WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.280 --> 00:00:03.120 With the Lucky land Slots, you can get lucky just 2 00:00:03.160 --> 00:00:04.120 about anywhere. 3 00:00:04.919 --> 00:00:07.799 It's your captain speaking. We've got clear runway and the 4 00:00:07.799 --> 00:00:09.759 weather's fine, but we're just gonna circle up here a 5 00:00:09.759 --> 00:00:13.080 while and get lucky. No, no, nothing like that. It's 6 00:00:13.119 --> 00:00:15.720 just these cash prizes add up quick, so I suggest 7 00:00:15.720 --> 00:00:17.719 you sit back, keep your trade table up right, and 8 00:00:18.000 --> 00:00:18.879 start getting lucky. 9 00:00:19.719 --> 00:00:22.559 Play for free at Lucky Landslots dot com. Are you 10 00:00:22.640 --> 00:00:26.320 feeling lucky? No purchase necessary void. We're prohibited by Law 11 00:00:26.399 --> 00:00:30.280 eighteen plus. Terms and conditions apply. See website for details. 12 00:00:30.760 --> 00:00:33.000 It is Ryan here, and I have a question for you. 13 00:00:33.240 --> 00:00:35.159 What do you do when you win? 14 00:00:35.600 --> 00:00:35.679 Like? 15 00:00:35.719 --> 00:00:38.840 Are you at fist pumper, a wooer, a handclap or 16 00:00:38.840 --> 00:00:40.679 a high fiver? I kind of like the high five. 17 00:00:40.679 --> 00:00:42.479 But if you want to hone in on those winning moves, 18 00:00:42.640 --> 00:00:45.759 check out Chumbuck Casino. At chumbacasino dot com, choose some 19 00:00:45.880 --> 00:00:48.479 hundreds of social casino style games for your chance to 20 00:00:48.520 --> 00:00:52.280 redeem serious cash prizes. There are new game releases weekly, 21 00:00:52.320 --> 00:00:55.240 plus free daily bonuses, so don't wait. Start having the 22 00:00:55.240 --> 00:00:58.039 most fun ever. At Chumbuck Casino dot com. 23 00:00:58.200 --> 00:01:00.560 We're just necessary Dally Revoidmber everyboy loss comes a condition 24 00:01:00.560 --> 00:01:00.799 to beating. 25 00:01:00.799 --> 00:01:11.319 Plus, you are now listening to True Murder The most 26 00:01:11.359 --> 00:01:14.760 Shocking Killers in True Crime History and the authors that 27 00:01:14.799 --> 00:01:21.000 have written about him Gaesy Bundy Dahmer The Nightstalker VTK 28 00:01:21.920 --> 00:01:25.719 Every week another fascinating author talking about the most shocking 29 00:01:25.840 --> 00:01:29.920 and infamous killers in true crime history. True Murder with 30 00:01:30.079 --> 00:01:33.439 your host, journalist and author Dan Zupanski. 31 00:01:42.560 --> 00:01:46.519 Good evening. In the early hours of March twenty second, 32 00:01:46.599 --> 00:01:52.239 nineteen eighty nine, two friends, career criminals with violent felony convictions, 33 00:01:52.640 --> 00:01:56.000 drove around the eastern Kansas City area in a stolen car, 34 00:01:56.040 --> 00:01:59.319 committing a series of crimes. The weather was mild for 35 00:01:59.439 --> 00:02:02.640 late March in Kansas City. The sky was clear, and 36 00:02:02.680 --> 00:02:04.799 there was the pale remnant of a full moon that 37 00:02:04.879 --> 00:02:08.080 bore the dubious name of Death Moon, the last full 38 00:02:08.159 --> 00:02:12.159 moon of winter. A little before seven am, fifteen year 39 00:02:12.159 --> 00:02:15.479 old Anne Harrison walked to the end of her driveway 40 00:02:15.520 --> 00:02:18.560 on Kansas City's east side to wait for the bus 41 00:02:18.960 --> 00:02:23.080 to take her to Raytown South High School. Ten minutes later, 42 00:02:23.280 --> 00:02:26.879 she disappeared, but no one saw what happened, As if 43 00:02:26.919 --> 00:02:30.759 waiting for her return, her belongings were still stacked carefully 44 00:02:30.879 --> 00:02:33.680 by the side of the Road. By the Side of 45 00:02:33.719 --> 00:02:37.680 the Road is the true crime story of the kidnapping, rape, 46 00:02:38.000 --> 00:02:41.680 and murder of Anne Harrison and the long journey forced 47 00:02:41.759 --> 00:02:45.039 upon her family who had to wait nearly three decades 48 00:02:45.400 --> 00:02:48.759 to see her killers brought to final justice. The book 49 00:02:48.759 --> 00:02:50.919 they were featuring this evening is By the Side of 50 00:02:50.960 --> 00:02:53.919 the Road, The True Story of the abduction and Murder 51 00:02:53.960 --> 00:02:58.000 of Anne Harrison, with my special guest, Victim Wright's advocate 52 00:02:58.120 --> 00:03:01.919 and author, Marla Bernard. Welcome to the program, and thank 53 00:03:01.960 --> 00:03:04.280 you so much for this interview. Marla Bernard. 