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<v Speaker 1>It's that time of the month. Time to get h

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<v Speaker 1>A U D.

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<v Speaker 2>It's the Hard Foundation Bonus episode. We're the O hosts,

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<v Speaker 2>the Major King, met Codona, Maximum Endment, Brian Myers.

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<v Speaker 1>And up the Silverables himself slock Clock Star. Welcome everyone

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<v Speaker 1>to the October Bonus episode four Hard Foundation members only

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<v Speaker 1>live on our Patreon. I am your moderator for this evening,

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<v Speaker 1>Smart Mark Sterling Esquire, and I'm joined by the former

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<v Speaker 1>Edgeheads or the Edge Triplets as Dan Hausen will call

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<v Speaker 1>you first, and.

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<v Speaker 3>The easy to think that you know me, I still

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<v Speaker 3>get I don't know. It resonates with me when I

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<v Speaker 3>hear that. That's all I gotta say.

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<v Speaker 1>Hell, who are you? Who does it as a name with?

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<v Speaker 3>I guess since I spoke first, I'll introduce myself first.

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<v Speaker 3>I am the most professional wrestler, Impact Wrestling Star and

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<v Speaker 3>the Scottie Pippen of Wrestling figure, collecting in the one

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<v Speaker 3>time half one half of the youngest ww techting champions

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<v Speaker 3>in the history of the business.

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<v Speaker 4>Brian Myers, what's up?

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<v Speaker 1>Nobody's nobody's been younger.

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<v Speaker 5>I think there is there is an asterisk next to that.

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<v Speaker 4>We'll talk about that.

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<v Speaker 5>But I am the other Edgehead always ready, Matt Carr

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<v Speaker 5>doing O What's up?

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<v Speaker 1>Mark? What's up? Guys? All right, So again like we've

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<v Speaker 1>been doing. If you're listening to this now go back

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<v Speaker 1>listen to the other episodes if you haven't heard them,

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<v Speaker 1>we start from the very beginnings of their career in

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<v Speaker 1>different Q and A episodes. We spend three episodes on

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<v Speaker 1>their developmental time. Last episode was about their time in

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<v Speaker 1>the Edgeheads. Now we're doing post edge edge Heads for

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<v Speaker 1>about that year. We ask you, guys, questions from the

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<v Speaker 1>Hard Foundation members. So if you're a Hard Fundation member

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<v Speaker 1>and you didn't ask a question, you you're missing out.

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<v Speaker 4>Can I give a little follow up?

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<v Speaker 1>Sure?

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<v Speaker 5>So in one of the earlier, earlier episodes, we were

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<v Speaker 5>discussing NYWC and becoming the nyw C Tag Team Champions,

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<v Speaker 5>and I don't know if I said it in that episode,

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<v Speaker 5>but I have said it before that I've been trying

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<v Speaker 5>to track down that NYWC Tag Team title and somebody

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<v Speaker 5>who has it contacted.

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<v Speaker 4>Me on Twitter.

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<v Speaker 5>Former NYWC Tag Team Champion Sither. I believe it is

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<v Speaker 5>his name, Syther Cither Syther, He's a wrestling trainer now

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<v Speaker 5>in Florida. And he kind of offered it to me.

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<v Speaker 5>I don't want to get into the the details of

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<v Speaker 5>the offer, but I had to decline, Oh two price.

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<v Speaker 5>It wasn't a price, it was more like a favor,

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<v Speaker 5>and I still had to decline.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh, meet and greet.

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<v Speaker 5>I had to decline what it was and.

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<v Speaker 1>It was a seminar because you hate.

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<v Speaker 3>Definitely yeah, hates helping the you know, current I actually

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<v Speaker 3>think i'd be great not remember Taz had that finishing school.

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<v Speaker 4>I think we should be like Broski's finishing schools. Finishing school.

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<v Speaker 5>I couldn't teach how Brian has the patience he could teach.

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<v Speaker 5>I could not teach somebody how to lock up, you know.

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<v Speaker 5>I couldn't teach somebody how to grab a headlock. I

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<v Speaker 5>could I could watch a match.

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<v Speaker 3>For whatever reason, people have shows. People just didn't show up, injuries, sicknesses, whatever,

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<v Speaker 3>great upro my class. There was two kids and then

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<v Speaker 3>Max Caster rolled through. So these two kids, literally kids

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<v Speaker 3>who've like had you know, never had a match, probably

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<v Speaker 3>had the training session of a lifetime.

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<v Speaker 4>Well there you go.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean did drills with me and Castor for an hour,

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<v Speaker 3>worked us on the fly and the tag match I

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<v Speaker 3>mean like a i'd say, an invaluable learning experience.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I feel like Brian Uh, you know, as a

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<v Speaker 1>student for a couple of years, Brian's way of dealing

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<v Speaker 1>with the impatience of the headlock and all that stuff

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<v Speaker 1>is like, Brian, I feel like you're really good at

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<v Speaker 1>like seeing who cares and who wants it and all

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<v Speaker 1>that stuff, and the people that don't You just kind

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<v Speaker 1>of like that's.

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<v Speaker 4>The doctor Tom and me.

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<v Speaker 3>Doctor I feel like Doctr Tom could just read a

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<v Speaker 3>guy like this guy cares, this guy has passion, and

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<v Speaker 3>then if you didn't like same as what you're saying,

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<v Speaker 3>Like if you didn't, he wasn't gonna like pick on you,

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<v Speaker 3>bully you.

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<v Speaker 4>He's just not gonna give a fuck about you.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, Yeah, nice role, Let's move on.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, there you go. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 5>I think that's why we succeeded so well at n

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<v Speaker 5>YWC and in Deep South is because Mikey and Bill

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<v Speaker 5>and Dave Taylor too, and doctor Tom uh saw that

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<v Speaker 5>we did care.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah sure, and our care was like genuine.

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<v Speaker 5>And not bullshit like I'm gonna do this better coach,

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<v Speaker 5>like obviously.

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<v Speaker 3>Brown knows you know, thing Like God, I always remember

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<v Speaker 3>in obw if Al Snow made any fucking lame ass joke,

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<v Speaker 3>sure is enough.

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<v Speaker 4>You could set your watch to it.

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<v Speaker 3>Brad Jake the first one, belly laughing like like Dave

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<v Speaker 3>Chappelle was up there doing a routine like you can say,

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<v Speaker 3>you watch too. It just brown nosy like kiss that

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<v Speaker 3>ship like that like that. That's not what we did.

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<v Speaker 3>We just truly like really loved wrestling and like kind

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<v Speaker 3>of couldn't get enough, you know.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, So, like I said, we asked uh the

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<v Speaker 1>Heart fundage members to ask questions to us.

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<v Speaker 5>But I haven't heard that thing that just popped my head. Okay,

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<v Speaker 5>do we record these videos as videos?

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, but I haven't been putting them up.

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<v Speaker 5>We never used it, right, But like, why why doesn't

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<v Speaker 5>d Freedom take like sound bites and making social clips

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<v Speaker 5>that people are like, oh, I should download the pod

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<v Speaker 5>to hear the whole.

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<v Speaker 4>Thing, become a page. I should become a patren.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, we should do that. There's some cool shit awesome

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<v Speaker 5>because he makes great videos. Why not do it for

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<v Speaker 5>these bonus ones?

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<v Speaker 1>You want me to put the video up of these? Well,

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<v Speaker 1>the actual problem was we did a lot of these

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<v Speaker 1>like in the car, you know, so there was no videos.

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<v Speaker 5>It's I'm not saying you have to put it up

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<v Speaker 5>for YouTube. I'm just saying, like so deep even can

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<v Speaker 5>make the the video to put up on social sure

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<v Speaker 5>if we if we have it, why not put up

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<v Speaker 5>on video?

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<v Speaker 4>Right for the.

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<v Speaker 1>Patriots, there's some unreal clips. I'm saying some things in

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<v Speaker 1>some of those old episodes. A, well, we have to

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<v Speaker 1>stuff from away. Sorry, let's set the stage before I

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<v Speaker 1>even get to their questions. Edgeheads break up. Tell me

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<v Speaker 1>what what happens?

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<v Speaker 4>Well, we never break up, Okay, that's what That's why

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<v Speaker 4>it's so confusing.

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<v Speaker 5>He loses at Summer Slam, goes what year are we talking,

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<v Speaker 5>gets choked slammed through the ring, I believe, right, and

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<v Speaker 5>there's flames.

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<v Speaker 4>He's like dead, he's in Hans.

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<v Speaker 3>And I don't know about you, but all I remember

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<v Speaker 3>is being backstage talking to him and saying goodbye, and

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<v Speaker 3>he smelt burnt.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't remember that because like he.

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<v Speaker 3>Choked slams through the ring, he disappears and Undertaker is

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<v Speaker 3>the thing, and like Pyro comes up from it. So

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<v Speaker 3>he's very close to this Pyro fire and then like

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<v Speaker 3>he's like the little bit of body hair as he

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<v Speaker 3>had were like sings and you could like smelt burnt

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<v Speaker 3>and we were like saying thank you and goodbye to

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<v Speaker 3>and like whatever.

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<v Speaker 1>It's probably like burnt hair.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah it was.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 5>At that point, we are still the tag team champions.

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<v Speaker 5>We had won them at Great American Bash, I believe,

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<v Speaker 5>yep on Long Island, and I remember, you know, I

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<v Speaker 5>don't know if we talked to this last episode. I

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<v Speaker 5>remember sitting in the bleach. Of course, you're hoping you're

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<v Speaker 5>gonna win the titles. Of course we were sitting in

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<v Speaker 5>the bleachers and whoever told us we were winning, like inside,

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<v Speaker 5>I was like, yes, but.

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<v Speaker 3>I had to play it so cool. Yeah, I think

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<v Speaker 3>it was I think it was Findley. We were just like, okay,

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<v Speaker 3>sounds good, sir, thank you.

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<v Speaker 5>I feel like it it's either Hazer or or or

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<v Speaker 5>Friendly Senator. So we are the champions.

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<v Speaker 4>I said this bore.

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<v Speaker 5>We never actually got proper name plates. We just had

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<v Speaker 5>paper name plates and they never real name plates.

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<v Speaker 4>You can't tell on TV tell on TV.

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<v Speaker 3>I was happy when we got him Richie from Magic

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<v Speaker 3>and I remember this, he touched them up. Yeah, live

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<v Speaker 3>event ones at least he like touched them up, so

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<v Speaker 3>looked nice in pristine, like he and painted all the

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<v Speaker 3>blue detailing.

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<v Speaker 4>In it and whatever. I thought that was pretty cool

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<v Speaker 4>to see.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, so so edges out. I thought it was an injury,

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<v Speaker 5>but you said it was like personal time.

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<v Speaker 3>I know for a fact he said he went to

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<v Speaker 3>Vince and said, I'd like to have some vacation time

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<v Speaker 3>where like my neck's not in a goddamn neck brace

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<v Speaker 3>or my you know, my leg is broken.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, I'm not saying that it's not sure. I

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<v Speaker 4>just don't remember it that way. That's fine if you

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<v Speaker 4>think about it.

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<v Speaker 3>That was basically year that he went went so far

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<v Speaker 3>on top, as the top in every way.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, so we're kind of like, I want to say,

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<v Speaker 5>we're worried, but I also think at the same time

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<v Speaker 5>where everything's just going so great for us.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean like at this at this point, it don't

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<v Speaker 4>recall me worried at all.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, Like we're the tag team champions, like we did

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<v Speaker 5>the run in at Mania, just going to come back.

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<v Speaker 5>We have that big edgehead three way next Mania, it

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<v Speaker 5>doesn't happen. I remember Primo debuts like he's on Raw

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<v Speaker 5>and then all of a sudden comes to SmackDown. We

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<v Speaker 5>do uh impromptu like match and we lose.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, I have another poun memory about this day, and

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<v Speaker 3>this might spark remember for you that day. Originally we're

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<v Speaker 3>the tag champs and on SmackDown we're supposed to like

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<v Speaker 3>squash like Funaki and like Jimmy Yang or something like

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<v Speaker 3>a straight up squash match like run through these dudes.

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<v Speaker 3>That was that when they come out of the first meeting,

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<v Speaker 3>that's what it was. We started putting together. They come

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<v Speaker 3>out of the next me and they're like, oh no,

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<v Speaker 3>Primo's gonna debut with Carlito wasn't doing anything.

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<v Speaker 4>Carlor was never on the show.

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<v Speaker 3>He had been drafted, like in the previous night, he

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<v Speaker 3>had never been on his hair. They like made him

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<v Speaker 3>take the bread the braids out. He never wore those

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<v Speaker 3>on TV. He went back to like old school Carlito.

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<v Speaker 3>And they're like they're putting them together and they're beating

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<v Speaker 3>you guys in a tag match, and we were like,

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<v Speaker 3>exqueeze me baking powder. We were like, what, like just

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<v Speaker 3>it's just then, But that's honestly, that's like one of

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<v Speaker 3>if if you work there, you know that's like, so

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<v Speaker 3>that's typical.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, so typical.

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<v Speaker 3>So that's what happened, and we had a match with them,

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<v Speaker 3>and they they're great, They are awesome workers and so

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<v Speaker 3>fun to work with. Both both those guys are tremendous

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<v Speaker 3>and so we just did that. We put them over

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<v Speaker 3>non title. The following week we have uh Carle Leader's

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<v Speaker 3>Cabana and Freddie Prince Junior wrote the segment I remember,

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<v Speaker 3>and he was really pumped.

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<v Speaker 4>He said, like, everyone did a great job.

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<v Speaker 3>And then we had the title match following week and

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<v Speaker 3>we lose, and that it's basically it for us.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, now when you say that, what do you mean

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<v Speaker 1>by that?

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<v Speaker 4>What do you do?

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<v Speaker 1>Never a period that we're doing this episode.

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<v Speaker 5>This is like October September, September October this time period

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<v Speaker 1>And then for the next year through two thousand.

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<v Speaker 5>No no week then, so then it's we're still being

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<v Speaker 3>They never tell us it's over. Really, I mean, we

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<v Speaker 5>But remember I remember one of us. I believe it's you.

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<v Speaker 5>You're supposed to wrestle kung fu naky, either in a

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<v Speaker 5>dark match or a segue match. A segway match is

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<v Speaker 5>e CW used to be taped after SmackDown or before SmackDown,

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<v Speaker 5>depending on where it was in the you know, in

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<v Speaker 5>the country with the time zones. So like while they're

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<v Speaker 5>switching the aprons and stuff like that, they would have

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<v Speaker 5>a match just like go on there as they're like

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<v Speaker 5>switching the fucking aprons.

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<v Speaker 4>It was meeting.

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<v Speaker 5>It was just so like the people had something to

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, weird, but nowadays they just do it.

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<v Speaker 1>Do it so quick. There's a video.

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<v Speaker 4>They play videos. Yeah, just play videos, you don't need matches. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 5>So I remember Johnny Ace tells us that either somewhere

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<v Speaker 5>we're gonna meet with Vince, like today, so whoa okay,

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<v Speaker 5>So I just remember sitting outside his office like forever,

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<v Speaker 5>and everybody like walking by and asked, like what we're doing,

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<v Speaker 5>because like everyone knows that you're sitting outside Vince's office.

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<v Speaker 5>I always hated that feeling, even like when you're doing

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<v Speaker 5>it like on your own, you know, like whatever. We

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<v Speaker 5>finally go in and you might remember but this differently

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<v Speaker 5>than I do. But I long story short. I remember

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<v Speaker 5>him saying, like, you guys are done as a team,

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<v Speaker 5>and we're gonna do things with you individually, and we're

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<v Speaker 5>gonna bring you both to Stanford and come up with

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<v Speaker 5>new ideas for you guys as single stars. And it

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<v Speaker 5>wasn't like it wasn't a negative necessarily.

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<v Speaker 3>Not being a bad talk at all, just like we

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<v Speaker 3>think it's run its course as a team and we're

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<v Speaker 3>gonna slit you up and see what you can do

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<v Speaker 3>as as singles wrestlers. That's all right, so cool, like

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<v Speaker 3>at least we know what's going on. That sounds great,

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<v Speaker 3>and then that just never ever happens.

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<v Speaker 1>Never let me let me ask you a question here,

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<v Speaker 1>let me butt in here, Brian, you hear this? Uh

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<v Speaker 1>where is your headspace at? Like are you excited? Like

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<v Speaker 1>I don't.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, we both were like cool, that's what vincing man slence,

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<v Speaker 3>that's what's gonna happen, you know. I mean, so you

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<v Speaker 3>thought like, okay, and that's this is what the next

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<v Speaker 3>you know, evolution of our career is. But then like

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<v Speaker 3>it was hard to like sink your teeth into and

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<v Speaker 3>get those wheelspin because then you show up next week

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<v Speaker 3>and it's like, okay, you have a tag magic these

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<v Speaker 3>guys just jobbing. Okay, next week you have a tag

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<v Speaker 3>munch of these guys and you're jobbing.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh.

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<v Speaker 3>One time we showed up thinking we were doing nothing

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<v Speaker 3>and we wrestled the Triple H and Jeff Hardy on SmackDown.

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<v Speaker 5>First of all that day, shit like that like that,

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<v Speaker 5>like first of all that day. We weren't even supposed

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<v Speaker 5>to be there. We just drove because it was Albany.

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<v Speaker 5>It was a drive from Long Island. We just showed

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<v Speaker 5>up and all of suden, we're wrestling Jeff Harty at

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<v Speaker 5>Triple H.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, you know.

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<v Speaker 3>This was also this very crazy time period in the

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<v Speaker 3>company where they like cheaped out and they did two

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<v Speaker 3>Smacked On TVs a month, and they would do two episodes.

