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<v Speaker 1>A lot of the fundamental principals of ut and individual loss.

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<v Speaker 1>This is the show, all right, everybody, welcome to your

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<v Speaker 1>own book show. On this Wednesday, April ninth, the day

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<v Speaker 1>that Donald Trump blinked, spitulated, gave up, maybe not so much,

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<v Speaker 1>somewhat some of it anyway, the day where maybe we

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<v Speaker 1>realized more than any other day that we were complete.

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<v Speaker 1>We're at the complete whim of an authoritarian thug in

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<v Speaker 1>the White House. It basically is whatever he wants one day, yes,

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<v Speaker 1>one day, no, one day. Partially, don't like Chinese, go

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<v Speaker 1>after them. Insanity is the name of the game these days.

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<v Speaker 1>So yes, we are here to give you, to give

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<v Speaker 1>you the latest on what is going on in Washington,

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<v Speaker 1>d C. And a hall. This really adds up to

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<v Speaker 1>really does I think, add up to a new world order.

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<v Speaker 1>We'll see how events develop in the next few days, hours, days, weeks,

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<v Speaker 1>months up. But the world will never be the same

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<v Speaker 1>after the last few days and weeks, and we will

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<v Speaker 1>talk about that, and it's it's it's going to be

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<v Speaker 1>interesting to see how events developed developed in the next

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<v Speaker 1>few days. The market today up the NASDAC today, technology

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<v Speaker 1>stocks technology stocks were up up. What was a twelve percent.

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<v Speaker 1>Twelve percent, one of the biggest increases on a one

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<v Speaker 1>day in the history of the stock market. We'll get

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<v Speaker 1>to that. I'm back home jet lagged, so maybe i'll

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<v Speaker 1>be a little slow today. I don't know. We'll see

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<v Speaker 1>how long I last. We'll see how long I last

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<v Speaker 1>given the jet lag. I'm like, I want to go

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<v Speaker 1>to sleep, but we'll hang in there and do the show.

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<v Speaker 1>I expect shows tomorrow and Friday, not see exactly what times.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm still working on. Those times are a little unusual

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<v Speaker 1>because my schedule is a little bit in flux. And

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<v Speaker 1>then over the weekend there will be a show on Sunday.

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<v Speaker 1>I think the show on Sunday is going to be

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<v Speaker 1>I think the theme of the show on Sunday is

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<v Speaker 1>going to be how Trump is the worst negotiator in

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<v Speaker 1>human history. I think that's going to be the title

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<v Speaker 1>Trump the worst negotiator ever. That'll be Sunday, and it'll

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<v Speaker 1>be a promised to entertaining show. It's a sponsored show.

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<v Speaker 1>I got a sponsorship for that one, So it is

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<v Speaker 1>it is, it is going to be. It is going

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<v Speaker 1>to be fun and I think interesting. I think interesting

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<v Speaker 1>to see all the ways in which Trump fails in negotiating.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, reminder to everybody, super chat is open. It

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<v Speaker 1>was opened by Willie Randall with one hundred Australian dollars,

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<v Speaker 1>so thank you Ranal. So yeah, jump in. Thank you

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<v Speaker 1>Robert for the sticker. And Katherine Catherine said like she's

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<v Speaker 1>going to bed, she's in Europe. It's too late, but

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<v Speaker 1>she left some dollars, So thank you Catherine. That that

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<v Speaker 1>that was very generous and nice with Catherine. You can

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<v Speaker 1>do the same coming over to YouTube, where you can

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<v Speaker 1>participate in the super chat and also contribute to a

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<v Speaker 1>sticker ask me questions that basically determines the direction of

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<v Speaker 1>the show. God, the US, the austrillion dollars just keeps

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<v Speaker 1>thinking lower and lower in terms of American dollars. So yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>come on over and let people know, well on live

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<v Speaker 1>right now, on Twitter, wherever, YouTube, let people know that

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<v Speaker 1>they should come over and participate in the live chat

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<v Speaker 1>All right, let's jump in. God, what what a few

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<v Speaker 1>days this has been. We saw the stock market react

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<v Speaker 1>to Trump's Liberation Day last week where he placed so

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<v Speaker 1>called recipical tasks because they're now reciprocal, that have nothing

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<v Speaker 1>to do with the other country's towers. And we saw

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<v Speaker 1>just the market collapse as a consequence of those toasts.

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<v Speaker 1>We saw the market go down dramatically and it became

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<v Speaker 1>and we saw Trump really say he was committed to these.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, I've got a quote somewhere with him saying

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not gonna change my mind. This is a reciprocal traffs.

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<v Speaker 1>We're gonna stick with these, We're gonna We're gonna go

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<v Speaker 1>with them. And indeed, Natannielle Beni a minute to now

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<v Speaker 1>met with Trump yesterday and he came all the way

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<v Speaker 1>from Israel and he was gonna ask for Hey, look

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<v Speaker 1>our tariffs and American goods, we have lowered them without

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<v Speaker 1>even asking you. We have lowered them to zero. Please

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<v Speaker 1>lower the reciprocal tavis because how's the zero. Trump's reciprocal

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<v Speaker 1>tavits on Israel as seventeen percent. And Trump said, nah,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think I'm gonna lower them below seventeen percent,

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<v Speaker 1>even though yours are zero, because there's a trade epicode.

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<v Speaker 1>See Trump doesn't care about other countries tariffs on American goods.

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<v Speaker 1>Only thing that as to Trump is the deficit. So

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<v Speaker 1>if you're running, if Israel is exporting more stuff to

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<v Speaker 1>America than it is importing from America, which I don't know,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe they're not counting military equipment or something. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know how that works. But if that's the case, then yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>you get America places a terrify on you. Because for Trump,

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<v Speaker 1>again zero some mentality. And this is one of the

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<v Speaker 1>things I really keep repeating, but I want to try

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<v Speaker 1>to try to get people to really get this has

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<v Speaker 1>nothing to do with anything the whole terraft thing. It's

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<v Speaker 1>not three D chess, it's not tax revenue, it's not

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<v Speaker 1>bringing manufacturing back home, it's not any of those things.

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<v Speaker 1>It is everything to do with Trump's perceptual level understanding

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<v Speaker 1>of the essence of trade. A trade deficit for Trump

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<v Speaker 1>is we are losing somehow. There's no conception of win win.

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<v Speaker 1>It's wind lose. So you got to balance the wind

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<v Speaker 1>lose transactions with lose winds, and if the trade balances,

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<v Speaker 1>then at least you're not losing. So what he wants

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<v Speaker 1>is with every country in the world. He wants a

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<v Speaker 1>trade balance. Say you want a poor country like Vietnam

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<v Speaker 1>to buy expensive American goods in the same quantity as

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<v Speaker 1>American biased shep Vietnamese goods same dollar amount. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>that just can't happen. Vietnamese are not rich enough to

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<v Speaker 1>buy the kind of things that America actually makes and

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<v Speaker 1>produces services. Primarily, it's it's stupid, but it's insane. It's

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<v Speaker 1>non economics, anti economics even. And it's perceptual level, it's

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<v Speaker 1>non it's non concept nonconceptual, nonconceptual, anti conceptual even. But

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<v Speaker 1>that's the level of which Donald Trump functions, always has

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<v Speaker 1>and he really believes this. Again, this is the one issue,

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<v Speaker 1>the only issue really that he has not changed his

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<v Speaker 1>mind about since the nineteen eighties. Right, He wrote about

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<v Speaker 1>this in the nineteen eighties about trade with Japan, and

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<v Speaker 1>just just the same as he did today. This we're

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<v Speaker 1>supstizing them. We should have a trade deficit with them,

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<v Speaker 1>and we need to do whatever we can to bring

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<v Speaker 1>trade into balance, or ideally we sell them more goods

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<v Speaker 1>than we import. That way, we're being subsidized by them.

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<v Speaker 1>That's okay, we lose. You want to be the win

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<v Speaker 1>they one they're going to lose. So yeah, so this

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<v Speaker 1>is a case where there's nothing going on here other

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<v Speaker 1>than Trump's signam wants nothing really no. And again Vietnam

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<v Speaker 1>has come over and said, will lower test to zero?

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<v Speaker 1>Will you lower your taes? Will you lower these new

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<v Speaker 1>tariffs for us? And Trump's basically said, well, let's negotiate.

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<v Speaker 1>But this is not some way of achieving free trade,

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<v Speaker 1>zero tarifs across the board. This is not some leverage

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<v Speaker 1>he is putting on other countries to lower their tasks. Anyway,

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<v Speaker 1>what has been happening in the last few days is

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<v Speaker 1>the first day that Trump and We're gonna go through

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit of financial market stuff. In the first

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<v Speaker 1>few days, the Trump announced the reciprocal in quotation marks tariffs,

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<v Speaker 1>which were some of them were sixty seventy percent, which

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<v Speaker 1>were not reciprocal because it was just a trade deficit

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<v Speaker 1>divided by exports, so just represented the extent to which

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<v Speaker 1>we have a trade deficit with the country, not how

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<v Speaker 1>much tariffs actually put in American goods. The stock market

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<v Speaker 1>collapsed fifteen percent, uh and this morning it was going

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<v Speaker 1>down further. At the same time, and another interesting phenomenon

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<v Speaker 1>was going on the bond markets. This is a government

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<v Speaker 1>bonds that are traded, and in the bond market, initially

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<v Speaker 1>people sold stocks and boat bonds. Bonds are usually what's

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<v Speaker 1>called the safe haven. When people panic, they buy bonds

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<v Speaker 1>because bonds probably don't default, the US government probably is

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<v Speaker 1>not going to default on them, and if for, they

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<v Speaker 1>were safe haven, so everybody buys the bonds. When you

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<v Speaker 1>buy bonds, you drive the price up, the yield, the

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<v Speaker 1>interest rate. The ten in this case ten year interestright

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<v Speaker 1>that everybody's watching went down and went down a lot

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<v Speaker 1>in the first two days. In the first day after

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<v Speaker 1>the tasks were announced, and then something curious started happening,

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<v Speaker 1>which was completely unexpected or at least unexpected by most people.

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<v Speaker 1>Stocks continued to go down, but then so did bonds,

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<v Speaker 1>very similar to what happened during COVID. Bonds started collapsing.

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<v Speaker 1>In other words, bonds American bonds were now viewed as

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<v Speaker 1>a safe haven anymore, or somebody out there were selling

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<v Speaker 1>American bonds. Ten year bonds and thirty year bonds were

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<v Speaker 1>being sold in quantities that we just have not seen.

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<v Speaker 1>In other words, the interest rate ten year inches straight

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<v Speaker 1>and thirty year interest rate suddenly went up a lot. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>if you remember on my show last week from Israel,

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<v Speaker 1>I mentioned one of the ideas at Ludwig or Bessett

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<v Speaker 1>or one of these mindless Trumpet appointees made on one

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<v Speaker 1>of the talk shows, and he said, yeah, I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>if the Stockholm goes down and there's a session the

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<v Speaker 1>you know, interstates are coming down. Interstates will go down.

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<v Speaker 1>That will allow the government to raise money at lower

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<v Speaker 1>interest rates, save money on interest payments by the government,

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<v Speaker 1>and that will reduce the deficit and reduce of debt.

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<v Speaker 1>And that's a good thing. And there was a couple

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<v Speaker 1>of days there, like Wednesday, Thursday or Thursday fighting it

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<v Speaker 1>looked like, yeah, that looked like that might be happening.

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<v Speaker 1>And then all of that reversed and suddenly interstate started

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<v Speaker 1>going up. The ten year, the thirty year all going

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<v Speaker 1>up significantly. I mean, so the highest percentage changes in

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<v Speaker 1>interest rates on the way up that we've seen in

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<v Speaker 1>modern times. I mean one day was it was higher

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<v Speaker 1>than any other day since nineteen eighty two. Nineteen eighty two.

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<v Speaker 1>Now that means it was doing the reverse or what

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<v Speaker 1>best it. And Ludwig was saying, because now if they

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<v Speaker 1>come in and wants to all money. For example, I

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<v Speaker 1>think it issued thirty nine billion dollars worth of debt today,

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<v Speaker 1>ten year debt. It paid, It wasn't paying less. It

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<v Speaker 1>was actually paying more than it would have a week ago,

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<v Speaker 1>or a little bit more than a week ago, but

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<v Speaker 1>much more than what it had dropped in those first

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<v Speaker 1>two days. So why did that happen? And why is

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<v Speaker 1>that what ultimately I think forced Donald Trump's hand in

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<v Speaker 1>pausing some of the taps. We'll get to them in

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<v Speaker 1>a minute. You remember, I think I told you the

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<v Speaker 1>story once of during Bill Clinton's term in the nineteen nineties,

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<v Speaker 1>everybody talked about the bond market vigilantes, and every time

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<v Speaker 1>the government did something the bond market didn't like, they

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<v Speaker 1>drove into straights up and that forced the government's hand.

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<v Speaker 1>And James Carvill said that if he was going to

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<v Speaker 1>be born again, he wanted to be born as the

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<v Speaker 1>bond market, because the bond market had the real power

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<v Speaker 1>in the world, not presidents, not you know, political advisors.

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<v Speaker 1>It was the bond market that drove the world. And

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<v Speaker 1>that's what we saw this week. That's what we saw today.

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<v Speaker 1>The bond market basically spoke and the bond market said,

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<v Speaker 1>what Donald Trump is doing is insane. It's driving up risk,

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<v Speaker 1>driving up the prospects of higher interest rates in the future,

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<v Speaker 1>potentially inflation. But really what it drove up is not inflation.

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's risk. It's risk of either the federal

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<v Speaker 1>government defaulting or more likely, the federal government having to

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<v Speaker 1>towards a recession. Potentially these tariffs are not good for

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<v Speaker 1>right now is very high. It's similar to what it

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<v Speaker 1>I think caused the people around Trump to panic, I

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<v Speaker 1>mean really panic. You saw elements of this over the weekend,

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<v Speaker 1>particularly last couple of days, where Elon Musk came out

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<v Speaker 1>Navaux names, Peter and Navarau started calling Trump names, and

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<v Speaker 1>there was this whole public you know, attacking each other

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<v Speaker 1>publicly between Navarro and Musk over these tariffs. In this case,

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<v Speaker 1>Musk is right, Navao is a bigger idiot than his boss.

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<v Speaker 1>there was already fiction with an administration. The various Trump

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<v Speaker 1>more and more and more and more difficult to actually

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<v Speaker 1>defend these tariffs. A number of academics, you know, when

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<v Speaker 1>This is what we got the theory behind why we're

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<v Speaker 1>doing these new traffs. Basically, the authors of those articles,

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<v Speaker 1>one by one came out and said, that's not what

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<v Speaker 1>you guys don't know what you're doing. And every single

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<v Speaker 1>we should call it, the Trump propaganda channel. Fox was

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<v Speaker 1>starting to have doubts about the towers. Of course we

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<v Speaker 1>know Ben Shapiro was, of course doubting them. And I

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<v Speaker 1>think there was there was just every increasing pressure going

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<v Speaker 1>into this morning about this. And what happened this morning

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<v Speaker 1>up again, and I think Trump's economic advisors went to

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<v Speaker 1>him and said, this is a disaster. A few days ago,

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<v Speaker 1>up on the rumor, and then the White House the

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<v Speaker 1>night of the rumor, and stucks collapsed. So Trump figured

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<v Speaker 1>around noon, actually one nineteen pm, you can tell because

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<v Speaker 1>he posted this on social one nineteen pm, Trump came

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<v Speaker 1>out with a statement basically for a ninety day pause

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<v Speaker 1>on some of the tariffs. In other words, the pause

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<v Speaker 1>is only on the portion that he called reciprocal. It's

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<v Speaker 1>still true the ten percent tariffs on everybody go into

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<v Speaker 1>effect immediately. It's still true the twenty five percent tariffs

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<v Speaker 1>and cars and car parts are in place. It's still

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<v Speaker 1>true that the twenty five percent tariffs on sudden goods

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<v Speaker 1>from Canada and from Mexico, the Fenton Al tariffs are

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<v Speaker 1>still in place. And this morning it was still true

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<v Speaker 1>that tariffs on China were in place. Indeed, a part

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<v Speaker 1>of his announcement for ninety day pause, Trump raised the

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<v Speaker 1>tariffs on China. This is what he wrote, based on

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<v Speaker 1>the lack of respect that China has shown to the

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<v Speaker 1>world's markets. I am hereby raising the tariff charged to

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<v Speaker 1>China by the United States to one hundred and twenty

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<v Speaker 1>five percent effective immediately. In other words, in other words,

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<v Speaker 1>China didn't come and gravel, they didn't kiss the ring,

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<v Speaker 1>and therefore the bad guys they actually imposed reciprocal tarots

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<v Speaker 1>of eighty four percent or something, And now he's up

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<v Speaker 1>to the one twenty five, and who knows what they'll

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<v Speaker 1>do tomorrow. This isn't him being tough on China. This

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<v Speaker 1>is him just being his regular mindless, reactive tit for tat.

