Speaker 1: I am a Haley Bishop and I am part of
Squash Fishing Outfitters. I have been since twenty twenty two.
I was on their first expedition with them and been
with them ever since, and since then we've wracked up
quite a few interesting events. One of them I would
like to go into detail about is one fall i'd
seen one on thermal. You know. We had went up
to the North Georgia Mountains and you know, everything was
going like it's supposed to get their subpretent and got
to know everyone, and so we were about to go
out and just see what we could experience. And at
the time there wasn't really a lot going on, and
so we didn't really know how the evening was going
to go. But we had picked this four service road
and at this time it was already dark, and so
me and a group started hiking up there, and about
I guess half a mile in, we would stop kind
of scan surrounding areas, you know, and then keep going.
You know. We did that a couple of times, and
then we got to this one spot where someone had
pick something up on their thermal on the right. I
would say, I guess at about a one or two
o'clock angle and it was up on the hill and
so Scott was looking at it on a thermal. And
Scott is one of the leaders of squatch fishing outfitter
and U Nate. He was looking at it on a
thermal and it looked like you know, they said it
was peeping in and out of a tree, like from
behind a tree. And so Scott handed me the thermal
to see what they were talking about. And you know,
I could see it people around the tree and then
go back into hiding. And then like three seconds later
I saw it takeoff running and it did about two
or three good arm sways like you it you can
see the arms and the legs, and it disappeared behind
trees and it was kind of I would say, maybe
one hundred two hundred feet away, and like you you
could tell that it was like a humanoid shape. But
you know, we that was on the right side of
the road and it was heading to the left, so
it was heading towards the road. And you know, all
I can remember saying was it runs like a man.
And at that time I kind of wanted to get
out of there. So Scott always would tell us that
if you're out here and something happens, you should never
run because that makes you pray. So then I started
speed walking as fast as I could. He kind of
had reeled me back into the group, but I was
just afraid that it was just gonna follow us, and well,
I'm I'm pretty sure that's what it did. That night,
I was still a little bit shooken up from it.
And that night, around three point thirty, I heard this
really loud metal bang and that's what woke me up.
And I was sleeping in a tent at the time.
It was October and it was pretty chilly, so I
had mister Buddy heater on and that kind of casted
my shadow, so if I moved something outside would see it.
So I tried to stay as still as possible. But
I got woken up by this loud metal bang and
it almost sounded like a metal trash can hit in
the side of the car. I couldn't really tell what
it was other than maybe something was trying to get
into the metal bare box in that general area that
I heard it coming from. And so I just there
and I could hear metal crunching and popping, almost like
something really heavy had gotten on top of the car,
and I just laid there and I kept listening. And
then after the crunching sound, I could hear very loud,
percussive footsteps, and it wasn't like something on four feet.
It sounded like two feet, like boom, boom boom, and
whatever it was was coming closer and closer to my tent.
But I laid there and I kept listening, and I
didn't move like a single inch. And when I heard
it getting closer to my tent, that's when I heard
it sounded like like a fingernail, you know, like how
it would sound if you scratched the outside of a tent.
What sounded like something it was scratching the outside of
my tent, and it sort of went all the way
around my tent. And by the time it got to
the door, you know, I was waiting, you know, to
see what was going to happen. And I was clutching
my keyfob because you know, they said if they if
you hear something outside at night and you get scared
to press it and wall come out running. Well, I
had it in my hands. I just didn't want to
press it because I was afraid of what might what
happen and when it got to the front of my tent,
it let this deep exhale out like a but deeper.
And after that I heard it get into the kitchen
like it was opening and closing the grills and everything.
And at that time I was extremely tired and I
was just like, you know, whatever it is, I just
have to get me. I have to go to sleep.
And I ended up falling asleep. And the next morning
we looked around a campsite and there was a creek
behind the campsite and past that creek went up into
the mountains, and how we had our cars parked, it
was almost acting as a barrier from the creek. And
when we kind of got over there looking, we found
a wet like a footprint in the mud and measured
it and it was about seventeen inches and then all
over Sheila's jeep was these greasy fingerprints. We took pictures,
we lifted the prints and they were I would say
about three times the size of my thumb. And when
you look close at it, you could see that it
had dormal ridges like it had a fingerprint, but just
the backtrack just a little bit. When I heard the
metal bang. After that I had heard what sounded like
a mix between an owl and a coyote. Hell, I
couldn't place that sound on any one creature. It just
sounded like either an owl or a kyote or both.
