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Speaker 1: Everybody aj Benzi here with Well, let's call it fame
Speaker 1: as a bitch and politics is a bitch Because we're
Speaker 1: four or five hours removed from Charlie Kirk getting assassinated,
Speaker 1: and I've been sick to my stomach and man as fuck,
Speaker 1: and I don't feel like talking about Denise Richards or
Speaker 1: Britney Spears going only fans or Mike Tyson taking fentanyl.
Speaker 1: I don't care. I don't care.
Speaker 2: I'll get to that shit tomorrow.
Speaker 1: The only story that's important today is Charlie Kirk being assassinated.
Speaker 1: And that's where we are at and an awful point
Speaker 1: in history, and I gotta tell you, probably the most
Speaker 1: awful point ever. Since this podcast began. I thought I
Speaker 1: I was getting ready for this show. I'd say a
Speaker 1: few things or bring up a few memories about September eleventh,
Speaker 1: you know, like we normally.
Speaker 2: Do every year.
Speaker 1: For the last eight years, it's become tradition, a habit.
Speaker 1: We get sad over nine to eleven, and well, nine
Speaker 1: ten is going to be just as sad as the
Speaker 1: years go by. But then several hours into Wednesday, late morning,
Speaker 1: early afternoon, it became very apparent that this was going
Speaker 1: to be a show about how we all remember September
Speaker 1: tenth and how the skies above arm Utah didn't look
Speaker 1: any different than the crystal clear, cloudless blue skies above.
Speaker 2: New York City on nine to eleven.
Speaker 1: People who were there that day say it was one
Speaker 1: of the most perfect September days in New York, just
Speaker 1: one of those late summer days that oh man, wasn't
Speaker 1: too hot, no clouds in the sky. It just looked wonderful.
Speaker 1: The air was crisp. But as we so violently and
Speaker 1: abruptly learned on that day, it doesn't matter how pretty
Speaker 1: the heavens look whenever they're a vicious, hateful madmen plotting.
Speaker 2: Murder here on earth.
Speaker 1: So now nine ten is another date we have to
Speaker 1: mourn and hope for better things, just as nine to
Speaker 1: eleven has been for the past twenty four years. But
Speaker 1: I couldn't talk hours ago. I was very emotional. I
Speaker 1: don't want to get maudling about it. But then again,
Speaker 1: if this doesn't make you morelan, what does. I wasn't
Speaker 1: alive when President Kennedy was killed, or.
Speaker 2: Was I might have been a little baby either way.
Speaker 1: I don't think I was at sixty two or sixty
Speaker 1: three either way, you know, all I have to go
Speaker 1: by with that assassination.
Speaker 2: Was this a pruder film?
Speaker 1: You know? And that's hard enough to see although it
Speaker 1: was very grainy, what could we see? Actually I was alive.
Speaker 1: I was only a few months old. But you know,
Speaker 1: what could we see? I know it's been cleaned up
Speaker 1: since then. It's a little more, a little more clear
Speaker 1: these days. But the point is that has always been
Speaker 1: the most awful tape that we could see. When it
Speaker 1: comes to a murder. You could throw his brother up there.
Speaker 1: Bobby Kennedy was an awful video to watch as well,
Speaker 1: to see someone get shot and killed.
Speaker 2: This was different. This was different.
Speaker 1: It was so impersonal and yet very personal because there's
Speaker 1: Charlie Kirk under an awning doing his thing which he
Speaker 1: always does around campuses across America, just politely, respectfully telling
Speaker 1: college students to prove me wrong, tell me your side.
Speaker 1: I'll tell you my side. Let's go back and forth,
Speaker 1: let's have a discourse, which is so sorely needed, and
Speaker 1: not nearly what's done enough. On these TV news shows,
Speaker 1: it goes.
Speaker 2: One way, it goes the other way.
Speaker 1: Someone tries to butt in, they get shut down, canceled.
Speaker 1: It doesn't work. But Charlie Kirk he touched so many
Speaker 1: hearts and minds. He went around to universities to have challenging,
Speaker 1: like I said, thoughtful, meaningful conversations about what is very
Speaker 1: important to our country. And he visited college campuses all
Speaker 1: over and you got to get to these kids, I
Speaker 1: say kids at a certain age, because if they weren't
Speaker 1: already turned into progressive liberals, if they weren't already hypnotized indoctrinated,
Speaker 1: you gotta get them then. And he would launch these
Speaker 1: conversations that went headlong at there, trying to disengage our
Speaker 1: disagreements in a very respectful manner. I've seen a million
Speaker 1: of his videos. You can't turn them off. They're so
Speaker 1: great to see because it never ends up in a
Speaker 1: shouting match or a cursing match, or people being horrifyingly
Speaker 1: disrespectful to the other. Charlie he might raise his voice
Speaker 1: to make a point, never talk down to people, overshadowed
Speaker 1: them and made fun of them. Never but he did that.
Speaker 1: He made sure he did that. Here's a kid who
Speaker 1: dropped out of college.
Speaker 2: He dropped at.
Speaker 1: Eighteen years old. He starts turning point eighteen. I was
Speaker 1: going to strip clubs at eighteen, just trying to have fun.
Speaker 1: This guy was a gem, and he knew that if
Speaker 1: you stop talking, if the two sides can't have conversation,
Speaker 1: that's when violence happens. And interrupted today in a place
Speaker 1: where there weren't disagreements happening. In fact, I believe I've
Speaker 1: heard and I'm trying to believe many things I've heard.
