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<v Speaker 1>In June two thousand, the Austin's enjoyed what was to

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<v Speaker 1>be their last family holiday. A month after this home

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<v Speaker 1>video was filmed, three members of the family were dead.

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<v Speaker 1>On the tenth of July, Claire Austin didn't turn up

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<v Speaker 1>for her shift as a carer. Her husband, Philip, visited

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<v Speaker 1>her place of work.

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<v Speaker 2>He'd told them that his wife wouldn't be in that

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<v Speaker 2>day because she had back trouble. A man apparently at

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<v Speaker 2>ease with himself and with the world.

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<v Speaker 1>In reality, Claire was lying lifeless in a pool of

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<v Speaker 1>blood on her kitchen floor, murdered by her own husband.

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<v Speaker 1>But Philip Austin wasn't finished yet. Later that day, he

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<v Speaker 1>calmly collected his children from school.

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<v Speaker 3>This isn't a red miss decision. This isn't, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>a loss of temper. This is a reason decision that

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<v Speaker 3>a man has made that he's going to murder both.

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<v Speaker 1>Of his children after taking them out for a fish

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<v Speaker 1>and chip supper.

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<v Speaker 4>He strangled them.

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<v Speaker 5>He killed his entire family, He killed the family that

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<v Speaker 5>he had created, and he did so in such a

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<v Speaker 5>call and such a calm way.

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<v Speaker 6>Into are half of my family out of our lives?

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<v Speaker 1>Philip Austin had committed the unthinkable and undoubtedly become one

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<v Speaker 1>of the world's most evil killers. In the summer of

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<v Speaker 1>two thousand, the Austin family had disappeared and there was

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<v Speaker 1>no answer.

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<v Speaker 4>On the home phone.

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<v Speaker 1>This was completely out of character, and as former Detective

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<v Speaker 1>Inspector Anti Tenant remembers, local people were starting to worry.

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<v Speaker 3>The children had not been at school for a week,

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<v Speaker 3>and this was during term time and no application had

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<v Speaker 3>been made to take the children at school. The community

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<v Speaker 3>itself were a little bit anxious because they hadn't seen

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<v Speaker 3>the family for a while. In fact, one neighbor had

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<v Speaker 3>been out to Claire's car and had even taken the

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<v Speaker 3>measure of marking the tires against the curb to see

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<v Speaker 3>if the car moved overnight, but it didn't.

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<v Speaker 1>The horrifying truth behind their absence would soon be revealed.

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<v Speaker 1>On Monday, the seventeenth of July two thousand, the bodies

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<v Speaker 1>of thirty one year old Claire Austin and her children,

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<v Speaker 1>Kieran eight and Jade seven were discovered in the family home.

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<v Speaker 1>The prime suspect was their thirty one year old husband

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<v Speaker 1>and father, Philip Austin, who was nowhere to be found.

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<v Speaker 2>The damage that he did was not just limited to

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<v Speaker 2>the three souls who lost their lives, but has affected everyone, relatives, friends.

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<v Speaker 4>It was a desperate thing to do.

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<v Speaker 1>The quiet suburban street in the Standon's Barn area of

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<v Speaker 1>Northampton had been the family's home for eight years. They'd

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<v Speaker 1>appeared to neighbors to be an ordinary family. Now their

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<v Speaker 1>home was a crime scene.

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<v Speaker 5>When we have a family who appear to be normal

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<v Speaker 5>from the outside and there is a domestic homicide and

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<v Speaker 5>the children are killed, there's a tendency to think that

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<v Speaker 5>these men have just snapped, they have.

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<v Speaker 6>Just lost it.

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<v Speaker 5>But that is not what happens at all. You do

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<v Speaker 5>not go from being a psychologically healthy individual one day

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<v Speaker 5>to killing your family the next. These cases, they're not

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<v Speaker 5>about a loss of control. If anything, they're a way

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<v Speaker 5>of gaining control.

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<v Speaker 1>This killer's story begins in nineteen sixty nine. Philip Austin

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<v Speaker 1>was born that Valentine's Day in Northampton.

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<v Speaker 5>His mother worked in a care home. His father was

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<v Speaker 5>a lorry driver. This was a very traditional, nuclear family

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<v Speaker 5>and he was an only child.

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<v Speaker 1>Philip's aunt, Mary Taylor, remembers that he was a reserve

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<v Speaker 1>little boy.

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<v Speaker 7>We always noticed that he was quiet. I mean, if

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<v Speaker 7>he was with more son, he sort of opened up

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<v Speaker 7>a bit, but other than that he was always quiet.

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<v Speaker 2>He was one of those boys that alls stood on

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<v Speaker 2>the sidelines, always watching, never initiating anything.

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<v Speaker 1>After finishing school, Philip Austin went to work in a

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<v Speaker 1>factory before securing a job in the warehouse for a

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<v Speaker 1>supermarket chain.

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<v Speaker 2>He was living with his mum and dad while working

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<v Speaker 2>as a forklift truck driver, and then in nineteen ninety

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<v Speaker 2>one he met a girl called Claire.

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<v Speaker 4>Golden, twenty one year old.

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<v Speaker 1>Claire's close friend Diane Beale remembers.

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<v Speaker 4>How she loved a night out.

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<v Speaker 8>We used to be on the dance floor dancing together,

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<v Speaker 8>and everybody who's watched us, and we didn't care.

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<v Speaker 6>She was such fun, she really was.

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<v Speaker 1>On the night in question, Claire was out with another

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<v Speaker 1>group of friends, but she was keen to tell Diane

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<v Speaker 1>all about her evening.

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<v Speaker 8>She Vangy the next day and said that she'd met

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<v Speaker 8>somebody really nice, and she'd been sitting at a bar

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<v Speaker 8>and he was at the opposite end of the bar

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<v Speaker 8>and he brought her a rose, and then he took

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<v Speaker 8>it round to her, and that's how I introduced himself.

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<v Speaker 6>She said he was really nice and she liked him.

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<v Speaker 8>She was going to see him again.

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<v Speaker 2>Claire was about three months younger than he was, and

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<v Speaker 2>she was different in every way. She was fun, she

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<v Speaker 2>was gregarious, she was loyal, she was happy about everything.

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<v Speaker 2>Not someone you would expect to fall for. This introverted

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<v Speaker 2>night shift forklift truck driver.

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<v Speaker 1>When Claire's mother and stepfather, Carol and Harry, met the

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<v Speaker 1>new man in her life, he was not what they

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<v Speaker 1>were expecting.

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<v Speaker 6>He wasn't her type. He was quiet.

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<v Speaker 9>I didn't dislay him anything, you know. I just thought

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<v Speaker 9>he was a quiet guy that didn't have a lot

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<v Speaker 9>of interests in none. I couldn't blame me, didn't share

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<v Speaker 9>sim interested me.

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<v Speaker 1>Twenty two year old Austin's relationship with Claire progressed rapidly.

