Speaker 1: Dodger Talk is sponsored by La Care Health Plan, providing
Speaker 1: affordable healthcare insurance to millions of Angelinos for over twenty
Speaker 1: five years. And now your voice for Dodger Talking like that,
Speaker 1: David Basse.
Speaker 2: We are live at Dodgers Stadium after the Cleveland Guardians
Speaker 2: defeat the Dodgers tonight by a final score of three
Speaker 2: to one. Welcome the Dodger Talk. David Vasse with you
Speaker 2: until eleven o'clock tonight at eight six six nine, eight
Speaker 2: seven two five seventy. We will hear from Andrew Freeman
Speaker 2: in about ten minutes. We had a chance to talk
Speaker 2: to the Dodgers President of Baseball Operations this afternoon after
Speaker 2: the news came out that Gavin Stone is on the
Speaker 2: shelf now, joining a few other young Dodger pitchers that
Speaker 2: are having arm issues, whether it be their shoulder or
Speaker 2: their elbow. And Andrew Freeman addressed that and also gave
Speaker 2: us an update on whether or not Stone may return
Speaker 2: this season, among other pitching topics for the Dodgers. And
Speaker 2: that's part of the reason why Landon Nack started the
Speaker 2: game tonight. And that's a good thing. You know, I
Speaker 2: really believe Landon Nack has earned more of an opportunity
Speaker 2: than he has gotten this season at the big league level.
Speaker 2: Coming into the game tonight, Landon Nack had a two
Speaker 2: e in eight starts for the Dodgers. Not to mention
Speaker 2: he pitched four scoreless to get us saved the last
Speaker 2: time we saw him in the big leagues and out
Speaker 2: of necessity. Now, Landon Nack is going to have a
Speaker 2: spot in this Dodger rotation, and tonight he did a
Speaker 2: pretty good job of keeping them in the game six innings,
Speaker 2: a career high eight strikeouts only one walk. He gave
Speaker 2: up a home run to Andres jim Menez in the
Speaker 2: top of the second inning. It was a two run shot.
Speaker 2: It was his own only mistake pitch of the game,
Speaker 2: and Jimenez did not miss it. Mookie Betts gave it
Speaker 2: a valiant effort, by the way, going all the way
Speaker 2: to the wall, trying to leap to catch it Alah
Speaker 2: twenty twenty in the bubble, but it was just too
Speaker 2: far out of his reach and landed on the roof
Speaker 2: of the visiting bullpen out there in right field. But Nack,
Speaker 2: he just knows how to pitch. He's not going to
Speaker 2: blow you away, but he understands how to mix pitches
Speaker 2: and sequence his pitches, and he has a pretty good
Speaker 2: fastball that plays here. So that's part of the reason
Speaker 2: why he's always solid. He's not spectacular, but he's solid,
Speaker 2: and tonight I think he gets close to the very
Speaker 2: impressive elite side of pitching. Tonight he threw thirty nine fastballs,
Speaker 2: twenty one sliders, eighteen curveballs, and mixed in thirteen changeups.
Speaker 2: That's a guy that understands his four pitch mix and
Speaker 2: when to throw it. He was a fishing as well.
Speaker 3: Well.
Speaker 2: He only threw ninety one pitches, so you know, obviously
Speaker 2: it's not ideal to have these many starters on the il.
Speaker 2: The Dodgers are getting Yamamoto back on Tuesday. He's going
Speaker 2: to be limited because he hasn't really been built up,
Speaker 2: but nonetheless he's coming back on Tuesday. Tyler Glass now
Speaker 2: is going to throw a bullpen session tomorrow and we'll
Speaker 2: see where that goes after. But even when those two
Speaker 2: return to the rotation, who's pitch better than Landon Nack
Speaker 2: that's in the rotation currently right now? Bobby Miller certainly
Speaker 2: has not pitched better than Landon Nack. Whether it's been
Speaker 2: at the big league level or in TRIPLEA. Landon Nack
Speaker 2: has earned more opportunities than Bobby Miller has. And I
Speaker 2: love Bobby, but that's the stone cold facts right there.
Speaker 2: You know. I could sit up here and say give
Speaker 2: Bobby every chance you want, but the facts are Landon
Speaker 2: Nac has pitched better, and that's not a bad thing.
Speaker 2: But Bobby's dealt with a lot of different injuries and
Speaker 2: nagging things and it's affected the way he's pitched. Landon
Speaker 2: Knack deserves to be in this rotation the rest of
Speaker 2: the season. Eight six, six, nine, seven, two, five seventy
Speaker 2: is the phone number. Look this game tonight. It came
Speaker 2: down to a couple of different at bats, and the
Speaker 2: big one from the Dodgers side was not Otani's forty
Speaker 2: fifth home run, although that did help. It was a
Speaker 2: two to one game, and they got one back in
Speaker 2: the bottom half of the sixth inning. But to me,
Speaker 2: the key sequence of events took place in the eighth inning.
Speaker 2: Otani singles with one out, Muki doubles him. Muki had
Speaker 2: two doubles tonight. Muki doubles Otani to third base, and
Speaker 2: when you look at it again, it looked like Otani
Speaker 2: should have been waved home, but he was held up
Speaker 2: uh because Stephen Kwan was having issues with the ball
Speaker 2: and picking it up cleanly in the left field corner,
Speaker 2: and by the time he actually got the ball I
Speaker 2: was wanting up to throw, Otani was already getting to
Speaker 2: third base. He easily could have scored, and Freddie Freeman
Speaker 2: is on deck, and that took the bat out of
Speaker 2: Freeman's hands because Steven Vote decided to walk Freeman intentionally
Speaker 2: because Chris Taylor was on deck and Chris Taylor grounded
Speaker 2: into an inning ending double play. Chris Taylor was in
Speaker 2: the game because unfortunately, the Dodgers sustained another key injury,
Speaker 2: this one to Taoscar Hernandez, who has been maybe the
Speaker 2: best pickup by any team this offseason. Taoscar Hernandez was
Speaker 2: hit by a pitch on his left foot and he
Speaker 2: crumbled to the ground. He is one of the tougher
Speaker 2: guys with higher pain tolerances, and he just could not
Speaker 2: stay in the game. He tried to. He was walked
Speaker 2: all the way up to the first base line. He
Speaker 2: even tried to jog and it just wasn't responding, so
Speaker 2: he was helped off the field by Dave Roberts and
Speaker 2: head trainer Thomas Albert. So that's how Chris Taylor got
Speaker 2: into the game and hitting behind Freddie Freeman. That was
Speaker 2: a perfect spot for No. Not Kevin Kiermeyer. That was
Speaker 2: a perfect spot in the eighth inning. Four Dalton Rushing.
