Speaker 1: All start, Toyoda presents Off the Bench with Jacob Hester
and Matt Flynn. Let's go, let's go from a championship
backfield to your morning drive.
Speaker 2: Hem'sday. Hester and Hester got at five out a five.
Speaker 1: Your locks in to off the Bench.
Speaker 3: Well scrap control from the Answer.
Speaker 1: Live from the Mercedes Benz of Baton Rouge Studio. Here's
Jacob Hester and Matt Flynn.
Speaker 2: Yo, Welcome in oh t B one oh four five
ESPN Baton Rouge on this Tuesday morning. Jake Flynn, Alandra
Taylor all here with you for the three hours.
Speaker 4: How are we living? How are we doing? Did we
get through Monday?
Speaker 5: Oh man, we are doing really good.
Speaker 4: Good energy in the studio.
Speaker 5: There's a lot of energy, a lot of smiles, a
lot of bright eyes, bushy tails. Monday was was actually
pretty good. It was a good little Monday, nice little Monday, Okay.
I want to hear that often, which kind of sets
up for a pretty nice little week as well. I
told you earlier. Landra came in the studio and she said, Wow,
there's a lot of energy in this room.
Speaker 6: I was grant like greeted with a lot of it.
Speaker 4: I excited to see you.
Speaker 5: We were like we were banging on this table. We're
making a lot of noise of us, of us.
Speaker 6: I'm not imagined.
Speaker 5: I told you that, Like I just made this mental
mental switch. Yes, I don't know if it goes everybody
in life goes through that when you make changes in
your schedule and your routine and your daily habits. But
sometimes you just got to mentally beat things. And uh
I just told myself last night that didn't matter when
I go to bed, don't matter when I go to sleep.
I'm gonna wake up. I want to open my eyes,
put my feet on the ground. Thank the Good Lord
that I got another day. I'm not going to be tired,
just not going to do it. I've been feeling sorry
for myself for the first like hour after awakening starting,
you know, since the beginning of June.
Speaker 4: What changed then just a little bit.
Speaker 5: Uh So I just decided that, you know what, screw it,
just gonna be excited about it. I'm not even going
to be tired. So here we are, and it worked.
Speaker 4: I mean tired just a mindset.
Speaker 5: Yeah, So you just got to beat things sometimes mentally,
just beat it.
Speaker 4: You tell those eyes you stop being puffy, Yep.
Speaker 5: You get to get a little sickness, get a little cold,
beat it, mentally beat it.
Speaker 4: So my dad, you should tell me. Yeah, sickness is
a mindset man, all right.
Speaker 5: Power people, power the mind, power the words.
Speaker 4: So you know, it seems like it worked.
Speaker 5: It did work.
Speaker 4: Good to hear.
Speaker 5: I like your hat.
Speaker 4: Oh thank you. Drink my hut, drink my job. This
hat was not given to me, it was taken.
Speaker 5: Well, that's not true at all.
Speaker 2: You had a box of hats at SEC media day
and I said, I'm gonna need one of them.
Speaker 5: Do you'all have a hat.
Speaker 3: Box, all of you at my high hunt?
Speaker 5: Yeah? I got there in my car. I got them
for y'all.
Speaker 4: Real talk, real talk on air. So I shame you
in front of everybody.
Speaker 5: I do need I do need?
Speaker 4: Uh some of my high from my oldest size, is like, Dad,
I need some of my high. And it's like nine
o'clock and nine I'm like, my guy, I'm not going
to rot.
Speaker 3: Will come with Jake's doorways.
Speaker 4: I was like, I think I'm just gonna h steal
some from coach Matt training camp practice.
Speaker 5: Yeah, what's up with co coach Handy? You gotta put
your season order anybody.
Speaker 4: I hadn't done it yet.
Speaker 5: No, no yet, well now probably waiting for those games.
Speaker 4: You got to keep the kids hydrated.
Speaker 5: Be cuseate.
Speaker 2: It does a nice job over there, he does. Talked
to him yesterday, shout out you high, let's go cups, Landra.
Speaker 5: How we doing.
Speaker 7: I was here maybe less than twelve hours ago. So
I kind of feel like in Severance, where like you
only live the work life, and then when you're at
home you kind of forget the work, and then you
get to work and you're like, oh, I've literally only
been at work like my whole entire life.
Speaker 4: Did you did you watch the you worked AFAR yesterday?
Speaker 6: I did AFR yesterday. What show Severance? Yeah, I watched
some of it, but.
Speaker 7: I started getting in my own head about like it
started like making me think about life too much.
Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, yeah, it was too much for me.
Speaker 5: Yeah. I thought it was gonna be right up my
alley right because I had some friends that really liked it.
