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<v Speaker 1>Toxid. This is the seventy seven w ABC Mini Cast.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, hi everybody, those of you are just yawning us.

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<v Speaker 1>Where have you been?

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<v Speaker 2>You can't be late for these things, you Know'll we

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<v Speaker 2>go on the ar at six o'clock, right after cousin Vinnie.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm my cousin Vinnie. And at six o'clock we go

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<v Speaker 2>on and now it's time for our visit. We have

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<v Speaker 2>weekly visits usually, right, and tonight's something very very special.

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<v Speaker 2>You think of velvet, beautiful, relaxed, happy harmony and beautiful people,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, you think about the fifth dimension, the fifth dimension,

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<v Speaker 2>and we have on our phones. We have a conference

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<v Speaker 2>call set up and we'll let me know, Kevin when

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<v Speaker 2>the other guys joined us. We're gonna have We have

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<v Speaker 2>Florence standing by and we are waiting for Maryland and Billy.

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<v Speaker 1>Hi, Flora's you there.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm here.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, Florence, so nice talking to you.

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<v Speaker 1>We're here, Oh oh you are?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh you're everybody joined. Nobody told me so, Billy. Let's

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<v Speaker 2>let's take a bold. This is an experiment for us.

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<v Speaker 2>So we have Florence you there, say here.

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<v Speaker 4>Here.

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like a teacher. Marilyn.

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<v Speaker 3>Are you here, I'm here.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh my gods, and Billy Iya, Billy, I heard you.

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<v Speaker 1>Good, Hey, hail, hail, the gang's all here. Good.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm so glad. This is like an experiment. You know, guys,

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<v Speaker 2>we've never done this. We've we said are one call,

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<v Speaker 2>and now we have you all in conference. Because you

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<v Speaker 2>deal with a fifth dimension, you deal with a very

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<v Speaker 2>different commodity, you deal with you you superstars. How you

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<v Speaker 2>guys feeling? You got to be elated? Now I have

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<v Speaker 2>in front of you, in front of me, your brand

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<v Speaker 2>new album, which is more than an album. How you

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<v Speaker 2>guys feeling about this?

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<v Speaker 3>It's amazing?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you know what, I'll tell you what we got

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<v Speaker 2>to do. I'm gonna say Florence, I'll say Maryland, and

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<v Speaker 2>I'll say Billy. Is that okay? And so we won't

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<v Speaker 2>talk over each other. This is a little rough because

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<v Speaker 2>we're looking. Yeah, that's good. And now I feel like

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<v Speaker 2>a school teacher. Okay, all right, so let's it. So Marylyn,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm looking at this brand new box set which is historic.

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<v Speaker 2>It looks like a history lesson and it was music

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<v Speaker 2>that the Sunshine in the Soul City and Ben Albums

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<v Speaker 2>sixty seven to seventy four. How do you feel about this,

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<v Speaker 2>this magnificent new release fift Dimension, Marylynd, You're gonna tell you.

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<v Speaker 5>Know, it's it's exciting.

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<v Speaker 6>It's exciting. It's nice to see it.

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<v Speaker 5>You know.

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<v Speaker 6>This is this is a project that we worked on

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<v Speaker 6>many years ago. But just to have it all together

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<v Speaker 6>at one time in front of us, of each one

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<v Speaker 6>of us, is amazing.

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<v Speaker 1>Florence, how long did this project take?

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<v Speaker 3>Oh my goodness. Well, you know, you know, the Rich

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<v Speaker 3>Fruit was on together for ten years and it's been

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<v Speaker 3>a long time since we've recorded together. It actually worked

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<v Speaker 3>on this problem problem project.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I'm sure there were problems too. That's you were right,

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<v Speaker 2>a Freudian slip.

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<v Speaker 3>But you know, we're all all doing different things. I

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<v Speaker 3>was still performing with the Fifth Dimension with other members

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<v Speaker 3>and Marilyn Billy were doing their thing, and then our

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<v Speaker 3>manager came by that why don't we put together, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>a box set. People can hear the music that you

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<v Speaker 3>did years ago. So we said, well, let's try it,

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<v Speaker 3>and that's how it came about.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, it was wonderful. It's such beautiful. You know, it's

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<v Speaker 2>not like a When I'm holding it, I know I

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<v Speaker 2>can feel the vibes. It's more than a box set.

