WEBVTT 1 00:00:02.200 --> 00:00:10.599 You see something's going to happen. What what's going to happen? 2 00:00:12.359 --> 00:00:27.879 I think, what a help you. Welcome to Fridays. Unfortunately 3 00:00:28.239 --> 00:00:32.280 this week, uh my partner in crime JJ Vance not 4 00:00:33.079 --> 00:00:36.200 jd Vance to be confused with him. Uh, neither one 5 00:00:36.200 --> 00:00:41.159 of them will be joining us tonight. But fortunately, lucky me, 6 00:00:41.280 --> 00:00:42.920 I was able to grab some people to come on 7 00:00:43.000 --> 00:00:45.399 with me and try to make this a worthy episode 8 00:00:45.560 --> 00:00:49.960 without JJ here, So I got uh the man scientist herself, 9 00:00:50.079 --> 00:00:52.640 Lisa from The Occult Rejects. Thank you very much, Lisa, 10 00:00:52.679 --> 00:00:56.399 it's good to have you here. And I got my boy, 11 00:00:56.479 --> 00:00:59.359 Catalyst Jones kind of like co hosting with us tonight 12 00:00:59.719 --> 00:01:03.840 from White Rabbit Podcast. Real Quick, Catalyst, you want to 13 00:01:03.880 --> 00:01:06.599 let everybody know what your deal is and where they 14 00:01:06.599 --> 00:01:07.079 can find you. 15 00:01:09.000 --> 00:01:11.840 Yeah, man, I'm just your average guy that had questions 16 00:01:11.879 --> 00:01:14.280 and started digging into things and wanted to speak out 17 00:01:14.280 --> 00:01:16.480 about it. So you can find me on all of 18 00:01:16.519 --> 00:01:17.840 your usual suspects. 19 00:01:18.599 --> 00:01:23.000 Awesome, Thank you very much. And for tonight the guest 20 00:01:23.040 --> 00:01:28.120 of honor, backed by popular demand, we got Julia Cosmic 21 00:01:28.159 --> 00:01:31.640 Peach Podcast. Please, Julia, introduce yourself for the people who 22 00:01:31.680 --> 00:01:33.400 me and I know who you are. And let everybody 23 00:01:33.439 --> 00:01:34.760 know where they can find your amazing work. 24 00:01:35.680 --> 00:01:38.680 Thank you, and I'm excited to be back. I love 25 00:01:38.719 --> 00:01:42.359 coming on your show. I'm Julia, I host Cosmic Peach. 26 00:01:42.439 --> 00:01:45.560 Podcast is wherever you listen to podcasts, not YouTube. 27 00:01:46.200 --> 00:01:49.200 And yeah, I think you know. 28 00:01:49.959 --> 00:01:53.760 I started actually podcasting because I read a lot of 29 00:01:53.760 --> 00:01:57.159 books and wanted to talk to people about them because 30 00:01:57.200 --> 00:01:59.719 people don't like drue books anymore. And that's the first 31 00:02:00.079 --> 00:02:03.760 thing that we cover was Program to Kill. And then 32 00:02:03.799 --> 00:02:06.920 I read a book about Maryland and we've covered that 33 00:02:07.000 --> 00:02:09.479 already and actually what we're going to talk about today 34 00:02:09.520 --> 00:02:13.439 you can find in Program to Kill. And also I 35 00:02:13.520 --> 00:02:16.360 just did a bunch of like research on the side 36 00:02:16.439 --> 00:02:22.240 after I read about this guy, and I think Lisa 37 00:02:22.879 --> 00:02:25.919 has Actually it was in the news or something like that, 38 00:02:26.000 --> 00:02:27.879 and you were familiar with it. Two, So I'm actually 39 00:02:27.879 --> 00:02:29.639 really excited to get into it today. 40 00:02:31.000 --> 00:02:33.240 Oh yeah, no, yes, I was very excited, and I 41 00:02:33.280 --> 00:02:36.159 know at Lisa really wanted you to come on for 42 00:02:36.240 --> 00:02:39.080 this topic as well. And again, just just to make 43 00:02:39.120 --> 00:02:40.879 it clear, you did say you got this from the 44 00:02:40.879 --> 00:02:41.840 Program to Kill book. 45 00:02:42.879 --> 00:02:45.319 Yeah, yeah, And what I love the most about that 46 00:02:45.360 --> 00:02:48.280 book is because he puts all of his references in 47 00:02:48.319 --> 00:02:51.800 the back of the book, and there's pages and pages 48 00:02:51.840 --> 00:02:54.919 of references. And when I do a podcast, I like 49 00:02:55.000 --> 00:02:59.680 to try to give people some type of place where 50 00:02:59.719 --> 00:03:02.240 they can go and fact check me if they want to. 51 00:03:02.400 --> 00:03:03.319 And so, if you. 52 00:03:03.280 --> 00:03:05.639 Want more information about what we're talking about tonight, it's 53 00:03:05.680 --> 00:03:10.919 actually chapter nine of Program to Kill. It's called Rancho Diablo. 