Speaker 1: Welcome to the Big blueing Sider. Dick Gabriel with you
Speaker 1: on a Memorial Day Monday. Hope you're having a great
Speaker 1: weekend tonight it will be the best of the Big
Speaker 1: Blue Insider. But we're going to talk Kentucky baseball first
Speaker 1: in this opening sequence because the Wildcats got in. If
Speaker 1: you haven't heard yet, you probably have if you're a
Speaker 1: Kentucky baseball fan. But Kentucky basically slips in to the
Speaker 1: College Baseball Tournament. Although you might have thought the Wildcats
Speaker 1: would have been one of the last four in, but
Speaker 1: if you saw the selection show today, that's not the case.
Speaker 1: Strength of schedule and RPI came up big for the Wildcats.
Speaker 1: They played a tough schedule and not that this mattered
Speaker 1: to the committee. Maybe it did, but keep in mind
Speaker 1: that the Kentucky team that got to the College World
Speaker 1: Series last year, basically the entire starting elements moved on.
Speaker 1: Seven of the eight position regular position players moved on,
Speaker 1: the entire weekend rotation, the top two relievers. Nick Benngeone
Speaker 1: and his staff had to replace all of them. And
Speaker 1: the Wildcats had their ups and downs this year. As
Speaker 1: you know, they won twenty nine games. They led in
Speaker 1: twenty eight of the thirty one SEC games they played,
Speaker 1: including one SEC tournament game, and going into that last
Speaker 1: weekend at Vanderbilt. This is what's fascinating about what happened
Speaker 1: this year. That weekend turned college baseball, I won't say
Speaker 1: upside down, but had a profound effect on what happened
Speaker 1: with this tournament draw because Kentucky could have swept Wildcats
Speaker 1: took leads into the last Vandy at bat Commodore's got
Speaker 1: two walk off home runs in the first two games.
Speaker 1: Wildcats led three to nothing in game three and blew
Speaker 1: that lead, couldn't hang on down in Nashville. So Vandy sweeps.
Speaker 1: Vandy ends up the overall number one seed in this tournament.
Speaker 1: So imagine if Kentucky had finished up two or three
Speaker 1: of those wins, it clearly I think would have kept
Speaker 1: Vandy from being the overall number one seed. Think the
Speaker 1: doors would have gotten in. Of course, they've gone nineteen
Speaker 1: straight years now, that's the longest current streak. They're forty
Speaker 1: two and sixteen, and they are the overall number one seed.
Speaker 1: They won the SEC tournament, gave up only three runs
Speaker 1: in the entire tournament. Now think about that down and
Speaker 1: Hoover in the SEC Tournament in the best league in America.
Speaker 1: Vandy gave up a total of three runs, but in
Speaker 1: the weekend against Kentucky gave up nearly twenty runs and
Speaker 1: the Wildcats just couldn't hold on. But that weekend we
Speaker 1: thought might have cost Kentucky, might have kept the Wildcats
Speaker 1: out of the two tournament. But as you know by now,
Speaker 1: they're going to Clemson. Clemson is the host with forty
Speaker 1: four wins. Wildcats will take on West Virginia, the Big
Speaker 1: twelve regular season champ. West Virginia has played here in
Speaker 1: lexingon in an nca regional. This is a fourth regional
Speaker 1: appearance for the Wildcats under Nick Menje, one third in
Speaker 1: a row for the Wildcats. First time in UK history,
Speaker 1: the Wildcats have gone to three straight NCAA Baseball tournaments.
Speaker 1: Ben Zione got him there in twenty seventeen, his first
Speaker 1: year as the UK head coach, and then of course
Speaker 1: he to the last three seasons. Now, so the Wildcats
Speaker 1: will take on West Virginia and Clemson will play USC Upstate,
Speaker 1: and then we'll see what happens after that, and if
Speaker 1: Kentucky plays the way it did against Oklahoma in sweeping ou.
Speaker 1: If Kentucky plays the way it did against Tennessee in Knoxville,
Speaker 1: taking two out of three from the volunteers, and the
Speaker 1: Wildcats could move on. If they win, they likely would
Speaker 1: have to go back to Baton Rouge. That's where they
Speaker 1: played a couple of years ago against Paul Skeins and
Speaker 1: Dylan Cruz against the eventual national champion. But hey, they'd
Speaker 1: be okay with that, wouldn't they, Because they're in. And
Speaker 1: as Sam Newton used to say, you can play your
Speaker 1: way out of a bad seed. He was talking about
Speaker 1: the basketball tournament, but it holds up here as well.
Speaker 1: You can play your way out of a bad seed,
Speaker 1: but you can't play your way into the tournament. And
Speaker 1: the Wildcats are in, and we'll talk more about it
Speaker 1: tomorrow night on the show and break down the tournament field.
Speaker 1: But we're gonna take a break, and coming up next,
Speaker 1: we hear from Mark Pope here on the Best of
Speaker 1: the Big Boo Insider, going back to the conversation he
Speaker 1: had with John Rostein of CBS Sports. A little bit
Speaker 1: later on Marion Haskins on the late and great Larry
Speaker 1: Johnson player from Sean Woods, the unforgettable guard later in
Speaker 1: the show and former football wildcaty Anthony White. That's all
Speaker 1: I had on the Best of the Big Blue Insider
Speaker 1: here on Memorial Day on six thirty WLAP. Welcome back
Speaker 1: to the Best of the Big Blue Insider. Dick Gabriel
Speaker 1: with you. Here's part of the show we did first
Speaker 1: of the month, right after Mark Pope went on a
Speaker 1: national podcast. We got to talk about Mark Pope and
Speaker 1: John Rostein the podcast that Rostein produced and aired, and
Speaker 1: it's on YouTube if you want to go back and
Speaker 1: watch and listen to the whole thing if you haven't already.
Speaker 1: The Internet has been swamped with comments and clips and
Speaker 1: we're going to share some with you now. Rostein was
Speaker 1: on with Tom Leachs this morning. Been trying to get
Speaker 1: him on my show. He's been so busy that he's
Speaker 1: not been able to accommodate me. He was able to
Speaker 1: jump on, but Tom a little bit first thing this morning,
Speaker 1: but he had a great interview I thought with Pope
Speaker 1: and Mark of course as always so excited. And Rosstein
Speaker 1: began his podcast by just basically doing a monologue for
Speaker 1: about twenty minutes. But one of the things he touched
Speaker 1: on was how, yes, the NIL and the portal have
Speaker 1: kind of turned sports upside down, there's no question. But
Speaker 1: he basically told the same line that most of us have.
Speaker 1: I think you probably have too if you're a college
Speaker 1: sports fan, in that NIL has really really jumbled college athletics.
Speaker 1: But it's not necessarily a bad thing, because it's only
Speaker 1: fair now that the players get to share and the riches,
Speaker 1: and yes, some of these numbers are off the charts
Speaker 1: and the way the pendulum swings, and it'll swing back
Speaker 1: the other way. But what is really turn this thing
Speaker 1: upside down and inside out is the portal. And I
Speaker 1: do think everybody agrees, probably with the exception of a
Speaker 1: handful of players, that you ought to be allowed to
Speaker 1: transfer once, then after that you got to sit out
Speaker 1: of here. The people who would disagree are perhaps coaches
Speaker 1: who are welcoming a player they might need who's already
Speaker 1: been at three schools, and the coach is willing to
Speaker 1: overlook whatever problems the kid might have had, And of
Speaker 1: course the players who are bouncing from school to school
Speaker 1: to school, sometimes taking money with them without even playing,
Speaker 1: but oftentimes usually trying to find a spot where they'll
Speaker 1: better fit in because they're not patient at all. So
Speaker 1: that in mind. One of Rostein's first questions to Mark
Speaker 1: Pope was about being a head coach into today's climate.
Speaker 2: In some ways, the path forward continues to get murkier
Speaker 2: and murkier, And so I think where we are is
Speaker 2: I think we're getting bolder and boulder as we push forward.
Speaker 2: It's you see, you see all these changes. It's just
Speaker 2: this field that's ripe full of opportunity and we're trying
Speaker 2: to seize on it every single moment.
Speaker 1: What is it like to be a head coach in
Speaker 1: this climate?
Speaker 3: It is there, it is.
Speaker 2: I love it actually because it tests you in every way.
Speaker 2: It challenges you every way. Uh you know, you're you're
Speaker 2: taking in data and information at such an amazing clip,
Speaker 2: and you have to model so many different possible scenarios.
Speaker 2: You know, as we as we kind of see you're
Speaker 2: waiting on this settlement to kind of get some verdict
Speaker 2: on the settlement, you could see the trajectory of college
Speaker 2: athletics and college basketball going in a dozen different directions.
Speaker 2: You kind of got to model out all of those
Speaker 2: in scenarios that fit your program in your universe. And
Speaker 2: so the challenge involved in that is is never ending,
Speaker 2: and it's like I said, it's full of opportunity now.
Speaker 1: As head coaches go. Mark Pope is on the younger side,
Speaker 1: of course, the same profession that has seen guys like
Speaker 1: Jay Wright and Nick Saban, guys who have won their championships,
Speaker 1: done their work. They've stepped away Roy Williams, who again
Speaker 1: had had a great career and a little bit older
Speaker 1: than Mark Pope. But Mark excited about the opportunities first
Speaker 1: of all to be a Kentucky. Secondly to take advantage
Speaker 1: of information, the data he likes, and build a team.
Speaker 1: He's got a good recruiting class coming in, he's got
Speaker 1: a good portal group coming in, and he's got talented
Speaker 1: second year guys. You should listen to the podcast to
Speaker 1: get the full rundown on what he has to say
Speaker 1: about the guys coming back, Brandon Garrison and take O Way,
Speaker 1: Trent Noah. But he is excited, and it's to me
Speaker 1: it's an interesting reason he's so excited about his second
Speaker 1: year guys.
Speaker 2: Well, like you said, I think it's a key at
Speaker 2: being success and there's nothing like getting older with your
Speaker 2: own guys, right. And the second thing is my guys traditionally,
Speaker 2: my guy's second year take a massive leap because you know,
Speaker 2: we're such a rebased offense and in parts defense, where
Speaker 2: our guys are the deciders on the floor, they're not
Speaker 2: looking over at me. We coach them to be capable
Speaker 2: of making decisions on the court, so they spend very
Speaker 2: little time looking over me. We coach them to coach
Speaker 2: each other and communicate with each other. And so with
Speaker 2: a year under your belt, now now you're coming in
Speaker 2: not to learn the game or do the game, but
Speaker 2: you come in actually starting to play the game and
Speaker 2: trick up the game and like use all these actions
Speaker 2: to manipulate them in creative ways, and that's where the
Speaker 2: game gets incredibly fun. So he set the year guys
Speaker 2: going to be really key for.
