Speaker 1: Go yes, mac boy, oh boy, oh boy, oh boy. Uh.
Speaker 1: We wait a long time for this one, and I
Speaker 1: asked you, goo, was the wait for your back to
Speaker 1: back most anticipated movie of the year? Was it worth it?
Speaker 2: What are expectations?
Speaker 1: The great question? They either ruin everything or make things
Speaker 1: way better. That's that's really what we're dealing with here,
Speaker 1: That's really I mean, I know people, this is a
Speaker 1: big thing, right We talk about movies and television and
Speaker 1: everyone's always like, remove your expectations, move your expectations. Sorry.
Speaker 1: When you watch sixty movies a year, when you watch
Speaker 1: twenty television shows a year, you have certain expectations based
Speaker 1: off certain genres, certain actors, certain directors, certain writers. This one,
Speaker 1: directed by Bong Juno and starring Robert Pattinson, was pretty anticipated.
Speaker 2: By the way, say the name of the movie.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well it's in the title of the episode, so
Speaker 1: I'm sure they'll figure that part out. This has been
Speaker 1: a long time coming because Bong Juno was the director
Speaker 1: of twenty nineteen's Best Picture of Parasite, and that really
Speaker 1: put him on the map for a lot of people.
Speaker 1: He's directed other things in the past, and more recently,
Speaker 1: Robert Pattinson has become a pretty he was super successful
Speaker 1: obviously because of Twilight, but a more legitimate actor the Batman.
Speaker 1: Good time, good number of amazings.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: So these two combining forces were like, Hey, this could
Speaker 1: be fantastic and gu I ask you, y was it?
Speaker 2: I think this has come out on the perfect week.
Speaker 2: We have this and we have Daredevil reborn or born
Speaker 2: again in the same week where you have these expectations,
Speaker 2: these building promises that you have built in your mind
Speaker 2: over years and years, and Mac going into both of them,
Speaker 2: I said, I'm not gonna expect too much and I
Speaker 2: am satisfied.
Speaker 1: All right. The short answer for me would be no, one,
Speaker 1: go three.
Speaker 2: Yeah, just three. King of Queen Marl Street Entertainment.
Speaker 1: I'm Goo and I'm Mac.
Speaker 2: And we bring you friendship twice, the fun twice, the French.
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, we bring you friendship in the teens eighteen times.
Speaker 2: Because usually we have the same opinion. So it's like
Speaker 2: someone cloned the same white guy.
Speaker 1: Who here's a question for you, Uh, what number Goo
Speaker 1: are we on at this point in life?
Speaker 2: I'd say six or seven?
Speaker 1: Right, Okay, I would say I'm on two, three, four,
Speaker 1: I'm on six or seven of Mac as well.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I would say that I've definitely I've evolved over time.
Speaker 2: I've had my difference stages of life. I'm probably on
Speaker 2: like my seventh stage.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I agree. So we still if you're talking nine lives,
Speaker 1: like a cat still got a couple left. If you're
Speaker 1: talking Mickey seventeen, we have in fish left.
Speaker 2: I didn't even think of how many lives I might have.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well that's that's possibility.
Speaker 2: And you know, also good that I'm still here after
Speaker 2: you know, go six or seven or go five.
Speaker 1: Credit to us that we're still getting reprinted.
Speaker 2: Credit to us that we're still alive.
Speaker 1: We've done we haven't done something so bad that they've
Speaker 1: they've ended us.
Speaker 2: So I don't know.
Speaker 1: Yeah, today we are talking about Mickey seventeen. And to
Speaker 1: pick up what I asked you at the top, I
Speaker 1: would say goo that this movie was, uh, fell short
Speaker 1: of my expectations. It did not it warranted the expectations
Speaker 1: and the hype, and it did not achieve that level
Speaker 1: that I was hoping for. And I don't dislike this movie,
Speaker 1: don't get me wrong. It just really fell short of
Speaker 1: what it maybe should have been. I couldn't tell you
Speaker 1: how to improve this movie. I just would tell you
Speaker 1: that I was expecting a little more.
Speaker 2: Does it fall short of an Academy Award winning director
Speaker 2: who has given us maybe one of the best movies
Speaker 2: of the past decade, of one of our favorite actors,
Speaker 2: of a two year build up? Maybe? But I think
Speaker 2: the results, while not necessarily the most memorable movie, was
Speaker 2: a pretty fun time for the two hours and fifteen minutes.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a fair assessment of what it is. I'm
Speaker 1: sort of feeling like if this was the movie that
Speaker 1: came out right before Parasite, we would like this movie
Speaker 1: a lot more and we'd be like, Oh, his next
Speaker 1: one's gonna be really good, because he's getting there.
Speaker 2: He's almost I don't know about that, whereas.
Speaker 1: Parasite is near perfection. But also we are dealing with
Speaker 1: a director and a writer here where English is his
Speaker 1: second language, and this is the first script he's written
Speaker 1: in English with no help, so that might play a
Speaker 1: factor as well. And again, Parasite was in Korean, his
Speaker 1: native language, so it's probably a little bit easier to
Speaker 1: convey the themes he wants via conversation, and I don't
Speaker 1: necessarily think that's an issue in this movie. But it
Speaker 1: definitely it's a little uneven, and I wonder if that's why.
Speaker 2: I think we should have looked more like less at Parasite,
Speaker 2: because obviously these both have social commentary that's way more,
Speaker 2: but this is way This is a sci fi movie,
Speaker 2: so we should be looking at his other sci fi movies,
Speaker 2: his other adaptations of sci fi books.
Speaker 1: I'll actually push back against that. I think the prevailing
Speaker 1: theme in all of his works have been this sort
Speaker 1: of satire in social commentary, even going back to.
Speaker 2: Uh, snow Piercer.
Speaker 1: Snow Piercer massive on the satire and social commentary and
Speaker 1: also sci fi. It's just he really likes doing this stuff,
Speaker 1: and it's sort of to what degree does it land?
Speaker 1: I would say this is better than snow Piercer, but
Speaker 1: not much like this is more in snow Piercer world
Speaker 1: than it is in Parasites world. And I guess I
Speaker 1: also should say that I shouldn't expect someone to make
Speaker 1: a top fifty movie of all time every time they
Speaker 1: make a movie, which Parasite is.
Speaker 2: I don't every time, and I'm not even the biggest
Speaker 2: fan of Parasite. I really liked it. I don't love
Speaker 2: the hard left turn that they took in the third act,
Speaker 2: but I'll acknowledge it's an amazing movie.
Speaker 1: Good Did you know that you can go left on
Speaker 1: red if you're going from one one way to another one.
Speaker 2: I've noticed more and more around that we live in
Speaker 2: the state of tax achoose its that sure, there's a
Speaker 2: lot less.
Speaker 1: Not to get polycharged here, not to.
Speaker 2: Get poly charged here, but a lot less right turns
Speaker 2: on red, which is very annoying. I should be allowed
Speaker 2: to turn on every red.
Speaker 1: The issue is now they're sticking bike lanes everywhere, and
Speaker 1: so it's an added thing. So if they take away
Speaker 1: the red on red, you don't have to worry about
Speaker 1: smushing a bicyclist. So that's that's frustrating.
Speaker 2: I will say this, though, is that I have found
Speaker 2: myself hating bicyclists less as we've gotten more of the
Speaker 2: little motor scooters that weave in and out of traffic
Speaker 2: and also cut off the bicyclists like we have a
Speaker 2: common enemy.
Speaker 1: Now no pro motor scooter, but pro motorized things anti cyclic.
Speaker 2: I guess the question is how much do you drive
Speaker 2: in Boston? Not much these okay, so good does and
Speaker 2: those little motherfuckers. They'll cut you off every which way.
