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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to the Big blueing Sider. Dick Gabriel with you

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<v Speaker 1>on a Memorial Day Monday. Hope you're having a great

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<v Speaker 1>weekend tonight it will be the best of the Big

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<v Speaker 1>Blue Insider. But we're going to talk Kentucky baseball first

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<v Speaker 1>in this opening sequence because the Wildcats got in. If

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<v Speaker 1>you haven't heard yet, you probably have if you're a

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<v Speaker 1>Kentucky baseball fan. But Kentucky basically slips in to the

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<v Speaker 1>College Baseball Tournament. Although you might have thought the Wildcats

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<v Speaker 1>would have been one of the last four in, but

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<v Speaker 1>if you saw the selection show today, that's not the case.

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<v Speaker 1>Strength of schedule and RPI came up big for the Wildcats.

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<v Speaker 1>They played a tough schedule and not that this mattered

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<v Speaker 1>to the committee. Maybe it did, but keep in mind

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<v Speaker 1>that the Kentucky team that got to the College World

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<v Speaker 1>Series last year, basically the entire starting elements moved on.

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<v Speaker 1>Seven of the eight position regular position players moved on,

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<v Speaker 1>the entire weekend rotation, the top two relievers. Nick Benngeone

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<v Speaker 1>and his staff had to replace all of them. And

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<v Speaker 1>the Wildcats had their ups and downs this year. As

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<v Speaker 1>you know, they won twenty nine games. They led in

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<v Speaker 1>twenty eight of the thirty one SEC games they played,

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<v Speaker 1>including one SEC tournament game, and going into that last

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<v Speaker 1>weekend at Vanderbilt. This is what's fascinating about what happened

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<v Speaker 1>this year. That weekend turned college baseball, I won't say

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<v Speaker 1>upside down, but had a profound effect on what happened

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<v Speaker 1>with this tournament draw because Kentucky could have swept Wildcats

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<v Speaker 1>took leads into the last Vandy at bat Commodore's got

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<v Speaker 1>two walk off home runs in the first two games.

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<v Speaker 1>Wildcats led three to nothing in game three and blew

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<v Speaker 1>that lead, couldn't hang on down in Nashville. So Vandy sweeps.

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<v Speaker 1>Vandy ends up the overall number one seed in this tournament.

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<v Speaker 1>So imagine if Kentucky had finished up two or three

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<v Speaker 1>of those wins, it clearly I think would have kept

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<v Speaker 1>Vandy from being the overall number one seed. Think the

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<v Speaker 1>doors would have gotten in. Of course, they've gone nineteen

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<v Speaker 1>straight years now, that's the longest current streak. They're forty

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<v Speaker 1>two and sixteen, and they are the overall number one seed.

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<v Speaker 1>They won the SEC tournament, gave up only three runs

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<v Speaker 1>in the entire tournament. Now think about that down and

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<v Speaker 1>Hoover in the SEC Tournament in the best league in America.

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<v Speaker 1>Vandy gave up a total of three runs, but in

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<v Speaker 1>the weekend against Kentucky gave up nearly twenty runs and

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<v Speaker 1>the Wildcats just couldn't hold on. But that weekend we

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<v Speaker 1>thought might have cost Kentucky, might have kept the Wildcats

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<v Speaker 1>out of the two tournament. But as you know by now,

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<v Speaker 1>they're going to Clemson. Clemson is the host with forty

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<v Speaker 1>four wins. Wildcats will take on West Virginia, the Big

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<v Speaker 1>twelve regular season champ. West Virginia has played here in

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<v Speaker 1>lexingon in an nca regional. This is a fourth regional

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<v Speaker 1>appearance for the Wildcats under Nick Menje, one third in

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<v Speaker 1>a row for the Wildcats. First time in UK history,

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<v Speaker 1>the Wildcats have gone to three straight NCAA Baseball tournaments.

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<v Speaker 1>Ben Zione got him there in twenty seventeen, his first

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<v Speaker 1>year as the UK head coach, and then of course

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<v Speaker 1>he to the last three seasons. Now, so the Wildcats

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<v Speaker 1>will take on West Virginia and Clemson will play USC Upstate,

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<v Speaker 1>and then we'll see what happens after that, and if

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<v Speaker 1>Kentucky plays the way it did against Oklahoma in sweeping ou.

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<v Speaker 1>If Kentucky plays the way it did against Tennessee in Knoxville,

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<v Speaker 1>taking two out of three from the volunteers, and the

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<v Speaker 1>Wildcats could move on. If they win, they likely would

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<v Speaker 1>have to go back to Baton Rouge. That's where they

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<v Speaker 1>played a couple of years ago against Paul Skeins and

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<v Speaker 1>Dylan Cruz against the eventual national champion. But hey, they'd

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<v Speaker 1>be okay with that, wouldn't they, Because they're in. And

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<v Speaker 1>as Sam Newton used to say, you can play your

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<v Speaker 1>way out of a bad seed. He was talking about

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<v Speaker 1>the basketball tournament, but it holds up here as well.

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<v Speaker 1>You can play your way out of a bad seed,

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<v Speaker 1>but you can't play your way into the tournament. And

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<v Speaker 1>the Wildcats are in, and we'll talk more about it

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<v Speaker 1>tomorrow night on the show and break down the tournament field.

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<v Speaker 1>But we're gonna take a break, and coming up next,

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<v Speaker 1>we hear from Mark Pope here on the Best of

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<v Speaker 1>the Big Boo Insider, going back to the conversation he

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<v Speaker 1>had with John Rostein of CBS Sports. A little bit

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<v Speaker 1>later on Marion Haskins on the late and great Larry

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<v Speaker 1>Johnson player from Sean Woods, the unforgettable guard later in

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<v Speaker 1>the show and former football wildcaty Anthony White. That's all

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<v Speaker 1>I had on the Best of the Big Blue Insider

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<v Speaker 1>here on Memorial Day on six thirty WLAP. Welcome back

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<v Speaker 1>to the Best of the Big Blue Insider. Dick Gabriel

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<v Speaker 1>with you. Here's part of the show we did first

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<v Speaker 1>of the month, right after Mark Pope went on a

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<v Speaker 1>national podcast. We got to talk about Mark Pope and

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<v Speaker 1>John Rostein the podcast that Rostein produced and aired, and

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<v Speaker 1>it's on YouTube if you want to go back and

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<v Speaker 1>watch and listen to the whole thing if you haven't already.

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<v Speaker 1>The Internet has been swamped with comments and clips and

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<v Speaker 1>we're going to share some with you now. Rostein was

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<v Speaker 1>on with Tom Leachs this morning. Been trying to get

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<v Speaker 1>him on my show. He's been so busy that he's

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<v Speaker 1>not been able to accommodate me. He was able to

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<v Speaker 1>jump on, but Tom a little bit first thing this morning,

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<v Speaker 1>but he had a great interview I thought with Pope

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<v Speaker 1>and Mark of course as always so excited. And Rosstein

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<v Speaker 1>began his podcast by just basically doing a monologue for

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<v Speaker 1>about twenty minutes. But one of the things he touched

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<v Speaker 1>on was how, yes, the NIL and the portal have

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<v Speaker 1>kind of turned sports upside down, there's no question. But

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<v Speaker 1>he basically told the same line that most of us have.

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<v Speaker 1>I think you probably have too if you're a college

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<v Speaker 1>sports fan, in that NIL has really really jumbled college athletics.

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<v Speaker 1>But it's not necessarily a bad thing, because it's only

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<v Speaker 1>fair now that the players get to share and the riches,

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<v Speaker 1>and yes, some of these numbers are off the charts

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<v Speaker 1>and the way the pendulum swings, and it'll swing back

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<v Speaker 1>the other way. But what is really turn this thing

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<v Speaker 1>upside down and inside out is the portal. And I

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<v Speaker 1>do think everybody agrees, probably with the exception of a

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<v Speaker 1>handful of players, that you ought to be allowed to

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<v Speaker 1>transfer once, then after that you got to sit out

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<v Speaker 1>of here. The people who would disagree are perhaps coaches

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<v Speaker 1>who are welcoming a player they might need who's already

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<v Speaker 1>been at three schools, and the coach is willing to

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<v Speaker 1>overlook whatever problems the kid might have had, And of

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<v Speaker 1>course the players who are bouncing from school to school

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<v Speaker 1>to school, sometimes taking money with them without even playing,

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<v Speaker 1>but oftentimes usually trying to find a spot where they'll

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<v Speaker 1>better fit in because they're not patient at all. So

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<v Speaker 1>that in mind. One of Rostein's first questions to Mark

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<v Speaker 1>Pope was about being a head coach into today's climate.

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<v Speaker 2>In some ways, the path forward continues to get murkier

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<v Speaker 2>and murkier, And so I think where we are is

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<v Speaker 2>I think we're getting bolder and boulder as we push forward.

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<v Speaker 2>It's you see, you see all these changes. It's just

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<v Speaker 2>this field that's ripe full of opportunity and we're trying

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<v Speaker 2>to seize on it every single moment.

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<v Speaker 1>What is it like to be a head coach in

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<v Speaker 1>this climate?

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<v Speaker 3>It is there, it is.

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<v Speaker 2>I love it actually because it tests you in every way.

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<v Speaker 2>It challenges you every way. Uh you know, you're you're

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<v Speaker 2>taking in data and information at such an amazing clip,

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<v Speaker 2>and you have to model so many different possible scenarios.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, as we as we kind of see you're

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<v Speaker 2>waiting on this settlement to kind of get some verdict

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<v Speaker 2>on the settlement, you could see the trajectory of college

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<v Speaker 2>athletics and college basketball going in a dozen different directions.

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<v Speaker 2>You kind of got to model out all of those

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<v Speaker 2>in scenarios that fit your program in your universe. And

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<v Speaker 2>so the challenge involved in that is is never ending,

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<v Speaker 2>and it's like I said, it's full of opportunity now.

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<v Speaker 1>As head coaches go. Mark Pope is on the younger side,

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<v Speaker 1>of course, the same profession that has seen guys like

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<v Speaker 1>Jay Wright and Nick Saban, guys who have won their championships,

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<v Speaker 1>done their work. They've stepped away Roy Williams, who again

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<v Speaker 1>had had a great career and a little bit older

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<v Speaker 1>than Mark Pope. But Mark excited about the opportunities first

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<v Speaker 1>of all to be a Kentucky. Secondly to take advantage

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<v Speaker 1>of information, the data he likes, and build a team.

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<v Speaker 1>He's got a good recruiting class coming in, he's got

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<v Speaker 1>a good portal group coming in, and he's got talented

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<v Speaker 1>second year guys. You should listen to the podcast to

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<v Speaker 1>get the full rundown on what he has to say

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<v Speaker 1>about the guys coming back, Brandon Garrison and take O Way,

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<v Speaker 1>Trent Noah. But he is excited, and it's to me

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<v Speaker 1>it's an interesting reason he's so excited about his second

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<v Speaker 1>year guys.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, like you said, I think it's a key at

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<v Speaker 2>being success and there's nothing like getting older with your

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<v Speaker 2>own guys, right. And the second thing is my guys traditionally,

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<v Speaker 2>my guy's second year take a massive leap because you know,

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<v Speaker 2>we're such a rebased offense and in parts defense, where

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<v Speaker 2>our guys are the deciders on the floor, they're not

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<v Speaker 2>looking over at me. We coach them to be capable

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<v Speaker 2>of making decisions on the court, so they spend very

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<v Speaker 2>little time looking over me. We coach them to coach

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<v Speaker 2>each other and communicate with each other. And so with

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<v Speaker 2>a year under your belt, now now you're coming in

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<v Speaker 2>not to learn the game or do the game, but

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<v Speaker 2>you come in actually starting to play the game and

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<v Speaker 2>trick up the game and like use all these actions

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<v Speaker 2>to manipulate them in creative ways, and that's where the

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<v Speaker 2>game gets incredibly fun. So he set the year guys

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<v Speaker 2>going to be really key for.

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<v Speaker 1>Us, especially if he gets oh way back. I suspect

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<v Speaker 1>he will, and as Mark said otega Oway, there's a

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<v Speaker 1>pretty good chance he'll be the preseason SEC Player of

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<v Speaker 1>the Year coming back. But he's going to find out

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<v Speaker 1>from the league at the very least what he needs

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<v Speaker 1>to do to improve his game, get himself ready for

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<v Speaker 1>the draft. And again, look at Antonio Reeves, look what

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<v Speaker 1>it did for him. He came back almost like a

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<v Speaker 1>different player, building on what he could do well and

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<v Speaker 1>then getting better. Improved his handle, improved his defense, improved

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<v Speaker 1>his ability to drive and score instead of just standing

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<v Speaker 1>out there shooting three pointers away could do the same thing.

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<v Speaker 1>Ross team basically had Mark go down the entire roster,

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<v Speaker 1>and Pope was not shy about saying that, yeah, this

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<v Speaker 1>Kentucky team will be capable if things break right of

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<v Speaker 1>winning a national championship.

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<v Speaker 4>We can get it done.

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<v Speaker 2>Now, there's a lot of teams that can get it done.

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<v Speaker 2>But if we do this right with the right guys,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, we can get this done. And that's our job.

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<v Speaker 2>That's what we're supposed to do. That's the standard here

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<v Speaker 2>and nothing less as acceptable.

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<v Speaker 5>But in terms of the rotation, how many guys do

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<v Speaker 5>you think you're gonna be able to play this? I'd

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<v Speaker 5>like to play them all.

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<v Speaker 2>So I have twelve guys right now, So I have

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<v Speaker 2>twelve guys that come help us. We're actually gonna try

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<v Speaker 2>and round out this roster. I'm actually scouring the planet

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<v Speaker 2>right now for guys that would fit in as maybe

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<v Speaker 2>a red shirt guy that would kill it in practice,

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<v Speaker 2>or maybe a last year of your career guy that

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<v Speaker 2>wants to come here and put on this one of

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<v Speaker 2>one jersey and be a part of this. So we

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<v Speaker 2>need to add a couple more pieces. But right now

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<v Speaker 1>I hope people set up and took notice when he

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<v Speaker 1>you can't do that, but you can to a degree.

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<v Speaker 1>But it was interesting to me how people got really

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<v Speaker 1>not see him do what Caliperi and a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>other coaches do, and that's whittle it down to eight.

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<v Speaker 1>And again, cali Peri did that because John wooden't suggested it.

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<v Speaker 1>But Mark Pope coaches a different style than wouldn't and

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<v Speaker 1>Caliperi than a lot of guys. So don't expect to

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<v Speaker 1>see a quote unquote substitution pattern beyond the very basics

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<v Speaker 1>for Mark Pope. People need to lose that terminology substitution pattern.

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<v Speaker 1>Why do you want that? Because if you if you

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<v Speaker 1>can recognize the pattern, so can the other guys. I say,

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<v Speaker 1>you sub the way the game demands, the way opposing

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<v Speaker 1>personnel demands. That's how you want to guy a sub.

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<v Speaker 1>And if you can't figure it out, that's because you

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<v Speaker 1>haven't been at practice, you haven't taken apart the game plan,

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<v Speaker 1>you haven't done the scout. We can all sit back

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<v Speaker 1>and see how it works. But if you're trying to

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<v Speaker 1>in right now. Remember, Mark Pope is all about data.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't have it, You don't have it, and he's

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<v Speaker 1>collecting data while the game's going on. So just be

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<v Speaker 1>by the way, Rosstein asked Pope about the schedule, and

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<v Speaker 1>Pope said their son. He basically said, there's something going on,

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<v Speaker 1>but he couldn't talk about it. What it probably was

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<v Speaker 1>was the fact that Kentucky will place Saint John's in

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<v Speaker 1>the CBS Sports Classic. The Red Storm will replace UCLA

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<v Speaker 1>in the annual event. So Mark Pope versus Rick Bettino

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<v Speaker 1>in the CBS Sports Classic. That's according to the Saint

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<v Speaker 1>On the other side, North Carolina and Ohio State. On

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<v Speaker 1>this Memorial Day, you're listening to the best of the

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<v Speaker 1>Big Blue Insider. Welcome back to the best of the

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<v Speaker 1>Big Blue Insider on this Memorial Day. Here's part of

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<v Speaker 1>a show we taped on the Monday after the Kentucky derby.

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<v Speaker 1>We talked horses and more from head coach Mark Pope.

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<v Speaker 1>I will tell you I came out ahead slightly on

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<v Speaker 1>the weekend. I did not hit any of the big

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<v Speaker 1>tickets I had bet on the Derby because I took

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<v Speaker 1>journalism and Baeza they ran two three. I had sovereignty

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<v Speaker 1>kicking myself, of course, as I do every year that

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<v Speaker 1>I don't win when I feel like maybe I missed something,

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<v Speaker 1>and in this situation it was this sovereignty had run

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<v Speaker 1>on the Derby track, on Churchill Down's track, and ordinarily

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<v Speaker 1>that's one of my favorite handicapping tools, but I was

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<v Speaker 1>scared away by the fact that it was a sloppy track.

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<v Speaker 1>And right now we don't know yet as we speak,

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<v Speaker 1>as we record, is Bill Mott and are the handlers,

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<v Speaker 1>the connections going to run the horse into Preakness? And

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<v Speaker 1>they always say the same thing, We'll see how they

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<v Speaker 1>come back, We'll see what the horse tells us, blah

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<v Speaker 1>blah blah, which is smart because I got to be healthy.

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<v Speaker 1>But Mott made the reference to the business side of things,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's all the business. I get that. But here's

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<v Speaker 1>the guy who's been in the game forever and is

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<v Speaker 1>based here Lexington, Louisville, and he is looking down the

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<v Speaker 1>road at races down the road, at breeding things like that.

