WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.560 --> 00:00:03.520 Welcome to More Outdoors on News Talk five sixty KLV. 2 00:00:03.879 --> 00:00:07.280 This is Chester Moore. If she caught the program. Last week, 3 00:00:07.360 --> 00:00:09.599 I was up at Captain Steve Steby's place and we 4 00:00:09.679 --> 00:00:11.679 did a really what I think was a fun and 5 00:00:11.720 --> 00:00:15.519 informative show about warm water fly fishing, which means most 6 00:00:15.560 --> 00:00:18.920 people think of fly fishing up in Montana, but like 7 00:00:19.079 --> 00:00:22.359 warm water fisheries, bluegal, crappie, bass, that kind of stuff. 8 00:00:22.879 --> 00:00:24.120 And I was gonna do. 9 00:00:24.079 --> 00:00:26.239 A part two of that and kind of switch back 10 00:00:26.280 --> 00:00:28.960 to the cold water fisheries, and he started interviewing me. 11 00:00:29.800 --> 00:00:33.479 So we're gonna run this interview because it gives you 12 00:00:34.240 --> 00:00:37.079 a deep, deep look at me that you normally might 13 00:00:37.119 --> 00:00:39.159 not get on this show, especially about the work we 14 00:00:39.240 --> 00:00:42.640 do with kids in wildlife. So here's me being interviewed 15 00:00:42.640 --> 00:00:44.119 by Captain Steve Stuby. 16 00:00:44.439 --> 00:00:45.759 And sit back, relax. 17 00:00:45.880 --> 00:00:48.880 I got a very legendary person sitting across from me 18 00:00:48.920 --> 00:00:51.159 wearing a mudfish hat this morning on Rod Chop. 19 00:00:51.560 --> 00:00:55.560 Mister Chester Moore, I am here. You are here, You're 20 00:00:55.600 --> 00:00:57.520 in my zone. You're in my area. 21 00:00:58.240 --> 00:01:00.759 So I'm in an interesting area here, you know, like 22 00:01:00.960 --> 00:01:02.880 you know, I'm I'm I'm used to tuluda Ben of 23 00:01:02.880 --> 00:01:04.519 course living in an Orange you know, been up here 24 00:01:04.599 --> 00:01:07.760 my whole life. But we're up here in kind of 25 00:01:07.799 --> 00:01:11.439 your facility, and we're seeing all these experimental flies, and 26 00:01:11.719 --> 00:01:13.319 I Mitch you to get on the water because I 27 00:01:13.359 --> 00:01:17.239 have this love for long This long eared sunfish. 28 00:01:16.840 --> 00:01:18.680 Is really beautiful. I've got them, I got this, and. 29 00:01:18.599 --> 00:01:19.640 They're right behind us. 30 00:01:19.680 --> 00:01:22.040 So I'm gonna take his three way purple cook ousso 31 00:01:22.040 --> 00:01:25.000 some purple purchase pluckers, fly rod, and I'm gonna go 32 00:01:25.040 --> 00:01:27.719 out back. I'm probably gonna don't tell Scooby, put one 33 00:01:27.719 --> 00:01:30.239 of my crazy little tiny flies on, and I'm gonna 34 00:01:30.239 --> 00:01:31.519 go catch the new Lake records. 35 00:01:31.560 --> 00:01:32.640 I'm gonna, oh that'd be cool. 36 00:01:32.719 --> 00:01:36.760 Yeah, absolutely well, even way out here at a facility 37 00:01:36.799 --> 00:01:38.680 that actually has certified to work from the Parks of 38 00:01:38.719 --> 00:01:41.359 Wildlife yeap. And we have a lot of records here, 39 00:01:41.400 --> 00:01:44.400 so welcome and come get us another number twenty seven record. 40 00:01:44.439 --> 00:01:46.120 Hopefully it's gonna have twenty six. 41 00:01:46.400 --> 00:01:47.239 Just having a great time. 42 00:01:47.280 --> 00:01:48.719 Yeah, we'll be here for a couple of days and 43 00:01:48.920 --> 00:01:50.400 take you out and put you on the gator tail. 44 00:01:50.400 --> 00:01:52.519 We'll go we get some flats, yep, and we'll see 45 00:01:52.519 --> 00:01:55.200 if we can find some mass today hopefully. Yeah, And 46 00:01:55.319 --> 00:01:56.799 I know the brim er out there because the full 47 00:01:56.840 --> 00:01:59.040 moon it's just on the backside, so I know they're 48 00:01:59.079 --> 00:02:02.560 still in their little potholes doing their little happy thing. 