And it was this how like I can't even can't
even try to repeat. Yeah, that's the end of that experience.
The experience that I had was with squatch Fish and outfitters. See,
I don't go out into the woods by myself. It's
always usually with them because I feel safe going out
with them, and after the things we've experienced, I definitely
won't go out by myself. This experience was it was
another expedition and I was getting there kind of late.
It was about eight or nine o'clock and everyone had
already packed up their stuff and headed deeper into the
mountains to do their little hiking expedition. And so I
was going to get to the camp and set up
my tent and have it all ready for them when
they got back, and I got out of the car
and it was just really dark and the vibes were
just off. I was looking around with a flashlight and
it was I just did not feel comfortable pulling my
tent out and putting my focus on that, and so
I stayed in the car and I waited for them
to get back. As I was waiting for them to
get back, one of the trees across the campsite, I
could see what only I could describe as an orb,
like a pale white orb, hover from out, like from
out behind a tree, and then slowly fall into the
ground and disappear. And honestly, I couldn't tell you what
that would have been other than an orb. Then everyone
started showing up, you know. I got out, and then Michelle,
one of our friends, she said, you know, it's it's
been raining a little bit. You don't need to set
up your tent and get it all muddy, so you
can stay in the pop up with us. And that night,
you know, nothing happened. Next day we went and did
what we were doing up there, and then that evening,
you know, settled in and then I stayed in the
pop up with Michelle, and I honestly couldnot tell you
what time it was because my phone was dead, so
I didn't have a watch. I couldn't tell what time
it was, but everyone was already asleep, and this really
loud scream woke me up and At first I thought
maybe it was a mountain lion, because their screams can
sound like a woman screaming. But whatever this was was
probably twenty or thirty feet away from our pop up,
like right in the middle of camps and it screamed
like a woman, and then it went off into this
gibberish like almost like if you had heard the samurai chatter.
That's what it sounded like. It sounded like it was
frustrated or it was trying to speak. Honestly, couldn't tell you.
I couldn't point to one specific thing. And I tried
to get Michelle to wake up, and she was just
she was out cold, and so no one else heard
it but me, but it definitely it woke me up
from my sleep and I couldn't get to sleep for
quite a while after that. There is this one other time,
and this is in the same location as the last story.
We were up there and we had split off our team.
I was staying at the campsite with Sheila, Michelle, Danny,
and Austin, and then the Scott took the rest of
him further into the woods to go hiking, and so
we were just hanging around the campfire trying to keep
it going. Michelle she won't let a fire go out,
so she was out there. She was popping and cracking
limbs and sticks and trying to get a bunch of
firewood for us. So we were just sitting there talking
and all of a sudden we started hearing branches break.
We heard, you know, one from our on our right side,
and then one to our left. And then something started
throwing rocks at Austin, who was the only male in
this group. They were about the size I guess, slightly
smaller than a golf ball, these rocks were, and they
were all zooming past us, going straight towards him, and
I guess whatever was out there didn't like that there
was a man with all these women. And then, you know,
we kept hearing these branches break off. In the dark,
we shine a light, we couldn't see anything, and we
tried to use our walkie talkies to get in contact
with the other group, and they had already died. They
were fully charged when we got out there, and they
were just dead. So we couldn't get ahold of the
other group. And during all this, Austin had seen a
blue orb off like past where our cars were and
he said it was about I guess the size of
a basketball, and it was like it was moving. And
then we heard a growl come from that same area,
and after that we were ready to leave. Like normally
when you start hearing growls, it's time to go. They're
getting tired of you. So they're just getting close to midnight,
and we were making our plans to leave with or
without everyone else, and we were trying to wait as
long as we could, and then we saw the group
come back around the mountain and then we were able
to pack up and leave. But that experience there was
there was just a lot going on. And then there
was this other time. I was with the hiking group
this time, and we going down this trail and it
was it was late at night, and the frogs, the cicadas,
the everything were just they were super loud. And we
got about maybe a quarter mile down that road and
we were about to turn around because you know, we
weren't seeing anything, we're hearing anything, and you know, the
nature was just really loud. But then just as we
were about to turn around, we heard the whole forest
get quiet, Like it was strange how it went from
so loud to so quiet, and then out of that quietness,
we heard this single like whoop sound coming from down
the trail and up the hill I would say maybe
two or three hundred feet it was. It was a
little ways, but it wasn't that far, and it just
it whooped again. So we decided to turn back around
and go back towards our other group that was waiting
by the fire, and the further way we got from it,
the sound didn't get any quieter. It sounded like it
was keeping pace with us, like it would continue to whoop,
but it stayed the same volume. So we were figured.