54 00:03:04.479 --> 00:03:06.719 Thank you for having me Dan, it's a pleasure to 55 00:03:06.759 --> 00:03:07.240 be here. 56 00:03:07.360 --> 00:03:08.240 Thank you so much. 57 00:03:08.479 --> 00:03:11.759 Thank you for this extraordinary book, By the Side of 58 00:03:11.759 --> 00:03:16.080 the Road. Let's talk about right away about this suburb, 59 00:03:16.240 --> 00:03:22.199 Raytown in Kansas City, Missouri and Annie Harrison. Tell us 60 00:03:22.439 --> 00:03:26.080 your connection to the Harrison family, and tell us about 61 00:03:26.439 --> 00:03:29.199 Annie Harrison, who had just turned fifteen years old and 62 00:03:29.280 --> 00:03:31.199 her family, Bob and Janelle. 63 00:03:31.360 --> 00:03:37.719 Graytown, Missouri, is a small suburb of Kansas City. In 64 00:03:37.840 --> 00:03:43.439 nineteen eighty nine, it was a very very quiet, low 65 00:03:43.639 --> 00:03:49.000 crime area. It was one of those Midwestern cities that 66 00:03:49.120 --> 00:03:53.280 you would choose to live in want to raise a family, 67 00:03:53.879 --> 00:03:59.840 great community, excellent school district. And again it's on the 68 00:04:00.039 --> 00:04:03.960 east side of Kansas City, very close to where Bob 69 00:04:04.000 --> 00:04:09.680 and Janelle Harrison and Harrison's parents lived and still live 70 00:04:10.000 --> 00:04:14.080 in the community. I have had the pleasure privilege of 71 00:04:14.159 --> 00:04:20.120 knowing the Harrisons for approximately thirty years. I was reserved 72 00:04:20.240 --> 00:04:24.439 police sergeant for Kansas City, Missouri, and my husband was 73 00:04:24.680 --> 00:04:28.800 a homicide sergeant for almost thirty years for Kansas City 74 00:04:29.040 --> 00:04:33.439 and worked with Bob when he started out as a 75 00:04:33.519 --> 00:04:37.680 reserve police officer. So we have had an association with 76 00:04:37.800 --> 00:04:43.519 them for many, many years. And Harrison was a very shy, 77 00:04:44.279 --> 00:04:50.399 very sensitive girl. She would go out after a rainstorm 78 00:04:50.879 --> 00:04:55.439 and rescue worms off the sidewalk. She rescued animals, she 79 00:04:55.519 --> 00:05:00.040 loved pets. At the time of the incident, she I 80 00:05:00.079 --> 00:05:06.160 had just turned fifteen years old and was very sports minded. 81 00:05:06.279 --> 00:05:10.879 She loved sports. She was an honor student. She played 82 00:05:10.920 --> 00:05:14.519 the flute in the band at Greytown South High School. 83 00:05:14.959 --> 00:05:20.639 Just a very very sweet, innocent young lady who was 84 00:05:20.879 --> 00:05:28.720 always highly spoken of by family, friends, teachers, the community. 85 00:05:29.079 --> 00:05:32.720 Tell us what happens on that faithful day, March twenty second, 86 00:05:33.160 --> 00:05:37.120 around seven am and was. 87 00:05:36.680 --> 00:05:40.000 Getting ready for school. Her mom reminded her on an 88 00:05:40.040 --> 00:05:43.720 intercom that they had in Anne's room, they had a 89 00:05:43.800 --> 00:05:47.319 basement bedroom set up for her, and she let her 90 00:05:47.319 --> 00:05:50.639 mother know that she was heading out to school. Walked 91 00:05:50.800 --> 00:05:54.360 out her front door a little after seven am, walked 92 00:05:54.480 --> 00:05:58.759 down her driveway about sixty five feet from the front door, 93 00:05:59.079 --> 00:06:02.560 set down her books and her purse and her flute, 94 00:06:02.600 --> 00:06:07.600 and was standing there waiting for the school bus. And 95 00:06:08.959 --> 00:06:13.240 the next thing her mother knew, Janelle Harrison knew the 96 00:06:13.279 --> 00:06:17.839 school bus was honking for Anne, and she was gone. 97 00:06:18.240 --> 00:06:23.879 She had just mysteriously vanished, if you will. What actually 98 00:06:23.959 --> 00:06:27.480 had occurred in the course of the events was that 99 00:06:27.879 --> 00:06:33.959 two individuals who had been stealing parts from vehicles had 100 00:06:34.000 --> 00:06:38.079 been out cruising all night, drinking and browsing, and they 101 00:06:38.120 --> 00:06:41.560 saw Anne standing at the curb by the side of 102 00:06:41.600 --> 00:06:46.199 the road, and they abducted her within a matter of moments. 