Speaker 1: Hey, everybody, It's Tuesday, January fourteenth, twenty twenty five. We
Speaker 1: are halfway through the month of January, and I have
Speaker 1: not seized the month enough because my name is Janehoa
Speaker 1: host the Josh Bomb Cast, Episode eight hundred and seventy three,
Speaker 1: powered by Poggs. That's right, whatever you want it to be,
Speaker 1: spell it however you want it. But what is purely
Speaker 1: defined here is co captain of the ship Jeff Grubb.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we're gonna rename it to Jebruary. If you're not careful, man,
Speaker 2: you got to start picking up the pace here in January.
Speaker 1: Okay, all right, I'm gonna start disco choa Elysium next Monday.
Speaker 1: Just we'll just roll with that. Oh yeah, we we
Speaker 1: have our own narrative designer of Giant Pump dot Com
Speaker 1: Dan Reikert. Wait, do it again.
Speaker 3: I want to do the Raymisterio entrance.
Speaker 1: Okay, we've got our own car six one night.
Speaker 3: Hey, what's up, guys, it's pretty good.
Speaker 1: That was very good. Can you do the snekara one
Speaker 1: next podcast?
Speaker 3: Yeah, I get a trampoline out and my head on
Speaker 3: the ceiling and.
Speaker 1: We can't talk about POGs if we're without the grand Master,
Speaker 1: the authority, the pog Slammer, the bad boy of games media,
Speaker 1: the playboy of the site. Mike Manati, Hi, Hey, how's
Speaker 1: it going.
Speaker 3: It's great. It's great to be me. How are you?
Speaker 1: I'm good? Now?
Speaker 3: What's going on here?
Speaker 1: Mike? What's up? Come on? You're the happy guy.
Speaker 2: You could call him the pog Slammer and he has
Speaker 2: to pretend he doesn't like it?
Speaker 1: Come on?
Speaker 3: How are you gonna spell Pog on the shirt.
Speaker 2: The correct way?
Speaker 4: I feel like I opened my mouth and I get
Speaker 4: people like Mike's gonna be canceled, and I'm like, why
Speaker 4: did I say something about super Metroid?
Speaker 5: You are the one explaining what Pog was loudly on
Speaker 5: this podcast before, because you asked.
Speaker 3: It wasn't on this podcast. It was on something Okay?
Speaker 3: I think goes there? Anything goes.
Speaker 5: Killed.
Speaker 1: Jimmy Carter that their adult swim is yes, yes, uh,
Speaker 1: it's also our snick. It is also Gas.
Speaker 4: Got a miss Gas Gas Nicola and Games and Sports
Speaker 4: was the best channel ever.
Speaker 1: Why why hasn't anyone reached out about letting us collectively
Speaker 1: host like a game show like that?
Speaker 5: Did they ever bring back guts? I feel like they
Speaker 5: brought everything they even tried with Legends of Hidden Temple.
Speaker 3: Kid kids game shows just aren't thing anymore.
Speaker 1: People just insane. They on that ship.
Speaker 3: They just want Bester beast like get like that.
Speaker 2: Definitely definitely want like taking over. You're right, there was
Speaker 2: that like the floor is Lava show on Netflix that.
Speaker 1: Was yeh sure, sure yeah.
Speaker 4: I mean they made all those shows that because they're
Speaker 4: probably very cheap to make, but yeah, I love them.
Speaker 5: Also, I remember, even as a kid, thinking the best
Speaker 5: job in the world would be the guys that had
Speaker 5: to stand on top of the Agro Crag with the
Speaker 5: pham boulders and you're just being in these fucking kids
Speaker 5: ye boulders. Like as a kid, I could see you
Speaker 5: as a teple guardian too, Yes, absolutely, but I'd be
Speaker 5: given like snug clotheslines and stuff.
Speaker 2: I've always said my my dream job would be to
Speaker 2: be that big, burly American guy that was on to
Speaker 2: Keshi's castle that would just run into Japanese people that
Speaker 2: were trying to get to the end of an obstacle course.
Speaker 2: That would be my dream job.
Speaker 1: As you try and pronounce where you go, I can't
Speaker 1: say it now. Yeah, go to I feel like these
Speaker 1: those game shows do exist, but they're all on the streamers. Now.
Speaker 1: Have y'all heard of Human Versus Hamster? No? It is
Speaker 1: a mattress the one to watch for HBO. So that's
Speaker 1: where I watch my wrestling. Yeah, yes, yes, uh so.
Speaker 1: The premise is they have like an obstacle course for
Speaker 1: a human to run. Okay, they also have a similar
Speaker 1: obstacle course that is a replica for a hamster to
Speaker 1: get through, and then the human has to race the
Speaker 1: hamster the shit.
Speaker 5: Out of any hamster in that situation. Put me on
Speaker 5: that show, for shoot, that would be incredible. Man, I
Speaker 5: want to be on any game show. I applied to
Speaker 5: be on the New Supermarket Sweep.
Speaker 2: Put me on.
Speaker 1: I'd be great on a game show.
Speaker 3: You would be Yes, I don't know what's going to
Speaker 3: disagree with you?
Speaker 1: Where were you folks in twenty twenty five, when Dan
Speaker 1: shifted his focus on trying to defeat children worldwide to hamsters.
Speaker 5: I would also do a game show where I try
Speaker 5: to defeat children, and I would beat most of them
Speaker 5: at most things.
Speaker 2: We should just spin off any related are you Are
Speaker 2: you smarter than a fifth grader? Do you think you
Speaker 2: would handle that one, all right?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 3: What great is Dylan in?
Speaker 1: Not? How old is he's?
Speaker 2: Uh?
Speaker 5: I think so he's like fourth or fifth or Okay, seriously,
Speaker 5: I'm not kidding at all. Throw that kid on a
Speaker 5: trivia show with me. I will kick his ass.
Speaker 2: But are you smarter than fifth grader? Is the stuff
Speaker 2: you learned on back to school and immediately forgot?
Speaker 3: All right, hit me with something, I'll give you my
Speaker 3: shoot answer?
Speaker 2: Uh yeah. The process that makes the sun give a photo?
Speaker 2: He's got everybody right?
Speaker 1: All right? What is the powerhouse of the cell?
Speaker 3: This was Miandria?
Speaker 1: All right, Okay, Okay, I think we're good.
Speaker 3: I think I was ready for tell Hawaii?
Speaker 1: Is he got it? Guys? I think we're ready. I
Speaker 1: think we're ready for big Cat. Yeah.
Speaker 2: The first one was completely incorrect, but yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: we're good. Yeah, are you joking?
Speaker 5: I didn't let you finish, so I was trying to
Speaker 5: be cocky and say, before you finish the whole thing.
Speaker 2: Yeah, what is the process by which the sun gives
Speaker 2: off energy?
Speaker 1: Like?
Speaker 2: Where's the energy coming from? What is that process called?
Speaker 1: He cool? All right, there we go. Better than photosynthesis? Ye,
Speaker 1: solar flares?
Speaker 2: Yeah, nuclear fusion.
Speaker 3: Yes, there's not snorks on the fucking Sun.
Speaker 1: No, No, that's where they store them. And there's there's
Speaker 1: nuclear Okay.
Speaker 3: It is weird how little you.
Speaker 4: Know about the Sun specifically. Most people are very interested
Speaker 4: in learning about the Sun. That'd be very happy about it.
Speaker 4: I am pros Sun. We named entire days after it.
Speaker 4: You know, I'm a big Sun fan. Okay, Like, I
Speaker 4: don't want to change any of that operation.
Speaker 5: I'm just not going to talk about No, I don't
Speaker 5: know how the inner workings work, you know.
Speaker 2: Sure?
Speaker 1: Hmmmm, you know what? I still I still think we
Speaker 1: should spin off no one this, this part of the
Speaker 1: podcast is not going to get posted. All right, everyone
Speaker 1: watching live, huddle up together, all right. We're just gonna
Speaker 1: make a game show network. Okay, yeah, yes, all right,
Speaker 1: but we're also going to be able to compete on
Speaker 1: the game shows.
Speaker 2: Yes, Oh that's fun.
Speaker 3: Can we make it a work so we always win?
Speaker 1: Of course? We run that, we run it. Why have
Speaker 1: done this before?
Speaker 2: This seems a great They did do it, and they
Speaker 2: got a lot of trouble.
Speaker 3: Was this the McDonald monopoly?
Speaker 2: Uh and the that like game show guy that like
Speaker 2: they tried to make look extra smart to tell the truth.
Speaker 1: Or everyone lying about his video game stats?
Speaker 2: Again?
Speaker 5: What was it the George Clooney Black and White movie?
Speaker 5: What was the with Sam? What am I thinking of?
Speaker 3: Well?
Speaker 2: I don't think it was George Clooney black and White one.
Speaker 2: I think was it Ralph Finds and Rains.
Speaker 1: You're read onto this conversation too, Okay, what's the one
Speaker 1: I'm fucking thinking about? It's black and white?
Speaker 5: It was like was saying it was Edward Norton or
Speaker 5: Sam Rock called good night and good luck?
Speaker 2: Yeah? Good? Well, yeah, but that was not a game show.
Speaker 2: I don't remember what it was that was him about.
Speaker 2: That was him doing the nightly news, the Taylor Soldier spot.
Speaker 2: I'm sorry, but him thinking no, good night, you got
Speaker 2: good luck is about a famous nightly news anchor, not
Speaker 2: a game show. I can see how the confused because
Speaker 2: they're both on the television.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but when you think about it, are they so different?
Speaker 2: Wow?
Speaker 1: Wow, And that's your metaphor of this week, folks. Thanks
Speaker 1: for joining us for the Giant Bombcastle. See you next week.
Speaker 4: For another I was watching the wind Bag yesterday. He
Speaker 4: seemed to shoot hot as a work. Uh he said
Speaker 4: that Giant Bomb unfollowed him and then like followed him
Speaker 4: back right away.
Speaker 3: But I get to the bottom of this. What happened here?
Speaker 1: Oh okay, so I will oh no, no, no, no, no,
Speaker 1: I'm not involved in this, Okay. I was looking for
Speaker 1: people to raid and then I think I had said
Speaker 1: it set it up to raid Bailey. And then I
Speaker 1: checked who else was streaming, and I was like, oh,
Speaker 1: the wind Bag is streaming, but it wasn't on like
Speaker 1: are followed? So I checked. I went onto wind bags
Speaker 1: twitch channel and then I hit follow and then I
Speaker 1: was wondering for myself who unfollowed? Who pressed the button?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 5: Oh, followed him as the giant bomb account for a
Speaker 5: long time many times.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: I then a guy access to the twitch account who.
Speaker 1: It's Wow, it was I never liked yeah anyone heat
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, likes like Dylan and like Wayne Gretzky. Guys,
Speaker 1: if you look at Backlar's Blue Sky, he's only following
Speaker 1: a burner for Dibb Wayne Gretzky and he's unfollowed all
Speaker 1: of us. That is true. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Anyway,
Speaker 1: how's everyone doing? Okay? Great? Yeah?
Speaker 4: Yeah, Actually I felt decent today. I think most of
Speaker 4: the year I had been sick until like yesterday, I
Speaker 4: finally felt so that's nice.
Speaker 2: I started eating kim chi.
Speaker 1: Did you see the thing about it fighting obesity?
Speaker 2: No? I, but I did watch a movie about gut
Speaker 2: health documentary and they mentioned it in there.
Speaker 1: There's stuff in your gut.
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, But it's like, when you think about it, it's
Speaker 2: like we didn't have brains for like a long time
Speaker 2: in evolution, but we had guts the entire time.
Speaker 1: We had to eat stuff.
Speaker 2: So it's like, what did they do before they had brains.
Speaker 2: It's like, oh, the gut was just doing all the thinking.
Speaker 3: Yeah, there's like serotonin receptors in your gut.
Speaker 1: It's crazy. Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, anyway, kim chi, that's that's good. That's real good.
Speaker 2: You open it up and it's all bubbly like champagne,
Speaker 2: but there's a bunch of vegetables in there and that's weird.
Speaker 2: And then you eat it and it tastes awesome. Yeah. Yeah, stuff. Yeah.
Speaker 1: It seems like a look at the most you foods.
Speaker 2: Yeah oh yeah, yeah, I'm into I had to look
Speaker 2: at like, wait, I thought fermented always meant alcohol, and
Speaker 2: it's like, oh no, that depends on what you're fermenting like.
Speaker 3: Rotten, so I stay away from that.
Speaker 2: Well yeah, okay, that's not really I mean it does
Speaker 2: beers like there's living things in there, such.
Speaker 1: Stay away.
Speaker 5: Yeah, you drink beer, yeah yeah, but it's not alive. Yes,
Speaker 5: it's beers, not alive. I'm not gonna do I'm not doing.
Speaker 1: This from cheek and.
Speaker 5: Anything with living running around to me. But was inside
Speaker 5: of it like that, I'm not doing this.
Speaker 2: But that's what makes the gut good.
Speaker 6: You need that stuff, I mean good gut probiotics, mental
Speaker 6: gymnastics to explain why actually I don't drink enzymes and
Speaker 6: beer or whatever.
Speaker 4: And then you just went and ate all the degreaser
Speaker 4: because he didn't want to do it intentionally.
Speaker 1: It was five bucks, but you did do it attentionally.
Speaker 3: That was the major point of the story.
Speaker 5: Well, I didn't like, oh I'm gonna have a bowl
Speaker 5: of degreaser for dinner.
Speaker 1: Weird.
Speaker 2: No you did, though, because you knew what it was.
Speaker 2: But you still ate it.
Speaker 5: But I'm not fucking up anymore. I've been making dinner
Speaker 5: every night now and it's like I'm learning. I learned
Speaker 5: how to not make the chicken explode all over me.
Speaker 5: And burn me with oil. That refused to be proud
Speaker 5: of you. No, it's I'm feeling great. I'm good enough
Speaker 5: in the mornings. I'm feeling healthy.
Speaker 1: It's good. You know what. I'm going to continue to
Speaker 1: be proud of you.
Speaker 3: Dan, you're reading a supportive I appreciate that.
Speaker 1: It's the duality of man here.
Speaker 5: All right, thank you, heykay, it turns out okay, actual
Speaker 5: question here.
Speaker 1: Okay.
Speaker 5: So I'm actually trying to get better about this. I
Speaker 5: learned because I'm doing the chicken thing. So I buy
Speaker 5: a thing of like six or seven chicken breasts. I
Speaker 5: individually put them in ziplock bags with some seasonings and
Speaker 5: some marinade, throw them in the freezer, and then when
Speaker 5: I'm ready, I tossed it in the souv a couple hours.
Speaker 5: I got a nice, delicious chicken breast of the end,
Speaker 5: but it's got a marinade in there, and sometimes water
Speaker 5: gets in the bag, so it's very wet. And so
Speaker 5: I realized early on that I was putting the chicken
Speaker 5: into like I take a pan, I make it medium hot.
Speaker 5: I put oil in the pan, and then I dropped
Speaker 5: the chicken in and it's just Shit's loud, and it's
Speaker 5: spray everywhere. It's burning me. It's all over the stovetop.
Speaker 5: So yeah, last night I looked up some stuff. If
Speaker 5: I don't google, I googled it and I padded down
Speaker 5: the chicken breast with paper towels to make sure they
Speaker 5: weren't wet because it's the thing with the water and
Speaker 5: the oil, and that actually helped a lot. Now my question,
Speaker 5: I have long heard the thing about oil and water
Speaker 5: don't mix. That's a saying that people say all the time, right,
Speaker 5: It's just it's saying, and it's the truth. I understand, okay,
Speaker 5: But I'm trying to understand the mechanics of it because okay,
Speaker 5: I've got that figured out now with making sure the
Speaker 5: chicken's not wet when I put it in. But when
Speaker 5: I'm done, I put the chicken on the plate, then
Speaker 5: I got a pan full of I guess it's oil
Speaker 5: at that point, olive oil probably, and I'll put it
Speaker 5: in the sink and sometimes I put the water in
Speaker 5: there and it goes crazy and it's loud and it's scary.
Speaker 3: So what is happening with that oil and water? And
Speaker 3: how do you.
Speaker 4: Safely do the oil and water first off, let your
Speaker 4: pan cool before you start cleaning it. That's not gon'd
Speaker 4: be good for the pan.
Speaker 1: Okay, damn, do never pour that oil down the drain.
Speaker 1: I've been doing that every night.
Speaker 2: Okay. And what's your Q? So what is your question about?
Speaker 2: Like are you asking my oil and water don't mix it?
Speaker 3: Just what is the right way of dealing with this?
Speaker 1: Okay? So state your problem again that you want to
Speaker 1: deal with.
Speaker 5: So I'm full, like when I have a pan full
Speaker 5: of oil oil and you want to clean it. Yeah,
Speaker 5: and I've done it and I realized that, like, oh okay,
Speaker 5: it seems like if I put water straight in it,
Speaker 5: it's just so ape.
Speaker 2: Shit, right, don't put water like So that's this is
Speaker 2: why we have the greaser, because you mix the degreaser
Speaker 2: in with the water and that will help it bond
Speaker 2: a little bit more to the oil because the oil
Speaker 2: is one of them has a polarity and the other
Speaker 2: one doesn't. Where it's like they have a positive electron
Speaker 2: on one end and that is where they don't.
Speaker 1: We're going to macro.
Speaker 2: We're going okay, yes, it's about polarity. That's why they
Speaker 2: don't come together. But when you get soap in there.
Speaker 2: It helps it mix together.
Speaker 1: And they help it bond and open the oil.