54 00:03:11.080 --> 00:03:12.479 So fucking fact check me. 55 00:03:12.759 --> 00:03:15.159 Assholes, hashtag look it up. 56 00:03:16.000 --> 00:03:18.719 Yeah right, yeah, which is also why when we did 57 00:03:18.759 --> 00:03:21.479 the Marilyn episode, I mentioned at the end of the episode, 58 00:03:21.479 --> 00:03:23.680 this is the book. Go read it for yourself. I'm 59 00:03:23.680 --> 00:03:26.240 not making any of this stuff up. It's very easy 60 00:03:26.240 --> 00:03:26.719 to find. 61 00:03:27.800 --> 00:03:29.360 Oh no, I didn't think that was the case. I 62 00:03:29.400 --> 00:03:30.199 just wanted to just. 63 00:03:31.120 --> 00:03:32.080 Oh yeah, no, no. 64 00:03:32.199 --> 00:03:34.560 I mean, but I do feel like sometimes, you know, 65 00:03:34.599 --> 00:03:36.520 you listen to a podcast and in the back of 66 00:03:36.560 --> 00:03:38.520 your mind, you're like, is that even real? 67 00:03:38.800 --> 00:03:40.879 Was does she even know what she's talking about? I've 68 00:03:40.919 --> 00:03:41.960 never heard that before. 69 00:03:42.159 --> 00:03:44.680 And I like to list my sites, you know, in 70 00:03:44.680 --> 00:03:47.719 case somebody wants to go back and fact checked me 71 00:03:47.919 --> 00:03:48.439 or whatever. 72 00:03:48.560 --> 00:03:51.439 But we're actually going to be That's what I love 73 00:03:51.520 --> 00:03:54.000 about your show, Julia. I love about your show. 74 00:03:54.080 --> 00:03:57.080 Is you always bring your receipts right, So you say 75 00:03:57.319 --> 00:04:00.240 how you came to your conclusion, but yet you also 76 00:04:00.319 --> 00:04:04.719 come to conclusions that normally people would overlook or not 77 00:04:04.719 --> 00:04:07.800 not come to, because you're one of those people that 78 00:04:07.800 --> 00:04:10.560 connects dots that get overlooked on the norm. 79 00:04:10.680 --> 00:04:13.280 And I would like to imaginate you for that. 80 00:04:13.960 --> 00:04:15.800 Thank you, and I'm glad you noticed that. 81 00:04:15.840 --> 00:04:18.639 And actually Lisa was the one who asked, I think 82 00:04:18.759 --> 00:04:22.480 if if I could cover this today because I mentioned 83 00:04:22.600 --> 00:04:25.399 names and I mentioned like little fragments of stuff, and 84 00:04:25.439 --> 00:04:27.399 I feel like sometimes you know, you hear it and 85 00:04:27.439 --> 00:04:29.240 it's like in one ear and out the other. But 86 00:04:29.360 --> 00:04:31.759 she picked up on this guy and it's, like I 87 00:04:31.800 --> 00:04:35.120 said before, he's his own episode. He might actually be 88 00:04:35.199 --> 00:04:39.399 two episodes worth of crazy. And his name is Adolpho 89 00:04:39.600 --> 00:04:42.560 and Stonzo. I don't know, Catalyst, if you had ever 90 00:04:42.600 --> 00:04:46.399 heard of this guy, but he is a whole fucking 91 00:04:47.279 --> 00:04:52.079 I mean, I like to call him a Dolpho cunt Stanzo, 92 00:04:52.480 --> 00:04:53.639 but he. 93 00:04:53.639 --> 00:04:55.759 Is just the weirdest guy. 94 00:04:56.120 --> 00:05:02.279 He's a cult leader, and you know, he was a 95 00:05:02.639 --> 00:05:08.720 Mexican drug lord that was believed to have supernatural powers. Actually, 96 00:05:08.879 --> 00:05:12.040 and so Lisa, I don't before I get on my soapbox. 97 00:05:12.079 --> 00:05:14.800 I actually wanted to ask you what your background is 98 00:05:14.959 --> 00:05:15.800 on Adolfo. 