WEBVTT 1 00:00:01.120 --> 00:00:05.000 You're listening to Bigfoot Society podcasts hosted by our captain 2 00:00:05.120 --> 00:00:10.640 Jeremiah Byron, where it's all Bigfoot, all the time. Have 3 00:00:10.759 --> 00:00:14.039 you ever had the urge to do more, to be more? 4 00:00:14.599 --> 00:00:18.320 Now you can by joining Bigfoot Society on the Patreon 5 00:00:19.160 --> 00:00:22.519 get out free episodes and even number only episodes, take 6 00:00:22.559 --> 00:00:26.359 part in movie Night and even live video chats, interact 7 00:00:26.399 --> 00:00:29.920 behind the scenes with Jeremiah and other Patreon members like me, 8 00:00:30.199 --> 00:00:34.759 play it the powerful podcast goes on, and you may 9 00:00:34.799 --> 00:00:39.479 contribute a verse in our Patreon community car padm Seize 10 00:00:39.479 --> 00:00:42.880 the day, Bigfooters and make your lives extraordinary. 11 00:00:43.560 --> 00:00:46.240 Welcome to big for Society. 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But Dave, 30 00:01:43.640 --> 00:01:44.560 welcome to the show. 31 00:01:46.040 --> 00:01:50.599 Thanks, jeremar. I appreciate you having me on this. 32 00:01:50.719 --> 00:01:52.879 Sounds there's going to be a lot of really interesting 33 00:01:53.280 --> 00:01:55.959 things that are shared, but I'd say let's get right 34 00:01:56.000 --> 00:01:58.920 into it. Feel free to share anything about yourself that 35 00:01:59.000 --> 00:02:02.319 you might need listeners to know. Where you're at and 36 00:02:02.359 --> 00:02:05.400 how you got involved with this whole wild bigfoot thing. 37 00:02:05.439 --> 00:02:07.799 To begin with sounds good. I guess I'll start at 38 00:02:07.799 --> 00:02:11.159 the very beginning. I lived just outside of Pittsburgh and 39 00:02:11.479 --> 00:02:14.840 mon Hall. It's about ten miles outside of Pittsburgh, And 40 00:02:15.719 --> 00:02:18.400 to be honest with you, I think that the very 41 00:02:18.439 --> 00:02:22.000 beginning was pretty much the day I was born. Whether 42 00:02:22.000 --> 00:02:25.400 it be coincidence or whatnot, but I believe that the 43 00:02:25.520 --> 00:02:29.159 Patterson Gimlin film is probably about the best evidence there 44 00:02:29.240 --> 00:02:33.280 is for Bigfoot. And I was born on when the 45 00:02:33.280 --> 00:02:36.560 film was made ten, twenty sixty seven, and growing up 46 00:02:36.599 --> 00:02:39.039 I always I know, like a lot of viewers mentioned 47 00:02:39.039 --> 00:02:41.120 that I was always interested in the big Foot thing 48 00:02:41.199 --> 00:02:43.599 growing up in the seventies and watched I was always 49 00:02:43.599 --> 00:02:46.400 anxious to watch the in Search of and the Bigfoot 50 00:02:46.680 --> 00:02:51.439 documentaries and before internet and all that now, the six 51 00:02:51.479 --> 00:02:54.120 Million Dollar Man movie or show that was on in 52 00:02:54.159 --> 00:02:56.439 the back in the seventies, like they had the big 53 00:02:56.439 --> 00:02:58.520 Foot episode with that. I've heard people mention that, and 54 00:02:58.560 --> 00:03:01.240 that was like my favorite six I just always seemed 55 00:03:01.280 --> 00:03:04.840 to be connected to it. So I was always interested 56 00:03:04.879 --> 00:03:08.759 in it, and I didn't have any experiences till I 57 00:03:08.800 --> 00:03:14.479 believe it was nineteen eighty seven, and for whatever reason, 58 00:03:14.560 --> 00:03:18.400 that summer that year, there was a lot of sightings 59 00:03:18.439 --> 00:03:21.759 in the Pittsburgh area. And this is before the internet, 60 00:03:21.840 --> 00:03:26.439 the cell phones and everything, and I remember that like 61 00:03:26.479 --> 00:03:29.439 the local news channels they had in the newspapers they had, 62 00:03:29.520 --> 00:03:31.680 there was a lot of reports, so they actually had 63 00:03:31.759 --> 00:03:34.360 articles and they had like artists sketches of what people 64 00:03:34.360 --> 00:03:37.080 saw in the paper and things on the news about it, 65 00:03:37.199 --> 00:03:39.400 and there's just a lot of sightings. I