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Speaker 6: Nevertheless, perhaps I will regale you with a few impressions,

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Speaker 7: Why did you take so long? Well, a lot of.

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changing images of man. Look at that the full on

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hard copy this goes for around one thousand or two

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thousand dollars on Jeff Bezos's website. I don't think that

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elite white papers. Joseph Campbell also was involved in this TESXXT.

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remote viewing and the Stargate project. So what do we

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about the changing images of man, both in society and

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man's view of himself. And it's one of the most

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actual physical copies. What are the sections of changing images

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of the man that we will, of course lecture there?

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Speaker 7: This is up there.

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Speaker 7: This is up there with those. The first chapter talks.

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man a gnosticism, americanism, economic man, or homo economicus, as

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man scientific man, man under the microscope, and then we

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that stuff. The evolutionary view of man, guidelines and strategies

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of himself and society, and so that is going to

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guidelines and strategies for transforming mankind and society. And this

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Joseph Campbell. So that's the guiding thinkers and strategies for

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Speaker 7: I mean, all of that is.

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Abraham Maslow. It looks like it's going to be a

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very well collected and collated strategy manual for bringing everybody

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Speaker 6: Is in this chapter? Freemason, the Great Architect, the Dollar Bill.

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This isn't a conspiracy book.

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Speaker 1: This is a.

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Speaker 7: New World Order manual.

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Speaker 6: Openly discussed Freemasonry symbolism, and I shouldn't be surprising given

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the fact that you know, we're talking about Joseph Campbell

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being involved, right, if you've if you've read Joseph Campbell,

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with a Thousand Faces, but other text as will have

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a giant coffee table book that Joseph Campbell did, which

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Speaker 7: Maybe he was a Mason, I don't know, but.

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Speaker 6: So it's not surprising that he would he would be

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utilizing the sort of changing images of man or use

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utilizing this text as a vehicle for freemasonry and its influences.

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again of freemasonry. And I don't usually care about writing

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in books. Almost all of my books are completely marked up. However,

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given that this is a thousand dollars text, I probably

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won't write in it, just because when we're when we're

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Speaker 7: I mean I could probably sell this. I could probably

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sell this for twenty.

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Speaker 6: Thousand dollars now that I autograph it.

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Speaker 7: You know what I'm saying. I'm just joking about it.

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Speaker 6: There's some weird stuff in this book too, which I

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don't I don't know what these little there's like these

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little that's look like little Jim Bob cartoons in the book.

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Speaker 7: I don't know why, like what is.

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Speaker 6: Maybe i'd have to read to get the context, but

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Speaker 7: To pull the bars out of a box.

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Speaker 7: It's gonna be fun to do that.

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Speaker 6: Like I said, we were gonna do a few geopolitical

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Speaker 7: That is today's topic.

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Speaker 1: Al Kada.

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Speaker 6: Y'all know about al Kada's paid.

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Speaker 8: With the musher gashes were on really at Alcada, The

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musher gashes at al Kada. Remember Bush talking about al Kada,

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the Terrish and the musherd Gashes al Kada.

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something out there. Of course, again shout out to our

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buddy Kotel. Cotel has done many videos, many talks dedicated

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too specific topics like the history of Islam. Kotel and

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intelligence and Islam, which is an excellent talk.

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Speaker 7: It's a classic.

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British intelligence in the Middle East. And of course that

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book didn't just focus on British intelligence. It also discussed

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couple of centuries. It discussed the Napoleonic interest in the

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but they were not really ever successful and really the

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Speaker 7: Gold oil reserves. And then, as you guys know.

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very important book. We've lectured through this whole fat thing

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because this one focuses on Britain's role in its alliance

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with you mean, we could just call it Islam Islam,

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Max Blumenthal's book Management of Savagery. Of course, he was

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more controversial. But rather than reading from the left, we'll

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be reading somebody from the quote far right, Carrie Bolton's

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book Islam or Zionism Islam in the West, So that

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text is Paul Williams, and yes that this is the

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same Paul Williams that wrote the Gladio text. Now remember

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Paul Williams is a Catholic lecture and historian a little

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more on the left side. There are Roman Catholics a

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little more on the right side that we've covered who've

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written similar geopolitical analyses. We covered, for example, the Paul

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Speaker 7: In the Cold War. We covered his dismissal of the.

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by some of these radical movements. But of course we

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know that that's not true, and that Gladio is a

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real thing. And we've been touching on Gladio for a

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long time. We've talked about Paul Wlliams's Gladio text. We

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talked about the Daniel Ganter thesis, which looks like his

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geopolitical PhD thesis. So if you guys would hit like

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and share, we're going to get into this somewhat older text.

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And this is relevant because Williams wrote this the year

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after the Big Nine event, and so he was a

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consultant to the FBI right after this at the time

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of this, and so we can think of ourselves getting

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an overview here that is not yet going to go

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too deep into the conspiratorial side of things. So this

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will also relate to ISIS in regard to what we've

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of Savagery, because those also touched on the history of ISIS. Yes,

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I'm well aware that Carrie Bolton was and has had

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a background and a history in a various Satanic groups.

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Speaker 7: What does that have to do with me? Who are

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these people? Where are we getting these weirdos here? Yeah?

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Speaker 6: Just ban these people that are saying this nonsense. So

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the sides of the issue, whether the authors are more

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think that gives us a superior vantage point to look

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at these topics. Likewise, with the character Paul Williams, I

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don't necessarily agree with everything that Paul Williams says. What

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we're gonna be talking about, though, is because he was

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a consultant of the FBI, he was taken seriously in

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terms of his approach to these questions, and when he

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wrote this he was not as well read into the

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more geopolitical conspiratorial topics. For example, in the Gladiotext, he

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seems as the book progresses to be aware of quickly

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the land by the time that he wrote that book

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many many years later.

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Speaker 7: This is early on. This is one year after the

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Speaker 6: So he's not perhaps as aware of everything as he

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becomes later on. In fact, at the end of the Gladiotext,

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he makes a connection between the type of terror that

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Speaker 7: Okay, so don't approach this.

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Speaker 6: Don't come at me like I'm some low tier slow boy.

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to do with all the various theories of what happened

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on the Big Nine event. We're not totally going into

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the Big Nine event today. You can't really do that

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on YouTube. I have talks for my members section and

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over at Rockfin that go deeper into the specifics of

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the Big Nine event. But the reason that Williams was,

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for the FBI, was because at the time of the

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Big Nine event, most Americans, and even to this day,

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most Americans have no idea about Islam. They don't know

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anything about it. I didn't know anything about Islam in

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two thousand and one two thousand and two. I got

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into the more conspiratorial side of things through various documentaries

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of course, from Lord of Voldemort, Jason Burmas, Loose Change

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all that. So I began to look into these topics

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right around the time that Williams wrote his book. So

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this will give us an introduction, though to the history

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of all kinda from a very well written but informative

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introductory approach. So you don't have to start yapping at

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me about conspiracies. I've been involved in and reading Big

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Nine Event conspiracies since two thousand and three. Most of

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the books that you're going to tell me about I've

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read I knew about. I read one of the first

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when it came out.

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Speaker 7: From What's I got, he went kind of crazy, crossing

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the rubicon. I read that entire book.

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Speaker 6: I read Webster Tarpley's entire six hundred and seven hundred

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page book on the Big Nine Event.

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Speaker 7: I'm way beyond all that.

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Speaker 6: So if you're new here, you don't need to show

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Speaker 7: I know Alan Sabrowski, I know. I've heard all of

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his lectures.

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Speaker 6: I know all of that theory of other Middle Eastern

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countries involvements.

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Speaker 7: I have on my shelf up here, Victor O.

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Speaker 6: Strowsky's books, I have Gordon Thomas's books on the Masade.

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You don't need to I know all this stuff. So

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I am the most well known black scholar of.

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could you make me a express?

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Speaker 6: So so anyway, yeah, mods, if you would today, I'm

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sure this hot button topic we're gonna get a lot

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of crazies. Feel free to liberally ban the idiots. Yeah,

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if you would, Yeah, thank you, Yeah, exactly.

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Speaker 7: You ever heard of building seven? Okay?

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Speaker 6: So now, remember Paul Williams has a background as a

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kind of I think he's a Catholic historian and because

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of his interests I guess in history of Western civilization

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he got I guess. He just says he consulted with

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the FBI on what al Qaeda was in the history

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of will Hobby Salafi type movements, and so.

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Speaker 7: He says that.

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Speaker 6: Becaus by talking about Aquinas, and he says that Aquinas

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taught us that clear thinking comes from the ability to

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make distinctions. And in fact, in this nude, remember this

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is written in two thousand and two, this New War

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on Big T distinctions become muddled. And this is very confusing,

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and it would have been nice if you know, Americans

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had really gotten familiar with the history of Islam back

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at this time, But of course that's never going to happen.

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apak net and Yahoo, likud, you know, the neocons, they

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didn't want anybody having a precise, distinct way to categorize

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and understand Islam. And like I said, I went down

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the same path because I didn't know anything about it,

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and my introduction to a lot of this stuff was

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from the conspiratorial side, none of which I've changed. My

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views on that haven't changed. But I think what happens

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Speaker 7: Side of things.

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Speaker 6: I had blind sides for many years to the actual

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history and theology of Islam. And as you guys know,

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if you're familiar with my channel, since about twenty seventeen

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or eighteen, I've done a lot of Islamic debates and

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gotten into Islam. I'm not an Islamic expert expert. I

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don't actually find Islam that interesting, but I did feel

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it relevant to begin to debate Muslims because we are

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seeing the intentional expansion and promotion of Islam in the West.

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I think everybody's seen this without a no denying it now,

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especially what's happening in the Fabian Socialist dominated UK, which

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the Fabian Socialists, as we pointed out, for many years now,

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set one hundred plus years ago that they would import

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Islam into the West by design, and we saw this

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covered in many texts including Quigley, Khlerghi, etc. The Ratija text.

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They've all planned and said that this would be used.

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Speaker 7: It's not that these things jay recently converted, like what

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Speaker 6: It's not that these things that you study are wrong.

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It's just that they're kind of like pieces of the

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puzzle or narrow windows in and you don't really.

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Speaker 7: Get the full picture.

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Speaker 7: The essence of Islam right.

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Speaker 6: And of course, no, I'm not taking shots at Burmas.

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though I might question the Big Nine event and begin

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to think that that was a fake flag event, and

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so forth I might be led into thinking that well,

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oh well, Islam is the choice sort of scapegoat Patsy

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here in this Therefore, perhaps Islam is not that bad

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and that's not the truth.

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Speaker 9: Right.

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Speaker 7: So I had a kind of a blind spot to.

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Speaker 6: This religion because I didn't know much about it, as

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Internet has really made this kind of difficult for Muslims,

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a lot of these debates through especially you know, our

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big debate that we had last year, which was one

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Fit debate right where we were debating the Muslims, and

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many many other big, high profile debates like that, not

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just myself, many others with much bigger debates and bigger

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channels than me. We've seen, I think the absurdity of Islam,

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the two thousands the twenty tens. I think people don't

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of this religion and just how silly right a lot

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of this is, and so they come at it with

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a lot of ignorance, as I did when I was

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awakened to these things. So, for example, when I was

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Hodge Twins.