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<v Speaker 1>So there are too many horses that rush their way

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<v Speaker 1>through the Triple Crown races and it affects them for

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<v Speaker 1>the rest of their career, which means it affects their

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<v Speaker 1>breeding value. So I'm not going to be stunned if

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<v Speaker 1>Bill Mott doesn't run the horse and the Preakness, and

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<v Speaker 1>the owners don't run the horse and the Preakness, but

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<v Speaker 1>it's gonna be unfortunate if they don't, because look, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>a racing fan. We need interest, we need fans, we

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<v Speaker 1>need eyeballs. It helps you got a young influencer perhaps

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<v Speaker 1>bringing people to the sport. But there's nothing better than

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<v Speaker 1>a cold going for the Triple Crown. Go back and

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<v Speaker 1>look at the attendance figures at the Belmont. When you've

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<v Speaker 1>one of the year that you don't, they'll get a

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<v Speaker 1>decent crowd. You got a Triple Crown potential. It's awesome.

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<v Speaker 1>So we'll keep track on that for you. And if

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<v Speaker 1>you're a racing fan, you will too. And one of

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<v Speaker 1>the people working the Derby. I didn't get a chance

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<v Speaker 1>to had a slight injury that prevented me from being there.

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<v Speaker 1>But a guy who've played a role that I have

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<v Speaker 1>played several times through the years for radio coverage is

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<v Speaker 1>our man Billy Rutledge. And if you follow Billy, you

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<v Speaker 1>saw he posted an interview. He called it my interview

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<v Speaker 1>with Derby winning jockey Junior Alvarado. Well, in full disclosure,

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<v Speaker 1>this happened during the day prior to the race, But

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<v Speaker 1>that's part of the job as the paddock reporter for

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<v Speaker 1>radio coverage keyed by WHAS and carried on WLAP, And

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<v Speaker 1>again I've done it several times. Your job is to

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<v Speaker 1>go interview the writers right after a race that perhaps

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<v Speaker 1>chance to talk to him a little bit about strategy.

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<v Speaker 1>And Billy had a chance early in the day to

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<v Speaker 1>bit about what he expected from Derby one fifty one.

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<v Speaker 6>You know, I'm very confident with him. You know, I

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<v Speaker 6>think we're expecting a very good race out of him.

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<v Speaker 6>You know, he's been training very well here. I think,

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<v Speaker 6>we have enough course going into the derby. And I think,

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<v Speaker 6>you know, we just did that and hopefully, you know,

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<v Speaker 6>going to be very tough to get bit.

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<v Speaker 1>And he was right Junior Alvarado talking to Billy Rutledge

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<v Speaker 1>a couple of the and he was right, Junior Ralvarado

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<v Speaker 1>talking to Billy Rutlands two or three hours prior to

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<v Speaker 1>the Kentucky Derby that Alvarado won with a great ride

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<v Speaker 1>on sovereignty. So that was the biggest news over the

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<v Speaker 1>weekend if you're racing fan, casual or otherwise, if you're

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<v Speaker 1>simply not interested, and that's all well and good. There

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<v Speaker 1>is news about Mark Pope's roster. Rhys Potter, seven to

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<v Speaker 1>one center, who spent the last couple of years at

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<v Speaker 1>Miami of Ohio, has decided to come through the portal

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<v Speaker 1>and join the Wildcats. Played in fifty six games over

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<v Speaker 1>the last couple of seasons for the RedHawks, came off

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<v Speaker 1>the bench six and a half points, three and a

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<v Speaker 1>half rebounds. Pope kind of talked about this when he

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<v Speaker 1>talked to John Rostein. Plus, it's official now about the

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<v Speaker 1>big man coming in from Croatia. We've known about it

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<v Speaker 1>for a little while, but UK couldn't say anything about

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<v Speaker 1>it until he signed. And now. Andrea Yeleovich, one of

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<v Speaker 1>the top prospects coming out of Europe, is a Kentucky Wildcat.

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<v Speaker 1>He signed earlier today, or at least they got his paperwork.

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<v Speaker 1>Six' eleven eleven points a, game seven and a half

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<v Speaker 1>rebounds in The Adriatic league For mega Super, bet and

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<v Speaker 1>they also list him as one and a half a

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<v Speaker 1>sis per. Game he's gonna have to go something to

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<v Speaker 1>be a passer as effective as A Mari, williams, who

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<v Speaker 1>by the, way was invited to THE G league. Camp

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<v Speaker 1>So mari's got a chance to play for pay in this.

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<v Speaker 1>Country he could play overseas right, now but he's better

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<v Speaker 1>off getting a shot at THE G, league maybe working

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<v Speaker 1>a two way with AN nba team Like sheboe. Has

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<v Speaker 1>Although i'm still amazed posting the, numbers he has posted

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<v Speaker 1>That Oscar sibe has not yet locked down a full

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<v Speaker 1>time job in The. League maybe he, will but, Anyhow

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<v Speaker 1>yellovich will be a key From. Zagreb croatia has spent

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<v Speaker 1>the last two years in The Adriatic, league And hope

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<v Speaker 1>obviously high on. Him but as he Told John rosstein last,

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<v Speaker 1>week he's hired a lot of. Guys and the comment

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<v Speaker 1>that intrigued me the most was When rostein Asked pope

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<v Speaker 1>About Denzel. Aberdeen and this is one of the transfers

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<v Speaker 1>that piqued my, interest maybe more than Any here's a

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<v Speaker 1>guy who was playing good minutes At florida ever nearly

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<v Speaker 1>play more this coming, year and they just won a national.

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<v Speaker 1>Title yet he's transferred To. Kentucky And rostein Asked pope

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<v Speaker 1>about studying and evaluating video prior to their zoom conversation.

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<v Speaker 3>That there was no.

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<v Speaker 2>Evaluation so my evaluation came in the two weeks that

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<v Speaker 2>for our game Against, florida which was it was the

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<v Speaker 2>first game of THE sec, season and SO i had

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<v Speaker 2>some familiar with their. Team but AS i dug more

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<v Speaker 2>and more to the, Film i'm, like this cat coming

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<v Speaker 2>off the bench is terrifying to, me and he certainly

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<v Speaker 2>proved it throughout the course of the. Season he is, just,

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<v Speaker 2>uh you, know the fun part of the research for

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<v Speaker 2>us was actually getting to know him as a. Person he's, special, special, Special.

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<v Speaker 2>Uh you, know he's got a great joy about. Him

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<v Speaker 2>he's got a passion and. Commitment he is, determined uh

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<v Speaker 2>to continue his journey towards becoming a great basketball. Player

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<v Speaker 2>he's proven with what he did in this four guard

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<v Speaker 2>rotation At florida that he is a team first guy

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<v Speaker 2>and he's gonna have a you, know it's hard to

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<v Speaker 2>have a breakout season after you just won a national.

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<v Speaker 2>Championship but he's gonna have a big time breakout.

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<v Speaker 1>Season and it could be a matter of the fit

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<v Speaker 1>In Mark pope's offense. Whatever. Uh clearly the kid has

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<v Speaker 1>studied The kentucky roster and sees a better opportunity in.

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<v Speaker 1>Election and, so LIKE i, SAID i Think yellovich is

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<v Speaker 1>gonna be. FASCINATING i Think aberdeen is as. Well while

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<v Speaker 1>we're talking To kentucky. Roster you know, why Now Travis

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<v Speaker 1>that surprises me a little. BIT i don't know anything

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<v Speaker 1>about their roster and what they need right, now but

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<v Speaker 1>just thinking back to the way they played last year and,

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<v Speaker 1>again if it's a new roster and a new style of,

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<v Speaker 1>play maybe if it's perfectly For Chris, beard but that's another.

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<v Speaker 1>Key he'll be playing for a, really really good coach

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<v Speaker 1>In Chris, beard so good luck to, him good. Opportunity

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<v Speaker 1>one other basketball. Note michail MacLean you know, now has

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<v Speaker 1>signed a contract. Extension Ben roberts reported on it over the.

417
00:25:39.759 --> 00:25:44.200
<v Speaker 1>Weekend is one year deal was worth one hundred and

418
00:25:44.240 --> 00:25:48.960
<v Speaker 1>fifty grand plus performance. Bonuses now to your extension worth

419
00:25:49.519 --> 00:25:54.720
<v Speaker 1>four hundred grand this coming year and four twenty five next.

420
00:25:54.799 --> 00:25:57.440
<v Speaker 1>Year nice work if you can get. It But Mark

421
00:25:57.480 --> 00:26:00.920
<v Speaker 1>pope believes this guy is a star in the. Making

422
00:26:01.880 --> 00:26:05.640
<v Speaker 1>one other roster, note this one about. FOOTBALL ukse picked

423
00:26:05.720 --> 00:26:12.160
<v Speaker 1>up another tight. End Elijah brown technically comes FROM Ucf Central,

424
00:26:12.160 --> 00:26:18.240
<v Speaker 1>florida never played, there entered the portal In, december signed In,

425
00:26:18.359 --> 00:26:22.480
<v Speaker 1>january but now is A Kentucky. Wildcat he had spent

426
00:26:22.519 --> 00:26:27.119
<v Speaker 1>a year At, alabama Left, bama spent two years At Florida.

427
00:26:27.160 --> 00:26:33.599
<v Speaker 1>Atlantic primarily was a special teams. Player Vince merrill recruited

428
00:26:33.640 --> 00:26:38.359
<v Speaker 1>this kid out Of Dayton Wayne High. School when the

429
00:26:38.359 --> 00:26:40.119
<v Speaker 1>young man was a high school it was a nation's

430
00:26:40.160 --> 00:26:43.920
<v Speaker 1>eighth ranked tight. End but he has kind of spun

431
00:26:43.960 --> 00:26:47.000
<v Speaker 1>his wheels a little. Bit said no To, Kentucky yes To,

432
00:26:47.039 --> 00:26:49.799
<v Speaker 1>alabama that didn't work. Out now he's got a second

433
00:26:49.799 --> 00:26:53.240
<v Speaker 1>shot with The. Wildcats this is the best of The

434
00:26:53.240 --> 00:26:56.279
<v Speaker 1>Big Blooming cider coming up next to Former wildcat talks

435
00:26:56.319 --> 00:27:00.000
<v Speaker 1>about the Late Larry, Johnson kentucky point guard who passed

436
00:27:00.079 --> 00:27:01.799
<v Speaker 1>way a few weeks. Ago here on The Big Booming

437
00:27:01.880 --> 00:27:05.559
<v Speaker 1>sider six point thirty Wlap welcome back to the best

438
00:27:05.599 --> 00:27:08.680
<v Speaker 1>of The Big Blue, Insider joined now by Former wildcat

439
00:27:08.720 --> 00:27:11.480
<v Speaker 1>well once a, While kat always a Wildcad Maryon haskins

440
00:27:11.759 --> 00:27:14.759
<v Speaker 1>who played Alongside Larry johnson for a few years At.

441
00:27:14.839 --> 00:27:19.279
<v Speaker 1>KENTUCKY a Fellow Western Kentuckian marion AND i know you

442
00:27:19.359 --> 00:27:20.960
<v Speaker 1>hated to lose your, teammate didn't.

443
00:27:20.960 --> 00:27:25.079
<v Speaker 3>YOU i really hated to lose my, teammate you know

444
00:27:25.160 --> 00:27:28.559
<v Speaker 3>when all this was. Happening you, KNOW i try to

445
00:27:28.599 --> 00:27:32.400
<v Speaker 3>be there as much AS i. Could larry AND i

446
00:27:32.559 --> 00:27:38.759
<v Speaker 3>we first met In, Sharon pennsylvania at The, Sharon Pennsylvania

447
00:27:39.359 --> 00:27:43.640
<v Speaker 3>High school tournaments there in nineteen the spring of nineteen seventy.

448
00:27:43.680 --> 00:27:47.960
<v Speaker 3>Three so from, There larry AND i we played at

449
00:27:48.000 --> 00:27:50.359
<v Speaker 3>That All Star, game and we played in The Dayton

450
00:27:50.400 --> 00:27:55.079
<v Speaker 3>classic there In, Dayton, ohio and we became really good

451
00:27:55.079 --> 00:27:58.519
<v Speaker 3>friends those two, tournaments and then it was tied for

452
00:27:59.519 --> 00:28:02.680
<v Speaker 3>being rooted and we were just comparing our notes and,

453
00:28:02.720 --> 00:28:08.279
<v Speaker 3>whatnot and and we ended up being to The Kentucky

454
00:28:08.799 --> 00:28:09.920
<v Speaker 3>as as our favorite.

455
00:28:09.920 --> 00:28:12.880
<v Speaker 1>School when, so when you guys run The All Star,

456
00:28:12.920 --> 00:28:14.599
<v Speaker 1>games you hadn't CHOSEN uk.

457
00:28:14.559 --> 00:28:19.200
<v Speaker 3>Yet, no we had. Not, wow we had not told.

458
00:28:19.200 --> 00:28:21.319
<v Speaker 3>You we both was unsigned at that.

459
00:28:21.400 --> 00:28:25.000
<v Speaker 1>Time so when you, talked what did you talk? About

460
00:28:25.079 --> 00:28:28.759
<v Speaker 1>not JUST uk but other schools that were probably looking

461
00:28:28.799 --> 00:28:30.599
<v Speaker 1>at both of. You but what what was that like

462
00:28:30.640 --> 00:28:32.480
<v Speaker 1>when you sat down and, Chatted.

463
00:28:33.599 --> 00:28:38.079
<v Speaker 3>Well we was it was mostly about the, coaches it

464
00:28:38.119 --> 00:28:40.759
<v Speaker 3>appears to me and my. Memory it was about the,

465
00:28:40.799 --> 00:28:44.920
<v Speaker 3>coaches the head coach and the assistant, coaches and it

466
00:28:44.960 --> 00:28:47.960
<v Speaker 3>was mostly about about those kinds of. Things you, know

467
00:28:49.400 --> 00:28:51.519
<v Speaker 3>we didn't know a lot because you, know back then

468
00:28:51.599 --> 00:28:53.640
<v Speaker 3>it was No. Internet there was not a lot of

469
00:28:53.680 --> 00:28:58.200
<v Speaker 3>information about the. Teams you, know back, THEN i Remember

470
00:28:58.359 --> 00:29:01.599
<v Speaker 3>kentucky were only played of the layed cast at eleven

471
00:29:01.599 --> 00:29:05.000
<v Speaker 3>o'clock at, height and they was fortunate to have bad

472
00:29:05.079 --> 00:29:06.680
<v Speaker 3>and because at that time Not To day was the

473
00:29:06.720 --> 00:29:11.599
<v Speaker 3>ONLY DUD i remember that had a live, game so

474
00:29:12.400 --> 00:29:15.759
<v Speaker 3>that was important to be able to see those. Games

475
00:29:15.960 --> 00:29:17.799
<v Speaker 3>BUT i didn't know a lot about the teams and.

476
00:29:17.839 --> 00:29:21.759
<v Speaker 3>Stuff you, know just get unless you watch. Them you

477
00:29:21.799 --> 00:29:23.480
<v Speaker 3>just didn't. Know if it makes you it was not.

478
00:29:23.599 --> 00:29:27.519
<v Speaker 3>There SO i, knew and we knew that we were

479
00:29:27.559 --> 00:29:30.799
<v Speaker 3>pretty baggone good, players you, know from playing in The

480
00:29:30.839 --> 00:29:33.119
<v Speaker 3>All star against compared to a lot of these. Kids

481
00:29:33.200 --> 00:29:37.519
<v Speaker 3>they had a whole lot of credentials prep All americans

482
00:29:37.519 --> 00:29:41.000
<v Speaker 3>and all this. Stuff AND i mean we played right

483
00:29:41.039 --> 00:29:44.440
<v Speaker 3>with him and even played a little bit. BETTER i, thought,

484
00:29:44.640 --> 00:29:45.200
<v Speaker 3>yeah oh.

485
00:29:45.240 --> 00:29:49.759
<v Speaker 1>Yeah and when you Saw larry, play was it pretty

486
00:29:49.759 --> 00:29:52.000
<v Speaker 1>evident right away that you, KNOW i, mean it's such

487
00:29:52.039 --> 00:29:54.720
<v Speaker 1>a great defender and ball. HANDLER i guess that was

488
00:29:54.720 --> 00:29:56.200
<v Speaker 1>pretty evident when he was a high school.

489
00:29:56.200 --> 00:30:01.079
<v Speaker 3>Senior let me tell, YOU i grew up on a small,

490
00:30:01.119 --> 00:30:05.160
<v Speaker 3>farm bill cows through hey cut, tobacco And larry probably

491
00:30:05.160 --> 00:30:09.319
<v Speaker 3>did some of the similar. Things we were farm strong young.

492
00:30:09.400 --> 00:30:13.200
<v Speaker 3>Men and WHEN i met this, guy AND i tried

493
00:30:13.279 --> 00:30:15.519
<v Speaker 3>to guard this, guy AND i try to push him,

494
00:30:15.519 --> 00:30:19.119
<v Speaker 3>AROUND i, Said my, GOD i, said he is not

495
00:30:19.480 --> 00:30:24.839
<v Speaker 3>from downtown some big. City this guy is stronger than.

496
00:30:24.920 --> 00:30:28.480
<v Speaker 3>OFF i, mean he was just as tough As i've

497
00:30:28.519 --> 00:30:31.680
<v Speaker 3>ever played. Against so, MAN i knew, THEN i, said,

498
00:30:31.720 --> 00:30:32.720
<v Speaker 3>man just to be a great.

499
00:30:32.759 --> 00:30:37.839
<v Speaker 1>Teammate, well and because you were both like what football

500
00:30:37.880 --> 00:30:41.400
<v Speaker 1>coaches like to call country strong or farm. Strong, yes and,

501
00:30:41.480 --> 00:30:46.039
<v Speaker 1>yes the way you played, Basketball Joe hall appreciated, that no,

502
00:30:46.240 --> 00:30:46.759
<v Speaker 1>end didn't he.

503
00:30:47.720 --> 00:30:52.279
<v Speaker 3>Exactly he, appreciated you, know we were mentally. Tough SO

504
00:30:52.559 --> 00:30:54.759
<v Speaker 3>i didn't weighing one hundred and ninety two or three,

505
00:30:54.799 --> 00:30:57.279
<v Speaker 3>pounds Then larry didn't weighed about one hundred about the.

