Speaker 1: It's night with y I'm telling you easy Boston's video.
Speaker 2: Thanks very much, Dan Watkins appreciated. Hey, look, there's a
Speaker 2: little bit of a news story. I want to mention.
Speaker 2: We're going to come back to this in a moment,
Speaker 2: I promise. We are asking the question about whether or
Speaker 2: not the romance between Donald Trump, President Donald Trump and
Speaker 2: Elon Musk is over. Elon Musk is now called Donald
Speaker 2: Trump's Big Beautiful Bill a disgusting abomination. So I can't
Speaker 2: figure this one out again. I think both of these
Speaker 2: gentlemen probably have some very big egos, and they worked
Speaker 2: pretty well together for several months, really for most of
Speaker 2: a year, but the situation seems to have in the
Speaker 2: last few days ended rather abruptly. Anyway, before we get
Speaker 2: back to that, and if you'd like to comment, just
Speaker 2: dial in six one seven, two, five four, ten thirty
Speaker 2: and we have one line at six one seven, nine
Speaker 2: three one ten thirty. I just wanted to mention, and
Speaker 2: I want to keep this a secret between all of us. Okay,
Speaker 2: my good friend and colleague Jordan Rich, who all of
Speaker 2: you know and have known for many years on WBC Radio,
Speaker 2: has been dealing with a little bit of a bump
Speaker 2: in the road medically, and he's doing well. He used
Speaker 2: to be able to stay up kind of late and
Speaker 2: oftentimes would sit in to host nightside when I was
Speaker 2: called away to do other things, whether they were family activities, vacations,
Speaker 2: et cetera. But for those of you who know Jordan,
Speaker 2: he has a birthday on Friday, and I thought that
Speaker 2: it would be great if some of you in my
Speaker 2: audience would be kind enough to send him just a
Speaker 2: birthday greeting. Again. He is still part of the WBZ team.
Speaker 2: He still does all of the different reports that you
Speaker 2: hear throughout the week at New England Weekend and Connoisur's
Speaker 2: Corner and so many of the great presentations that Jordan does.
Speaker 2: He doesn't sit in and do my show anymore. And
Speaker 2: some people have said, hey, what's going on with Jordan.
Speaker 2: You know a little bit of a little bump in
Speaker 2: the road medically here and he's dealing with it and
Speaker 2: he's staying strong and all of that and those of
Speaker 2: you who are familiar with it. But on Friday, it's
Speaker 2: his birthday. So here is his direct email. And for
Speaker 2: those of you out there wherever you are, whether you're
Speaker 2: down in North Carolina or Texas. You've heard from all
Speaker 2: the different locations that are listening to us tonight. Earlier
Speaker 2: we talked with New Hampshire and as they say, New
Speaker 2: Hampshire's always out there, and as they say, San Antonio,
Speaker 2: I know we have listeners in Florida, Rhode Island. Why
Speaker 2: don't you send him, if you'd be so kind, just
Speaker 2: a happy birthday wish, just hey, you know, missing your
Speaker 2: night side or whatever, you know, whatever you want to say,
Speaker 2: happy Birthday'm not going to tell you how young Jordan is,
Speaker 2: but he's very young, at least from my perspective. And
Speaker 2: his direct email is and this is right to him,
Speaker 2: Jordan j O R d A N. Everybody knows how
Speaker 2: to spell Jordan, and his company is Chartproductions dot com.
Speaker 2: So it's Jordan at chart Productions dot com, c h
Speaker 2: A r T like Chart Productions p R O d
Speaker 2: U c T I O n s dot com. Jordan
Speaker 2: at Chartproductions dot com. And any of you who did
Speaker 2: not get that email, Rob, I'm sure you were quick
Speaker 2: enough to write that down and people call and get
Speaker 2: that email from you, and you know, give him a
Speaker 2: little happy birthday wish sometime tomorrow. The birthday is actually
Speaker 2: on Friday. Okay, if you want to wait until Friday,
Speaker 2: that's okay. But that's just you know, a little bit
Speaker 2: of good wishes. I think that will cost us. It
Speaker 2: won't cost you anything, just a few seconds of your day,
Speaker 2: and I know Jordan would appreciate it immensely and I
Speaker 2: would be indebted to you as well for doing that. Okay,
Speaker 2: we're talking about the Elon Musk Donald Trump romance. Romance?
Speaker 2: Is it over? That's the question? See what you think?
Speaker 2: Some people say yes, some people say no. We're going
Speaker 2: to go next to Bob in Rhode Island. Hey Bob,
Speaker 2: I'm sure it's warm in Rhode Island tonight.
Speaker 3: Hey Bob, how are you warm everywhere?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 3: Well, particularly happy birthday, Jordan Rich second gay broadcasting voice.
Speaker 3: I enjoyed living listening to you overnight on the weekends
Speaker 3: for years. Well, I hope you making some speedy recovery.
Speaker 2: And again, as I say, if you get a chance,
Speaker 2: it's Jordan at Chart Productions dot Com, and I think
Speaker 2: he'd love to hear from. So, Bob, is is the
Speaker 2: the Trump Elon Musk romance? Is it over?
Speaker 3: Yes? It certainly is. And Avon Musk has only done
Speaker 3: something right, and now.
Speaker 2: Will will he be welcomed back with open arms by
Speaker 2: folks like you, you know, the folks of the left.
Speaker 2: And I think you're kind of on the left side
Speaker 2: of the political spectrum.