99 00:05:17.040 --> 00:05:21.199 So I listened to I was listening to your PTK 100 00:05:21.319 --> 00:05:25.800 series and you had briefly mentioned his name on I 101 00:05:25.839 --> 00:05:28.800 think the first episode that you covered PTK and just 102 00:05:28.920 --> 00:05:31.759 in passing and when you said his name, I remember 103 00:05:31.800 --> 00:05:33.480 I was standing in the bathrooms in my makeup and 104 00:05:33.519 --> 00:05:35.600 I was like, I like stared at the phone. I 105 00:05:35.680 --> 00:05:38.920 was like, don't tell me that guy's in that book. 106 00:05:39.519 --> 00:05:42.879 Because so growing up, I grew up in Texas, South Texas, 107 00:05:42.959 --> 00:05:46.720 to be exact, and one of the popular things here 108 00:05:46.839 --> 00:05:49.000 to do in spring break is to go to the 109 00:05:49.000 --> 00:05:51.759 island Padre Island, right and a gets so packed with 110 00:05:51.879 --> 00:05:54.720 so many people. Everybody from New York, Pennsylvania, California, everybody 111 00:05:54.720 --> 00:05:56.959 comes down here to come to the island during spring break. 112 00:05:56.959 --> 00:06:01.319 It's a big deal, specifically South Padre. And so South 113 00:06:01.360 --> 00:06:04.879 Padre is literally right at the cusp of the Mexican border, 114 00:06:05.040 --> 00:06:07.839 and one of the famous things to do, or one 115 00:06:07.879 --> 00:06:11.199 of the most fun things to do, was to cross 116 00:06:11.240 --> 00:06:16.399 into Renosa or Progresso or Matamotos, depending where you're at. Right, 117 00:06:17.600 --> 00:06:20.279 Mata Motives is going to be the area that's the 118 00:06:20.279 --> 00:06:23.920 closest to South Padre Island, and so what people would 119 00:06:23.959 --> 00:06:25.879 do is that they would go party all day at 120 00:06:26.360 --> 00:06:29.000 the island, and then in the evenings they just basically 121 00:06:29.040 --> 00:06:32.839 walk over into Matamotos and get drunk and do all 122 00:06:32.839 --> 00:06:36.800 what kinds of whatever. I think in Mexico at the time, 123 00:06:36.879 --> 00:06:39.279 and I think it's still the way there was. The 124 00:06:39.519 --> 00:06:41.439 legal age was eighteen, but I don't think they really 125 00:06:41.519 --> 00:06:43.800 checked or whatever, and you keep drinking all day and 126 00:06:43.839 --> 00:06:46.560 all night and whatever, and it was a fun thing 127 00:06:46.600 --> 00:06:50.120 for people to do. And then you started to hear 128 00:06:50.279 --> 00:06:54.040 on the news that people were going missing, and then 129 00:06:54.199 --> 00:06:59.240 that there was a search, and then they would announce 130 00:06:59.399 --> 00:07:01.319 do not go into Mexico. If you're going to go 131 00:07:01.360 --> 00:07:04.480 to the island, stay on the stay on the US side, 132 00:07:04.720 --> 00:07:08.680 do not go into Mexico. And then it came about 133 00:07:08.720 --> 00:07:11.759 that there was I think a ut student which University 134 00:07:11.759 --> 00:07:16.120 of Texas went missing. And then I believe there was 135 00:07:16.160 --> 00:07:19.959 a huge investigation down into Matamoros and that they had 136 00:07:20.040 --> 00:07:25.040 uncovered several bodies, and that from what I had heard, 137 00:07:25.240 --> 00:07:27.199 and of course the news didn't cover this, was that 138 00:07:27.240 --> 00:07:29.639 they were bodies that were mutilated. They were all kinds 139 00:07:29.680 --> 00:07:34.680 of like remnants of ritual sacrifice of some sort death cold, 140 00:07:34.759 --> 00:07:38.519 satan cold, whatever, and it was really really bad, and 141 00:07:38.560 --> 00:07:40.360 that it wasn't just one person that they found, but 142 00:07:40.399 --> 00:07:42.079 they at the time they had said it was five, 143 00:07:42.759 --> 00:07:45.399 but there was many others that they had found in 144 00:07:46.279 --> 00:07:50.800 other I guess sites or burial sites, and that there 145 00:07:50.839 --> 00:07:53.160 was a house and that there was body parts and 146 00:07:53.519 --> 00:07:55.759 a cauldron and stuff like that. And so you started 147 00:07:55.800 --> 00:07:57.639 to hear all these things. You don't know what's true, 148 00:07:57.720 --> 00:07:59.720 right because it's on the other side and this is 149 00:07:59.720 --> 00:08:01.800 what being told and the news really isn't covering, but 150 00:08:01.800 --> 00:08:04.319 they're telling you not to go down there. But then 151 00:08:04.600 --> 00:08:08.240 whenever it kind of blew up, this name starts coming 152 00:08:08.240 --> 00:08:10.079 out and you start to hear it all over the place. 