Speaker 1: Us, especially if he gets oh way back. I suspect
Speaker 1: he will, and as Mark said otega Oway, there's a
Speaker 1: pretty good chance he'll be the preseason SEC Player of
Speaker 1: the Year coming back. But he's going to find out
Speaker 1: from the league at the very least what he needs
Speaker 1: to do to improve his game, get himself ready for
Speaker 1: the draft. And again, look at Antonio Reeves, look what
Speaker 1: it did for him. He came back almost like a
Speaker 1: different player, building on what he could do well and
Speaker 1: then getting better. Improved his handle, improved his defense, improved
Speaker 1: his ability to drive and score instead of just standing
Speaker 1: out there shooting three pointers away could do the same thing.
Speaker 1: Ross team basically had Mark go down the entire roster,
Speaker 1: and Pope was not shy about saying that, yeah, this
Speaker 1: Kentucky team will be capable if things break right of
Speaker 1: winning a national championship.
Speaker 4: We can get it done.
Speaker 2: Now, there's a lot of teams that can get it done.
Speaker 2: But if we do this right with the right guys,
Speaker 2: you know, we can get this done. And that's our job.
Speaker 2: That's what we're supposed to do. That's the standard here
Speaker 2: and nothing less as acceptable.
Speaker 5: But in terms of the rotation, how many guys do
Speaker 5: you think you're gonna be able to play this? I'd
Speaker 5: like to play them all.
Speaker 2: So I have twelve guys right now, So I have
Speaker 2: twelve guys that come help us. We're actually gonna try
Speaker 2: and round out this roster. I'm actually scouring the planet
Speaker 2: right now for guys that would fit in as maybe
Speaker 2: a red shirt guy that would kill it in practice,
Speaker 2: or maybe a last year of your career guy that
Speaker 2: wants to come here and put on this one of
Speaker 2: one jersey and be a part of this. So we
Speaker 2: need to add a couple more pieces. But right now
Speaker 2: we have our roster that's gonna own the minace on
Speaker 2: this floor, and we have all the pieces.
Speaker 1: I hope people set up and took notice when he
Speaker 1: said I'd like to play them all and you know
Speaker 1: you can't do that, but you can to a degree.
Speaker 1: But it was interesting to me how people got really
Speaker 1: I don't know, antsy about the way Pope subbed. And
Speaker 1: there were times when he made mistakes and admitted to it,
Speaker 1: but for the most part we've talked about it here
Speaker 1: on the show. He will not sub the way a
Speaker 1: a lot of people expected him to and b the
Speaker 1: way a lot of other coaches do, because as he
Speaker 1: pointed out, and he got really specific, because more people
Speaker 1: were actually calling and gently criticizing on his show the
Speaker 1: way he subbed. But as he pointed out, we try
Speaker 1: to keep people fresh. I'm paraphrasing, but he said, we
Speaker 1: worked so hard offensively, not just on defense, but offensively.
Speaker 1: We don't want people tiring and breaking down at the
Speaker 1: worst times. So they might say, you know what, this
Speaker 1: is my comment. They might sub a little earlier than
Speaker 1: they might want. Pope might not they Pope does it
Speaker 1: and risk, you know, missing a minute or two of productivity.
Speaker 1: So you've got people later in the game and he's
Speaker 1: going to keep doing that. So I don't you will
Speaker 1: not see him do what Caliperi and a lot of
Speaker 1: other coaches do, and that's whittle it down to eight.
Speaker 1: And again, cali Peri did that because John wooden't suggested it.
Speaker 1: But Mark Pope coaches a different style than wouldn't and
Speaker 1: Caliperi than a lot of guys. So don't expect to
Speaker 1: see a quote unquote substitution pattern beyond the very basics
Speaker 1: for Mark Pope. People need to lose that terminology substitution pattern.
Speaker 1: Why do you want that? Because if you if you
Speaker 1: can recognize the pattern, so can the other guys. I say,
Speaker 1: you sub the way the game demands, the way opposing
Speaker 1: personnel demands. That's how you want to guy a sub.
Speaker 1: And if you can't figure it out, that's because you
Speaker 1: haven't been at practice, you haven't taken apart the game plan,
Speaker 1: you haven't done the scout. We can all sit back
Speaker 1: and see how it works. But if you're trying to
Speaker 1: coach along and say thereself, Man, I put this guy
Speaker 1: in right now. Remember, Mark Pope is all about data.
Speaker 1: I don't have it, You don't have it, and he's
Speaker 1: collecting data while the game's going on. So just be
Speaker 1: patient and if it doesn't work well, ask him about
Speaker 1: it after the game and he'll describe why. Oh and
Speaker 1: by the way, Rosstein asked Pope about the schedule, and
Speaker 1: Pope said their son. He basically said, there's something going on,
Speaker 1: but he couldn't talk about it. What it probably was
Speaker 1: was the fact that Kentucky will place Saint John's in
Speaker 1: the CBS Sports Classic. The Red Storm will replace UCLA
Speaker 1: in the annual event. So Mark Pope versus Rick Bettino
Speaker 1: in the CBS Sports Classic. That's according to the Saint
Speaker 1: John's podcaster David Delroy. Red Storm taking over for UCLA.
Speaker 1: On the other side, North Carolina and Ohio State. On
Speaker 1: this Memorial Day, you're listening to the best of the
Speaker 1: Big Blue Insider. Welcome back to the best of the
Speaker 1: Big Blue Insider on this Memorial Day. Here's part of
Speaker 1: a show we taped on the Monday after the Kentucky derby.
Speaker 1: We talked horses and more from head coach Mark Pope.
Speaker 1: I will tell you I came out ahead slightly on
Speaker 1: the weekend. I did not hit any of the big
Speaker 1: tickets I had bet on the Derby because I took
Speaker 1: journalism and Baeza they ran two three. I had sovereignty
Speaker 1: on my ticket, just not in the right place and
Speaker 1: kicking myself, of course, as I do every year that
Speaker 1: I don't win when I feel like maybe I missed something,
Speaker 1: and in this situation it was this sovereignty had run
Speaker 1: on the Derby track, on Churchill Down's track, and ordinarily
Speaker 1: that's one of my favorite handicapping tools, but I was
Speaker 1: scared away by the fact that it was a sloppy track.
Speaker 1: And right now we don't know yet as we speak,
Speaker 1: as we record, is Bill Mott and are the handlers,
Speaker 1: the connections going to run the horse into Preakness? And
Speaker 1: they always say the same thing, We'll see how they
Speaker 1: come back, We'll see what the horse tells us, blah
Speaker 1: blah blah, which is smart because I got to be healthy.
Speaker 1: But Mott made the reference to the business side of things,
Speaker 1: and it's all the business. I get that. But here's
Speaker 1: the guy who's been in the game forever and is
Speaker 1: based here Lexington, Louisville, and he is looking down the
Speaker 1: road at races down the road, at breeding things like that.
Speaker 1: So there are too many horses that rush their way
Speaker 1: through the Triple Crown races and it affects them for
Speaker 1: the rest of their career, which means it affects their
Speaker 1: breeding value. So I'm not going to be stunned if
Speaker 1: Bill Mott doesn't run the horse and the Preakness, and
Speaker 1: the owners don't run the horse and the Preakness, but
Speaker 1: it's gonna be unfortunate if they don't, because look, I'm
Speaker 1: a racing fan. We need interest, we need fans, we
Speaker 1: need eyeballs. It helps you got a young influencer perhaps
Speaker 1: bringing people to the sport. But there's nothing better than
Speaker 1: a cold going for the Triple Crown. Go back and
Speaker 1: look at the attendance figures at the Belmont. When you've
Speaker 1: got a horse going for the third leg compared to
Speaker 1: one of the year that you don't, they'll get a
Speaker 1: decent crowd. You got a Triple Crown potential. It's awesome.
Speaker 1: So we'll keep track on that for you. And if
Speaker 1: you're a racing fan, you will too. And one of
Speaker 1: the people working the Derby. I didn't get a chance
Speaker 1: to had a slight injury that prevented me from being there.
Speaker 1: But a guy who've played a role that I have
Speaker 1: played several times through the years for radio coverage is
Speaker 1: our man Billy Rutledge. And if you follow Billy, you
Speaker 1: saw he posted an interview. He called it my interview
Speaker 1: with Derby winning jockey Junior Alvarado. Well, in full disclosure,
Speaker 1: this happened during the day prior to the race, But
Speaker 1: that's part of the job as the paddock reporter for
Speaker 1: radio coverage keyed by WHAS and carried on WLAP, And
Speaker 1: again I've done it several times. Your job is to
Speaker 1: go interview the writers right after a race that perhaps
Speaker 1: they won or in which they participated, but if they
Speaker 1: didn't win in their Derby Derby jock, you get a
Speaker 1: chance to talk to him a little bit about strategy.
Speaker 1: And Billy had a chance early in the day to
Speaker 1: catch up with Junior Ralvarado and ask him a little
Speaker 1: bit about what he expected from Derby one fifty one.
Speaker 6: You know, I'm very confident with him. You know, I
Speaker 6: think we're expecting a very good race out of him.
Speaker 6: You know, he's been training very well here. I think,
Speaker 6: you know, we never had to do too much with
Speaker 6: him before, so I think coming into the derby, that
Speaker 6: was our goal, you know, kind of like make sure
Speaker 6: we have enough course going into the derby. And I think,
Speaker 6: you know, we just did that and hopefully, you know,
Speaker 6: he shows me he is capable of. I think he's
Speaker 6: going to be very tough to get bit.
Speaker 1: And he was right Junior Alvarado talking to Billy Rutledge
Speaker 1: a couple of the and he was right, Junior Ralvarado
Speaker 1: talking to Billy Rutlands two or three hours prior to
Speaker 1: the Kentucky Derby that Alvarado won with a great ride
Speaker 1: on sovereignty. So that was the biggest news over the
Speaker 1: weekend if you're racing fan, casual or otherwise, if you're
Speaker 1: simply not interested, and that's all well and good. There
Speaker 1: is news about Mark Pope's roster. Rhys Potter, seven to
Speaker 1: one center, who spent the last couple of years at
Speaker 1: Miami of Ohio, has decided to come through the portal
Speaker 1: and join the Wildcats. Played in fifty six games over
Speaker 1: the last couple of seasons for the RedHawks, came off
Speaker 1: the bench six and a half points, three and a
Speaker 1: half rebounds. Pope kind of talked about this when he
Speaker 1: talked to John Rostein. Plus, it's official now about the
Speaker 1: big man coming in from Croatia. We've known about it
Speaker 1: for a little while, but UK couldn't say anything about
Speaker 1: it until he signed. And now. Andrea Yeleovich, one of
Speaker 1: the top prospects coming out of Europe, is a Kentucky Wildcat.
Speaker 1: He signed earlier today, or at least they got his paperwork.