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Speaker 7: Islam pretty baged, you saying Islam ain't beaged.

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Speaker 6: No, Islam not bathed. So we had to go through

479
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the Talmudic origins of Islam. And to Williams's credit, he

480
00:39:30,519 --> 00:39:33,719
doesn't exactly go into the Talmudic origins of it, but

481
00:39:34,000 --> 00:39:38,280
he notices that Islam is pretty much a judaizing cult. Well,

482
00:39:38,320 --> 00:39:40,400
of course it is, and he hits on some of

483
00:39:40,440 --> 00:39:44,360
the historical details that were even new to me that

484
00:39:44,559 --> 00:39:48,119
backs up that analysis of Islam as a type of

485
00:39:48,320 --> 00:39:53,400
judaizing sect from you know, the sixth and seven eighth centuries,

486
00:39:53,639 --> 00:39:57,199
getting getting its its legging, so to speak, and becoming

487
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a world religion through warfare conquest. Before we get into

488
00:40:02,400 --> 00:40:06,800
the text, though, before we get into the the depth

489
00:40:06,880 --> 00:40:08,599
of this discussion, I do want to do want to

490
00:40:08,599 --> 00:40:10,840
play a little bit of this clip here, which yeah,

491
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and I was kind of a corny AI thing, but

492
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it's actually a pretty good video whoever made this, because

493
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it's going to.

494
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Speaker 7: Point out that, as we said with.

495
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Speaker 6: You know, prior to Islam. Islam didn't invent terror. There

496
00:40:24,159 --> 00:40:30,000
were quite a few terror religions, terror groups, terror cults.

497
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And really what we're gonna notice is that al Qaeda

498
00:40:33,559 --> 00:40:36,920
is really structured as a cult. I didn't even realize this,

499
00:40:37,320 --> 00:40:39,519
you know, I've done a lot of geopolitical research, but

500
00:40:39,840 --> 00:40:42,239
usually the geopolitical stuff is trying to track down the

501
00:40:42,320 --> 00:40:44,440
funding of this group and the arming and the training

502
00:40:44,519 --> 00:40:47,360
of this group. It's not it's not oftentimes going into

503
00:40:48,519 --> 00:40:54,400
the religious side of the bin Laden dynasty, the way

504
00:40:54,480 --> 00:40:57,480
they approached and structured al Qaeda, et cetera, and a

505
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lot of that I didn't know, even having read everything

506
00:41:00,960 --> 00:41:05,199
from James Bamford to you know, Webster Tarpley. You know,

507
00:41:05,400 --> 00:41:07,679
those will go into the figures and the people and

508
00:41:07,760 --> 00:41:11,119
the funding, but not really get into the structure and

509
00:41:11,679 --> 00:41:14,960
how the cult was set up. And I didn't really

510
00:41:15,000 --> 00:41:18,559
even think of it as a cult until I actually

511
00:41:18,639 --> 00:41:22,880
started reading more of the kind of mainline analysis. And

512
00:41:23,119 --> 00:41:25,800
I think we should be familiar with the mainline analysis

513
00:41:25,880 --> 00:41:33,039
so that we don't get off in the weeds with

514
00:41:34,639 --> 00:41:38,239
overly conspiratorial theorizing. Because I'm not saying that there aren't

515
00:41:38,239 --> 00:41:44,840
conspiracies but more often than not. For example, I don't

516
00:41:44,960 --> 00:41:50,119
need a mk ultra mind controlled trigger code Patsy person

517
00:41:50,800 --> 00:41:56,960
when there are a there are millions of poor dregs

518
00:41:57,000 --> 00:42:00,320
of society individuals that could be recruited into doing this

519
00:42:01,239 --> 00:42:07,199
with basic conditioning and threats and rewards of seventy two virgins.

520
00:42:07,840 --> 00:42:11,880
And you're talking about very, very low IQ people who

521
00:42:12,039 --> 00:42:16,639
will believe these things. So what's more likely that there's

522
00:42:16,719 --> 00:42:22,440
giant underground facilities that have trained through extensive doctor you

523
00:42:22,559 --> 00:42:27,039
and Cameron mcaultra mind control implant stuff. Or I have

524
00:42:27,159 --> 00:42:32,039
a million street thug arab dudes that don't have any

525
00:42:32,119 --> 00:42:36,239
prospects in life, and I recruit them into my organization,

526
00:42:36,320 --> 00:42:38,599
give them a little bit of money and training, tell

527
00:42:38,679 --> 00:42:41,480
them that you now have a mission from God, and

528
00:42:41,599 --> 00:42:43,440
by the way, if you don't, we will take out

529
00:42:43,480 --> 00:42:46,639
your family members. Those are pretty strong motivations that don't

530
00:42:46,679 --> 00:42:53,199
require the wild theorizing that much of the conspiracy world

531
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gets into.

532
00:42:53,960 --> 00:42:54,039
Speaker 10: Now.

533
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Speaker 6: I'm not saying Webster Tarpley is legit. I'm just saying

534
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I've read the books.

535
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Speaker 7: Man. You guys got to just.

536
00:43:02,559 --> 00:43:04,719
Speaker 6: It's like talking to children. Man, you guys got to

537
00:43:04,760 --> 00:43:06,760
be a little more mature than this. If I mention

538
00:43:06,920 --> 00:43:09,360
an author, I'm not saying I agree with everything they say.

539
00:43:09,400 --> 00:43:11,800
I'm not even saying that they're good. I'm saying that

540
00:43:11,880 --> 00:43:14,960
we analyze people who are on the CIA side of things,

541
00:43:15,039 --> 00:43:18,280
people that are normies, consultants of the FBI, like Williams.

542
00:43:18,760 --> 00:43:23,239
We'll read the conspiracy text as well. No, I think

543
00:43:23,320 --> 00:43:26,760
Webster Tarply had a lot of interesting insights, but he

544
00:43:27,039 --> 00:43:29,159
apparently I don't know if he went insane or like

545
00:43:29,280 --> 00:43:32,880
he's just I don't know. But that's why we don't

546
00:43:32,880 --> 00:43:35,239
worry about the individuals per se when it comes to

547
00:43:35,360 --> 00:43:39,119
this type of research, because people can be turned in

548
00:43:39,159 --> 00:43:42,880
different directions, people can be paid shills, whatever. We're going

549
00:43:42,960 --> 00:43:45,599
to focus on the information and the data and see

550
00:43:45,599 --> 00:43:49,920
where it takes us. Let's talk about pre Islamic terror

551
00:43:50,000 --> 00:43:52,079
in some cases, and that will kind of set the

552
00:43:52,159 --> 00:43:56,760
stage for terror that we get with the Nazari.

553
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Speaker 7: On Hassana. I forget the Hashamite guy in the Middle

554
00:44:05,079 --> 00:44:07,559
Ages who becomes kind of the father of the hasha

555
00:44:07,679 --> 00:44:10,480
scene or the assassins. So let's check this out. This

556
00:44:10,639 --> 00:44:12,280
is an interesting video.

557
00:44:13,079 --> 00:44:16,480
Speaker 3: Terrorism was not born in the twenty first century, not

558
00:44:16,639 --> 00:44:19,760
even in the twentieth. The history of fear as a

559
00:44:19,800 --> 00:44:24,559
political weapon is as old as civilizations themselves, and it

560
00:44:24,679 --> 00:44:28,840
all begins here in an ancient city where violence was

561
00:44:28,920 --> 00:44:35,280
no longer just a crime, but a message. Jerusalem, year

562
00:44:35,400 --> 00:44:39,039
sixty six after Christ. The Romans ruled the region with

563
00:44:39,159 --> 00:44:43,480
an iron fist, abusive taxes, soldiers on every corner, and

564
00:44:43,599 --> 00:44:47,440
a population divided between those who submitted and those who

565
00:44:47,519 --> 00:44:51,480
were ready to fight. Suddenly, in the crowd, someone falls.

566
00:44:52,000 --> 00:44:55,199
A small curved dagger flashes for a second before disappearing

567
00:44:55,280 --> 00:44:58,800
under a cloak. The killer does not run, he blends

568
00:44:58,840 --> 00:45:02,239
into the throng as fear spreads like a shadow. That

569
00:45:02,480 --> 00:45:06,559
was the hallmark of the Zicari. The Sikari were part

570
00:45:06,599 --> 00:45:09,440
of the Zealot movement, and they believed that the only

571
00:45:09,480 --> 00:45:12,119
way to liberate Judea was through terror.

572
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Speaker 6: Now this is interesting because we know, of course, in

573
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the New Testament we hear about, we read about Simon

574
00:45:18,039 --> 00:45:20,400
the Zelas, so we know that the Zelots were a

575
00:45:20,960 --> 00:45:24,079
faction of the Jews that looked to the Maccabees, to

576
00:45:24,199 --> 00:45:28,320
Judas Maccabeus and the idea of overthrowing the Romans. And

577
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they had been convinced that the Messiah would come as

578
00:45:31,639 --> 00:45:37,599
the Davidic political warrior, conqueror, and of course that's not

579
00:45:37,760 --> 00:45:40,119
what the Messiah came in his first advent to do.

580
00:45:40,280 --> 00:45:44,840
He came as the suffering servant Isaiah fifty three, Isaiah

581
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fifty four, et cetera. Those passages that talk about the

582
00:45:48,000 --> 00:45:53,440
Messiah undergoing this humbling at his first advent and then

583
00:45:53,519 --> 00:45:57,079
of course the ending of his opposition in a more

584
00:45:57,400 --> 00:46:04,639
forceful way at the second Advent. And this idea, though,

585
00:46:04,800 --> 00:46:08,920
of assassins right, is not unique to or nor does

586
00:46:09,000 --> 00:46:12,639
it begin with Arab peoples. There've always been assassinations, There've

587
00:46:12,639 --> 00:46:14,840
always been forms of political terror. You read the Book

588
00:46:14,840 --> 00:46:20,559
of Judges, for example, we read about the assassination hood,

589
00:46:22,039 --> 00:46:30,360
the assassination that goes on there. We read about, yeah,

590
00:46:30,760 --> 00:46:34,239
many other groups that utilize assassination as.

591
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Speaker 7: A form of terror.

592
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Speaker 6: But people don't think about Jews or Israelis or the

593
00:46:39,079 --> 00:46:42,679
history of Israel including terror. And that's of course definitely

594
00:46:42,719 --> 00:46:45,760
the case, even up into the twentieth century with the

595
00:46:45,800 --> 00:46:49,559
Irgun and the Stern Gang and the founding of the

596
00:46:49,719 --> 00:46:54,880
modern governmental intelligence military structure of Israel that comes out

597
00:46:54,920 --> 00:46:57,400
of actually the organized crime.

598
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Speaker 3: They did not attack armies. They did not declare battles.

