WEBVTT 1 00:00:01.919 --> 00:00:05.559 It's the Lapsed Fan Wrestling podcast with Jack and carn 2 00:00:05.639 --> 00:00:07.639 s e O and JP Sorrow. 3 00:00:09.519 --> 00:00:13.679 He's a lapsed fan and all my years and wrestling. 4 00:00:13.480 --> 00:00:21.480 I never seen anything. 5 00:00:21.000 --> 00:00:23.039 And it's the laps fan man like the one in 6 00:00:23.079 --> 00:00:23.480 the ring. 7 00:00:23.839 --> 00:00:26.440 Forget about Sado. He the real king of swing. When 8 00:00:26.440 --> 00:00:29.519 the bell goes in the kick like me throwing in 9 00:00:29.600 --> 00:00:32.560 the corner, but gets rash like stick even Jerry King 10 00:00:32.759 --> 00:00:35.280 gets take off. The crowd nodded in his head like 11 00:00:35.320 --> 00:00:37.719 its Steve low Brown. Would you get low down? We 12 00:00:38.039 --> 00:00:39.079 go even high up? 13 00:00:39.240 --> 00:00:41.439 Flipp you on your head, but you know cool driver, 14 00:00:42.039 --> 00:00:44.960 you speak more and Dragon spits fire give you more 15 00:00:45.039 --> 00:00:47.840 shock than when he treats higher drop a more truth 16 00:00:47.920 --> 00:00:50.719 than the con of sniper unless you with a coconut 17 00:00:50.880 --> 00:00:54.039 Roddy Pipper Jack a JP. He like j h D 18 00:00:54.280 --> 00:00:57.119 drop the cupcakes and gold the brain Bob means the 19 00:00:57.200 --> 00:00:59.920 best podcast Frost start the close cloud if you are 20 00:01:00.719 --> 00:01:02.079 it's a five second polls. 21 00:01:02.320 --> 00:01:04.959 Welcome back to w c W. 22 00:01:05.239 --> 00:01:09.920 SID Basically ship man, it's Vince and you know better 23 00:01:10.000 --> 00:01:12.439 than this shit. We don't book a flight and a 24 00:01:12.560 --> 00:01:15.000 match on the same day that you're arriving England, so 25 00:01:15.120 --> 00:01:17.200 we go over there. We fly in the frank fot 26 00:01:17.239 --> 00:01:20.079 driven and stuff. We have to drive driving an hour 27 00:01:20.239 --> 00:01:21.359 whatever we go do this show. 28 00:01:21.599 --> 00:01:22.319 We got to drive. 29 00:01:22.760 --> 00:01:25.159 H We drove like three hours, excuse me, like three 30 00:01:25.239 --> 00:01:27.959 hours to show off an airplane, got to the building, 31 00:01:28.079 --> 00:01:29.840 we did the show. After the show, we had like 32 00:01:29.879 --> 00:01:32.280 a three or four hours drive, maybe even five back 33 00:01:32.319 --> 00:01:35.760 to the hotel where we stand at Frankfurt, and you know, hey, 34 00:01:35.840 --> 00:01:38.120 everybody's on the fucking bus. You start taking pills, you 35 00:01:38.200 --> 00:01:40.799 have a few drinks. You know, shit start getting heated. 36 00:01:40.920 --> 00:01:43.239 Next thing, you know, everybody talking about this motherfucker making money. 37 00:01:43.319 --> 00:01:46.519 That motherfucker making money. Rick Flair on Anderson started talking 38 00:01:46.560 --> 00:01:50.079 about Flair this that the money she started gotting heated ship. 39 00:01:50.200 --> 00:01:51.920 Next thing you know, we get back to the hotel, 40 00:01:52.319 --> 00:01:54.959 flying on Anderson bitch and wanting. Next thing, you know, 41 00:01:55.120 --> 00:01:58.519 beers flying across the table, the dylaner, the rental copy 42 00:01:58.640 --> 00:02:00.599 and they're trying to break motherfuckers up up. They sell 43 00:02:00.680 --> 00:02:03.799 that ship down. Some more shit fly. The next thing 44 00:02:03.840 --> 00:02:06.599 you know, Sid throws the fucking beer, Doug sending the 45 00:02:06.640 --> 00:02:09.879 guys to the room. Everybody's like fuck it. Everybody goes 46 00:02:09.919 --> 00:02:12.240 to the room. Ship I'm up there getting hashed out, 47 00:02:12.680 --> 00:02:15.960 ship smoking big hash and shut. But I hear somebody. 48 00:02:16.000 --> 00:02:18.919 I'm like, what the fuck somebody fainting. I'm thinking it's Vader. 49 00:02:19.319 --> 00:02:21.960 I'm like, God, damn it, Vader off his starting shit 50 00:02:22.039 --> 00:02:23.080 with somebody again. 51 00:02:23.280 --> 00:02:23.439 Man. 52 00:02:23.800 --> 00:02:25.599 So I'm like, you know, scorp, I'm about the only 53 00:02:25.680 --> 00:02:29.080 motherfucker calming down, bringing back, like, hey, man, just leave 54 00:02:29.080 --> 00:02:31.080 it alone. So I go over to the Vader. Shit, 55 00:02:32.520 --> 00:02:35.080 I ain't the mother fuckering through the door. I'm like, damn, 56 00:02:35.159 --> 00:02:37.599 I go down the heading ship. I go down the steps. 57 00:02:37.840 --> 00:02:40.319 I see blood gall over, blood on the left, blood 58 00:02:40.400 --> 00:02:42.960 on the right, blood all down the fucking hallway. Shit, 59 00:02:43.319 --> 00:02:45.199 I'll keep on walking. I get down to the fucking 60 00:02:45.240 --> 00:02:47.680 hend the hallway. I'm not even the goddamn child. I 61 00:02:47.840 --> 00:02:51.080 get down there. Man, Iron, Anders and Sivis down their brawl, 62 00:02:51.120 --> 00:02:54.240 and they covered the fucking blood. Sid Vicious got the 63 00:02:54.360 --> 00:02:57.159 sizs got Iron Andison boy the hair. He's booting him 64 00:02:57.159 --> 00:02:59.560 in the fucking face, stamping him with the scizzors every 65 00:02:59.639 --> 00:03:01.840 which way, every place he can fuck of stamp. Arn 66 00:03:01.879 --> 00:03:05.039 Anderson got blood just spitting down like a fucking horror movie. 67 00:03:05.120 --> 00:03:08.039 And shit, man, so I was like, Damn, finally I 68 00:03:08.120 --> 00:03:11.240 see Seeing kicking Arn Anderson nose doesn't want a He 69 00:03:11.360 --> 00:03:14.520 turned straight the fuck up, and I'm like, Damn, I 70 00:03:14.759 --> 00:03:16.759 jumped in boom, push him a partner. 71 00:03:16.800 --> 00:03:17.039 Shit. 72 00:03:17.840 --> 00:03:20.319 Arn Anderson kind of falls against the wall from half 73 00:03:20.439 --> 00:03:22.719 drunk and half locks of blood and shit. 74 00:03:22.800 --> 00:03:25.280 You know, he kind of stumbles against the wall. Seeing 75 00:03:25.439 --> 00:03:26.400 kind of steps back. 76 00:03:26.520 --> 00:03:28.159 He looks at me, and I just stepped back in 77 00:03:28.240 --> 00:03:30.039 my stands like Damn said, I don't have to take 78 00:03:30.080 --> 00:03:31.800 you down. You know what I'm saying, But they she 79 00:03:31.960 --> 00:03:34.879 gotta stop. Sid just looked at me, freaked out, ran 80 00:03:34.960 --> 00:03:37.360 toward the back door. The door was locked. He kicked 81 00:03:37.400 --> 00:03:40.879 the motherfucker, shout at the fucking door, fucking pushed it open, 82 00:03:41.520 --> 00:03:44.599 ran out. He scooped around to the front and Vader 83 00:03:44.759 --> 00:03:47.560 just having to be sitting down there wife tried to 84 00:03:47.599 --> 00:03:50.120 call his wife and stuff down in his underwear and 85 00:03:50.680 --> 00:03:52.719 and and endland and in Germany, Man they locked the 86 00:03:52.759 --> 00:03:54.719 doors at twelve o'clock, one o'clock. If you're not back 87 00:03:54.719 --> 00:03:56.639 in the hotel, they locked the door, you have to 88 00:03:56.680 --> 00:03:59.479 buzz them they let you back in. So Seeing runs around. 89 00:03:59.560 --> 00:04:01.879 Vader's down in the lobby. See it runs into the 90 00:04:01.919 --> 00:04:04.039 fucking door. Shit, the door open, the sied It just 91 00:04:04.159 --> 00:04:06.919 fucking kicks the fucking door. The glass fucking shatter. He 92 00:04:07.039 --> 00:04:10.439 walks through the fucking glass, vanishing. They're freaking out there. 93 00:04:10.599 --> 00:04:13.520 The toples and holds him down, sit and spitting blood 94 00:04:13.560 --> 00:04:16.680 from his stomach and everything and stuff. You know, Man 95 00:04:16.839 --> 00:04:19.040 Rich the guys off, his guys all up in there. 96 00:04:19.360 --> 00:04:22.079 Next thing, you know, they fighting on the first floor. 97 00:04:22.160 --> 00:04:25.240 I mean right down by Rick Flair, Ricky Steve Boat's room, 98 00:04:25.439 --> 00:04:26.959 and I mean these guys are supposed to be their 99 00:04:27.000 --> 00:04:29.480 buddies and not one of these chicken shit motherfuckers. 100 00:04:29.560 --> 00:04:29.759 Mok. 101 00:04:29.800 --> 00:04:32.199 After goddamn room, I'm up born to goddamn set the 102 00:04:32.240 --> 00:04:33.720 floor and I gotta come down and break the shit up. 103 00:04:33.720 --> 00:04:34.319 That's bullshit. 104 00:04:34.800 --> 00:04:38.480 And then I'm not even office, but yet amulance police 105 00:04:38.560 --> 00:04:40.279 come up. They rope the shit off man, like this 106 00:04:40.399 --> 00:04:43.079 a damn murder case, you know what I'm saying. Next thing, 107 00:04:43.120 --> 00:04:45.519 you know, these guys going to the hospitals, and me 108 00:04:45.800 --> 00:04:47.920 and one of the office guys going to the hospital 109 00:04:47.959 --> 00:04:48.199 with them. 110 00:04:48.560 --> 00:04:50.040 So I'm over here filling out. 111 00:04:49.959 --> 00:04:52.319 Papers for him, filling our papers for sick and the 112 00:04:52.399 --> 00:04:55.279 real name the address the whole nine yard doing the 113 00:04:55.319 --> 00:04:57.000 same thing for Sid on this side. 114 00:04:57.319 --> 00:04:59.399 You know what I'm saying. I'm like, damn, you know 115 00:04:59.439 --> 00:04:59.839 what I'm. 116 00:04:59.680 --> 00:05:02.519 Saying, So seas you got to have exploratory surgery, you know, 117 00:05:02.959 --> 00:05:04.920 arms got to get passed up from head to toe. 118 00:05:05.040 --> 00:05:06.920 Dan there and shit with all these damn pests. They 119 00:05:07.000 --> 00:05:09.600 end up staying there for a week, two weeks, we 120 00:05:09.800 --> 00:05:11.839 move on. Next thing, you know, they end up going 121 00:05:11.920 --> 00:05:13.639 back home and they want to press charge. You want 122 00:05:13.680 --> 00:05:16.160 to lock the guys up. Hey, that was it, man? 123 00:05:17.439 --> 00:05:21.360 So I guess Sid's back in the territory. Who was 124 00:05:21.439 --> 00:05:22.839 that too cold Scorpio? 125 00:05:23.319 --> 00:05:25.079 Oh wow, I've never heard her speak. 126 00:05:25.600 --> 00:05:27.560 I was wondering if just my context clues you might 127 00:05:27.600 --> 00:05:31.720 pick it up. But yeah, smoking big hash. I feel 128 00:05:31.759 --> 00:05:34.399 like there have been a lot of people who you know, 129 00:05:34.839 --> 00:05:39.199 but Jesus Christ, that's a fucking riot. What do you 130 00:05:39.279 --> 00:05:41.439 know about the cid arn Anderson's stabbing incident? 131 00:05:41.839 --> 00:05:45.480 Uh, only what we've talked about in the past. You know, 132 00:05:45.639 --> 00:05:49.480 I know that it happened. I know I know that 133 00:05:50.319 --> 00:05:53.519 there's it's a I think, if I remember correctly, it's 134 00:05:53.519 --> 00:05:57.680 a little bit different than what legend would have you believe. 135 00:05:59.519 --> 00:06:02.600 I don't know why exactly, but I remember when we 136 00:06:02.720 --> 00:06:08.240 did Starkad, that Starkad ninety three that there was it 137 00:06:08.399 --> 00:06:13.879 was like it wasn't as it wasn't as one sided 138 00:06:13.920 --> 00:06:16.199 as as it seems. 139 00:06:17.160 --> 00:06:18.720 So let me ask you what a tribute to Sid 140 00:06:18.839 --> 00:06:21.000 and our arrival here on his chronology to his return 141 00:06:21.079 --> 00:06:23.639 to WCW in nineteen ninety three be a good time 142 00:06:23.920 --> 00:06:26.680 to perform a TLF autopsy on said matter. 143 00:06:27.079 --> 00:06:29.000 I would say there's no better time. 144 00:06:29.480 --> 00:06:32.439 And is it improper of me to refer to it 145 00:06:32.480 --> 00:06:34.879 as an autopsy considering both sliced each other open? 146 00:06:37.519 --> 00:06:39.680 I think there's no more appropriate term. 147 00:06:40.480 --> 00:06:42.399 This is fine, right, this is wrestling, so we have 148 00:06:42.560 --> 00:06:46.079 to we have to emphasize that, you know, Sid was 149 00:06:46.199 --> 00:06:48.240 nice to his grandkids over the fact that he nearly 150 00:06:48.319 --> 00:06:51.639 killed arn Anderson. Yeah, it's fine because we want to 151 00:06:51.800 --> 00:06:54.600 like Sid if if well, I don't know want to 152 00:06:54.800 --> 00:06:57.839 like Sid, but I mean, you know, the bottom line 153 00:06:57.959 --> 00:07:02.639 is it's wrestling, so so physical brutality and. 154 00:07:04.680 --> 00:07:08.000 You know, disregard for human life, disregard for human life 155 00:07:08.120 --> 00:07:12.279 and just sheer acts of violence are acceptable because it's 156 00:07:12.360 --> 00:07:15.560 fake and therefore, you know, how can it really hurt them? 157 00:07:15.839 --> 00:07:17.480 Even behind the scenes. That's so true. 158 00:07:17.560 --> 00:07:21.879 Yeah, when wrestlers really engage in an actual fight, it 159 00:07:22.160 --> 00:07:24.759 still kind of lands in the fans' minds and memories. 160 00:07:24.920 --> 00:07:27.720 Is just another fake squabble, you know, something that's more 161 00:07:27.720 --> 00:07:30.360 about legend and high spots than it is about the 162 00:07:30.439 --> 00:07:32.879 fact that, No, this is no longer bullshit, ladies and gentlemen. 163 00:07:32.920 --> 00:07:35.240 This is now a referendum on the characters of the 164 00:07:35.319 --> 00:07:39.879 individuals involved. And if you're Sid, if he wasn't the 165 00:07:39.959 --> 00:07:42.160 box office attraction he was, and wasn't able to command 166 00:07:42.279 --> 00:07:45.000 the money he was able to command, this sends his career. 167 00:07:45.360 --> 00:07:47.120 If he's even anywhere close to the mid card or 168 00:07:47.199 --> 00:07:48.879 the opening card he does something like this, you can 169 00:07:48.920 --> 00:07:52.519 forget about it. Yeah, And so, of course, no examination 170 00:07:52.959 --> 00:07:55.240 of the unique and remarkable career of Sid Uty as 171 00:07:55.279 --> 00:07:59.120 we're continuing to embark upon here on the lapsed Fan 172 00:07:59.160 --> 00:08:02.879 would be complete that a strict hard pause on nineteen 173 00:08:02.959 --> 00:08:06.120 ninety three, when, as we talked about last time, Sid 174 00:08:06.199 --> 00:08:08.639 has exited WWF in the spring of nineteen ninety two, 175 00:08:08.680 --> 00:08:12.279 after main eventing with Hulk Hogan at WrestleMania and Boss 176 00:08:12.399 --> 00:08:15.199 There's nothing more Sid than main eventing with Hogan at 177 00:08:15.199 --> 00:08:16.920 Mania and saying, fuck this, I'm out of here. 178 00:08:17.079 --> 00:08:20.720 Oh yeah, exactly, No, that's that's completely accurate. 179 00:08:20.800 --> 00:08:23.439 I'd much rather go to a territory that's on its ass, 180 00:08:23.480 --> 00:08:25.519 can barely put a thousand people in a building, if 181 00:08:25.560 --> 00:08:28.399 not five hundred in some towns. But it's still, you know, 182 00:08:28.560 --> 00:08:33.080 issuing checks that rely, that arrive in a predictable and 183 00:08:33.720 --> 00:08:36.159 steady manner in the mailbox, regardless of what I do 184 00:08:36.279 --> 00:08:36.639 or don't do. 185 00:08:37.120 --> 00:08:42.200 Yeah, of course, you know, the less reliable what you 186 00:08:42.320 --> 00:08:47.440 do in the ring, providing the most reliable you know, 187 00:08:47.720 --> 00:08:53.159 reimbursement of your talents and terms of financial gain is. 188 00:08:53.399 --> 00:08:55.000 Of course, that's the way it should be. 189 00:08:55.519 --> 00:08:57.360 I mean, if two Cold's version is to be believed, 190 00:08:57.360 --> 00:08:59.080 and for what it's worth, when he was alive, Sid 191 00:08:59.159 --> 00:09:02.159 did lend some creed to Scorpio's version, if only because 192 00:09:02.200 --> 00:09:06.159 he recalls Scorpio being around during the actual squabble with Arn, 193 00:09:06.320 --> 00:09:08.120 whereas a lot of other people like Vader were on 194 00:09:08.159 --> 00:09:11.000 the periphery and not eyewitnesses to the damn thing. Although 195 00:09:11.039 --> 00:09:13.120 I don't know how two Cold squares the fact that 196 00:09:13.159 --> 00:09:15.600 he saw Vader snoring like a mammoth in his hotel 197 00:09:15.679 --> 00:09:18.200 room and then later, Scorpio's down in the lobby in 198 00:09:18.240 --> 00:09:20.320 Vader's in his underwear talking to his wife on the payphone. 199 00:09:20.320 --> 00:09:21.759 I don't know how both can be possible within the 200 00:09:21.799 --> 00:09:22.720 span of a couple of minutes. 201 00:09:22.799 --> 00:09:23.919 But well, I mean it's Vader. 202 00:09:24.799 --> 00:09:27.639 Well, I think it's impossible because it is Vader. 203 00:09:27.679 --> 00:09:31.080 I mean, I see, this is the thing. I think 204 00:09:31.120 --> 00:09:33.120 it's impossible and possible because it's. 205 00:09:33.000 --> 00:09:36.440 Vader, and Vader certainly has his version. I mean, this 206 00:09:36.600 --> 00:09:40.600 is so Vader. Where's my credit for neither guy catching 207 00:09:40.600 --> 00:09:42.799 a murder charge because I plug a hole in Sid 208 00:09:42.919 --> 00:09:45.879 Vicious his stomach in the lobby. Vader wants to know 209 00:09:45.960 --> 00:09:47.200 why this whole thing isn't about him. 210 00:09:48.879 --> 00:09:51.879 I mean, I don't think that's wrong, you know, I 211 00:09:52.240 --> 00:09:55.000 think I think Vader has every right to make every 212 00:09:55.840 --> 00:10:00.399 you know, every single major behind the scenes squabble about him. 213 00:10:00.840 --> 00:10:04.639 And of course, I mean because if he's listen, the 214 00:10:04.960 --> 00:10:07.360 more tension he gets, possibly the more money he gets, 215 00:10:07.399 --> 00:10:10.919 and then the more food he can eat, the more 216 00:10:10.960 --> 00:10:11.399 he can eat. 217 00:10:11.480 --> 00:10:14.600 However, you know, choose to define it whatever a metaphor 218 00:10:14.679 --> 00:10:15.759 you want to put for eat. 219 00:10:16.440 --> 00:10:19.120 The massive thing about it, you know, that's just it 220 00:10:19.240 --> 00:10:26.759 right there, if anything provides potential, you know, sustenence, you know, 221 00:10:26.960 --> 00:10:30.759 then he's he's going to do it, and we're gonna 222 00:10:30.759 --> 00:10:31.720 manish it and we're going to do it. 223 00:10:31.919 --> 00:10:34.279 And the reason, as you mentioned that this last came 224 00:10:34.360 --> 00:10:36.679 up in the TLF ten year catalog with Stark ninety 225 00:10:36.720 --> 00:10:39.399 three was because, let's not forget, part of Sid's return 226 00:10:39.440 --> 00:10:43.639 to WDCW nineteen ninety three was basically being programmed in 227 00:10:43.759 --> 00:10:46.159 to win the world title and headlines Stark nineteen ninety 228 00:10:46.159 --> 00:10:49.799 three against Vader. Ultimately, that title shot went to a 229 00:10:49.919 --> 00:10:53.080 returning Rick Flair, who finishes up with the World Wrestling 230 00:10:53.159 --> 00:10:56.440 Federation about eight to nine months, maybe ten months after 231 00:10:56.759 --> 00:10:59.679 Sid leaves the WWF and comes back to WCW in 232 00:10:59.720 --> 00:11:02.159 time to close out nineteen ninety three in North Carolina, 233 00:11:02.399 --> 00:11:04.600 winning the championship from Vader in one of the most 234 00:11:04.679 --> 00:11:07.720 memorable matches and moments in WCW history. But we cannot 235 00:11:07.759 --> 00:11:09.919 forget that originally it was to be the battle of 236 00:11:09.960 --> 00:11:12.720 the Masters of the power bomb, Sid versus Vader. We 237 00:11:13.120 --> 00:11:15.519 most recently Bozie recalled that a Clash of the Champions 238 00:11:15.519 --> 00:11:17.320 where Sid and Vader were tag teaming. They did that 239 00:11:17.360 --> 00:11:19.840 Beach Blast with that horrible fucking mini movie in the 240 00:11:19.919 --> 00:11:23.840 Exploding Boat and all that nonsense, great shit, great shit 241 00:11:24.000 --> 00:11:26.919 with Sting and Davy Boys Smith and others, and that 242 00:11:27.039 --> 00:11:29.240 was all nineteen ninety three. Nineteen ninety three was the 243 00:11:29.279 --> 00:11:32.200 absolute doldrums for World Championship Wrestling and led to the 244 00:11:32.279 --> 00:11:36.440 transition from the Bill Watts experiment to Eric Bischoff gaining 245 00:11:36.519 --> 00:11:39.840 power in kind of a head scratching moment for so 246 00:11:39.960 --> 00:11:42.720 many in the business, who you thought that they would 247 00:11:42.720 --> 00:11:47.799 pick someone with more tenure and more pedigree in terms 248 00:11:47.799 --> 00:11:50.399 of running a wrestling operation. But it speaks to kind 249 00:11:50.399 --> 00:11:53.159 of how how much they were throwing up their hands 250 00:11:53.200 --> 00:11:56.039 that an announcer who talked a good game and who 251 00:11:56.120 --> 00:12:00.120 understood the language of television and sales got this hugely 252 00:12:00.200 --> 00:12:04.159 influential position atop WCW, essentially running the entire TV operation. 253 00:12:05.600 --> 00:12:07.720 But that that's where WCW was in nineteen ninety three, 254 00:12:07.759 --> 00:12:10.000 and in a lot of ways, Sid's returned to WCW. 255 00:12:10.519 --> 00:12:13.639 What was part and parcel of defining the earliest days 256 00:12:14.080 --> 00:12:17.240 of the Eric Bischoff regime, because this is basically one 257 00:12:17.240 --> 00:12:20.600 of the first disciplinary matters that Eric Bischoff had to handle. 258 00:12:23.679 --> 00:12:25.519 So this is the WCW that or we came to 259 00:12:25.559 --> 00:12:28.519 know during the boom period, just starting to form with 260 00:12:28.639 --> 00:12:33.000 Sid there at the helm, you know, commanding a high 261 00:12:33.080 --> 00:12:39.039 salary and commanding basically everyone's respect, because well, let let 262 00:12:39.159 --> 00:12:41.360 let's level set. What do you recall, even if in 263 00:12:41.440 --> 00:12:45.320 vague broad strokes about why these two started fighting too 264 00:12:45.399 --> 00:12:47.519 cold there in the clipping relaters from an RF video 265 00:12:47.559 --> 00:12:49.600 shoot interview, by the way, did intimate a bit of it? 266 00:12:49.919 --> 00:12:51.519 Why do you think they ended up stabbing each other? 267 00:12:52.360 --> 00:12:56.159 I I I don't. If you don't remember, that's that, 268 00:12:56.240 --> 00:13:02.039 that's there were some squabble and I know that you 269 00:13:02.120 --> 00:13:05.519 know it ended up with pain, end up with paying. 270 00:13:05.720 --> 00:13:08.480 SID comes in with big money, big money, big promises, 271 00:13:08.919 --> 00:13:12.039 and then kind of even renegotiates for even more money 272 00:13:12.399 --> 00:13:15.440 shortly before they go in this European tour in October. 273 00:13:16.159 --> 00:13:19.399 And that's pissing off the Rick Flair R and Anderson 274 00:13:19.440 --> 00:13:21.279 camp as you can imagine, who have no love lost 275 00:13:21.320 --> 00:13:23.279 for a Sid that they, as we've talked about earlier 276 00:13:23.320 --> 00:13:25.879 in our SID tribute, had no They were hardly impressed 277 00:13:25.879 --> 00:13:27.480 with Sid's run through the Four Horsemen. Let's put it 278 00:13:27.519 --> 00:13:31.399 that way. Even though Rick Flair ultimately ends up following 279 00:13:31.440 --> 00:13:34.200 Sid to the WWF, and thus that big brother little 280 00:13:34.240 --> 00:13:36.840 brother syndrome that Sid tried to talk about Flair in 281 00:13:36.879 --> 00:13:39.440 the context of when you would shoot interviews looking back 282 00:13:40.039 --> 00:13:42.799 continues even now Sid's back, and again he's getting paid 283 00:13:42.840 --> 00:13:46.000 more than everybody else, and so there's some resentment about that. 284 00:13:46.519 --> 00:13:49.279 And Sid is not one to shy away from really 285 00:13:49.360 --> 00:13:52.240 bragging about how the money he's making and being paid 286 00:13:53.039 --> 00:13:56.360 is completely justified, completely deserved, because he's an actual stupor 287 00:13:56.399 --> 00:13:58.200 star and all the rest of these guys are Jay 288 00:13:58.240 --> 00:14:02.759 Browns basically, and he's saying about Rick Flair in this squabble, 289 00:14:02.879 --> 00:14:06.200 this verbal argument with Arn Anderson. I heard two called 290 00:14:06.200 --> 00:14:08.120 talk about Rick Flair being there. I'm not quite sure 291 00:14:08.159 --> 00:14:10.159 he was actually there. He may have been, he certainly 292 00:14:10.240 --> 00:14:11.799 wasn't in the mix and hasn't talked about as somebody 293 00:14:11.840 --> 00:14:13.759 that was an eyewitness to or participant in the fight. 294 00:14:14.279 --> 00:14:15.919 It seems like when this is talked about, it's just 295 00:14:15.960 --> 00:14:18.320 an argument between Sit and Arn. But everyone who does 296 00:14:18.360 --> 00:14:20.799 tell the story does talk about everyone being really kind 297 00:14:20.840 --> 00:14:23.519 of loose and boozed up from these long bus rides. 298 00:14:23.559 --> 00:14:26.799 Whereas we'll talk about bus there was no one making 299 00:14:26.840 --> 00:14:28.759 sure there wasn't alcohol on the bus. Let's put it 300 00:14:28.799 --> 00:14:29.120 that way. 301 00:14:30.360 --> 00:14:32.960 I mean, I understand these guys. These guys, you know, 302 00:14:33.080 --> 00:14:36.919 they have a requirement and you know they have a necessity, 303 00:14:36.960 --> 00:14:39.519 and that is when you are when you are traveling 304 00:14:39.679 --> 00:14:42.240 that you need to be loaded. 305 00:14:42.360 --> 00:14:44.000 Yeah, especially when you go on a European tour. 306 00:14:44.320 --> 00:14:45.600 Yes, this is just so long. 307 00:14:45.720 --> 00:14:48.519 I mean, how can we possibly fly for six hours 308 00:14:48.600 --> 00:14:50.240 without getting completely shit faced? 309 00:14:50.399 --> 00:14:50.519 Right? 310 00:14:50.600 --> 00:14:53.080 I mean doesn't everybody do that? Yes? 311 00:14:53.679 --> 00:14:53.799 Right? 312 00:14:53.879 --> 00:14:58.399 Doesn't everybody you know just just completely collapse from a 313 00:14:58.399 --> 00:15:01.279 willpower perspective at the thought of a transatlantic flight. I mean, 314 00:15:01.320 --> 00:15:03.240 where's the piece? I mean, I don't understand why this 315 00:15:03.320 --> 00:15:06.919 isn't acceptable and forgivable with a crew of professional wrestlers 316 00:15:06.960 --> 00:15:08.559 witness the Clean Ride from Hell in the w w 317 00:15:08.720 --> 00:15:12.679 A as well, it's all fine. 318 00:15:12.840 --> 00:15:15.279 It's all yeah, it's and it's normal human behavior. 319 00:15:15.559 --> 00:15:18.840 I mean, is it normal, as Scorpio describes basically blood 320 00:15:18.879 --> 00:15:20.600 streaked walls in this hotel in England? 321 00:15:20.960 --> 00:15:24.240 Yes, in the hallways, yes I have. Haven't you ever 322 00:15:24.279 --> 00:15:24.879 see the shining? 323 00:15:27.399 --> 00:15:29.639 I mean, Sid is kind of Jack Nicholson esque in 324 00:15:29.720 --> 00:15:30.159 this story. 325 00:15:30.759 --> 00:15:33.559 Yes he is, Yeah, he is he's he's definitely been 326 00:15:33.600 --> 00:15:35.240 held up a little too long, And. 327 00:15:35.279 --> 00:15:36.879 He would go on to say that basically, as far 328 00:15:36.919 --> 00:15:39.519 as he knows and can discern, the psycho Sid character 329 00:15:39.559 --> 00:15:41.039 he would go on to portray in w WF in 330 00:15:41.120 --> 00:15:43.720 no small part going back to WWF because he wouldn't 331 00:15:43.720 --> 00:15:46.159 be long for World Championship Wrestling after doing this. Needless 332 00:15:46.279 --> 00:15:49.039 to say, the idea that he was psycho in some 333 00:15:49.120 --> 00:15:51.399 way stems from this. Now, we did kind of sort 334 00:15:51.440 --> 00:15:52.759 of debunk that as he comes to the ring at 335 00:15:52.759 --> 00:15:53.399 WrestleMania eight. 336 00:15:53.440 --> 00:15:55.360 We played yeah play, I mean, they call him psycho 337 00:15:55.480 --> 00:15:56.440 Sid Justice. 338 00:15:56.360 --> 00:15:58.240 So they thought he was psycho way before he nearly 339 00:15:58.320 --> 00:16:01.120 killed arn Anderson. You know, it's definitely a proof point. 340 00:16:02.440 --> 00:16:03.600 Yeah, yeah, I'll take that. 341 00:16:03.799 --> 00:16:07.919 Definitely doesn't reduce the case anyway. This is an argument 342 00:16:08.000 --> 00:16:11.240 between Sid and Arn over what's wrong with WCW. As 343 00:16:12.159 --> 00:16:14.039 Sid likes to get in fights about what's wrong with 344 00:16:14.159 --> 00:16:16.600 the company. So it's never his salary. By the way, 345 00:16:17.919 --> 00:16:20.799 it's a booking argument. It's a booking argument, yes, and 346 00:16:20.919 --> 00:16:24.120 Sid makes and we'll get down to what parties involved, 347 00:16:24.120 --> 00:16:27.320 and eyewitnesses said. He said, basically makes a flippant comment 348 00:16:27.360 --> 00:16:29.039 about how old men like Rick Flair need to get 349 00:16:29.039 --> 00:16:30.519 out of the way, and then this company might actually 350 00:16:30.519 --> 00:16:32.039 be able to pave the path forward. Of course, Sid's 351 00:16:32.080 --> 00:16:34.360 coming from New York, so so is Flair. But you 352 00:16:34.440 --> 00:16:36.879 know he's coming from New York, so he's walking around 353 00:16:36.919 --> 00:16:38.720 talking about how much better they do things over there 354 00:16:38.759 --> 00:16:40.200 and how much more professionalized they are. 355 00:16:40.080 --> 00:16:41.639 Which is hilarious because why'd you leave? 356 00:16:41.919 --> 00:16:44.679 Yeah, because they wanted a fucking drug test and that's why. 357 00:16:45.120 --> 00:16:48.200 And as much as a common narrative wants to hold 358 00:16:48.240 --> 00:16:50.559 that Sid leaves WCW in nineteen ninety three because of 359 00:16:50.600 --> 00:16:54.679 this incident, a close examination of the chronology reveals that 360 00:16:54.759 --> 00:16:58.440 they certainly weren't. The ww brass certainly wasn't beyond trying 361 00:16:58.440 --> 00:17:00.960 to negotiate to keep Sid, even for he really fully 362 00:17:01.120 --> 00:17:05.160 killed arn Anderson. Really yes, and that you know nineteen 363 00:17:05.240 --> 00:17:07.920 ninety three, right, who gets indicted in November nineteen ninety 364 00:17:07.960 --> 00:17:09.759 three on steroid distribution allegations? 365 00:17:10.000 --> 00:17:10.279 Not me? 366 00:17:10.640 --> 00:17:13.480 Yes, Uh, the major companies are from the pressure and 367 00:17:13.480 --> 00:17:17.119 they're drug testing. Not ill we start talking about testing regimes, 368 00:17:17.319 --> 00:17:19.359 is said, booking the next flight out of town. Me 369 00:17:19.519 --> 00:17:22.440 thinks so, and is he trying to reverse engineer reasons 370 00:17:22.720 --> 00:17:24.640 to leave that have nothing to do with drug testing. 371 00:17:24.759 --> 00:17:27.960 Yes, he is. I want to play softball. I don't 372 00:17:27.960 --> 00:17:33.160 want to play it now, I want to play yesterday. Ah, 373 00:17:33.920 --> 00:17:39.599 don't need to test. I'm not authorized to test. 374 00:17:40.079 --> 00:17:42.000 No, no, we want to asking you said to administer 375 00:17:42.079 --> 00:17:46.880 the test. You must misunderstand. I'm here if I have 376 00:17:47.119 --> 00:17:51.640 to test others, but I will not test myself. I 377 00:17:51.720 --> 00:17:55.160 will test your will I have already tested my limits. 378 00:17:55.240 --> 00:17:57.599 I will test your tolerance for absurdity in the boardroom. 379 00:17:59.359 --> 00:18:03.240 Isn't it kind of bizarre that for such a softball enthusiast, 380 00:18:03.400 --> 00:18:05.480 Sid did nothing but play hard ball behind the scenes 381 00:18:05.519 --> 00:18:06.279 in his wrestling career. 382 00:18:06.519 --> 00:18:08.920 Very true, So we're going to. 383 00:18:08.920 --> 00:18:12.079 Get another example, another exhibit of the character of the man. 384 00:18:13.160 --> 00:18:16.200 One would call this defining, Others would call this the exception. 385 00:18:16.599 --> 00:18:19.200 But regardless, it's one of the more infamous things to 386 00:18:19.279 --> 00:18:22.599 ever happen in a major wrestling organization in terms of 387 00:18:22.680 --> 00:18:26.119 backstage fights that reach kind of a insane levels. Just 388 00:18:26.240 --> 00:18:29.200 just really that it got this far and scissors got involved, 389 00:18:29.240 --> 00:18:32.519 It's just incredible. I mean, Arn's got a trim his beard, right, 390 00:18:32.559 --> 00:18:34.039 I mean he's got to bring scissors on the road. 391 00:18:35.079 --> 00:18:38.559 Come on, arn, can you make sure trim and his beard. 392 00:18:40.680 --> 00:18:45.279 Sitting in the bathroom, you know, like just just fucking 393 00:18:45.440 --> 00:18:46.039 trimming away. 394 00:18:46.279 --> 00:18:48.400 Just hear the snip, snip snip, you know what I mean? Like, 395 00:18:51.799 --> 00:18:57.440 oh damn, just these scraggly hairs. He's not satisfied until 396 00:18:57.759 --> 00:18:59.480 everything's relatively equal. 397 00:18:59.359 --> 00:19:01.680 Everything exactly, not just that, that's exactly it. You know, 398 00:19:01.759 --> 00:19:05.480 he cannot stand any sort of like extra length hair. 399 00:19:07.519 --> 00:19:11.480 On his face like a pro wrestler with fucking fluorescent 400 00:19:11.559 --> 00:19:15.559 lighting in a cheap England hotel room with the lighting 401 00:19:15.640 --> 00:19:17.559 on the mirror in the bathroom, no shirt on and 402 00:19:17.640 --> 00:19:20.279 a white towel or other ways trimming their beard at 403 00:19:20.359 --> 00:19:26.960 like one point thirty in the morning. Is that is 404 00:19:27.000 --> 00:19:28.880 that him trimming? Or is that Sid stabbing? 405 00:19:29.039 --> 00:19:30.400 No, that's that's that's trimming. 406 00:19:30.599 --> 00:19:31.920 So let me ask you when it comes to Sid 407 00:19:32.000 --> 00:19:42.720 stabbing arm, what would that be downed Blike, I mean, 408 00:19:42.839 --> 00:19:44.720 you're so good at making stab noises that I have 409 00:19:44.799 --> 00:19:48.519 the feeling that it just traumatizes you. And that's your 410 00:19:48.519 --> 00:19:49.279 way of dealing with it. 411 00:19:49.359 --> 00:19:53.279 The thought of stating yes, the idea of a listen, 412 00:19:53.759 --> 00:19:59.240 there there are yes in terms of violent ways to 413 00:19:59.319 --> 00:20:04.519 go it's like the least the like I can't can 414 00:20:04.559 --> 00:20:09.279 handle just fucking shoot me, all right, Like I seriously, 415 00:20:09.839 --> 00:20:12.400 because the idea of being stabbed, unless you get stabbed 416 00:20:12.400 --> 00:20:15.400 in the right spot in the right time, it's not instant, 417 00:20:16.279 --> 00:20:18.920 it's not instant, and I can't handle that. 418 00:20:21.880 --> 00:20:24.519 I mean, looking to see his eyes, is that a 419 00:20:24.599 --> 00:20:25.240 man capable? 420 00:20:26.119 --> 00:20:31.079 Yes? Us, yes, yes, he is, he is. Uh, he is, 421 00:20:31.160 --> 00:20:33.480 he is capable like you never And this. 422 00:20:33.519 --> 00:20:36.599 Is a dark story, a dark, dark, dark story, like 423 00:20:36.759 --> 00:20:39.759 you know, you know the story of already Lang somewhat, 424 00:20:40.519 --> 00:20:43.119 you know, like in twenty ten he. 425 00:20:44.759 --> 00:20:49.920 He he how many? It's like I think he was 426 00:20:50.000 --> 00:20:53.319 found in his apartment with like ten self inflicted stab wounds. 427 00:20:53.359 --> 00:20:55.960 Oh my goodness, Like like that's the thing, like, as 428 00:20:56.839 --> 00:20:59.480 you know, like I can't, I can't handle that. If ten, 429 00:21:00.119 --> 00:21:03.359 if ten, If you stab yourself ten times and you're 430 00:21:03.400 --> 00:21:08.640 not dead, it's not a good way. It's not good 431 00:21:08.960 --> 00:21:09.559 for the victim. 432 00:21:09.559 --> 00:21:12.440 I want you to consider the sixth one, you know 433 00:21:12.480 --> 00:21:16.640 what I mean? Oh exactly, Like you know this is 434 00:21:16.720 --> 00:21:21.640 this the end? No, we're just halfway there. So welcome 435 00:21:21.759 --> 00:21:24.880 to the latest chapter in the TLF Tribute to sid 436 00:21:25.279 --> 00:21:29.319 As he returns to World Championship Wrestling after a truncated 437 00:21:29.519 --> 00:21:33.079 WWF run that still forms core memories for us Hasbro kids, 438 00:21:33.519 --> 00:21:35.440 and I think plays no small role in why there 439 00:21:35.559 --> 00:21:38.680 was such a far and wide rounds of tribute to 440 00:21:38.799 --> 00:21:42.599 Sid's career upon his passing his untimely passing due to 441 00:21:42.640 --> 00:21:45.519 cancer according to his family this year or just a 442 00:21:45.599 --> 00:21:49.640 few weeks ago. And so we're looking at this nineteen 443 00:21:49.720 --> 00:21:52.039 ninety three really through the lens of the stabbing incident, 444 00:21:52.079 --> 00:21:54.920 which characterized it largely, but there's a bit more to say. 445 00:21:55.079 --> 00:21:58.480 I think about the impact that Sid had upon returning 446 00:21:58.519 --> 00:22:02.200 to WCW, because he's taken up on his offers and 447 00:22:02.400 --> 00:22:04.960 entreaties over the years to actually play a role in 448 00:22:05.079 --> 00:22:07.960 booking and coming up with characters for wrestlers and trying 449 00:22:07.960 --> 00:22:09.880 to be somebody that's kind of front office a little bit. 450 00:22:10.799 --> 00:22:12.759 What's unfortunate for Sid is he kind of reaches this 451 00:22:12.839 --> 00:22:16.240 agreement with Cowboy Bill Watts, who was running WCW at 452 00:22:16.240 --> 00:22:18.759 the time Sid came back on the market after leaving 453 00:22:18.920 --> 00:22:23.000 WWF and early ninety two is referenced similar to Rick Flair, 454 00:22:23.000 --> 00:22:25.079 who was negotiating with Bill Watts to make the return, 455 00:22:25.319 --> 00:22:27.960 but by the time the returns happen. Bill Watts is 456 00:22:28.000 --> 00:22:31.880 gone for reasons discussed at Nauseam, including as you mentioned, 457 00:22:31.920 --> 00:22:35.200 on the Starkaed Memorial tour. And so now Sid's here, 458 00:22:35.240 --> 00:22:37.240 but fortunately he still has an ally in Oli Anderson, 459 00:22:37.240 --> 00:22:38.960 who we've established, dating all the way back to the 460 00:22:39.000 --> 00:22:41.160 Skyscraper days, is a huge mark for Sid. I mean, 461 00:22:41.160 --> 00:22:44.559 I don't think that's overstating it. Well, let's just put 462 00:22:44.559 --> 00:22:46.079 it this way. When Oley was asked on some of 463 00:22:46.079 --> 00:22:48.079 his shoot interviews about the city, he said he liked 464 00:22:48.079 --> 00:22:48.559 the guy. 465 00:22:50.039 --> 00:22:52.279 Which you know, if you know Ollie Anderson, you know 466 00:22:52.359 --> 00:22:54.359 that's like, that's huge. 467 00:22:54.519 --> 00:22:56.480 Yeah. Sid's on like a short list with Stan Hanson 468 00:22:56.519 --> 00:22:59.839 and like three other guys who aren't complete shitheads according 469 00:22:59.880 --> 00:23:02.079 to Anderson, and he's got the book. While Eric Bischoff 470 00:23:02.119 --> 00:23:06.519 is in charge of production as executive vice president or VP. 471 00:23:06.640 --> 00:23:10.359 However they whatever terminology they used, Bischoff really only had 472 00:23:10.480 --> 00:23:13.039 jurisdiction or dominion, if you will, over the look and 473 00:23:13.119 --> 00:23:15.279 feel the television product, how they would shoot it, where 474 00:23:15.279 --> 00:23:17.759 they would shoot at, how they would budget the production 475 00:23:17.920 --> 00:23:21.599 staff and the trucks and the cameras and the graphics 476 00:23:21.680 --> 00:23:24.440 and all that stuff. A key role to be sure, 477 00:23:24.839 --> 00:23:28.200 but he's not back there, you know, handing wrestlers finishes 478 00:23:28.279 --> 00:23:32.119 and deciding who wins and loses. He's still deputizing those 479 00:23:32.559 --> 00:23:34.759 responsibilities in the earliest days here to the likes of 480 00:23:34.799 --> 00:23:38.000 Oly Anderson and Dusty Rhoads. We've also established has now 481 00:23:38.039 --> 00:23:40.680 left the WWF and is back in a front office 482 00:23:40.720 --> 00:23:43.880 capacity at WCW. Not with as much sway as he 483 00:23:43.960 --> 00:23:47.240 would have had it did have under Jim heard upon 484 00:23:47.319 --> 00:23:50.000 his return, but you know, still very much in the 485 00:23:50.079 --> 00:23:54.079 mix and putting his his fingerprints on things was a 486 00:23:54.240 --> 00:23:57.839 dusty road. So Sid comes back into this, this political constitution, 487 00:23:58.519 --> 00:24:01.400 and it's time to see what he can do over here. 488 00:24:01.839 --> 00:24:06.160 Do you remember being such a such a locked in 489 00:24:06.279 --> 00:24:08.079 fan of Sid Justice in ninety one and ninety two, 490 00:24:08.160 --> 00:24:11.319 or at least being so aware of his essence and 491 00:24:11.400 --> 00:24:13.559 aura that he went back to w CW, or just 492 00:24:13.759 --> 00:24:15.799 feeling I'm here from him again until I. 493 00:24:16.039 --> 00:24:18.119 No, No, I did know that he did. 494 00:24:18.440 --> 00:24:24.599 I remember, I remember when did he When did he 495 00:24:24.680 --> 00:24:30.200 officially go go w cwuh slambering ninety three is when 496 00:24:30.200 --> 00:24:33.039 he came back, Okay, which which I think we've covered 497 00:24:33.039 --> 00:24:33.559 in the archives. 498 00:24:33.599 --> 00:24:36.559 I think, yeah, we might have. I. Oh, no, I 499 00:24:36.599 --> 00:24:38.519 don't think so that's the first thing. Well, maybe we did. 500 00:24:38.720 --> 00:24:42.160 I don't know. After the shock Master incident, Yeah, I 501 00:24:42.400 --> 00:24:47.079 I do remember. So I remember being in my aunt's 502 00:24:47.119 --> 00:24:52.079 house and I remember flipping through the channels and it 503 00:24:52.119 --> 00:24:55.000 must have been a Saturday night, honestly, and I was 504 00:24:55.000 --> 00:24:58.119 slipping flipping through the channels and I stumbled the up, 505 00:24:58.680 --> 00:25:02.519 you know, across w CW, and there was WW wrestling on, 506 00:25:02.640 --> 00:25:06.440 and so I immediately stopped. And I can vividly remember 507 00:25:07.079 --> 00:25:13.559 seeing at one point Sid wrestling a job guy and 508 00:25:16.359 --> 00:25:22.039 wearing blue tights. And I was so disappointed. I was 509 00:25:22.119 --> 00:25:25.279 so disappointed. Why disappointed because I kept thinking he was 510 00:25:25.319 --> 00:25:28.440 going to come back. You know, I didn't know he 511 00:25:28.559 --> 00:25:30.480 was gone gone. I thought he just was gone. For 512 00:25:30.519 --> 00:25:32.000 a little while. I thought, for sure he's going to 513 00:25:32.000 --> 00:25:37.200 come back w W, and I was just incredibly disappointed. 514 00:25:39.759 --> 00:25:43.960 I remember saw the mini movie with Davy Boy and 515 00:25:44.240 --> 00:25:46.839 Staying versus Sid Invader on that episode of Saturday Night 516 00:25:47.200 --> 00:25:49.440 that I know I did not see with Cheatham, the 517 00:25:50.240 --> 00:25:52.279 little person involved in Colonel Parker. 518 00:25:52.440 --> 00:25:55.440 No, the the whatever. I watched that wrestling show. All 519 00:25:55.519 --> 00:25:58.920 I remember is is sit in the ring Wrestling was on. 520 00:25:58.960 --> 00:26:00.880 An episode of Saturday Night and this in so many 521 00:26:00.960 --> 00:26:05.319 ways categorizes like the absurdity of what was w CW 522 00:26:05.480 --> 00:26:08.039 at the time. As a Sid not only returns but 523 00:26:08.160 --> 00:26:10.200 links up as we've talked about before with Vader and 524 00:26:10.240 --> 00:26:12.720 the Master of the power Bomb tag team and faces 525 00:26:12.759 --> 00:26:15.799 off with the dynamic duo of Sting and Davy. Boy 526 00:26:16.000 --> 00:26:19.559 and WCW Saturday Night covered the mini movie brought to 527 00:26:19.680 --> 00:26:23.240 us by VP of Marketing Sharon Sadela or whatever her 528 00:26:23.359 --> 00:26:34.079 name was. This Sting and Davy playing volleyball on the 529 00:26:34.079 --> 00:26:36.960 beach somewhere. This is ahead of Beach Blast, of course. 530 00:26:37.000 --> 00:26:39.400 And yes we did cover Slambourne ninety three, episode two 531 00:26:39.480 --> 00:26:40.279 sixty seven. 532 00:26:40.079 --> 00:26:40.240 In the. 533 00:26:45.599 --> 00:26:49.440 Colonel if they don't accept Charley raise Colonel Parkers in 534 00:26:49.680 --> 00:26:54.000 for a big surprise. Yes, you're a man ready, Yeah, Yeah, 535 00:26:54.240 --> 00:27:01.440 he's ready. Yeah, sids right, do you trust cheat them 536 00:27:01.720 --> 00:27:03.079 to get the job done? 537 00:27:04.960 --> 00:27:05.920 Let me do it. 538 00:27:09.319 --> 00:27:15.160 I'll take care of it. They don't see the reason 539 00:27:15.279 --> 00:27:17.119 I show you and asked for cheat them. 540 00:27:17.359 --> 00:27:19.599 I trust him Black first w Studies controller, come to 541 00:27:19.640 --> 00:27:21.000 find out, was Dick Cheatham. 542 00:27:21.200 --> 00:27:24.119 To be prepared and to Sting and Day. But Boy, 543 00:27:24.240 --> 00:27:28.839 don't see the light. They'll be in for a beach 544 00:27:28.960 --> 00:27:31.200 blast like they've never seen before. 545 00:27:32.400 --> 00:27:33.799 Beach blast coming out your pants. 546 00:27:39.039 --> 00:27:41.599 I mean they're they're both individually laughing into the camera. 547 00:27:42.039 --> 00:27:44.359 Of course, they're barely addressing each other, sitting on the 548 00:27:44.400 --> 00:27:47.319 beach in his blue trunks. They sit justice trunks. And 549 00:27:47.440 --> 00:27:49.119 here's a shark fin in the water. 550 00:27:58.319 --> 00:27:59.799 Awful, the jaws rip off. 551 00:27:59.839 --> 00:28:23.599 You cheat him with the shark fin on comes walking 552 00:28:23.680 --> 00:28:28.559 out of the water under the shore. He's got a 553 00:28:28.640 --> 00:28:31.759 cooler in his hand, and it contains a bomb. Boss, 554 00:28:31.799 --> 00:28:36.400 it contains a bomb, of course, also containing a bomb 555 00:28:36.519 --> 00:28:42.119 beach Blast nineteen ninety three. And this we have not 556 00:28:42.200 --> 00:28:45.240 covered in the archives, so we are kind of getting 557 00:28:45.240 --> 00:28:47.599 ahead of ourselves. Please forgive us whenever the time comes 558 00:28:47.640 --> 00:28:51.880 to cover beach blast when we replay this, and I'll 559 00:28:51.920 --> 00:28:53.240 give you a little more homework. 560 00:28:52.920 --> 00:28:54.599 On that one, Boss, so you have to actually watch it. 561 00:28:57.519 --> 00:28:58.039 It does. 562 00:28:59.359 --> 00:29:06.079 Speech volley all games being interrupted. Oh my god, this 563 00:29:06.200 --> 00:29:10.799 amphibious vehicle in their full wrestling gear. It's so Sid 564 00:29:10.920 --> 00:29:13.079 has his blue trunks, blue knee pads, but he's got 565 00:29:13.119 --> 00:29:13.519 sandals on. 566 00:29:13.599 --> 00:29:15.039 Everybody. Just stay here for a second. 567 00:29:15.119 --> 00:29:16.599 This looks like it could be pretty interesting. 568 00:29:17.319 --> 00:29:18.640 Let's go see what they want. 569 00:29:24.440 --> 00:29:27.279 Walking down the beach, hardy of course, and slacks and 570 00:29:27.319 --> 00:29:30.160 a shirt on the beach, Colonel Parker and his full regalia. 571 00:29:30.880 --> 00:29:33.200 By the skulls and the bones. 572 00:29:39.440 --> 00:29:41.440 Got that the skulls and bones that lie beside our 573 00:29:41.480 --> 00:29:48.200 path are simple to our victories. Boy, They just cut 574 00:29:48.279 --> 00:29:51.400 to Sid and Davy pardon me, stinging Davy silently marching 575 00:29:51.480 --> 00:29:55.119 towards they are and Sid clearly shot on different days. 576 00:30:01.440 --> 00:30:04.079 Brother, I take that back. They come to center sting, 577 00:30:06.480 --> 00:30:13.519 baby boy. I can't believe you wouldn't nixt factor proposalf God, 578 00:30:14.160 --> 00:30:17.119 he sounds so constipated, day boy. 579 00:30:17.440 --> 00:30:19.759 Except someone really thinks they have like a. 580 00:30:19.799 --> 00:30:23.680 Future of movie making doing this quick. 581 00:30:23.839 --> 00:30:25.359 Maybe it's a shot on separate days because they do 582 00:30:25.440 --> 00:30:26.400 that split screen effect. 583 00:30:26.680 --> 00:30:28.000 I'm thinking maybe I don't know. 584 00:30:28.799 --> 00:30:30.000 They're only in the same frame. 585 00:30:30.119 --> 00:30:33.200 We got the tickets when they're standing on his two 586 00:30:33.839 --> 00:30:35.319 diametrically post sides of the screen. 587 00:30:35.359 --> 00:30:35.920 Get her hands. 588 00:30:35.960 --> 00:30:36.799 We can fly out of here. 589 00:30:37.519 --> 00:30:41.599 Go off from them, well, baby, one more time. Four 590 00:30:41.720 --> 00:30:44.559 hundred and fifty pounds invaders six feet seven and three 591 00:30:44.640 --> 00:30:47.559 hundred pounds, sad vicious masters of the power bomb. 592 00:30:47.640 --> 00:30:49.960 I mean maybe we should just take these tickets and 593 00:30:50.160 --> 00:30:51.519 just retire. 594 00:30:51.640 --> 00:30:56.599 Said the WCW fan. All these people horrified watching on 595 00:30:56.640 --> 00:30:58.680 the beach, that maybe even meant Diana Smith holding a 596 00:30:58.759 --> 00:31:02.720 baby and glasses find a way to get on television. 597 00:31:03.440 --> 00:31:08.440 So New York blast. Oh my god. If the kids 598 00:31:08.559 --> 00:31:18.599 cheers that they're going to face a blast, you got fine. 599 00:31:20.960 --> 00:31:22.319 You're not gone. 600 00:31:22.519 --> 00:31:26.559 God, may guy got big boy. 601 00:31:26.880 --> 00:31:28.680 Just made up mistake here. 602 00:31:29.160 --> 00:31:32.839 I mean they are never they're talking off off camera 603 00:31:33.000 --> 00:31:33.920 to people who aren't there. 604 00:31:41.640 --> 00:31:44.000 What are you supposed to mean by that? Yeah, that's 605 00:31:44.000 --> 00:31:44.519 a good question. 606 00:31:44.759 --> 00:31:47.759 Just desperate people, and desperate people do desperate things. 607 00:31:47.839 --> 00:31:50.720 But I'll tell you what, like make fucking bullshit movies 608 00:31:50.759 --> 00:31:51.599 from beach blasts. 609 00:31:51.640 --> 00:31:52.960 Hey, guys, let's go buck you put some. 610 00:31:54.559 --> 00:31:58.240 This is what Sid left an event w W spot 611 00:31:58.319 --> 00:32:01.119 for a funny. 612 00:32:02.319 --> 00:32:05.720 Round A funny guy hanging around the boat. 613 00:32:06.400 --> 00:32:06.880 Say what. 614 00:32:08.640 --> 00:32:10.599 Hey, sting, sting, where's he going? 615 00:32:10.799 --> 00:32:15.000 He's gonna see the guy hanging around the boat going. 616 00:32:14.920 --> 00:32:27.519 Click click click, excuse me? Did do do do do 617 00:32:27.599 --> 00:32:28.400 do do do do do do do. 618 00:32:28.480 --> 00:32:28.680 Do do. 619 00:32:30.359 --> 00:32:30.400 O? 620 00:32:30.680 --> 00:32:33.039 Davy Chap is sting into the waters. The boat explodes, 621 00:32:36.920 --> 00:32:43.519 stunned up this fucking uh, Western music there, fucking morons, 622 00:32:45.440 --> 00:32:52.880 everyone just docking at this exploded boat put stinging Davy 623 00:32:52.880 --> 00:32:54.599 emerge from the water in the kids cheer because they 624 00:32:54.640 --> 00:32:55.519 thought they were dead. 625 00:33:00.079 --> 00:33:00.359 M h. 626 00:33:05.119 --> 00:33:09.440 Be continued, Oh I understand why he stabbed arn Anderson. 627 00:33:09.559 --> 00:33:12.480 Oh my god, So I would stabbed everybody involved in 628 00:33:12.480 --> 00:33:13.200 that fucking shoot. 629 00:33:15.559 --> 00:33:17.880 He's a lapsed fan wrestling podcast. 630 00:33:35.240 --> 00:33:39.160 He's the Lapsed Fan Wrestling podcast with Jack and Carno 631 00:33:39.640 --> 00:33:40.559 m JP Soro. 632 00:33:41.200 --> 00:33:43.960 Sid is back and we are back here paying tribute 633 00:33:44.039 --> 00:33:47.720 to the remarkable and unique career of Sid ud here 634 00:33:47.799 --> 00:33:50.960 on the podcast, and thanks so much for sticking with 635 00:33:51.119 --> 00:33:54.079 us through this this journey we're taking. It's it's it's 636 00:33:54.119 --> 00:33:55.839 hard to call it a journey. But at the same time, 637 00:33:56.240 --> 00:33:58.799 though more closely you examined Sid's career, the more just 638 00:33:58.880 --> 00:34:01.359 some unbelievable story where he's just unfold before you. 639 00:34:01.920 --> 00:34:05.279 Yeah, I definitely imagine unbelievable regarding Sid. 640 00:34:05.799 --> 00:34:09.119 Definitely one of them. So we're rocking and rolling here. 641 00:34:09.280 --> 00:34:13.119 The seasons have changed, you know. I guess I feel 642 00:34:13.239 --> 00:34:15.039 like as I see a beach scene there with Sid 643 00:34:15.119 --> 00:34:17.639 Invader and staying in Davy, that that's very much behind us, 644 00:34:17.719 --> 00:34:18.320 is it not, Boss? 645 00:34:18.599 --> 00:34:22.320 Thank thank Christ. Is it not I don't know, Halloween time? 646 00:34:22.760 --> 00:34:22.960 Yes? 647 00:34:23.559 --> 00:34:23.880 Is it not? 648 00:34:24.119 --> 00:34:27.199 I don't know, scary movie season time under the cinemat 649 00:34:27.280 --> 00:34:28.360 for these pitches. 650 00:34:28.440 --> 00:34:33.679 Yes it is. I'm fucking no. The what you what 651 00:34:33.760 --> 00:34:36.840 would have just been seen? Is uh is not a 652 00:34:36.960 --> 00:34:41.440 living dead? And very happy about that. I hope everyone 653 00:34:41.559 --> 00:34:43.920 enjoyed that one. What a wonderful movie. 654 00:34:44.199 --> 00:34:49.880 And look at the career of Pittsburgh wrestling voice Bill Cardill, 655 00:34:49.960 --> 00:34:53.119 who is also an institution on television in that city, 656 00:34:53.320 --> 00:34:56.880 you know, Brunos, San Martino City for generations. Yep, yep, 657 00:34:57.880 --> 00:35:00.679 just a just a real treat. And and you know, 658 00:35:01.639 --> 00:35:03.639 we've got a few more weeks left. I'm not gonna 659 00:35:03.639 --> 00:35:07.000 spoil what's coming up next. No, it's a big surprise. 660 00:35:07.400 --> 00:35:09.599 But don't have dinner before we go trick or treating kids. Okay, 661 00:35:09.679 --> 00:35:12.559 that's really what I would suggest, because it's all it's 662 00:35:12.599 --> 00:35:16.199 all sugar and empty calories. Yeah, exactly, a lot of 663 00:35:16.199 --> 00:35:18.920 those rushes to come. So yeah, it's it's going off 664 00:35:19.000 --> 00:35:21.079 on patreon dot com slash the lapsed fan. As we 665 00:35:21.159 --> 00:35:25.079 turn into the seasons where we thrive the most, the cooler, 666 00:35:25.199 --> 00:35:29.440 crisper seasons, the way it should be and we're excited 667 00:35:29.440 --> 00:35:32.960 about what's ahead. We just of course laced the Solar 668 00:35:33.000 --> 00:35:36.000 system with our premium live event, live call of Bad Blood. 669 00:35:36.199 --> 00:35:38.159 Has ww brought that pay per view back this year 670 00:35:38.239 --> 00:35:40.800 a Seampunk and Drew MacIntyre, Hell and a Cell, the 671 00:35:40.880 --> 00:35:43.599 return of the Rock again after Cody and Roman Face 672 00:35:43.880 --> 00:35:48.360 Solo and Jacob FAUGHTU. So those who who stayed locked 673 00:35:48.400 --> 00:35:50.440 and loaded on Patreon were able to enjoy our live 674 00:35:50.559 --> 00:35:53.360 call of that and a lot more through the fall. 675 00:35:53.440 --> 00:35:55.760 Of course, there will be Crown Jewel where they're gonna 676 00:35:56.079 --> 00:35:58.639 crown a new Crown Jewel Champion. We kind of skipped 677 00:35:58.679 --> 00:36:00.400 over this when we did our live call. The Triple 678 00:36:00.480 --> 00:36:03.119 H announced Boss that the Crown Jewel Belt is going 679 00:36:03.199 --> 00:36:05.239 to go to the winner of a match between the 680 00:36:05.360 --> 00:36:08.400 World Champ and the ww Champ. But those two belts 681 00:36:08.400 --> 00:36:09.480 won't be on the line. 682 00:36:10.800 --> 00:36:11.320 For one night. 683 00:36:11.400 --> 00:36:13.519 They'll not defend their titles. They'll they'll wrestle for the 684 00:36:13.559 --> 00:36:21.360 Crown Jewel title. So like, so one guy's going to 685 00:36:21.400 --> 00:36:24.920 beat the other champion, and then which being a champion, 686 00:36:25.159 --> 00:36:26.800 which makes him the better champion? 687 00:36:26.960 --> 00:36:30.440 Like, honestly, you're there basically if they put another belt 688 00:36:30.559 --> 00:36:34.679 up for grabs with the two world champions going at it, 689 00:36:35.440 --> 00:36:37.880 then this is it's a unification match. 690 00:36:38.000 --> 00:36:40.400 Yeah, it was always something that fucked them royally when 691 00:36:40.400 --> 00:36:42.760 they insisted on doing that at Survivor Series, it being 692 00:36:43.159 --> 00:36:45.400 you know, Champ first, Champ brand versus brand. They got 693 00:36:45.440 --> 00:36:47.440 away from that and then they I don't know, maybe 694 00:36:47.480 --> 00:36:50.960 the Crown Prince was not pleased and wanted his own 695 00:36:50.960 --> 00:36:51.880 title belt or something. 696 00:36:51.960 --> 00:36:52.719 So I'm sure he does. 697 00:36:52.760 --> 00:36:56.760 I'm sure he wants a Saudi Championship. That'll be the 698 00:36:57.320 --> 00:37:01.840 the Saudi World Championship. So that'll be part of a 699 00:37:01.880 --> 00:37:04.000 one to two punch from a live call perspective coming 700 00:37:04.039 --> 00:37:06.480 up in the month of November over at Patreon, as 701 00:37:06.519 --> 00:37:07.760 we do what we have to do to get that 702 00:37:07.840 --> 00:37:09.760 under a belt, and as we learned, even the Saturday 703 00:37:09.840 --> 00:37:11.719 Night's main event they're going to bring back in December 704 00:37:11.840 --> 00:37:14.159 is a premium live event, So for the first time 705 00:37:14.199 --> 00:37:15.599 in a couple of years, we'll come at you in 706 00:37:15.639 --> 00:37:18.719 December with a live call, rocking and rolling on so 707 00:37:18.800 --> 00:37:20.599 many fronts. Of course, add free versions of the show 708 00:37:20.639 --> 00:37:24.679 over there, and Russell Mamia is just continuing to turn 709 00:37:24.760 --> 00:37:25.480 over new leaves. 710 00:37:28.119 --> 00:37:32.039 I mean we should we're getting into the Uh, I 711 00:37:32.159 --> 00:37:34.679 believe some of the stuff that we you and I 712 00:37:34.960 --> 00:37:35.880 watched together. 713 00:37:35.719 --> 00:37:36.239 With my mom. 714 00:37:36.400 --> 00:37:38.679 Yeah, it's about time I make a cameo during these 715 00:37:38.719 --> 00:37:39.599 things exactly. 716 00:37:40.159 --> 00:37:42.280 You know, you definitely did on the one hundredth show 717 00:37:42.800 --> 00:37:46.199 with Kobashi and Joe. But you know we're getting onto 718 00:37:46.239 --> 00:37:50.239 that to some of that that fun shit. You get 719 00:37:50.280 --> 00:37:53.960 to join in and see what what my mom's all about. 720 00:37:54.880 --> 00:37:56.880 So that's available to members of the Moat tier, the 721 00:37:56.960 --> 00:37:59.239 Premium tier, the highest price tier, the one that we 722 00:37:59.360 --> 00:38:01.719 do understand is a little rich for some blood. But 723 00:38:02.039 --> 00:38:04.280 my god, does it not help us discern who out 724 00:38:04.320 --> 00:38:07.000 there in the Solar system deserves the most direct attention 725 00:38:07.079 --> 00:38:07.559 and service? 726 00:38:07.639 --> 00:38:10.920 Boss? Oh for sure. I mean by this point, oh, 727 00:38:11.400 --> 00:38:13.800 you know what we're actually this reminds me we are 728 00:38:13.880 --> 00:38:17.960 actually in uh uh you know scary you know, scary 729 00:38:18.280 --> 00:38:23.159 match season with with my mom. I do we do 730 00:38:23.360 --> 00:38:27.920 I do a couple uh you know, halloween esque or 731 00:38:28.559 --> 00:38:31.920 you know, kind of horror themed matches for the month 732 00:38:31.960 --> 00:38:34.199 of October. Yes, you do. People would have just seen 733 00:38:34.320 --> 00:38:38.559 Undertaker versus Yokozuna in a casket match spooky, certainly a 734 00:38:38.599 --> 00:38:39.400 spooky match, and. 735 00:38:39.480 --> 00:38:41.000 Not wait to hear what Mama Sorrow thinks of a 736 00:38:41.039 --> 00:38:42.800 match where you could put someone in a fucking casket 737 00:38:42.840 --> 00:38:43.159 and closed. 