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Speaker 2: Every wonder what coaches are really saying during their press conferences. Well,

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get a new look on this the twenty twenty six

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Speaker 3: Let's explore the wonder of the West. Most of the

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National Park. All right, let's get into the sound Kalani Satake.

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This was his opening statement, first day of springball.

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Speaker 4: We're getting a spring ball and so it was a

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nice day. I'm glad we were outside and I'm excited

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about the team. Thought we had a really good practice.

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I think it's a really good start to twenty twenty six.

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And so I think I thought we had a great

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off season with the two months of prep.

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Speaker 5: For now. They're not in game shape yet, but we

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Speaker 4: In hell, we'll have to be game shape by the

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Speaker 5: So but they're definitely stronger and a.

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Speaker 4: Lot of guys are bigger, and so we're gonna keep

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working on that and trying to progress as a team

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during spring doing these fifteen practices.

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Speaker 5: So what question does you guys have for me?

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Speaker 3: How would we grade out the off season for BYU

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football thus far? Ronnie, I mean, I give it a

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solid P plus, maybe a minus because you went out

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and you didn't lose much in the portal. You look

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at Shay Bryan Stwath or Pokaihauna, that one hurt, right

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with Poko's having some issues maybe uh, Max Alfred, Tavian Beasley,

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Siona Hangano, Sani Tauala, that one actually kind of hurt,

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but he's at Idaho or Idaho State. I believe Tucker

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kelleher Ikeinashio Tupo Le Maason Walder, Thord, McKay Hill's dead.

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Marcus McKenzie, Jake Griffin, Dominique Mackenzie hate to see legacy

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players move on. They both ended up. I believe, I

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think uh, I think Marcus is at Utah State, Dominique

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at San Jose State. So there's definitely some losses year,

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but he's got some great acquisitions. And Roger Sally Parker

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the second Javin Williams cornerback for Missisippi State, Zakiyamauchi kou Luwave,

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as uh Uh Tom Wipeu from Eastern Washington, the older

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brother of of New cy a linebacker. So those were

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the the the key acquisitions and the key laws, and

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but you retained pretty much all of your roster, your

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key players, your key two deep, which is crazy. What

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grade would you get Bway football in the off season

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Speaker 6: I give it a minus for sure, I'm gonna upgrade

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because of the culture, because of the winning, the chemistry,

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everything they built, it does now that is on the

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them left because of what pt playing time. Their rotational

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two deep guys and maybe three D guys that weren't

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getting time. So it wasn't because they're bad football players,

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but they weren't gonna play. Who did they pick up

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in the transfer portal? It was guys of need, Guys

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school players that were just out of the portal. These

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come and make an impacts. The three offensive lineman, all

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three of them, col Verwell start beIN. We don't know,

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playing at some point this season or in make Travis squat.

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it at all. So I'm giving it an a minus. I

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think it's a great job. And you didn't have a

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Kielan Marion, you didn't have a Harrison Taggart leave this late.

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were either hurt or recovering, and they weren't gonna either

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play right away or not play this season, so no surprise.

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I still don't know if Jay Bryan Strada has committed somewhere.

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get him back. If that were the case, I'll need

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to update Ben. But other than that, I give it

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a minus. It's a pretty solid job from Killanie and

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Speaker 3: I agree, it's you know, to me, you can say

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it's a solid A minus Killani. Let's move on to

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number two, which guys won't be participating in spring ball

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Speaker 4: Yeah, the guys that are hurt, I mean, that's that's

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Speaker 5: So yeah, so I.

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on guys that were participating in spring ball, who were

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but you're trying to evaluate, Okay, who could be out

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one of the guys? Uh he posted on social media

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participating in springball. So that's one key player that was

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edge rusher. He's not gonna be a participant. He's rolling

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around on a scoot scoot. So you didn't you didn't

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see him out there? Uh? He already posted on social media,

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So I'm not breaking any violations. Hopefully the SID doesn't

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get mad at me for that, but like he already

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posted it, so not participating in springball and uh, but

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he wouldn't go into details right about those.

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Speaker 6: And I tried to ask him because because of the

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rules been I wanted him specifically to say because once

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he says it, we can talk about it.

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Speaker 7: But he didn't give it to me, and I tried

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Speaker 3: It though, Yeah, yeah, yeah, I mean, look, I was

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just kind of taken look and to see who would

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be participating who couldn't be. You may see, like anyone

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who had off season surgery not going to be participating

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most likely. Okay, that's a baseline. So anyone that's posted

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or something like that, little the bridement, little cleanup, and

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those guys can sometimes make it back to springball. But

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gander at the social media and you'll see who's available,

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who's not available, etcetera. Another guy, look out for Sonny Macussini.

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to comment on Ronnie as a pertains to availability during springball.

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Speaker 6: And I don't think anybody rotation on the too deep

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said during the off season or at the end of

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see the Pop Tarts Bowl, that LJ Martin got it.

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So we're not reporting on anything, you know, we play

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pretty close to being back. So again, not revealing anything there,

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but not really. I think everybody else they have it.

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The two deepest healthy and again Ben, that's just a

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credit to the strength and conditioning a staff to keep

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these guys healthy. Evan Johnson per Kelly Papenka said, Bigger, faster, stronger.

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best ability is availability. We've been talking about it with

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scholarship could you know, unfortunately be up for grabs.

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Speaker 3: Let's get into number three. How has the team been?

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How have they reacted since the departure of Parker Kingston?

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Speaker 4: The team's fine, guys are great. I mean this is

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a we have a strong culture on the team.

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Speaker 3: So yeah, fine, fine, dandy, good, great, grand wonderful. Not

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gonna get too far into it. This team. Look and

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you see the cohesion. You see the chemistry this team

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and their offseason lists, their offseason competitions. They did this

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uh uh kind of this Olympic games where they all

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they're doing these these odd games. I don't know if

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you saw that, Ronnie. Uh yeah, pretty funny, pretty fun

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some of some of the games they were playing. Some

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of the competition. We used to have, uh super games.

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have a team captain, there'd be a draft, and then

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like to failure type of lifts like we you had

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like I think the skill guys had to put on

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one eighty five and you had to like box squad

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is many times as you could before failure. So like

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the combos and the offensive defensive lining had to do

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two twenty five anyway, and then at the end, whoever

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won the competition and their points system, Right, you got

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a big prize, you got like a swag bag, you

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got like gear and shoes, and it was a big deal. Right,

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water polo anyway. It's all about competition and and finding

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ways to compete. So this team coming together, melding and

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mession together despite the adversity they faced in the office,

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of adversity, right every season, whether it's James Retzlaw or

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Parker Kingston, I go back every single offseason. There are

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academic attorition, all that stuff. All right, let's get into it.

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a good group of returned missionaries, and I think most

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of our high school signees are here enrolled early and

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on campus except for probably one. I think we're adding

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in June, and then the rest of them are on

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are on their missions, are heading on their mission soon.

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class and those are going on missions and those that

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are rolling enrolling early, and then the transfer portal. I

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think we've got a good, good field of things right

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now and got some great momento. So I think the

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key is to get everybody, those especially the new ones,

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in a position where they can understand our scheme and

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and then, you know, but in a position to compete.