Speaker 3: It's not bad, I just couldn't.
Speaker 5: It's not that I couldn't get into it, but it's
the same way it made me like, look right right
too much in my mind.
Speaker 6: I didn't like how much it made me think? So
I was like, vander Pump.
Speaker 4: Rules, rules, forget this thinking thing. Phil.
Speaker 8: Yeah, especially like Taylor, I love Island, especially like when
I get to watch TV, it's like after the kids
had gone to bed, like everything's quiet in the house
for like finally turning my brain off, putting my brain
into like beta mode.
Speaker 6: Just like and thinking is fine.
Speaker 7: I just don't want to have an existential crisis while
I'm trying to relax.
Speaker 5: Big words here on a TV this morning. I agree. So, no,
we didn't watch it.
Speaker 6: No, I watched like maybe two episodes of it, but
it was good.
Speaker 3: I just couldn't do it.
Speaker 7: But yeah, I kind of feel like my Monday has
bled into Tuesday. So it's fine, George.
Speaker 4: Late Show, somebody's got to do it. Might as well
be you as well.
Speaker 5: Today.
Speaker 6: No, but I am doing it tomorrow, all right?
Speaker 4: Yeah, what's Moose do it?
Speaker 6: It's not like this has gone on like three vacations
this summon.
Speaker 2: Other day.
Speaker 4: You can't take vacation and all.
Speaker 3: You so had twenty two vacation days this year or
something like that, So do I He had just saved
up a ton so he took them.
Speaker 5: Wow, I don't know if there's is there a rule
book on vacation days? Yeah, you like baseball unspoken rules.
Speaker 7: I think it's an unspoken rule that during football you
don't go anywhere but baseball.
Speaker 6: I mean, people go wherever.
Speaker 5: The fall is a great time to take a couple.
Is that is gonna last two.
Speaker 3: Weeks week two during football season?
Speaker 5: Amount where you going? We'll figure, No, we're going down.
Speaker 6: We're going to.
Speaker 4: Universal Vision Forge.
Speaker 5: That's sounds fun. Pe gat Burg.
Speaker 6: He goes to Gatlinburg regularly.
Speaker 5: Everybody goes to Gallumber.
Speaker 6: I've never been there, but I would like to.
Speaker 3: Yeah, like Hot Springs, never been to Hot Springs.
Speaker 4: There is no chance you have not been to Hot Springs, Arkansas.
Speaker 3: Never spring.
Speaker 5: We went to Hot Springs, Arkansas last summer. It was great.
You had a great time.
Speaker 9: The only the only time I've ever spent in Arkansas.
Like I've like stayed in the Little Rock overnight if
we're traveling to somewhere else.
Speaker 3: Never like vacationed in Arkansas.
Speaker 5: Went away to Omaha Springs, Arkansas.
Speaker 4: I don't think. I don't know if I've ever vacationed
in Arkansas.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I stayed Inville you've stayed traveling through.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I played in Arkansas, got engaged in Arkansas.
Speaker 5: Lake Hamilton was right in the middle of Hot Springs.
We went and stayed there. U took a little family.
VAK got a little verbos. You don't know verbo not
v r b O. Yeah, that's weird, right, verbos. I've
always just because of the ball game, I've always said
verba because verbo is not a word, but v r
b O makes sense to me. But yeah, we were
in a little v r b O right there Lake Hamilton,
and uh, you know, a little party bars with the kids,
the a little tube. I love a party. Oh yeah, nice,
a little puton, little pon ice.
Speaker 2: Cream, little pond tuon parlay coming back here. I don't
screw it up, Flynn.
Speaker 5: Oh I won't.
Speaker 7: I feel like there was like three weeks where I
was on a heater last and then Bob we like
there was like again three weeks where he was.
Speaker 3: The only one that.
Speaker 2: Three straight weeks three four where something we all three
hit in his his pick of like cal Stanford always missed.
Speaker 5: So are there rules? It's like any anything goes any
any any game, But we don't.
Speaker 6: I don't think we ever do L s U in it?
Speaker 5: Do we?
Speaker 7: No?
Speaker 5: I don't.
Speaker 4: I don't remember us ever doing L rule.
Speaker 5: We just don't do it.
Speaker 3: I mean we didn't.
Speaker 5: Like let's make it a rule now Week one, you
cover comes into my pick?
Speaker 4: Do you know the spread?
Speaker 5: Nope? Do you care care? I don't care. That's gonna
be your pick if we're underdogs money line.
Speaker 4: Yeah, all right, I can get behind that any reasoning.
Speaker 5: Yeah, because we're gonna win.
Speaker 10: Uh.