506
00:30:57.319 --> 00:31:01.000
<v Speaker 3>Same but, man let me tell, you we were. Strong

507
00:31:01.319 --> 00:31:04.759
<v Speaker 3>and he did not bag down from. Nobody and he

508
00:31:04.880 --> 00:31:06.960
<v Speaker 3>was the same. Way he was just as as the

509
00:31:07.000 --> 00:31:08.559
<v Speaker 3>other one and just a great.

510
00:31:08.640 --> 00:31:14.160
<v Speaker 1>Person oh, yeah oh, Yeah well he had that million watch,

511
00:31:14.240 --> 00:31:15.000
<v Speaker 1>smile didn't.

512
00:31:15.039 --> 00:31:18.960
<v Speaker 3>He, yeah that's my always was a happy. GUY i

513
00:31:19.000 --> 00:31:22.119
<v Speaker 3>never saw him at a sad, moment and even in

514
00:31:22.400 --> 00:31:24.839
<v Speaker 3>his last few, days you, know and he was still

515
00:31:24.960 --> 00:31:29.400
<v Speaker 3>happy and so he couldn't do much, talking BUT i

516
00:31:29.519 --> 00:31:32.519
<v Speaker 3>would say some things that that happened in the, past

517
00:31:32.599 --> 00:31:35.720
<v Speaker 3>and he made them. Alive, man he make them.

518
00:31:35.759 --> 00:31:41.160
<v Speaker 1>Alive, yeah people don't realize how great a Player larry.

519
00:31:41.440 --> 00:31:44.960
<v Speaker 1>Was first of all in, college, right and then when

520
00:31:44.960 --> 00:31:46.440
<v Speaker 1>he went on To, japan played a year in THE,

521
00:31:46.559 --> 00:31:49.599
<v Speaker 1>nba but went on To, japan and he was almost

522
00:31:49.640 --> 00:31:50.920
<v Speaker 1>a legend over, there wasn't.

523
00:31:50.920 --> 00:31:57.039
<v Speaker 3>He oh, YES i See lane played there at LEAST

524
00:31:57.279 --> 00:32:01.599
<v Speaker 3>i want to think fifteen. Years, yeah about fifteen, YEARS i.

525
00:32:01.640 --> 00:32:04.920
<v Speaker 3>THINK i think they're In japan and, uh you know

526
00:32:04.960 --> 00:32:08.000
<v Speaker 3>you've done a great job there and but not because

527
00:32:08.079 --> 00:32:11.000
<v Speaker 3>you know when he got. Drafted, uh he played for a,

528
00:32:11.200 --> 00:32:14.640
<v Speaker 3>season a few seasons in THE, nba, yea, yeah oh,

529
00:32:14.720 --> 00:32:19.160
<v Speaker 3>yeah and we still were made, friends you. KNOW i

530
00:32:19.160 --> 00:32:22.279
<v Speaker 3>mean was talking about going overseas to, play and that

531
00:32:22.480 --> 00:32:26.839
<v Speaker 3>was an interesting. Conversation did you ever go? Overseas, NO

532
00:32:26.920 --> 00:32:31.200
<v Speaker 3>i didn't. Go larry got invited to go To italy

533
00:32:32.119 --> 00:32:35.680
<v Speaker 3>And larry did a packing seal says that IF i,

534
00:32:36.119 --> 00:32:41.279
<v Speaker 3>GO i got a Brave. Marinhattan, yeah and they said

535
00:32:41.559 --> 00:32:43.920
<v Speaker 3>he can't, come but we're not going to pay its

536
00:32:43.920 --> 00:32:46.519
<v Speaker 3>way until they make the. Team, well you know back

537
00:32:46.559 --> 00:32:51.599
<v Speaker 3>in nineteen seventy, seven you, know seven, Eight, earlinutel.

538
00:32:51.079 --> 00:32:54.400
<v Speaker 1>You was a lot of, money, Buddy and IF i.

539
00:32:54.359 --> 00:32:56.400
<v Speaker 3>Got, THERE i Tell, LARRY i SUPPOSE i same my

540
00:32:56.400 --> 00:33:00.599
<v Speaker 3>anchor the first. Day, yeah you, know SO i did to,

541
00:33:00.640 --> 00:33:04.440
<v Speaker 3>go you, know but it was a lot of.

542
00:33:04.440 --> 00:33:08.640
<v Speaker 1>Fun oh, yeah you. KNOW i tell people, this and,

543
00:33:09.119 --> 00:33:12.319
<v Speaker 1>again not a knock On Kyle macy or anybody, else

544
00:33:12.359 --> 00:33:17.039
<v Speaker 1>but that's seventy seventeam With larry at the. Point that

545
00:33:17.079 --> 00:33:21.039
<v Speaker 1>team just destroyed. People seventy eight. TEAM i always taying

546
00:33:21.079 --> 00:33:23.640
<v Speaker 1>a toy with teams before they put them away because

547
00:33:23.640 --> 00:33:26.720
<v Speaker 1>they knew how good they. Were but, man that seventy seven,

548
00:33:26.759 --> 00:33:28.279
<v Speaker 1>TEAM i always say it was like a kid with

549
00:33:28.319 --> 00:33:33.559
<v Speaker 1>a new toy and just absolutely shredded. Teams and you,

550
00:33:33.599 --> 00:33:35.640
<v Speaker 1>know just some tough luck is why it ended up

551
00:33:35.960 --> 00:33:38.680
<v Speaker 1>in The East regional and not playing at home in

552
00:33:38.720 --> 00:33:41.960
<v Speaker 1>Rep arena in The Mid. East Otherwise joe b has another.

553
00:33:42.000 --> 00:33:46.599
<v Speaker 3>Title, Right, hey we should have had the YEARS i

554
00:33:46.759 --> 00:33:52.359
<v Speaker 3>played three out of four. Years, yeah easily easily could

555
00:33:52.359 --> 00:33:53.880
<v Speaker 3>have had three out of. Four you know.

556
00:33:55.640 --> 00:33:55.759
<v Speaker 5>That.

557
00:33:55.839 --> 00:33:58.039
<v Speaker 3>TEAM i, mean even the guys on the seventy eighteen

558
00:33:58.559 --> 00:34:01.279
<v Speaker 3>they would say the same thing up in, seventeen what's

559
00:34:01.400 --> 00:34:05.960
<v Speaker 3>much deeper? Deeper and, uh, well we had a you,

560
00:34:06.000 --> 00:34:08.280
<v Speaker 3>know we had a chart, there a charter there to

561
00:34:08.480 --> 00:34:11.119
<v Speaker 3>go by it and we were just like bury the.

562
00:34:11.199 --> 00:34:15.840
<v Speaker 3>Team But i'll tell you something That john was after

563
00:34:15.880 --> 00:34:18.280
<v Speaker 3>he retired that, year he came back and he watched

564
00:34:18.360 --> 00:34:22.320
<v Speaker 3>us practice there in uh In, PENNSYLVANIA i think it was.

565
00:34:22.360 --> 00:34:25.400
<v Speaker 3>There and he came over to us and were sitting

566
00:34:25.440 --> 00:34:27.480
<v Speaker 3>down on the bench and AND i remember he lived

567
00:34:27.480 --> 00:34:30.199
<v Speaker 3>At Joe. Hall he, Said, JOE i want to tell

568
00:34:30.199 --> 00:34:32.440
<v Speaker 3>you something. Here he, said you got a great. Team he,

569
00:34:32.480 --> 00:34:37.840
<v Speaker 3>said but my best team never won THE ncaa. Championship,

570
00:34:39.000 --> 00:34:44.840
<v Speaker 3>no wait a, minute where's the guy nine? Championships nine of?

571
00:34:44.960 --> 00:34:45.000
<v Speaker 5>Me?

572
00:34:45.159 --> 00:34:50.119
<v Speaker 3>RIGHT i had? Ten, okay either? One and he, said

573
00:34:50.320 --> 00:34:55.079
<v Speaker 3>my best team never won the. Time now that's. Deep

574
00:34:55.960 --> 00:34:57.039
<v Speaker 3>that's really. Deep which?

575
00:34:57.079 --> 00:34:59.960
<v Speaker 1>One which? One did he? Think was? It seventy four?

576
00:35:00.199 --> 00:35:05.559
<v Speaker 3>Team he never? Said, YEAH i was we. UNDERSTAND i

577
00:35:05.679 --> 00:35:07.239
<v Speaker 3>was listening. In, Yeah.

578
00:35:10.400 --> 00:35:12.719
<v Speaker 1>I've never heard that. Story. MAN i WISH i could

579
00:35:12.760 --> 00:35:13.320
<v Speaker 1>Ask JOE b.

580
00:35:13.480 --> 00:35:17.239
<v Speaker 3>That question that that he was talking there and he

581
00:35:17.360 --> 00:35:20.159
<v Speaker 3>talked to the team about you, know winning and traditions

582
00:35:20.159 --> 00:35:23.000
<v Speaker 3>and stuff like, that and on sort of the sidebar.

583
00:35:23.159 --> 00:35:25.320
<v Speaker 3>Conversation he was done with a people kind of saying

584
00:35:25.360 --> 00:35:28.000
<v Speaker 3>there kit chatting With JOE b AND uh and of,

585
00:35:28.000 --> 00:35:30.159
<v Speaker 3>couse you, KNOW i was always kind of colost By

586
00:35:30.280 --> 00:35:32.360
<v Speaker 3>Joe hall, anyway AND i hear him say, that AND

587
00:35:32.400 --> 00:35:35.760
<v Speaker 3>i was, like oh my. God, Yeah and you, know

588
00:35:36.079 --> 00:35:37.920
<v Speaker 3>at that time it didn't mean a lot to, Me

589
00:35:38.079 --> 00:35:41.159
<v Speaker 3>but NOW i got much more mature person that was really,

590
00:35:41.280 --> 00:35:45.639
<v Speaker 3>strong really, deep you, Know and NOW i, said what

591
00:35:47.239 --> 00:35:48.679
<v Speaker 3>should have been that didn't win?

592
00:35:48.719 --> 00:35:48.760
<v Speaker 2>It?

593
00:35:49.199 --> 00:35:51.360
<v Speaker 3>Now you, Know i'm sure he had a lot of

594
00:35:51.840 --> 00:35:54.400
<v Speaker 3>things that went into the, team not just you, know

595
00:35:54.559 --> 00:35:58.239
<v Speaker 3>win losses and stuff like. That, Problem but, yeah that was.

596
00:35:58.320 --> 00:36:00.960
<v Speaker 1>Great, yeah talking To marry And. Askins he was a

597
00:36:01.079 --> 00:36:04.880
<v Speaker 1>basketball wildcat back in the seventies and a teammate Of Larry.

598
00:36:04.960 --> 00:36:08.519
<v Speaker 1>Johnson we lost this, week And larry was a great,

599
00:36:08.599 --> 00:36:11.519
<v Speaker 1>leader great. Defender we were. Talking Tom leach AND i

600
00:36:11.599 --> 00:36:14.880
<v Speaker 1>were talking about that N I. T larry had a

601
00:36:14.920 --> 00:36:17.039
<v Speaker 1>GREAT NI t when you guys wanted up In New

602
00:36:17.119 --> 00:36:20.880
<v Speaker 1>york in seventy, Six and Course reggie AND i talked

603
00:36:20.920 --> 00:36:23.960
<v Speaker 1>About larry taking the ball and going the link to

604
00:36:24.039 --> 00:36:28.679
<v Speaker 1>the floor for a layup that beat the buzzer Against.

605
00:36:28.760 --> 00:36:33.280
<v Speaker 1>Providence what do you remember about? THAT i was just so.

606
00:36:33.480 --> 00:36:38.599
<v Speaker 3>ELATED i don't remember all of the. Details, yeah as the,

607
00:36:38.760 --> 00:36:42.360
<v Speaker 3>day but that was a great. TOURNAMENT i, mean the

608
00:36:42.599 --> 00:36:46.559
<v Speaker 3>NI t that year was. Fantastic we had some great,

609
00:36:46.639 --> 00:36:50.039
<v Speaker 3>Wins we had some things to, prove you, know to

610
00:36:50.199 --> 00:36:53.000
<v Speaker 3>our hands that you, know we had a tough, season

611
00:36:53.079 --> 00:36:55.719
<v Speaker 3>but we can't have, to you, know fifty fifty that

612
00:36:55.840 --> 00:36:58.920
<v Speaker 3>year or something like. That, yeah And Joe's hall looked

613
00:36:58.920 --> 00:37:01.079
<v Speaker 3>at us and, Said i'm not going to be a losing,

614
00:37:01.159 --> 00:37:04.400
<v Speaker 3>coach and we're not seam and we made sure that

615
00:37:04.519 --> 00:37:05.320
<v Speaker 3>we didn't do.

616
00:37:05.400 --> 00:37:09.440
<v Speaker 1>That you were ten ten at, one that's, right and

617
00:37:09.559 --> 00:37:12.280
<v Speaker 1>you won five straight and you got the N t.

618
00:37:12.559 --> 00:37:15.440
<v Speaker 1>Bid and then in the last you played in the

619
00:37:15.519 --> 00:37:20.639
<v Speaker 1>last regular season game In Memorial, coliseum and y'all damn near,

620
00:37:20.880 --> 00:37:24.440
<v Speaker 1>lusted but somehow got it into overtime and. Won The

621
00:37:24.639 --> 00:37:27.920
<v Speaker 1>Mississippi state kids run the radio, saying, hey, mom we Beat. Kentucky,

622
00:37:31.400 --> 00:37:33.079
<v Speaker 1>man that history.

623
00:37:32.920 --> 00:37:36.119
<v Speaker 3>Is unbelievable in. It i'm telling, YOU i thought we

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<v Speaker 3>couldn't lose this game here in. Memory it's no. Way but,

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<v Speaker 3>MAN i tell you we. Didn't we didn't play. Well,

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<v Speaker 3>no we game some kind of.

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<v Speaker 1>Way, Yeah jack got hot down the. Stretch, YEAH i, Know.

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<v Speaker 1>Jack that happened a lot, though didn't? It jack get that?

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<v Speaker 1>Hot that was also a period of. Time it WAS

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00:37:58.159 --> 00:38:00.760
<v Speaker 1>i think The vanderbilt game And Reggie word was throwing

631
00:38:00.800 --> 00:38:03.039
<v Speaker 1>the ball in bounds and actually threw it into the opposite.

632
00:38:03.119 --> 00:38:05.719
<v Speaker 1>Basket didn't count as a, bucket but it was quite a.

633
00:38:05.800 --> 00:38:07.840
<v Speaker 1>Highlight the.

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00:38:07.960 --> 00:38:11.599
<v Speaker 3>Highlight, yeah and you remember what With joe b did at?

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00:38:11.639 --> 00:38:15.639
<v Speaker 3>Halftime who started the second half in.

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<v Speaker 1>The Missiv state? Game no? Game oh, NO i don't.

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<v Speaker 1>REMEMBER i think you look at the.

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<v Speaker 3>RECORD i think it was all reserved. Guys, wow that

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00:38:26.920 --> 00:38:28.960
<v Speaker 3>started the game AS i.

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<v Speaker 1>Recall, Wow, marion it's always great talking to. You i'm

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00:38:33.039 --> 00:38:35.800
<v Speaker 1>sorry we had to do it under such a sad,

642
00:38:35.920 --> 00:38:38.239
<v Speaker 1>conditions BUT i was glad to see you at the

643
00:38:38.360 --> 00:38:41.280
<v Speaker 1>reunion weekend earlier this. Year hope to see you again,

644
00:38:41.360 --> 00:38:42.480
<v Speaker 1>soon my. Friend thank you so.

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00:38:42.679 --> 00:38:45.199
<v Speaker 3>Much All, Right, dick give me a.

646
00:38:45.280 --> 00:38:48.519
<v Speaker 1>Call Marion, askins a basketball wildcat back in the mid

647
00:38:48.639 --> 00:38:51.840
<v Speaker 1>seventies and a teammate of the Late Larry. Johnson it's

648
00:38:51.880 --> 00:38:54.000
<v Speaker 1>the best of The Big ones cider on This Memorial.

649
00:38:54.159 --> 00:38:56.519
<v Speaker 1>Day more to come on six thirty W l.

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<v Speaker 7>At any type, station tact can anything.

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<v Speaker 1>Only welcome back to The Big Blue. INSIDER i hope

652
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<v Speaker 1>you are having an Outstanding Memorial day. Weekend this is

653
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<v Speaker 1>the best of The Big Blue, insider And i'm going

654
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<v Speaker 1>to take you back now to a story we told

655
00:41:00.960 --> 00:41:04.079
<v Speaker 1>just a couple of days after The Kentucky, derby when

656
00:41:04.199 --> 00:41:07.199
<v Speaker 1>there was a little bit of, well an interesting twist

657
00:41:07.679 --> 00:41:10.760
<v Speaker 1>to THE nbc sports. Coverage they had to make a

658
00:41:10.880 --> 00:41:14.519
<v Speaker 1>late substitution to the guy who was leading the, broadcast

659
00:41:14.679 --> 00:41:18.440
<v Speaker 1>and it reminded me of a moment in my, career

660
00:41:18.559 --> 00:41:21.440
<v Speaker 1>such as it is that almost led me to a

661
00:41:21.480 --> 00:41:24.719
<v Speaker 1>great opportunity to work with one of my all time favorite.

662
00:41:24.760 --> 00:41:29.199
<v Speaker 1>Broadcasters it just didn't, happen but that was running through

663
00:41:29.280 --> 00:41:33.440
<v Speaker 1>my mind WHILE i was watching NBC's Kentucky derby. Coverage

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<v Speaker 1>here it is on The best of The Big Blue.

665
00:41:35.440 --> 00:41:39.159
<v Speaker 1>INSIDER i saw, this of Course i'm Watching derby, coverage

666
00:41:39.159 --> 00:41:40.719
<v Speaker 1>and if you were, too you noticed, it or you

667
00:41:40.800 --> 00:41:43.039
<v Speaker 1>may have not noticed, it but it just kind of.