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<v Speaker 3>They were like a double taping. And so if you

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<v Speaker 3>weren't on live inns, which we were no longer on

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<v Speaker 3>live events once we lost the belts, we would only

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<v Speaker 3>work two days out of an entire month.

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<v Speaker 5>That's that's one thousand dollars a month.

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<v Speaker 4>And that's five hundred shot.

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<v Speaker 3>I means we made one thousand dollars a month for

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<v Speaker 3>like basically September October November, December, January, February of oh wait,

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<v Speaker 3>beginning about nine but.

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<v Speaker 5>Also but also in this time before, but before like

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<v Speaker 5>we really had taken off the road, we were still

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<v Speaker 5>doing things like by ourselves, and like that's kind of

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<v Speaker 5>where like the Woo Woo and all that bs started

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<v Speaker 5>and we were doing it on like Morrison and Missus

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<v Speaker 5>Dirt Sheet, we were doing on a Col Cabanas show.

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<v Speaker 4>So like like we're always trying to move right.

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<v Speaker 5>We knew that even while we were the edgeheads, that

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<v Speaker 5>people just saw us as the edge guys. As Sean

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<v Speaker 5>Michaels would say, nobody knew who Zach Ryder was, nobody

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<v Speaker 5>who Kurt Hawkins was. You'd be like walking down the

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<v Speaker 5>hall like by yourself and someone were like, hey, guys,

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<v Speaker 5>but it's only me. There's that you know, nobody knew

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<v Speaker 5>who we were, so we we had to be separate

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<v Speaker 5>and look different, and that's why eventually.

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<v Speaker 3>My favorite was when Charlie has started his supplement company

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<v Speaker 3>and he's pitching Brosky so hard, talking to like they're

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<v Speaker 3>best friends.

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<v Speaker 4>Then he's like, you know, and then he.

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<v Speaker 3>Had to like so obviously look at his boots and

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<v Speaker 3>be like rider like he had no idea what his

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<v Speaker 3>name was, like get out of here.

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<v Speaker 4>So it was definitely like a weird time.

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<v Speaker 5>This is also the time where we're on that that

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<v Speaker 5>tour of Mexico with the Undertaker head snap and the

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<v Speaker 5>cell phone, and that's the real kiss of death. Not

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<v Speaker 5>like not proven though, no no, no, no, not proven at all,

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<v Speaker 5>but like that I felt like, yeah, it felt like it.

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<v Speaker 5>And if you don't know that story of the story

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<v Speaker 5>goes this is this is pre social media, pre iPhones,

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<v Speaker 5>where like everyone was supposed to be at the monitor.

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<v Speaker 5>Nowadays people don't even watch about it. People leave early.

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<v Speaker 5>I'm not saying that's right or wrong, but back in

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<v Speaker 5>the day, you were supposed to watch the monitor. Fuck

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<v Speaker 5>how many nights in a row did we see Triple

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<v Speaker 5>HROs Vladimir Kaslow. That's not an excuses the truth though,

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<v Speaker 5>And like we got out our cell phones.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 5>I was probably texting my girlfri at the time. Who

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<v Speaker 5>knows we were doing? And Undertaker does that the head snap.

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<v Speaker 3>I've always pleaded partially innocent in this. I swear to god,

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<v Speaker 3>I was sitting there watching kus Off and Triple H

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<v Speaker 3>for the fourth night in a row, just eyeballs leading,

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<v Speaker 3>and I went to check the time. I literally just

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<v Speaker 3>pulled my phone out and went like this, and I hear, god,

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<v Speaker 3>damn it. And then I looked down the row and

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<v Speaker 3>it's like Brosky clearly texting it, and Shelton Benjamin clearly

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<v Speaker 3>texting like in a row with me, and we all

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<v Speaker 3>kind of oh shit, and take her cut this whole

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<v Speaker 3>promo about you know, you know you gotta want to

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<v Speaker 3>watch the man. I mean, he's right, it's like a

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<v Speaker 3>veteran old school thing, totally respect thing or whatever.

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<v Speaker 5>And Mark Henry pulls his side, says, we need to apologist.

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<v Speaker 5>Take her, take her super cool about it, says we

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<v Speaker 5>need to apologize to the guys in the main event.

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<v Speaker 5>I don't even know if we wented to Bladerber cause

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<v Speaker 5>Off did.

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<v Speaker 3>He was. He's like our buddy from DePaul. He's to

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<v Speaker 3>drive us around like hang out.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, but I'll never forget going to apologist. Triple Achu

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<v Speaker 5>doesn't know what we did, so we.

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<v Speaker 4>Have to like stool ourselves off.

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<v Speaker 5>Oh it's his private dress room. Uh Hunter, sorry, we

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<v Speaker 5>were on our phones during your match.

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<v Speaker 4>And he like played off like he didn't care. But

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<v Speaker 4>I don't think he really did care.

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<v Speaker 5>No, no, but like it's none of this stuff did

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<v Speaker 5>us any favors.

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<v Speaker 1>So what makes you think it was a kiss of death?

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<v Speaker 1>Like you just start I just.

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<v Speaker 4>Spell like that because like we had just lost the belts.

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<v Speaker 3>We never really got booked again after this, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>because yeah, because then it was like where we weren't

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<v Speaker 3>Taker cut this weird like we had like the post

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<v Speaker 3>uh tour, like locker room toast where like normally everyone says.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh, a great too, or a great job, but this

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<v Speaker 4>this one Taker.

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<v Speaker 3>Cut this like weird promo that like houses are down

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<v Speaker 3>and we all have to like shape up and be

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<v Speaker 3>at our best and kind of thing. It's just like

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<v Speaker 3>a little it was I don't know, it was a

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<v Speaker 3>lot yeah once, I guess.

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<v Speaker 5>And like Brian said, like you know, we were we were

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<v Speaker 5>just getting brought to random TVs to like Wrestle the

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<v Speaker 5>Great Colleen a handicap match over Finelli and Hornswaggle.

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<v Speaker 3>A Battle Royal, Like we just kept being booked, like

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<v Speaker 3>we were never unbooked, and we'd say, like, what about

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<v Speaker 3>what we talked about and then even we might have

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<v Speaker 3>talked about this, we had we finally made them make

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<v Speaker 3>that appointment for us to go up to Stanford.

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<v Speaker 4>Right.

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<v Speaker 5>We we filmed something with my cousin, Geographena. It's on YouTube.

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<v Speaker 5>We put it up there before where it's like, I

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<v Speaker 5>don't know why we kept pitching it Hawkins and Riders up,

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<v Speaker 5>but we were because we realized they weren't doing the

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<v Speaker 5>individual stuff and so we were trying to.

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<v Speaker 3>We were I don't think we either one of us

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<v Speaker 3>thought we were ready, like we were still comfortable, like

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<v Speaker 3>we were just I thought we were honestly, literally, I

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<v Speaker 3>thought we were just clicking as a team as they

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<v Speaker 3>wanted to break us up kind of thing, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>just becoming you know, not green boys, and you know,

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<v Speaker 3>on our way to becoming polished wrestlers, you know.

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<v Speaker 4>And I still I still feel that way, sure.

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<v Speaker 5>And and the video is up on our YouTube channel

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<v Speaker 5>where it's essentially just me being the woo woo annoying

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<v Speaker 5>over the top guy, and Brian is more like putting

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<v Speaker 5>his hands in his face, like you know, hands in

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<v Speaker 5>his hands, his pomp, his face is palm like just

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<v Speaker 5>so like fed up, just pull off over the top.

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<v Speaker 3>Guy in the straight guy like classic you know, comedy

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<v Speaker 3>one on one routine.

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<v Speaker 4>And either way you would just know.

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<v Speaker 5>Okay, it was just a better way to separate Hawkins

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<v Speaker 5>and Rider, because we're just two guys who kind of

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<v Speaker 5>look like in the trunks and the the trunks and

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<v Speaker 5>the long tights weren't the big enough difference. Weren't being

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<v Speaker 5>a big enough difference.

429
00:18:55.839 --> 00:18:57.960
<v Speaker 3>Also, at this time, Edge comes back of that Survivor

430
00:18:58.039 --> 00:19:00.440
<v Speaker 3>series and like wins the belt right like the first night,

431
00:19:00.440 --> 00:19:02.480
<v Speaker 3>and I'm like, oh, we're back together, and he's like,

432
00:19:02.519 --> 00:19:04.200
<v Speaker 3>I think we might be. I remember him saying that too,

433
00:19:04.200 --> 00:19:05.839
<v Speaker 3>where I thought like, Okay, we're just gonna roll back

434
00:19:05.839 --> 00:19:06.559
<v Speaker 3>into a lot familiar.

435
00:19:06.720 --> 00:19:08.319
<v Speaker 4>At one point I thought that was the case.

436
00:19:08.880 --> 00:19:09.519
<v Speaker 1>It never happened.

437
00:19:09.960 --> 00:19:12.119
<v Speaker 3>Vicky came and told us that too, and I was like, oh, okay,

438
00:19:12.759 --> 00:19:14.279
<v Speaker 3>so this is really we're really not going to do

439
00:19:14.279 --> 00:19:14.960
<v Speaker 3>this singles thing.

440
00:19:15.799 --> 00:19:22.440
<v Speaker 1>So Edge was only off from summer salaminous Survivor series. Yes, okay,

441
00:19:22.480 --> 00:19:25.079
<v Speaker 1>so real quick, Brian, what were you in your mind?

442
00:19:26.839 --> 00:19:28.720
<v Speaker 1>Oh crap, I have to do a singles run? What

443
00:19:28.720 --> 00:19:32.240
<v Speaker 1>what's like the first thought? Are you are you landing

444
00:19:32.279 --> 00:19:33.960
<v Speaker 1>on this Prince of Queen's thing at all?

445
00:19:34.240 --> 00:19:36.519
<v Speaker 4>No? Not even close. I don't remember. I just I

446
00:19:36.599 --> 00:19:38.799
<v Speaker 4>was still so green and still trying to find myself.

447
00:19:38.799 --> 00:19:39.200
<v Speaker 4>I had no.

448
00:19:39.400 --> 00:19:41.319
<v Speaker 3>It was so far from my mind. And like when

449
00:19:41.359 --> 00:19:43.480
<v Speaker 3>Vince said it was so sprung on me that I

450
00:19:43.519 --> 00:19:45.319
<v Speaker 3>had no. I wasn't even thinking about it. You know,

451
00:19:45.359 --> 00:19:48.119
<v Speaker 3>I wasn't even planning it. I had I had nothing.

452
00:19:48.160 --> 00:19:52.759
<v Speaker 1>Really, you know that, BROSI you've had this club guy

453
00:19:53.319 --> 00:19:53.799
<v Speaker 1>in your head.

454
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<v Speaker 5>Well, you know, it started off as just being like

455
00:19:56.759 --> 00:19:59.440
<v Speaker 5>the annoying guy, but then like I knew, I wanted

456
00:19:59.440 --> 00:20:01.640
<v Speaker 5>to cut my hand and blah blah blah blah. And

457
00:20:01.759 --> 00:20:04.319
<v Speaker 5>even the beginning of two thousand and nine, you know,

458
00:20:04.400 --> 00:20:07.079
<v Speaker 5>whether they're not bringing us or you know, for instance,

459
00:20:07.079 --> 00:20:11.359
<v Speaker 5>like we're in that that WrestleMania Lumberjack is like Hawkins

460
00:20:11.400 --> 00:20:13.640
<v Speaker 5>and Rider guys. You know, like we're still a team.

461
00:20:13.720 --> 00:20:17.160
<v Speaker 5>Then at WrestleMania, you know, in theory we might even

462
00:20:17.200 --> 00:20:18.240
<v Speaker 5>have had an access match.

463
00:20:18.279 --> 00:20:21.200
<v Speaker 4>Maybe not. I'm not quite sure. That's the fame? Are

464
00:20:21.200 --> 00:20:24.319
<v Speaker 4>you kidding me? That's the famous that's yeah.

465
00:20:24.079 --> 00:20:28.720
<v Speaker 5>Oh Jesus Christ. Okay, so we have it. We haven't

466
00:20:28.759 --> 00:20:33.839
<v Speaker 5>had matches as a team. Okay, so now singles matches,

467
00:20:33.960 --> 00:20:36.119
<v Speaker 5>I haven't I want to say, I want to say

468
00:20:36.240 --> 00:20:36.640
<v Speaker 5>for it.

469
00:20:37.319 --> 00:20:39.200
<v Speaker 3>In like oh nine, we're just like flat out like

470
00:20:39.319 --> 00:20:41.799
<v Speaker 3>not brought to TVs unless we can drive to them.

471
00:20:41.839 --> 00:20:45.119
<v Speaker 3>So that's like a lot of not wrestling. I've always

472
00:20:45.160 --> 00:20:47.039
<v Speaker 3>had this thing. I mean, maybe it's from like my

473
00:20:47.079 --> 00:20:49.440
<v Speaker 3>sports background, but I love the mark got attest to this,

474
00:20:49.480 --> 00:20:50.079
<v Speaker 3>like for my school.

475
00:20:50.119 --> 00:20:50.920
<v Speaker 4>I just love training.

476
00:20:50.960 --> 00:20:53.119
<v Speaker 3>I just I enjoy it makes me feel better, it

477
00:20:53.119 --> 00:20:55.440
<v Speaker 3>makes my body feel better, it makes me feel like mentally.

478
00:20:55.200 --> 00:20:58.200
<v Speaker 4>Sharper about wrestling. I don't know what it is. I

479
00:20:58.319 --> 00:20:59.240
<v Speaker 4>do not like to miss.

480
00:21:00.039 --> 00:21:01.799
<v Speaker 3>I have to wrestle one day a week every week

481
00:21:01.960 --> 00:21:04.039
<v Speaker 3>to stay where I want to stay. If I miss

482
00:21:04.039 --> 00:21:06.400
<v Speaker 3>a week, which happens sometimes time, I hate it. So

483
00:21:06.480 --> 00:21:07.720
<v Speaker 3>when we were off at all this time, I was

484
00:21:07.759 --> 00:21:11.519
<v Speaker 3>constantly going down ywc, rolling around whatever, doing everything I could,

485
00:21:11.559 --> 00:21:12.279
<v Speaker 3>always in the ring.

486
00:21:12.880 --> 00:21:15.039
<v Speaker 4>So we get called for Mania a week whatever.

487
00:21:15.079 --> 00:21:17.759
<v Speaker 3>We have all these responsibilities, access signing, access matches, and

488
00:21:17.759 --> 00:21:20.599
<v Speaker 3>we're eventually going to be lumberjacks on the kickoff thing

489
00:21:20.680 --> 00:21:21.200
<v Speaker 3>or whatever it was.

490
00:21:21.200 --> 00:21:22.319
<v Speaker 4>I barely I don't even remember.

491
00:21:22.839 --> 00:21:27.319
<v Speaker 3>But uh so, for whatever reason, the access match was

492
00:21:27.839 --> 00:21:32.559
<v Speaker 3>Broski versus Charlie Haas with me as the valet is

493
00:21:32.720 --> 00:21:35.079
<v Speaker 3>in during the day, maybe like a five o'clock session

494
00:21:35.160 --> 00:21:38.000
<v Speaker 3>the eight o'clock was me vers Jimmy Wang Yang. I

495
00:21:38.039 --> 00:21:42.920
<v Speaker 3>was like, okay, cool, and then Broski and Charlie Hass

496
00:21:42.920 --> 00:21:47.680
<v Speaker 3>proceed to have this like epic match that I've talked

497
00:21:47.680 --> 00:21:50.720
<v Speaker 3>about with the boys for just years since it's happened.

498
00:21:50.720 --> 00:21:53.079
<v Speaker 5>I mean, listen, I was so blown up. And I'm

499
00:21:53.079 --> 00:21:54.759
<v Speaker 5>not making an excuse, but I was. I was so

500
00:21:54.839 --> 00:21:57.079
<v Speaker 5>blown up. I almost injury in there.

501
00:21:58.200 --> 00:22:01.039
<v Speaker 1>Charlie's the funniest part spaked in injury.

502
00:22:01.200 --> 00:22:04.279
<v Speaker 3>Charlie is in the same boat, except opposite mindset. Like

503
00:22:04.279 --> 00:22:06.160
<v Speaker 3>Brosky's like, oh shit, I haven't wrestled, I don't want

504
00:22:06.160 --> 00:22:07.920
<v Speaker 3>to do a loast stuff. Charlie's going he hasn't been

505
00:22:07.960 --> 00:22:09.960
<v Speaker 3>booked either on the raw side, and he's mad and

506
00:22:10.000 --> 00:22:13.200
<v Speaker 3>wants to like just go and like give it his all.

507
00:22:13.319 --> 00:22:16.799
<v Speaker 3>And it's in his like hometown basically, so his family

508
00:22:16.839 --> 00:22:17.799
<v Speaker 3>was there, and he's like pretty.

509
00:22:17.759 --> 00:22:20.640
<v Speaker 5>A video camera is recording of this somewhere.

510
00:22:20.359 --> 00:22:23.359
<v Speaker 3>Like click click camp, and he like he like wanted

511
00:22:23.400 --> 00:22:26.359
<v Speaker 3>to go in, and Broskey's like okay and doesn't shut

512
00:22:26.400 --> 00:22:29.039
<v Speaker 3>down Anyways, Charlie asked back then especially was pretty scary

513
00:22:29.599 --> 00:22:31.759
<v Speaker 3>and like, uh, you know, Brosceley doesn't shut down. One

514
00:22:31.799 --> 00:22:34.480
<v Speaker 3>idea goes with everything, and I'm out there with the

515
00:22:34.480 --> 00:22:37.200
<v Speaker 3>best seat in the house, just like holy shit, because

516
00:22:37.240 --> 00:22:39.440
<v Speaker 3>I could just tell, knowing how well I know him,

517
00:22:39.480 --> 00:22:40.039
<v Speaker 3>that he's done.