Speaker 2: Dalton Rushing, You've heard his name, and I'm not a
Speaker 2: big prospect guy, but this guy is for real from
Speaker 2: what I understand, and the Dodgers, since they let Jason
Speaker 2: Hayward go, are missing a left handed power bat off
Speaker 2: the bench when Max Munsey is in the game already.
Speaker 2: Kevin Kiermeyer is here for defense, for doing the little things,
Speaker 2: pinch running. He's not here to come off the bench
Speaker 2: to hit a three run home run or a Grand
Speaker 2: Slam or drive the ball in the gaps. That spot
Speaker 2: in the eighth inning was a perfect spot for a
Speaker 2: kid like Dalton Rushing to come up and pinch it
Speaker 2: and give the Dodgers an eye idea of whether or
Speaker 2: not he can do this in October against really good pitching.
Speaker 2: The relief pitcher that the Dodgers were facing in the
Speaker 2: eighth inning was one of the best Cleveland had to offer.
Speaker 2: Hunter Gaddis, with classe looming and with the injury to
Speaker 2: Taoscar Hernandez and Dave Roberts sounding down in the dumps
Speaker 2: about it sounds like it's Dalton Rushing time. And it's
Speaker 2: not a coincidence. The Dodgers had Dalton Rushing play left
Speaker 2: field once he got promoted to Triple A. Oklahoma City.
Speaker 2: Rushing has only caught four times in Triple A while
Speaker 2: playing in left field twenty two times. If this is
Speaker 2: not the time, then when is the time? This season?
Speaker 2: Dalton Rushing time? He could be here as soon as
Speaker 2: tomorrow if the Dodgers decide to put ta Oscar Hernandez
Speaker 2: on the il eight six six nine, eight seven two
Speaker 2: five seventy is the phone number going back to landon
Speaker 2: nak strikeouts a career high and six innings. Let's head
Speaker 2: downstairs right now to the Dodger Clubhouse to hear from
Speaker 2: Land and Neck.
Speaker 4: I feel like every time I go out there, it's
Speaker 4: really just trying to do the best I can to
Speaker 4: put us in a good position to end. And so yeah,
Speaker 4: now every opportunity I get to to keep going out
Speaker 4: here and keep making pictures for these guys.
Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, between the last outing in this one,
Speaker 1: Obviously you've been having a lot of success. Guess let's
Speaker 1: just want to focus for you as of wait.
Speaker 4: We've kind of got the throat a little bit locked
Speaker 4: in now all four just really trying to get everything
Speaker 4: going early, like trying to really land they all speed,
Speaker 4: make sure it's more end zone rather than just trying
Speaker 4: to get a chase from the start, and so being
Speaker 4: able to kind of land those early is just being
Speaker 4: able to kind of set up everything else.
Speaker 2: What did you see on that home run?
Speaker 4: Just kind of kind of pulled the fastball just a
Speaker 4: little bit left it just a little bit too mental
Speaker 4: and he jumped me.
Speaker 5: So yeah, because it was a little.
Speaker 4: Upon No, it was it was one to kind of
Speaker 4: get it like just away really more than anything, and
Speaker 4: it just kind of leaked back over.
Speaker 6: Is that kind of fun that you could alt you guys,
Speaker 6: do the lean means something to work for postseason.
Speaker 7: Hopes and stuff.
Speaker 4: Yeah, anytime you kind of got a pitching duel going
Speaker 4: on is always it's always fun to be a part of.
Speaker 4: And so yeah, no, absolutely, kind of the back and
Speaker 4: forth competition of that is it is fun.
Speaker 8: It's sort of allowed you to handle the just literal
Speaker 8: ups and down, like you know, I think it's a
Speaker 8: fifth time even up here and back down.
Speaker 9: I'm up having us your quick with all that.
Speaker 4: I mean, it's it's really just kind of taken in
Speaker 4: a day at a time, Like I mean, obviously it's
Speaker 4: it's hard as you continue to go up and down
Speaker 4: to not kind of like think about like the future
Speaker 4: and like where you kind of are, but really just
Speaker 4: like trying to, like the cliche state where your feet are,
Speaker 4: and really just like continuing to work anytime I get
Speaker 4: an opportunity here or there, just to kind of show
Speaker 4: what we can do and uh, and just keep taking
Speaker 4: advantage of the opportunities.
Speaker 2: There's Land and Knack on Sports at LA. After pitching
Speaker 2: a very good game tonight, six innings, just two earned runs,
Speaker 2: eight strikeouts, and only one walk. Another thing to consider,
Speaker 2: with the Dodgers having so many starters on the IL
Speaker 2: now and needing to cover innings the Boston Red Sox
Speaker 2: let Rich Hill go today. Could Andrew Freeman be on
Speaker 2: the phone with rich Hill to get rich Hill to
Speaker 2: make a couple of starts for them. It wouldn't be
Speaker 2: the worst thing, especially if Tyler Glass now is not
Speaker 2: coming back for another ten days or so, and they
Speaker 2: need to cover innings as a starting pitcher to maybe
Speaker 2: get six days of rest for Yamamoto and the rest
Speaker 2: of this staff. Rich Hill would not be a bad
Speaker 2: phone call to make, and if Andrew needs America's pitcher
Speaker 2: cell number, feel free to let me know. Eight six
Speaker 2: six nine eight seven two five seventy is the phone number.