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<v Speaker 1>They didn't kiss the ring. They insulted me, they're not

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<v Speaker 1>tomorrow and talks nice to Trump and pats him on

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<v Speaker 1>the back a little bit and kisses the ring a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit. Even if the mild kiss, Trump will immediately

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<v Speaker 1>lower the towers. There's no substancy. In other words, it's

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<v Speaker 1>not like the one twenty five tabists is increased in

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<v Speaker 1>China because China is a potential enemy of the United

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<v Speaker 1>States and we own a bankrupt them because we don't

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<v Speaker 1>want them to get strong and successful. No, this is

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<v Speaker 1>just they didn't kiss the erring, he continues, and he

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<v Speaker 1>is exactly. He is exactly the point. At some point,

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<v Speaker 1>hopefully in the near future, China will realize that the

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<v Speaker 1>days of ripping off the United States and other countries

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<v Speaker 1>is no longer sustainable or acceptable. Conversely, and based on

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<v Speaker 1>representatives of the United States, including the Department of Commerce,

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<v Speaker 1>Treasury in the US Trade Representative, to negotiate a solution

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<v Speaker 1>to the subjects being discussed relative to trade trade barriers tabis, coulency, manipulation,

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<v Speaker 1>at my strong suggestion, retaliated in any way, shape or

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<v Speaker 1>form against the United States. I've authorized one ninety eight

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<v Speaker 1>of ten percent, also effective immediately. In other words, they

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<v Speaker 1>kissed the right, they came groveling. Now, notice that this

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<v Speaker 1>is all BS because Donald Trump basically paused the tafts

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<v Speaker 1>because financial markets were penalizing him and the economy for

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<v Speaker 1>raising them. He blinked, he folded, he failed. As a consequence,

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<v Speaker 1>stocks shut up. I've never seen such an upward movement

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<v Speaker 1>just my personal opinion. Stocks or does the market the

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<v Speaker 1>technology stocks? Are they really worth twelve percent more than

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<v Speaker 1>they were yesterday based on ninety day pause by our

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<v Speaker 1>this affects it that much. Yeah, they should have been

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<v Speaker 1>up three to four percent, twelve percent at the same time. Note,

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<v Speaker 1>and this is why I don't think this rise in

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<v Speaker 1>go down. That is, the yield went up not as

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<v Speaker 1>much as it had this morning. So after the pause,

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<v Speaker 1>bond went up a little bit relative to where they

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<v Speaker 1>were in the morning, but they still ended the day down.

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<v Speaker 1>In other words, inter states went up, the ten year

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<v Speaker 1>as well. And generally when interestates go up, long term

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<v Speaker 1>interestates in particular stocks should come down. So mixed messages here.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think the rally in stocks is sustainable. There's

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<v Speaker 1>not enough here to sustain that rally. Ten percent tariff

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<v Speaker 1>on all inputs into the United States and addition to

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<v Speaker 1>the inputs that you already exist, means a five acs

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<v Speaker 1>of the existing tariffs. Taraffs are about two percent right now,

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<v Speaker 1>and they're going to ten percent. That's five x the tariffs.

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<v Speaker 1>And then, of course the big issue is one of

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<v Speaker 1>trade is dead. And what exactly this means is hard

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<v Speaker 1>to tell. Amazon I read this, I read today Amazon

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<v Speaker 1>is suspending all purchases from China because they can't raise

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<v Speaker 1>prices by one hundred and twenty five percent, So they're

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<v Speaker 1>just not gonna They're just not gonna buy anything. And that's,

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<v Speaker 1>of course what happens. It's not that they sell exactly

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<v Speaker 1>the same volume of goods as one hundred and twenty

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<v Speaker 1>five percent tariff. They land up selling zero goods at

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<v Speaker 1>one hundred and twenty five percent tariffs. And indeed, many many,

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<v Speaker 1>many companies out there, many many small businesses, large businesses,

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<v Speaker 1>medium sized businesses who buy goods, or buy materials, or

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<v Speaker 1>go out of business. They're going to try to source

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<v Speaker 1>material from elsewhere, but it's going to be rough. They

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<v Speaker 1>can't buy it from China anymore. They can't. By the way,

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<v Speaker 1>China has very low tariffs and US goods, very low

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<v Speaker 1>tariffs and US goods. So it's not we're not penalizing

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<v Speaker 1>China of having high tariffs. They don't, and they have

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<v Speaker 1>been declining for the last thirty years, steady systematic decline,

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<v Speaker 1>and they're very low, lower than ten percent. Sole ten

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<v Speaker 1>percent tariff on everybody is already higher than what China

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<v Speaker 1>tariff's US goods. This has nothing to do with how

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<v Speaker 1>other countries tariff the US. Israel has a ten percent,

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<v Speaker 1>zero percent tariff on US goods. Now under this new scheme,

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<v Speaker 1>Israeli goods coming into the United States will be tariffed

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<v Speaker 1>at ten percent. There's no relationship between the two. Trump

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<v Speaker 1>has no conception of what trade means, and white trade

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<v Speaker 1>difficits don't matter. We talked about this last week, so

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<v Speaker 1>here we are today with a pause for ninety days.

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<v Speaker 1>But of course Trump has already said that this doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>mean that we won't have tariffs on other goods. He

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<v Speaker 1>is probably gonna imposed house specific tariffs on a number

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<v Speaker 1>of different goods being inputed into the United States and

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<v Speaker 1>various places around the world, just like he did an

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<v Speaker 1>enforced today saying, look, what a genius Trump. This is

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<v Speaker 1>a Trump win. No, this is Trump giving into financial markets.

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<v Speaker 1>This is Trump loss. Trump got nothing of what he wanted.

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<v Speaker 1>There is not going to be trade balanced, not in

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<v Speaker 1>a balanced trade deficit as they were trade deficit, and

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<v Speaker 1>that's all he cares about. And the graveling, the kissing,

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<v Speaker 1>the ring. He got a little bit of that, that's true.

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<v Speaker 1>It's also so they're gonna be montarios in the days

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<v Speaker 1>But Trump himself didn't say that. I've got a quote

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<v Speaker 1>the White House why he decided to institute a ninety

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<v Speaker 1>day pause, and this is how you responded. Note that

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<v Speaker 1>he's not saying he won at all. This is how

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<v Speaker 1>he explained it. Quote, Well, I thought that people were

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<v Speaker 1>jumping a little bit out of line. They were getting yippy,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, they were getting a little bit yippy, a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit afraid. Yeah, markets were collapsing. People are afraid.

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<v Speaker 1>Bud markets were collapsing, people were afraid. At Lon Musk

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<v Speaker 1>was flipping out. People were afraid. I'm speaking for Trump,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm quoting Trump. Trump is saying he did the ninety

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<v Speaker 1>day pause because people were a little bit afraid. In

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<v Speaker 1>other words, he paused. He paused because of the fear

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<v Speaker 1>in the markets, not because he won, not because he

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<v Speaker 1>got what he wanted now, because other countries gave in,

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<v Speaker 1>now because they surrendered to him, but because financial markets

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<v Speaker 1>were afraid a little bit afraid. Is a direct quote

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<v Speaker 1>from Donald Trump. I didn't make that up. So you know,

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<v Speaker 1>you can play the three D chess all you want.

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<v Speaker 1>Trump actually says it like it is. He knows he's

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<v Speaker 1>incapable of three D chess, and therefore he just tells

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<v Speaker 1>you exactly what it is. Yeah, I caved because the

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<v Speaker 1>markets were a free all right. I titled today's show

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<v Speaker 1>a new World Order, and I think it is a

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<v Speaker 1>new world order in a number of different respects. I

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<v Speaker 1>think the last few the last week or so, have

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<v Speaker 1>basically made real the fact that the United States now

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<v Speaker 1>is in many ways more similar now to Putin's Russia

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<v Speaker 1>than it is to America. We have a president who

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<v Speaker 1>can basically sign executive orders in an unprecedented manner, raised

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<v Speaker 1>taxes on Americans by hundreds of billions of dollars with

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<v Speaker 1>no checks, no balance, no input from Congress, no input

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<v Speaker 1>from anybody, can basically challenge the world like a little

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<v Speaker 1>dictator with the only checks and balance is the stock

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<v Speaker 1>market in the bond market. You know, Edward, I'm just

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<v Speaker 1>going to do it a side for a second. Edward,

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<v Speaker 1>you should stop posting comments on the chat and you

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<v Speaker 1>should listen. You'd learn something. You're very ignorant, and you

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<v Speaker 1>would really learn from the analysis. You might not agree

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<v Speaker 1>with all of it, but you would learn something. You

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<v Speaker 1>really would get to Nathanielle's visit in the White House

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<v Speaker 1>in a little bit, because what you're doing in the

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<v Speaker 1>chat is it's ignorant and silly. So we now have

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<v Speaker 1>really a strong house, a strong man in the White House,

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<v Speaker 1>as we said, raising tariffs, putting people. The courts are

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<v Speaker 1>trying to hold him up, but it's difficult. It really

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<v Speaker 1>is difficult. It's slow, and on tariffs, I don't think

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<v Speaker 1>the courts know exactly what to do, and we'll see

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<v Speaker 1>what actually develops. They might be I know they're going

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<v Speaker 1>to be some more lawsuits around tariffs, and it's going

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<v Speaker 1>to be interesting to see how the courts deal with that.

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<v Speaker 1>There's some noise in Congress about taking back the authority,

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<v Speaker 1>the responsibility, that the responsibility, the constitutional responsibility of owning tariffs,

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<v Speaker 1>but I just don't think they'll get enough votes in

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<v Speaker 1>order to do it. It won't even in the House

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<v Speaker 1>speaking Johnson won't even come to the floor that you

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<v Speaker 1>won't let it even be discussed. So we now have,

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<v Speaker 1>for the first time, maybe since I FTR, maybe really

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<v Speaker 1>ever a president they can get away with an economic front,

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<v Speaker 1>refriguring the US economy and refrigering the global economy, really

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<v Speaker 1>without any consultation, without anybody's input. It's whatever Trump wants

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<v Speaker 1>this morning. And the whole US system of government is

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<v Speaker 1>built to prevent this. The whole system of government is

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<v Speaker 1>organized around the idea year that the president doesn't have

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<v Speaker 1>this power to just wake up in the morning and

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<v Speaker 1>dictate what should be the order of the day, that

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<v Speaker 1>if he wants to change things, he has to go

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<v Speaker 1>through Congress. He has to have bills passed, and the

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<v Speaker 1>two houses of Congress. So it's not even enough to

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<v Speaker 1>have control over one and in the Senate you need

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<v Speaker 1>sixty votes to get anything done. So the whole point

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<v Speaker 1>of our system of government is to slow things bound

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<v Speaker 1>to make change difficult, particularly when it comes to increasing

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<v Speaker 1>taxes or dramatically changing the world economic order. You want

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<v Speaker 1>to slow things down, to deliberate, to discuss, to think

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<v Speaker 1>it through, to get consult from experts. But no, we

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<v Speaker 1>live in America and New America, America that did not

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<v Speaker 1>exist yesterday, I mean did not exist three months ago.

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<v Speaker 1>In America where the president wakes up in the morning

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<v Speaker 1>and decides, Hmm, I don't like Canada. I'm gonna impost

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<v Speaker 1>twenty five percent tas in Canada. And somebody might say,

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<v Speaker 1>but but President Trump, you signed an agreement with that

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<v Speaker 1>would agreement. Who cares about the agreement? I want twenty

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<v Speaker 1>five I will get twenty five percent tariffs? What about Congress?

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<v Speaker 1>Who cares about Congress? I want twenty five percent hoffs?

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<v Speaker 1>I think I will get twenty five percent have And

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<v Speaker 1>by the way, I don't like the Chinese. They're pissing

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<v Speaker 1>me off. They like not playing the game the way

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<v Speaker 1>I want it to be played. So I'm going to

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<v Speaker 1>race to have on them for one hundred and twenty

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<v Speaker 1>five percent. I'm basically gonna stop trade with China. Now

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<v Speaker 1>that's a game change in American politics, and I don't

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<v Speaker 1>you can't put this genie back in the box. This

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<v Speaker 1>is now going to be the standard for whoever comes

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<v Speaker 1>after Trump. It's going to be the standard for the

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<v Speaker 1>next four years. The President will decide, the President will determine,

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<v Speaker 1>and everybody else will obey. Gone is the American syst

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<v Speaker 1>no government in many respects. Now there are only some

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<v Speaker 1>areas in government where as of now the president can

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<v Speaker 1>get away with that. But that's going to expand, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>it's going to expand. It's not gonna shrink unless there's

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<v Speaker 1>some kind of constitutional revolution. And I don't see where

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<v Speaker 1>that comes from. Where does a counter constitutional revolution, a

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<v Speaker 1>revolution that brings back the constitution? Where's that going to

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<v Speaker 1>come from. Who's going to initiate that, Who's going to

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<v Speaker 1>launch that? The left? Democrats, Republicans, this Republican Party got

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<v Speaker 1>to be kidding me. Now, this new World Order also

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<v Speaker 1>signifies a mean is signified by a complete rejection by

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<v Speaker 1>the United States of what has me taken as its

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<v Speaker 1>role in the international order since World War Two. Gone

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<v Speaker 1>America's alliances. Trump has indicated exactly what he thinks of NATO,

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<v Speaker 1>of Europe, of the UK, no respect for them, and

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<v Speaker 1>no interest in any kind of alliance that signifies mutual defense.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know if Trump will leave NATO, but Trump's

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<v Speaker 1>commitment to LATO is insignificant. There is no way any

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<v Speaker 1>of European countries now rely on Trump on America to

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<v Speaker 1>defend them. We're seeing a complete breakdown in trust in America.

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<v Speaker 1>And it's not just in Europe. The way he has

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<v Speaker 1>treated Japan, the way he has treated North South Korea,

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<v Speaker 1>the way he's treated Vietnam, the way he's treated Pacific

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<v Speaker 1>countries who unnecessary allies for US. Confronting China makes alliances

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<v Speaker 1>with those countries unlikely. And if we do have alliances

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<v Speaker 1>with them, they will be very, very very cautious. They

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<v Speaker 1>are going to be very, very very suspicious. They have

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<v Speaker 1>seen how he will turn on a dime on a

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<v Speaker 1>country like Canada, a member of America's defense alliance. Basically forever,

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<v Speaker 1>America is now renegged on the virtue of free trade.

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<v Speaker 1>Not that long ago America was responsible and committed not

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<v Speaker 1>just to free trade in theory, but responsible and committed

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<v Speaker 1>to the defense of the shipping lanes in the world,

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<v Speaker 1>to facilitating free trade. We saw that by the way,

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<v Speaker 1>and uh we saw the turning away from that in JD.

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<v Speaker 1>Vansa's response there was captured in Signal Gate two going

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<v Speaker 1>after the Hooties. What did Jadevan say? Why should we

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<v Speaker 1>do it? Most of the trade up the Red Sea

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<v Speaker 1>through the Sewus Canal goes to Europe. We have no

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<v Speaker 1>interest in trade, so why should we care? We have

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<v Speaker 1>no interest in European trade. A complete reversal of the

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<v Speaker 1>idea that the United States, which it has done since

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<v Speaker 1>World War Two and the British British did before World

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<v Speaker 1>War two siddenly before World War One, is maintaining the

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<v Speaker 1>shipping lanes, maintaining free movement of goods across the planet,

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<v Speaker 1>not allowing pirates, not allow Hutis and others to stop

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<v Speaker 1>the trade. It's gone. So not only are we not

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<v Speaker 1>committed to free trade anymore, on the contrary, we're committed

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<v Speaker 1>to quote balance trade, which is bs nonsense. We're committed

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<v Speaker 1>basically to producing all the goods within our country and

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<v Speaker 1>minimal trading only minimally with the rest of the world.

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<v Speaker 1>We're not committed anymore to the free passage of goods.

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<v Speaker 1>You remember behind Ran said that the primary function of

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<v Speaker 1>foreign policy and the primary function of our military was

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<v Speaker 1>free trade. Was the preservation and expansion of free trade.