Speaker 1: I just want everyone to obey the rules of the road,
Speaker 1: and none of them do. So they're sort of all
Speaker 1: the same way. But at least the motorized people, I
Speaker 1: feel like they're obeying the law more than the cyclist.
Speaker 1: But whatever, that's it.
Speaker 2: They're not.
Speaker 1: That's a different pat they're not.
Speaker 2: Actually they're doing it way less.
Speaker 1: All right, fair enough? Uh? Kude. Mickey seventeen is a
Speaker 1: rated R adventure comedy, fantasy, and sci fi. Some sub
Speaker 1: genres here alien invasion, which I suppose kind of works. Yeah,
Speaker 1: if you look at yourself as the alien. I do
Speaker 1: want dot comedy, which which it is space sci fi,
Speaker 1: which I feel like that almost is implied when you
Speaker 1: sci fi. But more importantly, this is a satire and
Speaker 1: social commentary capitalism in the corporate world, which once again
Speaker 1: I think is becoming Bong June's favorite thing to do. Gude.
Speaker 1: This has a run time of one hundred and thirty
Speaker 1: seven minutes two hours and seventeen minutes. I started to
Speaker 1: feel it amidst the third act, like right at the
Speaker 1: beginning of the third act, I started feeling the length
Speaker 1: of this movie. And this is your classic. I felt
Speaker 1: like we didn't get enough of a certain thing, and
Speaker 1: so I would have been okay if it was a
Speaker 1: little bit longer in that respect, but also because some
Speaker 1: stuff in the third act lasted too long, this movie
Speaker 1: also feels a little too well.
Speaker 2: Lasted too long. And then I also felt was kind
Speaker 2: of predictable, like it wasn't surprising and you were hoping,
Speaker 2: And I know, I just said that I didn't love
Speaker 2: the hard left turn of Parasite, but I was waiting
Speaker 2: for something crazy to happen at the end, and something
Speaker 2: that would surprise us, and it didn't.
Speaker 1: We were waiting for like a pants tent moment, honestly,
Speaker 1: and in this movie sort of lacks that. Is as
Speaker 1: much fun as it is throughout. This movie has one
Speaker 1: hundred and eighteen million dollar budget, which is pretty huge,
Speaker 1: and it's only targeting and opening of eighteen to twenty
Speaker 1: million domestically another twenty to twenty five internationally. It's gonna
Speaker 1: have to make what two hundred and fifty three hundred
Speaker 1: million to make its money back, and I don't think
Speaker 1: it's well.
Speaker 2: I think that is a lot to do with the
Speaker 2: release date being pushed off so many times, possibly reshoots
Speaker 2: that they had to do here, and maybe this was
Speaker 2: originally supposed to be more of a summer release, more
Speaker 2: of a box office time. I don't think it's gonna
Speaker 2: hit I think it might eventually get around one hundred
Speaker 2: million domestic. I don't know what it's gonna do worldwide,
Speaker 2: but I'm not sure how much of this. I'm not
Speaker 2: gonna say bombing at the box office. I think breaking
Speaker 2: even at the box office is really gonna hurt them.
Speaker 1: I think they go into this thinking they're capturing two
Speaker 1: rising stars, right, Bong Juneo and Pattinson. They're like, we'll
Speaker 1: put that together, that'll be massive people space. Yeah, this
Speaker 1: will make five hundred million easy, And I don't think
Speaker 1: it's gonna make half that overall, and that that ends
Speaker 1: up being a bummer because this movie, this movie is
Speaker 1: as good or better than a lot of movies that
Speaker 1: get to that point, but because of the extenuating circumstances,
Speaker 1: it being pushed off a year and whatnot.
Speaker 2: You're right, this is they're also dealing with, and you know,
Speaker 2: this shouldn't affect movies as much as it does. But
Speaker 2: it's not a known ip, so you don't have that
Speaker 2: built an audience.
Speaker 1: Yea, even though they've been teasing it for a year now.
Speaker 1: But you're right, you're right.
Speaker 2: Also, like, you know, we know who Boon June is,
Speaker 2: and you know a bunch of people do. But it's
Speaker 2: not like a well known Martin Scorsese, Steven Spielberg. He
Speaker 2: might be on his way to it, but an American
Speaker 2: audience might not necessarily be looking at it being like, Oh,
Speaker 2: I need to go see this movie from this director.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's true. And to that point, I'm not sure
Speaker 1: Pattinson has.
Speaker 2: Read this movie star either.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, he's born. He is for us, obviously the
Speaker 1: Batman put him there, but I think in some respects
Speaker 1: he's not there. Dude. This has eighty eight percent on
Speaker 1: Rotten Tomatoes from the critics from seventy two reviews of
Speaker 1: seventy five on Metacritic from twenty eight reviews. No audience
Speaker 1: score yet, but doing pretty well with the critics.
Speaker 2: Looking at this movie, I think it's a very competent movie.
Speaker 2: I think it has its ebbs and flows of maybe
Speaker 2: being overly silly at points, maybe dragging things out a
Speaker 2: little bit at other points, but on the whole, it's
Speaker 2: a very good looking movie. And I think what helps
Speaker 2: it out is there's really only two or three settings
Speaker 2: that they had to focus on. They didn't have to
Speaker 2: really world build, you know, several planets like in Star
Speaker 2: Wars or spend a ton of time in space. You're
Speaker 2: on a ship and you're on an ice planet. And
Speaker 2: ice planets, while we've seen them, they always look good.
Speaker 2: What's the Star Wars movie that you hate? The Last Jedi, Well,
Speaker 2: we can agree it's not the best Star Wars movie.
Speaker 2: The scene on that salt planet, correct, that's what it
Speaker 2: was with salt that still looks really, really good.
Speaker 1: I'll give you that. But I'm gonna docua point from
Speaker 1: just working Ryan Johnson into this conversation. Uh go, this
Speaker 1: movie does look good, I'll give you that. I don't know,
Speaker 1: like when you take a step back, though, and you're
Speaker 1: thinking about this movie in a couple of days.
Speaker 2: I refuse to I only stepped forward.
Speaker 1: I don't know if I love that this is really
Speaker 1: a two location movie with this big, grandiose sci fi thing. Right,
Speaker 1: you just had Nippleheim, the snow planet or the ice planet,
Speaker 1: and you just really had the ship and nothing else.
Speaker 1: It's a little weird thing.
Speaker 2: When you first heard them say that, did you think
Speaker 2: it was Nippleheim? No, I heard the I thought it
Speaker 2: was Nippleheim. For half the movie, I thought it was funny.
Speaker 1: This movie is written and directed, of course, once again
Speaker 1: by Bong June Hoe, who you would know from snow
Speaker 1: Piercer in Parasite, maybe from Okja, which is a little
Speaker 1: underrated one that came out. I think it's seventeen. This
Speaker 1: is based on a book Goo called Mickey seven by
Speaker 1: Edward Ashton, so obviously a little bit of a change
Speaker 1: up there. Obviously, you and I have not read the book.
Speaker 1: We never anytime there's a book before movie, we've never
Speaker 1: read it. Just take that.
Speaker 2: I don't want to know what happened in the book.
Speaker 2: But I did look at the book and saw that
Speaker 2: it was Mickey seven. First off, Mickey Mantle number seven.
Speaker 2: Keep that in mind. That has nothing to do with
Speaker 2: the movie. But when I saw that this was Mickey seventeen,
Speaker 2: I said, are they gonna have more fun with the
Speaker 2: duplicates and have more of them around? Because it's ten
Speaker 2: more than seven seventeen ten more than seven.
Speaker 1: That's good math math my head, yeah, math and goo.
Speaker 2: Should I have not thought that?
