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Speaker 6: All right, Welcome, what's up. I hope you're all having
a good day. We're gonna have bad interesting geopolitical discussion today.
Gonna be a little more on the informative side. I
have a bit of a sinus infection and a kind
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to do the stream even though I don't really feel
like it. So you won't get the normal high power,
high octane sass that you usually get, but.
Speaker 7: It's gonna be fun.
Speaker 6: Nevertheless, perhaps I will regale you with a few impressions,
a bit of witty banter and a lot of hardcore information.
There's never serious, Jay, There's always seeming serious, Jay.
Speaker 7: Why did you take so long? Well, a lot of.
Speaker 6: Times I postponed the streams because something comes up. I
noticed that Kotel is streaming, and I'm proud of him
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Speaker 7: By the way, that's actually what NPR sounds like. I
was listening to that.
Speaker 6: I was starting to get lulled into I was like
starting to pass out getting lulled into it.
Speaker 7: Guess what I got? Good news. Exciting things have happened
on the book front. Around here. We get excited about books.
Speaker 6: I know a lot of you expect dancing monkeys and insanity,
and you'll only watch something when people are acting like
complete retards, And so I act like half a retard
just to keep you slow boys attuned.
Speaker 7: Guess what.
Speaker 2: I got?
Speaker 6: A very rare global elite text that I've been wanting
in physical solid format for about six or seven years
changing images of man. Look at that the full on
hard copy this goes for around one thousand or two
thousand dollars on Jeff Bezos's website. I don't think that
anybody was ever going to pay one thousand dollars for
this book. However, it's just interesting to see somebody send
a what looks like a library declassified or decommissioned or
discarded copy. A lot of times libraries are dumb and
they don't actually know what they have. And I know
that because I've worked at libraries. I was a research
assistant for a couple of years in grad school, and
no one else at the library knew the quality of
the books that we actually had, and of course the
dumb dums that run the library basically discarded most of
the very valuable books. That's about my university library. So
this is at least from some library, and I appreciate
it being sent due to it being discarded. I can't
imagine anybody being so stupid as to discard a thousand
dollars tax, but they did, and so here we are,
and I appreciate that. Again, it's not really worth a
thousand dollars because nobody's going to pay one thousand dollars
for this classic Stanford Research Institute.
Speaker 7: Text from what year was changing A Changing Image as
a man? Was written in.
Speaker 6: Nineteen eighty two, and you know it's a collaborative effort
with Willis Harmon. Of course, we know about Willis Harmon,
who you know worked and contributed a lot of global
elite white papers. Joseph Campbell also was involved in this TESXXT.
So this is a white paper, one of the most
famous coming from the Stanford Research Institute. And as we
look at the it also appears to be collaborative or
published with Oxford Press.
Speaker 7: Oxford pergram On Press.
Speaker 6: Yeah, and the reason that this is really important is that,
you know, we hear about these kind of sensational things
like the Gateway process that Cotel and I did a
podcast on, and we hear about things like.
Speaker 7: It's two thousand dollars. Well, again, nobody's going to pay
two thousand dollars.
Speaker 6: So we know about the Stanford Research Institute texts on
remote viewing and the Stargate project. So what do we
get out of all of these projects?
Speaker 7: Will we get an overview?
Speaker 6: I'm not saying that this is about that, it's related
to all that, right, So the same entity that produced
the SRI stuff was remote viewing and with Gateway process
all that kind of CIA stuff also produced this text
about the changing images of man, both in society and
man's view of himself. And it's one of the most
important New World Order think tank white papers that exist
in physical public form. You can of course easily find
a PDF. People were sending me the PDFs today, Like
I didn't know there was a PDF twenty years ago.
I don't want PDFs. I don't do PDFs. I like
actual physical copies. What are the sections of changing images
of the man that we will, of course lecture there?
Speaker 7: This is up there.
Speaker 6: That's a very important New World Order text, kind of
like Tragy and Hope or Braziski Between Two Ages or
any any of those famous texts.
Speaker 7: This is up there with those. The first chapter talks.
Speaker 6: About man's image of himself and society changing in modernity.
The next section is about ancient Greek models of man
man as beast, Darwin, Freud et cetera, man as mechanism,
man a gnosticism, americanism, economic man, or homo economicus, as
Spangler talked about. You know, you've probably heard me use
these phrases in these terms, and you think, oh, Jay's
just talking out of his ass. These are just words
that he thinks sound cool. Now I'm actually using the
terminology of the white papers. This is how the speak.
There's an entire section on homoeconomicus. The next section is scientism,
man scientific man, man under the microscope, and then we
talk about ecology and man viewing himself in the environment.
So you can, as you can imagine, yes, this is
going in the direction of Malthusianism, nature worship, ecology, all
that stuff. The evolutionary view of man, guidelines and strategies
for transformation of our view of man and man's view
of himself and society, and so that is going to
be a very important text. It's a very philosophically dense
text too, which I think a lot of people don't
expect this to be as philosophical as it is. I mean,
it's going to deal with a lot of different things.
It's not just evolution, it's not just psychology. It's it's
guidelines and strategies for transforming mankind and society. And this
again is a high level academic text, including Jungians like
Joseph Campbell. So that's the guiding thinkers and strategies for
you know how we're talking about Huxley, we're talking about
Margaret Meade, we're talking about in the New Age movement.
Speaker 7: I mean, all of that is.
Speaker 6: Here as I flip through it. I've waited until there
was a hard copy because I'm not going to sit
and read a three hundred page, you know, New World
Order textbook on its computer screen. Computer screens are destroying
our minds and our eyes anyway, So if I'm going
to read it, it's going to be a physical format.
Looks like a lot of philosophy of science, looks like
Abraham Maslow. It looks like it's going to be a
very well collected and collated strategy manual for bringing everybody
into the nWo.
Speaker 7: In this final chapter, we approached the difficult question what
should we do? What is man to do? How do
we transform man? Guess what.
Speaker 6: Is in this chapter? Freemason, the Great Architect, the Dollar Bill.
This isn't a conspiracy book.
Speaker 1: This is a.
Speaker 7: New World Order manual.
Speaker 6: Openly discussed Freemasonry symbolism, and I shouldn't be surprising given
the fact that you know, we're talking about Joseph Campbell
being involved, right, if you've if you've read Joseph Campbell,
if you've have his books. I have at least two
or three of his books, not just you know, Hero
with a Thousand Faces, but other text as will have
a giant coffee table book that Joseph Campbell did, which
is his view of symbology from his sort of pseudo
Masonic perspective.
Speaker 7: Maybe he was a Mason, I don't know, but.
Speaker 6: So it's not surprising that he would he would be
utilizing the sort of changing images of man or use
utilizing this text as a vehicle for freemasonry and its influences.
In fact, page one eighty eight has a significant discussion
again of freemasonry. And I don't usually care about writing
in books. Almost all of my books are completely marked up. However,
given that this is a thousand dollars text, I probably
won't write in it, just because when we're when we're
getting up in the text that are that supposedly you know, valuable,
I'm probably not gonna write in it, even though it
is still tempting. I did write my name in it,
so but hey, if you're an e diva and you
write your autograph on a book, I mean, you're just
making it.
Speaker 7: I mean I could probably sell this. I could probably
sell this for twenty.
Speaker 6: Thousand dollars now that I autograph it.
Speaker 7: You know what I'm saying. I'm just joking about it.
Somebody will clip that and be like, look at this guy,
look out on Christian news.
Speaker 6: There's some weird stuff in this book too, which I
don't I don't know what these little there's like these
little that's look like little Jim Bob cartoons in the book.
Speaker 7: I don't know why, like what is.