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<v Speaker 1>That is gone. That idea is gone. I mean, it's

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<v Speaker 1>even true that we live in a world in which

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<v Speaker 1>the people in power and the people who support the

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<v Speaker 1>people in power have also completely rejected any kind of

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<v Speaker 1>trust in science and particularly in modern medicine. The world

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<v Speaker 1>is different. It may be the change already started under COVID,

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<v Speaker 1>but the new world that Donald Trump is brought forth

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<v Speaker 1>is different. It is basically a world where the United

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<v Speaker 1>States is dramatically diminished. It's a smaller America. It's an

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<v Speaker 1>America that doesn't trust its allies, that doesn't value relative freedom,

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't value trade. It is in America that has lost

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<v Speaker 1>the interest in the world, but has also lost the

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<v Speaker 1>interest in freedom, in liberty, and in its own economic success. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>it could be that the stock market, in the bond

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<v Speaker 1>market will save us from this latest Trump irrationality, but

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<v Speaker 1>it's not going to save us from the fact that

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<v Speaker 1>we have now created a presidency which is imperial, which

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<v Speaker 1>is authoritarian, which is strong man ish. We are moving

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<v Speaker 1>now in the direction of a Putin's Russia with nominal elections,

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<v Speaker 1>but not that important because whoever gets elected is going

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<v Speaker 1>to rule as a strong man. Nobody has an incentive

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<v Speaker 1>to give the power back. In the short run. We

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<v Speaker 1>live in a world of massive uncertainty. Market swinging wildly

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<v Speaker 1>was with an authoritarian's whim. Whatever the autocrat feels like

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<v Speaker 1>this morning. We don't know how to plan. Business is

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<v Speaker 1>not going to invest. Long term planning has gone out

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<v Speaker 1>the window. What we have is a presidency committed to power,

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<v Speaker 1>the flexing of muscles. That is not good news for business.

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<v Speaker 1>It's not good news for economic growth. It's not good

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<v Speaker 1>news for investment. And by the way, you remember I

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<v Speaker 1>told you the story of how we're not a story

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<v Speaker 1>of the economic fact of how people sell America stuff

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<v Speaker 1>to get dollars so they can invest it in the

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<v Speaker 1>United States. Who's going to want to do that? Who's

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<v Speaker 1>going to want to invest in the US? Why would

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<v Speaker 1>they want to invest in the US? Maybe that's what

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<v Speaker 1>the bond market is telling us. Our fund investors are

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<v Speaker 1>running away from us. They're leaving. You know, Germany is

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<v Speaker 1>going to be issuing a lot of bonds soon to

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<v Speaker 1>build up its defenses. They'd rather buy German bonds than

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<v Speaker 1>American bonds. Right now, America cannot be trusted. America is

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<v Speaker 1>run by the whims of a strong man. Why would

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<v Speaker 1>we want to invest in that now. One of the

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<v Speaker 1>things that is dramatically changing here is one of the

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<v Speaker 1>most beneficial, one of the most mutually beneficial trade relationships

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<v Speaker 1>in human history. The trade relationship between China and the

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<v Speaker 1>United States is now broken. Not a little bit, it

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<v Speaker 1>is broken now. You could argue that the United States

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<v Speaker 1>needed to back off a little bit from trading with China,

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<v Speaker 1>certainly goods, but one hundred and twenty five percent tariffs

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<v Speaker 1>basically means the United States is buying Americans are not

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<v Speaker 1>buying anything Chinese, and the Chinese are not buying anything American.

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<v Speaker 1>What it means is a massive lose lose scenario. It

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<v Speaker 1>means Chinese ships are not coming to American ports. By

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<v Speaker 1>the way, all Chinese built ships, this is irrespective of tariffs.

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<v Speaker 1>All Chinese bill built ships are going to have to

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<v Speaker 1>pay a fine to enter US ports and unknown goods

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<v Speaker 1>in US ports. China today produces more than fifty percent

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<v Speaker 1>of all ships, so a massive number of the world

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<v Speaker 1>shipping is Chinese built, and yet those ships will not

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<v Speaker 1>now enter US ports because they'd have to pay a

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<v Speaker 1>huge fine. China has massive industrial manufacturing capacity. They're going

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<v Speaker 1>to sell those goods, They're just not going to sell

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<v Speaker 1>them to America. And China is not going to be

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<v Speaker 1>buying many American goods. Chinese are not going to be

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<v Speaker 1>buying many American goods. And again, this relationship now is broken.

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<v Speaker 1>The core of globalization is broken, and this will have

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<v Speaker 1>spiraling negative effects globally. It will shift trade to new places,

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<v Speaker 1>to new countries. It will retard trade in many areas,

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<v Speaker 1>in many places, and for many people. And again this

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<v Speaker 1>is lose lose. You know, maybe some people gain, but

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<v Speaker 1>for most part, everybody loses. America, with all these trade barriers,

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<v Speaker 1>is going to be relatively marginalized in the world. Investments

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<v Speaker 1>are going to flow elsewhere. Why would you invest in

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<v Speaker 1>America given them suddainty that's involved. Why would you invest

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<v Speaker 1>in America when other countries are great tariffs and goods

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<v Speaker 1>made in America? So, why would you invest in a

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<v Speaker 1>country where the leadership is driven by wim Not even

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<v Speaker 1>a bad economic theory, not even a wrong economic theory.

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<v Speaker 1>I can do that because that's predictable. But just no

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<v Speaker 1>economic theory, just on whim. All right, all right, let's

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<v Speaker 1>see now, it looks like the huge dumping of US

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<v Speaker 1>bonds yesterday last night was being done by Japan, now China.

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<v Speaker 1>Although it's hard to tell these things, but that's what

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<v Speaker 1>it seems like, and it's what forced Trump's hand. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know what the world looks like at the end

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<v Speaker 1>of all this, but I do think what America is

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<v Speaker 1>doing is exact opposite of what Trump claims he wants

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<v Speaker 1>to do. He wants to prevent China from becoming a

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<v Speaker 1>hegemon in Asia. Well, this trade stuff is going to

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<v Speaker 1>make China the hegemon in Asia, the dominant power in Asia.

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<v Speaker 1>The Chinese, the South Koreans and the others are not

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<v Speaker 1>going to trust the United States. Then I had to

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<v Speaker 1>trust us today defend them. Then are going to trust

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<v Speaker 1>us to trade with them, and they're going to have

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<v Speaker 1>to hedge their bets. And they hedge their bets by

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<v Speaker 1>warming to the Chinese. In spite of the Chinese growing authoritarianism.

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<v Speaker 1>They need a hedge. And this is true across all

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<v Speaker 1>of Asia. Note that the one country the United States

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<v Speaker 1>did not put tariff on is Russia. Trump's basically granting

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<v Speaker 1>Russia dominance over I think any area of the putin

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<v Speaker 1>wants and Europe either fends for itself or falls onto

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<v Speaker 1>the dominance of Russia. But the United States is no

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<v Speaker 1>longer there to protected. So we are going to have.

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<v Speaker 1>What I've been talking about for weeks now is only

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<v Speaker 1>becoming more and more and more real as this ridiculous

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<v Speaker 1>trade war manifests itself. We have a you know, these

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<v Speaker 1>fears of influence, these dominant hegemons. We're gonna have Russia

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<v Speaker 1>Europe if it steps up the United States, maybe in

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<v Speaker 1>the America's although the way it's alienating Canada and Mexico,

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<v Speaker 1>it's not clear that anybody's gonna want to align themselves

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<v Speaker 1>with the United States. And then China in Asia and

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<v Speaker 1>maybe in Latin America because the United States again nobody

678
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<v Speaker 1>wants will want to deal with US. I mean yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean he's making the Chinese look good, which is hard,

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<v Speaker 1>which is hard. I am taking super chats, but I

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<v Speaker 1>usually take super chats an hour plus into the show,

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<v Speaker 1>So once I finished talking, I've got things I want

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<v Speaker 1>to say, all right, I don't know if we're heading

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<v Speaker 1>towards a recession, but I wouldn't be surprised, not because

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<v Speaker 1>of the tariffs per se, but because of lack of

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<v Speaker 1>investment that results on the tariffs. All I did want

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<v Speaker 1>to say something about Natanio because we talked about him

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<v Speaker 1>last week and Nataniel's visit to the US. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>there were three things that Nintenia wanted to get out

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<v Speaker 1>of this. He wanted to get to discuss with Trump

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<v Speaker 1>about Iran and wanted to get a US commitment to

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<v Speaker 1>support an attack on Iran or the US attacking Iran

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<v Speaker 1>or the Israel attacking run But he wanted to get

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<v Speaker 1>his support. He wanted to get the US support for

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<v Speaker 1>continuing the war in Gaza and for Israel putting a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of pressure on Hamas to release the hostage just

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<v Speaker 1>through military force. And he wanted Trump to do away

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<v Speaker 1>with the tariffs because Israel had already reduced its own

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<v Speaker 1>tawerts visa the United States the zero which is the

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<v Speaker 1>right thing to do. Everybody should do that. And Nintennio

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<v Speaker 1>basically went oero for three. He struck out. He did

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<v Speaker 1>not get the tariff production. I mean he got it

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<v Speaker 1>because everybody got it today. But when he met with Trump,

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<v Speaker 1>Trump said, nah, I'm not going to give you it's

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<v Speaker 1>still going to be seventeen percent. Today it was lowered

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<v Speaker 1>to ten, but not because of anything that Tanyaou did.

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<v Speaker 1>He did not get a commitment from me about Iran.

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<v Speaker 1>On quite the contrary, what Trump told him was, you

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<v Speaker 1>keep quiet. We are starting to negotiate with you on

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<v Speaker 1>this weekend. And you know, if we need to put

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<v Speaker 1>military pressure on Iran, we will, but for now, we're

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<v Speaker 1>in negotiating mode. We are talking to Iran directly starting

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<v Speaker 1>this weekend. And three. Trump basically said, look, I want

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<v Speaker 1>this war to be over. Enough of this war in Gaza.

715
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<v Speaker 1>It's distracting, we don't need it. Just end it. And

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<v Speaker 1>if that and means compromise, compromise, just end the war.

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<v Speaker 1>So Trump basically completely didn't give Natinillo anything. And if

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<v Speaker 1>you look at the Israeli press, they clear both right

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00:56:13.639 --> 00:56:16.280
<v Speaker 1>wing and left wing, they clearly view this as a

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<v Speaker 1>complete failure for Nataiello. He achieved nothing, not a single

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<v Speaker 1>one of his goals going into Washington, DC. And what's

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<v Speaker 1>interesting is this is a meeting Trump asked Nachenna how

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<v Speaker 1>to come for. He invited him over to tell him,

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<v Speaker 1>you're not getting anything. I've been telling you and particularly

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<v Speaker 1>my Israeli friends, that at the end of the day,

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<v Speaker 1>Trump is not a friend of Israel's hard for them

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<v Speaker 1>to grasp, hard for them to accept that, but I

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<v Speaker 1>think it is a reality. He will turn against Israel

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<v Speaker 1>when his whim dictates. So we've a strong man who

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<v Speaker 1>has whims on those whims of what guide him. All right,

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<v Speaker 1>I think let me just summarize. Look, I think that

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<v Speaker 1>pausing the riciper Go tarist is a good thing. I

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<v Speaker 1>think that pausing is very weak in the sense that

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<v Speaker 1>it still creates a lot of uncertainty in the marketplace.

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<v Speaker 1>That's why I don't think this increase in the stock

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<v Speaker 1>market is permanent. I think the investors are going to realize,

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<v Speaker 1>what does it mean? What happens in ninety days? What

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<v Speaker 1>else could he be doing? What other stuff will happen?

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<v Speaker 1>It would have been better to eliminate them. A ten

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<v Speaker 1>percent tariff is still pretty bad. It's five x on

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<v Speaker 1>Tawis and what it was before. I think it's really interesting.

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<v Speaker 1>We should all watch the bond market. We should watch

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<v Speaker 1>the bond market to see what happens to the interest rates.

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<v Speaker 1>It's going to be very interesting. The bond market is

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<v Speaker 1>asserting itself. That hasn't happened in a long time. And

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<v Speaker 1>when the bond market starts are sitting itself, interesting things happen.

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<v Speaker 1>It'll be interesting to see the extent to which it

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<v Speaker 1>can discipline Trump, and that'll be terrific. Trump will take

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<v Speaker 1>credit for it, but we will all know because I

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<v Speaker 1>will have told you it was really the bond market responsible.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know, did you guys? Do you guys see

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<v Speaker 1>all the navao navao alone musk stuff? It was? It

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<v Speaker 1>was pretty it was pretty entertaining. Let me just scan

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<v Speaker 1>this and see what else I want to say. Oh yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, I've got a nice graph that shows that

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<v Speaker 1>basically China has been dramatically reducing tewer. So if you

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<v Speaker 1>go back to ninety seventy nineteen seventy eight, taffs in

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<v Speaker 1>China were above fifty percent. Today there below fifty, below

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<v Speaker 1>ten percent and going down. They went down. Now you know,

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<v Speaker 1>so ITAs a well below ten percent today in China.

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<v Speaker 1>And China didn't get rich because of tariffs. China indeed

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<v Speaker 1>got rich because it eliminated tariffs as tabs were eliminated,

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<v Speaker 1>China got rich. I'll show this graph to you tomorrow.

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<v Speaker 1>I've got a graph that actually illustrates what's happened in

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<v Speaker 1>the middle class. Peter and Avaro over the weekend yesterday

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<v Speaker 1>said that he doesn't care for Vietnam rejuices tarists to zero.

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<v Speaker 1>So this is not about getting everybody to zero. The

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<v Speaker 1>problem is we buy too much from them and they

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<v Speaker 1>don't buy enough from us. So again it's all about

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<v Speaker 1>it's all about the trade balance. And anyway, Trump continues

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<v Speaker 1>to be a narcissist and win worshiper and pretty ignorant

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<v Speaker 1>and unsophisticated when it comes to economics. All right, let's

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<v Speaker 1>call that my segment. I think we're entering a new world.

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<v Speaker 1>It's going to be really interesting. Trade is gonna shift. Oh,

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<v Speaker 1>I did want to say trade is gonna shift to

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<v Speaker 1>China is gonna find new markets for its goods. Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>It's gonna find new markets for the stuff it imports.

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<v Speaker 1>For example, it's not gonna buy agricultural products in the

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<v Speaker 1>United States. Trump is gonna have to give the farmers

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<v Speaker 1>a subsidy. China is gonna This is a huge boost

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<v Speaker 1>for Brazilian agriculture. China will start buying from Brazil Argentina.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe now that Argentina has fewer tariffs and your export controls,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe Argentina will be exporting a lot more agricultural products

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<v Speaker 1>to China. So China will be buying from other countries

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<v Speaker 1>it also starts selling more to other countries. I wouldn't

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<v Speaker 1>be surprised if China signed a bunch of free trade

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<v Speaker 1>deals with other Asian countries, African countries, South American countries.

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<v Speaker 1>That China presents itself as now the champion of free trade,

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<v Speaker 1>which is kind of a joke given its authoritary nature,

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<v Speaker 1>but she has been known to do that, So expect

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<v Speaker 1>Chinese inputs in the United States to drop dramatically. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>it could be the Trump and she signed a deal

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<v Speaker 1>or kind of deal, but I don't think things are

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<v Speaker 1>ever going back to the way they wire. Just don't

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<v Speaker 1>see it because I don't think anybody's ever gonna trust

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<v Speaker 1>America again. I don't think anybody is going to assume

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<v Speaker 1>that America as friends. I don't see a political leader

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<v Speaker 1>in our future that can resurrect trust. I just I

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<v Speaker 1>you know, maybe I'm wrong. I just don't see it,

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<v Speaker 1>and I think we now had entered the era of

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<v Speaker 1>American strong men, American strong men ruling by their own

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<v Speaker 1>by their own whim. Whatever deal we have with China

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<v Speaker 1>will be no better than where we were before there

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<v Speaker 1>was a deal, or where we were before taris were raised.

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<v Speaker 1>We're going to gain absolutely nothing for what Trump has done.

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<v Speaker 1>We're gonna lose a lot of money, lose a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of economic growth, lose a lot of employment, lose a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of relationships. We are going to be poorer for

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<v Speaker 1>what Trump is done. The world is going to be

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<v Speaker 1>poor for what is Trump has done. And you know,

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<v Speaker 1>he might cut some deal, but it would be meaningless

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<v Speaker 1>and it's not garanteed there's going to be a deal.

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<v Speaker 1>As I said, China was lowering taffs anyway, So it's

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<v Speaker 1>sounds like she says, okay, lower tariff's, will you be happy.

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<v Speaker 1>Trump is going to say no, because we still have

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<v Speaker 1>a trade deficit with you, and there's no way to

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<v Speaker 1>get rid of that trade deficit. There just isn't anyway. Again,

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<v Speaker 1>China on a per capita GDP is a poor country.

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<v Speaker 1>America is a rich country. The Chinese cannot afford what

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<v Speaker 1>we have to sell and we can afford a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of what they have to sell, so there's no way

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<v Speaker 1>to raise the trade deficit. And nothing I think Trump

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<v Speaker 1>does is going to get rid of the trade episode.

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<v Speaker 1>What he is going to get rid of is our

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<v Speaker 1>relatively high standard of living. That's what he's trying to

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<v Speaker 1>get rid of. Not consciously, but that's that's what's going

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<v Speaker 1>on all right. Let me remind you of our sponsors,

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<v Speaker 1>much faster. All right, let us get starded Randall, says

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<v Speaker 1>hey Ron. In Australia, there's a debate over multinational gas

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<v Speaker 1>companies paying tax as Many see it as fair. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>I get the economic benefits of no tax. I struggle

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<v Speaker 1>with the fatness argument. What's the best model justification for

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<v Speaker 1>them not paying tax? Well, this is in verse right,

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<v Speaker 1>What is the moral justification for anybody paying tax? What's

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<v Speaker 1>the more justification for coursing people, for forcing people into

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<v Speaker 1>paying taxes? Now, corporations don't really exist. They are entities,

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<v Speaker 1>legal entities owned by individuals. Those individuals have already paid

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<v Speaker 1>taxes on the money they used to invest in these corporations.