Speaker 1: Well? No, like if you read a twenty second synopsis
Speaker 1: of what this story is, you would realize there was
Speaker 1: that was never really a possibility. However, that said, that
Speaker 1: change from seven to seventeen I do think helped the
Speaker 1: early part of this movie and sort of explaining the
Speaker 1: journey as how we get to our character, because if
Speaker 1: we just had six versions of Mickey up until where
Speaker 1: we got I would have been like, I don't know
Speaker 1: about that. I feel like this should have been more.
Speaker 2: But I'm also saying like there's a point in this
Speaker 2: movie where like, I guess that's kind of spoilery, but
Speaker 2: you could have used more Mickeys.
Speaker 1: I agree, But the whole that goes against everything.
Speaker 2: Who's keeping tabs of who's a hypocritin who's not?
Speaker 1: They get a whiteboard. They got one guy doing a whiteboard.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but you have one ultimate person that's in charge
Speaker 2: of everything. That's a loose cannon. He could say, you
Speaker 2: know what, give me a bunch of these idiots.
Speaker 1: But on a spaceship with the same people for four
Speaker 1: and a half years, it'd be really easy to hide
Speaker 1: a multiple fear, or really hard to hide a multiple
Speaker 1: of yourself.
Speaker 2: I should say not enough. One's always in the bedroom.
Speaker 2: If one's always in the bedroom, you're fine. You hide
Speaker 2: every other day.
Speaker 1: Synopsis of Mickey seventeen. Mickey seventeen, known as an expendable,
Speaker 1: goes on a dangerous journey to colonize an ice planet.
Speaker 1: He is selected for dangerous tasks because he's He can
Speaker 1: be renewed if his body dies, with his memories largely intact.
Speaker 1: With one regeneration. Though things go very wrong, I would
Speaker 1: subm in the word awry.
Speaker 2: There also who looks at a planet covered in ice
Speaker 2: and says, this is my paradise, this is where I
Speaker 2: want to live.
Speaker 1: I had some questions about that, but I think it
Speaker 1: just speaks to all the dummies buying in. You know,
Speaker 1: it speaks more to the people than it does the planet.
Speaker 1: And so I think that that's fine.
Speaker 2: You know, as we live here in in TAXI choose
Speaker 2: it's mac. Yeah, not to get Polly charged with that one.
Speaker 2: But winter cold, bad bad, hate it?
Speaker 1: Yeah, you don't. I don't mind the cold. I hate
Speaker 1: the snow of the ice.
Speaker 2: I hate paying my energy bills. Not to get Polly
Speaker 2: charged there, but my energy bills. I live on one
Speaker 2: floor of a house and it is out the second.
Speaker 1: Floor so the second I both should be spending a
Speaker 1: littlesks the heat's rise.
Speaker 2: I should be able to be pretty much cut a
Speaker 2: hole in the floor of my house and just suck
Speaker 2: up the heat from the first floor and live off
Speaker 2: of that.
Speaker 1: I can't totally cree, dude. This stars Robert Pattinson as
Speaker 1: Mickey Barnes, Naomi Aki as Nasha. I've never seen her before,
Speaker 1: at least I've never registered her before. She's pretty good.
Speaker 1: Stephen Yun as Timo, Mark Ruffalo's Kenneth Marshall, Tony Kollett
Speaker 1: as Alpha Ilfa, Anna Maria Varto of Oartole May is
Speaker 1: Kai katz Aka just a young Monica Balucci, camer Britton
Speaker 1: as Arcadie. He was like the head scientist guy on
Speaker 1: the ship, and then Patsy Fair and his Dorothy. She
Speaker 1: was like the empathetic scientist won And that's all you'd
Speaker 1: really need to know from this from this cast.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so it also keeps the cast pretty small. There is, uh,
Speaker 2: there's a bunch of scientists that do add levity to
Speaker 2: the movie though.
Speaker 1: The group o scientists and then like a group of
Speaker 1: cops and security guards as well, but not a ton
Speaker 1: of them have speaking lines to set the scene for
Speaker 1: some listeners who are maybe borderline on this, and based
Speaker 1: on the eighteen to twenty million opening domestic that it's
Speaker 1: shooting for, probably not a ton of people that are
Speaker 1: going to see.
Speaker 2: And also how we just started the this podcast twenty
Speaker 2: minutes in of saying well, we're disappointed, but we liked it.
Speaker 1: We did like it, but we were also expecting potentially
Speaker 1: forty dogs out of this. So that's a you and
Speaker 1: I think, yeah.
Speaker 2: So if you're a regular person that has not been
Speaker 2: following this dumb movie for two years, I think you'll
Speaker 2: have fun. There you go, go and see it. End
Speaker 2: of the episode. Uh.
Speaker 1: This story is set in a dystopian near future Earth
Speaker 1: where the planet is like kind of crumbling. The world's
Speaker 1: economy is tanking. So there's a group of people being
Speaker 1: led by a demented politician who will give you there's
Speaker 1: some imagery there that pulls upon some real life stuff,
Speaker 1: and he's looking to establish a new society or colony
Speaker 1: on another planet. That planet is a four and a
Speaker 1: half year journey away, and it's called Nifflheim. It's a
Speaker 1: nice planet who's only inhabitants appear to be these armadillo
Speaker 1: worm like things.
Speaker 2: Which once again I would have give me some more creatures.
Speaker 1: Agreed, Agreed. But also there's like they're only living living
Speaker 1: under the surface too, so maybe life didn't really develop
Speaker 1: too much, so this is the only thing that can
Speaker 1: live there. I don't know.
Speaker 2: How do you look at it once again and say,
Speaker 2: this is where I want to live, Like the only
Speaker 2: thing that lives here are these cockroaches under the earth.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but you don't know, like what the scout mission
Speaker 1: was like, you know, maybe they just got a report
Speaker 1: back that it habitable and that was good enough. I
Speaker 1: don't know. And then we learn it's really not habitable
Speaker 1: because it takes a few Mickeys to figure out how
Speaker 1: to breathe the atmosphere on this planet. In order to
Speaker 1: go on the journey and in part to avoid some
Speaker 1: consequences back on Earth, Robert Pattinson's character Mickey, signs up
Speaker 1: to become an expendable for this cru slash journey and
Speaker 1: doesn't read any of the fine print, in fact, reads
Speaker 1: none of the print. And what this job of an
Speaker 1: expendable is is basically, they make a copy of his
Speaker 1: brain and his mind and they have this technology in
Speaker 1: this sci fi future world where they can reprint bodies,
Speaker 1: So they send Mickey on all these dangerous, harmful missions
Speaker 1: and tests to basically learn stuff or get jobs done
Speaker 1: that would otherwise kill people. And ultimately, when he does die,
Speaker 1: they possess that technology to just reprint his body and
Speaker 1: imprint his mind back on the new body. And so
Speaker 1: that's really like the whole premise of this story and
Speaker 1: what this really becomes. And very shortly into the journey
Speaker 1: in space, he meets his love interest not and also
Speaker 1: the other little wrinkle is his former partner in crime
Speaker 1: on Earth, Timo has sort of latched onto this mission too,
Speaker 1: like as a fake bullshit pilot, like kind of bullshited
Speaker 1: his way as he did on Earth. So that really
Speaker 1: sets the scene for the movie and the high jinks,
Speaker 1: And I thought they did a pretty good job really
Speaker 1: like setting the scene and like getting us into the story,
Speaker 1: because it does like a little bit of a deadpool thing, right.
Speaker 1: It opens in the middle of a scene, in the
Speaker 1: middle of a story.
Speaker 2: You're probably wondering how I got here, which is you know,
Speaker 2: it's a bit of a bit of a trope.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a it's a but it is a good
Speaker 1: way to get the viewers interest.
Speaker 2: They also do something with Nasha third act that I
Speaker 2: was like, you know what, that's really fucking sweet. I
Speaker 2: really really like that. And it does show you the
Speaker 2: connection between the two.
Speaker 1: It does. That's that's for sure.