We figured that you know, it was trying to follow us,
and you know, there has been times where things have
followed us back. We get up to where the other
part of the group is sitting and we asked them
if they heard that that whoop that was coming from
you know, our direction She's They said no, but we
heard a whoop from the opposite.
Speaker 2: Side, and so I don't know if it was trying
to communicate back and forth, like surely you know, they
knew we were there.
Speaker 1: But it was strange, you know, hearing that there was
you know, possibly one here and then one over there.
As well, and in this location we had also had
rocks thrown at us. Like we had. It was like
this big hill and then we had all the cars
lined up beside it, and we always face it outwards,
so if we have ever had to get back in
the car and go, we could go. And we were
just sitting there and you know, a rock would roll
in and then you could hear, you know, rock hit
the car and Sheila at the time, she had a
slingshot and she wasn't trying to aim at where it
was coming from. It was almost like this playful thing
going on. She would get, you know, find a little
rock and then aim at kind of the opposite direction.
And that went on for like a good thirty or
forty minutes. You know, we didn't really feel any bad
vibes from that. It just almost felt playful in a way.
And as we were getting ready to leave, on the
side of the hill, we found a river rock rolled
in red clay and it was it was sitting on
her uh I'm not sure what you call. It's just
the metal overhang of her wheel. And we found that
pretty cool, maybe almost as a gift, like, you know, hey,
thanks for playing rocks. With me or something, and we
all thought that that was kind of cool, and she
has that in her carryo cabinet to this day. I
do have. This is one other story. We were out
riding four service roads and we were fairly close to
a certain part of the Appalachian Trail, so we decided
to get out and start hiking. And so we started
hiking down its four service road and we were going
to turn and go through this field and get to
the Appalatrian Trail. And you know, we had our thermal
going and everything, and we got to the field and
the field is sort of on an incline and where
this hill is, you couldn't see the trees over it.
All you could see was, you know, a backdrop of
the sky. And we saw something on the hill. It
looked like it was slightly over the hill. You could
see it sort of peeking out and it would raise
up and then it would sort of crouch back down
behind that hill and did that multiple times. And the
times that it did you could tell that it had
you know, distinctive head and shoulders. So we decided to
walk up there and check things out. Couldn't find anything,
although when we came back the next morning we could
tell right right where we had seen it. It had
left a left a little surprise for us, probably the
biggest little surprise I've ever seen, you know. We we
tried to document a lot of things. I know quite
a few of the people that were there have have pictures,
size comparisons all that might even have thermal imaging pictures,
but that was one in a stance. But the times
that I looked through the thermal with the with the
skies the backdrop, you could definitely make out the head
shape and a shoulder shape, like both shoulders standing up
and then crouching back down. Mhm. Right around that same area,
we were out hiking doing doing what we do, and
the team had, uh, they had spotted something off to
the left at this rock and they're trying to figure
out what it was, you know, if it was another
forced animal. So we had a couple of thermals on it,
and there was a really big rock off to the left,
probably about I don't know, I guess he's safe forty
or fifty feet and you could tell something was peaking
up from behind it. And Scott and one of his
and sons decided to go walking towards it, because sometimes,
you know, if you if we see something out there,
he'll try to start walking towards it. So someone with
a thermol can kind of see see it run off
and see what it is. And so that's what he
was going to do. So they started walking towards it,
and as they did, it sort of disappeared. And they
were out there and they couldn't figure out where it went.
And Scott he had he had turned to his right
and he saw it. He saw something crouched down, and
he said when he shined his light on it, it
looked behind him across his shoulder and put his hand
up to block the light, and then it looked back
and kept doing what it was doing. And he said,
it looked like he had caught something, like it was
trying it was eating something. And Scott said, you know,
he got really unnerved because normally things get up and run,
and this thing wasn't. It was it was staying his ground.
