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Speaker 2: My jes sounds like you. Mike is fucked up.
Speaker 1: Now you're breaking up.
Speaker 2: Sorry about that. We had you do the intro and
Speaker 2: the mic fucked though my mic? Oh now you sound great?
Speaker 2: Now you sound fine? Yeah, oh no, it was literally
Speaker 2: after you played that that sound too like change the mic.
Speaker 3: It's because we started the stream and then he played
Speaker 3: the sound if you play I think that happens when
Speaker 3: I start the stream and I hit the hell.
Speaker 6: That was you who played that's yeah, So let's go
Speaker 6: ahead and introduce our other host, Arrows.
Speaker 3: You want to go ahead and tell every end guys,
Speaker 3: this is Arrows is and we did not plan to
Speaker 3: match our shirts. That just hit synchronicities but this was
Speaker 3: her kind of idea. So I'm actually pretty excited because
Speaker 3: I know very little about what we're talking about tonight.
Speaker 3: So Arrows, do you want to kind of let people
Speaker 3: know who you are and maybe what we're going to
Speaker 3: be getting into and will introduce the rest of the
Speaker 3: rejects here?
Speaker 1: Sure? Hey everyone, it's great to see you. Great to
Speaker 1: be on again, Am arrows Up. You can find me
Speaker 1: on YouTube at arrows Up, and you can find me
Speaker 1: on Twitter at aras to Ethos. I post a lot
Speaker 1: about metaphysics and the eneads and astrology and yeah, today
Speaker 1: we're gonna be talking about the Gateway process. So I
Speaker 1: guess that apparently like it sounds like they had kids
Speaker 1: listen to a bunch of these tapes and stuff like that,
Speaker 1: But this is just a CIA document that goes over
Speaker 1: like some of the reasoning and the results of it.
Speaker 1: It's pretty interesting, so I'm I'm excited to get into
Speaker 1: it with you guys. There's an astral projection they talk about,
Speaker 1: like Condolini awakening, hypnosis, and they mentioned the occult like
Speaker 1: all the like multiple times, so it's pretty interesting.
Speaker 2: If I remember correctly.
Speaker 7: Not to rupt, but like, don't they even This is
Speaker 7: the paperwork you see a lot of people post on
Speaker 7: the internet where it's like, oh, the government's saying we
Speaker 7: live in a matrix. If I'm correct, I'm almost positive
Speaker 7: this is even the paperwork that says that too, where
Speaker 7: it shows like they got the head and all the
Speaker 7: slicing and all that stuff.
Speaker 1: Like a projection. Yeah, I kind of.
Speaker 2: Very interesting.
Speaker 4: So I don't think I have the right pdf pulled up.
Speaker 4: What's it called?
Speaker 1: Specifically, it's the Gateway Process. Scroll all the way up.
Speaker 4: I got the stargate.
Speaker 3: Is this related to the telepathy test?
Speaker 4: That's not the right one.
Speaker 2: I don't know. I think that might be the right one.
Speaker 1: Actually, yeah, I said, are you using the link that is? Yeah,
Speaker 1: because it's it's titled Analysis and Assessment of Gateway Process, right,
Speaker 1: I was looking.
Speaker 4: Up there on that.
Speaker 3: Well, if we wow, while we're figuring this out, if
Speaker 3: y'all want to uh introduce the rest of yourselves.
Speaker 7: Oh yeah, Nick, yeah, thank you very much. Uh yeah,
Speaker 7: Nick from the Oicle Rejects. You can find uh you
Speaker 7: can find though you find a bit shoot rumble YouTube,
Speaker 7: old major podcast. Uh just to let people know who
Speaker 7: are listening now, Uh, we got Ike Baker and we
Speaker 7: got Jamie poul Lamb coming on tomorrow at three point thirty.
Speaker 2: Uh, definitely keep an eye out for that.
Speaker 7: We'll be talking about astrology over the ages, you know,
Speaker 7: over time. And we also got a big name next
Speaker 7: week coming on. Finally got her on. We got Georgina
Speaker 7: Rose coming on next Wednesday. So she's a big name
Speaker 7: in the LIMA. She's not a member of the OTO,
Speaker 7: but she has a big name in the LIMA. So
Speaker 7: uh definitely checked that out. I was a little impressed
Speaker 7: that was finally to get her on the show. So
Speaker 7: the check that out.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I'm excited for that.
Speaker 7: Yeah, but uh yeah, that's that's about it. And uh yeah, thanks,
Speaker 7: thanks you all for showing up. And again Arrows, thanks
Speaker 7: for uh thanks for coming up with this topic because,
Speaker 7: like I had mentioned in the group chat, like that
Speaker 7: was an idea that me and Lux had when we
Speaker 7: covered the first time, and we just never did it.
Speaker 7: So I'm glad we're actually going back and doing it now.
Speaker 7: And for some reason it seems to be uh it
Speaker 7: seems to be a hot topic again. It's probably about
Speaker 7: the third time I've noticed it being a hot topic
Speaker 7: after I covered it.
Speaker 2: So like you know. Yes, I better late than never.
Speaker 2: But thanks again.
Speaker 4: Is this related to the tapes it all?
Speaker 8: I think it's more related to remote viewing.
Speaker 4: Okay, so I think you're mince messed it up again?
Speaker 1: Great?
Speaker 2: All right, so Ethan, why don't you introduce yourself real quick?
Speaker 8: It's honored to be here with you, guys. I really
Speaker 8: love exchanging information and learning and sharing. And this document
Speaker 8: really is so interesting because it brings together the occult
Speaker 8: of politics and the occult of consciousness really right right
Speaker 8: into the network of the US government. So Ethan, Indigo Smith.
Speaker 8: I'm on all the social media and I appreciate anyone
Speaker 8: reaching out all whenever if they feel like it. And
Speaker 8: I have a bunch of articles and a few books
Speaker 8: out there and appreciate anyone checking out those two. And again,
Speaker 8: honored to be here.
Speaker 2: Julian, Mike working Now you want to try it? Yeah,
Speaker 2: you're good, You're good.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know. I don't know what's going on.
Speaker 7: Uh.
Speaker 3: You can introduce headless now, all right, Headless, Last, but
Speaker 3: not least, what's up guys?
Speaker 4: Headless Chat. You can find me on Instagram and Twitter
Speaker 4: and on YouTube Headless Giant podcast as. You can also
Speaker 4: send me your strange and mysterious experiences in your dreams
Speaker 4: or in reality at Helpless Giant Podcast at gmail dot
Speaker 4: com and we will read those on Thursdays on my
Speaker 4: Magical mail Bag show. Also on some days we got
Speaker 4: the Trialogues with Ethan and Ricardo and on Mondays I
Speaker 4: have the Alchemy Mondays with Arrows. So also check out
Speaker 4: Tuesday seven seven seven with Nick.
Speaker 3: Also check out Rustic Gods with Jewels.
Speaker 4: That's all it is.
Speaker 3: Never you never outlook. It doesn't it doesn't offend me,
Speaker 3: but you never show. It's fine. It's fine because it's
Speaker 3: like a series. It's like an a cult reject series, right.
Speaker 1: But the last one was wild.
Speaker 8: It's wild.
Speaker 3: The last one was great. And dude, there's so many
Speaker 3: I had a bunch of is of Demeter that I
Speaker 3: that I wanted to pull up that we didn't. We
Speaker 3: didn't get to pulling up. We didn't get to talking
Speaker 3: about Nastic Conformant or that video that you were gonna
Speaker 3: pull up, the crazy Wife swap video. We didn't get
Speaker 3: a chance to pull that up either.
Speaker 4: So we got so much more in store.
Speaker 3: Maybe for next yeah, maybe for the next episode, guys.
Speaker 2: Yeah, for people, definitely go check out that series. It's
Speaker 2: rather impressive.
Speaker 7: Like my man's covering a lot of shit, you know
Speaker 7: what I'm saying, Like and the dudes doing it freestyles. Ude, Yeah,
Speaker 7: he's freestyling. He doesn't have notes, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 7: It's like the Ji from Wu Tang over here, just
Speaker 7: freestyling crazy.
Speaker 1: Shit PhD and paganism. Really.
Speaker 7: Oh, you know one thing I want to mention before
Speaker 7: we get into the show. So all of us did here,
Speaker 7: all of us. You can pat ourselves on the back.
Speaker 7: I know one time I was bitching that we're only
Speaker 7: number two in the occult podcast community, out of the
Speaker 7: top one hundred, but we are number one in her
Speaker 7: meticism podcasts. Uh so yeah, there we go, out of
Speaker 7: the top seventy podcast for our medicism.
Speaker 3: Hul rejects number one talking about baby.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 7: And you know some of this, I'll be totally honest
Speaker 7: with you, some of the shows that we beat that
Speaker 7: were on there, I was like, oh wow, like I
Speaker 7: had that that guy on for a Cult of Personality,
Speaker 7: you know, to me, like that's like that to some
Speaker 7: people that was having Sam Tripoli on for them because
Speaker 7: they're in the you know, in the conspiracy community.
Speaker 2: That was like kind of close for me.
Speaker 7: And to find out that my show beat his, I
Speaker 7: was like, what the fuck? Just blew me away? You know,
Speaker 7: I beat Rune Soup what Like, wow, you know, I
Speaker 7: can't believe that.
Speaker 2: So I just want to throw that out there. Hard
Speaker 2: work pays off.
Speaker 3: Well, Nick, props to you for bringing us all to
Speaker 3: you know.
Speaker 2: But you know, it all happens because we're all here.
Speaker 2: You know, it's not all me.
Speaker 8: Yeah, I appreciate that prop seeing that and everyone that's
Speaker 8: that's awesome.
Speaker 3: Man. Hell yeah, I love you guys.
Speaker 4: Hell yea, thank you audience. You guys are awesome.
Speaker 3: And yeah, yeah, we love you guys as well. I'm
Speaker 3: gonna start printing. Well, I have a I think I
Speaker 3: have some occult reject stickers on the way. Maybe not
Speaker 3: may I may have not put that order in yet.
Speaker 3: I'm dude, I have like twenty different sticker designs, guys,
Speaker 3: I have in the works, so court reject stickers as well.
Speaker 3: I'll be sending them to y'all.
Speaker 2: What since my future ex wife of my current baby, well.
Speaker 3: Yeah that is the name.
Speaker 4: I don't think you comment.
Speaker 2: Don't worry us.
Speaker 7: Uh, Julia has gotten some pretty nasty comments said, So
Speaker 7: don't don't feel too that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, my baby mama whole ass.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that screen gap is going to follow her around.
Speaker 7: So I guess, just real quick, before we get into
Speaker 7: this paperwork, I just want to let people know that again,
Speaker 7: like this is an announcement, like it says right here
Speaker 7: on the Gateway Process, I think that was part of
Speaker 7: the Stargate project. If I correct, I do get those.
Speaker 7: The difference you know, between those a little shadier. It's
Speaker 7: in a gray area. I get confused. But you know,
Speaker 7: for people who don't know what that is, the Gateway
Speaker 7: Process is is associated with the Monroe Institute. Interesting thing
Speaker 7: about that guy, you could probably listen to the old
Speaker 7: the old series that the cole Rejects did. I did
Speaker 7: go in to that guy, and he was even very
Speaker 7: much connected to radio and even inventing things.
Speaker 2: So it's just very interesting you had someone like that.
Speaker 7: But it was like tapes and stuff where I guess
Speaker 7: back then it was probably tapes where we have different
Speaker 7: sounds and different frequencies, and it was almost like guided
Speaker 7: meditations at certain points, and.
Speaker 2: It was helping people have out of body experiences. Basically.
Speaker 7: I even used some of them a long time ago,
Speaker 7: and there was certain markers that I would normally use
Speaker 7: for myself that I know that I'm about to have
Speaker 7: an experience, because it's always the same thing over and
Speaker 7: over again. I found those tapes bringing me to that
Speaker 7: that point a lot faster, a lot faster, and so
Speaker 7: in my opinion, I do think there's probably something there,
Speaker 7: and everyone went too far, only did maybe like five
Speaker 7: or six tapes, but I definitely think there's something there.
Speaker 7: And some of the shit that they talk about in
Speaker 7: these papers is pretty wild, and I think it's worth
Speaker 7: listening to, you know. Like I mentioned before, me and
Speaker 7: Lux had covered it and we wanted to go over
Speaker 7: the paperwork, but we didn't because we already had a
Speaker 7: bunch of shit to cover. I think it was already
Speaker 7: like three parts, so we weren't trying to drag it
Speaker 7: out any much longer. And Erros had mentioned it and
Speaker 7: I was like, yes, that was like that's something I
Speaker 7: wanted to do like four years ago, so let's do it,
Speaker 7: you know. So yeah, thank you, Erros, And just that
Speaker 7: was just a little bit of I guess, you know,
Speaker 7: back back information.
Speaker 2: About why we're even doing this. So now Eros, I
Speaker 2: think you said the first page, you said we could skip.
Speaker 1: Pretty much, right, Yeah, I think so, because it's just
Speaker 1: like a letter like from the person who kind of
Speaker 1: wrote it up to the government or whatever. So I say,
Speaker 1: let's just like dig into the meat of it.
Speaker 2: Is there anything you wanted to say about it before
Speaker 2: we get into it.
Speaker 1: No, I just think it's really interesting. I feel like
Speaker 1: you guys probably have more background on it than I do.
Speaker 1: I just liked.
Speaker 4: If I could pop in that. The reason why I
Speaker 4: had the wrong BREDF was because I was thinking this
Speaker 4: was the other end of the project, which was Operation Stargate. Yes, yeah,
Speaker 4: so Stargate was the one that I had pulled up.
Speaker 4: You guys were talking about this. So the gateway process
Speaker 4: was used in projects stargates trying to wing about remote viewing, right,
Speaker 4: and so they had people from the Monroe Institute doing
Speaker 4: remote viewing work with a lot of the well known
Speaker 4: remote viewers that you know, like Joe McGonagall. His Mars
Speaker 4: one million BC remote viewing was done under Robert Monroe. Yeah,
Speaker 4: that's the leak. I had the Stargate document pulled up,
Speaker 4: which they talk about the background here. It says in
Speaker 4: the mid nineteen or eighteen hundreds. Investigations into a nominalist
Speaker 4: mental phenomena were initiated by very limited number of researchers
Speaker 4: working essentially independent of one another to examine this area
Speaker 4: due to evidence suggested a wide variety of anecdotal accounts
Speaker 4: of spontaneous occurrences. So one of the motivations for why
Speaker 4: they started looking into remote viewing is because of spiritualism
Speaker 4: in the eighteen hundreds. And how they did that methodology
Speaker 4: so very nice.