Speaker 2: Mac. Before we get into the gauntlet, I have a
Speaker 2: question for you, a very important question for you, not
Speaker 2: only you, but the people at home. I want everyone
Speaker 2: to answer if they're were multiples of Mac. If there
Speaker 2: were two Macs, would you have a three way with yourself?
Speaker 1: Wrapper reaction is no, I'm a jealous lover. Couldn't do it.
Speaker 1: I don't think I could ever sustain a threesome, whether
Speaker 1: it be with two women or anyone. I don't think
Speaker 1: I could do it. Second secondary, when i'm thinking about it,
Speaker 1: a little bit more depends which Mac. If if I'm
Speaker 1: Mac seven or Mac eight, Mac five, a young, spry,
Speaker 1: like twenty one year old Mac. That guy's fucking better
Speaker 1: than me. I don't think I want to I want
Speaker 1: to go up against him, So no, No, I think
Speaker 1: the answer is no.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna say also, you're a very spiteful person, so
Speaker 2: you'd probably.
Speaker 1: I'd kill myself. I would you would kill myself. I
Speaker 1: would kill you.
Speaker 2: You cannot say that on YouTube.
Speaker 1: I would stab Mac five, easily kill that motherfucker. No
Speaker 1: questions asked and asked meg go, Yeah, would you have
Speaker 1: a three way with yourself?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 1: And some other.
Speaker 2: Significent I'm sorry, yes, the answer is yes.
Speaker 1: Okay, pick flip christ Air off of that.
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Would you murder another version of yourself?
Speaker 2: No?
Speaker 1: So you want multiple us around?
Speaker 2: Yeah, we could do. We could tag each other in.
Speaker 1: There's too much deviance in my brain. I would end
Speaker 1: up with a Mickey eighteen that might be a real
Speaker 1: son of a bitch and get myself in trouble.
Speaker 2: We could handle the chores. We could uh you know
Speaker 2: better ququarantine.
Speaker 1: I'll get your wife. Would she want multiple versions of.
Speaker 2: I brought this up to her the other day and
Speaker 2: at first she was like, oh no, And I'm like,
Speaker 2: but imagine what I would do. Imagine what I could do.
Speaker 2: Think about this. I could last twice as long and
Speaker 2: twice as hard. I suppose that's just we can have
Speaker 2: more sex, babe.
Speaker 1: What do you think about that?
Speaker 2: You know how annoying I am? Now imagine that doubled.
Speaker 1: I'm just picturing Goo one or Goo whatever number you
Speaker 1: are six or seven off the side, chairing on Go eight.
Speaker 2: I could check Twitter while the other guy's doing it.
Speaker 2: You can flip him the phone and hop in.
Speaker 1: Your tweets would be so much better if there were two.
Speaker 2: Versions of you. Yeah, you get to see yourself in action.
Speaker 2: It's not bad, right right? Yeah? No, fuck a mirror,
Speaker 2: which so you can see yourself in double action. What
Speaker 2: do you want to do here?
Speaker 1: Yeah, let's get to the gauntlet.
Speaker 2: All right, let's start off with the fun factor. Mac.
Speaker 2: I think I had enough fun. I know that you
Speaker 2: have here that you had a great time with Pattinson, Ruffalo, Collette.
Speaker 2: I did not enjoy as much as I thought I
Speaker 2: would mark Ruffalo in this movie. I thought he wasn't
Speaker 2: as good of a bad guy as I would have enjoyed.
Speaker 2: And I actually thought that they wasted the amazing talents
Speaker 2: of Tony Collette.
Speaker 1: So first of all, I don't put words in my mouth, motherfucker.
Speaker 2: I'm reading your doc.
Speaker 1: You didn't know you just read. You didn't finish the sentence. Pattinson, Ruffalo,
Speaker 1: and Klett are clearly having a blast, and most of
Speaker 1: that translates to the viewer. I agree Ruffalo could have
Speaker 1: been maybe be a more menacing villain, but he's also
Speaker 1: supposed to be a dope, like that's what his character
Speaker 1: is supposed to be. And it's almost like Tony Kollette
Speaker 1: is the bigger villain by the end, like she's really
Speaker 1: the puppet pulling the or the person pulling the.
Speaker 2: Store, and then push that more then they well.
Speaker 1: So that's one of the issues I had with the
Speaker 1: movie is I feel like she's ultimately the better villain.
Speaker 1: They don't spend enough time on her towards the end.
Speaker 1: And I also feel like the whole multiplicity thing and
Speaker 1: the multiple Mickeys, they don't spend enough time.
Speaker 2: You could have had more fun with the hijinks of
Speaker 2: the multiple Those.
Speaker 1: Are my two major issues with the script here.
Speaker 2: I also think you could have spread the fun out
Speaker 2: a little bit more because I feel like the fun
Speaker 2: is like it's a half an hour chunk of the
Speaker 2: movie where most of the fun is.
Speaker 1: Well and also the fun is only had by Mickey
Speaker 1: eighteen and Ruffalo in Collette. You know, there's not a
Speaker 1: lot of fun being had by anyone else. But I
Speaker 1: suppose if you're on a four and a half year
Speaker 1: spaceship journey, maybe there's not a lot of fun to be.
Speaker 2: Had, satisfactor. It could have been more satisfying, But I'm
Speaker 2: not disappointed picking.
Speaker 1: Up what I was just putting it down there. I
Speaker 1: feel like we kind of got the short ends of
Speaker 1: things when it comes to the multiple hijinks, like there
Speaker 1: could have been a lot more going on there, some
Speaker 1: more possibilities. That wasn't very satisfying, And I agree because
Speaker 1: they don't really flesh out either villain possibility. The conclusion
Speaker 1: of this movie is also not very satisfying.
Speaker 2: No, it is wildly predictable. Yeah, Mac Borometer, I think
Speaker 2: the pacing could have been different.
Speaker 1: The final act falls a bit flat for me, gets
Speaker 1: a bit stale, and it leads up to the very
Speaker 1: predictable ending. And on top of that, because you're seeing
Speaker 1: what's coming, it starts to weigh on you a little
Speaker 1: bit and you feel the length and you're not having
Speaker 1: as much fun as you did in the first.
Speaker 2: That's what she said, Azah, Halloween. Will this movie wane
Speaker 2: over time? I don't think this will have a long
Speaker 2: lasting effect.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's just it is funny. It's a funny movie. There.
Speaker 1: I left out loud a couple of times, but it's
Speaker 1: not hysteric, and even though visually it's look it looks good,
Speaker 1: there's not enough like really fun shots to come back to,
Speaker 1: and plot wise, it doesn't make it very rewatchable. So
Speaker 1: it's just a fall short of being like a really
Speaker 1: rewatchable movie.
Speaker 2: Oh shout out Robert Pattinson for the physical comedy in
Speaker 2: this movie.
Speaker 1: He's pretty good. I've never seen Pattinson in this type
Speaker 1: of role, playing this type of character, multiple characters. He
Speaker 1: does a great job.
Speaker 2: Quater World. Is this movie better or worse in the
Speaker 2: nineteen ninety five classic water World? I'll say better it is.
Speaker 2: It is definitive, but there is something about it that
Speaker 2: I will compare to water World in a second.
Speaker 1: Ooh, looking forward to that.
Speaker 2: When life gives you plemens, you make Plemonade and Mac
Speaker 2: in this movie. Who do you think, with their short
Speaker 2: amount of time stole the show? I believe, And you
Speaker 2: can put them all in a bag. The scientists, they
Speaker 2: were all having fun. They're all pretty scientist good. Nah,
Speaker 2: you know, like they weren't paying attention to when he's
Speaker 2: being printed out. They're doing other stuff.
Speaker 1: Yeah, No, that's good. That's a good Those were good.
