WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.320 --> 00:00:03.560 All right, let's get at draft time Monday afternoon, ten 2 00:00:03.600 --> 00:00:05.639 minutes past the hour, at two o'clock. It is a 3 00:00:05.679 --> 00:00:09.599 lovely day outside. It's about eighty degrees and sunny here 4 00:00:09.599 --> 00:00:12.160 in downtown Salt Lake City, Utah. About one hundred and 5 00:00:12.240 --> 00:00:16.280 seven degrees in the studio. But we traverse on. We 6 00:00:16.359 --> 00:00:20.800 are pirates, okay, masonry, and here just swinging the pick 7 00:00:20.800 --> 00:00:22.719 in the X mine for the next well not four 8 00:00:22.719 --> 00:00:25.600 hours today. We say good night early, don't we. We're 9 00:00:25.600 --> 00:00:28.559 gonna say good night about five o'clock tonight, and then 10 00:00:28.600 --> 00:00:32.000 we're gonna send it over to ESPN Radio's live coverage 11 00:00:32.520 --> 00:00:36.439 of the NBA Draft lottery. It could be one of 12 00:00:36.479 --> 00:00:40.560 the biggest days in the history of the Utah Jazz. 13 00:00:40.600 --> 00:00:44.840 It could be I believe actually Smith Ryan's wife, of 14 00:00:44.840 --> 00:00:47.479 course Smith Entertainment Group. I believe actually will be the 15 00:00:47.560 --> 00:00:50.880 jazz rep our buddy Andy Larson boots on the ground 16 00:00:50.920 --> 00:00:52.759 from the Salt Lake Tribune. I'm sure we'll get Andy 17 00:00:52.759 --> 00:00:55.560 on this week to talk about his experience. Jazz have 18 00:00:55.679 --> 00:00:58.719 a fourteen percent chance of grabbing the number one overall pick. 19 00:00:58.759 --> 00:01:02.280 They cannot fall past five, Okay, So a lot of 20 00:01:02.520 --> 00:01:04.920 analysts believe this is a five player draft, so the 21 00:01:05.000 --> 00:01:09.480 Jazz should be able to grab a big time talent 22 00:01:09.560 --> 00:01:11.920 no matter where they're drafting. Of course, the prize is 23 00:01:12.920 --> 00:01:17.959 Young Cooper Flag from Duke University. Cooper turned eighteen, I 24 00:01:18.000 --> 00:01:20.319 believe it was in January or December, so he's still 25 00:01:20.400 --> 00:01:26.120 very young. But Dylan Harper, as Bailey, vj Edgecombe, a 26 00:01:26.120 --> 00:01:29.000 lot of other names, and we'll talk about them on 27 00:01:29.040 --> 00:01:30.920 the show today to get you ready for tonight and 28 00:01:31.000 --> 00:01:33.200 help you understand and get to know potentially who these 29 00:01:33.200 --> 00:01:36.920 players are. And hopefully Jazz will be able to get 30 00:01:36.959 --> 00:01:38.640 a little luck in a way that they have never 31 00:01:38.719 --> 00:01:40.480 been able to get luck over the course of their 32 00:01:40.519 --> 00:01:44.879 fifty year existence. So big, big day, big night for 33 00:01:44.959 --> 00:01:46.959 Jazz fans. We got you covered on the show today. 34 00:01:47.000 --> 00:01:49.560 Then of course we'll have the covered live and then 35 00:01:49.640 --> 00:01:53.480 obviously the NBA playoffs continue to be phenomenally entertaining. But 36 00:01:53.560 --> 00:01:56.920 the big news that broke today is, according to Sham 37 00:01:56.959 --> 00:02:01.560 sure aren't you from ESPN to Sante Tocoombo for the 38 00:02:01.560 --> 00:02:04.400 first time is open to a trade. Now we'll get 39 00:02:04.400 --> 00:02:08.199 into this because topically with the NBA draft lottery today, 40 00:02:08.199 --> 00:02:12.439 there's some interesting synergies as far as the position the 41 00:02:12.520 --> 00:02:16.879 Jazz find themselves in now, and why nobody this morning 42 00:02:17.840 --> 00:02:20.039 that I listened to were watched going over the myriad 43 00:02:20.080 --> 00:02:22.960 of trade options for Giannis even uttered the Jazz as 44 00:02:23.000 --> 00:02:25.560 an option. Okay, so we'll get into some of that 45 00:02:25.560 --> 00:02:28.199 stuff on the show today and talk some NBA basketball 46 00:02:28.719 --> 00:02:32.879 and talk some big picture NBA playoff stuff. After the 47 00:02:32.919 --> 00:02:35.840 lottery is over tonight, it will be tied for more 48 00:02:35.879 --> 00:02:40.199 playoff basketball. This is This might be the biggest game 49 00:02:40.240 --> 00:02:42.360 the New York Knicks had played since nineteen ninety nine. 50 00:02:42.400 --> 00:02:44.560 And I'm not even kidding. I know it's only the 51 00:02:44.599 --> 00:02:47.439 second round, but that's how anemic this organization has been, 52 00:02:47.520 --> 00:02:51.080 more or less for about twenty five years. And I'm 53 00:02:51.080 --> 00:02:52.919 gonna go out on a limb. Not a hot take guy. 54 00:02:53.000 --> 00:02:54.719 You guys know that by now. But I think whoever 55 00:02:54.759 --> 00:02:56.879 wins the game tonight wins this series. Okay, we'll get 56 00:02:56.879 --> 00:03:00.039 into it. Nick Celtics five point thirty Mountain Time on 57 00:03:00.039 --> 00:03:02.599 on ESPN. Of course, the Next still lead that series 58 00:03:02.639 --> 00:03:06.840 two to one. After getting smoked at home by Boston, 59 00:03:06.919 --> 00:03:08.599 next went up to TD Gard and grabbed a couple, 60 00:03:08.639 --> 00:03:12.199 then lost at MSG. Talked about this yesterday. Boston is 61 00:03:12.280 --> 00:03:14.680 historically good on the road. They're actually much better on 62 00:03:14.719 --> 00:03:17.039 the road than at home this year. I still am 63 00:03:17.120 --> 00:03:19.240 very skeptical of the nex ability to get to a 64 00:03:19.240 --> 00:03:22.039 couple of more games against this team unless injuries happen 65 00:03:22.439 --> 00:03:26.120 and then interesting game. Minnesota leads the Warriors two to 66 00:03:26.159 --> 00:03:29.080 one now and Golden State they've just got to get 67 00:03:29.120 --> 00:03:31.599 one more and give Steph a little more time for 68 00:03:31.680 --> 00:03:34.560 him to come back. So two really big games in 69 00:03:34.599 --> 00:03:37.800 pro basketball tonight. Fun week. Last week if you are 70 00:03:37.800 --> 00:03:40.560 a fan of the Utah Mammoth, the NHL team we 71 00:03:40.560 --> 00:03:43.400 have in our market where we could go. We found 72 00:03:43.400 --> 00:03:46.439 out that the Utah Mammoth will be picking fourth in 73 00:03:46.520 --> 00:03:49.800 the NHL draft. They moved up ten spots, so the 74 00:03:49.879 --> 00:03:53.080 Jazz will try to duplicate that luck tonight. And then 75 00:03:53.280 --> 00:03:55.599 we have the official name change from the Utah Hockey 76 00:03:55.599 --> 00:03:58.919 Club to the Utah Mammoth. Stanley Cup playoffs rolling along, 77 00:03:59.039 --> 00:04:01.000 I believe I read today almost half of the games 78 00:04:01.039 --> 00:04:03.360 have been decided by only one goal, a lot of 79 00:04:03.439 --> 00:04:05.280 late game heroics and such. So we'll do a little 80 00:04:05.360 --> 00:04:09.120 NHL on the program today. Some NFL offseason stuff, looks 81 00:04:09.199 --> 00:04:14.039 like the Bengals and Trey Hendrickson have cut off contract talks, 82 00:04:14.080 --> 00:04:15.879 which is wild to me. Trey has more sacks than 83 00:04:15.879 --> 00:04:18.079 any player in the NFL of the past couple of years. 84 00:04:18.160 --> 00:04:21.920 So some NFL offseason's Rookie MIDI camp. We saw Caleb 85 00:04:22.000 --> 00:04:24.839 Lohner for the first time in a Denver Bronco jersey 86 00:04:25.759 --> 00:04:28.319 and should Her Sanders is throwing in Cleveland. So a 87 00:04:28.319 --> 00:04:30.759 lot of the rookies are getting their feet wet learning 88 00:04:30.759 --> 00:04:34.079 what it's like to be a professional football player. RSL 89 00:04:34.120 --> 00:04:36.399 with a draw over the weekend. Another wonder strike from 90 00:04:36.399 --> 00:04:39.360 Diego Luna who now has seven goals through twelve games. 91 00:04:39.399 --> 00:04:42.560 And that kid is just his star is shining. It 92 00:04:42.560 --> 00:04:44.560 was another great goals with his left foot off the 93 00:04:45.920 --> 00:04:48.000 post and went into the back of the net. RSL 94 00:04:48.040 --> 00:04:51.319 with another red card our guy Willy Goles shout out 95 00:04:51.360 --> 00:04:53.800 Williegata red card for Willie so he'll be out on 96 00:04:53.839 --> 00:04:56.399 Wednesday against Portland. So well, do a little soccer on 97 00:04:56.439 --> 00:04:58.879 the show today as well. We are jam packed, going 98 00:04:58.959 --> 00:05:01.120 to be back on air after taking Friday off. Was 99 00:05:01.160 --> 00:05:03.680 down south playing little golf in Saint George. Beautiful time 100 00:05:03.720 --> 00:05:06.199 down there as always. Maybe we'll do a little story 101 00:05:06.199 --> 00:05:08.639 time later for board but we're jam packed. First guest 102 00:05:08.680 --> 00:05:11.839 today will be Kurt Schmidt, the technical director for Real 103 00:05:11.959 --> 00:05:15.759 Salt Lake. Kurt's take on the current form of the 104 00:05:15.759 --> 00:05:17.759 club and his hopes for the rest of the way, 105 00:05:17.759 --> 00:05:19.800 and maybe a little peek into the summer transfer window. 106 00:05:19.800 --> 00:05:22.519 The next time RSL is able to add talent to 107 00:05:22.519 --> 00:05:25.160 the group, it'll bring in Tom Haberstrow today NBA Daily 108 00:05:25.199 --> 00:05:28.399 Assists style. We'll do some draft lottery, we'll do some jazz, 109 00:05:28.439 --> 00:05:30.600 we'll get ready for the game tonight and talk about 110 00:05:30.639 --> 00:05:33.439 this news that Giannis might be on the move. Good 111 00:05:33.439 --> 00:05:35.120 friend of the show, Tony Parks, the voice of the 112 00:05:35.160 --> 00:05:36.959 Salt Lake Bees, will join us in the studio. We'll 113 00:05:36.959 --> 00:05:38.839 do a lot of jazz, a lot of lottery with Tony. 114 00:05:39.600 --> 00:05:41.199 So we'll get to a bunch of stuff with Tony 115 00:05:41.240 --> 00:05:44.160 on the program today, and then we will say goodnight 116 00:05:44.279 --> 00:05:47.079 at five o'clock straight up and send you live to 117 00:05:47.319 --> 00:05:51.120 ESPN's coverage of the Draft lottery. So Kurt Schmidt, Tom Haberstrow, 118 00:05:51.160 --> 00:05:53.920 Tony Parks, Me Spence Check, it's all of you, the 119 00:05:53.920 --> 00:05:57.680 great listeners, and that guy Porter Larson on a Monday. 120 00:05:57.800 --> 00:05:59.959 Happy Monday, buddy, how was your weekend? It was swell. 121 00:06:00.040 --> 00:06:03.040 How was yours? It was good at desert in the desert, 122 00:06:03.120 --> 00:06:06.000 we had nice weather. Three straight days of golf. Noise, 123 00:06:06.079 --> 00:06:08.279 they'll tread off the tires the lower back. You know, 124 00:06:08.319 --> 00:06:10.480 that's what happens when you get older. But did you 125 00:06:10.519 --> 00:06:14.680 play fifty four holes of golf? Is that three rounds? 126 00:06:14.800 --> 00:06:15.040 Yes? 127 00:06:15.199 --> 00:06:17.399 Yeah, three straight days, so fifty four total holes? 128 00:06:17.439 --> 00:06:20.759 Yeah, one one more and we'll get that score up there. 129 00:06:20.759 --> 00:06:22.480 We'll see, we'll see how close you are to can 130 00:06:22.680 --> 00:06:23.600 contend for a major. 131 00:06:23.720 --> 00:06:25.720 I'm not close to contending for a major. I did 132 00:06:25.759 --> 00:06:27.639 break eighty a copper Rock though, that felt good. I 133 00:06:27.639 --> 00:06:29.079 shot a seventy eight. That felt okay. 134 00:06:29.199 --> 00:06:33.000 That's a that's a that's a legitimately good score, regardless 135 00:06:33.120 --> 00:06:36.399 kind of the like an easy course. If you're still shooting, 136 00:06:36.600 --> 00:06:40.519 you know, lower single digits, that's a that's impressive. 137 00:06:40.560 --> 00:06:44.240 Mess job. Michael Jordan hired as a commentator on NBC 138 00:06:44.480 --> 00:06:47.399 Once upon a time, A, uh, didn't you caddy for 139 00:06:47.480 --> 00:06:49.240 him or something? And I remember in that correct. 140 00:06:49.000 --> 00:06:51.000 There's a there's a few kind of random connections, right 141 00:06:51.040 --> 00:06:53.680 My my dad did electrical for him for a moment, 142 00:06:53.720 --> 00:06:56.319 and then yeah, I ended up with the connections at 143 00:06:56.319 --> 00:06:59.399 a at a golf course and worked with him. I 144 00:06:59.480 --> 00:07:02.839 was a member services coordinator at one point, so I 145 00:07:02.959 --> 00:07:07.600 literally was sometimes taking Michael Jordan to his tea box 146 00:07:07.720 --> 00:07:12.560 and sometimes whiskey and cigars to them as well. And 147 00:07:12.600 --> 00:07:15.199 I'll be honest with you, I'm super surprised that guy 148 00:07:15.399 --> 00:07:20.160 likes his retirement. Even when he was like gainfully employed 149 00:07:20.160 --> 00:07:21.600 with the Hornets thing. 150 00:07:22.560 --> 00:07:25.079 He is never around, eh. 151 00:07:24.639 --> 00:07:26.600 Like I think I told you this story on air 152 00:07:26.639 --> 00:07:29.680 before the the off season where they had like the 153 00:07:29.680 --> 00:07:32.000 most cap room ever and they just signed Nick Patum. 154 00:07:32.759 --> 00:07:35.079 He was golfing the whole week. I watched him. 155 00:07:35.160 --> 00:07:38.759 I was there, and like, if you're mj you have 156 00:07:38.839 --> 00:07:42.560 an opportunity with your like your person to have an 157 00:07:42.560 --> 00:07:45.040 effect on those types of situations, and he just didn't. 158 00:07:45.079 --> 00:07:45.360 Really. 159 00:07:46.040 --> 00:07:46.560 It's funny. 160 00:07:46.560 --> 00:07:49.759 The most that I've seen him like put into something 161 00:07:49.959 --> 00:07:52.800 in his retirement is NASCAR. He has two NASCAR teams 162 00:07:52.839 --> 00:07:56.079 that he's like pretty involved in, and this is a 163 00:07:57.519 --> 00:07:58.120 difference there. 164 00:07:58.519 --> 00:08:00.000 The media thing is is certainly new. 165 00:08:01.399 --> 00:08:03.480 I'm gonna be interested in it because, like you, I 166 00:08:03.600 --> 00:08:05.480 just don't know how much he's gonna put into it 167 00:08:05.639 --> 00:08:08.199 and how interested he might be. But that might be 168 00:08:08.240 --> 00:08:10.079 a really fun Michael Jordan to get on a mic 169 00:08:10.160 --> 00:08:12.199 for a few for a few shows, Oh for sure. 170 00:08:12.399 --> 00:08:14.439 And if you need a little liquid courage because I 171 00:08:14.480 --> 00:08:16.800 think he's yes, I think is it tequila with him? 172 00:08:16.839 --> 00:08:21.439 Or is it wis it's tequila rum whiskey it I 173 00:08:21.439 --> 00:08:23.959 don't know. It depends on which crew he's with, because 174 00:08:23.959 --> 00:08:28.720 there's like a it looks like a a crew like 175 00:08:28.800 --> 00:08:31.800 overtakes the golf course when you're with MJ. Because you 176 00:08:31.839 --> 00:08:34.679 don't have two people to a to a cart. They 177 00:08:34.720 --> 00:08:37.279 all have their own and they all just kind of 178 00:08:37.320 --> 00:08:39.159 drive wherever they want. It's kind of fun to see 179 00:08:39.159 --> 00:08:40.960 because they did play like eight people on a hole 180 00:08:40.960 --> 00:08:44.440 at the same time, and it's kind of a party 181 00:08:44.440 --> 00:08:44.759 out there. 182 00:08:44.799 --> 00:08:47.320 It's good to be Michael Jordan. Do you remember when 183 00:08:47.480 --> 00:08:51.639 randomly Karl Malone just started showing up around the Jazz 184 00:08:51.759 --> 00:08:55.440 was like, I should be an assistant coach here. Yeah, 185 00:08:55.480 --> 00:08:58.080 and Randy Rigby, bless his heart, sweetest man in the world. 186 00:08:58.200 --> 00:09:00.519 Is that sure? Why wouldn't we want Carl involved? And 187 00:09:00.559 --> 00:09:02.159 I remember when I heard the announcement, I'm like, that 188 00:09:02.240 --> 00:09:05.759 won't last. Like being a coach is hard, it's hard work. 189 00:09:05.840 --> 00:09:07.320 To be a coach in the NBA. I don't care 190 00:09:07.320 --> 00:09:10.240 who you are. And after two weeks Carl was like, yeah, 191 00:09:10.279 --> 00:09:12.080 you know what, I kind of like hunting in my freedom. 192 00:09:12.480 --> 00:09:14.799 Best of luck. Derek Favors and his canter Rudy go like, 193 00:09:15.039 --> 00:09:18.000 I'm not doing this. Part of me feels like MJ's 194 00:09:18.039 --> 00:09:21.240 gonna realize what it's like to have to show up 195 00:09:21.279 --> 00:09:24.759 on time and not have the freedom that he typically has, 196 00:09:24.799 --> 00:09:26.559 and I don't. I'm not sure that'll last. 197 00:09:26.559 --> 00:09:26.919 We'll see. 198 00:09:27.200 --> 00:09:29.120 That's kind of where I'm at. I'm excited for it. 199 00:09:29.159 --> 00:09:31.279 I think it'll be cool, it'll be fun, it'll be entertaining. 200 00:09:31.320 --> 00:09:34.159 But I do wonder if it's long standing, if it's 201 00:09:34.200 --> 00:09:36.159 kind of this one off thing, because yeah, like you have, 202 00:09:36.679 --> 00:09:39.879 I've noticed Mike likes his free time his retirement. 203 00:09:39.960 --> 00:09:42.840 Yes he does. 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I think 234 00:11:03.120 --> 00:11:05.159 Jalen's gonna have a big game tonight. Prize picks, run 235 00:11:05.279 --> 00:11:08.919 your game all right? Coming up in let's see less 236 00:11:08.960 --> 00:11:12.159 than three hours. About two hours and forty minutes in 237 00:11:12.279 --> 00:11:16.840 change is tonight's NBA Draft lottery. Now, what you don't 238 00:11:16.879 --> 00:11:18.759 want to be is a fan of a team where 239 00:11:18.799 --> 00:11:21.440 this is the most exciting night on your calendar. You 240 00:11:21.440 --> 00:11:23.919 don't want to have that as part of your reality 241 00:11:23.919 --> 00:11:25.720 if you're a fan of a pro basketball team. But 242 00:11:25.720 --> 00:11:28.360 that's where we're at with the Utah Jazz. It is 243 00:11:28.440 --> 00:11:31.240 a big, big night because it really could shape the 244 00:11:31.279 --> 00:11:34.159 future and change your trajectory. That the Jazz are on 245 00:11:34.279 --> 00:11:36.600 right now for a few different reasons. The most obvious 246 00:11:36.639 --> 00:11:40.480 reason this Cooper flag is awesome and very young and 247 00:11:40.679 --> 00:11:43.960 built as a modern day cornerstone type player with great 248 00:11:44.039 --> 00:11:48.000 size and multiple positions, can guard a bunch of different positions, 249 00:11:48.039 --> 00:11:51.039 can put it on the floor he is already a 250 00:11:51.120 --> 00:11:53.919 capable outside shooter. He finishes with force at the rim, 251 00:11:53.960 --> 00:11:57.639 and he's a really really good defensive player both at 252 00:11:57.639 --> 00:11:59.279 the rim and on the perimeter where you can switch 253 00:11:59.279 --> 00:12:01.799 and have a bunch of differ actions Like simply getting 254 00:12:01.840 --> 00:12:05.039 Cooper flag would be a massive, massive thing for this organization. 255 00:12:05.120 --> 00:12:09.039 But today is interesting to discuss what tonight could mean. Okay, 256 00:12:09.440 --> 00:12:11.679 so if you missed it about I don't know, two 257 00:12:11.799 --> 00:12:14.039 or three hours ago, sham Charti comes out of his 258 00:12:14.080 --> 00:12:17.480 tweet that Giannis Ante de Combo is now open to 259 00:12:17.559 --> 00:12:20.840 being traded from the Milwaukee Bucks to a new team. 260 00:12:21.799 --> 00:12:23.600 Reminds me a little bit of Kevin Garnett. For you 261 00:12:23.639 --> 00:12:26.720 older NBA fans, KG, the big ticket back in the day, 262 00:12:26.759 --> 00:12:30.720 gave Minnesota about a decade and change of his career 263 00:12:30.960 --> 00:12:34.600 and was awesome for them, and they never were able 264 00:12:34.679 --> 00:12:36.960 to build a team around him that was championship worthy. 265 00:12:37.000 --> 00:12:38.679 They had one really good team that went to the 266 00:12:38.720 --> 00:12:41.879 Western Conference Finals when they made some moves to grab 267 00:12:41.919 --> 00:12:44.759 Sam Cassell and Latrell Spreewell former Nick Whether he was 268 00:12:44.759 --> 00:12:47.320 in Minnesota with KG, and they went to the conference finals. 269 00:12:47.360 --> 00:12:49.799 But that was as close as KG got to the 270 00:12:49.840 --> 00:12:52.639 trophy in Minnesota. So after a decade, he's like, look, 271 00:12:52.639 --> 00:12:55.919 I'm getting older. I gave you ten great years and 272 00:12:56.120 --> 00:12:58.360 I want to go try to win a championship, so 273 00:12:58.480 --> 00:13:01.120 I would like you to trade me to An. And 274 00:13:01.159 --> 00:13:03.279 that's when Danny ahe pulled off one of the great 275 00:13:03.360 --> 00:13:07.360 trades of that era, grabbing Kevin Garnett in Boston a 276 00:13:07.440 --> 00:13:09.200 pair with Paul Pierce, and then they made the deal 277 00:13:09.240 --> 00:13:11.080 with grab Ray Allen and that was a really, really 278 00:13:11.120 --> 00:13:14.279 good Celtic team that won a championship and made kg 279 00:13:14.440 --> 00:13:17.240 an NBA champ. Right. So yeah, the difference here is 280 00:13:17.240 --> 00:13:22.480 Giannis has won a championship in Milwaukee, but after that 281 00:13:22.519 --> 00:13:26.639 twenty twenty one championship season, they have one playoff win, 282 00:13:26.759 --> 00:13:30.240 They've won one series since their trophy, and they've lost 283 00:13:30.279 --> 00:13:32.600 in the first round for three straight years now. Mark 284 00:13:32.720 --> 00:13:35.799 Lazari is a very well respected owner that appears to 285 00:13:35.840 --> 00:13:39.559 be a very decent man and kind of unlike the 286 00:13:39.600 --> 00:13:43.759 Denver Nuggets, who I still think when Nikola Jokich's career 287 00:13:44.080 --> 00:13:46.200 is over, I think we're gonna have a real conversation 288 00:13:46.279 --> 00:13:49.279 about whether or not Denver did enough to surround Jokic 289 00:13:49.480 --> 00:13:52.000 for a long enough period of time to see exactly 290 00:13:52.039 --> 00:13:54.320 what he could be as the cornerstone of a team 291 00:13:54.360 --> 00:13:56.759 with really good teammates. Remember, Nicola Jokic is still not 292 00:13:56.799 --> 00:13:59.440 played with another All Star in Denver. Yet they are 293 00:13:59.519 --> 00:14:03.919 still in the playoffs. They're tied to too with Oklahoma City. 294 00:14:03.919 --> 00:14:05.559 I don't think they're gonna win the series, but a 295 00:14:05.600 --> 00:14:08.240 couple of years removed from winning a championship. It's the 296 00:14:08.279 --> 00:14:11.320 brilliance of Jokich, but Denver, to me, has done him 297 00:14:11.320 --> 00:14:14.159 a big time to service. Milwaukee did not do that 298 00:14:14.200 --> 00:14:17.960 with Yannis. Once they realized they needed to change something 299 00:14:18.039 --> 00:14:21.000 to probably give themselves the best chance of holding on 300 00:14:21.080 --> 00:14:23.399 to Giannis, they went and they made a big time 301 00:14:23.440 --> 00:14:25.480 trade and paid a lot of money and are on 302 00:14:25.519 --> 00:14:28.080 the hook for a lot of money for our local legend, 303 00:14:28.159 --> 00:14:31.720 Damian Lillard, who unfortunately will probably miss all of the 304 00:14:31.759 --> 00:14:34.879 next season. And if he comes back, will he look 305 00:14:34.919 --> 00:14:36.879 the same? You know at that age in Achilles is 306 00:14:36.919 --> 00:14:41.679 just a tough thing. So so I understand this dynamic 307 00:14:41.720 --> 00:14:44.159 with Giannis, especially if Dame's on the sideline, like you 308 00:14:44.279 --> 00:14:47.399 just don't have a chance and Milwaukee does not have 309 00:14:47.440 --> 00:14:50.519 a lot of draft capital. The next trade that they 310 00:14:50.519 --> 00:14:52.639 can or achise me. The next pick that they can trade, 311 00:14:53.080 --> 00:14:55.759 they can trade one of their twenty thirty one or 312 00:14:55.759 --> 00:14:58.799 their twenty thirty two first rounders. So the next pick 313 00:14:58.840 --> 00:15:01.360 they can trade is in six in seven years. You 314 00:15:01.399 --> 00:15:04.480 cannot trade consecutive first round picks. That's why they could 315 00:15:04.480 --> 00:15:06.960 only choose one or the other. But they don't have 316 00:15:07.039 --> 00:15:09.879 a lot to improve their team with. So the reason 317 00:15:09.919 --> 00:15:12.120 I bring it up through the paradigm and the prism 318 00:15:12.200 --> 00:15:17.039 of Okay Tonight's draft lottery. Ultimately, after I saw the 319 00:15:17.080 --> 00:15:19.600 tweet from Shams, I went and listened to some serious 320 00:15:19.759 --> 00:15:23.360 XMMBA radio guys. I turned on some of the daily 321 00:15:24.120 --> 00:15:28.559 ESPN and Fox NBA shows, and ultimately I feel like 322 00:15:28.879 --> 00:15:33.639 almost every team was mentioned that is in this space 323 00:15:33.840 --> 00:15:38.120 of having a compendium, shout out trade of assets, picks, 324 00:15:39.200 --> 00:15:42.480 the salary cap space like Brooklyn was brought up over 325 00:15:42.559 --> 00:15:45.919 and over and over, and nobody brought up the Jazz Okay. 326 00:15:46.120 --> 00:15:49.919 So and here's why, it's actually pretty simple all these 327 00:15:49.960 --> 00:15:53.200 other teams. So the other interesting dynamic here is the 328 00:15:53.320 --> 00:15:56.440 front runner, according to what you know Bobby Marks was 329 00:15:56.440 --> 00:16:00.159 talking about today. He believes it's Oklahoma City, Okay. So 330 00:16:00.200 --> 00:16:02.080 the other thing that's being brought up here. Where the 331 00:16:02.159 --> 00:16:04.480 Jazz should at least have a mention is we're not 332 00:16:04.600 --> 00:16:08.279 hearing Miami. We're not hearing New York. We're not hearing 333 00:16:08.399 --> 00:16:12.960 Los Angeles. We're hearing Oklahoma City, smaller market than the Jazz, 334 00:16:13.080 --> 00:16:15.519 smaller market in Salt Lake. We're hearing San Antonio. I 335 00:16:15.559 --> 00:16:18.399 always remind everybody San Antonio is actually a smaller market, 336 00:16:18.679 --> 00:16:21.080 and I don't mean to disparage these other cities. And 337 00:16:21.120 --> 00:16:23.120 maybe I can get a little defensive because I've lived 338 00:16:23.159 --> 00:16:25.519 in Salt Lake for over twenty years now, and I 339 00:16:25.679 --> 00:16:29.000 understand the oddities of our market and the dynamic that 340 00:16:29.080 --> 00:16:31.639 makes this kind of an interesting place for certain people 341 00:16:31.679 --> 00:16:35.279 to try to exist. It's saw Lake is so much 342 00:16:35.279 --> 00:16:37.960 better in San Antonio. It's so much better in Oklahoma City, 343 00:16:38.000 --> 00:16:42.639 places I've been multiple times. And so ultimately, what this 344 00:16:42.679 --> 00:16:46.440 comes down to is Milwaukee is probably not going to 345 00:16:46.480 --> 00:16:48.399 be in a space where they just want to go 346 00:16:48.440 --> 00:16:51.279 all in and then rebuild. They're probably looking for a 347 00:16:51.320 --> 00:16:55.320 trade partner like Oklahoma City, who actually has more draft 348 00:16:55.360 --> 00:16:58.000 assets than the Jazz. But here's the roup. Okay, here's 349 00:16:58.000 --> 00:17:01.799 where the Jazz have failed Oklahoma City throughout their rebuild. 