Speaker 3: And then I put water in there.
Speaker 1: No, no, just let the oil cool down on the stove. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and get a pick, let the pin cool down for
Speaker 1: a while.
Speaker 4: Then get a paper towel and wipe down the pin
Speaker 4: to get a lot much to get that way, and
Speaker 4: put that in the garbage, which is a better way
Speaker 4: of disposing it than putting it down your drain. Then
Speaker 4: you can rinse off the rest with the degreaser in
Speaker 4: the water in the city.
Speaker 1: Have you ever poured hot oil down the toilet? Why
Speaker 1: would oil be near the toilet? I don't know, because
Speaker 1: like pouring cooking oil down your sink is very bad
Speaker 1: for those pipes, and you've clogged a lot of toilets.
Speaker 1: So I just assumed no I ever even cooking to know.
Speaker 2: OK.
Speaker 5: So wait, so, so you don't pour oil down the
Speaker 5: drain because it clogs pipes.
Speaker 1: Yes, very very bad for pipes.
Speaker 3: And DRAINO doesn't it'll do a little bit.
Speaker 2: But you don't. You don't.
Speaker 1: You don't in the first place. Yeah, but a plumber
Speaker 1: could fix it, right, It could be them.
Speaker 3: You were just worried about ten hours with the spare
Speaker 3: five as much. Five food has a lot of money thing.
Speaker 1: It's a food.
Speaker 3: It was your side dish.
Speaker 7: Yeah, we gotta get a veggie on there, you don't,
Speaker 7: you know normally, Sure, that's great, that's admirable. But if
Speaker 7: the options are no veggie or veggie with a greaser,
Speaker 7: I think you could do no veggie for one day.
Speaker 5: By the way, I'm on two weeks of eating healthy now.
Speaker 5: Significant changes to my poop. Yeah, Like it's just like
Speaker 5: a two foot long, unbroken, just flat Microsoft paint, brown
Speaker 5: film color.
Speaker 1: It is just fucking wow.
Speaker 3: Seriously, I was looking at it today, like an hour
Speaker 3: ago to like, goddamn, that's.
Speaker 5: The turdet, double tapered. No, just it's literally it was
Speaker 5: like two feet long. It was like I could see
Speaker 5: maybe a foot and two inches and it kept going
Speaker 5: down indefinitely.
Speaker 1: Fight to fuck again.
Speaker 3: We gotta talking about video games?
Speaker 1: Crazy? How good my poop is? You know, I I
Speaker 1: here's a little hitside baseball into my my week. I
Speaker 1: start the Mondays. You know, we have a lot of
Speaker 1: setup for the week, and my my weekly therapy appointment
Speaker 1: is Monday afternoon, and the commonality and the anchor is,
Speaker 1: I'll tell her. It's like, hey, you know, like there's
Speaker 1: a lot of stuff going wrong in my life and
Speaker 1: I'm trying to improve. But at least I'm very thankful
Speaker 1: for my coworkers because they act as anchors and are
Speaker 1: a good time. And now I think I'm regretting that
Speaker 1: I'm telling you about how healthy I am. You regret that, No,
Speaker 1: I am very picture tomorrow, you know, he might that's
Speaker 1: the won't. I won't do that. That's beyond me.
Speaker 3: I've never taken a picture by poop.
Speaker 1: Just send me, uh, like a symbol that you think
Speaker 1: it looks like? Does it look like an amper sand
Speaker 1: an at sign.
Speaker 2: Dot com?
Speaker 1: Still a thing? It's no, I don't know.
Speaker 5: It's like if you took like five things of silly
Speaker 5: putty together and he went like this until it was
Speaker 5: like all like really just one long w and then
Speaker 5: he sneaked it down. And are you eating like asparagus
Speaker 5: Russells Sprout's big old salads.
Speaker 2: I'm making it just like your body got fiber for
Speaker 2: the first time ever.
Speaker 3: It's crazy. I have like energy, I feel alive.
Speaker 1: Imagine if this is someone's first podcast, you do have
Speaker 1: a lot of energy.
Speaker 4: You voluntarily wanted to jump like Graymisteria the beginning to
Speaker 4: dazz and I'm not sure.
Speaker 1: Great working out like seven in the morning. Hell yeah,
Speaker 1: Oh that sounds awful. Oh it's awesome. Okay, all right, Dan,
Speaker 1: you're you're working at a lot of things. You're revisiting stuff,
Speaker 1: you're revisiting eating good, but you've also been revisiting Red
Speaker 1: Dead Redemption two. Then I ze to see how that
Speaker 1: has been going.
Speaker 5: And I can't remember if I I think I brought
Speaker 5: it up on this site, brought it up, but just
Speaker 5: started maybe not on here. Okay, that's right, And like, okay,
Speaker 5: so Mike, you're a pro Red Dead two guy.
Speaker 3: I'm proud.
Speaker 5: Okay, Jan generally pro. No, No, Jan doesn't like it. Okay,
Speaker 5: I'm exact. I'm in the same campus Grub. Okay, so me,
Speaker 5: Jan and Grub, I think we're all very much in
Speaker 5: the same camp with the Red Dead two. This has
Speaker 5: been very interesting. And I'm not gonna go and say
Speaker 5: like all of a sudden, no, guys, it's the best
Speaker 5: game ever.
Speaker 3: It's not that.
Speaker 5: And the things that frustrated me before are still at
Speaker 5: times frustrating me. But I will say, coming to it
Speaker 5: now so much further past the release with the knowledge
Speaker 5: of what to expect, because like I'm remembering the first
Speaker 5: time I walked into a place and I had to
Speaker 5: like search drawers and I was like, what the fuck?
Speaker 3: Why is he moving so slow?
Speaker 5: I am expecting it this time, and that has helped
Speaker 5: a lot, and I'm learning like, Okay, when I'm on
Speaker 5: a mission, I'm just going to follow this guy and
Speaker 5: talk to him while we're on a horse, you know,
Speaker 5: like that, I'm not going to go off and try
Speaker 5: to do my hunts right now, I like section off
Speaker 5: like it's story time, it is hunting time. It's let's
Speaker 5: just ride my horse east and see what happens time.
Speaker 5: And there are things that I've been doing that have
Speaker 5: been helping in terms of like, so first person mode,
Speaker 5: it's good for the combat. Yeah, it's also I don't
Speaker 5: like it as much on the horse like traversing.
Speaker 3: Because it's just the field of view. I've tried bring
Speaker 3: out the field of view whatever.
Speaker 5: Anyway, walking through towns is the biggest change I've noticed
Speaker 5: because if you're just walking out around town third person,
Speaker 5: he kind of just ambles. He just kind of like
Speaker 5: saunters around. It's very very slow when you go into
Speaker 5: first person. I've gone back and forth to kind of
Speaker 5: test this. He moves so much faster. So just walking
Speaker 5: from the doctor to the saloon to the hotel or whatever,
Speaker 5: it's just so much faster. And then once you're in there,
Speaker 5: first of all all the details and everything of all
Speaker 5: these things they've put all over the walls and drawers
Speaker 5: and stuff.
Speaker 1: It looks much better.
Speaker 5: But it just seems it feels better than just watching
Speaker 5: a guy from third person beams, you know.
Speaker 3: So yeah, I've been switching back.
Speaker 5: And forth a lot from first and third person and
Speaker 5: that has helped a lot. And god damn if it
Speaker 5: doesn't run great on PC. I mean just these like
Speaker 5: vistas and and just the weather effects and everything, and like,
Speaker 5: I'm liking the story I'm playing. I played the first
Speaker 5: time around as like I'm gonna be root and tooting,
Speaker 5: crazy cowboy guy and aha, you look at me, weird,
Speaker 5: I'm shooting you in the head. You know, now that
Speaker 5: I played through it in its entirety the first time,
Speaker 5: and now that I kind of know who ARTHURM.
Speaker 3: Morgan as a character is.
Speaker 5: I'm playing it more as and like he's a guy
Speaker 5: who's done some bad things and he's reflective about it,
Speaker 5: but he's at his heart probably a good person, you know.
Speaker 3: So I'm playing him that way and that's been.
Speaker 5: More rewarding from a story perspective, and so Grub I
Speaker 5: know you specifically, that's the thing that drove you nuts.
Speaker 3: It's like Rockstar was so precious about like, no, you're
Speaker 3: playing our game r away.
Speaker 1: You have to experience it our away.
Speaker 5: And that does happen from like the lack of open
Speaker 5: world stuff when you're on a mission or to like,
Speaker 5: you know, you don't have a lot of freedom to
Speaker 5: make Arthur you're Arthur. You know, it's pretty much like
Speaker 5: Arthur is Arthur, and if you play him weird, it's
Speaker 5: just gonna feel you know, not, it's not gonna feel right,
Speaker 5: you know. So just going into it now with the
Speaker 5: knowledge of my first time, I am definitely enjoying it.
Speaker 5: Like I am way way like there were things I
Speaker 5: appreciated about it the first time around, but I will
Speaker 5: say like now I am very excited. Like if I
Speaker 5: have a night where I don't have anything planned and
Speaker 5: it's like all right, I'm just gonna you know, have
Speaker 5: a drink and sit down and just sink into this
Speaker 5: world for four or five hours and just you know,
Speaker 5: ride my horse off in a direction and see what happens,
Speaker 5: and like, oh, the lady's horse fell on her and
Speaker 5: she needs help, and like instead of being asshole Arthur
Speaker 5: like I was the first time, like oh yeah, come on,
Speaker 5: I'll give you right home, and you don't have a
Speaker 5: whole talk with her and everything, and it's it is
Speaker 5: a peaceful at times. It's a cool game. It's it's
Speaker 5: a really cool game. I think I can definitely.
Speaker 4: See that like being a problem with the games that
Speaker 4: like I kind of approach it more like, yeah, I'm
Speaker 4: like this is a cowboy play and I'm playing the
Speaker 4: part of the cowboy, and yeah, it does really feel
Speaker 4: like there is one way to play Arthur that does
Speaker 4: make sense, because yeah, I definitely would have had a
Speaker 4: much worse time with the game if I was doing
Speaker 4: the more kind of evil cowboy thing there. It doesn't
Speaker 4: really tie in to the story as well. It's a
Speaker 4: lot of the side stuff doesn't really make as much
Speaker 4: sense with that kind of character archetype. So you know it,
Speaker 4: it's like you have those options there and you want
Speaker 4: to explore them, but does kind of feel like maybe
Speaker 4: you're doing something wrong if.
Speaker 3: You play it evil cowboy.
Speaker 1: Style, Dan, I forget, where did you land with Cyberpunk?
Speaker 1: I like it.
Speaker 5: I liked it at the beginning because I really wasn't
Speaker 5: having the technical issues that a lot of people were having.
Speaker 5: But and I came back to it with Phantom Liberty
Speaker 5: and I liked it more like a lot of the
Speaker 5: additions and stuff they did there, But I didn't beat it,
Speaker 5: So I'm not going to say I love it, but
Speaker 5: like I definitely didn't have a like, oh, I'm you know,
Speaker 5: this is repulsing to me, you know, like I like
Speaker 5: a lot of us did with Red Dead the first time.
Speaker 1: Right, maybe I'll try it out first person then oh yeah,
Speaker 1: that stuff definitely helps I think you I mean, I
Speaker 1: think it's it.
Speaker 2: Really is a matter of there's people on one side
Speaker 2: who are like I am happy to get myself over
Speaker 2: to what this game is. I like this character, or
Speaker 2: I like what they're going to do with this character,
Speaker 2: or I am interested in this character, so I want
Speaker 2: to play the way I think this character should play.
Speaker 2: And if you do that, I think this game is
Speaker 2: h I think it's why a lot of people and
Speaker 2: I'm saying no, this is a masterpiece because they wanted
Speaker 2: that experience if you want anything else, and this is
Speaker 2: for me. The big problem is just like everything in
Speaker 2: the world suggests more there's a possibility here, there's something
Speaker 2: you can do, and any time you try to engage
Speaker 2: with that, I was rebuffed. Now I still found times
Speaker 2: where it's like, yeah, this world is amazing, and some
Speaker 2: of the stuff where it did kind of where we
Speaker 2: got simpatico and we did match up me and the
Speaker 2: game and you know, the developers. It was like there
Speaker 2: were moments that were pretty amazing. Like I talked about
Speaker 2: getting on the train and stuff like that. It didn't
Speaker 2: end in any interesting way, but just the process of
Speaker 2: like catching up to this train and go on there
Speaker 2: and robbing everybody that stuff, that that thing worked. That
Speaker 2: was cool.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 5: And the thing is it's just knowing when you can
Speaker 5: engage with the world where it's like if you're on
Speaker 5: a story mission and you and Dutch or riding your horses,
Speaker 5: just ride your horse, like turn on the cinematic camera,
Speaker 5: hold in a and just hear it out.
Speaker 1: Do the thing.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a scene basically.
Speaker 5: And then when it's open, like like I will just
Speaker 5: build in those times where it's like I'm just exploring here,
Speaker 5: and then some of the side stuff is super fun,
Speaker 5: like it's scripted stuff, but like the bounties, like one
Speaker 5: of them was like, Okay, here's this woman who's been
Speaker 5: married six times and never divorced. Meeting she's definitely been
Speaker 5: like killing her husband's and like luring these guys in,
Speaker 5: robbing them and killing them. And it's like, Okay, we
Speaker 5: last saw her by this river, and it's just really
Speaker 5: fun to like pull up on your horse, you okay, yep,
Speaker 5: I see her over there. She's like underneath an on
Speaker 5: it like a rock onning with a dude. And this
Speaker 5: dude looks like he's just like really like trying to
Speaker 5: do impress her and stuff and just walking up and
Speaker 5: being like all right, I'm gonna try to defuse the situation,
Speaker 5: just like don't have a gun out, just gonna try
Speaker 5: to talk to him and bring this lady in. And
Speaker 5: this dude who's like trying to like impress the girl
Speaker 5: like stays, oh what are you doing, sir, No, we'll
Speaker 5: get away from us, like, don't make me pull the
Speaker 5: gun out, and he's like he's approaching me and tired,
Speaker 5: I'm hitting the defuse button and the Earth's like, hey man,
Speaker 5: we don't need to get violent here. And the guy
Speaker 5: pulls out a gun. All right, motherfucker, just pull out
Speaker 5: a gun. Just blow his fucking head off. Last of
Speaker 5: the lady'd take her to jail. It's just like, didn't
Speaker 5: have to be this way. Like it's just those fun
Speaker 5: little like yeah, they're scripted to be a certain way,
Speaker 5: but they're still fun to play out and be like,
Speaker 5: let me see if we can handle this peacefully, you know. Yeah.
Speaker 2: I think in the review period, my one of the
Speaker 2: things that did get to me was like people would
Speaker 2: talk about their emergent stories and everyone had the same
Speaker 2: exact emergent stories. I think, oh, this is all just
Speaker 2: part of the scripture, and you know, that's fine. I
Speaker 2: think it's there's nothing really wrong with that. It's just
Speaker 2: not what I want from that game. In some of
Speaker 2: the building, when they're spending all this money to make
Speaker 2: this amazing world, it's not what I want.
Speaker 5: But some of those emergent stories are like, you know,
Speaker 5: these scripted things like and everyone has the same one,
Speaker 5: but there are actual emergent stories that come out of
Speaker 5: it where it's just like I needed another dollar twelve
Speaker 5: or whatever to clear my bounty. And then it's like
Speaker 5: I just decided to like wander into town at night
Speaker 5: and be all right, let me see if I win
Speaker 5: some money in a poker game, or let me see,
Speaker 5: like or I go into a hotel and I'm like
Speaker 5: walking room to room searching drawers and stuff. Nope, there's
Speaker 5: a guy in here, and I'll just rob this one
Speaker 5: dude here real quick. And shit, they only had seventy cents. Alright,
Speaker 5: I'll go down and I'll play poker or whatever, you know, Like, uh.
Speaker 3: It's fun to play red I know it's pretty cool.
Speaker 1: Yeah, maybe I gotta take the Brad Shoemaker approach because
Speaker 1: the thing that stuck out to me when we chatted
Speaker 1: about it, Red Dead Redemption two for that game of
Speaker 1: the Year is that Brad kind of treated it like
Speaker 1: his outdoor sabbatical and spending a lot of time outdoors
Speaker 1: just camping and hunting. Yeah, maybe I got to do that. Well.
Speaker 5: That's the thing too, is like I was so mad
Speaker 5: the first time when it's like I just went in too,
Speaker 5: like I was playing it like I an old video
Speaker 5: game where it's like, oh, I hit this button to
Speaker 5: use my health thing, and Max Spain just eats the
Speaker 5: pills and his health is better. You know, it's like
Speaker 5: a hit l one to get health or whatever. That's
Speaker 5: not this game at all. So it's a lot of
Speaker 5: stuff where it's like, Okay, well, now's the time I'm
Speaker 5: gonna build a little fire here. You know, I'm gonna like,
Speaker 5: I got some venison, I got some meat. Now we're
Speaker 5: gonna cook some stuff here, Like I'll eat one for
Speaker 5: now and I'll store some for later. And I need
Speaker 5: this stuff, and like, it's much more deliberate. It is
Speaker 5: a very deliberate game, and I'm meeting it on those
Speaker 5: terms now, and it is much more rewarding that way.
Speaker 1: What is the state of Red Dead Redemption two online?
Speaker 3: I've never played it online.
Speaker 1: I remember I booted that. Yeah, maybe we should we
Speaker 1: should do that. I booted it up during lockdown to
Speaker 1: play with Vinie and Abbey. Then I got on my horse.