Speaker 2: In case you missed the news. Before today's game, the
Speaker 2: Dodgers placed Gavin Stone on the il with right shoulder inflammation.
Speaker 2: That's scary when you start talking about the shoulder. Gavin
Speaker 2: Stone has made more starts than any other pitcher on
Speaker 2: the team twenty five and has thrown more innings than
Speaker 2: Glass now than Yamamoto at one hundred and forty innings
Speaker 2: this season. He has done everything the Dodgers have asked
Speaker 2: him to do, and certainly it's unfortunate that his season
Speaker 2: may be over, but the Dodgers have left the door
Speaker 2: open for him to possibly return. Let's go out to
Speaker 2: the phones for the first time. Tim in Placentia. You're
Speaker 2: on Dodger Talk with David vasse Hi.
Speaker 10: Tim, Hey, Dave, thanks kicking the call. I just wanted
Speaker 10: to talk about the Gavin Stone deal. I think it's
Speaker 10: pretty clear, you know, even going back to the last
Speaker 10: year and a half, maybe two years or so, but
Speaker 10: whatever the Dodgers are doing from a developmental and a
Speaker 10: preservation and a performance standpoint, at least for their pictures
Speaker 10: is clearly not working. I mean, we've had an overwhelming
Speaker 10: majority of pitchers on the IL for a variety of reasons,
Speaker 10: and you know, you find yourself every year kind of
Speaker 10: wimping into October a piecemealing a pitcher stat together and
Speaker 10: what it just kind of seems like whatever they're doing,
Speaker 10: whether it's from a hey, let's all just throw as
Speaker 10: hard as we can and we'll figure the rest out
Speaker 10: or whatever it is, whatever is happening needs to stop
Speaker 10: and something needs to change quickly.
Speaker 2: Well I don't know how quickly it can change, tim
Speaker 2: I mean, just talking to people in the industry, it's
Speaker 2: an industry wide issue and also an issue at the lower,
Speaker 2: lower amateur levels. I mean, kids these days, I'm hearing
Speaker 2: going into freshman year of high school, never take a
Speaker 2: month off or a week off or two weeks off
Speaker 2: from throwing. You have these wild like showcase games that
Speaker 2: go on where kids are playing shortstop and then coming
Speaker 2: in to throw as hard as they can from the
Speaker 2: mound without taking a break all year long. So by
Speaker 2: the time the Dodgers and these other teams get these pitchers,
Speaker 2: the damage is on the way front already being done.
Speaker 2: So I'm not absolving the Dodgers in their methods or
Speaker 2: Major League teams of their methods, but this starts way
Speaker 2: before they get to professional baseball.
Speaker 10: Yeah, I think the quickly piece I was a little
Speaker 10: too fired up, but I think, yeah.
Speaker 2: I just I just think that there's too many pitchers
Speaker 2: chasing velocity and a lot of these pitchers arms are
Speaker 2: not built for that.
Speaker 7: Yeah.
Speaker 10: And then Dad, can I ask, you know, from a
Speaker 10: a philosophical stamp or philosophy standpoint for the Dodgers. I mean,
Speaker 10: you mentioned it the other night. It's pretty clear the
Speaker 10: Dodgers have figured out how to win in the in
Speaker 10: the regular season. But I think it's kind of stuff
Speaker 10: like this that contributes to the fact that they haven't
Speaker 10: figured out how to win the postseason.
Speaker 2: And you know, well, they started to run out of
Speaker 2: pitching and twenty one was an unfortunate ending to the
Speaker 2: regular season, Munsee and Kershaw getting hurt, they were not
Speaker 2: available and Max Schurz are tapping out, and the NLCS
Speaker 2: was also unfortunate. But yeah, there's something to be said
Speaker 2: about the last two years and them running out of pitching.
Speaker 10: Yeah, all right, Tim, you know.
Speaker 2: Don't go anywhere, Tony, I got I got your answers
Speaker 2: for you, not for me, but from Andrew Friedman, so
Speaker 2: he touches upon your question. So don't go anywhere. We'll
Speaker 2: hear from Andrew in a couple of minutes.
Speaker 10: Thanks Dave.
Speaker 2: All right, Tim, thank you for the phone call. Before
Speaker 2: we get to Andrew Freeman, let's take another phone call
Speaker 2: in Lahabra. Steve. You're on Dodger Talk. Hi, Steve.
Speaker 7: Hey, I'm just gonna piggyback real quick. How you doing
Speaker 7: d I'm gonna pick it back quick, take your time.
Speaker 7: Got the previous caller about the pitching, I mean the
Speaker 7: Nolan Ryan documentary, every picture that was in the you know,
Speaker 7: before this new generation of pictures. I mean, they threw
Speaker 7: a lot of pitches. I just don't think they'll building
Speaker 7: up the strengthen their arms. But you did.
Speaker 2: I agree with you, and even going before Nolan Ryan.
Speaker 2: Sandy Kofax is famous for saying, you don't train for
Speaker 2: a marathon by running sprints, meaning the analogy of throwing
Speaker 2: more and long tossing helps your arm get built up
Speaker 2: for a full regular season and throwing more. By only
Speaker 2: throwing three or four innings and starts in the minor leagues,
Speaker 2: it doesn't help you for what's required up here at
Speaker 2: the big league level.
Speaker 7: Yes, and I know earlier on a show you were
Speaker 7: on today on Great Sports Talk. Yeah, how hot it
Speaker 7: was on the field, And I wonder if that affected
Speaker 7: the Dodgers in today's game. You would know more you
Speaker 7: were there. But you know, east of the Colorado Rockies,
Speaker 7: it's hot and humid starting in April, and it starts
Speaker 7: cooling down this time of year. So this was like
Speaker 7: a real you know, Dodgers playing in a heat wave.