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that they're aligning correctly and that they know their assignment,

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and then they're executing with the right technique, and then

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we'll compete a lot more when we get to fallcan.

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Speaker 3: Competition, baby, That's what it's all about. The goals for springball.

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You want to develop depth and see who separates themselves

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separating Uh the uh, the the you know, just kind

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of seeing that cream rise to the top. That's what

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you want to see. Killone. Let's get into number five.

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What are your thoughts on the wide receiver room as

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a whole and what did they look like day one?

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Speaker 5: Yeah? They look good.

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Speaker 4: I mean, we've got a bunch of talent. He retained

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some talent. So I think we're gonna be really good

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in that position at receiver and be good at tight end.

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I like the backs O line looks.

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Speaker 5: Good too, and and quarterbacks look really good too.

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Speaker 4: So I feel really good about overall with the team.

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Speaker 3: I think many of us feel that the wide receiver

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room is the topic djour and springball. Who replaces Parker Kingston?

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Who's wide receiver?

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Speaker 4: One?

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Speaker 3: Uh? And uh you know what is this? Uh? You

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know what does the chemistry look like between Bear Bachmeier

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and guys like Kyler Kasper, Reggie Frishcanet and uh Ta Nakua. Uh.

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You know that the rising stars in the wide receiver

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room Cody Hagen, et cetera. Uh and uh, We're going

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to keep a close and competitive eye on that wide

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receiver room. So we'll continue to ask about it, We'll

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probably remember we'll get more details from the position coaches

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and the coordinators. More often than not, Kalani is always

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going to keep it general unless he really feels the

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necessity go out his way, out of his way to

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highlight individual players. Would you agree with that assessment, Ronnie?

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Like he is not prone to going off on like tangents.

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Speaker 7: Nope.

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Speaker 3: Regarding like individual players, he does not want to.

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Speaker 7: He does not want to talk about.

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Speaker 3: The individual He wants to talk about the collective.

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Speaker 6: You want to talk about the collective, I remember asked him.

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Remember Kuwikly had that game sealing pig against Baylor. I

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asked it, and look, you shouldn't do this, But I

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had asked Chad GBT at the time, been directly of

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how to not get out of it. I said it

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to him and he and he said, they said, well, crew,

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and then he got mad that I asked that direct

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and then he had no choice but to answer it.

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But he's still tried to make it about the team.

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Kilanie does not want to be that direct. He wants

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to talk about the collective as a whole, like you

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mentioned that's who he is in his day one, so

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he ain't gonna give you nothing like. That's why I asked,

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all right, let's I wanted to gauge Ben, so I

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asked the question about injuries to see if he would

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tell us who and for the fact that he didn't,

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I said, Yep, it's gonna be that type of interview

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where day one and Kilanie he's not bubbly yet.

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Speaker 7: He won't give you nothing just yet.

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Speaker 3: Not yet, Ladies and gentlemen, what did Walker, Lions and

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Rogers say Apoga the second show on day one spring ball?

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Because you know everyone's focused on the wide receivers, but

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maybe the tight ends or the high target players in

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spring ball and into fall camp.

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Speaker 4: I mean, there's we knew them before they even they

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feel they even came here. We knew them in high

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school and so yeah, exactly what we thought. They're athletic.

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They're big, they're strong, and then they can run ralphs

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so they can catch and they can block. So right

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now we're not in pads yet, but I I'm pretty

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sure they're agleticism. The town they're going to be fine.

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Speaker 3: So how involved will Roger Saliopaga and Walker Lions be

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and how involved are they going to be in the

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passion game? You know what I mean? Like are they

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going to be prime targets for bear Bachmeyer this year?

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Will this be the first year in which you have

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in a long time you have a Danish Pitta Andrew

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George type of statistical distribution, a Johnny Harlen Dan Coates.

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Those were both NFL tight ends. If you look at

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the stats Dan Coates and and Johnny Harlen in two thousand,

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I want to say two thousand and six, they had

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their fair share of receptions and yards. Like two thousand

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and six, Johnny Harlean was like essentially a wide receiver one.

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He was heavily targeted. He was a Mackie Award finalist,

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semi finalist, fifty eight receptions, nine hundred and thirty five yards,

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sixteen point one yards per reception, twelve touchdowns. Dan Coach

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was seen as the inline tight end. Okay, he had

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twenty two receptions, two hundred and thirty nine yards, ten

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point nine yards per reception, and two touchdowns. Not too

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bad all things considered for being a in line tight end.

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So you look at between the two of them, that's

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almost that's like almost eighty receptions, Okay, eighty receptions and

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over one thousand yards receiving. Is that what we're gonna

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see in twenty twenty six from these two tight ends? Ronnie,

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how you feeling about it?

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Speaker 7: Yeah, I think there's a good chance. You definitely could

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see that.

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Speaker 6: Robbie the only person that been participated in the college

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football playoffs and scored that is on a roster as

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Robert Saliapaka the second so I'm excited to see that.

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They definitely could I think what you're gonna see is

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a combination of the year with Isaac Rex and then

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Jake's what is it first and Jake's second year with

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all of those tight ends where they had heavy personnel

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Jake was storing a different bunch of different tight ends

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in the red zone. I think he's gonna have options.

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I don't know if if he will connect, but you

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definitely could see that. With with how these guys can

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catch the ball, I think Walker Lyons is more of

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your guy that's probably gonna be flexed out catching your

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red zone threat. Robert will be there as well, but

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might be more blocking, But they definitely have a chance.

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Speaker 7: The last time you had, uh, you.

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Speaker 6: Know, two tight ends that had this ability where the

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you know guys that you just mentioned. So if if

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there's a year to do it, Ben, it's this year.

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But I'm excited to see what both of these guys do.

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But I definitely think Walker is gonna be your one

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A guy catching is gonna be your you know, Matt

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Bushman obviously is gonna be your Isaac Rex. That's gonna

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be the guy that's gonna be your red zone threat.

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Like I'm serious when I say this. I love all

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the wide receivers in the room, Ben. I think they

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have great skill sets, they can provide great depth for

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this roster. They can do a lot of things. But

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the kid that is catching passes already from Bear is

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going to be the safety blanket. You saw what Carson

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Ryan was for bart Backmeyer. You're gonna see that more

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often this season. And a guy that's more dynamic, who's

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a better pass catcher than Carson Ryan.

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Speaker 7: I'm serious.

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Speaker 6: I think Walker could be could be a tremendous impact

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as not Hyperberly. I think he could be a top

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three receiver in yards because Carson was for this team.

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Speaker 7: I think that's possible.

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Speaker 3: So the last time you really had a dynamic due

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I mentioned Johnny and Dan it was two thousand and nine.

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Dennis Pitta had sixty two receptions, eight hundred and twenty

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nine yards and eight touchdowns. Andrew George complimented that thirty receptions,

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four hundred and eight yards in five touchdowns, So that's

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over twelve hundred yards receiving twelve touchdowns between the two

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of them. Both could be in line and flexed tight

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ends and that's what you produced and you won. You

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got double digit wins there, good season eleven and two

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in two thousand and nine with a top twenty five

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ranking and a win over a ranked opponent in your

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bowl game. So look, health is wealth. Availability is your

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best ability. If they're available, you could see a Walker

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Lions Roger Sally of PAGA duo that is akin to

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maybe the Johnny Harlean, the Johnny Harlen and Dan Coates era,

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the Dennis Pitt of Andrew George era. It would be tremendous.