738 00:38:43.199 --> 00:38:44.239 Oh yeah, oh yeah. 739 00:38:44.960 --> 00:38:47.239 It's funny when they and the Netflix stock when Vince 740 00:38:47.239 --> 00:38:48.639 talks about how we don't do murder and then they 741 00:38:48.679 --> 00:38:51.239 intersplice it with clips of people getting stuffed in caskets. 742 00:38:51.360 --> 00:38:54.880 No killing, no death. How about how about buried alive? Yeah? 743 00:38:54.880 --> 00:38:55.280 How about that? 744 00:38:55.480 --> 00:38:58.159 How about Punk saying he's gonna kill and he's ready 745 00:38:58.199 --> 00:39:01.199 to die for it's give me a break. So, speaking 746 00:39:01.239 --> 00:39:03.360 of Helen a Cell, we did hear from the homie. Gabe, 747 00:39:03.519 --> 00:39:05.960 who we've been telling you about in recent weeks, is 748 00:39:06.400 --> 00:39:08.960 facing a very serious surgery and probably by the time 749 00:39:09.000 --> 00:39:12.159 you're hearing this, Gabe will be heading in for the procedure. 750 00:39:12.239 --> 00:39:15.519 And we appreciate everybody in the Solar System who did 751 00:39:15.559 --> 00:39:17.880 what they could to contribute to trying to make it 752 00:39:17.880 --> 00:39:20.599 a little easier from a recovery perspective on his family 753 00:39:20.840 --> 00:39:23.719 as they have to rejigger basically everything without him at 754 00:39:23.719 --> 00:39:26.199 the helm so to speak, as he recovers. So we're 755 00:39:26.199 --> 00:39:28.800 sending best wishes to Gabe. But he tucked in one 756 00:39:28.920 --> 00:39:32.159 last live event Boss before the procedure. He went to 757 00:39:32.400 --> 00:39:34.800 bad Blood because he happened only working a show in 758 00:39:34.880 --> 00:39:35.800 Atlanta that weekend. 759 00:39:35.960 --> 00:39:39.400 Ah, dude, why put yourself through that when you got 760 00:39:39.440 --> 00:39:40.639 such a big thing coming up? 761 00:39:40.719 --> 00:39:43.519 Well, you know he figured, you know, the heart's already damaged, 762 00:39:43.559 --> 00:39:45.840 so what the fuck right? Yeah, going to get it fixed. 763 00:39:45.920 --> 00:39:49.480 Let's take one more round of fucking pain. Awful, But 764 00:39:49.599 --> 00:39:53.199 he sent this missive from the State Farm Arena. All 765 00:39:53.280 --> 00:39:56.000 the old timers left immediately after their little screen hit. 766 00:39:56.559 --> 00:39:58.559 Remember that they were showing like DDP and XPOC in 767 00:39:58.599 --> 00:39:58.920 the crowd. 768 00:39:59.039 --> 00:40:01.679 Yep, yep, yep. That's good to know. They get the. 769 00:40:01.719 --> 00:40:03.840 Fuck out of there. They weren't watching these fake matches. 770 00:40:04.039 --> 00:40:05.880 No, they don't listen. They just want to get there. 771 00:40:05.920 --> 00:40:11.199 They're fulfilling their contractual obligation and they're getting the fuck 772 00:40:11.239 --> 00:40:13.480 out of Dodge. You know, give my fucking check them out. 773 00:40:13.920 --> 00:40:15.679 Gabe also reports the crowd love the hell in a 774 00:40:15.719 --> 00:40:17.440 sale match and I'm a sucker for false finishes, so 775 00:40:17.480 --> 00:40:20.760 they got me engaged. Kids love Damien Priest. That's interesting 776 00:40:20.840 --> 00:40:23.599 to know. Let's hope Damian Priest doesn't love kids, right. 777 00:40:24.440 --> 00:40:25.480 I don't care about either of. 778 00:40:25.519 --> 00:40:27.760 These name with that last name, Priest. It's kind of 779 00:40:27.760 --> 00:40:28.199 hard not to. 780 00:40:30.239 --> 00:40:32.239 Gay writes, I don't care about either of these dipshits, 781 00:40:32.280 --> 00:40:37.800 Baylor or Discipline. Ramirez. Significant qualitative difference, he reports in 782 00:40:37.880 --> 00:40:40.840 presentation live compared to an AW show, but maybe that's 783 00:40:40.880 --> 00:40:43.960 to be expected. I suppose he means, you can't compare 784 00:40:44.159 --> 00:40:46.039 the production level of a live w W show with 785 00:40:46.079 --> 00:40:47.079 a live AW show. 786 00:40:47.519 --> 00:40:49.360 And Kay Gabe is a AW guy. 787 00:40:49.400 --> 00:40:51.800 You know, we've had him on Opper shows talking about 788 00:40:52.039 --> 00:40:54.559 actually helping put one of their shows together in Chicago Ones, 789 00:40:55.400 --> 00:40:57.199 he writes, Nya Jacks as an oath I think we 790 00:40:57.280 --> 00:40:58.400 can to get behind that. 791 00:40:58.920 --> 00:41:01.159 Yeah, yeah, she definitely has o Fish qualities. 792 00:41:01.480 --> 00:41:03.800 Dominic will be a star, he reports. Crowd hates him, 793 00:41:03.800 --> 00:41:04.760 but you know what comes from that. 794 00:41:05.320 --> 00:41:05.480 Yep. 795 00:41:06.159 --> 00:41:07.920 Goldberg was over, but that sucked, and so does he. 796 00:41:08.039 --> 00:41:10.599 Goldberg had a confrontation with Gunter during the Crown Jewel 797 00:41:10.639 --> 00:41:13.880 title presentation. So Goldberg's in for another probably one million 798 00:41:13.880 --> 00:41:17.880 dollar a night for what those I don't know what 799 00:41:17.920 --> 00:41:20.000 they're gonna do. I mean, we're we gonna do fucking 800 00:41:20.039 --> 00:41:23.920 Gunter versus the versus Goldberg at Survivor series. Maybe by 801 00:41:23.960 --> 00:41:26.519 the time you hear this it'll be clear. But why 802 00:41:26.519 --> 00:41:28.599 as we're recording this, it hasn't happened yet. Gunter is 803 00:41:28.639 --> 00:41:31.000 to defend the world title against Sammy z Ain, who 804 00:41:31.039 --> 00:41:32.800 of course beat Gunter and ended his winning streak at 805 00:41:32.800 --> 00:41:36.079 WrestleMania for the IC strap on Raw. So perhaps Sammy 806 00:41:36.159 --> 00:41:37.800 Zein wins the belt and then they do Gunter and 807 00:41:38.079 --> 00:41:40.199 Goldberg one on one in Crown Jewel. I don't think 808 00:41:40.199 --> 00:41:41.920 there's any way how can they do Gunter If they're 809 00:41:41.920 --> 00:41:46.199 doing champion versus champion, what's that they can't do Goldberg 810 00:41:46.320 --> 00:41:48.840 versus gun Terry's fits champion versus champion for the SOUD 811 00:41:48.960 --> 00:41:51.800 world suggesting that Gunter may lose the title to Sammy Zein, 812 00:41:52.639 --> 00:41:54.800 And so Sammy Zain goes into Crown Jewel to defend 813 00:41:54.800 --> 00:41:57.639 against Cody Rhods title verse title with the whole you know, 814 00:41:58.199 --> 00:42:02.440 tailwind of Sammy being huge and in that Arabic speaking country. 815 00:42:02.920 --> 00:42:07.159 If they take away ah, if they take Gunter's title away, 816 00:42:08.159 --> 00:42:10.199 I mean, listen, I like Sammy Zain, and I think 817 00:42:10.239 --> 00:42:13.320 that there is nobody more deserving of a World Championship 818 00:42:13.400 --> 00:42:16.760 run than Sammy Zin on this current roster based on 819 00:42:16.840 --> 00:42:20.960 the shit that I've seen. But no, no, it's not time, 820 00:42:22.079 --> 00:42:22.880 it's getting juicy. 821 00:42:23.519 --> 00:42:26.519 Yeah, Gabe also rights no one like Saudi Arabia instant 822 00:42:26.719 --> 00:42:32.039 loud booze at the mention women's match, putting crowd to sleep. 823 00:42:32.079 --> 00:42:34.199 And also maybe we get Rocky that'd be okay. And 824 00:42:34.280 --> 00:42:36.719 indeed he ended up getting the rock. And when the 825 00:42:36.800 --> 00:42:39.000 rock returns, that's when things really get fascinating. 826 00:42:40.320 --> 00:42:43.760 I see just looking changes and yeah, and ideas go 827 00:42:43.960 --> 00:42:45.360 flying out the fucking window. 828 00:42:45.559 --> 00:42:48.719 Time for fifteen minute social media videos that he goes 829 00:42:48.719 --> 00:42:52.239 into business himself producing walking around the building with his 830 00:42:52.320 --> 00:42:54.800 Versace vest and saying fuck when no one else is 831 00:42:54.800 --> 00:42:57.800 allowed to yep yep. So really really guessed and dialed 832 00:42:57.840 --> 00:43:00.840 in for that. So again all to say best of 833 00:43:00.920 --> 00:43:03.239 luck to Gabe. I'm sure even though the procedure is 834 00:43:03.320 --> 00:43:06.199 upon us, he would still he and his family would 835 00:43:06.199 --> 00:43:08.199 still very much appreciate support on the go fund me. 836 00:43:08.559 --> 00:43:12.679 He came that last look within several thousand dollars of 837 00:43:12.719 --> 00:43:16.840 the goal, but really was humbled by the by the 838 00:43:16.920 --> 00:43:19.559 amount of outpouring that he received, in particular from members 839 00:43:19.599 --> 00:43:22.559 of the Solar System. I'm sure many dominated dominated well 840 00:43:22.559 --> 00:43:25.079 I'm sure many did dominate, but I'm sure many donated. 841 00:43:25.559 --> 00:43:29.199 I should say anonymously, but some I was able to 842 00:43:29.320 --> 00:43:33.000 recognize those names made made my heart proud that we 843 00:43:33.119 --> 00:43:35.119 are what we say we are. Here's the Solar System 844 00:43:35.760 --> 00:43:38.480 and and so yeah, do consider if you haven't been 845 00:43:38.480 --> 00:43:41.159 able to chip in, or might be interested in chipping 846 00:43:41.199 --> 00:43:43.920 in some more, Just google a Gabey Oak and yo 847 00:43:44.039 --> 00:43:45.800 cum as his last name, GoFundMe. 848 00:43:45.960 --> 00:43:47.920 It'll come up. You'll see it all and you'll be. 849 00:43:47.920 --> 00:43:53.360 Able to help. So salute and best wishes. When we 850 00:43:53.400 --> 00:43:54.880 talk about Sid, what do we talk about? We talk 851 00:43:54.880 --> 00:43:55.760 about Viennas right. 852 00:43:56.239 --> 00:44:00.599 Of course, I'm Vienna Sausages and I send him an 853 00:44:00.599 --> 00:44:01.559 autograph picture. 854 00:44:02.960 --> 00:44:05.639 I'm saving this for when we do the CID like feedback, 855 00:44:05.679 --> 00:44:06.880 wrap up, look back show. 856 00:44:07.440 --> 00:44:09.320 But I have reason to believe. 857 00:44:10.519 --> 00:44:13.880 That we that the amount of Solar System members that 858 00:44:13.960 --> 00:44:16.760 have actually sent cans of Vienna sausages to Sid's church 859 00:44:16.840 --> 00:44:17.599 in Memphis. 860 00:44:17.360 --> 00:44:17.880 Is not zero. 861 00:44:18.320 --> 00:44:23.199 Oh my god, I've seen confirmation of delivery receipts in 862 00:44:23.280 --> 00:44:29.079 my inbox. Oh does this not make sense that. 863 00:44:29.280 --> 00:44:34.639 That is Listen, he sent my church a case of 864 00:44:34.760 --> 00:44:37.960 Vienna sausages and I sent him an autograph picture. 865 00:44:38.800 --> 00:44:41.760 Case what if? What if? What if? What if the 866 00:44:41.920 --> 00:44:47.280 church sends sends people autograph pictures of Sid. Oh my god, 867 00:44:47.440 --> 00:44:49.960 yeah he left just a box of him, yeah, with 868 00:44:50.119 --> 00:44:54.119 a note that's like that's in the present tense, saying 869 00:44:54.239 --> 00:44:56.440 like thanks so much for helping us out. They never 870 00:44:56.519 --> 00:44:59.039 find out he died, yeah, or like they're just like, well, 871 00:44:59.079 --> 00:45:00.880 fuck it, we gotta you know, let's just act like 872 00:45:00.920 --> 00:45:03.199 he's not dead. Case of Vienna's. 873 00:45:03.800 --> 00:45:07.039 We've got a serious case of the vienna's balls deep 874 00:45:07.079 --> 00:45:10.079 in Sid's career, and uh, you know what. 875 00:45:10.119 --> 00:45:11.719 Else has a case of the viennas these days in 876 00:45:11.760 --> 00:45:15.960 the Solar System. Circle Boss, progressingts dot Com, slash laps 877 00:45:16.000 --> 00:45:16.760 Fan got it right. 878 00:45:16.800 --> 00:45:20.320 Our pro Wrestling t store. Tell them what is available 879 00:45:20.639 --> 00:45:22.440 in conjunction with the tribute. 880 00:45:22.960 --> 00:45:27.400 Well, we've got we've got Sids Vicious Viennas shirt with 881 00:45:30.199 --> 00:45:33.159 with the with a with a little a little uh 882 00:45:34.159 --> 00:45:40.519 vienna with a face and SIDS here on the vienna. 883 00:45:44.239 --> 00:45:49.599 And then we have the the the Church softball shirt 884 00:45:49.719 --> 00:45:54.360 which the team was sponsored by, Uh Sids Vicious Vienna's. 885 00:45:54.960 --> 00:45:57.719 I mean, if you want to pay tribute to Sid 886 00:45:57.800 --> 00:46:00.840 in a way that says like I know way more 887 00:46:00.840 --> 00:46:01.599 about Sid than. 888 00:46:01.519 --> 00:46:05.079 You do, or I know way more about Sid than 889 00:46:05.119 --> 00:46:05.559 I should. 890 00:46:06.360 --> 00:46:08.280 Pro Wrestling Tees dot Com slash the Lapse Fan is 891 00:46:08.320 --> 00:46:11.000 the place to purchase said proof, especially as we head 892 00:46:11.039 --> 00:46:12.559 into the holiday season and you wonder what you get 893 00:46:12.599 --> 00:46:14.199 a laps fan in your life. 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You're damn fucking right. 937 00:48:24.199 --> 00:48:25.840 Regarding to It's just wanted to let you know I'm 938 00:48:25.920 --> 00:48:28.000 very happy with my purchase from chop Teas. Now I 939 00:48:28.039 --> 00:48:29.599 can start spreading the good word to all of my 940 00:48:29.679 --> 00:48:31.960 confused go workers to keep up all the amazing work. 941 00:48:32.400 --> 00:48:33.880 And he also wants us to know that the Bond 942 00:48:33.960 --> 00:48:36.079 journey has been phenomenal to UTC for life. You out 943 00:48:36.079 --> 00:48:38.239 are the cinemat boss gonna swing back around. 944 00:48:38.400 --> 00:48:41.360 Oh yeah, yep, yep. Once, uh, you know, once, once 945 00:48:41.400 --> 00:48:44.679 Halloween has uh is in the rearview mirror, mirror, We're 946 00:48:44.679 --> 00:48:47.239 going to wrap up our uh, our James Bond journey 947 00:48:47.280 --> 00:48:49.840 in the month of November. It's uh. And again, like 948 00:48:49.960 --> 00:48:52.719 I said, it's it was always intended that there would 949 00:48:52.760 --> 00:48:57.000 be a break. So it actually just coincided beautifully that 950 00:48:57.679 --> 00:48:59.639 that it was a scary movie season because you know 951 00:48:59.679 --> 00:49:02.599 what then to me, at least where there's a real 952 00:49:02.679 --> 00:49:04.920 reason for it, you know, there's a real thing to 953 00:49:05.039 --> 00:49:06.800 turn to instead of, you know, a few weeks of 954 00:49:07.360 --> 00:49:10.480 random movies to take a break, because again, like I've said, 955 00:49:11.000 --> 00:49:15.119 and those who've seen it know, the Daniel Craig James 956 00:49:15.199 --> 00:49:20.800 Bond movies are on a different like it's almost like 957 00:49:20.880 --> 00:49:25.840 a different universe than like it's a parallel universe to 958 00:49:25.960 --> 00:49:27.840 the James Bond. We've been watching. 959 00:49:27.800 --> 00:49:33.119 Absolutely so much going on yes here at TLFHQ and 960 00:49:33.239 --> 00:49:38.239 celebration of ten years of absolute domination and pillaging. It 961 00:49:38.320 --> 00:49:41.000 continues with the TLFX Games. This is such a great 962 00:49:41.079 --> 00:49:45.840 way to observe the occasion, to observe this special anniversary, 963 00:49:46.400 --> 00:49:48.880 and it's a tournament to determine the greatest character in 964 00:49:48.920 --> 00:49:50.280 the history of the cast. It's the King of the 965 00:49:50.320 --> 00:49:52.599 Cast tournament and keeping with the crown jewel of it all. 966 00:49:53.519 --> 00:49:57.039 This year and the election season and the Olympics, it all, 967 00:49:58.239 --> 00:50:01.559 it's all echoed in the t FX Games. And we 968 00:50:01.639 --> 00:50:07.760 are down to a titillating quarterfinal, round final four. This 969 00:50:07.960 --> 00:50:13.960 is this is now to the point that you really 970 00:50:14.039 --> 00:50:17.239 have to make some decisions. Yes, yes, a long time listen. 971 00:50:17.840 --> 00:50:21.119 I mean these are all you know, these are some 972 00:50:21.320 --> 00:50:26.599 fucking main event matches here in terms of you know, 973 00:50:26.800 --> 00:50:28.960 not that we haven't had or main event matches to 974 00:50:28.960 --> 00:50:29.239 begin with. 975 00:50:29.320 --> 00:50:31.239 Oh, there were some stiff matchups you'd put what Hogan 976 00:50:31.320 --> 00:50:33.559 and Savage in the beginning. People weren't ready to pick 977 00:50:33.599 --> 00:50:33.840 a five. 978 00:50:33.840 --> 00:50:36.920 I mean, I'll say this, you know, I mean Vince McMahon. 979 00:50:37.039 --> 00:50:39.159 The laps Vince the whole time he's been in all 980 00:50:39.239 --> 00:50:43.159 main event matches, right, you know, So this is this 981 00:50:43.280 --> 00:50:46.159 one though, this is gonna be This is a tough one. 982 00:50:46.519 --> 00:50:48.320 On the left side of the bracket laps Davy boy 983 00:50:48.360 --> 00:50:50.880 Smith versus laps and Kevin Nash and laps Jesse the 984 00:50:50.920 --> 00:50:54.599 Body Ventura versus lapsed Andre the Giant. On the right 985 00:50:54.639 --> 00:50:57.199 side of the bracket laps Dusty Rhodes versus lapsed Helen 986 00:50:57.280 --> 00:51:04.159 Hart and lapsed Vince McMahon versus lapsed Hulk Hogan. The 987 00:51:04.239 --> 00:51:07.239 poetry of it as it develops organically, it really, it 988 00:51:07.400 --> 00:51:08.039 is so true. 989 00:51:08.599 --> 00:51:09.440 It is so true. 990 00:51:09.960 --> 00:51:11.519 And if all goes according to plan, by the time 991 00:51:11.559 --> 00:51:15.440 you hear this, voting rather and the final four round 992 00:51:15.440 --> 00:51:17.320 should have opened over on our X account. That's where 993 00:51:17.320 --> 00:51:19.199 we're holding the polls to turn it over the public 994 00:51:19.280 --> 00:51:21.920 and decide who advances. And what started out as a 995 00:51:22.039 --> 00:51:23.159 thirty two person field. 996 00:51:24.119 --> 00:51:26.880 By the time by the time this this this drops, 997 00:51:26.920 --> 00:51:29.039 you know what, we may have We may be on 998 00:51:29.159 --> 00:51:31.360 the onder the next round, the semi finals of We 999 00:51:31.480 --> 00:51:34.159 may be both. Yeah, I mean gonna win. 1000 00:51:34.400 --> 00:51:37.320 With so many days open, maybe maybe we'll extend the 1001 00:51:37.360 --> 00:51:39.239 window a little bit so that people that for some 1002 00:51:39.360 --> 00:51:41.480 reason are slacking and or it might not be an 1003 00:51:41.679 --> 00:51:45.239 x and only hear about the TLFX Games tournament through 1004 00:51:45.320 --> 00:51:47.119 the podcast. We'll get a little bit more time to 1005 00:51:47.199 --> 00:51:49.480 vote on this, because this is one. Now let's getting 1006 00:51:49.480 --> 00:51:51.039 to the point that I don't blame it. I don't 1007 00:51:51.039 --> 00:51:52.920 blame people for taking a little time with their ballots, 1008 00:51:52.920 --> 00:51:56.159 you know what I mean, Maybe a few more days 1009 00:51:56.199 --> 00:52:01.519 makes sense. I mean, yeah, because this is fucking Have 1010 00:52:01.639 --> 00:52:02.159 you voted? 1011 00:52:03.360 --> 00:52:05.159 No, I have not voted. Have you voted? No, I 1012 00:52:05.199 --> 00:52:06.239 can't vote. I can't vote. 1013 00:52:06.280 --> 00:52:06.320 No. 1014 00:52:06.400 --> 00:52:09.800 I I'm actually thrilled to hear you say that, because 1015 00:52:09.840 --> 00:52:11.320 as soon as you ask me that, I'm like, oh shit, 1016 00:52:11.400 --> 00:52:12.679 we should have just talked about that. 1017 00:52:15.119 --> 00:52:15.159 No. 1018 00:52:15.719 --> 00:52:16.159 No, I. 1019 00:52:16.360 --> 00:52:21.239 I employees are not eligible for any gifts or contests, 1020 00:52:21.280 --> 00:52:22.559 as they have to say on the radio. 1021 00:52:22.800 --> 00:52:25.000 Yeah, so no, that's not. 1022 00:52:25.079 --> 00:52:27.079 We're not putting our thumb on the scale in any way, 1023 00:52:27.119 --> 00:52:28.480 shape or form. And I'll tell you when it comes 1024 00:52:28.519 --> 00:52:30.639 to like laps editor versus Laps Jesse, it can come 1025 00:52:30.679 --> 00:52:31.519 down to a few votes. 1026 00:52:32.239 --> 00:52:35.679 I mean, I'm expecting that with Vince in Hogan. Honestly, Yeah, 1027 00:52:36.239 --> 00:52:39.599 I really am. I. I you know, I'll tell you 1028 00:52:39.719 --> 00:52:45.199 what if if if we hadn't, I would actually say 1029 00:52:45.400 --> 00:52:49.719 it would be a shoeing for for lapsed Vince if 1030 00:52:51.000 --> 00:52:54.400 if we hadn't done TNH. I think TNH was a 1031 00:52:54.480 --> 00:52:56.000 huge game changer, fascinating. 1032 00:52:57.039 --> 00:52:58.960 Well, we ended up doing as deep a dive in 1033 00:52:59.079 --> 00:53:01.800 a psyche as we did to Vince's through the trial 1034 00:53:01.840 --> 00:53:02.320 of his life. 1035 00:53:02.639 --> 00:53:05.239 Yes, exactly by virtue of that, because. 1036 00:53:05.000 --> 00:53:07.880 The Hulk's TNA run really tells you who the man is, 1037 00:53:08.119 --> 00:53:10.960 you know, yes, as opposed too the character is. And 1038 00:53:12.039 --> 00:53:13.840 just just amazing times. What a way to ring in 1039 00:53:14.000 --> 00:53:16.000 our ten year anniversary. We're so thrilled the way this 1040 00:53:16.079 --> 00:53:18.320 has been playing out and how engaging it's been. In 1041 00:53:18.400 --> 00:53:21.079 a big shout out to our supporters over at Garage Beer, 1042 00:53:21.519 --> 00:53:24.920 the TLF approved the top that you can pop this 1043 00:53:25.039 --> 00:53:28.760 holiday season. Man, these guys are growing strong and fast. 1044 00:53:29.519 --> 00:53:32.159 We were on board early with the big fucking thumbs up. 1045 00:53:32.440 --> 00:53:34.199 They were on our side for the Philly Live show 1046 00:53:34.199 --> 00:53:37.199 at WrestleMania this year, and we couldn't be more thrilled 1047 00:53:37.280 --> 00:53:40.039 that they've deemed the TLFX Games a worthy cause to 1048 00:53:40.119 --> 00:53:43.360 assign a little bit of that brand equity to. So 1049 00:53:44.119 --> 00:53:47.440 deep appreciation to our friends at Garage Beer for helping 1050 00:53:47.519 --> 00:53:50.599 bring you the King of the Cast tournament, and we 1051 00:53:50.719 --> 00:53:53.639 mentioned a live show. We reference this already on the 1052 00:53:53.679 --> 00:53:55.480 live call for Bad Blood for those of you who 1053 00:53:55.519 --> 00:53:58.920 didn't hear every match there. We've made a decision we 1054 00:53:59.000 --> 00:54:00.760 will not be doing a live sho in Las Vegas 1055 00:54:00.800 --> 00:54:03.840 in conjunction with WrestleMania next year. Vegas is just not 1056 00:54:03.920 --> 00:54:06.559 going to make sense, especially on Easter Sunday. I mean, 1057 00:54:06.599 --> 00:54:08.519 that's what they get. Honestly, that's what they get for 1058 00:54:08.639 --> 00:54:12.320 not doing Mini when everybody knows Minneapolis was due. Vegas 1059 00:54:12.440 --> 00:54:14.840 is boring. Vegas is It's not boring. I mean, it's 1060 00:54:14.880 --> 00:54:17.559 just too It's too exciting, you know what I mean, right, 1061 00:54:17.679 --> 00:54:21.360 I mean to take over the town, like the fun 1062 00:54:21.440 --> 00:54:22.000 of it is. 1063 00:54:22.960 --> 00:54:26.880 I think the the fun of it is is bringing 1064 00:54:26.960 --> 00:54:30.840 it to a place where it really transforms. It's kind 1065 00:54:30.840 --> 00:54:31.880 of adds something. 1066 00:54:33.719 --> 00:54:35.760 Of any area. We've been in Vegas so many time, 1067 00:54:36.239 --> 00:54:36.480 I know. 1068 00:54:36.599 --> 00:54:39.360 And even LA, it's like, you know, it's bringing it 1069 00:54:39.400 --> 00:54:41.239 to a new area of LA because LA is so 1070 00:54:41.320 --> 00:54:43.559 fucking big. Like when they did LA, it was like, 1071 00:54:43.639 --> 00:54:45.800 you know, it's in the brand new space, you know, 1072 00:54:45.960 --> 00:54:47.199 the whatever Sofi. 1073 00:54:47.840 --> 00:54:49.679 This is a leading stadium. I've never come close to it. 1074 00:54:49.719 --> 00:54:51.039 It's it's just as new as so Fine. 1075 00:54:51.039 --> 00:54:53.320 It's a different part of town. But but again it's Vegas. 1076 00:54:53.440 --> 00:54:55.519 It's like it's not so that's not going to turn sisely, 1077 00:54:55.880 --> 00:54:58.440 it's not going to actually make a dent in Las Vegas. 1078 00:54:58.519 --> 00:55:01.880 Las Vegas. You know, it's like you can't you know, 1079 00:55:02.320 --> 00:55:05.239 Vegas is going to over it's like overpowering as it is. 1080 00:55:05.400 --> 00:55:06.000 You know, I don't. 1081 00:55:06.199 --> 00:55:08.519 And it's not just it doesn't happen to be terribly 1082 00:55:08.639 --> 00:55:11.199 convenient to where our sense of where we're strongest is 1083 00:55:11.280 --> 00:55:14.519 where most fans are concentrated, you know. Right, we were 1084 00:55:14.519 --> 00:55:16.280 able to get a bunch of fly ins to LA 1085 00:55:16.440 --> 00:55:18.920 and have a great turnout for our first Wrestlmingia live show, 1086 00:55:19.559 --> 00:55:21.280 and we've got a great turnout in Philly because we're 1087 00:55:21.320 --> 00:55:23.639 so strong on the East coast so what we're going 1088 00:55:23.719 --> 00:55:26.760 to do instead of WrestleMania in terms of a live show. 1089 00:55:26.800 --> 00:55:28.639 And we say this early and often because you know 1090 00:55:28.760 --> 00:55:30.679 it might be somewhere deep in the recesses of a 1091 00:55:30.760 --> 00:55:33.280 handful of people's minds that, Okay, if I go to Mania, 1092 00:55:33.400 --> 00:55:35.840 like go to the TLF as well, I want people 1093 00:55:35.840 --> 00:55:37.079 to count on that if it's not going to happen. 1094 00:55:37.119 --> 00:55:38.679 And we've done Vegas, we did star. 1095 00:55:38.599 --> 00:55:40.880 Cast two and it was great, but it's there's no 1096 00:55:41.000 --> 00:55:43.840 novelty there for us at all. So well, where we 1097 00:55:43.920 --> 00:55:46.960 are rock solid is is in the most important city 1098 00:55:46.960 --> 00:55:49.800 in the world. This only makes sense, right, Yes, I mean, 1099 00:55:49.880 --> 00:55:53.880 we over index to the highest end of wrestling fandom, 1100 00:55:54.079 --> 00:55:57.519 we over index to the highest end of podcasting. And 1101 00:55:57.719 --> 00:56:00.159 so I don't know if Summer Slam's going to come 1102 00:56:00.159 --> 00:56:03.280 back to New York next August, why don't why don't 1103 00:56:03.280 --> 00:56:05.079 your CoA chairman set up a live show for anyone 1104 00:56:05.119 --> 00:56:07.239 who's who's headed to MetLife Stadium. 1105 00:56:07.559 --> 00:56:09.599 I mean, and we've you know, we've done it. We've 1106 00:56:09.639 --> 00:56:14.119 been there. Uh we have hit up the uh MetLife 1107 00:56:14.159 --> 00:56:18.519 on on on several occasions for for WrestleMania. So it'll 1108 00:56:18.519 --> 00:56:21.159 be uh, it'll be nice to actually, you know, do 1109 00:56:21.239 --> 00:56:26.599 a live show, uh you know, kind of in well, 1110 00:56:26.599 --> 00:56:28.559 I don't know, either New Jersey or New York, whichever 1111 00:56:28.559 --> 00:56:28.960 want it ends. 1112 00:56:29.000 --> 00:56:30.519 We're pretty sure we're going to be in the heart 1113 00:56:30.960 --> 00:56:34.320 of New York. The homie Ray Gooots is in play. 1114 00:56:35.000 --> 00:56:37.480 We're talking about it. We're looking at venues, and we 1115 00:56:37.599 --> 00:56:39.960 feel really confident, based on where he is strong as 1116 00:56:40.000 --> 00:56:42.400 well as where we're strong, that we're going to come 1117 00:56:42.800 --> 00:56:46.159 with a very very serious proposition for every building. But 1118 00:56:46.239 --> 00:56:47.159 it'll be in the summertime. 1119 00:56:47.199 --> 00:56:47.599 And I don't know. 1120 00:56:47.679 --> 00:56:50.119 I mean, Jesus Christ, if we do somewher next year, 1121 00:56:50.159 --> 00:56:52.760 I mean, yeah, hey, the next summer slam is is 1122 00:56:53.039 --> 00:56:54.400 is where we wanted to be Mini. 1123 00:56:54.400 --> 00:56:56.440 That's true, and we can go to we can go 1124 00:56:56.480 --> 00:56:59.519 to Kat's Delhi after the after our live show in 1125 00:56:59.639 --> 00:56:59.960 New York. 1126 00:57:00.119 --> 00:57:02.199 Oh shit, that was such a smatchhit for the special 1127 00:57:02.280 --> 00:57:05.199 Moat event we did last time around this year for 1128 00:57:05.280 --> 00:57:10.039 The Boss and his live play. Yes, yes, indeed, a 1129 00:57:10.119 --> 00:57:12.760 live play, live presentation. And I say that because of 1130 00:57:12.800 --> 00:57:14.960 course all plays are live. But we were in the 1131 00:57:15.599 --> 00:57:19.440 immersive theater. Yes, oh the play was especially live. 1132 00:57:20.079 --> 00:57:22.679 It was indeed, it was very listen you can't get 1133 00:57:22.760 --> 00:57:25.079 much more live than that. Honestly, if Sid had been there, 1134 00:57:25.119 --> 00:57:27.800 I might have gotten shoved with scissors. 1135 00:57:27.400 --> 00:57:27.880 In my gut. 1136 00:57:28.280 --> 00:57:29.800 Had such a terrific time. I thought there were some 1137 00:57:29.880 --> 00:57:32.679 Moat members out there, and there are some ideas in 1138 00:57:32.719 --> 00:57:34.679 the works for the tail end for the fourth quarter. 1139 00:57:34.719 --> 00:57:36.440 I guess you could say of twenty twenty four as 1140 00:57:36.480 --> 00:57:36.960 well for the Moat. 1141 00:57:37.000 --> 00:57:37.159 Here. 1142 00:57:37.239 --> 00:57:41.360 Nothing's crystallized yet, but Boss is continuing to make big moves, 1143 00:57:41.440 --> 00:57:45.840 as we've referenced several times on the show, and another 1144 00:57:45.920 --> 00:57:48.079 one another big shoe was about to drop, and it 1145 00:57:48.079 --> 00:57:50.199 would only be appropriate if we put something together for 1146 00:57:50.400 --> 00:57:52.880 our nearest and dearest for that as well, So keep 1147 00:57:52.920 --> 00:57:54.800 your ears peeled. This is all to say we're heading 1148 00:57:54.840 --> 00:57:57.559 into the holiday season where we really we don't take 1149 00:57:57.639 --> 00:57:58.480 our foot off the gas. 1150 00:57:58.599 --> 00:57:59.920 We fucking lay on the gas. 1151 00:58:00.159 --> 00:58:04.440 We oh, we attack the gas like Santa attacks, you know, 1152 00:58:04.519 --> 00:58:08.960 the cookies that you leave behind. It's gonna get crazy 1153 00:58:09.000 --> 00:58:11.320 with all the Christmas content, and it's all built, of course, 1154 00:58:11.400 --> 00:58:14.920 around the Christmas show. And it's already October. My god, 1155 00:58:15.039 --> 00:58:16.559 it's already the second week of October. 1156 00:58:17.480 --> 00:58:18.679 And I got to you know what, I got to 1157 00:58:18.679 --> 00:58:21.559 make a fucking trip to the post office. See what's 1158 00:58:21.599 --> 00:58:22.519 doing there? Think you do? 1159 00:58:22.719 --> 00:58:24.920 I think you really do, because folks are heating the 1160 00:58:25.000 --> 00:58:28.679 call to not miss the actual unwrappening event this year, 1161 00:58:28.760 --> 00:58:31.880 as the co chairman get together to record live reactions 1162 00:58:31.920 --> 00:58:34.280 to gifts that you, the members of the TLF Solar 1163 00:58:34.360 --> 00:58:38.199 System see fit to send to us. It's a wonderful 1164 00:58:38.199 --> 00:58:40.840 tradition and long may it continue, and of course the 1165 00:58:40.920 --> 00:58:42.840 lifeblood of it is what you guys can come up with. 1166 00:58:43.199 --> 00:58:45.159 Please don't feel like the bar is too high. Everyone 1167 00:58:45.239 --> 00:58:47.480 out does themselves every year, and as much as it 1168 00:58:47.519 --> 00:58:50.280 blows us away, like you just have to send one thing, 1169 00:58:50.440 --> 00:58:52.239 like we you know, we love you guys, but we 1170 00:58:52.280 --> 00:58:54.639 don't know twelve things. I mean, it's we don't need 1171 00:58:54.719 --> 00:58:55.960 one thing, okay. 1172 00:58:55.920 --> 00:59:00.000 Right right, I mean, but it's just it's a globe 1173 00:59:00.320 --> 00:59:01.280 glorious thing. Yeah. 1174 00:59:01.360 --> 00:59:02.960 And look, we know when we say this that that 1175 00:59:03.239 --> 00:59:05.599 makes you probably even more likely to send too much. 1176 00:59:05.719 --> 00:59:08.840 But it's just well, if there's anybody out there who's like, man, 1177 00:59:08.960 --> 00:59:11.159 some of these presents are ridiculous, Like I don't even 1178 00:59:11.199 --> 00:59:11.960 know if I can compete. 1179 00:59:12.239 --> 00:59:15.119 Just trust it. No, no, honestly, because I think I 1180 00:59:15.159 --> 00:59:16.920 think one of the funniest ones and one of the 1181 00:59:17.000 --> 00:59:20.800 most memorable ones, Like from last year was the uh 1182 00:59:21.239 --> 00:59:23.559 the chat GPT shit. 1183 00:59:23.519 --> 00:59:28.119 Yeah, just printed out pages and chat GPT generated scenes 1184 00:59:28.199 --> 00:59:28.920 and lapsed. 1185 00:59:29.079 --> 00:59:32.119 Uh. You know circumstances. We love it. 1186 00:59:32.239 --> 00:59:33.719 We love anything you can come up with. We've got 1187 00:59:34.079 --> 00:59:38.039 uh we got the full master list of of of 1188 00:59:38.199 --> 00:59:41.840 tapes that people have. We've gotten like Excel spreadsheets printed 1189 00:59:41.880 --> 00:59:45.239 out in the past, We've gotten scripts, We've gotten just 1190 00:59:45.320 --> 00:59:47.199 so many cool things that people have come up with 1191 00:59:47.639 --> 00:59:50.440 over the years. And it's really it's really cool. It's 1192 00:59:50.480 --> 00:59:52.760 one of a kind, and we're gonna keep fucking pounding. 1193 00:59:52.800 --> 00:59:56.320 We're already well positioned. Folks weren't fucking around after last year, 1194 00:59:56.360 --> 00:59:57.119 and some gifts came in. 1195 00:59:57.199 --> 00:59:59.440 Late yeah yeah, yeah. 1196 00:59:59.480 --> 01:00:02.119 The peelbog is already getting attacked. 1197 01:00:03.159 --> 01:00:06.400 And some and some gifts end up uh yeah, like 1198 01:00:06.480 --> 01:00:09.360 getting floating over because from last year, I think too indeed, 1199 01:00:09.559 --> 01:00:10.360 which makes some sense. 1200 01:00:10.400 --> 01:00:11.639 So if you want to make sure you get in 1201 01:00:11.800 --> 01:00:14.440 under the wire, think about it now, think about it 1202 01:00:14.480 --> 01:00:16.480 before it's time to think about gifts for the actual 1203 01:00:16.519 --> 01:00:18.079 people you care about in your family, you know what 1204 01:00:18.119 --> 01:00:19.519 I mean, Like, get us out of the way, so 1205 01:00:19.639 --> 01:00:21.639 that when the time comes you can just enjoy the 1206 01:00:21.880 --> 01:00:24.079 show with that extra spark of what are they going 1207 01:00:24.119 --> 01:00:24.760 to get to my thing? 1208 01:00:24.840 --> 01:00:28.039 And how's it going to taste right? How's it going 1209 01:00:28.079 --> 01:00:28.360 to agree? 1210 01:00:29.280 --> 01:00:31.480 The PO Box, as always is the Lapsed Fan seven 1211 01:00:31.559 --> 01:00:35.360 ten Main Street, South PO Box one one nine Southbury 1212 01:00:35.800 --> 01:00:38.639 s O U T H b U R Y, Connecticut 1213 01:00:39.079 --> 01:00:42.320 zero six four eight eight laps Fans seven ten Main Street, 1214 01:00:42.400 --> 01:00:45.719 South PEO Box one one nine Southbury, Connecticut zero six 1215 01:00:45.880 --> 01:00:48.280 four eight eight, And we'll see it at the PO 1216 01:00:48.320 --> 01:00:50.360 Box and we'll see you on the fucking Christmas show Box. 1217 01:00:50.800 --> 01:00:53.239 It feels if it feels right to be talking about this, Oh, 1218 01:00:53.360 --> 01:00:54.239 absolutely it does. 1219 01:00:54.639 --> 01:00:55.159 That is great. 1220 01:00:55.199 --> 01:00:58.679 It doesn't feel like we're putting any carts before any horses. 1221 01:00:58.920 --> 01:00:59.800 No, no, no, no. 1222 01:01:00.719 --> 01:01:03.039 He's a lapsed fan wrestling podcast. 1223 01:01:20.400 --> 01:01:24.559 He's a lapsed fan wrestling podcast with Jack and carn SEO. 1224 01:01:24.800 --> 01:01:28.599 MJP SORO And we're so thrilled whenever we get word 1225 01:01:28.679 --> 01:01:30.679 from out there in the grid or ether that we're 1226 01:01:30.800 --> 01:01:35.039 inspiring others to create things. This is one of the 1227 01:01:35.119 --> 01:01:36.960 things that's been the fuel to the engine for ten 1228 01:01:37.039 --> 01:01:39.280 years here at TLF, and we're here to remind you 1229 01:01:39.400 --> 01:01:42.840 that the pal the Homie, Matt Wassong continues to produce 1230 01:01:43.239 --> 01:01:47.519 a really cool TLF inspired podcast. It's not unlike the 1231 01:01:48.039 --> 01:01:50.039 X Games in some ways. It's a tournament sort of 1232 01:01:50.119 --> 01:01:53.239 formatted show called Late Night Wrestling, and we're proud to 1233 01:01:53.400 --> 01:01:55.599 give you a quick date. We've talked about Late Night 1234 01:01:55.599 --> 01:01:58.280 Wrestling on a prior podcast, and Matt has this update 1235 01:01:58.320 --> 01:02:01.719 for the listenership. So Late Night Wrestling we're talking about 1236 01:02:01.840 --> 01:02:05.039 a fictional podcast covering the volatile, spectacular and violent world 1237 01:02:05.119 --> 01:02:08.079 of pro wrestling. It's presented in a radio doc format 1238 01:02:08.159 --> 01:02:10.840 like this American Life. You've got a late night radio vibe. 1239 01:02:11.400 --> 01:02:14.119 The host is Hawk Owens, and Hawk Owens looks at 1240 01:02:14.119 --> 01:02:16.599 the current major stories in pro wrestling and delves into 1241 01:02:16.639 --> 01:02:18.960 the past for moments in wrestling history you may have missed. 1242 01:02:20.239 --> 01:02:21.719 We want to let you know that Late Night Wrestling 1243 01:02:21.760 --> 01:02:24.519 began the second season of its podcast on September thirtieth 1244 01:02:24.559 --> 01:02:26.320 of this year, and the first big event is another 1245 01:02:26.400 --> 01:02:29.440 show put on by a billionaire. This in the fictional 1246 01:02:29.480 --> 01:02:33.000 world of late night Wrestling. Nick van Alfin, Who Were 1247 01:02:33.159 --> 01:02:35.599 Learning is aired to the van Alfin fortune and CEO 1248 01:02:35.679 --> 01:02:43.400 of Sword Inventory startup Blade Books is hosting a pro 1249 01:02:43.440 --> 01:02:47.639 wrestling show. It's called NVA Jam twenty four NVA as 1250 01:02:47.639 --> 01:02:52.760 opposed to Vince's show coming up NDA Jam twenty twenty four. Also, 1251 01:02:52.840 --> 01:02:55.679 he's hosting this event at his massive LA house, We're told, 1252 01:02:55.719 --> 01:02:57.960 which is dubbed the Only Here are some characters that 1253 01:02:58.000 --> 01:03:00.880 you'll be seeing this season on Late Night Wrestling. 1254 01:03:01.000 --> 01:03:07.719 The Analytics Bear formerly the Alaskan Bear. He teamed with God. 1255 01:03:07.920 --> 01:03:10.800 He teamed with the company OWM Analytics and embraced analytics 1256 01:03:10.840 --> 01:03:13.559 in advanced stats, which has led to a lot of success. Oh, 1257 01:03:13.679 --> 01:03:17.159 analytics is basically the York Foundation. But in twenty twenty four, 1258 01:03:17.920 --> 01:03:19.880 why don't we use computers to generate what the next 1259 01:03:19.960 --> 01:03:20.559 move is going to be? 1260 01:03:20.599 --> 01:03:22.840 I mean, what agreed? Why don't we? Why don't we 1261 01:03:23.400 --> 01:03:24.480 what the next gate is going to be? 1262 01:03:24.519 --> 01:03:26.719 For that matter, where's the where is the AI enabled 1263 01:03:26.840 --> 01:03:28.559 WWE Superstar? We're still waiting. 1264 01:03:28.679 --> 01:03:30.280 Yes, you know what I mean. 1265 01:03:32.679 --> 01:03:34.639 He lets us know that we gave him the germ 1266 01:03:34.679 --> 01:03:36.840 of this idea when we riffed on an episode a 1267 01:03:36.920 --> 01:03:39.360 t n H one. He thinks he recalls about a 1268 01:03:39.400 --> 01:03:52.800 wrestler called not big Daddy, but big Data. Yeah, big 1269 01:03:53.960 --> 01:03:56.000 big data. Not to be confused with big tobacco or 1270 01:03:57.039 --> 01:04:02.679 big farm, big pharma. Yes, big data, just to be clear, 1271 01:04:02.800 --> 01:04:08.800 not spelled dadda yeah tata. Matt wants us to know 1272 01:04:08.920 --> 01:04:10.559 that he thinks he already had the idea for the 1273 01:04:10.639 --> 01:04:12.840 Alaskan Bear, so he used that idea as a launching 1274 01:04:12.880 --> 01:04:15.079 point for the York Foundation in twenty twenty four. While 1275 01:04:15.079 --> 01:04:19.440 you're welcome there, Matt. Another character Same Game Parlay Jones, 1276 01:04:19.920 --> 01:04:23.000 the former Same Day Delivery Jones from season one. Instead 1277 01:04:23.000 --> 01:04:26.159 of Soda. He is the spokes wrestler for Safe Bets, 1278 01:04:26.199 --> 01:04:28.559 a new gambling app. He also teams with Home Analytics 1279 01:04:28.639 --> 01:04:32.199 to improve Sweet Pie Clementine. This is a very affable, 1280 01:04:32.400 --> 01:04:35.000 decorated hardcore wrestler. She is the two time Queen of 1281 01:04:35.079 --> 01:04:37.840 the Death Match and one time Duchess of the Death Match. 1282 01:04:37.880 --> 01:04:39.960 A go to move of hers boss and arn Anderson's 1283 01:04:39.960 --> 01:04:44.679 spinebuster on a pile of legos that works for me. Also, 1284 01:04:44.840 --> 01:04:48.239 Florida Man is participating in Late night Wrestling this season. 1285 01:04:48.559 --> 01:04:50.480 Florida Man is the most dangerous man in Florida, and 1286 01:04:50.519 --> 01:04:54.559 that's saying something fucking Christ does it. Ever, he's friends 1287 01:04:54.599 --> 01:04:56.519 with gators and he will do anything to win He's 1288 01:04:56.519 --> 01:05:00.639 also a successful fan boat salesman. How about York lowse 1289 01:05:00.960 --> 01:05:03.679 Real named Paul Lewis. He has never won a wrestling 1290 01:05:03.719 --> 01:05:06.239 match in his life. He lost so much and so 1291 01:05:06.360 --> 01:05:08.360 often that people started calling him pork loose, and he 1292 01:05:08.480 --> 01:05:11.079 just went along with it. However, he's just so upbeat 1293 01:05:11.119 --> 01:05:13.400 and positive. He's always convinced his next match will be 1294 01:05:13.760 --> 01:05:16.800 win number one. His next match it's against Analytics Spear 1295 01:05:16.840 --> 01:05:19.760 at NVA Jam twenty four and of course, a suspiciously 1296 01:05:19.800 --> 01:05:22.440 rejuvenated Hulk Hogan eyes another run on the top. 1297 01:05:22.320 --> 01:05:22.800 Of the Mountain. 1298 01:05:23.320 --> 01:05:25.480 All that and more on season two of Late Night Wrestling. 1299 01:05:25.559 --> 01:05:26.000 Check this out. 1300 01:05:26.400 --> 01:05:28.719 He's really he puts a lot of work into it. 1301 01:05:28.840 --> 01:05:31.199 There's a lot of craftsmanship on it, and it's really cool. 1302 01:05:32.039 --> 01:05:32.719 That's hilarious. 1303 01:05:32.719 --> 01:05:34.159 I love it, and that we had something to do 1304 01:05:34.239 --> 01:05:38.519 with it is definitely definitely a good feeling to have 1305 01:05:39.039 --> 01:05:42.199 as we look back on what ten years of relentless 1306 01:05:42.360 --> 01:05:47.199 LAPPS fan podcasting has meant and produced and caused let's say, 1307 01:05:47.880 --> 01:05:53.239 incubated catalyzed. So it's nineteen ninety two and sid is 1308 01:05:53.320 --> 01:05:58.960 coming back to World Championship Wrestling. Bill Watts has mentioned 1309 01:05:59.320 --> 01:06:01.119 got of played a part in the deal. He writes 1310 01:06:01.119 --> 01:06:03.119 in his book, One guy with a bad rap whom 1311 01:06:03.119 --> 01:06:05.519 I got along with famously was Sid Udy, who wrestled 1312 01:06:05.519 --> 01:06:08.280 his Sid vicious and psycho Sid. I wonder why a 1313 01:06:09.159 --> 01:06:11.440 maniaclyte Bill Watts would have got along with Sid. 1314 01:06:11.519 --> 01:06:15.320 I don't know who knows, who couldn't possibly imagine. 1315 01:06:15.159 --> 01:06:17.840 Everyone told me. Wats writes what a problem Sid was, 1316 01:06:17.920 --> 01:06:19.639 But I don't know that I ever had anyone try 1317 01:06:19.719 --> 01:06:21.679 harder for me than he did. He would soak up 1318 01:06:21.719 --> 01:06:23.519 like a sponge everything I told him, and he tried 1319 01:06:23.559 --> 01:06:25.719 his heart out. Sid had never just been taught a 1320 01:06:25.760 --> 01:06:27.719 lot of the basics of pro wrestling. He'd gotten huge 1321 01:06:27.760 --> 01:06:30.239 pushes because he was such an awesome physical specimen, but 1322 01:06:30.360 --> 01:06:32.199 no one had taken the time with him. I think 1323 01:06:32.280 --> 01:06:34.199 Sid's problem with a lot of people was not ego, 1324 01:06:34.239 --> 01:06:36.760 but trust. He'd been burned in the business, I believe, 1325 01:06:37.000 --> 01:06:38.760 so when he saw that I was shooting straight with him, 1326 01:06:38.800 --> 01:06:40.679 he trusted me. And that doesn't mean Sid and I 1327 01:06:40.760 --> 01:06:47.239 always agreed on everything. That's an insight into Sid's psyche. 1328 01:06:47.320 --> 01:06:50.840 Apparently he likes being having the whip cracked on him. 1329 01:06:50.880 --> 01:06:53.000 Boss. Okay, all right, all right? 1330 01:06:53.199 --> 01:06:55.440 He is talking about the dynamic on a shoot interview. 1331 01:06:56.199 --> 01:06:59.840 I love working under Oleandis or Bill Watts. What guys 1332 01:06:59.880 --> 01:07:03.000 like kind of statives, you know when they call me 1333 01:07:03.119 --> 01:07:04.880 dun motherfucker and this and that I don't. 1334 01:07:04.760 --> 01:07:05.400 Take it to heart. 1335 01:07:08.679 --> 01:07:09.840 Let's have that last part again. 1336 01:07:10.360 --> 01:07:14.000 I love working under Oleanders or Bill Watts or guys 1337 01:07:14.079 --> 01:07:17.440 like that storatives, you know when they call me don 1338 01:07:17.519 --> 01:07:19.559 mother this and that. I don't take it to heart. 1339 01:07:21.960 --> 01:07:25.079 I mean, I'm I'm feel kind of you know, I 1340 01:07:25.199 --> 01:07:30.800 I hear authoritative, so that that to me right, there. 1341 01:07:30.719 --> 01:07:33.239 Is a problem missing a tea in there. Yeah, and 1342 01:07:33.320 --> 01:07:35.039 that's one thing said was never low on te. 1343 01:07:37.480 --> 01:07:37.960 T ball. 1344 01:07:38.239 --> 01:07:38.360 Uh. 1345 01:07:39.679 --> 01:07:42.599 That from the In Your Head Wrestling podcast, which Sid 1346 01:07:42.679 --> 01:07:46.119 made many appearances on in his retirement years, and which 1347 01:07:46.159 --> 01:07:49.199 we'll be accepting. Big shout out to our video and 1348 01:07:49.760 --> 01:07:52.519 In your Head and Hannibal and all these guys that 1349 01:07:52.760 --> 01:07:54.920 got sit on the record over the years, because it 1350 01:07:55.000 --> 01:07:57.320 gives us a real sense into how the guy actually 1351 01:07:57.320 --> 01:07:59.639 felt about his career instead of just watching it back. 1352 01:07:59.679 --> 01:08:02.239 We can yeah, get an idea of the signposts hour 1353 01:08:02.239 --> 01:08:04.400 along the way, Sid the booker, I mean I can't 1354 01:08:04.440 --> 01:08:05.000 conceive of it. 1355 01:08:05.119 --> 01:08:07.039 I can't. But this guy really wanted to book. 1356 01:08:09.039 --> 01:08:13.079 I don't why, you know, It's like it's almost, to me, 1357 01:08:13.239 --> 01:08:15.559 like the syndrome of a guy who knows he's way overpaid, 1358 01:08:15.639 --> 01:08:17.960 so he's got to come up with like this idea 1359 01:08:17.960 --> 01:08:20.560 of himself as someone who's actually a visionary and justifies 1360 01:08:20.640 --> 01:08:23.560 the money, you know, someone who could be much more 1361 01:08:23.600 --> 01:08:27.199 of a utility man than just an entering performer and 1362 01:08:27.279 --> 01:08:30.319 a shoot interview, Sid said, you know, Bill Wats is 1363 01:08:30.319 --> 01:08:31.960 the one who offered me a position in the company 1364 01:08:32.039 --> 01:08:35.039 to work as a booker. First coming to interview for 1365 01:08:35.119 --> 01:08:38.159 his job back, Watts told Sid. According to Sid, I'll 1366 01:08:38.159 --> 01:08:40.439 tell you what man, I like you. He said, would 1367 01:08:40.439 --> 01:08:42.159 you like to work in the office with me? I said, 1368 01:08:42.199 --> 01:08:43.840 that's what I want. He was the first one who 1369 01:08:43.880 --> 01:08:46.880 brought me in. The next two weeks, Sid comes in 1370 01:08:46.920 --> 01:08:49.640 to finish his deal and always in charge, and Bill 1371 01:08:49.720 --> 01:08:52.319 Watts is gone. So I don't know what Bill is 1372 01:08:52.359 --> 01:08:54.000 talking about in his book when he says that, you know, 1373 01:08:54.079 --> 01:08:55.800 Sid was the easiest guy to work with and to 1374 01:08:55.880 --> 01:08:57.680 get the most out of, and who worked hardest for him, 1375 01:08:57.680 --> 01:08:59.600 because he was fucking gone by the time Sid got 1376 01:08:59.600 --> 01:08:59.920 in the ring. 1377 01:09:00.119 --> 01:09:03.520 WCW. I don't understand this, well, you know, uh. 1378 01:09:05.880 --> 01:09:06.199 He was. 1379 01:09:06.359 --> 01:09:09.239 Bill was in WWF in late ninety five when SID 1380 01:09:09.399 --> 01:09:11.359 was back and working with Diesel. So maybe that's what 1381 01:09:11.399 --> 01:09:13.359 he's talking about. He wasn't there, It's just Sid was 1382 01:09:13.359 --> 01:09:18.600 gone by then too. October ninety five, No, I guess 1383 01:09:18.600 --> 01:09:21.479 he was. He was still there in October. That's around 1384 01:09:21.479 --> 01:09:23.680 the fall of ninety five is when Bill comes into WWF. 1385 01:09:24.279 --> 01:09:29.279 Yeah, I I yeah, he's there. He's but after hisarversories 1386 01:09:29.319 --> 01:09:31.600 he's going. And it's before SID and before the it's 1387 01:09:31.720 --> 01:09:33.039 after the deal Diesel stuff. 1388 01:09:33.359 --> 01:09:35.640 Plenty of time to develop a sense of the man's 1389 01:09:35.640 --> 01:09:38.359 work ethic if you ask me, yeah, I suppose one 1390 01:09:38.399 --> 01:09:41.199 way or the other. He did make a a well 1391 01:09:41.279 --> 01:09:43.680 noted stop between WWF and WCW. 1392 01:09:43.840 --> 01:09:44.199 Did Sid. 1393 01:09:44.600 --> 01:09:47.439 He worked one Global Show Boss if you can believe 1394 01:09:47.600 --> 01:09:51.359 there really Global as ESPN Global Wrestling at the sport 1395 01:09:51.399 --> 01:09:52.560 of Tournum in Dallas. 1396 01:09:52.399 --> 01:09:55.399 Against Rod Price. No, not quite. 1397 01:09:56.319 --> 01:09:59.399 He went on April second of nineteen ninety three to 1398 01:09:59.479 --> 01:10:03.079 the Sport of to team with Johnny Rotten, who, apparently, 1399 01:10:03.159 --> 01:10:06.000 according to book Others, was just some friend of his 1400 01:10:06.159 --> 01:10:08.520 who wanted to be in the wrestling business, and so 1401 01:10:08.680 --> 01:10:11.039 Sid brought him around and let him wrestle. That team 1402 01:10:11.399 --> 01:10:15.239 faced a team by the name of the Ebony Experience, 1403 01:10:15.920 --> 01:10:19.439 Booker T and Stevie Ray. Wow, these are the future 1404 01:10:19.479 --> 01:10:22.640 Harlem Heat before they were in WCW and became Harlem 1405 01:10:22.680 --> 01:10:26.960 Heat on ESPN for Global but still very much upstarts, 1406 01:10:26.960 --> 01:10:28.600 still very much trying to find their way and their 1407 01:10:28.680 --> 01:10:30.880 niche in the wrestling business. And this was a very 1408 01:10:30.920 --> 01:10:34.119 important meeting. Do you remember from Wargames nineteen ninety three 1409 01:10:34.159 --> 01:10:36.279 when we did out of war Games and Sid was 1410 01:10:36.319 --> 01:10:38.319 the one who brought Harlem Heat into WCW. 1411 01:10:39.399 --> 01:10:41.399 I don't recall that, but wow, that's fascinating. 1412 01:10:42.000 --> 01:10:45.199 Booker was very forlorn upon learning of the passing of 1413 01:10:45.319 --> 01:10:49.479 Sid because those two, him and his brother owe everything 1414 01:10:49.680 --> 01:10:53.600 to Sid in terms of finding them a spot in 1415 01:10:53.680 --> 01:10:56.640 the big money company WCW, big money relative to what 1416 01:10:56.760 --> 01:10:58.960 other options they may have had before them at the time, 1417 01:10:59.399 --> 01:11:02.000 and getting them much bigger contracts than they had any 1418 01:11:02.079 --> 01:11:04.960 right to expect or even to ask for, and further 1419 01:11:05.479 --> 01:11:07.880 continuing to support and advocate for the Harlem Heat to 1420 01:11:07.880 --> 01:11:10.479 stay on pay roll when the initial idea for their 1421 01:11:10.600 --> 01:11:14.239 characters engineered in large part by Sid himself hit the 1422 01:11:14.319 --> 01:11:16.399 skids very quickly for reasons we'll talk about. Do you 1423 01:11:16.479 --> 01:11:19.680 have any recollection of what that initial idea was for 1424 01:11:19.760 --> 01:11:21.159 Booker and Stevie and WCW. 1425 01:11:21.319 --> 01:11:25.000 What the initial gimmick was something. There's something there, but 1426 01:11:25.000 --> 01:11:25.800 I can't remember what it one. 1427 01:11:25.840 --> 01:11:28.039 Should they come out with chains around their neck being 1428 01:11:28.119 --> 01:11:29.279 dragged around by Colonel Parker? 1429 01:11:29.319 --> 01:11:29.840 Should they do that? 1430 01:11:32.279 --> 01:11:36.880 No, we'll get into what what Sid thought and what 1431 01:11:37.279 --> 01:11:42.119 I think the average person thought about what that presentation signified. 1432 01:11:42.680 --> 01:11:45.319 But the way Sid remembers this and it could it 1433 01:11:45.359 --> 01:11:47.840 could be true when you consider the timeline that this 1434 01:11:48.279 --> 01:11:51.880 Sportatorium show was a Kerrie van Eric benefit show. Kerry, 1435 01:11:51.880 --> 01:11:52.960 of course had killed himself. 1436 01:11:53.319 --> 01:11:53.680 What was it. 1437 01:11:53.760 --> 01:11:58.199 February I think of nineteen ninety three, Yeah, so here 1438 01:11:58.239 --> 01:12:01.199 in April in the sport of time, they're running a 1439 01:12:01.239 --> 01:12:04.399 global show and Sid and Shoot Interviews has talked about 1440 01:12:04.399 --> 01:12:05.840 this event to something he did because it was a 1441 01:12:05.920 --> 01:12:08.800 Kerry von Eric tribute show and the Harlem Heat had 1442 01:12:08.840 --> 01:12:10.239 been in the territory for a year and a half 1443 01:12:10.319 --> 01:12:14.319 at this point, and Booker says that Sid had seen 1444 01:12:14.399 --> 01:12:17.359 them already on ESPN Wrestling before he came to the 1445 01:12:17.359 --> 01:12:20.439 Sportatorium in the Flesh and told them that he was 1446 01:12:20.479 --> 01:12:23.079 impressed with their work. So we're going to turn now 1447 01:12:23.199 --> 01:12:25.880 to Booker T's second book, his underrated second book. If 1448 01:12:25.920 --> 01:12:28.960 he asks me, he gets very little attention. It's called 1449 01:12:29.159 --> 01:12:32.640 My Rise to Wrestling Royalty, and he recollects what it 1450 01:12:32.760 --> 01:12:37.520 was like to be feed hit by the Great Sid 1451 01:12:38.239 --> 01:12:43.640 here right before Sid returns to WCW. It all started 1452 01:12:43.720 --> 01:12:45.960 in eighty nine. For about four years, Lash and I 1453 01:12:46.079 --> 01:12:48.680 had been tiresly running the shows at the Roads rather 1454 01:12:48.760 --> 01:12:51.319 all across Texas, working for ww Fedteran Polish Power, Ivan 1455 01:12:51.319 --> 01:12:54.840 Putsky's Western Wrestling Alliance, the WWA tug Boat Taylor's Texas 1456 01:12:54.880 --> 01:12:57.199 All Pro Wrestling, the independent scene, and then finally the 1457 01:12:57.199 --> 01:13:00.600 Global Wrestling Federation featured on ESPN. All that changed with 1458 01:13:00.720 --> 01:13:01.399 one phone. 1459 01:13:01.199 --> 01:13:01.920 Call from. 1460 01:13:03.279 --> 01:13:07.119 Sid Vicious, the Ruler of the World, who offered us 1461 01:13:07.119 --> 01:13:09.239 an opportunity. He wanted us to go to Atlanta to 1462 01:13:09.319 --> 01:13:11.880 try out for WCW. As the trek from Texas to 1463 01:13:11.920 --> 01:13:14.119 Georgia drew to a close, the sun was rising and 1464 01:13:14.119 --> 01:13:16.880 the Huffman brothers that's Booker and Stevie's real last name, 1465 01:13:17.319 --> 01:13:18.960 could feel the magic at hand. It was a make 1466 01:13:19.039 --> 01:13:21.399 or break time. After hitting the Georgia state line, we 1467 01:13:21.439 --> 01:13:24.479 were neck deep in WCW country and it felt like home. 1468 01:13:24.920 --> 01:13:27.239 During our brief conversation with Sid, there'd been no talk 1469 01:13:27.239 --> 01:13:29.039 about money. We had a foot in the door and 1470 01:13:29.159 --> 01:13:31.359 that was all the chance we needed. I kept analyzing 1471 01:13:31.399 --> 01:13:33.760 everything on the way. Will we impress them enough? Will 1472 01:13:33.800 --> 01:13:35.680 they let us stick around or take one look at 1473 01:13:35.760 --> 01:13:37.119 us in the ring and tell us to get out? 1474 01:13:37.720 --> 01:13:40.279 I was ready to find out. When we drove to Atlanta, 1475 01:13:40.319 --> 01:13:42.159 it was comforting to know we had somewhere to stay. 1476 01:13:42.800 --> 01:13:44.159 Guess where they stayed, boss. 1477 01:13:47.760 --> 01:13:51.880 Um uh with Cody Rhades. 1478 01:13:52.840 --> 01:13:59.039 Correct? No, Sid's house, Oh God, Sid's plays. Sid was 1479 01:13:59.079 --> 01:14:01.000 a well established made venor Booker writes who had a 1480 01:14:01.079 --> 01:14:03.640 huge run in WCW from nineteen eighty nine through nineteen 1481 01:14:03.680 --> 01:14:06.119 ninety one, rubbing shoulders with some of the biggest stars 1482 01:14:06.479 --> 01:14:08.600 and then WWF with guys like Hull and Warrior and 1483 01:14:08.680 --> 01:14:10.880 Randy and Taker. Now he was transitioning into a position 1484 01:14:10.920 --> 01:14:13.880 with WCW is a booker who could produce homegrown talent. 1485 01:14:14.359 --> 01:14:17.720 So this these guys, Booker and Stevie were beneficiaries of 1486 01:14:17.800 --> 01:14:22.159 this Sid as office incarnation. 1487 01:14:22.319 --> 01:14:25.359 That we're getting. I can't handle that. I can't. I 1488 01:14:25.439 --> 01:14:27.039 can't imagine. You've met him in the. 1489 01:14:27.039 --> 01:14:29.039 Polo, you know, on the golf course with the other 1490 01:14:29.119 --> 01:14:32.479 turner execs. Hey, what do you saying, big Sid? 1491 01:14:32.520 --> 01:14:36.319 How's your U? I picture I picture him, you know, right, 1492 01:14:36.399 --> 01:14:39.279 he's wearing you know, he's wearing clothes that he thinks 1493 01:14:40.159 --> 01:14:42.439 are what he should wear. You know, Yeah, like how 1494 01:14:42.439 --> 01:14:44.359 he's wearing the gondols on the beach blast thing. He 1495 01:14:44.680 --> 01:14:47.800 goes to turner offices and everyone's like in suits and 1496 01:14:47.840 --> 01:14:50.119 stuff like that. But yeah, he comes in in like 1497 01:14:50.199 --> 01:14:54.760 a white polo shirt, wearing tucked into jeans and wearing 1498 01:14:54.920 --> 01:14:59.760 like a beige blazer. Oh you know, and he thinks 1499 01:14:59.800 --> 01:15:02.520 that in a in a baseball hat and he thinks 1500 01:15:02.560 --> 01:15:04.039 this is dressing up for work. 1501 01:15:04.760 --> 01:15:09.399 Oh my god, said my god, look at the size 1502 01:15:09.439 --> 01:15:09.760 of this guy. 1503 01:15:09.800 --> 01:15:10.560 I've heard you're here. 1504 01:15:11.600 --> 01:15:14.840 Uh so you're working for the office now, and the 1505 01:15:15.000 --> 01:15:19.119 office I strive. You've been consistent with your driver today, 1506 01:15:19.159 --> 01:15:20.439 said what are you hitting a three wood? 1507 01:15:22.039 --> 01:15:24.039 I'm not. I'm looking to tell you what I'm hitting. 