Speaker 1: We're going to find out down the road how many
Speaker 1: things are false, what's true? You know, so many things
Speaker 1: happened the first three or four hours, and I'm telling
Speaker 1: my friends and some listeners. I was on the phone
Speaker 1: with Relax. I'm not trying to be first. I want
Speaker 1: to be right. Somebody said he's dead, somebody said he's
Speaker 1: in a hospital. Newsmack said this, CNN said that everybody's
Speaker 1: full of shit. It wasn't until I heard Trump talk
Speaker 1: about him in the past tense that I knew. But
Speaker 1: just me as a man, I knew watching that video
Speaker 1: of him being shot in the neck and completely falling
Speaker 1: to his left while bud blood squirted out of his
Speaker 1: neck like a gusher.
Speaker 2: I'm not stupid. We've seen war movies, we've seen violence
Speaker 2: up close and personal. No one survives a neck shot
Speaker 2: like that. And one of my listener's husbands was a.
Speaker 1: Cop and a swat sniper, and they said, as well,
Speaker 1: he's not gonna make it. I knew that, and I
Speaker 1: disregarded all the uh oh sunn sol SE's in the hospital.
Speaker 1: He sees a critical but stable. Bullshit. You can't take
Speaker 1: a guy like that with all that blood pouring out
Speaker 1: of his head and get him to a truck and
Speaker 1: try to beat the traffic and go to the nearest hospital,
Speaker 1: whatever the hell that was in oram Utah.
Speaker 2: No, it's not gonna make it.
Speaker 1: God lost a pint of blood before he fell to
Speaker 1: the ground, either way, And I'm gonna keep making this
Speaker 1: more and morbid than it has to be. I just
Speaker 1: hope all of you out there are ready for the fight,
Speaker 1: because it just got to a different level between conservatives
Speaker 1: and liberals, between the people who love this country and
Speaker 1: the people who have been trying to tear it apart
Speaker 1: between patriots and fuck faces, and Charlie won't be the
Speaker 1: last to be killed. You can bet your bottom dollar.
Speaker 1: I said weeks and weeks and weeks months ago that
Speaker 1: they're gonna go after Trump again. I said, this is
Speaker 1: not the end. It's gonna get violent, it's gonna get bloody. Well,
Speaker 1: I hate that, I'm right, I said, you know the
Speaker 1: psychotic progressive gunman out there, they're out there, and don't
Speaker 1: be surprised that Trump faced another would be assassin. I
Speaker 1: wasn't thinking Charlie would get killed, but it makes sense
Speaker 1: since he was not only one of the guys we
Speaker 1: were counting on to push the MAGA movement, but more
Speaker 1: than that, just to keep both sides of the aisle
Speaker 1: from killing each other, from just listening to each other
Speaker 1: having a discourse. A thirty one year old young man
Speaker 1: decides that's the way to get ahead. We've got to
Speaker 1: have a discourse. We can't just hate and yell and
Speaker 1: scream and threaten. Got to talk it out. And that's
Speaker 1: what he did for years. But it makes sense since
Speaker 1: he was not only one of the guys we were
Speaker 1: counting on to push the MAGA movement, but the fact
Speaker 1: that he took the time to visit these universities all
Speaker 1: over America and always politely, in a depthly blow up
Speaker 1: students' arguments and have them see that maybe they're not
Speaker 1: making so much sense after all. Maybe seeing eye to
Speaker 1: eye isn't that difficult. Maybe agreeing to disagree is a
Speaker 1: platform we can have. I think I read that Charlie's
Speaker 1: college talks have gone over.
Speaker 2: One hundred million views in the less year or so.
Speaker 2: Oh my god.
Speaker 1: Do you think that's noteworthy? Do you think that guy
Speaker 1: made a difference. Trump doesn't win without the youth vote,
Speaker 1: and the youth vote wouldn't have gotten there without Charlie Kirk.
Speaker 2: It's incredible.
Speaker 1: That was all you need to know.
Speaker 2: How this guy, with his promise that the power of.
Speaker 1: Free speech and people seeing more eye to eye was
Speaker 1: the way to go, and he was undoubtedly going to
Speaker 1: be a major factor. I'm a future president, I said
Speaker 1: early on when the shooting happened. We may have lost
Speaker 1: a future president. We'll find out in the coming years.
Speaker 1: But do you think of Pete Buddhajeen or somebody else
Speaker 1: from a younger bracket could have up against Charlie Kirk?
Speaker 2: No? No, there's no way.
Speaker 1: Too smart, too fast on his feet, two level headed,
Speaker 1: too brilliant, too calm, too persuasive. No, too much of
Speaker 1: a gentleman, too much of a man of God, And
Speaker 1: I got questions for God. Don't get me wrong. I
Speaker 1: don't like the shit that's happened the last few days.
Speaker 1: The fucking killing in Minnesota. This poor girl, Arena is
Speaker 1: a bruce as a Rootska gets killed, knife to death
Speaker 1: on a fucking train. And now Charlie Kirk is assassinated. Now,
Speaker 1: all you people out there who read the Bible every day,
Speaker 1: and I look at my passages that captains do it sends,
Speaker 1: and I like them and I try to follow them.