599
00:47:01,920 --> 00:47:05,679
They killed in public in broad daylight, priests, leaders and

600
00:47:05,800 --> 00:47:09,760
officials who collaborated with Rome. The crime was not the end,

601
00:47:10,000 --> 00:47:13,519
it was the means. What mattered was the spectacle that

602
00:47:13,719 --> 00:47:16,039
everyone knew. No one was safe if they were on

603
00:47:16,119 --> 00:47:20,800
the wrong side. Think about it for a moment. They

604
00:47:20,840 --> 00:47:25,000
were few men, poorly armed, facing the most powerful empire

605
00:47:25,079 --> 00:47:28,719
in the world. How could they challenge Rome. They did

606
00:47:28,800 --> 00:47:33,039
not need to destroy armies, only to generate fear. Fear

607
00:47:33,159 --> 00:47:37,360
destabilizes more than a thousand swords. And that principle would

608
00:47:37,400 --> 00:47:40,480
be repeated again and again in the history of terrorism.

609
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Speaker 6: And you'll get a similar idea with communism and guerrilla warfare,

610
00:47:45,400 --> 00:47:50,480
right you know. Gorilla warfare is a more modern version

611
00:47:50,559 --> 00:47:55,239
of this, where you are struggling against a much larger opponent,

612
00:47:55,920 --> 00:47:59,400
and probably because it's the most effective means of fighting

613
00:47:59,519 --> 00:48:02,400
something like an empire, you would engage in these sort

614
00:48:02,440 --> 00:48:10,320
of secret societies sell type approaches to assassinations and trrr so.

615
00:48:10,440 --> 00:48:15,559
Speaker 3: Exactly centuries later, in the Mountains of Persia, another sect

616
00:48:15,760 --> 00:48:21,119
perfected the art of terror, the Hasshashin, led by Hassani Saba.

617
00:48:21,559 --> 00:48:25,559
They became famous for sending young fanatics to assassinate political.

618
00:48:25,199 --> 00:48:27,039
Speaker 6: And military This is who I was trying to remember,

619
00:48:27,800 --> 00:48:28,440
three leaders.

620
00:48:29,119 --> 00:48:32,519
Speaker 3: What is fascinating is that their attacks were almost theatrical.

621
00:48:33,199 --> 00:48:37,840
They infiltrated castles, camps, or fortified cities and struck in

622
00:48:37,920 --> 00:48:38,719
front of everyone.

623
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Speaker 6: So, yeah, you've probably played Assassin's creed.

624
00:48:42,880 --> 00:48:46,960
Speaker 3: So here you go, without fleeing, without hiding. The impact

625
00:48:47,199 --> 00:48:49,320
was not in the death of a man, but in

626
00:48:49,440 --> 00:48:52,960
the message. If they could reach this far, no one

627
00:48:53,079 --> 00:48:58,119
is safe. The West was so marked by these stories

628
00:48:58,199 --> 00:49:02,239
that the word assassin from them, and although much was

629
00:49:02,360 --> 00:49:06,840
exaggerated by crusaders and European chroniclers, the truth is that

630
00:49:06,960 --> 00:49:11,280
the Hashshashin built a reputation so feared that even great

631
00:49:11,400 --> 00:49:16,519
kings preferred to negotiate rather than risk their daggers. Imagine

632
00:49:16,559 --> 00:49:20,800
the psychological effect an army of thousands paralyzed by the

633
00:49:20,920 --> 00:49:23,840
fear of a handful of men willing to die just

634
00:49:23,960 --> 00:49:28,800
to send a message. But terrorism did not always come

635
00:49:28,880 --> 00:49:33,800
from rebellious groups. History also shows US examples of state terrorism,

636
00:49:34,519 --> 00:49:37,199
and one of the clearest occurred during the French Revolution

637
00:49:38,360 --> 00:49:41,599
in seventeen ninety three. The people had overthrown the monarchy,

638
00:49:42,039 --> 00:49:45,800
proclaimed the republic and dreamed of a new order of freedom,

639
00:49:46,400 --> 00:49:50,920
but the revolutions soon devoured itself. The Committee of Public Safety,

640
00:49:51,480 --> 00:49:56,119
led by Robespierre, established the so called Reign of Terror.

641
00:49:56,920 --> 00:50:00,880
Thousands were executed at the guillotine, and, shocking of all,

642
00:50:01,360 --> 00:50:04,760
it was no longer only nobles and kings, but also

643
00:50:04,920 --> 00:50:06,519
common citizens and revenue.

644
00:50:06,880 --> 00:50:09,280
Speaker 6: So this is of course the Jacobins of the French Revolution.

645
00:50:09,480 --> 00:50:11,920
We've covered this many many times. You get the idea.

646
00:50:12,039 --> 00:50:19,480
So you know, terrorism has a pretty consistent usage throughout history.

647
00:50:19,519 --> 00:50:20,760
We should mention this as well.

648
00:50:20,840 --> 00:50:24,239
Speaker 3: With the tzar Well attack could change history. They called

649
00:50:24,239 --> 00:50:28,480
it propaganda by the deed, the assassination of Tsar Alexander

650
00:50:28,519 --> 00:50:31,639
the Second in eighteen eighty one with a bomb thrown

651
00:50:31,760 --> 00:50:37,440
in Saint Petersburg showed that not even monarchs was safe. Dynamite,

652
00:50:37,840 --> 00:50:41,519
invented only a few decades earlier by Alfred Nobel, became

653
00:50:41,559 --> 00:50:45,960
the weapon of choice. Small, easy to hide and devastating,

654
00:50:46,559 --> 00:50:49,480
a single man could shake an empire. One of the

655
00:50:49,559 --> 00:50:53,440
most infamous examples came in eighteen ninety three, when the

656
00:50:53,519 --> 00:50:58,159
Spanish anarchist Pauli Palas hurled a dynamite bomb at General

657
00:50:58,239 --> 00:51:01,920
Martinez Campos ing a military parade in Barcelona.

658
00:51:03,280 --> 00:51:07,440
Speaker 6: Now, speaking of the anarchists, you'll remember that in the

659
00:51:08,239 --> 00:51:12,480
coverage that we had that Harley an Envy watched was

660
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of the Secret Agent by Joseph Conrad.

661
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Speaker 7: We saw that British literature was.

662
00:51:19,440 --> 00:51:23,920
Speaker 6: Telling us one hundred plus years ago of how things

663
00:51:24,000 --> 00:51:27,559
actually worked. And although some people said they didn't care

664
00:51:27,639 --> 00:51:30,440
for the book, they thought it was boring, Well, I mean,

665
00:51:30,840 --> 00:51:34,280
whatever you think. It was a kind of a dark satire.

666
00:51:34,800 --> 00:51:37,440
But it did talk about fake flag events.

667
00:51:37,519 --> 00:51:37,920
Speaker 7: What do you know.

668
00:51:38,400 --> 00:51:42,440
Speaker 6: So we have people today who still don't know, I'm

669
00:51:42,519 --> 00:51:45,639
going to come out the fake flag is. They think

670
00:51:45,679 --> 00:51:48,800
that this is made up. They think it's conspiracies, and

671
00:51:48,920 --> 00:51:51,519
yet this novel is essentially about that, and it was

672
00:51:51,519 --> 00:51:56,599
written in nineteen o four. So in the novel, of course,

673
00:51:56,639 --> 00:52:03,639
you have the protagonist of Verloc, who is this shop

674
00:52:03,760 --> 00:52:08,239
owner who is kind of a dodgy character, shall we say,

675
00:52:08,760 --> 00:52:12,199
and he's been recruited by a foreign government it's never

676
00:52:12,280 --> 00:52:15,800
exactly made clear who it is, and he runs a

677
00:52:16,199 --> 00:52:21,440
he's sort of a handler informant on a anarchist terror group.

678
00:52:22,239 --> 00:52:25,920
And so even back in nineteen oh four, we had

679
00:52:26,079 --> 00:52:34,320
a British intelligence related novel about the role that terror

680
00:52:34,360 --> 00:52:36,960
could play in fake flag events. Essentially, what's going on

681
00:52:37,199 --> 00:52:38,440
is a fake flag event.

682
00:52:40,159 --> 00:52:41,199
Speaker 7: In the novel. I don't want to.

683
00:52:41,199 --> 00:52:43,559
Speaker 6: Spoil it for you, but if you didn't watch it,

684
00:52:43,639 --> 00:52:46,280
you should watch it. There is an old movie version

685
00:52:46,400 --> 00:52:50,559
of it with Bob Hoskins and I think Rosanna Arquette

686
00:52:50,599 --> 00:52:53,840
and a young Christian Bale playing the slow boy. Yes,

687
00:52:53,920 --> 00:52:58,440
it has a slowboy. In fact, the slow boy is

688
00:52:58,599 --> 00:53:05,440
the patsy to set off the bomb shocker. And then

689
00:53:05,480 --> 00:53:08,199
there's a newer version with Toby Jones that's pretty good

690
00:53:08,280 --> 00:53:12,480
that we watched. It's a little slow, but both of

691
00:53:12,519 --> 00:53:15,079
these versions, if you don't feel like reading the book,

692
00:53:15,159 --> 00:53:16,239
kind of get the point across.

693
00:53:16,400 --> 00:53:18,039
Speaker 7: But nobody watched this.

694
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Speaker 6: Nobody reads books, nobody cares. So everybody wants to be retards.

695
00:53:22,000 --> 00:53:25,599
So I guess we're just going to be retards. Well,

696
00:53:25,639 --> 00:53:26,360
let's get back to this.

697
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Speaker 3: Although the General survived, the attack shocked the public and

698
00:53:30,920 --> 00:53:34,639
demonstrated how a handful of explosives in the right place

699
00:53:35,039 --> 00:53:39,159
could undermine the aura of power and invincibility surrounding governments

700
00:53:39,519 --> 00:53:44,800
and armies. In Paris, cafes and theaters became targets of explosions.

701
00:53:45,440 --> 00:53:49,000
These were not chosen at random. Cafes were the gathering

702
00:53:49,079 --> 00:53:53,559
places of the bourgeoisie, the politicians, and the intellectual class

703
00:53:53,960 --> 00:53:58,679
that anarchists blamed for sustaining an unjust social order. By

704
00:53:58,760 --> 00:54:02,559
striking in such space of leisure and culture, the attackers

705
00:54:02,639 --> 00:54:06,559
sought to demonstrate that privilege and comfort offered no protection

706
00:54:06,719 --> 00:54:11,199
from the violence of revolution, turning everyday venues of entertainment

707
00:54:11,360 --> 00:54:16,320
into symbols of vulnerability. In the United States, in nineteen

708
00:54:16,400 --> 00:54:20,559
oh one, President William McKinley was assassinated by an anarchist.

709
00:54:21,360 --> 00:54:25,320
Suddenly terrorism was no longer a matter of occupied peoples

710
00:54:25,920 --> 00:54:27,639
or sex in distant mountains.

711
00:54:28,440 --> 00:54:34,519
Speaker 6: So, as you can imagine, this comes on the heels

712
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of the recent large scale assassination event. And today in

713
00:54:39,159 --> 00:54:42,199
the news and yesterday were being told that by A

714
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Laura Lumer and others, watch out, Alcata's back with mustard gasses.