Speaker 5: That's because we're gonna get incredible safety play in interior
defensive line play. We're gonna keep kid klub Nick in
the pocket. We're gonna pick him off at least two times.
He's gonna get some he's gonna get his, but he's
gonna have at least two turnovers and under under fifty
yards Russian no, under forty yards Russian No.
Speaker 6: In the house.
Speaker 4: You feel like you got inside info over there the
way you.
Speaker 5: Just I do. I broke down two whole games of
his last.
Speaker 4: Year, SMU and one of the other ones at South Carolina.
Speaker 5: Oh, yes, South Carolina, SMU. Oh, who who do we
say I was gonna do next?
Speaker 2: DJ Lagway Yeah, DJ Lagway got it because he will
be like the first quarterback after k Clubnick for L
s U that people have heard of. You know, you
play tech in Southeastern Not being disrespectful, but you're playing
Kate Clubnick and DJ Lagway to your first four games.
Speaker 5: All right, when do you want to do this?
Speaker 4: You gotta put a deadline, deadline on it into the
end of the week.
Speaker 3: We gave you into the week last timer.
Speaker 6: I think it was Friday last all right, little Friday.
Speaker 5: You'd be breaking coming at you Friday.
Speaker 4: This Friday. Oh all right, the fifteenth, right, fifteenth Friday.
Speaker 6: He's like already had brain space occupied for this Friday.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I think you should watch.
Speaker 4: For Lagway.
Speaker 2: I would say the Georgia game where he got injured
if he doesn't gets real interesting. Uh, the L s
U game, certainly, And that was very impressive the way.
Speaker 5: He let me ask you this. Do I think the
DJ Hagway is a little injury prone and we were
injury prone to thing? Yeah, for sure? Is it just
bad luck? For sure?
Speaker 9: You were talking about it yesterday a little bit, right,
like he missed all of spring. He kind of battled
through an injury last year. Now he has another one.
Speaker 5: Yeah, my half right, Yeah, My theory on this, the
people like their bodies mature at different times. I think
DJ might be a little bit victim of growing a lot,
like real fast and just not like you know when
like you're you're growing, like things hurt, things get injured
a little bit more like I think he might just
be in that period of time where man, he he is.
He looks the part. He's tall, he's big, he's got
a baby face. I think he just might not be
His body just might not have caught up with him completely. DJ.
Speaker 4: He does what kind of baby face?
Speaker 5: He's definitely a baby face, But like I feel like
his body just grew so fast and like everything else
has to kind of catch with it.
Speaker 2: I told the story like im media day. He walked
in and I forget who asked him, like, dude, how
I think it was Dusty. He's like, how tall are you?
Speaker 7: Go?
Speaker 2: Six three and then goes no, You're like you're touching
six five at least. He's like, well, I had measures
since high school. No, But like I think he's grown also,
I'm what I'm saying, I think he's continuing to grow,
like right now.
Speaker 5: Because you don't measure once you get to college they
don't measure you. I just think he's because you see.
Speaker 4: That with the program five to ten.
Speaker 5: In your heart, people grow a lot there, like skeletons,
they bones grow, but the ligaments and muscle everything's got
to catch up. So at that point people are a
little bit more injury prone for soft tissue injuries things
like that.
Speaker 4: Because he's a tough kid. It's not toughness.
Speaker 5: It's not that at all.
Speaker 4: Like when I watch you warm up before they played LSU,
like he was going through some real pain, but like
he had tape everywhere.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and like different, like he had the thera band
on his hamstring like he was going to play in
that game.
Speaker 4: But yeah, it is.
Speaker 2: I mean he had a shoulder all off season. Now
he's got a calf in training camp. And let me
tell you, fifteen is where Florida came in on the
AP Top twenty five.
Speaker 5: And we'll get their next segment fifteen.
Speaker 2: If he ain't in the game, they are not the
fifteenth best team in the country. If he is, we
can certainly have that conversation he's that good. But if
he's not, and if he misses some time, god, Liz,
it is not good.
Speaker 4: In Gainesville.
Speaker 5: If he's out and I got the fifteenth pick of
our OTB Top twenty five, there's no way I'm ever
their names coming out of my mouth.
Speaker 4: Well, we'll talk about your love.
Speaker 7: Maybe they can't.
Speaker 5: Maybe they can't. Oh, a little foreboding, foreboding, foreshadowing.
Speaker 7: I've seen DJ Logway without his helmet on, and that's
not what I thought.
Speaker 5: He looked like I agree with you saw him.
Speaker 4: Like that, But he's only a true off.
Speaker 3: He's like, that's thirteen in that picture.
Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, didn't have us talking about the Florida
Gators on the bingo card you're in the segment, but
you know, yeah there was, there was, and Elijah Haven
might be leaning towards the Gators that came out yesterday.