Speaker 7: Well thank you for throwing that in there. But uh yeah,
Speaker 7: so I know I was rose. I figured maybe we
Speaker 7: would all take turns reading. You thought that would probably
Speaker 7: work out the best, right, yeah, And I guess as
Speaker 7: we read, we could just talk about certain things.
Speaker 3: You guys know I love reading.
Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I figured we kind of do it
Speaker 7: almost like the book club that you do.
Speaker 2: And if people don't people don't know what the morning would, yes, yes, god,
Speaker 2: so the morning would.
Speaker 7: If people don't know what that's about, you got to
Speaker 7: check out Jules Saturday. It's for Patreon, but he does
Speaker 7: do a little sample for.
Speaker 3: People doing a cult anatomy of man Tomorrow. Oh I'll
Speaker 3: be here for that, yeah, say, and Ethan, you too. Man,
Speaker 3: if you're ever up and you want to join us, dude,
Speaker 3: you're always welcome, even if these.
Speaker 4: Guys I need to go there.
Speaker 3: Yeah, man, for sure.
Speaker 7: It's definitely fun. It's it's a good time, and it's
Speaker 7: it's you and you talk.
Speaker 3: About imagine why up that early on Saturday. Good for you.
Speaker 3: Lucy knows, Lucy knows, And guys, we got enchanted Wiggers
Speaker 3: coming in twenty twenty six. We'll fit this subliminal.
Speaker 2: Messenger Enchanted Wiggers.
Speaker 3: It's coming, It's coming, all right, all right, Well we'll
Speaker 3: talk about it towards the end of the show. I
Speaker 3: have I'm gonna work on like a EP for it,
Speaker 3: like a like a little wrap, like an underground wrap EP.
Speaker 1: I go.
Speaker 3: So it's good.
Speaker 2: It's a little shit.
Speaker 7: Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, all right, nice, I want to
Speaker 7: hear that. But yeah, just real quick, definitely check that
Speaker 7: shit out. It's on Saturday mornings, so what ten o'clock
Speaker 7: your time with some shit but my time?
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Well, you know, we were doing it public and we
Speaker 3: do the first hour, so we do two books and
Speaker 3: we review one for the first hour. We do that
Speaker 3: public and then we cut the x YouTube and we
Speaker 3: have two rumble streams. The disagree to agree rumble stream
Speaker 3: is the one that stays public, So we'll cut that
Speaker 3: and then we'll go to the private, private Patreon stream
Speaker 3: for the second hour, hour and a half of this show,
Speaker 3: where it's usually the more juicier, you know, stuff that
Speaker 3: we're getting into.
Speaker 7: So all right, I wrote you want to start it off,
Speaker 7: and then I'll and then I guess we could.
Speaker 2: Go down this line. Then I'll go just a go
Speaker 2: head as a go, and then eything can go if
Speaker 2: you want.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm going to skip the introduction to Yeah, it's
Speaker 1: not important, okay. Hypnosis, According to the theories of psychologists
Speaker 1: Ronald Stone and the biomedical engineering models of ish ish
Speaker 1: it's it's hack Bentov, hypnosis is basically a technique which
Speaker 1: permits acquisition of direct access to the sensory motor cortex
Speaker 1: and pleasure centers and lower cerebral emotional portion and associated
Speaker 1: pleasure centers of the right side of the human brain
Speaker 1: following successful disengagement of the stimulus screening function of the
Speaker 1: left hemisphere of the brain. The left hemisphere of the
Speaker 1: brain is the self cognitive, verbal, and linear reasoning component
Speaker 1: of the mind. It fulfills the function of screening and
Speaker 1: coming stimuli by categorizing, assessing, and assigning meaning prior to
Speaker 1: allowing passage to the right hemisphere of the mind. The
Speaker 1: right hemisphere, which functions as the non critical, holistic, non verbal,
Speaker 1: and pattern oriented component of the brain, appears to accept
Speaker 1: what the left hemisphere passes to it without question. Consequently,
Speaker 1: if the left hemisphere can be distracted, either through boredom
Speaker 1: or through reduction to a soporific semi sleep state, external
Speaker 1: stimuli to include hypnotic suggestions, are allowed to pass unchallenged
Speaker 1: into the right hemisphere, where they are accepted and acted
Speaker 1: upon directly. The result may involve an emotional reaction originating
Speaker 1: in the lower cerebral region, sensory slash motor responses requiring
Speaker 1: involvement of the cortex, and so on. Both the sensory
Speaker 1: and the motor cortices of the right cerebral portion of
Speaker 1: the brain contain a sequence of points known as the homunculus,
Speaker 1: which corresponds two points. Oh yeah, I can't see you guys,
Speaker 1: so I don't know how to know if you guys
Speaker 1: want to interrupt me.
Speaker 7: Yoh wait, yeah, I was very excited that I mentioned
Speaker 7: the monkey because.
Speaker 3: I really mentioned because I.
Speaker 2: Still am belief that it's something physical.
Speaker 1: Multiple times they do.
Speaker 4: Actually well, the sensory homunculous is this figure.
Speaker 7: That wraps around the brain and it shows you what
Speaker 7: part of the body it efectssum shit.
Speaker 3: I think there's a picture of it. A little further down,
Speaker 3: there's a there's a little diagram of it maybe right.
Speaker 4: Basically, it's like a wiring harness. This is how they
Speaker 4: view your brain is basically the wiring comes out in
Speaker 4: these areas from these different parts of the body, and
Speaker 4: so you've got more wires going to certain parts and
Speaker 4: then other other parts have less wires going to them.
Speaker 4: But that's how they would characterize your entire bodies. By
Speaker 4: looking at the sensory homunculous, you can see where the
Speaker 4: most nerve connections are. It's mostly in your face and
Speaker 4: eyes and all the rest of that.
Speaker 3: A mind.
Speaker 4: Right, just scroll out a little bit, you'll see the figure.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and I know headless. You were talking the other
Speaker 1: day about how like some people when they ask for
Speaker 1: project like they'll use like a magical homunculus to like
Speaker 1: protect their.
Speaker 4: That's what was talked about in a book called The
Speaker 4: The Magnificent world of who's the euclid? Is it euclid? Now,
Speaker 4: who's the guy who did the the geometry with the
Speaker 4: squares on the x y axis? What's that called? Anyways,
Speaker 4: it was that it was that mathematician and he was
Speaker 4: talking about how you have to if you're doing extended
Speaker 4: journeys outside of the body using astral projection, you need
Speaker 4: to have a homoculous guard your body, or else the
Speaker 4: demon is gonna hop into your vessel.
Speaker 3: Right, yeah, yeah, okay, well I guess sertor right that
Speaker 3: you could create.
Speaker 4: No, no, this was a guy related to Euclidean geometry.
Speaker 4: I forgot his name though, all.
Speaker 1: Right, I'll continue, thank you. So, the uberal portion of
Speaker 1: the brain contain a sequence of points known as the homunculus,
Speaker 1: which corresponds to points in the body see Exhibit one
Speaker 1: next page. We already looked at that stimulation of the
Speaker 1: corresponding area and the core tex causes immediate response in
Speaker 1: the associated portion of the body. Consequently, induction of the
Speaker 1: suggestion that the left leg is numb if it reaches
Speaker 1: the right hemisphere unchallenged and is referred to the appropriate
Speaker 1: area of the sensory cortex, will result in an electrical
Speaker 1: reaction being generated that will induce the feeling of numbness. Similarly,
Speaker 1: the suggestion that the person is experiencing a general feeling
Speaker 1: of happiness and well being would be referred to the
Speaker 1: appropriate pleasure centers located in the lower cerebral portion or
Speaker 1: in the cortex of the right hemisphere, thereby inducing the
Speaker 1: suggested feeling of euphoria. Finally, suggestions such as one if I.
Speaker 4: Could pop in real quick, Yeah, I think they've mislabeled
Speaker 4: that because there is a portion of your brain that
Speaker 4: is dedicated to shutting down different parts of the body.
Speaker 4: So they're referring to the act of going into a
Speaker 4: hypnotic state as being pleasure centers, when really it's actually
Speaker 4: just the shutting down motion. So they've sort of mislabeled that,
Speaker 4: like either one can be induced, but they're not inducing
Speaker 4: the pleasure centers. They're trying to create a numbing sensation.
Speaker 1: Well, I think they're talking about just like kind of
Speaker 1: multiple examples of what you can do with hypnosis, and
Speaker 1: they even talk about like curing disease and stuff later
Speaker 1: on in it.
Speaker 4: Well, one of the interesting things when I was in
Speaker 4: the army, I had a guy who was my roommate
Speaker 4: who did self hypnosis, and he could put the back
Speaker 4: of his neck on one chair and the act of
Speaker 4: his heels on another chair and hold himself up like
Speaker 4: that almost indefinitely after hypnotizing himself into a trance. And
Speaker 4: what he said was, once you've engaged the part of
Speaker 4: your brain that actually produces this rigidity or this I
Speaker 4: guess you would call it like a constant tension. It's
Speaker 4: not something that can be broken very easily, so he
Speaker 4: can actually self hypnotize them into being completely paralyzed. Jeeves, jeez,
Speaker 4: it was the guy who taught me how to do it.
Speaker 1: Finally, suggestions such as one that informs the hypnotic subject
Speaker 1: that he enjoys enhanced concentration or powers of memory would
Speaker 1: be responded to in the right hemisphere by accessing unused
Speaker 1: information storage capacity normally held in reserve as a result
Speaker 1: of left hemisphere selection and control process is this aspect
Speaker 1: will become significant in the context of the Gateway process
Speaker 1: when attention is given to examining the way that hypnosis
Speaker 1: may be used to accelerate progress in the early stages
Speaker 1: of the Gateway experience. I just love that because it's
Speaker 1: like so much of what we do in magic is
Speaker 1: like reprogramming the subconscious, you know, to like get the
Speaker 1: results that we want. And I mean that's what this
Speaker 1: really is. You know, this is a seems like a
Speaker 1: pretty easy direct way to do it.
Speaker 7: Yeah, do you want me to go or you want me.
Speaker 2: To take a look?
Speaker 1: Yeah, I guess I have to probably scroll through it.
Speaker 2: So I have it opened up my end.
Speaker 8: Oh so, I.
Speaker 3: Guess they were teaching people to create these monkeylouses or
Speaker 3: was this just like a some kind of research study.
Speaker 1: In this context, It's just like it's probably some kind
Speaker 1: of bodily parallel, you know, it's the actual physical monculus
Speaker 1: in the brain. But I'm sure that there is some
Speaker 1: kind of like symbology there that would be like related.
Speaker 3: To oh I got you, okay, okay, Yeah.
Speaker 8: I think it's more of like a consciousness creation that
Speaker 8: can you can, for instance, with the remote viewing, you
Speaker 8: can maybe have your consciousness body visit a location, for instance, right,
Speaker 8: your homunculars. Maybe I think this is the reference they're
Speaker 8: using the military, right.
Speaker 4: Well, what they're saying right here is that all of
Speaker 4: the nerves in your body have certain places that they
Speaker 4: show up at the end of the nervous system in
Speaker 4: your brain. Right, So you could see that the feat
Speaker 4: it's very small in there because proportionally they are less
Speaker 4: nerves that go to your feet, and there are that
Speaker 4: go to your head. And this is where the nerves
Speaker 4: that go to your head come out. So there's this
Speaker 4: strip called the sensory strip, and that is what's connecting
Speaker 4: all of the different parts of your body to your brain.
Speaker 4: And so in that area you've got the different senses
Speaker 4: that then branch off into the other parts or lobes
Speaker 4: of the brain. So right, there would be the distribution
Speaker 4: of how many nerves there are per anch I guess
Speaker 4: in these other parts of your body. So you even
Speaker 4: have internal organs that would be in that sensory strip
Speaker 4: as well. You know that it's a literal.
Speaker 1: Part of the brain.
Speaker 3: So did the alchemical uh you know, homunculous creation did
Speaker 3: Did they name this part in your brain after that?
Speaker 3: Or was that because it is named after your brain?
Speaker 3: I mean, this part of.
Speaker 4: Your brain was named after the alchemical concept because this
Speaker 4: is all of your sensory organs. This is the little you, right,
Speaker 4: this is the thing that's pointing outwards. So it makes
Speaker 4: sense to me why they would call it a homunculus.
Speaker 4: It literally is that part of the brain that is
Speaker 4: the sensory homunculous.
Speaker 9: Right, okay, I understand it now, you know how you
Speaker 9: talking about those nerves running up the side of Ye
Speaker 9: go ahead, headless in the uh right, in those in
Speaker 9: those two pictures that I made where the guy is
Speaker 9: blindfolded or has a pirate patch on, and he has
Speaker 9: the warns coming out of it the skull, that's what
Speaker 9: I'm actually referring to that, oh, with those things.
Speaker 3: And then believe it or not, look at that thing.
Speaker 3: I mean that looks like I think that's part of
Speaker 3: the lymphatic system right there, right, uh if if it's
Speaker 3: the same thing there.
Speaker 4: In the middle, yeah, it does, doesn't.
Speaker 1: Well I'm glad that next reading this next part because
Speaker 1: this made me think of Nick.
Speaker 10: Actually, hey, arrows, Arrows, could you put little zodias all
Speaker 10: along that body as well?
Speaker 4: Because the head is yeah, the head is aries and
Speaker 4: then on down.
Speaker 1: Oh like on like a full human body.
Speaker 4: Right. Well, especially with the sensory homoculous because each one
Speaker 4: of those different regions would be governed by a different
Speaker 4: zodiac sign.
Speaker 1: Oh so interesting. Yeah, you definitely could.
Speaker 3: The brain is fascinating the shape of everything in there.
Speaker 3: It's just.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 8: Uh.
Speaker 7: Transcendental meditation, on the other hand, transcendental meditation works in
Speaker 7: a distinctly different fashion. In this technique, intense and protracted,
Speaker 7: single minded concentration on the pron set on the process
Speaker 7: of drawing energy up the spinal cord ultimately results in
Speaker 7: what appears to be creation of acoustical standing waves in
Speaker 7: the cerebral ventricles, which are then conducted to the gray
Speaker 7: matter in the cerebral cortex on the right side of
Speaker 7: the brain. As a result, according to Bentov, these waves
Speaker 7: will stimulate and eventually polarize the cortex in such a
Speaker 7: way that it will tend to conduct a single a
Speaker 7: signal along to homoculous starting from.
Speaker 2: The toes and on up.
Speaker 7: Oh geez, Yeah, that's kind of like like I talk
Speaker 7: about like when I go to blast off, it's like
Speaker 7: from my toes up, I go fucking like it just disappears,
Speaker 7: like there's no feeling at all, Like it doesn't.
Speaker 2: Exist, Like like from my knees down just gone like this.
Speaker 2: I wouldn't even feel them in bed, like they just
Speaker 2: didn't exist.