103 00:06:46.560 --> 00:06:50.360 Let's get back to this abduction and you talk about 104 00:06:50.439 --> 00:06:54.199 the reaction from her mother. She seems to have just disappeared. 105 00:06:54.480 --> 00:06:57.399 She runs next door to see if she possibly was there, 106 00:06:57.480 --> 00:06:59.600 maybe in the backyard, maybe went back in the home. 107 00:06:59.800 --> 00:07:03.360 So she calls her husband and he speeds home from work, 108 00:07:03.720 --> 00:07:07.160 and you say she also calls the Kansas City Police 109 00:07:07.160 --> 00:07:10.680 Department as well to report missing. What else happens In 110 00:07:10.800 --> 00:07:15.319 terms of a call to her husband, Janelle called Bob. 111 00:07:15.560 --> 00:07:22.040 He responded immediately. He also notified his brother, Paul Harrison, 112 00:07:22.199 --> 00:07:25.560 was a captain with the Kansas City, Missouri Police Department. 113 00:07:25.600 --> 00:07:32.319 At that time. Helicopters were up almost instantly. People were 114 00:07:32.839 --> 00:07:36.839 putting out flyers. And worked at the grocery store in 115 00:07:36.959 --> 00:07:40.160 Raytown near their home. She had a little part time job. 116 00:07:40.360 --> 00:07:44.879 They were putting flyers out. The people at Arrowheads Stadium 117 00:07:45.000 --> 00:07:48.240 here in Kansas City, or football team they were printing 118 00:07:48.279 --> 00:07:54.839 off flyers. They had notified the trucking agencies here. They 119 00:07:54.879 --> 00:07:59.279 had truckers out looking for her. It was a very 120 00:08:00.240 --> 00:08:04.920 very active response to try and find her. A lot 121 00:08:04.959 --> 00:08:09.480 of times she'll see on cases, not so much since 122 00:08:09.639 --> 00:08:13.800 Amber alerts, but prior to that. In this time frame, 123 00:08:14.240 --> 00:08:17.839 departments would stand back and say, you know, is she 124 00:08:17.920 --> 00:08:22.160 a runaway? Should we wait twenty forty twenty or forty 125 00:08:22.199 --> 00:08:25.399 eight hours to see whether or not she might have 126 00:08:25.680 --> 00:08:29.360 just decided to leave home for what they didn't have 127 00:08:29.399 --> 00:08:33.440 an explanation for at that time, and did not fit 128 00:08:33.679 --> 00:08:38.000 any of the criteria for that, and fortunately they were 129 00:08:38.120 --> 00:08:42.759 able to mobilize very quickly, but to no avail. It 130 00:08:42.919 --> 00:08:46.519 was as though she clearly had just vanished. 131 00:08:46.919 --> 00:08:52.360 Now you introduced Sergeant Troy Cole, and he's a homicide unit, 132 00:08:52.399 --> 00:08:57.039 but he hears about an abandoned car, stolen car Amanti Carlo, 133 00:08:57.519 --> 00:09:02.480 and he's an experienced homicide detective who had investigated worked 134 00:09:02.480 --> 00:09:05.480 on with the serial killer on the serial killer case 135 00:09:05.480 --> 00:09:08.480 of Robert Burdella, who they called the Kansas City butcher. 136 00:09:08.919 --> 00:09:12.240 So how do police proceed because there are witnesses that 137 00:09:12.639 --> 00:09:16.159 have seen the vehicle and do have some recollection of 138 00:09:16.360 --> 00:09:20.120 the perpetrators tell us about some of the witnesses claims. 139 00:09:20.480 --> 00:09:25.480 Witnesses called in, they got an immediate response from people. 140 00:09:25.799 --> 00:09:32.639 The closest description was a Chevrolet vehicle but was reported 141 00:09:32.679 --> 00:09:36.320 to be brown in color, and as it ended up, 142 00:09:36.480 --> 00:09:43.200 it was a blue car that was found when the officers. 143 00:09:43.679 --> 00:09:47.519 Within about thirty six hours, there was a report of 144 00:09:47.679 --> 00:09:53.200 an abandoned vehicle and when officers, when the officer responded 145 00:09:53.240 --> 00:09:56.639 to take the report, it was on a blue Monte Carlo. 146 00:09:57.279 --> 00:10:02.039 They were able to identify the owner. When that car 147 00:10:02.159 --> 00:10:06.279 was stolen. There were actually two vehicles stolen from the 148 00:10:06.320 --> 00:10:12.559 same location, a white car and this blue Monte Carlo. 149 00:10:13.480 --> 00:10:18.759 They recovered the Monte Carlo notified the owner of the vehicle. 150 00:10:19.080 --> 00:10:24.399 She responded with her boyfriend and as luck would have it, 151 00:10:24.519 --> 00:10:28.240 there was a problem with the vehicle that it leaked annafreeze. 