Speaker 3: On the left side. You're right.
Speaker 2: It is all forgiven now and is Jordan is is
Speaker 2: Elon now welcomed back?
Speaker 3: Absolutely?
Speaker 2: That's wonderful.
Speaker 3: That's and I got a few more things. Can I
Speaker 3: say a few more things?
Speaker 2: Absolutely? You have I ever cut you off?
Speaker 3: Come on, Bob, go ahead, No you haven't. Then you
Speaker 3: know what happened one for one thing w p R
Speaker 3: ro in Providence. Okay, he bumped me.
Speaker 2: So this is night side and and you're a fine caller,
Speaker 2: So go ahead say what you like. If it's related
Speaker 2: to Trump and Musk, fine, if not, go ahead say
Speaker 2: what you like.
Speaker 3: Well, I know that Trump's bankrupt six times. I don't
Speaker 3: think Elon Musk has never been bankrupt.
Speaker 2: Nobody. He did take some financial hits earlier this year.
Speaker 2: Go ahead, Yeah, he's.
Speaker 3: Got he's got more money about him.
Speaker 2: He's got more money.
Speaker 4: I want to high.
Speaker 2: Elon has more money than you and me together.
Speaker 3: Well, maybe he's got more money than me. I don't
Speaker 3: know about you.
Speaker 2: I think both of us go ahead and.
Speaker 4: Go ahead.
Speaker 3: Uh yeah, I'm thinking.
Speaker 2: Okay, well, don't spend too much Trump.
Speaker 3: Once again, Trump was going to stop the bar in
Speaker 3: Ukraine on his first day in office. I don't think so,
Speaker 3: not yet.
Speaker 2: Well, the first day is coming gone. You're right on that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, But is he an honest man?
Speaker 4: What was he a liar?
Speaker 2: Well? I don't like to call anyone liars, and I
Speaker 2: often think, to be really honest with you, I don't
Speaker 2: call anyone a liar. I think that there are people
Speaker 2: with whom I disagree deeply, and there are people who
Speaker 2: have a different view of the world.
Speaker 3: They just have maybe I do.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm sure you do, because you know what I believe.
Speaker 3: And this we're getting a little dad, he listened to me.
Speaker 3: I appreciate it.
Speaker 2: No, No, I was just going to say that I'm
Speaker 2: going to get a little philosophical with you here, Bob,
Speaker 2: and I hope you understand what I'm saying. I know
Speaker 2: you'll understand what I'm saying. I think we're all the
Speaker 2: creatures of our own experiences, and I think that our
Speaker 2: experiences kind of to mold our view of the world.
Speaker 3: In many respects and yeah, I've had a lot of
Speaker 3: tough times.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, That's what I'm saying, you know. So yeah, okay,
Speaker 2: well look you keep calling the show. You know that
Speaker 2: you're always well.
Speaker 4: Thank you, Dan.
Speaker 3: I appreciate it.
Speaker 2: Man, all right, you'd be well okay, thank you, Bob,
Speaker 2: good night, appreciate good night, thank you, good night. What
Speaker 2: seven two, five four, ten thirty. Got to take a
Speaker 2: quick break. I have two of my favorite callers coming up,
Speaker 2: Ian and Susan, And guess what I got room for you?
Speaker 2: And I don't know if you're listening to me, pick
Speaker 2: up that phone six one seven two five four to
Speaker 2: ten thirty or six one seven nine three one ten thirty.
Speaker 2: We're trying to have a little fun here tonight. Okay.
Speaker 2: The question is, is the bromance between Donald Trump and
Speaker 2: Elon Musk irrevocably broken or can they get back together?
Speaker 2: I mean, let's let's have a little bit of fun
Speaker 2: here tonight. Okay, we can, we can, we can relax
Speaker 2: a little bit, I mean we could. We can get
Speaker 2: serious as well, but feel free join the conversation. Be
Speaker 2: right back on night Side.
Speaker 1: Night Side with Dan Ray on Boston's news radio.
Speaker 2: So we're talking about Elon Musk talking about Donald Trump.
Speaker 2: They've had a bromance going for a while. My question
Speaker 2: is is it over? Is it really over? I mean,
Speaker 2: when Elon Musk called Donald Trump's big, beautiful bill a
Speaker 2: disgusting abomination, I don't know how how much more, how
Speaker 2: much more deeply Elon could have could have psychologically cut
Speaker 2: President Trump. Let me go to Ian in San Antonio, Texas,
Speaker 2: back in the big state of Texas. Don't mess with Texas. Hi, Ann, welcome, How.
Speaker 5: Are you.
Speaker 4: Very well?
Speaker 6: Thank you, Dan? How about yourself?
Speaker 2: I'm doing just great tonight, sir. Is this bromance over?
Speaker 6: Well? I have two points to make. I wouldn't say
Speaker 6: it's over, but I do know that Elon himself is
Speaker 6: very extended in his finances. I have been, I've driven
Speaker 6: by because they go up to often, quite often. And
Speaker 6: his just the plant there is massive. Absolutely, it's city
Speaker 6: blocks upon city blocks, bake. It is massive.
Speaker 2: And he had good for him. I guess.
