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Speaker 2: Tonight's gathering is Dave Rogers, stick for the creature.

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Speaker 3: Looking back on life.

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Speaker 4: That you leave him then rested home in the crowd,

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stick around through the crate, the feeling, God, the fire,

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you'll be dancing around. Only here is the sound of treating,

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and no one cares where he's coming from.

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Speaker 5: My ears is no ring and feeding. I guess we

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are new from the start.

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Speaker 6: He's on the days. Go you one of these days?

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No be the world.

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Speaker 3: Look at Frances, who what it SASKU?

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Speaker 6: He's on the test. My cost, my.

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Speaker 3: Cost leading, the fuse of the ashes, the spirits.

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Speaker 7: Lad up the.

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Speaker 6: Now the house.

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Speaker 8: We're life from the Untold Radio Network. It's Untold Radio

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Am with Monster Quest producer host Doug Hicheck and co

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host Jeff Pirella Junior. Untold Radio Am is going live

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right now.

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Speaker 2: This show is for entertainment purposes only.

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Speaker 1: Yep, that's the ticket.

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Speaker 2: Now Here are your Untold Radio a m posts, Doug

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high check, Jeff Corella Jr.

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Speaker 9: And here we are live without a Nette.

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Speaker 7: Welcome, mister bearded. Jeff? Are you.

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Speaker 1: God?

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Speaker 7: Is that like what two hours without shaving?

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Speaker 9: Yeah? I shaved this morning.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, I figure anyhow, welcome, everybody, Welcome on Doldians two

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Speaker 9: Live without a net where anything could happen.

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Speaker 7: Yes, it is time for episode three, one hundred and six.

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That's on this warm July evening, very warm and tonight.

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We are heading into the deep woods with guests who's

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become well known in the Bigfoot community for doing things

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just a little different. Now you've met him and I have.

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Speaker 1: Not, so Yeah.

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Speaker 7: Well, he calls himself the Bigfoot preacher and for him

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sasquatch researches and just about footprints and tree knocks or

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eyewitness encounters. It's about faith, purpose and what he believes

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those experiences mean.

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Speaker 10: Him.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, so it should be an interesting conversation at the least.

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Looking forward to having Dave Rogers on.

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Speaker 9: From Arkansas, And by strange coincidence, I was in Arkansas

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a working Yeah, that's what you told me. You told

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me it's hot here. It's even hotter down there.

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Speaker 7: How can it be hotter than it is here?

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Speaker 9: Oh?

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Speaker 7: My god, on there, you feel like you're gonna burst

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Speaker 9: Ye, yeah, it was, it was. It was toasty.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, on Wednesday, it's even gonna be hotter. And I

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have to course work outside all day on Wednesday, which

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is just a joy.

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Speaker 9: Awesome, lucky.

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Speaker 7: Well, No, I mean I like doing it, but it's

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just not in this kind of weather. It's a little whit.

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Speaker 9: I had grand plans of doing yard work yesterday, but

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I stepped outside and said, nope, it's not fun working

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outside like this. Can't get anything done.

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or whatever you're gonna do, definitely enjoy the show. I

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don't really have a whole lot, So I just think

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it's time to tell people to get comfy. Lock their doors,

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double check, make sure they're locked. Lock your windows to

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get your beverage of choice ready. Yes, yes, I'm sure.

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Sure's just plain water.

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Speaker 1: I always accuse me of this is it? I don't

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know why. It's just fun like this water.

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Speaker 7: I've got my my delicious diet ripper, and so if

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button for me. So yeah, I definitely lock the doors,

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dimal lights. Don't forget to do that and stay tuned

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Speaker 9: He was something else man. That was funny.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, I'll never forget those. But he Oh he had

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Speaker 9: That was a pretty good show.

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Speaker 7: You've never watched The Curve.

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it's funny. If well, if you like Seinfeld, do you

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Speaker 9: At good Internet and make sure you're live and not delayed.

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Speaker 7: Yes, so do enough to wait for your answers, right,

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Speaker 11: Yeah it it's time for weird and fast news.

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Speaker 9: Fast and weird, fast and weird, super weird. I've been

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Speaker 1: Here it is.

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Speaker 7: Jeff did all the photography personally, all right. Number one

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scientists turn cockroaches into search and rescue cyborgs. There you go,

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just what yeah, what could happen here? Researchers have developed

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tiny driving suits they call them in electronic backpacks that

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allow cockroaches to crawl through space u is too small

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for humans or robots. The insects can squeeze through collapse

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buildings while carrying sensors that search for survivors after earthquakes

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cyborg roaches could become living search tools, entering dangerous rubble

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where robots often get stuck. So I guess that's a

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good thing. Yeah cool, Actually, yeah, that's just endless supply

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of cockroaches. That's for sure. Well, yeah, but what do

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is a box of cockroaches with these little the cockroach

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Speaker 7: Cockroach wrangler. Well, I don't think we have to worry

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about earthquakes here, do we?

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Speaker 7: All right, then, what we got next? Here? We have

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the Milky Way maybe much bigger than we thought. Astronomers

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have discovered evidence suggesting our milky weight galaxy may actually

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be larger, heavier, and more lopsided than previously estimates that indicated.

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Speaker 9: Really?

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Speaker 7: I want it symmetrical.

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and how it interacts with nearby galaxies. I don't want

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our galaxy interacting with other galaxies.

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Speaker 1: It does, I don't want it to.

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Speaker 9: We're always away from that. But yeah, it's going to happen. Well,

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you know, the takeaway here is what we think we

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know everything and we don't. That's that's been quote settled

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science for a long time.

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Speaker 9: You gotta When anyone ever says the science is settled

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about anything. Science has never settled, changing and growing, and

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the bearded one.

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Speaker 7: Spouts great wisdom. There, It's true.

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Speaker 9: It's the beard.

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Speaker 7: The beard. You look smarter, Jeff, that.

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Speaker 9: Look wiser, wiser. Science never ever ever settled. Anyone that

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Speaker 7: It says this, This is going to potentially change our

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understanding of dark matter and the future collision between the

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Milky Way and the drama Dramaeda galaxy. We don't want

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that to happen for those interesting but to study that collision,

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NASA has built the Skyfall Mars helicopter. Yeah, see how

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I did that. After incredible success of ingenuity, NASA has

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started funding hardware for the next generation Mars helicopter called Skyfall.

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the last thing you want to be and if you

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Speaker 9: I've never been in a helicopter. I've been just what

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Speaker 7: Yeah, so I have I've written in a lot of helicopters. Okay,

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Speaker 9: You've never been I'd like to check one out someday.

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off in dreamland. Future helicopters could scout ahead for astronauts,

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search for caves, signs of ancient life, and dramatically expand

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the amount of Martian terrain scientists can study. Yes, a

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Speaker 7: That's what it's called. That's incredible.

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Speaker 9: It's a if it's gone way beyondest it's design.

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Speaker 9: Just really thin?

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Speaker 7: Well then still, how can you use the helicopter if

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Speaker 9: Thin, really light helicopter with a really big blades. Okay,

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Speaker 1: Next.

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Speaker 7: Next, tiny satellites could detect nuclear weapons in space, and

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would be a that's not a good thing. So scientists

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unique radiation signatures produced by nuclear explosions in space, instead

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events while helping monitor compliance with international treaties obviously ban

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nuclear weapons and orbit. Yep, that what could go wrong

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Speaker 9: Well it actually they actually tested one in orbit. It

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was gosh in the sixties, I want to say, but

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Speaker 7: Don't do that. Listen to the bearded one.

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Speaker 9: He knows.

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Speaker 7: It's at number five. Six giant space balls wash up

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Speaker 9: Took this just this morning.

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Speaker 7: It's a nice picture.

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Speaker 1: Good job.

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Speaker 7: I like the way you captured the sand on the

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on the balls. Beach goers in Queensland, Australia, have stunned

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when six large metallic spheres suddenly washed ashore. Authorities quickly

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closed off the area, fearing there might be hazardous or

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even explosive stuff in these balls, but after investigation, the

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Australian Space Agency. The Space Agency determined the mysterious objects

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were actually rocket pressure vessels. What the hell would those

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do to a rocket?

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Speaker 9: What would these balls?

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Speaker 7: Well, they said, the pressure rocket pressure vessels, Okay, from

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a spacecraft or launch vehicle that survived its fiery plunge

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back through Earth. Experts say the hollow tanks are built

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Speaker 7: Do titanium burn? I don't think so.

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Speaker 9: Really, the titanium is very, very high heat.

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resistant material, allowing them to survive reentry, and they float

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across the ocean for weeks, even months, and eventually wash

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on to the beach where Jeff goes and photographs them

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thousands of miles away. A science is worn that as

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a number of rocket launches continue to increase, strange pieces

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of crap space crap even head that term right, space crap,

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No space crap like these spaceballs could become a much

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more common sight around the.

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Speaker 9: World spaceballs and space crap.

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Speaker 7: And Jeff will be on it. He will be there

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to photograph it number six giantace crap. No, let's more

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downe with that. This is tree crap. Trees have a

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secret way to survive drought. Secret Scientists climbing some of

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the world's tallest trees discovered evidence that giant trees have

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hidden strategies for surviving extended droughts. Their research suggests trees

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can either alter how water moves through their trunks in

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ways scientists had never directly observed. The discovery could help

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researchers better predict which forces are most likely to survive

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future Here we go at the buzzword climate change in

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prolonged dry conditions.

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Speaker 9: Well, and again you think we know everything you lse

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Speaker 1: Nope, nope.

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Speaker 9: Science is always evolving always.

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Speaker 7: And you drew that art that's good from Yeah, that's amazing, Jeff,

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you have a great art talent. It's tough. And while

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you're driving or flying back.

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Speaker 9: From I spent six I spent six hours in the

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Atlanta airport Friday. That's when I did that.

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Speaker 7: They brought you through.

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Speaker 9: That flight was delayed. Yeah, I had a three hour

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lay over. Then the flight was delayed three hours.

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Speaker 7: I spent six You heard that even the Devil has

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to fly through Atlanta. Not a bad airport, but oh

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my god, there was. There was one time I had

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to go to Atlanta alone. I hate flying alone, and

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so I overslept and I get up and it's like

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ten minutes to my flight. You know how far the

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airport is. So I thought, well, I better try, and

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airport and I, believe it or not, the plane was

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late and I made it on the plane ten minutes

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before my flight.

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Speaker 1: I woke up.

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Speaker 7: I made it to Atlanta for my business meeting. But

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that airport is huge.

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Speaker 9: Man, It's a massive airport. And then Monday I was

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in Chicago Airport. So I was in two of the

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biggest airports in the country last week.

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Speaker 7: What's what are the two airports in Chicago? I can't think,

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Speaker 9: I can't remember. Yeah, oh, here's the big one.

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Speaker 7: I had to panhandle one time to get from oh

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Hair to the other airport. Oh really, Yeah, because I

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got robbed on my trip, so have any I had

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no money, had no credit cards, aid nothing, so I

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had a panhandle. I had to panhandle in Turkey to

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get my air fare just to get back to Moscow,

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and somebody helped me from South Africa. Yeah. See, you

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ever had a panandle It's not no, never, It is

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not a fun position to be an all right. Number

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eight astronomers rediscover a silent pulsar. I did, oh jewish?

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Did I ever? Number seven scientists hunt for DNA of

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every living species. You're gonna have to donate a little

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bit of your beard, Jeff. Researchers with the Tree of

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Life Project are working towards one of biology's biggest goals,

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sequencing the DNA of every known species. No, it says

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on Earth. But do I need to say that? Do

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they really need to say? On Earth?

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Speaker 9: Now?

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Speaker 7: Every known species. One recent focus is nearly indestructible, the

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nearly indestructible tartar grade water bears, whose remarkable survival abilities

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continue to amaze scientists. Jeff Scott, I swear to God,

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he's admitted this. He's got two or three water water

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bears living in his beard.

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Speaker 9: I do, yes, they have a little condo.

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Speaker 7: Well, they're hanging on for survival. So it says there,

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I'm going to put a quarter in the jar.

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Speaker 9: What the heck? Kind of.

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Speaker 7: I know, I know, I forget, I forgot. We have

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another quarter. What's one more understanding? Now, Darta grid survived freezing, radiation,

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dehydration in the vacuum of space, and in Jeff's beard

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could someday lead to advances in medicine, biotechnology and law

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in the long duration of space.

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Speaker 1: And more beards.

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Speaker 7: And yeah, well there's dah Tartar grades they say they

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make up like most of the life on Earth, Tartar

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grades do. Yeah, you can't burn them, can't freeze them,

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you can't cook them, you can't eat them, you can't

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anything with them, indestructible. Ah. Next, astronomers rediscover a silent pulsar. Well,

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how can it be a pulsar if it's silent. After

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decades of silence, astronomers have detected radio signals coming from

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the mysterious Blue Eye pulsar. Pulsars are rapidly spinning neutron

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stars that act like giant cosmic lighthouses, sending beams of

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radio waves across space. The unexpected return of these signals

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gives astronomers a rare opportunity to study why some beards

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suddenly switch back. Oh, I'm sorry, sudden why some pulsars

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suddenly switch back on, potentially revealing new clues about some

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of the most extreme extreme objects in the universe. By

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the way, I could grow a beard, it would take

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me about twenty years to get to that level that

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you got to in probably two days.

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Speaker 9: This is actually what a week and a half, two weeks, two.

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Speaker 7: Weeks, two weeks. Well, it would be like forty years

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for me. Oh, let's see here. That's it for the

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weird and slow news. That was kind of slow, wasn't it?

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Speaker 9: And it wasn't that weird either, was it kind of weird?

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I think we should change the title to sort of weird,

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sort of.

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Speaker 7: Fast news, mostly fast, half fast. All right, did anybody

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want to play audience trivia? This is not a contest.

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It is not something you're going to win. You're not

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going to win an until radio ad. But I probably

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will just mail one no charge. I'll just forget to

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put the invoice in the package. That's how it works.

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It'll be an accident, accidental.

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Speaker 9: Tat, not a contest. Nope, So I need a couple

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of volunteers. How about we play a little bump everybody

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a minute to.

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Speaker 7: Well, we got all we got one. We got one.

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Speaker 9: S saga?

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Speaker 7: All right? The guys all right, So I was going on.

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Speaker 9: We're gonna we're gonna call that saga.

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Speaker 1: Where that is?

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Speaker 7: Matter you volunteering or is that a yep? I said

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to say yes, not yep, Matt, between yep and yes?

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Isn't there? Should we just qualify Mac because he said yep?

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Speaker 9: Diane, I probably do my job here. Man, Oh we

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got saga. Matt and Diane. Welcome to the trivia contest.

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The contest.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, so what if you have a what do you

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what are you gonna? You know, player bumper play your

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bumper won't be right back?

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Speaker 9: All right?

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Speaker 7: I like.

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Speaker 2: It's now time for untold Radio a m audience trivia.

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Who wants to play?

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Speaker 7: Did you draw those question marks?

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Speaker 12: Uh?

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Speaker 9: Yeah?

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Speaker 1: To say yes to everything?

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Speaker 7: I sure, just automatically matter what I asked you to say? Yes?

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Speaker 9: Yes?

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Speaker 1: All right?

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Speaker 7: Ah, you guys are ready. How do we want to

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do this? Just the right answer you got? It's there? Yeah,

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just put a letter in. Well, the trivia is on

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the boyal forest Trivia. Well, do you know you're trees

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in US and Canada? So it includes only those two countries.

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Approximately what percentage of Canada's land mass is covered by

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a boreal forest. Is it a eighteen percent, B thirty

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four percent or C sixty percent or D eighty five percent?

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So is it a eighteen B thirty four, C sixty

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or D eighty five? Jeff, you got to score all

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this stuff.

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Speaker 9: I'm not even gonna look Okay, So Sasaga says C

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and then changed D.

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Speaker 1: You can't.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, So that's the immediate fail.

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Speaker 1: It's a fail.

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Speaker 9: That's a fail. Alright, no changing your answer, Dan said C. Well,

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Diane is right, so one point for Diane. Saga was right,

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but you changed your answers.

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Speaker 1: Don't do that.

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Speaker 9: It's one point for Dianay.

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Speaker 7: We can make up the rules as we go.

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Speaker 9: It's not a contest. There's no rules. There are no rules,

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no prizes.

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Speaker 1: No.

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Speaker 7: The bearded one makes them up as we go. The

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arbitrary number two question number two, which the US state

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contains the largest portion of America's boreal forest? Is it

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A Minnesota, B Maine see Alaska, or D Montana Minnesota,

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A B Maine see Alaska or D for Doug Montana.

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Speaker 9: Mm hmm.

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Speaker 7: You where's your music? What the hell?

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Speaker 1: You don't have to if you don't haven't ready.

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Speaker 7: That's just fine. That's just the failure of the director.

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Oh my god, it's a complete failure.

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Speaker 9: So let's see here, bearded one.

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Speaker 7: Has failed to play the trivia music.

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Speaker 9: I'm trying to keep track of.

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Speaker 7: That's fine, I'm just joking. You don't have to.

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Speaker 1: I hate that music.

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Speaker 9: You know, Saga is the only one that is correct,

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see Alaska.

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Speaker 7: All right, so we got Saga now with one.

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Speaker 9: You know, I just occurred to me if we should

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have a trivia team and the name of the team

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can be the fighting tartar grades.

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Speaker 7: I have the fighting tartar grades. Sounds like a songhook

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fighting tartar grades.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 7: All right, So so you're keeping track, I'm not. Don't

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depend on me. I'm just having fun reading the questions.

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Speaker 9: I'm just having what I'm doing.

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Speaker 7: These questions literally fell out of Jeff's beard this morning

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and landed on the paper. All right. Question three, Which

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of these animals is considered one of the signature mammals

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of North America the North American boreal forest. Is that

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A the mountain lion, b the woodland caribou, c desert

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bighorn sheep, or d prong horn antelope, So a mountain lion, B,

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woodland caribou, C desert big range sheep, or D the

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prong orn antelope. And the question is which of those

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animals is considered one of one of So it could

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be a trick question of the signature mammals of the

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North American boreal forest.

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Speaker 1: All right, and.

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Speaker 9: So Saga, Saga said B, waiting on Matt and Diane.

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Speaker 7: So who got it?

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Speaker 9: Said B, waiting on Matt for an answer.

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Speaker 7: I am vera Ax said B right.

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Speaker 9: And Matt said, d well, sorry, Matt, you were wrong.

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It is B. So a point for Saga and a

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Speaker 7: What about very Ax? Oh he's not playing.

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Speaker 9: I'm playing. I got Saga, Matten, I wrote down.

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Speaker 7: Here're not even watching the right people. Loretta got it,

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got it got right. Loretta got it right, Matt, you

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got it wrong. Fr X got it right, says Saga,

474
00:30:10,920 --> 00:30:11,559
got it right?

475
00:30:12,200 --> 00:30:12,599
Speaker 9: All right.

476
00:30:12,880 --> 00:30:18,559
Speaker 7: Number four, Roughly, how much of the world's remaining intact

477
00:30:18,640 --> 00:30:23,680
boreal forest is found in Canada? Is it A eighteen percent,

478
00:30:24,279 --> 00:30:28,599
B thirty five percent, C twenty eight percent, or D

479
00:30:28,839 --> 00:30:32,640
fifty two percent? And the question is, roughly how much

480
00:30:32,680 --> 00:30:36,440
of the world's do you take the whole world's remaining

481
00:30:36,519 --> 00:30:40,680
intact boreal forest is found in Canada. So what percentage

482
00:30:41,079 --> 00:30:46,359
is in Canada of all the forest eighteen thirty five,

483
00:30:46,640 --> 00:30:47,960
twenty eight or fifty two?

484
00:30:50,440 --> 00:30:56,920
Speaker 9: Matt said, A, I can't remember what happens between boreal

485
00:30:56,920 --> 00:30:59,960
and ar boreal. I can't remember. Somebody should know that.

486
00:31:00,559 --> 00:31:04,920
Saga said B and said A, well they managed. All

487
00:31:04,960 --> 00:31:07,759
three have different answers and all three b wrong. That's impressive.

488
00:31:08,079 --> 00:31:09,359
Speaker 7: Oh, that is oppressive.

489
00:31:10,039 --> 00:31:10,440
Speaker 1: It's c.

490
00:31:12,160 --> 00:31:15,960
Speaker 7: Yeah, twenty percent of all of the forests in the

491
00:31:16,119 --> 00:31:19,720
entire world is in Canada, and that's why we like

492
00:31:19,759 --> 00:31:26,440
to go there. That's why there's bigfoots up there Canadia.

493
00:31:27,559 --> 00:31:35,240
Which tree species is not commonly found growing naturally throughout

494
00:31:35,240 --> 00:31:39,160
the boreal forests? Is it a black spruce? That's my

495
00:31:39,279 --> 00:31:43,440
favorite tree, by the way, in the world. B tamarack,

496
00:31:44,200 --> 00:31:50,440
larch and C paper birch or D coastal redwood, which

497
00:31:50,480 --> 00:31:54,920
one is not found growing naturally throughout the boreal forest.

498
00:31:55,599 --> 00:31:59,839
A black spruce, B. Tamarak or they call it larch,

499
00:32:00,519 --> 00:32:04,480
see paper birch, or D coastal redwood, which one is

500
00:32:04,519 --> 00:32:08,319
not part of the boreal forest. Not common.

501
00:32:09,720 --> 00:32:10,319
Speaker 9: All right?

502
00:32:11,079 --> 00:32:14,039
Speaker 7: You should hum them said, since you screwed up on

503
00:32:14,079 --> 00:32:20,240
the did no such thing, you should humm it, scrape

504
00:32:20,240 --> 00:32:23,720
your beard on the on the on the microphone, make.

505
00:32:23,640 --> 00:32:32,359
Speaker 9: The sound okay, all right, Matt, all right, Saga said

506
00:32:32,400 --> 00:32:39,440
D and Diane the answer is D. D the coast

507
00:32:40,319 --> 00:32:43,440
Redwood is not Who said that right? Saga said that right?

508
00:32:43,480 --> 00:32:46,200
So right now, Saga is in the lead with three

509
00:32:46,240 --> 00:32:51,119
points two for Diane and.

510
00:32:50,200 --> 00:32:53,799
Speaker 7: But other honorable mentions even though they're not in the contest.

511
00:32:55,240 --> 00:32:57,000
Speaker 9: Lots about it, Yeah, lots of people go at it right.

512
00:32:57,119 --> 00:33:00,480
Speaker 7: As John Phileas got it right.

513
00:33:00,720 --> 00:33:01,960
Speaker 9: Contest dot come on.

514
00:33:01,920 --> 00:33:07,119
Speaker 7: Texas bigfoot ranger. I knew that is d got it right.

515
00:33:09,119 --> 00:33:13,599
Kenny has got it right. I am a passenger princess

516
00:33:13,640 --> 00:33:19,440
got it right. But the only one that counts is Saga, right,

517
00:33:20,880 --> 00:33:22,119
She's the only one that got right.

518
00:33:22,160 --> 00:33:24,559
Speaker 9: Or he tell you got it right?

519
00:33:24,640 --> 00:33:30,599
Speaker 7: Yeah, okay, number one more and we don't have a tie, right, who's.

520
00:33:30,440 --> 00:33:33,400
Speaker 9: Will it could possibly be? It could possibly be a

521
00:33:33,480 --> 00:33:36,000
tied three? So you got three? Die got two, Matt

522
00:33:36,039 --> 00:33:37,519
got none.

523
00:33:38,119 --> 00:33:40,440
Speaker 7: I got a bonus question on my sleeves, So we're

524
00:33:40,480 --> 00:33:41,599
okay if we have a die?

525
00:33:42,519 --> 00:33:45,200
Speaker 9: Why even contest important?

526
00:33:45,400 --> 00:33:45,839
Speaker 1: Exactly.

527
00:33:45,920 --> 00:33:48,200
Speaker 9: It's not we mentioned that. I can't we mentioned that,

528
00:33:48,240 --> 00:33:48,640
but we should.

529
00:33:48,640 --> 00:33:53,720
Speaker 7: And this is for a brand new untold radio am hat?

530
00:33:54,200 --> 00:33:54,720
Speaker 9: Not really?

531
00:33:54,880 --> 00:33:58,279
Speaker 7: We got to get someone verified crap hats. Yep, we do,

532
00:34:00,039 --> 00:34:03,960
can wear one of them. Why do many scientists call

533
00:34:04,039 --> 00:34:10,599
the boreal forest the Earth's northern lungs? Why do many

534
00:34:10,719 --> 00:34:14,880
scientists call the boreal forests the Earth's northern lungs. A

535
00:34:15,679 --> 00:34:20,280
It produces more oxygen than the Amazon. B. It receives

536
00:34:20,360 --> 00:34:25,599
the most rainfall on Earth. C. It stores enormous amounts

537
00:34:25,639 --> 00:34:30,519
of carbon in its trees, peat lands, and soils, helping

538
00:34:30,639 --> 00:34:35,119
regulate Earth's climate. Or D it has the greatest number

539
00:34:35,159 --> 00:34:41,119
of tree species on the planet. So is it A, B,

540
00:34:41,760 --> 00:34:45,239
C or D? And I'm not repeating those damn answers because.

541
00:34:45,039 --> 00:34:46,320
Speaker 1: There's just too damn long.

542
00:34:47,239 --> 00:34:49,719
Speaker 7: This is the way it's gonna be. Look, So take

543
00:34:49,760 --> 00:34:53,119
a guess if you didn't hear my answers, Yes, A B,

544
00:34:53,280 --> 00:34:55,119
C or D, A.

545
00:34:59,719 --> 00:35:01,239
Speaker 9: Said See he.

546
00:35:01,239 --> 00:35:05,039
Speaker 7: Says, I want to unverified crap t shirt?

547
00:35:05,800 --> 00:35:07,159
Speaker 9: Order one hanger, Go to hanger one.

548
00:35:07,360 --> 00:35:08,199
Speaker 7: Are they available?

549
00:35:08,519 --> 00:35:12,760
Speaker 9: Are I actually ordered a couple from my mom and dad.

550
00:35:12,760 --> 00:35:15,920
Speaker 7: You can just go to the what is it the

551
00:35:16,000 --> 00:35:20,559
Hanger Hanger one website. There's a store too in YouTube,

552
00:35:21,039 --> 00:35:24,400
but it's it's weird. Sometimes they put it up, sometimes

553
00:35:24,400 --> 00:35:24,960
they don't.

554
00:35:25,079 --> 00:35:25,880
Speaker 1: I don't get it.

555
00:35:27,079 --> 00:35:30,880
Speaker 7: But go to the Hanger one Publishing website and you

556
00:35:30,880 --> 00:35:34,679
can buy your unverified crap T shirt. Or you can

557
00:35:34,760 --> 00:35:38,000
wait someday and might be able to well, not win

558
00:35:38,159 --> 00:35:39,800
one in a contest.

559
00:35:40,320 --> 00:35:42,559
Speaker 9: Matt is on the board, Matt is correct.

560
00:35:42,400 --> 00:35:47,840
Speaker 7: Matt, congratulations, Matt mounts of carbon and it's trees, peelers

561
00:35:47,840 --> 00:35:49,760
and soils helping regulate earth climates.

562
00:35:49,760 --> 00:35:52,280
Speaker 9: So Matt, So it's three two one. So the non

563
00:35:52,320 --> 00:35:55,840
winner of this non contest, because it's not a contest,

564
00:35:56,079 --> 00:35:58,960
it's Saga. So I am typing my Uh.

565
00:36:00,239 --> 00:36:06,079
Speaker 7: You didn't win an untold radio am black hat that's embroidered,

566
00:36:07,039 --> 00:36:09,280
did not win it, but we will mail you one.

567
00:36:09,159 --> 00:36:13,440
Speaker 9: Accidentally, accidentally, just accidentally, So Saga, please email me your

568
00:36:14,280 --> 00:36:17,320
real name and mailing address. I'll keep that private, of course,

569
00:36:17,440 --> 00:36:19,960
but need your real name and mailing address. And we

570
00:36:20,000 --> 00:36:22,039
won't send you anything because it wasn't a contest.

571
00:36:22,360 --> 00:36:26,559
Speaker 7: No, well, we will send you something, but you won't

572
00:36:26,599 --> 00:36:28,880
win it, right, and it'll just go in the mail.

573
00:36:29,000 --> 00:36:32,159
I will accidentally forget to put the invoice in there.

574
00:36:32,199 --> 00:36:35,280
Speaker 9: It's a total mistake. I build a totalness. I build

575
00:36:35,320 --> 00:36:37,440
it to Nigerian prince.

576
00:36:37,440 --> 00:36:43,840
Speaker 7: Yes, all right, and then a weird bonus, just a

577
00:36:44,039 --> 00:36:47,039
fact since we didn't have a tie. The Canadian Boil

578
00:36:47,159 --> 00:36:52,719
Forest stretches nearly three thousand, five hundred miles that's five

579
00:36:53,239 --> 00:36:59,400
six hundred kilometers for any Europeans, from Newfoundland to the Yukon,

580
00:36:59,800 --> 00:37:05,440
making it the largest continuous forest on Earth. It stores

581
00:37:05,519 --> 00:37:12,159
more carbon than any other terrestrial ecosystem, with past vast

582
00:37:12,159 --> 00:37:16,679
peat bogs holding carbon that it has accumulated for over

583
00:37:16,719 --> 00:37:20,639
one thousands of years. It's become the home to wolves, lynx, moose,

584
00:37:21,039 --> 00:37:26,039
black bears, grizzlies and wolverines, and billions of migratory birds

585
00:37:26,599 --> 00:37:30,079
every spring. It says it's one of the wildest and

586
00:37:30,280 --> 00:37:36,400
least fragmented forest left on the planet. Very cool. Can't

587
00:37:36,519 --> 00:37:40,559
verify that, though, No, if I can't verify anything, let's

588
00:37:40,599 --> 00:37:45,079
do some Is it fake as funk or something like that?

589
00:37:45,119 --> 00:37:45,719
Speaker 1: What's it called?

590
00:37:46,400 --> 00:37:48,280
Speaker 9: Is it fake as funk?

591
00:37:48,679 --> 00:37:49,519
Speaker 7: I think it's funk.

592
00:37:50,199 --> 00:37:52,480
Speaker 9: It is fun amost almost another word.

593
00:37:52,599 --> 00:37:53,679
Speaker 7: The bearded one knows.

594
00:37:55,880 --> 00:37:57,639
Speaker 9: So we should do that now. That's what you're saying.

595
00:37:57,960 --> 00:38:02,000
Speaker 7: Yes, we should do that now now now is its?

596
00:38:03,280 --> 00:38:04,440
Have we been pumped?

597
00:38:06,199 --> 00:38:06,800
Speaker 3: Is its?

598
00:38:08,119 --> 00:38:17,400
Speaker 7: Have we been pumped? All right? And after this, we're

599
00:38:17,400 --> 00:38:20,360
gonna we're gonna do this just two clips. Then we're

600
00:38:20,400 --> 00:38:22,960
gonna do just five clips of my clip picks, and

601
00:38:23,000 --> 00:38:30,199
then we are going to bring on Shave Dave Rogers.

602
00:38:30,400 --> 00:38:35,960
They have the Sasquatch, the bigfoot preacher. I am excited

603
00:38:36,000 --> 00:38:41,159
to bring him on. I see him in the green room.

604
00:38:41,199 --> 00:38:45,760
All right, clip one, clip one f F You notice

605
00:38:45,840 --> 00:38:49,159
the f F zero number on there? Sound as good?

606
00:38:49,440 --> 00:38:52,880
Are these real U a PS drones? Balloons? Are they

607
00:38:53,000 --> 00:38:57,880
fake or the is it just misidentified fakes? Or just

608
00:38:58,119 --> 00:39:01,079
leave your you know, put your comments in, Chad, put

609
00:39:01,119 --> 00:39:04,719
them in the comments. If you're watching this, if you're

610
00:39:04,719 --> 00:39:06,880
not catching the live show, put them in the comments.

