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Speaker 2: All right, hour number two here on a Monday, getting
Speaker 2: the week started after a very very eventful weekend. I
Speaker 2: know you guys only tune in to hear how I
Speaker 2: do when it comes to uh wagering on sports, So
Speaker 2: I'll let you know I did have.
Speaker 3: A good weekend.
Speaker 2: I bet a three leg parlay Saturday in college football
Speaker 2: and it and it won.
Speaker 3: I didn't lose.
Speaker 2: And then I did the same thing three leg parlay
Speaker 2: with NFL game yesterday and I won.
Speaker 3: I know.
Speaker 2: It's I mean, and it's one of those It's one
Speaker 2: of those wins where it keeps me humble because I
Speaker 2: do feel, you know, I'm not like I'm proud of myself,
Speaker 2: like I'm feeling if I've accomplished something substantial. But you know,
Speaker 2: I got it right. But one of them ended up
Speaker 2: playing out in a way that I can know that
Speaker 2: I had some potential luck on my side. So what
Speaker 2: I did on Saturday is I did a three leg
Speaker 2: parlay for the noon games. And you know, I've had
Speaker 2: such a rough go at it this year when it
Speaker 2: comes to college football and really the NFL that anything
Speaker 2: I bet, Like I'm just you know, internally thinking, well,
Speaker 2: we'll see, but like I don't have a whole lot
Speaker 2: of confidence. This is what I'm going to guess is
Speaker 2: what happens. But like there's not a whole lot of
Speaker 2: confidence in these picks that I make. And it's not
Speaker 2: because like you know, I don't follow it. It's because
Speaker 2: I just been so bad at it. And usually I
Speaker 2: have some success in the college side to where it
Speaker 2: makes it a little more fun and it's still fun.
Speaker 2: I enjoy it, but like I don't want to go
Speaker 2: through a drought like I went through the last month
Speaker 2: or so. But here's what I did on Saturday. And
Speaker 2: this is what kept me humble because it was luck.
Speaker 2: I mean, it just was. I had Clemson minus twenty
Speaker 2: and a half against wake US. That felt good. That
Speaker 2: was not a sweat because Clemson ended up just dominating
Speaker 2: that game. After the second quarter. I had the over.
Speaker 2: And this isn't the lucky one, but I took the
Speaker 2: over in an Iowa game.
Speaker 3: John, look at you.
Speaker 4: That's a smart especially for this your smart pick.
Speaker 2: And it's one of those games that were I would
Speaker 2: take the over and if I lost, no matter what happens,
Speaker 2: I would look in the mirror and say, yeah, why
Speaker 2: would you bet the over on Iowa? Well, this year
Speaker 2: they're a little different and I felt confident and the
Speaker 2: over was forty one and a half and they had
Speaker 2: forty themselves. Iowa did, so that came through and then
Speaker 2: Georgia Tech money line. They were favorites against North Carolina
Speaker 2: and Georgia Tech was in control and then just completely crumbled.
Speaker 2: I was watching the end of that game before the
Speaker 2: Louisville game started, and Georgia Tech. I mean, I think
Speaker 2: I can't think of the word that was used by
Speaker 2: the announcer on the ACC network because that was the
Speaker 2: game on the network before Louisville Virginia. I think you
Speaker 2: might have said this Georgia Tech team, Brent Key, they
Speaker 2: were imploding, and I'm like, yeah, it's the last leg,
Speaker 2: and sure enough they're gonna screw it, and they gave
Speaker 2: up a late touchdown to tie it up. So technically,
Speaker 2: you know, I had an opportunity in overtime. I'm thinking
Speaker 2: where Georgia Tech could still hold on and win, and
Speaker 2: I don't need him to win by any number. I
Speaker 2: just need him to win, and you know that was possible,
Speaker 2: but hey, it's in Carolina. All momentum is with Carolina
Speaker 2: because they just erased like a ten point deficit quickly
Speaker 2: with just some bone, like they were imploding. Georgia Tech
Speaker 2: was so then less than a minute left, I think
Speaker 2: we're talking like maybe thirty six seconds left, they kick
Speaker 2: it off. It's tied, and I think Brent Key was
Speaker 2: just going to try to, you know, run out the clock,
Speaker 2: goat overtime. Sure enough, he gives it to his running back.
Speaker 2: He takes to the house on the first play. So
Speaker 2: that was a big play by Georgia Tech. And maybe
Speaker 2: I could try to convince myself, well, you knew that
Speaker 2: Mac Brown as a bum, You knew that their defense
Speaker 2: was vulnerable enough to give up a play in that spot,
Speaker 2: but I didn't, I mean all, but that's true, Like
Speaker 2: Mike Brown has been insanely underwhelming in his return to Carolina.
Speaker 2: It's all been about hype and you know, splash as
Speaker 2: far as him being a former championship coach, but he
Speaker 2: ain't done anything, and in fact, he's had some good
Speaker 2: players too. But like, you know, it was luck, you know,
Speaker 2: him running for a touchdown whenever everybody else thought the
Speaker 2: game was going to go to overtime.
Speaker 3: So I'll take it.
Speaker 2: But you know, it's maybe it's not as much luck
Speaker 2: as I'm as I'm saying it it is, but you know,
Speaker 2: it's one of those things you can't bank on happening.
Speaker 4: Maybe it's a balancing act between you and I because
Speaker 4: I did not have a good week. Yeah what was
Speaker 4: I have good weeks, You have bad weeks and vice versa.
Speaker 2: Well that's true because you've actually had you had some
Speaker 2: momentum there for a while and a couple of weeks
Speaker 2: in row and I did not. And then so yesterday
Speaker 2: in the NFL, I had the Chargers minus three, they
Speaker 2: won by seven against the against the Broncos, I took
Speaker 2: Atlanta minus six and a half, they demolished the Panthers.
Speaker 2: And then I had Detroit money line. They won forty
Speaker 2: seven to nine. So that was really a no sweat
Speaker 2: and it was what I need to do at least,
Speaker 2: you know, feel a little better about myself when it
Speaker 2: comes to wagering. And I'm going to continue to do
Speaker 2: it because it's fun. But again, as somebody who just
Speaker 2: does it for fun, and it's not like I'm ever
Speaker 2: putting away money from my winnings to like, you know,
Speaker 2: feed my family. Occasionally I've had one where I'm like,
Speaker 2: all right, I'm taking a trip or I'm doing this
Speaker 2: and that. But like I've always had the mindset if
Speaker 2: I'm just doing this because it enhances the over all
Speaker 2: experience of watching sports. It gives you something to really
Speaker 2: pull for as far as a result, and the money's
Speaker 2: just you know, an added bonus if it's any money
Speaker 2: that you know you can actually do something with. So
Speaker 2: you know, I needed it in a major way, and
Speaker 2: I got it, and I got greeting last night, and
Speaker 2: I thought, you know what, John, I'm thinking like, hey,
Speaker 2: i mean not winning, but I've got some momentum. Let's
Speaker 2: see if I can keep it going. And sure enough,
Speaker 2: I took the Bengals minus four and a half. They
Speaker 2: won by ten. So three wins for me, and you know,
Speaker 2: I'm sure it'll be three months before I went another bet,
Speaker 2: but hey, I'll take I'll take a win when I
Speaker 2: can get it.