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I don't know if we've had that, quite honestly, you

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almost had that with Dallan Holker and Isaac Rex almost

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you could have it just didn't never come to fruition unfortunately,

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just never came to fruition. And it's total let's get

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back to the sound. Uh, Kalan, you added three offensive

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lineman via the transfer portal. Why was that?

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Speaker 4: Yep, get better depth and competition. I mean, we're gonna

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play the best five alignment. But if you look at

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last year, we had a good rotation in there too,

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and we feel like there's a I mean, I trust

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coach Woods and a Rod and getting the old line ready,

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and so I feel like they they knew that these

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are guys that we knew from before too, and so

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they're a great fit for our program and for our

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culture and for the university.

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Speaker 5: So I think it's a good fit.

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Speaker 4: And and uh, like I said, I you know, there's

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a bunch of guys that can compete. We're just trying

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to kind of get everybody in position so we can

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get our started, getting our too deep and getting our

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travel squad ready. But we don't have to do that

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till now we do that fall camp.

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Speaker 3: Dygo. That's uh the reasons why he added a couple

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of offensive linemen. I thought all three of them were

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great acquisitions. I'm most intrigued by pot fenw really like him.

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I think he could be tremendous. Junior C also a

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great acquistions Zach Yamauchi is also a nice acquisition via

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the portal from Stanford. All three with great experience, which

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starts under the belt two at P. Four institutions a

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How is the team handling expectations for the first time,

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like big expectations because you've gone double digit You've got

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double digit wins year over year, two years in a row.

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Now they're they're they're favored in many of the games

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leading up to the twenty twenty six season. How how

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are they handling expectations?

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Speaker 6: Are he juggling expectations this first time since you guys

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joined the Big twelve where there's gonna be lofty outside expectations.

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Speaker 5: How do you think this team's going to handle.

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Speaker 3: That this season.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I think.

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Speaker 4: I mean, we've been saying humbled and hungry from the beginning,

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so I think it's gonna take an incredible amount of humility.

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Speaker 5: We're not doing things the same that.

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Speaker 4: We've done in the past, and so every year we

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changed a few things to get our team ready. And

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but the thing that's consistent is we have some great

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leadership on the team. Gonna lean heavily on on on

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our leaders and heavily on the staff getting them ready.

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And I feel really confident about what we can do.

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But again, it's just it's all not real yet, you

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know what I mean. So with today I was I

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was really encouraged what I saw, and I think Lovell

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said it best. So we have a pretty good chance.

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We'll see what happens, you know. But for practice one,

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really happy with it and happy with the talent, the speed,

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the athleticism. I feel really good about where we're headed.

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We've got to make sure that we keep improving. We

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can't take any steps back.

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Speaker 3: No steps back. The expectations are higher than that, and

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you want to just continue to meet the standard, meet

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the bar. That's how we see it. A couple last

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things from Kilane. You guys aren't in pageant, but when

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you transit, when do you transition? How much live work

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tackling work will you? Guys?

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Speaker 4: Do we want to do some live work, But it

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just depends on who we're doing live work with. There's

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a lot of guys that probably don't need it and

471
00:23:21,759 --> 00:23:24,839
have done enough. There's some guys that just got inform

472
00:23:24,839 --> 00:23:27,920
missions that probably want to do more, but we got to,

473
00:23:28,000 --> 00:23:29,440
you know, reel them back a little bit. And so

474
00:23:29,960 --> 00:23:31,839
I think, but I think everybody has a chance to

475
00:23:31,880 --> 00:23:34,039
do some live work, and especially those that haven't been

476
00:23:34,079 --> 00:23:36,480
here and are new. We've we've got to be able

477
00:23:36,519 --> 00:23:39,319
to see them when whenever things get really live and

478
00:23:39,839 --> 00:23:41,839
I don't know any other way to simulate it than

479
00:23:41,920 --> 00:23:44,519
actually do it. So but then those guys that are

480
00:23:44,599 --> 00:23:47,079
proven and we still need them to get better and

481
00:23:47,119 --> 00:23:49,119
a lot of different things. But I don't know if

482
00:23:49,160 --> 00:23:51,519
if getting tackled or tackling for them is going to

483
00:23:51,519 --> 00:23:53,440
be the key.

484
00:23:53,599 --> 00:23:57,640
Speaker 3: You do need a nice balance between non can contact

485
00:23:57,720 --> 00:24:01,720
work and contact work. I don't know if this will

486
00:24:01,759 --> 00:24:05,920
ever be an NFL model in college because remember the

487
00:24:05,960 --> 00:24:10,119
reason why I say that is because the NFL is

488
00:24:10,200 --> 00:24:15,799
literally the one percent of you know, the two percent

489
00:24:15,920 --> 00:24:19,640
that come out of high school with scholarship offers. So,

490
00:24:19,880 --> 00:24:22,759
like you look at the amount of scholarships available at

491
00:24:22,759 --> 00:24:27,160
like the P four G six level, and you're looking

492
00:24:27,200 --> 00:24:30,519
I think roughly around like two percent of the total

493
00:24:30,880 --> 00:24:34,000
high school football population, maybe a little bit less than that.

494
00:24:34,039 --> 00:24:35,519
Sometimes you can you can make an argument for like

495
00:24:35,559 --> 00:24:39,240
one percent of one percent, and then from there it's

496
00:24:39,319 --> 00:24:43,519
the one percent of that of college football players that

497
00:24:43,559 --> 00:24:46,680
are getting into the NFL and staying in the NFL

498
00:24:46,759 --> 00:24:49,799
on average two and a half years. That's it. So

499
00:24:50,000 --> 00:24:52,000
like these guys are the best of the best of

500
00:24:52,039 --> 00:24:57,400
the best athletically and from a productivity standpoint, that's that's

501
00:24:57,440 --> 00:24:59,839
why they don't have to go contact and because you know,

502
00:25:00,200 --> 00:25:04,839
the value of health is even it's it's just incrementalized,

503
00:25:04,920 --> 00:25:08,559
it's just significantly higher. So, uh, you're still trying to

504
00:25:08,559 --> 00:25:10,960
find out who the dogs are in college football. You're

505
00:25:10,960 --> 00:25:14,079
trying to figure out who the who, who the the

506
00:25:14,359 --> 00:25:16,039
krem de la creme is, and so you've got to

507
00:25:16,039 --> 00:25:19,000
get some contact working to see who the big boys are. Uh,

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it separates the boys from the men. Boys to men ABC,

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he going to be returning to practice? What? What are

533
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some of the reasons some players are currently aren't currently

534
00:26:34,759 --> 00:26:37,119
on the rosses a few guys that are no longer

535
00:26:37,160 --> 00:26:39,759
part of the roster. We'll see how that what Kalani

536
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answers in that regard, as well as what stood out

537
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to him about to Mario Warny and Lewis Walker, why

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did they promote Wes Johnson as well in that defensive secondary.

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Kilini Shataki, what's the timeline of return for l J

552
00:27:25,079 --> 00:27:26,599
Martin getting back to practice?

