1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:03,359 Speaker 1: There's like some reunion con that the Lower Rings cast 2 00:00:03,520 --> 00:00:05,759 was doing. And I'm sure if you've seen the clip 3 00:00:05,759 --> 00:00:07,360 I put in the discord, but e mchel and they 4 00:00:07,360 --> 00:00:10,039 ask him about Golm and he stands like, well, and 5 00:00:10,039 --> 00:00:12,320 I only tell you about three things. And he's like, well, 6 00:00:12,919 --> 00:00:15,599 Andy Circus is directing it, and it has a charen 7 00:00:15,679 --> 00:00:18,879 named Ganoff and I had a character named Frodo. And 8 00:00:19,160 --> 00:00:22,760 Elijah Wood is there while he's talking. Elijah Wood does 9 00:00:22,879 --> 00:00:24,960 not look this off at all, but he's definitely under 10 00:00:25,320 --> 00:00:27,679 He no, not as a thunder, He just definitely had a 11 00:00:27,719 --> 00:00:29,920 face like I don't think you can be saying this, 12 00:00:30,039 --> 00:00:32,880 whether they meant to be a surprise or whether it's way. 13 00:00:32,920 --> 00:00:33,640 Speaker 2: What are they gonna do? 14 00:00:33,719 --> 00:00:33,880 Speaker 1: Though? 15 00:00:33,920 --> 00:00:36,679 Speaker 2: What are they gonna do to him? Like, what's the 16 00:00:36,719 --> 00:00:38,880 worst they could do? Is he sign a contract saying 17 00:00:38,920 --> 00:00:42,920 a non disclosure agreement the men or lives a long time. 18 00:00:43,079 --> 00:00:45,000 But I mean, it's not like they can do much 19 00:00:45,039 --> 00:00:45,920 to this poor guy. 20 00:00:46,240 --> 00:00:48,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, or no, I'm looking at from Elijah Wood's perspective 21 00:00:49,240 --> 00:00:51,399 that he's not signed on anything yet and would kind 22 00:00:51,399 --> 00:00:54,520 of maybe like to like sometimes feel negotiate, right, So 23 00:00:54,640 --> 00:00:56,479 another actor just be like, oh, yeah, he's in there. 24 00:00:56,880 --> 00:01:00,359 And then I don't think he know. I think Ian's 25 00:01:00,399 --> 00:01:02,719 older and he was just talking having fun, but like 26 00:01:02,759 --> 00:01:06,840 it is no, I think you know, you talk about 27 00:01:06,840 --> 00:01:09,920 like it just kind of puts that that out there. 28 00:01:09,959 --> 00:01:13,680 So so we have this last year. I'm pretty sure 29 00:01:13,799 --> 00:01:15,719 didn't we talk about like Ian mckill and like, let 30 00:01:15,760 --> 00:01:17,959 it slip that Viga Morrison was come back? Right? Did 31 00:01:18,000 --> 00:01:21,280 he say something like that he does something he spoiled, 32 00:01:21,280 --> 00:01:23,680 that he's in the movie, that Vigo's in the movie, 33 00:01:23,959 --> 00:01:27,400 and Woods in the movie. I've said this before, I'll 34 00:01:27,400 --> 00:01:31,159 say this again. I think I think this is a 35 00:01:33,000 --> 00:01:37,200 I won't say rest before disaster, but I just don't know. 36 00:01:38,920 --> 00:01:44,359 I think there's more downside than upside. And it's tough 37 00:01:44,359 --> 00:01:46,239 because I get it. It can make money, people will 38 00:01:46,239 --> 00:01:49,640 be there. I just don't know what we can't accomplish 39 00:01:49,760 --> 00:01:53,200 with this movie still. And I even thought that one 40 00:01:53,280 --> 00:01:55,480 was just about the Hunt for Gollum, but now when 41 00:01:55,480 --> 00:01:57,280 it's like, oh, we're getting the whole gang back together, 42 00:01:57,959 --> 00:02:01,560 so we know we're getting some bad fucking dge CGI 43 00:02:01,760 --> 00:02:03,719 coming up. Hopefully it's not bad. Hopefully they make it 44 00:02:03,799 --> 00:02:05,480 do very well and do like some of the like 45 00:02:05,560 --> 00:02:08,400 Mando or Boba Fete Luke. You know they get that guy, 46 00:02:08,479 --> 00:02:14,680 like hopefully Vigo and especially Elijah, Elijah playing like Froto 47 00:02:14,759 --> 00:02:17,800 from twenty years ago. Come on now, Like I just 48 00:02:18,800 --> 00:02:25,759 it's just I I know there, this is based off 49 00:02:25,800 --> 00:02:28,800 some chapters. What I'm gonna say is probably sacrilege, but 50 00:02:28,960 --> 00:02:31,520 I'm in this mood. I said this like last month. 51 00:02:31,560 --> 00:02:33,319 I think you'll push back me. I don't care if 52 00:02:33,319 --> 00:02:35,759 people can keep pushing back. I said at this point, 53 00:02:35,919 --> 00:02:37,840 if Star Wars in the next couple of years doesn't 54 00:02:37,840 --> 00:02:40,919 figure it out, I'm completely fine if they say, hey, 55 00:02:41,319 --> 00:02:44,400 we're just gonna remake it. We're gonna start over. Hang on, 56 00:02:44,479 --> 00:02:47,159 We're gonna start over, and we can go different routes. 57 00:02:47,159 --> 00:02:49,960 And know why, Taylor the Canada you like you're sixty 58 00:02:50,039 --> 00:02:52,479 six your Darth plagas. They doesn't have to get affected. 59 00:02:52,560 --> 00:02:55,120 Nothing's affected because that stays in a nice bubble. And 60 00:02:55,159 --> 00:02:57,879 you can still do animation. You can still do comics 61 00:02:57,919 --> 00:03:00,680 in the original Star Wars timeline. But we're gonna get 62 00:03:00,680 --> 00:03:02,400 to a point where if people reject stuff, it's like 63 00:03:02,840 --> 00:03:05,039 people just want to see the sky Walker's and I 64 00:03:05,039 --> 00:03:07,599 guess maybe just bring Ray back, right, I'm saying if 65 00:03:07,599 --> 00:03:10,080 that's like, if they fail, I would not be opposed 66 00:03:10,120 --> 00:03:13,400 because I have episodes one to nine. They're not going 67 00:03:13,400 --> 00:03:16,159 anywhere I have, and or like all that doesn't go anywhere, 68 00:03:16,199 --> 00:03:19,400 it's still it's the same thing. You like Michael Kean's Batman, 69 00:03:19,479 --> 00:03:21,639 then go anywhere when they reboot it in Christian Bale, 70 00:03:22,000 --> 00:03:23,120 his story is still there. 