611
00:39:07,159 --> 00:39:11,639
But I do want your opinion. It's a cool clip.

612
00:39:11,800 --> 00:39:12,679
Speaker 1: Yes, no it's not.

613
00:39:12,960 --> 00:39:14,679
Speaker 7: Go ahead and play it.

614
00:39:15,920 --> 00:39:16,719
Speaker 1: The moon's there.

615
00:39:16,760 --> 00:39:18,360
Speaker 9: But there are these things.

616
00:39:19,719 --> 00:39:23,440
Speaker 1: They are just standing.

617
00:39:24,760 --> 00:39:26,159
Speaker 7: I mean they're moving a little bit.

618
00:39:28,159 --> 00:39:29,960
Speaker 1: I have no idea what this is.

619
00:39:33,800 --> 00:39:34,960
Speaker 7: That's similar to the ex.

620
00:39:36,679 --> 00:39:36,920
Speaker 1: Joel.

621
00:39:43,320 --> 00:39:48,679
Speaker 7: All right, that's enough, that's odd. Yeah, So what are

622
00:39:48,719 --> 00:39:52,239
they are they forbs. Are they just balloons?

623
00:39:52,519 --> 00:39:55,960
Speaker 9: I mean probably there's something actually in the sky, but

624
00:39:56,039 --> 00:39:59,079
it's not necessarily anything too terribly exotic.

625
00:39:59,239 --> 00:40:01,320
Speaker 1: Never, what do you think it else?

626
00:40:01,639 --> 00:40:07,360
Speaker 9: Balloons could be thrones? Who else it could be?

627
00:40:07,480 --> 00:40:11,800
Speaker 7: Could be could be living creatures went round without arms

628
00:40:11,880 --> 00:40:16,679
or legs called throbs. Oh, I can't think. I can't

629
00:40:16,719 --> 00:40:23,760
confirm anything. Clip to sound is fine. This is another

630
00:40:23,800 --> 00:40:26,400
one of these clips that people are getting a lot

631
00:40:26,440 --> 00:40:28,800
of this stuff, especially with the new low light cameras

632
00:40:28,800 --> 00:40:32,400
that are coming out. Is this bag as funk?

633
00:40:32,519 --> 00:40:33,320
Speaker 1: Chris? This is real?

634
00:40:33,440 --> 00:40:39,800
Speaker 13: What is look at them all? This is crazy. It

635
00:40:39,960 --> 00:40:52,360
is August and now it's April, April nineteenth, Sunday, April nineteenth.

636
00:40:53,079 --> 00:40:56,079
So beautiful, my friends.

637
00:40:57,639 --> 00:41:03,199
Speaker 7: I always go by the audio incredible. Yeah, it doesn't

638
00:41:03,280 --> 00:41:05,519
mean the audio sounds very sincere. It doesn't sell like

639
00:41:05,599 --> 00:41:08,960
somebody trying to hoax anybody. It's what that you deal with.

640
00:41:09,039 --> 00:41:13,760
AI does the worst stiffest audio you can tell right away.

641
00:41:13,800 --> 00:41:16,199
Speaker 1: So no, it's not that it is odd.

642
00:41:16,679 --> 00:41:19,760
Speaker 7: Yeah, it's odd. I've seen this kind of stuff myself.

643
00:41:20,480 --> 00:41:24,679
All right, that's it. So what do you think? What

644
00:41:24,719 --> 00:41:25,519
do you think, Jeff?

645
00:41:26,280 --> 00:41:28,800
Speaker 9: It's odd? I don't know. What that could be. That's

646
00:41:28,920 --> 00:41:32,880
I mean, I don't know without without me.

647
00:41:34,119 --> 00:41:36,039
Speaker 7: Do you think it's real? It's okay, let's just get

648
00:41:36,119 --> 00:41:37,679
go there first, faker real.

649
00:41:38,360 --> 00:41:41,079
Speaker 9: There's just there's no evidence that it's real. I mean,

650
00:41:41,119 --> 00:41:45,599
there's real. I don't know. It doesn't look that compelling

651
00:41:45,639 --> 00:41:48,159
to me. It just looks odd, just like lights. If

652
00:41:48,159 --> 00:41:50,760
you saw it, you would just say it looked odd. Well,

653
00:41:50,800 --> 00:41:52,239
if I saw it, then I would know at least

654
00:41:52,280 --> 00:41:57,679
something in the sky. But I didn't see it, so

655
00:41:58,000 --> 00:42:01,480
I can't confirm it. I can't all right about you

656
00:42:01,880 --> 00:42:03,000
think I think.

657
00:42:02,880 --> 00:42:05,519
Speaker 7: It's I think it's a real. Clip I've seen stuff

658
00:42:05,599 --> 00:42:08,840
like that myself. I don't know what it would be.

659
00:42:09,800 --> 00:42:11,719
You know, I don't have an orbit in my pocket,

660
00:42:11,800 --> 00:42:15,920
but I've seen these glowing balls of different colors. I

661
00:42:15,960 --> 00:42:18,760
don't know what they are, no idea.

662
00:42:19,239 --> 00:42:22,760
Speaker 9: It's odd, that's for sure. Uh.

663
00:42:24,000 --> 00:42:27,719
Speaker 7: Clip one, let's do. Let's do my picks quick. We

664
00:42:27,800 --> 00:42:29,760
only have six of them.

665
00:42:30,079 --> 00:42:43,280
Speaker 9: We'll get through the yes, please, hey, look at that.

666
00:42:43,360 --> 00:42:45,920
There I am there, you are the bearded one.

667
00:42:46,119 --> 00:42:52,199
Speaker 7: I'll do you get them all to yourself, all right?

668
00:42:52,320 --> 00:42:52,960
Clip one?

669
00:42:53,440 --> 00:42:55,119
Speaker 1: Sound is good.

670
00:42:56,239 --> 00:42:59,639
Speaker 14: Story A Lockheed Martin DARPA engineer also worked at NASA

671
00:43:00,039 --> 00:43:01,159
matured at Bean Durrik.

672
00:43:01,440 --> 00:43:06,480
Speaker 7: Just stop deposit, I was gonna talk about this for

673
00:43:06,519 --> 00:43:07,039
a second.

674
00:43:07,239 --> 00:43:07,920
Speaker 9: I'm sorry.

675
00:43:08,079 --> 00:43:12,719
Speaker 7: This is about UFO. They call it UFO dust particles,

676
00:43:12,960 --> 00:43:17,519
but they've named him smart particles kind of it. I've

677
00:43:17,559 --> 00:43:21,719
never even heard that term smart particles. But apparently they're

678
00:43:21,800 --> 00:43:26,360
studying these small smart particles and they're going to talk

679
00:43:26,400 --> 00:43:30,280
about what they are real quick and the way they

680
00:43:30,320 --> 00:43:32,559
react and so on. So go ahead and play it.

681
00:43:32,559 --> 00:43:34,800
Speaker 9: It's kind of like the ones that the early astronauts reported.

682
00:43:34,880 --> 00:43:36,760
I know Mercury program reported.

683
00:43:36,360 --> 00:43:38,920
Speaker 7: That No, well these are these? Are they have these?

684
00:43:39,360 --> 00:43:42,079
They have these? I mean apparently they can find them

685
00:43:42,119 --> 00:43:45,760
quite quickly, really, but go ahead and claims.

686
00:43:45,800 --> 00:43:45,960
Speaker 1: Now.

687
00:43:45,960 --> 00:43:48,760
Speaker 14: This video is from late twenty twenty four, but just

688
00:43:48,840 --> 00:43:52,840
resurfaced on x. It didn't get like really any attention

689
00:43:53,000 --> 00:43:55,639
at all when it first aired, according at least what

690
00:43:55,719 --> 00:43:59,079
I saw. Now it's been going viral. So is this

691
00:43:59,159 --> 00:44:05,079
guy credit or is he full of shit? Here's his statement.

692
00:44:06,519 --> 00:44:10,920
UFO particles are sort of scattered across Earth, extraterrestrial particles

693
00:44:11,039 --> 00:44:14,800
across Earth. They've been studying them for years, he says,

694
00:44:15,159 --> 00:44:20,280
and these materials can cloak themselves, they can reassemble themselves,

695
00:44:21,199 --> 00:44:25,360
and they can self destruct themselves. And he says they're

696
00:44:25,440 --> 00:44:28,440
intelligent life forms on top of that, not of this earth.

697
00:44:28,480 --> 00:44:32,639
So listen to his audio here of this scientist Richard

698
00:44:32,679 --> 00:44:33,119
Van Derrick.

699
00:44:33,159 --> 00:44:34,760
Speaker 1: Watch very well.

700
00:44:35,239 --> 00:44:37,159
Speaker 12: So then you could collect them every once in a

701
00:44:37,199 --> 00:44:40,079
while and they try analyze them. You could do things

702
00:44:40,119 --> 00:44:44,039
like split them apart. They would attempt to find each

703
00:44:44,079 --> 00:44:47,119
other or reconfigure. Some of the experiments they did was

704
00:44:47,519 --> 00:44:49,199
we took one of those and we put it on

705
00:44:49,239 --> 00:44:52,519
a very hot surface of about three thousand degrees. So

706
00:44:52,519 --> 00:44:54,960
what do we do is it cool the surface around itself,

707
00:44:55,480 --> 00:44:58,239
and then we took the device off and then waited again.

708
00:44:58,480 --> 00:45:00,519
We would find that the mass would be reduced by

709
00:45:00,559 --> 00:45:01,239
a certain amount.

710
00:45:01,480 --> 00:45:04,480
Speaker 7: Did these feel like program materials to you, Richard.

711
00:45:04,880 --> 00:45:07,519
Speaker 15: Yeah, they were, Like I said, they're more intelligient materials.

712
00:45:07,559 --> 00:45:11,880
Like these sub units probably were pretty had computational functionality,

713
00:45:11,960 --> 00:45:14,840
right because they knew what their neighbors were all about,

714
00:45:14,880 --> 00:45:18,039
and they knew they could reprogram themselves to be something different, right,

715
00:45:18,480 --> 00:45:20,159
that they needed to change themselves.

716
00:45:21,039 --> 00:45:23,320
Speaker 7: So these are really curious types of materials.

717
00:45:23,800 --> 00:45:26,480
Speaker 12: So that's how we could kind of tell they were extraterrestrial,

718
00:45:26,519 --> 00:45:29,920
because these things aren't like decades ahead of us, they

719
00:45:29,960 --> 00:45:31,679
were probably hundreds of years ahead of us.

720
00:45:33,440 --> 00:45:35,599
Speaker 7: Hundreds of years ahead of us.

721
00:45:35,840 --> 00:45:37,920
Speaker 14: Hard UFO researcher post.

722
00:45:40,800 --> 00:45:44,559
Speaker 7: Interesting. No, right, yeah, smart particles. You heard it here?

723
00:45:44,639 --> 00:45:53,000
First clip too, sound as good. This is chimps using iPhones.

724
00:45:53,519 --> 00:45:55,280
Speaker 9: Go ahead, what could go wrong?

725
00:45:55,320 --> 00:45:56,239
Speaker 7: There could go wrong?

726
00:46:00,079 --> 00:46:00,320
Speaker 2: Mh.

727
00:46:01,000 --> 00:46:05,639
Speaker 7: They certainly seem like they know what they're doing. Scrolling

728
00:46:05,679 --> 00:46:07,880
through the shots to watch.

729
00:46:11,360 --> 00:46:12,400
Speaker 9: Yeah, that's crazy.

730
00:46:13,079 --> 00:46:14,159
Speaker 1: You pick another.

731
00:46:13,960 --> 00:46:16,920
Speaker 7: Clip, aloon, and then he's here. Now this one's interesting.

732
00:46:16,960 --> 00:46:22,159
I'll watch this one. No, not that one. What's even

733
00:46:22,239 --> 00:46:25,280
not to hanging out with girls on the beach? Oh?

734
00:46:25,440 --> 00:46:26,199
Speaker 5: Touching snakes?

735
00:46:26,199 --> 00:46:30,280
Speaker 7: That's always dangerous?

736
00:46:29,400 --> 00:46:31,159
Speaker 9: Like that one?

737
00:46:34,039 --> 00:46:35,039
Speaker 1: Oh that's you.

738
00:46:36,199 --> 00:46:38,239
Speaker 7: He's got the the chips, got the same look on

739
00:46:38,280 --> 00:46:40,920
his face as his kids have. Go ahead, that's enough,

740
00:46:40,960 --> 00:46:41,599
we got it.

741
00:46:42,400 --> 00:46:44,119
Speaker 9: Wow, that's crazy.

742
00:46:44,840 --> 00:46:49,639
Speaker 7: The same stare to not give your kid an iPhone

743
00:46:49,719 --> 00:46:51,559
or to give your kid an iPhone. That is a

744
00:46:51,599 --> 00:46:56,480
personal decision. I've seen it both ways. My grandkids aren't

745
00:46:56,480 --> 00:47:01,480
allowed to even look at an iPhone, and they're just

746
00:47:01,559 --> 00:47:03,559
the calmest, coolest kids ever.

747
00:47:03,679 --> 00:47:04,280
Speaker 9: But I'm glad.

748
00:47:05,280 --> 00:47:06,880
Speaker 1: I am so I don't.

749
00:47:06,679 --> 00:47:09,519
Speaker 7: Know, it's hard to know. But then I also see

750
00:47:09,679 --> 00:47:13,400
and you know, a nephew and niece that constantly use

751
00:47:13,480 --> 00:47:16,280
them once five years old and he's got a YouTube

752
00:47:16,360 --> 00:47:17,960
channel already, So there you go.

753
00:47:18,519 --> 00:47:21,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know what to think. Uh.

754
00:47:22,079 --> 00:47:26,079
Speaker 7: Clip three. The sound is good. This is another one

755
00:47:26,119 --> 00:47:29,519
of these weird clips. This is Jim comes from Jim Kern.

756
00:47:30,159 --> 00:47:33,599
He's using my favorite camera, the Sony A seven low

757
00:47:33,679 --> 00:47:36,719
light because it's got an io so that goes.

758
00:47:36,639 --> 00:47:39,719
Speaker 1: Up to like five hundred thousand beyond geez really.

759
00:47:39,599 --> 00:47:42,000
Speaker 7: So you can just get down. You can see things

760
00:47:42,000 --> 00:47:43,920
your naked eye cannot see.

761
00:47:43,840 --> 00:47:45,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, here you go.

762
00:47:45,360 --> 00:47:48,480
Speaker 7: Here's a little film sequence from that camera. Go ahead

763
00:47:48,480 --> 00:47:51,480
and watch it. This is what's going on in the

764
00:47:51,519 --> 00:47:59,840
skies that you cannot see. Not a satellite because it's

765
00:47:59,880 --> 00:48:02,960
a on the side of way too fast. Yeah, yeah,

766
00:48:03,000 --> 00:48:06,119
they're too fast, and they're all going different directions, and.

767
00:48:10,440 --> 00:48:11,079
Speaker 1: What are they?

768
00:48:11,480 --> 00:48:13,480
Speaker 7: You know? You know my theory, I have a theory.

769
00:48:13,519 --> 00:48:14,800
I don't know if it's right, but I think there

770
00:48:14,800 --> 00:48:18,400
are living creatures that live in there kind of upper

771
00:48:18,639 --> 00:48:22,159
part of space and the ecosystem that goes from the

772
00:48:22,159 --> 00:48:24,880
ground to three hundred miles up that we've never studied.

773
00:48:25,760 --> 00:48:29,159
Speaker 9: It's like an ecosystem, it is, and it's it's a

774
00:48:29,280 --> 00:48:32,719
huge space. I mean by volume, just a massive, massive,

775
00:48:32,760 --> 00:48:33,440
massive space.

776
00:48:33,760 --> 00:48:33,960
Speaker 1: Yeah.

777
00:48:34,119 --> 00:48:37,599
Speaker 7: I pitched a document I pitched a documentary called space

778
00:48:37,679 --> 00:48:42,320
Space basically about things like this, because there's so many

779
00:48:42,400 --> 00:48:47,360
recordings of weird things in the sky and that look biological,

780
00:48:47,679 --> 00:48:50,039
you know, they don't really necessarily Yeah, a lot of

781
00:48:50,079 --> 00:48:51,760
round ones, but there's a lot of other ones that

782
00:48:51,760 --> 00:48:56,239
aren't around. They look like insects or ocean creatures and

783
00:48:56,280 --> 00:48:58,159
they're zooming around all over out there.

784
00:48:58,400 --> 00:48:59,320
Speaker 1: All right, No for that.

785
00:49:01,480 --> 00:49:03,320
Speaker 7: Have you ever seen yes, enough of that crip. You

786
00:49:03,360 --> 00:49:07,280
ever seen an unstriped zebra? This zebras no z.

787
00:49:09,559 --> 00:49:14,400
Speaker 9: Okay, Wow, they're.

788
00:49:14,159 --> 00:49:15,800
Speaker 1: Like, what the heck?

789
00:49:16,840 --> 00:49:18,800
Speaker 9: It doesn't look like it doesn't look albino.

790
00:49:18,880 --> 00:49:21,840
Speaker 1: It looks uh he has no z.

791
00:49:23,440 --> 00:49:23,519
Speaker 7: Z.

792
00:49:24,320 --> 00:49:25,039
Speaker 1: That's odd.

793
00:49:25,480 --> 00:49:30,400
Speaker 7: Yeah, all right, Clip five. Sound is good and we've

794
00:49:30,440 --> 00:49:34,159
all seen these next creatures. But this will tell you

795
00:49:34,199 --> 00:49:37,119
a little more about them, what they are exactly. And

796
00:49:37,199 --> 00:49:40,599
I always knew the name, but I didn't necessarily know

797
00:49:40,719 --> 00:49:43,360
the history of these little dudes. I'm bit you've seen

798
00:49:43,400 --> 00:49:46,280
these before? Silverfish ever seen this thing?

799
00:49:46,400 --> 00:49:47,719
Speaker 16: Sprint across your books.

800
00:49:48,000 --> 00:49:48,559
Speaker 1: They're tiny.

801
00:49:48,559 --> 00:49:52,480
Speaker 16: That tiny creature was here before the dinosaurs, and it's

802
00:49:52,519 --> 00:49:57,559
still going strong. The silverfish has existed for over four

803
00:49:57,639 --> 00:50:04,199
hundred million years. Zer changes evolution had nothing to fix it.

804
00:50:04,320 --> 00:50:11,119
Eats paper, glue, basically anything containing starch or sugar, and

805
00:50:11,239 --> 00:50:16,400
can survive an entire year without food. When caught, its

806
00:50:16,440 --> 00:50:22,360
scales detached instantly, leaving predators holding nothing but shiny dust.

807
00:50:23,039 --> 00:50:27,039
Same trick still works, survived.

808
00:50:26,559 --> 00:50:32,760
Speaker 7: Every earth and right now, squatch books.

809
00:50:32,840 --> 00:50:40,360
Speaker 9: Right, I've definitely had my house all right.

810
00:50:42,320 --> 00:50:46,239
Speaker 7: No more glass clip sounds good. This is a pretty

811
00:50:46,280 --> 00:50:49,920
common bird barrens. I've seen him quite quite often, but

812
00:50:50,480 --> 00:50:52,719
I don't think I've ever even heard the gulp sound

813
00:50:52,719 --> 00:51:04,760
that they make. Go employ this m that's a sound.

814
00:51:05,639 --> 00:51:08,960
It's so weird, weird. You've seen bitter ends, haven't you.

815
00:51:10,360 --> 00:51:12,159
Speaker 1: Probably they're around.

816
00:51:13,159 --> 00:51:16,480
Speaker 7: They look like a hairn kind of a brown heron

817
00:51:16,519 --> 00:51:20,360
without the long neck. I was on the shore, I

818
00:51:20,480 --> 00:51:22,840
was up on a log and so on. That was

819
00:51:22,880 --> 00:51:25,039
the first bird I learned when I was a kid,

820
00:51:25,199 --> 00:51:27,880
was the bitter in. My dad taught me that.

821
00:51:29,039 --> 00:51:30,800
Speaker 9: I don't remember seeing those, but my dad taught me

822
00:51:30,800 --> 00:51:31,880
a lot of birds. I don't remember.

823
00:51:32,159 --> 00:51:34,320
Speaker 7: That was the first bird I learned the name of it.

824
00:51:35,079 --> 00:51:37,960
All right, Uh, we'll take a quick ad break, and

825
00:51:37,960 --> 00:51:40,360
then we're going to bring on days stupid day.

826
00:51:40,679 --> 00:51:42,519
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827
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831
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839
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Speaker 9: And then we'll talk about the New York beginning.

840
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Speaker 7: Yeah, coming up October second, October third, I will be

841
00:52:58,280 --> 00:53:02,000
speaking there if you want to meet me, poor people,

842
00:53:03,400 --> 00:53:06,840
I will be there, love to meet you, and I

843
00:53:06,880 --> 00:53:10,320
think that there will be a lot of great speakers there.

844
00:53:10,400 --> 00:53:19,000
Derby Ruy Ken Gerhart, Lauren Coleman, doctor Maria Mayer, me myself,

845
00:53:19,079 --> 00:53:22,599
and of course the very famous Adam Davies will be there.

846
00:53:22,639 --> 00:53:26,119
And Steve Calls will be hosting the town hall. That's

847
00:53:26,199 --> 00:53:31,039
free to the public on October second, So there's a

848
00:53:31,039 --> 00:53:35,320
little Barcoe there. Scan it and get your tickets or

849
00:53:35,400 --> 00:53:39,519
just go to New York Bigfoot Conference dot com. And

850
00:53:39,559 --> 00:53:42,840
that is hosted by Loretta Collins and Mark de Worth.

851
00:53:43,480 --> 00:53:47,719
Mark puts on the Ohio the Giant Ohio Bigfoot Conference. Anyhow,

852
00:53:47,719 --> 00:53:51,960
they'll be great hosts. Sokitch. I know it's a little early,

853
00:53:52,079 --> 00:53:54,079
might think God's a little early, but get them because

854
00:53:54,119 --> 00:53:56,639
they will sell out. That's why you need to get

855
00:53:56,679 --> 00:53:57,360
them early.

856
00:53:58,679 --> 00:54:03,719
Speaker 9: Up. Yes, the hotel a probably sell out before the

857
00:54:03,719 --> 00:54:04,519
the tickets sell out.

858
00:54:04,559 --> 00:54:09,280
Speaker 7: So yeah, and it's uh yeah, it's in Johnstown, Gloverville,

859
00:54:09,360 --> 00:54:12,719
so it's in a beautiful area. It's not near New

860
00:54:12,800 --> 00:54:15,599
York City, it's nowhere anywhere that.

861
00:54:15,760 --> 00:54:17,920
Speaker 9: If you've never been to a Bigfoot conference, you definitely

862
00:54:17,960 --> 00:54:20,800
want to stay at the host hotel just because yeah,

863
00:54:20,920 --> 00:54:23,199
there's fun things go on after hours. You want.

864
00:54:23,880 --> 00:54:26,679
Speaker 7: Well, that's also where all of the speakers hang out, right,

865
00:54:26,760 --> 00:54:29,400
they go to and you can meet people.

866
00:54:29,599 --> 00:54:31,800
Speaker 9: A lot of fun in that hotel hang out.

867
00:54:32,079 --> 00:54:36,079
Speaker 7: You can buy Can I get her a Coca cola

868
00:54:37,280 --> 00:54:38,360
or an adult beverage?

869
00:54:38,840 --> 00:54:39,000
Speaker 1: Well?

870
00:54:39,039 --> 00:54:44,880
Speaker 7: Whatever, I don't know, Okay, anyhow, let's see, let's get

871
00:54:44,960 --> 00:54:56,000
to Dave. Dave it's also called Super Dave aka saw Squad.

872
00:54:56,119 --> 00:54:59,679
He's got a lot of names. The Bigfoot Preacher, the Bigfoot,

873
00:55:00,199 --> 00:55:06,920
Spikfoot researcher, does expeditions, He's an evangelist. He's a speaker

874
00:55:08,159 --> 00:55:10,920
known as the Bigfoot Preacher. Dave Rogers, better known as

875
00:55:10,920 --> 00:55:15,480
Super Dave aka Sasquatch, has spent more than fifty two

876
00:55:15,639 --> 00:55:21,880
years experiencing first hand encounters with the unexplained. His journey

877
00:55:21,880 --> 00:55:25,599
began at age eleven with an encounter that changed his

878
00:55:25,760 --> 00:55:31,960
life forever. So for decades he kept those experiences mostly private,

879
00:55:32,039 --> 00:55:36,320
until recently stepping forward to publicly share what he's witnessed

880
00:55:36,559 --> 00:55:40,599
and learned. Today's Super Dave is becoming a well known voice,

881
00:55:42,239 --> 00:55:47,880
a well known voice in the Bigfoot encryptied world, recognized

882
00:55:48,440 --> 00:55:54,280
for his authenticity, Field experienced, bold faith, and powerful storytelling.

883
00:55:54,920 --> 00:55:59,800
He is a self described knower. Dave believes sasquatches, cryptids,

884
00:55:59,840 --> 00:56:04,239
and other unexplained entities are very real and there's a

885
00:56:04,960 --> 00:56:08,079
there's far more to this world than most people realize.

886
00:56:08,679 --> 00:56:11,199
So I'm gonna leave it there and let's introduce.

887
00:56:11,159 --> 00:56:14,000
Speaker 9: All right, let's disclaim him first. We have to disclaim everyone.

888
00:56:14,159 --> 00:56:14,880
Speaker 7: Oh yeah, we do.

889
00:56:31,320 --> 00:56:33,239
Speaker 9: And for the record, I disclaimed myself too.

890
00:56:34,320 --> 00:56:40,480
Speaker 7: You should, you should. All right, let's welcome.

891
00:56:40,599 --> 00:56:42,840
Speaker 9: David there he is.

892
00:56:43,599 --> 00:56:44,599
Speaker 1: Hey, what's up, guys?

893
00:56:45,000 --> 00:56:48,159
Speaker 7: I didn't I thought that was maybe I could see

894
00:56:48,159 --> 00:56:51,400
it back there, but you were holding so still Dave. Now,

895
00:56:55,039 --> 00:56:58,239
I was like, is okay, is that a banner of Dave?

896
00:56:58,440 --> 00:56:59,320
Speaker 17: Or is that real?

897
00:56:59,480 --> 00:56:59,679
Speaker 1: Dave?

898
00:57:00,679 --> 00:57:02,559
Speaker 7: You fooled me. I swear to god, I thought it

899
00:57:02,599 --> 00:57:04,840
was a banner. You've never seen somebody so still in

900
00:57:04,920 --> 00:57:08,679
my life. Anyhow, David's really nice to meet you. I

901
00:57:08,679 --> 00:57:10,440
wished I would have had a chance to talk to

902
00:57:10,440 --> 00:57:13,960
you before the show, but we'll get together. We'll get

903
00:57:13,960 --> 00:57:20,559
to know you now. So so anyhow, I don't know.

904
00:57:20,639 --> 00:57:22,920
I mean, probably the wird I'd like to start is

905
00:57:22,960 --> 00:57:26,119
to hear about what happened to you at eleven, which

906
00:57:26,159 --> 00:57:27,400
got you interested in this.

907
00:57:28,119 --> 00:57:37,239
Speaker 1: That was a crazy story. We lived in Saginaw, Arkansas

908
00:57:37,320 --> 00:57:40,920
is where it was at, and I think it was

909
00:57:41,000 --> 00:57:44,239
like population of fourteen nine was in our family. You know.

910
00:57:44,280 --> 00:57:47,199
It was a one road town, that was it. We

911
00:57:47,360 --> 00:57:51,000
lived closer to the Washtaw River and what we called

912
00:57:51,039 --> 00:57:55,719
the Saginaw Eddy Bottoms, and we had the Washtall River

913
00:57:55,760 --> 00:57:58,280
that come in there and every afternoon they let the

914
00:57:58,360 --> 00:58:02,039
damn out water come up and seek back up in

915
00:58:02,119 --> 00:58:04,760
the buyous and whatnot. So I was just a.

916
00:58:04,679 --> 00:58:07,320
Speaker 17: Little country kid, you know. We grew up poor.

917
00:58:08,679 --> 00:58:11,239
Speaker 1: You know, hunt fish trapped, you know, whatever I could

918
00:58:11,239 --> 00:58:16,039
do to not I mean to make money for bullets,

919
00:58:16,280 --> 00:58:21,400
you know, and stuff like that in traps trap I

920
00:58:21,400 --> 00:58:23,880
mean for my trap lines all that kind of stuff.

921
00:58:23,920 --> 00:58:28,559
So I just hunt fish trap. House wouldn't really my home,

922
00:58:28,679 --> 00:58:31,239
wasn't really safe for me to be there, especially when

923
00:58:31,280 --> 00:58:34,079
my dad wasn't there. So that put me outside all

924
00:58:34,119 --> 00:58:36,360
the time, which which was good. I can see it

925
00:58:36,360 --> 00:58:42,440
as a good thing now. So a lot led up

926
00:58:42,480 --> 00:58:54,239
to my first encounter. It was late in November October

927
00:58:54,360 --> 00:58:58,239
when trap season opens here in Arkansas. So I'd run

928
00:58:58,320 --> 00:59:00,440
my little trap lines, and my grandpa to me how

929
00:59:00,440 --> 00:59:03,440
to make uh some trap bake. And what you did

930
00:59:03,639 --> 00:59:06,719
was in the spring, you caught you know, small fish, whatnot,

931
00:59:06,840 --> 00:59:09,039
cut them up, you know, don't take the guts out

932
00:59:09,079 --> 00:59:10,800
of them. Cut them up as long as you can

933
00:59:10,840 --> 00:59:13,440
get them in a little pot mason jar. You're good.

934
00:59:13,599 --> 00:59:15,840
Just pack it full of twist the lid, bury it,

935
00:59:16,039 --> 00:59:18,559
bury it in the hole and and and cover it

936
00:59:18,639 --> 00:59:22,920
up until fall. Well, this stuff was pretty ripe when

937
00:59:22,960 --> 00:59:28,119
you when you uh, you know, dug it up the least,

938
00:59:28,159 --> 00:59:32,400
but it was good trap bake. And uh so I

939
00:59:32,440 --> 00:59:36,679
started my trap line, and I noticed that my traps

940
00:59:37,159 --> 00:59:42,920
were being ah uh, something was sticking either sticks in

941
00:59:43,000 --> 00:59:45,320
them or ripping them up out of the ground.

942
00:59:45,760 --> 00:59:47,960
Speaker 17: I'd have them chained to a lug. The chain would

943
00:59:47,960 --> 00:59:48,440
be bro.

944
00:59:48,760 --> 00:59:50,719
Speaker 1: So it's a lot that led up to this this

945
00:59:50,800 --> 00:59:53,000
one one encounter. You know.

946
00:59:53,079 --> 00:59:55,519
Speaker 17: Of course, back then, we didn't know what a whoop was.

947
00:59:55,599 --> 00:59:58,039
Speaker 1: We didn't know what a scream, you know, a tree

948
00:59:58,079 --> 01:00:05,599
knock anything uh like that. And it was spring squirrel season.