553
00:27:26,799 --> 00:27:28,880
Speaker 4: He looks awesome, He's he's right on target for it.

554
00:27:28,960 --> 00:27:31,680
I mean, you can see him when they come walking off.

555
00:27:31,680 --> 00:27:35,240
They're gonna look great. So I like the way Ljay's leading.

556
00:27:35,240 --> 00:27:38,279
I mean, he's so impressed with his leadership skills. That's

557
00:27:38,319 --> 00:27:40,720
just how he's been getting better every every year. And

558
00:27:41,319 --> 00:27:43,240
I'm glad he came back because I think he's gonna do.

559
00:27:43,359 --> 00:27:45,440
I think the team really needs him, and I think

560
00:27:45,480 --> 00:27:47,839
it's an opportunity for him to become an even stronger

561
00:27:47,880 --> 00:27:50,640
leader than he was before. And I think he's answered

562
00:27:50,640 --> 00:27:52,599
every yet challenge we've given them as a leader.

563
00:27:54,880 --> 00:27:58,039
Speaker 3: So is he gonna play? Is he not gonna play?

564
00:27:58,079 --> 00:28:00,440
How you feel? And Springball is gonna to shit this

565
00:28:00,480 --> 00:28:02,000
one out. Remember he was one of those guys that

566
00:28:02,039 --> 00:28:06,799
we discussed had surgery in January, and uh, well, I

567
00:28:06,799 --> 00:28:08,720
guess he had surgery prior to the bowl game. So

568
00:28:09,000 --> 00:28:11,319
he had surgery prior to the bowl game, didn't play

569
00:28:11,359 --> 00:28:14,440
the bowl game. He's still recuperating, still recovering. I guess

570
00:28:14,519 --> 00:28:19,319
it's been over two months now, though he probably could

571
00:28:19,319 --> 00:28:20,880
go out and play. But do you really need LJ.

572
00:28:20,960 --> 00:28:23,480
Martin to play spring ball? Ronald three man over.

573
00:28:23,599 --> 00:28:26,160
Speaker 6: No, I was gonna say it doesn't doesn't matter. We

574
00:28:26,240 --> 00:28:28,400
heard from him earlier, you know in the second hour

575
00:28:28,440 --> 00:28:31,319
that he's close to that and you know almost there.

576
00:28:31,319 --> 00:28:32,279
Speaker 7: But he doesn't need to Ben.

577
00:28:32,319 --> 00:28:34,839
Speaker 6: He's one of those things like last year, remember Isaiah

578
00:28:34,839 --> 00:28:37,000
Glaser got surgery on his hand, didn't need to play

579
00:28:37,119 --> 00:28:40,240
like he's we know what he's capable of. You want

580
00:28:40,240 --> 00:28:42,640
to find RB two, RB three or multiple RB two.

581
00:28:42,680 --> 00:28:44,440
So I don't want to see LJ. Martin spring ball

582
00:28:44,480 --> 00:28:45,799
this year. I'll se him in valcamp though.

583
00:28:46,720 --> 00:28:49,000
Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, that's all you need him, Matt, That's all

584
00:28:49,240 --> 00:28:52,079
that's all you need is LJ In in fall, keep

585
00:28:52,119 --> 00:28:55,279
him healthy, keep him happy, and keep him mentoring, Right,

586
00:28:55,759 --> 00:28:58,400
that's what you need right now, mentorship in that RB

587
00:28:58,440 --> 00:29:00,920
two room. What's the reason What are some of the

588
00:29:00,920 --> 00:29:03,920
reasons why some players are aren't currently on the roster.

589
00:29:04,400 --> 00:29:06,880
Will they be coming back during the fall, keeping it

590
00:29:07,079 --> 00:29:08,400
in general, keeping it broad.

591
00:29:08,160 --> 00:29:10,160
Speaker 5: There, Tyler Pain's on a mission.

592
00:29:11,920 --> 00:29:15,079
Speaker 4: I guess it's all depending on There's some guys that

593
00:29:15,359 --> 00:29:19,480
have gone, that have gone and left and left the program.

594
00:29:19,680 --> 00:29:23,359
Majority of the guys that we have are here. You know,

595
00:29:23,359 --> 00:29:25,039
we're always looking to add a few here and there.

596
00:29:25,079 --> 00:29:27,920
But for the most part, I think we got I mean,

597
00:29:28,119 --> 00:29:29,240
give or take a few people.

598
00:29:31,799 --> 00:29:33,920
Speaker 3: I mean, who is he referring to, right, there's a

599
00:29:34,519 --> 00:29:38,200
There was one in particular articular, I believe Naki Tuakoy.

600
00:29:38,759 --> 00:29:43,960
Remember he came into the BYU twenty twenty four class,

601
00:29:44,079 --> 00:29:48,839
I believe, and was on the roster finally in twenty

602
00:29:48,920 --> 00:29:53,920
twenty five, but we really didn't hear much about him

603
00:29:54,359 --> 00:29:58,119
throughout twenty twenty five, and he's currently not on the roster.

604
00:29:58,359 --> 00:30:02,240
To be determined, what's going on. Look, there's always roster attrition,

605
00:30:02,839 --> 00:30:05,279
no doubt about it. Remember after last spring ball, Danny

606
00:30:05,359 --> 00:30:09,279
sai Lee entered the portal and went out to I

607
00:30:09,319 --> 00:30:11,880
want to say he ended up at Arkansas. So Naki

608
00:30:11,960 --> 00:30:15,200
was a part of that twenty twenty four class finally

609
00:30:15,200 --> 00:30:18,680
got onto the roster twenty twenty five and now he's

610
00:30:18,759 --> 00:30:20,200
no longer on the roster. I don't know if he's

611
00:30:20,200 --> 00:30:22,880
going to be serving a mission as well. I haven't

612
00:30:22,920 --> 00:30:27,240
checked his social media, but Tyler Payne serving a mission

613
00:30:27,240 --> 00:30:29,720
for the Church Jesus Christ Lattery Saints. His brother Logan,

614
00:30:29,759 --> 00:30:31,759
who is a return missionar, going to be competing for

615
00:30:31,759 --> 00:30:34,279
that RB two spot. But Tyler Payne was kind of

616
00:30:34,279 --> 00:30:38,240
buried in a very talented linebacker room. So it's probably

617
00:30:38,279 --> 00:30:40,279
better that he takes his talents to the mission field.

618
00:30:40,599 --> 00:30:42,920
It'd be tough, not that he couldn't, it'd be tough

619
00:30:42,960 --> 00:30:46,200
to break into that too deep in that linebacker room.

620
00:30:46,240 --> 00:30:47,559
So go serve the Lord with all your heart, in

621
00:30:47,599 --> 00:30:49,759
my mind and strength, and see what happens when you

622
00:30:49,799 --> 00:30:53,759
come back. Now, has the new coaching staff changed the

623
00:30:53,880 --> 00:30:56,599
dynamic of springball practice, Killane.

624
00:30:56,599 --> 00:30:57,359
Speaker 5: That hasn't changed.