Speaker 1: But when I see shit like this happening day after
Speaker 1: day after day, you go, what the fuck is going on?
Speaker 1: What is God doing? Oh no, No, there's a plan. There's
Speaker 1: a big plan. When does the plan go into effect?
Speaker 1: Because we're on our fucking knees here, man, Something great
Speaker 1: better happen, better come out of Charlie Kirk being assassinated.
Speaker 1: Something great better happen, better come out of Irena Zaruska
Speaker 1: being murdered on a train. When do we find out
Speaker 1: all he works in mysterious ways.
Speaker 2: I don't want to make this all about.
Speaker 1: God, but if you're not shaking your fist at the
Speaker 1: heavens right now, I think there's something wrong with you.
Speaker 1: All of us want a goddamn next for fucking nation.
Speaker 1: What's going on Charlie Kirk. Could he have been more
Speaker 1: of a man of God? No, but he's taken away,
Speaker 1: So I don't know what the fucking plan is. But
Speaker 1: right now I feel like we're working with no plan
Speaker 1: at all. I'll get back to God at some other point,
Speaker 1: but right now I'm not that happy, not happy at all,
Speaker 1: not convinced that our best interests down here on earth
Speaker 1: are really something I can hang a hat on.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 1: They basically decided to snuff out the love and passion
Speaker 1: and good sense that poured out of Charlie Kirk on
Speaker 1: a daily basis. That smile, his demeanor, his sense of humor,
Speaker 1: the fact that he was friends with so many people
Speaker 1: and checked in on everybody and sent emails and text
Speaker 1: and phone calls to all not just conservative talking heads.
Speaker 1: He was friends with Bill Maher, he sat down with
Speaker 1: Gavin Newsom. Oh everybody knew Charlie because he invited conversation,
Speaker 1: and he wasn't a crazy person who just dissolve into
Speaker 1: yelling and arguments and fights and curse words. Kept his
Speaker 1: head went all around him will lose theirs. And this
Speaker 1: is a growing trend, man. It's sadly a growing trend
Speaker 1: because people like Charlie are facing and have faced violent assaults.
Speaker 1: This guy has had to leave restaurants with his family
Speaker 1: in tow He's been assaulted publicly, He's gotten multiple death threats.
Speaker 1: But just know that there are more people who agreed
Speaker 1: with him than don't.
Speaker 2: Does that matter now? I don't know. I hope it does.
Speaker 1: I hope we carry his name and his light and
Speaker 1: his message for many more years to come.
Speaker 2: But I'm gonna do a little math in my head.
Speaker 1: What was it twenty seventeen sixty people murdered at that
Speaker 1: Fox event in Las Vegas. Steve Scalise and the Republican
Speaker 1: congress people are playing their softball game, he gets shot up,
Speaker 1: BLM the ANTIFA for burns down cities two with Trump's
Speaker 1: two attempts on Trump's life, and now this Catspateel Pam
Speaker 1: Bondie and wherever the fuck Dan Bongino is, Get off
Speaker 1: your ass and put together a fucking task force to
Speaker 1: connect these shooters because an hour ago I saw suspect
Speaker 1: in custody.
Speaker 2: Now I'm saying, oh, he's been released. What the fuck
Speaker 2: is the truth?
Speaker 1: He's I can't do both things, listen to TV and
Speaker 1: do the show. But first they thought they had to
Speaker 1: shoot it like Tim Walls, that wasn't him.
Speaker 2: Then they got the guy. He's in custody, and now
Speaker 2: he's been released after being spoken, what the fuck am I?
Speaker 1: I'll have to wait till the show's over. By the
Speaker 1: time you hear this, she'll know what happened. But I
Speaker 1: have no idea what happened right now. I'm just looking
Speaker 1: at the headlines on Fox and CNN. All of us
Speaker 1: eventually saw the up close video. Maybe some of you
Speaker 1: didn't want to see it. It's gross. You have close
Speaker 1: video of Charlie having that three Z eight caliber bullet
Speaker 1: ripped through his neck, and we all saw the blood spurting.
Speaker 1: Like god, it looked like President Kennedy. It just it just,
Speaker 1: you know, making Kelly said the same thing. I watched
Speaker 1: her today on YouTube and she broke down and cried
Speaker 1: many times, along with Glenn Beck and other people. Victor
Speaker 1: David Hanson, et cetera. But as soon as I saw
Speaker 1: that shot, I said, he's dead. There's no way he
Speaker 1: survives a next shot like this. We saw the blood.
Speaker 1: It was awful, it was sick, it was angering, and
Speaker 1: hopefully for a good reason.
Speaker 2: It's never going to.
Speaker 1: Be impossible not to unsee. I mean, it's going to
Speaker 1: be impossible not to unsee. This will never get this
Speaker 1: out of our heads. But like I said, I I'm
Speaker 1: questioning God. I'm not gonna lie and say I haven't
Speaker 1: been questioning God because of Minnesota. And then you know
Speaker 1: the Ukrainian girl. I can't take this. You know, this
Speaker 1: Ukrainian girl sitting behind his fucking ape on a train,
Speaker 1: who stabs us so many times he hurt his hand.
Speaker 1: I don't want to hear that any of you have
Speaker 1: any type of sympathy for this guy. I can't hear it.