Speaker 3: Especially NFL wins are hard to come by for both
Speaker 3: of us.
Speaker 2: Yes, and this season though, like NFL has always been
Speaker 2: hard to bet on, I believe and I think you
Speaker 2: know those who do I mean if if those that
Speaker 2: sell picks that are really kind of in that space,
Speaker 2: but not even like on a marketing level, meaning like
Speaker 2: the people like Jamie Fox pimping out was it bet
Speaker 2: MGM or whatever it is, like Kevin Hart being big
Speaker 2: with DraftKings. Those are guys who they may bet on sports,
Speaker 2: but like that is a marketing strategy from those big
Speaker 2: corporations to try to get people to get in on it.
Speaker 2: They don't even really care about sports, Like they may
Speaker 2: may be a casual thing to them that's like entertainment
Speaker 2: and fun, but like they'll see Kevin Hart doing it,
Speaker 2: so maybe they'll go bet on it. Like, but there's
Speaker 2: other people out there that don't work for sports books directly,
Speaker 2: and they'll you know, they'll sell picks for one hundred
Speaker 2: bucks a week and they're talking about how you know,
Speaker 2: my lock of the week, my six pack, this and that.
Speaker 3: It's here's what you pay.
Speaker 2: Like me, this is really their lifestyle, which is gambling,
Speaker 2: and hey, shout out to them, But like they don't
Speaker 2: win as much as they claim they do, or they
Speaker 2: wouldn't be selling picks. They would just be winning and
Speaker 2: winning and winning and not like be you know, so
Speaker 2: it's I don't think anybody is as good as maybe
Speaker 2: they claim to be. Certainly there are people, many people.
Speaker 2: In fact, maybe everybody betting on the NFL has been
Speaker 2: better than I've been at it this year. But you
Speaker 2: look at the results out there for some of these games,
Speaker 2: and like, I don't know anybody can claim that, yeah,
Speaker 2: they predicted some of these results that we've gotten so
Speaker 2: far this year. I will say the last couple of weekscifically,
Speaker 2: it does seem as if it's starting to kind of
Speaker 2: balance out and you at least have a feel for
Speaker 2: who each team is. But in the NFL, man, you're
Speaker 2: talking about every team having the best players on the planet. Therefore,
Speaker 2: any given moment, like a terrible team beating a really
Speaker 2: good team, it's called an upset. I mean, by definition,
Speaker 2: it is an upset, But like it's not as surprising
Speaker 2: as Vandy beating Alabama, right, Like that's why you don't
Speaker 2: see those kind of spreads in the NFL that you
Speaker 2: see in college. How about this week, we both have
Speaker 2: good weekends. Let's hope that happens. Here's my early tip.
Speaker 2: I'm betting on the Service academies this weekend. Hell yeah,
Speaker 2: Army and Navy are killer.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and how cool is that?
Speaker 2: I mean to see those two service academies ranked at
Speaker 2: the same time, I believe for the first time since
Speaker 2: like nineteen sixty. I mean, that's that's awesome.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Number twenty three Army and number twenty five Navy are
Speaker 2: both ranked in the Apeo Pole for the first time
Speaker 2: since nineteen sixty that's before my parents were born.
Speaker 3: Like, that's wow again.
Speaker 2: I think we could collectively if you don't have a
Speaker 2: dog in the I mean, if I'm sure everybody listening,
Speaker 2: regardless if you're a Louisville fan, of Kentucky fan, an
Speaker 2: Indiana fan, or maybe you're a transplant. I know there's
Speaker 2: many of those out there that live here but their
Speaker 2: home team is Ohio State or Tennessee or something like that.
Speaker 2: We can all agree that we should root for Army
Speaker 2: and Navy and Air Force and all the service academies.
Speaker 2: So to see them both in a spot where they're good,
Speaker 2: I mean, it's it's I think it's it's made it fun.
Speaker 5: You know.
Speaker 2: I won't lie and act like I've watched a whole
Speaker 2: lot of it, but like, yeah, those are teams I
Speaker 2: want to see do well, and I think most people
Speaker 2: you know probably probably agree, at least I hope. So
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Speaker 2: two six five three zero seven ninety. We'll get to
Speaker 2: the AP pole that came out today for college basketball.
Speaker 2: Kentucky and Indiana both ranked Louisville. Not not a big
Speaker 2: surprise there, but I do have some takeaways from our
Speaker 2: first AP pole of the season, the preseason AP pole,
Speaker 2: I should say. And also we have talked about the
Speaker 2: Rick Patino return to Lexington and all wait till the
Speaker 2: five o'clock hour to kind of reset my thoughts on it,
Speaker 2: just because I tried my best to really, you know,
Speaker 2: have a plan as far as which direction I wanted
Speaker 2: to go. I mean, my goal every day is to
Speaker 2: just be honest with you and share my thoughts, and
Speaker 2: you know, you guys can can do.
Speaker 3: What you want with it.
Speaker 2: But I really felt like this one was a little
Speaker 2: bit tricky because I understand why it might have made
Speaker 2: Louisville fans, some of them like extremely sad to see Rick.
Speaker 2: They're in blue and making it clear in one of
Speaker 2: the videos he did that like it's gonna be blue
Speaker 2: over red, and he didn't say that word for word,
Speaker 2: but like that's tough, especially if you've defended Rick Patino
Speaker 2: when the Kentucky fans are making jokes about Katina Pale
Speaker 2: and Karen Seifer and all that kind of stuff, and
Speaker 2: now he's embracing them, and you see it as a
Speaker 2: disrespectful thing to Louisville and their fans, and.
Speaker 3: Like, I get it, it's just for me.
Speaker 2: I always knew Rick felt that way, and he couldn't
Speaker 2: show it because the guy that was coaching there is
Speaker 2: an enemy of his, and that's Caliperi. And if you
Speaker 2: were somebody that didn't get a chance to experience Rick
Speaker 2: in Lexington, I was very young, but I remember it
Speaker 2: so like I knew that I was watching Louisville basketball
Speaker 2: being led by a guy who used to coach Kentucky,
Speaker 2: and I was so young, like I remember knowing that, hey,
Speaker 2: we don't like that guy, we don't like Kentucky, but
Speaker 2: you know I was gonna embrace when he came back
Speaker 2: because I was a little kid, and that's what my
Speaker 2: dad did. Like my dad was like, hell, yeah, this
Speaker 2: is great, We're gonna be good, and he was right.