668
00:41:43.119 --> 00:41:47.400
<v Speaker 1>Happened Mike turko opened the broadcast ON. Nbc it started

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<v Speaker 1>off ON Usa network and it was anchored by a Medfar.

670
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<v Speaker 1>Reid it's really, good and then they turned it over TO.

671
00:41:58.280 --> 00:42:01.599
<v Speaker 1>Nbc they basically, said, alright is gonna shift over TO

672
00:42:01.760 --> 00:42:04.079
<v Speaker 1>nbc and you, know more coming. Up blah, blah. Blah

673
00:42:04.760 --> 00:42:10.679
<v Speaker 1>so There's turco and they had just gotten started WHEN

674
00:42:10.719 --> 00:42:13.960
<v Speaker 1>i looked up and THERE'S i met Far red and

675
00:42:14.039 --> 00:42:16.000
<v Speaker 1>he was doing a little stand up piece FOR. Nbc

676
00:42:16.800 --> 00:42:19.400
<v Speaker 1>but then the next thing you, know he's. Back at

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00:42:19.440 --> 00:42:23.280
<v Speaker 1>the anchor desk Was Randy moss And Jerry. BAILEY i

678
00:42:23.400 --> 00:42:27.079
<v Speaker 1>think are. Terrific they do a tremendous job covering the

679
00:42:27.159 --> 00:42:29.840
<v Speaker 1>derby those two, guys and so does For reed And

680
00:42:29.960 --> 00:42:32.679
<v Speaker 1>tarico's done a nice. JOB i sure Wish Tom hammond

681
00:42:32.719 --> 00:42:36.239
<v Speaker 1>was still on the, Broadcast butterrico does a nice. Job

682
00:42:36.280 --> 00:42:40.199
<v Speaker 1>but the next thing you, know he's, gone and Far

683
00:42:40.239 --> 00:42:44.840
<v Speaker 1>reid had taken, over and eventually he got the opportunity to,

684
00:42:44.960 --> 00:42:48.440
<v Speaker 1>Say mike's not feeling, well So i'll be here for

685
00:42:48.519 --> 00:42:51.360
<v Speaker 1>a little. While and in fact he finished the, day

686
00:42:52.280 --> 00:42:58.960
<v Speaker 1>AS i, recall and he spent four straight hours handling

687
00:42:59.039 --> 00:43:03.880
<v Speaker 1>the coverage and did a great. Job and he talked

688
00:43:03.880 --> 00:43:06.960
<v Speaker 1>about it later on to a media. Outlet he said

689
00:43:07.000 --> 00:43:10.119
<v Speaker 1>he got done with the coverage ON usa at two point,

690
00:43:10.119 --> 00:43:13.840
<v Speaker 1>thirty took off his, mic took out his. Earpiece he

691
00:43:13.960 --> 00:43:17.039
<v Speaker 1>says he was leaving the little studio. There he, SAID

692
00:43:17.079 --> 00:43:22.360
<v Speaker 1>i bumped Into mike And tarico stopped him and he

693
00:43:22.480 --> 00:43:26.239
<v Speaker 1>could tell that something was. Wrong Forar reid could he,

694
00:43:26.280 --> 00:43:28.760
<v Speaker 1>said he didn't look quite the. Same he, SAID i

695
00:43:28.800 --> 00:43:31.800
<v Speaker 1>think his eyes were watering a little, bit and he

696
00:43:32.000 --> 00:43:35.119
<v Speaker 1>And tariico said to, Him i'm not feeling. Great you

697
00:43:35.280 --> 00:43:38.679
<v Speaker 1>might have to take over for, me And forarid, said

698
00:43:38.719 --> 00:43:43.960
<v Speaker 1>that's a, shock Because mike is a. Machine So farid

699
00:43:44.039 --> 00:43:47.679
<v Speaker 1>said to, Himself, okay he's not feeling, well but there's

700
00:43:47.719 --> 00:43:50.840
<v Speaker 1>no Way mike's not going to be able to power through,

701
00:43:50.960 --> 00:43:54.480
<v Speaker 1>this which he tried for thirty to forty five, minutes

702
00:43:55.719 --> 00:43:58.920
<v Speaker 1>but Apparently tariico just took kiptaking turns for the worse and,

703
00:43:59.079 --> 00:44:03.199
<v Speaker 1>worse and at one Point afreid had his ear piece back,

704
00:44:03.280 --> 00:44:06.519
<v Speaker 1>in and about forty five minutes, later they got in

705
00:44:06.639 --> 00:44:09.000
<v Speaker 1>his ear and said you got to come back and

706
00:44:09.159 --> 00:44:15.280
<v Speaker 1>host the, show which he did and was. Terrific and

707
00:44:15.400 --> 00:44:19.480
<v Speaker 1>that happens every once in a great, while somebody has

708
00:44:19.559 --> 00:44:25.000
<v Speaker 1>to step in for. Somebody AND i almost had a

709
00:44:25.079 --> 00:44:28.280
<v Speaker 1>situation like, that AND i bring it up only because

710
00:44:28.519 --> 00:44:32.000
<v Speaker 1>it's one of my great. REGRETS i was working the

711
00:44:32.239 --> 00:44:37.280
<v Speaker 1>twenty SEVEN ncaa. TOURNAMENT i think the baseball team was

712
00:44:37.320 --> 00:44:40.800
<v Speaker 1>out of, town that, weekend and by NOW i had

713
00:44:40.920 --> 00:44:43.760
<v Speaker 1>wrapped up the YEARS i had worked for THE Nca radio.

714
00:44:43.880 --> 00:44:48.840
<v Speaker 1>Network But i'm In, Rapperina and that was the tournament

715
00:44:49.280 --> 00:44:53.320
<v Speaker 1>Where Billy GILLESPIE'S a AND m team emerged and Beat,

716
00:44:53.360 --> 00:44:57.360
<v Speaker 1>louisville and people mistakenly thought That Mitch barnard was courtside

717
00:44:57.400 --> 00:44:59.760
<v Speaker 1>Watching billy Beat. Louisville that's when he decided to hire.

718
00:44:59.840 --> 00:45:04.679
<v Speaker 1>Him mitch was In chicago With. Kentucky but that win

719
00:45:05.119 --> 00:45:09.119
<v Speaker 1>and that weekend For Billy gillespie cemented him as the

720
00:45:09.199 --> 00:45:12.840
<v Speaker 1>hottest coach In. America BUT i. Digress across the way

721
00:45:13.800 --> 00:45:16.679
<v Speaker 1>is a guy Named Dave simms who's now the radio

722
00:45:16.800 --> 00:45:19.840
<v Speaker 1>voice of The New York. Yankees for, many many, years

723
00:45:20.480 --> 00:45:23.599
<v Speaker 1>he was the voice of The Seattle. Mariners lives In New,

724
00:45:23.719 --> 00:45:27.199
<v Speaker 1>york commuted To. Seattle you, know he had a place

725
00:45:27.280 --> 00:45:29.039
<v Speaker 1>out there and he. Stay he is one of my

726
00:45:29.159 --> 00:45:32.199
<v Speaker 1>all time favorite. BROADCASTERS i have never met the, man

727
00:45:33.280 --> 00:45:36.280
<v Speaker 1>but he's. TREMENDOUS i just love his. Work so he's

728
00:45:36.320 --> 00:45:40.159
<v Speaker 1>over there and he's working radio In Say radio With Dave.

729
00:45:40.239 --> 00:45:43.840
<v Speaker 1>Gavitt And i'd worked With dave as a producer Friends Say.

730
00:45:43.960 --> 00:45:48.280
<v Speaker 1>Radio but the next THING i, Know gavitt's, gone AND

731
00:45:48.400 --> 00:45:53.000
<v Speaker 1>i come to find out That, gavitt Like, turrico had

732
00:45:53.039 --> 00:45:55.480
<v Speaker 1>been under the, weather the Former providence, coach the former

733
00:45:55.519 --> 00:45:58.760
<v Speaker 1>head of The Big. East he had had to, Leave

734
00:45:58.880 --> 00:46:01.719
<v Speaker 1>he had had to go and get medical, help and

735
00:46:01.800 --> 00:46:05.760
<v Speaker 1>he ended up being really sick after that. WEEKEND i

736
00:46:05.800 --> 00:46:07.679
<v Speaker 1>don't know if he ever worked again for THE Ncaa radio.

737
00:46:07.760 --> 00:46:12.920
<v Speaker 1>Network but little DID i know that one of the

738
00:46:13.039 --> 00:46:16.360
<v Speaker 1>producers for the Nca radio network who also worked with

739
00:46:16.480 --> 00:46:20.519
<v Speaker 1>us on THE uk, Network Mike, dodson he was up

740
00:46:20.559 --> 00:46:22.159
<v Speaker 1>In New, york but he had a feeling THAT i

741
00:46:22.280 --> 00:46:25.280
<v Speaker 1>was going to be In. Raperna so he starts calling

742
00:46:25.360 --> 00:46:28.079
<v Speaker 1>me or trying to call, me to tell me to

743
00:46:28.400 --> 00:46:31.800
<v Speaker 1>walk across the court and sit down and do the

744
00:46:31.960 --> 00:46:34.800
<v Speaker 1>games With Dave, gavitt at least doing them that, day

745
00:46:36.480 --> 00:46:41.079
<v Speaker 1>BECAUSE i mean it was literally last. Minute, WELL i

746
00:46:41.199 --> 00:46:45.000
<v Speaker 1>had a cell phone back, then company. PHONE i was

747
00:46:45.079 --> 00:46:47.840
<v Speaker 1>working AT. Img i'm not going to say the, brand

748
00:46:48.039 --> 00:46:50.480
<v Speaker 1>but it's not What i've got, now and it was

749
00:46:50.519 --> 00:46:54.760
<v Speaker 1>a piece of, junk and he might kept trying to

750
00:46:54.800 --> 00:46:57.679
<v Speaker 1>call me and could not get through to. ME i

751
00:46:57.760 --> 00:47:00.400
<v Speaker 1>had my phone right in front of, me could not

752
00:47:00.599 --> 00:47:04.639
<v Speaker 1>get Into. Rupperina so many, people so many people on

753
00:47:04.719 --> 00:47:10.719
<v Speaker 1>their phones In, rupperena couldn't text, me couldn't get anything

754
00:47:10.840 --> 00:47:14.119
<v Speaker 1>through to, me and tell me to walk across and

755
00:47:14.280 --> 00:47:17.239
<v Speaker 1>sit down and work with a GUY i had idolized

756
00:47:17.800 --> 00:47:20.199
<v Speaker 1>for so. LONG i get somebody else to do. IT

757
00:47:20.239 --> 00:47:22.599
<v Speaker 1>i think the next day they Had Kyle macy come

758
00:47:22.639 --> 00:47:26.239
<v Speaker 1>in and work With. Dave but that's the first THING

759
00:47:26.320 --> 00:47:30.320
<v Speaker 1>i thought of WHEN i heard and sell the rest

760
00:47:30.360 --> 00:47:33.400
<v Speaker 1>of the story on NBC's coverage that For reid had

761
00:47:33.440 --> 00:47:38.800
<v Speaker 1>sat down and spent so much time subbing From Mike

762
00:47:38.840 --> 00:47:40.679
<v Speaker 1>tariko and did a terrific. Job of, course he already

763
00:47:40.679 --> 00:47:44.480
<v Speaker 1>had complete command of the. MATERIAL i would have been

764
00:47:44.519 --> 00:47:47.719
<v Speaker 1>flying by the seat of my pants broadcasting two, games

765
00:47:47.960 --> 00:47:51.599
<v Speaker 1>doing the color for crying out. Loud but REALLY i

766
00:47:51.800 --> 00:47:53.400
<v Speaker 1>just would have been filling, in trying to stay out

767
00:47:53.400 --> 00:47:55.920
<v Speaker 1>of the way of the Great Dave. Simms and now

768
00:47:56.960 --> 00:47:59.199
<v Speaker 1>he is the radio. Voice it's a job he's always,

769
00:47:59.239 --> 00:48:02.519
<v Speaker 1>wanted he, said being the radio voice of The New York.

770
00:48:02.639 --> 00:48:06.679
<v Speaker 1>Yankees So Aaron gershan can enjoy him if he pulls

771
00:48:06.760 --> 00:48:10.039
<v Speaker 1>him up, online And i'm Sure i've Got i've got

772
00:48:10.159 --> 00:48:12.880
<v Speaker 1>to look around and see there are other stories like

773
00:48:12.960 --> 00:48:15.760
<v Speaker 1>that where people step in at the last. Minute And

774
00:48:15.800 --> 00:48:17.400
<v Speaker 1>i'm not SAYING i would have done a great, job

775
00:48:17.920 --> 00:48:19.599
<v Speaker 1>but it would have been a thrill for. ME i

776
00:48:19.719 --> 00:48:22.320
<v Speaker 1>can tell you. That AND i wouldn't tell them, this

777
00:48:22.519 --> 00:48:24.920
<v Speaker 1>BUT i would have done it for. Free this is

778
00:48:25.000 --> 00:48:26.880
<v Speaker 1>the best of The Big bloom And. Sider this is

779
00:48:26.920 --> 00:48:29.000
<v Speaker 1>the best of The Big bloom And. Sider welcome back

780
00:48:29.039 --> 00:48:30.679
<v Speaker 1>to The Big blue And sider joining, us says he

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00:48:30.760 --> 00:48:34.480
<v Speaker 1>does Every wednesday on Our celebrity hotline is the unforgettable.

782
00:48:34.519 --> 00:48:37.519
<v Speaker 1>Guard Sean woods now the head coach At Scott. County

783
00:48:37.599 --> 00:48:40.519
<v Speaker 1>but now another, dude he added to the. Resume and

784
00:48:40.639 --> 00:48:43.480
<v Speaker 1>you were part Of La familia last Year sean as

785
00:48:43.519 --> 00:48:47.519
<v Speaker 1>an assistant. Coach now you're the head. COACH i guess

786
00:48:47.840 --> 00:48:50.119
<v Speaker 1>this has got to be another exciting, assignment AM I?

787
00:48:50.199 --> 00:48:54.440
<v Speaker 5>Right, well no doubt about. It anytime you can, coach you, know,

788
00:48:54.719 --> 00:48:56.199
<v Speaker 5>ANYONE i don't care if It's.

789
00:48:56.119 --> 00:48:58.639
<v Speaker 4>Pee Wee, League Junior, pro junior high.

790
00:48:58.840 --> 00:49:02.199
<v Speaker 5>Whatever you get an opportunity to coach young men and

791
00:49:02.440 --> 00:49:05.519
<v Speaker 5>and and and and try, to you, know achieve a

792
00:49:05.599 --> 00:49:07.639
<v Speaker 5>common goal and that's excellent and trying to win as

793
00:49:07.679 --> 00:49:10.039
<v Speaker 5>many games or a championship as you possibly.

794
00:49:10.079 --> 00:49:13.119
<v Speaker 1>Can bottom line is. Winning but this is an entirely

795
00:49:13.280 --> 00:49:15.320
<v Speaker 1>different type of, coaching.

796
00:49:15.039 --> 00:49:16.760
<v Speaker 3>Isn't it no?

797
00:49:16.960 --> 00:49:18.880
<v Speaker 5>Doubt you, KNOW i had an opportunity to be the

798
00:49:18.960 --> 00:49:20.639
<v Speaker 5>head coach last year AND i didn't know IF i.

799
00:49:20.760 --> 00:49:23.480
<v Speaker 5>Could SO i told, twenty you, know try to get someone.

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00:49:23.519 --> 00:49:26.119
<v Speaker 5>Else and he got a good one in And Tyler,

801
00:49:26.280 --> 00:49:28.719
<v Speaker 5>uless who did a great. Job AND i was there with,

802
00:49:28.960 --> 00:49:32.360
<v Speaker 5>him AND i realized THAT i can't coach. Pros you,

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00:49:32.400 --> 00:49:34.679
<v Speaker 5>Know i've never coached pros, before but it's coaching the same,

804
00:49:34.719 --> 00:49:37.679
<v Speaker 5>way you, know especially guys that know how to. Play you,

805
00:49:37.719 --> 00:49:40.719
<v Speaker 5>know it's easier coaching pros because you, know all you

806
00:49:40.760 --> 00:49:43.320
<v Speaker 5>got to do is give him an assignment and they'll

807
00:49:43.400 --> 00:49:45.519
<v Speaker 5>go out and do. It and the good thing about

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00:49:45.559 --> 00:49:49.320
<v Speaker 5>this situation, coaching uh THE tvt deal and with a

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00:49:49.360 --> 00:49:52.039
<v Speaker 5>lot famil is these. Guys we made it a pride.

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00:49:52.079 --> 00:49:53.039
<v Speaker 3>Deal you.

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00:49:53.119 --> 00:49:55.480
<v Speaker 5>Know anytime you put on that that jersey that Says

812
00:49:55.599 --> 00:49:59.639
<v Speaker 5>kentucky or Represent, kentucky you, know it just ooves through

813
00:49:59.679 --> 00:50:02.800
<v Speaker 5>your so and it creates another type of. Competitor and

814
00:50:02.880 --> 00:50:05.800
<v Speaker 5>that's the reason why we have. Success you, know If

815
00:50:05.880 --> 00:50:09.440
<v Speaker 5>Nate sestina doesn't leave, us you, KNOW i loved our

816
00:50:09.519 --> 00:50:10.400
<v Speaker 5>chances on winning that.

817
00:50:10.519 --> 00:50:13.960
<v Speaker 1>Deal, YEAH i remember that your guys were rolling and

818
00:50:14.039 --> 00:50:16.320
<v Speaker 1>then you lost eight and you were just kind of

819
00:50:16.320 --> 00:50:19.480
<v Speaker 1>a different team when you call it, again everybody on

820
00:50:19.559 --> 00:50:22.760
<v Speaker 1>this roster either played in THE nba or overseas or.