71 00:03:25,280 --> 00:03:27,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's true, I got I just I see it 72 00:03:28,000 --> 00:03:31,120 as very different. Star Wars is different in how DC 73 00:03:31,319 --> 00:03:33,039 does their their thing and whatnot. 74 00:03:33,759 --> 00:03:37,159 Speaker 1: Yeah, but like Harry Potter is doing it, I'm just 75 00:03:37,199 --> 00:03:40,759 telling you to buckle up. I'm telling like, we're also 76 00:03:40,879 --> 00:03:43,240 not that long way and here's my thing, and this 77 00:03:43,280 --> 00:03:45,199 is what I'm pitching. I'm not pitching and just remake 78 00:03:45,240 --> 00:03:46,639 one of the rings. I'm pitching some of that people 79 00:03:46,719 --> 00:03:49,120 might not even like more. And I wonder if Kirkland, 80 00:03:49,120 --> 00:03:51,439 if he's hearing this, if he's gonna get hot about it. 81 00:03:52,080 --> 00:03:54,919 I would not. I would rather instead of this hunt 82 00:03:54,919 --> 00:03:57,360 for Golm thing, I would rather them say, you know what, 83 00:03:58,759 --> 00:04:01,000 people will be so mad. I think we found out 84 00:04:01,000 --> 00:04:03,479 a story and we're gonna do a sequel to return 85 00:04:03,520 --> 00:04:06,120 the King. I would rather than do that, because at 86 00:04:06,199 --> 00:04:11,680 least that would be crazy. What even do though anything anything? 87 00:04:11,759 --> 00:04:15,599 You know why, because it's free, it's free money. It's 88 00:04:15,639 --> 00:04:17,399 all on the board. You can do whatever you want. 89 00:04:17,439 --> 00:04:20,519 You don't gotta pay an extra person to go cgi whatever. 90 00:04:21,199 --> 00:04:23,480 And kirkle get back me up. And I don't think 91 00:04:23,519 --> 00:04:25,480 he got far, but token remember he was writing a 92 00:04:25,519 --> 00:04:28,360 sequel to Lord of the Rings and he just never completed, 93 00:04:28,439 --> 00:04:30,399 whether he chose not to or ran a time, but 94 00:04:30,439 --> 00:04:32,839 you can look up he was writing one originally, so 95 00:04:32,879 --> 00:04:35,240 even himself, so you could even fucking bullshit a little 96 00:04:35,240 --> 00:04:37,000 bit and be like, oh we got you know, so 97 00:04:37,120 --> 00:04:39,079 they could like buy the rights to that work. Oh 98 00:04:39,120 --> 00:04:41,639 we've taken some of the because remember what the Star 99 00:04:41,639 --> 00:04:44,120 Wars trilogy did, the sequel trilogy where they bought the 100 00:04:44,120 --> 00:04:46,639 scripts from George, like, oh yeah, we're gonna use some 101 00:04:46,680 --> 00:04:49,040 of those ideas, and they did. Luke being a hermit 102 00:04:49,439 --> 00:04:53,040 was George's idea. Ray didn't have. I can't remember what 103 00:04:53,079 --> 00:04:56,079 her name was, but the character of Ray was in 104 00:04:56,199 --> 00:04:58,920 George's script is like the main protagonist. It was so 105 00:04:59,000 --> 00:05:02,319 for everyone's like, oh fucking Disney that made this world female. 106 00:05:02,360 --> 00:05:05,920 It was like no, no, no, George made Ray the main character. 107 00:05:06,000 --> 00:05:07,959 His plan was, and Luke was gonna be a hermit 108 00:05:08,040 --> 00:05:10,600 there too, so they could do that. Oh, we bought 109 00:05:10,800 --> 00:05:13,199 the ideas from token that he had wrote, like, got 110 00:05:13,560 --> 00:05:15,399 talked to some We got those ideas and we're gonna 111 00:05:15,439 --> 00:05:18,560 expand upon those. I would be much more interested now. 112 00:05:18,600 --> 00:05:21,600 Granted that is way bigger room for her because the 113 00:05:21,639 --> 00:05:23,519 prequel it sucks. You just right off and go, oh, 114 00:05:23,519 --> 00:05:26,519 whatever that's happened before, We still got those visuals. A 115 00:05:26,560 --> 00:05:29,439 sequel sucking that could be very dangerous. But it's just 116 00:05:29,439 --> 00:05:33,319 for me. It's like I have zero interest in what 117 00:05:33,360 --> 00:05:35,079 they're gonna do with the Hunt of Gall and then 118 00:05:35,120 --> 00:05:38,959 bringing back Elijah Wood and Vigo. It's like, I just 119 00:05:39,040 --> 00:05:42,279 don't Again, it just feels like a pure money grab. 120 00:05:42,319 --> 00:05:44,439 And that's why it's everything in Hollywood, of course is 121 00:05:44,439 --> 00:05:46,879 for money, but there is always to me a perfect 122 00:05:46,920 --> 00:05:49,720 balance of for money and the passion. This just feels 123 00:05:49,720 --> 00:05:52,240 like a full on let's get all these actors back 124 00:05:52,319 --> 00:05:54,600 so they can be in the fucking trailer and people 125 00:05:54,639 --> 00:05:57,240 are gonna come pay to see their money. But yeah, 126 00:05:57,279 --> 00:06:00,120 that's would say Taylor. If you had a door and 127 00:06:00,160 --> 00:06:01,480 you could only walk through one. It was a get 128 00:06:01,480 --> 00:06:04,959 the Hunt for Gollum or to get the fourth floor 129 00:06:05,000 --> 00:06:06,199 of the Rings. What would you do? 130 00:06:08,680 --> 00:06:10,680 Speaker 2: I take the Hunt for Gollum over the fourth. 