Speaker 7: The Bentov biomechanical model, as described in a book by
Speaker 7: Lee Sanella, MD entitled Kundalini Psychosis or Transcendence, states that
Speaker 7: the standing acoustical waves of the result of the altered
Speaker 7: rhythm of the heart sounds which are occasioned by prolonged
Speaker 7: practice of meditation, in which set up the sympathetic vibrations
Speaker 7: in the walls of the fluid filled cavities which comprise
Speaker 7: the third and.
Speaker 2: Lateral ventricles of the brain.
Speaker 7: In addition, according to bentof the states of blood, the
Speaker 7: state of bliss described by those whose Kunglini symptoms have
Speaker 7: completed the full loop along the hemisphere may be explained
Speaker 7: as self stimulation of the pleasure centers in the brain
Speaker 7: caused by the circulation of a current along the sensory cortex.
Speaker 2: Bentoff also notes.
Speaker 7: That most of the described symptoms start on the left
Speaker 7: side of the body, means that it is mostly a
Speaker 7: development occurring in the right hemisphere, although normally a period
Speaker 7: of meditation, evolving intense concentration and practice for five years
Speaker 7: or some is required to bring up the Kundalini Bentorf
Speaker 7: state section.
Speaker 4: Think about think about the the bappo met One side
Speaker 4: is up, one side is down. Are they talking about
Speaker 4: the different hemispheres of the brain too. When it comes
Speaker 4: to Baphomet.
Speaker 7: I guarantee you I've even wondered if that was Jeweles
Speaker 7: might remember this in missing pieces and when they're above
Speaker 7: the above the convenience store. I think it might be
Speaker 7: the little guys like going up and down between.
Speaker 2: The world and something like intercourse between the worlds. He
Speaker 2: does mention going up down, Yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, definitely, no, that's all. Yeah, And like.
Speaker 1: The feminine and masculine.
Speaker 3: Right, yeah, oh yeah, and masculine the light in the dark,
Speaker 3: masculine feminine.
Speaker 8: Yeah, it's very yin yam too, right, because it's got
Speaker 8: the internal external right and left opposite kind of crossing, and.
Speaker 3: Then it's gotten the human animal kind of chimeric hybrid
Speaker 3: to represent the upper and lower self or the lower
Speaker 3: and higher self.
Speaker 4: I guess I just had a thought. So imagine this, right,
Speaker 4: if you're looking at the two parts of the hemispheres
Speaker 4: of the brain that have the different sensory homunculous on them,
Speaker 4: it's not just this side that has all of that
Speaker 4: stuff corresponding to that part of the body. So right
Speaker 4: side we correspond to the left side of the body.
Speaker 4: So you're literally bisected. Your entire body is bisected in
Speaker 4: the middle of your brain, and then the strip for
Speaker 4: the right side is over here on the left side,
Speaker 4: and the strip for the left side is over here
Speaker 4: on the right side. So you're making a physical representation
Speaker 4: of the Cross inside of your own body as your
Speaker 4: nerves are split in half. So there's literally a sign
Speaker 4: of the Cross inside of your brain.
Speaker 3: Dude. Yeah, there's the eye of Horus inside of our brain.
Speaker 1: Bro.
Speaker 3: Like, it's a cult anatomy, which is becoming one of
Speaker 3: the most fascinating topics that I've been getting into. Absolutely, yeah,
Speaker 3: there is stoked for tomorrow.
Speaker 1: I was gonna say, what if Baphamet is like inverted
Speaker 1: sphinx instead of like the body of the beasts and
Speaker 1: then the head of a human, it's the the body
Speaker 1: of a human.
Speaker 2: I never realized that's right.
Speaker 3: Whoa, So it's not it's not like this beacon of wisdom,
Speaker 3: it's it's more so the opposite.
Speaker 4: Well, the sphax is kind of an inverted uh uh.
Speaker 8: I was thinking of.
Speaker 4: Was that either?
Speaker 8: Sorry, sorry, I'm lagging. I was thinking there's a Taichi
Speaker 8: meditation that is the grand ultimate. Sorry, not the grand Ultimate.
Speaker 8: That's taichi the microcosmic orbit, which is a process very
Speaker 8: similar to how this transcendental meditation process is being described.
Speaker 8: And when this was written, not so much when it
Speaker 8: was released publicly. Transcendental meditation actually hypgnosis was very popular too,
Speaker 8: not and TCM transcendental meditation push one of the more popular.
Speaker 8: It was so pushed and so popular and was a
Speaker 8: real big money maker. Not to note in the sense
Speaker 8: that it wasn't isn't a valuable meditation practice, but it
Speaker 8: was very closed in the sense it wasn't free the
Speaker 8: books and the process was very elked for the time,
Speaker 8: but it was super popular. My point, being long winded
Speaker 8: point is that most meditation processes that are available today
Speaker 8: will get you to where this practice, where these suggestions
Speaker 8: are leading to right, which is clearing the mind so
Speaker 8: that you can get out of the way and tap
Speaker 8: into the collective consciousness to simplify. So not not to
Speaker 8: knock any like hypnosis, TCM or transcendental meditation, they're still valuable,
Speaker 8: but what people are practicing now are probably as valuable.
Speaker 8: And that goes to the remote viewing development. It was
Speaker 8: it was not stagnant, it was it was a process
Speaker 8: in movement emotion and development and so many many things
Speaker 8: can be integrated that people might practice today.
Speaker 4: I just think it's amazing that it's coming from the CIA.
Speaker 3: You know right, Hey, they did it with the Temple
Speaker 3: of Set. Dude. They dropped those documents months ago and
Speaker 3: speak of which we talked about that last night.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 4: I got all all of Michael Achino's books, so I'm
Speaker 4: gonna be a subject matter expert on everything Michael Aquino
Speaker 4: by the time I'm finished.
Speaker 3: With them all, even more than this.
Speaker 4: I bought them off Amazon. I just thought, you know,
Speaker 4: somebody's got to do it. Nobody reads Michael. This is
Speaker 4: what Nick motivated me to do. He's got the books
Speaker 4: that nobody has ever read, and they just talk about
Speaker 4: them all day long. So I'm just like, all right, well,
Speaker 4: I got to learn everything I need to about the
Speaker 4: guy so that I can't say that I'm one of
Speaker 4: those people.
Speaker 2: I like that man.
Speaker 7: No, but you know what, you'll probably have plenty of
Speaker 7: actual ship out of his own words to even use anyone.
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying that you don't even have
Speaker 2: to make up juristic fuck can clickbait shit.
Speaker 7: Exactly, or it might actually be like this is maybe
Speaker 7: more like you might actually really find the crush.
Speaker 8: Out the roots.
Speaker 2: Really about.
Speaker 4: All of this stuff is about finding out the roots,
Speaker 4: because once you can find out the roots, you can
Speaker 4: find out where all this other stuff comes from. So
Speaker 4: once you know the roots, that's when you can start
Speaker 4: plugging all the information.
Speaker 7: Sir, I like that, all right, let me go. Uh fuck,
Speaker 7: I lost my spot.
Speaker 2: Again, I see it, Bentos states.
Speaker 7: Bentos states that exposure to mechanical or acoustical vibrations in
Speaker 7: the range of four to seven Hurtz cycles per second
Speaker 7: for protracted periods may achieve the same effect. Bentoff sites
Speaker 7: as an example, repeated writing in a car whose suspension
Speaker 7: in seat combination produced that range of vibrations, or being
Speaker 7: exposed for long periods of time to these frequencies caused,
Speaker 7: for instance, by an air conditioning duct.
Speaker 2: I guess that can happen that too. Well.
Speaker 7: He also knows that the cumulative effect of these vibrations
Speaker 7: may be able to trigger a spontaneous Physiocundalini sequence insusceptible
Speaker 7: people who have a particular sensitive nervous system drumedy to
Speaker 7: keep going, and then let me just finish off that page, Jules,
Speaker 7: And then you'll take over for biofeedback, Okay, yeah, you
Speaker 7: keep going if you want.
Speaker 2: Oh, if you guys want to take over, go I
Speaker 2: can hit it.
Speaker 4: Yeah yeah feedback. The third consciousness altering methodology, which we
Speaker 4: will be briefly describing, is biofeedback. Biofeedback is some biofeedback
Speaker 4: is somewhat unique in that it actually employs self cognition
Speaker 4: self cognitive powers of left hemisphere to gain access and
Speaker 4: let me see, gain access to such areas of the
Speaker 4: right hemispheres, the lower cerebral, motor and sensory cortices, and
Speaker 4: assorted pain pleasure centers. Instead of suppressing the left hemisphere
Speaker 4: as is done in hypnosis or largely bypassing and ignoring
Speaker 4: it as is done in visual transcendental meditation, biofeedback teaches
Speaker 4: the left hemisphere first to visualize the desired result and
Speaker 4: then to recognize the feelings associated with the experience of
Speaker 4: successful right hemisphere access to specific lower cerebral cortex, pain
Speaker 4: pleasure or other areas in the manner needed to produce
Speaker 4: the desired result. Special self monitoring devices, such as the
Speaker 4: digital thermometer are used to inform the left brain when
Speaker 4: it succeeds in key the right hemisphere into accessing the
Speaker 4: appropriate area. What do you think those wearables on your
Speaker 4: risks are doing on this is Once this is done,
Speaker 4: the left brain can then repeatedly instruct the right brain
Speaker 4: to re establish the pathways involved so as to produce
Speaker 4: the same external objective measures of success. In this way,
Speaker 4: the pathways are strengthened and emphasized to such an extent
Speaker 4: that the left brain consciousness is enabled to access appropriate
Speaker 4: areas of the right brain using a conscious demand mode.
Speaker 4: For example, if the subject wishes to increase the circulation
Speaker 4: in the left leg in order to speed up healing,
Speaker 4: they may concentrate with his left brain on achieving that
Speaker 4: result while carefully monitoring a digital thermometer connected to the
Speaker 4: left leg. When the concentrated effort begins to achieve success,
Speaker 4: the digital thermometer will register an increase in the temperature
Speaker 4: of the left leg. At that point, the subject can
Speaker 4: mentally left brain associate the sensation experience with the result achieved,
Speaker 4: and can begin to emphasize by memory recall the same
Speaker 4: process to cause its strengthening. By enhanced malignant tumors can
Speaker 4: apparently be suppressed and ultimately destroyed physiology or by the
Speaker 4: body's pleasure centers can be stimulated and a variety of
Speaker 4: specific physiological results may be achieved. In addition, biofeedback may
Speaker 4: be used to greatly accelerate achievement of deep meditative states,
Speaker 4: particularly for beginners who have no experience in meditative techniques
Speaker 4: and whose progress in that methodology is enhanced through effective
Speaker 4: visualization and external objective affirmation. Well, one way I can
Speaker 4: think of that is by those have you guys ever
Speaker 4: seen those mushrooms that get hooked up to the electrodes
Speaker 4: and then they start playing music. This kind of thing
Speaker 4: is done with biofeedback and meditation, so that they hook
Speaker 4: up the EEG to your head, and the more in
Speaker 4: tune your your thoughts become, the more positive biofeedback in
Speaker 4: your ear holes you get. Right, So it's a it's
Speaker 4: a feedback loop. Display of the subjects brainwave pattern on
Speaker 4: a Katha ray tube has proven to be laboratory validated
Speaker 4: means by which may quickly learn to place themselves profoundly
Speaker 4: relaxed states characterized by the sort of quietude and singularity
Speaker 4: of mental focus associated with advanced medication Number five gateway
Speaker 4: and HEMI sync uh, do you want to take that ethan?
Speaker 8: Let's see, let's see are we at five?
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 8: I was going to say that the summation of a
Speaker 8: lot of this is to get rid of our own consciousness,
Speaker 8: which is in the way a little anecdote which I
Speaker 8: think is inspirational of the Buddha. Someone asks him, what
Speaker 8: did you gain from meditation? You're teaching this meditation and
Speaker 8: what have you gained from it? And he said, I've
Speaker 8: gained nothing, but I've lost the fear of death, the
Speaker 8: anxiety of life and old age and this and that.
Speaker 8: And so he shed all of these problematic anxiety issues
Speaker 8: rather than gaining something or pursuing gaining something, and that
Speaker 8: way he was able to open up his mind.
Speaker 1: Okay, so yeah, and you even shed the body. And
Speaker 1: they talk about time travel in this even.
Speaker 4: Right on the note of biofeedback though, I mean, the
Speaker 4: wearables are definitely in line with all of this biofeedback.
Speaker 4: I just you know, everybody's putting these things on. They
Speaker 4: don't realize that it's a two way street. They can
Speaker 4: influence you just as easily with electromagnetic fields as you
Speaker 4: could be influencing them with your data. So all they
Speaker 4: have to do is introduce a little bit of stimulus,
Speaker 4: and then they've got you on the hulk, sort of
Speaker 4: like a you know, roach on a strength.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 8: It's interesting too. A lot of this document as a
Speaker 8: whole really knocks materialism like that we're so locked into
Speaker 8: as a science approach. This really I think it gets
Speaker 8: at a lot of the technical aspects of this Max
Speaker 8: Plank quote, which I've noticed the remote viewers refer to
Speaker 8: a lot. I'll share before every Sorry, I regard consciousness
Speaker 8: as fundamental. I regard matter as derivative from consciousness. We
Speaker 8: cannot get behind consciousness. Everything that we talk about, everything
Speaker 8: that we regard as existing postulates consciousness, and the materialism view,
Speaker 8: of course, is the complete opposite of that. So I
Speaker 8: think this paper kind of just gets at the whole consciousness.
Speaker 8: I like the Wu Tang version consciousness rules everything around me.
Speaker 8: I'll read.
Speaker 2: That's the radio.
Speaker 8: No, no, I'm sorry, that was my interjection, but he
Speaker 8: stops at postulates consciousness the Max Plank quote. But I
Speaker 8: regard consciousness as fundamental is you know, sums it up neatly. Anyway,
Speaker 8: So gay Way and HEMI sync. Now that we have
Speaker 8: briefly profiled the basic mechanics of the principal techniques for
Speaker 8: altering or expanding consciousness, which share some of the objectives
Speaker 8: and or methods employed in the Gateway Experience, we may
Speaker 8: proceed to focus on what that technique actually involves. Fundamentally,
Speaker 8: the Gateway Experience is a training system designed to bring
Speaker 8: enhanced strength, focus, and coherence to the amplitude and frequency
Speaker 8: of brain wave output between the left and right hemispheres
Speaker 8: so as to alter consciousness, moving it outside the physical
Speaker 8: sphere so as to ultimately escape even the restrictions of
Speaker 8: time and space. The participant then gains access to the
Speaker 8: various levels of intuitive knowledge which the universe offers. What
Speaker 8: differentiates the Gateway Experience from forms of meditation is its
Speaker 8: use of the Hemi sync technique, which is defined as
Speaker 8: a monograph by Monroe Institute trainer Militia Melissa Jaeger as
Speaker 8: a quote a state of consciousness defined when the eg
Speaker 8: patterns of both hemispheres are simultaneously equal in amplitude and frequency.