821
00:50:22.880 --> 00:50:27.440
<v Speaker 1>Both AND i got to think, too whatever the, level

822
00:50:28.039 --> 00:50:31.760
<v Speaker 1>if you are a good, athlete in this case a basketball,

823
00:50:31.800 --> 00:50:35.039
<v Speaker 1>player and you want to, excel you will accept, coaching won't,

824
00:50:35.039 --> 00:50:37.639
<v Speaker 1>you no matter how high a level you've, Reached.

825
00:50:38.559 --> 00:50:40.599
<v Speaker 5>No doubt about. It and the good thing about coaching

826
00:50:40.639 --> 00:50:43.880
<v Speaker 5>these pros is they know it. Already they've been coached

827
00:50:43.880 --> 00:50:44.400
<v Speaker 5>at the highest.

828
00:50:44.519 --> 00:50:45.280
<v Speaker 3>Level you.

829
00:50:45.360 --> 00:50:47.079
<v Speaker 5>Know as long as they coming in with the right

830
00:50:47.159 --> 00:50:49.920
<v Speaker 5>frame of, mind the coaching is easy because all we're

831
00:50:50.000 --> 00:50:53.920
<v Speaker 5>doing is trying to strategize ways to simplify and create

832
00:50:54.039 --> 00:50:56.199
<v Speaker 5>ways for us to be successful in the offensive end

833
00:50:56.880 --> 00:50:59.400
<v Speaker 5>and then do, things you, know from a defensive end

834
00:50:59.639 --> 00:51:01.360
<v Speaker 5>stamp point to give us a great chance to.

835
00:51:01.440 --> 00:51:04.280
<v Speaker 1>Win, well you mentioned frame of, Mind AND i remember

836
00:51:04.320 --> 00:51:07.760
<v Speaker 1>When twany spoke to the media and he, said when

837
00:51:07.800 --> 00:51:09.960
<v Speaker 1>he put out the message looking for players trying to

838
00:51:09.960 --> 00:51:12.480
<v Speaker 1>see he was willing to play and of course coach

839
00:51:12.559 --> 00:51:15.159
<v Speaker 1>like you. Guys you, know he basically said in a,

840
00:51:15.239 --> 00:51:18.079
<v Speaker 1>paraphrasing this is not just something to get together and

841
00:51:18.119 --> 00:51:20.519
<v Speaker 1>break a sweat and have. FUN i, mean you, guys,

842
00:51:20.599 --> 00:51:24.719
<v Speaker 1>really as you, said you sort of rededicated, yourselves didn't.

843
00:51:24.760 --> 00:51:27.480
<v Speaker 5>You we, did you, know we had we had to

844
00:51:28.039 --> 00:51:30.239
<v Speaker 5>kind of, come had to come To jesus meeting last.

845
00:51:30.280 --> 00:51:32.280
<v Speaker 5>Year you, know they kind of had that attitude at.

846
00:51:32.400 --> 00:51:35.280
<v Speaker 5>First then after about the second, day you, know we

847
00:51:35.519 --> 00:51:38.480
<v Speaker 5>just told him, listen you know you still Represent kentucky

848
00:51:38.760 --> 00:51:42.199
<v Speaker 5>and you know people still want to beat, us and you,

849
00:51:42.280 --> 00:51:45.360
<v Speaker 5>know we we're asking these fans to come out and support,

850
00:51:45.440 --> 00:51:47.400
<v Speaker 5>us and we got, to you, know put on a

851
00:51:47.440 --> 00:51:49.920
<v Speaker 5>great show because when we're playing rup or wherever we're playing,

852
00:51:49.960 --> 00:51:53.239
<v Speaker 5>at no matter what if you've been here five years

853
00:51:53.320 --> 00:51:56.079
<v Speaker 5>or been going for six, years these the people here

854
00:51:56.119 --> 00:51:58.000
<v Speaker 5>in the state Of kentucky still expect you to. Win

855
00:51:58.280 --> 00:52:01.039
<v Speaker 5>and this is still you, know and we're playing for.

856
00:52:01.119 --> 00:52:02.320
<v Speaker 5>Something we're playing for a million.

857
00:52:02.400 --> 00:52:03.679
<v Speaker 4>Dollars so that was the other.

858
00:52:03.760 --> 00:52:04.079
<v Speaker 3>Character.

859
00:52:04.320 --> 00:52:06.960
<v Speaker 1>Also it's more than the money, though isn't.

860
00:52:07.000 --> 00:52:09.760
<v Speaker 5>It, oh no doubt about it is the, pride you,

861
00:52:09.840 --> 00:52:11.960
<v Speaker 5>know still having That kentucky on your chest a little,

862
00:52:12.000 --> 00:52:13.920
<v Speaker 5>bit even though we called a lie for, me but

863
00:52:14.400 --> 00:52:17.000
<v Speaker 5>everyone knows we're the product OF uk.

864
00:52:17.159 --> 00:52:18.639
<v Speaker 4>BASKETBALL i was really.

865
00:52:19.360 --> 00:52:22.159
<v Speaker 1>PLEASED i GUESS i shouldn't have been. Surprised you probably

866
00:52:22.239 --> 00:52:26.440
<v Speaker 1>weren't that a lot of these guys were really moved

867
00:52:26.519 --> 00:52:29.480
<v Speaker 1>and touched by the fan. Response and as you, said

868
00:52:29.519 --> 00:52:31.880
<v Speaker 1>a lot of these guys have been gone far far,

869
00:52:32.000 --> 00:52:34.519
<v Speaker 1>AWAY i, mean out of, sight out of mind for several.

870
00:52:34.599 --> 00:52:37.039
<v Speaker 1>Years but when they came, back it's like they'd never been,

871
00:52:37.119 --> 00:52:40.280
<v Speaker 1>gone you, Know AND i guess you kind of saw that,

872
00:52:40.400 --> 00:52:42.079
<v Speaker 1>coming BUT i got a kick out of.

873
00:52:42.119 --> 00:52:45.000
<v Speaker 5>That, well what we had to do was and it

874
00:52:45.079 --> 00:52:49.320
<v Speaker 5>was you, know everything happens for a, reason and you,

875
00:52:49.360 --> 00:52:51.920
<v Speaker 5>know as an assistant, coach not only DID i help

876
00:52:51.960 --> 00:52:55.199
<v Speaker 5>with coach and you, KNOW i really had, to you,

877
00:52:55.280 --> 00:53:00.400
<v Speaker 5>know teach these guys how significant they are To. Ucky you,

878
00:53:00.480 --> 00:53:02.039
<v Speaker 5>know most of those, guys and these guys that are

879
00:53:02.039 --> 00:53:04.920
<v Speaker 5>playing FOR us had only spent eight months in The

880
00:53:05.000 --> 00:53:07.360
<v Speaker 5>commonwealth because they were they were one and done for

881
00:53:07.480 --> 00:53:11.760
<v Speaker 5>the most, part so they didn't appreciate and know how

882
00:53:12.079 --> 00:53:15.360
<v Speaker 5>significant they. Were as far as an autograph, session you,

883
00:53:15.480 --> 00:53:17.559
<v Speaker 5>know they couldn't believe that so many people would come

884
00:53:17.639 --> 00:53:20.840
<v Speaker 5>back and want their. Autographs so after the, yeah it

885
00:53:20.920 --> 00:53:23.960
<v Speaker 5>was it was amazing Because how can you get used to.

886
00:53:24.039 --> 00:53:26.559
<v Speaker 4>Anything when you're only here to play.

887
00:53:26.440 --> 00:53:28.280
<v Speaker 5>Basketball you know What i'm, Saying and then you go

888
00:53:28.360 --> 00:53:30.639
<v Speaker 5>into THE. Nba this was just like a feeder system for,

889
00:53:30.719 --> 00:53:34.440
<v Speaker 5>them AND i had to really, emphasize you, know like

890
00:53:34.639 --> 00:53:38.159
<v Speaker 5>after the first, GAME i made everyone after the game

891
00:53:38.400 --> 00:53:40.880
<v Speaker 5>go back out out in the in the arena area

892
00:53:41.239 --> 00:53:43.639
<v Speaker 5>and sign every autograph to the last person.

893
00:53:43.760 --> 00:53:44.000
<v Speaker 3>Left.

894
00:53:44.280 --> 00:53:47.760
<v Speaker 5>Wow interesting because they, didn't you, Know AND i told,

895
00:53:47.800 --> 00:53:50.280
<v Speaker 5>THEM i, said, listen you're not going to be more

896
00:53:50.320 --> 00:53:53.000
<v Speaker 5>significant than any in any other place in the. World but,

897
00:53:53.119 --> 00:53:57.039
<v Speaker 5>HERE i, said you, Know, tyler you Is Willie, kolstein you,

898
00:53:57.119 --> 00:53:59.800
<v Speaker 5>Know taler The Phoenix suns that they didn't forgot about you,

899
00:53:59.840 --> 00:54:03.840
<v Speaker 5>already you, Know willie Call, Asy Sacramento kings that forgot

900
00:54:03.920 --> 00:54:07.360
<v Speaker 5>about you, already you, know But kentucky never forgets.

901
00:54:07.400 --> 00:54:09.239
<v Speaker 1>You that's, Right that's, right you.

902
00:54:09.320 --> 00:54:12.280
<v Speaker 5>Know and even though if you played six, months four

903
00:54:12.360 --> 00:54:15.519
<v Speaker 5>years or, whatever you still wore that uniform and there's

904
00:54:15.559 --> 00:54:19.280
<v Speaker 5>still a great appreciation for you in this, place unlike

905
00:54:19.360 --> 00:54:21.280
<v Speaker 5>any other place that you will live or be it

906
00:54:21.480 --> 00:54:21.760
<v Speaker 5>in your.

907
00:54:21.840 --> 00:54:25.320
<v Speaker 4>Life and that was My that was my call in last,

908
00:54:25.360 --> 00:54:26.039
<v Speaker 4>year and it's.

909
00:54:25.880 --> 00:54:26.719
<v Speaker 3>Going to be my call in this.

910
00:54:26.840 --> 00:54:26.960
<v Speaker 5>Year.

911
00:54:27.039 --> 00:54:29.800
<v Speaker 1>Too that's a great, point you, mate because in the

912
00:54:29.960 --> 00:54:34.719
<v Speaker 1>pros you're a. Commodity you know that some, people you,

913
00:54:34.760 --> 00:54:37.519
<v Speaker 1>know rise above. That but but ninety eight percent of the,

914
00:54:37.599 --> 00:54:40.599
<v Speaker 1>time you, know and people sign up for that right

915
00:54:40.719 --> 00:54:43.440
<v Speaker 1>as a pro you could. Stay if you stayed one

916
00:54:43.519 --> 00:54:46.079
<v Speaker 1>franchise for thirteen or fourteen, years that might be. Different

917
00:54:46.280 --> 00:54:47.679
<v Speaker 1>that doesn't happen, anymore does it?

918
00:54:48.960 --> 00:54:52.960
<v Speaker 5>Now as you can see, that you, know the trading

919
00:54:53.159 --> 00:54:55.840
<v Speaker 5>is just like anything. Else you, know nobody's staying in one.

920
00:54:55.880 --> 00:54:57.440
<v Speaker 3>Place and look at. It it's in.

921
00:54:57.559 --> 00:54:59.360
<v Speaker 5>College now that's.

922
00:54:59.400 --> 00:55:02.920
<v Speaker 1>True that's. True, Hey speaking of WHICH i know you

923
00:55:03.039 --> 00:55:08.119
<v Speaker 1>Noticed Boogie flann Leaves, caliperry dips his toe in THE nba,

924
00:55:08.239 --> 00:55:11.679
<v Speaker 1>waters then goes To. Florida and it can't be a

925
00:55:11.840 --> 00:55:14.760
<v Speaker 1>money thing because we know there's a bottomless pit of

926
00:55:14.880 --> 00:55:19.960
<v Speaker 1>chicken money and more In. Arkansas but he leaves the

927
00:55:20.039 --> 00:55:24.079
<v Speaker 1>guy he said no thanks To kentucky and Followed caliperry To,

928
00:55:24.199 --> 00:55:26.960
<v Speaker 1>arkansas got, hurt but came. Back they had a good.

929
00:55:27.039 --> 00:55:29.159
<v Speaker 1>Run but then he leaves For. Florida what do you

930
00:55:29.239 --> 00:55:29.480
<v Speaker 1>make of?

931
00:55:29.559 --> 00:55:29.599
<v Speaker 3>That?

932
00:55:31.519 --> 00:55:38.760
<v Speaker 5>Typical typical you, know there's just no loyalty in kindege athletics,

933
00:55:38.760 --> 00:55:42.000
<v Speaker 5>anymore you, know and you could, tell just like anywhere,

934
00:55:42.039 --> 00:55:45.079
<v Speaker 5>else he didn't care About arkansas that arkassos in his.

935
00:55:45.239 --> 00:55:50.079
<v Speaker 5>Chest no one, does, yeah you. Know and last year

936
00:55:50.199 --> 00:55:53.159
<v Speaker 5>because it was the first. Year you, know no one

937
00:55:53.199 --> 00:55:55.239
<v Speaker 5>can leave, after you, know because they all. Stay but

938
00:55:56.199 --> 00:55:58.320
<v Speaker 5>you're gonna see something leaving already. Here you, know you

939
00:55:58.400 --> 00:56:02.199
<v Speaker 5>Had ax freshman already leave In State kentucky kid already.

940
00:56:02.320 --> 00:56:05.320
<v Speaker 3>Leave it's gonna. Be it's gonna, be you know What i'm.

941
00:56:05.320 --> 00:56:08.320
<v Speaker 5>Saying and you can't knock, coaches you can't knock anything

942
00:56:08.920 --> 00:56:10.960
<v Speaker 5>that is the layer of the land. Now and that's

943
00:56:11.000 --> 00:56:13.840
<v Speaker 5>the way these kids and their parents. Think they're always

944
00:56:13.880 --> 00:56:16.239
<v Speaker 5>looking for the next. Fix they don't want the. Truth

945
00:56:16.400 --> 00:56:18.280
<v Speaker 5>they want people to tell them how good they. Are

946
00:56:19.000 --> 00:56:21.480
<v Speaker 5>and they're thinking that the grass is green on the other,

947
00:56:21.599 --> 00:56:25.760
<v Speaker 5>side where there's money, playing, coaching so on and so.

948
00:56:26.000 --> 00:56:28.920
<v Speaker 5>Forth you, know there's just no state power. Anywhere and

949
00:56:29.039 --> 00:56:34.159
<v Speaker 5>that's a prime example because cal actually everyone, thought if

950
00:56:34.159 --> 00:56:37.519
<v Speaker 5>you're a basketball, person That arkansas didn't hit their stride

951
00:56:37.599 --> 00:56:39.039
<v Speaker 5>Until Boogey flynn actually got hurt.

952
00:56:39.159 --> 00:56:41.519
<v Speaker 1>Exactly this is the best of the Big bloon. Sider

953
00:56:42.280 --> 00:56:44.639
<v Speaker 1>this is the best of the Big blue. Insider welcome

954
00:56:44.679 --> 00:56:46.719
<v Speaker 1>back to The Big Blue. Sider joining us now on

955
00:56:46.840 --> 00:56:49.400
<v Speaker 1>Our Celebrity highline is the guy we have chatted with many.

956
00:56:49.480 --> 00:56:52.679
<v Speaker 1>Times you hear him On Sunday Morning Sports, Talk Anthony,

957
00:56:52.719 --> 00:56:55.960
<v Speaker 1>white the FORMER uk running back who is one of

958
00:56:56.000 --> 00:56:58.519
<v Speaker 1>the co host along With Larry vott In cast of.

959
00:56:58.639 --> 00:57:01.599
<v Speaker 1>Hundreds it seems On Sunday Morning Sports, tack how are.

960
00:57:01.559 --> 00:57:04.679
<v Speaker 3>You and B i'm doing pretty, good doing really.

961
00:57:04.719 --> 00:57:08.039
<v Speaker 1>Good let's talk a little bit About uh, well first

962
00:57:08.079 --> 00:57:10.360
<v Speaker 1>of all The Kentucky? Derby did you have the? WINNER

963
00:57:12.159 --> 00:57:13.119
<v Speaker 1>i did not have the?

964
00:57:13.199 --> 00:57:16.920
<v Speaker 3>WINNER i. WAS i guess it's kind OF i guess

965
00:57:16.920 --> 00:57:19.400
<v Speaker 3>this kind of. Controversial now That Bob bathor was, BACK

966
00:57:19.880 --> 00:57:22.000
<v Speaker 3>i was looking at some of his, horses And Larry

967
00:57:22.119 --> 00:57:25.639
<v Speaker 3>vaux's close friend of, mine was going with with. Journalism

968
00:57:26.360 --> 00:57:28.719
<v Speaker 3>SO i saw that we had a chance, there but

969
00:57:28.960 --> 00:57:29.519
<v Speaker 3>mine was.

970
00:57:31.079 --> 00:57:31.119
<v Speaker 4>The.

971
00:57:31.199 --> 00:57:34.199
<v Speaker 3>One it was a gold chunk of, gold chunk of.

972
00:57:34.280 --> 00:57:37.519
<v Speaker 3>Gold didn't have didn't didn't stand the chance, man but

973
00:57:37.639 --> 00:57:40.679
<v Speaker 3>that WAS i just saw the name sounded, prey SO

974
00:57:40.719 --> 00:57:42.599
<v Speaker 3>i went with dad at worse. That Uh, NO i

975
00:57:42.639 --> 00:57:45.599
<v Speaker 3>didn't do, good BUT i do, know AND i do.

976
00:57:45.800 --> 00:57:48.960
<v Speaker 3>NOW i think it's always tough to depict A derby.

977
00:57:49.039 --> 00:57:52.079
<v Speaker 3>Horse my birthday Is may, first was Always derby, weekend

978
00:57:53.320 --> 00:57:56.079
<v Speaker 3>so WHENEVER i, celebrated as Usually, derby it was always every.

979
00:57:56.119 --> 00:57:58.920
<v Speaker 3>Weekend but when it rains the whole day and then

980
00:57:59.159 --> 00:58:01.159
<v Speaker 3>it typically clears up right right before the.