Speaker 5: Here's my question, where do where do these rivers come from?
Speaker 4: Who trains him?
Speaker 7: Wait, that's actually a good question though, because like how
do they come up with like the projected Yeah, like
how do they just.
Speaker 2: It's just whoever the person that works for I guess
only three is kind of the they got rivals now
too or two four seven. They just create a relationship
with the player, with the parents, with the siblings, with
the uncles, and they just try to get information, So
tell me, like where is he leaning, where is he
looking at?
Speaker 4: How do you like that visit?
Speaker 2: And then they get all the information and then they
get to a point where they're like, you know what
crystal ball prediction?
Speaker 5: Yeah, And I think it's so stupid. I did, like
these people think they have a relationship with like a
third cousin of somebody, like the kids sixteen years old.
He's been in his junior of high school for like
one day. Yeah, and you talk to I don't know
who you talk to, right, but like a third cousin
that said, oh, he had a good visit somewhere, And
all of a sudden, you're gonna drop some click bait,
stupid article that's gonna say that you're leaning somewhere. Get
out of here with that. That goes for anybody. I'm
it's dumb. Yeah, all right, let's go get some clicks,
let's get some followers. How about that? And other people
then other people retweet it and post it. I it's news.
Don't give these people anytime. It's dumb.
Speaker 2: You just you know, if Elijah goes to Florida, like
we're never letting you live, then he might even though
you had nothing to do with it. Might.
Speaker 4: We're gonna make it feel like you had everything to.
Speaker 5: Do with it.
Speaker 3: Breaking Matt tells.
Speaker 4: To go to Florida. He does the gator chomp with him.
I left over right? Is that what we got told?
Immediate day?
Speaker 5: Left right? Right over left?
Speaker 4: He's left over matter? Yes, it matters. I got told it, Matt.
Speaker 3: Wait, which one did they do the gators?
Speaker 2: Is?
Speaker 5: Leftover right?
Speaker 3: Okay, then I'm going to do right over left. I
gotta be that guy.
Speaker 4: Typical tailor, typical taste.
Speaker 5: Oh my gosh.
Speaker 4: Uh yeah, the gator chomp is cool when you're doing
it mocking.
Speaker 6: Them for sure, you're like it sucks.
Speaker 4: That was crazy. Yeah, that's my That's my favorite ever
L s U game. I told you all that game?
Speaker 2: Which one nineteen L s U Florida at home beat them?
He didn't lose a game. Then did we do the
leftover right? I don't know, yeah, one of my favorite players.
A little switch route between Clyde and jamar On the
loved it sexy touch down.
Speaker 5: Go Tigers? All right?
Speaker 2: When we come back, there is a AP top twenty
five that did just drop. Where does LSU find themselves
where or LSU's opponents.
Speaker 5: Well, they're everywhere.
Speaker 2: They are literally everywhere in the ap Top twenty five
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Speaker 2: The AP did drop their top twenty five. Remember we
got the coaches poll a couple of weeks ago, and
for a large majority, certainly of the top fourteen teams.
It's identical now some changes towards the top and the
AP pole compared to the coaches pole.
Speaker 4: In the coaches poll.
Speaker 2: Texas, Ohio State, Penn State, Georgia, Notre Dame the top
five in the AP poll Texas, Penn State, Ohio State, Clemson, Georgia.
Texas receives twenty five first place votes, Penn State twenty three,
Ohio State eleven, Clemson for Georgia one. Also, Oregon got
an AP first place vote. They come in at number seven.
Notre Dame is right before them at number six. It
is Alabama eight, LSU at nine, Miami at ten. Seven
All the way through fourteen is the exact same from
the Coaches poll. In the AP pole again seven through fourteen, Oregon, Alabama, LSU, Miami,
Arizona State, Illinois, South Carolina, Michigan. After that, in the
AP pole, the Florida Gators come in at fifteen. They
were seventeen in the Coaches Poll SMU sixteen in both
Kansas State seventeen and the AP twenty in the coaches.
Oklahoma not ranked in the Coach's poll. They come in
at number eighteen in the AP Top twenty five.
Speaker 4: And I'm okay with that. And here's why I'm okay
with it.
Speaker 2: Okay, Oklahoma schedule is brutal, and we'll get to schedule
because lshues it's it's I mean, it's not maybe as brutal,
but it's pretty close.
Speaker 4: But this is the preseason rankings. This isn't the final.
Speaker 2: Rankings, and so I'm not going to base my thought
process on your team based off what your schedule might
look like.
Speaker 1: Like.
Speaker 4: Think about like Florida last year.