715
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So we've got to be worried once again about al

716
00:54:51,599 --> 00:54:55,280
Qaeda and isis You forgot the throwing a curve balle

717
00:54:56,320 --> 00:55:00,440
you forgot about l Kaida and issis They're back. So

718
00:55:01,239 --> 00:55:09,159
let's get into the book after that brief introduction the

719
00:55:09,960 --> 00:55:19,159
Brotherhood of Terror, Williams talks about the the rise of groups.

720
00:55:21,679 --> 00:55:23,519
This is in two thousand and two. There were already

721
00:55:23,639 --> 00:55:31,400
hundreds of groups out there, supposedly that were organic terror

722
00:55:31,519 --> 00:55:35,920
groups running wild. There's Abu Sayif in the Philippines, al

723
00:55:36,000 --> 00:55:40,519
Jihad in Egypt, Hasbalan Lebanon, the Armed Islamic Group in Algeria,

724
00:55:40,639 --> 00:55:46,400
the Islamic Movement in Uzbekistan, the here's what I never

725
00:55:46,440 --> 00:55:53,000
heard of, Rubau Group of Canada, al as osbat Ansar

726
00:55:53,079 --> 00:55:59,280
and Lebanon, Harakut and the Mujahadeen in Pakistan, the Islamic

727
00:55:59,360 --> 00:56:03,719
Group of Egypt, Lebanese Partisan League, the Libyan Islamic Group

728
00:56:04,039 --> 00:56:11,159
Fighting Group, the Salaphus Group for Combat in Algeria, on

729
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and on and.

730
00:56:11,800 --> 00:56:12,159
Speaker 9: On and on.

731
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Speaker 7: So what are we getting at here?

732
00:56:14,960 --> 00:56:20,599
Speaker 6: Endless sects and groups and amorphous things that can morph into.

733
00:56:20,400 --> 00:56:20,880
Speaker 7: The next thing.

734
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Speaker 6: And after the Big nine event, Bush and the regime

735
00:56:28,440 --> 00:56:34,239
declared an amorphous war on terror to eradicate all of

736
00:56:34,360 --> 00:56:39,039
these groups. But the chief group that they singled out

737
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was Osama bin Laden and his network of al Qaeda.

738
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According to Osama bin Laden, the mandate of nineteen ninety

739
00:56:51,320 --> 00:56:56,480
six was the declaration of war against America, the occupying

740
00:56:56,599 --> 00:56:59,719
of the land of the Holy mosques. Quote this has

741
00:56:59,760 --> 00:57:04,159
been supposedly bin Laden. Quote Our Lord, the people of

742
00:57:04,199 --> 00:57:06,800
the Cross have come with their horses and have occupied

743
00:57:07,440 --> 00:57:11,880
the holy places. The Zionist Jews, fiddling as they wish

744
00:57:12,039 --> 00:57:15,599
with al Axa Mosque, the route of ascendants of the

745
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Messenger of Allah. Allah's blessings be upon him, our Lord,

746
00:57:20,360 --> 00:57:24,400
shatter their gathering, divide them, shake the earth under their feet,

747
00:57:24,440 --> 00:57:28,039
and give us control. Our Lord, we take refuge in

748
00:57:28,159 --> 00:57:32,119
you from their deeds, and take us as a shield

749
00:57:32,199 --> 00:57:33,800
between us and them.

750
00:57:34,719 --> 00:57:37,119
Speaker 7: So that's the supposed nineteen ninety.

751
00:57:36,920 --> 00:57:41,239
Speaker 6: Six declaration of war on America and the West.

752
00:57:41,360 --> 00:57:49,840
Speaker 7: The Zionis west by obl and this allowed for a

753
00:57:50,320 --> 00:57:51,800
bifurcation of.

754
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Speaker 6: The world of Islam and the so called Judeo Christian world.

755
00:57:56,400 --> 00:58:01,039
Now I'm not advocating about the judai A Christian world

756
00:58:01,119 --> 00:58:05,079
in the terminology. I've known about that, and critique that

757
00:58:05,440 --> 00:58:10,079
I knew that. Don't bitch at me about like nube stuff. Dude,

758
00:58:10,079 --> 00:58:13,320
I knew about the problem was saying Judeo Christian twenty

759
00:58:13,679 --> 00:58:16,920
five years ago. I know what the Talmud says, we

760
00:58:17,000 --> 00:58:20,440
don't have to go through these steps. So please let's

761
00:58:20,679 --> 00:58:24,840
fast forward up to aware put on your big boy pants.

762
00:58:25,119 --> 00:58:27,039
We don't have to walk through the baby stuff all

763
00:58:27,079 --> 00:58:29,199
over again. Please, don't you have to remind me? I

764
00:58:29,280 --> 00:58:30,199
know what the talman says.

765
00:58:31,239 --> 00:58:33,599
Speaker 7: Did you know that? To tell you don't use the

766
00:58:33,639 --> 00:58:35,880
word judayo Christians? Yes, I knew it twenty years ago.

767
00:58:35,960 --> 00:58:36,400
Shut up.

768
00:58:37,400 --> 00:58:42,079
Speaker 6: My involvement with al Qaeda is that I was obtaining

769
00:58:42,119 --> 00:58:46,559
information for the FBI, and so he worked as a

770
00:58:47,400 --> 00:58:50,639
consultant to some degree. But also, perhaps he seems to say,

771
00:58:50,679 --> 00:58:53,719
as an informant. He says, because I was in the

772
00:58:53,840 --> 00:58:57,079
area of Little Odessa in New York and I was

773
00:58:57,199 --> 00:59:00,840
watching the Ukrainian Russian mafia. He says, Russian mafia, but

774
00:59:00,840 --> 00:59:06,000
it sounds like Little Odessa is the Ukrainian mafia. What's

775
00:59:06,039 --> 00:59:09,360
it called the Vori krazy? I forget that there's a

776
00:59:09,760 --> 00:59:13,920
word for that, because if you watched the excellent movie,

777
00:59:15,119 --> 00:59:17,760
the one Hollywood movie where the Russians aren't the villains

778
00:59:18,440 --> 00:59:25,119
Eastern Promises with Vigo Mortensen, made by David Kronenberg. His

779
00:59:25,360 --> 00:59:30,599
job is as an FSB FSB person to infiltrate infiltrate

780
00:59:30,719 --> 00:59:37,480
the vori krazy I forget the exact word, but so

781
00:59:37,639 --> 00:59:41,599
he says that he worked in this sector of New York,

782
00:59:42,960 --> 00:59:46,039
and he says that a lot of these people were

783
00:59:46,079 --> 00:59:50,599
former KGB that had come here and were engaged in

784
00:59:50,679 --> 00:59:54,800
illicit organized crime work. So they would sell heroin and

785
00:59:54,880 --> 00:59:59,480
they would steal Mercedes and BMW's And this is where

786
00:59:59,639 --> 01:00:02,039
he was focused at this time, working with the FBI.

787
01:00:04,360 --> 01:00:07,880
Speaker 7: Is the vory crazy? What is the FSB?

788
01:00:08,159 --> 01:00:14,840
Speaker 6: Guys man, y'all, y'all got to get with the program. Y'allogists,

789
01:00:14,960 --> 01:00:17,519
y'all are in kindergarten. We're trying to do a fifth

790
01:00:17,559 --> 01:00:19,079
grade lecture, and y'all are in kindergarten.

791
01:00:19,119 --> 01:00:20,400
Speaker 7: Here Turkey.

792
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Speaker 6: He says that was at this time one of the

793
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main pathways that opium was coming into New York from

794
01:00:29,320 --> 01:00:34,119
Poland and Turkey and these This also led him to

795
01:00:34,239 --> 01:00:39,639
researching warehouses in Afghanistan that al Qaeda controlled, and so

796
01:00:39,760 --> 01:00:49,239
al Qaeda Vori v Zakoni. It's it's a weird phrase,

797
01:00:49,679 --> 01:00:53,159
how you said the name of the Ukrainian mafia anyway,

798
01:00:59,599 --> 01:01:02,400
m hm. So that's his interesting background. But this is

799
01:01:02,440 --> 01:01:04,440
where he started realizing that wait, a minute. There's a

800
01:01:04,440 --> 01:01:08,239
connection between the drugs coming into New York in the

801
01:01:08,360 --> 01:01:15,679
late nineties, in the early two thousands from Poland and Turkey,

802
01:01:15,880 --> 01:01:19,239
and this connection to Afghanistan via of course, the poppy

803
01:01:19,320 --> 01:01:24,599
fields and the opium fields of Afghanistan. Yeah, I didn't

804
01:01:24,599 --> 01:01:28,079
really need to see the whole Vigo naked scene where

805
01:01:28,119 --> 01:01:29,840
he's fighting in the bathhouse.

806
01:01:29,960 --> 01:01:33,559
Speaker 7: That part is I didn't expect that either.

807
01:01:33,679 --> 01:01:36,320
Speaker 6: But there's there's an entire naked brawl between like a

808
01:01:36,440 --> 01:01:40,719
fat mafia dude and a naked Vigo in that movie.

809
01:01:40,519 --> 01:01:41,400
Speaker 7: Which you don't expect.

810
01:01:41,480 --> 01:01:45,480
Speaker 6: But he says many of the former KGB officials conducted

811
01:01:45,519 --> 01:01:47,400
all these sales and now lived good lives in the

812
01:01:47,519 --> 01:01:49,760
United States. Several of them settled in Coney Island and

813
01:01:49,800 --> 01:01:53,719
they made millions of dollars stealing and selling high priced

814
01:01:53,800 --> 01:01:58,119
cars like BMW's Me meversites so interesting, and I didn't

815
01:01:58,199 --> 01:02:00,559
I didn't even know that, never heard of that. However,

816
01:02:01,239 --> 01:02:03,559
if you watch the movie Lord of War, that's actually

817
01:02:03,639 --> 01:02:08,119
where Victor Bout is because Nicholas Cage is playing Victor Bout.

818
01:02:08,960 --> 01:02:13,599
Victor Boot, the guy that Alex has had on many

819
01:02:13,679 --> 01:02:17,239
times the book Shadow Masters, the movie Lord of war

820
01:02:17,320 --> 01:02:19,519
is about that anyway. So let's get to a little

821
01:02:19,519 --> 01:02:22,599
bit of a chronology here of an overview of the

822
01:02:22,679 --> 01:02:26,440
events and the life and the life of al Kaeda.

823
01:02:27,719 --> 01:02:30,480
So we go back, of course to nineteen seventy nine,

824
01:02:31,599 --> 01:02:39,639
and this is where we have the freedom fighters. And

825
01:02:40,000 --> 01:02:43,880
these were the freedom fighters that were armed, trained and

826
01:02:44,119 --> 01:02:47,880
funded by the CIA. This is all well known, there

827
01:02:48,000 --> 01:02:51,800
is no question about this. It's very very famous stuff

828
01:02:52,440 --> 01:02:57,519
Operation cyclone. You'll see here the figures with Ronald Reagan

829
01:02:57,599 --> 01:02:58,400
at the White House.