1508 01:15:25.119 --> 01:15:26.720 I hit what I need to hit to get the 1509 01:15:26.840 --> 01:15:36.159 job done. Well, I don't really know what to say 1510 01:15:36.239 --> 01:15:37.760 to that you're you're. 1511 01:15:37.600 --> 01:15:40.720 A unique creature in this corporate environment. I can't wait 1512 01:15:40.760 --> 01:15:42.319 to see you thrive in it. I'm sure you'll bring 1513 01:15:42.359 --> 01:15:44.680 a fascinating touch of personality. 1514 01:15:46.960 --> 01:15:47.720 I'm a big. 1515 01:15:52.680 --> 01:15:52.800 Oh. 1516 01:15:52.840 --> 01:15:54.720 If we have our way to turn home entertainment said, 1517 01:15:54.760 --> 01:15:58.039 you'll be just that. I heard you were offered super shudder, 1518 01:15:58.079 --> 01:15:59.840 but it went to some other moron. 1519 01:16:00.439 --> 01:16:02.520 Shut up, now you look. 1520 01:16:02.800 --> 01:16:04.760 Every one of the chorus turns around, like even the 1521 01:16:04.840 --> 01:16:06.920 next hole. It's like looking back, like, who the fuck 1522 01:16:07.039 --> 01:16:07.199 is that? 1523 01:16:07.800 --> 01:16:10.079 Now? You looking in my eyes? A piece of trash. 1524 01:16:11.520 --> 01:16:15.079 What I will do next if you keep flapping your 1525 01:16:15.159 --> 01:16:18.640 gums and chat me you black we're friends, is I 1526 01:16:18.720 --> 01:16:22.960 will grab you by the throat. I will lift you 1527 01:16:23.159 --> 01:16:25.960 in the air, and I will drive you down to 1528 01:16:26.119 --> 01:16:28.720 the ground. See see it, don't don't sweat it. Man. 1529 01:16:28.960 --> 01:16:30.840 You know we've all got that one hole that just 1530 01:16:30.920 --> 01:16:36.640 doesn't want to cooperate. You don't even know what it 1531 01:16:36.920 --> 01:16:43.399 means to feel the pain of a hole. Just ask arn. 1532 01:16:46.960 --> 01:16:49.720 I don't know, Sida. I'm thinking of seven iron should 1533 01:16:49.720 --> 01:16:50.520 get me right to the green? 1534 01:16:50.880 --> 01:16:52.520 When's picking up a bit? Though? What do you think? 1535 01:16:52.920 --> 01:16:56.560 You don't even know what green is? I was making 1536 01:16:56.680 --> 01:16:59.760 the green when I'm made off any wrestle. 1537 01:17:00.600 --> 01:17:02.680 So it's a hulk cob and so a six iron 1538 01:17:02.800 --> 01:17:04.199 just to play it safe, is what you're saying. 1539 01:17:07.199 --> 01:17:11.680 I suppose six iron would do all right. Make sure 1540 01:17:12.600 --> 01:17:16.840 there's a breeze in the air. It slashes to the left. 1541 01:17:17.000 --> 01:17:17.600 That's looking good. 1542 01:17:21.520 --> 01:17:23.560 Trust me, I know that feeling. You know you got 1543 01:17:23.600 --> 01:17:25.479 one part of your game that's hot, Sid, another part 1544 01:17:25.640 --> 01:17:28.039 is cold. Just have to keep your head down and 1545 01:17:28.079 --> 01:17:28.520 play through it. 1546 01:17:29.439 --> 01:17:33.800 You always keep your head down. That's why you'll never 1547 01:17:33.960 --> 01:17:39.359 get ahead in the game. I'll be watching you. I'll 1548 01:17:39.439 --> 01:17:43.039 be watching you while you sleep. It'll be clicking my 1549 01:17:43.159 --> 01:17:49.520 knife the whole damn time. Uh sounds sounds good? Sid? Uh? 1550 01:17:50.920 --> 01:17:53.279 I hope I hope to be open and grabbing a 1551 01:17:53.319 --> 01:17:55.279 beer after this. I mean, let's finish strong here and 1552 01:17:55.680 --> 01:17:58.760 and get a bruskie. What do you say, let's catch 1553 01:17:58.840 --> 01:17:59.960 that back nine on the televisi. 1554 01:18:00.399 --> 01:18:03.479 I don't mind getting here with you if you don't 1555 01:18:03.680 --> 01:18:08.279 mind sharing a can of Viennas. You mean you mean 1556 01:18:08.319 --> 01:18:08.960 the sausages? 1557 01:18:09.039 --> 01:18:09.680 What what are you? 1558 01:18:11.119 --> 01:18:13.199 I got a package of crackers right here. You know 1559 01:18:13.399 --> 01:18:14.319 exactly what I mean. 1560 01:18:15.279 --> 01:18:18.039 Hey, let me ask you something you're you're in the 1561 01:18:18.119 --> 01:18:21.920 fin ends department, right, Yeah, yeah, indeed, Vince, I'm Vince. 1562 01:18:23.600 --> 01:18:25.359 I'll tell you a lot what I've been watching lately. 1563 01:18:27.079 --> 01:18:27.560 Oh yes, it. 1564 01:18:27.720 --> 01:18:29.600 I mean, you know, I've been the controller for some time, 1565 01:18:29.720 --> 01:18:32.279 and you know, trying to try to find ways to 1566 01:18:33.680 --> 01:18:37.039 assigned to other units of turner your losses and assign 1567 01:18:37.720 --> 01:18:39.560 the wins to you guys, contray. 1568 01:18:39.239 --> 01:18:46.239 To popular belief? How can I get more money? What's 1569 01:18:46.319 --> 01:18:53.880 your budget for Vienna's? Let me ask you something. Do 1570 01:18:54.000 --> 01:18:54.800 you like Viennas? 1571 01:18:56.199 --> 01:18:56.439 Are you? 1572 01:18:56.800 --> 01:18:58.079 I want to just want to be clear. You're talking 1573 01:18:58.119 --> 01:19:00.119 about the Vienna sausages. You getting like a can or 1574 01:19:00.159 --> 01:19:04.840 whatever from you know exactly what I'm saying. 1575 01:19:06.479 --> 01:19:14.159 On the golf course. Shut up, Shut up the psycho 1576 01:19:14.319 --> 01:19:18.439 Sid story. Yeah I like Vienna sausages. Yeah sure, I mean, 1577 01:19:18.600 --> 01:19:21.279 god damn you like them. I like them so much 1578 01:19:21.319 --> 01:19:22.680 that I could buy a case of them right now. 1579 01:19:24.880 --> 01:19:27.000 Would you buy one hundred and fifty thousand cases? 1580 01:19:27.199 --> 01:19:30.520 I would buy fifty thousand cases. Yes, I would donate 1581 01:19:30.600 --> 01:19:35.000 them to the church. Oh yeah, my church. If you 1582 01:19:35.119 --> 01:19:37.319 do that, I'll give you a sign picture of myself. 1583 01:19:43.880 --> 01:19:47.720 If only Sid could say, if you do that, I'll 1584 01:19:47.760 --> 01:19:49.960 give you a signed picture of myself and make it 1585 01:19:50.000 --> 01:19:50.760 sound like a threat. 1586 01:19:55.880 --> 01:19:57.239 So what's the problem with corporate? 1587 01:19:57.279 --> 01:19:58.119 What a deal? 1588 01:19:58.439 --> 01:20:01.039 I buy one hundred and fifty? I was in fucking 1589 01:20:01.239 --> 01:20:04.439 cases of headshot. 1590 01:20:07.239 --> 01:20:14.159 I still I still walk around picturing that garage door 1591 01:20:14.199 --> 01:20:16.720 opening at three thirty in the morning and Memphis, Arkansas 1592 01:20:16.840 --> 01:20:24.319 to But there's all these undistributed boxes. 1593 01:20:25.439 --> 01:20:28.039 Like neat like, so perfectly stacked, and he's. 1594 01:20:27.880 --> 01:20:29.720 Looking down and them like he knows what he has 1595 01:20:29.800 --> 01:20:32.079 to do, and Frank is not gonna like it in 1596 01:20:32.119 --> 01:20:32.520 the least. 1597 01:20:33.600 --> 01:20:33.880 Bitch. 1598 01:20:35.800 --> 01:20:39.399 I still I still think about it. I still think 1599 01:20:39.399 --> 01:20:42.680 about him whispering bedside to deliver the venus. I mean 1600 01:20:42.720 --> 01:20:45.159 I think about it all the time. I mean, I'm 1601 01:20:46.359 --> 01:20:53.720 not kidding you, four times a day minimum, So Booker continues. 1602 01:20:54.119 --> 01:20:57.079 We were his first kids, handpicked projects, and he wanted 1603 01:20:57.119 --> 01:20:59.319 to personally oversee our entry and take care of us 1604 01:20:59.640 --> 01:21:01.159 that all morning. We got out of the car and 1605 01:21:01.239 --> 01:21:02.920 walked to an apartment door to be greeted by the 1606 01:21:03.000 --> 01:21:05.840 man himself. The first thing I can tell you about 1607 01:21:05.840 --> 01:21:07.680 Sid back then was that he was big, really big. 1608 01:21:07.880 --> 01:21:09.479 Not only was he six feet nine, but he was 1609 01:21:09.520 --> 01:21:12.119 even more freakishly muscular in person than he looked on TV. 1610 01:21:12.520 --> 01:21:16.159 He shook our hands house trip, he must be tired 1611 01:21:16.199 --> 01:21:18.920 as hell, Come on in. He grabbed our bags and 1612 01:21:19.000 --> 01:21:22.159 followed Sid into the kitchen, where it was stacked to 1613 01:21:22.199 --> 01:21:25.439 the ceiling with cases of Vienna sasna oh God, which 1614 01:21:25.520 --> 01:21:27.800 was what I always called him back then. Big Sid 1615 01:21:27.960 --> 01:21:30.520 into his fairly modest three bedroom apartment where we'd be 1616 01:21:30.560 --> 01:21:33.119 staying for the duration of our tryout process. Although he 1617 01:21:33.199 --> 01:21:35.319 was a gracious host, Sid wasn't the most social of guys. 1618 01:21:35.520 --> 01:21:37.600 For him, this was business. If we were successful, we'd 1619 01:21:37.600 --> 01:21:39.359 follow in his footsteps and he'd do everything he could 1620 01:21:39.399 --> 01:21:41.319 to make that happen. Sid took us to Sting in 1621 01:21:41.359 --> 01:21:43.880 Lex Luger's gym main event Fitness, not far from his place. 1622 01:21:44.159 --> 01:21:46.039 When we walked in, it was a virtual cavalcade of 1623 01:21:46.079 --> 01:21:48.439 the top guys we saw on TV. The Steiner brothers, 1624 01:21:48.520 --> 01:21:51.720 Rick and Scott Steiner, Mister Wonderful, Paul Orndorf, Ravishing, Rick Rude, 1625 01:21:51.720 --> 01:21:53.640 and even the icon Sting and the total package Lex 1626 01:21:53.720 --> 01:21:56.079 Luger were there. Sid walked around as if he owned 1627 01:21:56.119 --> 01:21:59.359 the place. I can picture that, yeah for sure, and 1628 01:21:59.439 --> 01:22:01.720 he might as well have been, because when he started 1629 01:22:01.800 --> 01:22:04.720 hitting the weights. Everyone took notice. It was impossible not to. 1630 01:22:05.159 --> 01:22:07.079 We soon found out Sid was just as loud and 1631 01:22:07.159 --> 01:22:08.680 intense in the gym as he was in the ring. 1632 01:22:08.720 --> 01:22:13.520 And on the microphone. What what mombent that bedwn deeke phone? 1633 01:22:16.560 --> 01:22:17.319 What might that for? 1634 01:22:17.439 --> 01:22:19.760 Down deeck song? When he's in the. 1635 01:22:19.800 --> 01:22:23.239 Gym, When he's in the gym, rip an iron, trying 1636 01:22:23.279 --> 01:22:25.920 to get a point across to all these idiots, these 1637 01:22:26.039 --> 01:22:30.199 undersized bitch asses who can't command high seven figure salaries, 1638 01:22:30.560 --> 01:22:33.720 who yes, whoa cling? 1639 01:22:34.840 --> 01:22:40.640 Don't understand? He said, ah, come here. 1640 01:22:41.000 --> 01:22:43.079 And prove yes. 1641 01:22:45.359 --> 01:22:47.760 He sent my church in case of being the sausages, 1642 01:22:48.239 --> 01:22:50.000 and I sent him an autograph picture. 1643 01:22:50.119 --> 01:22:53.239 Keep going, keep pumping on. You want something from me, 1644 01:22:53.880 --> 01:23:01.680 You want to understand the loss you got there? You 1645 01:23:01.920 --> 01:23:05.520 pump you pump iron like nobody's business. And I'll give 1646 01:23:05.520 --> 01:23:13.279 you an autograph picture for myself. For he's so generous 1647 01:23:13.319 --> 01:23:15.479 with those autograph pictures. It's almost like he has a 1648 01:23:15.560 --> 01:23:19.000 full inventory of ones that he ordered with fake stamped signatures. 1649 01:23:19.119 --> 01:23:20.680 I'm want to tell you, I'm wanna tell your secret. 1650 01:23:23.680 --> 01:23:28.359 I haven't excess to them because Frank didn't deliver them 1651 01:23:28.399 --> 01:23:32.159 the way he's supposed to. He was supposed to bring 1652 01:23:33.119 --> 01:23:37.880 fifty cases of the pictures with autographs to the church, 1653 01:23:39.079 --> 01:23:43.560 and he forgot. He slipped in. So now I have 1654 01:23:44.000 --> 01:23:49.359 fifty bucks of fucking headshots because Frank's a bitch. 1655 01:23:50.000 --> 01:23:52.199 And I'm like the Vienna's the homeless don't have any 1656 01:23:52.319 --> 01:23:55.600 use for these headshot. I tried putting peanut butter on 1657 01:23:55.680 --> 01:23:56.680 him and they wouldn't take him. 1658 01:23:58.000 --> 01:23:59.800 I made peanut butter and jelly roll ups with the 1659 01:23:59.800 --> 01:24:04.479 pick just nobody ate them. I wonder why. 1660 01:24:05.840 --> 01:24:09.279 Instead of just giving them the peanut butter at the jelly, 1661 01:24:09.920 --> 01:24:12.279 he puts it on a fucking cellophane, he puts it 1662 01:24:12.319 --> 01:24:14.479 on a laminated headshot. 1663 01:24:16.840 --> 01:24:18.239 Thinking you know what, you know, you know how I 1664 01:24:18.279 --> 01:24:20.359 can get rid of these. I can have homeless people 1665 01:24:20.439 --> 01:24:25.319 eat them. That's the play. It's a whole. It's like 1666 01:24:25.439 --> 01:24:30.439 a whole, fucking like tray of you know, it looks 1667 01:24:30.479 --> 01:24:36.760 like enchiladas, but it's sucking shots. It's not but it's 1668 01:24:36.880 --> 01:24:39.880 not enchiladas. It's headshots. 1669 01:24:41.880 --> 01:24:49.960 Talk about heilatas talking about hitting you in the head 1670 01:24:50.000 --> 01:24:55.840 like a shot shot head shiladas. 1671 01:24:59.399 --> 01:25:00.640 Oh is this Christ? 1672 01:25:00.920 --> 01:25:01.039 Oh? 1673 01:25:01.159 --> 01:25:03.680 Hey JB, this is Jesse. The body of Bendora, and 1674 01:25:03.760 --> 01:25:05.199 I want to thank you for being a fan from 1675 01:25:05.239 --> 01:25:08.239 the wrestling days. You had the question for me, Do 1676 01:25:08.439 --> 01:25:12.119 I remember Sid putting peanut butter and jelly on his 1677 01:25:12.199 --> 01:25:13.119 eight X tens? 1678 01:25:13.239 --> 01:25:16.359 No? I really don't. I. Hey, you know this is 1679 01:25:16.520 --> 01:25:24.239 a Jesse the body governor Ventura hi JP. Oh shit. 1680 01:25:24.600 --> 01:25:29.399 He asked me the question, did do I remember Sid Vicious? 1681 01:25:30.119 --> 01:25:32.840 I do remember Sid Vicious? But do I remember him 1682 01:25:34.000 --> 01:25:37.800 putting peanut butter and jelly into his headshots and rolling 1683 01:25:37.880 --> 01:25:40.359 them up and giving him to the homeless or you 1684 01:25:40.479 --> 01:25:46.039 know something I don't. I don't recall that. I wouldn't 1685 01:25:46.039 --> 01:25:48.159 put it past him to put to be honest about it, 1686 01:25:48.960 --> 01:25:50.680 But you know what I do think? 1687 01:25:50.920 --> 01:25:51.039 Uh? 1688 01:25:51.760 --> 01:25:54.560 I think uh? I think headcheladas are very good. 1689 01:25:58.239 --> 01:26:03.119 I guess this guy Sid has incredible anxiety at the 1690 01:26:03.199 --> 01:26:04.520 thought of overstock. 1691 01:26:06.680 --> 01:26:10.680 Do you know what I mean? It's like because you know, 1692 01:26:10.880 --> 01:26:16.279 you know, he spends he spends like all summer long. Okay, 1693 01:26:17.359 --> 01:26:21.479 he spends all summer long, working so hard to make 1694 01:26:21.640 --> 01:26:27.840 sure that his garage is empty for the fall and 1695 01:26:27.920 --> 01:26:31.560 winter seasons. All right, Like that is it? And if 1696 01:26:31.560 --> 01:26:36.600 he has overstock, it means it means clutter. In the 1697 01:26:36.680 --> 01:26:40.199 garage and we may and he may not be able 1698 01:26:40.239 --> 01:26:43.640 to park both cars, and that is just you know, 1699 01:26:43.760 --> 01:26:44.680 it's unacceptable. 1700 01:26:44.760 --> 01:26:47.479 No wonder Frank gets so much heat for the undistributed viennas. 1701 01:26:47.479 --> 01:26:49.119 I mean, we're talking like square footage here that. 1702 01:26:49.239 --> 01:26:50.319 Used to be exactly. 1703 01:26:50.560 --> 01:26:52.720 I paid top dollar for this square footage. And because 1704 01:26:52.760 --> 01:26:56.479 of your lazy ass, your big brothers film and lazy ass, 1705 01:26:57.600 --> 01:27:00.239 I can't I can't park the escalade. 1706 01:27:03.279 --> 01:27:06.399 Frank, how do you think I'm supposed to bark the 1707 01:27:06.560 --> 01:27:08.880 accord in this garage? Frank? 1708 01:27:09.000 --> 01:27:11.840 Let me, Frank, Frank, vienna is in there. Frank, before 1709 01:27:11.880 --> 01:27:14.239 you say another word, I need you to recite to 1710 01:27:14.319 --> 01:27:17.439 me the full menu of what's of what's available at 1711 01:27:17.439 --> 01:27:18.279 the pop top at the church. 1712 01:27:18.359 --> 01:27:20.720 Go ahead, what do we have? I know we got viennas, 1713 01:27:20.760 --> 01:27:21.399 but what else do we have? 1714 01:27:22.960 --> 01:27:23.239 Say it? 1715 01:27:23.960 --> 01:27:24.960 Do we have package crackers? 1716 01:27:25.359 --> 01:27:25.600 Frank? 1717 01:27:25.640 --> 01:27:30.079 Do we have crackers? Frank? Do we have peanut butter 1718 01:27:30.159 --> 01:27:36.600 and jelly? Ahead? You lott us, Well, you know we don't. 1719 01:27:36.760 --> 01:27:39.159 I'll tell you, Sean. You know, we don't do it big. 1720 01:27:39.319 --> 01:27:41.000 We don't go over the top. All we get is 1721 01:27:41.000 --> 01:27:45.439 a canavyan of sausages, package crackers, ball water, a moon 1722 01:27:45.520 --> 01:27:48.199 pile or a little Debby cake and peanut butter and 1723 01:27:48.279 --> 01:27:50.159 jelly smothering in one of my pie tens. And it's 1724 01:27:50.199 --> 01:27:58.600 really he tries to tries to sneaking in there and 1725 01:27:58.680 --> 01:28:01.479 move on, like he has no choice but to disclose it, 1726 01:28:01.800 --> 01:28:05.880 like like why is he even telling this whole thing? Like, 1727 01:28:06.279 --> 01:28:08.520 you know, the whole thing. No one would know, no 1728 01:28:08.560 --> 01:28:11.239 one needs to know, you know, but he feels the 1729 01:28:11.359 --> 01:28:14.960 need to disclose this information. I can smell it already. 1730 01:28:15.000 --> 01:28:15.880 Do you know what that is? Boss? 1731 01:28:15.920 --> 01:28:18.800 You know what I can smell? What a package arriving 1732 01:28:18.840 --> 01:28:20.479 at the bo box? It smells like peanut butter. 1733 01:28:20.680 --> 01:28:26.039 Oh my god, fucking a headshot. Oh yeah, fuck, it's 1734 01:28:26.079 --> 01:28:29.279 a it's a publicity. Still a fucking of sid with 1735 01:28:29.800 --> 01:28:31.000 peanut butter and jelly. 1736 01:28:32.760 --> 01:28:35.960 That's all I'm saying. Lash and I book a right. 1737 01:28:36.039 --> 01:28:38.279 Were in awe as he introduced us to everybody we passed. 1738 01:28:38.439 --> 01:28:40.199 As we got our workout in. I saw guys like 1739 01:28:40.239 --> 01:28:42.680 Big Papa Pump, Scott Scott Steiner doing three hundred and 1740 01:28:42.720 --> 01:28:45.640 fifteen pounds behind the neck presses. Lord Stephen Wriegel later 1741 01:28:45.680 --> 01:28:49.560 began William Regalan and the Wwe stared at me. Brigel 1742 01:28:49.600 --> 01:28:51.239 was a talented wrestler who began his career at the 1743 01:28:51.279 --> 01:28:53.399 age of fifteen, and he was clearly aware we were 1744 01:28:53.479 --> 01:28:56.960 Sid's boys and his eyes, we were probably being expressed, 1745 01:28:57.000 --> 01:28:59.840 driven into one of the coveted WCW spots. Maybe his 1746 01:29:00.159 --> 01:29:03.560 is ooh nice hmm. There was no mistaking it. I 1747 01:29:03.720 --> 01:29:06.199 was no longer in the bush league. These boys were 1748 01:29:06.199 --> 01:29:08.439 from the big stage. I'd always dreamed of walking on too. 1749 01:29:08.720 --> 01:29:10.760 I hoped I could earn their respect and a place 1750 01:29:10.800 --> 01:29:12.960 among them in the ring. Now that Lash and I 1751 01:29:13.159 --> 01:29:14.920 had a place to stay in a gym to work 1752 01:29:14.960 --> 01:29:17.079 out in, we needed not only one more We only 1753 01:29:17.159 --> 01:29:20.319 needed one more thing. Our first contracts and creative direction. 1754 01:29:20.880 --> 01:29:22.760 The show was about to begin, but not before a 1755 01:29:22.840 --> 01:29:26.239 lesson in professional wrestling contract negotiations. Sid drove us to 1756 01:29:26.279 --> 01:29:29.359 the W'W headquarters. That's something that's something to envision. YEP 1757 01:29:30.359 --> 01:29:32.520 stationed to Ted Turner, Seene and Center in Meridiath Street 1758 01:29:32.520 --> 01:29:34.439 in the heart of Atlanta. Sid, Lash and I were 1759 01:29:34.520 --> 01:29:36.840 escorted into an office where we met Olie Anderson, the 1760 01:29:36.880 --> 01:29:39.520 original rock of professional wrestling and part of the legendary 1761 01:29:39.560 --> 01:29:42.319 Minnesota Wrecking Crew. With Gen Anderson and then later Arn Anderson, 1762 01:29:42.600 --> 01:29:43.239 Oh my god. 1763 01:29:43.159 --> 01:29:43.479 I can't. 1764 01:29:43.600 --> 01:29:45.880 I cannot stand it when they have to fucking feel 1765 01:29:45.920 --> 01:29:48.800 the need to explain shit and talk and explain people 1766 01:29:49.000 --> 01:29:52.159 the full rundown. That's to show that they're students of 1767 01:29:52.199 --> 01:29:55.720 the game. Oldi was retired and basically in charge of 1768 01:29:55.760 --> 01:29:57.960 the entire company after cowboy Bill Watts had been ousted 1769 01:29:58.039 --> 01:30:00.560 from the position. Oldi had a solid crusher handshake and 1770 01:30:00.640 --> 01:30:02.680 got right down to business as Sid oversaw the process 1771 01:30:02.800 --> 01:30:07.560 from the corner. Sid stands in the corner, of course, 1772 01:30:07.600 --> 01:30:10.039 she does Harlem heat sit across the desk from Oly Anderson. 1773 01:30:10.319 --> 01:30:13.000 Ye boys, be gruffed. We're going to start yeaut with 1774 01:30:13.079 --> 01:30:15.960 a three year contracts at seventy thousand dollars, with the 1775 01:30:16.039 --> 01:30:18.560 incentive to make as much as you can draw. Sky's 1776 01:30:18.560 --> 01:30:21.039 the limit. If you do well, you'll climb the ladder. 1777 01:30:21.159 --> 01:30:23.000 If you don't, you're going back to Texas the same 1778 01:30:23.039 --> 01:30:25.960 way you got yourselves here. That's a fucking ollie line. 1779 01:30:26.760 --> 01:30:28.680 Last night I looked at each other. Seventy grand was 1780 01:30:28.760 --> 01:30:31.119 more than both of us had seen combined till that day. 1781 01:30:31.479 --> 01:30:34.439 We were used to ten dollars nights. The moment was 1782 01:30:34.520 --> 01:30:37.159 frozen in time. Now we were sitting in an office 1783 01:30:37.199 --> 01:30:39.760 with Sid and only Anderson, signing our first contracts to 1784 01:30:39.800 --> 01:30:42.600 work with the major international company. Was this really happening 1785 01:30:42.640 --> 01:30:44.600 in the same room where many of the greats Harley Race, 1786 01:30:44.880 --> 01:30:47.079 the Brigantream, Dusty Roads, and the h Borwick Flair got 1787 01:30:47.119 --> 01:30:48.800 their start. No, it wasn't, Booker. I don't know what 1788 01:30:48.800 --> 01:30:51.239 you're talking about. And they didn't have their start in 1789 01:30:51.279 --> 01:30:51.840 this office. 1790 01:30:52.560 --> 01:30:56.199 What do you mean the place the same room? 1791 01:30:56.680 --> 01:30:56.720 What? 1792 01:30:57.359 --> 01:30:59.920 When we left Olie's office, Sid clarified the contractor. 1793 01:31:00.159 --> 01:31:00.800 I'm sure he did. 1794 01:31:02.199 --> 01:31:05.640 You'll always check everything up front, guys. You'll get monthly raises, 1795 01:31:05.680 --> 01:31:07.720 and before you know it, you'll be making ninety thousand, 1796 01:31:08.239 --> 01:31:10.640 then one hundred thousand a year. It's all trial and error. 1797 01:31:10.680 --> 01:31:13.640 As you'll see, you'll get paid what you're worth. Big 1798 01:31:13.720 --> 01:31:15.840 Sid was a brilliant mentor you or. 1799 01:31:15.840 --> 01:31:17.319 You'll get paid what I think you're worth. 1800 01:31:18.840 --> 01:31:21.279 Guys, I know that only just promised seventy thousand in there. 1801 01:31:21.960 --> 01:31:25.039 But I'm here to tell you this. What's he here 1802 01:31:25.079 --> 01:31:25.479 to tell them? 1803 01:31:25.520 --> 01:31:28.680 Boss? I'm here to tell you something about how it 1804 01:31:28.840 --> 01:31:32.479 is to make money. Right now, making money sounds like 1805 01:31:32.560 --> 01:31:35.479 it's a good thing. All around. I won't tell you, 1806 01:31:36.359 --> 01:31:37.760 and I want you to look to me dead in 1807 01:31:37.840 --> 01:31:43.319 the eye. I want you to understand that you are 1808 01:31:43.479 --> 01:31:47.600 not just worth what you get paid. You're worth it. 1809 01:31:47.800 --> 01:31:50.119 That is such a sad thing to say. I'm sitting 1810 01:31:50.199 --> 01:31:52.840 here scratching my head because he would say things like that, 1811 01:31:53.000 --> 01:31:55.039 you are not just worth what you're getting paid. 1812 01:31:58.000 --> 01:32:00.800 You're worth what you are up here in your head, 1813 01:32:01.800 --> 01:32:08.239 been in your heart. So if you desire things, make 1814 01:32:08.279 --> 01:32:11.319 sure you're worth it up here and down here. 1815 01:32:13.960 --> 01:32:18.039 If okay, hold on, if you desire things, make sure 1816 01:32:18.239 --> 01:32:23.439 you're worth it up here and down here. That sounds 1817 01:32:23.439 --> 01:32:25.039 like the kind of thing he would say on Nitro 1818 01:32:25.239 --> 01:32:29.199 and then blame Vince Russo for scripting, even though no 1819 01:32:29.279 --> 01:32:32.479 one could script that absurdity. But he would say, and 1820 01:32:32.520 --> 01:32:35.800 it would make sense to him, absolutely it would. He 1821 01:32:35.880 --> 01:32:37.960 knew exactly what he wanted and how to obtain it. 1822 01:32:38.000 --> 01:32:39.960 Booker says of Sid he was a huge draw in 1823 01:32:40.039 --> 01:32:43.039 the ring, which was the way to gain an audience backstage. 1824 01:32:44.319 --> 01:32:46.039 No, he wasn't, He really wasn't. I mean, how many 1825 01:32:46.079 --> 01:32:47.760 times you have to go over this. I don't understand, 1826 01:32:47.800 --> 01:32:49.920 and people are weird when when it turns in terms 1827 01:32:50.000 --> 01:32:51.600 of like what they think of a draw. 1828 01:32:52.159 --> 01:32:54.319 He's in ww and no one's showing up. When he 1829 01:32:54.399 --> 01:32:57.600 was in WCW before the Hogan program, in WWF, no 1830 01:32:57.640 --> 01:32:59.800 one was showing up. I mean, what show were you 1831 01:32:59.800 --> 01:33:01.199 talking talking about? WrestleMania eight? 1832 01:33:01.520 --> 01:33:03.439 But no, what's the huge draw? 1833 01:33:03.720 --> 01:33:06.199 And rest mean, it was a big show. But what 1834 01:33:06.319 --> 01:33:09.119 are you pointing to empirically that says Sid put more 1835 01:33:09.119 --> 01:33:10.680 people in the seats than would have been there if 1836 01:33:10.680 --> 01:33:14.000 he wasn't there. Namely one show up to this point 1837 01:33:14.039 --> 01:33:16.279 in his career that you can say that about. I mean, 1838 01:33:16.319 --> 01:33:17.760 do you really think the who you're done would have 1839 01:33:17.760 --> 01:33:19.720 ten thousand less people if Sid wasn't in the main event? 1840 01:33:19.840 --> 01:33:22.039 Not at all, and Rick Flair was or somebody else. 1841 01:33:22.079 --> 01:33:24.399 Give me a break. I'm not trying to take anything 1842 01:33:24.399 --> 01:33:26.079 away from the guy. He really rose to the occasion 1843 01:33:26.159 --> 01:33:27.960 and he fit, did he? When he walked out there 1844 01:33:27.960 --> 01:33:30.640 in Indianapolis, as we talked about, he he looked the 1845 01:33:30.720 --> 01:33:34.560 part he belonged there. Yeah, not questioning that, but the 1846 01:33:34.640 --> 01:33:37.039 fact that like people who like him have to pretend 1847 01:33:37.079 --> 01:33:40.600 he was also a draw in addition to making ridiculous 1848 01:33:40.600 --> 01:33:42.439 amounts of money. It's kind of foolish. It's like, no, 1849 01:33:43.119 --> 01:33:45.880 you call Sid when you're fucking tough shape. That's the 1850 01:33:45.920 --> 01:33:48.960 story of his career. He shows up when you're fucked 1851 01:33:49.319 --> 01:33:55.079 from you know, the rudderless Jim Herd WCW to a 1852 01:33:55.239 --> 01:33:58.439 WWF that's about to lose Hulk Hogan and is just 1853 01:33:58.600 --> 01:34:01.279 watching all the returns dissipate that they used to rely 1854 01:34:01.399 --> 01:34:03.319 on Hogan as a cash cow to generate and a 1855 01:34:03.359 --> 01:34:08.000 failed Ultimate Warrior experiment. He comes in to WCW again 1856 01:34:08.039 --> 01:34:10.960 when they're absolutely on their ass with no leadership, an 1857 01:34:10.960 --> 01:34:14.239 absolute vacuum of leadership. The lowest attendants and lowest pay 1858 01:34:14.239 --> 01:34:16.119 per view buys they ever did was in nineteen ninety three. 1859 01:34:16.159 --> 01:34:18.680 Anyone will tell you that. And then he comes back 1860 01:34:18.680 --> 01:34:21.279 to WWF when they're fucking on their ass post steroid 1861 01:34:21.399 --> 01:34:24.399 trial with not a pot to piss in and nitro 1862 01:34:24.520 --> 01:34:27.079 is starting to breathe down their neck a bit and 1863 01:34:27.159 --> 01:34:28.840 they don't know what to do and they have the 1864 01:34:28.880 --> 01:34:31.560 drug test aggressively. So they lost the big bodies and 1865 01:34:31.640 --> 01:34:33.520 Sid was like someone they could plug in there that 1866 01:34:33.560 --> 01:34:36.079 had a big body. They brought him in in ninety 1867 01:34:36.119 --> 01:34:39.039 six again when nWo was fucking wiping the floor with him, 1868 01:34:39.039 --> 01:34:43.479 and they couldn't do anything to recover as the Holland 1869 01:34:43.520 --> 01:34:46.039 Nash things started to take over and the Hogan Hill 1870 01:34:46.079 --> 01:34:48.399 turn set in. They brought him in a little bit 1871 01:34:48.479 --> 01:34:52.760 before that, but WCW is definitely the hot shit at 1872 01:34:52.800 --> 01:34:55.039 the time, not WWF when he came back in ninety six, 1873 01:34:55.640 --> 01:34:58.640 and then he sticks around through the most desperate period 1874 01:34:58.680 --> 01:35:01.119 of WWF ever where they just doing great stuff but 1875 01:35:01.279 --> 01:35:04.199 no one cares. Yep, no one's watching. They're not winning 1876 01:35:04.239 --> 01:35:07.079 the ratings war. And then when Sid leaves, they start 1877 01:35:07.119 --> 01:35:11.520 winning right, and he goes w c W when they're 1878 01:35:11.880 --> 01:35:16.199 absolutely circling the drain again and they can't find any 1879 01:35:16.279 --> 01:35:18.119 way to make any money. But they signed Sid to 1880 01:35:18.159 --> 01:35:20.560 a huge deal anyway, and he rides that thing all 1881 01:35:20.600 --> 01:35:23.600 the way literally into the fucking ground. And the closer 1882 01:35:23.640 --> 01:35:25.239 he gets to the top of the card, the bigger 1883 01:35:25.319 --> 01:35:28.560 the fucking red ink is over there. And not to 1884 01:35:28.640 --> 01:35:31.840 blame him, but it's coincidence. He's certainly certainly not drawing 1885 01:35:31.920 --> 01:35:33.119 in the conventional sense. 1886 01:35:34.119 --> 01:35:36.039 What are we talking about him? Mean, that's just it 1887 01:35:36.239 --> 01:35:39.039 like he's always in the in in each company when 1888 01:35:39.079 --> 01:35:39.760 they're in the bad. 1889 01:35:40.119 --> 01:35:42.520 Yes, he's a value you call when you don't know 1890 01:35:42.560 --> 01:35:44.680 what else to do, and that's a good spot to have. 1891 01:35:44.840 --> 01:35:47.960 But a draw that is not It's a lap fan 1892 01:35:48.119 --> 01:36:09.680 wrestling podcast. He's an lapsed fan wrestling podcast with Jack. 1893 01:36:09.760 --> 01:36:14.039 And he's always he's always Sids, always in the position 1894 01:36:14.079 --> 01:36:15.479 to be like, imagine how much worse it would be 1895 01:36:15.479 --> 01:36:17.800 if I wasn't here, Well, Sid, it probably wouldn't. 1896 01:36:18.039 --> 01:36:19.680 It wouldn't be much worse. It'd be about the same. 1897 01:36:19.920 --> 01:36:22.520 I think he's always like, see, this is the thing. 1898 01:36:22.720 --> 01:36:25.560 I feel like he's always He always comes in in 1899 01:36:25.600 --> 01:36:30.279 a time where he can make an intriguing matchup for 1900 01:36:30.399 --> 01:36:35.479 somebody else. Nobody's curious about. No one wants to see 1901 01:36:35.560 --> 01:36:38.720 Sid face somebody. They want to see somebody face Sid. 1902 01:36:38.840 --> 01:36:39.439 Ain't that the truth? 1903 01:36:39.479 --> 01:36:41.600 When he talks about getting the Hogan spot in WWF, 1904 01:36:41.720 --> 01:36:43.920 When he talks about taking the title of Vader at 1905 01:36:43.920 --> 01:36:45.560 Star K ninety three, I sit there and I think 1906 01:36:45.600 --> 01:36:49.880 to myself, that would fucking be terrible, Like Sid running 1907 01:36:49.920 --> 01:36:51.640 with the belt like that and pretending to be like 1908 01:36:51.760 --> 01:36:54.199 the cash cow of the whole organization. That wouldn't last 1909 01:36:54.239 --> 01:36:58.600 more than two months. Right, That's not Sid's role. No, 1910 01:36:59.159 --> 01:37:02.479 Sid is Sid is the opponent sid is the opponent. 1911 01:37:02.560 --> 01:37:06.439 That's where he is intriguing, not as the guy, not 1912 01:37:06.560 --> 01:37:08.800 as the guy, right, you know he is. 1913 01:37:09.000 --> 01:37:10.399 He is the the the. 1914 01:37:12.000 --> 01:37:15.479 Opponent the guy faces, absolutely right. And yes he will. 1915 01:37:16.000 --> 01:37:18.319 He will have a charisma and he will draw in 1916 01:37:18.399 --> 01:37:20.600 an audience like the people who are already there, like 1917 01:37:20.760 --> 01:37:22.960 like few others with just a turn of the head. 1918 01:37:22.960 --> 01:37:26.159 And that's a great credit to him. But him being 1919 01:37:26.279 --> 01:37:27.880 the guy is just not going to work, I mean, 1920 01:37:27.960 --> 01:37:30.399 and that's what's so captive about the time period We're 1921 01:37:30.399 --> 01:37:32.319 going to spend the most time detailing later in the 1922 01:37:32.359 --> 01:37:34.640 tribute when he actually beats Michaels for the belt in 1923 01:37:34.680 --> 01:37:36.720 ninety six and has that run where you can kind 1924 01:37:36.760 --> 01:37:38.960 of say he's the top guy, but he's not. I mean, 1925 01:37:39.359 --> 01:37:41.800 you go back and examine the TV between him winning 1926 01:37:41.840 --> 01:37:44.560 at Survivor Series ninety six and then winning it back 1927 01:37:44.840 --> 01:37:46.600 the night after a Final four, and it's like he's 1928 01:37:46.840 --> 01:37:49.560 he's an afterthought even as the champion. For God's sake, Yeah, yeah, 1929 01:37:49.720 --> 01:37:51.760 to Brett and Sean and whatever they've got going on, 1930 01:37:51.880 --> 01:37:54.520 and to some extent, Undertaker and Steve Austin. It's just 1931 01:37:54.600 --> 01:37:56.840 like the story of his life, even when he's the 1932 01:37:56.840 --> 01:37:59.640 world champion. He's not a draw, you know. 1933 01:37:59.720 --> 01:38:02.199 I mean he's like he is the epitome of like 1934 01:38:02.279 --> 01:38:03.319 a lame duck champion. 1935 01:38:03.520 --> 01:38:07.399 Yeah, Wresselmenia thirteen the fucking most pathetic WrestleMania ever from 1936 01:38:07.399 --> 01:38:10.960 a business standpoint, that's his big fucking claim. Yet he's 1937 01:38:10.960 --> 01:38:13.199 a draw because he headlined con Centertaker and no one 1938 01:38:13.279 --> 01:38:15.039 bought the show and no one gave a shit. You know, 1939 01:38:16.039 --> 01:38:20.399 it's crazy, but here we are, so Booker oblies to 1940 01:38:20.399 --> 01:38:22.199 say he was a huge draw in the ring, which 1941 01:38:22.279 --> 01:38:23.880 was the way to gain an audience backstage with the 1942 01:38:23.920 --> 01:38:25.800 ones in the business who mattered. We have him to 1943 01:38:25.880 --> 01:38:28.359 thank for delivering everything he said he would. All we'd 1944 01:38:28.399 --> 01:38:30.680 needed was a shot and professional wrestling. That's more than 1945 01:38:30.720 --> 01:38:32.600 you usually get. He even gave me my first pair 1946 01:38:32.640 --> 01:38:34.479 of wrestling boots, the tall black type he's known for, 1947 01:38:34.800 --> 01:38:37.479 which I still have today. With the ink drawing on 1948 01:38:37.560 --> 01:38:39.520 the contracts in our hands, the next order of business 1949 01:38:39.600 --> 01:38:41.279 was to sit down with Creative and learn what they 1950 01:38:41.359 --> 01:38:43.840 had for us. Sid walked us around and introduced us 1951 01:38:43.880 --> 01:38:45.960 to the good old boys. We met Dusty Rhodes, the 1952 01:38:45.960 --> 01:38:49.359 figurehead of storylines, writing and booking matches, back then, there 1953 01:38:49.439 --> 01:38:51.720 was no actual creative writers as there would be in 1954 01:38:51.760 --> 01:38:54.439 the near future. At that time, the veterans of the game, 1955 01:38:54.520 --> 01:38:56.399 the proven leaders in and out of the ring, were 1956 01:38:56.439 --> 01:38:59.600 in charge, and there was none more established than Dusty. 1957 01:39:00.359 --> 01:39:03.199 Following his lead was an impressive team of guys, including 1958 01:39:03.239 --> 01:39:05.720 the late Mike Graham, an anointed one in the business 1959 01:39:05.760 --> 01:39:07.720 who came from the lineage of his father Eddie Graham, 1960 01:39:07.760 --> 01:39:11.760 A long time successful promoter and performer with Laura Champiship Wrestling, 1961 01:39:12.119 --> 01:39:14.399 Mike was a go to guy for character development and instructions. 1962 01:39:14.439 --> 01:39:16.279 We heard from Mike last time on the tribute show 1963 01:39:17.079 --> 01:39:21.960 Yes recounting the Sid Squeegee incident. There was also Greg 1964 01:39:22.039 --> 01:39:26.720 Gania greg Gania's office at this time, a one time 1965 01:39:26.800 --> 01:39:29.720 top performer Yeah Okay for the now defunct American Wrestling 1966 01:39:29.720 --> 01:39:31.159 Association ABA. 1967 01:39:31.119 --> 01:39:33.720 My God, What the fuck top Performer, which had. 1968 01:39:33.640 --> 01:39:35.319 Been one of the Big three organizations along with the 1969 01:39:35.359 --> 01:39:37.880 World Wrestling Federation and the National Wrestling Alliance and was 1970 01:39:37.920 --> 01:39:40.800 owned and promoted by his father, Vern Gania. Greg insured 1971 01:39:40.840 --> 01:39:43.479 the guys knew the direction of their performances that masonly 1972 01:39:43.560 --> 01:39:46.520 mende He walked around and gave them the finishes Lash 1973 01:39:46.520 --> 01:39:48.520 and I were fresh from Global in Dallas, where we'd 1974 01:39:48.600 --> 01:39:50.760 enjoyed a loyal following. Is Booker T and Stevie Ray 1975 01:39:50.840 --> 01:39:53.439 the Ebony Experience. We'd had a creative input there, but 1976 01:39:53.520 --> 01:39:55.159 here at the table, I recognized it was time to 1977 01:39:55.199 --> 01:39:57.399 be a listener and nothing more. I knew nothing and 1978 01:39:57.520 --> 01:40:00.159 was prepared for anything they had in store. Well, at 1979 01:40:00.199 --> 01:40:02.039 least I thought I was. We were in the presence 1980 01:40:02.079 --> 01:40:04.479 of a well established Southern good old boy mentality. He 1981 01:40:04.560 --> 01:40:06.079 keeps saying that over and over again. I think I 1982 01:40:06.199 --> 01:40:07.880 know what he means by good old boy, but I 1983 01:40:07.920 --> 01:40:10.920 won't say it. And the train of thought for the 1984 01:40:10.960 --> 01:40:14.319 directing of our careers was well interesting. We're going to 1985 01:40:14.439 --> 01:40:17.880 change your names to Caine, Mike pointed at Lash and Cole. 1986 01:40:18.159 --> 01:40:22.039 He indicated me better known as shy Town Heat Build 1987 01:40:22.079 --> 01:40:25.079 from Chicago. Your story is that you've just been released 1988 01:40:25.159 --> 01:40:29.600 from prison. You'll wear chains and shackles and jumpsuits into 1989 01:40:29.680 --> 01:40:33.560 the ring. We think it'll get everyone's attention. Jesus Christ, 1990 01:40:33.760 --> 01:40:36.119 that was an understatement. I couldn't help but wonder if 1991 01:40:36.159 --> 01:40:38.600 they were ribbing me about my time in prison. Booker 1992 01:40:38.640 --> 01:40:41.159 writes over a decade before. But then the stark reality 1993 01:40:41.319 --> 01:40:43.600 sank in and an uneasy feeling washed over me. Yeah, 1994 01:40:43.720 --> 01:40:46.439 you can scratch that one out, because someone brought that 1995 01:40:46.560 --> 01:40:48.319 up to sit on a shoot interview years later in 1996 01:40:48.399 --> 01:40:50.359 the twenty tens, and he was like, I had no 1997 01:40:50.439 --> 01:40:52.920 idea Booker was ever in prison. So so much for 1998 01:40:53.000 --> 01:40:55.840 sid architecting a notion here of playing off of that, 1999 01:40:57.600 --> 01:40:59.760 But then the stark reality set in the whole idea 2000 01:40:59.840 --> 01:41:02.199 was a big red flag. My instinct was to object 2001 01:41:02.319 --> 01:41:04.760 until I remember the advice of my mother Junior, no 2002 01:41:04.880 --> 01:41:07.239 one to speak up and when to shut up. Mike said, 2003 01:41:07.239 --> 01:41:09.319 we're gonna pair you up with Robert Fuller, who'll be 2004 01:41:09.359 --> 01:41:15.239 your manager slash master known as Colonel Parker. Why known 2005 01:41:15.239 --> 01:41:18.520 as Colonel Parker? A plantation owner? You see that a 2006 01:41:18.600 --> 01:41:21.520 former plantation owner. See that's the problem. It's it's not 2007 01:41:22.039 --> 01:41:24.239 as much what they're wearing, that they have chains on, 2008 01:41:24.439 --> 01:41:26.800 that they're released from prisondents, that Parker is the one 2009 01:41:28.199 --> 01:41:32.039 cattling them around, right, It's that he's a you know, right, 2010 01:41:32.159 --> 01:41:35.680 plantation owner. I mean, come on, guys, I was waiting. 2011 01:41:35.840 --> 01:41:37.479 I know he's supposed to be the Colonel Parker, the 2012 01:41:37.560 --> 01:41:40.800 promoter of Elvis. I know that that's what they were 2013 01:41:40.840 --> 01:41:43.680 going for. But there's baggage there. There's baggage there that 2014 01:41:43.720 --> 01:41:46.279 you have to that's not okay. Work hard to not see. 2015 01:41:46.520 --> 01:41:48.239 I was waiting for them to ask us to shuck 2016 01:41:48.279 --> 01:41:49.319 and johive book of Rights. 2017 01:41:49.399 --> 01:41:49.720 No shit. 2018 01:41:50.039 --> 01:41:52.119 As insane as it all seemed, the reality was that 2019 01:41:52.199 --> 01:41:54.520 they thought this was a solid plan. This was the 2020 01:41:54.600 --> 01:41:56.880 kind of racial obstacle Oxy Baker had warned me about 2021 01:41:56.880 --> 01:41:59.399 back in the WWA. But he'd said, when someone draws 2022 01:41:59.439 --> 01:42:01.920 and makes money, all the bullshit goes away. If I 2023 01:42:01.960 --> 01:42:04.479 had to go around, under or straight through these barriers, 2024 01:42:04.520 --> 01:42:08.600 Booker Rights rest assured I was going straight through. So 2025 01:42:08.680 --> 01:42:10.640 let's have Sid have his say about what he had 2026 01:42:10.680 --> 01:42:15.039 in mind as the new creative fucking Shakespeare over at 2027 01:42:15.199 --> 01:42:18.319 WCW bringing in Harlem Heat with this, with this idea. 2028 01:42:18.840 --> 01:42:20.359 This is from one of his shoot interviews. 2029 01:42:21.000 --> 01:42:22.720 Oh no'bill asked me to be a part of the 2030 01:42:22.760 --> 01:42:25.720 booking committee. So yeah, so I was. 2031 01:42:26.079 --> 01:42:28.119 You know, I was fait as much time as I 2032 01:42:28.199 --> 01:42:30.760 could in the office and would come up with ideas. 2033 01:42:30.800 --> 01:42:34.880 Actually that's how I got Cron Parker and the Harlem 2034 01:42:34.960 --> 01:42:35.520 Heat hired. 2035 01:42:37.800 --> 01:42:40.800 Yeah, let's not forget he also brought in Parker. He 2036 01:42:40.880 --> 01:42:43.840 didn't just bring in Booker. This goes back to him 2037 01:42:43.880 --> 01:42:46.199 working for Continental when Fuller was the booker there in 2038 01:42:46.239 --> 01:42:49.319 Alabama and Sid worked there as Lord Humongous and got 2039 01:42:49.319 --> 01:42:51.560 a pretty good push, and also where he met Bruno 2040 01:42:51.680 --> 01:42:54.399 Lauer the future down to Bruno Slash. 2041 01:42:54.920 --> 01:42:59.399 Harvey Whippleman portrayed Deck those characters in front of only 2042 01:43:00.039 --> 01:43:04.000 Dusky and Jim Barnett, and then Jim Barnett and Dusually. 2043 01:43:04.359 --> 01:43:07.920 I think the holy Their concerns were that if Robert 2044 01:43:08.000 --> 01:43:09.880 you do the character as well as I was doing that. 2045 01:43:10.840 --> 01:43:13.840 Right, that was their original game. They were cool and something, 2046 01:43:14.199 --> 01:43:16.800 and they came out and changed right, and he was like. 2047 01:43:19.000 --> 01:43:22.279 It was similar. Well, this is what the whole idea was. 2048 01:43:22.359 --> 01:43:26.600 That Colonel Parker was supposed to be. You know, this 2049 01:43:26.680 --> 01:43:30.119 is a big flamboyant person, and how he got with 2050 01:43:30.239 --> 01:43:32.880 the Harlem heat was at you know, at that particular time, 2051 01:43:33.000 --> 01:43:35.920 the governor of Louisiana was a big time gambler. 2052 01:43:36.039 --> 01:43:38.560 This is a real shoot and he always owed a 2053 01:43:38.600 --> 01:43:41.079 lot of money, you know a lot of different things. 2054 01:43:41.159 --> 01:43:43.039 He lost a lot of money and horse race and 2055 01:43:43.079 --> 01:43:43.520 stuff like that. 2056 01:43:43.760 --> 01:43:46.039 So we came up well, I came up a little 2057 01:43:46.079 --> 01:43:50.119 story that you know, during a beat that he lost 2058 01:43:50.159 --> 01:43:52.399 a lot of money to Colonel Parker, and Colonel Parker 2059 01:43:52.720 --> 01:43:55.720 instead of warning the money says, you know, hey, I've 2060 01:43:55.920 --> 01:43:58.560 proved myself being the greatest manager in wrestling because I 2061 01:43:58.640 --> 01:44:00.520 brought said dishes in. But I wouldn't for there was 2062 01:44:00.800 --> 01:44:03.399 two people that were nobody's so when two people off 2063 01:44:03.520 --> 01:44:04.520 death row, and. 2064 01:44:04.560 --> 01:44:06.439 That's why we brought it the end in like the 2065 01:44:06.600 --> 01:44:09.159 Gene shirts and the Gene pants and they had those 2066 01:44:09.239 --> 01:44:09.680 numbers on. 2067 01:44:09.680 --> 01:44:11.880 Them like they were kind of just coming out of prison. 2068 01:44:12.279 --> 01:44:16.600 And the thing about CD, he actually had some really 2069 01:44:16.680 --> 01:44:19.880 bad scars on his back on the shoulder, and I 2070 01:44:19.960 --> 01:44:22.319 wanted to use that to our advantage and said that 2071 01:44:22.880 --> 01:44:25.800 that's where you know during prison that the man beat 2072 01:44:25.920 --> 01:44:28.119 him man being the guy in charge. 2073 01:44:28.800 --> 01:44:31.600 And that was the whole reason that Booker was in 2074 01:44:31.720 --> 01:44:35.800 prison for real, right at one point was he he 2075 01:44:35.840 --> 01:44:37.600 could have been I didn't know that he urged his 2076 01:44:37.720 --> 01:44:40.760 life around and that was a huge humanitarian. Yeah, I 2077 01:44:40.840 --> 01:44:41.279 didn't know that. 2078 01:44:41.760 --> 01:44:43.600 But the main thing was this is that you know, 2079 01:44:43.720 --> 01:44:46.640 cdium really looked at him. And this is things too. 2080 01:44:46.960 --> 01:44:49.840 I had was being taught this in the businesses, you know, 2081 01:44:49.920 --> 01:44:53.159 we didn't have real know they'd have a strap mash, 2082 01:44:53.640 --> 01:44:56.039 usually to get out of a angle or something like that. 2083 01:44:56.159 --> 01:44:58.840 So I said, what was it? You start strap match 2084 01:44:58.920 --> 01:44:59.560 from the beginning. 2085 01:44:59.840 --> 01:45:02.000 And these two guys, you know, had been in jail 2086 01:45:02.079 --> 01:45:04.359 for the last you know how many years being strapped 2087 01:45:04.359 --> 01:45:06.600 by the man. Now they're gonna get the revenge on 2088 01:45:06.720 --> 01:45:09.359 the man. They're gonna strap everybody they see. I mean, 2089 01:45:09.760 --> 01:45:12.039 what happened is that they were trapping other people. And 2090 01:45:12.479 --> 01:45:14.279 you know, working in the w c W at that 2091 01:45:14.359 --> 01:45:17.319 particular time, you know Sinner's being you know, one of 2092 01:45:17.359 --> 01:45:18.119 the top ten teams. 2093 01:45:18.119 --> 01:45:19.840 You're going to work with them, with the Road Warriors 2094 01:45:19.960 --> 01:45:20.720 or somebody like that. 2095 01:45:21.199 --> 01:45:23.520 So at least when you got to a point like that, 2096 01:45:23.680 --> 01:45:25.840 you could have a real gimmick match, because these guys 2097 01:45:25.880 --> 01:45:28.119 had been trapping people for some time. 2098 01:45:28.600 --> 01:45:31.439 But Dusty didn't like. 2099 01:45:31.479 --> 01:45:34.920 It because I wasn't his idea from understanding, and they 2100 01:45:36.039 --> 01:45:39.239 came and said it was too racial to me. 2101 01:45:39.399 --> 01:45:41.520 How can that be racial? These are two black guys 2102 01:45:41.600 --> 01:45:43.199 trapping white people, you know. 2103 01:45:44.239 --> 01:45:45.039 And so then. 2104 01:45:47.199 --> 01:45:50.840 This movement not an argument, just a battle of words 2105 01:45:50.840 --> 01:45:53.199 between me and Dusty were he wanted to call. 2106 01:45:53.159 --> 01:45:56.800 Him Shinetown Heat or something like that, and I said, well, 2107 01:45:57.279 --> 01:45:59.439 I wanted to call him a Posse, but a movie 2108 01:45:59.640 --> 01:46:01.920 just came out called The Posse. I didn't want to 2109 01:46:02.000 --> 01:46:05.479 copy that. Hindsight, I wish I would have. That would 2110 01:46:05.479 --> 01:46:06.560 have been a better name for him. 2111 01:46:06.920 --> 01:46:09.600 And it's nothing wrong by copying people, and I just 2112 01:46:09.720 --> 01:46:12.000 didn't know that at the time. So I said, we'll 2113 01:46:12.000 --> 01:46:14.960 call them the Harlem hell Raisers. They were building themselves 2114 01:46:14.960 --> 01:46:20.079 already from Harlem. So and bickering back and forth, I 2115 01:46:20.239 --> 01:46:24.279 just succumbed to Harlem Heat versus he was going to 2116 01:46:24.319 --> 01:46:26.840 call the Shottown He pretty much had was the Roague. 2117 01:46:26.600 --> 01:46:29.119 Warriors, Gill. You know, so this is that said road warriors. 2118 01:46:29.520 --> 01:46:31.800 You know, so this is Calm. I said, they've been 2119 01:46:32.039 --> 01:46:34.560 building themselves some Harlem, So this is cal Harlem Heat. 2120 01:46:36.960 --> 01:46:39.640 So yeah, I don't see how it's racial if they're 2121 01:46:39.720 --> 01:46:43.159 beating the shit out of white wrestlers and the fans 2122 01:46:43.239 --> 01:46:44.800 to chant like they want to kill them. You know, 2123 01:46:45.880 --> 01:46:47.800 I can see the I could see the inverse. We're like, 2124 01:46:47.880 --> 01:46:50.800 you know, the black wrestler was the babyface and was 2125 01:46:50.840 --> 01:46:53.239 being victimized by a racist white heel, and then you know, 2126 01:46:53.600 --> 01:46:55.920 the racist white heel gets his come up ins right, 2127 01:46:56.680 --> 01:46:58.279 So you can see it's a Catharsis thing. You can 2128 01:46:58.359 --> 01:47:00.760 kind of make that claim, you can, like with Jy 2129 01:47:00.840 --> 01:47:03.520 D and stuff, But here it's like it's not racial 2130 01:47:03.520 --> 01:47:07.359 because they're beating up white wrestlers. Know what he's talking about. 2131 01:47:07.560 --> 01:47:12.079 I mean, you know the fact that the entire everything else, 2132 01:47:12.119 --> 01:47:14.520 it's like, you know, it's everything else that that makes 2133 01:47:14.600 --> 01:47:18.159 it a racist thing, you dumb ass. I mean, do 2134 01:47:18.199 --> 01:47:21.359 you look at the guys you see escape prisoners, you know, right, 2135 01:47:21.520 --> 01:47:24.199 I mean just seeing them come down in chains is 2136 01:47:25.199 --> 01:47:25.760 not okay. 2137 01:47:26.239 --> 01:47:28.039 That's what was so cool about the Harlem he gimmick 2138 01:47:28.119 --> 01:47:30.239 is there was no you know, they were just a 2139 01:47:30.319 --> 01:47:33.039 great tag team. You know, I guess being from Harlem, 2140 01:47:33.159 --> 01:47:35.359 you know the way they talked and that's how they talked. Uh, 2141 01:47:35.720 --> 01:47:37.960 there was you know, it was racialized, I guess a 2142 01:47:38.000 --> 01:47:40.600 little bit in that. You know, they were very their 2143 01:47:40.680 --> 01:47:43.159 identity as black men was front and center to the 2144 01:47:43.199 --> 01:47:45.800 presentation in some ways, but it wasn't. They were just 2145 01:47:45.840 --> 01:47:48.560 a tag team that that was a couple of black 2146 01:47:48.600 --> 01:47:50.279 guys that knew how to wrestle. Well, you know, it's 2147 01:47:50.359 --> 01:47:52.840 like that's how that's that's the play, that's the move. 2148 01:47:52.960 --> 01:47:55.359 But now they saw some sort of like character in 2149 01:47:55.439 --> 01:47:57.520 these guys because they were an an American tag team. 2150 01:47:57.520 --> 01:47:59.960 It's like, so that didn't that didn't go well. 2151 01:48:00.119 --> 01:48:02.760 It was taped, we've seen We've seen glimpses of it 2152 01:48:02.800 --> 01:48:05.079 from the w W archives and some documentaries and such. 2153 01:48:05.159 --> 01:48:07.680 I think even the match where they came out dressed 2154 01:48:07.760 --> 01:48:09.880 up like that on a on a center stage television 2155 01:48:09.920 --> 01:48:12.279 taping is out there somewhere. I think they've they've shown 2156 01:48:12.319 --> 01:48:14.399 it before, but obviously it didn't go anywhere. I don't 2157 01:48:14.399 --> 01:48:17.920 think it even made national TV. Several saw the gimmick, 2158 01:48:18.000 --> 01:48:19.800 and you know, to hear Booker describe in the book, 2159 01:48:19.880 --> 01:48:22.159 like the wrestlers observing the outfits that they were showing 2160 01:48:22.239 --> 01:48:24.319 up in and got of a look on their face. 2161 01:48:24.399 --> 01:48:26.720 They you know, they they knew, especially in a company 2162 01:48:26.760 --> 01:48:29.600 that let Bill Watts go for the reasons they did. Right, Yeah, yeah, 2163 01:48:29.760 --> 01:48:32.239 this is not gonna it's not gonna go well. There 2164 01:48:32.319 --> 01:48:35.039 is a lack of cultural awareness here that's leading to 2165 01:48:35.079 --> 01:48:37.640 this getting greenlit. And I think even Bishoffa said in 2166 01:48:37.680 --> 01:48:39.119 the past that he was kind of horrified by it 2167 01:48:39.199 --> 01:48:41.960 and didn't want to see it proceed. But it got 2168 01:48:42.079 --> 01:48:44.319 through enough of the checks and balances that they went 2169 01:48:44.359 --> 01:48:45.680 out there in front of the people and taped a 2170 01:48:45.760 --> 01:48:49.239 match as Caan and Cole the death row guys. I 2171 01:48:49.279 --> 01:48:51.399 guess Sid had this. I don't know why he thinks 2172 01:48:51.439 --> 01:48:53.319 it's such a stroke of genius, but the idea that 2173 01:48:54.159 --> 01:48:56.520 somehow the Louisiana governor, to get out of gambling debt, 2174 01:48:56.560 --> 01:48:58.640 agreed to give Colonel Parker two guys who were on 2175 01:48:58.720 --> 01:49:01.399 death row in Louisiana give him over to him to 2176 01:49:01.560 --> 01:49:04.119 manage as a tag team was like a stroke of genius. 2177 01:49:04.159 --> 01:49:07.800 It's like what the governor, what are you talking? What 2178 01:49:07.880 --> 01:49:08.680 are you talking about? 2179 01:49:08.760 --> 01:49:10.079 Sid? Like what is this? 2180 01:49:10.800 --> 01:49:12.840 Like you see something in the USA today? And now 2181 01:49:12.880 --> 01:49:15.279 we all have to like hear that. There's no way 2182 01:49:15.399 --> 01:49:17.760 that they could get that complex of a backstory across 2183 01:49:17.880 --> 01:49:20.399 on a wrestling television show, especially at WCW show in 2184 01:49:20.439 --> 01:49:23.960 nineteen ninety three. I mean whatever, So that's but look 2185 01:49:24.000 --> 01:49:25.520 that's how Harlem Heat got their foot in the door 2186 01:49:25.560 --> 01:49:29.439 and then they navigated from there. For Booker T's part, 2187 01:49:29.439 --> 01:49:31.520 I mean he says that basically they came up with 2188 01:49:31.600 --> 01:49:33.960 the Harlem Heat name and a meeting with Dusty Rhodes 2189 01:49:34.199 --> 01:49:36.399 this idea that like you know, Sid came up with 2190 01:49:36.439 --> 01:49:39.159 Harlem whatever, and it doesn't. I think he's kind of 2191 01:49:40.079 --> 01:49:43.039 I think it's kind of engineering some role of authorship 2192 01:49:43.119 --> 01:49:45.439 in what Booker and Stevie ultimately became as opposed to 2193 01:49:45.479 --> 01:49:48.159 the initial vision. Booker says in his book the fans 2194 01:49:48.159 --> 01:49:50.159 were offended with the presentation when they went out there 2195 01:49:50.680 --> 01:49:53.319 in Atlanta, and that Olly and Sid gathered and only 2196 01:49:53.399 --> 01:49:55.119 tells them, you know what, we're gonna shut this thing 2197 01:49:55.159 --> 01:49:59.640 down immediately, too much heat. There's a creative meeting, and 2198 01:49:59.800 --> 01:50:01.560 this is where Booker says in his book that Dusty 2199 01:50:01.680 --> 01:50:03.039 was like, well, we need to figure out something else 2200 01:50:03.079 --> 01:50:04.880 to call you guys, because we think you have potentially 2201 01:50:04.880 --> 01:50:08.640 we want to keep you around. And and that's when 2202 01:50:08.640 --> 01:50:11.920 Booker says he suggested Harlem Heat, thinking we love black 2203 01:50:11.920 --> 01:50:15.079 exploitation movies. Booker and Stevie loved black exploitation movies. And 2204 01:50:15.479 --> 01:50:18.319 that's where sucker comes from, right, because then Shaft used 2205 01:50:18.319 --> 01:50:20.920 to say sucker all the time. Yeah, that's how they 2206 01:50:20.960 --> 01:50:24.079 say that in their promos, and that's where they came 2207 01:50:24.119 --> 01:50:26.840 up with Harlem Heat. But Booker does say that it 2208 01:50:26.920 --> 01:50:29.079 was Sid's backing that was really cited is the reason 2209 01:50:29.119 --> 01:50:31.560 that they weren't just dropped cold after that failed tryout, 2210 01:50:32.079 --> 01:50:33.680 because you know, I'm sure if Ollie had his way, 2211 01:50:33.680 --> 01:50:35.479 these guys are the shets. You know, he'd blame the talent, 2212 01:50:35.720 --> 01:50:38.960 you know, instead of the the lack of accountability along 2213 01:50:39.000 --> 01:50:42.720 the chain to red flag this thing. But because Sid 2214 01:50:42.840 --> 01:50:45.359 was behind Booker t, they didn't fire them, and they tried. 2215 01:50:45.439 --> 01:50:46.840 They went back to the drawing board and tried to 2216 01:50:46.880 --> 01:50:49.000 figure out something else to do with them. And Sid 2217 01:50:49.119 --> 01:50:52.920 actually did wrestle for a handful of occasions with Harlem 2218 01:50:52.960 --> 01:50:55.800 Heat and six man tag matches to get them well 2219 01:50:55.840 --> 01:50:58.640 spotlet I think, mostly on the ww House shieldo. And 2220 01:50:58.760 --> 01:51:00.319 this is around the time Bischoff comes in and by 2221 01:51:00.359 --> 01:51:03.199 the time War Games gets ready to happen. I mean, 2222 01:51:03.279 --> 01:51:05.239 my god, Harlem Heat just a couple of weeks, a 2223 01:51:05.279 --> 01:51:07.840 couple of months in the territory. They're in the War Games, 2224 01:51:07.880 --> 01:51:11.239 remember that in the main event. That's right, totally insane 2225 01:51:11.359 --> 01:51:15.880 to realize how relatively immature they were on a national 2226 01:51:15.960 --> 01:51:18.800 stage before getting into the wargame's main event. But that's 2227 01:51:18.840 --> 01:51:22.039 all that's all due to Sid, That's all, you know, 2228 01:51:22.239 --> 01:51:27.039 Sid getting getting people hired because of this way that 2229 01:51:27.079 --> 01:51:30.039 he held, and upon Sid's passing, Booker T took to 2230 01:51:30.119 --> 01:51:33.159 his own podcast, Reality of Wrestling to reflect a little 2231 01:51:33.159 --> 01:51:35.680 bit on how it hit him looking back on what 2232 01:51:35.840 --> 01:51:37.720 Sid did for him in w CW and his brother. 