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<v Speaker 6>Claire very quickly became pregnant after they met.

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<v Speaker 8>Phil moved in while she was pregnant. But she was

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<v Speaker 8>looking forward to it, and I was happy for her

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<v Speaker 8>because she seemed happy, said she loved him.

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<v Speaker 1>News that there was going to be a new baby

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<v Speaker 1>in the family was met with excitement by the prospective grandparents.

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<v Speaker 6>My husband said, so, I'm not old enough to be

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<v Speaker 6>a grandfather and I'm not going to be married to

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<v Speaker 6>a grandmother, and we used to laugh about it.

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<v Speaker 1>On the nineteenth of February nineteen ninety two, the family

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<v Speaker 1>welcomed Kieran Michael Austin into the world.

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<v Speaker 6>Harry and I went up to the hospital to see

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<v Speaker 6>her and it was just gorgeous.

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<v Speaker 9>I went out and bought a video camera and I

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<v Speaker 9>remember doing the video, trying to do this professional video. Hello, Hello,

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<v Speaker 9>it's old Ronnie Quinn.

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<v Speaker 1>Twenty three year old Philip Austin seemed to rise to

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<v Speaker 1>the responsibility of fatherhood.

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<v Speaker 6>He was very, very hands on. He used to feed him,

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<v Speaker 6>change his nappy. It was really hands on.

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<v Speaker 1>Whilst the couple began to settle into their roles as parents,

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<v Speaker 1>it became evident that Austin's mother, Linda had very fixed

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<v Speaker 1>ideas about how her new grandson should be brought up.

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<v Speaker 7>Linda was going to be the one that was going

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<v Speaker 7>to be in charge and that was it, you know,

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<v Speaker 7>and I can understand more. Claire got a bit upset

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<v Speaker 7>about it. Shall she thought, well, you know, or should

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<v Speaker 7>she tell me what I can and can't do with

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<v Speaker 7>more baby sort of him.

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<v Speaker 1>Relationships between Philip Austin and his parents soon soured. Even

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<v Speaker 1>at little Kieran's christening, his mother couldn't hide her disdain.

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<v Speaker 6>She had a real long face, and not long after

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<v Speaker 6>that she stopped seeing them and didn't speak to them.

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<v Speaker 6>They had an argument. She saw up every photo she

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<v Speaker 6>had of Kieran, and that was it.

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<v Speaker 2>There were one or two attempts at reconciliation, but Austin

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<v Speaker 2>had made his mind up. He didn't want anything more

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<v Speaker 2>to do with his parents.

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<v Speaker 5>I think this is perhaps way of Austin isolating his

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<v Speaker 5>family from outside criticism, because when that's missing, you're not

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<v Speaker 5>called to account for your behavior.

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<v Speaker 1>When Kieran was just a few months old, Claire felt

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<v Speaker 1>pregnant again. Jade Carol Austin was born on the twenty

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<v Speaker 1>second of April nineteen ninety three, just fourteen months after

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<v Speaker 1>her brother.

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<v Speaker 6>When Jade was born, oh my goodness, and she was

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<v Speaker 6>just everything. She was so pretty and she was like

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<v Speaker 6>a little doll.

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<v Speaker 1>Of course, Harlie was ready with his video camera as

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<v Speaker 1>Kieran met his baby's sister for the first time.

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<v Speaker 8>Yeah, after I had come along, Well, I can say,

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<v Speaker 8>very happy family. That's what I thought anyway, And.

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<v Speaker 1>To make their new family even more complete. Just three

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<v Speaker 1>months after Jade's arrival, on the seventeenth of July, Claire

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<v Speaker 1>and Philip Austin were married.

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<v Speaker 6>Here was a lovely little wedding, the earliest small one.

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<v Speaker 9>I did all the video work. That was a good

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<v Speaker 9>deal and enjoyed it.

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<v Speaker 1>Whilst Claire's family and friends turned up in their droves

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<v Speaker 1>to congratulate the happy couple.

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<v Speaker 4>Austin had only two guests.

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<v Speaker 7>We weren't invited to the wedding, so none of the

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<v Speaker 7>family were because in the end Philip cut herself off

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<v Speaker 7>from everybody.

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<v Speaker 2>His half of the church was almost deserted, whereas hers

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<v Speaker 2>was absolutely packed. If ever, there was a demonstration a

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<v Speaker 2>perfect example of the strange nature of their relationship.

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<v Speaker 9>This was it.

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<v Speaker 1>The pictures showed the perfect family, but this would soon change.

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<v Speaker 1>In just over two years, twenty four year old Philip

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<v Speaker 1>Austin had gone from living at home with his parents

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<v Speaker 1>to being a husband and father to two children.

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<v Speaker 2>It's the most dramatic change that he's ever encountered in

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<v Speaker 1>As the honeymoon period came to an end, the young

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<v Speaker 1>families settled in to their new life together.

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<v Speaker 2>At the Outset, when Kieran was born Austin it is

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<v Speaker 2>best to be the perfect partner, the perfect dad, but

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<v Speaker 2>as time wore on, he found that more and more

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<v Speaker 2>difficult to sustain, and by the time Jade arrived, his

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<v Speaker 2>sense of isolation was beginning to grow.

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<v Speaker 1>Having a toddler and a newborn was all consuming, and

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<v Speaker 1>the doting grandparents began to have some concerns about the

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<v Speaker 1>way Austin was with his young son.

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<v Speaker 9>He was too rough with him, you know, you would

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<v Speaker 9>have him ling and pat them on the chest and

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<v Speaker 9>stuff too hard though. There's too much roughness in it

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<v Speaker 9>for me, and often Kieran would end up crying, you.

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<v Speaker 3>Know, even when he was playing with Kieran. When you

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<v Speaker 3>look at some of the family videos, even in play,

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<v Speaker 3>he could be quite heavy handed and you raise a

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<v Speaker 3>few eyebrows.

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<v Speaker 1>The family began to see other things in Austin's behavior

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<v Speaker 1>that concerned them.

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<v Speaker 9>After a time, he started doing strange things, like he

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<v Speaker 9>bought golf clubs, but we didn't play golf. And he

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<v Speaker 9>bought some weight for weight training, we never used them.

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<v Speaker 6>He brought himself a pair of trainers over one hundred

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<v Speaker 6>pounds twenty years more ago. That was a lot of money.

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<v Speaker 1>By contrast, Claire was a saver. All was squirreling away

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<v Speaker 1>money so that they could afford something nice. It caused

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<v Speaker 1>arguments between the couple.

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<v Speaker 6>If she did find out that would be it, he'd

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<v Speaker 6>grab his bag and off he'd go with a few

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<v Speaker 6>bits and pieces, and she wouldn't see or hear from

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<v Speaker 6>him for three or four days. He'd often ring the

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<v Speaker 6>police and say he's got missing, and they'd find him

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<v Speaker 1>As the years went on, Claire learned to deal with

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<v Speaker 1>Austin's occasional absences. Kieran and Jade grew to be great

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<v Speaker 6>Kieran was her protector, let fight different things, like all

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<v Speaker 6>brothers and sisters do. But no, he loved her.