152 00:10:28.639 --> 00:10:32.600 They had brought an extra gallon to put into the vehicle. 153 00:10:33.039 --> 00:10:37.840 When the gentleman the boyfriend went to put the remaining 154 00:10:38.320 --> 00:10:41.320 anna freeze in the trunk of the car, they opened 155 00:10:41.320 --> 00:10:44.360 the trunk and found that they did not have an 156 00:10:44.360 --> 00:10:47.639 abandoned stolen vehicle, but what they had was an active 157 00:10:47.679 --> 00:10:51.240 crime scene. Anne Harrison was in the trunk of that vehicle. 158 00:10:51.600 --> 00:10:55.360 That's when Troy Cole got notified. He was what they 159 00:10:55.399 --> 00:11:01.200 call the floor sergeant in homicide that evening take calls. 160 00:11:01.480 --> 00:11:05.600 When they determined that they did have a homicide scene, 161 00:11:05.799 --> 00:11:09.720 they called in what's known as the Murder Squad. That 162 00:11:10.120 --> 00:11:14.639 was a newly developed program in Kansas City. A captain 163 00:11:14.720 --> 00:11:19.960 named Gary van Buskirk developed it and they worked generally days, 164 00:11:20.240 --> 00:11:23.159 but they are on twenty four hour call when they 165 00:11:23.320 --> 00:11:29.240 have victim and no suspects, and that specialized squad comes 166 00:11:29.279 --> 00:11:33.080 in and takes over the case and works that case 167 00:11:34.000 --> 00:11:38.080 until it is solved. And so it passed from Sergeant 168 00:11:38.120 --> 00:11:43.559 Troy cole to who was a seasoned, seasoned sergeant and 169 00:11:43.679 --> 00:11:47.639 got the case prepared to hand off to Pete Edlind 170 00:11:47.720 --> 00:11:51.240 who was the sergeant on call at that time. He 171 00:11:51.320 --> 00:11:55.399 and his squad the murder Squad, and it's aptly named 172 00:11:55.519 --> 00:11:59.600 because that's what they dealt with, was just murders where 173 00:11:59.639 --> 00:12:03.240 there's you know, no suspect, not a lot of information, 174 00:12:03.840 --> 00:12:06.720 and they literally work it from the ground up. 175 00:12:06.879 --> 00:12:11.039 Regarding information. What is the condition that they find Anne 176 00:12:11.080 --> 00:12:14.840 Harrison and what did they find from the medical examiner's 177 00:12:14.879 --> 00:12:19.120 exam the autopsy, what was in terms of the wounds 178 00:12:19.320 --> 00:12:21.159 rendered and had. 179 00:12:20.960 --> 00:12:25.480 Been stabbed a total of ten times. She had been 180 00:12:25.639 --> 00:12:31.240 stabbed in the neck, in the chest area, and was 181 00:12:31.840 --> 00:12:35.519 just she was in a fetal position in the trunk 182 00:12:35.559 --> 00:12:41.000 of the vehicle when they found her. She was partially clothed. 183 00:12:41.200 --> 00:12:44.879 She had her clothing was kind of like I say, 184 00:12:45.000 --> 00:12:49.440 partially removed. It appeared that she had tried to dress 185 00:12:49.559 --> 00:12:53.480 herself or had dressed herself with clothing that was inside out. 186 00:12:53.840 --> 00:12:58.480 A shoe sock were not on. She based on what 187 00:12:58.559 --> 00:13:04.320 the medical examiner did determined she had remained conscious for 188 00:13:04.360 --> 00:13:09.440 about fifteen minutes after she was stabbed and lived for 189 00:13:09.600 --> 00:13:15.279 approximately two hours after she was so brutally stabbed and 190 00:13:15.320 --> 00:13:17.360 then just left in the trunk of the car. 191 00:13:17.639 --> 00:13:22.159 After this autopsy, there is the Buick Riviera, the second 192 00:13:22.240 --> 00:13:25.279 car that they found which was stolen at the same time, 193 00:13:25.720 --> 00:13:29.519 and the similarities in some of the things that the 194 00:13:29.720 --> 00:13:33.480 thieves did to make sure that they grabbed these cars 195 00:13:33.480 --> 00:13:36.679 and use them and were able to steal them, including 196 00:13:36.720 --> 00:13:39.399 prie marks on the door, the car radio gone, the 197 00:13:39.440 --> 00:13:42.720 astra gone, the dome light removed, and the bulb removed, 198 00:13:42.759 --> 00:13:45.960 so very similar things were done with both vehicles the 199 00:13:46.000 --> 00:13:50.600 police noticed. Then there was a March twenty six homicide 200 00:13:50.679 --> 00:13:54.240 unit is Grand View police report a high speed chase 201 00:13:54.279 --> 00:13:56.320 that they have to abandon because it was out of 202 00:13:56.360 --> 00:14:00.360 their jurisdiction because it was traffic light or something. But anyway, 203 00:14:00.360 --> 00:14:03.360 that witnesses had also seen a couple of black meals 204 00:14:03.639 --> 00:14:08.240 and other witness testimony regarding the stolen vehicle tell us about. 