2233 01:51:39.199 --> 01:51:42.359 It's been a rough day for me. Uh, it's been 2234 01:51:42.399 --> 01:51:44.199 a real rough day. We lost Sid Vicious. 2235 01:51:45.760 --> 01:51:46.279 Yeah, man. 2236 01:51:48.560 --> 01:51:50.680 Sid actually was the dude that got me and my 2237 01:51:50.800 --> 01:51:59.119 brother I break phone call, came to the Global Wrestling Federation, 2238 01:51:59.279 --> 01:52:02.600 the sportatory him and pretty much to rest his history, 2239 01:52:03.920 --> 01:52:05.920 Sid Vicious brought me and my brother in. He said, hey, ma, 2240 01:52:05.920 --> 01:52:07.439 I'm gonna get you guys, and I'm gonna get you in. 2241 01:52:08.439 --> 01:52:10.920 Probably about six months later, me and my brothers was 2242 01:52:10.960 --> 01:52:13.039 in w CW, and not just in w CW, was 2243 01:52:13.079 --> 01:52:17.960 staying at sid viscous apartment, uh park the Park apartments 2244 01:52:18.359 --> 01:52:22.640 right there and marry out of Georgia. And uh he 2245 01:52:22.720 --> 01:52:24.560 didn't have to do that. I mean, Sid didn't have 2246 01:52:24.640 --> 01:52:27.600 to do that. I mean, but he went out on 2247 01:52:27.640 --> 01:52:29.600 the limb just for me and my brother to actually 2248 01:52:29.640 --> 01:52:37.680 give us a springboard right off the bat first pay 2249 01:52:37.680 --> 01:52:39.520 per view, first pay per view, I was in the 2250 01:52:39.560 --> 01:52:43.159 main event with Sid Vicious, you know, right here in Houston, Texas. 2251 01:52:43.279 --> 01:52:44.119 All because of Sid. 2252 01:52:44.239 --> 01:52:44.399 Man. 2253 01:52:44.479 --> 01:52:46.479 See, it made sure me and my brother got that 2254 01:52:46.600 --> 01:52:49.880 spot two rookies, man, two green horns, you know, in 2255 01:52:49.960 --> 01:52:53.800 the main event, and a pay per view that you 2256 01:52:53.880 --> 01:52:56.800 know that was being debut Dusty Roads. You know, I 2257 01:52:56.880 --> 01:53:01.479 came out of the mine of Dusty Rhoads. And man, 2258 01:53:03.000 --> 01:53:05.760 what a time, Man, what a time I've been. I've 2259 01:53:05.760 --> 01:53:08.960 been thinking about that all day today, man, ever since 2260 01:53:09.000 --> 01:53:12.920 I heard I got a phone call, accident, got the news, 2261 01:53:13.039 --> 01:53:15.720 and all day heaven just going back in time and 2262 01:53:16.279 --> 01:53:20.239 going back to the early nineties. Man, it was such 2263 01:53:20.279 --> 01:53:24.560 a freaking ride, Sisious, the one that kicked that ride off. Man, 2264 01:53:24.640 --> 01:53:27.520 I'm just I'm just glad I got here to see Sid. 2265 01:53:28.359 --> 01:53:30.520 I don't know, maybe six months year or two a 2266 01:53:30.640 --> 01:53:33.880 year ago, and uh, I'm just glad I got a 2267 01:53:34.000 --> 01:53:37.840 chance to tell Sid VI's just thank you. I swear 2268 01:53:37.920 --> 01:53:39.840 to God, that's what I told Sid. 2269 01:53:39.920 --> 01:53:40.039 Man. 2270 01:53:40.039 --> 01:53:43.199 I give him all the praise for getting me and 2271 01:53:43.279 --> 01:53:45.840 my brother in and doing what he did for us. Man, 2272 01:53:45.880 --> 01:53:47.920 I just I told him, I just wanted to thank 2273 01:53:48.039 --> 01:53:52.840 him for everything. If he had personally in his face, 2274 01:53:53.000 --> 01:53:55.319 you know, to his face. I wanted to thank him 2275 01:53:55.399 --> 01:53:57.520 for everything that he did for me and my brother, 2276 01:54:01.279 --> 01:54:03.159 and I'm just glad I got a chance to do that. 2277 01:54:03.960 --> 01:54:07.600 Said it definitely was the guy that springboard you know, 2278 01:54:07.720 --> 01:54:10.960 my brother and my my career to the next level. 2279 01:54:10.960 --> 01:54:13.600 Put us in great position right off the bat. And 2280 01:54:13.840 --> 01:54:16.800 and the thing is, I still don't even really know 2281 01:54:16.880 --> 01:54:21.399 why said did that for us. You know, it's always 2282 01:54:21.560 --> 01:54:24.319 always wonder, you know, you know what would have been 2283 01:54:24.399 --> 01:54:27.800 my brother and I what would have been what would 2284 01:54:27.840 --> 01:54:29.960 have been our route if it wasn't for said Vicious. 2285 01:54:31.159 --> 01:54:32.640 I mean, I hate to say it, book I mean, 2286 01:54:34.479 --> 01:54:36.760 do you want to know the reason why? Because he 2287 01:54:36.840 --> 01:54:40.760 had an idea for death row gimmick and you thought 2288 01:54:40.800 --> 01:54:44.279 you guys would make great prisoners. Well, look, how you 2289 01:54:44.359 --> 01:54:45.680 get in the business is how you get in the 2290 01:54:45.720 --> 01:54:49.359 business is what you do right from there along the way, 2291 01:54:49.439 --> 01:54:52.840 how you navigate. So I understand all of the deference 2292 01:54:52.920 --> 01:54:55.039 to Sid from Booker there and and and the praise 2293 01:54:55.279 --> 01:54:58.399 to SID for getting them that opportunity, because he knows 2294 01:54:58.680 --> 01:55:01.760 that they would have been fucking gone on and scapegoaded 2295 01:55:01.800 --> 01:55:06.760 for that whole disaster if SID didn't have their backing 2296 01:55:06.800 --> 01:55:08.600 from an office perspective, and if getting rid of the 2297 01:55:08.640 --> 01:55:11.039 Harlem heat wasn't seen as a slight to Sid, which 2298 01:55:11.079 --> 01:55:13.000 it would have been. So Sid took care of people 2299 01:55:13.000 --> 01:55:16.239 along the way, particularly as he was trying again to 2300 01:55:16.359 --> 01:55:18.479 forge a new identity as someone who could be helpful 2301 01:55:18.600 --> 01:55:20.399 in the office as well as in the ring, which 2302 01:55:20.479 --> 01:55:24.039 is just hilarious and doomed to fail. But we mentioned 2303 01:55:24.119 --> 01:55:31.159 that another beneficiary of Sid's newfound sway, Sid's newfound influence 2304 01:55:31.279 --> 01:55:32.359 is Colonel Robert Parker. 2305 01:55:32.399 --> 01:55:32.880 And it was. 2306 01:55:34.359 --> 01:55:36.840 At the Slambourree nineteen ninety three pay per view in 2307 01:55:36.920 --> 01:55:39.680 May of nineteen ninety three that Van Hammer is in 2308 01:55:39.760 --> 01:55:41.920 the ring to face a mystery opponent, and we are 2309 01:55:42.760 --> 01:55:46.880 subjected for the first time to this Colonel Robert Parker character. 2310 01:55:48.279 --> 01:55:49.920 And not only is he here to tell us who 2311 01:55:49.960 --> 01:55:51.640 he is and what he's about, but he's here to 2312 01:55:51.720 --> 01:55:55.039 introduce us to his charge, the returning Sid. 2313 01:55:57.159 --> 01:55:57.600 Here comes. 2314 01:55:57.600 --> 01:55:59.600 See Gurney very right up here. 2315 01:56:01.840 --> 01:56:04.800 I was holding a stretcher that is contentable. 2316 01:56:05.720 --> 01:56:09.319 I'm not to introduce to you now for three hundred 2317 01:56:09.439 --> 01:56:12.520 pounds from mister ten a thief. 2318 01:56:13.520 --> 01:56:15.439 Oh lord, you get off on your feet. 2319 01:56:16.000 --> 01:56:20.279 Were a shoe of a stick for the man then 2320 01:56:20.439 --> 01:56:29.720 rules the world. Sick fishup, Oh my, get that going 2321 01:56:29.800 --> 01:56:30.399 over here. 2322 01:56:30.319 --> 01:56:30.960 Long, Coco. 2323 01:56:33.119 --> 01:56:36.000 We don't want help to hold here, Cooper n Father, 2324 01:56:36.600 --> 01:56:38.239 get the god old the hair, Coco. 2325 01:56:38.760 --> 01:56:41.479 I don't want to be holding the concas respas. 2326 01:56:41.520 --> 01:56:46.319 I got a paper here, I tell you World Championship Wrestling. 2327 01:56:46.399 --> 01:56:51.880 Better buy a few more kurneyes. Sit Vicious making its 2328 01:56:51.960 --> 01:56:52.640 lighting the line. 2329 01:56:52.720 --> 01:56:54.359 Meanwhile that Heather. 2330 01:56:54.199 --> 01:56:55.760 Has destroyed the journey. 2331 01:56:56.960 --> 01:56:59.840 Honey outside, sit Vicious hit back. 2332 01:57:01.560 --> 01:57:02.239 Why here we go? 2333 01:57:05.199 --> 01:57:07.239 So Sid gets in there and he's back, and he 2334 01:57:07.319 --> 01:57:08.680 absolutely fucking. 2335 01:57:08.760 --> 01:57:10.520 Yeah, better buy a few more gurneys. 2336 01:57:11.920 --> 01:57:14.520 Yeah, if you're wondering if Bischoff was in power yet, 2337 01:57:14.600 --> 01:57:16.680 let the fact that Larry's obisco is on color his 2338 01:57:16.720 --> 01:57:20.000 old age body. He'll be the answer there. So Sid 2339 01:57:20.039 --> 01:57:23.279 gets in the ring and absolutely obliterates van Hammer, and 2340 01:57:24.039 --> 01:57:25.439 you know, he does what he has to do to 2341 01:57:25.560 --> 01:57:28.359 be Sid right, the same thing that he had a 2342 01:57:28.439 --> 01:57:31.239 fit over warrior pulling on him. Yeah, this is who 2343 01:57:31.239 --> 01:57:33.279 the war ultimate warrior is, the ultimate Warrior has to 2344 01:57:33.359 --> 01:57:35.119 do these things to be the ultimate warrior, to be 2345 01:57:35.199 --> 01:57:38.159 who the people buy into. Now he's coming into WCW 2346 01:57:38.319 --> 01:57:40.520 and he's gonna he's gonna run people over, even if, 2347 01:57:41.119 --> 01:57:44.039 as the shoot interview that Sid did with Hannibal indicates, 2348 01:57:44.119 --> 01:57:46.920 van Hammer wanted a little something more out of the deal, 2349 01:57:47.239 --> 01:57:49.119 it's not gonna happen. Sid's in town. 2350 01:57:49.960 --> 01:57:52.319 So we're sitting there and van Hammer is telling me 2351 01:57:52.439 --> 01:57:54.199 all about all the stuff he's going to do, being 2352 01:57:54.239 --> 01:57:55.000 bing bing. 2353 01:57:55.119 --> 01:57:57.000 I said, no, do this what we're going to do 2354 01:57:57.439 --> 01:58:00.239 where how you know he did his interest in talk. 2355 01:58:00.319 --> 01:58:02.600 Come in, I'm gonna do this, Jill, can you kitch 2356 01:58:02.640 --> 01:58:03.720 you to get power bombing? 2357 01:58:03.760 --> 01:58:06.680 And that's it? And he looked around him and Bill said, 2358 01:58:06.960 --> 01:58:07.960 I guess that's what we're doing. 2359 01:58:11.079 --> 01:58:13.720 Bill Dundee, of course, Oh my god. It was front 2360 01:58:13.720 --> 01:58:19.920 office and Aussie, I mean sits back. I mean this guy, please, 2361 01:58:20.439 --> 01:58:22.760 he's just gonna squash everybody and that's the way it's 2362 01:58:22.760 --> 01:58:23.079 going to be. 2363 01:58:23.800 --> 01:58:24.840 And no one says. 2364 01:58:25.880 --> 01:58:28.039 So he's back, and he kills van Hammer on the show, 2365 01:58:28.119 --> 01:58:31.439 Power bombs him to hell in seconds, and van Hammer 2366 01:58:31.479 --> 01:58:33.800 is essentially never heard from again until the Flock Days. 2367 01:58:35.119 --> 01:58:38.520 So he's back and again mentioning that the shredder thing 2368 01:58:38.560 --> 01:58:42.199 he got into that life right exactly. He was just 2369 01:58:42.319 --> 01:58:45.720 left over from Jim Hurd's many failed attempts to create 2370 01:58:45.880 --> 01:58:48.840 characters that appeal to children, including the rocker Van Hammer 2371 01:58:49.560 --> 01:58:53.319 that he pushed to the moon and fizzled out, but 2372 01:58:53.439 --> 01:58:55.760 still haven't. Of course, still in a contract back then, 2373 01:58:55.880 --> 01:58:58.279 better believe it under contract throughout the whole nineties in 2374 01:58:58.399 --> 01:59:01.600 w c W, despite never resonating in any way, shape 2375 01:59:01.680 --> 01:59:06.560 or form, that was w CW. So again the movie thing, 2376 01:59:06.640 --> 01:59:10.760 you know, with the Turner crossover, He tells Hannibal does 2377 01:59:10.800 --> 01:59:14.319 Sid that when he worked for Turner, w W presented 2378 01:59:15.640 --> 01:59:18.960 somebody who ran a promotion for when things came up 2379 01:59:19.000 --> 01:59:21.720 for movie parts and stuff like that. Guess his name 2380 01:59:21.800 --> 01:59:24.159 is Barry Norman. And this is a guy who would like, 2381 01:59:24.479 --> 01:59:26.840 I guess, look around w CW for people in movie 2382 01:59:26.920 --> 01:59:32.640 parts that that that they needed. And the guy from Maine, 2383 01:59:32.680 --> 01:59:36.000 I guess, so he got him the gig with the Yeah, 2384 01:59:36.079 --> 01:59:39.840 Barry Norman's his name. He runs the theater Familiar Evening 2385 01:59:39.920 --> 01:59:45.640 Star Cinema, Brunswick, Maine. Perhaps he's a perhaps he's a 2386 01:59:45.840 --> 01:59:48.279 presenter of plays as well. I'm not sure I know, 2387 01:59:49.600 --> 01:59:51.560 but he says, Sid straight up says that this guy 2388 01:59:51.640 --> 01:59:54.039 got him a gig with the Ninja Turtles movie where 2389 01:59:54.039 --> 01:59:56.880 he was going to be Super Shredder, but according to Sid, 2390 01:59:56.960 --> 01:59:59.159 only said no, we can't let Sid take those days 2391 01:59:59.199 --> 02:00:00.960 off to do movies. Give it to Kevin Nash, who 2392 02:00:01.000 --> 02:00:02.600 they were one going to do shit with post Oz 2393 02:00:03.560 --> 02:00:05.880 after Oz, and thus Kevin Nash gets his first major 2394 02:00:05.960 --> 02:00:08.039 role as Super Shrudder, but that was going to be Sid. 2395 02:00:08.239 --> 02:00:12.720 According to Sid, he says, that's what happens when I 2396 02:00:12.840 --> 02:00:14.359 was in the business, and this is great for me, 2397 02:00:14.439 --> 02:00:15.960 But as far as trying to attain an acting career, 2398 02:00:16.039 --> 02:00:17.680 they're not going to give you the days off because 2399 02:00:17.720 --> 02:00:20.319 the business is a lot different. They would work out 2400 02:00:20.359 --> 02:00:22.520 by the public about the loser leaves town or all 2401 02:00:22.560 --> 02:00:25.520 that stuff to get time off, but Sid said it 2402 02:00:25.600 --> 02:00:28.239 just that wasn't happening. So the other times he had 2403 02:00:28.279 --> 02:00:32.079 a chance to really get into the movies we're talking about. 2404 02:00:33.319 --> 02:00:35.239 You know, if you're not in California, it becomes hard. 2405 02:00:36.039 --> 02:00:38.479 And his son was trying to break into the business 2406 02:00:38.479 --> 02:00:39.840 at the time he did this interview. He said, you 2407 02:00:39.840 --> 02:00:44.640 can ask my son about that. And eventually, after graduating college, 2408 02:00:44.640 --> 02:00:45.760 talks about his sun a bit and he says the 2409 02:00:45.800 --> 02:00:47.640 only person ever made it in movies was the Rock. 2410 02:00:48.119 --> 02:00:48.920 He says. 2411 02:00:50.359 --> 02:00:52.880 Eventually he ended up doing six or seven movies, and 2412 02:00:52.960 --> 02:00:55.079 we did share with you just last week on the 2413 02:00:55.159 --> 02:00:58.199 main Feed the episode of Under the Cinemat for one 2414 02:00:58.239 --> 02:01:00.720 of the low budget films that Sid actually he was able. 2415 02:01:00.520 --> 02:01:03.239 To do in his time. One. Yes, oh yes, River 2416 02:01:03.439 --> 02:01:07.920 of Darkness, Boss. River of Darkness. What a piece of garbage. 2417 02:01:08.159 --> 02:01:10.760 Oh it was bad, I mean, that was. 2418 02:01:16.159 --> 02:01:16.199 It. 2419 02:01:16.399 --> 02:01:17.359 It was. 2420 02:01:17.720 --> 02:01:20.319 It was really bad. I mean it's it's a a 2421 02:01:20.439 --> 02:01:27.760 straight to video movie and it was. It was just awful. 2422 02:01:29.279 --> 02:01:31.960 And Kevin Nash in it as well. Yeah it was. 2423 02:01:32.199 --> 02:01:37.000 I mean, yeah, Kurd Angle, Kevin Nash, Sid It's it's 2424 02:01:37.520 --> 02:01:39.439 you know, it's kind of star studded cast there. 2425 02:01:39.560 --> 02:01:42.399 Yeah, sure, it does film out of Pittsburgh. He also 2426 02:01:42.479 --> 02:01:44.840 did a film called Stranded, and he apparently does a 2427 02:01:44.920 --> 02:01:47.399 deal in like a mockingbird kind of movie where he 2428 02:01:47.439 --> 02:01:49.720 doesn't have a speaking part, but he was dead the 2429 02:01:49.760 --> 02:01:50.239 whole time. 2430 02:01:50.359 --> 02:01:52.760 And yeah he and he and Nash are dead brothers, 2431 02:01:52.920 --> 02:01:53.279 so he can. 2432 02:01:53.399 --> 02:01:58.119 Okay, Yeah, is that River Darkness. That's River Darkness, River Darkness. Yeah, 2433 02:01:58.760 --> 02:02:00.319 in this interview he starts talking about it. That's a 2434 02:02:00.359 --> 02:02:02.479 different movie from River of Darkness. But oh, I see 2435 02:02:02.640 --> 02:02:03.000 it wasn't. 2436 02:02:03.000 --> 02:02:04.159 Sorry he's a. 2437 02:02:04.239 --> 02:02:06.159 Lapsed fan Wrestling podcast. 2438 02:02:23.479 --> 02:02:27.399 He's a lapsed fan Wrestling podcast with Jack and Carno 2439 02:02:27.800 --> 02:02:29.439 and JP Soro, and he. 2440 02:02:29.479 --> 02:02:31.720 Talked about, you know that he had a planned when 2441 02:02:31.760 --> 02:02:33.039 he got in the business. He wanted to get out 2442 02:02:33.119 --> 02:02:35.600 at forty and he was thirty three at this time 2443 02:02:35.680 --> 02:02:38.960 in nineteen ninety three upon returning to WCW, so wow, 2444 02:02:39.279 --> 02:02:40.880 you could see some you know, one or two juicy 2445 02:02:40.960 --> 02:02:44.119 movie offers, maybe paving the path for a life beyond wrestling, 2446 02:02:44.119 --> 02:02:47.359 which apparently he was seeing for himself within the decade. 2447 02:02:48.880 --> 02:02:52.000 And then of course in WCW at the time as 2448 02:02:52.039 --> 02:02:59.119 well was arn Anderson and this Boss is where our 2449 02:02:59.279 --> 02:03:06.920 reality sets in October twenty seventh, nineteen ninety three, following 2450 02:03:06.960 --> 02:03:11.079 a WCW live event in Blackburn, England. For all is 2451 02:03:11.640 --> 02:03:15.520 for all the misery that was the WCW balance sheet 2452 02:03:15.560 --> 02:03:19.279 in nineteen ninety three, there were some bright spots when 2453 02:03:19.319 --> 02:03:23.079 they were able to get over to Europe. They had 2454 02:03:24.239 --> 02:03:27.199 you know, pretty strong shows in England and Ireland and 2455 02:03:27.319 --> 02:03:29.039 then around this point in nineteen ninety three as well 2456 02:03:29.039 --> 02:03:32.319 as Germany. This was the tour of course where mckfuley 2457 02:03:32.359 --> 02:03:34.479 gets his ear torn off in the Ropes against Vader, 2458 02:03:35.720 --> 02:03:38.760 and it's a trip worth making for WCW is they 2459 02:03:38.760 --> 02:03:40.479 try to find a place where they can actually turn 2460 02:03:40.560 --> 02:03:43.520 a profit, and so everyone has to go over there. 2461 02:03:43.600 --> 02:03:46.520 Not everyone, but many do, I imagine most. 2462 02:03:47.479 --> 02:03:50.039 And so when we talk about the CID arm fight, 2463 02:03:50.199 --> 02:03:53.239 there's just multiple perspectives. It's it's postmodern and the amount 2464 02:03:53.239 --> 02:03:55.920 of perspectives there are on this thing. And we're going 2465 02:03:55.960 --> 02:03:58.119 to do it damned just here in the TLF tribute 2466 02:03:58.119 --> 02:03:59.840 to Sid because there's really no better place to get 2467 02:04:00.319 --> 02:04:02.840 into this then right here, to try to lay down 2468 02:04:04.000 --> 02:04:07.880 something approximating a fact pattern that takes most of the 2469 02:04:08.279 --> 02:04:11.399 important perspectives into account. I want to start here with 2470 02:04:11.479 --> 02:04:14.760 the book of at the time WCW ring announcer Gary 2471 02:04:14.800 --> 02:04:17.840 Michael Kippetta, who's a shrewd observer of all that's happening 2472 02:04:17.840 --> 02:04:20.760 around him in the business. He's kind of it's kind 2473 02:04:20.800 --> 02:04:22.279 of a pain in the ass, but at the same time, 2474 02:04:22.640 --> 02:04:24.680 he is somebody that sits in a unique vantage point 2475 02:04:24.880 --> 02:04:27.399 and ended up in a position where he could just 2476 02:04:27.479 --> 02:04:30.840 dish on everybody and had nothing to lose. At the time, 2477 02:04:30.920 --> 02:04:33.800 with interviews and podcasts and such, was very open about, 2478 02:04:33.920 --> 02:04:36.399 you know, being from Pennsylvania and getting his start working 2479 02:04:37.039 --> 02:04:39.800 WWF shows under the auspices of the Pennsylvania Stated have 2480 02:04:39.920 --> 02:04:43.000 led a commission about George of Horian's practices and stuff. 2481 02:04:43.039 --> 02:04:45.199 So he's kind of a a He's a truth teller 2482 02:04:45.359 --> 02:04:47.119 in a lot of ways, and you might not believe 2483 02:04:47.119 --> 02:04:48.840 what he says is the truth. But he's not one 2484 02:04:48.880 --> 02:04:52.119 of those guys that's wasn't me. I wasn't directly involved that. 2485 02:04:52.119 --> 02:04:55.239 I won't comment. He will comment. Gary Michael Copetta will comment. 2486 02:04:55.680 --> 02:04:57.720 By the way, I'm realizing who I'm thinking of in 2487 02:04:57.880 --> 02:05:01.399 terms of Barry Norman. Oh yeah, Norman is the host 2488 02:05:01.640 --> 02:05:05.600 of the BBC film series that I've used. Oh, of 2489 02:05:05.680 --> 02:05:08.640 course for cinemat That's not this guy. That's not different 2490 02:05:08.680 --> 02:05:10.840 Barry Norman. That's but that same name. That's why I'm 2491 02:05:10.920 --> 02:05:13.199 like Barry Norman. I know, fucking Barry Nan. I thought 2492 02:05:13.199 --> 02:05:14.760 you may have worked a theater for him or something 2493 02:05:14.920 --> 02:05:16.039 or no summer. 2494 02:05:15.880 --> 02:05:19.439 Second of definitely something like I knew the name for something. 2495 02:05:20.319 --> 02:05:22.159 So Gary Michael Capetta of course, was on the road 2496 02:05:22.159 --> 02:05:24.359 for WWT the time and has the perspective not so 2497 02:05:24.479 --> 02:05:26.520 much as someone you know, involved in breaking up the fight, 2498 02:05:26.760 --> 02:05:29.479 but involved in kind of observing the publicity that this 2499 02:05:29.800 --> 02:05:33.640 happening overseas, with these wild wrestlers being in an England 2500 02:05:33.640 --> 02:05:36.479 hotel room generated so he's kind of got that perspective 2501 02:05:36.479 --> 02:05:38.199 on it as well. I turned to you, boss, if 2502 02:05:38.239 --> 02:05:41.479 you could share with the Solar System GMC's recollections of 2503 02:05:41.520 --> 02:05:42.880 this thing to get us started. 2504 02:05:43.680 --> 02:05:47.399 On Tuesday morning, the buses were waiting at Gatwick Airport 2505 02:05:47.479 --> 02:05:50.199 for the one hundred and fifty mile trek to Cardiff, Wales. 2506 02:05:50.840 --> 02:05:53.560 The first event of the Halloween Havoc ninety three tour 2507 02:05:54.119 --> 02:05:57.119 would be held that same evening. We arrived at the 2508 02:05:57.199 --> 02:06:00.159 Cardiff Marriott at noon, allowing us just enough to time 2509 02:06:00.239 --> 02:06:02.560 to eat, take a short nap and be ready to 2510 02:06:02.640 --> 02:06:05.439 board the bus once again at five for the short 2511 02:06:05.520 --> 02:06:10.079 trip to the International Arena. After a fairly successful Cardiff show, 2512 02:06:10.119 --> 02:06:12.840 we were whisked off once again for a late night 2513 02:06:13.039 --> 02:06:17.319 sixteen one hundred and sixty mile journey to Blackburn, the 2514 02:06:17.399 --> 02:06:21.920 sight of the next night's event. Although everyone was understandably exhausted, 2515 02:06:22.000 --> 02:06:25.399 spirits were high and spirits were flowing throughout the motor 2516 02:06:25.439 --> 02:06:27.920 coach that served us as our home on wheels for 2517 02:06:28.000 --> 02:06:30.760 the next week. Not a problem, not a problem. Nope, 2518 02:06:31.000 --> 02:06:33.640 let's just get drunk. Most of the seats in the 2519 02:06:33.680 --> 02:06:39.560 bus were of the standard of the standard Dard variety. Well, 2520 02:06:39.560 --> 02:06:41.560 maybe it's a standard of variety and it's a double 2521 02:06:41.680 --> 02:06:47.760 thing there. I think that's what it is. Yeah, facing forward, okay. 2522 02:06:48.359 --> 02:06:51.199 In some of the sections, pairs of seats faced each other, 2523 02:06:51.319 --> 02:06:54.359 separated by drop down tables with a built in with 2524 02:06:54.479 --> 02:06:57.520 built in drink holders. The rear quarter of the coach 2525 02:06:57.640 --> 02:06:59.359 was separated from the rest of the seats by a 2526 02:06:59.439 --> 02:07:03.279 bathroom equipped with a drop down bed. This back section 2527 02:07:03.479 --> 02:07:06.720 of the specially built tour bus usually served as private 2528 02:07:06.800 --> 02:07:10.079 quarters for the show's headliner. On this particular evening, I 2529 02:07:10.159 --> 02:07:14.880 shared the cubicle with Arn Anderson tour manager Phil Bowdry, 2530 02:07:15.520 --> 02:07:20.960 and overflowing coolers of beer and soda. As guys continually 2531 02:07:21.319 --> 02:07:24.560 wandered back to the makeshift bar, we chatted about the 2532 02:07:24.640 --> 02:07:27.439 upcoming stops and the number of tickets already sold. Arn, 2533 02:07:27.600 --> 02:07:29.840 one of the most respected guys in the business, expresses 2534 02:07:29.880 --> 02:07:33.560 appreciation to Phil for the way BCC took care of us. 2535 02:07:34.079 --> 02:07:36.159 It was a relaxing conversation. At the end of a 2536 02:07:36.239 --> 02:07:40.079 NonStop five day trek. We arrived with the Moat House Hotel, 2537 02:07:40.359 --> 02:07:43.479 Brother Mote Mote tier House, Big Protel. 2538 02:07:43.680 --> 02:07:47.600 I think BCC, by the way, is the local promotions 2539 02:07:47.680 --> 02:07:49.760 company that they partnered with for the tour. 2540 02:07:50.800 --> 02:07:53.199 I thought it maybe have been a big Caucasian cock 2541 02:07:55.880 --> 02:08:00.880 in England. Maybe, I guess that makes sense. The little 2542 02:08:00.920 --> 02:08:04.520 Caucasian cock maybe makes sense. The British cock Casting Company. 2543 02:08:04.600 --> 02:08:08.199 There it is, there it is. We arrived at the 2544 02:08:08.359 --> 02:08:12.680 Mote tier House Hotel in Blackburn after midnight. The receptionist 2545 02:08:12.720 --> 02:08:15.159 on duty was pleased to report that the lounge remained 2546 02:08:15.239 --> 02:08:18.640 open as a courtesy to their American guests. The temptation 2547 02:08:19.039 --> 02:08:21.399 was too great for several of the wrestlers to resist, 2548 02:08:21.760 --> 02:08:24.800 so they moved. But here we go, So they moved 2549 02:08:24.840 --> 02:08:26.760 the festivities from the bus to the bar, and the 2550 02:08:26.840 --> 02:08:30.760 boozing began once again. The rest of us dragged our 2551 02:08:30.840 --> 02:08:33.600 sleep deprived bodies off to our rooms to recuperate from 2552 02:08:33.640 --> 02:08:37.680 the short naps, transatlantic antics, and late night road trips 2553 02:08:37.760 --> 02:08:41.600 of the preceding days. There was nothing I desired more 2554 02:08:42.119 --> 02:08:45.159 than a full night's sleep. It was one o'clock when 2555 02:08:45.199 --> 02:08:48.159 I finally plopped into bed for what I thought would 2556 02:08:48.159 --> 02:08:51.640 be a sound, peaceful rest. But the sounds that stirred 2557 02:08:51.680 --> 02:08:56.760 me from my slumber were far from peaceful. Shouting and 2558 02:08:57.039 --> 02:09:01.920 pounding jolted me back into consciousness. My brother, can't you pitch. 2559 02:09:02.000 --> 02:09:06.079 That exhausted jet lag feeling? And then you finally feel 2560 02:09:06.159 --> 02:09:08.319 like you've carved off the time to catch up? And 2561 02:09:08.840 --> 02:09:12.239 then everyone then for some reason others just didn't get 2562 02:09:12.279 --> 02:09:13.920 the memo, And. 2563 02:09:14.039 --> 02:09:15.720 The more. 2564 02:09:17.159 --> 02:09:21.199 Frustrating then, like when you're on the verge of like 2565 02:09:21.800 --> 02:09:27.039 getting such much desired rest and then something just ruins it. 2566 02:09:27.399 --> 02:09:31.800 Oh all right. My first thought was that the boys 2567 02:09:31.840 --> 02:09:33.840 were just rough housing up and down the hall. I 2568 02:09:33.920 --> 02:09:37.760 then realized the racket was taking place just outside my door. 2569 02:09:38.680 --> 02:09:41.840 Seconds later, I heard funderous thumps or wax against either 2570 02:09:41.880 --> 02:09:44.520 of the walls or the doors, or both. I couldn't 2571 02:09:44.520 --> 02:09:47.479 be sure. The pictures and mirrors that hung in my 2572 02:09:47.640 --> 02:09:51.199 room vibrated with the power of each impact. I quickly 2573 02:09:51.279 --> 02:09:58.640 became convinced that this wrestling was for real. Alarmed, I 2574 02:09:58.760 --> 02:10:01.720 moved closer to the door. There was no security peephole 2575 02:10:01.800 --> 02:10:03.359 to see what was happening on the other side, so 2576 02:10:03.439 --> 02:10:07.359 I impulsively reached for the doorknob. Between the smacking sounds, 2577 02:10:07.359 --> 02:10:10.479 which continued without a pause, I heard the intense, persistent 2578 02:10:10.600 --> 02:10:17.840 shrieks of a determined but desperate voice. It was the 2579 02:10:17.920 --> 02:10:22.960 voice of said vicious correct Orn. I've heard enough. Oh 2580 02:10:23.039 --> 02:10:26.960 my god. A few seconds of silence, then a whack Arn, 2581 02:10:27.079 --> 02:10:31.960 it's got to end a little more agitated, another whack on, 2582 02:10:32.199 --> 02:10:35.920 let's settle this right now. I heard the door across 2583 02:10:36.000 --> 02:10:38.560 the hall burst open, a smack of flesh, and the 2584 02:10:38.600 --> 02:10:43.279 struggling of two bodies bouncing off walls, heavy heaving grunts 2585 02:10:43.319 --> 02:10:46.960 and groans during the scene of sounds. I nervously backed 2586 02:10:47.000 --> 02:10:51.800 away from the door. Then I couldn't move. I should have. 2587 02:10:51.880 --> 02:10:53.560 I should have picked up the phone to call for help, 2588 02:10:53.600 --> 02:10:56.560 but I didn't. I couldn't. I was frozen in fear. 2589 02:10:58.640 --> 02:11:00.680 By the time I regained my composer sure, the commotion 2590 02:11:00.840 --> 02:11:04.359 had subsided into quiet murmurs of concern and shock. At 2591 02:11:04.399 --> 02:11:07.680 the bloody aftermath of the fight, Sid was removed from 2592 02:11:07.720 --> 02:11:10.279 the scene. As the boys huddled around Arn in the 2593 02:11:10.439 --> 02:11:16.039 crimson splattered hall, WCW's head of security, Doug Dellinger, and 2594 02:11:16.399 --> 02:11:21.399 Vader inspected the lacerations that covered the face and upper 2595 02:11:21.479 --> 02:11:25.039 body of their bewildered and bloody friend Arn. Looked up 2596 02:11:25.039 --> 02:11:29.399 at Vader, repeating over and over again, Leon, you know me. 2597 02:11:30.479 --> 02:11:32.600 I don't carry a knife. You know me, brother, I 2598 02:11:32.720 --> 02:11:36.640 never carry a knife. By now the Blackburn police and 2599 02:11:36.720 --> 02:11:40.039 emergency squad members had joined the crowd. Both wrestlers were 2600 02:11:40.039 --> 02:11:42.439 taken to the hospital and we were left to sort 2601 02:11:42.479 --> 02:11:46.000 out exactly what had transpired. Lay it on too little 2602 02:11:46.039 --> 02:11:48.720 sleep and too much alcohol. If not in Blackburn, it 2603 02:11:48.760 --> 02:11:51.680 could have been London or Munich, or Hamburg or Birmingham, England, 2604 02:11:51.800 --> 02:11:55.640 or Alabama. Given the circumstances, it was bound to happen. 2605 02:11:56.079 --> 02:11:58.600 The only surprise was that it didn't happen sooner. The 2606 02:11:58.680 --> 02:12:00.800 bad blood had begun to boil in the hotel bar 2607 02:12:00.920 --> 02:12:03.720 when the conversation turned to the politics and the pecking 2608 02:12:03.880 --> 02:12:08.199 order within wcw Arn defended his best buddy in booker 2609 02:12:08.319 --> 02:12:11.199 Brick Flair, when Vicious accused Flair of unfairly promoting his 2610 02:12:11.399 --> 02:12:15.079 pals instead of the wrestlers who could draw money. Sid 2611 02:12:15.159 --> 02:12:17.800 sees himself as a draw and he knows Anderson and 2612 02:12:17.840 --> 02:12:21.479 Flair are pals, they are really more like brothers. He 2613 02:12:21.640 --> 02:12:23.920 was well aware of the bond and the loyalty that 2614 02:12:24.079 --> 02:12:27.520 for years had existed between the two veterans. Arn aimed 2615 02:12:27.640 --> 02:12:31.920 for sid sore spot with disparaging remarks about his limited 2616 02:12:34.039 --> 02:12:39.439 sorry a limited wrestling ability and overrated reputation. When voices 2617 02:12:39.479 --> 02:12:42.800 were raised and threats were traded, Devnger sent both wrestlers 2618 02:12:42.840 --> 02:12:45.680 to their rooms for the night. Arm's room, Arn's room 2619 02:12:45.760 --> 02:12:47.520 was across from mind well what it's worth And we'll 2620 02:12:47.520 --> 02:12:48.000 hear this later. 2621 02:12:48.079 --> 02:12:50.880 When Syd recounts the story, he says that the reason 2622 02:12:50.920 --> 02:12:53.039 they went back to the rooms was because everyone was 2623 02:12:53.119 --> 02:12:55.079 down in the bar thinking that the food that had 2624 02:12:55.119 --> 02:12:56.720 been ordered for the wrestlers was going to be at 2625 02:12:56.760 --> 02:12:58.520 the bar, and then they found out that the food 2626 02:12:58.520 --> 02:13:00.640 had actually been delivered everybody's room, and that's why they 2627 02:13:00.680 --> 02:13:03.000 go to the room, not that they were ordered up 2628 02:13:03.039 --> 02:13:05.840 to their room. So let the first discrepancy. 2629 02:13:06.279 --> 02:13:08.560 They weren't ordered up their room. The orders were in there. 2630 02:13:09.159 --> 02:13:12.000 He got that, he got that mixed up. But I'm 2631 02:13:12.000 --> 02:13:15.079 sure there's these little details along the way that that 2632 02:13:15.239 --> 02:13:19.000 might make Sid seem a little bit more crazy or 2633 02:13:19.000 --> 02:13:20.960 a little bit more of an instigator here that he 2634 02:13:21.560 --> 02:13:24.680 he recasts. You know, he's got curious details about things 2635 02:13:24.760 --> 02:13:26.520 like that, like who cares were the food? Like what 2636 02:13:26.600 --> 02:13:28.640 are you talking about. But I feel like it's got 2637 02:13:28.680 --> 02:13:31.439 to be self serving that the food is what brought 2638 02:13:31.479 --> 02:13:33.439 them upstairs instead of a disciplinary You. 2639 02:13:33.479 --> 02:13:36.600 Know, yes, crack of the way, because what did he do. 2640 02:13:36.840 --> 02:13:38.239 He was just out there to get his dinner. 2641 02:13:38.079 --> 02:13:40.199 Right exactly. They weren't sent up there because because he 2642 02:13:40.199 --> 02:13:41.000 already started shit. 2643 02:13:43.399 --> 02:13:45.920 Sids was on the opposite side of the hotel. Arne 2644 02:13:45.960 --> 02:13:48.119 did what he was told. Sid stopped at his room, 2645 02:13:48.600 --> 02:13:52.039 picked up a chair and carried it over to our corridor. 2646 02:13:52.840 --> 02:13:54.920 He was like a man possessed, like a wounded animal 2647 02:13:55.000 --> 02:13:58.760 that has found itself trapped, wounded by Arn's words, trapped 2648 02:13:58.760 --> 02:14:04.119 by their inscapable truth. Sid returned for revenge. This was 2649 02:14:04.199 --> 02:14:06.720 no longer the result of lips loosened by alcohol and 2650 02:14:06.800 --> 02:14:12.239 hurt feelings. This was a premeditated attack. Arn, whose barbs 2651 02:14:12.319 --> 02:14:16.920 can be biting, hit the bull's eye with his verbal assault. Sid, 2652 02:14:17.039 --> 02:14:20.640 incapable of countering, retaliated the only way he knew how. 2653 02:14:21.920 --> 02:14:24.439 Once Arn was lured into the hall, Sid was armed 2654 02:14:24.479 --> 02:14:28.640 for the ambush. The battering of Sid's chair against Arn's 2655 02:14:28.720 --> 02:14:32.720 door explained the power packed thumps that had vibrated the 2656 02:14:32.760 --> 02:14:36.920 walls of my room when the repeated pounding and talents continued. 2657 02:14:37.399 --> 02:14:40.079 Arn grabbed the only weapon he had with which to 2658 02:14:40.159 --> 02:14:44.479 protect himself, a pair of scissors from his grooming kites. 2659 02:14:46.720 --> 02:14:49.039 When he opened the door, Vicious cracked him over the 2660 02:14:49.079 --> 02:14:54.760 head with the chair. Why is a stop? Why is 2661 02:14:54.800 --> 02:14:59.279 it funny? Because it's like it's such an unnecessary thing 2662 02:14:59.399 --> 02:15:03.000 to do, you know, like it's such a wrestling thing. 2663 02:15:04.000 --> 02:15:06.800 You know, nobody fucking grabs a chair, knocks on a 2664 02:15:06.880 --> 02:15:08.680 door and smashes somebody with it. 2665 02:15:10.119 --> 02:15:10.439 Thank you. 2666 02:15:10.960 --> 02:15:13.279 That's what That's the kind of perspective I'm looking for, 2667 02:15:13.880 --> 02:15:16.640 you know, like nobody fucking does that. Like this guy 2668 02:15:16.800 --> 02:15:18.840 doesn't know the difference between a wrestling fight and a 2669 02:15:18.880 --> 02:15:20.960 real fight like he does. He'll hurt you, for real, 2670 02:15:21.119 --> 02:15:23.279 But some of the history onics in there will make 2671 02:15:23.319 --> 02:15:24.479 you wonder if it's a work. 2672 02:15:25.199 --> 02:15:27.520 Like you, if you're gonna hurt, if you're gonna fight somebody, 2673 02:15:27.600 --> 02:15:28.600 you just fucking fight them. 2674 02:15:28.680 --> 02:15:31.720 You know, you don't cut a promo, We're gonna finish this. 2675 02:15:32.079 --> 02:15:33.479 You don't make a big scene out of banging on 2676 02:15:33.600 --> 02:15:40.319 his door. Definitely don't go and get a squeegee. Such 2677 02:15:40.359 --> 02:15:40.840 a gimmick. 2678 02:15:40.920 --> 02:15:45.239 This guy, he's such a goof The two then wrestled 2679 02:15:45.279 --> 02:15:48.159 for control of the shears, stabbing each other as they 2680 02:15:48.279 --> 02:15:51.920 bounced off the walls. God, if you would scored the 2681 02:15:52.000 --> 02:15:55.279 fight from the gashes scarring both men's bodies, Sid would 2682 02:15:55.279 --> 02:15:58.359 be declared the winner. But judging from the sentiments expressed 2683 02:15:58.399 --> 02:16:01.560 by the wrestlers, it was a no contest. Arn was 2684 02:16:01.640 --> 02:16:04.560 the crowd favorite. Oh, it was no contest. Arn was 2685 02:16:04.560 --> 02:16:07.920 a crowd favorite. You'd have to know these two guys 2686 02:16:08.000 --> 02:16:11.279 to understand why Sid and Arn came from each other. 2687 02:16:11.399 --> 02:16:14.520 From places as far apart as can be, each views 2688 02:16:14.560 --> 02:16:18.000 the wrestling business from an entirely opposite perspective. The the 2689 02:16:18.079 --> 02:16:20.880 ease with which Sid came by a success had caused 2690 02:16:20.960 --> 02:16:23.920 him to show little appreciation for his position. For Arn, 2691 02:16:23.960 --> 02:16:25.960 on the other hand, it's a matter of pride. He 2692 02:16:26.039 --> 02:16:27.880 has worked long and hard to rise to the top 2693 02:16:27.920 --> 02:16:30.880 of his game. The respect he shows for his craft 2694 02:16:32.280 --> 02:16:35.639 has been formed by overcoming challenges Sid has never faced. 2695 02:16:36.920 --> 02:16:39.559 Sid is blessed with the genetics of Superman and the 2696 02:16:39.680 --> 02:16:43.239 luck of an irishman, but is shackled by the ignorance 2697 02:16:43.799 --> 02:16:48.760 and arrogance of a street tough hoodlum Wow. He has 2698 02:16:48.799 --> 02:16:51.520 been known to sit out bookings to play softball for 2699 02:16:51.639 --> 02:16:55.280 his hometown team. He thinks nothing of walking out on 2700 02:16:55.360 --> 02:17:04.200 a promotion without regard to contracts. Forget contracts, what about 2701 02:17:04.239 --> 02:17:07.280 doing what's right? What about professionalism? He has repeated these 2702 02:17:07.280 --> 02:17:10.200 stones time and again, believing he always will always be 2703 02:17:10.319 --> 02:17:14.399 hired back, and he usually is, despite the fact that 2704 02:17:14.520 --> 02:17:17.799 beyond his quote monster look, he is only a mediocre worker. 2705 02:17:18.639 --> 02:17:21.360 Sid has repeatedly been rewarded with headlining positions by the 2706 02:17:21.399 --> 02:17:25.040 promoters he screws. That has been his experience. Arn, on 2707 02:17:25.079 --> 02:17:27.559 the other hand, is of average stature and has made 2708 02:17:27.600 --> 02:17:29.920 his mark in the wrestling world not on appearance, but 2709 02:17:30.040 --> 02:17:34.200 by perfecting his ring work. His consistently solid performances, along 2710 02:17:34.239 --> 02:17:36.680 with the reputation as a team player, make up for 2711 02:17:36.799 --> 02:17:40.159 the monster look he does not and never can possess. 2712 02:17:41.079 --> 02:17:43.799 His interview skills are second to none. He has agreed 2713 02:17:43.840 --> 02:17:46.399 to take pay cuts instead of losing his position, yet 2714 02:17:46.520 --> 02:17:49.479 never short changes the promoters, or his co workers or 2715 02:17:49.600 --> 02:17:54.120 the fans. When a prima donna like Sid contentiously accuses 2716 02:17:54.159 --> 02:17:57.399 a dedicated loyalist like Arn of maintaining his position because 2717 02:17:57.399 --> 02:18:00.559 of patronage, there's bound to be a fight. It was 2718 02:18:00.639 --> 02:18:03.639 not surprising that the WCW and ww wrestlers who knew 2719 02:18:03.680 --> 02:18:07.520 both men were overwhelmingly in Arn's corner. The immediate reaction 2720 02:18:07.639 --> 02:18:10.000 of the boys on tour was one of sadness. There 2721 02:18:10.079 --> 02:18:13.639 was an outpouring of concern for Arne's health, as well 2722 02:18:13.760 --> 02:18:16.440 as uneasiness over how the fight in the press coverage 2723 02:18:16.639 --> 02:18:19.840 that followed might affect his position with the company. As 2724 02:18:20.000 --> 02:18:22.319 was often the case, some of the guys found humor 2725 02:18:22.399 --> 02:18:24.440 in what it may had happened. Maybe it was their 2726 02:18:24.479 --> 02:18:29.280 way of coping. Perhaps it's a callousness, a callousness, lousness, 2727 02:18:29.840 --> 02:18:33.239 no callousness. Sorry, it's a repeated wordigan as a callousness 2728 02:18:33.360 --> 02:18:37.399 developed from being exposed to so much lunacy day in 2729 02:18:38.079 --> 02:18:41.639 and day out. It only took hours from Mark Merrow 2730 02:18:41.680 --> 02:18:44.680 and Mark Bagwell to commemorate the incident with a Muhammad 2731 02:18:44.680 --> 02:18:47.600 al Li style poem, as delivered by Marrow and his 2732 02:18:47.680 --> 02:18:51.120 best little Richard impersonation. When I'm in the shower, I'm 2733 02:18:51.159 --> 02:18:54.040 afraid to wash my hair. I might open my eyes 2734 02:18:54.079 --> 02:18:59.799 and Psychocid will be standing there in his fucking shower shoes. Yeah, 2735 02:19:00.200 --> 02:19:02.840 some people think I'm crazy, maybe a little touched, But 2736 02:19:03.000 --> 02:19:07.319 showers remind me of Sid Vicious too much. When I 2737 02:19:07.360 --> 02:19:09.280 opened the door, he hit me with a chair. I said, 2738 02:19:09.319 --> 02:19:12.120 Sid Vicious, you know that isn't fair. So I got 2739 02:19:12.120 --> 02:19:13.920 a pair of scissors and stabbed him in the gut. 2740 02:19:14.280 --> 02:19:16.639 You should have seen Sid Vicious bleed from the cut. 2741 02:19:17.360 --> 02:19:19.879 He staggered and stumbled, and down the hall he fell. 2742 02:19:20.440 --> 02:19:22.879 How can you rule the world when you can't even 2743 02:19:22.959 --> 02:19:26.719 rule the hotel? The buzz around the locker room lasted 2744 02:19:26.760 --> 02:19:30.799 for months. The buzz from ringside observers continues to this day. 2745 02:19:31.040 --> 02:19:35.120 So all that said, what a sid side of the 2746 02:19:35.520 --> 02:19:38.079 stabbing incident's story? What does the psycho one have to say? 2747 02:19:38.159 --> 02:19:38.440 Boss? 2748 02:19:39.399 --> 02:19:44.879 I didn't do anything. I had nothing to do with 2749 02:19:45.120 --> 02:19:47.040 anything happened to do with Hart Anderson. 2750 02:19:47.559 --> 02:19:48.319 You be the judge. 2751 02:19:48.680 --> 02:19:50.520 You hear words from the man himself in a series 2752 02:19:50.559 --> 02:19:52.639 of shoot interviews, and you tell us if that's basically 2753 02:19:52.680 --> 02:19:55.440 what it amounts to what he says? So is it 2754 02:19:55.879 --> 02:19:58.760 pertains the question? What sid side of the stabbing story? 2755 02:19:59.319 --> 02:20:00.559 Let's take a few dabs at it? 2756 02:20:00.600 --> 02:20:01.120 What do you say? 2757 02:20:01.920 --> 02:20:06.479 Let's do it exactly what happened? We were in a 2758 02:20:06.559 --> 02:20:12.120 board and I just wait you some food. 2759 02:20:13.000 --> 02:20:16.639 We're all on the table drinking, and somebody brought the 2760 02:20:16.719 --> 02:20:21.040 question and I think asked on a question, what's wrong 2761 02:20:21.079 --> 02:20:22.559 in our business while we're drawing? 2762 02:20:22.879 --> 02:20:23.760 Like the other company? 2763 02:20:23.920 --> 02:20:27.760 Is that the one thing about me is man, I mean, 2764 02:20:29.120 --> 02:20:30.879 if you can't be honest, you can be honest with 2765 02:20:30.959 --> 02:20:33.799 me because you can't hurt my feelings because I'll just say, man, 2766 02:20:33.879 --> 02:20:34.440 it's not true. 2767 02:20:34.559 --> 02:20:35.040 I am better. 2768 02:20:35.120 --> 02:20:37.879 What do you think there can't hurt his feelings? 2769 02:20:37.920 --> 02:20:40.879 Okay, okay, yeah, And that's a great that's a great 2770 02:20:40.959 --> 02:20:43.239 question to ask, you know, like why is our business down? 2771 02:20:43.799 --> 02:20:44.040 Sure? 2772 02:20:44.319 --> 02:20:47.159 Sure, because I'm sure the answer will be, well, it 2773 02:20:47.200 --> 02:20:49.479 won't cause any fights at all, of course. 2774 02:20:50.000 --> 02:20:51.920 But what I thought I was wrong with the business. 2775 02:20:51.959 --> 02:20:53.639 And that's what I said. It's what I'm saying. I said, well, 2776 02:20:53.680 --> 02:20:56.239 it's our business. We get a fucking old man named 2777 02:20:56.280 --> 02:20:58.280 Ric Flair. Need to get the fuck out of way. 2778 02:20:58.959 --> 02:21:01.799 Listen to guys. The thing about the business is that 2779 02:21:02.479 --> 02:21:05.959 why you have to, you know, revolve talent because people 2780 02:21:06.040 --> 02:21:07.000 do get burned out. 2781 02:21:07.159 --> 02:21:08.719 And I think that's proven. 2782 02:21:09.239 --> 02:21:12.239 I mean I think that was proven there the fact 2783 02:21:12.280 --> 02:21:14.520 that they're released for him to go to w W 2784 02:21:14.680 --> 02:21:16.920 F you they never thought that would have ever happened, 2785 02:21:17.280 --> 02:21:18.799 but it did and now you know. 2786 02:21:19.399 --> 02:21:21.959 But anyway, so we get to start the argument. 2787 02:21:22.360 --> 02:21:24.079 I had a question, real quick, boss, can you help 2788 02:21:24.120 --> 02:21:24.399 me with this? 2789 02:21:25.000 --> 02:21:25.200 Yes? 2790 02:21:25.479 --> 02:21:28.520 What would w CW have done if they agreed with 2791 02:21:28.680 --> 02:21:31.639 Sid and stuck with his dumb ass and then Stargate 2792 02:21:31.680 --> 02:21:36.920 happened and they had no main event? Having Rick Flair 2793 02:21:36.920 --> 02:21:39.040 around then seemed to make a lot of sense, didn't it. 2794 02:21:40.040 --> 02:21:44.159 Let's go with Sid's version so that we don't hire 2795 02:21:44.239 --> 02:21:46.040 Ric Flair, the only guy who can save our ass 2796 02:21:46.120 --> 02:21:46.559 on this show. 2797 02:21:46.680 --> 02:21:49.600 Yeah, no, I think you don't. And I think what 2798 02:21:49.799 --> 02:21:54.920 happens is despite despite getting you know, stab and stabbing 2799 02:21:55.079 --> 02:21:59.840 and doing all sorts and having a completely unnecessary and 2800 02:22:00.920 --> 02:22:07.440 completely inappropriate fight, Sid main events Starcade ninety three by 2801 02:22:07.520 --> 02:22:11.760 himself is what happens, and he faces himself for the title, 2802 02:22:12.840 --> 02:22:13.399 and then. 2803 02:22:14.760 --> 02:22:18.079 We got the little, you know, verbal argument, and I 2804 02:22:18.159 --> 02:22:20.520 think he's shung beers in my face in the bar, 2805 02:22:21.719 --> 02:22:23.559 and then as I was going into my room. 2806 02:22:24.760 --> 02:22:27.719 I think, do you think is he is? I swear 2807 02:22:27.760 --> 02:22:34.200 to god, it sounds like he's like chewing dip no tobacco. 2808 02:22:34.799 --> 02:22:37.040 This is nineteen ninety seven R video shoot, and I've 2809 02:22:37.079 --> 02:22:38.639 seen the video of it. It doesn't seem that way 2810 02:22:38.680 --> 02:22:39.360 when you watch it, but. 2811 02:22:39.399 --> 02:22:41.760 All right, all right, it definitely sounds like he is 2812 02:22:42.879 --> 02:22:45.760 he's dipping. It's either that or he sounds like someone 2813 02:22:45.799 --> 02:22:48.799 who would dip. Do you know what I mean? Someone 2814 02:22:48.799 --> 02:22:50.479 who sounds like in and out every now and again. 2815 02:22:50.520 --> 02:22:53.840 Yeah, yeah, he does dip. The story of his life 2816 02:22:53.920 --> 02:22:57.639 the dip man. I love that phraseology. I think Arn 2817 02:22:57.719 --> 02:23:01.799 threw a beer at me. Yeah, like he's he's trying. 2818 02:23:01.840 --> 02:23:03.719 I think to say somethings along the way that make 2819 02:23:03.760 --> 02:23:04.920 an Arn's fault, even. 2820 02:23:04.760 --> 02:23:08.719 If, of course or fault, no question. 2821 02:23:08.879 --> 02:23:10.600 I mean, would you forget in a situation like this, 2822 02:23:10.719 --> 02:23:12.479 if someone never would be never to start. 2823 02:23:12.399 --> 02:23:14.600 I don't care how fucking drunk you are, exactly, you 2824 02:23:14.680 --> 02:23:15.959 don't forget this kind of ship. 2825 02:23:16.319 --> 02:23:19.200 Bunch of guys were in the hallway and he broke 2826 02:23:19.239 --> 02:23:22.319 a beer bottle and threatened to cut me. Then in 2827 02:23:22.399 --> 02:23:24.479 my room was only just a few rooms down for him. 2828 02:23:24.600 --> 02:23:26.959 Like I came past his room, took the left, four 2829 02:23:27.040 --> 02:23:30.000 doors was my room, you know, Like we got in 2830 02:23:30.040 --> 02:23:31.079 there there what food was? 2831 02:23:32.040 --> 02:23:34.559 So sid has introduced this fact that we did not 2832 02:23:34.639 --> 02:23:36.920 hear from two cold Scorpio, that we did not hear 2833 02:23:37.360 --> 02:23:39.639 from a Gary Michael capetto which, in all fairness, you know, 2834 02:23:39.719 --> 02:23:42.280 they don't claim to be eyewitnesses from the very from 2835 02:23:42.319 --> 02:23:47.000 the very inception of the confrontation on the hotel floor. 2836 02:23:47.280 --> 02:23:49.840 But Sid just added that Arn threatened him with a 2837 02:23:49.879 --> 02:23:52.799 broken off beer bottle, which I've never heard. I heard 2838 02:23:52.879 --> 02:23:55.520 Arn was in his room and Sid goes to the door. 2839 02:23:55.559 --> 02:23:57.879 But okay, we'll grant that for the psychoed one. 2840 02:23:59.399 --> 02:24:02.079 What's that to say, no, no, he's he's absolutely right, 2841 02:24:02.159 --> 02:24:05.280 there's I mean, I also heard that that there were 2842 02:24:05.280 --> 02:24:11.479 a couple uh uh hotel employees who were you know, 2843 02:24:11.600 --> 02:24:15.840 holding him hostage with bows and arrows as well at 2844 02:24:15.959 --> 02:24:17.920 arrow point, yes, exactly. 2845 02:24:17.799 --> 02:24:19.399 Going to the bar, but actually came to my room, 2846 02:24:19.440 --> 02:24:20.760 I said, being part of the sandwiches. 2847 02:24:21.479 --> 02:24:23.239 So talking about the sandwiches and where the food went, 2848 02:24:24.399 --> 02:24:28.680 that's a fucking relevant detail. Sandwiches are crucial to the 2849 02:24:28.719 --> 02:24:30.440 store in the room, they're not at the bar. 2850 02:24:31.319 --> 02:24:33.680 I said, Man, it's not sucking, you know, I mean, 2851 02:24:33.719 --> 02:24:34.639 I've got a bad temper. 2852 02:24:34.719 --> 02:24:37.159 Two said, he just fucking stripped me from bear in 2853 02:24:37.200 --> 02:24:38.719 my face and then just fucking treated me with a 2854 02:24:39.000 --> 02:24:44.559 beer bottle broken I said, all fucking line. So there's 2855 02:24:44.559 --> 02:24:46.879 a chair, it's like that, but you're not the leg 2856 02:24:46.920 --> 02:24:48.600 off I was whacking star. 2857 02:24:48.719 --> 02:24:51.399 We had a couple of times who instead of just 2858 02:24:51.440 --> 02:24:54.319 swinging the chair, breaks the leg off of it. 2859 02:24:55.840 --> 02:24:59.440 Well, you know you you you want to You want 2860 02:24:59.479 --> 02:25:01.319 to break the leg GoF of it for sure? Why 2861 02:25:01.719 --> 02:25:04.399 because then you have the sharp wood so you can 2862 02:25:04.479 --> 02:25:08.280 stab him right exactly. But obviously you want to take 2863 02:25:08.319 --> 02:25:11.440 the time and the energy when you're in the midst 2864 02:25:11.479 --> 02:25:14.399 of preparing for battle in order to. 2865 02:25:17.280 --> 02:25:19.879 And then somehow argue that this wasn't premeditated, even though 2866 02:25:19.920 --> 02:25:22.319 you went to the trouble of manufacturing an items that 2867 02:25:22.440 --> 02:25:22.920 can stab. 2868 02:25:24.000 --> 02:25:27.600 I will say this regarding said, there is nothing within 2869 02:25:27.719 --> 02:25:31.879 him that says he studies any sort of meditation whatsoever. 2870 02:25:33.040 --> 02:25:34.680 So when I got back down, there was no one 2871 02:25:34.719 --> 02:25:38.040 in the hallway because do worship. So I knocked on 2872 02:25:38.120 --> 02:25:38.840 the door. I said, come on. 2873 02:25:38.879 --> 02:25:41.000 Out here, motherfucker, you bring your here about it? 2874 02:25:41.079 --> 02:25:44.040 Whatever some words are exchange I could want of hearing 2875 02:25:45.079 --> 02:25:48.239 I heard even falling around still around of thought. I said, 2876 02:25:48.399 --> 02:25:51.440 he's fucked up as bad as I am, you know, 2877 02:25:51.760 --> 02:25:54.239 and down get to realize what I was doing, I said, 2878 02:25:54.280 --> 02:25:55.360 This is fucking stupid. 2879 02:25:58.600 --> 02:26:03.159 You can uh incoming alibi ready to tell when he 2880 02:26:03.200 --> 02:26:04.799 takes that kind of a pregnant pause. 2881 02:26:05.200 --> 02:26:09.799 Look at the records that the police had. The stick 2882 02:26:09.840 --> 02:26:11.319 that he says I hit him with, was he never 2883 02:26:11.399 --> 02:26:14.840 touched him? Was twenty feet the opposite way of where 2884 02:26:14.879 --> 02:26:15.680 the fight happened. 2885 02:26:16.399 --> 02:26:20.680 Now, okay, what he says that the stick that Arn 2886 02:26:20.959 --> 02:26:23.200 would claim later that he attacked him with from the chair, 2887 02:26:23.520 --> 02:26:25.520 that he never touched on with the stick, And in fact, 2888 02:26:26.079 --> 02:26:28.159 for some reason, he doesn't want to say why the 2889 02:26:28.200 --> 02:26:30.559 stick was twenty feet from where the fight actually unfolded. 2890 02:26:31.000 --> 02:26:35.440 Well, because I mean, couldn't someone have thrown it? Yes, 2891 02:26:35.440 --> 02:26:37.520 it's a not a potential you know, reality there. 2892 02:26:37.559 --> 02:26:42.959 I mean, you know, I'm no professional estimator, but twenty 2893 02:26:43.040 --> 02:26:44.239 feet it's not that. 2894 02:26:44.360 --> 02:26:45.440 Far from the city. 2895 02:26:45.559 --> 02:26:49.799 Not, I mean, that's an easy throw for sure, you know. 2896 02:26:50.639 --> 02:26:52.719 And he wants us to look at the police records. Okay, yeah, 2897 02:26:52.920 --> 02:26:55.040 let me go over to what is it, the Blackwell, 2898 02:26:55.120 --> 02:26:57.280 England Police Department and pull those real quick. 2899 02:26:57.600 --> 02:26:59.639 I mean, I'm I'm actually disappointed that you didn't do it. 2900 02:27:00.200 --> 02:27:01.840 Don't fucking don't don't come with that. 2901 02:27:03.520 --> 02:27:05.559 One drop of blood, one dinner. 2902 02:27:05.680 --> 02:27:08.959 It would have been hit or nothing. And I went 2903 02:27:09.000 --> 02:27:11.840 to the rest of it, so arnt come out? I left, turned, 2904 02:27:12.360 --> 02:27:14.719 turned my back in the door open. I turned around. 2905 02:27:14.760 --> 02:27:17.399 Aren't sitting near a pair of scissors? And I went 2906 02:27:17.600 --> 02:27:19.479 just like this as a man. Hey, this is called 2907 02:27:19.520 --> 02:27:23.159 to fucking far. And then I remember coming after me, 2908 02:27:23.399 --> 02:27:25.079 all right, So he coming after me. I don't really 2909 02:27:25.079 --> 02:27:30.799 remember getting stabbed in the in the beginning. And he 2910 02:27:31.120 --> 02:27:34.079 were in some two doors in the corridor, and he 2911 02:27:34.319 --> 02:27:36.280 backed me up there and I had nowhere to fucking run. 2912 02:27:37.040 --> 02:27:39.000 And when he came into me, he got close to me. 2913 02:27:39.079 --> 02:27:41.840 When he did, I think any one time, and he 2914 02:27:41.959 --> 02:27:47.120 fell down like at my feet. When he did, I 2915 02:27:47.200 --> 02:27:49.600 looked at him, and then now the corner of my eye, 2916 02:27:49.600 --> 02:27:51.600 I saw the scissors fall. They were falling out of 2917 02:27:51.680 --> 02:27:55.040 my stomach, and I got the scar right there. So 2918 02:27:55.360 --> 02:27:57.200 when I saw the scissors fall, and now I realized 2919 02:27:57.239 --> 02:27:59.639 I've been stabbed, But I didn't feel it in my 2920 02:27:59.719 --> 02:28:02.959 face in my hands. Then he launched back for him 2921 02:28:03.000 --> 02:28:05.520 a second time, and the face are gon first. 2922 02:28:06.600 --> 02:28:10.040 Okay, so why would you feel it in his face 2923 02:28:10.079 --> 02:28:13.200 in his hands? He got stabbed on his face in 2924 02:28:13.280 --> 02:28:15.159 his hands as well as oh he did got Yeah, 2925 02:28:15.159 --> 02:28:17.639 he had scrapes and cruising for sure. 2926 02:28:18.440 --> 02:28:20.200 He says, I stabbed in my cup. I didn't feel 2927 02:28:20.200 --> 02:28:22.799 it my face in my hands, like, yeah, because you 2928 02:28:22.840 --> 02:28:24.719 didn't get stabbed there, but I guess he did. Yeah. 2929 02:28:24.760 --> 02:28:26.399 Later he would find that he had those wounds, but 2930 02:28:26.520 --> 02:28:29.239 you know they're not They weren't as obvious to him. 2931 02:28:29.600 --> 02:28:32.040 So his thing is he just clubbed Arn. Basically, he 2932 02:28:32.120 --> 02:28:34.600 fell and the scissors fell, and then the franks before 2933 02:28:34.639 --> 02:28:37.479 he clubbed him, he Sid got Arn got some shots in, 2934 02:28:37.639 --> 02:28:40.399 some stabs in really that he didn't realize, and the 2935 02:28:40.600 --> 02:28:43.280 scissors fall out of Sid's stomach, and then Arn goes 2936 02:28:43.360 --> 02:28:46.600 to grab him again and Sid gets the scissors away. Now, 2937 02:28:49.000 --> 02:28:51.079 I mean, obviously it's who knows what we would do 2938 02:28:51.159 --> 02:28:54.280 in a situation like that. But if I came into 2939 02:28:54.319 --> 02:28:56.520 the confrontation thinking this has gone too far, you have 2940 02:28:56.600 --> 02:28:59.360 scissors in your hand, and then he goes ahead and 2941 02:28:59.479 --> 02:29:01.719 proves that, and then I get control of the scissors, 2942 02:29:01.760 --> 02:29:03.200 and he's so drunk that I didn't even think it 2943 02:29:03.239 --> 02:29:04.520 was worth fighting him in the first place. 2944 02:29:05.000 --> 02:29:05.319 I don't know. 2945 02:29:05.399 --> 02:29:08.120 I'd like to tell myself that my first thought wouldn't 2946 02:29:08.120 --> 02:29:09.719 be can I stab this guy forty five. 2947 02:29:09.719 --> 02:29:10.760 Times in return? 