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<v Speaker 9>Really did Karen. He was grown kid. Good questions, Oh darn.

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<v Speaker 9>He'd ask you a question and you'd try and answer it,

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<v Speaker 9>and you were giving them an answer, but halfway through

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<v Speaker 9>the answer he had another one. That's just what he was.

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<v Speaker 4>It was.

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<v Speaker 9>Fust curiosity about everything.

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<v Speaker 8>Jade she was very quiet, quite shy. She had a

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<v Speaker 8>most amazing smile that lit up her face, and she

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<v Speaker 8>used to blush and go read a lot when he

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<v Speaker 1>When the children started going to school, Claire found she

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<v Speaker 3>Claire got a job, she was able to buy her

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<v Speaker 3>own car, she had her own income so she wasn't

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<v Speaker 3>reliant on Philip all the time for money. She had

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<v Speaker 3>her own social life, all of those sorts of things.

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<v Speaker 3>I think, in some respects that started to threaten Austin.

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<v Speaker 5>Family was the one area of his life that he

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<v Speaker 5>could dominate, and that's where his efforts were focused. So

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<v Speaker 5>the family became like a pressure cooker. It absorbed a

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<v Speaker 5>lot of stress and a lot of strain, and when

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<v Speaker 5>you have an individual like Austin, that family can be

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<v Speaker 5>placed in quite a risky situation.

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<v Speaker 3>Austin wanted to be the controlling force in that family,

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<v Speaker 3>and I don't mean that in a particularly aggressive or

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<v Speaker 3>in that family, and I think he preferred it when

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<v Speaker 3>Claire was dependent upon him.

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<v Speaker 1>The veneer of the afect family unit was beginning to

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<v Speaker 2>Fatherhood was not his natural position. He wasn't paternal. He

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<v Speaker 2>tried it out, so to speak, but knew it didn't

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<v Speaker 2>suit him and he found it very, very difficult to sustain.

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<v Speaker 5>Very often in these situations, it's the children that reveal things.

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<v Speaker 5>They let things slip, and that kind of sparks suspicion

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<v Speaker 5>in other family members who go hang on a minute,

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<v Speaker 5>things aren't quite right here.

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<v Speaker 1>The children began to open up to their grandparents about

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<v Speaker 1>some worrying incidents with their father.

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<v Speaker 6>At one time, with both of them, we found out

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<v Speaker 6>that he had been doing something horrible where he'd put

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<v Speaker 6>his hands on the throat and Jade had told me

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<v Speaker 6>she said, we don't like it when daddy does that.

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<v Speaker 9>Do we care? And I was horrified. You know there's

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<v Speaker 9>something he does don't do? Do you know? No even

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<v Speaker 9>had fun and where the children described it, it was

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<v Speaker 5>This is a really significant warning sign for me because

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<v Speaker 5>this behavior is very common in domestic abuse situations. It's

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<v Speaker 5>a way of a perpetrator showing a victim. I could

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<v Speaker 1>When Claire found out what had been happening, she was

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<v Speaker 1>extremely upset, especially as she'd witnessed something herself which had

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<v Speaker 1>given her cause for concern.

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<v Speaker 8>She said that one day he hit care and really hard,

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<v Speaker 8>hard enough to make him fall in front of Claire.

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<v Speaker 8>And Claire said to him, if you ever do that again,

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<v Speaker 8>we're finished. Don't ever touch him like that again, because

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<v Speaker 8>we won't be together anymore.

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<v Speaker 6>I'm not turn no sumpter. And I took her to

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<v Speaker 6>a solicitor and I said, Claire, you've got to get

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<v Speaker 6>rid of him and start again. So you can't live

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<v Speaker 6>like this. So do you know that Harry and I

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<v Speaker 6>will look after you.

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<v Speaker 9>I said, you know if you want to come Olivia

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<v Speaker 9>with the kids. But if she talked around, and she

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<v Speaker 9>was here for a few days, but then she went back,

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<v Speaker 9>she went back to him.

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<v Speaker 1>Claire was very clear that this roughness with Kieran had

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<v Speaker 1>to stop. Philip Austin agreed to go to counseling sessions

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<v Speaker 1>for help, but that didn't last long.

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<v Speaker 5>This was something that he didn't stick to because I

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<v Speaker 5>honestly think that he didn't believe he was doing anything wrong.

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<v Speaker 5>He literally did this to take the pressure off and

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<v Speaker 5>to make it look like he was changing his behavior.

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<v Speaker 1>Nevertheless, the experience seemed to have had a positive effect

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<v Speaker 1>on Austin.

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<v Speaker 8>She told me that he was spending a bit more

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<v Speaker 8>time with Kieran. They were cooking together and going for

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<v Speaker 8>a walk, Watson playing football, and it seemed to be

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<v Speaker 8>working and making things easier in the house. And she said,

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<v Speaker 8>it's getting help, and I think it's working. I think

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<v Speaker 8>everything's going to be all right.

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<v Speaker 1>Things appeared to have turned a corner. Thirty one year

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<v Speaker 1>old Austin was making a real effort with the children

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<v Speaker 1>and had stopped being so frivolous with money. In the

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<v Speaker 1>summer of two thousands, they went on holiday to Fort

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<v Speaker 1>a Ventura with Claire's cousin.

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<v Speaker 6>When they came back, we picked them up from the airport.

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<v Speaker 9>They were full of the whole and enjoyed it so

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<v Speaker 9>much and kept talking about going on another one, and

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<v Speaker 9>Carol evident said, declay, O, come on, you know you

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<v Speaker 9>and can't be going another. Holy story. Got plenty of money,

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<v Speaker 9>got some saved up in the bank.

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<v Speaker 1>The holiday seemed to have done them all the World

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<v Speaker 1>of Good. Three weeks later, Carol spent the day with

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<v Speaker 1>and was pleased to hear that things between the couple

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<v Speaker 1>were going well.

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<v Speaker 6>We used to go shopping on a Thursday and she

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<v Speaker 6>that day she told me that they were getting on

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<v Speaker 6>better than had ever done.

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<v Speaker 1>But despite Claire's optimism, the tide was about to turn.

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<v Speaker 1>On Sunday, the ninth of July two thousands, they were

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<v Speaker 1>looking forward to a family treat.

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<v Speaker 3>The whole family was supposed to have been going to

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<v Speaker 3>the cinema, and again Austin was helping Kieran.

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<v Speaker 10>I think it was with some homework.

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<v Speaker 3>He got frustrated with kier and he'd ended up shouting

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<v Speaker 3>at Kieran and getting angry.

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<v Speaker 9>He had a great card Kieran, and I think he

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<v Speaker 9>went over the top, so probably Claire had a bit

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<v Speaker 9>of a Gordon and then he went in the bathroom instead.