Speaker 2: But if you've never experienced it, and you just the
Speaker 2: only thing you know about Louisville basketball is Rick Patino
Speaker 2: being our coach, and the only really good memories you
Speaker 2: have or moments you can think of as a fan is.
Speaker 3: With Rick.
Speaker 2: And then you see him there, Like, I get why
Speaker 2: it probably made you sad, so I can't. I found
Speaker 2: myself kind of appreciating my perspective on it, because you know,
Speaker 2: I always knew Rick would choose them over us when
Speaker 2: it came down to it, and you know, for what
Speaker 2: it's worth, I do give him a little bit of
Speaker 2: I mean, I shouldn't say credit, but I believe him,
Speaker 2: like I believe that what he did this weekend had
Speaker 2: nothing to do with Louisville's fans or Kentucky's fans, because
Speaker 2: I don't really think Rick thinks about fans, Like he's
Speaker 2: not really, he's not really. Fans can't relate to him,
Speaker 2: and he can't relate to fans, I think, and this
Speaker 2: is just my opinion knowing what I do know about
Speaker 2: Rick and knowing people. I know that you know know him,
Speaker 2: I guess as good as you can. I just find
Speaker 2: him to be like somebody that's just completely unrelatable in
Speaker 2: a variety of ways. But I'm I'm one thousand percent confident,
Speaker 2: and we'll never be able to know it for sure
Speaker 2: because we can't prove it. He'd certainly never say it
Speaker 2: because he's never one. I mean, he Rick speaks differently,
Speaker 2: like he can say whatever, and we just know, hey,
Speaker 2: it's Rick being Rick. But I believe the one person
Speaker 2: he was thinking about and hoping was watching him on
Speaker 2: the floor Reparena on Saturday or on Friday night was
Speaker 2: John Caliperry, Like, hey, you know I'm here, there were there,
Speaker 2: they're showing me love and I'm now and they're good graces.
Speaker 2: My guy's now leading the program and you're gone, and
Speaker 2: you ruined it, like I you know, people can claim
Speaker 2: that those guys got friendly with each other, You're you're naive.
Speaker 3: Those guys to this day hate each other.
Speaker 2: And always will and maybe when they get older we
Speaker 2: could actually, No, I'm not gonna lie to you. There's
Speaker 2: no scenario we ever get a Jobey and Denny type
Speaker 2: thing with Rick and cow there's no scenario. I don't forget.
Speaker 2: We've got you covered. Coming up this Saturday, it'll be
Speaker 2: Louisville and Miami noon kickoff. We'll get the pregame show
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Speaker 2: Driver dot Com. It's a big game, there's a big
Speaker 2: opportunity to get a big time win and maybe catapulture
Speaker 2: season in the direction that you know you want it
Speaker 2: to be going. You're still gonna have some losses that
Speaker 2: could potentially hurt, especially the one to SMU because it's
Speaker 2: a conference game. However, if you do put together a
Speaker 2: really good performance and it results in you knocking off
Speaker 2: a top ten team, Miami, you can then look at
Speaker 2: the rest of your schedule and feel confident. And maybe
Speaker 2: you do right now. Maybe you still feel confident because
Speaker 2: it's your team. Maybe you saw enough against virgin where
Speaker 2: you think like, hey, we got everything fixed. I'm just
Speaker 2: gonna be honest with you, I don't see it that way,
Speaker 2: but I could be wrong. I just still see a
Speaker 2: team that does have good individual players that I think
Speaker 2: have a lot of talent, and they're showing it. Isaac
Speaker 2: Brown's one of the best freshman running backs in the country,
Speaker 2: if not the best. He's special. I think Tyler Shuck
Speaker 2: when I watch him play. I continue to think, Man,
Speaker 2: this guy. I'm really glad Jeff brom got him in
Speaker 2: the mix because he's even better than I thought he
Speaker 2: would be. Ja Corey Brooks, a really talented player called
Speaker 2: in Lacey. He's got a lot of ability. Jamari Johnson
Speaker 2: caught the game winning touchdown'st me. I think he's got
Speaker 2: a bright future. Defensively, they've been kind of a mess,
Speaker 2: But I still think from a personnel standpoint, I think
Speaker 2: stan Kuan Clark's I mean, I think he's going to
Speaker 2: be great. And then Corey Thornton, the transfer who came
Speaker 2: in from Central Forida. He was phenomenal on Saturday. So
Speaker 2: you know, I've my concerns in frustration about LOUISLL. Football
Speaker 2: has never really been about this year. Like, oh man,
Speaker 2: we went to the portal and we got a bunch
Speaker 2: of duds. I still think the offensive line has a
Speaker 2: lot of work to do, but you can overcome that.
Speaker 2: I just want him to play clean football and not
Speaker 2: make critical mistakes that can cost you a game. And
Speaker 2: you're about to play a team that you could make
Speaker 2: no critical mistakes and play clean and just lose because
Speaker 2: they're that good.
Speaker 3: So that's what we are.
Speaker 2: I'm not saying Louisville can't win. I'm I'm hopeful that
Speaker 2: they they get you know, they give them a game
Speaker 2: and maybe put themselves in a spot to pull off
Speaker 2: the upset. I just can't lie to people and act
Speaker 2: like I'm expecting this team to come out on Saturday
Speaker 2: and be different than they've been all year as far
Speaker 2: as just avoiding critical mistakes and just at times playing
Speaker 2: sloppy football. I guess you could say that Saturday was
Speaker 2: a step in the right direction when it comes to that,
Speaker 2: but I mean I was still watching a team that
Speaker 2: at times I just felt like, Hey.
Speaker 3: What are you doing?
Speaker 2: What are you doing that's avoidable? Or let's go to
Speaker 2: the phone line. Five two, five seven, one seventy nine
Speaker 2: hundred is the number. Let's bring in Adam. Adam, how
Speaker 2: are you.
Speaker 3: Not too bad. Good to hear from you.
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, I see they run down the neighborhood. I
Speaker 5: was like, man, I'm gonna try to call in this
Speaker 5: week and talk to him. If I can't.
Speaker 3: Hell yeah, bully County in the house.
Speaker 5: Man, that's it. Well, man, what do you think about
Speaker 5: the spread? I just said two things. What do you
Speaker 5: think about the spread being so close? Four points? I
Speaker 5: know we're at home, but I mean, give or take
Speaker 5: these past few games at louis I'm not too sold
Speaker 5: on their performance. And then did you hear anything about
Speaker 5: Ron English being pulled out of the box and being
Speaker 5: placed down on the field next to bron because of
Speaker 5: our defense? And then I'll let you answer that, brother,
Speaker 5: Thank you all.
