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Speaker 1: All right, now, Billy cunning Yammigrant America, welcome this wonderful
Speaker 1: Sunday night. Throughout this great nation of ours, some five
Speaker 1: hundred and seventy five stations strong, every county, every city,
Speaker 1: every village, every hamlet has the capability of listening to
Speaker 1: what's going to happen tonight. And I think it's remarkable.
Speaker 1: I think it's unbelievable. This is the six month anniversary
Speaker 1: of Donald John Trump taking the presidency for a second
Speaker 1: time over the objections of the mainstream media and the
Speaker 1: holy Cabal that runs intelligence in this country. And despite
Speaker 1: all that fact, he would not stop, he would not
Speaker 1: be swayed. He would simply continue, which he's done for
Speaker 1: the past ten years. Since the summer twenty fifteen, he
Speaker 1: came down that golden escalator in Trump Tower. I've spent many,
Speaker 1: many hours there. It's a wonderful place, and I think
Speaker 1: this guy is persevering through indictments and lawsuits. He's shed
Speaker 1: blood for this country. And now six month anniversary is
Speaker 1: the most consequential of any six month presidency in our lifetime,
Speaker 1: maybe in the lifetime of any living American since George
Speaker 1: Washington or beyond. The first six months have been truly unbelievable.
Speaker 1: With lower inflation, great job growth, reduced trade deficits, lucrative
Speaker 1: trade deals, and significant peace achievements and revived military surpassing
Speaker 1: recruitment goals, cease fire, the attack on our Teyran that
Speaker 1: reset the Middle East, massive increases in tariff revenue. In fact,
Speaker 1: this is so good as why it wasn't reported by
Speaker 1: the mainstream medium in June of twenty twenty four. What
Speaker 1: thirteen months ago, there was a three hundred and thirty
Speaker 1: billion dollar deficit according to the US Treasury that we
Speaker 1: had to go out and borrow three hundred and thirty
Speaker 1: billion dollars in June of twenty twenty four, because Biden
Speaker 1: was in office at that point three and a half
Speaker 1: years and what the money we spent wasn't close to
Speaker 1: the money that we received. How About in June of
Speaker 1: twenty twenty five, there was a twenty seven billion dollar
Speaker 1: surplus in the US treasure when I read this on Forbes,
Speaker 1: and they don't have a good explanation as to why
Speaker 1: it's happening that every month there appears to be grossly
Speaker 1: less money being spent, and in fact, in June there
Speaker 1: was a surplus that we had more money coming in
Speaker 1: than money going out. Will that continue, I don't know.
Speaker 1: But the extension of the Trump tax cuts now it
Speaker 1: is so good that Democrats are now taking credit for
Speaker 1: no tax on tips, no tax on overtime, no tax
Speaker 1: on social Security, that Democrats who voted against it wants
Speaker 1: now to take responsibility for the great economy that we're having,
Speaker 1: which is truly unbelievable. Those are just some of the
Speaker 1: highlights of what's happening of the six month mark, and
Speaker 1: if the next six months are like the previous six months,
Speaker 1: it's going to be fabulous imagined. Also, NPR and the
Speaker 1: Center for Broadcasting NPR and have been shut down. It
Speaker 1: may take a while, but those who want to watch
Speaker 1: NPR certainly listen to it have the ability now to
Speaker 1: actually pay directly for the products they receive from public
Speaker 1: television and public radio. And if you don't want to pay,
Speaker 1: don't have to pay, right, don't may want to run
Speaker 1: several more BEG concerts in order to collect the money,
Speaker 1: but it's about a five to fifteen percent shortfall, which
Speaker 1: is great. Can you imagine the outcry from the left
Speaker 1: for the last fifty years, especially the last twenty years,
Speaker 1: if there was about a billion dollars in public money
Speaker 1: given to keep Sean Hannity on the air, to keep
Speaker 1: Mark Levin on the air before he passed away, the
Speaker 1: goat Rush Limbaugh. Money's paid to Rush Limball to keep
Speaker 1: him on the air, or money's paid to me to
Speaker 1: keep me on the air. It doesn't work that way.
Speaker 1: So whether it's public television or public radio, let's face it,
Speaker 1: the government should not support it. I think I'm in
Speaker 1: public radio. I'm in the public my airwaves are public
Speaker 1: and I'm unready. So maybe I can apply to have
Speaker 1: a billion dollar cent to me and Danny Gleeson because
Speaker 1: we are public radio. That's a small item, it's zero
Speaker 1: point one percent of the budget, but it's a start.
Speaker 1: Along with other recisions happening. It is a start, it's
Speaker 1: a good start. But tonight something happened this morning. For
Speaker 1: those who didn't see it, that Tulsey Gabbard, beginning Friday night,
Speaker 1: did a couple interviews that details a bombshell claim of
Speaker 1: Obama era cabal trees and its conspiracies against Donald Trump
Speaker 1: and the former Obama officials put together and manufactured the
Speaker 1: Russian collusion delusion narrative to undermine the Trump presidency in
Speaker 1: twenty seventeen that continued through now has not stopped and
Speaker 1: to me, she says, it is treason us. Those involved include,
Speaker 1: of course Barack Hussein Obama, the head of the snake,
Speaker 1: along with James Comy, and John Brennan and James Clapper
Speaker 1: and Sally Yates and Andrew McCabe and Hillary Clinton, and
Speaker 1: the cabal put together an effort to thwart the will
Speaker 1: of the American people in twenty sixteen in order to
Speaker 1: come up with lies manufactured in order to ruin the
Speaker 1: first part of Trump's term, and it continued through today
Speaker 1: in efforts of the Russian collusion delusion. And she said
Speaker 1: that now a referral has been made the Department of
Speaker 1: Justice for further communication. She also said this morning that
Speaker 1: over one hundred documents that were released on Friday afternoon
Speaker 1: detail and provide evidence of how that this treason, his
Speaker 1: conspiracy directed by Obama weeks before he was due to
Speaker 1: leave office. This is not democratic Republicans, she said. This
Speaker 1: is an issue that is so serious as should concern
Speaker 1: every single American. It has the integrity has at issue,
Speaker 1: the integrity of our elections. So whenever the Democrats in
Speaker 1: the media accused the Republicans of some bad behavior, they
Speaker 1: have already done it, she said. Creating this piece of
Speaker 1: manufactured intelligence that claims that Russia helped Donald Trump get
Speaker 1: elected contradicted every intelligence assessment that had been made for
Speaker 1: months leading up to the twenty sixteen election. And she
Speaker 1: said exactly the oppice that Russia had neither the intent
Speaker 1: nor the capability to hack the US election. It did
Speaker 1: not happen. In fact, the same characters call mey Brennan
Speaker 1: Clapper at all, who put together an assessment and the
Speaker 1: summer and fall of twenty sixteen that there was no
Speaker 1: collusion between Trump and the Russians flipped on a dime
Speaker 1: once he got elected, and so there were meetings held.
Speaker 1: I think one metastasized on December of the eighth, the
Speaker 1: Feast of the Immaculate Conception by the Way in the
Speaker 1: Oval Office, conducted by Obama, in which they launched this conspiracy,
Speaker 1: the goal of which was to inert the presidency of
Speaker 1: Donald Trump. To a large extent, that year's long coup
Speaker 1: was somewhat successful. You might recall that they selected one
Speaker 1: of their own, Robert Mueller, former FBI director, who spent
Speaker 1: tens of millions of dollars with FBI agent's galore to
Speaker 1: try to find the evidence to support the lies. And
Speaker 1: even even Robert Mueller couldn't find it. And so the
Speaker 1: evidence gathered by Gabart's office implicated d and I, James Clapper,
Speaker 1: John Brennan, James Comy, Susan Rice and Loretta Lynch, and
Speaker 1: Andrew McCabe who now works for CNN. They knew what
Speaker 1: they were putting out were lives, and she confirmed her
Speaker 1: intent to send all the documents to the Department of
Speaker 1: Justice for a criminal referral. In fact, she said, quote
Speaker 1: this is Telsea Gabert on Friday Night, quote, we now
Speaker 1: have whistleblowers actually coming forward after we released these documents,
Speaker 1: because these are people who are around working with the
Speaker 1: conspiratory horse at the time, within the intelligence community at
Speaker 1: the time, they were so disgusted by what was happening,
Speaker 1: making things up and using the power of the presidency
Speaker 1: to subvert the presidency and subvert the election of Donald Trump.
Speaker 1: She said, they're coming, some of these whistleblers are coming
Speaker 1: out of the waterwork because they might have criminal responsibilities themselves,
Speaker 1: and they want to testify against Obama and Komy and
Speaker 1: Clinton and Brennan and Clapper and McCabe and Loretta Lynch
Speaker 1: and Sally Yates. So hold on tight because you may think, well,
Speaker 1: these things happened nine years ago. The statute ran after
Speaker 1: six years, o contrere monfreer doesn't work that way. If
Speaker 1: there's an ongoing conspiracy, the statute doesn't begin to run
Speaker 1: to be concluded, which is six years, until the last
Speaker 1: act of the conspiracy has transpired. So in July, in
Speaker 1: July of twenty twenty three, and Trump's home was raided
Speaker 1: mar A Lago, that was one of the final acts
Speaker 1: of the conspiracy. So the six year statue begins to
Speaker 1: run when the final actors been committed. By the way,
Speaker 1: that's the p Didty model. And the last act committed
Speaker 1: by these co conspirators, according to Tulci Gabbert, was committed
Speaker 1: in the summer of twenty twenty three, So therefore there's
Speaker 1: no statute problem. And to think about it, that act
Speaker 1: was committed in southeastern Florida, not committed in Washington, d C.
Speaker 1: So jurisdiction cannot be in Washington, d C. In which
Speaker 1: Republicans are convicted and Democrats are set free. It's going
Speaker 1: to be conducted by Jerry trial in and around Trump
Speaker 1: Country in southeast Florida. How about those apples, And so
Speaker 1: we're talking here about eighteen USC. Twenty three eighty four.
Speaker 1: This is Mark Levin talking. A seditious conspiracy involves an
Speaker 1: agreement between two or more people to overthrow, put down,
Speaker 1: or destroy the government of the United States by force,
Speaker 1: or to oppose its authority, or to hinder or delay
Speaker 1: the execution of any US law. And in this case,
Speaker 1: the several of them hindered the execution of the laws
Speaker 1: of this country by making up a conspiratorial theory, resulting
Speaker 1: in the indictment and conviction before Washington d C. Jurys
Speaker 1: of Republicans who were encouraged to plead guilty, otherwise you're
Speaker 1: going to go to prison. And those in charge of
Speaker 1: this were mainly Barack Hussein Obama and Clapper and Komi
Speaker 1: and Brennan and Rice and Lynch and McCabe and Yates,
Speaker 1: thinking they would get away with it. To go back
Speaker 1: in time just a little bit, just a little bit.
Speaker 1: You may remember in the summer of twenty sixteen, it
Speaker 1: was an article of faith that Harowy Clinton was way
Speaker 1: up in the polls, ten to fifteen points up. I
Speaker 1: can recall CNN and CBS, etc. Discussing the fact that
Speaker 1: really it's impossible for Donald Trump to win presidency. The
Speaker 1: blue wall would remain, which is Pennsylvania, Michigan in Wisconsin,
Speaker 1: and somehow the blue wall would stop Donald Trump from
Speaker 1: being elected. And so there wasn't a serious effort until
Speaker 1: after the summer and fall of twenty sixteen to launch
Speaker 1: this conspiracy. So they requested Obama requested the director of
Speaker 1: his National Intelligence to determine if there was anything true
Speaker 1: to the rumors put out by the Clinton camp that
Speaker 1: there was Russian involvement in electing Donald Trump to the presidency.
Speaker 1: And so the individuals who hatched this plot after the
Speaker 1: election came back and told Obama, there is no proof
Speaker 1: that there was any connection between Russia collusion with Donald
Speaker 1: Trump to affect the outcome of the twenty sixteen election,
Speaker 1: and they put that in writing. Many subordinates have told
Speaker 1: Telsey Gabert that that there was no evidence that it's
Speaker 1: not true. It didn't happen, So they put that off
Speaker 1: to the side, because after all, Hillary was going to
Speaker 1: win anyway. And then as part of this conspiracy, James
Speaker 1: Comy held that famous news conference in which he said
Speaker 1: that Hillary Clinton destroyed what forty thousand emails with bleach
Speaker 1: bit and hammers, confiscated eighteen and nineteen cell phones, broke them,
Speaker 1: button the little pieces, and then Comy held the news
Speaker 1: conference into which she declared that Hillary Clinton is a felon,
Speaker 1: but let's not prosecutor after all, because no reasonable jury
Speaker 1: in Washington, d C. Would convict a Clinton. Same kind
Speaker 1: of crap we heard later on about how somebody will
Speaker 1: not do something based upon some available evidence. And so
Speaker 1: it was determined that after that whitewashing by Comy of
Speaker 1: Hillary Clinton's behavior, that things were set to go and
Speaker 1: that she would win the presidency and away we go.
Speaker 1: We'd have more federal judges appointed, the open borders would continue, etc.
Speaker 1: But then a shock took place in the system. You
Speaker 1: mean to tell me donald Trump won the presidency. What
Speaker 1: are we going to do now? Well, big meetings were
Speaker 1: held on December seventh and December eighth of twenty sixteen
Speaker 1: to hatch the plot to sabotage the election of Donald
Speaker 1: Trump and throwart the will of seventy million American voters.
Speaker 1: They said, we can't let this stand. Then the Robert
Speaker 1: Muller investigation began, and then all the other indictments were issued,
Speaker 1: and then mor subpoenas were issued. And at the end
Speaker 1: of the day, Robert Mueller said, with his henchmen, including
Speaker 1: all Clinton EASTA lawyers, there is no evidence. Hecluded, with anybody,
Speaker 1: how's that possible? Well, then in twenty twenty, the same
Speaker 1: holy cabal arose again and put together the fifty one
Speaker 1: experts on intelligence to point out that the Hunter Biden
Speaker 1: laptop was Russian disinformation. They knew in twenty twenty they
Speaker 1: wanted to make sure that Donald Trump did not get
Speaker 1: a second term. And you might recall the polling indicated
Speaker 1: that if the American people knew that the Hunter Biden laptop,
Speaker 1: which is a roadmap to the Biden family corruption was real,
Speaker 1: it would have changed the outcome of the twenty twenty election.