949
01:00:06,159 --> 01:00:08,559
And I remember getting up that morning, it was Saturday morning,

950
01:00:08,800 --> 01:00:13,559
and I got had breakfast with my dad. He had

951
01:00:13,599 --> 01:00:16,039
to work on a Saturday. So I grabbed my thirty

952
01:00:16,320 --> 01:00:18,639
my zip code thirty three in my little small talk

953
01:00:18,679 --> 01:00:22,239
of tackle box with some blures in it whatnot, and

954
01:00:22,679 --> 01:00:27,639
my single shot twenty two rifle. And so when after

955
01:00:27,760 --> 01:00:32,480
Dad left, I started heading down there. And I remember

956
01:00:32,519 --> 01:00:36,440
telling my dad a year prior to this, you know, hey, Dad,

957
01:00:36,440 --> 01:00:39,639
there's something down there making noise and it sounds like

958
01:00:39,679 --> 01:00:44,880
something hitting on some trees or something. And he tried

959
01:00:44,920 --> 01:00:47,400
to convince me that it was a bear. All it

960
01:00:47,519 --> 01:00:50,719
is is a bear's son. But back then, we didn't

961
01:00:50,760 --> 01:00:55,000
have bears that south in Arkansas. We do now, there's

962
01:00:55,039 --> 01:00:57,519
plenty of bear down there now, but there wasn't bears

963
01:00:57,559 --> 01:00:58,039
back in then.

964
01:00:58,079 --> 01:00:59,480
Speaker 17: So I wouldn't. I wouldn't.

965
01:00:59,880 --> 01:01:04,880
Speaker 1: I wasn't convinced it was a bear, and but Dad was.

966
01:01:05,119 --> 01:01:09,840
And it wasn't until I found my first, my first

967
01:01:09,840 --> 01:01:12,679
set of prints. There was only two of them coming

968
01:01:12,760 --> 01:01:16,840
up out of the bayou there, and they were fourteen

969
01:01:16,880 --> 01:01:19,679
inches long. They were kind of narrow, fourteen inches long,

970
01:01:19,920 --> 01:01:23,559
but they only had three toes, which I found very interesting.

971
01:01:24,800 --> 01:01:27,239
And I finally taught my dad into, you know, just

972
01:01:28,000 --> 01:01:29,960
pleading with him, you know, hey, come down here, look

973
01:01:30,000 --> 01:01:32,880
at this. This ain't no bear track. Come look and

974
01:01:33,000 --> 01:01:37,239
finally went with me, and he looked at it and says, no, son,

975
01:01:37,320 --> 01:01:39,880
this ain't no bear. He said, you need to keep

976
01:01:39,880 --> 01:01:42,840
your butt out of the woods. Well, that particular, in

977
01:01:42,880 --> 01:01:45,639
that particular area, that was my best squirrel hunting spot

978
01:01:45,760 --> 01:01:49,519
and my best fishing hole because it was a spring red,

979
01:01:50,079 --> 01:01:54,039
spring fed creek that run back into Bayou that the

980
01:01:54,119 --> 01:01:56,800
Washtaw River would come up and it would always fill

981
01:01:56,880 --> 01:01:59,960
up with water and I play Sarah usedell catch him

982
01:02:00,039 --> 01:02:04,159
big hand sized perch. So I wasn't giving up my

983
01:02:04,559 --> 01:02:10,239
fishing hole or uh my squirrel hunting spot. So when

984
01:02:10,239 --> 01:02:12,360
I got up that morning Dad's left, he told me

985
01:02:12,400 --> 01:02:14,280
ought to go back down there. He'd tear my butt up.

986
01:02:14,360 --> 01:02:16,400
Speaker 17: I ended up getting my butt tore up over it.

987
01:02:17,239 --> 01:02:21,199
Speaker 1: But when I left that morning, I went by the

988
01:02:22,480 --> 01:02:24,639
stove and grab a couple of biscuits it was left

989
01:02:24,639 --> 01:02:27,920
over for breakfast. And then you know, being poor, we

990
01:02:28,000 --> 01:02:31,400
killed hogs every year, you know, so we we didn't

991
01:02:31,480 --> 01:02:33,679
waste nothing on a hog. So you co'd have the

992
01:02:33,760 --> 01:02:37,360
cracklings and the porch skin. So I grabbed some of

993
01:02:37,400 --> 01:02:39,679
those stuff to be in my pocket and out the

994
01:02:39,719 --> 01:02:43,960
door I went but when I when I left the house,

995
01:02:44,079 --> 01:02:46,239
there's a big long set of woods over here to

996
01:02:46,320 --> 01:02:47,719
this side, and you got to go all the way

997
01:02:47,719 --> 01:02:50,159
across the pasture. He'd get to the backside of the woods.

998
01:02:51,280 --> 01:02:54,639
And I remember that morning I had I had just

999
01:02:54,840 --> 01:02:57,440
you know, I don't know if it's premonition or what,

1000
01:02:57,719 --> 01:03:01,079
but I just had a bad feeling about that morning.

1001
01:03:01,639 --> 01:03:04,119
Speaker 17: But have my fishing pole, have my gun, and I

1002
01:03:04,159 --> 01:03:04,599
just want.

1003
01:03:04,440 --> 01:03:08,239
Speaker 1: To trucking across that pastor there, and I noticed that,

1004
01:03:08,519 --> 01:03:11,119
you know, you could always hear like the crows.

1005
01:03:11,199 --> 01:03:14,559
Speaker 17: You could hear, you know, blue jays. We had a

1006
01:03:14,559 --> 01:03:15,320
lot of blue.

1007
01:03:15,159 --> 01:03:18,840
Speaker 1: Jays down there, which I don't I can't even remember

1008
01:03:18,880 --> 01:03:22,280
the last time I saw any blue jays. But you'd

1009
01:03:22,320 --> 01:03:25,239
hear the crows, you hear blue jays, mocking birds, you know,

1010
01:03:25,320 --> 01:03:27,760
squirrels would be barking at me coming across that field.

1011
01:03:28,280 --> 01:03:32,960
And there was nothing, absolutely nothing. It was just quiet, yeah,

1012
01:03:33,039 --> 01:03:36,800
extremely quiet. I'd never heard the woods go that quiet

1013
01:03:36,840 --> 01:03:40,960
like that before maybe a short period of time. You know,

1014
01:03:41,079 --> 01:03:43,599
when I was out squirrel hunting, I felt, you know that,

1015
01:03:44,559 --> 01:03:49,400
you know, I could feel that there was something maybe

1016
01:03:49,440 --> 01:03:53,280
watching me. It something wasn't right, but it was always

1017
01:03:53,440 --> 01:03:56,800
over just pretty quick in the woods go back to normal.

1018
01:03:57,639 --> 01:03:59,639
Of course, I didn't know back then, being a little kid,

1019
01:03:59,639 --> 01:04:06,039
that was a sign that pretors predators was in the vicinity.

1020
01:04:06,239 --> 01:04:08,480
So when I got up to the fence, I kind

1021
01:04:08,480 --> 01:04:09,960
of stopped right there, and I had to go through

1022
01:04:09,960 --> 01:04:12,360
this barb bar fence at the edge of the woods,

1023
01:04:13,320 --> 01:04:16,400
and I just it was like, man, I don't know

1024
01:04:16,440 --> 01:04:18,880
if I need to go back down there. I don't know.

1025
01:04:18,960 --> 01:04:22,079
I just had a real uneasy feeling, and so I

1026
01:04:22,159 --> 01:04:23,960
kind of stood there for a few minutes, and there

1027
01:04:24,039 --> 01:04:26,800
wasn't nothing, you know, you could barely hear the wind

1028
01:04:26,840 --> 01:04:29,400
blowing that morning, there's a little mist in the air.

1029
01:04:31,159 --> 01:04:34,679
And so I went ahead and put my gun down

1030
01:04:34,679 --> 01:04:36,880
on the ground, my tackle box and stuff. I crawled

1031
01:04:36,880 --> 01:04:39,480
through the fence and then picked them back up, and

1032
01:04:39,519 --> 01:04:43,239
then I started stealthily walking through the woods, which there

1033
01:04:43,320 --> 01:04:45,800
was a lot of pine trees, so it's pine needles

1034
01:04:45,800 --> 01:04:48,199
on the ground, so you could sneak through the woods

1035
01:04:48,199 --> 01:04:52,800
real quiet, and usually by halfway I've already got four

1036
01:04:52,840 --> 01:04:56,719
or five squirrels, and I ain't saw there none. And

1037
01:04:56,760 --> 01:04:59,599
so I sat down next to my back to a

1038
01:04:59,639 --> 01:05:02,199
pine about halfway down there, and I just kind of

1039
01:05:02,199 --> 01:05:03,920
sit there, and I just had this.

1040
01:05:04,000 --> 01:05:06,239
Speaker 17: Real uneasy feeling, and it wouldn't know.

1041
01:05:06,400 --> 01:05:11,239
Speaker 1: I mean, the thing that I got, uh, I'll never

1042
01:05:11,280 --> 01:05:15,119
forget about this encounter was the lack of noise in

1043
01:05:15,159 --> 01:05:20,599
the woods. And so I ate a bescuit some porch

1044
01:05:20,639 --> 01:05:23,760
skins and got back up, got over to the where

1045
01:05:23,760 --> 01:05:25,760
the creek is. Because the creek ran right into that

1046
01:05:25,920 --> 01:05:27,920
spot right there when it ran into the bayou, that

1047
01:05:27,960 --> 01:05:30,840
was the best place to fish. And so I started

1048
01:05:30,880 --> 01:05:34,280
slipping down there. Well, two weeks earlier there was a

1049
01:05:34,440 --> 01:05:39,440
tornader come through there and knocked a bunch of big

1050
01:05:39,480 --> 01:05:42,480
trees down, and one of my best, big old oak

1051
01:05:42,519 --> 01:05:46,079
trees fell over the creek. So on the other side

1052
01:05:46,239 --> 01:05:48,079
was the tree, and on this side was nothing but

1053
01:05:48,199 --> 01:05:52,039
the top heads of the tree. So I've got my

1054
01:05:52,119 --> 01:05:54,400
head on the swim. Well, I'm looking back and forth,

1055
01:05:54,559 --> 01:05:57,840
you know, not like I normally do, because usually I

1056
01:05:57,880 --> 01:06:00,760
go through the woods real quiet. I'm looking with my eyes,

1057
01:06:00,800 --> 01:06:04,400
but my head's on a swivel. And so when I

1058
01:06:04,440 --> 01:06:06,960
got to that tree, I couldn't just gone down the bank.

1059
01:06:07,039 --> 01:06:10,280
So I come off to my left and went around

1060
01:06:10,320 --> 01:06:13,360
the big tops of that tree. And I'm looking, you know,

1061
01:06:13,679 --> 01:06:16,280
I see the river over I see the bayou over here.

1062
01:06:16,639 --> 01:06:20,840
I can hear the water running into the bayou. And

1063
01:06:20,920 --> 01:06:23,440
I started coming up the other side of that tree

1064
01:06:23,840 --> 01:06:26,599
and it's kind of like a little embankment there, and

1065
01:06:26,639 --> 01:06:28,800
I'm looking around. I'm looking in the tops of the tree.

1066
01:06:28,840 --> 01:06:30,960
I thought I heard something in the top of the tree.

1067
01:06:31,280 --> 01:06:33,440
So I'm looking over this way. And as I come

1068
01:06:33,519 --> 01:06:35,639
up to the top and I just want to look

1069
01:06:35,719 --> 01:06:39,960
back straight and there he was. He was standing in

1070
01:06:40,079 --> 01:06:45,159
about knee deep water, excuse me, about knee deep water,

1071
01:06:45,679 --> 01:06:48,039
and his hand was doing like this in the water

1072
01:06:48,280 --> 01:06:50,760
down here. His right hand was kind of fiddling with

1073
01:06:50,880 --> 01:06:57,119
the water, pitching it a little bit, and uh, he

1074
01:06:57,320 --> 01:07:00,400
just kind of you know, we saw each other basically

1075
01:07:00,480 --> 01:07:03,599
about the same time. He was as startled as I was.

1076
01:07:04,039 --> 01:07:07,960
So this wasn't you know, something that was we planned

1077
01:07:07,960 --> 01:07:10,320
to meet here at this time and such like that.

1078
01:07:10,400 --> 01:07:13,400
Speaker 17: Because his mouth was open and so was mine.

1079
01:07:14,239 --> 01:07:17,079
Speaker 1: Then he started he looked like kind of like he smiled,

1080
01:07:17,119 --> 01:07:19,280
but he was clicking his teeth real fast at me,

1081
01:07:19,440 --> 01:07:23,920
just clicking his teeth at me real quick. And I

1082
01:07:23,920 --> 01:07:26,039
couldn't see his eyes because his hair was hanging down

1083
01:07:26,079 --> 01:07:27,920
the face, and he had like six inch of hair,

1084
01:07:28,039 --> 01:07:30,880
black hair all over, and it was kind of matted

1085
01:07:30,960 --> 01:07:33,719
back here on the back of his arms and and

1086
01:07:33,840 --> 01:07:36,400
kind of like down his legs. But I'm I'm focused

1087
01:07:36,480 --> 01:07:39,480
right there on the head and I could I could

1088
01:07:39,480 --> 01:07:43,920
see that stuff in my peripheral vision. And he drawed

1089
01:07:43,960 --> 01:07:47,280
back and led out the screen. Now this screen, guys,

1090
01:07:48,960 --> 01:07:53,840
it went right through me. I mean it vibrated everything

1091
01:07:55,320 --> 01:07:59,440
inside of me, of course, you know, it vibrated my chest.

1092
01:07:59,519 --> 01:08:05,679
I could literally feeled that sound hitting me in the chest,

1093
01:08:06,719 --> 01:08:09,280
and it, like I said, it vibrated everything inside of me.

1094
01:08:09,320 --> 01:08:12,679
Of course, it hit my bladder and a young kid,

1095
01:08:12,760 --> 01:08:15,159
you know, Uh, that bladder cut loose. I didn't have

1096
01:08:15,199 --> 01:08:18,760
no choice in that. And you know, I was petrified.

1097
01:08:18,800 --> 01:08:22,800
Everything in my head was telling me to run, but

1098
01:08:23,039 --> 01:08:27,399
my feet seemed to be semented to the ground. It's

1099
01:08:27,479 --> 01:08:29,319
it's kind of like you know when you get in

1100
01:08:29,399 --> 01:08:32,640
a gunfight. Uh. I don't know if you guys ever

1101
01:08:32,680 --> 01:08:35,479
been in a gunfight or not, but it's like kind

1102
01:08:35,520 --> 01:08:38,760
of like combat. It just everything just kind of just

1103
01:08:39,760 --> 01:08:42,600
went into slow mode, and everything back here in my

1104
01:08:42,720 --> 01:08:46,279
eyes just kind of darkened, and the only thing. The

1105
01:08:46,319 --> 01:08:48,920
only focus I had was on the target before me,

1106
01:08:49,560 --> 01:08:52,199
and it's like my ears started closing down. It got

1107
01:08:52,279 --> 01:08:54,319
real quiet, and you can hear a little hum in

1108
01:08:54,399 --> 01:08:59,439
my ears. And then he reached back with his left

1109
01:08:59,479 --> 01:09:03,479
hand and come by and he scooped up a bunch

1110
01:09:03,560 --> 01:09:06,199
of water with that hand and just threw it over

1111
01:09:06,399 --> 01:09:08,920
on me. So that tells you when when that water

1112
01:09:09,039 --> 01:09:11,399
hit my face number one, to tell you how close

1113
01:09:11,439 --> 01:09:13,960
he was. But also when that water hit my face,

1114
01:09:14,039 --> 01:09:17,640
everything went pou, you know, and my legs started working.

1115
01:09:18,000 --> 01:09:21,159
And and instead of going around the treetop, I shot

1116
01:09:21,399 --> 01:09:26,399
through the top lot. I dropped my uh tackle box

1117
01:09:26,439 --> 01:09:27,439
and my fishing pole.

1118
01:09:27,680 --> 01:09:30,119
Speaker 17: Didn't even know it. All I wanted to do.

1119
01:09:30,159 --> 01:09:33,479
Speaker 1: Is get get away from this thing. I had my rifle,

1120
01:09:33,640 --> 01:09:36,920
twenty two rifle in my hand, but uh, you know,

1121
01:09:38,319 --> 01:09:40,119
I didn't even I didn't even remember having it in

1122
01:09:40,159 --> 01:09:42,560
my hand. I ripped through the top of that tree,

1123
01:09:43,000 --> 01:09:45,720
through the bars and everything. When I got to the

1124
01:09:45,800 --> 01:09:48,720
to the barb wire fence, I just slid my gun

1125
01:09:48,800 --> 01:09:50,880
under it real quick. As I was running. I dove

1126
01:09:50,960 --> 01:09:53,239
through the fence. Of course, I caught bob wires on

1127
01:09:53,279 --> 01:09:57,279
my back and my belly and stuff, picked up my

1128
01:09:57,319 --> 01:09:59,560
gun and I ran so hard, so hard across that

1129
01:09:59,600 --> 01:10:01,960
pasture getting back to the house. But when I got

1130
01:10:02,000 --> 01:10:04,840
back to the house, I collapsed, you know. And when

1131
01:10:04,840 --> 01:10:07,680
I when I fell, it knocked the wind out of me.

1132
01:10:08,039 --> 01:10:10,520
And my grandpa was coming out from milking the cows

1133
01:10:10,560 --> 01:10:13,760
because he had two gallon ten cans in his in

1134
01:10:13,800 --> 01:10:16,640
his hands. He usually what we called the milk buckets,

1135
01:10:17,439 --> 01:10:19,239
and he come walking over to me. He said, boy,

1136
01:10:19,279 --> 01:10:21,439
what's wrong with you? And you see I couldn't I

1137
01:10:21,439 --> 01:10:25,960
couldn't hardly talk. I was I was just jacked up. Uh,

1138
01:10:26,159 --> 01:10:29,399
just petrified, scared, and uh he seen I didn't have

1139
01:10:29,439 --> 01:10:31,359
no breath, so he grabbed my belt and pulled it

1140
01:10:31,439 --> 01:10:33,039
up in the center and kind of arked me up

1141
01:10:33,039 --> 01:10:33,520
a little bit.

1142
01:10:33,600 --> 01:10:36,399
Speaker 17: I caught my breath immediately, and.

1143
01:10:36,199 --> 01:10:38,520
Speaker 1: I was like, Grandpa, there's a monster in them woods.

1144
01:10:38,520 --> 01:10:41,159
There's a monster in there was And he said, boy,

1145
01:10:41,279 --> 01:10:43,560
I've been telling you because I told my grandpa and

1146
01:10:43,600 --> 01:10:46,720
he believed me that there was something else besides a bear.

1147
01:10:47,199 --> 01:10:50,239
And my grandpa called it a haint and he said, boy,

1148
01:10:50,239 --> 01:10:52,000
there's a haint down there. I told you that haint

1149
01:10:52,119 --> 01:10:53,800
was going to run off with you. If you keep

1150
01:10:53,840 --> 01:10:56,600
being down there, you need to pay out in them woods.

1151
01:10:57,000 --> 01:11:00,760
And what I didn't realize, but after my first encounter

1152
01:11:01,079 --> 01:11:07,439
with that sucker, that rascal, my grandpa started sharing his

1153
01:11:08,199 --> 01:11:11,800
encounters that he had growing up with the big guys.

1154
01:11:12,399 --> 01:11:15,439
And he was a treetopper in Idaho, which was one

1155
01:11:15,439 --> 01:11:17,680
of the most dangerous jobs you could have had back then.

1156
01:11:18,000 --> 01:11:20,000
Of course, that was in the days a chainsaw. He

1157
01:11:20,079 --> 01:11:22,239
was born in nineteen oh two, so it gives you

1158
01:11:24,520 --> 01:11:26,960
about where his age was. But he said he would

1159
01:11:27,000 --> 01:11:30,359
see them things, watching them through the trees and stuff.

1160
01:11:30,399 --> 01:11:32,439
When he was at the top of those trees up

1161
01:11:32,479 --> 01:11:37,000
in Idaho, and he said, one guy got I don't

1162
01:11:37,000 --> 01:11:40,079
know if he got boogered up or got scared, or

1163
01:11:40,600 --> 01:11:44,640
you know, just decided to pop a shot at one.

1164
01:11:45,520 --> 01:11:47,720
Grandpa never told me if he hit it or not.

1165
01:11:48,880 --> 01:11:52,920
But that night there was about eight to ten of

1166
01:11:52,960 --> 01:11:56,039
them come into camp and toward the camp all the pieces,

1167
01:11:56,359 --> 01:11:58,159
and the only guy that got hurt was the guy

1168
01:11:58,279 --> 01:12:02,199
pulled the trigger. Tells me that, you know, there's some

1169
01:12:02,279 --> 01:12:07,439
intelligence there. If they knew exactly what guy what tent

1170
01:12:07,640 --> 01:12:10,119
he was in to be able to get him, they

1171
01:12:10,119 --> 01:12:11,840
threw him up against tree. They had to haul him

1172
01:12:11,840 --> 01:12:18,079
out in the wagon to a to the hospital. But

1173
01:12:19,520 --> 01:12:23,079
that first one I saw he was Another thing about

1174
01:12:23,079 --> 01:12:26,279
that siding. He was different from from most of the

1175
01:12:26,319 --> 01:12:29,560
sightings that I've had across my life. Are encounters that

1176
01:12:29,600 --> 01:12:33,000
I've had across my life. This one, he wasn't real

1177
01:12:33,079 --> 01:12:33,880
big and bulky.

1178
01:12:33,960 --> 01:12:34,760
Speaker 17: Now he was big.

1179
01:12:34,840 --> 01:12:39,840
Speaker 1: He was tall. I'd estimate he was probably seven and

1180
01:12:39,840 --> 01:12:43,239
a half day feet tall, but he's built more like

1181
01:12:44,239 --> 01:12:45,199
basketball player.

1182
01:12:45,560 --> 01:12:47,680
Speaker 17: He wasn't one of these big.

1183
01:12:47,439 --> 01:12:49,840
Speaker 1: Broad hulk hulkster.

1184
01:12:49,680 --> 01:12:53,039
Speaker 17: Top that I have seen. I mean, he was kind

1185
01:12:53,039 --> 01:12:53,600
of slim.

1186
01:12:53,680 --> 01:12:54,000
Speaker 9: He was.

1187
01:12:54,159 --> 01:12:57,520
Speaker 1: He did have a built to him, but he was slim.

1188
01:12:57,840 --> 01:13:01,000
I noticed that he did have a beard mustache. The

1189
01:13:01,119 --> 01:13:04,319
thing about this one here that was so unique, besides

1190
01:13:04,359 --> 01:13:06,119
it's scaring the crap out of me and making me

1191
01:13:06,560 --> 01:13:09,359
scared of the dark till I was eighteen. It's not

1192
01:13:09,399 --> 01:13:11,119
that I wasn't scared of the dark. I knew I

1193
01:13:11,159 --> 01:13:18,920
was in the dark now. But this guy, I don't

1194
01:13:18,960 --> 01:13:24,319
know if he was either a hybrid or possibly a

1195
01:13:24,319 --> 01:13:29,840
feral human. I don't know which, But with that height,

1196
01:13:30,800 --> 01:13:33,319
with six inches of hair over him, which you could

1197
01:13:33,359 --> 01:13:35,479
see kind of through his hair and see he didn't

1198
01:13:35,520 --> 01:13:38,800
have much hair here. He did have a beard. He

1199
01:13:38,840 --> 01:13:42,079
had a mustache that went that was way long. He

1200
01:13:42,119 --> 01:13:44,319
had a nose like ours. It wasn't a flat or

1201
01:13:44,359 --> 01:13:46,399
anything like that. He had a nose like ours. And

1202
01:13:46,439 --> 01:13:52,039
everything was just humongous on this rascal. And I remember

1203
01:13:52,159 --> 01:13:56,840
he had he had like horse teeth. It looked like

1204
01:13:56,920 --> 01:14:00,920
big block horse teeth. And I've seen some that have canine. Uh,

1205
01:14:01,359 --> 01:14:05,000
those ain't so nice sometimes. But the encounters that I've

1206
01:14:05,039 --> 01:14:07,960
had that just had the big horse top teeth, big

1207
01:14:08,000 --> 01:14:12,720
buck teeth that go around, uh, those seem to be

1208
01:14:12,720 --> 01:14:16,319
a little bit more docile than that first rascal I had.

1209
01:14:16,479 --> 01:14:21,319
Speaker 7: Well, deve, can I ask a couple you bet, maybe

1210
01:14:21,399 --> 01:14:23,960
volumes should be turned down just a little bit deep

1211
01:14:24,039 --> 01:14:27,680
if you can. We're getting a little echo, a little feedback,

1212
01:14:28,239 --> 01:14:30,239
you know, to turn it way down, but just a

1213
01:14:30,239 --> 01:14:35,680
bit there we go perfect. You said you heard like

1214
01:14:35,800 --> 01:14:39,560
a hum at one point during that encounter, where you

1215
01:14:39,560 --> 01:14:43,520
could feel it like in your chest. What can you

1216
01:14:43,560 --> 01:14:46,479
get into a little more details on what you heard?

1217
01:14:49,880 --> 01:14:52,199
Speaker 17: You know, some of these rascals.

1218
01:14:53,159 --> 01:14:57,720
Speaker 1: That I've experienced, uh, some say they have in for sounds,

1219
01:14:57,760 --> 01:15:03,159
some say it's not h I've been hit by infrasound

1220
01:15:03,359 --> 01:15:07,880
three times. Two times it wasn't real good. It made

1221
01:15:07,880 --> 01:15:11,039
me real sick, and one time I just I just

1222
01:15:11,279 --> 01:15:16,560
lost time. But that one there, when you're when you're

1223
01:15:16,600 --> 01:15:21,359
in a high stress situation, uh, your life or somebody

1224
01:15:21,359 --> 01:15:27,000
else's life, you go into this mode so to speak. Now,

1225
01:15:27,039 --> 01:15:30,760
I did hear him scream. That did vibrate me, But

1226
01:15:34,319 --> 01:15:36,439
it's hard to explain, not unless you're looking down the

1227
01:15:36,439 --> 01:15:39,760
barrel of a gun. Now, if that one hit me

1228
01:15:39,800 --> 01:15:44,000
with infrasound, I don't know. I couldn't tell you yes

1229
01:15:44,119 --> 01:15:47,239
or no. But when when you get put in that

1230
01:15:47,399 --> 01:15:52,239
high stress situation, everything starts shutting down and you you

1231
01:15:52,239 --> 01:15:57,039
you see and hear nothing but the objective that is

1232
01:15:57,079 --> 01:16:00,520
in front of you. Uh So, as far as the

1233
01:16:00,640 --> 01:16:02,960
humming in my ears, a low hum in my ears,

1234
01:16:03,000 --> 01:16:04,800
that could have been something I don't.

1235
01:16:04,600 --> 01:16:09,079
Speaker 7: Know right, but was it? Do you think did you

1236
01:16:09,199 --> 01:16:12,319
hear it? Because like in for sound can be above

1237
01:16:12,399 --> 01:16:14,359
in for sound where you can hear part of it,

1238
01:16:14,760 --> 01:16:17,800
the other part can be blow you know, twenty hurts

1239
01:16:17,800 --> 01:16:19,399
where you can to hear it. It could be in

1240
01:16:19,399 --> 01:16:23,960
both ranges. So did you actually maybe hear any kind

1241
01:16:23,960 --> 01:16:29,520
of buzzing or humming or was it just more felt

1242
01:16:29,600 --> 01:16:30,159
in the ear.

1243
01:16:30,600 --> 01:16:32,840
Speaker 1: I think it was more felt in the ear, Okay.

1244
01:16:32,960 --> 01:16:36,840
Speaker 7: Okay, but it was kind of like a vibration.

1245
01:16:37,359 --> 01:16:39,000
Speaker 17: Yes, oh yeah, for sure.

1246
01:16:39,039 --> 01:16:42,800
Speaker 7: Because you you mentioned Tom twice, and I'm like, because

1247
01:16:42,840 --> 01:16:48,800
we've been studying this kind of ignored humbuzz per sound

1248
01:16:49,680 --> 01:16:56,119
that people have been getting and recording and talking about

1249
01:16:56,199 --> 01:16:58,960
since nineteen thirty four, but it really isn't out in

1250
01:16:59,000 --> 01:17:03,359
the public yet and some of the How about we

1251
01:17:03,479 --> 01:17:08,800
play a sound for Dave, Jeff, just like the Texas

1252
01:17:08,840 --> 01:17:17,159
one is good. Listen to this, Dave. Al Right, Sorry,

1253
01:17:17,159 --> 01:17:20,399
I love hearing I mean this because this has happened

1254
01:17:20,479 --> 01:17:23,760
quite a while ago. I love hearing these encounter stories.

1255
01:17:25,760 --> 01:17:27,520
Speaker 1: Sorry to pull it up.

1256
01:17:28,159 --> 01:17:34,680
Speaker 7: You have it, though, I do find it okay. I

1257
01:17:34,720 --> 01:17:37,920
think it was called infra sound that one. It was labeled,

1258
01:17:38,760 --> 01:17:42,159
but it was Texas. You play the snow grove. You

1259
01:17:42,159 --> 01:17:45,680
can play the snow grove one, doesn't matter. I just

1260
01:17:45,720 --> 01:17:47,800
want him to hear this and see if it rings

1261
01:17:47,840 --> 01:17:48,600
any bells.

1262
01:17:50,560 --> 01:17:53,000
Speaker 9: Sorry, I'm looking, I'm looking looking look at all right, Well,

1263
01:17:53,000 --> 01:17:53,359
when you.

1264
01:17:53,319 --> 01:17:56,119
Speaker 7: Get it, Jeff, just let the snow We'll just continue

1265
01:17:57,039 --> 01:18:00,000
hearing that. Yeah, yeah, well he will let him look forward.

1266
01:18:00,119 --> 01:18:03,159
We can keep talking now. You mentioned also he would

1267
01:18:03,199 --> 01:18:05,960
hit his hand in the water and he was like

1268
01:18:06,760 --> 01:18:08,960
was he splashing gently?

1269
01:18:09,119 --> 01:18:12,079
Speaker 1: His hand was kind of going like this. What do

1270
01:18:12,119 --> 01:18:13,359
you think that about?

1271
01:18:13,600 --> 01:18:13,840
Speaker 9: That?

1272
01:18:13,920 --> 01:18:16,119
Speaker 1: I do not know, but it was it was waving

1273
01:18:16,159 --> 01:18:19,560
the water next to his next to his right side.

1274
01:18:20,439 --> 01:18:22,279
Why he was doing that, I do not know.

1275
01:18:22,560 --> 01:18:24,760
Speaker 7: Do you think he was, Okay, are there fish in

1276
01:18:24,880 --> 01:18:28,359
this particular water? Was he maybe trying to do a trackfish?

1277
01:18:28,640 --> 01:18:31,560
Speaker 1: Was he was standing right into my best fishing spot

1278
01:18:31,600 --> 01:18:32,960
down there, So.

1279
01:18:32,880 --> 01:18:35,840
Speaker 7: He may have been maybe doing something to attract fish,

1280
01:18:35,920 --> 01:18:40,520
possibly possibly possibly, Well somebody, okay, I'm gonna put this

1281
01:18:40,600 --> 01:18:43,800
out there. Somebody needs to try that. And was it

1282
01:18:43,960 --> 01:18:46,359
like what two feet of water or less?

1283
01:18:47,159 --> 01:18:47,640
Speaker 17: Yeah?

1284
01:18:47,760 --> 01:18:48,399
Speaker 1: Thereabouts?

1285
01:18:48,479 --> 01:18:51,319
Speaker 7: Yeah, okay, somebody can try that if you get into

1286
01:18:51,359 --> 01:18:54,439
an area with a bunch of sunfish or whatever. What

1287
01:18:54,560 --> 01:18:55,720
kind of fish were in there?

1288
01:18:56,560 --> 01:18:59,439
Speaker 1: Usually I caught him big handsauce perch, but further out

1289
01:18:59,479 --> 01:19:01,920
you don't care such a good catfish and drum.