Speaker 8: Although Hemi sink seems to be rather rare and of
Speaker 8: only short duration in ordinary human consciousness, Melissa Jaeger states
Speaker 8: that quote audio techniques developed by Bob Monroe can induce
Speaker 8: and sustain HEMI sink with the Institute's basic Focus three tapes.
Speaker 8: She also notes that quote studies conducted by Elmer and
Speaker 8: Alice Green at the Meninger Manager Foundation have also shown
Speaker 8: that a subject with twenty years of experience in zen
Speaker 8: meditation could consistently establish hemy sink at will, sustaining it
Speaker 8: for over fifteen minutes. Doctor Stewart Twemlow, a psychiatrist and
Speaker 8: research associate of the Monroe Institute, reports that quote, in
Speaker 8: our studies of the effect of the Monroe tape system
Speaker 8: on brain waves, we have found that the tapes encouraging
Speaker 8: the focus encourage the focusing of brain energy. It can
Speaker 8: be managed with a light bulb in watts into a
Speaker 8: narrower and narrower frequency band. This focusing of energy is
Speaker 8: not unlike the yoga concept of one pointedness, which may
Speaker 8: translate in Western terms as single mindedness. Unquote. Doctor Twemlow
Speaker 8: goes on to observe that as the individual gets into
Speaker 8: the tapes beyond Focus three quote, there is a gradual
Speaker 8: increase in brain wave size, which is a measure of
Speaker 8: brain energy or power, and essentially, I feel like, that's
Speaker 8: a long winded way of saying. With this technology and
Speaker 8: audio assistance, we can enhance the meditation process and effects
Speaker 8: by magni magnitudes of order order of magnitudes. Right. So
Speaker 8: something I was thinking about in Oh, please let this
Speaker 8: go on. I can say this later.
Speaker 4: When it comes to hemi sink and the sensory homunculous,
Speaker 4: you have to think that these two things are lick.
Speaker 4: So as your ears are taking in these different vibrations
Speaker 4: that produce alternate waves of frequency that your your your
Speaker 4: mind here is it's stimulating the entire nerve cluster around
Speaker 4: those sensory homunculi, right, So both sides of your brain
Speaker 4: are then responding to the things that your ears are
Speaker 4: hearing in such a way that it creates sort of
Speaker 4: like a reciprocal vibration. That's when you can, you know,
Speaker 4: create these different things is by synchronizing both hemispheres on
Speaker 4: the same wave one, which is rare because we're constantly
Speaker 4: in you know, several different frames of mind. I mean,
Speaker 4: when do we ever have focused concentration?
Speaker 3: Right? Were all in any of these little programs in school?
Speaker 4: Oh?
Speaker 2: I was, I don't remember any tapes.
Speaker 3: I was in one. It was called open doors. I've
Speaker 3: heard of that you think about, like the doors of
Speaker 3: perception and all that, right, Like it's as yeah, yeah,
Speaker 3: and we are in the month of Janice.
Speaker 7: It was somebody I knew that I show somebody else
Speaker 7: mentioned it in there. I think the Gate program I
Speaker 7: saw somebody mentioned in the comments. That's somebody I knew
Speaker 7: somebody personally that was going to come on the show
Speaker 7: a while ago. But I just I think it just
Speaker 7: kind of let the bull drop that they was supposed
Speaker 7: to be a gate program and they said this ship.
Speaker 2: Was part of it. They were in elementary school listening
Speaker 2: to this ship. I was like, what really, Oh that's right.
Speaker 3: Yeah, sounded familiar. I was like, dude, because and then
Speaker 3: I we had talked about it before, obviously, but I
Speaker 3: think I had brought it up in the group chat
Speaker 3: that I was in the program or whatever in one
Speaker 3: of those little programs that they had in the schools.
Speaker 3: Is it my turn to read?
Speaker 1: Have you read yet? No? Okay, go ahead, and then
Speaker 1: I'll read next. We've skipped you?
Speaker 4: Sorry about that?
Speaker 3: No, I mean it's fun. It's fun. We're on six.
Speaker 1: Yes, I think so.
Speaker 2: First laser.
Speaker 4: This is really awesome, guys, I like this. I love
Speaker 4: seeing how your brains work about this information. This is awesome.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I think this shits really important.
Speaker 4: Yeah right.
Speaker 3: Melissa Jaeger uses a metaphor to help clarify the process
Speaker 3: involved in the use of Hemi sink in the Gateway experience.
Speaker 3: She points out that the human mind in its natural
Speaker 3: state may be likened to an ordinary lamp, which expends
Speaker 3: energy in the form of both heat and light, but
Speaker 3: in a chaotic, incoherent way, which diffuses its energy over
Speaker 3: a wide area of rather limited debt. On the other hand,
Speaker 3: the human mind under the discipline of Hemi Sink acts
Speaker 3: after the fashion of a laser beam, which produces a
Speaker 3: discipline stream of light. The stream of energy is projected
Speaker 3: with total coherence both frequency and amplitude, such that the
Speaker 3: surface area of a laser beam contains billions of times
Speaker 3: the concentrated energy found in a similar surface area on
Speaker 3: the sun. Holy Shit. Gateway assumes that once the frequency
Speaker 3: and amplitude of the human brain are rendered coherent, it
Speaker 3: is possible to begin accelerating both so that the human
Speaker 3: mind is soon resonating at ever higher vibrational levels. The
Speaker 3: mind can then bring itself into synchronization with more vibrational,
Speaker 3: with more sophisticated and rarefied energy levels in the universe.
Speaker 3: The mind, when operating at these increasingly rarefied levels, is
Speaker 3: assumed to be capable of processing the information thus received
Speaker 3: through the same fundamental matrix by which it makes I'm
Speaker 3: losing my place because it's so small, by which it
Speaker 3: makes sense of Okay, hold on, let me read that again.
Speaker 3: When operating at these increasingly rarefied levels, is assumed to
Speaker 3: be capable of processing the information thus received through the
Speaker 3: same fundamental matrix by which it makes sense of ordinary
Speaker 3: physical sensory input. To achieve meaning in a cognitive context,
Speaker 3: it's a long sentence. Such meaning is usually perceived visually.
Speaker 11: In the form of symbols ah, but may also be
Speaker 11: perceived as astonishing flashes of holistic intuition, or even in
Speaker 11: the form of scenarios involving both visual and aural perception.
Speaker 3: The mechanics by which the mind exercises the consciousness function
Speaker 3: will be addressed in more detailed later in this paper.
Speaker 4: We got to get it out record, we got to
Speaker 4: get curtain. That's crazy, that would be fucking amazing.
Speaker 2: Yeah, look at.
Speaker 4: Who I've heard Jarp with kerb the comedian. Yeah yeah,
Speaker 4: he's great. He's got his own conspiracy podcast.
Speaker 3: Now, yeah, yeah, I've seen that.
Speaker 1: All right. Oh wait, I'm muted. You guys can hear
Speaker 1: me right now?
Speaker 2: Ye?
Speaker 1: Yes, I should be muted.
Speaker 2: But okay, the whole time you're talking about.
Speaker 1: You, all right? Section seven Frequency following response. To achieve
Speaker 1: synchronization of brain hemispheres, the hemi sync technique takes advantage
Speaker 1: of a phenomenon known as the frequency following response, which
Speaker 1: means that if a subject here is a sound produced
Speaker 1: at a frequency which emulates one of those associated with
Speaker 1: the operation of the human brain, the brain will try
Speaker 1: to mimic the same frequency pattern by adjusting its brain
Speaker 1: wave output. Therefore, if the subject is in a fully
Speaker 1: awake state, but here is sound frequencies which approximates brainwave
Speaker 1: output at the theta level, the subject's brain will endeavor
Speaker 1: to alter its brain wave pattern from normal beta to
Speaker 1: the theta level. Since the theta level is associated with sleep,
Speaker 1: the subject concerned may progress from a fully awake to
Speaker 1: a sleep state, provided that he does not consciously resist
Speaker 1: as the brain strives to entrain its wave frequency output
Speaker 1: with the one which the person hears. Since these brain
Speaker 1: wave frequencies are outside the spectrum of sounds which can
Speaker 1: be heard in pure form by the human ear, homy
Speaker 1: sync must produce them based on another phenomenon known as
Speaker 1: the brain's capacity for deducing beat frequencies. If the human
Speaker 1: brain is exposed to one frequency in the left ear,
Speaker 1: which is ten hertz below another audible frequency played in
Speaker 1: the right ear, rather than hearing either of the two
Speaker 1: audible frequencies, the brain chooses to hear the difference between them,
Speaker 1: the beat frequency that's availing itself of the FFR phenomenon,
Speaker 1: and using the technique of beat frequencies the Gateway system uses,
Speaker 1: how you sink? And other audio techniques.
Speaker 4: Can I stop you right there?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 4: I thought that's what they were talking about when it
Speaker 4: comes to HEMI sink? What were they talking about in
Speaker 4: the previous section. If they weren't talking about the resonance
Speaker 4: between these two different beats and creating that unifying sound wave,
Speaker 4: maybe I just jumped the gun. But you know what
Speaker 4: I'm saying, right, because the whole idea behind heavy sink
Speaker 4: is that you're creating the two different resident beats and
Speaker 4: that it creates a third frequency in the mind that
Speaker 4: you hear, but it's not being played right yep.
Speaker 1: I think maybe they're just adding that extra detail like
Speaker 1: of just how that works, Like if you have one
Speaker 1: frequency in one year and another frequency in the other year,
Speaker 1: like the brain just cut like cuts the difference between them.
Speaker 4: And that's that's where you hear the third sound. That's
Speaker 4: that's how you get the different frequencies. They actually have
Speaker 4: a lot of different instruments that are based off of that,
Speaker 4: like the allows, but a lot of that stuff is
Speaker 4: you know, they copied off of you know, these ancient instruments.
Speaker 4: But at the same time, it's like they're making a
Speaker 4: lot of checks that I don't think they can cash.
Speaker 4: But I think most kind of picked up on that
Speaker 4: by now, you know.
Speaker 1: I guess it's just different than like having the same
Speaker 1: frequency in both ears.
Speaker 4: Right, they're trying to get to that. Yeah, the atmosphere
Speaker 4: is seeking up. But I think they're problemisic a lot
Speaker 4: more than they can deliver in a lot of this
Speaker 4: different amplitude way, you know, because they mentioned amplitude a lot,
Speaker 4: but I don't think they know what it means.
Speaker 8: I've always whether I'm ignorant for doing this is probably arguable,
Speaker 8: but I've always pursued meditation without additives, so that when
Speaker 8: I saw the sound requirement and headphones deductively, I kind
Speaker 8: of veered away from it. And any kind of friend
Speaker 8: I have not No, no, I have not enough. I'm
Speaker 8: interested in doing so, but I but I wonder, as
Speaker 8: things this was meant for a military capacity for people
Speaker 8: to be able to do it rapidly. I wonder if
Speaker 8: it's necessarily the best thing for a person. I questioned,
Speaker 8: if you know, yeah, you're going at one hundred or
Speaker 8: ninety out of nowhere, you might you might? Did you
Speaker 8: here because for killing?
Speaker 3: Right?
Speaker 4: Did you hear Natalie Spearman's analysis of her experience with
Speaker 4: the god helmet, Because that's what they're talking about with
Speaker 4: the god helmet. This, this whole heavy sink is part
Speaker 4: of the god helmet format. It's the method.
Speaker 8: Well, it reminds me too when when we were a
Speaker 8: Nick and I and maybe headless too of a couple
Speaker 8: other people when we were looking into those the murdering
Speaker 8: like uh, transsexual group from the Bay Area that were
Speaker 8: running around and they had all this technology and thank you,
Speaker 8: they had all this technology in relation to activating the
Speaker 8: HEMI sink and they didn't seem to stable either. Uh
Speaker 8: So it seems like it's uh, you know, practiced among
Speaker 8: a few people, especially those that are leaning towards the technocracy.
Speaker 8: In these guys case, they were leaning towards the techno god.
Speaker 8: Even they were a little loopy obviously, But there is
Speaker 8: an idea in Taichi I wanted to share. We always
Speaker 8: hear about how we only use eight percent of our
Speaker 8: brain right well, in reflect to meditation, we also, I
Speaker 8: would argue, only use eight percent of our body potential.
Speaker 8: And that doesn't mean we need to go to the gym,
Speaker 8: but just this mind body connection that is reflected in
Speaker 8: this document is something that we are inhibited to use
Speaker 8: as much. And I would say, if we could increase
Speaker 8: the percentage of that, will we'll really tap in, so
Speaker 8: to speak.
Speaker 4: So I have a question, are we on the verge
Speaker 4: of a side tech revolution where there will be technology
Speaker 4: lgy that can amp up SIGH abilities long enough to
Speaker 4: maybe make a big bank robbery or I don't know,
Speaker 4: hack somebody's account, take all of their crypto. Are we
Speaker 4: on a side tech revolution tip that could be a
Speaker 4: whole different thing. That's happening here. I mean, that's what
Speaker 4: they're talking about. It's like, all these things can be induced.
Speaker 4: So what are you trying to induce? You know, is
Speaker 4: there a power that's deployed with this. I mean, that's
Speaker 4: an interesting question.
Speaker 8: It makes me think too, like if that does tend
Speaker 8: to be a big problem, what would the solution be?
Speaker 8: Microchip would be right, well, in.
Speaker 1: Two they would be able to I mean, I know
Speaker 1: it's neural link. I remember when that came out and
Speaker 1: reading like that eighty page document. You know, you would
Speaker 1: be able to share bodily sensations with other people and
Speaker 1: memories and things that you've seen and stuff like that.
Speaker 1: So I mean you could probably like induce like a
Speaker 1: Kondolini state or like any of these kinds of states,
Speaker 1: just mechanically through that. I also wanted to say that, No,
Speaker 1: I don't remember what else I was gonna say. I
Speaker 1: feel you, but h yeah, maybe it'll come back to me.
Speaker 1: Oh no, okay, yeah, I do remember. I feel like
Speaker 1: with the Zizians, like I can see people going crazy,
Speaker 1: like if they are like using certain effects to like
Speaker 1: bypass the left side of the brain and they're just
Speaker 1: going straight into the subconscious and programming things. I mean,
Speaker 1: if you're not careful about what you're programming into there,
Speaker 1: you could probably mess your brain up.
Speaker 2: I totally agree.
Speaker 7: I think if you look at like even when we
Speaker 7: covered and like covered what they were even like into
Speaker 7: with the brain shit, and then just look at the
Speaker 7: stuff they got caught with and some of the drugs
Speaker 7: that these things these people were taking, Like what do
Speaker 7: you expect you're gonna have a crazy motherfucker.