Speaker 1: Lemonade makers. I think Tony Kollette just chewing up the
Speaker 1: scenery every time she was on the screen. It was fun.
Speaker 1: Her making her sauces was fun, Like she's clearly having
Speaker 1: a fun time, and she's a little She's not as
Speaker 1: overbearing as Ruffalo's care.
Speaker 2: What a weird character trait? Like, Oh, what do I
Speaker 2: do in this movie? You make sauce? That's your thing.
Speaker 1: Listen, I love sauces.
Speaker 2: Anything else, No, I get it.
Speaker 1: You're trying to spice up the same shit you've been
Speaker 1: eating for four and a half years.
Speaker 2: You know, I thought would have been perfect in that role.
Speaker 2: Catherine O'Hara.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a I could see it. I could see it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, this is all up to you, Max
Speaker 2: Credit Union. Who are you giving credit to?
Speaker 1: It's clearly Robert Pattinson crushing these dual roles. Like this
Speaker 1: movie doesn't fail to meet my expectations because of Pattinson.
Speaker 1: He's doing everything he can to prop this movie up.
Speaker 1: He does a great job. It's two distinct different characters
Speaker 1: he's playing. Although I have a little bit of an
Speaker 1: issue with that writing wise, not the way Pattinson does it,
Speaker 1: but I think he's in.
Speaker 2: This movie also I think he does a great job,
Speaker 2: and maybe some people might disagree with me, but I
Speaker 2: didn't find like he changes up his voice. He's he's
Speaker 2: a little uh, he's a little manic, he's a little cartoonish.
Speaker 2: But I did not find it annoying. I think some
Speaker 2: people might find it a little much, but I enjoyed it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I just have an issue with why seventeen and
Speaker 1: eighteen had such different voices that, like, I know, for
Speaker 1: the viewers easy to distinguish him, but it doesn't really
Speaker 1: make sense.
Speaker 2: Imagine you got Go seven over here with my beautiful,
Speaker 2: deep broadcasting voice, and then Goo eight is over here talking.
Speaker 1: Like this do you everythink you got?
Speaker 2: And Stan City excite bike Mania? What in this movie
Speaker 2: got you going? There are a couple laugh out loud
Speaker 2: scenes that did I like, I really enjoyed. Uh. There
Speaker 2: was a dinner scene in this movie that I thought
Speaker 2: was really it was almost suspenseful, but it was funny
Speaker 2: the physical stuff and it was really good. Pattinson eating
Speaker 2: like a maniac was really funny. I thought that might
Speaker 2: have been the closest thing to enjoyment wise, like what
Speaker 2: I was expecting out of this whole movie.
Speaker 1: Yeah, to your point I think with this movie really
Speaker 1: needed to take it up on another level with some
Speaker 1: more suspense, some more thrilling stuff in the movie that
Speaker 1: they did a little bit when eighteen first arrives on scene.
Speaker 1: They just didn't do enough of a little bit of
Speaker 1: I'm not really sure what's gonna happen over the next
Speaker 1: ten minutes. It just didn't have enough of that. And
Speaker 1: because of that, there's like no real standout scene for me,
Speaker 1: no real pants tent moment. I think what eighteen does
Speaker 1: towards the end of this movie is supposed to qualify
Speaker 1: for this. It just doesn't hit.
Speaker 2: They also they also start a sex scene and don't
Speaker 2: finish it. So come on, guys, good callback.
Speaker 1: I guess to the sex position.
Speaker 2: So I don't know a right we don't do that.
Speaker 2: If you start it, you gotta stop it. St up.
Speaker 2: What's the next part of the song?
Speaker 1: Start me, yup?
Speaker 2: Start? I never saw Maybe.
Speaker 1: It's like springles.
Speaker 2: Once you pop, that's it. Once you pop, the fun
Speaker 2: don't stop. That's how I view yes live.
Speaker 1: What if? In fact, it is the option for me?
Speaker 1: Once I pop, the funds immediately over.
Speaker 2: What's I pop? The depression kicks right back in.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that clarity, the post of that clarity.
Speaker 2: Oh boy, all right, for those of you tarreety to
Speaker 2: the Mac and Goo party, Mac, how many hot dogs
Speaker 2: hot at forty would you give this movie you?
Speaker 1: This movie is enjoyable. It made me laugh aloud multiple times.
Speaker 1: Pattinson's great, The secondary characters are pretty funny. Bong June
Speaker 1: Hoe is clearly intentionally hitting us with certain themes. I
Speaker 1: do think that's gonna bother some based on the landscape
Speaker 1: these days, but but it's a constant presence in his work.
Speaker 1: It just is what he does. With that said, I
Speaker 1: think the premise and all the possibilities that were built
Speaker 1: in to the technology and the sci fi and the
Speaker 1: galactic adventure in this it just didn't quite meet my expectations.
Speaker 1: It didn't satisfy that. It does possess some sharp, like
Speaker 1: satirical things in here that are like kind of witty
Speaker 1: and I don't know, it's just like like we've been
Speaker 1: harping on a little bit. It just didn't quite possess
Speaker 1: that left turn, that pants tent, that thrilling or suspenseful
Speaker 1: moment that really would make this movie stick with you.
Speaker 1: So if you're coming into this expecting something on the
Speaker 1: level of say Parasite, you're gonna be I think disappointed.
Speaker 1: If you come in fresh just expecting a decent little
Speaker 1: like sci fi comedy, I think you're gonna be pretty satisfied.
Speaker 1: I think it does enough to get that qualification. So
Speaker 1: I have this at like thirty two maybe thirty three
Speaker 1: hot Dogs and is my number one movie of twenty
Speaker 1: twenty five so far, one out of two. If I'm
Speaker 1: comparing some this to some movies from last year, I
Speaker 1: think it would have slotted into like that third seen
Speaker 1: of fifteen range, with movies like Beetlejuice, Beetlejuice, Kingdom of
Speaker 1: the Player of the Apes and Furiosa. Furiosa is I'm
Speaker 1: feeling a little bit like that, where there's like a
Speaker 1: stand up performance, there's some fun. It's probably better than
Speaker 1: people are giving a credit for it, but it's not
Speaker 1: gonna make a ton of money.
Speaker 2: I go Furiosa though, just because you have that, you
Speaker 2: have that villain, you have pants ten scenes in Furiosa.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Furiosa might be better than this, but it's it's
Speaker 1: I think it's in that same range.
Speaker 2: Okay, well, mac I had fun. I thought that a
Speaker 2: good portion of This was actually really funny. I laughed
Speaker 2: out loud at several scenes. I already brought up that
Speaker 2: dinner scene that I loved Pattinson rules. I thought that
Speaker 2: his physical comedy in this is something that we haven't
Speaker 2: seen before. I mean, good times. It wasn't necessarily physical comedy,
Speaker 2: but physically how he played that role in that movie
Speaker 2: is different too. I really loved there was a sweet
Speaker 2: third act scene that showed the love that Nasha truly
Speaker 2: had for Mickey, and I thought it. I thought it
Speaker 2: rounded her. It also rounded out his life as well.
Speaker 2: The four and a half years on the ship kind
Speaker 2: of sucks, but you do truly have each other. And
Speaker 2: I really really liked.
Speaker 1: That twenty thirty minutes kind of made her look like
Speaker 1: a gigantic piece of shit. So it was a good like, oh,
Speaker 1: we're starting to not like her, yeah, and they show that, like,
Speaker 1: actually we love her.
Speaker 2: Where it showed that he wasn't alone, He was never
Speaker 2: alone on this shit. Nice, really nice scene it was.
Speaker 2: I thought that it was a pretty good sci fi
Speaker 2: one to two locations. It didn't get too creative with
Speaker 2: its worlds or with its creatures. You can take that,
Speaker 2: you can you can love it or hate that, but
Speaker 2: I thought that they didn't. I guess, like creatively, you'd
Speaker 2: really want more. But I didn't mind them. I didn't
Speaker 2: mind them doing that because I think ice planets always
Speaker 2: look nice. I just questioned why you want to go there.
