WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.120 --> 00:00:02.839 You more. I've seen you from Afar first, starting at 2 00:00:02.839 --> 00:00:06.280 Exotica booths, saw the craze, saw the wildness that was 3 00:00:06.320 --> 00:00:08.480 going on, and I was intrigued from the start. So 4 00:00:08.519 --> 00:00:11.199 I was like I didn't know who you were, you know, 5 00:00:11.279 --> 00:00:13.839 but I was like, you're somebody that people want to know. 6 00:00:13.919 --> 00:00:15.279 So it's like, you have a booth. You came out 7 00:00:15.279 --> 00:00:17.480 strong and it was like very intriguing. 8 00:00:17.719 --> 00:00:18.199 I appreciate. 9 00:00:18.239 --> 00:00:20.160 So we walked over to the booth. We are all 10 00:00:20.480 --> 00:00:21.800 head it off, I think. So I was like, now, 11 00:00:21.839 --> 00:00:23.600 I'm finally glad that you had the time to kind 12 00:00:23.600 --> 00:00:26.600 of pry yourself away from that and come and have 13 00:00:26.679 --> 00:00:29.000 a conversation with us. I always kind of sometimes like 14 00:00:29.160 --> 00:00:31.440 these ones better where it's because it's it's not so 15 00:00:31.600 --> 00:00:34.240 chaotic when there's things going on and you can kind 16 00:00:34.240 --> 00:00:36.520 of give a little bit more indulge of like who 17 00:00:36.520 --> 00:00:36.799 you are. 18 00:00:37.039 --> 00:00:39.280 That is true, That is true. Exotica was definitely all 19 00:00:39.320 --> 00:00:41.520 an experience for me. It was my first booth, so 20 00:00:42.200 --> 00:00:43.920 and then it was kind of crazy, like you said, 21 00:00:43.960 --> 00:00:46.039 so it was just like, yeah, I was learning a 22 00:00:46.079 --> 00:00:48.119 lot as I was going through the motions. So yeah, 23 00:00:48.159 --> 00:00:49.200 it was just a lot going on. 24 00:00:49.679 --> 00:00:52.079 Hey, that's that's a good thing. If you are new 25 00:00:52.079 --> 00:00:53.920 in the industry at that time and like having a 26 00:00:53.960 --> 00:00:56.560 lot going on, it's always a plus because that's what 27 00:00:56.560 --> 00:00:58.280 we want, right. We want the chaos, we want the 28 00:00:58.320 --> 00:01:00.719 madness because that means you're doing something right. They're sending 29 00:01:00.759 --> 00:01:02.560 in that line, they're trying to see what you're doing. 30 00:01:02.759 --> 00:01:05.760 So what were you doing? I feel like there's so 31 00:01:05.879 --> 00:01:08.959 much more to you than just you being an adult entertainer. 32 00:01:09.000 --> 00:01:12.280 I feel like you are an entertainer thus far. You 33 00:01:12.280 --> 00:01:14.799 know your background, you came from dancing, and it's like 34 00:01:14.840 --> 00:01:17.480 comus kind of like you had a show going on 35 00:01:17.560 --> 00:01:20.000 in your booth, not you know, in a sense. So like, 36 00:01:20.079 --> 00:01:22.560 can you talk us a little bit about like doing 37 00:01:22.799 --> 00:01:24.959 your first show at Exotica and kind of setting that 38 00:01:25.040 --> 00:01:27.200 kind of tone and like what were the premises for 39 00:01:27.200 --> 00:01:27.959 that and what kind of the. 40 00:01:27.879 --> 00:01:31.560 Setup of course. So basically Exotica for me was definitely 41 00:01:32.799 --> 00:01:35.159 me just rebraining what I did before. Like you said, 42 00:01:35.159 --> 00:01:37.359 the whole dance thing. So when I was dancing, I 43 00:01:37.400 --> 00:01:38.920 was a break dance of hip hop and all like 44 00:01:38.959 --> 00:01:41.640 good stuff. So I got booked for like Barmenta's, you know, 45 00:01:42.560 --> 00:01:44.760 so my guy he would he has his own like 46 00:01:44.840 --> 00:01:47.040 DJ company, and he would build the stage and you 47 00:01:47.120 --> 00:01:49.359 know the wall and the backdrops and stuff for the kids. 48 00:01:49.400 --> 00:01:51.680 So I just kind of revamped it and just put 49 00:01:51.719 --> 00:01:54.439 like you know, sex on it in a sense. So 50 00:01:54.519 --> 00:01:55.959 I had him come out. I did that. That was 51 00:01:56.040 --> 00:01:58.359 kind of where like my vision was for that. But 52 00:01:58.400 --> 00:02:00.000 as far as like the show and just like being 53 00:02:00.079 --> 00:02:02.200 in there and doing things, it was just like like 54 00:02:02.239 --> 00:02:04.799 I was doing lab dances, the girls was doing lab dances. 