350 00:17:02.159 --> 00:17:06.400 They have stockpiled good young players. So if you're Milwaukee 351 00:17:06.759 --> 00:17:10.160 and Sam Presty calls you about Yannis, you can say, okay, 352 00:17:10.200 --> 00:17:14.839 I want five unprotected picks, right, three to five, you know, 353 00:17:15.279 --> 00:17:18.400 three picks, two swaps. It's probably gonna take like Brooklyn 354 00:17:18.960 --> 00:17:22.359 traded mckel bridges for five picks. Janis obviously is twice 355 00:17:22.400 --> 00:17:25.119 the player mckel Bridges is, all due respect, it's probably 356 00:17:25.119 --> 00:17:27.599 gonna take five picks. And then they're probably going to say, okay, 357 00:17:27.680 --> 00:17:30.960 and we got to talk about Jaalen Williams. Sam will 358 00:17:30.960 --> 00:17:34.400 say Sga is untouchable, right, but he can you know, 359 00:17:34.519 --> 00:17:37.119 Sam can throw in a Jalen Williams maybe even you 360 00:17:37.160 --> 00:17:40.240 look at Chet right, you do that because Jannis is 361 00:17:40.319 --> 00:17:43.240 thirty years old. He takes incredible care of his body. 362 00:17:43.759 --> 00:17:46.200 You do trade a Jalen Williams or a chet Holme 363 00:17:46.240 --> 00:17:49.480 Grin and five unprotected first for five years of Shay 364 00:17:49.519 --> 00:17:52.440 and Giannis. You do that. Okay, So the Jazz have 365 00:17:52.519 --> 00:17:55.759 the draft assets, but who are you really gonna If 366 00:17:55.759 --> 00:18:00.759 you're Milwaukee and you can talk to San Antono, who 367 00:18:00.799 --> 00:18:02.880 has a lot of really good, exciting young players, you 368 00:18:02.920 --> 00:18:05.519 can talk to Oklahoma City who has a lot of good, 369 00:18:05.599 --> 00:18:08.359 really exciting young players. Who are you going to ask 370 00:18:08.400 --> 00:18:12.160 for from the Jazz outside of marketing? And I love Lowry, 371 00:18:12.160 --> 00:18:14.160 but that's not enough to get it done. Jalen Williams 372 00:18:14.240 --> 00:18:16.400 is a better player than Larry Marketing in my opinion. 373 00:18:16.960 --> 00:18:19.519 So while the Jazz have all of these assets and 374 00:18:19.599 --> 00:18:22.559 clean books, they just don't have tangible pieces. They don't 375 00:18:22.559 --> 00:18:26.359 have good young players, like nobody knows who Keyante is 376 00:18:26.440 --> 00:18:29.279 and I think Isaiah's got a little something. But that's 377 00:18:29.319 --> 00:18:33.359 what makes tonight interesting, and that's what makes tonight massive 378 00:18:33.359 --> 00:18:35.480 if you're a jazz fan, because what could change everything 379 00:18:35.599 --> 00:18:38.519 right away is the Jazz getting the number one overall pick. 380 00:18:38.559 --> 00:18:41.400 Because when you have good young players, other players want 381 00:18:41.400 --> 00:18:44.720 to come play for you. Right now, there's nobody that 382 00:18:44.799 --> 00:18:48.119 is attracting anybody that's on the Jazz roster. So that's 383 00:18:48.160 --> 00:18:50.519 what makes tonight really really big. We're about two and 384 00:18:50.559 --> 00:18:53.680 a half hours away coming off and draw another goal 385 00:18:53.720 --> 00:18:57.960 from Diego, technical director for the local soccer club. Here 386 00:18:57.960 --> 00:19:00.759 for Raal salt Lake. I always funny. Catch up Schmid Kurt, 387 00:19:00.799 --> 00:19:02.000 happy money buddy. How are we doing? 388 00:19:03.359 --> 00:19:04.519 I'm doing well? How are you? 389 00:19:04.599 --> 00:19:07.359 I'm good? Buddy, I'm good right out of the gates. 390 00:19:07.799 --> 00:19:11.079 Is Diego better already than you ever thought he could be? 391 00:19:11.319 --> 00:19:13.559 Like when you first saw him play and started to 392 00:19:13.599 --> 00:19:17.240 scout him, Is he has he even superseded your expectations 393 00:19:17.240 --> 00:19:17.599 for him? 394 00:19:19.039 --> 00:19:23.559 You know, that's a good question. He's definitely better now 395 00:19:23.799 --> 00:19:25.319 than I thought he would be part of the first 396 00:19:25.359 --> 00:19:28.799 time I saw him play, but as we scouted him 397 00:19:28.799 --> 00:19:32.680 more in USL and for me, the moment where it 398 00:19:32.759 --> 00:19:36.880 really clicked was actually down in Argentina that he was 399 00:19:36.880 --> 00:19:39.880 at a U twenty camp and I was down there 400 00:19:40.279 --> 00:19:44.279 scouting some games and one of them was the U 401 00:19:44.279 --> 00:19:47.960 twenty's playing River Plate Reserves, and so he came off 402 00:19:48.000 --> 00:19:51.200 the bench in that game, and they didn't really bring 403 00:19:51.240 --> 00:19:53.240 a lot of strikers, so I think they only had 404 00:19:53.759 --> 00:19:56.000 one nine in the group, and so the nine started 405 00:19:56.039 --> 00:19:58.200 and then they brought Diego on at the nine and 406 00:19:58.799 --> 00:20:01.839 he he just the whole game. And obviously it was 407 00:20:01.880 --> 00:20:04.640 the reserves at River, so it wasn't maybe the most 408 00:20:04.680 --> 00:20:06.359 elite level at the moment, but it's still a pretty 409 00:20:06.359 --> 00:20:09.440 good level for that age group. And uh, and watching 410 00:20:09.519 --> 00:20:12.839 him sort of change the game in that environment just 411 00:20:12.880 --> 00:20:13.359 gave me a. 412 00:20:13.319 --> 00:20:14.759 Real glimpse of what he could do. 413 00:20:15.839 --> 00:20:19.119 It's given the chance and given the right platform, and honestly, 414 00:20:19.400 --> 00:20:22.759 you know, he's he's obviously continuing to fill that. I 415 00:20:22.759 --> 00:20:25.480 don't want to say he's done. I think he's continuing 416 00:20:25.519 --> 00:20:28.119 to grow. You know, you see it every week. But 417 00:20:28.160 --> 00:20:29.680 that was the moment for me. And you know, I 418 00:20:29.720 --> 00:20:33.720 got some some really good feedback on him from from 419 00:20:33.759 --> 00:20:35.640 from my friend of mine who's actually his coach and 420 00:20:35.680 --> 00:20:40.440 opastor at the time, who you know, couldn't couldn't speak 421 00:20:40.440 --> 00:20:42.680 more highly of him as a person, as a character, 422 00:20:42.759 --> 00:20:44.599 and thought that he you know, he was someone that 423 00:20:44.640 --> 00:20:46.519 really had to drive to succeed. And I put a 424 00:20:46.559 --> 00:20:48.039 lot of trust in that as well, So you know, 425 00:20:48.160 --> 00:20:49.799 that was sort of the story there. 426 00:20:50.319 --> 00:20:53.119 Are you aware that there is a very famous Mexican 427 00:20:53.319 --> 00:20:56.160 actor and director named Diego Luna. I just did a 428 00:20:56.160 --> 00:20:58.240 little Google search and I just learned that today. Are 429 00:20:58.240 --> 00:20:58.799 you aware of that? 430 00:21:00.119 --> 00:21:00.759 I am aware. 431 00:21:01.480 --> 00:21:05.599 I had to approve Diego's the meeting of the two 432 00:21:05.599 --> 00:21:06.880 Diegos a few weeks ago. 433 00:21:07.039 --> 00:21:10.039 Oh all right, We'll learned something new every day. Let 434 00:21:10.079 --> 00:21:12.839 me follow up. And you referenced when you were first 435 00:21:12.880 --> 00:21:15.440 scouting him that the club he was with did bring 436 00:21:15.519 --> 00:21:19.200 him on as a nine, and more often than not, 437 00:21:19.599 --> 00:21:22.480 at least from my prism, he has been asked by 438 00:21:22.519 --> 00:21:24.359 you guys to be more of a distributor and more 439 00:21:24.359 --> 00:21:26.240 of a creative player. And you just look at his 440 00:21:26.920 --> 00:21:31.000 stats over the years, more assists. You know, it's not 441 00:21:31.039 --> 00:21:33.200 like he hasn't been scoring goals, but he's scoring goals 442 00:21:33.279 --> 00:21:35.680 at such a high level. Did you know he had 443 00:21:35.720 --> 00:21:38.039 this type of goal scoring prowess because for me, it's 444 00:21:38.039 --> 00:21:41.000 always been more of like a central attacking midfielder that 445 00:21:41.079 --> 00:21:42.839 provides service to the strikers up top. 446 00:21:44.839 --> 00:21:47.039 Yeah, I mean, that's sort of the wrap for an 447 00:21:47.079 --> 00:21:49.599 attacking midfielders. There'supposed to be more provider than goals for 448 00:21:49.920 --> 00:21:53.759 But when he first started in Alpasso as a very 449 00:21:53.799 --> 00:21:58.519 young player, he was playing like a left sided forward essentially, 450 00:21:59.160 --> 00:22:01.559 not really a a ten, not really a nine, but 451 00:22:01.839 --> 00:22:03.759 he would come off the left where you know, he 452 00:22:03.799 --> 00:22:05.839 actually played a lot of time for us as well, 453 00:22:05.960 --> 00:22:08.279 and just create a lot of danger, be very goal 454 00:22:08.359 --> 00:22:11.000 oriented and so you know, I think that was part 455 00:22:11.039 --> 00:22:14.079 of his appeal in USL, part of the things, you know, 456 00:22:14.079 --> 00:22:16.279 one of the things that drew people and drew us 457 00:22:16.680 --> 00:22:18.799 to him. Was his ability to be productive in front 458 00:22:18.799 --> 00:22:22.200 of goal. And I think you know, the question is always, okay, 459 00:22:22.279 --> 00:22:24.200 player is productive at a lower level, can he be 460 00:22:24.240 --> 00:22:27.839 productive at a higher level, And that's the big question mark. 461 00:22:27.880 --> 00:22:29.920 And obviously if if he doesn't score goals at the 462 00:22:29.920 --> 00:22:31.960 lower level, then the odds of him scoring goals at 463 00:22:31.960 --> 00:22:34.200 our level are not very high. But even players that 464 00:22:34.240 --> 00:22:38.480 do score, let's say in the USL, don't always translate. 465 00:22:38.519 --> 00:22:41.400 And so we knew we had that potential in him, 466 00:22:41.440 --> 00:22:44.799 and I think honestly, the first year and a half 467 00:22:44.880 --> 00:22:48.039 or so with us, it was actually about getting him 468 00:22:48.079 --> 00:22:52.119 to be more comfortable being that goal oriented. And I 469 00:22:52.119 --> 00:22:54.640 know Pavel's talked a lot about getting him to work 470 00:22:54.680 --> 00:22:56.559 on the defensive side, and I think that was also 471 00:22:56.559 --> 00:22:57.759 a big part of it. But on the on the 472 00:22:57.799 --> 00:23:00.839 attacking side, it wasn't just about getting your touches. 473 00:23:00.559 --> 00:23:01.079 On the ball. 474 00:23:01.319 --> 00:23:04.400 You know, if him if he's receiving passes, cybrid passes 475 00:23:04.400 --> 00:23:06.599 from center backs like that wasn't something that we were 476 00:23:06.640 --> 00:23:08.279 interested in or that he should be interested in. 477 00:23:08.359 --> 00:23:10.839 It was it was about being decisive. 478 00:23:10.400 --> 00:23:12.960 In the final third and getting him to to add 479 00:23:12.960 --> 00:23:16.640 those counting stats to his to his lineman. So he's 480 00:23:16.880 --> 00:23:19.799 he's obviously done that a lot last year and then 481 00:23:19.799 --> 00:23:21.640 so far for us this year. But yeah, that's one 482 00:23:21.640 --> 00:23:22.680 of the things that truth to him. 483 00:23:22.680 --> 00:23:26.319 Honestly twenty one excuse me, twenty one years old, so 484 00:23:26.640 --> 00:23:29.960 of course, uh, he is not close to a finished product, 485 00:23:30.240 --> 00:23:34.000 what if anything? And you know, there's part of this 486 00:23:34.079 --> 00:23:36.559 current that kind of reminds me of a conversation that 487 00:23:36.640 --> 00:23:39.880 people used to have about Nicki Rimando, where you know, 488 00:23:39.960 --> 00:23:43.880 if Nick was six three six', four probably A european, keeper, 489 00:23:43.960 --> 00:23:46.599 right probably a guy that could have played in a 490 00:23:46.680 --> 00:23:49.359 number of leagues and maybe the biggest of. Leagues And 491 00:23:49.640 --> 00:23:52.680 diego suddenly is not going to change his body. Composition 492 00:23:52.759 --> 00:23:55.839 he's not going to Become Anderson Julio. Fast, so, LIKE 493 00:23:56.319 --> 00:23:59.279 i guess that's just some context BEFORE i ask, you 494 00:23:59.319 --> 00:24:02.799 what do you think Think diego needs to improve? Upon 495 00:24:03.000 --> 00:24:05.599 should he have these aspirations of playing in some of 496 00:24:05.599 --> 00:24:06.440 the bigger leagues In? 497 00:24:06.480 --> 00:24:10.920 Europe, YEAH i don't think it's about adding you, know 498 00:24:11.240 --> 00:24:13.200 a whole lot of different things to his game than 499 00:24:13.200 --> 00:24:15.720 what you see from him right. Now it's really about 500 00:24:15.799 --> 00:24:20.319 being more consistent and the having consistent quality to his 501 00:24:20.359 --> 00:24:22.160 decision making the final third and his actions in the 502 00:24:22.160 --> 00:24:25.680 final third, Especially but you, know as once you show 503 00:24:25.720 --> 00:24:28.039 you can do these, things you, know for for a young, 504 00:24:28.079 --> 00:24:30.440 player the real challenge and one of the reasons people 505 00:24:30.519 --> 00:24:33.759 you just like quote experienced players more is because those 506 00:24:33.799 --> 00:24:37.599 players have learned how to be, consistent how to kind 507 00:24:37.640 --> 00:24:40.240 of perform at a consistent level on a consistent. Basis 508 00:24:40.559 --> 00:24:41.640 and so that's that's. 509 00:24:41.480 --> 00:24:42.359 Really what it is for. 510 00:24:42.440 --> 00:24:46.839 Him and so as he's building, on you, know his statistical, 511 00:24:47.400 --> 00:24:50.720 seasons it's it's just about being, consistent you, know from 512 00:24:51.119 --> 00:24:54.119 from season to, season from game to, game from play 513 00:24:54.160 --> 00:24:56.880 to play within the, game and being switched on all 514 00:24:56.920 --> 00:24:58.480 the time and just you, know being a guy that 515 00:24:58.519 --> 00:25:00.519 people can rely. On, so you, KNOW i think he's 516 00:25:00.519 --> 00:25:03.160 showing that now for. Sure but it isn't about adding 517 00:25:03.200 --> 00:25:04.880 a whole lot of different. THINGS i think he's shown 518 00:25:05.319 --> 00:25:06.920 the player he is and the things he can, do 519 00:25:07.920 --> 00:25:10.839 and it's just about continuing to do them over and over. 520 00:25:10.880 --> 00:25:11.160 Again. 521 00:25:12.119 --> 00:25:14.039 Again i'll bring out the fact that he's twenty, one 522 00:25:14.759 --> 00:25:17.720 just because it feels like you guys are asking him 523 00:25:17.839 --> 00:25:21.359 to just shoulder a big. Load and you, know, Tonight 524 00:25:21.400 --> 00:25:23.480 kurt is THE Nba draft, Lottery so we were doing 525 00:25:23.519 --> 00:25:26.559 SOME nba earlier And joannest wants out Of, milwaukee and you, 526 00:25:26.559 --> 00:25:31.279 know kind of a conversation about teams relying heavily on 527 00:25:31.279 --> 00:25:34.279 one individual talent and then it's the job of people 528 00:25:34.359 --> 00:25:38.960 like you whose decisions are intertwined into constructing the roster 529 00:25:39.039 --> 00:25:41.960 to make sure the talent is. Supported, Right, so do 530 00:25:42.000 --> 00:25:43.720 you feel like he has enough around him or do 531 00:25:43.720 --> 00:25:45.319 you feel like you guys are asking him to do a. 532 00:25:45.240 --> 00:25:50.000 Lot you, know asking him to do a Lot at the, 533 00:25:50.039 --> 00:25:53.359 MOMENT i think he's picking up some. Slack whether we're you, 534 00:25:53.359 --> 00:25:55.519 know explicitly saying, hey you got to do this or 535 00:25:55.559 --> 00:25:58.039 else or anything like, THAT i don't, know but he. 536 00:25:57.839 --> 00:25:59.559 Is he is picking up a lot of slack right, 537 00:25:59.559 --> 00:26:02.000 now which is great for us and it's great for 538 00:26:02.160 --> 00:26:05.920 him and his. DEVELOPMENT i think we can continue to 539 00:26:05.920 --> 00:26:08.000 build pieces around. HIM i think he's got some good 540 00:26:08.000 --> 00:26:10.480 pieces around, him you, know but. 541 00:26:10.359 --> 00:26:12.519 We can continue to add those pieces that. 542 00:26:12.400 --> 00:26:14.920 Can that can highlight him a little, bit that can. 543 00:26:14.839 --> 00:26:18.160 Push him and that can contribute to. Success. 544 00:26:18.240 --> 00:26:19.960 Yeah, absolutely all. 545 00:26:20.039 --> 00:26:23.880 Right so last year summer transfer, window you guys brought 546 00:26:23.920 --> 00:26:27.079 in a number of pieces AND i can remember talking 547 00:26:27.119 --> 00:26:31.240 to both you And pablo And JASON toni everybody about 548 00:26:31.480 --> 00:26:34.319 the decision to bring In, diogo who on your roster 549 00:26:34.440 --> 00:26:37.400 is the only designated, Player and there were moments last 550 00:26:37.440 --> 00:26:39.759 year where you could see the, quality but it felt 551 00:26:39.799 --> 00:26:44.480 like the walking line Was diego needs a preseason With 552 00:26:44.640 --> 00:26:47.200 pablo and with this staff so he can acclimate to 553 00:26:47.279 --> 00:26:49.359 what we're asking him to, do so he can acclimate 554 00:26:49.400 --> 00:26:52.599 to playing at, altitude so he can acclimate to playing 555 00:26:52.640 --> 00:26:56.480 In major league. Soccer at what, Point, kurt do we 556 00:26:56.720 --> 00:27:00.680 kind of look at this entire situation and, wonder you, 557 00:27:00.680 --> 00:27:02.200 know whether or not he is going to get this? 558 00:27:02.359 --> 00:27:05.240 Right and maybe there are Things i'm not. Seeing and, 559 00:27:05.279 --> 00:27:08.039 again there are moments, Right and that's WHY i don't 560 00:27:08.039 --> 00:27:11.400 want to BE i approach this job is more observation 561 00:27:11.640 --> 00:27:14.079 and not conclusion or dismiss ER. ANOI i, mean this 562 00:27:14.200 --> 00:27:17.839 is a, long long. Season it's a it's a season 563 00:27:17.880 --> 00:27:19.839 that is a, marathon as we talked about. Before but 564 00:27:19.880 --> 00:27:21.960 at what point do we kind of look at the 565 00:27:21.960 --> 00:27:25.119 thing and wonder or not if maybe the evaluation was? 566 00:27:25.160 --> 00:27:25.599 Off is that? 567 00:27:25.680 --> 00:27:25.880 Fair? 568 00:27:28.519 --> 00:27:31.440 Look players all adapt at different, rates And i'm not 569 00:27:31.480 --> 00:27:34.960 someone who thinks preseason is a magical period of time 570 00:27:35.000 --> 00:27:39.079 where where everyone can can discover their form and become 571 00:27:39.880 --> 00:27:41.839 the player that they, want that they that we want 572 00:27:41.839 --> 00:27:44.200 them to. BE i think it's really just about time 573 00:27:44.640 --> 00:27:47.200 with a, coach time with your, teammates and time in a. 574 00:27:47.319 --> 00:27:51.720 League and you, know more time equals more, adaptation which 575 00:27:51.880 --> 00:27:55.920 equals more comfort and confidence and should equal higher quality. 576 00:27:55.960 --> 00:27:59.079 Play and different players need different amounts of. Time some 577 00:27:59.119 --> 00:28:01.160 players can hit the ground, running you, know as In, 578 00:28:01.200 --> 00:28:05.279 seattle we Signed Nicolas ladero and he hit the ground 579 00:28:05.319 --> 00:28:08.160 running day one and and didn't need any time to 580 00:28:08.240 --> 00:28:10.799 adapt to his teammates or in the league and became 581 00:28:10.839 --> 00:28:13.359 an difference. Maker and you know there's some players that 582 00:28:13.480 --> 00:28:17.119 need six or twelve months to adapt and maybe their 583 00:28:17.160 --> 00:28:20.759 second year that's when they really blossom and. Bloom you. 584 00:28:20.799 --> 00:28:22.440 Know so you look At diodo AND i think he 585 00:28:22.799 --> 00:28:25.240 brings a lot of quality to the. Team he's working, 586 00:28:25.480 --> 00:28:30.000 DEFENSIVELY i, KNOW i know within What pablo's asking and 587 00:28:30.000 --> 00:28:32.960 and he's adds a lot of quality on the ball 588 00:28:33.000 --> 00:28:35.759 and the build up when he's on the, ball his 589 00:28:35.880 --> 00:28:39.920 decisions are generally, better his technical ability is. Good he's 590 00:28:39.960 --> 00:28:42.119 getting himself in really good. SPOTS i was actually talking 591 00:28:42.119 --> 00:28:44.400 to someone about this, today you, know in terms of 592 00:28:44.400 --> 00:28:48.039 some of his statistics underlying, numbers and you, know he's 593 00:28:48.079 --> 00:28:52.960 getting into into spots where he's creating, chances you, know 594 00:28:53.079 --> 00:28:56.119 with expected assist or he's he's you, know getting chances 595 00:28:56.119 --> 00:28:59.000 of himself with expected goals and and right now he's 596 00:28:59.039 --> 00:29:03.799 underperforming those, numbers you, know and that's that's an objective 597 00:29:04.440 --> 00:29:07.559 analysis at this, point right those those two specific numbers, 598 00:29:07.640 --> 00:29:11.279 especially he's he's underperforming them. Now AND i think the 599 00:29:11.319 --> 00:29:14.039 expectation that he would have for himself and that we 600 00:29:14.079 --> 00:29:16.759 have for him is that he at least you, know 601 00:29:17.359 --> 00:29:18.680 that's you, know gets that part. 602 00:29:18.880 --> 00:29:22.279 Right and scores and assists what what can. 603 00:29:22.119 --> 00:29:25.039 Be expected based on on the quality chances he's getting 604 00:29:25.039 --> 00:29:27.640 and setting up for, others and those expected assess is 605 00:29:27.720 --> 00:29:29.599 kind of a weird one because you, know he plays 606 00:29:29.599 --> 00:29:31.279 a great. BALL i think HE'S i think he's gonna 607 00:29:31.279 --> 00:29:34.279 play the ball Into willie will he doesn't, Shoot, okay there's. 608 00:29:34.079 --> 00:29:35.920 No expected assist. There so it's a little tough one, 609 00:29:35.920 --> 00:29:38.599 too because you can't do both ends of, it you. 610 00:29:38.640 --> 00:29:42.160 KNOW i think there are some moments where he'll demand 611 00:29:42.200 --> 00:29:44.559 more of himself and will demand more of, Him and you, 612 00:29:44.599 --> 00:29:47.599 know we're always evaluating everyone and they're fit within the 613 00:29:47.599 --> 00:29:50.200 team and how they're helping us and and that type 614 00:29:50.240 --> 00:29:52.240 of pressure is no different to him or anyone else 615 00:29:52.279 --> 00:29:54.079 on that on that. Team but, YEAH i think the 616 00:29:54.079 --> 00:29:57.079 expectation is that he he meets those expectations from the 617 00:29:57.079 --> 00:30:00.200 standpoint of of those you, know expectables expected to AND 618 00:30:00.240 --> 00:30:03.119 i think he's he's adding the defensive work rate That 619 00:30:03.200 --> 00:30:06.279 pabo's looking. For if he's, not you, Know pabo's holding 620 00:30:06.319 --> 00:30:08.880 him accountable to. That and so that's that part's been really. 621 00:30:08.920 --> 00:30:13.119 Positive he's been bought. In he just needs to execute 622 00:30:13.119 --> 00:30:13.640 in those final. 623 00:30:13.640 --> 00:30:18.200 Moments good breakdown, there same question About dom About Don Mark. Zuke, 624 00:30:18.319 --> 00:30:21.720 NOW i understand That dom has some personal challenges right, 625 00:30:21.759 --> 00:30:24.079 now AND i always try to be. Fair these are 626 00:30:24.160 --> 00:30:26.640 humans that have families and they have issues like everybody. 627 00:30:26.640 --> 00:30:29.400 Else SO i don't know if you can provide any 628 00:30:29.400 --> 00:30:32.160 color and context to. That if if, so feel. Free 629 00:30:32.599 --> 00:30:34.240 BUT i kind of feel the same way About dom 630 00:30:34.279 --> 00:30:36.400 THAT i feel About, diogo where there are times where 631 00:30:36.440 --> 00:30:39.680 he'll play in across or he'll you, know he'll he'll 632 00:30:39.720 --> 00:30:42.519 score a goal or a provide service and you're, like, wow, 633 00:30:42.559 --> 00:30:45.440 man HE i can see in him what you guys 634 00:30:45.480 --> 00:30:48.359 saw in him to bring him. Over but it's kind 635 00:30:48.400 --> 00:30:49.880 of the same Thing, kurt isn't. It we just need 636 00:30:49.920 --> 00:30:52.720 a little more. Consistency so what's the analysis on the 637 00:30:52.759 --> 00:30:54.400 performance of Don Mark sukes so? 638 00:30:54.480 --> 00:30:59.039 Far, YEAH i MEAN i think you you you actually 639 00:30:59.079 --> 00:31:00.880 gave a very good anount else to spend. 640 00:31:01.079 --> 00:31:03.319 Great soccer guy over. 641 00:31:03.359 --> 00:31:05.799 Here he gets in good. 642 00:31:05.799 --> 00:31:09.519 Spots the qualities his decision making in the final third 643 00:31:09.599 --> 00:31:13.480 going forward IS i think very, Good but the consistency 644 00:31:13.519 --> 00:31:16.480 of his his execution on that decision making is not always. 645 00:31:16.519 --> 00:31:19.079 THERE i think you can see the types of balls 646 00:31:19.079 --> 00:31:20.720 that he. PLAYS i think no one else on the 647 00:31:20.759 --> 00:31:21.519 team can actually. 