830
01:02:58,519 --> 01:03:02,719
Speaker 7: That's how well known this is. If you think this

831
01:03:02,840 --> 01:03:06,199
is a conspiracy, you're just stupid and ignorant. Now this

832
01:03:06,320 --> 01:03:07,239
is really well known.

833
01:03:07,320 --> 01:03:12,440
Speaker 6: This was the best strategy that Brazinski and Robert Gates

834
01:03:12,719 --> 01:03:16,840
could come up with to fortify the West, supposedly, but

835
01:03:16,920 --> 01:03:21,119
in reality, what they were doing was exhausting the Soviets

836
01:03:21,280 --> 01:03:22,119
in Afghanistan.

837
01:03:22,599 --> 01:03:24,079
Speaker 7: So the idea was, oh, we got to.

838
01:03:24,079 --> 01:03:27,280
Speaker 6: Control Afghanistan because it's the gateway to the Eurasian heartland

839
01:03:27,320 --> 01:03:32,239
according to Brazinski and the Mackinder thesis of geopolitical structure.

840
01:03:34,920 --> 01:03:39,480
But Rashenski was really trying to wear out the Soviets

841
01:03:39,639 --> 01:03:42,440
and he was successful in that, so it worked the

842
01:03:42,519 --> 01:03:47,960
strategy was successful. But out of this force there in

843
01:03:48,079 --> 01:03:52,599
Afghanistan known as the freedom Fighters of the Mujahadeen, there

844
01:03:52,679 --> 01:03:56,320
were many that were trained and armed and would continue

845
01:03:56,440 --> 01:04:01,639
to be a proxy fighting force for the CIA and

846
01:04:02,599 --> 01:04:07,760
British intelligence. And a certain place was called the base

847
01:04:07,920 --> 01:04:11,159
where they were trained, and the base became the name

848
01:04:11,440 --> 01:04:15,840
for the core of the muja Haden. Guess what that

849
01:04:15,960 --> 01:04:19,480
word is the base? It is al Qaeda al Kaya

850
01:04:19,599 --> 01:04:23,000
is the base the core mujah Hadeen fighting force. And

851
01:04:23,679 --> 01:04:26,719
what do you know, look at this core group of

852
01:04:26,880 --> 01:04:29,119
characters in the White House.

853
01:04:29,199 --> 01:04:29,880
Speaker 7: Isn't that interesting?

854
01:04:32,440 --> 01:04:35,119
Speaker 6: And that is a picture from nineteen eighty three. I

855
01:04:35,119 --> 01:04:39,800
always like to point out too that I don't remember

856
01:04:39,880 --> 01:04:43,039
this being mentioned a lot when I was a kid,

857
01:04:43,199 --> 01:04:47,079
but I do remember watching movies like when Timothy Dalton

858
01:04:47,199 --> 01:04:48,360
was in Living Daylights.

859
01:04:48,440 --> 01:04:50,440
Speaker 7: I think, and there's a beIN.

860
01:04:50,360 --> 01:05:00,519
Speaker 6: Lauden character who fights with Timothy Dalton, and it is

861
01:05:00,880 --> 01:05:05,039
James Bond nineteen eighty seven's Living Daylights. I remember seeing

862
01:05:05,079 --> 01:05:08,039
this as a kid, and I remember thinking, who are

863
01:05:08,119 --> 01:05:10,360
these Arab and Muslim guys?

864
01:05:10,639 --> 01:05:11,119
Speaker 7: Why are they?

865
01:05:12,519 --> 01:05:14,880
Speaker 6: How come they're the good guys here right that they're

866
01:05:14,920 --> 01:05:20,199
fighting with James Bond. By the way, it turns out

867
01:05:20,559 --> 01:05:22,239
Timothy Dalton's dad.

868
01:05:22,119 --> 01:05:23,239
Speaker 7: I believe was.

869
01:05:25,039 --> 01:05:29,519
Speaker 6: Either RAF or British Intelligence, which I didn't know until

870
01:05:29,559 --> 01:05:32,599
the other day. So you learn new things all the time,

871
01:05:32,679 --> 01:05:33,920
even if you study this.

872
01:05:35,440 --> 01:05:35,960
Speaker 7: All the time.

873
01:05:38,199 --> 01:05:42,159
Speaker 6: So, yeah, you've got Ben Lauden, this Ben Laudenish character

874
01:05:42,239 --> 01:05:45,079
here writing with Timothy Dalton. And the movie's funny because

875
01:05:45,119 --> 01:05:47,119
you can tell this guy, well, this guy seems a

876
01:05:47,159 --> 01:05:50,320
lot like Ben Lawson. Right, he's got a castle, he's

877
01:05:50,440 --> 01:05:52,920
got he's a prince out there in the middle of nowhere,

878
01:05:53,000 --> 01:05:56,400
and he's teamed up with British intelligence against Soviets.

879
01:05:56,519 --> 01:06:00,480
Speaker 7: And this is this has been Lauden. Also turns out

880
01:06:00,920 --> 01:06:10,119
the muja Hadeen are in uh Rambo is it Rambo two? Yes?

881
01:06:10,239 --> 01:06:12,880
In fact, no Rainbow three Rambo three.

882
01:06:13,199 --> 01:06:16,960
Speaker 6: The movie was dedicated to al Qaida. Did you know that?

883
01:06:18,559 --> 01:06:21,480
Now they weren't called al Qaida yet, they were called

884
01:06:21,519 --> 01:06:22,199
the Mujahadeen.

885
01:06:22,320 --> 01:06:28,599
Speaker 7: But the base of the muja Hadeen, the core training

886
01:06:30,119 --> 01:06:39,440
grounds and the core guys are all kind of so

887
01:06:42,800 --> 01:06:48,280
for the base in particular, we go back to nineteen

888
01:06:48,360 --> 01:06:50,480
eighty eight, not three eight.

889
01:07:00,320 --> 01:07:00,440
Speaker 5: Eight.

890
01:07:01,440 --> 01:07:05,719
Speaker 6: Al Qaeda is born and it is founded by three guys,

891
01:07:05,800 --> 01:07:11,039
Osama bin Laden, Mohammad Aatef, and Aiman al Zawahiri. And

892
01:07:11,559 --> 01:07:15,199
they called this the Base, which was the headquarters where

893
01:07:15,280 --> 01:07:19,719
the training occurred for the mujahandin in Afghanistan and in Peshwar, Pakistan.

894
01:07:20,719 --> 01:07:23,840
In nineteen eighty nine, their first attack was done a

895
01:07:24,000 --> 01:07:28,519
remote controlled bomb, killing Abdallah Azam and two of his.

896
01:07:28,679 --> 01:07:32,119
Speaker 7: Sons in Peshwar. I didn't even know that, never even

897
01:07:32,159 --> 01:07:32,480
heard of that.

898
01:07:32,880 --> 01:07:35,599
Speaker 6: And it turns out in this chronology that he's going

899
01:07:35,639 --> 01:07:39,119
to list, there's actually quite a few events and truck

900
01:07:39,199 --> 01:07:43,559
bomb events that I was not familiar with. They got

901
01:07:43,599 --> 01:07:48,119
to be pretty proficient in this. And it's not accidental

902
01:07:48,440 --> 01:07:52,400
that people at the time of the OKC event were

903
01:07:52,519 --> 01:07:56,239
beginning to wonder if there was some parallels perhaps between

904
01:07:57,519 --> 01:08:00,800
the Big Nine event, actually me the OKC event, and

905
01:08:02,760 --> 01:08:09,840
the al Qaeda events, because apparently I didn't even know this,

906
01:08:10,159 --> 01:08:13,599
or if I didn't know this, I forgot this. In

907
01:08:13,800 --> 01:08:26,840
nineteen ninety four, Terry Nichols of OKC fame apparently met

908
01:08:29,319 --> 01:08:30,159
Ramsey Yusef.

909
01:08:31,720 --> 01:08:35,479
Speaker 7: Now this was so surprising to me. I was like,

910
01:08:35,600 --> 01:08:42,199
what has anyone else here? I'd never even heard this. Now,

911
01:08:42,399 --> 01:08:46,520
maybe this was a news claim. I don't know. I

912
01:08:46,600 --> 01:08:48,680
don't know who Peter Lance is, but this is this

913
01:08:48,800 --> 01:08:52,880
looks like a true crime page. But he says.

914
01:08:55,319 --> 01:09:00,520
Speaker 6: Congress Men Dana Roorback released a report called okay, is

915
01:09:00,560 --> 01:09:06,439
there a foreign connection? And apparently this is, you know,

916
01:09:06,560 --> 01:09:13,439
a government document mentioning the meeting between Terry Nichols of

917
01:09:13,600 --> 01:09:21,079
OKC fame and the some of the members of al Qaedum.

918
01:09:22,000 --> 01:09:26,840
Now why does this strike an interesting parallel? Well, what

919
01:09:27,039 --> 01:09:31,319
I noticed in the chronology is, for whatever reason, throughout

920
01:09:31,359 --> 01:09:35,800
the nineties they were all about some truck bombs. I mean,

921
01:09:35,840 --> 01:09:38,359
that's just what they did over and over and over.

922
01:09:39,319 --> 01:09:43,479
And it seems that Romsey Yusef, who was sort of

923
01:09:43,600 --> 01:09:47,199
under you trained, undermin Laden, he seemed to be the

924
01:09:47,279 --> 01:09:52,079
guy doing this, right. He's a very important character planning,

925
01:09:52,159 --> 01:09:57,199
for example, the nineteen ninety three WTC event. So we

926
01:09:57,279 --> 01:10:01,880
have in nineteen ninety two, Usef leaves an al Qaeda

927
01:10:02,039 --> 01:10:06,039
guesthouse in Pakistan and moves to New York to begin

928
01:10:06,159 --> 01:10:09,439
to plan the nineteen ninety three WTC event. Now, remember

929
01:10:09,479 --> 01:10:12,079
these are a lot of people trained by the CIA,

930
01:10:12,720 --> 01:10:15,680
and some of these people continued to have an association

931
01:10:15,840 --> 01:10:19,720
and connection and some role within the CIA. Even after

932
01:10:19,840 --> 01:10:22,079
all of these events, such as the Blind Shake.

933
01:10:25,039 --> 01:10:27,319
Speaker 7: Nineteen ninety two, al Qaeda.