518
00:22:40.160 --> 00:22:42.680
<v Speaker 4>He's physically exhausted, and they have.

519
00:22:42.839 --> 00:22:46.240
<v Speaker 5>Like been like wasn't even like only my lungs like

520
00:22:46.359 --> 00:22:46.920
<v Speaker 5>giving out.

521
00:22:47.240 --> 00:22:49.640
<v Speaker 4>It was the legs, dude, what your legs go? You're done.

522
00:22:50.000 --> 00:22:52.400
<v Speaker 3>So like I see Brosky as his hold on and

523
00:22:52.400 --> 00:22:53.599
<v Speaker 3>they aven't got to the comeback again.

524
00:22:53.640 --> 00:22:54.240
<v Speaker 4>I'm like, he's done.

525
00:22:54.319 --> 00:22:56.839
<v Speaker 3>He's done, Like he's barely he barely hold like a

526
00:22:56.880 --> 00:22:58.400
<v Speaker 3>fake chin lock on Charlie House.

527
00:22:58.400 --> 00:23:00.319
<v Speaker 4>He's so blown up, and they to do.

528
00:23:00.279 --> 00:23:01.960
<v Speaker 3>The little comeback, which I kind of knew what it

529
00:23:02.039 --> 00:23:03.680
<v Speaker 3>was because I was Charlie was calling it like a

530
00:23:03.720 --> 00:23:07.079
<v Speaker 3>madman like in the back, so I knew it was something.

531
00:23:08.799 --> 00:23:12.000
<v Speaker 3>Find out the whole jab jab jab Rocky Johnson's shuffle.

532
00:23:12.119 --> 00:23:14.920
<v Speaker 3>That's the big one where Brosky finally bumps and then

533
00:23:14.960 --> 00:23:17.559
<v Speaker 3>he's supposed to take off and come with something, and

534
00:23:17.599 --> 00:23:19.400
<v Speaker 3>that starts like the bumping free of Brosiy's getting up,

535
00:23:19.400 --> 00:23:21.119
<v Speaker 3>getting down, getting up, getting down and taking all his

536
00:23:22.160 --> 00:23:24.759
<v Speaker 3>so he does it jab jab jab breaks the whole

537
00:23:24.839 --> 00:23:27.799
<v Speaker 3>whatever boom, big punch, Brocey takes a nice flap back

538
00:23:27.839 --> 00:23:30.759
<v Speaker 3>bump bump. He's laying there. Charlie takes off to hit

539
00:23:30.799 --> 00:23:33.359
<v Speaker 3>the ropes. He runs back and Brocey's still just dead

540
00:23:33.400 --> 00:23:35.839
<v Speaker 3>flatten the ground like hasn't moved, and he's just like

541
00:23:35.880 --> 00:23:39.599
<v Speaker 3>I see this. He's like like he's like grab it, match,

542
00:23:39.640 --> 00:23:41.000
<v Speaker 3>try to pick him up his hard he's getting match

543
00:23:41.519 --> 00:23:44.039
<v Speaker 3>shoot legitimately using the ropes to get up because his

544
00:23:44.119 --> 00:23:46.519
<v Speaker 3>legs aren't working, like he's using them like he's paralyzed,

545
00:23:46.839 --> 00:23:48.960
<v Speaker 3>and Charlie's just speeding the crap out of him. And

546
00:23:48.960 --> 00:23:51.359
<v Speaker 3>then like the worst part about this on top of

547
00:23:51.359 --> 00:23:52.720
<v Speaker 3>all and I'm even at the worst part, but it

548
00:23:52.759 --> 00:23:56.559
<v Speaker 3>added awful aspect of this match. I remember the agent

549
00:23:56.640 --> 00:23:59.759
<v Speaker 3>was Tony Garia, who had no input, but he just goes,

550
00:24:00.039 --> 00:24:02.519
<v Speaker 3>I would really like to see you Worley bird spot

551
00:24:02.559 --> 00:24:05.240
<v Speaker 3>in there, which means an airplane spin, and he went

552
00:24:05.359 --> 00:24:07.720
<v Speaker 3>and eventually Charlie gets broke me up an airplane spinning.

553
00:24:07.799 --> 00:24:10.839
<v Speaker 3>I feed and take like the Terry Funk ladder like

554
00:24:11.039 --> 00:24:13.839
<v Speaker 3>leg bump from Brosky, like on top of this like

555
00:24:14.000 --> 00:24:17.480
<v Speaker 3>debacle that's going on. And then Charlie got a promo

556
00:24:17.480 --> 00:24:19.839
<v Speaker 3>on Brosky the back for being a professional and shitty.

557
00:24:20.559 --> 00:24:21.200
<v Speaker 4>I don't, I don't.

558
00:24:21.240 --> 00:24:23.079
<v Speaker 5>I don't remember that point you said you embarrassed me

559
00:24:23.119 --> 00:24:24.799
<v Speaker 5>out there, kid, I don't know.

560
00:24:24.799 --> 00:24:27.240
<v Speaker 4>If I remember that. But anyway, long story short.

561
00:24:28.519 --> 00:24:31.279
<v Speaker 3>I'm also I'm also like, oh shit, I gotta put

562
00:24:31.319 --> 00:24:33.000
<v Speaker 3>up her. Shut up now, I gotta have a match too,

563
00:24:33.240 --> 00:24:34.759
<v Speaker 3>Like tonight.

564
00:24:34.799 --> 00:24:37.680
<v Speaker 4>Were you supposed to wrestle Jimmy Yang or Hurricane Jimmy

565
00:24:37.720 --> 00:24:39.119
<v Speaker 4>Yang in his singles and.

566
00:24:39.039 --> 00:24:40.799
<v Speaker 5>Then Hurricane didn't want to go to Hall of Fame,

567
00:24:40.880 --> 00:24:44.039
<v Speaker 5>so some Hurricane told Krono he'd rather wrestle Access than

568
00:24:44.039 --> 00:24:44.720
<v Speaker 5>go to the Hall of Fame.

569
00:24:44.839 --> 00:24:45.319
<v Speaker 4>Got out of it.

570
00:24:45.440 --> 00:24:47.440
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, so we had a fun ass tag team match.

571
00:24:47.480 --> 00:24:48.480
<v Speaker 4>I totally redeem.

572
00:24:49.440 --> 00:24:55.200
<v Speaker 3>Unreal night and Day, like awesome tag match with Hurricane

573
00:24:55.279 --> 00:24:55.759
<v Speaker 3>Jimmy Yang.

574
00:24:55.799 --> 00:24:56.319
<v Speaker 4>It was so fun.

575
00:24:56.400 --> 00:24:59.960
<v Speaker 3>Hurricane he actually he's the first time he's Hurricane and

576
00:25:00.119 --> 00:25:02.440
<v Speaker 3>Gregor Helms in like years and gets this big pop

577
00:25:02.480 --> 00:25:06.440
<v Speaker 3>and it was like, I've wrestling in Access at least

578
00:25:06.440 --> 00:25:08.559
<v Speaker 3>back then. I can't say that anymore because now it's

579
00:25:08.599 --> 00:25:10.960
<v Speaker 3>like a little different. Now they like make a big,

580
00:25:11.240 --> 00:25:13.359
<v Speaker 3>you know, NXT spectacle of it. But back then you're

581
00:25:13.400 --> 00:25:16.640
<v Speaker 3>literally just like you're almost like a farm anilyt a

582
00:25:16.720 --> 00:25:19.160
<v Speaker 3>petting zoo, like people want to stop buying, you know,

583
00:25:19.400 --> 00:25:21.160
<v Speaker 3>they want to stop buying check it out? Maybe so

584
00:25:21.319 --> 00:25:24.079
<v Speaker 3>like it's never fun. This was the only time I

585
00:25:24.119 --> 00:25:26.079
<v Speaker 3>had an enjoyable experience wrestling at Access.

586
00:25:26.680 --> 00:25:28.119
<v Speaker 4>Huh what's that tag?

587
00:25:28.559 --> 00:25:32.839
<v Speaker 1>All right? So help me out? When does do things change?

588
00:25:33.400 --> 00:25:34.519
<v Speaker 1>And are we talking about that?

589
00:25:34.519 --> 00:25:36.799
<v Speaker 5>Then there's then there's then there's the draft a couple

590
00:25:36.799 --> 00:25:40.000
<v Speaker 5>of weeks later, and that's a shoot draft. And I

591
00:25:40.000 --> 00:25:42.559
<v Speaker 5>remember I found out going to w E dot Com

592
00:25:42.559 --> 00:25:44.400
<v Speaker 5>on my Razor phone that I hadn't drafted.

593
00:25:46.720 --> 00:25:51.000
<v Speaker 1>Okay, time out, So you see this thoughts in your head? Please?

594
00:25:52.599 --> 00:25:55.039
<v Speaker 5>Uh well, I mean I think at that time we

595
00:25:55.079 --> 00:25:58.200
<v Speaker 5>both knew like we needed to change. Also keep in

596
00:25:58.200 --> 00:26:00.640
<v Speaker 5>mind this now this has never been proven either, but

597
00:26:00.799 --> 00:26:03.680
<v Speaker 5>like the program had come out for that year and

598
00:26:03.680 --> 00:26:06.359
<v Speaker 5>we're not in it, and I was like, oh no,

599
00:26:06.640 --> 00:26:08.359
<v Speaker 5>Like do they know we're gonna get released? Like why

600
00:26:08.359 --> 00:26:11.119
<v Speaker 5>would we not be in the program? That was just

601
00:26:11.119 --> 00:26:13.000
<v Speaker 5>like a little minor thing. But also at the same time,

602
00:26:13.039 --> 00:26:15.319
<v Speaker 5>on the flip side, things like our action figures were

603
00:26:15.319 --> 00:26:16.880
<v Speaker 5>finally starting to come out. We were in our first

604
00:26:16.960 --> 00:26:19.640
<v Speaker 5>video game, because things are you know, always a year behind.

605
00:26:19.880 --> 00:26:22.200
<v Speaker 5>So while we're doing nothing on TV, we get like

606
00:26:22.640 --> 00:26:25.000
<v Speaker 5>three action figures in a row. We get the Treacher's Trio,

607
00:26:25.119 --> 00:26:28.400
<v Speaker 5>the Deluxe Aggression, the uh maybe I think they all

608
00:26:28.400 --> 00:26:31.640
<v Speaker 5>come out at the same time, the Microaggression, the Build Unbrawler.

609
00:26:32.519 --> 00:26:34.599
<v Speaker 5>So in like that sense is like a cool, like

610
00:26:34.799 --> 00:26:38.640
<v Speaker 5>career high, but like the reality is, you know, you're

611
00:26:38.680 --> 00:26:40.400
<v Speaker 5>not to shit on TV and not even getting brought

612
00:26:40.400 --> 00:26:43.359
<v Speaker 5>to TV. Yeah, and you're not making money.

613
00:26:43.480 --> 00:26:43.920
<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

614
00:26:44.240 --> 00:26:46.000
<v Speaker 1>So Brian, where do you go in this draft?

615
00:26:46.559 --> 00:26:50.759
<v Speaker 3>I stayed on SmackDown technically okay, big big technically bomb

616
00:26:50.799 --> 00:26:51.200
<v Speaker 3>in that one.

617
00:26:51.359 --> 00:26:53.759
<v Speaker 1>So where do things go for you? Brosky? Right away?

618
00:26:55.680 --> 00:27:00.960
<v Speaker 5>I remember ed Koski was the right on ACW. I

619
00:27:01.000 --> 00:27:05.279
<v Speaker 5>think like we had pitched him this this video when

620
00:27:05.359 --> 00:27:07.640
<v Speaker 5>we showed it to him, him and Dave Kapoor. I

621
00:27:07.640 --> 00:27:10.480
<v Speaker 5>remember one or the other or both when we went

622
00:27:10.519 --> 00:27:11.559
<v Speaker 5>to the office at one time.

623
00:27:12.160 --> 00:27:12.759
<v Speaker 4>Uh and he.

624
00:27:13.440 --> 00:27:16.400
<v Speaker 3>Side note that meeting. When we go to Stanford, we

625
00:27:16.480 --> 00:27:19.000
<v Speaker 3>never get into see Vince we seek, yeah, we never

626
00:27:19.039 --> 00:27:23.240
<v Speaker 3>see show him this video. And all I really remember is, uh,

627
00:27:24.079 --> 00:27:26.559
<v Speaker 3>we were sat in Coronto's office forever and there was

628
00:27:26.599 --> 00:27:29.799
<v Speaker 3>a stack of like DVDs and TVs and stuff, and

629
00:27:29.839 --> 00:27:33.000
<v Speaker 3>it literally said like Ricky or Tz ECW match and

630
00:27:33.079 --> 00:27:35.480
<v Speaker 3>had just happened. And no one really knows this because

631
00:27:35.519 --> 00:27:37.680
<v Speaker 3>it's edited off TV, but there's like a six man

632
00:27:37.720 --> 00:27:41.799
<v Speaker 3>on ECW and Ricky Ortz I think does the worst

633
00:27:41.839 --> 00:27:45.680
<v Speaker 3>springboard in the history of pro wrestling. And we just

634
00:27:45.759 --> 00:27:48.880
<v Speaker 3>kept watching it over and over with Coronto like having

635
00:27:48.880 --> 00:27:51.119
<v Speaker 3>a blast, like like that's all I really remember about it,

636
00:27:51.200 --> 00:27:52.960
<v Speaker 3>like you know, relive in that again.

637
00:27:53.200 --> 00:27:57.759
<v Speaker 5>Right, So everything kind of once I got drafted, I

638
00:27:57.759 --> 00:28:01.079
<v Speaker 5>think within the week or two, I'm on TV right

639
00:28:01.119 --> 00:28:04.480
<v Speaker 5>away as the new character. I didn't even have new

640
00:28:04.519 --> 00:28:07.839
<v Speaker 5>gear the first the first week, I'm wearing the gear

641
00:28:07.839 --> 00:28:11.359
<v Speaker 5>that I wore at that WrestleMania Battle Royal, which essentially

642
00:28:11.400 --> 00:28:13.559
<v Speaker 5>my regular gear is a different color. And I went

643
00:28:13.599 --> 00:28:17.279
<v Speaker 5>to Express or I had an Express, you know the store.

644
00:28:17.359 --> 00:28:21.000
<v Speaker 5>Express had the pop collar dress shirt. I had like

645
00:28:21.000 --> 00:28:24.000
<v Speaker 5>a headband that was like a Meyer and Matthew's purple headband.

646
00:28:24.279 --> 00:28:26.400
<v Speaker 5>And I cut my hair and and that was it.

647
00:28:26.480 --> 00:28:28.240
<v Speaker 5>It was The Woo Woo guy did a backstage thing

648
00:28:28.240 --> 00:28:31.920
<v Speaker 5>on ECW with Tiffany, the general manager, kind of saying

649
00:28:31.920 --> 00:28:36.240
<v Speaker 5>who I was, and then I wrestle Finley that night

650
00:28:36.319 --> 00:28:39.559
<v Speaker 5>on Superstars, and at the time Superstars it wasn't like

651
00:28:39.680 --> 00:28:41.640
<v Speaker 5>the total Jabron show, yet it was still like part

652
00:28:41.680 --> 00:28:45.960
<v Speaker 5>of the storyline. So I lose my debut match against Finley.

653
00:28:46.119 --> 00:28:48.559
<v Speaker 5>I lose, and then he takes my only headband and

654
00:28:48.599 --> 00:28:50.680
<v Speaker 5>throws it into the crowd. So I need to take

655
00:28:50.680 --> 00:28:54.200
<v Speaker 5>the still photo. So the still photo from my debut

656
00:28:54.799 --> 00:28:57.559
<v Speaker 5>I'm wearing an MVP headband.

657
00:28:57.200 --> 00:28:59.240
<v Speaker 4>Just the other way. You know, you don't see the

658
00:28:59.279 --> 00:29:00.240
<v Speaker 4>logo fun fit act.

659
00:29:01.160 --> 00:29:08.759
<v Speaker 1>So tell me about the hair like I hated.

660
00:29:09.720 --> 00:29:11.920
<v Speaker 4>No. No, I went to Michael the barber, like the

661
00:29:12.000 --> 00:29:12.519
<v Speaker 4>day before.

662
00:29:13.119 --> 00:29:14.880
<v Speaker 1>How do you know that you can now you have

663
00:29:14.920 --> 00:29:16.160
<v Speaker 1>the permission to go do this.

664
00:29:16.200 --> 00:29:18.400
<v Speaker 5>I asked, Okay, I said, can I cut my hair?

665
00:29:18.799 --> 00:29:22.799
<v Speaker 1>Yes? Once you got drafted, get drafted from me. You

666
00:29:22.839 --> 00:29:24.240
<v Speaker 1>know you're split. Can I cut my hair?

667
00:29:24.599 --> 00:29:24.799
<v Speaker 4>Yeah?