981
00:58:01.280 --> 00:58:04.239
<v Speaker 1>Race, Yep i've covered so Many derbys AND i can

982
00:58:04.320 --> 00:58:07.679
<v Speaker 1>remember that. Happening it seems like it could pour all

983
00:58:07.800 --> 00:58:09.760
<v Speaker 1>day and then for some Reate well we know why

984
00:58:11.320 --> 00:58:14.559
<v Speaker 1>the racing gods allowed things to clear. Up but uh,

985
00:58:14.880 --> 00:58:17.159
<v Speaker 1>YEAH i had. Journalism he was one of my two key.

986
00:58:17.280 --> 00:58:20.840
<v Speaker 1>Horses the horses are in two three or the HORSES

987
00:58:20.880 --> 00:58:23.239
<v Speaker 1>i keyed all my exotics on for the most, part

988
00:58:23.559 --> 00:58:26.000
<v Speaker 1>had a couple of savers that hit the. Board but,

989
00:58:26.920 --> 00:58:30.360
<v Speaker 1>YEAH i mean, sovereignty you. Know HE i said earlier

990
00:58:30.440 --> 00:58:32.519
<v Speaker 1>he liked the, track he had won on the track,

991
00:58:32.599 --> 00:58:35.480
<v Speaker 1>before but the fact that it was an off, track

992
00:58:35.559 --> 00:58:38.079
<v Speaker 1>a sloppy, track and it scared me. Off but uh,

993
00:58:38.440 --> 00:58:40.320
<v Speaker 1>MAN i love The, derby so you, KNOW i NEVER

994
00:58:40.440 --> 00:58:43.679
<v Speaker 1>i never really, Complained and of course The derby always

995
00:58:43.719 --> 00:58:46.760
<v Speaker 1>comes not long after spring. Practice raps. Up did you

996
00:58:46.960 --> 00:58:48.960
<v Speaker 1>enjoy spring practice when you were? Playing?

997
00:58:51.719 --> 00:58:53.960
<v Speaker 3>Uh, well you KNOW i had two different, coaches SO

998
00:58:54.199 --> 00:58:56.239
<v Speaker 3>i can give you two different. Answers all, right go.

999
00:58:56.320 --> 00:59:00.119
<v Speaker 3>Ahead Under Bill curry you, Know Bill Curry, man were.

1000
00:59:00.199 --> 00:59:03.280
<v Speaker 3>Full we were full. Pass we were rocking every, day,

1001
00:59:03.480 --> 00:59:08.239
<v Speaker 3>Yeah monday Through, Thursday, friday do a little prep and

1002
00:59:08.320 --> 00:59:10.360
<v Speaker 3>then you, know then the game was like a real. Game.

1003
00:59:10.440 --> 00:59:12.039
<v Speaker 3>Man we were rocking and. Socking the only person that

1004
00:59:12.079 --> 00:59:16.360
<v Speaker 3>couldn't get hit is Probably Philly Jack. Happins uh my

1005
00:59:16.480 --> 00:59:19.039
<v Speaker 3>time there And Tim, couch he was only there in

1006
00:59:19.199 --> 00:59:22.039
<v Speaker 3>one Year Under curry will Have, Mummy, man it was so, fun.

1007
00:59:22.159 --> 00:59:24.320
<v Speaker 3>Man you, know throughout the week we were in shorts

1008
00:59:24.360 --> 00:59:27.000
<v Speaker 3>and and, stuff and we knew we were gonna put

1009
00:59:27.039 --> 00:59:28.840
<v Speaker 3>up put up a show for the, fans put up

1010
00:59:28.840 --> 00:59:31.880
<v Speaker 3>about forty or fifty points because our office was was pretty.

1011
00:59:31.960 --> 00:59:35.199
<v Speaker 3>Unique so un to Have mommy was fun because it

1012
00:59:35.320 --> 00:59:38.079
<v Speaker 3>was an opportunity for the fans to see us fly

1013
00:59:38.239 --> 00:59:41.920
<v Speaker 3>around and do great. Things but, nah but in my first, years,

1014
00:59:42.000 --> 00:59:45.400
<v Speaker 3>man under that speed option Under Bill Curry, man it was,

1015
00:59:45.599 --> 00:59:47.719
<v Speaker 3>man it was it was like a. Game every day

1016
00:59:48.960 --> 00:59:52.320
<v Speaker 3>practice and the game was a. Game, yes, yeah during

1017
00:59:52.360 --> 00:59:54.360
<v Speaker 3>the season during the you, KNOW i get.

1018
00:59:54.440 --> 00:59:56.280
<v Speaker 1>THAT i get. That and the during the season we

1019
00:59:56.320 --> 00:59:58.840
<v Speaker 1>were allowed to come to practice back, THEN i get,

1020
00:59:58.880 --> 01:00:01.760
<v Speaker 1>That and mummy went like you said that it was

1021
01:00:01.840 --> 01:00:05.159
<v Speaker 1>almost past skelly and and thud when it came to

1022
01:00:05.280 --> 01:00:06.079
<v Speaker 1>defense and all that.

1023
01:00:06.199 --> 01:00:10.320
<v Speaker 3>Stuff, yeah, no and the so so if we, went

1024
01:00:10.480 --> 01:00:12.840
<v Speaker 3>if we went full to the ground in the regular,

1025
01:00:12.880 --> 01:00:16.000
<v Speaker 3>season spring was exact same. Thing they wanted to know

1026
01:00:16.079 --> 01:00:18.960
<v Speaker 3>who was gonna be ready in the fall and, yeah,

1027
01:00:19.039 --> 01:00:22.239
<v Speaker 3>man we we, Banged, yeah we banged around the whole. Frame.

1028
01:00:22.440 --> 01:00:26.039
<v Speaker 1>Man, well it was probably just as well then that

1029
01:00:26.159 --> 01:00:29.679
<v Speaker 1>you went from the heavy hitting Under curry to the

1030
01:00:29.800 --> 01:00:32.840
<v Speaker 1>lighter stuff Under. Mummy imagine if you'd flipped the script

1031
01:00:33.280 --> 01:00:35.360
<v Speaker 1>and you've been Doing mummy stuff and then you went

1032
01:00:35.400 --> 01:00:37.159
<v Speaker 1>to the heavy, hitting it would have been tougher to. Take.

1033
01:00:37.280 --> 01:00:42.039
<v Speaker 3>Right if you ever talked to Uh Tony, franklin who's running, Back,

1034
01:00:42.519 --> 01:00:45.679
<v Speaker 3>yeah remember he just got he just signed somewhere last.

1035
01:00:45.760 --> 01:00:48.960
<v Speaker 3>Year he was the one who said when he got,

1036
01:00:49.039 --> 01:00:51.440
<v Speaker 3>there him and How mummy them came. In he, SAID

1037
01:00:51.440 --> 01:00:52.719
<v Speaker 3>i was kind of, small, MAN i was about one

1038
01:00:52.800 --> 01:00:55.239
<v Speaker 3>hundred and eighty five, pounds and he was, like, MAN

1039
01:00:55.400 --> 01:00:57.719
<v Speaker 3>i never saw how they beat you all up all

1040
01:00:57.800 --> 01:00:59.800
<v Speaker 3>throughout the week and expect you to perform On. Saturday

1041
01:01:00.559 --> 01:01:02.599
<v Speaker 3>and that's, why you, know The mummy and especially as

1042
01:01:02.599 --> 01:01:04.480
<v Speaker 3>a running. Back Tony franklin was, like, MAN i want

1043
01:01:04.519 --> 01:01:06.199
<v Speaker 3>you to be. PRESS i want you to be fresh

1044
01:01:06.239 --> 01:01:08.920
<v Speaker 3>as possible On. Saturdays long as you know your. Assignment you,

1045
01:01:09.000 --> 01:01:10.639
<v Speaker 3>KNOW i got faith and you're gonna do what you're gonna.

1046
01:01:10.639 --> 01:01:12.400
<v Speaker 3>Do but there ain't no sense in beating you. Up

1047
01:01:12.440 --> 01:01:16.760
<v Speaker 3>flitz picked up OF uh nine on, seven which is inside,

1048
01:01:16.840 --> 01:01:18.800
<v Speaker 3>drill like it's a tough running and all. That just

1049
01:01:19.400 --> 01:01:22.199
<v Speaker 3>now just run, around be fresh man with thuds you

1050
01:01:22.280 --> 01:01:23.880
<v Speaker 3>here and there and make sure you know what you're.

1051
01:01:23.920 --> 01:01:26.719
<v Speaker 3>Doing but, no just being fresh and that and that

1052
01:01:26.880 --> 01:01:29.079
<v Speaker 3>really made me feel like that's why when you asked me,

1053
01:01:29.159 --> 01:01:31.519
<v Speaker 3>THAT i got a different answer because going to the

1054
01:01:31.599 --> 01:01:36.599
<v Speaker 3>season this. Hurts that hurts as opposed to going in there, like, shoot,

1055
01:01:36.639 --> 01:01:38.480
<v Speaker 3>MAN i ain't been hit. YET i want to see

1056
01:01:38.519 --> 01:01:40.280
<v Speaker 3>how LONG i can go through the season without being.

1057
01:01:40.360 --> 01:01:41.000
<v Speaker 1>HIT i hear.

1058
01:01:41.079 --> 01:01:41.119
<v Speaker 6>That.

1059
01:01:42.360 --> 01:01:44.480
<v Speaker 1>Well on the one, hand coaches like to say old

1060
01:01:44.519 --> 01:01:47.440
<v Speaker 1>school coaches like to, say you know you play the

1061
01:01:47.519 --> 01:01:50.559
<v Speaker 1>way you. Practice but then you know what's interesting Is

1062
01:01:50.679 --> 01:01:53.880
<v Speaker 1>mummy was was was criticized after he, left or really

1063
01:01:54.000 --> 01:01:57.840
<v Speaker 1>during his last season because the defense was so bad

1064
01:01:57.880 --> 01:02:00.199
<v Speaker 1>and we've talked about that. Before that Was mike made or,

1065
01:02:00.920 --> 01:02:03.960
<v Speaker 1>honestly just what he was doing nobody could figure, out

1066
01:02:04.000 --> 01:02:07.119
<v Speaker 1>and you, know getting fired or resigning under. Pressure but

1067
01:02:08.639 --> 01:02:12.400
<v Speaker 1>people criticize the fact that you guys use THE thud,

1068
01:02:12.519 --> 01:02:15.159
<v Speaker 1>policy which is hip it don't take to the. Ground

1069
01:02:15.880 --> 01:02:18.480
<v Speaker 1>and When guimo took, over who was kind of the

1070
01:02:18.639 --> 01:02:23.199
<v Speaker 1>Anti mummy in a lot of, ways he IMMEDIATELY i

1071
01:02:23.280 --> 01:02:26.360
<v Speaker 1>think you might have been gone by. Then he immediately

1072
01:02:26.480 --> 01:02:30.000
<v Speaker 1>said or had his team go to thud because he, Said,

1073
01:02:30.000 --> 01:02:34.000
<v Speaker 1>anthony if we take people to the, ground injuries will

1074
01:02:34.000 --> 01:02:35.719
<v Speaker 1>pile up and we're going to run out of. Players

1075
01:02:35.800 --> 01:02:36.880
<v Speaker 1>so it made, sense didn't.

1076
01:02:36.880 --> 01:02:36.920
<v Speaker 2>It?

1077
01:02:38.320 --> 01:02:41.000
<v Speaker 3>Oh absolutely. NO i wasn't there Under more's BUT i

1078
01:02:41.039 --> 01:02:43.480
<v Speaker 3>CAN i can pretty much assure that you know he

1079
01:02:43.599 --> 01:02:46.119
<v Speaker 3>ran THE nfl type. Practice now how THE nfl is

1080
01:02:46.360 --> 01:02:49.519
<v Speaker 3>get your spots really, quick make contacts so we know

1081
01:02:49.639 --> 01:02:51.559
<v Speaker 3>that you can get a good. Fit and that was

1082
01:02:51.719 --> 01:02:54.079
<v Speaker 3>and that was. IT i will tell you this, though

1083
01:02:54.079 --> 01:02:56.840
<v Speaker 3>if you talked to you, Know Jeffin nettecker and some

1084
01:02:56.920 --> 01:02:59.719
<v Speaker 3>of those, guys maybe Now marlon, McCree they did feel

1085
01:02:59.800 --> 01:03:03.159
<v Speaker 3>like not getting all that that tackling and all that

1086
01:03:03.559 --> 01:03:05.880
<v Speaker 3>hurt them On saturdays because when they got a position

1087
01:03:06.480 --> 01:03:11.039
<v Speaker 3>that thud that did not assimulate a game time. SITUATION

1088
01:03:11.199 --> 01:03:13.400
<v Speaker 3>i think they, felt, like you, know not not having that.

1089
01:03:13.480 --> 01:03:15.480
<v Speaker 3>OPPORTUNITY i could see.

1090
01:03:15.519 --> 01:03:18.840
<v Speaker 1>That but here's the other, Thing, anthony is it under

1091
01:03:18.960 --> 01:03:21.760
<v Speaker 1>Major how often were they in the right place at

1092
01:03:21.760 --> 01:03:22.760
<v Speaker 1>the right? Time it was so.

1093
01:03:23.000 --> 01:03:27.760
<v Speaker 3>Rare, yeah they call we call that. Defense they call

1094
01:03:27.840 --> 01:03:30.920
<v Speaker 3>that defense ninety nine point. Nine so if they if

1095
01:03:30.920 --> 01:03:34.079
<v Speaker 3>they they blitch ninety nine point nine the. Time and

1096
01:03:34.199 --> 01:03:36.000
<v Speaker 3>so if you get, there which is tough to do

1097
01:03:36.079 --> 01:03:38.000
<v Speaker 3>a lot of, times you may, whip which you leave

1098
01:03:38.119 --> 01:03:40.440
<v Speaker 3>everybody on the island one on. One and at this,

1099
01:03:40.639 --> 01:03:43.719
<v Speaker 3>level nobody's tackling anybody one on. ONE i, MEAN i

1100
01:03:43.760 --> 01:03:45.800
<v Speaker 3>don't care how good of a tackle you. ARE i

1101
01:03:45.920 --> 01:03:48.000
<v Speaker 3>don't think you're gonna tackle me one on. One and

1102
01:03:48.079 --> 01:03:50.400
<v Speaker 3>if you, DO i don't deserve to be a skilled

1103
01:03:50.440 --> 01:03:53.360
<v Speaker 3>player in the. Conference but, yeah that WAS i think,

1104
01:03:53.400 --> 01:03:55.360
<v Speaker 3>he like you, said he put people in terrible. Position

1105
01:03:55.559 --> 01:03:56.440
<v Speaker 3>we want they were in.

1106
01:03:56.519 --> 01:04:01.639
<v Speaker 1>Position, well fortunately those days are. Gone coming out of the,

1107
01:04:01.719 --> 01:04:04.280
<v Speaker 1>spring what were some of the reports you. GOT i

1108
01:04:04.280 --> 01:04:05.679
<v Speaker 1>don't know if you've got a chance to get over

1109
01:04:05.719 --> 01:04:09.239
<v Speaker 1>there at. All you are a working, Man but how

1110
01:04:09.280 --> 01:04:11.360
<v Speaker 1>do you feel about the way things are? Going? Right

1111
01:04:11.400 --> 01:04:12.119
<v Speaker 1>now as you know.

1112
01:04:12.280 --> 01:04:16.519
<v Speaker 3>It, WELL i don't really want, to, MAN i ain't

1113
01:04:16.599 --> 01:04:18.400
<v Speaker 3>really want to have this. Conversation i'll tell you. That,

1114
01:04:19.000 --> 01:04:22.599
<v Speaker 3>yeah you've kind of always questioned me off air on

1115
01:04:22.840 --> 01:04:25.840
<v Speaker 3>air about you, know THE i guess the CONFIDENCE i

1116
01:04:25.920 --> 01:04:27.920
<v Speaker 3>had in our. SQUAD i tell you this, game it

1117
01:04:28.239 --> 01:04:31.360
<v Speaker 3>ain't there this. Year, okay it ain't there this year

1118
01:04:32.000 --> 01:04:34.599
<v Speaker 3>for me AND. I but the one THING i do

1119
01:04:34.760 --> 01:04:37.280
<v Speaker 3>feel is that we're back to Old Mark stukes. Football

1120
01:04:37.280 --> 01:04:39.519
<v Speaker 3>we're back to blue. Collar we don't HAVE i don't

1121
01:04:39.519 --> 01:04:41.559
<v Speaker 3>think we got the players running the asylum. ANYMORE i

1122
01:04:41.599 --> 01:04:44.039
<v Speaker 3>don't think players are calling the. Shots so you, know

1123
01:04:44.119 --> 01:04:46.280
<v Speaker 3>you hear a lot of new names around on our

1124
01:04:46.360 --> 01:04:51.440
<v Speaker 3>squad now and that doesn't fit either way with. Me

1125
01:04:51.800 --> 01:04:53.840
<v Speaker 3>that's WHY i really don't have an answer for. YOU i,

1126
01:04:53.960 --> 01:04:57.039
<v Speaker 3>mean they have all new offensive. Line these guys haven't jailed.

1127
01:04:57.119 --> 01:04:59.559
<v Speaker 3>YET i think the running back, room which probably for

1128
01:04:59.639 --> 01:05:01.840
<v Speaker 3>the past six or seven years has been pretty. Strong

1129
01:05:02.239 --> 01:05:05.639
<v Speaker 3>uh we can plug and play their quarterback position for,

1130
01:05:05.800 --> 01:05:09.760
<v Speaker 3>again for about the four out of the last five

1131
01:05:09.880 --> 01:05:11.639
<v Speaker 3>years is a question on you know. Who we have a,

1132
01:05:11.719 --> 01:05:14.960
<v Speaker 3>quarterback brand new. Guy you, know they're, talented they're, uh

1133
01:05:15.360 --> 01:05:19.199
<v Speaker 3>have a lot of experience at that. Position Uh, so

1134
01:05:19.679 --> 01:05:23.639
<v Speaker 3>LIKE i said With Kyles, outa but everything starts WITH

1135
01:05:23.920 --> 01:05:27.519
<v Speaker 3>i was talking to AN espn reporter and they thought, That.