648 00:31:21.920 --> 00:31:23.319 Hit you, know the. 649 00:31:23.279 --> 00:31:27.559 Ball he played into Pay suits for the goal that 650 00:31:27.559 --> 00:31:30.799 got called back In. Nashville that was a phenomenal, pass, 651 00:31:30.880 --> 00:31:32.799 Right and he's done that multiple times for us in 652 00:31:32.839 --> 00:31:35.039 games and. Training we see that all the, time and 653 00:31:35.599 --> 00:31:37.319 that that quality and that decision making is. 654 00:31:37.319 --> 00:31:38.880 There the, consistency like we. 655 00:31:38.799 --> 00:31:41.200 Said For diegol, right, like that's the piece that the 656 00:31:41.359 --> 00:31:43.119 needs to be added to the. Game and so we 657 00:31:43.200 --> 00:31:45.160 need to get. Him he needs to find a way 658 00:31:45.200 --> 00:31:49.599 to get himself into those high leverage spots more often 659 00:31:49.960 --> 00:31:53.039 so that we can utilize the quality of decision, making you, 660 00:31:53.039 --> 00:31:55.319 know but you look at it right, now and competition 661 00:31:55.640 --> 00:31:57.960 is good when we want, competition, right and So gozos 662 00:31:57.960 --> 00:32:00.680 come in and give us some really really good shifts 663 00:32:00.680 --> 00:32:04.359 and so you, know credit to him for taking his. 664 00:32:04.440 --> 00:32:08.000 Opportunity AND i think while you're while you're doing, well 665 00:32:08.079 --> 00:32:10.480 you're you, know no one's gonna gonna sit you, down, 666 00:32:10.599 --> 00:32:13.279 Right so now it's About dom saying to him the, hell, 667 00:32:13.319 --> 00:32:15.839 Hey i'm you, KNOW i want to get back out 668 00:32:15.880 --> 00:32:18.480 there Right and we've seen that with with other players In. 669 00:32:18.480 --> 00:32:20.599 Alaska train has had to deal with something similar this 670 00:32:20.680 --> 00:32:23.799 year as. Well so competition is good and we're looking 671 00:32:23.839 --> 00:32:24.279 to push those. 672 00:32:24.279 --> 00:32:24.920 Guys but you, Know. 673 00:32:24.880 --> 00:32:27.359 Dom's a guy that has a lot of quality obviously 674 00:32:27.400 --> 00:32:30.519 as recently AS i think the last international window was 675 00:32:30.559 --> 00:32:32.440 in was in the full national team With. 676 00:32:32.440 --> 00:32:34.440 Poland so you, KNOW i think. 677 00:32:34.440 --> 00:32:38.400 There's there's there's a lot of potential and quality there 678 00:32:38.880 --> 00:32:40.640 and we're just helping them get get it. 679 00:32:40.680 --> 00:32:44.440 Out, So, kurt you LEAD mls in red. Cards my guy. 680 00:32:46.680 --> 00:32:47.480 Getting started on this. 681 00:32:47.559 --> 00:32:51.559 One, WELL i, mean look LIKE i watch all the 682 00:32:51.559 --> 00:32:55.279 games AND i think there have been some well one 683 00:32:55.440 --> 00:32:57.720 one red card was actually rescinded because it was so. 684 00:32:57.799 --> 00:33:00.559 Pathetic but there are a couple of. Others the one 685 00:33:00.599 --> 00:33:06.440 THAT i think it Was pole Against dallas here was beyond. 686 00:33:06.519 --> 00:33:10.480 Dumb so what what what's there to say about just 687 00:33:10.559 --> 00:33:14.079 simply that. DYNAMIC i, mean on, paper if people aren't 688 00:33:14.160 --> 00:33:16.440 watching and they see that you lead mls and red, 689 00:33:16.480 --> 00:33:19.039 cards it's, like, well are they? Undisciplined but if you're, 690 00:33:19.079 --> 00:33:21.880 watching you've also been hard. Done so WHEN i say to, 691 00:33:21.880 --> 00:33:24.400 You Kurt, schmidt your team leads mls and red, cards 692 00:33:24.440 --> 00:33:24.799 what is your? 693 00:33:24.799 --> 00:33:29.440 Response, YEAH i mean we've got four red. CARDS i 694 00:33:29.559 --> 00:33:34.440 THINK i think you know one of them is you, 695 00:33:34.480 --> 00:33:37.240 know we obviously didn't appeal and. It you, know we 696 00:33:37.279 --> 00:33:38.920 can see why that's a red. CARD i don't think 697 00:33:38.920 --> 00:33:40.640 it was. MALICIOUS i think it was a little while 698 00:33:40.640 --> 00:33:43.319 it was awkward and poorly, timed but went into it 699 00:33:43.359 --> 00:33:47.000 recklessly and, okay no. Problem you know. 700 00:33:46.960 --> 00:33:47.440 Another one that. 701 00:33:47.559 --> 00:33:52.279 Rescinded the third was a second yellow for time, wasting 702 00:33:52.319 --> 00:33:54.799 And i'm nearly positive the referee forgot that he had 703 00:33:54.839 --> 00:33:58.200 just given body. Yellow and then this, one which you, 704 00:33:58.240 --> 00:34:01.240 Know I'm i'm doing a lot of research on this 705 00:34:01.279 --> 00:34:05.039 one to to throw some data at the at the 706 00:34:05.160 --> 00:34:07.839 league about you, know, what what's going on in this, 707 00:34:07.920 --> 00:34:12.800 situation BECAUSE i think you see this type of moment 708 00:34:12.960 --> 00:34:15.960 happen multiple times a game and certainly moult times a 709 00:34:16.000 --> 00:34:20.280 weekend across the league with with no action. Taken AND 710 00:34:20.320 --> 00:34:22.360 i understand, that you, know it's a higher leverage moment 711 00:34:22.480 --> 00:34:25.280 and you're looking for a, penalty and that maybe makes 712 00:34:25.480 --> 00:34:29.159 the referee think it's worthy of of a yellow. Card 713 00:34:29.199 --> 00:34:31.920 but you, know as you look at the replay multiple, 714 00:34:32.000 --> 00:34:35.679 times it's really hard for me to say that he, 715 00:34:36.000 --> 00:34:38.199 definitely without a, shadow that was not. 716 00:34:38.320 --> 00:34:39.840 Touched AND i think. 717 00:34:39.679 --> 00:34:42.960 It's REALLY i was gonna say, harsh but maybe that's 718 00:34:43.000 --> 00:34:45.039 not even a strong enough, word like it's kind of 719 00:34:45.079 --> 00:34:50.320 insane to make a game changing, decision you, know based on, 720 00:34:50.360 --> 00:34:52.760 that in my, opinion like a second yellow for a 721 00:34:52.800 --> 00:34:56.400 dive where the, video you, know slow motion replay doesn't 722 00:34:56.440 --> 00:34:59.599 even clearly indicate that the guy wasn't, touched and you, 723 00:34:59.639 --> 00:35:01.480 KNOW I i think he was. Touched he thinks he has, 724 00:35:01.599 --> 00:35:03.880 touched and you, know maybe he could have stayed up 725 00:35:03.920 --> 00:35:07.079 or should have stayed. Up but sometimes, referees you, know 726 00:35:07.239 --> 00:35:09.000 don't give you a foul if you get fouled and 727 00:35:09.079 --> 00:35:11.599 you stay, up and so you've got you, know you've 728 00:35:11.599 --> 00:35:14.280 got players in these two minds of, well you, know 729 00:35:14.280 --> 00:35:15.800 IF i stay, up MAYBE i get a shot off 730 00:35:15.880 --> 00:35:17.639 then BUT i don't get the foul and it could 731 00:35:17.639 --> 00:35:19.360 be a, penalty and MAYBE i missed the, shot and 732 00:35:19.400 --> 00:35:21.320 like you, know he's doing all this calculation in his 733 00:35:21.360 --> 00:35:23.239 head at light speed right in the in the moment 734 00:35:23.320 --> 00:35:25.559 and has to make a split second. Decision so it's 735 00:35:25.559 --> 00:35:30.679 Really i'm really disappointed IN i think some of the 736 00:35:30.719 --> 00:35:32.760 refereeing decisions that have gone our. Away and you know 737 00:35:32.800 --> 00:35:36.400 that doesn't even take into account the red card that 738 00:35:37.880 --> 00:35:42.119 sort of been given Against. Love it's uh in In. 739 00:35:42.199 --> 00:35:46.639 NASHVILLE i think, that you, know even apart From willie's second, 740 00:35:46.679 --> 00:35:50.599 YELLOW i think there were SOME i think the yellow 741 00:35:50.599 --> 00:35:55.400 card distribution in this game was wasn't quite. Equitable so, 742 00:35:56.239 --> 00:35:59.280 YEAH i don't tell. YOU i think there's an element 743 00:35:59.320 --> 00:36:02.880 of discipline to THE i don't think that number FOR. 744 00:36:02.880 --> 00:36:05.440 Us shows a, gross. 745 00:36:05.280 --> 00:36:09.880 You, know indiscipline. EPIDEMIC i THINK i think the two 746 00:36:11.320 --> 00:36:13.400 you know again, AGAIN i think the last three that we've, 747 00:36:13.440 --> 00:36:15.400 gotten you, know one was obviously. 748 00:36:15.000 --> 00:36:16.440 Rescinded in the two second. 749 00:36:16.480 --> 00:36:20.599 YELLOWS i think we're, incredibly incredibly. Harsh and so while 750 00:36:20.639 --> 00:36:23.400 we can always AND i hope AND i want the 751 00:36:23.400 --> 00:36:25.719 team and the players that is to look within and think, 752 00:36:25.760 --> 00:36:28.360 well what COULD i have done to have prevented this 753 00:36:28.360 --> 00:36:30.320 this situation from happening to? It SO i think there 754 00:36:30.320 --> 00:36:32.199 are things that we can do to affect, it and 755 00:36:32.239 --> 00:36:34.360 we should take that. RESPONSIBILITY i know those players, do 756 00:36:34.920 --> 00:36:37.400 but you, know me looking at it from my, SEAT 757 00:36:37.800 --> 00:36:41.920 i think gets incredibly harsh by the officials in all 758 00:36:41.960 --> 00:36:45.639 those situations and couldn't have been given as. 759 00:36:45.719 --> 00:36:50.360 Is so of Course willie will Miss wednesday's tilt against Poor. 760 00:36:50.480 --> 00:36:54.519 Land Johnny russell available for selection Against. Dallas so let's 761 00:36:54.559 --> 00:36:57.719 move into the space of the two new, acquisitions what 762 00:36:57.760 --> 00:37:00.920 you've seen in training and, again unfortunately we will not 763 00:37:00.960 --> 00:37:05.000 See willy On, wednesday but is there a chance we'll See. Johnny, 764 00:37:06.000 --> 00:37:06.599 yeah he's on the. 765 00:37:06.599 --> 00:37:08.480 Bench there's a, chance AND i think if publicly is 766 00:37:08.480 --> 00:37:11.000 the right moment to get him in there and to 767 00:37:11.039 --> 00:37:13.199 add some quality and make a difference in the, game 768 00:37:13.280 --> 00:37:16.360 he'll do. That you, KNOW i know, obviously you know 769 00:37:16.440 --> 00:37:20.440 down a man in that situation In dallas probably wasn't 770 00:37:20.440 --> 00:37:22.920 the right moment to digue him into. That so we'll 771 00:37:22.960 --> 00:37:26.199 see if the moment presents itself On. Wednesday BUT i, 772 00:37:26.239 --> 00:37:29.159 think you, Know johnny brings obviously a lot of experience 773 00:37:29.760 --> 00:37:32.119 to the, group experience not just in the games but 774 00:37:32.159 --> 00:37:35.719 also in, training which you know will take time obviously 775 00:37:35.760 --> 00:37:38.760 to see within the group in the, games but helps 776 00:37:38.800 --> 00:37:41.039 us a ton as. Well and you, know he obviously 777 00:37:41.119 --> 00:37:43.360 also makes a lot of good decisions and has a 778 00:37:43.360 --> 00:37:45.559 lot of quality on the ball in those right, moments 779 00:37:45.559 --> 00:37:49.199 and so if we see time to use those, qualities we. 780 00:37:49.239 --> 00:37:52.239 Will all, right last, thing give me a little glimpse 781 00:37:52.239 --> 00:37:56.440 into Who portland. Is they're having a good. Year they're 782 00:37:56.480 --> 00:37:59.199 third in The west or six three and three twenty 783 00:37:59.199 --> 00:38:01.840 two goals, score so they've got something cooking up. There 784 00:38:01.880 --> 00:38:04.440 as your opponent on On. Wednesday tell me about, them 785 00:38:04.440 --> 00:38:05.159 curve forre set you. 786 00:38:05.239 --> 00:38:10.960 Loose they are a very, attacking you, know oriented. Team 787 00:38:11.000 --> 00:38:14.760 they obviously last season and returned all these, guys but 788 00:38:14.800 --> 00:38:18.119 they they scored a lot of. Goals you know. THAT 789 00:38:18.360 --> 00:38:20.599 i think it was three guys and or three four 790 00:38:20.599 --> 00:38:24.039 guys in double, digits which was or was above a certain, 791 00:38:24.079 --> 00:38:26.559 number and that was the record or first time that 792 00:38:26.639 --> 00:38:28.880 happened in The, League SO i think there's still that 793 00:38:28.920 --> 00:38:31.280 team they want to. Be they want to play, quick 794 00:38:31.320 --> 00:38:33.880 they want to get, forward they want they've always been 795 00:38:33.880 --> 00:38:37.400 a bit of a transition, team you, know and willing 796 00:38:37.440 --> 00:38:40.239 to get out on the. Break so that's what we 797 00:38:40.320 --> 00:38:42.119 might see a little bit. OF i think they are 798 00:38:42.119 --> 00:38:43.280 going to put. Forward they do have a lot of 799 00:38:43.360 --> 00:38:46.119 quality in the. Attack you, know you didn't you mention 800 00:38:46.199 --> 00:38:48.000 how many goals they, scored but not how many goals they've. 801 00:38:48.039 --> 00:38:53.199 CONCEDED i think they've also been a little bit stucceptible 802 00:38:53.239 --> 00:38:55.840 in the back of. Times that's hopefully something we can 803 00:38:55.840 --> 00:38:58.239 take advantage. Of they've given up you, know, nineteen they 804 00:38:58.280 --> 00:39:01.920 score twenty, two they've given up nine, team so it's 805 00:39:01.920 --> 00:39:04.159 something that we will try and take advantage of them 806 00:39:04.199 --> 00:39:05.280 on that side of the wall as. 807 00:39:05.320 --> 00:39:08.079 Well All, right, buddy good stuff, Today appreciate the time 808 00:39:08.199 --> 00:39:11.400 and best of luck On. Wednesday moving. Forward, okay all, 809 00:39:11.480 --> 00:39:11.960 right sounds? 810 00:39:11.960 --> 00:39:12.360 Good all. 811 00:39:12.440 --> 00:39:15.519 Right Kurch, schmitt technical director For Real Salt, lake stops 812 00:39:15.519 --> 00:39:19.079 by today courtesy of our friends AT Ifa Country. Stores 813 00:39:19.119 --> 00:39:21.079 any drive to the basket begins with the first, step 814 00:39:21.119 --> 00:39:23.440 but on the, court that's the ultimate power. 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Program, Tom HAPPY Nba Draft Lottery? 826 00:39:59.400 --> 00:39:59.920 Monday how we? 827 00:40:00.039 --> 00:40:01.880 You And? Bud Happy Flag? 828 00:40:01.960 --> 00:40:07.199 Day so sorry say that? Again happy Way Flag? Day Flag? 829 00:40:07.280 --> 00:40:07.519 Day? 830 00:40:07.639 --> 00:40:10.920 Okay. Yes in addition to, that, yes capture the flag 831 00:40:10.960 --> 00:40:13.440 and that's what we're all hoping we can do here 832 00:40:13.440 --> 00:40:15.480 In Salt Lake. City, Tom so let's not bury the. 833 00:40:15.519 --> 00:40:18.280 Lead if The jazz get won, tonight what does that 834 00:40:18.440 --> 00:40:20.880 mean both in the interim and then for the future 835 00:40:20.880 --> 00:40:21.079 of this. 836 00:40:21.199 --> 00:40:27.559 Organization, well it'd be the biggest moment in jazz franchise 837 00:40:27.639 --> 00:40:30.199 history since making THE Nba. Finals you get a guy 838 00:40:30.360 --> 00:40:35.199 like that on your, team that's a building block that 839 00:40:35.559 --> 00:40:39.599 twenty nine other teams would just about trade any of 840 00:40:39.639 --> 00:40:41.800 their players. FOR i, mean there's a short list of 841 00:40:41.840 --> 00:40:46.800 maybe five players that A gm would not trade their 842 00:40:46.880 --> 00:40:50.039 guy for the chance to Have Cooper flag on their 843 00:40:50.079 --> 00:40:54.760 team under a rookie scale contract over the next seven 844 00:40:54.880 --> 00:40:59.039 or so. Years it's not just about the, talent it's 845 00:40:59.039 --> 00:41:02.119 about the, leadership and it's about the contract that you 846 00:41:02.239 --> 00:41:06.639 get this. Guy in the NEW, cba it's becoming really 847 00:41:06.760 --> 00:41:10.000 hard to build super. Teams but if you get a 848 00:41:10.000 --> 00:41:12.519 guy Like, wemby and if you get a guy Like Cooper, 849 00:41:12.559 --> 00:41:18.719 flag there's a window in which their contract is super 850 00:41:18.920 --> 00:41:21.880 super at a. Discount you basically get him at thirty 851 00:41:21.880 --> 00:41:24.920 cents on the. Dollar and so For, flag who's eighteen 852 00:41:25.000 --> 00:41:28.559 years old or nineteen years, old next season is going 853 00:41:28.599 --> 00:41:32.840 to look like a lot older than his age. Suggests 854 00:41:33.000 --> 00:41:36.639 AND i think The Utah jazz and whoever whichever team 855 00:41:36.840 --> 00:41:40.440 Lands Cooper flag WOULD i think in year two or 856 00:41:40.480 --> 00:41:44.239 three be a playoff. Team and by the end of 857 00:41:44.280 --> 00:41:47.400 that four year, contract if he's, healthy the rookie scale 858 00:41:47.440 --> 00:41:50.320 contract at the end of, IT i think you have 859 00:41:50.360 --> 00:41:53.280 a real chance of being a title. Contender if you 860 00:41:53.320 --> 00:41:55.920 make the right moves around. Him victor Webber, niama of, 861 00:41:55.920 --> 00:42:01.480 course is entering his third year in THE, nba AND 862 00:42:01.559 --> 00:42:03.440 i think you can say that he is the best 863 00:42:03.440 --> 00:42:05.199 prospect Since, lebron if not better. 864 00:42:05.280 --> 00:42:07.599 Prospect But Cooper flag isn't too far. 865 00:42:07.679 --> 00:42:12.199 Behind and The Utah jazz have a really strong leadership 866 00:42:12.239 --> 00:42:18.920 in place OWNER gm coach that obviously we saw last, 867 00:42:18.960 --> 00:42:23.239 Week Will hardy was extended for the foreseeable. Future AND 868 00:42:23.440 --> 00:42:26.519 i think when you Have Lowry markinhaim And Walker kessler 869 00:42:26.599 --> 00:42:28.639 And Cooper flag on the same, team you're not that 870 00:42:28.760 --> 00:42:31.840 far away from a playoff. Team AND i think it 871 00:42:31.880 --> 00:42:34.800 would be a, huge a huge turn of events for 872 00:42:34.800 --> 00:42:38.159 A Utah jazz team that has been really you, know 873 00:42:38.199 --> 00:42:41.039 struggling over the last couple of years to put a 874 00:42:41.079 --> 00:42:43.519 really competitive product out on the. Floor but the fan 875 00:42:43.559 --> 00:42:46.599 base is hungry for. It they've supported the team and 876 00:42:46.719 --> 00:42:48.320 it would be a great story for THE nba if 877 00:42:48.320 --> 00:42:49.159 The jazz Got Cooper. 878 00:42:49.199 --> 00:42:52.079 Flag all, Right so here's my follow up, Today, tom 879 00:42:52.119 --> 00:42:54.119 Because i've talked to you, Know i've got a lot 880 00:42:54.119 --> 00:42:55.920 of buddies out here that love The, jazz a lot 881 00:42:55.960 --> 00:42:59.679 of jazz fans in our market that miss spring basketball 882 00:43:00.239 --> 00:43:04.159 and miss Competitive jazz basketball and what we're hearing around. 883 00:43:04.239 --> 00:43:07.199 Here and, look this is not like breaking, news but 884 00:43:07.360 --> 00:43:09.280 The jazz are going to do everything they can to 885 00:43:09.320 --> 00:43:12.519 try to get to one even if they. Fall and 886 00:43:12.519 --> 00:43:15.320 that's a very easy thing to say out, Loud but 887 00:43:15.400 --> 00:43:18.960 to your, point when you have a generational option Like cooper, 888 00:43:19.000 --> 00:43:23.679 flag like let's Say charlotte gets number, one Or washington or, 889 00:43:23.719 --> 00:43:28.039 whoever or The, pelicans do you think there's any chance 890 00:43:28.280 --> 00:43:30.840 that if The jazz don't get one, there and let's 891 00:43:30.840 --> 00:43:32.760 say The jazz fall the two or three or, whatever 892 00:43:33.320 --> 00:43:36.159 is there a chance that ANOTHER gm would be willing 893 00:43:36.199 --> 00:43:38.719 to listen to offers for one from The jazz if 894 00:43:38.760 --> 00:43:39.760 The jazz don't land one. 895 00:43:39.760 --> 00:43:43.880 Themselves, YEAH i think there is a chance that ANOTHER 896 00:43:43.960 --> 00:43:47.119 gm would be open to offers at number. One but 897 00:43:47.239 --> 00:43:50.519 the problem is that the drop off from one to 898 00:43:50.599 --> 00:43:53.880 two to three is so steep that unless you have 899 00:43:53.920 --> 00:43:56.000 the number two pick to, OFFER i just don't see 900 00:43:56.000 --> 00:44:01.360 another team even considering trading out Of Cooper flah because 901 00:44:01.440 --> 00:44:03.760 there is no clear number three prospect in this, draft 902 00:44:03.760 --> 00:44:07.079 And Dylan harper is as good as a candidate for 903 00:44:07.159 --> 00:44:09.760 number two as anybody in this in this draft. 904 00:44:09.760 --> 00:44:11.360 CLASS i just think. 905 00:44:11.199 --> 00:44:14.239 That if there was a two. 906 00:44:13.519 --> 00:44:15.039 Person or a tea a two. 907 00:44:17.840 --> 00:44:21.400 Two person draft where it was like It's Cooper flag And, 908 00:44:21.440 --> 00:44:25.320 wemby like either way you're gonna get a generational, player 909 00:44:26.000 --> 00:44:28.119 then you would see a team that would open be 910 00:44:28.199 --> 00:44:30.360 open to direct trading out at number, one but not 911 00:44:30.559 --> 00:44:31.719 in this. One it would have. 912 00:44:31.639 --> 00:44:33.320 To be a crazy. 913 00:44:33.480 --> 00:44:38.079 Offer of those teams that have a legit shot at 914 00:44:38.079 --> 00:44:43.000 being number, two you're Talking, Charlotte you're talking The Washington. 915 00:44:43.039 --> 00:44:44.960 WIZARDS i just don't. 916 00:44:44.719 --> 00:44:47.719 Think that they would have enough of a reason to 917 00:44:47.760 --> 00:44:50.679 move off Of Cooper, flag especially because you don't want 918 00:44:50.679 --> 00:44:53.719 to be THE gm that Trades Cooper. Flag you, know 919 00:44:53.880 --> 00:44:57.199 we we remember The Chris weber draft at number, one 920 00:44:57.559 --> 00:45:03.000 The Anthony Bennett bennett Draft Andrew. Wiggins we've Seen Andrew 921 00:45:03.000 --> 00:45:05.840 wiggins be traded on that draft pick on that draft 922 00:45:05.960 --> 00:45:10.199 night or essentially before the season For Kevin, love and 923 00:45:10.599 --> 00:45:12.840 The cavs made a good trade to trade out Of 924 00:45:13.039 --> 00:45:16.960 Andrew wiggins to Get Kevin love and Support Lebron. JAMES 925 00:45:17.880 --> 00:45:20.559 i just think if you trade out a number one 926 00:45:20.800 --> 00:45:23.760 With Cooper, flag you got to trade him out for 927 00:45:23.880 --> 00:45:28.360 an All star caliber, player and Right, now The jazz 928 00:45:28.719 --> 00:45:32.800 could convince maybe the incoming team That Lowry marketen is 929 00:45:32.800 --> 00:45:35.719 an All star caliber, Player BUT i just don't think 930 00:45:35.760 --> 00:45:38.400 that they would have ENOUGH ammo for one of those 931 00:45:38.440 --> 00:45:41.360 rebuilding teams to be. CONVINCED i, MEAN i guess you 932 00:45:41.360 --> 00:45:45.840 could put in draft Picks Walker kessler And Lowry markinen 933 00:45:45.920 --> 00:45:48.360 to move up into number, one but that seems like 934 00:45:48.400 --> 00:45:53.800 a very steep, price and, honestly it would take something 935 00:45:53.920 --> 00:45:57.559 like that in order for another team to seriously consider. 936 00:45:57.599 --> 00:45:58.760 It Because Cooper. 937 00:45:58.440 --> 00:46:01.840 Flag again at the, Top he's not just checking off 938 00:46:01.880 --> 00:46:04.760 all the boxes from a talent and leadership, standpoint it's 939 00:46:04.800 --> 00:46:06.920 that you get him under control for the next you, 940 00:46:06.920 --> 00:46:10.719 know seven eight. Years, uh and that's that's that's. Huge 941 00:46:11.599 --> 00:46:14.440 SO i JUST i DON'T i don't see it happening 942 00:46:14.599 --> 00:46:18.400 a team trading out At Cooper. Flag barring some crazy 943 00:46:18.480 --> 00:46:20.639 it's some crazy. TRADE i just don't Think utah has 944 00:46:20.679 --> 00:46:21.000 it up their. 945 00:46:21.039 --> 00:46:21.280 Sleeve. 946 00:46:21.559 --> 00:46:24.599 YEAH i don't think so. EITHER i THINK i Think 947 00:46:24.639 --> 00:46:28.920 i've landed in the same spot you. Are but you, 948 00:46:28.920 --> 00:46:31.360 KNOW I i do feel, like based off of What 949 00:46:31.400 --> 00:46:33.079 i've been, told they're going to be as aggressive as 950 00:46:33.119 --> 00:46:35.599 they possibly can to get up to number. One but 951 00:46:35.800 --> 00:46:39.039 let's say they're they're unable to get to one and 952 00:46:39.079 --> 00:46:41.400 they do land it. Too so WHILE i do agree 953 00:46:41.440 --> 00:46:43.880 with you that there is a gap Between Cooper flag 954 00:46:43.880 --> 00:46:46.679 And Dylan, harper the MORE i Watch Dylan, harper the 955 00:46:46.719 --> 00:46:48.199 MORE i like. Him there's a little kid to, him 956 00:46:48.239 --> 00:46:50.159 right like there's a little Kid cunningham to. HIM i 957 00:46:50.199 --> 00:46:53.119 don't love the comp. Thing so let's just for our 958 00:46:53.159 --> 00:46:56.559 listeners out this way tremendously curious about what The jazz could, 959 00:46:56.639 --> 00:46:58.519 do and we'll come away with if it is too 960 00:46:58.719 --> 00:47:00.559 and they land On Dylan harper or what sort of 961 00:47:00.559 --> 00:47:01.280 player do you think he? 962 00:47:01.400 --> 00:47:06.559 Is, yeah He's he's one of these big, guards point, 963 00:47:06.559 --> 00:47:12.480 guards combo. Guy he's, young he's. Nineteen he's got you, 964 00:47:12.480 --> 00:47:15.360 know alpha mentality written all over. Him and the THING 965 00:47:15.400 --> 00:47:19.119 i love best About Dylan, harper who is much more 966 00:47:19.119 --> 00:47:21.679 efficient than his co Star Ace, bailey WHO i think 967 00:47:21.800 --> 00:47:24.679 is a, Project Dylan harper is more of a ready made. 968 00:47:24.760 --> 00:47:30.199 Prospect he's, big he's at six six to. Twenty the 969 00:47:30.239 --> 00:47:31.960 THING i love him about about the most is his 970 00:47:32.039 --> 00:47:35.480 second gen. Guy he's a legacy. Player Ron harper's, son 971 00:47:35.840 --> 00:47:38.159 and what we've seen historically in the draft that if 972 00:47:38.199 --> 00:47:40.360 you get guys who are the sons of AN nba, 973 00:47:40.480 --> 00:47:46.440 player they vastly outperformed their draft, slot, vastly even at number. 974 00:47:46.480 --> 00:47:50.599 Two we've seen guys come into the league that a 975 00:47:50.599 --> 00:47:53.400 son of AN nba player that for whatever, reason whether it's, 976 00:47:53.400 --> 00:47:58.800 genetic whether it's you, KNOW iq like just INSTITUTIONAL, iq 977 00:47:59.000 --> 00:48:02.280 your EMOTIONAL, intelli just being part of a household that 978 00:48:02.320 --> 00:48:04.880 had already seen the riggers of THE. Nba you're already 979 00:48:04.920 --> 00:48:07.880 knowing the riggers of THE. Nba there's just been a 980 00:48:08.079 --> 00:48:12.920 huge history of second gen players being much better than 981 00:48:12.960 --> 00:48:17.440 we expected in THE. Nba And Dylan, harper although the 982 00:48:17.519 --> 00:48:20.679 team wasn't a winning team last, season The rutgers didn't 983 00:48:20.679 --> 00:48:22.719 even make THE ncaa tournament despite having two of the 984 00:48:22.760 --> 00:48:26.000 top three prospects in the league consensus top three prospects 985 00:48:26.039 --> 00:48:28.920 in the in the draft, Class Dylan harper is a 986 00:48:28.960 --> 00:48:32.880 much better, player a really good offensive player and a 987 00:48:32.920 --> 00:48:35.239 solid defensive. Player you're not going to build around them. 988 00:48:35.239 --> 00:48:40.599 Defensively But Dylan harper being a section, section a second generation, 989 00:48:40.840 --> 00:48:47.360 player a guy who's i think a, younger more. Established 990 00:48:47.360 --> 00:48:49.199 he's been a top guy for a couple of years. 