131 00:06:10,399 --> 00:06:15,839 Speaker 1: Floor of the Rings prequel apologist, I can't. 132 00:06:16,079 --> 00:06:21,079 Speaker 2: I I don't know what story they would do first 133 00:06:21,079 --> 00:06:24,519 sequel to return to the King and at this point two. 134 00:06:24,399 --> 00:06:26,240 Speaker 1: And a half hours just looking for Gollum. 135 00:06:26,839 --> 00:06:30,040 Speaker 2: I think with Gollum, you got the nas ghoul in there, 136 00:06:30,160 --> 00:06:32,839 you got like riding on their horseback, and you got 137 00:06:32,839 --> 00:06:36,920 some really cool ship where Saramond hasn't turned yet, Like 138 00:06:36,959 --> 00:06:38,839 you got some really neat things. 139 00:06:39,000 --> 00:06:43,240 Speaker 1: You know, we don't Christopher Lee is dead. Oh okay. 140 00:06:43,480 --> 00:06:45,040 If we're going to. 141 00:06:45,040 --> 00:06:47,160 Speaker 2: A concert where the Chris really is going to appear 142 00:06:47,160 --> 00:06:49,279 and talk to us, I'm sure they into a movie 143 00:06:49,399 --> 00:06:50,000 that's different. 144 00:06:50,040 --> 00:06:52,480 Speaker 1: We're seeing Lord of Rings in concerts de Denver. They 145 00:06:52,920 --> 00:06:55,639 that's he recorded that video and they have him. He 146 00:06:55,680 --> 00:06:57,480 did not record scenes for the Hunt of Gollum. 147 00:06:59,319 --> 00:07:01,399 Speaker 2: No, but I've been sure they could sneak him in 148 00:07:01,439 --> 00:07:02,199 there somehow. 149 00:07:02,560 --> 00:07:03,639 Speaker 1: Oh my god. 150 00:07:05,199 --> 00:07:08,360 Speaker 2: But I just think that what I between the two, 151 00:07:08,519 --> 00:07:10,040 I would take Hunt for Gollum. 152 00:07:10,120 --> 00:07:12,680 Speaker 1: But if I had my pick of the litter. 153 00:07:12,759 --> 00:07:17,439 Speaker 2: I'd probably take, like, give me the first the first 154 00:07:17,639 --> 00:07:20,079 five minutes that intro fights in the Middle Earth that 155 00:07:20,120 --> 00:07:22,879 takes place in Rings of Power that they just skimped over. 156 00:07:23,360 --> 00:07:24,120 That's what I want. 157 00:07:24,160 --> 00:07:25,879 Speaker 1: I want, Yeah, but they can't do that to be 158 00:07:25,959 --> 00:07:28,439 in here, I want all that. They can't do any 159 00:07:28,439 --> 00:07:30,720 of that going on. They don't have the rights of that. 160 00:07:30,879 --> 00:07:31,680 Speaker 3: They can't do anything. 161 00:07:32,240 --> 00:07:33,839 Speaker 2: Jason bullshit for thirteen. 162 00:07:35,040 --> 00:07:37,600 Speaker 1: Well blame token and it is a state. I'm just saying, 163 00:07:37,920 --> 00:07:40,399 you're gonna watch the Hunt for Golm in this multiverse like, 164 00:07:40,399 --> 00:07:42,680 oh cool, they caught gold, and then I'd be walking 165 00:07:42,680 --> 00:07:44,800 in the theater and be like, man, you wouldn't you 166 00:07:44,800 --> 00:07:47,519 wouldn't believe what they did. They did this, they did this, 167 00:07:47,600 --> 00:07:49,879 and you'd be like, oh, that sounds pretty cool. You'd 168 00:07:49,920 --> 00:07:53,279 be getting new actors, you'd be getting more fucking Orlando 169 00:07:53,399 --> 00:07:55,279 Bloom back. You get like because you get all that, 170 00:07:55,399 --> 00:07:57,240 that's a good thing with this movie. You can get 171 00:07:57,279 --> 00:07:59,600 everyone back because they could just be playing their age self, 172 00:08:00,040 --> 00:08:01,720 don't got to do anything in his bullshit. You can 173 00:08:01,720 --> 00:08:04,920 get you can get the whole fellowship back, Taylor, every 174 00:08:04,959 --> 00:08:07,199 single one of them for a New Adventure we're in 175 00:08:07,279 --> 00:08:09,480 danger again and the Fellowship of the Ring has to 176 00:08:09,519 --> 00:08:10,000 come back. 177 00:08:10,399 --> 00:08:16,399 Speaker 2: I'm pretty sure, yeahs and goes to the just. 178 00:08:16,360 --> 00:08:19,519 Speaker 1: As sure as a rock is covered in chills already. 179 00:08:22,040 --> 00:08:24,240 Speaker 2: The lands of the Undying Lands, I don't think so, 180 00:08:24,720 --> 00:08:26,920 Yeah he does. I was reading about it. 181 00:08:26,600 --> 00:08:30,279 Speaker 1: Does like this does, and I know Sam wise does 182 00:08:30,600 --> 00:08:32,240 because he was like he carried the Ring for a 183 00:08:32,240 --> 00:08:32,679 little bit. 184 00:08:33,799 --> 00:08:36,360 Speaker 2: Uh why is Gimley allowed to go to the Undying Lands. 185 00:08:36,360 --> 00:08:39,120 I can't understand Frodo and Sam being allowed. Yeah, why 186 00:08:39,200 --> 00:08:43,840 was Gimbley quarter My understanding Aman was meant for the 187 00:08:43,879 --> 00:08:47,600 Immortal the exceptions taking place after the war the Ring. Uh, 188 00:08:49,080 --> 00:08:52,279 let's see, Gimley was a door very much now friend. 189 00:08:53,480 --> 00:08:57,279 Speaker 1: Because a friend. So it's just saying he did go. 190 00:08:59,279 --> 00:09:01,279 Speaker 2: Yes, he did go to the Dying Lands. 