49 00:02:02.840 --> 00:02:04.599 Yeah. I love it. Okay, so we'll go do that 50 00:02:04.640 --> 00:02:06.560 some of that today. Well, Chester, what have you been 51 00:02:06.560 --> 00:02:09.120 in here too late? I'd watched you on Instagram and 52 00:02:09.159 --> 00:02:10.680 you got the shark thing going on. Kind of open 53 00:02:10.759 --> 00:02:12.719 up about that. Just a little bit. That's happening this 54 00:02:12.800 --> 00:02:13.360 weekendn't it. 55 00:02:13.479 --> 00:02:16.639 Yeah, I've got some crazy stuff going on. So I 56 00:02:16.719 --> 00:02:19.520 love sharks and I was a weird kid. I saw 57 00:02:19.599 --> 00:02:21.199 Jaws and want to get in the water. 58 00:02:21.360 --> 00:02:24.159 You know, Ah, you crazy? Yeah, well you know, yeah, you. 59 00:02:24.199 --> 00:02:27.240 Had mister Hooper played by Richard Dreyfuss, who was the 60 00:02:27.280 --> 00:02:29.719 researcher the cage, and he had Captain Quinn, who was 61 00:02:29.719 --> 00:02:31.280 the old salt in the boat. You know. 62 00:02:31.639 --> 00:02:34.000 I came out a hybrid between the two somehow. 63 00:02:34.360 --> 00:02:37.240 But uh, you know, I've been doing great white shark 64 00:02:37.319 --> 00:02:39.879 research as a journalist for since at least. 65 00:02:39.680 --> 00:02:41.520 Still five in the golfing Wow that far back. 66 00:02:41.599 --> 00:02:44.199 Yeah, very early in my career when a friend of mine, 67 00:02:44.520 --> 00:02:47.400 Ryan warhola who was a charter captain and I believe 68 00:02:47.400 --> 00:02:47.919 he still is. 69 00:02:48.639 --> 00:02:50.879 Had an encounter with a great white on a charter. 70 00:02:50.680 --> 00:02:52.520 Trip in the golf of Mexico has have been passed 71 00:02:53.120 --> 00:02:56.479 and I wrote an article. I wrote an article about it, 72 00:02:56.960 --> 00:03:00.800 and it was for Tide magazine award that year from 73 00:03:00.840 --> 00:03:03.080 Texas out there writers. But a lot of people are like, 74 00:03:03.080 --> 00:03:06.319 there's no great whites in the Gulf and that's bad, bad, 75 00:03:06.360 --> 00:03:09.599 bad bad bah. Well, like six years later, a group 76 00:03:09.599 --> 00:03:13.400 called O Search started putting satellite transmitters in great white 77 00:03:13.439 --> 00:03:18.159 sharks and when the shark dorsal fin surfaces, it pings 78 00:03:18.159 --> 00:03:18.879 to a satellite. 79 00:03:19.039 --> 00:03:22.120 Okay, only when the surfaces, only the surfaces. Why is that? 80 00:03:22.159 --> 00:03:23.360 Because of trackers? 81 00:03:23.400 --> 00:03:25.919 But the satellite tracker like a clear shot, you know, okay, 82 00:03:25.960 --> 00:03:28.599 clear that makes sense, you know. And you know, all 83 00:03:28.639 --> 00:03:31.039 of a sudden, Panama City, Florida is having great whites 84 00:03:31.080 --> 00:03:35.560 show up, and you know, Biloxi, Mississippi. And I said, 85 00:03:35.599 --> 00:03:37.159 We're gonna have one pop up and one of these 86 00:03:37.240 --> 00:03:39.120 great one of these O Search fish gonna pop. 87 00:03:39.039 --> 00:03:39.719 Up in Texas. 88 00:03:40.319 --> 00:03:45.039 And in twenty twenty one, this is a total Chester story. 89 00:03:45.479 --> 00:03:50.039 I am in the Sky Islands area of southeastern Arizona 90 00:03:50.479 --> 00:03:54.639 photographing the fifth and mysterious member of the subspecies of 91 00:03:54.639 --> 00:03:57.919 turkey in America, the gulds turkey for a quest. 92 00:03:57.639 --> 00:03:58.919 I was doing. I never heard one. 93 00:03:59.000 --> 00:03:59.800 Yeah in an area. 94 00:03:59.840 --> 00:04:03.039 There just been a jaguar photographed two weeks earlier on 95 00:04:03.080 --> 00:04:05.759 the Mexico line. And uh, come back to the hotel 96 00:04:05.840 --> 00:04:10.120 that night, I'm doing some photo editing work and you know, 97 00:04:10.439 --> 00:04:13.080 I look on in my email and someone say, hey, 98 00:04:13.080 --> 00:04:16.160 did you see the video someone posted of the orcas 99 00:04:16.160 --> 00:04:17.759 in the Great and the Golf. I knew there was 100 00:04:17.759 --> 00:04:20.160 a pod of orcs or two that had been seeing 101 00:04:20.199 --> 00:04:21.959 by research his way out, but you know, it had 102 00:04:22.000 --> 00:04:26.360 been years. A charter captain and Galveson had gotten video 103 00:04:26.560 --> 00:04:27.720 mini orcas. 