Speaker 1: So the same Holy Cabal, the co conspirators, could not
Speaker 1: let that happen, so they put out the fifty one
Speaker 1: individuals who said that this was Hunter byn laptop was
Speaker 1: Russian disinformation, which they knew when they put it out
Speaker 1: was ly. So here we are. This is going to
Speaker 1: be wonderful. Get ready, strap it up. It's going to
Speaker 1: be one hell of a ride. Let's continue with more
Speaker 1: and if line becomes available. Eight sixty six, six four seven,
Speaker 1: seven three three seven, Bill cunning and the Great American
Speaker 1: with you and all great Americans every Sunday night. It
Speaker 1: was kind of hard to list all the accomplishments of
Speaker 1: this great man over the last six months without mentioning
Speaker 1: a sidelight. It is a sidelight, but it's important. PBS
Speaker 1: and NPR. I watched PBS every now and then. I
Speaker 1: try not to listen to NPR, but every now and
Speaker 1: then there's a good Beachi's concert from the nineteen nineties
Speaker 1: or something about the Roosevelts. I may want to watch.
Speaker 1: But would you agree that Yuri Berliner, who worked at
Speaker 1: NPR for twenty five years. He says, so called NPR
Speaker 1: whistleblower is in a sense celebrating the Senate vote and
Speaker 1: the House signed by the President to cut fund and
Speaker 1: calling it a self inflicted wound. And I'm watching some
Speaker 1: of the some of the natives all angry at losing NPR.
Speaker 1: You're not losing NPR because if you want to listen
Speaker 1: or watch PBSNPR, please do it. It's up to you.
Speaker 1: Don't make me pay for it. In other words, you
Speaker 1: have your own desires, your own predilections. And the NPR
Speaker 1: expert who worked there for twenty five years said the
Speaker 1: following quote, it's a self inflicted wound, a product of
Speaker 1: ol NPR embraced a fringe progressivism that costed any legitimate
Speaker 1: claim to stand as an impartial provider of news, much
Speaker 1: less one deserving a government support. You might recall it
Speaker 1: resigning ab and he was suspended for not getting approval
Speaker 1: of do work for other outlets. He wrote an essay
Speaker 1: for the Detroit Free Press and he said, quote, I
Speaker 1: witnessed that change firsthand in my twenty five years at NPR.
Speaker 1: Tried to do something about it, and they would not change.
Speaker 1: So for those who might say, I don't know what
Speaker 1: you're talking about. I have no idea. NPR is right
Speaker 1: down the road. Well how come ninety how come one
Speaker 1: hundred percent of the employees are left wing Democrats And
Speaker 1: according to Berlinder, it became quote a boutique product for
Speaker 1: well healed audiences close to around coastal cities and college towns,
Speaker 1: and has shed any modicum of conservative listeners and viewpoints
Speaker 1: or even something down the middle. It was a attack
Speaker 1: by the Democratic Party, funded by the government, much like
Speaker 1: USA AID, much like other government programs, much like Stephen
Speaker 1: Colbert of The Evening Show and CBS lost two thirds
Speaker 1: of audience, losing about twenty million dollars a year. He
Speaker 1: thought he had some right to be on CBS because
Speaker 1: he's not funny anymore. He's a political hack. And you know,
Speaker 1: Colbert was going down the tubes because of financial reasons.
Speaker 1: And the other issue is NPR. The Democrats are mad
Speaker 1: because they got rid of one of their media outlets,
Speaker 1: and Stephen Colbert and Kimball will be next. He'll be
Speaker 1: let go within the next six months because they're not funny.
Speaker 1: It's not Johnny Carson or Jay Leno anymore. And it's
Speaker 1: simply a left wing hack job against the American people.
Speaker 1: And the Democrats are complaining so loud because they benefit
Speaker 1: from it. Do you think they'd care about NPR and
Speaker 1: PBS if it was down the middle? No, the Democrats
Speaker 1: want to keep it because you pay for many to
Speaker 1: get your left wing viewpoint from NPR and PBS, and
Speaker 1: also for those who want to watch CBS at night. Steve,
Speaker 1: when Colbert was funny about nine year years ago, He's
Speaker 1: not funny anymore. He's losing audience, can't get advertisers. Let's continue.
Speaker 1: The line becomes available eight sixty six, six four seven
Speaker 1: seven three three seven incredible. NPR whistleblower says embrace of
Speaker 1: fringe progressivism led to the defunding. Doesn't he know a
Speaker 1: little bit more about NPR than you do from the
Speaker 1: inside out? Absolutely, let's continue. And how consequential was the
Speaker 1: last six month spent for the American people? Go Cunningham
Speaker 1: with you every year by Billy cunning into Great America.
Speaker 1: Let's set up the rest of today's big show. Scott
Speaker 1: Powell has written a great piece under date of July sixteenth,
Speaker 1: America can never forget that liberty depends on justice, and
Speaker 1: he goes over the roadmap to the corruption begun by
Speaker 1: Hussein Obama, Hillary Clinton, Clapper, Brennan, Comy, etc. It's a
Speaker 1: wonderful article. I'm gonna call him in about thirty forty
Speaker 1: minutes or so. Also later on will be the great
Speaker 1: Julie Gunlock about reviewing the last six months of the
Speaker 1: Trump presidency, What's gone on, what's gone bad? Ashley Banfield
Speaker 1: will be here later on of News Nation Ashley Banfield
Speaker 1: to talk about the revelations and the situation involving the
Speaker 1: president's sending the doodling about twenty five years ago that
Speaker 1: resulted in all the crap going on. And then also
Speaker 1: later on we're going to have a guest on issues
Speaker 1: relative to what Obama did and how the conspiracy began.
Speaker 1: And Jeffrey Epstein, I don't know what to say about him.
Speaker 1: I have no idea. And for four years, the Biden
Speaker 1: administration had the capability, according to one Congressman, to put
Speaker 1: in the Epstein files whatever they wanted to put in.
Speaker 1: And I don't am I going to decide to like
Speaker 1: or not like Donald Trump because of Jeffrey Epstein. I
Speaker 1: hate to say this, but I trust Anne Bongino hate
Speaker 1: to say this, I trust Cash Pateel hate to say it,
Speaker 1: but I trust Donald Trump, and I trust Pam BONDI
Speaker 1: put that down and tell that something else happens. Otherwise,
Speaker 1: I don't know. The accomplishments of Donald Trump are so
Speaker 1: good and so deep and so pervasive for us that
Speaker 1: the Democrats in the media have got to concoct some
Speaker 1: sort of a scandal to get your eyes off the prize,
Speaker 1: which is six months of great work by Donald Trump.
Speaker 1: Now did Donald Trump? How about this one? I watched
Speaker 1: CNN about two days ago, and there was this woman
Speaker 1: who said she thought the year was nineteen ninety two.
Speaker 1: Now she was in the presence of Jeffrey Epstein and
Speaker 1: Donald Trump inspired about thirty thirty two years ago that
Speaker 1: Epstein either killed himself or was killed. I prefer the
Speaker 1: first and not the second. But would I be surprised
Speaker 1: if he was murdered. I wouldn't be surprised at all.
Speaker 3: No.
Speaker 1: I like to see the evidence. Ashley Banfield is gonna
Speaker 1: come up later with some evidence that he did not
Speaker 1: kill himself. That's why I'm willing to listen to it.
Speaker 1: But what does that have to do with the border
Speaker 1: or tariffs, or the one Big Beautiful bill, or the
Speaker 1: extension of the of the Trump tax cuts, or lucrative
Speaker 1: trade deals or revived military recruitment. What does that have
Speaker 1: to do with any of that? Does any of it
Speaker 1: concern your life? Does it make it better or worse?
Speaker 1: The answer is no. I know NBC waited on the
Speaker 1: Access Hollywood tape until near the end of twenty sixteen
Speaker 1: to drop that bomb on Trump, and he overcame that
Speaker 1: one because we want to change and so I guess
Speaker 1: it's possible that Donald Trump did or didn't do what
Speaker 1: the Democrats claim he did or didn't do, But that
Speaker 1: matter is a fatal complete in my mind, It's not
Speaker 1: going to change my view of him one iota. I've
Speaker 1: been around the guy several times, interviewed him a few times.
Speaker 1: I think he's wonderful. He's a great guy to be around,
Speaker 1: well liked by friends and family. Did he run around
Speaker 1: with Jeffrey Epstein? Probably? Did he have sex with teenage girls?
Speaker 1: Don't believe it? No, I don't think so, and I
Speaker 1: think others did. Are the others rich and famous? Probably? Would?
Speaker 1: I like to know who they are? Absolutely, does it
Speaker 1: change Ukraine or Gaza. Does it change what happened between
Speaker 1: India and Pakistan or what's happening now between Congo and Rwanda,
Speaker 1: all the pieces the peace maker that Donald Trump is,
Speaker 1: Does that mean that didn't happen Hill, I don't know.
Speaker 1: I don't know. What I'm concerned about is a cease
Speaker 1: fire and success in Ukraine and a military strike sent
Speaker 1: down the road on Tehran, and right now Israel is
Speaker 1: again attacking Damascus. I care a lot about that, don't you.
Speaker 1: So this other stuff is titillating, but it don't affect
Speaker 1: my life one way or another. Do I think the
Speaker 1: deep state will protect its own Absolutely, I just spent
Speaker 1: the last thirty minutes talking about that. Do I believe
Speaker 1: there's a deep state? Absolutely? Do I hope that Patel
Speaker 1: and Bongino and Trump and Pam Bonni can break it. Absolutely?
Speaker 1: But I'd be shocked if I'm with you six months
Speaker 1: from now and something dramatic has not happened. When it
Speaker 1: comes to the indictment of Barack Obama and so many
Speaker 1: others that launched this plot against Donald Trump. And I'm
Speaker 1: talking about James Clapper and John Brennan, who's a bad
Speaker 1: guy and Andrew McCabe and Sally Yates and Loretta Lynch.
Speaker 1: I'd be show if in six months that they are
Speaker 1: seditious activities against this nation have not been laid out
Speaker 1: in and they're not indicted, I'd be surprised. I'd be
Speaker 1: surprised if we don't know more about the so called
Speaker 1: client list that Alan Dershowitz says doesn't exist relative to
Speaker 1: relative to a dirt bag named Epstein. But Donald Trump
Speaker 1: is so good on policy and getting so much done,
Speaker 1: including the Crypto bill over the weekend, that the media
Speaker 1: has got to come up with some reason to attack them.
Speaker 1: And I guess it's Jeffrey Epstein. Okay, whatever happens interesting,
Speaker 1: But the dirt bag is probably in hell itself. And
Speaker 1: those men from top to bottom, you know some of
Speaker 1: the names, if they had sex with teenage girls from
Speaker 1: Prince Andrew on down. The good Lord knows what happened,
Speaker 1: and sadly the girls effect that I'm sure have had
Speaker 1: terrible lives. In fact, one of them committed suicide. But
Speaker 1: there was a pot of money of one hundred and
Speaker 1: twenty five million dollars that the so called victims divided up.
Speaker 1: And I would assume they disgorge the information to the
Speaker 1: Special Master about who are the guys that they were
Speaker 1: forced to have sex with. Many were applied with drugs
Speaker 1: and other things to have them have sex with these richer,
Speaker 1: powerful men. I like to know the names. Is my
Speaker 1: life going to change if they're not made public?
Speaker 3: No?
Speaker 1: Does that mean Trump is a bad guy?
Speaker 4: No?
Speaker 1: Does it mean as policies work. Absolutely. The more is
Speaker 1: policies work, the more the media and the Democrats will
Speaker 1: come with distractions, weapons of mass distraction to get your
Speaker 1: eyes off what's important. In fact, tonight, when I watched
Speaker 1: the evening News it was on CBS and NBC, they
Speaker 1: spent as much time on Epstein as they did on
Speaker 1: any substantive matter. And we mega types. I think will
Speaker 1: be satisfied once the investigation of the US Department of
Speaker 1: Justice results in the criminal indictment of people like Barack
Speaker 1: Husain Obama. In fact, the president tonight has an interesting
Speaker 1: segue out. Maybe it's by the RNC in which Obama
Speaker 1: and Clinton and Hillary and Hillary and Bill Clinton and
Speaker 1: Pelosi and the Keem Jeffries all talk about no one's
Speaker 1: above the law, and that includes the president. Well, there's
Speaker 1: a cutout there a president Barack Husain Obama, google it.
Speaker 1: He has given all these interviews that the president is
Speaker 1: not above the law. Well, we're about to find out
Speaker 1: if that's really true, goes Obama. According to these stories
Speaker 1: put out by Telsey Gabbertt starting on Friday and today,
Speaker 1: committed numerous felonies in office. Now, the Supreme Court ruling
Speaker 1: said a president cannot commit felonies in office, can't do it,
Speaker 1: and you have to wait till he gets out of office. Well,
Speaker 1: I think I think Obama's out of office. Can you
Speaker 1: imagine the outcry of the Democrats and the mainstream media
Speaker 1: if Barack Hussein Obama would be treated like Donald Trump
Speaker 1: and handcuffed and fingerprinted and mugshot and went on trial
Speaker 1: in Florida for his life because of what he did
Speaker 1: to organize this conspiracy to thwart the will of the
Speaker 1: American people. That that would be something to behold. It's
Speaker 1: called US eighteen US Code twenty three eighty four Seditious
Speaker 1: conspiracy involved in agreement between two or more people to overthrow,
Speaker 1: put down, and destroy the government the United States by
Speaker 1: force or to oppose its authority, or to hinder or
Speaker 1: delay the execution of any US law. That's exactly what
Speaker 1: they did. And so it'll be interesting if the so
Speaker 1: called deep state will be shown for what it is.