55 00:02:06.159 --> 00:02:08.080 It was just like a lot of pictures like taking 56 00:02:08.680 --> 00:02:11.280 a lot of floor work being done. You know. So 57 00:02:11.439 --> 00:02:13.520 like yeah, like the fans that was like passing by 58 00:02:13.719 --> 00:02:15.719 no matter if it was like a woman or you 59 00:02:15.840 --> 00:02:17.479 was there with with your girl or he was there 60 00:02:17.520 --> 00:02:19.280 with your guy, Like you could both come and get 61 00:02:19.280 --> 00:02:21.840 a lab dance and like get the whole porn star experience. 62 00:02:21.879 --> 00:02:22.120 You know. 63 00:02:22.479 --> 00:02:24.639 So when you say floor work, break that down to 64 00:02:24.800 --> 00:02:26.879 some private talk listeners that maybe not have been to 65 00:02:26.960 --> 00:02:28.919 an exotica or like kind of you even been in 66 00:02:28.919 --> 00:02:31.800 the dance scene. Like what does floor work initially mean 67 00:02:31.840 --> 00:02:33.000 in your line of business? 68 00:02:33.199 --> 00:02:36.240 Okay, So yeah, basically as a mel stripper, like that's 69 00:02:36.240 --> 00:02:38.199 pretty much what we do is floor work because there's 70 00:02:38.280 --> 00:02:40.080 like not really no polls, so. 71 00:02:40.000 --> 00:02:43.400 You're dancing with nobody. You're just dancing for the girls. 72 00:02:43.120 --> 00:02:44.039 Or pretty much. 73 00:02:44.120 --> 00:02:44.319 Yeah. 74 00:02:44.400 --> 00:02:46.159 So like I had a couple of mal shripers there too, 75 00:02:46.240 --> 00:02:47.560 So they had a couple of girls and it was 76 00:02:47.599 --> 00:02:49.400 like picking them up and then like laying them down 77 00:02:49.479 --> 00:02:51.759 and then like doing the whole magic mic thing. Okay, 78 00:02:52.080 --> 00:02:53.840 but then the girls were doing the same thing too 79 00:02:53.879 --> 00:02:55.919 with the guys. Like I've seen girls laying guys down 80 00:02:55.960 --> 00:02:58.120 and like, you know, up to not picking them up, 81 00:02:58.159 --> 00:02:59.599 but you know what I mean, Yeah, they was laying 82 00:02:59.639 --> 00:03:01.360 them down, you know, one girl on the face, one 83 00:03:01.360 --> 00:03:04.919 girl on crods, and they just yeah, gods are having 84 00:03:05.159 --> 00:03:06.840 a great time. Honestly, it's having great. 85 00:03:06.680 --> 00:03:10.439 So how do you minimize like something going left in 86 00:03:10.439 --> 00:03:12.560 those situations Because as much as we like to have 87 00:03:12.599 --> 00:03:14.759 fun and there's an adult, you know, situation and like 88 00:03:14.800 --> 00:03:17.840 you're sitting on people's faces and doing all kinds of things, like, 89 00:03:17.879 --> 00:03:19.599 has there ever been a moment where it got too 90 00:03:19.680 --> 00:03:22.000 much or kind of like chaotic and like something that 91 00:03:22.199 --> 00:03:25.680 was something not necessarily bad happened but could have alluded 92 00:03:25.719 --> 00:03:26.560 to something different. 93 00:03:27.400 --> 00:03:30.840 I mean not really for the most part. And that's 94 00:03:30.879 --> 00:03:32.840 like a blessing too, because it was a lot going on. 95 00:03:33.199 --> 00:03:36.000 But the guys were like very like respectful. I guess 96 00:03:36.039 --> 00:03:39.120 like the girls they like had they they had understanding 97 00:03:39.159 --> 00:03:41.919 with their hands, you know, so that was good. Everyone 98 00:03:42.000 --> 00:03:44.840 was pretty much upbeat and positive. I think maybe one 99 00:03:44.879 --> 00:03:46.800 negative thing happened, but it wasn't that big of a 100 00:03:46.840 --> 00:03:48.719 thing to shake the whole booth, you know. 101 00:03:48.879 --> 00:03:51.039 So I feel like Exoticas is kind of like maybe 102 00:03:51.080 --> 00:03:53.639 a good