believe it 66 00:03:39.439 --> 00:03:43.199 was eighty seven, But in that year, I believe it 67 00:03:43.240 --> 00:03:46.560 was in the spring, so the snow was melting, and 68 00:03:46.639 --> 00:03:49.879 we had a cabin up and on the Laurel Ridge, 69 00:03:49.919 --> 00:03:53.560 it runs parallel to Chestnut Ridge. It's a little southeast 70 00:03:53.599 --> 00:03:58.560 of Pittsburgh, about fifty miles away, and we had a 71 00:03:58.560 --> 00:04:01.479 cabin right next to my buddies. The cabins were situated 72 00:04:01.520 --> 00:04:04.080 on basically a hillside that went on a crest of 73 00:04:04.120 --> 00:04:07.439 the ridge and then went into a deep drainage behind that. 74 00:04:08.400 --> 00:04:10.520 So when he turned up the driveway, my buddy's cabin 75 00:04:10.599 --> 00:04:15.000 was on the left, and then our cabin was up 76 00:04:15.000 --> 00:04:16.959 a little bit into the right, so cat a corner 77 00:04:17.079 --> 00:04:19.800 to it, and straight across from his cabin and down 78 00:04:19.839 --> 00:04:22.959 from our cabin was like a one acre stand of 79 00:04:23.079 --> 00:04:26.839 pretty thick pine trees. So that spring, I I believe 80 00:04:26.839 --> 00:04:29.879 it was eighty seven. And in that spring, when the 81 00:04:29.879 --> 00:04:32.920 snow is mellowing, there was patches of snow, The ground 82 00:04:32.959 --> 00:04:37.480 was soft, it was smelled off, and the one weekend 83 00:04:37.800 --> 00:04:42.560 there were footprints that came from behind our cabin, crossed 84 00:04:42.560 --> 00:04:46.480 the driveway through the backyard of my buddy's place, and 85 00:04:47.040 --> 00:04:49.639 he saw footprints in the snow where there's patches of snow, 86 00:04:49.720 --> 00:04:51.959 then where there wasn't snow, you can see the deep 87 00:04:51.959 --> 00:04:56.639 impressions in the soft ground of the footprints. The footprints 88 00:04:56.680 --> 00:04:59.560 went back behind his place and they had an ing 89 00:04:59.600 --> 00:05:03.240 ground pool behind their cabin, and there was like a 90 00:05:03.279 --> 00:05:06.879 four foot cyclone chain link fence around the pool area, 91 00:05:07.519 --> 00:05:12.199 and you followed the footprints and they were on shrides, obviously, 92 00:05:12.319 --> 00:05:13.839 and then when you got to the corner of the 93 00:05:13.839 --> 00:05:16.000 pool area, so if you're looking at the pool, was 94 00:05:16.040 --> 00:05:18.720 like the back right corner of the pool area, closest 95 00:05:18.759 --> 00:05:22.199 to the yard. The footprints went back and then there 96 00:05:22.240 --> 00:05:24.240 was snow back because at that time it was shaded, 97 00:05:24.920 --> 00:05:28.920 and there was a footprint outside the chain length fence. 98 00:05:29.079 --> 00:05:32.160 Then there was a footprint inside the chain link fence 99 00:05:32.199 --> 00:05:36.160 inside the pool area, and a footprint back outside the 100 00:05:36.240 --> 00:05:39.279 chain link fence. So it's made one footstep inside the 101 00:05:39.279 --> 00:05:41.920 pool area back in the back corner, but basically it 102 00:05:41.920 --> 00:05:45.759 almost didn't break stride and walked right over the four 103 00:05:45.800 --> 00:05:49.040 foot fence like it wasn't even there. So that was 104 00:05:49.079 --> 00:05:54.360 our first kind of inclination that hey, maybe Bigfoot Israel. 105 00:05:54.560 --> 00:05:57.360 And that was in I believe, like I said, March, 106 00:05:57.439 --> 00:06:01.160 in the spring when the snow is melting. And then 107 00:06:01.480 --> 00:06:04.120 so later that year, I believe it was in June. 108 00:06:04.319 --> 00:06:06.639 Me and my buddy, they had a pretty big driveway, 109 00:06:06.759 --> 00:06:10.000 so they had a basketball hoop in the in the driveway. 