668
00:29:24.880 --> 00:29:26.799
<v Speaker 5>I hadn't asking before, but the answer was always no

669
00:29:27.680 --> 00:29:29.720
<v Speaker 5>because I knew like I wanted to be like this,

670
00:29:29.720 --> 00:29:32.519
<v Speaker 5>this character because at this time we're not being brought

671
00:29:32.519 --> 00:29:35.799
<v Speaker 5>to TV. So really I'm just being a delinquent with

672
00:29:35.839 --> 00:29:37.599
<v Speaker 5>my friends, going out, like to the bars and the

673
00:29:37.599 --> 00:29:40.000
<v Speaker 5>clubs of Long Island. New York City all the time,

674
00:29:40.319 --> 00:29:42.680
<v Speaker 5>and I'm basing this character off people I hate, like

675
00:29:42.720 --> 00:29:45.119
<v Speaker 5>the douchebags who are out there with the popped up

676
00:29:45.119 --> 00:29:48.319
<v Speaker 5>the collar and the song like essentially Jersey Shore before

677
00:29:48.359 --> 00:29:50.240
<v Speaker 5>it was Jersey Shore on TV, like it was a

678
00:29:50.240 --> 00:29:53.119
<v Speaker 5>real thing on in Jersey, New York, Long Island. I

679
00:29:53.160 --> 00:29:55.720
<v Speaker 5>just wanted to be that because I knew I hated it,

680
00:29:55.799 --> 00:29:57.960
<v Speaker 5>and I knew I could be it and make people

681
00:29:58.000 --> 00:29:58.279
<v Speaker 5>hate me.

682
00:29:58.640 --> 00:30:02.119
<v Speaker 1>Hmm, all right, so Brian, where do you? What do

683
00:30:02.119 --> 00:30:03.440
<v Speaker 1>you do from here?

684
00:30:04.200 --> 00:30:04.279
<v Speaker 4>So?

685
00:30:06.319 --> 00:30:09.319
<v Speaker 3>Like, like I said, I had no clue who I

686
00:30:09.480 --> 00:30:11.079
<v Speaker 3>was as a singles wrestler or what I was going

687
00:30:11.160 --> 00:30:16.000
<v Speaker 3>to do, And then the creative didn't either like nothing

688
00:30:16.079 --> 00:30:17.880
<v Speaker 3>was brought to me or they had nothing for me.

689
00:30:18.599 --> 00:30:21.400
<v Speaker 3>And I stayed on SmackDown, but I still had no travel,

690
00:30:21.519 --> 00:30:23.119
<v Speaker 3>so I was not going.

691
00:30:22.799 --> 00:30:24.079
<v Speaker 4>To TVs or doing anything.

692
00:30:25.519 --> 00:30:29.359
<v Speaker 3>There was a SmackDown at the garden where I remember

693
00:30:29.759 --> 00:30:31.519
<v Speaker 3>I just showed up and I like talked to my

694
00:30:31.599 --> 00:30:33.880
<v Speaker 3>Glaiz and like try to get some answers, and I

695
00:30:33.920 --> 00:30:37.680
<v Speaker 3>could tell there was nothing happening, and that this lasted

696
00:30:37.680 --> 00:30:40.400
<v Speaker 3>for about I want to say, only like two three weeks,

697
00:30:41.039 --> 00:30:42.519
<v Speaker 3>and I saw the riding on the wall, and I

698
00:30:42.559 --> 00:30:44.359
<v Speaker 3>was like, well, I've been around long enough to see that,

699
00:30:44.519 --> 00:30:45.759
<v Speaker 3>like this is like.

700
00:30:45.720 --> 00:30:46.920
<v Speaker 4>The beginning of end for people.

701
00:30:47.559 --> 00:30:51.160
<v Speaker 3>And to be honest, I was getting very confident as

702
00:30:51.200 --> 00:30:53.160
<v Speaker 3>a wrestler at this point, you know, like my confidence

703
00:30:53.200 --> 00:30:55.119
<v Speaker 3>had really grown, my arrogance had really grown.

704
00:30:55.599 --> 00:30:57.000
<v Speaker 4>And I was like pissed off.

705
00:30:57.000 --> 00:30:59.920
<v Speaker 3>So I called Johnny East and I said, like I understand,

706
00:31:00.119 --> 00:31:02.519
<v Speaker 3>Like you know, he even said to me like, well,

707
00:31:02.559 --> 00:31:05.599
<v Speaker 3>nobody thinks you suck or anything like we don't want

708
00:31:05.599 --> 00:31:07.079
<v Speaker 3>to fire you or we and we don't want to

709
00:31:07.480 --> 00:31:09.240
<v Speaker 3>send you to developmental or anything like that.

710
00:31:09.279 --> 00:31:10.680
<v Speaker 4>But I said, but I'll just go.

711
00:31:10.839 --> 00:31:13.559
<v Speaker 3>I said, I'm you know, I'm twenty four, I'm single,

712
00:31:14.160 --> 00:31:15.200
<v Speaker 3>Like I don't own a house.

713
00:31:15.279 --> 00:31:17.480
<v Speaker 4>Like, I'll just go. I said, I'll just go to Florida.

714
00:31:17.519 --> 00:31:19.559
<v Speaker 3>If they have nothing for me, at least I know there,

715
00:31:19.599 --> 00:31:21.559
<v Speaker 3>I'll be on TV every week, I'll get my reps.

716
00:31:21.559 --> 00:31:23.839
<v Speaker 3>I'll work and you guys will see me and see

717
00:31:23.839 --> 00:31:26.599
<v Speaker 3>me grow, and you know, I'll figure it out. And

718
00:31:26.680 --> 00:31:28.799
<v Speaker 3>uh so that's why I told him, and he's like fine.

719
00:31:29.200 --> 00:31:31.920
<v Speaker 3>But then that also because I wasn't being sent there,

720
00:31:32.200 --> 00:31:34.359
<v Speaker 3>I didn't get paid to go there. For a full year,

721
00:31:34.480 --> 00:31:36.759
<v Speaker 3>so I had to live off my savings and uh

722
00:31:37.319 --> 00:31:39.240
<v Speaker 3>the money I earned in the edge head run.

723
00:31:39.680 --> 00:31:40.000
<v Speaker 4>Wow.

724
00:31:40.519 --> 00:31:43.400
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, so but what at what point are you in FCW,

725
00:31:43.559 --> 00:31:44.839
<v Speaker 1>like moved in and who.

726
00:31:44.799 --> 00:31:48.279
<v Speaker 3>I go so that that draft is like April, I

727
00:31:48.279 --> 00:31:51.599
<v Speaker 3>want to say I drove or maybe I just flew

728
00:31:51.680 --> 00:31:53.119
<v Speaker 3>and I went for a month and I lived with

729
00:31:53.160 --> 00:31:56.480
<v Speaker 3>Trumperetta and his Uh well it's not even a one

730
00:31:56.519 --> 00:32:00.000
<v Speaker 3>bedroom what's that like a what's that called a studio apartment?

731
00:32:00.039 --> 00:32:02.920
<v Speaker 3>I lived with trimprad for a month and I went like,

732
00:32:03.400 --> 00:32:06.480
<v Speaker 3>got it situated, signed the least or whatever, went back,

733
00:32:06.519 --> 00:32:08.519
<v Speaker 3>and then I drove down and really moved moved and

734
00:32:08.559 --> 00:32:10.480
<v Speaker 3>we got like a new meet him, got a nice

735
00:32:10.480 --> 00:32:13.400
<v Speaker 3>two bedroom apartment to share, and that's ow it all.

736
00:32:13.720 --> 00:32:16.200
<v Speaker 4>And it was one of, if not the you know.

737
00:32:16.319 --> 00:32:18.839
<v Speaker 3>Besides, you know, marrying my wife is one of the

738
00:32:18.880 --> 00:32:21.200
<v Speaker 3>best decisions in my life. For sure, saved my career,

739
00:32:21.880 --> 00:32:24.480
<v Speaker 3>altered me as a pro wrestler, just you know, it

740
00:32:24.559 --> 00:32:26.720
<v Speaker 3>was the right thing to do because I didn't.

741
00:32:26.400 --> 00:32:30.319
<v Speaker 4>Know who or what I was as a singles wrestler, and.

742
00:32:30.240 --> 00:32:32.400
<v Speaker 3>Then this way I really found out, you know, and

743
00:32:32.440 --> 00:32:35.359
<v Speaker 3>I stayed like I think trust me. I know, even

744
00:32:35.599 --> 00:32:37.119
<v Speaker 3>people in the company were like, holy shit, I can't

745
00:32:37.119 --> 00:32:38.720
<v Speaker 3>believe you did that. You know, even Johnny aces like

746
00:32:38.759 --> 00:32:40.400
<v Speaker 3>we don't think you suck, like we don't want you

747
00:32:40.440 --> 00:32:42.200
<v Speaker 3>to go, like we're not sending you there. I'm like,

748
00:32:42.240 --> 00:32:43.920
<v Speaker 3>all right, I'm just gonna go and I'm going to

749
00:32:44.000 --> 00:32:45.839
<v Speaker 3>out wrestle everybody and out shine these dudes that you

750
00:32:45.880 --> 00:32:47.920
<v Speaker 3>signed that you think are going to be something and

751
00:32:48.079 --> 00:32:50.480
<v Speaker 3>leapfrog them. And that's eventually what I did. You know,

752
00:32:51.000 --> 00:32:53.359
<v Speaker 3>it was a great idea, right all.

753
00:32:53.359 --> 00:32:56.079
<v Speaker 1>Right, let's put a pin in me asking you guys questions.

754
00:32:56.319 --> 00:32:58.839
<v Speaker 1>So we've set the scene big time right now on

755
00:32:58.880 --> 00:33:01.160
<v Speaker 1>what sort of happened for at least that first half.

756
00:33:01.640 --> 00:33:04.240
<v Speaker 1>Let's ask you guys some questions from the people, and

757
00:33:04.279 --> 00:33:06.880
<v Speaker 1>then if there's any holes there, I will I will

758
00:33:06.880 --> 00:33:10.240
<v Speaker 1>finish us up. John Fisher, did you notice anyone in

759
00:33:10.279 --> 00:33:13.440
<v Speaker 1>the company, wrestlers or otherwise treating you differently backstage after

760
00:33:13.799 --> 00:33:14.440
<v Speaker 1>the breakup?

761
00:33:15.720 --> 00:33:16.559
<v Speaker 4>No?

762
00:33:16.799 --> 00:33:19.400
<v Speaker 3>Uh, not with each other From Edge for sure, I

763
00:33:19.440 --> 00:33:22.279
<v Speaker 3>felt like you're like out of sight, out of mind,

764
00:33:22.319 --> 00:33:25.440
<v Speaker 3>jabrown to people instead of like Edges guys and tag

765
00:33:25.480 --> 00:33:26.039
<v Speaker 3>team champions.

766
00:33:26.079 --> 00:33:27.160
<v Speaker 4>You do feel a difference there.

767
00:33:28.119 --> 00:33:30.400
<v Speaker 3>You know where where Michael Ays might just walk past

768
00:33:30.400 --> 00:33:31.799
<v Speaker 3>you the hallway instead of acknowledge you.

769
00:33:32.119 --> 00:33:35.240
<v Speaker 4>Oh yeah, but none of the boys. Not the boys now,

770
00:33:35.240 --> 00:33:37.039
<v Speaker 4>because then we'd already won that won the boys over.

771
00:33:37.200 --> 00:33:38.680
<v Speaker 4>Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah for sure.

772
00:33:39.039 --> 00:33:42.000
<v Speaker 5>Like Michael Hayes is like I like Michael Hayes. I

773
00:33:42.000 --> 00:33:46.279
<v Speaker 5>have nothing bad to say about him, but like he's

774
00:33:46.319 --> 00:33:48.000
<v Speaker 5>really into you if the company is and he's not

775
00:33:48.039 --> 00:33:49.079
<v Speaker 5>into you the companies now.

776
00:33:49.599 --> 00:33:54.119
<v Speaker 4>Yes, agreed, agreed, Yeah.

777
00:33:53.200 --> 00:33:55.759
<v Speaker 1>Jared Saidwick, we know Broski becomes a woou guy in

778
00:33:55.920 --> 00:33:58.799
<v Speaker 1>ww ECW. Was there a gimmick that Brian wanted to

779
00:33:58.880 --> 00:34:01.319
<v Speaker 1>use but never got the go ahead to do so

780
00:34:01.400 --> 00:34:04.160
<v Speaker 1>from Vincent Creative? So we just talked about it. But

781
00:34:04.359 --> 00:34:06.000
<v Speaker 1>was there ever a gimmick that you sort.

782
00:34:05.799 --> 00:34:09.400
<v Speaker 3>Of show when I when I got right to uh

783
00:34:09.760 --> 00:34:14.320
<v Speaker 3>FCW is also right when uh Lance Archer got there, and.

784
00:34:14.280 --> 00:34:15.800
<v Speaker 4>I'm like, this dude's money's big.

785
00:34:15.880 --> 00:34:18.000
<v Speaker 3>I already knew, you know, Johnny As and Vince Love

786
00:34:18.039 --> 00:34:20.800
<v Speaker 3>big dudes like this is gonna work out. And that

787
00:34:20.920 --> 00:34:22.880
<v Speaker 3>show Rock of Love was on TV and I would

788
00:34:22.880 --> 00:34:25.199
<v Speaker 3>watch it from time to time, So I wanted to

789
00:34:25.239 --> 00:34:28.159
<v Speaker 3>be Brett Michaels like the love lorn and he was

790
00:34:28.599 --> 00:34:31.199
<v Speaker 3>like my security, my bodyguard, like a basically a Sean

791
00:34:31.199 --> 00:34:34.280
<v Speaker 3>Diesel thing, and I pitched that, you know, and that

792
00:34:34.480 --> 00:34:37.119
<v Speaker 3>was like what I wanted, which is nuts because we eventually,

793
00:34:37.559 --> 00:34:39.599
<v Speaker 3>you know, it got shut down and no, no, no

794
00:34:39.679 --> 00:34:41.960
<v Speaker 3>biers on that. But like a year later we got

795
00:34:41.960 --> 00:34:43.840
<v Speaker 3>called up together as at Tag team, literally out of

796
00:34:43.840 --> 00:34:44.199
<v Speaker 3>thin air.

797
00:34:44.960 --> 00:34:46.199
<v Speaker 4>So I thought that always that was kind of funny.

798
00:34:46.199 --> 00:34:47.599
<v Speaker 3>But I thought it was kind of a funny gimmick

799
00:34:47.639 --> 00:34:49.599
<v Speaker 3>that I'm like looking for love and I had this

800
00:34:49.679 --> 00:34:51.440
<v Speaker 3>like necklace with like a heart on it that I

801
00:34:51.480 --> 00:34:53.159
<v Speaker 3>was supposed to post to give the girl, like when

802
00:34:53.159 --> 00:34:55.079
<v Speaker 3>I find the diva that I you know, I I

803
00:34:55.280 --> 00:34:58.880
<v Speaker 3>choose or whatever, and I get caught, you know, messing

804
00:34:58.880 --> 00:35:00.880
<v Speaker 3>around on an other be very entertaining.

805
00:35:01.159 --> 00:35:03.880
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that's that's funny. That's cool. I never even heard

806
00:35:03.920 --> 00:35:07.360
<v Speaker 1>that ever. I know, Nathan Ramos, If y'all are able

807
00:35:07.400 --> 00:35:09.360
<v Speaker 1>to pull back the curtain a bit, how far in

808
00:35:09.400 --> 00:35:12.920
<v Speaker 1>advance were you were y'all told about winning the tag

809
00:35:12.960 --> 00:35:15.559
<v Speaker 1>titles for the first time, and was there any nerves

810
00:35:15.599 --> 00:35:17.960
<v Speaker 1>going into that match knowing y'all are going.

811
00:35:17.719 --> 00:35:20.360
<v Speaker 5>Over minutes, I mean not minutes like that earlier in

812
00:35:20.400 --> 00:35:22.239
<v Speaker 5>that day before we were going over it.

813
00:35:22.480 --> 00:35:22.639
<v Speaker 4>You know.

814
00:35:22.840 --> 00:35:25.480
<v Speaker 5>I remember the night before wherever we were, we had

815
00:35:25.480 --> 00:35:28.239
<v Speaker 5>like a run through the match, and obviously we didn't win, yeah,

816
00:35:28.239 --> 00:35:31.039
<v Speaker 5>which melbody, but you know that finish wasn't going to

817
00:35:31.079 --> 00:35:31.519
<v Speaker 5>be different.

818
00:35:32.000 --> 00:35:34.840
<v Speaker 3>But that made me way more comfortable because we like

819
00:35:34.840 --> 00:35:36.280
<v Speaker 3>did it already, so it was like almost like a

820
00:35:36.360 --> 00:35:39.119
<v Speaker 3>dress rehearsal, you know, with a slightly different twist. So

821
00:35:39.199 --> 00:35:41.639
<v Speaker 3>like that did take a lot of the nerves out

822
00:35:41.679 --> 00:35:47.360
<v Speaker 3>of it. Also, going first always like feels easier, you know,

823
00:35:47.679 --> 00:35:49.760
<v Speaker 3>and so that anticipation, like the show is going on

824
00:35:49.800 --> 00:35:52.840
<v Speaker 3>and you're just waiting, and you're that fucking excite, that

825
00:35:54.000 --> 00:35:57.519
<v Speaker 3>excitements like in your belly, like I love wrestling so much,

826
00:35:57.559 --> 00:35:59.559
<v Speaker 3>I just want to do it and get it over with.

827
00:35:59.599 --> 00:36:02.159
<v Speaker 4>Like that that waiting kills how many times am I

828
00:36:02.199 --> 00:36:03.519
<v Speaker 4>going to go over the goddamn matching? My head?

829
00:36:03.639 --> 00:36:05.239
<v Speaker 3>That too, that too, and then you start like playing

830
00:36:05.239 --> 00:36:07.760
<v Speaker 3>games in your mind and it's just like let's go, man.

831
00:36:08.039 --> 00:36:09.599
<v Speaker 1>Let me let me go first and eat that catering

832
00:36:09.840 --> 00:36:13.840
<v Speaker 1>Matthew Manasis. After reaching such a high and an early

833
00:36:13.880 --> 00:36:16.400
<v Speaker 1>part in your career and plummeting shortly after, did you

834
00:36:16.480 --> 00:36:18.679
<v Speaker 1>feel like that was it for you guys in the

835
00:36:18.679 --> 00:36:19.519
<v Speaker 1>wrestling business.