2948 02:29:11.760 --> 02:29:15.239 It doesn't it It seems like, you know, the fact pattern, 2949 02:29:15.239 --> 02:29:17.000 even though I'm hurt, is kind of in my favor 2950 02:29:17.040 --> 02:29:18.719 at this point. And if I do that, then all 2951 02:29:18.719 --> 02:29:21.760 of a sudden, I'm the problem. But we'll see, yeah, 2952 02:29:21.760 --> 02:29:22.000 I don't. 2953 02:29:22.120 --> 02:29:28.159 Yeah, and then I don't. Happened so fast, there's like 2954 02:29:28.280 --> 02:29:31.319 a nightmare, you know, And I remember. 2955 02:29:33.120 --> 02:29:36.920 I think somebody said him or somebody Walton Hollis made 2956 02:29:36.920 --> 02:29:40.440 her killing me, killing me or something, and I had 2957 02:29:40.479 --> 02:29:41.479 the scissors in my hand. 2958 02:29:42.760 --> 02:29:45.479 Ah, so he went completely blank and was actually stabbing 2959 02:29:45.600 --> 02:29:46.000 you catch that? 2960 02:29:46.120 --> 02:29:46.280 Ah? 2961 02:29:46.440 --> 02:29:46.600 Yes? 2962 02:29:46.760 --> 02:29:52.479 The uh the momentary lapse of sanity. 2963 02:29:52.280 --> 02:29:54.399 That's right, Yeah, which can be a criminal defense. You know, 2964 02:29:54.440 --> 02:29:56.920 if you argue that in the time that you actually 2965 02:29:57.159 --> 02:30:01.840 began the fatal attack, you you were basically and incapable 2966 02:30:01.879 --> 02:30:04.079 of rendering a decision as to what it was you 2967 02:30:04.159 --> 02:30:07.280 were doing, that that can be you know, it's called 2968 02:30:07.319 --> 02:30:08.319 the insanity defense. 2969 02:30:08.399 --> 02:30:08.840 Sometimes. 2970 02:30:08.920 --> 02:30:12.840 Yes it's fake, right, but it's it's less about insanity 2971 02:30:12.920 --> 02:30:14.639 and about whether in that moment you were in a 2972 02:30:14.719 --> 02:30:17.399 state of mind to form the intent to hurt somebody. 2973 02:30:17.680 --> 02:30:20.159 Doesn't mean you you're going to get acquitted for sure, 2974 02:30:20.479 --> 02:30:22.719 but it might make the difference between murder one, you 2975 02:30:22.760 --> 02:30:24.440 know what I mean, murder two or manslaughter. 2976 02:30:24.639 --> 02:30:27.680 Right. I looked down and I saw him, A fuck, 2977 02:30:28.719 --> 02:30:30.959 he's fucked up. So I threw the fucking scissors as 2978 02:30:31.000 --> 02:30:33.280 far as I could. I've been to him to actually 2979 02:30:33.319 --> 02:30:35.000 trying to pick him up and hauling. 2980 02:30:35.520 --> 02:30:39.159 Throw the scissors as far as you threw the chair leg. Yeah, 2981 02:30:39.479 --> 02:30:41.719 what I would love it if he said I threw 2982 02:30:41.959 --> 02:30:45.120 I threw. I threw the scissors forty feet away from me, 2983 02:30:46.079 --> 02:30:49.799 and then he's questioning twenty feet for the fucking chair leg. 2984 02:30:49.920 --> 02:30:51.639 So what I did, Sean, And you know this because 2985 02:30:51.680 --> 02:30:53.719 we talked about my football careers. I got my hands 2986 02:30:53.760 --> 02:30:55.079 on the scissors and then I fell back in the 2987 02:30:55.120 --> 02:30:59.959 pocket A I scrambled from about the twenty to the fifteen, 2988 02:31:00.040 --> 02:31:03.079 and A launched downfield where the intended receiver was the 2989 02:31:03.159 --> 02:31:05.319 recipient of a pass interference call. 2990 02:31:06.239 --> 02:31:08.840 Fucking So I danced to call An when I did 2991 02:31:09.360 --> 02:31:12.600 blood concussion on my stomach. Now I realized I've been stabbed, 2992 02:31:12.600 --> 02:31:14.520 So I'm scared to fucking that all white on. 2993 02:31:15.360 --> 02:31:21.399 Wait a minute, now, he's saying he's now realizing he'd 2994 02:31:21.440 --> 02:31:26.319 been stabbed right, Yes, yes, didn't he say before that 2995 02:31:26.559 --> 02:31:28.920 he saw that the scissors fall out of the side 2996 02:31:28.959 --> 02:31:34.559 of his body before he started stabbing Ron, Well, you're 2997 02:31:34.639 --> 02:31:38.200 forgetting that the scissors can run. Well, I'm not questioning 2998 02:31:38.239 --> 02:31:40.719 the position of the scissors. I'm questioning him saying. 2999 02:31:41.440 --> 02:31:43.959 As scissors move all over the place, they they are 3000 02:31:44.040 --> 02:31:46.040 like it's like a toy story. 3001 02:31:48.799 --> 02:31:51.360 I mean, this is a horrible situation, but I do 3002 02:31:51.479 --> 02:31:54.079 feel that these are important details. I mean, listen, he 3003 02:31:54.239 --> 02:31:58.040 just claimed to realize he'd been stabbed in two different 3004 02:31:58.079 --> 02:31:59.639 moments apart from each other. 3005 02:32:00.000 --> 02:32:05.159 Here's the thing about Sid. Okay, honestly, he shouldn't have 3006 02:32:05.239 --> 02:32:08.200 been called Sid vicious. He should have been Sid victim 3007 02:32:10.799 --> 02:32:11.799 because that's what he is. 3008 02:32:12.680 --> 02:32:15.000 He's a la fan wrestling podcast. 3009 02:32:32.360 --> 02:32:35.680 He's the Lapsed Fan Wrestling podcast with Jack and for 3010 02:32:35.760 --> 02:32:38.159 An Seo and JP Sorrow. 3011 02:32:38.280 --> 02:32:41.120 On the fucking Hallway and then the rest of the rest. 3012 02:32:41.840 --> 02:32:44.200 These are some other things that people don't know. We 3013 02:32:44.319 --> 02:32:48.520 were supposed to be flowing different flights back, putting different hotels. 3014 02:32:49.239 --> 02:32:50.120 When I was in the hotel. 3015 02:32:50.360 --> 02:32:54.120 When I was in the hospital, the police or whatever 3016 02:32:54.159 --> 02:32:56.559 you call it, law enforcement over there, they came in 3017 02:32:56.680 --> 02:32:59.079 my room, trying to get in a press charges against him, 3018 02:32:59.600 --> 02:33:02.479 and said, no, man, I looking press charges against him. 3019 02:33:02.680 --> 02:33:05.920 I said, you know, we're both you know, made mistake 3020 02:33:06.200 --> 02:33:09.159 of you know, I don't know how bad he's really hurt. 3021 02:33:09.200 --> 02:33:11.559 You know, I really didn't. That's why you feel it 3022 02:33:11.680 --> 02:33:14.959 was not they don't have one scratch on him, you're 3023 02:33:15.000 --> 02:33:18.639 not exports towards surgery already have that stabs him. I said, 3024 02:33:18.639 --> 02:33:22.200 he's not going to scratch on him. And I thought maybe, 3025 02:33:22.440 --> 02:33:24.559 Like I said, that happened so fast. I really don't 3026 02:33:24.559 --> 02:33:29.280 Rember happy this motherfucker. So I was going to press 3027 02:33:29.360 --> 02:33:33.719 charges on him, and then, uh, then that night the 3028 02:33:33.799 --> 02:33:36.120 nurse came over to my room, he said, and you 3029 02:33:36.239 --> 02:33:37.639 finished really messed up. 3030 02:33:38.600 --> 02:33:45.879 Okay, So the police, who want, for some reason said 3031 02:33:45.959 --> 02:33:49.319 to press charges against Arn, tell him that Arn doesn't 3032 02:33:49.319 --> 02:33:51.479 have a scratch on him, and then a nurse comes 3033 02:33:51.520 --> 02:33:53.840 by later and says, your your your friend isn't doing 3034 02:33:53.879 --> 02:33:57.079 too good. Why he would get two different versions of 3035 02:33:57.200 --> 02:33:58.600 Arn Anderson's condition, I don't know. 3036 02:33:58.719 --> 02:33:59.680 I've never understood. 3037 02:34:00.040 --> 02:34:02.120 I don't even understand why it's self serving to kind 3038 02:34:02.159 --> 02:34:04.159 of frame it that way. Sometimes I think of it 3039 02:34:04.239 --> 02:34:06.799 that way. Yeah, I mean is the guy okay or not? 3040 02:34:07.440 --> 02:34:07.799 I don't know. 3041 02:34:09.639 --> 02:34:11.639 And there a new place where why are Yeah? So 3042 02:34:11.760 --> 02:34:15.360 I dropped the charges. All right, Now we get to 3043 02:34:15.440 --> 02:34:17.719 go home. I found him in the hotel by myself. 3044 02:34:18.680 --> 02:34:22.440 I go to they on Leaves's boots at the hospital. 3045 02:34:22.840 --> 02:34:25.399 So I took him with me to get him down 3046 02:34:25.440 --> 02:34:26.200 the road somewhere. 3047 02:34:26.319 --> 02:34:26.520 Yeah. 3048 02:34:27.840 --> 02:34:29.440 I found out that he was at the same hotel 3049 02:34:29.520 --> 02:34:31.799 as that, So I just left him at the front 3050 02:34:31.879 --> 02:34:35.600 desk and assumed you did these darn Andersons. 3051 02:34:35.159 --> 02:34:38.319 And then took out a nine millimeter and started shooting 3052 02:34:38.360 --> 02:34:39.840 out the chandeliers. 3053 02:34:41.479 --> 02:34:43.559 Just all of a sudden, like took out a pair 3054 02:34:43.559 --> 02:34:48.399 of boozies and just started fucking just overturning like catering trays. 3055 02:34:48.440 --> 02:34:55.840 And just think of Sid. Okay, think of Sid holding 3056 02:34:56.520 --> 02:35:02.479 a pair of automatic weapons and just going bonkers with it. 3057 02:35:02.639 --> 02:35:05.840 It's it's cinematic. I will say that. I can see 3058 02:35:05.879 --> 02:35:10.920 it right now. Yeah, like his face, you know, just 3059 02:35:11.000 --> 02:35:16.520 like with like a like a military green vest on 3060 02:35:16.639 --> 02:35:20.200 but no shirt underneath. Yeah, yeah, oh absolutely, listen, he's yeah, 3061 02:35:20.399 --> 02:35:22.159 he looks like he does on the cover of the 3062 02:35:22.920 --> 02:35:26.879 the ninety one War Games. Uh vhs. I knew that 3063 02:35:26.959 --> 02:35:29.000 picture was crystal cleared in my mind for some reason. 3064 02:35:29.120 --> 02:35:33.040 Yeah, yeah, So I went to a machine drink kildrink 3065 02:35:33.479 --> 02:35:34.159 poke or something. 3066 02:35:36.200 --> 02:35:40.000 What what's the specify that he didn't go get booze? 3067 02:35:40.000 --> 02:35:44.200 I guess. But then he says, my godkers, you're gonna 3068 02:35:44.239 --> 02:35:46.319 be in this with that? You said, no, seriously, right? 3069 02:35:46.399 --> 02:35:47.799 Did you get you have a snack too? Did you 3070 02:35:47.840 --> 02:35:49.920 get a can? Did you go down to seven eleven 3071 02:35:49.959 --> 02:35:50.760 and get a can of ease? 3072 02:35:52.200 --> 02:36:01.920 There? I'm sorry. With all the people in the world, 3073 02:36:02.200 --> 02:36:04.840 Arm was the last person I wanted. I wouldn't want 3074 02:36:04.840 --> 02:36:05.200 to do that to. 3075 02:36:05.200 --> 02:36:08.239 Anybody because I had to, but I did not want 3076 02:36:08.399 --> 02:36:09.760 He would have been the last person in the world 3077 02:36:09.799 --> 02:36:13.120 about because he had only been good to me as 3078 02:36:13.159 --> 02:36:14.959 a person. I don't know what anybody said every behind 3079 02:36:15.000 --> 02:36:17.719 my back, face to face. He was always a gentleman, 3080 02:36:17.879 --> 02:36:19.959 and I can only assume he was like that at 3081 02:36:19.959 --> 02:36:20.399 all the time. 3082 02:36:20.959 --> 02:36:21.600 I don't like that. 3083 02:36:22.239 --> 02:36:24.959 So I said, well, where does ARM say? And Joey 3084 02:36:25.000 --> 02:36:26.639 said that Arm said he was so fucked up they 3085 02:36:26.639 --> 02:36:32.319 can't remember anything, And so that's you know, the true story, 3086 02:36:32.360 --> 02:36:34.639 all right? If Joey magg says, that's not that he's 3087 02:36:34.639 --> 02:36:37.440 a fucking line, and I'll remember those words. 3088 02:36:37.920 --> 02:36:40.319 I'm not sure where Joey Maggs's version of the story 3089 02:36:40.440 --> 02:36:42.639 is printed, but I know we kind of need that. 3090 02:36:42.920 --> 02:36:45.159 He's going out of his way to talk about Joey 3091 02:36:45.239 --> 02:36:46.479 Maggs and I don't know why. 3092 02:36:46.479 --> 02:36:48.200 But oh, he's got the truth. 3093 02:36:49.479 --> 02:36:52.520 Exactly. I mean, we're both pretty messed up, you know, 3094 02:36:53.200 --> 02:36:56.879 to the point that they got like that. Everybody was 3095 02:36:56.879 --> 02:36:59.680 I'm not a drinker. I don't drink much. They didn't 3096 02:36:59.680 --> 02:37:01.000 take a lot of alcohol to get me. 3097 02:37:00.959 --> 02:37:05.680 Into a state of or whatever. We can remember it, 3098 02:37:06.559 --> 02:37:08.120 but that's pretty much how it happened. 3099 02:37:10.079 --> 02:37:14.639 Thoughts. I see no holes in his stories whatsoever. He 3100 02:37:14.719 --> 02:37:17.879 could excellent. I'm glad we agree on that. It's about 3101 02:37:17.879 --> 02:37:19.639 as iron clad as you can fucking get. 3102 02:37:21.319 --> 02:37:24.840 I mean, I think one thing we can we can conclude. 3103 02:37:24.399 --> 02:37:28.040 About he's more iron clad than iron Mike Sharp. 3104 02:37:28.280 --> 02:37:31.879 And that's saying something. I think one thing we can 3105 02:37:31.920 --> 02:37:34.159 say for sure about the man after that that version 3106 02:37:34.239 --> 02:37:37.719 is if there's something, if there's a situation where you 3107 02:37:37.799 --> 02:37:39.719 know there's tension in the air and you just have 3108 02:37:39.840 --> 02:37:42.639 to make that one remark that will set the other 3109 02:37:42.719 --> 02:37:45.440 guy off. Sid is the guy that will always make. 3110 02:37:45.319 --> 02:37:48.319 That remark oh yeah, oh yeah. And you know what, 3111 02:37:48.520 --> 02:37:51.000 I don't think he even consciously knows it can't help. 3112 02:37:51.000 --> 02:37:53.239 But exactly, I think it's just like a thing like 3113 02:37:53.319 --> 02:37:55.799 he just this is how he needs to respond, and 3114 02:37:56.120 --> 02:37:59.239 you know what, this is the truth. Yep, exactly, this 3115 02:37:59.440 --> 02:37:59.920 is the true. 3116 02:38:00.200 --> 02:38:01.799 It's really funny you say that, because later on in 3117 02:38:01.879 --> 02:38:04.799 his career he would talk a lot about how he 3118 02:38:04.799 --> 02:38:07.079 would want WWF to talk to his lawyer to negotiate, 3119 02:38:07.159 --> 02:38:08.959 because he's like, you know what's gonna happen if you 3120 02:38:09.040 --> 02:38:11.479 deal directly with me. I'm eventually gonna get pissed off. 3121 02:38:11.680 --> 02:38:13.559 I'm gonna say something that's gonna piss you off, and 3122 02:38:13.559 --> 02:38:14.959 the whole thing's going to blow up, and I'm gonna 3123 02:38:14.959 --> 02:38:16.840 be the bad run. So he knows that about himself. 3124 02:38:16.879 --> 02:38:19.680 He knows he can't help it, and that's probably why 3125 02:38:19.719 --> 02:38:22.000 there was blood all over this hotel Halloween English. 3126 02:38:22.000 --> 02:38:24.479 He knows that he just can't help but tell the truth. 3127 02:38:25.159 --> 02:38:28.159 So let's do some comparison. He would revisit the story 3128 02:38:28.360 --> 02:38:30.559 that was the nineteen ninety seven R video shoot interview, 3129 02:38:30.559 --> 02:38:32.799 the first shoot interview SID ever did, which I would 3130 02:38:32.920 --> 02:38:34.959 highly recommend to get a flavor of the man when 3131 02:38:35.040 --> 02:38:37.920 he was, you know, truly in his money earning prime. 3132 02:38:38.040 --> 02:38:39.719 In a lot of ways in wrestling, it's very rare 3133 02:38:40.040 --> 02:38:42.399 that you get a star of his caliber doing a 3134 02:38:42.440 --> 02:38:45.760 shoot interview without you know, the business mostly being in 3135 02:38:45.799 --> 02:38:48.360 the rearview mirror. So you get some real raw kind 3136 02:38:48.360 --> 02:38:51.120 of perspective on the WWF run that he had just 3137 02:38:51.159 --> 02:38:53.360 wrapped up, which is which is great because you know, 3138 02:38:54.200 --> 02:38:56.120 it's it's how he really feels instead of like three 3139 02:38:56.200 --> 02:38:58.760 years later they give him a nice front colony softens everything, 3140 02:38:58.879 --> 02:39:01.799 you know. So that's that's worth checking out. And so 3141 02:39:02.040 --> 02:39:05.200 was Devin Nicholson stuff that he's done. Because Sid would 3142 02:39:05.200 --> 02:39:07.639 go up to Great Great White North Wrestling, which is 3143 02:39:07.680 --> 02:39:10.639 Hannibal Devin Nicholson's indie promotion up in Canada, and as 3144 02:39:10.680 --> 02:39:13.479 part of making some shots in the ring and making appearances, 3145 02:39:13.479 --> 02:39:15.120 he would also do these shoot interviews. And so here 3146 02:39:15.239 --> 02:39:19.639 is Sid what probably twenty years later, maybe fifteen years later, 3147 02:39:19.719 --> 02:39:22.760 speaking to Hannibal overcounting more truth. 3148 02:39:22.959 --> 02:39:24.520 More truth is what you're telling me. We'll see. 3149 02:39:25.120 --> 02:39:27.639 Let's keep our ears especially peeled, and not only you, boss, 3150 02:39:27.719 --> 02:39:29.959 but everybody listening in the Solar system for any points 3151 02:39:29.959 --> 02:39:32.000 of contradiction. I'll try to catch them if I hear them, 3152 02:39:32.360 --> 02:39:35.680 But let's crowdsource this everybody out there too. Feel free 3153 02:39:35.680 --> 02:39:38.159 to hit us up the lapsed fan at gmail dot 3154 02:39:38.200 --> 02:39:40.200 com if there's anything you noticed that doesn't quite job 3155 02:39:40.920 --> 02:39:41.520 what happened. 3156 02:39:41.799 --> 02:39:43.879 We got into an argument while we're all waiting on 3157 02:39:44.120 --> 02:39:46.520 fearing the lot in the bar, we thought it was 3158 02:39:46.520 --> 02:39:48.120 coming there was actually going to our rooms. 3159 02:39:49.000 --> 02:39:52.479 I mean, why does he Why is that an important detail? 3160 02:39:52.520 --> 02:39:54.920 I'm killing myself trying to figure out what he thinks 3161 02:39:55.000 --> 02:39:56.719 that does to soften the blow for him. 3162 02:39:57.040 --> 02:40:00.760 Any guesses like who care? I mean, I guess that's 3163 02:40:00.799 --> 02:40:04.360 the reason why they would be upstairs altogether. Yes, yeah, 3164 02:40:05.079 --> 02:40:08.479 maybe he's trying not like why I guess maybe even 3165 02:40:08.600 --> 02:40:12.479 like why they'd be out and about, yeah, or why 3166 02:40:12.559 --> 02:40:13.200 he'd be out. 3167 02:40:13.079 --> 02:40:15.840 Of his room potentially not in his ass falling asleep. Yeah, 3168 02:40:15.879 --> 02:40:18.399 exactly right, Yeah, you're right, you know, I know you're 3169 02:40:18.479 --> 02:40:20.799 you're helping me realize something. What it probably is is 3170 02:40:20.840 --> 02:40:24.719 he's probably trying to minimize how drunk he was, because 3171 02:40:24.760 --> 02:40:26.799 he's giving a reason that they're at the bar, if 3172 02:40:26.879 --> 02:40:29.760 not to drink, Right, here's a reason to be at 3173 02:40:29.799 --> 02:40:32.879 the bar. Instead of just getting obnoxiously intoxicated. We're at 3174 02:40:32.920 --> 02:40:34.440 the bar because we think that's where our food's going 3175 02:40:34.479 --> 02:40:34.600 to be. 3176 02:40:34.760 --> 02:40:35.319 Yep, yep. 3177 02:40:35.760 --> 02:40:37.479 So if those sons of bitches had told us where 3178 02:40:37.479 --> 02:40:39.719 the food was going to be, Arnwood run stabbed. That's 3179 02:40:39.799 --> 02:40:41.920 that's my Jesus Jesus Christ. 3180 02:40:43.280 --> 02:40:46.600 They got brought up, what's frown the business? And everybody said, 3181 02:40:47.120 --> 02:40:49.639 I've said it out loud, said Flair just needs it, 3182 02:40:49.799 --> 02:40:52.319 you know, not worry about his job. He's got his job. 3183 02:40:52.360 --> 02:40:53.639 We all got guaranteed money. 3184 02:40:54.120 --> 02:40:56.079 That's way softer than what he said the first time 3185 02:40:56.079 --> 02:40:58.319 about old man needs to get the fuck out of 3186 02:40:58.319 --> 02:41:00.040 the way versus don't worry about your job man, And 3187 02:41:00.120 --> 02:41:01.239 it's all good. We're all winning here. 3188 02:41:01.520 --> 02:41:03.760 No that's not what you said. No, we're all we're 3189 02:41:03.799 --> 02:41:05.760 on the same side here. There's no way with that 3190 02:41:05.840 --> 02:41:07.920 proviso that arn flies off the handle like that. 3191 02:41:09.200 --> 02:41:12.120 Just step back and let somebody else know go forward. 3192 02:41:12.280 --> 02:41:14.760 You're not you're not getting a pay cut. So I 3193 02:41:14.799 --> 02:41:16.239 any got upset and hit me in the head with 3194 02:41:16.280 --> 02:41:19.159 a beer bottle, and so of course, you know, everybody 3195 02:41:19.200 --> 02:41:21.760 started breaking with the fight, and then we had security there. 3196 02:41:21.799 --> 02:41:22.959 So as I'm going to my room. 3197 02:41:23.879 --> 02:41:27.079 You know, the security from Charlotte's name is Doug something 3198 02:41:27.120 --> 02:41:29.879 that came out of tell Enginer, Doug Dillingdry. So they 3199 02:41:29.920 --> 02:41:31.840 were all out there and arn. Now he cracks the 3200 02:41:31.879 --> 02:41:35.200 bare bald. He tries to stand you with it. I went, no, motherfucker, 3201 02:41:35.280 --> 02:41:36.079 this ain't gonna happen. 3202 02:41:36.159 --> 02:41:37.120 So I go to my room. 3203 02:41:37.600 --> 02:41:39.440 There's a chair in there, and I tear off an 3204 02:41:39.520 --> 02:41:41.120 arm off of so I'm gonna go back and walking 3205 02:41:41.200 --> 02:41:43.000 in the head with it. Now I get down. There's 3206 02:41:43.000 --> 02:41:45.719 nobody in the hallway. Now, so I knock on the door. 3207 02:41:46.200 --> 02:41:49.040 I hear arms stumbling around. I actually think I hear 3208 02:41:49.120 --> 02:41:52.000 him fall. I say, he's two drugs. So I take 3209 02:41:52.040 --> 02:41:54.440 the arm and I toss it the opposite way I'm going. 3210 02:41:55.159 --> 02:41:57.559 So now he he says, he tosses it. 3211 02:41:57.600 --> 02:42:00.200 Whereas the first instance, if I'm not mistake, and then 3212 02:42:00.239 --> 02:42:02.680 maybe a closer examination, I might be wrong. But he 3213 02:42:02.719 --> 02:42:04.600 doesn't never say he throws it. He just points out 3214 02:42:04.639 --> 02:42:07.360 that it was twenty feet away, right to excuse the 3215 02:42:07.399 --> 02:42:12.200 possibility that he, you know, initiated the first kind of 3216 02:42:12.319 --> 02:42:15.920 really serious contact that would perhaps go towards justifying a 3217 02:42:16.000 --> 02:42:19.319 counter attack with scissors hmmm. This time he threw it 3218 02:42:19.479 --> 02:42:20.959 down the thing, so you got that on. 3219 02:42:21.120 --> 02:42:22.440 He never hit you with it. Do you agree with that? 3220 02:42:22.559 --> 02:42:23.120 We'll find out. 3221 02:42:23.840 --> 02:42:25.600 As soon as I turn to hear the door open 3222 02:42:25.719 --> 02:42:28.319 and I turned around, he starts going after me. He 3223 02:42:28.440 --> 02:42:30.639 comes on to me, he gets her closed. I don't 3224 02:42:30.639 --> 02:42:32.520 really realize him that's where he stick stabs me in 3225 02:42:32.559 --> 02:42:34.600 the stomach, but he does. I just one time he 3226 02:42:34.719 --> 02:42:37.879 drops when he drops his feet of my feet, and 3227 02:42:38.000 --> 02:42:40.600 now on my preferal vision, I see the scissors follow 3228 02:42:40.600 --> 02:42:43.600 at our feet and he's not No, I didn't knock 3229 02:42:43.680 --> 02:42:45.840 him out, just enough to knock him off of me. 3230 02:42:45.879 --> 02:42:46.399 To the ground. 3231 02:42:46.959 --> 02:42:49.000 It's now the he sees the scissors at his feet, 3232 02:42:49.200 --> 02:42:51.120 whereas I'm pretty sure in the first one he framed 3233 02:42:51.159 --> 02:42:53.239 it as it fell out of my side and I 3234 02:42:53.319 --> 02:42:55.879 realized that he was stabbed. Now he doesn't have that. 3235 02:42:56.040 --> 02:42:59.360 Two different times he realized he was stabbed. Problem and 3236 02:42:59.520 --> 02:43:01.559 he had the scissors first, right, he had this is first. 3237 02:43:01.600 --> 02:43:04.559 Now he lounges for the scissors the second time, and 3238 02:43:04.680 --> 02:43:07.280 this time I give him first, and then I'm stabbing 3239 02:43:07.440 --> 02:43:09.559 back because at that point you're thinking it's a. 3240 02:43:09.600 --> 02:43:11.280 Life, for it is a life for death. I mean, 3241 02:43:11.360 --> 02:43:12.319 I don't know what I mean. 3242 02:43:12.559 --> 02:43:14.840 I gotta stabbed three times here in my face and 3243 02:43:15.000 --> 02:43:16.879 once here. But I'll be honest with you, I never 3244 02:43:16.959 --> 02:43:21.200 realized I was stabbed. I never knew it until when 3245 02:43:22.719 --> 02:43:25.120 co Scorpio said, I guess it was him. He says, hey, man, 3246 02:43:25.200 --> 02:43:27.959 you're killing dude. And I had got horned by the 3247 02:43:28.000 --> 02:43:29.559 back of the neck and I'm stabbed and he may 3248 02:43:29.559 --> 02:43:30.000 ever work. 3249 02:43:30.479 --> 02:43:33.479 Okay, think about that. He's got armed by the back 3250 02:43:33.520 --> 02:43:35.360 of the neck, having dropped him, and he is just 3251 02:43:36.000 --> 02:43:36.719 stabbing him. 3252 02:43:37.479 --> 02:43:38.280 Can you picture this. 3253 02:43:39.760 --> 02:43:45.520 I mean, it's horrifying, just going and going and going blackout. 3254 02:43:46.319 --> 02:43:49.319 He sees red and he's not gonna stop boss until 3255 02:43:51.000 --> 02:43:58.399 arn isn't moving anymore. Great guy, you know, definitely definitely 3256 02:43:59.319 --> 02:44:02.239 nor family man, I mean normal and uh you know, 3257 02:44:02.600 --> 02:44:06.040 just certainly somebody who knows how to hold their temper. 3258 02:44:09.719 --> 02:44:13.000 Yeah, I mean we used to, you say sarcastically. No, 3259 02:44:13.600 --> 02:44:17.120 I'm dead serious, all right, you know, he's yeah, he's 3260 02:44:17.159 --> 02:44:21.639 a he's a what do you want? I know where 3261 02:44:21.680 --> 02:44:21.920 to run? 3262 02:44:21.920 --> 02:44:23.319 And when he came into this from the first one, 3263 02:44:23.360 --> 02:44:25.920 he got close to me failed down at my feet, 3264 02:44:25.920 --> 02:44:27.079 and when I did, I looked at him, and then 3265 02:44:27.120 --> 02:44:28.239 out of the corner of my eye, I saw the 3266 02:44:28.239 --> 02:44:30.719 scissors fall. They were falling out of my stomach. Yep, 3267 02:44:30.760 --> 02:44:31.440 okay he did. 3268 02:44:32.079 --> 02:44:32.280 Yeah. 3269 02:44:32.440 --> 02:44:35.399 The first time he said he saw the things fall 3270 02:44:35.479 --> 02:44:37.559 out of his stomach, and the second the scissors, and 3271 02:44:37.600 --> 02:44:38.840 the second time he saw them on the. 3272 02:44:38.840 --> 02:44:42.479 Floor and hitting him with also not just stabbing him 3273 02:44:42.479 --> 02:44:44.479 but hitting him as well. And then it hits me. 3274 02:44:44.520 --> 02:44:47.719 I'm standing over, I'm going I think it was a 3275 02:44:47.719 --> 02:44:50.399 scorpio that said he in this position sid is not 3276 02:44:50.479 --> 02:44:52.440 only stabbing, but he's kicking aren't in the head when 3277 02:44:52.440 --> 02:44:52.959 he's on the ground. 3278 02:44:53.000 --> 02:44:53.319 Can you pick? 3279 02:44:53.440 --> 02:44:56.440 Oh my god, those short shin kicks, those Kwada style kickers. 3280 02:44:56.479 --> 02:44:59.840 Stuff. Fucking ah. I need your help on the sound 3281 02:44:59.840 --> 02:45:05.280 of X for this. Oh it's probably something just like. 3282 02:45:15.040 --> 02:45:17.639 To let it out, boss. This is your moment you've 3283 02:45:17.680 --> 02:45:19.360 been you've been looking for this release. 3284 02:45:21.760 --> 02:45:33.239 Come on, God, I gets cut into the throat. 3285 02:45:33.520 --> 02:45:40.120 I never heard that he's he's stabbed him like twenty times. 3286 02:45:42.879 --> 02:45:46.600 I mean, that was that was so much worse than 3287 02:45:46.639 --> 02:45:48.639 I expected it to be with the sound he came 3288 02:45:48.760 --> 02:45:50.440 up with, and. 3289 02:45:50.520 --> 02:45:52.959 What's going on here? So I takes decision. I'm going 3290 02:45:53.280 --> 02:45:53.840 other ways. 3291 02:45:53.879 --> 02:45:56.399 I could from both of us, so I said, he's 3292 02:45:56.440 --> 02:45:58.479 hard man, so I reached over to grab him. When 3293 02:45:58.479 --> 02:46:00.000 I did, blood comes out. 3294 02:46:00.159 --> 02:46:00.200 Me. 3295 02:46:00.399 --> 02:46:03.360 Hits the wall. Now I realize I'm stabbed as well. 3296 02:46:03.959 --> 02:46:06.319 So that's when I go to the lobby, and that's 3297 02:46:06.360 --> 02:46:07.079 where Bader is. 3298 02:46:07.520 --> 02:46:10.360 Okay, I'll mention Evader in the first story. 3299 02:46:10.559 --> 02:46:14.239 Yeah, and was there ever any legal ramifications of that? 3300 02:46:14.719 --> 02:46:16.680 This The thing is, they came to me and said, 3301 02:46:17.559 --> 02:46:20.079 you know, we want you to press charges. I said, no, 3302 02:46:20.200 --> 02:46:22.639 I'm not gonna press charges. And then they came back 3303 02:46:22.680 --> 02:46:24.159 to the next day try to get their press charges. 3304 02:46:24.200 --> 02:46:27.319 I said, you know what I mean, I'm messed up, 3305 02:46:27.399 --> 02:46:29.239 and I know he's messed up, so I'm not gonna work. 3306 02:46:29.239 --> 02:46:31.040 I'm not gonna press charges. And then they said to 3307 02:46:31.120 --> 02:46:36.120 me he didn't have a scratch onning. I'm so hold on, man, 3308 02:46:37.319 --> 02:46:40.479 they can't be true, but maybe possible. 3309 02:46:40.559 --> 02:46:46.559 So that can't be true, but maybe possible said. 3310 02:46:47.399 --> 02:46:49.079 That's that should be the name of his book. 3311 02:46:50.399 --> 02:46:52.399 Okay, yeah, I'm gonna press charges if they go back 3312 02:46:52.440 --> 02:46:55.159 and get the paperwork to come back. Well, that night, 3313 02:46:55.239 --> 02:46:58.200 the nurse comes in my room and I said something. 3314 02:46:58.280 --> 02:47:00.760 I said, well, How's how's the She said, how are 3315 02:47:00.799 --> 02:47:04.879 you doing? I said, okay, your friend's not doing Okay, 3316 02:47:05.280 --> 02:47:07.600 don't really there's these comps. 3317 02:47:07.479 --> 02:47:08.680 Just told me that he didn't. 3318 02:47:08.840 --> 02:47:11.920 What what makes this nurse think that that guy is 3319 02:47:12.000 --> 02:47:14.159 Sid's friend? He just almost killed him? 3320 02:47:15.399 --> 02:47:15.600 Yeah? 3321 02:47:17.559 --> 02:47:20.799 What I what? 3322 02:47:22.239 --> 02:47:26.399 Your friend's not doing? What happened to Harvey's what happened? Yeah? 3323 02:47:26.440 --> 02:47:30.440 Where's where's Harvin's? Where's Nick? Busick? 3324 02:47:33.239 --> 02:47:35.520 And a scratch on him? So I walked down the 3325 02:47:35.559 --> 02:47:37.600 hall and looked in his room. He was messed up. 3326 02:47:38.040 --> 02:47:39.799 So when they came to the next morning, I said, 3327 02:47:39.799 --> 02:47:43.399 I'm not signing that. Okay, see how life is. So 3328 02:47:43.440 --> 02:47:47.319 when I get back home, Lawrence excues me. You know. 3329 02:47:47.399 --> 02:47:49.159 So I had to put a twenty thousand dollars retainer 3330 02:47:49.200 --> 02:47:51.360 with a lawyer in Charlotte, which she never got a 3331 02:47:51.440 --> 02:47:51.760 nick of. 3332 02:47:52.360 --> 02:47:53.719 And I just had to pay a lawyer to get 3333 02:47:53.799 --> 02:47:55.840 him no, because he thought it says how I've got money? 3334 02:47:55.920 --> 02:47:58.639 He doesn't. He's gonna get money you get And that's 3335 02:47:58.680 --> 02:48:00.840 how that wow implication the war. 3336 02:48:01.360 --> 02:48:03.319 That's a Sid shot right there if I've ever heard one. 3337 02:48:04.479 --> 02:48:05.200 So I don't know. 3338 02:48:05.479 --> 02:48:10.120 In the first instance, he doesn't talk about he says 3339 02:48:10.200 --> 02:48:12.479 no scratch on him, obviously, but he doesn't really talk 3340 02:48:12.520 --> 02:48:17.639 about going to look at Arn to confirm visually, you 3341 02:48:17.719 --> 02:48:22.239 know that visually that he's messed up. You know, he 3342 02:48:22.399 --> 02:48:25.479 just says, I just dropped the charges in the first interview, right, 3343 02:48:25.479 --> 02:48:29.120 and the nurse tells you tells him you know your 3344 02:48:29.159 --> 02:48:31.479 friend's really messed up. So I don't know why you 3345 02:48:31.719 --> 02:48:35.879 leave that detail out of actually observing the damage before 3346 02:48:35.879 --> 02:48:38.559 you leave. But as far as this strange whole thing 3347 02:48:38.639 --> 02:48:42.959 about why even mentioned the charges and everything, I feel 3348 02:48:42.959 --> 02:48:45.040 like there's something about wrestler brain where it's like it's 3349 02:48:45.120 --> 02:48:48.239 not even like an alibi for exoneration. It's there's always 3350 02:48:48.319 --> 02:48:50.399 like this thing of like I could have press charges 3351 02:48:50.399 --> 02:48:51.319 against you, motherfucker. 3352 02:48:52.159 --> 02:48:53.559 Yeah right, I was the bigger man. 3353 02:48:53.760 --> 02:48:53.920 You know. 3354 02:48:54.120 --> 02:48:57.079 Somehow Sid has found a way because aren't actually suited him, 3355 02:48:57.079 --> 02:48:59.680 As we'll get to that, he was actually the bigger 3356 02:48:59.760 --> 02:49:06.879 man here because he didn't press charges. I don't you 3357 02:49:06.920 --> 02:49:08.840 know what, Arn, Why don't you thank Sid? That's the 3358 02:49:08.920 --> 02:49:11.479 real question. Why doesn't somebody ask Carn and or some 3359 02:49:11.559 --> 02:49:12.680 one of that that it's I. 3360 02:49:12.719 --> 02:49:16.520 Honestly don't understand why why Arn isnngrateful that that Sid 3361 02:49:16.600 --> 02:49:20.319 attacked him, so he should be gracious and grateful. 3362 02:49:20.680 --> 02:49:22.520 I mean he should be grateful that it wasn't worse 3363 02:49:22.559 --> 02:49:24.079 than it was from a legal perspective. 3364 02:49:24.479 --> 02:49:25.319 Yeah, that's true too. 3365 02:49:25.399 --> 02:49:28.120 Imagine if Arn had to get detained in England and 3366 02:49:28.840 --> 02:49:32.040 there had to be you know, transatlantic negotiation to get 3367 02:49:32.079 --> 02:49:35.600 to get his body back over here. I mean that's 3368 02:49:35.639 --> 02:49:37.639 the thing. People didn't think Sid enough, and I think 3369 02:49:37.680 --> 02:49:38.959 that's a big part of the reason that he was 3370 02:49:39.000 --> 02:49:41.600 so aggressive in Hyper's because no one ever said thank 3371 02:49:41.639 --> 02:49:42.159 you to the man. 3372 02:49:44.959 --> 02:49:45.799 Look what he didn't do. 3373 02:49:47.079 --> 02:49:49.399 So I'm going to give you the excerpt now because 3374 02:49:49.440 --> 02:49:52.159 he mentioned him from Vader's book. Vader has told the 3375 02:49:52.200 --> 02:49:54.520 story in interviews as well. But he does a nice 3376 02:49:54.520 --> 02:49:57.280 discinct job, or at least I won't say sync, it's. 3377 02:49:57.079 --> 02:50:00.159 A complete job. And when anything about. 3378 02:50:01.840 --> 02:50:04.239 Or the Kenny Casanova books, who we we love his stuff. 3379 02:50:04.239 --> 02:50:06.600 I mean it's a gift from God that he got 3380 02:50:06.639 --> 02:50:09.360 all these wrestlers in such a detail chronologically on their 3381 02:50:09.399 --> 02:50:13.799 career before they passed. So shout outs to uh the 3382 02:50:14.079 --> 02:50:16.879 Look the Vader book, it's called walking on hot waffles. 3383 02:50:17.040 --> 02:50:20.440 That's just that's what it's called. And standing here right now. 3384 02:50:20.479 --> 02:50:23.239 I don't remember why, but I think I can take 3385 02:50:23.239 --> 02:50:30.399 a pretty good guess. Vader walking walking with hot waffles 3386 02:50:30.399 --> 02:50:30.920 in your belly? 3387 02:50:32.079 --> 02:50:32.760 What it should be. 3388 02:50:32.879 --> 02:50:36.319 Called walking while on hot waffles? 3389 02:50:38.799 --> 02:50:40.799 Walking after consuming? 3390 02:50:42.360 --> 02:50:45.760 Yeah about the title, leon, you know, we hear the 3391 02:50:45.760 --> 02:50:46.760 publisher thought. 3392 02:50:47.559 --> 02:50:50.399 Waffles my kind of party. Got it right now? Can 3393 02:50:50.440 --> 02:50:53.000 you imagine a waffle house when Vader shows up? Jesus, oh, 3394 02:50:53.319 --> 02:50:58.639 you know exactly. It's like, you know, the sign they're 3395 02:50:58.680 --> 02:51:01.680 they're like, listen, awful house does not close. We know, 3396 02:51:01.760 --> 02:51:04.120 it's one of those establishments that just is always open. 3397 02:51:04.280 --> 02:51:06.399 But they see they see, you. 3398 02:51:06.479 --> 02:51:11.000 Know, it's known as the Vader clause out there in 3399 02:51:11.040 --> 02:51:11.799 the rocky mountains. 3400 02:51:13.200 --> 02:51:19.200 They see the the fucking vehicle, you know, shake its 3401 02:51:19.239 --> 02:51:25.479 way up to the door, all right, and it's like 3402 02:51:25.559 --> 02:51:27.479 and it stops, like it's actually, you know, it just 3403 02:51:27.559 --> 02:51:30.559 kind of purrs for a little while in in you know, 3404 02:51:30.959 --> 02:51:32.399 and they're like, oh shit. 3405 02:51:33.079 --> 02:51:35.000 When you watch the grin Shoes told Christmas this year, 3406 02:51:35.000 --> 02:51:37.000 I want you to think of it as that's how 3407 02:51:37.120 --> 02:51:41.520 Vade comes down down his mountain, yes, exactly, in his 3408 02:51:41.680 --> 02:51:47.079 fucking snow cat, all right, and he comes and then 3409 02:51:47.159 --> 02:51:50.040 and then the motor turns off, and now all the 3410 02:51:50.120 --> 02:51:53.639 employees panic because they thought for sure they had a 3411 02:51:53.760 --> 02:51:54.159 night off. 3412 02:51:54.760 --> 02:51:55.440 Yeah, exactly. 3413 02:51:55.559 --> 02:51:58.680 The scene is like everyone looking out the kind kind 3414 02:51:58.680 --> 02:52:01.680 of Florida ceiling window, looking out the huge ass windows 3415 02:52:01.719 --> 02:52:05.200 onto the parking lot in a state of like stun silence, 3416 02:52:05.760 --> 02:52:06.200 and then. 3417 02:52:06.840 --> 02:52:08.680 Or even better, even better, you know, but beforehand, this 3418 02:52:08.760 --> 02:52:12.840 is what happens. So the SnowCat drives up to the 3419 02:52:12.879 --> 02:52:15.440 parking lot, does not enter the parking lot yet, and 3420 02:52:15.520 --> 02:52:17.840 it just kind of waits outside the parking lot. Yes, 3421 02:52:18.440 --> 02:52:21.239 and everyone, every all the employees of walf House, they 3422 02:52:21.319 --> 02:52:25.639 fucking they stare and they're like, oh no, and you 3423 02:52:25.799 --> 02:52:28.440 just try the tight shot on all their faces, and 3424 02:52:28.520 --> 02:52:31.920 you hear the low rumble and they're just watching it. 3425 02:52:32.239 --> 02:52:34.079 Is it gonna go straight? Or is it gonna take 3426 02:52:34.120 --> 02:52:35.879 the turn into the parking lot. And then you hear, 3427 02:52:36.040 --> 02:52:41.360 just like you said from he makes the turn into 3428 02:52:41.360 --> 02:52:41.840 the parking lot. 3429 02:52:41.920 --> 02:52:43.280 He makes the turn in the parking lot, and they're 3430 02:52:43.280 --> 02:52:45.079 still holding out hope that maybe he's not coming in. 3431 02:52:45.239 --> 02:52:46.520 Oh my god, oh my god, oh my god, oh 3432 02:52:46.559 --> 02:52:48.120 my god, oh my god. And then yeah, then it 3433 02:52:48.239 --> 02:52:51.000 just stops. It gets a parking spot, right out front, 3434 02:52:51.079 --> 02:52:51.879 so you don't show that. 3435 02:52:52.159 --> 02:52:53.920 All you show is the looks on the faces of 3436 02:52:54.000 --> 02:52:56.360 like six waffle house members looking out the window. 3437 02:52:56.319 --> 02:53:00.719 And like close ups of the headlights, yeah, you know, 3438 02:53:01.239 --> 02:53:03.159 close up to the of the headlights, like those are 3439 02:53:03.200 --> 02:53:06.559 the eyes of Vader. It's touch right, and then and 3440 02:53:06.719 --> 02:53:10.079 then and then you get like a shot. So imagine 3441 02:53:10.120 --> 02:53:13.159 the shot. Okay, you get your wide screen you know, 3442 02:53:13.280 --> 02:53:16.399 your wide screen frame. On the left side of the frame, 3443 02:53:16.600 --> 02:53:21.000 you have a massive close up of the uh one 3444 02:53:21.799 --> 02:53:24.680 of the driver's side headlight. Okay, it like almost fills 3445 02:53:24.680 --> 02:53:27.760 the entire screen. The other side you have basically the 3446 02:53:27.840 --> 02:53:30.719 rest of the empty parking lot snow, and it's it's 3447 02:53:31.040 --> 02:53:33.479 you know, and it's and it's it's out of focus, 3448 02:53:33.760 --> 02:53:37.879 all right. And then the motor stops and the light 3449 02:53:38.040 --> 02:53:44.760 goes out, oh right, and then the door opens and 3450 02:53:44.840 --> 02:53:48.680 you cut right back inside, all right, and everybody panics 3451 02:53:49.639 --> 02:53:50.840 fucking trying to close up. 3452 02:53:51.239 --> 02:53:53.520 Lock the fucking door, Lock the fucking door. 3453 02:53:53.559 --> 02:53:57.079 Before he gets here, and you get the manager. He 3454 02:53:57.280 --> 02:54:00.200 like he does one of those like like a you know, 3455 02:54:00.879 --> 02:54:04.639 a nineteen seventies cop show, sliding over the over the 3456 02:54:04.959 --> 02:54:09.079 the the the counter all right, with the keys, and 3457 02:54:09.200 --> 02:54:15.159 he's racing, racing, racing, and he's about to fucking insert 3458 02:54:15.280 --> 02:54:19.520 the key into the lock, and all of a sudden, 3459 02:54:19.600 --> 02:54:24.559 the door just slams open and the manager flies ten 3460 02:54:24.639 --> 02:54:25.280 feet in the air. 3461 02:54:25.360 --> 02:54:26.799 It's like the first time we see zeus and no 3462 02:54:26.879 --> 02:54:28.440 holds bar exactly. 3463 02:54:30.600 --> 02:54:32.000 What the fucking waffles? 3464 02:54:33.760 --> 02:54:35.719 Why are you already mad that you don't have them? 3465 02:54:35.760 --> 02:54:38.120 You just walked in the restaurant. At least give us 3466 02:54:38.159 --> 02:54:40.280 a chance to, like, you know, prepare your order. 3467 02:54:40.399 --> 02:54:42.840 He's shut your damn mouth all about fucking waffles. 3468 02:54:42.959 --> 02:54:44.959 Now he picks up like the you know, they have 3469 02:54:45.040 --> 02:54:47.319 the syrup containers on every He picks them up and 3470 02:54:47.319 --> 02:54:50.440 starts chucking them like fastballs over the counter. 3471 02:54:51.159 --> 02:54:54.079 He's throwing them, throwing them with his right hand and 3472 02:54:54.159 --> 02:54:55.399 with his left hand he's drinking it. 3473 02:54:59.239 --> 02:55:02.520 Disgusting, absolutely repulsive, the amount of. 3474 02:55:02.559 --> 02:55:04.959 And then he grabbed like like two of them, and 3475 02:55:05.440 --> 02:55:07.840 you know, he clashed them together and they shatter. 3476 02:55:09.360 --> 02:55:11.680 The amount of butter and syrup that he put on 3477 02:55:11.760 --> 02:55:14.360 his waffles. I mean, can we take a. 3478 02:55:14.399 --> 02:55:15.280 Moment, you know what I mean? 3479 02:55:15.360 --> 02:55:15.799 Can think of it. 3480 02:55:15.920 --> 02:55:18.959 It's just it's really it's it's syrup soup and and 3481 02:55:19.399 --> 02:55:22.120 it's like it's like a bowl of soup, but it's 3482 02:55:22.479 --> 02:55:25.600 it's it's maple syrup and butter and the waffles are 3483 02:55:25.639 --> 02:55:28.840 the crackers. That's what it's like. 3484 02:55:29.680 --> 02:55:32.639 Hey, what episode did they talk about like the cinematic 3485 02:55:33.000 --> 02:55:36.360 qualities of Vader going to the waffle house? Oh, that's 3486 02:55:36.360 --> 02:55:43.959 Sid Tribute Part three. And he goes he goes in 3487 02:55:44.000 --> 02:55:46.200 the back of the fucking uh uh. You know, he 3488 02:55:46.280 --> 02:55:48.680 like storms his way through. He's like flipping tables over. 3489 02:55:49.040 --> 02:55:53.760 He's three, He's like just tossing employees left and right. 3490 02:55:55.079 --> 02:55:58.319 Is he ever gonna realize that this never gets him 3491 02:55:58.360 --> 02:55:59.000 food faster? 3492 02:55:59.200 --> 02:55:59.520 To do this? 3493 02:56:01.159 --> 02:56:03.000 You like injuring all the people who can help me, 3494 02:56:03.200 --> 02:56:05.360 who can help make this a smooth process. But he's 3495 02:56:05.559 --> 02:56:10.639 so fucking and he gets to the back and there's like, 3496 02:56:10.760 --> 02:56:15.000 you know, there's like one there's like one like sixty 3497 02:56:15.079 --> 02:56:18.120 year old retired chef. All right. You know, he just 3498 02:56:18.200 --> 02:56:20.159 works at waffle house because he loves to cook and 3499 02:56:20.200 --> 02:56:22.920 it's an opportunity to get out of the house. He's 3500 02:56:22.959 --> 02:56:25.639 just this old man who just like, you know, he 3501 02:56:25.840 --> 02:56:28.840 just likes being around the kids and and helping out. 3502 02:56:28.920 --> 02:56:31.280 But here he is now, now he is the focus. 3503 02:56:32.360 --> 02:56:37.920 He is the focus of Vader's attention. Mambe some fucking eggs, 3504 02:56:39.360 --> 02:56:40.200 come on, old man. 3505 02:56:40.159 --> 02:56:48.159 Maybe the fucking eggs, old man, Stop beating a bitch. 3506 02:56:48.520 --> 02:56:53.959 Feed my mouse exactly. That's the one thing if you 3507 02:56:54.000 --> 02:56:56.600 want to avoid this happening, stop being a bitch. Right. 3508 02:56:56.680 --> 02:56:58.879 Why doesn't that ever recur to these people? They get 3509 02:56:58.920 --> 02:57:01.399 victimized time and time again, and they never decide maybe 3510 02:57:01.399 --> 02:57:03.280 I should turn my bitch meter down a little bit. 3511 02:57:04.719 --> 02:57:07.000 I'm gonna throw your face on the grid. Old man, 3512 02:57:09.760 --> 02:57:10.639 I'm gonna eat you. 3513 02:57:14.520 --> 02:57:17.040 Starts pouring syrup on him while he's preparing the food, 3514 02:57:17.120 --> 02:57:20.559 like countdowns on brother, and he's pouring it on his 3515 02:57:20.639 --> 02:57:21.479 head and while he cooks. 3516 02:57:21.559 --> 02:57:24.000 Well, I get to tell me they're eating waffles or 3517 02:57:24.040 --> 02:57:27.600 I'm eating your face. All right, it's a T shirt. 3518 02:57:27.639 --> 02:57:28.079 Write it down. 3519 02:57:31.159 --> 02:57:33.920 I'm either eating waffles or your face. And then you 3520 02:57:34.040 --> 02:57:38.159 know what to do graphically. You know what to do graphically. 3521 02:57:38.280 --> 02:57:39.040 I think I don't know. 3522 02:57:39.120 --> 02:57:41.440 Can you fit that those those words in the waffle 3523 02:57:41.440 --> 02:57:42.920 house yellow square sign? 3524 02:57:43.600 --> 02:57:54.600 Sure can? And did we name? Did we title Vader's 3525 02:57:54.639 --> 02:57:56.040 book Walking on Hot Waffles? 3526 02:57:56.120 --> 02:57:56.159 No? 3527 02:57:57.840 --> 02:58:00.719 So don't come at us about this. Oh my god, 3528 02:58:00.840 --> 02:58:05.239 you put it on the table, among other things. So 3529 02:58:05.879 --> 02:58:08.159 if he's going to stuff the hole in his face, 3530 02:58:08.520 --> 02:58:10.639 he's also going to stuff the hole in Sid's side. 3531 02:58:10.719 --> 02:58:13.040 Now we turn it over to the boscoon or a 3532 02:58:13.159 --> 02:58:15.959 reading from Vader's book about this fateful night in Sid's 3533 02:58:16.040 --> 02:58:16.639 life and career. 3534 02:58:17.719 --> 02:58:20.280 Now, before I place judgment on either Sid or arm 3535 02:58:20.479 --> 02:58:22.200 on what has gone down in history as one of 3536 02:58:22.239 --> 02:58:25.799 the scariest behind the scenes wrestling fights. Ever, you have 3537 02:58:25.920 --> 02:58:30.399 to put all this together in terms of quote, where 3538 02:58:31.680 --> 02:58:35.440 and tear. I have to I would puddle with that Leon. 3539 02:58:35.520 --> 02:58:37.799 I kind of I don't don't have to do, I say, 3540 02:58:37.799 --> 02:58:40.440 I kind of don't want to. For that matter, I 3541 02:58:40.559 --> 02:58:42.280 kind of don't have to think of that as a 3542 02:58:42.360 --> 02:58:45.840 mitigating factor. And stabbing someone nearly, I mean, if you 3543 02:58:46.360 --> 02:58:49.680 mean like the fact that Sid was wearing scissors and 3544 02:58:49.760 --> 02:58:53.280 it tore through his flesh. Sure there's wear and tear 3545 02:58:53.799 --> 02:58:57.639 right before any sort of altercation between them happened on 3546 02:58:57.760 --> 02:59:02.399 that one horrible European tour Listen, there have been more 3547 02:59:02.440 --> 02:59:04.159 than one horrible European. 3548 02:59:03.799 --> 02:59:07.000 Tourist bell, Yeah, especially with him on them. Yeah, the 3549 02:59:07.120 --> 02:59:10.000 road was getting the best of all of us, The roads. 3550 02:59:10.040 --> 02:59:10.840 Blame it on the road. 3551 02:59:12.159 --> 02:59:13.799 You sure it wasn't a third bus full of booze. 3552 02:59:14.000 --> 02:59:17.840 I'm just saying, yeah, it wasn't alcoholism that kind of 3553 02:59:17.920 --> 02:59:20.079 prompted all drugs and alcohol that was getting the right 3554 02:59:20.239 --> 02:59:22.879 of you. No, it's the road, because the road doesn't 3555 02:59:22.879 --> 02:59:26.399 allow you to detox at it. If I was asked 3556 02:59:26.399 --> 02:59:29.639 to go on the stand and testify today, I would 3557 02:59:29.719 --> 02:59:31.959 have to put the blame entirely. 3558 02:59:34.879 --> 02:59:38.680 On the company's fan wrestling podcast. 3559 02:59:56.079 --> 02:59:59.920 He's fan Wrestling Podcast with Jack and Carnassio. 3560 03:00:02.040 --> 03:00:05.479 WCW get indicted for this stabbing. 3561 03:00:06.799 --> 03:00:10.639 That's what Vader would have done, all right. WCW beat 3562 03:00:10.680 --> 03:00:12.399 the living hell out of us so bad it felt 3563 03:00:12.399 --> 03:00:15.319 like they were trying to kill us. We had already 3564 03:00:15.319 --> 03:00:17.559 been on the road for ten days straight with no breaks, 3565 03:00:17.559 --> 03:00:20.000 so we were exhausted. To top it off, we finished 3566 03:00:20.000 --> 03:00:24.159 a daytime shot in Florida, and oh, I see, and 3567 03:00:24.239 --> 03:00:26.280 then had a hurry off to our next gig in England. 3568 03:00:26.799 --> 03:00:29.399 So I'm like, Florida is not in Europe, pal But 3569 03:00:29.559 --> 03:00:30.559 I see where he went with. 3570 03:00:30.600 --> 03:00:32.360 That, and he finished off a whole lot of other 3571 03:00:32.440 --> 03:00:33.239 shots on the plane. 3572 03:00:33.479 --> 03:00:40.639 Because of your damn right. We showered quickly, got dressed, 3573 03:00:40.760 --> 03:00:44.600 darted up off to the airport, turned up, turned in 3574 03:00:44.680 --> 03:00:49.200 our rental, and got ready to board. Everyone was dressed 3575 03:00:49.239 --> 03:00:51.639 up nice, you know, with nice clothing and leather coats on, 3576 03:00:51.760 --> 03:00:55.360 because that's what WCW expected of us for international flights 3577 03:00:55.399 --> 03:00:57.520 in case we were spotted by any fans along the way. 3578 03:00:58.600 --> 03:01:02.920 Wouldn't wouldn't you want to be in your gear if 3579 03:01:02.959 --> 03:01:04.120 you want to be spot on my fans. 3580 03:01:04.920 --> 03:01:08.000 That's not exactly the most comfortable traveling I. 3581 03:01:08.040 --> 03:01:12.559 Mean, but why suits and nice clothing and shit? Yeah? 3582 03:01:12.799 --> 03:01:15.639 God forbid the fans see these guys as like, you know, 3583 03:01:15.840 --> 03:01:18.799 human beings, human beings or like you know, low rent, 3584 03:01:18.879 --> 03:01:20.680 low lifes, because that would be the truth. 3585 03:01:22.399 --> 03:01:24.280 Like you know, like why don't you have like cut 3586 03:01:24.319 --> 03:01:26.600 off sweats and shit like wou I imagine you guys 3587 03:01:26.639 --> 03:01:29.879 wear around the house. This was no big deal, but 3588 03:01:29.959 --> 03:01:32.000 it means we were also not in our most comfortable 3589 03:01:32.040 --> 03:01:35.719 attire for travel. Yeah, but it's not like a moo mood. 3590 03:01:35.760 --> 03:01:38.879 It's not comfortable for Vader. Yeah right, Well, I don't know. 3591 03:01:38.920 --> 03:01:41.559 I mean, I kind of get what he's saying, because 3592 03:01:42.040 --> 03:01:43.520 you know, like when I go to a wedding, like 3593 03:01:43.680 --> 03:01:45.920 you know, I accept that I'm going to be uncomfortable. 3594 03:01:45.959 --> 03:01:47.639 You know, I'm out of respect. I'm gonna be a 3595 03:01:47.639 --> 03:01:50.000 little stuffy, a little you know, tired. It's not going 3596 03:01:50.079 --> 03:01:52.760 to be sure what I would wear. And yeah, when 3597 03:01:52.799 --> 03:01:55.120 I when I wear uncomfortable clothes, do I want to 3598 03:01:55.120 --> 03:01:56.479 stab someone nearly to death? 3599 03:01:57.639 --> 03:02:00.760 Do I go to do it? No, that's the question. 3600 03:02:00.840 --> 03:02:02.680 Do you actually do it? Or is it just the thought? 3601 03:02:02.879 --> 03:02:04.840 I think I understand why he says WCW is at 3602 03:02:04.879 --> 03:02:07.680 fault here because they were making them wear a dress 3603 03:02:07.719 --> 03:02:11.600 clothes on a road trip. And so you know, how 3604 03:02:11.680 --> 03:02:13.159 are you going to how are you gonna a surprized 3605 03:02:13.200 --> 03:02:14.000 when someone gets stabbed? 3606 03:02:14.040 --> 03:02:15.520 I don't now let me ask you this though, were 3607 03:02:15.559 --> 03:02:21.120 there any like I don't know WCW like suits that 3608 03:02:21.239 --> 03:02:26.040 were enforcing this rule like someone is basically is someone 3609 03:02:26.159 --> 03:02:29.600 taking photos of them every day and like faxing it 3610 03:02:29.719 --> 03:02:32.040 back to Atlanta saying here just to make sure we 3611 03:02:32.159 --> 03:02:34.879 know they got they had their their formal attire on 3612 03:02:35.040 --> 03:02:36.159 during all travel. 3613 03:02:36.280 --> 03:02:38.639 I would love to know what the leverages they have 3614 03:02:38.799 --> 03:02:39.680 to enforce that like. 3615 03:02:39.840 --> 03:02:42.760 And if I don't guess because to me, right because 3616 03:02:42.799 --> 03:02:45.959 to me, once you cross the ocean, fuck you, I'm 3617 03:02:46.000 --> 03:02:47.040 not wearing anything. 3618 03:02:46.799 --> 03:02:48.440 That checks in the mail, and there's no way the 3619 03:02:48.520 --> 03:02:51.600 contracts say if you don't wear slacks, well we can cut. 3620 03:02:51.479 --> 03:02:55.520 Your right during travel. Right, if you don't wear slacks, 3621 03:02:55.680 --> 03:02:59.159 a tucked in button down shirt and a and a 3622 03:02:59.399 --> 03:03:02.239 and a you know, Armani blazer, then you will be 3623 03:03:02.479 --> 03:03:04.479 docked one quarter your pay. 3624 03:03:04.639 --> 03:03:06.040 And you know what's really funny about all this. I 3625 03:03:06.079 --> 03:03:08.840 don't doubt what Vader saying that WCW did have this 3626 03:03:08.959 --> 03:03:12.360 weird dress code and stuff. But I'll bet you, I 3627 03:03:12.440 --> 03:03:14.840 bet I bet substantial money that on this tour they 3628 03:03:14.920 --> 03:03:17.719 relaxed that rule and he's just folding in that grievance. 3629 03:03:17.840 --> 03:03:20.440 To to England. If you saw them on that bus, 3630 03:03:20.479 --> 03:03:22.840 he was. He was in a hoodie and sweat ryans. 3631 03:03:22.879 --> 03:03:25.879 Oh yeah, absolutely, like passed out with the fucking you know, 3632 03:03:26.159 --> 03:03:32.760 with old school headphones around is you know, totally so 3633 03:03:32.879 --> 03:03:36.159 nobody but it means'll come before boarding. They set us 3634 03:03:36.239 --> 03:03:38.399 up and they set up in this lounge with a 3635 03:03:38.479 --> 03:03:41.879 bunch of cocktails. We all got to drinking and getting 3636 03:03:41.879 --> 03:03:44.719 a primer on for the flight. I don't know they 3637 03:03:44.760 --> 03:03:48.200 were painting. That's nice, Yeah, I know, I know. That's 3638 03:03:48.239 --> 03:03:50.840 really the problem with wrestlers. Is what when you take 3639 03:03:50.879 --> 03:03:53.600 these big road trips that require long layovers and long 3640 03:03:53.639 --> 03:03:56.440 delays there they can't help themselves. They're like teenagers. They're 3641 03:03:56.479 --> 03:03:59.120 going to get ship faced. Well they're because they're they're 3642 03:03:59.159 --> 03:04:03.040 they're children, and they're uh, you know, listen, I think, 3643 03:04:03.120 --> 03:04:05.040 especially in this era, they're just there are a lot 3644 03:04:05.120 --> 03:04:06.719 of addicts. Yeah, you know. 3645 03:04:06.920 --> 03:04:08.840 And the only reasons didn't always happen is because the 3646 03:04:08.879 --> 03:04:11.280 road trips were never quite long enough to get that 3647 03:04:11.520 --> 03:04:13.239 bomb before you had to, you know, move on to 3648 03:04:13.319 --> 03:04:18.040 the next leg of the journey, right right, We all. 3649 03:04:17.959 --> 03:04:19.600 Got to drinking and getting a primer for the flight, 3650 03:04:19.680 --> 03:04:23.399 adding alcohol to the mix. Guys were swapping pain pills 3651 03:04:23.440 --> 03:04:26.159 and getting pretty messed up. We weren't even on the 3652 03:04:26.239 --> 03:04:28.239 plane yet. And I remember one guy got up and 3653 03:04:28.360 --> 03:04:32.600 put his headband on, then fell face first right into 3654 03:04:32.959 --> 03:04:38.399 right back into his seat. Okay, this is how So 3655 03:04:38.520 --> 03:04:42.000 he put a headband on and then fell face first 3656 03:04:42.120 --> 03:04:47.559 right back into the seat. Okay, this is how bad 3657 03:04:47.719 --> 03:04:51.159 things were getting. Once boarding time hit, we divvied up, 3658 03:04:51.200 --> 03:04:54.319 this divvied out the seats. It was me two Cold Scorpio, 3659 03:04:54.399 --> 03:04:58.760 the Nasty boys flared, Davy Boy steamboats, some agents, just 3660 03:04:58.840 --> 03:05:01.159 a bunch of us. We the correct number of tickets 3661 03:05:01.200 --> 03:05:03.840 in our envelope, but as usual w CW only had 3662 03:05:03.840 --> 03:05:06.200 a couple of first class seats in the mix, so 3663 03:05:06.360 --> 03:05:09.600 we couldn't all ride first class. This added to the 3664 03:05:09.639 --> 03:05:12.159 bad formula for the trip for us big guys who 3665 03:05:12.200 --> 03:05:14.000 had to sit in the tiny seats in the back. 3666 03:05:14.760 --> 03:05:17.680 Fortunately for me, because of how I negotiated my contract 3667 03:05:17.719 --> 03:05:19.440 and because I had one of the biggest butts on 3668 03:05:19.520 --> 03:05:24.760 the tour, I was not sitting in coach, thank god. 3669 03:05:27.799 --> 03:05:32.200 WW pretty much dominated the flight to London. That's a 3670 03:05:32.239 --> 03:05:36.840 fucking choice phrase dominated the flight. That means, I mean, 3671 03:05:37.120 --> 03:05:40.600 I imagine that if you were if you were looking 3672 03:05:40.639 --> 03:05:45.200 forward to a nice, quiet flight to London, you were 3673 03:05:45.879 --> 03:05:48.639 in Like, if you're think of this, you're Steve Martin 3674 03:05:48.879 --> 03:05:50.600 in playing trains and ONNLOD bills. Just want to read 3675 03:05:50.639 --> 03:05:54.000 this article that your friend wrote exactly, all right, and 3676 03:05:54.319 --> 03:05:58.840 you've got about eighteen John candies. Wow, all right, that's 3677 03:05:58.879 --> 03:06:01.840 what this was, That just right exactly? 3678 03:06:01.959 --> 03:06:03.600 Can you imagine and I know he just said he 3679 03:06:03.639 --> 03:06:05.799 didn't sit and coach, so but can you imagine sitting 3680 03:06:05.959 --> 03:06:08.360 on a commercial airliner and coach and there's an empty 3681 03:06:08.360 --> 03:06:10.360 seat next to you, and you see Vader coming for 3682 03:06:10.399 --> 03:06:10.719 the seat. 3683 03:06:11.319 --> 03:06:13.319 Yeah, or can you imagine that? Like, you know, you're like, 3684 03:06:13.360 --> 03:06:17.559 please don't please not not here, No, no, no. Think 3685 03:06:17.600 --> 03:06:21.079 of how big he is. Oh god, I mean he'd 3686 03:06:21.079 --> 03:06:22.879 probably have to get a whole row for himself. Yeah, 3687 03:06:22.879 --> 03:06:34.639 absolutely awful. We all we Oh yeah, actually a bunch 3688 03:06:34.639 --> 03:06:37.120 of assholes, for sure. We fly all the way over there, 3689 03:06:37.319 --> 03:06:39.840 got off the plane and got right into a bus 3690 03:06:40.000 --> 03:06:43.120 to travel four more hours on one of the bumpiest 3691 03:06:43.200 --> 03:06:46.040 roads the United Kingdom had to offer. Nobody got any 3692 03:06:46.120 --> 03:06:48.639 sleep because of the time change. The sun had already 3693 03:06:48.719 --> 03:06:55.360 come up and it was only afternoon there. Wait, the 3694 03:06:55.399 --> 03:06:59.920 sun had already come up and it was only afternoon there. Yeah, 3695 03:07:02.399 --> 03:07:04.440 what does the sun coming up have to do with anything? 