And so he him and his friend's son started to
back out as slowly as possible. And that was one
of the more intense moments. And I do have one
other story, and I haven't really told this one because
I wasn't really one hundred percent sure. But we were
driving from one Hi can O patient to the next,
and you know, I was looking out the window just
you know, enjoy nature. And we had went around this
big curve and down in the valley it looked like
a shape was sort of forming. I was almost questioning
what I was seeing, but like there was still leaves
in the valley floor, like you know, brown and dead
leaves and whatever. This was looked cinnamon in color, and
you know, it looked like the shape of a bigfoot.
And then I figured, well, if it's just how the
light is hitting it, then by the time we make
it around this curve, it will have changed. It'll look different,
you know, if if it's just shadow play pretty much.
But it didn't. The shape stayed exactly the same. You
could see the head and the shoulders and it was
just staring like right at us. And you could tell
as we went around this curve and went up it,
it was like it's its body was kind of turning
with us, like it was watching us, but it wasn't
like moving. And you know, I I was pretty kind
of quiet at the time. I was kind of shy,
and I didn't really, you know, I didn't really yell
it out or anything. I just like, you know, I
think I see something, but I guess they didn't really
hear me. They and you kept driving, and so I
just kept watching it. But yeah, I'm not really not
really sure you know, what I saw, But I figured
if it was just a trick of a light, it
would have changed with the positioning of the sunlight and everything.
Speaker 3: You became a member of Squatch Fishing Outfitters in twenty
twenty two. Had you wanted to be a Sasquatch investigator
for some time before that, or was that more of
a spur of the moment type of thing for you.
Speaker 1: No, Honestly, that was like a spur of the moment
kind of thing all my life. I mean, I was
into ghosts, but I wasn't into bigfoot or any other
cryptid things. I barely knew anything about it, and I
was looking for pretty much just people to go out
and go camping with, because I wanted to get out
there and enjoy nature. And I was just tired of
waiting for the right people to come, so I thought
I would find them. And then my aunt one day
she showed me a Facebook post of Scott and Sheila,
and they were doing their very first expedition, and she
thought I'd be interested in it, but I don't think
she thought that I would actually take it seriously. But
with how I was thinking at the time, just wanting
to just get out there, I took it. And so
here I was, you know, a young girl trapsing off
into the middle of the woods to meet random people.
And I always told them, you know, I guess, well,
if they were serial killer, I could just turn around
and leave.
Speaker 4: I guess.
Speaker 1: I was trying to take that chance, that risk, to
just get out there and meet people with, you know,
because I'm sure that there's a lot of people there
that you know, liked hiking and camping and wanting to
be out and I was just trying to, you know,
broaden my horizons. And I wasn't really opposed or turned
off to the idea of bigfoot. I thought it was
kind of interesting, and so you know, I wanted to
give it a try. And on the first expedition, they're like,
we're adopting you now. So we met a lot of
good people.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it sounds like you did. You have both Scott
and Chila. They are good people, So I'm glad you're
able to hook up with them now. Haley, There's definitely
a difference between thinking that sasquatch might be out there
and knowing they are after seeing them more than one time.
When you're laying in your tent all by yourself late
at night, are you laying there more with the mindset that, oh,
there's sasquatch out there possibly, or more so, oh there
might be sasquatch out there.
Speaker 1: Well, you know, it's all footing games until you see one,
or you see something that you can't explain, and then
it sort of turns your world upside down. You know,
when you're younger, you believe in everything, and I'd gotten
to the point where I didn't really believe in too much.
But then when you get out there and you start
seeing things you can't really explain, it kind of changes
things for you. And when I saw that thing on
the thermal, you know it it was a humanoids shaped it.
You know, it looked just like you know, the profile
of a bigfoot taken off from tree to tree, and
it was set on our thermals were set on white hot,
so this figure was completely white. You know, if it
was someone with clothes. Sometimes you can tell a difference
between their skin and the clothes, but this figure was
like completely white, you know, white hot, And I remember
there in my tent. I was actually dreaming about it
before I got woken up, I guess, because it kind
of got etched into my mind. You know, in my dream,
I was seeing that white figure off into the woods,
and then got woken up by the loud thing.
Speaker 3: I'll bet that I really got your modor run then, yeah,
it did well beyond that, I don't doubt that at all. Now,
when you saw that cinnamon colored figure when you're driving,
he said it was downslope from you. How sure are
you that it really was a creature and not some
inanimate thing like a log or something.