place to like start those things too, because 103 00:03:53.639 --> 00:03:55.840 they are also well trained fans as far as like 104 00:03:55.879 --> 00:03:58.120 the what you can get away with and just you know, 105 00:03:58.199 --> 00:04:00.719 I feel like in the Sex and Street or adult 106 00:04:00.719 --> 00:04:05.599 you know, it's very positivity most times. But my biggest 107 00:04:05.599 --> 00:04:07.879 thing sometimes and those is like when they're too friendly 108 00:04:07.879 --> 00:04:09.840 in the VIP and getting too drunk and then come 109 00:04:09.879 --> 00:04:13.000 back and I'm like very handsy, you know. I mean 110 00:04:13.000 --> 00:04:15.039 I always get this, like I have a really good 111 00:04:15.080 --> 00:04:17.759 resting bitch face that people don't typically fuck with me. 112 00:04:17.839 --> 00:04:20.160 And I asked, how security, But you know, it's just 113 00:04:20.160 --> 00:04:22.120 that teetering line. So I wonder like sometimes when it's 114 00:04:22.160 --> 00:04:24.319 just when you're so close to those people, it's hard 115 00:04:24.319 --> 00:04:27.800 to like have a boundary per se without them getting 116 00:04:27.839 --> 00:04:29.160 too excited. 117 00:04:29.279 --> 00:04:30.839 Yeah I would I would think so too. But like 118 00:04:30.879 --> 00:04:32.560 I said, the girls kind of had them guys like 119 00:04:32.639 --> 00:04:34.120 not not in check, but like it was a lot 120 00:04:34.160 --> 00:04:35.839 of respect. Like they was like you know, they came. 121 00:04:35.920 --> 00:04:37.879 They was like I've seen guys like going to take 122 00:04:37.879 --> 00:04:40.560 a pitch and they're like can I grab people? Like 123 00:04:40.600 --> 00:04:42.439 you know, like pretty much. So it's like as long 124 00:04:42.439 --> 00:04:44.680 as they have that attitude, I think things are definitely like, 125 00:04:44.720 --> 00:04:46.920 you know, go where it needs to go. And that's 126 00:04:46.959 --> 00:04:48.879 pretty much it was the whole three days. Even like 127 00:04:48.920 --> 00:04:50.920 on the last day it was kind of slow, like yeah, 128 00:04:51.040 --> 00:04:53.639 Exotica is, but there was still a couple of friends 129 00:04:53.680 --> 00:04:56.560 lingering around. Everyone was still like, you know, had enough 130 00:04:56.680 --> 00:04:59.680 energy to keep their hands to themselves when needed, like that. 131 00:05:00.759 --> 00:05:04.000 Positive friendly where everyone has a good time and you 132 00:05:04.000 --> 00:05:09.240 get a little you know, maybe going on whats going 133 00:05:09.240 --> 00:05:10.920 on there? Who knows for sure? 134 00:05:11.199 --> 00:05:11.600 For sure? 135 00:05:11.759 --> 00:05:14.040 So what inspired you to get into the adult industry? 136 00:05:14.079 --> 00:05:16.680 You started your background with music, like what kind of 137 00:05:16.720 --> 00:05:18.920 like you teetered the line to like, oh let me 138 00:05:19.000 --> 00:05:20.040 tap into adult now. 139 00:05:20.639 --> 00:05:22.639 Oh So, like I said, I was a break dancer. 140 00:05:23.120 --> 00:05:25.879 So to just be better at that, you got to 141 00:05:25.920 --> 00:05:29.319 be stronger physically. So I started working out and eventually 142 00:05:29.360 --> 00:05:31.079 I started meeting guys in the gym that was like 143 00:05:31.120 --> 00:05:33.759 mel strippers. Man. Once they seen what I could do 144 00:05:33.800 --> 00:05:35.560 on the floor, like the hands dance and flips and 145 00:05:35.560 --> 00:05:37.879 whatever the case, they was like, bro, you make some money. 146 00:05:38.199 --> 00:05:41.720 I'm just like, how at what age was this in 147 00:05:41.800 --> 00:05:44.120 this start? Like, have you always been dancing? 