205 00:14:08.039 --> 00:14:13.399 That there were actually two car chases well multiple attempts 206 00:14:13.440 --> 00:14:18.840 to identify car thiefs, if you will. The first incident 207 00:14:19.440 --> 00:14:23.120 was early in the morning, about three o'clock in the 208 00:14:23.120 --> 00:14:27.200 morning on the morning that Anne was abducted. The Lease 209 00:14:27.360 --> 00:14:32.080 Summit Police department, which is also another suburb of Kansas City, 210 00:14:32.200 --> 00:14:37.519 and it actually for the location where this occurred, at 211 00:14:37.679 --> 00:14:42.039 Kansas City and Lea Summit and Raytown kind of join up. 212 00:14:42.240 --> 00:14:46.120 At the highway. Police officer in Lee's Summit noticed a 213 00:14:46.240 --> 00:14:50.120 vehicle with a tail light out and attempted to stop 214 00:14:50.279 --> 00:14:53.440 that vehicle just for a tail light and ended up 215 00:14:53.519 --> 00:14:57.559 getting into a high speed car chase with the driver. 216 00:14:57.799 --> 00:15:02.120 There were two black mails in the vehicle, and once 217 00:15:02.240 --> 00:15:07.440 they reached the city limits of Lease's Summit where it 218 00:15:07.519 --> 00:15:12.240 connected into Kansas City, Missouri, he had to suspend the chase. 219 00:15:12.679 --> 00:15:17.919 There was no probable cause for him to continue trying 220 00:15:18.000 --> 00:15:22.039 to stop that vehicle because it was just an attempt 221 00:15:22.120 --> 00:15:26.600 to stop for equipment. That's all the reasoning he had 222 00:15:26.639 --> 00:15:28.720 to be able to do that. So there was car 223 00:15:28.840 --> 00:15:33.720 chase number one. Unbeknownst to that officer at the time, 224 00:15:34.120 --> 00:15:38.639 the car was stolen and it was occupied by what 225 00:15:38.759 --> 00:15:42.679 would then become the two primary suspects in the case. 226 00:15:43.159 --> 00:15:47.919 After Anne was abducted and murdered, the Grand View police 227 00:15:47.960 --> 00:15:51.840 department yet another suburb, and they just kind of surround 228 00:15:52.039 --> 00:15:55.320 Kansas City, if you will, had found that there was 229 00:15:55.399 --> 00:16:00.080 a vehicle that had been stolen, and they attempted to 230 00:16:00.120 --> 00:16:04.559 stop the individuals got into a car chase. The individuals 231 00:16:04.720 --> 00:16:08.519 abandoned the vehicle took off on foot, and what they 232 00:16:08.679 --> 00:16:13.720 determined was that that vehicle had been stolen at the 233 00:16:13.840 --> 00:16:17.600 same location that the vehicle that Anne was in had 234 00:16:17.639 --> 00:16:21.919 been stolen at approximately the same time, and the mo 235 00:16:22.519 --> 00:16:27.799 for the individual that or individuals that stole that matched 236 00:16:28.360 --> 00:16:32.039 the way that the blue Monte Carlo had been broken into. Again, 237 00:16:32.559 --> 00:16:36.720 they had pry the driver's side door lock, pulled the 238 00:16:36.840 --> 00:16:41.720 dome light, pulled the radio, broken into the steering column 239 00:16:41.799 --> 00:16:46.000 in the same method that a number of other vehicles 240 00:16:46.240 --> 00:16:50.039 in that same time frame had been broken into. What 241 00:16:50.159 --> 00:16:54.720 they determined was that apparently these individuals were looking for 242 00:16:55.360 --> 00:17:00.559 t tops that they could sell at a local chop 243 00:17:00.639 --> 00:17:05.759 shop that provided drugs and or money for those items. 244 00:17:05.839 --> 00:17:10.400 But there were patterns that the auto theft unit and 245 00:17:10.480 --> 00:17:14.640 the homicide unit and the Grand View officers who were 246 00:17:14.640 --> 00:17:18.000 working the stolen vehicles could see that there was a 247 00:17:18.119 --> 00:17:22.559 pattern in these that appeared to be the same perpetrator 248 00:17:22.640 --> 00:17:27.119 or perpetrators doing them because it was so consistent in 249 00:17:27.160 --> 00:17:31.799 the manner in which they broke into those vehicles and stolen. 