Speaker 6: I guess, well, I can't imagine how many billions it
Speaker 6: costs to construct that. It's just crazy. And I believe
Speaker 6: that the Tesla is falling out of face. But he's
Speaker 6: done a lot of good for humanity with Neurlink, neuralink,
Speaker 6: and Starling, et cetera. Yeah, so, you know, we wish
Speaker 6: him the best. But my second point for Donald Trump,
Speaker 6: a full stop would be if that New York Times
Speaker 6: headline is true.
Speaker 2: And I don't have the New York Times headline that
Speaker 2: you're referring, to share that with us.
Speaker 6: Okay, I believe, I don't know, Sunday Monday, maybe Sunday
Speaker 6: newspaper New York Times has a story. The headline was
Speaker 6: Elon Musk was does ketamine mushrooms? Psilocybin mushrooms?
Speaker 2: Yeah? Okay, well again I've read that story. It sounded
Speaker 2: to me like this guy was into some pretty weird stuff.
Speaker 6: But you know, yeah, we don't know if that's true,
Speaker 6: but if it is, that would be a full stop
Speaker 6: for the president.
Speaker 2: Well, I don't think the president tolerates well, I know
Speaker 2: that he's not a drinker, and I don't think he
Speaker 2: uses drugs. And when I saw some of that stuff,
Speaker 2: I think that some of the stuff that he was
Speaker 2: using is pretty pretty out there.
Speaker 3: Uh.
Speaker 2: You know, my drugs of choice are corse light and
Speaker 2: red wine.
Speaker 3: Uh.
Speaker 2: Well that's that's what it is, like, Okay, well, that's
Speaker 2: mean to know, behine is perfect and it's and it's
Speaker 2: not particularly expensive. I found a a an obscure winery
Speaker 2: that is at my favorite liquor store, and I don't
Speaker 2: know if anyone's ever heard of. It's called Hayes Wine.
Speaker 2: It's actually really good. At least there's a cabinet and
Speaker 2: a merleau. Uh, and I'll give and you'll peek into.
Speaker 2: These are like eleven dollars bottles of wine and I
Speaker 2: like them a lot. Yeah, I call it pizza wine.
Speaker 2: Where what I mean by that is it's not as
Speaker 2: if you're you're ordering something extraordinary, but uh, it's so
Speaker 2: so that's what. When when with it they stopped talking
Speaker 2: about stuff like ketamine, I think, wasn't that the stuff?
Speaker 2: There was an actor who who was pronounced that a
Speaker 2: young actor a few weeks ago.
Speaker 6: Yes, math a few weeks ago. Yeah, Oh, I don't know,
Speaker 6: but that's I.
Speaker 2: Mean some of this Perry, Matthew Perry. And I think
Speaker 2: that a lot of this stuff is the synthetic drugs,
Speaker 2: which is which are.
Speaker 6: Yeah, well they used that pre up. They use it
Speaker 6: for I believe, to keep you asleep.
Speaker 2: Well, but that's different if it's being used. Look, I
Speaker 2: know that fentyl can be used for anesthesia, but it's
Speaker 2: a whole different deal when some that's being used in
Speaker 2: an operating room where their doctors and nurses and it's
Speaker 2: being monitored. Then they say, oh, yeah, I think I'm
Speaker 2: going to try this. Oh there's somefentodyl in there. Oh yeah,
Speaker 2: this should be this should be cool. I mean I
Speaker 2: I think that's beyond by beyond my scope. Ten years
Speaker 2: in a glass of red wine, and I'm done for
Speaker 2: the night. Okay, So that's yeah.
Speaker 6: You know, he did a good job though, you know,
Speaker 6: saving the taxpayer the money.
Speaker 2: Well, I think he's I think he's supposedly at this
Speaker 2: point found one hundred and seventy five billion in waste,
Speaker 2: but I think he was talking about as much as
Speaker 2: a trillion, So he's a little short of the goal.
Speaker 2: But yeah, see well see, yeah, all right, I'm great
Speaker 2: to hear you.
Speaker 4: Thank you.
Speaker 2: How hot is it in San Antonio tonight?
Speaker 6: Eighty five degrees?
Speaker 2: That's about what we had. We're getting close.
Speaker 6: There with African desk cloud.
Speaker 2: I heard about that. Yeah, was that the Sahara desert cloud?
Speaker 7: Yeah?
Speaker 2: I heard it was half the coast of Florida. I
Speaker 2: didn't think I got over to Texas.
Speaker 6: It does. We comes across the Gulf the southeast. Yeah,
Speaker 6: at times, I know it's very unpleasant.
Speaker 2: I'm sorry to hear that. Okay, Okay, good luck, Okay,
Speaker 2: enjoy your conversation. The conversation. Let me go to Susan
Speaker 2: in Gambridge. Hi, Susan, how are you tonight?
Speaker 8: I'm good Dan. What was the name of that wine?
Speaker 8: Did you say, Hayes?
Speaker 2: Hayes, Yeah, h a y yes.
Speaker 7: Interesting.
Speaker 8: I'm always looking for a good, cheap melow.
Speaker 2: It's I I. If you called me privately, I can
Speaker 2: tell you what where where you can find it, and
Speaker 2: maybe it's It's available in a lot of stores, but
Speaker 2: I happen to stumble upon on it because I'm always
Speaker 2: looking for something that I can enjoy. And I'm not
Speaker 2: one of these serious wine drinkers who are saying, oh,
Speaker 2: I have to get my you know, my my my
Speaker 2: for you know, uh rothschild child or whatever.
Speaker 5: No.