1290
01:19:01,960 --> 01:19:04,039
Speaker 7: Okay, so maybe he was calling it, but it would

1291
01:19:04,039 --> 01:19:05,760
be a fun experiment to see if you put your

1292
01:19:05,760 --> 01:19:08,000
hand on the water and kind of vibrated if it

1293
01:19:08,079 --> 01:19:09,000
attracts fish.

1294
01:19:09,319 --> 01:19:11,359
Speaker 9: Go ahead and play a Jeff, this is the Snell

1295
01:19:11,399 --> 01:19:13,239
Grove one.

1296
01:19:14,760 --> 01:19:16,680
Speaker 3: M h m hm.

1297
01:19:17,760 --> 01:19:18,800
Speaker 7: He's looking at Dave.

1298
01:19:18,920 --> 01:19:22,880
Speaker 9: So it's just that one, right, it's looking, it's looking.

1299
01:19:22,880 --> 01:19:25,840
Here's here's the one from Uh, here's Texas. This is

1300
01:19:25,840 --> 01:19:33,359
the Texas one. Yah, the volume, turn the volume up.

1301
01:19:37,760 --> 01:19:38,520
I'll play it again.

1302
01:19:39,359 --> 01:19:39,800
Speaker 7: M hm.

1303
01:19:43,439 --> 01:19:47,119
Speaker 9: Mm hmm. Wow mm hm.

1304
01:19:48,600 --> 01:19:53,000
Speaker 7: And you could understand how that would vibrate your ear drum.

1305
01:19:53,560 --> 01:19:56,039
It's it just does right now.

1306
01:19:56,119 --> 01:19:58,720
Speaker 9: And again that that that that sound was pulled off

1307
01:19:58,720 --> 01:20:02,079
of a VHS state from the eighties. Yeah, that was

1308
01:20:02,439 --> 01:20:06,159
It wasn't like some you know, there's no doubt if

1309
01:20:06,159 --> 01:20:08,600
it's phenom's it's real.

1310
01:20:08,760 --> 01:20:16,479
Speaker 7: Yeah. Yeah, somebody didn't hear me talking about it.

1311
01:20:13,760 --> 01:20:16,560
Speaker 9: Was a tape sitting This wasn't a teape sitting in

1312
01:20:16,560 --> 01:20:17,479
the box for years.

1313
01:20:17,960 --> 01:20:21,239
Speaker 1: Wow. Was noticed, and I kind of explained some noises

1314
01:20:21,279 --> 01:20:23,640
I've got on my soundtrap that I've kind of just

1315
01:20:23,680 --> 01:20:24,359
blowed off.

1316
01:20:24,680 --> 01:20:28,640
Speaker 7: Oh that's why. So what sounds are those?

1317
01:20:29,000 --> 01:20:33,880
Speaker 1: Wow, I've got grousehouse. Uh, the what I call the

1318
01:20:33,880 --> 01:20:38,560
ghibli where there sounds like two samurai warriors. Is the

1319
01:20:38,600 --> 01:20:40,920
best way I can explain what it sounds. It sounds

1320
01:20:40,960 --> 01:20:47,239
like a foreign language. But yeah, that that second noise

1321
01:20:47,359 --> 01:20:52,079
that y'all play, even possibly the first noise that y'all

1322
01:20:52,119 --> 01:20:54,960
pay because I set out usually when I go into

1323
01:20:54,960 --> 01:20:58,199
an investigation area, I usually set out at least six

1324
01:20:58,760 --> 01:21:04,279
soundtraps in different areas. If we're doing like a private

1325
01:21:04,319 --> 01:21:06,720
property or something like that. You know, I take just

1326
01:21:06,760 --> 01:21:09,199
a handful of people in that's on my team. We

1327
01:21:09,279 --> 01:21:12,520
go in there and investigate the property. You know, we'll

1328
01:21:12,560 --> 01:21:16,960
set up some soundtraps, six sound traps around the perimeter

1329
01:21:17,119 --> 01:21:19,640
and stuff. Then of course I got camera traps and

1330
01:21:19,640 --> 01:21:22,479
stuff like that. But I always thought that was some

1331
01:21:22,640 --> 01:21:26,319
kind of background noise or something I might have to

1332
01:21:26,359 --> 01:21:29,560
go through some I've got tons of audios. I'm might

1333
01:21:29,600 --> 01:21:32,960
have to go through some audio again, and especially the

1334
01:21:33,000 --> 01:21:37,880
ones I've taken down the faut. I think I've got

1335
01:21:37,920 --> 01:21:38,760
some of that stuff.

1336
01:21:39,439 --> 01:21:41,560
Speaker 7: Yeah, that would be That would be so awesome.

1337
01:21:41,640 --> 01:21:41,840
Speaker 1: Dave.

1338
01:21:43,680 --> 01:21:49,279
Speaker 7: So you you came off this experience, obviously, you said

1339
01:21:49,279 --> 01:21:51,720
it made you scared of the dark. I'm still scared

1340
01:21:51,760 --> 01:21:55,439
of the dark. By the way, I'm not so much,

1341
01:21:55,560 --> 01:21:58,159
and I'm not afraid to admit it. I still am.

1342
01:21:59,399 --> 01:22:02,439
Speaker 1: Well, when you you find out what's in the dark. Yeah,

1343
01:22:02,560 --> 01:22:06,079
you know that that makes that makes all the difference

1344
01:22:06,119 --> 01:22:06,680
in the world.

1345
01:22:07,800 --> 01:22:08,600
Speaker 7: Yeah, exactly.

1346
01:22:08,880 --> 01:22:11,399
Speaker 1: And of course I told my family and friends and

1347
01:22:11,399 --> 01:22:14,159
and of course I got ridiculed, you know, and they

1348
01:22:14,199 --> 01:22:16,640
thought it was the fun deal was the throw Dave

1349
01:22:16,720 --> 01:22:21,039
outside after the sun went down, And that wasn't that

1350
01:22:21,239 --> 01:22:25,279
was that wasn't very pretty, to say the least. I'll

1351
01:22:25,279 --> 01:22:27,039
bust the winning and get back in and get me

1352
01:22:27,119 --> 01:22:29,239
back in that house. So I was a kid, I'd

1353
01:22:29,239 --> 01:22:31,560
be out playing. But buddy, when that son went down,

1354
01:22:31,640 --> 01:22:33,520
I was heading to the house. It didn't matter where

1355
01:22:33,520 --> 01:22:35,760
I was at. I had to be by home before

1356
01:22:35,840 --> 01:22:38,560
the sun went down because I knew I was in

1357
01:22:38,600 --> 01:22:42,359
the dark. Then that's the big impression that made on me.

1358
01:22:43,279 --> 01:22:45,920
Coon hunt by myself all the time, take my two dogs,

1359
01:22:46,000 --> 01:22:49,359
go coon hunting. You know, I'd hear weird stuff down there,

1360
01:22:49,399 --> 01:22:53,079
but never could tear tell no heads and tails from it.

1361
01:22:54,119 --> 01:22:59,000
Speaker 17: But but after after that, my coon hunt Dave's rover.

1362
01:22:59,119 --> 01:22:59,920
Speaker 1: For a long time.

1363
01:23:01,319 --> 01:23:04,920
Speaker 7: So what do you let's just jump into this dumb question.

1364
01:23:06,039 --> 01:23:10,119
But all of these weird things that we live with

1365
01:23:10,159 --> 01:23:17,239
in the world, from maybe ueps to dougmned these wing humanoids,

1366
01:23:17,319 --> 01:23:20,680
all this stuff. It's so weird, and I know it's

1367
01:23:20,760 --> 01:23:24,920
real because I've seen too much of it myself through

1368
01:23:24,960 --> 01:23:31,279
the years, and I just to this day I'm baffled

1369
01:23:31,359 --> 01:23:34,600
as to what it could be. There's obviously I have

1370
01:23:34,680 --> 01:23:38,039
my own tons of little dumb theories. But what are

1371
01:23:38,119 --> 01:23:41,359
your theories? You're a guest, what are your thoughts on

1372
01:23:41,439 --> 01:23:42,479
all these things?

1373
01:23:42,960 --> 01:23:46,199
Speaker 1: My thoughts so mad is if if people knew exactly

1374
01:23:46,239 --> 01:23:49,039
what would bump in the night, they wouldn't go out it.

1375
01:23:50,399 --> 01:23:53,439
For sure. I've seen some wild stuff in the woods,

1376
01:23:53,960 --> 01:23:57,640
you know. I've experienced, you know, seeing ghosts in the

1377
01:23:57,680 --> 01:24:03,039
woods anywhere, from ghost to aliens to dog man's a

1378
01:24:03,079 --> 01:24:08,159
couple of skin walkers. But that's that's crazy, crazy stuff.

1379
01:24:08,399 --> 01:24:10,199
Speaker 7: Do you do you think you're do you think your

1380
01:24:10,359 --> 01:24:13,239
radio is? Is it because your radio is kind of

1381
01:24:13,279 --> 01:24:16,279
tuned in a bit more because you're just observing, because

1382
01:24:16,319 --> 01:24:22,159
you know, it pays to really look close. In other words,

1383
01:24:22,239 --> 01:24:24,840
you acknowledge these things are out there, So you're not

1384
01:24:25,000 --> 01:24:26,840
just ignoring the woods.

1385
01:24:26,520 --> 01:24:27,159
Speaker 9: When you walk.

1386
01:24:27,640 --> 01:24:30,119
Speaker 17: No, not at all, especially after that first encounter.

1387
01:24:30,399 --> 01:24:33,920
Speaker 1: You know, my head's always on a swell right with

1388
01:24:34,119 --> 01:24:38,800
my training and background, you know. Uh, we observe everything

1389
01:24:39,399 --> 01:24:40,319
that's around us.

1390
01:24:40,439 --> 01:24:40,640
Speaker 9: You know.

1391
01:24:40,880 --> 01:24:43,239
Speaker 1: It's kind of like, you know, I have to set

1392
01:24:43,319 --> 01:24:45,840
with my back against the wall at all times, got

1393
01:24:45,840 --> 01:24:48,399
to know where the exits are at and stuff like that.

1394
01:24:49,600 --> 01:24:52,279
But you know, a friend of mine, when I first

1395
01:24:52,279 --> 01:24:55,439
come out with my with just a few stories over

1396
01:24:55,560 --> 01:24:58,840
the phone, I had a telephone interview with Miguel with

1397
01:24:58,920 --> 01:25:02,079
Sasquatsch theory and later on went up there and had

1398
01:25:02,079 --> 01:25:04,239
an in chair with the mountain the woods and that

1399
01:25:04,319 --> 01:25:04,920
was pretty cool.

1400
01:25:05,560 --> 01:25:05,760
Speaker 6: Uh.

1401
01:25:05,800 --> 01:25:09,600
Speaker 1: He's one that opens Pandora's box for me. He just

1402
01:25:09,760 --> 01:25:11,520
you know, got to have you on the show, gotta

1403
01:25:11,560 --> 01:25:13,000
have you on so and finally I told him my

1404
01:25:13,119 --> 01:25:19,399
share so so, Uh, I feel that people can be

1405
01:25:19,479 --> 01:25:20,880
tagged or marked.

1406
01:25:22,399 --> 01:25:22,840
Speaker 7: Uh.

1407
01:25:22,960 --> 01:25:26,760
Speaker 1: You know, but but I've always seen whacked out stuff,

1408
01:25:27,199 --> 01:25:27,560
you know.

1409
01:25:27,880 --> 01:25:32,159
Speaker 7: And well I'm a few tonight, you know.

1410
01:25:32,720 --> 01:25:40,000
Speaker 1: Uh, from from I've seen from good to evil, good

1411
01:25:40,000 --> 01:25:44,920
ass power, the badass power as well. I was in

1412
01:25:45,000 --> 01:25:49,840
a Santantic Satanic church in Dallas. This kind of off kilter,

1413
01:25:50,399 --> 01:25:55,039
But you're asking me for weird stuff, and uh, I

1414
01:25:55,079 --> 01:25:57,199
was trying to find my way now. I was always

1415
01:25:57,239 --> 01:26:00,079
taking to church when I was a kid, but I

1416
01:25:59,720 --> 01:26:01,560
was to blaze my own trail when I got a

1417
01:26:01,600 --> 01:26:05,279
certain age, I'm on man, my own god. And I

1418
01:26:05,359 --> 01:26:09,960
was in a Sentanic church in downtown Dallas and I

1419
01:26:10,039 --> 01:26:13,000
witnessed a woman that we were all in the circle,

1420
01:26:13,279 --> 01:26:15,479
you know, they had the candles going all this kind

1421
01:26:15,520 --> 01:26:19,600
of stuff, and we were in a group, we were

1422
01:26:19,640 --> 01:26:31,479
holding hands, and she left the group. She she like

1423
01:26:32,399 --> 01:26:36,479
slid across the floor, not not moving her legs. She

1424
01:26:36,520 --> 01:26:38,840
didn't take her legs and back up or anything like that.

1425
01:26:38,960 --> 01:26:42,960
She slid all the way across to the wall, went

1426
01:26:43,159 --> 01:26:48,800
up the wall and over where we were at with

1427
01:26:49,920 --> 01:26:53,840
her hands by the by her side. That's when I

1428
01:26:53,960 --> 01:26:56,479
was like, this is way too weird for me. I

1429
01:26:56,520 --> 01:26:58,880
am out of here. That that kind of scared me. There.

1430
01:26:59,079 --> 01:27:00,800
So I've seen the power evil and I've seen the

1431
01:27:00,840 --> 01:27:05,439
pirate good as well. You know. It's I've just always

1432
01:27:05,439 --> 01:27:09,720
been open to crazy stuff, I guess. And it doesn't

1433
01:27:09,760 --> 01:27:12,960
matter where I went, where I lived, you know, especially

1434
01:27:13,000 --> 01:27:15,640
the big guys, they would always show up. You know

1435
01:27:15,720 --> 01:27:18,000
a few other crazies, but they would always show up.

1436
01:27:18,640 --> 01:27:20,880
So I feel you can be tagged or marked.

1437
01:27:21,039 --> 01:27:24,439
Speaker 7: Okay, So you think that that's more of it. I've

1438
01:27:24,479 --> 01:27:27,800
had people tell me that though Doug, you're tagged, you're

1439
01:27:27,960 --> 01:27:29,359
you know, and I don't have to think of that.

1440
01:27:29,520 --> 01:27:31,560
Speaker 1: I don't want to be tagged.

1441
01:27:31,600 --> 01:27:35,960
Speaker 7: But on the same token, I mean, it kind of

1442
01:27:36,000 --> 01:27:40,600
makes sense because it's like some of us seem to

1443
01:27:40,680 --> 01:27:43,079
attract that kind of a thing, you know, do you

1444
01:27:43,079 --> 01:27:48,560
know what I mean? The nexus of yes. And like Jeff,

1445
01:27:49,680 --> 01:27:51,079
he hasn't seen anything.

1446
01:27:51,439 --> 01:27:53,239
Speaker 9: I really know, Wow, and.

1447
01:27:53,560 --> 01:27:55,760
Speaker 7: We wonder why. You know, it's a thing that it's

1448
01:27:55,800 --> 01:27:58,119
as fun to talk about why a guy hasn't seen

1449
01:27:58,159 --> 01:28:01,239
anything as it is to talk to somebody like you

1450
01:28:01,359 --> 01:28:03,600
that's had so many experiences.

1451
01:28:04,239 --> 01:28:09,119
Speaker 1: Dave, Well, even on that line, I've been trying to

1452
01:28:09,119 --> 01:28:11,000
get on his hunting lease that my brother was on

1453
01:28:11,119 --> 01:28:13,359
here in south central Arkansas.

1454
01:28:13,600 --> 01:28:14,000
Speaker 7: And.

1455
01:28:15,920 --> 01:28:19,800
Speaker 1: It's a little more closer to Texa, Cana. But he

1456
01:28:19,920 --> 01:28:26,239
been on that lease thirteen fourteen years where base Camp is.

1457
01:28:26,279 --> 01:28:29,399
My cousin his house is there. So I just pulled

1458
01:28:29,439 --> 01:28:31,399
my RB down there and park it. My brother had

1459
01:28:31,399 --> 01:28:35,119
a campe trader he parked in and stuff, and I

1460
01:28:35,319 --> 01:28:37,920
finally got in on that lease and started going down

1461
01:28:37,960 --> 01:28:39,800
there and hunting with my older brother.

1462
01:28:40,039 --> 01:28:42,199
Speaker 17: After my mom died, and.

1463
01:28:43,960 --> 01:28:48,760
Speaker 1: I started seeing stuff, you know, tree breaks here, in

1464
01:28:48,840 --> 01:28:57,840
tree knocks, structures, and then I'd start hearing the house

1465
01:28:57,960 --> 01:28:59,840
the whoops, you know. And I went to my co

1466
01:29:00,119 --> 01:29:04,359
and I said, man, I was like, you've been down

1467
01:29:04,399 --> 01:29:07,119
here all your life. Have you ever seen anything weird

1468
01:29:07,279 --> 01:29:09,760
down here? I said, you hunted, not all the time,

1469
01:29:12,039 --> 01:29:16,119
So is there anything you know bad happened or something

1470
01:29:16,159 --> 01:29:18,239
that that just kind of boogered you up just a

1471
01:29:18,239 --> 01:29:20,640
little bit? And he's like, no, there ain't nothing like

1472
01:29:20,680 --> 01:29:23,199
that down here, he said, what are you getting at? Well?

1473
01:29:23,279 --> 01:29:24,399
Speaker 17: I just I just told him.

1474
01:29:24,399 --> 01:29:26,840
Speaker 1: I said, well, I'm just seeing some stuff that I've

1475
01:29:26,840 --> 01:29:30,119
seen other places, and just kind of left it like that.

1476
01:29:30,239 --> 01:29:32,520
My brother had been hunting down there for thirteen years.

1477
01:29:32,760 --> 01:29:36,520
I hain't never saw nothing until I started pointing out

1478
01:29:36,560 --> 01:29:40,279
stuff to him. Then he was kind of like, oh wow.

1479
01:29:40,800 --> 01:29:46,439
And even my cousin, you know, he didn't didn't believe it.

1480
01:29:46,520 --> 01:29:46,680
You know.

1481
01:29:46,720 --> 01:29:48,159
Speaker 17: I finally told him what it was.

1482
01:29:48,479 --> 01:29:51,000
Speaker 1: I said, I said, I think you got some sasquatches

1483
01:29:51,039 --> 01:29:55,039
down here. And he's like, no, man, there ain't nothing

1484
01:29:55,079 --> 01:29:59,159
like that down here. And we were out hog hunting

1485
01:29:59,159 --> 01:30:04,800
one day and we had to go into what we

1486
01:30:04,880 --> 01:30:08,560
call the Jesus bushes. And these things got long thorns

1487
01:30:08,600 --> 01:30:11,319
on their green and they have a little ball on

1488
01:30:11,399 --> 01:30:13,720
there that looks kind of like an orange, but it's

1489
01:30:13,720 --> 01:30:16,520
not an orange. So we had the dog's bade in

1490
01:30:16,520 --> 01:30:18,199
the middle of one of those. So me and him

1491
01:30:18,199 --> 01:30:20,159
try to crawl on our bellies. We're right in the

1492
01:30:20,159 --> 01:30:24,079
middle of that dog on tree break, and we kind

1493
01:30:24,079 --> 01:30:27,960
of stood up. We got the hog killed it, and

1494
01:30:28,000 --> 01:30:30,760
then he said, let me ask you some day. He says,

1495
01:30:30,800 --> 01:30:34,359
see this right here, what is that? And I said, well,

1496
01:30:35,359 --> 01:30:38,439
I said it's the tree break. He says, I've been

1497
01:30:38,479 --> 01:30:41,399
noticing these all the way, you know, for a while.

1498
01:30:41,479 --> 01:30:44,840
Now out here, what is doing that? And I said,

1499
01:30:44,960 --> 01:30:47,479
I said, cause you got a squatch down here. And

1500
01:30:47,520 --> 01:30:49,720
come to find out he had five of them down there.

1501
01:30:52,119 --> 01:30:53,319
Speaker 17: They have it. Well.

1502
01:30:54,880 --> 01:30:58,039
Speaker 1: Once we were doing some hog hunting and down there

1503
01:30:58,399 --> 01:31:02,359
and it was my cousin, his fiance, me and my

1504
01:31:02,399 --> 01:31:05,439
little brother, and there was one that screamed. He was

1505
01:31:05,479 --> 01:31:08,880
probably eighty yards away, and that sucker lit off. Man

1506
01:31:08,960 --> 01:31:11,720
in my cousin's eyes went about that big around. He's like,

1507
01:31:12,039 --> 01:31:17,079
what the hell was that? Just quoting him, and I said,

1508
01:31:17,119 --> 01:31:19,800
that's a squatch bro. I said, there's a squatch over there.

1509
01:31:20,359 --> 01:31:22,079
He's like, man, we got to get out here. I said,

1510
01:31:22,119 --> 01:31:23,720
don't worry about it. They ain't gonna bother you if

1511
01:31:23,760 --> 01:31:26,680
you don't bother them. Come to find out, they had

1512
01:31:26,720 --> 01:31:30,359
five down there that I interacted with for about six

1513
01:31:30,479 --> 01:31:33,640
years until there was like a fifteen foot of water

1514
01:31:33,760 --> 01:31:34,600
that come through there.

1515
01:31:35,199 --> 01:31:38,319
Speaker 17: And I haven't seen him back since then.

1516
01:31:38,640 --> 01:31:41,000
Speaker 1: I don't know if they just that clan left the area,

1517
01:31:42,000 --> 01:31:44,640
but they were down there for a long time. I

1518
01:31:44,680 --> 01:31:47,279
even set up a gifting spot at an Indian tree,

1519
01:31:48,079 --> 01:31:50,479
and I would leave, you know, different stuff, trying to

1520
01:31:50,479 --> 01:31:53,319
fill them out and see what, you know, what they'd like,

1521
01:31:53,399 --> 01:31:54,199
what they wouldn't like.

1522
01:31:55,119 --> 01:31:55,520
Speaker 9: The love.

1523
01:31:55,880 --> 01:31:57,760
Speaker 1: They love candy bars, you gotta take them out of

1524
01:31:57,760 --> 01:32:03,239
the wrapper. They didn't like bananas, go figure, but like apples.

1525
01:32:03,319 --> 01:32:06,279
They love watermelons. Love love watermelons. So I just take

1526
01:32:06,319 --> 01:32:08,319
a bunch of o watermelons. I'd cut them in forest

1527
01:32:08,359 --> 01:32:10,640
and hang them up in the trees at this gifted spot.

1528
01:32:11,479 --> 01:32:15,279
And I tried to set cameras all around. Well, I

1529
01:32:15,319 --> 01:32:17,960
didn't try. I did set cameras all the way around this,

1530
01:32:18,439 --> 01:32:22,119
all around these areas and couldn't get not one picture.

1531
01:32:22,239 --> 01:32:27,600
I'd get pictures of squirrels, rabbits, but and even deer.

1532
01:32:27,880 --> 01:32:33,680
But when it but you can see the fruit or

1533
01:32:33,720 --> 01:32:36,560
the stuff I'd leave on there, and it would like,

1534
01:32:37,600 --> 01:32:40,520
you see one picture, the stuff still there, you see

1535
01:32:40,520 --> 01:32:44,560
another picture, maybe half of it's gone. And I mean

1536
01:32:44,560 --> 01:32:49,000
it was real crazy. My batteries and my camera traps

1537
01:32:49,039 --> 01:32:51,119
would go. I put brand new batteries in there and

1538
01:32:51,239 --> 01:32:53,680
go back a week later and they're dead. And these

1539
01:32:53,720 --> 01:32:57,159
things usually last all hunting season. But I finally did

1540
01:32:57,239 --> 01:33:01,319
catch one picture, and I set them up high and

1541
01:33:01,520 --> 01:33:05,159
pointed them down in a triangle and I got one

1542
01:33:05,199 --> 01:33:11,079
clip one picture of one standing probably sixty yards from

1543
01:33:11,119 --> 01:33:15,920
the gifting spot. The biggest one that I encountered down

1544
01:33:15,920 --> 01:33:18,960
there is I ended up calling him Big Eddie. He

1545
01:33:19,199 --> 01:33:23,600
was he's probably last time I saw him. He was

1546
01:33:23,640 --> 01:33:30,039
probably about eleven foot talk just a hulking beast. And

1547
01:33:30,079 --> 01:33:33,319
then there was two adults with him, and then some

1548
01:33:33,439 --> 01:33:38,720
juveniles that I had down there that I was interacting with,

1549
01:33:38,800 --> 01:33:43,119
and it was pretty interesting. You know, these things are

1550
01:33:43,239 --> 01:33:47,279
very very intelligent, and you know, I started leaving stuff

1551
01:33:47,319 --> 01:33:49,600
at the gifting spot, and stuff would disappear you know,

1552
01:33:49,640 --> 01:33:52,880
it took a little time before they would start taking

1553
01:33:52,920 --> 01:33:57,880
stuff blood, peanut butter. But not only were they taken,

1554
01:33:58,439 --> 01:34:02,239
then they turned around and started believing, So they started

1555
01:34:02,319 --> 01:34:05,159
leaving me little trinkets, stuff like that. I think they

1556
01:34:05,279 --> 01:34:09,800
left me maybe six or seven arrowheads at that spot,

1557
01:34:10,560 --> 01:34:11,720
a big steel.

1558
01:34:11,399 --> 01:34:13,159
Speaker 17: Ball bearon which.

1559
01:34:14,560 --> 01:34:16,439
Speaker 1: I don't know how they got their hands on that

1560
01:34:16,520 --> 01:34:18,960
big steel barbar. And I was shocked when I found it.

1561
01:34:19,159 --> 01:34:21,079
Oh big was It was about the size of a

1562
01:34:21,079 --> 01:34:27,239
half dollar. It was a big bar bear. He left

1563
01:34:27,239 --> 01:34:30,159
a club. What it looks like to me is a

1564
01:34:30,199 --> 01:34:34,479
club on the gifting spot. One time, I've got it,

1565
01:34:34,560 --> 01:34:36,640
and I still have the arrowheads and stuff. I usually

1566
01:34:36,640 --> 01:34:39,159
set them out when I go talk or i'm bending

1567
01:34:39,319 --> 01:34:45,039
or something like that. Then I've got another deal I have.

1568
01:34:45,159 --> 01:34:49,119
I have a tree break. Now, this is a genuine

1569
01:34:49,199 --> 01:34:52,079
tree break. The reason I say that because I saw

1570
01:34:52,159 --> 01:34:55,439
him break the limb off the tree and snapped it

1571
01:34:55,479 --> 01:34:58,039
in half, and it was a piece that fell down

1572
01:34:58,079 --> 01:35:01,079
by his foot looked at me, and he looked at

1573
01:35:01,079 --> 01:35:03,279
that piece, and he reached down and grabbed that piece,

1574
01:35:03,399 --> 01:35:07,159
turned around, leaned it up against the tree, and then

1575
01:35:07,199 --> 01:35:11,319
turned around walked off. So when he was gone. I

1576
01:35:11,399 --> 01:35:13,880
knew he was gone. I slipped right over there and

1577
01:35:13,920 --> 01:35:17,079
grabbed that tree break and I've still got it with me.

1578
01:35:17,239 --> 01:35:21,039
It's crazy. How many bigfoots?

1579
01:35:21,119 --> 01:35:24,479
Speaker 7: Okay, and I know it sounds crazy to people who

1580
01:35:24,520 --> 01:35:28,039
either don't believe or who have never seen a bigfoot?

1581
01:35:28,079 --> 01:35:30,279
How many bigfoots do you think you've actually had a

1582
01:35:30,319 --> 01:35:31,960
good visual on.

1583
01:35:33,600 --> 01:35:35,800
Speaker 1: I didn't count them all?

1584
01:35:35,920 --> 01:35:40,279
Speaker 7: Yeah, just I know, just a rough guess. It's over ten.

1585
01:35:41,680 --> 01:35:42,760
Speaker 17: No, it's much more than that.

1586
01:35:43,159 --> 01:35:47,880
Speaker 1: Okay, maybe eighty to one hundred.

1587
01:35:48,159 --> 01:35:52,600
Speaker 7: Really doesn't that? Okay? So Jeff, what are your thoughts now?

1588
01:35:52,800 --> 01:35:55,119
What's going through your head when you hear that you

1589
01:35:55,159 --> 01:35:56,840
haven't seen anything? Uh?

1590
01:35:58,039 --> 01:35:59,840
Speaker 9: No, but I you know, no, I haven't been in

1591
01:35:59,840 --> 01:36:00,439
the well.

1592
01:36:00,479 --> 01:36:01,880
Speaker 1: I know you believe in these things.

1593
01:36:01,960 --> 01:36:03,359
Speaker 9: I know that, Yeah I do.

1594
01:36:04,720 --> 01:36:06,479
Speaker 7: But wouldn't you love to see one?

1595
01:36:07,359 --> 01:36:07,960
Speaker 9: Absolutely?

1596
01:36:08,199 --> 01:36:11,720
Speaker 17: And I do expeditions.

1597
01:36:12,119 --> 01:36:13,640
Speaker 9: I actually we was just in I was in Little

1598
01:36:13,720 --> 01:36:14,720
Rock last week for work.

1599
01:36:14,760 --> 01:36:15,079
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1600
01:36:15,479 --> 01:36:16,079
Speaker 9: Yeah, we were.

1601
01:36:16,199 --> 01:36:17,640
Speaker 1: Wow. Yeah I did.

1602
01:36:17,960 --> 01:36:20,119
Speaker 9: I had no free time though I was working. I

1603
01:36:20,159 --> 01:36:22,279
was working all day every day. Yeah.

1604
01:36:22,479 --> 01:36:27,920
Speaker 1: We Uh, we did an expedition down in uh southwest Arkansas,

1605
01:36:28,640 --> 01:36:34,039
closer to the Louisiana border, and we videoed there was

1606
01:36:34,159 --> 01:36:39,279
one y'all been talking to Kay. I believe yes, my admin,

1607
01:36:39,399 --> 01:36:42,600
I call her my admin. She's a she's a great

1608
01:36:42,680 --> 01:36:47,319
help to me. I can't thank her enough. But we

1609
01:36:47,399 --> 01:36:50,439
had Mayrvy setting here and the traders setting here, and

1610
01:36:50,439 --> 01:36:54,000
we had one walk through camp walk right behind, probably

1611
01:36:54,760 --> 01:36:59,159
less than ten feet behind K and turned around, looked

1612
01:36:59,159 --> 01:37:02,760
down and walked off. And the guy setting across from

1613
01:37:02,800 --> 01:37:04,840
her because we had a bunch of tables set up

1614
01:37:04,880 --> 01:37:08,159
on this side with a tent and whatnot, and it

1615
01:37:08,199 --> 01:37:11,680
was it was getting dark, and one walked up, looked

1616
01:37:11,720 --> 01:37:14,199
at Kay and then just walked off. And the guy's

1617
01:37:14,199 --> 01:37:16,920
eyes were like this bigger round and he's like, don't move,

1618
01:37:16,960 --> 01:37:20,359
don't move, just keep talking, just keep talking. But he's

1619
01:37:20,880 --> 01:37:24,119
both of those saw that one there, and then we

1620
01:37:24,199 --> 01:37:28,319
thermaled two. We thermaled an adult and a juvenile, which

1621
01:37:28,359 --> 01:37:32,079
I have thermals on these also, uh. And then we

1622
01:37:32,119 --> 01:37:33,319
had another one down there.

1623
01:37:33,680 --> 01:37:34,720
Speaker 17: I've got one.

1624
01:37:36,079 --> 01:37:44,319
Speaker 1: One video. I don't know it's it may be a

1625
01:37:44,399 --> 01:37:48,880
juvenile sasquatch, but I would lean more to a rake

1626
01:37:50,720 --> 01:37:54,319
coming down the tree in my research area. Came down

1627
01:37:54,439 --> 01:38:00,000
the tree, did the spider crawl, got about got up

1628
01:38:00,039 --> 01:38:03,720
to about six maybe sixty yards maybe yeah, give or

1629
01:38:03,800 --> 01:38:07,479
take maybe fifty sixty yards and was fixing it. Come.

