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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, ripped of mad news, need advice, so.

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<v Speaker 3>Come running.

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<v Speaker 4>Just as fast as we can.

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<v Speaker 5>Shooter's gonna help come man Dix.

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<v Speaker 4>He is the Troubleshooter Show. Now Tom Martino.

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<v Speaker 6>Hello, Tom Martino here, Welcome to the show. Three oh

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<v Speaker 6>three seven one three talk three oh three seven one

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<v Speaker 1>Helping you solve problems, answer question, take a please make

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<v Speaker 6>A little easier, and we are doing it now. I'll

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<v Speaker 6>be bringing uh Mark up in a minute here on

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<v Speaker 6>his uh on his cam. I gotta send him a link.

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<v Speaker 6>for sure, and uh doing that right now, by the way.

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<v Speaker 1>That's for those streaming. Welcome.

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<v Speaker 6>But we're on k h ow and care do you

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<v Speaker 6>in Colorado Springs and we are all over the place

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<v Speaker 6>with you, and thanks for being here.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's just go to the phones and try to answer

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<v Speaker 1>every question you have. But there's a.

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<v Speaker 6>Lot in the news today that I really want to

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<v Speaker 6>talk about because it's very important right now, and it

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<v Speaker 6>has to do with overreactions and trusts and all kinds

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<v Speaker 6>of crap. People are so overreacting to things being done

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<v Speaker 6>by the government, and it's natural people. When I say people,

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<v Speaker 6>I'm talking about those opposed to Trump's guidelines. Anyone who's

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<v Speaker 6>in favor of it says it's wonderful. It's interesting to

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<v Speaker 6>note I'm not talking about this as a political entity.

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<v Speaker 6>Although Martin may want to chime in, he always does,

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<v Speaker 6>But I'm talking about approval ratings alone show that He's

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<v Speaker 6>entering the office with one of the highest approval ratings

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<v Speaker 6>of any president. Biden left with the lowest approval weighting

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<v Speaker 6>of any president. What do you think was so terrible?

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<v Speaker 6>I think prices. It comes right down to prices. I mean, god,

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<v Speaker 6>people are just we're so pissed at prices. But according

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<v Speaker 6>to a national survey, and this is very important, these

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<v Speaker 6>surveys are pretty damn accurate. What do you think was

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<v Speaker 6>the main issue or the main issue they want Trump

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<v Speaker 1>The border?

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<v Speaker 6>What's that? Actually, it's not according to this survey. What

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<v Speaker 6>is the survey? And I always ask to is it

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<v Speaker 6>an MSNBC survey? No, Mark, Mark, It's called Morning consult

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<v Speaker 6>And truly, let me say this, I have followed this

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<v Speaker 6>for a long time and they do surveys every day.

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<v Speaker 6>They do for industry, for health, for politics, for trends

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<v Speaker 6>for brands.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a very very reliable source.

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<v Speaker 6>Now, I will tell you at times I didn't agree

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<v Speaker 6>with their what they say, but they truly do have

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<v Speaker 6>a scientific method.

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<v Speaker 1>So it's Bloomberg polling.

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<v Speaker 6>I I don't know if they're influenced by Bloomberg Morning Consult.

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<v Speaker 6>I I don't know what what did you google it?

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah, it comes up Bloomberg slash Morning consolet polls?

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<v Speaker 6>Okay, Well do you and you think Bloomberg is a

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<v Speaker 6>flaming liberal and therefore he's going to skew all of

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<v Speaker 6>the polls?

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<v Speaker 1>Is that right? I would say there's definitely I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, I'm asking Mark. I mean, there's.

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<v Speaker 6>Definitely going to be put it this way. It wouldn't

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<v Speaker 6>be strange, would it. It wouldn't be strange if people

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<v Speaker 6>are skewed. But I I personally, I personally have found

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<v Speaker 6>them to be okay.

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<v Speaker 1>But but then again, listen, you know, uh what do

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<v Speaker 6>I mean, I didn't take the poll, but I've been

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<v Speaker 6>following them for a long time. There were a couple

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<v Speaker 6>times I said, well, I don't get this. According to

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<v Speaker 6>Morning Consult, the Trump voters, now Trump voters, these are

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<v Speaker 6>not are Actually I shouldn't say that. It's percentage of voters,

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<v Speaker 6>not Trump voters. Percentage of voters say right now what

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<v Speaker 6>they want him to do in office right now is

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<v Speaker 6>bring down the cost of goods seventy nine percent, bring

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<v Speaker 6>down the cost of goods. Seventy three percent say make

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<v Speaker 6>healthcare more affordable than mark number three, fifty two percent,

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<v Speaker 6>stop illegal immigration.

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<v Speaker 1>So what do you think happens? Just I want to

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<v Speaker 1>ask you this.

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<v Speaker 7>So someone is pulling people and they call up a

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<v Speaker 7>true Trumper, a Trump supporter fifty one percent of the

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<v Speaker 1>They asked that question.

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<v Speaker 7>I have no idea how they you know, worded the question,

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<v Speaker 7>gonna say the honest truth of what they're thinking? Do

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<v Speaker 7>you think they want to be called a racist by

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<v Speaker 7>of these polls.

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<v Speaker 6>Well, obviously polls crap in, crap out, but just so

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<v Speaker 6>you know, they have when they take polls, they do

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<v Speaker 6>have a way to look at a median and what's

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<v Speaker 6>called the thread of truth.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, I've often said we'll search.

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<v Speaker 7>Then how come every single poll was wrong on the

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<v Speaker 7>outcome of the election, every swing state poll, every national poll.

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<v Speaker 1>Why was that? Mark?

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<v Speaker 6>I am not talking about political polls. I'm talking about

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<v Speaker 6>polling in general. Okay, in general, there's something called the

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<v Speaker 6>thread of truth that if you talk to enough people,

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<v Speaker 6>a central or common line of truth a majority report. Now,

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<v Speaker 6>whether or not the people who gather these polls want

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<v Speaker 6>to interpret that and give a comment is one thing. Definitely.

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<v Speaker 6>I believe polls can be skewed. The way you ask

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<v Speaker 6>questions can be skewed. The report results and can be skewed.

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<v Speaker 6>They can be I'm not doubting that, And lately a

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<v Speaker 6>lot of political polls.

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<v Speaker 1>Have been dead wrong.

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<v Speaker 6>So I think on this most recent election, for example,

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<v Speaker 6>they showed such a tight race, My god. So in

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<v Speaker 6>that case, I do believe people don't want to tell

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<v Speaker 6>polsters the truth. They're pissed off at polsters and they

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<v Speaker 6>kind of think you don't really want to hear the

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<v Speaker 6>truth anyway, And I think they relish and they're happily

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<v Speaker 6>giving false information. Again, that could happen. All I'm doing

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<v Speaker 6>is giving the results. I think this is pretty credible.

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<v Speaker 6>Bringing down the cost of goods and services number one,

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<v Speaker 6>I think that's probably accurate. Number three being stopping illegal immigration.

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<v Speaker 6>I think that's pretty accurate. Making healthcare affordable, I'm not

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<v Speaker 6>sure that. I mean, they're saying it's right behind bringing

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<v Speaker 6>down inflation. Now, there are a lot of people who

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<v Speaker 6>are struggling with health care. I mean, to them, having

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<v Speaker 6>a so called affordable health care is not affordable at all.

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<v Speaker 1>It was, It's ludicrous.

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<v Speaker 6>They subsidize a lot of plans, but most of them.

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<v Speaker 6>If you have any kind of a job, you're going

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<v Speaker 6>to have a six thousand dollars deductible It may it

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<v Speaker 6>don't mean working, because that would be workers combat anyway. So,

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<v Speaker 6>reducing the federal deficit, the budget deficit, A lot of

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<v Speaker 6>people that that's right behind stopping illegal immigration one percent

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<v Speaker 6>behind reducing the federal budget deficit.

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<v Speaker 1>A lot of.

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<v Speaker 6>People misinterpret national debt with budget deficit two different things.

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<v Speaker 6>But you would be shocked at how many so called

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<v Speaker 6>intelligent people consider them one and the same. A national

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<v Speaker 6>debt is an accumulation of debt we have from notes

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<v Speaker 6>and from deficits over the years, and that national debt

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<v Speaker 6>will never be paid off ever. In fact, it grows

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<v Speaker 6>every year from every administration, and it will never be

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<v Speaker 6>paid off. In fact, a lot of the debt is

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<v Speaker 6>paid off, and for a large part of life, it's artificial.

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<v Speaker 6>I could get into that, but I don't want to.

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<v Speaker 6>No one's expecting it to be paid back. Everyone likes

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<v Speaker 6>the interest, and really it is a way of the world.

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<v Speaker 6>In fact, I don't want to get into it. But anyway,

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<v Speaker 6>reducing the deficit, though, simply means the money you take in,

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<v Speaker 6>you spend, and you don't accumulate debt you don't have,

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<v Speaker 6>you don't spend more than your taking in. And the

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<v Speaker 6>Trump administration is really trying to do that. I mean,

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<v Speaker 6>they're offering severance packages to federal workers they don't want

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<v Speaker 6>around anymore. They've stopped a lot of ridiculous fundings until

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<v Speaker 1>You know what's really funny.

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<v Speaker 6>People say they want to reduce debt, they want to

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<v Speaker 6>reduce deficit spending, and as soon As he starts questioning

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<v Speaker 6>these these grants and these charitable giveaways and these federal

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<v Speaker 6>government fundings, everyone comes on glued. But think about it,

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<v Speaker 6>they all got their money for this year. He's just saying,

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<v Speaker 6>do we want to continue this in the future. People

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<v Speaker 6>just go crazy. But anyway, you want to talk about

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<v Speaker 6>true inflation ending, that's what it is. The next thing,

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<v Speaker 6>countering the influence of foreign advertisers adversaries. I don't understand

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<v Speaker 6>that that's forty eight percent. They want to counter the

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<v Speaker 6>influence such as TikTok and others who they believe are

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<v Speaker 6>the country, mainly online and through social media. By the way,

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<v Speaker 6>stopping illegal immigration was fifty two percent of the electorate.

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<v Speaker 6>Now what's funny is forty two ten percent less but

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<v Speaker 1>They want to deport them.

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<v Speaker 6>See a lot of people want to stop the influx,

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<v Speaker 6>but don't necessarily want to deport. Now, reducing the number

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<v Speaker 6>of illegal ascuse me of legal immigrants even that's up

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<v Speaker 6>around thirty nine percent, So they don't even want to

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<v Speaker 6>They want to stop illegal immigration. They want to deport

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<v Speaker 6>illegal citizens or whatever you call it undocumented citizens, illegal immigrants.

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<v Speaker 6>Then they even want to reduce the number of legal

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<v Speaker 6>immigrants you let in. Now, I don't know why. I mean,

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<v Speaker 6>I think the country runs fine with immigrants. I think

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<v Speaker 6>it's the criminals and the cheaters and the liars that

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<v Speaker 6>make it bad for everyone. But if there was a

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<v Speaker 6>legal path to citizens ship for hard working people that

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<v Speaker 6>fill jobs that a lot of Americans don't want, I

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<v Speaker 6>think there's nothing wrong with it.

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<v Speaker 7>So all those people that waited in line and did

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<v Speaker 7>it the right way for five, seven, ten years forget

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<v Speaker 7>about it, right, What did you.

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<v Speaker 1>Just hear me say?

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<v Speaker 6>I just said, I think if someone is here legally

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<v Speaker 6>and wants to be a citizen, there's nothing wrong with that,

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<v Speaker 6>if they're hardworking people.

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<v Speaker 1>So how does that How is that at odds with

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<v Speaker 7>Because people fill out paperwork, come here legally, come here

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<v Speaker 7>on a work visa, come here to do something, not

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<v Speaker 7>just cross the border illegally and you know, get a

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<v Speaker 6>Well, all I'm saying is the people who are here

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<v Speaker 6>working hard, not criminals, and want a path to citizenship

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<v Speaker 6>should be given one don't what's wrong with that?

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<v Speaker 1>I mean not everyone.

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<v Speaker 7>No, you don't want that invites everybody in the world

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<v Speaker 7>to come here and cross the border without filling out.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm talking about work. I'm talking about from here.

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<v Speaker 6>I'm talking about the situation that we were dealt. I'm

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<v Speaker 6>not talking about inviting people to come illegally and then

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<v Speaker 6>don't I don't mean to. I just think it's good

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<v Speaker 6>Welcome to the show, folks. What's going on? Let's go

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<v Speaker 6>back to the phones and do what we can do

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<v Speaker 6>for you. David, what's going on with you?

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<v Speaker 1>David?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh?

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<v Speaker 5>Hi Tom, thanks for taking my call.

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<v Speaker 1>Hey man, what's happened in you know?

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<v Speaker 5>I wanted to let you know that I'm a gambler,

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<v Speaker 5>and I like going to Blackhawk and going to the casinos,

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<v Speaker 5>driving up there, eating at the restaurants, playing slots, playing

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<v Speaker 5>video poker.

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<v Speaker 8>For me, it's a good time.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. I had a lot of people like it.

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<v Speaker 9>Oh yeah.

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<v Speaker 5>So one of the places I really liked was the

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<v Speaker 5>Lodge Casino. I like the restaurants there, I like the

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<v Speaker 5>promotions they did, I like the people that I met there.

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<v Speaker 5>So I decided to play a lot more there to

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<v Speaker 5>try to get to what they call a VIP card

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<v Speaker 5>level in their players Club. So I had to play

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<v Speaker 5>about sixteen thousand coin through and I was successful. I

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<v Speaker 5>got a call from a host at their Players Club saying, Hey,

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<v Speaker 5>come on in, we'll tell you about your benefits. You

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<v Speaker 5>get freeplay, you get special drawing sports tickets. The day

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<v Speaker 5>I went up there, though, I went to get my

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<v Speaker 5>new card. I was at the front desk and a

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<v Speaker 5>gentleman by the name of Ben White, who was a

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<v Speaker 5>general manager, approached me and he had his head of

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<v Speaker 5>security and three other gentlemen. They surrounded me and they

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<v Speaker 5>said you are here.

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<v Speaker 1>By they surrounded you. Were you with Mark Major?

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<v Speaker 5>I don't know who he is.

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<v Speaker 1>From a major. Mark Major my co host here. No,

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<v Speaker 1>I wasn't. It was a joke.

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<v Speaker 6>It was a joke, and it goes way piss an

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<v Speaker 6>inside joke anyway, Okay, keep going.

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<v Speaker 5>So he he came and just said you and gave

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<v Speaker 5>me a trashpass letter that said this is a formal

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<v Speaker 5>notice that you can no longer come on our property.

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<v Speaker 1>And oh my god, they're kicking you out.

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<v Speaker 5>Yes, they kicked me out, and they I have never

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<v Speaker 5>had they They do not like me for some reason

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<v Speaker 5>for sure.

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<v Speaker 6>And wait a minute, did this come out of the blue?

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<v Speaker 6>Bro out of the blue?

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<v Speaker 10>Out of the blue?

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<v Speaker 5>I have never had an issue with being talked to

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<v Speaker 5>from anybody at the Lodge or any other casino. That's

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<v Speaker 5>just what it is. I was actually going up there

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<v Speaker 5>expecting to talk to a host to explain some of

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<v Speaker 5>my benefits. But he did said I asked, you know,

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<v Speaker 5>why is this curring? Says you just leaved. Need to

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<v Speaker 5>leave immediately or you will face arrest, which I did.

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<v Speaker 5>I left that night. About a month later, I emailed

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<v Speaker 5>Ben White, the manager, and said, why was I kicked out?

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<v Speaker 5>I mean, I had spent a lot of money to

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<v Speaker 5>get attain this level, and he says, you are an

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<v Speaker 5>advantage player, and I don't know what that means.

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<v Speaker 8>It's me.

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<v Speaker 5>It just seems like the unity word say you're a

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<v Speaker 5>bad person, and I feel like I play a lot

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<v Speaker 5>of video poker where the casino doesn't make a lot

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<v Speaker 5>of money as much money, and they said, well, this

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<v Speaker 5>guy just got a VIP card level. I don't want

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<v Speaker 5>to give him the free buffet there preplay, so they just.

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<v Speaker 1>I wonder if Mark, Mark, are you listening to this?

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<v Speaker 8>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>Mark, okay, So hold on, both Mark and Dimitri. You

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<v Speaker 1>guys go up there. What do you think?

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<v Speaker 3>Well, I don't go up there. I haven't been there

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<v Speaker 3>since they first opened the casinos. But I know what

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<v Speaker 3>an advantage player means, and that is somebody who is

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<v Speaker 3>suspected of using some sort of a system, not cheating,

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<v Speaker 3>and the perfectly legal system to increase their advantage. So,

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<v Speaker 3>for example, card counting would be one of those that

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<v Speaker 3>would be considered an advantage advantage player, so the law.

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<v Speaker 3>But the casinos don't want people.

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<v Speaker 6>Like that, so they can basically say, get the hell out.

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<v Speaker 5>Tom, I've been playing there for ten years. They could

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<v Speaker 5>have said that at any time or told me not

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<v Speaker 5>to do it. What I was playing is a game

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<v Speaker 5>called Ultimate X video poker, and video poker has an

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<v Speaker 5>advantage for the casino. There's no way I can I

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<v Speaker 5>can beat that. I mean you could go up there

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<v Speaker 5>and sit on it and play it and again.

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<v Speaker 6>Okay, so why do you let me just ask you?

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<v Speaker 6>Why do you think they kicked you out?

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<v Speaker 1>Man? Bottom?

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<v Speaker 8>Though?

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<v Speaker 5>In January, I was playing a game called Ultimate X

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<v Speaker 5>where you play twice amount of coin and if you

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<v Speaker 5>get a good hand, you get a multiplier for the

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<v Speaker 5>next one. So I got delta flush, which means on

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<v Speaker 5>the next hand, I get an eight times multiplier on

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<v Speaker 5>ten different rows, and just luckily I got dealt like.

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<v Speaker 9>Four of a kind.

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<v Speaker 5>So I won like seventy five hundred dollars on a

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<v Speaker 5>video poker machine and that's normally unheard of.

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<v Speaker 1>It was a really good hit.

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<v Speaker 5>So I feel like they're holding that against me, saying, ah,

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<v Speaker 5>you won money against us, but it was just pure

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<v Speaker 5>luck in random.

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<v Speaker 1>Mark, Do you think Mark? Does this sound right to you?

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<v Speaker 11>Man?

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<v Speaker 1>Mark? Man like that they would kick him out for winning? Yeah? Sure,

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<v Speaker 1>if he's cheating this, I think he was cheating. How

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<v Speaker 1>much did you win, David? I'll just back off now.

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<v Speaker 5>It was like around eight thousand because it was a

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<v Speaker 5>ten play. But then I looked at what I've won

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<v Speaker 5>for the rest of the year between the two properties.

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<v Speaker 5>They also own the guilt then, and it shows I've

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<v Speaker 5>only lost. I ended up a net winning of like

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<v Speaker 5>six thousand, so I lost three thousand dollars up that

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<v Speaker 5>one big win.

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<v Speaker 1>Mark.

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<v Speaker 6>I don't want you to back off, because Mark does

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<v Speaker 6>probably more gambling than any of us, and I don't

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<v Speaker 6>mean that in a reckless way.

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<v Speaker 1>But what do you think is going on? Mark?

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<v Speaker 7>I think he was playing something else, either blackjack or

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<v Speaker 7>some kind of table game at some point, and he

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<v Speaker 7>was either counting the shuffle, counting the cards, something along that.

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<v Speaker 7>I find it almost impossible that they did this because

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<v Speaker 7>of video poker, literally impossible.

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<v Speaker 5>It was video poker.

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<v Speaker 10>I do not play.

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<v Speaker 5>I don't don't know what you're talking about. On the

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<v Speaker 5>on the other table games, it was video poker, and

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<v Speaker 5>I hauled in.

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<v Speaker 7>I don't know what to say. Man, they have the

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<v Speaker 7>right to you, but I've never heard of anybody taking

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<v Speaker 7>advantage of a video poker machine. Never heard it. It's

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<v Speaker 7>like taking advantage of a slot machine.

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<v Speaker 6>Did they ever give you a reason, an official reason?

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<v Speaker 5>Yes, he said I was an advantage player in an email,

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<v Speaker 5>but I was never spoken to in the ten years.

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<v Speaker 5>And I also play video poker at all the other

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<v Speaker 5>ones like Monarch, Amrastar, Horseshoe, everything next Door. They all

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<v Speaker 5>offer this video poker variant.

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<v Speaker 1>So can you still go to all the other casinos?

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<v Speaker 5>Yes, every other casino in Blackhawk and Central City.

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<v Speaker 7>Look a private invocation. They can kick them out for

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<v Speaker 7>any reason they want, except for certain things like color.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, or you know why, or whatever's covered by the law.

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<v Speaker 5>If I was doing anything, why did they wait for

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<v Speaker 5>the entire year to kick me out the day?

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<v Speaker 1>That's see, this is where this hold on.

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<v Speaker 6>You know, you typify, You typify something that I want

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<v Speaker 6>to go over after the break, And when I say typify,

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<v Speaker 6>it's not unreasonable and I want to I'm.

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<v Speaker 1>Going to talk about this. Hang on.

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<v Speaker 6>I'm Tom Martine. This guy had a good question. We're

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<v Speaker 6>going to address it plus more. Give us a call

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<v Speaker 6>three oh three seven one three talk seven one three

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<v Speaker 1>And I have to.

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<v Speaker 6>Tell you that Frank Rand, the real estate man, is

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<v Speaker 6>price your house. And it's unique on its own. Three

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<v Speaker 6>oh three nine two zero sixteen twenty two. Frank rand There,

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<v Speaker 6>real estate Man dot com. Go with a sure thing

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<v Speaker 6>a cent until you're content. Time for an insurance check

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<v Speaker 6>too much your coverage at dozens of insurance companies find

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<v Speaker 6>out now three all three seven seven to one help.

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<v Speaker 6>You'll think you're his only customer when you choose Frank

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<v Speaker 6>durand the real estate Man dot com to list your

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<v Speaker 6>home with Remax Alliance three all three nine two zero

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<v Speaker 6>sixteen twenty two.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm Tom Martinez. You're troubleshooter seven one three talks seven

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<v Speaker 1>one three eight two five five. So I did some.

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<v Speaker 6>Research store on the break, I talked to my boyfriend,

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<v Speaker 6>and I also did some searching. According to my boyfriend,

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<v Speaker 6>and I tried to get a female voice, but I

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<v Speaker 6>can't so chat GPT is my boyfriend. I used to

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<v Speaker 6>have a girlfriend co pilot, but she saw I should

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<v Speaker 6>put that in another way. She's not very good. And

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<v Speaker 6>then Gemini doesn't have voice at all. Gemini is the

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<v Speaker 6>worst AI there is. Chat GPT has been my number

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<v Speaker 6>one so far. I haven't tried deep search yet. The

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<v Speaker 6>Chinese spy app. I haven't tried that one. So Mark

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<v Speaker 6>was right. They can do anything they want. Basically, they

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<v Speaker 6>just can't break the law. Meaning if you're of a

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<v Speaker 6>certain religion you can't come here, a certain color, you

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<v Speaker 6>can't come here.

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<v Speaker 1>So you know, obviously they don't do that.

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<v Speaker 6>Here's what they say, bro, and I want you to

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<v Speaker 6>I want you to hear this, and you typify every

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<v Speaker 6>consumer practically we've ever talked to about problems.

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<v Speaker 1>And I don't mean that as a put down.