991 00:48:49.199 --> 00:48:52.920 NOW i think The The Utah jazz would be very 992 00:48:52.960 --> 00:48:56.840 happy With Dylan harper at number, two especially BECAUSE i 993 00:48:56.880 --> 00:49:00.800 think they've been struggling to find their their ballhanded the 994 00:49:00.920 --> 00:49:03.199 lead guard over the last couple of. Years can't Say 995 00:49:03.199 --> 00:49:07.480 George Isaiah collier have been solid at their best, points 996 00:49:07.599 --> 00:49:09.760 especially with the Way collier played at the second half 997 00:49:09.800 --> 00:49:12.719 of last. Season but he's not taking the place of 998 00:49:12.760 --> 00:49:16.440 A Dylan harper And Kate cunningham. IS i think because 999 00:49:16.480 --> 00:49:19.400 of his size and the ability to be the lead. 1000 00:49:19.440 --> 00:49:22.000 GUARD i think a lot of people look At Dylan 1001 00:49:22.039 --> 00:49:26.079 harper as A Kate cunningham. PROXY i think that's a 1002 00:49:26.079 --> 00:49:28.480 little too, aggressive like you, said BUT i think he's 1003 00:49:28.519 --> 00:49:30.559 a really good player that can be An All star one. 1004 00:49:30.639 --> 00:49:33.239 Day all, Right so let's just kind of keep doing this. 1005 00:49:33.320 --> 00:49:36.920 Exercise and then obviously we need to talk about the 1006 00:49:36.960 --> 00:49:39.760 fact That yatis might be open to being traded and 1007 00:49:39.760 --> 00:49:41.280 what that could look like and what that, means and, 1008 00:49:41.320 --> 00:49:43.119 oh by the, way the playoffs are going, on so 1009 00:49:43.119 --> 00:49:47.719 we'll get to that as. Well but, ultimately if it is, three, 1010 00:49:47.840 --> 00:49:51.719 okay So cooper's one seems like it's a consensus That 1011 00:49:51.800 --> 00:49:54.199 dylan would be, two and then at, three it does get. 1012 00:49:54.199 --> 00:49:56.239 INTERESTING i agree with you About. ACE i think there's 1013 00:49:56.280 --> 00:49:58.480 a lot to like about, him namely as. MEASURABLES i, 1014 00:49:58.480 --> 00:50:01.320 mean he's super, long and you know there are moments 1015 00:50:01.360 --> 00:50:04.920 of pretty stunning, athleticism BUT i don't think he'll be 1016 00:50:05.000 --> 00:50:07.000 ready to go right out of the. Gates then THERE'S. Vj. 1017 00:50:07.159 --> 00:50:10.079 EDGECOMB a lot of people like The Jeremiah Fears, kid 1018 00:50:10.079 --> 00:50:13.239 the point guard From, Oklahoma Tray johnson From texas in the. 1019 00:50:13.280 --> 00:50:15.880 Mix so if it's a Three, tom if The jazz 1020 00:50:15.920 --> 00:50:18.039 don't get one and they can't Get, cooper if they 1021 00:50:18.079 --> 00:50:19.840 can't make a trade and they're not a two For, 1022 00:50:19.920 --> 00:50:21.840 dylan who do you think they land on at? Three 1023 00:50:21.880 --> 00:50:23.400 and y Oh? 1024 00:50:23.519 --> 00:50:24.039 MAN i LOVE. 1025 00:50:24.159 --> 00:50:24.360 Vj. 1026 00:50:24.880 --> 00:50:28.960 EDGECOMB i don't know who The jazz would take at number, 1027 00:50:29.000 --> 00:50:30.840 three but IF i were The, JAZZ i would TAKE. 1028 00:50:30.920 --> 00:50:33.320 Vj he is just a, Baller he's a. 1029 00:50:33.360 --> 00:50:36.000 Hooper he is one of the best steel rates in 1030 00:50:36.039 --> 00:50:39.440 the draft two point three steals per thirty six. Minutes 1031 00:50:39.480 --> 00:50:42.239 and if you're looking at what translates or what projects 1032 00:50:42.760 --> 00:50:45.760 stardom in the next level at THE, nba. 1033 00:50:45.320 --> 00:50:47.800 Believe it or, not at steel, rate steel. 1034 00:50:47.599 --> 00:50:50.320 Ray has a very high predictive value if you're able 1035 00:50:50.679 --> 00:50:54.960 to get a bunch of steels above average at the college, 1036 00:50:55.079 --> 00:50:58.719 level those guys tend to have the ability to outperform 1037 00:50:58.760 --> 00:51:02.440 expectations at the next level in ways that we can't really. 1038 00:51:02.559 --> 00:51:06.079 Understand like there's something about that is your feel for the, 1039 00:51:06.119 --> 00:51:11.679 game YOUR iq that your activity knows for the. Ball 1040 00:51:11.719 --> 00:51:14.800 that if you're an elite defensive guy in the steels, 1041 00:51:14.840 --> 00:51:18.400 column it translates not just defensively but offensively. Too if 1042 00:51:18.440 --> 00:51:22.559 athleticism and ability to kind of get into passing lanes and, 1043 00:51:22.719 --> 00:51:27.400 strength a lot of these projections analytically are very strong FOR. 1044 00:51:27.480 --> 00:51:31.119 Vj edgecomb because of. That he's a guy who's a great. 1045 00:51:31.159 --> 00:51:34.760 Rebounder he is not an elite elite scorer at this, 1046 00:51:34.800 --> 00:51:38.559 point just scoring fifteen points a game For, baylor but 1047 00:51:39.000 --> 00:51:44.239 what we're seeing from the rest of his game, playmaking defensive, 1048 00:51:44.239 --> 00:51:45.960 playmaking his. 1049 00:51:47.639 --> 00:51:49.199 Turnover, ratio these are. 1050 00:51:49.079 --> 00:51:51.840 Things that he is doing at a really good. Level 1051 00:51:52.119 --> 00:51:54.400 AND i love his. ATHLETICISM i just think he's a 1052 00:51:54.440 --> 00:51:59.239 really good player that you might not be as much 1053 00:51:59.280 --> 00:52:02.800 of a a household, name BUT i LOVE Dj edgecomb 1054 00:52:02.840 --> 00:52:03.039 in this. 1055 00:52:03.119 --> 00:52:06.760 Class i'm gonna ask you about four and five because 1056 00:52:06.800 --> 00:52:10.599 The jazz can't fall lower than. Five so let's say 1057 00:52:11.159 --> 00:52:13.519 the order that you've outlined is the order that we, 1058 00:52:13.599 --> 00:52:17.079 see and It's, cooper It's, dylan and then IT'S Vj 1059 00:52:17.960 --> 00:52:19.960 jazz landed. Four who do you think they look at 1060 00:52:20.000 --> 00:52:21.599 and why Can? 1061 00:52:21.679 --> 00:52:24.400 NIPPLE i love the shooting from. Him i've seen him in. 1062 00:52:24.440 --> 00:52:27.239 Person he plays really, hard doesn't have a great. Wingspan 1063 00:52:28.000 --> 00:52:30.760 but when you're looking at a guy who's shooting almost 1064 00:52:30.840 --> 00:52:35.079 fifty forty ninety at the college level and plays hard, 1065 00:52:35.119 --> 00:52:38.599 defensively he's a guy THAT i think he is a 1066 00:52:38.599 --> 00:52:41.039 good wing player for The Utah jazz to build. Around 1067 00:52:41.119 --> 00:52:43.320 especially the. SHOOTING i really love. That it's got good 1068 00:52:43.400 --> 00:52:46.320 size at six, seven but, again he doesn't play a 1069 00:52:46.320 --> 00:52:48.639 lot bigger than he. Is but he had a great 1070 00:52:48.679 --> 00:52:51.920 season At, duke and when you look at the ability 1071 00:52:51.960 --> 00:52:54.639 to shoot the, ball that's something That utah really. Loves 1072 00:52:54.679 --> 00:52:57.280 they have a great shot profile in terms of getting 1073 00:52:57.679 --> 00:52:59.760 efficient shots on the, floor but they just haven't been 1074 00:52:59.760 --> 00:53:01.639 able to. Convert so IF i got the four or, 1075 00:53:01.639 --> 00:53:05.559 Five i'm hoping that Can, nipple the freshman At, duke 1076 00:53:05.719 --> 00:53:06.840 falls to them at number. 1077 00:53:06.880 --> 00:53:08.400 FIVE i think. 1078 00:53:08.280 --> 00:53:11.480 He's A he's a great, shooter good wing. Player, defensively 1079 00:53:11.719 --> 00:53:13.800 as long as you've Got Walker kessler back, there he 1080 00:53:13.840 --> 00:53:15.639 can kind of clean up some of the issues. There 1081 00:53:16.920 --> 00:53:20.440 not a point of attack. Defender let's Say edgecombe could, 1082 00:53:20.480 --> 00:53:24.679 be but he's a big, guard can play at the 1083 00:53:24.760 --> 00:53:27.079 three in a. Pinch but he's going to be a 1084 00:53:27.119 --> 00:53:29.960 guy THAT i think will be a good floor spacer 1085 00:53:30.000 --> 00:53:32.159 in a league that is trending towards three point. Shooting 1086 00:53:32.599 --> 00:53:34.559 he is a knockdown shooter AND i think he'd be 1087 00:53:34.599 --> 00:53:36.199 a great fit for for Will hardy. 1088 00:53:36.280 --> 00:53:38.920 System all, right, now let's get to The yana stuff 1089 00:53:40.000 --> 00:53:42.480 and and ULTIMATELY i talked about this to start to 1090 00:53:42.519 --> 00:53:46.320 show one of the things that makes this topic interesting 1091 00:53:46.400 --> 00:53:48.440 in Saw Lake city today is the fact that the 1092 00:53:48.480 --> 00:53:52.559 lottery is. Tonight and AFTER i saw The shams report 1093 00:53:52.639 --> 00:53:56.159 That giannis is willing to potentially look at other fits 1094 00:53:56.159 --> 00:53:59.599 outside Of. MILWAUKEE i listened to some SERIOUS xmmba. STUFF 1095 00:53:59.599 --> 00:54:01.559 i turn on some of THE nba shows just to 1096 00:54:01.559 --> 00:54:06.159 see what the conversation sounded, like and nobody brought up The. 1097 00:54:06.280 --> 00:54:09.400 JAZZ i Heard, brooklyn And brooklyn is kind of in 1098 00:54:09.440 --> 00:54:12.039 a similar spot to where The Utah jazz find themselves 1099 00:54:12.079 --> 00:54:16.039 with some decent young, talent but mostly draft capital and 1100 00:54:16.079 --> 00:54:18.639 a lot of questions to be. Answered so how do 1101 00:54:18.679 --> 00:54:20.679 you think this ends? In is there any way The 1102 00:54:20.760 --> 00:54:22.920 jazz get? Involved do you think it makes any sense at? 1103 00:54:22.920 --> 00:54:24.960 All giannis has two years left on his deal than 1104 00:54:24.960 --> 00:54:27.159 a player, Option so how do you think it plays? 1105 00:54:27.199 --> 00:54:29.079 Out and do you think The jazz have a say 1106 00:54:29.119 --> 00:54:30.000 in any of? 1107 00:54:30.000 --> 00:54:33.119 THIS i think they do because they have eight tradable 1108 00:54:33.199 --> 00:54:35.840 first round, picks two of them are in this year's. 1109 00:54:35.920 --> 00:54:40.920 Draft so if you're getting on the phone With Horace 1110 00:54:40.960 --> 00:54:45.199 John horace over In, milwaukee you're gonna basically come to 1111 00:54:45.320 --> 00:54:48.199 that table and, Say i've got eight first round picks 1112 00:54:48.679 --> 00:54:50.559 For Jannisenda decompo in my. 1113 00:54:50.639 --> 00:54:51.480 Coffers let's. 1114 00:54:51.480 --> 00:54:56.519 Talk And okase obviously is another team that can come 1115 00:54:56.559 --> 00:55:00.360 in as a threat to. That but when you're talking About, 1116 00:55:00.360 --> 00:55:04.079 okac does he fit next To Shay, Guilders alexander and 1117 00:55:04.119 --> 00:55:07.039 what they're trying to build With, okac they might be 1118 00:55:07.079 --> 00:55:11.079 a little gunshy to do something like. That and when 1119 00:55:11.119 --> 00:55:16.920 you're talking about the ability to get yanis is that 1120 00:55:17.119 --> 00:55:22.079 timetable For Utah jazz And okac the right? One and For, 1121 00:55:22.159 --> 00:55:25.920 oka see they're a super young Team Shae Guildriss alexander 1122 00:55:26.000 --> 00:55:28.199 similar To Larry markin and in that you have a 1123 00:55:28.239 --> 00:55:31.400 star player who's entering his. Prime so it makes some 1124 00:55:31.559 --> 00:55:36.440 sense in that perspective to Get. Yannis but for, ME 1125 00:55:37.159 --> 00:55:41.719 okac has thirteen tradeable first compared TO. UTAH i, mean 1126 00:55:41.719 --> 00:55:44.079 that's a crazy stat right, there that they have thirteen 1127 00:55:44.519 --> 00:55:47.360 tradable first round picks to put into a potential deal For. 1128 00:55:47.519 --> 00:55:52.039 Yannis but from an organizational, STANDPOINT i wonder IF okac 1129 00:55:52.400 --> 00:55:55.920 just isn't willing to go all in On yannis just. 1130 00:55:56.039 --> 00:55:59.320 Yet we have to see what happens here with you, 1131 00:55:59.320 --> 00:56:01.960 know the playoff and how things shake. Out But utah 1132 00:56:02.519 --> 00:56:07.079 does have that ability to put in those eight first round, 1133 00:56:07.119 --> 00:56:09.480 picks which is a trump card for just about any 1134 00:56:09.480 --> 00:56:12.880 team outside OF. Okc so can they get into The 1135 00:56:13.000 --> 00:56:16.960 COOPER i mean The yannest Sweep? Stakes, Yes BUT i 1136 00:56:17.079 --> 00:56:23.400 would BE i would not necessarily consider them a serious 1137 00:56:23.400 --> 00:56:28.320 contender BECAUSE i Think yannis would have a say in 1138 00:56:28.360 --> 00:56:32.719 this and For yannis to Leave milwaukee and look around 1139 00:56:32.760 --> 00:56:35.480 and say where DO i want to? Go that can 1140 00:56:35.519 --> 00:56:39.079 give me an opportunity to win a. CHAMPIONSHIP i don't 1141 00:56:39.119 --> 00:56:42.840 think that The Utah jazz are in the running for. 1142 00:56:42.960 --> 00:56:46.599 That it would have to be just a godfather. Offer 1143 00:56:46.960 --> 00:56:49.039 i'm talking, like if they get the number two pick 1144 00:56:49.039 --> 00:56:51.920 here and they put it into the deal along with 1145 00:56:53.159 --> 00:56:56.360 eight tradable first round, PICKS i think that's the only 1146 00:56:56.400 --> 00:56:58.480 way you're going to Get janis into The koopa to 1147 00:56:58.480 --> 00:57:02.760 play ball and The Milwaukee bucks front, office BECAUSE i 1148 00:57:02.760 --> 00:57:04.639 Think giannis wants to go to a team to win a. 1149 00:57:04.719 --> 00:57:07.360 Championship AND i just don't think that if you're Trading 1150 00:57:07.400 --> 00:57:10.400 Walker kessler And lowry market in and whoever they get 1151 00:57:10.039 --> 00:57:13.480 in the first round, HERE i don't know what is 1152 00:57:13.559 --> 00:57:17.519 left and you're Risking yanni's just turning around and, SAYING 1153 00:57:17.639 --> 00:57:19.559 i want out right. Away how AM i going to 1154 00:57:19.639 --> 00:57:23.039 be winning championships here In? UTAH i just Left milwaukee 1155 00:57:23.239 --> 00:57:25.039 where we Had Danian lillard and we didn't get that. 1156 00:57:25.079 --> 00:57:27.880 Far how can we get further than? That how DO 1157 00:57:27.960 --> 00:57:29.960 i AM i closer to winning a second championship In? 1158 00:57:30.039 --> 00:57:32.840 Utah and SO i JUST i don't see it unless, 1159 00:57:32.840 --> 00:57:36.360 there's you, know a secondary deal That Danny age can 1160 00:57:36.400 --> 00:57:40.480 poll where he's, Like i'm gonna go get a big 1161 00:57:40.519 --> 00:57:44.599 time star with you, Know Walker kessler And Lowry markinen 1162 00:57:44.679 --> 00:57:47.280 and then use the rest of my asses to go 1163 00:57:47.599 --> 00:57:49.719 all in On. YIANNIS i just don't see it right. 1164 00:57:49.760 --> 00:57:53.000 Now YEAH i don't. EITHER i don't. Either just we'll figure. 1165 00:57:53.039 --> 00:57:55.079 It at some, point somebody would bring them up as a. 1166 00:57:55.119 --> 00:57:57.760 Possibility in, Fairness Bobby marks wrote a piece where he 1167 00:57:57.840 --> 00:58:00.159 talked about the. Jazz so a couple of, minute it's, 1168 00:58:00.199 --> 00:58:02.719 less so let's do some. Playoffs teams actually, playing and 1169 00:58:02.760 --> 00:58:06.440 Tonight tommy is maybe the biggest game that The knicks 1170 00:58:06.480 --> 00:58:09.159 have played AT msg since nineteen ninety. Nine i'm not 1171 00:58:09.199 --> 00:58:12.079 even kidding when you think about what's at stake. Here 1172 00:58:12.559 --> 00:58:15.960 even after going up TO Td garden and grabbing, two you, 1173 00:58:16.000 --> 00:58:18.119 know AND i still pull for My New York. KNICKS 1174 00:58:18.119 --> 00:58:21.880 i was, WELL i was very skeptical about them being 1175 00:58:21.920 --> 00:58:25.119 able to get two. MORE i remain very skeptical about 1176 00:58:25.159 --> 00:58:27.199 them being able to get two. More, REMEMBER i know 1177 00:58:27.280 --> 00:58:29.639 you know, This but for our, Listeners boston was historically 1178 00:58:29.719 --> 00:58:32.159 good on the road this, year actually a better road 1179 00:58:32.199 --> 00:58:35.000 record than at. HOME i WISH i was there. Tonight 1180 00:58:35.079 --> 00:58:36.960 tonight it's one of those nights where you want to 1181 00:58:37.000 --> 00:58:40.079 be AT. Msg how do you think it's gonna what's 1182 00:58:40.119 --> 00:58:41.599 the scene going to be, like and what do you 1183 00:58:41.599 --> 00:58:43.840 think goes down With boston And New york. Tonight. 1184 00:58:45.039 --> 00:58:48.639 Yeah Remember game seven last year against The pacers in 1185 00:58:48.679 --> 00:58:52.239 The Eastern conference, semis The knicks got blown out AT msg, 1186 00:58:52.400 --> 00:58:56.360 yep AND i think about, that, like, man it's hard 1187 00:58:56.400 --> 00:59:00.800 to imagine that happening. Again basically getting wept at home 1188 00:59:01.039 --> 00:59:03.599 in the you, know in game three and four Against. 1189 00:59:03.679 --> 00:59:07.400 Boston But boston had much better shots there In game, 1190 00:59:07.440 --> 00:59:11.159 three AND i think they might have figured, out, like, 1191 00:59:11.239 --> 00:59:14.719 hey we can't just GO iso every. Time we got 1192 00:59:14.719 --> 00:59:17.599 to get some offense and you know the shots are 1193 00:59:17.599 --> 00:59:20.480 going to. Fall they shot was a twenty five of 1194 00:59:20.559 --> 00:59:23.519 one hundred in the first two Games boston did from 1195 00:59:23.559 --> 00:59:26.880 downtown and it was they were awesome In game three 1196 00:59:27.599 --> 00:59:30.760 and they can't Get Mitchell robinson on the floor because 1197 00:59:30.800 --> 00:59:35.639 of the hack a shock That boston's. Doing and it's 1198 00:59:35.760 --> 00:59:40.280 JUST i Think boston at this point has figured out, that, 1199 00:59:40.400 --> 00:59:43.440 yes they need to have three point shooting in their 1200 00:59:43.519 --> 00:59:45.719 arsenal in order to beat The, knicks but it can't 1201 00:59:45.760 --> 00:59:49.599 be a. One the team that has won the fast 1202 00:59:49.599 --> 00:59:52.079 break battle in this first three games have won the 1203 00:59:53.000 --> 00:59:57.159 series so. Far so The knicks opened with winning the 1204 00:59:57.280 --> 00:59:59.599 fast break column in the first two, games and then 1205 00:59:59.639 --> 01:00:02.639 The celtics got out in transition a lot more Than 1206 01:00:02.679 --> 01:00:04.760 New york, did and that starts on the defensive. End 1207 01:00:05.239 --> 01:00:07.840 so as much AS i want to say that The 1208 01:00:07.920 --> 01:00:15.440 knicks can can really make this a, series and of 1209 01:00:15.440 --> 01:00:17.519 course they're up to, ONE i still think that The 1210 01:00:17.559 --> 01:00:20.760 Boston celtics are gonna Win game four. Here but you, 1211 01:00:20.800 --> 01:00:23.840 know the way That Karl Anthony towns has played in this, 1212 01:00:23.880 --> 01:00:26.760 game in this, SERIES i do feel like there's a 1213 01:00:26.800 --> 01:00:28.960 lot more on the table that he can give just 1214 01:00:29.239 --> 01:00:32.679 one of seven From downtown in this. Series he is 1215 01:00:32.719 --> 01:00:34.760 not taking advantage of the reason why that got him 1216 01:00:34.760 --> 01:00:36.960 in the first, place was providing that spacing in the 1217 01:00:36.960 --> 01:00:40.480 five out. System and unless they're gonna get that Big 1218 01:00:40.559 --> 01:00:43.719 Karl Anthony towns, GAME i just think That boston's gonna 1219 01:00:43.760 --> 01:00:45.679 win this win this game. 1220 01:00:45.480 --> 01:00:46.360 For it's gonna be. 1221 01:00:46.360 --> 01:00:51.039 GREAT i, mean great drama between these two teams and great. 1222 01:00:51.039 --> 01:00:54.880 Competitiveness BUT i JUST i Think boston was a little 1223 01:00:54.960 --> 01:00:57.559 unlucky in their three point shooting the first two. Games 1224 01:00:57.599 --> 01:01:00.679 that looked awful like from aesthetics than point the way 1225 01:01:00.679 --> 01:01:02.760 that they were just trying to take the first three 1226 01:01:02.840 --> 01:01:05.000 that they could. GET i think they settled down a 1227 01:01:05.039 --> 01:01:06.840 little bit more In game three and got out in 1228 01:01:06.880 --> 01:01:11.280 transition and attack The knicks in the open. Court AND 1229 01:01:11.320 --> 01:01:13.280 i think that's the way they got to win In 1230 01:01:13.320 --> 01:01:16.679 game four is getting out in. Transition whoever does that 1231 01:01:17.760 --> 01:01:20.159 and doesn't have to play against a set, defense that's 1232 01:01:20.159 --> 01:01:22.199 what the team that's going to carry the day in game. 1233 01:01:22.000 --> 01:01:24.840 For you like, dogs, tom? 1234 01:01:25.000 --> 01:01:25.400 Dogs? 1235 01:01:25.519 --> 01:01:26.119 Dogs do you like? 1236 01:01:26.159 --> 01:01:29.639 Dogs i'm looking at My German shepherd right. 1237 01:01:29.639 --> 01:01:32.079 Now, OKAY i love, it love. It so here's here's 1238 01:01:32.079 --> 01:01:35.599 Where i've landed on. This Donovan mitchell is a golden, 1239 01:01:35.639 --> 01:01:38.960 doodle and you love golden. Doodles, okay everyone loves a golden. 1240 01:01:39.000 --> 01:01:41.599 Doodle cute. Dogs you can win dob shows with golden. 1241 01:01:41.599 --> 01:01:44.280 Doodles sometimes golden doodles are going to drop fifty points 1242 01:01:44.280 --> 01:01:47.000 in a playoff. Game but to win the, playoffs you 1243 01:01:47.039 --> 01:01:50.559 gotta have pit, bulls And indiana has a ton of. 1244 01:01:50.599 --> 01:01:54.199 Them is there any Way cleveland gets back into, this, say, 1245 01:01:54.199 --> 01:01:57.519 look Obviously donovan has done some really special. Things and 1246 01:01:58.000 --> 01:02:00.239 if you're The, cavs you're gonna say That garlands not 1247 01:02:00.360 --> 01:02:02.800 right and we haven't been. Healthier whatever it, is but 1248 01:02:02.880 --> 01:02:06.280 this will be looks Like tom another year Where donovan's 1249 01:02:06.280 --> 01:02:08.039 going home after the second. Round do you think The 1250 01:02:08.079 --> 01:02:10.320 cavs have any chance to get back into this? 1251 01:02:10.400 --> 01:02:15.320 Series golden? Doodles, oh do you have a golden? 1252 01:02:15.320 --> 01:02:18.280 DOODLE i have An english cream BUT i love a golden. 1253 01:02:18.280 --> 01:02:20.800 Doodle who doesn't love a golden? Doodle, Right but you're 1254 01:02:20.800 --> 01:02:23.360 not Putting you're not putting a golden doodle in a dog, 1255 01:02:23.400 --> 01:02:24.039 fight is What i'm. 1256 01:02:24.079 --> 01:02:29.400 Saying you, KNOW i think golden. Noodles my wife got 1257 01:02:29.440 --> 01:02:33.320 bit by a poodle on a run and it drew 1258 01:02:33.360 --> 01:02:36.320 blood and it was. Awful And i'm not a fan of. 1259 01:02:36.360 --> 01:02:39.679 Poodles play that all, Right so a golden doodle is 1260 01:02:39.719 --> 01:02:43.559 a mix of a poodle and golden, retriever Which i'm 1261 01:02:43.559 --> 01:02:46.239 a big. FAN i like, LABRADORS i like golden. Retrievers 1262 01:02:46.280 --> 01:02:48.880 i'm fine with. THEM i just don't like the whole doodle. 1263 01:02:48.920 --> 01:02:50.239 Things i'm out on. 1264 01:02:50.280 --> 01:02:51.639 Doodles oka putting that. 1265 01:02:51.679 --> 01:02:55.599 Aside Donovan, mitchell you can't put pit this on. HIM 1266 01:02:56.039 --> 01:02:58.440 i know It's utah and it's, that and it's your 1267 01:02:59.599 --> 01:03:03.440 region right there With Donovan. MITCHELL i can't put any 1268 01:03:03.480 --> 01:03:05.400 of what's happening here On Donovan. 1269 01:03:05.400 --> 01:03:06.360 Mitchell he showed. 1270 01:03:06.199 --> 01:03:10.079 Up in this. Series he, HAS i, mean notwithstanding the 1271 01:03:10.119 --> 01:03:12.920 second half where he missed with an ankle, injury and 1272 01:03:12.960 --> 01:03:15.679 it looks like he's a game time decision For game. 1273 01:03:15.719 --> 01:03:20.320 Five But i'm looking At Donovan mitchell And i'm, saying 1274 01:03:20.519 --> 01:03:23.559 you showed. Up everybody else, hasn't and because of. Injuries 1275 01:03:24.639 --> 01:03:28.280 you can chalk this up to the twenty Fifteen Atlanta 1276 01:03:28.280 --> 01:03:32.239 hawks showing up here in this series where it seems 1277 01:03:32.280 --> 01:03:35.800 like they're shorthanded but also a little. Overrated But i'm 1278 01:03:35.840 --> 01:03:39.719 not putting this On Donovan, mitchell a guy who in this, 1279 01:03:39.840 --> 01:03:43.039 series without playing the second, half is averaging thirty four 1280 01:03:43.039 --> 01:03:47.159 points per game and just doing so much for this 1281 01:03:47.239 --> 01:03:52.360 team that outside of, Him Evan mobley missing in this, 1282 01:03:52.519 --> 01:03:56.840 series not just literally, missing but hasn't been playing up to. 1283 01:03:56.920 --> 01:03:59.519 Himself And Ty, jerome who in my, opinion was the 1284 01:03:59.519 --> 01:04:03.119 most import player in THE nba this, year has been 1285 01:04:03.119 --> 01:04:05.760 a complete. Zero Darius garland has been in and out 1286 01:04:05.760 --> 01:04:09.880 of the, lineup hasn't been. Himself so for, ME i 1287 01:04:10.360 --> 01:04:12.519 don't want to put this On Donovan. MITCHELL i think that's. 1288 01:04:12.639 --> 01:04:16.000 Unfair but in terms of A Donovan mitchell led. Team, 1289 01:04:16.719 --> 01:04:19.800 yeah you can say that The Cleveland cavaliers have underperformed. 1290 01:04:19.800 --> 01:04:23.119 HERE i just think that The Indiana, pacers the. 1291 01:04:23.000 --> 01:04:24.639 Way that they play. 1292 01:04:26.639 --> 01:04:30.000 Beautiful, basketball the way that they move the, ball the 1293 01:04:30.039 --> 01:04:32.639 way that they get open, shots and they play with, 1294 01:04:32.840 --> 01:04:35.960 energy and they play speed and they play the pace 1295 01:04:36.000 --> 01:04:38.840 at which they play is something that The cavs have 1296 01:04:38.960 --> 01:04:43.440 completely completely. Underestimated AND i think a lot of this 1297 01:04:44.280 --> 01:04:46.360 is due to the fact that they played A Miami 1298 01:04:46.400 --> 01:04:48.760 heat team that just kind of laid down in the first. 