Speaker 2: So, yeah, that that is. It's called Hayes. It's it's
Speaker 2: it's it's it has California, California. It's an American wine.
Speaker 2: And my kids laugh at me and they say, oh,
Speaker 2: you know, but hey, they they'll have a glass of
Speaker 2: it too, and they seem to like it. It's it's
Speaker 2: it's what a glass.
Speaker 8: I'm doing online search. If I can't find it, I'll
Speaker 8: give you a buzz, Rob will give you my.
Speaker 2: Direct line and uh when you hang up, and if
Speaker 2: you need to if you can't find you can find
Speaker 2: it on. I think you can find it online. Up.
Speaker 2: I can google it right.
Speaker 4: Now with you.
Speaker 8: Okay, I'll take care of later.
Speaker 2: So let's talk about the bro mince. Is it probably
Speaker 2: broken or can they get gets?
Speaker 8: I know you don't like, you know, calling people liars,
Speaker 8: but as far as I'm concerned, they're both pathological liars,
Speaker 8: so they kind of deserve each other.
Speaker 2: Okay, I get that.
Speaker 8: Yeah, so I expect this to you know, kind of
Speaker 8: ebb and flow, but I did. The reason I actually
Speaker 8: called is because I wanted to, uh take issue with
Speaker 8: something you'd said about medicaid earlier and the Medicaid cuts
Speaker 8: and who they would hurt. So are you familiar with
Speaker 8: the Kaiser Institute. It's a pretty well known help research firm.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 8: Well, so they've looked at this because I think Arkansas
Speaker 8: and Georgia have both experimented with essentially what the government
Speaker 8: is trying to do, what the federal government is trying
Speaker 8: to do with these uh these work requirements. And first
Speaker 8: of all, the majority of people on Medicaid are working.
Speaker 8: The ones who aren't, there's a percentage who are students,
Speaker 8: there's a percentage who are caregivers for elderly, there is disabled,
Speaker 8: and then after that there's a very small percentage who
Speaker 8: don't fit any of those categories. But the number one
Speaker 8: demographic that these cuts hurt is older women, women fifty
Speaker 8: five to sixty five, often divorced, single mothers. So you know,
Speaker 8: it's not you know, like Mike Johnson said, you know,
Speaker 8: the guys sit in front of the TV playing you know,
Speaker 8: video games or whatever. And the way that they save
Speaker 8: money on this is simply because they give people so
Speaker 8: many hoops to jump through that people just don't bother
Speaker 8: or they they can't they don't have the time to
Speaker 8: manage it, or they don't have the ability to do
Speaker 8: all the online stuff to manage it. And the administration
Speaker 8: of this is actually going to cut it into the
Speaker 8: savings because you know, you have to administrate you know,
Speaker 8: all these you know, making sure they've worked you know,
Speaker 8: every quarter or a certain number, so somebody has to
Speaker 8: compile all that. So I just I have a big
Speaker 8: problem with giving tax cuts while we're taking away what
Speaker 8: I think is very basic, essential medical care from people
Speaker 8: who who need it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, I understand what you're saying. And again we
Speaker 2: probably by the way, I just tried to find Hay's
Speaker 2: wines though I can't wine every but it's very expensive,
Speaker 2: high end wine. So when you finished, get my direct
Speaker 2: number and I'll show you where you can find this
Speaker 2: I'll get I'll quiet and where you can find this
Speaker 2: this wine. Anyway, Look, here's the deal. Here's the deal.
Speaker 2: Anybody in America who is disabled, elderly, uh, you know,
Speaker 2: need support. I'm there, okay, but I'm I'm convinced, Susan
Speaker 2: that there is a percentage of people who are playing
Speaker 2: the system. Okay, And we do not have unlimited money.
Speaker 2: The one thing I do know is we have a
Speaker 2: a federal debt of thirty seven trillion dollars. Uh.
Speaker 8: And so why are we giving tax cuts? Why can
Speaker 8: we always afford tax cuts but not medical care?
Speaker 2: Well, first of all, you can you can tax everybody
Speaker 2: who makes over one hundred thousand dollars a year, and
Speaker 2: you're still not going to tax, be confiscatory, and you
Speaker 2: still won't be able to the it's it's it's I've
Speaker 2: looked at the numbers. I know the numbers. I'm not
Speaker 2: gonna buoy you with the numbers. But we've reached a
Speaker 2: point in time with our taxes where you you can't
Speaker 2: get blood out of a stone, okay. And you have
Speaker 2: people in Massachusetts who are leaving Massachusetts. I had a
Speaker 2: guy today who called me and told me he's gone
Speaker 2: to New Hampshire because he's done with Massachusetts.
Speaker 8: But the reports that we actually have more millionaires, that
Speaker 8: the millionaires text didn't make people leave. We actually have
Speaker 8: more millionaires than before we pass that BA.
Speaker 2: One story in the Globe. Tell me what that number
Speaker 2: looks like a year from now. Okay, that's or two
Speaker 2: or five years from now. Okay, that's that's going to
Speaker 2: be the issue. Millionaires are not dumb. If you over
Speaker 2: if you overtax millionaires, they will find a way to
Speaker 2: absent themselves from the state for a sufficient amount of time.
Speaker 2: The bottom line is this, if you could prove to
Speaker 2: me that there's no waste in any sort of governmental spending,
Speaker 2: I want to cut out waste in military. I want
Speaker 2: to cut out waste in everything everything. I don't want
Speaker 2: it in any way, shape or form. Cut social Security
Speaker 2: benefits because those are earned benefits. We can push forward
Speaker 2: the retirement age for a couple of years because people
Speaker 2: are living longer.