153 00:08:10.120 --> 00:08:11.560 You're like, oh my god, that was the guy that 154 00:08:11.800 --> 00:08:13.879 was back then when they were telling us not to 155 00:08:13.879 --> 00:08:19.079 go into Mexico. So that was my background with that. 156 00:08:19.519 --> 00:08:20.920 So when you said the name, I was like. 157 00:08:21.480 --> 00:08:27.560 No, dude, And it's crazy because he's mentioned in Programmed 158 00:08:27.639 --> 00:08:31.399 to Kill but he also got his own episode on 159 00:08:31.639 --> 00:08:35.279 Ancient Aliens, Like there's so many ways that you can 160 00:08:35.320 --> 00:08:39.200 cover this guy, Like it's just bizarre. It's otherworldly what 161 00:08:39.360 --> 00:08:43.960 was going on there. And I think that actually the 162 00:08:44.000 --> 00:08:47.039 way that they portrayed it in the news was like 163 00:08:47.120 --> 00:08:49.840 a lot of the serial killers and stuff. How they 164 00:08:51.120 --> 00:08:54.039 it was nineteen eighty nine, by the way, in Mexico, 165 00:08:54.279 --> 00:08:57.799 they started searching for a missing college student and then 166 00:08:57.879 --> 00:08:59.399 they found this ranch. 167 00:08:59.720 --> 00:09:07.840 It was called Santa Elena Ranches. And so. 168 00:09:09.600 --> 00:09:12.480 The missic college student that they were looking for. His 169 00:09:12.559 --> 00:09:13.960 name was Mark Kilroy. 170 00:09:14.080 --> 00:09:14.879 It was a dude. 171 00:09:14.919 --> 00:09:18.919 He was twenty one years old, partying, like Lisa mentioned, 172 00:09:19.080 --> 00:09:21.399 it was like a party spot. And then they go 173 00:09:21.600 --> 00:09:24.879 looking for him and they come across this ranch and 174 00:09:25.399 --> 00:09:30.600 they find twelve bodies at first, and some of them 175 00:09:30.639 --> 00:09:33.360 have been shot, some of them have been hacked up 176 00:09:33.399 --> 00:09:38.200 with a machete. One of the graves did have Mark 177 00:09:38.279 --> 00:09:40.759 Kilroy's body in it, so he was abducted. 178 00:09:40.799 --> 00:09:42.080 They did murder him. 179 00:09:42.879 --> 00:09:46.120 A lot of them had like their spines ripped out 180 00:09:46.600 --> 00:09:51.399 and made into necklaces and other ceremonial type of jewelry. 181 00:09:51.759 --> 00:09:54.279 Some of them had been skinned alive, some of them 182 00:09:54.320 --> 00:09:55.679 had been buried alive. 183 00:09:56.360 --> 00:09:57.600 But the weird thing. 184 00:09:57.480 --> 00:10:03.440 About him is that Adolfo's followers wholeheartedly believed that he 185 00:10:03.639 --> 00:10:08.480 had supernatural powers, and so this is what gets him 186 00:10:08.600 --> 00:10:11.519 on Ancient Aliens because a lot of the stuff that 187 00:10:11.600 --> 00:10:14.360 he was doing and saying, and a lot of the 188 00:10:14.399 --> 00:10:19.360 stuff that people saw him doing was actually what they 189 00:10:19.480 --> 00:10:25.120 considered to be supernatural in nature. And they don't talk 190 00:10:25.159 --> 00:10:28.679 about this aspect in Program to Kill. He more talks 191 00:10:28.720 --> 00:10:31.279 about like the political side of things, because they made 192 00:10:31.279 --> 00:10:33.480 it appear in the news that this was random acts 193 00:10:33.519 --> 00:10:37.159 of violence, that this guy was just a crazy Satanist guy. 194 00:10:37.600 --> 00:10:40.960 And he was just abducting random people and just fucking 195 00:10:41.039 --> 00:10:43.679 him up and burying them all over his property. 196 00:10:43.720 --> 00:10:47.080 But it actually turns out that a lot of the 197 00:10:47.120 --> 00:10:49.960 people that they found it wasn't random at all. And 198 00:10:50.000 --> 00:10:52.000 I'm actually going to kind of get into that too, 199 00:10:53.360 --> 00:10:58.080 but it's said in total they found forty plus bodies 200 00:10:58.440 --> 00:10:59.240 on the property. 201 00:10:59.399 --> 00:11:02.360 So the news didn't even really want to report that. 202 00:11:02.480 --> 00:11:02.919 At first. 