Speaker 1: Then Vinie immediately shot me in the head.
Speaker 2: Man, I think I remember that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it made me not want to play the game anymore.
Speaker 5: Okay, okay, all right, I would encourage if you guys
Speaker 5: are like I picked it because there's not a lot
Speaker 5: right now coming out that I find we had kind
Speaker 5: of a break from travel and new releases and stuff,
Speaker 5: and it's like, you know what, I've been mean to
Speaker 5: do this for a while.
Speaker 3: Now's the time, and I'm I'm happy I'm doing it
Speaker 3: for sure.
Speaker 1: I'm proud of you, Dan, I'm proud that you are.
Speaker 1: You were, You're like Allegory of the Cave, your your
Speaker 1: Plato of the Cave. Of course, yes, exactly, you're emerging
Speaker 1: from the cave to tell us about the wonders of
Speaker 1: a red Dead redemption. They're just shadows.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yes, yes, But Jeff Grub, Dylan Plato.
Speaker 2: He's trying to do a segue, Dan, jesus man, I'm
Speaker 2: impressing you about thank you, thank you, thank you. Rank Yeah.
Speaker 1: Anyway, Jeff Grub is in a cave. Caves of cud.
Speaker 2: Uh yeah, the exact opposite of Red Dead Redemption too.
Speaker 2: It really couldn't be the more more of the opposite.
Speaker 2: This is all systems. Uh So. I don't know how
Speaker 2: much people know about this game.
Speaker 3: It is.
Speaker 2: You just kind of ASKI graphics. It simulates an entire world.
Speaker 2: When you started up, it's like, hey, we're going to
Speaker 2: simulate the history of everything that has ever happened up
Speaker 2: to this point. Uh, and then you were going to
Speaker 2: jump in at that at this point, and then you'll
Speaker 2: be able to interact with all that and all that
Speaker 2: stuff will be meaningful. And I am just kind of
Speaker 2: getting the hang of how this game works. It was
Speaker 2: a lot for me at the start. I don't know
Speaker 2: if it'd be a lot for most people, but for me,
Speaker 2: like there's so many different icons on the screen and
Speaker 2: information that it definitely was like, oh, this is a
Speaker 2: lot to process, and it's hard for me to be like, here,
Speaker 2: I'll just focus on what's important because everything in my
Speaker 2: mind is just a mush when it's like that. So
Speaker 2: kind of like went through the tutorial, was able to
Speaker 2: kind of get a few little tidbits, and I kind
Speaker 2: of liked that the tutorial was short and sweet and
Speaker 2: they're like listen, leveling and quest all this other stuff.
Speaker 2: We're gonna let you figure that out. I'm like, okay, cool,
Speaker 2: this is a good balance of give me some basic
Speaker 2: information about how to move my character around the world,
Speaker 2: how to interact with things. It's you know, you're moving
Speaker 2: like one space at a time, and every time you move,
Speaker 2: the state of the world changes. It's like that, but
Speaker 2: now I still have room to play around and figure
Speaker 2: out exactly how everything works. And I'm on my first
Speaker 2: quest and I think I am into it. It has
Speaker 2: this sense of like, oh, I could just go in
Speaker 2: any direction and discover things in any way I want,
Speaker 2: and that is of course very exciting to me. And
Speaker 2: it also feels like it's not necessarily like Dwarf Fortress,
Speaker 2: which is as a similar vibe. It's also an ASCI game,
Speaker 2: but that's like there is a hill to climb to
Speaker 2: get on the other side of like just learning how
Speaker 2: to operate that game. This one, it's like, no, you're
Speaker 2: just moving a little character around a world and they
Speaker 2: are going to go have conversations with people who are
Speaker 2: either going to give them quests or might have some
Speaker 2: items to buy. They'll have some fun stuff to say
Speaker 2: about the state of their village or whatever, and then
Speaker 2: you'll move on. And then when you have like relationships
Speaker 2: with those people, when you talk to them, you say, hey,
Speaker 2: let's do the water ritual. I have some water, I
Speaker 2: brought you water. Let's have this moment where I'm connecting
Speaker 2: with you immediately, It's like Okay, you've improved your status
Speaker 2: with this village, but because another village hates this village,
Speaker 2: they've heard the tale of what you've done here and
Speaker 2: now they hate you. So every action has a reaction
Speaker 2: and that is very enticing to me. So I can
Speaker 2: see why so many people are into this game. I'm
Speaker 2: playing on Steam Deck works really well with a controller,
Speaker 2: so I'm digging its vibes so far.
Speaker 1: We always talked about trying to get into Dwarf Fortress grub,
Speaker 1: but I am also interested about Caves of Cud. Maybe
Speaker 1: we should check it out on the site.
Speaker 2: Yeah, let's let's do that, because I'm kind of, like
Speaker 2: I said, I'm getting the hang of it, and as
Speaker 2: I get more of the hang of it, might be
Speaker 2: like I might come in with some questions for the like,
Speaker 2: and maybe check can help out and help us figure
Speaker 2: some stuff out there. Apparently Dwarf Fortress is getting in
Speaker 2: adventure mode. That's pretty neat, so maybe similar to this.
Speaker 3: Okay, just looking at screenshots of this game is kind
Speaker 3: of intimidating, but I.
Speaker 2: Right see the appeal right exactly. And again, for me,
Speaker 2: the processing stuff of just trying to figure out what
Speaker 2: I need to be paying attention to here. It made
Speaker 2: me feel tired. It was like, oh my god, I
Speaker 2: need to go take a nap after looking at the
Speaker 2: screen for five minutes. But you get over that pretty
Speaker 2: quick because it's underneath it's still just an adventure video game.
Speaker 2: You're just having a little guy go into a world.
Speaker 2: It's basically you know, you know, there's a a couple
Speaker 2: of buckets filled and like one bucket is graphics, the
Speaker 2: other button is like interactive world ability, and in Skyrim
Speaker 2: it's pretty even, right, and then you like, what if
Speaker 2: you took away all the graphics, you could fill up
Speaker 2: that bucket where everything in the world is interactive and
Speaker 2: is something you can mess around with. Well, they just
Speaker 2: filled that bucket up. So yes, that sounds like my jam.
Speaker 1: All right, all right, yeah, I saw Caves have kind
Speaker 1: of made I believe Nikki's top ten list made ben
Speaker 1: Packs top ten games of last year as well.
Speaker 2: A lot of people were talking about at the end
Speaker 2: of the year, so I was excited to check it out.
Speaker 1: Speaking about buckets and a game check that we're checking
Speaker 1: out that may not necessarily be our jam or my jam.
Speaker 1: I've been checking out Airborne Empire, which is a city
Speaker 1: builder game, and I'm not normally the type to play
Speaker 1: any of those because the management part stresses me the
Speaker 1: fuck out. But this one is a city builder game,
Speaker 1: but instead of building a city, you were building a
Speaker 1: floating city, so you were building like an airship city.
Speaker 1: And it's pretty neat, it's very cozy, it's cute. This
Speaker 1: is just a bunch of birds birding around. And you
Speaker 1: initially start with your little town center, and from there
Speaker 1: you build out with these little pathways, and then you'll
Speaker 1: you'll build like you're building that gets uh that gathers resources.
Speaker 1: Another one that researches for future developments and improvements. But
Speaker 1: the fun thing is you one hundred have.
Speaker 8: To worry about the weight of your structure and tilt
Speaker 8: so and the tilt all factors in from the very
Speaker 8: center of your ship, your town center.
Speaker 1: So is.
Speaker 2: It just like a meter that's filling up or something
Speaker 2: like that. I guess maybe it's hard to see the difference.
Speaker 1: It's it's a little hard to tell the difference because
Speaker 1: I initially started building to the right of my uh
Speaker 1: town town center, and the game immediately told me, it's like,
Speaker 1: you're fucking up, dude. You're fucking up disassemble this now.
Speaker 1: And the interesting thing because you are in airship is
Speaker 1: your your settlement is not static. So if you need
Speaker 1: to go gather up more resources like trees, fish for food,
Speaker 1: or visit a small neighboring town to recruit more townsfolk,
Speaker 1: you can just go over there. And if there's like
Speaker 1: a bunch of trees or resources on one part of
Speaker 1: the hub world map and it's taking too long for
Speaker 1: the resources to get back to you, you can just
Speaker 1: go over there. Just go over there, hang out. It's interesting.
Speaker 1: Still very early on in the game, so my little
Speaker 1: hub city world is fairly small, but I've already run
Speaker 1: into Shananigan's and I kind of like a game like
Speaker 1: this kind of just mostly dumping me in because out
Speaker 1: of nowhere, I'd completely the first couple of quests. I'm like, okay, cool,
Speaker 1: you need some iron and some trees to help rebuild
Speaker 1: your city. That's chill. I'm just gonna go gather some
Speaker 1: iron here and research some stuff. And then the game
Speaker 1: just has a giant flashmar of like, hey, there's pirates coming.
Speaker 9: Wash out, you got pirates coming, And then I'm thinking, like,
Speaker 9: what the fuck there's combat in this game. I thought
Speaker 9: this was just cozy, and then they they attacked my
Speaker 9: my airship, and then one reason my people died and
Speaker 9: I'm like, I feel so sad, but then we can rebuild.
Speaker 1: We'll rebuild this ship. So now I'm curious about about
Speaker 1: these city builders y'all.
Speaker 2: Yeah, city builders are great, like some city for Super Nintendo.
Speaker 1: I feel like, all all these roads of wanting to
Speaker 1: build and farm, it's just telling me to go to
Speaker 1: Stardo eventually. Have you never done never done Stardo?
Speaker 2: That's why we should do multiplayer, because that's Stardo multiplayer
Speaker 2: thing happened. We should do that.
Speaker 5: I have never done Stardoo multiplayer, and you know how
Speaker 5: much I love Stardu.
Speaker 3: I yes, that'd be fantastic to do. Like we all
Speaker 3: have a farm together, we all have our roles and stuff.
Speaker 2: I would love that and it would be fun because
Speaker 2: I have I want to like go off on my
Speaker 2: own and do my little stuff, like I'll just make
Speaker 2: the beer guys. Just let me make the beer and
Speaker 2: everyone else handle everything. Okay, Well help me with the
Speaker 2: We'll be the beer guys, will be the beer guys brewery.
Speaker 3: And then we'll get rich and we'll exactly yeah, I'll
Speaker 3: be the taster in there.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, delous I played the prequel to this game,
Speaker 4: Airborne Kingdom, which was Yeah. I'm kind of curious now
Speaker 4: what the differences are exactly between that and this, because
Speaker 4: just looking at this very similar, well, yes, empires are
Speaker 4: bigger than kingdoms usually, but it still looks like you
Speaker 4: have like the one city.
Speaker 1: Yeah right, yeah, yeah, yeah. Interesting looking at screenshots for
Speaker 1: Airborne Kingdom, Airborne Empire definitely seems more of a cozy game.
Speaker 4: Yeah, Kingdom was definitely a bit more I don't know. Maggie, sure, sure,
Speaker 4: Maggie was pretty maggy.
Speaker 3: Stay away from l A on the fourteenth, it's going
Speaker 3: to be a bit maggy.
Speaker 1: Jesus, Sorry, sorry, I hope we're speaking about l A.
Speaker 1: I hope all of our friends in LA are doing
Speaker 1: as okay as they can. Mike Minatti, what is Sonic Galactic?
Speaker 4: Sonicalactic is a new fan made two D sonic game
Speaker 4: kind of similar to Sonic Mating in a lot of ways.
Speaker 4: It's like what if what if Sega made a two
Speaker 4: D sonic game for the Saturn?
Speaker 3: What would that have looked like? But you know, it's still.
Speaker 4: Pixel based in a lot of ways, but there's a
Speaker 4: lot of animation frames, there's some three D elements, especially
Speaker 4: in the bonus stages, and there's lots of parallax scrolling
Speaker 4: in other effects.
Speaker 3: But there's just a demo out right now with a
Speaker 3: few of the levels. There's five playable characters like Sonic,
Speaker 3: Tails and Knuckles sure, also Fang the sniper moving, a
Speaker 3: big character who's shown up before. And they also have
Speaker 3: an o c here some a mole kind of guy,
Speaker 3: but not Monty More I forget his name, but Sonic
Speaker 3: can look ridiculous sometimes this guy looks all right, doesn't
Speaker 3: doesn't seem too bad, but just as a fan game,
Speaker 3: really spiffy, like even the UI the start men use
Speaker 3: it all looks super professional.
Speaker 4: This was actually a product, at least by Sega. Nobody
Speaker 4: would bat an eye and I love Sonic Mania. But
Speaker 4: the neat thing here is that these are all original
Speaker 4: zones and they just they still feel great. They do
Speaker 4: that thing that so many did.
Speaker 3: I like, where like Zone two kind of is visually
Speaker 3: distinct from Zone one, even though it's at that same
Speaker 3: overall level. There's fun boss fights. It's just overall very impressive.
Speaker 4: They even give Sonic this neat move but you know
Speaker 4: a Sonic Mania, you can like hold down the jump
Speaker 4: once you do that spin dash immediately when you touch
Speaker 4: the ground. Well, now you could do that on walls,
Speaker 4: so you can kind of do like all running like
Speaker 4: vertical like spin dashing as Sonic and then jump off
Speaker 4: it for little extra movement stuff like I was playing
Speaker 4: as Fang and Fang basically has a double jump. When
Speaker 4: he does the double jump, he shoots his little blake
Speaker 4: pellet gun thing below him. So that's that was pretty
Speaker 4: nifty for boss fights and some other enemies, and of
Speaker 4: course for the movement. But yeah, if you love Sonic
Speaker 4: Mania and we're disappointed by Sonic Superstars not being that,
Speaker 4: I would check this out for sure. It's again, it's
Speaker 4: got that free demo right now, it's Sonic Galactic Mike.
Speaker 5: I tuned into to you playing that for a bit
Speaker 5: and I was immediately sold on the look.
Speaker 1: It looked awesome.
Speaker 5: At first, I was like, oh, is this like a
Speaker 5: GBA thing it's going for? But then Saturn made sense
Speaker 5: and then you got to the bonus zone and it's like, oh,
Speaker 5: this is monkey ball. If it was like Sonic on
Speaker 5: the Saturn doing monkey BLL and it's like, oh, that looks
Speaker 5: fantastic to me.
Speaker 4: So yeah, it seems like they killed it. Yeah, this
Speaker 4: was cool to Sega for like being okay with the games.
Speaker 4: They're so not Nintendo in that way, and I really
Speaker 4: respect that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I sec it's pretty cool.
Speaker 2: Huh.
Speaker 1: Well talking about Sonic Galactic, Jeff Grubb, you have been
Speaker 1: in the stars yourself with Star Wars Squadrons. G good
Speaker 1: at this.
Speaker 2: Yes, I've been in a weird place with the try
Speaker 2: and like startup games. I'm having a hard time focusing,
Speaker 2: so I'm like looking for something smaller. But I'm also
Speaker 2: like not in the mood for like to start out
Speaker 2: mouth Washing, because that seems like a game I should
Speaker 2: be reverent of when I started, Like I should have
Speaker 2: like some ability to pay attention to what's going on.
Speaker 2: So like when't I like just turn on the Steam
Speaker 2: deck and find some games. I installed it on a
Speaker 2: whim whatever and and maybe finish something else in the meantime.
Speaker 2: And so I went back to Star Wars Squadrons, which
Speaker 2: had turned out I had not gotten nearly as far
Speaker 2: and as I as I had remembered.
Speaker 1: And I you know, it's it's okay.
Speaker 2: It's only an okay game. I think the basic premise
Speaker 2: of here's how we're gonna make uh this interesting, this
Speaker 2: combat interesting, which would it would? Which was you're gonna
Speaker 2: have management over your energy distribution on the ships, So
Speaker 2: at any time, you can press the dpad to send
Speaker 2: more power to your weapons, to your to your shields,
Speaker 2: or to your engines, and then if you hit down
Speaker 2: on the dpad, you'll have even distribution across everything. Stuff
Speaker 2: we've seen before. They're like, oh, let's let's bring this
Speaker 2: in here and and and uh and and see if
Speaker 2: we can make this game work with that. And it's okay.
Speaker 2: But it's like, I think maybe the feedback is a
Speaker 2: little bit it's a little bit difficult to tell, like
Speaker 2: is this helping me at this in this moment? What
Speaker 2: is the difference in my ship? Sure, I feel faster
Speaker 2: when I put more energy in my engines, yeah, but
Speaker 2: other than that, like I don't really feel anything when
Speaker 2: I send it to the shields or even to the weapons.
Speaker 2: So it's you know that that basic premise already is
Speaker 2: a little bit fizzling out for me. And then it's
Speaker 2: just you know, dog fighting. It's just flying around shooting
Speaker 2: other ships down, and occasionally we will have a bigger
Speaker 2: ship come through, and you're still gonna have to take
Speaker 2: out the tie fighters first before you go on to
Speaker 2: take on the bigger ship so that you don't get
Speaker 2: shot down from the side, and while you're actually focusing
Speaker 2: on the bigger ships and the Star warsness of it
Speaker 2: is also maybe a little underwhelming. It's it's just kind
Speaker 2: of like paint by numbers. It felt, you know, it
Speaker 2: feels very much like what this game is. EA had
Speaker 2: the Star Wars license. They wanted to get one more
Speaker 2: game out, so like, hey, can we do this this,
Speaker 2: or we can maybe make a smaller project for a
Speaker 2: lot less Money'll take a lot less time. Let's do
Speaker 2: that one. And that's one hundred sent what this is.