3696 03:07:04.680 --> 03:07:06.000 I think he's trying to say it's hard to fall 3697 03:07:06.040 --> 03:07:07.000 asleep when the sun's up. 3698 03:07:10.079 --> 03:07:12.959 Okay, but you could just say it's afternoon, like the 3699 03:07:13.040 --> 03:07:15.280 days are gone. I could have. Yeah, I don't know, 3700 03:07:15.440 --> 03:07:19.680 Like it's just weird. We did another daytime show. Yes, 3701 03:07:19.799 --> 03:07:22.639 we just wrestled one and travel all that way without 3702 03:07:22.680 --> 03:07:25.000 any sleep. Then we rushed out there to catch a 3703 03:07:25.040 --> 03:07:27.239 bus for another eight hour trip to the next town. 3704 03:07:28.040 --> 03:07:30.600 I was physically exhausted. I was bitching to everyone who 3705 03:07:30.639 --> 03:07:36.920 would listen about all but all are running around we 3706 03:07:37.040 --> 03:07:39.879 were doing saying now, wait a minute, a minute, it's 3707 03:07:40.000 --> 03:07:43.799 just crazy. The bus ride was brutal. It was tight 3708 03:07:44.319 --> 03:07:46.799 and uncomfortable and by no means could you sleep on 3709 03:07:47.040 --> 03:07:48.440 such a vehicle? That's yeah. 3710 03:07:48.639 --> 03:07:52.399 Look, if i'm you know, in charge of this crew, 3711 03:07:52.639 --> 03:07:55.000 like give them the beer because I don't want to 3712 03:07:55.079 --> 03:07:57.159 be there when they get sick of not being able 3713 03:07:57.200 --> 03:07:59.399 to sleep at hour four, you know, at least give. 3714 03:07:59.280 --> 03:08:06.200 The thing to do. Absolutely drunks, maybe some of those two. Yeah, 3715 03:08:10.239 --> 03:08:16.319 the the The bus ride was brutal. It was tight 3716 03:08:16.360 --> 03:08:18.760 and uncomfortable and by no means could you sleep on 3717 03:08:18.799 --> 03:08:20.399 such a vehicle. The boys made the best of it. 3718 03:08:20.920 --> 03:08:23.280 We had run out of food at some point. Oh 3719 03:08:23.760 --> 03:08:26.440 I know what that is. Oh, and everyone just started 3720 03:08:26.520 --> 03:08:30.200 drinking beer on an empty stomach. Yet another formula for disaster. 3721 03:08:31.200 --> 03:08:33.680 We drove way up in the highlands or some damned 3722 03:08:33.719 --> 03:08:37.399 place in the middle. Wait, did you drive way up 3723 03:08:37.399 --> 03:08:39.959 to the highlands or did you find someplace in the middle. 3724 03:08:40.680 --> 03:08:43.280 Yeah, that that's what happens when wrestlers get all prideful 3725 03:08:43.319 --> 03:08:46.559 about geography and knowing geography, but they actually don't know anything. 3726 03:08:46.680 --> 03:08:49.959 They don't remember any of the details. Oh yeah, there's 3727 03:08:49.959 --> 03:08:52.200 the Highlands that that hip flies when you're telling people 3728 03:08:52.239 --> 03:08:54.600 back home. But right do you put it in print, 3729 03:08:54.639 --> 03:08:56.479 you realize you don't know what the fuck you're talking about. 3730 03:08:57.920 --> 03:08:59.959 I'm what was probably the second bumbiest road in all 3731 03:09:00.040 --> 03:09:01.719 of England. I mean to look back at it now, 3732 03:09:01.799 --> 03:09:04.879 all I can say is wow, I couldn't have done 3733 03:09:04.920 --> 03:09:08.239 this today. Somewhere along the ride. I would just have 3734 03:09:08.319 --> 03:09:12.159 had a heart attack and died. Yeah, it was just 3735 03:09:12.239 --> 03:09:14.200 too much to ask of us. And it's no wonder 3736 03:09:14.239 --> 03:09:16.360 sitting an arm were easily at arms. 3737 03:09:18.200 --> 03:09:21.200 I think he means at odds, but maybe I don't 3738 03:09:21.200 --> 03:09:21.799 think so at. 3739 03:09:21.799 --> 03:09:25.000 Arms, like you know, they're not. I mean, yeah, I 3740 03:09:25.079 --> 03:09:29.760 don't even know where the hell they took me, But 3741 03:09:29.879 --> 03:09:32.920 we ended up in front of a nice hotel we 3742 03:09:33.040 --> 03:09:36.239 finish up, which finished the trip frazzled and worn, then 3743 03:09:36.319 --> 03:09:39.239 finally headed to our hotel. It was getting late and 3744 03:09:39.280 --> 03:09:43.159 everybody wanted to just rush up to their rooms and crash. However, 3745 03:09:43.280 --> 03:09:46.840 we were all starving with nothing but beer in our bellies. 3746 03:09:47.600 --> 03:09:49.360 One of the boys, I don't remember who it was, 3747 03:09:49.479 --> 03:09:52.120 insisted they opened the bar up for us so we 3748 03:09:52.159 --> 03:09:53.040 could get some food. 3749 03:09:54.719 --> 03:09:56.879 He would later say it with Steve Austin that that 3750 03:09:56.920 --> 03:09:57.559 wouldn't do that. 3751 03:09:57.680 --> 03:09:58.399 Oh really yeah. 3752 03:09:58.399 --> 03:10:00.959 He told Hannibal in the shooting interview time that what 3753 03:10:01.079 --> 03:10:03.200 actually happened was he walked in and saw that somehow, 3754 03:10:03.280 --> 03:10:05.079 even though the bar was supposed to be closed, that 3755 03:10:05.200 --> 03:10:07.520 Steve Austin had gotten dope in the bar and was 3756 03:10:07.520 --> 03:10:08.680 basically sitting there by himself. 3757 03:10:08.719 --> 03:10:11.879 Oh yeah, God, damn, Well, throw a back, a couple 3758 03:10:11.920 --> 03:10:13.200 of cold ones, you don't mind. We've just been on 3759 03:10:13.280 --> 03:10:15.879 the road about fifteen hours, coming from Florida all the 3760 03:10:15.920 --> 03:10:17.920 way up to down here to the Highlands. Just gonna 3761 03:10:17.959 --> 03:10:19.520 throw a few back before we go up stations and 3762 03:10:19.559 --> 03:10:20.000 go to bed. 3763 03:10:20.040 --> 03:10:22.639 To give the man what he wants. Nigeln't give the 3764 03:10:22.719 --> 03:10:23.399 man what he wants. 3765 03:10:25.319 --> 03:10:28.520 Uh, oh shit, We'll just give ones. 3766 03:10:28.680 --> 03:10:28.840 Yeah. 3767 03:10:28.879 --> 03:10:30.760 We haven't spent enough time thinking about the staff in 3768 03:10:30.840 --> 03:10:31.680 this hotel, have we? 3769 03:10:32.040 --> 03:10:32.959 I know we have not. 3770 03:10:33.440 --> 03:10:39.600 We have not addressed what they're thinking and saying. Uh, Chris, Chris, 3771 03:10:39.680 --> 03:10:39.920 is it is? 3772 03:10:39.959 --> 03:10:40.000 It? 3773 03:10:40.000 --> 03:10:40.239 Truely? 3774 03:10:40.360 --> 03:10:46.799 Got a bunch of wrestlers coming in tonight and they're all, uh, 3775 03:10:46.959 --> 03:10:49.559 you know, they're all. They're all. I don't even know, 3776 03:10:49.680 --> 03:10:52.840 they're all a bunch of blokes, just you know, just 3777 03:10:53.479 --> 03:10:55.159 they look they look very hungry. 3778 03:10:56.479 --> 03:10:59.479 Now these like Olympic wrestlers. Are these like the television wrestlers? 3779 03:10:59.479 --> 03:10:59.639 Though? 3780 03:10:59.719 --> 03:11:03.799 No, No, it's all the fake stuff like Big Daddy, Yeah, 3781 03:11:03.879 --> 03:11:06.879 and uh the you know the h it's like pat 3782 03:11:06.959 --> 03:11:10.879 roach for that matter, and I from uh, I'll feed 3783 03:11:10.920 --> 03:11:11.399 the saint pitt. 3784 03:11:11.440 --> 03:11:12.239 You know what I'm talking about. 3785 03:11:12.280 --> 03:11:15.799 It's pat roach that kind of wrestling. 3786 03:11:17.159 --> 03:11:25.479 Now, ye, big fan, So I'm taking on John Haystacks 3787 03:11:25.520 --> 03:11:26.200 walking back in the day. 3788 03:11:26.319 --> 03:11:28.879 But in fact, there were several roaches on that damn bus. 3789 03:11:31.040 --> 03:11:34.600 I'd just ta't give me a cold beer, son, Why don't. 3790 03:11:34.440 --> 03:11:36.000 You give me a couple of a couple of cold ones. 3791 03:11:36.000 --> 03:11:37.840 I can throw him back around now before I have 3792 03:11:37.959 --> 03:11:39.319 to bed hit that hit. 3793 03:11:40.719 --> 03:11:40.799 Hit? 3794 03:11:40.879 --> 03:11:49.040 What hit that? What hit that single six? What hit 3795 03:11:49.120 --> 03:11:53.239 that single six pot four mattress that you got up here? 3796 03:11:53.760 --> 03:11:57.639 And key detail, critical detail. Unlike all other Austin imitations, 3797 03:11:58.440 --> 03:11:59.959 he's got the stunning Steve haircut. 3798 03:12:00.680 --> 03:12:10.000 That's right, dies. Oh and you know, and you know, 3799 03:12:10.159 --> 03:12:13.760 after after fucking traveling this long you know, like there 3800 03:12:13.760 --> 03:12:16.520 are just there are some of these hairs that are 3801 03:12:16.600 --> 03:12:21.280 just totally totally out of place. Yeah. Yeah, the back 3802 03:12:21.360 --> 03:12:24.319 of it has gone rogue. Yes, yes, yeah, he's got 3803 03:12:24.399 --> 03:12:26.280 like it's like he's got almost like a like a 3804 03:12:27.319 --> 03:12:29.600 like a fan of hair, you know. 3805 03:12:30.399 --> 03:12:32.239 Yeah, like the part is still there. But when it 3806 03:12:32.280 --> 03:12:33.639 comes to that, the. 3807 03:12:33.639 --> 03:12:36.360 Part's permanent, you know, because of the way it's cut. 3808 03:12:36.440 --> 03:12:38.840 That part is permanent, because he's got the the one 3809 03:12:38.920 --> 03:12:42.719 inch side and then he's got the longer side. The 3810 03:12:42.799 --> 03:12:51.079 weirdest sucking air cut of all time. Uh, it was 3811 03:12:51.120 --> 03:12:52.959 another night, but we didn't give a shit, right, I 3812 03:12:53.040 --> 03:12:57.399 can only imagine the manager was pissed us already. Uh shit, 3813 03:12:57.719 --> 03:13:03.959 Well all right, man, I suppose you can im Do 3814 03:13:04.040 --> 03:13:06.319 we have any of those? Do you have any meat pies? 3815 03:13:09.799 --> 03:13:12.079 I think we've got someone in the freezer, you know that. 3816 03:13:12.360 --> 03:13:14.200 You know, we can just put those in the microwave 3817 03:13:14.319 --> 03:13:16.200 for something and just give them meat pies. 3818 03:13:16.639 --> 03:13:19.239 There were fifty steak and ale pies waiting for the 3819 03:13:19.280 --> 03:13:20.639 rest of There we go, There we. 3820 03:13:20.719 --> 03:13:28.520 Go and h blood sausage pies and whatever else, kidney pies, 3821 03:13:29.440 --> 03:13:35.079 whole fucking thing. Salisbury Maryland steak. Oh yes, we all 3822 03:13:35.120 --> 03:13:39.520 would just you know, just the most wonderful processed crust 3823 03:13:39.559 --> 03:13:44.120 you could possibly imagine. We all sat down on the tables. 3824 03:13:44.159 --> 03:13:46.399 I burned a pretty nice looking bar and ordered some food. 3825 03:13:46.920 --> 03:13:50.280 We were all anxious, and one of the food surface 3826 03:13:50.399 --> 03:13:53.239 fast as they could. The boys were beat. You could 3827 03:13:53.239 --> 03:13:56.040 see it on their faces. Man, this trip really sucks 3828 03:13:56.040 --> 03:13:59.879 so far. Two cult scorpios said, I'll think of that, 3829 03:14:00.520 --> 03:14:04.000 I said. The boys kicked in a full fledged bitch 3830 03:14:04.120 --> 03:14:07.680 session about the about the company that eventually turned into 3831 03:14:07.760 --> 03:14:12.000 how they were getting screwed with money. Being screwed without 3832 03:14:12.040 --> 03:14:14.120 money really is what it is, right, Yeah? 3833 03:14:14.159 --> 03:14:14.280 Right? 3834 03:14:14.600 --> 03:14:16.319 A bunch of wrestlers think they're getting screwed on a 3835 03:14:16.360 --> 03:14:20.040 pay day. I don't leave it. They started comparing notes 3836 03:14:20.639 --> 03:14:24.040 talking about paydays. About that time, SID said something like, 3837 03:14:24.479 --> 03:14:26.600 you know, one of my one of the problems is 3838 03:14:26.719 --> 03:14:30.520 she got an old man named Rick Flair who needs 3839 03:14:30.840 --> 03:14:34.200 to get the hell out of the way. The room 3840 03:14:34.239 --> 03:14:36.239 got silent. Yeah, is it nothing in there? 3841 03:14:36.319 --> 03:14:39.840 You notice about Sid saying you know you got guaranteed money, Rick? 3842 03:14:39.920 --> 03:14:40.680 I mean yeah? 3843 03:14:43.719 --> 03:14:43.840 Uh. 3844 03:14:44.120 --> 03:14:45.959 He said something that most of us were thinking. It 3845 03:14:46.079 --> 03:14:47.840 wasn't that he what he said was shocking. 3846 03:14:47.920 --> 03:14:48.840 It was who. 3847 03:14:49.399 --> 03:14:52.239 He said it in front of Sid continued, you all 3848 03:14:52.440 --> 03:14:55.879 know what. Rick Flair is the one that has taken 3849 03:14:56.000 --> 03:14:59.399 all our money, and that's why we're bitching right now. 3850 03:15:00.360 --> 03:15:03.360 He really needs to step aside unless some of us 3851 03:15:03.479 --> 03:15:08.079 get some Everybody looked across the table. That is something 3852 03:15:08.120 --> 03:15:11.000 you don't say. In front of Rick Flair's longtime partner 3853 03:15:11.079 --> 03:15:15.840 and Four Horsemen stablemate Arn Anderson, Arn stood up and 3854 03:15:15.920 --> 03:15:19.040 started arguing with Sid. It got so heated that Arn 3855 03:15:19.159 --> 03:15:22.959 through a beer in his face. They went at each other. 3856 03:15:23.200 --> 03:15:25.840 But before anything could really happen, when anything really could happen, 3857 03:15:26.239 --> 03:15:28.920 there was a big pull apart. A hotel manager came 3858 03:15:28.920 --> 03:15:30.840 over and demanded that we all go to ORMs. Get 3859 03:15:30.920 --> 03:15:34.239 your fucking rooms right now. Wade barrats the hotel manager, 3860 03:15:38.959 --> 03:15:42.440 I've got some bad news for you. You got your 3861 03:15:42.520 --> 03:15:47.920 fucking rooms before I sicked my mother on all of you, 3862 03:15:48.280 --> 03:15:52.719 right Some of us hadn't even found our rooms yet, 3863 03:15:52.760 --> 03:15:55.479 and we were waiting for food with our luggage. We 3864 03:15:55.600 --> 03:15:58.159 all just said forget this and headed out there and 3865 03:15:58.239 --> 03:16:00.520 headed out of there. While still looking from my room, 3866 03:16:00.559 --> 03:16:02.079 I saw Scorpio come around the corner. 3867 03:16:02.479 --> 03:16:02.639 Man. 3868 03:16:02.680 --> 03:16:05.719 I really want to grab somebod to eat. Oh it does, man, 3869 03:16:05.760 --> 03:16:09.719 I really want to grab somebody eat. I said, Shit, 3870 03:16:09.799 --> 03:16:12.719 I'm just gonna have to. I'm just gonna have some 3871 03:16:12.920 --> 03:16:16.959 hash in my room. Shit, big hash. The thing is 3872 03:16:17.040 --> 03:16:20.040 Scorpio wasn't talking about food. I'm out out of my 3873 03:16:20.120 --> 03:16:23.159 man either. Scorpio admits this in interviews today. He doesn't 3874 03:16:23.200 --> 03:16:26.360 give a shit. That's right. We heard it earlier. I 3875 03:16:26.440 --> 03:16:28.920 was smoking that big fucking hash. He said, that's right, 3876 03:16:29.200 --> 03:16:32.680 big fucking hand. What a detail would lose? That's that big. 3877 03:16:32.799 --> 03:16:32.959 You know. 3878 03:16:33.440 --> 03:16:35.559 It's like, you can smoke hash or you can smoke 3879 03:16:35.600 --> 03:16:39.799 big fucking hash. Amazing, and you're telling which one's more satisfying. 3880 03:16:42.559 --> 03:16:45.600 I laughed. I wandered around a bit looking for my room. 3881 03:16:45.719 --> 03:16:48.360 Later on I found out that Sit and Arn got 3882 03:16:48.399 --> 03:16:50.600 into it again. On the way to their rooms. There 3883 03:16:50.639 --> 03:16:52.879 were only about four or five doors away from each other, 3884 03:16:52.959 --> 03:16:54.799 and as they started to bring their stuff in, they 3885 03:16:54.879 --> 03:16:57.920 saw each other. Sid says. At this point, Arn broke 3886 03:16:58.000 --> 03:17:00.120 a beerd bottle and threatened to cut Sid with that 3887 03:17:00.559 --> 03:17:03.159 right there in the hallway. On my way to my room, 3888 03:17:03.159 --> 03:17:07.040 I wandered back into the bar. I don't get back here. 3889 03:17:07.120 --> 03:17:13.639 A fuck's sake, woll not. It had been pretty much 3890 03:17:13.840 --> 03:17:17.719 filtered out after the beer throwing incident, and where we 3891 03:17:17.879 --> 03:17:20.159 and where we had completely taken it over at one point. 3892 03:17:20.239 --> 03:17:22.760 Now it was just a nice big bar with nobody 3893 03:17:22.799 --> 03:17:31.040 in it. Nobody that is except one person, Yes, Sonning Steve. 3894 03:17:33.000 --> 03:17:38.719 Take hey, Steve Hall me on, don't don't make don't 3895 03:17:38.719 --> 03:17:40.600 don't't even make it my room yet. Don't even make 3896 03:17:40.600 --> 03:17:44.200 it in my room yet. I hey, there, don't blame 3897 03:17:44.200 --> 03:17:45.200 you all was running around. 3898 03:17:48.360 --> 03:17:48.799 I don't know. 3899 03:17:49.399 --> 03:17:52.840 I don't blame you all was running around. You're gonna 3900 03:17:52.840 --> 03:17:57.079 you'll pull up have a coal when I'm buying. It's 3901 03:17:57.120 --> 03:17:57.559 in the book. 3902 03:17:59.879 --> 03:18:00.680 You just said it. 3903 03:18:00.719 --> 03:18:06.079 You just said what he really said. It not to 3904 03:18:06.120 --> 03:18:08.040 be one to turn down free beer, I replied. 3905 03:18:08.399 --> 03:18:10.840 Man, maybe I'll drop on my bags off my room 3906 03:18:11.360 --> 03:18:12.399 and I'll take you about it. 3907 03:18:12.600 --> 03:18:18.280 I'll be here, yes, he said, nursing a bottle. He 3908 03:18:18.440 --> 03:18:20.319 was just having a few beers to unwind, you know, 3909 03:18:20.440 --> 03:18:24.319 after the long ride of torture. So I brought my 3910 03:18:24.360 --> 03:18:26.360 bag up to my room and quickly changed into some 3911 03:18:26.520 --> 03:18:29.760 night clothes. Now I was beat after walking around the hotel. 3912 03:18:29.760 --> 03:18:30.440 I don't blame him. 3913 03:18:31.079 --> 03:18:33.479 Yeah, no shit, you know he needed a few beers 3914 03:18:33.520 --> 03:18:36.159 to unwide from the long bus trip that had beer 3915 03:18:36.600 --> 03:18:37.040 on board. 3916 03:18:37.120 --> 03:18:40.799 Yeah, exactly that. He's already drinking beer. You know. I 3917 03:18:40.879 --> 03:18:42.879 think I laid down for a minute and probably passed out. 3918 03:18:42.920 --> 03:18:44.520 I'm not sure how long I was asleep, but it 3919 03:18:44.799 --> 03:18:47.200 probably didn't last long. Maybe I figured beer was waiting 3920 03:18:47.239 --> 03:18:49.120 for me with a few drinks and that would help 3921 03:18:49.159 --> 03:18:51.680 me sleep better. Next thing I know, I snapped to 3922 03:18:51.799 --> 03:18:55.600 it and Steve and I are sitting there at the 3923 03:18:55.639 --> 03:18:59.719 bar alone having a beer. I don't even remember leaving 3924 03:18:59.719 --> 03:19:01.520 the room. We're walking back to the bar. I was 3925 03:19:01.600 --> 03:19:04.639 just in a daze from sleep deprivation, but somehow made 3926 03:19:04.680 --> 03:19:07.200 it to the stool with Steve for a nightcap to 3927 03:19:07.440 --> 03:19:09.479 end the mother of all road trips. Sure you didn't 3928 03:19:09.479 --> 03:19:12.719 take a pill? Are you sure you didn't just fall 3929 03:19:12.799 --> 03:19:16.760 sleep with the bar leon Now the way Steve tells 3930 03:19:16.799 --> 03:19:18.479 the story, I wandered down the hall in nothing but 3931 03:19:18.600 --> 03:19:22.600 my underwear, no shirt, no shoes, no shorts, no problem. 3932 03:19:24.920 --> 03:19:27.680 He claims. He looked over at me as I sat 3933 03:19:27.799 --> 03:19:28.920 down and couldn't believe his eyes. 3934 03:19:28.959 --> 03:19:32.879 Steve says, no, there were there four star hotel in 3935 03:19:32.959 --> 03:19:35.639 England and out of nowhere comes a four and twenty 3936 03:19:35.680 --> 03:19:38.120 pound man and nothing but his nothing but his. 3937 03:19:38.159 --> 03:19:41.920 Tied of whities. Yep, he says. He looked me over 3938 03:19:42.079 --> 03:19:44.399 for only a few seconds and hmm, and then he 3939 03:19:44.440 --> 03:19:48.920 shrugged it off. Hey man, what's going on? Unbelievable. Only 3940 03:19:48.959 --> 03:19:54.440 wrestlers say, oh no, I couldn't see. I want a beer. 3941 03:19:55.479 --> 03:19:57.559 The thing is Steve was out of it. Not only 3942 03:19:57.680 --> 03:19:59.520 do you have to endure the same exact trip that 3943 03:19:59.600 --> 03:20:01.719 I had, but he already had a few beers and 3944 03:20:01.799 --> 03:20:03.799 him on top of that, his judgment had to be 3945 03:20:03.879 --> 03:20:06.719 off on the whole underwear thing. I may have been 3946 03:20:06.760 --> 03:20:08.879 a little punch drunk from jet lag, but I was 3947 03:20:08.959 --> 03:20:10.440 not walking around the hotel in the middle of the 3948 03:20:10.520 --> 03:20:14.639 night in some sweet fruit of the loom. Seriously, they 3949 03:20:14.680 --> 03:20:17.840 were white shorts. Oh so we're still topless and no shoes, 3950 03:20:18.000 --> 03:20:24.680 just wearing fucking you know, like white sorts or box 3951 03:20:24.760 --> 03:20:27.559 of briefs. Yeah, don't don't say, don't say I had 3952 03:20:28.079 --> 03:20:32.799 underwear on. Yeah, right, exactly what I was wearing bike shorts, 3953 03:20:32.840 --> 03:20:37.840 for fock's sake, Really tight white bike shorts. That's all 3954 03:20:37.920 --> 03:20:42.239 we need from fucking Voder. They were white shorts, you know, 3955 03:20:42.399 --> 03:20:44.360 like those trunks should go to the gym with right. 3956 03:20:44.559 --> 03:20:46.879 You know, you don't really think that for one second 3957 03:20:46.920 --> 03:20:49.399 that big Van Vader would go parading around a public 3958 03:20:49.479 --> 03:20:52.000 place in a big city nothing but his skivvies, do you? 3959 03:20:53.959 --> 03:20:57.600 Or maybe I was? It's a long flight. Either way, 3960 03:20:57.639 --> 03:20:59.799 Steve and I just sat there talking and started drinking 3961 03:20:59.840 --> 03:21:02.559 more beer, like it's nobody's business. We started by talking 3962 03:21:02.559 --> 03:21:10.360 about the burn deal. We started talking about the burn 3963 03:21:10.479 --> 03:21:13.000 deal WSW gave us on this tour. Then we talked 3964 03:21:13.000 --> 03:21:14.879 a little bit about some matches, and all of a sudden, 3965 03:21:15.079 --> 03:21:19.200 all hell broke loose. Yes, there was banging, hanging and banging. 3966 03:21:19.239 --> 03:21:23.479 Dude broller right concerning there was a loud crash. There 3967 03:21:23.559 --> 03:21:25.920 was a glass breaking well with Steve Austin, I imagine 3968 03:21:25.920 --> 03:21:29.040 so coming from my background in Compton, I thought there 3969 03:21:29.120 --> 03:21:31.639 was some kind of robbery going on. Neither one of 3970 03:21:31.719 --> 03:21:34.159 us could really see what had happened both, but we 3971 03:21:34.399 --> 03:21:37.280 both jumped off the stools and headed for the noise. 3972 03:21:37.799 --> 03:21:40.040 It wasn't clear exactly where the sound was coming from, 3973 03:21:40.200 --> 03:21:42.680 but one thing was for certain. Somebody was in a 3974 03:21:42.760 --> 03:21:46.799 violent fight and it was still going on. I walked 3975 03:21:46.879 --> 03:21:48.680 further in that direction, and the next thing I know, 3976 03:21:49.239 --> 03:21:52.479 man Sid comes walking right up next to me. Sid. 3977 03:21:53.360 --> 03:21:54.440 What the hell that knows? 3978 03:21:55.600 --> 03:21:58.920 Sid didn't say anything. That memory serves me well. I 3979 03:21:59.000 --> 03:22:01.040 didn't realize that he was hurt until I looked down, 3980 03:22:01.639 --> 03:22:03.360 either just to the left of his belly button or 3981 03:22:03.479 --> 03:22:06.959 just to the right. Sid had a dark, nasty hole 3982 03:22:07.280 --> 03:22:11.479 in him. Wow, the size of a penny, and a 3983 03:22:11.559 --> 03:22:14.639 black trickle started to pull spill out under the floor. 3984 03:22:16.559 --> 03:22:18.879 He wasn't doing the Frankenstein walk and couldn't He was 3985 03:22:18.959 --> 03:22:21.760 doing the Frankenstein walk and couldn't hear me. I shook 3986 03:22:21.799 --> 03:22:23.719 him and looked him in the looked him in the eye, Sid. 3987 03:22:24.719 --> 03:22:27.799 Sid look at me. I was grabbing him. I was 3988 03:22:27.799 --> 03:22:31.280 grabbing both his shoulders. What happened? He stopped moving around 3989 03:22:31.280 --> 03:22:33.479 and tried to focus on me. He swallowed hard and 3990 03:22:33.600 --> 03:22:36.559 found difficulty in talking at first. Then he focused it 3991 03:22:36.600 --> 03:22:41.360 and said and just said Leon. Sid lifted his palms 3992 03:22:41.399 --> 03:22:43.559 and looked down at his stomach. He put his hand 3993 03:22:43.600 --> 03:22:46.360 on it again and immediately turned red. Sid tried to 3994 03:22:46.399 --> 03:22:48.719 pull away from me, but I held him there Sid. 3995 03:22:49.440 --> 03:22:52.280 Since they still I looked at the hole and it 3996 03:22:52.319 --> 03:22:55.760 was getting worse. A nickel sized stream of dark, gooey 3997 03:22:55.879 --> 03:22:59.280 blood squirted out every time his heart pumped, Oh God, 3998 03:22:59.799 --> 03:23:03.360 and dump under the floor. It launched out of his 3999 03:23:03.440 --> 03:23:06.760 body about four inches before it fell down. It wasn't 4000 03:23:06.799 --> 03:23:10.840 trickling down his stomach. It was projectile squirting outwards. Wow. 4001 03:23:11.520 --> 03:23:14.479 Sid's mouth opened, but there were no words. More syrup 4002 03:23:14.680 --> 03:23:17.879 like blood spurted out about two to three inches and 4003 03:23:18.040 --> 03:23:21.440 dropped again to the splatter pile collecting on the floor. 4004 03:23:22.440 --> 03:23:24.799 He was not gonna last long like this. He'll bleed 4005 03:23:24.879 --> 03:23:28.280 to death. Sid, trust me, I said. I grabbed one 4006 03:23:28.319 --> 03:23:31.280 of the chairs off the floor and pulled it up 4007 03:23:31.319 --> 03:23:33.200 to Maybe it's the one that was twenty feet away. 4008 03:23:33.079 --> 03:23:34.559 As they broke off the leg and threw it down 4009 03:23:34.600 --> 03:23:35.040 the hallway. 4010 03:23:35.319 --> 03:23:38.440 Yeah, and pulled it up to Sid's paling body. I 4011 03:23:38.520 --> 03:23:41.120 got eye level with the deep laceration and sat down. 4012 03:23:41.200 --> 03:23:43.879 I said, Sid, you gonna trust me? Okay, don't move. 4013 03:23:44.360 --> 03:23:47.600 Are you're gonna die? Sid looked like a like you 4014 03:23:47.639 --> 03:23:50.360 saw ghost. He didn't speak, but watched me measure each 4015 03:23:51.040 --> 03:23:54.200 of my fingertips up to the open spout on his stomach. 4016 03:23:54.920 --> 03:23:57.559 Once I realized that I needed my thickest finger to 4017 03:23:57.680 --> 03:24:01.120 do the job, I stuck out my thumb like little 4018 03:24:03.639 --> 03:24:09.520 like little Jack Horner, you're a fucking idiot, stupid fucking analogy, 4019 03:24:10.399 --> 03:24:14.440 you know, like you couldn't think of it, Like you 4020 03:24:14.479 --> 03:24:15.200 don't even need to. 4021 03:24:15.239 --> 03:24:18.040 Fucking he's saving a man's life. Listen, I'm with you, 4022 03:24:18.479 --> 03:24:20.040 but don't compare yourself to the little Jack like. You 4023 03:24:20.079 --> 03:24:22.319 don't need to do that at this point. Just save 4024 03:24:22.360 --> 03:24:22.959 his fucking life. 4025 03:24:23.159 --> 03:24:25.440 Compare yourself the tim Horner. Maybe, Yeah, there you go, 4026 03:24:27.079 --> 03:24:30.440 and pushed. It was more like the legend of Hans Brinka. 4027 03:24:32.159 --> 03:24:34.120 You know the story of the little Dutch boy who 4028 03:24:34.200 --> 03:24:36.559 saves his country from a flood by sticking his finger 4029 03:24:36.600 --> 03:24:41.360 in a leaking dike. Ex I thought you stuck your 4030 03:24:41.399 --> 03:24:47.440 finger and sid The boy stays there all night in 4031 03:24:47.479 --> 03:24:49.479 spite of the cold, until the adults of the village 4032 03:24:49.520 --> 03:24:52.639 find him and make the necessary repairs. In the end, 4033 03:24:52.719 --> 03:24:54.360 he was a hero and save the village from a 4034 03:24:54.399 --> 03:24:57.079 broken dam I'll see, Vata wants me be the hero 4035 03:24:57.200 --> 03:25:01.239 of the broken damn save broken goddamn. Yeah, damn. He's 4036 03:25:01.239 --> 03:25:05.079 standing there saying, damn, what the hell you doing? Yeah, God, damn, 4037 03:25:05.120 --> 03:25:06.920 vadd what are you doing over there? Said squirting on 4038 03:25:07.000 --> 03:25:11.200 the gammick yeah, yeah, sid digged over there, hell said, 4039 03:25:11.239 --> 03:25:13.760 I never had you for a squirt or sign squ. 4040 03:25:13.879 --> 03:25:16.000 Said, I don't know you're poort hot over here? The 4041 03:25:16.079 --> 03:25:18.559 hell's going on? God, damn Vador, What are you sticking 4042 03:25:18.600 --> 03:25:19.280 this som in there for? 4043 03:25:19.639 --> 03:25:22.319 Can we take a moment to reconsider the hotel staff? Okay, 4044 03:25:22.680 --> 03:25:28.639 the wrestlers come in, Yes, crack of dawn. Convince them 4045 03:25:28.680 --> 03:25:30.479 to force them to open the bar. 4046 03:25:31.520 --> 03:25:31.719 Yes. 4047 03:25:31.879 --> 03:25:35.200 One wrestler, the biggest, nastiest, smelliest guy you've ever seen 4048 03:25:35.200 --> 03:25:38.040 in your life, comes out with nothing but brief brief 4049 03:25:38.079 --> 03:25:41.319 song essentially, or boxers on and sit to the bar 4050 03:25:41.520 --> 03:25:42.479 and complete violent. 4051 03:25:42.239 --> 03:25:45.840 Imagine Okay again just just picture him. But you're lean, white, 4052 03:25:45.920 --> 03:25:51.639 stumbling in a daze with nothing but box your brief song. 4053 03:25:51.600 --> 03:25:56.399 No problem in a swanky hotel bar after you know, 4054 03:25:56.440 --> 03:26:00.520 a nine hour road trip. They see that the hall already, 4055 03:26:01.079 --> 03:26:05.040 the inconvenience already, the breach of protocol already, and they 4056 03:26:05.520 --> 03:26:08.399 finally makes peace with it somehow. And then here comes 4057 03:26:08.440 --> 03:26:12.559 another wrestler, and he has shattered two glass doors. 4058 03:26:12.319 --> 03:26:12.840 On the way down. 4059 03:26:12.879 --> 03:26:15.680 According to too gold Scorpio, he is walking like a 4060 03:26:15.799 --> 03:26:18.360 zombie and he is squirting projectile blood out of his 4061 03:26:18.479 --> 03:26:21.680 side a mile away, and the wrestler without a shirt 4062 03:26:21.719 --> 03:26:23.639 on is tackling him to the floor and sticking his 4063 03:26:23.799 --> 03:26:29.840 thumb in the hole. And this is my night at work, Neville. 4064 03:26:30.200 --> 03:26:32.639 See what they couldn't do? Nover? There is some man 4065 03:26:32.760 --> 03:26:34.639 sticking the thumb in a man's body. 4066 03:26:37.360 --> 03:26:37.520 Is he. 4067 03:26:39.000 --> 03:26:39.680 Is he hurt? 4068 03:26:41.840 --> 03:26:42.000 Well? 4069 03:26:42.079 --> 03:26:44.520 I think the gent is hurt. I thought, you know, 4070 03:26:44.680 --> 03:26:48.399 I don't mean to be insensitive at this time, but 4071 03:26:48.440 --> 03:26:49.719 I thought all the ship was fiting. 4072 03:26:49.879 --> 03:26:54.879 Oh that's a hell. We need we need some help. 4073 03:26:55.719 --> 03:26:57.879 My friend here is really in dire straits. He's bleeding 4074 03:26:57.879 --> 03:27:01.239 all over the place. Wait, the tricks of the trades 4075 03:27:01.600 --> 03:27:03.079 we were quite familiar. 4076 03:27:03.159 --> 03:27:06.319 And we do you mean you mean quote unquote really 4077 03:27:08.200 --> 03:27:11.760 he's putting that end quotes are he's bleeding again? More 4078 03:27:11.840 --> 03:27:17.479 ketch up? Maybe? Yeah? The blood package. Keeping your trunks? 4079 03:27:18.239 --> 03:27:19.600 What you do you keep me in your trunks when 4080 03:27:19.600 --> 03:27:22.280 you travel? That's pretty good. That's pretty good. It's it's 4081 03:27:22.319 --> 03:27:24.520 probably a smart move. You never know when you get 4082 03:27:24.559 --> 03:27:27.159 to kind of, you know, convince the fans, you know 4083 03:27:27.959 --> 03:27:35.280 your base worked at this hotel. Okay, it's pretty good, 4084 03:27:35.319 --> 03:27:37.239 it's pretty good. It's pretty pretty convincing. Take a look 4085 03:27:37.280 --> 03:27:40.600 at this. Is that a real chair that you guys bring? 4086 03:27:40.760 --> 03:27:46.399 Something a proper wrong with you off? You know, one 4087 03:27:46.440 --> 03:27:49.040 time I was over at the you know, I flew 4088 03:27:49.079 --> 03:27:50.680 over and took a trip to the States. I saw 4089 03:27:51.200 --> 03:27:52.879 I saw a wrestling match. I saw the whole thing. 4090 03:27:52.959 --> 03:27:56.120 You know, you guys, you know you hit yourselves with 4091 03:27:56.200 --> 03:27:59.479 the chairs, and you know you do the moves and 4092 03:27:59.600 --> 03:28:01.520 you're talk each other over the top ropes and ship 4093 03:28:01.639 --> 03:28:03.319 like that. I get it, you know, I see it. 4094 03:28:03.760 --> 03:28:05.920 I don't believe it, you know, just you know, I don't. 4095 03:28:05.920 --> 03:28:07.520 I don't buy it one bit. I can see where 4096 03:28:07.520 --> 03:28:07.879 it's fake. 4097 03:28:08.200 --> 03:28:12.639 Never Yeah, fancy that they even find a way to 4098 03:28:12.799 --> 03:28:14.840 make it smell like iron smell smell. 4099 03:28:14.600 --> 03:28:16.600 The blood, I think, you know that's what. It's crazy, 4100 03:28:16.959 --> 03:28:20.399 that's very you got you guys met you guys melt 4101 03:28:20.440 --> 03:28:21.840 like copper or something like that, and you put it 4102 03:28:21.879 --> 03:28:25.000 inside the blood capsules that you do because like homemade. 4103 03:28:25.680 --> 03:28:28.200 But that's fantastic. You're not going to help my friend, 4104 03:28:28.280 --> 03:28:33.040 are you? What it's like? What understand? 4105 03:28:33.079 --> 03:28:33.120 What? 4106 03:28:33.200 --> 03:28:34.680 What do you want to help? Someone I know doesn't 4107 03:28:34.680 --> 03:28:38.559 need helping because he's just faking. You got your own 4108 03:28:38.680 --> 03:28:41.000 Jack Horner here. That would be you know, look at that, 4109 03:28:41.079 --> 03:28:42.680 look at you know, it's it's like I can see it. 4110 03:28:42.760 --> 03:28:44.559 I can see he's folded his thumb over. He's not 4111 03:28:45.000 --> 03:28:47.520 taking his thumb in there. I've seen magic tricks. I've 4112 03:28:47.520 --> 03:28:52.719 seen David Copperfield. Listen that I'm more about the illusion, 4113 03:28:53.000 --> 03:28:55.879 all right, listen't he listen. I'll tell you what. Honestly, 4114 03:28:56.200 --> 03:28:59.840 the secret safe with me, right, I won't tell you 4115 03:29:00.319 --> 03:29:01.639 tell this story. I'll tell you hey, you know what. 4116 03:29:01.719 --> 03:29:04.479 Oh yeah, these these these blokes over here, they fucking fought, 4117 03:29:04.600 --> 03:29:08.079 you know, big deal. You know, talk about how crazy 4118 03:29:08.159 --> 03:29:09.479 or not it was, and I won't tell anyone that 4119 03:29:09.600 --> 03:29:11.280 you know, it was all. It was all put on, 4120 03:29:11.399 --> 03:29:11.559 you know. 4121 03:29:11.879 --> 03:29:15.200 Fast forward eight hours after the shift, Nigel arrives back 4122 03:29:15.239 --> 03:29:17.399 at the flat. It was an overnight, so it's like 4123 03:29:17.520 --> 03:29:19.879 eight am, and he makes it accustomed to keep you know, 4124 03:29:19.920 --> 03:29:22.319 household harmony, to have you know, maybe a twenty thirty 4125 03:29:22.360 --> 03:29:24.440 minute conversation with his wife in the kitchen after she's 4126 03:29:24.479 --> 03:29:26.200 brought the kids to school about how his day was. 4127 03:29:26.239 --> 03:29:28.399 Before he sleeps, you know, for the you know, for 4128 03:29:28.479 --> 03:29:30.559 the morning, to prepare for the next shift, and she's 4129 03:29:30.760 --> 03:29:34.319 washing she's washing dishes. She says, Neville, how was your day? 4130 03:29:34.559 --> 03:29:35.399 What happened today? 4131 03:29:36.200 --> 03:29:38.159 Bybe I gotta tell you something. I'll tell you something 4132 03:29:38.200 --> 03:29:43.239 that was just totally totally bunkers. Yeah, I'm just you know, 4133 03:29:43.600 --> 03:29:45.920 just you know, usually overnight shift, you know, it's kind 4134 03:29:45.959 --> 03:29:49.360 of peaceful. She's pretty quiet. You know, nobody, he know, 4135 03:29:49.600 --> 03:29:51.360 nobody really crazy walks in. But all of a sudden, 4136 03:29:51.399 --> 03:29:53.319 you know, here we are, and all of a sudden, 4137 03:29:53.399 --> 03:29:57.280 this this bus pulls up right, his buss pull up 4138 03:29:57.399 --> 03:29:59.200 was it's always fucking wrestless. 4139 03:30:00.639 --> 03:30:03.479 And I don't know, I don't exaggerate what I say. 4140 03:30:03.520 --> 03:30:06.520 It looked like an unload and unloading of a clown car. 4141 03:30:06.680 --> 03:30:08.600 At the ceremony, It's like it's like a it's like 4142 03:30:08.680 --> 03:30:13.440 a fucking circus. Here comes hulking masses, all shapes, sizes, 4143 03:30:14.200 --> 03:30:16.719 all colors and creeds, and they're coming straight for us, 4144 03:30:16.920 --> 03:30:18.680 and they demand food and they demand drink. 4145 03:30:19.079 --> 03:30:23.239 Babe, you've never seen men with heads this big. They're gigantic. 4146 03:30:23.760 --> 03:30:27.760 It's fucking crazy. And they come in and they're fucking hungry. 4147 03:30:28.040 --> 03:30:30.959 They're already drunk, but they want more drink. They want 4148 03:30:31.000 --> 03:30:32.840 the bar open, you know, they want the bar open, 4149 03:30:32.879 --> 03:30:34.319 and you know, here we are, like, you know, we 4150 03:30:34.479 --> 03:30:36.479 cleaned up already. There you kind of put it so, 4151 03:30:36.680 --> 03:30:38.680 you know, I talked to you know, I talked to 4152 03:30:38.760 --> 03:30:42.000 Nigel and he said, you know, just just give them 4153 03:30:42.040 --> 03:30:45.319 some fucking you know, give them some of the meat pies. 4154 03:30:45.760 --> 03:30:47.719 I sid, all right, you know, get them throwsy, you know, 4155 03:30:47.719 --> 03:30:50.200 the easiest things to do to throw them some meat pies. 4156 03:30:50.239 --> 03:30:52.159 And all of a sudden we throw them in in 4157 03:30:52.239 --> 03:30:54.120 the oven. You know, it takes in the micro away. 4158 03:30:55.079 --> 03:30:58.360 And also we come out there and it's like they're 4159 03:30:58.399 --> 03:31:01.159 fucking throwing beer at each other. I was like, what 4160 03:31:01.319 --> 03:31:04.600 the fuck is this? You know, I'm like, they're putting 4161 03:31:04.639 --> 03:31:08.319 on a show for us. Thought there's nobody. Yeah, there's 4162 03:31:08.360 --> 03:31:10.239 nobody in the fucking hotel. So was it part of 4163 03:31:11.600 --> 03:31:12.799 It's like, it's this part of the act. 4164 03:31:12.879 --> 03:31:15.719 Yeah, they're gonna put it on for everybody because you know, 4165 03:31:16.159 --> 03:31:17.440 you know, when they're on TV, they got it. 4166 03:31:17.440 --> 03:31:18.920 They're like, oh, yeah, I hate you, I hate you. 4167 03:31:19.799 --> 03:31:23.639 But my grandfather used to watch the grandfather just watched 4168 03:31:23.680 --> 03:31:25.760 a bit. Remember Daddy was number A. 4169 03:31:26.639 --> 03:31:29.239 Yeah, you got big Daddy and you got the you know, 4170 03:31:29.360 --> 03:31:37.440 I mean you've seen you've seen pat roach bomba yeah, 4171 03:31:38.600 --> 03:31:39.639 you know. And then all of a sudden, you know 4172 03:31:39.719 --> 03:31:41.000 that all right, that they do their thing and they 4173 03:31:41.079 --> 03:31:43.520 go to their rooms and I'm thinking, all right, I'm 4174 03:31:43.600 --> 03:31:46.200 just gonna, you know, close up shop, if you will, 4175 03:31:46.840 --> 03:31:49.760 And all of a sudden, they put on another show. 4176 03:31:51.040 --> 03:31:52.079 I was like, what the fuck is this? 4177 03:31:52.879 --> 03:31:55.799 They put on another show for all of us. 4178 03:31:57.399 --> 03:31:57.719 It was. 4179 03:31:58.280 --> 03:32:01.840 It was absolutely insane. It was so fucking wild. 4180 03:32:02.079 --> 03:32:04.959 They went to the trouble of calling the fuzz and 4181 03:32:05.120 --> 03:32:08.639 having them come to the hotel and actually they arrest 4182 03:32:08.760 --> 03:32:11.959 some of these people. It was the most realistic thing 4183 03:32:11.959 --> 03:32:12.600 you've ever seen. 4184 03:32:12.719 --> 03:32:14.680 Jane. Let me tell you. I want to tell you something, right, 4185 03:32:15.920 --> 03:32:19.879 they actually put in They told me this. They melt pennies, 4186 03:32:20.559 --> 03:32:27.079 American pennies. They melt American pennies, and they put in 4187 03:32:27.120 --> 03:32:32.559 their blood caplets so it smells like iron. That's now, 4188 03:32:32.719 --> 03:32:35.280 I'll tell you what, you know what, that's commitment. I've 4189 03:32:35.319 --> 03:32:37.440 seen a lot of commitment in a lot of different places, 4190 03:32:37.479 --> 03:32:39.440 but that was fucking commitment. I mean, it was chaos 4191 03:32:39.520 --> 03:32:40.799 and it was a lot of stress. But at the 4192 03:32:40.879 --> 03:32:42.319 end of the day, I do have to respect their 4193 03:32:42.360 --> 03:32:45.239 trade craft, you know, I said, you know, I want 4194 03:32:45.280 --> 03:32:46.680 to tell them. I said, yeah, look, I get it. 4195 03:32:46.719 --> 03:32:49.719 I get it. I get it absolutely, you know, I've 4196 03:32:49.760 --> 03:32:52.920 seen it all. I get it. It's fake. Fan, It's fine, 4197 03:32:52.959 --> 03:32:54.799 I don't I said, you know what you seeker safe 4198 03:32:54.840 --> 03:32:56.159 with me? Did you say there was a man without 4199 03:32:56.159 --> 03:32:58.319 a shirt on and all this? Oh, let me tell 4200 03:32:58.319 --> 03:33:00.840 you that was the best part. It was the best part. 4201 03:33:00.920 --> 03:33:03.879 All right. So here we are right see, we're just 4202 03:33:04.079 --> 03:33:05.959 you know, just mine my own business, mine of my 4203 03:33:06.000 --> 03:33:09.639 own business. It's wander around, you know, totting up whenever 4204 03:33:09.719 --> 03:33:13.920 I had to all of a sudden, this man must 4205 03:33:14.000 --> 03:33:18.879 be like, what maybe seven feet tall? All right, seven 4206 03:33:19.000 --> 03:33:25.600 feet tall, must weigh at least six hundred six hundred stone. Well, yeah, 4207 03:33:25.639 --> 03:33:28.600 that would actually be accurate. Must weigh he must weigh 4208 03:33:28.639 --> 03:33:30.760 at least six hundred stone, which is gonna be like 4209 03:33:30.840 --> 03:33:41.000 what like fucking eight thousand pounds? All right, he's bulging, 4210 03:33:41.600 --> 03:33:43.559 he's got this red hair, he's got this he's got 4211 03:33:43.600 --> 03:33:51.639 a double mohawks. He's got he's got this double mohawk, 4212 03:33:51.680 --> 03:33:53.559 all right, one on each the corner of his head. 4213 03:33:54.120 --> 03:33:56.840 He's an ugly motherfucker. Have you ever seen one? Just 4214 03:33:56.920 --> 03:33:58.440 one of the most ugliest men I've ever seen in 4215 03:33:58.440 --> 03:34:01.440 my life. So he comes in and he's he's drunk, 4216 03:34:02.799 --> 03:34:07.120 He's fucking drunk, and he's like, he's just a complete mess, 4217 03:34:07.360 --> 03:34:09.959 and he's headed for the party and he's wearing nothing 4218 03:34:10.399 --> 03:34:11.120 but it's skivvyes. 4219 03:34:14.680 --> 03:34:15.360 What the fuck? 4220 03:34:17.079 --> 03:34:18.920 This was one of the most craziest nights of my life. 4221 03:34:19.159 --> 03:34:24.760 I don't even know that heads off school went fine. 4222 03:34:24.840 --> 03:34:25.639 That's great, that's great. 4223 03:34:25.639 --> 03:34:27.840 I think you've had a quite quite eventful night there. 4224 03:34:29.120 --> 03:34:30.600 Usually I make we'll get a couple of winks in 4225 03:34:30.719 --> 03:34:34.159 when i'm you know, just because it's you know, overnight shift. 4226 03:34:34.159 --> 03:34:36.280 You know, not much happens, and so I usually get 4227 03:34:36.280 --> 03:34:38.719 a couple of winks in before you're during the middle 4228 03:34:38.719 --> 03:34:40.200 of the shift. But this time, I'll tell you with these, 4229 03:34:40.280 --> 03:34:41.920 with these, with these fucking. 4230 03:34:41.680 --> 03:34:45.159 Winkers, sounds stress sounds stressful. Hand, but at least at 4231 03:34:45.280 --> 03:34:47.000 least one thing, at least we can hold on to 4232 03:34:47.079 --> 03:34:47.879 one thing, you know what that is? 4233 03:34:48.399 --> 03:34:49.680 What's that? It's all fake? 4234 03:34:51.399 --> 03:34:53.760 Yeah, I will say, you know, the one. The one 4235 03:34:53.840 --> 03:34:55.920 good thing is we got a couple of shows out 4236 03:34:55.920 --> 03:34:58.840 of it, you know, a couple of free shows. So 4237 03:35:00.520 --> 03:35:02.440 and I don't need to go see that fake shit anymore. 4238 03:35:03.319 --> 03:35:04.399 And that's for a while. 4239 03:35:04.760 --> 03:35:08.559 Sid and Vader and the rest cost WCW two customers 4240 03:35:08.600 --> 03:35:11.319 in the United Kingdom on that night. That was the 4241 03:35:11.360 --> 03:35:14.639 real tragedy. For all the work they put in. 4242 03:35:16.120 --> 03:35:21.559 Eh, there's some funny shit. They yeah, that's right, Sorry, Leona, 4243 03:35:21.639 --> 03:35:28.120 we interrupted you. Yeah, uh o, condamn. The only difference 4244 03:35:28.120 --> 03:35:29.959 in the case was this hole was a little more 4245 03:35:30.040 --> 03:35:34.639 gross and a lot more red. I slowly eased my 4246 03:35:34.719 --> 03:35:45.399 thumb into that hole. God don't google this. Yeah, blood 4247 03:35:45.559 --> 03:35:48.600 oozed out down my wrist and I paid it no mind. 4248 03:35:49.239 --> 03:35:53.680 I pushed my I pushed my digit higher up in 4249 03:35:53.760 --> 03:35:54.760 that gaping slit. 4250 03:35:55.200 --> 03:35:58.120 Jesus, calm down, dude, I'm trying to make yourself calm. 4251 03:35:58.159 --> 03:36:01.200 Writing this sounds he just gotta being. When he put 4252 03:36:01.239 --> 03:36:06.799 his cock in the hole, look, my mind went there. 4253 03:36:06.840 --> 03:36:11.879 I mean said, say, I'm putting my fucking cock in 4254 03:36:11.959 --> 03:36:16.360 your hole. And then, as if that wasn't outrageous enough, 4255 03:36:17.600 --> 03:36:20.879 he takes out his wing man. Look, the big elephant man, 4256 03:36:21.559 --> 03:36:24.479 the big beastie one with the with the skivvies. He 4257 03:36:24.639 --> 03:36:28.520 fucking takes his pants down, all right, and he acts 4258 03:36:28.559 --> 03:36:33.520 like he's putting his cock in a fucking hole in 4259 03:36:33.600 --> 03:36:35.879 the fucking wound, the fake wound. He's sticking his cock 4260 03:36:35.920 --> 03:36:42.000 on this man's flesh. Listen again, I'll tell you what 4261 03:36:42.120 --> 03:36:50.479 right now, the commitment is bonkers, absolutely bonkers, just fucking crazy. 4262 03:36:52.520 --> 03:36:54.520 And you know, I'll tell you what. You know, he's exhausting, 4263 03:36:54.840 --> 03:36:57.120 He's absolutely exhausting. I had to get a fucking sandwich 4264 03:36:57.159 --> 03:37:02.000 in my way home, Eh, just fucking crazy. Got myself 4265 03:37:02.040 --> 03:37:02.799 a cheese sandwich. 4266 03:37:02.959 --> 03:37:05.319 That's the craziest part of this whole thing is I 4267 03:37:05.760 --> 03:37:07.680 got a sandwich on the way home. That's how gotten too. 4268 03:37:07.719 --> 03:37:08.479 I was why all this. 4269 03:37:09.920 --> 03:37:11.399 Because you know I don't like to eat, you know, 4270 03:37:11.600 --> 03:37:14.799 before I go to bed in the morning, so you 4271 03:37:14.879 --> 03:37:17.559 know when I worked to not shift, but I couldn't 4272 03:37:17.600 --> 03:37:20.200 help myself. I was so worked up. I'd to go 4273 03:37:20.319 --> 03:37:28.399 and I got myself a cheese on white bread. That's 4274 03:37:28.639 --> 03:37:29.959 fucking delicious. 4275 03:37:39.120 --> 03:37:43.680 Oh shit, Uh, blood oozed out down my wrist and 4276 03:37:43.680 --> 03:37:46.040 I paid it no mind. I pushed my dish higher 4277 03:37:46.079 --> 03:37:50.799 up into his gaping, hurting me. He said, with his 4278 03:37:50.879 --> 03:37:53.920 knees beginning to buckle under him. You gotta take it, said, 4279 03:37:54.479 --> 03:37:55.360 you gotta take it now. 4280 03:37:55.639 --> 03:37:59.319 On I wriggled it around, and why are you making 4281 03:37:59.319 --> 03:38:02.399 it worse, dude, Yeah, it move it around a little bit, 4282 03:38:02.559 --> 03:38:04.200 like just stick it in and stop moving. 4283 03:38:05.479 --> 03:38:05.680 Hand. 4284 03:38:05.760 --> 03:38:10.840 He's got it. I wriggled it around and and one 4285 03:38:11.000 --> 03:38:13.879 real thick glob hung off of my wrist like a 4286 03:38:14.040 --> 03:38:17.719 roasted I know, I know, I remember this part, Oh 4287 03:38:17.760 --> 03:38:25.200 my god, like a roasted red pepper. I finally got 4288 03:38:25.239 --> 03:38:27.559 in there a little bit more and the hole conformed 4289 03:38:27.680 --> 03:38:29.079 around my knuckle. 4290 03:38:30.399 --> 03:38:33.360 And then I found a fucking uh Publano pepper, and 4291 03:38:33.399 --> 03:38:35.959 then I found a clove of garlic. 4292 03:38:36.040 --> 03:38:37.959 All of a sudden, there were there were peppers all 4293 03:38:38.000 --> 03:38:38.760 over the floor. 4294 03:38:40.079 --> 03:38:44.280 Because I was eating with my other hand, because I 4295 03:38:44.319 --> 03:38:45.639 had a back of peppers on my right. 4296 03:38:45.840 --> 03:38:47.760 I always give a back of peppers by my side. 4297 03:38:48.040 --> 03:38:49.760 The damnedest thing I ever saw, you know how, I said, 4298 03:38:49.840 --> 03:38:52.120 Leon at one point got a little hungry order to Casadia. 4299 03:38:52.920 --> 03:38:55.639 I shit you not, son, he's got one hand in 4300 03:38:55.799 --> 03:39:00.559 Sid's fucking, you know, uh bottomless pit hole on the 4301 03:39:00.600 --> 03:39:01.280 side of his body. 4302 03:39:01.360 --> 03:39:03.159 Other hand eating the case. 4303 03:39:02.959 --> 03:39:06.520 Of goddamn, he's gonna, you know, he's he's gonna gonna 4304 03:39:06.559 --> 03:39:09.559 stump up on Sid's hole on one side all the shot. 4305 03:39:09.559 --> 03:39:12.479 He's got a bag full of catching dish, and I said, 4306 03:39:12.520 --> 03:39:14.040 damn song, whatere'd you get the goddamn ketch. 4307 03:39:14.840 --> 03:39:17.159 I'm worried about eating, and I'm looking at this thing. 4308 03:39:17.479 --> 03:39:19.920 I'm sizing it up, and I'm thinking, I can't get 4309 03:39:19.959 --> 03:39:22.399 more absurd than this. This is the tableau of the century. 4310 03:39:22.799 --> 03:39:24.600 And then I look down. I realized, No, there's one 4311 03:39:24.639 --> 03:39:27.000 more absurdity to it. Not only does he have his 4312 03:39:27.120 --> 03:39:29.120 finger in sids hole, not only does he have a 4313 03:39:29.200 --> 03:39:30.360 case of d in his other hand. 4314 03:39:31.079 --> 03:39:35.760 He's hard. Well, that's the damn damn thing about it. 4315 03:39:35.959 --> 03:39:38.280 All of a sudden, looked down and he's gonnas fucking cock, 4316 03:39:38.360 --> 03:39:40.559 hard as a rock, poking through his damn kivvyes. 4317 03:39:46.399 --> 03:39:48.079 I assure you it was the case of DIA. They 4318 03:39:48.079 --> 03:39:50.920 got him hard and not the other thing. Absolutely it was. 4319 03:39:53.360 --> 03:39:56.719 Looking listen, sticking his finger into a wet hole is 4320 03:39:56.799 --> 03:40:00.600 not something that gets Leon White excited. I mean, that's something, 4321 03:40:01.239 --> 03:40:04.440 but you but you get melted cheese on a tortilla. 4322 03:40:04.639 --> 03:40:08.399 And now we're talking business. Oh my god, I mean, 4323 03:40:08.799 --> 03:40:18.920 I'll just come out hard right now. Instead of calling 4324 03:40:19.000 --> 03:40:21.840 for help for Sid, he's calling for help for the 4325 03:40:21.920 --> 03:40:23.920 fact that because both of his hands are occupied, he 4326 03:40:23.959 --> 03:40:27.239 can't hide his raging erection. And it's like someone to. 4327 03:40:27.280 --> 03:40:30.040 Talk me down, someone to talk about cockdown. I got 4328 03:40:30.079 --> 03:40:32.520 my finger in sin, I got my handle and kissing deal. 4329 03:40:32.760 --> 03:40:34.239 I need help putting my cock down. 4330 03:40:37.239 --> 03:40:39.799 Just lifted up, rested against my stomach and then put 4331 03:40:39.840 --> 03:40:47.559 my waistband right under the head. He's seven touch leon. 4332 03:40:47.680 --> 03:40:51.239 I mean, Jesus Christ, this thing is like forty feet 4333 03:40:51.239 --> 03:40:52.000 in circumference. 4334 03:40:52.600 --> 03:40:57.360 Fucking such a nightmare. And I was the first. 4335 03:40:57.680 --> 03:41:00.799 I took that from Tropic Thunder when he's shooting out 4336 03:41:00.840 --> 03:41:04.239 of the roof of the jeep. He loves shooting so 4337 03:41:04.399 --> 03:41:06.760 much that I think it's Ben Steeller looks at his crusches. 4338 03:41:06.799 --> 03:41:13.120 Are you hard? Awesome? There's nothing funnier than an erection 4339 03:41:13.280 --> 03:41:16.719 in a situation like that. Yeah, yeah, when something completely 4340 03:41:16.959 --> 03:41:20.239 irregular right causes a fucking boner. 4341 03:41:24.559 --> 03:41:27.520 So thank god Vader was there. I think is the 4342 03:41:27.559 --> 03:41:28.239 long and short of it. 4343 03:41:34.079 --> 03:41:34.200 Uh. 4344 03:41:34.920 --> 03:41:37.280 I wriggled around and got it. I finally got in 4345 03:41:37.399 --> 03:41:40.239 there a little bit more. No, it slowed the bleeding 4346 03:41:40.360 --> 03:41:44.520 enough and we waited. Steve Austin came up to the scene. 4347 03:41:44.600 --> 03:41:46.680 It must have looked like the darnest thing, with me 4348 03:41:46.840 --> 03:41:50.840 staring at my penetrated thumb in Sid's gut and blood 4349 03:41:50.879 --> 03:41:53.520 trickling out all over the place. He turned his. 4350 03:41:55.639 --> 03:42:06.079 He turned his head away from the horror. Gag, goddamn, goddamn. So, 4351 03:42:06.200 --> 03:42:12.520 what the hell's going on here? Oh, I'll go get help. 4352 03:42:14.360 --> 03:42:17.559 I waited there for what seemed like an eternity. Neither 4353 03:42:17.600 --> 03:42:18.200 of us talked. 4354 03:42:18.479 --> 03:42:21.879 I could feel the warm, wet goo rolling off my 4355 03:42:22.000 --> 03:42:25.479 wrist and it was the worst thing. Hand. 4356 03:42:28.479 --> 03:42:31.559 God damn said, you got to go on my Casindea, No, 4357 03:42:31.840 --> 03:42:36.440 it's the cheese. You're right still looking at chee. I 4358 03:42:36.479 --> 03:42:38.239 got melted cheese on my kids, It on my hand. 4359 03:42:38.959 --> 03:42:42.440 Goddamn you said, I got melt the cheese on my 4360 03:42:42.520 --> 03:42:46.680 case of dia. He almost said that in that moment, Steve, 4361 03:42:47.040 --> 03:42:48.479 I got melt the cheese on my case of. 4362 03:42:49.959 --> 03:42:52.600 Melted cheese about Cassa, fuk am I going to. 4363 03:42:52.639 --> 03:42:54.600 Do anything else relevant you want to tell me? 4364 03:42:54.680 --> 03:42:54.879 In this. 4365 03:42:59.440 --> 03:43:01.600 I remember looking down and seeing some of the thick 4366 03:43:01.840 --> 03:43:05.319 like syrup droplets on the floor. Finally we heard some 4367 03:43:05.399 --> 03:43:07.399 commotion of people rushing down the hall. I'm happy to 4368 03:43:07.440 --> 03:43:10.959 say that my thumb kept him alive until the ambulance came. 4369 03:43:11.680 --> 03:43:15.440 W CW should have taken some of the blame here, 4370 03:43:15.479 --> 03:43:18.639 he goes, I get it for driving us batshit crazy 4371 03:43:18.799 --> 03:43:20.879 like they did with the schedule, but of course they didn't. 4372 03:43:21.440 --> 03:43:23.200 The next day I got some more of the story. 4373 03:43:23.280 --> 03:43:25.959 Sitting on Anderson got into a major fight after we 4374 03:43:26.079 --> 03:43:27.879 left the dining hall. I thought it was a bar. 4375 03:43:29.319 --> 03:43:31.239 The fight was initially broken up by some of the 4376 03:43:31.399 --> 03:43:34.200 ww wrestlers, but the fight started up again and around 4377 03:43:34.239 --> 03:43:35.760 the time that Steve and I were having a drink 4378 03:43:35.760 --> 03:43:38.520 at the bar. The second time around, someone ended up 4379 03:43:38.520 --> 03:43:40.399 with a pair of scissors. The result was arn Anderson 4380 03:43:40.479 --> 03:43:44.319 ended up with twenty or so superficial lacerations, while Sid 4381 03:43:44.440 --> 03:43:47.959 took some very deep puncture shots to his body. Both 4382 03:43:48.079 --> 03:43:50.200 men spent the night in the hospital and were deported 4383 03:43:50.280 --> 03:43:53.440 the next day as the UK wanted nothing more to 4384 03:43:53.559 --> 03:43:58.159 do with our fucked up American wrestling bullshit. 4385 03:43:58.360 --> 03:44:01.680 He said it, said it, honey, they said, you know, 4386 03:44:02.040 --> 03:44:05.000 they said that one of them was stabbed twenty times. 4387 03:44:06.959 --> 03:44:07.239 Something. 4388 03:44:07.399 --> 03:44:09.520 They were superficial wounds at best. You're not going to 4389 03:44:09.639 --> 03:44:11.920 kidney as to whether this was a real attack. 4390 03:44:12.719 --> 03:44:16.280 I don't know, you said, tell me something. I'm aware 4391 03:44:16.319 --> 03:44:19.799 that there were some of those American carnival workers that 4392 03:44:19.920 --> 03:44:24.600 were doing some of those fixed matches and up up north. 4393 03:44:24.719 --> 03:44:27.479 Is that what I heard? Yes, yes, well all right, 4394 03:44:27.600 --> 03:44:31.760 I don't believe that we can support such a buffoonery, 4395 03:44:32.399 --> 03:44:35.239 I mean more here in the United Kingdom. I believe 4396 03:44:35.280 --> 03:44:38.520 therefore they must be deported immediately, and they must be 4397 03:44:39.159 --> 03:44:41.719 you know, whatever money they were going to make, which 4398 03:44:41.920 --> 03:44:46.440 obviously was illegally obtained, they must you know, give it 4399 03:44:46.799 --> 03:44:47.680 to us as a fine. 4400 03:44:47.799 --> 03:44:49.879 Yeah, that's a key detail, Vader, missus there. They were 4401 03:44:49.920 --> 03:44:52.760 not deported for the fight. They were deported for consumer fraud. 4402 03:44:55.159 --> 03:44:58.399 And we must tell the Americans we don't allow fraudulents 4403 03:44:58.559 --> 03:44:59.479 in the United Kingdom. 4404 03:45:01.040 --> 03:45:05.520 Next morning, Precinct, the the fuzz whatever they call themselves, 4405 03:45:05.559 --> 03:45:12.840 the net wond Hi, I'm calling. I'm calling from a 4406 03:45:12.879 --> 03:45:13.799 newspaper New York. 4407 03:45:15.239 --> 03:45:15.399 Hey. 4408 03:45:16.600 --> 03:45:22.440 Hey if Britain. Hey, Look, I'm I've worked for I 4409 03:45:22.520 --> 03:45:27.360 worked Look, I worked for a major major American publication. Ah, 4410 03:45:28.000 --> 03:45:29.399 so let me tell you, let me ask you something. 4411 03:45:30.639 --> 03:45:35.719 You guys holding a bunch of fucking fake wrestlers. They 4412 03:45:35.760 --> 03:45:37.559 were deported last night. If that's what you're referring to 4413 03:45:38.760 --> 03:45:41.000 can you tell me exactly? You know, I'm listening. I'm 4414 03:45:41.879 --> 03:45:44.920 I'm doing a story on them. You know, there are 4415 03:45:44.920 --> 03:45:47.040 a bunch of us working on this particular story about 4416 03:45:47.120 --> 03:45:50.239 really we want to expose the me that means the 4417 03:45:50.280 --> 03:45:58.159 media relations line just a moment. This is media relations 4418 03:45:58.200 --> 03:45:59.799 on it like we can't just talk to you know, 4419 03:46:00.040 --> 03:46:01.840 one person. You get the fucking scoop. I don't get it. 4420 03:46:02.639 --> 03:46:04.719 I don't get it. It's fucking England. It's why you 4421 03:46:04.760 --> 03:46:08.280 know what this is why we hello? Media relation? Yesh? Yeah, Hi, 4422 03:46:08.639 --> 03:46:12.399 I am. I am a newsletter for a major news 4423 03:46:12.440 --> 03:46:14.319 publication in the in the United States. 