1299 01:04:48.800 --> 01:04:52.440 Half and this is if The Miami heat they were, 1300 01:04:52.519 --> 01:04:55.800 terriers they were not pit, bulls they were Not. Rottweilers 1301 01:04:55.840 --> 01:05:01.760 and The pacers have, incredible incredibly hard nosed, defenders role 1302 01:05:01.760 --> 01:05:04.639 players on this, team and they moved the. Ball they 1303 01:05:04.719 --> 01:05:08.840 play such a smart brand of, basketball and it reminds 1304 01:05:08.880 --> 01:05:11.679 me of. SUMMERTIME i don't know if you remember, this 1305 01:05:11.760 --> 01:05:15.159 but in twenty, fourteen when The San Antonio spurs beat 1306 01:05:15.199 --> 01:05:18.480 The Miami, heat they moved the ball at such a rapid. 1307 01:05:18.519 --> 01:05:20.599 Pace they had one hundred more passes per game than 1308 01:05:20.639 --> 01:05:23.800 The Miami. Heat Lebron james Led heat in that twenty 1309 01:05:23.840 --> 01:05:28.199 FOURTEEN Nba, finals they destroyed the heat with their baalt, 1310 01:05:28.280 --> 01:05:31.119 movement and that's what The Indiana pacers are doing against 1311 01:05:31.199 --> 01:05:34.559 the against The Cleveland. Cavaliers it's just they play a 1312 01:05:34.599 --> 01:05:37.599 different brand of. Basketball and with The, cavs they were 1313 01:05:37.599 --> 01:05:40.400 a great passing, team not a high volume passing, team 1314 01:05:40.440 --> 01:05:44.280 but a great passing team in the regular, season and 1315 01:05:44.440 --> 01:05:47.159 they just look like a shell. Themselves and a lot 1316 01:05:47.199 --> 01:05:49.800 of that Is Kenny atkinson just hasn't found the right. 1317 01:05:49.840 --> 01:05:53.679 FORMULA a lot of it is the mismatches that The 1318 01:05:53.679 --> 01:05:56.400 Indiana pacers have been able to exploit On Max struce 1319 01:05:56.679 --> 01:06:01.239 And Darius. Carlin they've bullied those guys mismatches and targeted. 1320 01:06:01.280 --> 01:06:06.400 Them But Ni, smith Nem, haard these guys are killers 1321 01:06:06.400 --> 01:06:09.440 out there and Uh Tyres haliburn hasn't had a great 1322 01:06:09.480 --> 01:06:11.719 series and yet they're up three to. One it's it 1323 01:06:11.800 --> 01:06:16.760 really is an incredible testament to players who are not, 1324 01:06:16.840 --> 01:06:19.679 stars but stars in their roles in THE Inanea pacers 1325 01:06:20.119 --> 01:06:23.199 role Players. 1326 01:06:21.800 --> 01:06:23.760 Tom prediction, time who gets the number one pick? 1327 01:06:23.800 --> 01:06:28.880 Tonight i'm gonna go with The utah J there we, 1328 01:06:28.960 --> 01:06:32.639 Go And i'm, sorry is that is that jinxing or 1329 01:06:32.679 --> 01:06:33.599 is that something you want to? 1330 01:06:33.639 --> 01:06:33.760 Hear? 1331 01:06:33.920 --> 01:06:35.760 No it's good karma out. Here we need. It it's 1332 01:06:35.800 --> 01:06:37.679 a big, day. Man it's been it's been a rough 1333 01:06:37.719 --> 01:06:39.599 few years and we, need, uh we need just some 1334 01:06:39.639 --> 01:06:41.920 hope for this fan base that's used to a really competitive. 1335 01:06:41.920 --> 01:06:44.880 Team So i'll set you, loose appreciate the, time And 1336 01:06:44.920 --> 01:06:48.840 i'll get you back on. Soon Thanks, Tom You Tom 1337 01:06:48.880 --> 01:06:52.440 HABERSTROW Nba Daily assist style on a big day in 1338 01:06:52.480 --> 01:06:56.159 the world of The National basketball So association where Apparently 1339 01:06:56.760 --> 01:06:59.519 janna sante To coombo is open to being traded From. 1340 01:06:59.519 --> 01:07:02.360 Milwauk THE Nba draft lottery is. Tonight we've Got Nick, 1341 01:07:02.519 --> 01:07:05.480 celtics then we Got, Warriors Tea. Wolves didn't have time 1342 01:07:05.480 --> 01:07:06.800 to get to that With, tom but we'll do some 1343 01:07:07.159 --> 01:07:09.320 With Tony parks coming. 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Ever In, 1361 01:07:58.320 --> 01:08:02.000 daybreak what have we got an hour and twenty yep, 1362 01:08:02.079 --> 01:08:06.559 hour twenty minutes before THE Nba Draft lottery takes place. 1363 01:08:06.599 --> 01:08:11.079 Tonight programming, reminder we will say goodnight, early right at five. 1364 01:08:11.079 --> 01:08:14.639 O'clock then we'll bring YOU espn radios live coverage of 1365 01:08:14.679 --> 01:08:17.000 THE Nba Draft, lottery so stay tuned for that and 1366 01:08:17.039 --> 01:08:20.039 then a fun night OF nba basketball. Tonight it's one 1367 01:08:20.039 --> 01:08:22.239 of the biggest games At Madison Square garden in a 1368 01:08:22.319 --> 01:08:24.560 number of, years as THE nixt have an opportunity to 1369 01:08:24.560 --> 01:08:27.800 put The celtics on the precipice of, elimination and then 1370 01:08:27.840 --> 01:08:29.680 we'll see if The warriors can at least get one 1371 01:08:29.760 --> 01:08:33.199 While steph is getting. Better so fun night OF nba basketball, 1372 01:08:33.239 --> 01:08:36.039 tonight but live and, studio friend of the, program friend of. Mine, 1373 01:08:36.079 --> 01:08:38.680 Hello Tony, parks how are? You i'm, great, Man i'm. 1374 01:08:38.680 --> 01:08:39.680 Great great to see as. 1375 01:08:39.720 --> 01:08:44.039 Always getting on the flight To sacramento late, tonight starting 1376 01:08:44.039 --> 01:08:47.800 a six game series, There, okay just enjoying the baseball. 1377 01:08:47.840 --> 01:08:49.720 WORLD i love it BECAUSE i get home AND i 1378 01:08:49.760 --> 01:08:52.760 get to catch like the last half of the late. 1379 01:08:52.840 --> 01:08:53.039 Game. 1380 01:08:53.399 --> 01:08:56.520 Huh THE nba. Playoffs, man this. Round you And i've 1381 01:08:56.520 --> 01:08:58.359 always talked to. THIS i always told YOU i love this, 1382 01:08:58.479 --> 01:09:01.159 round maybe more than any because there's two games a. Night, 1383 01:09:01.319 --> 01:09:03.560 yep chances a really good one of them is gonna be. 1384 01:09:03.600 --> 01:09:06.640 Awesome it feels like every, night both of them morales for. 1385 01:09:06.680 --> 01:09:09.479 Sure is that? Way, Yeah it's Like March madness is 1386 01:09:09.520 --> 01:09:15.039 a primer for spring basketball because THE ncaa tournament is unbelievably. Entertaining, 1387 01:09:15.159 --> 01:09:18.479 yeah and then you just want THE nba, to you, 1388 01:09:18.520 --> 01:09:20.840 know have their employees show up for work and want 1389 01:09:20.880 --> 01:09:22.800 to try, hard which we just don't get enough in 1390 01:09:22.800 --> 01:09:26.199 the regular. Season but when you see, it you realize 1391 01:09:26.239 --> 01:09:27.720 what it looks like when the best players in the 1392 01:09:27.760 --> 01:09:30.119 world give a rip about playing. Basketball it's so. 1393 01:09:30.199 --> 01:09:33.479 Fun oh IT'S i mean the late game situations that 1394 01:09:33.720 --> 01:09:37.600 the intense, DEFENSE i, mean the big defensive stops in 1395 01:09:37.640 --> 01:09:39.960 the Next celtics series in those late. Games that's what 1396 01:09:40.119 --> 01:09:42.359 made and not to pull the back in my. Day 1397 01:09:42.439 --> 01:09:45.199 but what made nineties basketball so great is we just 1398 01:09:45.279 --> 01:09:47.079 remember a lot of the, playoffs but there were very 1399 01:09:47.119 --> 01:09:49.399 regular season games. Too but it was the big defensive 1400 01:09:49.399 --> 01:09:52.199 plays that you never, forgot as well as the big 1401 01:09:52.199 --> 01:09:53.560 shots that were hit and things like. 1402 01:09:53.600 --> 01:09:53.960 That it was. 1403 01:09:54.000 --> 01:09:58.159 Exciting so this whole, round, man it's had me, connected 1404 01:09:58.239 --> 01:10:01.800 engaged and fired. Up and because during the regular SEASON 1405 01:10:01.840 --> 01:10:03.479 i had so much going, ON i didn't get a 1406 01:10:03.560 --> 01:10:05.000 chance to really watch a ton of. 1407 01:10:05.039 --> 01:10:07.800 It, sure but, Man i've been glued to every bit of. 1408 01:10:07.800 --> 01:10:09.920 This so before we get to what could be a 1409 01:10:10.000 --> 01:10:12.600 historic night for The jazz and your thoughts on you 1410 01:10:12.600 --> 01:10:16.840 know they what they could grab if it's one Obviously cooper, 1411 01:10:16.840 --> 01:10:18.560 flag what that could mean for our, market give us 1412 01:10:18.600 --> 01:10:21.000 an update on the. Beast and here here's actually WHAT 1413 01:10:21.039 --> 01:10:22.680 i wanted to ask you WHEN i sound saw you 1414 01:10:22.720 --> 01:10:25.319 on the rundown. Today now that you've been doing this 1415 01:10:25.439 --> 01:10:28.720 job for a while after we Lost steve rest in, 1416 01:10:28.760 --> 01:10:33.079 Peace Steve, cloukey any of it surprising to. YOU i 1417 01:10:33.079 --> 01:10:34.720 know you filled in a, bunch but now that you've 1418 01:10:34.720 --> 01:10:36.800 been the full time guy for a. While m, hm 1419 01:10:37.159 --> 01:10:39.359 has it been what you? Expected has it been, better 1420 01:10:39.399 --> 01:10:40.359 has it been? Harder? 1421 01:10:40.560 --> 01:10:40.680 What? 1422 01:10:40.800 --> 01:10:41.800 Like just your thoughts on? 1423 01:10:41.840 --> 01:10:44.880 It ben EVERYTHING i would Expect in terms of the baseball. 1424 01:10:44.880 --> 01:10:47.239 STUFF i, mean there's just no, doubt, man the the 1425 01:10:47.720 --> 01:10:50.800 enjoying calling a baseball game every, day waking up every, 1426 01:10:50.840 --> 01:10:53.479 day people ask you, know how do you do so many? 1427 01:10:53.640 --> 01:10:57.359 Games And i'm, like it's, awesome, Man LIKE i love. 1428 01:10:57.399 --> 01:11:00.560 It there's a game, tomorrow after, that there's after, That 1429 01:11:00.640 --> 01:11:04.119 LIKE i love. That each game it's, like by no 1430 01:11:04.159 --> 01:11:06.520 means DO i Think i'm The Bob rosso, Broadcasters but 1431 01:11:07.000 --> 01:11:09.199 each game it's LIKE i got this, canvas AND i 1432 01:11:09.279 --> 01:11:11.600 and and some of IT i get to, paint but 1433 01:11:11.680 --> 01:11:13.479 the players in the game paint most of. IT i 1434 01:11:13.560 --> 01:11:15.720 just get to be a piece of. THAT i get 1435 01:11:15.760 --> 01:11:17.760 to be a piece of the journey for every single 1436 01:11:17.760 --> 01:11:21.119 player on their way to the major. Leagues i've had 1437 01:11:21.159 --> 01:11:25.000 interactions with three or four players right after they got. 1438 01:11:25.039 --> 01:11:28.119 Informed they're headed up and that's the good. STORY i 1439 01:11:28.159 --> 01:11:29.720 can't tell you what that moment's. 1440 01:11:29.880 --> 01:11:32.600 Like Man, like it's like you see them at, eight, 1441 01:11:32.800 --> 01:11:35.600 nine ten years, old all at the same time in 1442 01:11:35.640 --> 01:11:38.399 this one, moment because many times they've talked to me 1443 01:11:38.520 --> 01:11:41.439 before they get to call their. Parents you, know it's, like, 1444 01:11:41.520 --> 01:11:44.039 yeah you're right. THERE i, mean it's the freshest thing to. It, 1445 01:11:44.119 --> 01:11:47.880 YES i Remember Gustavo camparo jumped into my arms. 1446 01:11:47.600 --> 01:11:49.439 And was, Like i'm going through the big. Leagues he's 1447 01:11:49.520 --> 01:11:50.479 like so fired. 1448 01:11:50.560 --> 01:11:53.279 Up so all of that has been EVERYTHING i could 1449 01:11:53.279 --> 01:11:54.239 have ever imagined and. 1450 01:11:54.319 --> 01:11:56.159 MORE i gotta tell, you there's nothing GOING i. 1451 01:11:56.159 --> 01:11:59.000 Get and you, know for, me BEFORE i was ever 1452 01:11:59.079 --> 01:12:02.159 hired for the job, PERSONAL i mean it's very personal 1453 01:12:04.239 --> 01:12:08.479 being there as THE mc of THE bs and behind the, 1454 01:12:08.520 --> 01:12:12.640 scenes there was a cultural expectation to be something where 1455 01:12:12.680 --> 01:12:15.479 you just ultimately strive to be the very very best 1456 01:12:15.520 --> 01:12:17.720 that you can and even then some like your, constant 1457 01:12:17.760 --> 01:12:19.920 it's an endless. Pursuit that's what it was For, Steve 1458 01:12:19.960 --> 01:12:22.399 that's what it is for, me but also to help 1459 01:12:22.439 --> 01:12:24.760 my teammates be that, too And steve carried that. 1460 01:12:24.840 --> 01:12:28.199 Standard the strange thing has been no. 1461 01:12:28.279 --> 01:12:31.600 Doubt AND i don't blame anybody for this because the 1462 01:12:31.720 --> 01:12:38.119 timelines were so, close With steve, Retiring steve me then 1463 01:12:38.279 --> 01:12:40.840 being the full time, voice and Then steve tragically passing. 1464 01:12:40.880 --> 01:12:45.199 Away there's usually a mix up of people forgetting because 1465 01:12:45.199 --> 01:12:48.680 they BELIEVE i took over after he passed, away and 1466 01:12:48.960 --> 01:12:50.640 it just, happens, like you can't blame. 1467 01:12:50.680 --> 01:12:53.399 People it's just so close to, like, wait, now so 1468 01:12:53.439 --> 01:12:55.920 what take me through the experience when he passed away 1469 01:12:55.960 --> 01:12:58.279 and then you took. Over it's, like And i've been 1470 01:12:58.319 --> 01:13:00.239 in live interviews Or i've had to, say well he, 1471 01:13:00.319 --> 01:13:03.760 retired and you can see them on the air realizing, like, oh, 1472 01:13:03.840 --> 01:13:04.600 OKAY i didn't know. 1473 01:13:04.680 --> 01:13:07.199 That so that's, just you, know a small. 1474 01:13:07.199 --> 01:13:08.760 Thing or somebody will be, like, YEAH i loved your, 1475 01:13:08.760 --> 01:13:10.640 Broadcast SO i hope they make that a permanent. 1476 01:13:10.680 --> 01:13:12.279 Thing you. 1477 01:13:12.319 --> 01:13:17.560 Know in these shoes and it's like, no, no, no, No 1478 01:13:17.359 --> 01:13:20.199 steve had his shoes and no one will ever be 1479 01:13:20.319 --> 01:13:23.199 those shoes AND i have my own pair of shoes And. 1480 01:13:23.119 --> 01:13:25.600 Steve would want it that. Way so it's kind of 1481 01:13:26.000 --> 01:13:26.600 unique in that. 1482 01:13:26.640 --> 01:13:29.840 Way, now that's another part of the, tragedy And i've 1483 01:13:29.840 --> 01:13:33.039 been in great touch with his Daughter, lisa his Wife, 1484 01:13:33.119 --> 01:13:35.359 sue And adam AND i stay in, touch but we're 1485 01:13:35.880 --> 01:13:38.520 very unique on when our busy seasons are, So so, 1486 01:13:38.560 --> 01:13:42.119 anyway it's been it's been beautiful to have that connection 1487 01:13:42.199 --> 01:13:44.319 With steve's. Family the opening night there at the ballpark 1488 01:13:44.319 --> 01:13:47.000 and walking around just to kind of get the, vibe 1489 01:13:47.199 --> 01:13:49.000 AND i saw them and all three of us were 1490 01:13:49.039 --> 01:13:51.359 like so emotional to see each other on that. 1491 01:13:51.439 --> 01:13:54.039 Night so, anyway it's been EVERYTHING i could dream. Of, 1492 01:13:54.159 --> 01:13:58.359 yeah you, know, look it was an unspeakable tragedy no matter. 1493 01:13:58.520 --> 01:14:00.760 What but the fact that he had retired and was 1494 01:14:00.800 --> 01:14:03.199 ready to kind of go do the thing and live 1495 01:14:03.279 --> 01:14:06.239 the rest of his, life it almost stings even. More 1496 01:14:06.399 --> 01:14:09.039 even though it just sings horribly no matter what people, 1497 01:14:09.079 --> 01:14:11.079 do forget That steve had. Retired he was ready to 1498 01:14:11.119 --> 01:14:12.640 go live the rest of his golden years with his, 1499 01:14:12.680 --> 01:14:13.399 family THAT'S i. 1500 01:14:13.439 --> 01:14:16.199 Mean and he had all this Pan every Time i'd 1501 01:14:16.199 --> 01:14:18.479 see him at the, ballpark he was like so proud of. 1502 01:14:18.520 --> 01:14:21.600 Me he loved listening to my, game you know WHAT i. 1503 01:14:21.680 --> 01:14:23.199 Mean and he was that type of. Guy, yeah and 1504 01:14:23.279 --> 01:14:27.039 he loved giving me all this feedback mostly. Positive people were, 1505 01:14:27.039 --> 01:14:29.159 like was he giving you? Feedback, yeah and most of 1506 01:14:29.199 --> 01:14:31.680 it was. Positive he loved the WAY i set things 1507 01:14:31.760 --> 01:14:34.039 up and called this play, here and he liked that 1508 01:14:34.119 --> 01:14:36.920 he AND i were different by the. Way he liked 1509 01:14:36.920 --> 01:14:38.720 that he AND i were different in the way we 1510 01:14:38.800 --> 01:14:41.479 called the. Game the most important area IS i think we're, 1511 01:14:41.520 --> 01:14:44.800 similar but in the ultimate art we were. 1512 01:14:44.840 --> 01:14:46.039 Different and he liked. 1513 01:14:46.079 --> 01:14:48.600 That and then he was out on a, Walk that's 1514 01:14:48.640 --> 01:14:50.680 what he was, doing and WHEN i was. In what's 1515 01:14:50.720 --> 01:14:53.600 crazy is WHEN i was informed of what. HAPPENED i 1516 01:14:53.720 --> 01:14:56.560 had the girls with me on a trip To. Vegas 1517 01:14:56.600 --> 01:14:57.960 they flew, IN i flew. In we all got to 1518 01:14:58.039 --> 01:15:00.560 the airport. Together we stayed up super late because the 1519 01:15:00.600 --> 01:15:03.279 adrenaline was high and we as a. Family the reason 1520 01:15:03.319 --> 01:15:06.159 why they were there with me at that time is 1521 01:15:06.279 --> 01:15:08.319 earlier in the, YEAR i picked his brain on a 1522 01:15:08.359 --> 01:15:09.680 lot of. STUFF i, said if you could go back 1523 01:15:09.680 --> 01:15:12.600 and do one thing over more often or just, different he, 1524 01:15:12.680 --> 01:15:15.079 SAID i would have had the family travel with me even. 1525 01:15:15.079 --> 01:15:16.880 More he, SAID i did, it BUT i would have 1526 01:15:16.880 --> 01:15:17.520 done it even. 1527 01:15:17.560 --> 01:15:17.680 MORE. 1528 01:15:17.760 --> 01:15:19.399 Yea SO i was, like heck with, It let's just 1529 01:15:19.439 --> 01:15:21.119 do as much as we can when we can for. 1530 01:15:21.159 --> 01:15:22.840 Sure SO i had him on that trip and they 1531 01:15:22.840 --> 01:15:25.199 were in the room when the announcement was made on 1532 01:15:25.239 --> 01:15:25.560 a zoom. 1533 01:15:25.600 --> 01:15:29.319 Call that's. Tough that's, tough so no easy way to 1534 01:15:29.840 --> 01:15:32.199 nextit that space so non sequitary a. Bit but how's 1535 01:15:32.239 --> 01:15:34.079 how's the team give us a little? Overview and how's 1536 01:15:34.079 --> 01:15:37.359 the how's the new? Ballpark how's the? Experience? Man New ballpark's? Beautiful? 1537 01:15:37.359 --> 01:15:40.159 MAN i mean that twilight, hour like you never know 1538 01:15:40.479 --> 01:15:41.800 until you get an experience of. 1539 01:15:41.840 --> 01:15:42.560 It, sure but. 1540 01:15:42.600 --> 01:15:45.439 Sitting up, there every time we hit a twilight hour 1541 01:15:45.600 --> 01:15:50.760 where the sun where the natural lighting in the stadium 1542 01:15:50.840 --> 01:15:53.520 lights are doing the same amount of work to keep the, 1543 01:15:53.560 --> 01:15:56.319 field you, know lit, up and then you look. 1544 01:15:56.199 --> 01:15:58.840 Out and around, whoa, man is it? 1545 01:15:58.920 --> 01:16:01.880 Beautiful and you got the the scene of the mountains 1546 01:16:02.479 --> 01:16:05.279 and you've got just that overall look beyond and it'll 1547 01:16:05.279 --> 01:16:08.159 look even better after everything gets. Completed and still like 1548 01:16:08.720 --> 01:16:11.079 that's a really cool moment for sure, ballpark. 1549 01:16:11.159 --> 01:16:12.840 Man so it's beautiful to see. 1550 01:16:12.840 --> 01:16:15.439 That fans when they come they talk, about you, know 1551 01:16:15.479 --> 01:16:18.800 how great the experience. Is you, know it's it's been 1552 01:16:18.840 --> 01:16:21.279 really neat the bes. EVENT a number of guys getting calls. 1553 01:16:21.359 --> 01:16:24.159 Up you, know they get called. Up it's one thing 1554 01:16:24.159 --> 01:16:26.920 that we. See we see dudes playing really, well see you. 1555 01:16:27.000 --> 01:16:30.359 Later that's how it. Works and so it's been, Cool, 1556 01:16:30.399 --> 01:16:34.000 like you, know the rotation really solidified themselves on some 1557 01:16:34.039 --> 01:16:36.039 of those road. Trips they want a. Series they look, 1558 01:16:36.079 --> 01:16:38.439 good all these quality. Starts next, thing you, know you 1559 01:16:38.479 --> 01:16:41.000 have three bullpen games in a. Series that's the name 1560 01:16:41.039 --> 01:16:44.279 of the game is so so it's been fun to 1561 01:16:44.319 --> 01:16:47.399 watch a lot of the individual success combined with some 1562 01:16:47.439 --> 01:16:50.119 of the team's success when it's. Happening and so it's 1563 01:16:50.159 --> 01:16:51.359 been fun to be around. 1564 01:16:51.119 --> 01:16:53.439 Good, good, good good good. Crowds we're getting some Good. 1565 01:16:54.159 --> 01:16:57.640 Yeah saturday, night you, know you have a great fever 1566 01:16:57.800 --> 01:17:00.800 pitch when the team was up and then they were 1567 01:17:00.800 --> 01:17:03.039 down and then the game kind of bled, out but 1568 01:17:03.119 --> 01:17:06.520 the energy and the pageantry of the crowd was top 1569 01:17:06.560 --> 01:17:07.680 shelf On saturday. 1570 01:17:07.760 --> 01:17:09.520 Night great to. Hear SO i wanted to ask you 1571 01:17:09.560 --> 01:17:11.640 this today and in our next, segment we'll do some, 1572 01:17:11.720 --> 01:17:13.600 jazz we'll do some. Lottery we'll get back to some 1573 01:17:13.680 --> 01:17:16.399 of that stuff because the lottery is on this radio 1574 01:17:16.479 --> 01:17:19.560 station in one hour and ten minutes right. Now but 1575 01:17:19.760 --> 01:17:23.920 there was some news not too long ago that became 1576 01:17:23.960 --> 01:17:29.680 official and you referenced The bees culture of everybody starting 1577 01:17:29.720 --> 01:17:31.600 in their. Role you didn't use that, term but you, 1578 01:17:31.600 --> 01:17:34.560 know whatever you, do let's go ahead and do whatever 1579 01:17:34.600 --> 01:17:36.840 we can to make sure that we're on the right 1580 01:17:36.920 --> 01:17:39.000 seat on the bus and we're moving forward and we're 1581 01:17:39.000 --> 01:17:41.840 trying to work hard to be. Great how much of 1582 01:17:41.880 --> 01:17:45.600 that culture would you attribute to The millers owning the 1583 01:17:45.640 --> 01:17:48.439 club because they now own our soccer team now on 1584 01:17:48.600 --> 01:17:52.800 Raiosol Lay and so obviously with my, BACKGROUND i have 1585 01:17:52.840 --> 01:17:55.720 a ton of friends AT, rsl AND i worked with 1586 01:17:55.960 --> 01:17:58.159 you for The millers for seven, years SO i have 1587 01:17:58.279 --> 01:18:03.000 this unique paradigm WHERE i know the, CLUB i KNOW, 1588 01:18:03.159 --> 01:18:05.640 rsl AND i know the culture that we wanted to 1589 01:18:05.760 --> 01:18:08.119 set back in two thousand and. Four and then WHEN 1590 01:18:08.119 --> 01:18:10.560 i LEFT rsl for The jazz in twenty, eleven spent 1591 01:18:10.640 --> 01:18:12.760 seven years working for The. Millers So i've talked to 1592 01:18:12.840 --> 01:18:14.319 a lot of people over there BECAUSE i have the 1593 01:18:14.359 --> 01:18:17.079 experience that they're now just starting AND i had a 1594 01:18:17.079 --> 01:18:19.399 great experience working for The millers for seven, years AND 1595 01:18:19.560 --> 01:18:21.920 i do think they were excellent stewards of The, jazz 1596 01:18:21.960 --> 01:18:24.800 AND i think there'll be excellent stewards for our soccer. 1597 01:18:24.840 --> 01:18:27.359 Team but as somebody that has worked for them for 1598 01:18:27.399 --> 01:18:29.279 a number of, years what would you say to our 1599 01:18:29.319 --> 01:18:31.279 friends AT rsl that now have the new ownership. 1600 01:18:31.279 --> 01:18:35.399 Group they are magnificent at the cultural expectation of striving for, 1601 01:18:35.479 --> 01:18:39.600 excellence of truly understanding like how high the bar can be. 1602 01:18:39.680 --> 01:18:42.359 Set the other, THING i think they do a wonderful 1603 01:18:42.439 --> 01:18:45.479 job of creating synergy among those who are working. Together 1604 01:18:45.600 --> 01:18:47.680 i'm In Trey fitzgerald AND i had a chance to 1605 01:18:47.720 --> 01:18:50.600 sit down for breakfast and we're talking about. That, OH i, 1606 01:18:50.680 --> 01:18:54.520 know we're doing five six and under. Club, sorry, FOLKS 1607 01:18:54.840 --> 01:18:56.560 i wasn't going, Next, TONY i wasn't going. 1608 01:18:56.560 --> 01:18:58.479 THERE i beat you to. It, no it was. 1609 01:18:58.520 --> 01:19:00.319 Funny we sat, there you, know we had a kids 1610 01:19:00.359 --> 01:19:01.960 menu in front of us and we were talking it. Out, 1611 01:19:02.319 --> 01:19:04.199 no but We one THING i really like about TRYING 1612 01:19:04.239 --> 01:19:06.439 i think he's such a great Fit John, kimball Who 1613 01:19:06.479 --> 01:19:09.000 i've always enjoyed being. Around, like there's some people there 1614 01:19:09.000 --> 01:19:13.319 That i'm, Going, okay they understand the critical piece of 1615 01:19:14.119 --> 01:19:14.600 how to. 1616 01:19:16.960 --> 01:19:17.359 What AM i? 1617 01:19:17.399 --> 01:19:21.279 Thinking you don't stay in your lane but not playing 1618 01:19:21.279 --> 01:19:24.760 out of position like. BASEBALL i use these examples all the, 1619 01:19:24.760 --> 01:19:27.760 time like you're a second, baseman you might not you 1620 01:19:27.840 --> 01:19:30.000 might have to come all the way across the field 1621 01:19:30.039 --> 01:19:33.640 to be an extra cutoff on a throw right or. Third, 1622 01:19:33.640 --> 01:19:36.840 basically there's different situations where you don't stay in your, 1623 01:19:36.880 --> 01:19:39.000 lane but you also know how to not play out a. 1624 01:19:39.000 --> 01:19:41.720 Position and they're, really really. Good AND i think at 1625 01:19:41.720 --> 01:19:44.159 the ballpark with a lot of the folks THAT i 1626 01:19:44.199 --> 01:19:46.039 have a chance to work with on the broadcast, side 1627 01:19:46.239 --> 01:19:48.680 from the production to the comms. Department you, KNOW i 1628 01:19:48.720 --> 01:19:51.199 Think Nate thompson's doing a stellar. Job he came over 1629 01:19:51.239 --> 01:19:53.600 from The dodgers. ORGANIZATION i mean he just jumps right, 1630 01:19:53.640 --> 01:19:55.920 in you, know he gets, it man. Like, Yeah and 1631 01:19:55.920 --> 01:19:59.039 there's ways to do a wonderful job of you, know 1632 01:19:59.039 --> 01:20:01.319 knowing how to be a back up, here knowing how 1633 01:20:01.359 --> 01:20:03.600 to create support, here knowing how to do your job 1634 01:20:03.800 --> 01:20:08.600 to make life easier on, MARKETING, prcr everyone all across the. 1635 01:20:08.640 --> 01:20:11.279 Board AND i think that many people there at Rials 1636 01:20:11.319 --> 01:20:14.680 alake are about to experience why that becomes such a 1637 01:20:14.840 --> 01:20:18.159 key part of the fabric to the success of an 1638 01:20:18.319 --> 01:20:19.000 entire team working. 