Speaker 2: And it feels like it all that's I think, it's
Speaker 2: you know, it's fine. It's not a bad game. It's
Speaker 2: just fine.
Speaker 5: I justtically remember my first experience with that because I
Speaker 5: was so excited when you know, I heard about it's like, oh,
Speaker 5: hell yeah, new Rogue Squadron and I downloaded.
Speaker 3: It when it came out, I was like, here we go,
Speaker 3: Rogue Squadrons.
Speaker 5: Back, baby, And there's like, right, away like press this,
Speaker 5: do yeah, redirect your energy toward was like, what the
Speaker 5: fuck is this? And I played like ten minutes. I
Speaker 5: was like, this is not Rogue Squadron at all. I
Speaker 5: don't know even beyond that, it doesn't have the juice
Speaker 5: of Rogue Squadron. Rogue Squadrons like here is an awesome
Speaker 5: new planet you're gonna like be flying over, and then
Speaker 5: when we.
Speaker 2: Do take you to space, it's gonna be in a
Speaker 2: cool nebula. A lot of this is just empty space,
Speaker 2: and early on.
Speaker 5: SIM it didn't feel like like this. Four games were
Speaker 5: just like, hey, these are just finding shooters.
Speaker 3: I think it was maybe trying to take more from
Speaker 3: those classic X Wings.
Speaker 2: I think it's trying to straddle the line.
Speaker 1: It was just never play those.
Speaker 3: I never did either, and people are very reverent towards those.
Speaker 4: Basically I completely missed out on and I Jeff, I
Speaker 4: don't know if you ever played like X Wing versus
Speaker 4: Tie Fighter.
Speaker 2: Not not in the day, And I've only tried it
Speaker 2: a couple of times and have not been able to
Speaker 2: click with it. So yeah, I also come from Rogue Squadron.
Speaker 2: That is my Star Wars flight Arcadie kind of game,
Speaker 2: and this is this is definitely not It's like it's
Speaker 2: taking sim elements and applying to that, and I think again,
Speaker 2: it just kind of feels mushy in the middle.
Speaker 4: You know how this game does rule though. If you
Speaker 4: play this game, and I'm not usually a VR guy,
Speaker 4: but this game with VR it was like a flight stick,
Speaker 4: then this game has lots of juice all of a such,
Speaker 4: I see that.
Speaker 2: I think that's kind of what I ended up deciding on.
Speaker 2: Mike was like, oh, I have the oculus where I
Speaker 2: could just stream that from Steam over to the headset.
Speaker 2: I will get the flight stick I have out that
Speaker 2: actually like looks kind of like the flight stick they're
Speaker 2: using in this X Wing anyhow, So I'm going to
Speaker 2: try that and then if that really sticks with me,
Speaker 2: maybe I'll play some more of this game.
Speaker 1: Well, Greby, you were talking about riding the lines while
Speaker 1: Mike Manatti is driving through all the lines in parking
Speaker 1: garage Riley Circuit.
Speaker 4: Yeah, somehow, randomly on my stream, I just mentioned how
Speaker 4: much I like parking garages, Like, I like the vibe,
Speaker 4: I like the asthetic of parking.
Speaker 2: The shadows of it and go to their car.
Speaker 1: There's something to them.
Speaker 4: I don't know, I feel cozy and a parking garage.
Speaker 1: This massive concrete structure.
Speaker 2: You know, it's after a sports the pog Slammer.
Speaker 3: Everybody go back to.
Speaker 4: Their cars and you're really like, oh, yeah, we got them,
Speaker 4: or everyone's like, oh, I believe this ship.
Speaker 3: The camaraderie is good in the parking garage. Just for
Speaker 3: giving that Seinfeld episode.
Speaker 4: No no, no, they hated it. They got lost for
Speaker 4: a while. So this is a racing game set in
Speaker 4: parking garages. Uh, And it's kind of rally style. It's
Speaker 4: very drift heavy in the drifting here, it's more Mario
Speaker 4: Kart than say Sega Rally. Right, you just push the button,
Speaker 4: you start drifting, you get the sparks, you let go,
Speaker 4: you get the boost. Neat things here once again very
Speaker 4: heavy Sega Saturn aesthetic and specifically that to the point
Speaker 4: where it's like we're not doing transparencies, we're doing dithering
Speaker 4: effects for that kind of thing, right, right, So so
Speaker 4: that looks fantastic and you know, I'm just a sucker
Speaker 4: for that blocky like we just learned how to you know,
Speaker 4: add textures to three D models. Isn't that cool? Kind
Speaker 4: of vibe but there is something about racing in these
Speaker 4: parking garages, right, You have a lot of tight turns,
Speaker 4: so the drifting is very responsive to get you through those.
Speaker 4: And also the parking garage levels are all based on
Speaker 4: like actual semi famous parking garages, like there's the Seattle
Speaker 4: Airport parking garage, there's the Mall of America parking garage.
Speaker 4: Dan I got very excited for that. I was like,
Speaker 4: can't took me here. What's a good one, right.
Speaker 2: The parking garage?
Speaker 10: Yeah, yeah, like some sometimes you know the level, like
Speaker 10: go outside for a bit, like like in the Minnesota level,
Speaker 10: I mean level you were you know, in the snow.
Speaker 4: For well, there's even some evolution stuff like on the
Speaker 4: one level, a lightning hit the power supply, so then
Speaker 4: the lights were off so we had to use our
Speaker 4: headlights to see kind of thing. And then maybe the
Speaker 4: best thing about the game a SCA soundtrack. Okay, okay,
Speaker 4: oh okay, Incredible Crisis. Yeah, it is a good sound
Speaker 4: it's great. It's like each track does have a different song,
Speaker 4: and they're like there's two tracks where suddenly there are
Speaker 4: like lyrics too, and then like we're really going hard
Speaker 4: on this one and I'm just totally vibing out to
Speaker 4: that stuff.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it felt really good to control.
Speaker 4: There were times where, you know, if you kind of
Speaker 4: like sequentially get your boosts, you start going like really fast,
Speaker 4: and sometimes it was like, Okay, now I'm out of
Speaker 4: control because again, these turns are really tight. And also
Speaker 4: there's ramps everywhere because it's a parking garage, and sometimes
Speaker 4: you just shoot off the ramp and out of the
Speaker 4: level and I'm like, well, what I have to go fast?
Speaker 4: Am I just boosting out the wrong time?
Speaker 1: Here?
Speaker 4: Might just be a skill issue on my But you know,
Speaker 4: as messing around with it for thirty minutes, seeing every.
Speaker 3: Track, racing through, I had a great time with this.
Speaker 3: It's very cheap. It's like ten books or something.
Speaker 2: This is the one when I was when I was
Speaker 2: in my Sega Rally moment last year where I was
Speaker 2: like really just kind of couldn't stop thinking about that game,
Speaker 2: and I was looking for a successor, and everyone kept
Speaker 2: giving suggestions, and then there was the Steam Next Best
Speaker 2: that had a bunch of them in there. This was
Speaker 2: one of them. Of all of the successors to that game,
Speaker 2: this is the one I thought was the most interesting
Speaker 2: because it wasn't trying to be exactly Sega Rally, and
Speaker 2: all the ones that were weren't as good as Sega Rally.
Speaker 2: But the real thing for this one was, Hey, maybe
Speaker 2: I would play this one, but I would kind of
Speaker 2: need my friends to be playing setting times that I
Speaker 2: could compete against.
Speaker 1: Mike.
Speaker 2: If I go in there start setting some times, would
Speaker 2: you like trying to beat mine or or do you
Speaker 2: not know?
Speaker 4: I think that'd be fun the whole way. The game
Speaker 4: works as very like ghost Base, because again, these courses
Speaker 4: are pretty tight, so you can't actually have like multiple
Speaker 4: real cars with physics and collision. Then see when you're
Speaker 4: doing the racist by yourself, you see like a gold ghosts,
Speaker 4: and that's like the time you have to beat to
Speaker 4: get first. There's a silver ghost, there's a brown goat,
Speaker 4: Brown's ghost, Browns bronze ghosts, Brown's ghosts. I'm just thinking
Speaker 4: about my terrible football team. But it also like makes
Speaker 4: what you do once you have your ghost there too, right,
Speaker 4: and that there are leaderboards just built in right away,
Speaker 4: So I think that'd be a lot of fun.
Speaker 5: Speaking of the leaderboards thing, I feel like I neglected
Speaker 5: to mention on this podcast that Grubb did confidently say
Speaker 5: at the end of twenty twenty four, the person who
Speaker 5: is at the top of the leaderboards on Astrobot.
Speaker 2: I think, I said the end of twenty twenty five.
Speaker 5: Now at some blue sky, I've seen the post. I
Speaker 5: beat you, I beat Manati, I beat Jesse Vittelli, I
Speaker 5: beat Kayla, I beat everyone. I destroyed every one of
Speaker 5: the Astrobot's feed run thing, and I also won Fantasy Critic.
Speaker 5: But uh, yeah, I just we just want to make
Speaker 5: sure it said on the Giant BombCast that I did
Speaker 5: officially yeah for real. When the astrobot later word, yeah, it.
Speaker 4: Was definitely because of persistence, because think everyone else kind
Speaker 4: of got busy and little like to be able to
Speaker 4: keep playing the speed like I just didn't play the
Speaker 4: last couple of ones. But sure, Dan, you did it.
Speaker 1: Thank you man.
Speaker 2: You did win, and I did so and I didn't.
Speaker 2: So I still intend to go back and do something
Speaker 2: about this, but you're right, it won't count at that point.
Speaker 5: And as we decided, now both of you have to
Speaker 5: play Drake in the ninety nine Dragons.
Speaker 2: That keep like that's gonna work.
Speaker 5: Yeah, okay, won something. I didn't win anything for Fantasy
Speaker 5: critic either want admiration.
Speaker 2: Should we should have something for the winner this time?
Speaker 2: We'll do the fantasy retroactive then moments now? Should we.
Speaker 1: Should we give Dan first pick? Then? Is that advantageous
Speaker 1: or should be the Is that advantageous? I don't know,
Speaker 1: Well maybe mathem.
Speaker 2: Mathematically and like traditional fantasy sports, it doesn't matter because
Speaker 2: you do the snake draft, but for this it seems
Speaker 2: like it might. I would say, if you won, you
Speaker 2: would go last, though, but uh uh yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 2: Since he didn't get since he didn't get a prize,
Speaker 2: maybe that does make sense.
Speaker 4: Just give him something else. Because I want to win fantasy.
Speaker 4: I don't want to give him another advantage at that.
Speaker 4: I'd rather just give him money than I would like
Speaker 4: the money.
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, okay, folks, I've been spending way too much
Speaker 1: time with Marvel Rivals. I oh my god, it's We're
Speaker 1: not even gonna have an extended segment about it, but
Speaker 1: it has taken over my life in such a terrible
Speaker 1: way where I feel the toxicity coming out of my
Speaker 1: veins because I've become the toxic gamer. And this is
Speaker 1: why I never got into Valorant. This is why I
Speaker 1: got out of league because I know the type of
Speaker 1: person I would become. That being said suet Storm great
Speaker 1: support character. Read Richard's great character. Just pretend he's a tank.
Speaker 1: I need. I need a cozy game to to cozy
Speaker 1: up to. And Dan, I think you might just put
Speaker 1: this back on my radar. I love this game and
Speaker 1: the microwavable pizza with the same name as well.
Speaker 5: Celest Yes, yeah, it's just another one that like I've
Speaker 5: kind of always meant to go back to and now
Speaker 5: that things are a bit quieter.
Speaker 2: Oh so you haven't played Celest like for real, for
Speaker 2: real before.
Speaker 5: I started it back in the day, And I don't.
Speaker 5: I didn't have like a real reason I quit it.
Speaker 5: I didn't hate it or anything. I just didn't keep going.
Speaker 5: And then, like I feel like the tone around that game,
Speaker 5: like people keep talking about being one of the best
Speaker 5: platformers ever.
Speaker 1: I saw you.
Speaker 5: When I was putting together like top one hundred lists
Speaker 5: the last twenty five years, people are like, oh, so
Speaker 5: less has got to be on there. So yeah, I've
Speaker 5: had numerous times over the year's been like I should
Speaker 5: go back to that, went back to it.
Speaker 3: It's a very good platformer. It's very very good.
Speaker 1: It is.
Speaker 5: It's one that is the right amount of challenging where
Speaker 5: it reminds me of some of those like really hard
Speaker 5: like Prince of Persia, the Crown Thing platformer, the really
Speaker 5: hard like optional platform things yep, and you know, really
Speaker 5: having to look at a screen and be like, all right,
Speaker 5: I've got one dash and then once I get over there,
Speaker 5: I'll recharge the dash, but then that's coming over here,
Speaker 5: like you have to think it through, and it's a
Speaker 5: screen by screen challenge with very generous checkpointings, so it's
Speaker 5: like you're never going back further just like where you
Speaker 5: were earlier in that screen, so you're gonna die hundreds
Speaker 5: and hundreds and hundreds of times. But I never felt
Speaker 5: too annoyed by it, and it's like I get back
Speaker 5: on the horse. There, great seam deck game. Obviously, music's fantastic.
Speaker 5: H Yeah, it's it's also one that like I can't
Speaker 5: even imagine going for one hundred percent completion, which I
Speaker 5: usually do, like you know, every Mario, I get all
Speaker 5: the green coins or bonus stars or whatever. This one,
Speaker 5: it's like I started being like I'm gonna get all
Speaker 5: these strawberries and then it's just like you get later
Speaker 5: on some of these rooms are like this is hard enough.
Speaker 5: I am not fucking dashing through nine sets of spikes
Speaker 5: and then you know, then I have to do the
Speaker 5: level after that, Like so uh yeah, it's it's very
Speaker 5: very challenging.
Speaker 1: Uh it's fantastical and.
Speaker 4: You want to like just play through the game because
Speaker 4: it does ramp up in a very neat way. Like, yeah,
Speaker 4: there's there's a lot there that you want to just see.
Speaker 4: The optional stuff is fun. There's all those B side
Speaker 4: and C side extra hard chancels. It's fun to try
Speaker 4: maybe a couple of those. I wouldn't expect you to
Speaker 4: do all of them, but it's neat to see just
Speaker 4: how crazy difficult can't get.
Speaker 5: Yeah, and there's like a whole like you know, old
Speaker 5: version of the game on the like this fake console,
Speaker 5: the Peak.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah yeah.
Speaker 3: So it's got all those challenges and stuff.
Speaker 5: Thematically, I think I thought it was just going to
Speaker 5: be all like, okay, snowy mountain challenges, but it's like, oh,
Speaker 5: now I'm in this hotel and I have to clear
Speaker 5: this clutter through platforming, and it's it's stayed interesting throughout.
Speaker 5: So there's one party that will relate to you pretty well.
Speaker 5: I don't know if you've got there yet, you know
Speaker 5: I'm talking about but yeah, you know there's interesting stuff
Speaker 5: going on the game. It's just fantastic poop.
Speaker 1: That's what.
Speaker 2: Really good long poops.
Speaker 1: Okaya, No, it's a it's it's a good game, like
Speaker 1: all those after all those strawberries. You know you're so regular?
Speaker 5: Yes, what am I going to do once I'm done
Speaker 5: with Celeste and Red Dead two and I've had the
Speaker 5: Desk tranding turn all these you know, what?
Speaker 3: Do I to play j RPG's or something.
Speaker 2: Got to apologize all the things you said about Links Awakening.
Speaker 3: And I played that several times.
Speaker 1: It's not greats.
Speaker 2: I need to watch you play Merror's Edge because I'm
Speaker 2: still so confused how you don't like mers Edge.
Speaker 3: It feels bad. It's the best feeling game ever.
Speaker 5: Okay, wait, we've talked about doing something possibly this week
Speaker 5: that would involve a competition. Can we have it so
Speaker 5: the winners get to pick a game that the loser
Speaker 5: has to The winner gets to pick the two losers
Speaker 5: games that they have to play to completion, not necessarily
Speaker 5: on stream.
Speaker 1: This it's just this feels like you're getting out of
Speaker 1: Blake Club.
Speaker 3: Trying to figure out it doesn't impact Blake Club at all.
Speaker 2: Okay, Okay, as song as there is no uh, you
Speaker 2: cannot say Drake in the ninety nine Nights even if
Speaker 2: it is off.
Speaker 1: No no, no, no no no.
Speaker 5: And and and for the record, it's not a play
Speaker 5: a bad game thing. It's play this game that you
Speaker 5: have not played that I think you would like.
Speaker 2: Is this not not to say that Higher Hustle wasn't
Speaker 2: a legitimate competition, But what are the rules in this
Speaker 2: thing that we're planning? Okay, we talk about Dan, talk
Speaker 2: about talk about it.
Speaker 1: Are we committing to it on Friday?
Speaker 2: We're committing.
Speaker 1: Let's come to it on Friday. It's Dan, Please.
Speaker 5: It's a Bowser's Hurry, which I believe is going to be.
Speaker 3: Is it me grebing Minatti competing?
Speaker 1: I think Sean might have had interest a long time ago.
Speaker 5: Okay, So yeah, three or four of us at the
Speaker 5: same time booting up Bowser's Fury, which I have not
Speaker 5: played since like the week came out.
Speaker 3: I beat it all in like two sittings. How about
Speaker 3: you guys?