191 00:09:01,440 --> 00:09:02,879 Speaker 1: I've not read in well. My plan is to do 192 00:09:02,919 --> 00:09:06,159 the audiobook hopefully this year, maybe next year, depending But yeah, 193 00:09:06,200 --> 00:09:07,960 I've not read Return the Can quite a while, so 194 00:09:08,000 --> 00:09:10,480 I forgot that. Because, yeah, I know Sam goes after 195 00:09:10,600 --> 00:09:14,759 Rosie dies, he pimps off, but it is the kids 196 00:09:15,159 --> 00:09:17,720 he does. After Rosie dies. He's like, yeah, I'm gonna 197 00:09:17,759 --> 00:09:19,519 go see old kids. 198 00:09:19,519 --> 00:09:21,679 Speaker 2: Are you gonna take one of those boats over there. 199 00:09:21,840 --> 00:09:24,240 Speaker 1: No, Like, I love you guys, but like, what's it? Like, 200 00:09:25,080 --> 00:09:27,320 I get it. They're probably like, oh yeah, they're all 201 00:09:27,320 --> 00:09:30,120 set and whatnot. But it's like I soonern have grandkids, 202 00:09:30,200 --> 00:09:33,919 Like Frodo chose to leave like that. That's definitely some 203 00:09:34,159 --> 00:09:36,679 like something's going on with Sam and Frodo there if 204 00:09:36,679 --> 00:09:38,840 he's leaving his kids to go be a fro Do Like, 205 00:09:38,919 --> 00:09:41,200 I don't know, so. 206 00:09:40,360 --> 00:09:43,639 Speaker 2: So you're playing off the whole idea that, Okay, Frodo's 207 00:09:43,639 --> 00:09:46,440 talking to Sam. Frodo finished his book and Sam's walking 208 00:09:46,440 --> 00:09:48,679 in there and photos like his room for a little 209 00:09:48,720 --> 00:09:50,399 more and then he hands the book off to Sam 210 00:09:50,399 --> 00:09:53,159 and then he leaves. So that's the chapter you want. 211 00:09:53,200 --> 00:09:58,799 You want that Sam's Sam stories. No, he's not saying, 212 00:09:58,840 --> 00:10:01,200 you're not getting Frodo and Gandalf coming back from the 213 00:10:01,240 --> 00:10:01,879 u Dying Lands. 214 00:10:01,919 --> 00:10:02,320 Speaker 1: Yeah you do. 215 00:10:03,399 --> 00:10:06,039 Speaker 2: Oh, you don't come back from the Undying Lands though, 216 00:10:06,120 --> 00:10:07,679 as you're there, it's a one way trip. 217 00:10:08,039 --> 00:10:09,759 Speaker 1: Nobody's ever gone. 218 00:10:10,360 --> 00:10:12,759 Speaker 2: Why why the heck would they bring Froto back from 219 00:10:12,759 --> 00:10:14,799 the Undying Lands. That's why they're doing the prequel. 220 00:10:14,919 --> 00:10:17,320 Speaker 1: Guess what Taylor talk to Warner Brothers and then they 221 00:10:17,320 --> 00:10:19,320 can pay me and I'll write you that fucking script. 222 00:10:19,360 --> 00:10:22,000 But until then, we're not gonna do it tonight. You 223 00:10:22,039 --> 00:10:26,519 could say, write me get shat Gypt to say, oh, 224 00:10:26,519 --> 00:10:29,080 write me a sequel or the Rings, and you'd probably 225 00:10:29,120 --> 00:10:31,919 be somewhat commenced, and then let me finish that off. 226 00:10:32,000 --> 00:10:35,440 Like there's again. Tolkien was writing it. So if the 227 00:10:35,480 --> 00:10:37,960 guy he didn't write it, But if the guy who 228 00:10:37,960 --> 00:10:40,279 created all this shit at one point in his head thought, oh, 229 00:10:40,320 --> 00:10:42,720 I could do a sequel to this, he could let me. 230 00:10:42,840 --> 00:10:44,559 Let me see if there's anything on here. Let's see 231 00:10:44,639 --> 00:10:47,440 Lord of the Rings. 232 00:10:48,200 --> 00:10:54,000 Speaker 3: Sequel. That's not gonna help me. Let's see why. Oh 233 00:10:54,039 --> 00:10:57,519 it's a YouTube video formautes why'd your token bandoned his? 234 00:10:57,799 --> 00:11:00,720 Let's see why air. 235 00:11:01,679 --> 00:11:06,360 Speaker 2: Oh, let's see. Last time I read Return of the King, 236 00:11:07,080 --> 00:11:08,720 it was a long time ago. I didn't finish it. 237 00:11:08,720 --> 00:11:10,559 I would have been in elementary school, and I took 238 00:11:10,600 --> 00:11:12,600 it out of the our library because it was in 239 00:11:12,639 --> 00:11:15,919 our library. Elementary school, for some reason, did not finish it. 240 00:11:17,840 --> 00:11:20,000 I remember when The Hobbit was just one book, and 241 00:11:20,000 --> 00:11:22,039 now you can get it, I think in three books 242 00:11:22,120 --> 00:11:24,440 now or something like that. Because of the movies, so 243 00:11:24,480 --> 00:11:25,279 that's kind of neat. 244 00:11:26,320 --> 00:11:27,039 Speaker 1: Is that neat? 245 00:11:27,399 --> 00:11:30,519 Speaker 2: Not really just keep it to one book. It's one story. 246 00:11:30,519 --> 00:11:34,039 It's like Fantastic Beasts, you know, being broken off into 247 00:11:34,039 --> 00:11:34,799 all these movies. 248 00:11:35,840 --> 00:11:39,000 Speaker 3: It's hard to. 249 00:11:37,679 --> 00:11:40,399 Speaker 2: God, Zella's back in theaters now. I saw it playing 250 00:11:40,399 --> 00:11:42,559 at our local cinemas, which is pretty cool. 251 00:11:43,039 --> 00:11:47,159 Speaker 1: Okay, look at that. So look, this already sounds like 252 00:11:47,200 --> 00:11:50,120 a chat GBT title. You know what he called the 253 00:11:50,120 --> 00:11:54,960 title of the sequel was what the New Shadow. The 254 00:11:55,039 --> 00:11:58,639 New Shadow was an incomplete sequel Floor Rings. Jared Token 255 00:11:58,720 --> 00:12:02,039 quickly abandoned, but have come back to. It's set during 256 00:12:02,080 --> 00:12:06,240 the reign of Aragon's Sun all over that. Token originally 257 00:12:06,240 --> 00:12:09,120 set the story approximately one hundred and five years after 258 00:12:09,559 --> 00:12:14,039 the fall of Baradu, but decided in nineteen seventy seven 259 00:12:14,679 --> 00:12:18,879 to set the story in the fourth age the story resolves. Okay, 260 00:12:18,960 --> 00:12:22,320 the story revolves around a cult known as Dark Tree, 261 00:12:22,399 --> 00:12:28,440 two characters named Salein and Borlas. Let's see, he says, 262 00:12:28,440 --> 00:12:30,440 I did begin a story place about a hundred years 263 00:12:30,440 --> 00:12:33,080 ago after the downfall, but proved both sinister and depressing. 