1639 01:20:19.039 --> 01:20:22.520 Together it sounds so, simplistic but it's so nice to 1640 01:20:22.560 --> 01:20:25.239 have co workers who just get. It, oh you, know 1641 01:20:25.359 --> 01:20:27.680 it sounds like the most simple thing you can possibly, 1642 01:20:27.720 --> 01:20:29.840 say because, yeah of, course of course you should just get. 1643 01:20:29.880 --> 01:20:32.800 It but there's a big gap between people that just 1644 01:20:32.880 --> 01:20:35.399 get it and people that just don't and never. Will 1645 01:20:35.560 --> 01:20:38.840 so you could have helped, here you saw the. 1646 01:20:38.920 --> 01:20:42.399 Problem if you had moved two millimeters over, here it 1647 01:20:42.399 --> 01:20:45.520 would have affected you zero percent and would have helped 1648 01:20:45.560 --> 01:20:53.199 them seventy. Percent and you decided voluntarily not to. Assist, okay, 1649 01:20:53.319 --> 01:20:55.640 yep you, know and then you just told on. Himself, 1650 01:20:55.720 --> 01:20:57.439 YEAH i, MEAN i just you, know just to walk through. 1651 01:20:57.439 --> 01:20:59.319 It that's the. Facts and you're. 1652 01:20:59.439 --> 01:21:03.520 Right that isn't your, job and that's Not you're totally, right, Right, 1653 01:21:03.640 --> 01:21:05.119 okay all, right all, right. 1654 01:21:05.039 --> 01:21:06.600 Before we catch a, break let me ask you this. 1655 01:21:06.680 --> 01:21:10.000 Question then we'll do some lottery stuff Talk Cooper flag, 1656 01:21:10.039 --> 01:21:16.159 Talk Dylan Harper. Giannis as you watch the, playoffs and, 1657 01:21:16.199 --> 01:21:19.640 LOOK i want to be clear because there are very 1658 01:21:19.640 --> 01:21:22.800 few media members that have the KNOWLEDGE i have about 1659 01:21:22.800 --> 01:21:25.239 what happened behind the scenes With mitchell And gobert And. 1660 01:21:25.319 --> 01:21:28.680 Quinn SO i know the, Deal, OKAY i know why 1661 01:21:28.680 --> 01:21:30.920 it all went. Down, okay if you want to look 1662 01:21:31.000 --> 01:21:33.239 to one person as to who really broke this thing. 1663 01:21:33.279 --> 01:21:35.960 Down it Was. Donovan it just was no matter how 1664 01:21:35.960 --> 01:21:38.000 many podcasts he goes on to, say we had more 1665 01:21:38.039 --> 01:21:40.199 meat on that bone In. Utah not sure why we 1666 01:21:40.520 --> 01:21:42.600 pulled the rip. Cord it's, like, dude come, on we 1667 01:21:42.680 --> 01:21:44.880 all know exactly what happened and we know the. Deal 1668 01:21:46.359 --> 01:21:49.439 BUT i would hear people say After Nico harrison Traded, 1669 01:21:49.479 --> 01:21:51.439 LUCA i would hear people, say, well no team ever 1670 01:21:51.520 --> 01:21:53.800 trades a twenty five year old. Superstar i'm, like, well 1671 01:21:54.239 --> 01:21:57.159 And i'm not Saying Donovan's. Luca, Okay i'm, not But 1672 01:21:57.279 --> 01:21:59.760 danny made a calculated decision to trade a twenty five 1673 01:21:59.840 --> 01:22:02.720 year year old dynamic offensive, force and The cavs are. 1674 01:22:02.760 --> 01:22:07.479 Screwed But donovan has been really special and again is 1675 01:22:07.520 --> 01:22:09.640 about to go, HOME i think after the second, round 1676 01:22:09.720 --> 01:22:12.239 so he won't get to a conference. Final and then 1677 01:22:12.279 --> 01:22:14.640 we See gobert with a historic twenty twenty game to 1678 01:22:14.680 --> 01:22:17.159 close out The, lakers like a game That wilt, had 1679 01:22:17.199 --> 01:22:20.279 and that's. It it's like plus twenty five, points plus twenty, 1680 01:22:20.319 --> 01:22:23.800 boards eighty percent field, goal that's rarefied. Air you See 1681 01:22:23.800 --> 01:22:25.880 Mike conley hitting big. Shots you know you've Seen Nakil 1682 01:22:25.920 --> 01:22:30.000 Alexander walker playing a massively important role For minnesota as 1683 01:22:30.000 --> 01:22:32.880 somebody who was with the organization during The Gobart Mitchell, 1684 01:22:32.920 --> 01:22:36.079 Quinn Dennis lindsay iteration of The Utah Jazz is there 1685 01:22:36.119 --> 01:22:38.960 any part of you watching these former jazz players really 1686 01:22:38.960 --> 01:22:42.039 ball out and wonder, like, hmm was that the right? 1687 01:22:42.079 --> 01:22:42.960 Play was that the right? 1688 01:22:43.000 --> 01:22:45.279 Call so to, me it's never about what they go 1689 01:22:45.359 --> 01:22:47.520 on to, do it's about what you go on to 1690 01:22:47.560 --> 01:22:50.920 do when you leave a, relationship when you leave a, 1691 01:22:51.039 --> 01:22:54.159 job when whatever you do it can't be, WELL i 1692 01:22:54.159 --> 01:22:55.800 don't want to leave this Because i'm afraid that they 1693 01:22:55.840 --> 01:22:57.960 might go on to have, success and how that looks on, 1694 01:22:58.079 --> 01:23:00.359 me and how that that cannot be the and why 1695 01:23:00.359 --> 01:23:02.159 you do. It The luca move may have been the 1696 01:23:02.239 --> 01:23:04.399 absolute right. MOVE i don't know under the hood what 1697 01:23:04.520 --> 01:23:06.680 goes on With. Dallas should you have been able to 1698 01:23:06.680 --> 01:23:09.600 get a lot more for? That, yes that was the. 1699 01:23:09.640 --> 01:23:13.439 Failure so if you're gonna make the move Like Greg, 1700 01:23:13.479 --> 01:23:16.520 popovich who you, know anybody can feel how they want about. 1701 01:23:16.600 --> 01:23:19.199 Him he didn't make the move With rodman and then 1702 01:23:19.239 --> 01:23:22.720 be afraid that The bulls might win three, titles because 1703 01:23:22.720 --> 01:23:24.000 if that was the, case then you stay in a 1704 01:23:24.000 --> 01:23:26.319 toxic situation that you don't think is gonna work for. 1705 01:23:26.399 --> 01:23:28.960 What so he doesn't go. Win so now both of you. 1706 01:23:29.039 --> 01:23:31.920 Lose So rodman goes on to win three championships with 1707 01:23:31.960 --> 01:23:34.319 The bulls And Greg popovich has got egg on his 1708 01:23:34.399 --> 01:23:37.159 face and he pretty much fires himself and fires. Him 1709 01:23:37.199 --> 01:23:39.439 somebody puts himself the coach to to, Say, okay now 1710 01:23:39.479 --> 01:23:41.319 i'm gonna see IF i can walk the walk with this. 1711 01:23:41.359 --> 01:23:43.199 Thing i'm gonna put my name on. It we goes 1712 01:23:43.239 --> 01:23:46.199 and wins five. Titles the point was the payoff for. 1713 01:23:46.279 --> 01:23:49.199 You so anytime you make a move like, that the 1714 01:23:49.239 --> 01:23:52.840 focus needs to be on one particular, thing the payoff for. 1715 01:23:52.960 --> 01:23:54.359 You and many times that's long. 1716 01:23:54.439 --> 01:23:56.720 Term Now i'm not saying everybody has to agree with 1717 01:23:56.760 --> 01:23:59.600 every move after the trades With donovan And rudy and all. 1718 01:23:59.520 --> 01:24:00.560 That BUT i got news for. 1719 01:24:00.600 --> 01:24:04.399 You if you stay with that in any, variation any 1720 01:24:04.439 --> 01:24:08.079 shape or, form because nobody was without some sort of 1721 01:24:08.079 --> 01:24:11.760 fault and all of, that, then like in my, opinion 1722 01:24:11.960 --> 01:24:14.199 you're hanging on to something THAT i think would not have. 1723 01:24:14.159 --> 01:24:16.560 Given you the ultimate result that you. 1724 01:24:16.640 --> 01:24:19.239 Wanted you wanted the ultimate result you moved on from, 1725 01:24:19.239 --> 01:24:22.439 Them so you made the right. Change now the question 1726 01:24:22.560 --> 01:24:24.600 is do you make all the right moves after to 1727 01:24:24.680 --> 01:24:25.520 get you the ultimate. 1728 01:24:25.560 --> 01:24:27.199 Dream that's where it's on them. 1729 01:24:27.239 --> 01:24:29.439 Now And danny, Said i'm going to bet on me 1730 01:24:29.840 --> 01:24:34.520 THAT i have the, ability skill and the talent with 1731 01:24:34.760 --> 01:24:37.279 my job if you will to eventually go achieve. 1732 01:24:37.319 --> 01:24:39.720 That now it's on him to do. It but let's 1733 01:24:39.720 --> 01:24:42.119 say he. Doesn't let's Say danny doesn't go on to do. 1734 01:24:42.159 --> 01:24:43.800 IT i do this With bears fans all the. Time 1735 01:24:43.800 --> 01:24:44.760 With Lovey, smith. 1736 01:24:44.720 --> 01:24:49.279 They never fired Love no right, fire wrong hires all 1737 01:24:49.319 --> 01:24:51.800 the way. Out so right move to move on from that? 1738 01:24:51.840 --> 01:24:55.399 Era was it the right choices going? Forward that's on you, now. 1739 01:24:55.560 --> 01:24:57.760 Yep and to your, point it's very much an incomplete 1740 01:24:57.760 --> 01:25:00.079 And i'm not ready to annoint or dismiss because there 1741 01:25:00.199 --> 01:25:02.840 so many options they have at their. DISPOSAL i do 1742 01:25:02.960 --> 01:25:05.000 think before we catch or Break tony and you tell 1743 01:25:05.039 --> 01:25:06.720 me if you, AGREE i think it's only fair to 1744 01:25:06.760 --> 01:25:10.760 say so far the results have been very. MIXED i, 1745 01:25:10.760 --> 01:25:14.399 mean the picks they've, had the young players they've landed, 1746 01:25:14.439 --> 01:25:17.279 on you, know their. DIRECTION i don't, know, MAN i 1747 01:25:17.399 --> 01:25:19.880 just think it's so counter to an athlete to be 1748 01:25:20.479 --> 01:25:22.920 told like we are unseious about, winning even if it's 1749 01:25:22.960 --> 01:25:25.239 the wrong. THING i don't, know, WELL i think it. 1750 01:25:25.279 --> 01:25:27.079 Anyway the one Thing i'll, say AND i know we 1751 01:25:27.159 --> 01:25:30.840 got to get to it's a longer. THING i thought they'd. 1752 01:25:30.880 --> 01:25:35.560 BE i thought they'd be farther. DOWN i thought they'd 1753 01:25:35.560 --> 01:25:38.279 be closer Or i'm not saying to a. CHAMPIONSHIP i 1754 01:25:38.279 --> 01:25:40.319 thought there'd be more progress at this point than what we've. 1755 01:25:40.319 --> 01:25:42.479 See, yeah, NO i think that's. Fair all, Right Tony 1756 01:25:42.520 --> 01:25:44.720 parks live in. Studio team mind us one hour and 1757 01:25:44.800 --> 01:25:47.760 three minutes before THE Nba draft, lottery live here on the, 1758 01:25:47.800 --> 01:25:50.239 Station so keep that in. Mind if you're not going 1759 01:25:50.319 --> 01:25:52.520 to be home by, Five if you're driving around town 1760 01:25:53.000 --> 01:25:55.359 and you're curious to see where The jazz will, draft 1761 01:25:55.359 --> 01:25:58.279 to make sure to keep it locked right. Here tony stops. 1762 01:25:58.279 --> 01:26:01.319 Spotterday courtesy of our friends At Courtland, roofing re roofing 1763 01:26:01.399 --> 01:26:04.439 and roof repair experts with over twenty years of, experience 1764 01:26:04.960 --> 01:26:07.600 family owned and, operated Call Courtland roofing today to get 1765 01:26:07.600 --> 01:26:10.600 a free rain gutter with any roof. 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Network in fifty five minutes 1776 01:26:42.439 --> 01:26:45.000 on the dot you will find out where The Utah 1777 01:26:45.079 --> 01:26:49.159 jazz are going to draft coming up this Year june twenty. 1778 01:26:49.199 --> 01:26:51.960 Fifth don't forget we're gonna have Great draft night. Coverage 1779 01:26:52.039 --> 01:26:55.520 it will be, Myself Gordy, chase And Richard. Smith we 1780 01:26:55.600 --> 01:26:58.600 may be out on, about out and about on. Location 1781 01:26:58.920 --> 01:27:00.960 you guys looking for a play to watch the first 1782 01:27:01.000 --> 01:27:04.279 round of the. Draft after our show here in the, 1783 01:27:04.279 --> 01:27:06.680 afternoon we're gonna head out and then do a live 1784 01:27:06.720 --> 01:27:08.960 show for the entire first round of the draft With 1785 01:27:09.039 --> 01:27:13.159 gordy And smitty a wealth of basketball. Knowledge Tony parks 1786 01:27:13.279 --> 01:27:16.239 is live in studio for another big. Segment all, RIGHT 1787 01:27:16.319 --> 01:27:20.720 tp tonight has a chance to be And i'm not being. 1788 01:27:20.760 --> 01:27:24.000 Hyperbolic as big as any moment that The Utah jazz 1789 01:27:24.079 --> 01:27:26.439 have ever, had as big as any moment this team 1790 01:27:26.479 --> 01:27:29.039 has ever. Had we know the deal The jazz have. 1791 01:27:29.079 --> 01:27:31.319 HAD i think this is their tenth lottery. Appearance they've 1792 01:27:31.319 --> 01:27:34.760 never moved. Up they've only moved up via. Trade they 1793 01:27:34.760 --> 01:27:38.439 traded up for D, will a couple of other options 1794 01:27:38.479 --> 01:27:41.439 at their disposal throughout the years where they've elected to move, 1795 01:27:41.520 --> 01:27:44.560 Up but they've never had the ping pong balls bounce 1796 01:27:44.640 --> 01:27:48.159 their way like we're all hoping that it will. Tonight 1797 01:27:48.239 --> 01:27:51.680 so should The jazz get number, One? Tony what does 1798 01:27:51.720 --> 01:27:54.680 that do for both the immediate future and long term 1799 01:27:54.720 --> 01:27:55.560 future of The Utah. 1800 01:27:55.640 --> 01:27:59.960 Jazz number one within its fan base creates a fever 1801 01:28:00.119 --> 01:28:03.760 pitch of energy that instead of this, teardown it's the 1802 01:28:03.800 --> 01:28:08.359 first step to moving up as an. Organization WHAT i 1803 01:28:08.479 --> 01:28:13.520 found amazing in The Quinn snyder era was that twenty fifteen, 1804 01:28:13.600 --> 01:28:16.760 season the first season Of, Snyder towards the end of the, 1805 01:28:16.840 --> 01:28:20.640 year the energy that was there with the team because 1806 01:28:20.640 --> 01:28:24.119 they were. Winning now they had an. Identity you had all. 1807 01:28:24.199 --> 01:28:26.000 That you AND i had a conversation last time we 1808 01:28:26.000 --> 01:28:27.399 were on the, Air it's, like what's the culture of the, 1809 01:28:27.479 --> 01:28:30.800 jazz what's the? Identity what's the when we say JAZZ, 1810 01:28:30.920 --> 01:28:35.399 Dna what does that mean? ANYMORE i, MEAN i would 1811 01:28:35.439 --> 01:28:36.920 love somebody to identify. It it's not. 1812 01:28:37.000 --> 01:28:39.760 Identifiable, yeah you, know you don't think they. KNOW i 1813 01:28:39.760 --> 01:28:40.920 think they're still learning about. 1814 01:28:40.920 --> 01:28:43.800 It and that's WHY i loved the extension for Will 1815 01:28:43.800 --> 01:28:46.680 hardy BECAUSE i, thought, man it's not just unfair to 1816 01:28:46.760 --> 01:28:49.479 this guy to have to slog through this and then 1817 01:28:49.560 --> 01:28:51.520 maybe not have the job when the fruits of the 1818 01:28:51.600 --> 01:28:53.720 labor come. AROUND i think he's proven the duke and. 1819 01:28:53.800 --> 01:28:56.079 Coach i've seen it behind the scenes with the work, 1820 01:28:56.079 --> 01:28:58.199 there with the G league and The stars and all. That, Like, 1821 01:28:58.319 --> 01:29:02.039 no they have a great system and a great culture 1822 01:29:02.039 --> 01:29:04.079 within what they do in order to. Win in THE, 1823 01:29:04.159 --> 01:29:08.279 nba sometimes teams lose and get bad before they become. 1824 01:29:08.279 --> 01:29:11.239 Great someday this would be great because now you get 1825 01:29:11.279 --> 01:29:13.800 the number one. Pick let's say It's cooper. Flag now 1826 01:29:13.880 --> 01:29:16.640 you know it's not, well let's go bottom out some. More, 1827 01:29:16.920 --> 01:29:21.239 no it's let's start to move in positive, directions BECAUSE 1828 01:29:21.239 --> 01:29:23.079 i don't think you would want to Get cooper flag and, 1829 01:29:23.079 --> 01:29:26.479 say now, listen we're gonna have some really bad habits 1830 01:29:26.479 --> 01:29:29.479 on purpose here for a little, while but we need 1831 01:29:29.520 --> 01:29:32.359 you to be the flag bear around. Here, no now 1832 01:29:32.399 --> 01:29:34.880 you got to, start you, know moving the positive. Direction 1833 01:29:35.199 --> 01:29:36.960 AND i think that would be great BECAUSE i think 1834 01:29:37.039 --> 01:29:39.119 jazz fans have been waiting for, that AND i think 1835 01:29:39.159 --> 01:29:41.720 they'd be excited to see that. Happen so that, that to, 1836 01:29:41.800 --> 01:29:45.039 me would be great because now there's a sign of 1837 01:29:45.279 --> 01:29:48.880 good news something they haven't really. Had because the moment 1838 01:29:48.880 --> 01:29:51.560 you have good, news a bunch of trades mid season bottom. 1839 01:29:51.600 --> 01:29:55.640 Out holy, Cow Cooper. Flag so THE nba DRAFT comba 1840 01:29:55.720 --> 01:29:57.920 and it was real That Cooper flag grew an inch 1841 01:29:58.039 --> 01:30:00.840 last year At. Duke, okay now here's WHY i bring it, 1842 01:30:00.920 --> 01:30:04.000 up AND i underscore this all the. Time he turned 1843 01:30:04.159 --> 01:30:08.920 eighteen In, december like this kid should have been a 1844 01:30:08.920 --> 01:30:14.279 senior in high. School he reclassified and then entered college 1845 01:30:14.319 --> 01:30:16.560 because he was ready to, play obviously at the highest of. 1846 01:30:16.680 --> 01:30:19.359 Levels like part of me Thought Richie saunders was going 1847 01:30:19.399 --> 01:30:22.800 to LEAVE byu because he's twenty. Three and if you 1848 01:30:22.840 --> 01:30:25.600 have an opportunity to be, drafted what you really want 1849 01:30:25.640 --> 01:30:29.199 to do is get to your second, contract third. CONTRACT i, mean, 1850 01:30:29.239 --> 01:30:31.600 hell if Your Chris paul gets your fifth because that's 1851 01:30:31.640 --> 01:30:34.840 when the generational wealth kicks in to your. Point you 1852 01:30:34.880 --> 01:30:37.079 know earlier About Cooper, flax so he is still so, 1853 01:30:37.319 --> 01:30:40.760 young but it feels like he has an opportunity to 1854 01:30:41.399 --> 01:30:44.439 be a difference maker right. Away we're hearing from a 1855 01:30:44.479 --> 01:30:48.880 couple of different. People shams was actually ON tv not 1856 01:30:48.960 --> 01:30:51.880 too long, ago and there's a clip going around where 1857 01:30:51.920 --> 01:30:54.840 he is reporting that if The jazz don't get, one 1858 01:30:55.439 --> 01:30:57.520 they're going to be as aggressive as they can to 1859 01:30:57.640 --> 01:31:01.319 trade up and get number. One what do you think 1860 01:31:01.359 --> 01:31:03.760 that looks? Like so let's say The. Jazz and by the, 1861 01:31:03.800 --> 01:31:06.159 WAY i do Like Dylan. Harper the MORE i Watch Dylan, 1862 01:31:06.159 --> 01:31:08.399 harper there's a little Kid cunningham, There, like that's a 1863 01:31:08.439 --> 01:31:12.000 big guard that you. Need And i'll Remind jazz FANS 1864 01:31:12.039 --> 01:31:13.479 i talk about this all the. Time if you want 1865 01:31:13.479 --> 01:31:15.680 to know what type of Players Danny ainge wants on his, 1866 01:31:15.720 --> 01:31:18.960 team watch The Boston celtics tonight And Jalen brown And 1867 01:31:19.000 --> 01:31:22.720 Jason tatum are the perfect archetype for what you need 1868 01:31:22.760 --> 01:31:26.000 in THE. Nba six' eight, sixty seven six eight big, body, 1869 01:31:26.039 --> 01:31:29.039 guys long can guard, multiple positions do a myriad of. 1870 01:31:29.039 --> 01:31:32.800 Different things dylan can. Do that but If the jazz 1871 01:31:32.880 --> 01:31:36.159 fall and there they don't get, number one but they 1872 01:31:36.239 --> 01:31:37.640 want to, Move up first, of all you have to 1873 01:31:37.680 --> 01:31:39.920 Have a william. Trade partner i'm NOT sure gm wants 1874 01:31:39.960 --> 01:31:42.880 to be the guy That trades. Cooper flag do you 1875 01:31:43.000 --> 01:31:45.880 throw five or six picks to the team that? Has 1876 01:31:45.960 --> 01:31:48.880 won do You, offer lowry do You? Offer, walker like 1877 01:31:48.920 --> 01:31:50.399 If the jazz want to move up, to one what 1878 01:31:50.399 --> 01:31:50.640 do you think? 1879 01:31:50.680 --> 01:31:52.239 It, looks, YEAH well i mean if you want to 1880 01:31:52.239 --> 01:31:53.800 move up, to one first, of all it depends on where. 1881 01:31:53.840 --> 01:31:57.479 You're at and second, of all the team that's holding 1882 01:31:57.479 --> 01:32:00.840 that number one knows what your bank account like in terms, of, 1883 01:32:00.840 --> 01:32:05.439 assets right so they can get, incredibly aggressive and, that 1884 01:32:05.640 --> 01:32:08.119 trade in, my opinion would not be finalized until the 1885 01:32:08.239 --> 01:32:09.279 day of. 1886 01:32:10.600 --> 01:32:12.840 The draft draft day. For, sure, yeah oh it would be. 1887 01:32:14.199 --> 01:32:17.159 The start so the constant conversation is should they? 1888 01:32:17.159 --> 01:32:17.760 Should they? Should? 1889 01:32:17.760 --> 01:32:20.319 THEY well i think the other one There with harper 1890 01:32:20.439 --> 01:32:23.159 back to your point on that great combo guard exactly 1891 01:32:23.159 --> 01:32:26.479 what you're. Talking about so if they GET too i 1892 01:32:26.520 --> 01:32:29.520 could very Well See danny, aims, SAYING look i still 1893 01:32:29.560 --> 01:32:31.720 get a lot OF what, i Want and i'll take 1894 01:32:31.760 --> 01:32:34.239 whichever one, you Don't and i'll hang on to all 1895 01:32:34.239 --> 01:32:36.760 these ASSETS because i need more than just one really 1896 01:32:36.800 --> 01:32:38.760 great player to turn this. 1897 01:32:38.840 --> 01:32:41.960 Thing Around so i'm not going to break the bank for. 1898 01:32:42.159 --> 01:32:45.760 One guy uh going forward with this because if you look, at, 1899 01:32:45.760 --> 01:32:47.920 it yeah with the four years and not a lot 1900 01:32:47.960 --> 01:32:50.399 happening in the process that he had There, with boston 1901 01:32:50.720 --> 01:32:53.079 then eventually you Get those keith number three picks, that 1902 01:32:53.159 --> 01:32:56.119 blossomed and eventually this whole entire thing turned into a 1903 01:32:56.159 --> 01:32:57.640 twelve year process which landed to. 1904 01:32:57.680 --> 01:32:59.680 A championship so with that. 1905 01:32:59.560 --> 01:33:02.960 BEING said i could very much see them staying. At 1906 01:33:02.960 --> 01:33:06.399 two but let's say, something, tragic habbag you're three. Or 1907 01:33:06.560 --> 01:33:09.000 four they want to, get up they want. TO spend 1908 01:33:09.239 --> 01:33:12.399 i think that they would explore with a particular budget 1909 01:33:12.439 --> 01:33:14.439 what it takes to. Get there but this Is, Where 1910 01:33:14.520 --> 01:33:17.439 danny so you did the first part to get all. 1911 01:33:17.479 --> 01:33:20.640 These assets you did the first part to go through the. 1912 01:33:20.680 --> 01:33:25.119 Pain tolerance now you have to become really good at this, 1913 01:33:25.399 --> 01:33:28.319 next phase which he's been able to show that he 1914 01:33:28.359 --> 01:33:31.399 can to get the right guy and to spend and 1915 01:33:31.439 --> 01:33:34.000 do what it takes to get. That guy, so yeah 1916 01:33:34.039 --> 01:33:35.880 he's going to explore all. Of it what does it 1917 01:33:35.920 --> 01:33:37.920 look Like if i'm the number, One team, i'm LIKE 1918 01:33:38.000 --> 01:33:40.760 well i, want, this, this this, This that and then 1919 01:33:40.760 --> 01:33:43.159 if you're the number, one team you got to get Serious, 1920 01:33:43.159 --> 01:33:46.479 about okay well WHAT would i be willing to? 1921 01:33:46.479 --> 01:33:49.000 Settle for that's what makes this. Game, Fun yeah and 1922 01:33:49.039 --> 01:33:52.520 to your point about not being one great, player away, 1923 01:33:52.680 --> 01:33:56.680 m dude they're three or four. Great players Like When. 1924 01:33:56.800 --> 01:33:59.720 OKLAHOMA city i think the final home game For the 1925 01:33:59.760 --> 01:34:02.399 jet this YEAR, was okac AND so i just made 1926 01:34:02.439 --> 01:34:04.359 it a point like just get. Down there, you know 1927 01:34:04.399 --> 01:34:07.000 it's the final. Home game go say hello to, some people, 1928 01:34:07.920 --> 01:34:10.000 you know Go final jazz. HOME game I think i 1929 01:34:10.039 --> 01:34:12.399 went to ten, this year and YOU, and i once upon, 1930 01:34:12.439 --> 01:34:15.039 a time we're at that building way, too much. You, 1931 01:34:15.079 --> 01:34:17.359 know so SO whatever i think, ABOUT that I do 1932 01:34:17.359 --> 01:34:17.760 i want to go to. 1933 01:34:17.800 --> 01:34:18.079 THE game i. 1934 01:34:18.079 --> 01:34:19.600 DON'T know i Feel like i've been to. Enough GAMES 1935 01:34:19.640 --> 01:34:22.960 but i went down TO. Watch Okac scott layden was, in, 1936 01:34:23.000 --> 01:34:24.880 town yeah AND so i was able to Sit with 1937 01:34:24.920 --> 01:34:30.479 Scott and smitty and WE. Watched. Okc tony they've got 1938 01:34:30.960 --> 01:34:35.159 twelve guys that can play at, a high. High Level 1939 01:34:35.600 --> 01:34:38.000 so I'M watching Okc, in denver and you, know this 1940 01:34:38.279 --> 01:34:40.119 like if you're a sports sococ radio Host In Salt, 1941 01:34:40.159 --> 01:34:41.840 lake city you've got to bring it back around for 1942 01:34:41.920 --> 01:34:44.800 the local stuff. At TIMES so i always watched, the 1943 01:34:44.920 --> 01:34:46.920 prison like what does this mean For. The jazz i'm 1944 01:34:46.920 --> 01:34:50.039 Analyzing the jazz against, These teams, And yes i'm analyzing 1945 01:34:50.079 --> 01:34:51.960 them against the best team In the west and one 1946 01:34:51.960 --> 01:34:53.479 of the top two or three teams in. The league 1947 01:34:53.520 --> 01:34:55.239 but THAT'S how i do. THIS job i want to 1948 01:34:55.319 --> 01:34:58.760 hold our local teams, to high. High standards AND when, 1949 01:34:58.800 --> 01:35:01.359 i watch it's not just the top. End guys it's 1950 01:35:01.399 --> 01:35:05.000 Not just Shay and Jalen. And chat they've got eleven 1951 01:35:05.079 --> 01:35:08.399 twelve high quality rotational Pieces That mark dagnel can go 1952 01:35:08.439 --> 01:35:11.079 to at. All times so when you Analyze the jazz 1953 01:35:11.119 --> 01:35:14.880 next to a team, like that they're a marathon away 1954 01:35:14.920 --> 01:35:16.920 from throwing punch INTO the. Okc consistently. 