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<v Speaker 1>It's nice eyes, Dan Ray unknowing you Mazy Boston's News Radio.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, we have spent two hours and we're going

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<v Speaker 2>to continue to talk about this because I think we've

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<v Speaker 2>had some interesting callers, and we've had some different voices,

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<v Speaker 2>and we've had some familiar voices, but we've had more

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<v Speaker 2>different voices than familiar voices. And I thank everyone. We

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<v Speaker 2>began talking about this. At nine o'clock last night, the

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<v Speaker 2>Brockton City Council voted to being homeless encampments in the

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<v Speaker 2>City of Brockton. According to a city council with whom

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<v Speaker 2>we spoke earlier this evening, our council is Shirley Asak,

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<v Speaker 2>there's a group of about fifty sixty maybe seventy, chronically

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<v Speaker 2>homeless people who are basically camping on public property, and

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<v Speaker 2>they are doing everything else human beings do in private

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<v Speaker 2>on public property.

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<v Speaker 3>If you get my drift, which raises.

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<v Speaker 2>The question of what should be done, what can be done? Well,

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<v Speaker 2>City of brock then has taken a step, and whether

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<v Speaker 2>you agree or disagree, let's talk about it. Six one seven, two, five, four,

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<v Speaker 2>ten thirty. Those lines are full. The only line that

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<v Speaker 2>has opened a six one seven nine three one, ten thirty.

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<v Speaker 2>We've had a variety of viewpoints, which is really gratifying,

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<v Speaker 2>and the lines are now awful. So let's keep rolling

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<v Speaker 2>and we're going to go to Matt. Matt, you are

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<v Speaker 2>first up this hour at nightside.

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<v Speaker 3>Welcome back, Matt, Hey, Dan, how you done? You're just

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<v Speaker 3>great man? What are your thoughts on this?

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<v Speaker 4>All? Right?

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<v Speaker 5>So I want to get a couple of and I

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<v Speaker 5>want to be quick so everybody else can get in.

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<v Speaker 5>Let me make a couple of quick comments. In college

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<v Speaker 5>and growing up, not only in nass but down in Florida,

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<v Speaker 5>I've seen the opioid academic affect many many people. Let

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<v Speaker 5>me state I think the idea one of your callers made,

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<v Speaker 5>because there is one in the United States since twenty

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<v Speaker 5>twenty two in New York and injection clinic. Now at

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<v Speaker 5>that clinic, I just want to be clear being no

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<v Speaker 5>nurses or anybody are injecting or bringing the substances to you.

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<v Speaker 5>But if you were an overdose there, you are supervised.

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<v Speaker 5>And there were no deaths over a year and a

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<v Speaker 5>half span except when they were closed. And this was

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<v Speaker 5>in the city of New York. I don't know which

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<v Speaker 5>euro occurred, but when they were closed. It did, so

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<v Speaker 5>I want to say that that's an idea. However, with

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<v Speaker 5>that being the oversight, I think that police, you know,

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<v Speaker 5>down a mass ad and down in other places and

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<v Speaker 5>stuff like that, that alcoholism and things of other you know,

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<v Speaker 5>just impoverishment or just not be able to find job placement.

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<v Speaker 5>There are people who might be rightfully unemployed and homeless,

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<v Speaker 5>who maybe drug addicts or who may not be.

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<v Speaker 6>It's not my.

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<v Speaker 5>Place to decide which of that sixty people are in

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<v Speaker 5>Brockton or not because I don't know. But the police

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<v Speaker 5>will chase you out.

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<v Speaker 7>The police will chase you out.

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<v Speaker 5>People sleep on the train on the key. This is

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<v Speaker 5>not new that Broughton saying that brought and they're rough

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<v Speaker 5>one of the rougher neighborhoods in the state. I wouldn't

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<v Speaker 5>say that that's new that they're saying that. Now, will

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<v Speaker 5>you know, you know, detain you because there are many

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<v Speaker 5>people who will find that a natural benefit, people who

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<v Speaker 5>really dont people who are truly homeless. And it's to

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<v Speaker 5>be a very cold as it's starting to and for

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<v Speaker 5>a couple of months, you know, a public intoxication misdemeanor

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<v Speaker 5>charge is not going to be a turn for a

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<v Speaker 5>fifty year old. We may have five or six to

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<v Speaker 5>these charges already and now get you know, three squares.

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<v Speaker 5>My bottom line is that we need to address the

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<v Speaker 5>main problem in the state with whatever it may be.

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<v Speaker 5>And I don't think it's during incarceration. But I don't

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<v Speaker 5>think it's through a handout either, making it easy to

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<v Speaker 5>say that you could be homeless. But the bottom line

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<v Speaker 5>is that what Broxton is doing is not the answer.

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<v Speaker 5>And I think that they ultimately need to have funding

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<v Speaker 5>where it's put up on a certain level equal to

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<v Speaker 5>the level with that right now or less defined proper

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<v Speaker 5>for housing, or at least allow these people to encamp.

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<v Speaker 5>Thank you, Okay, fair enough.