Speaker 1: And I would also point out that Telsea Gabbert said
Speaker 1: today that they have numerous whistleblowers underneath these characters that
Speaker 1: are coming forward knowing they have personal criminal liability for
Speaker 1: what they did. Who want to sing like a canary
Speaker 1: to save their own skin? Is that interesting? I don't
Speaker 1: know about Jeffrey Epstein. I know it's important to many.
Speaker 1: I wish we knew more information. And I think Congressman Crockett,
Speaker 1: the good one from Tennessee said this morning, get it out.
Speaker 1: I'm okay, I'm okay with whatever it is. Let the
Speaker 1: ships fall where they may. Well, that's fine. But in
Speaker 1: addition to that, how about an effort to overthrow the
Speaker 1: United States elected government by the present administration of Barack
Speaker 1: Hussein and Obama that went on for years and continues
Speaker 1: to metastasize. The statute doesn't run, in fact won't run
Speaker 1: until like twenty twenty nine or twenty thirty because the
Speaker 1: last act was the raid on the mar A Lago
Speaker 1: home of the President in the summer of twenty twenty three.
Speaker 1: And one last point, I'll take some calls if Biden
Speaker 1: and Mary Garland. Of course Biden was mentally incompetent, But
Speaker 1: if Biden and Mary Garland were somewhat more competent, they
Speaker 1: would have caused the indictment of Donald Trump and the
Speaker 1: first six months or the first year of the Biden
Speaker 1: so called presidency. By the time the conspiracy metastasized with
Speaker 1: the indictment of Donald Trump, it was too close to
Speaker 1: the twenty four election. And if they would have started
Speaker 1: a year earlier in front of Judge Tanya Chunkin in Washington,
Speaker 1: d C. Federal Court, and she wanted to get Trump
Speaker 1: so bad, as the judge she could taste it, we
Speaker 1: may have a completely different outcome of the twenty twenty
Speaker 1: four election. I would assume Kamala Harris would have been
Speaker 1: elected president. Can you imagine that thought today tonight? For
Speaker 1: the last six months, Kamala Harris has been the president,
Speaker 1: and that Donald Trump would have been convicted by a
Speaker 1: trial jury in Washington, D C. Of all kinds of crimes,
Speaker 1: likely overturned on appeal by the appeal. It would have
Speaker 1: been twenty twenty six, twenty twenty seven, and history would
Speaker 1: have been changed. Just as the turn of the head,
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, by Donald Trump saved his life. And
Speaker 1: thank God that the attempt at assassin Thomas Crooks was
Speaker 1: unable to kill President Trump at a rally in Butler County, Pennsylvania.
Speaker 1: He was looking forward and the assassin Crooks had in
Speaker 1: his crosshairs the right side of Trump's head to blow
Speaker 1: it off John F. Kennedy style. Just as he pulled
Speaker 1: the trigger, Donald Trump's head turned to the right, and
Speaker 1: the bullet, instead of going into a skull at twenty
Speaker 1: four hundred feet a second clipped off part of his ear,
Speaker 1: and Trump lived. The turn of that event and the
Speaker 1: result thereof helped to elect the president to where he
Speaker 1: is now, and the course of human history has been changed.
Speaker 1: If that turn had not taken place, and I still
Speaker 1: have Harvard in my thought the idea did the elements
Speaker 1: of the Secret Service act in a way to be
Speaker 1: grossly negligent, So just in case something would have happened
Speaker 1: to Donald Trump, we would have a week of mourning.
Speaker 1: Then the country would be thrown in complete chaos. It's
Speaker 1: unclear what would have happened if Trump had been assassinated
Speaker 1: by a crooks, or that other assassin down at the
Speaker 1: golf course, or the barrel of the gun pouring through
Speaker 1: the bushes. But I think Trump's survival guaranteed his election,
Speaker 1: especially when Kamala Harris, Kamala Harris became the chosen one
Speaker 1: by the Democratic Party that cares so much about democracy.
Speaker 1: They don't want people to vote. And when people do
Speaker 1: vote and they freely select Donald Trump, the Democratic Party
Speaker 1: in the media will work hard to overturn his election
Speaker 1: or to make it inert, which is what exactly they did.
Speaker 1: I'm just I'm shaking my head. You're looking forward. The
Speaker 1: crosshairs is the rights top of a skull, And just
Speaker 1: as the bullet is coming, he turns to the right,
Speaker 1: and the bullet, instead of blowing off the top of
Speaker 1: his head, clips in the ear. And Trump lives, and
Speaker 1: he lives for a purpose. Let's continue the line becomes
Speaker 1: available eight sixty six six four seven seven three three
Speaker 1: seven Bill cunning In The Great American With you and
Speaker 1: all great Americans every Sunday Night by Billy cunning In
Speaker 1: The Great American. Incredible great stuff is going on. And
Speaker 1: by the way, Obama era intelligence officials, all of them
Speaker 1: from top to Bottom acknowledged they had no evidence of
Speaker 1: a conspiracy between the Trump campaign and Russia and the
Speaker 1: twenty sixteen election, but continued to pump out the narrative
Speaker 1: with willing members of the media in order to derail
Speaker 1: and possibly calls great difficulty to Donald Trump during his presidency,
Speaker 1: and the House Intelligence Committee in twenty seventeen conducted depositions
Speaker 1: of top Obama intelligence officials, including Clapper and Brennan and
Speaker 1: Komy and Lynch and many others, and they all testified,
Speaker 1: shall we say, that there was no evidence that they
Speaker 1: can point their finger to as causing this so called
Speaker 1: collusion that took place. And if you have time tonight
Speaker 1: before you go to bed, Fox News has an AI
Speaker 1: generated version about what Obama would look like getting arrested.
Speaker 1: The probability of another president of the United States facing
Speaker 1: a criminal trial is now real and his name is
Speaker 1: not Donald John Trump, but rather it is Barack Hussein Obama.
Speaker 1: The posting is according to this AI generated put out
Speaker 1: by the Donald Trump it's hilarious if it wasn't so true, incredible,
Speaker 1: So let's see what occurs. Because Tulsea Gabett Veil's historic
Speaker 1: intelligence plot targeting Donald Trump that began in the summer
Speaker 1: and fall of twenty sixteen and then metastasized even through
Speaker 1: the twenty twenty four election. She has over one hundred
Speaker 1: documents released on Friday detailing and providing evidence of how
Speaker 1: this treasonous conspiracy was directed by Obama himself in office
Speaker 1: weeks before he was to leave office. And this is
Speaker 1: not a Democratic Republican issue. This is an issue that
Speaker 1: is so serious it should be a grave concern to
Speaker 1: every American when we go to vote. Documents shared by
Speaker 1: Gabbert's office claim that there was no evidence showing that
Speaker 1: Russia had tried to directly influence directly or indirectly any
Speaker 1: vote count quote creating this piece of manufactured intelligence, claims
Speaker 1: that Russia had helped Donald Trump get elected, and contradicted
Speaker 1: every other assessment that had been made previously in the
Speaker 1: months leading up to the election. You may recall that
Speaker 1: it was an article of faith that in the summer
Speaker 1: twenty sixteen they did not have to do more than
Speaker 1: put out the rumors that were false about Trump and
Speaker 1: Russia because everyone knew Hillary Clinton was going to be elected.
Speaker 1: The goal after the election was to subvert the will
Speaker 1: of the American people undermine our democratic republic, and a
Speaker 1: KNA would be ess essentially a decade long coup against
Speaker 1: Donald Trump. Those involved Barack Hussein Obama, James Clapper, John Brennan,
Speaker 1: who's a bad guy, James Comey, Susan Rice, Sally Yates,
Speaker 1: Loretta Lynch, and others. And she has sent now the
Speaker 1: Department of Justice all uncovered documents in order to seek
Speaker 1: a criminal indictment of all those individuals. And she also
Speaker 1: said yesterday that whistleblowers have actually come forward after we
Speaker 1: released these documents because there are people in the intelligence
Speaker 1: community that could have criminal liability to themselves below the
Speaker 1: leader level, and they want to cooperate in the investigation
Speaker 1: because they might have criminal responsibilities. Much like any massive conspiracy,
Speaker 1: you start at the bottom and work yourself to the top,
Speaker 1: she said, out of the woodwork. Many individuals had come forward,
Speaker 1: no matter how powerful they were at the time, no
Speaker 1: matter who was involved in creating this treasonous conspiracy against
Speaker 1: the American people, they must be held to account. And
Speaker 1: if you google Obama President Obama speaking about Donald Trump,
Speaker 1: it's all over the internet constantly. Obama said, no one's
Speaker 1: above the law, not even the president. Well, guess what
Speaker 1: that applies to you, Obama, You and the I generated
Speaker 1: A bit by Trump is hilarious and it's so true.
Speaker 1: So let's continue with more. We're going to hear from
Speaker 1: good friend Scott Pal's written a story about what lies ahead.
Speaker 1: Bill cunning and the Great American with you every Sunday.
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Speaker 1: By Billy Cunningham, The Great American Coast. We're commemorating the
Speaker 1: six month anniversary of the Greatest Presidency. In the first
Speaker 1: six months anytime, anywhere, any place, we can go over.
Speaker 1: I've gone over before, go over again. All the accomplishments
Speaker 1: in the first six months. But there's there's thunder in
Speaker 1: the background, there's lightning strikes a few miles away. Goes Tulsea.
Speaker 1: Gabbert the d and I, the Director of National Intelligence
Speaker 1: has spent the last five months putting together at dossie
Speaker 1: of her own about the number of criminal acts committed
Speaker 1: by Barack Hussein Obama, James Comey, John Brennan, James Clapper,
Speaker 1: Susan Rice, and Sally Yates at all. And to me,
Speaker 1: I know it's important because the media is not covered
Speaker 1: at the past few days, likely not to cover it.
Speaker 1: This should be a perfect sixty minute story, a perfect
Speaker 1: story for sixty minutes to tell the story of how
Speaker 1: one political party illegally conspired with each other and government
Speaker 1: officials to ruin the presidency in the selection of the
Speaker 1: electorate in twenty sixteen twenty seventeen that metastasized in the
Speaker 1: summer rate on Trump's home at mar A Lago. Jonah,
Speaker 1: you and I now Scott Powell got a column out
Speaker 1: under date of about four or five days ago. Americans
Speaker 1: can never forget that liberty depends on justice. And once again,
Speaker 1: Scott Powell, welcome to the Bill Cunningham show. I love
Speaker 1: this piece about equal justice under the law means not
Speaker 1: only the courts so to adjudicate law without prejudice race,
Speaker 1: gender status, but the rules must be enforced and adjudicated
Speaker 1: with particular attention to those in powerful positions, explain the
Speaker 1: thesis of your column, which I think is beautiful.
Speaker 5: Well, first of all, I remind everybody this is you know,
Speaker 5: we're still in the aftermath of July fourth, and we
Speaker 5: think of that as the great celebration of America as
Speaker 5: the freest nation in the world. But I make the
Speaker 5: case that if we don't have justice, we will not
Speaker 5: have freedom. And we have seen our freedom eroded and
Speaker 5: it's tied directly to the loss of justice. So restoration
Speaker 5: of justice is absolutely critical, and you know, it can
Speaker 5: start really with everyone needs to understand that history is
Speaker 5: important and that everything gets affected by the past. So
Speaker 5: when laws are not enforced and there's injustice, that breeds
Speaker 5: more violation of law and more injustice. So for instance,
Speaker 5: you know, we could trace back our problems happening now
Speaker 5: to things that have happened years ago. I mean, when
Speaker 5: we go back, let's say, you know, to take Hillary Clinton,
Speaker 5: for instance, who refused to comply with the State State
Speaker 5: Department protocol in refusing to conduct all business on secure
Speaker 5: government communication network. She insisted that she had to have
Speaker 5: her own private server in Chappaqua, which was a total
Speaker 5: violation of security. And when the when the controversy serviced
Speaker 5: after her State department term was over. Many people were
Speaker 5: baffled when in July twenty sixteen, FBI Director Jim Comy
Speaker 5: would not prosecute Hillary Clinton's felony law breaking, and he
Speaker 5: did so after recounting that Clinton had destroyed evidence under
Speaker 5: subpoena that included thirty one thousand emails by Bleach bidding
Speaker 5: her hard drive and storage devices. Also noted was the
Speaker 5: destruction by hammer. Can you picture it? Just picture Hillary
Speaker 5: Clinton and her people hammering and destroying thirteen cell phones
Speaker 5: and communication devices. But that's what happened. So federal law,
Speaker 5: and it specifically eighteen USC. Code fifty nineteen, prohibits the
Speaker 5: destruction or falsification of records with the intent to obstruct justice,
Speaker 5: with penalties up to twenty years in prison and substantial fines.
Speaker 5: Was there any fine for Hillary Clinton?
Speaker 1: Well, in fact, I can recall in July or August
Speaker 1: Camy how does big news conference in which he conceded
Speaker 1: admitted that she willingly knowingly violated federal law. But after all,
Speaker 1: I'm not going to prosecute her. No reasonable prosecutor whatever
Speaker 1: bring an indictment against her. He wasn't the prosecutor, he
Speaker 1: was the cop, the FBI, and he's just saying, this
Speaker 1: woman committed hundreds of serious criminal statute violations, each caring
Speaker 1: up to twenty years in jail. But it's Hillary Clinton.
Speaker 1: What the hell, I'm gonna give her a free pass.
Speaker 1: Kind of like Pete Heseth went through a living hell
Speaker 1: using the signal chat that had nothing to do even
Speaker 1: close to what Hillary Clinton did. But the government, the media, comy,
Speaker 1: they all ignored it, didn't they.
Speaker 5: Yeah, isn't it interesting that this Jim Comy that you're
Speaker 5: describing his action in July of twenty sixteen, less than
Speaker 5: six months later, he is, you know, he's cooperating with
Speaker 5: Obama conspiring to subvert you know, the presidency of Donald Trump,
Speaker 5: who had just been elected in November. Uh. These people,
Speaker 5: you know, these these people are criminals. Jim Comey, James Clapper,
Speaker 5: John Brennan, and of course there are more. But I
Speaker 5: focused on their their meeting in December and January, wherein
Speaker 5: they actually plotted and extended coup d'eta against the duly
Speaker 5: elected president of the United States. This is the highest
Speaker 5: kind of crime. This has to be prosecuted, or we're
Speaker 5: going to get you know, or we're going to stay
Speaker 5: a banana Republic. I mean, you know, we look back
Speaker 5: over the last four years, and what do we see.