Speaker 1: I don't care about his thinking that the government planted
Speaker 1: a ship in his fucking brain and it's the government
Speaker 1: that made him stab Arena. And as bad as the
Speaker 1: cold blooded murder was, we've now got to hear him
Speaker 1: tell other people I got the white girl. I stabbed
Speaker 1: the white girl. If that's not a hate crime. I
Speaker 1: don't know it is, but yet.
Speaker 2: There's a argument funny start of the aisle. Is it
Speaker 2: a hate crime?
Speaker 1: Is it not a hcre? What constitutes a hate crime?
Speaker 1: Do you have to have a signing a chest that
Speaker 1: says I'm committing a hate crime? I'm I'm just so
Speaker 1: upset with all the murders and killings.
Speaker 2: I don't know what is you know.
Speaker 1: Oh and by the way, there was a school shooting
Speaker 1: in Denver today. Yeah, great day in America, right, So
Speaker 1: sick to my stomach. I'm beyond on disillusionment and angry
Speaker 1: that I honestly don't even want to do a show.
Speaker 1: I didn't want to do a show today, especially when
Speaker 1: I heard When I first heard about the shooting, I
Speaker 1: began to search social media CNN, Fox, MSNBC, News Max,
Speaker 1: so many conflicting reports. I knew I had to sit
Speaker 1: this out until the smoke cleared. But I'll tell you
Speaker 1: right now, news Max beat everybody to the punch.
Speaker 2: Everybody.
Speaker 1: They were the first essay. Donald Trump says Charlie Kirk
Speaker 1: is dead. Megan Kelly and Glenn Beck figured he would be,
Speaker 1: but they didn't have it confirmed. CNN, Fox, MSNBC, didn't
Speaker 1: report it. Just you know, my son is not really
Speaker 1: into politics. Neither was I at seventeen, but as soon
Speaker 1: as this happen he texted me from school, Dad, Charlie
Speaker 1: Kirksman shot. I didn't even know if you knew who
Speaker 1: Charlie Kirk was, or if he ever listened to Charlie Kirk.
Speaker 2: But it's impossible not to. You know why, because he
Speaker 2: reached our youth through Instagram and TikTok and you can
Speaker 2: curse those platforms all you want, but guess what. The
Speaker 2: first person to reach out to me is my boy
Speaker 2: at seventeen.
Speaker 1: That means a hell of a lot. That means what
Speaker 1: Charlie Kirk was doing has gotten into these into the
Speaker 1: heads of our youth, the kids who would to vote
Speaker 1: in the coming years and make a difference and hopefully
Speaker 1: keep America on track. But that's a testament to how
Speaker 1: many young people he reached. Actually, one of the other
Speaker 1: people who reached me first was the artist Sao. Actually, honestly,
Speaker 1: it was the first to say if you heard Charlie
Speaker 1: Kirkman shot, and then I jumped online and started searching.
Speaker 1: But it says a lot when people who don't normally
Speaker 1: or kids who don't normally.
Speaker 2: Spend a lot of time talking to you about politics
Speaker 2: and asking you questions about this that suddenly are shot
Speaker 2: and have to sit up in school and see this
Speaker 2: and hear this and ask their parents what it all means.
Speaker 2: You know, it's a it's a testament to how God.
Speaker 2: I'm sorry, guys, I'm losing my thoughts. Sometimes I'm just
Speaker 2: my hands in so many different fucking directions. This whole
Speaker 2: thing about people who have a pro Trump stance. Not
Speaker 2: to say we're all in line to be shot, but
Speaker 2: those of us who've been very vocal about being pro
Speaker 2: Trump and have been there since he came down that
Speaker 2: escalator at Trump Tower have faced some difficult, bullshitty situations.
Speaker 2: Nothing that's going to have killed, but you know, some
Speaker 2: pepper spray in my face and me the morning that
Speaker 2: Joe Biden was declared the winner, I lost Facebook, Instagram,
Speaker 2: TikTok face, I lost everything.
Speaker 1: They took it all away and me and Andrea we were
Speaker 1: staying at Delano in Las Vegas at that point.
Speaker 2: And I was like, what the fuck is going on?
Speaker 2: And then I found out that over two.
Speaker 1: Hundred thousand people who are on different shows and podcasts
Speaker 1: who've been very pro Trump and actively pro Trump lost
Speaker 1: their social media platforms as well, over.
Speaker 2: Two hundred thousand. I was one of them. Now that's
Speaker 2: not being put in the in the sights of someone's rifle,
Speaker 2: but it certainly is disheartening that that sort of shit
Speaker 2: can happen to you these days, just because you want
Speaker 2: one person to win. And I began this day pissed off,
Speaker 2: like I do many days, I got a temper, different
Speaker 2: things pissed me off, but I began this day pissed off.
Speaker 2: Taking a rock out of school this morning, and.
Speaker 1: He's getting in the passenger side of.
Speaker 2: The car and he goes, Dad, there's a lock on
Speaker 2: your door. I said, what a lock?
Speaker 1: And I look at some fucking idiot hung a combination
Speaker 1: lock and closed it on the handle of my passenger
Speaker 1: side door. I don't know the combination, obviously, so that
Speaker 1: lock can't come off unless I have a saws all,
Speaker 1: hacks law, or god knows, a bolt cutter. So I
Speaker 1: go to the hardware store. I'm looking for a hacksaw,
Speaker 1: and a guy's next to me and I'm telling him
Speaker 1: what I got going on, and he says, that ain't
Speaker 1: gonna work. I mean, you're gonna go through six or
Speaker 1: seven blades. That combination locked steel is tougher than the
Speaker 1: hacks all blade. I'm like, what do I do? He goes,
Speaker 1: try a bolt cutter. I buy a bolt cutter fifty dollars.