Speaker 1: Or like a little more time on the planet than
Speaker 1: what we got.
Speaker 2: I was looking for more in that sex scene. The conclusion,
Speaker 2: it's okay. I thought it was too obvious and it
Speaker 2: did go on a bit too long. But the way
Speaker 2: that I looked at I said this to you after
Speaker 2: the movie is this was almost like this feels like
Speaker 2: a perfect Saturday afternoon, Sunday afternoon. You're flipping through and
Speaker 2: this movie's on TNT, this movie's on TBS, and you say,
Speaker 2: you know what, I'll watch this. It's a It's a
Speaker 2: perfect cable movie that you aren't spending too much, you
Speaker 2: aren't investing you know, money into your fine watching it
Speaker 2: with commercials. You're here to kill time with it. And
Speaker 2: I thought it did a good job at that, and
Speaker 2: not enough movies are like that anymore. It doesn't really
Speaker 2: have anything to do with too many ips. It's based
Speaker 2: off a book. I don't know if there's multiple books
Speaker 2: that go with this, but I had fun thirty three
Speaker 2: hot Dogs.
Speaker 1: I don't really think you did say that instaly, and
Speaker 1: I was thinking about it, and I don't really feel
Speaker 1: the same way you do about that. And maybe it's
Speaker 1: just the way we view cable movies, because I think
Speaker 1: this is like a better quality than a cable movie.
Speaker 1: It's more of a thinker than a cable movie. And
Speaker 1: it's also like less rewatch that you want it would
Speaker 1: want it to be for a cable movie, So I
Speaker 1: don't it doesn't really qualify for me as like a
Speaker 1: so here's the whole thing Saturday movies.
Speaker 2: And we're gonna do this in mac sack. But cable
Speaker 2: movies really range in how good they are.
Speaker 1: Mac Yeah, but you want them to be like myn
Speaker 1: numbing and this isn't mind numbing. This actually has some
Speaker 1: like witty satirical things and some social commentary to it.
Speaker 1: It's like it's it's just.
Speaker 2: I would argue that the best cable movie of all
Speaker 2: time is a forty hot dog like well thought out,
Speaker 2: well written, should have won an oscar movie. Shooter, yees, shooter,
Speaker 2: I hope you added shooter. I didn't put shooter on there.
Speaker 2: Shooters great Shooters is great. Damon and Elias Ktais love shoots.
Speaker 1: Mark k Wohlberg.
Speaker 2: Oh, I was thinking of what's the one with Matt Damon?
Speaker 2: What's the matter?
Speaker 1: You're thinking of a Born movie?
Speaker 2: You you jump into sports.
Speaker 1: The hat movie with the guy from uh that show
Speaker 1: that I don't like.
Speaker 2: It's not a hat movie with shooter movie? What am
Speaker 2: I thinking of?
Speaker 1: Spoilers sparker spoiler spoilers.
Speaker 2: Okay, look it is Wallberg, but Elias Kataus is in
Speaker 2: the movie. So I was just picturing. They're all a
Speaker 2: bunch of Boston boys. They all look the same.
Speaker 1: Oh, Katay is one of the bad guys. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: come on, and you got what's his name? The guy
Speaker 1: that gives the recaps an ant.
Speaker 2: Man, Michael Pena, Michael Panny Glover.
Speaker 1: You know, it's a great Michael Penham movie and better
Speaker 1: than a cable movie is end of Watch with him
Speaker 1: and Jake Joenhall.
Speaker 2: You know it's a bad one, Chips.
Speaker 1: Deel, I'll never watch it. I'll just believe you.
Speaker 2: That's a big Dax Shepherd movie though.
Speaker 1: Yeah, big Dax Shepherd vehicle. We're we're all clamoring for
Speaker 1: those uh spoilers for Mickey seventeen. At the end of
Speaker 1: this movie or at the zenith of this movie, Mickey
Speaker 1: eighteen sacrifices himself in order to kill Kenneth Marshall played
Speaker 1: by Ruffalo, and save Mickey seventeen, Nasha and their potential
Speaker 1: colony on Nifflheim. This is what you and I are
Speaker 1: talking about as the really telegraphed obvious conclusion to the movie.
Speaker 1: You knew it was coming from a million miles away.
Speaker 1: I was fine with it. It makes sense lotistically. I
Speaker 1: just didn't love it, dude. My biggest thing here is
Speaker 1: Mickey seventeen and eighteen are so drastically different and like
Speaker 1: in theory than the same person with same experiences. So
Speaker 1: I didn't really love how different they were. I get
Speaker 1: you would have certain versions of yourself that'd be a
Speaker 1: little more confident or a little more assholary than you
Speaker 1: normally are.
Speaker 2: But this was almost too much of a too much
Speaker 2: nice to day.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I didn't love that. Honestly. Maybe that's because we
Speaker 1: also didn't get more Mickeys like you were referring to.
Speaker 1: They all felt like seventeen.
Speaker 2: That's a good point. So leading up to seventeen, they
Speaker 2: all felt like the same person, and then eighteen was different.
Speaker 2: Maybe if they he didn't say.
Speaker 1: He did say, like five was this and seven was this,
Speaker 1: we just didn't see it, so it doesn't hit as
Speaker 1: much for the viewer.
Speaker 2: That's a good point. The scene that I was talking about, well,
Speaker 2: we'll talk about two scenes. But Mickey, his big thing
Speaker 2: in the movie is that he hates being asked what
Speaker 2: it's like to die, and you pretty much up to
Speaker 2: a certain point in the movie, just always assume that
Speaker 2: he's by himself and he needs to deal with death
Speaker 2: by himself. And there's a scene at the end and
Speaker 2: it kind of flips it on its head because they
Speaker 2: showed at the beginning the same thing, but then they
Speaker 2: showed the conclusion of it at the end where Nasha
Speaker 2: she does put the suit on, but she gets into
Speaker 2: a tank where Mickey is dying, and it does seem
Speaker 2: like whenever she had the possibility, she would always be
Speaker 2: there for him in death.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And that's really like a little bit what I'm
Speaker 1: referring to here with this movie is like a level
Speaker 1: above a cable TV movie, because that is incredibly traumatic
Speaker 1: for someone to watch a loved one die and.
Speaker 2: She has to go through this over and over again.
Speaker 2: You can never really think about in this movie how she's
Speaker 2: dealing with it.
Speaker 1: One hundred percent, And they almost don't spend enough time
Speaker 1: on that because once you start to think about you're like, oh, fuck,
Speaker 1: that is fucked up. And it does like it does
Speaker 1: speak to something else that the rest of the movie
Speaker 1: doesn't really talk about, and it does show how much
Speaker 1: Nasa really does love him. Also an aside to that
Speaker 1: is there's a moment in this movie where the woman Kai,
Speaker 1: who looks like Monica Blucci, her like friend dies but
Speaker 1: it's more of a love interest dies when they're out
Speaker 1: on a mission on Niffelheim, and so she's dealing with
Speaker 1: this and there's a nice moment where she asks him
Speaker 1: what it's like to die because she looked in her
Speaker 1: loved one's eyes right beforehand, and it it I question.
Speaker 1: I was really intrigued as to where this was gonna
Speaker 1: go with that character and the multiple of mickeys, and
Speaker 1: we get no conclusion to that.
Speaker 2: He also just disappears.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's weird. It's like it's like they had more
Speaker 1: planned for her, but they cut out, like her extra
Speaker 1: ten minutes that was maybe gonna be in the third act.
Speaker 1: I don't know, it's it was bizarre.