Speaker 7: I wonder if it kind of a warm wore them out.
Speaker 2: I don't think.
Speaker 7: So.
Speaker 2: They took minimal batting practice on the field. A lot
Speaker 2: of guys chose to stay inside. And when we did
Speaker 2: take the temper sure on the field, it was three
Speaker 2: o'clock this afternoon and it was one hundred and ten
Speaker 2: degrees by the time first pitch came around Steve. The
Speaker 2: entire field was blanketed in shade, so it cooled down
Speaker 2: at seven ten obviously.
Speaker 7: Okay, thanks for all you do, buddy. You're a really
Speaker 7: hard worker and I appreciate you on all the shows
Speaker 7: you do and all the long hours you put in.
Speaker 2: Be safe, Thanks, Steve, appreciate the phone call. Eight six
Speaker 2: six nine eighty seven two five seventy.
Speaker 7: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I hope everybody's staying cool out there and staying hydrated.
Speaker 2: It's been a heat wave, and we thought the heat
Speaker 2: was behind the Dodgers after they return home from Phoenix, Arizona,
Speaker 2: where temperatures were hitting one oh nine outside, but luckily
Speaker 2: they have a dome out there at Chase Field. But
Speaker 2: it was steamy and hot in Anaheim as well, so
Speaker 2: the Dodgers were not worn down by the heat. They're
Speaker 2: very capable of performing in heat. It just wasn't there
Speaker 2: for them tonight against a really good left hander and
Speaker 2: matthew By the way, with the loss tonight and the
Speaker 2: Padres winning, San Diego is only four games back of
Speaker 2: the Dodgers. The Houston Astro shut out Arizona tonight, so
Speaker 2: the Diamondbacks remain five and a half games back of
Speaker 2: the Dodgers in the NL West. All Right, I mentioned
Speaker 2: we had a chance to catch up with Andrew Freeman.
Speaker 2: We'll let you hear from him now and then we'll
Speaker 2: check in with Jose Moda. Already, we know that Gavin
Speaker 2: Stone was placed on the il. When Andrew Freeman was
Speaker 2: asked about whether or not Stone was going to return
Speaker 2: this season, he did not say for sure he was.
Speaker 2: All he said was he wasn't sure. He's got to
Speaker 2: see how Gavin Stone responds to the treatment they are
Speaker 2: going to give him over the course of the next
Speaker 2: seven to ten days. But obviously there's a lot of
Speaker 2: uncertainty surrounding the return of Gavin Stone. So we got
Speaker 2: that Tyler Glass Now is going to throw a bullpen
Speaker 2: session tomorrow, and Andrew Freeman says he'll know more about
Speaker 2: whether or not glass Now has a better chance of
Speaker 2: returning after they watch his bullpen session tomorrow. And as
Speaker 2: far as Walker Buehler goes, that's where we started here.
Speaker 2: What his impressions have been about Buehler and whether or
Speaker 2: not he believes now with all these injuries, that Bueller
Speaker 2: may be one of his guys in October.
Speaker 11: I mean again, I think we have a really talented team.
Speaker 11: I think we're competing those really talented teams. You know,
Speaker 11: we've had a lot of guys step up and provide
Speaker 11: a Joel to us, and you know, we talk about
Speaker 11: this a lot. Obviously a lot of the focus is
Speaker 11: on the star caliber players on our roster, but we
Speaker 11: spend a lot of time on the depth of our
Speaker 11: roster as well and appreciate that it's going to be
Speaker 11: important throughout the year. This year feels like even more
Speaker 11: so than others. Which it's funny because obviously you'd want
Speaker 11: to have the depth, but not have anyone appreciate that
Speaker 11: you have the depth because you don't need it. We
Speaker 11: have needed it and then some but guys have stepped up.
Speaker 11: I mean, Landon Knack has made a number of really
Speaker 11: impressive starts for us, and now he gets an opportunity
Speaker 11: to run for a little bit, you know, So there
Speaker 11: are opportunities that are created from it, and you know,
Speaker 11: a lot of guys have stepped up, and the depth
Speaker 11: and the guys that we've had come up and fill
Speaker 11: in have been a big part of helping us be
Speaker 11: where we are right now.
Speaker 3: What have you thought about Walker the last two starts?
Speaker 3: Is that giving you optimism? He could be one of
Speaker 3: your guys in October.
Speaker 11: Yeah, I mean we've talked about this a lot, you know,
Speaker 11: even when you're scuffling there for a little bit, his
Speaker 11: stuff was very similar to where he was in twenty
Speaker 11: twenty one, and you know, finished, I don't remember top
Speaker 11: five in the sy.
Speaker 5: It was just about execution.
Speaker 11: Just gets to the delivery can be a little bit off,
Speaker 11: and especially as you're you know, feeling your body again
Speaker 11: and going through that.
Speaker 5: Normal pitching routine.
Speaker 11: Every five days, every six days, it can just be
Speaker 11: challenging to execute at the level that he executed before.
Speaker 11: But knowing that he was capable of it and excelled
Speaker 11: at it in the past always gave us the confidence
Speaker 11: that we'd be able to figure it out. And these
Speaker 11: last two have been really promising on that front.
Speaker 5: His ability to mix.
Speaker 11: Pitches and execute have been a huge part of why
Speaker 11: he's pitched so well, and we're really excited about where
Speaker 11: he's at.
Speaker 3: Andrew, when you talk about reevaluating just the development of pictures,
Speaker 3: do you feel like there's been too much of an
Speaker 3: emphasis put on trying to reach the maximum velocity the
Speaker 3: maximum spin rate? Is that part of you know, is
Speaker 3: that fair a blanket statement of that's what pictures have
Speaker 3: been chasing.