Speaker 6: Maybe i'd have to read to get the context, but
I don't know what's going on with this guy that's trying.
Speaker 7: To pull the bars out of a box.
Speaker 6: Anyway, there it is changing him as a man in
the actual hard copy.
Speaker 7: It's gonna be fun to do that.
Speaker 6: Like I said, we were gonna do a few geopolitical
texts next, and.
Speaker 7: That is today's topic.
Speaker 1: Al Kada.
Speaker 6: Y'all know about al Kada's paid.
Speaker 8: With the musher gashes were on really at Alcada, The
musher gashes at al Kada. Remember Bush talking about al Kada,
the Terrish and the musherd Gashes al Kada.
Speaker 6: Well, how many channels, how many people have done a
in depth on al Qatta?
Speaker 7: Not many.
Speaker 6: I can't really think of any. I'm sure there is
something out there. Of course, again shout out to our
buddy Kotel. Cotel has done many videos, many talks dedicated
too specific topics like the history of Islam. Kotel and
I did a lengthy breakdown of the history of British
intelligence and Islam, which is an excellent talk.
Speaker 7: It's a classic.
Speaker 1: Go watch that.
Speaker 6: I recently did a discussion of Black Gold Spies written
by a French historian and analyst, on the role of
British intelligence in the Middle East. And of course that
book didn't just focus on British intelligence. It also discussed
the Russian interest in the Middle East in the last
couple of centuries. It discussed the Napoleonic interest in the
Middle East and some of the French and Napoleonic spies
and their attempts to kind of get a foothold in
the Middle East and to try to get a hold
of some of the old the the black gold aka oil,
but they were not really ever successful and really the
US and the Brits or the Anglo American establishment ended
up ultimately kind of cornering the market on Middle Eastern.
Speaker 7: Gold oil reserves. And then, as you guys know.
Speaker 6: Over the years, we've covered a couple other very important
geopolitical texts in regard to the role of Islamic sects,
not the least of which is Secret Affairs by Mark Curtis,
very important book. We've lectured through this whole fat thing
around the same time. This is about ten years ago,
so we're about out a ten year anniversary of Secret Affairs.
Speaker 7: Around the same time we lectured through Robert.
Speaker 6: Dreyfuss's Devil's Game. And these two books are very comparable
because this one focuses on Britain's role in its alliance
with you mean, we could just call it Islam Islam,
is rahdical Islam, Real Islam, is radical Islam.
Speaker 7: And this one focuses on the.
Speaker 6: US alliance and work with Islam Radical Islam. And then,
more recently, as you guys know, we did lecture through
Max Blumenthal's book Management of Savagery. Of course, he was
just on with Lord Voldemore the other day. I don't
know Max Bloomenthal never talked to him. I would say,
the first half of this book is a lot better
than the second half of the book. Overall pretty good,
but we did have some criticisms of this text. And
then we have a book that we've not yet gotten to,
which I do intend to get to, probably a little
more controversial. But rather than reading from the left, we'll
be reading somebody from the quote far right, Carrie Bolton's
book Islam or Zionism Islam in the West, So that
will be in the near future as well. But today's
text is Paul Williams, and yes that this is the
same Paul Williams that wrote the Gladio text. Now remember
Paul Williams is a Catholic lecture and historian a little
more on the left side. There are Roman Catholics a
little more on the right side that we've covered who've
written similar geopolitical analyses. We covered, for example, the Paul
Kaylor book on the role of the KGB in the Vatican.
Speaker 7: In the Cold War. We covered his dismissal of the.
Speaker 6: Idea of Gladio being in any way involved and utilized
by some of these radical movements. But of course we
know that that's not true, and that Gladio is a
real thing. And we've been touching on Gladio for a
long time. We've talked about Paul Wlliams's Gladio text. We
talked about the Daniel Ganter thesis, which looks like his
geopolitical PhD thesis. So if you guys would hit like
and share, we're going to get into this somewhat older text.
And this is relevant because Williams wrote this the year
after the Big Nine event, and so he was a
consultant to the FBI right after this at the time
of this, and so we can think of ourselves getting
an overview here that is not yet going to go
too deep into the conspiratorial side of things. So this
is going to be a history of al Qaeda. This
will also relate to ISIS in regard to what we've
covered in the other books like Secret Affairs and Management
of Savagery, because those also touched on the history of ISIS. Yes,
I'm well aware that Carrie Bolton was and has had
a background and a history in a various Satanic groups.
Speaker 7: What does that have to do with me? Who are
these people? Where are we getting these weirdos here? Yeah?
Speaker 6: Just ban these people that are saying this nonsense. So
what we do on my channel is we cover all
the sides of the issue, whether the authors are more
on the left or more on the right, and I
think that gives us a superior vantage point to look
at these topics. Likewise, with the character Paul Williams, I
don't necessarily agree with everything that Paul Williams says. What
we're gonna be talking about, though, is because he was
a consultant of the FBI, he was taken seriously in
terms of his approach to these questions, and when he
wrote this he was not as well read into the
more geopolitical conspiratorial topics. For example, in the Gladiotext, he
seems as the book progresses to be aware of quickly
Tragian Hope. He's aware of Cecil Rose, that whole network.
So he seems to have a pretty good lay of
the land by the time that he wrote that book
many many years later.
Speaker 7: This is early on. This is one year after the
Big Nine event, and.
Speaker 6: So he's not perhaps as aware of everything as he
becomes later on. In fact, at the end of the Gladiotext,
he makes a connection between the type of terror that
was utilized in Gladio and the type of Terrortil by
al Kada.
Speaker 7: Okay, so don't approach this.
Speaker 6: Don't come at me like I'm some low tier slow boy.
We've lectured through dozens and dozens of texts We've read.
I've read hundreds of texts on the books over the
years on these issues. I'm very well aware of everything
to do with all the various theories of what happened
on the Big Nine event. We're not totally going into
the Big Nine event today. You can't really do that
on YouTube. I have talks for my members section and
over at Rockfin that go deeper into the specifics of
the Big Nine event. But the reason that Williams was,
i assume asked to write this book in this consult
for the FBI, was because at the time of the
Big Nine event, most Americans, and even to this day,
most Americans have no idea about Islam. They don't know
anything about it. I didn't know anything about Islam in
two thousand and one two thousand and two. I got
into the more conspiratorial side of things through various documentaries
of course, from Lord of Voldemort, Jason Burmas, Loose Change
all that. So I began to look into these topics
right around the time that Williams wrote his book. So
this will give us an introduction, though to the history
of all kinda from a very well written but informative
introductory approach. So you don't have to start yapping at
me about conspiracies. I've been involved in and reading Big
Nine Event conspiracies since two thousand and three. Most of
the books that you're going to tell me about I've
read I knew about. I read one of the first
I think, eight hundred page Big nine Event conspiracy books
when it came out.
Speaker 7: From What's I got, he went kind of crazy, crossing
the rubicon. I read that entire book.
Speaker 6: I read Webster Tarpley's entire six hundred and seven hundred
page book on the Big Nine Event.
Speaker 7: I'm way beyond all that.
Speaker 6: So if you're new here, you don't need to show
off and try to tell me about what I don't know.
Speaker 7: I know Alan Sabrowski, I know. I've heard all of
his lectures.
Speaker 6: I know all of that theory of other Middle Eastern
countries involvements.
Speaker 7: I have on my shelf up here, Victor O.
Speaker 6: Strowsky's books, I have Gordon Thomas's books on the Masade.
You don't need to I know all this stuff. So
I am the most well known black scholar of.
Speaker 7: The Big nine event on the Internet and on alternative media. Hey, Jamie,
could you make me a express?
