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<v Speaker 1>It is Tuesday at this time. You know what that means.

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<v Speaker 1>We bring you stories from the world of true crime.

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<v Speaker 2>The story is true, sounds true? No, it sounds made up.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know. Perry and Shannon present true crime.

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<v Speaker 1>So here's a headline that captured our attention. Nearly half

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<v Speaker 1>of America's murderers get away with it. When you think

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<v Speaker 1>about high profile murders, you think of dateline, You think

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<v Speaker 1>of the familial murders, husband wife stuff. You think of

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<v Speaker 1>the headlines of Lacy Peterson and things like that, and

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<v Speaker 1>of course there's always one suspect that's zeroed in on.

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<v Speaker 1>And what do you mean half of America's murderers get

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<v Speaker 1>away with it? Because we hear about one percent of

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<v Speaker 1>the murders. I don't know how many of them reach

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<v Speaker 1>our our minds, our television screens, our newspapers, but many,

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<v Speaker 1>many murders do not reach that level. Someone had murdered

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<v Speaker 1>Raymel Atkins in Louisville in twenty twenty three, and more

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<v Speaker 1>than a year later, his mom and sister don't know

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<v Speaker 1>who did it. Police have not made an arrest in

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<v Speaker 1>the case. Raymel's not the only one. Same for Tiffany

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<v Speaker 1>Floyd killed in twenty twenty one, Michael David killed in

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<v Speaker 1>twenty seventeen, Corey Crowe killed in twenty fourteen.

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<v Speaker 2>Not just no ending, no solution, no verdict, no arrest.

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<v Speaker 1>Don't even have a suspect in these cases, and these

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<v Speaker 1>are just a couple of names. In fact, police in

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<v Speaker 1>Louisville do not arrest anyone in roughly half of murder cases.

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<v Speaker 1>Family members of these victims have a similar sentiment that

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<v Speaker 1>the police had abandoned them. The police don't really care.

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<v Speaker 1>They've proven it to me, the victim's family say. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>Lousville's police department acknowledges serious problems. They are understaffed, like

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<v Speaker 1>many major police departments, about three hundred officers below full staffing. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>you don't get to say that murders aren't solved. Nobody

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<v Speaker 1>cares about us. The police don't care about us. In

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<v Speaker 1>one hand, and in the other hand, say let's get

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<v Speaker 1>rid of the police department, because that has been the

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<v Speaker 1>mood in this country now for ten years, at least

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<v Speaker 1>five years, the defund the police movement, things like that.

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<v Speaker 2>Get rid of the police. They're out to get you.

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<v Speaker 1>But what about when you need the police to go

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<v Speaker 1>get whoever killed your loved ones, then it's nice to

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<v Speaker 1>have them around, right. Well, that very sentiment of defund

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<v Speaker 1>the police has done just that. It's defunded a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of police departments. It's a struggle here in Los Angeles

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<v Speaker 1>to get the LAPD back up to where it needs

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<v Speaker 1>to be. It's not just budgetary concerns, it's recruitment. Who

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<v Speaker 1>wants to be a police officer anymore? Who wants to

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<v Speaker 1>be a police officer in twenty twenty five Put on

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<v Speaker 1>that uniform and that badge and go put your life

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<v Speaker 1>on the line every day for an ungrateful public who

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<v Speaker 1>wants that job. It used to come with honor and respect,

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<v Speaker 1>and now you get zero of those things. For a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of the population. You don't look at police and

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<v Speaker 1>see help. They look at police and see the enemy.

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<v Speaker 1>And one of the side effects of that is going

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<v Speaker 1>to be a very low conviction rate. The Louisville departments

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<v Speaker 1>trying to address those issues. They've told victims' families, we

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<v Speaker 1>understand you're grieving. Oh, it's frustrating for us too, they say.

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<v Speaker 1>In the United States, most people get away with murder.

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<v Speaker 1>Louisville's just my or cosm of that the clearance rate

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<v Speaker 1>was fifty eight.

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<v Speaker 2>Percent in twenty twenty three. What does that mean?

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<v Speaker 1>The clearance rate, that's the share of cases that result

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<v Speaker 1>in an arrest or that are solved, just fifty eight percent.

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<v Speaker 1>All that figures inflated too, because they're also counting murders

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<v Speaker 1>from previous years that the police solved in twenty twenty three.

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<v Speaker 2>So yeah, you're looking maybe at forty percent. In other words,

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<v Speaker 2>a murderer's.

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<v Speaker 1>Chance of getting caught within a year essentially comes down

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<v Speaker 1>to a coin flip. For other crimes that don't rise

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<v Speaker 1>to the level of murder, clearance rates are even lower.

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<v Speaker 1>You steal a car, You're pretty, You're good, You're good.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sorry, but that's what the data says. Only eight

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<v Speaker 1>percent of car thef's result in an arrest. That's that's

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<v Speaker 1>pretty good odds. I hope I see a Lamborghini on

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<v Speaker 1>the way home. I understand understand why people jack cars

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<v Speaker 1>and lead police on a chase that aren't Lamborghinis. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>if I'm going to lead the cops on a chase,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm going to do it with it like a Dodge

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<v Speaker 1>charge or something with a little something with a little

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<v Speaker 1>go maybe a Honda civic.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, if we're not going to get the Lamborghini.