Speaker 3: Thanks Adam, appreciate it. Brother.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'll say when it comes to the spread, you know,
Speaker 2: I think Louisville has has been given. You know, well,
Speaker 2: they were they were touchdown favored against SMU and obviously
Speaker 2: they DIDN'TY didn't win, they lost, And at Notre Dame
Speaker 2: it was you know, I don't I don't remember what
Speaker 2: it went off at. I can actually pull it up
Speaker 2: really quickly here they were dogs there, and I'm just
Speaker 2: assuming that it's it's because they're you know, they're on
Speaker 2: the road in that game, they're at home against Miami,
Speaker 2: And I think those that are setting these lines are
Speaker 2: aware that Louisville, despite being foreign to and really no
Speaker 2: longer looking like a team that people need to be
Speaker 2: worried about when it comes to maybe making the playoff
Speaker 2: because they win the ACC. I mean, I think you
Speaker 2: can still look at what they do and look at
Speaker 2: what Jeff Brom does in games like this against these
Speaker 2: type of teams in these moments and feel pretty good
Speaker 2: about them. Like this is going to sound like I'm
Speaker 2: just completely gushing over Brom whenever I think, honestly, you know,
Speaker 2: at the end of the day, he's the head coach here,
Speaker 2: and I still think he's a great coach, and I think,
Speaker 2: you know, he's gonna be the guy here for a
Speaker 2: long time, and I believe that the louis football will
Speaker 2: have a lot of success under Jeff. But this year
Speaker 2: some of the issues, like I can't necessarily claim that
Speaker 2: he's the guy that is responsible for these these guys
Speaker 2: making silly mistakes like Chris Bell getting nonsense penalties at
Speaker 2: certain times, like but at the end of the day,
Speaker 2: he's the coach, so like it's on him. So you know,
Speaker 2: I don't want to act like I'm not going to
Speaker 2: be critical at all of Jeff. I think I have been.
Speaker 2: I think I think he would even understand if people
Speaker 2: are critical of how the season has gone at times
Speaker 2: this year. But nobody from a big picture perspective that
Speaker 2: watches college football is going to be surprised if they
Speaker 2: win this game, and one of those big reasons is
Speaker 2: because that's what Jeff has done. So I think that's a.
Speaker 3: Factor in the spread.
Speaker 2: Adam also, I would say that Miami, you know, they
Speaker 2: they could easily be coming off of two straight losses.
Speaker 2: Now they didn't. They found ways to win, and I
Speaker 2: think you've got to give teams credit when they do that.
Speaker 2: But you know, Miami was down big and the third
Speaker 2: quarter against Cal came back to win it. The Virginia
Speaker 2: Tech game, had you know, they not reversed that touchdown
Speaker 2: at the end, they lose. So you know, I think
Speaker 2: despite them still being a team, I mean, look, they
Speaker 2: were double digit favorites against Virginia Tech and against Cal
Speaker 2: and they you could make the case they should have
Speaker 2: lost both those games. So I think that's also a
Speaker 2: factor in why you've got a top ten team here
Speaker 2: coming to town that has a Heisman candidate in km
Speaker 2: Ward and Louisville, you know, has kind of lost a
Speaker 2: lot of the momentum they had earlier this year, but
Speaker 2: yet it's still that close of a spread. I am
Speaker 2: curious to see what kind of movement we get though
Speaker 2: throughout the week. I think this is going to move
Speaker 2: a little bit. I don't know which one I think it.
Speaker 2: You know, wouldn't shock me one way or the other.
Speaker 2: If this thing is, you know, right now, it's at four,
Speaker 2: maybe it's at two and a half, maybe it's at
Speaker 2: five and a half. Maybe there'll be people that, you know,
Speaker 2: maybe they'll be big movement on either side. And I
Speaker 2: guess that wouldn't be considered big movement, but I would
Speaker 2: say that's the reason why the spread is what it is.
Speaker 2: And as far as Ron English, they did move him
Speaker 2: from the you know, the press box to the to
Speaker 2: the I guess not the press box, but from upstairs
Speaker 2: to down on the on the field, and communication seemed
Speaker 2: to be better. I mean, I still, I mean, I'll
Speaker 2: be honest with you, I still think at times they
Speaker 2: looked as if the other team was you know, Virginia
Speaker 2: was making big plays, and I can't sit here and
Speaker 2: tell you that. I think it's because what are you
Speaker 2: gonna do? They just lined up and ran it down
Speaker 2: our throat or what are you gonna do? Man, that's
Speaker 2: just Virginia having a guy that can go make a
Speaker 2: play and we didn't have anybody to stop it. Like
Speaker 2: I mean, not no disrespect to Virginia, but I still
Speaker 2: feel like we were a little bit out of sorts defensively,
Speaker 2: but communication clearly better and they made timely plays, which
Speaker 2: was needed in a major way. So you know, I
Speaker 2: I guess it helped a little bit, but how much
Speaker 2: I don't really know. But Ashton Julyie talked after the
Speaker 2: game on Saturday or maybe yeah, I think it was
Speaker 2: after the game Saturday in the press conference, and you know,
Speaker 2: he's somebody I think we can understand, you know, is
Speaker 2: able to speak for the defense given the fact that
Speaker 2: he's a veteran, he's played here a long time and
Speaker 2: this year it's not been anything close to what he
Speaker 2: probably anticipated would be his senior season. But we all
Speaker 2: know he's a guy that's capable of any moment to
Speaker 2: taken over a game because he's that talented and he
Speaker 2: didn't make an impact against Virginia, but he was complimentary
Speaker 2: of well not complimentary, but he did say that one
Speaker 2: of the biggest reasons why the defense you know, was
Speaker 2: improved on Saturday against Virginia was because of communication. I mean,
Speaker 2: they only gave up twenty points. And yes, Virginia did
Speaker 2: have a lot more yard well, Virginia had about forty
Speaker 2: more yards than Louisville did and a lot more first downs,
Speaker 2: but they also had the ball for you know, roughly
Speaker 2: ten minutes longer than Louisville did. All right, quick break,
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Speaker 2: phone lines and welcome in, Dave. Dave, how you doing
Speaker 2: this afternoon?
Speaker 5: Pretty good? I'm want to talk to you about the
Speaker 5: game Saturday. Once again, Tyler Schuck was he was running
Speaker 5: for his life. The guy. I agree with you, he's
Speaker 5: he's better than I thought he'd be. But he just
Speaker 5: skipped so little help from.
Speaker 2: The imagine if he had a consistent clean pocket right exactly.
Speaker 5: And another thing is Isaac Brown. Why isn't he getting
Speaker 5: the ball more?