264 00:12:33,320 --> 00:12:35,080 See that's the only reason you did, right, It's too 265 00:12:35,159 --> 00:12:38,080 dark since we are dealing with men, it is nevible 266 00:12:38,080 --> 00:12:40,279 that we should be concerned with the most regrettable feature 267 00:12:40,320 --> 00:12:47,440 of their nature, their quick sadie with good. Okay, So 268 00:12:47,480 --> 00:12:50,559 that the people of gond Or, in times of peace, justice, prosperity, 269 00:12:50,720 --> 00:12:55,960 would become disconnected, disconnected and restless, while the Dynas descended 270 00:12:56,000 --> 00:12:59,639 from Aragon would become kings and governors like Denithor or 271 00:12:59,679 --> 00:13:03,919 word oh Man. I found that even so early there 272 00:13:04,039 --> 00:13:07,720 was an outcrop of revolutionary plots about a center secret 273 00:13:07,720 --> 00:13:15,919 of Satana, satan satanistic thank you for religion. Well, Gondorian boys. 274 00:13:15,960 --> 00:13:19,519 We're playing Gondorian boys. And as he said, we're playing 275 00:13:19,679 --> 00:13:21,519 this is from a letter that he wrote to somebody. 276 00:13:21,679 --> 00:13:24,720 We're playing to being Orcs and going around doing damage. 277 00:13:24,759 --> 00:13:27,159 I could have written a thriller about the plot and 278 00:13:27,200 --> 00:13:29,480 discovery and Overthorpe, but it would have taken just that 279 00:13:29,639 --> 00:13:35,320 not worth doing, uh to so one point he had 280 00:13:35,399 --> 00:13:37,159 after everyone's death. So there's a lot of stuff. I 281 00:13:37,159 --> 00:13:39,840 wouldn't do that. But I'm just saying, there's a room 282 00:13:39,879 --> 00:13:42,399 out there, Taylor, he could write it, but I digress. 283 00:13:43,679 --> 00:13:45,639 What I couldn't write is so this is this is 284 00:13:45,679 --> 00:13:47,519 a very I just put this in here just in 285 00:13:47,559 --> 00:13:49,240 case it blows up against more. But this is just 286 00:13:49,279 --> 00:13:51,840 from a one source and it came out and it's 287 00:13:52,200 --> 00:13:54,639 definitely you know, like a it's not even like a 288 00:13:54,639 --> 00:13:58,120 scoop because this could be something anyway. So he uh, 289 00:13:58,600 --> 00:14:00,720 I don't know what the movie is. But as zoy 290 00:14:00,759 --> 00:14:03,360 Krautz was doing press for a movie, and I guess 291 00:14:04,039 --> 00:14:06,320 one of the press you know, was there asking questions 292 00:14:06,679 --> 00:14:08,440 and they were told and that's why it could be 293 00:14:08,480 --> 00:14:12,240 complete bullshit. I'm just asking you they were told that 294 00:14:13,039 --> 00:14:16,639 to not ask any questions about The Batman Too, because 295 00:14:16,639 --> 00:14:19,080 she's not in The Batman two. And I mean bullshit, 296 00:14:19,159 --> 00:14:21,320 not saying this person is lying. I'm saying it could 297 00:14:21,360 --> 00:14:23,759 just be them saying like, hey, don't say you're in 298 00:14:23,799 --> 00:14:25,879 the movie until we announce it. It could be same 299 00:14:25,919 --> 00:14:28,679 thing as lives would that, Hey, they haven't agreed on 300 00:14:28,759 --> 00:14:31,480 money yet, so you can't say you're in. But let's 301 00:14:31,519 --> 00:14:33,759 say this is true. Let's just for the sake of 302 00:14:33,799 --> 00:14:36,679 its say, hey, zoy Krautz is not in The Batman too. 303 00:14:36,919 --> 00:14:39,639 You said at the beginning we're tuming about this that 304 00:14:39,639 --> 00:14:41,679 that would surprise you, right like, because you feel like 305 00:14:41,720 --> 00:14:44,879 that's I felt like that's a given to be her 306 00:14:44,919 --> 00:14:46,919 to be in there. So let's say we do eventually 307 00:14:46,919 --> 00:14:48,919 here that is official non here? What do you think? 308 00:14:49,960 --> 00:14:52,480 Speaker 2: I I mean, it's it's definitely a surprise to me. 309 00:14:52,679 --> 00:14:54,360 They alluded to her returning at the end of the 310 00:14:54,360 --> 00:14:59,480 Penguin and that's alluding to, you know, obviously the Batman 311 00:14:59,559 --> 00:15:02,000 Part two with the bat symbol going up in the sky. 312 00:15:02,200 --> 00:15:06,320 So it makes me wonder what their plan is. You 313 00:15:06,879 --> 00:15:09,360 we know they're doing a part three, right, that's the goal. 314 00:15:11,639 --> 00:15:13,960 Speaker 1: Well, that's the goal. I don't know if that's happening. 