Speaker 1: I didn't need to spend money on a thing I'm
Speaker 1: gonna use once. I'm not breaking into parks, cutting through fences,
Speaker 1: and let me just buy it. I took it out
Speaker 1: to the car to see if you go around the lock.
Speaker 1: It wouldn't go around it was. It didn't open big
Speaker 1: enough to go through the lock. So I brought it
Speaker 1: back into the hardware store. I don't know how I
Speaker 1: lost the receipt. It was literally two minutes after I left.
Speaker 1: I may have dropped it, the wind took it.
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 1: I go and I said, I gotta return to this
Speaker 1: lady's I'm sorry, I just bought this. It doesn't work.
Speaker 1: It doesn't open up big enough for this thing.
Speaker 2: I gotta cut and they go, we don't take we
Speaker 2: don't take these back. What do you mean?
Speaker 1: Well, you know people could do a lot with the
Speaker 1: bolt cutter. It could be an illegal thing, and they no, No.
Speaker 1: I left here two and a half minutes ago. I'm sorry,
Speaker 1: I said, ladies, please, just can you look run the
Speaker 1: receipt back? Just I was just here. Find it in
Speaker 1: your system. You'll see what I spent. I bought some
Speaker 1: small chrysanthemums and a bolt cutter. They find it. I said,
Speaker 1: I couldn't have done any damage. In two and a
Speaker 1: half minutes. She agreed, Okay, we'll give it, but we'll
Speaker 1: give you the money back. Now. I'm gonna go to
Speaker 1: a fucking garage tomorrow and talk to a mechanic and say,
Speaker 1: can you you got a sousal? Can somebody cut this
Speaker 1: fucking lock off? My That was to me today, the
Speaker 1: worst thing about today. And I came back from the
Speaker 1: hardware store pissed off.
Speaker 2: I sit down. I'm starting to.
Speaker 1: Watch the Charlie Sheen documentary on Netflix, which is phenomenal
Speaker 1: because I've hung with Charlie many times. I know all
Speaker 1: about his craziness. And then comes word from Sabo and
Speaker 1: from my son that Charlie Kirk's been shot, and I
Speaker 1: switched to regular TV.
Speaker 2: So today was about two Charlie's.
Speaker 1: One Charlie who did a lot of bad, crazy things
Speaker 1: and including I don't know if he gave anybody HIV,
Speaker 1: but he certainly had it. A guy who decided to
Speaker 1: start having sex with men instead of woman, a guy
Speaker 1: that's done so many.
Speaker 2: Drugs and alcohol and all sorts of crazy shit. In fact,
Speaker 2: one time.
Speaker 1: He flew a plane while completely hammered. The pilots let
Speaker 1: him fly the plane for a while because he was Charlie.
Speaker 1: This guy got away with murder because he's an American actor.
Speaker 2: And hit movies.
Speaker 1: And the other Charlie, the more important Charlie spreading the gospel,
Speaker 1: spreading the good word of our movement, gets shot and killed.
Speaker 2: It was a tale of two Charlie's today.
Speaker 1: And he asked me, the wrong guy is dead. Not
Speaker 1: that I want Charlie Sheen dead, but you know what
Speaker 1: I mean. One guy dodge mind feels his whole life.
Speaker 1: One guy did nothing but great things, and one day
Speaker 1: he gets snuffed out. So yeah, I'm shaking my fist
Speaker 1: at God. Unbelievable. Still got the lot hanging on my
Speaker 1: door right now. I'll tape a special Politics as a
Speaker 1: Bitch tomorrow, So I'm not gonna say much more on
Speaker 1: this show.
Speaker 2: Gang.
Speaker 1: I can't, but suffice to say this country is at
Speaker 1: a very dangerous crossroads. It had been there before this,
Speaker 1: and it's even deeper into the thick woods of danger now.
Speaker 2: In fact, if I.
Speaker 1: Really want to be honest right now, as much as
Speaker 1: I love Trump and love the fact that he's in
Speaker 1: the White House, in many many ways, America is broken. Broken.
Speaker 1: I feel like we're a shopping cart that has two
Speaker 1: bad wheels.
Speaker 2: The one you gotta put right back in the in
Speaker 2: that fucking area, and I'll grab the wrong cart because
Speaker 2: two wheels just keep spinning and doing nothing. That's what
Speaker 2: we feel like.
Speaker 1: Not about Trump's policies. I'll take those to my grave
Speaker 1: at being the best of all possible decisions a man
Speaker 1: can make for a country in crisis. Can you imagine
Speaker 1: if this had happened, if Kamala Harris's president? Could you
Speaker 1: imagine what we be going through now? Because I'm sick
Speaker 1: to my stomach watching these fucking people on channels like CNN, MSNBC.
Speaker 2: I can't tell you.
Speaker 1: CNN had some prick on saying, you know, the shot
Speaker 1: may have come from a Trump fan, a Trump voter,
Speaker 1: celebratory shooting off his rifle in a celebratory mood.
Speaker 2: What how did you come to that?
Speaker 1: Oh?
Speaker 2: Krolly.