250 00:17:32.200 --> 00:17:36.440 One of the perpetrators, with their focus on car thieves, 251 00:17:37.119 --> 00:17:40.319 was a person one of these perpetrators that they brought 252 00:17:40.319 --> 00:17:43.079 in for questioning. But he wasn't very cooperative at all, 253 00:17:43.319 --> 00:17:45.640 not wanting to give up air samples, not wanting to 254 00:17:45.920 --> 00:17:49.839 sign a miranda without an attorney, so he was not cooperative. 255 00:17:50.000 --> 00:17:53.000 This is in May correct. Now the tip line is 256 00:17:53.160 --> 00:17:55.519 very very active, and of course they've got to run 257 00:17:55.599 --> 00:17:58.799 down any lead. Whether it's promising or not, they don't know. 258 00:17:59.240 --> 00:18:03.839 But in June twenty first anonymous tip came in. What 259 00:18:03.880 --> 00:18:08.519 does that anonymous tipster say and who does he name 260 00:18:08.759 --> 00:18:13.319 as the perpetrators? What is the incredible murderous tale he tells? 261 00:18:13.599 --> 00:18:14.279 And who is he? 262 00:18:14.759 --> 00:18:20.839 The caller had information that the police had not released 263 00:18:21.079 --> 00:18:24.759 to the public. He called up and told a tale 264 00:18:25.119 --> 00:18:29.799 of a friend that he had been with, who in 265 00:18:29.839 --> 00:18:34.240 the course of a conversation, said that he was involved 266 00:18:34.440 --> 00:18:39.160 in the abduction and subsequent murder, rape and murder of 267 00:18:39.640 --> 00:18:44.240 a girl. He called Annie Annie Harris. Again, he had 268 00:18:44.480 --> 00:18:48.799 details that had not been released. He told of two 269 00:18:48.880 --> 00:18:54.880 individuals that he knew that the one individual he referred 270 00:18:54.920 --> 00:18:58.920 to as Roger, which the call taker was trying to 271 00:18:58.920 --> 00:19:01.599 get all this information down and they were looking to 272 00:19:01.680 --> 00:19:06.440 see what information they had available. Very astute call taker 273 00:19:06.640 --> 00:19:09.680 was wise enough to keep this gentleman on the line 274 00:19:10.319 --> 00:19:15.559 and contact the murder squad. One of the detectives got 275 00:19:15.680 --> 00:19:20.759 him on the line and he agreed giving some cursory 276 00:19:20.839 --> 00:19:24.359 in or information, but probably one of the best leads 277 00:19:24.400 --> 00:19:27.640 they'd had so far, agreed to come in the next 278 00:19:27.759 --> 00:19:32.240 day and meet with detectives. That gentleman his name was 279 00:19:32.319 --> 00:19:39.720 Correne Hurley. He was very adamant that he knew Roger Nunley, 280 00:19:40.279 --> 00:19:44.559 a known carthief who had been brought in along with 281 00:19:44.680 --> 00:19:47.640 a lot of other individuals who had been brought in 282 00:19:48.079 --> 00:19:52.480 for questioning because he fit the mo had been in 283 00:19:52.519 --> 00:19:57.559 the area. So that the detectives began connecting the dots 284 00:19:57.759 --> 00:20:05.279 with these individuals. Kareem Hurley was very forthcoming with details 285 00:20:05.559 --> 00:20:10.799 that Nunley had shared. He also knew the other occupant 286 00:20:10.799 --> 00:20:14.799 of the vehicle, the other suspect, whose name was Michael Taylor, 287 00:20:15.200 --> 00:20:20.359 and knew that he knew Roderick or Roger Nunley very 288 00:20:20.400 --> 00:20:25.200 well and said he will not be forthcoming. He will 289 00:20:25.440 --> 00:20:28.440 be a tough nut to crack. You need to talk 290 00:20:28.480 --> 00:20:33.119 to Michael Taylor first and see if you can get 291 00:20:33.240 --> 00:20:39.720 information from him related to this case. Both Kareem Hurley 292 00:20:39.960 --> 00:20:45.039 and Roderick Nunley had been suspects in other murder cases, 293 00:20:45.400 --> 00:20:49.160 one where they were both suspects, and one particular murder case, 294 00:20:49.279 --> 00:20:54.400 so detectives knew that they had someone who had some 295 00:20:54.559 --> 00:21:00.000 inside information on Nunley and Taylor. Roderick Nunley and Michael Taylor. 296 00:21:00.400 --> 00:21:04.960 Roderick Nunley was out on bail for another crime that 297 00:21:05.039 --> 00:21:10.319 he had committed, had jumped bail and officers were aggressively 298 00:21:10.359 --> 00:21:13.359 looking for him, but he was able to elude them 299 00:21:13.480 --> 00:21:18.519 for a few more weeks. Michael Taylor was incarcerated and 300 00:21:18.759 --> 00:21:23.319 in prison being held on some other charges, and so 301 00:21:23.599 --> 00:21:27.119 it made it a little easier for detectives to go 302 00:21:27.160 --> 00:21:30.200 and conduct the first interview with the first of the 303 00:21:30.240 --> 00:21:31.400 two suspects. 