Speaker 8: So there's things we can do for people who aren't laborers.
Speaker 8: I think for someone who's a laborer their whole life,
Speaker 8: I still think sixty five is the age.
Speaker 2: You know, well people also at the age of sixty five,
Speaker 2: they don't They can retire as a laborer, and then
Speaker 2: they can get they can get other jobs. The bottom line, Susan,
Speaker 2: is there's only so much money that we have. We
Speaker 2: have a federal debt of thirty seven trillion dollars. Just
Speaker 2: look at it.
Speaker 8: Trillion in tax cuts would help. Why does like eight
Speaker 8: hundred What I'm saying to you is, why does eight
Speaker 8: hundred billion tax in Medicaid cuts help? But two trillion
Speaker 8: in tax cuts down't?
Speaker 2: Do you know what our GDP is every year in America.
Speaker 8: It's been in the.
Speaker 2: Upper twoes, right, It's about twenty six twenty seven trillion dollars.
Speaker 2: So we are now in what we normally used to
Speaker 2: think of as central American government, territory, banana report, look, territory, tax,
Speaker 2: everything everything in America. Okay, you contact your way out
Speaker 2: of this. Okay, But it's a part of the puzzle.
Speaker 8: It's definitely. Why can't it be a part of it?
Speaker 1: Why?
Speaker 3: What?
Speaker 2: What do you let me ask?
Speaker 8: Why are medical cut?
Speaker 2: Here's part of it, Susan, here's a question for you. Okay,
Speaker 2: what's your the top marginal rate B in the United States?
Speaker 2: Give me the top marginal tax.
Speaker 3: Rate thirty nine.
Speaker 2: It will go back to thirty nine percent, So that's
Speaker 2: the top You think you're going to tax your way
Speaker 2: out of thirty nine percent?
Speaker 4: You really?
Speaker 8: Well, but I think I think that's going to.
Speaker 2: Okay, a what and at what point do you apply
Speaker 2: the thirty nine percent? And what point does thirty nine
Speaker 2: percent kick in ten million dollars twenty million?
Speaker 8: I have to look at historically where we used to
Speaker 8: apply it.
Speaker 2: That used to be the rate it used to They
Speaker 2: used to have rates back in the nineteen fifties. They
Speaker 2: were confiscatory of like ninety one percent.
Speaker 8: Yeah, going back that far.
Speaker 2: Well, that's that's the truth. And you know who lowered
Speaker 2: those tax rates? I named Jack Kennedy. I need Jack
Speaker 2: Kennedy anyway, Hey, get the number. We can talk more.
Speaker 2: Keep calling the show. We got away from the bromance
Speaker 2: a little bit, but that's okay, okay. Just taxing. That's
Speaker 2: the hell out of everybody. And you'll be able to
Speaker 2: tax your way out of this. You won't.
Speaker 8: Well, I just think people who have medical care are
Speaker 8: more likely to be able to work, don't you. I mean,
Speaker 8: I think we have it backwards if we're trying to say,
Speaker 8: you know that you need to work to get medical
Speaker 8: I think medical care helps people get work.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 2: But what I'm saying is I'm not again, Susan, you're
Speaker 2: assuming that I want people to or said that I
Speaker 2: somehow want people to work while while they're sick. That's
Speaker 2: not at all. I want to make sure the money
Speaker 2: that we have, whatever money we have, goes to people
Speaker 2: who actually need it. And I don't want people. There's
Speaker 2: a lot of people in this country because you can
Speaker 2: who who are getting checks from the government. Uh, and
Speaker 2: they need to work for a check. It's as simple
Speaker 2: as that. If you tell me that there's no fraud
Speaker 2: in America, I'm gonna I'm going to ask to be fraud.
Speaker 8: There's also fraud in and all the you know, the
Speaker 8: tax cuts that they do, and all the stimulus that
Speaker 8: they do, business stimulus, there's always you know, I.
Speaker 2: Mean, Susan, we just have a different view of the world,
Speaker 2: and we we will continue our conversation with the world.
Speaker 2: But I got to let you go for now, and
Speaker 2: feel free to get the correct line and I'll try
Speaker 2: to get you to somewhere we can find this wine. Okay,
Speaker 2: thank you very much. All right, don't hang out and
Speaker 2: I we'll talk to you. Okay. I got some wide
Speaker 2: open lines here. If you if you think like Susan,
Speaker 2: does that taxing people more? Tell me how much you
Speaker 2: want to get the top marginal rate to be one
Speaker 2: hundred and twelve Maybe that's maybe we could do that.
Speaker 2: We could charge people one hundred and twelve percent of
Speaker 2: the money that they make every year. How would that be? Okay,
Speaker 2: that's the problem with America right now.
Speaker 3: Uh.
Speaker 2: And the problem is that the Republicans have an opportunity
Speaker 2: now to put something together and they are failing miserably
Speaker 2: at it. Six one seven, two, five, four ten thirty
Speaker 2: six one seven, nine three one ten thirty What would
Speaker 2: you like to see the top marginal tax rate. And
Speaker 2: at what point do you want to kick it in?