Speaker 2: And also, look at Nasha, how so she's dealt with
Speaker 2: all of these mickeys. She's dealt with seventeen mickeys, so
Speaker 2: when one dies, she needs to then sit back and go, Okay,
Speaker 2: what's this mickey personality going to be right? Right?
Speaker 1: And it's it's honestly a lot like we didn't get
Speaker 1: enough from Nash's point of view, and I get that's
Speaker 1: not necessarily the point of the movie, but it is
Speaker 1: the prevailing like emotional stuff you're left with from the movie.
Speaker 1: You're like, oh shit, Nasha's been through a lot. They
Speaker 1: don't spend a lot of time on it, and it
Speaker 1: does show through when she saves him and sticks up
Speaker 1: for him in these final moments. But we just needed
Speaker 1: a little bit more of that as well.
Speaker 2: Yeah, So the dinner scene that I was talking about earlier,
Speaker 2: I loved it. He is first off's his rations have
Speaker 2: been cut in half. He's barely eating. He was just
Speaker 2: on an ice planet for days. Possibly he gets back
Speaker 2: and he gets to have the steak dinner. The steak
Speaker 2: looks disgusting, but so bad. He is just going to
Speaker 2: town on it. He is eating so so much of it.
Speaker 2: He gets sick from it. The physical work that Pattinson
Speaker 2: is doing. In this scene where he's just throwing himself around,
Speaker 2: he's throwing up, he gets a shot in the neck.
Speaker 2: They're like, all right, put him of his misery. No,
Speaker 2: Like he's.
Speaker 1: So good in this seed then like the sign just
Speaker 1: come in and so like totally. Stuff isn't always like
Speaker 1: maybe what it should be. It's a little off because
Speaker 1: he's trying to match these two things together and it
Speaker 1: works great in some scenes. Other scenes it doesn't work.
Speaker 2: I agree.
Speaker 1: I like it just felt like I'm not disappointed because
Speaker 1: it's a good movie. I'm just left thinking about that,
Speaker 1: like his best work is gonna be much better than this,
Speaker 1: Like I am. I am, like I have a desire
Speaker 1: a want for something better than this, not that this
Speaker 1: isn't good.
Speaker 2: All right, So I'll say thirty three hot dogs. I'm
Speaker 2: not sure if you have to see it in theaters,
Speaker 2: but I do recommend eventually seeing it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think I always recommend something to this level
Speaker 1: of like CGI and sci fi. It's probably good to
Speaker 1: see in theaters on a bigger screen with bigger sound.
Speaker 2: That's because you're Sean Baker, and you're saying we need
Speaker 2: to support people, we need to get in there.
Speaker 1: I don't think you're gonna miss much though, if you
Speaker 1: don't see this on the big screen.
Speaker 2: Plus, there's no popcorn bucket for it.
Speaker 1: True, you did got popcorn this time.
Speaker 2: Oh, I got popcorn. I went to town on that popcorn.
Speaker 1: By the way, those seats next to me were wide
Speaker 1: open the whole.
Speaker 2: Movie, I know, but they didn't say press. So I
Speaker 2: didn't want to break the rules.
Speaker 1: It was a weird experience.
Speaker 2: Much like everyone on that ship. I follow the rules.
Speaker 2: Let's get into Mac sach all right, So Mac, back
Speaker 2: to your sac And I compared this to a movie
Speaker 2: that you might just fall into on a Saturday. And
Speaker 2: I am going to ask you, Mac, I have a
Speaker 2: list here of movies that are well known for playing
Speaker 2: on say TNT, TBS, VH one E, you know, all
Speaker 2: of the big channels, Comedy Central. I'm going to ask
Speaker 2: you to pull some of these out here and give
Speaker 2: me either a mount Rushmore or a six pack of
Speaker 2: the best cable movie television movies. I said that wrong,
Speaker 2: either way, Shall I get started? So once again, not
Speaker 2: the best movies, but the best four when they are
Speaker 2: on cable shosh Ank Redemption.
Speaker 1: Obviously you get shosh by it every time, but it
Speaker 1: removes a couple of the most emotional scenes and it's
Speaker 1: just too good to be a cable TV movie anything.
Speaker 2: Nicholas Cage, I.
Speaker 1: Would say The Rock for me. Some people might say
Speaker 1: Face Off or con Air. I would go The Rock
Speaker 1: is definitely on my Mount Rushmore of cable television movies.
Speaker 1: Point Break, that's a good one. That's a good one. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's not on my Mount Rushmore, but it's a good one. Roadhouse, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'd say this is kind of this is kind of
Speaker 1: what we're talking about here.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Independence Day, that's a good one.
Speaker 1: It almost seems too significant to be a cable TV movie,
Speaker 1: but it feels like a good one.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Miscongeniality, Yeah, okay, like a PG PG thirteen comedy
Speaker 2: with a little bit of highjinks.
Speaker 1: That's not necessarily what I would think of what a
Speaker 1: cable TV movie, but it might qualify.
Speaker 2: Because it's also a comedy that you're not gonna find, say,
Speaker 2: on Comedy Central, this is one that you would find
Speaker 2: on TBS or.
Speaker 1: Teams A good point, strong point, Grease Come on good.
Speaker 1: It's one of the greatest musicals of all time, maybe
Speaker 1: the greatest.
Speaker 2: It's not as good as Grease too, any of the
Speaker 2: Miss Impossibles. The first three really do feel like cable movies,
Speaker 2: right yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a good point, But I don't love the
Speaker 1: third one is where it kicks up with Phil Seemour Hoffman.
Speaker 1: That's where it maybe kicks up. Maybe you throw that
Speaker 1: one in here, but the yeah, okay, yeah, I'd be
Speaker 1: okay with.
Speaker 2: Picking one of those, the Ocean's trilogy.
Speaker 1: I would just say a Sodaberg like movie, a movie
Speaker 1: like The Ocean's movies might qualify. Let's say Ocean's Oceans twelve.
Speaker 1: How about the sequel? So I got the Rock and
Speaker 1: Ocean's twelve.
Speaker 2: Okay, so you do have two on your mountain Rushmore.
Speaker 2: The next one I almost don't even want to count.
Speaker 2: Indiana Jones feels the most out of the franchise. Is
Speaker 2: like it's one of those cable movies, but you have
Speaker 2: Star Wars that are constantly running in their marathons, Harry Potter,
Speaker 2: Marvel movies where you know, we love Marvel, but they've
Speaker 2: kind of killed the cable movie, right, Yeah.
Speaker 1: This is tough because they are constantly on cable television.
Speaker 1: But it's it's it's just it's not at all what
Speaker 1: I'm considering.
Speaker 2: No, but also because they're constantly playing these movies, they
Speaker 2: aren't playing say like Blackhawk Down anymore.
Speaker 1: Right right, Speed Speed's a good one. Speeds are I
Speaker 1: feel like that. I feel like the range maybe because
Speaker 1: of us, but also because of cable TV is late
Speaker 1: eighties to early two thousands, like solid action movies. Maybe
Speaker 1: your miscongenialities with some comedy too.
Speaker 2: Caddy Shack.
Speaker 1: I just don't like caddies.
Speaker 2: You're stupid, You're dumb. You just don't get the humor.
Speaker 2: It's over your head.
Speaker 1: Forrest Gump, now this is a good one because it's
Speaker 1: not nearly as good as Shas Shank, but it's also
Speaker 1: like maybe it's I mean, is it better than cable
Speaker 1: TV quality?
Speaker 2: I don't know. No, So first off, these are all
Speaker 2: better than cable TV quality. It's just a movie that
Speaker 2: you always find on cable TV. Is a good one
Speaker 2: because Forrest Gump is also one that, like when it's on,
Speaker 2: you'll just pick up at different like random points and like,
Speaker 2: all right, fucking I'll just watch Forrest Gump.