1955 01:35:17.000 --> 01:35:19.079 Oh absolutely and on top of, That too THAT'S why, 1956 01:35:19.119 --> 01:35:21.520 i say if they were to land, at two not the. 1957 01:35:21.520 --> 01:35:24.800 Biggest tragedy you hope they, get one but two is 1958 01:35:24.840 --> 01:35:27.720 also a. Great spot you get a terrific player in 1959 01:35:27.800 --> 01:35:31.359 this process is, you know a much longer road than 1960 01:35:31.399 --> 01:35:33.439 people would want it to be because next year now 1961 01:35:33.560 --> 01:35:35.640 you may have a ton of, the losing but at 1962 01:35:35.680 --> 01:35:39.840 least you're building towards, quality culture a young player to, 1963 01:35:39.880 --> 01:35:42.800 build around and then also looking to the forward to 1964 01:35:42.880 --> 01:35:46.079 now get more like, minded players more like, bodied players if, 1965 01:35:46.119 --> 01:35:48.439 you will like the type Of Player danny angels. 1966 01:35:48.479 --> 01:35:51.079 Looking for, so yes they're more than just one. 1967 01:35:51.079 --> 01:35:54.000 Guy away that's why if they were say two in 1968 01:35:54.119 --> 01:35:56.119 late they move up, TO one i would want them 1969 01:35:56.119 --> 01:35:59.199 spending very little to make. That happen but if a 1970 01:35:59.239 --> 01:36:01.680 tragedy happens that you dropped to something like, you know 1971 01:36:01.760 --> 01:36:05.439 you dropped to you drop, to three or that would 1972 01:36:05.439 --> 01:36:05.920 shock me a. 1973 01:36:05.960 --> 01:36:08.399 LITTLE bit i would be disappointed to see. That happen 1974 01:36:08.800 --> 01:36:13.960 i'll tell you what, you know it feels like your 1975 01:36:14.000 --> 01:36:17.840 point about and we'll just operate off. A, hypothetical okay 1976 01:36:17.880 --> 01:36:19.279 and there's no way of knowing that this is going. 1977 01:36:19.319 --> 01:36:22.039 To happen we'll know in about forty. Five minutes but 1978 01:36:22.119 --> 01:36:24.720 let's operate off the Hypothetical That lady luck shines on 1979 01:36:24.760 --> 01:36:27.439 the jazz tonight for the. First time number one belongs 1980 01:36:27.479 --> 01:36:30.880 To The. Utah jazz cooper flag is. THE pick i 1981 01:36:31.279 --> 01:36:33.560 just feel like part of, the frustration, and look we're 1982 01:36:33.560 --> 01:36:36.199 all on our own, echo, chamber right we all have 1983 01:36:36.279 --> 01:36:39.720 our own. COGNITIVE dissidance i talked to my friends that are, 1984 01:36:39.760 --> 01:36:42.960 jazz FANS and i interact with jazz fans who, you 1985 01:36:43.000 --> 01:36:45.439 know ask me questions online. Or Whatever so i'm not 1986 01:36:45.479 --> 01:36:47.159 Saying that i'm here to speak for the entire, fan 1987 01:36:47.199 --> 01:36:49.960 BASE but i think one of the pieces of frustration 1988 01:36:50.039 --> 01:36:52.239 over the past few years IS what i perceived to 1989 01:36:52.239 --> 01:36:55.840 be a very. Clunky rebuild, and yes they tried to 1990 01:36:55.880 --> 01:36:58.399 send some propaganda message through some media, like hey well 1991 01:36:58.439 --> 01:37:00.600 it's not. A rebuild it was. A teardown now we're ready. 1992 01:37:00.600 --> 01:37:02.760 To rebuild, i'm, like dude that's not how, that works but. Thank, 1993 01:37:02.760 --> 01:37:07.880 You anyway so it's. Been clunky they started out and 1994 01:37:07.920 --> 01:37:10.720 they were Better in will's first YEAR than i think. 1995 01:37:10.760 --> 01:37:14.239 They anticipated they Wait until february to break, it down 1996 01:37:14.239 --> 01:37:17.119 which is, too late and they do the same thing the. 1997 01:37:17.159 --> 01:37:20.119 Next year, And look i'm SORRY because i would talk 1998 01:37:20.159 --> 01:37:22.520 to some people with the jazz and they would say to, me, 1999 01:37:22.640 --> 01:37:25.560 like well we were we thought we, were tanking but 2000 01:37:25.640 --> 01:37:28.760 our coach is. Too GOOD and, i said who Coaches? 2001 01:37:28.800 --> 01:37:33.000 The spurs what are you? Talking, ABOUT like i perceive 2002 01:37:33.079 --> 01:37:36.760 it to be a clunky process through. Three YEARS but 2003 01:37:36.880 --> 01:37:40.800 i think as a, fan base all you want is 2004 01:37:41.199 --> 01:37:45.079 best foot forward and something to. Latch, onto yeah and 2005 01:37:45.239 --> 01:37:48.640 up until, THIS point I think lowry was really special, 2006 01:37:48.720 --> 01:37:50.760 year one but he was also playing with some grown 2007 01:37:50.840 --> 01:37:54.760 Ups Like mike Conley And, kelly olynnok and that's guys 2008 01:37:54.840 --> 01:37:58.279 that not. To win and ever since those players, Were 2009 01:37:58.319 --> 01:38:01.239 jettisoned lowry's playing with kids who don't know how. To 2010 01:38:01.239 --> 01:38:04.680 win and so What does lowry marketing look like when 2011 01:38:04.720 --> 01:38:07.279 this team is. GOOD again i think there's a lot 2012 01:38:07.279 --> 01:38:09.920 to Like, about walker but it's a group of players 2013 01:38:09.960 --> 01:38:12.399 THAT really i think there are a lot of. Questions 2014 01:38:12.439 --> 01:38:15.279 about and so if you Can land, cooper flag even 2015 01:38:15.319 --> 01:38:18.319 if next year is more pain tolerance to the, fan 2016 01:38:18.399 --> 01:38:21.920 base that at least gives them something, To, say okay 2017 01:38:21.960 --> 01:38:24.239 we got, something, here yes and we can be patient 2018 01:38:24.239 --> 01:38:26.399 because we have. Something here but up until, this point 2019 01:38:26.560 --> 01:38:27.800 there just hasn't been a lot to. Latch. 2020 01:38:27.840 --> 01:38:29.800 Onto well the weirdest thing about the early part of 2021 01:38:29.840 --> 01:38:32.239 IT is i kept saying do it? Or, don't right 2022 01:38:32.399 --> 01:38:34.720 like do it? Or, Don't, yep well now you're better 2023 01:38:34.760 --> 01:38:35.880 than you thought you were going, To be like. You 2024 01:38:35.920 --> 01:38:37.720 said it was late that they flushed it out and 2025 01:38:37.720 --> 01:38:40.199 then bottomed out and tried to kind of sort it 2026 01:38:40.239 --> 01:38:42.520 to IT and, i thought, all, RIGHT well i can't 2027 01:38:42.560 --> 01:38:44.159 tell if that's what you were trying to do to 2028 01:38:44.199 --> 01:38:46.680 begin with. Or not at least this past year they were, 2029 01:38:46.720 --> 01:38:48.479 finally like, oh ah we're going for the number. One, 2030 01:38:48.479 --> 01:38:50.680 pick right you can clearly see. It there now there 2031 01:38:50.720 --> 01:38:53.680 was clarity. Going forward you get the number, one pick 2032 01:38:53.840 --> 01:38:56.800 let's Say it's. Cooper flag whatever, it is it Can't be. 2033 01:38:56.960 --> 01:39:01.840 Cooper flag and culture is still kind of not. Really, 2034 01:39:01.920 --> 01:39:07.119 UNDERSTOOD no i want accountability for bad defensive. Principles, HISTORY 2035 01:39:07.720 --> 01:39:12.319 yeah i don't want bad, defensive PRINCIPLES but i don't 2036 01:39:12.359 --> 01:39:13.239 really know what to do. 2037 01:39:13.319 --> 01:39:14.319 About, it, no, no, no no. 2038 01:39:14.319 --> 01:39:16.279 No no And for will and that's sake to have 2039 01:39:16.359 --> 01:39:19.800 that much going forward with the years on his, CONTRACT 2040 01:39:19.840 --> 01:39:22.600 now I think i'm excited for him to be able to, 2041 01:39:22.600 --> 01:39:25.439 have THAT like i, DON'T care i won't, play You 2042 01:39:25.479 --> 01:39:28.680 and i'll play somebody who, you Know Like quinn snyder 2043 01:39:29.159 --> 01:39:30.920 was to the point where it, was, Like yeah i'll. 2044 01:39:30.760 --> 01:39:32.239 Play This rudy gobert guy INSTEAD. 2045 01:39:32.239 --> 01:39:32.439 Of U. 2046 01:39:32.520 --> 01:39:35.000 NIS canner i know you were the, third PICK and 2047 01:39:35.079 --> 01:39:37.720 i Know That rudy gobert's got to stop. Offensive, goaltending 2048 01:39:37.720 --> 01:39:40.159 well we'll get, to it we'll. Get there but the 2049 01:39:40.159 --> 01:39:42.399 big thing was there. Was accountability so When the jazz 2050 01:39:42.479 --> 01:39:44.720 lost nine games in, A row i'm in that locker 2051 01:39:44.840 --> 01:39:48.479 Room in December and i'm looking at confidence coming from 2052 01:39:48.479 --> 01:39:51.159 Guys Like gordon hayward at the TIME and I and 2053 01:39:51.199 --> 01:39:53.159 i by NO means i know that group wasn't gonna 2054 01:39:53.159 --> 01:39:53.600 hoist Up the. 2055 01:39:53.680 --> 01:39:55.279 Larry O'Briant but here's what. 2056 01:39:55.319 --> 01:39:57.439 Was HAPPENING and i kept talking with you during, postgame 2057 01:39:57.479 --> 01:40:01.760 shows going there is, now clarity there, is direction there's 2058 01:40:01.840 --> 01:40:03.520 forward understanding and expectation. 2059 01:40:03.720 --> 01:40:03.840 Of. 2060 01:40:04.319 --> 01:40:08.479 CULTURE now i don't see that the last three years With, 2061 01:40:08.600 --> 01:40:10.800 The jazz so, going forward it can't, be Well there's 2062 01:40:10.840 --> 01:40:13.399 cooper flag and we're, still bottoming, and, no no. YOU'RE 2063 01:40:13.439 --> 01:40:16.960 not i don't care if it's the Equivalent Of jack 2064 01:40:17.039 --> 01:40:21.279 cooley playing for. SOMEBODY else i don't care if you've 2065 01:40:21.279 --> 01:40:24.520 got some g league hopeful that. Steps in but when 2066 01:40:24.560 --> 01:40:26.960 there's a standard of accountability that has to be, there 2067 01:40:27.039 --> 01:40:29.800 now that has to be. There now So, BECAUSE cooper, 2068 01:40:29.840 --> 01:40:32.119 i think let's Say it's Cooper, or dylan whatever, it 2069 01:40:32.199 --> 01:40:35.880 is they need to be developed in that environment and no. 2070 01:40:36.000 --> 01:40:39.319 Other environment and whatever that cost you in the, immediate, 2071 01:40:39.319 --> 01:40:41.960 future fine but that's going to pay. Off later and 2072 01:40:42.000 --> 01:40:44.760 if that lands you another number one or number, two, 2073 01:40:44.800 --> 01:40:48.000 Pick okay and if that lands you forty wins and 2074 01:40:48.079 --> 01:40:50.079 you're kind of in. The middle you've got all these 2075 01:40:50.079 --> 01:40:53.199 picks and assets going forward to make with the abilities 2076 01:40:53.520 --> 01:40:55.199 to get what. You need and by, THE way i 2077 01:40:55.279 --> 01:40:57.359 believe they've had the. Right coach i'm not just. Saying 2078 01:40:57.399 --> 01:40:59.560 it i've believed they've had the right coach who was 2079 01:40:59.640 --> 01:41:02.000 over achieved with a team that was not supposed to 2080 01:41:02.039 --> 01:41:04.199 do what. It DID and i think now once you 2081 01:41:04.279 --> 01:41:06.720 get some dudes who are in the, right mindset culture 2082 01:41:06.800 --> 01:41:09.760 and what he wants, to build combined with top, level 2083 01:41:09.760 --> 01:41:11.159 talent now you're going to. 2084 01:41:11.159 --> 01:41:13.560 Start to see. Special, stuff yeah but there needs to. 2085 01:41:13.560 --> 01:41:16.439 Be, alignment sorry there's no clarity and alignment going forward 2086 01:41:16.600 --> 01:41:17.840 on accountability and. 2087 01:41:17.880 --> 01:41:21.079 Cultural expectation so just so the listeners are kind of 2088 01:41:21.119 --> 01:41:23.720 tapped into what tonight. Could entail so It's, the Jazz, 2089 01:41:23.800 --> 01:41:26.479 the wizards And the hornets all have a fourteen percent 2090 01:41:26.600 --> 01:41:29.359 chance of landing the number. One Pick the pelicans have 2091 01:41:29.399 --> 01:41:32.600 a twelve point five Percent chance philly actually has a 2092 01:41:32.640 --> 01:41:35.640 ten point five. Percent chance this is the second year 2093 01:41:35.640 --> 01:41:37.800 in a Row the wizards have the highest odds to 2094 01:41:37.840 --> 01:41:41.319 land the number. One pick atlanta had a three point 2095 01:41:41.359 --> 01:41:43.880 five percent chance of moving to one, last year which 2096 01:41:43.920 --> 01:41:48.159 they did And Drafted, zachary reschachet who. Looked okay last 2097 01:41:48.199 --> 01:41:49.800 year was not the year to have the number one. 2098 01:41:49.800 --> 01:41:52.399 Overall pick the last time with the team with the 2099 01:41:52.399 --> 01:41:54.840 worst record in the league to have the number one pick, 2100 01:41:54.880 --> 01:41:58.520 twenty Eighteen The. Phoenix suns ever since the lot, excuse 2101 01:41:58.560 --> 01:42:01.520 me the lottery odds were flattened in, twenty nineteen the 2102 01:42:01.600 --> 01:42:03.520 worst team has not had the number one. Overall Pick 2103 01:42:03.520 --> 01:42:06.119 the jazz are one of six franchises that have never 2104 01:42:06.199 --> 01:42:09.600 landed the number one. Overall pick so. WE'LL see, i 2105 01:42:09.600 --> 01:42:12.399 mean this is A lottery and to, Your, POINT tony 2106 01:42:12.960 --> 01:42:15.439 i feel confident SAYING like I Think justin zanik has 2107 01:42:15.520 --> 01:42:19.199 dynamite at. His job And as i've said a, Million 2108 01:42:19.279 --> 01:42:22.439 Times danny ainge doesn't need me to stand up. For 2109 01:42:22.520 --> 01:42:25.000 him the proof Is what danny has done in, his career, 2110 01:42:25.079 --> 01:42:28.279 quite frankly at. Every level like when you Consider what 2111 01:42:28.520 --> 01:42:33.039 danny has done IN the, nba ecosystem, championship player high, 2112 01:42:33.119 --> 01:42:37.439 level coach. Great broadcaster People forget danny was AWESOME on 2113 01:42:37.520 --> 01:42:40.720 tv and now a roster constructor that he Did in 2114 01:42:40.760 --> 01:42:44.479 boston for basically. Twenty years the list of guys in 2115 01:42:44.560 --> 01:42:47.520 league history that have The Resume danny, ainge has it might. 2116 01:42:47.520 --> 01:42:50.840 Be Three, it's Danny It's, jerry west and It's. Pat 2117 01:42:50.920 --> 01:42:52.439 riley that might be. 2118 01:42:52.520 --> 01:42:52.600 The. 2119 01:42:52.640 --> 01:42:55.720 List man so like You've, got zanik You've, Got age 2120 01:42:56.159 --> 01:42:58.359 you've got an ownership group that has shown that they're 2121 01:42:58.399 --> 01:43:00.439 willing to write checks when the team. Is good ryan 2122 01:43:00.520 --> 01:43:02.199 went with the, luxury Tax which i'll give them a 2123 01:43:02.199 --> 01:43:05.000 lot of. Credit FOR and i do agree with YOU 2124 01:43:05.039 --> 01:43:09.039 that I think will can. Really coach Here's where here's 2125 01:43:09.079 --> 01:43:11.680 Where where i'll. Push back so postseason media, this year 2126 01:43:12.920 --> 01:43:16.359 It was xanik and It. Was will and to your 2127 01:43:16.359 --> 01:43:22.479 point about the underwhelming defensive performance a like historically bad 2128 01:43:22.560 --> 01:43:25.439 for two. Straight years so if you're going to tell 2129 01:43:25.479 --> 01:43:27.840 me that you love the talent in your, locker room 2130 01:43:28.319 --> 01:43:30.119 you got to tell me why the defense has been, 2131 01:43:30.159 --> 01:43:33.560 this pathetic and you've got to tell like IF it's 2132 01:43:34.199 --> 01:43:36.399 i think it's a. Talent, Issue right SO when I 2133 01:43:36.439 --> 01:43:39.199 hear Zanik and will postseason, media, say man we got 2134 01:43:39.199 --> 01:43:42.199 a ton of talent in this. Locker room my initial, reaction, 2135 01:43:42.279 --> 01:43:45.560 is no you, don't, Liar right but if you, believe 2136 01:43:45.600 --> 01:43:49.800 that then what does that say about the schematics and 2137 01:43:49.840 --> 01:43:54.680 the concepts, and coaching, BECAUSE look I watch i still 2138 01:43:54.760 --> 01:43:56.680 Watch every. Jazz GAME like, I said i went to 2139 01:43:56.720 --> 01:43:59.279 a grip. THIS year i saw a lot of lazy. 2140 01:43:59.319 --> 01:44:01.319 Defensive EFFORT so i saw a lot of players out. 2141 01:44:01.319 --> 01:44:03.800 OF place i saw a lot of players just not 2142 01:44:03.920 --> 01:44:06.279 looking like they were comfortable with any sort of defensive 2143 01:44:06.279 --> 01:44:08.720 concept or principal. Putting it so is it a talent 2144 01:44:08.800 --> 01:44:10.720 thing or is it a? COACHING thing i think only time. 2145 01:44:10.720 --> 01:44:12.279 WILL tell i think it's A, talent oh it's a. 2146 01:44:12.319 --> 01:44:14.439 Talent thing, i'm SORRY but i watched. 2147 01:44:14.560 --> 01:44:17.560 THAT defense i had a game Against The, memphis GRIZZLIES 2148 01:44:17.560 --> 01:44:18.880 and i went and sat THERE and i thought the 2149 01:44:18.880 --> 01:44:21.560 first half effort was. PRETTY good i mean it was 2150 01:44:21.600 --> 01:44:23.680 a pretty. Good game that third quarter of the defense 2151 01:44:23.720 --> 01:44:26.399 wasn't worth a. FOOD stamp i mean it was. Absolutely 2152 01:44:26.439 --> 01:44:31.359 atrocious and you could see that it was okay for 2153 01:44:31.439 --> 01:44:33.600 the defense to be that bad because when it, got 2154 01:44:33.600 --> 01:44:33.960 bad it. 2155 01:44:34.000 --> 01:44:35.399 Got worse and then when it. 2156 01:44:35.439 --> 01:44:38.800 Got WORSE then i go over the rope and there 2157 01:44:38.880 --> 01:44:40.920 was a feel about that group that this was not 2158 01:44:40.960 --> 01:44:43.359 a one, time Thing and i'd watched them enough to know. 2159 01:44:43.399 --> 01:44:46.119 That TOO and i sat THERE and, i, thought man, 2160 01:44:47.720 --> 01:44:49.800 Oh man i've been in. This arena that was the 2161 01:44:49.800 --> 01:44:51.880 first Jazz game i've been to, in years and Living 2162 01:44:51.920 --> 01:44:54.520 in chicago during, off seasons and we were coming back 2163 01:44:54.520 --> 01:44:57.439 BECAUSE the b season was about to, get started and 2164 01:44:57.520 --> 01:44:59.720 it had been a little WHILE since i had been in, 2165 01:44:59.720 --> 01:45:02.560 the ARENA and i remember, sitting there had a nice 2166 01:45:02.600 --> 01:45:06.279 seat to. The game you ever remember that scene in 2167 01:45:06.359 --> 01:45:09.039 the movie is the most random movie. Poll ever my 2168 01:45:09.119 --> 01:45:11.239 wife watches every movie And so i'll go to the 2169 01:45:11.239 --> 01:45:12.720 Theaters and Age. 2170 01:45:12.760 --> 01:45:13.800 Of adeline you ever? Seen? 2171 01:45:13.840 --> 01:45:19.159 That Anyway, Blake Lively blake lively is the main character in. 2172 01:45:19.199 --> 01:45:21.199 This movie and she's on this date where this guy's 2173 01:45:21.239 --> 01:45:24.640 making dinner for and, he said how's the food, or 2174 01:45:24.680 --> 01:45:25.840 whatever and she, was, like. 2175 01:45:25.920 --> 01:45:29.199 Oh wonderful the opposite of. This music and, he goes 2176 01:45:30.359 --> 01:45:33.079 you don't, like jazz and, she, GOES no i. Like 2177 01:45:33.199 --> 01:45:34.560 jazz this is. 2178 01:45:34.600 --> 01:45:38.640 Something different and that's THE way i Felt sitting i'm 2179 01:45:38.680 --> 01:45:40.279 just being straight out of this Stair man i'm not 2180 01:45:40.319 --> 01:45:42.960 trying to, be harsh but this was the most, different 2181 01:45:43.000 --> 01:45:47.119 thing the feel in, the arena every ounce, of IT 2182 01:45:47.439 --> 01:45:50.359 and i, remember, THINKING man i can't wait until we 2183 01:45:50.439 --> 01:45:55.359 get this thing back someday to be what this. Community 2184 01:45:55.439 --> 01:45:58.000 Expects and i'm not saying the approach to trade those 2185 01:45:58.000 --> 01:46:00.880 guys and bottom out, And build i'm not. Saying that i'm, just, 2186 01:46:00.920 --> 01:46:05.640 SAYING man i have never felt like this sitting in. 2187 01:46:05.680 --> 01:46:07.359 This arena and YOU and i were part Of A 2188 01:46:07.439 --> 01:46:11.920 jamal Tinsley Team jay. Tims distress every. 2189 01:46:11.760 --> 01:46:12.399 Time we went Home. 2190 01:46:12.439 --> 01:46:15.319 To brooklyn we were, just like we're just, looking around 2191 01:46:15.520 --> 01:46:17.760 but like there were, bad teams but, you're, like okay 2192 01:46:18.079 --> 01:46:19.640 but you can see where they want. TO go i 2193 01:46:20.239 --> 01:46:23.600 sat there in that, arena, THINKING man i think this coach. 2194 01:46:23.640 --> 01:46:26.920 Can coach there's a LOT that, I LIKE but whoa was? 2195 01:46:27.000 --> 01:46:29.159 That bad, you know it's interesting you bring, that up 2196 01:46:29.199 --> 01:46:31.520 because Here's what i've been and maybe you've heard me 2197 01:46:31.560 --> 01:46:34.640 say this and maybe we've talked, about it because the 2198 01:46:34.680 --> 01:46:38.239 fact of the, matter is jazz fans. Are awesome they do. 2199 01:46:38.319 --> 01:46:41.359 Show up and Every time i've been in that building 2200 01:46:42.199 --> 01:46:45.239 throughout this, entire process more often, than not The crowd, 2201 01:46:46.119 --> 01:46:49.520 UH so i guess THE way i, put it the crowd, 2202 01:46:49.600 --> 01:46:53.600 is present people are in. Their, seats yeah people, show 2203 01:46:53.680 --> 01:46:55.760 up but it does not feel like if you were 2204 01:46:55.840 --> 01:47:01.840 in the building When That Donovan rubio joe ingles when They. 2205 01:47:01.840 --> 01:47:07.000 Beat okac what was that twenty. Eighteen nineteen that's the 2206 01:47:07.039 --> 01:47:09.000 first TIME that i had heard it like that in. 2207 01:47:09.000 --> 01:47:11.560 A while but it felt like that During The Peak booze. 2208 01:47:11.600 --> 01:47:14.760 Darren years the nineties obviously. WERE insane i WAS a 2209 01:47:14.800 --> 01:47:16.760 pr intern in ninety seven ninety Eight for Day OF, 2210 01:47:16.760 --> 01:47:20.239 all RD so i was in. The building, so yes 2211 01:47:20.399 --> 01:47:24.279 the crowd, is there but it doesn't sound or feel 2212 01:47:24.319 --> 01:47:26.720 the way it does when Like peak jazz are playing 2213 01:47:26.760 --> 01:47:32.000 big games in. The spring this is a unique fan 2214 01:47:32.199 --> 01:47:35.800 situation When the jazz are really good and when it's 2215 01:47:35.800 --> 01:47:38.279 in the spring and its playoffs and they're winning playoff 2216 01:47:38.319 --> 01:47:40.840 games at. Home there i'll put that building up with 2217 01:47:40.880 --> 01:47:42.720 any Building. In america with the. 2218 01:47:42.680 --> 01:47:45.039 Noise level, you know IT was, i willing just the 2219 01:47:45.159 --> 01:47:49.119 energy that that deep roar with the. Defense, change yeah, 2220 01:47:49.199 --> 01:47:52.119 every deflection the way that the crowd. WILL rise i 2221 01:47:52.159 --> 01:47:54.560 Mean the favors hits the jumper to put them up five. 2222 01:47:54.600 --> 01:47:55.760 That, night, uh huh. 2223 01:47:55.680 --> 01:47:57.760 Because you could feel the tension with the lead going, 2224 01:47:57.800 --> 01:48:01.399 away yep And maybe donovan might be injured, or, No 2225 01:48:01.560 --> 01:48:03.960 uh rubio with the hamstring and, you're going oh, my 2226 01:48:04.039 --> 01:48:06.520 Gosh and favors HITS the ja to put him up 2227 01:48:06.520 --> 01:48:09.960 five and the electric reaction to that bucket. 2228 01:48:10.000 --> 01:48:11.680 GOING in i, don't, know man stuff. Like that the 2229 01:48:11.720 --> 01:48:12.199 only thing. 2230 01:48:12.119 --> 01:48:14.760 That saved that NIGHT when i was There Was devin 2231 01:48:14.840 --> 01:48:16.920 hester came out to THROW out t shirts and that 2232 01:48:17.439 --> 01:48:20.880 the most random good and it was right in front, 2233 01:48:20.920 --> 01:48:24.479 of us and my wife went absolutely the daughter Wearing 2234 01:48:24.479 --> 01:48:25.680 A chicago girls. 2235 01:48:25.439 --> 01:48:26.039 SHIRT and i. 2236 01:48:26.079 --> 01:48:29.520 Mean that my wife, was, like yeah this is nice 2237 01:48:29.560 --> 01:48:32.119 and she went from zero to one hundred with fever. 2238 01:48:32.199 --> 01:48:33.960 Pitch. Excitement yeah but like that was. 2239 01:48:33.960 --> 01:48:36.520 The only thing to save the night because the first 2240 01:48:36.520 --> 01:48:37.960 half was Great and, i'm thinking we got a. Good 2241 01:48:38.000 --> 01:48:40.760 game let's go watch this GREAT entertaining. Nba game and 2242 01:48:40.840 --> 01:48:41.600 the next half. 2243 01:48:41.840 --> 01:48:43.840 Was vomit and it wasn't. 2244 01:48:43.600 --> 01:48:46.000 The exception it was the rule and you could. Feel 2245 01:48:46.000 --> 01:48:48.479 it and to, that point the feeling in the arena, was. 2246 01:48:48.720 --> 01:48:52.199 Yes kind of out goes yes kind of how. 2247 01:48:52.199 --> 01:48:56.319 It is it, wasn't oh there's a, talent gap but, there's, 2248 01:48:56.359 --> 01:48:57.920 this this and then, oh no it's just there's a 2249 01:48:57.960 --> 01:49:01.880 talent gap and it's no. Direction EITHER and i had 2250 01:49:01.920 --> 01:49:04.439 never felt that in, that ARENA and i never knew 2251 01:49:04.439 --> 01:49:04.680 what that. 2252 01:49:04.760 --> 01:49:07.359 Felt, like yeah you Was a, knicks fan probably felt 2253 01:49:07.600 --> 01:49:10.399 unfortunately tonight might be the biggest game the next have 2254 01:49:10.439 --> 01:49:14.840 PLAYED at msg since nineteen. Ninety nine that's fair game 2255 01:49:14.960 --> 01:49:17.199 seven last Year against indiana in the. Second round but 2256 01:49:17.239 --> 01:49:20.720 they got their doors blown off By. The pacers but 2257 01:49:20.800 --> 01:49:23.720 That okayc, jazz series it had so many like shocking 2258 01:49:23.880 --> 01:49:28.560 Subplots where rubio Just Outplayed russell Westbrook And joe Ingles 2259 01:49:28.760 --> 01:49:32.640 Shut paul george's, water, off dude and nobody saw, that. 2260 01:49:32.800 --> 01:49:36.399 Coming right that was Like The joe ingles introduction into 2261 01:49:36.439 --> 01:49:40.520 LIKE the nba ecosystem Nationally Because paul george cannot do Anything, 2262 01:49:40.560 --> 01:49:43.479 on ingles which, was, WILD right i, don't, know, Man. 2263 01:49:43.439 --> 01:49:47.439 Well and you felt like, Your Coaching, quinn snyder was the. 2264 01:49:47.479 --> 01:49:50.399 Difference Maker, m like all of, a sudden you shouldn't 2265 01:49:50.439 --> 01:49:52.399 be the. Better team you're not the. Better team you're 2266 01:49:52.439 --> 01:49:54.319 even a, little injured, and right you get all. This 2267 01:49:54.359 --> 01:49:57.079 happened but you got this young budding star and there 2268 01:49:57.079 --> 01:49:58.119 was so much to like about. 