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Speaker 2: As mentioned, joining us this morning, c J. Looss and
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Speaker 1: CJ. How you doing this morning?
Speaker 3: I'm doing great. Happy Thursday, Sean.
Speaker 1: Happy Thursday. Do you do great? To talk with you. CJ. Eric.
Speaker 1: How have you been?
Speaker 4: I'm doing great, Sean?
Speaker 1: Did you get vacation time? Have you been off the
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Speaker 4: on with the show without me, so I guess, I
Speaker 4: guess it can go.
Speaker 1: It wasn't the same. It wasn't the same.
Speaker 2: It's great to have you both along. And we've got
Speaker 2: a great conversation ahead. As I look at the calendar
Speaker 2: right now. Yeah, we're mid year and we're gonna be
Speaker 2: talking near enough to mid year, and we're be talking
Speaker 2: about midyear tax hacks, and we're gonna get to that
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Speaker 2: but oftentimes just about every time both the question and
Speaker 2: answer come up each week during the program, and before
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Speaker 2: As mentioned, we're going to be talking about taxas and
Speaker 2: some considerations for the midyear stretch.
Speaker 1: What do we need to know? CJ.
Speaker 3: Yeah, So today's show is all about taxes and making
Speaker 3: sure that you're on track to have a successful tax
Speaker 3: filing season. Hopefully without too many surprises. As Eric can attest,
Speaker 3: all too often our clients and general public when we
Speaker 3: meet with them, wait too long to start asking questions
Speaker 3: about tax optimization strategies. Often, by the time people start
Speaker 3: asking questions about these tax mitigation strategies, it's often too
Speaker 3: late in the calendar year to make any affordable or
Speaker 3: significant solutions or i should say adjustments. Therefore, since we're
Speaker 3: nearing the middle of twenty twenty five, which is kind
Speaker 3: of crazy to say, we thought we should slow down
Speaker 3: and dedicate a show to some mid year tax strategies
Speaker 3: and questions you should be asking yourself. So here are
Speaker 3: some of those questions and strategies. Starting with questions, are
Speaker 3: you withholding appropriately from your income sources? Have you had
Speaker 3: any significant life changes or do you anticipate any significant
Speaker 3: life changes before year end that could impact the amount
Speaker 3: you should be withholding from your working income. Do you
Speaker 3: owever get a refund from last year from the Feds
Speaker 3: or the state? Have you made any adjustments this year
Speaker 3: to your account for the prior years under or over withholding?
Speaker 3: So these are just some high level questions for you
Speaker 3: to be thinking about as it relates to kind of
Speaker 3: mid year pauses. We often find that individuals or couples
Speaker 3: are so excited to be done filing their income taxes
Speaker 3: in March or April that they fail to make any
Speaker 3: meaningful adjustments the following year to avoid any under or
Speaker 3: over withholding. So now is a great time to pause
Speaker 3: and ask yourself if you made any of these adjustments
Speaker 3: to your withholdings this year to compensate for last year's problems,
Speaker 3: and if not, you should even if your taxes were
Speaker 3: perfect last year. So some people go, yeah, yeah, I
Speaker 3: was fine. I only owed you five hundred dollars or
Speaker 3: I got one thousand dollars back, so I'm fine, Okay,
Speaker 3: we'll stick with me. Even if your taxes were perfect
Speaker 3: last year, you should still ask yourself if there's any
Speaker 3: significant changes or differences about this year compared to last year.
Speaker 3: Here's some exam simples of significant changes that you might
Speaker 3: want to consider. Number one, did you receive a significant
Speaker 3: pay raise or decline? Are you expecting or have you
Speaker 3: received a large bonus this year? Are you for the
Speaker 3: first time vesting some non qualified stock options or restricted
Speaker 3: stock units? Were there any changes in the ways that
Speaker 3: you're compensated, like moving from w two to ten ninety
Speaker 3: nine compensation. Are you starting to generate some income from
Speaker 3: an online business or like a side hustle. Now, well,
Speaker 3: this is not certainly not a comprehensive list of these
Speaker 3: significant changes in income from one year to the next.