Speaker 1: Well, the only reason why I saw to take that
as a siding. I don't say it very often, just
because I'm not one hundred percent sure. But it was
an upright figure. It wasn't like it was laying down.
And if I had seen it just from one perspective,
I would probably have just written written it off. But
we were moving, and normally maybe if you see the
light creating something that looked like something else, you know,
if you go around the corner and you change your
perspective of it, you know, it changed, it looked different,
But this this thing didn't. And it looked.
Speaker 4: Like like I could I could see the shoulders in
the head, and I could tell like it had a
little bit of gray on its face, but it was
mainly cinnamon colored, and it looked like, you know, the
whole body was sort of turning to.
Speaker 1: Stay faced towards the car, but it wasn't moving any
other part of its body.
Speaker 3: I appreciate your reluctance to jump to conclusions, but playing
the devil's advocate here, if it was a creature that
was cinnamon colored like that, and it seemed to be
turning to follow you, to watch you as you're driving
down the road, if it wasn't a sasquatch, what could
it have been?
Speaker 1: Honestly, I have no idea other than an extremely brilliant
trick of the light. I wouldn't know.
Speaker 3: Well, I've got my own opinions about that. From what
you describe it, I think he saw a sasquatch. But
that's just me.
Speaker 1: It's just me.
Speaker 3: Please tell us one thing that most people don't know
about what it's like to be a sasquatch investigator.
Speaker 1: Well, a lot of people, you know, they they think, oh,
we're going to go out there and we're going to
see all this kind of stuff. But a lot of
times it's not really the case. You know, there's been
multiple times that we've been out there and literally nothing
has happened. Granted we have a great time, have great food,
but you know, you always kind of after you get
a little bit of a taste, you always kind of
want a little something to happen. You know, you don't
want to be so scared you don't want to come back.
But it's always kind of exciting thinking you're going to
learn a little bit more about the unknown. But it
just doesn't happen every time.
Speaker 3: It's got to be almost like a drug. It's almost
like you can't get enough of it.
Speaker 1: It sounds like, yeah, well, some people they get you know,
they experience something and they never want to go back
into the woods. And then other people it is like
a drug where they want to keep going back out
and it's a curiosity. And I guess I haven't been
scared enough. There might be one day where I don't
want to set foot back into the woods. But it
hasn't come yet, but I definitely view going out into
the woods differently now. Before you know, when you think, oh,
it's just bears and mountain lions and coyotes and all that,
you know, that's one thing. But to know about this
whole other, you know, a whole other side of things
is different. And I always wanted to like the app
letch and trail by myself, but after all this, I'm
highly reconsidering that. Like, I definitely won't go out there
by myself.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it might be a good thing because I'm pretty
sure that not all sasquatch or friendly.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I've I've heard quite a few stories that will
make a question. You know what side you know bigfooter on?
You know, good and bad?
Speaker 3: Well, I think it's like anything else, there's a balance.
You have good ones, you have bad ones. So yeah,
you come across the wrong one, you could have trouble.
You really could. When you had your first sasquatch related experience,
you wound up trying to speed walk away from the sasquatch.
You said, after having that experience, did you ever contemplate
throwing in the towel With regards to your investigations or
the thoughts like that never crossed your mind.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I after that, I didn't need a little bit
of time before I got back out there, just because
you know, I wasn't really sure what had happened, and
I needed time to process that and just sort of,
you know, remembering the detail and trying to work through
it all to make some sort of sense of it helps.
And there's a lot of questions that I don't have
answers to, and I've always wondered, you know, if I had,
you know, peeped out of my tent, what I would
have seen. But I was honestly too afraid to move
or make any noise. And in a way, I'm kind
of glad I didn't look see that.
Speaker 3: Right, there is something that in a way I can
understand it, But in another way, I guess I never will.
You've got people who spend untold amounts of money to
go into the field and try to seek out sasquatch. Well,
I mean, I've heard a case after a case after
a case where investigators like that wind up having an
experience where there's a sasquatch right there, such as right
outside the tent, but they're so afraid they don't want
to look out there, But that's why they're there in
the first place, was to have a sasquatch encounter. Now, again,
human nature is nature, It's what it is, and I
get it. I understand when fear takes a hold. Yeah,
I can understand having a situation like that. But what
are your thoughts on that? Were you frustrated because you
were there to investigate sasquatch but you were so afraid
that you couldn't look out the tent. Again, I don't
blame you, I understand it, but I'm just wondering where
you're frustrated.