Speaker 2: Do you think any Florida fan thought they were going
to beat LSU Ole Miss in Florida State to end
the season at the beginning, at the beginning of the year,
before we knew Florida State was garbage.
Speaker 5: No, No, they thought they'd have an interim coach.
Speaker 4: I think we all did.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Okay, so like that's why I'm not going to
base schedule on a preseason ranking. I think Oklahoma does
have one of the top eighteen rosters in college football.
I truly do. Like, I think they're that kind of team. Now,
you could make it for debate. Maybe it's twenty second,
but it's close. And so a lot of people were like,
how's Oklahoma in there?
Speaker 4: They weren't even in the coaches pole.
Speaker 2: Well, because I feel like the coaches, the sids who
actually fill out the coaches pole, I feel like they
were looking at their schedule and not what the roster
actually looks like.
Speaker 4: Now, if we had had some.
Speaker 2: Information about their quarterback and we'll get to the John
Matier stuff and how true it might be or might
not be. But Oklahoma at eighteen, a lot of people
are up in arms. I got no problem with the
Sooners being eighteen.
Speaker 5: Yeah, the I guess the only way looking at Oklahoma
because I was thinking about placing them in ours at
some point, just because I think the uh, the potential
there for John Mattier's there. But I think we got
a little John Matier news yesterday.
Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, I mean, like I think that's still all
got to get vetted. Yeah, that's all, and we look
that's like the that's like a perfect OTV story. Yeah,
So trust me when I say we're going to talk
about that in his VEMO transactions allegedly allegedly.
Speaker 5: Uh yeah. I just I think that the head coach
is just kind of the big question mark here and
can he do they have the ability to get their
offense going, even with a guy that's a proven playmaker,
a dangerous guy like Jometier, can they get it going?
You know, bottom tier of the SEC last year out there,
and there are a lot of Oklahoma's, a lot of
people's sleeper picks in the SEC. I think that's the
sexy pick for people like people in media to say
when they're talking about sleeper picks and SEC Oklahoma, Oklahoma
because of the intrigue John Mattier, and I think a
lot of that ranking probably lies within that man's right
arm and legs. So I think that's I mean, that's
the that's the reason, that's the reason behind it. So
I like it. I think that I'm excited to watch
him play. I'm excited to break him down to when
we get to that part portion of the season.
Speaker 2: Texas A and M comes in at nineteen the AP,
they were twenty one in the Coaches Indian at twenty
they were nineteen in the Coaches Ole Miss at twenty one,
and they were fifteen in the Coaches Poul So not
as much love for Old Miss and the AP top
twenty five. Ioa State comes in at twenty two. They
were twenty one, Texas Tech twenty three, they were twenty four,
Tennessee twenty four, they were eighteen, So kind of Old
Miss and Tennessee not getting as much.
Speaker 4: Love and the apeople.
Speaker 2: And actually agree more with ap Pole than I do
with the Coaches poll I think with those two teams
right now. Boise State comes in at twenty five on
both polls, So look, we're gonna get to the obviously
like the LSU portion and spend the most time on the.
Speaker 4: LSU portion of this.
Speaker 2: But outside of LSU, some of my biggest takeaways, I
would say Clemson being in the top five is right,
them not being in the top five and the Coaches
poll was wrong. They're a top five team in the country.
That's what makes that matchup so intriguing. With LSU in
a week number one. Also, who did Georgia Tech hurt
to not get more love? They hurt somebody somewhere, not
sure who it was, but they're about to hurt some people.
It must have been pretty egregious. And what else does
Missouri have to do to get some national respect?
Speaker 5: What do they?
Speaker 4: I mean, what do they have to do?
Speaker 5: I don't know? Not being Missouri.
Speaker 4: They've won double digit games the last two years.
Speaker 2: I know they beat Ohio State and a Cotton Bowl like,
and I mean I'm not joking, Like, what what do
they have to do? Like the thought process that Flynn has,
it's the one I think a lot of people have.
Speaker 5: It's like you, there's nothing for me, There's nothing they
can do.
Speaker 4: Why, Like you wouldn't even acknowledge them as an SEC
team for like ten years.
Speaker 5: I still don't. They're independent, right? You the problem? It's you?
I have the problem. I agree, and I hay hand
in the air me and I'm okay with it.
Speaker 2: Also, my other big takeaway of the AP really a
coaches top ten.
Speaker 4: Let's just go the AP.
Speaker 2: Forget the coaches AP top twenty five, the number one,
the number three, the number five, the number six, the
number seven, and the number eight teams in the country
are starting a new quarterback for the first time, it'd
be a full time starter.
Speaker 5: Now, how do we feel about Texas being one in
both of these polls?