Speaker 11: This is a much longer conversation that we should probably
Speaker 11: do when it's not one hundred and ten and probably
Speaker 11: in the offseason. And you know, I think a lot
Speaker 11: of this starts at the youth level, and it's a
Speaker 11: little bit circular from the amateur players thinking what major
Speaker 11: league teams want and trying to seek that at a
Speaker 11: point either with not the right instruction.
Speaker 5: Or too young with growth plates still open. There are
Speaker 5: a lot of factors.
Speaker 11: But then we can't control that, or at least I cannot,
Speaker 11: the Dodgers cannot. And it's really about understanding, all right
Speaker 11: when we're onboarding a guy.
Speaker 5: And the one thing I know for.
Speaker 11: Sure is there's no one size fits all approach, and
Speaker 11: it's how to really be able to individualize how we
Speaker 11: bring pitchers along, and it's getting.
Speaker 5: To know how they recover and things that we've been
Speaker 5: trying in the.
Speaker 11: Track and know I mean, I can't imagine there's a
Speaker 11: team that has there guys go on extra rest more
Speaker 11: than us, Like.
Speaker 5: Looking at bullpen usage.
Speaker 11: Uh, you know, we're near the more concerned, you know,
Speaker 11: near the top in terms of being conservative.
Speaker 5: That's not helping in terms of staving off injuries.
Speaker 11: And so all of this we need to reevaluate and
Speaker 11: be thoughtful about and acknowledge and appreciate what we don't know.
Speaker 11: There's some we know, and there's a lot we don't know,
Speaker 11: and just do everything we can to more thoughtfully create
Speaker 11: this individualized program. And you know, we started some it's
Speaker 11: hard when we're you know, going through a regular season
Speaker 11: and the volume of games. But you know, we'll put
Speaker 11: together a group and and be really thoughtful about it
Speaker 11: this offseason and you know, rethink some of how we
Speaker 11: you know, bring our pictures.
Speaker 5: Along and.
Speaker 11: I bet that it will be anywhere from somewhat productive
Speaker 11: to incredibly productive.
Speaker 2: All Right. That's Andrew Freeman earlier today, and the Dodger dugout.
Speaker 2: Obviously it's not an easy answer or an easy fix
Speaker 2: by his answer there, there's a lot to unpack there,
Speaker 2: and like he said, that's not something that you can
Speaker 2: just overnight fix. But it's good to hear. It's refreshing
Speaker 2: to hear that he is willing to maybe examine the
Speaker 2: way the pictures are being developed and what the Dodgers
Speaker 2: can do to compensate for what's taking place at the
Speaker 2: high school. Youth level by the time these pictures get
Speaker 2: to the Dodgers, And I don't know if that's possible
Speaker 2: or not, because this is not isolated only to the Dodgers.
Speaker 2: There are other teams that are losing starters. But from
Speaker 2: the Dodgers standpoint, they've had to tap into their farm
Speaker 2: system a lot this season and last season, and a
Speaker 2: lot of times, maybe these pitchers would have been seasoned
Speaker 2: a little bit longer, and these injuries might have happened
Speaker 2: in the minor leagues and there wouldn't have been as
Speaker 2: much attention to these injuries because they happen a lot
Speaker 2: in the minor leagues to pitchers that you've never heard
Speaker 2: of or seen pitch in person. It's unfortunate either way.
Speaker 2: But obviously it's not just the Dodgers that may have
Speaker 2: to rethink what has been emphasized to these pitchers after
Speaker 2: they draft them, and what these pitchers think in college
Speaker 2: and high school will impress these major league teams. I
Speaker 2: think it's just a whole ecosystem that has to be changed.
Speaker 2: One thing's for sure. I know everybody's panicking over the
Speaker 2: Dodger rotation right now. The postseason doesn't start tomorrow. You
Speaker 2: have to take a step back and at least acknowledge
Speaker 2: the fact that Yamamoto is upright and he is going
Speaker 2: to pitch on Tuesday. You have to acknowledge the fact that, yes,
Speaker 2: this is frustrating, that Tyler glass Now has been on
Speaker 2: the IL for a second time this year and it's
Speaker 2: been extended and he is throwing a bullpen session tomorrow.
Speaker 2: So it's not like these guys season is completely over.
Speaker 2: Those two guys, the two most important and highest paid
Speaker 2: pitchers on the staff, are at least taking step forward
Speaker 2: forward to believe that they may be available for Games
Speaker 2: one and two of the NLDS. So for those that
Speaker 2: say the Dodger rotation is in shambles, yeah, right now
Speaker 2: it's not looking great, but there is still some optimism
Speaker 2: that glass Now and or Yamamoto will be ready for
Speaker 2: the postseason. You have to acknowledge that. Now, if neither
Speaker 2: one was throwing and Yamamoto was in Oklahoma City again,
Speaker 2: where glass Now is just throwing off flat ground and
Speaker 2: talking about it, then there might be some less optimistic
Speaker 2: feel around here. But at least those two guys are
Speaker 2: working in the right direction to come back. Not to
Speaker 2: mention the way Walker Buehler is pitched the last couple
Speaker 2: of times, if Walker Buehler can pitch even better the
Speaker 2: next time out against the Cubs, all of a sudden,
Speaker 2: now you got a guy that has made fifteen postseason
Speaker 2: starts with an ERA of two ninety four. That changes
Speaker 2: the dynamics of things. And oh, by the way, Clayton
Speaker 2: Kershaw does not have an arm injury. He has a
Speaker 2: turf toe. He was out here throwing as well. So
Speaker 2: it's not doom and gloom no matter how you look
Speaker 2: at it. Eight six six nine seven two five seventy
Speaker 2: is the phone number, mister positive. Jose Moto will join
Speaker 2: us when we continue. After the Guardians defeat the Dodgers
Speaker 2: three to one on a five to seventy LA Sports.