Speaker 3: Hopefully it gets your mind thinking critically about this. If
Speaker 3: anything I've mentioned makes you think there could be something
Speaker 3: you need to review, then we would highly suggest working
Speaker 3: with a good accountant or CPA who can help you
Speaker 3: decipher what, if anything, needs to be adjusted to avoid
Speaker 3: any major tax filing surprises in the new year. The
Speaker 3: good news is that by asking these questions now, you
Speaker 3: have ample time before the end of the year to
Speaker 3: make adjustments that hopefully will avoid any major swings in
Speaker 3: your personal cash flow well.
Speaker 1: Laid out there from CJ. Closs.
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Speaker 2: six three seven. So Eric, you know what about estimated
Speaker 2: tax pay payments? I hear, you know, people that are
Speaker 2: you know, own the small businesses are talking about quarterly
Speaker 2: estimates and things like that. But people other never, you know,
Speaker 2: other people have never maybe paid a quarterly estimate in
Speaker 2: their life.
Speaker 1: What what's going on there? What's that all about?
Speaker 4: It's a great question, Sean, And I think when when
Speaker 4: people are here quarterly estimated tax payments, I think often
Speaker 4: people associate it with oh I need to pay more
Speaker 4: taxes than than I would have. But really what you're
Speaker 4: doing is is pre paying some of the tax that
Speaker 4: you will owe at tax time. So estimated tax payments.
Speaker 4: They're basically just a way for individuals and businesses to
Speaker 4: pay income tax that are going to be due at
Speaker 4: the end of the year if not if not paid earlier.
Speaker 4: And this is typically on earnings that are not subject
Speaker 4: to regular tax what's holding, So think of it this way.
Speaker 4: After the end of the calendar year, in most circumstances,
Speaker 4: you're going to owe some federal and state income taxes
Speaker 4: based upon all of the various sources of income that
Speaker 4: you've received throughout the year. So let's look at some
Speaker 4: examples of these income sources. You've probably seen these on
Speaker 4: your tax return, so cash tips, social Security income, pension income, rental,
Speaker 4: property lease payments that you receive, gambling winnings. I know
Speaker 4: everybody's for sure reporting all of that interest income, dividend income,
Speaker 4: capital gains from selling a stock or other appreciated asset,
Speaker 4: W two, wages from your employer, and then if you're
Speaker 4: a contractor, ten ninety nine payments. Now there are many
Speaker 4: more to add to the list, but these are some
Speaker 4: of the more common ones that we see, and pretty
Speaker 4: much all of these sources of income, they have various
Speaker 4: required federal and or state income tax consequences that you'll
Speaker 4: need to be accounting for at the end of the
Speaker 4: year when you go to file your income taxes for
Speaker 4: the prior year, And the question becomes, then, do all
Speaker 4: of these income sources, including all of those that I
Speaker 4: mentioned above and many others, do they automatically pay the
Speaker 4: federal government and the state where I reside before they
Speaker 4: actually pay me. Simple answer here is no. So if
Speaker 4: we think about like a W two for example, that's
Speaker 4: really straightforward. Your employer is withholding federal and usually state
Speaker 4: income taxes, and are they are sending those into the
Speaker 4: I R S or the Department of Revenue in advance, right.
Speaker 4: But if you have substantial earned income sources or unearned
Speaker 4: income sources that do not withhold federal and or state
Speaker 4: income taxes prior to you actually receiving the dollars, you'll
Speaker 4: probably need to make quarterly estimated tax payments. And you
Speaker 4: need to do this to avoid any penalties, since it's
Speaker 4: generally not allowable by states or the federal government to
Speaker 4: just wait till the end of the year and pay
Speaker 4: all of your tax that is due. The I R
Speaker 4: S wants to wants you to pay taxes as you
Speaker 4: earn the income. They are they are not very patient
Speaker 4: when it comes to actually getting the tax payments. So
Speaker 4: how does this work in practice? What you what you
Speaker 4: would need to do is the first step is you
Speaker 4: need to basically estimate what you think your annual income
Speaker 4: will be for the year, and then based on you know,
Speaker 4: various deductions and things like that, what your actual tax
Speaker 4: liability will be. Now, this is where you very likely
Speaker 4: would need to pull in an accountant to help you out,
Speaker 4: which is why we often see small business owners and
Speaker 4: folks who have more income sources outside of just like
Speaker 4: a W two or or even in ten ninety nine.