1630
01:38:08,079 --> 01:38:10,079
Of course, I'm watching it on my thermal and I'm

1631
01:38:10,079 --> 01:38:12,479
taping it on my thermal. I can send you guys this,

1632
01:38:12,920 --> 01:38:15,760
y'all can kind of toss it around and see what

1633
01:38:15,800 --> 01:38:19,279
you think it is. But he was, he was. He

1634
01:38:19,399 --> 01:38:24,720
was heading straight toward me on crawling, doing a spider crawl.

1635
01:38:25,159 --> 01:38:28,760
And the person that was with me, she she got

1636
01:38:28,760 --> 01:38:32,319
buggered up and said, but when she went and jumped

1637
01:38:32,359 --> 01:38:35,239
in her jeet, well, the headlights come on, tail lights

1638
01:38:35,279 --> 01:38:37,960
come on, interior lights come on, and I suck her

1639
01:38:38,000 --> 01:38:41,560
exited stage left, and I showed it to my head

1640
01:38:41,560 --> 01:38:45,119
of security, and he's watching the original one, not the

1641
01:38:45,199 --> 01:38:47,399
clip that I took out of it, but he watched

1642
01:38:47,439 --> 01:38:50,600
the original one. He's like, what's this over here? What's

1643
01:38:50,720 --> 01:38:54,800
this over here? There was four or five of them

1644
01:38:55,159 --> 01:38:58,600
in the video that I didn't even see, but once

1645
01:38:58,640 --> 01:39:04,039
we got it up on a big screen on my computer,

1646
01:39:04,359 --> 01:39:07,199
then you could see where the other ones were.

1647
01:39:08,039 --> 01:39:10,399
Speaker 7: So when you say a rake, you're talking about these

1648
01:39:12,880 --> 01:39:17,560
white skinny Usually they're on all four with their butt

1649
01:39:17,560 --> 01:39:21,520
in the air and kind of Schmiegily. I guess kind

1650
01:39:21,520 --> 01:39:22,119
of a creature.

1651
01:39:22,560 --> 01:39:26,039
Speaker 17: Yeah, them are nasty. They're pretty nasty.

1652
01:39:26,399 --> 01:39:29,359
Speaker 7: Yeah, what do you know about those things?

1653
01:39:29,920 --> 01:39:32,319
Speaker 1: Uh? And and I can tell you on this.

1654
01:39:34,520 --> 01:39:36,600
Speaker 7: I had a guy that works for me. He had

1655
01:39:36,640 --> 01:39:38,600
one run in front of his car, and him and

1656
01:39:38,640 --> 01:39:41,600
his wife both saw it, and they said it's back

1657
01:39:41,840 --> 01:39:45,279
was higher than the hood of the car. But yet

1658
01:39:45,680 --> 01:39:49,000
then they should have hit it, but they didn't. They

1659
01:39:49,039 --> 01:39:52,680
said it rand just started out from the road on

1660
01:39:52,760 --> 01:39:55,479
a deserted you know, they're heading right in through farm

1661
01:39:55,520 --> 01:40:02,760
country out like that. And they said it was so weird.

1662
01:40:03,119 --> 01:40:04,920
Speaker 17: I'll have case end of that video.

1663
01:40:05,479 --> 01:40:06,199
Speaker 1: That's crazy.

1664
01:40:06,760 --> 01:40:10,680
Speaker 17: Maybe I'll can put some put some thought to it.

1665
01:40:11,000 --> 01:40:14,359
Speaker 7: Are these a new phenomenon? Davers is something that's been

1666
01:40:14,399 --> 01:40:15,359
around a long time.

1667
01:40:15,399 --> 01:40:17,279
Speaker 1: Do they've been around a long time? Yeah?

1668
01:40:18,399 --> 01:40:18,720
Speaker 3: Long time.

1669
01:40:18,760 --> 01:40:21,680
Speaker 7: Well, what's the scariest thing, you know, I want to

1670
01:40:21,680 --> 01:40:23,960
get into your faith and all sorts of stuff, but

1671
01:40:24,359 --> 01:40:27,319
I'm saving that for a little bit. What's kind of

1672
01:40:27,359 --> 01:40:32,479
the scariest encounter or the most pleasant encounter you've ever had,

1673
01:40:33,359 --> 01:40:35,359
or the you know what I mean, Just something that

1674
01:40:35,479 --> 01:40:36,800
really sticks in.

1675
01:40:38,279 --> 01:40:41,840
Speaker 1: Your brain. There's been a lot of bluff charges.

1676
01:40:41,479 --> 01:40:43,479
Speaker 17: That were pretty scary.

1677
01:40:44,520 --> 01:40:47,760
Speaker 1: I was deer hunting once and uh down in the

1678
01:40:47,800 --> 01:40:51,199
same area, and Uh, I was just kind of bored

1679
01:40:51,239 --> 01:40:53,239
setting up in the stand, so I just started slipping

1680
01:40:53,279 --> 01:40:53,880
through the woods.

1681
01:40:54,680 --> 01:40:55,399
Speaker 17: Uh.

1682
01:40:55,439 --> 01:41:03,520
Speaker 1: And big Eddie come Marilyn out of a thicket and

1683
01:41:03,640 --> 01:41:05,439
I'm in the woods. It's pretty of course, the woods

1684
01:41:05,479 --> 01:41:08,319
is pretty thick, but this big thicket and he come.

1685
01:41:08,640 --> 01:41:12,279
This the only time he's ever showed as aggression towards me.

1686
01:41:12,840 --> 01:41:15,319
Usually it's pretty docile. You know, you'll see him, he'll

1687
01:41:15,399 --> 01:41:17,800
kind of you know, turn around, walk off, or they'll

1688
01:41:17,840 --> 01:41:20,960
sit there and watch me fish at night because you

1689
01:41:20,960 --> 01:41:24,319
can always see the eye shine. And he come busting

1690
01:41:24,359 --> 01:41:25,640
out a thicket. Uh.

1691
01:41:25,920 --> 01:41:30,600
Speaker 17: Have you ever seen a gorilla charge the glass?

1692
01:41:31,000 --> 01:41:31,239
Speaker 1: Yeah?

1693
01:41:31,359 --> 01:41:33,720
Speaker 17: Oh yeah, it was kind of like that.

1694
01:41:33,920 --> 01:41:37,039
Speaker 7: He was so fast, they're so fast. Yeah.

1695
01:41:37,079 --> 01:41:40,680
Speaker 1: He covered eighty eighty yards just like that. I mean

1696
01:41:41,760 --> 01:41:45,359
almost before I could react. He he, I mean, he

1697
01:41:45,479 --> 01:41:47,800
was over there when I when he grabbed when he

1698
01:41:47,840 --> 01:41:50,720
come out, busted out of that thicket and started running

1699
01:41:50,760 --> 01:41:53,520
to me, and he was running like he was running

1700
01:41:53,560 --> 01:41:57,279
on all fours, and he was kind of sideways a

1701
01:41:57,319 --> 01:42:00,239
little bit, you know, he was running like directly at

1702
01:42:00,279 --> 01:42:03,119
the dog tracking. Yeah, yeah, what we call here in

1703
01:42:03,239 --> 01:42:06,399
Arksaw puppy tracking. He was puppy tracking because butt was

1704
01:42:06,399 --> 01:42:09,039
over over here like this, but he was he was

1705
01:42:09,119 --> 01:42:12,239
kind of a little sideways, but he was moving directly

1706
01:42:12,359 --> 01:42:15,960
toward me, and he got probably twenty feet from me

1707
01:42:16,199 --> 01:42:19,319
in open woods and just reached down to the ground

1708
01:42:19,359 --> 01:42:22,640
and just picked up and just shired me with.

1709
01:42:22,600 --> 01:42:25,720
Speaker 17: Dirt, limbs, really leaves, you know.

1710
01:42:25,720 --> 01:42:28,039
Speaker 1: I had leaves in my eyes and stuff like that,

1711
01:42:28,720 --> 01:42:32,720
and around walked off. And I talked to a couple

1712
01:42:32,800 --> 01:42:37,159
of researchers research friends of mine about that, and they

1713
01:42:37,199 --> 01:42:39,920
said that probably, you know, because I told him. I said, man,

1714
01:42:39,920 --> 01:42:42,880
this dude's been a docile. You know, you see him,

1715
01:42:42,920 --> 01:42:45,279
he'd kind of see you hit tur around walk off,

1716
01:42:46,479 --> 01:42:48,479
but this time he didn't. The only thing we could

1717
01:42:48,479 --> 01:42:52,680
figure out is there was possibly a new juvenile that

1718
01:42:52,800 --> 01:42:56,920
maybe I got close to that may have been tree

1719
01:42:56,960 --> 01:43:00,399
peeking at me or what, because he never did never

1720
01:43:00,479 --> 01:43:03,720
did do that afterwards, and I had a buddy of mine,

1721
01:43:03,960 --> 01:43:06,560
a researcher, you know, he almost got me killed on

1722
01:43:06,600 --> 01:43:10,359
that one there, because he told me, says mister Lumford,

1723
01:43:11,159 --> 01:43:17,760
He told me, always stand your ground and if you

1724
01:43:17,960 --> 01:43:22,039
run that predator instinct and them will cause them to chase.

1725
01:43:23,239 --> 01:43:24,920
Speaker 17: So I stood there.

1726
01:43:26,039 --> 01:43:30,199
Speaker 1: You know, I'm thinking, you know, I'm probably fixing go

1727
01:43:30,359 --> 01:43:34,239
meet Jesus, and my heart's right, so you know, if

1728
01:43:34,239 --> 01:43:36,720
it's the way that I'm going to end it, then

1729
01:43:36,720 --> 01:43:38,119
this is the way I'm going to end it. I

1730
01:43:38,159 --> 01:43:41,760
stood my ground and he ended up stopping throwing that

1731
01:43:41,760 --> 01:43:44,119
stuff on me in Toronto, walking off back in the thicket.

1732
01:43:44,439 --> 01:43:45,399
Speaker 7: What was that creature?

1733
01:43:45,560 --> 01:43:45,720
Speaker 9: Like?

1734
01:43:45,800 --> 01:43:47,399
Speaker 7: What was what color?

1735
01:43:47,560 --> 01:43:47,720
Speaker 9: Was it?

1736
01:43:48,119 --> 01:43:48,319
Speaker 7: Tall?

1737
01:43:49,960 --> 01:43:52,560
Speaker 1: Big Eddie he's almost eleven foot tall. When I first

1738
01:43:52,560 --> 01:43:54,880
saw him, he was probably nine and a half foot.

1739
01:43:55,720 --> 01:43:59,720
He has an eighteen inch track, which I've got pictures

1740
01:43:59,720 --> 01:44:00,520
of him tracks.

1741
01:44:01,199 --> 01:44:02,720
Speaker 17: Uh, And I casted one.

1742
01:44:02,760 --> 01:44:05,279
Speaker 1: It wasn't real good. It was in a sandbar, but

1743
01:44:05,439 --> 01:44:09,680
I found it real amazing because his track was about

1744
01:44:09,840 --> 01:44:12,720
two and a half inches in the gravel bar. I'm

1745
01:44:13,199 --> 01:44:16,640
back then, I was probably about two forty. I put

1746
01:44:16,680 --> 01:44:18,960
my foot next to that and bounced up and down

1747
01:44:18,960 --> 01:44:21,800
on one foot and I didn't even make a mark. Now,

1748
01:44:21,840 --> 01:44:25,399
Big Eddie, he's he's a hooker. He's he's he's all there.

1749
01:44:25,680 --> 01:44:30,000
He's all there. He's black. You get, he's kind of patchy.

1750
01:44:30,239 --> 01:44:33,239
Here on his chest. Not more much hair on the

1751
01:44:33,359 --> 01:44:37,279
chest and stuff. Now he looks like, uh, he's got.

1752
01:44:37,159 --> 01:44:39,600
Speaker 17: Long hairy gray in his hair.

1753
01:44:40,760 --> 01:44:45,159
Speaker 1: Uh no, no, Now I've have seen some that were gray.

1754
01:44:45,199 --> 01:44:47,399
I've even had seen one. It looked like a skunk,

1755
01:44:48,000 --> 01:44:51,640
kind of like a white strap down his back and interesting.

1756
01:44:52,279 --> 01:44:54,640
Speaker 17: But uh and the other ones, you know.

1757
01:44:55,119 --> 01:44:57,560
Speaker 1: Uh, Now, I noticed that the juveniles are a little

1758
01:44:57,600 --> 01:45:02,520
bit on the reddish side, and Big Eddie and the

1759
01:45:03,039 --> 01:45:08,560
two females that run with him are more black. But

1760
01:45:09,439 --> 01:45:11,199
he's just one of those big hole He wouldn't like

1761
01:45:11,239 --> 01:45:14,119
the first one I saw. He's a beast. He's all there.

1762
01:45:14,359 --> 01:45:16,880
Speaker 7: How big would you say? It's like biceps were.

1763
01:45:18,840 --> 01:45:24,159
Speaker 1: Man? Now, I know Hulk Hogan got twenty one inch biceps.

1764
01:45:25,880 --> 01:45:29,920
He had made him look small, very small, big huge

1765
01:45:30,119 --> 01:45:37,560
forms on these rascals. And you know a lot of people,

1766
01:45:38,800 --> 01:45:40,399
you know, when they go into the woods and stuff,

1767
01:45:40,399 --> 01:45:43,840
they're always scanned in the woods, and nobody.

1768
01:45:43,479 --> 01:45:44,199
Speaker 17: Scans the tree.

1769
01:45:44,239 --> 01:45:45,960
Speaker 1: I don't know how many times I've caught Big Eddy

1770
01:45:46,039 --> 01:45:49,399
in the tree or one of the juveniles in a tree.

1771
01:45:49,880 --> 01:45:51,760
And then when he hits the ground, he hits the

1772
01:45:51,760 --> 01:45:57,640
ground hard. So and he's also one with like buck teeth.

1773
01:45:57,840 --> 01:46:00,199
Now he didn't. He didn't look like he didn't look

1774
01:46:00,319 --> 01:46:02,760
like the ones that I saw. Now. I saw some

1775
01:46:03,920 --> 01:46:06,000
out in New Mexico when I lived out there. One

1776
01:46:06,000 --> 01:46:10,159
of them stole my turkey, which really angered me. I

1777
01:46:10,199 --> 01:46:14,920
was hunting Cloudcroft, New Mexico, up by Riodos in New Mexico.

1778
01:46:15,520 --> 01:46:16,239
Speaker 17: Good place to.

1779
01:46:16,199 --> 01:46:22,199
Speaker 1: Elk hunt, and uh and uh turkey hunt. And I'm

1780
01:46:22,239 --> 01:46:26,520
calling in two toms uphill now for you turkey hunters

1781
01:46:26,560 --> 01:46:28,640
out there, that's hard to do to get a tom

1782
01:46:28,720 --> 01:46:31,840
to either cross the road, across the creek or river,

1783
01:46:32,560 --> 01:46:35,319
or especially call them up hill. I've got two toms.

1784
01:46:35,399 --> 01:46:40,880
I can see their heads, and I'm already set.

1785
01:46:40,199 --> 01:46:40,520
Speaker 7: On a.

1786
01:46:42,159 --> 01:46:46,279
Speaker 1: Big cypress tree and I'm back like this, and well,

1787
01:46:46,359 --> 01:46:48,840
wasn't a cypress tree one of the big evergreen trees.

1788
01:46:49,680 --> 01:46:54,399
And I've got my back toward that, and I'm set

1789
01:46:54,439 --> 01:46:57,239
up my shotgun. I'm perfectly still. All I had to

1790
01:46:57,279 --> 01:46:59,279
do is let them come up just a little bit more.

1791
01:46:59,319 --> 01:47:01,319
Do I see which one had the longest beard? I

1792
01:47:01,359 --> 01:47:03,880
could have took him out. And then all I saw

1793
01:47:04,079 --> 01:47:06,840
was a big flash out of my peripheral vision on

1794
01:47:06,920 --> 01:47:11,119
my left and one that was huge I mean, now,

1795
01:47:11,199 --> 01:47:15,840
this guy was a hoaxter, big sucker. He ran across there,

1796
01:47:16,000 --> 01:47:20,119
grabbed one turkey fetters one everywhere, and just kept running.

1797
01:47:20,119 --> 01:47:22,600
He never stopped. I mean, he caught that sucker on

1798
01:47:22,640 --> 01:47:24,800
the run, grabbed it around the neck, and he was

1799
01:47:24,840 --> 01:47:27,399
out of there. Now, that one there, that sucker was

1800
01:47:27,479 --> 01:47:30,800
huge black. His hair was and it wouldn't like the

1801
01:47:30,840 --> 01:47:33,039
ones that I see down here. That one there was

1802
01:47:33,079 --> 01:47:36,880
pretty clean. I mean his hair was sharp. Could the

1803
01:47:36,960 --> 01:47:39,760
sunlight that was hitting on his hair, you could see

1804
01:47:39,800 --> 01:47:43,560
gloss gloss to it where the light would reflect off

1805
01:47:43,600 --> 01:47:44,319
of it and stuff.

1806
01:47:45,319 --> 01:47:52,960
Speaker 7: Yeah, I'm just like floored by some of the stuff

1807
01:47:52,960 --> 01:48:01,319
you've seen, Dave. Do you think that they are dangerous?

1808
01:48:01,359 --> 01:48:03,800
Do you think you're safe? You think it's all just

1809
01:48:03,960 --> 01:48:07,199
bluster and god like black bears do a lot of bluffing,

1810
01:48:08,680 --> 01:48:11,359
pull on the ground, clack their teeth. You know, they'll

1811
01:48:11,399 --> 01:48:13,600
they'll try to scare the living crap out of you,

1812
01:48:13,720 --> 01:48:17,760
but everybody usually walks away safe. Do you think that,

1813
01:48:18,720 --> 01:48:21,479
I mean, any kind of honest answer you can give

1814
01:48:21,560 --> 01:48:23,439
us a be awesome. What do you really think? Do

1815
01:48:23,479 --> 01:48:24,279
you think.

1816
01:48:26,800 --> 01:48:32,479
Speaker 1: From what I've seen and what I've experienced, I never

1817
01:48:32,520 --> 01:48:36,319
go into woods, not unless I go heavy. Okay, And

1818
01:48:36,359 --> 01:48:40,119
if anybody out there thinks that these things will not

1819
01:48:40,359 --> 01:48:45,760
take a human, they're absolutely wrong. Yeah, and I'll just

1820
01:48:45,840 --> 01:48:46,680
leave that one at.

1821
01:48:46,560 --> 01:48:54,199
Speaker 7: That, Okay. I mean, something that powerful and big and

1822
01:48:54,439 --> 01:48:57,840
vast could kill you by even accidental.

1823
01:48:58,359 --> 01:49:00,560
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah.

1824
01:49:00,560 --> 01:49:03,760
Speaker 7: Just even accidental. I mean, I see these people interact

1825
01:49:03,800 --> 01:49:06,479
with gorillas even once in a while, that gorilla will

1826
01:49:06,520 --> 01:49:09,840
grab one of them and just drag them off, and

1827
01:49:09,920 --> 01:49:12,880
you just don't know how it's gonna end, right right,

1828
01:49:13,520 --> 01:49:14,159
right now.

1829
01:49:14,439 --> 01:49:16,800
Speaker 1: I've had a lot of docile encounters. I've had more

1830
01:49:16,920 --> 01:49:21,000
docile encounters than I've had what I would call real

1831
01:49:21,319 --> 01:49:22,279
extreme counters.

1832
01:49:22,560 --> 01:49:25,159
Speaker 7: Do you think the females are more docile and you're

1833
01:49:25,159 --> 01:49:27,479
more likely to have a.

1834
01:49:27,920 --> 01:49:31,239
Speaker 1: Get around a juvenile females or the females are good,

1835
01:49:31,359 --> 01:49:33,640
but if you get around a juvenile they'll rip your

1836
01:49:33,680 --> 01:49:34,079
head off.

1837
01:49:34,880 --> 01:49:37,680
Speaker 7: Do you think you saw like, okay, you talked about

1838
01:49:37,680 --> 01:49:39,960
the one that really bluff charged you and you got

1839
01:49:40,000 --> 01:49:42,119
a great look at and it was throwing stuff up

1840
01:49:42,159 --> 01:49:45,760
in the air. Was that one trying to maybe distract

1841
01:49:45,840 --> 01:49:48,840
away from a family group that was over there, maybe

1842
01:49:48,880 --> 01:49:50,800
with a really young one or something.

1843
01:49:50,840 --> 01:49:52,600
Speaker 1: Do you think that's the reason.

1844
01:49:53,119 --> 01:49:55,800
Speaker 17: Absolutely, absolutely, that's the only time.

1845
01:49:55,880 --> 01:49:59,159
Speaker 1: And I saw him many encounters I encountered with these

1846
01:49:59,199 --> 01:50:02,000
guys for sick cheers. You know, I stayed out in

1847
01:50:02,039 --> 01:50:05,399
the woods. And then when my wife run off.

1848
01:50:05,560 --> 01:50:08,399
Speaker 17: Back in twenty three, that put me right square back

1849
01:50:08,439 --> 01:50:09,039
in the woods.

1850
01:50:09,520 --> 01:50:12,159
Speaker 1: And that's how I processed all that stuff, and that

1851
01:50:12,319 --> 01:50:18,520
just put me down for more encounters. I am disappointed

1852
01:50:19,199 --> 01:50:22,239
if I go into a hot spot and don't see one.

1853
01:50:22,880 --> 01:50:31,640
Speaker 7: Really, you know, you definitely need to join Dave.

1854
01:50:32,479 --> 01:50:34,760
Speaker 9: Yeah, well, I have a question backing up a little bit.

1855
01:50:35,159 --> 01:50:39,039
You said your your childhood and Connor, you said your

1856
01:50:39,119 --> 01:50:41,760
grandpa said there was hates down there. Did your grandpa

1857
01:50:43,319 --> 01:50:45,479
I think that bigfoot was a real animal or did

1858
01:50:45,479 --> 01:50:46,880
you think that was all just he.

1859
01:50:47,720 --> 01:50:50,279
Speaker 17: No, he knew it was a real flesh and blood animal.

1860
01:50:50,520 --> 01:50:53,319
Speaker 1: He knew that he actually saw them when he'd be

1861
01:50:53,359 --> 01:50:55,920
up there cutting them trees out with them cross cut calls,

1862
01:50:55,920 --> 01:50:57,800
and sometimes there'd be two of them up there on

1863
01:50:57,800 --> 01:50:59,920
the tree if it was real big cut the tops

1864
01:51:00,199 --> 01:51:02,000
than trees, and he said, I can see him running

1865
01:51:02,039 --> 01:51:04,680
down down in there, going from tree to tree, watching

1866
01:51:04,760 --> 01:51:06,119
us and seeing what we were doing.

1867
01:51:06,680 --> 01:51:08,640
Speaker 17: Of course, that was back. You know, he was born

1868
01:51:08,640 --> 01:51:09,560
in nineteen oh two.

1869
01:51:10,079 --> 01:51:13,640
Speaker 1: He said he was in his uh probably twenties, early

1870
01:51:13,720 --> 01:51:17,520
twenties back then when he was doing that, you know,

1871
01:51:17,640 --> 01:51:20,000
So that's that's way back to him.

1872
01:51:20,079 --> 01:51:22,439
Speaker 9: Yeah, big football just another creature in the words to him,

1873
01:51:23,279 --> 01:51:23,720
they were real.

1874
01:51:23,800 --> 01:51:26,279
Speaker 1: Well back then they always called him wild man's or hates.

1875
01:51:26,359 --> 01:51:30,760
My grandpa called it, yeah, boogers, that was another Yet

1876
01:51:31,359 --> 01:51:33,199
I have I never heard the word hate.

1877
01:51:33,199 --> 01:51:37,479
Speaker 7: I've been doing research for forty plus years and I've

1878
01:51:37,720 --> 01:51:41,760
never heard that term, right, But when you say it,

1879
01:51:41,760 --> 01:51:46,319
it sounds so natural. Yeah, that's It's like I've heard

1880
01:51:46,359 --> 01:51:48,960
it a million times, but I've never heard that term hate.

1881
01:51:50,039 --> 01:51:51,079
Speaker 17: That's what he called it.

1882
01:51:51,359 --> 01:51:56,800
Speaker 1: Haint got this wow grab gerstitious, I haint you know,

1883
01:51:57,560 --> 01:51:58,399
yeah I hate.

1884
01:51:59,159 --> 01:52:03,800
Speaker 7: Well that's because he yeah, they I don't know, that's

1885
01:52:03,840 --> 01:52:10,399
just mind blowing. I've never heard that term, right. So,

1886
01:52:10,399 --> 01:52:13,159
so you you agree with me that they're probably if

1887
01:52:13,159 --> 01:52:15,479
they would have been alone, they probably wouldn't have done that,

1888
01:52:15,640 --> 01:52:18,119
come out in the open and tried to intimidate you.

1889
01:52:18,840 --> 01:52:23,359
But they seem very they like to distract. It's kind

1890
01:52:23,399 --> 01:52:26,079
of my theory, like that somebody the little well they're

1891
01:52:26,199 --> 01:52:31,279
leaving and escaping. They're distracting your vision and what you've seen.

1892
01:52:31,399 --> 01:52:35,479
Speaker 1: I've had to do that plenty times. You don't worry

1893
01:52:35,479 --> 01:52:37,239
about the one that you see. You worry about the

1894
01:52:37,239 --> 01:52:38,279
ones that you don't see.

1895
01:52:38,359 --> 01:52:39,680
Speaker 7: Yeah, exactly.

1896
01:52:40,079 --> 01:52:43,000
Speaker 1: Sometimes there's rogue squatches out there, you know, one that

1897
01:52:43,159 --> 01:52:46,079
challenge the alpha male. He gets thrown out. Now that's

1898
01:52:46,119 --> 01:52:50,199
the most dangerous squatch there is in the woods. Absolutely, absolutely,

1899
01:52:50,319 --> 01:52:52,800
especially when you get two or three of those that

1900
01:52:52,920 --> 01:52:57,840
team up. That's uh, that's bad, real bad. How many

1901
01:52:57,840 --> 01:52:58,960
of these things?

1902
01:53:00,079 --> 01:53:02,319
Speaker 7: How many of these things do you think exist in

1903
01:53:02,439 --> 01:53:03,199
North America?

1904
01:53:03,359 --> 01:53:03,560
Speaker 14: Dave?

1905
01:53:03,800 --> 01:53:06,039
Speaker 7: What's your guests? Have you ever thought about that?

1906
01:53:07,239 --> 01:53:10,359
Speaker 1: A lot, a lot more than what people you know,

1907
01:53:10,840 --> 01:53:15,439
we've had something over North America. You know, everything depends

1908
01:53:14,960 --> 01:53:18,800
on it, like a species always depends on water and food.

1909
01:53:18,960 --> 01:53:19,720
Food supply.

1910
01:53:20,119 --> 01:53:22,399
Speaker 7: We sure have, don't you agree? I mean you're old

1911
01:53:22,479 --> 01:53:25,720
enough to know the food supply has gone up dramatically

1912
01:53:25,760 --> 01:53:26,960
since when we were kids.

1913
01:53:27,239 --> 01:53:30,880
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, and you agree. We have what we

1914
01:53:30,960 --> 01:53:34,319
call faraoh hawks down here. Now you got introduced and

1915
01:53:34,359 --> 01:53:40,399
they have gone totally. They're they're multiplying like like rabbits.

1916
01:53:40,039 --> 01:53:41,880
Speaker 7: And what a protein source?

1917
01:53:42,279 --> 01:53:47,279
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, for a for a big yeah, because there's

1918
01:53:47,279 --> 01:53:48,319
plenty of them out there.

1919
01:53:48,439 --> 01:53:53,239
Speaker 7: And how about deer populations in Arkansas? Has has that

1920
01:53:53,319 --> 01:53:57,760
increase of their population's gone crazy too? Since from when

1921
01:53:57,840 --> 01:54:00,840
you were a kid, I'm going from kid to today,

1922
01:54:00,880 --> 01:54:03,199
do you think the deer populations are way up?

1923
01:54:04,840 --> 01:54:06,520
Speaker 1: Yeah?

1924
01:54:06,560 --> 01:54:12,119
Speaker 7: So the food I mean, Okay, when I was a kid,

1925
01:54:12,279 --> 01:54:16,479
never saw a raptor any type, never a needle, no hawks,

1926
01:54:16,560 --> 01:54:22,079
no owls, nothing, Never saw any coyotes, never saw saw

1927
01:54:22,159 --> 01:54:27,000
one bobcat. My whole childhood, we never saw a deer.

1928
01:54:27,159 --> 01:54:30,760
There were no deer like in Minnesota. Was devoid of deer.

1929
01:54:30,800 --> 01:54:31,840
Speaker 1: They were over hunted.

1930
01:54:32,880 --> 01:54:35,199
Speaker 7: I made it would make the papers Dave when a

1931
01:54:35,239 --> 01:54:38,479
deer would be seen. Wow, yeah, it was a big deal.

1932
01:54:38,680 --> 01:54:41,199
And now I can't go on a bike ride without

1933
01:54:41,239 --> 01:54:42,279
seeing fifty of them.

1934
01:54:42,640 --> 01:54:48,279
Speaker 1: Right. Yeah. The food food source there, species will grow. Yeah,

1935
01:54:48,359 --> 01:54:51,680
they got food, water, But you know it's weird.

1936
01:54:51,720 --> 01:54:56,640
Speaker 7: The game birds too have gone up, turkeys, grouse, pheasants,

1937
01:54:56,720 --> 01:54:59,520
everything is flourishing right now.

1938
01:55:00,079 --> 01:55:03,720
Speaker 1: Here in Arkansas. You can in my area, you can

1939
01:55:04,000 --> 01:55:09,000
you can kill five deer a year per per tag. Yeah,

1940
01:55:09,000 --> 01:55:13,279
I'll get two bucks and three dos. Or you can

1941
01:55:13,319 --> 01:55:16,880
get four doughs one buck. I'm not much on killing dose.

1942
01:55:18,399 --> 01:55:20,720
I'll pop one every now and then, you know. And

1943
01:55:20,760 --> 01:55:24,960
that was another deal down there on my hunting lease.

1944
01:55:25,159 --> 01:55:27,600
You know, I interacted with these things and I actually

1945
01:55:27,640 --> 01:55:31,560
deer hunted down there at my gifting spot. And uh,

1946
01:55:33,159 --> 01:55:35,720
I was just you know, I knew they were there,

1947
01:55:35,960 --> 01:55:38,079
and I had a dough coming in and I went

1948
01:55:38,079 --> 01:55:43,199
ahead and popped her just for some camp meet. And

1949
01:55:43,319 --> 01:55:46,720
I talked to them all the time. May sound crazy,

1950
01:55:46,760 --> 01:55:48,479
but I let them know when I'm in the woods,

1951
01:55:48,600 --> 01:55:49,800
you know, I have no harm.

1952
01:55:49,840 --> 01:55:52,279
Speaker 17: We can share these woods. I'm only here to take

1953
01:55:52,319 --> 01:55:53,039
what I need.

1954
01:55:53,319 --> 01:55:55,359
Speaker 7: Well. The thing is, though, David, when you go in

1955
01:55:55,399 --> 01:55:58,880
the woods and you talk, you're not You're not a

1956
01:55:58,920 --> 01:56:03,119
predator at that point, you're completely not a predator because

1957
01:56:04,039 --> 01:56:06,920
you know, I've had experiences where the more you talk,

1958
01:56:06,960 --> 01:56:10,760
the more you see wildlife. Yeah, because they know you're

1959
01:56:10,800 --> 01:56:14,640
not hunting, because you're not being quiet. See.