934
01:10:28,880 --> 01:10:32,640
Speaker 6: Has its first major terrorist hit, a bomb is detonated

935
01:10:32,720 --> 01:10:36,000
in Yemen, killing a tourist, but the bomb was attended

936
01:10:36,039 --> 01:10:40,359
to kill US troops deployed to Somalia. In nineteen ninety three,

937
01:10:40,479 --> 01:10:43,720
of course, we have the infamous WTC event, and in

938
01:10:43,840 --> 01:10:48,119
Mad Salaam famously, who is himself a very suss shady

939
01:10:48,239 --> 01:10:51,800
character involved in a lot of criminal activities in Mad Salam,

940
01:10:51,960 --> 01:10:56,399
of course, had some degree of proof that there was

941
01:10:56,399 --> 01:10:59,600
an entrapment operation, and the people that he's working with

942
01:10:59,760 --> 01:11:03,680
were to some degree still involved with American intelligence. So

943
01:11:03,760 --> 01:11:06,760
I'm not saying that there weren't people like Ramsey Yusaf

944
01:11:06,920 --> 01:11:14,039
or actual Islamic believers, but it seems as if consistently

945
01:11:14,079 --> 01:11:16,119
in the background of a lot of these events you

946
01:11:16,279 --> 01:11:20,560
have these figures like the Blind Shake, who throughout these

947
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years still maintained their Western intelligence status and connection. In fact,

948
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as we saw in the b. Max Blumenthal book, many

949
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of these entities like Hekkamatyar or Hasbi Islam, the militia,

950
01:11:39,239 --> 01:11:44,479
or the Asia Society these were USAID and CIA fronts

951
01:11:44,600 --> 01:11:46,479
that funded and trained a lot.

952
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Speaker 7: Of these guys. For example, the Boston Globe.

953
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Speaker 6: Admitted that the Blind Shake was for many years a

954
01:11:52,840 --> 01:11:55,920
CIA asset. And in many of these cases, these people

955
01:11:56,000 --> 01:12:00,680
get caught and they mysteriously magically get let go. Why

956
01:12:00,760 --> 01:12:09,079
would these known obvious terrorists consistently be let go, trucked around,

957
01:12:09,319 --> 01:12:11,439
moved to different places over and over and over.

958
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Speaker 7: And of course.

959
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Speaker 6: Blumenthal does cite all these sources. But if you recall,

960
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we covered Brahmsey Yusaf, Khalid, Shake Mohammad, these chaos agents

961
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and their connections in the first half of the of

962
01:12:29,680 --> 01:12:34,640
our coverage of the bluementhal text. CIA, for example, was

963
01:12:34,720 --> 01:12:39,600
behind supporting entities like Mercy International in Michigan run out

964
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of Michigan, Ali Mohammad was saved and protected by the

965
01:12:44,920 --> 01:12:50,439
FBI in Maud Salam was an FBI format who recorded

966
01:12:50,680 --> 01:12:54,000
the entrapment operation for nineteen ninety three event. So it's

967
01:12:54,079 --> 01:13:06,399
like there's all of these various suss things, including while

968
01:13:06,439 --> 01:13:09,760
the inconvenient truth about the CIA collision with International Juatis

969
01:13:09,840 --> 01:13:13,439
were swept away, a coder of Meltrous hyped the al

970
01:13:13,520 --> 01:13:19,199
Qaeda threat to weave fake conspiracy theories when the real

971
01:13:21,319 --> 01:13:24,680
information right was there all along that these people had

972
01:13:24,720 --> 01:13:32,039
been trained, funded and aided by the CIA. The Afghani

973
01:13:32,199 --> 01:13:40,960
Hakmatyar received six hundred million dollars, and Hakmatyar is I

974
01:13:41,159 --> 01:13:45,600
think the is he the mentor? One of these guys

975
01:13:45,680 --> 01:13:49,640
is the mentor to bin Lauden. In fact, Bill Clinton

976
01:13:49,720 --> 01:13:54,560
was still using the Taliban in the nineteen nineties through

977
01:13:54,640 --> 01:13:56,000
these CIA connections.

978
01:13:56,359 --> 01:13:57,039
Speaker 7: So again.

979
01:14:00,479 --> 01:14:03,239
Speaker 6: Six for example, was still using these same Jahatis as

980
01:14:03,279 --> 01:14:08,880
well to go after Ghadafi. In nineteen ninety eight, Gadafi

981
01:14:09,119 --> 01:14:11,640
called for the arrest of Osama bin Laden, and of

982
01:14:11,720 --> 01:14:17,600
course nobody was interested in doing that. Another one of

983
01:14:17,640 --> 01:14:22,439
the characters, Ali Mohammad, very sus very connected to the

984
01:14:22,520 --> 01:14:27,439
CIA multiple times, was let go even though he's a

985
01:14:27,560 --> 01:14:33,239
known terrorist on all the terrorism watch lists, etc. So

986
01:14:33,920 --> 01:14:35,560
all that's covered in here if you want to go

987
01:14:35,800 --> 01:14:37,560
watch the stream that we did on that.

988
01:14:38,359 --> 01:14:42,800
Speaker 7: But to get back to the history of al Qaeda.

989
01:14:44,399 --> 01:14:47,760
Speaker 6: After the nineteen ninety three event, which probably was meant

990
01:14:48,439 --> 01:14:51,039
to be a version of what happened in two thousand

991
01:14:51,079 --> 01:14:54,000
and one, because it looks like they wanted that truck

992
01:14:54,079 --> 01:14:57,159
to kind of take down the structure or at least

993
01:14:57,520 --> 01:15:01,560
in some degree cause massive structural damna image that one

994
01:15:01,600 --> 01:15:03,800
didn't really go the way they had planned it. But

995
01:15:04,800 --> 01:15:09,720
just think about the nineteen ninety three WTC event and

996
01:15:09,760 --> 01:15:14,720
then think about a Conda Lieza Rice saying, we had

997
01:15:14,800 --> 01:15:18,560
no idea that any entity, especially like al Qaeda, had

998
01:15:18,600 --> 01:15:22,119
planned anything like this, Like, I mean.

999
01:15:22,239 --> 01:15:23,399
Speaker 7: Such an obvious lie.

1000
01:15:24,159 --> 01:15:27,560
Speaker 6: It's almost bizarre that they would even lie like that,

1001
01:15:27,880 --> 01:15:30,760
Like what are you talking about? Like I don't I

1002
01:15:30,840 --> 01:15:33,159
don't even know anything about this stuff I'm talking about

1003
01:15:33,159 --> 01:15:35,159
in the nineties, but I know that in nineteen ninety

1004
01:15:35,199 --> 01:15:38,560
three there was an al Qaeda attack on the WTC,

1005
01:15:38,960 --> 01:15:41,560
like and then she says, we had no idea, there

1006
01:15:41,640 --> 01:15:45,560
was no indication that there was any planning of anything

1007
01:15:45,760 --> 01:15:45,920
like this.

1008
01:15:46,439 --> 01:15:47,560
Speaker 7: What are you talking about?

1009
01:15:47,840 --> 01:15:51,760
Speaker 6: Like literally eight years earlier this happened. I mean everybody

1010
01:15:51,800 --> 01:15:55,520
I remember, I was, I was remembering when this hall,

1011
01:15:55,600 --> 01:16:00,479
like what right? And I think, you know, people in

1012
01:16:00,560 --> 01:16:03,159
two thousand and one too, Like people just weren't really

1013
01:16:03,279 --> 01:16:06,640
questioning this kind of stuff at that level. Yet, we

1014
01:16:06,880 --> 01:16:10,720
didn't really think yet how corrupt and how much lying

1015
01:16:11,239 --> 01:16:14,319
the media had done. And you know, and I remember

1016
01:16:14,399 --> 01:16:15,800
what it was like in two thousand and one, two

1017
01:16:15,880 --> 01:16:19,720
or three, like I was in you know, conservative Christian circles.

1018
01:16:20,279 --> 01:16:22,359
We knew about the New World Order, we knew about

1019
01:16:22,800 --> 01:16:25,760
the UN, you had cold warriors that we were worried

1020
01:16:25,760 --> 01:16:28,079
about communism stuff and you know, stuff like that. But

1021
01:16:29,239 --> 01:16:31,600
beyond that kind of stuff, like, nobody knew what a

1022
01:16:31,640 --> 01:16:33,479
false flag was. I didn't know what a false I'd

1023
01:16:33,520 --> 01:16:36,600
never heard of a false flag until I heard Alex

1024
01:16:36,680 --> 01:16:40,520
Jones mention it on something that I heard in two

1025
01:16:40,520 --> 01:16:43,199
thousand and three. So the concept was new to me

1026
01:16:43,279 --> 01:16:47,439
in two thousand and three, and most people just even

1027
01:16:47,479 --> 01:16:49,479
if you were awake and aware, you just didn't know

1028
01:16:49,520 --> 01:16:52,119
about this stuff. And even if you've heard of a

1029
01:16:52,159 --> 01:16:55,039
false flag, like you didn't immediately think, oh, all the

1030
01:16:55,119 --> 01:16:57,840
media lies and the government just lies all the time.

1031
01:16:57,960 --> 01:17:03,800
Speaker 7: Like nobody even conceived of it as that wild. It

1032
01:17:03,920 --> 01:17:07,279
took you know, two more decades.

1033
01:17:07,560 --> 01:17:12,159
Speaker 6: Of just insane levels of lie upon lie and things

1034
01:17:12,239 --> 01:17:15,840
that didn't add up over and over and over before

1035
01:17:15,840 --> 01:17:18,720
people started saying, what, maybe they're just constantly lying like

1036
01:17:18,880 --> 01:17:19,439
all the time?

1037
01:17:20,319 --> 01:17:20,439
Speaker 1: Right.

1038
01:17:20,520 --> 01:17:23,600
Speaker 6: I think one of the big chinks in the armor,

1039
01:17:24,279 --> 01:17:28,920
the big pivots, was when in twenty sixteen, the Woman

1040
01:17:29,000 --> 01:17:30,600
of the Year is Bruce Gender.

1041
01:17:31,319 --> 01:17:31,479
Speaker 7: Right.

1042
01:17:31,560 --> 01:17:34,720
Speaker 6: That was a huge like okay, wait a minute, like

1043
01:17:34,840 --> 01:17:37,680
there's a massive amount of the population that is just

1044
01:17:37,840 --> 01:17:42,720
insane and we'll believe anything, right, And then the next

1045
01:17:42,840 --> 01:17:47,760
pivotal thing has to be the coof right, which is

1046
01:17:48,199 --> 01:17:52,960
absolutely insane. The coof was, as was the next nine

1047
01:17:52,960 --> 01:17:56,479
to eleven, and everybody was like, wait a minute, this

1048
01:17:56,680 --> 01:17:58,720
is like they're lying all the time.

1049
01:17:58,800 --> 01:17:59,680
Speaker 7: The whole thing is a lie.

1050
01:18:00,439 --> 01:18:04,159
Speaker 6: So now looking back after these like mountains and mountains

1051
01:18:04,199 --> 01:18:06,600
of lies, it's like, yeah, we can definitely see like

1052
01:18:09,159 --> 01:18:11,359
who now we have to try to figure out when

1053
01:18:11,399 --> 01:18:12,680
were they actually not lying?

1054
01:18:13,159 --> 01:18:13,279
Speaker 7: Right?

1055
01:18:13,359 --> 01:18:16,279
Speaker 6: That it's it's flipped right, Like if you go back

1056
01:18:16,279 --> 01:18:19,359
to like two thousand and two, three four, it's like, okay,

1057
01:18:19,960 --> 01:18:22,800
here's a lie and here's a lie. And nowadays we

1058
01:18:22,880 --> 01:18:25,399
look back and it's like when were they actually not lying?