315 00:15:14,200 --> 00:15:14,759 That's the goal. 316 00:15:15,000 --> 00:15:18,080 Speaker 2: There's there's clearly there's two ways about this. There's clearly 317 00:15:18,159 --> 00:15:20,200 let's let's say they are. The goal is. Yeah, they're 318 00:15:20,200 --> 00:15:21,679 going to do the part three and that's it. It's 319 00:15:21,720 --> 00:15:24,120 going to be a trilogy. And then you're done because 320 00:15:24,200 --> 00:15:27,360 James Gunn's doing his things, so you have very limited 321 00:15:27,879 --> 00:15:31,000 storytelling room here. So you're keeping her at bay and 322 00:15:31,000 --> 00:15:32,799 then going to bring her back in part three for 323 00:15:32,840 --> 00:15:35,919 some reason. Maybe there's that or the more likely thing, 324 00:15:35,960 --> 00:15:39,000 I think that maybe she's just not going to play 325 00:15:39,000 --> 00:15:42,279 a part with Batman anymore, and you know she does, 326 00:15:42,360 --> 00:15:44,360 it'll be something very loose, but they're just going to 327 00:15:44,440 --> 00:15:46,799 keep her, bring her back in for like Penguins season 328 00:15:46,799 --> 00:15:48,480 two or something like that, and then that's it and 329 00:15:48,519 --> 00:15:51,879 they're gonna move along because again three movies. Maybe they 330 00:15:52,000 --> 00:15:54,200 just want to really highlight getting other characters in there. 331 00:15:54,200 --> 00:15:56,039 Maybe they want to do a robin or something, if 332 00:15:56,080 --> 00:15:57,960 they do a time jump. I don't know. I think 333 00:15:57,960 --> 00:16:00,399 that they if you keep Catwoman in there, and I'm 334 00:16:00,440 --> 00:16:03,320 okay with that, then you can maybe other people will 335 00:16:03,360 --> 00:16:04,840 just be overwhelmed if you have too many of their 336 00:16:04,879 --> 00:16:07,840 characters popping in there. I don't know. I think it's 337 00:16:07,840 --> 00:16:10,279 a sandbox and they should pull from it. But maybe 338 00:16:10,279 --> 00:16:13,240 they're concerned about pulling too much considering it's a very 339 00:16:13,360 --> 00:16:16,759 limited window. Of course, they don't have that green lit 340 00:16:16,799 --> 00:16:19,000 for number three yet, so they're just working with you. 341 00:16:19,360 --> 00:16:21,279 Let this just look at this like, we only have 342 00:16:21,799 --> 00:16:24,279 part two right now to work with, so let's just 343 00:16:24,399 --> 00:16:27,440 maybe keep it a little bit more grounded and focus 344 00:16:27,480 --> 00:16:29,519 on some other things that we want to tackle, whereas 345 00:16:29,639 --> 00:16:32,240 we already have Zoe Kravitz's character focused on in the 346 00:16:32,240 --> 00:16:34,559 first part. Let's move along. 347 00:16:35,399 --> 00:16:38,399 Speaker 1: Before I ask, because I'm gonna go more into it, 348 00:16:38,440 --> 00:16:40,000 not like a ramp. But because we're supposed to do 349 00:16:40,000 --> 00:16:42,559 this on newscasts, we didn't. Things changed, and Maddie asks, 350 00:16:42,879 --> 00:16:46,519 just dealing myself on gvdam Oh, Taylor Kirkle, and we'll 351 00:16:46,519 --> 00:16:49,240 talk about just things happen. Do you What are your 352 00:16:49,279 --> 00:16:52,279 thoughts on if Robin's in the Batman Part two? 353 00:16:53,639 --> 00:16:54,559 Speaker 2: What are my thoughts? 354 00:16:55,360 --> 00:16:56,960 Speaker 1: Do you like that? Especially? 355 00:16:57,240 --> 00:16:58,519 Speaker 2: I'd like to see more Robin? 356 00:16:58,960 --> 00:17:00,720 Speaker 1: Yeah? And you still like that the sense of like, 357 00:17:00,919 --> 00:17:04,599 remember if the James guns Batman's happening, that's about Batman 358 00:17:04,680 --> 00:17:06,759 and Robin. Granted that's his son, but it's still like 359 00:17:06,920 --> 00:17:08,440 Batman and Robin's story as well. 360 00:17:09,279 --> 00:17:11,240 Speaker 2: Yep, and I'd be down for it. I feel like, 361 00:17:11,279 --> 00:17:13,359 when was the last time about Robin? When was the 362 00:17:13,400 --> 00:17:17,599 last time Dark Knight Rises, Dark Knight Rising? Even then, Robin, 363 00:17:17,839 --> 00:17:20,720 you should use your real name. It was only a 364 00:17:20,759 --> 00:17:23,359 half Robin. Yeah, so yeah, you can see some more. 365 00:17:23,400 --> 00:17:25,079 I'm down to see some more Robin here. 366 00:17:25,160 --> 00:17:28,000 Speaker 1: I mean, really, two Batman movies back to back, we 367 00:17:28,000 --> 00:17:29,680 haven't gone and years down to get them. 368 00:17:29,880 --> 00:17:33,559 Speaker 2: I'm down. I'ven't listened to the theme for Batman forever lately, 369 00:17:34,119 --> 00:17:37,400 so oh yeah, that's the. 370 00:17:37,319 --> 00:17:40,599 Speaker 1: Same guy that did the Interview with the Vampire. It's crazy. 371 00:17:40,599 --> 00:17:43,160 There's tons of tracks, not the show but the movie. 372 00:17:43,440 --> 00:17:46,559 If you listen to the movie soundtrack for Interview with 373 00:17:46,599 --> 00:17:49,359 the Vampire and Batman Forever, because they're only your part, 374 00:17:49,759 --> 00:17:53,720 there's some parts that are identical in there. Often do that. 375 00:17:53,720 --> 00:17:56,880 That's crazy. You should there it's identical. But I really 376 00:17:56,920 --> 00:17:59,880 like his style. But yeah, I've talked about that before. 