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<v Speaker 6>You're you're right on track because but I'm gonna tell

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<v Speaker 6>you this first, and I'll tell you what you typify

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<v Speaker 6>first and foremost, they can ban you for no reason.

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<v Speaker 6>They can ban you because they don't IQ. Okay, they can.

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<v Speaker 6>They can do anything they want.

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<v Speaker 1>Now.

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<v Speaker 6>An advantage player is someone who can do card counting

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<v Speaker 6>or they suspect will even if they don't do it accurately.

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<v Speaker 6>Hole carding, meaning you spot a hold card that the

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<v Speaker 6>dealer exposed in a inadvertent way, not on purpose.

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<v Speaker 1>Shuffle tracking.

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<v Speaker 6>I have no idea what that means, but you can

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<v Speaker 6>actually eye where the cards go. Bonus hunting that you exploit.

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<v Speaker 6>Casino offers free play or match bonuses to gain an

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<v Speaker 6>edge video poker strategy. If you win too much on

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<v Speaker 6>a video machine and they sense a slight advantage to

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<v Speaker 6>the player and not the house, they can discontinue dice

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<v Speaker 6>control attempting to throw a certain way edge sort identifying

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<v Speaker 6>tiny card in perfections to determine the values. So they

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<v Speaker 6>have a house edge and they don't want anything that

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<v Speaker 6>will chip into it. If a player can consistently beats

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<v Speaker 6>the house, they are no longer allowed back.

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<v Speaker 1>They just are not What rights you have, you have

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<v Speaker 1>no rights.

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<v Speaker 6>Casinos have the right to reserve refuse service for any reason.

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<v Speaker 1>They're private businesses.

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<v Speaker 6>They can ban anyone for any reason except for the race, gender, disability, a.

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<v Speaker 1>Blah blah blah.

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<v Speaker 6>They do not have to prove anything. They don't even

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<v Speaker 6>have to have a reason. Many casinos share player information,

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<v Speaker 6>so you may find you're going to be banned at

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<v Speaker 6>other places, and tribal versus government and public are are

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<v Speaker 6>a private will allow them to do anything they want.

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<v Speaker 6>Tribal is under no one's control and stay owned require

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<v Speaker 6>a formal process. So and you know like in Jersey

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<v Speaker 6>and stuff, basically that's not that's it.

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<v Speaker 1>It's it's one hundred percent.

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<v Speaker 6>Now you ask something that a lot of people do,

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<v Speaker 6>ask well, why didn't they talk to me or why

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<v Speaker 6>didn't I hear this? Or why wasn't it consistent or

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<v Speaker 6>why wasn't it And you're expecting logic and you're expecting

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<v Speaker 6>what's called continuity or consistency and process.

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<v Speaker 1>That is not a legal requirement.

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<v Speaker 5>Okay, I hear you, tom So.

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<v Speaker 6>I mean, I'm just giving you the raw information. Fighting

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<v Speaker 6>this is going to be useless. It really is totally useless.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, what was your question about the W two G form?

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<v Speaker 3>Did they misrepresent something on your tax report?

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<v Speaker 5>So when I in January, when I won that uh

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<v Speaker 5>dig a hit on that video poker machine, they gave

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<v Speaker 5>me a W a W two G. The next day

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<v Speaker 5>when I went home, the name on that W two

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<v Speaker 5>G was for a different person.

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<v Speaker 1>It was a mistake.

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<v Speaker 5>It was a mistake. So I was concerned that my

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<v Speaker 5>personal information, which might had my home address and my

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<v Speaker 5>social security number was was sent out and somebody else

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<v Speaker 5>had received my w twogs, so I had and if

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<v Speaker 5>it was.

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<v Speaker 8>I guess it was.

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<v Speaker 5>I had to contact the Color Division of Gaming to say, hey,

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<v Speaker 5>I want the other person to bring back my w twog.

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<v Speaker 1>I returned.

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<v Speaker 7>We just answered his question. Why they This is why

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<v Speaker 7>they kicked him out. He was being a pain in

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<v Speaker 7>the ass to him.

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<v Speaker 1>He called the gaming I'm going to tell you something.

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<v Speaker 1>I want to I want to tell you something.

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<v Speaker 6>Okay, bringing back your W two or whatever is not

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<v Speaker 6>going to keep you safe. It's already been exposed. So really,

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<v Speaker 6>you know, I know, I know what you're doing.

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<v Speaker 1>Man.

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<v Speaker 6>You're trying to get a pound of flesh. And it's

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<v Speaker 6>not it's just not. I look, I don't want you

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<v Speaker 6>disliking me, but I gotta be honest with you. It's

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<v Speaker 6>not going to work. Okay, You're not going to get

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<v Speaker 6>them to return it. You have no special rights to

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<v Speaker 6>get it returned. It was a mistake and the only

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<v Speaker 6>recourse you have is if there are damages, but you're

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<v Speaker 6>required to mitigate those damages by doing a credit freeze

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<v Speaker 6>or an alert or something like that. Now I know

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<v Speaker 6>that's not what you wanted to hear. But you, I

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<v Speaker 6>promise you you do not have any special rights.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay.

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<v Speaker 5>I kind of considered that a separate issue, but I

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<v Speaker 5>guess the way you guys are saying it, you're saying

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<v Speaker 5>that I was poking the bear and I deserve to

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<v Speaker 5>be No.

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<v Speaker 6>No, I didn't say that. Mark said that, and that

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<v Speaker 6>could be true. I don't care about that.

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<v Speaker 1>Well what that I didn't say you deserve to be

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<v Speaker 1>kicked out.

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<v Speaker 7>I'm saying, when you call the Gaming Commission on a casino,

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<v Speaker 7>your name gets on a list pretty damn quick, dude.

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<v Speaker 5>A data breach of my financial information is.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not arguing with you. I'm just telling you. Listen.

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<v Speaker 6>Listen, listen. A data breach is important. But I'm going

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<v Speaker 6>to explain something to you, whether you like it or not.

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<v Speaker 6>A data breach is only injurious if there is a

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<v Speaker 6>data breach that causes you harm or damages.

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<v Speaker 1>To call the Gaming Commission. Was correct.

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<v Speaker 6>You can call them and say there was a data

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<v Speaker 6>breach and I want them to return my W two. Now,

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<v Speaker 6>they're never going to make somebody return to W two.

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<v Speaker 1>But there it was proper to call if you were

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<v Speaker 1>upset about the data breach. That's very proper to do that.

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<v Speaker 6>But what they did was said, this guy's a pain

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<v Speaker 6>in the ass, and you're trying to make the case

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<v Speaker 6>that if it was reasonable for me to call the

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<v Speaker 6>Gaming Commission, they should not lash out against me.

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<v Speaker 1>But I'm going to tell you something they did.

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<v Speaker 6>I mean, do you understand that we watch too much

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<v Speaker 6>TV where we think we have rights where we don't.

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<v Speaker 1>You could bring a lawsuit against them.

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<v Speaker 8>It makes sense, It makes sense, you know.

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<v Speaker 1>And I don't mean to shoot you down.

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<v Speaker 6>I know you called me for help, but my help

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<v Speaker 6>is telling you the truth. We got more coming up

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<v Speaker 6>on The Troubleshooter Show three O three seven one three

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<v Speaker 6>Talks seven one three eight two five five. Compass Insurance

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<v Speaker 6>will do an insurance check up on you to make

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<v Speaker 6>or maybe you have a great deal, and they'll tell

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<v Speaker 6>you the truth. Three oh three nine ninety six nine thousand.

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<v Speaker 6>paying too much your coverage at dozens of insurance companies

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<v Speaker 6>find out now three oh three seven seven to one help.

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<v Speaker 6>You'll think you're his only customer when you choose Frank

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<v Speaker 6>durand the real estate Man dot com to list your

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<v Speaker 6>home with Remax Alliance three oh three nine two zero

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<v Speaker 6>sixteen twenty two. Hey Tom Martine here three three seven

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<v Speaker 6>one three talk seven one three two five. Jordan canos

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<v Speaker 6>with us. Hey, Jordan, I want to ask you something.

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<v Speaker 6>The event is coming up tomorrow.

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<v Speaker 1>Is that right?

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<v Speaker 9>Actually, yeah, we are. We pushed it out a couple

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<v Speaker 9>of weeks because we had such a high demand that

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<v Speaker 9>we wanted to get the right hotel set up tom

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<v Speaker 9>So we're gonna be pushing it out a couple more

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<v Speaker 9>weeks and we're gonna have Oh.

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<v Speaker 1>So it's not wait wait wait, let me get this straight.

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<v Speaker 1>So it's not tomorrow.

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<v Speaker 9>It's not tomorrow. No, So thank you for asking. Yes,

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<v Speaker 9>you know it's gonna be. We're gonna have it about

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<v Speaker 9>two weeks from tomorrow and we'll get the exact dates

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<v Speaker 9>and everything set up. But still my Moneymway dot com.

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<v Speaker 9>Anybody can go to the website see the updated calendar

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<v Speaker 9>for the seminar. Or if they just want to meet

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<v Speaker 9>on a one on one consultation, that's absolutely complimentary. They

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<v Speaker 9>can do that as well.

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<v Speaker 1>Bro, what's the new date right now.

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<v Speaker 9>We're looking at We're waiting for the whit for the

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<v Speaker 9>hotel Thoms.

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<v Speaker 6>Go with a sure thing Denver's Best roofer Excel Roofing

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<v Speaker 6>dot com.

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<v Speaker 1>You don't pay a cent until you're content.

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<v Speaker 6>Time for an insurance check up free no obligation comparison

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<v Speaker 6>call Compass Insurance paying too much your coverage at dozens

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<v Speaker 6>of insurance companies find out now three oh three seven

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<v Speaker 6>seven to one help. You'll think you're his only customer

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<v Speaker 6>when you choose Frank durand the real estate Man dot

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<v Speaker 6>com to list your home with Remax Alliance three oh

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<v Speaker 6>three nine two zero sixteen twenty two.

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<v Speaker 1>Rip new needed that who you don't have run anouss

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<v Speaker 1>as we can. Shooter's gonna help.

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<v Speaker 4>Come six is the Troubleshooter Show. No Tom Martino, Hi Tom.

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<v Speaker 1>Martina here, Welcome to the show. I'm here to help

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<v Speaker 1>you solve problems. De'st question taking place?

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<v Speaker 6>So is Major Mark Major sitting in the house and

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<v Speaker 6>where sus is she lazing today or what?

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<v Speaker 1>Nope, she's in the other room working. Okay, and then

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<v Speaker 1>we have I think Bo in the studio.

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<v Speaker 2>Bo.

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<v Speaker 12>Hello there, I'm ready to help.

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<v Speaker 1>Hey, want a.

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<v Speaker 6>Case, got deputy, Got deputy d over here, d thank

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<v Speaker 6>you for being here.

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<v Speaker 1>Hey, you're welcome. Thanks for all right. Any of you

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<v Speaker 1>guys have cases you want to follow up quickly?

644
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<v Speaker 6>You have some resolved. I don't know if you brought

645
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<v Speaker 6>them up when Mark did the show or not, did you?

646
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<v Speaker 1>I you know, I offered to, but we were so busy. Okay,

647
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<v Speaker 1>so let's talk about some and now I'm going right

648
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<v Speaker 1>to the phones, but real quick. Pick a case, because

649
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<v Speaker 1>you had some really good ones. Yeah, you know you

650
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<v Speaker 1>may recalled it. A few months ago.

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<v Speaker 3>Lady by the name of Roberta called this because she

652
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<v Speaker 3>lost seventy eight hundred dollars oh Wills Fargo, Yeah, habit.

653
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<v Speaker 1>Card to us and they said it was not fraud. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>They actually denied her claim, and then she asked them

655
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<v Speaker 3>to reinvestigate. She appealed to the nial. They they supposedly reinvestigate,

656
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<v Speaker 3>edited and denied it again. So she was out seventy

657
00:35:02.920 --> 00:35:05.960
<v Speaker 3>eight hundred bucks, but we developed a really great resource.

658
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<v Speaker 1>Okay, so she's still out the money, though, Well, listen

659
00:35:08.719 --> 00:35:10.400
<v Speaker 1>to this and get ready to be happy.

660
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<v Speaker 3>I just got an email from her over the weekend

661
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<v Speaker 3>saying that the resource that told us that he's going

662
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<v Speaker 3>to help with it, this is their press affairs guy.

663
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<v Speaker 3>He asked the investigating department to re reinvestigate this matter.

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<v Speaker 3>They immediately found that Roberta was in the right and

665
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<v Speaker 3>they credited her account a little.

666
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<v Speaker 1>Almighty god dollars.

667
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<v Speaker 3>Oh my goodness, no craft, Yeah, wells Fargo of all places.

668
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<v Speaker 6>So we Mark, isn't that great news? My gosh? Man thought? Okay,

669
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<v Speaker 6>you know, I just not my dinger handy, but thanks both.

670
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<v Speaker 6>Since my new configuration, I can't and Mark makes fun

671
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<v Speaker 6>of me. Everything's perfect on the technology side of except

672
00:36:00.320 --> 00:36:02.800
<v Speaker 6>I can't get my sound effects to go through this

673
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<v Speaker 6>board for some reason.

674
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<v Speaker 1>And they're not being picked to it.

675
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<v Speaker 6>Thank you, bro. I give the dinger to d We

676
00:36:12.199 --> 00:36:14.320
<v Speaker 6>should call him Deputy Dingery, as so many of them.

677
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<v Speaker 6>But anyway, whoa bo do you have?

678
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<v Speaker 1>Any I have.

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00:36:20.280 --> 00:36:24.239
<v Speaker 12>This one I'm working on from last Friday.

680
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<v Speaker 1>Her name is Erene.

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<v Speaker 13>She called in about her furnace and this lady has

682
00:36:32.119 --> 00:36:36.039
<v Speaker 13>not had heat since November shed.

683
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<v Speaker 1>Oh that's right, true story. Did you go out there?

684
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<v Speaker 12>Yes, I went out there Saturday afternoon.

685
00:36:42.440 --> 00:36:46.840
<v Speaker 13>She had five companies come out there, and basically every

686
00:36:46.840 --> 00:36:50.199
<v Speaker 13>one of them said, you cannot get parts for the furnace.

687
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<v Speaker 13>And one of the companies.

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<v Speaker 1>Is that true?

689
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<v Speaker 12>No, it's not true at all. It's it's an eighty

690
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<v Speaker 12>percent furnace. It's a train.

691
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<v Speaker 13>I looked it up over the week and I can

692
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<v Speaker 13>get practically every part.

693
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<v Speaker 1>For the furnace.

694
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<v Speaker 12>But the problem is, mom, Yes.

695
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<v Speaker 1>I just want to ask a quick question.

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<v Speaker 6>Did any of those companies that told her they can't

697
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<v Speaker 6>get parts and she has to replace it? Were they

698
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<v Speaker 6>on my referral list?

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<v Speaker 13>She only gave me three companies and they were not,

700
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<v Speaker 13>But there are two others she's trying to send me

701
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<v Speaker 13>paperwork on.

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<v Speaker 1>All.

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<v Speaker 12>Right, but this is what I want to say.

704
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<v Speaker 1>One of the people.

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00:37:29.679 --> 00:37:33.960
<v Speaker 13>Went out there and pulled all the wires out. They

706
00:37:34.320 --> 00:37:36.800
<v Speaker 13>pulled everything out, and it looks like a bull of

707
00:37:36.920 --> 00:37:38.280
<v Speaker 13>spaghetti inside the furnace.

708
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<v Speaker 12>So I just couldn't track all of the You.

709
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<v Speaker 1>Know why they did that, right, Sure they did.

710
00:37:42.320 --> 00:37:45.719
<v Speaker 13>They wanted to try to disable it, so it couldn't well.

711
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<v Speaker 1>It called the it's called the savior complex.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, they want to put you in a situation where

713
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<v Speaker 6>you need them to be their savior.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm looking up the call. What what is her?

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<v Speaker 8>Uh?

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<v Speaker 12>Her her name is under Erene.

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<v Speaker 13>She called on one twenty four, I think it was

718
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<v Speaker 13>in the eleven o'clock care and she's had no heat

719
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<v Speaker 13>for over six months.

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<v Speaker 1>So that furnace. Can the wiring be repearline? I have down?

721
00:38:17.039 --> 00:38:19.440
<v Speaker 1>But okay, so it's not earline, it's rowhen.

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<v Speaker 12>It's e r L E E n earleine.

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<v Speaker 1>That's what I got it. Okay, thank you, So I

724
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<v Speaker 1>correct that.

725
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<v Speaker 12>So what I'm trying to do.

726
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<v Speaker 13>I got a list of all the parts that we

727
00:38:30.000 --> 00:38:33.599
<v Speaker 13>could possibly I could possibly put in, but the wiring

728
00:38:33.679 --> 00:38:37.440
<v Speaker 13>everyone screwed up. The wiring is a little beyond my capability.

729
00:38:37.519 --> 00:38:40.039
<v Speaker 13>So I have a friend that's going to come out.

730
00:38:40.079 --> 00:38:42.039
<v Speaker 13>I'm going to go back over there this week and

731
00:38:42.079 --> 00:38:44.400
<v Speaker 13>try to trace it out, and I'm going to try

732
00:38:45.079 --> 00:38:48.519
<v Speaker 13>to get her furnace going because she's only she only

733
00:38:48.519 --> 00:38:51.599
<v Speaker 13>gets three hundred dollars a month social Security. She's got

734
00:38:51.599 --> 00:38:54.519
<v Speaker 13>her daughter and two grandkids living with her, and you

735
00:38:54.639 --> 00:38:56.719
<v Speaker 13>huddle in the they huddle in the bedroom, all of

736
00:38:56.719 --> 00:38:59.280
<v Speaker 13>them together at night to stay warm. They have some

737
00:38:59.360 --> 00:39:03.079
<v Speaker 13>electric going on. But I think I can get the

738
00:39:03.079 --> 00:39:06.920
<v Speaker 13>furnace going. But for those people to say it needed

739
00:39:06.960 --> 00:39:10.840
<v Speaker 13>to be replaced because the parts are not available, it's

740
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<v Speaker 13>not true. I mean, the furnace is only fifteen years

741
00:39:13.480 --> 00:39:15.119
<v Speaker 13>old and I don't think there's anything wrong with it

742
00:39:15.159 --> 00:39:17.360
<v Speaker 13>other than one of the contractors that came out they

743
00:39:17.480 --> 00:39:20.719
<v Speaker 13>try to sell her a new one that basically disabled it.

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<v Speaker 6>Okay, I want to know something. How old is it?

745
00:39:27.119 --> 00:39:29.320
<v Speaker 12>It's about fifteen sixteen years old?

746
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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, but that to be fair, sometimes I know people

747
00:39:35.559 --> 00:39:38.960
<v Speaker 6>don't have the money, but to be fair, sometimes it

748
00:39:39.119 --> 00:39:42.480
<v Speaker 6>isn't worth fixing unless they're minor parts, right.

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<v Speaker 12>Bo Yes, I mean you're rid in fairness. It's old

750
00:39:47.599 --> 00:39:48.599
<v Speaker 12>that should be replaced.

751
00:39:48.599 --> 00:39:51.079
<v Speaker 13>But she doesn't have to nine thousand dollars that she

752
00:39:51.199 --> 00:39:53.559
<v Speaker 13>got quotes from seventy five to nine thousand dollars.

753
00:39:53.599 --> 00:39:55.519
<v Speaker 12>So that's why I want to try to help her

754
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<v Speaker 12>and get her going.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I get it. I just can't. I thank you, man.

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<v Speaker 1>That's great. I have one more, so let go. Okay, Well,

757
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<v Speaker 1>let me take a call first and we'll go back

758
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<v Speaker 1>to you. I really appreciate it. Bo Crystal. What's going on?

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, I wanted to elicit some help on a toe,

760
00:40:17.519 --> 00:40:20.719
<v Speaker 2>a car towing scam that happened to my family. We

761
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<v Speaker 2>had a vehicle that unfortunately the registration expired, but it

762
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<v Speaker 2>was a family heirloom that we were trying to restore,

763
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<v Speaker 2>and it was in my son's apartment complex and it

764
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<v Speaker 2>was not ready hold on.

765
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<v Speaker 6>A family heirloom and hold on a family heirloom was

766
00:40:39.159 --> 00:40:41.880
<v Speaker 6>was in a parking lot at an apartment outside.

767
00:40:42.639 --> 00:40:46.360
<v Speaker 2>I realized that, yeah.

768
00:40:44.440 --> 00:40:47.079
<v Speaker 6>And oh no, no, I'm just asking, I'm just asking

769
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<v Speaker 6>what kind of an heirloom?

770
00:40:48.280 --> 00:40:51.280
<v Speaker 1>Is it an antique? What is it?

771
00:40:51.440 --> 00:40:51.559
<v Speaker 8>Well?

772
00:40:51.639 --> 00:40:53.599
<v Speaker 1>Well, what is it? Though? She called? Go ahead?

773
00:40:54.440 --> 00:40:58.880
<v Speaker 2>Eighty five dodgs Ram. That was my husband's grandfathers and

774
00:40:58.920 --> 00:41:01.199
<v Speaker 2>it was passed down to grandson.

775
00:41:02.519 --> 00:41:11.320
<v Speaker 6>And so it was a nineteen eighty five Dodge Ram, Yes, okay,

776
00:41:11.599 --> 00:41:17.119
<v Speaker 6>and it was toad it was it had an expired registration.

777
00:41:17.280 --> 00:41:23.920
<v Speaker 1>Is that right? That's correct, which I know is fired registration. Yes, well,

778
00:41:23.920 --> 00:41:24.559
<v Speaker 1>I understand that.

779
00:41:24.559 --> 00:41:27.239
<v Speaker 6>I mean, and by the way, by the way, that

780
00:41:27.239 --> 00:41:30.199
<v Speaker 6>that was probably a legal toe, But why do you

781
00:41:30.280 --> 00:41:31.559
<v Speaker 6>call it a scam?

782
00:41:32.159 --> 00:41:36.119
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, let me explain. So it was not running and

783
00:41:36.159 --> 00:41:41.079
<v Speaker 2>it was towed from the apartment complex to a private

784
00:41:41.239 --> 00:41:46.960
<v Speaker 2>parking lot, which then a different toe company towed it

785
00:41:47.519 --> 00:41:48.519
<v Speaker 2>and impounded it.

786
00:41:48.599 --> 00:41:51.199
<v Speaker 1>What wait a minute, why did they take it to

787
00:41:51.280 --> 00:41:52.719
<v Speaker 1>a private lot?

788
00:41:52.880 --> 00:41:56.400
<v Speaker 2>Exactly? That's why I think it's Well, no, I'm asking

789
00:41:56.519 --> 00:41:56.920
<v Speaker 2>did they?

790
00:41:56.960 --> 00:41:58.800
<v Speaker 1>Did they? And how do you know that happen?

791
00:42:00.119 --> 00:42:03.280
<v Speaker 2>So we were the last folks to register that vehicle.

792
00:42:03.679 --> 00:42:07.039
<v Speaker 2>So we got a certified letter from a towing company

793
00:42:08.559 --> 00:42:11.159
<v Speaker 2>two weeks after the fact that said our vehicle was

794
00:42:11.199 --> 00:42:13.920
<v Speaker 2>impounded and we owed two thousand dollars.

795
00:42:14.239 --> 00:42:17.440
<v Speaker 7>Well, they had to give you twenty couple things real quick.

796
00:42:17.480 --> 00:42:20.119
<v Speaker 7>They had to give you a twenty four hour notice.