104 00:04:28.160 --> 00:04:29.759 So I like, what do you call a pod? Is 105 00:04:29.759 --> 00:04:31.759 that four to five? Or that this was a dozen? 106 00:04:31.959 --> 00:04:35.040 A bunch? This was a bunch. Okay, like a lot, 107 00:04:35.279 --> 00:04:36.040 a lot of them. 108 00:04:35.920 --> 00:04:36.399 A whole lot. 109 00:04:36.720 --> 00:04:39.920 So I found a guy I message in my FUNDI 110 00:04:39.920 --> 00:04:41.879 on Facebook say it's chest from war. I'm a text 111 00:04:41.879 --> 00:04:43.959 fishing game. I would love to do something for our 112 00:04:44.120 --> 00:04:47.160 newsletter about the orca thing. And I embed your video. 113 00:04:47.720 --> 00:04:50.800 Thank god, you regular. I grew up reading your stuff please, 114 00:04:50.839 --> 00:04:52.720 and I interviewed even at the end of that conversation. 115 00:04:53.319 --> 00:04:56.480 At the end of that conversation, he goes, oh, yeah, 116 00:04:56.519 --> 00:04:58.839 it's getting crazy out there. Yesterday one of the osearch 117 00:04:58.879 --> 00:05:03.879 Great Whites pinged it such and such rig. And when 118 00:05:03.920 --> 00:05:05.959 it pinged at the rig, I'm like, oh my god. 119 00:05:06.000 --> 00:05:07.480 So I went on the O search app and that 120 00:05:07.600 --> 00:05:09.079 night I broke two stories. 121 00:05:09.439 --> 00:05:11.600 Nobody had the Orca story. 122 00:05:11.839 --> 00:05:12.519 I got to do that. 123 00:05:12.560 --> 00:05:13.959 He had posted it on, but I did, like, had 124 00:05:13.959 --> 00:05:17.519 an interview with him, and then after that I did 125 00:05:17.560 --> 00:05:20.040 this story about this O search great white it pinged 126 00:05:20.040 --> 00:05:23.000 about one hundred and twenty miles out of Galveston, pretty 127 00:05:23.040 --> 00:05:26.680 far out but Texas waters and which was awesome, you know. 128 00:05:26.839 --> 00:05:31.160 But last year, I mean, actually this year, everything changed 129 00:05:31.279 --> 00:05:34.480 to a whole dynamic on on Instagram one day and 130 00:05:34.519 --> 00:05:39.199 someone posts, hey, man, this app this great white pinged 131 00:05:39.199 --> 00:05:41.319 one hundred yards from the beach at South Padrea no. 132 00:05:41.560 --> 00:05:43.639 Way, and I'm like, what dude. 133 00:05:43.839 --> 00:05:45.800 So I went on that app and I didn't see it, 134 00:05:45.839 --> 00:05:47.839 but I noticed it was a different group called the 135 00:05:47.879 --> 00:05:51.319 Atlantic White Shark Conservancy. They have a killer app called 136 00:05:51.360 --> 00:05:54.560 shark Tivity, and they tagged sharks in the Cape Cod 137 00:05:54.600 --> 00:05:58.120 area in South Carolina on the Atlantic coast. And this 138 00:05:58.279 --> 00:06:01.800 great white was tagged in December of twenty twenty three, 139 00:06:02.680 --> 00:06:07.639 and it showed up so like December to eighth February 140 00:06:07.680 --> 00:06:10.879 twenty sixth. It was from South Carolina and one hundred 141 00:06:10.920 --> 00:06:14.120 yards off the beach at South Padre. 142 00:06:14.600 --> 00:06:16.120 But it had to service in order to get to 143 00:06:16.120 --> 00:06:16.439 that such. 144 00:06:16.560 --> 00:06:19.399 Yeah, and this is the most surfacing shark in the 145 00:06:19.519 --> 00:06:21.079 history of satellite tagging. 