Speaker 2: Do you want to make the top marginal tax rate,
Speaker 2: Let's say eighty five percent? How would that be? And
Speaker 2: we and we kick it in at fifty thousand dollars
Speaker 2: a year or one hundred thousand dollars a year. Bring
Speaker 2: it on, coming back on night side after this, all right,
Speaker 2: back to the phones we go six one, seven, two, five,
Speaker 2: four to ten thirty six one seven, nine three one
Speaker 2: ten thirty. Again, I'm trying to have a little fun tonight.
Speaker 2: Talk about the the Trump Elon Musk romance and has
Speaker 2: it ended? But we could talk about tax policy as well.
Speaker 2: Let's go to Glenn and brighton. Glenn, you're next on
Speaker 2: nice side, go right ahead.
Speaker 4: Yeah, this isn't why I call. But back House certain
Speaker 4: A is my favorite wine.
Speaker 2: That's good to know. How much does that cost?
Speaker 4: About ten bucks a bottle? It's it's a good point
Speaker 4: and it's not a city. It won't give you an
Speaker 4: acid reflux. They show it at the Boston Wine Exchange.
Speaker 2: That's good to hear. That's good to hear. That's not
Speaker 2: why you called, though, Glenn.
Speaker 4: Go right ahead, Well, no, I don't know, but I
Speaker 4: really disagree with brand Paul, but I do on this one.
Speaker 4: I want to take go, you know, I want to
Speaker 4: do a Trump wants to do well. I don't. I'm
Speaker 4: not on eon is Ewon. I'm not an Ewon side
Speaker 4: on this. That's you know this, what is it? Ton't
Speaker 4: want to build something? What is it called? Wonder Well?
Speaker 2: It's a literative President Trump has what he is characterizing
Speaker 2: as a a one big, beautiful film. Okay, and everything
Speaker 2: is thrown in there. And what has happened is that
Speaker 2: it passed the House by one vote, and I guess
Speaker 2: at least one member of the House is now saying
Speaker 2: they felt that they voted incorrectly. There was no margin
Speaker 2: for error there. And in the Senate when it got
Speaker 2: kicked over to the Senate, a bunch of the senators,
Speaker 2: including Rand Paul and Mike Lee, said, hey, this baby
Speaker 2: may not fly here. And so you have all of
Speaker 2: these competing interests. You have members of Congress Republicans from
Speaker 2: New York state and also other members you know, not many,
Speaker 2: but from Pennsylvania, Michigan, some of those Northeastern states who
Speaker 2: want to say, hey, look we have to give more
Speaker 2: deductions for state income tax payments because they're higher in
Speaker 2: these states my state, and for real estate taxes because
Speaker 2: they're high. Their cap now at ten thousand dollars, which
Speaker 2: means brilliant for President Trump. That penalizes people in places
Speaker 2: like Massachusetts, Connecticut, New York, New Jersey, Illinois, California. It
Speaker 2: doesn't impact people who live in places like low real
Speaker 2: estate tax states like South Dakota, North Dakota, Iowa, Wyoming, Oklahoma, Kansas, Nebraska.
Speaker 2: And so there's a there's a struggle, and the Republicans
Speaker 2: are finding difficult to to to reach a consensus on this.
Speaker 2: And if they don't reach a consensus, the average American
Speaker 2: voter is going to say, well, you had your chance,
Speaker 2: you blew it. Let's give the let's give the other,
Speaker 2: the Democrats another chance.
Speaker 4: I'm afraid.
Speaker 2: Well, that's the way it works. And if the Republicans
Speaker 2: aren't smart enough to figure that out, they don't deserve
Speaker 2: to be in positions of authority in my opinion.
Speaker 4: Oh, I hate to give the devil as due, but
Speaker 4: the Democrats know how to play smash mouth football. I
Speaker 4: think what happened, I.
Speaker 2: Think what I don't think it's football. I think what
Speaker 2: they do is they have a game plan, and they
Speaker 2: go on and they execute the game plan.
Speaker 4: And I mean and and and they.
Speaker 2: Work as a team and and and it's not like
Speaker 2: hurting cats. Bernie Sanders is an avowed socialist. But Bernie
Speaker 2: understands that he doesn't have the votes in the Democratic Caucus,
Speaker 2: of which he technically is. Remember, even though he's an independent,
Speaker 2: he doesn't have the votes.
Speaker 5: Uh.
Speaker 2: And so throw enough into into any tax build for
Speaker 2: the Democrats, and everybody's got a little piece of it.
Speaker 2: Everybody's happy, and they all vote the Republicans.
Speaker 4: They trying to say, I'm trying to say, the Republicans
Speaker 4: play cloquet. It's like right now they're in a position
Speaker 4: to do something and not just you know, instead of
Speaker 4: the circular firing squad that they're doing well.
Speaker 2: If if people haven't noticed days of coming off the calendar,
Speaker 2: and what happens is as time goes on, they go
Speaker 2: off more quickly. They've already wasted February, March, April, and May,
Speaker 2: and they haven't had much right now.
Speaker 4: So I know it depresses me.
Speaker 2: Don't be depressed. Don't be depressed. There's other things to
Speaker 2: be depressed about.
Speaker 4: I know, I just I just don't want to. I
Speaker 4: want eight years of jd vance after Trump going. I
Speaker 4: don't want, you know, the Gems to come back with
Speaker 4: somewhere like a Tamla.
Speaker 6: You know.
Speaker 4: I just I don't think.