1136
01:05:27.679 --> 01:05:31.559
<v Speaker 3>Uh the question With kentucky is what's going on? Upfront

1137
01:05:32.079 --> 01:05:34.880
<v Speaker 3>so the quarterback may look, average may look extremely average

1138
01:05:34.880 --> 01:05:37.960
<v Speaker 3>because out of may look extremely average if he doesn't

1139
01:05:38.000 --> 01:05:41.679
<v Speaker 3>have any blocking up, front and that's where the team

1140
01:05:41.760 --> 01:05:43.760
<v Speaker 3>is gonna. Go the receiving room is gonna suffer from

1141
01:05:43.800 --> 01:05:47.360
<v Speaker 3>that running. Back they probably are do decent if the

1142
01:05:47.440 --> 01:05:51.920
<v Speaker 3>running but but if that offensive line, jails THEN i you,

1143
01:05:52.000 --> 01:05:53.559
<v Speaker 3>KNOW i think we got a lot of. Excitement so,

1144
01:05:53.800 --> 01:05:56.559
<v Speaker 3>uh and that's where all the questions were last. Year

1145
01:05:56.599 --> 01:05:59.639
<v Speaker 3>the quarterback rooms now in the office line, room AND

1146
01:05:59.679 --> 01:06:01.280
<v Speaker 3>i THINK i think they're still there right.

1147
01:06:01.320 --> 01:06:03.079
<v Speaker 1>Now so it's fair to say it's too soon to.

1148
01:06:03.199 --> 01:06:06.599
<v Speaker 1>Tell what do you? Think because you're you're you're a

1149
01:06:06.679 --> 01:06:09.599
<v Speaker 1>lot more skeptic having played this. Game you're a lot

1150
01:06:09.639 --> 01:06:11.559
<v Speaker 1>more skeptical than the average, fan aren't.

1151
01:06:11.559 --> 01:06:15.800
<v Speaker 3>You oh, Yeah i'm absolutely. Skeptical LIKE i, said even

1152
01:06:15.840 --> 01:06:17.800
<v Speaker 3>for at the quarterback, POSITION i thought a lot of

1153
01:06:17.840 --> 01:06:19.880
<v Speaker 3>things were going. ON i know our defensive front will be,

1154
01:06:20.000 --> 01:06:23.920
<v Speaker 3>well our defensive, BACKFIELD i think they'll they'll be able

1155
01:06:23.920 --> 01:06:27.719
<v Speaker 3>to hold their own lineback and. Corps we got a

1156
01:06:27.760 --> 01:06:29.360
<v Speaker 3>lot of new faces. There we had a lot of,

1157
01:06:29.400 --> 01:06:32.599
<v Speaker 3>attrition you, know due to the transfer, portal, right uh

1158
01:06:33.320 --> 01:06:36.039
<v Speaker 3>and stuff like. This And i'm Bd white is great

1159
01:06:36.079 --> 01:06:38.400
<v Speaker 3>to hide his. Weaknesses so if we do have weaknesses on,

1160
01:06:38.519 --> 01:06:40.800
<v Speaker 3>DEFENSE i Think Brad white can hide. Them, well you,

1161
01:06:40.880 --> 01:06:43.840
<v Speaker 3>know we can play in this. Conference but, yeah But i'm.

1162
01:06:44.159 --> 01:06:46.960
<v Speaker 3>Reserved i've got my position alerts UNTIL i see what

1163
01:06:47.039 --> 01:06:48.960
<v Speaker 3>those guys can do. UPFRONT i don't blame.

1164
01:06:49.039 --> 01:06:52.000
<v Speaker 1>You we're talking With Anthony, white Former kentucky running. Back

1165
01:06:52.039 --> 01:06:54.719
<v Speaker 1>he as a co host Of Sunday Morning Sports. Talking

1166
01:06:54.800 --> 01:06:57.159
<v Speaker 1>we'll come back and talk more, football but aunt be

1167
01:06:57.320 --> 01:06:58.920
<v Speaker 1>in just a minute here on The Big Boon sider

1168
01:06:58.960 --> 01:07:01.880
<v Speaker 1>six thirty W. L this is the best of The

1169
01:07:01.920 --> 01:07:04.559
<v Speaker 1>Big bloom And. Sider welcome. Back we're chatting With Anthony.

1170
01:07:04.599 --> 01:07:07.000
<v Speaker 1>White he is the co host Of Sunday Morning Sports

1171
01:07:07.039 --> 01:07:11.000
<v Speaker 1>talk here right here on six THIRTY. Wlap and just

1172
01:07:11.079 --> 01:07:13.800
<v Speaker 1>before the, break b was telling us about how skeptical

1173
01:07:13.840 --> 01:07:15.559
<v Speaker 1>he is right, now and you have earned that right

1174
01:07:15.679 --> 01:07:18.000
<v Speaker 1>obviously because of the way things have gone over the

1175
01:07:18.119 --> 01:07:21.000
<v Speaker 1>last few. YEARS i want to talk to you though

1176
01:07:21.039 --> 01:07:24.559
<v Speaker 1>about the old line because looking back on how things

1177
01:07:24.639 --> 01:07:27.639
<v Speaker 1>have been going to last three, seasons AND i think

1178
01:07:27.719 --> 01:07:30.000
<v Speaker 1>we've all tried to see things that weren't, there at

1179
01:07:30.039 --> 01:07:32.199
<v Speaker 1>least some of us. HAVE i don't put you in that,

1180
01:07:32.280 --> 01:07:34.840
<v Speaker 1>group because you're a harder sell on a lot of this,

1181
01:07:34.960 --> 01:07:39.599
<v Speaker 1>stuff having played both here and at the pro. Level

1182
01:07:40.079 --> 01:07:43.119
<v Speaker 1>BUT i think we were all expecting too much from

1183
01:07:43.199 --> 01:07:46.440
<v Speaker 1>that offensive. Line maybe not you, know the year After

1184
01:07:46.519 --> 01:07:50.119
<v Speaker 1>Will levis, left BUT i think we were overly. Optimistic

1185
01:07:50.920 --> 01:07:52.719
<v Speaker 1>AND i think when you get right down to a

1186
01:07:52.800 --> 01:07:54.679
<v Speaker 1>lot of the problems this team has had, now not

1187
01:07:54.800 --> 01:07:58.639
<v Speaker 1>pointing fingers at any one person in, particular it just

1188
01:07:58.840 --> 01:08:02.599
<v Speaker 1>wasn't the right. MIX i did talk To, fyi one

1189
01:08:02.639 --> 01:08:06.039
<v Speaker 1>of the staffers during spring, break and he was not

1190
01:08:06.199 --> 01:08:09.079
<v Speaker 1>THE o line, coach but he was, Impressed anthony with

1191
01:08:09.199 --> 01:08:12.519
<v Speaker 1>the athleticism on this. Group and to your point you

1192
01:08:12.639 --> 01:08:15.639
<v Speaker 1>talked about kind of getting back to That Mark stoop's

1193
01:08:15.639 --> 01:08:18.319
<v Speaker 1>style of. Play this guy said he believes that the

1194
01:08:18.439 --> 01:08:21.920
<v Speaker 1>old line could start looking again like A John SCHLARMAN o,

1195
01:08:22.039 --> 01:08:22.880
<v Speaker 1>line you know WHAT i, Mean.

1196
01:08:24.600 --> 01:08:26.439
<v Speaker 3>And that would be and that would be the best

1197
01:08:26.479 --> 01:08:28.119
<v Speaker 3>thing that can happen for. Us and when we line

1198
01:08:28.159 --> 01:08:30.479
<v Speaker 3>up Against, toledo IF i could see that or just

1199
01:08:30.640 --> 01:08:32.600
<v Speaker 3>a similars of AND i know That aledo shouldn't put

1200
01:08:32.680 --> 01:08:34.720
<v Speaker 3>up as much of a fight as THE sec is

1201
01:08:34.760 --> 01:08:38.119
<v Speaker 3>gonna put, up but IF i could see, that that will.

1202
01:08:38.159 --> 01:08:40.439
<v Speaker 3>HELP i was talking To Big. Dog we talked To

1203
01:08:40.479 --> 01:08:43.800
<v Speaker 3>Big dog On sunday, morning AND i asked him about.

1204
01:08:44.039 --> 01:08:51.840
<v Speaker 3>UH i asked him about our offense line and the

1205
01:08:51.960 --> 01:08:54.479
<v Speaker 3>center just just got draft or they got that got

1206
01:08:54.560 --> 01:09:01.520
<v Speaker 3>signed to The, texans and he said That Cock, wolford, Yeah,

1207
01:09:01.640 --> 01:09:06.560
<v Speaker 3>Eli Eli cox being signed and he thought That, yenser you,

1208
01:09:06.640 --> 01:09:09.319
<v Speaker 3>know knew What eli had had to take a risk on. Him,

1209
01:09:09.319 --> 01:09:12.199
<v Speaker 3>Said eli is doing a good job as The. TEXAS i,

1210
01:09:12.399 --> 01:09:16.800
<v Speaker 3>ASKED i asked him this completely, honest and he's always

1211
01:09:16.800 --> 01:09:19.520
<v Speaker 3>been honest with. ME i, Said so we got rid Of,

1212
01:09:19.720 --> 01:09:24.319
<v Speaker 3>genser who was at The Houston. Texans who's the better

1213
01:09:25.359 --> 01:09:27.319
<v Speaker 3>who ended up better on the. Deal so we Fired

1214
01:09:27.399 --> 01:09:30.319
<v Speaker 3>genser and we brought back the old offensive line coach

1215
01:09:30.439 --> 01:09:34.920
<v Speaker 3>And wolford that was At. Alabama and besides the panel

1216
01:09:34.960 --> 01:09:37.520
<v Speaker 3>that was On sunday, morning they thought that maybe The

1217
01:09:37.640 --> 01:09:39.319
<v Speaker 3>texans got the better end of the. Deal so that

1218
01:09:39.520 --> 01:09:42.279
<v Speaker 3>really didn't make any sense to. Me that really didn't

1219
01:09:42.279 --> 01:09:45.000
<v Speaker 3>make any sense to. Me so when you asked me,

1220
01:09:45.079 --> 01:09:48.119
<v Speaker 3>WHO i, uh you asked me about WHO i think

1221
01:09:49.439 --> 01:09:51.479
<v Speaker 3>the office line is going. TO i think if he

1222
01:09:51.600 --> 01:09:56.840
<v Speaker 3>gets back to, resembling if he gives that Resemblance, SLARMAN

1223
01:09:56.920 --> 01:09:59.520
<v Speaker 3>i think you have a chance Because slarmer would play

1224
01:09:59.640 --> 01:10:01.600
<v Speaker 3>eight or office. Line so every year you have two

1225
01:10:01.680 --> 01:10:04.039
<v Speaker 3>or three linemen who have some, experience and that every

1226
01:10:04.119 --> 01:10:06.560
<v Speaker 3>year you just got continuity on the office. Line this

1227
01:10:06.760 --> 01:10:09.119
<v Speaker 3>year we have all transferred. Lineman we GOT i Mean

1228
01:10:09.159 --> 01:10:10.760
<v Speaker 3>burton is the only one that hasn't transferred. There we

1229
01:10:10.840 --> 01:10:16.039
<v Speaker 3>Got farmers transfer in Bron Pete, washlager those, guys and

1230
01:10:16.199 --> 01:10:18.479
<v Speaker 3>all those guys have never played. Before Maybe burton And

1231
01:10:18.520 --> 01:10:21.960
<v Speaker 3>farmer just a tas. It and if they don't, jail

1232
01:10:22.039 --> 01:10:23.680
<v Speaker 3>we don't know we're gonna get. Now they could completely.

1233
01:10:23.760 --> 01:10:26.800
<v Speaker 3>Jail they could completely, jail And wolfer can have those

1234
01:10:26.840 --> 01:10:29.720
<v Speaker 3>guys rotating in in the slarm and fashion where everybody's staying,

1235
01:10:29.800 --> 01:10:33.800
<v Speaker 3>continuity nobody's getting, tired everybody has fresh, legs AND i

1236
01:10:33.920 --> 01:10:35.920
<v Speaker 3>think that things can go. Well BUT i think you

1237
01:10:36.000 --> 01:10:37.720
<v Speaker 3>hit the nail on the. HEAD i do think we

1238
01:10:37.800 --> 01:10:39.520
<v Speaker 3>got to get back to the Old, slarman Way. Man

1239
01:10:39.560 --> 01:10:43.119
<v Speaker 3>we're keeping these games, fresh you, know you, know having

1240
01:10:43.239 --> 01:10:45.399
<v Speaker 3>some younger guys getting in their mixes up so the

1241
01:10:45.439 --> 01:10:47.960
<v Speaker 3>older guy can can be. Fresh and also it helps

1242
01:10:48.000 --> 01:10:50.560
<v Speaker 3>the continuity in the. Future going to the portal every

1243
01:10:50.640 --> 01:10:52.840
<v Speaker 3>year to get office lineman is not the way. GAVE

1244
01:10:52.840 --> 01:10:56.479
<v Speaker 3>i tell, you if a, team whether there's money involved,

1245
01:10:56.520 --> 01:10:59.159
<v Speaker 3>now but if a team lets a good left tackle

1246
01:10:59.800 --> 01:11:03.439
<v Speaker 3>or great offense lineman, go you may not have been

1247
01:11:03.800 --> 01:11:06.760
<v Speaker 3>their best offensive. Linemen, yeah which means you could come

1248
01:11:06.840 --> 01:11:09.159
<v Speaker 3>here and be our. Best but that means that we

1249
01:11:09.239 --> 01:11:12.239
<v Speaker 3>probably had problems from them. Beginning SO i DON'T i

1250
01:11:12.319 --> 01:11:14.039
<v Speaker 3>don't think it's a bad thing that we hit the

1251
01:11:14.079 --> 01:11:16.239
<v Speaker 3>portal to get a lot of players this, year BUT

1252
01:11:16.680 --> 01:11:18.840
<v Speaker 3>i think it leaves a lot of. Uncertainty And i've

1253
01:11:18.840 --> 01:11:21.079
<v Speaker 3>been optimistic in the past just BECAUSE i know How

1254
01:11:21.119 --> 01:11:23.479
<v Speaker 3>stuke say, is And stukes will admit to you that

1255
01:11:23.600 --> 01:11:26.159
<v Speaker 3>he he may have lost vision a little. Bit let the,

1256
01:11:26.199 --> 01:11:28.159
<v Speaker 3>guys you, know run the locker room a little, bit

1257
01:11:28.600 --> 01:11:30.399
<v Speaker 3>not be where they were supposed to, be not put

1258
01:11:30.439 --> 01:11:32.159
<v Speaker 3>in the work they were supposed to off off the.

1259
01:11:32.199 --> 01:11:36.680
<v Speaker 3>Field So i'm gonna RESERVE i really, Internally i'm probably

1260
01:11:36.760 --> 01:11:39.119
<v Speaker 3>more optimistic now BECAUSE i know you've got guys who

1261
01:11:39.159 --> 01:11:41.680
<v Speaker 3>wants to, play who's gonna, listen who's gonna be, there

1262
01:11:41.920 --> 01:11:43.680
<v Speaker 3>who wants to prove they want to they want to

1263
01:11:43.720 --> 01:11:48.880
<v Speaker 3>wear the blue and. White BUT i ain't confident issue

1264
01:11:49.680 --> 01:11:52.399
<v Speaker 3>to put to put my, Words so put my words.

1265
01:11:52.439 --> 01:11:55.199
<v Speaker 1>ONE i don't blame you because the proof's not been

1266
01:11:55.279 --> 01:11:57.039
<v Speaker 1>in the pudding over the last few. Years we're talking

1267
01:11:57.079 --> 01:11:59.960
<v Speaker 1>To Anthony, white Former kentucky running back down the coast

1268
01:12:00.039 --> 01:12:04.560
<v Speaker 1>Of Sunday morning Sports. Talk you talked about how bringing

1269
01:12:04.680 --> 01:12:08.119
<v Speaker 1>in old linemen consistently through the portal is not necessarily

1270
01:12:08.800 --> 01:12:11.720
<v Speaker 1>a great recipe for, success and clearly you need to

1271
01:12:11.800 --> 01:12:15.840
<v Speaker 1>develop that chemistry that comes with a great old. Line

1272
01:12:15.920 --> 01:12:17.920
<v Speaker 1>harder to do these days the way players are moving.

1273
01:12:17.960 --> 01:12:20.800
<v Speaker 1>Around BUT i also have a, Question, anthony do you

1274
01:12:20.960 --> 01:12:23.800
<v Speaker 1>Think kentucky is ever going to be? Able maybe they

1275
01:12:23.880 --> 01:12:26.880
<v Speaker 1>can do this With Cutter, bowley if not this, year next,

1276
01:12:26.960 --> 01:12:29.920
<v Speaker 1>year can they break the cycle of having to go

1277
01:12:30.159 --> 01:12:33.960
<v Speaker 1>to the portal almost every year every other year for

1278
01:12:34.079 --> 01:12:36.680
<v Speaker 1>a starting, quarterback not just A, qb but a starter

1279
01:12:37.279 --> 01:12:40.279
<v Speaker 1>because this cycle began When Drew barker went down injured

1280
01:12:41.000 --> 01:12:43.560
<v Speaker 1>during the. YEAR i think it was during the twenty sixteen,

1281
01:12:43.760 --> 01:12:46.119
<v Speaker 1>season you, know crying out a. Lot it was eight

1282
01:12:46.199 --> 01:12:49.800
<v Speaker 1>years ago And Stephen johnson did a remarkable. Job Terry

1283
01:12:49.880 --> 01:12:52.239
<v Speaker 1>wilson came, in he held a job for a while

1284
01:12:53.039 --> 01:12:56.560
<v Speaker 1>longer than. Most but when can they just start developing

1285
01:12:56.600 --> 01:12:58.000
<v Speaker 1>their own qbs? Again you know WHAT i?