Speaker 1: Six' eleven eleven points a, game seven and a half
Speaker 1: rebounds in The Adriatic league For mega Super, bet and
Speaker 1: they also list him as one and a half a
Speaker 1: sis per. Game he's gonna have to go something to
Speaker 1: be a passer as effective as A Mari, williams, who
Speaker 1: by the, way was invited to THE G league. Camp
Speaker 1: So mari's got a chance to play for pay in this.
Speaker 1: Country he could play overseas right, now but he's better
Speaker 1: off getting a shot at THE G, league maybe working
Speaker 1: a two way with AN nba team Like sheboe. Has
Speaker 1: Although i'm still amazed posting the, numbers he has posted
Speaker 1: That Oscar sibe has not yet locked down a full
Speaker 1: time job in The. League maybe he, will but, Anyhow
Speaker 1: yellovich will be a key From. Zagreb croatia has spent
Speaker 1: the last two years in The Adriatic, league And hope
Speaker 1: obviously high on. Him but as he Told John rosstein last,
Speaker 1: week he's hired a lot of. Guys and the comment
Speaker 1: that intrigued me the most was When rostein Asked pope
Speaker 1: About Denzel. Aberdeen and this is one of the transfers
Speaker 1: that piqued my, interest maybe more than Any here's a
Speaker 1: guy who was playing good minutes At florida ever nearly
Speaker 1: eight points a, game and you'd think was going to
Speaker 1: play more this coming, year and they just won a national.
Speaker 1: Title yet he's transferred To. Kentucky And rostein Asked pope
Speaker 1: about studying and evaluating video prior to their zoom conversation.
Speaker 3: That there was no.
Speaker 2: Evaluation so my evaluation came in the two weeks that
Speaker 2: we were trying to do like background prepping that prep
Speaker 2: for our game Against, florida which was it was the
Speaker 2: first game of THE sec, season and SO i had
Speaker 2: some familiar with their. Team but AS i dug more
Speaker 2: and more to the, Film i'm, like this cat coming
Speaker 2: off the bench is terrifying to, me and he certainly
Speaker 2: proved it throughout the course of the. Season he is, just,
Speaker 2: uh you, know the fun part of the research for
Speaker 2: us was actually getting to know him as a. Person he's, special, special, Special.
Speaker 2: Uh you, know he's got a great joy about. Him
Speaker 2: he's got a passion and. Commitment he is, determined uh
Speaker 2: to continue his journey towards becoming a great basketball. Player
Speaker 2: he's proven with what he did in this four guard
Speaker 2: rotation At florida that he is a team first guy
Speaker 2: and he's gonna have a you, know it's hard to
Speaker 2: have a breakout season after you just won a national.
Speaker 2: Championship but he's gonna have a big time breakout.
Speaker 1: Season and it could be a matter of the fit
Speaker 1: In Mark pope's offense. Whatever. Uh clearly the kid has
Speaker 1: studied The kentucky roster and sees a better opportunity in.
Speaker 1: Election and, so LIKE i, SAID i Think yellovich is
Speaker 1: gonna be. FASCINATING i Think aberdeen is as. Well while
Speaker 1: we're talking To kentucky. Roster you know, why Now Travis
Speaker 1: perry has a new, home he's playing an old Miss
Speaker 1: that surprises me a little. BIT i don't know anything
Speaker 1: about their roster and what they need right, now but
Speaker 1: just thinking back to the way they played last year and,
Speaker 1: again if it's a new roster and a new style of,
Speaker 1: play maybe if it's perfectly For Chris, beard but that's another.
Speaker 1: Key he'll be playing for a, really really good coach
Speaker 1: In Chris, beard so good luck to, him good. Opportunity
Speaker 1: one other basketball. Note michail MacLean you know, now has
Speaker 1: signed a contract. Extension Ben roberts reported on it over the.
Speaker 1: Weekend is one year deal was worth one hundred and
Speaker 1: fifty grand plus performance. Bonuses now to your extension worth
Speaker 1: four hundred grand this coming year and four twenty five next.
Speaker 1: Year nice work if you can get. It But Mark
Speaker 1: pope believes this guy is a star in the. Making
Speaker 1: one other roster, note this one about. FOOTBALL ukse picked
Speaker 1: up another tight. End Elijah brown technically comes FROM Ucf Central,
Speaker 1: florida never played, there entered the portal In, december signed In,
Speaker 1: january but now is A Kentucky. Wildcat he had spent
Speaker 1: a year At, alabama Left, bama spent two years At Florida.
Speaker 1: Atlantic primarily was a special teams. Player Vince merrill recruited
Speaker 1: this kid out Of Dayton Wayne High. School when the
Speaker 1: young man was a high school it was a nation's
Speaker 1: eighth ranked tight. End but he has kind of spun
Speaker 1: his wheels a little. Bit said no To, Kentucky yes To,
Speaker 1: alabama that didn't work. Out now he's got a second
Speaker 1: shot with The. Wildcats this is the best of The
Speaker 1: Big Blooming cider coming up next to Former wildcat talks
Speaker 1: about the Late Larry, Johnson kentucky point guard who passed
Speaker 1: way a few weeks. Ago here on The Big Booming
Speaker 1: sider six point thirty Wlap welcome back to the best
Speaker 1: of The Big Blue, Insider joined now by Former wildcat
Speaker 1: well once a, While kat always a Wildcad Maryon haskins
Speaker 1: who played Alongside Larry johnson for a few years At.
Speaker 1: KENTUCKY a Fellow Western Kentuckian marion AND i know you
Speaker 1: hated to lose your, teammate didn't.
Speaker 3: YOU i really hated to lose my, teammate you know
Speaker 3: when all this was. Happening you, KNOW i try to
Speaker 3: be there as much AS i. Could larry AND i
Speaker 3: we first met In, Sharon pennsylvania at The, Sharon Pennsylvania
Speaker 3: High school tournaments there in nineteen the spring of nineteen seventy.
Speaker 3: Three so from, There larry AND i we played at
Speaker 3: That All Star, game and we played in The Dayton
Speaker 3: classic there In, Dayton, ohio and we became really good
Speaker 3: friends those two, tournaments and then it was tied for
Speaker 3: being rooted and we were just comparing our notes and,
Speaker 3: whatnot and and we ended up being to The Kentucky
Speaker 3: as as our favorite.
Speaker 1: School when, so when you guys run The All Star,
Speaker 1: games you hadn't CHOSEN uk.
Speaker 3: Yet, no we had. Not, wow we had not told.
Speaker 3: You we both was unsigned at that.
Speaker 1: Time so when you, talked what did you talk? About
Speaker 1: not JUST uk but other schools that were probably looking
Speaker 1: at both of. You but what what was that like
Speaker 1: when you sat down and, Chatted.
Speaker 3: Well we was it was mostly about the, coaches it
Speaker 3: appears to me and my. Memory it was about the,
Speaker 3: coaches the head coach and the assistant, coaches and it
Speaker 3: was mostly about about those kinds of. Things you, know
Speaker 3: we didn't know a lot because you, know back then
Speaker 3: it was No. Internet there was not a lot of
Speaker 3: information about the. Teams you, know back, THEN i Remember
Speaker 3: kentucky were only played of the layed cast at eleven
Speaker 3: o'clock at, height and they was fortunate to have bad
Speaker 3: and because at that time Not To day was the
Speaker 3: ONLY DUD i remember that had a live, game so
Speaker 3: that was important to be able to see those. Games
Speaker 3: BUT i didn't know a lot about the teams and.
Speaker 3: Stuff you, know just get unless you watch. Them you
Speaker 3: just didn't. Know if it makes you it was not.
Speaker 3: There SO i, knew and we knew that we were
Speaker 3: pretty baggone good, players you, know from playing in The
Speaker 3: All star against compared to a lot of these. Kids
Speaker 3: they had a whole lot of credentials prep All americans
Speaker 3: and all this. Stuff AND i mean we played right
Speaker 3: with him and even played a little bit. BETTER i, thought,
Speaker 3: yeah oh.
Speaker 1: Yeah and when you Saw larry, play was it pretty
Speaker 1: evident right away that you, KNOW i, mean it's such
Speaker 1: a great defender and ball. HANDLER i guess that was
Speaker 1: pretty evident when he was a high school.
Speaker 3: Senior let me tell, YOU i grew up on a small,
Speaker 3: farm bill cows through hey cut, tobacco And larry probably
Speaker 3: did some of the similar. Things we were farm strong young.
Speaker 3: Men and WHEN i met this, guy AND i tried
Speaker 3: to guard this, guy AND i try to push him,
Speaker 3: AROUND i, Said my, GOD i, said he is not
Speaker 3: from downtown some big. City this guy is stronger than.
Speaker 3: OFF i, mean he was just as tough As i've
Speaker 3: ever played. Against so, MAN i knew, THEN i, said,
Speaker 3: man just to be a great.
Speaker 1: Teammate, well and because you were both like what football
Speaker 1: coaches like to call country strong or farm. Strong, yes and,
Speaker 1: yes the way you played, Basketball Joe hall appreciated, that no,
Speaker 1: end didn't he.
Speaker 3: Exactly he, appreciated you, know we were mentally. Tough SO
Speaker 3: i didn't weighing one hundred and ninety two or three,
Speaker 3: pounds Then larry didn't weighed about one hundred about the.
Speaker 3: Same but, man let me tell, you we were. Strong
Speaker 3: and he did not bag down from. Nobody and he
Speaker 3: was the same. Way he was just as as the
Speaker 3: other one and just a great.
Speaker 1: Person oh, yeah oh, Yeah well he had that million watch,
Speaker 1: smile didn't.
Speaker 3: He, yeah that's my always was a happy. GUY i
Speaker 3: never saw him at a sad, moment and even in
Speaker 3: his last few, days you, know and he was still
Speaker 3: happy and so he couldn't do much, talking BUT i
Speaker 3: would say some things that that happened in the, past
Speaker 3: and he made them. Alive, man he make them.
Speaker 1: Alive, yeah people don't realize how great a Player larry.
Speaker 1: Was first of all in, college, right and then when
Speaker 1: he went on To, japan played a year in THE,
Speaker 1: nba but went on To, japan and he was almost
Speaker 1: a legend over, there wasn't.
Speaker 3: He oh, YES i See lane played there at LEAST
Speaker 3: i want to think fifteen. Years, yeah about fifteen, YEARS i.
Speaker 3: THINK i think they're In japan and, uh you know
Speaker 3: you've done a great job there and but not because
Speaker 3: you know when he got. Drafted, uh he played for a,
Speaker 3: season a few seasons in THE, nba, yea, yeah oh,
Speaker 3: yeah and we still were made, friends you. KNOW i
Speaker 3: mean was talking about going overseas to, play and that
Speaker 3: was an interesting. Conversation did you ever go? Overseas, NO
Speaker 3: i didn't. Go larry got invited to go To italy
Speaker 3: And larry did a packing seal says that IF i,
Speaker 3: GO i got a Brave. Marinhattan, yeah and they said
Speaker 3: he can't, come but we're not going to pay its
Speaker 3: way until they make the. Team, well you know back
Speaker 3: in nineteen seventy, seven you, know seven, Eight, earlinutel.