1059
01:18:25,800 --> 01:18:29,239
It's it's absolute, it's opposite, right, you think one out

1060
01:18:29,279 --> 01:18:31,840
of ten things is a lie. Now we look back

1061
01:18:31,920 --> 01:18:33,920
and it's like, no, nine out of ten things is

1062
01:18:33,960 --> 01:18:36,199
a lie. Can you find the thing that wasn't a lie?

1063
01:18:36,279 --> 01:18:43,159
It's that it's that insane looking back, so people seem though,

1064
01:18:43,239 --> 01:18:48,800
have to have forgotten this interesting connection. Now it's all

1065
01:18:48,920 --> 01:18:54,279
it's possible that there was no okay see Romsey use

1066
01:18:54,319 --> 01:18:57,760
of connection. Maybe at this time they wanted to create

1067
01:18:57,840 --> 01:19:00,319
a narrative that Terry Nickel and.

1068
01:19:00,720 --> 01:19:02,520
Speaker 7: Right wingers are working with al Kata.

1069
01:19:03,520 --> 01:19:11,039
Speaker 6: Possible, or there's a group above both OKC and al

1070
01:19:11,159 --> 01:19:15,800
KATA that is involved in arranging and helping with T

1071
01:19:15,920 --> 01:19:23,720
E R R O R. But apparently, and this is

1072
01:19:23,800 --> 01:19:30,079
what the Congressional Inquiry in what Williams is referring to,

1073
01:19:30,439 --> 01:19:35,279
is that there was this meeting where Ramsey Yusef met

1074
01:19:35,359 --> 01:19:38,359
up for some reason with Terry Nichols, Which, well, that

1075
01:19:38,359 --> 01:19:41,119
would amuse me immediately, just for me calling to question

1076
01:19:41,600 --> 01:19:45,560
Terry Nichols as some sort of asset, right and Ramsey

1077
01:19:45,640 --> 01:19:49,039
Yuseff as well, perhaps right would would It's not like

1078
01:19:49,880 --> 01:19:54,399
Terry Nichols was converting to Islam or some bullshit that

1079
01:19:54,439 --> 01:19:56,680
the media would try to come up with. To me,

1080
01:19:56,720 --> 01:20:00,119
it would suggest that perhaps these networks and some in

1081
01:20:00,199 --> 01:20:08,600
some capacity overlap with intelligence control or structuring or aiding.

1082
01:20:08,760 --> 01:20:09,399
Speaker 7: From the West.

1083
01:20:15,319 --> 01:20:17,560
Speaker 6: Now here's one I didn't know this is interesting in

1084
01:20:17,640 --> 01:20:24,720
nineteen ninety three, there's another bombing eighteen US troops killed

1085
01:20:24,800 --> 01:20:31,680
in Somalia by al Qaeda. And here's one I did.

1086
01:20:31,720 --> 01:20:34,600
Another one that's pretty crazy. Apparently there was a claim

1087
01:20:35,000 --> 01:20:37,800
al Qaeda was going to assassinate John Paul the Second

1088
01:20:38,319 --> 01:20:42,520
in the Philippines. At the same time there was a

1089
01:20:42,640 --> 01:20:47,039
bombing of the US and Israeli embassies in Manila and

1090
01:20:47,159 --> 01:20:52,039
other Asian capitals, and a supposed hit upon President Clinton

1091
01:20:52,279 --> 01:20:53,800
during his visit to the Philippines.

1092
01:20:53,840 --> 01:20:56,319
Speaker 7: Now, I mean that one, I'm not sure.

1093
01:20:56,159 --> 01:20:59,199
Speaker 6: I believe that one, because at this same time Bill

1094
01:20:59,279 --> 01:21:06,199
Clinton is utilizing al Qaeda in other places. So I mean,

1095
01:21:06,239 --> 01:21:12,159
that could easily just be a made up, you know threat.

1096
01:21:17,159 --> 01:21:24,680
Nineteen ninety four, Bin Laden funds a group to begin

1097
01:21:25,760 --> 01:21:31,479
propaganda in London called the Advice and Reformation Committee.

1098
01:21:31,600 --> 01:21:34,880
Speaker 7: I've never heard of that. Nineteen ninety four. Supposedly Terry

1099
01:21:34,920 --> 01:21:41,239
Nichols meets with Ramsey Yusef. Nineteen ninety five. Romsey Yusef,

1100
01:21:41,520 --> 01:21:42,279
the nineteen.

1101
01:21:42,079 --> 01:21:45,960
Speaker 6: Ninety three event mastermind of the WTC, is arrested in

1102
01:21:46,159 --> 01:21:49,960
Pakistan and extra guyed to the United States. Nineteen ninety

1103
01:21:50,000 --> 01:21:56,600
five OKC interesting the OKAC event two years after Ramsey

1104
01:21:56,680 --> 01:22:04,640
Yusef's ninety three event nineteen ninety five, there's an attempt

1105
01:22:05,159 --> 01:22:12,239
to assassinate Hosni Mubarak in Ethiopia. The assailants claimed to

1106
01:22:12,359 --> 01:22:19,279
be Al Gama al Islamia, an ally of al Qaeda.

1107
01:22:20,439 --> 01:22:24,319
In nineteen ninety five, Sheikh Omar Abd al Rahman, the

1108
01:22:24,439 --> 01:22:29,039
Blind Shaikh the CIA asset, is convicted of conducting terror

1109
01:22:29,079 --> 01:22:30,640
conspiracy against the United States.

1110
01:22:31,319 --> 01:22:32,199
Speaker 7: The Blind Shak is.

1111
01:22:32,199 --> 01:22:34,840
Speaker 6: The spiritual leader of all of the al Qaeda groups

1112
01:22:35,119 --> 01:22:41,079
in Egypt. Nineteen ninety five, a truck bomb explodes outside

1113
01:22:41,159 --> 01:22:45,359
Saudi Arabia's National Guard in Riyad, killing two Indians and

1114
01:22:45,520 --> 01:22:50,520
five US servicemen. Nineteen ninety six, bin Laden is supposedly

1115
01:22:50,680 --> 01:22:54,319
forced to leave the Sudan and accepts a new Taliban

1116
01:22:55,199 --> 01:22:59,159
safe haven in Afghanistan. Nineteen ninety six, truck bomb explodes

1117
01:22:59,279 --> 01:23:03,720
in Saudi Arabia, killing nineteen American soldiers. Nineteen ninety six,

1118
01:23:03,840 --> 01:23:08,479
bin Laden issues his Fatwah declaration of war against America.

1119
01:23:13,439 --> 01:23:16,560
He does this from the Hindu Kush mountains of Afghanistan

1120
01:23:17,000 --> 01:23:19,520
and calls upon all Muslims in the world to fight

1121
01:23:19,640 --> 01:23:28,439
the Jahad. Nineteen ninety seven, al Qaida guns down American

1122
01:23:28,560 --> 01:23:33,760
oil workers. Nineteen ninety seven, Ramsey Yusuf and Ayad Ismayo

1123
01:23:34,359 --> 01:23:36,880
are convicted of the nineteen ninety three event. They were

1124
01:23:36,880 --> 01:23:40,960
given two hundred and forty years in prison. Nineteen ninety eight,

1125
01:23:41,079 --> 01:23:45,439
Al Qaeda, along with the Egyptian jihad group Al Yahad

1126
01:23:47,479 --> 01:23:54,000
and the Pakistani Scholars Society issue a fatwah under the

1127
01:23:54,079 --> 01:23:58,960
heading International Islamic Front for Jahad on Jews and Crusaders

1128
01:24:00,000 --> 01:24:03,319
the Faduan structure the Muslims to kill all Americans and.

1129
01:24:03,359 --> 01:24:05,479
Speaker 7: Civilians where they can be found nineteen ninety eight.

1130
01:24:05,560 --> 01:24:27,039
Speaker 6: Now that's interesting because the Pakistani situation, where does the

1131
01:24:27,439 --> 01:24:40,279
country of Pakistan come from? Who set up its intelligence structure? Well,

1132
01:24:41,239 --> 01:24:46,479
just so happens that British and Western intelligence helped to

1133
01:24:46,840 --> 01:24:51,199
set up and establish the Pakistani ISI, And this of

1134
01:24:51,319 --> 01:24:54,239
course was due to well, we got to you know,

1135
01:24:54,439 --> 01:24:56,760
we don't want these people being under the influence of

1136
01:24:56,840 --> 01:24:57,560
the Soviets.

1137
01:24:57,840 --> 01:25:06,680
Speaker 7: So just seems like the Pakistani ISI. Oh, look at that.

1138
01:25:07,760 --> 01:25:10,960
Speaker 6: And this is where, of course, many of the Mujahadeen

1139
01:25:11,199 --> 01:25:13,520
also have this connection from.

1140
01:25:14,880 --> 01:25:15,439
Speaker 7: Pakistan.

1141
01:25:20,079 --> 01:25:22,119
Speaker 6: By the way, this of course is pointed to by

1142
01:25:22,199 --> 01:25:24,760
many people in regard to the Big Nine event because

1143
01:25:24,920 --> 01:25:30,560
the money wired to General Mahmoud of the Pakistani ISI

1144
01:25:30,920 --> 01:25:31,720
right before the.

1145
01:25:31,720 --> 01:25:36,560
Speaker 7: Big Nine event, that Joe Biden had knowledge of. Do

1146
01:25:36,600 --> 01:25:37,079
you remember that?

1147
01:25:38,880 --> 01:25:48,000
Speaker 6: Because Joe Biden has been asked about this actually many

1148
01:25:48,079 --> 01:25:52,279
times in fact, and it's on a Burmus's channel on

1149
01:25:52,399 --> 01:25:57,960
rockfin It always gets buried, but it's probably not on YouTube.

1150
01:25:58,279 --> 01:26:00,199
Let mean, we could check real quick and see yea

1151
01:26:13,560 --> 01:26:23,640
and of course, yeah, here's one of them. And Luke

1152
01:26:24,560 --> 01:26:27,600
shout out to Luke Radowski. Luke actually asked Biden about this,

1153
01:26:28,359 --> 01:26:31,319
and of course Biden lied and acted like there isn't

1154
01:26:31,399 --> 01:26:32,239
that he never knew that.

1155
01:26:34,640 --> 01:26:37,199
Speaker 9: Senator Joseph Biden is the chairman of the Senate Foreign

1156
01:26:37,199 --> 01:26:39,000
Relations Committee. He's on Capitol Hills.

1157
01:26:39,000 --> 01:26:41,039
Speaker 7: Senator, good morning, Good morning, Brian. How are you.

1158
01:26:41,199 --> 01:26:44,600
Speaker 9: I'm fine, thank you, sir. As the President and all

1159
01:26:44,680 --> 01:26:48,159
of his administration seeks to build a coalition preparing for

1160
01:26:48,279 --> 01:26:50,520
the day when retaliation comes. You had a big meeting

1161
01:26:50,600 --> 01:26:53,399
last night. I understand with the head of the Pakistani

1162
01:26:53,479 --> 01:26:55,279
Secret Service. What can you tell us of that meeting.

