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<v Speaker 1>Day twenty two of the twilight Zone podcast Advent Calendar,

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<v Speaker 1>and Josh Chambers says he's a care ball. Imagine if

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<v Speaker 1>you will, that when Night Gallery debuted on NBC, CBS

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<v Speaker 1>had begun talks to bring back the Twilight Zone for

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<v Speaker 1>the sixth season, seeing how Rod would most likely be

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<v Speaker 1>locked in at NBC. Who would have been your pick

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<v Speaker 1>for a showrunner and or host of a new run

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<v Speaker 1>of twilight Zone, Or would Rod try and leap back

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<v Speaker 1>to CBS, or even crazier, would he have tried to

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<v Speaker 1>have his hands on the throttle of two shows? So wow,

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<v Speaker 1>there's a big hypothetical four year Zach. I mean, it's funny,

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<v Speaker 1>isn't it, Because I think sometimes change is better viewed

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<v Speaker 1>in the rearview mirror, and if you're experiencing it at

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<v Speaker 1>the time, it's quite hard to take. Now looking back,

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<v Speaker 1>you can still have your favorites and stuff. But I

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<v Speaker 1>think of something like Doctor Who you know, where every

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<v Speaker 1>few years it was a new creative team. Every few years,

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<v Speaker 1>it was a new doctor. Now we look back at

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<v Speaker 1>that and yes, we've got our favorite doctors and our

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<v Speaker 1>favorite eras, but we kind of go, yeah, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>that's the show. The show was change, but it's hard

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<v Speaker 1>to apply that to something to some other kind of shows.

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<v Speaker 1>So yeah, I'll be very interested to see you what

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<v Speaker 1>you come up with for this one.

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<v Speaker 2>Zach Well, I definitely don't think he would have tried

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<v Speaker 2>to do both shows because he was already burned out

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<v Speaker 2>during Night Gallery and that's why he didn't have complete

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<v Speaker 2>creative control, which led to the all the all the

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<v Speaker 2>problems in the higher up to the Night Gallery, because

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<v Speaker 2>you know, he's fighting people that had different ideas, but

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<v Speaker 2>he's you know, I think he said to himself, it's

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<v Speaker 2>a young man's game to run these shows, and he

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<v Speaker 2>didn't want to do it, so he definitely would have

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<v Speaker 2>wouldn't have done too. I don't think he would have

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<v Speaker 2>gone back to CBS. I mean, again, so many hypotheticals, right,

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<v Speaker 2>but like he's got contractor's got his name on Night Gallery, right,

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<v Speaker 2>so that's a whole something. Pointed the show star trek

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<v Speaker 2>Fan here. I'm gonna go with Gene Roddenberry should have

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<v Speaker 2>been the showrunner for the new Twilight Zone and would

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<v Speaker 2>he have been the on camera host. I don't know

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<v Speaker 2>about that. Maybe maybe not, I mean maybe they just

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<v Speaker 2>do the voice right, they go back to the season

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<v Speaker 2>one style where we don't see someone on camera. That

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<v Speaker 2>might be best to kind of soften the blow of

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<v Speaker 2>the change. I mean, I've seen lots of interviews with

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<v Speaker 2>Gene Roddenberry. He's a cool voice, like he could have

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<v Speaker 2>done it, write reg ascript and whatnot. But more importantly,

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<v Speaker 2>he had the ideas right, he was a great ideas guy,

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<v Speaker 2>and he could have brought in people that had worked

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<v Speaker 2>on the original series of Star Trek right. As you know,

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<v Speaker 2>it's kind of a kind of a weird snaking itself, right,

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<v Speaker 2>all these writers from Towy Ight Zone went onto Star

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<v Speaker 2>Trek and they could have come back to Twilight Zone.

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<v Speaker 2>And look, I don't know the innocent and outs of

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<v Speaker 2>who was producing TV at the time, right, but to me,

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<v Speaker 2>it's such a logical fit, I know. I mean he

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<v Speaker 2>spent a lot of time, I know, Roddenberry after the

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<v Speaker 2>original series of Star Trek, a lot of time pitching

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<v Speaker 2>all these sci fi shows that never really took off,

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<v Speaker 2>and then ended up doing the The Star Trek the

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<v Speaker 2>Motion Picture, which was originally going to be a Star

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<v Speaker 2>Trek sequel series to begin with. So you know, he's in,

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<v Speaker 2>he's active, he's out there. He's trying to get work,

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<v Speaker 2>so I think he would have been interested in it,

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<v Speaker 2>and I think he could come up with some great ideas.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, because the original series of Star Trek is

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<v Speaker 2>it has been said, and I agree with this, it

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<v Speaker 2>was an anthology show with standing sets. Right, you have

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<v Speaker 2>the same characters, but they're going from planet to planet

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<v Speaker 2>in your new situation, and you just tweak that a

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<v Speaker 2>little bit, right, because some of my favorite Toilet Zone

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<v Speaker 2>episodes are like three astronauts land on a planet. Right,

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<v Speaker 2>you know how many of them are like that? Right?