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<v Speaker 9>Most of the.

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<v Speaker 4>Day they missed the film.

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<v Speaker 6>On the Sunday evening, I phoned up see if I'd

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<v Speaker 6>enjoyed it, and he answered the phone, something he never

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<v Speaker 6>ever did, and he said Claire was upstairs. He's very quiet,

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<v Speaker 6>and the way he spoke, I thought there's been an argument.

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<v Speaker 6>So I just said, I'll tell Claire our phone tomorrow.

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<v Speaker 6>The rest of the week I kept phoning and all

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<v Speaker 6>I got was the answer phone.

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<v Speaker 9>We thought, well, you know, they'll maybe trying to patch

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<v Speaker 9>things up. I remember ringing them on the Weddnesday and

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<v Speaker 9>I left a message said, come on, Clay or what

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<v Speaker 9>what are you playing at?

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<v Speaker 10>You know?

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<v Speaker 9>What? What's up?

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<v Speaker 10>Have we upset you? Ah?

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<v Speaker 9>Aren't you're ringing us?

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<v Speaker 6>I didn't start to worry until towards the end of

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<v Speaker 6>the week and her cousin, who had been on the

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<v Speaker 6>holiday with called in and I said, have you heard

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<v Speaker 6>from Claire? And she said why. I said, well, I've

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<v Speaker 6>been ringing and I can't get an answer. So she said, well,

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<v Speaker 6>don't tell her that I've told you. But apparently he's

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<v Speaker 6>playing up again. But she doesn't want you to know

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<v Speaker 6>because she doesn't want you to worry, which is why

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<v Speaker 6>we didn't do anymore.

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<v Speaker 1>By Monday, the seventeenth of July two thousand, Kieran and

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<v Speaker 1>Jade had missed a whole week of school. Concerned by

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<v Speaker 1>the children's absence, staff tried to contact the Austin family,

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<v Speaker 1>but their calls went unanswered.

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<v Speaker 6>The phone rang and it was the school secretary. I

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<v Speaker 6>don't know whether it's mother's intuition, but alarm bells rang,

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<v Speaker 6>and I just knew it was going to be something bad.

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<v Speaker 9>I suppose I kept dressing they've gone away. They got

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<v Speaker 9>about they've booked this holiday and gone away, and just

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<v Speaker 9>said I didn't know anyone, and the heart was down here.

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<v Speaker 9>I didn't know why.

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<v Speaker 1>Carol and Harry went straight round to the family's home.

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<v Speaker 1>When they arrived, there was no sign of anybody. Carol

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<v Speaker 1>started talking to a neighbor, whilst Harry let himself inside

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<v Speaker 1>using the spare key.

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<v Speaker 4>For a brief second, his spirits lifted.

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<v Speaker 9>All letters and stuff behind the doors were push hard

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<v Speaker 9>to get it open, and I thought, yeah, that becus

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<v Speaker 9>they've gone away. Yeah, anywhere I got in the houses,

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<v Speaker 9>then this was awful to smell. Any I went down

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<v Speaker 9>the passageway or kitchen. I went into the kitchen, saw

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<v Speaker 9>clearline and blood everywhere, and she had marks on her wrists.

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<v Speaker 9>It looked like she near be cut wrists. Because murder,

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<v Speaker 9>you know, murders not in my mind. So I ran

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<v Speaker 9>to the front door just as Carl was coming in.

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<v Speaker 9>I said, Carol, don't come in. Chris done something new.

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<v Speaker 10>Herself.

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<v Speaker 6>His face was just dreadful. I said that she hasn't.

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<v Speaker 6>I said she wouldn't.

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<v Speaker 10>I just went.

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<v Speaker 6>Straight in and I went into the kitchen and Claire

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<v Speaker 6>laid on the floor.

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<v Speaker 1>And I just stood there, lying lifeless beside Claire with Dandy,

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<v Speaker 1>one of the family's pet poodles. As Carol took the

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<v Speaker 1>scene in her thoughts turned to her grandchildren.

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<v Speaker 6>I said, oh my god, we were those children. And

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<v Speaker 6>I went straight up the stairs, Harry following me, and

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<v Speaker 6>there was Kieren laying across his bed.

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<v Speaker 9>Carol stood with Kieren, and I remember showing not Jaed,

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<v Speaker 9>please not Chaed, and I run entery Jaede's room and

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<v Speaker 9>shoes lying on the floor, and I remember thinking, he's bustard.

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<v Speaker 9>How could you leave your daughter lying on the floor.

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<v Speaker 4>Lays children had been strangled.

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<v Speaker 9>You read books, you see things on television. You know

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<v Speaker 9>what the police needed, The need somewhere that is at

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<v Speaker 9>least disturbed. So we didn't touch the body. I mean,

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<v Speaker 9>I wanted to peg up my granddaughter and put on

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<v Speaker 9>the bed. I wanted to do that more or anything,

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<v Speaker 9>but I knew there wasn't anything to do.

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<v Speaker 1>Carol and Hardie's world had been shattered. They felt certain

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<v Speaker 1>that the only person who could possibly be responsible was Austin.

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<v Speaker 6>I know he wasn't there where where was the.

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<v Speaker 1>Former detective inspector and the tenant remembers visiting the family home.

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<v Speaker 3>First everything looked normal, but then we noticed ornaments had

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<v Speaker 3>been knocked over, and there was a slipper on the stairs,

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<v Speaker 3>and then in the downstairs toilet right in the corner

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<v Speaker 3>was one of Claire's ear rings, and then in the

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<v Speaker 3>hallway there was another one of her earrings. So quite

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<v Speaker 3>clearly something had happened that had caused that amount of disruption.

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<v Speaker 5>Claire was somebody who had had self defense training, so

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<v Speaker 5>when Austin did attack her, she put up a really

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<v Speaker 5>significant fight.

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<v Speaker 1>The evidence showed that there'd been a struggle which started

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<v Speaker 1>upstairs in the couple's bedroom and ended with Claire's lifeless

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<v Speaker 1>body in the kitchen.

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<v Speaker 3>The only person absent from the house was in But

432
00:27:01.680 --> 00:27:06.240
<v Speaker 3>initially we couldn't just say, well, he's our offender. He

433
00:27:06.319 --> 00:27:10.680
<v Speaker 3>could have been kidnapped, it could have been some sort

434
00:27:10.680 --> 00:27:13.880
<v Speaker 3>of revenge killing. He could have been out of the country.

435
00:27:15.079 --> 00:27:15.920
<v Speaker 3>We just didn't know.

436
00:27:17.039 --> 00:27:20.880
<v Speaker 1>As the police forensics team began a lengthy examination of

437
00:27:20.920 --> 00:27:24.559
<v Speaker 1>the house. Carol and Harry had to break the devastating

438
00:27:24.640 --> 00:27:28.799
<v Speaker 1>news to family and friends. Later that night, Diane was

439
00:27:28.839 --> 00:27:30.680
<v Speaker 1>woken by the phone ringing.