Speaker 4: This is where we see them working with accountants to
Speaker 4: make sure that they're they're doing all of this correctly
Speaker 4: in advance. But when you after you've done that estimation
Speaker 4: of income and tax liability, if you estimate that you'll
Speaker 4: owe more than about one thousand dollars in federal or
Speaker 4: state taxes, you should generally divide that amount into quarterly
Speaker 4: payments and make these payment amounts by the quarterly due dates,
Speaker 4: which are April fifteenth, June fifteenth, September fifteenth, and January fifteenth,
Speaker 4: and the irs is quite specific about those dates. So
Speaker 4: if we are if we are a few days late,
Speaker 4: there can still be some some interest penalties due on
Speaker 4: those dollars. And I know, Sean, I know, if we
Speaker 4: have accountants or our CPA is listening, they are probably saying, wow,
Speaker 4: that is quite an oversimplification of how all of this works.
Speaker 4: And we hear you. You are you're not wrong about that.
Speaker 4: But we are here on the radio speaking to the
Speaker 4: general public. So this gives everybody a general sense of
Speaker 4: why they might need to make quarterly estimated tax payments,
Speaker 4: along with when those those payments might be due, and
Speaker 4: then we'll trust our friends in the accounting profession to
Speaker 4: implement it all correctly.
Speaker 2: One of the things I really like about this show
Speaker 2: is is the way you guys are always able to
Speaker 2: kind of keep this stuff very good information, but keeping
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Speaker 2: I do fit in these box and maybe further exploration.
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Speaker 2: in Motion with Coss Financial continues right here on thirteen ten.
Speaker 2: Wuibi joined this morning by our retirement planning professionals from
Speaker 2: Closs Financial CJ. Closs and Eric Schwartz. You can learn
Speaker 2: more online thewebsite Closs Financial dot com. That's coss k
Speaker 2: l as Financial dot com and they're telephone number six
Speaker 2: so eight four four two five six three seven. Talking
Speaker 2: this week as we're kind of getting close to midyear,
Speaker 2: getting you ready for tax season and getting you getting
Speaker 2: you prepared and things to keep in mind, And had
Speaker 2: a great rundown in that last segment about estimated tax payments.
Speaker 1: What about record keeping?
Speaker 2: I got to guess, keeping good records of your income
Speaker 2: sources and potential deductions. It's probably pretty important here as well,
Speaker 2: isn't it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, absolutely great point. So given that the emphasis emphasis
Speaker 3: of our show today is around midyear tax hacks and suggestions,
Speaker 3: we should emphasize how important it is to develop a
Speaker 3: good record keeping system for all your income sources and
Speaker 3: your potential expense deductions in any calendar year. So, starting
Speaker 3: with the basics, you should obviously keep good records of
Speaker 3: all your income so and tax documents that arrive in
Speaker 3: the new year for the previous tax year. Some of
Speaker 3: these income sources will send you a tax document, and
Speaker 3: some of these income sources will not. Examples of these
Speaker 3: income sources and tax documents might include a W two
Speaker 3: ten ninety nine's whether it be ten ninety nine R
Speaker 3: or div or I, int self employment income, rental income,
Speaker 3: alimony received, gambling winnings, jury duty pay, etc. Et.
Speaker 4: Cetera.
Speaker 3: Beyond your sources of income and the supporting tax documents
Speaker 3: that might arrive in the new year, you should also
Speaker 3: keep good records at any possible deductible expenses or contributions.