Speaker 5: We saw a president that was absentee, that probably there
Speaker 5: was massive vote fraud that got him in office. And
Speaker 5: then when he was in office, he wasn't around to
Speaker 5: sign any a lot of a lot of the of
Speaker 5: the bills and the executive orders were all done by
Speaker 5: you know, by this auto sign program, right.
Speaker 1: Scott Powell. Let's talk about the meeting on December the eighth,
Speaker 1: because by then the outcome of the election of twenty
Speaker 1: sixteen was known. It was a shock to the political system,
Speaker 1: especially in Washington. They live in that bubble that somehow
Speaker 1: Donald Trump won. And so what happened is describe what
Speaker 1: happened at the December eighth, twenty sixteen meeting headquartered in
Speaker 1: the White House, conducted the orchestrator. The conductor was Barack
Speaker 1: Husain Obama, the sitting president, with Comy and Brennan and
Speaker 1: Clapper and Susan Rice, Andrew McCabe, Sally h Describe what
Speaker 1: happened at that meeting.
Speaker 5: Well, we could go back a day earlier to December seventh,
Speaker 5: twenty sixteen. This is after the election, as you point out,
Speaker 5: and there were talking points were prepared for D and
Speaker 5: I James Clapper, it's the Director of National Intelligence stating quote,
Speaker 5: foreign adversaries did not use cyber attacks on election infrastructs
Speaker 5: to alter the US presidential election. That was acknowledged. On
Speaker 5: December ninth, President President Obama's White House gathered top National
Speaker 5: Security councils, principles people you've already named, James Clapper, John Brannan,
Speaker 5: Susan Rice, John carry Letter, Rinch, Andrew mccab and others
Speaker 5: to discuss Russia. So what they decided to do was,
Speaker 5: we're gonna, you know, we're gonna get Trump by tying
Speaker 5: Russia around his neck, even though there was no evidence
Speaker 5: that you know, that the Russians really colluded or affected
Speaker 5: the election of twenty sixteen, but they wanted to. They
Speaker 5: saw that as the avenue that they could have a
Speaker 5: successful subversion and coupe eta against Donald Trump. And so
Speaker 5: they proceeded, and we all know what happened. There was
Speaker 5: the Muller hearings that went on for what almost two years.
Speaker 5: There were two impeachments that were unrelated to Russia. But
Speaker 5: still the whole campaign was to destroy a president who
Speaker 5: was duly elected by the people. This is the highest
Speaker 5: crime against Americans, its highest crime against our constitution. The
Speaker 5: constitution provides for the people choosing their government.
Speaker 1: What a novel concept.
Speaker 5: Common sense of the people is oftentimes better than the elites.
Speaker 1: So go back a little further. In this summer and
Speaker 1: fall of twenty sixteen, the D and I the intelligence
Speaker 1: community found no evidence. In fact, they stated in writing
Speaker 1: that the Russians were not trying to influence the election,
Speaker 1: that the so called Steele dossier was made up by
Speaker 1: Clintonistas in order to counterbalance the behavior of Hillary Clinton.
Speaker 1: And it was known by these characters call me and Brennan,
Speaker 1: and Rice and Andrew McCabe, etc. They knew that there
Speaker 1: was no Russian collusion with Trump. It didn't occur. But
Speaker 1: they said, what do we do now, because we might
Speaker 1: be in trouble. He's going to come into the White House.
Speaker 1: Let's pin him down. Let's get Robert Muller, one of
Speaker 1: our own. Let's get him time down for the first
Speaker 1: year or two. And that will subvert and thwart the
Speaker 1: will of some seventy million Americans that wanted a new
Speaker 1: president and this small clique headed up by Barack Husin
Speaker 1: Obama did not want it to take place.
Speaker 5: That's right. And of course the first piece of flesh
Speaker 5: they got one was none other than General Michael Flynn,
Speaker 5: who they got, you know, probably about two weeks into
Speaker 5: the the administration of Donald Trump. They ran a campaign,
Speaker 5: you know, a bait and switch, you know, questioning that
Speaker 5: they set up, They set up Flynn, and then it
Speaker 5: was leaked, you know. Then it was suggested that Flynn
Speaker 5: would be a liability and the Trump should should get
Speaker 5: ready wonderful. Actually, actually Flynn would have been the greatest
Speaker 5: asset that Trump had because he knew where all the
Speaker 5: bodies were buried. He was the you know, he had
Speaker 5: been the director of National Intelligence under Obama, and he
Speaker 5: you know, he was very good, I mean in terms
Speaker 5: of the world of intelligence, he was probably one of
Speaker 5: the very best.
Speaker 1: And so they did not let the will of the
Speaker 1: America people be heard. And then this contains to metastasized
Speaker 1: until October of twenty twenty. In twenty twenty, the same
Speaker 1: characters headed up by Obama and Rice and Brennan and
Speaker 1: Clapper and Comy and others, put together a fraudulent active
Speaker 1: measure to undermine the electoral outcome by saying the twenty
Speaker 1: twenty election, which Donald Trump, of course was involved in.
Speaker 1: They had the fifty one former intelligence officials on a
Speaker 1: letter published all over the world that Trump was accused
Speaker 1: of being a Russian asset and suggesting New York Post
Speaker 1: to report on Hunter Biden's laptop had the hallmarks of
Speaker 1: Russian disinformation. And the same characters got their other their
Speaker 1: buddies to try to change the outcome of the twenty
Speaker 1: twenty election, which they successfully did.
Speaker 5: They absolutely did. And you know, polls were taken that
Speaker 5: had that story not been black belt, had the Hunter
Speaker 5: Biden laptop story just been allowed, you know, to be
Speaker 5: reported on and not discredited, that that would have made
Speaker 5: the difference. The election would have gone to Donald Trump.
Speaker 1: But well, I mean, compare this to the Epstein scandal.
Speaker 1: Compare this to a birthday greeting from Trump to Epstein
Speaker 1: a quarter of a century ago, that this is telling
Speaker 1: the American electorate, our elections are fraudulent. We will decide
Speaker 1: for you who's going to be the next president, and
Speaker 1: if you decide the wrong way, we're going to ruin
Speaker 1: this guy before he gets into office, then time down
Speaker 1: the first two years, then continue it all the way
Speaker 1: through to today about attacking him. Scott Powet, you couldn't
Speaker 1: make this up. I can't imagine the column you've written
Speaker 1: could be any better. You can never forget that liberty
Speaker 1: demands on justice. And I also I see the Trumpsters
Speaker 1: released a nice little video in which Obama and others
Speaker 1: are talking about no one's above the law. In fact,
Speaker 1: there's a nice clip of Barack Hussein Obama saying presidents
Speaker 1: are not above the law. Well is Obama above the law?
Speaker 5: Well, they shouldn't be above the law. But he has
Speaker 5: been above the law. All these people that you've described
Speaker 5: have been above the law for years. And it is
Speaker 5: time that we restore justice in high places. It's time
Speaker 5: that people go to jail. Actually, because one of our
Speaker 5: penalties for violating the law that deters would be other
Speaker 5: you know, people that are tempted or inclined to abuse
Speaker 5: their their position and power to say, well, gee, I
Speaker 5: don't want to go to jail. Maybe I shouldn't do that.
Speaker 5: I mean, that is one of the key roles of
Speaker 5: law enforcement is to deter of there would be criminals
Speaker 5: from carrying out their criminal behavior and we haven't done
Speaker 5: that for years, and so what have we had. We've
Speaker 5: had more and more crime in high places. This latest
Speaker 5: crime of creating a coup d'etat to subvert a president,
Speaker 5: a duly elected president, is the worst crime ever committed,
Speaker 5: perhaps in American history. And kudos go to Tulsi Gabbert.
Speaker 5: You know a former Democrat, uh who had the courage
Speaker 5: to do this. I mean, it's wonderful to see that
Speaker 5: courage and she needs to be We need to pray
Speaker 5: for her because they'll go after her now too.
Speaker 1: Well. The director of Day and I, Tulsa Gabert, was
Speaker 1: on Friday Friday evening on a Fox show and she
Speaker 1: said they're striking findings from declassified information, claiming the show
Speaker 1: case showcase overwhelming evidence that Obama era cabal led the
Speaker 1: groundwork for what would be years long Trump Russian collusion
Speaker 1: probe after the twenty sixteen elections, that the participants in
Speaker 1: the Holy Cabal knew were lies. And now she's saying
Speaker 1: there's many whistleblowers fearing criminal indictments on them. The so
Speaker 1: called underlings are coming forward to testify before Grand jurys
Speaker 1: in the state of Florida, not Washington, d C. Where
Speaker 1: Republicans are always convicted and Democrats are always set free.
Speaker 1: But in the state, the free state of Florida, that
Speaker 1: they're going to have a fair hearing to determine beginning
Speaker 1: with Barack Hussein Obama and others, Hillary Clinton that had
Speaker 1: this spoken conspiracy to thwart the will of the American
Speaker 1: people and to changed the outcome of elections illegally, which
Speaker 1: is exactly what they're accusing Trump of having done. They've
Speaker 1: already done it. Trump hasn't changed the outcome of election.
Speaker 1: Whatever they accused Trump of doing. Hell, they've already done
Speaker 1: as armor. But I'll see where it goes. But Scott Powell,
Speaker 1: the next few weeks is going to be interesting. I
Speaker 1: know it's a big deal. The last three or four
Speaker 1: days there's been no media coverage of the referral from
Speaker 1: D and I to the Department of Justice, And essentially,
Speaker 1: I know it's a big story because all we're talking
Speaker 1: about is Jeffrey Epstein and the other thing. The other
Speaker 1: big story is the mental incompetence of Joe Biden that
Speaker 1: they installed in office who was mentally incompetent and couldn't
Speaker 1: be the president so they had the everyone around him
Speaker 1: was conducting a presidency without the guy installed by the
Speaker 1: intelligence community in the Washington Post in sixty minutes. They
Speaker 1: tried their damnedness. They got Biden installed, and they did
Speaker 1: their best to get Harris installed, and it didn't work
Speaker 1: this time.
Speaker 5: But well, look at the consequences of the Biden administration.
Speaker 5: Oh my god, I mean, when we have this kind
Speaker 5: of fraudulent law breaking, what's the result. The result is
Speaker 5: we had open borders, twenty million immigrants came into our country.
Speaker 5: We have chaos in our cities as a result, largely
Speaker 5: as a result of this invasion. You know, our country
Speaker 5: was invaded by illegal immigrants in huge numbers. It can
Speaker 5: be as it might be as large as twenty million
Speaker 5: immigrants came in under the Biden years. And Biden wasn't
Speaker 5: a legitimate president. So we can see how all this
Speaker 5: is orchestrated to destroy America. And it's time that American
Speaker 5: people really woke up understood this. The actual people that
Speaker 5: would support this is such a small minority. So let's
Speaker 5: you know, let's bring an end to all this corruption
Speaker 5: and let's get back to the common sense of the
Speaker 5: American people voting and having their votes properly counted, and
Speaker 5: that the government that the people put in place can
Speaker 5: legislate and conduct business, you know, without interference.
Speaker 1: Scott Powell, what a novel concept that the people vote
Speaker 1: and those in power accept the outcome of elections and
Speaker 1: then don't work in order to thwart the will of
Speaker 1: the people by causing the indictments and the trials of
Speaker 1: all the people around Donald Trump try to and then
Speaker 1: they installed in office Joe Biden, and they knew was
Speaker 1: mentally incompetent and did their best to get Harris in
Speaker 1: the presidency. We have to run, Scott Powell. All your
Speaker 1: stuff is out. I pick up all your stuff at
Speaker 1: town hall dot com. And as Barack Hussein Obama said famously,
Speaker 1: not even the president is above the law. Well we'll
Speaker 1: see about that, all right, Scott Powell. You're a great American.
Speaker 1: Thank you very much. Thank you, Bill, God bless you.
Speaker 1: Let's continue some more. I guess if Obama's indicted, what's
Speaker 1: going to be the bond? And uh is he above
Speaker 1: the law? Bill Cunningham with you every Sunday night, cunning
Speaker 1: im the great America. Of course, no one's above the law.
Speaker 1: You're going to have a president and diet it for
Speaker 1: a paperwork with a porn star and get forty three
Speaker 1: count indictment. How about when you have a conspiracy, a
Speaker 1: seditious conspiracy to violate the law of the United States
Speaker 1: and then overthrow the United States government? Does that apply?
Speaker 1: Is that as important as as Stormy to annuls? Democrats
Speaker 1: would say no, right, let's continue with more coming up.
Speaker 1: Next to Michael McDonald of the Catholic lead about what's
Speaker 1: happening in universities today, Bill cunning into Great American with
Speaker 1: you every I mean by Billy Cunningham, the Great American.
Speaker 1: Of course, lots has happening in a lot is happening
Speaker 1: in Christianity and Catholicism, and what's happening around the world.
Speaker 1: Hopefully there's a beacon of light. These are special times
Speaker 1: of being an American. We have the Olympics are coming
Speaker 1: sadly to Los Angeles. God knows what that's going to
Speaker 1: look look like. Next year, the World Cup is coming
Speaker 1: all over the North America sphere. We're gonna have Mexicans,
Speaker 1: Americans and Canadians every which way. Also, we have an
Speaker 1: American pope, which was impossible, Pope Leo the fourteenth. There's
Speaker 1: that number again, Pete Rose, Pete Rose, Pope Leo the fourteenth,
Speaker 1: Donald Trump, and the White House. So to me that's
Speaker 1: the Mount rushmore of good events, Olympics, World Cup, Pope Leo,
Speaker 1: and Donald Trump. But the Catholic League Headquarter, New York
Speaker 1: City has a column up about Georgetown University Georgetown's Muslim Problem,
Speaker 1: penned by Bill Donaghue. One of his great apostles and
Speaker 1: disciples is the Great Michael McDonald. And Michael McDonald, welcome
Speaker 1: again to the Bill Cunningham Show. And Michael, can you
Speaker 1: tell the American people about Georgetown which is indicative of
Speaker 1: most Catholic education? I might add it is true probably
Speaker 1: at Saint John's. I don't know about Catholic University or
Speaker 1: Saint Louis. I don't know, Xavier, I don't know, but
Speaker 1: speak about the Georgetown Muslim problem.