Speaker 6: So so anyway, yeah, mods, if you would today, I'm
sure this hot button topic we're gonna get a lot
of crazies. Feel free to liberally ban the idiots. Yeah,
if you would, Yeah, thank you, Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 7: You ever heard of building seven? Okay?
Speaker 6: So now, remember Paul Williams has a background as a
kind of I think he's a Catholic historian and because
of his interests I guess in history of Western civilization
he got I guess. He just says he consulted with
the FBI on what al Qaeda was in the history
of will Hobby Salafi type movements, and so.
Speaker 7: He says that.
Speaker 6: Becaus by talking about Aquinas, and he says that Aquinas
taught us that clear thinking comes from the ability to
make distinctions. And in fact, in this nude, remember this
is written in two thousand and two, this New War
on Big T distinctions become muddled. And this is very confusing,
and it would have been nice if you know, Americans
had really gotten familiar with the history of Islam back
at this time, But of course that's never going to happen.
And I think obviously at the time, people in Washington,
apak net and Yahoo, likud, you know, the neocons, they
didn't want anybody having a precise, distinct way to categorize
and understand Islam. And like I said, I went down
the same path because I didn't know anything about it,
and my introduction to a lot of this stuff was
from the conspiratorial side, none of which I've changed. My
views on that haven't changed. But I think what happens
is when you come into understanding Islam from a political, geopolitical.
Speaker 7: Side of things.
Speaker 6: I had blind sides for many years to the actual
history and theology of Islam. And as you guys know,
if you're familiar with my channel, since about twenty seventeen
or eighteen, I've done a lot of Islamic debates and
gotten into Islam. I'm not an Islamic expert expert. I
don't actually find Islam that interesting, but I did feel
it relevant to begin to debate Muslims because we are
seeing the intentional expansion and promotion of Islam in the West.
I think everybody's seen this without a no denying it now,
especially what's happening in the Fabian Socialist dominated UK, which
the Fabian Socialists, as we pointed out, for many years now,
set one hundred plus years ago that they would import
Islam into the West by design, and we saw this
covered in many texts including Quigley, Khlerghi, etc. The Ratija text.
They've all planned and said that this would be used.
So what I think happens as you delve into this
is that you realize that.
Speaker 7: It's not that these things jay recently converted, like what
are you guys talking about?
Speaker 6: It's not that these things that you study are wrong.
It's just that they're kind of like pieces of the
puzzle or narrow windows in and you don't really.
Speaker 7: Get the full picture.
Speaker 6: So while Burmas's documentary is great, it doesn't really tell
us that.
Speaker 7: The essence of Islam right.
Speaker 6: And of course, no, I'm not taking shots at Burmas.
That wasn't the purpose of the documentary. But in other words,
though I might question the Big Nine event and begin
to think that that was a fake flag event, and
so forth I might be led into thinking that well,
oh well, Islam is the choice sort of scapegoat Patsy
here in this Therefore, perhaps Islam is not that bad
and that's not the truth.
Speaker 9: Right.
Speaker 7: So I had a kind of a blind spot to.
Speaker 6: This religion because I didn't know much about it, as
most Americans and Evangelicals and others don't know. However, the
Internet has really made this kind of difficult for Muslims,
especially in the last few years, because people are through
a lot of these debates through especially you know, our
big debate that we had last year, which was one
of the biggest millions of Yews on the Fresh and
Fit debate right where we were debating the Muslims, and
many many other big, high profile debates like that, not
just myself, many others with much bigger debates and bigger
channels than me. We've seen, I think the absurdity of Islam,
and that was not something I was aware of throughout
the two thousands the twenty tens. I think people don't
know about the hadiths, they don't know the other side
of this religion and just how silly right a lot
of this is, and so they come at it with
a lot of ignorance, as I did when I was
awakened to these things. So, for example, when I was
on with the Hodge Twins we discussed Islam, and the
Hodge Twins.
Speaker 7: Islam pretty baged, you saying Islam ain't beaged.
Speaker 6: No, Islam not bathed. So we had to go through
the Talmudic origins of Islam. And to Williams's credit, he
doesn't exactly go into the Talmudic origins of it, but
he notices that Islam is pretty much a judaizing cult. Well,
of course it is, and he hits on some of
the historical details that were even new to me that
backs up that analysis of Islam as a type of
judaizing sect from you know, the sixth and seven eighth centuries,
getting getting its its legging, so to speak, and becoming
a world religion through warfare conquest. Before we get into
the text, though, before we get into the the depth
of this discussion, I do want to do want to
play a little bit of this clip here, which yeah,
and I was kind of a corny AI thing, but
it's actually a pretty good video whoever made this, because
it's going to.
Speaker 7: Point out that, as we said with.
Speaker 6: You know, prior to Islam. Islam didn't invent terror. There
were quite a few terror religions, terror groups, terror cults.
And really what we're gonna notice is that al Qaeda
is really structured as a cult. I didn't even realize this,
you know, I've done a lot of geopolitical research, but
usually the geopolitical stuff is trying to track down the
funding of this group and the arming and the training
of this group. It's not it's not oftentimes going into
the religious side of the bin Laden dynasty, the way
they approached and structured al Qaeda, et cetera, and a
lot of that I didn't know, even having read everything
from James Bamford to you know, Webster Tarpley. You know,
those will go into the figures and the people and
the funding, but not really get into the structure and
how the cult was set up. And I didn't really
even think of it as a cult until I actually
started reading more of the kind of mainline analysis. And
I think we should be familiar with the mainline analysis
so that we don't get off in the weeds with
overly conspiratorial theorizing. Because I'm not saying that there aren't
conspiracies but more often than not. For example, I don't
need a mk ultra mind controlled trigger code Patsy person
when there are a there are millions of poor dregs
of society individuals that could be recruited into doing this
with basic conditioning and threats and rewards of seventy two virgins.
And you're talking about very, very low IQ people who
will believe these things. So what's more likely that there's
giant underground facilities that have trained through extensive doctor you
and Cameron mcaultra mind control implant stuff. Or I have
a million street thug arab dudes that don't have any
prospects in life, and I recruit them into my organization,
give them a little bit of money and training, tell
them that you now have a mission from God, and
by the way, if you don't, we will take out
your family members. Those are pretty strong motivations that don't
require the wild theorizing that much of the conspiracy world
gets into.
Speaker 10: Now.
Speaker 6: I'm not saying Webster Tarpley is legit. I'm just saying
I've read the books.
Speaker 7: Man. You guys got to just.
Speaker 6: It's like talking to children. Man, you guys got to
be a little more mature than this. If I mention
an author, I'm not saying I agree with everything they say.
I'm not even saying that they're good. I'm saying that
we analyze people who are on the CIA side of things,
people that are normies, consultants of the FBI, like Williams.
We'll read the conspiracy text as well. No, I think
Webster Tarply had a lot of interesting insights, but he
apparently I don't know if he went insane or like
he's just I don't know. But that's why we don't
worry about the individuals per se when it comes to
this type of research, because people can be turned in
different directions, people can be paid shills, whatever. We're going
to focus on the information and the data and see
where it takes us. Let's talk about pre Islamic terror
in some cases, and that will kind of set the
stage for terror that we get with the Nazari.
Speaker 7: On Hassana. I forget the Hashamite guy in the Middle
Ages who becomes kind of the father of the hasha
scene or the assassins. So let's check this out. This
is an interesting video.
Speaker 3: Terrorism was not born in the twenty first century, not
even in the twentieth. The history of fear as a
political weapon is as old as civilizations themselves, and it
all begins here in an ancient city where violence was
no longer just a crime, but a message. Jerusalem, year
sixty six after Christ. The Romans ruled the region with
an iron fist, abusive taxes, soldiers on every corner, and
a population divided between those who submitted and those who
were ready to fight. Suddenly, in the crowd, someone falls.