Speaker 2: My kids have played it like two years ago, and
Speaker 2: I haven't touched it since Mike, Yeah, no, not since
Speaker 2: it came out and I reviewed it and I said,
Speaker 2: how many catchings were Intendo got? Mad?
Speaker 3: Well, there's one hundred, and I think we should have to.
Speaker 1: It's a race to.
Speaker 3: Get a hundred cat shines and one sitting between.
Speaker 1: Three or four of us.
Speaker 3: The race isn't to beat the game is to one
Speaker 3: hundred percent.
Speaker 2: I think it's what takes a lot longer.
Speaker 5: I think it was like five years to get five
Speaker 5: years five hours to get all of them.
Speaker 1: I think I think it's impitious.
Speaker 2: I think you just want to beat the game, right
Speaker 2: because you can. Yeah, we beat it in like three
Speaker 2: to five hours.
Speaker 5: Okay, yeah, Nick, you're saying five hours, Yeah, it's like
Speaker 5: five I remember.
Speaker 3: Doing it in two settings and it was like five
Speaker 3: hours to get all. Okay sure, And for the fucking record,
Speaker 3: right now, nobody will call me cheating here, bowser ambo valid,
Speaker 3: So get yourself a bowser ambo.
Speaker 1: No, what are you talking about? What are you talking
Speaker 1: about it?
Speaker 3: You know you don't have the right you know, the accessories.
Speaker 1: What one?
Speaker 3: What does it do?
Speaker 1: It? Wouldn't it just be easier to say it's not valid? Yes,
Speaker 1: so it's easy for me, Yes, it's not valid.
Speaker 5: The one thing that's annoying about that game is the
Speaker 5: fury bowser that pops up and fox everything up.
Speaker 1: This just makes me go back to be a fucking gamer.
Speaker 3: Go to a target and buy a fucking bowser mebo.
Speaker 2: They're not at target, they don't have that.
Speaker 5: You've got to get it from Amazon. Any bowser ambo
Speaker 5: will make fury bowsers show. How about this, how about
Speaker 5: we do a vote. Are the bowser ambos allowed? No
Speaker 5: Amazon Bowser Ambo.
Speaker 3: Even if you say it to me, I still don't
Speaker 3: think we should do it.
Speaker 2: That's the game. That's literally one of the hallmark mechanics
Speaker 2: of the game is Bowser gets mad and starts attacking
Speaker 2: you something. So wait some there's there's multiple cat shines
Speaker 2: you can only get while he's doing that.
Speaker 1: He goes away. It makes what happens when you use
Speaker 1: the ambo. It makes him go away. If he's just
Speaker 1: being just.
Speaker 2: Play the game.
Speaker 3: You can make him go away. You just get a
Speaker 3: cat shine. He goes away.
Speaker 5: All right, Fine, I was debating whether I should be
Speaker 5: a little stinker and just pull it out, and you know, like.
Speaker 2: Not doing that that would have sucked.
Speaker 3: So to be clear, we're beating the game. In three hours.
Speaker 4: We're not spending six hours of play the one hundred
Speaker 4: at the ends, like I don't know where my last
Speaker 4: one is.
Speaker 3: I got to go look at a guy beat Just
Speaker 3: beat the game.
Speaker 4: It's more fun if everyone figures out their own routs
Speaker 4: to figure out how to get the catchins that they
Speaker 4: need to get literally every cat shine.
Speaker 1: I thought we were in all of them. What do
Speaker 1: you think or not? You're not wrong.
Speaker 2: I think that, uh, it could be kind of a
Speaker 2: pain because yeah, we're like, we're gonna it's gonna turn
Speaker 2: into us like a hunt for the last three and
Speaker 2: that's gonna like lose a lot of momentum. I think.
Speaker 1: Sure.
Speaker 4: Also, I can't do something for six hours straight on
Speaker 4: the site thory my normal job.
Speaker 5: It's gonna be like, uh, when I wanted to do
Speaker 5: every Mario Kart race in one sitting and then you
Speaker 5: talk and you guys talked me down to just the
Speaker 5: Mario Kart eight ones and it still took like seven hours.
Speaker 1: Yes, and then we did a podcast in the middle
Speaker 1: of it.
Speaker 5: That's right, Yeah, okay, maybe just you know what, I've
Speaker 5: come to an idea, why don't we just beat the game?
Speaker 3: We don't do one hundred percent a good idea and
Speaker 3: is not allowed.
Speaker 2: And come on, all right, these creative directors spoke, thank you,
Speaker 2: thank you, thank you for understanding.
Speaker 1: I don't, yeah, you know, I I think I remember not.
Speaker 1: I asked Bailey if she wanted to participate in not
Speaker 1: fully telling her the picture, and then suddenly she had
Speaker 1: to hang out with.
Speaker 2: Us for six hours.
Speaker 5: So long, good time, great time, great And I was like,
Speaker 5: like dying in pain, like pre surgery at the time too,
Speaker 5: So this is our rough day.
Speaker 1: I was playing Mario Kurt.
Speaker 2: But but you did look like you had been through it.
Speaker 1: It was hurting.
Speaker 3: By the m Mario Kart is pretty mid I get it.
Speaker 1: Oh wow, do you think that is that? Is that
Speaker 1: a Mike Naughty opinion? It's just not very good at it.
Speaker 4: I think I think that there's no there's no Mario
Speaker 4: Kurt that's like more than an eight out of ten
Speaker 4: is all it is.
Speaker 5: I would say there's none that are less than a nine,
Speaker 5: except for super circuit.
Speaker 3: Less than a nine.
Speaker 1: Yea super circuit, it's like an eight. The rest are
Speaker 1: nine or above nine are above.
Speaker 4: I think I just, yeah, I definitely think that Mario
Speaker 4: Kart is in general a bit overrated.
Speaker 5: Yes, wow, wait now NICKI in the chat saying double
Speaker 5: dash fucking blows.
Speaker 3: That's that's second best one. Yeah, that's the second best one.
Speaker 3: That one's like a seven point five. It's one of
Speaker 3: the best ones. Oh, that's a that's a nine point
Speaker 3: seven five, brother, nine point seven five.
Speaker 1: All right, folks, we're gonna go to term in actual
Speaker 1: game scores during a quick bricky break, and then Jeff
Speaker 1: Greb will be back with the switch to right after this.
Speaker 1: Would it be incredibly wasteful too, because I enjoy the
Speaker 1: taste of coffee coming out of paper cups. To replace
Speaker 1: all of my mugs with just paper cups is whistle, Yeah, okay,
Speaker 1: all right, well that's yeah.
Speaker 2: But the amount of waste produced is so minuscule compared
Speaker 2: to like what happens on industrial scale that don't feel bad.
Speaker 1: What if I just open up my own coffee cart
Speaker 1: and then I write off the paper.
Speaker 2: Cups, Well, then that's just smart business.
Speaker 1: That's smart. Use paper cups. Just sorry, I don't know
Speaker 1: why it keeps it keeps going. It's supposed to stop.
Speaker 3: It's okay, this is a good segue. Just wash your
Speaker 3: paper cups.
Speaker 1: Use those over and over again.
Speaker 2: Well, they're meant to their cups, they're meant to get wet.
Speaker 1: Well, then you dry them.
Speaker 3: Yeah, put them in the air dryer for a bit.
Speaker 1: Air fryer.
Speaker 4: The lave just for a little bit, the dry up,
Speaker 4: and then you could put the coffee.
Speaker 2: Right. Stop interrupting Gaming Leagues Leaker of the Year, Thank you, everybody.
Speaker 2: Take that.
Speaker 3: Jason Shryer, delicious say something. I'm very proud of you.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I I did not even know that was happening. It
Speaker 2: was and people kept like, like, what are you talking about?
Speaker 2: And then I found it. And of course number two
Speaker 2: Jason Trier eat shit, Jason, there you go. Pretty embarrassing. Shit,
Speaker 2: pretty embarrassing for Jason Shryer. Right, yeah, okay, cool, thanks.
Speaker 2: I guess switch to this week huh podcast The hate
Speaker 2: claims that Nintendo switched to will be revealed this Thursday,
Speaker 2: January sixteenth. Uh, this is everywhere. Now. As soon as
Speaker 2: he said this, everyone who had been sitting on this stuff,
Speaker 2: which was everybody, immediately came out and corroborated this. I've
Speaker 2: heard this a couple of times as well. I've heard
Speaker 2: from people who have heard this and were like, I
Speaker 2: think this is happening. Yeah, sounds like this is very
Speaker 2: likely to be the case. The showing this week will
Speaker 2: be a focus on hardware guys. So it's going to
Speaker 2: be maybe kind of like that first Switch video where
Speaker 2: there's a possibility that there's a game that a man
Speaker 2: is playing on a TV or something like that, or
Speaker 2: that the lady takes to the rooftop party, but we
Speaker 2: are not going to get a lot of details about
Speaker 2: any games, and there's a possibility we won't get any
Speaker 2: games at all. But at least it's a start, right,
Speaker 2: this is this is going to kick it off, and
Speaker 2: then they just can't they have to keep talking about
Speaker 2: Switch to after that, right because.
Speaker 5: I feel like it was the initial Switch hardware reveal,
Speaker 5: the rooftop party one where there were like two point
Speaker 5: five seconds of someone playing Mario Wattasie, and I think
Speaker 5: I remember like frame by framing it and just being like,
Speaker 5: oh fuck, he's throwing his hat, what's going on with that?
Speaker 1: You know?
Speaker 3: So we might get some little teases as I would imagine.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's a little it's a little weirder this time,
Speaker 4: just because you know, with the Switch one, just showing
Speaker 4: the hardware itself was so exciting, right sure, the here
Speaker 4: like one, it is just you know, going to be
Speaker 4: switch again anyways. And two the things that are different,
Speaker 4: like the magnetic joy cons we've known about for like
Speaker 4: a month or something.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so Primate, it's like, oh.
Speaker 4: Please just also show me the new Mario game, right
Speaker 4: because they're not going to probably get into too many
Speaker 4: details like pricing or release date maybe even they certainly
Speaker 4: aren't going to give us specs right away, but yeah,
Speaker 4: you and still it'll be just a happy relief to
Speaker 4: finally see them talk about this thing officially and show
Speaker 4: it off.
Speaker 5: In terms of like release date. Remind me because I
Speaker 5: remember a while ago they said, like, oh, fiscal year
Speaker 5: one or whatever, by the end of March or April
Speaker 5: whatever was it, that they are going to announce it,
Speaker 5: or they're going to just announce it. Okay, so it
Speaker 5: could technically still be like holiday this year.
Speaker 2: Well, so the rumors now are and then these are
Speaker 2: starting to feel a lot more likely at this point
Speaker 2: is that they on Wednesday they say, Hey, tune in tomorrow,
Speaker 2: we're gonna have a reveal of the switch To. On Thursday,
Speaker 2: there's the reveal of switch To. Then in February we
Speaker 2: get the big blowout with all of the actual games
Speaker 2: at that point, and then the system is out in April,
Speaker 2: so we won't we won't be waiting to the holidays.
Speaker 2: And really the way that this is shaping up that
Speaker 2: this this playbook that they're going by based on what
Speaker 2: we know so far, which isn't everything and things could change.
Speaker 2: Nintendo doesn't always do things like oh we did it
Speaker 2: that way before, we're gonna do it that way again.
Speaker 2: But if we do assume some more commonality there, it
Speaker 2: does feel like they are leading up to a release
Speaker 2: sooner rather than later, because announcing it now and they'd
Speaker 2: be like, I guess, you know, buy it this holiday.
Speaker 2: I don't think they would actually go that route, So
Speaker 2: April sounds really plausible.
Speaker 3: At playing New Mario this April, that wow, and.
Speaker 2: Again conversation an internal delay that this thing was probably
Speaker 2: supposed to be out late last year, so they probably
Speaker 2: weren't thinking like a year long delay when they did that,
Speaker 2: and it seems like that's the case.
Speaker 1: You Know, what I'm curious about is still like that
Speaker 1: network test for that uh.
Speaker 2: Game that that leaked a little bit, There was more
Speaker 2: footage of that, and again I played that thing. I
Speaker 2: think it's soon or interesting. Uh maybe it's like listen,
Speaker 2: there's a lot going on in there that that is
Speaker 2: not just some like test that they're going to just
Speaker 2: throw out and forget about. It had like a eighty
Speaker 2: tracks soundtrack in the game, like they have. They've done
Speaker 2: a lot of work on it. Uh so that probably
Speaker 2: does like launch alongside Switch to You or something.
Speaker 1: That's what I can.
Speaker 5: See that eight fucking years since the mainline Mario game.
Speaker 5: That's insane.
Speaker 2: Yeah, what is time man Bowser's Fury? Do I think
Speaker 2: that's a mainline Mario game. I think it's a.
Speaker 3: Taste of what the next mainline Mario game should be.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's It definitely was the next mainline Mario game
Speaker 2: that they were making, and then they sort of abandoned it.
Speaker 2: Like they must have had like bigger ideas even than that,
Speaker 2: And that's really crept.
Speaker 3: For the next mainline Mario post odyssey.
Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, trying trying to think there's other things to
Speaker 2: mentioned here before we get to some like other related stories.
Speaker 2: Uh yeah, just that like when people are talking about this,
Speaker 2: like Kit and Christa, they're like, yeah, Nintendo sees all
Speaker 2: the weeks they have their plan and they are going
Speaker 2: to stick to it no matter what. And that seems
Speaker 2: to be what a lot of people are saying, is
Speaker 2: well that, yeah, Nintendo saw that stuff happening. Sure they
Speaker 2: were aware of it, and maybe even they went up
Speaker 2: and talked to Ginky, one of the companies primarily responsible
Speaker 2: for leaking all of that stuff, But that was not
Speaker 2: going to force them to, you know, change their hand
Speaker 2: and be like, Okay, I guess we're gonna announce this
Speaker 2: thing now. They know that most people are are you know,
Speaker 2: the vast majority of the audience they're going to sell
Speaker 2: this thing to are not paying attention to those leagues.
Speaker 3: So yeah, I almost do hope that they have a
Speaker 3: rooftop party in the new ad.
Speaker 1: Come on, it's what if it's a basement party?
Speaker 2: What if they bring it all the way down like
Speaker 2: Submarine Parking Karage party?
Speaker 1: Yeah, stever the Moon.
Speaker 5: What if the big first party game is Steel Diver?
Speaker 5: Oh shit, I always forget that too. Yeah, Steel Diver three,
Speaker 5: but it's like Drive three or it's Steel the Diver.
Speaker 3: Hell yeah, good.
Speaker 1: I like it.
Speaker 2: Assassin's Creek Games and middle Gear Solid Delta could release
Speaker 2: on switch to uh, switch to? Is is you know,
Speaker 2: rememored to get revealed. You saw this reportly developing more
Speaker 2: than half a dozen games for the Switch to not surprising.
Speaker 2: They always support new hardware right away, so Assassin's Creed
Speaker 2: uh shadows. Sure, but there's probably gonna be like Assassin's
Speaker 2: Creed Mirage ready, like where you go right at.
Speaker 5: Any hardware going back forever, Like the fucking we balance board.
Speaker 5: They're like, we're doing ray Man Raving Rabbits TV party
Speaker 5: and you can use the balance board.
Speaker 2: I mean the VR, all the VR headsets they had
Speaker 2: stuff for that, all.
Speaker 3: In on the we Arkham City Armored edition.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's to the point where like there was that VR.
Speaker 1: About you made Zombie You. Yes, I was thinking about
Speaker 1: Zombie You. Yes, uh yeah.
Speaker 2: It's weird to the point where they had that VR
Speaker 2: like Werewolf game that they made that then became a
Speaker 2: movie and it's apparently the highest rated video or highest
Speaker 2: rated movie based on a video game property and no
Speaker 2: one has ever played this video game before. So weird anyway.
Speaker 2: Middle Gear Solid Delta also probably coming out in twenty
Speaker 2: twenty five and maybe gonna line up for an relatively
Speaker 2: early launch window release for the Switch too, And maybe
Speaker 2: that's one of the reasons we haven't heard the release
Speaker 2: date for it, Like I think Konami, still being a
Speaker 2: Japanese focused company in a lot of ways, is like, no,
Speaker 2: we got to be on Nintendo's hardware. That's where games
Speaker 2: are sold, and we'll get to a story later on
Speaker 2: that does confirm the like in Japan, games basically only
Speaker 2: sell on the Switch, so that might be a part
Speaker 2: of it of them being like, hey, let's just wait
Speaker 2: till the Switch too is ready and then we'll just
Speaker 2: launch it on everything at that point because we know
Speaker 2: it will be able to run on there.
Speaker 1: So that sounds right to me.
Speaker 2: I think a lot of companies are going to be
Speaker 2: lining up to support the switch to, even like Ubisoft obviously,
Speaker 2: but even some that were hesitant about Switch one will
Speaker 2: be there for Switch two's launch right right.
Speaker 3: And you'll be interest to see a companies like Capcom
Speaker 3: that had to like make a Switch version of a
Speaker 3: game like a Monster Hunter Rise instead of just pointing
Speaker 3: Munster Hunter World, are we just going to get Monster
Speaker 3: Hunter Wilds like on the switch to relatively early? We're
Speaker 3: going to see a lot of these Resident Evil games
Speaker 3: supported over there.
Speaker 4: I mean that that is like just immediately going to
Speaker 4: give this the switch to a somewhat exciting early library, Like, hey,
Speaker 4: this game is now on switch too, and it runs
Speaker 4: really well. You don't have to get some shitty cloud
Speaker 4: version or something.