Speaker 2: At some point?
Speaker 1: Well, and two it's like, I mean that's where so
Speaker 1: many cathonics themes come out, where like if your subconscious
Speaker 1: patterns are like corrupted or confused or there's a gap there,
Speaker 1: like that's where our fears and like confusing like imagery
Speaker 1: can come about, like nightmares and all sorts of those
Speaker 1: fearful kind of things, scary experiences sometimes, I think, even
Speaker 1: like hallucinations and stuff.
Speaker 8: Yeah, and even without these like mechanical enhancements, if you will,
Speaker 8: there's warnings that come with definitely Chi gung and I
Speaker 8: don't know about yoga so much, and definitely not so
Speaker 8: much taichi, but there's warnings that you can get chi
Speaker 8: madness essentially right just from meditating in the kind of
Speaker 8: wrong course if you will.
Speaker 1: Interesting.
Speaker 4: Interesting, I just I keep coming back to the idea
Speaker 4: that now this stuff is public. So what happened after
Speaker 4: they made chad GPT public? Right? What happened after they
Speaker 4: made all of this military technology that created AI public?
Speaker 4: What did they do? Well? Then they started an AI
Speaker 4: arms race? Right now, this stuff has been public for
Speaker 4: a while now, a couple of decades. You don't think
Speaker 4: that there hasn't been a pi ar AI arms race
Speaker 4: going on behind the scenes when it comes to studies
Speaker 4: like this, Oh yeah, Like what are we actually looking at?
Speaker 4: This is like forty years behind the times, and we're
Speaker 4: talking about a lot of compounding technology and techniques. How
Speaker 4: many different new propaganda techniques have been developed on the Internet.
Speaker 4: Do you guys remember when ASMR was not a thing,
Speaker 4: just didn't exist, Right, This is a whole different way
Speaker 4: that they have. We're approaching your brain and getting it
Speaker 4: to think certain thoughts. I think there's a PI arms
Speaker 4: race and stuff like this is reflective of what's actually
Speaker 4: going on maybe forty years ago.
Speaker 2: No, there's people that walk around today.
Speaker 7: If they heard HEMI synk, they think some shit, not
Speaker 7: even believing really, and.
Speaker 1: We're not even in the need of it, because at
Speaker 1: some point they're talking about leaving your body, talking to
Speaker 1: other intelligences and basically crossing the abyss. Even it's kind
Speaker 1: of crazy, okay, So let's see where was I. Thus
Speaker 1: availing itself of the FFR phenomenon and using the technique
Speaker 1: of beat frequencies, the Gateway system uses hemi sync and
Speaker 1: other audio techniques employing the FFR phenomenon to introduce a
Speaker 1: variety of frequencies which are played at a virtually subliminal,
Speaker 1: marginally audible level. The objective is to relax the left
Speaker 1: hemisphere of the brain, place the physical body in a
Speaker 1: virtual sleep state, and bring the left and right hemispheres
Speaker 1: into coherence under conditions designed to promote the production of
Speaker 1: ever higher amplitude and frequency of brainwave output. Audible and
Speaker 1: perhaps subliminal suggestions by Bob Monroe accompany the various brainwave frequencies,
Speaker 1: which are sometimes rolled in together with other sounds such
Speaker 1: as sea surf, to mask the sound frequencies where desirable.
Speaker 1: In this way, Gateway endeavors to provide the subject with
Speaker 1: the tools by which he may alter his consciousness based
Speaker 1: on his own volition over time. Through the repetitive use
Speaker 1: of the tapes so as to access through intuitive means,
Speaker 1: new categories of information not available to ordinary consciousness.
Speaker 2: All right, I'll take over the right role of resonance.
Speaker 7: However, brain coherence through entrainment to beat frequencies it used
Speaker 7: to via stereo headphones is only part of the reason
Speaker 7: why the gateway system works. It is also designed to
Speaker 7: achieve the physical quietude characteristic of deep transcendental meditative states,
Speaker 7: which brings about a complete alteration of the fundamental resonance
Speaker 7: pattern associated with the sound frequencies produced by the human body. Yoga,
Speaker 7: zen or transcendental meditation, if practiced long enough, will produce
Speaker 7: a change in the sound frequency with which the human
Speaker 7: heart resonates through the entire body. According to Bentov, this
Speaker 7: change is This change in resonance results from elimination of
Speaker 7: what the medical profession calls the bifurcation echo, so that
Speaker 7: the sound of the heartbeat can move synchron synchronosis.
Speaker 2: Well, fucking fuck that word.
Speaker 7: Up and down the circulatory system in harmonious resonance approximately
Speaker 7: seven times a second. Benton describes the role played by
Speaker 7: the bifurcation echo as follows. When the left ventricle of
Speaker 7: the heart ejects blood. The order being elastic, balloons out
Speaker 7: just beyond the valve and causes a pressure pulse to
Speaker 7: travel down along the A order. When the pressure pulse
Speaker 7: reaches the bifurcation in the lower sandom in the lower abdomen,
Speaker 7: which is where the aorder forks in two to go
Speaker 7: into the legs, part of the pressure pulse rebounds and
Speaker 7: starts traveling up the A order. If in the meantime
Speaker 7: the heart ejects more blood and a new pressure pulse
Speaker 7: is traveling down, these two pressure points will eventually collide
Speaker 7: somewhere along the order and produce an interference pattern. By
Speaker 7: placing the body in a sleep like state, the gateway
Speaker 7: tapes achieve the same goal as meditation in that it
Speaker 7: places the body in such a profoundly lacked state that
Speaker 7: the bifurcation echoes slowly fades away as the heart lessens
Speaker 7: the forest in frequency with which it pushes blood into
Speaker 7: the order. The result is a regular rhythmic sine wave
Speaker 7: pattern of sound which echoes throughout the body and rises up,
Speaker 7: rises up into the head and sustained residence.
Speaker 2: That's interesting.
Speaker 7: The amplitude of this sine wave pattern one measured with
Speaker 7: a sensitive seismograph type instrument is about three times the
Speaker 7: average of the sound volume produced by the heart when
Speaker 7: it is operating normally. If you want it, you want
Speaker 7: me to read the next one, or just somebody else
Speaker 7: want to go?
Speaker 4: I got it. If you want me to, I'll bet
Speaker 4: the last time. Thomas turn Yeah, yeah, we're gonna get
Speaker 4: We're gonna go at nine. Brain stimulation.
Speaker 3: All right, so uh brain stimulation. Ben Tom's biomedical model
Speaker 3: shows that this resonance is of considerable importance since it
Speaker 3: is all since it is directly transmitted to and impacts
Speaker 3: upon the brain. The resulting vibration is received and transmitted
Speaker 3: into the brain itself via the fluid filled third and
Speaker 3: left ventricles located above the brain stem. An electromagnetic pulse
Speaker 3: is then generated, which stimulates the brain to raise the
Speaker 3: amplitude and frequency of brain wave output, just as doctor
Speaker 3: Twimlow observed in his research on the effects of the
Speaker 3: hemicink tapes. Also, the brain is contained in a tight
Speaker 3: membrane called the dual, which is in turned cushioned by
Speaker 3: a thin layer of fluid located between it and the skull.
Speaker 3: As the coherent resonance produced by the human heart, in
Speaker 3: a state of profound relaxation, reaches the fluid layers surrounding
Speaker 3: the brain. It sets up a rhythmic pattern that's cool,
Speaker 3: in which the brain moves up and down approximately zero
Speaker 3: point zero zero five to zero point zero one zero
Speaker 3: millimeters and a continuous pattern. The self reinforcing character of
Speaker 3: resonant behavior accounts for the body's ability to sustain this
Speaker 3: movement despite the mineral level of energy involved. The minimal
Speaker 3: level of energy involved. In this way, the entire body,
Speaker 3: based on its own, based on its own microemotion, functions
Speaker 3: as a tuned vibrational system which transfers energy in a
Speaker 3: range of between six point eight and seven point five
Speaker 3: herts into the Earth's ionosphere cavity, which itself resonates at
Speaker 3: about seven to seven point five herts. Of this process,
Speaker 3: Bentov states, this is occurring at a very long wavelength
Speaker 3: of about forty thousand kilometers or just about deep. Is
Speaker 3: that kilometers? Please tell me it is? Is there another
Speaker 3: measurement for it? Okay? Kill, okay, sorry, I didn't know
Speaker 3: there was another. I want to make sure I got
Speaker 3: everything right, and I can't do it. I can't do
Speaker 3: a Russian accent or just about the perimeter of the planet.
Speaker 3: In other words, the signal from the movement of our
Speaker 3: bodies will travel around the world in about one seventh
Speaker 3: of second through the electrostatic field in which we are ambitted.
Speaker 3: Such a long wave link knows no obstacles and its
Speaker 3: strength does not inunate. And then I can't I can't
Speaker 3: say that with.
Speaker 2: The Russian.
Speaker 3: Attenuate much over long distance. Okay, I can't do anymore. Guys. Naturally,
Speaker 3: it will go through just about anything metal, concrete, water,
Speaker 3: in the fields making up our bodies. It is the
Speaker 3: ideal medium for conveying a telepathic signal.
Speaker 1: So we can send a signal out and they'll travel
Speaker 1: around the world in about one seventh of a second.
Speaker 3: Verty fucking cool. And we don't know stuff like this,
Speaker 3: you know, like this isn't well.
Speaker 4: The resident frequency again, it's like billiard balls. So you're
Speaker 4: not talking about having that much amplitude, right, is right,
Speaker 4: But it's a very small amount of output over time.
Speaker 4: That is a huge thing, especially when you're talking about
Speaker 4: cosmic radiation. So this is why I.
Speaker 3: Give can you build that output?
Speaker 4: Yes, yes, through resident frequencies that's what they're talking about.
Speaker 4: Throughout this thing. You can create these.
Speaker 1: Oh they also increase the decibel like they I forget
Speaker 1: what they hook up to people, But they will actually
Speaker 1: increase your decibel output.
Speaker 4: It's just feedback loops.
Speaker 3: I'm going to finish this. Consequently, the Gateway process is
Speaker 3: designed to rather rapidly induce a state of profound calm
Speaker 3: within the nervous system and to significantly lower blood pressure
Speaker 3: to calls the circulatory system, skeleton, and all other physical
Speaker 3: organ systems to begin vibrating coherently at approximately seven to
Speaker 3: seven point five cycles per second. The resulting resonance sets
Speaker 3: up a regular repetitive sound wave prop which propa, which
Speaker 3: propagates in consonance with the electrostatic field of the earth.
Speaker 3: A lot of big words for me. I'm with the
Speaker 3: public schools. I say this all the time.
Speaker 4: The reason why I was, the reason why I was
Speaker 4: insisting he used a Russian accent is because of the
Speaker 4: book Psychic Discoveries Behind the Iron Curtain. So this was
Speaker 4: actually the start of the remote viewing movement was Psychic
Speaker 4: Discoveries Behind the Iron Curtain. So the CIA read that book,
Speaker 4: which was based off of a lot of you know,
Speaker 4: I guess would say secret agents that couldn't get their
Speaker 4: stuff up to the top brass. So they published a
Speaker 4: book about all of the things that Russians were doing
Speaker 4: with psychic research in English, and then that program created
Speaker 4: a psychic's arms race in America to produce the remote
Speaker 4: viewers that you know of today, including Joe McGonagall. So
Speaker 4: the Russians kind of started the whole thing moving, but
Speaker 4: we kind of give credit to ourselves and our Cia,
Speaker 4: even though it was the Russians that started the psychical
Speaker 4: research that has produced all of this stuff that we're
Speaker 4: reading right now, within very very low amount of time.
Speaker 4: We got basically cut off of the psychic research in
Speaker 4: nineteen ninety five. That was it. There hasn't been anything
Speaker 4: else in the psychic research space except for one thing,
Speaker 4: which is the autistic kids. It's the only scientific research
Speaker 4: that they've published about psychical research since nineteen ninety five,
Speaker 4: which is strange. If you ask me, it's really interesting.
Speaker 8: And actually bentov I was going to say he was
Speaker 8: check and he had a really successful business on top
Speaker 8: of his interest in consciousness. His business now is a
Speaker 8: billion dollar medical industry business and rabbit hole of his
Speaker 8: existence in life. He died in a plane crash, So
Speaker 8: and just one.
Speaker 3: Of those A lot of them do man, Yeah.
Speaker 4: Surprise, surprise, all right. Number ten, Energy and trainment. As
Speaker 4: the body is turning into a coherent oscillator vibrating in
Speaker 4: harmony with the surrounding electionctro electrostatic medium, the specific exercises
Speaker 4: included in the gateway tapes enjoy the participant to build
Speaker 4: up the energy field surrounding his body, presumably by using
Speaker 4: energy from the Earth's field, which the body is now
Speaker 4: in training because of its ability to resonate with it.
Speaker 4: This puts the body's energy field into homogeneity with the
Speaker 4: surrounding environment and promotes movement of the seat of consciousness
Speaker 4: into the surrounding environment. Arely in response to the fact
Speaker 4: that the two electromagnetic medians are now a single energy continuum.
Speaker 4: Have you guys noticed how they've got a dearth of
Speaker 4: vocabulary when it comes to the idea of these auras,
Speaker 4: they don't really have the vocabulary to talk about what
Speaker 4: they're seeing. Thus, the same process which moves the brain
Speaker 4: into focus coherent steadily at steadily higher levels of frequency
Speaker 4: in amplitude so as to train analogous frequencies in the
Speaker 4: universe for data collection, also promotes enhancement of bodily energy
Speaker 4: levels to a point adequate to permit the subject to
Speaker 4: experience an out of body movement, which he is ready
Speaker 4: to do so. More will be said about this topic later.
Speaker 4: In addition, this is the big sales pitch that Monroe
Speaker 4: was making to the CIA, is that he can get
Speaker 4: people out of body and using their entire sensory frequency
Speaker 4: to start looking at stuff anyways. In addition, by resonating
Speaker 4: with the Earth's electromagnetic sphere, the human body creates a
Speaker 4: surprisingly powerful carrier wave to assist the mind in communication
Speaker 4: activity with other human minds summarily too. So just one
Speaker 4: more point, Robert Monroe said that I can pull all
Speaker 4: of your senses out of your body into this this
Speaker 4: field that has a silver cord going back to your
Speaker 4: physical body. That's his sales pitch to all of these
Speaker 4: remote viewers is that now you can have full body
Speaker 4: sensory analysis. That did not work out every single time.
Speaker 3: I don't want nobody touching my silver cord, dude.