Speaker 3: Some of those expenses or contributions you might want to
Speaker 3: consider documenting and keeping good records of include mileage logs
Speaker 3: for business miles or charitable travel, donation items or donated
Speaker 3: item receipts and logs you don't think like goodwill or
Speaker 3: Saint Vinnie's home office expenses, State and local tax This
Speaker 3: is like property tax bills, mortgage interest expenses that typically
Speaker 3: show up on a Form ten ninety eight, charitable contributions,
Speaker 3: casualty and theft losses, education expenses, retirement account contributions, childcare expenses.
Speaker 3: Think of a purchase and sale of like a rental property,
Speaker 3: and then health savings account contributions. So again, while these
Speaker 3: are not comprehensive lists of income sources or deductible expenses
Speaker 3: or contributions, this should at least give get you started
Speaker 3: on the types of items you may need to record
Speaker 3: in a file for when you eventually go to file
Speaker 3: your income taxes in the new year. Now, I don't
Speaker 3: know about you. But when I hear lists like this,
Speaker 3: I start to clearly understand why people often hire accountants
Speaker 3: to file their income taxes. Again, maybe it's just me,
Speaker 3: but by the way, I'm actually formally trained in tax
Speaker 3: not that I am an enrolled agent or CPA. I
Speaker 3: don't file income taxes for clients. However, we do have
Speaker 3: somebody on staff who does that, by the way, for
Speaker 3: our team, for our clients, but even for me. So again,
Speaker 3: formally trained in tax we have a person on our
Speaker 3: team who does this. I mean, I'm reviewing literally hundreds
Speaker 3: of tax returns a year, so I'm quite competent on
Speaker 3: how the irs or how the tax code works. And
Speaker 3: yet do you think I file my own income taxes? Nope, nope.
Speaker 3: So I'm not saying everyone should have an account and
Speaker 3: file their taxes, but wow, there is a lot to
Speaker 3: know and keep track of to make sure you're filing
Speaker 3: your taxes accurately and with the greatest amount of consideration
Speaker 3: for possible, you know, reductions and tax liability for deductible
Speaker 3: expenses or contributions. And listen, it's not just it's not
Speaker 3: just that there's a lot to this, because again I
Speaker 3: generally know the things that I need to keep track of.
Speaker 3: It's more the Okay, it's enough work for me throughout
Speaker 3: the year just to gather this information. Right, if I
Speaker 3: install a new furnace that has certain efficiencies for I'll
Speaker 3: keep a copy of the receipt so I know these
Speaker 3: kind of hacks and things I should do. But then
Speaker 3: to take it all curated up to a tax return
Speaker 3: and be aware of any minor changes in both the
Speaker 3: documentation and the filing, and then the you know, the
Speaker 3: the actual submission of that return, I just don't want
Speaker 3: to do it. So I'm not saying you need to
Speaker 3: be like me, but what I am saying is do
Speaker 3: develop some good habits around keeping track of these documents,
Speaker 3: whether you're going to file it on your own or
Speaker 3: have somebody do it for you. That the harsh reality
Speaker 3: is even in the best accountant can't file taxes for
Speaker 3: somebody who doesn't know what they bought or contributed or
Speaker 3: sold or what their income was for the year. So
Speaker 3: make sure you try to keep good records.
Speaker 1: As we go through this stuff too.
Speaker 2: It really reinforces the value of having a good financial
Speaker 2: team around you, and of course people that you have
Speaker 2: a great relationship with speaking of great relationships and starting
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Speaker 2: More of money in motion with Coss Financial, it comes
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Speaker 1: Talking this morning with CJ. Closs and Eric Schwartz.
Speaker 2: They are our retirement planning professionals from Class Financial. The
Speaker 2: website coss financial dot com. That's coss k l aa
Speaker 2: s Financial dot com. Telephon number for the office right
Speaker 2: here in Madison six oh eight four four two five
Speaker 2: six three seven. Don't forget that first appointment at Coss Financial.
Speaker 2: It will be complementary to you again their number six
Speaker 2: oh eight four four two five six three seven. Talk
Speaker 2: in taxes this morning, and a lot of great points
Speaker 2: about about certain areas that you may not always think
Speaker 2: about as far as saving and retaining tax documents.
Speaker 1: Let's get into kind of the.