Speaker 1: Yes, I was pretty frustrated. But you know, when you're
in a situation like that, you think you're going to
do one thing and then something else happens. And all
I can say is that when you're scared, instincts override curiosity.
Speaker 3: Oh, no doubt.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: I mean, like Mike Tyson said, everyone has a plan
until they get hit, and you got hit that night.
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and let me know did Scott and Shield and know
the sasquatch? It was in camp that night while it
was messing around with your tent or were they dead
to the world and.
Speaker 1: Oblivious they were in See, I was in a tent
and they were in a camper, So when you're in
a camper, you can't hear as much as you can
in the tent. And when I go out camping, I
sleep very lightly. Normally I'm a very deep sleeper, but
when I'm out there, I don't feel comfortable enough to
fall into that deep sort of sleep. And so I
think that's why I woke up so easily. And I was,
you know, hanging on to that key fob, and I
often wonder, you know, if I had hit that, what
would have happened, because you know, they always said, you know,
if you need us, hit your keyfob, you know, make
your car alarm go off and we'll come out see
what's going on. But you know, on one hand, I
didn't want them if it was something dangerous, I didn't
want them walking into it as well. Now, if it
had started coming in onto my tent, I would have
hit it, but you know I had to my left,
I had their spray, I had a knife. I was
running through all these situations where like you know, if
it started coming into my tent, Am I gonna spray it?
Am I gonna knife it? What am I gonna do?
You know? But it was all I did was just
stay as still as possible. And I don't know if
it's because I couldn't move or because I mean I
was all I was doing was just laying there shaking.
Speaker 3: Oh, but you were, Yeah, I can't even imagine the
thoughts I must have been going through your ad and
understandably so, when you go out on investigations with Scott
and Sheila, do you have radios where if you needed
to raise them you could without using the keyfob, or
you just strictly use the keyfob if it's an emergency
and you don't have the means to do that.
Speaker 1: Well, normally we have walkie talkies and we'll use those
when we're out hiking, Like from the group that stays
at the camp and the ones that go hiking. There's
only been a few times where I've had a walkie
on me, you know, laying on and ready to use
in my tent normally, because I try to stay close
within everyone. I don't like to be, you know, off
on the far reaches just because I feel safeer, you know,
closer to people.
Speaker 3: Well, I think it's awfully admirable if you've had more
than one frightening experience out there, but you keep on
heading back into the woods. I mean, most people would
have thrown into the towel a while ago, but not you.
You keep heading in and like I said, that's awfully impressive.
Speaker 1: Well, like I said, I haven't. I guess I haven't
been scared enough yet. Now I've been scared, but I
don't know. I guess it's just going to take for
something to get me while I'm out there. I don't know.
But it's definitely, you know, a curiosity factor, because you know,
I came in not really knowing anything about bigfoot or cryptids,
and you know, you start learning about one thing and
it kind of leads to you, you know, down this
rabbit hole. And I've been trying to be very I've
been trying to be very picky about sort of rabbit
holes that I go down. I mean, I want to
keep a very unbiased opinion. I want to go out
there and make my own opinion of these experiences.
Speaker 3: You mentioned rabbit holes. When you go on these outings,
do you have the mindset that you're trying to investigate
creatures that don't have any special abilities, or do you
think they do have abilities above and beyond a normal creature.
Speaker 1: Well, from what I've experienced, I believe that they do
have some sort of abilities that we are not quite
aware of. Like you know, there's always you know, the
separation between flesh and blood or inter dimensional or different,
you know, something different about them. And while they leave
physical evidence like footprints, fingerprints, hair, and you can hear
them and everything like that, there's also you know, these
other times that you know where the footprints disappear, and
then there's a lot of times where you know, you
see when there's orbs as well. And I think energy
has a lot to do with these creatures, but I'm
not exactly sure how or why. So I mean, that's
just the conclusion that I've come to.
Speaker 3: There are a lot of credible eyewitnesses out there who've
reported seeing these guys do things that are just exceptional
things that a normal flesh and blood animal would never
be able to do. So it really does make you wonder.