203 00:11:03.000 --> 00:11:05.840 It was like, oh, they found a couple bodies, and 204 00:11:05.879 --> 00:11:08.960 then it was like, okay, we found twelve graves, and 205 00:11:09.000 --> 00:11:10.720 then by the end of it they were like, Okay, 206 00:11:10.759 --> 00:11:14.679 there's probably forty plus victims that have been buried at 207 00:11:14.679 --> 00:11:21.759 this ranch. And he was practicing something called palo Sorry, 208 00:11:22.000 --> 00:11:24.159 I don't know if you guys are familiar with that 209 00:11:24.320 --> 00:11:28.080 at all, Palomamba is it's also referred to, and so 210 00:11:29.159 --> 00:11:35.679 it incorporates traditions and gods from West African religions. Actually, 211 00:11:37.720 --> 00:11:42.440 and Adolfo claimed that he was in communication with a 212 00:11:42.480 --> 00:11:47.720 god named Kadium Pimbe I think is how you pronounce it. 213 00:11:48.000 --> 00:11:51.320 And this god is also. 214 00:11:51.200 --> 00:11:54.559 Known as issue E Shu. 215 00:11:55.080 --> 00:11:57.879 And this is something that I had never heard before, 216 00:11:58.120 --> 00:12:04.120 and it was mentioned actually in the Ancient Aliens. And 217 00:12:04.200 --> 00:12:07.200 it was funny because sometimes I'll just watch Ancient Aliens 218 00:12:07.200 --> 00:12:10.159 to like go to sleep because it, first of all, 219 00:12:10.200 --> 00:12:11.919 it's a lot of propaganda stuff. 220 00:12:12.000 --> 00:12:16.120 Well it's easy stuff to listen to, right Yeah. 221 00:12:16.159 --> 00:12:18.080 It's like I'm going to clean the house and like 222 00:12:18.200 --> 00:12:21.559 fucking wash dishes and shit, I'll put on Ancient Aliens 223 00:12:21.559 --> 00:12:22.879 in the background or whatever. 224 00:12:23.360 --> 00:12:25.799 And so I was surprised at how much truth they 225 00:12:25.879 --> 00:12:31.240 sprinkle in there, though, Like if yous, if you take 226 00:12:31.240 --> 00:12:35.080 out aliens and outer space and replace it with nephylum 227 00:12:35.279 --> 00:12:38.679 and outer space, it all makes a lot of sense, 228 00:12:39.159 --> 00:12:40.200 right yeah, Like if you. 229 00:12:40.320 --> 00:12:44.600 Just swap out the the ets for like ancient gods 230 00:12:44.639 --> 00:12:47.600 and like black magic, sorcery shit, it makes a. 231 00:12:47.480 --> 00:12:50.679 Ton of sense. But so it was like, I don't know. 232 00:12:50.720 --> 00:12:53.279 A couple of months ago, I had turned on Ancient 233 00:12:53.320 --> 00:12:56.399 Aliens and they were like Adolfo Constanzo and I was like. 234 00:12:56.440 --> 00:12:58.440 It's a motherfucker in Program to Kill. 235 00:12:58.799 --> 00:13:00.840 I was like, how the fuck is see an Ancient 236 00:13:00.879 --> 00:13:05.679 Aliens episode? But so it's because his followers and he 237 00:13:05.879 --> 00:13:09.840 said that he was in direct communication with this Kodim 238 00:13:09.919 --> 00:13:14.960 Pimbe and that he was practicing polo sorcery. And when 239 00:13:15.039 --> 00:13:18.080 you look at this god, he has like the big 240 00:13:18.120 --> 00:13:22.639 elongated eyes and the big skull and shit. And they 241 00:13:22.679 --> 00:13:25.759 say that he was worshiping some type of god that 242 00:13:25.799 --> 00:13:28.720 would have been like acinate and in ancient Egypt, with 243 00:13:28.799 --> 00:13:33.320 the big elongated skull and shit, and some say that 244 00:13:33.440 --> 00:13:37.080 he was into like this fallen angel type of god 245 00:13:37.200 --> 00:13:42.200 king worship. And so he gets his own episode on 246 00:13:42.360 --> 00:13:45.759 Ancient Aliens and I look into this shit because I'm interested, 247 00:13:46.480 --> 00:13:52.000 and it's actually a shape shifter god. And you know 248 00:13:52.080 --> 00:13:54.600 how they love to talk about shape shifters and all 249 00:13:54.639 --> 00:13:58.480 this stuff, and they'll actually sensationalize this stuff. 