148 00:05:44.360 --> 00:05:46.560 Yeah, I've always been a dancer always. Like I was 149 00:05:46.560 --> 00:05:48.720 a kid. I was on the train at like eleven 150 00:05:48.800 --> 00:05:51.079 or twelve or something making my own money, you know, 151 00:05:51.519 --> 00:05:54.000 Tom Square, I was out there doing that, you know, 152 00:05:54.040 --> 00:05:55.920 when the guys had the big crowds and then flipping 153 00:05:55.920 --> 00:05:58.079 over twenty people or whatever. It is, like I was 154 00:05:58.120 --> 00:05:59.759 a part of those. I have my own team doing 155 00:05:59.800 --> 00:06:01.879 that for like a lot of years out here. Actually, 156 00:06:02.600 --> 00:06:05.480 So as far as the team name h three Way 157 00:06:05.800 --> 00:06:06.879 three Way, there. 158 00:06:06.800 --> 00:06:09.199 Was always something sexually possible. 159 00:06:10.519 --> 00:06:12.360 Crazy. I didn't even think about it like that. Yeah, 160 00:06:12.399 --> 00:06:13.199 it was definitely a. 161 00:06:14.360 --> 00:06:16.680 Big manifesto of certain things. So sometimes you don't even 162 00:06:16.680 --> 00:06:18.839 realize what you put into the world. 163 00:06:20.079 --> 00:06:22.000 Back then. I always tell myself, I'm like, I'm gonna 164 00:06:22.040 --> 00:06:23.680 go to Vegas and I'm going to like street perform 165 00:06:23.720 --> 00:06:25.600 in Vegas because that was like the mecca because out 166 00:06:25.600 --> 00:06:27.639 here he was getting locked up cops, they're gonna speaker, 167 00:06:28.040 --> 00:06:29.720 you know, And now I live in Vegas, no port 168 00:06:29.920 --> 00:06:32.000 crazy crazy, maybe it's crazy. 169 00:06:32.639 --> 00:06:37.279 What is it called? What's the strip that's downtown? 170 00:06:37.720 --> 00:06:38.199 Free months? 171 00:06:38.680 --> 00:06:39.480 Take it to free Months. 172 00:06:40.720 --> 00:06:42.560 That was definitely the plan, you know, like I spoke 173 00:06:42.600 --> 00:06:44.399 about it so much, I put it into existence. And 174 00:06:44.439 --> 00:06:46.639 now that I'm actually not dancing, I'm in Vegas, so 175 00:06:47.000 --> 00:06:49.360 to coach with like what you said, you're right, it 176 00:06:49.399 --> 00:06:51.040 definitely happens that way. 177 00:06:51.199 --> 00:06:53.959 So what made the Holts of like adult? So how? 178 00:06:54.240 --> 00:06:55.319 Oh yeah, that okay? 179 00:06:55.439 --> 00:06:57.240 How didn't tip the scale because at one point you 180 00:06:57.279 --> 00:06:58.879 go from just break dancing. 181 00:06:58.720 --> 00:07:00.839 Well I was just now you're fucking well no, I 182 00:07:00.879 --> 00:07:03.879 was just stripper at first, well in between those so 183 00:07:03.920 --> 00:07:05.920 it was breakdance and and then like I started stripping. 184 00:07:05.959 --> 00:07:09.040 So it was like after school from being down here 185 00:07:09.199 --> 00:07:12.319 to like now I'm on the weekends traveling to like 186 00:07:12.360 --> 00:07:14.519 Connectic kids to do private parties with like my friend 187 00:07:14.720 --> 00:07:17.319 whatever the case. So, but I hadn't really no insight 188 00:07:17.399 --> 00:07:19.120 on how this worked. Like he was teaching me, so 189 00:07:19.160 --> 00:07:23.079 he had like the the whole background, like the history, 190 00:07:23.160 --> 00:07:25.720 how to do it, the vehicle, the traveling, the booking, 191 00:07:25.839 --> 00:07:26.279 the y. 192 00:07:26.279 --> 00:07:28.519 You basically signed up with like a quote unquote agency 193 00:07:28.600 --> 00:07:30.160 or friend that helped you like the land of the 194 00:07:30.240 --> 00:07:31.319 land and was like, hey. 195 00:07:31.240 --> 00:07:33.800 Pretty much follow me pretty much. Yeah, so he were 196 00:07:33.879 --> 00:07:35.720 like past me private parties here, and then I started 197 00:07:35.720 --> 00:07:37.319 doing that and that's just what it was for a while. 198 00:07:37.600 --> 00:07:39.800 Then eventually, like you know, clubs start happening and I 199 00:07:39.839 --> 00:07:42.360 start going down to Atlantic City, you know, doing that 200 00:07:42.480 --> 00:07:44.560 whole thing. So I'm just in the whole stripping thing. 201 00:07:44.600 --> 00:07:47.959 And then eventually, you know, about connect Power. 