1960
01:56:15,279 --> 01:56:18,119
Speaker 1: Well, I killed that one shot that one doze off

1961
01:56:18,159 --> 01:56:20,560
to the left of me, maybe forty yards. She didn't

1962
01:56:20,560 --> 01:56:23,520
see me on my groundline, and I popped her, and

1963
01:56:24,279 --> 01:56:26,800
I knew I'd already been hearing tree knocks around me.

1964
01:56:26,800 --> 01:56:29,319
I'd always hear tree knocks down there, and so I

1965
01:56:29,439 --> 01:56:32,119
just talked to him. I said, hey, I'm down the

1966
01:56:32,159 --> 01:56:36,840
deer and I'm gutted here. I said, if you want

1967
01:56:36,840 --> 01:56:39,880
a piece of this part of this meat, I said,

1968
01:56:39,960 --> 01:56:42,760
y'all bang on one of them trees over there. And

1969
01:56:42,800 --> 01:56:46,479
it was probably about ten minutes you heard pop. And

1970
01:56:46,520 --> 01:56:49,439
so I cut a ham off that deer. After I

1971
01:56:49,560 --> 01:56:52,159
gutted it out and left it there, pulled the rest

1972
01:56:52,199 --> 01:56:54,800
of it, got it on my fo widder, and I

1973
01:56:54,840 --> 01:56:56,760
headed on out. When I come back in there the

1974
01:56:56,800 --> 01:57:00,760
next morning, that ham was gone and the guts were

1975
01:57:00,840 --> 01:57:05,720
still there, but like the heart, liver, kidneys, all that

1976
01:57:05,760 --> 01:57:07,239
stuff was gone with that.

1977
01:57:07,479 --> 01:57:10,319
Speaker 7: Do you think that's primarily what they eat when they

1978
01:57:10,520 --> 01:57:13,279
kill like a whether it's aug or dear, They eat

1979
01:57:13,279 --> 01:57:16,239
the liver, They eat some of the bigger organs and

1980
01:57:16,359 --> 01:57:18,840
leave the intestines and all that.

1981
01:57:18,720 --> 01:57:23,399
Speaker 1: Stuff in mind counters, I say, yeah, you know, they

1982
01:57:23,439 --> 01:57:26,680
all eat the soft tissue ones, and and of course

1983
01:57:26,720 --> 01:57:27,520
they all eat the meat.

1984
01:57:28,000 --> 01:57:30,479
Speaker 17: They ain't gonna you know, they ain't gonna pass up

1985
01:57:30,520 --> 01:57:31,239
on a free meal.

1986
01:57:32,800 --> 01:57:35,039
Speaker 1: And that was just the relationship that I built with

1987
01:57:35,079 --> 01:57:39,399
these five down there, possibly six now, but it was

1988
01:57:39,439 --> 01:57:43,000
crazy down there. They were. I would every time I

1989
01:57:43,039 --> 01:57:45,359
want in the woods that come around. I had one

1990
01:57:45,520 --> 01:57:49,640
thaw a plastic jar at me that was yeller and

1991
01:57:49,680 --> 01:57:53,439
it was half full of dirt. And I'm sitting there

1992
01:57:53,439 --> 01:57:55,720
on my groundbline. I've already heard true tree knocks. I'm

1993
01:57:55,760 --> 01:57:57,720
sitting here log it in on my phone and I

1994
01:57:57,800 --> 01:58:03,800
hear something bounce off the side of my my ground

1995
01:58:03,840 --> 01:58:05,920
blind that I was in and I kind of looked

1996
01:58:05,920 --> 01:58:08,239
over at it, and there's a jar that's about that

1997
01:58:08,239 --> 01:58:11,279
big around. It's plastic. I really did with screwed on.

1998
01:58:11,319 --> 01:58:13,560
It's about half full of dirt that they threw and

1999
01:58:13,680 --> 01:58:16,399
bounced it off my I figured that was one of

2000
01:58:16,439 --> 01:58:19,399
the juveniles because they're the only ones that threw rocks

2001
01:58:19,439 --> 01:58:19,680
at me.

2002
01:58:22,640 --> 01:58:26,159
Speaker 7: Crazy man, You've I had no idea you had that

2003
01:58:26,319 --> 01:58:34,560
many experiences. So okay, So the populations of these things,

2004
01:58:34,600 --> 01:58:38,840
you believe they're expanding. I do too, because of the

2005
01:58:38,880 --> 01:58:46,560
food sources are just exploded. And do you do you

2006
01:58:46,600 --> 01:58:49,000
have a number that you think about, like how many

2007
01:58:49,039 --> 01:58:52,319
do you think there are in the US or even

2008
01:58:52,399 --> 01:58:55,560
just North America alone, you know, including Canada. Do you

2009
01:58:55,600 --> 01:58:57,760
ever think about the amount?

2010
01:58:58,119 --> 01:59:00,359
Speaker 1: Well, I know they're in Canada, the United State States,

2011
01:59:00,359 --> 01:59:06,039
in Mexico. Uh but because I've seen them in all

2012
01:59:06,039 --> 01:59:10,039
three different places. But man to put a number on

2013
01:59:10,119 --> 01:59:15,680
these things, I don't know, putt. I believe there's more

2014
01:59:17,479 --> 01:59:20,720
now than there was when I was a kid, Yeah

2015
01:59:22,920 --> 01:59:25,520
for sure. Yeah.

2016
01:59:26,119 --> 01:59:30,520
Speaker 7: And the the hogs alone could have come for a

2017
01:59:30,640 --> 01:59:32,520
huge population increasing food.

2018
01:59:33,560 --> 01:59:33,800
Speaker 1: Yeah.

2019
01:59:34,479 --> 01:59:39,239
Speaker 7: And the hogs breed so quick and and they're they're

2020
01:59:39,279 --> 01:59:42,039
they're they're going to head they're heading into Minnesota now

2021
01:59:42,079 --> 01:59:46,399
from the south and the north, and they're definitely going

2022
01:59:46,479 --> 01:59:49,199
to be here in Minnesota. Are you glad there's hogs

2023
01:59:49,279 --> 01:59:49,880
where you live?

2024
01:59:50,039 --> 01:59:51,079
Speaker 9: Or you love?

2025
01:59:52,039 --> 01:59:52,279
Speaker 7: You do?

2026
01:59:52,399 --> 01:59:52,680
Speaker 1: Okay?

2027
01:59:52,840 --> 01:59:54,680
Speaker 17: So we're just kind of crazy with it though.

2028
01:59:54,880 --> 01:59:56,560
Speaker 1: You know. We'll get the dogs to bay them. We

2029
01:59:56,600 --> 01:59:58,680
don't shoot them. We go in there with with our

2030
01:59:59,000 --> 02:00:02,119
bully knives and we meet them on their level.

2031
02:00:02,840 --> 02:00:06,560
Speaker 17: So we'll just shake them.

2032
02:00:05,159 --> 02:00:07,560
Speaker 1: Getting on their level. And you know, because I wanted things,

2033
02:00:07,600 --> 02:00:10,880
I eat you, you know, But I'm a bit of adrenaline, jokie,

2034
02:00:11,039 --> 02:00:12,800
So I love I love hugging.

2035
02:00:14,760 --> 02:00:19,439
Speaker 7: Yeah, Okay, Dave, somebody said you were about house. I

2036
02:00:19,520 --> 02:00:24,880
believe it, you know, Okay, I don't want to ignore

2037
02:00:24,960 --> 02:00:28,960
the part where you're known also as the Bigfoot Preacher?

2038
02:00:29,880 --> 02:00:33,319
Can you explain that all to us.

2039
02:00:33,159 --> 02:00:36,319
Speaker 1: That once I come clean and that's kind of like

2040
02:00:36,399 --> 02:00:42,199
a new title. Is the Christian Church ready for this

2041
02:00:43,600 --> 02:00:48,840
type of CRYPTI No, not at all. Uh, you know, uh,

2042
02:00:49,199 --> 02:00:51,760
when I just kind of kind of come out.

2043
02:00:51,680 --> 02:00:53,760
Speaker 17: Of the closet just a little bit.

2044
02:00:54,039 --> 02:00:57,239
Speaker 1: I was pastoring a church here for eight and a

2045
02:00:57,279 --> 02:01:00,319
half years in the town that I'm in now, and

2046
02:01:00,399 --> 02:01:02,479
when i'd have encounters, you know, i'd kind of share

2047
02:01:02,479 --> 02:01:04,720
it with my church a little bit. You know, half

2048
02:01:04,720 --> 02:01:09,000
found some eighteen inch tracks. You know, they weren't ready

2049
02:01:09,000 --> 02:01:12,119
for all that. You know what the church don't understand.

2050
02:01:13,039 --> 02:01:13,279
Speaker 10: Uh.

2051
02:01:13,359 --> 02:01:15,640
Speaker 1: And I was recently in a ministry and kind of

2052
02:01:15,640 --> 02:01:19,000
got ridiculed and had to end up believing that ministry

2053
02:01:21,960 --> 02:01:27,600
because what they can't label, they'll call it a demon.

2054
02:01:28,600 --> 02:01:32,560
You know, you're chasing demons and these things are not demons.

2055
02:01:33,279 --> 02:01:38,119
You know, I believe they're flesh and blood. But yet

2056
02:01:38,760 --> 02:01:44,760
they've pulled some stuff on me that I mean, you

2057
02:01:44,800 --> 02:01:51,560
just can't explain it. You can't explain it. Yeah, thank

2058
02:01:51,560 --> 02:01:54,000
god they don't fold their poop. I just saw a

2059
02:01:54,000 --> 02:01:58,159
comment on them. Wow. Yeah, yeah, yeah, like monkeys in

2060
02:01:58,199 --> 02:02:03,119
the zoo. But I had one. I was up in

2061
02:02:03,199 --> 02:02:07,680
the os Ark Mountains and I'm on an od logging road.

2062
02:02:07,800 --> 02:02:10,479
It's it's probably two or three o'clock in the morning.

2063
02:02:10,720 --> 02:02:15,279
I find in my investigations, especially as getting hot, like

2064
02:02:15,319 --> 02:02:18,600
it's getting hot now, the best time is two am

2065
02:02:18,680 --> 02:02:21,079
to five thirty. I don't know what it is about

2066
02:02:21,079 --> 02:02:25,680
five thirty, but I have seen in different locations, I've

2067
02:02:25,680 --> 02:02:29,359
seen more between those ires closer to five thirty.

2068
02:02:29,640 --> 02:02:31,800
Speaker 7: You're knocking am five thirty morning.

2069
02:02:32,159 --> 02:02:33,600
Speaker 17: Yeah, yeah, in the morning.

2070
02:02:34,199 --> 02:02:38,159
Speaker 1: And most people that you know go bigfoot, they just

2071
02:02:38,199 --> 02:02:39,399
go out there, you know.

2072
02:02:39,800 --> 02:02:42,680
Speaker 17: And I've seen it in my community as well.

2073
02:02:43,199 --> 02:02:46,119
Speaker 1: You know, they they head back to the camp, you know,

2074
02:02:46,199 --> 02:02:50,439
about eleven o'clock. They'll jump in bed. It's like, you know, hey,

2075
02:02:51,319 --> 02:02:53,840
these things are, you know, kind of nocturnal.

2076
02:02:53,880 --> 02:02:56,279
Speaker 17: When it gets hot, we need to you know, but

2077
02:02:56,439 --> 02:02:57,399
I'll go by myself.

2078
02:02:57,439 --> 02:03:00,479
Speaker 1: It doesn't matter. But this is this was one encounter

2079
02:03:00,560 --> 02:03:04,319
that really freaked me out. And this encounter wasn't too

2080
02:03:04,319 --> 02:03:09,800
far back. Heard a tree knocks me and somebody else

2081
02:03:09,960 --> 02:03:15,199
heard a tree knock, and probably eighty yards off. So

2082
02:03:15,239 --> 02:03:17,359
we kind of hunkered down right there. Now we're in

2083
02:03:17,399 --> 02:03:19,840
the middle of the those ark mountains. It is it is,

2084
02:03:19,920 --> 02:03:22,399
you know, no light, you don't see your hand in

2085
02:03:22,399 --> 02:03:25,119
front of your face. Dark. I mean it was oohye dark.

2086
02:03:26,079 --> 02:03:32,079
And I caught him tree peek in probably eighty yards out.

2087
02:03:33,279 --> 02:03:35,800
Speaker 17: And what this one did. We hunkered down.

2088
02:03:36,199 --> 02:03:38,920
Speaker 1: We hit him with two thermals, and he would go

2089
02:03:38,960 --> 02:03:41,520
from tree to tree, kind of getting closer, kind of

2090
02:03:41,560 --> 02:03:45,439
getting closer. Now, this is a period of maybe an

2091
02:03:45,479 --> 02:03:50,039
hour and a half. This encounter took about two hours

2092
02:03:50,439 --> 02:03:54,199
for it to come to the end of it. And

2093
02:03:54,239 --> 02:03:55,720
he would stay out there behind the tree and he

2094
02:03:55,720 --> 02:04:00,800
would peek, he'd peak, and then he get closer tree

2095
02:04:00,840 --> 02:04:02,000
to tree.

2096
02:04:02,239 --> 02:04:06,319
Speaker 17: Now, these are big, giant woods, never been logged.

2097
02:04:06,399 --> 02:04:10,199
Speaker 1: This is in a national forest here in Arkansas, and

2098
02:04:10,279 --> 02:04:13,399
so there's some huge trees and we're on a logging road.

2099
02:04:13,880 --> 02:04:17,960
But yet we're about thirty yards out from the logging road.

2100
02:04:18,000 --> 02:04:21,199
It was real dense woods. And finally he come up

2101
02:04:21,319 --> 02:04:25,840
right up thirty yards from us. He's standing there, he's

2102
02:04:26,079 --> 02:04:31,079
he's lit up white. And then you can hear him.

2103
02:04:31,359 --> 02:04:34,880
I could hear him with my ears pushing through the brush.

2104
02:04:35,239 --> 02:04:38,840
And he pushed through the brush about ten yards and

2105
02:04:38,880 --> 02:04:44,119
then completely disappeared. Now I heard him pushing through the

2106
02:04:44,159 --> 02:04:50,079
woods coming at us, But when he disappeared, there were

2107
02:04:50,159 --> 02:04:53,399
no you couldn't hear nothing, no tracks leading out. There

2108
02:04:53,479 --> 02:04:57,239
was no thermer, no, no nothing. It just he was gone.

2109
02:04:57,520 --> 02:05:00,840
He was gone. How he did that, I don't have

2110
02:05:00,960 --> 02:05:04,600
the slightest idea. That's the first one I've ever ever

2111
02:05:06,239 --> 02:05:08,560
ever had one do that to me. And that kind

2112
02:05:08,600 --> 02:05:10,159
of bloogered me up a little bit. It kind of

2113
02:05:10,439 --> 02:05:12,000
kind of scared me a little bit because you've got

2114
02:05:12,000 --> 02:05:13,600
this guy's I thought he was gonna come out and

2115
02:05:13,600 --> 02:05:17,119
shake her hand. There he is, and in bam, he's gone. Disapperiod.

2116
02:05:17,800 --> 02:05:20,159
Speaker 17: You know, we were both blowed away on that one.

2117
02:05:20,199 --> 02:05:20,359
Speaker 14: There.

2118
02:05:20,439 --> 02:05:24,039
Speaker 1: That was probably the most craziest one I ever had.

2119
02:05:26,439 --> 02:05:30,399
The most funniest one I ever had is I don't

2120
02:05:30,439 --> 02:05:33,279
know if you guys ever seen a pop belly. This

2121
02:05:33,319 --> 02:05:34,640
one was kind of old. He had a lot of

2122
02:05:34,680 --> 02:05:38,720
gray on him. He's standing out sixty yards and he's

2123
02:05:38,079 --> 02:05:40,600
he had a big old pop that. It looked like

2124
02:05:40,640 --> 02:05:42,319
he had a big beer belly, and he was kind

2125
02:05:42,319 --> 02:05:45,479
of hunkered down pretty good. So I took him as

2126
02:05:45,560 --> 02:05:51,239
one that was well aged and he was standing behind

2127
02:05:51,239 --> 02:05:54,920
a pine tree, probably about ten inches around. You could

2128
02:05:55,000 --> 02:05:58,039
see his butt. It may be a little bit bigger

2129
02:05:58,039 --> 02:05:59,319
than that, but you could see his butt. You can

2130
02:05:59,359 --> 02:06:01,920
see his pop. And what he would do is he'd

2131
02:06:01,920 --> 02:06:04,439
put his the trees right here, and he knew I

2132
02:06:04,560 --> 02:06:07,039
was over there, and he would peek around like this

2133
02:06:07,439 --> 02:06:09,960
and look at me, and then he'd go back, and

2134
02:06:09,960 --> 02:06:12,159
then he'd peek around the back of that tree and

2135
02:06:12,199 --> 02:06:15,359
look back. And I'm sitting there laughing at him. I said, dude,

2136
02:06:15,439 --> 02:06:17,640
I see you. I said, I can see your but

2137
02:06:17,920 --> 02:06:20,640
I can see your fat belly hanging out there. That

2138
02:06:20,800 --> 02:06:24,560
was the funniest, uh, the funniest Sauda and I ever had.

2139
02:06:24,920 --> 02:06:26,479
And he stood there for just a little bit and

2140
02:06:26,520 --> 02:06:28,840
then he just turned around walked away. That was a

2141
02:06:28,840 --> 02:06:30,920
docile one, but it was hilarious him trying to hide

2142
02:06:30,960 --> 02:06:33,479
behind that little bitty tree and his big old pop

2143
02:06:33,520 --> 02:06:34,399
belly sticking out.

2144
02:06:35,319 --> 02:06:38,439
Speaker 7: Usually. How do you know it wasn't a pregnant female.

2145
02:06:40,520 --> 02:06:41,119
Everything of that.

2146
02:06:41,640 --> 02:06:43,239
Speaker 1: I didn't never see no movies.

2147
02:06:43,800 --> 02:06:47,840
Speaker 7: Well maybe I know, but I was thinking.

2148
02:06:48,359 --> 02:06:50,960
Speaker 17: I was thinking about the Freeman with a big bud.

2149
02:06:51,399 --> 02:06:53,800
Speaker 7: Yeah, I was thinking about the Freeman footage. And now

2150
02:06:53,840 --> 02:06:57,119
one's got a big pot belly too, and we've since

2151
02:06:57,199 --> 02:06:59,600
determined it's it's a big jill.

2152
02:07:00,800 --> 02:07:01,079
Speaker 1: Wow.

2153
02:07:02,760 --> 02:07:05,479
Speaker 7: And I just it's just a thought. If you haven't

2154
02:07:05,520 --> 02:07:06,000
thought of it.

2155
02:07:06,039 --> 02:07:08,800
Speaker 1: That could be a thought. But yeah, I could tell

2156
02:07:08,840 --> 02:07:11,279
it was an older one by the way, you know,

2157
02:07:11,439 --> 02:07:15,079
because ninety nine percent of these things have a kind

2158
02:07:15,119 --> 02:07:18,199
of slump to them, you know, left their heads. They

2159
02:07:18,239 --> 02:07:23,560
looked reminds me of an autistic kid. And but this

2160
02:07:23,560 --> 02:07:25,880
one was hung way over and you could see silver

2161
02:07:26,159 --> 02:07:29,600
in his hair. Yeah you know, uh, he wouldn't. He

2162
02:07:29,720 --> 02:07:32,079
wasn't as hairy as most of them. You know, you

2163
02:07:32,119 --> 02:07:35,079
could pretty much see his skin through there.

2164
02:07:35,680 --> 02:07:38,359
Speaker 7: Maybe you know, it could have been an older female

2165
02:07:38,520 --> 02:07:39,359
that was breeding.

2166
02:07:41,000 --> 02:07:42,479
Speaker 1: That could be very well. I didn't even think.

2167
02:07:42,600 --> 02:07:44,680
Speaker 7: Maybe the hair is worn on from all the kids

2168
02:07:44,680 --> 02:07:45,520
climbing on her.

2169
02:07:45,840 --> 02:07:49,840
Speaker 1: Her big booty hanging out. And yeah, I just figured

2170
02:07:49,840 --> 02:07:51,720
he had too many beers, is what I figured.

2171
02:07:52,000 --> 02:07:54,760
Speaker 7: I didn't expect to be able to teach you anything tonight, David,

2172
02:07:54,760 --> 02:07:58,479
But what the hell, take a shot at it.

2173
02:07:58,960 --> 02:08:00,479
Speaker 1: Yeah, there you go, there you go.

2174
02:08:01,079 --> 02:08:07,239
Speaker 7: Oh man, this is so amazing. Do you feel that

2175
02:08:07,439 --> 02:08:09,439
this mystery is ever going to be solved?

2176
02:08:09,720 --> 02:08:09,880
Speaker 3: Uh?

2177
02:08:10,319 --> 02:08:12,680
Speaker 7: Or do you think we're getting close? Do you think

2178
02:08:13,479 --> 02:08:15,840
you know, the DNA obviously is getting better and better

2179
02:08:15,840 --> 02:08:18,079
and better and better, even though we haven't really seen

2180
02:08:18,119 --> 02:08:22,720
anything yet. There's got to be some stuff that's incredible

2181
02:08:22,760 --> 02:08:23,439
and released.

2182
02:08:23,600 --> 02:08:29,159
Speaker 1: Nay soon, Well, that pretty much is probably already figured out.

2183
02:08:29,920 --> 02:08:31,840
Speaker 7: Bye. Yeah, but we're not getting the info.

2184
02:08:32,239 --> 02:08:37,079
Speaker 1: We're not getting the info. I've got the way Trump's rolling,

2185
02:08:37,239 --> 02:08:39,479
you know, he's giving out all these UFO stuff.

2186
02:08:39,600 --> 02:08:41,359
Speaker 17: I figured he's gonna give up the bigfoots.

2187
02:08:41,600 --> 02:08:43,840
Speaker 7: I wouldn't you know that, wouldn't I don't think i'd

2188
02:08:43,880 --> 02:08:45,920
be shocked if all of a sudden he said, hey,

2189
02:08:46,079 --> 02:08:49,640
you know, we need to disclose this too, And I wouldn't.

2190
02:08:49,279 --> 02:08:52,079
Speaker 17: Shock me a bit.

2191
02:08:52,279 --> 02:08:55,359
Speaker 7: And it's there's no way that the government wouldn't have

2192
02:08:55,399 --> 02:08:58,640
been studying these things. There no way.

2193
02:08:59,399 --> 02:09:01,640
Speaker 1: I guarantee they are guarantee they have been.

2194
02:09:02,800 --> 02:09:07,000
Speaker 17: And Papa G knows everything exactly.

2195
02:09:07,840 --> 02:09:11,960
Speaker 7: I love it. I love your terms the government. Yeah,

2196
02:09:12,039 --> 02:09:14,600
Poppa G. That's awesome.

2197
02:09:15,720 --> 02:09:28,279
Speaker 1: And I guys that were uh uh cryptid retrieval specialist.

2198
02:09:31,239 --> 02:09:34,920
And I'll just leave that one right there. So does

2199
02:09:34,960 --> 02:09:40,000
Papa G know? Absolutely interesting?

2200
02:09:40,520 --> 02:09:45,159
Speaker 9: M hm, Doug, I got a little I got a

2201
02:09:45,199 --> 02:09:48,159
little Uh, can we do a little detour because this

2202
02:09:48,239 --> 02:09:50,239
is I did a little deep digging. This is super

2203
02:09:50,279 --> 02:09:51,720
interesting talking about hates.

2204
02:09:52,920 --> 02:09:53,720
Speaker 7: What oh hans?

2205
02:09:54,000 --> 02:09:55,920
Speaker 17: Yeah, always been over doing a word study.

2206
02:09:56,319 --> 02:09:58,880
Speaker 9: I just did a little side digging here. And apparently

2207
02:09:59,039 --> 02:10:02,760
there's a thing called heat blue. It's a color that

2208
02:10:02,920 --> 02:10:05,520
is traditionally used in southern homes like you see on

2209
02:10:05,560 --> 02:10:09,359
that road that keeps them away. And apparently the it

2210
02:10:09,399 --> 02:10:13,880
mimics the color of water and ghosts in the beliefs

2211
02:10:13,960 --> 02:10:17,520
that hates or ghosts can't can't cross water. So there

2212
02:10:17,680 --> 02:10:20,560
is uh, it's like that pale blue is it's an

2213
02:10:20,560 --> 02:10:23,239
actual shade of blue. Now that's now called hate blue.

2214
02:10:24,239 --> 02:10:30,760
That's ward off. They can't cross it. Yeah, like what

2215
02:10:32,000 --> 02:10:33,239
they won't will cross?

2216
02:10:33,239 --> 02:10:36,239
Speaker 7: That color kind of reminds me of go away green.

2217
02:10:36,359 --> 02:10:38,640
You know that Disney uses to paint all of the

2218
02:10:38,680 --> 02:10:40,159
stuff they don't want you to see.

2219
02:10:40,640 --> 02:10:44,439
Speaker 9: Yeah, go away green is a real color. Now that

2220
02:10:44,439 --> 02:10:44,800
that's where.

2221
02:10:44,800 --> 02:10:48,119
Speaker 7: That's where now, David, that's the second thing we touch

2222
02:10:48,199 --> 02:10:48,640
you today.

2223
02:10:49,840 --> 02:10:52,800
Speaker 17: Right, I'm not too well to learn, you know.

2224
02:10:53,119 --> 02:10:55,479
Speaker 1: No, It's like a lot of people come to me

2225
02:10:55,560 --> 02:10:57,479
with their sttings, you know, and the way I look

2226
02:10:57,520 --> 02:10:59,479
at it like that. It's not for me to judge

2227
02:10:59,520 --> 02:11:03,119
them about their sottings or anything like that. This is

2228
02:11:03,199 --> 02:11:05,640
what they perceived.

2229
02:11:05,159 --> 02:11:06,840
Speaker 17: In that moment, you know.

2230
02:11:08,560 --> 02:11:10,560
Speaker 1: You know, I've seen a lot of big guys in

2231
02:11:10,600 --> 02:11:13,319
this world, you know, call them out, call them liars

2232
02:11:13,319 --> 02:11:15,039
and stuff like that. You know, you just don't treat

2233
02:11:15,119 --> 02:11:17,800
people like that. That's what they perceived when.

2234
02:11:17,600 --> 02:11:19,600
Speaker 17: They in that moment in time.

2235
02:11:19,960 --> 02:11:22,319
Speaker 1: You weren't there, so showed up.

2236
02:11:24,159 --> 02:11:27,720
Speaker 7: It's interesting that that heat blue is blue because I've

2237
02:11:27,760 --> 02:11:31,359
always I've told people, and I've seen too much evidence

2238
02:11:31,399 --> 02:11:34,720
of it, that Bigfoot's favorite color is blue.

2239
02:11:34,840 --> 02:11:36,279
Speaker 9: Yeah, that's kind of like it stuck out when I

2240
02:11:36,319 --> 02:11:37,000
saw that term.

2241
02:11:37,239 --> 02:11:41,680
Speaker 7: Oh so you connected those dots. Yeah, have you ever

2242
02:11:42,000 --> 02:11:44,880
like figured out like if you leave things out, is

2243
02:11:44,920 --> 02:11:47,960
there a color they seem to like? Dave down there.

2244
02:11:49,199 --> 02:11:50,960
Speaker 17: That I really haven't paid attention.

2245
02:11:51,039 --> 02:11:52,960
Speaker 7: I'll try try some blue stuff.

2246
02:11:53,079 --> 02:11:53,840
Speaker 17: I'll try that.

2247
02:11:54,119 --> 02:11:55,600
Speaker 1: I'll try that, Yeah, and.

2248
02:11:55,640 --> 02:11:58,800
Speaker 7: See if or like, you know, a couple of red

2249
02:11:58,800 --> 02:12:00,840
things and a couple of blue things, and see if

2250
02:12:01,000 --> 02:12:02,079
the blue goes missing.

2251
02:12:02,439 --> 02:12:05,119
Speaker 9: Yeah, maybe they like blue for the same reason keeps

2252
02:12:04,720 --> 02:12:05,920
you from them too.

2253
02:12:08,399 --> 02:12:12,479
Speaker 7: But what's so cool about you?

2254
02:12:12,680 --> 02:12:12,920
Speaker 9: Dave?

2255
02:12:13,039 --> 02:12:16,479
Speaker 7: Is that you know, you're obviously in some really good areas.

2256
02:12:18,359 --> 02:12:22,800
They're obviously you. Whatever you're doing, you're not scaring them off.

2257
02:12:24,880 --> 02:12:30,039
You're probably if you're marked, you're definitely marked, and you

2258
02:12:30,119 --> 02:12:33,520
have it, you know, more chances to do experiments like

2259
02:12:33,600 --> 02:12:38,600
that that are harmless to them. But yeah, but could

2260
02:12:38,640 --> 02:12:42,159
provide a lot of info spot that.

2261
02:12:42,199 --> 02:12:46,560
Speaker 1: I've been investigating that. Again, I've only done the tip

2262
02:12:46,600 --> 02:12:48,880
of the iceberg, but I was thinking about setting the

2263
02:12:48,960 --> 02:12:51,600
gifting area down there as well.

2264
02:12:51,840 --> 02:12:57,279
Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, that'd be a well, that'd be

2265
02:12:57,319 --> 02:13:02,600
a great thing to try. Blue and blue. You know,

2266
02:13:02,640 --> 02:13:04,840
I've thought about why would they like blue? Well, it's

2267
02:13:04,920 --> 02:13:07,800
one of the few colors in nature. Look at the

2268
02:13:07,840 --> 02:13:12,960
sky is blue, the water is blue. They like fruit

2269
02:13:13,199 --> 02:13:16,479
is probably you know, their favorite fruit is probably blue.

2270
02:13:16,600 --> 02:13:20,640
Blah blah blah. And if they if they if they

2271
02:13:20,680 --> 02:13:23,760
can see in the UV range. Did you ever use

2272
02:13:23,760 --> 02:13:26,840
a UV flashlight in any of your studies.

2273
02:13:27,880 --> 02:13:34,439
Speaker 1: Yeah, I recently I've got a UV strobe black and

2274
02:13:35,000 --> 02:13:37,399
they didn't really like that much.

2275
02:13:37,760 --> 02:13:39,159
Speaker 7: Nobody likes stroke lips.

2276
02:13:41,239 --> 02:13:45,560
Speaker 1: We were up doing an investigation with another crew. They

2277
02:13:45,600 --> 02:13:48,720
invited me to go along with them, and we were

2278
02:13:48,760 --> 02:13:51,800
in this one area and it was white cool. You know.

2279
02:13:51,840 --> 02:13:54,079
Speaker 17: They showed me a couple of different areas in there.

2280
02:13:54,239 --> 02:13:58,600
Speaker 1: And uh and one place they call the worship Center,

2281
02:13:58,880 --> 02:14:03,880
and it's it's like all these logs piled piled up

2282
02:14:03,920 --> 02:14:07,520
and around this, I mean with different like structures and stuff,

2283
02:14:07,560 --> 02:14:11,119
but ahead of it has the big ex at the

2284
02:14:11,159 --> 02:14:14,319
head of where this place is, which we found. You know,

2285
02:14:14,439 --> 02:14:16,199
soon as we got in there, we heard a whoop

2286
02:14:16,439 --> 02:14:19,720
and that was the only thing we heard at that time.

2287
02:14:20,439 --> 02:14:24,600
And then we kind of went back up to where

2288
02:14:24,680 --> 02:14:28,600
camp was, and then we kind of dispersed. Everybody went

2289
02:14:28,640 --> 02:14:30,680
wherever they wanted to go, and we teamed up with

2290
02:14:30,720 --> 02:14:35,359
some other guys and we had a this was real cool.