250 00:13:59.759 --> 00:14:02.240 Because has if they can get you to look. 251 00:14:02.080 --> 00:14:06.080 At just the black magic aspect of these murders, then 252 00:14:06.120 --> 00:14:09.559 they don't have to explain any of the inconsistencies with 253 00:14:09.720 --> 00:14:14.879 like who they were murdering and like what who was 254 00:14:14.960 --> 00:14:16.559 running the cult and. 255 00:14:16.559 --> 00:14:17.519 Some shit like that. 256 00:14:18.879 --> 00:14:23.320 And I actually, just for those of you who are familiar, 257 00:14:23.480 --> 00:14:26.519 have you guys watched American Horror Story season covin. 258 00:14:28.440 --> 00:14:28.480 No? 259 00:14:29.399 --> 00:14:30.200 What was that about? 260 00:14:30.759 --> 00:14:32.120 Season? Not that season? 261 00:14:33.120 --> 00:14:34.240 It's my favorite season. 262 00:14:34.279 --> 00:14:37.399 It's the one about the witches in New Orleans and 263 00:14:37.960 --> 00:14:42.360 one of the really nick it's the best season in 264 00:14:42.399 --> 00:14:45.679 my opinion for some of the more conspiracy type stuff. 265 00:14:46.240 --> 00:14:49.200 But they have like a god in that season that 266 00:14:49.240 --> 00:14:51.519 the witches kind of work with, and his name is 267 00:14:51.519 --> 00:14:55.279 Papa Legba. But he's based off this god that Adolfo 268 00:14:55.360 --> 00:15:00.600 Constanso actually worshiping. So it it to me seems like 269 00:15:00.679 --> 00:15:01.480 a real seed. 270 00:15:03.320 --> 00:15:03.960 Papa Lega. 271 00:15:05.399 --> 00:15:05.600 Yeah. 272 00:15:05.639 --> 00:15:10.200 They say like this god, this Katiam, Pimbae issue, Papa Legba, 273 00:15:10.240 --> 00:15:14.279 they all represent like the same archetype, if you will. 274 00:15:14.960 --> 00:15:19.919 And they say that actually this this one deity that 275 00:15:19.919 --> 00:15:25.159 that Adolpho was worshiping like to speak to people through dogs. 276 00:15:25.440 --> 00:15:29.279 And they actually connected that with David Berkowitz because they 277 00:15:29.320 --> 00:15:32.159 said he would get his messages through dogs. 278 00:15:31.759 --> 00:15:32.639 And stuff like that. 279 00:15:32.840 --> 00:15:36.639 And David Berkowitz comes up a lot in Program to Kill. 280 00:15:36.799 --> 00:15:40.399 So I think that there is a duality to everything. 281 00:15:40.480 --> 00:15:43.320 I think that there is a spiritual duality and also 282 00:15:43.399 --> 00:15:47.279 like a governmental kind of I don't think that those 283 00:15:47.279 --> 00:15:49.440 two things have to be separate. I think that they're 284 00:15:49.600 --> 00:15:52.679 very much enmeshed with each other. So yeah, I do. 285 00:15:53.320 --> 00:15:55.279 When I look at this case, I do see a 286 00:15:55.320 --> 00:15:58.720 lot of like how ancient Aliens was trying to depict 287 00:15:58.720 --> 00:16:02.200 it and being like a spiritual thing with black magic. 288 00:16:02.559 --> 00:16:05.080 But I also look at it from the perspective that 289 00:16:05.200 --> 00:16:07.960 David McGowan was writing about in Programmed to Kill, where 290 00:16:08.000 --> 00:16:11.039 it's like, yeah, it's spiritual, but also like, look at 291 00:16:11.080 --> 00:16:13.120 the type of people that they were abducting. 292 00:16:13.159 --> 00:16:14.919 They're all like ex. 293 00:16:14.799 --> 00:16:19.559 Police officers and like DEA agents and FBI agents, Like 294 00:16:19.639 --> 00:16:20.639 this isn't random. 295 00:16:20.960 --> 00:16:22.360 They're they're choosing their. 296 00:16:22.279 --> 00:16:27.120 Victims very specifically and kind of like what we were 297 00:16:27.159 --> 00:16:31.759 talking about in our Maryland episode. Adolpho was arrested in August, 298 00:16:32.519 --> 00:16:37.080 and there is a lot of eights that are around Adolpho. 299 00:16:38.480 --> 00:16:41.000 They say that he had only killed eight victims. It 300 00:16:41.039 --> 00:16:42.759 turned out to be a lot more, but that's the 301 00:16:42.759 --> 00:16:45.360 first number they came out with and then he was 302 00:16:45.440 --> 00:16:48.320 arrested in August, so there was like a double eight there. 