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<v Speaker 3>All right, Matt. Interesting points.

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<v Speaker 2>You made a number of points there and some of them.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, interesting points. Thanks Matt, appreciate it.

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<v Speaker 5>Okay, Okay, keep growing here.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's it will continue along. I don't want want to

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<v Speaker 2>get to people. Mark and Muburn. You have been patient,

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<v Speaker 2>you waited through the news. You're next one.

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<v Speaker 3>Nice.

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<v Speaker 8>I go ahead, Mark, I Dan. I just want to

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<v Speaker 8>say you've got the best job on the planet. I

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<v Speaker 8>would love to get into that anyway.

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<v Speaker 3>I got to be honest with me.

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<v Speaker 2>You have to learn to listen, and you also have

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<v Speaker 2>to know when to try to move the conversation.

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<v Speaker 3>So it's, yes, agreed, challenge to it.

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<v Speaker 8>There's a challenge, agreed. Well, here's something that might open

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<v Speaker 8>up a whole new can of worms to keep the

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<v Speaker 8>conversation going, which is what we like.

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<v Speaker 3>Love it? Yeah, I love it.

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<v Speaker 8>Yes. Well, first of all, the big issue is funding.

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<v Speaker 8>Where's this money going to come from? And nobody wants

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<v Speaker 8>to raise tax revenue. However, there's a lot of text,

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<v Speaker 8>there are a lot of subsidies that have already been

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<v Speaker 8>given out, and personally, I'm an atheist, so I think

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<v Speaker 8>you can see where this is going. I would say

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<v Speaker 8>to the churches, if you want to keep your tax

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<v Speaker 8>exempt status, you use some of your buildings, your basements

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<v Speaker 8>or whatever and help us with this problem. And it

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<v Speaker 8>could actually be a good thing because churches have a

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<v Speaker 8>fantastic way of getting people into recovery. They can recruit

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<v Speaker 8>people for the clergy, and I think another solution might

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<v Speaker 8>be people who are well enough to enter into military

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<v Speaker 8>service if they can get a special dispensation or whatever

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<v Speaker 8>blah blah blah, or another like a city year kind

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<v Speaker 2>Well, yeah, you'll say, raise three questions. Okay, respond churches

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<v Speaker 2>do a lot of this stuff already. It's to compel

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<v Speaker 2>at church. I do think that they you could use

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<v Speaker 2>that as a little bit of leverage in terms of

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<v Speaker 2>how much the churches. The churches are not taxed and

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<v Speaker 2>they do not pay. Even schools are taxed, and and

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<v Speaker 2>most schools and universities pay a payment in lieu of taxes,

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<v Speaker 2>churches are not taxed.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know if you can use that as leverage

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<v Speaker 3>on churches.

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<v Speaker 8>I'm a big fan of removing tax exempt status for

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<v Speaker 8>religion because I don't want to subsidize it.

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<v Speaker 3>Totally. Get it, totally.

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<v Speaker 2>And by the way, the churches do great work in

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<v Speaker 2>terms of educating people and in terms of hospitals, so

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<v Speaker 2>they don't write a check every year. Private institutions do

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<v Speaker 2>Harvard and MIT and BU and Northeastern, they will write

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<v Speaker 2>a check and they will also do like scholarships. But

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<v Speaker 2>but churches are loath to write a check, and they

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<v Speaker 2>will point to all the good they do.

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<v Speaker 3>So that's number one.

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<v Speaker 2>In terms of the military, the military, they have become

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<v Speaker 2>a very professional branch and they do not view their

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<v Speaker 2>their purpose as social service. And the idea about you know,

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<v Speaker 2>the old days, it used to be that someone got

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<v Speaker 2>in trouble, the kid was eighteen years old, and the

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<v Speaker 2>jander say, oh look you're either going to go to jail,

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<v Speaker 2>you're going to join the military.

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<v Speaker 8>Absolutely, a kid that the.

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<v Speaker 3>Military could deal with.

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<v Speaker 2>But if you say someone who's drug addicted and say

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<v Speaker 2>to the military, we want you to kind of work

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<v Speaker 2>with this guy, that's gonna be tough, that's well.

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<v Speaker 8>But no, but the but the brain surgeon, the neurosis.

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<v Speaker 8>You know, there are going to be some people who

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<v Speaker 8>I think could be put into that, pushed in that direction,

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<v Speaker 8>who can be become I can't think of the word

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<v Speaker 8>right now because I'm cold medication, but you know.

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<v Speaker 3>It can be rehabilitated.

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<v Speaker 8>You mean, yes, yes, absolutely, well.

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<v Speaker 2>In terms in terms of the story that Mike told

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<v Speaker 2>from Lynn, I think that's who you're referring to.

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<v Speaker 8>Fantastic story. By the way, well it.

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<v Speaker 2>Is a fantastic story. But you have to realize that

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<v Speaker 2>one is the person as a lawyer now I speak

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<v Speaker 2>to you. One is the is the the person who

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<v Speaker 2>claims to reinsurch in telling Mike the truth.