797
00:42:20.119 --> 00:42:21.599
<v Speaker 7>But all they have to do is put it on

798
00:42:21.679 --> 00:42:24.400
<v Speaker 7>the car. Just because of what you just said, you

799
00:42:24.440 --> 00:42:27.559
<v Speaker 7>didn't realize it for two weeks. I would assume they

800
00:42:27.599 --> 00:42:30.840
<v Speaker 7>did that. You guys didn't see it. They cannot toe

801
00:42:30.880 --> 00:42:35.840
<v Speaker 7>it for just having expired plates, but they can toe

802
00:42:35.880 --> 00:42:38.800
<v Speaker 7>it for a vehicle that doesn't run in their parking lot.

803
00:42:39.880 --> 00:42:43.320
<v Speaker 2>So the apartment complex did not call the toe.

804
00:42:43.239 --> 00:42:47.559
<v Speaker 6>Company if they don't have to, if they have an

805
00:42:47.559 --> 00:42:51.480
<v Speaker 6>existing relationship, they don't have to. A toe company doesn't

806
00:42:51.519 --> 00:42:54.480
<v Speaker 6>go on to private property and tow something just because

807
00:42:54.519 --> 00:42:58.159
<v Speaker 6>they want to. Did the apartment complex have a relationship

808
00:42:58.159 --> 00:43:03.280
<v Speaker 6>with the toe company? No, So it was a random

809
00:43:03.360 --> 00:43:06.719
<v Speaker 6>toe company driving past an apartment complex and said, we're

810
00:43:06.719 --> 00:43:08.199
<v Speaker 6>going to go in and we're going to toe cars

811
00:43:08.239 --> 00:43:08.840
<v Speaker 6>for the hell of it.

812
00:43:09.239 --> 00:43:10.719
<v Speaker 1>What's the name of the complex?

813
00:43:11.119 --> 00:43:11.239
<v Speaker 2>No?

814
00:43:11.239 --> 00:43:13.639
<v Speaker 6>No, wait, wait, Mark, wait, Crystal, I need to know

815
00:43:13.719 --> 00:43:15.599
<v Speaker 6>if that's the case, I think you have a good case.

816
00:43:15.800 --> 00:43:16.440
<v Speaker 1>So they were.

817
00:43:16.360 --> 00:43:21.519
<v Speaker 6>Driving by, they had no signage whatsoever. This particular company

818
00:43:21.639 --> 00:43:23.800
<v Speaker 6>simply decided to patrol that lot.

819
00:43:24.880 --> 00:43:25.840
<v Speaker 1>So we've tried to do.

820
00:43:25.760 --> 00:43:30.000
<v Speaker 2>Some investigation ourselves. So what we have determined was that

821
00:43:30.039 --> 00:43:35.719
<v Speaker 2>there was a couple in a different apartment that needed

822
00:43:35.760 --> 00:43:39.079
<v Speaker 2>their car repaired, so they called a tow company to

823
00:43:39.159 --> 00:43:42.280
<v Speaker 2>repair to pick up their car to be repaired. When

824
00:43:42.280 --> 00:43:45.960
<v Speaker 2>that toe company was there, they said, hey, we see

825
00:43:46.000 --> 00:43:50.719
<v Speaker 2>this older vehicle. Do you know if it's abandoned? And

826
00:43:50.760 --> 00:43:54.480
<v Speaker 2>the couple said no, they didn't know. The next day

827
00:43:55.360 --> 00:44:00.320
<v Speaker 2>our car was missing, and my son filed up police

828
00:44:00.320 --> 00:44:02.079
<v Speaker 2>report and we.

829
00:44:02.000 --> 00:44:03.639
<v Speaker 1>Later okay, is it possible.

830
00:44:04.360 --> 00:44:10.239
<v Speaker 6>Is it possible that the toe company, after finding out

831
00:44:10.400 --> 00:44:12.760
<v Speaker 6>there was a car there, went to the management company

832
00:44:13.159 --> 00:44:15.320
<v Speaker 6>and asked did they want it toad.

833
00:44:16.400 --> 00:44:19.880
<v Speaker 2>No, because we talked to the manager of the apartment.

834
00:44:20.840 --> 00:44:25.920
<v Speaker 6>If the management complex, if the management complex did not

835
00:44:26.079 --> 00:44:30.679
<v Speaker 6>want it, toad and there was no signage and you

836
00:44:30.760 --> 00:44:33.880
<v Speaker 6>didn't get twenty four hours, notice that first toe company

837
00:44:33.920 --> 00:44:34.159
<v Speaker 6>is going.

838
00:44:34.159 --> 00:44:36.760
<v Speaker 1>To owe you every dime. What's the name of the company,

839
00:44:36.800 --> 00:44:37.280
<v Speaker 1>every dime?

840
00:44:39.599 --> 00:44:45.679
<v Speaker 2>The name of the complex is I should notice Bear Creek?

841
00:44:50.320 --> 00:44:55.119
<v Speaker 1>Okay, yeah, okay, so listen address, listen to information. I

842
00:44:55.119 --> 00:44:58.239
<v Speaker 1>don't need that. The first toe company, what was the name?

843
00:44:58.559 --> 00:44:59.360
<v Speaker 1>Is it in Bolder?

844
00:45:00.800 --> 00:45:07.559
<v Speaker 2>No, it's in Lakewood. And the only reason we determined

845
00:45:07.880 --> 00:45:11.079
<v Speaker 2>all of this was because we got some ring video

846
00:45:11.159 --> 00:45:15.440
<v Speaker 2>footage of the tow truck that there was no yeah,

847
00:45:15.480 --> 00:45:18.320
<v Speaker 2>okay name. There was no name on a tow truck,

848
00:45:18.360 --> 00:45:19.679
<v Speaker 2>and we could not get the license.

849
00:45:19.719 --> 00:45:22.239
<v Speaker 6>So when your son reported it, they didn't know where

850
00:45:22.239 --> 00:45:25.599
<v Speaker 6>the truck was this company. I don't understand why this

851
00:45:25.679 --> 00:45:28.800
<v Speaker 6>company towed it to a private lot if they weren't going.

852
00:45:28.800 --> 00:45:29.400
<v Speaker 1>To get paid.

853
00:45:30.519 --> 00:45:32.280
<v Speaker 2>So that's why I think that they're.

854
00:45:32.440 --> 00:45:33.920
<v Speaker 1>Wait, wait, wait, just run quick.

855
00:45:34.199 --> 00:45:37.920
<v Speaker 6>Why would why would a company give away a toe

856
00:45:38.039 --> 00:45:40.360
<v Speaker 6>to another company in another private lot?

857
00:45:42.039 --> 00:45:47.000
<v Speaker 2>So I think that the where it ended up being

858
00:45:47.079 --> 00:45:51.880
<v Speaker 2>toe to that company's apt I think they're in collusion

859
00:45:52.199 --> 00:45:54.280
<v Speaker 2>with other toe companies.

860
00:45:55.480 --> 00:45:58.599
<v Speaker 6>So do you think they say to people? So they

861
00:45:58.719 --> 00:46:02.800
<v Speaker 6>say to people, find vehicles and bring them to our lot,

862
00:46:03.559 --> 00:46:06.320
<v Speaker 6>and we will have them towed to impound, and we

863
00:46:06.400 --> 00:46:07.880
<v Speaker 6>will then split the money with you.

864
00:46:08.719 --> 00:46:09.599
<v Speaker 2>That's what I think.

865
00:46:10.800 --> 00:46:15.320
<v Speaker 6>Okay, hold on, Crystal, Why wouldn't those other companies simply

866
00:46:15.679 --> 00:46:20.000
<v Speaker 6>find abandoned vehicles and go directly to impound and make

867
00:46:20.039 --> 00:46:22.519
<v Speaker 6>the money without splitting it with this other company.

868
00:46:23.920 --> 00:46:28.960
<v Speaker 2>What I think is the abandoned vehicles that perhaps the

869
00:46:29.000 --> 00:46:31.920
<v Speaker 2>people that own them would not follow up on it

870
00:46:33.079 --> 00:46:36.760
<v Speaker 2>so that they will then auction the vehicles off or

871
00:46:36.880 --> 00:46:37.440
<v Speaker 2>part the matter.

872
00:46:37.519 --> 00:46:40.360
<v Speaker 6>Well, I'm still asking why couldn't a tow company do

873
00:46:40.440 --> 00:46:43.159
<v Speaker 6>that directly? Why would they have to abandon it go

874
00:46:43.280 --> 00:46:45.800
<v Speaker 6>through an extra step of putting it in a vacant lot.

875
00:46:46.599 --> 00:46:48.639
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I don't know. It's just a whole weird situation,

876
00:46:48.840 --> 00:46:49.840
<v Speaker 2>like why was the.

877
00:46:50.000 --> 00:46:53.519
<v Speaker 6>Well, it doesn't sound it doesn't sound efficient. It doesn't

878
00:46:53.559 --> 00:46:57.119
<v Speaker 6>sound efficient to me. But I'm not saying it's impossible

879
00:46:58.480 --> 00:47:01.559
<v Speaker 6>no matter what that matter or what and how do

880
00:47:01.639 --> 00:47:03.360
<v Speaker 6>you know there are others this happens too.

881
00:47:04.159 --> 00:47:04.719
<v Speaker 1>With that lote.

882
00:47:07.280 --> 00:47:13.480
<v Speaker 2>I looked onlines and saw reviews for the company where

883
00:47:13.519 --> 00:47:19.840
<v Speaker 2>the toe the vehicle ended up was app towing and.

884
00:47:18.840 --> 00:47:21.400
<v Speaker 6>And did they did other people say my car was

885
00:47:21.440 --> 00:47:23.800
<v Speaker 6>towed to this lot and then towed out of it.

886
00:47:24.920 --> 00:47:26.800
<v Speaker 2>No, not specific to that.

887
00:47:27.599 --> 00:47:30.719
<v Speaker 6>Okay, all right, So so you're just surmising this is

888
00:47:30.719 --> 00:47:31.320
<v Speaker 6>what happens.

889
00:47:31.840 --> 00:47:34.960
<v Speaker 1>I don't think any scammer, none of the listen. I don't.

890
00:47:35.039 --> 00:47:36.239
<v Speaker 1>I don't think that happened.

891
00:47:36.599 --> 00:47:40.159
<v Speaker 6>I don't think there's scam towing multiple cars to this

892
00:47:40.239 --> 00:47:43.280
<v Speaker 6>lot in order to rack up fees and split money

893
00:47:43.280 --> 00:47:45.960
<v Speaker 6>with someone when they can go direct. There might be

894
00:47:46.119 --> 00:47:49.039
<v Speaker 6>a collusion in this case between the toe toe companies.

895
00:47:49.079 --> 00:47:52.960
<v Speaker 6>Honest to God, there might be because that that toe company,

896
00:47:53.159 --> 00:47:55.519
<v Speaker 6>that toe company may have said, look, I don't have

897
00:47:55.599 --> 00:47:58.440
<v Speaker 6>authorization to take this toe, but if I put it

898
00:47:58.480 --> 00:48:00.760
<v Speaker 6>over in your lot, will you send the notice and

899
00:48:00.800 --> 00:48:01.719
<v Speaker 6>all the other stuff.

900
00:48:02.000 --> 00:48:03.559
<v Speaker 1>It could be, It really could be.

901
00:48:03.599 --> 00:48:05.480
<v Speaker 6>I don't think it's a massive scan, but I think

902
00:48:05.760 --> 00:48:07.360
<v Speaker 6>that maybe you stumbled onto something.

903
00:48:07.639 --> 00:48:08.400
<v Speaker 4>But I'm going to go.

904
00:48:08.400 --> 00:48:11.119
<v Speaker 6>Back to one thing after Deputy d gives us two

905
00:48:11.159 --> 00:48:13.559
<v Speaker 6>cents because he's been wanting to. But there's one thing

906
00:48:13.599 --> 00:48:15.239
<v Speaker 6>that's obvious that you should do.

907
00:48:15.559 --> 00:48:17.119
<v Speaker 1>Deputy d What do you have to say that you

908
00:48:17.199 --> 00:48:18.159
<v Speaker 1>brought you were going to bring on?

909
00:48:18.239 --> 00:48:21.480
<v Speaker 3>Well, I think Crystal mentioned two very suspicious things. One

910
00:48:21.559 --> 00:48:26.199
<v Speaker 3>is she has ring video of an unmarked toe company.

911
00:48:26.239 --> 00:48:28.840
<v Speaker 3>This is the first toe company, right, Crystal, did you

912
00:48:28.920 --> 00:48:30.280
<v Speaker 3>say their truck is unmarked?

913
00:48:31.280 --> 00:48:33.119
<v Speaker 2>Correct from what we could tell.

914
00:48:33.360 --> 00:48:35.559
<v Speaker 1>So you don't know the name. You don't really know

915
00:48:35.639 --> 00:48:37.280
<v Speaker 1>the name of the company that told you.

916
00:48:37.519 --> 00:48:40.840
<v Speaker 3>Just because she contacted one of her neighbors who originally

917
00:48:40.880 --> 00:48:42.039
<v Speaker 3>called the unmarked.

918
00:48:41.679 --> 00:48:43.360
<v Speaker 1>Okay, so you know the name of the company. No,

919
00:48:43.480 --> 00:48:44.280
<v Speaker 1>she doesn't, don't.

920
00:48:44.480 --> 00:48:47.920
<v Speaker 6>The original company came to tow that other car to repair.

921
00:48:48.519 --> 00:48:52.480
<v Speaker 6>The next day her car was told. She's surmising, well,

922
00:48:52.880 --> 00:48:53.960
<v Speaker 6>was it the same truck?

923
00:48:54.239 --> 00:48:55.400
<v Speaker 1>Did she ask her neighbor?

924
00:48:55.719 --> 00:48:57.880
<v Speaker 6>Was this the same truck that came and got my car?

925
00:48:58.000 --> 00:49:00.960
<v Speaker 6>I mean, we can't just automatically assume that the next

926
00:49:01.079 --> 00:49:03.000
<v Speaker 6>day her car was towed by the same company.

927
00:49:03.199 --> 00:49:05.960
<v Speaker 3>So the second thing that she said is her car

928
00:49:06.159 --> 00:49:09.880
<v Speaker 3>was towed by the unmarked truck to a parking lot

929
00:49:10.119 --> 00:49:11.480
<v Speaker 3>of an unrelated business.

930
00:49:11.800 --> 00:49:14.840
<v Speaker 1>Right, those two are very suspicious. Well, of course they aren't.

931
00:49:15.039 --> 00:49:18.639
<v Speaker 6>I didn't nobody I think if it happened like she said,

932
00:49:19.039 --> 00:49:20.880
<v Speaker 6>if that company towed it to another lot. It was

933
00:49:20.920 --> 00:49:23.639
<v Speaker 6>so that other lot would do all the notices because

934
00:49:23.679 --> 00:49:25.880
<v Speaker 6>I don't think they were authorized to take it from

935
00:49:25.960 --> 00:49:27.400
<v Speaker 6>the private apartment complex.

936
00:49:27.639 --> 00:49:30.320
<v Speaker 1>So they got around it by simply saying it was

937
00:49:30.400 --> 00:49:32.440
<v Speaker 1>in this lot, not that lot.

938
00:49:32.679 --> 00:49:34.920
<v Speaker 6>So they were hoping they could take it out of

939
00:49:35.000 --> 00:49:38.400
<v Speaker 6>the apartment complex lot without anyone knowing. And then simply

940
00:49:38.440 --> 00:49:41.159
<v Speaker 6>an abandoned vehicle shows up on a private lot and

941
00:49:41.280 --> 00:49:44.159
<v Speaker 6>the private lot tows it legally, but it was not

942
00:49:44.360 --> 00:49:46.719
<v Speaker 6>legally because it was brought there by another toe company.

943
00:49:46.960 --> 00:49:49.599
<v Speaker 1>What I need to know is this, Do you know

944
00:49:49.880 --> 00:49:52.599
<v Speaker 1>the name of the company that towed it to that lot?

945
00:49:54.280 --> 00:49:57.559
<v Speaker 2>I do not, But the least agent, the manager at

946
00:49:57.599 --> 00:50:02.480
<v Speaker 2>the apartment complex, knows the couple who had their vehicle

947
00:50:04.000 --> 00:50:05.679
<v Speaker 2>towed by this company, and.

948
00:50:05.719 --> 00:50:07.440
<v Speaker 1>Then that your vehicle.

949
00:50:08.639 --> 00:50:10.840
<v Speaker 6>Yeah but no, okay, let me explain this to So

950
00:50:11.000 --> 00:50:13.360
<v Speaker 6>you have the apartment complex manager who says, I know

951
00:50:13.440 --> 00:50:16.559
<v Speaker 6>a couple who called a tow company, who came, who said,

952
00:50:17.079 --> 00:50:17.840
<v Speaker 6>what is that car?

953
00:50:18.280 --> 00:50:20.159
<v Speaker 1>And then the next day it was missing. Do you

954
00:50:20.239 --> 00:50:23.000
<v Speaker 1>understand you don't have any evidence that that car? I

955
00:50:23.079 --> 00:50:26.800
<v Speaker 1>mean you do you have? You said, there's ring video

956
00:50:27.000 --> 00:50:29.920
<v Speaker 1>of your son's truck. Being towed. Is that right?

957
00:50:30.159 --> 00:50:31.239
<v Speaker 2>Yes, that's correct.

958
00:50:32.599 --> 00:50:35.280
<v Speaker 1>Okay, that truck and the toe companies.

959
00:50:35.760 --> 00:50:38.920
<v Speaker 6>Is it the same truck as the couple that had

960
00:50:38.960 --> 00:50:42.519
<v Speaker 6>their truck had their car toad to repair?

961
00:50:42.719 --> 00:50:45.719
<v Speaker 1>Is it the same truck? I do not know because

962
00:50:45.920 --> 00:50:48.000
<v Speaker 1>the well, you got to do your homework. If it's

963
00:50:48.000 --> 00:50:50.679
<v Speaker 1>the same truck. If it's the same truck, you can

964
00:50:50.760 --> 00:50:51.559
<v Speaker 1>maybe get the name.

965
00:50:52.679 --> 00:50:55.119
<v Speaker 2>I tried, but the manager at the complex does not

966
00:50:55.159 --> 00:50:57.760
<v Speaker 2>feel comfortable giving us a couple's information.

967
00:50:58.599 --> 00:51:00.760
<v Speaker 1>Well, then you're at a dead end. You're at a

968
00:51:00.800 --> 00:51:04.400
<v Speaker 1>total dead end. What you can what you can do?

969
00:51:05.159 --> 00:51:10.880
<v Speaker 6>Well, if somebody just tells me this happened and there's

970
00:51:10.960 --> 00:51:15.119
<v Speaker 6>absolutely no evidence and you can't get the evidence, we

971
00:51:15.239 --> 00:51:16.840
<v Speaker 6>can't assume it that's what happened.

972
00:51:16.880 --> 00:51:19.519
<v Speaker 7>I mean, well, if I knew the damn complex's name,

973
00:51:19.559 --> 00:51:20.360
<v Speaker 7>I'd make a call.

974
00:51:20.519 --> 00:51:22.800
<v Speaker 1>But there is not a Bear Creek in Lakewood, so

975
00:51:22.880 --> 00:51:24.119
<v Speaker 1>I'd have to know something.

976
00:51:25.320 --> 00:51:27.480
<v Speaker 6>Sure, we will make a call, but there's something else

977
00:51:27.519 --> 00:51:31.400
<v Speaker 6>I want to ask another obvious question. The toe company

978
00:51:31.519 --> 00:51:34.519
<v Speaker 6>that did take it to impound that now wants two

979
00:51:34.639 --> 00:51:35.480
<v Speaker 6>thousand dollars.

980
00:51:36.079 --> 00:51:39.239
<v Speaker 1>Do they have evidence that there was notice put on there?

981
00:51:39.440 --> 00:51:41.840
<v Speaker 6>And again, you wouldn't have known about the notice because

982
00:51:41.840 --> 00:51:43.800
<v Speaker 6>it wasn't in your normal parking space.

983
00:51:44.199 --> 00:51:46.800
<v Speaker 1>But do they have evidence that they at least tried

984
00:51:46.880 --> 00:51:47.719
<v Speaker 1>to do it the right way?

985
00:51:49.639 --> 00:51:56.119
<v Speaker 14>We did call the lady at the toe company, and yes,

986
00:51:57.199 --> 00:52:01.000
<v Speaker 14>she asked if we were going to pay to get the.

987
00:52:01.079 --> 00:52:04.119
<v Speaker 2>Truck out and if not, she was not going to

988
00:52:04.159 --> 00:52:07.079
<v Speaker 2>take the time to do the investigation.

989
00:52:08.400 --> 00:52:10.960
<v Speaker 1>Okay. What is the name of the second toe company?

990
00:52:12.039 --> 00:52:13.320
<v Speaker 2>APT Towing.

991
00:52:14.760 --> 00:52:18.440
<v Speaker 15>Att APT APT.

992
00:52:19.400 --> 00:52:23.639
<v Speaker 2>Got it and I do have the apartment complex is

993
00:52:23.840 --> 00:52:26.920
<v Speaker 2>ranch at Bear Creek Crystal.

994
00:52:27.000 --> 00:52:29.960
<v Speaker 3>Did APT advise you of your right to get that

995
00:52:30.159 --> 00:52:33.039
<v Speaker 3>car back for a very small initial payment of something

996
00:52:33.159 --> 00:52:36.840
<v Speaker 3>like sixty seven dollars approximately and then enter into a

997
00:52:36.880 --> 00:52:38.719
<v Speaker 3>payment arrangement with them that's required.

998
00:52:38.880 --> 00:52:42.119
<v Speaker 2>No, that they sat at the time when we first

999
00:52:42.159 --> 00:52:45.079
<v Speaker 2>were notified and called them that we owed them two

1000
00:52:45.119 --> 00:52:45.840
<v Speaker 2>thousand dollars.

1001
00:52:46.880 --> 00:52:49.599
<v Speaker 6>Okay, did they tell you there are now legal payment

1002
00:52:49.679 --> 00:52:51.039
<v Speaker 6>arrangements they have to make with you.

1003
00:52:51.039 --> 00:52:54.599
<v Speaker 1>You can get the clarification of that from the PUC.

1004
00:52:55.000 --> 00:52:55.599
<v Speaker 1>Well they can't.

1005
00:52:55.639 --> 00:52:57.920
<v Speaker 3>They have to and the first call I would make

1006
00:52:57.920 --> 00:53:00.480
<v Speaker 3>a fire use to the PUC to submit the complaint

1007
00:53:00.519 --> 00:53:00.960
<v Speaker 3>about them.

1008
00:53:01.280 --> 00:53:05.559
<v Speaker 1>The toe company will take that very very seriously and

1009
00:53:06.079 --> 00:53:06.840
<v Speaker 1>do you see, will.

1010
00:53:06.679 --> 00:53:10.000
<v Speaker 3>Also advise you of the details of your rights under

1011
00:53:10.079 --> 00:53:13.360
<v Speaker 3>this towing law, and that will give you some time

1012
00:53:14.079 --> 00:53:17.599
<v Speaker 3>to investigate us further without being at risk of having

1013
00:53:17.639 --> 00:53:19.480
<v Speaker 3>your automobile sold in the meantime.