Speaker 2: Yep, that's right, all right? If I were to say
Speaker 2: that at that Xbox Developer Direct next week that they
Speaker 2: were going to have a mystery new game and now
Speaker 2: it's reportedly going to be a new entry and a
Speaker 2: legendary Japanese ip that that goes back decades, what are
Speaker 2: your guys guesses?
Speaker 1: Personal?
Speaker 2: Okay, right, Cieve, I think that's a good guess. What
Speaker 2: about like a Dragon Quest? Was it twelve twelve?
Speaker 1: Twelve?
Speaker 3: Yes, twelve is the next one. They've announced that and
Speaker 3: haven't said anything for a while.
Speaker 2: They announced it. It's like, and the mystery game is
Speaker 2: supposed to be something that's brand new, So maybe maybe
Speaker 2: that's not it.
Speaker 1: What if it's Persona? Xbox is green, Seawn is obsessed
Speaker 1: with that green bucket of paint.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but maybe Persona.
Speaker 4: The guys they released two games last year, right, those
Speaker 4: two different teams now, so I don't know if they're
Speaker 4: quite right. I don't know they got one the Chamber
Speaker 4: right now?
Speaker 1: It would cloud. It's I think Persona is too niche
Speaker 1: if they're building Yeah, sure, Yeah, there's five sold two
Speaker 1: hundred thousand.
Speaker 2: There's two franchises that like come to mind for me,
Speaker 2: and it's that new rumored Casylvania from Konami, and the
Speaker 2: other one is Ninja Guidan because Xbox has a whole
Speaker 2: long history with Ninja Guidance.
Speaker 3: I would love a Ninja Guiden, and.
Speaker 2: I think both of those are are are possible, and
Speaker 2: I think I would I would prefer to see what
Speaker 2: Caslvania is, what's going on with Caslvania, but Ninja Guiden
Speaker 2: would be awesome as well. But yeah, I don't know
Speaker 2: any other guesses here because I don't really know. I think,
Speaker 2: you know, I mentioned Oblivion maybe being the remake of Oblivion,
Speaker 2: being that when they said it's a brand new game,
Speaker 2: that's probably not the mystery game that they're referencing, although
Speaker 2: I still think there's a chance we get information about
Speaker 2: Oblivion at this U.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'd love to see Oblivion.
Speaker 4: Hey, Dan, how would you feel if I said percent
Speaker 4: of five so more copies of Malgar solid five?
Speaker 1: There's just no way, Well, there's this a way.
Speaker 3: It's It's true well, eat my.
Speaker 5: Every game I've ember talked to you knows middle of
Speaker 5: your solid The only people that play Persona host podcasts?
Speaker 1: That all right, but that's true.
Speaker 2: I actually I don't know if he's wrong about that one. Guys,
Speaker 2: there's a lot of podcasts out there.
Speaker 1: Yeah, do you think Joe Rogan has played Persona?
Speaker 5: No, you bought a PS five for college football?
Speaker 1: I'm sure. I don't know.
Speaker 4: I still felt good about my Resident Evil. But capcong
Speaker 4: has done so much stuff with Xbox lately and game
Speaker 4: Pass and all that stuff. I mean, maybe it's maybe
Speaker 4: it's too hopeful, right because that's such a big, big
Speaker 4: deal Resident Evil.
Speaker 2: Yep, they could love to see that.
Speaker 1: They could do that themselves, right, Capcom, because just they
Speaker 1: don't need Box for that, that's right.
Speaker 2: Say with Persona, I think I said, like both both
Speaker 2: those are in the same bucket of like they have
Speaker 2: their audience and they know how to talk to them.
Speaker 2: But that doesn't mean it's impossible. Ninja guid In though
Speaker 2: that's that could use it to develop it.
Speaker 4: Did say the words Mega Man for a little bit
Speaker 4: there at one point. I don't know if I'm really
Speaker 4: gonna get my hopes up for that, but that'd be cool.
Speaker 1: I was joking, but that would be cool.
Speaker 2: Elder scrolls of four Oblivion remake gameplay updates have reportedly leaked.
Speaker 2: This is being developed by Virtuos. It has been rumored
Speaker 2: for some time. Apparently they're going to be reworking a
Speaker 2: lot of the gameplay features as well, including a reworked stamina, sneaking, blocking, archery,
Speaker 2: hit reaction, and HUD system excuse me, HUD systems, to
Speaker 2: the point where it's like it's going to feel very
Speaker 2: different and maybe improved. Because Oblivion that's an old game, now,
Speaker 2: that's I mean, god, we're almost twenty years old for that. Yeah,
Speaker 2: so eighteen years nineteen years old, Jesus. So yeah, I
Speaker 2: think that them going in there and remaking some of
Speaker 2: that stuff is interesting. But I think it also speaks
Speaker 2: to earlier rumors where that this was going to be
Speaker 2: a visual remake on top of the systems from the
Speaker 2: original game. Now, if they're adjusting the systems the original game,
Speaker 2: that maybe suggest they're remaking the entire thing in Unreal
Speaker 2: Engine five. So this could be more of a remake
Speaker 2: than or initially suggested. That's pretty cool. I like Oblivion
Speaker 2: a lot, so I'm very excited about that.
Speaker 5: Oblivia still feels like a new game to me, like
Speaker 5: a newer games.
Speaker 2: You know what. It's like one elder scrolls will go right,
Speaker 2: So yeah.
Speaker 5: Yeah, like I wouldn't consider like in my head it's
Speaker 5: not like a retro game. But when you say almost
Speaker 5: like twenty years like.
Speaker 2: Definitely a retro game, Yeah.
Speaker 4: Well it's like, yeah, it's like, how do we define
Speaker 4: retro game? It depends anymore, right, because my mind is
Speaker 4: like some separation between pre Xbox three sixty in post
Speaker 4: x right, that line is.
Speaker 2: Getting blurrier every day, and eventually Xbox through sixty is
Speaker 2: going to have to cross that rubicon, and it's it
Speaker 2: feels like it's closer than.
Speaker 5: That's my cutoff for collecting retro It is like three
Speaker 5: sixty is the most recent console that I collect, Okay,
Speaker 5: and also everyone just kind of turned to downloads after
Speaker 5: that anyway, So sure, I can't wait.
Speaker 3: To play abliviting game.
Speaker 4: That game rules, and it also has a credible expansion
Speaker 4: with Shivering Aisles. Patrick Stewart's in it, Hit bor Mir
Speaker 4: is in it really great question chains there right with
Speaker 4: like the Dark Brotherhood and stuff like that.
Speaker 1: So Patrick Stewart alive. Yes, yes, he's just four.
Speaker 2: Wow, he's still going really Yeah, it's good clean living. Okay, Mike,
Speaker 2: get out the goggles, get out the science jackets, get
Speaker 2: out our water tank.
Speaker 1: It's time to put some noises underwater.
Speaker 2: Because Sega has trademarks Echo the Dolphin.
Speaker 3: H I can go, Let's fucking go.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: The the trademarks were made public on January fourteenth, so
Speaker 2: today uh and Sega's intentions for the IP are unclear,
Speaker 2: but this seems in line with their recent initiative of
Speaker 2: taking classic properties and making new games based on them.
Speaker 2: They have a lot of those. It's not just like
Speaker 2: we're going to dabble in this. This is a major
Speaker 2: thing that they're doing, where they have five or six
Speaker 2: that they've announced already, and then there's like another five
Speaker 2: or six they were working on that they haven't announced,
Speaker 2: and maybe they're already queuing up something like Echo the
Speaker 2: Dolphin to follow up those. I yeah, I want to
Speaker 2: see this.
Speaker 4: I like Echo the Dolphin, Echo the Dolphin and rules,
Speaker 4: and you know, there's definitely things about that game that
Speaker 4: then and now are a brace of the level design,
Speaker 4: the puzzles, it's all pretty tough but the things Echo
Speaker 4: did right with this atmosphere and mood are still really incredible,
Speaker 4: especially back then, like right in nineteen ninety or nineteen
Speaker 4: ninety one, all these games. Everything was like a cute
Speaker 4: sel like you know, mascot platformer or you know, it
Speaker 4: looked like an eighties fantasy novel. Right, everything was very
Speaker 4: stylized or cartoony.
Speaker 3: Here's the game.
Speaker 2: He just play as a dolphin and it just shooks
Speaker 2: like yeah, dolphin, and there was like mysticism minute but
Speaker 2: played within that realism, like the Great White Whales like
Speaker 2: this sage.
Speaker 3: Right, there's aliens.
Speaker 4: Involved and they look fucked up, but also realistic in
Speaker 4: a weird way. So yeah, doing some kind of modern
Speaker 4: Echo the Dolphin game that smooths out some of those
Speaker 4: harder edges gameplay wise, and you may just kind of
Speaker 4: make it a big Metroivina sort of thing.
Speaker 3: Oh that would be amazing, So excit for that.
Speaker 1: If I were to check out, which one should I
Speaker 1: go for?
Speaker 2: Just I mean, just play Echo one and vibe out
Speaker 2: for a bit, I think is what you should do.
Speaker 2: Or the dream games or Dreamcast one. Good water, it's
Speaker 2: a good game.
Speaker 1: It's good.
Speaker 3: That Dreamcast game always like it.
Speaker 4: Weirds me up because that's a game that got great
Speaker 4: reviews at the time.
Speaker 3: Everyone really liked it. No one talks about Echo Defender
Speaker 3: of the Future.
Speaker 4: What about Echo Junior? I like to a junior because
Speaker 4: I was a kid, like fucked that Echo Junior. H Oh,
Speaker 4: the bonus stages in the second one, the tides of
Speaker 4: time are really neat where you're kind of like going
Speaker 4: through the rings.
Speaker 1: Right, it's kind of like Superman sixty four but in water.
Speaker 1: I like Echo to Dolphins great.
Speaker 4: A Superman sixty four ring bassed shirt Dan recently on
Speaker 4: Yetti or something.
Speaker 3: Oh no, that sorry, Jeff, No.
Speaker 2: It's okay, we should we should get that for you.
Speaker 2: I think as much as like Echo, it's still my
Speaker 2: second favorite dolphin based game. I think I like Dolphin
Speaker 2: Olympics more than that the Flash game.
Speaker 5: No, I was we're talking to fish games. I was
Speaker 5: a James Pond guy. Sure, not a seaman guy, A
Speaker 5: big seaman guy.
Speaker 1: What are you talking about?
Speaker 3: I'm I raised the seaman like two years ago.
Speaker 4: I guess we did a whole live podcast where we
Speaker 4: talked about the Mount Rosemore video game Fish.
Speaker 3: We did it include that guy?
Speaker 2: I loveman Seaman was included on that, right, that was.
Speaker 3: It was the George Washington. Yeah on there, don't worry. Yeah, sure,
Speaker 3: all right, give me echo. I'm so excited.
Speaker 2: Sony has a patent to fix the latency issues and
Speaker 2: games by predicting player inputs in advance. Uh so, apparently
Speaker 2: there's multiple ways they might do this. One is just
Speaker 2: point a camera at your controller and watch what you're
Speaker 2: about to press and predict it as you're pressing it.
Speaker 2: And the other one's like incomplete inputs. So shut the.
Speaker 1: Fuck up and go outside.
Speaker 2: So now you know who you know who last did
Speaker 2: this and why they think it could work.
Speaker 1: Google Stadia was gonna do this, God damn it.
Speaker 2: So you know, just before I was like this, this
Speaker 2: sounds familiar. Yep. So yeah, that's just not a one
Speaker 2: what I want.
Speaker 1: We're gonna ban an app, but we're we're completely fine
Speaker 1: with Sony pointing a camera at my ear holes and
Speaker 1: my hands.
Speaker 2: Yeah, man, of your hands and your ear holes now.
Speaker 2: Uh yeah, negative latency, thank you, Lexi. That's what Google
Speaker 2: Stadius said. It was gonna be reverse latency.
Speaker 4: So just it's just we're just so close to we
Speaker 4: have like programs where it's like any I is gonna
Speaker 4: play the game for you, and there are going to
Speaker 4: be some chuds who are gonna get like real excited
Speaker 4: about that.
Speaker 2: Where Jango, I'm camera broke.
Speaker 3: Okay, there here, here, here, I am you are so scared.
Speaker 2: There are things you can do that are similar to this,
Speaker 2: where it's like in a retro arch where it has
Speaker 2: that run ahead latency.
Speaker 3: Minus two stuff.
Speaker 2: Yeah, like it's running two frames ahead while you're playing,
Speaker 2: so that when you press two frames behind, so when
Speaker 2: you press the button, it jumps back two frames and
Speaker 2: has that when you press the button, so it feels
Speaker 2: instantaneous and it works crazy. It works so well, it's crazy.
Speaker 2: I think it's like maybe the best way to play
Speaker 2: punch Out for example. It's it's nuts. So there's stuff
Speaker 2: they could do, but that's like requires you to be
Speaker 2: able to render two frames and jump back instantaneously, and
Speaker 2: that's going to be hard to do with modern games,
Speaker 2: which is why it's not really an option. All right,
Speaker 2: Hatsuni miiku is h and local multiplayer come into Fortnite.
Speaker 1: Local multiplayer what yeah, let's see here.
Speaker 2: The season seven also introduces local multiplayer, crying all players
Speaker 2: to have an epic account and platform accounts. I think
Speaker 2: it's just going to be like locally you can all
Speaker 2: hop on at the same time, like private, like like well,
Speaker 2: I don't know, like it's weird. Yeah. In festival, this
Speaker 2: is Fortnite Festival season seven. Yes, Fortnite Festival is a
Speaker 2: free to play rhythm action mode with a ro selection
Speaker 2: of music. Okay, that makes sense. So yeah, so I'm
Speaker 2: sorry that it will be local multiplayer for this thing.
Speaker 2: That could be like a party game, right, So that
Speaker 2: makes sense.
Speaker 1: Okay.
Speaker 2: A speed Runner played Crazy Taxi with a live band
Speaker 2: to avoid copyright issues. Did you guys see this?
Speaker 1: So cool?
Speaker 2: It was awesome. I really wish I was there for that.
Speaker 5: That was So if it's a cover you like, it
Speaker 5: won't obviously won't trip like a d MC a thing
Speaker 5: necessarily or.
Speaker 2: The cook covers are you know, have their own rules
Speaker 2: and stuff like that. And if you, uh, if you
Speaker 2: were to produce a live cover, I think that you
Speaker 2: are mostly fine. If you try to sell a cover
Speaker 2: as a recording, there is there's a set amount you
Speaker 2: have to pay the original artist and that is like
Speaker 2: handled not by them. It goes to like the art
Speaker 2: the recording industry and then they send that money to
Speaker 2: the artists. So yeah, there's a lot more protections for covers.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's why we did the cover for that Sarah
Speaker 1: McLachlan song exactly. Yeah.
Speaker 5: And the cover actually it clips that one on Spotify,
Speaker 5: so we kind of are seen as like the main
Speaker 5: one now, yeah.
Speaker 2: It's the one everyone remembers. Yeah, yeah, all right a
Speaker 2: couple more years.
Speaker 4: Oh wait, uh, just you know about about the games
Speaker 4: un quick, I mean we were there, Jeff, and we
Speaker 4: had a great time with that. We went on Thursday,
Speaker 4: we got to see all that Tears of the Kingdom run,
Speaker 4: which was super fun. Just I don't know, I'm just
Speaker 4: so impressible with everything that they do there. I was
Speaker 4: laughing because you had Emma on uh Game Mess Mornings
Speaker 4: yesterday and she was telling a story about Spike Vegeta
Speaker 4: randomly teaching her how to speed run a Sonic game
Speaker 4: and it was like the second year in a row
Speaker 4: where I've been too shy to even say hi to
Speaker 4: Spike Vegeta.
Speaker 3: I putting them up on some kind of pedestal.
Speaker 1: Like a speed runner.
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, yeah, it's like host.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, he's like one of the hosts of awesome
Speaker 2: games done quick that everyone knows by name.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I what a cool name.
Speaker 4: I struggled so much with this, with the whole like
Speaker 4: song copyright thing in these dmcas, because it's like, yeah,
Speaker 4: these people made songs and they deserve to be paid
Speaker 4: for their art. But I hate that it's somehow my
Speaker 4: problem when I want to go extream Tonyak's pro skater, right, yep, sure, yep.
Speaker 2: Absolutely, it feels like this stuff should have been figured
Speaker 2: out beyond that. Yeah, Mike's right. Though. It was awesome.
Speaker 2: It was a really good time. It was cool to
Speaker 2: just see such good, good vibes, good energy. I love
Speaker 2: games done quick. Nintendo has dominated PlayStation in Japan for
Speaker 2: twenty straight years. It's a bunch of headlines today because
Speaker 2: once again the top selling games in Japan for last
Speaker 2: year came out and there were only two games that
Speaker 2: were not on Switch, and they were Final Fantasy seven
Speaker 2: Rebirth and Dragon Quest three HD two D remake the
Speaker 2: PS five version for that. So yeah, and that's how
Speaker 2: it's been for twenty years straight. There was only one
Speaker 2: year where Nintendo console wasn't the best selling console in Japan.
Speaker 2: The Switch is now the number one best selling console
Speaker 2: ever in Japan at like thirty six thirty five million
Speaker 2: in total sales, you know, and in that twenty years,
Speaker 2: the we You happened and even that didn't slow down
Speaker 2: Nintendo in Japan. So yeah, imagine what it's like now
Speaker 2: with the switch, which is this goes back and speaks
Speaker 2: to what we were talking about earlier. A lot of
Speaker 2: Japanese publishers are going to be their day one for
Speaker 2: the switch to They will want to be seen as
Speaker 2: supporting that console and selling games on it. Yeah.