625
00:30:57,720 --> 00:31:00,440
Speaker 4: We got a system that we're in us that we

626
00:31:00,440 --> 00:31:02,960
will operate by, and the coaches come in they fit

627
00:31:03,119 --> 00:31:06,160
by what we ask them to do. And uh, demon

628
00:31:06,240 --> 00:31:08,839
and Lewis has done a great job. I like the

629
00:31:08,839 --> 00:31:12,000
way that they demand from their their players. And uh,

630
00:31:12,119 --> 00:31:14,160
today was a really good day for for those guys,

631
00:31:14,240 --> 00:31:17,559
you know. So I think Uh, Demon and Lewis know

632
00:31:17,640 --> 00:31:19,039
what they have and in the group, and they know

633
00:31:19,079 --> 00:31:22,359
how to get them just they know how to get

634
00:31:22,400 --> 00:31:25,039
them going. I mean that's we've still got to be competitive.

635
00:31:25,079 --> 00:31:27,119
There's a lot of corners that need to prove themselves

636
00:31:27,119 --> 00:31:29,119
and a lot of safeties that need to compete. So

637
00:31:29,960 --> 00:31:31,640
I think it's it's a great system for them to

638
00:31:31,640 --> 00:31:33,880
come into. They just bought into what we asked, what

639
00:31:33,960 --> 00:31:35,839
me and Kate Pop have asked them to do, and

640
00:31:35,839 --> 00:31:36,119
you know.

641
00:31:36,119 --> 00:31:38,440
Speaker 5: That It's it's like it'd be different.

642
00:31:38,440 --> 00:31:39,839
Speaker 4: I didn't know them. I know those guys in a

643
00:31:39,839 --> 00:31:41,920
personal level, so I know they're going to be just fine,

644
00:31:41,960 --> 00:31:42,599
just like they are.

645
00:31:44,799 --> 00:31:48,759
Speaker 3: Yeah, so new new new faces, right, new talents, new

646
00:31:49,079 --> 00:31:53,880
tenured play coaches, et cetera. The biggest issue right now,

647
00:31:53,880 --> 00:31:55,960
the biggest fear that I think Cougar Nation has, and

648
00:31:56,000 --> 00:31:59,880
we we address this too last week. Our biggest concern is, Okay,

649
00:32:00,279 --> 00:32:05,240
you replace your cornerbacks coach, your safeties coaches, and your

650
00:32:05,319 --> 00:32:09,319
d C so J Hill, Gennaro Guildford, Gavin Fowler. Gavin

651
00:32:09,359 --> 00:32:13,039
Fowler was that assistant analyst that was running the safety's room.

652
00:32:13,480 --> 00:32:17,640
Gavin's currently at Weber Coaching up the defense. Jay's at

653
00:32:17,799 --> 00:32:22,839
at Michigan, as is Gennaro. So you bring in Okay,

654
00:32:23,680 --> 00:32:27,720
Damario Warren, safety'ess coaching, passing end corner, Lewis Walker cornerbacks coach,

655
00:32:28,119 --> 00:32:31,720
and then you promote Wes Johnson, the big bro of

656
00:32:33,160 --> 00:32:37,119
our guy schmev Evan Johnson. That's what it looks like

657
00:32:37,319 --> 00:32:39,480
in that secondary room. Now there could be others as well.

658
00:32:39,599 --> 00:32:42,799
There was I asked Colonia follow up here, so stay

659
00:32:42,880 --> 00:32:46,279
tuned because you know, he goes into maybe a former

660
00:32:46,400 --> 00:32:50,079
Cougar that could be coaching in that secondary as a

661
00:32:50,119 --> 00:32:53,519
safeties coach. So you may have four guys you have

662
00:32:53,640 --> 00:32:55,920
like you have the Lewis and West coaching up the corners,

663
00:32:56,160 --> 00:33:00,000
Damario and somebody else coaching up the safeties. So I've

664
00:33:00,079 --> 00:33:01,920
followed up as a killinie. What stood out to you

665
00:33:01,960 --> 00:33:04,960
about Tomorio, Warren, Luth Walker and why did you promote

666
00:33:04,960 --> 00:33:05,720
Wes Johnson.

667
00:33:06,440 --> 00:33:06,680
Speaker 5: Yeah?

668
00:33:06,680 --> 00:33:09,720
Speaker 4: These are these are guys that I know, and you

669
00:33:09,720 --> 00:33:11,640
know Wes, he's been here working for us over the

670
00:33:11,720 --> 00:33:14,799
past few years, and uh, I think it's time to

671
00:33:14,839 --> 00:33:18,279
elevate him. And and you know, I think you see

672
00:33:18,319 --> 00:33:21,599
the progress that Evans made our schmeav as we know

673
00:33:21,720 --> 00:33:23,039
him and that that has a lot to do with

674
00:33:23,079 --> 00:33:25,039
his brother and the mentor the he's given him.

675
00:33:25,680 --> 00:33:28,240
Speaker 5: H Lewis I've known for forever. I've known him as

676
00:33:28,319 --> 00:33:28,799
as a player.

677
00:33:28,880 --> 00:33:30,880
Speaker 4: Knew him in high school and then he played for

678
00:33:30,920 --> 00:33:33,279
me when I was at the U, So uh, I

679
00:33:33,359 --> 00:33:35,359
know him from a personal level, and I've been proud

680
00:33:35,400 --> 00:33:36,839
of what he's been able to do as a coach

681
00:33:38,240 --> 00:33:41,279
at so many different places and been a coordinator before,

682
00:33:41,359 --> 00:33:43,680
you know, and he's coached at North Dakota State Powerhouse

683
00:33:43,720 --> 00:33:46,640
at SCS level, and so I'm really proud of him.

684
00:33:46,640 --> 00:33:49,039
And then opportunity to have him here on a staff.

685
00:33:49,079 --> 00:33:51,680
I mean, he knows our terminology and our lingo and

686
00:33:51,720 --> 00:33:54,480
he knows what I expect. And then Tomoro, I've known

687
00:33:54,559 --> 00:33:56,839
him for you know, from I think when he started

688
00:33:56,880 --> 00:33:59,079
his career, So the fact that he was able and

689
00:33:59,400 --> 00:34:02,480
when we high General Demorio was actually one of the

690
00:34:02,519 --> 00:34:04,680
guys that I leaned on heavily that said he was

691
00:34:04,720 --> 00:34:06,880
ready to do it and he was a great mentor

692
00:34:06,960 --> 00:34:09,840
to General. So have them here, and then you know,

693
00:34:10,199 --> 00:34:13,079
with with Danny Sorenson and those guys, I mean, we're

694
00:34:13,119 --> 00:34:14,840
in a really good spot and I feel like those

695
00:34:14,840 --> 00:34:16,960
guys know what they're doing, they're they're experts, and and

696
00:34:17,159 --> 00:34:20,400
uh and uh. I'm really excited for what our players

697
00:34:20,400 --> 00:34:22,480
get to have with them. And when all comes down to,

698
00:34:22,599 --> 00:34:25,000
we just need to keep giving the players all the

699
00:34:25,039 --> 00:34:27,360
resources and all the mentoring they needed to succeed. And

700
00:34:27,719 --> 00:34:29,760
I feel really good about the coaching that's there to

701
00:34:29,800 --> 00:34:31,840
support staff and all the resources that we've been given.