Speaker 2: The realm of retirement account contributions, and of course, as
Speaker 2: retirement plan planners, you're obviously emphasizing saving into things like
Speaker 2: four oh one ks and iras or some sort. Is
Speaker 2: there anything that we should be thinking about relative to
Speaker 2: our retirement accounts that in tax optimization for the mid year?
Speaker 4: There? Eric, absolutely, and I think this is one of
Speaker 4: the simplest ways to reduce your tax liability maximizing contributions
Speaker 4: to a pre tax retirement account. It's really straightforward, it
Speaker 4: comes right out of your paycheck, and you don't even
Speaker 4: need to think about it. And we've talked about this
Speaker 4: on previous shows, but we typically suggest that people focus
Speaker 4: on maximizing the contributions through their employer sponsored retirement plan.
Speaker 4: So I think four oh one K, four oh three B,
Speaker 4: maybe four fifty seven plan. Max out these contributions first,
Speaker 4: and then consider additional retirement account contributions thereafter once you've
Speaker 4: hit that max. But just as a quick reminder, the
Speaker 4: maximum that you can generally contribute as an individual employee
Speaker 4: to a four oh one K or a four oh
Speaker 4: three B or even you know another similar employer sponsored
Speaker 4: retirement plan for twenty twenty five, that limit is twenty
Speaker 4: three thousand, five hundred if you are under the age
Speaker 4: of fifty, or you can contribute thirty one thousand if
Speaker 4: you are over the age of fifty, or you can
Speaker 4: contribute thirty four thousand, seven hundred and fifty dollars if
Speaker 4: you are specifically age sixty, sixty one, sixty two, or
Speaker 4: sixty three. So, given that we're talking about twenty twenty
Speaker 4: five mid year tax hacks and reminders here, we highly
Speaker 4: suggest that you evaluate the amount you are currently contributing
Speaker 4: to your retirement accounts where you work, and then also
Speaker 4: consider increasing these contributions to number one, potentially reduce your
Speaker 4: tax liability for the year and number two saved more
Speaker 4: for the future.
Speaker 2: Really great advice this morning, talking with Eric Schwartz and CJ. Closs,
Speaker 2: our retirement planning professionals from class financial website coss financial
Speaker 2: dot com that's Coss Klaas Financial.
Speaker 1: Of course, you can get to know the team at
Speaker 1: COSS Financial.
Speaker 2: Also listen back to podcasts and one of the things
Speaker 2: you'll notice in the podcast health Savings account. We've talked
Speaker 2: quite a bit about those on previous programs in great depth,
Speaker 2: and of course you can listen to those shows at Clossfinancial.
Speaker 1: Dot com and CJ.
Speaker 2: Speaking of those accounts, there are some tax benefits that
Speaker 2: are becoming more popular with them these days, isn't there.
Speaker 3: Yeah, another great reminder, so if you have a high
Speaker 3: deductible health insurance plan through work or on your own
Speaker 3: that qualifies as an HSA, you should consider making contributions
Speaker 3: to the HSA account. These accounts can typically be established
Speaker 3: at a vendor of your employers choosing, or at your
Speaker 3: local bank if you can show them you qualify it
Speaker 3: to establish one of those those types of accounts. And
Speaker 3: again this is based upon your medical insurance plan and
Speaker 3: whether or not basically the deductible is high enough. Now
Speaker 3: there's other tests that they do to make sure it
Speaker 3: qualifies as an HSA plan, but it's basically our higher deductible.