146 00:06:21.199 --> 00:06:21.680 He knows it. 147 00:06:21.759 --> 00:06:24.800 Her name is Leebeth Okay Lee Beth's a little old girl, 148 00:06:24.839 --> 00:06:27.720 fourteen and a half feet, twenty six hundred pounds, oh. 149 00:06:27.680 --> 00:06:29.040 Just twenty six It is the big deal. 150 00:06:29.160 --> 00:06:32.360 A hundred yards off the beach, Yeah, and a big, 151 00:06:32.480 --> 00:06:35.319 huge shark. And she made her little journey up the 152 00:06:35.319 --> 00:06:39.759 coast of Texas, and she made it to Sabine, where 153 00:06:39.759 --> 00:06:41.240 I'm from. 154 00:06:41.480 --> 00:06:43.240 And like in a week or are they staying for 155 00:06:43.279 --> 00:06:45.680 a couple of days? She hung? What are they feeding 156 00:06:45.720 --> 00:06:46.680 on or what is she trying to? Look? 157 00:06:46.680 --> 00:06:48.519 There's a lot of mysteries of worth they're eating. They're 158 00:06:48.519 --> 00:06:51.000 assuming dolphins and stuff, but also there's been old studies 159 00:06:51.040 --> 00:06:53.600 that were eating redfish and sharks and everything else anything. 160 00:06:53.639 --> 00:06:54.439 I mean it's a great white. 161 00:06:54.439 --> 00:06:55.240 They can they want. 162 00:06:55.160 --> 00:06:56.800 Turtles turtles in South text. 163 00:06:56.920 --> 00:06:57.079 Yeah. 164 00:06:57.560 --> 00:07:01.639 And the guy Ryan Worehol who saw the White in 165 00:07:01.639 --> 00:07:03.519 two thousand and five, and he was like twenty years 166 00:07:03.560 --> 00:07:06.240 old out there doing that text me when it pinged 167 00:07:06.240 --> 00:07:08.319 off a sabine and goes to think they thought we 168 00:07:08.319 --> 00:07:11.480 were crazy twenty years ago. He goes, that was probably 169 00:07:11.560 --> 00:07:16.600 ten miles from where I saw the White in two. 170 00:07:16.519 --> 00:07:17.240 Thousand and five. 171 00:07:18.120 --> 00:07:21.920 So cool, full circle moment and they observe it. Yeah, 172 00:07:22.040 --> 00:07:24.839 really incredible, and he's a very knowledgeable guy. She made 173 00:07:24.839 --> 00:07:27.959 her journey around the golf kind of went out around Biloxi, 174 00:07:29.000 --> 00:07:31.759 out to around Panama City. Then she went out in 175 00:07:31.800 --> 00:07:34.360 the open golf and she went around the straight to Florida, 176 00:07:34.519 --> 00:07:36.959 ended up and guess where she is and we're recording 177 00:07:36.959 --> 00:07:39.839 this here in the early late summer. 178 00:07:41.079 --> 00:07:42.199 She's in Nova Scotia. 179 00:07:42.720 --> 00:07:45.240 She was crazy. Yeah, I mean, it's amazing. 180 00:07:45.360 --> 00:07:48.120 So we're working on I have a new blog, Golf 181 00:07:48.160 --> 00:07:50.959 Great Whites dot Com, and it's all about the great 182 00:07:50.959 --> 00:07:53.000 white shark issues in the golf in Mexico, like they're 183 00:07:53.040 --> 00:07:56.240 here and great White Shark research. Plus I throw other 184 00:07:56.319 --> 00:07:58.600 shark stuff in the golf and they're like cool stuff happens, 185 00:07:58.639 --> 00:08:01.279 Like someone catches us fifteen foot tiger shark at the 186 00:08:01.319 --> 00:08:05.439 beach or whatever crazy thing happens. I'm in Hammerhead. That's 187 00:08:05.439 --> 00:08:07.560 what's kind of going on. Tiger shark would be cool too. 188 00:08:08.040 --> 00:08:11.000 Have you ever seen a tiger whale. No, I've seen 189 00:08:11.000 --> 00:08:12.399 one off shore where they're beautiful. 190 00:08:12.439 --> 00:08:14.920 Oh my god. He's on an old rig out there. 191 00:08:15.000 --> 00:08:17.279 Everybody went to the rail, like you said, one day, Yeah, 192 00:08:17.319 --> 00:08:19.839 and we just watched this thing just cruised their reels slowly, 193 00:08:19.959 --> 00:08:20.879 just like a well shark. 194 00:08:20.959 --> 00:08:24.199 Yeah, whale shark. We've had like panther dots all over it. 195 00:08:24.519 --> 00:08:27.560 So there's a there's a crazy thing that happens. 196 00:08:28.439 --> 00:08:31.120 And eighty two, I think it was maybe eighty one 197 00:08:31.160 --> 00:08:35.080 eighty two a well shark got in Sabine Link. It 198 00:08:35.159 --> 00:08:38.000 must have been sick and it ended up in Sabine 199 00:08:38.080 --> 00:08:41.639 Link and it was got on a mud flat okay, 200 00:08:42.000 --> 00:08:44.679 and it got a warm welcome. It got shot a 201 00:08:44.720 --> 00:08:48.480 bunch of times and killed. There's no reason, yeah, no reason. 