2269 01:49:58.119 --> 01:49:59.920 This team that was kind, Of, like hey who are? 2270 01:50:00.159 --> 01:50:01.960 These guys, you know it was a year After The. 2271 01:50:02.000 --> 01:50:04.800 GORDON hayward, i mean there was something. About THAT and 2272 01:50:04.880 --> 01:50:06.960 i was around that Team In. OKLAHOMA city i was 2273 01:50:07.000 --> 01:50:10.840 around that Team In salt lake and that whole. Entire, 2274 01:50:10.880 --> 01:50:13.720 thing Yeah The paul, george Thing The russell, westbrook thing 2275 01:50:14.479 --> 01:50:15.039 And then. 2276 01:50:15.079 --> 01:50:18.560 DONOVAN being I. Mean donovan. THAT was, i mean that 2277 01:50:18.800 --> 01:50:22.039 was the first TIME that i had heard FROM people 2278 01:50:22.079 --> 01:50:24.920 i know around the League about mitchell watching that, playoff, 2279 01:50:25.000 --> 01:50:25.760 Series Right. 2280 01:50:25.680 --> 01:50:28.199 Russell, WESTBROOK sayman i almost shut. That, down nope and 2281 01:50:28.199 --> 01:50:29.640 then coming right out and it got. 2282 01:50:29.640 --> 01:50:33.119 Worse yea And watching donovan be the primary go to 2283 01:50:33.399 --> 01:50:36.439 player in the playoffs as. A rookie. That was that 2284 01:50:36.560 --> 01:50:39.520 was the FIRST time, i went, All right dennis has 2285 01:50:39.520 --> 01:50:42.079 built something here that's going to be sustainable for a long. 2286 01:50:42.119 --> 01:50:45.600 Long time but unfortunately not everything. Can, lasts HEY before 2287 01:50:45.600 --> 01:50:48.439 i set, You loose i've not talked to You About dan. 2288 01:50:48.520 --> 01:50:52.640 Roberts either Thought About dan roberts summoned down after decades 2289 01:50:52.680 --> 01:50:54.840 of the highest levels of a job that you know 2290 01:50:54.880 --> 01:50:57.720 how to do when you ARE the pa. 2291 01:50:57.319 --> 01:51:00.880 Announcer of an arena you are part of the that is. 2292 01:51:00.920 --> 01:51:03.600 The ring there's, the smells there's, the sound but the 2293 01:51:03.640 --> 01:51:06.119 Sounds Of. Dan roberts there was something about running up 2294 01:51:06.119 --> 01:51:09.560 the stairs and hearing him do a sprite read and 2295 01:51:09.600 --> 01:51:12.039 you can just feel the energy and the tempo and 2296 01:51:12.039 --> 01:51:15.920 the build up to. The game it's there's so many 2297 01:51:15.960 --> 01:51:19.680 little things you could never even know. UNTIL it i 2298 01:51:19.680 --> 01:51:20.920 mean it would take me an hour to break it. 2299 01:51:20.920 --> 01:51:23.960 All down that made him the best IN. The nba 2300 01:51:24.319 --> 01:51:28.039 he could feel out that every single night the crowd 2301 01:51:28.239 --> 01:51:31.640 had a, different vibe feel the game did it and 2302 01:51:31.800 --> 01:51:34.439 he would have the perfect way to use his voice 2303 01:51:34.520 --> 01:51:38.039 and his. Energy perfectly he was Never like i'm just 2304 01:51:38.079 --> 01:51:40.880 gonna be this way all. The, time no he could feel. 2305 01:51:40.880 --> 01:51:43.039 It out so when he did the college games that 2306 01:51:43.079 --> 01:51:44.840 were there and maybe there was a lighter crowd or. 2307 01:51:44.960 --> 01:51:48.800 More energetic i've never seen anybody perfect that better. Than 2308 01:51:48.840 --> 01:51:51.560 him there will never be anybody IN the nba better, 2309 01:51:51.600 --> 01:51:54.359 than him because he had a sense. 2310 01:51:55.560 --> 01:51:58.119 That nobody else. Will HAVE and i tried not. 2311 01:51:58.119 --> 01:52:00.720 To, replicate him but to learn that piece of. The, 2312 01:52:00.840 --> 01:52:03.199 art SURE and i FELT like i knew something, of 2313 01:52:03.239 --> 01:52:06.640 it but, his level it wasn't just the experience me 2314 01:52:06.800 --> 01:52:10.079 had it in his, earlier years, the, voice obviously but 2315 01:52:10.119 --> 01:52:13.359 it was he had more SKILL than i think anybody 2316 01:52:13.359 --> 01:52:15.319 could ever give him. Credit, for so if you understand 2317 01:52:15.319 --> 01:52:18.520 the art of public, address announcing you realized. His skill 2318 01:52:18.640 --> 01:52:21.159 and so HE and i had plenty of conversations, about 2319 01:52:21.199 --> 01:52:23.640 that and there was nothing. Like it, Last thing, I'LL 2320 01:52:23.680 --> 01:52:25.960 say i was supposed to host this big thing for 2321 01:52:26.039 --> 01:52:31.199 him for a. Milestone game still have the, voice voicemail. 2322 01:52:30.920 --> 01:52:33.880 And he called Me. Out parks This, is roberts blah. 2323 01:52:33.880 --> 01:52:35.520 Blah blah i'm supposed to talk to you about some 2324 01:52:36.279 --> 01:52:38.920 leaping huha coming. Up, TOMORROW look i don't want, ANY 2325 01:52:38.960 --> 01:52:41.399 bs i don't want any. Of this just keep, it 2326 01:52:41.479 --> 01:52:44.520 simple make, the announcement make sure everybody knows HOW much i, 2327 01:52:44.520 --> 01:52:46.319 appreciate him and let's move to. 2328 01:52:46.399 --> 01:52:50.119 THE game i. Love, it, look man you've got a 2329 01:52:50.119 --> 01:52:53.399 flight to. Catch YEP so i appreciate. YOUR time SLBs Dot, com, 2330 01:52:53.439 --> 01:52:56.319 YAH yep SLBs, dot com, go there get. Your tickets 2331 01:52:56.359 --> 01:52:58.640 plenty of great fireworks nights. Coming up check us out 2332 01:52:58.680 --> 01:53:01.880 at The new Ballpark At America. First square great to, 2333 01:53:01.880 --> 01:53:06.159 see him, My Guy tony parks twenty. Minutes away twenty 2334 01:53:06.319 --> 01:53:08.800 minutes from, right now we will learn Where The utah 2335 01:53:08.960 --> 01:53:11.399 jazz will draft coming up IN The nba Draft on 2336 01:53:11.520 --> 01:53:15.600 june the twenty fifth Round one june the Twenty. Fifth 2337 01:53:15.640 --> 01:53:17.880 round two is the. Twenty sixth it's a two day e, 2338 01:53:17.960 --> 01:53:19.680 end now it has been for a couple. Of years 2339 01:53:20.319 --> 01:53:21.840 we'll say. GOOD night a little, bit earlier we're going 2340 01:53:21.880 --> 01:53:24.399 to send you OVER To espn radios live coverage OF 2341 01:53:24.439 --> 01:53:28.399 Tonight's nba. Draft lottery just a little bit of a 2342 01:53:28.439 --> 01:53:31.720 primer and a reminder of Where the jazz. Are at 2343 01:53:31.800 --> 01:53:35.119 they have a fourteen percent chance of landing the number one, 2344 01:53:35.159 --> 01:53:37.199 overall pick as Do the wizards And. The Hornets the 2345 01:53:37.199 --> 01:53:39.840 pelicans have a twelve point five, percent chance the seventy 2346 01:53:39.880 --> 01:53:43.319 six ers ten, point five nets, At nine raptors at seven. 2347 01:53:43.359 --> 01:53:47.680 Point Five The San antonio spurs have a six percent 2348 01:53:47.760 --> 01:53:50.600 chance of winning. Tonight's, Lottery porter what is the what 2349 01:53:50.720 --> 01:53:55.119 is the reaction from the Basketball world if tonight's lottery 2350 01:53:55.199 --> 01:53:57.760 is Revealed And san antonio has moved up To Draft 2351 01:53:57.800 --> 01:54:00.039 cooper flag and put him Next to Victor, whom. 2352 01:54:00.279 --> 01:54:03.079 Man they would kind of like officially be the most, 2353 01:54:03.119 --> 01:54:06.560 fortunate team and not only the most fortunate but doing 2354 01:54:06.600 --> 01:54:09.119 it well and timing. It well the fact that they 2355 01:54:09.279 --> 01:54:11.920 went all out and tanked not just at any at, 2356 01:54:11.920 --> 01:54:16.039 any point but to get tim duncan you Know The david. 2357 01:54:16.119 --> 01:54:18.800 Robbinson stuff all of it has happened in a time 2358 01:54:18.880 --> 01:54:21.359 frame where you got to tip your cap. To him 2359 01:54:21.760 --> 01:54:23.439 but also if it worked to go down like, that 2360 01:54:23.479 --> 01:54:29.079 tonight there is a large share of luck maybe if, 2361 01:54:29.079 --> 01:54:33.399 you want, but man it's an organizations put themselves in 2362 01:54:33.399 --> 01:54:34.239 the right position at the. 2363 01:54:34.279 --> 01:54:37.640 Right times i'll say That the jazz also are guaranteed 2364 01:54:37.680 --> 01:54:40.199 of a top, five pick which is really really. Good 2365 01:54:40.239 --> 01:54:44.239 news they have a fifty two chance of staying in the. 2366 01:54:44.239 --> 01:54:46.600 Top four the last time the team with the worst 2367 01:54:46.640 --> 01:54:48.920 record IN the nba received the number one overall pick 2368 01:54:49.039 --> 01:54:52.359 was six seven years, ago now When The phoenix suns 2369 01:54:52.640 --> 01:54:55.760 had the twenty eighteen pick in. Twenty nineteen they have 2370 01:54:55.840 --> 01:54:59.239 flattened the lottery yards and since, that day the worst 2371 01:54:59.279 --> 01:55:02.880 team and the has not received the number one. Overall 2372 01:55:02.920 --> 01:55:04.520 pick so we'll have to kind of see how it. 2373 01:55:04.520 --> 01:55:07.399 Goes now but we are eighteen. Minutes away but who 2374 01:55:07.439 --> 01:55:09.880 we got on. The desk We've Got, Shams sharani We've 2375 01:55:09.880 --> 01:55:14.039 Got Jay Billis kendrick perkins somehow continues to. Stay employed 2376 01:55:14.239 --> 01:55:16.560 i'll leave my opinion, off air Or maybe i've just 2377 01:55:16.600 --> 01:55:16.960 brought it. 2378 01:55:16.960 --> 01:55:17.520 On air. 2379 01:55:18.960 --> 01:55:21.479 It's amazing to me that that dude keeps. A job, 2380 01:55:21.520 --> 01:55:24.119 But whatever, All, right porter let me get your take, 2381 01:55:24.159 --> 01:55:26.319 on this because we haven't talked to you. About This 2382 01:55:26.399 --> 01:55:32.079 dynamic shams and some others on the intrawebs have reported 2383 01:55:32.199 --> 01:55:34.720 that If the jazz do not get number, one tonight 2384 01:55:34.920 --> 01:55:37.239 they will be very active to try to move up to. 2385 01:55:37.319 --> 01:55:40.640 Number one now that's really nice, in theory but if 2386 01:55:40.680 --> 01:55:43.479 you're Running The charlotte hornets And The washington wizards And 2387 01:55:43.520 --> 01:55:47.680 the pelicans, or whatever it would take a lot to 2388 01:55:47.760 --> 01:55:50.680 be the general manager Who Traded. Cooper flag if all 2389 01:55:50.720 --> 01:55:54.079 of these scouts are right on their projections and he 2390 01:55:54.239 --> 01:55:58.319 is a fifteen to EIGHTEEN year nba, superstar player what 2391 01:55:58.399 --> 01:55:59.880 do you think that. Looks like let's say The j 2392 01:56:00.039 --> 01:56:01.920 as fall the three, or, four yeah and they want 2393 01:56:01.920 --> 01:56:03.479 to move up. To one what do you think it? Would, Take, 2394 01:56:03.720 --> 01:56:05.680 YEAH man i don't KNOW if i see. 2395 01:56:05.800 --> 01:56:08.039 THAT happening i don't KNOW if i really see any 2396 01:56:08.079 --> 01:56:10.359 team moving off of the number one pick. THIS year 2397 01:56:11.640 --> 01:56:14.479 i think if It, were charlotte you might have a 2398 01:56:14.520 --> 01:56:17.239 little more luck than it if It. Were washington that's 2399 01:56:17.319 --> 01:56:20.239 part of the, Variable too spencer's if it's Not, the 2400 01:56:20.319 --> 01:56:23.000 jazz who, is it because that plays a part in 2401 01:56:23.039 --> 01:56:24.479 if you were able to get a deal done, As 2402 01:56:24.520 --> 01:56:27.520 well and then you have to also look at the 2403 01:56:27.920 --> 01:56:30.239 other teams who have that kind, of Assets The Oklahoma 2404 01:56:30.239 --> 01:56:33.039 city thunder and others who might be able to make 2405 01:56:33.079 --> 01:56:35.800 a move to move up in the draft to get 2406 01:56:35.800 --> 01:56:38.399 into the top two, or three which is really really 2407 01:56:38.399 --> 01:56:42.840 where you want to be in twenty. Twenty five, YOU 2408 01:56:42.880 --> 01:56:47.239 know i don't know that you you see that happen. 2409 01:56:47.319 --> 01:56:50.600 This year but What the jazz have is as many 2410 01:56:50.600 --> 01:56:53.079 assets as any team in the league to get into, Those, 2411 01:56:53.159 --> 01:56:58.079 conversation spence and also get into other conversations as trade 2412 01:56:58.079 --> 01:57:01.079 talks heat up around the, draft time because that's that's 2413 01:57:01.079 --> 01:57:03.239 SOMETHING that i think we have to keep our. Eye 2414 01:57:03.279 --> 01:57:06.399 on If the jazz Don't Get, cooper flag keep an 2415 01:57:06.399 --> 01:57:09.239 eye on trades that Don't Involve cooper flag as well, 2416 01:57:09.359 --> 01:57:14.560 this offseason Because the jazz could pivot a little bit 2417 01:57:14.600 --> 01:57:18.039 and now acquire other young talent they could really shift 2418 01:57:18.039 --> 01:57:21.359 off Of The jordan Clarkson's The, john collins the others that, 2419 01:57:21.600 --> 01:57:26.600 you know expiring contracts and other to get involved in non. 2420 01:57:26.760 --> 01:57:27.600 Twenty twenty five. 2421 01:57:27.720 --> 01:57:30.960 Draft trades that's something that could very much happen during 2422 01:57:31.000 --> 01:57:31.520 the draft. 2423 01:57:32.079 --> 01:57:36.000 As well so let's kind of just review some of 2424 01:57:36.039 --> 01:57:38.399 this stuff as far as how this could potentially. Go 2425 01:57:38.479 --> 01:57:41.560 down the lottery Is, in chicago WHERE The Nba draft 2426 01:57:41.560 --> 01:57:46.479 combine is also, Taking place So the jazz Along, with 2427 01:57:46.760 --> 01:57:50.079 washington Along with charlotte with the best chance of landing 2428 01:57:50.079 --> 01:57:53.039 the number one. Overall, pick now remember the lottery only 2429 01:57:53.079 --> 01:57:57.319 determines one Through four five through fourteen is determined simply 2430 01:57:57.319 --> 01:58:01.800 by inverse, of record so not every single slot IN 2431 01:58:01.840 --> 01:58:04.920 The nba draft lottery is determined by this lottery as 2432 01:58:04.960 --> 01:58:07.239 far as how it. Goes, down now again as a, 2433 01:58:07.319 --> 01:58:08.960 reference earlier and this is important to keep. 2434 01:58:08.960 --> 01:58:09.560 In MIND. 2435 01:58:11.039 --> 01:58:13.640 And i usually just kind of err on the side 2436 01:58:13.720 --> 01:58:17.600 of listening to scouts that analyze these prospects as their 2437 01:58:17.680 --> 01:58:19.199 day to. Day job it didn't used to be, Like 2438 01:58:19.279 --> 01:58:22.279 that like it's the media game has changed a little 2439 01:58:22.279 --> 01:58:26.039 bit where there's so many people who specialize in, one element, 2440 01:58:26.199 --> 01:58:29.159 one dynamic not even just. ONE sport, i mean in, 2441 01:58:29.199 --> 01:58:32.920 college football the ecosystem. Is, wild LIKE if i want 2442 01:58:32.960 --> 01:58:36.199 to talk About a utah football high, School recruit i'm 2443 01:58:36.239 --> 01:58:39.159 going to listen to the recruiting services that have watched 2444 01:58:39.159 --> 01:58:41.239 this kid play since he was fourteen. Or whatever i'm 2445 01:58:41.279 --> 01:58:45.239 not going to try to analyze Some kid i've seen 2446 01:58:45.279 --> 01:58:48.920 five or. Six times so when you read what the 2447 01:58:48.960 --> 01:58:52.319 scouts have to say ABOUT The nba draft, THIS year 2448 01:58:53.520 --> 01:58:55.920 i feel like most people believe it's a, four player, 2449 01:58:56.079 --> 01:59:00.560 game changing franchise piece. Potential, draft, okay well the worst, 2450 01:59:00.640 --> 01:59:02.920 case SCENARIO if i could just say the most obvious 2451 01:59:02.960 --> 01:59:04.399 THING that i could say in, the microphone If the 2452 01:59:04.479 --> 01:59:07.760 jazz fall to five, this year that's where, and Look 2453 01:59:08.000 --> 01:59:10.439 Maybe trey johnson turns out to be a. Steal right 2454 01:59:10.560 --> 01:59:13.560 but when you read about most of the rankings and 2455 01:59:13.600 --> 01:59:16.880 most of, the analysis it's a one tier Draft With 2456 01:59:17.000 --> 01:59:19.560 cooper flag at. The top AND then i think there 2457 01:59:19.600 --> 01:59:22.199 are a lot. Of people, you know there are some 2458 01:59:22.840 --> 01:59:25.680 media members and people that cover the league that really 2459 01:59:25.720 --> 01:59:27.800 just try to zig when everyone else. Is zagging like 2460 01:59:27.840 --> 01:59:30.600 When wembn yama, was available we'd have guests on The 2461 01:59:30.640 --> 01:59:32.319 Show big hey kind Of like Scoot and, you're, like 2462 01:59:32.359 --> 01:59:35.159 dude don't. DO that i don't think there's anybody who 2463 01:59:35.199 --> 01:59:40.199 has been as Audacious About dylan harper as they Were About, 2464 01:59:40.239 --> 01:59:43.159 scoot henderson who's a fine, young player but not near 2465 01:59:43.199 --> 01:59:46.039 the game. Changing player the Victor woman yam is so 2466 01:59:47.199 --> 01:59:49.439 one tier The top. Cooper flag he's on the tier. 2467 01:59:49.479 --> 01:59:52.079 By HIMSELF but i do think there are a lot 2468 01:59:52.079 --> 01:59:55.239 of people that seem To Believe dylan harper at two 2469 01:59:55.399 --> 01:59:58.880 has a chance to be a game changing, franchise pillar 2470 01:59:59.039 --> 02:00:00.560 and he does rem up so more AND more I 2471 02:00:00.560 --> 02:00:02.800 Watched DYLAN harper i was watching some. Last night he 2472 02:00:02.840 --> 02:00:06.239 does remind Me Of, kate COUNYINGHAM and i don't love the, 2473 02:00:06.439 --> 02:00:09.600 comp THING but i do think it gives fans and 2474 02:00:09.640 --> 02:00:11.560 folks that are just curious kind of an idea of 2475 02:00:11.600 --> 02:00:14.479 what these players are gonna. Look Like so Cooper won dylan. 2476 02:00:14.520 --> 02:00:16.439 AT two i think a lot of People Believe ace 2477 02:00:16.479 --> 02:00:19.119 bailey is the third. Best prospect We had tom haberstraw 2478 02:00:19.119 --> 02:00:24.079 on earlier that said he would Go. Vj edgecomb bless 2479 02:00:24.119 --> 02:00:26.399 you say, Something intelligent, BLESS you. 2480 02:00:26.479 --> 02:00:30.399 I, will Say while i'm not one who is Going 2481 02:00:30.399 --> 02:00:33.640 to zeke while everyone, IS zagging i Do like harper really. 2482 02:00:33.640 --> 02:00:36.000 Good defender you mentioned That The kate cunningham comp. 2483 02:00:37.439 --> 02:00:39.640 Just kind of a prototype of what you want as a, 2484 02:00:39.640 --> 02:00:41.760 wing scorer but doesn't dominate. 2485 02:00:41.800 --> 02:00:44.880 The, BALL really i don't know if that's, smart enough 2486 02:00:44.880 --> 02:00:47.600 but it was. Very intelligent and by, the way that's 2487 02:00:47.600 --> 02:00:51.039 a huge UPSET that i only. SNEEZED once i, usually 2488 02:00:51.279 --> 02:00:54.520 Like if, i'm sneezing you're getting three. Or four the 2489 02:00:54.560 --> 02:00:56.600 FACT that i only had one there is a. Huge 2490 02:00:56.640 --> 02:00:59.399 upset it's it's it's part of your. Your job you 2491 02:00:59.399 --> 02:01:02.199 gotta get a it. On here, it's true but only 2492 02:01:02.239 --> 02:01:05.000 had one. Sneeze, there anyway back TO what i, WAS 2493 02:01:05.039 --> 02:01:07.600 saying i feel like If the jazz stay in the, 2494 02:01:07.640 --> 02:01:10.039 top four they are going to get a player that 2495 02:01:10.399 --> 02:01:12.159 the fan base is going to like. A Lot to 2496 02:01:12.279 --> 02:01:15.119 porter's Point About, Dylan harper ace is, a project but 2497 02:01:15.359 --> 02:01:18.000 man is he built exactly the way you want your 2498 02:01:18.239 --> 02:01:20.359 MODERN day nba wing to. Be built and he's six ten, 2499 02:01:20.439 --> 02:01:22.760 six eleven but he can. Handle it he's more of. 2500 02:01:22.800 --> 02:01:24.800 A wing AND then byu FANS. 2501 02:01:24.840 --> 02:01:25.079 Remember. 2502 02:01:25.199 --> 02:01:27.119 Vj edgecomb he had a really good Game in provo. 2503 02:01:27.199 --> 02:01:29.520 This year but then From everything, i've read at the 2504 02:01:29.560 --> 02:01:31.840 least it appears that there's a drop off between four, 2505 02:01:31.840 --> 02:01:34.840 And Five So, Cooper Flag, Dylan Harper ACE. Bailey vj 2506 02:01:34.960 --> 02:01:38.720 edgecomb according to what most scouts seem to be reporting and, 2507 02:01:38.760 --> 02:01:41.279 talking about are all are all players that you can 2508 02:01:41.319 --> 02:01:43.479 get really. Excited about it's If the jazz fall to 2509 02:01:43.560 --> 02:01:46.800 five tonight where the wind will just go out of. The, 2510 02:01:46.840 --> 02:01:49.800 sales now of course you want one. Bottom line but 2511 02:01:50.680 --> 02:01:54.279 as we talked about, earlier today the News That yannas 2512 02:01:54.279 --> 02:01:57.399 Sante to cumbo is now willing to find a new 2513 02:01:57.399 --> 02:02:00.800 place to Play And mark lasry are very. C owner 2514 02:02:00.840 --> 02:02:03.680 he Owns A milwaukee bucks that has that's a good front, 2515 02:02:03.680 --> 02:02:06.640 office there, you know good reputation for doing right by. 2516 02:02:06.640 --> 02:02:10.800 Their players they'll work in. Lockstep together now at the 2517 02:02:10.880 --> 02:02:13.359 end of, the day the job of the front office 2518 02:02:13.479 --> 02:02:16.800 is too simply do what's right for the organization and 2519 02:02:16.840 --> 02:02:18.600 do what's right for. The city but a Guy like 2520 02:02:18.640 --> 02:02:21.920 giannis is different because He brought milwaukee their FIRST title 2521 02:02:21.920 --> 02:02:25.399 i think in. Fifty, years okay so YOU know i 2522 02:02:25.520 --> 02:02:27.920 drew the Parallel Between kevin garnett a little. Bit earlier 2523 02:02:27.960 --> 02:02:32.279 Garnett gave minnesota a decade of, high quality, elite play 2524 02:02:33.119 --> 02:02:36.039 and they could never surround him with the talent that 2525 02:02:36.119 --> 02:02:38.920 he needed at his disposal of the. Win championship so 2526 02:02:38.960 --> 02:02:40.800 he Went to, minnesota, SAID look i gave you, A 2527 02:02:40.800 --> 02:02:44.159 decade i'd like to land with. A Contender danny ainge 2528 02:02:44.159 --> 02:02:46.319 trades for Him, in boston and of course the rest. 2529 02:02:46.399 --> 02:02:48.079 Is history that was a really good Team With paul 2530 02:02:48.079 --> 02:02:51.199 Pierce And ray ALLEN. And kg this feels a little 2531 02:02:51.239 --> 02:02:56.760 bit Similar where Yannis gave milwaukee twelve years brought them, 2532 02:02:56.760 --> 02:03:01.479 a championship and still to, this day it's. DIFFERENT now 2533 02:03:01.800 --> 02:03:03.880 i think with the habits that a lot of players 2534 02:03:03.960 --> 02:03:07.680 have and the ability to take care of their body 2535 02:03:07.680 --> 02:03:09.600 a little, bit Differently like lebron's played at a high 2536 02:03:09.640 --> 02:03:12.600 level into, his FORTIES and i keep hearing, people, Say 2537 02:03:12.600 --> 02:03:15.119 well yiannis's thirties run out. OF time i Don't think 2538 02:03:15.840 --> 02:03:19.279 giannis is running out of time. At all with the 2539 02:03:19.279 --> 02:03:21.439 way that dude takes care of, HIS body i think 2540 02:03:21.439 --> 02:03:23.920 we Could see giannis play high level basketball for. Another 2541 02:03:23.920 --> 02:03:29.680 DECADE so i bring it up because the teams that 2542 02:03:29.720 --> 02:03:33.279 have been talked about today that could realistically make a 2543 02:03:33.319 --> 02:03:37.960 Play for giannis are, very similar some of them at 2544 02:03:38.039 --> 02:03:40.479 least to Where the jazz find themselves a rebuilding team 2545 02:03:40.520 --> 02:03:44.000 with a compendium of, draft assets, clean books and some decent. 2546 02:03:44.039 --> 02:03:46.800 Young players but nobody's talking About the jazz as an 2547 02:03:46.800 --> 02:03:51.399 option because you hear Teams Like oklahoma City And san Antonio, 2548 02:03:51.520 --> 02:03:54.319 and houston teams with some draft capital but also. Good 2549 02:03:54.319 --> 02:03:57.560 Players because milwaukee's GONNA want i use this, hypothetical EARLIER 2550 02:03:58.039 --> 02:04:01.199 and i actually do think you. Consider It jalen williams 2551 02:04:01.319 --> 02:04:04.199 Chat hoolm grin four or five Picks. For giannis then 2552 02:04:04.279 --> 02:04:06.560 You put giannis Next to shay for, a Decade And 2553 02:04:06.720 --> 02:04:09.760 oklahoma city would be even more impossible than they are. 2554 02:04:09.840 --> 02:04:14.000 Right Now the jazz do not have the package to 2555 02:04:14.359 --> 02:04:18.399 match what other teams could Offer. For, yiannis unless in 2556 02:04:18.439 --> 02:04:21.640 ten minutes from, right now the lottery luck goes, their 2557 02:04:21.680 --> 02:04:23.720 way the ping pong balls bounce the way they, need 2558 02:04:23.720 --> 02:04:26.920 to And the jazz get number, one overall then you 2559 02:04:26.960 --> 02:04:32.000 can enter into Conversations for Jannis or Durant or booker. 2560 02:04:32.159 --> 02:04:34.840 Or whoever so ten, Minutes, away porter let's get out 2561 02:04:34.840 --> 02:04:36.039 of here before we say a. Good night what comes 2562 02:04:36.119 --> 02:04:37.680 our way Out of tuesday edition of. 2563 02:04:37.720 --> 02:04:39.520 The, show, yeah man On a, tuesday show, of course 2564 02:04:39.560 --> 02:04:43.239 we will react TO The nba, Draft Lottery, Andy larson 2565 02:04:43.319 --> 02:04:46.279 he'll be LIVE The nba combine. As well tim McMahon 2566 02:04:46.319 --> 02:04:49.640 stops by FOR The Nba daily assist an Hour With Richard, 2567 02:04:49.760 --> 02:04:50.840 Smitty smith. 2568 02:04:50.600 --> 02:04:51.920 So a lot, of basketball a lot. 2569 02:04:51.960 --> 02:04:52.000 Of. 2570 02:04:52.079 --> 02:04:54.880 Jazz offseason we'll Chat with limitale all poly campus and 2571 02:04:54.880 --> 02:04:58.600 college football, as well but all hoops as. We react 2572 02:04:58.640 --> 02:05:01.119 the draft, lottery next And the Knicks and celtics, after 2573 02:05:01.119 --> 02:05:01.199 that