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<v Speaker 2>It has historic significance because you guys gave us, gave

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<v Speaker 2>this audience so much, and I know the audience said

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<v Speaker 2>the same thing to you. So, Billy, how's your feeling.

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<v Speaker 2>You're looking at the you look at the album box set?

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<v Speaker 2>Look at those beautiful five people on there?

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<v Speaker 1>What do you think? Picture is great?

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<v Speaker 7>To tell you the truth, Brucie, I think they look

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<v Speaker 7>pretty good.

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<v Speaker 3>But I'm excited about.

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<v Speaker 7>It because it's like sixty years worth of work that

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<v Speaker 7>that the Pitt Dimension put together through the years, and

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<v Speaker 7>it's all all put in a compilation set here where

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<v Speaker 7>people can hear stuff that we did from nineteen sixty

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<v Speaker 7>five to nineteen seventy five. So it's I'm very excited

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<v Speaker 7>about it. And I've had a few people already tell

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<v Speaker 7>me that they've got it and started listening to it.

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<v Speaker 5>And they love it.

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<v Speaker 4>That fabulous And also, gri aren't also, I think it's

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<v Speaker 4>exciting to have the young people today who haven't even

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<v Speaker 4>heard the fist dimentions of listening to this music because

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<v Speaker 4>it's very.

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<v Speaker 3>Different from the music of today. And I'm very proud

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<v Speaker 3>of the music that we did. The harmonies and it's

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<v Speaker 3>very positive music. So I'm excited to have the young

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<v Speaker 3>people hear that type of music also.

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<v Speaker 2>Absolutely, you know if music has it, you know, no

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<v Speaker 2>matter what your age is the heart, the soul. There's

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<v Speaker 2>bones and muscle and sinew in music. It's an intellectual thing.

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<v Speaker 2>And I don't know if age has so much to

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<v Speaker 2>do with it as the feeling and the soul that

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<v Speaker 2>you put into something. So somebody, say who's twenty two,

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<v Speaker 2>today will have that same gut feeling, you know, a

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<v Speaker 2>feeling of love and romance and also the memories of

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<v Speaker 2>course for older people. Well, and you have done it.

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<v Speaker 2>So let's talk Florence. How did the fifth dimension that

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<v Speaker 2>it's an unusual name. Let's let's get the basics here.

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<v Speaker 2>How did you get the name?

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<v Speaker 3>Well, you know, when we first got together, we called

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<v Speaker 3>ourselves Diversatiles because there were five people with five very

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<v Speaker 3>different voices. You know. We had Ron who had more

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<v Speaker 3>of a classical sound, Billy was more R and B sound,

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<v Speaker 3>Marilynd and I think we both had more of a

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<v Speaker 3>a pop sound. So we called themselves Diversatiles. But then

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<v Speaker 3>the record company came to us and said, well, we

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<v Speaker 3>need something that's more. I don't know, it's different, and

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<v Speaker 3>they we put several names in the hat, you know.

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<v Speaker 3>And actually it was Ron Townsend who saw the fifth

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<v Speaker 3>dimension because there are five of us and we have

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<v Speaker 3>our dimension of music.

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<v Speaker 1>M Well.

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<v Speaker 3>Someone coined a phrase that I really liked. And because

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<v Speaker 3>we within our shows we did all kinds of music,

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<v Speaker 3>although our records were mainly pop, someone coined the phrase

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<v Speaker 3>champagne soul. I like that.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh that's pretty, you know that's that's that's fits Champagne

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<v Speaker 2>soldier like that, Billy?

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah, I like it too.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, it does. It fits the music physical. Where's Kevin.

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<v Speaker 2>It's Kevin in the room.

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<v Speaker 1>It's Kevin. Hey, Kevin. Do you have Heidi Ho for me?

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<v Speaker 1>And do you have that?

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<v Speaker 2>There's a Yeah, we're gonna let' see if we can

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<v Speaker 2>dig that. I know you have a medley and this

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<v Speaker 2>should be something. Yeah you do, all right, Billy, let's

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<v Speaker 2>talk about this now. And Florence, you and I talked

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<v Speaker 2>about this yesterday. I said to you, why do I

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<v Speaker 2>know Heidi Heidi Ho? And you told me there's a

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<v Speaker 2>photograph right over your mantelpiece with you and the guy

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<v Speaker 2>that gave us Heidi Ho. What is that all about?