A small curved dagger flashes for a second before disappearing
under a cloak. The killer does not run, he blends
into the throng as fear spreads like a shadow. That
was the hallmark of the Zicari. The Sikari were part
of the Zealot movement, and they believed that the only
way to liberate Judea was through terror.
Speaker 6: Now this is interesting because we know, of course, in
the New Testament we hear about, we read about Simon
the Zelas, so we know that the Zelots were a
faction of the Jews that looked to the Maccabees, to
Judas Maccabeus and the idea of overthrowing the Romans. And
they had been convinced that the Messiah would come as
the Davidic political warrior, conqueror, and of course that's not
what the Messiah came in his first advent to do.
He came as the suffering servant Isaiah fifty three, Isaiah
fifty four, et cetera. Those passages that talk about the
Messiah undergoing this humbling at his first advent and then
of course the ending of his opposition in a more
forceful way at the second Advent. And this idea, though,
of assassins right, is not unique to or nor does
it begin with Arab peoples. There've always been assassinations, There've
always been forms of political terror. You read the Book
of Judges, for example, we read about the assassination hood,
the assassination that goes on there. We read about, yeah,
many other groups that utilize assassination as.
Speaker 7: A form of terror.
Speaker 6: But people don't think about Jews or Israelis or the
history of Israel including terror. And that's of course definitely
the case, even up into the twentieth century with the
Irgun and the Stern Gang and the founding of the
modern governmental intelligence military structure of Israel that comes out
of actually the organized crime.
Speaker 3: They did not attack armies. They did not declare battles.
They killed in public in broad daylight, priests, leaders and
officials who collaborated with Rome. The crime was not the end,
it was the means. What mattered was the spectacle that
everyone knew. No one was safe if they were on
the wrong side. Think about it for a moment. They
were few men, poorly armed, facing the most powerful empire
in the world. How could they challenge Rome. They did
not need to destroy armies, only to generate fear. Fear
destabilizes more than a thousand swords. And that principle would
be repeated again and again in the history of terrorism.
Speaker 6: And you'll get a similar idea with communism and guerrilla warfare,
right you know. Gorilla warfare is a more modern version
of this, where you are struggling against a much larger opponent,
and probably because it's the most effective means of fighting
something like an empire, you would engage in these sort
of secret societies sell type approaches to assassinations and trrr so.
Speaker 3: Exactly centuries later, in the Mountains of Persia, another sect
perfected the art of terror, the Hasshashin, led by Hassani Saba.
They became famous for sending young fanatics to assassinate political.
Speaker 6: And military This is who I was trying to remember,
three leaders.
Speaker 3: What is fascinating is that their attacks were almost theatrical.
They infiltrated castles, camps, or fortified cities and struck in
front of everyone.
Speaker 6: So, yeah, you've probably played Assassin's creed.
Speaker 3: So here you go, without fleeing, without hiding. The impact
was not in the death of a man, but in
the message. If they could reach this far, no one
is safe. The West was so marked by these stories
that the word assassin from them, and although much was
exaggerated by crusaders and European chroniclers, the truth is that
the Hashshashin built a reputation so feared that even great
kings preferred to negotiate rather than risk their daggers. Imagine
the psychological effect an army of thousands paralyzed by the
fear of a handful of men willing to die just
to send a message. But terrorism did not always come
from rebellious groups. History also shows US examples of state terrorism,
and one of the clearest occurred during the French Revolution
in seventeen ninety three. The people had overthrown the monarchy,
proclaimed the republic and dreamed of a new order of freedom,
but the revolutions soon devoured itself. The Committee of Public Safety,
led by Robespierre, established the so called Reign of Terror.
Thousands were executed at the guillotine, and, shocking of all,
it was no longer only nobles and kings, but also
common citizens and revenue.
Speaker 6: So this is of course the Jacobins of the French Revolution.
We've covered this many many times. You get the idea.
So you know, terrorism has a pretty consistent usage throughout history.
We should mention this as well.
Speaker 3: With the tzar Well attack could change history. They called
it propaganda by the deed, the assassination of Tsar Alexander
the Second in eighteen eighty one with a bomb thrown
in Saint Petersburg showed that not even monarchs was safe. Dynamite,
invented only a few decades earlier by Alfred Nobel, became
the weapon of choice. Small, easy to hide and devastating,
a single man could shake an empire. One of the
most infamous examples came in eighteen ninety three, when the
Spanish anarchist Pauli Palas hurled a dynamite bomb at General
Martinez Campos ing a military parade in Barcelona.
Speaker 6: Now, speaking of the anarchists, you'll remember that in the
coverage that we had that Harley an Envy watched was
of the Secret Agent by Joseph Conrad.
Speaker 7: We saw that British literature was.
Speaker 6: Telling us one hundred plus years ago of how things
actually worked. And although some people said they didn't care
for the book, they thought it was boring, Well, I mean,
whatever you think. It was a kind of a dark satire.
But it did talk about fake flag events.
Speaker 7: What do you know.
Speaker 6: So we have people today who still don't know, I'm
going to come out the fake flag is. They think
that this is made up. They think it's conspiracies, and
yet this novel is essentially about that, and it was
written in nineteen o four. So in the novel, of course,
you have the protagonist of Verloc, who is this shop
owner who is kind of a dodgy character, shall we say,
and he's been recruited by a foreign government it's never
exactly made clear who it is, and he runs a
he's sort of a handler informant on a anarchist terror group.
And so even back in nineteen oh four, we had
a British intelligence related novel about the role that terror
could play in fake flag events. Essentially, what's going on
is a fake flag event.
Speaker 7: In the novel. I don't want to.
Speaker 6: Spoil it for you, but if you didn't watch it,
you should watch it. There is an old movie version
of it with Bob Hoskins and I think Rosanna Arquette
and a young Christian Bale playing the slow boy. Yes,
it has a slowboy. In fact, the slow boy is
the patsy to set off the bomb shocker. And then
there's a newer version with Toby Jones that's pretty good
that we watched. It's a little slow, but both of
these versions, if you don't feel like reading the book,
kind of get the point across.
Speaker 7: But nobody watched this.
Speaker 6: Nobody reads books, nobody cares. So everybody wants to be retards.
So I guess we're just going to be retards. Well,
let's get back to this.
Speaker 3: Although the General survived, the attack shocked the public and
demonstrated how a handful of explosives in the right place
could undermine the aura of power and invincibility surrounding governments
and armies. In Paris, cafes and theaters became targets of explosions.
These were not chosen at random. Cafes were the gathering
places of the bourgeoisie, the politicians, and the intellectual class
that anarchists blamed for sustaining an unjust social order. By
striking in such space of leisure and culture, the attackers
sought to demonstrate that privilege and comfort offered no protection
from the violence of revolution, turning everyday venues of entertainment
into symbols of vulnerability. In the United States, in nineteen
oh one, President William McKinley was assassinated by an anarchist.
Suddenly terrorism was no longer a matter of occupied peoples
or sex in distant mountains.
Speaker 6: So, as you can imagine, this comes on the heels
of the recent large scale assassination event. And today in
the news and yesterday were being told that by A
Laura Lumer and others, watch out, Alcata's back with mustard gasses.
So we've got to be worried once again about al
Qaeda and isis You forgot the throwing a curve balle
you forgot about l Kaida and issis They're back. So
let's get into the book after that brief introduction the
Brotherhood of Terror, Williams talks about the the rise of groups.