Speaker 1: On air at AM five to seventy, online at AM
Speaker 1: five seventy LA sports dot com, and available by podcast
Speaker 1: on the iHeartRadio app. This is Dodger Talk with David Beassi.
Speaker 2: O Tani.
Speaker 8: These swings hits a high fly to all the center
Speaker 8: indep going back lane.
Speaker 2: Thomas, he's at the track, he's at the wall.
Speaker 11: There's number forty five home run.
Speaker 2: O'tony show, Hey Otani with his forty fifth home run
Speaker 2: of the season in the bottom of the sixth inning.
Speaker 2: Mookie Betts doubled twice tonight as well, but it wasn't enough,
Speaker 2: as the Guardians hit two home runs tonight Andres Jimnez
Speaker 2: with the two run shot off a Landing Neck in
Speaker 2: the top of the sixth inning and Rochio with a
Speaker 2: solo home run off of Anthony Bunda in the eighth inning,
Speaker 2: And that was the way this game shook out, as
Speaker 2: Landon Neck pitched very well but made one mistake to
Speaker 2: him Inez and that did him in and did the
Speaker 2: Dodgers in, who had no answer against Matthew Boyd tonight.
Speaker 2: And the Guardian's bullpen is the best in baseball, so
Speaker 2: that was an uphill task as well. Daniels Jewelers is
Speaker 2: the official sponsor of the Trip around the Diamond. Stop
Speaker 2: by any Daniel's location in say home run for your
Speaker 2: free team bracelet and fifty dollars gift card toward any
Speaker 2: purchase of ninety nine dollars or more. Daniels Jewelers own
Speaker 2: the Dream.
Speaker 1: It's time to go around the Horn with Jose Mota.
Speaker 2: All Right, Jose Mota, Landon Nak is going to get
Speaker 2: an opportunity. He certainly has earned it, but now there
Speaker 2: is injury opportunity. Why is he so good?
Speaker 8: He is not a fard of the zone.
Speaker 1: Man.
Speaker 8: If you look at Landon Knack, he throws thrice. He
Speaker 8: is not chasing chases, as he put it very nicely today,
Speaker 8: and Dave, he does not hurt himself. He is allowing
Speaker 8: himself to go out there and perform, you know, well,
Speaker 8: all the things that he's had to face. When he's pitched, well,
Speaker 8: he's getting sent down. He doesn't know what he's gonna
Speaker 8: come up. I really applaud this guy because we can
Speaker 8: talk about stuff in the fact that he throws ninety five.
Speaker 8: He had a very good tinge up in curveball today
Speaker 8: with that slider. But his mental attitude and aptitude and
Speaker 8: toughness has really shown here on the ways been utilized
Speaker 8: and the opportunity he's gotten every single time out, including
Speaker 8: a relief, He's given the team a chance to win today.
Speaker 8: Extension was great, command of the fastball was great. Avoiding
Speaker 8: the beginning was great. Unfortunately, as you mentioned, he gets
Speaker 8: hit by a guy that hit his eighth homer of
Speaker 8: the season. But he's still got a big league bat
Speaker 8: in his hands. But nonetheless, the opportunities there. Now, the
Speaker 8: main thing is you've you have a guy that has
Speaker 8: stayed ready and focused on the next task, and he
Speaker 8: is more than ready to go out there and perhaps
Speaker 8: be a bigger factor than anybody thought.
Speaker 2: Right in the eighth inning, Jose, the Dodgers had an
Speaker 2: opportunity to possibly tie this game or even go ahead.
Speaker 2: What did you think about the red light? Deno Ebol
Speaker 2: gave show Heyo Tani at third base on the Mooki double.
Speaker 8: Perhaps, you know, didn't anticipate, you know, Quwan having a
Speaker 8: lot of trouble where we were in the broadcast was
Speaker 8: I couldn't really see from the corner exactly what happened
Speaker 8: out there, but I know that the way I saw
Speaker 8: show he turning from second to third, he was anticipating
Speaker 8: going home. In that case, you know, Dino's a was thinking, Hey,
Speaker 8: you know, we're not getting good looks on anybody on
Speaker 8: the mound right now. Why would I take a chance
Speaker 8: on having somebody get thrown out? With Freddie coming behind
Speaker 8: in the inning, having an opportunity to be bigger. So
Speaker 8: I didn't get the best of looks on that, but
Speaker 8: unfortunately the ball that Chris Taylor had was right at
Speaker 8: somebody because he really had double quite hard.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that was the ideal opportunity. And Ron Washington made
Speaker 2: the wrong choice and intentionally walking show Heyo Tani and
Speaker 2: tonight Stephen Vote made the right choice. That was an
Speaker 2: obvious one to take the bat out of Freddy's hands
Speaker 2: with first base so and Taylor in the game because
Speaker 2: of Taoscar Hernandez's injury. I know you heard what Dave
Speaker 2: Roberts had to say. You know Taoscar really well, man,
Speaker 2: this is a big blow if they lose ta Oscar Hernandez.
Speaker 8: I saw him limp and I I just told Pepa
Speaker 8: and Fernando this is not good because he is never
Speaker 8: coming out of a game unless he really feels like
Speaker 8: he's If he says in there, he's gonna hurt the team.
Speaker 8: But as we know, these are these are playoff games.
Speaker 8: You're playing tough teams now. The one following is after
Speaker 8: something too, and uh, I've gotta go there to pick
Speaker 8: up the pieces. Over All, the Valuers have had more
Speaker 8: il day than anybody in baseball. They found a way
Speaker 8: to get it done. Uh, there's talent coming. As Andrew
Speaker 8: Forman told you quite clearly. You don't you don't want
Speaker 8: to tap into your talent that often, but you know
Speaker 8: necessity is there, and you know you got to keep
Speaker 8: guys ready to come and whoever guys the opportunity pie
Speaker 8: is being here now and Jenter Rushing was going to
Speaker 8: get the opportunity. We don't know if it's now or later,
Speaker 8: but at some point, yes, you got to go out
Speaker 8: to pick up the pieces and and know that you
Speaker 8: play without Moukibitz for long, Timmy, he played with other
Speaker 8: bigger pieces, Mike's Month' Seeing Company and now with tells Ornandez,
Speaker 8: which does not sound very promising for the.