1014
00:53:19.639 --> 00:53:23.920
<v Speaker 2>Unfortunately, I think by the way, yeah, go ahead. I

1015
00:53:24.000 --> 00:53:27.039
<v Speaker 2>was going to say, unfortunately we miss the deadline. I've

1016
00:53:27.079 --> 00:53:29.320
<v Speaker 2>been trying to get people to how I reached out

1017
00:53:29.639 --> 00:53:30.519
<v Speaker 2>to Fox News.

1018
00:53:30.679 --> 00:53:33.480
<v Speaker 1>What deadline did you miss? What deadline are you talking about?

1019
00:53:34.119 --> 00:53:37.079
<v Speaker 2>They said that if we didn't pay for the full

1020
00:53:38.639 --> 00:53:42.559
<v Speaker 2>impound fees by the nineteenth of this month, that we

1021
00:53:43.000 --> 00:53:45.840
<v Speaker 2>lost our ability to get those It was the date.

1022
00:53:45.880 --> 00:53:47.159
<v Speaker 1>Well, they're wrong.

1023
00:53:47.960 --> 00:53:51.159
<v Speaker 3>So APT is required by law to auction off your

1024
00:53:51.280 --> 00:53:56.119
<v Speaker 3>car after sixty days. You have until the fifty ninth

1025
00:53:56.239 --> 00:53:58.559
<v Speaker 3>day to come and get Okay, do you know.

1026
00:53:58.599 --> 00:54:01.320
<v Speaker 6>The date of the y and they can't charge you

1027
00:54:01.360 --> 00:54:05.760
<v Speaker 6>the whole amount or they can't, but they must allow

1028
00:54:05.880 --> 00:54:09.079
<v Speaker 6>you to make a down payment. They never advised you

1029
00:54:09.159 --> 00:54:11.760
<v Speaker 6>of a down payment. Indeed, you want to call over

1030
00:54:11.840 --> 00:54:12.719
<v Speaker 6>to that pee company.

1031
00:54:12.760 --> 00:54:15.679
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, just one quick question, Crystal, was the what was

1032
00:54:15.760 --> 00:54:18.119
<v Speaker 3>the date of the toe? Approximate date of the toe?

1033
00:54:18.639 --> 00:54:21.800
<v Speaker 2>I believe they picked up it on the twelfth of December,

1034
00:54:22.360 --> 00:54:24.719
<v Speaker 2>and they were giving us until January nineteenth.

1035
00:54:24.840 --> 00:54:29.400
<v Speaker 1>Today, I'll be happy to call them, Tom.

1036
00:54:32.079 --> 00:54:34.960
<v Speaker 6>Oh Man, I think you're getting screwed for sure. I

1037
00:54:35.000 --> 00:54:37.559
<v Speaker 6>don't think there's a massive scale going on, but I

1038
00:54:37.679 --> 00:54:43.800
<v Speaker 6>think you definitely the second company she said December twelfth, right,

1039
00:54:45.039 --> 00:54:48.320
<v Speaker 6>I think that company did not give you the right

1040
00:54:48.440 --> 00:54:50.679
<v Speaker 6>information to get your car back because they don't want to.

1041
00:54:55.480 --> 00:54:57.920
<v Speaker 1>I got to take a break. Is this the first break?

1042
00:54:59.719 --> 00:55:00.920
<v Speaker 1>I'm I'm in big trouble.

1043
00:55:00.960 --> 00:55:03.800
<v Speaker 6>I'm sorry, So I'm gonna get get the information for

1044
00:55:03.920 --> 00:55:05.280
<v Speaker 6>Deputy b d Here.

1045
00:55:05.719 --> 00:55:07.800
<v Speaker 1>I'm Tom Martino. Thanks man more coming up?

1046
00:55:12.440 --> 00:55:15.679
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1047
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1048
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1049
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1050
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1051
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1052
00:55:34.360 --> 00:55:36.559
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1053
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1054
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<v Speaker 6>three nine two zero sixteen twenty two. Hi Tom Martino,

1055
00:55:45.760 --> 00:55:49.119
<v Speaker 6>Your troubleshooter three oh three seven one three talk seven

1056
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<v Speaker 6>one three eight two five five Russ, what's happening with you?

1057
00:55:51.920 --> 00:55:52.199
<v Speaker 1>Russ?

1058
00:55:54.320 --> 00:55:57.119
<v Speaker 10>Wondering if you can give me some ideas. I have

1059
00:55:57.280 --> 00:56:00.599
<v Speaker 10>a ranch home and uh, we wish in the family

1060
00:56:00.719 --> 00:56:03.599
<v Speaker 10>room and it's just in that area, not in the bedroom,

1061
00:56:03.639 --> 00:56:06.679
<v Speaker 10>and then we hear a cracking popping sound and it

1062
00:56:06.760 --> 00:56:09.000
<v Speaker 10>gets worse when I turn the gas fireplace off.

1063
00:56:09.920 --> 00:56:11.840
<v Speaker 6>It doesn't do it a lot, but okay, hold on,

1064
00:56:12.320 --> 00:56:14.400
<v Speaker 6>hold on, a cracking There's a couple of things I

1065
00:56:14.440 --> 00:56:17.599
<v Speaker 6>want to ask you. When you say a cracking popping sound,

1066
00:56:18.239 --> 00:56:22.159
<v Speaker 6>does this sound if you can tell mechanical or electrical

1067
00:56:22.280 --> 00:56:23.039
<v Speaker 6>or you can't tell.

1068
00:56:24.039 --> 00:56:29.320
<v Speaker 10>No, it's it's structural. It's what structural?

1069
00:56:29.760 --> 00:56:33.360
<v Speaker 1>You know there like a like a floor creek or something.

1070
00:56:34.440 --> 00:56:37.000
<v Speaker 10>Yeah, kind of like, uh, you know, it sounds like

1071
00:56:37.119 --> 00:56:39.320
<v Speaker 10>the ceiling is going to fall on you. But you

1072
00:56:39.400 --> 00:56:42.920
<v Speaker 10>know it's it gets loud sometimes and it's been doing

1073
00:56:42.960 --> 00:56:45.639
<v Speaker 10>it for a while that it seems to be getting worse.

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00:56:45.719 --> 00:56:47.039
<v Speaker 10>And I'm just wondering if you have any.

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00:56:46.920 --> 00:56:49.760
<v Speaker 6>Idea and you hear, okay, hold on, are you noticing

1076
00:56:49.840 --> 00:56:51.960
<v Speaker 6>any cracks and walls or doors that are hard to

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00:56:52.000 --> 00:56:53.199
<v Speaker 6>close or anything different.

1078
00:56:53.360 --> 00:56:57.000
<v Speaker 1>Windows not opening, No, we even have now now.

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00:56:58.800 --> 00:57:03.960
<v Speaker 6>Okay, okay, So you hear this noise primarily in one

1080
00:57:04.039 --> 00:57:06.480
<v Speaker 6>room and not the others mostly.

1081
00:57:06.599 --> 00:57:11.400
<v Speaker 10>Yeah, yeah, it's the family room, and then there's a

1082
00:57:11.840 --> 00:57:14.719
<v Speaker 10>dining small dining area, and then we go into the kitchen,

1083
00:57:14.800 --> 00:57:19.360
<v Speaker 10>but we mostly hear it around that area. And the

1084
00:57:19.440 --> 00:57:22.760
<v Speaker 10>garage door is where the family room is where you

1085
00:57:22.840 --> 00:57:25.400
<v Speaker 10>go out to the garage, and you know, once we

1086
00:57:25.880 --> 00:57:27.719
<v Speaker 10>open the door, and then we can hear it every

1087
00:57:27.760 --> 00:57:28.760
<v Speaker 10>once in a while, you know.

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00:57:29.360 --> 00:57:31.599
<v Speaker 1>But now, what do you what do you hear? Tell

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00:57:31.679 --> 00:57:32.280
<v Speaker 1>me what you hear.

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00:57:33.079 --> 00:57:36.760
<v Speaker 10>It's like a cracking sound, you know, And I someone

1091
00:57:36.840 --> 00:57:37.639
<v Speaker 10>told me that it might be.

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00:57:37.880 --> 00:57:39.960
<v Speaker 1>Have you ever heard have you ever heard a creaky

1093
00:57:40.039 --> 00:57:41.599
<v Speaker 1>floor when you walk across it?

1094
00:57:42.760 --> 00:57:49.119
<v Speaker 10>Yes, but like that, Yeah, it's just an attic No, no, no, no,

1095
00:57:50.519 --> 00:57:50.960
<v Speaker 10>I get it.

1096
00:57:51.079 --> 00:57:53.480
<v Speaker 1>But does it sound like a creaky floor.

1097
00:57:54.599 --> 00:57:55.199
<v Speaker 10>Kind of yeah?

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00:57:57.360 --> 00:58:02.199
<v Speaker 1>And when it happens, does it happen one day and

1099
00:58:02.320 --> 00:58:04.239
<v Speaker 1>not the other on certain days?

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00:58:05.239 --> 00:58:10.079
<v Speaker 10>No, it's usually every other day. Maybe when I have

1101
00:58:10.199 --> 00:58:12.679
<v Speaker 10>the gas fireplace on, we're sitting in and watching TV.

1102
00:58:13.760 --> 00:58:16.280
<v Speaker 10>You know, all of a sudden you hear it real loud,

1103
00:58:16.360 --> 00:58:19.760
<v Speaker 10>and you know, there's no cracks in the ceiling nothing,

1104
00:58:20.280 --> 00:58:22.079
<v Speaker 10>you know, and I was someone told me that it

1105
00:58:22.159 --> 00:58:22.480
<v Speaker 10>might no.

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00:58:22.519 --> 00:58:22.880
<v Speaker 15>No, no, no no.

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00:58:23.400 --> 00:58:25.599
<v Speaker 1>So you turn on the gas fireplace and you hear

1108
00:58:25.679 --> 00:58:26.519
<v Speaker 1>it loud, right.

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00:58:27.159 --> 00:58:29.480
<v Speaker 10>Yeah, after a while, I think.

1110
00:58:29.400 --> 00:58:33.159
<v Speaker 1>It's your I know it because your flu is heating up.

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00:58:33.639 --> 00:58:36.280
<v Speaker 6>I think it's a reaction to the extreme cold and

1112
00:58:36.360 --> 00:58:40.280
<v Speaker 6>the warmth of your house and the metal flu going

1113
00:58:40.360 --> 00:58:42.559
<v Speaker 6>up through a wall. That's what I think. Now, that's

1114
00:58:42.679 --> 00:58:45.400
<v Speaker 6>just from hearing what you're saying. Obviously you can have

1115
00:58:45.519 --> 00:58:49.039
<v Speaker 6>that checked out. So you have a gas fireplace, yes,

1116
00:58:51.159 --> 00:58:54.159
<v Speaker 6>so it happens even when the gas fireplace.

1117
00:58:53.760 --> 00:58:59.840
<v Speaker 10>Is off right, Yeah, but not as loud and yeah, so.

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00:59:00.000 --> 00:59:03.840
<v Speaker 6>Oh hold on, so hold on. So so I think

1119
00:59:03.920 --> 00:59:06.320
<v Speaker 6>that's what it is. I think it's your your flu

1120
00:59:07.079 --> 00:59:09.880
<v Speaker 6>or some kind of duct work for that fireplace.

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00:59:09.960 --> 00:59:15.039
<v Speaker 1>I really do. Now there's a way to check it out,

1122
00:59:15.039 --> 00:59:16.480
<v Speaker 1>but I don't want you to get dangerous.

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<v Speaker 9>Are you.

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00:59:18.920 --> 00:59:20.599
<v Speaker 1>Do you know where that exhausts on the roof?

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00:59:21.679 --> 00:59:21.920
<v Speaker 10>Yeah?

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00:59:24.320 --> 00:59:28.840
<v Speaker 6>Okay, Now are you handy and I'm not asking you

1127
00:59:28.920 --> 00:59:30.360
<v Speaker 6>to do that. You ever get on your roof or not?

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00:59:32.119 --> 00:59:32.360
<v Speaker 10>Yeah?

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00:59:32.679 --> 00:59:32.920
<v Speaker 11>I do.

1130
00:59:33.119 --> 00:59:36.639
<v Speaker 10>But I'm seventy six now, and my wife and kids

1131
00:59:36.719 --> 00:59:38.519
<v Speaker 10>tell me don't get up on the roof.

1132
00:59:38.599 --> 00:59:41.360
<v Speaker 1>So I had no, don't don't do it. Don't do it,

1133
00:59:41.440 --> 00:59:43.360
<v Speaker 1>you old bastard, don't do it. I don't want you

1134
00:59:43.480 --> 00:59:45.639
<v Speaker 1>on my mind. I don't want you on my conscience.

1135
00:59:46.360 --> 00:59:51.239
<v Speaker 10>Yeah, so you could get you know, because someone told

1136
00:59:51.280 --> 00:59:53.039
<v Speaker 10>me that maybe it could help. I don't know.

1137
00:59:53.239 --> 00:59:56.360
<v Speaker 1>But uh so I'm having insulation where.

1138
00:59:56.280 --> 00:59:59.880
<v Speaker 10>Slation inlation on the attic, the whole the hole addic.

1139
01:00:00.159 --> 01:00:02.800
<v Speaker 1>Well, you don't have your attic is not insulated now,

1140
01:00:03.920 --> 01:00:04.760
<v Speaker 1>yes it is, but.

1141
01:00:04.840 --> 01:00:10.760
<v Speaker 10>It's my house is forty five years old, and it

1142
01:00:11.320 --> 01:00:12.239
<v Speaker 10>doesn't seem okay.

1143
01:00:13.400 --> 01:00:16.199
<v Speaker 6>Insulation is always going to help your house. I don't

1144
01:00:16.239 --> 01:00:19.280
<v Speaker 6>know if it'll help the noise. I sincerely think, do

1145
01:00:19.360 --> 01:00:20.920
<v Speaker 6>you know what that flu is made of? Is it

1146
01:00:21.000 --> 01:00:22.159
<v Speaker 6>a pipe or is it a duct?

1147
01:00:22.320 --> 01:00:22.599
<v Speaker 2>Do you know?

1148
01:00:23.880 --> 01:00:25.880
<v Speaker 10>I don't know. I think it's a pipe. I don't know.

1149
01:00:27.519 --> 01:00:29.840
<v Speaker 6>It's like a big silver, ugly pipe and it comes

1150
01:00:29.880 --> 01:00:32.639
<v Speaker 6>out of your roof and you got a covered yes.

1151
01:00:34.280 --> 01:00:36.320
<v Speaker 6>Is it bricked around your roof or is it just

1152
01:00:36.880 --> 01:00:38.880
<v Speaker 6>a stovepipe hicking out with a top.

1153
01:00:39.000 --> 01:00:41.920
<v Speaker 10>Obviously I'm probably just a stove pipe. We just have

1154
01:00:42.320 --> 01:00:44.159
<v Speaker 10>sighting on the outside.

1155
01:00:44.400 --> 01:00:46.559
<v Speaker 1>You can't see it. But you can't see it on

1156
01:00:46.639 --> 01:00:48.880
<v Speaker 1>the roof. If it's just a stovepipe sticking.

1157
01:00:48.599 --> 01:00:53.119
<v Speaker 10>Out, well there's yeah, there's a stove pipe kind of

1158
01:00:53.239 --> 01:00:53.559
<v Speaker 10>I guess.

1159
01:00:53.639 --> 01:00:54.119
<v Speaker 9>And it's.

1160
01:00:55.719 --> 01:00:59.599
<v Speaker 10>Maybe maybe eight inches ten inches.

1161
01:01:01.079 --> 01:01:03.719
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that's it now. And it goes and it looks

1162
01:01:03.800 --> 01:01:04.599
<v Speaker 1>like it goes down.

1163
01:01:04.480 --> 01:01:09.159
<v Speaker 10>To your where your stove is, right, yes, exactly.

1164
01:01:08.880 --> 01:01:09.920
<v Speaker 1>Okay are your fireplace?

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01:01:10.079 --> 01:01:10.400
<v Speaker 8>All right?

1166
01:01:10.480 --> 01:01:13.360
<v Speaker 1>Here's what I don't want you to do. But somebody

1167
01:01:13.440 --> 01:01:15.800
<v Speaker 1>could do. A handyman. You have him go up on

1168
01:01:15.880 --> 01:01:17.639
<v Speaker 1>the roof. I got to take a break.

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01:01:18.039 --> 01:01:19.599
<v Speaker 6>You have n't go up on the roof and they

1170
01:01:19.679 --> 01:01:23.079
<v Speaker 6>listen from the top and it'll be a distinct pinging sound.

1171
01:01:23.519 --> 01:01:26.760
<v Speaker 6>But that's I'm almost positive that's what it is. Installation's

1172
01:01:26.800 --> 01:01:29.159
<v Speaker 6>not going to stop it. It's just a fact of life.

1173
01:01:29.440 --> 01:01:31.559
<v Speaker 6>It got a little loose over the years. You may

1174
01:01:31.639 --> 01:01:33.639
<v Speaker 6>want to have a chimney sweep check it out and

1175
01:01:33.679 --> 01:01:36.480
<v Speaker 6>make sure it's secure. They can help secure it and

1176
01:01:36.639 --> 01:01:40.880
<v Speaker 6>maybe cement it where it's loose, or maybe even replace

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01:01:40.960 --> 01:01:41.440
<v Speaker 6>the liner.

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01:01:41.840 --> 01:01:44.840
<v Speaker 1>Whatever. Just that's what I think it is. We have

1179
01:01:44.960 --> 01:01:51.320
<v Speaker 1>more coming up on the Troubleshooter show. Go with a

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01:01:51.440 --> 01:01:51.880
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01:01:52.039 --> 01:01:55.360
<v Speaker 6>Denver's best roofer Excel Roofing dot com. You don't pay

1182
01:01:55.400 --> 01:02:02.000
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01:02:09.000 --> 01:02:11.239
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01:02:11.280 --> 01:02:14.039
<v Speaker 6>think you're his only customer when you choose Frank durand

1187
01:02:14.039 --> 01:02:16.440
<v Speaker 6>the real estate Man dot com to list your home

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01:02:16.719 --> 01:02:19.840
<v Speaker 6>with Remax Alliance three oh three nine two zero sixteen

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01:02:19.920 --> 01:02:29.639
<v Speaker 6>twenty two. Tom Martine, Here, we're going to Jordan Caiano. Hey, Jordan,

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<v Speaker 6>I want to talk about this. Somebody asks, at what

1191
01:02:34.360 --> 01:02:40.599
<v Speaker 6>point do you suggest a fixed indextinuity for someone that

1192
01:02:40.760 --> 01:02:46.920
<v Speaker 6>has some guaranteed returns and guaranteed guaranteed growth and guaranteed income.

1193
01:02:47.679 --> 01:02:49.480
<v Speaker 6>I want to know your reasoning, and I want to

1194
01:02:49.480 --> 01:02:51.719
<v Speaker 6>tell you what I'm thinking upfront, because I don't want to.

1195
01:02:51.920 --> 01:02:53.599
<v Speaker 1>I know, I don't believe in submarine people.

1196
01:02:53.639 --> 01:02:57.320
<v Speaker 6>I love you, guys, I really do, but I believe

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01:02:57.400 --> 01:03:01.360
<v Speaker 6>many people are placed in annuities by companies that they

1198
01:03:01.440 --> 01:03:04.199
<v Speaker 6>shouldn't be in because they're young enough that I believe

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01:03:04.239 --> 01:03:06.519
<v Speaker 6>they could make they could grow their nest egg and

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01:03:06.599 --> 01:03:10.159
<v Speaker 6>they're limited in returns by annuities to a certain extent.

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01:03:10.199 --> 01:03:12.559
<v Speaker 6>Now I'm not saying that there's not a place for annuities.

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01:03:12.679 --> 01:03:16.679
<v Speaker 6>I have one, Jordan, and you guys were very brilliant

1203
01:03:16.760 --> 01:03:18.840
<v Speaker 6>on analyzing everything I brought to you.

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01:03:19.039 --> 01:03:21.800
<v Speaker 1>Now here's what I want to ask you. When do

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01:03:21.840 --> 01:03:23.760
<v Speaker 1>you decide someone is right for an annuity?

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01:03:25.039 --> 01:03:27.360
<v Speaker 9>Yeah, I would say, you know, really, we kind of

1207
01:03:27.400 --> 01:03:29.559
<v Speaker 9>look at a few factors. Age is a big piece,

1208
01:03:29.599 --> 01:03:32.400
<v Speaker 9>because you're you're spot on with that. I think anybody

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01:03:32.480 --> 01:03:36.360
<v Speaker 9>that's probably in their thirties, the twenties, maybe even.

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01:03:36.280 --> 01:03:38.800
<v Speaker 1>Early forties, maybe no, you really, yeah, you.

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01:03:38.840 --> 01:03:40.639
<v Speaker 9>Know, that's kind of where that cut off white starts

1212
01:03:40.679 --> 01:03:43.960
<v Speaker 9>to give, because you know, if they have a place

1213
01:03:44.039 --> 01:03:47.039
<v Speaker 9>to be able to earn you know, obviously higher returns

1214
01:03:47.360 --> 01:03:49.519
<v Speaker 9>and are not worried about the risk of the time,

1215
01:03:49.760 --> 01:03:52.000
<v Speaker 9>well then of course you know they can take advantage

1216
01:03:52.000 --> 01:03:54.159
<v Speaker 9>of the forward k's broker's.

1217
01:03:53.800 --> 01:03:54.679
<v Speaker 10>Accounts, that kind of thing.

1218
01:03:54.880 --> 01:03:56.280
<v Speaker 9>But we kind of see that for a lot of

1219
01:03:56.280 --> 01:03:59.480
<v Speaker 9>people who leave those accounts behind from old employers, they

1220
01:03:59.519 --> 01:04:01.719
<v Speaker 9>don't even do anything with them, and we try to

1221
01:04:01.800 --> 01:04:04.400
<v Speaker 9>make sure that you just get back to controlling them

1222
01:04:04.639 --> 01:04:08.360
<v Speaker 9>and getting guarantees and bonuses and of course, as Marc

1223
01:04:08.400 --> 01:04:10.199
<v Speaker 9>has mentioned, our long term care benefits. That a is

1224
01:04:10.239 --> 01:04:11.440
<v Speaker 9>a huge one in today's world.

1225
01:04:12.840 --> 01:04:13.079
<v Speaker 10>It is.

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01:04:13.360 --> 01:04:16.800
<v Speaker 6>It is absolutely now as people get older and they

1227
01:04:16.880 --> 01:04:21.800
<v Speaker 6>want that security, they don't mind risking some of the

1228
01:04:21.920 --> 01:04:27.199
<v Speaker 6>higher returns if they get guaranteed safety, right, correct.

1229
01:04:26.920 --> 01:04:29.440
<v Speaker 8>And we're still talking about double digit returns.

1230
01:04:29.760 --> 01:04:31.960
<v Speaker 9>You know, it's just a matter if it follows indexes,

1231
01:04:32.679 --> 01:04:35.039
<v Speaker 9>golds and teach five hundred dow Jones all of that.

1232
01:04:35.239 --> 01:04:37.800
<v Speaker 9>But to your point, you're not buying individual stocks, so

1233
01:04:37.880 --> 01:04:40.840
<v Speaker 9>it gives the growth with the floor, so you don't

1234
01:04:40.880 --> 01:04:42.920
<v Speaker 9>have to drop through when the market drops, but you

1235
01:04:43.119 --> 01:04:45.639
<v Speaker 9>lock in your earnings each year so you never have

1236
01:04:45.719 --> 01:04:46.960
<v Speaker 9>to go backwards going forward.