This is in two thousand and two. There were already
hundreds of groups out there, supposedly that were organic terror
groups running wild. There's Abu Sayif in the Philippines, al
Jihad in Egypt, Hasbalan Lebanon, the Armed Islamic Group in Algeria,
the Islamic Movement in Uzbekistan, the here's what I never
heard of, Rubau Group of Canada, al as osbat Ansar
and Lebanon, Harakut and the Mujahadeen in Pakistan, the Islamic
Group of Egypt, Lebanese Partisan League, the Libyan Islamic Group
Fighting Group, the Salaphus Group for Combat in Algeria, on
and on and.
Speaker 9: On and on.
Speaker 7: So what are we getting at here?
Speaker 6: Endless sects and groups and amorphous things that can morph into.
Speaker 7: The next thing.
Speaker 6: And after the Big nine event, Bush and the regime
declared an amorphous war on terror to eradicate all of
these groups. But the chief group that they singled out
was Osama bin Laden and his network of al Qaeda.
According to Osama bin Laden, the mandate of nineteen ninety
six was the declaration of war against America, the occupying
of the land of the Holy mosques. Quote this has
been supposedly bin Laden. Quote Our Lord, the people of
the Cross have come with their horses and have occupied
the holy places. The Zionist Jews, fiddling as they wish
with al Axa Mosque, the route of ascendants of the
Messenger of Allah. Allah's blessings be upon him, our Lord,
shatter their gathering, divide them, shake the earth under their feet,
and give us control. Our Lord, we take refuge in
you from their deeds, and take us as a shield
between us and them.
Speaker 7: So that's the supposed nineteen ninety.
Speaker 6: Six declaration of war on America and the West.
Speaker 7: The Zionis west by obl and this allowed for a
bifurcation of.
Speaker 6: The world of Islam and the so called Judeo Christian world.
Now I'm not advocating about the judai A Christian world
in the terminology. I've known about that, and critique that
I knew that. Don't bitch at me about like nube stuff. Dude,
I knew about the problem was saying Judeo Christian twenty
five years ago. I know what the Talmud says, we
don't have to go through these steps. So please let's
fast forward up to aware put on your big boy pants.
We don't have to walk through the baby stuff all
over again. Please, don't you have to remind me? I
know what the talman says.
Speaker 7: Did you know that? To tell you don't use the
word judayo Christians? Yes, I knew it twenty years ago.
Shut up.
Speaker 6: My involvement with al Qaeda is that I was obtaining
information for the FBI, and so he worked as a
consultant to some degree. But also, perhaps he seems to say,
as an informant. He says, because I was in the
area of Little Odessa in New York and I was
watching the Ukrainian Russian mafia. He says, Russian mafia, but
it sounds like Little Odessa is the Ukrainian mafia. What's
it called the Vori krazy? I forget that there's a
word for that, because if you watched the excellent movie,
the one Hollywood movie where the Russians aren't the villains
Eastern Promises with Vigo Mortensen, made by David Kronenberg. His
job is as an FSB FSB person to infiltrate infiltrate
the vori krazy I forget the exact word, but so
he says that he worked in this sector of New York,
and he says that a lot of these people were
former KGB that had come here and were engaged in
illicit organized crime work. So they would sell heroin and
they would steal Mercedes and BMW's And this is where
he was focused at this time, working with the FBI.
Speaker 7: Is the vory crazy? What is the FSB?
Speaker 6: Guys man, y'all, y'all got to get with the program. Y'allogists,
y'all are in kindergarten. We're trying to do a fifth
grade lecture, and y'all are in kindergarten.
Speaker 7: Here Turkey.
Speaker 6: He says that was at this time one of the
main pathways that opium was coming into New York from
Poland and Turkey and these This also led him to
researching warehouses in Afghanistan that al Qaeda controlled, and so
al Qaeda Vori v Zakoni. It's it's a weird phrase,
how you said the name of the Ukrainian mafia anyway,
m hm. So that's his interesting background. But this is
where he started realizing that wait, a minute. There's a
connection between the drugs coming into New York in the
late nineties, in the early two thousands from Poland and Turkey,
and this connection to Afghanistan via of course, the poppy
fields and the opium fields of Afghanistan. Yeah, I didn't
really need to see the whole Vigo naked scene where
he's fighting in the bathhouse.
Speaker 7: That part is I didn't expect that either.
Speaker 6: But there's there's an entire naked brawl between like a
fat mafia dude and a naked Vigo in that movie.
Speaker 7: Which you don't expect.
Speaker 6: But he says many of the former KGB officials conducted
all these sales and now lived good lives in the
United States. Several of them settled in Coney Island and
they made millions of dollars stealing and selling high priced
cars like BMW's Me meversites so interesting, and I didn't
I didn't even know that, never heard of that. However,
if you watch the movie Lord of War, that's actually
where Victor Bout is because Nicholas Cage is playing Victor Bout.
Victor Boot, the guy that Alex has had on many
times the book Shadow Masters, the movie Lord of war
is about that anyway. So let's get to a little
bit of a chronology here of an overview of the
events and the life and the life of al Kaeda.
So we go back, of course to nineteen seventy nine,
and this is where we have the freedom fighters. And
these were the freedom fighters that were armed, trained and
funded by the CIA. This is all well known, there
is no question about this. It's very very famous stuff
Operation cyclone. You'll see here the figures with Ronald Reagan
at the White House.
Speaker 7: That's how well known this is. If you think this
is a conspiracy, you're just stupid and ignorant. Now this
is really well known.
Speaker 6: This was the best strategy that Brazinski and Robert Gates
could come up with to fortify the West, supposedly, but
in reality, what they were doing was exhausting the Soviets
in Afghanistan.
Speaker 7: So the idea was, oh, we got to.
Speaker 6: Control Afghanistan because it's the gateway to the Eurasian heartland
according to Brazinski and the Mackinder thesis of geopolitical structure.
But Rashenski was really trying to wear out the Soviets
and he was successful in that, so it worked the
strategy was successful. But out of this force there in
Afghanistan known as the freedom Fighters of the Mujahadeen, there
were many that were trained and armed and would continue
to be a proxy fighting force for the CIA and
British intelligence. And a certain place was called the base
where they were trained, and the base became the name
for the core of the muja Haden. Guess what that
word is the base? It is al Qaeda al Kaya
is the base the core mujah Hadeen fighting force. And
what do you know, look at this core group of
characters in the White House.
Speaker 7: Isn't that interesting?
Speaker 6: And that is a picture from nineteen eighty three. I
always like to point out too that I don't remember
this being mentioned a lot when I was a kid,
but I do remember watching movies like when Timothy Dalton
was in Living Daylights.
Speaker 7: I think, and there's a beIN.
Speaker 6: Lauden character who fights with Timothy Dalton, and it is
James Bond nineteen eighty seven's Living Daylights. I remember seeing
this as a kid, and I remember thinking, who are
these Arab and Muslim guys?
Speaker 7: Why are they?
Speaker 6: How come they're the good guys here right that they're
fighting with James Bond. By the way, it turns out
Timothy Dalton's dad.
Speaker 7: I believe was.
Speaker 6: Either RAF or British Intelligence, which I didn't know until
the other day. So you learn new things all the time,
even if you study this.
Speaker 7: All the time.
Speaker 6: So, yeah, you've got Ben Lauden, this Ben Laudenish character
here writing with Timothy Dalton. And the movie's funny because
you can tell this guy, well, this guy seems a
lot like Ben Lawson. Right, he's got a castle, he's
got he's a prince out there in the middle of nowhere,
and he's teamed up with British intelligence against Soviets.