Speaker 3: Bill, Great to be with you again, And yes, Georgetown
Speaker 3: is unfortunately one of the flagship Catholic universities in this country,
Speaker 3: and they have pretty much fallen off of anything that
Speaker 3: looks like anything resembling old school Catholicism. But yeah, so
Speaker 3: they've got a professor there, Jonathan Brown, who's found himself
Speaker 3: in a little bit of hot water. This week, the
Speaker 3: interim president of Georgetown was testifying before Congress about shockingly
Speaker 3: all of these anti Semitism things that are on campus
Speaker 3: across the country and every single all these big schools
Speaker 3: in New York, all across the country, and Georgetown unfortunately
Speaker 3: is not immune to that. Actually, some of the Catholic
Speaker 3: schools have been doing better on that front, but Georgetown
Speaker 3: is following, unfortunately, the lead of all these secular, you know,
Speaker 3: premier institutions and copying them. And we shouldn't be surprised.
Speaker 3: So anyway, Jonathan Brown, he has been putting out some
Speaker 3: the hot takes, and he got himself into trouble saying
Speaker 3: that when Trump ordered the bombing over there and I
Speaker 3: ran that, oh he really hopes that I ran responds
Speaker 3: by bombing an American base, which you know, that's completely
Speaker 3: ridiculous thing to say. Care has come out in his
Speaker 3: defense because Jonathan Brown, the name doesn't sound but he's
Speaker 3: a convert Islam. He's in charge of Islamic Study's there.
Speaker 3: They've come out. Karas come out in his defense. They
Speaker 3: counsel on American Islamic Relations come out in his defense.
Speaker 3: That we just don't understand what he meant by that,
Speaker 3: that that was actually something peaceful. Now, if you want
Speaker 3: to say something peaceful, you could say something I don't know,
Speaker 3: like I'm glad that i Ran isn't going to be
Speaker 3: able to develop nuclear weapons to wipe Israel in America
Speaker 3: off the face of the earth. That's something you could say.
Speaker 3: And I sure hope they don't shoot back at us,
Speaker 3: But that's something you can say if you don't want
Speaker 3: to see things get bigger. But this guy says, no, no,
Speaker 3: they need, they need to bomb an American base. It's
Speaker 3: ridiculous in that of line and Bill don He wrote
Speaker 3: a letter today you can see that up on our
Speaker 3: website Catholic League dot org, to the interim president of
Speaker 3: Georgetown saying, you guys, do something about this, because this
Speaker 3: is an academic freedom.
Speaker 1: In fact, whether it's Columbia or whether it's Brown, or
Speaker 1: whether it's Saint John's or whether it's UCLA, extremism on
Speaker 1: the left is acceptable. Moderate conservatism on the right is not.
Speaker 1: Let me share with the American people what Professor Jonathan
Speaker 1: Brown actually said. Quote. I am not an expert, but
Speaker 1: I assume Iran could still get a bomb easily. I
Speaker 1: hope Iran does some symbolic strike on a base then
Speaker 1: everyone stops quote unquote. I would assume to get a
Speaker 1: bomb doesn't refer necessarily to a bunker buster. It may
Speaker 1: be a nuclear weapon. When you talk about a bomb,
Speaker 1: that to me that the little article A means something. And
Speaker 1: when that was issued, the President called him in and
Speaker 1: said take that thing down immediately. He also brown is
Speaker 1: the son in law of convicted terrorists. Supporter Aluranian defended
Speaker 1: Hamas and more than that, he said, quote is has
Speaker 1: been engaged in a genocidal project for decades quote unquote.
Speaker 1: And so the fact that this professor, maybe if you're
Speaker 1: at Ohio State University or maybe University of Alabama, of
Speaker 1: a great public, large university, you might have this kind
Speaker 1: of hatred on the left, But to have it at
Speaker 1: a Catholic university is that really the problem.
Speaker 3: That is a big part of the problem. And I
Speaker 3: mean it is a shame that Georgetown would have a
Speaker 3: faculty on their staff that sounds like Elmo's Twitter on Sunday.
Speaker 3: This is ridiculous that they would have that. We go
Speaker 3: this far down the rabbit hole of trying to be
Speaker 3: accepted by these secular elites, completely rejecting Catholic teaching, bringing
Speaker 3: in a radical promoter of the craziest elements of the
Speaker 3: extreme Islamic movement that says, you know, slavery is okay,
Speaker 3: Rape's okay because you said things like that. Bill hasn't
Speaker 3: in his book. You can see it in the column
Speaker 3: on Catholic League dot or going into all of this
Speaker 3: stuff that this crazy professor has said. And the University
Speaker 3: of Georgetown just looks at and Charleston says, like, you
Speaker 3: know what this this is?
Speaker 6: Okay?
Speaker 3: Hey, come on, like you should be better than that, Georgetown.
Speaker 3: The best thing about your school can't be that Ed
Speaker 3: Cooley's your basketball coach. I like Cooley when he is
Speaker 3: a Providence a little bit of a homer there, but
Speaker 3: that can't be the best thing about it. You're supposed
Speaker 3: to be one of the premier Catholic institutions in this country.
Speaker 3: I mean, you're supposed to be right up there with
Speaker 3: Notre Dame, right like everyone knows Notre Dame. Georgetown's supposed to,
Speaker 3: you know, be in that vein. And instead of upholding
Speaker 3: the beautiful tradition of higher Catholic education, instead you're just
Speaker 3: bringing in these fringe wacos to promote these outlandish talking
Speaker 3: points that are not only reprehensible but contrary to the
Speaker 3: teaching of the Church, and you're gonna make them in
Speaker 3: charge of the department. Hopefully they do something about this
Speaker 3: that that's what we're calling for them to do something
Speaker 3: about this. Hopefully action will be taken, because this just
Speaker 3: should not be tolerated at a premier Catholic institution in
Speaker 3: this country.
Speaker 1: Michael McDonald of the Catholic League. Professor Jonathan Brown, among
Speaker 1: other things, has said that he has publicly maintained that
Speaker 1: slavery is okay provided in his ground in Islam. In
Speaker 1: twenty seventeen, he said, quote, there is no such thing
Speaker 1: as slavery in Islam. Until you realize that there's no
Speaker 1: such thing as slavery, so slave and by the way,
Speaker 1: the Arabs, the Muslims, or the main driving force of
Speaker 1: the transatlantic slave trade Islamic. Of course, the words slave
Speaker 1: comes from slav and you look at the history. Thomas
Speaker 1: sold did a great book on this that the Arab
Speaker 1: Muslims do. Actually I don't know about today, but for
Speaker 1: centuries they thought slavery was okay in fact, they thought
Speaker 1: slavery was mandated by the Holy Book, by the Quran.
Speaker 1: And he's simply expressing what Islamic thought was also rape
Speaker 1: and what happened on October the seventh that that was
Speaker 1: pursuing to the Holy Book, the Qur'an. In fact, when
Speaker 1: I watched some of the videos, which I've done recently,
Speaker 1: again they're sick. On October the seventh, I see that
Speaker 1: the uh, the Hamas and the Palestinian warriors are shouting
Speaker 1: Islamic phrases as they rape children in Israel. And this
Speaker 1: professor says, there's no such thing as rape, it's demanded
Speaker 1: by Islam, no such thing as slavery. So how in
Speaker 1: the world and of Catholic University in the nation's capital
Speaker 1: hired this guy for years to teach students about.
Speaker 3: What exactly to indoctrinate them, they somehow this woke support
Speaker 3: for the Intifada is somehow acceptable. No, as Catholics, we
Speaker 3: are called to uphold the truth. UH number one. Number two,
Speaker 3: the point of academia is actually supposed to be exploring
Speaker 3: the truth. There is no truth in any of those statements.
Speaker 3: There is nothing that you can say, yeah, you know
Speaker 3: what that UH that's grounded.
Speaker 5: That that's a reason.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'll entertain that, you know, over drinks in the
Speaker 3: faculty lounges. Come on, like, you gotta be doing something
Speaker 3: that is actually advancing the minds of young people, making
Speaker 3: them think deeper, learn more, holistically, learn about the truth.
Speaker 3: Get involved in the great academic debates of our time. Fine,
Speaker 3: you know, you want to have a debate about a
Speaker 3: Middle East policy fund, you can talk about that. But
Speaker 3: to say that, you know what, it's okay that Hamas
Speaker 3: went in there and killed over twelve thousand Israelis, that's
Speaker 3: a good thing. No, you can't say that. That's not
Speaker 3: advancing any sort of truth. There's no debate there, that's
Speaker 3: not any sort of rational take. That's someone that should
Speaker 3: be relegated to the fringest corners of the internet. But
Speaker 3: somehow George sounds like, yeah, he can be in charge
Speaker 3: of an academic department. That's that's great.
Speaker 1: Come on, how would you respond, Michael McDonald to the argument, Well,
Speaker 1: after all, this is the first Amendment, you have the
Speaker 1: right out of the first Amendment. I guess Georgetown received
Speaker 1: He's a lot of public money in one sense or another,
Speaker 1: not directly, but indirectly and therefore this Professor Jonathan Brown,
Speaker 1: supported by the most extreme elements of ISLAMA, might add,
Speaker 1: including care which has been designed that is a terrorist organization.
Speaker 1: I believe that somehow this is the first amendment. This
Speaker 1: is college. You have other viewpoints being expressed. This is
Speaker 1: something you can pick up or discard. One can only
Speaker 1: imagine if you're sitting in Professor Jonathan Brown's classes and
Speaker 1: you have a different viewpoint, what grade you would receive?
Speaker 1: But that's different. But how do you respond to the argument.
Speaker 1: Everyone's got the right to expression and the right to
Speaker 1: free speech.
Speaker 3: Yeah, John Brown has Jonathan Brown absolutely has that right
Speaker 3: of free speech. He does not have that right in
Speaker 3: the classroom. Right if he wanted to go down to
Speaker 3: the Verizon Center and rent the place out and have
Speaker 3: his fringe kooky, we love radical islamis convention and talk
Speaker 3: so the cows come home about how he thinks the
Speaker 3: Maas is wonderful. That's one thing I wouldn't go. I
Speaker 3: think most normal, sane people would try to avoid that,
Speaker 3: like the plague. But he should be able to have
Speaker 3: that right. Or if he wants to go out to
Speaker 3: the National Mall and you know, rent some space and
Speaker 3: have his little value there. Fine, he can do that,
Speaker 3: But the point of academia is you're supposed to be
Speaker 3: teaching people the truth, not indoctrinating them to this woke,
Speaker 3: radical left nonsense. You're supposed to be teaching them the truth,
Speaker 3: introducing them to the great debates of our time, making
Speaker 3: them scholars, making them learn more so that they are
Speaker 3: prepared to participate in public life. But no, instead you're
Speaker 3: promoting this stuff which is contrary to the truth and
Speaker 3: fundamentally runs against Catholic moral teaching. You should not have
Speaker 3: the University of Georgetown as that platform. If you want
Speaker 3: to say that stuff, knock yourself out, go out, rent
Speaker 3: your own space, go to a free speech area. But
Speaker 3: the point of the universe is commitment to the truth,
Speaker 3: and the point of a Catholic university is commitment to
Speaker 3: the Catholic Church and the truth. And this guy is
Speaker 3: running a foul on both of those things. And it
Speaker 3: is a shame that he is allowed to work at Georgetown.
Speaker 1: Well, he had a question and answer session a few
Speaker 1: years ago, Professor Jonathan Brown, and he is the prophet
Speaker 1: Mohammed owned slaves. During the question to answer period that
Speaker 1: followed his talk. He said the following me about the
Speaker 1: Islamic prophet quoak Mohammad had slaves. There's no denying that,
Speaker 1: and so so what you must follow the example of
Speaker 1: Mohammad by owning slaves. Now, you can only imagine in
Speaker 1: many contexts in today's world, if elements of the African
Speaker 1: American community, and certainly me and you included, would have
Speaker 1: someone being paid large amounts of money at a great
Speaker 1: public university advocating for the ownership of slaves in twenty
Speaker 1: twenty five. In July twenty twenty five, we're going to
Speaker 1: have Georgetown have an advocate for and the rape of children.
Speaker 1: That that might be a bridge too far. But until
Speaker 1: your column, until and also Congressman at Leastafani got involved,
Speaker 1: this guy, Professor Jonathan Brown, would still be still be
Speaker 1: I guess he's still teaching at Georgetown. We'll see what
Speaker 1: happens in September. But except for notifying Georgetown as to
Speaker 1: what this guy has said and written, would he have
Speaker 1: no problems continuing to teach at Georgetown?
Speaker 3: Yeah, he probably would. I mean, this is actually very sad,
Speaker 3: the lack of character, and I'm very glad that you're
Speaker 3: talking about this. But the outside of you and a
Speaker 3: couple of other people in the media, and not even
Speaker 3: talking like mainstream mediately. I'm talking more like the closer
Speaker 3: to the like minded fellow travelers to you, Bill, even
Speaker 3: they're not really picking up on this. Off the Catholic
Speaker 3: press is completely ignoring this, which which is a shame.
Speaker 3: I think we might be the only you know, quote
Speaker 3: unquote new Catholic news agency type things that's saying anything
Speaker 3: about this, but it needs to be said. You know,
Speaker 3: if the donor class doesn't like it, if you know,
Speaker 3: I will worry about the endowment and things like that.
Speaker 3: I'm sorry. The truth has to mean something. The teachings
Speaker 3: of the church have to mean something, especially when you
Speaker 3: are the one of the premier Catholic institutions in this country.