110 00:06:10.839 --> 00:06:13.199 So one night, I think it was June, we were 111 00:06:13.199 --> 00:06:15.439 out with my girlfriend at the time. There's me and 112 00:06:15.480 --> 00:06:18.079 my buddy, my girlfriend and we're playing a game of 113 00:06:18.120 --> 00:06:21.720 horse shooting basketball. And it was about eleven o'clock at 114 00:06:21.800 --> 00:06:24.079 night or so, and it was a really calm night, 115 00:06:24.360 --> 00:06:29.720 quiet and we got this odor, this pungent odor. It 116 00:06:30.000 --> 00:06:34.639 it's unforgettable. It's almost undescribable. But if I had to 117 00:06:34.680 --> 00:06:40.720 describe it, I would describe it as probably like fifty 118 00:06:41.839 --> 00:06:45.360 like rotting flesh like a deer, croc carcass rotting in 119 00:06:45.399 --> 00:06:50.000 the august heat. And maybe forty like a garbage smell, 120 00:06:50.199 --> 00:06:52.279 just like a rotting garbage smell, maybe like a ten 121 00:06:52.319 --> 00:06:57.360 percent like of like a skunky smell. And we smelled 122 00:06:57.360 --> 00:06:59.639 it and it and like I said, there was no wind, 123 00:06:59.639 --> 00:07:02.199 but there was so his it was coming from back 124 00:07:02.240 --> 00:07:04.399 behind us. So it was like the thermals were was 125 00:07:04.399 --> 00:07:06.560 getting cooler at night, and you could just get a 126 00:07:06.560 --> 00:07:08.680 whiff of it now, and then it was really punging. 127 00:07:08.759 --> 00:07:10.879 It like coded the back of your throat. It was 128 00:07:10.920 --> 00:07:13.079 in your mouth, up your nose, like almost burned your nose. 129 00:07:13.839 --> 00:07:16.000 So if I came and went, then it went away. 130 00:07:16.680 --> 00:07:19.079 So we were shooting basketball for a little while longer, 131 00:07:19.240 --> 00:07:22.160 and it was a little later, so maybe midnight, twelve thirty, 132 00:07:22.879 --> 00:07:24.800 and we weren't even shooting basketball, and we were sitting 133 00:07:24.800 --> 00:07:27.879 on the wall and we're just sitting there talking quietly, 134 00:07:28.759 --> 00:07:33.040 and we smelled the same smell again, and so we 135 00:07:33.199 --> 00:07:36.279 jokingly said, they say Bigfoot has a bad odor. Yeah, 136 00:07:36.279 --> 00:07:40.120 it's probably Bigfoot. And havn't seen them tracks a few 137 00:07:40.160 --> 00:07:43.319 months earlier, kind of saying, oh, maybe it's Bigfoot. So 138 00:07:43.360 --> 00:07:45.920 we're sitting there joking about it. But now the smell 139 00:07:46.000 --> 00:07:49.279 wasn't going away. This lasted maybe fifteen minutes or so, 140 00:07:50.319 --> 00:07:54.839 and we're sitting there quietly and we heard footsteps coming 141 00:07:55.759 --> 00:07:58.920 and they came from back behind my cabin and they 142 00:07:58.959 --> 00:08:01.519 went into that stand up hines that was across from 143 00:08:01.560 --> 00:08:03.920 where we were playing basketball and down from my cabin. 144 00:08:03.959 --> 00:08:06.279 It's like a one acre stand of pines, and you 145 00:08:06.279 --> 00:08:10.399 can hear and feel each footfall coming through those pines. 146 00:08:11.040 --> 00:08:13.399 And it's an older stand of pines, so there's probably 147 00:08:13.439 --> 00:08:16.600 a foot or two of pine quills laying on the ground. 148 00:08:16.600 --> 00:08:19.519 There's no leaves or it's all pine quills, but you 149 00:08:19.560 --> 00:08:23.319 can fill and hear each footfall. And it was just 150 00:08:23.360 --> 00:08:26.839 like boom, a steady gate right through those pines and 151 00:08:26.879 --> 00:08:29.600 it went diagonally through the pines came out at the 152 00:08:29.600 --> 00:08:33.879 bottom of the driveway. You heard each foot fall across 153 00:08:33.919 --> 00:08:39.519 the driveway, then cross the road, and below the cabin 154 00:08:39.799 --> 00:08:42.519 was three small ponds, so it went into the center 155 00:08:42.600 --> 00:08:47.559 pond and we heard splashing around, slashing around in the lake, 156 00:08:48.000 --> 00:08:49.960 and we were at this point, we're scared. We're standing 157 00:08:50.000 --> 00:08:52.399 by the the corner of the door, ready to run 158 00:08:52.399 --> 00:08:54.679 in the cabin because you could feel the power in 159 00:08:54.720 --> 00:08:56.559 the footsteps and you can fill it in your chest, 160 00:08:57.960 --> 00:09:01.159 the massiveness