304 00:21:31.599 --> 00:21:35.400 Oh, you're right about that interview with this Taylor. How 305 00:21:35.480 --> 00:21:39.599 much of that his story differs from what Kareem Hurley 306 00:21:39.759 --> 00:21:40.440 testified to. 307 00:21:41.000 --> 00:21:49.039 Taylor and Hurley were very consistent about the events that 308 00:21:49.319 --> 00:21:54.680 occurred with the crime up to the point where Taylor 309 00:21:54.960 --> 00:21:59.400 states that no, he did not rape and Harrison. It 310 00:21:59.480 --> 00:22:04.000 was rody Rick Nunley who grabbed her and pulled her 311 00:22:04.039 --> 00:22:10.759 into the vehicle and subsequently raped her and murdered Anne 312 00:22:11.039 --> 00:22:14.880 or struck the first blows if you will, decided to 313 00:22:15.079 --> 00:22:19.839 stab her. But overall, the facts of the case were 314 00:22:19.880 --> 00:22:24.680 pretty consistent about where she was standing she was pulled 315 00:22:24.680 --> 00:22:28.480 into the vehicle, that they went to Nunley's mother's home, 316 00:22:28.880 --> 00:22:32.359 where she was forced to crawl on her hands and 317 00:22:32.440 --> 00:22:35.839 knees into the basement of that home where she was 318 00:22:36.319 --> 00:22:39.880 raped and then forced to crawl back to the vehicle, 319 00:22:40.279 --> 00:22:42.960 placed in the trunk and murdered. So they were pretty 320 00:22:43.000 --> 00:22:46.960 consistent with that. But about that point is when the 321 00:22:47.000 --> 00:22:53.279 finger pointing between Nunley and Taylor occurred. Kareem Hurley knew 322 00:22:53.640 --> 00:22:59.200 Roderick Nunley well enough, and other witnesses other acquaintances would 323 00:22:59.599 --> 00:23:02.880 stay when you were in a vehicle with Roderick Nuneley, 324 00:23:03.039 --> 00:23:08.079 he always insisted on driving the vehicle. Always he would 325 00:23:08.119 --> 00:23:11.359 not ride with anyone else. He had to be in 326 00:23:11.480 --> 00:23:15.400 charge of operating that motor vehicle. And that was what 327 00:23:15.559 --> 00:23:19.400 Nunley insisted on that he was the one driving the 328 00:23:19.440 --> 00:23:23.960 motor vehicle. They were. The original intent was to grab 329 00:23:24.119 --> 00:23:29.400 Ann's belongings just to rob her, when Michael Taylor jumped 330 00:23:29.440 --> 00:23:33.400 out of the car and elected to abduct Anne instead, 331 00:23:33.640 --> 00:23:36.440 and they did not take any of the belongings, So 332 00:23:36.519 --> 00:23:39.400 he was the one that pulled Anne into the vehicle, 333 00:23:39.839 --> 00:23:45.640 whereas he being Taylor states that it was Nunley who 334 00:23:45.680 --> 00:23:48.839 pulled her into the vehicle. So that's where some of 335 00:23:48.880 --> 00:23:56.720 the inconsistencies are. But overall, the timeline, the location, most 336 00:23:57.000 --> 00:24:02.200 of the events that took place, where they took place. 337 00:24:02.599 --> 00:24:07.000 These were all things that Kareem Hurley knew where the 338 00:24:07.160 --> 00:24:13.359 actual attack on and occurred, and those things were substantiated 339 00:24:13.400 --> 00:24:16.440 by both Nunley and Taylor. It was just who did 340 00:24:16.519 --> 00:24:21.000 what first that was conflicting in their statements. 341 00:24:21.359 --> 00:24:23.680 Let's use this as an opportunity, Marlow to stop for 342 00:24:23.720 --> 00:24:27.200 a second to hear from our sponsor, which is Skylight Frame. 343 00:24:27.640 --> 00:24:31.480 The holidays are just around the corner. Looking for a 344 00:24:31.519 --> 00:24:34.799 good gift idea that your parents or in laws will 345 00:24:34.880 --> 00:24:39.160 genuinely love. It's hard to find gifts for family members, 346 00:24:39.480 --> 00:24:43.359 especially parents and grandparents who seem to have everything or 347 00:24:43.519 --> 00:24:46.519 say they have everything they need. Plus you want to 348 00:24:46.519 --> 00:24:51.440 give them something meaningful. Skylight is the perfect gift. My 349 00:24:51.599 --> 00:24:55.720 parents love the Skylight frame. My daughter in London sends 350 00:24:55.720 --> 00:24:59.200 my folks photos of her European vacations, and my brother 351 00:24:59.319 --> 00:25:03.839 sends photo from his place in British Columbia. Multiple people 352 00:25:03.880 --> 00:25:07.240 can send photos to the frame, so it's a great 353 00:25:07.359 --> 00:25:11.559 way to keep large networks of friends and families in touch. 