Speaker 1: You was a lot of, money, Buddy and IF i.
Speaker 3: Got, THERE i Tell, LARRY i SUPPOSE i same my
Speaker 3: anchor the first. Day, yeah you, know SO i did to,
Speaker 3: go you, know but it was a lot of.
Speaker 1: Fun oh, yeah you. KNOW i tell people, this and,
Speaker 1: again not a knock On Kyle macy or anybody, else
Speaker 1: but that's seventy seventeam With larry at the. Point that
Speaker 1: team just destroyed. People seventy eight. TEAM i always taying
Speaker 1: a toy with teams before they put them away because
Speaker 1: they knew how good they. Were but, man that seventy seven,
Speaker 1: TEAM i always say it was like a kid with
Speaker 1: a new toy and just absolutely shredded. Teams and you,
Speaker 1: know just some tough luck is why it ended up
Speaker 1: in The East regional and not playing at home in
Speaker 1: Rep arena in The Mid. East Otherwise joe b has another.
Speaker 3: Title, Right, hey we should have had the YEARS i
Speaker 3: played three out of four. Years, yeah easily easily could
Speaker 3: have had three out of. Four you know.
Speaker 5: That.
Speaker 3: TEAM i, mean even the guys on the seventy eighteen
Speaker 3: they would say the same thing up in, seventeen what's
Speaker 3: much deeper? Deeper and, uh, well we had a you,
Speaker 3: know we had a chart, there a charter there to
Speaker 3: go by it and we were just like bury the.
Speaker 3: Team But i'll tell you something That john was after
Speaker 3: he retired that, year he came back and he watched
Speaker 3: us practice there in uh In, PENNSYLVANIA i think it was.
Speaker 3: There and he came over to us and were sitting
Speaker 3: down on the bench and AND i remember he lived
Speaker 3: At Joe. Hall he, Said, JOE i want to tell
Speaker 3: you something. Here he, said you got a great. Team he,
Speaker 3: said but my best team never won THE ncaa. Championship,
Speaker 3: no wait a, minute where's the guy nine? Championships nine of?
Speaker 5: Me?
Speaker 3: RIGHT i had? Ten, okay either? One and he, said
Speaker 3: my best team never won the. Time now that's. Deep
Speaker 3: that's really. Deep which?
Speaker 1: One which? One did he? Think was? It seventy four?
Speaker 3: Team he never? Said, YEAH i was we. UNDERSTAND i
Speaker 3: was listening. In, Yeah.
Speaker 1: I've never heard that. Story. MAN i WISH i could
Speaker 1: Ask JOE b.
Speaker 3: That question that that he was talking there and he
Speaker 3: talked to the team about you, know winning and traditions
Speaker 3: and stuff like, that and on sort of the sidebar.
Speaker 3: Conversation he was done with a people kind of saying
Speaker 3: there kit chatting With JOE b AND uh and of,
Speaker 3: couse you, KNOW i was always kind of colost By
Speaker 3: Joe hall, anyway AND i hear him say, that AND
Speaker 3: i was, like oh my. God, Yeah and you, know
Speaker 3: at that time it didn't mean a lot to, Me
Speaker 3: but NOW i got much more mature person that was really,
Speaker 3: strong really, deep you, Know and NOW i, said what
Speaker 3: should have been that didn't win?
Speaker 2: It?
Speaker 3: Now you, Know i'm sure he had a lot of
Speaker 3: things that went into the, team not just you, know
Speaker 3: win losses and stuff like. That, Problem but, yeah that was.
Speaker 1: Great, yeah talking To marry And. Askins he was a
Speaker 1: basketball wildcat back in the seventies and a teammate Of Larry.
Speaker 1: Johnson we lost this, week And larry was a great,
Speaker 1: leader great. Defender we were. Talking Tom leach AND i
Speaker 1: were talking about that N I. T larry had a
Speaker 1: GREAT NI t when you guys wanted up In New
Speaker 1: york in seventy, Six and Course reggie AND i talked
Speaker 1: About larry taking the ball and going the link to
Speaker 1: the floor for a layup that beat the buzzer Against.
Speaker 1: Providence what do you remember about? THAT i was just so.
Speaker 3: ELATED i don't remember all of the. Details, yeah as the,
Speaker 3: day but that was a great. TOURNAMENT i, mean the
Speaker 3: NI t that year was. Fantastic we had some great,
Speaker 3: Wins we had some things to, prove you, know to
Speaker 3: our hands that you, know we had a tough, season
Speaker 3: but we can't have, to you, know fifty fifty that
Speaker 3: year or something like. That, yeah And Joe's hall looked
Speaker 3: at us and, Said i'm not going to be a losing,
Speaker 3: coach and we're not seam and we made sure that
Speaker 3: we didn't do.
Speaker 1: That you were ten ten at, one that's, right and
Speaker 1: you won five straight and you got the N t.
Speaker 1: Bid and then in the last you played in the
Speaker 1: last regular season game In Memorial, coliseum and y'all damn near,
Speaker 1: lusted but somehow got it into overtime and. Won The
Speaker 1: Mississippi state kids run the radio, saying, hey, mom we Beat. Kentucky,
Speaker 1: man that history.
Speaker 3: Is unbelievable in. It i'm telling, YOU i thought we
Speaker 3: couldn't lose this game here in. Memory it's no. Way but,
Speaker 3: MAN i tell you we. Didn't we didn't play. Well,
Speaker 3: no we game some kind of.
Speaker 1: Way, Yeah jack got hot down the. Stretch, YEAH i, Know.
Speaker 1: Jack that happened a lot, though didn't? It jack get that?
Speaker 1: Hot that was also a period of. Time it WAS
Speaker 1: i think The vanderbilt game And Reggie word was throwing
Speaker 1: the ball in bounds and actually threw it into the opposite.
Speaker 1: Basket didn't count as a, bucket but it was quite a.
Speaker 1: Highlight the.
Speaker 3: Highlight, yeah and you remember what With joe b did at?
Speaker 3: Halftime who started the second half in.
Speaker 1: The Missiv state? Game no? Game oh, NO i don't.
Speaker 1: REMEMBER i think you look at the.
Speaker 3: RECORD i think it was all reserved. Guys, wow that
Speaker 3: started the game AS i.
Speaker 1: Recall, Wow, marion it's always great talking to. You i'm
Speaker 1: sorry we had to do it under such a sad,
Speaker 1: conditions BUT i was glad to see you at the
Speaker 1: reunion weekend earlier this. Year hope to see you again,
Speaker 1: soon my. Friend thank you so.
Speaker 3: Much All, Right, dick give me a.
Speaker 1: Call Marion, askins a basketball wildcat back in the mid
Speaker 1: seventies and a teammate of the Late Larry. Johnson it's
Speaker 1: the best of The Big ones cider on This Memorial.
Speaker 1: Day more to come on six thirty W l.
Speaker 7: At any type, station tact can anything.
Speaker 1: Only welcome back to The Big Blue. INSIDER i hope
Speaker 1: you are having an Outstanding Memorial day. Weekend this is
Speaker 1: the best of The Big Blue, insider And i'm going
Speaker 1: to take you back now to a story we told
Speaker 1: just a couple of days after The Kentucky, derby when
Speaker 1: there was a little bit of, well an interesting twist
Speaker 1: to THE nbc sports. Coverage they had to make a
Speaker 1: late substitution to the guy who was leading the, broadcast
Speaker 1: and it reminded me of a moment in my, career
Speaker 1: such as it is that almost led me to a
Speaker 1: great opportunity to work with one of my all time favorite.
Speaker 1: Broadcasters it just didn't, happen but that was running through
Speaker 1: my mind WHILE i was watching NBC's Kentucky derby. Coverage
Speaker 1: here it is on The best of The Big Blue.
Speaker 1: INSIDER i saw, this of Course i'm Watching derby, coverage
Speaker 1: and if you were, too you noticed, it or you
Speaker 1: may have not noticed, it but it just kind of.
Speaker 1: Happened Mike turko opened the broadcast ON. Nbc it started
Speaker 1: off ON Usa network and it was anchored by a Medfar.
Speaker 1: Reid it's really, good and then they turned it over TO.
Speaker 1: Nbc they basically, said, alright is gonna shift over TO
Speaker 1: nbc and you, know more coming. Up blah, blah. Blah
Speaker 1: so There's turco and they had just gotten started WHEN
Speaker 1: i looked up and THERE'S i met Far red and
Speaker 1: he was doing a little stand up piece FOR. Nbc
Speaker 1: but then the next thing you, know he's. Back at
Speaker 1: the anchor desk Was Randy moss And Jerry. BAILEY i
Speaker 1: think are. Terrific they do a tremendous job covering the
Speaker 1: derby those two, guys and so does For reed And
Speaker 1: tarico's done a nice. JOB i sure Wish Tom hammond
Speaker 1: was still on the, Broadcast butterrico does a nice. Job
Speaker 1: but the next thing you, know he's, gone and Far
Speaker 1: reid had taken, over and eventually he got the opportunity to,
Speaker 1: Say mike's not feeling, well So i'll be here for
Speaker 1: a little. While and in fact he finished the, day
Speaker 1: AS i, recall and he spent four straight hours handling
Speaker 1: the coverage and did a great. Job and he talked
Speaker 1: about it later on to a media. Outlet he said
Speaker 1: he got done with the coverage ON usa at two point,
Speaker 1: thirty took off his, mic took out his. Earpiece he
Speaker 1: says he was leaving the little studio. There he, SAID
Speaker 1: i bumped Into mike And tarico stopped him and he
Speaker 1: could tell that something was. Wrong Forar reid could he,
Speaker 1: said he didn't look quite the. Same he, SAID i
Speaker 1: think his eyes were watering a little, bit and he
Speaker 1: And tariico said to, Him i'm not feeling. Great you
Speaker 1: might have to take over for, me And forarid, said
Speaker 1: that's a, shock Because mike is a. Machine So farid
Speaker 1: said to, Himself, okay he's not feeling, well but there's
Speaker 1: no Way mike's not going to be able to power through,
Speaker 1: this which he tried for thirty to forty five, minutes
Speaker 1: but Apparently tariico just took kiptaking turns for the worse and,
Speaker 1: worse and at one Point afreid had his ear piece back,
Speaker 1: in and about forty five minutes, later they got in
Speaker 1: his ear and said you got to come back and
Speaker 1: host the, show which he did and was. Terrific and
Speaker 1: that happens every once in a great, while somebody has
Speaker 1: to step in for. Somebody AND i almost had a
Speaker 1: situation like, that AND i bring it up only because
Speaker 1: it's one of my great. REGRETS i was working the
Speaker 1: twenty SEVEN ncaa. TOURNAMENT i think the baseball team was
Speaker 1: out of, town that, weekend and by NOW i had
Speaker 1: wrapped up the YEARS i had worked for THE Nca radio.