of this thing. We were standing by the 161 00:09:01.200 --> 00:09:04.120 door and we're listening to this thing in the lake 162 00:09:04.320 --> 00:09:07.919 and it's slashing around and I didn't know what it 163 00:09:07.960 --> 00:09:10.840 was doing. We can hear just splashing, slashing, whatever it 164 00:09:10.879 --> 00:09:12.720 was doing in there. At that time, we thought it 165 00:09:12.799 --> 00:09:16.879 was who know, its chasing fish whatever. We didn't know 166 00:09:16.879 --> 00:09:19.039 what it could be. It wasn't no bare It was 167 00:09:19.279 --> 00:09:21.919 by pete. It was two footsteps coming to those pines, 168 00:09:22.720 --> 00:09:25.000 and we listened to it for a while. I got 169 00:09:25.000 --> 00:09:27.320 a rock. I ran out into the driveway and I 170 00:09:27.360 --> 00:09:29.960 threw a rock down over the hill towards the road, 171 00:09:30.519 --> 00:09:33.200 and the rock didn't make it to the lake, but 172 00:09:33.240 --> 00:09:34.840 it made it down by the road. And when the 173 00:09:34.919 --> 00:09:39.600 rocket down near the road, it got that quiet and 174 00:09:39.799 --> 00:09:43.240 there was nothing. It was just silence. So we stood 175 00:09:43.240 --> 00:09:45.600 by the door to cabin for a while and then 176 00:09:45.720 --> 00:09:47.840 we waited. Didn't hear nothing. So I went out and 177 00:09:47.840 --> 00:09:50.039 I threw another rock down there. When I threw the 178 00:09:50.080 --> 00:09:53.840 second rock, it tore out of there. It came out 179 00:09:53.879 --> 00:09:56.000 of the lake and it basically took the exact same 180 00:09:56.039 --> 00:09:59.000 path that it took down to the lake. It ran 181 00:09:59.240 --> 00:10:01.960 across the road, but it wasn't walking. It was a 182 00:10:02.039 --> 00:10:06.120 much quicker pace and come up through the pines back 183 00:10:06.159 --> 00:10:10.159 behind my cabin and went into the drainage behind our cabin. 184 00:10:11.120 --> 00:10:15.919 And that was pretty much for that. But learning I'm 185 00:10:15.919 --> 00:10:18.679 going to jump around a little bit because obviously with 186 00:10:18.759 --> 00:10:20.960 the internet, and I'll get into what happened to me 187 00:10:21.039 --> 00:10:25.120 recently over the past three years or so, and just 188 00:10:25.159 --> 00:10:28.679 to jump around not to forget this and what I 189 00:10:28.799 --> 00:10:31.600 learned now and what I think now and don't understand 190 00:10:31.879 --> 00:10:36.600 is so this thing came through that stand of pines, 191 00:10:37.440 --> 00:10:41.320 and it's a thick stand of pines. I'm five nine, 192 00:10:41.360 --> 00:10:44.320 two hundred pounds, and I couldn't walk with a steady 193 00:10:44.360 --> 00:10:47.960 gate through those pines without ducking and weaving between trees 194 00:10:48.279 --> 00:10:53.039 or branches or whatnot. And this thing came through there 195 00:10:54.240 --> 00:10:56.440 like it was walking across an open fields. The trees 196 00:10:56.440 --> 00:10:59.639 weren't even there, and it was just a steady footprints 197 00:10:59.639 --> 00:11:03.600 boom coming through those pines, no tree breaks, no leaves, 198 00:11:03.759 --> 00:11:06.399 there's no leaves in there, but no branches breaking, just 199 00:11:06.600 --> 00:11:10.120 stay footsteps all the way through those pines. And I 200 00:11:10.240 --> 00:11:13.159 just if this didn't see it, but say it was 201 00:11:13.240 --> 00:11:15.559 seven eight foot tall and eight hundred pounds, there's no 202 00:11:15.600 --> 00:11:17.279 way in the world this thing can walk through there 203 00:11:17.279 --> 00:11:22.080 at a steady gate without moving trees, breaking trees. So 204 00:11:22.279 --> 00:11:24.720 I just I didn't even really think about that until 205 00:11:24.720 --> 00:11:28.320 this year and how that could be. And so that 206 00:11:28.440 --> 00:11:32.000 was it for that. And then later that year in 207 00:11:32.039 --> 00:11:36.279 the fall, me and my buddy we were out riding 208 00:11:36.320 --> 00:11:39.399 quads and there was a we