202 00:07:48.680 --> 00:07:52.000 I don't know, I probably should. I'm so like naive 203 00:07:52.040 --> 00:07:55.920 to some like adult things sometimes because there's so many 204 00:07:56.480 --> 00:07:59.600 that sometimes, like you know, and I also like left 205 00:07:59.800 --> 00:08:02.399 the industry for quite some time, that is true, so 206 00:08:02.439 --> 00:08:03.800 it's like things tend to change. 207 00:08:03.920 --> 00:08:07.839 Yeah, So Connect Light. Connect Power was basically the first 208 00:08:07.879 --> 00:08:09.360 only Fans Okay. 209 00:08:09.079 --> 00:08:12.720 Yeah, so it was like a lot actually started. 210 00:08:12.480 --> 00:08:14.319 Before only fans was a thing. So I was on 211 00:08:14.319 --> 00:08:17.360 Only Fans in twenty sixteen, and then before that, I 212 00:08:17.439 --> 00:08:19.360 was on Connect Pole because the thing was if I 213 00:08:19.399 --> 00:08:21.759 come and you book me to dance, I'll get naked, 214 00:08:21.759 --> 00:08:23.079 but I'm gonna have to bean Dan, that's how a 215 00:08:23.120 --> 00:08:25.439 round my you know, so I'm not getting naked. 216 00:08:25.439 --> 00:08:26.600 You can't pick what color? 217 00:08:27.199 --> 00:08:29.399 Of course, that was my style pretty much. That was 218 00:08:29.439 --> 00:08:34.000 my thing fashion the color definitely, yeah, so that was 219 00:08:34.039 --> 00:08:36.039 my thing. And then on Connect Pole, if you signed up, 220 00:08:36.120 --> 00:08:37.879 I'll get your car. You signed up to the connect Power, 221 00:08:37.879 --> 00:08:39.799 you can see naked while dance, you. 222 00:08:39.759 --> 00:08:43.960 Know that coustle, I see you New York through and through. 223 00:08:43.879 --> 00:08:46.000 Like pretty much pretty much. And this is back in 224 00:08:46.000 --> 00:08:48.159 twenty fourteen, you know, so like I was doing that 225 00:08:48.519 --> 00:08:50.480 and then only fans came out, of course, and we 226 00:08:50.519 --> 00:08:52.919 switched over the platforms me and him. He was schooling 227 00:08:52.919 --> 00:08:54.720 me or that he was making like five. 228 00:08:54.480 --> 00:08:56.799 To six thou So when you were first on the 229 00:08:56.840 --> 00:08:59.919 only fans, was it just you like naked dancing? 230 00:09:00.159 --> 00:09:00.679 Pretty much? 231 00:09:00.759 --> 00:09:02.559 Okay, because like if there's a there's and that's what 232 00:09:02.559 --> 00:09:05.320 people I feel like also like even with private talk, right, 233 00:09:05.360 --> 00:09:07.360 so some people are also fans of me, and you 234 00:09:07.399 --> 00:09:09.320 can't say the haven't watched my movies, but they're Everyone 235 00:09:09.360 --> 00:09:12.159 has their own platform, right from OnlyFans to all the 236 00:09:12.200 --> 00:09:14.360 other ones that they're on exists. I'm not gonna give 237 00:09:14.360 --> 00:09:17.240 free publicity, but you know what I'm saying. So it's 238 00:09:17.320 --> 00:09:22.919 just very like interesting how that works because everyone thinks 239 00:09:23.000 --> 00:09:25.759 like not sexy, not just sex is going on, right, 240 00:09:25.799 --> 00:09:27.960 So like there's people that have a cooking show, there's 241 00:09:27.960 --> 00:09:30.919 people that have workout things and sexy lingerie. There's people 242 00:09:30.919 --> 00:09:34.000 who just to work. There's people who are dancing sexy 243 00:09:34.080 --> 00:09:35.679 and you know, like yourself, and there's people who are 244 00:09:35.679 --> 00:09:37.639 doing solo scenes but you know, and all these things. 245 00:09:37.639 --> 00:09:39.679 So I think, like that's why for me, it's like 246 00:09:40.399 --> 00:09:42.799 we're like it's always like a it's like the gateway drug. 247 00:09:42.840 --> 00:09:45.039 It's like you know, it's like you do a little 248 00:09:45.080 --> 00:09:47.000 case and then you're like, but wait if I do 249 00:09:47.080 --> 00:09:51.559 this because again, I'm sure there's like I don't know, 250 00:09:51.679 --> 00:09:53.399 we can get into that too. But like at your 251 00:09:53.840 --> 00:09:57.200 private shows, was there sexual things that you maybe liked 252 00:09:57.200 --> 00:09:59.720 certain girls maybe after like there