Speaker 1: Network But i'm In, Rapperina and that was the tournament
Speaker 1: Where Billy GILLESPIE'S a AND m team emerged and Beat,
Speaker 1: louisville and people mistakenly thought That Mitch barnard was courtside
Speaker 1: Watching billy Beat. Louisville that's when he decided to hire.
Speaker 1: Him mitch was In chicago With. Kentucky but that win
Speaker 1: and that weekend For Billy gillespie cemented him as the
Speaker 1: hottest coach In. America BUT i. Digress across the way
Speaker 1: is a guy Named Dave simms who's now the radio
Speaker 1: voice of The New York. Yankees for, many many, years
Speaker 1: he was the voice of The Seattle. Mariners lives In New,
Speaker 1: york commuted To. Seattle you, know he had a place
Speaker 1: out there and he. Stay he is one of my
Speaker 1: all time favorite. BROADCASTERS i have never met the, man
Speaker 1: but he's. TREMENDOUS i just love his. Work so he's
Speaker 1: over there and he's working radio In Say radio With Dave.
Speaker 1: Gavitt And i'd worked With dave as a producer Friends Say.
Speaker 1: Radio but the next THING i, Know gavitt's, gone AND
Speaker 1: i come to find out That, gavitt Like, turrico had
Speaker 1: been under the, weather the Former providence, coach the former
Speaker 1: head of The Big. East he had had to, Leave
Speaker 1: he had had to go and get medical, help and
Speaker 1: he ended up being really sick after that. WEEKEND i
Speaker 1: don't know if he ever worked again for THE Ncaa radio.
Speaker 1: Network but little DID i know that one of the
Speaker 1: producers for the Nca radio network who also worked with
Speaker 1: us on THE uk, Network Mike, dodson he was up
Speaker 1: In New, york but he had a feeling THAT i
Speaker 1: was going to be In. Raperna so he starts calling
Speaker 1: me or trying to call, me to tell me to
Speaker 1: walk across the court and sit down and do the
Speaker 1: games With Dave, gavitt at least doing them that, day
Speaker 1: BECAUSE i mean it was literally last. Minute, WELL i
Speaker 1: had a cell phone back, then company. PHONE i was
Speaker 1: working AT. Img i'm not going to say the, brand
Speaker 1: but it's not What i've got, now and it was
Speaker 1: a piece of, junk and he might kept trying to
Speaker 1: call me and could not get through to. ME i
Speaker 1: had my phone right in front of, me could not
Speaker 1: get Into. Rupperina so many, people so many people on
Speaker 1: their phones In, rupperena couldn't text, me couldn't get anything
Speaker 1: through to, me and tell me to walk across and
Speaker 1: sit down and work with a GUY i had idolized
Speaker 1: for so. LONG i get somebody else to do. IT
Speaker 1: i think the next day they Had Kyle macy come
Speaker 1: in and work With. Dave but that's the first THING
Speaker 1: i thought of WHEN i heard and sell the rest
Speaker 1: of the story on NBC's coverage that For reid had
Speaker 1: sat down and spent so much time subbing From Mike
Speaker 1: tariko and did a terrific. Job of, course he already
Speaker 1: had complete command of the. MATERIAL i would have been
Speaker 1: flying by the seat of my pants broadcasting two, games
Speaker 1: doing the color for crying out. Loud but REALLY i
Speaker 1: just would have been filling, in trying to stay out
Speaker 1: of the way of the Great Dave. Simms and now
Speaker 1: he is the radio. Voice it's a job he's always,
Speaker 1: wanted he, said being the radio voice of The New York.
Speaker 1: Yankees So Aaron gershan can enjoy him if he pulls
Speaker 1: him up, online And i'm Sure i've Got i've got
Speaker 1: to look around and see there are other stories like
Speaker 1: that where people step in at the last. Minute And
Speaker 1: i'm not SAYING i would have done a great, job
Speaker 1: but it would have been a thrill for. ME i
Speaker 1: can tell you. That AND i wouldn't tell them, this
Speaker 1: BUT i would have done it for. Free this is
Speaker 1: the best of The Big bloom And. Sider this is
Speaker 1: the best of The Big bloom And. Sider welcome back
Speaker 1: to The Big blue And sider joining, us says he
Speaker 1: does Every wednesday on Our celebrity hotline is the unforgettable.
Speaker 1: Guard Sean woods now the head coach At Scott. County
Speaker 1: but now another, dude he added to the. Resume and
Speaker 1: you were part Of La familia last Year sean as
Speaker 1: an assistant. Coach now you're the head. COACH i guess
Speaker 1: this has got to be another exciting, assignment AM I?
Speaker 5: Right, well no doubt about. It anytime you can, coach you, know,
Speaker 5: ANYONE i don't care if It's.
Speaker 4: Pee Wee, League Junior, pro junior high.
Speaker 5: Whatever you get an opportunity to coach young men and
Speaker 5: and and and and try, to you, know achieve a
Speaker 5: common goal and that's excellent and trying to win as
Speaker 5: many games or a championship as you possibly.
Speaker 1: Can bottom line is. Winning but this is an entirely
Speaker 1: different type of, coaching.
Speaker 3: Isn't it no?
Speaker 5: Doubt you, KNOW i had an opportunity to be the
Speaker 5: head coach last year AND i didn't know IF i.
Speaker 5: Could SO i told, twenty you, know try to get someone.
Speaker 5: Else and he got a good one in And Tyler,
Speaker 5: uless who did a great. Job AND i was there with,
Speaker 5: him AND i realized THAT i can't coach. Pros you,
Speaker 5: Know i've never coached pros, before but it's coaching the same,
Speaker 5: way you, know especially guys that know how to. Play you,
Speaker 5: know it's easier coaching pros because you, know all you
Speaker 5: got to do is give him an assignment and they'll
Speaker 5: go out and do. It and the good thing about
Speaker 5: this situation, coaching uh THE tvt deal and with a
Speaker 5: lot famil is these. Guys we made it a pride.
Speaker 3: Deal you.
Speaker 5: Know anytime you put on that that jersey that Says
Speaker 5: kentucky or Represent, kentucky you, know it just ooves through
Speaker 5: your so and it creates another type of. Competitor and
Speaker 5: that's the reason why we have. Success you, know If
Speaker 5: Nate sestina doesn't leave, us you, KNOW i loved our
Speaker 5: chances on winning that.
Speaker 1: Deal, YEAH i remember that your guys were rolling and
Speaker 1: then you lost eight and you were just kind of
Speaker 1: a different team when you call it, again everybody on
Speaker 1: this roster either played in THE nba or overseas or.
Speaker 1: Both AND i got to think, too whatever the, level
Speaker 1: if you are a good, athlete in this case a basketball,
Speaker 1: player and you want to, excel you will accept, coaching won't,
Speaker 1: you no matter how high a level you've, Reached.
Speaker 5: No doubt about. It and the good thing about coaching
Speaker 5: these pros is they know it. Already they've been coached
Speaker 5: at the highest.
Speaker 3: Level you.
Speaker 5: Know as long as they coming in with the right
Speaker 5: frame of, mind the coaching is easy because all we're
Speaker 5: doing is trying to strategize ways to simplify and create
Speaker 5: ways for us to be successful in the offensive end
Speaker 5: and then do, things you, know from a defensive end
Speaker 5: stamp point to give us a great chance to.
Speaker 1: Win, well you mentioned frame of, Mind AND i remember
Speaker 1: When twany spoke to the media and he, said when
Speaker 1: he put out the message looking for players trying to
Speaker 1: see he was willing to play and of course coach
Speaker 1: like you. Guys you, know he basically said in a,
Speaker 1: paraphrasing this is not just something to get together and
Speaker 1: break a sweat and have. FUN i, mean you, guys,
Speaker 1: really as you, said you sort of rededicated, yourselves didn't.
Speaker 5: You we, did you, know we had we had to
Speaker 5: kind of, come had to come To jesus meeting last.
Speaker 5: Year you, know they kind of had that attitude at.
Speaker 5: First then after about the second, day you, know we
Speaker 5: just told him, listen you know you still Represent kentucky
Speaker 5: and you know people still want to beat, us and you,
Speaker 5: know we we're asking these fans to come out and support,
Speaker 5: us and we got, to you, know put on a
Speaker 5: great show because when we're playing rup or wherever we're playing,
Speaker 5: at no matter what if you've been here five years
Speaker 5: or been going for six, years these the people here
Speaker 5: in the state Of kentucky still expect you to. Win
Speaker 5: and this is still you, know and we're playing for.
Speaker 5: Something we're playing for a million.
Speaker 4: Dollars so that was the other.
Speaker 3: Character.
Speaker 1: Also it's more than the money, though isn't.
Speaker 5: It, oh no doubt about it is the, pride you,
Speaker 5: know still having That kentucky on your chest a little,
Speaker 5: bit even though we called a lie for, me but
Speaker 5: everyone knows we're the product OF uk.
Speaker 4: BASKETBALL i was really.
Speaker 1: PLEASED i GUESS i shouldn't have been. Surprised you probably
Speaker 1: weren't that a lot of these guys were really moved
Speaker 1: and touched by the fan. Response and as you, said
Speaker 1: a lot of these guys have been gone far far,
Speaker 1: AWAY i, mean out of, sight out of mind for several.
Speaker 1: Years but when they came, back it's like they'd never been,
Speaker 1: gone you, Know AND i guess you kind of saw that,
Speaker 1: coming BUT i got a kick out of.
Speaker 5: That, well what we had to do was and it
Speaker 5: was you, know everything happens for a, reason and you,
Speaker 5: know as an assistant, coach not only DID i help
Speaker 5: with coach and you, KNOW i really had, to you,
Speaker 5: know teach these guys how significant they are To. Ucky you,
Speaker 5: know most of those, guys and these guys that are
Speaker 5: playing FOR us had only spent eight months in The
Speaker 5: commonwealth because they were they were one and done for
Speaker 5: the most, part so they didn't appreciate and know how
Speaker 5: significant they. Were as far as an autograph, session you,
Speaker 5: know they couldn't believe that so many people would come
Speaker 5: back and want their. Autographs so after the, yeah it
Speaker 5: was it was amazing Because how can you get used to.
Speaker 4: Anything when you're only here to play.