Speaker 2: I don't think the fuller Vice president has much of
Speaker 2: a political future, in my opinion. Shot a shot at
Speaker 2: it and it didn't work. I think the Democrats are
Speaker 2: going to move in a in a different direction. They're
Speaker 2: probably going to try to get to the center. I
Speaker 2: don't think that Tim Watts is the future of the
Speaker 2: Democratic Party either. I think that there's some governors who
Speaker 2: will who will emerge. I would predict that the nominee
Speaker 2: in twenty twenty eight will be a good credit governor. Uh,
Speaker 2: and probably for me West belt Or.
Speaker 4: I'll vote for Gail King before I vote for ten Walls.
Speaker 2: All right, I'll let you run. Thanks, Thanks planning, be well,
Speaker 2: be well talking to Okay, send Jordan Rich a little
Speaker 2: email if you get a chance.
Speaker 4: Okay, I can't do it. I don't have an email.
Speaker 2: Okay, Well, okay, whatever, just send him good wishes then, okay,
Speaker 2: thanks thanks to playing Jeff, great night, Okay, Uh, let's
Speaker 2: finish it up here. I gotta take a break. I
Speaker 2: got Ken and Waltham, I got some open lines. Come
Speaker 2: on six one, seven, two, five, four, ten thirty. You
Speaker 2: guys are creative. Six one seven, nine three, one ten thirty.
Speaker 2: Give me a call. Is the Trump Musk romance over again?
Speaker 2: I I expected more humor from my audience tonight on this.
Speaker 2: I wasn't looking at it as the most important issue
Speaker 2: of the week.
Speaker 1: But that's okay.
Speaker 2: Uh, feel free. We're coming right back Nightside. Let's light
Speaker 2: it up now so I can get everybody in before
Speaker 2: the midnight hour back on. We got about thirty, maybe
Speaker 2: twelve minutes left. We're coming back on Nightside.
Speaker 1: It's Nightside with Dan Ray on Boston's news Radio.
Speaker 2: There's another big story that's just been brought to my attention.
Speaker 2: We're not going to talk about it in any detail,
Speaker 2: but I want you to know that I do follow.
Speaker 2: And I want to thank a friend of mine who
Speaker 2: sent this to me. Associated Press reporting tonight that President
Speaker 2: Trump is now moving to block US entry for foreign
Speaker 2: students planning to study at Harvard University. And this is
Speaker 2: out of Washington. President Trump is moving to block nearly
Speaker 2: all foreign students from entering the country to attend Harvard University.
Speaker 2: His latest attempt choked the Ivy League school from an
Speaker 2: international pipeline that accounts for twenty five percent of the
Speaker 2: student body. In an executive order signed Wednesday just tonight,
Speaker 2: Trump declared it would jeopardize national security to allow Harvard
Speaker 2: to continue hosting foreign students on its campus in Cambridge, Massachusetts.
Speaker 2: He writes in the order, I've determined that the entry
Speaker 2: of the class of foreign nationals described above as detrimental
Speaker 2: to the interest of the United States, because, in my judgment,
Speaker 2: Harvard's conduct has rendered it unsuitable and to be an
Speaker 2: unsuitable destination for foreign students and researchers. Trump wrote in
Speaker 2: the order, it's a further escalation of the White House's
Speaker 2: fight with the nation's oldest and wealthiest university. If ed
Speaker 2: to quoted in Boston block the Department of Homeland Security
Speaker 2: from barring international students at Harvard last week, Trump's new
Speaker 2: order invokes a different legal authority. We will be looking
Speaker 2: at this tonight and I'm sure talking about it tomorrow.
Speaker 2: Let me go next to Ken and Waltham. Ken, you
Speaker 2: were next on Nightside. Thanks for checking in.
Speaker 5: Go right ahead, Ken, Dan, I don't think there ever
Speaker 5: was a romance between Trump and Mosque. I think they
Speaker 5: just saw ways to to take advantage of each other
Speaker 5: and they did and now they're off end up going
Speaker 5: their separate ways.
Speaker 2: Okay, So so you think that it was a it
Speaker 2: wasn't a marriage, but it was a relationship of convenience.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean Trump got two hundred and fifty million
Speaker 5: dollars and Musk got to go after, you know, agencies
Speaker 5: that were investigating him and dismantled them. So it worked
Speaker 5: out for them both.
Speaker 2: Well, if it could be proven that Musk actually was
Speaker 2: able to go after agencies that were investigating him or
Speaker 2: his companies, he may have potential legal problems, both both
Speaker 2: at a federal and maybe even at a state state level.
Speaker 5: Yeah maybe, I know.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, Well, I'm just saying, you know that you
Speaker 2: got to be that's a strong allegation. What what agency
Speaker 2: did he did he seem to go after in your
Speaker 2: in your opinion.
Speaker 5: Well, USA was investigating Starlink and afterwards conflicts of interest
Speaker 5: between Musk and I guess it was maybe you know,
Speaker 5: the Ukraine deployment of Starlink terminal.
Speaker 2: He provided Starling to Ukraine. As I understand that at
Speaker 2: a time during the war with Russia, which was instrumental
Speaker 2: in allowing Ukraine to continue in the fight.
Speaker 5: Yeah. Yeah, I don't. I don't really know a lot about.