was things going down 253 00:09:59.720 --> 00:10:02.240 because those are also hot and heavy moments, and you 254 00:10:02.279 --> 00:10:04.159 know what I mean not all the time, but at 255 00:10:04.200 --> 00:10:06.679 that time you're like, well fuck, I mean when I 256 00:10:06.679 --> 00:10:09.440 get paid for it. Yeah, if you don't have an 257 00:10:09.480 --> 00:10:11.799 issue with it, like you know, if you're open and 258 00:10:11.840 --> 00:10:13.639 if regardless if you're in a relationship and if it's 259 00:10:13.679 --> 00:10:15.399 open or you're just honest because they know that you're 260 00:10:15.440 --> 00:10:18.200 in a sex positive situation. I think that that's a 261 00:10:18.360 --> 00:10:21.279 must safer her in a sense. I mean, call me 262 00:10:21.279 --> 00:10:22.600 by because I have sex. 263 00:10:24.039 --> 00:10:25.919 I mean honestly, at that time, there was nobody for 264 00:10:25.960 --> 00:10:28.120 me to really be faithful too, so that wasn't really 265 00:10:28.279 --> 00:10:28.720 So did. 266 00:10:28.559 --> 00:10:30.559 You get a girlfriend? And she was like, that's fuck 267 00:10:30.600 --> 00:10:32.240 on OnlyFans? Is that how it happened? 268 00:10:32.639 --> 00:10:35.480 That's pretty much what I was me personally. No. I 269 00:10:35.519 --> 00:10:37.399 was just like, hey, like, this is what I'm doing. 270 00:10:37.559 --> 00:10:39.799 So you want to Oh so you are. 271 00:10:39.679 --> 00:10:44.480 Like yeah, yeah, sorry, girls, I'm doing the way we 272 00:10:44.559 --> 00:10:46.279 end up doing that. You know. I went from like 273 00:10:46.320 --> 00:10:48.360 you know, dancing to like doing well I would you know, 274 00:10:50.120 --> 00:10:53.200 like solo stuff of course, and then having sex, and 275 00:10:53.240 --> 00:10:54.879 then eventually, like you know, I got tired of like 276 00:10:54.919 --> 00:10:56.879 actioning girls to do it and dig it. Well they 277 00:10:56.919 --> 00:10:58.279 would turn me down because they didn't want to show 278 00:10:58.279 --> 00:11:01.120 their face. Okay, you know, so after a while you 279 00:11:01.120 --> 00:11:03.639 got to understand that I'm not I'm trying to be 280 00:11:03.679 --> 00:11:05.480 a porn star. They're not like, you know, like so 281 00:11:05.559 --> 00:11:07.600 I get it. So eventually I was like, you know, 282 00:11:07.679 --> 00:11:10.960 I got to start going where is happening and made 283 00:11:11.000 --> 00:11:12.799 a Twitter and reached out to the people that was 284 00:11:12.799 --> 00:11:14.799 doing what I was doing. Okay, you know, and that's 285 00:11:14.799 --> 00:11:15.399 just what it was. 286 00:11:15.519 --> 00:11:17.879 So who was the first person that you reached out 287 00:11:17.919 --> 00:11:20.919 to in the industry that kind of like kind of 288 00:11:21.200 --> 00:11:24.240 like I guess segued you into this adult thing because 289 00:11:24.279 --> 00:11:25.799 there has to be there a company or if it 290 00:11:25.840 --> 00:11:28.039 was just only fans, And that's the thing is nowadays 291 00:11:28.039 --> 00:11:30.840 because you don't really need companies. But the cool thing 292 00:11:30.879 --> 00:11:33.840 about companies it's free advertising to push to people that 293 00:11:33.919 --> 00:11:37.519 you don't have. So a marketing strategy strategy of those 294 00:11:37.519 --> 00:11:40.679 source is to why not you're a new face you 295 00:11:40.679 --> 00:11:42.320 you know what I mean? Like those things. So it's like, 296 00:11:42.600 --> 00:11:44.480 was there a company in particular or would you only 297 00:11:45.000 --> 00:11:45.840 like your own stuff? 298 00:11:45.879 --> 00:11:48.240 Still to this day, No, it was definitely a company 299 00:11:48.399 --> 00:11:51.200 in particular when I first started, but only fans did 300 00:11:51.279 --> 00:11:54.879 like give me my my social media bass, I guess 301 00:11:54.879 --> 00:11:57.120 you could say, because you know, when you're reaching out 302 00:11:57.159 --> 00:11:58.759 to a female to collabe, the first thing you do 303 00:11:58.840 --> 00:12:01.080 is go to your page, you know, So like I 304 00:12:01.120 --> 00:12:04.240 had females that I was connecting with and doing collapse with, 305 00:12:04.399 --> 00:12:07.600 but like the first company was a smaller company out 306 00:12:07.600 --> 00:12:12.919 in Florida, actually Florida a pretty much. Actually I was 307 00:12:13.080 --> 00:12:15.639 with an agency too after I shot for that company. 