Speaker 3: It's the talent around the quarterback position. I mean, they're
kind of loaded everywhere else.
Speaker 2: They're running backs are back healthy, They've got better receivers
than people think. Now tight end is going to be
a little bit of a question. The defense, They've got
maybe the best linebacker in the country. They've got Michael
Taff back at safety. Both you know, Anthony Hill Junior
and Michael Taff been on every All American list. I
understand a lot of the love, but like one of
the things that's hard for me to understand the number two, four, nine,
and ten teams in the country half.
Speaker 4: Quarter back set.
Speaker 2: Everybody knows who they are, Everybody kind of has seen
them do it on a big stage in college football before.
Speaker 4: And how is that going to match up with each other?
Speaker 2: Is it going to be half the team to have
the unproven guy or the other has to have the
proven guy that maybe don't have as much talent And
the totality of the roster.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean having a returning quarterback is such an advantage,
especially when you're trying to predict what's going to happen.
It's unpredictable what a team's going to look like without
a quarterback. You can you can you can make assumptions,
you can watch practice, you can say this guy's a
he's got five stars by his name. You can make
all it. And that's the beauty of college football, right
because you get four years of eligibility. If it's COVID,
you might get like eight or nine, but it's you
should get four years of eligibility, so people leave. There's
always going to be question marks on these preseason polls.
So for there to be three teams, like you said,
in the top ten, it does question like why are
they like to me, why is l she ranked behind Alabama?
You can make the argument for you know, Oregon, Notre Dame,
of course, Georgia Clemson to be ahead of them, but
like Alabama to me is the one that I'm like, okay,
why why would they be ranked higher? And then for
people to sit here and say Texas won Ohio State
three on a preseason poll, which in Week one, Texas
plays Ohio State, so basically they're saying they're predicting Texas
is going to win that game, right, and Texas is
not going to win that game.
Speaker 6: I think they're the underdog.
Speaker 2: Well it's not according to these polls, right if Alauna,
to your point, I think they actually might be.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think you're right on that.
Speaker 2: Believe two and a half point favorite, so you know,
three points home team, whatever. But still the Buckeyes are
two and a half point favorite. It opened it two
and a half and it's living right now.
Speaker 5: Well, the AP doesn't care because they're saying, based on
this pole that Texas winning that game. Reading that correctly,
is that a proper assumption? You're one hundred percent correct.
Speaker 9: And to your point, like we were saying, oh the
talent around arch Manning, is Ohio State not have better
talent than Texas? I don't know. They got the best
offensive player and defensive player in the country.
Speaker 5: What does Ohio State have to do to be ranked
number one in a preseason But I know preseason we're
talking a lot about it, and as players we made
fun of preseason polls, right because they don't mean anything,
they're dumb, But like, what do they have to do
to be ranked number one? They're both have a new quarterback,
they won a national championship, they have the talent, so
Ryan Day, they're the favorite, that the betting favorite to
win opening game against Texas. But the AP is telling
us the coaches poll or the sid pole is telling
us that text they think Texas is going to win
the first game, if they did, if they didn't, If
they're looking at the schedule to rank these teams, what
do they They're not saying, Okay, Ohio State's going to
beat them in Week one, but there's still the third
ranked team in Texas is one.
Speaker 3: I just I hate to be this guy because I
think he is going to be a really good play.
Speaker 9: He's gonna be No, I think he's going to be
a really good player.
Speaker 3: But if you switch to Arch Manning and Julian saying,
what Ohio.
Speaker 9: State be number one, because I think they would one
would be almost five, there's your answer.
Speaker 5: It's the Manning effect. They might be Super Bowl favorites.
It is.
Speaker 9: And every time you say it's because his name is
Arch Manning, people think you're hating on him. I like Arch,
but like that's the reality Julian saying is not a
Manning there's your answer, because I think I State's.
Speaker 2: Better, just saying I know we gotta go to break
Clemson right now, four and a half point favorite.
Speaker 4: I can tell us you you're saying earlier.
Speaker 7: Yeah, I'm with you on like Bamas, Like, why is
Bama ranked ahead of Yeah?
Speaker 9: I don't understand that you find me a proven big
time weapon outside of Ryan Wilson Williams Williams. Like somebody's
gonna say, have Miller's fine, it's seven hundred yards that yours?
Speaker 5: Fine. But to your point, if you're if you're voting
on a preseason and you're putting, how what what are
the qualifications of pen Alabama? A spot ahead of LSU
and by quarterback position might be great for them, But
you don't know. This is a preseason rank. We know
we know what LSU has, yeah, and it's pretty darn
good and everybody else does too. So I don't know
what the rankings are based on.
Speaker 4: But that's why we live by the off the bench OTB.