702
00:34:33,840 --> 00:34:36,199
Speaker 3: Okay, so that's a pretty good staff there in the

703
00:34:36,239 --> 00:34:39,760
secondary room. If you add Danny Sorenstt as a technique coach, typically,

704
00:34:39,800 --> 00:34:44,000
what you want in any position room, in my opinion,

705
00:34:44,760 --> 00:34:49,000
you need the architect, the schemer, the the individual that's

706
00:34:49,000 --> 00:34:52,639
setting out the infrastructure and the culture right of that

707
00:34:53,119 --> 00:34:57,239
particular position group. And then you want the technician day

708
00:34:57,280 --> 00:35:01,000
in and day out operationally breaking down technique within the scheme.

709
00:35:01,599 --> 00:35:05,559
You have that in Lewis Walker and Wes Johnson. Okay,

710
00:35:05,599 --> 00:35:07,320
all the extra work, all the field work that they're

711
00:35:07,360 --> 00:35:08,639
gonna be doing, You're gonna see a lot of that

712
00:35:08,679 --> 00:35:11,480
with Wes Johnson and Lewis will be involved. To remember,

713
00:35:11,559 --> 00:35:16,480
our biggest fear with losing Gennaro was recruiting, right, and

714
00:35:16,519 --> 00:35:19,760
then technique and development. Would you agree with that assessment,

715
00:35:20,000 --> 00:35:22,559
Ronald the three man weaver, someone that can really recruit

716
00:35:22,599 --> 00:35:26,280
to BYU, retain at BYU, kind of mentor at BYU,

717
00:35:26,320 --> 00:35:27,679
and then develop at BYU.

718
00:35:27,840 --> 00:35:28,719
Speaker 7: You have to have all.

719
00:35:28,679 --> 00:35:32,320
Speaker 6: Ben, you know, it's the food plate right of the

720
00:35:32,559 --> 00:35:34,920
pie chart. You need your greens, you need your grains, needs,

721
00:35:34,960 --> 00:35:36,880
your protein needs, your carbs, you need all of it.

722
00:35:37,039 --> 00:35:38,000
Speaker 7: And they have all of that.

723
00:35:38,039 --> 00:35:40,559
Speaker 6: You want your development guy that can develop the talent

724
00:35:40,599 --> 00:35:42,360
while he's there. You want the guy that can keep

725
00:35:42,400 --> 00:35:44,800
it there. That's it critical in the day of nil.

726
00:35:45,159 --> 00:35:47,280
You want the relationship guy. You want the guy that

727
00:35:47,320 --> 00:35:49,159
can go out there and get the talent. They have

728
00:35:49,280 --> 00:35:51,480
all of it. Well, sounds like they're gonna get all

729
00:35:51,519 --> 00:35:53,599
of it and you would love to have that. Look anytime, Ben,

730
00:35:53,960 --> 00:35:56,760
you can bring in a guy that has next level

731
00:35:56,760 --> 00:35:59,199
of experience and I'm gonna go away this guy.

732
00:35:59,280 --> 00:35:59,960
Speaker 7: He doesn't get talked.

733
00:36:00,400 --> 00:36:01,840
Speaker 6: I think we need to put a request in and

734
00:36:01,920 --> 00:36:05,440
it's time, especially when Walker Lyons does well. Kevin Gilbride

735
00:36:05,559 --> 00:36:08,519
might not be talked about enough on this staff. The

736
00:36:08,559 --> 00:36:11,559
experience of the NFL and what Carson Ryan did in

737
00:36:11,599 --> 00:36:14,000
the run game and the blocking and along with that,

738
00:36:14,079 --> 00:36:17,559
with t J. Woods that sometimes doesn't always get noticed.

739
00:36:17,599 --> 00:36:17,800
Speaker 3: Ben.

740
00:36:17,840 --> 00:36:19,960
Speaker 7: And if you're able to bring in you know, you

741
00:36:20,000 --> 00:36:21,079
know Swarrensen.

742
00:36:21,159 --> 00:36:22,320
Speaker 6: If you're able to bring in a guy from the

743
00:36:22,400 --> 00:36:24,960
NFL to help, that is a lot you can give.

744
00:36:25,360 --> 00:36:28,239
It's like Rob Daniel, you see the cornerbacks develop and

745
00:36:28,239 --> 00:36:30,199
get Give you a guy that's played at the highest

746
00:36:30,280 --> 00:36:33,719
level training guys given that is going to be able

747
00:36:33,760 --> 00:36:35,840
to help them improve and develop. Look at Jake Robertson,

748
00:36:36,079 --> 00:36:38,400
you see Evan Johnson. I expect a big jump from

749
00:36:38,400 --> 00:36:41,679
Trey Alexander all of that because of time and effort

750
00:36:41,719 --> 00:36:43,360
in development with the guy at the next level. So

751
00:36:43,360 --> 00:36:45,239
it's critical, Ben, you have to have it. So I

752
00:36:45,239 --> 00:36:47,480
just wanted to highlight Kevin Gilbride because I believe what

753
00:36:48,039 --> 00:36:50,519
Carson Ryan did is one of the reasons why they're

754
00:36:50,559 --> 00:36:54,119
able to get Robertsili Apokola second and Walker Lions and

755
00:36:54,159 --> 00:36:56,199
have all of these other tight ends. We have Blake

756
00:36:56,199 --> 00:36:57,880
Bryce on the show. Remember he's on a mission, Ben,

757
00:36:57,880 --> 00:36:59,960
he's been here out He says, well, NFL tight end,

758
00:37:00,199 --> 00:37:02,400
NFL coach that's already been there, can help me get

759
00:37:02,400 --> 00:37:02,960
to the next level.

760
00:37:03,000 --> 00:37:04,639
Speaker 7: Those were his words, not mine.

761
00:37:04,920 --> 00:37:07,559
Speaker 6: So that has to account for something, Ben, because look

762
00:37:07,599 --> 00:37:09,920
at the basketball team, A coach's coach there, and now

763
00:37:09,920 --> 00:37:11,199
you want to come that's the reason.

764
00:37:11,280 --> 00:37:12,800
Speaker 7: So just wanted to give a tip of the cap

765
00:37:12,840 --> 00:37:13,039
to that.

766
00:37:13,719 --> 00:37:17,079
Speaker 3: Yes, indeed, look, I love the fact that they're bringing

767
00:37:17,119 --> 00:37:21,400
back also Danny Sorenson. I had heard rumblings that they

768
00:37:21,400 --> 00:37:25,159
were bringing back a former BYU great in the safetrum

769
00:37:25,159 --> 00:37:27,199
that had played in the NFL. That's all I was told,

770
00:37:27,679 --> 00:37:29,920
and so I whittled it down. I said, Okay, who

771
00:37:30,000 --> 00:37:32,760
could it be? Could it be Kinda Kua, Could it

772
00:37:32,800 --> 00:37:36,320
be Aaron Francisco, Could it be Andrew Rich Danny Sorenson.