308 00:12:15.879 --> 00:12:18.879 The guy that ran that company, he actually has an agency. 309 00:12:18.440 --> 00:12:20.720 Out there, and then they all do these days. 310 00:12:21.000 --> 00:12:24.480 Yeah, like but now so I've been in about five 311 00:12:24.559 --> 00:12:26.799 years now, I've seen the rotation. I see how it goes, 312 00:12:26.840 --> 00:12:28.799 you know, but it takes time to learn that of course. 313 00:12:28.840 --> 00:12:30.879 But like, yeah, it's like anything in any business, you 314 00:12:30.879 --> 00:12:32.159 know what I mean. I feel like, you know, at 315 00:12:32.200 --> 00:12:34.639 certain things, there's levels, right and all you could do 316 00:12:34.720 --> 00:12:37.879 is evolve, and there's things that as long as you 317 00:12:37.879 --> 00:12:40.240 have a bottom line and where that doesn't draw and 318 00:12:40.320 --> 00:12:41.639 like doesn't fold. 319 00:12:41.840 --> 00:12:45.320 Then but like every like everything else, it takes time 320 00:12:45.440 --> 00:12:47.399 for you to find that bottom line because when you're eager, 321 00:12:47.480 --> 00:12:48.679 you know, just new. 322 00:12:48.919 --> 00:12:52.080 But that's also again with with with just being like 323 00:12:52.200 --> 00:12:56.080 an adult growing in a space of just at all 324 00:12:56.240 --> 00:12:58.320 and not just only in the adult business, but you know, 325 00:12:58.360 --> 00:13:00.799 finding like what you do and don't like, and sometimes 326 00:13:00.799 --> 00:13:03.200 that takes trying things. Like for me, it's like I'll 327 00:13:03.240 --> 00:13:07.080 always try something twice first time because it's intriguing, and 328 00:13:07.159 --> 00:13:09.039 second to see if I really like it, because sometimes 329 00:13:09.080 --> 00:13:11.679 I feel like first are always also awkward, like you 330 00:13:11.720 --> 00:13:13.679 know what I mean. Like so it's like you really 331 00:13:13.679 --> 00:13:15.639 like it, so I'm like, let me see and you know, 332 00:13:15.679 --> 00:13:18.360 and then I can kind of maybe sometimes three times 333 00:13:18.360 --> 00:13:21.639 you need to read I mean. But I feel like 334 00:13:21.720 --> 00:13:23.600 that's the beauty of part of like being a content 335 00:13:23.639 --> 00:13:25.799 creator in this space is like it's such a cool 336 00:13:25.840 --> 00:13:28.679 thing to see even like yourself of going from you know, 337 00:13:28.919 --> 00:13:32.399 breakdancing to males stripping and not even knowing that that's 338 00:13:32.440 --> 00:13:34.559 even maybe something you wanted to do and maybe it was, 339 00:13:34.600 --> 00:13:37.279 but knowing that now there's platforms out there, like OnlyFans 340 00:13:37.320 --> 00:13:39.679 and in those things that can kind of give you 341 00:13:39.679 --> 00:13:44.000 your own director debut of yourself and your craft and 342 00:13:44.039 --> 00:13:46.360 whatever to kind of like push you to like, hey, 343 00:13:46.360 --> 00:13:49.039 I'm out there. This is my business card. Now, hey 344 00:13:49.279 --> 00:13:50.919 you know Florida business I want to do that, you 345 00:13:50.960 --> 00:13:52.159 know what I mean, all those things where it's like 346 00:13:52.159 --> 00:13:54.919 now it's kind of advertising, and that's kind of like 347 00:13:54.919 --> 00:13:56.480 even with me, it's like I've been in the business 348 00:13:56.519 --> 00:13:59.960 for seventeen years and when I saw you at that Exotica, 349 00:14:00.360 --> 00:14:02.240 it's always like not a sense but like to be 350 00:14:02.440 --> 00:14:05.240 very like predatorial but fresh meat in a sense, right, 351 00:14:05.279 --> 00:14:07.279 So it's like because I have a booth as myself, 352 00:14:07.320 --> 00:14:08.639 so it's like I like to look and see what 353 00:14:08.639 --> 00:14:10.679 people are doing, and like I like to see the 354 00:14:10.759 --> 00:14:12.679 new faces. And at that time too, I was thinking 355 00:14:12.720 --> 00:14:14.679 about coming back in the industry, so it was like 356 00:14:14.840 --> 00:14:16.879 who do I want to shoot with? So you walk around, 357 00:14:16.960 --> 00:14:18.519 you see who wants to do with these things, and 358 00:14:18.879 --> 00:14:21.240 it's just cool to see people evolve. And I think 359 00:14:21.279 --> 00:14:24.720 that it's cool to even like having your own niche 360 00:14:24.720 --> 00:14:27.360 on it, like the dancing part and aspect is because 361 00:14:27.399 --> 00:14:29.720 women now, I mean for the last decade at least, 362 00:14:29.759 --> 00:14:32.240 like have been watching porn. So they want to see 363 00:14:33.000 --> 00:14:35.799 looking men be you know, because their husbands aren't giving 364 00:14:35.840 --> 00:14:37.440 it to them, or maybe they are, or they're looking 365 00:14:37.440 --> 00:14:40.240 for whatever is see those kind of things that they 366 00:14:40.320 --> 00:14:42.000 couldn't do because maybe they don't have a strip club 367 00:14:42.000 --> 00:14:44.440 that they feel comfortable to go to or that kind 368 00:14:44.440 --> 00:14:45.559 of navigation kind of stuff. 369 00:14:45.679 --> 00:14:46.559 I completely understand. 370 00:14:47.000 --> 00:14:49.240 How what would you say is your biggest challenge as 371 00:14:49.240 --> 00:14:50.360 a male performer in the. 372 00:14:50.279 --> 00:14:57.039 Industry, Oh, overcoming the sins of the last guy before 373 00:14:57.080 --> 00:15:01.840 me pretty much as far as performing everything, It's like 374 00:15:01.879 --> 00:15:03.000 I feel like they like are. 375 00:15:02.960 --> 00:15:05.960 They venting to you and being like. 376 00:15:05.200 --> 00:15:07.440 Like no, no, I mean like basically like you know, 377 00:15:08.559 --> 00:15:10.519 like when you're newer. I guess because I'm I don't 378 00:15:10.519 --> 00:15:12.120 know if I'm new still they say you're not new 379 00:15:12.200 --> 00:15:13.960 until your tea is in. I've been in five so 380 00:15:13.960 --> 00:15:14.919 I don't reready know anymore. 381 00:15:15.240 --> 00:15:17.720 But you like that's knocked off a little bit because 382 00:15:17.720 --> 00:15:19.279 you know what I mean. It's like you like because 383 00:15:19.320 --> 00:15:22.720 now I feel like to back in miding that about me. 384 00:15:22.799 --> 00:15:24.879 But it's like it was DVDs right, so it's like 385 00:15:25.159 --> 00:15:28.159 we had DVD covers whatever, but people you weren't really 386 00:15:28.240 --> 00:15:30.639 like you were. You were popular within the industry and 387 00:15:30.639 --> 00:15:33.679 then you're popular within the community or like the you know, 388 00:15:33.840 --> 00:15:37.080 the viewers. So I feel like within the community you're 389 00:15:37.159 --> 00:15:39.799 popular now in five years, so like to probably two 390 00:15:39.799 --> 00:15:41.679 more years, you're gonna even more on a thing. They're like, 391 00:15:41.720 --> 00:15:44.840 oh within the community, like the viewerships, yeah, honest, And 392 00:15:44.879 --> 00:15:46.399 not that you don't have that fan base now. 393 00:15:47.440 --> 00:15:49.840 Take to trickle things down like you said earlier, there's 394 00:15:49.879 --> 00:15:52.840 levels pretty much. Yeah, so I'm still I'm definitely still calmming, 395 00:15:52.919 --> 00:15:54.639 So I see that. But like I said, I don't 396 00:15:54.679 --> 00:15:56.720 know I've kind of been in halfway through, so I 397 00:15:56.720 --> 00:15:57.200 don't know why. 398 00:15:57.120 --> 00:15:57.879 I stand doing good. 399 00:15:58.639 --> 00:16:01.039 Well, thank you, I appreciate that, sate that. But yeah, 400 00:16:01.120 --> 00:16:03.399 as far as like the guy before me, like they 401 00:16:03.440 --> 00:16:06.639