Speaker 7: Future.
Speaker 8: Here soon Sernay go out there and found a way
Speaker 8: to go out there and get it done, all right.
Speaker 2: Jose, one other thing for you tonight. Fernando doesn't really
Speaker 2: like to talk about the games he pitched in, but
Speaker 2: today was the anniversary one of the greatest pitching duels
Speaker 2: Dodgers Stadium has ever seen. It's the anniversary of September sixth,
Speaker 2: nineteen eighty five Mets Dodgers Fernando Venezuela against Dwight Gooden,
Speaker 2: a game that went twelve innings that the Mets won.
Speaker 2: Darryl Strawberry hit a two run double off of Tom needenfewer,
Speaker 2: but can you believe these two guys in a scoreless tie.
Speaker 2: Doc Gooden pitched nine scoreless and Fernando pitched eleven scoreless.
Speaker 2: He went into extra innings.
Speaker 8: Jose in that beautiful no radar, guns, all track man,
Speaker 8: none of that stuff. Just make good pitches and get
Speaker 8: people out. And as the game changes around with your catcher,
Speaker 8: go want there to implement a different plan. You guys
Speaker 8: react to how they're approaching it. But man, those days,
Speaker 8: unfortunately are Don Dave and you know, talking about the
Speaker 8: injuries and guys not being built up the same way.
Speaker 8: I got to just quickly say baseball has what they
Speaker 8: call the Winter Meetings. I think there should be more
Speaker 8: education from experts about what is happening, to educate everybody
Speaker 8: in the game as so how to combat this, because
Speaker 8: it is not good for the game, it's not good
Speaker 8: for the fans, and it's just unfortunate to see these
Speaker 8: star players, a young player, promising players, even veteran players
Speaker 8: go through this epidemic right now. That's happening throughout baseball.
Speaker 8: But I think overall, you know, set everybody down not
Speaker 8: just for one class or one one session, just to
Speaker 8: educate and just explain what the body's going through and
Speaker 8: why these things are happening. Because doctors that I've spoken with,
Speaker 8: you know, for the last five or six years, I said,
Speaker 8: how about bending up your foundation? How do you take
Speaker 8: stress off your arm by building up your legs and
Speaker 8: not just the start of the converstion.
Speaker 2: You know, that's a great idea, Jose, But you got
Speaker 2: to have people that are willing to listen and not
Speaker 2: feel like they have all the answers.
Speaker 8: Yeah, things like that need, you know, need to happen too.
Speaker 8: And no, you know, even bullpen sessions. You know, you
Speaker 8: don't need to track everything. Guys need to throw bullpen
Speaker 8: sessions just trying to improve on something, not just trying
Speaker 8: to beat the numbers. They need to improve on. And
Speaker 8: I know the game has changed, it has evolved all that,
Speaker 8: but uh it, this is not leading to the best results,
Speaker 8: and we're seeing it right now too.
Speaker 2: Yeah, when guys were throwing more, they didn't seem to
Speaker 2: get as hurt. Maybe their careers were in as long,
Speaker 2: but these careers are lasting four years, so that's not
Speaker 2: ideal either. All right, Jose, We'll try to tackle this
Speaker 2: little by little as the rest of the season goes on.
Speaker 2: But that's certainly man, that's that's a big hard question
Speaker 2: to tackle.
Speaker 8: It is twenty one to go, one at a time,
Speaker 8: twenty one more games, see signor.
Speaker 2: I'm looking for the Dodgers to clinch the NL West
Speaker 2: against the Padres here at Dodgers Stadium on the last Homestand.
Speaker 8: Oh, make you call now, David Bestsey a lot that
Speaker 8: I just did. I called my shit nice nice, nice,
Speaker 8: very nice. Okay like that confidence, what's gonna happen? Take care, goodnight,
Speaker 8: see you tomorrow.
Speaker 2: There it goes Jose Mota, part of the Dodgers Spanish
Speaker 2: radio broadcast. And yeah, can you believe that Fernando Valenzuela,
Speaker 2: in a scoreless tie in September of nineteen eighty five
Speaker 2: on this date in eighty five, pitched eleven scoreless innings
Speaker 2: against the Mets in a game the Dodgers lost in
Speaker 2: twelve Tom Needenfeuer giving up a go ahead two run
Speaker 2: double to Darryl Strawberry. Maybe that was some foreshadowing of
Speaker 2: what was to come in October. Let's go out to
Speaker 2: West Hollywood. Evan, you're on Dodger talk. How you doing, Evan?
Speaker 8: I'm doing okay.
Speaker 7: How are you doing?
Speaker 2: You called me, I'm doing great, all.
Speaker 9: Right, David. I just wanted to get your I just
Speaker 9: want to ask you. You know, it's not this is
Speaker 9: we're looking like the thurstraight there. We're just going to
Speaker 9: have started pitching again. As of right now, we just
Speaker 9: have Jack Battery going into the like looking at the
Speaker 9: who would I trust going into the postseason with all
Speaker 9: these injuries and yeah, but I mean I just feel.
Speaker 2: Like about Jack Clerty, Tyler glass Now and Yoshi Yamamoto
Speaker 2: and maybe Kershaw.
Speaker 9: I feel like those last three names are all big
Speaker 9: question marks at this point.
Speaker 2: I just question marks. Yes, but you have to admit
Speaker 2: they there is some hope that they are going to
Speaker 2: make it with Yamamoto starting on Tuesday, so he is
Speaker 2: back technically, and glass Now is on his way back.