were on a sol 209 00:11:39.519 --> 00:11:42.720 railroad track, but it's a bike trail now, and we 210 00:11:42.720 --> 00:11:45.120 were actually out near where all a lot of my 211 00:11:45.200 --> 00:11:48.799 current experiences are going on. And we were riding and 212 00:11:48.840 --> 00:11:52.200 we were along a creek and it was a thick 213 00:11:52.240 --> 00:11:53.879 part of the creek where there's a lot of mountain 214 00:11:53.960 --> 00:11:57.200 Laurel and rhododendron died in the creek bottom, and it 215 00:11:57.200 --> 00:11:59.799 gets really thick down in there. And we were going 216 00:11:59.799 --> 00:12:02.399 down the quad path and I was out front and 217 00:12:02.720 --> 00:12:05.879 my buddy was behind me, and we just hit a 218 00:12:05.919 --> 00:12:09.799 patch where I smelled that exact same smell again that 219 00:12:09.879 --> 00:12:14.279 we smelled that night we were shooting basketball. And like 220 00:12:14.320 --> 00:12:16.279 I said, it's an unmistakable smell. It's one of a 221 00:12:16.360 --> 00:12:19.200 kind of unique smell. And so I just kept going. 222 00:12:19.240 --> 00:12:22.120 I went another couple of miles and I pulled over 223 00:12:22.559 --> 00:12:24.639 just to put some distance between us and the smell, 224 00:12:25.480 --> 00:12:27.279 and my buddy pulled over behind me, and he took 225 00:12:27.320 --> 00:12:28.919 his helmet off and he came up to me. He said, 226 00:12:28.960 --> 00:12:31.559 you smelled it, didn't you. I was like, yeah, that's 227 00:12:31.559 --> 00:12:33.360 what I did, I says, and it's like I said, 228 00:12:33.360 --> 00:12:36.519 it's a unique smell. And that was pretty much it 229 00:12:36.799 --> 00:12:41.200 for the eighties and then so then I pretty much 230 00:12:41.440 --> 00:12:46.039 didn't have anything for thirty three years or so until 231 00:12:46.840 --> 00:12:50.720 you know what today's Halloween actually, So it was Halloween 232 00:12:51.399 --> 00:12:54.519 twenty twenty, so four years ago, and so there was 233 00:12:54.559 --> 00:12:57.120 a thirty three year gap there where I had some 234 00:12:57.159 --> 00:12:59.840 things happen. Looking back back on it, maybe a couple 235 00:13:00.000 --> 00:13:03.679 times throughout the thirty three years that maybe wasn't a bear, 236 00:13:03.759 --> 00:13:07.600 maybe it was something else. It's pretty much nothing, and 237 00:13:07.639 --> 00:13:12.799 then I'll get into the twenty twenty thing on Halloween 238 00:13:12.919 --> 00:13:16.440 that's pretty much changed everything for me and my son, 239 00:13:16.440 --> 00:13:22.720 and my son was with me. So Halloween twenty twenty, me, 240 00:13:23.080 --> 00:13:27.159 my son and I we were near Forbes State Forest 241 00:13:27.720 --> 00:13:33.679 down in southeast or yeah, little south. It's probably seventy 242 00:13:33.720 --> 00:13:37.399 miles i'd say, southeast of Pittsburgh or so, and we 243 00:13:37.399 --> 00:13:39.600 were down there hunting and there's some game lands down 244 00:13:39.679 --> 00:13:44.360 that way, and we were hunting deer and I think 245 00:13:44.399 --> 00:13:49.159 it was archery bear also in the morning, and then 246 00:13:49.159 --> 00:13:52.000 we hunted peasant in the afternoon. Had nothing to happen 247 00:13:52.039 --> 00:13:55.159 in the morning. Hunted pheasant in the afternoon and we 248 00:13:55.240 --> 00:13:58.080 got I think as my son limited out, so he 249 00:13:58.120 --> 00:14:01.159 got two birds and I got one. And so for 250 00:14:01.240 --> 00:14:03.720 the evening we were going hunting, but in a different 251 00:14:03.759 --> 00:14:07.519 spot than we hunted, and we went in and we hunted. 252 00:14:07.639 --> 00:14:10.360 It was a beautiful day. It was actually warm for Halloween, 253 00:14:10.639 --> 00:14:14.159 but it was a calm, sunny day, not a cloud 254 00:14:14.159 --> 00:14:17.759 in the sky. And it was actually also the first 255 00:14:17.759 --> 00:14:22.720 time there was a full moon on Halloween in decades. 