202 00:08:48.559 --> 00:08:50.120 And they end up having the hault back out to 203 00:08:50.200 --> 00:08:52.360 the They ended up having the haul it back out 204 00:08:52.440 --> 00:08:55.360 or whatever, you know. But just a crazy little weird 205 00:08:55.440 --> 00:08:58.399 this is all the stuff, Scooby that's in my. 206 00:08:57.759 --> 00:09:02.600 My brain, my little you know, the fascinating man. That's 207 00:09:02.639 --> 00:09:05.440 a crazy old wildlife journalists bringing back. 208 00:09:05.320 --> 00:09:07.799 Then you know, no, and those are the kind of 209 00:09:07.799 --> 00:09:08.399 things I remember. 210 00:09:08.639 --> 00:09:09.799 I couldn't have remembered. 211 00:09:09.480 --> 00:09:11.279 Any math garbage I learned at the school. 212 00:09:11.279 --> 00:09:13.679 But I can tell you exactly about that this well 213 00:09:13.720 --> 00:09:15.720 shark ended up being late because I think that that's 214 00:09:15.759 --> 00:09:16.559 an important. 215 00:09:16.200 --> 00:09:17.360 Memory, the date and all that. 216 00:09:17.360 --> 00:09:18.320 That's an important memory. 217 00:09:18.360 --> 00:09:20.279 So when she did the journey from Padrea all the 218 00:09:20.320 --> 00:09:22.440 way back up north, and were we talking a year? 219 00:09:22.480 --> 00:09:23.480 We're talking six months? 220 00:09:23.679 --> 00:09:26.120 Oh no, brother, Well, first off, she was some think 221 00:09:26.159 --> 00:09:30.200 about this December eight, twenty twenty three. She's she's in 222 00:09:30.240 --> 00:09:33.440 South Carolina, the Atlantic coast. February twenty sixth, she's a 223 00:09:33.480 --> 00:09:34.960 South Padre. 224 00:09:36.919 --> 00:09:37.279 Moving. 225 00:09:37.600 --> 00:09:40.200 Yeah, so February twenty sixth. 226 00:09:40.840 --> 00:09:42.600 You know, she makes her journey across the gulf, hangs 227 00:09:42.600 --> 00:09:45.039 out in the spring and then like she was up 228 00:09:45.080 --> 00:09:48.360 I think in Nova Scotia by like June maybe July. 229 00:09:48.519 --> 00:09:50.919 They swam in every day all day and its amazing. 230 00:09:51.080 --> 00:09:53.759 So as a shark fan, when we come back on 231 00:09:53.840 --> 00:09:56.639 more out doors, the tables remain turned as I get 232 00:09:56.679 --> 00:10:01.720 interviewed about sharks and other cool stuff. Welcome back to 233 00:10:01.759 --> 00:10:04.639 More Outdoors on News Talk five sixty KLV. I don't 234 00:10:04.679 --> 00:10:06.840 forget to catch the show every Friday year from six 235 00:10:06.919 --> 00:10:10.440 to seven pm Central Standard Time. You can catch the 236 00:10:10.519 --> 00:10:15.080 program also on the iHeartRadio app in all places you 237 00:10:15.200 --> 00:10:18.799 listen to podcast. And last week I got the tables 238 00:10:18.799 --> 00:10:21.759 turned on me when I was interviewing Captain Steve Stuoby, 239 00:10:21.799 --> 00:10:23.840 and he did just pulled a lot of stuff out 240 00:10:23.840 --> 00:10:26.840 of me, sending across from the microphone. Things you've never 241 00:10:26.879 --> 00:10:29.519 really heard, perspectives on the work we do with kids 242 00:10:29.519 --> 00:10:32.720 in wildlife, and some other stuff. And we're gonna air 243 00:10:32.840 --> 00:10:35.200 that tonight because I think he kind of nailed me 244 00:10:35.360 --> 00:10:36.000 in the interview. 245 00:10:36.120 --> 00:10:37.360 So check this out. 246 00:10:37.399 --> 00:10:40.960 Continuing our conversation up at Toledo Band and I got 247 00:10:40.960 --> 00:10:43.919 to go. There's a group called the Atlantic White Shark Conservancy. 248 00:10:43.960 --> 00:10:46.320 Please download their app shar Activity. Oh Search is another 249 00:10:46.360 --> 00:10:48.279 awesome group. They have the. 250 00:10:47.879 --> 00:10:51.120 Shark Tracker app and both great groups. 