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<v Speaker 1>Those individuals typically pay taxes on the dividends they get

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<v Speaker 1>from the corporations, and they pay taxes on the capital

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<v Speaker 1>gains that they generate from sale of stock in those corporations.

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<v Speaker 1>So you know, the income of the corporation to the

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<v Speaker 1>extent that they excruise to the individuals involved. As income

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<v Speaker 1>is already is taxed, corporate taxes are in a sense,

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<v Speaker 1>say double taxation. The taxed your tax on your investment

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<v Speaker 1>in the corporation, both at the individual level and at

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<v Speaker 1>the corporate level. How is that fair? How is that right?

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<v Speaker 1>So look, taxation in out of itself curse taxation is

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<v Speaker 1>IMO what the right weight to tax should be. It

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<v Speaker 1>should be determined by if you're going to tax, should

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<v Speaker 1>be determined why, what generates the revenue necessary to fund

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<v Speaker 1>the government and what does so with minimal distortions to

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<v Speaker 1>the economy. A corporate tax is incredibly distortive economically, and

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<v Speaker 1>as I've told you many times, corporations don't pay it.

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<v Speaker 1>It's passed on to mostly to employees who get lower wages,

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<v Speaker 1>and it raises the cost of goods, and maybe a

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<v Speaker 1>fraction of it is paid by shareholders. So in other words,

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<v Speaker 1>it's a hidden sales tax, it's a hidden employment tax.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a double tax on capital and on shareholders. Corporations

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<v Speaker 1>are not, uh should not be taxable entities. Only individuals

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<v Speaker 1>should be taxable entities. Business should not be taxed. Now, again,

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<v Speaker 1>it's not clear what the least destructive tax regime would be.

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<v Speaker 1>Probably a consumption tax would be the least destructive tax regime,

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<v Speaker 1>or a flat no deductions, no deductibles, no nothing, income tax.

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<v Speaker 1>But again that would involve getting rid of corporate taxes

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<v Speaker 1>and everything else. So you know, I'm not sure what

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<v Speaker 1>the faintest argument that says corporations should be taxed owns to.

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<v Speaker 1>Where does it come from? Why should they be taxed

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<v Speaker 1>if it doesn't make economic sense and it's a tax,

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<v Speaker 1>and we're against taxes and taxes unfair and taxes unjust.

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<v Speaker 1>Corporations are producing huge benefits for all of us. We

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<v Speaker 1>trade with them in when when relationships. Why do we

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<v Speaker 1>penalize them for producing the values that are necessary for

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<v Speaker 1>us to survive and to thrive. I mean again, corporations

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<v Speaker 1>produce all the goods that we benefit from. They produce

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<v Speaker 1>the wealth, They produce the stuff that we need to survive.

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<v Speaker 1>You're talking about gas companies. What we do we do

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<v Speaker 1>without gas companies would there'd be no gas? So why

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<v Speaker 1>are we penalizing them for offering us this amazing product

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<v Speaker 1>at relatively cheap prices. Indeed, an incredibly cheap prices given

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<v Speaker 1>the cost of extracting and shipping and producing the gas.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, not your average algorithm fifty dollars, thank you.

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<v Speaker 1>Even if the stockmank comes back, economic dislocation and destruction

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<v Speaker 1>of wealth caused by tariffs will persist for a long time.

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<v Speaker 1>Companies and individuals can't take risks because the investment will

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<v Speaker 1>be ruined at the drop of a hat. Absolutely. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>what Trump has done again is he's basically put the market.

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<v Speaker 1>It's told the market we're going to run things for

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<v Speaker 1>the next four years on whim my whim whatever I

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<v Speaker 1>feel like. And he's told the market I am ignorant

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<v Speaker 1>of economics, and I don't really care. I don't care

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<v Speaker 1>if I'm ignomant of economics. We're just gonna do what

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<v Speaker 1>I think feel is the good thing to do. That

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<v Speaker 1>is how I'm going to run the economy. Well, that

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<v Speaker 1>does not encourage investment. That does not encourage long term planning.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, I might put on tariffs, I might take

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<v Speaker 1>them away if they gravel, I might treat them nicely.

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<v Speaker 1>If they say something I don't like, I might penalize them.

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<v Speaker 1>Think about how he's treated law firms, media companies. He

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<v Speaker 1>is running our economy like I'm off your boss. Does

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<v Speaker 1>not encourage investment. By the way, I wonder what happens

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<v Speaker 1>to Apple with one hundred and twenty five percent tariffs.

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<v Speaker 1>I wonder what's already happened to iPhone prices. So I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know what happens to Apple given these tariffs. It's

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<v Speaker 1>going to be really, really, really interesting. I assume supply

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<v Speaker 1>chain shift. Apple does not input phones from China to

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<v Speaker 1>the United States, but the phones it sells in the

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<v Speaker 1>United States that twice the input from Vietnam and India.

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<v Speaker 1>The Chinese manufactured iPhones are sold everywhere else in the world,

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<v Speaker 1>but not in the United States. I figur it has

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<v Speaker 1>to rejigg it supply chains. That's how it avoids raising

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<v Speaker 1>prices by one hundred and twenty five percent. Now, Apple

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<v Speaker 1>has a healthy profit margin, but not one hundred and

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<v Speaker 1>twenty five percent, So it's going to be interesting. Apple

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<v Speaker 1>would be a good test case, just like the auto

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<v Speaker 1>companies a good text case in terms of the auto tariffs.

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<v Speaker 1>It's going to be really fascinating how supply chains change,

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<v Speaker 1>and again a complete new world order in terms of

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<v Speaker 1>where products are made, how they ship, where they ship to.

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<v Speaker 1>Who protects the shipping lanes. One of things to consider

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<v Speaker 1>is if you can't trust America to defend the shipping lanes,

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<v Speaker 1>would China now have to deploy its navy across the world.

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<v Speaker 1>How will America view China deploying its navy across the world.

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<v Speaker 1>We know Trump is upset because the Chinese and Panama.

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<v Speaker 1>What happens when the Chinese and the Sewiss canal in

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<v Speaker 1>the Red Sea, in the in the in the Indian Ocean,

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<v Speaker 1>all over the Pacific Ocean, they have more boats now

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<v Speaker 1>than the United States navy does what exactly happens? And

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<v Speaker 1>and how can we blame China for trying to protect

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<v Speaker 1>its trade interests by deploying a navy all over the

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<v Speaker 1>world when we won't protect those same trade interests? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I completely agree with you. And now you average algorithm

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<v Speaker 1>the the uncertainty that has been caused by what Trump

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<v Speaker 1>has done is incredibly destructive to the US economy and

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<v Speaker 1>ultimately the stock market. So for the stock market to

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<v Speaker 1>go back to where it was before all this, it

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<v Speaker 1>just doesn't make any sense given what's happened over the

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<v Speaker 1>last few weeks, over the last week, Liam, while Trump

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<v Speaker 1>is a nightmare, the Gramocrats, the Democrats are not a

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<v Speaker 1>meaningful alternative. Their failures make Trump possible, and that puts

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<v Speaker 1>Republicans in a deeply precarious position, clinging to power not

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<v Speaker 1>by merit but by default. Yeah, but you say the

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<v Speaker 1>Democrats are not a meaningful alternative in what sense? In

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<v Speaker 1>spite of Biden's flaws. Biden didn't do anything as destructive

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<v Speaker 1>to the US economy as these towers. As horrible is

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<v Speaker 1>what Biden did, and he did horrible things. Biden did

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<v Speaker 1>do as awful things to the rule of law as

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<v Speaker 1>some of what's happening with the deportations, or what is

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<v Speaker 1>happening with threatening out not threatening executive voters against particular

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<v Speaker 1>law firms. So why are Democrats not an alternative, particularly

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<v Speaker 1>if Democrats can move to the center on economic issues

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<v Speaker 1>and dump the woke di bs I mean, I know

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<v Speaker 1>we hate the Democrats. I agree with you hate the left,

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<v Speaker 1>but at some point you have to vote to the

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<v Speaker 1>less of two evils. And given what Trump has done

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<v Speaker 1>in the first two months, three months, I don't think

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<v Speaker 1>he is the less of two evils. I think he is,

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<v Speaker 1>by far, as I warned you, the greater of two evils.

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<v Speaker 1>He is changing America, changing American politics, changing the American

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<v Speaker 1>system government, changing American's relationship with the world, all for

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<v Speaker 1>the worst in ways that no Democrats could get away with.

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<v Speaker 1>So at this point, would Kamala be better, Yeah, probably,

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<v Speaker 1>less destructive, less damaging. She would have been bad, really

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<v Speaker 1>really really bad, but in a conventional way, in a

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<v Speaker 1>way that's fixable. Trump's evil are not fixable. What he's

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<v Speaker 1>doing right now is not going to be easy. This

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<v Speaker 1>genie is out of the bottle. It's not gonna be

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<v Speaker 1>easy to put it back in. It's not gonna be

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<v Speaker 1>easy to regain trust. It's not gonna be easy to

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<v Speaker 1>reaffirm our commitment to trade now. It is if it

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<v Speaker 1>was somebody like me who came in and just said

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<v Speaker 1>zero talis on the rest of the world, and that

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<v Speaker 1>would be done. I mean, Trump's stuff would be gone,

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<v Speaker 1>but nobody's going to do that. There's no way to

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<v Speaker 1>put back into the bottle. The massive abuse of executive

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<v Speaker 1>order is now again. This is a process that started

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<v Speaker 1>probably with started way back, but was intensified by Bush

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<v Speaker 1>and then Obama and then Trump one and then Biden

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<v Speaker 1>and then Trump two is taking it to a new dimension,

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<v Speaker 1>new level. I mean, just think of the kinds of

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<v Speaker 1>people that Trump is appointed to head out health and

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<v Speaker 1>human services. Kinds of people a Trump is placed at

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<v Speaker 1>the head of the FBI or the Justice Department. This

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<v Speaker 1>is a new low, a new low in American history.

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<v Speaker 1>So you know, Democrats might be well the alternative, but

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<v Speaker 1>again they will cling to power now by mad but

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<v Speaker 1>by default. I think we're into a period where either party,

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<v Speaker 1>whoever wins, is going to be there by default. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't see anybody in the political horizon. I don't see

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<v Speaker 1>anybody in politics today who could win by merit. It's

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<v Speaker 1>all by default, it's all the less of two eagles.

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<v Speaker 1>That's the world in which we live in today. Andrew,

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<v Speaker 1>I agree with you totally on trade. But when Peter

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01:20:39.520 --> 01:20:42.560
<v Speaker 1>Shift says trade deficits are product of the US sickness,

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01:20:43.399 --> 01:20:46.640
<v Speaker 1>a big gunman massively inflated dolla. I find it compelling. Also,

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<v Speaker 1>does he have a point he's against tariffs. No, I

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01:20:51.960 --> 01:20:54.039
<v Speaker 1>don't think he has a point. I really don't. I

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01:20:54.039 --> 01:20:58.760
<v Speaker 1>think he's wrong on this. I think the only deficit

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01:20:58.840 --> 01:21:06.600
<v Speaker 1>that matters is the the government deficit. I don't know

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<v Speaker 1>that the dollar is inflated. You know, if it is,

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01:21:12.600 --> 01:21:14.760
<v Speaker 1>why would they why would the world inflate the value

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<v Speaker 1>of the dollar? Now again, everything's off right now, but uh,

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01:21:21.760 --> 01:21:24.880
<v Speaker 1>you know again, Peter Schiff is excellent and one hundred

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01:21:24.920 --> 01:21:28.520
<v Speaker 1>percent right on tariffs. He's been excellent in attacking Trump

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01:21:28.560 --> 01:21:31.760
<v Speaker 1>on tariffs. He's been very very good on it. I

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01:21:32.000 --> 01:21:39.159
<v Speaker 1>don't buy his idea that that there's there's something inherently

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01:21:39.199 --> 01:21:43.239
<v Speaker 1>wrong with the trade deficit. Now. His argument is we're consuming,

1050
01:21:43.279 --> 01:21:47.319
<v Speaker 1>we're not producing, and what we're what we're using to

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01:21:47.319 --> 01:21:51.199
<v Speaker 1>consume is not production but debt. But the very fact

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01:21:51.239 --> 01:21:54.560
<v Speaker 1>that people are willing to lend to us means that

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01:21:54.680 --> 01:21:56.760
<v Speaker 1>our bankers, in this case, the rest of the world

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01:21:56.840 --> 01:22:03.600
<v Speaker 1>believes that we were produce in the future. So I

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01:22:03.640 --> 01:22:07.800
<v Speaker 1>am I do not think the deficit are sign of weakness.

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01:22:08.199 --> 01:22:10.479
<v Speaker 1>I think there a sign of strength, the sign that

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01:22:10.479 --> 01:22:12.479
<v Speaker 1>the rest of the world wants to hold dollars the

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01:22:12.600 --> 01:22:14.239
<v Speaker 1>sign of the rest of the rest of the world

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01:22:14.279 --> 01:22:18.119
<v Speaker 1>wants to invest in US, borrow, lend us money that

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01:22:18.199 --> 01:22:21.079
<v Speaker 1>the rest of the world believes in the US economy

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01:22:21.119 --> 01:22:24.239
<v Speaker 1>and the ability to produce. Otherwise they wouldn't lend money

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01:22:24.239 --> 01:22:28.640
<v Speaker 1>to us. Now they're losing that quote faith in US.

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01:22:28.960 --> 01:22:31.520
<v Speaker 1>They're losing their trust in US, and you can see

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01:22:31.520 --> 01:22:35.399
<v Speaker 1>that in the bond market right now. And that's a

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01:22:35.439 --> 01:22:43.279
<v Speaker 1>real problem. The real deficit that matters is the government deficit.

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01:22:44.159 --> 01:22:48.680
<v Speaker 1>That's the only deficit that matters. And every piece of

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01:22:49.199 --> 01:22:54.680
<v Speaker 1>energy thought focus needs to be placed in what doge

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01:22:55.560 --> 01:23:01.880
<v Speaker 1>really should be about, which is basically shrinking government, but

1069
01:23:02.039 --> 01:23:05.640
<v Speaker 1>shrinking government in a smart way. Shrinking government about the

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01:23:05.920 --> 01:23:12.520
<v Speaker 1>around the proper role of government, that is, getting rid

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01:23:12.560 --> 01:23:15.279
<v Speaker 1>of those functions of government that government should not be

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<v Speaker 1>engaged in. And I again, I've I've specified many times

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01:23:20.159 --> 01:23:22.760
<v Speaker 1>in the past how I would do that in great detail.

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01:23:23.159 --> 01:23:26.119
<v Speaker 1>I've done my State of the Union one hundred, first

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01:23:26.199 --> 01:23:28.239
<v Speaker 1>hundred days, what I would do in the first hundred days.

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<v Speaker 1>All of that is available, you can look it up,

1077
01:23:31.159 --> 01:23:34.720
<v Speaker 1>and you know, you just cut government systematically and thoroughly,

1078
01:23:34.880 --> 01:23:38.359
<v Speaker 1>and you go after the Medican and you go after security.

1079
01:23:38.920 --> 01:23:44.560
<v Speaker 1>But you start with subsidies and called p taxas and deregulation.

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01:23:44.640 --> 01:23:48.920
<v Speaker 1>You start with business, and then you go to entitlements,

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01:23:49.960 --> 01:23:52.800
<v Speaker 1>uh it and uh and and the last thing you

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01:23:52.840 --> 01:24:02.239
<v Speaker 1>do is cut cut the welfare state. Hop up. The

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01:24:02.279 --> 01:24:04.760
<v Speaker 1>head of the i r S just resigned because Trump's

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01:24:04.760 --> 01:24:09.319
<v Speaker 1>immig immigration thugs want to collect tax tax data on

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01:24:09.439 --> 01:24:13.239
<v Speaker 1>illegal immigrants. He wants to deport people who are working

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01:24:13.279 --> 01:24:16.079
<v Speaker 1>and paying taxes into a system they will never receive

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01:24:16.159 --> 01:24:20.880
<v Speaker 1>benefits from. Yes, but but more than that, you know,

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01:24:20.960 --> 01:24:23.600
<v Speaker 1>one of the one of the principles around the i

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01:24:23.720 --> 01:24:28.279
<v Speaker 1>r S has been in the past that you know,

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01:24:28.359 --> 01:24:33.159
<v Speaker 1>we we don't the government agencies don't share information about

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01:24:33.239 --> 01:24:40.119
<v Speaker 1>individuals across platforms up that you know, and this was

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01:24:40.159 --> 01:24:45.159
<v Speaker 1>the IRS scandal under under Obama, related to using text

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01:24:45.239 --> 01:24:50.960
<v Speaker 1>data to discriminate against conservatives. Well, you know, you're not

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01:24:51.000 --> 01:24:56.399
<v Speaker 1>supposed to be digging into the tax recodes of individuals.