Speaker 1: Kirk is in the middle of answering a question about
Speaker 1: transgender mass shootings, and suddenly you think that a Trump
Speaker 1: voter wants to shoot off a rifle in a celebratory
Speaker 1: mood and just happened to hit Charlie Kirk's neck. This
Speaker 1: is who scen inputs.
Speaker 2: On the air.
Speaker 1: And then some I don't want to say the word
Speaker 1: starts with the sea, ends with a T, and it's
Speaker 1: not contempt. Some idiot suggested that, well, look, this could
Speaker 1: have come from the hateful speech that Charlie Kirk has
Speaker 1: spread across college campuses. She's never heard him speak, because
Speaker 1: he's never had hateful speech ever. Even the fat fucking
Speaker 1: governor of Illinois, Pritzker prickface, actually said, you know, it's
Speaker 1: not a surprise. Ever since January sixth, there's been violence
Speaker 1: coming from the right. I almost, oh god, oh god,
Speaker 1: I almost went to the bathroom and threw up. Charlie
Speaker 1: Kirk never did things like that. Look at all his
Speaker 1: discussions on campuses, he was he was so great at
Speaker 1: disarming people, disarming people from ridiculous thoughts and finger pointing.
Speaker 1: He was expert at taking a side on an argument
Speaker 1: and just picking your side apart until you had to
Speaker 1: admit defeat or or sulk away from the microphone because
Speaker 1: you would beat, you would beat. He saw it through
Speaker 1: every bullshitter. You couldn't you couldn't couldn't.
Speaker 2: Defeat him in a debate.
Speaker 1: All this great guy ever did was go around universities
Speaker 1: and hold challenging conversations with the youth of our country.
Speaker 1: And he felt that was so important to our country
Speaker 1: because people were able to find their disagreements in a
Speaker 1: respectful manner and solve the disagreements or come to a
Speaker 1: middle ground, because, like you said, when people stop talking,
Speaker 1: that's when violence occurs. That's why I always said Trump
Speaker 1: has to talk to Putin, he has to talk to
Speaker 1: Ping and Kim jan Un. That's what people do in
Speaker 1: positions of power because the other people in possessions of
Speaker 1: power are dangerous. You can't have no conversation. You've got
Speaker 1: to meet them, even though you think they're assholes. You've
Speaker 1: got to meet them. With so many people that that
Speaker 1: don't understand that. And Charlie was no stranger to the
Speaker 1: to this growing trend that the people like him were
Speaker 1: facing violent assaults, death threats, Like I said, forced out
Speaker 1: of restaurants with his family, assaulted publicly, death threats, you
Speaker 1: name it. Did he go home, did he fold up
Speaker 1: his tent? No, he kept at it because he felt
Speaker 1: that there's more people that agree with him than don't.
Speaker 1: And all the talks he's had have been put on
Speaker 1: the internet so people can see those ideas collide and
Speaker 1: see how he handled it. All he wanted to do.
Speaker 1: All he wanted to do was to stop a civil
Speaker 1: war from happening, because when people start to think the
Speaker 1: other side is so evil, then they lose their humanity.
Speaker 1: And that's what happened in Utah. The guy and I
Speaker 1: believe there's more than one person involved. To be honest,
Speaker 1: I think there's more than one person evolved. They lost
Speaker 1: their humanity. And what makes this assassination so especially horrifying
Speaker 1: is that Charlie Kirk was not a guy who got
Speaker 1: in your face or screamed and yelled. He wasn't a firebrand.
Speaker 1: He didn't call you names. He just happened to be
Speaker 1: very smart and prepared, which most people who argue politics
Speaker 1: don't ever do. They come off half cocked. And of
Speaker 1: course he took controversial positions. Some people disagreed with one
Speaker 1: of my friends said something online today, I wanted to
Speaker 1: throw up. Oh I didn't agree with everything he said?
Speaker 1: What the fuck can you disagree with him? Saying he
Speaker 1: never said anything that was controversial. He turned controversial statements
Speaker 1: around on people. Well, not that I agree with everything
Speaker 1: he ever said? What the fuck are you talking about?
Speaker 1: Guy was always ready, eager and positively sure. He could
Speaker 1: hash out differences vigorously without rancor, just being a decent guy.
Speaker 1: His whole persona, The reason why he was appealing was
Speaker 1: the fact that he was always and he was always
Speaker 1: available to debate. He didn't run from discourse, He ran
Speaker 1: toward it, and he ran toward people who were fucking nuts.
Speaker 1: Let's face it, we have to get back to, as
Speaker 1: Charlie Kirk said, we have to get back to being
Speaker 1: able to have a reasonable disagreement where violence is not
Speaker 1: an option. And he spoke those words, and he lived
Speaker 1: and died by those and I wish I were more
Speaker 1: like him. I gotta be honest, because it's hard for
Speaker 1: me to hold an honest debate when I'm across from
Speaker 1: somebody I deem absolutely stupid because I get hot right away.
Speaker 1: My thermostadt is just not set it's just it's set
Speaker 1: too low. I'm a fucking stovepipe. I blow too quickly.
Speaker 2: I know I do. Charlie never did that.
Speaker 1: He always let his opponents be heard, and then he
Speaker 1: just flipped them over with such effortly beautiful facts and
Speaker 1: verbal judo that they'd walk away either agreeing or.