251 00:10:52.200 --> 00:10:54.919 I got to go to a media day in Cape 252 00:10:54.919 --> 00:10:58.559 cod at the White Shark Conservations headquarters, which was amazing, 253 00:10:59.200 --> 00:11:02.679 And there will be something other media wise I can't 254 00:11:02.679 --> 00:11:03.080 talk about. 255 00:11:03.279 --> 00:11:05.000 You've got a big smile on his face right now. 256 00:11:05.120 --> 00:11:06.120 He's holding back on. 257 00:11:06.080 --> 00:11:06.879 My boys and girls. 258 00:11:07.080 --> 00:11:09.240 Very soon he's holding out on me. 259 00:11:09.399 --> 00:11:10.960 Yeah, but that that's just fun stuff. 260 00:11:11.000 --> 00:11:11.159 Man. 261 00:11:11.200 --> 00:11:13.720 You know what I like about that is, you know, 262 00:11:13.840 --> 00:11:17.600 you and I could talk about fishing, fly fishing, duck honting, yeah, turkey, honey, everything, 263 00:11:17.639 --> 00:11:20.080 and that's fun. But and there'll be a certain amount 264 00:11:20.080 --> 00:11:22.240 of people. But when I mentioned great white sharks, the 265 00:11:22.320 --> 00:11:25.679 audience opens up people. So it's a great gateway into 266 00:11:25.679 --> 00:11:27.120 getting people interested in nature. 267 00:11:27.240 --> 00:11:29.320 You know, I'm not going to tell you more about that. 268 00:11:29.320 --> 00:11:32.519 I donim was spoiling with surprises. I know there's some 269 00:11:32.559 --> 00:11:36.799 other things going on. It's as a day prespared. Let's 270 00:11:36.799 --> 00:11:38.799 get back to fly ship place it a little bit, okay. 271 00:11:38.840 --> 00:11:40.559 I know you kind of got your feet in that 272 00:11:40.639 --> 00:11:42.679 so many years back and you haven't stopped. 273 00:11:43.039 --> 00:11:45.200 You've gone how many different states now just fly fishing. 274 00:11:45.200 --> 00:11:46.440 I think it's eight eight? 275 00:11:46.480 --> 00:11:48.840 And what all the species? What number of species have you? 276 00:11:48.919 --> 00:11:51.960 I hit twenty five twenty five two weeks ago from 277 00:11:51.960 --> 00:11:52.519 this recording. 278 00:11:53.639 --> 00:11:55.000 Well, can you give us a hint what some of 279 00:11:55.000 --> 00:11:55.360 that would be? 280 00:11:55.840 --> 00:11:57.320 It was a little rock bass in Tennessee. 281 00:11:57.480 --> 00:12:02.639 Okay, but I've caught everything from you know, brook trout, 282 00:12:02.720 --> 00:12:07.559 rainbow trout, cut west slope cutthroat, yellowstone cutthroat, a cut bow, 283 00:12:07.600 --> 00:12:12.720 which is a hybrid. I've caught butterfly, peacock, bass, mayan cichlids, 284 00:12:13.360 --> 00:12:18.519 large bass in Florida, redfish, you know, I've caught speckled 285 00:12:18.519 --> 00:12:23.200 trouts before, and saltwater you know. I've caught you know, 286 00:12:23.919 --> 00:12:28.360 my beloved long ear sunfish, red air sunfish, crappie, white crappie, 287 00:12:28.360 --> 00:12:31.919 black coppie, you know. And it's been a fun adventure. 288 00:12:31.960 --> 00:12:33.639 And like I tell people, look, I'm a I'm not 289 00:12:33.720 --> 00:12:36.120 a bowl in a China closet. I'm a cake buffalo 290 00:12:36.879 --> 00:12:38.759 with rabies in a China closet. 291 00:12:39.159 --> 00:12:42.399 And I somehow managed to still catch fish. 292 00:12:42.840 --> 00:12:45.960 So it's it's it's not just a pursuit for the 293 00:12:46.039 --> 00:12:48.559 dainty and the very skill. It's a pursuit for anyone 294 00:12:48.559 --> 00:12:49.519 who wants to go have fun. 295 00:12:49.679 --> 00:12:50.360 Just go have fun. 296 00:12:50.399 --> 00:12:52.759 So how many youngsters have you introduced fly fishing too? 297 00:12:53.240 --> 00:12:55.120 I know we did some special rods for you for that. 298 00:12:55.279 --> 00:12:58.120 While yeah, you know, I've done several. 