2291
02:14:35,399 --> 02:14:39,359
We had a radiation meter, and so we left camp.

2292
02:14:39,359 --> 02:14:42,560
We're probably seventy five hundred yards of camp going up

2293
02:14:42,600 --> 02:14:44,960
the side of this mountain here, and all of a sudden,

2294
02:14:44,960 --> 02:14:48,239
the woods just went quiet. I mean just I've never

2295
02:14:48,279 --> 02:14:49,920
heard the woods shut down that quick.

2296
02:14:50,199 --> 02:14:53,039
Speaker 7: Okay, but I'm confused. It was it when you turned

2297
02:14:53,039 --> 02:14:55,159
the meter on. It wasn't quiet.

2298
02:14:56,239 --> 02:14:57,680
Speaker 17: No, we already had the meter on.

2299
02:14:57,920 --> 02:15:05,000
Speaker 1: Okay, to us the radiation meter, somebody brought some and

2300
02:15:03,239 --> 02:15:07,439
so we we put it on as soon as the

2301
02:15:07,439 --> 02:15:11,640
woods one went quiet that uh. And the nurse is

2302
02:15:11,640 --> 02:15:15,119
the one that had the had the meter. Uh. Julie

2303
02:15:15,119 --> 02:15:18,039
from Abilene. She's she's one of my big foot buddies.

2304
02:15:18,479 --> 02:15:23,880
But that radiation meter pegged really and she's like, oh

2305
02:15:23,920 --> 02:15:27,119
my god. And she's looking at you know, because she's

2306
02:15:27,119 --> 02:15:30,000
she's an X ray tech so she knows all about that,

2307
02:15:30,039 --> 02:15:33,119
and she's like, this ain't good. We're we're we need

2308
02:15:33,119 --> 02:15:36,079
to move or something. But that radiation meter went off

2309
02:15:36,079 --> 02:15:38,399
two or three times on the side of that mountain.

2310
02:15:38,319 --> 02:15:40,439
Speaker 7: Like it was buzzing.

2311
02:15:40,600 --> 02:15:41,479
Speaker 17: That was kind of wild.

2312
02:15:41,520 --> 02:15:44,119
Speaker 1: What do you think that was? From David that? I

2313
02:15:44,199 --> 02:15:47,680
have no I've never seen anything do that. Do that.

2314
02:15:47,760 --> 02:15:51,079
We're in the side of a mountain up in the Ozarks.

2315
02:15:51,319 --> 02:15:55,520
You know, what the heck's gonna blow the the uh

2316
02:15:56,039 --> 02:15:58,199
radiation meter I mean pegged.

2317
02:15:59,399 --> 02:16:02,520
Speaker 7: Well. I just so you know those things are they're

2318
02:16:02,640 --> 02:16:06,720
like twenty thirty bucks on Amazon. Who would have thought

2319
02:16:06,720 --> 02:16:09,760
you'd buy a Geiger counter that's really accurate for twenty

2320
02:16:09,840 --> 02:16:14,079
thirty bucks. I bought one. I'm like, what can it

2321
02:16:14,159 --> 02:16:16,359
hurt to bring? It didn't hurt anything.

2322
02:16:16,920 --> 02:16:19,479
Speaker 1: Yeah, we're fixing to get into that ourselves and start

2323
02:16:19,520 --> 02:16:21,039
carrying a little bit extra equipment.

2324
02:16:21,119 --> 02:16:24,119
Speaker 7: Although I did find out adams are slightly radioactive, so

2325
02:16:24,199 --> 02:16:28,560
I try to stay away from them slightly. That's the

2326
02:16:28,600 --> 02:16:29,000
other thing.

2327
02:16:29,039 --> 02:16:29,600
Speaker 1: It's weird.

2328
02:16:29,680 --> 02:16:34,000
Speaker 7: Some people have that make that thing click more than others. Right,

2329
02:16:34,280 --> 02:16:41,319
that's weird. Yeah, whoops, I just thought weird. What other

2330
02:16:41,479 --> 02:16:44,760
tools do you bring with you? Do you bring EMF meter?

2331
02:16:45,079 --> 02:16:45,680
Any chance?

2332
02:16:46,239 --> 02:16:49,879
Speaker 1: We have a couple of times. I didn't have one myself.

2333
02:16:49,920 --> 02:16:52,639
I borred one for my friend. I didn't have much

2334
02:16:52,719 --> 02:16:57,559
luck with it that night. So but I've been talking

2335
02:16:57,600 --> 02:17:00,680
to Kay about getting some more. Yeah, getting a pretty

2336
02:17:00,719 --> 02:17:03,120
good one, and then getting a radiation meter as well.

2337
02:17:03,719 --> 02:17:07,680
Just what happened back there's art. I think that was

2338
02:17:07,760 --> 02:17:10,879
earlier this year when that all happened. I was with

2339
02:17:10,959 --> 02:17:13,959
the Big Foot cartail. They invited me up there to

2340
02:17:14,000 --> 02:17:16,079
go with them there.

2341
02:17:16,399 --> 02:17:20,879
Speaker 7: Do you even try to get photos or you just

2342
02:17:21,000 --> 02:17:23,280
kind of like I don't even care anymore?

2343
02:17:23,680 --> 02:17:25,559
Speaker 17: Which I really don't care anymore.

2344
02:17:25,680 --> 02:17:28,760
Speaker 1: But I do set out sound traps, Okay, I mean

2345
02:17:29,040 --> 02:17:30,120
I have photographs.

2346
02:17:31,280 --> 02:17:33,399
Speaker 7: Yeah, you said you have tormal footage and so on,

2347
02:17:34,120 --> 02:17:36,719
So I mean you just you don't seem like the

2348
02:17:36,799 --> 02:17:39,000
kind of guy that's going to prove anything other than

2349
02:17:39,120 --> 02:17:43,000
you're just curious for your own your own.

2350
02:17:43,360 --> 02:17:45,959
Speaker 17: People gonna blame me if and they don't have to

2351
02:17:46,000 --> 02:17:46,319
BlimE me.

2352
02:17:46,399 --> 02:17:49,639
Speaker 1: I'm okay with that, but I know I only testify

2353
02:17:49,719 --> 02:17:50,719
what I've seen and heard.

2354
02:17:52,760 --> 02:17:56,200
Speaker 7: We even just started to play with the idea because

2355
02:17:56,280 --> 02:18:00,920
it was effective at this you know Ranch in Texas.

2356
02:18:01,079 --> 02:18:07,639
He used mirrors, and we've just finally put a camera

2357
02:18:07,719 --> 02:18:10,559
out in the woods with a mirror, but we're hoping

2358
02:18:10,600 --> 02:18:14,040
to build a bunch of them and just try it.

2359
02:18:14,079 --> 02:18:15,479
I mean, like, what is it going to hurt?

2360
02:18:15,879 --> 02:18:18,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, I've heard about that bouncing the camera off mirrors

2361
02:18:18,799 --> 02:18:19,559
from mirror talk.

2362
02:18:20,120 --> 02:18:22,600
Speaker 7: But what's interesting because we had a guest on and

2363
02:18:22,799 --> 02:18:25,200
I was I did my tech breakdown. I didn't do

2364
02:18:25,239 --> 02:18:28,040
one this week, but I do did tech breakdown Dave

2365
02:18:28,239 --> 02:18:32,120
on using you know, I showed like diagrams and how

2366
02:18:32,120 --> 02:18:36,600
you can do it. And this guy goes, that's weird.

2367
02:18:36,639 --> 02:18:40,600
He said, I had a dream that a bigfoot came

2368
02:18:40,639 --> 02:18:42,600
to me and said, if you want to see us,

2369
02:18:43,000 --> 02:18:47,280
use a mirror. That was his dream. And I thought, well,

2370
02:18:47,319 --> 02:18:50,040
you know, I don't think the guy made up that dream.

2371
02:18:51,159 --> 02:18:52,239
And I thought well, that's.

2372
02:18:52,079 --> 02:18:55,319
Speaker 1: Interesting, that would be really interesting. I have of course,

2373
02:18:55,559 --> 02:18:57,600
I have a business here in Maulvin. I'll be window

2374
02:18:57,639 --> 02:19:00,959
tanning and bonald wraps and stuff like that.

2375
02:19:01,200 --> 02:19:01,479
Speaker 7: Cool.

2376
02:19:01,520 --> 02:19:02,440
Speaker 17: But I have a tent.

2377
02:19:04,600 --> 02:19:06,559
Speaker 1: Seeing how you brought that up, I have I have

2378
02:19:06,639 --> 02:19:08,879
a buyne not a tent, but I do have tent

2379
02:19:09,079 --> 02:19:11,200
this mirriad, but also have a vinyl.

2380
02:19:11,280 --> 02:19:12,719
Speaker 17: I'm just wondering if I could put that on a

2381
02:19:12,840 --> 02:19:14,520
sign blank and.

2382
02:19:14,559 --> 02:19:17,760
Speaker 7: Balance, I would. I guess if you're going to try

2383
02:19:17,840 --> 02:19:21,040
something like that, you're better. It's like a reverse periscope.

2384
02:19:22,000 --> 02:19:24,719
It's got to be out of forty five degrees to

2385
02:19:24,799 --> 02:19:27,520
the camera and you could build it. We're going to

2386
02:19:27,600 --> 02:19:33,159
be three D printing these triangular camera amount for like

2387
02:19:33,239 --> 02:19:38,600
a like a wise camera, small surveillance camera, right, and

2388
02:19:38,600 --> 02:19:41,479
they have memory cards that they can be independent. You

2389
02:19:41,479 --> 02:19:44,840
can just put one out in the woods versus a camera. Yeah,

2390
02:19:44,920 --> 02:19:50,040
but we'll have those. We're going to offer the three

2391
02:19:50,120 --> 02:19:53,799
D printing plans for free for people. You can just

2392
02:19:53,920 --> 02:19:57,079
download it and take it to any three D print

2393
02:19:57,120 --> 02:19:59,360
place if they don't have a have a three D

2394
02:19:59,440 --> 02:20:03,440
printer and get it printed and then just slip in

2395
02:20:03,719 --> 02:20:08,239
a U a mirror that you can buy at the

2396
02:20:08,239 --> 02:20:12,280
hardware store for fifty cents. But I think you yeah,

2397
02:20:12,280 --> 02:20:15,159
I think you would be. Yeah. I've seen the mile

2398
02:20:15,239 --> 02:20:19,479
Are vinyl and it's it's good. But if it's not flat,

2399
02:20:20,120 --> 02:20:23,680
perfectly flat, you get a lot of distortion, and it's

2400
02:20:23,680 --> 02:20:25,520
not the best mirror in the world. Why not just

2401
02:20:25,680 --> 02:20:30,000
use the real mirror? I used to I used to

2402
02:20:30,079 --> 02:20:32,959
run a vinyl shop to at one point. Yeah, wow,

2403
02:20:33,280 --> 02:20:36,760
oh yeah, I know a lot of a vinyl. Yeah,

2404
02:20:36,799 --> 02:20:40,959
you're in a great business because that's that's so popular.

2405
02:20:41,120 --> 02:20:44,040
Now there's no longer sign they're all dead. All the

2406
02:20:44,159 --> 02:20:45,520
sign painters are dead, Dave.

2407
02:20:46,120 --> 02:20:49,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, oh yeah, yeah, the vinyl put out of it.

2408
02:20:49,760 --> 02:20:54,000
I think we still have one here in town. Yeah,

2409
02:20:54,040 --> 02:20:57,680
and he's well up in years. Well, yeah, he's good.

2410
02:20:57,719 --> 02:20:58,719
He's good at what he does.

2411
02:20:59,520 --> 02:21:02,680
Speaker 7: Yeah, it's cool handpainted science. But yeah, vinyl, it's so cool.

2412
02:21:04,120 --> 02:21:08,200
Uh but yeah, i'd I'd love to talk to you

2413
02:21:08,280 --> 02:21:10,600
about some things that you could try. And you're in

2414
02:21:10,600 --> 02:21:15,559
your new area because you're in a position probably better

2415
02:21:15,600 --> 02:21:20,159
than most to do experiments that are harmless to these

2416
02:21:20,200 --> 02:21:24,239
creatures to see what might work right, you know, And

2417
02:21:24,280 --> 02:21:26,319
I will say, you know, if you don't if you

2418
02:21:26,319 --> 02:21:30,559
don't try, you're not gonna get anything. Somebody's gonna do

2419
02:21:30,719 --> 02:21:33,920
the right things and get some new footage that's gonna

2420
02:21:34,040 --> 02:21:37,079
rival anything, and it's gonna you know, I always say,

2421
02:21:37,079 --> 02:21:39,559
people are like, well, it won't matter, people won't believe

2422
02:21:39,600 --> 02:21:43,479
it anyhow. No, I don't believe that real footage looks real.

2423
02:21:43,680 --> 02:21:47,159
If I show you a Natchio video of a tiger

2424
02:21:47,600 --> 02:21:49,879
and you see that, you know, damn well that's real,

2425
02:21:50,040 --> 02:21:55,479
not ai. If you see a real bigfoot, you just know.

2426
02:21:56,000 --> 02:21:59,799
You know, there's so many millions of subtle clues that

2427
02:21:59,840 --> 02:22:04,559
we pick up on. We know animation from real right,

2428
02:22:04,719 --> 02:22:06,559
you know, I don't care how much they spend on it.

2429
02:22:06,639 --> 02:22:10,520
That's still animation, still animation. And yeah it's getting better.

2430
02:22:10,319 --> 02:22:12,799
Speaker 17: But it anytthing still got a long way ago.

2431
02:22:12,920 --> 02:22:13,799
Speaker 7: It's got a waste to go.

2432
02:22:13,959 --> 02:22:16,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think we're still pretty quick.

2433
02:22:17,520 --> 02:22:22,079
Speaker 7: Well, tell us about how do you go about? I

2434
02:22:22,079 --> 02:22:24,760
think it was you too that you ride like a motorcycle,

2435
02:22:24,840 --> 02:22:31,079
don't you, Harley? Harley? And what do you wear? He

2436
02:22:31,239 --> 02:22:33,360
wore a bigfoot suit, as I remember.

2437
02:22:34,319 --> 02:22:38,440
Speaker 17: Uh no, no, not that, No, that's not me.

2438
02:22:40,200 --> 02:22:40,600
Speaker 7: Okay.

2439
02:22:40,840 --> 02:22:44,319
Speaker 1: I've been a part of a ministry for about nine

2440
02:22:44,399 --> 02:22:50,360
years somewhere around and there, Uh that we all rode motorcycles.

2441
02:22:50,360 --> 02:22:54,239
DIAD Ministry help people in recovery, you know, do rescues

2442
02:22:54,280 --> 02:22:54,879
and whatnot.

2443
02:22:56,200 --> 02:22:57,600
Speaker 17: But they did.

2444
02:22:58,040 --> 02:23:04,360
Speaker 1: They're not I don't think they're real comfortable with what

2445
02:23:04,559 --> 02:23:08,040
I was doing in the Bigfoot world. So we just

2446
02:23:08,120 --> 02:23:10,760
kind of had a part in other ways over a

2447
02:23:10,799 --> 02:23:14,879
few issues. And that's okay. God's opened up at another

2448
02:23:14,959 --> 02:23:16,799
door for me to step through because some of these

2449
02:23:17,280 --> 02:23:19,840
places that I'm being able to be able to speak.

2450
02:23:19,959 --> 02:23:25,360
Number one, God's given me a different platform now to

2451
02:23:25,399 --> 02:23:27,600
be able to speak. And every time I speak, I

2452
02:23:27,639 --> 02:23:32,520
always include my faith within that. Within that, Yeah, talking

2453
02:23:32,559 --> 02:23:35,559
about the Bigfoot thing, you know, you can still I

2454
02:23:35,600 --> 02:23:40,200
feel you can still you know, worship God and you

2455
02:23:40,239 --> 02:23:43,159
know believe it's Jesus Christ as your Lord and Savior

2456
02:23:43,159 --> 02:23:47,120
and he's only one to heaven. But also I can

2457
02:23:47,159 --> 02:23:49,959
go in the woods and I can chase Biakfoot. Yeah,

2458
02:23:50,000 --> 02:23:51,319
and there's nothing wrong with that.

2459
02:23:51,440 --> 02:23:54,200
Speaker 7: And you're not one of the people that go all

2460
02:23:54,239 --> 02:23:57,239
Bigfoot's a devil or a fallen angel learning.

2461
02:23:56,959 --> 02:23:57,639
Speaker 1: Of that stuff.

2462
02:24:00,360 --> 02:24:01,760
Speaker 17: Not at all, not at all.

2463
02:24:02,000 --> 02:24:06,879
Speaker 7: And you've got upcoming events at the Bigfoot Enigma Research

2464
02:24:06,920 --> 02:24:13,159
Center in Museum, biker In, Bigfoot Conference, Arkansas, Cryptid Fest,

2465
02:24:13,319 --> 02:24:18,600
Ozerk Mountain, Bigfoot Festival in the Texas Bigfoot Conference.

2466
02:24:19,000 --> 02:24:19,399
Speaker 1: Correct.

2467
02:24:20,040 --> 02:24:22,319
Speaker 17: Uh, Kay knows all that stuff.

2468
02:24:24,159 --> 02:24:25,760
Speaker 7: I'm telling you. That's where you're going.

2469
02:24:26,040 --> 02:24:29,000
Speaker 1: Damn. David just tells me. She fills up my calendar

2470
02:24:29,040 --> 02:24:30,399
and says, hey, you got to be here.

2471
02:24:30,479 --> 02:24:32,200
Speaker 7: Well that's where you're going.

2472
02:24:32,680 --> 02:24:35,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, that's where I'm going. That's where you're going,

2473
02:24:35,879 --> 02:24:39,399
and that's where I'm going. Yeah. Yeah. She's been a

2474
02:24:39,399 --> 02:24:43,280
great help as far as lining out podcast and stuff

2475
02:24:43,319 --> 02:24:46,680
like that. You know, I'm so busy, you know, and

2476
02:24:46,719 --> 02:24:48,680
if I if I'm not busy here at work, I'm

2477
02:24:48,719 --> 02:24:49,680
running to the woods.

2478
02:24:49,760 --> 02:24:53,040
Speaker 7: Well well it's nice about kay. She's really good at communicating.

2479
02:24:53,639 --> 02:24:54,120
Speaker 1: Oh cool.

2480
02:24:54,760 --> 02:24:57,719
Speaker 7: Yeah, she does a really good job. She's right on,

2481
02:24:59,360 --> 02:25:03,879
right on. So that's so highly appreciated. The thinking about

2482
02:25:03,879 --> 02:25:06,520
doing a podcast, it's just communicating with people.

2483
02:25:06,799 --> 02:25:11,079
Speaker 17: Yeah, talk, yeah, simple as that.

2484
02:25:11,559 --> 02:25:12,399
Speaker 1: Share a few.

2485
02:25:14,280 --> 02:25:16,799
Speaker 7: Kay. I was just like bam, she gets back to you.

2486
02:25:17,559 --> 02:25:20,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, she does agree, she got on the spot. She's

2487
02:25:20,360 --> 02:25:23,840
helped me. She's helped grow this aka Sasquatch thing. I

2488
02:25:23,840 --> 02:25:26,280
didn't I didn't think i'd be traveling around speaking and

2489
02:25:26,319 --> 02:25:29,520
stuff like that. But she saw it, you know, and

2490
02:25:29,559 --> 02:25:32,760
she's a fellow believer as well, you know, so she's

2491
02:25:32,799 --> 02:25:35,760
been a very She does all my videos and all

2492
02:25:35,760 --> 02:25:36,559
that kind of stuff.

2493
02:25:36,600 --> 02:25:38,360
Speaker 17: So she's she's a great asset.

2494
02:25:39,319 --> 02:25:40,520
Speaker 1: She keeps us all in line.

2495
02:25:43,200 --> 02:25:46,440
Speaker 7: Okay, apparently there is a guy in a bigfoot Harley Ryder.

2496
02:25:46,600 --> 02:25:49,879
I was thinking about it from Pennsylvania.

2497
02:25:49,239 --> 02:25:52,239
Speaker 9: Yeah, a few weeks ago.

2498
02:25:53,120 --> 02:25:55,719
Speaker 17: Yeah, I've seen it. I've seen it somewhere online.

2499
02:25:55,799 --> 02:25:58,879
Speaker 7: We had them, we had them hunt.

2500
02:25:59,120 --> 02:26:03,920
Speaker 9: Oh my god, I'm losing it, David, I'm losing my mind.

2501
02:26:04,000 --> 02:26:04,799
Speaker 1: Oh my god.

2502
02:26:04,879 --> 02:26:07,079
Speaker 17: I feel like that has a lot to do with age.

2503
02:26:07,360 --> 02:26:12,399
Speaker 7: You think, so it has to do with age, But

2504
02:26:12,719 --> 02:26:17,319
the modern world is moving so quick, I got that's

2505
02:26:17,360 --> 02:26:19,600
no liar right there. And it allows you to meet

2506
02:26:19,719 --> 02:26:22,879
so many more people, like more people than we're even

2507
02:26:22,959 --> 02:26:26,959
capable of remembering. I meet new people every week and

2508
02:26:27,000 --> 02:26:30,079
I love it. But sometimes it can be a little

2509
02:26:30,120 --> 02:26:31,159
hard to keep people.

2510
02:26:31,639 --> 02:26:33,120
Speaker 17: Yeah, that's why I run to the woods.

2511
02:26:33,479 --> 02:26:36,159
Speaker 7: Yeah, exactly, I need some woods time.

2512
02:26:36,000 --> 02:26:39,000
Speaker 17: On I can get my head clear, you know, talk

2513
02:26:39,079 --> 02:26:39,719
to my god.

2514
02:26:39,879 --> 02:26:42,879
Speaker 7: And Okay, why do you think the woods are so

2515
02:26:43,120 --> 02:26:47,319
healing to people. What's your thoughts on that, because they are.

2516
02:26:47,879 --> 02:26:50,920
Speaker 1: All I can do is speak in my personal experience.

2517
02:26:51,040 --> 02:26:53,360
You know, you don't You don't have a I don't

2518
02:26:53,440 --> 02:26:55,239
have the hustle and bustle. I don't have to answer

2519
02:26:55,239 --> 02:26:57,159
the phone. I don't have to talk to a customer.

2520
02:26:58,280 --> 02:27:01,600
I don't have to and don't use this and I'm

2521
02:27:01,639 --> 02:27:03,440
not saying this in a bad terms. I don't have

2522
02:27:03,479 --> 02:27:05,920
to witness to anybody, you know. So because you know,

2523
02:27:05,959 --> 02:27:09,120
we see Jesus in the scriptures that would go to

2524
02:27:09,200 --> 02:27:15,040
a solitary place and pray, and most Christians ain't figured

2525
02:27:15,079 --> 02:27:19,760
that out yet. But just to just to there's nothing

2526
02:27:19,879 --> 02:27:23,200
more beautiful to me than to just set out in

2527
02:27:23,280 --> 02:27:27,120
the woods, prop up against the tree and just kind

2528
02:27:27,159 --> 02:27:30,200
of just close your mind, empty your mind and everything.

2529
02:27:30,719 --> 02:27:33,959
Listen to the wind blowing, listen to the birch, you know,

2530
02:27:34,079 --> 02:27:38,319
the crickets and whatnot. Just shut everything down, you know,

2531
02:27:38,879 --> 02:27:43,399
and just listen, you know, and God will speak to

2532
02:27:43,399 --> 02:27:44,680
you in that little small voice.

2533
02:27:45,079 --> 02:27:48,440
Speaker 7: Why do you think the woods are magical? I mean,

2534
02:27:48,520 --> 02:27:52,559
there's so much energy in the woods and they're just

2535
02:27:52,680 --> 02:27:55,719
now talking about how even five minutes in the woods

2536
02:27:55,760 --> 02:27:59,360
affects your health for like three to four days, really

2537
02:28:00,079 --> 02:28:02,319
minutes in the four you taught me tonight.

2538
02:28:03,440 --> 02:28:06,399
Speaker 9: Yeah, I was two weeks ago. I was up north

2539
02:28:06,399 --> 02:28:08,520
for a week, and man.

2540
02:28:10,200 --> 02:28:10,840
Speaker 1: It's healing.

2541
02:28:12,799 --> 02:28:15,239
Speaker 7: Just there's a lot more power in the woods that

2542
02:28:15,319 --> 02:28:19,360
we don't even know or understand yet. We don't know,

2543
02:28:19,479 --> 02:28:21,559
a lot more energy that we need.

2544
02:28:22,200 --> 02:28:26,360
Speaker 1: There is have energy. We all we all have energy.

2545
02:28:26,399 --> 02:28:29,000
And that's another thing that I think. You know, maybe

2546
02:28:29,040 --> 02:28:34,040
the bigfoots tag people, you know, because you know, even

2547
02:28:34,159 --> 02:28:38,399
humans give off energy, even humans have auras and whatnot.

2548
02:28:38,479 --> 02:28:42,159
Are they picking up on that particular energy that one

2549
02:28:42,280 --> 02:28:47,120
human is putting out or or it could be that simple,

2550
02:28:47,200 --> 02:28:47,760
couldn't it.

2551
02:28:47,760 --> 02:28:49,920
Speaker 7: It could be that simple. Have you ever been I'm

2552
02:28:49,920 --> 02:28:52,200
sure we've all done it. You're walking in the hardware

2553
02:28:52,280 --> 02:28:55,440
store whatever, mindy, you're you're not thinking about anybody, and

2554
02:28:55,520 --> 02:28:57,719
a guy walk by and you go, oh, I got

2555
02:28:57,760 --> 02:29:01,760
bad vibes from that person, like they had like they

2556
02:29:01,799 --> 02:29:05,399
did something really bad or something. You just know it

2557
02:29:06,239 --> 02:29:10,120
not even based on their looks, just on some area

2558
02:29:10,280 --> 02:29:13,559
around them. Yeah, And I wonder if it's kind of

2559
02:29:13,719 --> 02:29:19,680
like that, only maybe they're more sensitive to it, you know.

2560
02:29:19,760 --> 02:29:22,399
Speaker 1: That's one of the gifts of the spirits is you know,

2561
02:29:22,559 --> 02:29:23,360
having that.

2562
02:29:24,959 --> 02:29:27,399
Speaker 17: Being able to dissern spirits.

2563
02:29:27,879 --> 02:29:30,559
Speaker 1: You know, there's a lot of people walking around here

2564
02:29:30,959 --> 02:29:35,639
that have had demon spirits to kind of get in

2565
02:29:35,680 --> 02:29:38,719
the supernatural a little bit that have They've opened the

2566
02:29:38,760 --> 02:29:42,840
door for you know, demonic entities to either oppress them

2567
02:29:43,159 --> 02:29:47,079
or to even control them. You know, I see read

2568
02:29:47,200 --> 02:29:49,719
some of these things, whacked out things.

2569
02:29:49,440 --> 02:29:54,360
Speaker 17: On you know, TV and whatnot. You know, read a

2570
02:29:54,399 --> 02:29:55,639
story today about.

2571
02:29:55,360 --> 02:29:58,559
Speaker 1: A twenty one year old man kidnapped to a ten

2572
02:29:58,639 --> 02:30:02,200
year old girl, you know, and did what he did,

2573
02:30:02,319 --> 02:30:05,799
then cut her up and stuffed stuffed her in the

2574
02:30:07,559 --> 02:30:11,079
in a cubby way in his house, you know, and

2575
02:30:11,120 --> 02:30:15,879
when the smell, you know, they finally caught up with him.

2576
02:30:15,920 --> 02:30:17,680
Speaker 17: And arrested him. He got arrested for it.

2577
02:30:18,040 --> 02:30:22,079
Speaker 1: But that's nothing but demonic, right there, Nothing but demonic.

2578
02:30:22,239 --> 02:30:26,719
You know, people, there is a good and evil and

2579
02:30:26,879 --> 02:30:32,600
both have powers. And you know it's like that lady

2580
02:30:32,600 --> 02:30:34,440
I saw go up the wall. You know, that was

2581
02:30:34,479 --> 02:30:37,719
pure evil. I wasn't God doing that, but I had

2582
02:30:37,799 --> 02:30:42,520
enough sense about me to exit. Stays left. But you can, yeah,

2583
02:30:42,600 --> 02:30:44,959
you can pick up people that are you know, have

2584
02:30:45,079 --> 02:30:49,040
a real negative vibe about them, so to speak.

2585
02:30:52,200 --> 02:30:52,479
Speaker 3: Do you.

2586
02:30:53,959 --> 02:31:01,559
Speaker 7: Do you feel that the history though will be just

2587
02:31:01,760 --> 02:31:05,000
like solved ever or do you not want it to

2588
02:31:05,000 --> 02:31:09,360
be solved or do you think the mystery is gonna stay.

2589
02:31:09,719 --> 02:31:12,959
It's like, I know, it's healthy for people to be

2590
02:31:13,079 --> 02:31:15,840
curious about things we don't understand that I do know.

2591
02:31:15,920 --> 02:31:18,719
But are you one of the people that, like, if

2592
02:31:18,760 --> 02:31:22,200
it ever completely is solved, will ruin your day? Or

2593
02:31:22,200 --> 02:31:24,239
will you feel like that's a great thing?

2594
02:31:25,239 --> 02:31:27,000
Speaker 1: Well? I can see it in.

2595
02:31:26,920 --> 02:31:29,600
Speaker 17: A positive light and a negative light both.

2596
02:31:29,840 --> 02:31:33,559
Speaker 1: It's going to wreck the timber industry per se because

2597
02:31:33,559 --> 02:31:35,319
a lot of people are going to cry out for

2598
02:31:35,639 --> 02:31:40,760
you know, protection of these species, and uh, that's gonna

2599
02:31:41,920 --> 02:31:44,280
that's going to rock USA for sure.

2600
02:31:45,239 --> 02:31:47,280
Speaker 17: But if it comes out, I'm cool with that.

2601
02:31:47,440 --> 02:31:52,040
Speaker 1: If it doesn't, you know, I'm good with that as well.

2602
02:31:52,479 --> 02:31:55,639
Speaker 7: Now it's a good time if anybody has any questions

2603
02:31:55,680 --> 02:31:57,760
before we wrap up here and go ahead.

2604
02:31:57,559 --> 02:31:58,719
Speaker 1: And put them in caps.

2605
02:31:59,200 --> 02:32:02,760
Speaker 7: I know somebody asked you if you could describe a

2606
02:32:02,840 --> 02:32:05,479
little more on their face, you know, because you've got

2607
02:32:05,479 --> 02:32:07,799
some good looks at these things. Do they all look

2608
02:32:07,840 --> 02:32:08,760
different like people?

2609
02:32:09,239 --> 02:32:10,840
Speaker 17: They're kind of like people, you know.

2610
02:32:11,280 --> 02:32:16,719
Speaker 1: I believe there's like different Uh how would I put

2611
02:32:16,760 --> 02:32:23,799
in different races so to speak of these of these critters. Uh.

2612
02:32:24,000 --> 02:32:27,840
You know, some some I've seen with the protruding mouth,

2613
02:32:28,879 --> 02:32:31,280
you know, with the flat nose a little bit.

2614
02:32:31,600 --> 02:32:34,559
Speaker 17: I wouldn't say ape, but I wouldn't say.

2615
02:32:35,799 --> 02:32:35,959
Speaker 7: Uh.

2616
02:32:37,719 --> 02:32:42,079
Speaker 1: Some of their mannerisms as well, are just like humans.