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01:04:47.400 --> 01:04:49.119
<v Speaker 6>I want to ask you something real quick here, bro

1238
01:04:51.519 --> 01:04:55.280
<v Speaker 6>on an annuity. What pick one of your best annuities

1239
01:04:55.639 --> 01:04:59.119
<v Speaker 6>and a true performance. What has it been returning let's

1240
01:04:59.119 --> 01:05:00.800
<v Speaker 6>say an average over the the last three years.

1241
01:05:02.559 --> 01:05:06.119
<v Speaker 9>Yeah, well, see that's the one thing with indextinuities. It's

1242
01:05:06.159 --> 01:05:09.519
<v Speaker 9>gonna be based on everybody's anniversary date. You know, you

1243
01:05:09.599 --> 01:05:12.199
<v Speaker 9>have some phenomenal ones that people who came back with Well.

1244
01:05:12.400 --> 01:05:15.320
<v Speaker 6>I understand, I understand, But if you pick one or two.

1245
01:05:15.440 --> 01:05:19.360
<v Speaker 6>If you pick one and you can show certainly performance data.

1246
01:05:19.599 --> 01:05:22.639
<v Speaker 6>I'd like to explore some of that. Just listen, we're

1247
01:05:22.719 --> 01:05:25.679
<v Speaker 6>not taying people, you know. In fact, annuities are one

1248
01:05:25.679 --> 01:05:29.559
<v Speaker 6>of the few things you can quote like that because securities.

1249
01:05:29.880 --> 01:05:32.639
<v Speaker 6>People look askance at people doing it with stocks and

1250
01:05:32.679 --> 01:05:36.719
<v Speaker 6>stuff because nothing is an indication. But with a fixed

1251
01:05:36.800 --> 01:05:39.719
<v Speaker 6>in deestinuity, it's not a security and you can quote

1252
01:05:39.760 --> 01:05:41.639
<v Speaker 6>what it's been doing. Hold on, I'll come back to.

1253
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<v Speaker 1>That right after this.

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<v Speaker 6>Go with a sure thing Denver's Best roofer Excel Roofing

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1256
01:05:56.119 --> 01:05:59.239
<v Speaker 6>Time for an insurance check up free, no obligation. In comparison,

1257
01:05:59.400 --> 01:06:02.559
<v Speaker 6>call come this insurance paying too much your coverage at

1258
01:06:02.639 --> 01:06:05.360
<v Speaker 6>dozens of insurance companies find out now three oh three

1259
01:06:05.519 --> 01:06:08.079
<v Speaker 6>seven seven to one help. You'll think you're his only

1260
01:06:08.199 --> 01:06:10.599
<v Speaker 6>customer when you choose Frank Durand the real estate Man

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<v Speaker 6>dot com to list your home with Remax Alliance three

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<v Speaker 6>oh three nine two zero sixteen twenty two. Hi Tom

1263
01:06:24.079 --> 01:06:27.039
<v Speaker 6>Martino here, Welcome to the show. Three oh three seven

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01:06:27.119 --> 01:06:30.679
<v Speaker 6>one three talk seven one three eight two five. So

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<v Speaker 6>Jordan Ciano, just real quickly here and Michael, I'm going

1266
01:06:34.000 --> 01:06:36.239
<v Speaker 6>to get to you, I promise you and any other

1267
01:06:36.320 --> 01:06:38.320
<v Speaker 6>caller at three o three seven to one three talker

1268
01:06:38.400 --> 01:06:41.039
<v Speaker 6>three oh three Martino three oh three six two seventy

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<v Speaker 6>four sixty six. Jordan. So you also have overfunding life insurance.

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<v Speaker 6>Become the banker. Explain that then, because certainly that's good

1271
01:06:51.599 --> 01:06:54.840
<v Speaker 6>for almost anyone, don't you think absolutely.

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<v Speaker 9>I mean, that is our bread and butter. As you

1273
01:06:56.840 --> 01:06:59.320
<v Speaker 9>we'd like to say, you're building tax free money away

1274
01:06:59.360 --> 01:07:01.840
<v Speaker 9>from the banks and really just kind of getting away

1275
01:07:01.840 --> 01:07:04.360
<v Speaker 9>as money away from the government from taxation as best

1276
01:07:04.360 --> 01:07:05.760
<v Speaker 9>as you can. And that's what we do with to

1277
01:07:05.880 --> 01:07:06.440
<v Speaker 9>become the baker.

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01:07:06.760 --> 01:07:09.719
<v Speaker 6>Explain how that works. Explain Explain how that works. The

1279
01:07:09.800 --> 01:07:14.079
<v Speaker 6>goal is not really life insurance, but that's like frosting correct.

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<v Speaker 9>Yeah, you know, it's it's kind of a unique way

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<v Speaker 9>of looking at whole life. But it's a very specialize.

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<v Speaker 9>There's only about five life insurance companies that offer these

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<v Speaker 9>type of banking policies. We work with all five, and

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<v Speaker 9>really it's just about overfunding. You put money into it.

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<v Speaker 9>You're building it almost like a like a tax repity bank,

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<v Speaker 9>if you will.

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<v Speaker 5>And as the people say.

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<v Speaker 6>People say, why would I overfund something? Why would I

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<v Speaker 6>pay more than the cost of insurance? Explain that because

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<v Speaker 6>the extra cash grows tax deferred.

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<v Speaker 9>Well, it's correct tax deferment. It stays tax free in

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<v Speaker 9>the policy you can use it.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, it stays tax free if they do what you

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<v Speaker 1>guys say.

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<v Speaker 6>And we're going to go over what you guys say,

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<v Speaker 6>because that's where it stays tax So you can say

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<v Speaker 6>tax free for a nest egg. Talking about nest Egg,

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<v Speaker 6>if you don't have a lot of money to invest,

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<v Speaker 6>it's one of the best products you can offer. Hang on,

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<v Speaker 6>we'll talk about that and more. Coming back with the

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<v Speaker 1>we can shoot, It's gonna come.

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<v Speaker 4>Dix. He is the Troubleshooter Show.

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<v Speaker 1>No Tom Martino, Hello Tom Martino here, and I invite

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<v Speaker 1>you to call in. For the first time.

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<v Speaker 6>We have full open lines at three oh three seven

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<v Speaker 6>one three talk three oh three seven one three eight

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<v Speaker 6>two five five, fighting for you, solving problems, answering questions,

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<v Speaker 6>taking plays. Major Mark Majors on with me along with

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<v Speaker 6>Deputy d Over here to my side of your streaming.

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<v Speaker 6>Deputy Bows at the studio and Kachina Glory on the phones.

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<v Speaker 1>And uh Dragon, we get the B team after Shannon leaves. Actually,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm just kidding. He's he I have an A plus.

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<v Speaker 1>I'll let you figure out which one switch.

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<v Speaker 6>So, Deputy d Uh we had a woman call earlier

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<v Speaker 6>and it was distressing, but let's just talk about it.

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<v Speaker 6>Her son has a nineteen eighty five Dodge Ram that

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<v Speaker 6>wasn't running and the registration was expired and it was

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<v Speaker 6>towed from an apartment complex, but apparently the apartment complex

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<v Speaker 6>never called anyone to come toe it. She suspects someone

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<v Speaker 6>was there looking at a neighbor's car to bring to

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<v Speaker 6>repairs and probably noticed her car and came back and

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<v Speaker 6>got it under no authorization, no twenty four hour notice,

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<v Speaker 6>none of the legal ramifications. However, she doesn't know the

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<v Speaker 6>name of the toe company, so what she does know

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<v Speaker 6>is that it was actually towed to impound from a

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<v Speaker 6>private lot. So she suspects somebody towed it from the

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<v Speaker 6>apartment complex with no authorization to a private lot so

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<v Speaker 6>that private lot could go through the motion and legally

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<v Speaker 6>impound it or I say legally meaning as if it

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<v Speaker 6>was parked there, and she thinks it's an elaborate scam.

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<v Speaker 6>But APT Towing is the one that towed it from

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<v Speaker 6>that private lot, and whether they did it legally or not,

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<v Speaker 6>did they give the twenty four hour notice and all

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<v Speaker 6>that they would have never known because it was out

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<v Speaker 6>from their normal part working spot at the apartment complex.

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<v Speaker 6>So now what we have is a situation where it's

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<v Speaker 6>going to cause two grand to get this eighty five

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<v Speaker 6>dodge ram back what she describes as a family heirloom.

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<v Speaker 1>But the problem is.

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<v Speaker 6>Is that.

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<v Speaker 1>She was never advised, according to her that under new

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<v Speaker 1>state law, they have to offer financing provisions to take

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<v Speaker 1>it from their deputy d Thanks Tom.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, this story really stinks, especially the part where her

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<v Speaker 3>car was initially told by an unmarked tow truck into

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<v Speaker 3>the commercial lot.

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<v Speaker 1>After that APT took over.

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<v Speaker 3>So a few minutes ago, our caller Crystal sent me

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<v Speaker 3>the letter that she received from APT advising her of

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<v Speaker 3>the balance too. I called that number and I spoke

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<v Speaker 3>with a lady by the name of Brie, and she

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<v Speaker 3>I told her why I was forthcoming. Oh no, she

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<v Speaker 3>hung up on me twice.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, and that tells you something right off the bat.

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<v Speaker 1>It stinks.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, this is something is something is going on. In

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<v Speaker 3>my opinion, something very dirty is going on. So Brie

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<v Speaker 3>hung up on me after I told her why I

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<v Speaker 3>was calling. I called back again. I told her that

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<v Speaker 3>I'd like to speak with her or if she doesn't

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<v Speaker 3>want to provide any comment on this matter, then I'd

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<v Speaker 3>like to speak with Karen A.

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<v Speaker 1>Fisher. She's the Karen A.

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<v Speaker 3>Fisher is the lady who's been filing all of the

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<v Speaker 3>documents with the color of Secretary of State's Office on

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<v Speaker 3>behalf of APT service.

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<v Speaker 1>So as soon as I talked, as soon as I.

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<v Speaker 3>As soon as I mentioned Karen Fisher's name, the lady

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<v Speaker 3>who claims to be Bri said, I don't care if

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<v Speaker 3>you call the PUC and hung up on me again.

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<v Speaker 3>So at this point, I'm going to contact the PUC

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<v Speaker 3>and get there, get there, get their suggestion. So she

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<v Speaker 3>she was that obstinate, Oh no, she was. Yeah, she

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<v Speaker 3>was the most unpleasant person I've spoke to in in

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<v Speaker 3>my course of work over here since Wow helping you

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<v Speaker 3>just a really rough, unpleasant, nasty, nasty lady.

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<v Speaker 1>But I won't hold that against her.

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<v Speaker 3>All we're trying to do is make sure that Crystal

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<v Speaker 3>is able to get her vehicle back under terms in

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<v Speaker 3>accordance with the state law. Now, Crystal did bring that

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<v Speaker 3>up to APT Towing when she first called them, and

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<v Speaker 3>they wouldn't let According to Crystal, they said the entire

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<v Speaker 3>balance is due.

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<v Speaker 1>It's due now, And it sounds like.

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<v Speaker 3>They also either told her or at least implied that, oh,

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<v Speaker 3>it's too late now and we're going to sell the vehicle.

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<v Speaker 3>So that's one of the clarifications that I sought to

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<v Speaker 3>get from APT Towing, but it was unable to because

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<v Speaker 3>they just keep hanging up. So Crystal is calling the

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<v Speaker 3>PUC right now as we speak, And then as soon

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<v Speaker 3>as I complete this update, I too, am going to

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<v Speaker 3>call the PC and get their perspective on what to

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<v Speaker 3>do next, because I can tell you one thing. The

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<v Speaker 3>car is just days away from being sold at auction.

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<v Speaker 1>And these are they're being jerks. They really are being jerks.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh with a capital J, Tom, that is too bad.

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<v Speaker 3>And you know, and if you're not doing something dirty,

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<v Speaker 3>something underhanded, something sneaky, why not talk to somebody about it.

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<v Speaker 3>Why not explain your position and tell us what the

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<v Speaker 3>consumer can do to get their car.

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<v Speaker 1>Man, that sucks. What's the name of that company? APT

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<v Speaker 1>Service Inc? What's their phone number? I don't give. I

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<v Speaker 1>give the number I call. People should know about them.

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<v Speaker 1>The number I called just in case somebody is accidentally

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<v Speaker 1>about to call them to to order a toe or something.

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<v Speaker 3>It's three zero three four five five one two six four. Man, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>so I called three oh three four five five one

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<v Speaker 3>two six.

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<v Speaker 1>Four, and man Bree was nasty to me. That sucks.

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<v Speaker 1>It sucks with a capitalists all right, Well, thank you

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<v Speaker 1>people for helping us out when it comes to this

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<v Speaker 1>kind of stuff, because they need to know that they're jerks.

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<v Speaker 6>They didn't do anything right, and they know that we know.

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<v Speaker 6>And did you ask about her charge allowing financing for this?

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<v Speaker 1>Oh?

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<v Speaker 3>As soon as I didn't even get a chance to,

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<v Speaker 3>I told her the reason I was calling and what

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<v Speaker 3>my questions are. And by the way, I didn't call

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<v Speaker 3>to point my finger at them or accuse them of

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<v Speaker 3>any wrongdoing because at that point I still don't know

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<v Speaker 3>what they did wrong. If anything, I still don't know

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<v Speaker 3>what connection they have with you on marked tow truck

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<v Speaker 3>that sneaked the view podential lot into a private business lot.

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<v Speaker 3>I was going to discuss all of that. I didn't

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<v Speaker 3>get a chance. I didn't get a chance to ask

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<v Speaker 3>any of those questions because APT Towing hung up on

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<v Speaker 3>me twice.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, people give the number out again, Sorry, just

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<v Speaker 1>give it out.

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<v Speaker 3>But the number I called was three zero three four

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<v Speaker 3>or five five one two six four.

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<v Speaker 1>Tell him that Martino told you to call.

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<v Speaker 6>Don't be a jerk about it, just you know, tell them, hey,

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<v Speaker 6>you know this whole thing has uh is has stink

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<v Speaker 6>all over it. You can put it that way, stink

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<v Speaker 6>all over it. Yeah, and that you're gonna let people know.

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<v Speaker 6>And she doesn't care. We Uh, she doesn't care if

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<v Speaker 6>we go to the public utilities.

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<v Speaker 1>No, go ahead, call the PUC. Go ahead and click. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>you know what we're going to call the POP. That's

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<v Speaker 1>my next phone call.

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<v Speaker 6>All right, three oh three seven one three talk seven

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<v Speaker 6>one three eight two five five Okay. On consumer news, Oh, Jordan, First, Jordan,

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<v Speaker 6>somebody wrote to me saying they have an annuity. They

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<v Speaker 6>had it when they were younger. They want to participate

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<v Speaker 6>in the stock market. They want to cash in the annuity.

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<v Speaker 6>They didn't get it from you. They're just they just

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<v Speaker 6>felt it was inappropriate at the time. And they're now

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<v Speaker 6>forty five. They're forty five. Their past what's called the

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<v Speaker 6>surrender period. But explain surrender periods, and explain how that

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<v Speaker 6>person goes about and gets money and how much of

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<v Speaker 6>that money will they get back.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 9>So the thing is having floors and bonuses, just like

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<v Speaker 9>anything else. You know, a broker's account, you don't have

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<v Speaker 9>you can lose all the money right with this, They

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<v Speaker 9>have that floor and they give you a fifteen percent

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<v Speaker 9>bonus up front. So they have what's called surrender periods,

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<v Speaker 9>as you mentioned.

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<v Speaker 6>Some companies before that, before that money becomes yours right.

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<v Speaker 9>Before the full account. If you wanted to cash out now,

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<v Speaker 9>if you end up turning the income on it any year,

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<v Speaker 9>you can do that. If you decide to take some

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<v Speaker 9>withdrawal out, you can take up to ten percent with that, you.

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<v Speaker 6>Can take up to you can take without penalty up

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<v Speaker 6>to ten percent.

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<v Speaker 1>Is that right, Jordan?

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<v Speaker 9>That is correct. And again and if you need income

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<v Speaker 9>and you're ready to turn that switch on, you don't

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<v Speaker 9>have to wait the full surrender period. It's only if

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<v Speaker 9>companies are offering bonuses and offering benefits. They don't want

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<v Speaker 9>you to hop around from company to company and pack

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<v Speaker 9>up bonuses, of course, because that'd be a great way

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<v Speaker 9>to make a lot of money, right.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, So now, yeah, of course, So tell us then

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<v Speaker 6>what the surrender period usually looks like.

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<v Speaker 9>Yeah, so, well, like I mentioned, it's about seven years,

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01:18:13.119 --> 01:18:15.720
<v Speaker 9>there's ten years, and then there's some companies that we

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<v Speaker 9>don't really like to use it and deal with. But

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<v Speaker 9>there's some bad ones we found out there from clients

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<v Speaker 9>that have fourteen years or twenty years even and those

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<v Speaker 9>are the ones that unfortunately you hear a lot about

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<v Speaker 9>that give these twenty five percent bonuses, they're thirty percent

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<v Speaker 9>that they lock these clients in for the entirety of

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<v Speaker 9>their life not able to get that money out. So

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<v Speaker 9>we really focus only on these when it makes sense

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<v Speaker 9>for somebody younger. Personal text in you can get these

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01:18:40.279 --> 01:18:44.840
<v Speaker 9>fixed index ainuities without surrender windows because a lot of

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01:18:44.920 --> 01:18:47.560
<v Speaker 9>times it has to do with the income writer or

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01:18:47.640 --> 01:18:50.399
<v Speaker 9>that guaranteed income that we offer for all of our clients.

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<v Speaker 9>So that's something that we talk on one on them

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01:18:52.439 --> 01:18:54.960
<v Speaker 9>with everybody. It just depends on their age, where they're

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<v Speaker 9>at in life, and when they're ready to take money.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, what's going on, Daryl, Welcome to the show, bro,

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you.

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<v Speaker 11>I was calling my mother in law, who currently resides

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01:19:08.960 --> 01:19:13.319
<v Speaker 11>in Mexico, is looking for a real estate attorney and

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01:19:13.600 --> 01:19:18.840
<v Speaker 11>somebody to handle her estate as well that is familiar

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01:19:18.920 --> 01:19:22.640
<v Speaker 11>with law in Mexico and the US. She has holdings in.

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01:19:23.159 --> 01:19:25.880
<v Speaker 1>Now, why both places? Does she own stuff here?

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01:19:28.439 --> 01:19:28.840
<v Speaker 8>I don't.

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01:19:29.000 --> 01:19:31.560
<v Speaker 11>She doesn't own any property in the States currently, she

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01:19:31.720 --> 01:19:36.039
<v Speaker 11>has multiple accounts in the States. She does own property

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01:19:36.079 --> 01:19:36.640
<v Speaker 11>in Mexico.

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<v Speaker 1>She might be overthinking this. How much property does she

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01:19:42.000 --> 01:19:42.760
<v Speaker 1>own in Mexico?

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01:19:44.319 --> 01:19:45.720
<v Speaker 8>It's just her home, it's.

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01:19:48.000 --> 01:19:48.880
<v Speaker 1>And is it paid for?

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01:19:50.640 --> 01:19:50.920
<v Speaker 2>It is?

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01:19:51.079 --> 01:19:51.279
<v Speaker 8>Yes?

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01:19:53.000 --> 01:19:53.640
<v Speaker 1>How much does it.

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01:19:53.720 --> 01:19:57.760
<v Speaker 8>Worth around five hundred thousand.

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01:19:59.079 --> 01:20:02.039
<v Speaker 6>Okay, what she and it's paid for? And then how

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01:20:02.119 --> 01:20:05.920
<v Speaker 6>much money in the state's total on bank accounts.

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<v Speaker 8>She probably has a couple of millions.

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01:20:11.800 --> 01:20:21.840
<v Speaker 1>Okay, And she is she is she married? Single?

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01:20:21.920 --> 01:20:25.439
<v Speaker 8>Or what she was married? Her husband passed.

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01:20:26.760 --> 01:20:29.760
<v Speaker 6>So she's single, a couple million bucks, a house paid

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01:20:29.800 --> 01:20:32.640
<v Speaker 6>for in Mexico, and she's looking for a state planning

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01:20:32.840 --> 01:20:34.840
<v Speaker 6>right correct?

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01:20:36.720 --> 01:20:37.039
<v Speaker 1>Okay?

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01:20:37.479 --> 01:20:39.359
<v Speaker 6>Does she have a boyfriend which she liked to meet,

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01:20:39.399 --> 01:20:43.079
<v Speaker 6>a nice elderly American man who's pretty good shape.

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01:20:43.960 --> 01:20:48.359
<v Speaker 1>Just kidding, all.

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<v Speaker 6>Right, So listen, man, I'm going to get one of

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01:20:51.520 --> 01:20:52.680
<v Speaker 6>our state planning attorneys on.

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01:20:52.760 --> 01:20:53.800
<v Speaker 1>I think you're overthinking it.

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01:20:53.840 --> 01:20:56.920
<v Speaker 6>Though, because here's if this was my mother.

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01:20:56.840 --> 01:20:59.760
<v Speaker 1>In law calling me. If this was my mother in

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01:20:59.840 --> 01:21:05.359
<v Speaker 1>law calling me, this is what I would do. I want.

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<v Speaker 6>This is exactly what I view. I would take all

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01:21:08.760 --> 01:21:12.319
<v Speaker 6>of the bank accounts in America. Now does she First

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01:21:12.319 --> 01:21:14.520
<v Speaker 6>of all, I have to ask does she have multiple.

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01:21:14.159 --> 01:21:15.560
<v Speaker 1>Heirs or one main heir?

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01:21:17.479 --> 01:21:18.560
<v Speaker 8>She has two children?

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01:21:20.279 --> 01:21:23.239
<v Speaker 6>Okay, that's easy. And does she plan on doing everything

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01:21:23.319 --> 01:21:24.039
<v Speaker 6>fifty to fifty?

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01:21:26.199 --> 01:21:31.239
<v Speaker 8>Well, I guess her her husband's children are also there

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01:21:31.319 --> 01:21:32.039
<v Speaker 8>too there as.

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01:21:32.000 --> 01:21:38.279
<v Speaker 6>Well, well, her husband's children. Okay, but he died and

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01:21:38.399 --> 01:21:40.760
<v Speaker 6>everything went to the wife. Was there any will or

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01:21:40.800 --> 01:21:42.640
<v Speaker 6>any provision for those kids?

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01:21:44.199 --> 01:21:46.119
<v Speaker 8>I don't know that there was, but I think that

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01:21:46.239 --> 01:21:49.119
<v Speaker 8>she wants to make sure she does right by them

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01:21:49.159 --> 01:21:49.520
<v Speaker 8>as well.

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01:21:53.600 --> 01:21:56.239
<v Speaker 1>Okay, So how many heirs all together?

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01:21:58.600 --> 01:22:02.039
<v Speaker 8>If you're going so her two children and her husband's

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01:22:02.079 --> 01:22:05.159
<v Speaker 8>two children, and are they all going to get an

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01:22:05.159 --> 01:22:10.520
<v Speaker 8>equal amount? I couldn't say that with any certainty. I

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01:22:10.800 --> 01:22:14.039
<v Speaker 8>think that's her intention, but I it probably will not

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01:22:14.159 --> 01:22:14.600
<v Speaker 8>go that way.

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01:22:14.920 --> 01:22:16.800
<v Speaker 1>Do the do the kids all? Do the kids all

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01:22:16.880 --> 01:22:17.359
<v Speaker 1>know each other?