773
00:37:36,800 --> 00:37:40,280
Apparently it's Danny Now nothing official yet. What role will

774
00:37:40,320 --> 00:37:46,920
he have within the defense? Whatever it is, it's gonna

775
00:37:46,920 --> 00:37:51,039
be impactful if you give. If you had given me

776
00:37:51,199 --> 00:37:54,519
access to a corner safety's coach that had been in

777
00:37:54,599 --> 00:37:58,159
the league for as long as Danny's been in the league,

778
00:37:58,159 --> 00:38:02,320
a guy that's tried and true, loyal, strong and true

779
00:38:02,360 --> 00:38:05,000
right as it, I mean, holy cow, man, I would

780
00:38:05,039 --> 00:38:06,719
have I would have eaten that up. I would have

781
00:38:06,760 --> 00:38:11,880
been working with him any waking moment. He's been in

782
00:38:11,960 --> 00:38:16,960
the league since two thousand and fourteen. That is a

783
00:38:17,320 --> 00:38:21,079
long career in the National Football League. That stands for

784
00:38:21,199 --> 00:38:24,159
not for long, like I said, the average. And he

785
00:38:24,280 --> 00:38:27,679
was an undrafted free agent, not a draft pick, not

786
00:38:27,760 --> 00:38:29,960
a mid round, not a first round, second, not even

787
00:38:29,960 --> 00:38:34,400
a late round. He was an undrafted free agent. Played

788
00:38:34,519 --> 00:38:37,239
in one hundred and twenty eight games in the National

789
00:38:37,239 --> 00:38:42,599
Football League, started forty one combined four hundred and thirty

790
00:38:42,599 --> 00:38:46,920
two tackles, four and a half sacks, thirty six PBUs,

791
00:38:47,559 --> 00:38:53,480
fourteen iron t's okay, four touchdowns for force fumbles, four

792
00:38:53,679 --> 00:39:01,199
fumble recoveries. You give me access to that as a player, man,

793
00:39:01,280 --> 00:39:03,159
I'm gonna absorb as much as I can from that.

794
00:39:03,280 --> 00:39:03,480
Speaker 5: Man.

795
00:39:03,679 --> 00:39:06,679
Speaker 3: And look, you lean into your your coaches as well.

796
00:39:07,199 --> 00:39:09,599
You know, like I said, the architecture, the culture. You

797
00:39:09,599 --> 00:39:13,920
buy into that. But your position coach can't always spend

798
00:39:13,960 --> 00:39:16,159
the amount of time that you want him to because

799
00:39:16,159 --> 00:39:19,239
he's out recruiting, and he's out and he's in the

800
00:39:19,280 --> 00:39:23,039
position meetings. He's kind of architecting. He's setting the pace,

801
00:39:23,679 --> 00:39:27,480
he's setting the culture. You need these skill developers to

802
00:39:27,519 --> 00:39:31,719
really maximize it. This is a very strategic and aggressive

803
00:39:31,800 --> 00:39:36,599
move to make sure that there is no drop off

804
00:39:36,679 --> 00:39:43,760
in the secondary in twenty twenty six. If you're Kalani, right,

805
00:39:43,800 --> 00:39:47,000
the last thing you want to hear about is how much.

806
00:39:48,079 --> 00:39:50,519
And I'm sure he's very happy for his guys, jay

807
00:39:51,119 --> 00:39:55,880
And and gav and Gennaro, very happy for them. But

808
00:39:55,920 --> 00:39:57,440
the last thing you want to hear from the media

809
00:39:57,599 --> 00:40:01,639
is what, man, we really missed those guys. We missed

810
00:40:01,639 --> 00:40:05,159
those guys. There's a drop off, yep. So you are

811
00:40:05,360 --> 00:40:10,920
acquiring talent and allocating resources to assure that this crew

812
00:40:11,639 --> 00:40:17,159
not only at worst this status quo, right, at best,

813
00:40:17,960 --> 00:40:20,920
it's better than it was even a season ago. That's

814
00:40:20,960 --> 00:40:22,400
what it sounds like to me. That's what it looks

815
00:40:22,440 --> 00:40:24,159
like to me. Ronald the three man Weaver.

816
00:40:24,000 --> 00:40:26,599
Speaker 6: I agree with you know, you don't want ben whenever

817
00:40:26,639 --> 00:40:30,039
a coach leaves or when you bring a coach in, right,

818
00:40:30,079 --> 00:40:32,599
that's what you want, Like you know, I always, like

819
00:40:32,599 --> 00:40:34,519
I always say, I always make it about basketball. Right

820
00:40:34,800 --> 00:40:36,679
when they decide, as we talked about this in the

821
00:40:36,679 --> 00:40:39,480
first hour, that they're gonna make personnel changes to the

822
00:40:39,559 --> 00:40:42,079
roster and maybe a staff change. The guy that you

823
00:40:42,159 --> 00:40:44,360
bring in, you want it to be better, right, because like, oh, well,

824
00:40:44,400 --> 00:40:46,039
we missed this guy all but same thing when the

825
00:40:46,079 --> 00:40:47,559
coach leaves up, there's a drop off.

826
00:40:47,800 --> 00:40:49,719
Speaker 7: You have to solidify that. And how do you do that?

827
00:40:49,760 --> 00:40:50,039
Speaker 5: Then?

828
00:40:50,280 --> 00:40:53,039
Speaker 6: The only way I know how is once you rebuild

829
00:40:53,039 --> 00:40:54,719
your staff is to go get a guy that's played

830
00:40:54,760 --> 00:40:55,960
at the next level it is.

831
00:40:56,039 --> 00:40:56,760
Speaker 7: You have to do that.

832
00:40:57,039 --> 00:41:00,440
Speaker 6: And they've done that, you know, right, even when Steve

833
00:41:00,440 --> 00:41:01,880
Clark was no longer to tie to this coast, they

834
00:41:01,920 --> 00:41:03,960
got a guy from the NFL. Now they're bringing in

835
00:41:04,000 --> 00:41:07,480
you know, supposed to Danny, a dirty Dan that's gonna help. Like,

836
00:41:07,519 --> 00:41:09,599
you can't have a drop off, not with a guy

837
00:41:09,880 --> 00:41:12,960
who has NFL aspirations and volatile saw to all who's

838
00:41:12,960 --> 00:41:15,440
the next level player? You have to keep that secondary

839
00:41:15,480 --> 00:41:17,639
the right way, Evan Johnson. Next level player, Trey has

840
00:41:17,639 --> 00:41:21,159
the potential. Liking what I've seen Ben and Klanie, look,

841
00:41:21,239 --> 00:41:26,840
you have to architect behind it, leading, leading, the captain, leadingship,

842
00:41:26,920 --> 00:41:28,320
driving it the captain.

843
00:41:28,360 --> 00:41:28,679
Speaker 7: Morna.

844
00:41:28,760 --> 00:41:30,280
Speaker 6: Maybe that's not the right person to compare it to,

845
00:41:30,400 --> 00:41:32,960
but Klanie's been leading these guys in the battle and

846
00:41:33,079 --> 00:41:34,800
you have to love every move that he's made. And

847
00:41:34,880 --> 00:41:36,400
what I really loved and't give enough love to A

848
00:41:36,400 --> 00:41:37,960
shout out to Wes Johnson on the promotion.

849
00:41:38,320 --> 00:41:38,880
Speaker 7: That's great.