Speaker 2: So right now you have Flaerty, Yamamoto, and Walker Buehler.
Speaker 9: I guess right now, Yeah, that's that is the optimistic question.
Speaker 9: I just I just have a bad feeling that we're
Speaker 9: heading towards another like Lancelin situation where we're gonna have
Speaker 9: Justin Roblinsky is starting a playoff game.
Speaker 2: Well, I don't think it's going to come down to that, Evan.
Speaker 2: And you know, obviously last year the Dodgers ran out
Speaker 2: of pitching. They could have started Ryan Pepio instead of
Speaker 2: Lance Slid, they chose Lance Slid. So I just feel like,
Speaker 2: I know it's not great to lose Gavin Stone, but
Speaker 2: the good news is Yamamoto and Glass now have not
Speaker 2: had season ending injuries and they're on their way back.
Speaker 2: That's all I can tell you. Let's wy don't you
Speaker 2: call call me back when the Dodgers are in Atlanta
Speaker 2: and we'll see where the rotation is at that point.
Speaker 2: That's a good amount of time between now and then, Evan.
Speaker 9: All right, David, I'll do that.
Speaker 2: You want something else, Evan, you want something else that
Speaker 2: you could call me out on right here between you
Speaker 2: and me. When Joe Kelly comes off the I l
Speaker 2: I guarantee you're going to see a nasty Joe Kelly
Speaker 2: that you haven't seen in a long time. Trust me.
Speaker 2: I believe Joe Kelly is going to bring the tinga
Speaker 2: to the mound when he comes back. How about that?
Speaker 9: I hope so? And we have we have the Buzuka
Speaker 9: coming back.
Speaker 2: How about that Yeah, Bazooka is supposed to be back
Speaker 2: on this homestand so all right, Evan, there we go.
Speaker 2: Thanks for the phone call. By the way, the chicken
Speaker 2: tinga Joe Kelly nachos by Chef Marito amazing. Thanks to
Speaker 2: Lauren and Chef Marito for inviting us into the suite
Speaker 2: to taste it. It's all Joe Kelly's recipe. And like
Speaker 2: I said, trust me, I know some things. When Joe
Speaker 2: Kelly comes back, he is going to be a brand
Speaker 2: new version of Joe Kelly. Let's go out to West
Speaker 2: Hills my area. Sasan walk us off tonight.
Speaker 6: Hey Dave, thanks for taking my call. I just wanted
Speaker 6: to change gears and just ask you a question about
Speaker 6: Yoshiyamamoto and his outing coming up next Tuesday. What do
Speaker 6: you think successful outing for him looks like considering how
Speaker 6: his rehab is gone and three scoreless innings starting.
Speaker 2: With three scoreless innings because the only pitch two in
Speaker 2: his two rehab starts. He threw fifty three pitches in
Speaker 2: his last start. So I'm looking for at least three
Speaker 2: to four innings of scoreless baseball from Yamamoto. Maybe just
Speaker 2: one run I could live with one run in four
Speaker 2: innings or one run in three innings. But yeah, that's
Speaker 2: what I'm looking for. And I'm also curious to see
Speaker 2: if he throws his slider and how often he throws
Speaker 2: his slider in that start, because there's been some apprehension
Speaker 2: by his part not to throw the slider going back
Speaker 2: to Japan for putting some stress on his elbow. So
Speaker 2: I'm curious to see that.
Speaker 6: All right, Well, thank you so much for taking my
Speaker 6: call on answering, and have a great restner.
Speaker 2: N I take Where do you live, Sesan and West Hills?
Speaker 2: You know I might run into you one day. I
Speaker 2: want to be prepared.
Speaker 6: Oh yeah, yeah, And you're the Faulbrick mall if you're
Speaker 6: familiar with that area, Oh.
Speaker 2: Do I I mean, I love that sprouts right there.
Speaker 6: Sasani might see me, all right, well, I may see
Speaker 6: you there, all right, Thanks for.
Speaker 2: The phone call. That's where I grew up, Willand Hills,
Speaker 2: West Tills. That's my spot, all right. Tomorrow game two,
Speaker 2: this three game series between the Dodgers and Guardians, it
Speaker 2: will be Ryan Brasier opening the game with Justin Robleski
Speaker 2: somewhere lurking in the background. The Guardians are very good
Speaker 2: against left handed pitching. That's the thought behind the Dodgers
Speaker 2: going with an opener and maybe not seeing Robleski until
Speaker 2: the middle innings of tomorrow's game. They're going up against
Speaker 2: right hander Gavin Williams, who was bumped up a day
Speaker 2: because Alex Cobb has a blister on his pitching hand.
Speaker 2: So Gavin Williams was supposed to start on Sunday. He
Speaker 2: starts tomorrow for Cleveland. He's three and seven with an
Speaker 2: ERA of four fifty five. Morongo Casino. Dodgers on Deck
Speaker 2: begins at five o'clock with first pitch at six ' ten.
Speaker 2: That'll do it for us tonight on Dodger Talk. Thanks
Speaker 2: to Dwayne McDonald who ate a whole bag of peanuts
Speaker 2: that he brought from Anaheim. Thanks to Colin Yee who
Speaker 2: ate a whole bag of pistachios he bought from parts unknown.
Speaker 2: See you could have a ballgame feel anywhere on a broadcast.
Speaker 2: In case you missed any of the show, you could
Speaker 2: find it on the iHeartRadio app. Thanks a lot for
Speaker 2: sticking with us. Hope you enjoyed this Friday night. Hope
Speaker 2: you stayed cool. Hopefully your air conditioner is working. We
Speaker 2: will talk to you tomorrow at five o'clock. Once again,
Speaker 2: the final score tonight from Dodgers Stadium. The Guardians defeat
Speaker 2: the Dodgers three to one. Have a great rest of
Speaker 2: your Friday. See them