4424 03:46:14.479 --> 03:46:18.040 What is the publication? What what is the name of 4425 03:46:18.120 --> 03:46:18.680 the publication? 4426 03:46:19.559 --> 03:46:25.399 Uh? The City Light? Okay, the city Well, I worked 4427 03:46:25.399 --> 03:46:30.000 for the I worked for the the Binghamton Independent Gazette. 4428 03:46:30.399 --> 03:46:32.479 Oh I thought it was the City Tell Peter follow 4429 03:46:32.520 --> 03:46:34.040 I said, Hi, please go ahead. 4430 03:46:34.799 --> 03:46:38.079 Yeah, sure, sure, sure, So listen. What I want to 4431 03:46:38.120 --> 03:46:40.239 know is, can you give me any information? You know, 4432 03:46:40.280 --> 03:46:42.959 we understand that a couple that a group of Americans 4433 03:46:43.159 --> 03:46:47.000 was was supported. Yes, yes, last night and can you listen. 4434 03:46:47.079 --> 03:46:48.639 I just I was wondering if you wouldn't mind going 4435 03:46:48.639 --> 03:46:48.840 on the. 4436 03:46:48.840 --> 03:46:52.280 Record for to let us know exactly and in terms 4437 03:46:52.280 --> 03:46:54.520 of what the last night we did respond to a 4438 03:46:54.559 --> 03:46:57.239 hotel in Blackmon. I believe it was where we had 4439 03:46:57.280 --> 03:47:00.319 received reports of a of a violent altercation and and 4440 03:47:00.479 --> 03:47:03.239 and the lobby involving two wrestlers from what I believe 4441 03:47:03.360 --> 03:47:07.399 was the the w c W organization and when officers arrived. 4442 03:47:07.920 --> 03:47:08.959 So do you know what the you know what this 4443 03:47:09.120 --> 03:47:11.360 w W thing is? Are you aware of what this is? 4444 03:47:11.920 --> 03:47:14.879 But how do you mean do you know what this is? Not? 4445 03:47:15.000 --> 03:47:18.120 American Company w what they what they do? What they are? 4446 03:47:18.479 --> 03:47:18.719 They do? 4447 03:47:18.879 --> 03:47:21.680 The theatrical wrestling there the we used to call it 4448 03:47:21.799 --> 03:47:22.559 World of Sport. 4449 03:47:22.639 --> 03:47:26.319 Here we call it world of nothing because he doesn't exist. 4450 03:47:26.440 --> 03:47:29.159 It's a fake thing. It's bullshit. 4451 03:47:33.399 --> 03:47:38.559 What he goes after the cop. This guy couldn't be 4452 03:47:38.840 --> 03:47:40.440 any less responsible for this. 4453 03:47:42.399 --> 03:47:44.680 So can you can you can you repeat after me 4454 03:47:44.840 --> 03:47:46.719 that what you what they were doing was fake. 4455 03:47:46.840 --> 03:47:48.399 I'd be glad to do that, sir. Are you gonna 4456 03:47:48.440 --> 03:47:49.159 quote say it? 4457 03:47:49.280 --> 03:47:52.239 Say? Yeah, I'm gonna quote you what they do is fake? Yes, 4458 03:47:52.319 --> 03:47:54.559 it is. I'm glad. I'm glad you want to put 4459 03:47:54.559 --> 03:47:55.120 that in the story. 4460 03:47:55.280 --> 03:47:55.719 I don't want to. 4461 03:47:56.079 --> 03:47:58.920 Think me Listen to me. Listen to me. Listen. If 4462 03:47:58.920 --> 03:48:00.600 you thought it was real, I'd be fucking flying over 4463 03:48:00.639 --> 03:48:01.959 there right now and beating the ship out of you 4464 03:48:03.399 --> 03:48:05.520 with my bare hands. Yes I would. I would because 4465 03:48:05.520 --> 03:48:08.079 you know why, because everybody who fucking buys this ship 4466 03:48:08.159 --> 03:48:11.000 and watches this ship needs to be fucking beaten up 4467 03:48:14.200 --> 03:48:16.440 what you're doing from a consumer fraud point. Listen, all right, 4468 03:48:16.520 --> 03:48:18.120 so you gotta tell me something. You gotta tell me 4469 03:48:18.399 --> 03:48:19.319 why were they deported? 4470 03:48:19.799 --> 03:48:24.879 They were deported for committing incredible huh, almost inconsortably violent 4471 03:48:25.000 --> 03:48:26.360 acts on you case. 4472 03:48:27.000 --> 03:48:30.600 No, no, see, this is what happens. This is what happens. 4473 03:48:31.000 --> 03:48:34.079 Even the fucking idiot British police have been fooled and 4474 03:48:34.200 --> 03:48:38.479 fucking bamboozled by these motherfucker That's what happens, sir. I'm 4475 03:48:38.879 --> 03:48:41.159 I'm telling you exactly that nothing about it was real. 4476 03:48:42.120 --> 03:48:46.120 What you saw, the figments of your imagination, they weren't men, 4477 03:48:46.559 --> 03:48:50.239 they were illusions. That's how fake this ship is. That's 4478 03:48:50.280 --> 03:48:51.200 how deep it goes. 4479 03:48:52.840 --> 03:48:52.879 You. 4480 03:48:53.879 --> 03:48:59.680 You, good police officer, you have been fucking hoodwinked. You 4481 03:49:00.360 --> 03:49:04.360 have you've had listen, you don't know what you're talking about. 4482 03:49:04.639 --> 03:49:11.159 He calls this guy for information, and he's barely said 4483 03:49:11.200 --> 03:49:14.559 a word and he's already been accused of not knowing 4484 03:49:14.600 --> 03:49:16.920 what he's talking about. Well, sir, with all due respect, 4485 03:49:16.959 --> 03:49:18.200 if you know what happens, then. 4486 03:49:19.840 --> 03:49:22.360 You shut the fuck up and you understand something here. 4487 03:49:22.559 --> 03:49:24.920 What you need to do is execute them. 4488 03:49:26.639 --> 03:49:29.000 You need to go around and find every one of 4489 03:49:29.079 --> 03:49:32.319 these fucking carnival bitches, and you need to fucking put 4490 03:49:32.399 --> 03:49:35.959 them up on a fucking wall and have them a 4491 03:49:36.040 --> 03:49:40.040 fucking firing squad eliminate them. That's the only way you 4492 03:49:40.200 --> 03:49:44.040 can save the fucking United Kingdom from complete fall. 4493 03:49:44.399 --> 03:49:46.879 Well, they did say, a couple of them. I did 4494 03:49:46.920 --> 03:49:48.639 overhear them saying they were shooting each other. 4495 03:49:48.680 --> 03:49:52.840 I don't quite know exactly. You need to shoot them 4496 03:49:52.879 --> 03:49:54.760 first look, And I know there's a whole fucking industry 4497 03:49:54.760 --> 03:49:57.079 out there over there with these fucking these fucking uh 4498 03:49:57.399 --> 03:50:01.159 you know, theatrical bitches. Something I have it tells very 4499 03:50:01.239 --> 03:50:02.840 healthy crowds here. Yeah. 4500 03:50:02.920 --> 03:50:06.520 No, No, there's the thing. They're not healthy mentally speaking. 4501 03:50:06.559 --> 03:50:10.280 They're unhealthy. They've been brainwashed and they're thinking what they're 4502 03:50:10.360 --> 03:50:14.120 seeing is both real and or entertaining. 4503 03:50:16.639 --> 03:50:19.840 How is it? How is it healthy to be to 4504 03:50:19.920 --> 03:50:25.159 think that you're being entertained when you're actually not being entertained. Huh. 4505 03:50:25.760 --> 03:50:29.719 I don't have a response to that, right, nobody should, 4506 03:50:30.000 --> 03:50:32.840 because nobody should ever be entertained by someone that's not entertaining, 4507 03:50:33.239 --> 03:50:38.479 and these guys are not entertaining. So what would you 4508 03:50:38.559 --> 03:50:40.079 like me to do? Exactly? Gin? Can? I Can I 4509 03:50:40.120 --> 03:50:41.799 do anything else? I said what I want you to do. 4510 03:50:41.879 --> 03:50:44.399 I want you to find all these fucking fake athletes 4511 03:50:44.639 --> 03:50:46.600 and dispose of them permanent. 4512 03:50:46.879 --> 03:50:49.760 I thought you're representing a news organization calling finn. 4513 03:50:49.920 --> 03:50:52.040 I am not presenting a news organization, and I'm gonna 4514 03:50:52.040 --> 03:50:54.280 write the story about it, but I need you to 4515 03:50:54.399 --> 03:50:56.520 do your part and take care of the people of 4516 03:50:56.600 --> 03:50:59.879 England and then I'll write about it. How are you 4517 03:51:00.079 --> 03:51:01.079 fucking save lives? 4518 03:51:04.040 --> 03:51:06.559 Look, you have all the basis union to move in 4519 03:51:06.639 --> 03:51:10.079 on these fucks. They came to your country and they 4520 03:51:10.159 --> 03:51:12.520 created chaos. They spilled blood all over one of your 4521 03:51:12.559 --> 03:51:16.120 finest hotels. They showed no regard for local customs, They 4522 03:51:16.159 --> 03:51:17.319 walk around without shirts on. 4523 03:51:17.760 --> 03:51:18.559 What more do you need? 4524 03:51:19.760 --> 03:51:22.959 I mean, they are a disgrace to the public. It 4525 03:51:23.000 --> 03:51:25.360 should be disgrace to you, and I want you to 4526 03:51:25.479 --> 03:51:32.079 know that with my last breath on earth. Finish the sentence, 4527 03:51:33.479 --> 03:51:37.319 and I'm gonna tell you something. If it takes me 4528 03:51:37.479 --> 03:51:42.440 until I breathe my last breath, it is I'm going 4529 03:51:42.520 --> 03:51:46.360 to destroy every single one of these motherfuckers. And then 4530 03:51:46.399 --> 03:51:49.840 I'm going to destroy you because you've been no help whatsoever. 4531 03:51:50.959 --> 03:51:55.600 Fuck you, and fuck the United Kingdom. Click marsh neck, 4532 03:51:55.639 --> 03:51:56.559 get in here, we gotta talk. 4533 03:52:00.639 --> 03:52:00.840 Ah. 4534 03:52:01.600 --> 03:52:03.959 Are you done with the baby from New York Post? 4535 03:52:04.319 --> 03:52:13.520 He's He's not a sixteen minutes producer? Is that the 4536 03:52:13.639 --> 03:52:14.559 end of the Vader excerpt? 4537 03:52:15.239 --> 03:52:15.479 Umm? 4538 03:52:16.280 --> 03:52:18.680 No, okay, yeah, we still haven't gotten to the part 4539 03:52:18.680 --> 03:52:21.159 if you can believe it, where sid owes him his life. 4540 03:52:21.280 --> 03:52:26.600 Yes, yeah, uh well Sid took some very different both 4541 03:52:26.680 --> 03:52:28.440 mens for the night in the hospital and we're deported 4542 03:52:28.479 --> 03:52:30.079 the next day. Says the UK wanted nothing more to 4543 03:52:30.120 --> 03:52:32.200 do with our fuck up be American bullshit. They canceled 4544 03:52:32.239 --> 03:52:34.520 a bunch of the dates from the tour. Some might 4545 03:52:34.600 --> 03:52:36.520 have thought that we as a whole would have been 4546 03:52:36.600 --> 03:52:39.639 reprimanded for all the drinking, but that wasn't the case. Actually, 4547 03:52:39.680 --> 03:52:41.079 this is one of the few times I was singled 4548 03:52:41.079 --> 03:52:43.399 out by the administration and praise hey, good job, Leon, 4549 03:52:43.680 --> 03:52:46.040 Hey I don't try to say good job, Leon. You 4550 03:52:46.200 --> 03:52:49.719 kept your cool and you saved a man's life. Finally, 4551 03:52:49.840 --> 03:52:53.040 I wasn't the bad guy. No matter who was right 4552 03:52:53.120 --> 03:52:55.920 or wrong, Neither Sid nor On have thanked me. Yet 4553 03:52:56.600 --> 03:52:58.120 you would have thought that at some point On would 4554 03:52:58.120 --> 03:53:00.920 have come up to me and said, hey, man, I 4555 03:53:00.959 --> 03:53:03.360 can't do arn his voice. No, I want to thank 4556 03:53:03.399 --> 03:53:05.840 you for sticking to your thumb. And Sid, if I hadn't, 4557 03:53:05.920 --> 03:53:07.079 Arn would have been in a heck of a lot 4558 03:53:07.120 --> 03:53:09.079 more trouble than he was. He could have been up 4559 03:53:09.120 --> 03:53:11.239 for murder charges had Sid died. 4560 03:53:12.040 --> 03:53:14.399 He's a wrestling podcast. 4561 03:53:31.760 --> 03:53:35.639 He's a lapsed fan wrestling podcast with Jack and Carno 4562 03:53:36.079 --> 03:53:37.719 and JP Sorowe. 4563 03:53:37.920 --> 03:53:38.959 He's walking on waffles. 4564 03:53:38.959 --> 03:53:44.440 All right, Absolutely, that's story. So Sid, what do you say? 4565 03:53:45.680 --> 03:53:49.959 He was once dasked about this by Hannibal, and you 4566 03:53:50.040 --> 03:53:52.280 know this is your chance. You know, Vader says you 4567 03:53:52.360 --> 03:53:55.399 never thanked him for saving your ass, saving your life, 4568 03:53:55.440 --> 03:53:57.399 and saving arm from going to jail and all the rest, 4569 03:53:57.440 --> 03:53:58.879 and this being ten times worse than it was. 4570 03:53:59.559 --> 03:54:02.319 Oh, can I guess that Sid actually put his own 4571 03:54:02.399 --> 03:54:06.879 thumb in his wound? Well something like that, and we. 4572 03:54:07.040 --> 03:54:09.719 Will ask you about to go into that incident more 4573 03:54:09.879 --> 03:54:15.040 in our video interview with you, because we actually interviewed 4574 03:54:15.120 --> 03:54:18.680 Vader not too long ago and he told us about 4575 03:54:18.719 --> 03:54:20.520 a ten minute version of the story. 4576 03:54:20.680 --> 03:54:23.040 So this is the thing is that I'm not going 4577 03:54:23.120 --> 03:54:25.120 to go into it right now. Either nobody knows a 4578 03:54:25.159 --> 03:54:27.959 ten minute version because he didn't fucking take ten minutes. Yeah, 4579 03:54:28.000 --> 03:54:31.719 it took just a couple of minutes. And Vader's little 4580 03:54:31.840 --> 03:54:34.719 fucking fat crowd baby ass was in the in the lobby, 4581 03:54:35.360 --> 03:54:38.440 you know, he wouldn't even where where the scuffle wash. 4582 03:54:38.600 --> 03:54:40.159 And I don't know what the story was, but I've 4583 03:54:40.200 --> 03:54:41.760 heard a few people's of the stories and they're not 4584 03:54:41.840 --> 03:54:44.319 even close the one person I think the stories what 4585 03:54:44.399 --> 03:54:46.760 I've heard from people sayings got a close story to it. 4586 03:54:46.879 --> 03:54:50.799 With the scorpio, I think he was actually looking out 4587 03:54:50.840 --> 03:54:53.680 the door, but you know he wasn't. He was just 4588 03:54:53.799 --> 03:54:56.799 looking at the door if he felt safe or you know, 4589 03:54:56.879 --> 03:54:59.319 thought he should have stepped in and done something. You 4590 03:54:59.399 --> 03:55:03.159 know he did, you know, he was just watching it. Now, 4591 03:55:04.920 --> 03:55:06.840 So that's the only person I know had that close 4592 03:55:06.920 --> 03:55:09.600 to a view of it. And I guarantee if you 4593 03:55:09.639 --> 03:55:12.479 asked him too, it wasn't it didn't take ten minutes down. 4594 03:55:13.079 --> 03:55:16.600 You know, we did lobby about it, and he only 4595 03:55:16.760 --> 03:55:19.159 told us. He didn't go into the details about it. 4596 03:55:19.440 --> 03:55:21.399 He only went into about a two minute version and 4597 03:55:21.600 --> 03:55:24.079 just basically said what you said he saw. 4598 03:55:25.200 --> 03:55:28.079 Yeah, that's what it was. It happened so fast, you know. 4599 03:55:28.440 --> 03:55:31.799 And again we'll tip our hand into order to get 4600 03:55:31.840 --> 03:55:34.040 into it right now, but they really did. It was 4601 03:55:34.120 --> 03:55:37.159 knocking the door. The guy came out attacking me. I 4602 03:55:37.200 --> 03:55:39.959 hated one time he went down, the scissors got in 4603 03:55:40.040 --> 03:55:42.360 my hand, and then that's the rest of the story. 4604 03:55:43.719 --> 03:55:46.680 Great, so not so much thanks for saving my life, 4605 03:55:46.760 --> 03:55:49.120 but more you're a fat, cry baby piece. 4606 03:55:48.920 --> 03:55:51.399 Of shit, Vader. I don't see any problem with that. 4607 03:55:51.840 --> 03:55:55.159 Unbelievable and we got more than he bargained for out 4608 03:55:55.200 --> 03:55:57.079 of that clip. Not only did we get said responding 4609 03:55:57.120 --> 03:56:01.200 to Vader's version of events. Now, apparently two Cold Scorpio 4610 03:56:01.440 --> 03:56:04.120 was never even involved in the fracas as he framed 4611 03:56:04.120 --> 03:56:05.920 at the top of this episode. According to CID, he 4612 03:56:06.040 --> 03:56:08.360 was just watching. He didn't get physically involved and trying 4613 03:56:08.399 --> 03:56:11.479 to stop at or break it up, so he wasn't 4614 03:56:11.520 --> 03:56:14.239 hands on in the matter at all. At least we 4615 03:56:14.280 --> 03:56:18.600 can set Scorpio to the side. Wait a minute, he 4616 03:56:18.680 --> 03:56:21.559 should know a bit more than he let on about 4617 03:56:21.559 --> 03:56:24.399 an incident like this. June twenty fifth, twenty twenty four, 4618 03:56:24.520 --> 03:56:28.920 ex wrestler Too Cold Scorpio stabbed man needed staples stitches 4619 03:56:29.120 --> 03:56:32.760 TMZ dot com. The man who was viciously stabbed in 4620 03:56:32.799 --> 03:56:35.440 an altercation with ex wrestling star Too Cold Scorpio was 4621 03:56:35.520 --> 03:56:38.559 lucky to be alive with TMZ Sports obtaining horrific images 4622 03:56:38.559 --> 03:56:41.799 of the aftermath of the June fifteenth incident. As we 4623 03:56:41.920 --> 03:56:44.879 previously reported, the former ww Tag Team champion told cops 4624 03:56:44.920 --> 03:56:47.159 he was working a security shift at Love's Travel Shop 4625 03:56:47.200 --> 03:56:49.639 in Kansas City, Missouri, when an argument with a patron 4626 03:56:49.719 --> 03:56:52.600 over a cigarette turned physical. Fifty eight year old two 4627 03:56:52.639 --> 03:56:55.760 Gold Scorpio real named Charles Skaggs told authorities used a 4628 03:56:55.920 --> 03:56:58.680 knife out of self defense, claiming the man threatened him 4629 03:56:58.680 --> 03:56:59.440 and tried to grapple. 4630 03:56:59.680 --> 03:57:00.479 Oh my god. 4631 03:57:00.680 --> 03:57:03.559 The man suffered deep cuts to his head, chest, buttocks, 4632 03:57:03.639 --> 03:57:05.520 legs and abs in the fight and was rushed to 4633 03:57:05.520 --> 03:57:16.000 a nearby hospital for treatment. Okay, so got a mirror 4634 03:57:16.000 --> 03:57:19.440 image of the of the episode that he claimed to 4635 03:57:19.520 --> 03:57:24.920 be right in the midst of that's wild. So finally 4636 03:57:25.239 --> 03:57:28.760 on our well, at least in multiple perspectives. Here part 4637 03:57:28.799 --> 03:57:29.280 of the story. 4638 03:57:30.440 --> 03:57:33.159 Let's turn to Colonel Rob Parker, Oh boy. 4639 03:57:33.680 --> 03:57:36.840 As mentioned close allegiance with Sid. Sid gets him his 4640 03:57:36.920 --> 03:57:40.079 job in WCW, gives him his gimmick. And this is 4641 03:57:40.159 --> 03:57:42.040 just a few months after the clip we played where 4642 03:57:42.120 --> 03:57:43.959 Parker and Sid debut, if you want to put it 4643 03:57:44.000 --> 03:57:45.840 that way, at Slamboury nineteen ninety three in the spring. 4644 03:57:45.920 --> 03:57:48.000 Now we're in October. But here's the thing. Colonel Parker 4645 03:57:48.079 --> 03:57:50.920 is not in England with the crew because, as Parker 4646 03:57:51.000 --> 03:57:53.440 told Hannibal in a shoot interview, he doesn't have a 4647 03:57:53.479 --> 03:57:55.920 passport expressly, so no one can force him to go 4648 03:57:56.479 --> 03:57:59.040 on international tours. He just is not going to go. 4649 03:57:59.239 --> 03:58:02.520 That's just not his thing. He does not go on tours. 4650 03:58:03.239 --> 03:58:04.680 Yeah, that's probably that right. 4651 03:58:05.520 --> 03:58:07.120 And when you hear him tell the story, it kind 4652 03:58:07.120 --> 03:58:08.479 of sounds like a story he would have gotten from 4653 03:58:08.479 --> 03:58:11.159 Steve Austin, who, of course he managed in WDCW as well. 4654 03:58:11.920 --> 03:58:13.959 So his credibility can be questioned here not only because 4655 03:58:13.959 --> 03:58:16.319 he wasn't there, but because he kind of claims that 4656 03:58:16.639 --> 03:58:18.959 Steve Austin was also somehow involved in the fight when 4657 03:58:18.959 --> 03:58:20.399 you hear him recount what he heard, he kind of 4658 03:58:20.399 --> 03:58:22.920 puts Steve in the mix with Arn, Invader, with Arn 4659 03:58:23.000 --> 03:58:25.399 and us Sid, which of course is not true, and 4660 03:58:26.840 --> 03:58:28.879 as well hear later in fact, Vader and Austin were 4661 03:58:28.920 --> 03:58:32.559 at the bar during everything until Sid shows up damaged. 4662 03:58:32.719 --> 03:58:35.559 So it's kind of it's a mark against him when 4663 03:58:35.559 --> 03:58:38.120 he starts going through the narrative and actually puts Austin 4664 03:58:38.200 --> 03:58:41.120 in the mix in this whole thing. But he does 4665 03:58:41.200 --> 03:58:46.479 say something that I think really warrants some examination. One 4666 03:58:46.520 --> 03:58:50.600 thing we perhaps didn't consider that that keeps following Sid 4667 03:58:50.719 --> 03:58:53.959 around his wrestling life as an albatross, and may have actually, 4668 03:58:54.319 --> 03:58:56.520 according to someone who knew him extremely well, and Colonel 4669 03:58:56.600 --> 03:59:00.440 Robert Parker contributed to this horrific episode. It makes a 4670 03:59:00.479 --> 03:59:02.200 lot of sense when he says it, but we haven't 4671 03:59:02.239 --> 03:59:02.719 even thought of it. 4672 03:59:02.799 --> 03:59:03.239 On now. 4673 03:59:05.399 --> 03:59:07.440 Try to laugh it off. And it went on and on, 4674 03:59:07.600 --> 03:59:13.680 and Arn threw a drink at him, and uh and uh. 4675 03:59:14.920 --> 03:59:19.520 Altercation ensued there and here come the agents and everybody, 4676 03:59:19.559 --> 03:59:21.959 and they just close the bar. They said, all of 4677 03:59:22.040 --> 03:59:23.920 the guys that'll go back to the room and get 4678 03:59:23.959 --> 03:59:28.200 out of here. And it's into that and so they 4679 03:59:28.280 --> 03:59:30.399 go back to their rooms. And Arn's going in there, 4680 03:59:30.440 --> 03:59:33.559 and he's trimming up his beard and working on his beard. 4681 03:59:33.600 --> 03:59:36.520 And we get a little pair of scissors. And Sid 4682 03:59:36.639 --> 03:59:40.319 goes back to a room and h tears up a chair, 4683 03:59:42.079 --> 03:59:44.200 takes the leg off the chair and goes down to 4684 03:59:44.319 --> 03:59:49.799 him Art's room, and and uh, and Arnes is trimming. 4685 03:59:50.040 --> 03:59:51.719 He hears a knock at the door. He goes to 4686 03:59:51.719 --> 03:59:53.079 the door, doing a little hole. 4687 03:59:53.159 --> 03:59:53.559 It's Sid. 4688 03:59:54.440 --> 03:59:57.799 And Sid says, a little hole. It's Sid. 4689 03:59:58.959 --> 04:00:01.680 I never even thought of out him looking through a 4690 04:00:01.840 --> 04:00:05.840 key hole. Oh, I mean that's just something else. Yes, 4691 04:00:06.360 --> 04:00:08.159 I have to beg your forgiveness. I think I failed 4692 04:00:08.239 --> 04:00:11.600 to set this bite to continue, so I'm to start 4693 04:00:11.680 --> 04:00:14.000 over again here. Oh sure, And it's going to be 4694 04:00:14.040 --> 04:00:15.559 a bit of a tease for what's to come in 4695 04:00:15.680 --> 04:00:18.440 terms of, you know, diagnosing the cause I reference. This 4696 04:00:18.600 --> 04:00:21.079 is more just as I realize him talking. This is 4697 04:00:21.120 --> 04:00:22.959 more just Colonel Parker giving his side of what he 4698 04:00:23.040 --> 04:00:23.600 heard happened. 4699 04:00:24.399 --> 04:00:26.280 Try to laugh it off. And it went on and 4700 04:00:26.399 --> 04:00:32.360 on and through a drink addim and and. 4701 04:00:33.959 --> 04:00:38.520 Altercation ensued there and here come the agents and everybody, 4702 04:00:38.559 --> 04:00:40.120 and they just closed the bar. 4703 04:00:40.280 --> 04:00:42.040 They said, all of the guys, we'll go back to 4704 04:00:42.120 --> 04:00:43.360 the room and get out of here. 4705 04:00:43.360 --> 04:00:44.159 And it's into that. 4706 04:00:44.399 --> 04:00:48.799 And so they go back to their rooms and Arn's 4707 04:00:48.840 --> 04:00:51.280 going in there and he's trimming up his beard and 4708 04:00:51.639 --> 04:00:53.440 working on his beard, and you get a little pair 4709 04:00:53.440 --> 04:00:57.040 of scissors. And Sid goes back to a room and 4710 04:00:58.479 --> 04:01:02.399 cares up a chair, takes the leg off the chair, 4711 04:01:02.680 --> 04:01:07.079 goes down to the arm's room and and uh and 4712 04:01:07.319 --> 04:01:10.239 Arn Arnes is trimming in. Here's a knock at the door. 4713 04:01:10.319 --> 04:01:12.079 He goes to the door, the in a little hole 4714 04:01:12.159 --> 04:01:18.360 that's sit and Sid says, uh L, let's let's, uh, 4715 04:01:19.159 --> 04:01:21.760 you know, let's go to bed on better terms tonight. 4716 04:01:21.920 --> 04:01:24.600 That uh you know that uh we're on the long 4717 04:01:24.719 --> 04:01:28.280 trip here, all of us together, and you know, open 4718 04:01:28.399 --> 04:01:29.479 up the door, shake. 4719 04:01:29.319 --> 04:01:33.920 Hands the chair, a right, So yeah, right he does, and. 4720 04:01:34.040 --> 04:01:37.760 Sid boot and seem what the thing now? I know 4721 04:01:37.920 --> 04:01:39.440 you probably talk to Sid. I don't know if you 4722 04:01:39.520 --> 04:01:41.680 got the same story or. 4723 04:01:41.719 --> 04:01:43.000 Anybody like it. I don't know. 4724 04:01:43.600 --> 04:01:48.520 This is the story that I got from my buddies, 4725 04:01:48.799 --> 04:01:52.959 my guys that were there, and also my guy that 4726 04:01:53.079 --> 04:01:56.319 I took over there, Steve Austin, in which he and. 4727 04:01:56.360 --> 04:01:58.239 I went up and down the road all over w 4728 04:01:58.399 --> 04:02:01.680 C wfore well over year before he left to go 4729 04:02:01.799 --> 04:02:02.360 to New York. 4730 04:02:02.520 --> 04:02:03.719 The stone call, so I had. 4731 04:02:03.760 --> 04:02:07.280 Heard this stuff, and that then Arn take the bump 4732 04:02:07.360 --> 04:02:09.600 back in the floor, and Sid jumping on the top 4733 04:02:09.639 --> 04:02:12.760 of you and mean to take the leg from the 4734 04:02:12.840 --> 04:02:15.680 chair and peet his brains out, and Iron stuck the 4735 04:02:15.719 --> 04:02:21.079 scissors in him, and then then Sid selling the scissors, 4736 04:02:21.159 --> 04:02:24.840 and the fight starts again, and the scissors go over 4737 04:02:24.959 --> 04:02:26.600 there and they fight over the. 4738 04:02:26.639 --> 04:02:29.520 Scissors, and Sid gets the scissors, and Iron takes off 4739 04:02:30.600 --> 04:02:34.040 for the elevator down the hall. He makes it to 4740 04:02:34.159 --> 04:02:38.680 the elevator, but it's one of them deals, give me done, but. 4741 04:02:39.479 --> 04:02:42.760 It don't come quick enough, and Sid catches him there 4742 04:02:42.799 --> 04:02:45.200 at the elevator and stabs. 4743 04:02:44.879 --> 04:02:52.120 Him twenty eight thirty times, with meaning, I think from 4744 04:02:52.159 --> 04:02:53.399 what I hear, to kill him. 4745 04:02:55.200 --> 04:02:56.120 Very bad. 4746 04:02:57.159 --> 04:03:01.159 From what I hear, meaning to kill him, yes, Worth noting, 4747 04:03:01.200 --> 04:03:04.440 and that Sid rejoinder to Vader, claiming to save his life. 4748 04:03:04.479 --> 04:03:07.360 He also stipulated that he doesn't think that the wound 4749 04:03:07.479 --> 04:03:09.159 was severe enough that there was any chance that he 4750 04:03:09.239 --> 04:03:11.200 was going to bleed out and die. So the way 4751 04:03:11.319 --> 04:03:13.280 Sid's the only Vader is the only one I've heard 4752 04:03:13.319 --> 04:03:15.680 described Sid as stumbling around like a zombie and barely 4753 04:03:15.760 --> 04:03:18.680 being able to talk or move at that point. So 4754 04:03:18.959 --> 04:03:20.879 Sid kind of throws cold water on that and says, 4755 04:03:20.920 --> 04:03:23.600 you know, the wound was he wasn't bleeding from any organs. 4756 04:03:23.639 --> 04:03:26.200 He wouldn't have bled to death. And he knows this 4757 04:03:26.319 --> 04:03:28.799 because they did quick exploratory surgery when they got him 4758 04:03:28.799 --> 04:03:31.520 to the hospital and were able to quickly handle it. Yeah, 4759 04:03:31.559 --> 04:03:35.360 but he would have known it then, Yeah, Yeah, it's 4760 04:03:35.399 --> 04:03:37.159 it's just I don't know, he just does not. Sid 4761 04:03:37.200 --> 04:03:39.200 does not want to give Vader credit for saving his life. 4762 04:03:39.239 --> 04:03:41.520 He just doesn't want to. I don't know why, but 4763 04:03:41.600 --> 04:03:45.000 he doesn't. So I feel like we've heard from everybody, 4764 04:03:45.079 --> 04:03:46.000 and do we have clarity? 4765 04:03:46.079 --> 04:03:46.479 Of course not. 4766 04:03:46.600 --> 04:03:50.559 This is professional wrestling, No listen, Everyone's going to tell 4767 04:03:50.639 --> 04:03:53.159 stories that serve themselves and unless you're like in a 4768 04:03:53.239 --> 04:03:55.879 court of law, you're not gonna, you know, tell the truth. 4769 04:03:57.360 --> 04:04:01.639 I mean, even then, shall we con the record, boss, Yes, 4770 04:04:02.559 --> 04:04:03.879 shall we take a look at the fact that as 4771 04:04:03.920 --> 04:04:06.239 part of our Sid tribute here at TLF, we did 4772 04:04:06.319 --> 04:04:10.680 the legwork and pulled some court documents from Mecklenburg County 4773 04:04:11.559 --> 04:04:14.719 in North Carolina, in which in nineteen ninety four, Martin 4774 04:04:14.799 --> 04:04:16.799 Lundy aka Arn Anderson. 4775 04:04:16.520 --> 04:04:18.520 Sid sued, I'm in North Carolina. 4776 04:04:18.799 --> 04:04:23.520 That's where Arn lived, Oh, I see sued Sid. Sid 4777 04:04:23.639 --> 04:04:25.600 made vague reference to it, talking about the twenty thousand 4778 04:04:25.639 --> 04:04:27.879 dollars retainer to the lawyer that's Arn never got a 4779 04:04:27.959 --> 04:04:31.120 piece of. And it's because this lawsuit is fire filed. 4780 04:04:31.120 --> 04:04:32.799 As far as I can tell that, Sid always takes 4781 04:04:32.840 --> 04:04:35.840 great pains to point out that he could have pressed 4782 04:04:35.920 --> 04:04:38.040 charges against Arn in England and did not, of course, 4783 04:04:38.360 --> 04:04:40.600 and this is the thanks he gets if he stabbed. 4784 04:04:41.000 --> 04:04:43.920 The better man. Let's not forget that. Okay, he is 4785 04:04:44.040 --> 04:04:44.600 the better man. 4786 04:04:45.120 --> 04:04:47.719 I stab the motherfucker, I don't press charges and then 4787 04:04:47.799 --> 04:04:50.520 he sues me. That's the thanks I get for stabbing 4788 04:04:50.680 --> 04:04:55.760 him and not charging him. With me stabbing him bought 4789 04:04:55.760 --> 04:04:56.239 a business. 4790 04:04:57.760 --> 04:04:58.280 So here it is. 4791 04:04:58.959 --> 04:05:01.639 And if we're going to pledge allegiance to one version 4792 04:05:01.680 --> 04:05:04.079 of this story, I think it's probably safe to pledge 4793 04:05:04.079 --> 04:05:06.000 allegiance to the one that Arne and his lawyer were 4794 04:05:06.040 --> 04:05:09.440 willing to set down in official court documents. That's kind 4795 04:05:09.440 --> 04:05:11.639 of what we do here at TLF, as we lay 4796 04:05:11.719 --> 04:05:16.520 out all the contradictory stories from the the menageray of Carnes, 4797 04:05:16.600 --> 04:05:18.879 and then we go a step further. And now we 4798 04:05:18.959 --> 04:05:20.639 go a step further when they have to step just 4799 04:05:20.719 --> 04:05:22.959 a little bit closer into that zone of truth known 4800 04:05:23.000 --> 04:05:26.639 as the American court system, such as it is. So 4801 04:05:26.719 --> 04:05:29.440 in nineteen ninety four, in the summer after this happens 4802 04:05:29.520 --> 04:05:32.920 and Sid is gone from wcw arn Anderson files the 4803 04:05:32.959 --> 04:05:38.399 following lawsuit. Complaint Plaintiff complaining of the defendant alleges and 4804 04:05:38.479 --> 04:05:42.200 says as follows. One, Plaintiff is an individual residing in 4805 04:05:42.239 --> 04:05:46.440 Mecklenburg County, North Carolina. Two upon information and belief, defendant 4806 04:05:46.520 --> 04:05:48.639 is an individual who resides in Mary in Arkansas, that 4807 04:05:48.719 --> 04:05:51.200 being said, and who transacts business throughout the United States, 4808 04:05:51.239 --> 04:05:54.120 including substantial activity within North Carolina. This is to establish 4809 04:05:54.440 --> 04:05:57.120 jurisdiction for this court. This court has jurisdiction in this 4810 04:05:57.239 --> 04:06:01.559 matter pursuant too a law, and venue is also properly 4811 04:06:01.600 --> 04:06:05.440 placed in this court pursuant to a law factual allegations. 4812 04:06:06.440 --> 04:06:06.799 There we go. 4813 04:06:07.159 --> 04:06:10.040 Plaintiff and defendant both make their living as professional wrestlers. 4814 04:06:10.719 --> 04:06:13.000 Upon information and belief, during the time period in question, 4815 04:06:13.120 --> 04:06:16.040 both the parties were under contract to World Championship Wrestling 4816 04:06:16.079 --> 04:06:21.040 Incorporated at Georgia Corporation hereinafter WCW. Well arne as we 4817 04:06:21.079 --> 04:06:23.319 were about to hear from SID. According to him, he 4818 04:06:23.440 --> 04:06:27.200 was decidedly not under contract at this point in time, 4819 04:06:27.239 --> 04:06:29.479 and that was in oversight more than it was anything else. 4820 04:06:29.559 --> 04:06:33.440 A hashtag WCW. In October of nineteen ninety three, Arn continues, 4821 04:06:33.799 --> 04:06:36.680 WCW arranged tour of professional wrestling matches for the United 4822 04:06:36.799 --> 04:06:39.040 Kingdom and Germany. Both plaintiff and defendant were to wrestle 4823 04:06:39.120 --> 04:06:42.000 on this tour. On October twenty seventh, nineteen ninety three, 4824 04:06:42.120 --> 04:06:45.120 both plaintiff and defendant appeared on wrestling card in Blackburn, England, 4825 04:06:45.200 --> 04:06:48.639 United Kingdom. After the conclusion of the matches, plaintiff and defendant, 4826 04:06:48.680 --> 04:06:51.879 along with numerous other wrestlers and WCW officials, returned to 4827 04:06:51.920 --> 04:06:54.680 the hotel at which all members of the tour were staying. 4828 04:06:55.440 --> 04:06:58.600 During a conversation at the hotel with several individuals, including 4829 04:06:58.639 --> 04:07:02.600 the plaintiff, defendant became verbally abusive towards the plaintiff and 4830 04:07:02.639 --> 04:07:06.239 physically threatened the plaintiff. Okay, so that's it. He was 4831 04:07:06.319 --> 04:07:10.559 threatened by SID during the conversation, not just up at 4832 04:07:10.559 --> 04:07:13.280 the hotel after an argument and after Arn threw a bottle. 4833 04:07:13.799 --> 04:07:16.040 Arne's claiming here, and this is important because Arn is 4834 04:07:16.120 --> 04:07:18.280 never gone on the record recounting this incident. As far 4835 04:07:18.280 --> 04:07:21.120 as I can tell, I see nothing of him giving 4836 04:07:21.159 --> 04:07:25.440 his blow by blow. Besides, yes, that's interesting, I wonder 4837 04:07:25.799 --> 04:07:28.360 is that. I'm sure what we're gonna get to this. 4838 04:07:28.440 --> 04:07:31.680 This lawsuit was settled. It's clear it's settled, and he 4839 04:07:31.799 --> 04:07:35.440 probably you know, agreed not to speak negatively about Sid 4840 04:07:35.520 --> 04:07:37.600 in exchange for whatever payout he got. Now Sid took 4841 04:07:37.639 --> 04:07:39.479 pains to say that Arne didn't see any of that money. 4842 04:07:40.440 --> 04:07:42.079 So maybe it was the kind of settlement where both 4843 04:07:42.120 --> 04:07:45.760 sides agreed to sort of tone to tone it down 4844 04:07:45.760 --> 04:07:47.920 a bit, but not you know, exchange funds. 4845 04:07:47.959 --> 04:07:48.360 I don't know. 4846 04:07:48.760 --> 04:07:51.879 Settlements in these types of matters are always confidential, so 4847 04:07:52.000 --> 04:07:53.879 you never really know what kind of money changed hands. 4848 04:07:53.959 --> 04:07:56.799 But I always assumed it's because Arn tried to assume 4849 04:07:56.840 --> 04:08:00.879 him didn't quite succeed, or or god a settlement that 4850 04:08:01.000 --> 04:08:04.600 had to keep him kind of hushed on it. During 4851 04:08:04.639 --> 04:08:07.239 a conversation of the hotel, several individuals defendant became verbally 4852 04:08:07.239 --> 04:08:11.159 abusive towards the plaintiff and physically threatened plaintiff. Ww's director 4853 04:08:11.200 --> 04:08:14.200 of security, Doug Dillinger, interceded in the argument between the 4854 04:08:14.200 --> 04:08:16.479 plaintiff and defendant and escorted the plaintiff back to his 4855 04:08:16.600 --> 04:08:19.440 hotel room. I think the fact that Arn name drops 4856 04:08:19.479 --> 04:08:21.479 Doug Dillinger, and here's probably a hint that if push 4857 04:08:21.559 --> 04:08:23.920 came to shove, he'd be willing to present Doug Dillager 4858 04:08:23.959 --> 04:08:26.360 as a witness who would give a ye, no doubt, 4859 04:08:26.399 --> 04:08:29.360 being a mid Atlantic guy, a favorable version of events 4860 04:08:29.479 --> 04:08:33.479 toward Arn Anderson. Okay, So Dillinger, according to Arn Anderson, 4861 04:08:33.520 --> 04:08:36.200 gets in the middle of the argument and es court's 4862 04:08:37.559 --> 04:08:40.840 Arn back to his hotel room. As plaintiff and mister 4863 04:08:40.879 --> 04:08:44.399 Dillinger were talking too Plaintiff's were walking rather to plaintiff's room. 4864 04:08:44.719 --> 04:08:48.719 Defendant continued to verbally insult the plaintiff and make threats 4865 04:08:48.760 --> 04:08:51.239 of physical violence. Nothing in here about breaking off a 4866 04:08:51.280 --> 04:08:54.040 beer bottle or anything like that. According to this version, 4867 04:08:54.159 --> 04:08:56.840 Sid is threatening him in the lobby and threatening him 4868 04:08:56.840 --> 04:08:59.799 on the way to his room. As plaintiff and mister 4869 04:08:59.840 --> 04:09:02.799 dill were walking the plaintiff's room, defendant continued to verbally 4870 04:09:02.840 --> 04:09:05.079 insult the plaintiff and make threats of physical violence. As 4871 04:09:05.120 --> 04:09:08.639 I read, shortly after returning to his room, plaintiff heard 4872 04:09:08.639 --> 04:09:11.120 defendant beating into or kicking on the door to his 4873 04:09:11.239 --> 04:09:11.840 hotel room. 4874 04:09:11.959 --> 04:09:13.559 None of this, none of this. 4875 04:09:13.639 --> 04:09:15.559 He had a beer bottle and so oh yeah, really 4876 04:09:15.760 --> 04:09:18.399 or none of this like to Parker's version, none of this. 4877 04:09:18.479 --> 04:09:20.159 Ah this, this has gone out of control. I'm gonna 4878 04:09:20.159 --> 04:09:21.879 go to the room and talk to him so that 4879 04:09:21.959 --> 04:09:25.120 we can go to bed peaceful. No, he goes right 4880 04:09:25.200 --> 04:09:26.760 to the room and starts banging on it. According to 4881 04:09:26.799 --> 04:09:29.520 this version, when the plaintiff went to the doctor to 4882 04:09:30.239 --> 04:09:32.680 the door rather to confront the defendant, he saw no 4883 04:09:32.799 --> 04:09:37.600 one in the hallway. SID bangs on the door and 4884 04:09:37.719 --> 04:09:42.200 then disappears as the plaintiff stepped out into the hallway, 4885 04:09:42.239 --> 04:09:46.600 that being arn Anderson SID, who had apparently been hiding 4886 04:09:46.799 --> 04:09:52.000 behind the door as it opened. No stepped out and 4887 04:09:52.280 --> 04:09:54.600 violently struck plaintiff in the head with the leg of 4888 04:09:54.639 --> 04:10:00.440 a table or chair. Whoa SID hides behind them door 4889 04:10:01.680 --> 04:10:02.399 and wax him. 4890 04:10:02.479 --> 04:10:02.840 None of this. 4891 04:10:03.079 --> 04:10:04.959 Oh, I heard him stumbling in there, and when he 4892 04:10:05.040 --> 04:10:07.959 opened the door, I could tell he was in no 4893 04:10:08.120 --> 04:10:10.360 condition to fight and I thought, what the fuck am 4894 04:10:10.399 --> 04:10:10.760 I doing? 4895 04:10:10.879 --> 04:10:11.559 This is crazy? 4896 04:10:11.600 --> 04:10:13.120 And then he lunged at me, so I had to 4897 04:10:13.159 --> 04:10:14.879 put him down, and then I wrote, none of that. No, 4898 04:10:15.280 --> 04:10:19.120 he hides, he puts his back to the wall. Yeah, wait, 4899 04:10:19.440 --> 04:10:22.120 this is the funniest thing in the world to me. 4900 04:10:22.520 --> 04:10:24.159 That's picturing Sid doing it. 4901 04:10:25.440 --> 04:10:26.399 Lumbering man, that's. 4902 04:10:26.319 --> 04:10:26.600 What It is. 4903 04:10:26.719 --> 04:10:28.520 Not funny that it happened to arn. I'm not saying that. 4904 04:10:28.559 --> 04:10:31.479 It's just funny that someone that looks like Sid is 4905 04:10:32.000 --> 04:10:34.959 hiding behind a door ready to pop out. 4906 04:10:35.120 --> 04:10:38.959 He's sneak attacking, you know, he's ready to fucking you know, 4907 04:10:39.280 --> 04:10:41.319 just he's He's such a bitch. 4908 04:10:42.200 --> 04:10:46.520 Defendant then continued to viciously, pardon the punt, viciously and 4909 04:10:46.639 --> 04:10:49.840 intentionally assault and batter the defendant with the table leg 4910 04:10:50.319 --> 04:10:53.680 and a pair of scissors. So arn Arne is not 4911 04:10:53.799 --> 04:10:56.200 mentioning that he introduced the scissors to the fight. He's 4912 04:10:56.200 --> 04:10:59.920 simply mentioning that Sid attacked him with them. Defendant all 4913 04:11:00.000 --> 04:11:02.559 also repeatedly punched and kicked plaintiff in the torso and 4914 04:11:02.680 --> 04:11:06.280 head after other individuals arrived, having been alerted by the 4915 04:11:06.360 --> 04:11:11.159 sound of the assault. Defendant then fled the hotel led 4916 04:11:11.200 --> 04:11:11.680 the hotel. 4917 04:11:12.680 --> 04:11:15.479 Nothing, Wow, holy shit, I don't. 4918 04:11:15.280 --> 04:11:17.200 Think he left the premises. He clearly went down to 4919 04:11:17.280 --> 04:11:19.760 wherever Steve Austin and Invader was bleeding. 4920 04:11:20.000 --> 04:11:22.319 But but. 4921 04:11:24.559 --> 04:11:25.200 That's crazy. 4922 04:11:25.879 --> 04:11:30.559 So here is the cause of action from Arn Anderson 4923 04:11:30.559 --> 04:11:34.200 the aforesaid actions by say, sorry. 4924 04:11:35.440 --> 04:11:40.440 So hold on, I'm m hmm. It's hard. It's you know, 4925 04:11:40.559 --> 04:11:44.680 my brain goes defendant being Arn in the fact that 4926 04:11:45.879 --> 04:11:49.200 defending himself. So it's hard to me, so like, but 4927 04:11:49.360 --> 04:11:54.399 you know it Sid attacks Arn. But then but then 4928 04:11:55.000 --> 04:12:03.280 why is why why it never mentions that that Sid 4929 04:12:03.399 --> 04:12:06.799 is stabbed. No, it doesn't. It just mentions him leaving 4930 04:12:06.840 --> 04:12:07.280 the hotel. 4931 04:12:07.399 --> 04:12:10.239 It makes it, Yeah, he makes it sound like Sid 4932 04:12:10.639 --> 04:12:12.319 just cheap shot at him, beat the shit out of him, 4933 04:12:12.319 --> 04:12:15.120 and then took off and stabbed him, and doesn't mention 4934 04:12:15.239 --> 04:12:17.520 that Arn was the one that brought the scissors into 4935 04:12:17.559 --> 04:12:20.680 the equation. So you can picture Sid and as lawyers 4936 04:12:20.920 --> 04:12:23.360 reading this and preparing their defense, and we might just 4937 04:12:23.399 --> 04:12:24.799 I don't know, we might just have a glimpse, it 4938 04:12:24.840 --> 04:12:27.040 said document, you might just need to warm up those 4939 04:12:27.200 --> 04:12:29.040 Sid pipes, poss. Let's just s put it that way 4940 04:12:29.120 --> 04:12:32.120 for the folks. But further, okay, and to your point, 4941 04:12:32.159 --> 04:12:34.760 I'll replace defendant with SID, and I'll replace plaintiff with Arn. 4942 04:12:34.879 --> 04:12:38.879 For clarity, the afforesad actions by the by SID constitute 4943 04:12:38.920 --> 04:12:42.040 an intentional assault and battery upon Arn. As a direct 4944 04:12:42.079 --> 04:12:44.639 and proximate result of the assault and battery by SID, 4945 04:12:45.200 --> 04:12:49.159 Arn has sustained serious physical injuries, including but not limited to, 4946 04:12:49.239 --> 04:12:52.600 lacerations of the face and body, multiple contusions, and acute 4947 04:12:52.639 --> 04:12:53.440 pain and suffering. 4948 04:12:54.319 --> 04:12:56.399 So none of me were any of these were any 4949 04:12:56.399 --> 04:13:01.719 of these injuries? Did any of them come into play 4950 04:13:02.440 --> 04:13:04.159 regarding Arne's retirement. 4951 04:13:04.680 --> 04:13:06.879 Now, Arn's retirement was all about nerve damage to his 4952 04:13:06.959 --> 04:13:09.879 spine that atrophied his arm. Same thing happened to Paul 4953 04:13:09.959 --> 04:13:14.000 Orndorf okay yep as a neck injury as a further 4954 04:13:14.120 --> 04:13:17.440 direct and proximate result of Sid's intentional assault and battery 4955 04:13:17.520 --> 04:13:20.719 upon Arn and the injuries resulting therefrom Arn. He does 4956 04:13:20.799 --> 04:13:23.159 say this, though boss Arne has been unable to pursue 4957 04:13:23.239 --> 04:13:26.000 his career as a professional wrestler. In addition to lost wages, 4958 04:13:26.399 --> 04:13:28.559 Arne's career has been placed in jeopardy as he has 4959 04:13:28.600 --> 04:13:32.719 been removed from WCW's television another broadcast meet and during 4960 04:13:32.760 --> 04:13:36.399 his recovery, so he wants you know, he's basically intimating 4961 04:13:36.440 --> 04:13:38.079 that you owe me the money I would have made. 4962 04:13:40.680 --> 04:13:43.600 Such removal from television will directly and negatively impact on 4963 04:13:43.760 --> 04:13:47.120 Arne's popularity with professional wrestling fans and substantially damage his 4964 04:13:47.200 --> 04:13:52.559 futurability to earn income. Second claim for relief. The allegations 4965 04:13:52.600 --> 04:13:55.120 contained in paragraph one to eighteen are incorporated by reference 4966 04:13:55.159 --> 04:13:58.239 as if set forth here in verbatim, the actions by SID, 4967 04:13:58.319 --> 04:14:02.239 as if foresaid, were intentional, wanton, wilful, and malicious, and 4968 04:14:02.280 --> 04:14:05.319 we're done with the intent to seriously injure or perhaps 4969 04:14:05.559 --> 04:14:10.719 even kill the plaintiff. Given the outrageousness of the acts 4970 04:14:10.799 --> 04:14:15.479 of SID, Arn is entitled to punitive damages. Wherefore Arn, 4971 04:14:15.600 --> 04:14:19.159 respectively prey. This Court has follows one that plaintiff have 4972 04:14:19.319 --> 04:14:22.479 judgment against SID in an amount in excess of ten 4973 04:14:22.639 --> 04:14:26.079 thousand dollars for the actual damages suffered by Arn. That 4974 04:14:26.399 --> 04:14:29.200 ARN have judgment against SID in an amount in excess 4975 04:14:29.239 --> 04:14:32.319 of ten thousand for punitive damages, that all costs of 4976 04:14:32.399 --> 04:14:34.760 this action be born, but the defendant for a jury 4977 04:14:34.879 --> 04:14:37.719 trial on issue so triable, and for such other and 4978 04:14:37.799 --> 04:14:40.040 further relief as the court may deem just and proper. 4979 04:14:40.200 --> 04:14:44.159 This the fifth day of January nineteen ninety four, Attorney 4980 04:14:44.319 --> 04:14:47.040 Robert Trobitch, who you might know is being involved in 4981 04:14:47.079 --> 04:14:49.319 the Rick Flair World title Jim Herd dispute. 4982 04:14:49.639 --> 04:14:52.680 So there you go. Arn has laid his facts on 4983 04:14:52.760 --> 04:14:55.639 the table. Is sculling him for ten grand, for twenty grand, 4984 04:14:55.719 --> 04:14:56.079 for more. 4985 04:14:56.200 --> 04:14:58.600 But you have to say, like, the part of the 4986 04:14:58.680 --> 04:15:01.360 law that allows me to get more than ten grand 4987 04:15:01.399 --> 04:15:04.159 from you as opposed to less is different, a different 4988 04:15:05.120 --> 04:15:07.680 burden of proof. So he's not saying exactly how much 4989 04:15:07.719 --> 04:15:10.319 he wants, but he's saying it's definitely more than ten grand. 4990 04:15:11.000 --> 04:15:14.479 Okay, he's a lapsed fan wrestling podcast. 4991 04:15:31.840 --> 04:15:35.719 He's an lapsed fan wrestling podcast with Jack and Carno 4992 04:15:36.159 --> 04:15:37.200 and JP Sorrow. 4993 04:15:38.000 --> 04:15:40.319 So that is on and that is what he puts 4994 04:15:40.440 --> 04:15:43.840 to paper. Now, does defendant aka SID you do you 4995 04:15:43.879 --> 04:15:44.559 have a response? 4996 04:15:44.600 --> 04:15:48.040 Boss? I believe he does. Do we have a counter 4997 04:15:48.079 --> 04:15:52.280 or claim? Always let's hear from Sid. 4998 04:15:52.399 --> 04:15:55.719 As he dictates in his lawyer's office, what does he 4999 04:15:55.799 --> 04:15:57.040 wants the document to read? 5000 04:16:01.879 --> 04:16:06.319 The defendant moves the court pursuant to Rule twelve B, 5001 04:16:06.680 --> 04:16:10.799 one of the rules of civil procedure to dismiss this 5002 04:16:11.000 --> 04:16:15.399 action for lack of jurisdiction of the subject matter, in 5003 04:16:15.600 --> 04:16:20.959 that the complaint seeks damages for personal injuries not within 5004 04:16:21.319 --> 04:16:24.040 the jurisdiction of this court exactly, and that's the real 5005 04:16:24.120 --> 04:16:29.440 problem here, hm. The defendant moves the Court, pursuant to 5006 04:16:29.639 --> 04:16:34.079 Rule twelve B two of the Rules of Civil Procedure, 5007 04:16:34.479 --> 04:16:40.600 to cush the retard of service of submens to. 5008 04:16:40.680 --> 04:16:45.680 The defendant, and to dismiss this action for lack of 5009 04:16:45.920 --> 04:16:51.479 jurisdiction over the person of this defendant, in that the 5010 04:16:51.680 --> 04:16:55.120 defendant is not a resident of North Carolina. 5011 04:16:55.159 --> 04:16:59.840 It's not it's not doing business in the state of 5012 04:17:00.120 --> 04:17:00.959 North Carolina. 5013 04:17:01.040 --> 04:17:03.120 Yeah, I who saw those house show returns for the 5014 04:17:03.200 --> 04:17:03.920 Charlotte's right. 5015 04:17:04.520 --> 04:17:11.040 Damn right it is, and it's not otherwise subject to 5016 04:17:11.319 --> 04:17:17.639 service of process issued by this court. The defendant moves 5017 04:17:18.079 --> 04:17:21.760 the Court, pursuing to Rule twelve B six of the 5018 04:17:21.879 --> 04:17:25.719 Rules of Civil Procedure, to dismiss this action for. 5019 04:17:26.000 --> 04:17:32.120 Failure of the complaint to state acclaim upon which relief 5020 04:17:32.239 --> 04:17:33.600 can be granted. 5021 04:17:35.159 --> 04:17:41.079 Any allege assault and battery upon the plaintiff. The right 5022 04:17:41.239 --> 04:17:46.319 of action thereon against this defendant was barred by the 5023 04:17:46.399 --> 04:17:49.959 statute of limitations prior to the conmencement of this action. 5024 04:17:50.920 --> 04:17:54.520 What's the sexual limitations. I don't know what he's talking about, 5025 04:17:55.079 --> 04:17:58.319 Like what a day? Is it a month? Like the 5026 04:17:58.440 --> 04:18:00.840 statue limitations for this, I don't know. 5027 04:18:00.879 --> 04:18:03.440 I guess for maybe assault, it probably is pretty short, 5028 04:18:03.600 --> 04:18:05.399 like you know, you got assaulted, You're gonna do something 5029 04:18:05.399 --> 04:18:07.559 about it or not. It's probably I mean, but this 5030 04:18:07.719 --> 04:18:10.040 was a month later. Now it happened to October. This 5031 04:18:10.120 --> 04:18:11.079 was filed in October. 5032 04:18:11.760 --> 04:18:13.360 Well, I mean, it takes him a while to build 5033 04:18:13.399 --> 04:18:16.000 a case that doesn't seem right. Well, it's not. It's 5034 04:18:16.000 --> 04:18:16.319 a year. 5035 04:18:16.600 --> 04:18:18.559 Yeah, it's not a case, it's a lawsuit. But so 5036 04:18:18.680 --> 04:18:20.520 it's like, it's all, yeah, you. 5037 04:18:20.559 --> 04:18:22.239 Know what happened to you? Just put it down on paper. 5038 04:18:25.639 --> 04:18:30.600 Fifth defense and answer one. The allegations containing paragraph one 5039 04:18:30.680 --> 04:18:35.399 of the plaintiff's complaint are admitted upon information and belief two. 5040 04:18:35.959 --> 04:18:39.600 With respect to the allegations containing paragraph two of the 5041 04:18:39.719 --> 04:18:43.840 Plainton's Plaintiff's complaint, it is admitted that's a defendant is 5042 04:18:43.879 --> 04:18:47.319 a resident of Marion, Arkansas. Oh, he's willing to concede that. 5043 04:18:47.520 --> 04:18:51.399 That's big. I will admit that I live where I 5044 04:18:51.479 --> 04:19:02.000 say I live right, read into that one, except I 5045 04:19:02.159 --> 04:19:08.000 admit olive in Marian, Arkansas. Except as expressly admitted here in, 5046 04:19:08.440 --> 04:19:12.120 the allegations contained in paragraph two of the Plaintiff's complaint 5047 04:19:12.159 --> 04:19:17.959 are denied. The allegations containing paragraph three of the plaintiffs 5048 04:19:18.040 --> 04:19:25.479 Plaintiff's plaint are denied. The allegations containing paragraph four of 5049 04:19:25.559 --> 04:19:27.200 the plaintiff's complaint are denied. 5050 04:19:28.719 --> 04:19:34.239 With respect to the allegations contained in paragraph five of 5051 04:19:34.399 --> 04:19:37.239 the Plaintiff's complaint, it. 5052 04:19:37.399 --> 04:19:42.040 Is admitted upon information and belief not the plaintiff is 5053 04:19:42.680 --> 04:19:44.840 a professional wrestler. There's a T shirt. 5054 04:19:44.920 --> 04:19:47.000 The plaintiff is a professional wrestler. 5055 04:19:51.239 --> 04:19:54.440 I telling you the whole thing, the whole you know, 5056 04:19:54.920 --> 04:19:58.239 black a black T shirt, white lettering. With respect of 5057 04:19:58.280 --> 04:20:02.719 the allegations contained of the Plaintiff's complaint, it is admitted 5058 04:20:02.799 --> 04:20:05.200 upon information and belief that the planineiff is a professional 5059 04:20:05.239 --> 04:20:08.639 wrest That's pretty good. It's pretty great. Oh my god, 5060 04:20:09.079 --> 04:20:11.799 upon information and belief. During the time period in question, 5061 04:20:12.200 --> 04:20:18.159 the plaintiff was under contract to World Championship Wrestling, Incorporated, 5062 04:20:18.719 --> 04:20:24.360 a Georgia corporation. Except as expressly admitted here in the 5063 04:20:24.479 --> 04:20:28.719 allegations contained a paragraph five of the plaintiff's complaint are denied. 5064 04:20:29.280 --> 04:20:33.959 So he denies right there that he SID the defendant 5065 04:20:34.440 --> 04:20:37.520 was under WCW contract, as ARN represented, But he does 5066 04:20:37.639 --> 04:20:41.120 say he does grant that ARN was under WCW contract. 5067 04:20:42.239 --> 04:20:43.200 He's fucking crazy. 5068 04:20:45.280 --> 04:20:48.280 The allegations contained in paragraph six of the plaintiff's complaint 5069 04:20:48.319 --> 04:20:53.639 are admitted upon information and belief. The allegations containing paragraph 5070 04:20:53.760 --> 04:20:57.399 seven of the Plaineiff's complaint are admitted upon information and belief. 5071 04:20:58.399 --> 04:21:02.440 The allegations contain paragraph eight of the Plaintiff's complaint are 5072 04:21:02.479 --> 04:21:04.000 admitted upon information. 5073 04:21:03.639 --> 04:21:08.520 And don't stop there, SID, The allegations. 5074 04:21:08.159 --> 04:21:13.520 Contained in paragraph nine of the plaintiff's complaint are denied. 5075 04:21:14.280 --> 04:21:17.360 What about with respect to the allegations contained in paragraph ten. 5076 04:21:18.239 --> 04:21:22.239 With respect to the allegations containing paragraph ten of the 5077 04:21:22.520 --> 04:21:27.559 of the Plaintiff's complaint, it is admitted upon information and 5078 04:21:27.719 --> 04:21:32.280 belief that others attempted to intervene in an argument between 5079 04:21:32.319 --> 04:21:37.760 the plaintiff and defendant, except as expressly admitted herein, The 5080 04:21:37.879 --> 04:21:42.680 allegations containing paragraph ten of the Plaintiff's complaint are denied. 5081 04:21:45.040 --> 04:21:48.719 The allegations contained in paragraph eleven of the Plaintiff's complaint 5082 04:21:48.760 --> 04:21:55.559 are denied. The defendant alleges that he is without knowledge 5083 04:21:55.879 --> 04:22:01.440 or information sufficient to form a belief the truth of 5084 04:22:01.559 --> 04:22:06.600 the allegations containing paragraph twelve of the Plaintiff's complaint, and 5085 04:22:06.760 --> 04:22:14.319 the same are therefore denied. The allegations containing paragraph thirteen 5086 04:22:14.360 --> 04:22:15.840 of the plaintiff's complaint are denied. 5087 04:22:15.879 --> 04:22:21.239 How about fourteen the allegations containing paragraph fourteen of the 5088 04:22:21.319 --> 04:22:23.360 plaintiff's complaint are denied. 5089 04:22:23.719 --> 04:22:29.440 Fifteen said the allegations complained and paragraph fifteen of the 5090 04:22:29.559 --> 04:22:32.040 planet's complaint or did not start there. 5091 04:22:41.360 --> 04:22:44.799 The allegations contained in paragraph sixteen of the plaintiff's complaint 5092 04:22:44.840 --> 04:22:50.520 are denied. Going the allegations contain in paragraph seventeen of 5093 04:22:50.639 --> 04:22:56.760 the plaintiffs's complaint are denied. There the allegations contained in 5094 04:22:56.879 --> 04:23:03.959 paragraph eighteen of the plaintiff's complaint are denied. The defendant's 5095 04:23:04.040 --> 04:23:08.399 responses to the allegations containing paragraphs one through eighteen are 5096 04:23:08.479 --> 04:23:13.799 incorporated by reference as if set forth herein for batim. 5097 04:23:15.840 --> 04:23:21.120 The allegations containing the second paragraph seventeen of the plaintiff's 5098 04:23:21.319 --> 04:23:28.760 complaint are denied. The allegations contained in the second paragraph 5099 04:23:29.120 --> 04:23:33.520 of the Plaintiff's complaints are denied second paragraph eighteen. Now, 5100 04:23:33.600 --> 04:23:37.319 how about your alternative counterclaim? What do you say happened 5101 04:23:37.360 --> 04:23:37.680 that night? 5102 04:23:37.760 --> 04:23:41.520 Said? Take us through it. In the event the court 5103 04:23:41.639 --> 04:23:45.680 determines that it has jurisdiction over the subject matter and 5104 04:23:45.840 --> 04:23:49.680 jurisdiction over the person of the defendant, that the. 5105 04:23:49.879 --> 04:23:55.360 Statute of limitations does not bo this action, then that 5106 04:23:55.520 --> 04:24:01.680 the complete otherwise states upclaim upon relief can be granted 5107 04:24:02.000 --> 04:24:08.760 than the defendant alleges as follows, that the defendant is. 5108 04:24:10.280 --> 04:24:17.120 A resident of Marion, Arkansas, That the plaintiff is an 5109 04:24:17.239 --> 04:24:24.719 individual residing in Mecklenburg County, North Carolina, That on or 5110 04:24:24.840 --> 04:24:28.840 about October twenty seven, nineteen ninety three, in Blackburn, England, 5111 04:24:29.000 --> 04:24:36.399 United Kingdom, the plaintiff unlawfully the plaintiff intentionally, with malice 5112 04:24:36.799 --> 04:24:42.760 or reckless indifference, assaulted and battered me with a pair 5113 04:24:42.799 --> 04:24:49.879 of scissors and repeatedly stabbed me. That the aforementioned that 5114 04:24:49.959 --> 04:24:53.680 the afforcing actions by the plaintiff constitute an intentional assault 5115 04:24:53.719 --> 04:25:02.040 and battery upon me. As a direct and foreseeable result 5116 04:25:02.159 --> 04:25:06.319 of the assault and battery by the plaintiff, the defendants 5117 04:25:06.360 --> 04:25:14.040 sustained severe, painful and permanent injuries too, and about his body, 5118 04:25:15.040 --> 04:25:21.760 including stab wounds and multiple laser races to his face, stomach, 5119 04:25:22.760 --> 04:25:24.120 and don't stop there. 