Speaker 5: Basketball you know What i'm, Saying and then you go
Speaker 5: into THE. Nba this was just like a feeder system for,
Speaker 5: them AND i had to really, emphasize you, know like
Speaker 5: after the first, GAME i made everyone after the game
Speaker 5: go back out out in the in the arena area
Speaker 5: and sign every autograph to the last person.
Speaker 3: Left.
Speaker 5: Wow interesting because they, didn't you, Know AND i told,
Speaker 5: THEM i, said, listen you're not going to be more
Speaker 5: significant than any in any other place in the. World but,
Speaker 5: HERE i, said you, Know, tyler you Is Willie, kolstein you,
Speaker 5: Know taler The Phoenix suns that they didn't forgot about you,
Speaker 5: already you, Know willie Call, Asy Sacramento kings that forgot
Speaker 5: about you, already you, know But kentucky never forgets.
Speaker 1: You that's, Right that's, right you.
Speaker 5: Know and even though if you played six, months four
Speaker 5: years or, whatever you still wore that uniform and there's
Speaker 5: still a great appreciation for you in this, place unlike
Speaker 5: any other place that you will live or be it
Speaker 5: in your.
Speaker 4: Life and that was My that was my call in last,
Speaker 4: year and it's.
Speaker 3: Going to be my call in this.
Speaker 5: Year.
Speaker 1: Too that's a great, point you, mate because in the
Speaker 1: pros you're a. Commodity you know that some, people you,
Speaker 1: know rise above. That but but ninety eight percent of the,
Speaker 1: time you, know and people sign up for that right
Speaker 1: as a pro you could. Stay if you stayed one
Speaker 1: franchise for thirteen or fourteen, years that might be. Different
Speaker 1: that doesn't happen, anymore does it?
Speaker 5: Now as you can see, that you, know the trading
Speaker 5: is just like anything. Else you, know nobody's staying in one.
Speaker 3: Place and look at. It it's in.
Speaker 5: College now that's.
Speaker 1: True that's. True, Hey speaking of WHICH i know you
Speaker 1: Noticed Boogie flann Leaves, caliperry dips his toe in THE nba,
Speaker 1: waters then goes To. Florida and it can't be a
Speaker 1: money thing because we know there's a bottomless pit of
Speaker 1: chicken money and more In. Arkansas but he leaves the
Speaker 1: guy he said no thanks To kentucky and Followed caliperry To,
Speaker 1: arkansas got, hurt but came. Back they had a good.
Speaker 1: Run but then he leaves For. Florida what do you
Speaker 1: make of?
Speaker 3: That?
Speaker 5: Typical typical you, know there's just no loyalty in kindege athletics,
Speaker 5: anymore you, know and you could, tell just like anywhere,
Speaker 5: else he didn't care About arkansas that arkassos in his.
Speaker 5: Chest no one, does, yeah you. Know and last year
Speaker 5: because it was the first. Year you, know no one
Speaker 5: can leave, after you, know because they all. Stay but
Speaker 5: you're gonna see something leaving already. Here you, know you
Speaker 5: Had ax freshman already leave In State kentucky kid already.
Speaker 3: Leave it's gonna. Be it's gonna, be you know What i'm.
Speaker 5: Saying and you can't knock, coaches you can't knock anything
Speaker 5: that is the layer of the land. Now and that's
Speaker 5: the way these kids and their parents. Think they're always
Speaker 5: looking for the next. Fix they don't want the. Truth
Speaker 5: they want people to tell them how good they. Are
Speaker 5: and they're thinking that the grass is green on the other,
Speaker 5: side where there's money, playing, coaching so on and so.
Speaker 5: Forth you, know there's just no state power. Anywhere and
Speaker 5: that's a prime example because cal actually everyone, thought if
Speaker 5: you're a basketball, person That arkansas didn't hit their stride
Speaker 5: Until Boogey flynn actually got hurt.
Speaker 1: Exactly this is the best of the Big bloon. Sider
Speaker 1: this is the best of the Big blue. Insider welcome
Speaker 1: back to The Big Blue. Sider joining us now on
Speaker 1: Our Celebrity highline is the guy we have chatted with many.
Speaker 1: Times you hear him On Sunday Morning Sports, Talk Anthony,
Speaker 1: white the FORMER uk running back who is one of
Speaker 1: the co host along With Larry vott In cast of.
Speaker 1: Hundreds it seems On Sunday Morning Sports, tack how are.
Speaker 3: You and B i'm doing pretty, good doing really.
Speaker 1: Good let's talk a little bit About uh, well first
Speaker 1: of all The Kentucky? Derby did you have the? WINNER
Speaker 1: i did not have the?
Speaker 3: WINNER i. WAS i guess it's kind OF i guess
Speaker 3: this kind of. Controversial now That Bob bathor was, BACK
Speaker 3: i was looking at some of his, horses And Larry
Speaker 3: vaux's close friend of, mine was going with with. Journalism
Speaker 3: SO i saw that we had a chance, there but
Speaker 3: mine was.
Speaker 4: The.
Speaker 3: One it was a gold chunk of, gold chunk of.
Speaker 3: Gold didn't have didn't didn't stand the chance, man but
Speaker 3: that WAS i just saw the name sounded, prey SO
Speaker 3: i went with dad at worse. That Uh, NO i
Speaker 3: didn't do, good BUT i do, know AND i do.
Speaker 3: NOW i think it's always tough to depict A derby.
Speaker 3: Horse my birthday Is may, first was Always derby, weekend
Speaker 3: so WHENEVER i, celebrated as Usually, derby it was always every.
Speaker 3: Weekend but when it rains the whole day and then
Speaker 3: it typically clears up right right before the.
Speaker 1: Race, Yep i've covered so Many derbys AND i can
Speaker 1: remember that. Happening it seems like it could pour all
Speaker 1: day and then for some Reate well we know why
Speaker 1: the racing gods allowed things to clear. Up but uh,
Speaker 1: YEAH i had. Journalism he was one of my two key.
Speaker 1: Horses the horses are in two three or the HORSES
Speaker 1: i keyed all my exotics on for the most, part
Speaker 1: had a couple of savers that hit the. Board but,
Speaker 1: YEAH i mean, sovereignty you. Know HE i said earlier
Speaker 1: he liked the, track he had won on the track,
Speaker 1: before but the fact that it was an off, track
Speaker 1: a sloppy, track and it scared me. Off but uh,
Speaker 1: MAN i love The, derby so you, KNOW i NEVER
Speaker 1: i never really, Complained and of course The derby always
Speaker 1: comes not long after spring. Practice raps. Up did you
Speaker 1: enjoy spring practice when you were? Playing?
Speaker 3: Uh, well you KNOW i had two different, coaches SO
Speaker 3: i can give you two different. Answers all, right go.
Speaker 3: Ahead Under Bill curry you, Know Bill Curry, man were.
Speaker 3: Full we were full. Pass we were rocking every, day,
Speaker 3: Yeah monday Through, Thursday, friday do a little prep and
Speaker 3: then you, know then the game was like a real. Game.
Speaker 3: Man we were rocking and. Socking the only person that
Speaker 3: couldn't get hit is Probably Philly Jack. Happins uh my
Speaker 3: time there And Tim, couch he was only there in
Speaker 3: one Year Under curry will Have, Mummy, man it was so, fun.
Speaker 3: Man you, know throughout the week we were in shorts
Speaker 3: and and, stuff and we knew we were gonna put
Speaker 3: up put up a show for the, fans put up
Speaker 3: about forty or fifty points because our office was was pretty.
Speaker 3: Unique so un to Have mommy was fun because it
Speaker 3: was an opportunity for the fans to see us fly
Speaker 3: around and do great. Things but, nah but in my first, years,
Speaker 3: man under that speed option Under Bill Curry, man it was,
Speaker 3: man it was it was like a. Game every day
Speaker 3: practice and the game was a. Game, yes, yeah during
Speaker 3: the season during the you, KNOW i get.
Speaker 1: THAT i get. That and the during the season we
Speaker 1: were allowed to come to practice back, THEN i get,
Speaker 1: That and mummy went like you said that it was
Speaker 1: almost past skelly and and thud when it came to
Speaker 1: defense and all that.
Speaker 3: Stuff, yeah, no and the so so if we, went
Speaker 3: if we went full to the ground in the regular,
Speaker 3: season spring was exact same. Thing they wanted to know
Speaker 3: who was gonna be ready in the fall and, yeah,
Speaker 3: man we we, Banged, yeah we banged around the whole. Frame.
Speaker 1: Man, well it was probably just as well then that
Speaker 1: you went from the heavy hitting Under curry to the
Speaker 1: lighter stuff Under. Mummy imagine if you'd flipped the script
Speaker 1: and you've been Doing mummy stuff and then you went
Speaker 1: to the heavy, hitting it would have been tougher to. Take.
Speaker 3: Right if you ever talked to Uh Tony, franklin who's running, Back,
Speaker 3: yeah remember he just got he just signed somewhere last.
Speaker 3: Year he was the one who said when he got,
Speaker 3: there him and How mummy them came. In he, SAID
Speaker 3: i was kind of, small, MAN i was about one
Speaker 3: hundred and eighty five, pounds and he was, like, MAN
Speaker 3: i never saw how they beat you all up all
Speaker 3: throughout the week and expect you to perform On. Saturday
Speaker 3: and that's, why you, know The mummy and especially as
Speaker 3: a running. Back Tony franklin was, like, MAN i want
Speaker 3: you to be. PRESS i want you to be fresh
Speaker 3: as possible On. Saturdays long as you know your. Assignment you,
Speaker 3: KNOW i got faith and you're gonna do what you're gonna.
Speaker 3: Do but there ain't no sense in beating you. Up
Speaker 3: flitz picked up OF uh nine on, seven which is inside,
Speaker 3: drill like it's a tough running and all. That just
Speaker 3: now just run, around be fresh man with thuds you
Speaker 3: here and there and make sure you know what you're.
Speaker 3: Doing but, no just being fresh and that and that
Speaker 3: really made me feel like that's why when you asked me,
Speaker 3: THAT i got a different answer because going to the
Speaker 3: season this. Hurts that hurts as opposed to going in there, like, shoot,
Speaker 3: MAN i ain't been hit. YET i want to see
Speaker 3: how LONG i can go through the season without being.
Speaker 1: HIT i hear.
Speaker 6: That.
Speaker 1: Well on the one, hand coaches like to say old
Speaker 1: school coaches like to, say you know you play the
Speaker 1: way you. Practice but then you know what's interesting Is
Speaker 1: mummy was was was criticized after he, left or really
Speaker 1: during his last season because the defense was so bad
Speaker 1: and we've talked about that. Before that Was mike made or,
Speaker 1: honestly just what he was doing nobody could figure, out
Speaker 1: and you, know getting fired or resigning under. Pressure but
Speaker 1: people criticize the fact that you guys use THE thud,
Speaker 1: policy which is hip it don't take to the. Ground
Speaker 1: and When guimo took, over who was kind of the
Speaker 1: Anti mummy in a lot of, ways he IMMEDIATELY i
Speaker 1: think you might have been gone by. Then he immediately
Speaker 1: said or had his team go to thud because he, Said,
Speaker 1: anthony if we take people to the, ground injuries will
Speaker 1: pile up and we're going to run out of. Players
Speaker 1: so it made, sense didn't.