440
00:27:31.680 --> 00:27:34.079
<v Speaker 6>It was Carol, and I said, why are you ringing this

441
00:27:34.240 --> 00:27:34.799
<v Speaker 6>time of night?

442
00:27:36.119 --> 00:27:40.599
<v Speaker 8>And she said, I have something horrible to tell you,

443
00:27:41.359 --> 00:27:43.680
<v Speaker 8>but I need to tell you now because I don't

444
00:27:43.680 --> 00:27:45.640
<v Speaker 8>want you to wake up in the morning and see

445
00:27:45.640 --> 00:27:48.799
<v Speaker 8>the news on the telly. So I said, I don't understand.

446
00:27:49.880 --> 00:27:55.880
<v Speaker 8>What are you talking about. So she said, Phils killed

447
00:27:55.880 --> 00:27:58.039
<v Speaker 8>them all and I said what to me? She said,

448
00:27:58.079 --> 00:27:58.599
<v Speaker 8>they're gone.

449
00:28:01.319 --> 00:28:04.920
<v Speaker 1>The next day, the police continued their investigation.

450
00:28:06.240 --> 00:28:11.319
<v Speaker 3>There was no other sign at the scene of any

451
00:28:11.960 --> 00:28:14.599
<v Speaker 3>ancillary crime if you like, you know, there was no

452
00:28:14.680 --> 00:28:17.480
<v Speaker 3>evidence of drugs. There was no evidence of a breaking

453
00:28:17.759 --> 00:28:22.119
<v Speaker 3>as an example. So with that, as your other evidence

454
00:28:22.160 --> 00:28:25.599
<v Speaker 3>begins to build up, then you began to focus on

455
00:28:25.640 --> 00:28:28.960
<v Speaker 3>the only person missing from the house, that being Austin.

456
00:28:30.319 --> 00:28:34.200
<v Speaker 1>Once the forensics examination of the scene had been completed,

457
00:28:34.680 --> 00:28:36.559
<v Speaker 1>the search team was sent in.

458
00:28:37.440 --> 00:28:40.839
<v Speaker 3>That was when we found the other dog that had

459
00:28:40.880 --> 00:28:43.400
<v Speaker 3>been killed and sort of hidden away next to a

460
00:28:43.440 --> 00:28:47.160
<v Speaker 3>tumble dryer. And then in the bedroom we found a

461
00:28:47.200 --> 00:28:50.920
<v Speaker 3>pile of men's clothing amongst that was a pair of

462
00:28:51.000 --> 00:28:54.680
<v Speaker 3>beige cargo pants, and when those were unfolded onto some paper,

463
00:28:55.519 --> 00:28:58.039
<v Speaker 3>quite clearly we could see blood spattering.

464
00:28:59.119 --> 00:29:03.240
<v Speaker 1>The forensic evidence on the cargo pans suggested that the

465
00:29:03.359 --> 00:29:07.200
<v Speaker 1>killer had been wearing them when Claire was attacked. Having

466
00:29:07.279 --> 00:29:11.079
<v Speaker 1>discovered that Austin's car was missing, the police put out

467
00:29:11.079 --> 00:29:14.480
<v Speaker 1>an appeal for any sightings and received a call from

468
00:29:14.480 --> 00:29:15.680
<v Speaker 1>a member of the public.

469
00:29:16.119 --> 00:29:18.519
<v Speaker 3>A car had been part outside a house for about

470
00:29:18.519 --> 00:29:22.559
<v Speaker 3>a week, so we had it lifted and taken to

471
00:29:22.839 --> 00:29:26.440
<v Speaker 3>a forensic garage where it was again examined right the

472
00:29:26.519 --> 00:29:30.160
<v Speaker 3>way through for any evidence that might be connected to

473
00:29:30.279 --> 00:29:31.960
<v Speaker 3>the crime scene.

474
00:29:33.519 --> 00:29:36.759
<v Speaker 1>In the back of the car, investigators found the remains

475
00:29:36.799 --> 00:29:41.319
<v Speaker 1>of a McDonald's breakfast, a car magazine with several cars circled,

476
00:29:41.799 --> 00:29:46.240
<v Speaker 1>and a carrier bag containing a rubber mallet the sort of.

477
00:29:46.160 --> 00:29:48.920
<v Speaker 3>Thing you'd use pass for tapping in ten pecks and

478
00:29:49.000 --> 00:29:52.240
<v Speaker 3>the like that had got a significant bend halfway down,

479
00:29:52.799 --> 00:29:56.759
<v Speaker 3>and the head certainly appeared that it had blood on it,

480
00:29:57.799 --> 00:30:01.759
<v Speaker 3>and this became apparent that this well be a weapon

481
00:30:01.759 --> 00:30:03.519
<v Speaker 3>that had been used in the attack on Claire.

482
00:30:04.720 --> 00:30:07.839
<v Speaker 1>It didn't take the police long to discover that Austin

483
00:30:07.880 --> 00:30:10.960
<v Speaker 1>had purchased one of the cars he'd circled as a

484
00:30:11.000 --> 00:30:15.440
<v Speaker 1>getaway vehicle. The evidence was mounting, and it all pointed

485
00:30:15.759 --> 00:30:16.720
<v Speaker 1>in one direction.

486
00:30:17.640 --> 00:30:22.400
<v Speaker 3>Austin becomes most definitely our suspect. We're not treating him

487
00:30:22.440 --> 00:30:25.400
<v Speaker 3>as a potential witness or another victim anymore.

488
00:30:25.920 --> 00:30:27.519
<v Speaker 10>We definitely think he's our man.

489
00:30:28.400 --> 00:30:33.319
<v Speaker 1>From witness statements and the evidence they discovered, investigators determined

490
00:30:33.359 --> 00:30:36.160
<v Speaker 1>that the murders had taken place on the tenth of July,

491
00:30:36.720 --> 00:30:40.000
<v Speaker 1>a week before the bodies were found. This meant that

492
00:30:40.039 --> 00:30:42.839
<v Speaker 1>Philip Austin had now been on the run for more

493
00:30:42.880 --> 00:30:43.880
<v Speaker 1>than seven days.

494
00:30:45.480 --> 00:30:48.680
<v Speaker 5>This is a man who has just killed his family,

495
00:30:49.319 --> 00:30:52.039
<v Speaker 5>so it's very important that the police track him down

496
00:30:52.119 --> 00:30:55.160
<v Speaker 5>because only he knows what he's going to do next.

497
00:30:55.319 --> 00:30:57.640
<v Speaker 5>Is it's vital that this person is apprehended.