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<v Speaker 3>Well, we were we were at a show. I was

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<v Speaker 3>at a show and Camp Calloway and I got to

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<v Speaker 2>So Camp Calloway was the one that I mean, we

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, I remember seeing that in black and white movies,

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<v Speaker 2>et cetera. And you see and you hear Camp Countaway

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<v Speaker 2>doing which became a classic so Billy in the album

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<v Speaker 2>you set, Yeah, you selected Heidi O.

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<v Speaker 1>Tell me about Heidi Heidi O. Why did you take

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<v Speaker 1>that song?

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<v Speaker 2>Do you remember who selected it?

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<v Speaker 7>We loved it so much because it said a lot

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<v Speaker 7>and uh and the harmonies, the harmonies, and it was

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<v Speaker 7>just just perfect for the group. And uh, and we

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<v Speaker 7>tried to get a little a little Ray Charles Field

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<v Speaker 7>in it, you know, a little guttie feel in it too,

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<v Speaker 7>so so kind of give it that the Champagne Souls.

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<v Speaker 1>Sound, you know, right, You tell what you did.

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<v Speaker 2>You took a Heidi hole must be my thirties or

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<v Speaker 2>something of the nineteen thirties at least, and then you

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<v Speaker 5>And probably yeah, at least that long ago.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, at least, And then you guys poured some

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<v Speaker 2>champagne on it and we got this.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's where's I want to play it? All right, let's

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<v Speaker 1>let's play a little.

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<v Speaker 2>Bit of this.

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<v Speaker 5>Would you?

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<v Speaker 1>Would you? Would you give me permission to play a

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<v Speaker 1>little Heidi Home? Yeah? Good so, cousins.

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<v Speaker 2>This is Billy Davis Union and from the Fifth Dimension's

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<v Speaker 2>brand new historic document that they call a box said,

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<v Speaker 2>I call it a document the Fifth Dimension. Listen to this.

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<v Speaker 2>Listen Heidi Hole and today with champagne on it. Hi there, Hi,

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<v Speaker 2>they Hole. So that's from the duel album The Fifth Dimension.

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<v Speaker 2>That is well, you know, I was just thinking, well,

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<v Speaker 2>I was listening to that Lillian, Marilyn Florence, and that's

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<v Speaker 2>what we're talking about, Billy Davis, You and you, we

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<v Speaker 2>have a Florence LaRue and the Marilyn McCool The Fifth Dimension.

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<v Speaker 2>Our loves our our next door neighbors. That's how I feel,

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<v Speaker 2>you guys, next door neighbors with Cap Cali. I wonder

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<v Speaker 2>how do you think Cap Callaway would feel about listening

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<v Speaker 2>to Heidi Hole in the twenty twenty.

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<v Speaker 1>Six by you guys? What do you think? What do

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<v Speaker 1>you think? It's said?

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<v Speaker 5>I did get a kick out of it.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, I think, I think. I think Tad Callaway would

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<v Speaker 6>say that is very interesting, totally a totally different direction

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<v Speaker 6>sound of the music that he came from. But you know,

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<v Speaker 6>the Fifth Dimension we had our own sound and our

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<v Speaker 6>own music, and I think that's that's one of the

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<v Speaker 6>things that made us such an exciting group.

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<v Speaker 2>Absolutely, well, you are absolutely originals. And yet you know

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<v Speaker 2>what I loved about you because I saw you. But

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<v Speaker 2>I'm a fan. I'm a big fan of girls, and

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<v Speaker 2>I saw you a couple times in concert, and every

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<v Speaker 2>time I saw you, I just felt as I said, oh,

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<v Speaker 2>there are my neighbors, my next door neighbors. You feel

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<v Speaker 2>so you make people feel comfortable. Guys, that's what it is.

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<v Speaker 2>You have this comfort zone that is so amazing, absolutely amazing.

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<v Speaker 2>So let's see, Billy, do you have a favorite to

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<v Speaker 2>Fifth Dimension song? Curious about that? Of all the songs,

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<v Speaker 2>do you have a favorite?