Speaker 2: It, to be honest, as I say, I just I
Speaker 2: just didn't know if there was something. But thank you
Speaker 2: for raising that is something we'll have to monitor. Hopefully
Speaker 2: he will that he that's not something he did meaning
Speaker 2: and it was not something he did that tried to
Speaker 2: use his position is voluntary one hundred and thirty five
Speaker 2: day position to benefit his own company. I mean, I
Speaker 2: think you're if he's that stupid, he's walking into federal
Speaker 2: indictment territory in my opinion.
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, I mean I know there's yeah, and there's
Speaker 5: an article in Newsweek. I think it's back in February.
Speaker 5: In fact, yeah, I just found it's February sixth, twenty
Speaker 5: five talking about this. So again I don't I don't
Speaker 5: know if it's true or not either.
Speaker 2: Ye, problem, that's fine, that'll be fine, we'll be fine. Well,
Speaker 2: you know, I'll keep an eye on it. I'll read
Speaker 2: the piece. Ken you You've always have been somebody who
Speaker 2: who has a keen observational ability, and so if I
Speaker 2: missed that article, and it's something I should be aware of.
Speaker 2: Keep me posted, Okay, Hi, sure will, thanks LL, thanks LL,
Speaker 2: appreciate good night. Let me go next to ken uh
Speaker 2: Tim in Wuober and I got to Tim's here, Tim
Speaker 2: and Woober and Tim, you're next on nightside, goright ahead.
Speaker 7: I damn you taking my call.
Speaker 2: You're welcome.
Speaker 7: I think that I think I call it the romance
Speaker 7: between Elon Musk and President Trump Arova.
Speaker 2: So you think it's over, huh yep, Well what's.
Speaker 7: Been going on lately in the last week or so?
Speaker 7: You know what the both of them say, And I
Speaker 7: think it's old.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, it certainly has sounded as if it had
Speaker 2: reached the end of the line, that is for sure. Well,
Speaker 2: we'll have to see. It's going to be interesting if
Speaker 2: this piece of legislation, which just barely passed the House,
Speaker 2: is going to have to be reworked in the Senate.
Speaker 2: The Speaker today said there's not enough time to do that.
Speaker 2: They've kind of backed themselves into a time corner here
Speaker 2: that they they fritted away, as administrations often do. They
Speaker 2: fritted away days in February and March and April, and
Speaker 2: now they find themselves in June, and the calendar will
Speaker 2: be closing in a lot more quickly than they realize.
Speaker 4: You're right.
Speaker 7: If I canna say one thing you said to me
Speaker 7: a couple of times, when you say to your college,
Speaker 7: tell all your friends about Nightside. I'm told about five
Speaker 7: or seven friends of mine about Nightside, and I say
Speaker 7: they're not a call.
Speaker 2: Excellent, that's good. We'll always we love our regular calling
Speaker 2: that we love new callers. You got it, Tim is
Speaker 2: always Thank you my friend. We'll talk soon, thanks.
Speaker 4: Much, thank you. Dan.
Speaker 2: All right, pal, we have a great nice We'll go
Speaker 2: from Tim in Wooburn. Was that a two minute warning?
Speaker 2: I think I just heard two minute warning? Okay, Tim,
Speaker 2: and winter Tim, I got about a minute for you.
Speaker 2: You go right ahead. You called late, but I got
Speaker 2: you on go ahead to Okay.
Speaker 9: I'm going I'm moving to Phoenix. Not Phoenix, but Tucson.
Speaker 9: My cousin lives there, and I'm gonna move from November first.
Speaker 9: They got a duplex apartment for five to fifteen month,
Speaker 9: really nice location. I'm going back to see it and
Speaker 9: I'm coming back in May.
Speaker 2: And Okay, so you're not a movie, You're just you're
Speaker 2: gonna winter in Arizona, which is the thing to do
Speaker 2: if you don't like New England winters. Well, I'm jealous
Speaker 2: of you now at this point.
Speaker 9: Fifty five eighty five in the winter, and it's eighty
Speaker 9: five to one hundred five by one hundred and five
Speaker 9: with thirty nine due points like eighty five.
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, I hear you, I hear you. Well, good
Speaker 2: for you, Good for you.
Speaker 9: I'm happy to know that I'm gonna be bad back
Speaker 9: and forth. But i have to leave November first, and
Speaker 9: I'm coming back on May around May first.
Speaker 2: Let me mark that on my calendar right now. Tim
Speaker 2: So marked it down here.
Speaker 9: And now I got a question real quick.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yes you can, Yes you can.
Speaker 9: What do I what are the dark right now?
Speaker 2: Radio WBZ Radio WBZ ten thirty. You call me up privately.
Speaker 2: I'll call you back and I'll tell you exactly how
Speaker 2: to do it. But I'm flat out of time.
Speaker 4: Tim So, I can't.
Speaker 9: I'll call you tonight. I know you can call me back.
Speaker 9: I don't know what of them.
Speaker 2: Give me a call tomorrow, okay, Rob will give you
Speaker 2: my direct line. Rob, give Tim my direct line. Got
Speaker 2: to run it is no, don't hang up, yep, no problem. Okay,
Speaker 2: done for the night, everybody. I want to thank Rob.
Speaker 2: I want to thank Shane is back there tonight as well,
Speaker 2: so we get we double delta tonight. Good good job.
Speaker 2: I both want to thank Marita. Want to thank all
Speaker 2: the callers, first time callers and regular callers and all
Speaker 2: the listeners. Thank you so much. All dogs, all cats,
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Speaker 2: and I gotta get some sleep. See you guys tomorrow night, everybody,
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