Speaker 5: That's what you should everybody should.
Speaker 2: You're the only correct, it's the only one that you
should actually listen to out there. All right, we do
need to take a break when we come back we'll
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Speaker 1: Com, Tigers turn Talkers. This is off the bench, stood.
Speaker 5: Game so much time?
Speaker 2: Westay, okay, okay, all right, welcome back, Gano. You be
one oh four five ESPN Beton Rouge here on this
Tuesday morning.
Speaker 4: Chill out, Lenny, Chill out, ch chill, chill, save some,
save some of the rest of us.
Speaker 2: LSU is going to play the number four team in
the AP top twenty five, the number eighteen in the
top twenty Fiveumber thirteen, the number fifteen, the number eighteen,
the number nineteen, number twenty one.
Speaker 4: Am I missing somebody here?
Speaker 10: No?
Speaker 5: You you list it off in a lot of numbers already. Yeah,
so yeah, that's enough.
Speaker 2: Number four, number eight, number thirteen, number fifteen, number eighteen,
number nineteen, number twenty one.
Speaker 5: Is there anybody in the top I'm not even gonna
say ten. Let's say the top nine that has a
shot to finish the season outside the top twenty five,
top nine, mm outside of the top what twenty five
that has a chance to do what finish outside of
the top twenty five. Can we go top ten because
you want to go to Miami?
Speaker 2: Well, top ten is always a conversation.
Speaker 4: That's why, because everybody there's always one. Now, I wouldn't
say Miami.
Speaker 5: Easier schedule.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think Carson Beck is gonna be fine there.
Oh this is gonna be a hot take. Maybe Notre
Dame and I don't believe.
Speaker 2: I don't believe that they're going to But if you
ask me, just because like j Carr quarterback, I don't.
I don't know any like Jeremiah Love is the best
running back in the country, So that's that's great to have.
But man, they lost a lot of core pieces from
that team. And I'm not talking about just like talent.
I'm talking about leadership like Xavier Watson defense. It's hard
to replace a guy like that, Riley Leonard on offense.
Like this thing was playing for a national championship a
year ago. I'm not saying they're gonna fall off a
cliff but if you ask me, I don't. I don't
think any other team and Miami.
Speaker 4: Because of because they got the quarterbacks figured out.
Speaker 5: It's a it's a clickbait formatted question certainly, like it's
just we're just talking here. Who do you think could
go off and lose lose four games out of this?
Speaker 4: It would be Notre Dame.
Speaker 5: Would be Notre Dame. And I do believe in what
Mark like the program Marcus Freeman has built over there
and kind of the culture. I think it makes them
a little bit not not bulletproof, but like bulletproof to
having a down year to retract all the way back
and have you know, four or five lost season. But
I kind of hope they do. Because I'm not a
Notre Dame fan. I will be as soon as they
join a conference, so so you'll never be. I'll never be.
I mean, I want to like their gold helmets, I
want to like their uniforms, the traditions. I just can't
do it because there are a bunch of whimps.
Speaker 4: Yeah, Rudy's overrated.
Speaker 5: Rudy is definitely overrage. Just ask his teammates. Nobody liked them.
Speaker 2: So Notre Dame schedule, They did not put jerseys on
the coach's desk. Yeah, Joe Montana spilled the beans on
that their schedule at Miami to open up the season,
So I guess that does answer the question.
Speaker 4: Will it be Miami, uh, Texas.
Speaker 2: A and M at home, Purdue at Arkansas, Boise stay
at home, n C State, USC at home, at Boston College,
Navy at home at pitt Syracuse at home, and at Stanford.
Speaker 5: Okay, all right, Taylor, what do you think gotta pick one?
Speaker 4: I've never heard you silent like that.
Speaker 5: He didn't think anybody top nine, Top nine outside of
Notre Dame.
Speaker 3: Gets Texas Alabama to Alabama.
Speaker 4: The top twenty five.
Speaker 9: If I can't pick Utter Dame, yeah, because of the
quarterback situation. I mean, last time we tall Sulti Simpson
wasn't good. That was two years ago. It was little
to no experience. Like Ryan Williams is a stud. Everybody's
gonna say, well, they can lean on their running game. Sure,
but Jaylen Milroad was the biggest part of your running
game and he's gone. Like jam Miller was good, he
wasn't great. Jeremy Bernard was a really solid player. He's
gonna have to step up. I mean, I just there's
question marks on that offense. I don't think they're going
to But if I can't pick Notre Dame, that's the answer.
Speaker 4: Alandra, You can pick somebody that has already.
Speaker 7: Been chosen here, So I want to give maybe even
like a hotter one than Notre Dame.
Speaker 5: Come on, let's go.