Speaker 2: It?
Speaker 3: Oh absolutely. NO i wasn't there Under more's BUT i
Speaker 3: CAN i can pretty much assure that you know he
Speaker 3: ran THE nfl type. Practice now how THE nfl is
Speaker 3: get your spots really, quick make contacts so we know
Speaker 3: that you can get a good. Fit and that was
Speaker 3: and that was. IT i will tell you this, though
Speaker 3: if you talked to you, Know Jeffin nettecker and some
Speaker 3: of those, guys maybe Now marlon, McCree they did feel
Speaker 3: like not getting all that that tackling and all that
Speaker 3: hurt them On saturdays because when they got a position
Speaker 3: that thud that did not assimulate a game time. SITUATION
Speaker 3: i think they, felt, like you, know not not having that.
Speaker 3: OPPORTUNITY i could see.
Speaker 1: That but here's the other, Thing, anthony is it under
Speaker 1: Major how often were they in the right place at
Speaker 1: the right? Time it was so.
Speaker 3: Rare, yeah they call we call that. Defense they call
Speaker 3: that defense ninety nine point. Nine so if they if
Speaker 3: they they blitch ninety nine point nine the. Time and
Speaker 3: so if you get, there which is tough to do
Speaker 3: a lot of, times you may, whip which you leave
Speaker 3: everybody on the island one on. One and at this,
Speaker 3: level nobody's tackling anybody one on. ONE i, MEAN i
Speaker 3: don't care how good of a tackle you. ARE i
Speaker 3: don't think you're gonna tackle me one on. One and
Speaker 3: if you, DO i don't deserve to be a skilled
Speaker 3: player in the. Conference but, yeah that WAS i think,
Speaker 3: he like you, said he put people in terrible. Position
Speaker 3: we want they were in.
Speaker 1: Position, well fortunately those days are. Gone coming out of the,
Speaker 1: spring what were some of the reports you. GOT i
Speaker 1: don't know if you've got a chance to get over
Speaker 1: there at. All you are a working, Man but how
Speaker 1: do you feel about the way things are? Going? Right
Speaker 1: now as you know.
Speaker 3: It, WELL i don't really want, to, MAN i ain't
Speaker 3: really want to have this. Conversation i'll tell you. That,
Speaker 3: yeah you've kind of always questioned me off air on
Speaker 3: air about you, know THE i guess the CONFIDENCE i
Speaker 3: had in our. SQUAD i tell you this, game it
Speaker 3: ain't there this. Year, okay it ain't there this year
Speaker 3: for me AND. I but the one THING i do
Speaker 3: feel is that we're back to Old Mark stukes. Football
Speaker 3: we're back to blue. Collar we don't HAVE i don't
Speaker 3: think we got the players running the asylum. ANYMORE i
Speaker 3: don't think players are calling the. Shots so you, know
Speaker 3: you hear a lot of new names around on our
Speaker 3: squad now and that doesn't fit either way with. Me
Speaker 3: that's WHY i really don't have an answer for. YOU i,
Speaker 3: mean they have all new offensive. Line these guys haven't jailed.
Speaker 3: YET i think the running back, room which probably for
Speaker 3: the past six or seven years has been pretty. Strong
Speaker 3: uh we can plug and play their quarterback position for,
Speaker 3: again for about the four out of the last five
Speaker 3: years is a question on you know. Who we have a,
Speaker 3: quarterback brand new. Guy you, know they're, talented they're, uh
Speaker 3: have a lot of experience at that. Position Uh, so
Speaker 3: LIKE i said With Kyles, outa but everything starts WITH
Speaker 3: i was talking to AN espn reporter and they thought, That.
Speaker 3: Uh the question With kentucky is what's going on? Upfront
Speaker 3: so the quarterback may look, average may look extremely average
Speaker 3: because out of may look extremely average if he doesn't
Speaker 3: have any blocking up, front and that's where the team
Speaker 3: is gonna. Go the receiving room is gonna suffer from
Speaker 3: that running. Back they probably are do decent if the
Speaker 3: running but but if that offensive line, jails THEN i you,
Speaker 3: KNOW i think we got a lot of. Excitement so,
Speaker 3: uh and that's where all the questions were last. Year
Speaker 3: the quarterback rooms now in the office line, room AND
Speaker 3: i THINK i think they're still there right.
Speaker 1: Now so it's fair to say it's too soon to.
Speaker 1: Tell what do you? Think because you're you're you're a
Speaker 1: lot more skeptic having played this. Game you're a lot
Speaker 1: more skeptical than the average, fan aren't.
Speaker 3: You oh, Yeah i'm absolutely. Skeptical LIKE i, said even
Speaker 3: for at the quarterback, POSITION i thought a lot of
Speaker 3: things were going. ON i know our defensive front will be,
Speaker 3: well our defensive, BACKFIELD i think they'll they'll be able
Speaker 3: to hold their own lineback and. Corps we got a
Speaker 3: lot of new faces. There we had a lot of,
Speaker 3: attrition you, know due to the transfer, portal, right uh
Speaker 3: and stuff like. This And i'm Bd white is great
Speaker 3: to hide his. Weaknesses so if we do have weaknesses on,
Speaker 3: DEFENSE i Think Brad white can hide. Them, well you,
Speaker 3: know we can play in this. Conference but, yeah But i'm.
Speaker 3: Reserved i've got my position alerts UNTIL i see what
Speaker 3: those guys can do. UPFRONT i don't blame.
Speaker 1: You we're talking With Anthony, white Former kentucky running. Back
Speaker 1: he as a co host Of Sunday Morning Sports. Talking
Speaker 1: we'll come back and talk more, football but aunt be
Speaker 1: in just a minute here on The Big Boon sider
Speaker 1: six thirty W. L this is the best of The
Speaker 1: Big bloom And. Sider welcome. Back we're chatting With Anthony.
Speaker 1: White he is the co host Of Sunday Morning Sports
Speaker 1: talk here right here on six THIRTY. Wlap and just
Speaker 1: before the, break b was telling us about how skeptical
Speaker 1: he is right, now and you have earned that right
Speaker 1: obviously because of the way things have gone over the
Speaker 1: last few. YEARS i want to talk to you though
Speaker 1: about the old line because looking back on how things
Speaker 1: have been going to last three, seasons AND i think
Speaker 1: we've all tried to see things that weren't, there at
Speaker 1: least some of us. HAVE i don't put you in that,
Speaker 1: group because you're a harder sell on a lot of this,
Speaker 1: stuff having played both here and at the pro. Level
Speaker 1: BUT i think we were all expecting too much from
Speaker 1: that offensive. Line maybe not you, know the year After
Speaker 1: Will levis, left BUT i think we were overly. Optimistic
Speaker 1: AND i think when you get right down to a
Speaker 1: lot of the problems this team has had, now not
Speaker 1: pointing fingers at any one person in, particular it just
Speaker 1: wasn't the right. MIX i did talk To, fyi one
Speaker 1: of the staffers during spring, break and he was not
Speaker 1: THE o line, coach but he was, Impressed anthony with
Speaker 1: the athleticism on this. Group and to your point you
Speaker 1: talked about kind of getting back to That Mark stoop's
Speaker 1: style of. Play this guy said he believes that the
Speaker 1: old line could start looking again like A John SCHLARMAN o,
Speaker 1: line you know WHAT i, Mean.
Speaker 3: And that would be and that would be the best
Speaker 3: thing that can happen for. Us and when we line
Speaker 3: up Against, toledo IF i could see that or just
Speaker 3: a similars of AND i know That aledo shouldn't put
Speaker 3: up as much of a fight as THE sec is
Speaker 3: gonna put, up but IF i could see, that that will.
Speaker 3: HELP i was talking To Big. Dog we talked To
Speaker 3: Big dog On sunday, morning AND i asked him about.
Speaker 3: UH i asked him about our offense line and the
Speaker 3: center just just got draft or they got that got
Speaker 3: signed to The, texans and he said That Cock, wolford, Yeah,
Speaker 3: Eli Eli cox being signed and he thought That, yenser you,
Speaker 3: know knew What eli had had to take a risk on. Him,
Speaker 3: Said eli is doing a good job as The. TEXAS i,
Speaker 3: ASKED i asked him this completely, honest and he's always
Speaker 3: been honest with. ME i, Said so we got rid Of,
Speaker 3: genser who was at The Houston. Texans who's the better
Speaker 3: who ended up better on the. Deal so we Fired
Speaker 3: genser and we brought back the old offensive line coach
Speaker 3: And wolford that was At. Alabama and besides the panel
Speaker 3: that was On sunday, morning they thought that maybe The
Speaker 3: texans got the better end of the. Deal so that
Speaker 3: really didn't make any sense to. Me that really didn't
Speaker 3: make any sense to. Me so when you asked me,
Speaker 3: WHO i, uh you asked me about WHO i think
Speaker 3: the office line is going. TO i think if he
Speaker 3: gets back to, resembling if he gives that Resemblance, SLARMAN
Speaker 3: i think you have a chance Because slarmer would play
Speaker 3: eight or office. Line so every year you have two
Speaker 3: or three linemen who have some, experience and that every
Speaker 3: year you just got continuity on the office. Line this
Speaker 3: year we have all transferred. Lineman we GOT i Mean
Speaker 3: burton is the only one that hasn't transferred. There we
Speaker 3: Got farmers transfer in Bron Pete, washlager those, guys and
Speaker 3: all those guys have never played. Before Maybe burton And
Speaker 3: farmer just a tas. It and if they don't, jail
Speaker 3: we don't know we're gonna get. Now they could completely.
Speaker 3: Jail they could completely, jail And wolfer can have those
Speaker 3: guys rotating in in the slarm and fashion where everybody's staying,
Speaker 3: continuity nobody's getting, tired everybody has fresh, legs AND i
Speaker 3: think that things can go. Well BUT i think you
Speaker 3: hit the nail on the. HEAD i do think we
Speaker 3: got to get back to the Old, slarman Way. Man
Speaker 3: we're keeping these games, fresh you, know you, know having
Speaker 3: some younger guys getting in their mixes up so the
Speaker 3: older guy can can be. Fresh and also it helps
Speaker 3: the continuity in the. Future going to the portal every
Speaker 3: year to get office lineman is not the way. GAVE
Speaker 3: i tell, you if a, team whether there's money involved,
Speaker 3: now but if a team lets a good left tackle
Speaker 3: or great offense lineman, go you may not have been
Speaker 3: their best offensive. Linemen, yeah which means you could come
Speaker 3: here and be our. Best but that means that we
Speaker 3: probably had problems from them. Beginning SO i DON'T i
Speaker 3: don't think it's a bad thing that we hit the
Speaker 3: portal to get a lot of players this, year BUT
Speaker 3: i think it leaves a lot of. Uncertainty And i've
Speaker 3: been optimistic in the past just BECAUSE i know How
Speaker 3: stuke say, is And stukes will admit to you that
Speaker 3: he he may have lost vision a little. Bit let the,
Speaker 3: guys you, know run the locker room a little, bit
Speaker 3: not be where they were supposed to, be not put
Speaker 3: in the work they were supposed to off off the.