498
00:30:58.640 --> 00:31:02.599
<v Speaker 1>Investigators piecing together the evidence had managed to work out

499
00:31:02.680 --> 00:31:06.880
<v Speaker 1>some of Austin's movements on that fateful day. Early on Monday,

500
00:31:06.920 --> 00:31:09.759
<v Speaker 1>the tenth of July, he'd finished his night shift at

501
00:31:09.799 --> 00:31:13.559
<v Speaker 1>the warehouse, returned home, and had then taken the children

502
00:31:13.799 --> 00:31:14.319
<v Speaker 1>to school.

503
00:31:15.160 --> 00:31:21.200
<v Speaker 2>Now, normally he'd have driven home, talked to Claire, gone

504
00:31:21.240 --> 00:31:21.640
<v Speaker 2>to bed.

505
00:31:23.440 --> 00:31:28.720
<v Speaker 3>Not this morning, he books an appointment at a massage

506
00:31:28.759 --> 00:31:33.319
<v Speaker 3>parlor in Northampton. He goes for that appointment and he

507
00:31:33.559 --> 00:31:37.480
<v Speaker 3>ends up having full sex with the lady that's providing

508
00:31:37.480 --> 00:31:40.640
<v Speaker 3>the massage for him. He then starts to head home.

509
00:31:41.240 --> 00:31:44.039
<v Speaker 3>He goes into a local dry store near where they

510
00:31:44.079 --> 00:31:47.440
<v Speaker 3>live and purchases a robot mallet.

511
00:31:48.400 --> 00:31:50.839
<v Speaker 5>He buys this mallet because it's something he's planning to

512
00:31:50.960 --> 00:31:53.680
<v Speaker 5>use in the murders. And I think this emphasize is

513
00:31:53.720 --> 00:31:58.519
<v Speaker 5>how premeditated domestic homicides are. These men don't just snap

514
00:31:58.640 --> 00:32:01.720
<v Speaker 5>or lose control. They plan over a long period of time.

515
00:32:03.480 --> 00:32:07.160
<v Speaker 1>From the evidence they discovered, the police pieced together the

516
00:32:07.200 --> 00:32:11.359
<v Speaker 1>moments that led up to Claire's death. Austin had returned

517
00:32:11.400 --> 00:32:15.920
<v Speaker 1>home armed with the mallet. He found Claire upstairs.

518
00:32:16.359 --> 00:32:19.200
<v Speaker 2>A fight starts in the bedroom and it continues down

519
00:32:19.200 --> 00:32:22.440
<v Speaker 2>the stairs. Claire goes to the front door and opens it.

520
00:32:23.759 --> 00:32:27.839
<v Speaker 2>Austin comes up and slams it so that no one

521
00:32:28.160 --> 00:32:30.039
<v Speaker 2>can help her.

522
00:32:30.799 --> 00:32:35.680
<v Speaker 3>He is trying to strangle her, but Claire actually gets

523
00:32:35.720 --> 00:32:38.240
<v Speaker 3>away from him. She overpowers him and pushes him off

524
00:32:38.960 --> 00:32:41.880
<v Speaker 3>and runs back through the house. But she ends upon

525
00:32:41.920 --> 00:32:45.880
<v Speaker 3>the floor in the kitchen and Austin's on a straight

526
00:32:45.960 --> 00:32:50.160
<v Speaker 3>away and then begins a sustained violent attack.

527
00:32:52.000 --> 00:32:55.759
<v Speaker 1>Austin continued to strangle Claire and beat her with the

528
00:32:55.799 --> 00:33:00.160
<v Speaker 1>mallet before stabbing her with such force that the knife broke.

529
00:33:00.960 --> 00:33:03.759
<v Speaker 3>He then goes back to the kitchen drawer, takes another knife,

530
00:33:04.039 --> 00:33:08.960
<v Speaker 3>continues to stabber with that, and then retrieves a bra

531
00:33:09.440 --> 00:33:14.720
<v Speaker 3>from the washbasket that's in the kitchen, and again throttles

532
00:33:14.720 --> 00:33:19.599
<v Speaker 3>her with that. Any one of those assaults would have

533
00:33:19.640 --> 00:33:21.839
<v Speaker 3>been enough to kill her.

534
00:33:23.880 --> 00:33:27.480
<v Speaker 5>After he's killed his wife, self preservation kicks in, so

535
00:33:27.599 --> 00:33:30.559
<v Speaker 5>he changes his clothes. He goes to his wife's workplace,

536
00:33:30.680 --> 00:33:32.839
<v Speaker 5>and he tells her colleagues she's not going to be

537
00:33:32.880 --> 00:33:35.519
<v Speaker 5>in for a while because she's injured her back. Now,

538
00:33:35.559 --> 00:33:37.599
<v Speaker 5>the very fact that he's able to go through with

539
00:33:37.640 --> 00:33:42.079
<v Speaker 5>this rather convincing performance does show me how little remorse

540
00:33:42.119 --> 00:33:42.839
<v Speaker 5>he has.

541
00:33:43.559 --> 00:33:47.119
<v Speaker 1>Thirty one year old Philip Austin had subjected his wife,

542
00:33:47.160 --> 00:33:50.519
<v Speaker 1>the mother of his children, to a lengthy and brutal attack.

543
00:33:51.200 --> 00:33:54.279
<v Speaker 1>Later that day, he killed his son and daughter too.

544
00:33:54.960 --> 00:33:58.119
<v Speaker 1>The evidence proved that he'd planned the murders and his

545
00:33:58.240 --> 00:34:03.440
<v Speaker 1>getaway in advance. Back in the incident room, investigators had

546
00:34:03.519 --> 00:34:08.840
<v Speaker 1>been following the latest information on Austin's whereabouts. Bank records

547
00:34:08.880 --> 00:34:12.199
<v Speaker 1>revealed that he'd been using his debit card whilst on

548
00:34:12.199 --> 00:34:15.639
<v Speaker 1>a tour of the north of England, visiting the seaside

549
00:34:16.039 --> 00:34:18.000
<v Speaker 1>and staying in bed and breakfasts.

550
00:34:18.760 --> 00:34:23.079
<v Speaker 9>Once you come to the realization of what you've done,

551
00:34:24.480 --> 00:34:28.960
<v Speaker 9>probably just give themselves up or kill them kill themselves up,

552
00:34:29.719 --> 00:34:34.519
<v Speaker 9>but wouldn't go off on holiday, which is what he did.

553
00:34:36.000 --> 00:34:40.079
<v Speaker 3>He was a quiet customer, pay his bills on time,

554
00:34:40.360 --> 00:34:40.760
<v Speaker 3>might go.

555
00:34:40.760 --> 00:34:42.960
<v Speaker 10>To the pub for a drink in the evening, but in.

556
00:34:42.920 --> 00:34:46.639
<v Speaker 3>Effect was keeping quite a low profile and wasn't really

557
00:34:46.719 --> 00:34:48.559
<v Speaker 3>raising anybody's alarm bells.