836
00:36:19.840 --> 00:36:22.360
<v Speaker 5>Oh man, Like listen the weird little at that the

837
00:36:22.440 --> 00:36:25.480
<v Speaker 5>year before we're main eventing. We're running in the main

838
00:36:25.480 --> 00:36:29.000
<v Speaker 5>event Edge was Undertaker as the Edge has I'm thinking, all, funck, Well,

839
00:36:29.000 --> 00:36:32.960
<v Speaker 5>next year we'll bring up We'll be the edgeheads like Explode.

840
00:36:32.960 --> 00:36:35.360
<v Speaker 5>But no, we're lumberjacks in the fucking pre show. Like

841
00:36:35.400 --> 00:36:36.440
<v Speaker 5>what a fall from Grace?

842
00:36:38.079 --> 00:36:39.119
<v Speaker 4>It was bad.

843
00:36:39.440 --> 00:36:42.760
<v Speaker 5>Uh, we didn't give up, you know, but it's like,

844
00:36:42.840 --> 00:36:44.559
<v Speaker 5>what can you really do? But that we made all

845
00:36:44.599 --> 00:36:47.280
<v Speaker 5>those videos, we were pitching it. We were trying this stuff,

846
00:36:47.320 --> 00:36:49.719
<v Speaker 5>you know, and thank you like Ebana and Misson Morrison

847
00:36:49.760 --> 00:36:52.679
<v Speaker 5>for letting us be on their their web shows, But like,

848
00:36:52.679 --> 00:36:53.280
<v Speaker 5>what else can.

849
00:36:53.199 --> 00:36:53.719
<v Speaker 4>We really do?

850
00:36:53.800 --> 00:36:56.199
<v Speaker 5>I mean, I get like we weren't being brought to TV.

851
00:36:57.440 --> 00:37:00.719
<v Speaker 3>I'm this may sound nuts, but I've always been very

852
00:37:00.719 --> 00:37:03.000
<v Speaker 3>grateful for the highs and lows of that I've experienced

853
00:37:03.039 --> 00:37:05.840
<v Speaker 3>in wrestling, because he makes you appreciate them all. You know,

854
00:37:05.880 --> 00:37:08.599
<v Speaker 3>you're not like some spoiled baby who's you know, only

855
00:37:08.639 --> 00:37:11.039
<v Speaker 3>been pushed to the moon by ww and paid all

856
00:37:11.079 --> 00:37:13.039
<v Speaker 3>this money. You know, it really helped us build like

857
00:37:13.159 --> 00:37:16.519
<v Speaker 3>character as wrestlers. As men makes you appreciate, you know,

858
00:37:16.559 --> 00:37:19.000
<v Speaker 3>the little things, the big things and all that. I

859
00:37:19.000 --> 00:37:21.559
<v Speaker 3>think it's just has given me a better peace of mind.

860
00:37:21.599 --> 00:37:24.840
<v Speaker 3>And yeah, and I'm also a very big Everything happens

861
00:37:24.880 --> 00:37:28.159
<v Speaker 3>for a reason guy, So you know I agree too, and.

862
00:37:28.159 --> 00:37:30.800
<v Speaker 5>You know to that point, like of course, do I

863
00:37:30.840 --> 00:37:34.000
<v Speaker 5>wish I was always like a in a better spot

864
00:37:34.079 --> 00:37:35.519
<v Speaker 5>and you know I made all his money. It was

865
00:37:35.559 --> 00:37:37.519
<v Speaker 5>all the pay per views and like sure, sure, but

866
00:37:37.599 --> 00:37:41.519
<v Speaker 5>like on the flip side, every like title everyone was

867
00:37:41.519 --> 00:37:43.920
<v Speaker 5>like a moment and was like a literally like scratching

868
00:37:43.960 --> 00:37:46.480
<v Speaker 5>claw friend, like people remember and you know, like whether

869
00:37:46.519 --> 00:37:48.599
<v Speaker 5>it was like that US title win after the YouTube

870
00:37:48.599 --> 00:37:50.400
<v Speaker 5>show where that I see a mania or when we

871
00:37:50.480 --> 00:37:54.079
<v Speaker 5>won you know, MetLife, like those were like not more

872
00:37:54.119 --> 00:37:55.719
<v Speaker 5>than just title wins.

873
00:37:55.719 --> 00:37:56.639
<v Speaker 4>They were like moments.

874
00:37:56.719 --> 00:37:59.000
<v Speaker 5>I feel like I feel like they were so big

875
00:37:59.440 --> 00:38:01.039
<v Speaker 5>because other people.

876
00:38:01.079 --> 00:38:03.079
<v Speaker 3>Really, I don't think people are going up to like

877
00:38:03.480 --> 00:38:06.599
<v Speaker 3>Godfather or like ten Zi being like, man, I remember

878
00:38:06.599 --> 00:38:08.400
<v Speaker 3>when you won the icy title. I'll never forget it,

879
00:38:08.519 --> 00:38:10.320
<v Speaker 3>you know what I mean? Like, yeah, they did that

880
00:38:10.360 --> 00:38:12.920
<v Speaker 3>and it was accomplishment. But like I do feel like

881
00:38:12.960 --> 00:38:16.000
<v Speaker 3>ours meant something when they happened, and there were moments.

882
00:38:15.800 --> 00:38:18.039
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, I think our first tag team title win was

883
00:38:18.079 --> 00:38:21.559
<v Speaker 5>a regular like TENSEI Godfather win, but like, I.

884
00:38:21.559 --> 00:38:23.639
<v Speaker 4>Don't know what I think. So in our hometown and

885
00:38:23.679 --> 00:38:24.239
<v Speaker 4>the open.

886
00:38:24.239 --> 00:38:25.599
<v Speaker 5>For us, it was special, But like I don't think

887
00:38:25.599 --> 00:38:26.519
<v Speaker 5>anyone really.

888
00:38:26.719 --> 00:38:28.719
<v Speaker 1>As a fan, I agree with Broski on this one,

889
00:38:29.159 --> 00:38:30.719
<v Speaker 1>but I think I think I forgot that you guys

890
00:38:30.719 --> 00:38:32.440
<v Speaker 1>even won the titles when we first started doing.

891
00:38:32.840 --> 00:38:36.039
<v Speaker 3>Force is a big Deal's let's say it's in between

892
00:38:37.199 --> 00:38:41.519
<v Speaker 3>the Mania moment and Baldough winning the Icy title was

893
00:38:41.639 --> 00:38:42.400
<v Speaker 3>definitely yeah.

894
00:38:42.480 --> 00:38:43.840
<v Speaker 5>I mean I look at it right now, like I

895
00:38:43.880 --> 00:38:46.320
<v Speaker 5>got it like that the Ted team title, my dad

896
00:38:46.320 --> 00:38:47.800
<v Speaker 5>go out of me, like in a custom.

897
00:38:47.599 --> 00:38:48.880
<v Speaker 1>Shadow box.

898
00:38:50.320 --> 00:38:52.119
<v Speaker 4>That year for Christmas. I'm I haven't hang on my

899
00:38:52.159 --> 00:38:52.679
<v Speaker 4>wall right here.

900
00:38:52.800 --> 00:38:54.960
<v Speaker 3>And I love that belt, that belt like you know

901
00:38:55.079 --> 00:38:57.480
<v Speaker 3>Edge had and Eddie Garo had and just you know

902
00:38:57.639 --> 00:39:00.679
<v Speaker 3>it's it's rending Free had it and we are. We

903
00:39:01.079 --> 00:39:03.920
<v Speaker 3>are combined age. We have the youngest tag team champions and.

904
00:39:04.000 --> 00:39:06.159
<v Speaker 4>That's the asterist combined age.

905
00:39:06.760 --> 00:39:09.119
<v Speaker 3>I believe there's younger people like Renee de Brie was

906
00:39:09.199 --> 00:39:15.559
<v Speaker 3>younger and he is younger, but there's someone, oh Dominic.

907
00:39:15.519 --> 00:39:24.239
<v Speaker 4>Almost really screwed us. But it's combined age. It's combined age. Yes, yeah, okay, yeah, yeah, all.

908
00:39:24.199 --> 00:39:26.719
<v Speaker 1>Right, Michael Lpuma. Were you guys more excited or nervous

909
00:39:26.719 --> 00:39:27.320
<v Speaker 1>to be on your own?

910
00:39:29.480 --> 00:39:32.719
<v Speaker 5>I think at that point both, yeah. But I think

911
00:39:32.719 --> 00:39:35.239
<v Speaker 5>at that point we had been like dicked around for

912
00:39:35.280 --> 00:39:37.039
<v Speaker 5>like almost six months. It was like, all right, let's

913
00:39:37.079 --> 00:39:39.880
<v Speaker 5>let's let's fucking go, and somethings gotta change.

914
00:39:39.880 --> 00:39:41.719
<v Speaker 3>The other thing is, like I said, I think we're

915
00:39:41.719 --> 00:39:45.639
<v Speaker 3>both like gaining confidence as wrestlers. But also, as we said,

916
00:39:45.840 --> 00:39:49.960
<v Speaker 3>we both have never ever been singles wrestlers. Never like

917
00:39:50.000 --> 00:39:52.440
<v Speaker 3>there's a handful of literally probably.

918
00:39:52.239 --> 00:39:54.559
<v Speaker 1>Like Broski had that run in w t W.

919
00:39:55.800 --> 00:39:59.119
<v Speaker 3>Well professional as a trained wrestler, I want to say

920
00:39:59.119 --> 00:40:02.880
<v Speaker 3>we' I would say we each had less than five

921
00:40:03.400 --> 00:40:05.199
<v Speaker 3>five or less singles matches to our name at this.

922
00:40:05.199 --> 00:40:09.960
<v Speaker 4>Point, probably no more than ten. No way, no way.

923
00:40:09.719 --> 00:40:12.119
<v Speaker 1>Wow, that is insane, I know.

924
00:40:12.280 --> 00:40:14.440
<v Speaker 4>So yeah, so that was a big like learning curve

925
00:40:14.480 --> 00:40:14.840
<v Speaker 4>for sure.

926
00:40:15.840 --> 00:40:18.199
<v Speaker 1>All right, Joey beans, did you want to feud with

927
00:40:18.239 --> 00:40:21.079
<v Speaker 1>each other? If you did, would you guys have wanted

928
00:40:21.199 --> 00:40:22.159
<v Speaker 1>edge involved somehow?

929
00:40:23.480 --> 00:40:26.760
<v Speaker 3>I think at that time it was no, there's no

930
00:40:27.239 --> 00:40:32.519
<v Speaker 3>steak in us, So what's the point of fuding. I yeah,

931
00:40:32.599 --> 00:40:33.440
<v Speaker 3>I knew that when I.

932
00:40:33.440 --> 00:40:35.760
<v Speaker 5>Became the Woo guy, I needed to be as different

933
00:40:35.880 --> 00:40:38.440
<v Speaker 5>than Edge and Zach Ryder as an edgehead and curt

934
00:40:38.440 --> 00:40:39.199
<v Speaker 5>Angs as possible.

935
00:40:39.239 --> 00:40:40.000
<v Speaker 4>So I cut my hair.

936
00:40:40.559 --> 00:40:43.880
<v Speaker 5>I had the one legged tights, you know, the colorful outfits,

937
00:40:44.000 --> 00:40:46.719
<v Speaker 5>the sunglasses, all that, because I knew that if people

938
00:40:47.360 --> 00:40:49.639
<v Speaker 5>didn't know my name was Zach Ryder, they were, oh,

939
00:40:49.719 --> 00:40:51.920
<v Speaker 5>that's the guy with the one legged tight So that's

940
00:40:51.960 --> 00:40:52.760
<v Speaker 5>the guy with the headbander.

941
00:40:52.800 --> 00:40:55.039
<v Speaker 4>That's the guy the woo who doesn't woo woo. You know.

942
00:40:55.360 --> 00:40:58.039
<v Speaker 5>I just needed to separate myself from the edgeheads and

943
00:40:58.039 --> 00:41:01.960
<v Speaker 5>and Edge because it worked, but it ran its course

944
00:41:01.960 --> 00:41:03.239
<v Speaker 5>and it was over and I just had to be

945
00:41:03.320 --> 00:41:04.039
<v Speaker 5>totally different.

946
00:41:04.960 --> 00:41:06.519
<v Speaker 3>I used to think about that when we were on

947
00:41:06.559 --> 00:41:09.119
<v Speaker 3>the indies. I'd be like, oh, man, you know, when

948
00:41:09.159 --> 00:41:11.559
<v Speaker 3>we break up and we have like this dreaming and

949
00:41:11.639 --> 00:41:14.559
<v Speaker 3>raven type feud. I used to think about that. But

950
00:41:14.719 --> 00:41:17.320
<v Speaker 3>in the other runs never because they never got to

951
00:41:17.400 --> 00:41:17.880
<v Speaker 3>that point.

952
00:41:18.000 --> 00:41:18.199
<v Speaker 4>You know.

953
00:41:18.639 --> 00:41:22.840
<v Speaker 5>I think the last run could have maybe gotten there,

954
00:41:22.840 --> 00:41:24.719
<v Speaker 5>but not like at the point it was at.

955
00:41:25.119 --> 00:41:26.719
<v Speaker 4>No Edgeheads run certainly not.

956
00:41:26.840 --> 00:41:34.239
<v Speaker 3>Definitely not and definitely not anything major brothers or you know, yeah.

957
00:41:33.199 --> 00:41:35.679
<v Speaker 1>Stand bor, was there a point where you guys were

958
00:41:35.679 --> 00:41:38.280
<v Speaker 1>really trying to separate yourselves from each other? If so,

959
00:41:38.599 --> 00:41:42.360
<v Speaker 1>what were some of your initial ideas? So, like, I

960
00:41:42.400 --> 00:41:43.400
<v Speaker 1>mean we kind of talked about this.

961
00:41:43.599 --> 00:41:45.000
<v Speaker 4>I mean, watch the video on YouTube.

962
00:41:45.000 --> 00:41:47.519
<v Speaker 3>It really it's really that's like our biggest attempt. It

963
00:41:47.519 --> 00:41:51.119
<v Speaker 3>was me switching the trunks, him staying along, tights not matching.

964
00:41:51.800 --> 00:41:52.960
<v Speaker 4>I kind of like that.

965
00:41:53.000 --> 00:41:56.880
<v Speaker 3>We never matched as a tag team except the edge stuff. Yeah,

966
00:41:57.079 --> 00:41:59.000
<v Speaker 3>you know, by accident. Maybe a couple of times we've

967
00:41:59.000 --> 00:42:03.480
<v Speaker 3>had like colored gear, but not you know, all.

968
00:42:03.519 --> 00:42:07.079
<v Speaker 1>Right, Richard Grimes, is this When Brian started using the cane,

969
00:42:07.159 --> 00:42:09.320
<v Speaker 1>I always thought that was a cool touch. Added how

970
00:42:09.320 --> 00:42:10.159
<v Speaker 1>did he come up with that?

971
00:42:10.239 --> 00:42:13.320
<v Speaker 4>So that's not really so uh, that's this is what

972
00:42:13.440 --> 00:42:14.280
<v Speaker 4>the cane is. About.

973
00:42:14.320 --> 00:42:17.199
<v Speaker 3>A year and a half later and I've tagged with

974
00:42:17.320 --> 00:42:20.599
<v Speaker 3>Archer and then I started to tag with I Do Nothing,

975
00:42:20.719 --> 00:42:23.559
<v Speaker 3>and then I tagged with Rex, and I just got

976
00:42:23.599 --> 00:42:26.960
<v Speaker 3>so infatuate with Brian Pillman, like loose Cannon era stuff,

977
00:42:26.960 --> 00:42:29.199
<v Speaker 3>and that's all I would watch and I was like obsessed,

978
00:42:29.559 --> 00:42:31.400
<v Speaker 3>and I just loved that moment when he debuts in

979
00:42:31.400 --> 00:42:33.599
<v Speaker 3>the cyn the lights are off and then he's just

980
00:42:33.639 --> 00:42:35.840
<v Speaker 3>standing there with the cane, and I thought that was

981
00:42:35.840 --> 00:42:36.960
<v Speaker 3>just really cool and unique.

982
00:42:36.960 --> 00:42:37.840
<v Speaker 4>And what I was.

983
00:42:37.800 --> 00:42:41.000
<v Speaker 3>Really looking for the total origin of the cane besides

984
00:42:41.039 --> 00:42:45.840
<v Speaker 3>that is I just wanted something to differentiate me, like

985
00:42:46.679 --> 00:42:47.880
<v Speaker 3>I was the white guy with the cane, you know

986
00:42:47.880 --> 00:42:50.760
<v Speaker 3>what I mean, Like there's just like as.

987
00:42:50.320 --> 00:42:50.920
<v Speaker 4>This two by four.

988
00:42:50.960 --> 00:42:52.440
<v Speaker 3>You know, I forethought, like people have done this for

989
00:42:52.480 --> 00:42:54.000
<v Speaker 3>the history of time, Like why can't I be the

990
00:42:54.079 --> 00:42:54.519
<v Speaker 3>cane guy?

991
00:42:54.760 --> 00:42:54.960
<v Speaker 4>You know?

992
00:42:55.360 --> 00:42:55.639
<v Speaker 1>Yep?

993
00:42:55.800 --> 00:42:57.639
<v Speaker 3>That was it. It's what you remember. You know, Coco

994
00:42:57.719 --> 00:43:00.039
<v Speaker 3>had the bird, Hawkins said the cane. That was That

995
00:43:00.119 --> 00:43:00.840
<v Speaker 3>was what I was trying to do.