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01:22:19.479 --> 01:22:20.720
<v Speaker 8>Everybody does know each other?

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01:22:20.840 --> 01:22:21.039
<v Speaker 6>Yes?

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01:22:22.319 --> 01:22:23.800
<v Speaker 1>And is everyone friendly.

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<v Speaker 8>Friendly?

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01:22:26.079 --> 01:22:30.119
<v Speaker 1>Yes? Would everyone accept a quarter of the estate.

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01:22:33.119 --> 01:22:33.680
<v Speaker 8>Potentially?

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<v Speaker 6>Okay, Now, I'm not going to give you legal advice,

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01:22:39.560 --> 01:22:41.279
<v Speaker 6>but I'm going to tell you exactly what I would

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01:22:41.319 --> 01:22:42.279
<v Speaker 6>do for my mother in law.

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01:22:44.399 --> 01:22:46.239
<v Speaker 1>I would make the four heirs.

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01:22:47.039 --> 01:22:49.079
<v Speaker 6>Sign a part Now, now you're gonna also talk to

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01:22:49.119 --> 01:22:52.760
<v Speaker 6>an attorney behind the scenes, Kachina colorI.

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01:22:53.359 --> 01:22:57.479
<v Speaker 1>Is trying to get Dan mackenzie on I think. So

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01:22:57.680 --> 01:22:58.560
<v Speaker 1>here's what we're going to do.

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<v Speaker 6>I would have the four airs sign a partnership agreement

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01:23:03.800 --> 01:23:11.560
<v Speaker 6>agreeing to take twenty five percent of whatever she leaves behind. Okay,

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01:23:12.439 --> 01:23:14.960
<v Speaker 6>and that they would not fight each other, and they

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01:23:15.000 --> 01:23:18.399
<v Speaker 6>would not fight each other for a dime more twenty

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01:23:18.520 --> 01:23:21.640
<v Speaker 6>five percent of net proceeds, meaning if they have to

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01:23:21.680 --> 01:23:24.520
<v Speaker 6>pay an income tax because of deferred earnings or whatever.

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01:23:24.880 --> 01:23:27.000
<v Speaker 6>Normally there's no estate tax. Okay, you don't have to

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01:23:27.000 --> 01:23:29.960
<v Speaker 6>worry about that, But I'm talking about other kinds of

1589
01:23:30.479 --> 01:23:34.399
<v Speaker 6>payments and expenses. Maybe an attorney. So they do an

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01:23:34.399 --> 01:23:38.720
<v Speaker 6>agreement outside of the estate saying, if we are what,

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<v Speaker 6>we all agree that if we inherit something, it's going

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<v Speaker 6>to be twenty five percent each.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, Okay. Now, then then.

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<v Speaker 6>They can give the name, they can give the partnership

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01:23:54.039 --> 01:23:55.399
<v Speaker 6>a name, or it can be an LLC.

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<v Speaker 1>Then I would do.

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<v Speaker 6>In Mexico, there are equivalents to what are called beneficiary deeds.

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<v Speaker 1>So you would hire a.

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<v Speaker 6>Very simple, just a very quick thing with an attorney

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01:24:16.960 --> 01:24:20.279
<v Speaker 6>to have a beneficiary deed made out from.

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01:24:20.239 --> 01:24:23.840
<v Speaker 1>Her to the LLC or the partnership. It's that easy.

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01:24:24.520 --> 01:24:28.399
<v Speaker 6>So upon her death it goes directly to the LLC

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01:24:29.079 --> 01:24:31.920
<v Speaker 6>where they agreed to take twenty five percent each. And

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01:24:32.279 --> 01:24:35.000
<v Speaker 6>you also agree to sell the house and blah blah blah, okay,

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01:24:35.760 --> 01:24:37.760
<v Speaker 6>and you agree on how you're going to value.

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01:24:37.520 --> 01:24:39.800
<v Speaker 1>The house and sell it. That's all has to be

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01:24:39.840 --> 01:24:40.640
<v Speaker 1>done by an attorney.

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<v Speaker 6>So in other words, we agree upon death, we're going

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01:24:45.079 --> 01:24:47.439
<v Speaker 6>to this LLC is going to get the house. We're

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01:24:47.520 --> 01:24:50.640
<v Speaker 6>going to have it appraised, maybe three times at the

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01:24:50.720 --> 01:24:53.239
<v Speaker 6>expense of the estate, and we're going to throw out

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01:24:53.239 --> 01:24:55.319
<v Speaker 6>the upper and lower bid and take the middle whatever

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01:24:56.159 --> 01:24:58.760
<v Speaker 6>or estimate or appraisal however they want to do it.

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01:24:59.279 --> 01:25:03.640
<v Speaker 6>And then they sell it and after expenses split the proceeds. Now,

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01:25:04.399 --> 01:25:07.439
<v Speaker 6>so now you have a beneficiaries deed going.

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<v Speaker 8>To the LLC.

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<v Speaker 6>Then in America you do the same thing with each account.

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<v Speaker 6>How many accounts does she have?

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<v Speaker 8>I don't know for sure. She has a couple in

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<v Speaker 8>Costa Rica, yes, and she has several in the States.

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<v Speaker 6>Costa Rica, compl Costa Rica, and Mexico. Again, it complicates

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01:25:28.960 --> 01:25:34.119
<v Speaker 6>things because those countries may not have payable on death certificates.

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01:25:35.039 --> 01:25:37.800
<v Speaker 6>But if she only had American bank accounts, you have

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01:25:37.960 --> 01:25:42.199
<v Speaker 6>the house in Mexico taken care of with the LLC. Now,

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01:25:42.239 --> 01:25:45.399
<v Speaker 6>what you want to do is payable on death certificates

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<v Speaker 6>with the accounts, and if there are only a few accounts,

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<v Speaker 6>five or.

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<v Speaker 1>Ten, you can do payable on death certificates.

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01:25:51.520 --> 01:25:55.199
<v Speaker 6>So here's what happens on death. It doesn't even need

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01:25:55.239 --> 01:25:59.399
<v Speaker 6>a probate. Everything is passed directly to the heirs, the

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01:25:59.479 --> 01:26:02.920
<v Speaker 6>payable on death certificates, and the beneficiary deed goes to

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<v Speaker 6>the LLC, and they've already agreed to split it up.

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<v Speaker 6>I mean, it's really ultimately simple. Not all attorneys will

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01:26:11.560 --> 01:26:14.119
<v Speaker 6>agree to it because they want to charge you more.

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01:26:15.479 --> 01:26:18.640
<v Speaker 6>But I've told you what I would do, and you

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01:26:18.800 --> 01:26:22.159
<v Speaker 6>try to find an attorney who would facilitate it unless

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01:26:22.199 --> 01:26:23.600
<v Speaker 6>there's a legal reason not to.

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<v Speaker 1>There might be rules I don't know about.

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<v Speaker 6>For example, maybe the maybe the beneficiary deed in Mexico

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01:26:31.119 --> 01:26:32.640
<v Speaker 6>won't allow for a transfer.

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01:26:33.560 --> 01:26:37.039
<v Speaker 1>Maybe I don't know. But that's what I would do,

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<v Speaker 1>and we're going to get in it should be.

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<v Speaker 6>question about a multi country estate and we're getting Dan

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<v Speaker 6>on after one. So Daryl, we're gonna call you back. Okay, Bro,

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<v Speaker 6>that's the way it's going to have to work right now.

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<v Speaker 1>But we will get you on because even though I

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<v Speaker 1>gave you some do it yourself suggestions that I would do,

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01:28:28.560 --> 01:28:30.399
<v Speaker 1>I still want to run a buyer our to our

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<v Speaker 1>state planning attorney.

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<v Speaker 6>So we have Deputy d has some follow ups. Now,

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01:28:35.600 --> 01:28:38.279
<v Speaker 6>the last follow up he did. Remember it's about.

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<v Speaker 1>Uh that dang.

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<v Speaker 6>A nineteen eighty five dodge Ram toad okay was towed

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<v Speaker 6>from a private apartment complex and the apartment complex did

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01:28:50.479 --> 01:28:54.000
<v Speaker 6>not request the toe. No one requested it, no one

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01:28:54.079 --> 01:28:57.079
<v Speaker 6>offered a twenty four hour notice, no one did anything legally.

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<v Speaker 6>It was snagged and it was brought to a private lot.

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01:29:00.760 --> 01:29:04.600
<v Speaker 6>Here's what's weird. No one knows who did that. So

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01:29:04.720 --> 01:29:07.960
<v Speaker 6>it gets to a private lot, and then APT Towing

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01:29:08.359 --> 01:29:09.760
<v Speaker 6>towes it from a private lot.

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<v Speaker 1>Again, we don't know if APT did it legally.

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<v Speaker 6>I mean, obviously if it was towed there and dropped,

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01:29:18.000 --> 01:29:20.399
<v Speaker 6>it was illegal because the owner didn't do it. But

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01:29:20.680 --> 01:29:23.199
<v Speaker 6>what I mean is did APT even attempt to do

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01:29:23.319 --> 01:29:26.119
<v Speaker 6>what's required with a twenty four hour notice to the

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01:29:26.439 --> 01:29:29.279
<v Speaker 6>registration holder? And then once they got it and the

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01:29:29.359 --> 01:29:30.920
<v Speaker 6>registration holder found out.

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<v Speaker 1>About it, why.

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<v Speaker 6>Did they not offer them finance arrangements as required by law.

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01:29:38.159 --> 01:29:41.159
<v Speaker 6>APT wouldn't answer these questions. They hung up on us twice.

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01:29:41.680 --> 01:29:46.520
<v Speaker 6>APT cannot charge two grand and say pay it or else.

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01:29:46.880 --> 01:29:50.399
<v Speaker 6>They have to offer a financing arrangement. That's part of

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01:29:50.439 --> 01:29:53.520
<v Speaker 6>the new towing law. They also have to allow certain things.

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<v Speaker 6>And we don't think they're doing anything. But there's nothing

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01:29:56.800 --> 01:29:58.800
<v Speaker 6>new on that one, right, No.

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<v Speaker 1>There's nothing new in that.

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<v Speaker 3>I did contact the PUC Press relations department. I left

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01:30:03.159 --> 01:30:05.000
<v Speaker 3>a voicemail for the lady and I just sent her

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01:30:05.000 --> 01:30:07.560
<v Speaker 3>an email and I told her this is really I

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01:30:07.720 --> 01:30:09.960
<v Speaker 3>humbly asked her to call right away because this is

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01:30:10.000 --> 01:30:13.600
<v Speaker 3>a very urgent issue. This vehicle is about to be sold.

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01:30:14.159 --> 01:30:17.079
<v Speaker 3>But Tom, the thing is, that's not your usual run

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01:30:17.159 --> 01:30:20.640
<v Speaker 3>of the mill used vehicle. This is a nineteen eighty

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01:30:20.680 --> 01:30:24.199
<v Speaker 3>five Dodge Ram. It's a valuable, valuable truck. How valuable

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01:30:24.279 --> 01:30:25.680
<v Speaker 3>between twenty and thirty thousand?

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01:30:25.800 --> 01:30:26.079
<v Speaker 8>Come on?

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01:30:26.399 --> 01:30:26.600
<v Speaker 1>Why?

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01:30:26.920 --> 01:30:27.119
<v Speaker 8>Yeah?

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01:30:27.319 --> 01:30:29.319
<v Speaker 1>Why now? Our call or Crystal did say they were

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01:30:29.359 --> 01:30:32.680
<v Speaker 1>planning to restore it. Yeah, but it's not worth in

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01:30:32.800 --> 01:30:35.800
<v Speaker 1>that condition? Is it worth? Is it worth that much

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01:30:35.880 --> 01:30:36.560
<v Speaker 1>in that condition?

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01:30:36.760 --> 01:30:36.880
<v Speaker 8>Well?

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01:30:37.159 --> 01:30:39.319
<v Speaker 3>I don't know what condition this vehicle is and now,

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01:30:39.760 --> 01:30:43.119
<v Speaker 3>but the point is if when it's good condition, it

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01:30:43.319 --> 01:30:45.880
<v Speaker 3>sells for twenty to thirty thousand, then it's got a

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01:30:45.960 --> 01:30:47.439
<v Speaker 3>half significant value right.

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01:30:47.399 --> 01:30:49.319
<v Speaker 1>Now is a restoration project.

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01:30:49.760 --> 01:30:52.159
<v Speaker 3>So in any case, even if it's worth fifty bucks,

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01:30:52.239 --> 01:30:54.720
<v Speaker 3>the lady no I need deserves to get her car back.

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01:30:55.239 --> 01:30:57.920
<v Speaker 1>So, waiting for the press relations.

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01:30:57.600 --> 01:31:01.479
<v Speaker 6>It says you're typically on eighty five Dodge RAM one

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01:31:01.640 --> 01:31:07.159
<v Speaker 6>fifty half ton in good condition with average specs is

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01:31:07.479 --> 01:31:12.119
<v Speaker 6>fourteen three sixty seven. The highest price of an eighty

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01:31:12.199 --> 01:31:15.319
<v Speaker 6>five Dodge at an auction over the last three years

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01:31:15.439 --> 01:31:19.760
<v Speaker 6>was twenty thousand, five hundred, So that might be at

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01:31:20.000 --> 01:31:20.560
<v Speaker 6>be you know.

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01:31:20.760 --> 01:31:23.760
<v Speaker 1>Regular restoration, that's right. I mean that's after it's been restored.

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01:31:24.159 --> 01:31:27.119
<v Speaker 6>No, this is before it's been restored. For these prices, Yeah,

1734
01:31:27.159 --> 01:31:32.000
<v Speaker 6>these are regular. These are regular manufactured trucks, not restored.

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01:31:32.319 --> 01:31:32.560
<v Speaker 8>Wow.

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01:31:32.960 --> 01:31:36.479
<v Speaker 1>So twenty grand twenty at an auction twenty thousand, five hundred.

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01:31:36.680 --> 01:31:39.399
<v Speaker 6>So I can understand why if somebody buys that at

1738
01:31:39.399 --> 01:31:42.239
<v Speaker 6>an auction, they's put ten into it, that's thirty then

1739
01:31:42.279 --> 01:31:43.800
<v Speaker 6>they want to get a few grand on top of it.

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01:31:43.960 --> 01:31:45.680
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I can see why people would want to hold

1741
01:31:45.720 --> 01:31:48.520
<v Speaker 3>onto that truck. And I think that might explain why

1742
01:31:48.760 --> 01:31:51.600
<v Speaker 3>an unmarked tow truck showed up and snagged it out

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01:31:51.600 --> 01:31:52.279
<v Speaker 3>of the parking lot.

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01:31:52.439 --> 01:31:55.760
<v Speaker 1>They stole it. That's that's my that's my assessment of

1745
01:31:55.800 --> 01:31:56.840
<v Speaker 1>the situation in mine too.

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01:31:57.079 --> 01:32:00.479
<v Speaker 3>Now I do have some good updates though, Yeah, if

1747
01:32:01.119 --> 01:32:04.399
<v Speaker 3>go ahead, So you may recall that a couple of

1748
01:32:04.520 --> 01:32:06.399
<v Speaker 3>weeks ago, a lady called us.

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01:32:06.399 --> 01:32:07.119
<v Speaker 1>Because of her.

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01:32:07.840 --> 01:32:09.800
<v Speaker 3>Let me see here, I'm just looking for this. Do

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01:32:09.840 --> 01:32:12.640
<v Speaker 3>you remember the lady who called because of her? Her

1752
01:32:12.720 --> 01:32:17.560
<v Speaker 3>name was Raylen, and her buick was at the dealership

1753
01:32:17.800 --> 01:32:21.319
<v Speaker 3>and the part that it needed was a transmission computer

1754
01:32:21.479 --> 01:32:22.960
<v Speaker 3>basically TCM, and.

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01:32:23.079 --> 01:32:25.239
<v Speaker 6>It was on a very long back twenty twenty one

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01:32:26.079 --> 01:32:28.479
<v Speaker 6>Envision and it was that AutoNation.

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01:32:28.720 --> 01:32:31.319
<v Speaker 1>And they kept giving her a loaner car.

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01:32:31.800 --> 01:32:34.600
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, and she was afraid that that would run out

1759
01:32:34.680 --> 01:32:37.039
<v Speaker 6>that benefit and then she'd have to start paying for

1760
01:32:37.119 --> 01:32:37.560
<v Speaker 6>the loaner.

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01:32:37.960 --> 01:32:39.880
<v Speaker 1>And then she was also afraid she was never going

1762
01:32:39.960 --> 01:32:40.520
<v Speaker 1>to get the part.

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01:32:41.279 --> 01:32:44.079
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, the lady, the lady definitely needed help. She you know,

1764
01:32:44.239 --> 01:32:47.359
<v Speaker 3>she has some acknowledged she acknowledged on the air. I

1765
01:32:47.439 --> 01:32:49.279
<v Speaker 3>believe that she has some anxiety.

1766
01:32:49.279 --> 01:32:50.199
<v Speaker 1>And medical treatment.

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01:32:50.239 --> 01:32:52.319
<v Speaker 3>She needed a so and so she had a very

1768
01:32:52.359 --> 01:32:54.279
<v Speaker 3>difficult time dealing with it, and she was afraid that

1769
01:32:54.439 --> 01:32:56.640
<v Speaker 3>she was going to run out of the loaner, and

1770
01:32:56.760 --> 01:32:59.800
<v Speaker 3>at one point the dealer's credit card did run out

1771
01:32:59.840 --> 01:33:03.800
<v Speaker 3>of or their credit ran out at the rental company. Anyway,

1772
01:33:04.239 --> 01:33:07.680
<v Speaker 3>long story short, yesterday I had a great conversation with

1773
01:33:07.880 --> 01:33:10.960
<v Speaker 3>AutoNation Buick GMC West. It's all the way over there

1774
01:33:11.000 --> 01:33:13.560
<v Speaker 3>in West Colfax, kind of like where Lakewood becomes Golden,

1775
01:33:14.159 --> 01:33:16.760
<v Speaker 3>And I spoke with a very well informed gentleman in

1776
01:33:16.800 --> 01:33:19.560
<v Speaker 3>the same they have the car, they have the car,

1777
01:33:20.000 --> 01:33:23.199
<v Speaker 3>they stand ready to repair it under a Buick's warranty.

1778
01:33:23.760 --> 01:33:27.359
<v Speaker 3>And he said that just before it sounds like maybe

1779
01:33:27.359 --> 01:33:31.600
<v Speaker 3>a day or so before I called AutoNation Buick, they

1780
01:33:31.720 --> 01:33:34.960
<v Speaker 3>got a notification from GM saying, Hey, the part is

1781
01:33:35.039 --> 01:33:35.880
<v Speaker 3>going to be shipped.

1782
01:33:35.920 --> 01:33:36.960
<v Speaker 1>It's going to be available.

1783
01:33:36.960 --> 01:33:40.159
<v Speaker 3>It's going to be shipped in early February, which, as

1784
01:33:40.199 --> 01:33:42.680
<v Speaker 3>you know, is coming right up. So the gentleman at

1785
01:33:42.680 --> 01:33:46.800
<v Speaker 3>AutoNation assured me that I can tell Raylen that not

1786
01:33:46.960 --> 01:33:49.760
<v Speaker 3>only will the part be here, they're going to install it,

1787
01:33:49.800 --> 01:33:51.560
<v Speaker 3>they're going to fix her car, and they're going to

1788
01:33:51.600 --> 01:33:55.319
<v Speaker 3>continue to pay for her rental car until her car

1789
01:33:55.520 --> 01:33:58.279
<v Speaker 3>is fixed and ready to go. And I called Raylen

1790
01:33:58.399 --> 01:34:01.000
<v Speaker 3>told her the story. She was very leave she you know,

1791
01:34:01.159 --> 01:34:04.359
<v Speaker 3>she bursts into tears, kind of tears of you know,

1792
01:34:04.640 --> 01:34:08.079
<v Speaker 3>half I suppose. And so so I thought that was

1793
01:34:08.159 --> 01:34:11.760
<v Speaker 3>a really good resolution. And yeah, that's wonderful. Very impressed

1794
01:34:11.800 --> 01:34:14.640
<v Speaker 3>with how Automation b at GMC is handling this deal.

1795
01:34:14.960 --> 01:34:17.239
<v Speaker 3>He did explain to me that the dealership itself is

1796
01:34:17.319 --> 01:34:19.399
<v Speaker 3>paying for the rental car and has been paying for it.

1797
01:34:19.760 --> 01:34:22.800
<v Speaker 3>They hope to get reimbursed by GM, but still, what

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01:34:22.920 --> 01:34:24.680
<v Speaker 3>a you know, it's it's very nice of them to

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01:34:24.760 --> 01:34:25.199
<v Speaker 3>take care of it.

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01:34:25.279 --> 01:34:27.079
<v Speaker 1>It's totally nice. It's wonderful.

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01:34:27.880 --> 01:34:30.680
<v Speaker 6>So that's that's the update on all right you three

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01:34:30.760 --> 01:34:32.800
<v Speaker 6>oh three seven one three talks seven one three eight

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01:34:32.880 --> 01:34:36.760
<v Speaker 6>two five five Jordaniano, back to that question, I'm getting

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01:34:36.800 --> 01:34:40.079
<v Speaker 6>a text Tom. You asked about what would a typical

1805
01:34:40.199 --> 01:34:43.399
<v Speaker 6>rate of return? How much did it make over the

1806
01:34:43.439 --> 01:34:45.319
<v Speaker 6>past three years? Now, again, I want to make a

1807
01:34:45.359 --> 01:34:49.319
<v Speaker 6>few things clear. The rates of return, Jordan, This is

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01:34:49.359 --> 01:34:51.039
<v Speaker 6>something I want to ask before you tell me. Then

1809
01:34:52.399 --> 01:34:54.880
<v Speaker 6>you say, each one is different depending on their anniversary date,

1810
01:34:54.960 --> 01:34:57.479
<v Speaker 6>depending on how much they invested, depending on blah blah blah.

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01:34:57.880 --> 01:35:01.720
<v Speaker 6>But what I want to know is this, Well, yeah,

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01:35:02.000 --> 01:35:05.119
<v Speaker 6>so when you have an annuity, though, what good and

1813
01:35:05.199 --> 01:35:07.880
<v Speaker 6>I mean this sincerely, what good is the rate of return?

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01:35:08.720 --> 01:35:08.960
<v Speaker 11>Do you?

1815
01:35:09.399 --> 01:35:10.119
<v Speaker 1>What I mean is this?

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01:35:10.439 --> 01:35:12.600
<v Speaker 6>Let me ask that a better way if you get

1817
01:35:12.600 --> 01:35:15.119
<v Speaker 6>a higher rate of return during its life or a

1818
01:35:15.239 --> 01:35:17.800
<v Speaker 6>lower return. Let's say you pick a five year waiting

1819
01:35:17.880 --> 01:35:20.800
<v Speaker 6>period or a ten year waiting period or a thirty

1820
01:35:20.880 --> 01:35:24.000
<v Speaker 6>year whatever, whatever the investor wants, or they're going to

1821
01:35:24.039 --> 01:35:29.319
<v Speaker 6>do it instantly. But the income is decided on the

1822
01:35:29.479 --> 01:35:34.520
<v Speaker 6>day of conversion to income right, not before correct.

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01:35:34.640 --> 01:35:37.680
<v Speaker 9>So to your point, there's you give them.

1824
01:35:37.600 --> 01:35:39.399
<v Speaker 1>An you give them an estimate.