558
00:34:49.800 --> 00:34:53.719
<v Speaker 1>Despite following up on every lead, the police still hadn't

559
00:34:53.760 --> 00:34:57.480
<v Speaker 1>caught up with Austin. However, on the twentieth of July,

560
00:34:57.880 --> 00:35:01.480
<v Speaker 1>they had a breakthrough of the public in the Lake

561
00:35:01.559 --> 00:35:05.679
<v Speaker 1>district spotted a man in a car acting suspiciously and

562
00:35:05.760 --> 00:35:09.880
<v Speaker 1>called the police. An officer responded and found that the

563
00:35:09.880 --> 00:35:11.840
<v Speaker 1>man had cut his wrists.

564
00:35:12.760 --> 00:35:15.719
<v Speaker 3>And in the conversation very early on, when the officer

565
00:35:15.760 --> 00:35:17.960
<v Speaker 3>says to him, well Coln, you know who are you,

566
00:35:19.079 --> 00:35:21.880
<v Speaker 3>Austin says, well, you'll know me. I'm the man who's

567
00:35:21.960 --> 00:35:23.119
<v Speaker 3>killed his wife and family.

568
00:35:24.400 --> 00:35:28.559
<v Speaker 1>It quickly became apparent that his self inflicted injuries were

569
00:35:28.599 --> 00:35:29.320
<v Speaker 1>not serious.

570
00:35:29.880 --> 00:35:31.840
<v Speaker 5>I think what he's trying to do here is place

571
00:35:31.920 --> 00:35:34.559
<v Speaker 5>himself in the role of the victim. Look at me,

572
00:35:34.800 --> 00:35:35.199
<v Speaker 5>poor me.

573
00:35:36.480 --> 00:35:40.320
<v Speaker 1>Austin has flown back down to Northampton to face questioning.

574
00:35:41.280 --> 00:35:44.880
<v Speaker 3>Potentially still at that time, he could allege somebody else

575
00:35:44.920 --> 00:35:48.360
<v Speaker 3>he'd committed the offenses, or he could allege again that,

576
00:35:48.559 --> 00:35:51.480
<v Speaker 3>you know, he'd been kidnapped and abandoned up north or

577
00:35:51.519 --> 00:35:53.119
<v Speaker 3>he'd got amnesia or anything.

578
00:35:53.159 --> 00:35:53.800
<v Speaker 10>We didn't know.

579
00:35:54.559 --> 00:35:58.159
<v Speaker 3>But actually Austin gave us a full account almost from

580
00:35:58.159 --> 00:35:59.440
<v Speaker 3>as soon as he turned the tapes on.

581
00:36:00.440 --> 00:36:03.920
<v Speaker 1>Under police caution. The thirty one year old detailed the

582
00:36:03.960 --> 00:36:07.800
<v Speaker 1>attack on his wife, explaining that it started with a row.

583
00:36:08.559 --> 00:36:12.559
<v Speaker 3>He says that at some point during that argument, the

584
00:36:12.559 --> 00:36:15.599
<v Speaker 3>red Miss comes down and he takes a swing adder

585
00:36:16.920 --> 00:36:20.400
<v Speaker 3>forgetting that he's got the mallet in his hand, and

586
00:36:20.440 --> 00:36:24.320
<v Speaker 3>he catches her on the arm. They then end up

587
00:36:24.360 --> 00:36:26.280
<v Speaker 3>having a full blown fight.

588
00:36:27.400 --> 00:36:30.760
<v Speaker 4>That version of events did not wash with Andy.

589
00:36:31.719 --> 00:36:34.559
<v Speaker 3>At what point does that red miss stop Because during

590
00:36:34.639 --> 00:36:38.239
<v Speaker 3>that assault, particularly once they're in the kitchen, he's making

591
00:36:38.280 --> 00:36:40.159
<v Speaker 3>decisions about where he's going to go.

592
00:36:40.199 --> 00:36:42.199
<v Speaker 10>What he's going to use, what inclement he's going to

593
00:36:42.239 --> 00:36:42.920
<v Speaker 10>pick up next.

594
00:36:43.719 --> 00:36:46.639
<v Speaker 3>That doesn't sound like red Myss to me. That sounds

595
00:36:46.679 --> 00:36:50.599
<v Speaker 3>like a man who's intent on murdering his wife.

596
00:36:51.679 --> 00:36:55.199
<v Speaker 1>The police already knew that Austin had purchased a car

597
00:36:55.400 --> 00:36:58.559
<v Speaker 1>before collecting eight year old Kieran and his seven year

598
00:36:58.599 --> 00:37:02.920
<v Speaker 1>old sister Jade from Ghoul, but Austin revealed he'd taken

599
00:37:02.960 --> 00:37:06.360
<v Speaker 1>the children on a drive lasting seven hours.

600
00:37:06.679 --> 00:37:08.280
<v Speaker 10>He goes over to the East coast.

601
00:37:09.480 --> 00:37:12.800
<v Speaker 3>They buy fish and chips, and he buys the children

602
00:37:12.880 --> 00:37:16.480
<v Speaker 3>some drinks, but even at that stage, he's lacing their

603
00:37:16.519 --> 00:37:21.039
<v Speaker 3>food and their drinks with a herbal sleep agent, and

604
00:37:21.079 --> 00:37:25.159
<v Speaker 3>they only really go home when Austin satisfied that they

605
00:37:25.199 --> 00:37:26.559
<v Speaker 3>are very sleepy.

606
00:37:28.039 --> 00:37:31.960
<v Speaker 1>Austin claimed that he returned home having forgotten what he'd

607
00:37:32.000 --> 00:37:35.440
<v Speaker 1>done earlier that day. He recounted that he put the

608
00:37:35.519 --> 00:37:39.360
<v Speaker 1>children to bed, and later that night Jade woke up.

609
00:37:40.079 --> 00:37:41.880
<v Speaker 5>He's trying to make out that he had some kind

610
00:37:41.920 --> 00:37:44.400
<v Speaker 5>of episode in which he killed his wife and he

611
00:37:44.480 --> 00:37:47.239
<v Speaker 5>killed the dogs. And it's only when his daughter asked

612
00:37:47.280 --> 00:37:49.159
<v Speaker 5>him for a glass of water and he goes in

613
00:37:49.199 --> 00:37:51.400
<v Speaker 5>the kitchen to get that that he sees the bodies

614
00:37:51.440 --> 00:37:54.119
<v Speaker 5>and he remembers what he's done, and then that triggers

615
00:37:54.159 --> 00:37:57.280
<v Speaker 5>his later behavior, and I think this is an absolute

616
00:37:57.320 --> 00:38:01.320
<v Speaker 5>load of nonsense. Austin remembers exact exactly what he's done

617
00:38:01.320 --> 00:38:04.639
<v Speaker 5>because he's following through a very carefully constructive plan.

618
00:38:07.360 --> 00:38:10.920
<v Speaker 3>He says, at that point the only way forward he

619
00:38:10.960 --> 00:38:14.599
<v Speaker 3>could see was to kill the children. This isn't a

620
00:38:14.639 --> 00:38:18.920
<v Speaker 3>red miss decision. This isn't, you know, a loss of temper.