Speaker 7: And this is this has been Lauden. Also turns out
the muja Hadeen are in uh Rambo is it Rambo two? Yes?
In fact, no Rainbow three Rambo three.
Speaker 6: The movie was dedicated to al Qaida. Did you know that?
Now they weren't called al Qaida yet, they were called
the Mujahadeen.
Speaker 7: But the base of the muja Hadeen, the core training
grounds and the core guys are all kind of so
for the base in particular, we go back to nineteen
eighty eight, not three eight.
Speaker 5: Eight.
Speaker 6: Al Qaeda is born and it is founded by three guys,
Osama bin Laden, Mohammad Aatef, and Aiman al Zawahiri. And
they called this the Base, which was the headquarters where
the training occurred for the mujahandin in Afghanistan and in Peshwar, Pakistan.
In nineteen eighty nine, their first attack was done a
remote controlled bomb, killing Abdallah Azam and two of his.
Speaker 7: Sons in Peshwar. I didn't even know that, never even
heard of that.
Speaker 6: And it turns out in this chronology that he's going
to list, there's actually quite a few events and truck
bomb events that I was not familiar with. They got
to be pretty proficient in this. And it's not accidental
that people at the time of the OKC event were
beginning to wonder if there was some parallels perhaps between
the Big Nine event, actually me the OKC event, and
the al Qaeda events, because apparently I didn't even know this,
or if I didn't know this, I forgot this. In
nineteen ninety four, Terry Nichols of OKC fame apparently met
Ramsey Yusef.
Speaker 7: Now this was so surprising to me. I was like,
what has anyone else here? I'd never even heard this. Now,
maybe this was a news claim. I don't know. I
don't know who Peter Lance is, but this is this
looks like a true crime page. But he says.
Speaker 6: Congress Men Dana Roorback released a report called okay, is
there a foreign connection? And apparently this is, you know,
a government document mentioning the meeting between Terry Nichols of
OKC fame and the some of the members of al Qaedum.
Now why does this strike an interesting parallel? Well, what
I noticed in the chronology is, for whatever reason, throughout
the nineties they were all about some truck bombs. I mean,
that's just what they did over and over and over.
And it seems that Romsey Yusef, who was sort of
under you trained, undermin Laden, he seemed to be the
guy doing this, right. He's a very important character planning,
for example, the nineteen ninety three WTC event. So we
have in nineteen ninety two, Usef leaves an al Qaeda
guesthouse in Pakistan and moves to New York to begin
to plan the nineteen ninety three WTC event. Now, remember
these are a lot of people trained by the CIA,
and some of these people continued to have an association
and connection and some role within the CIA. Even after
all of these events, such as the Blind Shake.
Speaker 7: Nineteen ninety two, al Qaeda.
Speaker 6: Has its first major terrorist hit, a bomb is detonated
in Yemen, killing a tourist, but the bomb was attended
to kill US troops deployed to Somalia. In nineteen ninety three,
of course, we have the infamous WTC event, and in
Mad Salaam famously, who is himself a very suss shady
character involved in a lot of criminal activities in Mad Salam,
of course, had some degree of proof that there was
an entrapment operation, and the people that he's working with
were to some degree still involved with American intelligence. So
I'm not saying that there weren't people like Ramsey Yusaf
or actual Islamic believers, but it seems as if consistently
in the background of a lot of these events you
have these figures like the Blind Shake, who throughout these
years still maintained their Western intelligence status and connection. In fact,
as we saw in the b. Max Blumenthal book, many
of these entities like Hekkamatyar or Hasbi Islam, the militia,
or the Asia Society these were USAID and CIA fronts
that funded and trained a lot.
Speaker 7: Of these guys. For example, the Boston Globe.
Speaker 6: Admitted that the Blind Shake was for many years a
CIA asset. And in many of these cases, these people
get caught and they mysteriously magically get let go. Why
would these known obvious terrorists consistently be let go, trucked around,
moved to different places over and over and over.
Speaker 7: And of course.
Speaker 6: Blumenthal does cite all these sources. But if you recall,
we covered Brahmsey Yusaf, Khalid, Shake Mohammad, these chaos agents
and their connections in the first half of the of
our coverage of the bluementhal text. CIA, for example, was
behind supporting entities like Mercy International in Michigan run out
of Michigan, Ali Mohammad was saved and protected by the
FBI in Maud Salam was an FBI format who recorded
the entrapment operation for nineteen ninety three event. So it's
like there's all of these various suss things, including while
the inconvenient truth about the CIA collision with International Juatis
were swept away, a coder of Meltrous hyped the al
Qaeda threat to weave fake conspiracy theories when the real
information right was there all along that these people had
been trained, funded and aided by the CIA. The Afghani
Hakmatyar received six hundred million dollars, and Hakmatyar is I
think the is he the mentor? One of these guys
is the mentor to bin Lauden. In fact, Bill Clinton
was still using the Taliban in the nineteen nineties through
these CIA connections.
Speaker 7: So again.
Speaker 6: Six for example, was still using these same Jahatis as
well to go after Ghadafi. In nineteen ninety eight, Gadafi
called for the arrest of Osama bin Laden, and of
course nobody was interested in doing that. Another one of
the characters, Ali Mohammad, very sus very connected to the
CIA multiple times, was let go even though he's a
known terrorist on all the terrorism watch lists, etc. So
all that's covered in here if you want to go
watch the stream that we did on that.
Speaker 7: But to get back to the history of al Qaeda.
Speaker 6: After the nineteen ninety three event, which probably was meant
to be a version of what happened in two thousand
and one, because it looks like they wanted that truck
to kind of take down the structure or at least
in some degree cause massive structural damna image that one
didn't really go the way they had planned it. But
just think about the nineteen ninety three WTC event and
then think about a Conda Lieza Rice saying, we had
no idea that any entity, especially like al Qaeda, had
planned anything like this, Like, I mean.
Speaker 7: Such an obvious lie.
Speaker 6: It's almost bizarre that they would even lie like that,
Like what are you talking about? Like I don't I
don't even know anything about this stuff I'm talking about
in the nineties, but I know that in nineteen ninety
three there was an al Qaeda attack on the WTC,
like and then she says, we had no idea, there
was no indication that there was any planning of anything
like this.
Speaker 7: What are you talking about?
Speaker 6: Like literally eight years earlier this happened. I mean everybody
I remember, I was, I was remembering when this hall,
like what right? And I think, you know, people in
two thousand and one too, Like people just weren't really
questioning this kind of stuff at that level. Yet, we
didn't really think yet how corrupt and how much lying
the media had done. And you know, and I remember
what it was like in two thousand and one, two
or three, like I was in you know, conservative Christian circles.
We knew about the New World Order, we knew about
the UN, you had cold warriors that we were worried
about communism stuff and you know, stuff like that. But
beyond that kind of stuff, like, nobody knew what a
false flag was. I didn't know what a false I'd
never heard of a false flag until I heard Alex
Jones mention it on something that I heard in two
thousand and three. So the concept was new to me
in two thousand and three, and most people just even
if you were awake and aware, you just didn't know
about this stuff. And even if you've heard of a
false flag, like you didn't immediately think, oh, all the
media lies and the government just lies all the time.
Speaker 7: Like nobody even conceived of it as that wild. It
took you know, two more decades.
Speaker 6: Of just insane levels of lie upon lie and things
that didn't add up over and over and over before
people started saying, what, maybe they're just constantly lying like
all the time?
Speaker 1: Right.
Speaker 6: I think one of the big chinks in the armor,
the big pivots, was when in twenty sixteen, the Woman
of the Year is Bruce Gender.
Speaker 7: Right.