256 00:14:22.799 --> 00:14:24.440 I don't know the exact number, but it was a 257 00:14:24.519 --> 00:14:27.799 long time since there's been a full moon on Halloween. 258 00:14:28.480 --> 00:14:47.480 Big for society. Who will be right back after these messages, We. 259 00:14:47.480 --> 00:14:51.480 Went hunting and I put my son, he was at 260 00:14:51.480 --> 00:14:55.279 the time thirteen fourteen something like that. I put him 261 00:14:55.279 --> 00:14:59.360 in a spot and near a capped off gas well 262 00:15:00.000 --> 00:15:03.039 where they capped it off and they planted some grasses 263 00:15:03.120 --> 00:15:06.519 and clover, and the deer were coming there in the evening. 264 00:15:06.600 --> 00:15:09.679 So I put him there and I wasn't far from 265 00:15:09.759 --> 00:15:12.320 because he was still young, and it was maybe three 266 00:15:12.399 --> 00:15:16.519 hundred yards passed him up the ridge further and so 267 00:15:16.559 --> 00:15:20.000 we hunted until dark, and we had radios, so my 268 00:15:20.080 --> 00:15:23.399 son came on the radio and said he had three 269 00:15:23.799 --> 00:15:27.159 dough in front of him in the field. So we 270 00:15:27.200 --> 00:15:29.519 gave it some time, but they weren't moving off air 271 00:15:29.600 --> 00:15:31.720 feet and I told my son and he was just 272 00:15:31.759 --> 00:15:35.159 sitting on the hillside, camouflaged and covered up with some 273 00:15:35.720 --> 00:15:39.799 mountain laurel, and didn't want him to give up his spot, 274 00:15:39.919 --> 00:15:42.240 and showed the deer where he was. So I told 275 00:15:42.279 --> 00:15:45.240 him just to sit tight, and I walked down the path. 276 00:15:45.840 --> 00:15:48.200 Let me spook the deer walking down the path. It's 277 00:15:48.200 --> 00:15:51.360 more natural, so they don't, you know, get educated as 278 00:15:51.360 --> 00:15:54.080 to where he was sitting. So I did that, walked 279 00:15:54.120 --> 00:15:57.519 down the path, spooked the deer. Son come down to 280 00:15:57.559 --> 00:15:59.519 me and we talked a little bit, and like I said, 281 00:15:59.679 --> 00:16:03.559 it was a beautiful probably forty five fifty degree night, 282 00:16:03.720 --> 00:16:07.039 and the moon was just starting to come up, but 283 00:16:07.080 --> 00:16:10.000 the sun was down, so it was pretty much dark 284 00:16:10.080 --> 00:16:12.679 at this point. We had about a mile walk out 285 00:16:12.759 --> 00:16:17.080 of the woods, so we started walking out of the woods. 286 00:16:17.279 --> 00:16:21.279 It was dead quiet and talking on the way out, 287 00:16:21.519 --> 00:16:23.480 and didn't even need slash lights because the moon was 288 00:16:24.000 --> 00:16:26.559 just coming up, but it was just lighting the tops 289 00:16:26.600 --> 00:16:29.159 of the tree tops up. It was a huge I 290 00:16:29.200 --> 00:16:30.720 think it was the harvest moon. Maybe it was the 291 00:16:30.720 --> 00:16:33.919 harvest moon. It's a big full moon, and we're working 292 00:16:33.960 --> 00:16:37.159 our way out and so it probably took us a 293 00:16:37.200 --> 00:16:40.639 good twenty minutes or so to walk out, so it's 294 00:16:40.639 --> 00:16:43.159 well after dark when we get back to the truck. 295 00:16:43.759 --> 00:16:46.440 As we approached the truck, like just we were maybe 296 00:16:46.440 --> 00:16:50.399 twenty yards in the truck, and where the truck was parked, 297 00:16:50.399 --> 00:16:53.559 it's on a dirt road and you can maybe fit 298 00:16:53.639 --> 00:16:56.320 two trucks where we were parked. And then in the 299 00:16:56.320 --> 00:16:59.759 bottom of the draw there's a little bigger parking area, 300 00:17:00.039 --> 00:17:03.600 probably fit maybe five or six trucks down there. And 301 00:17:03.759 --> 00:17:06.079 coming from that area in the bottom of the draw, 302 00:17:06.599 --> 00:17:12.359 as we approached the truck, there was a scream. And 303 00:17:12.480 --> 00:17:14.839 I've heard this said before, but that's what it sounds like. 304 00:17:14.880 --> 00:17:19.039 It sounds like a woman being murdered, just this hellacious, 305 00:17:19.759 --> 00:17:23.480 