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01:24:58.479 --> 01:25:02.239
<v Speaker 1>But yeah, I mean, and legal immigrants are paying taxes. Now,

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01:25:02.279 --> 01:25:05.119
<v Speaker 1>it's not true that they never see benefits from I mean,

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01:25:05.600 --> 01:25:07.479
<v Speaker 1>as people will point out to you, they drive in

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01:25:07.560 --> 01:25:13.439
<v Speaker 1>the roads, they send a kiss of public schools, They

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01:25:13.600 --> 01:25:17.159
<v Speaker 1>use the infrastructure that this federal government supplies. They benefit

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01:25:17.199 --> 01:25:19.920
<v Speaker 1>from police and military and all the other protections right

1101
01:25:19.960 --> 01:25:28.399
<v Speaker 1>supposedly unless it's ice thugs. But they don't receive so

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01:25:28.520 --> 01:25:33.279
<v Speaker 1>security benefits, and they don't receive Medicare, but everything else

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01:25:33.920 --> 01:25:36.079
<v Speaker 1>they do receive it, and they pay taxes and they work.

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01:25:36.399 --> 01:25:39.960
<v Speaker 1>But the idea of deporting working people is just nuts,

1105
01:25:40.359 --> 01:25:44.039
<v Speaker 1>legally illegal. Who cares they're working for a living. Why

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01:25:44.039 --> 01:25:49.039
<v Speaker 1>are you budding in? That's the rights violation. I mean,

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01:25:49.079 --> 01:25:51.880
<v Speaker 1>I understand the porting people who are leaches on the state,

1108
01:25:52.319 --> 01:25:56.359
<v Speaker 1>who are leaches on their fellow Americans who don't work,

1109
01:25:56.640 --> 01:26:03.600
<v Speaker 1>who are not working, But if they're working, leave them alone.

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01:26:05.840 --> 01:26:08.840
<v Speaker 1>So good for the head of IRS. Good for the

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01:26:08.880 --> 01:26:13.000
<v Speaker 1>head of the IRS for resigning over something like that,

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01:26:13.119 --> 01:26:20.439
<v Speaker 1>for standing on principle, Andy, can you explain treasury bonds

1113
01:26:20.479 --> 01:26:28.520
<v Speaker 1>and yields matter and are concerning? Yeah, So, treasury bonds

1114
01:26:28.520 --> 01:26:32.600
<v Speaker 1>are basically bonds at the US government issues. They sell

1115
01:26:32.640 --> 01:26:35.520
<v Speaker 1>the bonds in the marketplace, and that's how they raise

1116
01:26:35.640 --> 01:26:40.479
<v Speaker 1>money to pay for governed expenditures. Because government spends more

1117
01:26:40.800 --> 01:26:44.359
<v Speaker 1>than the tax revenue that comes in, it needs to

1118
01:26:44.399 --> 01:26:51.079
<v Speaker 1>borrow money from whoever's willing to buy government bonds, treasury bonds.

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01:26:51.119 --> 01:26:53.520
<v Speaker 1>At government bonds, they're just ways to fund the deficit,

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<v Speaker 1>that's all they are, and the government has to pay

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01:26:58.880 --> 01:27:02.079
<v Speaker 1>interest on those bonds, and they have to pay the

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01:27:02.199 --> 01:27:07.880
<v Speaker 1>principle back at the end of at the end of

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<v Speaker 1>the period. Right, could be a one year bond, It

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01:27:09.760 --> 01:27:11.079
<v Speaker 1>could be a five year bond, could be a ten

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01:27:11.159 --> 01:27:13.520
<v Speaker 1>year bond, could be a thirty year bond. The government

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01:27:13.520 --> 01:27:17.680
<v Speaker 1>primarily issued short term three months, six months, one year,

1127
01:27:17.840 --> 01:27:19.640
<v Speaker 1>up to five years, but it does issue ten and

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01:27:19.680 --> 01:27:24.319
<v Speaker 1>thirty year bonds as well. Now, these bonds trade in

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01:27:24.359 --> 01:27:28.479
<v Speaker 1>the marketplace, So I can go now and buy a

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01:27:28.520 --> 01:27:31.159
<v Speaker 1>bond that the government issued a year ago, a five

1131
01:27:31.199 --> 01:27:33.000
<v Speaker 1>year bond the government issued a year ago, and I

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01:27:33.039 --> 01:27:37.800
<v Speaker 1>can go in and buy it today. The price that

1133
01:27:37.880 --> 01:27:40.800
<v Speaker 1>I get, the price that I'm willing to pay for it,

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01:27:42.119 --> 01:27:45.840
<v Speaker 1>will determine my return on the investment. Let's say I

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01:27:45.880 --> 01:27:49.119
<v Speaker 1>pay a thousand dollars. Let's say I'm buying a thousand

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01:27:49.159 --> 01:27:51.680
<v Speaker 1>dollar bond, so I will get one thousand dollars when

1137
01:27:51.680 --> 01:27:54.960
<v Speaker 1>it matures in four years. But if I buy it

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01:27:55.000 --> 01:27:59.520
<v Speaker 1>from nine hundred dollars, I'm going to get the interest

1139
01:27:59.600 --> 01:28:05.760
<v Speaker 1>payment that come in every month, plus the one hundred

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01:28:05.800 --> 01:28:08.520
<v Speaker 1>dollars the difference between nine hundred and one thousand which

1141
01:28:08.560 --> 01:28:12.520
<v Speaker 1>I will get in four years, and that determines the

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01:28:12.640 --> 01:28:16.399
<v Speaker 1>yield on those bonds. That is the return that the

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01:28:16.439 --> 01:28:19.560
<v Speaker 1>price I'm buying it at today implies for the next

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01:28:19.600 --> 01:28:21.199
<v Speaker 1>four years, and if I hold them for four years,

1145
01:28:21.239 --> 01:28:25.319
<v Speaker 1>I'll get exactly that return because the cash flows don't

1146
01:28:25.359 --> 01:28:28.119
<v Speaker 1>change in a bond. The bond says we will pay

1147
01:28:28.199 --> 01:28:32.880
<v Speaker 1>five percent a year on a monthly basis for five years,

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01:28:34.239 --> 01:28:36.119
<v Speaker 1>and we'll pay you one thousand dollars back at the

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01:28:36.199 --> 01:28:44.039
<v Speaker 1>end of those five years. Now, the interst rates that

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01:28:44.079 --> 01:28:48.159
<v Speaker 1>are the yields. The interest rates basically represents the return

1151
01:28:48.319 --> 01:28:51.800
<v Speaker 1>on my investment basically reflect the market's estimate of what

1152
01:28:52.960 --> 01:28:56.960
<v Speaker 1>the risk is in the marketplace and what inflation will

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01:28:57.000 --> 01:28:59.319
<v Speaker 1>be in the future and what chance there is it

1154
01:28:59.359 --> 01:29:03.199
<v Speaker 1>DearS coming too faults and its death. So, for example,

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01:29:04.680 --> 01:29:09.680
<v Speaker 1>in the nineteen seventies and early nineteen eighties, tenure bonds

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01:29:09.720 --> 01:29:14.119
<v Speaker 1>went up to like fifteen sixteen, seventeen percent because of inflation.

1157
01:29:14.199 --> 01:29:16.920
<v Speaker 1>People said, you're gonna pay me a thousand bucks in

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01:29:16.920 --> 01:29:21.079
<v Speaker 1>four years, But inflation is like fifteen percent. I want

1159
01:29:21.079 --> 01:29:23.560
<v Speaker 1>to be compensated for inflation, she's gonna have to give

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01:29:23.600 --> 01:29:28.319
<v Speaker 1>me more than fifteen percent over the next four years,

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01:29:29.119 --> 01:29:31.960
<v Speaker 1>fifteen percent a year over the next fourteen four years.

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01:29:33.279 --> 01:29:36.640
<v Speaker 1>And then if you looked at Greek bonds in the

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01:29:37.239 --> 01:29:41.119
<v Speaker 1>let's say twenty eleven twenty twelve, they were like, I

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01:29:41.159 --> 01:29:43.239
<v Speaker 1>can't remember how how they went, but they went really

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01:29:43.239 --> 01:29:46.640
<v Speaker 1>really I maybe fifty sixty percent. Why because there was

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01:29:46.680 --> 01:29:50.560
<v Speaker 1>a real chance the Greek government will never p pay

1167
01:29:50.600 --> 01:29:55.359
<v Speaker 1>those bonds back. So instead of selling I'll give you

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01:29:55.439 --> 01:29:58.199
<v Speaker 1>nine hundred dollars for getting one thousand in a few years,

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01:29:58.239 --> 01:30:02.000
<v Speaker 1>plus a five percent interest perce now they're selling it

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01:30:02.079 --> 01:30:08.439
<v Speaker 1>maybe one hundred dollars because I'm divining of I'm demanding

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01:30:08.479 --> 01:30:11.600
<v Speaker 1>a very high return because there's a chance I won't

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01:30:11.640 --> 01:30:19.359
<v Speaker 1>get anything. So when yields go up, that is, prices

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01:30:19.399 --> 01:30:24.479
<v Speaker 1>go down. As a price goes down, your return goes up.

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01:30:24.520 --> 01:30:27.039
<v Speaker 1>So if you pay one hundred dollars for one thousand

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01:30:27.119 --> 01:30:30.239
<v Speaker 1>dollars in the future, that return is very high. As

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01:30:30.279 --> 01:30:32.359
<v Speaker 1>compared to nine hundred dollars for one thousand dollars in

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01:30:32.399 --> 01:30:35.840
<v Speaker 1>the future, that return is very low. So price and

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01:30:35.960 --> 01:30:41.760
<v Speaker 1>yield are inversity related and what when interestates go up,

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01:30:42.359 --> 01:30:45.119
<v Speaker 1>that means that people believe this higher risk or higher

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01:30:45.159 --> 01:30:47.720
<v Speaker 1>risk of inflation or high risk of default in the marketplace.

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01:30:48.760 --> 01:30:52.439
<v Speaker 1>And when the tenure bond goes up, mortgage rates go up.

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01:30:53.000 --> 01:30:55.199
<v Speaker 1>A lot of other interest rates in the economy that

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01:30:55.239 --> 01:30:58.399
<v Speaker 1>affect consumers and affect business go up as well, because

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01:30:58.399 --> 01:31:03.680
<v Speaker 1>people use the markets buying and selling a bonds and

1185
01:31:03.720 --> 01:31:09.840
<v Speaker 1>the interest rates implied by them as a signal regarding

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01:31:09.880 --> 01:31:12.880
<v Speaker 1>way interest rates should be and how much to charge

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01:31:12.880 --> 01:31:19.119
<v Speaker 1>for loans over similar length of time. So that is

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01:31:19.159 --> 01:31:22.479
<v Speaker 1>the I think that's the best I can do for

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01:31:22.520 --> 01:31:26.159
<v Speaker 1>a short explanation of those relationships. Take my finance class

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01:31:26.159 --> 01:31:30.680
<v Speaker 1>at ARU to get a more detailed explanation. Randall another

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01:31:30.680 --> 01:31:35.119
<v Speaker 1>one hundred Australian dollars. Thank you, Randall. The argument for

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01:31:35.199 --> 01:31:40.239
<v Speaker 1>hiking taxes from lefties is research shows fifty six percent

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01:31:40.279 --> 01:31:45.159
<v Speaker 1>of gas exports from Australia attract zero royalty payments, effectively

1194
01:31:45.239 --> 01:31:49.520
<v Speaker 1>giving a public resource to multinational gas corporations for free.

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01:31:49.960 --> 01:31:57.039
<v Speaker 1>It's time the gas industry started paying its fair shape.

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01:31:57.880 --> 01:32:01.920
<v Speaker 1>I mean, I don't know if that's exactly true that

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01:32:01.960 --> 01:32:05.960
<v Speaker 1>they pay zero royalties on that. But let's say it

1198
01:32:06.039 --> 01:32:12.279
<v Speaker 1>is true, why should they pay any royalties. The problem

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01:32:12.319 --> 01:32:17.680
<v Speaker 1>here is not that they're not paying royalties. The problem

1200
01:32:17.720 --> 01:32:23.560
<v Speaker 1>here is that somehow natural resources are considered state property

1201
01:32:24.159 --> 01:32:27.439
<v Speaker 1>and that corporations should pay any royalty to the government

1202
01:32:27.520 --> 01:32:34.039
<v Speaker 1>over them. Basically, the natural resources should be owned by

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01:32:34.079 --> 01:32:38.880
<v Speaker 1>the people who produce the natural resources. The oil companies,

1204
01:32:38.880 --> 01:32:44.399
<v Speaker 1>the gas companies. They're the ones drilling, they're the ones extracting,

1205
01:32:45.119 --> 01:32:49.760
<v Speaker 1>they're the ones piping. What is the government doing to

1206
01:32:49.800 --> 01:32:53.039
<v Speaker 1>get its royalty? Now you might say the government owns

1207
01:32:53.079 --> 01:32:56.039
<v Speaker 1>the land. Well, government shouldn't own land. That land should

1208
01:32:56.039 --> 01:33:03.119
<v Speaker 1>be private, and then private entities can negotiate royalties with

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01:33:03.239 --> 01:33:07.199
<v Speaker 1>gas companies. And indeed, what's more likely is the gas

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01:33:07.239 --> 01:33:10.560
<v Speaker 1>company will just buy the land from the land owner

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01:33:11.279 --> 01:33:15.840
<v Speaker 1>and then no royalty isn't needed. The whole system is statused.

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01:33:16.920 --> 01:33:21.159
<v Speaker 1>The whole system is wrong, and it what it ignores

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01:33:22.359 --> 01:33:30.199
<v Speaker 1>is the contribution of the gas company to, you know,

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01:33:31.079 --> 01:33:36.000
<v Speaker 1>making the gas available. Gas is not just there. Somebody

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01:33:36.039 --> 01:33:42.359
<v Speaker 1>has to extract it, and they shouldn't have to pay

1216
01:33:42.359 --> 01:33:46.560
<v Speaker 1>a royalty to a government that's done nothing to generate

1217
01:33:46.560 --> 01:33:49.199
<v Speaker 1>that gas. Now, again, if it was a private property.

1218
01:33:49.520 --> 01:33:54.159
<v Speaker 1>Then a private property owner would have the ability to

1219
01:33:54.399 --> 01:33:56.359
<v Speaker 1>negotiate a deal, the best deal that they could with

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01:33:56.399 --> 01:34:02.880
<v Speaker 1>a gas company. But the government goverment shouldn't own that land. Indeed,

1221
01:34:03.479 --> 01:34:08.520
<v Speaker 1>all the distortions happen because of government so called ownership

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01:34:08.600 --> 01:34:15.319
<v Speaker 1>of land. Land should only be held by private individuals,

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01:34:15.399 --> 01:34:21.840
<v Speaker 1>by private entities. That's where the fundamental challenges and that's

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01:34:21.840 --> 01:34:25.920
<v Speaker 1>why the leftists don't get it, because they think it's

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01:34:26.000 --> 01:34:29.119
<v Speaker 1>owned by the state. But it's not. It can't be

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01:34:29.119 --> 01:34:34.119
<v Speaker 1>owned by the state. The state is not a entity

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01:34:34.159 --> 01:34:36.520
<v Speaker 1>that should own anything. The state is an entity to

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01:34:36.600 --> 01:34:44.680
<v Speaker 1>protect rights. Indeed, all the problems pollution and the so

1229
01:34:44.760 --> 01:34:51.439
<v Speaker 1>called problems of the commons all problems created by having commons,

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01:34:51.920 --> 01:34:56.600
<v Speaker 1>that is, having state ownership rather than all these problems

1231
01:34:56.680 --> 01:35:01.239
<v Speaker 1>go away once you privatize the commons, the so called commons.

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01:35:05.880 --> 01:35:08.800
<v Speaker 1>That dudeo Bandi. Even though the Enlightenment is much stronger

1233
01:35:08.800 --> 01:35:11.600
<v Speaker 1>in the US and Europe, we have John Dewey, which

1234
01:35:11.640 --> 01:35:15.199
<v Speaker 1>makes us dumber and more emotional than Europeans. Could this

1235
01:35:15.319 --> 01:35:20.279
<v Speaker 1>make fascism more susceptible to spending here than in Europe?

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01:35:20.560 --> 01:35:23.760
<v Speaker 1>I mean, it's hard to tell well where it will spread.

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<v Speaker 1>More easily in the past. That Europe has been more

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<v Speaker 1>susceptible because Europe is dramatically more collectivistic than the US.