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01:35:39.920 --> 01:35:42.239
<v Speaker 6>You give them an estimate when they buy the annuity,

1826
01:35:42.520 --> 01:35:44.800
<v Speaker 6>so they put one hundred and fifty or two hundred

1827
01:35:44.800 --> 01:35:46.479
<v Speaker 6>grand in, you give them an estimate.

1828
01:35:46.720 --> 01:35:50.520
<v Speaker 1>But what actually determines the actual income?

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01:35:51.600 --> 01:35:54.640
<v Speaker 9>Yeah, so there's two counts. There's one that's tied to

1830
01:35:54.680 --> 01:35:57.279
<v Speaker 9>the market to your point, and that's the estimate side.

1831
01:35:57.319 --> 01:35:59.560
<v Speaker 9>It just uses the history and kind of gives an

1832
01:35:59.600 --> 01:36:01.359
<v Speaker 9>idea of what he could be like. And then there's

1833
01:36:01.439 --> 01:36:04.520
<v Speaker 9>been guaranteed side, which steps up you're a four and

1834
01:36:04.560 --> 01:36:06.359
<v Speaker 9>a half five percent on how old they are, and

1835
01:36:06.399 --> 01:36:09.279
<v Speaker 9>it steps up a half percent every every five years

1836
01:36:09.319 --> 01:36:11.520
<v Speaker 9>on the lifeline. So seventy seventy five.

1837
01:36:11.840 --> 01:36:13.560
<v Speaker 1>So the point is this, which one do they get?

1838
01:36:14.000 --> 01:36:15.520
<v Speaker 1>Which one do they get the two?

1839
01:36:15.680 --> 01:36:17.000
<v Speaker 5>Whichever is higher the two.

1840
01:36:17.079 --> 01:36:18.279
<v Speaker 9>What if they turn the money.

1841
01:36:18.079 --> 01:36:20.600
<v Speaker 6>So whichever is higher at the time they turn it

1842
01:36:20.680 --> 01:36:23.560
<v Speaker 6>into income is to new it tize that that amount

1843
01:36:24.680 --> 01:36:25.079
<v Speaker 6>you got it?

1844
01:36:25.159 --> 01:36:26.439
<v Speaker 1>Okay, we got more coming up.

1845
01:36:26.479 --> 01:36:28.800
<v Speaker 6>Now I'm going to ask what are some typical returns

1846
01:36:28.840 --> 01:36:36.399
<v Speaker 6>you've guys have been seeing? Right after this, go with

1847
01:36:36.479 --> 01:36:39.920
<v Speaker 6>a sure thing Denver's Best roofer Excel roofing dot com.

1848
01:36:40.119 --> 01:36:45.800
<v Speaker 6>You don't pay a cent until you're contents. Time for

1849
01:36:45.880 --> 01:36:49.600
<v Speaker 6>an insurance check up free no obligation comparison call Compass

1850
01:36:49.680 --> 01:36:52.920
<v Speaker 6>Insurance paying too much your coverage at dozens of insurance

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01:36:52.960 --> 01:36:55.439
<v Speaker 6>companies find out now three o three seven to seven

1852
01:36:55.439 --> 01:36:58.199
<v Speaker 6>to one help. You'll think you're his only customer when

1853
01:36:58.239 --> 01:37:00.800
<v Speaker 6>you choose Frank durand the real estate Man dot to

1854
01:37:00.920 --> 01:37:04.119
<v Speaker 6>list your home with Remax Alliance three oh three nine

1855
01:37:04.159 --> 01:37:05.640
<v Speaker 6>two zero sixteen twenty two.

1856
01:37:09.239 --> 01:37:13.560
<v Speaker 1>Hey, I'm Tom Martine. You're troubleshooter three oh three seven

1857
01:37:13.600 --> 01:37:15.880
<v Speaker 1>one three talk three oh three seven one three eight

1858
01:37:15.960 --> 01:37:18.199
<v Speaker 1>two five five. So what's going on?

1859
01:37:18.840 --> 01:37:20.319
<v Speaker 6>How can we help you? We got a lot to

1860
01:37:20.399 --> 01:37:25.479
<v Speaker 6>talk about and on the annuity Jordan, I want to

1861
01:37:25.600 --> 01:37:27.880
<v Speaker 6>I want to ask again. Here's the way it works.

1862
01:37:27.920 --> 01:37:29.960
<v Speaker 6>You put a lump sum or you bank payments into

1863
01:37:30.000 --> 01:37:33.640
<v Speaker 6>an annuity. You get a guaranteed return. You get two accounts.

1864
01:37:33.680 --> 01:37:37.640
<v Speaker 6>One is a guarantee growth at a conservative rate, and

1865
01:37:37.720 --> 01:37:38.159
<v Speaker 6>then you have.

1866
01:37:40.359 --> 01:37:40.880
<v Speaker 1>An S and P.

1867
01:37:41.119 --> 01:37:43.600
<v Speaker 6>Well, you know, a margin account. It doesn't excuse me,

1868
01:37:44.600 --> 01:37:48.560
<v Speaker 6>a benchmark account. It doesn't under an indexed account, and

1869
01:37:48.680 --> 01:37:52.760
<v Speaker 6>it goes according to certain things in the stock market,

1870
01:37:53.840 --> 01:37:56.760
<v Speaker 6>but it is not trading stocks. It just is an

1871
01:37:56.800 --> 01:38:01.119
<v Speaker 6>index and this index fund guarantees that return and then

1872
01:38:03.039 --> 01:38:05.279
<v Speaker 6>you get the higher of the two at the time

1873
01:38:05.399 --> 01:38:07.399
<v Speaker 6>you annuitize it and turn it into income.

1874
01:38:08.199 --> 01:38:11.199
<v Speaker 1>But what we want to know is what has been

1875
01:38:11.640 --> 01:38:13.760
<v Speaker 1>the bigger of the two accounts, Let's say, in the

1876
01:38:13.840 --> 01:38:16.640
<v Speaker 1>last three years, if you can pick one and tell.

1877
01:38:16.520 --> 01:38:21.880
<v Speaker 9>Us, yeah, so really looking at three years having either

1878
01:38:21.960 --> 01:38:23.520
<v Speaker 9>side and that kind of ran some examples here too,

1879
01:38:23.520 --> 01:38:25.800
<v Speaker 9>if we want to talk about real numbers, But looking

1880
01:38:25.840 --> 01:38:29.840
<v Speaker 9>at this, you're going to have really about fourteen to

1881
01:38:30.680 --> 01:38:33.359
<v Speaker 9>sixteen seventy percent on the market index side based off

1882
01:38:33.399 --> 01:38:35.960
<v Speaker 9>of the last three years, you know, and this is

1883
01:38:36.000 --> 01:38:36.880
<v Speaker 9>again history.

1884
01:38:36.720 --> 01:38:41.840
<v Speaker 1>Then really really yeah, okays, the guarantee side, so it's about.

1885
01:38:41.720 --> 01:38:44.239
<v Speaker 6>It's about it's about half of the S and P,

1886
01:38:45.199 --> 01:38:49.560
<v Speaker 6>which is okay, And that's for someone older who wants

1887
01:38:49.640 --> 01:38:52.239
<v Speaker 6>less risk. Of course, because the S and P hasn't

1888
01:38:52.239 --> 01:38:54.600
<v Speaker 6>always been doing this great, it could be lower, all right,

1889
01:38:54.760 --> 01:38:55.279
<v Speaker 6>So then.

1890
01:38:56.640 --> 01:38:58.920
<v Speaker 1>That's good to know. And then the guarantees were what

1891
01:38:59.039 --> 01:38:59.600
<v Speaker 1>about six and.

1892
01:38:59.600 --> 01:39:03.960
<v Speaker 9>A half, So look at that dollar amount. The guarantees

1893
01:39:04.119 --> 01:39:06.159
<v Speaker 9>put you up to about twenty two percent, about twenty

1894
01:39:06.159 --> 01:39:08.000
<v Speaker 9>two and a half, you know. So they give you

1895
01:39:08.039 --> 01:39:10.359
<v Speaker 9>the guaranteed on this example, which would be higher.

1896
01:39:10.640 --> 01:39:12.760
<v Speaker 6>Wait wait wait wait, wait, wait wait wait, but they

1897
01:39:12.800 --> 01:39:13.800
<v Speaker 6>don't add them together.

1898
01:39:15.760 --> 01:39:16.399
<v Speaker 9>I say that again.

1899
01:39:16.439 --> 01:39:21.840
<v Speaker 1>Sorry, you don't add the guarantee along with the index part,

1900
01:39:21.960 --> 01:39:22.159
<v Speaker 1>do you.

1901
01:39:23.319 --> 01:39:26.520
<v Speaker 9>No, So there are two accounts. The index side is

1902
01:39:26.800 --> 01:39:28.720
<v Speaker 9>going to go truly off the S and P five hundred,

1903
01:39:28.960 --> 01:39:31.199
<v Speaker 9>that's the one that's crea on that fourteen to sixteen percent.

1904
01:39:31.640 --> 01:39:35.000
<v Speaker 9>The guaranteed side also starts with the same dollar amount

1905
01:39:35.000 --> 01:39:36.479
<v Speaker 9>that you start with in the beginning, and it just

1906
01:39:36.640 --> 01:39:38.920
<v Speaker 9>ratches up guarantee every single year, no matter what.

1907
01:39:39.199 --> 01:39:43.359
<v Speaker 5>Nothing to do with the market, right, And so that's right, okay,

1908
01:39:43.439 --> 01:39:43.680
<v Speaker 5>got it.

1909
01:39:43.800 --> 01:39:45.479
<v Speaker 1>They give you then at the end.

1910
01:39:45.720 --> 01:39:47.239
<v Speaker 6>At the end, when you're going to a new ad

1911
01:39:47.279 --> 01:39:50.760
<v Speaker 6>tize it. It's it turns into income based on the

1912
01:39:50.840 --> 01:39:51.439
<v Speaker 6>higher amount.

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<v Speaker 9>Correct whicheveryone wins the race. That's sort of look at.

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<v Speaker 1>It, Okay, well that's pretty cool. That's pretty cool.

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<v Speaker 6>So I mean, and again what I want to tell

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<v Speaker 6>people again, you know, the stock market goes up, but

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<v Speaker 6>it also goes down. Lately, we've been all spoiled because

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<v Speaker 6>all things have been doing is going up, up, up,

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<v Speaker 6>up up. And you do not participate one hundred percent.

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<v Speaker 6>I do not believe with an annuity in the market.

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<v Speaker 6>But you also have the guaranteed never to lose. But

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<v Speaker 6>so in the last three years that it's been returning

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<v Speaker 6>a damn good amount. But some might say, well, that's

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<v Speaker 6>not what the S and P did. But I want

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<v Speaker 6>to say a couple of things about the S and P.

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<v Speaker 6>And I always talk to people about this, and Jordan,

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<v Speaker 6>you probably realized this. People talk all day long about

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<v Speaker 6>the S and P. But you know, I probably never

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<v Speaker 6>met an investor who simply lets something sit in an

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<v Speaker 6>S and P five hundred indexed account or or an

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<v Speaker 6>EFT exchange or an e ETF I mean exchange traded fun.

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<v Speaker 6>So while people talk about the the S and P

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<v Speaker 6>five hundred all day long, and people very seldom get

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<v Speaker 6>that return in their personal investments.

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<v Speaker 1>Very seldom. You agreed, I agree.

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<v Speaker 9>Yeah, you got to be able to did versify and

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<v Speaker 9>have a little bit of that change.

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<v Speaker 8>And you're right.

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<v Speaker 9>Sometimes people get the timing wrong or timing right, so

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<v Speaker 9>it just depends.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, we got to take a break on, Tom Martine.

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<v Speaker 1>Running's just as fast as you can. Shooter's gonna help

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<v Speaker 1>coming man.

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<v Speaker 4>This is the Troubleshooter Show. No Tom Martine.

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<v Speaker 7>phone number is simple, In fact, it's so simple you

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<v Speaker 7>probably already know it. But it's three oh three Martino.

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<v Speaker 7>As you know, that number works on and off the air.

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<v Speaker 7>You can also email us at any time. It help

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<v Speaker 6>What's going on, Tommy, Yeah, but I'm I'm dealing with

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<v Speaker 6>crap off the air. But hey, when we let me

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<v Speaker 6>just change that picture here for those streaming, I'm sorry guys.

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<v Speaker 1>Anyway, So let's talk about this Mark.

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<v Speaker 6>As far as a question for Jordan, we have somebody

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<v Speaker 6>on the line who has a question. So go ahead,

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<v Speaker 6>let's find out what it's about. Become the banker, Sam,

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<v Speaker 6>go ahead, Yeah.

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<v Speaker 16>Question, when it comes time to retire, are we stuck

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<v Speaker 16>with this company on whatever however rate they use to

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<v Speaker 16>annuitize for our life or can we do a tax

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<v Speaker 16>free change to a different insurance company where we might

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<v Speaker 16>get a better lifetime annuity, you know, in terms of it?

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<v Speaker 10>Well, how long?

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<v Speaker 6>Okay, Okay, hold on, hold on, that's all on the math.

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<v Speaker 6>Let me explain, and maybe Jordan will chime in, or

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<v Speaker 6>Joe Cannell. Here's the deal. When you grow an annuity

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<v Speaker 6>with these guys, or with anyone, you will get the

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<v Speaker 6>hire of whatever account has been indexed to your benefit,

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<v Speaker 6>and that will be annuitized when you want to turn

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<v Speaker 6>it into income.

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<v Speaker 1>If you choose not to annuitize it and.

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<v Speaker 6>You want to take that lump sum and go somewhere else,

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<v Speaker 6>you could theoretically do that. They can't keep your money,

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<v Speaker 6>but you can't turn it into income and do it.

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<v Speaker 6>You have to do it before you turn it into income.

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<v Speaker 6>But I'm going to let them chime in on this.

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<v Speaker 6>I do not believe, and I might be wrong. I

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<v Speaker 6>do not believe that could be mathematically advantageous to you.

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<v Speaker 1>But maybe it could be. Maybe people have done it

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<v Speaker 1>with them.

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<v Speaker 6>I don't know, guys that people come to you with

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<v Speaker 6>an existing annuity that you cashed out and put in

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<v Speaker 6>another one.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, talk about he has a good question. Who

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<v Speaker 1>wants to take this?

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<v Speaker 8>I take it to me, you know, real quickly.

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<v Speaker 15>I'm out of town, not any a financial seminar right now,

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<v Speaker 15>but I'm gonna break and I want to cover that

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<v Speaker 15>with you, and also some of.

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<v Speaker 8>The previous questions.

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<v Speaker 15>If you have time that you ask Jordan, But it

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<v Speaker 15>would not be through a persa's advantage to transfer an

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<v Speaker 15>existing annuity that is already ready to pay an income

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<v Speaker 15>stream and change it to a new one, because see,

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<v Speaker 15>the annuity can have a cost of living increase on

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<v Speaker 15>the income stream if the client wants it, so they

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<v Speaker 15>don't have to be stuck with the same payment for

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<v Speaker 15>the rest of their lives. They can get just like

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<v Speaker 15>Deputy Duck. You know, your deputy has an annuity that

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<v Speaker 15>he gets a percentage increase based on the cost of

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<v Speaker 15>living index every single year and his tickle pink about it.

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<v Speaker 15>So there's a lot of potential. I think clients need

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<v Speaker 15>to be educated about how the annuity really truly works

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<v Speaker 15>and how it compares to a risky, non guaranteed investment

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<v Speaker 15>in the stock market that has no guarantees.

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<v Speaker 1>Does that make sense?

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<v Speaker 6>Here's the butt, Yeah, of course. What other previous questions

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<v Speaker 6>you do want to address.

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<v Speaker 15>Well, you were talking to Jordan about what the SMP

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<v Speaker 15>has done.

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<v Speaker 8>Over the last three or four years.

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<v Speaker 15>Okay, you see the s MP as an index, right,

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<v Speaker 15>and you know, and you explained that quite well. Just

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<v Speaker 15>like any any financial advisor the sells mutual funds or

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<v Speaker 15>stocks or bonds, you know, they don't have a crystal

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<v Speaker 15>ball as to what the SMP or any investment. I

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<v Speaker 15>don't care who you are. If you're an investor, you

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<v Speaker 15>have asked your ask your financial plattern. Can you guarantee

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<v Speaker 15>me that I never lose my money? What do you

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<v Speaker 15>think they're going to say, tom as if a douciary,

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<v Speaker 15>what would you say to that?

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<v Speaker 5>Can you guarantee people, well, they're not going to.

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<v Speaker 14>Lose their money?

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<v Speaker 1>Of course not, of course not.

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<v Speaker 10>Well.

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<v Speaker 15>The annuity, on the other hand, guarantees that people will

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<v Speaker 15>not lose their principle or their gains. So we're talking

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<v Speaker 15>about two different strategies. Somebody wants really and don't want

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<v Speaker 15>to lose their money potentially, then they should go with

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<v Speaker 15>a broker or a financial advice to stalk some Well.

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<v Speaker 1>Joe, Joe, listen, I agree, I agree with you. I

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<v Speaker 1>agree with you.

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<v Speaker 6>But there's also a time to manage your risk and

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<v Speaker 6>to make smart investments as well. Certainly, I don't think

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<v Speaker 6>a fix indextinuity is for everyone at every stage of

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<v Speaker 6>their life.

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<v Speaker 15>You know, some people get it young and they actually

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<v Speaker 15>even we have we have clients with that buy annuities

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<v Speaker 15>for their grand children.

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<v Speaker 6>Well that's wonderful. Okay, so a lot of people buy things.

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<v Speaker 6>A lot of people buy things. But Joe, if you're

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<v Speaker 6>asking me, do I believe annuities is for everyone at

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<v Speaker 6>every stage in their life?

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<v Speaker 1>My answer is hell, no, it's not. Okay.

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<v Speaker 6>You may think differently, that's fine, we can disagree. You're

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<v Speaker 6>a good man, you have your reasons, but I am

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<v Speaker 6>telling you that to suggest that one investment is good

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<v Speaker 6>for everyone at every stage in their life, in my opinion,

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<v Speaker 6>doesn't hold water.

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<v Speaker 15>I'm not saying that doom. I'm saying that the stock market,

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<v Speaker 15>that's true.

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<v Speaker 1>Not for everyone either, That's exactly right.

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<v Speaker 8>But so that's what the client want.

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<v Speaker 6>One of the black one of the black marks, one

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<v Speaker 6>of the black marks in the stock market. And listen,

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<v Speaker 6>I want to make this very clear. The reason I

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<v Speaker 6>can talk to Joe like this is because I know

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<v Speaker 6>Joe is a good man. I endorse him for a reason,

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<v Speaker 6>and I know what he's done for people. I mean,

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<v Speaker 6>I don't want you to mistake this is some kind

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<v Speaker 6>of disagreement is these are we're discussing philosophies. Sure, but

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<v Speaker 6>I know one of the big black marks in the

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<v Speaker 6>stock market are all of these people who turn and

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<v Speaker 6>churn people's accounts, or these brokerage houses, or these people

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<v Speaker 6>that get these unsuspected investors and slam the hell out

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<v Speaker 6>of them.

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<v Speaker 1>And you're absolutely right. They have major gains in major losses.

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<v Speaker 6>The problem is to make up a loss takes twice

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<v Speaker 6>as long and get a gain, so they.

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<v Speaker 1>End up in the negative. And I said this even

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<v Speaker 1>though the S and P. Five hundred does you.

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<v Speaker 6>Can look at it the last five years, for God's sakes,

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<v Speaker 6>the compound of returns are near fifty eight percent. But

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<v Speaker 6>I don't know one person, not one who's made fifty

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<v Speaker 6>eight percent over the last five years. Because no one

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<v Speaker 6>takes advantage of solid investments. Everyone wants to get rich quick.

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<v Speaker 6>They end up losing money.

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<v Speaker 1>So you're right, I would say.

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<v Speaker 6>Ninety eight percent of the time these jerks in the

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<v Speaker 6>stock market end up losing. And having a smart place

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<v Speaker 6>dinnuity even for someone younger, could be wiser, but it's

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<v Speaker 6>not wiser because of the product as much as it

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<v Speaker 6>is wiser because of the other stupid decisions they make.

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<v Speaker 1>That's the point I'm making, and you're right.

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<v Speaker 15>And it's also wiser to choose the right financial planner,

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<v Speaker 15>one who's at they call educate it and with experienced them.

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<v Speaker 15>In our firm, we got, of course, years of financial

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<v Speaker 15>planning experience, so we represented the stock market before I

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<v Speaker 15>had all my licenses.

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<v Speaker 8>I was a stalk broker.

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<v Speaker 1>I get it.

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<v Speaker 8>I couldn't.

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<v Speaker 1>I could get it. I couldn't.

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<v Speaker 15>I couldn't bear the pain on people's eyes and faces

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<v Speaker 15>when they take to retire and they didn't have the

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<v Speaker 15>money that they were hoping to have. Yet, an annuity

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<v Speaker 15>is guaranteed not to lose the principle that you put

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<v Speaker 15>in or the games, and they're going to get in.

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<v Speaker 8>I get that.

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<v Speaker 15>Indeed, inca for lifetom. So we're talking about night day.

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<v Speaker 6>But because here's the problem, because there are a lot

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<v Speaker 6>of idiots out there who call themselves financial advisors that

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<v Speaker 6>in my opinion and again and again, I have a

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<v Speaker 6>vested interest here. Everyone knows Joe that I started Wave

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<v Speaker 6>Wealth Management, and I'm not trying to compete with you

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<v Speaker 6>at all because I tell people, go call Joe, you

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<v Speaker 6>need an annuity.

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<v Speaker 1>I tell them, and I have no problem with that.

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<v Speaker 6>But what I'm saying is this, to suggest an annuity

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<v Speaker 6>is a product, a preferred product because everyone or most

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<v Speaker 6>everyone advising them in the stock market are idiots, does

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<v Speaker 6>not make the stock market the idiot. It doesn't make

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<v Speaker 6>the investor the idiot. It makes the financial advisor an

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<v Speaker 6>idiot because they're charging for assets under management and they

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<v Speaker 6>don't give a goddamn what happens to the returns, And

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<v Speaker 6>that's the problem. They churn and move people or they

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<v Speaker 6>don't even know their investor. Joe and Jordan get to

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<v Speaker 6>know everyone and then they make suggestions based on their

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<v Speaker 6>individual circumstances. We're both in agreement, Joe. I'm simply saying

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<v Speaker 6>that when you say you believe a fixed indestinuity can

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<v Speaker 6>benefit everyone, the reason is because there are a bunch

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<v Speaker 6>of idiots out there advising those people.

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<v Speaker 15>That's why, Well, you know, Tom, There's only one thing

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<v Speaker 15>I want to say, and that is, you know, if

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<v Speaker 15>you really have come face to face with a client

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<v Speaker 15>and ask them one simple question, how much money can

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<v Speaker 15>you afford to lose? What do you think that they

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<v Speaker 15>will say? Can they say I Joe one hundred thousand

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<v Speaker 15>or two hundred thousand. Okay, be my gifts go with

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<v Speaker 15>the stock market, but if.

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<v Speaker 1>They cannot loose a single parent, you're assuming.

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<v Speaker 6>You're assuming every time someone goes with a stock market,

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<v Speaker 6>they're taking major risks with major losses.

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<v Speaker 1>And I am telling you that doesn't have to happen.

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<v Speaker 2>Now.

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<v Speaker 1>No one can guarantee a return ever, but you can

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<v Speaker 1>guarantee that you're not going to be churning people. That

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<v Speaker 1>those are the ones that get hurt. If someone truly

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<v Speaker 1>went by.