996
00:43:01.960 --> 00:43:03.920
<v Speaker 1>All right, here's a good one. Brian Doposo. Well, I'm

997
00:43:03.960 --> 00:43:06.599
<v Speaker 1>sure the objective was sustaining at WWE once the edge

998
00:43:06.599 --> 00:43:08.880
<v Speaker 1>heads were split and you guys were shoveled down the

999
00:43:08.880 --> 00:43:10.639
<v Speaker 1>card to do either of you keep an eye on

1000
00:43:10.679 --> 00:43:15.159
<v Speaker 1>any indies slash TNA slash, try and make any contacts

1001
00:43:15.199 --> 00:43:16.599
<v Speaker 1>to set something up.

1002
00:43:16.440 --> 00:43:21.239
<v Speaker 5>In case Nope, no's weren't what they ought. You can't

1003
00:43:21.239 --> 00:43:23.159
<v Speaker 5>you couldn't like make a living on the indies back then,

1004
00:43:23.519 --> 00:43:26.000
<v Speaker 5>especially with not off the names that we had.

1005
00:43:26.199 --> 00:43:27.239
<v Speaker 4>Not enough.

1006
00:43:27.920 --> 00:43:32.280
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, But on the flip side of that, I literally,

1007
00:43:33.400 --> 00:43:35.719
<v Speaker 3>okay at this point when I go to FCW's when

1008
00:43:35.719 --> 00:43:39.159
<v Speaker 3>i'd like really discover PWG for the first time, and

1009
00:43:39.480 --> 00:43:41.519
<v Speaker 3>Trent and I got so into it, and we would

1010
00:43:41.639 --> 00:43:44.519
<v Speaker 3>order it from High Spots the DVD every month, and

1011
00:43:44.599 --> 00:43:46.679
<v Speaker 3>like Tyson Kid would come over and we'd hang out

1012
00:43:46.719 --> 00:43:49.639
<v Speaker 3>and wah and Johnny Curtis Fandango and we'd all just

1013
00:43:49.679 --> 00:43:53.880
<v Speaker 3>hang and watch. Always watch that. I've always up until honestly,

1014
00:43:54.000 --> 00:43:58.039
<v Speaker 3>like like four three or four years ago, I was

1015
00:43:58.079 --> 00:44:01.480
<v Speaker 3>always our way from day one, watched everything. See I

1016
00:44:01.519 --> 00:44:04.679
<v Speaker 3>don't think I've ever missed impact in like twenty years,

1017
00:44:04.719 --> 00:44:06.880
<v Speaker 3>like I've been a fan or at least like fouled

1018
00:44:06.880 --> 00:44:08.800
<v Speaker 3>the product for twenty years as well, just because I

1019
00:44:08.880 --> 00:44:11.039
<v Speaker 3>just love wrestling. I love it in all shapes and size,

1020
00:44:11.039 --> 00:44:13.079
<v Speaker 3>this kind of thing. So I'm always aware of that.

1021
00:44:13.199 --> 00:44:16.440
<v Speaker 3>I wasn't thinking of like politically, where my friends were

1022
00:44:16.480 --> 00:44:17.960
<v Speaker 3>and if I could get in places I don't know.

1023
00:44:17.960 --> 00:44:19.239
<v Speaker 4>I wasn't even really thinking about that.

1024
00:44:19.559 --> 00:44:23.679
<v Speaker 1>Right Sam a yacht. What is the vibe like in

1025
00:44:23.719 --> 00:44:26.400
<v Speaker 1>the locker room back then? Do wrestle, do veterans sit

1026
00:44:26.440 --> 00:44:30.079
<v Speaker 1>with veterans or is everyone close? Were there any fights

1027
00:44:30.119 --> 00:44:31.599
<v Speaker 1>or tense moments you guys witnessed.

1028
00:44:32.760 --> 00:44:35.440
<v Speaker 5>I think this is about like the changing of the

1029
00:44:35.480 --> 00:44:38.639
<v Speaker 5>guard time, you know, where the guys like Holly and

1030
00:44:38.800 --> 00:44:41.960
<v Speaker 5>jbl are starting to kind of leaving, you know, it's

1031
00:44:41.960 --> 00:44:45.280
<v Speaker 5>trying to go. Yeah, so this is definitely like the hour,

1032
00:44:45.360 --> 00:44:47.360
<v Speaker 5>like eight oh nine is kind of like the changing

1033
00:44:47.360 --> 00:44:47.840
<v Speaker 5>of the guard.

1034
00:44:47.920 --> 00:44:50.280
<v Speaker 3>You know, it was fun, man, We had that year

1035
00:44:50.320 --> 00:44:53.280
<v Speaker 3>on the road with Edge and and you know, post

1036
00:44:53.360 --> 00:44:55.760
<v Speaker 3>Edge was an absolute blast and it was a party.

1037
00:44:55.800 --> 00:44:58.320
<v Speaker 4>It was fun. It was you know, good camaraderie.

1038
00:44:58.360 --> 00:45:01.599
<v Speaker 5>I made some bad decisions Ed Jimmy wad Yag and

1039
00:45:02.079 --> 00:45:03.599
<v Speaker 5>Super Crazy and Brian Ketdrick.

1040
00:45:04.599 --> 00:45:06.719
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, it's fun. It's a fun time.

1041
00:45:07.159 --> 00:45:13.880
<v Speaker 1>We're young, all right, JUNIORI Boyd written very weirdly. But

1042
00:45:14.199 --> 00:45:16.719
<v Speaker 1>do you guys think that there was some more juice

1043
00:45:16.800 --> 00:45:19.320
<v Speaker 1>left in the law familiar thing with like the team

1044
00:45:19.360 --> 00:45:20.480
<v Speaker 1>holding all the gold and all that.

1045
00:45:21.079 --> 00:45:25.960
<v Speaker 3>Yes, yes, yes, And the Edge nothing to really do

1046
00:45:26.000 --> 00:45:28.559
<v Speaker 3>with Matt and I, but Edge and VICKI that angle

1047
00:45:29.000 --> 00:45:32.400
<v Speaker 3>of itself was unbelievable and had so much legs that that.

1048
00:45:32.320 --> 00:45:34.880
<v Speaker 4>Could have kept going for who knows, you know, I.

1049
00:45:34.840 --> 00:45:37.079
<v Speaker 3>Always, looking back, the biggest thing we should have put

1050
00:45:37.320 --> 00:45:40.159
<v Speaker 3>pushed for a T shirt and had like a logo Yeah, yes,

1051
00:45:40.320 --> 00:45:42.679
<v Speaker 3>you need a big, big, big mistake that I don't

1052
00:45:42.719 --> 00:45:45.519
<v Speaker 3>know the way I kind of am.

1053
00:45:45.559 --> 00:45:47.880
<v Speaker 4>But Broski really is like how we didn't think of that?

1054
00:45:48.119 --> 00:45:48.559
<v Speaker 4>I don't know.

1055
00:45:48.639 --> 00:45:53.480
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, Andrew King, was it an easy or hard

1056
00:45:53.519 --> 00:45:56.519
<v Speaker 1>decision for Matt to cut his hair short after being

1057
00:45:56.679 --> 00:45:58.760
<v Speaker 1>long for years? Did he have to push more? We

1058
00:45:58.760 --> 00:45:59.719
<v Speaker 1>already talked about that.

1059
00:45:59.639 --> 00:46:02.719
<v Speaker 3>But I hated long haird only some of the wet

1060
00:46:02.960 --> 00:46:04.960
<v Speaker 3>some of the ugliest long hair in the history of

1061
00:46:04.960 --> 00:46:08.239
<v Speaker 3>the business. And there's that picture of us, like brutally

1062
00:46:08.320 --> 00:46:11.480
<v Speaker 3>hungover at that access where he wrestled Charlie Haas that

1063
00:46:11.880 --> 00:46:15.039
<v Speaker 3>surfaced in the Facebook group, the Patreon facebook group and

1064
00:46:15.480 --> 00:46:17.760
<v Speaker 3>the comments on I just have run wild and it's

1065
00:46:17.800 --> 00:46:20.320
<v Speaker 3>all about Broski's hair because it literally like it's.

1066
00:46:20.159 --> 00:46:21.519
<v Speaker 4>All like dehydrated.

1067
00:46:21.559 --> 00:46:25.199
<v Speaker 3>It looks like a mullet almost like it hated So

1068
00:46:26.320 --> 00:46:26.760
<v Speaker 3>what was.

1069
00:46:26.719 --> 00:46:28.960
<v Speaker 1>Your what was your hairstyle? Like you're just going out,

1070
00:46:29.000 --> 00:46:30.599
<v Speaker 1>so it's not wet, So what would you do?

1071
00:46:31.519 --> 00:46:33.760
<v Speaker 5>I'd have to like slick it back and like the

1072
00:46:33.840 --> 00:46:37.440
<v Speaker 5>mand bun, but not like this wasn't like man bun,

1073
00:46:37.519 --> 00:46:39.800
<v Speaker 5>like brock leslar man bun, it was like like all

1074
00:46:39.800 --> 00:46:41.840
<v Speaker 5>the way in the back, man bud, like fordy tail,

1075
00:46:41.920 --> 00:46:43.360
<v Speaker 5>but like tuck that tail.

1076
00:46:44.239 --> 00:46:50.639
<v Speaker 1>Yes, man, Christy Giovanni, what I did? Dias? Was there

1077
00:46:50.639 --> 00:46:53.000
<v Speaker 1>any so that we haven't talked about? Were there any

1078
00:46:53.000 --> 00:46:53.920
<v Speaker 1>more ideas.

1079
00:46:53.599 --> 00:46:58.519
<v Speaker 4>That you pitched? I don't think then that we missed.

1080
00:47:00.159 --> 00:47:02.639
<v Speaker 1>Here's a fun question. I love this. Aaron Ortiz Brian,

1081
00:47:02.719 --> 00:47:07.280
<v Speaker 1>what was it like working with Vance Archer aka Lance Archer?

1082
00:47:07.320 --> 00:47:09.880
<v Speaker 1>What have you seen Archer improve on other than his

1083
00:47:09.920 --> 00:47:11.800
<v Speaker 1>hairstyle since the time period with you?

1084
00:47:12.920 --> 00:47:15.320
<v Speaker 3>Actually his current hair. I don't know how he lives

1085
00:47:15.320 --> 00:47:20.159
<v Speaker 3>his life with that neon red rattail. Holy smokes. I

1086
00:47:20.199 --> 00:47:22.320
<v Speaker 3>love tagling him. I thought we really clicked. I just

1087
00:47:22.360 --> 00:47:25.599
<v Speaker 3>like that. I never I never got it. This is

1088
00:47:25.599 --> 00:47:30.800
<v Speaker 3>over ten years now, dude, Like this is how it

1089
00:47:30.920 --> 00:47:33.519
<v Speaker 3>went in my head. I've done like if just about

1090
00:47:33.559 --> 00:47:36.400
<v Speaker 3>then a year in FCW, Johnny East calls me and

1091
00:47:36.440 --> 00:47:38.719
<v Speaker 3>he basically plays me like works me. He's like, you

1092
00:47:38.760 --> 00:47:40.679
<v Speaker 3>know you're doing good, and we see potential and everyone

1093
00:47:40.719 --> 00:47:42.519
<v Speaker 3>loves you, and you know we'll eventually find something for you.

1094
00:47:42.599 --> 00:47:44.400
<v Speaker 3>So I want to get you his new contract. It

1095
00:47:44.480 --> 00:47:47.000
<v Speaker 3>had like a smidge of a bump in the money

1096
00:47:47.719 --> 00:47:50.000
<v Speaker 3>and I have for three more years whatever blah blah blah,

1097
00:47:50.039 --> 00:47:51.880
<v Speaker 3>and I was like, okay, cool. I was just grateful

1098
00:47:51.880 --> 00:47:54.119
<v Speaker 3>for it. And then next week I got called up,

1099
00:47:54.159 --> 00:47:55.360
<v Speaker 3>so he knew I was getting called up and he

1100
00:47:55.400 --> 00:47:57.360
<v Speaker 3>wanted to get me while I was like powerless, which

1101
00:47:57.400 --> 00:48:00.599
<v Speaker 3>completely worked business one on one. That's Johnny as is

1102
00:48:00.639 --> 00:48:03.199
<v Speaker 3>therefore got me. I re signed and then just had

1103
00:48:03.199 --> 00:48:04.440
<v Speaker 3>to know whether there like we're gonna put you with Archer

1104
00:48:04.440 --> 00:48:06.599
<v Speaker 3>and you're gonna be a team.

1105
00:48:06.599 --> 00:48:08.000
<v Speaker 4>We're like okay, and then we're like.

1106
00:48:08.000 --> 00:48:09.559
<v Speaker 1>And you knew him because you were training with them

1107
00:48:09.559 --> 00:48:10.119
<v Speaker 1>and all that.

1108
00:48:10.920 --> 00:48:14.480
<v Speaker 3>He had come to FCW, he got randomly called up

1109
00:48:14.519 --> 00:48:20.000
<v Speaker 3>ato ECW and like fizzled out very quickly as the singles,

1110
00:48:20.159 --> 00:48:21.840
<v Speaker 3>and then I think they decided to put us together

1111
00:48:22.000 --> 00:48:24.360
<v Speaker 3>like which I loved, and I liked him as a dude.

1112
00:48:24.400 --> 00:48:26.880
<v Speaker 3>You know, we were friendly enough and he was doing nothing,

1113
00:48:26.960 --> 00:48:28.239
<v Speaker 3>and then I was it was getting me out of

1114
00:48:28.280 --> 00:48:31.199
<v Speaker 3>develop mental so I was pumped. And then you know,

1115
00:48:31.239 --> 00:48:33.599
<v Speaker 3>this is not my pitch nothing. We're running through top guys,

1116
00:48:33.639 --> 00:48:36.440
<v Speaker 3>like we beat Matt already and Christian, We're jumping guys,

1117
00:48:36.480 --> 00:48:37.400
<v Speaker 3>beating MVP.

1118
00:48:37.360 --> 00:48:38.360
<v Speaker 4>Like doing all this cool stuff.

1119
00:48:38.400 --> 00:48:40.880
<v Speaker 3>Or like, I want to say, a month and then

1120
00:48:41.199 --> 00:48:44.320
<v Speaker 3>we had this like stinker match with MVP and JTG

1121
00:48:45.079 --> 00:48:47.239
<v Speaker 3>and it just and that was on Superstars and it

1122
00:48:47.400 --> 00:48:50.679
<v Speaker 3>just died, like just died, died dead.

1123
00:48:51.079 --> 00:48:52.280
<v Speaker 1>What was bad about the match?

1124
00:48:52.840 --> 00:48:55.320
<v Speaker 3>It's not really the it's just not a good match.

1125
00:48:55.360 --> 00:48:57.840
<v Speaker 3>It's not like it's not like a it's not buff

1126
00:48:57.880 --> 00:49:01.440
<v Speaker 3>Booker t end of wsw on raw thing like it's

1127
00:49:01.480 --> 00:49:04.199
<v Speaker 3>just just wasn't great. I liked, I said, I don't

1128
00:49:04.199 --> 00:49:05.920
<v Speaker 3>have the answers, and I've never got the answers, and

1129
00:49:05.960 --> 00:49:08.519
<v Speaker 3>I don't know what that'll happen. I always thought that

1130
00:49:09.480 --> 00:49:12.119
<v Speaker 3>some of the producers didn't dig Archer and they were

1131
00:49:12.119 --> 00:49:15.360
<v Speaker 3>always like, not really in his corner was my thought.

1132
00:49:15.480 --> 00:49:17.760
<v Speaker 3>I have no proof of this, nothing really, but that's

1133
00:49:17.800 --> 00:49:20.679
<v Speaker 3>the sense I felt. And they split us for no

1134
00:49:20.760 --> 00:49:22.880
<v Speaker 3>reason one day and then he was fired like very

1135
00:49:22.880 --> 00:49:25.760
<v Speaker 3>shortly after they kept me so and I think that's

1136
00:49:25.800 --> 00:49:29.639
<v Speaker 3>when the good Karon Hawkins is a good hand ish

1137
00:49:30.039 --> 00:49:32.679
<v Speaker 3>kind of begins good hand walking.

1138
00:49:34.119 --> 00:49:38.960
<v Speaker 1>Okay, so but okay, watching him now, has he even

1139
00:49:39.000 --> 00:49:41.400
<v Speaker 1>proved on anything? Like what are you like? Oh damn cool?

1140
00:49:42.280 --> 00:49:44.679
<v Speaker 3>I love the way it's now like super aggressive and

1141
00:49:44.760 --> 00:49:47.119
<v Speaker 3>you know, completely revamped what he was.

1142
00:49:47.199 --> 00:49:47.440
<v Speaker 4>You know.

1143
00:49:47.880 --> 00:49:52.519
<v Speaker 3>It's funny, like if you know Lance, he's like ridiculously nice.

1144
00:49:52.599 --> 00:49:54.280
<v Speaker 3>So to see him on television and play that guy

1145
00:49:54.280 --> 00:49:56.559
<v Speaker 3>that's supposed to be like this menacing psychopath. That's me

1146
00:49:56.599 --> 00:50:00.480
<v Speaker 3>and everybody. He's a big, big, you know, change, So

1147
00:50:00.559 --> 00:50:02.719
<v Speaker 3>it's cool to see. I'm happy for him, happy for

1148
00:50:02.760 --> 00:50:04.559
<v Speaker 3>his success. Dude, he's being at this for a long time.

1149
00:50:05.320 --> 00:50:07.079
<v Speaker 3>He's gotten up there in age. He's got an awesome

1150
00:50:07.119 --> 00:50:09.159
<v Speaker 3>look now. I mean, I'm happy for his success.