Speaker 6: That was a huge like okay, wait a minute, like
there's a massive amount of the population that is just
insane and we'll believe anything, right, And then the next
pivotal thing has to be the coof right, which is
absolutely insane. The coof was, as was the next nine
to eleven, and everybody was like, wait a minute, this
is like they're lying all the time.
Speaker 7: The whole thing is a lie.
Speaker 6: So now looking back after these like mountains and mountains
of lies, it's like, yeah, we can definitely see like
who now we have to try to figure out when
were they actually not lying?
Speaker 7: Right?
Speaker 6: That it's it's flipped right, Like if you go back
to like two thousand and two, three four, it's like, okay,
here's a lie and here's a lie. And nowadays we
look back and it's like when were they actually not lying?
It's it's absolute, it's opposite, right, you think one out
of ten things is a lie. Now we look back
and it's like, no, nine out of ten things is
a lie. Can you find the thing that wasn't a lie?
It's that it's that insane looking back, so people seem though,
have to have forgotten this interesting connection. Now it's all
it's possible that there was no okay see Romsey use
of connection. Maybe at this time they wanted to create
a narrative that Terry Nickel and.
Speaker 7: Right wingers are working with al Kata.
Speaker 6: Possible, or there's a group above both OKC and al
KATA that is involved in arranging and helping with T
E R R O R. But apparently, and this is
what the Congressional Inquiry in what Williams is referring to,
is that there was this meeting where Ramsey Yusef met
up for some reason with Terry Nichols, Which, well, that
would amuse me immediately, just for me calling to question
Terry Nichols as some sort of asset, right and Ramsey
Yuseff as well, perhaps right would would It's not like
Terry Nichols was converting to Islam or some bullshit that
the media would try to come up with. To me,
it would suggest that perhaps these networks and some in
some capacity overlap with intelligence control or structuring or aiding.
Speaker 7: From the West.
Speaker 6: Now here's one I didn't know this is interesting in
nineteen ninety three, there's another bombing eighteen US troops killed
in Somalia by al Qaeda. And here's one I did.
Another one that's pretty crazy. Apparently there was a claim
al Qaeda was going to assassinate John Paul the Second
in the Philippines. At the same time there was a
bombing of the US and Israeli embassies in Manila and
other Asian capitals, and a supposed hit upon President Clinton
during his visit to the Philippines.
Speaker 7: Now, I mean that one, I'm not sure.
Speaker 6: I believe that one, because at this same time Bill
Clinton is utilizing al Qaeda in other places. So I mean,
that could easily just be a made up, you know threat.
Nineteen ninety four, Bin Laden funds a group to begin
propaganda in London called the Advice and Reformation Committee.
Speaker 7: I've never heard of that. Nineteen ninety four. Supposedly Terry
Nichols meets with Ramsey Yusef. Nineteen ninety five. Romsey Yusef,
the nineteen.
Speaker 6: Ninety three event mastermind of the WTC, is arrested in
Pakistan and extra guyed to the United States. Nineteen ninety
five OKC interesting the OKAC event two years after Ramsey
Yusef's ninety three event nineteen ninety five, there's an attempt
to assassinate Hosni Mubarak in Ethiopia. The assailants claimed to
be Al Gama al Islamia, an ally of al Qaeda.
In nineteen ninety five, Sheikh Omar Abd al Rahman, the
Blind Shaikh the CIA asset, is convicted of conducting terror
conspiracy against the United States.
Speaker 7: The Blind Shak is.
Speaker 6: The spiritual leader of all of the al Qaeda groups
in Egypt. Nineteen ninety five, a truck bomb explodes outside
Saudi Arabia's National Guard in Riyad, killing two Indians and
five US servicemen. Nineteen ninety six, bin Laden is supposedly
forced to leave the Sudan and accepts a new Taliban
safe haven in Afghanistan. Nineteen ninety six, truck bomb explodes
in Saudi Arabia, killing nineteen American soldiers. Nineteen ninety six,
bin Laden issues his Fatwah declaration of war against America.
He does this from the Hindu Kush mountains of Afghanistan
and calls upon all Muslims in the world to fight
the Jahad. Nineteen ninety seven, al Qaida guns down American
oil workers. Nineteen ninety seven, Ramsey Yusuf and Ayad Ismayo
are convicted of the nineteen ninety three event. They were
given two hundred and forty years in prison. Nineteen ninety eight,
Al Qaeda, along with the Egyptian jihad group Al Yahad
and the Pakistani Scholars Society issue a fatwah under the
heading International Islamic Front for Jahad on Jews and Crusaders
the Faduan structure the Muslims to kill all Americans and.
Speaker 7: Civilians where they can be found nineteen ninety eight.
Speaker 6: Now that's interesting because the Pakistani situation, where does the
country of Pakistan come from? Who set up its intelligence structure? Well,
just so happens that British and Western intelligence helped to
set up and establish the Pakistani ISI, And this of
course was due to well, we got to you know,
we don't want these people being under the influence of
the Soviets.
Speaker 7: So just seems like the Pakistani ISI. Oh, look at that.
Speaker 6: And this is where, of course, many of the Mujahadeen
also have this connection from.
Speaker 7: Pakistan.
Speaker 6: By the way, this of course is pointed to by
many people in regard to the Big Nine event because
the money wired to General Mahmoud of the Pakistani ISI
right before the.
Speaker 7: Big Nine event, that Joe Biden had knowledge of. Do
you remember that?
Speaker 6: Because Joe Biden has been asked about this actually many
times in fact, and it's on a Burmus's channel on
rockfin It always gets buried, but it's probably not on YouTube.
Let mean, we could check real quick and see yea
and of course, yeah, here's one of them. And Luke
shout out to Luke Radowski. Luke actually asked Biden about this,
and of course Biden lied and acted like there isn't
that he never knew that.
Speaker 9: Senator Joseph Biden is the chairman of the Senate Foreign
Relations Committee. He's on Capitol Hills.
Speaker 7: Senator, good morning, Good morning, Brian. How are you.
Speaker 9: I'm fine, thank you, sir. As the President and all
of his administration seeks to build a coalition preparing for
the day when retaliation comes. You had a big meeting
last night. I understand with the head of the Pakistani
Secret Service. What can you tell us of that meeting.
Speaker 4: Well, they're they're they're counterpart to our c I A.
Bryant and uh. It went incredibly well, quite frankly, I
had a long discussions with the State Department and the
Secretary of State.
Speaker 6: And now when asked about this, he says, this never happened, right,
So now, wait a minute, why were you talking to
this guy with this odd connection to the Big nine
event and money getting wired?
Speaker 4: And again.
Speaker 7: Biden is just like, that didn't happen. I don't know
what you're talking about. And I think it's on. We
could try to find Burmus's clueless.
Speaker 11: See transformed not only this country but what he came
howl just investigation into.
Speaker 6: Nine to eleven.
Speaker 7: This is really important.
Speaker 11: I watched those and then Portergoss would be made head
of the CIA. Wow, seems like a big deal. Seems
like something that should have been discussed but never was.
So we're gonna show you that. We're gonna show you
how Pakistan actually protected Bin Laden the night before the
attacks with military personnel at a hospital he was at
in Pakistan. And again nobody seems to notice, nobody seems
to care. We care here. The truth matters, and one
of the reasons is I see this. Okay, over A
had to cut this down to a little under two minutes.
I could have done up to two twenty, but I
didn't want to confuse people. I wanted to focus on
Joe Biden. He's far from the only person that gets
talked about.
Speaker 7: Again.
Speaker 11: Bob Graham admits to the meeting with the money Man
and how he was not shy about his relationship with
the Taliban in the film, this.
Speaker 6: Is the funding of the big non event.