Speaker 4: Well, again, like the remote viewers would see things, but
Speaker 4: they wouldn't be out of body and thinking of themselves
Speaker 4: into a different carrier as they're seeing it right. So
Speaker 4: when me and Nick did the whole you know, remote
Speaker 4: viewing episode, neither one of us was thinking about projecting
Speaker 4: our spirit bodies to see something. We were just seeing it.
Speaker 4: That's a difference between what Monroe's offering and the sort
Speaker 4: of pictorial reference material that remote viewing was offering at
Speaker 4: the time, right, which is it's like flipping through photos.
Speaker 4: We're not talking about being outside of the body and
Speaker 4: keeping track of all of those other senses. It's just
Speaker 4: looking through photos. That's what remote viewing is versus Bob
Speaker 4: Monroe's version, which is out of body experiences still a
Speaker 4: perception issue.
Speaker 8: It's really interesting the remote viewing, where it comes from.
Speaker 8: I think they even still kind of debate on where
Speaker 8: it comes from, how which way it works, and sometimes
Speaker 8: for some people it works different manners they do. I've
Speaker 8: noticed a lot of times describe it as a martial
Speaker 8: art and a physical aptitude, a physical thing, and one
Speaker 8: of the things they talk about in suggestion. I think
Speaker 8: this works for intuition in general too. Don't to use nouns,
Speaker 8: use describer words, and really tensile kind of concepts, really
Speaker 8: bodily sensation ideas perfect.
Speaker 4: So please tell us what were you going to say, no,
Speaker 4: this is my exaltation. Do you Why aren't you doing
Speaker 4: like tai chi lessons? You could do that on YouTube
Speaker 4: and just monetize your stuff. I all watch it every
Speaker 4: day and this is a daily practice that we're talking about, right.
Speaker 8: Sure, Sure, tai chi is really difficult to share, you know,
Speaker 8: in this world. I think people don't want to take
Speaker 8: that responsibility. And it's well, I think that people you
Speaker 8: know want to do it, but do they actually do it?
Speaker 2: Right?
Speaker 8: It's like working out. It's it's not something that anyone
Speaker 8: but like obsessive compulsive, you know, people really take on
Speaker 8: to learn because it's it can be difficult, and it
Speaker 8: usually kind of turns the people off because it's difficult.
Speaker 4: I've done so many chigong programs on YouTube, and there's
Speaker 4: so many thick because I don't know the person. I
Speaker 4: know you. I want to do your tai chi program,
Speaker 4: That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 8: Yeah, well, I just I just want it is one
Speaker 8: the Cult Research Institute, the Taichi article uh and I
Speaker 8: have accompanying video and it's got four very simple movements
Speaker 8: or postures, and and i'd be I will share more headless. Absolutely,
Speaker 8: I will I will, at your request, share more.
Speaker 2: For sure.
Speaker 4: That's what I'm looking for, and it's so helpful. It's
Speaker 4: so helpful.
Speaker 8: In regards to I saw this, there's this advertisement for
Speaker 8: taichi workouts to become muscular. Well, you could use tai
Speaker 8: chi or chi gung to become muscular. But again, it's
Speaker 8: more about enhancing what you already have. Enhancing your circulatory
Speaker 8: and nervous system. Opening your nervous system up makes your
Speaker 8: strength actually increased. Right, you're you, You're really mostly we're
Speaker 8: functioning like in a dream right where we can't run
Speaker 8: as fast as we want to. Right, Well, when your
Speaker 8: nervous system opens up, you start to really be able
Speaker 8: to function higher.
Speaker 4: Embracing the hero.
Speaker 1: I would be interested.
Speaker 8: Yeah, I'll definitely, definitely I'll make I'll make more videos
Speaker 8: for you guys.
Speaker 7: For sure, I would probably try it. That's no, no,
Speaker 7: because I have Actually I was told. I was like, ooh,
Speaker 7: I actually would check out that shit. I was like,
Speaker 7: I should ask Ethan what he would suggest.
Speaker 2: That would only make sense. It only makes sense if
Speaker 2: you put it out.
Speaker 8: I would just use your shit and and yeah, headless,
Speaker 8: you're right. It is an everyday practice. Even you can
Speaker 8: begin with the most basic thing. They mentioned zen meditation
Speaker 8: in this already, which is tai chi chi young. In
Speaker 8: those days, anyway, you can just do the universal pillar,
Speaker 8: which is just a standing posture, and you create a
Speaker 8: vessel thereby to hold GI more efficiently. So stillness is
Speaker 8: zen meditation. It's the originals zen that transformed into the
Speaker 8: Buddhist meditation that we know so well. So it can
Speaker 8: be really simple, but it's a daily practice, and it's
Speaker 8: very much like adding a telephone book paper every day,
Speaker 8: and eventually you have the resilience of a telephone book.
Speaker 8: That's how they kind of describe the quality of cheat
Speaker 8: building and so on.
Speaker 4: So appreciate it with you, because I think between the
Speaker 4: three of us we could probably come up with a
Speaker 4: really badass, magical, cheap program. I think that would be amazing.
Speaker 3: I think you wanted to say something. I'm sorry, Ethan,
Speaker 3: go ahead.
Speaker 2: No, no, I was gonna say something.
Speaker 3: We all we all were going to say something.
Speaker 2: All right, well where were you?
Speaker 8: Okay? So should we should I continue reading?
Speaker 3: You're going to continue. I don't know if Aarons wanted
Speaker 3: to say what she wanted to say, but.
Speaker 1: I guess oh, no, no, I didn't have anything to say. Sorry,
Speaker 1: I thought I'm just fidgety. I'm a fidgety person.
Speaker 8: I mean, well, I'm now inspired by your inspiration to
Speaker 8: learn taichi. I always feed off of that inspiration and
Speaker 8: to that, I was thinking. People think meditation takes time.
Speaker 8: Learning takes time. Taichi takes time. Meditation makes time. You
Speaker 8: are more efficient throughout the day and get things done
Speaker 8: when you meditate. Right, So you actually make time when
Speaker 8: you meditate. Just to give people some inspiration that that
Speaker 8: I'm feeling now, okay, so consciousness and energy. I'll try
Speaker 8: not to stumble.
Speaker 1: I want to say something really quick. He likes my shirt,
Speaker 1: not your shirt.
Speaker 4: Slam dunk.
Speaker 7: You know what I wanted to ask you, Ethan, because
Speaker 7: I think you mentioned some kind of like pillar meditation.
Speaker 7: Did you ever did you ever hear of visual regard
Speaker 7: Israel Regardi's middle pillar?
Speaker 2: Have you ever tried that meditation?
Speaker 8: Say that again? You broke up on.
Speaker 2: I think it's Israel regarding who came up with it?
Speaker 11: Uh?
Speaker 2: The middle pillar? Yeah, you should check that out. It's
Speaker 2: a meditation.
Speaker 7: It's pretty I loved it.
Speaker 8: I think it's a middle pillar meditation. He calls it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, it's called the middle pillar.
Speaker 7: Yeah, and it uses like five out of the seven
Speaker 7: chakras too as as you go down.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: But it's.
Speaker 4: Because I think between the three of us we can
Speaker 4: come up with something really cool when it comes to
Speaker 4: like body formations and chigong and tight sheet energy. I
Speaker 4: just think it would be it's necessary we all think
Speaker 4: about that we're lacking a body consciousness. Like, you know,
Speaker 4: it's kind of embarrassing to say, but we don't have
Speaker 4: body consciousness. We're all up in our heads, you know.
Speaker 7: I'm even wondered if that's even part of like doing
Speaker 7: rituals was just a whole body and stuff too as well.
Speaker 7: Even you start doing all these poses and ship and
Speaker 7: it's like, you know, there's gotta be multiple reasons you're
Speaker 7: doing it.
Speaker 8: And actually there was a whole series of experiments that
Speaker 8: the US government did and and probably the Soviets too,
Speaker 8: in regards to the physicality of remote viewing, and they
Speaker 8: were trying to figure out where it came from, and
Speaker 8: they would they went about bringing people into minds, into caves,
Speaker 8: into what are those rooms where no electromagnetic frequency can
Speaker 8: get in skiffs, all these different all these different places
Speaker 8: that blocked off all these different energies. The last one
Speaker 8: that they were trying to figure out was E l F,
Speaker 8: which was a real big concept during this time period too.
Speaker 8: Uh the ultra low frequency is it something low frequency?
Speaker 8: And they had to go in a submarine to cancel
Speaker 8: out the ELF and and so they actually I think
Speaker 8: it was left undetermined through all these tests on the
Speaker 8: physicality of the vibration, they could still couldn't track it.
Speaker 4: Sounds like they're describing a magical ritual.
Speaker 8: Well, yeah, and they were. It was. It was intertwined, right,
Speaker 8: I mean, though all of this stuff is intertwined. And
Speaker 8: there's that missing page of this series that came out
Speaker 8: many years later that kind of we used it all
Speaker 8: together fine later nice, Okay, So we're i'm I'm, I'm babbling.
Speaker 4: From the magician number eleven.
Speaker 8: So, uh, consciousness and energy. Before our explanation can proceed
Speaker 8: any further, it is essential to defind the mechanism by
Speaker 8: which the human mind exercises the function known as consciousness,
Speaker 8: and to describe the way in which that consciousness operates
Speaker 8: to deduce meaning from the stimuli which it receives. To
Speaker 8: do this, excuse me, We will first consider the fundamental
Speaker 8: character of the material world in which we have our
Speaker 8: physical existence. In order to accurately perceive the raw stuff
Speaker 8: with which our consciousness must work. The first point which
Speaker 8: needs to be made is that the two terms matter
Speaker 8: and energy tend to be misleading if taken to indicate
Speaker 8: two distinctly different states of existence in the physical world
Speaker 8: that we know it. Indeed, if the term matter is
Speaker 8: taken to mean solid substance, as opposed to energy, which
Speaker 8: is understood to mean a force of some sort, then
Speaker 8: the use of the former is entirely misleading. Science now
Speaker 8: knows that both the electrons which spin in the energy
Speaker 8: field located around the nucleus of the atom and the
Speaker 8: nucleus itself are made up of nothing more than oscillating
Speaker 8: energy grids. Solid matter, in the strict construction of the term,
Speaker 8: simply does not exist. Rather, atomic structure is composed of
Speaker 8: oscillating energy grids, which is that is a wild concept
Speaker 8: excuse my interjection, surrounded by other oscillating energy grids which
Speaker 8: orbit as at extraordinarily high speeds. In his book Stalking
Speaker 8: the Wild Pendulum, izok Bentov gives the following figures. The
Speaker 8: energy grid which composes the nucleus of the atom vibrates
Speaker 8: at approximately ten What would that number be twenty two
Speaker 8: squared types. How would you say that ten? Twenty two squared.
Speaker 1: Second?
Speaker 8: Thank you, thank you. Ten to the twenty second power
Speaker 8: kersh hurts, which means ten, followed by twenty two zeros
Speaker 8: at seventy degrees fairy night, and atom oscillates at the
Speaker 8: rate of ten to the fifteenth hurts. An entire molecule
Speaker 8: composed of a number of atoms bound together in a
Speaker 8: single energy field vibrates in a rage of ten to
Speaker 8: the ninth hurts. A live human cell vibrates at approximately
Speaker 8: ten to the third hurts. The point to be made
Speaker 8: is that the entire human being, brain, consciousness, and all
Speaker 8: is like the universe which surrounds him, nothing more or
Speaker 8: less than an extraordinarily complex system of energy fields. The
Speaker 8: so called states of matter are actually variances in the
Speaker 8: state of energy, and human consciousness is a function of
Speaker 8: the interaction of energy in two opposite states motion versus
Speaker 8: rest or. We could say the two pillars. If you
Speaker 8: get esoteric, excuse me in a manner described in the
Speaker 8: following paragraph. I mean that brings together so many esoterica.
Speaker 4: Did he just say that the two fundamental primary polarities
Speaker 4: are uh, tension and release, because I say that all
Speaker 4: the time.
Speaker 2: There you have.
Speaker 8: And and that's a very tai chi idea too. The
Speaker 8: yin and yang represents that the four humors almost have
Speaker 8: that too, right, right, And and I would say that
Speaker 8: relaxation and tension or as you as you put it,
Speaker 8: release and.
Speaker 4: What tension and release? So it's.
Speaker 8: Yeah, yeah you can. That's actually a tai chi exercise
Speaker 8: is just stimulating tension and relaxation going going from uh,
Speaker 8: these extremes.
Speaker 4: Not know how much force? How much force am I
Speaker 4: placing against my finger? Do you know how much focus
Speaker 4: and force I'm actually placing against my finger? Can anybody
Speaker 4: actually make sure the conscious energy that is placed in
Speaker 4: one single centimeter? This is the fundamental issue when it
Speaker 4: comes to meditation, is what are thoughts made of? Can
Speaker 4: you concentrate thoughts?
Speaker 1: Yeah? It makes me think of that X post that
Speaker 1: I put out recently that like consciousness is alive and
Speaker 1: it's it animates itself and it brings itself into form.
Speaker 1: But yeah, I mean thought on its own without a brain,
Speaker 1: you know, I don't know, seems like you need a brain.
Speaker 4: What our spirits.
Speaker 8: We do need a brain, and we we also at
Speaker 8: the same time require it. We need to shed a
Speaker 8: lot of its compound interest.
Speaker 1: Right Like.
Speaker 8: Generally we're kind of wired to think about really survival
Speaker 8: based negative stuff even, right, so, just rewiring things to
Speaker 8: think about, you know, higher ideas, which it's just crazy
Speaker 8: to read the military writing in with all this esoteric stuff.
Speaker 4: Military concepts. Sorry, hellis, I was going to say, military
Speaker 4: concepts on states of consciousness is a really interesting concept,
Speaker 4: especially for me who has been through basic training. So
Speaker 4: I understand how the military thinks about the recruits, right
Speaker 4: They think of you in a certain way. They don't
Speaker 4: necessarily know what you're thinking back at them, what this is.
Speaker 4: It seems like they're looking at ways of trying to
Speaker 4: figure that out because they really don't understand what you're
Speaker 4: thinking back at them, and so they're trying to get
Speaker 4: in touch with that and they really don't have the
Speaker 4: vocabulary to express it because they've kind of been shutting
Speaker 4: it down all these years. You're not allowed to say
Speaker 4: these things.
Speaker 1: Well, they also sorry, no, go ahead. Well they're also
Speaker 1: building up to this part in the document where they
Speaker 1: talk about how when you leave the body, you're just
Speaker 1: like an intelligence, and so you don't have a brain,
Speaker 1: so you can't really store the things that like you
Speaker 1: learn out there, but you do. You kind of exist
Speaker 1: as the intelligence that you have before you leave the body.