1151
00:50:09.159 --> 00:50:11.800
<v Speaker 5>And he moves so well for somebody who's a so

1152
00:50:11.840 --> 00:50:14.119
<v Speaker 5>big and not that he's so old, but like he's

1153
00:50:14.159 --> 00:50:17.559
<v Speaker 5>not a young dude. Definitely pretty moves just as well

1154
00:50:17.599 --> 00:50:20.039
<v Speaker 5>as he did ten fifteen years ago, and I think

1155
00:50:20.079 --> 00:50:20.679
<v Speaker 5>he looks better.

1156
00:50:21.079 --> 00:50:23.840
<v Speaker 3>I'm back to the beginning. I love tagging with him.

1157
00:50:23.840 --> 00:50:25.719
<v Speaker 3>I thought it was fun as hell. I loved the dynamic,

1158
00:50:26.000 --> 00:50:28.159
<v Speaker 3>big guy, little guy like we would do live events

1159
00:50:28.320 --> 00:50:29.760
<v Speaker 3>ruled he used to.

1160
00:50:29.840 --> 00:50:31.519
<v Speaker 4>He had the tramp stamp back then, and that was

1161
00:50:31.559 --> 00:50:33.440
<v Speaker 4>like instant heat man. Everywhere we went.

1162
00:50:33.480 --> 00:50:35.880
<v Speaker 3>It was so fun, like they were trying tramp damn

1163
00:50:36.000 --> 00:50:37.840
<v Speaker 3>tram stamp and I go up behind and hike up

1164
00:50:37.840 --> 00:50:39.960
<v Speaker 3>his pants and go shut h shushit. It was just

1165
00:50:40.000 --> 00:50:41.599
<v Speaker 3>like it didn't matter where we were. If they didn't

1166
00:50:41.599 --> 00:50:43.800
<v Speaker 3>who we were, boom you got him like it was

1167
00:50:43.800 --> 00:50:45.519
<v Speaker 3>so it was fun man, it was really funny. He

1168
00:50:45.559 --> 00:50:48.079
<v Speaker 3>was right cool to like something Brusky never likes to

1169
00:50:48.119 --> 00:50:49.840
<v Speaker 3>do with me, like go over stuff or like come

1170
00:50:49.920 --> 00:50:52.519
<v Speaker 3>up with new moves and stuff like shit like that.

1171
00:50:52.679 --> 00:50:54.800
<v Speaker 4>He was like super cool about everything, and we really

1172
00:50:54.920 --> 00:50:59.800
<v Speaker 4>enjoyed it. It was just so so short lived, Joseph.

1173
00:51:00.320 --> 00:51:03.400
<v Speaker 1>After the breakup, was there any effects on your collecting habits?

1174
00:51:04.000 --> 00:51:06.800
<v Speaker 1>Was it something that became secondary to focusing on your career?

1175
00:51:06.920 --> 00:51:08.440
<v Speaker 4>Both? This is when this it's just.

1176
00:51:10.960 --> 00:51:15.039
<v Speaker 5>Because because Jack's loses the license. So here's the deal.

1177
00:51:15.119 --> 00:51:17.719
<v Speaker 5>Jack's loses the license, matel takes over. We heard through

1178
00:51:17.719 --> 00:51:20.920
<v Speaker 5>the grape vine that we were I'm sure never even

1179
00:51:20.920 --> 00:51:23.159
<v Speaker 5>got the prototype stage that we were supposed to be

1180
00:51:23.199 --> 00:51:25.320
<v Speaker 5>in the first two back, but we're not.

1181
00:51:27.239 --> 00:51:30.880
<v Speaker 4>In the like why is it the word escaping me?

1182
00:51:30.960 --> 00:51:36.280
<v Speaker 3>We were in the like the list, right, Yeah, so

1183
00:51:36.280 --> 00:51:38.199
<v Speaker 3>that's that's right.

1184
00:51:38.280 --> 00:51:42.280
<v Speaker 4>So then when those lineup we made, we made the lineup, right, But.

1185
00:51:42.239 --> 00:51:45.880
<v Speaker 5>Then when the when the actual figures come out, it's

1186
00:51:45.880 --> 00:51:48.920
<v Speaker 5>like such a year behind that like the writings on

1187
00:51:48.960 --> 00:51:51.679
<v Speaker 5>the wall that oh my god, there's no way they're

1188
00:51:51.719 --> 00:51:53.719
<v Speaker 5>getting the MATEL figure me anytime soon.

1189
00:51:54.760 --> 00:51:56.719
<v Speaker 3>I'm in f C W know and it's not even

1190
00:51:56.760 --> 00:52:01.880
<v Speaker 3>on the table. And also like Jack's, we knew Jack's

1191
00:52:01.960 --> 00:52:03.400
<v Speaker 3>was done because we were like, you know, hip to

1192
00:52:03.440 --> 00:52:05.199
<v Speaker 3>the industry and what's going on, and like.

1193
00:52:05.599 --> 00:52:10.920
<v Speaker 4>That last year of Jack's is I mean, no, no deco.

1194
00:52:11.480 --> 00:52:13.599
<v Speaker 3>It's not even worth collecting or looking for, you know,

1195
00:52:13.719 --> 00:52:15.920
<v Speaker 3>So like it was over man beside, I remember the

1196
00:52:16.000 --> 00:52:18.760
<v Speaker 3>last thing I got excited about was getting uh Tyson

1197
00:52:18.800 --> 00:52:19.440
<v Speaker 3>kids first action.

1198
00:52:19.559 --> 00:52:22.039
<v Speaker 4>Figured that was it. I mean, then it was over

1199
00:52:22.079 --> 00:52:22.320
<v Speaker 4>for me.

1200
00:52:22.360 --> 00:52:24.760
<v Speaker 5>And one thing that sucked for us is that we

1201
00:52:24.880 --> 00:52:26.880
<v Speaker 5>I mean we do have the the sample of it

1202
00:52:26.920 --> 00:52:29.599
<v Speaker 5>and the handpaint of prototype. We were supposed to have

1203
00:52:30.039 --> 00:52:33.320
<v Speaker 5>uh A two pack of us in the gear where

1204
00:52:33.320 --> 00:52:34.760
<v Speaker 5>we won the take team titles. This was some of

1205
00:52:34.760 --> 00:52:38.400
<v Speaker 5>the kids tag team title Walmart exclusive and it gets cut.

1206
00:52:38.519 --> 00:52:41.440
<v Speaker 5>But the good news is we got the prototype.

1207
00:52:41.559 --> 00:52:43.079
<v Speaker 4>Did we get the handpain the one or just a

1208
00:52:43.119 --> 00:52:46.760
<v Speaker 4>sample both? I have both. I'm looking at my collestion.

1209
00:52:46.840 --> 00:52:49.280
<v Speaker 4>I don't know where my prototype is. I have both.

1210
00:52:49.440 --> 00:52:52.079
<v Speaker 3>I have I have and I have two samples, like, oh,

1211
00:52:52.119 --> 00:53:00.519
<v Speaker 3>I might have sold the other second sample actually recently. Yeah,

1212
00:53:00.639 --> 00:53:02.760
<v Speaker 3>I don't know what I'm collecting at this point. Second,

1213
00:53:02.760 --> 00:53:04.599
<v Speaker 3>like I was really into like wrestling DVDs.

1214
00:53:06.840 --> 00:53:09.719
<v Speaker 5>I'm like, so I'm not defeated by the business in

1215
00:53:09.760 --> 00:53:12.400
<v Speaker 5>any like like way, shape or form, but it's like

1216
00:53:12.880 --> 00:53:15.360
<v Speaker 5>I'm not like overly positive and loving it that I

1217
00:53:15.360 --> 00:53:17.960
<v Speaker 5>want to be buying the toys, if that makes sense.

1218
00:53:18.119 --> 00:53:20.559
<v Speaker 1>After the Edgehead's run was over, where there are more

1219
00:53:20.559 --> 00:53:22.800
<v Speaker 1>people in the locker room that knew about your collecting

1220
00:53:22.840 --> 00:53:25.320
<v Speaker 1>habits and were accepting of them. So around this time

1221
00:53:25.480 --> 00:53:30.199
<v Speaker 1>was that coming out or I don't not really, that

1222
00:53:30.239 --> 00:53:31.719
<v Speaker 1>didn't come for later years.

1223
00:53:31.599 --> 00:53:33.920
<v Speaker 3>Right, Yeah, I don't even I still at this one.

1224
00:53:34.000 --> 00:53:37.280
<v Speaker 3>We're not just talking about that, okay for sure, not

1225
00:53:37.280 --> 00:53:40.440
<v Speaker 3>not amongst casuals. Like our closest friends obviously know because

1226
00:53:40.480 --> 00:53:42.119
<v Speaker 3>if they travel with us, they'd know it. It's like

1227
00:53:42.159 --> 00:53:44.320
<v Speaker 3>to like stop and look for things and whatever, you know,

1228
00:53:44.719 --> 00:53:45.320
<v Speaker 3>that kind of thing.

1229
00:53:45.559 --> 00:53:48.639
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, all right, I know you guys have talked about

1230
00:53:48.639 --> 00:53:51.000
<v Speaker 1>this like that you thought that this would happen. But

1231
00:53:51.079 --> 00:53:53.840
<v Speaker 1>Russ Linderman asks, were there any plans ever discussed for

1232
00:53:53.840 --> 00:53:57.599
<v Speaker 1>a feud with edge or Chavo like anything out loud

1233
00:53:57.800 --> 00:54:02.000
<v Speaker 1>between anybody other than the two never Brian chairs, did

1234
00:54:02.000 --> 00:54:03.920
<v Speaker 1>you guys keep in touch with Edge after the breakup?

1235
00:54:03.960 --> 00:54:06.119
<v Speaker 1>I know you guys still talk today, but immediately after

1236
00:54:06.119 --> 00:54:08.159
<v Speaker 1>the split, was he still available for you guys to

1237
00:54:08.239 --> 00:54:09.599
<v Speaker 1>talk and get advice from.

1238
00:54:09.760 --> 00:54:11.599
<v Speaker 3>I mean, he's right right there with Brosky unless he's

1239
00:54:11.599 --> 00:54:14.239
<v Speaker 3>on raw. But now, oh, you know what, he tears

1240
00:54:14.239 --> 00:54:16.199
<v Speaker 3>his achilles and I like hang out with him in

1241
00:54:16.199 --> 00:54:18.880
<v Speaker 3>his house all the time because he lived in Tampa

1242
00:54:18.920 --> 00:54:23.079
<v Speaker 3>and that's where FCW was. Uh So the summer, early

1243
00:54:23.119 --> 00:54:25.280
<v Speaker 3>summer of nine, he tears his achilles and he's like

1244
00:54:25.360 --> 00:54:26.880
<v Speaker 3>out out for a good while.

1245
00:54:27.039 --> 00:54:28.679
<v Speaker 1>Achilles is a bad injury, It's.

1246
00:54:28.519 --> 00:54:29.719
<v Speaker 4>A bad sports injury.

1247
00:54:29.800 --> 00:54:33.239
<v Speaker 3>So then he would invite like me, Trent and like

1248
00:54:33.320 --> 00:54:34.760
<v Speaker 3>Canlacroft over, like all the time.

1249
00:54:34.760 --> 00:54:36.519
<v Speaker 4>We'd go watch all the papers at his place.

1250
00:54:36.800 --> 00:54:38.960
<v Speaker 3>Was it was like I got even closer to him,

1251
00:54:39.239 --> 00:54:41.559
<v Speaker 3>believe it or not, in the move.

1252
00:54:41.760 --> 00:54:42.880
<v Speaker 4>It was really crazy.

1253
00:54:43.559 --> 00:54:46.760
<v Speaker 1>And now he does our show opening every year.

1254
00:54:47.199 --> 00:54:49.000
<v Speaker 4>It's true. Yeah, it's a tradition. Tradition.

1255
00:54:49.280 --> 00:54:52.960
<v Speaker 1>Anthony Diaz, How was it working with Chavo Guerrero. Any

1256
00:54:52.960 --> 00:54:54.960
<v Speaker 1>advice he gave you? Guys, we did that awesome interview

1257
00:54:54.960 --> 00:54:55.559
<v Speaker 1>with him recently.

1258
00:54:55.639 --> 00:54:58.119
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I love Java. I think that was a year ago,

1259
00:54:58.239 --> 00:55:01.320
<v Speaker 4>b year ago. I don't know if he's.

1260
00:55:01.199 --> 00:55:04.840
<v Speaker 5>Ever given us like, you know, I can't think of

1261
00:55:04.880 --> 00:55:07.159
<v Speaker 5>one thing that he has said specifically, but just being

1262
00:55:07.199 --> 00:55:09.360
<v Speaker 5>around him, you know what. Fuck I'll say this, and

1263
00:55:09.400 --> 00:55:12.000
<v Speaker 5>this is not something he ever said, but he on

1264
00:55:12.079 --> 00:55:15.559
<v Speaker 5>tour would bring so much different gear, like different tights

1265
00:55:15.559 --> 00:55:17.400
<v Speaker 5>for every night of the loop, and that's something that

1266
00:55:17.840 --> 00:55:20.199
<v Speaker 5>stuck with me. I think it's just very professional.

1267
00:55:22.280 --> 00:55:25.639
<v Speaker 3>Java was always a good dude. Uh, fun to be around,

1268
00:55:26.320 --> 00:55:29.039
<v Speaker 3>takes his shirt off a lot. Yeah, life of the

1269
00:55:29.079 --> 00:55:32.199
<v Speaker 3>party of those he's life for the party type of guy. Yeah,

1270
00:55:32.239 --> 00:55:33.320
<v Speaker 3>for sure, I love you.

1271
00:55:33.840 --> 00:55:35.760
<v Speaker 4>That's interesting. I just did a Gallos.

1272
00:55:35.440 --> 00:55:37.880
<v Speaker 3>Show with him and he was awesome to be around

1273
00:55:38.039 --> 00:55:39.079
<v Speaker 3>and in great shape.

1274
00:55:39.119 --> 00:55:42.920
<v Speaker 1>So well. He thought my tie holder was very o CD,

1275
00:55:43.679 --> 00:55:47.960
<v Speaker 1>like I bring my ties in a tie case. Anthony Diaz,

1276
00:55:48.079 --> 00:55:52.760
<v Speaker 1>Oh no, that was him. Uh. He asked how where

1277
00:55:52.800 --> 00:55:55.599
<v Speaker 1>the Zach Ryder character was inspired from? But we don't

1278
00:55:55.599 --> 00:55:57.400
<v Speaker 1>even talk about that. All right, let's finish this out.

1279
00:55:58.199 --> 00:56:03.400
<v Speaker 1>Did Yeah, we already talked about that. Okay, what's like

1280
00:56:03.440 --> 00:56:07.280
<v Speaker 1>the close off to this period in your mind. What

1281
00:56:07.280 --> 00:56:09.760
<v Speaker 1>what where are you? Guys? I'm so brosky. You're on ECW.

1282
00:56:10.039 --> 00:56:12.639
<v Speaker 1>You get some some notable.

1283
00:56:12.199 --> 00:56:17.480
<v Speaker 5>Feuds, like it does so much for me, and I

1284
00:56:17.480 --> 00:56:20.519
<v Speaker 5>feel like that could be its own like episode because

1285
00:56:20.880 --> 00:56:24.599
<v Speaker 5>you know the Rory Fox incident, you know wherever boff

1286
00:56:24.679 --> 00:56:26.360
<v Speaker 5>is tights, you know. Then I get put in these

1287
00:56:26.400 --> 00:56:29.440
<v Speaker 5>matches with Christian, then I get I get trusted with

1288
00:56:29.800 --> 00:56:33.280
<v Speaker 5>a microphone, and it gives me the confidence, you know

1289
00:56:33.400 --> 00:56:35.679
<v Speaker 5>to cut these these live promos and stuff like that.

1290
00:56:35.719 --> 00:56:38.719
<v Speaker 5>And then also to the wrestle guys like Christian, uh

1291
00:56:39.880 --> 00:56:42.159
<v Speaker 5>who a not only one of the best wrestlers, like

1292
00:56:42.199 --> 00:56:43.880
<v Speaker 5>of all type of one of my favorites for sure,

1293
00:56:44.119 --> 00:56:46.639
<v Speaker 5>and like that first match that I have with him, like,

1294
00:56:47.079 --> 00:56:49.119
<v Speaker 5>oh my god, I am so blown up and he's

1295
00:56:49.159 --> 00:56:51.559
<v Speaker 5>absolute probaly can carry me through. And we talked about

1296
00:56:51.559 --> 00:56:54.039
<v Speaker 5>like not having singles matches and then I'm doing a

1297
00:56:54.079 --> 00:56:56.800
<v Speaker 5>couple of squashes and then I'm wrestling in the World

1298
00:56:56.880 --> 00:56:58.960
<v Speaker 5>champ you know, so if he get.

1299
00:56:58.840 --> 00:57:01.519
<v Speaker 4>From three segs or whatever, yeah, yeah.

1300
00:57:01.280 --> 00:57:04.599
<v Speaker 1>So so the LIX, So why don't we button that

1301
00:57:04.880 --> 00:57:07.880
<v Speaker 1>and then the next show we'll talk about sort of

1302
00:57:07.880 --> 00:57:14.079
<v Speaker 1>ECW two, the the YouTube show, and then Brian, how

1303
00:57:14.119 --> 00:57:15.920
<v Speaker 1>do how will we get closing out this? When do

1304
00:57:15.960 --> 00:57:17.039
<v Speaker 1>you get called back up?

1305
00:57:18.199 --> 00:57:22.000
<v Speaker 3>It's like the same time twenty May of twenty ten,

1306
00:57:23.360 --> 00:57:25.119
<v Speaker 3>and then if you do a year from that, that's

1307
00:57:25.119 --> 00:57:26.320
<v Speaker 3>about when you start the show.