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<v Speaker 1>As the US is now becoming more tribal, partially because

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<v Speaker 1>of John Dewey, that is changing. Its advantage was always

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01:35:41.720 --> 01:35:47.079
<v Speaker 1>its individualism, but its individualism is in decline, and that

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<v Speaker 1>is making it far more susceptible to fascism now. Whether

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<v Speaker 1>more so or less so than Europe is very hard

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<v Speaker 1>to tell at this point. Part of Europe's resistance of

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01:35:59.039 --> 01:36:03.239
<v Speaker 1>fascism is the fact that they have firsthand experience with it.

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01:36:04.039 --> 01:36:08.720
<v Speaker 1>They know their history and have rejected it. Americans don't

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<v Speaker 1>know history and have never had the experience firsthand, and

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<v Speaker 1>therefore much likely to embrace it out of a certain ignorance.

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<v Speaker 1>Mary Elleen a relative. A relative owns a successful beauty salon.

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01:36:31.039 --> 01:36:34.319
<v Speaker 1>She knows tais will increase their costs, but says she

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01:36:34.399 --> 01:36:39.800
<v Speaker 1>shouldn't want. We shouldn't want instant gratification. We will eventually

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<v Speaker 1>become the powerful country we used to be. She's deeply religious. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean this is faith. How are we going to

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<v Speaker 1>become a powerful country? How is that going to happen?

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01:36:53.159 --> 01:36:56.319
<v Speaker 1>What's a mechanism by which that happens. They have no idea,

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<v Speaker 1>no idea. Basically believes it because Trump said it. She

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<v Speaker 1>believes it because she heard it on Fox. She believes

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01:37:05.720 --> 01:37:10.279
<v Speaker 1>it because she wants to believe it. But there's no

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01:37:10.319 --> 01:37:13.760
<v Speaker 1>economic reality. The reality is the tariffs make us weaker,

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01:37:15.479 --> 01:37:20.399
<v Speaker 1>make us poorer, make us less powerful. America's far less

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01:37:20.439 --> 01:37:25.840
<v Speaker 1>powerful today than it was three months ago because of

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01:37:25.880 --> 01:37:28.760
<v Speaker 1>what Trump's done over the last three months, including the tariffs.

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<v Speaker 1>So religious mentality is an epistemologically authoritarian mentality, which makes

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01:37:39.840 --> 01:37:43.560
<v Speaker 1>it susceptible to taking on faith what somebody like Donald

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<v Speaker 1>Trump says. But that's all she has. She has no

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01:37:46.760 --> 01:37:49.319
<v Speaker 1>ability to articulate how this is going to make America

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<v Speaker 1>more powerful. Harper, the tariff freederick strikes me as the

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01:37:55.359 --> 01:38:00.560
<v Speaker 1>same pitch as utopian communism. The initial slave is just

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01:38:00.640 --> 01:38:04.079
<v Speaker 1>transitional period. We have to go through. The old structures

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<v Speaker 1>have to be torn down to make way for the

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<v Speaker 1>paradise to come. Yeah, I mean there's a sense in

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01:38:08.199 --> 01:38:12.359
<v Speaker 1>which that's true. The the communists are more idealistic. They

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01:38:12.359 --> 01:38:16.840
<v Speaker 1>have a clearer picture of where they're heading this, but

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01:38:16.920 --> 01:38:25.159
<v Speaker 1>this is this is typical statists. You know, trust the authorities.

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01:38:25.640 --> 01:38:28.600
<v Speaker 1>They know what they're doing. And yes, there's gonna be

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01:38:28.640 --> 01:38:31.680
<v Speaker 1>a purvoiti of pain, but there's a wonderful outcome on

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<v Speaker 1>the other side. Just go with it. Just trust them,

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01:38:35.039 --> 01:38:40.560
<v Speaker 1>just believe. And that's communism and it's Christianity, and it's

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01:38:40.760 --> 01:38:44.000
<v Speaker 1>because it's Christianity, right, Just suck it up in this world.

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01:38:44.279 --> 01:38:47.840
<v Speaker 1>This world sucks, You're gonna suffer, you're gonna sacrifice, but

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01:38:47.880 --> 01:38:51.319
<v Speaker 1>it's okay. There's a utopia at the other side of death.

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01:38:51.800 --> 01:38:59.279
<v Speaker 1>So just hang around. Everything's gonna get better, and you

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01:38:59.279 --> 01:39:05.520
<v Speaker 1>know Trump will fix it, so it don't worry, Michael.

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<v Speaker 1>Will Trump settled down for the remainder of his term.

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01:39:08.279 --> 01:39:10.279
<v Speaker 1>It seems like a few adults have entered the room.

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01:39:10.840 --> 01:39:14.079
<v Speaker 1>If not, is there a chance he can be impeached

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<v Speaker 1>in twenty twenty six when the Democrats take both House

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01:39:17.039 --> 01:39:21.439
<v Speaker 1>and Senate. No, I gets no sense that there are

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<v Speaker 1>any adults in the room, not in any systemic way.

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<v Speaker 1>It's true that I think Elon Musk gets trade in

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01:39:28.239 --> 01:39:32.800
<v Speaker 1>a way that Navara does not, and the power between

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01:39:32.800 --> 01:39:36.399
<v Speaker 1>those two might shift over time and might alternate from

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01:39:36.520 --> 01:39:38.880
<v Speaker 1>day to day, as we saw in the last few days,

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<v Speaker 1>and it might be that Trump throws Navara bone and

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01:39:41.640 --> 01:39:44.640
<v Speaker 1>throws Trump throws the Elone musket bone to keep them

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<v Speaker 1>somehow in balance. But I don't see any adults in

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<v Speaker 1>the room, because while Elon Musk might be okay on Tariff's,

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01:39:50.800 --> 01:39:56.600
<v Speaker 1>he's terrible in other things and feeds the worst elements

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<v Speaker 1>within Trump. So I I don't know any adults in

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01:40:01.239 --> 01:40:05.600
<v Speaker 1>that room. We thought Bessett was an adult, but based

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<v Speaker 1>on what he says on television, he is a complete sello.

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<v Speaker 1>So I don't think there are any adults. I think

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01:40:12.600 --> 01:40:17.119
<v Speaker 1>it's just the Trump panicked because the markets are panicking,

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01:40:17.319 --> 01:40:21.199
<v Speaker 1>particularly the bond market, So I don't consider that adult.

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01:40:22.079 --> 01:40:23.680
<v Speaker 1>I mean the adults in the bond market. There are

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01:40:23.680 --> 01:40:26.119
<v Speaker 1>adults in the stock market, but not in the Trump administration.

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<v Speaker 1>Will he settle down, I don't know. He might just

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01:40:30.079 --> 01:40:35.000
<v Speaker 1>because you'll run out of energy, you know, the inotia

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01:40:35.560 --> 01:40:40.439
<v Speaker 1>will dissipate. Congress is already unbelievably slow, and that might

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01:40:40.520 --> 01:40:44.680
<v Speaker 1>slow him down. Will he be impeached? No, nobody's going

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01:40:44.760 --> 01:40:49.239
<v Speaker 1>to impeach him. I mean, you'd need significant Republican support,

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01:40:49.319 --> 01:40:51.960
<v Speaker 1>you need two thirds in the Senate. It ain't happening,

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<v Speaker 1>and if it does, what do we get? JD Van's no,

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01:40:54.720 --> 01:40:58.800
<v Speaker 1>thank you, no thank you. I'll take Trump over Jdvans.

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01:41:00.399 --> 01:41:04.840
<v Speaker 1>Jdvans would being a lot more methodological in his nationalism

1316
01:41:05.119 --> 01:41:09.800
<v Speaker 1>and his authoritarianism than Trump is. Trump is all over

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01:41:09.800 --> 01:41:17.680
<v Speaker 1>the place, and that's good fuss in some sense, Jennifer.

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01:41:17.920 --> 01:41:20.159
<v Speaker 1>If someone is married to and stays married to a

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01:41:20.159 --> 01:41:23.479
<v Speaker 1>horrble person, is it legitimate to criticize them for that?

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01:41:24.039 --> 01:41:26.520
<v Speaker 1>Or maybe they're afraid to leave and more information is

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01:41:26.560 --> 01:41:28.960
<v Speaker 1>needed to judge them. Yeah, I mean, I think you

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01:41:29.000 --> 01:41:35.199
<v Speaker 1>need to be careful about judging somebody's intimate personal relationships.

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<v Speaker 1>You don't know what's going on behind closed doors. You

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01:41:41.840 --> 01:41:45.079
<v Speaker 1>don't know what the psychologic getting out of that other person.

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's very tricky to judge, you know, assuming

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01:41:54.159 --> 01:41:58.399
<v Speaker 1>the person is all there and is capable of making

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01:41:58.439 --> 01:42:04.399
<v Speaker 1>those judgments for themselves. I mean, you can bring it up,

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01:42:04.520 --> 01:42:07.000
<v Speaker 1>you can criticize, but I think you have to be

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01:42:07.039 --> 01:42:10.279
<v Speaker 1>cautious and you have to be willing to walk away

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01:42:10.680 --> 01:42:12.840
<v Speaker 1>and just accept that this is a choice that they've

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01:42:12.880 --> 01:42:17.399
<v Speaker 1>made and that you don't know. You don't understand because

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01:42:17.439 --> 01:42:22.000
<v Speaker 1>we only you know. Relationships are tricky things. The very

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<v Speaker 1>intimate things, and we don't have the kind of information

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01:42:24.760 --> 01:42:29.800
<v Speaker 1>we would need to really with full context, make a judgment.

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01:42:34.920 --> 01:42:43.399
<v Speaker 1>Jonathan Jonathanas says, God, make this tariff madness stop. Jonathan's

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<v Speaker 1>still in the markets. I don't know. I'm glad my

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01:42:47.039 --> 01:42:50.439
<v Speaker 1>hedge fund is closed. I don't know how I would

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01:42:50.479 --> 01:42:54.239
<v Speaker 1>deal with what's going on right now in the markets. God, yes,

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01:42:55.000 --> 01:42:57.920
<v Speaker 1>it would be nice if it stopped. But then what

1340
01:42:57.920 --> 01:43:02.119
<v Speaker 1>where's the next madness coming from? We know madness is

1341
01:43:02.159 --> 01:43:04.960
<v Speaker 1>in the cards because we've got a mad man running

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01:43:04.960 --> 01:43:11.479
<v Speaker 1>this country, Literally, a madman running the country. Liam says

1343
01:43:11.640 --> 01:43:14.239
<v Speaker 1>Trump is more of a fluke than a tsunami. Americans

1344
01:43:14.279 --> 01:43:17.560
<v Speaker 1>already can't stand him. MAGA snuck into power due to

1345
01:43:17.560 --> 01:43:20.680
<v Speaker 1>the incompetence of Democrats in twenty twenty eight. The phenomena

1346
01:43:20.760 --> 01:43:26.239
<v Speaker 1>is gone. You know, I'm not convinced they didn't. Just

1347
01:43:27.000 --> 01:43:30.319
<v Speaker 1>you know, remember MAGA also snuck in the power because

1348
01:43:30.319 --> 01:43:33.279
<v Speaker 1>of the incombinants of Republicans. They're the ones who had

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01:43:33.279 --> 01:43:36.960
<v Speaker 1>a primary and elected Trump to be the representative. They're

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01:43:37.079 --> 01:43:42.760
<v Speaker 1>enough Republican crazies, They're enough Democrats crazies to keep us

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01:43:42.800 --> 01:43:46.840
<v Speaker 1>on our toes, to keep craziness in our politics for

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01:43:46.920 --> 01:43:50.800
<v Speaker 1>a long time to come. So maybe this particular manifestation

1353
01:43:50.840 --> 01:43:53.960
<v Speaker 1>Omega goes away. The phenomena is not going to go away.

1354
01:43:53.960 --> 01:43:57.399
<v Speaker 1>The phenomena will only expand and grow because there is

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01:43:57.439 --> 01:44:01.000
<v Speaker 1>no alternative to it. What is the alternative? What is

1356
01:44:01.000 --> 01:44:07.199
<v Speaker 1>the alternative? Boring centrism, that's not an alternative. What excites,

1357
01:44:07.920 --> 01:44:11.399
<v Speaker 1>what's going to get people motivated? There's just no alternative.

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01:44:11.399 --> 01:44:16.800
<v Speaker 1>What we need is an exciting pro freedom movement, but

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01:44:16.840 --> 01:44:24.600
<v Speaker 1>we don't have that. We just don't have that. Islam Ali,

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01:44:24.920 --> 01:44:28.039
<v Speaker 1>Argentina had to enter a recession to heal the economy,

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<v Speaker 1>but America does not. Can you explain the difference here, Well,

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01:44:33.079 --> 01:44:39.960
<v Speaker 1>Argentina didn't have to enter a recession to heal its economy.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean you mean by what Milay did. Yes, but

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01:44:48.800 --> 01:44:51.159
<v Speaker 1>it was noticed it was a very short recession. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not sure Argentina ever made it to to a session

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01:44:53.680 --> 01:44:57.279
<v Speaker 1>under Melae as Argentina being in a recession since Mille

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01:44:57.439 --> 01:45:03.239
<v Speaker 1>was there. I don't think that's true technically, So no,

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01:45:03.479 --> 01:45:05.760
<v Speaker 1>I don't think you have to go into recession. I

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01:45:05.760 --> 01:45:08.760
<v Speaker 1>don't think Argentina went into recession during me La. I

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01:45:08.800 --> 01:45:11.520
<v Speaker 1>mean and if it did it, it was very very short.

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<v Speaker 1>So what you need is a period of readjustment. What

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01:45:18.399 --> 01:45:23.279
<v Speaker 1>you need is a period of restructuring investments, and that

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01:45:23.319 --> 01:45:28.680
<v Speaker 1>would happen when the government starts really cutting subsidies, cutting spending,

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01:45:29.359 --> 01:45:34.680
<v Speaker 1>cutting programs, cutting whole departments. Then you're going to get

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01:45:34.720 --> 01:45:39.600
<v Speaker 1>a reallocation of resources, and that will result in disruptions

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01:45:40.239 --> 01:45:43.720
<v Speaker 1>that will result in some people, in people losing their jobs,

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01:45:43.760 --> 01:45:48.680
<v Speaker 1>having to move investments, some investments losing money because they

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01:45:48.680 --> 01:45:52.840
<v Speaker 1>were based on subsidies, and the capital flowing into other investments.

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<v Speaker 1>So you will be there. You will have this locations

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01:45:58.159 --> 01:46:03.880
<v Speaker 1>and maybe that involves as But the recession we're talking

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01:46:03.880 --> 01:46:08.159
<v Speaker 1>about causing in the United States is being caused by tariffs,

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<v Speaker 1>and there is just no need for tariffs. In other words,

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01:46:14.680 --> 01:46:19.520
<v Speaker 1>you're not going to fix the US economy by raising taxes.

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01:46:21.359 --> 01:46:23.920
<v Speaker 1>You need to fix the US economy by cutting spending.

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01:46:25.800 --> 01:46:29.800
<v Speaker 1>But Trump is choosing to fix the American economy by

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01:46:29.880 --> 01:46:33.720
<v Speaker 1>raising taxes. That's an impossibility, and therefore you won't fix

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01:46:33.760 --> 01:46:36.560
<v Speaker 1>the economy. He'll just drive it into a session. Nothing

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01:46:36.560 --> 01:46:40.239
<v Speaker 1>good will come of it. Businesses will go out of business,

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<v Speaker 1>not the right businesses will go out of business. The

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<v Speaker 1>businesses that go out of business because of taxes because

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01:46:49.119 --> 01:46:52.800
<v Speaker 1>of tariffs, which are taxes, are different than the kind

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01:46:52.840 --> 01:46:55.600
<v Speaker 1>of businesses that would go out of business if you

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01:46:56.680 --> 01:47:01.239
<v Speaker 1>cut dramatically gum and spending. So it would be a

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01:47:01.239 --> 01:47:04.560
<v Speaker 1>completely different type of restructuring, a completely different type of

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01:47:04.640 --> 01:47:10.399
<v Speaker 1>recession if government's cutting spending even leads to recession. So no,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think you have to go into a recession. Plus,

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<v Speaker 1>whatever changes we have to do in America to get

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<v Speaker 1>it healthy are far smaller than the changes that Argentina

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<v Speaker 1>had to do. Argentina had to go through much more

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<v Speaker 1>radical surgery, and in both cases, in all cases, no,

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01:47:31.000 --> 01:47:36.000
<v Speaker 1>I mean raising taxes to the extent that Trump wants

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01:47:36.039 --> 01:47:40.199
<v Speaker 1>to do is inappropriate as a way of trying to

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01:47:40.319 --> 01:47:44.119
<v Speaker 1>quote fix the economy. Opposite. Ultimately, you want to get

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01:47:44.119 --> 01:47:47.680
<v Speaker 1>to a place where because you've cut spending, you can

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01:47:47.720 --> 01:47:58.880
<v Speaker 1>cut taxes, but only after you cut spending. SAYO, do

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01:47:58.920 --> 01:48:02.000
<v Speaker 1>you think Milay example might have inspire Trump to take

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01:48:02.119 --> 01:48:06.600
<v Speaker 1>more drastic action hoping for similar long term results. I

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01:48:06.600 --> 01:48:11.000
<v Speaker 1>don't understand what drastic action Trump is doing that could

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01:48:11.039 --> 01:48:16.159
<v Speaker 1>be inspired by Malay. Trump is the opposite of me.