blood curdling scream. And it did it three or four times, 306 00:17:23.720 --> 00:17:30.160 and it just puts you into instinct adrenaline mode. And 307 00:17:30.200 --> 00:17:33.279 my son, yeah, his name was Mark, so I'll just 308 00:17:33.519 --> 00:17:36.279 referred to him as more A's Mark. And he said, 309 00:17:36.279 --> 00:17:39.960 what was that? And I was like, I don't know. 310 00:17:40.160 --> 00:17:44.279 I says, maybe an isle because you can tell it wasn't. 311 00:17:44.480 --> 00:17:45.960 It didn't seem like it was on the ground. It 312 00:17:46.000 --> 00:17:48.839 was elevated, and it wasn't that far. It was maybe 313 00:17:49.920 --> 00:17:53.279 eighty yards away, I'd say. And so it did it 314 00:17:53.279 --> 00:17:56.519 three or four times. We're freaked out by that. And 315 00:17:57.319 --> 00:18:00.519 directly across from where the scream came from, I hear 316 00:18:01.000 --> 00:18:05.279 these big tree branches getting broken, and just so it 317 00:18:05.359 --> 00:18:07.559 sounded like a bulldozer starting to go through the woods. 318 00:18:08.480 --> 00:18:11.680 And at that time, this is an area where we 319 00:18:11.720 --> 00:18:14.799 bear hunt and there was a big bear in the area. 320 00:18:15.519 --> 00:18:18.839 It was the Game Commission knew about it, and we 321 00:18:18.920 --> 00:18:21.480 actually talked to them. They said it had a collar 322 00:18:21.559 --> 00:18:24.240 on it, and they obviously they weigh them and they 323 00:18:24.640 --> 00:18:27.359 checked them and put callers on them, so they knew 324 00:18:27.359 --> 00:18:28.839 it was six hundred plus pile. So it was a 325 00:18:28.839 --> 00:18:31.880 pretty good sized bear, and we knew it was in 326 00:18:31.920 --> 00:18:35.240 the area. And I told my sign Mark, I says, 327 00:18:35.799 --> 00:18:38.160 I said, I bet you that's that bear, and it's 328 00:18:38.160 --> 00:18:40.599 getting ready across the road. So I pulled my light 329 00:18:40.640 --> 00:18:43.359 out and I shined it down the road and hoping 330 00:18:43.440 --> 00:18:46.720 to get a glimpse of acrossing the road. And then 331 00:18:47.039 --> 00:18:50.079 once I shined the light down the road where the 332 00:18:50.400 --> 00:18:53.920 stick brakes were coming from. It got real quiet, and 333 00:18:53.960 --> 00:18:57.880 then I don't know, it's maybe a minute went by, 334 00:18:58.559 --> 00:19:02.319 and then slowly you can hear more sticks breaking in it, 335 00:19:02.359 --> 00:19:06.000 and it was working its way back down the valley, 336 00:19:07.119 --> 00:19:09.759 and it just we listened to it for a while. 337 00:19:09.880 --> 00:19:12.680 I turned the light off, and like, at this point, 338 00:19:12.759 --> 00:19:16.279 I'm not thinking it's been thirty three years since anything 339 00:19:16.319 --> 00:19:19.240 Bigfoot related had happened to me, So at this point 340 00:19:19.240 --> 00:19:22.519 I'm thinking that there was possibly an isle. It screeched 341 00:19:22.880 --> 00:19:28.119 or screamed. I've never heard owls and hawks, even crows, foxes, coyotes. 342 00:19:28.599 --> 00:19:29.920 I've heard a lot of strain and stuff in the 343 00:19:29.960 --> 00:19:33.319 woods at life, and nothing quite like this woman screaming thing. 344 00:19:34.240 --> 00:19:36.319 And so that kind of threw me for a loop. 345 00:19:36.759 --> 00:19:39.319 And then as things working its way down the valley, 346 00:19:39.920 --> 00:19:43.279 just it sounded like a bulldozer going down, just big 347 00:19:43.519 --> 00:19:47.480 trees being pushed over, big trees snapping, and I just 348 00:19:47.519 --> 00:19:50.200 couldn't explain what that was. And other than the bear 349 00:19:50.839 --> 00:19:53.759 and it went down the valley ways and then it 350 00:19:53.759 --> 00:19:57.559 got quiet. We didn't really think too much other than that, 351 00:19:58.359 --> 00:20:01.599 and I opened the tailgate of the truck and we 352 00:20:01.640 --> 00:20:05.359 started taking our gear off and putting stuff away, and 353 00:20:05.359 --> 00:20:07.160 I said, we're throwing stuff in the back of the truck. 