It really does. Now when you go into the field
with squatch fishing outfitters, do you do some more to
enjoy yourself out there in the woods, or more so
to learn all you can about Sasquatch.
Speaker 1: Well, I when I go out into the woods, I
really number one. I do it just to be with friends,
be out in the woods and just put my phone
down and be present, because you know, with how things
are these days, it's very hard to be present. And
that's one thing I really like about going on these
expeditions is that it just really grounds you into what's happening.
But also you know the curiosity of it all. You know,
I've always loved to explore, and this feels like, you know,
breaking new grounds and you know, who knows what you're
gonna find your experience each time you go out there.
Speaker 3: I can definitely understand those sentiments. I mean, after all,
a bad day in the woods beats a good day
in the office any day. So I get it, I
really do. Do you ever get so hung up on
the investigatory side of outings that you wind up forgetting
to just enjoy yourself out there?
Speaker 1: No, each time we go out there, I really enjoy myself. Now,
if we had a certain encounter that that was pretty rough,
are very perplexing it can sometimes put a damper on things,
but also you know that's what you're out there for,
so it can be a little bit exciting even though
you don't think you have, you know, any new pieces
of data. It's just another story to add to the pot,
you know, to It's like these little pieces that we
hope can come together to one day see the big picture.
And I think that's really the key to figuring a
lot of this out is, you know, taking all these
little pieces and then you know, seeing what picture. Sure
it's making well.
Speaker 3: Piece by piece. It sounds like you guys are putting
the puzzle together. Now. I know a lot of people
listening to tonight's show don't realize that Squatch Fishing Outfitters
doesn't just do field investigations by themselves for people who
want to have an experience themselves. They can also accommodate
those people as well. What more can you tell us
about that? And how someone who wants to go out
with you on and out and can do so?
Speaker 1: Well, we're on Facebook and Undersquatch Fishing Outfitters and you
know they can contact Scott or Sheila if they want
to go. We have you know a few spots left
this year. And for the people that don't think they
can do this, they don't think they can hike. You know,
there there's been people that can't really walk that well
that go out with us. You know, that's why we
kind of split off. As long as you can get
in a car and get out of a car, you're
pretty pretty good. We're not really that far from our cars.
The places that we pick, granted, are deep into the woods,
but we're always right by our car. And so if
you don't want to go hiking out in the woods
a couple of miles, you can always stay with the
group that stays around the campfire. A lot of times
the people around the campfire get more activity than the
ones hiking, because it seems like they're very curious creatures.
And the more you just sit around and you talk
and you make noise, it seems to draw that curiosity.
Speaker 3: It's funny how that works, isn't It seems like in
a lot of cases, when you sit around the fire,
you have better luck than the people who head into
the woods. But then again, it seems like if you
want to have an encounter, it's best just to let
them find you. Start to trying to find them. So, yeah,
that's just how it is. You've got an expedition coming
up when work, can you tell us about that?
Speaker 1: Well, we have one coming up in two weeks. It's
going to be an expedition with Maria Mayor and rest
Acord from Expedition Bigfoot. We're taking them and about twenty
people out into the woods for the weekend and we're
going to be their hosts and we'll see how it goes.
I'm very excited to you know, learn from them and
what they'd bring to the field. And so that's that's
it's very exciting. I've been planning for weeks, you know,
getting everything ready and and all that. We also have
one coming up and got a few others throughout the year.
Speaker 3: And if anyone's wondering about going out with these people
but you're not sure how it would be to interact
with them, trust me when I tell you this is
my first time interacting with Haley, but I've interacted with
Scott and Shila before. All of these investigators are really
nice to talk with and to interact with. Yeah, if
your concern is if you're going to bump into a
jerk that's on the outing, you shouldn't have to worry
about that at all. They're really nice people. They really
are well. Having said that, Haley, I can't thank you
enough for coming on to share those experiences with this.
I really appreciate it. Then, yeah, I'm going to have
a link. I'm going to get with Scott and Sheila
and I'm going to post a link to advertise that
expedition at the end of the month, actually I guess
it's May first through the third. I'm going to have
a link posted in the description for tonight's shows so
that anyone who's listening who wants to go, if they
still have any outings that is, you can just follow
that line to get more info. But having said that,
like I said, thanks again so much for your timing.
Have a great night. That's it for another episode of
Bigfoot Eyewitness Radio with Vic Kundiff. If you've had a
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