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01:48:16.239 --> 01:48:23.359
<v Speaker 1>Lay he's increasing government power, is increasing government control, and

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01:48:23.399 --> 01:48:33.760
<v Speaker 1>he's dramatically raising taxes. So he's not being inspired by Milay.

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01:48:33.840 --> 01:48:36.319
<v Speaker 1>He's the counter. Melay is the opposite of me. Lay.

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01:48:40.159 --> 01:48:45.119
<v Speaker 1>Melay was really radical. Melay has taken really drastic actions,

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01:48:46.039 --> 01:48:52.840
<v Speaker 1>drastic action towards more freedom, whereas Trump is taking drastic

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01:48:52.920 --> 01:48:59.000
<v Speaker 1>action towards less freedom, more statism. Trump is a statist.

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01:48:59.439 --> 01:49:02.680
<v Speaker 1>Melay is a free market, at least as much of

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<v Speaker 1>a free market as anybody is in this world. Right now, KAO,

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<v Speaker 1>did you hear launch one PM of Singapore Prime Minister

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<v Speaker 1>of Singapore speech. Yes, it was very good. I mean,

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01:49:19.640 --> 01:49:24.800
<v Speaker 1>he defended free trade, he defended markets, and he called

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01:49:25.279 --> 01:49:28.359
<v Speaker 1>Trump's tarifs what they are. I can't remember the exact

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01:49:28.399 --> 01:49:33.359
<v Speaker 1>words he used, but it was quite good. Not Javis jaga.

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01:49:34.239 --> 01:49:36.239
<v Speaker 1>What did the Fall Left and MEGA have in common?

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01:49:36.680 --> 01:49:40.560
<v Speaker 1>Almost everything? The idea that the future good of all

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01:49:40.680 --> 01:49:45.079
<v Speaker 1>requires the destruction in the present, that's part of it.

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<v Speaker 1>They have in common a a really tolerance for any

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<v Speaker 1>ideas that are different than theirs. They have in common

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<v Speaker 1>the willingness to use the state to impose their will

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01:50:03.680 --> 01:50:09.119
<v Speaker 1>on other people, having common and complete ignorance of economics

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<v Speaker 1>then to be common and complete ignorance of what America is,

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01:50:13.720 --> 01:50:17.319
<v Speaker 1>what it stands for, what it represents, what it's founded on,

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01:50:18.119 --> 01:50:21.359
<v Speaker 1>complete ignorance of the Constitution, complete ignorance of the Declaration.

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<v Speaker 1>They have in common, a real racist thread in both.

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<v Speaker 1>So they have a lot income. That's why it's become popular.

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<v Speaker 1>And I call woke right because yeah, they behave like

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<v Speaker 1>the wolk left. James, does all malevolent behavior come from

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<v Speaker 1>low self esteem? I don't know. I think so, but

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know. I'm not a psychologist, so I'm sure

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<v Speaker 1>there are other causes that I can't think of. Right now.

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01:51:06.800 --> 01:51:09.720
<v Speaker 1>There's a Turk dichotomy. The market rebound is cold comfort.

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01:51:09.760 --> 01:51:13.199
<v Speaker 1>Trump is holding the US world hostage. He should get

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01:51:13.279 --> 01:51:17.760
<v Speaker 1>no credit or praise. It's not even full rebound. It's madness. Yeah,

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01:51:17.800 --> 01:51:19.840
<v Speaker 1>I mean, you wouldn't expect a full rebound, and it

1444
01:51:19.920 --> 01:51:23.079
<v Speaker 1>might still go up tomorrow, but he should get no

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01:51:23.199 --> 01:51:26.399
<v Speaker 1>credit of praise because he caused the decline to begin with,

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01:51:27.000 --> 01:51:30.520
<v Speaker 1>and it's and he still placed ten percent tariffs on

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01:51:30.560 --> 01:51:36.600
<v Speaker 1>the world, which is not good. There's there's just nothing

1448
01:51:36.640 --> 01:51:41.319
<v Speaker 1>good is coming up of this nothing. So I'm glad,

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01:51:41.359 --> 01:51:47.960
<v Speaker 1>he paused the tariffs, he paused, but he hasn't paused

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01:51:48.000 --> 01:51:53.479
<v Speaker 1>the madness, and he can't because he is the madness.

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01:51:54.479 --> 01:51:57.479
<v Speaker 1>He hasn't paused on Suddinty because he is done. Certainty,

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01:52:00.000 --> 01:52:02.680
<v Speaker 1>Aimes says, if we do collapse into pure fascism, I

1453
01:52:02.840 --> 01:52:08.840
<v Speaker 1>don't suspect it will last long. I hope not. I

1454
01:52:08.880 --> 01:52:12.479
<v Speaker 1>hope not. It's very hard to tell. It's very hard

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01:52:12.520 --> 01:52:16.279
<v Speaker 1>to tell how people align and what forces align against.

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01:52:16.279 --> 01:52:21.960
<v Speaker 1>It is going to be interesting, Doug. Is Trump making

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01:52:22.000 --> 01:52:27.279
<v Speaker 1>the world more selfish, for instance, Europe pivot to defend itself. No,

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01:52:27.319 --> 01:52:31.199
<v Speaker 1>I don't think so. I mean, maybe what Trump is

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01:52:31.199 --> 01:52:33.720
<v Speaker 1>doing is good for Europe in the long run because

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01:52:33.720 --> 01:52:37.319
<v Speaker 1>it's forcing them to be accountable to themselves. But I

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01:52:37.359 --> 01:52:39.600
<v Speaker 1>don't think that is going to be true of other

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01:52:39.640 --> 01:52:43.239
<v Speaker 1>countries and other places. And I think that it's emboldening

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01:52:43.239 --> 01:52:46.319
<v Speaker 1>the bad guys. So at the same time, it's emboldening China,

1464
01:52:46.359 --> 01:52:50.560
<v Speaker 1>it's emboldening Russia, it's emboldening Iran, North Korea. So I

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01:52:51.279 --> 01:52:55.520
<v Speaker 1>think on net No, I mean, it's not making the

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01:52:55.520 --> 01:52:58.640
<v Speaker 1>world more selfish, even if it is good ultimately for

1467
01:52:58.680 --> 01:53:01.800
<v Speaker 1>Europe in the sense that they become more responsible for

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01:53:01.840 --> 01:53:08.199
<v Speaker 1>their own future unless dependent in the United States. Michael,

1469
01:53:08.439 --> 01:53:11.000
<v Speaker 1>you said an irrational mind as an inconsistent mind. But

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01:53:11.039 --> 01:53:15.600
<v Speaker 1>the Nazis were very consistent while being extremely irrational and mystical.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, I don't know that they were consistent. I

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01:53:17.840 --> 01:53:20.479
<v Speaker 1>don't know what that means exactly in the context of

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01:53:20.479 --> 01:53:24.680
<v Speaker 1>the Nazis. What was consistent about them? That they hated Jews? Okay,

1474
01:53:25.600 --> 01:53:29.439
<v Speaker 1>But was their economic policy consistent? No, I don't think so.

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01:53:29.840 --> 01:53:37.239
<v Speaker 1>Was their military strategy consistent? No, I don't think so. Yeah,

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01:53:37.319 --> 01:53:41.319
<v Speaker 1>I don't know what exactly was consistent about the Nazis.

1477
01:53:43.279 --> 01:53:48.880
<v Speaker 1>Country first, state first, the party first, sure, but beyond that,

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01:53:49.840 --> 01:53:56.600
<v Speaker 1>I just don't know. An irrational mind is detached from

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01:53:56.600 --> 01:54:11.720
<v Speaker 1>what may allows consistency, which is reality. All right, let's see, Jonathan,

1480
01:54:12.399 --> 01:54:17.840
<v Speaker 1>how many futures did ron Vera buy before the announcement?

1481
01:54:18.039 --> 01:54:22.520
<v Speaker 1>Just unfair manipulation? Yeah, I mean Donald Trump actually tweeted

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01:54:22.920 --> 01:54:27.840
<v Speaker 1>this morning something like I had I had it here,

1483
01:54:27.880 --> 01:54:31.560
<v Speaker 1>but I deleted it. Now's the best time to buy,

1484
01:54:32.359 --> 01:54:35.399
<v Speaker 1>like a few hours before he made the announcement that

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01:54:36.800 --> 01:54:41.880
<v Speaker 1>he was going to let me just let's see if

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01:54:41.920 --> 01:54:45.680
<v Speaker 1>I can find this. Where is the quote? Yeah, I

1487
01:54:45.680 --> 01:54:47.800
<v Speaker 1>don't have it, but just a few hours before he

1488
01:54:47.880 --> 01:54:53.039
<v Speaker 1>made the announcement that he was pausing. So how many

1489
01:54:53.039 --> 01:55:03.600
<v Speaker 1>people indeed bought on the inside of knowledge and did

1490
01:55:03.600 --> 01:55:10.560
<v Speaker 1>Trump didn't follow, did others. It could very well be

1491
01:55:12.399 --> 01:55:15.399
<v Speaker 1>real manipulation, although I don't think it's the reason for it.

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01:55:15.439 --> 01:55:19.199
<v Speaker 1>I think, well, if you're gonna, if you're gonna change,

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01:55:19.239 --> 01:55:20.760
<v Speaker 1>and you get a pause, I might as well buy

1494
01:55:20.760 --> 01:55:23.239
<v Speaker 1>some stock. Just give me a couple of hours to

1495
01:55:23.239 --> 01:55:29.239
<v Speaker 1>get my broker and everything aligned. Richard, I think that

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01:55:29.359 --> 01:55:32.960
<v Speaker 1>Democrats are in denial about how poor Kamala Harris was

1497
01:55:33.359 --> 01:55:36.279
<v Speaker 1>as a candidate. They don't admit their mistakes like Trump

1498
01:55:36.279 --> 01:55:39.000
<v Speaker 1>would admit his. Yeah, I think that's right, although I'm

1499
01:55:39.039 --> 01:55:43.319
<v Speaker 1>sure inside the Democratic Party there's a lot of discussion

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01:55:43.359 --> 01:55:46.960
<v Speaker 1>of that. And you can see already the different Democrats

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01:55:50.359 --> 01:55:56.840
<v Speaker 1>aligning themselves, you know, with running. So you're seeing the

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01:55:56.880 --> 01:56:06.039
<v Speaker 1>governor of California, you know, we basically changes views on

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01:56:06.119 --> 01:56:09.920
<v Speaker 1>all of the woke stuff and moderating. Jared Polis, the

1504
01:56:09.960 --> 01:56:13.159
<v Speaker 1>governor of Colorado, has been very very good on tariffs

1505
01:56:13.760 --> 01:56:17.600
<v Speaker 1>and good and some economic freedom issues and clearly is

1506
01:56:17.640 --> 01:56:23.359
<v Speaker 1>positioning himself as the kind of moderate centrist pro market

1507
01:56:23.560 --> 01:56:32.520
<v Speaker 1>relatively speaking candidate, So I think Democrats are going to

1508
01:56:32.560 --> 01:56:35.960
<v Speaker 1>look for somebody a lot stronger than Kamala when the

1509
01:56:36.039 --> 01:56:40.720
<v Speaker 1>time comes to twenty twenty eight. Michael, I'm hoping some

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01:56:40.840 --> 01:56:46.279
<v Speaker 1>major deregulation will offset some ridiculous tariffs. But I suspect

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01:56:46.359 --> 01:56:49.840
<v Speaker 1>Trump's fascist advisors are not crazy about deregulation. A lot

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01:56:49.880 --> 01:56:52.199
<v Speaker 1>of them are not. So it's going to be interesting

1513
01:56:52.239 --> 01:56:55.680
<v Speaker 1>to see what deregulation we get and where we'll get it.

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01:56:55.760 --> 01:56:59.680
<v Speaker 1>Where Maga is behind it, like an energy and environmentalism.

1515
01:57:00.119 --> 01:57:03.720
<v Speaker 1>I'm not sure if we'll get it elsewhere, but I

1516
01:57:03.720 --> 01:57:06.439
<v Speaker 1>do think we'll get it there. But yeah, it's still

1517
01:57:06.520 --> 01:57:09.920
<v Speaker 1>to be done. Clark, did Jamie Diamond and Elon Musk

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01:57:10.000 --> 01:57:14.199
<v Speaker 1>cornered Trump and make him daw back these tariffs? I

1519
01:57:14.239 --> 01:57:16.920
<v Speaker 1>don't know if Jamie Diamond has any inward Trump. I

1520
01:57:17.239 --> 01:57:20.960
<v Speaker 1>don't know. Elon Musk spent the whole weekend talking against

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01:57:21.039 --> 01:57:25.520
<v Speaker 1>the tariffs and against Navarro. It's possible that he cornered him,

1522
01:57:26.159 --> 01:57:28.840
<v Speaker 1>but hard to tell. I mean, Elon Musk was losing

1523
01:57:28.960 --> 01:57:31.479
<v Speaker 1>hundreds of billions of dollars or tens of billions of

1524
01:57:31.479 --> 01:57:36.279
<v Speaker 1>dollars of his wealth on a daily basis. Michael, do

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01:57:36.359 --> 01:57:40.279
<v Speaker 1>you think much of the justification for nihilism or being

1526
01:57:40.319 --> 01:57:44.239
<v Speaker 1>destructive is the feeling the world screwed me in some way. Yeah,

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01:57:44.800 --> 01:57:48.119
<v Speaker 1>it's some sense of which I don't belong in this world.

1528
01:57:48.520 --> 01:57:51.279
<v Speaker 1>I'm not suited for this world. The world is somehow

1529
01:57:51.319 --> 01:57:56.840
<v Speaker 1>against me. It screwed me in some deep way, and yeah,

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01:57:57.399 --> 01:57:59.960
<v Speaker 1>I'm going to screw it back. So yes, I think

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01:58:00.039 --> 01:58:06.439
<v Speaker 1>there's something there, TOUI kind of the Tui attitude. Trevor says,

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01:58:06.439 --> 01:58:08.520
<v Speaker 1>what a time to be alive? Indeed, what a time?

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01:58:11.319 --> 01:58:15.119
<v Speaker 1>All right? Uh, these tariffs are crime. Yes, this is

1534
01:58:15.159 --> 01:58:18.039
<v Speaker 1>a crime against American people. This is theft, this is

1535
01:58:18.119 --> 01:58:20.880
<v Speaker 1>stealing our wealth. Trump is evil. I agree with all

1536
01:58:20.920 --> 01:58:26.760
<v Speaker 1>of that, Clark. Most voters do not vote for trade war.

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01:58:27.199 --> 01:58:31.319
<v Speaker 1>Republicans were expecting some tariffs, but not this monstrosity. The

1538
01:58:31.399 --> 01:58:35.039
<v Speaker 1>MAGA movement is over a transient moment of raised and confusion.

1539
01:58:37.159 --> 01:58:42.800
<v Speaker 1>I hope you're right. I hope you're right. We will

1540
01:58:42.800 --> 01:58:51.079
<v Speaker 1>see we will see super cask the conservative agenda make

1541
01:58:51.199 --> 01:58:55.079
<v Speaker 1>us poor, so we'll worship God and be dependent on

1542
01:58:55.159 --> 01:58:59.520
<v Speaker 1>religion and family. Yeah, stop being so materialistic. All this wealth.

1543
01:59:00.520 --> 01:59:03.720
<v Speaker 1>We're anti left, but we're anti wealth. As well, we're

1544
01:59:03.760 --> 01:59:12.039
<v Speaker 1>anti capitalism, we're anti freedom. Yeah, I think that's an attitude, Michael.

1545
01:59:12.079 --> 01:59:14.680
<v Speaker 1>What Israeli's think of Trump? I mean they still love

1546
01:59:14.760 --> 01:59:17.560
<v Speaker 1>him because they think that he is pro Israel and

1547
01:59:17.560 --> 01:59:24.079
<v Speaker 1>will stay pro Israel. So I think he's Israeli. Still,

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01:59:24.479 --> 01:59:27.039
<v Speaker 1>he probably gets more support among Israelis than he does

1549
01:59:27.560 --> 01:59:32.000
<v Speaker 1>among Americans, primarily because they really believe that he will

1550
01:59:32.079 --> 01:59:41.479
<v Speaker 1>ultimately back back Israel. I think they're in for surprise, Michael.