621
00:38:19.559 --> 00:38:24.199
<v Speaker 3>This is a reason decision that a man has made

622
00:38:24.320 --> 00:38:26.039
<v Speaker 3>that he's going to murder both of his children.

623
00:38:28.960 --> 00:38:33.360
<v Speaker 1>Whilst he was retelling these horrific crimes against his own family,

624
00:38:34.000 --> 00:38:38.320
<v Speaker 1>Philip Austin showed no sign of emotion or remorse.

625
00:38:40.079 --> 00:38:44.440
<v Speaker 10>The end of the interview. I recall that the officers.

626
00:38:43.920 --> 00:38:48.440
<v Speaker 3>Were saying they'd asked him how he felt about what

627
00:38:48.559 --> 00:38:53.760
<v Speaker 3>he'd done, and after a moment's thought, Austin said, well,

628
00:38:53.800 --> 00:38:57.960
<v Speaker 3>I'm not proud, and that was the sort of most

629
00:38:58.079 --> 00:39:01.039
<v Speaker 3>we ever got out of him in terms of how

630
00:39:01.079 --> 00:39:01.679
<v Speaker 3>he felt.

631
00:39:02.599 --> 00:39:06.880
<v Speaker 1>Once in prison, Philip Austin contacted his aunts and uncle

632
00:39:07.159 --> 00:39:09.880
<v Speaker 1>for the first time in more than eight years.

633
00:39:10.679 --> 00:39:13.440
<v Speaker 7>He was allowed to phone somebody up, and the only

634
00:39:13.519 --> 00:39:17.039
<v Speaker 7>person he phoned was Roger, my husband, didn't phone his

635
00:39:17.119 --> 00:39:19.800
<v Speaker 7>mum and dad wouldn't have nothing to do with him,

636
00:39:20.000 --> 00:39:23.840
<v Speaker 7>and we went to see him and asked him, you know,

637
00:39:24.239 --> 00:39:26.400
<v Speaker 7>what the hell are you doing? You know, do you realize?

638
00:39:26.519 --> 00:39:28.920
<v Speaker 7>And all he was worried about was things in the

639
00:39:29.000 --> 00:39:33.079
<v Speaker 7>house that belonged to him, and Roger slammed his fist

640
00:39:33.159 --> 00:39:35.960
<v Speaker 7>on the table that was sitting at and he said,

641
00:39:36.000 --> 00:39:38.119
<v Speaker 7>You've got more to worry about than the things in

642
00:39:38.159 --> 00:39:41.239
<v Speaker 7>the house, and I've just got walked out crying.

643
00:39:43.079 --> 00:39:45.880
<v Speaker 1>Over the next four months, as the trial drew near,

644
00:39:46.320 --> 00:39:49.800
<v Speaker 1>Austin's legal team attempted to put forward a defense of

645
00:39:50.000 --> 00:39:53.480
<v Speaker 1>not guilty on the grounds of diminished responsibility.

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<v Speaker 3>The way it was summed up for me was they

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<v Speaker 3>were trying to get a psychiatrist that would say he

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<v Speaker 3>was mad and not bad.

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<v Speaker 10>Nobody would, so he went to trial as bad.

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<v Speaker 1>On the twenty second of March two thousand and one,

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<v Speaker 1>at Northampton Crown Court, Philip Austin changed his plea to guilty.

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<v Speaker 1>He was sentenced to life in prison with a minimum

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<v Speaker 1>term of fifteen years. The prosecution felt this was too

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<v Speaker 1>lenient and appealed.

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<v Speaker 6>David Blunkett, then Home Secretary, increased it to twenty. But

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<v Speaker 6>that equates if you just count three lives to just

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<v Speaker 6>over six years her life less than that if you

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<v Speaker 6>count the two dogs. That's not justice.

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<v Speaker 5>If he would have jumped out of the bushes and

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<v Speaker 5>killed women who were jogging the park, we would never

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<v Speaker 5>see this individual out in public again. I think the

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<v Speaker 5>fact that he killed his family has significantly reduced the

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<v Speaker 5>length of the sentence that he received. Now for me

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<v Speaker 5>for the same behavior to be given a different level

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<v Speaker 5>of sar verity depending on who the victims are is

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<v Speaker 5>absolutely ludicrous.

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<v Speaker 1>Austin was behind bars, but the impact of his actions

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<v Speaker 1>had a devastating effect on Claire, Kiren and Jade's family

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<v Speaker 1>and friends.

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<v Speaker 9>Facing the reality of it and the reality of what

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<v Speaker 9>your future is going to be like or not like,

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<v Speaker 9>because you thought your future was going to be this

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<v Speaker 9>wonderful future with the kids involved and all down the years,

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<v Speaker 9>you know, and the children there would have and and

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<v Speaker 9>suddenly it's gone snuffed out like put a candle out.

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<v Speaker 1>In the years since the murders, Carol and Harry have

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<v Speaker 1>had help from a counselor.

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<v Speaker 6>She was absolutely wonderful, really really wonderful. Taught us how

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<v Speaker 6>to cope with things how to deal with it, Like

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<v Speaker 6>if you start to have really bad thoughts, replace them

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<v Speaker 6>with a happy one. And I always replaced it with

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<v Speaker 6>seeing Jade and kier and standing at the window waiting

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<v Speaker 6>to go out with us for a day, and they'd

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<v Speaker 6>be jumping up and down and running out to the

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<v Speaker 6>door to and running up the path to us.

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<v Speaker 1>There is the possibility in the near future that Philip

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<v Speaker 1>Austin may be set free those that new Claire and

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<v Speaker 1>the children hope they will never see that day.

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<v Speaker 8>He's never said sorry, he's never said why. It doesn't

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<v Speaker 8>seem to have any remorse of any kind. He's very,

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<v Speaker 8>very dangerous man.

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<v Speaker 3>I think the level of violence that he used against

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<v Speaker 3>Claire was completely unwarranted and unnecessary, and he had plenty

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<v Speaker 3>of opportunity not to kill the children.

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<v Speaker 10>Does that make him evil?

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<v Speaker 9>Yes, here's a monster to be able to do what

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<v Speaker 9>he'd done and still live with himself calmly. He went

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<v Speaker 9>on a tour after slaughtering his family. You must have

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<v Speaker 9>an empty soul, no soul at all, to be in that.

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<v Speaker 1>We may never know the real motivations behind Austin's actions.

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<v Speaker 1>What is certain is that his claims of a red

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<v Speaker 1>miss moment cannot possibly be true. His crimes were carefully planned.

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<v Speaker 1>He purchased a mallard for the sole purpose of murdering

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<v Speaker 1>his wife, before calmly collecting his children from school, drugging

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<v Speaker 1>and strangling them, making Philip Austin one of the world's

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<v Speaker 1>most evil killers.