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<v Speaker 1>America compared with its peers, does an unusually poor job

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<v Speaker 1>of solving killings. When you look at murder clearance rates

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<v Speaker 1>of other countries Australia, Britain, Germany, those hover in the seventies, eighties,

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<v Speaker 1>and nineties.

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<v Speaker 2>They say there are several issues.

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<v Speaker 1>Lack of resources, the sheer volume of cases, a distrust

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<v Speaker 1>of the police. This is from a criminal justice researcher

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<v Speaker 1>not named me. This is Philip Cook, who says it's

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<v Speaker 1>a serious problem. And I've got to believe my hypothesis

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<v Speaker 1>more than just the volume of cases. If you hate

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<v Speaker 1>the police, you're not going to talk to them either.

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<v Speaker 1>And a lot of clearing cases, solving cases relies on witnesses.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not just talking about people who saw a crime,

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<v Speaker 1>but people who know the guy who did it, or

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<v Speaker 1>know that the guy who did it recently came in

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<v Speaker 1>the way of a firearm, things like that. Right, we're

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<v Speaker 1>just at this. If you're okay with defunding the police,

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<v Speaker 1>you've got to also be okay with unchecked violence. Unfortunately,

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<v Speaker 1>so they say that there's some sort of solution in

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<v Speaker 1>this article guns, they blame it on guns. Well, we've

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<v Speaker 1>had guns for a very long time. Volume distrust of

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<v Speaker 1>the police. Yes, they said that the solutions are this. First,

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<v Speaker 1>lawmakers and the police could commit more resources to solving murders. Okay, again,

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<v Speaker 1>nobody's signing up to be a police officer because of

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<v Speaker 1>the anti police sentiment right now in this country. They say, Second,

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<v Speaker 1>the police could make greater use of modern technology cameras,

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<v Speaker 1>facial recognition software.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, well, I'd like.

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<v Speaker 1>To introduce you to people over here called the ACLU,

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<v Speaker 1>which will keep that kind of technology wrapped up in

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<v Speaker 1>the courts for a long time. They talk about more

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<v Speaker 1>police departments embracing flock cameras they automatically read those license plates,

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<v Speaker 1>detect gunfire, things like that. Again, those are not going

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<v Speaker 1>to be in line with what civil libertarians will go.

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<v Speaker 2>To bat for.

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<v Speaker 1>So we're just at this place right now where we're screwed.

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<v Speaker 1>So if you want to steal a car, I guess

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<v Speaker 1>to take away is you know you might you might

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<v Speaker 1>do better in that in that field. Where is Jody

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<v Speaker 1>huisen trut I'm not sure if I'm saying that last

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<v Speaker 1>name correctly, but Jody Hoisten truth Twissen Truth was a

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<v Speaker 1>local morning television anchor in Mason City, Iowa, meant arriving

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<v Speaker 1>for work at three am. If you've worked the morning

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<v Speaker 1>shift in broadcast, you've done this before as well. And

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<v Speaker 1>she had never missed a show, not once. But if

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<v Speaker 1>you've ever done a morning broadcast schedule, you know that

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<v Speaker 1>time always comes.

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<v Speaker 2>You oversleep at least once.

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<v Speaker 1>When your alarm goes off at two AM to get

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<v Speaker 1>to work, it's gonna happen.

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<v Speaker 2>It's going to happen at least once.

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<v Speaker 1>Even for the most dedicated, the strongest work ethic, it

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<v Speaker 1>happens at least once. Well, it was June twenty seventh,

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<v Speaker 1>nineteen ninety five, and she finally overslept. She called the

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<v Speaker 1>news producer at the station and she said, I'll be

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<v Speaker 1>right in. She realized she lived about a mile from work.

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<v Speaker 1>She was from Minnesota. Jody was youngest of three daughters,

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<v Speaker 1>very much into sports, loved golf, and she briefly worked

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<v Speaker 1>as a Northwest Airlines flight attendant. A friend remembers that

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<v Speaker 1>she liked to say she wanted to be on the air,

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<v Speaker 1>not in the air, and that morning, when she still

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<v Speaker 1>didn't show up at the station, everyone thought whateveryone one

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<v Speaker 1>else thinks, oh, she overslept.

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<v Speaker 2>It happens. She was never found.

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<v Speaker 1>Twenty seven year old Jody hoisten Trut was never found,

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<v Speaker 1>but they did find disturbing signs of her absence. When

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<v Speaker 1>police got to the scene of her apartment, there was

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<v Speaker 1>no sign of Jody, but her car was there and

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<v Speaker 1>there were definite signs of a struggle a bent car key.