354 00:25:12.440 --> 00:25:15.079 It has a black frame and white matt so it 355 00:25:15.200 --> 00:25:18.759 looks like a real photo frame that adds a beautiful 356 00:25:18.799 --> 00:25:23.240 touch to your home. Sending photos to Skylight is effortless. 357 00:25:24.079 --> 00:25:27.039 Everyone in the family can use the app or just 358 00:25:27.200 --> 00:25:31.079 email them to the Skylight and they'll pop up in seconds. 359 00:25:31.640 --> 00:25:35.319 It's so simple that my non tech savvy parents could 360 00:25:35.319 --> 00:25:38.279 set it up and use it now. As a special offer, 361 00:25:38.519 --> 00:25:41.440 you can get fifteen dollars off your purchase of a 362 00:25:41.440 --> 00:25:45.119 Skylight frame when you go to skylight frame dot com 363 00:25:45.440 --> 00:25:50.119 in enter code shocking. That's right. To get fifteen dollars 364 00:25:50.160 --> 00:25:53.720 off your purchase of a Skylight frame. Just go skylight 365 00:25:53.839 --> 00:26:01.279 frame dot com and entercode shocking. That's sky liga fr 366 00:26:01.839 --> 00:26:08.359 ame dot com promo code shocking. Now, Marla, the law 367 00:26:08.400 --> 00:26:13.160 enforcement has these two perpetrators, They have an incredible amount 368 00:26:13.240 --> 00:26:19.720 of evidence. They have testimony from three people to connect 369 00:26:19.720 --> 00:26:23.839 the dots to know who exactly did what despite the 370 00:26:23.920 --> 00:26:28.720 conflicting testimony of these two perpetrators. Now with the courts, 371 00:26:29.039 --> 00:26:31.880 how did the prosecutor proceed in this case? 372 00:26:32.000 --> 00:26:37.119 They had irrefutable DNA evidence, they had witnesses, they had 373 00:26:37.440 --> 00:26:41.240 the confessions from both of the killers, and when they 374 00:26:41.240 --> 00:26:46.759 went to trial, the prosecutors and Jackson Canny, Missouri, were 375 00:26:47.559 --> 00:26:50.960 going to seek the death penalty for these two individuals 376 00:26:51.160 --> 00:26:56.759 based on the felony burder. She was abducted and murdered 377 00:26:56.799 --> 00:27:00.680 in the course of committing another crime, which was so 378 00:27:00.720 --> 00:27:04.279 you had kidnapping, you had rape, you had assault, and 379 00:27:04.599 --> 00:27:09.119 of course ultimately murder. It was the decision of the 380 00:27:09.160 --> 00:27:14.640 defense attorneys, or their recommendation to Taylor and Nunley, that 381 00:27:14.920 --> 00:27:18.359 they go for a bench trial in lieu of a 382 00:27:18.440 --> 00:27:22.960 jury trial. They thought that perhaps they stood a better 383 00:27:23.119 --> 00:27:27.480 chance of avoiding the death penalty, and the judge who 384 00:27:27.680 --> 00:27:34.240 heard their case had conducted bench trials previously and had 385 00:27:34.279 --> 00:27:39.880 not meted out the death penalty, had elected to sentence 386 00:27:39.920 --> 00:27:44.680 the individuals to life in prison without the possibility of parole. 387 00:27:45.319 --> 00:27:49.640 So that was the direction that the case took, and 388 00:27:50.200 --> 00:27:53.200 it was up to the judge at that time to 389 00:27:53.559 --> 00:27:57.480 determine whether or not Taylor and Nuneley would be given 390 00:27:57.519 --> 00:28:00.759 the death penalty, and as a turn out in this 391 00:28:00.880 --> 00:28:05.799 particular case, both individuals were sentenced by the judge to 392 00:28:05.880 --> 00:28:09.920 be executed in the state of Missouri who had and 393 00:28:10.039 --> 00:28:11.920 still has the death penalty. 394 00:28:12.319 --> 00:28:14.960 I don't know the order of this when it happened, 395 00:28:15.000 --> 00:28:20.000 but there was some rough justice meeted out to Michael 396 00:28:20.039 --> 00:28:21.319 Taylor in prison. 397 00:28:21.240 --> 00:28:26.799 Wasn't there When the detectives went to meet with Michael 398 00:28:26.839 --> 00:28:32.119 Taylor in prison before he gave his interview, he asked 399 00:28:32.480 --> 00:28:35.839 to be able to call his family. He wanted to 400 00:28:36.000 --> 00:28:40.480 speak to his mother, and I believe he was only 401 00:28:40.519 --> 00:28:45.400