377 00:18:00,319 --> 00:18:02,960 I don't think that's a good idea if there's two 378 00:18:03,039 --> 00:18:05,720 Batman because to me, I've said this before, if you're 379 00:18:05,720 --> 00:18:07,960 gonna actually do two Batman's at the same time, you 380 00:18:08,000 --> 00:18:09,839 want them to be as different as possible. I think 381 00:18:09,880 --> 00:18:12,720 if both movies have a Robin that's not different as possible, 382 00:18:12,720 --> 00:18:15,160 that's very similar. And you brought up a good point, 383 00:18:15,160 --> 00:18:16,799 and that's where for me, let's say we'd live in 384 00:18:16,839 --> 00:18:19,279 a universe for all this is true, right, everything happens 385 00:18:19,279 --> 00:18:22,640 where Okay, Matt Reeves's Batman's gonna happen, and then we're 386 00:18:22,640 --> 00:18:26,680 gonna get brave and bold. For me, I'm getting my 387 00:18:26,759 --> 00:18:29,799 Robin Phil right there, even though I Dick grade Sin's 388 00:18:29,839 --> 00:18:31,440 my favorite. So I'd hope that's the Robin and the 389 00:18:31,480 --> 00:18:33,880 Baton Part two. But the way you pitch it, of 390 00:18:33,880 --> 00:18:36,279 which I agree of let's say get the baton part two. Okay, 391 00:18:36,319 --> 00:18:39,319 so you have Bruce's connection with Alfred you have to do. 392 00:18:39,480 --> 00:18:41,000 You have this connection with Gordon you have to do 393 00:18:41,440 --> 00:18:44,279 and you would have to have this connection with Seina 394 00:18:44,319 --> 00:18:46,160 to do. So if you do Robin, that's four and 395 00:18:46,240 --> 00:18:47,680 not saying you can't do that, but that's a lot 396 00:18:47,680 --> 00:18:50,119 of characters for Bruce to really interact, right that's not 397 00:18:50,160 --> 00:18:52,400 even count the villain, that's not counting side characters, and 398 00:18:52,400 --> 00:18:54,880 as time as Batman, that's a lot. So I could 399 00:18:54,960 --> 00:18:57,759 see if you're looking at dartboard of characters you have 400 00:18:57,839 --> 00:19:00,640 to cut. You can't cut Alfred. You're gonna came with 401 00:19:00,680 --> 00:19:02,200 it to me. You can't cut Alfred. He's, you know, 402 00:19:02,279 --> 00:19:04,440 a guy in the chair. You can't cut Gordon because 403 00:19:04,440 --> 00:19:06,279 he's a guy on the ground and he's gonna give 404 00:19:06,359 --> 00:19:08,759 the bat single. So like catwom would be the one 405 00:19:08,759 --> 00:19:11,039 to cut. But when you put it that way, then 406 00:19:11,079 --> 00:19:13,160 I would say I don't want Robin then right now, 407 00:19:13,200 --> 00:19:16,319 Like I again, I love Dick Grayson, I love Robin. 408 00:19:17,160 --> 00:19:19,960 Ellie's middle name is Grayson because of that very fact. 409 00:19:20,119 --> 00:19:22,240 But for me, it's just like it's a time and 410 00:19:22,279 --> 00:19:25,359 a place, And for me, I thought they, like you said, 411 00:19:25,400 --> 00:19:27,880 with Penguin, they you know, were really setting her up. 412 00:19:27,920 --> 00:19:29,519 I still think even the end of the Batman they're 413 00:19:29,519 --> 00:19:32,079 sitting up at this will happen again. The only way, 414 00:19:33,240 --> 00:19:34,839 and I'm not even happy with this. I guess the 415 00:19:34,880 --> 00:19:36,680 only way I would feel of it less of a 416 00:19:36,680 --> 00:19:38,720 blow is at the times then they'd be like, yeah, 417 00:19:38,720 --> 00:19:40,960 we'd like to do more, you know, the Batman stuff 418 00:19:40,960 --> 00:19:44,279 in HBO. If they say, hey, she's not in Batman too, 419 00:19:44,640 --> 00:19:47,079 but we are going to do a Catwoman showing HBO 420 00:19:47,160 --> 00:19:49,519 like Penguin, then I'd say, okay, you know what, that's 421 00:19:49,720 --> 00:19:51,920 I can work with that, because then, and also though 422 00:19:52,079 --> 00:19:55,480 it has to come with the idea of Batman three's happening, 423 00:19:55,519 --> 00:19:57,519 we're living a world where I don't think that's happening. 424 00:19:57,960 --> 00:20:00,400 I hope it does. But if we get to a 425 00:20:00,440 --> 00:20:04,079 situation where let's say there's no Catwoman show and they 426 00:20:04,079 --> 00:20:05,799 do Batman too, and it's great, but whatever they end 427 00:20:05,839 --> 00:20:08,119 it like same thing like Snyer could have ended, and 428 00:20:08,160 --> 00:20:11,000 there's a catwoman's just in the Batman, that feels very 429 00:20:11,000 --> 00:20:14,279 odd to me that feels like that's an unclosed loop 430 00:20:14,359 --> 00:20:16,359 right there with that what they said up and granted 431 00:20:16,720 --> 00:20:18,519 they didn't know that Gun was gonna take over and 432 00:20:18,559 --> 00:20:21,240 there's gonna be shared universal this stuff, right, but to me, 433 00:20:21,480 --> 00:20:24,440 that's where I would I think it's risky. So my 434 00:20:24,559 --> 00:20:27,039 hope is that they are just fucking around. They're just 435 00:20:27,079 --> 00:20:29,359 saying that to the press that hey, yeah, she's not 436 00:20:29,480 --> 00:20:32,119 in for whatever reason, because I think there could be 437 00:20:32,359 --> 00:20:36,000 even then, like for Slena to see Bruce adopting or 438 00:20:36,039 --> 00:20:38,640 even Batman adopting a kid. I think there's like some 439 00:20:39,480 --> 00:20:42,359 I don't know, there's tons of potential and the Colm 440 00:20:42,440 --> 00:20:44,880 ex animation of show like, there's tons of story there. 441 00:20:45,759 --> 00:20:48,400 But again, just the current state, I would rather than 442 00:20:48,440 --> 00:20:51,119 focus on the Bruce and Selena dynamic than a Bruce 443 00:20:51,160 --> 00:20:54,279 and Robin or Slash Dick one. So I hope this 444 00:20:54,359 --> 00:20:56,240 is not a true thing. But if she is, it's 445 00:20:57,039 --> 00:20:58,759 I don't know, because I don't see us getting a 446 00:20:58,759 --> 00:21:01,119 show anytime soon. I think it is very much like Superman. 