1308
00:57:26.400 --> 00:57:28.079
<v Speaker 4>And I think we're both un raw at that point

1309
00:57:28.079 --> 00:57:28.639
<v Speaker 4>we get both.

1310
00:57:28.920 --> 00:57:33.440
<v Speaker 5>Because what happens is, you know, the ECW run is great,

1311
00:57:34.400 --> 00:57:37.559
<v Speaker 5>but like, uh, there's so there's so much like starting stuff.

1312
00:57:37.599 --> 00:57:39.159
<v Speaker 5>Like there were times where I tell like, oh my god,

1313
00:57:39.199 --> 00:57:42.920
<v Speaker 5>like I'm gonna win this ECW title, like legit, like

1314
00:57:42.920 --> 00:57:45.159
<v Speaker 5>like this could actually happen, like I retire Tommy Dreamer,

1315
00:57:45.639 --> 00:57:48.920
<v Speaker 5>like things were going great. Uh, and then I'll never

1316
00:57:48.960 --> 00:57:52.840
<v Speaker 5>forget Johnny Ace pulls the whole ECW roster aside. It

1317
00:57:52.840 --> 00:57:55.280
<v Speaker 5>says like ECW's is dead next week.

1318
00:57:55.599 --> 00:57:57.360
<v Speaker 4>What then they start.

1319
00:57:57.199 --> 00:57:58.960
<v Speaker 3>Were being there being like well that's weird. There was

1320
00:57:58.960 --> 00:58:00.599
<v Speaker 3>this weird meeting because that on s back down.

1321
00:58:00.679 --> 00:58:01.719
<v Speaker 4>So I was there.

1322
00:58:02.400 --> 00:58:06.960
<v Speaker 5>And there's no but when did you debut again May

1323
00:58:07.199 --> 00:58:10.679
<v Speaker 5>twenty ten? Yeah, but you weren't on Smackdad yet because

1324
00:58:10.679 --> 00:58:14.559
<v Speaker 5>this is like January ten, Tuary.

1325
00:58:15.920 --> 00:58:18.119
<v Speaker 3>Remember they sent me to Rumble just to do like

1326
00:58:18.159 --> 00:58:21.000
<v Speaker 3>photos and stuff. I think it was that weekend. I

1327
00:58:21.039 --> 00:58:23.199
<v Speaker 3>know you're saying it because that's how NXC starts, like

1328
00:58:23.239 --> 00:58:23.960
<v Speaker 3>in February.

1329
00:58:24.079 --> 00:58:24.960
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that's interesting.

1330
00:58:25.280 --> 00:58:28.400
<v Speaker 5>That's why then I get, you know, all the success

1331
00:58:28.480 --> 00:58:32.199
<v Speaker 5>that I had on E c W. You know, now

1332
00:58:32.239 --> 00:58:36.280
<v Speaker 5>I moved to raw and this expression, you know, I

1333
00:58:36.280 --> 00:58:37.440
<v Speaker 5>hate using it, but it's it's true.

1334
00:58:37.440 --> 00:58:39.320
<v Speaker 4>I was a big fish in.

1335
00:58:39.280 --> 00:58:41.880
<v Speaker 5>A small pond on EA c W and then I

1336
00:58:41.960 --> 00:58:45.119
<v Speaker 5>moved to raw and I just got lost in the

1337
00:58:45.119 --> 00:58:47.559
<v Speaker 5>shuffle instantly, you know.

1338
00:58:47.840 --> 00:58:51.039
<v Speaker 4>Of course, It's just it's just was unfortunate. It's just

1339
00:58:51.039 --> 00:58:51.880
<v Speaker 4>one of those things.

1340
00:58:52.440 --> 00:58:55.199
<v Speaker 1>So and the first time you're back, Brian, is that

1341
00:58:55.559 --> 00:58:56.880
<v Speaker 1>failed run with.

1342
00:58:57.199 --> 00:58:59.719
<v Speaker 4>Archer, the bizarre Archer tag run.

1343
00:58:59.800 --> 00:59:01.320
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, do you go back after that?

1344
00:59:01.440 --> 00:59:06.519
<v Speaker 4>Or you're then I'm up till like IET fired two years.

1345
00:59:06.519 --> 00:59:08.840
<v Speaker 5>Okay, so then you're you're not at that. You're not

1346
00:59:08.960 --> 00:59:11.719
<v Speaker 5>at that WrestleMania, right, Brian, Dude.

1347
00:59:11.559 --> 00:59:13.760
<v Speaker 4>That was wild, Like papaupar I can tell you about that.

1348
00:59:14.280 --> 00:59:17.840
<v Speaker 3>So in my WW run, my friends, my like like

1349
00:59:18.079 --> 00:59:19.960
<v Speaker 3>civilian friends as I would call them, like high school

1350
00:59:19.960 --> 00:59:21.880
<v Speaker 3>buddies like Papa Bear and stuff would come to WrestleMania.

1351
00:59:21.920 --> 00:59:24.360
<v Speaker 3>So the first year was Orlando, and like I said,

1352
00:59:24.440 --> 00:59:27.440
<v Speaker 3>I'm twenty two, twenty three, like single, Like this is

1353
00:59:27.440 --> 00:59:29.880
<v Speaker 3>like a destination like awesome thing for me and all

1354
00:59:29.920 --> 00:59:33.199
<v Speaker 3>my friends in my family too. So that one, you know,

1355
00:59:33.360 --> 00:59:35.840
<v Speaker 3>we do Orlando, then my friends going to Dallas or

1356
00:59:35.840 --> 00:59:39.119
<v Speaker 3>we're not sorry Houston, So this one is Phoenix and

1357
00:59:39.159 --> 00:59:42.119
<v Speaker 3>I'm in FCW, but I'm like, but I'm still a

1358
00:59:42.119 --> 00:59:44.559
<v Speaker 3>main roster guy and I stillot that was responsibilities in

1359
00:59:44.559 --> 00:59:46.400
<v Speaker 3>that contract. So I was like talking to the office

1360
00:59:46.440 --> 00:59:47.440
<v Speaker 3>like am I going?

1361
00:59:47.480 --> 00:59:47.920
<v Speaker 4>Am I going?

1362
00:59:47.960 --> 00:59:50.159
<v Speaker 3>I never got a straight answer, and then like man,

1363
00:59:50.239 --> 00:59:52.000
<v Speaker 3>like I want to say three or four days before

1364
00:59:52.039 --> 00:59:55.400
<v Speaker 3>they're like you're not needed for access or whatever, You're

1365
00:59:55.440 --> 00:59:57.320
<v Speaker 3>not going. So I had like call my buddies and

1366
00:59:57.360 --> 00:59:58.800
<v Speaker 3>be like, bro, we got to change your tickets to

1367
00:59:59.679 --> 01:00:03.559
<v Speaker 3>TAMP And then it was a very light week of

1368
01:00:03.599 --> 01:00:06.840
<v Speaker 3>like FCW duty's because like most people were at Mania

1369
01:00:07.000 --> 01:00:08.960
<v Speaker 3>or whatever, you know, Hall of Fame a lot of stuff.

1370
01:00:09.280 --> 01:00:12.400
<v Speaker 3>So we just had the best time, like Raged with

1371
01:00:12.480 --> 01:00:14.679
<v Speaker 3>Johnny Curtis and Tampa went out every night.

1372
01:00:14.719 --> 01:00:15.760
<v Speaker 4>It was so fun.

1373
01:00:15.800 --> 01:00:18.159
<v Speaker 3>I had like very fond memories of it, like like

1374
01:00:18.199 --> 01:00:21.800
<v Speaker 3>an awesome time ended up being. But that's so I

1375
01:00:21.800 --> 01:00:23.760
<v Speaker 3>missed the Mania and that's not the first time I

1376
01:00:23.760 --> 01:00:27.239
<v Speaker 3>missed Mania the Daniel Bryan Yere thirty. I was also

1377
01:00:27.320 --> 01:00:30.480
<v Speaker 3>under contract and they just did not bring me like

1378
01:00:30.599 --> 01:00:33.800
<v Speaker 3>the ultimate, the ultimate piece of shit feeling. I could

1379
01:00:33.840 --> 01:00:34.239
<v Speaker 3>do that.

1380
01:00:34.960 --> 01:00:35.199
<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

1381
01:00:35.360 --> 01:00:37.679
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and that was before you got fired and I

1382
01:00:37.719 --> 01:00:39.599
<v Speaker 3>get fired like a month or two later for the

1383
01:00:39.639 --> 01:00:40.079
<v Speaker 3>first time.

1384
01:00:40.239 --> 01:00:42.199
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, that Mania.

1385
01:00:42.360 --> 01:00:44.719
<v Speaker 5>I'm in the Battle Royal and I last to the

1386
01:00:44.719 --> 01:00:47.920
<v Speaker 5>final two with Yoshi Tatsu and he wins.

1387
01:00:48.239 --> 01:00:49.960
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, So what do we want to do for the

1388
01:00:49.960 --> 01:00:50.800
<v Speaker 1>next one? Do we do?

1389
01:00:51.000 --> 01:00:51.079
<v Speaker 5>Like?

1390
01:00:52.480 --> 01:00:52.800
<v Speaker 4>I don't know.

1391
01:00:52.800 --> 01:00:55.679
<v Speaker 1>I feel Brian gets called up to like where when

1392
01:00:55.679 --> 01:00:57.239
<v Speaker 1>it gets swir dish.

1393
01:00:56.920 --> 01:00:57.960
<v Speaker 4>I feel like too much.

1394
01:00:58.199 --> 01:01:00.239
<v Speaker 5>I feel like we're I feel like now we're too

1395
01:01:00.239 --> 01:01:03.000
<v Speaker 5>separate where it's like it's too separate and you're in

1396
01:01:03.079 --> 01:01:07.960
<v Speaker 5>cringing on his other podcast, Like I think like I think, yeah,

1397
01:01:08.079 --> 01:01:10.039
<v Speaker 5>I think we did it. I mean I think we started.

1398
01:01:10.559 --> 01:01:13.880
<v Speaker 4>We did it some new concepts.

1399
01:01:14.039 --> 01:01:17.199
<v Speaker 1>Because like there's no name Mark Malibu, next time mark Malibu.

1400
01:01:17.519 --> 01:01:20.119
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, this is your life. I mean.

1401
01:01:20.159 --> 01:01:21.480
<v Speaker 5>The only thing I can think of is if you

1402
01:01:21.639 --> 01:01:24.199
<v Speaker 5>like press fast forward on your remote and you go

1403
01:01:24.320 --> 01:01:27.480
<v Speaker 5>to how we start as a team again.

1404
01:01:29.000 --> 01:01:29.440
<v Speaker 1>Could do that.

1405
01:01:30.440 --> 01:01:32.440
<v Speaker 4>I'm sure people have interested in that.

1406
01:01:32.000 --> 01:01:34.320
<v Speaker 1>That's so fresh in people's brains. I bet you they

1407
01:01:34.320 --> 01:01:35.320
<v Speaker 1>have tons of questions.

1408
01:01:35.440 --> 01:01:36.880
<v Speaker 5>Yeah so, I mean, and that could be since the

1409
01:01:36.960 --> 01:01:38.960
<v Speaker 5>run wasn't that long, it could be the entire run

1410
01:01:39.880 --> 01:01:41.199
<v Speaker 5>from from doing.

1411
01:01:41.000 --> 01:01:42.079
<v Speaker 4>Nothing to get fired.

1412
01:01:42.440 --> 01:01:45.840
<v Speaker 5>Sure, yea, that there's really no reason to do like

1413
01:01:45.880 --> 01:01:46.880
<v Speaker 5>what did you do this week?

1414
01:01:46.880 --> 01:01:47.880
<v Speaker 4>Brian, what do you do this week?

1415
01:01:48.079 --> 01:01:50.679
<v Speaker 5>It's like, yeah, this was this was the story of

1416
01:01:50.760 --> 01:01:52.800
<v Speaker 5>us together and this is kind of how we went

1417
01:01:52.880 --> 01:01:53.599
<v Speaker 5>our separate ways.

1418
01:01:53.719 --> 01:01:55.800
<v Speaker 3>Not not to mention he has like the writer revolution

1419
01:01:55.880 --> 01:01:59.000
<v Speaker 3>going on, and I'm like, wrestling, JTG and Superstars is

1420
01:01:59.000 --> 01:01:59.679
<v Speaker 3>not really much to.

1421
01:01:59.719 --> 01:02:03.039
<v Speaker 4>Like to talk about to compare it to you.

1422
01:02:03.000 --> 01:02:07.199
<v Speaker 5>Know, I think these episodes are really cool and it's

1423
01:02:07.199 --> 01:02:09.400
<v Speaker 5>like a history lesson is a trip down memory lane,

1424
01:02:09.400 --> 01:02:12.800
<v Speaker 5>and I think, you know, I do think we can

1425
01:02:13.000 --> 01:02:15.679
<v Speaker 5>revisit because it's definitely things we didn't talk about, especially

1426
01:02:15.719 --> 01:02:21.480
<v Speaker 5>Deep South. Goddamn, it's fucking insane went down there. But

1427
01:02:21.599 --> 01:02:24.199
<v Speaker 5>uh yeah, this this this breaking up of the edgeheads,

1428
01:02:24.199 --> 01:02:26.400
<v Speaker 5>it was. It was bittersweet, of course, you don't want

1429
01:02:26.400 --> 01:02:30.559
<v Speaker 5>to lose, you know, like that spot being with the

1430
01:02:30.599 --> 01:02:32.440
<v Speaker 5>world champion and then.

1431
01:02:32.360 --> 01:02:34.639
<v Speaker 3>When you're young and that green like I remember just

1432
01:02:35.320 --> 01:02:37.039
<v Speaker 3>thinking this is never going to end kind of thing,

1433
01:02:37.639 --> 01:02:39.519
<v Speaker 3>you know. That's the way I did feel about it.

1434
01:02:39.519 --> 01:02:41.840
<v Speaker 3>So it was it was a good life lesson, you know,

1435
01:02:41.920 --> 01:02:45.519
<v Speaker 3>blessing in disguise. Well, I got a year of tutelage

1436
01:02:45.519 --> 01:02:47.960
<v Speaker 3>from the American Dream Dusty Roads that was invaluable and

1437
01:02:48.360 --> 01:02:51.280
<v Speaker 3>instilled the confidence in me to talk, which is something

1438
01:02:51.320 --> 01:02:54.119
<v Speaker 3>we basically never did, you know something it was that

1439
01:02:54.280 --> 01:02:56.480
<v Speaker 3>was a tool that I needed in my tool belt

1440
01:02:56.559 --> 01:02:59.559
<v Speaker 3>badly and didn't even realize. And I got, like, you know,

1441
01:02:59.639 --> 01:03:03.320
<v Speaker 3>the best education you can get. Yeah, for sure, I'm

1442
01:03:03.360 --> 01:03:06.519
<v Speaker 3>super grateful for that. That's another thing that altered my career.

1443
01:03:06.760 --> 01:03:09.199
<v Speaker 3>And then on the flip side, where Brosky's like he's

1444
01:03:09.199 --> 01:03:11.079
<v Speaker 3>wrestling Christian you know some of the best wrestlers of

1445
01:03:11.079 --> 01:03:11.719
<v Speaker 3>the world.

1446
01:03:11.599 --> 01:03:12.280
<v Speaker 4>I'm the opposite.

1447
01:03:12.320 --> 01:03:16.639
<v Speaker 3>I'm wrestling you know, David David o'tanga in his third match,

1448
01:03:16.679 --> 01:03:19.840
<v Speaker 3>Ye had the Bray Wyatt and Bo Dallas in their

1449
01:03:19.960 --> 01:03:23.079
<v Speaker 3>fifth match, like trying to pull like I learned in

1450
01:03:23.079 --> 01:03:25.079
<v Speaker 3>that sense, like trying to pull something out of these

1451
01:03:25.280 --> 01:03:28.079
<v Speaker 3>super young, you know, green guys, like trying to you know,

1452
01:03:28.360 --> 01:03:30.960
<v Speaker 3>bring them up to my level, which wasn't much.

1453
01:03:30.760 --> 01:03:32.559
<v Speaker 4>But still higher than what they were.

1454
01:03:32.639 --> 01:03:35.800
<v Speaker 3>You know, that's another stepping stone of like my learning

1455
01:03:35.880 --> 01:03:38.320
<v Speaker 3>is like a wrestler, you know, being in those situations. Yeah,

1456
01:03:38.960 --> 01:03:40.519
<v Speaker 3>and then on the flip side, eventually I got to like,

1457
01:03:40.599 --> 01:03:43.880
<v Speaker 3>you know, I wrestled Brian Danielson and Loki and all

1458
01:03:43.880 --> 01:03:46.199
<v Speaker 3>these like pretty crazy, awesome, big time matches.

1459
01:03:48.039 --> 01:03:50.519
<v Speaker 1>All right, well, great job guys, thanks for asking us

1460
01:03:50.599 --> 01:03:53.400
<v Speaker 1>questions this month, and we'll be back next month with

1461
01:03:55.440 --> 01:03:59.519
<v Speaker 1>I joined your lives at this point, so I'll remember

1462
01:03:59.559 --> 01:04:00.000
<v Speaker 1>some of these.

1463
01:04:00.079 --> 01:04:00.920
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, you're in some of this.

1464
01:04:01.079 --> 01:04:04.320
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, all right, thanks guys.

1465
01:04:04.320 --> 01:04:04.679
<v Speaker 4>See it.

1466
01:04:07.320 --> 01:04:12.039
<v Speaker 2>How shock

1467
01:05:00.079 --> 01:05:02.079
<v Speaker 4>The Tap