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<v Speaker 1>They said that it indicated she was probably attacked from behind,

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of force used. Her stuff was strown across

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<v Speaker 1>the garage and the floor, red heels, blow dryer, earrings,

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<v Speaker 1>drag marks in the parking lot. Anyway, her building had

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<v Speaker 1>no security cameras, it was not lit very well. Police

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<v Speaker 1>found no blood, no witnesses, never been seen nobody. Thirty

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<v Speaker 1>years later, there is a devoted team of volunteers still

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<v Speaker 1>trying to solve this mystery. Mason City, by the Way,

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<v Speaker 1>on its fourth police chief since Jody's disappearance. That tip

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<v Speaker 1>continually come in about Jody, usually around this time of

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<v Speaker 1>year because it's the anniversary. Late June is when they

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<v Speaker 1>hear more about it. Now, about nine months before she

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<v Speaker 1>went missing, she did file a police report regarding a

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<v Speaker 1>suspicious subject who was following her, driving her or driving

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<v Speaker 1>behind her in a small white Newer pickup. She had

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<v Speaker 1>taken a self defense class. The day before she disappeared.

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<v Speaker 1>She played in a charity golf tournament, and she told

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<v Speaker 1>some people that she was playing with that she considered

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<v Speaker 1>changing her phone number because she was getting harassing phone calls.

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<v Speaker 1>This is kind of troubling, but also she's in the

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<v Speaker 1>public eye and it's not completely out of the realm.

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<v Speaker 1>There was a guy that they focused in on, John

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<v Speaker 1>Van Seiss was his name. They ran in the same circle.

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<v Speaker 1>He was twenty years older. She had been at his

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<v Speaker 1>place the night before she disappeared. He was never named

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<v Speaker 1>a suspect, never charged. He had always claimed he was

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<v Speaker 1>friends with her and denied any involved in her abduction.

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<v Speaker 1>Back in twenty seventeen, as technology had come a long

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<v Speaker 1>way since ninety five, they did put a GPS mobile

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<v Speaker 1>tracking device on his vehicles. He provided DNA fingerprints palm

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<v Speaker 1>prints to comply with a court order, but nothing and

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<v Speaker 1>then he died.

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<v Speaker 2>He died last year.

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<v Speaker 1>They do have one piece of evidence, a palm print,

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<v Speaker 1>and they do have her belongings collected at the scene.

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<v Speaker 1>Whose palm print is it? They don't know. They did

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<v Speaker 1>get a tip last October and they worked with police

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<v Speaker 1>in her home state of Minnesota to search a farm

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<v Speaker 1>construction area. They'd only found animal bones. They had gotten

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<v Speaker 1>a tip that there was a guy by the name

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<v Speaker 1>of Christopher Revik who had been linked to two other

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<v Speaker 1>cases with female victims. And there were some sort of

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<v Speaker 1>connections between the two. But again that led nowhere, and

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<v Speaker 1>then he died. He died in jail, but again nothing,

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<v Speaker 1>nothing else. There's a colleague that worked with her at

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<v Speaker 1>the TV station in this small town, Mason City, Iowa,

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<v Speaker 1>and he said he can feel the anxiety and the

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<v Speaker 1>shock of it as if it were yesterday.

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<v Speaker 2>Yesterday.

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<v Speaker 1>Remember, she did the news, so this station was covering

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<v Speaker 1>her disappearance in real time. It wasn't just a local

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<v Speaker 1>girl has disappeared. It's a local girl who worked here,

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<v Speaker 1>who was on your television screen, in your living room,

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<v Speaker 1>in your bedroom.

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<v Speaker 2>Every night. They had to cover the news of her disappearances.

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<v Speaker 2>It was unfolding.

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<v Speaker 1>This guy, Brian still has a two page script he

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<v Speaker 1>wrote for that night's broadcast. He said, nothing would it

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<v Speaker 1>have prepared him or that team for having to report

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<v Speaker 1>on the disappearance of a beloved colleague. He says he's

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<v Speaker 1>surprised that nobody has slipped up over the years to

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<v Speaker 1>reveal any secrets that would lead to any answers. He said,

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<v Speaker 1>it was crazy trying to be a news reporter just

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<v Speaker 1>starting out and investigating that story. And you know, the

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<v Speaker 1>person missing, the eyes in town, the Iowa Division of

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<v Speaker 1>Criminal Investigation are in town.

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<v Speaker 2>They're all in the newsroom.

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<v Speaker 1>They're doing the same investigation that you're doing about your friend,

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<v Speaker 1>interviewing them while they're trying to write that night's show.

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<v Speaker 2>About the disappearance.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, it's all just so very surreal, just like

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<v Speaker 1>the fact that nobody has turned up. Now nineteen ninety five,

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<v Speaker 1>if not necessarily the time when you were having any

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<v Speaker 1>sort of great results with technology with DNA and things

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<v Speaker 1>like that, but it's not like it was nineteen fifty five.

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<v Speaker 1>It's wild that there's been no body and no one

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<v Speaker 1>has talked, and they worry that everyone that knows something

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<v Speaker 1>could could die. But again, nineteen ninety five not that

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<v Speaker 1>far away. Jody Hoisenstrut Weisnstrut. I'm going to learn her

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<v Speaker 1>name overnight.