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<v Speaker 7>Well, I mean you because of Rusie. You know, we

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<v Speaker 7>did so many songs until uh, one of one of

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<v Speaker 7>our favorites is leave a Little Room.

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<v Speaker 2>And how about you, Marilyn, what do you have a favorite?

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<v Speaker 2>And that's not fair to ask you this, but do

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<v Speaker 2>you have a favorite thing, get a little bit something extra.

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<v Speaker 6>Well, you know, there's there's so many songs and so

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<v Speaker 6>many directions that the Fifth Dimensions has done because our

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<v Speaker 6>voices were different, our sounds were different. We loved, we

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<v Speaker 5>We worked with some.

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<v Speaker 6>Wonderful songwriters, and I think that was what was made

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<v Speaker 6>what made the group so interesting, the fact that that

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<v Speaker 6>our voices were so different and had such a different

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<v Speaker 6>sound to each.

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<v Speaker 5>One of us. What's your favorites?

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<v Speaker 6>Oh my, okay, Billy just said yes, but you didn't

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<v Speaker 6>answer the question. What was my favorite?

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<v Speaker 5>Oh lord, okay, I had a few.

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<v Speaker 3>I had a few.

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<v Speaker 6>There was one called It'll Never Be the Same Again.

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<v Speaker 6>I loved that one very much.

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<v Speaker 5>And a Broken Wing Bird. I mean I could give you.

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<v Speaker 6>Song after song.

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<v Speaker 5>One song that we did with Aquarius Let the Sunshine In.

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<v Speaker 6>That was one of our biggest hits, and it was

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<v Speaker 6>it was just it went in a whole different direction.

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<v Speaker 6>And you know, our listeners, our audiences, they never really

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<v Speaker 2>Well, that's that's what with the magic of the fifth mention.

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<v Speaker 2>How about you, Florence, do you have a favorite.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, first of all, my favorite album and the album

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<v Speaker 3>which was not our biggest seller, called The Magic Gardens.

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<v Speaker 3>It was a beautiful album. Actually Jimmy Wabb wrote it

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<v Speaker 3>and it was about a love a love relationship that

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<v Speaker 3>he had with the young lady. And there there was

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<v Speaker 3>a very interesting song when they called Rosecrans Boulevard, which

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<v Speaker 3>is just beautiful, and the whole album I just really

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<v Speaker 3>really like. And it's funny. I really enjoy sitting you're

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<v Speaker 3>listening to this music, because you know, when when we're working,

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<v Speaker 3>we're out doing other things. I don't really get a

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<v Speaker 3>chance to sit and listen to us I love. I'm

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<v Speaker 3>very crouded and listen to our harmony.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, well that's that's what makes it such magic. And

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<v Speaker 2>then when when an artist like you and stars like

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<v Speaker 2>you says you, I like to listen to my view,

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<v Speaker 2>listen to the music, and first of all, you learned

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<v Speaker 2>to listen to enjoy it. But you learn every time

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<v Speaker 2>you listen to something. It's like me, every time I

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<v Speaker 2>listen to one of my shows, I learned something. You

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<v Speaker 2>never you never really get full with learning. You learn

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<v Speaker 2>something every single time. Well, you know Maryland, really yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>Magic Guard album that I like is one of the

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<v Speaker 3>Worst that Could Happen, which we didn't release as a single,

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<v Speaker 3>but the Brooklyn Bridge recorded it because we had another

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<v Speaker 3>song out at the time. But Rose Fans Boulevard and

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<v Speaker 3>the Worst that Could Happen there two of my favorites

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<v Speaker 3>to mention songs.

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<v Speaker 2>Beautiful, the great songs, really great songs, you know, Marilyn

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<v Speaker 2>and Billy Florence. We had them at one of my

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<v Speaker 2>in the New Jersey and very.

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<v Speaker 1>Different, very different to beautiful. It wasn't that a beautiful.

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<v Speaker 2>With thousands and thousands and thousands of people just they

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<v Speaker 1>Nobody blinked.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know if you obviously you were aware, you

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<v Speaker 2>were aware of the audience. Send me some big audience

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<v Speaker 2>and nobody blinked for me. But he just and he

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<v Speaker 2>just stayed and they were mesmerized.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, it was really nice.