Speaker 5: I just randomly remember we were doing a Game of
Speaker 5: the Year, must have been twenty fifteen or so, and
Speaker 5: Patrick Kleppik flew out to San Francisco to do our
Speaker 5: Game of the Year and he brought his wu and
Speaker 5: one of the like contenders for that year he had
Speaker 5: not played was Bayonetta two, and he played it on
Speaker 5: the plane, remember, on his WEU, but plugging in the console,
Speaker 5: putting any seatback thing, having the cable come out, plug
Speaker 5: into the seat power, and then just playing it on
Speaker 5: the screen mode on.
Speaker 3: The games a real game, playing it like there's the
Speaker 3: original switch.
Speaker 4: Yeah, wow, real games to go to now we have
Speaker 4: Steam debts.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and then hey, last story here, Tech You Down
Speaker 2: is making a PS one FPGA console that looks hot
Speaker 2: as hell. It is based on that PS one, theer
Speaker 2: n E version, the slim version. It's one hundred and
Speaker 2: fifty dollars. It has a full support for Mister cores,
Speaker 2: so you'll be able to play other things on there
Speaker 2: right out of the box. This thing is maybe ideal
Speaker 2: for a lot of people who are looking to get
Speaker 2: into this.
Speaker 1: Oh this looks pretty, it's cool. I'm very raced, very reasonable. Yep, yeah,
Speaker 1: that looks hot as hell.
Speaker 2: It's one hundred and fifty for the first run, then
Speaker 2: it goes up. Thank you vash Dan denesh Dan Danish.
Speaker 2: But yeah, get it because it's going to be worth it. Like,
Speaker 2: this is the kind of thing where if you have
Speaker 2: had any interest in Mister up to this point, this
Speaker 2: is a good way to get it. Now he's had
Speaker 2: the Mister Pie which is a similar price, and maybe
Speaker 2: you can just go get that. But this one looks cool.
Speaker 5: Great questions from Nicky in the chat. They say, Hey,
Speaker 5: if I'm stupid, what is this for? Why would I
Speaker 5: want this?
Speaker 1: You know?
Speaker 5: And this is how I felt when I first started
Speaker 5: hearing people like, you know, Peter Brown and Gersman talking
Speaker 5: about the mystery, and I was like, this is some
Speaker 5: weird like they're getting CRTs and stuff like, oh, this
Speaker 5: is way too deep in the week and I've just
Speaker 5: been super deep those weeds for years now.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, Grub, you're smarter than me. Do you want
Speaker 3: to explain it?
Speaker 2: I wouldn't say that, but it was I think Pga, Well,
Speaker 2: I mean what it is? It maybe is not the
Speaker 2: answer to Nicky's question like why they would want it
Speaker 2: it Basically, it's there's a reason that there's so many
Speaker 2: retrogaming nerds who obsess over this stuff and this is
Speaker 2: the scene that they're in. It's because there is a
Speaker 2: lot of excitement about getting hardware that can perfectly replicate
Speaker 2: older hardware and and then you know that stuff just
Speaker 2: works in perpetuity. You don't have to worry about like
Speaker 2: software emulators long term. The support there could decompose over time,
Speaker 2: and those ones maybe had maybe had shoddy support in
Speaker 2: the first place, where the games didn't run exactly the
Speaker 2: way that they're supposed to run. Maybe they run a
Speaker 2: little bit too fast. This is a big problem within
Speaker 2: sixty four emulation. MVG just did a video about this
Speaker 2: feciently by IN sixty four emulators. Well, the hope is
Speaker 2: is that Analog three D, the FPGA version of this
Speaker 2: that Analog has, which is more to this, is gonna
Speaker 2: be more expensive, but it's N sixty four version could
Speaker 2: solve a lot of those issues. Now we'll wait and
Speaker 2: see on that. N sixty four still has some problems
Speaker 2: even for FPGA, but for PS one, a bunch of
Speaker 2: these other older consoles. This is a cool little device
Speaker 2: that is just going to support all your games. Are
Speaker 2: gonna be to put your ROMs on there. You could
Speaker 2: do whatever you want with it, and it's uh yeah.
Speaker 2: And then it's also going to have long term support
Speaker 2: because there is a huge scene behind it that is
Speaker 2: always trying to make it better.
Speaker 5: And you can do fun stuff with the two where
Speaker 5: it's like you can mine's hooked up to my CRT
Speaker 5: and I've got adapters for all these actual controllers, Like
Speaker 5: I can play you know, PS one games on a
Speaker 5: PS one controller and then I can plug in my
Speaker 5: Superintendo controller. Like it's it's it's just a much more
Speaker 5: accurate it's emulation at a hardware level versus software, which
Speaker 5: is more accurate.
Speaker 4: It's I like it a lot, and if you're even
Speaker 4: if you're like you didn't want to install those extra coors,
Speaker 4: like having the PS one be like the one console
Speaker 4: you have one of these things.
Speaker 3: That's a great one. There's so many fun, weird and
Speaker 3: like interesting and seminal PS one games.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but it's for old heads.
Speaker 2: It is if you are not interested in playing a
Speaker 2: lot of older games, this is yeah, don't spend the
Speaker 2: money on it. That's clearly where this is, all right,
Speaker 2: jan I think I'm done with the headlines. Yep, no
Speaker 2: more headlines, handing the show back over to you.
Speaker 1: Wow, this this show needs to take a quick nap
Speaker 1: and needs to go take a breath of fresh air,
Speaker 1: much like Sony does. We don't need AI to tell
Speaker 1: me what buttons I'm gonna press. I won't. I won't
Speaker 1: let them know. I'm gonna keep them guessing.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so you.
Speaker 1: Know we're gonna fait the black before we get to emails. Uh,
Speaker 1: we actually need to settle one thing.
Speaker 2: You're in control of the buttons. You didn't have to
Speaker 2: interrupt your own music like no, no, no.
Speaker 1: No, no, no no, no, this is yeah. It's it's fine,
Speaker 1: it's fine. I've trained scout how to press the buttons. Okay,
Speaker 1: it's just pedals on the floor now, uh huh, all right,
Speaker 1: we during the quick breaking break, we were trying to
Speaker 1: settle the validity of Persona being more popular than metal Gear.
Speaker 2: So we've specifically dance saying like he hasn't met any
Speaker 2: normal person who's played Persona, And well, how do.
Speaker 5: We like terminally online gamer podcast people and stuff. Yes,
Speaker 5: I know they like that stuff, but you talk to
Speaker 5: your neighbors who have a PlayStation. They don't know what
Speaker 5: the fuck Persona is.
Speaker 1: So what we're going if there is anyone who's listening
Speaker 1: to the podcast right now that works at a coffee shop,
Speaker 1: a subway, or any place where there is a tip
Speaker 1: jar at your place of employment, we're going to ask
Speaker 1: you to set up two tip jars and do the
Speaker 1: whole tip more thing, one saying metal Gear and then
Speaker 1: the other one being Persona. And we're just curious as
Speaker 1: to whichever one will get more recognition from the people
Speaker 1: coming to your job.
Speaker 3: And I and I mean this, even if it means
Speaker 3: I'm wrong, don't make this a work like pictures two
Speaker 3: Giant Bomb and then old posts and stuff, even if
Speaker 3: it if Persona wins. I'll say, okay, I concede. Would
Speaker 3: you be surprised that in this poll just ran right
Speaker 3: now Persona one.
Speaker 5: In terms of because we're on a live video game podcast,
Speaker 5: we're all deep in the weeds internet people here, I'm
Speaker 5: saying normal human society doesn't know what persona or anime
Speaker 5: is society.
Speaker 3: Anime is so mainstream now this place.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I agree that with Nikki. This place is not representative.
Speaker 2: That's what we're doing this.
Speaker 4: It's fine, but anime is mainstream now. That is indisputable.
Speaker 4: I don't even like anime that much.
Speaker 3: It is more more people know anime than no persona.
Speaker 4: Well, yes, because that's the whole genre as opposed to
Speaker 4: one franchise.
Speaker 1: Sure, okay, okay.
Speaker 5: I know anime is kind of popular because I know
Speaker 5: there's like shows and stuff now that like he used
Speaker 5: to just be Dragonball and now there's a bunch of them.
Speaker 2: So I assume, like somebody's grandma, you are so someone
Speaker 2: said you are so stuck in two thousand and eight,
Speaker 2: played Metal Gear solid for it.
Speaker 3: Think he is the greatest thing of the world. It's insane,
Speaker 3: it still is. But yeah, no, anime obviously is has
Speaker 3: some fans.
Speaker 1: Wait, hold on, there's a Persona five stage play.
Speaker 3: Mmmm.
Speaker 2: Okay, I need to see this. Yeah, it's touring, Okay,
Speaker 2: right right now, Jad says.
Speaker 5: Dan contends that no normies know what Persona is. His
Speaker 5: fatal flaw is thinking normies know what metal gear is.
Speaker 1: All right?
Speaker 3: You know who's a fucking normy when it comes to
Speaker 3: games and internet stuff. Paul levec Triple H.
Speaker 5: And when he came on Up, Up, Down down once
Speaker 5: talk about video games, which is a weird idea because
Speaker 5: like he doesn't know video games.
Speaker 3: Woods was like, all right, so what's tell me about.
Speaker 5: A game that you love? He's like, oh, man less.
Speaker 5: When I really played it was that middle your solid.
Speaker 5: I thought it was a Triple H knows what metal
Speaker 5: year Solid is.
Speaker 4: The hole stuck in the past allegation here, Dan, I'm like,
Speaker 4: I feel.
Speaker 2: Like I'm I think I leaned towards Dan on this one.
Speaker 2: Do you also hate JRPGs. I'm just about hating JRPGs.
Speaker 2: I recognize the popularity Persona. I just think that when
Speaker 2: we're talking about a casual audience of normal human society,
Speaker 2: as Dan said, I think it's gonna be slightly more
Speaker 2: metal Gear blowout.
Speaker 1: Okay.
Speaker 5: For instance, I listened to Deadlock podcast and they play games,
Speaker 5: they stream games, they do wrestling games and stuff. They're
Speaker 5: not completely like normous, but they were making fun of
Speaker 5: the game awards and stuff because they'd never heard of
Speaker 5: like Astrobot or metaphor Refantasio and like, so that's kind
Speaker 5: of more close to like normy game stuff. But they
Speaker 5: fucking know metal Gear. They have talked about metal Gear.
Speaker 2: They're also dan like thirty, right, but you guys think
Speaker 2: old people don't exist?
Speaker 1: Yes, what are you talking about? What people said?
Speaker 3: What are you talking about that argument?
Speaker 2: People?
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't about.
Speaker 3: Young people, So I'm just dismissing anything they think.
Speaker 4: Okay, Medalgre is definitely more adjacent to wrestling than persda is,
Speaker 4: I guess, although I bet if we ask, like a
Speaker 4: modern like what they like more the NX.
Speaker 5: Okay, Well, Kenny Omega is a total nerd, and so
Speaker 5: would so. I remember the night I met Woods he
Speaker 5: was talking about persona was like a fucking nerd.
Speaker 2: I had sales data, right, so we just know more
Speaker 2: people bought percent of five than melt your song five.
Speaker 1: In Japan or here no world wide? Okay, what about.
Speaker 5: US sales data because I'm based on anio and stuff
Speaker 5: for my upbringing and I live in the States.
Speaker 4: Yeah, but like this is like with that Disney thing again.
Speaker 4: You don't you're not talking to many people about persona.
Speaker 4: Of course, they're not going to talk about it. Try
Speaker 4: to talk about They're not going to talk about Minnie
Speaker 4: Mouse with you. You want to talks about that with me?
Speaker 4: It must not be popular. That makes no sense, you
Speaker 4: would forget anyways.
Speaker 2: Anyway, if you have a coffee shop, do this, I
Speaker 2: want in like, please do so that's the data and.
Speaker 1: Don't work it.
Speaker 5: Don't work it as a bit or whatever, like I
Speaker 5: genuinely want to see yep.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, Or if you want to give me money
Speaker 1: to open up a coffee cart, then we can. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but it's gonna take a little bit longer.
Speaker 3: I'm not I'm okay with people skewing it towards an
Speaker 3: older demographic. So if you work in like a VFW bar,
Speaker 3: do it there.
Speaker 2: If you do this, send us a picture, we'll like
Speaker 2: maybe even like send people to your your place and yeah, tipping.
Speaker 2: So we're trying to, yeah, make sure that you get
Speaker 2: something out of this.
Speaker 1: You can't work at an anime store, and none of
Speaker 1: that work in a real store.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I would never tip an anime store worker.
Speaker 5: I'm gonna call the cops on an anime store if
Speaker 5: I see one.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, okay, all right.
Speaker 4: This is the person who doesn't say the popular person,
Speaker 4: the one who refuse to take an anime figurine to
Speaker 4: the airport.
Speaker 3: Sex toy b.
Speaker 1: You know what's funny, though, I think Sean and I
Speaker 1: were both collectively sad that Backlar was the one that
Speaker 1: wound up taking it, because I think both of us
Speaker 1: wanted He's on a list, all right. First email comes
Speaker 1: Joe from New York. Hey, y'all watch the movie Tombstone.
Speaker 1: It's a western from nineteen ninety three. It's got all
Speaker 1: your favorite actors in it, and when it's over, you'll
Speaker 1: either really want to play Red Dead or you'll get
Speaker 1: your fill of cowboys shit and you won't want to
Speaker 1: play Red Dead anymore. Joe from New York. That's the
Speaker 1: movie with the Huckleberry line, right, Bell Kilmer, Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3: Excuse me, what's his.
Speaker 1: Name now, Powers Booth?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 4: Yeah, the cowboy overwatched then said it to is a voice. Cohky,
Speaker 4: that's a cold cast.
Speaker 5: Yeah, Phil Paxton and that it's been for ever since
Speaker 5: I saw Yeah, Kurt Russell.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's really good cast. Ye when when I say
Speaker 1: tipping and sending me money, folks, it's for the stop
Speaker 1: stop you know.
Speaker 3: What I'm not gonna for me. I'm fine with that.
Speaker 1: Well, Dan, it is a go because so far one
Speaker 1: in the metal gear jar.
Speaker 5: Anyway, I'm going to find these stores and shove so
Speaker 5: much money in there. Great, well, no it's not a work.
Speaker 5: If it's real money that I'm putting in there, I'm saying,
Speaker 5: don't gimmick it, so like, don't stage it.
Speaker 1: You know, how can we take over a small town?
Speaker 1: That saying? That's me tipping. That's what the point of
Speaker 1: the thing is. But what I'm saying is all right,
Speaker 1: all right, it's one thing to give us our own
Speaker 1: game show network, But how do we take over a
Speaker 1: small town and just kind of like, you know, I'll.
Speaker 2: Be I mean, like how big is a small town
Speaker 2: in your mind? Because if it's like twenty people, I
Speaker 2: can tell you how we take it over pretty easy.
Speaker 2: We just you know, beat up everyone and tell us
Speaker 2: may get to pick violets?
Speaker 3: Do mayors get to pick cabinets like a president does.
Speaker 2: Ah, it's not like going to be as powerful as
Speaker 2: the presidential cabinet.
Speaker 5: Because I am confident I could easily become mayor of
Speaker 5: a city. And then if that's the case, if it's
Speaker 5: a city that accepts cabinets, you're all in.
Speaker 1: Well, yeah, that's that's part of it.
Speaker 4: Yeah, we're kind to make up the congress.
Speaker 1: Why don't we just show up super organized to a
Speaker 1: small town and just tell them we've taken over.
Speaker 5: My high school gym teacher became the mayor and he
Speaker 5: was a stone cold dipship.
Speaker 3: There's no way I couldn't become a mayor.
Speaker 1: Oh you would.
Speaker 4: Yes, mas don't have as much power as like cartoon
Speaker 4: shows like The Simpsons lead us to believe it.
Speaker 5: But what if I, like as the mayor, granted myself
Speaker 5: more power.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think yeah, I think Mike's right and Dan's
Speaker 2: right where it's like, yeah, they on paper, they don't
Speaker 2: have that much power. But if you just keep doing things,
Speaker 2: who's actually going to stop you?
Speaker 1: Eventually?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 4: But it always speared me because every cartoon show the
Speaker 4: mayor was like a significant character.
Speaker 3: Still I don't I don't know who my mayor is right.
Speaker 1: They can't tell me anything.
Speaker 3: The only governors I've ever known were sports maker.
Speaker 2: The pres has more power than a mayor. Definitely.
Speaker 1: Well, okay, do you think if one of us, or
Speaker 1: Dan becomes mayor, he could just for that small town
Speaker 1: make metal gear day.
Speaker 3: He could do that, right, fun, I'm gonna be give
Speaker 3: coach about the key to the city. Yeah, no one
Speaker 3: will show up because it's not popular enough.
Speaker 1: Your day.
Speaker 5: It's mandatory. Everyone has to play it. You can pick
Speaker 5: which one. It has to be one of the mainline
Speaker 5: ones and not tight at at.
Speaker 2: The threat of violence from the state. You will enjoy
Speaker 2: metal gear.
Speaker 1: Sol Dana is gonna become the footloose parents, but with
Speaker 1: anime persona.
Speaker 5: If I was president, I would ban anime. I'm not kidding.
Speaker 5: They're all looking at TikTok and stuff now. I would
Speaker 5: ban anime day one. You enjoy some anime, I mean
Speaker 5: for content. It doesn't I never like on my own
Speaker 5: time watching anime. I'm a grown man.