Speaker 3: That should matter to you. Upholding sacred truth, sacred tradition
Speaker 3: should matter. I'm not just oh, we've got a crazy
Speaker 3: lefty fringe academic here as well, just like all these
Speaker 3: other big schools. So please give us some of No,
Speaker 3: they can't be. That can't be our position. We have
Speaker 3: to uphold the sacred traditions that have been handed down
Speaker 3: to us for generations. Whether people find an offensive or not.
Speaker 1: Well. The CARE the Council of American Islamic Relations, declared
Speaker 1: by many to be a supporter of terrorist organizations, and
Speaker 1: a letter said the following. We urged Georgetown University to
Speaker 1: immediately sees any investigation or discipline related to doctor Brown's tweet. Instead,
Speaker 1: the university should affirm its commitment to protecting academic freedom,
Speaker 1: resisting political intimidation, and standing with faculty members who have
Speaker 1: dedicated their careers to the pursuit of knowledge, justice, and dialogue.
Speaker 1: Owning slaves and raping children is that the pursuit of knowledge, justice,
Speaker 1: and dialogue? See?
Speaker 3: Yeah, According to CARE, it is, and that should say something.
Speaker 3: It's rightfully so that the United Air Memorates put them
Speaker 3: down as as organization that at least deponing points out
Speaker 3: that just this week points out that these guys were
Speaker 3: unindicted co conspiracors and the terrorists financing scheme. And you know,
Speaker 3: I'm just saying this to Jonathan Brown. I doubt he'll
Speaker 3: hear this, but maybe somehow I'll get back to him.
Speaker 3: If those are the people that are coming to your defense,
Speaker 3: look at your life, look at your choices. What are
Speaker 3: you doing here? Like you clearly have not been making
Speaker 3: the best life choices. If these are the people coming
Speaker 3: to your defense, that should just say enough that you know,
Speaker 3: I really need to go to confession, change my ways.
Speaker 1: I'm on the right course, and I think some parent
Speaker 1: or someone is spending about eighty thousand dollars a year
Speaker 1: to be in doctrinated at Georgetown instead of educated. Once again, quote,
Speaker 1: there is no such thing as slavery in Islam, Professor
Speaker 1: Jonathan Brown, defended by the radical left. Keep teaching, keep
Speaker 1: making that money, and slavery does not exist. Rape does
Speaker 1: not exist. Wow, all right, Michael McDonald, Catholic League dot org.
Speaker 1: Lots of good stuff up. I wish the Catholic Christian
Speaker 1: press would pick this up. I know that CNN and NPR,
Speaker 1: which may not exist much longer, is not going to
Speaker 1: pick it up. ABCNBCCBS not going to pick it up
Speaker 1: because it doesn't fit their attitudes. But to have this
Speaker 1: guy teaching at the so called great university is to
Speaker 1: once again we got to run. Michael McDonald of the
Speaker 1: Catholic League dot org, thanks for coming on the Bill
Speaker 1: Cunningham Show. And you're a great American. Thank you, Michael.
Speaker 3: Thanks Billy, You're a great American.
Speaker 1: God bless Let's continue with more. How about that paying
Speaker 1: money to have your kids in doctrinated instead of educated.
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Speaker 1: overview of what's happening with Donald Trump and the White
Speaker 1: House now been about six months that he's been there,
Speaker 1: and the change that we see already on college campuses
Speaker 1: and universities. I know it's affective because the left's crying
Speaker 1: like crazy. Just in general, how's been the change the
Speaker 1: last six months?
Speaker 4: It is win after win after win, both domestically and internationally.
Speaker 4: We are seeing peace throughout the world. We are seeing
Speaker 4: our economy coming back. We are seeing more confidence in
Speaker 4: the markets. It is an incredible time to be an American.
Speaker 4: And thanks to the Supreme Court, we now have a
Speaker 4: president who can actually act like a president in ruling
Speaker 4: after ruling after ruling, the Supreme Court has given the
Speaker 4: president what heretofore was thought to be the normal operations
Speaker 4: of a president, which is acting on reforms to the
Speaker 4: executive branch. But that actually had to be reaffirmed by
Speaker 4: the Supreme Court. And thank god, the Trump administration has
Speaker 4: been so smart about this. They've gone the legal route.
Speaker 4: They've gone us through all the way to the Supreme Court,
Speaker 4: and the Supreme Court again has now reaffirmed what most
Speaker 4: voters believe. Most Americans believe is that when you elect
Speaker 4: a president, he is allowed to do presidential things, so
Speaker 4: be prepared for more winning.
Speaker 1: Well, what a novel idea. The other day, the US
Speaker 1: Supreme Court said the president can control the hiring and
Speaker 1: firing at the US Department of Education, which is under
Speaker 1: the authority of the executive branch of government. That'd be
Speaker 1: like the president telling the Supreme Court who your law
Speaker 1: clerks have to be. It doesn't work that way. Separate,
Speaker 1: how we say, but equal, and each of the three
Speaker 1: branches control it. Now. Schools almost getting ready to start
Speaker 1: in about three weeks, and I'm watching I'm one of
Speaker 1: those weird people that watch the NEA Convention National Education Association,
Speaker 1: which is the largest teachers union in the country. And also,
Speaker 1: I would note that you live near Washington, d C.
Speaker 1: I live in Cincinnati, Ohio. No parent with a choice
Speaker 1: would send their kid to Cincinnati public schools if there's
Speaker 1: a choice, I would assume that no parent in the
Speaker 1: right mind would send their children to Washington d C.
Speaker 1: Public schools in their right mind. And I saw a
Speaker 1: poll with Gallop the other day that about sixty five
Speaker 1: percent of Americans do not like the public school system,
Speaker 1: which must continue a course as is. And so do
Speaker 1: you find it amazing the NEA spends all of its
Speaker 1: time attacking Donald Trump and not dealing with the education
Speaker 1: of America's children.
Speaker 4: And the other teachers unions have not cared about student
Speaker 4: achievement or students themselves or parents, for goodness sake, for decades.
Speaker 4: I'm not sure they ever did. But these organizations, these
Speaker 4: labor unions, are absolutely corrupt and corrosive and damaging to
Speaker 4: the educational system in this country. They really cared, they
Speaker 4: would care about the poor literacy rates and math achievement
Speaker 4: in this country, which are actually dangerous from a national
Speaker 4: security standpoint. If we are not educating our students to
Speaker 4: be able to take on innovation and frankly the defense
Speaker 4: of our country that is dangerous. They don't care about this.
Speaker 4: They certainly don't care about parents' rights and what the
Speaker 4: NEA is about now. And these other teachers' unions, what
Speaker 4: they exist to do is to maintain the status quo,
Speaker 4: to refuse academic choice to parents, educational choice to parents,
Speaker 4: and to keep kids trapped in these broken schools. Look,
Speaker 4: school choice is about choice, and if parents choose in
Speaker 4: areas of the country where, for instance, thirty five percent
Speaker 4: of people say they like their public schools, if they
Speaker 4: want to continue in those public schools.
Speaker 6: Nobody objects to that right.
Speaker 4: But we want to give people an opportunity to choose
Speaker 4: beyond the public schools. Perhaps if you're from a very
Speaker 4: conservative Catholic family, or you want to send your children
Speaker 4: to a Jewish institution or an institution run by Muslims,
Speaker 4: or maybe maybe a school is really good in sports, right,
Speaker 4: or maybe you want your children to go to an
Speaker 4: artsy school. We want to give parents that. Maybe you
Speaker 4: just want your children to learn to read, Okay, how
Speaker 4: about that the standards, Yeah, you know, we want to
Speaker 4: give people those opportunities. Nobody is suggesting destroying the public
Speaker 4: school education system in this country. It's about reform and
Speaker 4: it's about getting kids the basics so they can go
Speaker 4: on to being productive members of our society. I don't
Speaker 4: know why the Futures Union is against that, but they are.
Speaker 1: Well. It's a classic diversion tactic. That is, let's let's
Speaker 1: not discuss the failures of our policies for God and
Speaker 1: the failure of us to perform our essential functions as educators.
Speaker 1: Why don't we blame some inanimate object behind a tree
Speaker 1: somewhere and blame that person, the orange man. Blame him
Speaker 1: for our problems. He's only been there about six months,
Speaker 1: and we see what's going on. And one thing hurting
Speaker 1: I think is the lack of failure. You can't have
Speaker 1: a fourteen year old boy or girl in the second grade,
Speaker 1: and so it is known that in the public school
Speaker 1: system in the urban areas, there's no such a thing
Speaker 1: as failing. There's no such a thing as expectations, there's
Speaker 1: no such a thing as requiring parental involvement, and so
Speaker 1: you simply pass someone to the next grade irrespective of
Speaker 1: their mastering of the academic pursuits required for that grade level.
Speaker 1: And I can recall, going back twenty some years, George
Speaker 1: Bush said that is a fourth grade guarantee that by
Speaker 1: the third or fourth grade, your kid should be able
Speaker 1: to read and do basic math. And of course that
Speaker 1: was racist, sexist, and homophobic. We can't do that, and
Speaker 1: so wouldn't it be nice if we had a system
Speaker 1: in schools where the parents had to be involved. Secondly,
Speaker 1: there was achievement goals, and thirdly, no such thing as
Speaker 1: social promotion. What do you think about that one?
Speaker 4: You know, honestly. What also is amazing to me is
Speaker 4: that they are not talking about the lingering effects of COVID,
Speaker 4: the COVID closures which they championed, and they wanted to
Speaker 4: go on and on and on. We are seeing a
Speaker 4: generation of lost children that will never be able to
Speaker 4: live productive lives because of the actions of these teachers'
Speaker 4: unions that insisted that the schools be closed, and they
Speaker 4: used it as a bargaining chip to get more money,
Speaker 4: more vacation, better retirement benefits. And I guarantee you they
Speaker 4: have memory hold that whole issue. They've never apologized. There
Speaker 4: have never been any statement saying, Okay, we won't do
Speaker 4: this again. They don't look back and say, Okay, these
Speaker 4: are the decisions, these are the bad decisions. And you
Speaker 4: know why because Trump was elected and now all they're
Speaker 4: going to do is talk about Trump Trump Trump, and frankly,
Speaker 4: Trump haven't been elected. All it would have been is
Speaker 4: a cheerleading section for Kamala. This organization is nothing more
Speaker 4: an adjunct of the Democrat Party.
Speaker 1: Can you imagine Kamala Harris as the president with the
Speaker 1: oh just the name, it just against my hemborrhoids doing
Speaker 1: the macarena? I mean, can you imagine Kamala Harris with
Speaker 1: the problems in Kasa and the Ukraine, in our cities
Speaker 1: and that Mom Donnie's about to seize power in New
Speaker 1: York City and Kamala Harris is the president. What Tim Willholtz,
Speaker 1: the marshmallow man, Oh my god, what the thought.
Speaker 4: It would have been? It really would have been awful.
Speaker 4: And I mean, look, we've still got major urban areas
Speaker 4: in this country that are going communists, that are hopefully
Speaker 4: electing communists and radical supporters like this Minneapolis, the Somalian
Speaker 4: American nominee for for Minneapolis, the Minneapols, and and yeah,
Speaker 4: the mayor of Minneapolis, and Mom Dannie I mean, it
Speaker 4: is really shocking what we're seeing in certain areas of
Speaker 4: this country. Thank god Trump is there, and thank god
Speaker 4: we have the House and Senate by razor thin margins.
Speaker 3: But we better keep.
Speaker 4: Them because it is terrible. Look but the Democrat Party
Speaker 4: is the party from the river to the sea. They
Speaker 4: are the party of killing Jews. They are the party
Speaker 4: of Hamas support. They are the party of defund police,
Speaker 4: of harming kids through these shutdown. I mean, there is
Speaker 4: nothing good, and they're getting more and more radical. When
Speaker 4: David Hogg was too conservative for the DNC, you got
Speaker 4: a problem.
Speaker 1: Oh can you imagine David Hogg, Mom, Donnie and the
Speaker 1: King Jefferys in charge of us. Anyway, let's move on
Speaker 1: to something else because my mind is going nuts right
Speaker 1: now thinking of President Kamala Harris. I can't handle it.
Speaker 1: You wrote a great column. And I have a friend
Speaker 1: of her friend who tells me that they have a
Speaker 1: daughter who's thirteen years old, who believes she's in she's
Speaker 1: a daughter, she's a female, but she's locked in a
Speaker 1: female body. She wants to become a male, and the
Speaker 1: system in school, etc. Encourages her to transition. And you
Speaker 1: have a great column up that says, the Mom's Guide
Speaker 1: to parenting trans questioning kids. We don't let miners buy
Speaker 1: alcohol or cigarettes, but we let them cut off their genitals.
Speaker 1: So can you tell me? Can you tell me a
Speaker 1: mom's guide? You're like a mother in fact, you can
Speaker 1: have children. I cannot believe it or not. I don't
Speaker 1: have a uterus, and I cannot produce children, no matter
Speaker 1: how much I would like to. In fact, I think
Speaker 1: if men could get pregnant, I think abortion would be
Speaker 1: a sacra sacra. That's a different yet, So can you
Speaker 1: talk about a mom's guide to parenting trans questioning kids?
Speaker 4: Well, this is the reason these things are so important.
Speaker 4: The reason that we try to release this guide to
Speaker 4: parents is because parents are being lied to, not just
Speaker 4: from school officials, but from medical officials, medical personnel, which
Speaker 4: is probably the biggest tragedy here.
Speaker 6: And one of the reasons.
Speaker 4: Is the medical community, like many institutions in this country,
Speaker 4: has been sort of taken over by the radical left,
Speaker 4: and many of the medical organizations like the AMA and
Speaker 4: the American Pediatric Associates Association are run by a small
Speaker 4: cadre of medical officials who are wildly left. They take
Speaker 4: over these organizations and then they issue policies and they
Speaker 4: say this represents the entire medical community. It's a total lie.
Speaker 4: But some doctors are fooled by this. Some doctors are persuaded.