Speaker 3: Field So i'm gonna RESERVE i really, Internally i'm probably
Speaker 3: more optimistic now BECAUSE i know you've got guys who
Speaker 3: wants to, play who's gonna, listen who's gonna be, there
Speaker 3: who wants to prove they want to they want to
Speaker 3: wear the blue and. White BUT i ain't confident issue
Speaker 3: to put to put my, Words so put my words.
Speaker 1: ONE i don't blame you because the proof's not been
Speaker 1: in the pudding over the last few. Years we're talking
Speaker 1: To Anthony, white Former kentucky running back down the coast
Speaker 1: Of Sunday morning Sports. Talk you talked about how bringing
Speaker 1: in old linemen consistently through the portal is not necessarily
Speaker 1: a great recipe for, success and clearly you need to
Speaker 1: develop that chemistry that comes with a great old. Line
Speaker 1: harder to do these days the way players are moving.
Speaker 1: Around BUT i also have a, Question, anthony do you
Speaker 1: Think kentucky is ever going to be? Able maybe they
Speaker 1: can do this With Cutter, bowley if not this, year next,
Speaker 1: year can they break the cycle of having to go
Speaker 1: to the portal almost every year every other year for
Speaker 1: a starting, quarterback not just A, qb but a starter
Speaker 1: because this cycle began When Drew barker went down injured
Speaker 1: during the. YEAR i think it was during the twenty sixteen,
Speaker 1: season you, know crying out a. Lot it was eight
Speaker 1: years ago And Stephen johnson did a remarkable. Job Terry
Speaker 1: wilson came, in he held a job for a while
Speaker 1: longer than. Most but when can they just start developing
Speaker 1: their own qbs? Again you know WHAT i?
Speaker 3: MEAN i think you're absolutely right on that as. WELL
Speaker 3: i don't think you can for you to make and
Speaker 3: this is not a knock On stoops at, all to
Speaker 3: make nine almost ten million dollars a year to coach
Speaker 3: a football, team and the head of the snake is
Speaker 3: uncertain every year that nobody hires a NEW ceo every.
Speaker 3: Year nobody hires a general manager every year at a successful.
Speaker 3: Business so the fact that you, know you're not developing these,
Speaker 3: guys bringing them through the, rank and then have somebody
Speaker 3: you know in the corridor, waiting you, know to take
Speaker 3: over the next. Year are you every barring injury or
Speaker 3: just you, know something happens in an off, season which
Speaker 3: happens a couple of, times like right before the season
Speaker 3: starts in the, summer somebody goes. Down, man you maybe
Speaker 3: it hit the, portal but living in the, portal, man
Speaker 3: that got to be a scary. Thing it ain't scary
Speaker 3: for me or you because that's a little MONEY i. Make,
Speaker 3: man they can find Another Anthony White. Indy they to
Speaker 3: do my. Job but if you're a ten million dollar coach,
Speaker 3: man you have to you have to be fighting your
Speaker 3: fingernails Like Lebron, james knowing that, MAN i got a new.
Speaker 3: GUY i don't know how he's gonna jail with the.
Speaker 3: SYSTEM i don't know how in the jail with the
Speaker 3: players in the locker. Room and you do that every.
Speaker 3: Year that's. Karried now if you bring a you bring
Speaker 3: A Tim couch in as a, freshman you get him
Speaker 3: beat up in the. Swamp But Tim couch is still
Speaker 3: a dude to. Practice he still deliver the throws you
Speaker 3: bring how money?
Speaker 5: In?
Speaker 3: Now you sophomore? Year, hi are we doing? Great junior?
Speaker 3: Year A heisman candidate because you knew what you? Had
Speaker 3: he the, system, fit he developing the, system got better
Speaker 3: at the. System and when he, leaves what happens? Next
Speaker 3: you Got Dusty. Bonner Dusty bonner knows the. System he
Speaker 3: sat behind. Him here we go and you, so, UH
Speaker 3: i think you had that on the. Head you might
Speaker 3: need To you don't need to be talking to. Me
Speaker 3: you need to be sitting down talking To stoops and
Speaker 3: you get him understand that and you develop you of. Sophomore,
Speaker 3: man you got three years to be comfortable at least,
Speaker 3: uh you, know, uh be comfortable with your paycheck coming
Speaker 3: in for another three.
Speaker 1: YEARS i know That stoops would obviously much rather have
Speaker 1: a quarterback who is. Well, again they thought they had
Speaker 1: it And Drew barker he was going to be the.
Speaker 1: Guy you, know Say sad as a freshman played a
Speaker 1: little bit but got, hurt but he was supposed to
Speaker 1: be the guy for the next three, years which enabled
Speaker 1: them to recruit in theory and develop depth at that, position,
Speaker 1: which as you, know is not easy at THE qb.
Speaker 3: Spot, YEAH i don't want to throw anybody under the
Speaker 3: bus or you, know throw, anyway because it's tough at that. Level,
Speaker 3: man it is, tough and quarterback is probably the toughest
Speaker 3: position because you have to know where everybody's. At you
Speaker 3: got to process a lot of. Things you can't dictate
Speaker 3: where the heat is coming. From you can't dictate a
Speaker 3: lot of. Things but you rely on Every you rely
Speaker 3: on ten other people and cannot dictate what the other
Speaker 3: eleven people are doing. It you got to process and stuff.
Speaker 3: Quickly BUT i DON'T i don't think we really had anybody.
Speaker 3: Here maybe uh uh maybe uh, oh why skipping my?
Speaker 3: Name are skipping? Me the guy that left here to
Speaker 3: go to The, Rams liam The officer Of court and
Speaker 3: Theam cohen if he maybe he maybe he Developed, will
Speaker 3: but he are he had a relationship With Will, levits
Speaker 3: so Possibly, Liam BUT i don't think he's really done
Speaker 3: a great job of finding someone here to develop our
Speaker 3: quarterback to the young. Ones and we just happened to
Speaker 3: land On will Because will could throw the ball and
Speaker 3: dayn their ninety yards and you Got Wandille. Robinson so,
Speaker 3: YEAH i think the first thing he may do And
Speaker 3: bush maybe That, bush maybe that guy that can develop the.
Speaker 3: Quarterback we haven't really seen that. Yet but maybe that's
Speaker 3: our next, focus bringing in the top tier quarterback. Coach
Speaker 3: BUT i think the tough part is doing go ahead
Speaker 3: just because.
Speaker 1: Say but you know what that circle says right back
Speaker 1: to the first thing we talked About, anthony and that
Speaker 1: was an old. LINE i Mean Will ravis's second, year
Speaker 1: those guys that protected him the year, before four of
Speaker 1: them were IN nfl. Camps he had handed off to
Speaker 1: AN nfl back In benny as you, said he'd been
Speaker 1: throwing to AN nfl wide out or split it a slot.
Speaker 1: Back And Wandale robinson now he's got a NEW oc
Speaker 1: and won't let him, scramble and an old line under
Speaker 1: construction he's running, away wouldn't run for his life because
Speaker 1: it wouldn't let. Him so end up getting killed back
Speaker 1: there and ended up injured most of the. Years SO
Speaker 1: i don't. Know it's a vicious. Circle but they just
Speaker 1: got to power through, it don't.
Speaker 3: They, yeah AND i AND i got faced on, Them
Speaker 3: LIKE i, SAID i think we got a lot hungrier.
Speaker 3: Guys and we talked about this for probably the past
Speaker 3: three or four. Years, man with the with the implementation
Speaker 3: of the transport portal and N i l you, know
Speaker 3: it's tough to re recruit, guys have guys stay. Committed
Speaker 3: when guys are making more knowledge that they're gonna make
Speaker 3: it the next, level just like the women the women's
Speaker 3: basketball game is going on to the top. Tier women
Speaker 3: UH W nba girls are making lesson they were in.
Speaker 3: College so you, know when they when they're making more
Speaker 3: than the, coaches it's tough to motivate. Him it's tough
Speaker 3: for them to stay. Motivated BUT i Think stops kind
Speaker 3: of really understands hold these guys. Accountable and the biggest thing,
Speaker 3: is which you, know one of the coaches friend of,
Speaker 3: Mine i'm friends with big dogs as, well that they
Speaker 3: have to know that WHEN i line up next to
Speaker 3: the other ten players off of the defense special, teams
Speaker 3: that you got to do your. Job someone can get. Hurt,
Speaker 3: yep you know if you're. Not so everybody want to
Speaker 3: be out there for a counter. Cast but when someone's
Speaker 3: making say eight hundred thousand dollars a year and next
Speaker 3: to somebody who's making one hundred or fifty thousand dollars
Speaker 3: and they feel they're more, ENTITLED i. Don't those things
Speaker 3: are real things that are going on gay AND i
Speaker 3: think we got rid of a lot of. THAT i
Speaker 3: think itself in the mirror made a lot of the
Speaker 3: players look at stuff in the. Mirror and that's why
Speaker 3: when the fans get upset and so and so, left
Speaker 3: so and so Lest, yeah well they weren't buying into
Speaker 3: What stups and the staff are trying to. DO i
Speaker 3: feel more that's why a lot of them. Less So
Speaker 3: i'm really agent to see when we get back to
Speaker 3: just having blue collar guys going out there committed to
Speaker 3: The blue and. White i'm just kind of curious to
Speaker 3: see what the products is going to.
Speaker 1: Be sounds like a guy From cleveland who wore the
Speaker 1: blue and. White and we will find out more about
Speaker 1: What Anthony white has to say as the season gets
Speaker 1: closer and as it gets, underway AND b thank you as.
Speaker 1: Always you can listen On Sunday Morning Sports talk For
Speaker 1: Anthony white and it's always. Entertaining each. Week you guys
Speaker 1: kind of wrap up the week and then look, ahead you,
Speaker 1: know just talk, football but you can also hear them
Speaker 1: discuss basketball and the like and tell everybody how to
Speaker 1: reach you On twitter OR.
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Speaker 1: Right we're Big Van hiles fans over here as. Well
Speaker 1: M B i do appreciate the, time, brother thank you so.
Speaker 3: MUCH i appreciate.
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