850
00:41:39,199 --> 00:41:40,920
Speaker 6: A guy really did is grided his teeth well and

851
00:41:41,360 --> 00:41:42,960
U can't wait to see what they do. But I'm

852
00:41:43,000 --> 00:41:43,599
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a little college basketball Cougar sports. So let's get into

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a couple of soundbites here from uh mister Patino. That's right,

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he's he's talking the post game. Like Saint John'son has

886
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has been a good squad this year. They've had their

887
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ups and downs, no doubt about it. I felt like

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this particular SoundBite I retweeted. I shared it because it's, uh,

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it's always best as a head coach to recruit coachable athletes.

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And in the new era, the nil trans reportal mercenario,

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I would say era in which we're in, sometimes you

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don't always get coachable players, but it still resides on

893
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All right, let's see what Rick Patino had to say

912
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in his post game over the weekend.

913
00:44:50,519 --> 00:44:54,360
Speaker 8: A perfect player for coach with your sort of intensity

914
00:44:55,760 --> 00:44:58,800
deep search, share with us a little bit about the

915
00:44:58,920 --> 00:45:01,920
relationship to you and you have both a coaching player

916
00:45:01,960 --> 00:45:03,159
and maybe a person.

917
00:45:03,679 --> 00:45:06,760
Speaker 9: You know Roger. I get along great with every player

918
00:45:06,800 --> 00:45:11,360
that works hard. I don't get along with players that

919
00:45:11,400 --> 00:45:13,920
don't work hard. I feel when you put that Saint

920
00:45:14,000 --> 00:45:16,280
John's uniform on it, you put that Louisville uniform on

921
00:45:16,360 --> 00:45:20,559
Kentucky in providence of you coming to get better, you're

922
00:45:20,559 --> 00:45:23,760
coming to bring it every single day because the coaching

923
00:45:23,760 --> 00:45:25,239
says it's going to bring it every single day.

924
00:45:25,280 --> 00:45:26,400
Speaker 5: And that's Zubie.

925
00:45:27,039 --> 00:45:29,400
Speaker 9: So it's a great match because he brings it every

926
00:45:29,440 --> 00:45:33,280
single day. That's what the great ones do. And in

927
00:45:33,320 --> 00:45:36,000
the pros when I was coaching the Knicks Jackson and

928
00:45:36,000 --> 00:45:39,519
Ewing and Oakley and Johnny Newman and Joe Wilkins, and

929
00:45:39,559 --> 00:45:42,239
they brought it every single day and that's why we

930
00:45:42,320 --> 00:45:44,920
won fifty two games. So I get along great with

931
00:45:44,960 --> 00:45:48,119
the guys when you bring it. And Zubi's right. I

932
00:45:48,119 --> 00:45:51,320
get on Zubi just as much as I do Tamba,

933
00:45:52,639 --> 00:45:55,119
and they see that. You know, I give him a

934
00:45:55,159 --> 00:45:59,400
lot of love because he knows I love him. I

935
00:45:59,400 --> 00:46:02,800
said this all. It's a senior night for me with

936
00:46:02,920 --> 00:46:05,320
Zoobie is. I'm going to miss the hell out of

937
00:46:05,400 --> 00:46:07,079
him because I know I can count on him every

938
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single day giving it in every player development. Look how

939
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much he's improved his three point shooting, his foul shooting,

940
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his passing. He was an awful passer when he first

941
00:46:17,440 --> 00:46:20,679
came here. Now he's a great passer. So he's improved

942
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immensely because of working hard with player development. And I'm

943
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real proud of him.

944
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Speaker 3: So I love this. If you work hard, if you

945
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show up, you compete, you're a coachable player. I love you.

946
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I get along with you really well. If you don't,

947
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I don't get along with you. That's why I get

948
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along with this particular player I wonder if what BYU

949
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is experiencing. Okay, I'm I'm always you know, trying to

950
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take a SoundBite and apply to BYU athletics Ky when

951
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he goes in front of the pulpit after this West

952
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Virginia game, We're gonna get to that. We gotten to

953
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that soundbites as well. He goes, he goes off on

954
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a number of things he's had. He's got AJ and

955
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Rob next to him, which I think is a good

956
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thing because he's gonna hold them accountable. He's been calling

957
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them out throughout the back end of this this regular season,

958
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saying they got to elevate their leadership, they have to

959
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bring intensity. Uh, you know, he he's pretty open about that.

960
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I just don't know if AJ and Rob really care,

961
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because I mean, you see it at times more so

962
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like Rob. I think AJ does more so Rob. Like

963
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I don't know how much Rob really cares. And I

964
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lean into this new age mercenary effect. We were talking offline,

965
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Ronald the three Man Weaver and I we were just

966
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discussing is Rob right at BYU Cougar after this year

967
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or is he is he going elsewhere? And my response

968
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was I think Rob and I I don't want to

969
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be disrespectful here, but what it seems like the body language,

970
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the interactions between him and the media. I think he's

971
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the highest bidder guy. He's from Delaware, goes to way Go,

972
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goes to BYU. I think he's the highest bidder guy.

973
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I think whoever gives him the most value is where

974
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he goes. If that's at BYU, great, If that's at

975
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the in the NBA, great. I just don't know if

976
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he's an NBA ballplayer because he doesn't play defense. I

977
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just don't see it. It's a it's this phenomenon that

978
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I think it's I think it's called the hedonic adaptation

979
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in behavioral economics psychology. What it means is when people

980
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get a big reward, money, contract, fame, there's an emotional

981
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boost that fades quickly away. New level of success becomes

982
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the kind of that new normal because you have like

983
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this this uh the money now, and you may have

984
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gotten into the game, or you got to the point

985
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in the game in this basketball game that you've kind

986
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of reached this peak of success or like I don't

987
00:49:18,559 --> 00:49:22,360
really need much more than this. I don't need championships,

988
00:49:23,079 --> 00:49:27,239
I don't need an NCAA tournament run. I like the money.

989
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I mean I'm getting I'm getting a fair wage, a

990
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more than fair wage. Motivation is tied to the reward, right,

991
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and you already got the reward. So what are you

992
00:49:37,920 --> 00:49:41,480
working for? What is it? What's that competitive fire? Do

993
00:49:41,519 --> 00:49:43,360
you like winning or do you just or do you

994
00:49:43,400 --> 00:49:45,639
hate losing? I think most of these guys just kind

995
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of like winning and they like getting paid. So there's

996
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not this sense of urgency of like a contract here,

997
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because there's gonna be someone there willing to probably pay

998
00:49:56,239 --> 00:49:59,079
him just as much or more. If Rob Wright does

999
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not step up and start playing at a high rate,

1000
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I wonder if he's a Bayu Cougar next year. If

1001
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he if he if he doesn't start playing defense, I

1002
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wonder if he's a Bayu Cougar next year, do they

1003
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just let him walk? Many people have been discussing how

1004
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beneficial would be to have Dallen Hall on this team,

1005
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and I think there's there's a good point to be

1006
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made about it, because if Rob Right had someone competing

1007
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for minutes on the bench right now, I think he

1008
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probably would have been benched at times and someone would

1009
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have been inserted in his stead. Because he doesn't play defense.

1010
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He doesn't play good defense, he doesn't play defense at all. Sometimes, anyway,

1011
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if you're coachable, typically head coaches like you. If you

1012
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put in the work, you compete, they like it. If

1013
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you don't, I'm wondering if there's any friction there. I

1014
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just wonder with Ky and Rob Wright. That segment was

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