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<v Speaker 6>Themselves into an S and P five hundred exchange traded

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<v Speaker 6>fund and ETF, they would truly get the return that

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<v Speaker 6>the S and P did. They would truly get it.

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<v Speaker 6>I mean, it wouldn't be it wouldn't be a joke.

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<v Speaker 6>It would actually happen. But no one does it. That's

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<v Speaker 6>the problem.

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<v Speaker 1>No one does it.

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<v Speaker 6>So to suggest that they should buy an annuity because

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<v Speaker 6>everyone else is an idiot doesn't hold water. Because I

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<v Speaker 6>am saying that there is a time to have an annuity,

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<v Speaker 6>but it's not every time. I'm sorry, Okay, I don't

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<v Speaker 6>think it's every time. I think it's much of the time, but.

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<v Speaker 1>Not every time.

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<v Speaker 6>Because I have faith that there are people who can

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<v Speaker 6>do investing the right way.

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<v Speaker 1>That's all I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 6>And I think you're talking about the stock market in

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<v Speaker 6>a way that you should be talking about the people

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<v Speaker 6>who invest their money and lose them tons of money.

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<v Speaker 1>Again, I want to.

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<v Speaker 6>Make it very clear, Joe wouldn't be on the show

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<v Speaker 6>if I didn't believe in fixed indextinuities.

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<v Speaker 1>And I think there's a time and place for it.

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<v Speaker 1>I do truly believe that we have more coming up.

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<v Speaker 6>oh three nine two zero sixteen twenty two. Hi Tom Martino,

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<v Speaker 6>you're a troubleshooter. Three o three seven one three talk

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<v Speaker 6>seven one three eight two five five.

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to the show.

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<v Speaker 6>Here to help you solve problems, answer questions, and take

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<v Speaker 6>complaints and make your life just.

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<v Speaker 1>A little easier.

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<v Speaker 6>So let's talk about some of the uh things in

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<v Speaker 6>the news that we should be talking about.

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<v Speaker 1>Some stuff going on. And here's the thing. A lot

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<v Speaker 1>of people say that they don't see inflation coming down

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<v Speaker 1>anytime soon.

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<v Speaker 6>And this is going to be one of the biggest

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<v Speaker 6>challenges of the presidency. Again not political. They just don't think. Now,

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<v Speaker 6>I don't know what's happening, but that is the bottom

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<v Speaker 6>line with concerns.

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<v Speaker 1>I have hope.

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<v Speaker 6>Who knows, I think so far, it's too soon to tell.

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<v Speaker 6>Now this is really important. Dan Caplis loves talking about

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<v Speaker 6>legalization of marijuana and house destroying our nation and our state.

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<v Speaker 1>And he's right. I mean, I don't know if it's destroying,

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<v Speaker 1>but I will tell you this.

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<v Speaker 6>There has the largest ever study done on cannabis and

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<v Speaker 6>brain function, by the way, done right here, part of

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<v Speaker 6>it right here in Colorado by UCEE Health and it

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<v Speaker 6>was published in JAMA the Journal of American Medicine or

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<v Speaker 6>something like that.

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<v Speaker 1>Now listen to this.

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<v Speaker 6>They found that regular use of cannabis products of any

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<v Speaker 6>kind the largest study of its kind ever by using

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<v Speaker 6>more than one thousand adults ages twenty two to thirty

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<v Speaker 6>six years old using brain imagery. It found that sixty

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<v Speaker 6>three percent of these people had impaired memory and impaired

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<v Speaker 6>cognitive ability. And then it says so that was so,

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<v Speaker 6>and also sixty eight percent, sixty eight percent of them

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<v Speaker 6>had other problems with their brain. Now, I'm not telling

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<v Speaker 6>you don't smoke dop. I'm not here moralizing. I'm just

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<v Speaker 6>telling you this is a major study. By the way,

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<v Speaker 6>you see at hand Shoots, the medical campus did this.

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<v Speaker 6>That was they were part of it, you see, health

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<v Speaker 6>and they did a long, long study. Think about that,

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<v Speaker 6>a thousand young adults, thousand brain imaging, chemistry, blood everything,

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<v Speaker 6>questionnaires and if you want to get into it, you

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<v Speaker 6>can look it up online. In fact, you can go

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<v Speaker 6>to news dot cun Shoots dot edu look it up.

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<v Speaker 6>So basically, they're saying that it does have an effect

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<v Speaker 6>on our brain function. You know, once years ago, I remember,

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<v Speaker 6>I might have been in my fifties, late fifties, maybe

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<v Speaker 6>early sixty. Iway, I challenged potsmokers of any age, young

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<v Speaker 6>the younger the better to a game against me. Now,

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<v Speaker 6>they didn't even have to be high at the time

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<v Speaker 6>they could if they wanted to be, but to come

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<v Speaker 6>into the studio and to have a game, several games

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<v Speaker 6>of reactions.

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<v Speaker 1>To me, do you know what reactionary games are?

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<v Speaker 6>Like hot hands, press the buzzers, when you see a color,

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<v Speaker 6>all kinds of stuff, reaction games.

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<v Speaker 1>That's all just reaction.

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<v Speaker 6>And it takes a cognitive ability, and then it takes

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<v Speaker 6>a motor skill memory and well not memory, but motor skill.

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<v Speaker 1>What do they call eye hand coordination?

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<v Speaker 8>Right?

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, so I had some young whipper snappers, Mark, do

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<v Speaker 1>you remember this at all? I I don't remember that.

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<v Speaker 6>Okay, we had some young Oh we had another one

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<v Speaker 6>that was funny. Well, we had some young whipper snappers

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<v Speaker 6>come in and I beat the hell out of them.

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<v Speaker 6>Every single time. The kids in their twenties thought, oh,

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<v Speaker 6>then this old guy bam bam, bam bam. They couldn't

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<v Speaker 6>even come close to me. Now, I won't even talk

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<v Speaker 6>about thumb wrestling because that's not hand eye coordination.

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<v Speaker 1>That's just I'm an expert.

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<v Speaker 6>But in any case, we did hot hands, and we

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<v Speaker 6>did other kinds of buzzer games and computer stuff, and

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<v Speaker 6>they couldn't come close. Now was it because the pot

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<v Speaker 6>they all identified themselves of heavy pot smokers, so I

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<v Speaker 6>don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>It was a fun thing we did.

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<v Speaker 6>Then we did another one one time because I was

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<v Speaker 6>so sick and tired of people saying, you go to

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<v Speaker 6>a doctor certain doctors, And I don't want to make

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<v Speaker 6>fun of people, because again I don't like making fun

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<v Speaker 6>of people's.

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<v Speaker 1>Beliefs and philosophies.

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<v Speaker 6>But if you heard of where they hold They have

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<v Speaker 6>vitamins in a vial and you hold it in your

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<v Speaker 6>hand and they do the muscle testing, so they push

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<v Speaker 6>down on your arms. Now obviously they ah, God, it's

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<v Speaker 6>to me, it's like the Wigi board. You can make

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<v Speaker 6>that Wigi board go anywhere you want with a bunch

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<v Speaker 6>of friends, and it seems like it's vibrating on its own.

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<v Speaker 1>Here's the bottom line.

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<v Speaker 6>The same with a pendulum on a string, whether it

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<v Speaker 6>goes back and forth or in a circle, you are

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<v Speaker 6>doing that psychologically on your own.

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<v Speaker 1>You don't think you are, but you are.

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<v Speaker 8>Well.

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<v Speaker 6>I believe the same thing with these You hold the

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<v Speaker 6>vitem into your hand and they do a muscle test,

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<v Speaker 6>and the one that's supposed to be good for you

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<v Speaker 6>you'll be strong, and the one that's bad for you

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<v Speaker 6>you don't need, you'll be weak, and then the one

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<v Speaker 6>that you don't need probably won't do much. So I

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<v Speaker 6>one time challenge somebody to this check. I said, I

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<v Speaker 6>want you to do it in the studio. I want

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<v Speaker 6>you to do it with people in the studio, and

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<v Speaker 6>I want you to see if you can do it

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<v Speaker 6>consistently with the same people in the same studio, including yourself.

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<v Speaker 1>Only one thing I don't want you to know. I

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<v Speaker 1>want to be the.

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<v Speaker 6>Only one who knows what's in the vials, because when

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<v Speaker 6>a do they call that applied tenesiology or whatever they

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<v Speaker 6>call this, I don't know what they call muscle testing.

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<v Speaker 6>So whenever they would take something that was bad, like

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<v Speaker 6>tobacco in a tin little tin screw on those little

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<v Speaker 6>film vials or whatever, I don't know, I call them film.

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<v Speaker 6>They're supposed to be a little you know, something that

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<v Speaker 6>holds the substance. So it's either vitamin C, B E.

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<v Speaker 6>It could be cannabis, it could be tobacco, it could

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<v Speaker 6>be anything. It could be mercury, it could be and

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<v Speaker 6>then you hold it and you do a certain muscle test.

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<v Speaker 6>It is my belief that the practitioner doing this test

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<v Speaker 6>psychologically will press harder or softer, depending on what the

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<v Speaker 6>substance is. So if there's tobacco in a vial, they

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<v Speaker 6>know tobacco's bad for you, so they're going to press

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<v Speaker 6>a little harder.

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<v Speaker 1>And you're going to be weaker.

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<v Speaker 6>Now they say, oh, that doesn't happen, and I said, okay,

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<v Speaker 6>then prove it. I will get vials filled with stuff

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<v Speaker 6>and I'll only know what's in them.

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<v Speaker 1>They wouldn't do it. They wouldn't do it.

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<v Speaker 6>They ah, no, no, And I said, well, what do

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<v Speaker 6>you mean if if you take six vials or ten

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<v Speaker 6>vials and muscle test someone, you're telling me it's the

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<v Speaker 6>substance in the vial that makes them stronger or weaker.

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<v Speaker 6>It's not your knowledge of those And he says, well,

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<v Speaker 6>there's a spiritual connection as well, and I said, yeah, right,

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<v Speaker 6>horse crap. So here's my challenge. Anybody who believes they

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<v Speaker 6>can muscle test someone for a substance, You're welcome to

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<v Speaker 6>come to my studio, and I swear to God, I'll

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<v Speaker 6>give you the biggest praise and cheers in the world.

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<v Speaker 1>If you can do it.

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<v Speaker 6>But you can't know what's in the vials, because objectively,

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<v Speaker 6>if someone truly is weakened by a substance. They would

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<v Speaker 6>be weakened by a substance, whether you know what it

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<v Speaker 6>is or not. And if they're strengthened by a substance,

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<v Speaker 6>they would be strengthened, whether you know what it is

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<v Speaker 6>or not.

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<v Speaker 1>So anyone who does this, you're free to come into

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<v Speaker 1>my home or to my studio, and I want to

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<v Speaker 1>see it.

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<v Speaker 6>Will take subjects and substances and see what happens. No

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<v Speaker 6>one can do it, Sorry, it won't happen. So three

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<v Speaker 6>O three seven one three talk seven to one, three

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<v Speaker 6>eight eight two.

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<v Speaker 1>Five to five.

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<v Speaker 6>Now, Tom, going back to that caller of the casino,

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<v Speaker 6>if they kicked him out of the casino, it doesn't

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<v Speaker 6>mean even though they can legally do it, that is

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<v Speaker 6>good business. And I know winning could result in me

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<v Speaker 6>being trespassed from there or yeah, whatever they're trying to say,

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<v Speaker 6>that comes from an earlier caller. If you are too

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<v Speaker 6>good at what you do at a casino, they don't

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<v Speaker 6>have to have a reason to kick you out.

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<v Speaker 1>They often do make up a reason. You know, you're

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<v Speaker 1>a what do they call it, advanced player, advantage player?

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<v Speaker 6>Advantage player, meaning you're counting cards or you're looking for

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<v Speaker 6>things telltale signs edge. You look at the edges of cards,

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<v Speaker 6>you can read them, you can memorize them. Whatever they say,

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<v Speaker 6>that's not gambling. So in that regard, you can be

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<v Speaker 6>kicked out of a casino for any reason at any time.

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<v Speaker 6>And this texture says that might be legal, but it's

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<v Speaker 6>stick supid now it says here, Uh, what's that? Oh,

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<v Speaker 6>zero sixteen twenty two. Hi, Tom Martino, you're a troubleshooter.

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<v Speaker 6>Three zero three seven one three talk seven one three

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<v Speaker 6>eight two five five. Dan Mackenzie attorney at Law Mackenzie Law.

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<v Speaker 6>He does estate planning. I love picking his brain about things.

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<v Speaker 6>I'm gonna go back to this call we had. Even

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<v Speaker 6>if we can't get the caller on, but if we can,

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<v Speaker 6>that's even better. So, Kachina, are you attempting to caller on?

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<v Speaker 6>I can start summarizing the problem.

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<v Speaker 1>We have Dan Mackenzie on, and also Darryl who was

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<v Speaker 1>the call Thank you very much. Yes, hey Darryl, allow

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<v Speaker 1>me to summarize this, Hey Dan, Dan, Yeah, okay, Hi listen.

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<v Speaker 6>So we have a woman who lives in Mexico. Hey, Daryl,

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<v Speaker 6>is she an American? Is she an American citizen or

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<v Speaker 6>a Mexican citizen. She has dual citizens dual citizenship, and

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<v Speaker 6>she lives in Mexico, and she has a house that's

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<v Speaker 6>paid for five hundred thousand dollars about and she has

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<v Speaker 6>about two million dollars in bank accounts, mostly in the US,

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<v Speaker 6>and a couple in Mexico and a couple in Costa Rica.

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<v Speaker 1>That's her situation.

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<v Speaker 6>A couple million in bank accounts spread across three countries

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<v Speaker 6>and a house in Mexico worth about five hundred paid off.

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<v Speaker 6>She's got four heirs that she plans on distributing twenty

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<v Speaker 6>five percent each. I want to know the easiest way

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<v Speaker 6>to do this, Dan, What I said was maybe, and

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<v Speaker 6>again I'm just taking an amateuristic stab at this. Maybe

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<v Speaker 6>they form an LLC first of all among the four,

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<v Speaker 6>saying that they would agree to split everything twenty five

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<v Speaker 6>percent that's sent to the LLC. And then maybe she

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<v Speaker 6>does a form of a fisheries deed for the Mexican

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<v Speaker 6>home and payable on death certificates for the bank accounts.

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<v Speaker 6>But I don't even know if that's possible cross country lines.

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<v Speaker 1>So can you weigh in on this?

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<v Speaker 17>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 18>I mean it's whatever whatever is done with the property

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<v Speaker 18>in Mexico or wherever else other items are is going

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<v Speaker 18>to be done according to their laws. Even within the

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<v Speaker 18>United States, you know. I you know, Colorado court can't

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<v Speaker 18>direct where like Kansas property goes, so you have to

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<v Speaker 18>do something to put them in some sort of entity.

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<v Speaker 18>So the LLC idea is an interesting one. I take

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<v Speaker 18>it that the four do get along with each other.

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<v Speaker 18>On the same page about all this.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, they he says, they probably will.

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<v Speaker 10>Yes, Okay, I don't know.

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<v Speaker 18>I mean, I know, you know, obviously Mexico has its

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<v Speaker 18>own rules that I think that I've heard that they

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<v Speaker 18>require some sort of like free registration of how you

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<v Speaker 18>want would want property distributed if you passed away, like

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<v Speaker 18>when you own real estate there. But that is really

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<v Speaker 18>secondhand and that knowledge is a little bit out of date,

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<v Speaker 18>so I don't really know if that's true or not,

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<v Speaker 18>but it's now.

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<v Speaker 6>But let me ask you something, though, Would you need

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<v Speaker 6>a would you need an attorney, like let's say, bank

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<v Speaker 6>accounts in Costa Rica.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, we don't even know what they would need.

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<v Speaker 18>Right right, Yeah, it'd be good if she could, if

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<v Speaker 18>she I mean, certainly for banks, it seems like it

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<v Speaker 18>should be possible to talk to somebody and get an

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<v Speaker 18>explanation that what they would need. Real estate is a

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<v Speaker 18>little bit trickier, So I really would urge her to

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<v Speaker 18>consult with an attorney in Mexico familiar with their laws.

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<v Speaker 18>But I think you might be on the right track.

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<v Speaker 1>That is not a bad idea.

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<v Speaker 18>But when you got to spread out all of the

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<v Speaker 18>place to kind of centralize them into one spot. I

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<v Speaker 18>don't know if it's Hell Mexico has an LLC or

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<v Speaker 18>if that would be done here or not. It seems

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<v Speaker 18>like she lives there, she's got property there. It seems

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<v Speaker 18>like the planning should originate there.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, so they should get an attorney there then, Yeah.

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<v Speaker 18>I would definitely, I would definitely recommend that.

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<v Speaker 6>And the can that attorney then reach into the United

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<v Speaker 6>States for payable on death certificates or what?

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<v Speaker 18>Yes, I mean that is also going to depend on,

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<v Speaker 18>Like with a payable on death the institution that you

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<v Speaker 18>know has that, they probably have some sort of agreement

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<v Speaker 18>that you're signing by directing those items to wherever you're

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<v Speaker 18>directing it to, you just want to make sure that

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<v Speaker 18>they are.

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<v Speaker 1>Hey, I have an idea special procedures, Darryl, Yes, sir,

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<v Speaker 1>what about how old is she now?

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<v Speaker 11>A agree?

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<v Speaker 1>Is she in good health? Is she in good health?

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<v Speaker 8>Good health?

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<v Speaker 11>Yes?

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, she might And Dan, this might be a silly idea,

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<v Speaker 6>but maybe she might want to consolidate her bank accounts

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<v Speaker 6>all into the US. Maybe that would allow a payable

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<v Speaker 6>on death certificate paid out on her death even though

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<v Speaker 6>she's well, No, she's an American citizen. I mean, then

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<v Speaker 6>you don't have to worry about the Costa Rica thing

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<v Speaker 6>and the Mexican thing. All you'd have to contend with

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<v Speaker 6>is the house.

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<v Speaker 1>Couldn't all the taxes wait wait wait wait wait.

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<v Speaker 7>Couldn't all the tax ramifications be completely different?

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<v Speaker 1>Where they inherit this money? Yes, I guess they could be, Mark,

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<v Speaker 1>I guess they could be.

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<v Speaker 6>I but we know, Mark, that that the United States

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<v Speaker 6>has beneficial the most beneficial laws.

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<v Speaker 1>There is no tax on two million dollars.

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<v Speaker 6>So let's say that she consolidates all her accounts into

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<v Speaker 6>a couple of US accounts.

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<v Speaker 1>What can do better than zero taxes? Well, I don't know,

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<v Speaker 1>because I don't know the laws in other countries, but

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<v Speaker 1>I know there.

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<v Speaker 6>Is But even but what I'm saying, Mark, even if

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<v Speaker 6>they're the same, no one's going to do better than

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<v Speaker 6>zero taxes.

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<v Speaker 1>The government's not going to do anything better. But I'm

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<v Speaker 1>saying in Mexico, I don't know the answer to this.

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<v Speaker 7>In Mexico, if I leave my kid a half a

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<v Speaker 7>million dollar house, is that it they owe no taxes?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh?

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<v Speaker 1>I don't.

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<v Speaker 6>I don't know about the house I was talking about doing.

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<v Speaker 6>Doing the bank accounts in the US with payable on

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<v Speaker 6>death certificates. They're out of the way now now you

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<v Speaker 6>worry about the house. I don't know, Dan, I mean,

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<v Speaker 6>why would they have to keep them in Mexico and

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<v Speaker 6>Costa Rica and and gum up the works.

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<v Speaker 18>What do you think, I mean, if she's in good

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<v Speaker 18>health and she can consolidate things, I don't know what

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<v Speaker 18>the You know that maybe there's some reason that she's

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<v Speaker 18>got the money in the in the Costa Rica accounts,

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<v Speaker 18>but uh, consolidation is always helpful, even with them.

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<v Speaker 6>And then another thing, do you know there's joint ownership

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<v Speaker 6>with right of survivorship that uh, they could do a

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<v Speaker 6>deed right now in Mexico with the LLC, and the

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<v Speaker 6>LLC would automatically inherit it. They they recognize this as

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02:11:55.279 --> 02:11:58.560
<v Speaker 6>joint ownership right of survivorship in Mexico.

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<v Speaker 1>Interesting and yup. And then they said also.

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<v Speaker 6>They recognize normal wills as well, that a simple will

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<v Speaker 6>drafted leaving the house to American citizens would be honored.

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<v Speaker 18>Yeah, it's interesting because like here you can't really you

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<v Speaker 18>can't jointly hold something with an enmity because joint ownership

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<v Speaker 18>is about what happens.

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<v Speaker 6>Oh, I didn't No, no, No, that was me that

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<v Speaker 6>they just said joint ownership with right of survivorship. In

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<v Speaker 6>some cases, property can be held jointly with the ownership

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<v Speaker 6>of two parties. Now, now I just threw that in

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<v Speaker 6>the LC, Sir, I did not read that. Okay, it

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<v Speaker 6>could be that it has to be an individual. So

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<v Speaker 6>what would your first step be for them if they

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02:12:50.359 --> 02:12:52.079
<v Speaker 6>came to see you or called you? What would the

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<v Speaker 6>first step be?

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<v Speaker 18>I mean I would when I have out of country

2520
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<v Speaker 18>assets that I'm dealing with, I often do try and

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02:12:59.720 --> 02:13:05.640
<v Speaker 18>sign someone in that country. The United States has treaties

2522
02:13:05.680 --> 02:13:07.760
<v Speaker 18>with a bunch of different countries on how they're going

2523
02:13:07.800 --> 02:13:13.000
<v Speaker 18>to handle transfers and what's possible with regard to estate

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02:13:13.039 --> 02:13:16.560
<v Speaker 18>planned documents. And I don't really know. I'd have to

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<v Speaker 18>think through this one a little bit because it sounds

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<v Speaker 18>like there's a few different, few different countries involved.

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<v Speaker 1>Actually, so yeah, but Darryl.

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<v Speaker 6>I don't think you'd ever have a problem unless there's

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<v Speaker 6>a reason she is in Costa Rica or something. But

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<v Speaker 6>I think the first step is to simplify things and

2531
02:13:32.840 --> 02:13:35.279
<v Speaker 6>get as much into the US and cash as possible

2532
02:13:35.359 --> 02:13:38.439
<v Speaker 6>in a bank account, because payble on death certificates are

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<v Speaker 6>honored by everyone.

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah, it's that whole Costa Rica thing that makes you

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02:13:43.279 --> 02:13:48.000
<v Speaker 7>start thinking, yeah, yeah, like why In other words, Daryl,

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<v Speaker 7>do you know why she had money there?

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<v Speaker 17>The accounts in Costa Rica or CBS, they've got another

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<v Speaker 17>three years to mature. And then my wife was heard

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<v Speaker 17>is a beneficiary on those those accounts.

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<v Speaker 6>Well, okay, then that's not going to go to the

2541
02:14:08.520 --> 02:14:11.079
<v Speaker 6>estate if it keeps that eye or you wait for

2542
02:14:11.159 --> 02:14:13.199
<v Speaker 6>two years and transfer it out to the United States,

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<v Speaker 6>looks at it again, you're gonna have to see an attorney.

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<v Speaker 6>I would start with Dan McKenzie eight three three co

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<v Speaker 6>plans eight three three co plans or co plans dot co.

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<v Speaker 1>We got more coming right up.