Speaker 1: But you yeah, you can't like really learn as just
Speaker 1: an intelligence, but you can still like communicate with like
Speaker 1: these other beings and stuff like that. Basically, it's like
Speaker 1: it's a lot like kind of neo Platonic ideas of like,
Speaker 1: you know, these higher beings that they don't have bodies,
Speaker 1: and so they don't have like they're more mechanical, they
Speaker 1: don't have.
Speaker 4: Do you know about the cup of Letha? No, So
Speaker 4: Hygiea is supposed to offer the cup of Leta to
Speaker 4: the soul's reincarnating from the underworld, from Hades' realm, and
Speaker 4: so this cup of Letha is from the river in
Speaker 4: one of the underworld you know, rivers, and it makes
Speaker 4: you forget. So Leta means that you forget. A lathia
Speaker 4: means that you remember beyond one life to the next.
Speaker 4: A lathia was coined by a guy named Parmenides and
Speaker 4: his uh poem on nature and what Parmenides was trying
Speaker 4: to enunciate by saying, alethea is that memory persists beyond materiality.
Speaker 4: It persists beyond one life to the next. There's an
Speaker 4: informational field, something exists that can transfer our souls into
Speaker 4: the future. We're not just separated between death and reality.
Speaker 4: There's something else that draws us back. And in that case,
Speaker 4: I think Alethea is a perfect idea of remembering the
Speaker 4: soul that is coming back into creation. What they're trying
Speaker 4: to describe now with all of this stuff is a
Speaker 4: reconnection of the harmony with that original vibration. I think
Speaker 4: it's a beautiful thing.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it certainly interesting, and yeah, I like how much
Speaker 1: it aligns with like metaphysics.
Speaker 3: Absolutely, Uh, Ethan, were you done reading?
Speaker 2: Yes?
Speaker 7: Okay, okay, Uh, I want to wrap it up now.
Speaker 7: I was just thinking, maybe, I don't know, if we
Speaker 7: go another whole row with people, that could be it
Speaker 7: could be like.
Speaker 3: Another Say, iagine know that the document was was this long?
Speaker 3: It's pretty long?
Speaker 2: No, No, I said, I didn't.
Speaker 7: I did not think we'd get through all of it
Speaker 7: in one show, right.
Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, we can always come back in a few
Speaker 2: weeks ago more.
Speaker 3: Absolutely, and I don't like.
Speaker 2: To continue it actually.
Speaker 3: There's a lot packed Yeah, I'm I may I may
Speaker 3: read this over the weekend. There's there's a lot packed
Speaker 3: into this.
Speaker 7: No, there's a lot of share I mean again there
Speaker 7: aeros Can I even tell you there's a lot more
Speaker 7: stuff in definitely.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I've just been reading and just kind of thinking.
Speaker 3: You know, there's a lot having to do with thought
Speaker 3: forms and here you know, I'm real big on thought
Speaker 3: forms and aggregres. Everybody knows that and uh creating them
Speaker 3: And what about zegeist occult science behind it? What's up?
Speaker 1: Oh?
Speaker 3: Yeah, heav I was talking about the zeit guys. We
Speaker 3: got to get into that too in the in the
Speaker 3: Genius Lowcui. We always love talking about that on my show.
Speaker 3: But so yeah, I have to dive into this a
Speaker 3: little further, talk about the zy guys. Head let's before
Speaker 3: we get out of here.
Speaker 4: If you like, well, Zeitgeist is like the spirit of
Speaker 4: the age. You can even assert that the uh the Pisces,
Speaker 4: you know, living in the Age of Pisces is sort
Speaker 4: of coming to an end. We're coming to a different
Speaker 4: phase of reality, which would be a different vibration of thinking.
Speaker 4: And in a lot of ways, what they were talking
Speaker 4: about the Age of Aquarius has already been fulfilled and
Speaker 4: we're not even catching up to that reality yet. Right now,
Speaker 4: we're looking at each other through a screen that is
Speaker 4: being broadcast over waves through air like a watery air sign,
Speaker 4: and we're in the Age of Aquarius, and we're talking
Speaker 4: over a watery air sign about spiritual topics. It kind
Speaker 4: of seems like we're in the Age of Aquarius. Guys,
Speaker 4: are you following me?
Speaker 3: You know?
Speaker 4: I mean, like, here's the new world religion. That's what
Speaker 4: happens every time you change one of these signs. Right
Speaker 4: We're in a new world religion and we barely even
Speaker 4: register it yet. It's strange how that happens. So all
Speaker 4: I'm saying is that there are new ways of seeing
Speaker 4: the world. We've sort of transitioned, and nobody really noticed.
Speaker 4: Everybody was looking for a cataclysm, but what if it
Speaker 4: was just a different way of seeing things. Oh it's huge.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that's really a big point. The truth
Speaker 2: of this.
Speaker 3: I totally agree on them and awakening of some sort.
Speaker 7: No, I mean there is parts and I don't want
Speaker 7: to start sounding like, you know, pro like thlamic and
Speaker 7: certain things, But when you even look at the story
Speaker 7: of Horror about the way they look at him as
Speaker 7: being the rebellious child. I see that with my generation
Speaker 7: kind of right where we aren't buying the bullshit, and
Speaker 7: we also don't really kind of like the way our
Speaker 7: parents fucking dealt with us either. We don't agree with
Speaker 7: that either, right, so we're kind of rebelling against the
Speaker 7: whole system.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 7: There's a lot of people I know that I are
Speaker 7: actually actively like changing their lives, and we're all around
Speaker 7: the same age, and we're realizing a lot of it
Speaker 7: was due to what we were bred to believe, and
Speaker 7: we actually don't agree with it anymore. You know, it's
Speaker 7: a fucked up way to live. I want, you know,
Speaker 7: my decision, it's my life, you know. And I think
Speaker 7: you're seeing that just in multiple ways. It doesn't even
Speaker 7: have to be in the conspiracy community, just people in general.
Speaker 7: And I think that has a change the way the
Speaker 7: society is going to move go forward as well.
Speaker 1: I'm excited about it. I'm excited for the Age of Aquarius.
Speaker 3: You know, what a time to be alive.
Speaker 1: You know, bring down that piscean power.
Speaker 4: You would you would.
Speaker 3: Yourself.
Speaker 4: I mean, look, look, there's so much self contradictory stuff
Speaker 4: that we could already see that is embodied with the
Speaker 4: sign of Aquarius. You know, Aquarius is the self contradictory side.
Speaker 4: It's it's crazy how weird Aquarius is. Like if you
Speaker 4: look at the different symbolism associated with it, it.
Speaker 3: Really starts with water in general.
Speaker 4: You know, yes, yes, water is a gas and liquid. Right,
Speaker 4: there's there's all these strange attributes to water and liquids
Speaker 4: in general. But now you're talking about like it's the
Speaker 4: watery air. To me, it's the radio waves are the
Speaker 4: watery air. Those are the waves through the air themselves. Right,
Speaker 4: We're living on our cell phones and all we see
Speaker 4: is what comes to us through these different layers of
Speaker 4: watery air. I mean, that's that's a new world religion, right,
Speaker 4: I mean, that's that's what people used to connect over.
Speaker 4: Everything was about the community, and they got together over
Speaker 4: their religion all throughout these different eons. And now we're
Speaker 4: looking at a new eon that's based off of a
Speaker 4: similar concept.
Speaker 1: And you know, Uranus and lightning bolts, which is very
Speaker 1: you know, watery sky. But it's I mean it's good
Speaker 1: because it's I mean, Aquarius doesn't like consolidated power, and
Speaker 1: it is very diffusion, very pro community and individualism. So
Speaker 1: it's like both both of the best worlds, right because
Speaker 1: you get to be individuals and have community, and it
Speaker 1: is these utopian ideals. So yeah, I'm looking forward to it,
Speaker 1: just but I think we still have I mean it technically,
Speaker 1: I don't think that it starts until like the actual
Speaker 1: Earth's tilt. Is it fully inaquarius until like two thousand,
Speaker 1: one hundred and fifty, But we are kind of like
Speaker 1: where those two constellations are like overlapping a little bit,
Speaker 1: and so it's.
Speaker 4: Kind of shit errows. You gotta look at this historically,
Speaker 4: this would be the arms race. Two one hundred and
Speaker 4: fifty would be the date that the dominance begins, and
Speaker 4: then the decline after that would would follow. So there
Speaker 4: are different phases to these different eons that we could
Speaker 4: see happening with, uh, the Age of Pisces, you know,
Speaker 4: the rise of Christ and before that, the Age of
Speaker 4: the ram you know, all these things have the same
Speaker 4: kind of signatures. Literally, yes, the Age.
Speaker 1: Of Pisces began at one CE, inga Jesus' birth, so
Speaker 1: this has been that age and you can we have
Speaker 1: a very Semitic powers.
Speaker 7: Have you ever heard of the date of Jesus them
Speaker 7: saying that maybe it's for He's not not exactly the
Speaker 7: first year, but the fourth year.
Speaker 2: Have you ever heard of that that? No, well, it's
Speaker 2: kind of I mean, I do think it's actually like
Speaker 2: accepted as like possibly or true. Actually. And the weird
Speaker 2: thing is, I don't know if most people know that.
Speaker 7: If you happen to believe in that that actually came
Speaker 7: from Johannes Kepler, Oh my.
Speaker 3: God, I get it. Sorry, I just had I just
Speaker 3: had a revelation in my mind.
Speaker 7: It's find that interesting that guy was gonna call this,
Speaker 7: you know whatever I mean there with so much, so
Speaker 7: much of what we believe is outside our windows came
Speaker 7: from him. And if you see what he was into
Speaker 7: and what his family was into. He had to go
Speaker 7: to court and defend for his mother and she wasn't
Speaker 7: a witch. These are the people that are determining what
Speaker 7: the fuck we look at, yo. That motherfucker stole Tacho
Speaker 7: brought his work. Basically, yes, as soon as he died,
Speaker 7: the motherfucker tried to swipe up his ship, and the
Speaker 7: family even.
Speaker 2: Tried to take it back from him.
Speaker 4: So dude, you have to listen to his rendition of
Speaker 4: Tycho Brahi. Tycho is determining how people see the universe
Speaker 4: around them, and he's fighting against not only the Catholic
Speaker 4: Church but also the crowd. And after he dies, they
Speaker 4: end up bulldozing his shit. And there's not really a
Speaker 4: reason why they would do that. Like, he's just looking
Speaker 4: up at the sky. It doesn't make any sense why
Speaker 4: they would make a castle, just just destroy a castle
Speaker 4: for no reason, you know, but that's what he's doing.
Speaker 4: He's just looking up at the sky. So maybe there's
Speaker 4: something to this shit.
Speaker 7: Yeah, Like I didn't even have a telescope, you know,
Speaker 7: he did all that shit by fred Eye and like
Speaker 7: wooden things that he made dump shit into the ground,
Speaker 7: so move it wind. The fucking guy was nuts. Yeah,
Speaker 7: just a very interesting story if you kind of look
Speaker 7: at the whole Tychobrahie a couple of connections and like
Speaker 7: the impact he's even had on religious stuff.
Speaker 1: You did episodes on that, didn't you.
Speaker 2: I'm working on him now.
Speaker 7: I'm actually editing the episode, so hopefully I'll haven't done
Speaker 7: it a few days.
Speaker 3: So yeah, So with the beginning of a new age
Speaker 3: comes the end of an old power. We need to
Speaker 3: destroy that old aggrigor guys.
Speaker 2: Yes, it's very fascist eggregroom.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, that's how I keep it.
Speaker 2: For me. It's like, yo, like what I was talking
Speaker 2: about before, like just keep it real.
Speaker 7: Like I grew up in an Italian family. I mean,
Speaker 7: come on, there's gonna be fascism in there somewhere, you know,
Speaker 7: when the Italian allow'll just keep it real, like at
Speaker 7: some point, you know, my family before they moved over here,
Speaker 7: accepted some of Italy's fascism because it came too much.
Speaker 7: And then you left and you brought over the accepted part,
Speaker 7: which was very verbally mind fucking people to do whatever
Speaker 7: you want. The Italians are great at that, and that's
Speaker 7: you know, that was part of something that I realized
Speaker 7: that didn't work with me anymore. I'm not being manipulated
Speaker 7: because I was told, you know, because I said so,
Speaker 7: that's not a fucking answer. There's no depth to that
Speaker 7: fucking answer. I want to know why because you said so,
Speaker 7: fuck you? Well sorry, someways.
Speaker 4: I see, I see a lot of what il Duce
Speaker 4: was doing was he was actually trying to ask why
Speaker 4: should we have to accept every everything the rest of
Speaker 4: Europe wants to put on us. He was he was
Speaker 4: the home of everything, right, I mean, the Roman Catholic
Speaker 4: Church was the center of everything for a long time
Speaker 4: until you know, people like you know, the fascist dictators
Speaker 4: are like, what the fuck happened? We don't have any
Speaker 4: power anymore?
Speaker 1: Right?
Speaker 4: They were asking the question. That's that's what Mussolini was doing.
Speaker 4: He was asking the question what was all of this for?
Speaker 4: What are we doing here? And he really didn't find
Speaker 4: any answers. You know, wait, nobody knew what was the
Speaker 4: European project all about? And you know, for instance, Musolini
Speaker 4: he wasn't necessarily a hardcore Christian. He was just thinking
Speaker 4: about his own people, and he was like, what did
Speaker 4: the Italian people gain from all of this conquisadors and
Speaker 4: all the rest of this European expansionism? What did they get?
Speaker 4: And he didn't have any answers. I mean, Hitler didn't
Speaker 4: have any answers either. Nobody did they really get control?
Speaker 4: Who's got control at this point? Who's calling the shots?
Speaker 3: So many different.
Speaker 1: Groups, I mean, wouldn't you say, like.
Speaker 3: Maybe it's all one they all I don't.
Speaker 4: Know, largely the focus everybody is focused on one certain
Speaker 4: group all the time, and if we focused on ourselves,
Speaker 4: we wouldn't have to face all of this geopolitical turmoil.
Speaker 4: Just focus on yourselves, people, anybody else. We don't have
Speaker 4: to do that.
Speaker 3: But that's why it's pushed on.
Speaker 8: Gandhi said it so well, if you want to change
Speaker 8: the world, change yourself. I think something like that.
Speaker 3: You guys.
Speaker 2: Uh. I said that once and I was told I
Speaker 2: had white privilege.
Speaker 3: Exactly, you have too much white privilege. You need you
Speaker 3: need to I was like, wow, thanks, give some of
Speaker 3: it to me, dude.
Speaker 4: It's a sort question every time.
Speaker 1: It is definitely Abrahamic religions that are like most empowered
Speaker 1: and most popular.
Speaker 3: They use especially Yeah, they use people's faith against them,
Speaker 3: the mass population. Right, and uh, empathy is done to
Speaker 3: people right.