303 00:16:49.120 --> 00:16:53.919 But here's huh, I tho, dude, I think that the 304 00:16:54.000 --> 00:16:58.000 eight is super significant when you see it like and 305 00:16:58.039 --> 00:16:59.919 specifically with stuff like this too. 306 00:17:00.000 --> 00:17:05.039 Well it's just weird, but well an occultism. It is 307 00:17:05.519 --> 00:17:07.480 in reference to the infinity, right. 308 00:17:07.680 --> 00:17:12.400 The magician too for sure, and he is a magician 309 00:17:12.440 --> 00:17:17.200 of sorts, right, so idiot even that you get like. 310 00:17:17.359 --> 00:17:21.119 H yeah, he and you know, we talked about this later, 311 00:17:21.119 --> 00:17:24.799 but he is looking at some of the stuff. I believe. 312 00:17:24.960 --> 00:17:29.240 One of the claims was that the padrino that he 313 00:17:29.359 --> 00:17:32.960 studied under adult who did as a kid, that he 314 00:17:33.119 --> 00:17:36.079 locked him in with that deity, the one that you 315 00:17:36.240 --> 00:17:39.160 just mentioned, that he performed all these rituals in order 316 00:17:39.200 --> 00:17:43.480 to bind him to that deity. And he was the 317 00:17:43.480 --> 00:17:47.559 one that like I think when he was and even 318 00:17:47.599 --> 00:17:49.599 the way he was born to and you covered this 319 00:17:50.160 --> 00:17:53.440 so well, the way he was born is just very questionable. 320 00:17:53.839 --> 00:17:57.920 But that that priest basically said, this child is chosen, 321 00:17:58.039 --> 00:18:00.680 He's the one. He's going to be powerful. Like it's 322 00:18:00.799 --> 00:18:03.000 just all this, like I. 323 00:18:03.000 --> 00:18:06.400 Don't know, Well, it reminds me because a lot of 324 00:18:06.400 --> 00:18:10.960 these Satanists are generational, right, And so I talked about 325 00:18:11.000 --> 00:18:14.160 it with Henry Lee Lucas and Otis Toole in the 326 00:18:14.200 --> 00:18:17.480 Program to Kill episode where they said that their parents, 327 00:18:17.559 --> 00:18:20.160 their mothers, dressed them as girls and they were kind 328 00:18:20.160 --> 00:18:21.599 of like involved. 329 00:18:21.160 --> 00:18:22.720 In generational Satanism. 330 00:18:23.200 --> 00:18:27.000 And Adolfo was born into generational Satanism. 331 00:18:27.119 --> 00:18:28.599 His mother was something. 332 00:18:28.279 --> 00:18:34.440 Of a high priestess and he worked with this other guy, 333 00:18:34.519 --> 00:18:38.039 I think it was in Puerto Rico, who, like you said, 334 00:18:38.119 --> 00:18:40.839 kind of blessed him and was he was under this 335 00:18:40.920 --> 00:18:43.839 guy's like tutelage or whatever, trying to become a master 336 00:18:44.039 --> 00:18:44.960 fucking Satanist. 337 00:18:45.759 --> 00:18:47.440 And I'll look at this. 338 00:18:47.480 --> 00:18:51.240 Eighty eight piano keys, look at all of that shit. 339 00:18:51.319 --> 00:18:54.160 The Dolorean. Oh yeah, I gun it to eighty eight. 340 00:18:54.480 --> 00:18:58.240 Fucking I love the future. I think it's actually got 341 00:18:58.279 --> 00:19:02.559 a lot of conspiracy stuff in it. But anyways, here's 342 00:19:02.599 --> 00:19:05.839 the kicker, because you can't separate the Satanism from the 343 00:19:05.880 --> 00:19:09.880 governmental stuff. Because he served in the United States Army 344 00:19:10.039 --> 00:19:13.039 in the sixties, just like a lot of our serial killers. 345 00:19:14.119 --> 00:19:16.759 And he claims that while he was in the army, 346 00:19:16.920 --> 00:19:20.759 he had been initiated into a violent Satanic cult that 347 00:19:20.960 --> 00:19:25.319 orchestrated these incidents as part of a ritual murder, just 348 00:19:25.440 --> 00:19:29.839 like Henry Lee Lucas said, and otis tool. But on 349 00:19:29.920 --> 00:19:34.319 top of that, like BTK, the Zodiac Killer, Jack the Ripper, 350 00:19:34.880 --> 00:19:38.640 and Adolpho Constanzo, they all end up writing letters to 351 00:19:38.839 --> 00:19:43.599 the police. And it's almost like there's this interesting connection 352 00:19:43.799 --> 00:19:50.640 between programmed serial killers. I'm including Adolpho in that and 353 00:19:50.799 --> 00:19:55.880 the police and or military style shit. And it's just 354 00:19:56.039 --> 