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<v Speaker 2>And you could do something like that, and you could

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<v Speaker 2>jump all around and I could see him doing it,

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<v Speaker 2>because everything is a response to something else, right, Like

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<v Speaker 2>you know, I mentioned the Star Trek, the motion picture

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<v Speaker 2>that was a response to Star Wars. There was originally

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<v Speaker 2>gonna be a TV show and like, oh no, the

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<v Speaker 2>Star Wars. Well, let's break Star Trek a movie. Right.

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<v Speaker 2>CBSC's Rod stillings doing a Twilight Zone show again. But

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<v Speaker 2>do we have the rights of that still? Bring it back?

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<v Speaker 2>You know? So I mean that's not out of the

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<v Speaker 2>realm of possibility, right, So that would be I know,

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<v Speaker 2>it's kind of an easy choice coming from Star Trek

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<v Speaker 2>fan zach Over, but I think he would be a

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<v Speaker 2>very appropriate fit.

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<v Speaker 1>It would have been a fascinating thing to look at. Absolutely,

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<v Speaker 1>It's like what if Stan Lee wrote Superman, you know

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<v Speaker 1>that kind of thing. It would have been absolutely definitely

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<v Speaker 1>worth a try. I'm probably going with something a little

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<v Speaker 1>bit more obscure. So Rod Sailing wrote Requiem for a Heavyweight,

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<v Speaker 1>which was an episode of Playhouse ninety. It was also

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<v Speaker 1>made into a movie version a couple of years later.

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<v Speaker 1>The original Playhouse ninety had starred Keenan and ed Wynn,

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<v Speaker 1>who were both in the Twilight Zone as like, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>people involved in the boxing world if you like now

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<v Speaker 1>in a really kind of ahead of its time and

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<v Speaker 1>meta a carence. I suppose there was a show, an

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<v Speaker 1>episode of the Westinghouse Desilu Playhouse, which was actually where

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<v Speaker 1>Rod Sailing's proto Twilight Zone face took place the time element.

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<v Speaker 1>It was also an anthology show. But this episode of

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<v Speaker 1>Westinghouse Desilu Playhouse was called The Man in the Funny

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<v Speaker 1>Suit and it was about the relationship of Keenan and

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<v Speaker 1>ed Wynne while they were filming Requiem for a Heavyweight.

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<v Speaker 1>So it was this real world kind of drama based

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<v Speaker 1>on this fiction, and Rod Sailing is in it. He

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<v Speaker 1>has a small role in it and stuff like that,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's an absolutely brilliant piece of television. I would

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<v Speaker 1>recommend anyone trying to find it. But the guy who

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<v Speaker 1>wrote and directed The Man in the Funny Suit was

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<v Speaker 1>a guy called Ralph Nelson. Now he went on to

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<v Speaker 1>be a person in the business of some note, clearly

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<v Speaker 1>a very clever guy. He worked on he directed the

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<v Speaker 1>episode A World of his own, which isn't one of

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<v Speaker 1>my favorite Twilight Zones, but you know, it's all right.

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<v Speaker 1>But you know, he went onto I think some of

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<v Speaker 1>his films One Oscar and so on and so forth,

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<v Speaker 1>and he looks quite a dapper fellow, but just in

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<v Speaker 1>a very different way from Rod Sailing, you know. He's

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<v Speaker 1>a bit more slightly more awesome welsy, you know. So

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<v Speaker 1>it would have been a different take. And I don't

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<v Speaker 1>think any of his other output is particularly Twilight Zone,

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<v Speaker 1>but that doesn't mean he couldn't do it if he

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<v Speaker 1>turns his attention to it. So I think it would

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<v Speaker 1>have been an interesting choice, you know, And maybe it

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<v Speaker 1>would have crashed and banned. And that's the thing. It

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<v Speaker 1>could have crashed and banned with Rodenberry. It could have

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<v Speaker 1>crashed and banded with anyone because people just wouldn't accept it.

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<v Speaker 1>But I think, yeah, Ralph Nelson would have been an

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<v Speaker 1>interesting shout to take on the show.