Speaker 11: You understand, we have Colin Powell discussing the Pakistani aspect
of this all killer, no filler. Let's listen to what
Joe Biden has to say right now.
Speaker 5: Senator Joe Biden, who had also met with the head
of the Pakistani ISI, would have harsh words on the
Senate floor, and the words.
Speaker 7: Should go out.
Speaker 4: To those who pretend that they wished to be our friends,
that they're going to have to make some.
Speaker 7: Very difficult choices. Pakistan in particular, he is.
Speaker 4: Going to have to make a very difficult choice very soon.
Words will not be sufficient, Actions will be demanded.
Speaker 5: When Biden was confronted, he confirmed his meeting with him,
then saying Pakistani intelligence was indeed funding the Taliban.
Speaker 10: Question in the days and the days following nine to eleven,
you met with the head of Pakistani Ice Eye General.
Speaker 2: Mohada I met.
Speaker 10: It has since come to light that he ordered Saihi.
Why are one hundred thousand ounce of Manahada Muhammada? Why
was he allowed to go back to Pakistan? And why
was he questioned? And why were you meeting with him?
Speaker 4: I met with him to deliver a message that if
he didn't, if he didn't stop supporting the Taliban, we
would take him out.
Speaker 10: Why did we let him go? We let him fly freely.
We never investigated him, We never even looked into him.
Speaker 4: Look first thing called diplomatic passports. We did not arrest
kruse Chef when he came.
Speaker 10: But he finds the hijackers and you let him go hijacked.
Speaker 7: Hijack would knoww we find it.
Speaker 5: He would later state that the information was indeed classified.
Speaker 7: How did you now he was about the why.
Speaker 4: I was helping the tally Bat.
Speaker 5: Sir Pakistan was set up as the silent funding arm
of the hijackers. They were used as a launching base
for the occupation of Afghanistan.
Speaker 11: And that's the truth. And props to Luke Radowski for
getting that out there and putting him on the spot. Now,
before we show you the click.
Speaker 6: It's almost like Biden would lie. Did you guys, Are
you guys amazed that Joe Biden would lie about just
letting the guy that they knew funded the whole thing.
And then I like how Biden's like I gave him.
Speaker 7: Some tough words. I've delivered a message to him that
is so fake, dude.
Speaker 4: Mister Armitage who had met with him already before I met,
so I knew what had already transpired. And the bottom
line was I told them what they told them. They've
they've got to choose sides. There is no question you're
either our friend or your enemy here and I am
comp Now this.
Speaker 6: Is the CIA's place that they've used to also train
Mujahadin and have as a base facing towards Afghanistan versus
the Soviets. See, Joe gave him what for, like like
Jimmy Stewart and you know the mister Smith goes to Washington, Right,
I'm sure, I'm sure Joe was let to have it.
Speaker 7: Or are they liars?
Speaker 6: And they were perhaps involved and had four knowledge all right,
So getting back to the events of the Big Nine.
By the way, in the history of the Pakistani Isi
in nineteen seventy seven Operation fair Play. The ISI began
collecting intelligence on the Pakistani Communist Party and the People's Party.
The Soviet Afghan War in the nineteen eighties saw the
enhancement of the isised covert operations, that's their intelligence opera
op oparatus specially Afghanistan Section known as the s S
Director was created under the commander Brigadier Mohammad Yusof to
oversee daily operations in Afghanistan. So you see that the
CIA is using Pakistan as a base training Mujahidin.
Speaker 7: To fight in Afghanistan.
Speaker 6: Officers from the ISIS Covered Action Division received training in
the United States, so the ISI is essentially a CIA ally.
Many Covered Actions Action experts the CIA were attached to
the Pakistani IS side and guarding its operations against the
Soviets by using the moujahading Now, which by the way,
calls into question certain interesting events that have been forgotten
like the Mumbai event. Remember the two thousand and six
six Mumbai event and the two thousand and eight Mumbai event.
Speaker 7: Now, if the United.
Speaker 6: States were serious about its war on terror, and I
think this is the big obvious like elephant in the room,
they would have gone after these types of nations and groups. Instead,
none of those groups were targeted or gone after. In fact,
Joe Biden let the guy who funded the whole thing leave.
Speaker 7: Instead. The United States went after Saddam Hussein.
Speaker 6: And all the enemies of Israel in the Middle East
following the open odd Ynon and Lekud plans.
Speaker 7: So what is that like?
Speaker 6: None of the actual groups that we're talking about are
actually shut down in places like Saudi Arabia and Pakistan.
So other interesting events that are probably forgotten in this
terror cavalcade of the nineties. Truck bombs explode in nineteen
ninety eight in Kenya and Tanzania, killing three hundred people,
twelve Americans and five thousand other people wounded. Nineteen ninety eight,
in retaliation for the embassy bombings, the United States launches
cruise missile attacks on terrorist camps in Afghanistan and a
pharmaceutical plant in Sudan supposedly.
Speaker 7: Linked to Bin Laden.
Speaker 6: Now why are we like, we're going after these places
and ignoring the actual hotbeds of Islamic terror and the
terrorists just magically seemed to slip away, get arrested, get
let go, and we can't find al Qaeda. We don't
know where the leaders are, but they can be interviewed
by Western media and CNN and CBS and ABC and
British journalists BBC. They could get interviewed by like the BBC,
but we can't find them. This is how silly this
is and I'm not kidding. That was the story in
the nineties and after the Big nine event. We couldn't
find Bin Laden the hunt for bid Lauden, even though
journalists could at times go and interview him, journalists who
are all intelligence operatives.
Speaker 7: But we can't find We don't know where he is.
He's hiding. He's in the caves of Torah. Bor know
where he is. He's got a fortress he's built underneath
in the cave. Fortress like out of a Bond movie
or something.
Speaker 6: Right in retaliation for the embassy bombings or saw that
in the nineteen ninety eight, US intelligence supposedly thwarts Alcada
in Uganda. Nineteen ninety eight, British authorities arrest al Kata
in London.
Speaker 7: Now, wait a minute.
Speaker 6: If we were gonna stop radical Islam, why wouldn't we
stop Landonistan. Why did London protect and allow and foment
and foster Rashid Aswat and all of these goobers in London.
That's our allies, British intelligence.
Speaker 7: Are they just totally incompetent? Now that's the Norman narrative.
We're good holdies.
Speaker 6: Incompetence people are in the hold These incompetent people who
deacate running are incompetent or they're highly competent, and they
want London to become Landhanistan.
Speaker 7: The Liberals are dumb, these dumb liberal boobs idiots in Washington.
Speaker 6: Nineteen ninety nine, President Clinton imposed his sanctions against the
Taliban because of harboring Ben Laden.
Speaker 12: Oh, some Ben Laden's been harbored in Tai in Afghanistan.
I don't like it one bit, even though I'm gonna
continue to use them against the Serbs the Mobaum coast
of o and I'm gonna use Islamic terror.
Speaker 7: I'm against him.
Speaker 6: Nineteen ninety nine. The United Nations turns against Ben Lauden.
Nineteen ninety nine, The FBI obtains from the Kingdom of
Jordan a six volume manual used by Osama bin Laden
to train out kata I want to see this, Let's
see what the can we get an image of this
that Ben Lauden's collected Works, his sixth volume set.
Speaker 7: I don't know what I mean. There's all these books
with all this like is this is it the.
Speaker 6: The files? Is that the bin Laden files? Or is
it what they call Ben Lawden's bookshelf.
Speaker 7: Now this is something different because that's supposedly the books
that he had on his.
Speaker 6: Shelf when they rated his compound. But if you remember
when the CID classified this one of the