00:19:59.359 interesting to me that there's this aspect of him writing 355 00:19:59.440 --> 00:20:02.039 letters to the police. They could have known about this 356 00:20:02.119 --> 00:20:04.960 guy and stopped him a long time ago, but they didn't, 357 00:20:05.519 --> 00:20:08.519 just like the Zodiac, just like VTK, just like Jack 358 00:20:08.559 --> 00:20:11.839 the Ripper took it takes him forever if they even 359 00:20:11.920 --> 00:20:13.640 find out. 360 00:20:12.960 --> 00:20:14.839 Who this who these people are. 361 00:20:14.880 --> 00:20:17.240 They never fucking find found out who Jack the Ripper 362 00:20:17.319 --> 00:20:20.160 or the Zodiac was. But here's all these letters right 363 00:20:20.279 --> 00:20:26.119 written to the police. And so I do think that 364 00:20:27.480 --> 00:20:32.079 he's saying that he's basically like a government employee. He 365 00:20:32.480 --> 00:20:35.519 was in the military. He does have this background of 366 00:20:35.599 --> 00:20:39.440 being a Satanist. He was born into generational Satanism because 367 00:20:39.440 --> 00:20:41.240 his mother was fucking batshit crazy. 368 00:20:42.000 --> 00:20:46.279 But I think it's safe to say like. 369 00:20:48.480 --> 00:20:51.440 He's a lot like the other cast of characters with 370 00:20:51.920 --> 00:20:59.039 the ritualism and the governmental stuff and being protected from 371 00:20:59.039 --> 00:21:04.519 on high because one of the more compelling aspects of 372 00:21:04.599 --> 00:21:09.559 Henry Lee Lucas's story was his contention that he had 373 00:21:09.680 --> 00:21:14.559 ties to cult run ranches that were just south of 374 00:21:14.640 --> 00:21:17.519 the US border, Okay, and then boom, out of nowhere, 375 00:21:17.519 --> 00:21:22.480 in nineteen eighty nine, this ranch, Adolpho's Ranch, was discovered 376 00:21:22.599 --> 00:21:28.559 just south of Brownsville, Texas, Okay, and Adolpho is saying 377 00:21:28.599 --> 00:21:31.799 he was inducted into a military satanic cult, just like 378 00:21:31.880 --> 00:21:35.240 Henry Lee Lucas said he was. And I don't think 379 00:21:35.279 --> 00:21:38.720 that that is a coincidence. Henry Lee Lucas is saying 380 00:21:38.799 --> 00:21:44.359 there are cult run ranches that are inducting people to 381 00:21:44.400 --> 00:21:47.400 become almost like cult leaders, and they're murdering a bunch 382 00:21:47.440 --> 00:21:50.200 of people. And then all of a sudden we find 383 00:21:50.200 --> 00:21:55.440 Adolpho's Ranch, and it matches the exact description that Henry 384 00:21:55.559 --> 00:21:58.039 Lee Lucas took a map and he said he marked 385 00:21:58.039 --> 00:22:00.160 a next and he said, there's a ranch right here. 386 00:22:00.279 --> 00:22:03.559 There's a ranch right here. You'll find dead bodies all 387 00:22:03.559 --> 00:22:06.720 over the place. And they were like, Okay, Henry fucking 388 00:22:06.759 --> 00:22:10.480 made a net Flicks documentary saying, oh, Henry the confession 389 00:22:10.559 --> 00:22:15.039 killer couldn't possibly have been He couldn't possibly have known 390 00:22:15.119 --> 00:22:17.599 all this stuff. But yet somehow he was able to 391 00:22:17.680 --> 00:22:19.759 lead them right to these fucking ranches where all these 392 00:22:19.839 --> 00:22:26.119 dead people were. And more than half of Adolpho's cult 393 00:22:26.160 --> 00:22:33.000 members and priestesses were from Brownsville, Texas. They weren't Mexican, 394 00:22:33.200 --> 00:22:35.400 and you know a lot of people say that, oh, well, they. 395 00:22:35.240 --> 00:22:37.200 Were just crazy Mexican people. 396 00:22:37.279 --> 00:22:40.200 And they were all part of They were from Brownsville, Texas, 397 00:22:40.240 --> 00:22:43.119 and most of them went to Southmost Texas College and 398 00:22:43.160 --> 00:22:47.720 were majoring in law enforcement, so they were Americans, they 399 00:22:47.720 --> 00:22:50.839 were educated. I don't know how the fuck they got 400 00:22:50.880 --> 00:22:53.920 involved in that, but here they show up Adolpho's fucking 401 00:22:54.000 --> 00:22:57.440