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01:59:41.800 --> 01:59:45.439
<v Speaker 1>Only in Maga world do you worship the Confederacy and

1552
01:59:45.479 --> 01:59:52.359
<v Speaker 1>then sneer the free trade in slavery. I don't understand that.

1553
01:59:53.039 --> 01:59:56.479
<v Speaker 1>You praise the man who owned people then clutch your

1554
01:59:56.520 --> 02:00:02.439
<v Speaker 1>polls over terror free iPhone. Oh you sneer that free

1555
02:00:02.479 --> 02:00:05.920
<v Speaker 1>trade is slavery. Okay, I get it now. Yes, I

1556
02:00:05.920 --> 02:00:10.920
<v Speaker 1>mean Maga is crazy. Yes, they are tolerant of the

1557
02:00:10.960 --> 02:00:16.479
<v Speaker 1>Confederacy and of slavery in the Confederacy, But you know

1558
02:00:16.680 --> 02:00:23.560
<v Speaker 1>they want They're horrified by actual free trade. They don't

1559
02:00:23.600 --> 02:00:26.640
<v Speaker 1>like freedom, they don't want freedom, they don't believe in freedom.

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02:00:28.199 --> 02:00:35.079
<v Speaker 1>That's the reality. Harpercampbell COVID lockdowns, physical confinement, universal tariff's

1561
02:00:35.119 --> 02:00:40.079
<v Speaker 1>economic confinement. The proponents agree your freedom does not matter.

1562
02:00:40.159 --> 02:00:47.920
<v Speaker 1>Remember Trump was the one who endorsed and initiated lockdowns,

1563
02:00:48.399 --> 02:00:52.199
<v Speaker 1>the physical confinement, and he's the one now doing economic confinement.

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02:00:54.159 --> 02:00:57.479
<v Speaker 1>This is completely consistent for Trump. Freedom does not matter

1565
02:00:57.520 --> 02:01:01.439
<v Speaker 1>to him. Freedom does not matter to him. People forget

1566
02:01:02.039 --> 02:01:07.800
<v Speaker 1>the COVID lockdowns happened under Trump. They somehow think it

1567
02:01:07.840 --> 02:01:13.439
<v Speaker 1>was Biden, But no, it was Trump, and Trump supported lockdowns,

1568
02:01:13.760 --> 02:01:21.760
<v Speaker 1>was enthusiastic about lockdowns. Bonnie says, how can none of

1569
02:01:21.800 --> 02:01:27.159
<v Speaker 1>this be impeachable? Because you need Congress with balls to impeach.

1570
02:01:27.960 --> 02:01:31.840
<v Speaker 1>You need politicians with integrity to impeach a president over this,

1571
02:01:33.239 --> 02:01:38.680
<v Speaker 1>and we have a dysfunctional Congress with politicians without integrity

1572
02:01:38.760 --> 02:01:47.479
<v Speaker 1>that have sold their souls, So it's impossible. Doug Obama

1573
02:01:47.520 --> 02:01:53.359
<v Speaker 1>promised fundamental transformation. Has America fundamentally changed? Is this Obama's vision?

1574
02:01:53.439 --> 02:01:58.840
<v Speaker 1>How did Obama contribute to where we are? Is he proud? Oh? No,

1575
02:01:59.239 --> 02:02:04.439
<v Speaker 1>I don't think this is what Obama wanted. But suddenly

1576
02:02:04.640 --> 02:02:09.000
<v Speaker 1>Obama was one step in this direction. I don't think

1577
02:02:09.039 --> 02:02:12.479
<v Speaker 1>we would have gotten Trump without Obama. I mean, Trump

1578
02:02:12.680 --> 02:02:18.760
<v Speaker 1>was Trump twenty sixteen was not just the hatred of Clinton,

1579
02:02:19.199 --> 02:02:23.159
<v Speaker 1>but was a repudiation of Obama's presidency. It was a

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02:02:23.199 --> 02:02:29.399
<v Speaker 1>repudiation of his attitude of Obama care of a kind

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02:02:29.399 --> 02:02:38.079
<v Speaker 1>of an aloof detached president who looked down on I

1582
02:02:38.119 --> 02:02:41.520
<v Speaker 1>think a lot of common people on the people who

1583
02:02:41.520 --> 02:02:49.560
<v Speaker 1>constitute MAGA and who basically introduced ever growing statism into America.

1584
02:02:50.800 --> 02:02:57.439
<v Speaker 1>But did Obama transform America indirectly by giving us Trump

1585
02:02:59.520 --> 02:03:06.720
<v Speaker 1>indirect by being one more stepping stone towards autheletianism, one

1586
02:03:06.800 --> 02:03:16.000
<v Speaker 1>more stepping stone towards a strong man ruling America? Is Trump?

1587
02:03:16.119 --> 02:03:20.840
<v Speaker 1>Is Obama happy? No? He hates Trump. But that's more

1588
02:03:20.880 --> 02:03:23.600
<v Speaker 1>to do with personality than it is with policies. I

1589
02:03:23.600 --> 02:03:27.520
<v Speaker 1>don't think Obama necessarily objects to taoffs. He objects to

1590
02:03:27.560 --> 02:03:31.279
<v Speaker 1>the stupidity in which Trump is doing the taos. But

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02:03:31.359 --> 02:03:35.840
<v Speaker 1>I don't think Democrats on principle objector tawse. Just the

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02:03:35.960 --> 02:03:38.199
<v Speaker 1>kind of taus and the way Trump is doing them.

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<v Speaker 1>This is particularly bad, Adam, fear of US trade sanctions

1594
02:03:53.560 --> 02:03:56.600
<v Speaker 1>was holding the CCP back from taking over Taiwan by force?

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<v Speaker 1>Could you discuss the consequence of TSMC under CCP control? Yeah,

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02:04:04.119 --> 02:04:06.800
<v Speaker 1>I mean, you know, I think I don't know that

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02:04:07.039 --> 02:04:09.479
<v Speaker 1>fear of trade sanctions was holding back to CCP a

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02:04:09.479 --> 02:04:11.840
<v Speaker 1>lot of things holding back to CCP. I think the

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<v Speaker 1>main thing holding back to CCP was their fear of

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02:04:15.600 --> 02:04:19.800
<v Speaker 1>getting bugged down in the war they couldn't win, and

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02:04:21.159 --> 02:04:24.279
<v Speaker 1>American involvement in such a war was a big part

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02:04:24.319 --> 02:04:30.439
<v Speaker 1>of what they feared. I do think the probability of

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02:04:30.520 --> 02:04:36.720
<v Speaker 1>China invading Taiwan has increased dramatically, dramatically in the last week.

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02:04:37.680 --> 02:04:41.199
<v Speaker 1>I think the more we try to isolate, the more

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02:04:41.239 --> 02:04:46.359
<v Speaker 1>we separate China from the US, the more we would dislodge,

1606
02:04:46.880 --> 02:04:52.279
<v Speaker 1>the more likely war is. The more Trump makes it

1607
02:04:52.359 --> 02:04:56.079
<v Speaker 1>clear is not interested in freedom around the world, He's

1608
02:04:56.119 --> 02:05:00.039
<v Speaker 1>not interested in defending anybody, He's not interested in the

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02:05:00.079 --> 02:05:04.199
<v Speaker 1>world more broadly, the more likely it is the Japanese

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02:05:04.199 --> 02:05:09.840
<v Speaker 1>will assess that he won't intervene in Taiwan. So I

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02:05:09.880 --> 02:05:11.960
<v Speaker 1>think the probability of China, I think the probability of

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02:05:12.039 --> 02:05:15.000
<v Speaker 1>China invading Taiwan in the near future is still very low,

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02:05:15.279 --> 02:05:17.840
<v Speaker 1>but it's a lot higher than it was even a

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02:05:17.880 --> 02:05:24.279
<v Speaker 1>week ago. Suddenly before Zelenski episode. I think every week

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<v Speaker 1>that Trump does one of these crazy, crazy things, the

1616
02:05:28.319 --> 02:05:31.319
<v Speaker 1>China becomes more emboldened, and the probability of China invading

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02:05:31.399 --> 02:05:38.880
<v Speaker 1>becomes more real China invading. You know, my I don't

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02:05:38.880 --> 02:05:42.000
<v Speaker 1>know that TSMC would be under CCV control because my

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02:05:42.439 --> 02:05:45.880
<v Speaker 1>guess is that one thing the United States might do

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<v Speaker 1>is blow t SMC up. That is, it would destroy

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02:05:50.520 --> 02:05:55.479
<v Speaker 1>that factory, destroy a capability, and prevent ASML from selling

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02:05:55.520 --> 02:05:59.479
<v Speaker 1>more machines to a Taiwan under China. I don't know

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02:05:59.520 --> 02:06:03.560
<v Speaker 1>that for a fact, but I think that's probable. But

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02:06:03.720 --> 02:06:07.199
<v Speaker 1>if China got a hold of TSMC, it basically gets

1625
02:06:07.239 --> 02:06:14.960
<v Speaker 1>a hold of all the chip manufacturing for Apple, for Ai,

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<v Speaker 1>in Nvidia, for basically everything that the United States does.

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<v Speaker 1>And now a lot of that will have to shift

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<v Speaker 1>to South Korea, but in the meantime it'll take a

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02:06:27.079 --> 02:06:29.039
<v Speaker 1>while for South Korea to be able to ramp up.

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<v Speaker 1>It would also mean that China has would have the

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02:06:33.039 --> 02:06:38.479
<v Speaker 1>most sophisticated chip manufacturing plants in the world supplying it

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<v Speaker 1>with chips. So it would be a disaster, a geopolitical disaster.

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<v Speaker 1>But notice that one of the things that Trump has

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<v Speaker 1>said is that he wants to increase tariffs and chips

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<v Speaker 1>on microchips from Taiwan to one hundred percent, So you

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<v Speaker 1>might stop imputation of chips on Taiwan anyway. Yeah, I

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<v Speaker 1>imagine if he did that what that would do to

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<v Speaker 1>tech in the US. Doug, Why doesn't Israel get to

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<v Speaker 1>expand sphere of influence? Who will get that sphere? Israel's

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<v Speaker 1>just too small, small population, a small country. Turkey would

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<v Speaker 1>like to spread it and the influence around it is Muslim,

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<v Speaker 1>and they're not likely to listen to Israel or to

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<v Speaker 1>care about Israel. They hate Israel. Indeed, so much more

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<v Speaker 1>likely as influences in the Middle East, this Turkey, Saudi Arabia, Iran, Egypt,

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<v Speaker 1>to any one of those countries is more likely than Israel,

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<v Speaker 1>given the Muslim character of most of the countries in

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<v Speaker 1>that region. Doug, is it a coincident that major world

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<v Speaker 1>news breaks when you travel just asking questions? I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>going to answer that question, because you know, I'd rather

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<v Speaker 1>keep you guessing, keep asking questions. They're really interesting questions.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe there's something there, maybe there isn't. I don't know,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe there is, maybe there isn't. Justin, did you read

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<v Speaker 1>the article in Atlantic about Atlanta peacock. What do you

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<v Speaker 1>think of it? I did not read it and not

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<v Speaker 1>interested in discussing it. I probably will read it, but

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not interested in discussing it anymore than I mean, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I can't quite bring myself to read it. Put it

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<v Speaker 1>that way, Doug, if you had a supersonic jet the

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<v Speaker 1>show whatever, less downtime, you could spread the wood at

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<v Speaker 1>speed of sound. Glad Jesus didn't have a jet. He

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<v Speaker 1>did pretty well spreading the wood in spite of that. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>if anybody wants to buy me a jet, I am

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02:09:13.399 --> 02:09:16.880
<v Speaker 1>all for that. And yes, we'd have a lot more shows.

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<v Speaker 1>A jet would be the best gift anybody could buy me. Andrew,

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<v Speaker 1>the protectionists are unswayed by a low standard of living.

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<v Speaker 1>Maximizing standard a living is not a goal. No, And

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<v Speaker 1>this is the point of nationalism. Nationalism is a lot

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<v Speaker 1>not about standard of living. It's about some mystical good

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02:09:39.920 --> 02:09:48.560
<v Speaker 1>of the nation undefined. If you want to ask questions,

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<v Speaker 1>you do it using the superchat. Don't ask in the chat.

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02:09:51.640 --> 02:09:54.479
<v Speaker 1>I don't answer them in the chat. Ask using the

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02:09:54.560 --> 02:09:57.920
<v Speaker 1>super chat. Put two dollars behind it, fifty dollars behind it,

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02:09:57.960 --> 02:10:01.079
<v Speaker 1>three hundred dollars behind it, whatever you want, but I'll

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<v Speaker 1>answer it if it's in the super chat. Don't have

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of time because when you have two questions left, Andrew,

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<v Speaker 1>is Trump an empiricist? How do you evaluate a psychostomological method?

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think he has a method. I mean he's

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<v Speaker 1>an empiricist in the sense that he's a he's at

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<v Speaker 1>the perceptual level. All you have is I guess empirical data.

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<v Speaker 1>But it's an insult to empiricist to call him an empiricist.

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02:10:34.840 --> 02:10:47.159
<v Speaker 1>He's a wim worshiper. He's an emotionless, unthinking moron. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>I think it was Greg sel Mary who said he's

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<v Speaker 1>not philosophical. You can't attribute a philosophical method to it.

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<v Speaker 1>He's not a he said. Calling him a pragmatist is

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<v Speaker 1>not right because a pragmatist has a view about the

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<v Speaker 1>world and about how the world about reality about and

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<v Speaker 1>Trump doesn't have a view, just he just makes it up.

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<v Speaker 1>And the same with an empirsist. It's not like he's

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<v Speaker 1>read the philosophical literature and yeah, that's the way human

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<v Speaker 1>knowledge works. It's that he's just a mootes. Instead of

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<v Speaker 1>looking like a leader, baby looks like a coward and

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<v Speaker 1>a loser. Next to Trump, who's baby. I don't know

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02:11:36.800 --> 02:11:44.680
<v Speaker 1>what you're talking about. I think Trump now looks like

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02:11:44.720 --> 02:11:51.920
<v Speaker 1>a loser, a coward. Justin last question, given how influence

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<v Speaker 1>of the Atlantic is, someone from the objective's community should

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<v Speaker 1>respond to it. But you you know, you can't respond

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<v Speaker 1>to it. I mean, and a lot of it has

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<v Speaker 1>to do with personal stuff. That is that Lennart could

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<v Speaker 1>respond to if you wanted to. But it's personal. So

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<v Speaker 1>the stuff on objectivism the objectives could respond to. But yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I just I just don't think. I don't think it's

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<v Speaker 1>worth interacting with stuff like that. Apollo says, anything positive

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02:12:36.359 --> 02:12:38.319
<v Speaker 1>you can say to wrap up the show. Yeah, that

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<v Speaker 1>tabs will pausit. That's good. Prices won't go up quite

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<v Speaker 1>as much as you expected. The economic disaster will not

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<v Speaker 1>happen quite as fast as we thought. And oh, you

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<v Speaker 1>mean Baby, instead of looking like a lead a BB,

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<v Speaker 1>not baby, BB looks like a coward and to losing

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<v Speaker 1>next to Trump. Well that's something given how much of

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<v Speaker 1>a coward and to loser Trump is. But yeah, Nataniel

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<v Speaker 1>looks weak. Nataniel looks super weak next to Trump because

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02:13:15.960 --> 02:13:21.479
<v Speaker 1>he's letting Trump bully him. But that's okay because Nataniel

1713
02:13:21.600 --> 02:13:28.399
<v Speaker 1>is a bully too. Yeah, there's ninety days left to party,

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02:13:28.439 --> 02:13:32.359
<v Speaker 1>as Jennifer says. So that's good news, right, we can.

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02:13:32.439 --> 02:13:34.800
<v Speaker 1>We can party prices and not going off in ninety days.

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<v Speaker 1>Somebody sent me a really positive news article. I'll use

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<v Speaker 1>it tomorrow. I'll have a I'll have a positive tomorrow.

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<v Speaker 1>But you know, science continues in spite of the government

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<v Speaker 1>cutting significantly into funding. Of all the things they decided

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<v Speaker 1>to cut on the spending side, science is what they

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<v Speaker 1>decided to cut. Beyond that, I don't know what is positive.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sure this positive stuff. I'll promise to bring in

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<v Speaker 1>positive stuff on tomorrow's show, how about that. But right

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<v Speaker 1>now I'm starting to feel like I'm losing my voice.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe it's time we stop. It's been two and fifteen

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<v Speaker 1>minutes on jet lag. I'm surprised I can even actually,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, express myself in any coherent way. My mind

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<v Speaker 1>is basically mush at this point. Let's call it a night.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you to all the super chatters. Thank you to

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<v Speaker 1>all the listeners. Don't forget to like the show before

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<v Speaker 1>you leave. Don't forget a subscribe if you're not a subscriber.

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<v Speaker 1>Don't forget to become a Patrion supporter if you're not

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<v Speaker 1>a supporter and I will see you all tomorrow. Have

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<v Speaker 1>a fantastic night by everybody as