Speaker 1: Okay, all right, it's been a while since it's twenty
Speaker 1: twenty five. It's a new year, so let's start the
Speaker 1: new year with some beef. This comes from Alex from
Speaker 1: British Columbia, More Beef, h Bomb, sense A Grub and
Speaker 1: the Bomb but teios First Time Long Time I wanted
Speaker 1: to reach out Regarding a late twenty twenty four BombCast.
Speaker 1: I was listening along when conversation turned to focus on
Speaker 1: a member of the gaming industry. Jeff replied derisively, Ugh,
Speaker 1: that guy looks like he does jiu jitsu. Come on, Jeff,
Speaker 1: don't be that way. Jiu Jitsu is easily one of
Speaker 1: the geekiest sports on Earth. You'd love it. My current
Speaker 1: gym is run by the two guys with encyclopedic knowledge
Speaker 1: of horror movies and video games. One of the peak
Speaker 1: professional athletes is sport in the sport is so obsessed
Speaker 1: with Pasta and Star Wars that his fight name is
Speaker 1: Darth Rigatoni. Jiu Jitsu doesn't directly equal the Affliction shirt,
Speaker 1: Joe Rogan pod high value male combo pack. Most of
Speaker 1: us got into the sport because it's weird and fun,
Speaker 1: not to be jerks. There are still some jerks though
Speaker 1: we're we're now Jeff and I have beef. I'm Canadian,
Speaker 1: so that just means I will be marginally less nice
Speaker 1: to him. Shit anyway, you all should try a trial
Speaker 1: class at your local Brazilian jiu jitsu. Jim reporting back
Speaker 1: on that would be a fun segment. Cheers Alex from
Speaker 1: British Columbia.
Speaker 5: All right, grub. You know who who's a cool guy
Speaker 5: that does jiu jitsu and loves it? MVP, one of
Speaker 5: the coolest wrestlers.
Speaker 2: I I yeah, I And you know what, I also
Speaker 2: have had the urge to go do a Brazilian jiu jitsu.
Speaker 2: It seems like a good time. But also then I
Speaker 2: do see it. I'm like, I think I would just
Speaker 2: stand up and walk away, Like these guys are down
Speaker 2: on the ground. I think I would just stand up
Speaker 2: and go in the other direction, and then what would
Speaker 2: they do? So yeah, I would probably be toxic in there.
Speaker 1: I think the worst cell on jiu jitsu has been
Speaker 1: a friend of mine saying, Jude, you got to get
Speaker 1: to JITs with me, bro, and then he just he
Speaker 1: on the hits on the concrete outside of a bar.
Speaker 1: He lays flat on his back. He's like, come bat
Speaker 1: me man, JITs, Dude, I can take you down. Get
Speaker 1: some of this JITs and then I and then I
Speaker 1: just walk away, and I'm like, I do not want
Speaker 1: anything to do with this JITs.
Speaker 4: I had a friend who was learning kra mcgras that's
Speaker 4: real and stuff.
Speaker 3: Yeah, right, self defense, and she was like, I want
Speaker 3: to like show you. I was like all right. She
Speaker 3: was like SOPs, like you have to mount me first,
Speaker 3: and I.
Speaker 1: Was like, nope, I remember doing that.
Speaker 5: I remember when I was on that La Noir trip
Speaker 5: with Rockstar and twenty ten everybody at Rockstar was obsessed
Speaker 5: with Kravma Got and that's all like just whole dinners
Speaker 5: of talking about Krabma.
Speaker 3: God, It's like, all right, yeah, it seems like a lot.
Speaker 3: I had a moment there. Huhah, it was real popular uh.
Speaker 1: Next email comes from Dan from Boston. Does Mike Manaughty
Speaker 1: have neurotic dreams? Yeah, like like Woody Allen dreams, Like
Speaker 1: oh yes, the one neurotic person. That's what you say, neurotic.
Speaker 1: That's what I think of stereotypically.
Speaker 3: I don't know, I'm ever.
Speaker 1: I guess a lot of.
Speaker 4: My dreams are like they are negative in a lot
Speaker 4: of ways. It's just like not like terrible things, but
Speaker 4: kind of bad things, or like I can see minim
Speaker 4: is that like I've wasted my life and I'm a loser.
Speaker 1: Maybe I should get that.
Speaker 4: Look at I feel great in the waking world, but
Speaker 4: my dreams are kind of mean.
Speaker 5: Mine are all like fun and cool, But then I
Speaker 5: do the only negative ones I have really are I
Speaker 5: find myself either in high school or college.
Speaker 2: And someone says PERSONA six is more popular metal gears
Speaker 2: and wake up, sobby.
Speaker 1: No, it's weirdly enough.
Speaker 5: It's a teacher or a school official comes to me
Speaker 5: and it's like you didn't graduate back then, Like I'm
Speaker 5: forty year old me in the dream and they're like
Speaker 5: you didn't, like you have to you have to come
Speaker 5: back and you have like you have to do all
Speaker 5: these classes that you didn't actually do, and like, oh,
Speaker 5: I'm fucked.
Speaker 1: We Travis has started emailing the podcast again, and Travis,
Speaker 1: I'm not quite ready to forgive yet, but I appreciate
Speaker 1: your emails because of not not just two timing US
Speaker 1: triple time in US triple time. So so, Travis, I
Speaker 1: appreciate the emails, and I see that we could start
Speaker 1: to heal.
Speaker 2: But it's gonna take more time.
Speaker 1: It's gonna take some time, it's gonna take some some trust,
Speaker 1: but good old reliable. An email from Nathan from tom Water, Washington.
Speaker 1: Nathan writes in and asks, how do.
Speaker 2: You like to get exercise and short bursts like just
Speaker 2: go hang from something for four seconds and then go
Speaker 2: on with my day.
Speaker 1: That's good.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: I love going to the gym like at like eleven PM,
Speaker 3: and I know, like that's not what I should do.
Speaker 2: Just stand in the parking garage for the first half
Speaker 2: an hour.
Speaker 1: I really enjoy it.
Speaker 4: We don't have parking garage. Maybe that's why I love
Speaker 4: them so much. You're like a rare treat for me
Speaker 4: when I'm in a parking garage.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I know. I like the vibe of like a
Speaker 3: Planet Fitness at like eleven thirty P like Planet Fitness
Speaker 3: because it's Walluigi themed.
Speaker 1: Sure, yeah, it is minus the grunting, the policy that
Speaker 1: they have no yeah, the.
Speaker 3: No lunks or whatever, the lunk alarm.
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, yeah yeah, Walwiji loves lunks.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 5: I during running training, which starts in May, it's just
Speaker 5: a lot of fucking running. But as I get myself
Speaker 5: ready for that, I'm trying to do the morning thing
Speaker 5: every day. So Tuesday's bike, Wednesday's are upper and core,
Speaker 5: Thursday's bike, Friday's run Saturday's legs, Sunday's yoga, and Monday
Speaker 5: is run. So I'm trying to like do a lot
Speaker 5: of cardio, a little bit of muscle stuff, getting the
Speaker 5: legs and core ready for crazy running this year.
Speaker 2: I think my my shoot answer is actually is sports.
Speaker 2: I like to go play basketball, go play soccer or
Speaker 2: something like that if I could, but not a lot
Speaker 2: of time for that these days.
Speaker 1: I do enjoy I've only done it a couple of times,
Speaker 1: but it's not a reliable form of exercise. But I
Speaker 1: do like backpacking because I like the idea of walking
Speaker 1: until I fucking can't anymore, and that's fun. And walking
Speaker 1: was a big one.
Speaker 5: Walking is a good way to like ramp up into
Speaker 5: something like I'm trying to walk fifteen thousand steps a
Speaker 5: day now. Got one of those under desk treadmills things,
Speaker 5: so it's like, yeah, constantly walking.
Speaker 4: Yeah, Before like a big Disney trip, I like to
Speaker 4: get into what I call theme park shape, where like
Speaker 4: like it's almost like what those couch the four K
Speaker 4: things where I start walking a lot more around the
Speaker 4: neighborhood like two months out from the trip, and then
Speaker 4: like I'll do like one lap around the neighborhood and
Speaker 4: after it's like right now two laughs, like now three
Speaker 4: because like otherwise it's rough in those theme parks, especially
Speaker 4: day three standing around.
Speaker 1: Yeah, what's that? Especially without the roids.
Speaker 4: It's not the r the roids hell too. But yeah,
Speaker 4: so yeah, I like to walk to get into theme
Speaker 4: park shape.
Speaker 1: Yeah what, Walking's fun? It's great. God do it like
Speaker 1: a lot? Uh I I uh will before I sign
Speaker 1: up for YouTube Premium. Every time like an AD would
Speaker 1: come on on, like a long form YouTube video, I
Speaker 1: would do ten push ups per AD. So there's there's that. Nice.
Speaker 1: That's good. Nice, Go do push ups, folks. They're goods
Speaker 1: are good.
Speaker 4: They're really hard, but it's because I've always been bigger.
Speaker 4: But like you know, it's like the bigger are the
Speaker 4: harder the push up is. They're really hard.
Speaker 1: Planks.
Speaker 3: Start with some planks, yeahs, get yourself up like a
Speaker 3: minute plank and go to a two minute plank. You know,
Speaker 3: that's good for the core. I'm still planking.
Speaker 1: Is that a thing, not.
Speaker 3: As a like trend, but as an exercise?
Speaker 1: Yes?
Speaker 2: So like planking is when the trend was not doing
Speaker 2: a plank but like being a straight board on a surface.
Speaker 1: Right everything.
Speaker 2: Yeah, now, people aren't doing that. You saw someone doing
Speaker 2: an actual plank the other day and then you said, look,
Speaker 2: the planking's back, and I'm like, wait, what No, that
Speaker 2: they're just exercising.
Speaker 1: Are just upper push ups in the whole Yeah, that
Speaker 1: person wasn't planking either, Mike. They were trying to JITs
Speaker 1: with you.
Speaker 3: I was trying to get some JITs going.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, all right. Final email of the show comes
Speaker 1: from Viv Hey, dudes and due debts. I've been listening
Speaker 1: since the arrow pointing down Days and GB has been
Speaker 1: the podcast soundtrack of my life through good and bad times.
Speaker 1: On the fourth of jan January, my wife performed an
Speaker 1: incredible feat of delivering our sun parentheses, first Kid and Yes.
Speaker 1: During the downtime in labor the Game of the Year
Speaker 1: podcasts or in my ear whilst I played the odd
Speaker 1: bit of Bolotro in Threes on my phone. I got
Speaker 1: two questions, what is the default game that you install
Speaker 1: on your phone, console or PC? Mine would be Threes
Speaker 1: though it is slowly becoming Bolotro Slash Vampire Survivors as
Speaker 1: a new dad? And question number two as a new dad,
Speaker 1: what should I play whilst on leave? When the little
Speaker 1: one is milk trunk love you all, viv from Hinkley, UK.
Speaker 2: Uh yeah, for you're gonna have a lot of time
Speaker 2: to play games with if it's just it's the first
Speaker 2: kid and they're just that little lunk, a little lump
Speaker 2: of fat, which is what they are for the first
Speaker 2: several months, and all they do is eat and poop.
Speaker 2: That is a really good time to play games because
Speaker 2: it turns out you just got to hold them most
Speaker 2: of the time. So play something like big and ambitious
Speaker 2: in that time. That's when I really just went whole
Speaker 2: hog on a Breadth of the Wild because it had
Speaker 2: just come out and they sent a me and sent
Speaker 2: me the console and my like a one month old
Speaker 2: and that was perfect. So something along those lines.
Speaker 3: So it was Daniel Dwyer with Bloodborne. He got into
Speaker 3: blood Born at that time.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah. And then I had the second kid and it
Speaker 2: was a little bit more difficult because now one's asking
Speaker 2: for me to make make them cereal wamps stole on
Speaker 2: the other one. And yet I still beat Sakaro that
Speaker 2: second row that way, So you beat yeah, of course. Gamer.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: As far as the fault game installing your stuff, I
Speaker 2: wish I had like just a little fun physics thing
Speaker 2: out on my phone all the time, and nothing really
Speaker 2: hits the hits the mark for me. So I don't know,
Speaker 2: have you do?
Speaker 3: You have an iPhone or Android?
Speaker 2: I have Android.
Speaker 5: I think you can do something Android. But the Delta
Speaker 5: emulator with Warrior where twisted is incredible? Does it just
Speaker 5: uses the interior like the thing that phone right anyway,
Speaker 5: the accelerometer or.
Speaker 1: Whatever Warrior works, Okay, is incredible.
Speaker 2: That's perfect. That's literally perfect. Okay, I'm going to try that.
Speaker 1: Okay, Yeah, that's that's gotta.
Speaker 2: Work on Android cause the emulation scene is much more
Speaker 2: mature there.
Speaker 5: So yeah, Jacko Delta Emulator, Warrior worre twisted Okay, awesome.
Speaker 5: If Bilotro had like the I guess what was this
Speaker 5: vertical mode? I think I would never stop playing it. Yeah,
Speaker 5: Marvel Snap.
Speaker 1: I haven't gone back into it, but I got it
Speaker 1: ready just in case I got to burst the seal open.
Speaker 1: It's always installed ready, it's always installed, It's always installed,
Speaker 1: ready to go.
Speaker 5: Platro is the first phone game I've played since threes
Speaker 5: I think, and it is definitely a good one to
Speaker 5: just have on there. It's like, Oh, okay, we're just
Speaker 5: sitting on the tarmac for another hour. I guess I'll
Speaker 5: pull out platro.
Speaker 1: Oh ky do key. That about does it. For emails.
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Speaker 1: you everyone for sending your emails to that address. What
Speaker 1: do we learn today? We've learned that oil and water
Speaker 1: don't mix. The second's cool when you want to make
Speaker 1: a sonic game of sorts. Parking garages may possibly be comforting.
Speaker 1: And uh that Jeff Grubb is the leaker of the year. Sure, Also,
Speaker 1: dolphins are pretty cool. It's always good vibes that game's
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Speaker 1: they get on the floor and try and ask you aggressively.
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Speaker 1: What have we got going on? The rest of this week.
Speaker 1: Game mess popping off Wednesday, Thursday and Friday. Correct, Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: it should be all three days this week.
Speaker 2: Back for you guys for the rest of the week
Speaker 2: and have some fun people on there talk about video
Speaker 2: game news.
Speaker 1: Also, Hey, if that.
Speaker 2: Switch to gets revealed, we'll do something at that, yes, yes, oh,
Speaker 2: watch along with that. Yea.
Speaker 5: I will be whipping up the terminator again tomorrow.
Speaker 1: Maybe maybe we'll beat it. We'll see, Yeah, I.
Speaker 2: Think there's a strong chance you do.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 5: And then Friday, big time for charity. We'll be raising
Speaker 5: money for the wildfire relieves for Bowser's Hurry, will be
Speaker 5: several of us racing to beat Bowser's Fury first. And
Speaker 5: I think we've just sided on some stakes where the
Speaker 5: winner will get to give homework assignments to the others
Speaker 5: as far as games to play.
Speaker 1: Yes, yes, yes. Also a friend of the site, our
Speaker 1: dear dear friend, Jesse Fitzali no relation to Young Elmo,
Speaker 1: but Jesse vittally has organized a dream team of folks
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Speaker 1: Los Angeles wildfires relief, and we're going to be embedding
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Speaker 1: you're in a position to donate, please donate there, donate
Speaker 1: later in the week, or even just hang out. Visibility
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Speaker 3: And make them do stupid stuff with your donations.
Speaker 5: I donated last night and I made them play around
Speaker 5: to Smash Brothers where they all had to be warrior
Speaker 5: and the only legal move was farts.
Speaker 3: So you know, here, put them through some shit that
Speaker 3: it'd be slow paced because this farts take it took
Speaker 3: a long time.
Speaker 1: We're gonna have voicemail dump truck popping off later this week.
Speaker 1: We'll find a spot to do BCR as well. Well.
Speaker 1: Because Sean has put the call out for best music
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Speaker 1: a blue Sky thread. Please reply to that with some
Speaker 1: links time stamps if you're going for any potential bangers
Speaker 1: of twenty twenty four, boyos, any other things to talk about,
Speaker 1: to do or whatever.
Speaker 3: I'm playing a Donkey Kong Country game this week on
Speaker 3: my own time.
Speaker 2: That's gonna be fun.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well, I'm going to play that.
Speaker 2: Plenty of games to start talking about here pretty soon
Speaker 2: new games, but for now, yeah, we'll do the coffee
Speaker 2: thing do the tip thing.
Speaker 3: Yeah, seriously, do it, don't work it. Let's say I
Speaker 3: legitimately went.
Speaker 1: To see yes, yes, yes, yes, and I am I
Speaker 1: didn't realize how much footage from last year I have.
Speaker 1: But it's an obscene amount a lot of fun, dumb
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Speaker 2: Everybody.
Speaker 1: I've been Jan, he's been Mike, he's been crabby, he's
Speaker 1: been dead, and you at home have been great. Have
Speaker 1: a fantastic week. We'll see you next week. Four another
Speaker 1: episode of the Giant Podcast. You've showing feet? This man
Speaker 1: showed feet.
Speaker 3: I want to do the ry masterio entrence every time.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's fine, okay, all right? Oh can you do
Speaker 1: like a quick Cody Cody Vader thing? Yeah, okay, okay,
Speaker 1: sweet good music, a dreader, rude grow surpass, annoying smile.
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