447 00:21:01,160 --> 00:21:04,400 Where Superman came out, did I think well enough for 448 00:21:04,440 --> 00:21:06,279 them that they start going in production and talk about 449 00:21:06,279 --> 00:21:08,880 all these other projects. I think for us with the 450 00:21:08,920 --> 00:21:12,640 Batman three and shows on HBO. We're really not gonna 451 00:21:12,680 --> 00:21:16,680 know until that that sequel comes out, right, because I 452 00:21:16,720 --> 00:21:19,200 really hope. I know it sounds bad, it's petty, but whatever, 453 00:21:19,440 --> 00:21:21,759 call me petty. I hope when the Batman two comes 454 00:21:21,759 --> 00:21:24,440 out it does better than Superman. So then you can't 455 00:21:24,480 --> 00:21:26,640 say like, well, because if it does the same or less, 456 00:21:27,000 --> 00:21:29,480 I think it's over. I think unless they convince Matt 457 00:21:29,480 --> 00:21:32,200 Reeves to join DCU. But if it does more, I 458 00:21:32,240 --> 00:21:34,279 don't know how you tell your boss, how you tell 459 00:21:34,359 --> 00:21:37,240 shareholders like, yeah, the most profitable DC movie we have 460 00:21:37,359 --> 00:21:39,480 right now going, We're not going to do it again 461 00:21:39,480 --> 00:21:42,640 because it's not my you know, my shared universe or 462 00:21:42,640 --> 00:21:44,400 all my toys together, and I have nothing to do 463 00:21:44,440 --> 00:21:47,039 with it. I think, as like zaz Love other people, 464 00:21:47,079 --> 00:21:48,839 they'd look at you and be like, I don't know 465 00:21:48,839 --> 00:21:50,440 if you should be the head of DC Studios. It 466 00:21:50,519 --> 00:21:53,480 might suck, but like, just because at that point of 467 00:21:53,519 --> 00:21:55,839 it does two, you just uh fuck k. Just let 468 00:21:55,880 --> 00:21:57,359 them finish three and then tell them like, hey, I 469 00:21:57,359 --> 00:21:59,799 have for three though you're done, Like you said, trilogy, 470 00:22:00,160 --> 00:22:02,359 you're going to a trilogy. Let's move along, and I've 471 00:22:02,440 --> 00:22:04,359 because to me, it's like it's not like there's a 472 00:22:04,440 --> 00:22:07,200 lack of DC characters, Like obviously Matt Reeves took a 473 00:22:07,200 --> 00:22:09,720 long time to get the script done, but like like 474 00:22:09,799 --> 00:22:12,319 between One Woman and they're talking about doing the super Fan, 475 00:22:12,480 --> 00:22:14,440 like there's so many DC characters you can do in 476 00:22:14,480 --> 00:22:17,160 the meantime, Like Batman can join the Justice League at 477 00:22:17,160 --> 00:22:18,759 any point. It be a big deal. You don't have 478 00:22:18,839 --> 00:22:21,240 to have them there. So I hope this isn't true, 479 00:22:21,519 --> 00:22:23,319 and it's not true. I hope there's a show, but yeah, 480 00:22:23,319 --> 00:22:26,559 I hope that. Luckily, it does sound like The Batman 481 00:22:26,720 --> 00:22:28,799 is going into production spring, so the good thing is 482 00:22:29,119 --> 00:22:32,480 either late fall or early next year, we're gonna start 483 00:22:32,480 --> 00:22:34,680 getting casting and man, that's gonna be fun and we're 484 00:22:34,680 --> 00:22:37,640 gonna know if she's back or not. And uh, I hope, so, 485 00:22:37,880 --> 00:22:40,720 I really do. So if super mix sus if Batman 486 00:22:40,720 --> 00:22:43,000 two makes over eight hundred million, we're for sure getting 487 00:22:43,000 --> 00:22:46,519 part three would be financially irresponsible. Otherwise I still think 488 00:22:46,559 --> 00:22:49,559 seven hundred because I think because I think what Batman 489 00:22:49,720 --> 00:22:52,960 Part one, it's like it's like seven to seventy or something. 490 00:22:54,039 --> 00:22:56,839 That Man's box office I got, I got, I'm already 491 00:22:56,920 --> 00:23:01,160 I'm already being Yeah, seven hundred and seven seven millions. 492 00:23:02,960 --> 00:23:05,119 That's but that's not how you say it. It's seven 493 00:23:05,240 --> 00:23:10,160 hundred and seventy two million to But yeah, for me, 494 00:23:10,279 --> 00:23:12,920 I believe if it just beats Superman. In my opinion, 495 00:23:13,400 --> 00:23:15,039 where are you do you think it has to like 496 00:23:15,599 --> 00:23:18,519 just beat Superman? Hit what hit before? Or do like 497 00:23:18,519 --> 00:23:19,960 what Mike says, eight hundred million? Like, what do you 498 00:23:20,000 --> 00:23:23,279 think is the point of Batman three? Is guaranteed. 499 00:23:24,119 --> 00:23:24,839 Speaker 2: Guaranteed? 500 00:23:25,319 --> 00:23:28,319 Speaker 1: Okay, the closest to being guaranteed. Nothing is guaranteed, but 501 00:23:28,359 --> 00:23:31,079 let's say the closest if he's a betting man, like, hey, 502 00:23:31,079 --> 00:23:37,519 what number do you think we got to hit? Mm? 503 00:23:37,839 --> 00:23:40,160 Because if it beats Superman by one million, would you 504 00:23:40,200 --> 00:23:40,880 think that's enough? 505 00:23:41,359 --> 00:23:42,200 Speaker 2: I think that's enough. 506 00:23:42,319 --> 00:23:42,880 Speaker 1: I really do. 507 00:23:43,079 --> 00:23:45,680 Speaker 2: I think that answer that is a big statement. And 508 00:23:45,839 --> 00:23:49,519 James Gunn would be he'd be he'd be looking at that, 509 00:23:49,559 --> 00:23:51,759 he'd be inspecting that spreadsheet. 510 00:23:54,960 --> 00:23:57,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, so we will see. All right, let's take our 511 00:23:57,039 --> 00:23:59,079 final ad break and we're talking about a short film 512 00:23:59,200 --> 00:24:00,839 and some trail will be right back