Speaker 1: Fororst Gump might be on there, yeah, because it's also
Speaker 1: like it has so many detractors too, that it's kind
Speaker 1: of it gets knocked down a couple couple runs. So maybe, yeah, maybe.
Speaker 2: Forrest Gump House Party that was.
Speaker 1: Party's a good one. Okay, maybe maybe more like Friday
Speaker 1: kind of, but then you're getting into like they cut
Speaker 1: out some of the best scenes of the movie. Friday's
Speaker 1: another good one. Joe Dirt, Ah, Joe Dirt's just almost
Speaker 1: not good enough. It used to be on Comedy Central
Speaker 1: so much. I love Joe Dirt. Do I have Joe
Speaker 1: Dirt behind me?
Speaker 2: I might?
Speaker 1: Actually, Joe Dirt would not be up there for me.
Speaker 1: Off of Space, Off Space is a good one. That's
Speaker 1: a good one. And that's sort of that late nineties
Speaker 1: early two thousands comedy that didn't quite do well at
Speaker 1: all in the theater too, So that's a pretty good one.
Speaker 2: The next one you better have on there, and that
Speaker 2: is The Rush Hours.
Speaker 1: I feel like those are almost two good but you're
Speaker 1: right they are. They played on cable constantly when we
Speaker 1: were grown up.
Speaker 2: They like wouldn't only play on like the action networks.
Speaker 2: They wouldn't just play on Spike TV. They would also
Speaker 2: be on Comedy Central.
Speaker 1: Yeah, crossover.
Speaker 2: The crossover appeal is through the roof. Like earlier, when
Speaker 2: I was when I was doing my research for this,
Speaker 2: I saw that I saw that drum line played in
Speaker 2: the year twenty twenty twenty eight times on VH one,
Speaker 2: just VH one.
Speaker 1: That's all like once every other week.
Speaker 2: That's a lot. If you think about it, your you aren't.
Speaker 2: You're playing drum line a lot.
Speaker 1: Give me drumline on Tuesdays and Thursdays.
Speaker 2: Coyote Ugly, that's a solid one.
Speaker 1: That movie just kind of sucks.
Speaker 2: Though, speaking of being disappointed by a movie when you're
Speaker 2: telling eleven twelve years old and you see the commercials
Speaker 2: for Coyote Ugly and you say, I am going to
Speaker 2: have myself at time with Coyote.
Speaker 1: J Iira Banks, these other people, A few good Men.
Speaker 1: That's way too good.
Speaker 2: That was always on though it was it was always on.
Speaker 2: Same thing with Saving Private Ryan.
Speaker 1: Yeah, also way too good.
Speaker 2: Jumanji Original one nineteen ninety five. Obviously Jamuji and Jamiji
Speaker 2: is a good one. Terminator one two three eventually got
Speaker 2: on there.
Speaker 1: Yeah, those were constantly playing as well. But I feel like,
Speaker 1: that's too good. I'm thinking about it. So if I
Speaker 1: had to make a Mount Rushmore.
Speaker 2: Oh, by the way, you can add Shooter and water
Speaker 2: World if you want.
Speaker 1: Yeah, give me the good point, give me the Rock,
Speaker 1: give me Shooter, give me water World, and give me miscongeniality.
Speaker 1: I may go Gump, but give me one. Give me
Speaker 1: something from the Ocean's Trilogy for okay. So that is
Speaker 1: your Mount Rushmore. Of when you're going through the cable
Speaker 1: channels the movie is on. You know that some of
Speaker 1: the stuff is cut out. You know that there's commercials,
Speaker 1: and you're gonna stop and watch. Yeah, and look about you.
Speaker 2: I'll go, uh, a Nicholas Cage movie. I will say,
Speaker 2: can now face off? I want face off? I will
Speaker 2: say misking geniality. It was always on and I would
Speaker 2: always stop and watch it. I will say Joe Dirt,
Speaker 2: I love Joe Dirt, all right, A stab you the
Speaker 2: neck with a soder and iron. You forget the Christopher
Speaker 2: Walkins in that movie. I love Brittany Daniel, Brittany Daniel
Speaker 2: and Jamie Presley. Yeah, and then uh, what was always
Speaker 2: on that I would always watch?
Speaker 1: I'm I just put office space. Can I take an
Speaker 1: ocean out and put an office space for my form.
Speaker 2: You can put in office space that way, you have
Speaker 2: a comedy. Shit, what else would I put in there?
Speaker 2: M it's Pat. It's Pat. Was never on a Night
Speaker 2: at the Roxbury. A Night at the Roxbury. I just
Speaker 2: caught on the National Lampoon channel. And I do want
Speaker 2: to give you credit. You said that Molly Shannon in
Speaker 2: the late nineties was a nice looking lady. And you
Speaker 2: know what that movie she looks great. She does look
Speaker 2: very good. I also I forgot it's not a good movie.
Speaker 2: It's funny, though it is funny. You know who's very
Speaker 2: good in it? Uh? Dan Isaiah. He plays the father
Speaker 2: of the Bhutabs.
Speaker 1: When's the last time you watched Corky Romana.
Speaker 2: I haven't seen it in quite some time. But you
Speaker 2: guys want some cookies East that's very good. But there's
Speaker 2: a part in a Night at the Roxbury which I
Speaker 2: guess I'll just put on here. Who cares? But where
Speaker 2: Dan Isaiah is asking Will Ferrell how he's feeling on
Speaker 2: the day before his wedding, and he's like, you ever
Speaker 2: just feel like when she's sleeping you want to smother
Speaker 2: her with the pillow and just wait until the last
Speaker 2: dying breath is just leaving her body. And Dan Isaiah
Speaker 2: is like, that's perfectly normal. Maybe I didn't deliver it
Speaker 2: as well as he did, but I like it because
Speaker 2: he's a very concerned look on his face the entire time.
Speaker 2: Will Ferrell is talking to him.
Speaker 1: What's the divorce rate like in the world these days?
Speaker 1: That's I feel like that's a that was a sentiment
Speaker 1: by a lot of people over the last twenty years.
Speaker 1: So they'd like to smother their significant other just until
Speaker 1: the break of death, the point of death, and they'll
Speaker 1: let it go.
Speaker 2: Dan Hudeia, it's Dan Hudaya, not Haseia, by the way, Okay,
Speaker 2: he is one of those unsung heroes of the nineties.
Speaker 2: They pop of it everyone once in a while, and
Speaker 2: he would he would just play his role. He'd just
Speaker 2: do his look at him and now clueless, who shares dad, Dan.
Speaker 1: Hud Hey, that's a good one for.
Speaker 2: Wasn't really that wasn't really a cable like I'll run.
Speaker 1: Paul Rudd, Alicia Silverstone, Murphy.
Speaker 2: Can I count Blast from the Past or was that
Speaker 2: not on cable enough?
Speaker 1: Is that? Brendan Fraser Frasier Crazier.
Speaker 2: Sorry, Alicia Silverstone?
Speaker 1: Could I count?
Speaker 2: We just start going back and forth our dumb favorite
Speaker 2: movies from that time.
Speaker 1: Could I count the music video by Oxmith? I don't
Speaker 1: want to miss a thing with Alicia Silverstone and Live Tyler?
Speaker 1: Does that count?
Speaker 2: Can I count the the TLC video Red Light Special?
Speaker 2: What else we got? Monkey Bone? Want to count? Monkey Bone?
Speaker 1: Okay?
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Speaker 2: podcast is done. That's a rule he reached.
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Speaker 2: I think we covered all of the movies that are
Speaker 2: behind the Mummy was a good late edition. The Mummy is.
Speaker 2: I have such fond memories of driving to Canada in
Speaker 2: a giant bus with our with our hockey team and
Speaker 2: watching the Money. Yeah, because that was a movie for
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Speaker 1: It also gave us Rachel Weiss in like a corsette,
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