Speaker 2: I mean, well did he did on Saturday? And you
Speaker 2: know his numbers were, I mean, he was impressive. He
Speaker 2: was actually named ACC Freshman of the Week, and when
Speaker 2: it comes to how they grade out and evaluate true
Speaker 2: freshman each week in college football, he was a top
Speaker 2: five performer overall. So you know, he had twenty carries
Speaker 2: and one hundred and forty six yards two touchdowns. He
Speaker 2: was sensational. But Jeff did say in the press conference
Speaker 2: today that because of how much they utilized him towards
Speaker 2: the end of the game. He was you know, I
Speaker 2: don't know he was banged up, he was you know,
Speaker 2: he was beat up essentially because he got beat up.
Speaker 2: He's an eighteen year old true freshman out there. So
Speaker 2: I think what it comes down to is they now know, hey,
Speaker 2: we've got to utilize this guy more because he's special.
Speaker 2: I mean, he averaged seven point three yards per carry.
Speaker 2: But I do think they're trying to not overdo it
Speaker 2: to where they don't have him laid in games and
Speaker 2: where they don't have him later in the year because
Speaker 2: he's I mean, rarely do you need to depend on
Speaker 2: a true freshman this much, but this guy's that good.
Speaker 2: And you know, I thought Saturday was a good step
Speaker 2: in the right direction as far as making sure he
Speaker 2: gets the bulk of the carries. He had twenty carries,
Speaker 2: whereas you know, Donald Cheney had won and Duke Watson
Speaker 2: had seven. So I think they're still trying to balance
Speaker 2: it with him being an eighteen year old freshman. But
Speaker 2: I know, selfishly, as a Louisville fan, if they give
Speaker 2: him the ball every time, I'm not going to complain.
Speaker 5: Yeah, well, you know, and other freshman Duke Watson. He's
Speaker 5: pretty good too.
Speaker 3: Yep, futures right at that position.
Speaker 5: I'd say, yeah, well, you know, I agree with what
Speaker 5: you said after the game Saturday mat poor coaching. I
Speaker 5: mean that some of the stuff that Jeff Brohm does.
Speaker 5: You know, the defense did play a little bit better,
Speaker 5: but gosh, some of the penalties, it just it blows
Speaker 5: my mind. It seemed to me like they're a little
Speaker 5: bit undisciplined.
Speaker 2: Yeah, they're sloppy, I mean, discipline sloppy. I mean, I
Speaker 2: think we're kind of saying the same thing here with
Speaker 2: different words. But and it's just, and it's not to
Speaker 2: say that they can't fix it. It's just I think
Speaker 2: when you've done it this long, it's hard to just
Speaker 2: snap your fingers and no longer have those mistakes. And
Speaker 2: you know, that's one thing I just did. It's look,
Speaker 2: this happens coaches who have way better resumes than Brahm,
Speaker 2: that have done way moral have a team that just
Speaker 2: for some reason, they just aren't as as well put together,
Speaker 2: they're not as sharp. And you know, I think that's
Speaker 2: happened here. I can't you know, I just didn't expect
Speaker 2: us to be here. Halfway through, and when we discuss
Speaker 2: the losses, it's not because we're like, wow, we just
Speaker 2: played a really good team, or we you know, somebody
Speaker 2: got hurt. It's I think they're four and two right
Speaker 2: now because they've been sloppy. I mean, not to say
Speaker 2: that the other teams don't deserve some credit as some
Speaker 2: U came in here and gave it to us, But yeah,
Speaker 2: I just didn't think we'd be mid season, Dave, and
Speaker 2: feel as if one of the biggest weaknesses would be
Speaker 2: that this team just hurts themselves so much.
Speaker 5: Yeah who man, who? I agree? Okay, thank you, thanks Dave.
Speaker 3: I appreciate the call.
Speaker 2: Yeah, And you know, I I'm trying not to make
Speaker 2: it awkward or you know, sound like I'm toeing a
Speaker 2: line because I just again, I know how, I know
Speaker 2: how we are as fans this day and age, and
Speaker 2: it's not just like Louisville fans. It's just it's just fans,
Speaker 2: and you know, the toxicity that you get from social
Speaker 2: media and whatnot. But like me claiming that Louisville should
Speaker 2: be a better disciplined team and more sharp to say,
Speaker 2: you know, first of all, I think we all agree
Speaker 2: with that, but for me to say that that that
Speaker 2: the Jeff Brahms the coach and he needs to fix
Speaker 2: that and that's on him. I don't think anybody, you know,
Speaker 2: they really think about it, would say that that's like
Speaker 2: wrong or that I'm like picking on him. But I
Speaker 2: know that it'll turn into like, wow, he's really been
Speaker 2: railing on Brahm and like no, like I mean again,
Speaker 2: I want to be past the point of where we
Speaker 2: can just criticize coaches and it be because that's what
Speaker 2: you do, right. It's not personal. It doesn't mean we
Speaker 2: want a new coach. It doesn't mean you're calling for
Speaker 2: anybody's head. And I think most people do realize that,
Speaker 2: but I don't know. I guess for me, it's just
Speaker 2: a me thing, like I need to be a little
Speaker 2: more comfortable on my end as far as just knowing, like, yeah,
Speaker 2: we can point out some issues and understand that it
Speaker 2: does in fact fall on the head coach because at
Speaker 2: the end of the day, everything falls on the head coach.
Speaker 2: Before being honest, but you know, it doesn't mean that
Speaker 2: I feel less confident about him being the guy here.
Speaker 2: And you know, who knows, maybe they do, you know,
Speaker 2: at times and seasons rather it be football, basketball, really
Speaker 2: any sport, there can be moments where you you really
Speaker 2: just kind of come together and you get on a
Speaker 2: roll and it hadn't happened yet, but maybe it happens
Speaker 2: against Miami. Who knows, Maybe it happens the next game
Speaker 2: or the game after that. I don't know, But I
Speaker 2: still try to find, you know, positivity and optimism knowing that,
Speaker 2: like from a personnel standpoint, I really like a lot
Speaker 2: of these players, but it also works. That also makes
Speaker 2: it almost more maddening and frustrating to know that, yeah,
Speaker 2: you're in this spot. But man, let's hope we're not
Speaker 2: wasting away a really good quarterback season from Tyler Shuck.
Speaker 2: Let's hope that Louisville can have a lot of momentum
Speaker 2: or at least some momentum when this season ends, so
Speaker 2: you can make sure and keep some of these guys around.
Speaker 2: And that's not I mean, I think it used to
Speaker 2: when you would talk about a kid or anybody like
Speaker 2: transferring years ago, it would almost be unfair to the
Speaker 2: kid because it was rare and you would just like,
Speaker 2: it's almost like calling the kid a quitter, right like
Speaker 2: it would.
Speaker 3: It would almost be somewhat of a of a of
Speaker 3: a of a shot.
Speaker 2: At a player's case character. I mean that sounds a
Speaker 2: little dramatic, but I think you guys know what I mean.