Speaker 2: Oh well, you know, okay. At least I don't hate
Speaker 2: the guy. And you could hear like.
Speaker 1: Somebody would approach a microphone and start saying something about
Speaker 1: trans or this or that, and he just he'd undress them,
Speaker 1: and the whole campus behind this person would cheer Charlie,
Speaker 1: not the person at the microphone. I love people who
Speaker 1: welcome a chance to argue, but hold their head and
Speaker 1: their anger so that that doesn't cloud their argument or
Speaker 1: their decision making. And god knows, there was so many
Speaker 1: assholes that stepped to the mics, and so many stupid
Speaker 1: colleges that have done nothing would hypnotize kids.
Speaker 2: And just.
Speaker 1: Try to make them liberals. How refreshing. You turn on
Speaker 1: TV and I'm sure I'll see you tonight, although I
Speaker 1: don't want to watch too much of it in this
Speaker 1: age of shouting TV heads and stupid social media people
Speaker 1: posting nonsense. Charlie Kirk was cool as the other side
Speaker 1: of the pillow, nothing like the loudmouth jerks we see
Speaker 1: Brian Stelter, Mika Prasinski, Van Jones, even Sean Handley. Charlie
Speaker 1: would go to any campus or auditorium to happily engage
Speaker 1: in lively conversation without resorting to insults or the kind
Speaker 1: of things you want to drop your mic and oh wow,
Speaker 1: he buried them. He was never like that, And sadly
Speaker 1: it's not a coincidence he was killed on a college
Speaker 1: campus because that's where he conducted his debates. Right there,
Speaker 1: that was his that was his warzone. He gave these
Speaker 1: lefty students the exposure they so badly wanted, and he
Speaker 1: peppered them were conservative thoughts and conservative arguments. That's all
Speaker 1: he can do. Not just on campus, of course, he
Speaker 1: went all over the place. His reach was enormous. I
Speaker 1: don't think anybody's had his reach on social media since
Speaker 1: Trump has won back in twenty sixteen, and at eighteen
Speaker 1: years old, this kid starts this turning point, USA crewing
Speaker 1: into such a major force in conservative activism and a
Speaker 1: lifeboat for conservatives like us. Many of us and other
Speaker 1: people on campuses who aren't quite sure where they're at.
Speaker 1: I mean, so many of us thought, okay, we got
Speaker 1: the Magamoma. We got so many young people on our side.
Speaker 1: After Trump steps down, we got Vance, you know, we
Speaker 1: got Rubio, we got Charlie Kirk. Even Ben Shapiro's name
Speaker 1: is thrown in there. We got these guys were smart,
Speaker 1: that can hold an argument that just you can't push
Speaker 1: them over. These guys are great. The Dems have no
Speaker 1: powerful youth like doubt. He got a Buddha jege, aoc
Speaker 1: jasmin fucking ghetto Crockett. Get out of here. You got nothing.
Speaker 1: You got nothing, nobody that can hold an argument. And
Speaker 1: with Charlie Kirk leading the way, we all penciled him
Speaker 1: in as a future president.
Speaker 2: I know I did. And now that's over so in
Speaker 2: a big way.
Speaker 1: Even though he was an assass he wasn't an assassinated president.
Speaker 1: Perhaps he was going to be a future leader, much
Speaker 1: like Robert Kennedy was going to be a future leader
Speaker 1: before he was gunned down, much like jfk Jr. Was
Speaker 1: before he.
Speaker 2: Flew his plane into the ocean.
Speaker 1: And the top of that, we have lost the conservative
Speaker 1: voice of Dennis Pranker, who he's not dead, but the
Speaker 1: guy fell in his home last year has been paralyzed
Speaker 1: from his shoulders down. I don't know if he comes back,
Speaker 1: and what he can say, how he can speak, what
Speaker 1: he can manage. I have no idea. But those are
Speaker 1: two huge voices snuffed out. And when I say voice,
Speaker 1: I mean Charlie's voice and Dennis is. But Charlie's voice
Speaker 1: was always measured, thoughtful, respectful, and that's what infuriated other people.
Speaker 1: His opponents couldn't stand that. You know, when you when
Speaker 1: you stay calm when all others around you are losing
Speaker 1: their patients, you win.
Speaker 2: That's when you know you won.
Speaker 1: Because a lot of people on the left think that
Speaker 1: conservatives have to be dumb. Conservatives are nasty, Conservatives are intolerant,
Speaker 1: Conservatives like violence, bullshit, ridiculous.
Speaker 2: Honestly, I don't know.
Speaker 1: You can't even call this a political killing, which they're
Speaker 1: trying to say now on the news, because Charlie wasn't
Speaker 1: a candidate or a Paul. The only thing he had,
Speaker 1: the only power he had, it was a big power,
Speaker 1: was the power of the spoken word, and he mastered it,
Speaker 1: mastered it at a young age genius. So this attack
Speaker 1: wasn't a political killing. It's an attack on the principle
Speaker 1: of free speech itself. And we expect the killer will
Speaker 1: be found, grabbed, interrogated, jailed, hopefully killed. We expect there'll
Speaker 1: be a level of mental illness. That's what we hear constantly.
Speaker 1: But we also know, and we're gonna hear too. We're
Speaker 1: gonna hear as early as an hour from now that
Speaker 1: there were those on the left who will share this
Speaker 1: crime and consider this prick a hero, like they did
Speaker 1: with Luigi Mangioni, who I never considered a hero. I
Speaker 1: stayed away from that story because I think it's disgusting.