1163
01:26:55,800 --> 01:26:58,600
Speaker 4: Well, they're they're they're counterpart to our c I A.

1164
01:26:58,720 --> 01:27:02,079
Bryant and uh. It went incredibly well, quite frankly, I

1165
01:27:02,199 --> 01:27:05,720
had a long discussions with the State Department and the

1166
01:27:05,800 --> 01:27:06,560
Secretary of State.

1167
01:27:06,640 --> 01:27:12,119
Speaker 6: And now when asked about this, he says, this never happened, right,

1168
01:27:12,920 --> 01:27:15,000
So now, wait a minute, why were you talking to

1169
01:27:15,079 --> 01:27:19,840
this guy with this odd connection to the Big nine

1170
01:27:19,880 --> 01:27:21,880
event and money getting wired?

1171
01:27:22,560 --> 01:27:24,000
Speaker 4: And again.

1172
01:27:25,560 --> 01:27:29,079
Speaker 7: Biden is just like, that didn't happen. I don't know

1173
01:27:29,159 --> 01:27:32,720
what you're talking about. And I think it's on. We

1174
01:27:32,800 --> 01:27:35,479
could try to find Burmus's clueless.

1175
01:27:35,079 --> 01:28:25,199
Speaker 11: See transformed not only this country but what he came

1176
01:28:26,479 --> 01:28:29,279
howl just investigation into.

1177
01:28:29,159 --> 01:28:29,640
Speaker 6: Nine to eleven.

1178
01:28:29,920 --> 01:28:30,800
Speaker 7: This is really important.

1179
01:28:30,800 --> 01:28:34,399
Speaker 11: I watched those and then Portergoss would be made head

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of the CIA. Wow, seems like a big deal. Seems

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like something that should have been discussed but never was.

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So we're gonna show you that. We're gonna show you

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how Pakistan actually protected Bin Laden the night before the

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attacks with military personnel at a hospital he was at

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in Pakistan. And again nobody seems to notice, nobody seems

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to care. We care here. The truth matters, and one

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of the reasons is I see this. Okay, over A

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had to cut this down to a little under two minutes.

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I could have done up to two twenty, but I

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didn't want to confuse people. I wanted to focus on

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Joe Biden. He's far from the only person that gets

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talked about.

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Speaker 7: Again.

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Speaker 11: Bob Graham admits to the meeting with the money Man

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and how he was not shy about his relationship with

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the Taliban in the film, this.

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Speaker 6: Is the funding of the big non event.

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Speaker 11: You understand, we have Colin Powell discussing the Pakistani aspect

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of this all killer, no filler. Let's listen to what

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Joe Biden has to say right now.

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Speaker 5: Senator Joe Biden, who had also met with the head

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of the Pakistani ISI, would have harsh words on the

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Senate floor, and the words.

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Speaker 7: Should go out.

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Speaker 4: To those who pretend that they wished to be our friends,

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that they're going to have to make some.

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Speaker 7: Very difficult choices. Pakistan in particular, he is.

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Speaker 4: Going to have to make a very difficult choice very soon.

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Words will not be sufficient, Actions will be demanded.

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Speaker 5: When Biden was confronted, he confirmed his meeting with him,

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then saying Pakistani intelligence was indeed funding the Taliban.

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Speaker 10: Question in the days and the days following nine to eleven,

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you met with the head of Pakistani Ice Eye General.

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Speaker 2: Mohada I met.

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Speaker 10: It has since come to light that he ordered Saihi.

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Why are one hundred thousand ounce of Manahada Muhammada? Why

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was he allowed to go back to Pakistan? And why

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was he questioned? And why were you meeting with him?

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Speaker 4: I met with him to deliver a message that if

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he didn't, if he didn't stop supporting the Taliban, we

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would take him out.

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Speaker 10: Why did we let him go? We let him fly freely.

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We never investigated him, We never even looked into him.

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Speaker 4: Look first thing called diplomatic passports. We did not arrest

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kruse Chef when he came.

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Speaker 10: But he finds the hijackers and you let him go hijacked.

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Speaker 7: Hijack would knoww we find it.

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Speaker 5: He would later state that the information was indeed classified.

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Speaker 7: How did you now he was about the why.

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Speaker 4: I was helping the tally Bat.

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Speaker 5: Sir Pakistan was set up as the silent funding arm

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of the hijackers. They were used as a launching base

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for the occupation of Afghanistan.

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Speaker 11: And that's the truth. And props to Luke Radowski for

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getting that out there and putting him on the spot. Now,

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before we show you the click.

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Speaker 6: It's almost like Biden would lie. Did you guys, Are

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you guys amazed that Joe Biden would lie about just

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letting the guy that they knew funded the whole thing.

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And then I like how Biden's like I gave him.

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Speaker 7: Some tough words. I've delivered a message to him that

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is so fake, dude.

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Speaker 4: Mister Armitage who had met with him already before I met,

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so I knew what had already transpired. And the bottom

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01:32:20,720 --> 01:32:23,000
line was I told them what they told them. They've

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they've got to choose sides. There is no question you're

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01:32:26,119 --> 01:32:28,399
either our friend or your enemy here and I am

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comp Now this.

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Speaker 6: Is the CIA's place that they've used to also train

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Mujahadin and have as a base facing towards Afghanistan versus

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the Soviets. See, Joe gave him what for, like like

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Jimmy Stewart and you know the mister Smith goes to Washington, Right,

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I'm sure, I'm sure Joe was let to have it.

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Speaker 7: Or are they liars?

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Speaker 6: And they were perhaps involved and had four knowledge all right,

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So getting back to the events of the Big Nine.

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By the way, in the history of the Pakistani Isi

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in nineteen seventy seven Operation fair Play. The ISI began

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collecting intelligence on the Pakistani Communist Party and the People's Party.

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The Soviet Afghan War in the nineteen eighties saw the

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enhancement of the isised covert operations, that's their intelligence opera

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op oparatus specially Afghanistan Section known as the s S

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Director was created under the commander Brigadier Mohammad Yusof to

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oversee daily operations in Afghanistan. So you see that the

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CIA is using Pakistan as a base training Mujahidin.

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Speaker 7: To fight in Afghanistan.

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Speaker 6: Officers from the ISIS Covered Action Division received training in

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the United States, so the ISI is essentially a CIA ally.

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Many Covered Actions Action experts the CIA were attached to

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the Pakistani IS side and guarding its operations against the

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Soviets by using the moujahading Now, which by the way,

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calls into question certain interesting events that have been forgotten

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like the Mumbai event. Remember the two thousand and six

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six Mumbai event and the two thousand and eight Mumbai event.

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Speaker 7: Now, if the United.

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Speaker 6: States were serious about its war on terror, and I

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think this is the big obvious like elephant in the room,

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they would have gone after these types of nations and groups. Instead,

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none of those groups were targeted or gone after. In fact,

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Joe Biden let the guy who funded the whole thing leave.

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Speaker 7: Instead. The United States went after Saddam Hussein.

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Speaker 6: And all the enemies of Israel in the Middle East

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following the open odd Ynon and Lekud plans.

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Speaker 7: So what is that like?

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Speaker 6: None of the actual groups that we're talking about are

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actually shut down in places like Saudi Arabia and Pakistan.

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So other interesting events that are probably forgotten in this

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terror cavalcade of the nineties. Truck bombs explode in nineteen

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ninety eight in Kenya and Tanzania, killing three hundred people,

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twelve Americans and five thousand other people wounded. Nineteen ninety eight,

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in retaliation for the embassy bombings, the United States launches

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cruise missile attacks on terrorist camps in Afghanistan and a

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pharmaceutical plant in Sudan supposedly.

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Speaker 7: Linked to Bin Laden.

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Speaker 6: Now why are we like, we're going after these places

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and ignoring the actual hotbeds of Islamic terror and the

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terrorists just magically seemed to slip away, get arrested, get

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let go, and we can't find al Qaeda. We don't

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know where the leaders are, but they can be interviewed

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by Western media and CNN and CBS and ABC and

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British journalists BBC. They could get interviewed by like the BBC,

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but we can't find them. This is how silly this

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is and I'm not kidding. That was the story in

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the nineties and after the Big nine event. We couldn't

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find Bin Laden the hunt for bid Lauden, even though

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01:37:29,359 --> 01:37:33,000
journalists could at times go and interview him, journalists who

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are all intelligence operatives.

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Speaker 7: But we can't find We don't know where he is.

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01:37:36,840 --> 01:37:41,079
He's hiding. He's in the caves of Torah. Bor know

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01:37:41,079 --> 01:37:43,359
where he is. He's got a fortress he's built underneath

1311
01:37:43,359 --> 01:37:47,199
in the cave. Fortress like out of a Bond movie

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or something.

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Speaker 6: Right in retaliation for the embassy bombings or saw that

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in the nineteen ninety eight, US intelligence supposedly thwarts Alcada

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01:37:59,720 --> 01:38:07,399
in Uganda. Nineteen ninety eight, British authorities arrest al Kata

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01:38:07,520 --> 01:38:08,000
in London.

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Speaker 7: Now, wait a minute.

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Speaker 6: If we were gonna stop radical Islam, why wouldn't we

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stop Landonistan. Why did London protect and allow and foment

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and foster Rashid Aswat and all of these goobers in London.

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That's our allies, British intelligence.

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Speaker 7: Are they just totally incompetent? Now that's the Norman narrative.

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We're good holdies.

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Speaker 6: Incompetence people are in the hold These incompetent people who

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01:38:41,520 --> 01:38:48,680
deacate running are incompetent or they're highly competent, and they

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01:38:48,800 --> 01:38:51,359
want London to become Landhanistan.

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Speaker 7: The Liberals are dumb, these dumb liberal boobs idiots in Washington.

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Speaker 6: Nineteen ninety nine, President Clinton imposed his sanctions against the

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Taliban because of harboring Ben Laden.

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Speaker 12: Oh, some Ben Laden's been harbored in Tai in Afghanistan.

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I don't like it one bit, even though I'm gonna

1332
01:39:18,760 --> 01:39:23,640
continue to use them against the Serbs the Mobaum coast

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of o and I'm gonna use Islamic terror.

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Speaker 7: I'm against him.

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Speaker 6: Nineteen ninety nine. The United Nations turns against Ben Lauden.

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Nineteen ninety nine, The FBI obtains from the Kingdom of

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Jordan a six volume manual used by Osama bin Laden

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to train out kata I want to see this, Let's

1339
01:39:49,199 --> 01:39:52,199
see what the can we get an image of this

1340
01:39:52,479 --> 01:39:56,000
that Ben Lauden's collected Works, his sixth volume set.

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Speaker 7: I don't know what I mean. There's all these books

1342
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with all this like is this is it the.

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Speaker 6: The files? Is that the bin Laden files? Or is

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01:40:26,880 --> 01:40:29,000
it what they call Ben Lawden's bookshelf.

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Speaker 7: Now this is something different because that's supposedly the books

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that he had on his.

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Speaker 6: Shelf when they rated his compound. But if you remember

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when the CID classified this one of the