Speaker 4: It's empathy is a weapon all the time, whether you're
Speaker 4: trying to save somebody else or save yourselves. When you
Speaker 4: use empathy as a weapon, everything crumbles. It's like the
Speaker 4: snake idiot's own tail.
Speaker 2: People know it's convincing people sympathy over empathy.
Speaker 7: That's the whole I was even saying along that lines
Speaker 7: when I had that whole thing spewed at me the
Speaker 7: whole white privilege shit. I was getting into the whole thing,
Speaker 7: and even Crowley said something like that, and I was saying,
Speaker 7: That's what I thought was a problem with the OTO
Speaker 7: is that Croley even said one of the one of
Speaker 7: the problems with humanity.
Speaker 2: Is that they're going to start mistaking sympathy for empathy.
Speaker 2: And that's exactly what I thought happened with within that order.
Speaker 4: What about what about Jupiter? I have to keep going
Speaker 4: back to Jupiter because Jupiter is like, I will give
Speaker 4: despite your complaints. Right, That's what patriarchy is. I will
Speaker 4: give despite your complaints. And that's what we keep finding
Speaker 4: ourselves in this position is because we don't actually say
Speaker 4: stop complaining. We're trying to give, you know, I mean,
Speaker 4: we've been doing that for so long, just trying to
Speaker 4: give and then not getting anything back for it. As
Speaker 4: as you know men and as as a people, it's like,
Speaker 4: we can't say stop it. We have no more empathy left.
Speaker 4: How do you do that without without some form of violence.
Speaker 4: I don't understand how we can get to the place
Speaker 4: where we could say stop leave us alone. I mean,
Speaker 4: that's that's kind of what our entire political struggle has
Speaker 4: been is how do you say enough is enough?
Speaker 1: Well, I would say we find ourselves, right, It's not
Speaker 1: just it's not just empathy though, And I don't think
Speaker 1: Jupiter is is an empathetic sign. It's a diplomatic sign.
Speaker 1: It's a higher learning sign, an explorative sign. But would
Speaker 1: you really say Uranus, Saturn or Zeus like all kind
Speaker 1: of associated with that archetype are are are overly empathetic.
Speaker 1: I would say that's Pisc and I would say that's
Speaker 1: the Christos archetype. And I would also say that's part
Speaker 1: of this age of a query age of Pisces, and
Speaker 1: that it's not just empathy, it's it's also like blurriness, cloudiness,
Speaker 1: like this confusion that they're stoking and this like cloudiness,
Speaker 1: and even like this ideal like idealizing people in power
Speaker 1: and stuff like that as like saviors and stuff like that.
Speaker 1: That's all Pisc and I would not blame Zeus.
Speaker 4: For any of this, No, I get you know, the
Speaker 4: piscing aspect is being tied together by the tail. By
Speaker 4: the tail, so it's like we're tied together by the
Speaker 4: stories we tell each other. Right, That's how we're all
Speaker 4: sort of brought together. Is there's a story that brings
Speaker 4: everybody together, and then we're all sort of swimming in
Speaker 4: the same direction. We kind of like each other, but
Speaker 4: we're still fighting against each other.
Speaker 1: I mean, look us fight though, because they're trying to
Speaker 1: well the Age of Aquarius. They don't want us to
Speaker 1: come together because that's it.
Speaker 3: It's it's the end time, right, It's the times that.
Speaker 4: Age versus the Calieuga Golden Age callie Uga, that's the
Speaker 4: that's the main idea behind all of this stuff, you know.
Speaker 4: I mean, Golden Age is real easy to understand. I
Speaker 4: just hand that to you, and it's already a story
Speaker 4: in itself. Caliyuga, that's already a story. It sounds terrible, right,
Speaker 4: These are the things that we're up against. Is it's
Speaker 4: the sounding of these things versus how do we have
Speaker 4: the discernment to actually pick the right thing?
Speaker 1: Mm hmm, people don't.
Speaker 7: I think that's that's just something I just wanted to
Speaker 7: check just to make sure, but I didn't look and uh,
Speaker 7: it's yeah. It is normally kind of estimated between four
Speaker 7: and six eighty was Jesus' birthday, and that is because
Speaker 7: a couple of.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm going to say. Somebody right, Jesus birthday said
Speaker 3: September eleventh, three BC. Okay, that's a. That's a. That's eleven. Well,
Speaker 3: here's the April first yeary, you know, because of April
Speaker 3: Fool's Day. Then you know, just there's there's a few
Speaker 3: theories out there I've heard about.
Speaker 4: It's a tough Yeah.
Speaker 8: I think the September that time of year comes from
Speaker 8: certain references to uh, the shepherd's being amongst the flock
Speaker 8: and how the seasonal kind of thing would flow like that.
Speaker 8: I believe it's something like that.
Speaker 3: All right, well guys, you all want to go ahead.
Speaker 3: We're at two hours.
Speaker 4: This is so that conversation.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that was fucking fun.
Speaker 4: Thank you, great idea.
Speaker 3: Yeah, thanks, I'm.
Speaker 1: Glad that you guys wanted to do this.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
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Speaker 2: your stuff?
Speaker 1: Yeah, please follow me on YouTube at Arrows Up. I
Speaker 1: have some presentations that I've done on the occult rejects there,
Speaker 1: but I also have some studies on the enyads and
Speaker 1: a video on Neptune and Saturn. Kim junct and pisces
Speaker 1: and aries interesting stuff and then follow me on Twitter
Speaker 1: at arrows to eth those.
Speaker 2: Don't you also provide like some sort of services as well.
Speaker 2: I thought i'd noticed it, like on your Twitter.
Speaker 1: You know, I was gonna start doing astrology readings, but nobody,
Speaker 1: nobody wanted them, so.
Speaker 2: I was like, okay, I'll just leave it up.
Speaker 7: You know, people gotta find out somehow, right, I don't know, Yeah,
Speaker 7: I noticed it, so that's why I brought it up.
Speaker 2: I don't know if you took it down.
Speaker 1: Sorry, I mean, yeah, transits so we're sinistry. I really
Speaker 1: love sinistry readings. So like if you're in a relationship
Speaker 1: or something and you guys are having like problems, you know,
Speaker 1: you would be surprised at how accurate in history is.
Speaker 7: Anyways, Okay, thank you, I'll plug the show again the
Speaker 7: Cult Rejects on Bitch You Rumble YouTube and all major
Speaker 7: podcasts tomorrow, just to reiterate we are getting on and
Speaker 7: these these guys are actually like really big names in
Speaker 7: the Golden Don and the Bakers was a pretty well
Speaker 7: known the Mason Mason recircuit, but we got Ike Baker
Speaker 7: and Jamie Paul Lamb going on tomorrow.
Speaker 2: Again.
Speaker 7: That's actually, like people may not realize because there's a
Speaker 7: you know, this was a kind of a conspiracy slash
Speaker 7: of cold but in the occult community, those are actually
Speaker 7: two fucking big names to have one at the same time,
Speaker 7: so it should really be impressive. And they are both
Speaker 7: friends with each other, you know, they're really cool with
Speaker 7: each other, so that was another reason why I wanted
Speaker 7: to get them on. So, like, they're even excited to
Speaker 7: go on the show together to hang out. So keep it,
Speaker 7: you know, keep it, keep a check out, check it out.
Speaker 2: Tomorrow's definitely before Nick Nick.
Speaker 4: If anybody's watching seven seven seven, they need to tune
Speaker 4: in because these guys are experts in that ship. Definitely,
Speaker 4: So it's it's gonna be all related to that stuff.
Speaker 4: We've already covered it so many times. You're gonna hear
Speaker 4: it there firsthand.
Speaker 7: Yeah, if you've been listening, you've heard us mention the
Speaker 7: actual Jamatria thing Ike Baker, I mean, and the guy
Speaker 7: goes himself Ike Baker, so I mean obviously he's into
Speaker 7: that shit. So yeah, definitely check it out. These guys
Speaker 7: they are not dumb. They are very very intelligent people,
Speaker 7: and they're well respected in the community. So I, you know,
Speaker 7: suggest to highly check out the show tomorrow if you
Speaker 7: can make it, and I.
Speaker 2: Think that's at three thirty.
Speaker 7: He was available at three o'clock after and so I
Speaker 7: figured to keep it thirty three.
Speaker 2: Fike, I asked him, would you want to do three thirty?
Speaker 7: So that's what we got going, all right? Uh so yeah,
Speaker 7: check that out and I'll shut up in jewels. Please
Speaker 7: go ahead and let everybody know.
Speaker 3: As you can find me on x at, grypool pod, Instagram,
Speaker 3: grate Pool, Underscore podcast, YouTube, Rumble, Spotify, Apple Podcasts, Patreon, Patreon,
Speaker 3: dot com, slash, grappool podcast. Best way to support the show?
Speaker 3: What do I Got? What do I Got? Tomorrow morning? Uh?
Speaker 3: That's the tery book review Gods in the Morning. Would
Speaker 3: we're doing, uh a Cult Unseen Forces and I think
Speaker 3: it's a Dweller on the Threshold chapter and then a
Speaker 3: cold Anatomy of Man like part six of that that
Speaker 3: we've done, and that we could do six pages or
Speaker 3: we could do like six sentences. It could take us
Speaker 3: two hours, you know, an hour and a half whatever.
Speaker 3: That's tomorrow and then nine o'clock am and then Sunday
Speaker 3: seven seven PM Central. I'm having toad on Tower Gang
Speaker 3: Toads coming to hang out, so y'all come and kick it.
Speaker 3: It's going to be a good time hang out, my
Speaker 3: boy talk some conspiracies and yeah, Austin Paccard next week.
Speaker 3: I should know the date, but I don't, so I'll
Speaker 3: let y'all know later this weekend. But this was a
Speaker 3: great show. Thank you Erros for bringing this up. And uh, yeah,
Speaker 3: I plan on reading this outside here, so.
Speaker 12: Yeah anyway, ethan, Yeah, and you gotta check out the
Speaker 12: twenty fifth page that they omitted that's now available to you.
Speaker 8: Don't forget that all brings it, that brings it together.
Speaker 8: But uh, honored to talk with you guys and Nick
Speaker 8: Arros everybody, thank you for putting this together. And I'm
Speaker 8: easy to find online and I'll be making more tai
Speaker 8: chi videos with your inspiration now. And actually I'm reminded
Speaker 8: one of the books I wrote is a free e
Speaker 8: book right now if anyone does e books, the tai
Speaker 8: Chi Pill, and it's uh I think got it has
Speaker 8: some quality information to it. So and I'm easy to
Speaker 8: find on social media if I'm repeating myself, So again,
Speaker 8: appreciate you guys.
Speaker 3: And y'all go check out the Rustic Gods episode from
Speaker 3: last night that me and Headless did on Helloa and Demeter.
Speaker 3: But yeah, we did it mainly on Helloa the Greek
Speaker 3: Midwinter Festival, but there was a tangent in there. There's
Speaker 3: like a twenty twenty five minute tangent on set and
Speaker 3: yahweh that goes fuck, it goes pretty hard. So y'all
Speaker 3: go check that episode and donkey heads. But also I
Speaker 3: did an episode yesterday, did a New Year's episode for
Speaker 3: anyone who hadn't seen it. I give a bunch of
Speaker 3: shout outs to all my people, you know, my audience
Speaker 3: and people that I do shows with, my friends, my
Speaker 3: only friends, and yeah, it was a good show. We
Speaker 3: read a Steiner lecture on the Drafts or the Druids.
Speaker 1: But yeahweh and penis cakes.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, this is right about that. Yeah, we talked
Speaker 3: about the fertility parties that they would have and it's
Speaker 3: all all in good fun, and I talked about how
Speaker 3: it was it's now like you know, the degenerate to
Speaker 3: do that, because you know they'll do it for like
Speaker 3: a fucking kids party or something, you know what I mean,
Speaker 3: or have some drag queen there to tand them out
Speaker 3: or you know, they they always gott to fuck it
Speaker 3: up somehow.
Speaker 4: It's the whiplash effect. It's the whipla. We got to
Speaker 4: get away from the whiplash effects and start to be
Speaker 4: more interior as opposed to putting everything on Instagram or
Speaker 4: what have you. It's just have fun, don't put it
Speaker 4: on the internet, and then remember who your people are.
Speaker 4: Those are three easy rules, right.
Speaker 3: Awesome? Well yeah, yeah, I don't know. I just you know,
Speaker 3: it's like used to you know, you can have a
Speaker 3: penis cake at at some you know, at an adult party,
Speaker 3: and it'd be it was all in good fun. You know,
Speaker 3: it is a good laugh.
Speaker 2: But now it takes a lot more extreme.
Speaker 3: And maybe there's something in the penis cake or they're
Speaker 3: like an actual penis or you know, I don't know,
Speaker 3: somebody pops out the cake. No one clip that.
Speaker 4: All right, So you can find me on Monday nights, sorry,
Speaker 4: Sunday mornings ten thirty Cus with Ethan Indigo and uh Ricardo.
Speaker 4: We're talking uh the Trialogs and then Mondays we got
Speaker 4: the Alchemy. Mondays hopefully we got tu bing who knows.
Speaker 4: Tuesdays we've got seven seven seven with Nick and then
Speaker 4: Wednesdays I am sleeping, and then Thursdays we're doing the
Speaker 4: Headless's Magical Mailbag Fridays whatever the hell this is, and
Speaker 4: uh yeah, i'll see on Saturday.
Speaker 7: Bet you Wednesday you'll see it what Joe Gina Rose though,
Speaker 7: but you'll show up Wednesday for that, you know me.
Speaker 2: I went to.
Speaker 7: Y'all real quick, I do I do want to say
Speaker 7: real quick before we wrap it up with the people
Speaker 7: listening to that. Wednesday we also got we have Georgina
Speaker 7: Rose coming on at six o'clock.
Speaker 2: Then also at nine o'clock.
Speaker 7: Darling, Yeah Dot Darling or Georgina Rose whatever, however, people
Speaker 7: know who she, you know, know her big in the
Speaker 7: Thalma community. She's got a few books out. And then
Speaker 7: at nine o'clock we also got I wanted to get
Speaker 7: this guy on at a time that Jewels could come on.
Speaker 7: We got Frida RC covering Enochian magic, so that should
Speaker 7: be really interesting. And he's also from the Golden Don
Speaker 7: as well, so I really look forward to get him
Speaker 7: coming on. I think he's also I think he's also
Speaker 7: friends with like Baker. That's how I think I might
Speaker 7: have came across him, so a very interesting guy. I
Speaker 7: headed over to them talking to him in the chat
Speaker 7: and he wanted to get him on the show so
Speaker 7: to to real actually pretty impressive people in the e
Speaker 7: CO community coming on next Wednesday, So keep an eye
Speaker 7: off of both those shows.
Speaker 3: Thank you very much, all right, and if we don't
Speaker 3: see y'all, y'all had a great weekend. Everybody later,