299 00:12:58.159 --> 00:13:00.559 We've had a couple of expeditions for Guadeloo pay bass 300 00:13:00.559 --> 00:13:02.600 out of the Texas Hill Country. Have taken several out 301 00:13:02.639 --> 00:13:06.480 there and done fly fishing, but most of our only 302 00:13:06.519 --> 00:13:08.360 taking kids fishing and just to put them on fish. 303 00:13:08.440 --> 00:13:10.840 So you spinning year, you know, because they did. They're 304 00:13:10.919 --> 00:13:13.799 like any level kids. They taking a few and taking 305 00:13:13.799 --> 00:13:16.440 them out the beautiful Dwexus River. You know, they're sitting 306 00:13:16.480 --> 00:13:18.639 in three feet of water casting and it's you know, 307 00:13:19.080 --> 00:13:19.720 you know, it's like. 308 00:13:20.440 --> 00:13:21.360 Crystal clear water. 309 00:13:22.519 --> 00:13:25.840 Beautiful areas and stuff like that for our native Guadeloupe bash, 310 00:13:25.919 --> 00:13:29.000 you know, and that is fun stuff, you know. And 311 00:13:29.240 --> 00:13:34.720 I learned something through uh someone who does h a 312 00:13:34.720 --> 00:13:37.240 gun in Chris Johnson was Living Water's fly shop up 313 00:13:37.279 --> 00:13:40.240 in the Round Rock. I just so I wish we 314 00:13:40.279 --> 00:13:42.639 had trout or native try to Texas be goes we do, 315 00:13:43.639 --> 00:13:46.879 and I didn't know that the Rio grand cutthroat was 316 00:13:46.879 --> 00:13:51.200 a native to Texas. There there was an old Texas 317 00:13:51.279 --> 00:13:54.000 Parks and Wildlife document shows out in the trans Pakos 318 00:13:54.000 --> 00:13:56.679 before some mining activities screwed up some streams and stuff. 319 00:13:57.120 --> 00:14:01.279 There were Rio grand cutthroat trout native to Texas. You 320 00:14:01.279 --> 00:14:03.279 can go to Higher Calling dot net and read my 321 00:14:03.399 --> 00:14:06.440 blog search cutthroat and you'll see an article I did 322 00:14:06.519 --> 00:14:08.840 call the native trout of Texas, and it was not 323 00:14:08.919 --> 00:14:09.919 about speckled trout. 324 00:14:10.000 --> 00:14:12.159 It was about a true trout. 325 00:14:12.519 --> 00:14:13.559 And what did you catch that on? 326 00:14:13.639 --> 00:14:16.159 Like they're no longer there? 327 00:14:16.480 --> 00:14:18.120 Oh they were native okay? 328 00:14:18.399 --> 00:14:20.320 And you know, and I think he has wanted to 329 00:14:20.360 --> 00:14:22.639 maybe find some places they may still be able to 330 00:14:22.639 --> 00:14:24.519 hang and put them back, you know, maybe get a 331 00:14:24.559 --> 00:14:26.240 movement to put them back. But we had a native 332 00:14:26.279 --> 00:14:29.159 trout of Texas. It's just because of changes done out there, 333 00:14:29.159 --> 00:14:29.679 they were gone. 334 00:14:29.720 --> 00:14:31.960 They're gone, so they're they're extinct now. 335 00:14:32.039 --> 00:14:34.480 They're not in Texas. There in New Mexico. 336 00:14:34.559 --> 00:14:36.960 Now, okay, we can get the breed back that way, 337 00:14:37.000 --> 00:14:41.080 there were native trout cut through my mind blowing. 338 00:14:41.360 --> 00:14:43.399 Another thing that I found out which is mind blowing, 339 00:14:43.519 --> 00:14:47.480 I just in general research. You know, the only year 340 00:14:47.559 --> 00:14:50.840 long trout stream in Texas is the tail Race Blank 341 00:14:50.879 --> 00:14:54.360 Canyon Lake in New bron Files and it's to go 342 00:14:54.360 --> 00:14:57.120 out Lupe River the tail Race. It's about ten miles shot, 343 00:14:57.200 --> 00:15:00.240 cool enough year around trout can live there. There is 344 00:15:00.279 --> 00:15:04.639 a lake in Guadaloupe Mountains National Park on the Texas 345 00:15:04.639 --> 00:15:08.519 New Mexico border that before it was public land. Someone 346 00:15:08.600 --> 00:15:10.639 owned it and they stocked rainbow and there was a 347 00:15:10.720 --> 00:15:13.480 self producing rainbow trout population in a lake in the 348 00:15:13.480 --> 00:15:14.360 Guadaloupe Mountain. 