Speaker 4: And one of the lies out there is that if
Speaker 4: you do not give your child. This is a horrible,
Speaker 4: horrible phrase, but it is used by the left and
Speaker 4: it should never be used. But they like to use
Speaker 4: the term gender affirming care, which is is sex denying,
Speaker 4: mutilating surgeries and cross sex hormones.
Speaker 6: That's what it really is, okay.
Speaker 4: And there these poor parents are told if they deny
Speaker 4: their children these medical interventions, then their child will commit suicide.
Speaker 4: That is a terrible sophie's choice for parents.
Speaker 6: What do they do?
Speaker 4: Do they risk their center daughter committing suicide or do
Speaker 4: they mutilate their child? And so the reason that we
Speaker 4: wrote this guide is to explain to them these phrases
Speaker 4: that are being used, the politics at play, the great
Speaker 4: manipulation at play, and why the medical community, frankly and
Speaker 4: the psychology community cannot be trusted on this stuff. They
Speaker 4: are denying facts, they are denying science, and it is
Speaker 4: a very dangerous time for kids right now. So we
Speaker 4: wanted to offer parents some very basic guidance on how
Speaker 4: to navigate these really really difficult conversations with your kid.
Speaker 1: You know, the live daughter or dead son is the
Speaker 1: argument being used. And you have a posting that says
Speaker 1: children of all ages are being a couraged to entertain
Speaker 1: the dangerous myth they're born in the wrong body. Is
Speaker 1: a good parenting or to immediately affirm such declaration stopping
Speaker 1: natural puberty, removing healthy breast tissue, and even removing or
Speaker 1: altering healthy sexual organs. And every now and then I
Speaker 1: see d transitioners who are now twenty five and thirty
Speaker 1: years old whose lives have been because of puberty blockers
Speaker 1: and or surgery. And if someone is twenty or twenty
Speaker 1: five years old and wants to have it done, I
Speaker 1: may have a problem with that. If Tony Bender, my producer,
Speaker 1: shows up at the optimologist office and say, hey, doc,
Speaker 1: I identify as a blind man. Take out my eyeballs.
Speaker 1: Would the eye doctors say, hey, Tony, I want to
Speaker 1: affirm what you think you are. I'm taking out your eyeballs.
Speaker 1: Would that work?
Speaker 4: I am so glad that you say that, because I
Speaker 4: am not one of these libertarian types who says, Hey,
Speaker 4: you're an adult, you get to do whatever you want. No,
Speaker 4: you don't. I if I if I suddenly identify as
Speaker 4: a quadriplegic, are they going to snit my spine? Are
Speaker 4: they going to cut my legs off? I mean, this
Speaker 4: is not We should not be be basically telling people
Speaker 4: who have a mental issue, a mental health issue, that.
Speaker 6: We're going to do. Whatever.
Speaker 4: Do we affirm women who are and young men who
Speaker 4: are dealing with anarexia nervosa or bolimia. No, we don't
Speaker 4: affirm that kind of behavior. You know, there are lots
Speaker 4: of children who identify as certain things. We let them
Speaker 4: grow out of it, We let their brains mature. And look,
Speaker 4: the evidence is clear over in Sweden, they have done
Speaker 4: a tremendous amount of research on this and it shows
Speaker 4: that something like ninety percent of kids who have some
Speaker 4: sort of body more dysphoric issues grow out of it
Speaker 4: and go on to live very normal lives where they
Speaker 4: have not mutilated their bodies, they are not on cross
Speaker 4: sex hormones, and they go on to have normal lives.
Speaker 4: The fact that we are actually altering these children before
Speaker 4: they've reached maturity, and frankly, again, if you are an
Speaker 4: adult and you identify as a different sex, you should
Speaker 4: not affirm that you should get them counseling and help
Speaker 4: them to live in the body God gave them. Nobody
Speaker 4: is born in the wrong body. This is a sickness
Speaker 4: that should be treated, not affirmed.
Speaker 1: Lastly, you're one of your specialties at IWF dot org.
Speaker 1: Julie Gunlock is health things of that character. Right now,
Speaker 1: Bobby Kennedy Junior is in the cross airs of the
Speaker 1: ame the Pediatric Association by issuing different guidelines that he's
Speaker 1: not saying don't get vaccines. He's saying, here's the information.
Speaker 1: As a mother or father, you decide do you have
Speaker 1: ampathy for the verbal attack that Bobby Kennedy Junior is under.
Speaker 4: You know, Billy, I gotta be honest with you. I'm
Speaker 4: not not a huge fan of RK. I have worked
Speaker 4: on the vaccine issue for many years, and I am
Speaker 4: disappointed with some of the actions that he has taken.
Speaker 4: I am also disappointed, to be honest with you, in
Speaker 4: this recent you know, everybody's celebrating this week that you know, oh,
Speaker 4: you know ice cream is taking the dyes out of
Speaker 4: ice cream and taking the dyes out of this, and
Speaker 4: you know, different fast food restaurants switching from vegetable or
Speaker 4: seed oil to the tallow. You know, it's still French fries,
Speaker 4: and it's still ice cream made with fat and cream
Speaker 4: and sugar, so do I. And the infintesimal amount, the
Speaker 4: teeny teeny dose of red dye or whatever you're getting
Speaker 4: it is not harmful. We need to be teaching better
Speaker 4: eating habits, more exercise, getting kids outside, getting off their phones. Okay,
Speaker 4: this is the stuff. This is true health. Okay, taking
Speaker 4: a teeny tiny tiny bit of dye out of ice
Speaker 4: cream isn't going to do a dang thing to make
Speaker 4: anyone healthier. This is an unpopular opinion, especially with the monocraft,
Speaker 4: but I'm a little tired of this stuff. And you know,
Speaker 4: I'm really tired of people who say this stuff and
Speaker 4: then stick botulism in their face. Okay, both tax in
Speaker 4: their face and get all sorts of different you know, procedures.
Speaker 4: The bottom line is is that we are an unhealthy
Speaker 4: society because we have the freedom to make unhealthy choices
Speaker 4: that might not be popular with people, but you know,
Speaker 4: that's just the way freedom is. That's the way liberty is.
Speaker 4: You can make unhealthy decisions, and these tiny ingredient changes
Speaker 4: to food items are only going to make them more
Speaker 4: expensive and they're not going to make us healthier. So
Speaker 4: I don't exactly support everything on the vaccine issues. I
Speaker 4: think he's made some pretty startling and provocative moves, but
Speaker 4: I will tell you my sympathy is with him sometimes
Speaker 4: because this wouldn't be happening if the public health industry
Speaker 4: and the public health sort of arena hadn't acted so
Speaker 4: poorly during COVID. And what's more, they never apologized. Never,
Speaker 4: there was never any substruction, and not one person Fauci.
Speaker 4: He walks around still acting like a proud peacock. He
Speaker 4: never said, you know what, we overstepped. We should have
Speaker 4: done better. I shouldn't have funded that. Wuhan said, no,
Speaker 4: he never did.
Speaker 6: And so this is what you get when.
Speaker 4: You treat people like this, when you shut down businesses,
Speaker 4: when you force people to put foreign substances into their bodies,
Speaker 4: you bet you're going to get an anti VAXX movement.
Speaker 4: And so you know, I'm sort of I have complicated
Speaker 4: opinions on this, yes, but I feel like, you know,
Speaker 4: the public health community, they could have deserved what they got.
Speaker 1: Well, I'd say this, Joey Gunlocked. The crowd that says
Speaker 1: deed transition or shall I say transitioning, cutting off genitals
Speaker 1: is okay, Abortion is okay. Bo talks is great. But
Speaker 1: Bill Cunningham can eat his blue EM and MS. I
Speaker 1: like blue EM and M, so I pick out the
Speaker 1: red ones. I like the blue ones, and somehow I'm
Speaker 1: the problem. But I can get boattox, abortion, transitioning kids,
Speaker 1: that's all okay, But damn it, those blue mms are
Speaker 1: driving me nuts. All right, we got to run if
Speaker 1: dot Org. Julie Gunlock, you're the best. You're laughing. Thanks again,
Speaker 1: thanks for coming on the Bill Cunningham Show. Thank you, Julie.
Speaker 4: All right, God bless you.
Speaker 1: Well, let's continue with more. Eliminate the blue EM and
Speaker 1: MS as a health crisis for you. Bill Cunningham, the
Speaker 1: Grand American live with you every Sunday night, Billy Cunningham.
Speaker 1: First of all, congratulations to you and the American people.
Speaker 1: We put someone in office who knows what they're doing,
Speaker 1: has his wits about him. Is brilliant and right now,
Speaker 1: believe it or not, the so called ratings, the polling
Speaker 1: of Donald Trump is greater after all the Julie Epstein
Speaker 1: I'm sorry Epstein crap has been determined to be mainly false.
Speaker 1: Now even among Republicans after the Jeffrey Epstein doodling of
Speaker 1: twenty twenty about twenty twenty, about twenty five years ago
Speaker 1: than most now Republicans completely support Donald Trump. And the
Speaker 1: media doesn't know where to go next. Let's stay stay
Speaker 1: tuned for more. Ashley Banfield's coming up from News Nation,
Speaker 1: and she's going to talk about Epstein and what happened,
Speaker 1: also talk about coburger and more. A little segue, but
Speaker 1: she's excellent to this. In fact, no one I know
Speaker 1: is better in law and crime stories. And Ashley Banfield
Speaker 1: of the Great News Nation, of course run by Sean Compton,
Speaker 1: and so many Bill Cunning into Great American with you
Speaker 1: every Sunday, Bill Cunning in the Great America. And the
Speaker 1: Epstein debacle continues unabated, and more information is coming out,
Speaker 1: including a fiftieth birthday greeting card supposedly sent by Donald
Speaker 1: Trump and twenty oh three to Epstein in which she
Speaker 1: had some The Wall Street Journal said some body information
Speaker 1: allegedly that Donald drew the outline of a woman's naked
Speaker 1: body and put his name in the pubic region to
Speaker 1: demonstrate something to the effect of It's exciting, isn't it.
Speaker 1: And then he also had her breast in a certain
Speaker 1: outline way, and that Donald completely denies it. In fact,
Speaker 1: he says he called Rupert Murdock directly about fourteen hours
Speaker 1: ago and said, that's all bs. Don't do it, and
Speaker 1: if you put it in, it's going to be sued.
Speaker 1: And the Wall Street Journal did not put in their
Speaker 1: article anything about the card itself and whether they had
Speaker 1: possession of the card or not. And so this thing
Speaker 1: continues unabated, but nonetheless Ashley Banfield of News Nation has
Speaker 1: done a great reporting this week on three unanswered questions
Speaker 1: about the Epstein suicide, which is the foundation of many
Speaker 1: other things that had occurred. That he killed himself in
Speaker 1: August of twenty nineteen, and like many Americans, I was
Speaker 1: very suspicious in the beginning as to whether or I
Speaker 1: actually killed himself because it just seems almost impossible. And
Speaker 1: then information came out that he was murdered, and then
Speaker 1: more information came out it was maybe suicide. I don't
Speaker 1: know what the heck it was. But Ashley Banfield of
Speaker 1: News Nation welcome again to the Bill Cunningham Show, and Ashley,
Speaker 1: of course I watch every night that I can you,
Speaker 1: and there's no better crime reporter. You're good at this
Speaker 1: stuff about whether or not it was a crime or
Speaker 1: whether it was suicide. And the first I answered question
Speaker 1: was about Epstein's suicide. Was a guy named Friend Zeazi
Speaker 1: who was a member of the mob, and he had
Speaker 1: comments on your show about whether or not Epstein committed suicide.
Speaker 1: He said it could not have happened. So, first of all, welcome,
Speaker 1: and secondly, let's go over whether or not Epstein killed
Speaker 1: himself or not. The big one's number two, but number one,
Speaker 1: what did friend Zezi say about the availability of Epstein
Speaker 1: to actually kill himself in that cell?
Speaker 6: I hey, Bill, great to be on the show with you. Yeah.
Speaker 6: I mean, look, it's big because whenever there are big denials,
Speaker 6: stories tend to get more focus and attention. And Donald
Speaker 6: Trump has been doing a lot of denying lately. So
Speaker 6: let's start with that first one. Michael Franczi was a
Speaker 6: Columbo crime family boss and he literally spent time in
Speaker 6: that cell, and so he talked to us about the logistics,
Speaker 6: about what it's like to be in that cell, about
Speaker 6: how often the guards go by. And he professes that
Speaker 6: it is impossible for someone to hang himself and be
Speaker 6: in the position that Epstein was in with the sheets
Speaker 6: around his neck, leaning forward, tied to the bed without
Speaker 6: anybody seeing it or passing by within a three minute period. Now,
Speaker 6: I'm not so sure about that. I know how guards
Speaker 6: usually do rounds in jails, even when people are on
Speaker 6: suicide watch. They're not on you every three minutes. But look,
Speaker 6: I haven't been in that cell, and I'm not a
Speaker 6: crime boss. But he professes that he literally spent in
Speaker 6: the exact same cell, and that it would be impossible
Speaker 6: to carry out the kind of suicide that it's alleged
Speaker 6: Epstein did.
Speaker 1: So is it possible the guards did not do their
Speaker 1: duty for a long period of time and did not
Speaker 1: check on them every Yes, that's possible. But frenzies, you say,
Speaker 1: to hang himself that way, to be using a bed
Speaker 1: sheet and to lean forward, and then it would take
Speaker 1: several minutes for the actual death to occur in a
Speaker 1: terrible way. You would assume he'd be kicking, screaming, doing
Speaker 1: whatever in one sense or another. And yeah, I guess
Speaker 1: that's possible. I know that his attorney Alan Dershowitz as
Speaker 1: a column right now that's at the Wall Street Journal
Speaker 1: and elsewhere in which he believes that Epstein most likely
Speaker 1: killed himself based upon his representation. But most importantly Number
Speaker 1: two is the one that fascinates me. This is the
Speaker 1: actual video that was cut and the FBI and the
Speaker 1: DOJ insists Epstein's died by suicide in twenty nineteen. Forensic
Speaker 1: expert Jake Green believes it is concerning in almost three
Speaker 1: minutes of footage were cut from the source of the
Speaker 1: video near epstein cell the night before he was found dead,
Speaker 1: and three successive administrations have shall we say, not released information.