Speaker 2: Like if a guy wouldn't get in a lot of
Speaker 2: playing time and you could tell that he probably expected
Speaker 2: to have more playing time and as a sophomore, he's
Speaker 2: still not a key piece to the team, like we
Speaker 2: would all say, yeah, I guy's probably gonna transfer, and
Speaker 2: you kind of, you know, at least I would feel bad, like,
Speaker 2: you know, saying that maybe he's happy here, maybe he's
Speaker 2: going to break through. Well, now you can have guys
Speaker 2: that are happy and in great spots, that are playing
Speaker 2: a lot, and you just have to know that at
Speaker 2: any moment they could transfer. So it's not like I'm
Speaker 2: saying Isaac Brown, you know, or any of the any
Speaker 2: of the young talent like Jamar Johnson he's special too,
Speaker 2: he's a young guy. I mean, Duke Watson, he's really talented.
Speaker 2: He's also a true freshman out there at running back.
Speaker 2: So it's just a new world now where I do
Speaker 2: find myself At times when you lose momentum as a program,
Speaker 2: and you you know, you suffer a loss. You know
Speaker 2: that other schools are going to think, like, hey, we
Speaker 2: should probably get in the ear of somebody who knows
Speaker 2: Isaac Brown because we could probably give him more money
Speaker 2: than Louisville will give him, and he would play for
Speaker 2: a bigger program if it's you know, one of the
Speaker 2: big dogs out there. I mean, again, just saying it
Speaker 2: out loud, I feel gross, like I'm saying, this kid's
Speaker 2: just gonna up and lead, but like nobody can be
Speaker 2: surprised if that happens, because look, Louisville could win out
Speaker 2: and lose players in the portal because that's where we
Speaker 2: are in college athletics. So you know, again, I know
Speaker 2: Louisville has the personnel to where they should be able
Speaker 2: to go out there and compete against some really good teams.
Speaker 2: And they've done that this year against against Notre Dame,
Speaker 2: even against SMU. I mean, still should have beat them,
Speaker 2: but you didn't. You know, now you live with it,
Speaker 2: but you know, it also makes me even more frustrated
Speaker 2: knowing like, hey, if we end up going seven and
Speaker 2: five or something this year, I'm gonna probably feel like
Speaker 2: that was insanely underwhelming because I feel like you had
Speaker 2: players that you could have done a lot better than that.
Speaker 2: All or let's talk basketball. So the AP pole came
Speaker 2: out earlier today, and I did not expect Louil to
Speaker 2: be ranked. I thought that they would get some votes.
Speaker 3: They did.
Speaker 2: I think they got four votes. So I'm not sure
Speaker 2: if it's accurate to say that they're like right outside
Speaker 2: the top twenty five, because I think they're one of
Speaker 2: many teams that got votes, and there are many teams
Speaker 2: that are not ranked that got a lot more votes
Speaker 2: than them. But you know, at least there's some level,
Speaker 2: at least there's some people out there that are not
Speaker 2: afraid to say they think Louisville, despite coming off of
Speaker 2: two terrible seasons, they think Pat Kelsey's got a roster
Speaker 2: and he's good enough coach to where this team could actually.
Speaker 3: End up being pretty good.
Speaker 2: And I wouldn't, you know, I've yet to see many
Speaker 2: out there claiming Louisville is going to be terrible and
Speaker 2: they shouldn't be, and if they are, we got problems.
Speaker 2: But you know, I was not someone expecting them to
Speaker 2: be ranked, and I was you know, you never know
Speaker 2: what to really take from what you see on social
Speaker 2: media here and there, but I did kind of get
Speaker 2: the sense that there were some Louisville fans that thought
Speaker 2: the Louisville would be ranked, and I guess it wouldn't
Speaker 2: have been the craziest thing. They did get some votes,
Speaker 2: but you know, I didn't expect them to be ranked
Speaker 2: at all, because here's the thing, Louisville is not on
Speaker 2: anybody's mind when they're filling out a top twenty five
Speaker 2: pole anymore. And by the way, everybody who does this,
Speaker 2: who has a vote, I'm sure some really do take
Speaker 2: it serious. But I'm sure a lot of people probably
Speaker 2: just you know, reference this year's rankings and then kind of,
Speaker 2: you know, piece together with teams they think are going
Speaker 2: to take a big step forward, that kind of stuff.
Speaker 2: But like, Louisville has not been relevant in any way
Speaker 2: in a while, and when they have been relevant as
Speaker 2: far as you know, being talked about when it comes
Speaker 2: to college basketball nationally, it's honestly because it's like, oh wow,
Speaker 2: I guess this is one of the many storylines this year.
Speaker 2: What the hell happened to Louisville? How do they get
Speaker 2: so bad? So you know, we're just not on anybody's mind.
Speaker 2: And I get that, and Louisville's going to have to
Speaker 2: come out win games and then potentially, you know, take
Speaker 2: advantage of these early opportunities against really good teams, and
Speaker 2: that's easier said than done. So I'm not bothered that
Speaker 2: they're not ranked, and I didn't expect them to be,
Speaker 2: but I think some people, some people did. As far
Speaker 2: as the local teams, Kentucky came in at number twenty three,
Speaker 2: which you know, I'll say this and maybe you know,
Speaker 2: Kentucky fans will hear this is me like taking a
Speaker 2: shot at them, and I'm not at all because they
Speaker 2: put together a good roster on paper, just like pet
Speaker 2: Kelsey did. In fact, you know, depending on where you look,
Speaker 2: some people think that their roster as far as the
Speaker 2: transfers they brought in is, you know, is better. And
Speaker 2: that's not a hot take or anything like that. But
Speaker 2: I think Kentucky still gets the brand benefit, they still
Speaker 2: get the bump because despite their embarrassing losses in the tournament,
Speaker 2: they're Kentucky and Calipari clearly it needed to come to
Speaker 2: an end, and he had two embarrassing losses in the
Speaker 2: tournament in what two out of three years, but you know,
Speaker 2: they were relevant. They were good enough to get good
Speaker 2: seeds in those years, so you know they're gonna get
Speaker 2: that brand bump on benefit of the doubt, where Louisville
Speaker 2: you know, wouldn't. So Indiana is at number seventeen. What
Speaker 2: do you think of that, John, Because, like I, I.
Speaker 4: Think that's pretty right on the money. I remember exactly
Speaker 4: what I said back when we were discussing where we
Speaker 4: thought each team would land a few months ago. But
Speaker 4: that's whenever I thought about what Indiana did in the
Speaker 4: transfer portal, the good pieces that they have back, I
Speaker 4: think seventeen is very fair for a preseason ranking.
Speaker 2: I agree, I think that, you know, I find myself
Speaker 2: thinking they should be closer to fourteen and seventeen, But
Speaker 2: I also will remind my you know, I got to
Speaker 2: remind myself same thing about you know, other teams Louisville included.
Speaker 2: There's good pieces they've added, but you know, you haven't
Speaker 2: seen them all play yet together.