Speaker 6: I kind of agree with Notre Dame, but.
Speaker 10: I'm gonna go.
Speaker 4: Yeah. I thought about them.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I'm gonna go with the Oregon.
Speaker 4: I think they've built something pretty. Does he west where
he meant's wife?
Speaker 6: He's got a tattoo of its great it.
Speaker 2: Is blueman onion, geez fecial. Everybody cook a sartoin.
Speaker 4: Dante Moore quarterback, Yeah, I was gon.
Speaker 2: If he does win that job, there's a lot of
people and e J and I argued about this yesterday.
He's like, yeah, they got Dante More. I'm like, okay,
he started like three or four games for U C.
Speaker 4: L A and was kind of mid.
Speaker 2: I appreciate that he sat a year behind Dylan Gabriel
kind of humbled himself a little bit and wanted to learn.
That's cool, but we don't know, like, just because he
started doesn't mean they were good starts.
Speaker 4: In fact, they weren't. They were kind of middle of
the road.
Speaker 7: So again, do you as well last year as I
thought they were going to.
Speaker 4: Do you're talking about the playoff because the way ohiost
they beat them.
Speaker 2: I mean, they were so good up until that point though,
they were the only undefeated team, and then Ohio State
just thrashed or to beat him twice. Man shout out
to holdmeo inside to buy you four chat. He says
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Speaker 6: I still got the hookup.
Speaker 4: I would love I would love to hear dev give
the outback specials. In his accent, doubt.
Speaker 6: Bread is so good.
Speaker 4: It's so good.
Speaker 5: That'd be a lot of the team that I think
has the if if we're gonna pick, and I think
it happens every year, so we also I doubt, I
doubt anybody is going to finish outside the top. He's
a pretty good team.
Speaker 4: I know, but it happens every year.
Speaker 5: I would I'm gonna hang my hat on the Georgia Bulldogs.
Speaker 4: Whoa whoa.
Speaker 5: Got to hang it out on somebody. I'm not going
to repeat anything I went forth here.
Speaker 7: I know.
Speaker 5: I don't believe in Gunner Stockton day there it is.
It's not that it's like I thought. He didn't bring
much much juice sec media days. I didn't have a
lot of the moxie that you looked for.
Speaker 4: Yeah, didn't have any Jonathan Moxin.
Speaker 5: Doesn't have any john That Moxin.
Speaker 7: An insane hairline for an insane hairline for that's genetics.
Speaker 5: It's not his fault, genetics.
Speaker 4: I know him and brought.
Speaker 6: Genetics genetics throwing a football.
Speaker 5: He came in last year, do a little bit of
a change up and looked good at some times. But
I think a lot of the plays that he made
were like I'm not gonna say about acting like they
were off schedule plays that the guy was open, like
he made the plays he needed to and it was
a little bit change up and looked good, but it wasn't.
He didn't do anything on rhythm, on schedule, on anything, Like,
he didn't go through reads, say check down. So like look,
let's uh, hey, I'm gonna do I think they'll come
out now. But we're playing a little game here.
Speaker 2: Yeah, the old old OTB hot take machine. Flenn's going
with Georgia, I'm going with Notre Dame, Linders going with
the Oregon, and is going with Alabama.
Speaker 6: Is probably most likely.
Speaker 4: I remember we had to choose a team, and I'm gonna.
Speaker 6: Start writing all these downs yeah.
Speaker 5: So what I want to do this year this season, Like,
I want competition this run, I want hot take competition.
Like we're probably gonna not get many right, It's fine,
but you know what I'm When somebody gets one right,
we're gonna celebrate it, all right.
Speaker 3: I think I want to have I think Jake's got
the best outs on this one.
Speaker 5: I agree with he went first.
Speaker 3: But I just I just really like the Notre Dame.
Speaker 4: I could you took Miami off the board, so didn't
you kind of go.
Speaker 5: To No, I didn't choose Miami because everybody would have chosen,
because no, we all went different. I know we did.
Everybody would have chosen.
Speaker 4: I don't know that I would have I think, I said,
I think it's just him.
Speaker 5: Wait, you don't like what Marcus Freeman?
Speaker 1: Do you?
Speaker 2: I love Marcus Freeman, apparently not played against him. Got
a lot of respect for him. Say something for the
rest of us. But I just think miamis schedule. It's
Notre Dame, the Thune, Cookman, South Florida.
Speaker 5: I don't know.
Speaker 4: We gotta take a break for long for it.
Speaker 3: We'll do it to be off the bench.
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Speaker 2: But when we come back, we are going to give
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I believe Tata's up number sixteen.
Speaker 4: Who's it gonna be? Is he gonna give Michigan some love?
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