Speaker 3: So contribution to these plans. Again, just think I've got
Speaker 3: this medical insurance plan with a high deductible and basically
Speaker 3: because that deductible is high enough, the IRS says you
Speaker 3: qualify for this HSA account kind of thing. Often your
Speaker 3: employer will will say, oh, that's through fidelity or whoever,
Speaker 3: and you can just do it through payroll deduction. But
Speaker 3: other times you have to go set this up at
Speaker 3: your local bank and contributions again to these plans are
Speaker 3: tax deductible and they grow tax free and can be
Speaker 3: used tax free for qualified medical expenses. Furthermore, you aren't
Speaker 3: typically required to use all of the money within these
Speaker 3: accounts by the end of the calendar year, so any
Speaker 3: unused amounts in the account can roll over to future
Speaker 3: years and help cover medical related expenses. Now, as a reminder,
Speaker 3: the maximum you can generally contribute to an HSA again
Speaker 3: health savings account in twenty twenty five is four three
Speaker 3: hundred dollars for an individual or eight five hundred and
Speaker 3: fifty dollars for a family. In addition to this, if
Speaker 3: you are over age fifty five, you can contribute an
Speaker 3: extra one thousand dollars as a catchup contribution on top
Speaker 3: of the maximums I just mentioned. Therefore, if you have
Speaker 3: an HSA eligible medical plan, you should consider if you
Speaker 3: have an HSA account open for contributions, along with considering
Speaker 3: trying to max out these contributions in order to reduce
Speaker 3: your taxable income for the year while having a pot
Speaker 3: of money available to cover current and or future medical
Speaker 3: related expenses. So listen, everybody, as it relates to these accounts.
Speaker 3: These are actually one of the most tax preferred account
Speaker 3: structures in the entire IRS Code. Let me repeat that
Speaker 3: HSA accounts are one of the most tax preferred account structures,
Speaker 3: if not the most, that you can establish fund and
Speaker 3: use in the entire IRS Code. And here's why. I
Speaker 3: get a deduction for federal income tax and in many
Speaker 3: circumstances state income tax. I get a deduction when the
Speaker 3: money goes in, I get tax free growth while it
Speaker 3: stays in there, whether it be you know, just earning
Speaker 3: a little bit of interest or a lot of interest,
Speaker 3: and then when I pull the money out, it's tax free.
Speaker 3: I don't pay tax on that. And now the money
Speaker 3: has to come out for medical related expenses. I can't
Speaker 3: just generally use it for anything. There are some rules
Speaker 3: once you get over sixty five that you can pull
Speaker 3: it out like a retirement account. But that's not the
Speaker 3: point of our show today. But here's the idea that's
Speaker 3: that's like unbelievable in the IRS Code. And the reason
Speaker 3: why is typically in it like an IRA, When I
Speaker 3: put money into an IRA pre tax and then it
Speaker 3: grows tax deferred. When I get to retirement and pull
Speaker 3: the money out.
Speaker 1: It's taxable.
Speaker 3: Or conversely, if I do a roth IRA, when I
Speaker 3: put the money in, it's post tax money. I've already
Speaker 3: paid tax on the money, I don't get a deduction,
Speaker 3: and then when I get to retirement it's tax free. Well,
Speaker 3: if you understand what an HSA is, it's the best
Speaker 3: of all of that. I both get the deduction, I
Speaker 3: get the tax free growth, and when I pull it
Speaker 3: out to pay for medical expenses, there's no tax. Okay,
Speaker 3: I get too excited about these things.
Speaker 1: Forgive me for good reason. Yes.
Speaker 3: Bottom line is, if you are eligible for one of
Speaker 3: these things, listen. That means you've got a high deductible plan.
Speaker 3: That means you are going to have expenses that are
Speaker 3: going to pop up that are deductible related expenses. I
Speaker 3: don't know about you, but I'd rather use tax free
Speaker 3: deductible money than post tax money. And the only thing
Speaker 3: I have to do is just like funnel it through
Speaker 3: an HSA account. So hopefully everybody gets the idea. HSA's
Speaker 3: wonderful little you know segment to the of the tax
Speaker 3: Code highly suggests that you use suggest or that you
Speaker 3: set up one of those accounts and make sure you're
Speaker 3: contributing assuming you have an HSA qualifying plan.
Speaker 1: Pretty phenomenal stuff. As we talked this morning with CJ.
Speaker 2: Closs and Eric Schwartz, our retirement planning professionals from Class Financial.
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Speaker 1: Eric. It's always great chatting with both of you, guys.
Speaker 1: Enjoy this beautiful day.
Speaker 4: Thanks Sean.
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