5120 04:25:24.959 --> 04:25:29.399 He suffered and continues to suffer great pain of body. 5121 04:25:29.159 --> 04:25:33.559 And mind as he received, He received and continues to 5122 04:25:33.719 --> 04:25:41.159 receive hospital and medical care, attention, and treatment. He occurred 5123 04:25:42.000 --> 04:25:47.719 and continues to incur expenses for hospital and medical care, attention, 5124 04:25:48.120 --> 04:25:54.319 and treatment. He has been disabled from performing his usual 5125 04:25:54.399 --> 04:26:00.319 activities and occupational duties, with resulting loss of earnings and 5126 04:26:00.600 --> 04:26:05.040 as a redirect and approximate result of the aforementioned injuries, 5127 04:26:05.079 --> 04:26:11.440 set defendant is informed, believes, and therefore alleges that he 5128 04:26:12.079 --> 04:26:18.799 has been severely sad part of that line injured, that 5129 04:26:19.120 --> 04:26:23.840 damage and an amount in excess of ten thousand dollars 5130 04:26:23.920 --> 04:26:31.200 fucking awsom the plaintiff is informed, believes and therefore alleges 5131 04:26:31.440 --> 04:26:37.399 that the actions by the plaintiff were intentional, wanton, willful, 5132 04:26:38.000 --> 04:26:42.079 and malice and we're done with the intent to seriously 5133 04:26:42.200 --> 04:26:47.040 injure the defendant, and therefore the defendant is entitled to 5134 04:26:47.159 --> 04:26:51.360 an award of punitive damages in an amount in excess 5135 04:26:51.440 --> 04:26:58.520 of ten thousand dollars. Wherefore, Defendant respectfully praise the Court 5136 04:26:58.559 --> 04:27:03.760 as follows that this Court enter in order dismissing the 5137 04:27:03.799 --> 04:27:07.680 plaintiff's complaint as requested in defendant's motions here and above, 5138 04:27:09.079 --> 04:27:14.559 that plaintiff have and recover nothing of this defendant, and 5139 04:27:14.719 --> 04:27:19.840 that his complaint be dismissed with prejudice that subject to 5140 04:27:20.000 --> 04:27:23.280 the relief prayed foreign paragraph one. 5141 04:27:24.959 --> 04:27:29.680 Here right above all they follow a denial of those 5142 04:27:29.840 --> 04:27:36.360 motions that defendant recovered judgment against the plaintiff in. 5143 04:27:36.399 --> 04:27:41.879 An amount in an excess of ten thousand dollars for 5144 04:27:42.079 --> 04:27:47.879 the actual damages suffered by the defendant, that subject to 5145 04:27:47.959 --> 04:27:53.120 the relief prayed foreign paragraph one here and above, and 5146 04:27:53.360 --> 04:27:58.000 only following denial those motions that the defendant have judgment 5147 04:27:58.120 --> 04:28:01.760 against the plaintiff in an out in exists of ten 5148 04:28:02.360 --> 04:28:08.360 thousand dollars for beauti of damages that's subject to the 5149 04:28:08.440 --> 04:28:12.959 relief preyed a four in paragraph one here and above, 5150 04:28:13.159 --> 04:28:16.840 and only following denial of those motions that this defendant 5151 04:28:17.040 --> 04:28:21.920 have a trial budgery on all issues of fact a 5152 04:28:22.079 --> 04:28:28.520 rising in this cause, that the cost of this action 5153 04:28:28.760 --> 04:28:33.600 be taxed against the plaintiff, and for. 5154 04:28:33.799 --> 04:28:38.120 Such honor and further relief as the Court seed re 5155 04:28:38.440 --> 04:28:40.680 deem just improper. 5156 04:28:41.120 --> 04:28:44.799 This the twenty fourth day of March nineteen ninety four, 5157 04:28:48.600 --> 04:28:54.399 Darza A, Miller, Pollard and Murphy. Unbelievable. Unbelievable, SAIDs on 5158 04:28:54.479 --> 04:28:56.040 the record. Holy shit. 5159 04:28:56.280 --> 04:29:00.200 Well, about a month after that there's a filing. 5160 04:29:02.239 --> 04:29:02.879 And then there's more. 5161 04:29:03.360 --> 04:29:05.879 It doesn't really go very far. There's clearly behind the 5162 04:29:05.920 --> 04:29:09.879 scenes negotiations going on between both sides, and despite this 5163 04:29:09.959 --> 04:29:12.000 being filed in January of nineteen ninety four, it isn't 5164 04:29:12.079 --> 04:29:14.719 until April twenty fifth of nineteen ninety seven. 5165 04:29:14.920 --> 04:29:17.520 Okay, what we get the fuck out of here? 5166 04:29:17.680 --> 04:29:19.639 Right around the time he wrestles Undertaker in the main 5167 04:29:19.680 --> 04:29:23.840 event of WrestleMania thirteen, does sid Uty settle with arn Anderson. 5168 04:29:24.680 --> 04:29:28.200 The filing reads stipulation and voluntary dismissal come now the parties, 5169 04:29:28.479 --> 04:29:31.079 through their respective Council of Record, and pursuant to Rule 5170 04:29:31.159 --> 04:29:33.200 forty one A one of the North Carolina Rules of 5171 04:29:33.200 --> 04:29:36.840 Civil Procedure, stipulate that the complaint and counterclaim filed in 5172 04:29:36.879 --> 04:29:40.000 the above captioned action are both dismissed with prejudice, and 5173 04:29:40.040 --> 04:29:42.239 that each party shall bear its own court costs at 5174 04:29:42.280 --> 04:29:46.760 attorney's fees. So it is dismissed voluntarily. So I guess 5175 04:29:46.920 --> 04:29:49.559 not quite a settlement. I think they might have to 5176 04:29:49.719 --> 04:29:51.959 say that specifically. I'm no expert in the civil law. 5177 04:29:52.040 --> 04:29:53.440 That we have spent a lot of time looking at this, 5178 04:29:54.159 --> 04:29:56.000 and I feel like you do kind of vindicate if 5179 04:29:56.000 --> 04:29:57.600 there is a settlement. This just seems like it was 5180 04:29:58.360 --> 04:30:01.000 like both sides said, do we really need just still 5181 04:30:01.040 --> 04:30:02.120 spend lawyers on this thing? 5182 04:30:02.559 --> 04:30:03.840 Yep, we're both over it. 5183 04:30:03.879 --> 04:30:05.840 We're both in different places in our careers, we're both 5184 04:30:05.840 --> 04:30:06.719 in different locker rooms. 5185 04:30:06.760 --> 04:30:09.280 Let's drop it. And it's amazing that they didn't drop 5186 04:30:09.319 --> 04:30:14.959 it until nineteen ninety seven. That's crazy. But you hurt 5187 04:30:15.000 --> 04:30:15.479 really crazy. 5188 04:30:15.600 --> 04:30:20.319 You heard me reference it. For all of his hazy 5189 04:30:20.399 --> 04:30:23.440 and malinformed perspectives on this thing, maybe Colonel Parker saw 5190 04:30:23.559 --> 04:30:26.280 something that none of us thought to think of. Yeah, 5191 04:30:26.440 --> 04:30:27.879 as a contributing cause to all this. 5192 04:30:29.319 --> 04:30:32.879 And I'll just tell you this, straight up truth. Wouldn't 5193 04:30:32.879 --> 04:30:36.760 be any good if it didn't. Sid was doing his steroids. 5194 04:30:37.600 --> 04:30:41.600 Gosh did he look good man? He was, he was 5195 04:30:41.840 --> 04:30:46.000 lit man. And when he went, he knew that he. 5196 04:30:46.120 --> 04:30:48.639 Wasn't going to be able to take his steroids along. 5197 04:30:49.479 --> 04:30:54.280 So I knew that he took an awful lot of stuff. 5198 04:30:55.559 --> 04:30:56.159 Ongoing. 5199 04:30:57.159 --> 04:31:03.200 So the first night that they're there, he is really well, 5200 04:31:03.319 --> 04:31:09.120 he's ready to explode. Yes, and uh is this is 5201 04:31:09.200 --> 04:31:12.280 what I hear, you know to hearsay, But I'm sure 5202 04:31:12.399 --> 04:31:15.239 I got the story because I was this man and 5203 04:31:15.440 --> 04:31:18.959 I had been there with him. Would not have happened 5204 04:31:19.319 --> 04:31:24.040 because I knew Sid, and I knew the possibilities and 5205 04:31:24.159 --> 04:31:25.319 I could get ahead of the. 5206 04:31:25.360 --> 04:31:28.559 Game and make sure that those things didn't happen. 5207 04:31:28.680 --> 04:31:30.479 And I think he would back me up on that 5208 04:31:30.639 --> 04:31:34.399 if he was here today then, But I wasn't there 5209 04:31:34.520 --> 04:31:35.040 with him. 5210 04:31:35.120 --> 04:31:38.600 And he was on his own, on his own without 5211 04:31:38.639 --> 04:31:39.280 his can Wow. 5212 04:31:40.120 --> 04:31:42.799 Wow, what's more dangerous than a guy who roid's hard 5213 04:31:43.200 --> 04:31:45.879 someone who's been deprived of his roids for ten days 5214 04:31:45.959 --> 04:31:49.559 in England? You can't bring him over the border. Maybe 5215 04:31:49.600 --> 04:31:52.159 it is just that simple. And again, for all of 5216 04:31:52.280 --> 04:31:56.000 the for all of the palace intrigue in Sid's career 5217 04:31:56.079 --> 04:31:59.120 in both big companies, somehow it always seems to come 5218 04:31:59.200 --> 04:32:01.040 down to whether or not he can get access to 5219 04:32:01.079 --> 04:32:02.280 the steroids to be Sid. 5220 04:32:03.000 --> 04:32:03.159 Yep. 5221 04:32:03.600 --> 04:32:05.079 Of course this is a bit of a scandal in 5222 04:32:05.120 --> 04:32:06.040 the UK. Take a look. 5223 04:32:06.120 --> 04:32:09.520 This is a screen grab from Gary Michael Capetta's book 5224 04:32:09.520 --> 04:32:11.200 some tabloid coverage in the UK. 5225 04:32:11.200 --> 04:32:16.079 Of this fight Wow Kelly Wrestling stars in two am 5226 04:32:16.239 --> 04:32:19.840 hotel knife brawl, grappling pals pull them upon. 5227 04:32:20.559 --> 04:32:22.920 A great headshot of Sid. I mean god, Oh, I 5228 04:32:23.000 --> 04:32:27.520 mean god. Yeah, that's the kind of guy who's enforcer 5229 04:32:27.680 --> 04:32:30.639 barbral Sid stab wounds and he's got his hands behind 5230 04:32:30.680 --> 04:32:33.440 his head and he's got his teeth grated in the photo. 5231 04:32:33.639 --> 04:32:34.479 Jesus Christ. 5232 04:32:35.079 --> 04:32:38.959 But is it true a real fight? The Miami Herald decided. 5233 04:32:39.120 --> 04:32:41.520 Alix Marvez, a w employee, decided to cover it with 5234 04:32:41.600 --> 04:32:46.239 that terminology. Oh man, that's brilliant. In October ninetety three, 5235 04:32:46.600 --> 04:32:48.879 the Halloween edition actually of the Miami Herald, he wrote 5236 04:32:49.040 --> 04:32:52.120 professional Wrestling move from Fantasy to Reality Tuesday. 5237 04:32:52.520 --> 04:32:54.120 It's reel as an actual fight. 5238 04:32:54.280 --> 04:32:54.520 Guys. 5239 04:32:55.360 --> 04:32:57.479 When Arn't Anderson and Sid Vicious engaged in a real 5240 04:32:57.559 --> 04:33:00.719 life fight that left both men hospitalized. Anderson lundy at 5241 04:33:00.799 --> 04:33:03.200 Vicious Sid Udi began squabbling on a bus while returning 5242 04:33:03.239 --> 04:33:05.880 from a World championshipresting showing card of England. Later that evening, 5243 04:33:05.959 --> 04:33:08.000 Vicious six ' eight three ten knocked on the door 5244 04:33:08.040 --> 04:33:10.240 of Erson's hotel room and said he wanted to apologize. 5245 04:33:10.319 --> 04:33:12.479 See Okay, that's already out there, that version of apology. 5246 04:33:13.040 --> 04:33:15.400 That's not what Arne says in his port filing. There's 5247 04:33:15.439 --> 04:33:19.080 no attempt to apologize for anything. There's just lying in 5248 04:33:19.159 --> 04:33:21.040 wait with a fucking piece of table in your hand 5249 04:33:21.200 --> 04:33:24.599 or chair ready to go. When Anderson sixty one two 5250 04:33:24.680 --> 04:33:27.439 forty answered, Vicious smashed him with a chair, and the 5251 04:33:27.560 --> 04:33:29.880 ensuing melee both wrestlers stabbed each other with a pair 5252 04:33:29.880 --> 04:33:32.439 of scissors. The two were separated by WCW wrestlers and 5253 04:33:32.479 --> 04:33:34.959 then were admitted to a local hospital. Both were discharged 5254 04:33:35.000 --> 04:33:37.040 by the next day and returned to the United States. 5255 04:33:37.200 --> 04:33:41.840 WW spokesperson Sharon Sidello of all people, she directing the 5256 04:33:41.919 --> 04:33:44.279 fucking awful mini movie that we played at the top 5257 04:33:44.319 --> 04:33:48.439 of this episode, was uncertain whether any discipline reaction would 5258 04:33:48.439 --> 04:33:50.360 be taken against either wrestler, or if they would miss 5259 04:33:50.360 --> 04:33:53.240 any upcoming appearances. Adello declined comment on the fight. I 5260 04:33:53.279 --> 04:33:56.599 don't even know why she took the call. If Vicious 5261 04:33:56.639 --> 04:33:59.639 were fired, ww's plans would be ruined. Vicious turned babyface 5262 04:33:59.799 --> 04:34:02.759 on Saturday's WCW Saturday Night telecast, and it's slated to 5263 04:34:02.799 --> 04:34:04.799 face Vader in December in the main event of the 5264 04:34:04.840 --> 04:34:07.680 Starcade pay per view show. However, this is his cheap shot, 5265 04:34:07.799 --> 04:34:10.639 Oh cheap shot on Anderson appears to leave WCW no 5266 04:34:10.759 --> 04:34:15.560 choice but to sack the sidster, no choice but to 5267 04:34:15.759 --> 04:34:16.639 sack the sidster. 5268 04:34:17.080 --> 04:34:19.599 There we go. I guess what are your thinks? In charge? 5269 04:34:19.680 --> 04:34:27.119 Here Inside the Ropes with Kenny McIntoshes, Eric Bischoff explains 5270 04:34:27.200 --> 04:34:30.840 this first, let's say, human resources challenge that he's encountered 5271 04:34:31.479 --> 04:34:34.000 of this magnitude since taking control a WCW. 5272 04:34:34.479 --> 04:34:37.599 Was it was late in the evening because it happened 5273 04:34:38.919 --> 04:34:40.560 in a different time zone. It was late in the 5274 04:34:40.599 --> 04:34:41.840 evening when I got a phone call. 5275 04:34:42.840 --> 04:34:44.159 You got that it was in a different time zone. 5276 04:34:44.159 --> 04:34:46.520 You get that, of course, Yes, yes, I'm going to 5277 04:34:47.560 --> 04:34:49.240 make sure you hear this is configured correct. 5278 04:34:49.639 --> 04:34:51.400 Late in me. Yes, it would have been late in 5279 04:34:51.439 --> 04:34:54.159 the evening. It was two am. No, it wouldn't have 5280 04:34:54.159 --> 04:34:54.479 been late. 5281 04:34:54.439 --> 04:34:54.840 In the evening. 5282 04:34:56.479 --> 04:34:58.639 Now, it was where he was because he wasn't on 5283 04:34:58.680 --> 04:35:01.680 the tour, right, it wasn't leave in the evening if 5284 04:35:01.880 --> 04:35:03.360 this happened at two am. With that, well you just 5285 04:35:03.439 --> 04:35:05.240 sent me so true And. 5286 04:35:08.439 --> 04:35:11.720 Oh, Eric, was it was late in the evening because 5287 04:35:12.240 --> 04:35:15.680 it happened in a different time zone. It was late 5288 04:35:15.720 --> 04:35:19.000 in the evening when I got a phone call and 5289 04:35:19.159 --> 04:35:23.319 Doug Dillinger, who was our head of security in WCW, 5290 04:35:23.560 --> 04:35:27.599 called me and said, Eric, you know, he told me 5291 04:35:27.680 --> 04:35:34.439 what happened, and he gave me pretty specific details as 5292 04:35:34.759 --> 04:35:37.080 to what led up to the incident. 5293 04:35:38.200 --> 04:35:40.919 And how it all went down. 5294 04:35:41.680 --> 04:35:44.560 So he's getting the version of this story from Doug Dillinger, who, 5295 04:35:44.680 --> 04:35:48.119 if I can read between the tea leaves here, arn 5296 04:35:48.200 --> 04:35:51.080 Anderson name drops in his own legal complaint which tells 5297 04:35:51.159 --> 04:35:54.119 me he's not afraid of Doug Dillinger being called before 5298 04:35:54.159 --> 04:35:56.400 a jury judge to give his account of things in 5299 04:35:56.520 --> 04:35:59.840 terms of the risk that Dillinger will say something unfavorable 5300 04:36:00.400 --> 04:36:03.000 toward arn Anderson's version of what happened. So remember it's 5301 04:36:03.040 --> 04:36:05.279 Dyllinger telling Bischoff who did what? 5302 04:36:05.439 --> 04:36:05.599 Here? 5303 04:36:05.880 --> 04:36:08.279 We'll see if that if that has bearing on his 5304 04:36:08.400 --> 04:36:09.080 ultimate decision. 5305 04:36:09.919 --> 04:36:10.479 Oh my god. 5306 04:36:10.680 --> 04:36:13.279 And first of all, it was horrified. You know, it's 5307 04:36:13.479 --> 04:36:15.639 late at night. I wasn't thinking it was. I think 5308 04:36:15.639 --> 04:36:18.439 it was on a weekend. Maybe wrong about that, I 5309 04:36:18.479 --> 04:36:21.000 can't remember, but it was it was at an odd 5310 04:36:21.240 --> 04:36:23.759 time when I wasn't thinking about work. I was home 5311 04:36:23.840 --> 04:36:27.240 with my family, my kids, and I get this phone 5312 04:36:27.319 --> 04:36:32.759 call Arnstabs Sid what. 5313 04:36:36.799 --> 04:36:38.560 Sesh uh? 5314 04:36:38.880 --> 04:36:41.560 Can I just get a sexual harassment problem? 5315 04:36:41.680 --> 04:36:42.000 Please? 5316 04:36:42.639 --> 04:36:42.919 Sure? 5317 04:36:46.439 --> 04:36:49.479 Can I get some other kind of other than somebody 5318 04:36:49.560 --> 04:36:52.360 tried to kill somebody with a pair of scissors. 5319 04:36:54.360 --> 04:36:56.560 That was a tough one. I wasn't prepared for that one. 5320 04:36:56.599 --> 04:36:57.639 I didn't know how to handle that. 5321 04:36:58.400 --> 04:37:02.240 But I got more and more information, and once I 5322 04:37:02.319 --> 04:37:04.319 got the update and everybody was helping them, we're just 5323 04:37:04.439 --> 04:37:07.200 going to die and bleed out and die in the 5324 04:37:07.520 --> 04:37:10.880 hallway in a hotel. Once I knew everybody was safe, 5325 04:37:11.240 --> 04:37:14.360 I went and conferred with the next day my boss. 5326 04:37:14.799 --> 04:37:19.560 His name was Bill Shaw at that time, and we said, well, 5327 04:37:19.639 --> 04:37:23.439 let's just wait till everybody gets back, try to get 5328 04:37:23.439 --> 04:37:26.240 as much detailed information as we can, and we'll figure out. 5329 04:37:26.080 --> 04:37:26.919 What to do from there. 5330 04:37:27.040 --> 04:37:30.000 But it was a bizarre, bizarre folcal to get. 5331 04:37:30.759 --> 04:37:33.400 But you said, had been in WWF, he's come back. 5332 04:37:33.720 --> 04:37:35.560 You know, I'm sending there are big plans for him. 5333 04:37:35.799 --> 04:37:38.599 He always gets let go. Was that a decision tough 5334 04:37:38.680 --> 04:37:40.880 to kind of, you know, take a big name and 5335 04:37:41.080 --> 04:37:42.400 kind of get rid of him. 5336 04:37:42.680 --> 04:37:46.119 No, it wasn't tough because I mean, that's such a 5337 04:37:46.360 --> 04:37:51.720 serious situation. There has to be a very cut and 5338 04:37:51.919 --> 04:37:56.319 dry decision. There could be no ambiguity, there could be 5339 04:37:56.479 --> 04:38:01.680 no doubt, there can be no shadows. You know, it 5340 04:38:01.880 --> 04:38:05.720 has to be an incredibly clear decision. And the reason 5341 04:38:06.279 --> 04:38:10.279 that I let sid go. I'm gonna be honest. I 5342 04:38:10.759 --> 04:38:15.040 like Arn Anderson, I really do, and I respect Arn Anderson. 5343 04:38:17.000 --> 04:38:22.720 However do you arn Anderson at that time in his life? 5344 04:38:23.840 --> 04:38:27.319 In the wrestling business, we call them disturbers, people that 5345 04:38:27.479 --> 04:38:31.040 just like distir right, just to be able to entertain 5346 04:38:31.119 --> 04:38:34.520 themselves by watching people react to this that they've stirred up. 5347 04:38:35.360 --> 04:38:36.680 That's how they got their entertainment. 5348 04:38:36.759 --> 04:38:39.040 That's how a lot of rest and talent kind of 5349 04:38:39.279 --> 04:38:42.400 entertained themselves on the road. They were pulling ribs on 5350 04:38:42.520 --> 04:38:45.560 each other, doing really horrible practical jokes on each other. 5351 04:38:46.240 --> 04:38:49.360 Or creating situations. 5352 04:38:48.599 --> 04:38:52.639 That they knew was going to cause drama and conflict 5353 04:38:53.080 --> 04:38:56.319 because they got a weird kind of enjoyment out of 5354 04:38:56.439 --> 04:38:57.119 watching all that. 5355 04:38:57.240 --> 04:38:58.119 Happen in front of them. 5356 04:38:58.200 --> 04:39:01.240 That's just, unfortunately what happened. I guess when you're on 5357 04:39:01.319 --> 04:39:01.919 the road a lot. 5358 04:39:04.119 --> 04:39:09.599 There was no doubt in my mind that Arne started 5359 04:39:09.720 --> 04:39:14.680 that issue because Arne, and it came out subsequently. Arn 5360 04:39:14.840 --> 04:39:17.400 was kind of like poking Sid, making fun of Sid, 5361 04:39:18.279 --> 04:39:22.720 challenging Sid, embarrassing Sid in front of his peers. That 5362 04:39:22.959 --> 04:39:26.240 was arn Anderson's mo when he was drinking. When he 5363 04:39:26.319 --> 04:39:30.240 was sober, he was fine, we all changed when we're drinking. 5364 04:39:30.599 --> 04:39:33.240 I was a lot more interesting two hours ago than 5365 04:39:33.240 --> 04:39:42.000 I am now. But I'm gonna do my best. But 5366 04:39:42.240 --> 04:39:44.200 Arn was the kind of guy that once he started 5367 04:39:44.240 --> 04:39:48.279 drinking and having fun, he was like he was the 5368 04:39:48.400 --> 04:39:52.759 class clown. Only his idea of humor was to make 5369 04:39:52.840 --> 04:39:57.279 fun of people, to moralize people, challenge people. 5370 04:39:59.080 --> 04:39:59.680 And I knew that. 5371 04:40:00.880 --> 04:40:03.919 But the reason I fired Sid is because Sid made 5372 04:40:03.959 --> 04:40:10.880 the decision. Backtrack, So Arn's poking the bear, making fun 5373 04:40:10.919 --> 04:40:13.159 of Sid in front of everybody in a bar. They're 5374 04:40:13.159 --> 04:40:17.599 all drinking, everybody's drinking, including Sid. Aren't everybody else aren't 5375 04:40:17.759 --> 04:40:21.360 making fun of him, challenging him, demoralizing him, degrading him 5376 04:40:21.360 --> 04:40:24.880 in front of people. Whatever the case was. They both 5377 04:40:24.959 --> 04:40:31.680 go up to their rooms. Eventually Sid decides to leave his. 5378 04:40:31.959 --> 04:40:34.759 Room and go confront Art. 5379 04:40:36.560 --> 04:40:37.439 That was the mistake. 5380 04:40:38.119 --> 04:40:40.720 If Sid would have gone to his room, Arn't would 5381 04:40:40.720 --> 04:40:43.119 have gone to his room. They both would have slept 5382 04:40:43.159 --> 04:40:46.119 it off, there would have been no issue. But Sid 5383 04:40:46.400 --> 04:40:52.159 made the decision to go confront Arn and then the 5384 04:40:52.279 --> 04:40:57.599 incident happened. That's why I fired Sid. He's the one 5385 04:40:57.639 --> 04:41:02.080 that made a decision to go. Take it one step further. Now, 5386 04:41:02.319 --> 04:41:05.639 I can't condone stabbing somebody with a pair of scissors, 5387 04:41:06.439 --> 04:41:13.279 but Arne was defending himself as crass or unreasonable as 5388 04:41:13.360 --> 04:41:16.599 that may sound, when you have a guy's big as 5389 04:41:16.680 --> 04:41:19.959 Sid Vicious coming to your room to kick your ass, 5390 04:41:20.319 --> 04:41:21.919 you're going to do whatever you have to do to 5391 04:41:22.080 --> 04:41:24.639 not get your ass kicked. And I again, I'm not 5392 04:41:24.759 --> 04:41:29.240 condoning that, but at least I can put it into context. 5393 04:41:30.200 --> 04:41:33.520 And the fact that Sid could have stayed in his 5394 04:41:33.680 --> 04:41:37.919 room and left the bee, but chose to ratchet the 5395 04:41:38.040 --> 04:41:42.799 violence up by confronting Arn, in my opinion, made him 5396 04:41:42.840 --> 04:41:43.639 the one that had to go. 5397 04:41:45.720 --> 04:41:47.959 But wait, was that the reason he had to go? 5398 04:41:49.720 --> 04:41:51.400 Why is that ultimately the reason? I mean, you've got 5399 04:41:51.479 --> 04:41:55.080 to remember Stark ninety three. Main event is on the books, 5400 04:41:55.959 --> 04:41:57.919 say it shout the angle. You heard the reference there 5401 04:41:57.959 --> 04:42:00.319 in Alex Marvez's piece about how they had just actually 5402 04:42:00.400 --> 04:42:04.200 turned Sid babyface in preparation for the Vader match before 5403 04:42:04.240 --> 04:42:07.200 this happened. Do you know who Sid was in the 5404 04:42:07.279 --> 04:42:10.639 ring with on the October thirtieth, nineteen ninety three edition 5405 04:42:10.680 --> 04:42:13.119 of Saturday Night, the first ww television show to air 5406 04:42:13.240 --> 04:42:15.959 after the stabbing took place over in the UK. No, 5407 04:42:16.319 --> 04:42:22.000 he's in the ring with Nature Boy Rick Flair, the 5408 04:42:22.080 --> 04:42:23.799 same guy that he's in the hotel saying needs to 5409 04:42:23.840 --> 04:42:26.000 move out of the way. Is the guy getting him 5410 04:42:26.040 --> 04:42:27.560 primed for the main event of the biggest show on 5411 04:42:27.680 --> 04:42:28.840 WCW's calendar year. 5412 04:42:29.119 --> 04:42:29.959 Oh my god. 5413 04:42:30.479 --> 04:42:33.680 So Sid, who's still managed by Colonel Parker by this point, 5414 04:42:33.759 --> 04:42:37.959 still being a heel seven days after the stabbing. This 5415 04:42:38.240 --> 04:42:42.240 is what wrestling fans around the country you see on WTBS. 5416 04:42:44.119 --> 04:42:46.720 Out of his US and Flayers a quick twiner than heels. 5417 04:42:48.479 --> 04:42:52.919 Ric Flair could be moments away, step three shots approval 5418 04:42:53.240 --> 04:42:54.319 couldree moments away. 5419 04:42:54.880 --> 04:42:57.319 I think this is the only Flare side on one match, 5420 04:42:57.439 --> 04:42:59.200 by the way, I think you're right. 5421 04:43:02.799 --> 04:43:10.560 Blocked by Fishes. WHOA But Fishes didn't get blocking rams 5422 04:43:10.599 --> 04:43:11.959 the Nature Boy into the buck hole. 5423 04:43:12.360 --> 04:43:14.520 Do you remember them going one on one in like WWF. 5424 04:43:14.599 --> 04:43:18.319 I don't No, I don't think so. No, because unless 5425 04:43:18.400 --> 04:43:21.000 they did in something like house showing like ninety one, right. 5426 04:43:23.599 --> 04:43:27.680 As Sid Vicious now, thank you, gonna try the power 5427 04:43:27.759 --> 04:43:28.159 bomb here? 5428 04:43:29.159 --> 04:43:29.520 I don't know. 5429 04:43:29.639 --> 04:43:30.599 Maybe the wheels take. 5430 04:43:30.520 --> 04:43:31.159 It out from Leondery. 5431 04:43:31.200 --> 04:43:32.840 Maybe he can't get him up like he should. 5432 04:43:35.599 --> 04:43:37.720 Let's see what a flare upside down. 5433 04:43:38.279 --> 04:43:42.240 But still a center stage days by the ways off 5434 04:43:42.319 --> 04:43:45.520 the top. Put any event to seats on the hard 5435 04:43:45.560 --> 04:43:49.119 camera side, brings him back down. 5436 04:43:49.720 --> 04:43:51.080 Oh, they both hit hard at time. 5437 04:43:51.400 --> 04:43:54.560 Kelly the back suplex, but Fishes got the worst end 5438 04:43:54.599 --> 04:43:58.360 of that one. It ain't offen big. Sid gets taken 5439 04:43:58.400 --> 04:44:04.799 off his feet. Flair with a cover, whoa any can 5440 04:44:04.919 --> 04:44:05.639 of pulted flair? 5441 04:44:05.680 --> 04:44:08.119 All power kickout by Sid with the gua pret with 5442 04:44:08.200 --> 04:44:10.360 the press there the bench press, and. 5443 04:44:10.479 --> 04:44:12.080 Now Rick Claire up top again. 5444 04:44:12.720 --> 04:44:15.479 Sid fishes up to me. Didn't do anything about it? 5445 04:44:16.040 --> 04:44:19.200 Rick Flare tandel and Flare goes for the Figure four, 5446 04:44:20.639 --> 04:44:25.840 locks it in and he's hooked. He's gotta hook that 5447 04:44:26.040 --> 04:44:30.119 Sid fish us Colonel Parker losing the ship at inside. 5448 04:44:31.400 --> 04:44:33.439 Set. 5449 04:44:33.799 --> 04:44:37.880 Now Colonel Parker's up on the apron. Sid reverses the 5450 04:44:37.880 --> 04:44:41.799 Figure four, Parker's in the ring and kicks Flair in 5451 04:44:41.799 --> 04:44:42.520 the head good. 5452 04:44:42.959 --> 04:44:44.159 Colonel Parker's come in. 5453 04:44:45.799 --> 04:44:47.880 That's gonna get flair of the wind. They're gonna just 5454 04:44:47.959 --> 04:44:53.240 wantify sa Hey, give flair the wind sides the turn as. 5455 04:44:53.119 --> 04:44:58.000 A result about this clification make too hold. 5456 04:44:57.520 --> 04:44:59.599 And it's here boss where Sid is sick of his 5457 04:44:59.680 --> 04:45:03.040 heeling manager Wow on. 5458 04:45:03.159 --> 04:45:07.040 Words, gay tend Why you're on TVs Hey? All the 5459 04:45:07.119 --> 04:45:11.639 turner could do is react, look at fair, you know, look. 5460 04:45:11.520 --> 04:45:12.680 To please with the perdile. 5461 04:45:13.040 --> 04:45:15.680 Why did you look at PA's try to explain to 5462 04:45:15.880 --> 04:45:17.319 one now when he had a time. 5463 04:45:17.400 --> 04:45:21.119 I don't stand he was incredible and not Sid christious 5464 04:45:21.520 --> 04:45:25.520 and the corner cough sackius. The title shot Sid looking 5465 04:45:25.560 --> 04:45:29.040 at people like, shouldn't necessarily say that? Toody. I think 5466 04:45:29.080 --> 04:45:31.680 that's what Sid saying right now. The turtle make the 5467 04:45:31.759 --> 04:45:32.599 moves because he had to. 5468 04:45:32.840 --> 04:45:33.720 We are out of time. 5469 04:45:34.000 --> 04:45:36.720 We got a guy. We're gonna tell your he's got 5470 04:45:36.799 --> 04:45:38.720 curib you next week. 5471 04:45:42.080 --> 04:45:45.200 And Saturday Night fades to black. Wow, that's wild it 5472 04:45:45.360 --> 04:45:47.959 Sid elevating Colonel Parker. They don't show the impact on 5473 04:45:48.000 --> 04:45:50.599 the choke slam, but they do show him lifting him 5474 04:45:50.599 --> 04:45:53.279 in the goose hole. And now Sid is ready ready 5475 04:45:53.319 --> 04:45:56.560 to go as the top guy, potential future world champion 5476 04:45:56.680 --> 04:45:59.680 to dethrone Vader the Monster, and we're on our way. 5477 04:45:59.759 --> 04:46:01.680 We're at least so we thought. It's just amazing that 5478 04:46:01.799 --> 04:46:06.159 that airs after after Sid stabs are and over a 5479 04:46:06.200 --> 04:46:07.119 fight over Rick Flair. 5480 04:46:07.799 --> 04:46:09.360 That's really fucking crazy. 5481 04:46:09.479 --> 04:46:11.560 That is That's that's Halloween season. You want to talk 5482 04:46:11.560 --> 04:46:14.439 about serendipity. Oh yeah, right, that's Halloween nineteen ninety three. 5483 04:46:14.439 --> 04:46:17.240 As we sit here upon Halloween two thousand and twenty four, 5484 04:46:17.360 --> 04:46:19.959 ten years strong on TLFT, he's. 5485 04:46:19.840 --> 04:46:21.880 A lapsed fan wrestling podcast. 5486 04:46:39.240 --> 04:46:42.759 He's the Lapsed Fan Wrestling Podcast with Jack and Carn 5487 04:46:42.880 --> 04:46:44.599 Seo and JP Sorrow. 5488 04:46:45.080 --> 04:46:47.360 But was that the reason ultimately that Sid was fired 5489 04:46:47.360 --> 04:46:49.599 by WCW in nineteen ninety three. I mean, that's a 5490 04:46:49.639 --> 04:46:52.959 lot of equity they just put into Sid shooting that 5491 04:46:53.040 --> 04:46:55.479 big angle and a one on one match with Rick 5492 04:46:55.520 --> 04:46:57.720 Flair on Saturday Night, which this is of course pre 5493 04:46:57.880 --> 04:47:00.599 Monday nightro So Saturday Night was really the most primo 5494 04:47:00.720 --> 04:47:04.439 exposure they could give their biggest angles. You know, I 5495 04:47:04.439 --> 04:47:06.240 don't know, what, wouldn't it be easy to talk WCW 5496 04:47:06.360 --> 04:47:08.919 brass into maybe keeping Sid around even after he nearly 5497 04:47:09.119 --> 04:47:10.560 fucking killed Arn Anderson. 5498 04:47:12.360 --> 04:47:20.119 I'm gonna guess he just did something stupid like pour 5499 04:47:20.759 --> 04:47:23.680 a can of Vienna's down the garbage disposers. 5500 04:47:25.360 --> 04:47:28.959 Not quite that bad, but you know, you hear Bischoffs say, 5501 04:47:28.959 --> 04:47:31.599 in no uncertain terms, he fired Sid because Sid instigated 5502 04:47:31.639 --> 04:47:33.360 Sid took it to the next level in terms of, 5503 04:47:33.759 --> 04:47:36.080 you know, the fight with arn Anderson. But if that 5504 04:47:36.279 --> 04:47:38.599 was the case, then why would Sid be talking to 5505 04:47:38.680 --> 04:47:43.759 Hannibal about a series of contract negotiations that took place 5506 04:47:44.000 --> 04:47:49.439 after the stabbing OO, which WCW seemed quite keen on 5507 04:47:49.639 --> 04:47:51.919 keeping the Psycho one. And to hear Sid tell it here, 5508 04:47:52.400 --> 04:47:54.479 it's a whole different reason that he never came back 5509 04:47:54.520 --> 04:47:58.240 to WCW after leaving arn Anderson in a bloody heap 5510 04:47:58.279 --> 04:47:58.720 in England. 5511 04:48:00.200 --> 04:48:02.080 X Y, you were the one that was let go 5512 04:48:02.200 --> 04:48:02.479 out of that. 5513 04:48:02.799 --> 04:48:04.840 No, this is what happened. I went into the office 5514 04:48:04.880 --> 04:48:06.080 with my Oh, this is what happened. This is what 5515 04:48:06.200 --> 04:48:09.599 started to fight. Right before we go overseas, Ary Bischall 5516 04:48:09.680 --> 04:48:13.040 tells to me. He says, uh, we understand that I 5517 04:48:13.200 --> 04:48:14.919 never signed a contract there while. 5518 04:48:14.799 --> 04:48:15.599 O he was boss. 5519 04:48:16.200 --> 04:48:18.720 Now, when Eric took over, I was still getting paid 5520 04:48:18.919 --> 04:48:21.599 on the original contract. But when it was when I 5521 04:48:21.799 --> 04:48:24.360 was to work with Vader for the World Championship, that 5522 04:48:24.560 --> 04:48:25.880 my year would have been up and I would have 5523 04:48:26.000 --> 04:48:29.279 got to ask for more money. So I hate this 5524 04:48:29.479 --> 04:48:31.799 is true, the true story. So Eric's talked to me. 5525 04:48:31.840 --> 04:48:33.880 He says, said, you haven't got it. You have you're 5526 04:48:33.880 --> 04:48:36.759 not under contract. I said, yeah, now I knew it. 5527 04:48:36.840 --> 04:48:38.799 I didn't think it meant that much. So he goes, well, 5528 04:48:38.799 --> 04:48:40.240 we need to get you in the contract, but not 5529 04:48:40.319 --> 04:48:42.479 what I'm getting paid now. He said, well, what do 5530 04:48:42.520 --> 04:48:43.759 you want? When I told him, he said, no, we're 5531 04:48:43.799 --> 04:48:45.279 not gonna get that to you. Well, then I'm not 5532 04:48:45.360 --> 04:48:48.200 gonna be here any longer. So he says, okay, well 5533 04:48:48.200 --> 04:48:48.799 we'll give it to you. 5534 04:48:48.919 --> 04:48:50.959 So he gave it to me. I signed it. Were 5535 04:48:51.040 --> 04:48:54.279 overseas and that's pretty easily. What the argument was, I 5536 04:48:54.400 --> 04:48:57.599 just got a big pay paid increase, you know. So 5537 04:48:58.880 --> 04:49:02.840 what was the question again, uh to you being okay? 5538 04:49:02.959 --> 04:49:06.159 So when after the fight and we came back home 5539 04:49:06.319 --> 04:49:08.080 and I held up a little bit, me and my 5540 04:49:08.200 --> 04:49:12.080 lawyer Bill after I mean uh uh not Bill, after 5541 04:49:13.599 --> 04:49:16.400 Bill Effert out of Memphis. He went with me there, 5542 04:49:16.759 --> 04:49:18.279 and this is what they told me in the office 5543 04:49:18.319 --> 04:49:20.720 that day. If I would be willing to go back 5544 04:49:20.759 --> 04:49:23.040 to my original pay I could keep my job, and 5545 04:49:23.119 --> 04:49:23.520 I said no. 5546 04:49:24.200 --> 04:49:26.599 And that's why I lost my job? Was it because 5547 04:49:26.599 --> 04:49:29.040 of what I did? Because we take a pay cut. 5548 04:49:32.479 --> 04:49:36.200 Sounds about right, thank you very much. Why are you 5549 04:49:36.400 --> 04:49:38.360 negotiating with the guy if he's if he's in the 5550 04:49:38.400 --> 04:49:39.360 wrong here and needs to go. 5551 04:49:40.200 --> 04:49:43.639 I mean, they're always listen. That's exactly it right there. 5552 04:49:43.680 --> 04:49:49.880 I mean, I I wrestling doesn't care. That's fucking correct, 5553 04:49:50.400 --> 04:49:53.080 all right. If you tried to fucking kill somebody or 5554 04:49:53.119 --> 04:49:57.159 you injured somebody greatly, what they care about is they 5555 04:49:57.200 --> 04:49:58.799 don't want to give you more money than they think 5556 04:49:58.840 --> 04:49:59.240 you deserve. 5557 04:50:00.880 --> 04:50:02.799 And Sid, that's Sid's omo and that's why you drove 5558 04:50:02.840 --> 04:50:05.119 people so crazy. If you listen closely, he said that 5559 04:50:05.200 --> 04:50:07.759 that's really what the fight with arn in London was about, 5560 04:50:07.880 --> 04:50:10.560 was the fact that he had just gotten them to 5561 04:50:10.639 --> 04:50:13.200 agree to give him more money because he didn't have 5562 04:50:13.200 --> 04:50:16.360 an ink to deal under early so and that was 5563 04:50:16.400 --> 04:50:19.400 Sid's That's why people hated Sid from a front office perspective, 5564 04:50:19.439 --> 04:50:21.000 and you know from some of the wrestlers as well, 5565 04:50:21.599 --> 04:50:24.000 is that he would just decide whenever the hell he wanted. 5566 04:50:24.959 --> 04:50:27.000 That you give me more money or I'm leaving, and 5567 04:50:27.080 --> 04:50:29.319 he would leave, and he would call your bluff, even 5568 04:50:29.319 --> 04:50:30.680 if he had a contract with you, he would go 5569 04:50:30.680 --> 04:50:33.680 ahead sue me, basically, sue me for not showing up. 5570 04:50:33.720 --> 04:50:35.759 I know you won't, and he just he. 5571 04:50:35.840 --> 04:50:39.159 Is not obligated that's correct, to honor anything that's correct. 5572 04:50:39.200 --> 04:50:41.759 And that's why there's so much, so many grains of truth, 5573 04:50:41.799 --> 04:50:46.119 and that version of SID that we've interpolated over the 5574 04:50:46.240 --> 04:50:47.200 years here at TLF. 5575 04:50:47.799 --> 04:50:48.880 That's so fucking crazy. 5576 04:50:49.119 --> 04:50:52.599 So I don't know, I don't know why you're glibbling 5577 04:50:52.680 --> 04:50:55.319 over pay. If you need to get rid of SID 5578 04:50:55.400 --> 04:50:58.680 for being the aggressor in England, sounds to me like bullshit. 5579 04:51:00.279 --> 04:51:04.080 Sid goes on to say, I agree with that for sure. 5580 04:51:04.319 --> 04:51:07.799 Goes on to say in that interview that Bishof from 5581 04:51:07.799 --> 04:51:09.680 what he understood, had been saying that guys at WCW 5582 04:51:09.799 --> 04:51:12.200 were threatening to quit the organization if Sid wasn't fired, 5583 04:51:13.040 --> 04:51:15.040 and that his lawyers went into a meeting with Eric 5584 04:51:15.080 --> 04:51:17.479 and Bill Shaw and that he was later released. But 5585 04:51:17.560 --> 04:51:19.919 there was never any kind of ultimatum in terms of 5586 04:51:20.959 --> 04:51:23.240 one of the two has to go or you know, 5587 04:51:23.919 --> 04:51:27.599 anything like that. So he disagrees with the I think 5588 04:51:27.639 --> 04:51:29.919 the long standing kind of sense that there would have 5589 04:51:29.919 --> 04:51:31.360 been like a mutiny in the locker room if SID 5590 04:51:31.479 --> 04:51:34.919 wasn't fired. Well, they certainly did a lot towards signing 5591 04:51:35.000 --> 04:51:37.319 him to a new contract before the blood was probably 5592 04:51:37.360 --> 04:51:40.599 even dry in the carpet back in Blackburn. And of 5593 04:51:40.680 --> 04:51:44.319 course we can't forget this. November ninety three is upon 5594 04:51:44.439 --> 04:51:46.880 us and Vince McMahon is about to be indicted on 5595 04:51:47.000 --> 04:51:51.240 conspiracy to distribute antabolic steroids, and the scrutiny on steroid 5596 04:51:51.319 --> 04:51:54.439 use in pro wrestling is now at a level unforeseen. 5597 04:51:55.000 --> 04:51:58.080 We're now talking charges. We're not talking corporate disgrace. We're 5598 04:51:58.119 --> 04:52:03.279 now talking is wcwn ight ah. And in that environment, 5599 04:52:03.439 --> 04:52:07.520 I think, as we learned at WWF, SID doesn't necessarily thrive. 5600 04:52:08.840 --> 04:52:10.880 And just as much as Colonel Parker reminds us that 5601 04:52:11.000 --> 04:52:12.959 steroids may have had a hell of a lot to 5602 04:52:13.040 --> 04:52:15.119 do with why Sid was in the mood he was 5603 04:52:15.159 --> 04:52:18.240 in when he nearly killed Arne Anderson, and steroids had 5604 04:52:18.279 --> 04:52:20.319 to do what it had to do with the failed 5605 04:52:20.360 --> 04:52:23.279 test around WrestleMania eight and SID suddenly finding a reason 5606 04:52:23.319 --> 04:52:26.360 to leave in a huff shortly after that event, so too, 5607 04:52:26.959 --> 04:52:32.919 does his forthcoming match with Vader get complicated by the 5608 04:52:33.040 --> 04:52:36.560 drug component? The Observer November eighth, nineteen ninety three. Meltzer 5609 04:52:36.639 --> 04:52:39.200 rites eventually, after being told ahead of time all ww 5610 04:52:39.279 --> 04:52:41.759 wrestlers were supposed to go in one afternoon before taping 5611 04:52:41.799 --> 04:52:44.279 to be steroid tested, the results are lack thereof of 5612 04:52:44.360 --> 04:52:46.840 such have turned into only the latest and a long 5613 04:52:46.919 --> 04:52:49.040 series of laughing stocks when it comes to the subject. 5614 04:52:49.080 --> 04:52:52.000 Since either failure didn't result in suspension, as the existing 5615 04:52:52.080 --> 04:52:55.400 policy stated, or nobody failed, what's even the thought of 5616 04:52:55.840 --> 04:52:59.319 most preposterous Given the beatable nature of tests and lackluster 5617 04:52:59.439 --> 04:53:02.759 monitoring them. The one thing we know for sure, Meltzer wrote, 5618 04:53:03.240 --> 04:53:07.040 is that sid Udy didn't fail that test. He missed 5619 04:53:07.159 --> 04:53:11.080 the test. Yes, he had a valid reason. Meltzer says 5620 04:53:11.400 --> 04:53:13.520 the company booked him for a public appearance the day 5621 04:53:13.560 --> 04:53:16.279 before and he couldn't get back in time. Somehow, said 5622 04:53:16.319 --> 04:53:19.439 always finds himself in these situations. Man, it's always an airport, 5623 04:53:19.520 --> 04:53:22.959 it's always a plane that didn't show up. Eventually, according 5624 04:53:23.000 --> 04:53:24.840 to several reports, he was asked to take the test 5625 04:53:25.200 --> 04:53:27.360 at a television taping a few weeks later and walked 5626 04:53:28.000 --> 04:53:31.360 out by company policy. That would mean an automatic six 5627 04:53:31.400 --> 04:53:33.680 weeks suspension and no reinstatement until he was able to 5628 04:53:33.720 --> 04:53:37.200 pass a new test. The next day everything was smoothed out. 5629 04:53:38.000 --> 04:53:40.040 It is the belief of many wrestlers, but unable to 5630 04:53:40.080 --> 04:53:42.080 be confirmed at press time, that Yudi never took the 5631 04:53:42.159 --> 04:53:45.159 test and may have even refused again on a later occasion, 5632 04:53:45.279 --> 04:53:48.880 or even on two later occasions, a statement TBSNWIP management 5633 04:53:48.880 --> 04:53:52.400 had refused to comment on despite several media requests earlier 5634 04:53:52.400 --> 04:53:54.799 this week in the week of the latest incidents. If 5635 04:53:54.799 --> 04:53:57.919 this is true, and if is the key word because 5636 04:53:57.959 --> 04:53:59.799 nothing is confirmed, then here is the crux of this 5637 04:54:00.159 --> 04:54:01.319 entire situation right here. 5638 04:54:01.520 --> 04:54:01.759 M H. 5639 04:54:02.360 --> 04:54:04.400 How can a company Meltzer Rights, give a huge raise 5640 04:54:04.759 --> 04:54:06.799 and make the decision to make someone world champion and 5641 04:54:06.880 --> 04:54:09.000 build the company around someone with a track record like 5642 04:54:09.119 --> 04:54:13.119 this easy because of how the man looks. Rules that 5643 04:54:13.159 --> 04:54:15.119 apply to most wrestlers don't apply to someone who is 5644 04:54:15.119 --> 04:54:17.759 six eight, three hundred pounds exactly, little body fat and 5645 04:54:17.759 --> 04:54:20.479 freakish muscularity, even though people who look like that are 5646 04:54:20.520 --> 04:54:23.279 the exact reason wrestling companies have been pressured into making 5647 04:54:23.360 --> 04:54:25.799 those rules to begin with. If Sidyudy walked out on 5648 04:54:25.880 --> 04:54:28.319 a test and wasn't suspended right then and there. The 5649 04:54:28.439 --> 04:54:31.119 management of WCW needs to answer the question as to 5650 04:54:31.119 --> 04:54:34.000 why it's written policy wasn't enforced. If sid Udy did 5651 04:54:34.040 --> 04:54:36.599 this more than once and wasn't fired after the second occurrence, 5652 04:54:36.680 --> 04:54:38.720 more questions need to be answered, and those who let 5653 04:54:38.799 --> 04:54:41.040 him slide need to be called on the carpet and 5654 04:54:41.200 --> 04:54:44.639 severely reprimanded for creating the double standard. If those officials 5655 04:54:44.720 --> 04:54:47.599 didn't immediately follow up by insisting on changing the planned 5656 04:54:47.639 --> 04:54:50.360 storyline of sid Vicious becoming the next world champion at 5657 04:54:50.360 --> 04:54:52.520 that point, there was a strong question as to whether 5658 04:54:52.560 --> 04:54:55.360 they should be allowed to continue in their positions. If 5659 04:54:55.400 --> 04:54:57.200 he did this a third time, those who allowed it 5660 04:54:57.279 --> 04:54:59.680 and continue to allow the storylines to go unchecked and 5661 04:55:00.000 --> 04:55:02.880 direction of making him world champion while possessing knowledge of this, 5662 04:55:03.080 --> 04:55:05.439 need to be fired, not to mention the legal liability 5663 04:55:05.520 --> 04:55:07.200 they should have to answer for because of the end 5664 04:55:07.240 --> 04:55:09.119 result of all this. If he walked out on a 5665 04:55:09.159 --> 04:55:12.159 steroid test and was subsequently given a raise or a 5666 04:55:12.240 --> 04:55:15.400 bonus to do a job, or however it is worded, 5667 04:55:15.959 --> 04:55:18.400 the people responsible for making the decisions to give him 5668 04:55:18.439 --> 04:55:20.360 that raise and still give him the world title should 5669 04:55:20.400 --> 04:55:22.959 be fired along with, if not ahead of, sid Udy. 5670 04:55:23.439 --> 04:55:25.639 Even if steroids are not applicable to this story and 5671 04:55:25.759 --> 04:55:28.240 none of the items regarding walking out on tests are true, 5672 04:55:28.639 --> 04:55:31.400 there is still no way WCW can justify sid Udy 5673 04:55:31.720 --> 04:55:35.279 remaining part of the company. There have been no confirmation 5674 04:55:35.400 --> 04:55:37.400 whether the stories regarding whether or not Uty had been 5675 04:55:37.439 --> 04:55:40.680 steroid tested before leaving on the tour are true talk 5676 04:55:40.720 --> 04:55:43.560 about the European tour since ww has avoided returning phone 5677 04:55:43.599 --> 04:55:45.680 calls to those who asked. The very fact of that 5678 04:55:45.759 --> 04:55:48.159 has only fueled further rampant rumors. While there may be 5679 04:55:48.279 --> 04:55:50.479 no tangible evidence of steroid use by sid Uty that 5680 04:55:50.479 --> 04:55:52.159 would hold up in a court of law, the incident 5681 04:55:52.200 --> 04:55:55.119 has largely raised the steroid issue once again among both 5682 04:55:55.159 --> 04:55:57.799 wrestlers and those covering wrestling. It is believed that several 5683 04:55:57.959 --> 04:56:00.240 WCW wrestlers who did take the recent drug test tests 5684 04:56:00.319 --> 04:56:03.080 failed the test and are being required to attend to 5685 04:56:03.119 --> 04:56:05.279 one day seminar on the evils of steroids and other 5686 04:56:05.279 --> 04:56:08.520 I legal drugs. Whatever evils, there may be a question 5687 04:56:08.639 --> 04:56:11.360 that has to be asked by all wrestlers is if 5688 04:56:11.520 --> 04:56:15.159 those evils override the potential benefits, a significant advantage in 5689 04:56:15.200 --> 04:56:16.919 obtaining a job, and an ability to earn a more 5690 04:56:16.959 --> 04:56:20.159 lucrative contract with more job security than far more talented counterparts. 5691 04:56:20.479 --> 04:56:22.919 No suspensions were levied. This may have been because the 5692 04:56:22.919 --> 04:56:24.720 company would have had a hard time even fielding a 5693 04:56:24.799 --> 04:56:27.799 line up for the European Tour and all these major 5694 04:56:27.840 --> 04:56:30.240 shows if the written rules regarding six weeks suspensions for 5695 04:56:30.279 --> 04:56:32.880 first defense and no reinstatement until label to pass a 5696 04:56:32.959 --> 04:56:35.000 subsequent test had been enforced. 5697 04:56:35.319 --> 04:56:36.200 Think about that boss. 5698 04:56:36.599 --> 04:56:38.639 Did sid get on that plane to go on this 5699 04:56:38.799 --> 04:56:41.959 tour where he nearly stabbed arn Anderson to death when 5700 04:56:42.000 --> 04:56:43.840 he should have been on a six week suspension for 5701 04:56:43.919 --> 04:56:45.080 walking out on a drug test? 5702 04:56:45.919 --> 04:56:46.759 Ye huh. 5703 04:56:48.319 --> 04:56:48.520 Yeah. 5704 04:56:48.680 --> 04:56:50.599 The belief of at least some wrestlers melts or rites 5705 04:56:50.639 --> 04:56:52.880 is that the company is serious about the steroids, subject 5706 04:56:52.919 --> 04:56:54.599 at least to the level of wanting everyone to be 5707 04:56:54.639 --> 04:56:56.759 able to pass tests, which to this point are given 5708 04:56:56.799 --> 04:56:59.080 with advanced warning, which makes them the easiest to beat. 5709 04:56:59.279 --> 04:57:01.439 When it pertains to the rank and file wrestlers, it 5710 04:57:01.479 --> 04:57:03.880 has appeared obvious that many wrestlers that had been using 5711 04:57:03.959 --> 04:57:06.319 steroids two months back are now off the stuff, But 5712 04:57:06.439 --> 04:57:08.680 to suggest that it is uniform throughout the company, or 5713 04:57:08.759 --> 04:57:11.119 that use is at the same level as the current WWF, 5714 04:57:11.279 --> 04:57:13.400 which has a far more strict testing system in place, 5715 04:57:13.599 --> 04:57:16.919 would be ridiculous. Whether the company would seriously enforce its 5716 04:57:16.959 --> 04:57:18.959 rules should a main event or fail a second test 5717 04:57:19.119 --> 04:57:21.200 during a key time period such as just before a 5718 04:57:21.240 --> 04:57:23.959 pay per view or clash, or test regularly those who 5719 04:57:24.000 --> 04:57:26.560 show signs of use, as it's written policy states, is 5720 04:57:26.639 --> 04:57:30.479 at best a matter of conjecture. Further on in the Observer, 5721 04:57:30.880 --> 04:57:35.479 Davy Boy said Vicious fired by WCW. Yes, big boss 5722 04:57:35.520 --> 04:57:39.880 Man replaces Smith first rude at stargate. That's correct in 5723 04:57:40.040 --> 04:57:44.200 unrelated incidents melts the rights too. WCW's most prominent bullseye 5724 04:57:44.279 --> 04:57:48.479 posters for federal investigations, Davy Boy Smith and said Vicious 5725 04:57:48.919 --> 04:57:51.520 were both fired man. Davy Boy likes to get fired 5726 04:57:51.560 --> 04:57:52.959 in twos for steroids, doesn't he? 5727 04:57:53.599 --> 04:57:55.639 Yes? He does? Vicious? Who had signed? 5728 04:57:55.680 --> 04:57:55.799 Who? 5729 04:57:56.200 --> 04:57:58.680 Both these guys coming to WCW, by the way, after 5730 04:57:58.799 --> 04:58:01.119 leaving WWF with that cloud hanging over their head, make 5731 04:58:01.159 --> 04:58:04.279 no mistake about it. With the grand jury and paneled 5732 04:58:04.279 --> 04:58:07.040 for the vincent indictment. All that everyone knows people being 5733 04:58:07.080 --> 04:58:10.799 subpoenaed people being interviewed. Come on in, come on in 5734 04:58:11.959 --> 04:58:14.639 a pal it's going on. Come on int w CW 5735 04:58:14.799 --> 04:58:15.720 and you can do what you gotta do. 5736 04:58:16.360 --> 04:58:17.799 What are you feeling, Powell? Are You're feeling good? 5737 04:58:18.159 --> 04:58:18.200 This? 5738 04:58:18.360 --> 04:58:19.560 You're feeling natural? 5739 04:58:21.040 --> 04:58:26.479 Looking like a stack of dimes. Vicious, who agreed verbally 5740 04:58:26.840 --> 04:58:29.400 with the WCW officials to a four year, two point 5741 04:58:29.479 --> 04:58:33.000 four million dollar contract just before the October twenty sixth 5742 04:58:33.040 --> 04:58:35.400 incident in Blackburn, England, where he and arn Anderson stabbed 5743 04:58:35.439 --> 04:58:37.720 one another in a fight that got out of control. Technically, 5744 04:58:37.919 --> 04:58:40.599 wasn't fired over the incident with arn Anderson because of 5745 04:58:40.680 --> 04:58:45.560 legal reasons, but for what was termed overall volatile behavior. Yes, 5746 04:58:45.720 --> 04:58:49.080 Elzer says because of WCW officials apparently letting Vicious slide 5747 04:58:49.119 --> 04:58:52.000 on steroid tests. There is a very messy can of 5748 04:58:52.080 --> 04:58:54.520 worms that still has to be dealt with, so any 5749 04:58:54.560 --> 04:58:56.880 decision being absolute may not wind up being the case 5750 04:58:56.919 --> 04:58:59.759 in the long run. But for now, Vicious has been fired. 5751 04:59:00.080 --> 04:59:02.400 Arn Anderson, who has been suspended since the incident, will 5752 04:59:02.400 --> 04:59:05.279 be reinstated honor around December twenty eighth. It's been ironic 5753 04:59:05.319 --> 04:59:07.479 since television is not taped months in advance is now 5754 04:59:07.560 --> 04:59:10.439 taped months in advance to see Anderson doing interviews that 5755 04:59:10.520 --> 04:59:16.200 were taped in September and October talking about being stabbed 5756 04:59:16.240 --> 04:59:20.279 in the back. Davy Boyce Smith was also fired this 5757 04:59:20.360 --> 04:59:22.360 past week, or portally to set an example about too 5758 04:59:22.400 --> 04:59:26.119 many no shows, and Meltzer's final report on said Vicious 5759 04:59:26.159 --> 04:59:29.360 and WCW in nineteen ninety three reads as such. Said 5760 04:59:29.439 --> 04:59:32.680 Vicious was in the office on Thursday and was told 5761 04:59:32.720 --> 04:59:34.560 by a high ranking official that they'd like him back 5762 04:59:34.560 --> 04:59:37.080 as soon as possible, but put the heat on the 5763 04:59:37.119 --> 04:59:39.119 other wrestlers for not wanting him back, and saying they'd 5764 04:59:39.159 --> 04:59:40.680 bring him back, but they'd have to wait for the 5765 04:59:40.720 --> 04:59:43.680 wrestlers to cool down. This came two weeks after WCW 5766 04:59:43.799 --> 04:59:46.720 informed vicious lawyers that he was terminated and the four 5767 04:59:46.799 --> 04:59:48.880 year contract for two point four million that both sides 5768 04:59:48.880 --> 04:59:50.799 had agreed to wasn't going to be honored due to 5769 04:59:50.880 --> 04:59:51.799 his volatile nature. 5770 04:59:55.240 --> 05:00:04.439 A Yeah, town checks out. YEP, sounds like sounds like 5771 05:00:04.479 --> 05:00:05.279 the wrestling business. 5772 05:00:06.520 --> 05:00:11.080 I don't think you can get any more accurate with 5773 05:00:11.200 --> 05:00:15.119 the wrestling business than this whole fucking bunch of sid 5774 05:00:15.159 --> 05:00:17.119 tells us. Yeah, it tells us about the business. 5775 05:00:17.119 --> 05:00:18.919 Doesn't. He yes, he does. 5776 05:00:19.639 --> 05:00:23.840 And as we started with Booker T feeling just so grateful, 5777 05:00:25.040 --> 05:00:28.360 so humbled, and so protected by Sid's influence in WCW, 5778 05:00:28.479 --> 05:00:30.200 getting them into the company that led to him becoming 5779 05:00:30.200 --> 05:00:32.479 a national star and really setting him on the course 5780 05:00:32.520 --> 05:00:35.599 to make his life's fortune in the professional wrestling business. 5781 05:00:36.360 --> 05:00:39.520 So too was Booker T backstage when his patron Saint, 5782 05:00:39.560 --> 05:00:42.240 all of a sudden has to walk out the door, 5783 05:00:42.720 --> 05:00:44.520 just like you walked out of the World Wrestling Federation 5784 05:00:44.720 --> 05:00:50.080 with Downtown Bruno dragging his luggage behind him, because things 5785 05:00:50.119 --> 05:00:53.479 aren't going Sid's way. Sid's unhappy, and so we turned 5786 05:00:53.479 --> 05:00:56.000 to Booker T's book for a fly of the wall 5787 05:00:56.080 --> 05:00:59.159 perspective of how this all played out. It was a 5788 05:00:59.240 --> 05:01:02.360 pr nightmare for WCW. A few weeks later, back in 5789 05:01:02.400 --> 05:01:04.880 the state, Sid and arm were suspended without pay. It 5790 05:01:05.000 --> 05:01:06.680 was rumored that a bunch of guys threatened to walk 5791 05:01:06.720 --> 05:01:09.000 if Sid wasn't released. By December, Sid was let go. 5792 05:01:09.799 --> 05:01:12.119 I felt bad for Sid. He'd done so much for 5793 05:01:12.240 --> 05:01:14.720 lash in me, bringing us in, putting us up in 5794 05:01:14.759 --> 05:01:17.000 his own apartment, giving me that first pair of boots, 5795 05:01:17.040 --> 05:01:19.720 even looking out for our incremental pay raises. I'll always 5796 05:01:19.759 --> 05:01:21.479 owe a debt of gratitude to the Big Man for 5797 05:01:21.599 --> 05:01:25.240 our injection into the mainstream. However, by the time that 5798 05:01:25.319 --> 05:01:29.880 confrontation happened, I can say Sid didn't seem to be 5799 05:01:29.959 --> 05:01:32.520 in a good place. Yes, I don't know what he 5800 05:01:32.599 --> 05:01:35.560 was going through. Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, I don't 5801 05:01:35.560 --> 05:01:37.639 know what he was going through, but there was a 5802 05:01:37.680 --> 05:01:41.799 shift that most wouldn't have recognized something was wrong. Sometimes, 5803 05:01:42.119 --> 05:01:44.639 without explanation, he would be a no show at events 5804 05:01:44.680 --> 05:01:47.919 he was advertised for. Even worse were the times he'd arrive, 5805 05:01:48.240 --> 05:01:51.520 disapprove of everything they him booked in, get right back 5806 05:01:51.560 --> 05:01:54.799 in his car and leave. The agents and other guys 5807 05:01:54.840 --> 05:01:56.919 scheduled to work with him were left scrambling to pull 5808 05:01:56.959 --> 05:02:00.159 together something for the fans. And one of lashes, my 5809 05:02:00.279 --> 05:02:02.400 first shows on the road and making Georgia, Sid showed 5810 05:02:02.479 --> 05:02:04.919 up in the back. Everyone was milling around waiting for 5811 05:02:04.959 --> 05:02:07.319 the curtain call, and there was a big commotion. I 5812 05:02:07.439 --> 05:02:09.240 wasn't privy to any of the inner workings back then 5813 05:02:09.319 --> 05:02:12.799 and had no idea what was going on. Sid walked 5814 05:02:12.840 --> 05:02:16.840 past me with a look that could kill. He kicked 5815 05:02:16.840 --> 05:02:20.319 the back door open and was gone, just like that. Yes, 5816 05:02:20.599 --> 05:02:24.279 and he was the headliner that night. I thought, Wow, 5817 05:02:25.040 --> 05:02:27.080 when you get to that level, I guess you get 5818 05:02:27.119 --> 05:02:29.599 to call your own shots. That must be the way 5819 05:02:29.680 --> 05:02:33.720 the business is. But that's not the way it is. Unfortunately, 5820 05:02:34.080 --> 05:02:39.840 although he definitely was big, Sid wasn't that big. Nobody 5821 05:02:40.000 --> 05:02:45.680 is so now once again, and even more so than 5822 05:02:45.720 --> 05:02:48.880 ever before, Boss Sid is a pariah in the pro 5823 05:02:48.959 --> 05:02:51.240 wrestling business. Having done what he did to arn Anderson. 5824 05:02:51.639 --> 05:02:56.240 God, what a fucking he is, such a I mean, 5825 05:02:56.360 --> 05:02:57.799 he's indescribable. Sometimes. 5826 05:02:58.200 --> 05:03:00.439 Maybe that thing Booker noticed that was different about Sid 5827 05:03:00.599 --> 05:03:05.799 was I don't know, getting off his cycle. Hate to 5828 05:03:05.840 --> 05:03:10.360 put words in your mouth, book, but words in your mouth. 5829 05:03:10.439 --> 05:03:10.959 But there it is. 5830 05:03:11.799 --> 05:03:15.240 So now Sid to pariah in the business. Surely, surely, 5831 05:03:16.680 --> 05:03:19.520 having done what he did, no office would book him 5832 05:03:19.599 --> 05:03:25.919 lightly from here, right, it was back to the farm life, 5833 05:03:26.000 --> 05:03:31.119 play some softball, sell some agricultural chemicals. Figure out who 5834 05:03:31.200 --> 05:03:33.560 Sid was if he wasn't a wrestler. For certainly, there's 5835 05:03:33.639 --> 05:03:37.680 no way anyone would touch him now he had gone psycho. 5836 05:03:39.240 --> 05:03:42.279 There's no way attacking arn Anderson with a fucking pair 5837 05:03:42.319 --> 05:03:46.880 of scissors would in fact open the door to a 5838 05:03:46.959 --> 05:03:51.840 whole new character and another WWF run right not one 5839 05:03:51.880 --> 05:03:55.000 that it would eventually lead to the run of his 5840 05:03:55.119 --> 05:03:56.959 career Right. 5841 05:03:59.880 --> 05:04:01.840 A city preceding announcement as a Tea J. 5842 05:04:02.040 --> 05:04:05.799 DeSantis production, its contents is intended for private use only.