349 00:15:14.480 --> 00:15:15.320 How big is that lake? 350 00:15:15.720 --> 00:15:17.360 I don't know, but they won't like it fishing. 351 00:15:17.440 --> 00:15:21.240 Okay, yeah, crazy, But anyway, that's just one of those 352 00:15:21.399 --> 00:15:23.399 crazy Chester facts, you know, stuff. 353 00:15:23.200 --> 00:15:25.639 Like did you like fish moving water or do you 354 00:15:25.759 --> 00:15:28.720 like you prefer lake water, which is steal water, warm 355 00:15:28.720 --> 00:15:30.879 water to reach a little cold, you've done both. 356 00:15:31.000 --> 00:15:32.360 I like it all, you like it all. 357 00:15:32.519 --> 00:15:34.559 I like it all, but I'm a lot more comfortable 358 00:15:34.679 --> 00:15:37.120 in the warm water stuff, okay, and cause you know, 359 00:15:37.360 --> 00:15:40.200 let's ait trouter snobs, and every once in a while 360 00:15:40.240 --> 00:15:42.279 they get too snobby. I was in the Big Thompson Canyon. 361 00:15:42.320 --> 00:15:44.240 We do one of our higer ConA wilife expeditions for 362 00:15:44.320 --> 00:15:47.399 kids there. My priority isn't fishing. My priority was taking 363 00:15:47.399 --> 00:15:48.960 the kids out. But I had, like every day, I 364 00:15:49.000 --> 00:15:51.080 have like an hour or two gap. One day I 365 00:15:51.080 --> 00:15:52.600 went out and I went to a spot I know 366 00:15:52.639 --> 00:15:55.320 in the Big Thompson Canyon between my favorite place on 367 00:15:55.399 --> 00:15:55.960 planet Earth. 368 00:15:56.000 --> 00:15:58.440 If you want to buy me a cabin, please buy me. 369 00:15:58.519 --> 00:15:59.759 I will take a donation as. 370 00:15:59.639 --> 00:16:02.840 This part it be a sponsorship, Yeah, sponsor me please. 371 00:16:03.240 --> 00:16:05.519 That's this park, Colorado, my dream beautiful. 372 00:16:05.679 --> 00:16:05.879 Yeah. 373 00:16:05.879 --> 00:16:07.960 Between that's this park and Loveland. The Big Thompson came 374 00:16:08.000 --> 00:16:10.000 in one of the most beautiful places in the world. And 375 00:16:10.159 --> 00:16:11.720 I know spots got a lot of trout. 376 00:16:11.720 --> 00:16:11.960 Brother. 377 00:16:12.039 --> 00:16:14.679 I bet I had I fished a hopper dropper combo. 378 00:16:15.440 --> 00:16:16.000 I finished it. 379 00:16:16.000 --> 00:16:18.200 It was a simple It was a it was like 380 00:16:18.240 --> 00:16:20.639 an ant pattern midge, a little ant kind of like 381 00:16:20.679 --> 00:16:23.720 an ant and it had just a regular little kind. 382 00:16:23.600 --> 00:16:26.200 Of brown hoppy. Yeah. 383 00:16:26.279 --> 00:16:30.759 I bet I had thirty trout come up and swipe 384 00:16:30.799 --> 00:16:32.080 at my at my hopper. 385 00:16:32.279 --> 00:16:32.559 Yeah. 386 00:16:32.759 --> 00:16:35.320 Not one would take it. And there's trout and the 387 00:16:35.320 --> 00:16:38.840 Big Thompson and that essence park are notoriously snooty. It's 388 00:16:38.879 --> 00:16:40.960 considered one of the harder streams to fish. 389 00:16:41.879 --> 00:16:42.080 Yeah. 390 00:16:42.080 --> 00:16:43.720 And I've been there like the year before and me 391 00:16:43.759 --> 00:16:45.759 and me and Paul and my buddy Cameron Gorbett. 392 00:16:45.799 --> 00:16:47.080 We did really good, you know. 393 00:16:47.159 --> 00:16:49.360 But that day they come up and go no, and 394 00:16:49.360 --> 00:16:51.279 they would hit at it. They wouldn't touch the midge, 395 00:16:51.559 --> 00:16:54.360 but they wanted that hopper and they would not take it. 396 00:16:53.759 --> 00:16:55.919 They would bump it and look at it, and they 397 00:16:55.960 --> 00:16:58.159 get swirled by it and they're done. You know, I 398 00:16:58.240 --> 00:17:01.039 tried different, you know everything, know, and it just they 399 00:17:01.120 --> 00:17:01.840 just keep trying. 400 00:17:02.279 --> 00:17:04.039 Yeah, but it's fun, you know. 401 00:17:04.240 --> 00:17:07.359