2617
02:32:42,680 --> 02:32:47,639
I mean facial features. You know, I've had them smile

2618
02:32:47,639 --> 02:32:50,840
at me. Now, I don't know if that's a threat. Yeah, yeah,

2619
02:32:50,879 --> 02:32:54,079
it's not. But you know that first one, you know,

2620
02:32:54,159 --> 02:32:57,200
clicking his teeth at me. You know, that was that

2621
02:32:57,319 --> 02:32:59,760
was scary to me, you know, and I've never forgot

2622
02:32:59,799 --> 02:33:02,319
that sound. Ah, But.

2623
02:33:04,159 --> 02:33:05,280
Speaker 17: I know there's good and bad.

2624
02:33:06,319 --> 02:33:06,440
Speaker 6: Uh.

2625
02:33:06,959 --> 02:33:10,280
Speaker 1: Some have long hair, some of them have age on them.

2626
02:33:10,360 --> 02:33:17,079
Some some I've seen black eyes, you know, with no

2627
02:33:17,479 --> 02:33:21,319
white around the eyes. But then again I've seen some

2628
02:33:21,479 --> 02:33:24,440
with a little bit of white in their eyes. You know,

2629
02:33:24,479 --> 02:33:27,120
when they stare at you, it's like a cold stare.

2630
02:33:28,559 --> 02:33:31,840
You know, it's it gives you the eb gbis, so

2631
02:33:31,879 --> 02:33:32,319
to speak.

2632
02:33:34,159 --> 02:33:38,079
Speaker 17: But you know, they're just like people.

2633
02:33:38,280 --> 02:33:41,920
Speaker 1: We all three are humans and we don't look nothing alike,

2634
02:33:43,079 --> 02:33:46,600
but you know we do have characteristics that are alike.

2635
02:33:46,799 --> 02:33:49,959
Speaker 7: What about the eyes, to their eyes, the actual eye.

2636
02:33:50,120 --> 02:33:56,440
Is it all dark? Is it got whites? Is it?

2637
02:33:56,600 --> 02:33:57,799
Speaker 17: Well, some of them have.

2638
02:33:57,920 --> 02:34:00,360
Speaker 1: I've seen some with white, but I've seen some that

2639
02:34:00,559 --> 02:34:02,000
just look totally black.

2640
02:34:03,120 --> 02:34:05,799
Speaker 17: I've only seen one blue eyed one, just.

2641
02:34:05,799 --> 02:34:09,799
Speaker 1: One an encounter that I had to here in Arkansas

2642
02:34:10,600 --> 02:34:15,040
that was pretty pretty tight. But you know, most of

2643
02:34:15,079 --> 02:34:19,879
them have darkish eyes like brown. You know, I haven't

2644
02:34:19,879 --> 02:34:21,360
gone up and say, hey, let me look in your

2645
02:34:21,360 --> 02:34:22,559
eyes exactly.

2646
02:34:22,559 --> 02:34:25,200
Speaker 7: You know, I ever heard one laugh.

2647
02:34:28,399 --> 02:34:37,000
Speaker 17: You know, I heard it sounded like a bunch of women.

2648
02:34:39,319 --> 02:34:45,440
Speaker 1: In the woods. But it wasn't English. That sounded like

2649
02:34:45,479 --> 02:34:50,600
a bunch of women. And you could hear laughter within that.

2650
02:34:50,920 --> 02:34:53,000
It sounds like they were down there being busy. So

2651
02:34:53,079 --> 02:34:56,559
I guess, I guess the females, you know, talk about

2652
02:34:56,600 --> 02:34:59,840
like the females that we have around here, I mean

2653
02:35:00,079 --> 02:35:04,520
human species. But I mean that's the only time I

2654
02:35:04,520 --> 02:35:08,760
could say possibly I heard them laugh, you know, useless

2655
02:35:09,120 --> 02:35:10,680
talking back and forth to each other.

2656
02:35:12,000 --> 02:35:16,079
Speaker 7: Somebody asked if you've ever smelled them, either that order

2657
02:35:16,159 --> 02:35:20,159
they put out that putrid, or ever just smelt their

2658
02:35:20,280 --> 02:35:21,399
natural scent.

2659
02:35:22,520 --> 02:35:26,000
Speaker 1: Most of the ones, not all of them, have smells. Now,

2660
02:35:26,799 --> 02:35:29,600
I was talking to a researcher the other day, and

2661
02:35:30,200 --> 02:35:33,600
especially was talking about skunk eate. You know, do they

2662
02:35:33,799 --> 02:35:36,840
always smell that all the time or is that something

2663
02:35:36,879 --> 02:35:39,680
in their system like a skunk that would put off

2664
02:35:41,079 --> 02:35:45,159
in times, because like a skunk when it sprays, that's

2665
02:35:45,159 --> 02:35:51,959
a defense mechanism within their body to ward off people.

2666
02:35:52,360 --> 02:35:55,639
So we had a really interesting discussion of that. Some

2667
02:35:55,680 --> 02:35:58,159
of them, the main ones I've smelled and smelled like

2668
02:35:59,520 --> 02:36:05,959
real husky, real heavy urine top smell. It's kind of

2669
02:36:06,000 --> 02:36:07,360
like have you ever smelled an elk?

2670
02:36:07,360 --> 02:36:11,200
Speaker 17: Have you ever smelled a bull elk in the rut?

2671
02:36:11,719 --> 02:36:16,399
Speaker 1: You'll never forget the bigfoot smell because it's it's it's

2672
02:36:16,440 --> 02:36:21,440
sometimes it's you know, uh, sometimes it's so strong that

2673
02:36:21,600 --> 02:36:24,319
it'll make you like, you know, your gag reflex and

2674
02:36:24,399 --> 02:36:27,079
be like, oh, I mean some of them are pretty rank,

2675
02:36:27,200 --> 02:36:29,920
but not all of them, not all of them. It's

2676
02:36:30,000 --> 02:36:32,159
like the ones that I seen down in New Mexico.

2677
02:36:32,680 --> 02:36:34,639
You know, I never smelled that rask. Of course he

2678
02:36:34,680 --> 02:36:36,760
didn't stay. I don't know how long he was standing

2679
02:36:36,799 --> 02:36:39,639
there because I couldn't see him. He must have been

2680
02:36:39,639 --> 02:36:42,440
behind a tree. But I never smelled that one. Now

2681
02:36:42,520 --> 02:36:46,040
the ones that I've seen around locally. Some of them

2682
02:36:46,120 --> 02:36:48,280
have that smell. Some of them don't have that smell.

2683
02:36:49,079 --> 02:36:52,000
Some of them it's like, oh god, you know, sometimes

2684
02:36:52,000 --> 02:36:53,360
you smell him before you see him.

2685
02:36:53,600 --> 02:36:57,479
Speaker 7: Have you smelled that horrible stink? Oh yeah, almost like

2686
02:36:57,600 --> 02:36:59,040
rotten flesh or whatever.

2687
02:36:59,280 --> 02:37:00,000
Speaker 17: Yeah.

2688
02:37:00,040 --> 02:37:06,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, with a hint of wet dog and urine.

2689
02:37:08,799 --> 02:37:12,120
Speaker 7: And he has asked, could you have ever mistaken like

2690
02:37:12,239 --> 02:37:16,479
teeth chatter for rock clacking or have you heard rock

2691
02:37:16,639 --> 02:37:20,000
I mean, when you saw when the teeth were cheap

2692
02:37:20,399 --> 02:37:22,760
clacking you, so you witnessed it with your.

2693
02:37:22,600 --> 02:37:26,319
Speaker 1: Eyes to that one's teeth chattering like that. Now, I've

2694
02:37:26,319 --> 02:37:31,559
heard rock clacks in the woods, but the only chatters

2695
02:37:31,600 --> 02:37:34,399
that I've seen was that first one and a couple

2696
02:37:34,399 --> 02:37:37,239
of a couple more after that that were clicking their

2697
02:37:37,239 --> 02:37:41,280
teeth real fast, and I witnessed that. I Uh, but

2698
02:37:41,360 --> 02:37:44,280
I have experienced the rock clacking as well. I've used

2699
02:37:44,280 --> 02:37:46,879
that a few times. You know, if they bang on,

2700
02:37:46,959 --> 02:37:48,680
if they hit a tree, I'll hit a tree.

2701
02:37:49,319 --> 02:37:49,680
Speaker 7: Uh.

2702
02:37:49,719 --> 02:37:52,559
Speaker 1: If they clack rocks, I'll clack rocks, you know, to

2703
02:37:52,600 --> 02:37:55,840
communicate with them, just see what's going on. Uh.

2704
02:37:56,239 --> 02:37:57,479
Speaker 17: These things don't scare me.

2705
02:37:58,280 --> 02:38:01,479
Speaker 1: Uh, I'm sure that there's be some situations that I'll

2706
02:38:01,559 --> 02:38:04,280
be afraid, but I'm kind of an adrenaline junkie.

2707
02:38:04,280 --> 02:38:06,040
Speaker 17: I kind of pushed the envelope a little bit.

2708
02:38:09,200 --> 02:38:14,440
Speaker 7: Remember, this is the guy that hunts hogs with knives. Nice.

2709
02:38:16,639 --> 02:38:20,840
I thought I was really I thought I was really tough.

2710
02:38:23,639 --> 02:38:26,360
Speaker 1: I was a kid, I was probably eighteen years old,

2711
02:38:27,239 --> 02:38:30,799
and I'd set up some corn in one area, climbed

2712
02:38:30,799 --> 02:38:34,399
a tree, just proved to my dad that I could

2713
02:38:34,719 --> 02:38:36,879
And there was some grit come in. I jumped on

2714
02:38:36,879 --> 02:38:39,360
one of a dough on her back, ripped her throat,

2715
02:38:40,040 --> 02:38:44,120
and then gutted her out and took her home. Just

2716
02:38:44,280 --> 02:38:45,319
proved that I could do it.

2717
02:38:46,920 --> 02:38:50,879
Speaker 7: What about have you seen tree structures or any kind

2718
02:38:50,920 --> 02:38:52,000
of formations?

2719
02:38:52,280 --> 02:38:52,440
Speaker 1: Oh?

2720
02:38:52,520 --> 02:38:54,360
Speaker 17: Yeah, yeah, small ones, big ones.

2721
02:38:54,840 --> 02:38:57,280
Speaker 1: I found one in my new research area that's really

2722
02:38:57,440 --> 02:38:58,319
really interesting.

2723
02:38:58,600 --> 02:39:00,879
Speaker 17: I can send you to have Casey your video.

2724
02:39:00,719 --> 02:39:04,159
Speaker 1: On it if you'd like, because we've just crafted video

2725
02:39:04,280 --> 02:39:10,680
that it's starting to disintegrate. When I first seen it,

2726
02:39:10,680 --> 02:39:13,159
it was pretty sharp, pretty sharp, and it was kind

2727
02:39:13,159 --> 02:39:17,239
of like the TP type. Okay, And I had one

2728
02:39:17,280 --> 02:39:20,040
area down there and that I hunt There was a

2729
02:39:20,079 --> 02:39:22,719
lot of arcs and a lot of tree breaks in

2730
02:39:22,760 --> 02:39:25,760
this one area, and I got this real bad, uneasy

2731
02:39:25,799 --> 02:39:28,440
feeling in there and I stopped.

2732
02:39:28,440 --> 02:39:30,120
Speaker 17: I was on my full wed and I stopped started

2733
02:39:30,120 --> 02:39:30,559
deserving it.

2734
02:39:30,639 --> 02:39:35,360
Speaker 1: I pulled out my my iPhone, started video and stuff

2735
02:39:35,639 --> 02:39:37,719
looked out at my I pulled out my compass. My

2736
02:39:37,799 --> 02:39:40,840
compass was going all kind of crazy, so I don't

2737
02:39:40,879 --> 02:39:43,120
know if it was a magnetic field in that place

2738
02:39:43,799 --> 02:39:46,319
or not. In the second time I went back in

2739
02:39:46,399 --> 02:39:49,479
there to find that place, I know about the area

2740
02:39:49,520 --> 02:39:52,200
it is. But the second time I went down in there,

2741
02:39:52,239 --> 02:39:54,000
I was on my full wheeler. I was by myself,

2742
02:39:54,440 --> 02:39:57,879
and all of a sudden, this this fill of dread

2743
02:39:58,639 --> 02:40:02,520
came over me and it was just like you know,

2744
02:40:02,559 --> 02:40:05,159
I ended up stopping my four wheeler and cutting it

2745
02:40:05,200 --> 02:40:08,239
off and setting there. I knew, I knew they were there.

2746
02:40:09,479 --> 02:40:11,200
I didn't know where that was at, so.

2747
02:40:11,520 --> 02:40:15,639
Speaker 18: Kind of like being zapped, I guess, yeah, I kind

2748
02:40:15,680 --> 02:40:18,280
of like being zapped, Yeah, where you just get like

2749
02:40:19,079 --> 02:40:22,680
I knew I knew this something, And finally I just said, okay, okay,

2750
02:40:23,120 --> 02:40:24,600
you know, I was going back there to find that

2751
02:40:24,600 --> 02:40:27,760
place to get a video and again and pull out

2752
02:40:27,799 --> 02:40:30,200
another compass and see if it would do the same thing.

2753
02:40:30,799 --> 02:40:34,719
Speaker 1: So I ended up leaving. I said, okay, okay.

2754
02:40:34,440 --> 02:40:34,959
Speaker 17: I'm leaving.

2755
02:40:35,040 --> 02:40:38,040
Speaker 1: I'm leaving. So I just started my four wheel, turned around,

2756
02:40:38,120 --> 02:40:42,120
hit it right back out. You know, when these things

2757
02:40:42,120 --> 02:40:45,360
get around, if you're around them a long time or

2758
02:40:45,680 --> 02:40:49,280
like have a lot of encounters, your body will start

2759
02:40:49,319 --> 02:40:52,719
telling you that these things are around. When when they

2760
02:40:52,760 --> 02:40:57,360
get around, I sense it, you know, either you know,

2761
02:40:57,719 --> 02:41:01,319
the the hair on my arms will come up, or

2762
02:41:01,360 --> 02:41:03,360
on the back of my neck will come up, or

2763
02:41:03,959 --> 02:41:06,159
you know, I just know in my head.

2764
02:41:05,879 --> 02:41:08,399
Speaker 7: Well you know what what happens to me? And this

2765
02:41:08,440 --> 02:41:11,159
has happened so many times, and it's I've been right

2766
02:41:11,239 --> 02:41:14,879
every time. My heart will start beating really quick, like

2767
02:41:15,000 --> 02:41:16,920
it feels like I'm about to have a heart attack,

2768
02:41:17,319 --> 02:41:21,120
and then there'll be a big bang or a bucket kicker,

2769
02:41:21,360 --> 02:41:25,879
you know, something in camp and it's like, damn, it's

2770
02:41:25,920 --> 02:41:29,399
like I could I could sense them before they came.

2771
02:41:30,159 --> 02:41:33,159
And it's usually for me, it's my heart starts beating quick,

2772
02:41:33,959 --> 02:41:35,200
which never happens.

2773
02:41:35,399 --> 02:41:37,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, and a normal starts part of my life SARTs

2774
02:41:37,719 --> 02:41:38,879
pumping real yeah.

2775
02:41:38,959 --> 02:41:41,879
Speaker 7: Yeah, it's like your chest is going to come out

2776
02:41:41,879 --> 02:41:43,600
of your your heart's going to come out of.

2777
02:41:43,559 --> 02:41:48,520
Speaker 17: Your chest before I see them. Yeah, if they're close.

2778
02:41:49,559 --> 02:41:52,959
And now he brought past one and didn't even know it.

2779
02:41:53,120 --> 02:41:54,680
He was only thirty yards from me.

2780
02:41:55,440 --> 02:41:57,520
Speaker 1: You know, I kind of glanced over at it.

2781
02:41:57,559 --> 02:41:58,600
Speaker 17: I just thought it was rock.

2782
02:41:59,399 --> 02:42:03,719
Speaker 7: Oh, here's a good question somebody's asking about, like mind

2783
02:42:03,840 --> 02:42:08,440
speak or telepathy. Have you ever had any telepathic stuff?

2784
02:42:10,079 --> 02:42:13,200
Speaker 1: You know, I think jury's still out on that one. There. Uh,

2785
02:42:13,879 --> 02:42:18,559
I haven't ever heard them talk. But yet. On the

2786
02:42:18,639 --> 02:42:22,920
other hand, you know, I know in my mind that

2787
02:42:22,959 --> 02:42:27,360
one is close, But y'all don't hear nothing. Hey, you

2788
02:42:27,399 --> 02:42:29,360
know how you doing? You know you need to back

2789
02:42:29,399 --> 02:42:32,680
out of here, you know, or whatever. But I know

2790
02:42:32,799 --> 02:42:35,280
in my mind that they're there. And then when my

2791
02:42:35,399 --> 02:42:38,200
knowing my mind that they're there, then my body starts

2792
02:42:38,280 --> 02:42:44,079
reacting to that. So I don't you know, I've heard

2793
02:42:44,440 --> 02:42:48,159
talk to people that's had mine speak, And I don't

2794
02:42:48,200 --> 02:42:52,920
know if y'all ever y'all know Arla Williams up in Oklahoma.

2795
02:42:53,479 --> 02:42:56,799
Speaker 17: No, I don't, y'all need to get her on here.

2796
02:42:58,280 --> 02:43:00,920
She mind speak to them all the time.

2797
02:43:01,159 --> 02:43:05,760
Speaker 1: Really, she's got some fascinating stories. I'll have her numbers.

2798
02:43:05,920 --> 02:43:08,479
Speaker 7: Well, I'm planning I still haven't done it, but I

2799
02:43:08,479 --> 02:43:11,399
want to organize a bunch of people that have had

2800
02:43:11,440 --> 02:43:14,440
that experience to get them all together and see we

2801
02:43:14,479 --> 02:43:16,760
can get like seven eight people on all at the

2802
02:43:16,799 --> 02:43:19,040
same time that have had that kind of experience and

2803
02:43:19,159 --> 02:43:23,200
have yeah and have them share it. I better do

2804
02:43:23,239 --> 02:43:24,920
it before somebody does it before me.

2805
02:43:25,719 --> 02:43:27,959
Speaker 1: Yeah, because it's out there. Now, it's out there. Now,

2806
02:43:28,680 --> 02:43:29,239
get on it.

2807
02:43:29,719 --> 02:43:34,000
Speaker 7: Well, can we could we ask Kate to book you again?

2808
02:43:35,000 --> 02:43:37,200
I mean, I'll and have you on again. David'd love

2809
02:43:37,239 --> 02:43:39,360
to because I know we you know, we can't cover

2810
02:43:39,440 --> 02:43:42,959
everything tonight. I know you've even had a dog man

2811
02:43:43,000 --> 02:43:48,120
experience and yeah, oh yeah, we gotta save that.

2812
02:43:48,600 --> 02:43:52,000
Speaker 1: We gotta save that real quick.

2813
02:43:53,000 --> 02:43:59,399
Speaker 7: Yeah, I can't even imagine. I've had, you know, I've

2814
02:43:59,399 --> 02:44:03,920
had in cow Owners and now finally had you know,

2815
02:44:04,159 --> 02:44:10,520
two really good visual encounters, and yeah, they're's they're very,

2816
02:44:10,719 --> 02:44:16,799
very real. Unfortunately, I've never seen the face. I've always

2817
02:44:16,799 --> 02:44:21,280
had their back to me or walking away from me,

2818
02:44:21,399 --> 02:44:24,239
and it's like, dang it, it's almost seems like a

2819
02:44:24,319 --> 02:44:28,000
non a non experience when you see that when you

2820
02:44:28,000 --> 02:44:33,360
don't get to see their face, because that's kind of everything. Okay, Anyhow,

2821
02:44:33,399 --> 02:44:37,000
we got to wind up. We're gonna stand by. We're

2822
02:44:37,000 --> 02:44:39,600
just going to do our wisdom of the week, which

2823
02:44:39,639 --> 02:44:43,799
I know you're gonna like, David, and we'll be right back.

2824
02:44:43,879 --> 02:44:46,000
Speaker 1: Just stand We'll be right back.

2825
02:44:46,680 --> 02:44:49,760
Speaker 2: It's now time for untold Radio and Wisdom of the Week.

2826
02:44:50,680 --> 02:44:53,920
Freedom is rarely lost all at once. More often it

2827
02:44:53,959 --> 02:44:58,000
disappears a little at a time while good people are distracted, divided,

2828
02:44:58,079 --> 02:45:02,239
or silent. So this week we Freedom survives only when

2829
02:45:02,360 --> 02:45:07,879
ordinary people practice courage, responsibility, and respect, and are willing

2830
02:45:07,920 --> 02:45:10,760
to defend the rights of others as fiercely as their own.

2831
02:45:11,159 --> 02:45:11,600
Speaker 9: Good Night.

2832
02:45:11,680 --> 02:45:14,120
Speaker 2: We hope to see you all next week. If you

2833
02:45:14,280 --> 02:45:17,159
like the show tonight, please consider giving us a thumbs up,

2834
02:45:17,639 --> 02:45:20,559
leaving a nice comment, and most of all, subscribing and

2835
02:45:20,639 --> 02:45:23,159
hitting the bell so you will be notified when a

2836
02:45:23,200 --> 02:45:27,559
new episode is dropping. Also, please share this episode. Now

2837
02:45:27,559 --> 02:45:29,239
back to Doug and Jeff.

2838
02:45:28,920 --> 02:45:29,600
Speaker 1: For our rap.

2839
02:45:32,799 --> 02:45:32,840
Speaker 7: No.

2840
02:45:33,000 --> 02:45:34,520
Speaker 9: I love that one, God Bless the man.

2841
02:45:34,600 --> 02:45:36,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, don't get me started on that one.

2842
02:45:36,600 --> 02:45:38,920
Speaker 7: Yeah. No, oh, And we can talk about it next

2843
02:45:39,000 --> 02:45:45,479
time you come on. I think that we had a

2844
02:45:45,520 --> 02:45:47,280
great show. I think people loved it.

2845
02:45:48,680 --> 02:45:50,959
Speaker 17: You, David Man, I love being on here.

2846
02:45:51,239 --> 02:45:53,760
Speaker 1: Oh my experiences. Now, I wouldn't do it for a

2847
02:45:53,799 --> 02:45:56,840
long time, you know, because I knew the ridicule was going. Yeah,

2848
02:45:57,319 --> 02:46:00,280
it seems the most problems that I've had it not

2849
02:46:00,360 --> 02:46:03,479
been ordinary people, you know, It's been the It's been

2850
02:46:03,520 --> 02:46:07,239
the church. Yeah, most problems out of but in some

2851
02:46:07,280 --> 02:46:10,079
of the places that I'm being able to go share it,

2852
02:46:10,239 --> 02:46:14,040
God's give me a platform. But they've asked me to

2853
02:46:14,079 --> 02:46:16,120
stay over the next day and do a service the

2854
02:46:16,159 --> 02:46:19,719
next day. They preach the next day. So that's how

2855
02:46:19,719 --> 02:46:23,799
I got dubbed the Bigfoot preacher. So it gives me

2856
02:46:23,879 --> 02:46:27,239
not only a time to share my encounters and you know,

2857
02:46:27,479 --> 02:46:30,120
get ideals from other people and stuff, because I'm always

2858
02:46:30,200 --> 02:46:32,239
up for you know, tell me, tell me how you

2859
02:46:32,239 --> 02:46:32,520
did it.

2860
02:46:32,559 --> 02:46:35,959
Speaker 17: What was your encounter? You know, what's the tools you're using?

2861
02:46:36,079 --> 02:46:38,719
Speaker 1: How you doing this? You know? I want to continuously

2862
02:46:38,799 --> 02:46:39,920
learn because I ain't not there.

2863
02:46:41,040 --> 02:46:43,840
Speaker 7: But and Dave, would you be willing to say a

2864
02:46:43,920 --> 02:46:48,879
prayer for Minxy who lost her friend me Wanda?

2865
02:46:49,680 --> 02:46:49,920
Speaker 1: Yeah?

2866
02:46:50,479 --> 02:46:51,319
Speaker 7: For her family?

2867
02:46:53,280 --> 02:46:53,440
Speaker 9: Yeah?

2868
02:46:54,760 --> 02:46:56,559
Speaker 17: Yeah, you want me to close some prayer there?

2869
02:46:57,600 --> 02:47:00,319
Speaker 1: All right? Guys, have any father? Would just thank you

2870
02:47:00,360 --> 02:47:02,760
for this day? Father God Lord, I just ask you

2871
02:47:03,600 --> 02:47:06,120
by the power of your Holy Spirit and the blood

2872
02:47:06,120 --> 02:47:08,680
that ran down that tree. Father God, Lord, that may

2873
02:47:08,680 --> 02:47:13,399
be people in here that don't know you as our

2874
02:47:13,440 --> 02:47:17,000
Lord and savior. Father God, I pray through this somehow,

2875
02:47:17,040 --> 02:47:20,319
Father God, that's seed had been planted, Father God, because

2876
02:47:20,319 --> 02:47:22,159
I know this goes down on a lot of platforms,

2877
02:47:22,280 --> 02:47:24,440
it's Lord, I just asked that you put your hand

2878
02:47:24,479 --> 02:47:27,360
upon all those platforms, Father God, let the seed has

2879
02:47:27,399 --> 02:47:30,520
been sold that brings people to you, Father God, the

2880
02:47:30,559 --> 02:47:33,040
Lord we have this friend on here, Father God, had lost.

2881
02:47:33,040 --> 02:47:37,559
There forem Father God, the loss of somebody is devastating.

2882
02:47:37,680 --> 02:47:41,000
We never I mean, it's just something that we know.

2883
02:47:41,680 --> 02:47:48,040
There's life, we know there's death. But Father, sometimes we

2884
02:47:48,159 --> 02:47:51,799
get angry. Sometimes we doubt, we don't.

2885
02:47:51,920 --> 02:47:56,200
Speaker 17: We just can't make all the pieces go together.

2886
02:47:56,840 --> 02:48:02,280
Speaker 1: And Father, I just asked that, Father God, that you

2887
02:48:02,319 --> 02:48:04,639
would send the power of the Holy Spirit, even while

2888
02:48:04,639 --> 02:48:07,440
we're saying this prayer to comfort this person. Because you're

2889
02:48:07,440 --> 02:48:10,120
the God of all comfort. Father, you say that you

2890
02:48:10,319 --> 02:48:13,799
come to us and comfort us in all of our

2891
02:48:14,200 --> 02:48:17,639
troubles that we go through, not only to comfort us,

2892
02:48:18,360 --> 02:48:23,399
but also so we will comfort others. So Father, I

2893
02:48:23,479 --> 02:48:25,559
just asked to give it peace in our heart, Father

2894
02:48:25,680 --> 02:48:30,520
God Lord. I for any needs of anybody listening right now.

2895
02:48:30,600 --> 02:48:32,760
They can just say them out louder. They can think

2896
02:48:32,760 --> 02:48:36,120
of them in their mind because you know everything. But

2897
02:48:36,399 --> 02:48:40,079
I just ask if you would grant them their needs Father,

2898
02:48:40,159 --> 02:48:42,760
where it's a financial Father God, or if it's a

2899
02:48:42,840 --> 02:48:46,079
touch of healing, Father God, whether their spirit and their

2900
02:48:46,159 --> 02:48:49,479
body and their soul, Father God, or be just asked

2901
02:48:49,799 --> 02:48:53,319
as to ask for our host here today, Father God,

2902
02:48:53,760 --> 02:48:57,319
allow me to pray open on the air, Father god Lord,

2903
02:48:57,319 --> 02:48:59,879
I lift them up, Father God Lord, ask that you

2904
02:49:00,120 --> 02:49:04,239
touchlee got and direct them, Father God, because this is

2905
02:49:04,280 --> 02:49:06,959
a big thing, Father god Lord, I just pray that

2906
02:49:07,440 --> 02:49:10,280
more people would understand what we're trying to do here.

2907
02:49:11,040 --> 02:49:13,239
And we give you all the glory and the thanks

2908
02:49:13,280 --> 02:49:20,159
and Jesus name, I pray amen and amen, Thank you

2909
02:49:20,159 --> 02:49:21,120
you bet guys.

2910
02:49:21,639 --> 02:49:26,680
Speaker 7: Thank you Dave. But that we will be back next

2911
02:49:26,719 --> 02:49:29,159
week Sunday night at seven, and we're going to see

2912
02:49:29,200 --> 02:49:30,040
you again, David.

2913
02:49:30,440 --> 02:49:31,360
Speaker 17: Okay, I'll thank you.

2914
02:49:31,879 --> 02:49:33,520
Speaker 1: Crazy over here she heard you.

2915
02:49:33,600 --> 02:49:36,920
Speaker 7: Yeah, good. We'll be in touch on them all right, Thanks,

2916
02:49:38,520 --> 02:49:38,959
all right.

2917
02:49:39,479 --> 02:49:42,639
Speaker 10: Call you up in the middle of the night and

2918
02:49:42,840 --> 02:49:48,120
bothered by dreams and feeling all day you give me comfort,

2919
02:49:48,159 --> 02:49:49,079
say just give.

2920
02:49:48,959 --> 02:49:49,959
Speaker 5: It some time.

2921
02:49:50,159 --> 02:49:54,000
Speaker 10: By the end of our talk and feeling just fine,

2922
02:49:54,559 --> 02:50:06,000
you and I always know when we be the signal ordinarysm.

2923
02:50:04,520 --> 02:50:06,280
Speaker 7: We got go in all.

2924
02:50:10,399 --> 02:50:13,319
Speaker 6: I pick you up in the fifteen hour part.

2925
02:50:13,760 --> 02:50:16,239
Speaker 7: We head on down the road till we.

2926
02:50:16,520 --> 02:50:21,079
Speaker 3: Care for just you and the sun and the wind.

2927
02:50:21,360 --> 02:50:22,840
Speaker 7: If the racious top.

2928
02:50:22,760 --> 02:50:25,000
Speaker 19: Calling, we head all over again.

2929
02:50:25,840 --> 02:50:29,360
Speaker 6: Everybody else can see when we've been.

2930
02:50:29,440 --> 02:50:37,479
Speaker 19: Long in no ordinary easm, we got go in all.

2931
02:50:39,920 --> 02:50:44,600
At the end of the world together forever swall and

2932
02:50:44,920 --> 02:50:48,559
our ray, if ever you should be in town in

2933
02:50:48,799 --> 02:50:53,959
our prey, we never puts apart, and always.

2934
02:50:55,479 --> 02:50:56,639
Speaker 6: All the time.

2935
02:50:56,440 --> 02:51:02,840
Speaker 19: When we made together every day rocados, it never would

2936
02:51:02,840 --> 02:51:06,120
be less straight up on the way.

2937
02:51:06,000 --> 02:51:34,040
Speaker 6: Back home workay.

2938
02:51:26,760 --> 02:51:28,159
Speaker 3: At the end of the.

2939
02:51:28,159 --> 02:51:33,840
Speaker 10: World together forever small than our way, if ever you

2940
02:51:33,959 --> 02:51:36,200
should be endowed a comparate.

2941
02:51:36,719 --> 02:51:39,559
Speaker 3: They never compose a part.

2942
02:51:39,159 --> 02:51:40,639
Speaker 5: In Norway.

2943
02:51:42,319 --> 02:51:45,559
Speaker 6: At the end of the world together.

2944
02:51:45,479 --> 02:51:47,840
Speaker 7: Forever is fond in Norway.

2945
02:51:48,440 --> 02:51:52,479
Speaker 10: If eether you should be in town in Hollway, they

2946
02:51:52,600 --> 02:51:58,360
never compose a part in all way, one.

2947
02:51:58,440 --> 02:52:00,639
Speaker 6: Time everything together.

2948
02:52:01,159 --> 02:52:02,680
Speaker 7: We never retain a.

2949
02:52:02,840 --> 02:52:07,479
Speaker 6: Hand those we never would be astray and all bound

2950
02:52:08,440 --> 02:52:11,120
by a go to you are again