Speaker 2: I hate that he's Italian. You can't kill a man
Speaker 2: like that.
Speaker 1: Don't get me started. But the left, other people make
Speaker 1: this prick a hero. They're gonna make this guy who
Speaker 1: killed Charlie Kirker hero too. They'll see his face, will
Speaker 1: be on the cover of Rolling Stone when they would
Speaker 1: make up and hair. They'll do his makeup and hair
Speaker 1: for him before they It makes me sick. Have we
Speaker 1: glamorized these fucks? You want to any of you out there,
Speaker 1: I want to think that you're allowed or it's reasonable
Speaker 1: to contest free speech by killing someone. If you think
Speaker 1: that's the way things should go, then I'll tell you
Speaker 1: right now, Like I said earlier, America is broken. We're busted.
Speaker 1: The experiment is not working right now. We've got to
Speaker 1: get under the hood and really get the fucking work.
Speaker 1: Me and the boys were texting this morning throughout the
Speaker 1: whole ordeal, Me, Mike Kenny, Godzilla, Tough Tony, and we
Speaker 1: all agreed with what just happened on that train in Charlotte,
Speaker 1: and the Minnesota shooting and now Charlie Kirk's assassination.
Speaker 2: It's time to load your handguns.
Speaker 1: And your rifles and keep them close because I don't
Speaker 1: think the killings stop with political figures. I think it's
Speaker 1: going to go much deeper than that. I mean just yesterday,
Speaker 1: I think a day or two ago, a nice older
Speaker 1: couple living in this section of Queens, which is not
Speaker 1: a violent section of Queens, some stranger asked to use
Speaker 1: their phone because his cell phone banana juice. They let
Speaker 1: him in, They let him in, He killed them and
Speaker 1: set their house out of fire for no fucking reason.
Speaker 2: This is happening everywhere, and like I said.
Speaker 1: Earlier, I'm not putting myself in the same category as
Speaker 1: anybody who's in the crosshairs. But they're definitely after people
Speaker 1: who have been supporting Trump for over ten years, and
Speaker 1: I'm in that category. And the point is if you
Speaker 1: become influential, and they use social media to measure this,
Speaker 1: if you become influential and you convince people not to
Speaker 1: be Democrats, then the Democrats are going to.
Speaker 2: Murder you.
Speaker 1: They're going to set out to make your life difficult,
Speaker 1: even if it means killing you. They murdered Abraham Lincoln,
Speaker 1: almost killed Trump, and Charlie Kirk had the goal to
Speaker 1: engage young people in civil discourse at public universities across America,
Speaker 1: and he convinced many of them to vote Republican and
Speaker 1: as a result, we have a great president in the
Speaker 1: White House. So they murdered him. The lessons very clear,
Speaker 1: and I want you to never forget this, and no
Speaker 1: one's gonna mention this, but me never forget. It was
Speaker 1: Barack Obama who said, you bring a gun to a
Speaker 1: knife fight. Well, now they're bringing guns to unarmed debates.
Speaker 2: What the fuck is going on?
Speaker 1: And here I was thinking that the day started that
Speaker 1: badly because some vagrant slapped a combination lock on my
Speaker 1: car door handle. Turns out I was lucky. It's a
Speaker 1: good day for me. And I'm the kind of hothead,
Speaker 1: as you guys know, that would get struck down by
Speaker 1: someone's bullet because I can't stop talking. I can't stop
Speaker 1: getting angry at people when they fuck up. But Charlie
Speaker 1: Kirk was a man of God and a great soldier
Speaker 1: in the Conservative army. Then we're never gonna be the same.
Speaker 1: It's gonna take years to change this. Unless this assassination,
Speaker 1: this murder, turns everything around and makes Charlie's message and
Speaker 1: the conservative movement's message something that so many more people embrace.
Speaker 1: That's the only good that can come out of this.
Speaker 1: I can't watch too much TV tonight because I can't
Speaker 1: hear negative things said about him, which I'm sure I will.
Speaker 1: I can't see that stuff my eyes. My eyes fill
Speaker 1: up with blood, and then I want to hurt someone,
Speaker 1: and you know how I get. I jump in my
Speaker 1: car and I said, I'm looking for shit.
Speaker 2: So I'm gonna cut this off here and come back
Speaker 2: tomorrow and we can talk about all things Hollywood. But
Speaker 2: for today, if I talked about anything else, I'd just
Speaker 2: be another schmuck on air.
Speaker 1: So God bless Charlie Kirk. We won't soon see another
Speaker 1: young man like him, and I hope America is good
Speaker 1: to his wife and young kids the rest of the way.
Speaker 2: Kid's too young to understand.
Speaker 1: Daddy's dead, and I hope to creep in custody suffers
Speaker 1: like few others have suffered before. Because he didn't just
Speaker 1: kill a good man. He snuffed out a movement. He
Speaker 1: snuffed out a lot of great hope this country was
Speaker 1: counting on. And we can't afford that. I'm aj Benson
Speaker 1: and that was your podcast. Whether it's fame or politics,
Speaker 1: it doesn't matter. It's gonna go both ways. September eleventh,
Speaker 1: twenty twenty five. Unbelievable.
Speaker 2: Talk to eas tomorrow.