Speaker 1: Explain to the American people that cut video and how
Speaker 1: through analytics you can prove that someone changed the video
Speaker 1: of outside the cell as far as who went in
Speaker 1: who went out Epstein cell. Explain that.
Speaker 6: So I'll explain that, but I'll touch on the Dershwitz
Speaker 6: piece first, because Dershwitz has long been rumored to have
Speaker 6: been a very close Epstein associate. Lots of allegations have
Speaker 6: been flown, you know, flying his way. He's sued, sometimes
Speaker 6: successfully he settled, but he's also once again he also
Speaker 6: surfaced in this Wall Street Journal article of having written
Speaker 6: one of these body letters for Epstein's fiftieth birthday. So
Speaker 6: just you know, the hits keep coming. But as of
Speaker 6: the digital forensics, it is pretty damn fascinating when you
Speaker 6: hear what digital experts are able to see in the
Speaker 6: tape that the government professes is raw. For one thing,
Speaker 6: they say, one, it's not raw, it has been manipulated.
Speaker 6: They do not suggest that it has been manipulated in
Speaker 6: any kind of way that is intentionally, uh, you know,
Speaker 6: including malfeasans. They just say that there is two source
Speaker 6: pieces that have been stitched together manually. And it's not
Speaker 6: to say that there's something criminal here. It's just to say,
Speaker 6: if you profess that this is raw tape, it isn't.
Speaker 6: So you're going to have to be more clear and
Speaker 6: more transparent on the manipulation of the tape. Was it
Speaker 6: manipulated in that it was downloaded from the servers at
Speaker 6: the jail? Was it a picture of a picture, which
Speaker 6: is what Jay Green thinks it is. But no matter what,
Speaker 6: there are two source videos were stitched together, and the
Speaker 6: original source video has three minutes missing from it, and
Speaker 6: it actually even has a username. So whoever handed this
Speaker 6: stuff over to the press, I don't think was as
Speaker 6: good at digital forensics as Jake Green is. So.
Speaker 1: Jay Green said that the original tape was manipulated, that
Speaker 1: the three minutes the critical minutes were taken out, and
Speaker 1: wasn't there a date of twenty twenty three through analytics
Speaker 1: that someone spliced three minutes of the Epstein tape outside
Speaker 1: of the jail cell as if it was taken in
Speaker 1: real time in twenty nineteen.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean the date of the manipulation is on
Speaker 6: the metadata, right. So that's what's so fascinating is that
Speaker 6: it's like super easy to see this stuff. You're really
Speaker 6: smart when it comes to digital metadata. I am not
Speaker 6: so I am taking the Green's words for it, but
Speaker 6: he said, yes, it is not a twenty nineteen law source.
Speaker 1: The digital experts and the technical operations manager at Invista
Speaker 1: Forensics has analyzed a jail video and they're saying the
Speaker 1: so called metadata and the analytics demonstrate that the three
Speaker 1: minutes the critical minutes were created in twenty twenty three,
Speaker 1: not in twenty nineteen, which is pretty important. And I
Speaker 1: would add, reviewing the comments of Alan Dershowitz has been
Speaker 1: a guest on your show in Mind a Lot, and
Speaker 1: he said, quote, it is clear from the evidence that
Speaker 1: Epstein committed suicide. What isn't clear is whether he was
Speaker 1: helped by jail personnel, and Dershowitz says that seems likely
Speaker 1: to me based on the evidence of allegedly broken cameras,
Speaker 1: transfer of as cellmate, and the absence of guards during
Speaker 1: relevant time periods. Now, the number of people that would
Speaker 1: have to be involved for them would be, of course
Speaker 1: one or two murderers, the jail guards themselves, and I
Speaker 1: guess those responsible for letting people inside the jail in
Speaker 1: order to do the murder. By the time you started
Speaker 1: raveling this thread, it gets Isn't it unlikely that numerous
Speaker 1: people looking forward to the presidency of a second presidency
Speaker 1: of Donald Trump in twenty nineteen would want to kill
Speaker 1: Jeffrey Epstein in a way in which numerous people would
Speaker 1: have to be involved, all of which have kept silent
Speaker 1: about it. Isn't that someone unusual?
Speaker 6: Yeah? I mean, I have gone back and forth on
Speaker 6: all of the theories, and I'm not one to jump
Speaker 6: on board conspiracy theories. I'm just not typically, you know,
Speaker 6: Spidey senses when you're a reporter suggests series or theories.
Speaker 6: Facts are where I go, and I always come to
Speaker 6: that resolution that it is astounding. If it is actually
Speaker 6: a murder, there would have to be a lot of
Speaker 6: people all on board, not only to carry it out,
Speaker 6: but to keep it quiet for so long. And that's
Speaker 6: one of the reasons I have a tough time believing
Speaker 6: that Jeffrey Epstein was murdered. That said, every time I
Speaker 6: look at the facts, I have a tough time with
Speaker 6: those two. Like I have a really tough time hearing
Speaker 6: about all the cameras out. Michael Francizi, the capital crime boss,
Speaker 6: said no, the cameras aren't typically all out, especially on
Speaker 6: that mezzanine and that area where Epstein was housed. And
Speaker 6: not only that, there were multiple jail sheets found in
Speaker 6: his cell. That is also unlikely and unusual. And then
Speaker 6: there's the medical forensics. You know, the autopsy showed that
Speaker 6: the hyoid bone in Jeffrey Epstein's neck, which is this
Speaker 6: little U shaped bone sort of under your chin that
Speaker 6: keeps the tongue in place. It's pretty delicate, and it
Speaker 6: was broken. Now you probably say, well, you know the
Speaker 6: pressure of hanging that would probably break it. No, actually not.
Speaker 6: I've spoken with multiple experts, not only that, people who
Speaker 6: back to the corners in the past, medical examiners in
Speaker 6: the past, who say it's not normal. It is extremely
Speaker 6: rare for the hyoid bone to be broken in the
Speaker 6: kind of suicide that is alleged to have been the
Speaker 6: suicide Epstein carried out, which was he's on the floor,
Speaker 6: he ties his neck to the bed behind him, and
Speaker 6: then he leans forward literally as he's sitting on the floor.
Speaker 6: The pressure that that would give to the highoid bone
Speaker 6: isn't enough to break the hyoid bone. But again on
Speaker 6: the other side of the coin, is possible only because
Speaker 6: he was sixty six, and sometimes when you're a little
Speaker 6: bit older that higoid bones can break easier. But most
Speaker 6: of the experts I've spoken have said, no, not sixty six,
Speaker 6: more like eighty six, and that might have happened. But
Speaker 6: if you strangle someone, the pressure from behind on a
Speaker 6: lateral you know, typically a lateral kind of pull, that
Speaker 6: would break the hyoid bone in most cases, like most
Speaker 6: people who dive strangulation have their highoid bone broken. Hanging,
Speaker 6: though it's more of a vertical action. Typically when people
Speaker 6: hang themselves in the ceiling. Hyoid bone doesn't always break,
Speaker 6: but in this particular kind of hanging leaning forward, you know,
Speaker 6: the conventional wisdom is hell, no hyoid bone doesn't break,
Speaker 6: and Epstein's was broken.
Speaker 1: So really like a Godfather scene in which look at
Speaker 1: Brotzi is strangled from behind, that's how to break this
Speaker 1: throat bone is to put the pressure from behind, not
Speaker 1: leaning forward, sitting on the floor. Highly unlikely that throat
Speaker 1: bone would break in that way. Highly unlikely.
Speaker 6: Correct corrects, well, I know, get to throw things.
Speaker 1: Lastly, we have about two minutes of a minute and
Speaker 1: half remaining. Brian Coburger, he's going to be sentenced. He's
Speaker 1: going to get consecutive life sentences. And I read this
Speaker 1: story through a different reporter that said he burglarized numerous
Speaker 1: homes in order to get money to feed his heroin addiction.
Speaker 1: He was, and he wanted to have the perfect crime,
Speaker 1: and he wanted to do it in a way that
Speaker 1: he would not be discovered. Except for the knife sheath
Speaker 1: left behind with his DNA, he never would have been located.
Speaker 1: Can you tell me? Brian Coberger? And then went back
Speaker 1: in a second time after he murdered those four people
Speaker 1: to find that piece of evidence. Yeah, do you find
Speaker 1: any of that believable? That he was a cat burglar
Speaker 1: years before he killed those four people in Idaho?
Speaker 6: I haven't seen any evidence of carrying out the cat burglaries.
Speaker 6: That said, there is a lot to be said about
Speaker 6: somebody carrying out a killing that unbelievable for the very
Speaker 6: first time. Meaning, did he do any kind of practicing
Speaker 6: in advance, even if it were just tipping his like
Speaker 6: dipping his toe into the water of this kind of
Speaker 6: crime and doing a few cat burglars to see if
Speaker 6: he could get away with it. Yes, I could see
Speaker 6: that happening. There's also some incredible evidence about his strata information. Now,
Speaker 6: I'm not a big runner who tracks you know, my path,
Speaker 6: you know, as I go out running, But apparently he was,
Speaker 6: and some of his data show that he was doing
Speaker 6: very strange running patterns, very very late at night in
Speaker 6: the months leading up to the murders. So yeah, I
Speaker 6: mean I could see that he certainly was capable of
Speaker 6: doing casings. Did he do the break ins? Not sure,
Speaker 6: but I will say this, I don't believe for a
Speaker 6: minute he went into the house the morning after. I
Speaker 6: think he was there so quick at nine o'clock in
Speaker 6: the morning, he was there, and he was gone, and
Speaker 6: I think he simply drove to the location where he'd
Speaker 6: originally parked his car and checked to see if God,
Speaker 6: I hope that knife he's dropped outside the house and not,
Speaker 6: for the love of God, inside the house. And of course,
Speaker 6: as we all know, he was wrong, and it dropped
Speaker 6: inside the house, and there was no way he was
Speaker 6: going to go back inside at that bright daylight hour
Speaker 6: to try to cover his tracks.
Speaker 1: Ashley Vanfield, you're the best. There isn't this stuff but
Speaker 1: the high o old barn that the throat bone could
Speaker 1: be the key to prove that he was Luca Brotzi
Speaker 1: style murdered and not killing himself. Once again, Ashley Banfield,
Speaker 1: thanks for coming on the Bill Cunningham Show. We'll see
Speaker 1: what happens next to This case is more twist and
Speaker 1: turns than a jar of worms, so we'll see what happens.
Speaker 1: I am not You're the best, Thanky.
Speaker 6: He's always great talking to you. Bill. Thanks for having
Speaker 6: me on.
Speaker 1: God bless America. Coburger did coburger No, Jeffrey Epstein, that's
Speaker 1: one I to know. And did Trump send Brian Cobert
Speaker 1: a happy Birthday greeting before the Idaho murders. I don't
Speaker 1: know film at eleven. Bill cunning In The Grand American
Speaker 1: Live with you every Sunday Night. Sorry, Billy cunning In
Speaker 1: the Grand American, thanks for listening tonight on the six
Speaker 1: month anniversary of the election of Donald Trump, the most
Speaker 1: consequential election in my lifetime. Normally, you have two qualified
Speaker 1: candidates running and the more qualified wins. In this case,
Speaker 1: you would have qualified Lincoln Jefferson Washington, Teddy Roosevelt Reagan
Speaker 1: type candidate against A Putts. Unfortunately, the American people said,
Speaker 1: we can't take it anymore. We want to go with
Speaker 1: Donald Trump. And since that moment, we've had massive increases
Speaker 1: in tariff revenue. We had a twenty seven billion dollar
Speaker 1: surplus in June according to Department of Treasury, instead of
Speaker 1: a huge deficit. We had passage of one big, beautiful
Speaker 1: bill that dealt with tips, no tips on overtime or
Speaker 1: no tips on Social Security and great stuff that now
Speaker 1: the Democrats are claiming credit for no tax on tips.
Speaker 1: We've had lower inflation, we've had reduced trade deficits, we've
Speaker 1: had lucrative trade deals. We've had significant peace agreements. We've
Speaker 1: had military surpassing recruitment goals. We've had a peace breaking
Speaker 1: out between India and Pakistan, Congo and Rwanda, Patriot missiles
Speaker 1: being delivered to the Ukraine, cease fire, and so much more.
Speaker 1: It goes on and on and on, And it all
Speaker 1: began with the trust the American people had, the trust
Speaker 1: of people like you and I to put Donald Trump
Speaker 1: in charge instead of Kamala Harris, for God's sakes, that
Speaker 1: would have been a complete joke. But also I anticipate
Speaker 1: in the next several months that the comments of Tulci Gabbert,
Speaker 1: the Director of National Intelligence, will become true, that the
Speaker 1: Holy Cabal, the meetings held in December and January of
Speaker 1: twenty sixteen and twenty seventeen to launch conspiracy, a seditious
Speaker 1: conspiracy against Donald Trump, will become truthful and known that
Speaker 1: Barack Hussain, Obama and Clapper and Brennan and Comy and
Speaker 1: Yates and Lynch launched a conspiracy to thwart the will
Speaker 1: of the American people and to create a false narrative,
Speaker 1: a lie that somehow the Russians were involved in the
Speaker 1: twenty sixteen election and the twenty twenty Hunter Biden Laptok
Speaker 1: top and that somehow we're gonna have a situation where
Speaker 1: a Russian asset is going to be in the Oval Office.
Speaker 1: That Russian assets turned out to be an American hero
Speaker 1: and his name is Donald Trump. But if you have time,
Speaker 1: take a look at what Tulsea Ebers said this morning
Speaker 1: with Maria debartem Romo on Fox and so much more.
Speaker 1: But congratulations Donald Trump. The first six months had been fabulous.
Speaker 1: I think the next six months might be even better,
Speaker 1: including the recisions of NPR and PBS, Bill Cunning and
Speaker 1: the Great American with you every Sunday night.