354 00:20:07.200 --> 00:20:09.200 And we're sitting there and we're talking a little bit, 355 00:20:09.279 --> 00:20:12.839 and I maybe ten minutes goes by and we both 356 00:20:12.839 --> 00:20:18.920 had crossbows. So my son asked me. He says, I 357 00:20:19.079 --> 00:20:22.039 discharged the crossbows. I was like, we have a discharged 358 00:20:22.079 --> 00:20:28.319 target to discharge them, and sure, go ahead. So he 359 00:20:28.400 --> 00:20:31.160 put the target out and like I said, the moon's 360 00:20:31.200 --> 00:20:33.960 coming up. It's almost like daylight. So I held the 361 00:20:34.799 --> 00:20:38.960 light on the discharge target so he can shoot the crossbow. 362 00:20:39.440 --> 00:20:43.400 And like I said, it was dead, calm, no wind, 363 00:20:44.480 --> 00:20:49.720 just no no cicadas, no nothing, no crickets, dead, calm, 364 00:20:49.880 --> 00:20:54.200 no noise to speak of it all. So he discharged 365 00:20:54.200 --> 00:20:56.319 the crossbow and they make a pretty good noise when 366 00:20:56.359 --> 00:21:01.000 he was discharging, and it echoed, you know, it almost 367 00:21:01.000 --> 00:21:02.599 as quiet as it all. It's not like a gun 368 00:21:02.640 --> 00:21:06.680 going off, and it echoed across the valley. And so 369 00:21:06.920 --> 00:21:08.920 he walks back over to the truck and it wasn't 370 00:21:09.279 --> 00:21:14.400 ten seconds later and there was three knocks down in 371 00:21:14.440 --> 00:21:19.119 the valley where we heard all this stick breaking and 372 00:21:19.240 --> 00:21:23.000 trees breaking down towards where it was headed, and we 373 00:21:23.039 --> 00:21:25.559 heard three knocks, and at this point never heard wood 374 00:21:25.599 --> 00:21:29.359 knocks before, and only I even never even heard these 375 00:21:29.400 --> 00:21:33.240 things other than the TV show. And you know that 376 00:21:33.359 --> 00:21:35.799 when the kids were little, they watched the TV show. 377 00:21:36.640 --> 00:21:38.720 And I know just one I'm talking about. I don't 378 00:21:38.759 --> 00:21:43.279 really care to promote their stuff because I don't agree 379 00:21:43.279 --> 00:21:46.720 with what they stand for. But so anyways, my son 380 00:21:46.759 --> 00:21:49.359 ad he says there were three of them. Was that 381 00:21:50.240 --> 00:21:53.480 wood knocks? I was like, I don't know. And so 382 00:21:53.759 --> 00:21:57.920 right after that, there was a So there's a creek 383 00:21:57.960 --> 00:22:02.880 that goes down there and Downwardy's noises came from it. 384 00:22:02.880 --> 00:22:06.839 It's just like a shallow creek. And we heard a 385 00:22:06.920 --> 00:22:09.960 rock thrown in the creek, and you can hear almost 386 00:22:09.960 --> 00:22:12.720 like a river rock, a five pound river rock thrown 387 00:22:12.799 --> 00:22:15.599 up the creek, and you can hear a clock on 388 00:22:15.640 --> 00:22:18.960 the rocks and splashing the water. And then come the rest. 389 00:22:20.079 --> 00:22:23.039 And so now I'm thinking there's other hunters coming up 390 00:22:23.079 --> 00:22:25.759 the valley the or down or screwing around, beating on 391 00:22:25.839 --> 00:22:28.759 trees or throwing rocks or whatever. So that's why I 392 00:22:28.759 --> 00:22:31.359 told them, because, like I said, Bigfoot isn't even on 393 00:22:31.440 --> 00:22:33.720 my mind at this point. I thought i'd heard maybe 394 00:22:33.720 --> 00:22:37.880 an isle and a bear, and now we're hearing hunters 395 00:22:37.920 --> 00:22:41.400 coming up the valley, and so didn't he Bigfoot is 396 00:22:41.400 --> 00:22:45.039 the unity in my mind, and so we're getting things 397 00:22:45.079 --> 00:22:51.359 together and he goes to discharge the other crossbow and 398 00:22:51.400 --> 00:22:55.240 he shoots it. The same exact thing happens. There's three 399 00:22:55.240 --> 00:22:57.640 wood knocks, maybe a ten second break, and then there's 400 00:22:57.640 --> 00:22:59.519 a rock thrown up the creek same way. Then there's 401 00:23:00.079 --> 00:23:02.160