1286
01:12:58.119 --> 01:13:01.840
<v Speaker 3>MEAN i think you're absolutely right on that as. WELL

1287
01:13:01.920 --> 01:13:04.680
<v Speaker 3>i don't think you can for you to make and

1288
01:13:04.840 --> 01:13:06.520
<v Speaker 3>this is not a knock On stoops at, all to

1289
01:13:06.640 --> 01:13:10.000
<v Speaker 3>make nine almost ten million dollars a year to coach

1290
01:13:10.039 --> 01:13:12.560
<v Speaker 3>a football, team and the head of the snake is

1291
01:13:12.680 --> 01:13:15.800
<v Speaker 3>uncertain every year that nobody hires a NEW ceo every.

1292
01:13:15.840 --> 01:13:19.520
<v Speaker 3>Year nobody hires a general manager every year at a successful.

1293
01:13:19.600 --> 01:13:22.840
<v Speaker 3>Business so the fact that you, know you're not developing these,

1294
01:13:22.880 --> 01:13:25.399
<v Speaker 3>guys bringing them through the, rank and then have somebody

1295
01:13:25.640 --> 01:13:27.760
<v Speaker 3>you know in the corridor, waiting you, know to take

1296
01:13:27.800 --> 01:13:31.720
<v Speaker 3>over the next. Year are you every barring injury or

1297
01:13:31.880 --> 01:13:34.479
<v Speaker 3>just you, know something happens in an off, season which

1298
01:13:34.520 --> 01:13:36.640
<v Speaker 3>happens a couple of, times like right before the season

1299
01:13:36.720 --> 01:13:39.960
<v Speaker 3>starts in the, summer somebody goes. Down, man you maybe

1300
01:13:39.960 --> 01:13:42.199
<v Speaker 3>it hit the, portal but living in the, portal, man

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01:13:42.239 --> 01:13:44.720
<v Speaker 3>that got to be a scary. Thing it ain't scary

1302
01:13:44.760 --> 01:13:47.039
<v Speaker 3>for me or you because that's a little MONEY i. Make,

1303
01:13:47.239 --> 01:13:49.319
<v Speaker 3>man they can find Another Anthony White. Indy they to

1304
01:13:49.399 --> 01:13:51.920
<v Speaker 3>do my. Job but if you're a ten million dollar coach,

1305
01:13:52.039 --> 01:13:53.920
<v Speaker 3>man you have to you have to be fighting your

1306
01:13:53.960 --> 01:13:57.000
<v Speaker 3>fingernails Like Lebron, james knowing that, MAN i got a new.

1307
01:13:57.039 --> 01:13:58.439
<v Speaker 3>GUY i don't know how he's gonna jail with the.

1308
01:13:58.520 --> 01:14:00.600
<v Speaker 3>SYSTEM i don't know how in the jail with the

1309
01:14:00.600 --> 01:14:02.600
<v Speaker 3>players in the locker. Room and you do that every.

1310
01:14:02.680 --> 01:14:04.920
<v Speaker 3>Year that's. Karried now if you bring a you bring

1311
01:14:05.000 --> 01:14:07.279
<v Speaker 3>A Tim couch in as a, freshman you get him

1312
01:14:07.319 --> 01:14:09.520
<v Speaker 3>beat up in the. Swamp But Tim couch is still

1313
01:14:09.560 --> 01:14:12.039
<v Speaker 3>a dude to. Practice he still deliver the throws you

1314
01:14:12.119 --> 01:14:12.920
<v Speaker 3>bring how money?

1315
01:14:12.960 --> 01:14:13.000
<v Speaker 5>In?

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01:14:14.119 --> 01:14:17.439
<v Speaker 3>Now you sophomore? Year, hi are we doing? Great junior?

1317
01:14:17.520 --> 01:14:20.000
<v Speaker 3>Year A heisman candidate because you knew what you? Had

1318
01:14:20.119 --> 01:14:22.920
<v Speaker 3>he the, system, fit he developing the, system got better

1319
01:14:22.960 --> 01:14:25.039
<v Speaker 3>at the. System and when he, leaves what happens? Next

1320
01:14:25.680 --> 01:14:28.199
<v Speaker 3>you Got Dusty. Bonner Dusty bonner knows the. System he

1321
01:14:28.239 --> 01:14:31.800
<v Speaker 3>sat behind. Him here we go and you, so, UH

1322
01:14:32.880 --> 01:14:34.199
<v Speaker 3>i think you had that on the. Head you might

1323
01:14:34.239 --> 01:14:35.520
<v Speaker 3>need To you don't need to be talking to. Me

1324
01:14:35.600 --> 01:14:37.920
<v Speaker 3>you need to be sitting down talking To stoops and

1325
01:14:38.039 --> 01:14:41.279
<v Speaker 3>you get him understand that and you develop you of. Sophomore,

1326
01:14:41.359 --> 01:14:44.039
<v Speaker 3>man you got three years to be comfortable at least,

1327
01:14:44.159 --> 01:14:47.000
<v Speaker 3>uh you, know, uh be comfortable with your paycheck coming

1328
01:14:47.039 --> 01:14:47.760
<v Speaker 3>in for another three.

1329
01:14:47.840 --> 01:14:51.960
<v Speaker 1>YEARS i know That stoops would obviously much rather have

1330
01:14:52.840 --> 01:14:56.439
<v Speaker 1>a quarterback who is. Well, again they thought they had

1331
01:14:56.479 --> 01:14:58.640
<v Speaker 1>it And Drew barker he was going to be the.

1332
01:14:58.760 --> 01:15:01.680
<v Speaker 1>Guy you, know Say sad as a freshman played a

1333
01:15:01.720 --> 01:15:04.640
<v Speaker 1>little bit but got, hurt but he was supposed to

1334
01:15:04.680 --> 01:15:07.359
<v Speaker 1>be the guy for the next three, years which enabled

1335
01:15:07.399 --> 01:15:11.039
<v Speaker 1>them to recruit in theory and develop depth at that, position,

1336
01:15:11.159 --> 01:15:13.439
<v Speaker 1>which as you, know is not easy at THE qb.

1337
01:15:13.600 --> 01:15:19.079
<v Speaker 3>Spot, YEAH i don't want to throw anybody under the

1338
01:15:19.119 --> 01:15:22.359
<v Speaker 3>bus or you, know throw, anyway because it's tough at that. Level,

1339
01:15:22.399 --> 01:15:24.960
<v Speaker 3>man it is, tough and quarterback is probably the toughest

1340
01:15:25.000 --> 01:15:27.039
<v Speaker 3>position because you have to know where everybody's. At you

1341
01:15:27.119 --> 01:15:29.560
<v Speaker 3>got to process a lot of. Things you can't dictate

1342
01:15:29.600 --> 01:15:31.520
<v Speaker 3>where the heat is coming. From you can't dictate a

1343
01:15:31.560 --> 01:15:33.720
<v Speaker 3>lot of. Things but you rely on Every you rely

1344
01:15:33.840 --> 01:15:36.359
<v Speaker 3>on ten other people and cannot dictate what the other

1345
01:15:36.520 --> 01:15:38.720
<v Speaker 3>eleven people are doing. It you got to process and stuff.

1346
01:15:38.800 --> 01:15:42.520
<v Speaker 3>Quickly BUT i DON'T i don't think we really had anybody.

1347
01:15:42.560 --> 01:15:49.159
<v Speaker 3>Here maybe uh uh maybe uh, oh why skipping my?

1348
01:15:49.239 --> 01:15:51.800
<v Speaker 3>Name are skipping? Me the guy that left here to

1349
01:15:51.840 --> 01:15:54.880
<v Speaker 3>go to The, Rams liam The officer Of court and

1350
01:15:54.920 --> 01:15:59.399
<v Speaker 3>Theam cohen if he maybe he maybe he Developed, will

1351
01:15:59.560 --> 01:16:01.399
<v Speaker 3>but he are he had a relationship With Will, levits

1352
01:16:01.800 --> 01:16:04.960
<v Speaker 3>so Possibly, Liam BUT i don't think he's really done

1353
01:16:04.960 --> 01:16:07.520
<v Speaker 3>a great job of finding someone here to develop our

1354
01:16:07.600 --> 01:16:10.319
<v Speaker 3>quarterback to the young. Ones and we just happened to

1355
01:16:10.640 --> 01:16:12.960
<v Speaker 3>land On will Because will could throw the ball and

1356
01:16:13.199 --> 01:16:16.920
<v Speaker 3>dayn their ninety yards and you Got Wandille. Robinson so,

1357
01:16:17.239 --> 01:16:19.760
<v Speaker 3>YEAH i think the first thing he may do And

1358
01:16:20.039 --> 01:16:22.560
<v Speaker 3>bush maybe That, bush maybe that guy that can develop the.

1359
01:16:22.640 --> 01:16:25.560
<v Speaker 3>Quarterback we haven't really seen that. Yet but maybe that's

1360
01:16:25.600 --> 01:16:28.840
<v Speaker 3>our next, focus bringing in the top tier quarterback. Coach

1361
01:16:29.239 --> 01:16:31.600
<v Speaker 3>BUT i think the tough part is doing go ahead

1362
01:16:31.920 --> 01:16:32.399
<v Speaker 3>just because.

1363
01:16:32.199 --> 01:16:34.800
<v Speaker 1>Say but you know what that circle says right back

1364
01:16:34.880 --> 01:16:36.880
<v Speaker 1>to the first thing we talked About, anthony and that

1365
01:16:36.960 --> 01:16:40.000
<v Speaker 1>was an old. LINE i Mean Will ravis's second, year

1366
01:16:40.720 --> 01:16:42.920
<v Speaker 1>those guys that protected him the year, before four of

1367
01:16:42.960 --> 01:16:45.560
<v Speaker 1>them were IN nfl. Camps he had handed off to

1368
01:16:45.600 --> 01:16:48.319
<v Speaker 1>AN nfl back In benny as you, said he'd been

1369
01:16:48.359 --> 01:16:51.239
<v Speaker 1>throwing to AN nfl wide out or split it a slot.

1370
01:16:51.319 --> 01:16:54.760
<v Speaker 1>Back And Wandale robinson now he's got a NEW oc

1371
01:16:54.880 --> 01:16:58.720
<v Speaker 1>and won't let him, scramble and an old line under

1372
01:16:58.760 --> 01:17:00.920
<v Speaker 1>construction he's running, away wouldn't run for his life because

1373
01:17:00.920 --> 01:17:03.159
<v Speaker 1>it wouldn't let. Him so end up getting killed back

1374
01:17:03.239 --> 01:17:06.039
<v Speaker 1>there and ended up injured most of the. Years SO

1375
01:17:06.239 --> 01:17:09.880
<v Speaker 1>i don't. Know it's a vicious. Circle but they just

1376
01:17:09.960 --> 01:17:11.079
<v Speaker 1>got to power through, it don't.

1377
01:17:11.119 --> 01:17:14.199
<v Speaker 3>They, yeah AND i AND i got faced on, Them

1378
01:17:14.239 --> 01:17:15.800
<v Speaker 3>LIKE i, SAID i think we got a lot hungrier.

1379
01:17:15.880 --> 01:17:18.880
<v Speaker 3>Guys and we talked about this for probably the past

1380
01:17:18.920 --> 01:17:21.640
<v Speaker 3>three or four. Years, man with the with the implementation

1381
01:17:21.800 --> 01:17:24.760
<v Speaker 3>of the transport portal and N i l you, know

1382
01:17:24.800 --> 01:17:27.720
<v Speaker 3>it's tough to re recruit, guys have guys stay. Committed

1383
01:17:27.720 --> 01:17:29.479
<v Speaker 3>when guys are making more knowledge that they're gonna make

1384
01:17:29.520 --> 01:17:31.720
<v Speaker 3>it the next, level just like the women the women's

1385
01:17:31.760 --> 01:17:33.760
<v Speaker 3>basketball game is going on to the top. Tier women

1386
01:17:34.600 --> 01:17:37.880
<v Speaker 3>UH W nba girls are making lesson they were in.

1387
01:17:38.000 --> 01:17:40.560
<v Speaker 3>College so you, know when they when they're making more

1388
01:17:40.640 --> 01:17:42.800
<v Speaker 3>than the, coaches it's tough to motivate. Him it's tough

1389
01:17:42.800 --> 01:17:46.159
<v Speaker 3>for them to stay. Motivated BUT i Think stops kind

1390
01:17:46.199 --> 01:17:49.079
<v Speaker 3>of really understands hold these guys. Accountable and the biggest thing,

1391
01:17:49.279 --> 01:17:51.279
<v Speaker 3>is which you, know one of the coaches friend of,

1392
01:17:51.319 --> 01:17:54.640
<v Speaker 3>Mine i'm friends with big dogs as, well that they

1393
01:17:54.800 --> 01:17:57.039
<v Speaker 3>have to know that WHEN i line up next to

1394
01:17:57.239 --> 01:17:59.680
<v Speaker 3>the other ten players off of the defense special, teams

1395
01:18:00.039 --> 01:18:02.159
<v Speaker 3>that you got to do your. Job someone can get. Hurt,

1396
01:18:02.359 --> 01:18:04.720
<v Speaker 3>yep you know if you're. Not so everybody want to

1397
01:18:04.760 --> 01:18:06.520
<v Speaker 3>be out there for a counter. Cast but when someone's

1398
01:18:06.560 --> 01:18:09.920
<v Speaker 3>making say eight hundred thousand dollars a year and next

1399
01:18:09.960 --> 01:18:12.439
<v Speaker 3>to somebody who's making one hundred or fifty thousand dollars

1400
01:18:12.760 --> 01:18:15.560
<v Speaker 3>and they feel they're more, ENTITLED i. Don't those things

1401
01:18:15.600 --> 01:18:17.279
<v Speaker 3>are real things that are going on gay AND i

1402
01:18:17.359 --> 01:18:18.920
<v Speaker 3>think we got rid of a lot of. THAT i

1403
01:18:18.960 --> 01:18:20.880
<v Speaker 3>think itself in the mirror made a lot of the

1404
01:18:20.920 --> 01:18:23.159
<v Speaker 3>players look at stuff in the. Mirror and that's why

1405
01:18:23.199 --> 01:18:25.239
<v Speaker 3>when the fans get upset and so and so, left

1406
01:18:25.279 --> 01:18:28.560
<v Speaker 3>so and so Lest, yeah well they weren't buying into

1407
01:18:28.640 --> 01:18:31.079
<v Speaker 3>What stups and the staff are trying to. DO i

1408
01:18:31.199 --> 01:18:32.720
<v Speaker 3>feel more that's why a lot of them. Less So

1409
01:18:32.760 --> 01:18:34.560
<v Speaker 3>i'm really agent to see when we get back to

1410
01:18:34.680 --> 01:18:37.680
<v Speaker 3>just having blue collar guys going out there committed to

1411
01:18:37.720 --> 01:18:39.840
<v Speaker 3>The blue and. White i'm just kind of curious to

1412
01:18:39.880 --> 01:18:41.960
<v Speaker 3>see what the products is going to.

1413
01:18:42.000 --> 01:18:44.800
<v Speaker 1>Be sounds like a guy From cleveland who wore the

1414
01:18:44.840 --> 01:18:47.600
<v Speaker 1>blue and. White and we will find out more about

1415
01:18:47.640 --> 01:18:50.680
<v Speaker 1>What Anthony white has to say as the season gets

1416
01:18:50.720 --> 01:18:54.239
<v Speaker 1>closer and as it gets, underway AND b thank you as.

1417
01:18:54.319 --> 01:18:58.079
<v Speaker 1>Always you can listen On Sunday Morning Sports talk For

1418
01:18:58.239 --> 01:19:02.880
<v Speaker 1>Anthony white and it's always. Entertaining each. Week you guys

1419
01:19:03.000 --> 01:19:05.319
<v Speaker 1>kind of wrap up the week and then look, ahead you,

1420
01:19:05.399 --> 01:19:09.039
<v Speaker 1>know just talk, football but you can also hear them

1421
01:19:09.119 --> 01:19:12.359
<v Speaker 1>discuss basketball and the like and tell everybody how to

1422
01:19:12.439 --> 01:19:13.520
<v Speaker 1>reach you On twitter OR.

1423
01:19:13.760 --> 01:19:17.960
<v Speaker 3>X we are a dot YIT a D o T

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01:19:18.239 --> 01:19:21.000
<v Speaker 3>W H I T e is my personal with our,

1425
01:19:21.119 --> 01:19:24.880
<v Speaker 3>shows with my podcast and any other sports information That

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01:19:25.000 --> 01:19:28.760
<v Speaker 3>Van hi's my cover which IS V style seventeen and

1427
01:19:28.920 --> 01:19:32.359
<v Speaker 3>social media The locker four one one at The locker

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01:19:32.439 --> 01:19:34.680
<v Speaker 3>four one one on all social media platforms for us

1429
01:19:34.720 --> 01:19:37.840
<v Speaker 3>to talk sports and have a raw cut look into

1430
01:19:37.880 --> 01:19:39.760
<v Speaker 3>the locker room. Conversation that's.

1431
01:19:39.880 --> 01:19:42.439
<v Speaker 1>Right we're Big Van hiles fans over here as. Well

1432
01:19:42.840 --> 01:19:44.920
<v Speaker 1>M B i do appreciate the, time, brother thank you so.

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01:19:45.039 --> 01:19:46.840
<v Speaker 3>MUCH i appreciate.

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01:19:46.920 --> 01:19:49.960
<v Speaker 1>You end up next number two Of aaron gershin here

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01:19:49.960 --> 01:19:52.920
<v Speaker 1>on The big One siders six THIRTY Wlap.

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01:20:00.880 --> 01:20:49.600
<v Speaker 7>Tata. Pact contact.

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01:20:39.720 --> 01:20:42.880
<v Speaker 4>The, shop.

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01:20:44.520 --> 01:21:32.279
<v Speaker 7>Then back, outstation Then don