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<v Speaker 7>That was a show we did with Darlene Love.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, yes, I buta you know that is I hope

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<v Speaker 2>that we can have you.

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<v Speaker 1>Some eight Florence.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't want to do I say anything I shouldn't say,

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<v Speaker 2>but is there any possibility someday that see the three

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<v Speaker 2>of you together.

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<v Speaker 1>Is there any any thought about that?

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<v Speaker 3>You never know, we thought, you know, we thought of it.

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<v Speaker 3>We'll see what happens. You put it to all in

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<v Speaker 3>God's tams.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, I think, well.

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<v Speaker 3>You'll be together to do something.

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<v Speaker 1>You know.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, if you have anything quickly, you'd like to say

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<v Speaker 2>to the audience. So the three of you, this audience,

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<v Speaker 2>that's something with you, Billy.

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<v Speaker 5>Well, I'd just like to thank the audience for for

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<v Speaker 5>for supporting us for all.

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<v Speaker 7>These years and and just just being there to to

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<v Speaker 7>listen to our music and that we've we've had a

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<v Speaker 7>love affair with our audience. So it's it's really been good.

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<v Speaker 7>I mean, we have been truly blessed, and I'd just

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<v Speaker 7>like to thank them for supporting us all these years.

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<v Speaker 1>Wonderful. What about.

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<v Speaker 5>This this entire project.

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<v Speaker 6>We've been so pleased about it because, uh, it's it's

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<v Speaker 6>a wonderful uh example of the sound that came from

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<v Speaker 6>the group, from the fifth dimension, and the different voices,

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<v Speaker 6>the different the different styles of our singing and our

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<v Speaker 6>whole album project is a beautiful.

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<v Speaker 5>Example of the work that we have done over the

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<v Speaker 5>over the how many how many years now, baby, over

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<v Speaker 5>the years for sixty years, you know.

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<v Speaker 6>And so we feel so good about it and we

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<v Speaker 6>just we we feel like the people will be mesmerized

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<v Speaker 6>and amazed by the sound that came from the group.

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<v Speaker 1>We all loved it. And Florence, how about you, would

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<v Speaker 1>you like to say some give the.

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<v Speaker 3>Buildings we know because xuse me. First of all, I

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<v Speaker 3>could thank God for the opportunity to because when I

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<v Speaker 3>joined I wasn't even a singer. I was planning on,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, doing more acting. So I thank God for

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<v Speaker 3>the opportunity of having a career in music and singing.

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<v Speaker 3>And I really what I really enjoyed doing, uh after

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<v Speaker 3>I got over you know, putting my ego so I'm

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<v Speaker 3>trying to you know, sing and sound good. I really

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<v Speaker 3>enjoyed communicating with the audience, with the people. I enjoyed

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<v Speaker 3>the fact that our music lifted them up. And sometimes,

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<v Speaker 3>as a matter of fact, sometimes you see young people

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<v Speaker 3>there who really didn't want to come to the didn't

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<v Speaker 3>know anything about the fifth dimension, this comthing that you're

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<v Speaker 3>Then after the show, they come, hey, you guys were great.

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<v Speaker 3>We really enjoyed. So we really have the chance to

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<v Speaker 3>bring together ages, did people, different races, different ages, nationalities.

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<v Speaker 3>It was, it was really a wonderful opportunity. And I

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<v Speaker 3>do thank my audience for, as Billy's Maryland said, for

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<v Speaker 3>supporting us and for supporting our music.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you so much, Thank you so much. Guys.

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<v Speaker 2>Listen wonderful Billy Billy Davis, and you, Marilyn McCool, Florence LaRue,

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<v Speaker 2>thank you, long may you wave in Florence.

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<v Speaker 1>I listen to what you said.

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<v Speaker 2>There's almost a promise there that maybe something would happen.

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<v Speaker 2>Tell you what we're gonna do now, Kevin, let's take

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<v Speaker 2>that break, guys, thank you so much. We love you,

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<v Speaker 2>We love you. I love you all right, and let's

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<v Speaker 2>take a little break now, and then we're gonna hear

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<v Speaker 2>the medley of the great music that they gave us,

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<v Speaker 2>that Champagne, Champagne music.

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<v Speaker 1>I'll be back in a moment.