Speaker 4: And this is really the season where I think, and
Speaker 4: you've said this before too, this is where we find
Speaker 4: out how good of a coach Mike Wilson really is.
Speaker 2: There's no there's not going to be any kind of
Speaker 2: pivoting or excuses as far as well, they would have
Speaker 2: been good, but this now, if you have like terrible
Speaker 2: injury luck, that's one thing. But he really has done himself.
Speaker 2: I mean he's literally built a roster that on paper
Speaker 2: should be really good, and that's that's a credit to him.
Speaker 2: But he's also put himself in a spot where there's
Speaker 2: no wriggle room not saying he's got to be you know,
Speaker 2: he's not saying he's got to win the Big ten
Speaker 2: or he's got to go to the Elite Aid. But like,
Speaker 2: if they're like bubbleish this year, it'll be a really bad.
Speaker 3: Look for him.
Speaker 2: Problem, Yeah, because they shouldn't be. They have and I
Speaker 2: love their personnel. I've said it since he started loading
Speaker 2: up on the transfer portal. They brought back everybody you
Speaker 2: would want to bring back, including Malik Renew who's a
Speaker 2: really good player, and then every other piece they added.
Speaker 2: I think, you know, you'll have to see how it
Speaker 2: all works together, just like every team's going to But
Speaker 2: there's a lot to like about their roster. Like I
Speaker 2: think it's crazy to have Arkansas head of Indiana. I
Speaker 2: was thinking the same, and I'm not making it like
Speaker 2: a cow thing.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2: I mean again, they did add some good pieces and
Speaker 2: John L. Davis, you know, he was great at FAU
Speaker 2: and the other guys they've added are fine, But like,
Speaker 2: are we supposed to believe that a freshman group that
Speaker 2: is now with him in Arkansas that is nowhere near
Speaker 2: as good as Reed Shepherd and Rob Dillingham and those
Speaker 2: guys Wagner and Bradshaw, Like he's going to need freshman
Speaker 2: to produce because that's what his roster's mostly built off of.
Speaker 2: And I have a hard time seeing those guys being
Speaker 2: remotely as good as the guys he had last year
Speaker 2: a Kentucky. So I thought they were a little bit
Speaker 2: over ranked, a team that it sounds crazy to say
Speaker 2: is over ranked when they're ranked number eight, But I
Speaker 2: think they actually might have one of the best rosters,
Speaker 2: if not the best roster is Baylor, Like I think
Speaker 2: Scott Drew. I mean, he went out and got the
Speaker 2: guard from Duke whose name I'm forgetting that is that
Speaker 2: has been a good player for many years. Edgecombe, the
Speaker 2: kid that is a five star top three player. Like
Speaker 2: I think if you didn't have Cooper Flag this year
Speaker 2: in this class, I think the kid at Baylor Edgecomb
Speaker 2: would be maybe the most talked about freshman that's out there,
Speaker 2: So you know, again they're not It's not like wow,
Speaker 2: you know they're they're disrespected again in the ranked number eight.
Speaker 2: But still I think Baylor's got a chance to be really,
Speaker 2: really good this year. Oh oh, they also brought in
Speaker 2: the big man from Miami who's already been to a
Speaker 2: Final four. Yeah, yeah, I mere Nord. Yes, I mean
Speaker 2: I don't really have any huge, you know, takeaways. Iowa
Speaker 2: State was biasly. I mean, thy being number five, I
Speaker 2: don't know.
Speaker 4: I mean, they could be really good, but that just
Speaker 4: seems weird seeing them that high preseason.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I liked their coach a lot. But they were
Speaker 2: the biggest example that you can use in the last
Speaker 2: two years as far as manipulating analytics, manipulating the Ken Pom,
Speaker 2: manipulating the net to where you'd look at their record
Speaker 2: and you look at them, you'd look at the formulas
Speaker 2: the rankings out there and think, like, damn, they're good,
Speaker 2: and then you would really go look at it and
Speaker 2: do a deep dive and no, like they they really didn't.
Speaker 2: They would go out and play the really bad teams
Speaker 2: beat them by forty get a really good record. I mean,
Speaker 2: the Big twelfth did it last year. They went out
Speaker 2: in the non conference and only one or two of
Speaker 2: their schools were really competitive, like really played a challenging schedule,
Speaker 2: Kansas being one of them, but the others didn't, and
Speaker 2: they beat up on each other and they you know,
Speaker 2: they got the I mean Formuly gave him the benefit
Speaker 2: of the doubt. And again, I maybe they have made
Speaker 2: adjustments and we'll see how these numbers fluctuate once you
Speaker 2: have results wins and losses for teams. But for years
Speaker 2: now it's been the same issue. They don't factor winning enough.
Speaker 2: You can play in a really good league and play
Speaker 2: a really good non conference schedule and have a losing record,
Speaker 2: but if you're competitive, you'll you could be like top twenty.
Speaker 2: Like that's like that alone tells you you got to
Speaker 2: go back and retool that thing because it just doesn't
Speaker 2: make it doesn't make any sense. So Kansas was number one,
Speaker 2: Bama two, Yukon three, Houston four, has mentioned Iowa State, five,
Speaker 2: Gonzaga six, Duke, Baylor, Carolina and Arizona around out the
Speaker 2: top ten. And you know, I get that Kansas got
Speaker 2: a great roster bill selves hell of a coach. But
Speaker 2: I mean it's I'm scared for college basketball collectively knowing
Speaker 2: that Danny Hurley can can can come off of back
Speaker 2: to back titles and actually feel disrespected that, you know,
Speaker 2: because what Danny Hurley's doing at Yukon isn't about once
Speaker 2: in a lifetime players. It's about him as a coach,
Speaker 2: the style they play, and he does have really good players,
Speaker 2: but like somebody takes them out, they should be number one,
Speaker 2: but voters didn't see it that way. All right, quick break,
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Speaker 2: get back to the phone calls coming up here in
Speaker 2: the five o'clock hour. But one of the questions that
Speaker 2: came in on the Ellen and Federal Credit Union text
Speaker 2: line is that, and it's a question.
Speaker 3: That's a good question.
Speaker 2: I don't have the answer to it, and I really
Speaker 2: wouldn't be that surprised, But again, I'm just gonna be
Speaker 2: honest with you and tell you I don't have a clue.
Speaker 2: The question was, is this the most consecutive years that
Speaker 2: Louisville basketball has gone without being ranked in the preseason poll.
Speaker 2: And you know, without knowing for sure, my guess and
Speaker 2: I feel like I'm right, but I could be wrong.
Speaker 3: I'm wrong a lot.
Speaker 2: That the last time they were ranked was was the
Speaker 2: year going into the COVID season, like when they were
Speaker 2: preseason like top five with Wara coming back in Max's
Speaker 2: second year, and you know, they were number one in
Speaker 2: the country for a few weeks there. So after that,
Speaker 2: I don't think they were ranked in the preseason, and
Speaker 2: I know they ended up I think being ranked at
Speaker 2: some point after that, and they haven't been.
Speaker 3: I mean, yeah, So my guess would.
Speaker 2: Be that this is the longest streak, but I don't know,
Speaker 2: maybe there were some times during Denny's run to where well,
Speaker 2: it's probably not the longest in history, but it's probably
Speaker 2: the longest in a long I would guess that it's
Speaker 2: the longest in quite some time. I mean even in
Speaker 2: the nineties, you know, Denny occasionally in fact, early nineties,
Speaker 2: Denny had a few teams that were really good. I
Speaker 2: mean the team that I fell in love with, and
Speaker 2: you know, I still will probably tell you it's my
Speaker 2: favorite team just because you know, when you're watching as
Speaker 2: a young kid, like I love those guys. I was
Speaker 2: sad when they lost, but like you know, it's different
Speaker 2: when you're a little kid and you're you know, eight, nine,
Speaker 2: ten years old. But that ninety seventeen with Dwan Weed,
Speaker 2: I mean, they were ranked for a good chunk of
Speaker 2: that season, and I'm sure they were ranked preseason. But
Speaker 2: you know, maybe that's a question for Kelly Dickey. Maybe
Speaker 2: I'll ask him if he couldell it's because I'm sure
Speaker 2: he if anybody would have that information, he would have it.
Speaker 2: Kentucky's ranking at number twenty three in the preseason eight
Speaker 2: people is their lowest preseason ranking since since the I
Speaker 2: guess the Billy Gillespie era, right, I mean would have
Speaker 2: to be.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Rick Bozice put it out earlier that.
Speaker 2: This Kentucky team is Maybe it was somebody else, I'm sorry,
Speaker 2: it's it was Eric Crawford who put out in his
Speaker 2: article just kind of breaking down the eight peopole and
Speaker 2: the local teams that are involved that are that are ranked,
Speaker 2: Kentucky and Indiana being both of them, that it's their
Speaker 2: lowest ranking since two thousand and eight, which of course
Speaker 2: was when Billy Gillespie was, uh was the coach there.
Speaker 2: So yeah, I mean, I don't you know, I don't
Speaker 2: look at this as a an opportunity as a Louisville
Speaker 2: fan to tell Kentucky that, hey, you know, you guys
Speaker 2: have fallen way down and you know you're gonna miss
Speaker 2: Cal because maybe you won't. I mean, maybe you won't,
Speaker 2: but you know, Pope is somebody that has a lot
Speaker 2: of It seems like a lot of the college basketball
Speaker 2: world respects Pope, and I think they respect Pat Kelsey too,
Speaker 2: But we don't have coaches that are that are gonna
Speaker 2: be worthy of getting the benefit of the doubt like
Speaker 2: we once did.
Speaker 3: I mean for Louisville.
Speaker 2: It's been a while, but even Mack, like when Mac
Speaker 2: got to Louisville and then his second year, they were
Speaker 2: that good. At that point, people were saying, yeah, you know,
Speaker 2: this was a no brainer, like you could see this coming.
Speaker 2: And then of course it all fell apart pretty quickly
Speaker 2: whenever a global pandemic hit. But you know, since then,
Speaker 2: it's been, you know, really a mess, and you know,
Speaker 2: you got to actually go out and get results. And
Speaker 2: even though Cal had shown pretty consistently that his preseason
Speaker 2: ranking was not justified. He still is somebody that made
Speaker 2: a lot of final fours and won a national championship.
Speaker 2: And you know what happens when you have that on
Speaker 2: your resume, You do get the benefit of the doubt
Speaker 2: over a lot of other teams and coaches when it
Speaker 2: comes to preseason expectations. That's why I mean, if Arkansas
Speaker 2: had the same roster and Eric Musselman coached them, I
Speaker 2: don't think they'd be ranked. And maybe I'm under selling
Speaker 2: Cal's roster at Arkansas, but like I mean, I know
Speaker 2: they brought in John L. Davis and he's he's supposed
Speaker 2: to be really good. But other than that, like you know,
Speaker 2: the other kid they got from from Tennessee that transferred in,
Speaker 2: I do. I mean, he was viewed as a pretty
Speaker 2: good get for them in the portal, but you know
Speaker 2: it wasn't like he was in you know, he was
Speaker 2: he average eleven and seven. I mean that's good, But
Speaker 2: like I think, you know, these preseason rankings when you
Speaker 2: really have nothing to base it off of them, when
Speaker 2: you say it out loud, it makes it even more
Speaker 2: silly that we do these preseason rankings. But we do,
Speaker 2: and I don't think they should get go. You know,
Speaker 2: I don't think they shouldn't do them, but you're really
Speaker 2: just guessing. When you're doing that, you're going to base
Speaker 2: it off of like what you know about a coach,
Speaker 2: what he's proven, what he's done. And you know, Cal's
Speaker 2: not necessarily in a good spot with momentum, but he's
Speaker 2: at least proven he can win a championship and go
Speaker 2: to final fours. And there's not many coaches out there
Speaker 2: that can say that. All right, let's talk about Jefferson
Speaker 2: Animal Hospital. There's not many competitors. In fact, I don't
Speaker 2: think they have any competitors because there's no competition. They
Speaker 2: are the best at what they do in the Kentuckian area,
Speaker 2: and that it's taking care of your pets. I mean,
Speaker 2: they've been around for forty four years, since nineteen eighty.
Speaker 2: They've been open every day with a doctor on site
Speaker 2: in case of an emergency with your pet, not just
Speaker 2: every day every night around the claw because that's you know,
Speaker 2: that's what they do, that's the service they provide. They're
Speaker 2: aware that these things happen, emergencies, scary situations, and you
Speaker 2: may not know where to turn. But I'm telling you
Speaker 2: where to turn. It's Jefferson Animal Hospital, so you can
Speaker 2: give them a call at FABO two nine hundred pets
Speaker 2: or visit Jefferson Vets dot com. Doesn't have to be
Speaker 2: an emergency though. You can stop in or give them
Speaker 2: a call anytime. Maybe schedule a consultation type appointment just
Speaker 2: because you realized, Hey, I think my pet's healthy, but
Speaker 2: he's getting older or she's getting older, and I figured
Speaker 2: I would, you know, get him checked out, have somebody
Speaker 2: take a look at him, just to make sure there's
Speaker 2: not something that needs to be done. Because you know,
Speaker 2: you love your pet. It's a family member, so you
Speaker 2: should treat their health just like you treat you know,
Speaker 2: your health. And Jefferson in the hospital looking nep. You
Speaker 2: do that again, BABO two nine hundred pets. Jefferson Vets
Speaker 2: dot com is the website, all right, We got to
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