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<v Speaker 3>So you have those sorts of but are the people

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<v Speaker 3>whose lives fall apart.

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<v Speaker 2>Sure, yes, absolutely, there are lawyers who end up with

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<v Speaker 2>alcohol serious alcoholic drug problems. Absolutely absolutely those people can

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<v Speaker 2>be rehabilitated. But if you're some fifty year old who's

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<v Speaker 2>a drug addict at this point and you've been involved

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<v Speaker 2>with drugs for a.

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<v Speaker 8>Long time, yeah, well that's why I was thinking something

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<v Speaker 8>like Peace Corps or City Corps or something in that perspective.

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<v Speaker 2>City here, those are all great programs, and if you

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<v Speaker 2>can find someone who's willing to participate in that program

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<v Speaker 2>with some discipline, I think those are all good suggestions.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean that I'm not patronizing you here. I think

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<v Speaker 2>those are all No.

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<v Speaker 8>I understand, yeah, I understand it. And I was trying

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<v Speaker 8>to think outside the box in ways that will not

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<v Speaker 8>cause more capital, an extra outlay of public funding, if

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<v Speaker 8>you know what I'm saying, use the infrastructure that's already there.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and you did think outside the box. And by

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<v Speaker 2>the way, the public funding isn't going to be there.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, we're looking we have a trillion a thirty

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<v Speaker 2>six thirty seven trillion dollar deficit debts, a federal debt,

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<v Speaker 2>meaning that's what oh, a deficit is how much money

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<v Speaker 2>from year to year. So our federal deficit is maybe

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<v Speaker 2>a couple of trillion, but you got to put that

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<v Speaker 2>on top of the thirty five trillion.

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<v Speaker 3>That's why you get to thirty seven. It's like absolutely right,

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<v Speaker 3>those credit cards.

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<v Speaker 8>And the question is is you know, are we going

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<v Speaker 8>to be facing austerity measures like Ireland did a few

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<v Speaker 8>years ago. But that's another discussion. For another reason, it

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<v Speaker 8>is yes, it is.

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<v Speaker 3>Hey, this is your first.

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<v Speaker 8>Time calling, right, No, I've called a few times, and

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<v Speaker 8>I under the mistaken impression that I had to come

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<v Speaker 8>up with something that would solve the problem, not to

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<v Speaker 8>keep the discussion going. Now I realize part of your

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<v Speaker 8>job is keeping this discussion going and introducing new ideas

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<v Speaker 8>and looking at new perspectives so that the discussion is

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<v Speaker 8>continued and even impossibly deepened.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, well you just helped me. You helped me.

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<v Speaker 8>Thank you. Okay, Like I said, I think you've got

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<v Speaker 8>the best job on the planet.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, let me ask it. I'm just curious.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, sure, I think the best job on the planet,

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<v Speaker 2>pot probably is playing center field for the Red Sox

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<v Speaker 2>or something. But I have a little past aage. What

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<v Speaker 2>type of work do you do? You sound like a

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<v Speaker 2>really bright guy, well spoken. What sort of work do

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<v Speaker 2>you do generally.

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<v Speaker 8>We talked before. I'm a rare coin dealer, Oh right, right, right, yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 8>I'm a paralegal. I have a degree in English literature.

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<v Speaker 8>I've studied history, I've done a little bit of everything

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<v Speaker 8>in my fifty eight years, and right now I'm dealing

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<v Speaker 9>The the market oftened, the market what the market is

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<v Speaker 2>The coin market fascinates me too, because I'm somebody who

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<v Speaker 2>weak pennies from nineteen forty three, I get it, and

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<v Speaker 2>they're not worth They're worth maybe a nickel maybe, So maybe.

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<v Speaker 8>You never know when you're going to find a nineteen

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<v Speaker 8>fourteen with D penny or nineteen fifty five double dye

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<v Speaker 8>or nineteen twenty one. There are a few key dates

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<v Speaker 8>you know either that are sitting in front of the

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<v Speaker 8>TV right.

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<v Speaker 3>Thanks Mark, I appreciate your call was great.

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<v Speaker 8>A pleasure talking with you right.

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<v Speaker 3>Back at you. You could do this job, by the way.

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<v Speaker 8>You're you're you would love you to.

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<v Speaker 3>I know, I believe me, so don't take my job

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<v Speaker 3>for me. But but you.

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<v Speaker 8>Could do what A DJ in college as well?

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<v Speaker 3>Well?

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<v Speaker 2>WRU Union College, Oh, Union College, great in.

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<v Speaker 3>The the the the alba mater of Chester.

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<v Speaker 8>A Arthur a Arthur. Wow, you get twenty extra points

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<v Speaker 8>for that.

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<v Speaker 2>There are not many talk show hosts of America who

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<v Speaker 2>can cite Chester A. Arthur from his statue at Union College.

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<v Speaker 8>But and one of the least controversial presidents in the

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<v Speaker 8>history of our country.

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<v Speaker 3>This is true, This is true.

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<v Speaker 2>But it was a it was an interesting time period

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<v Speaker 2>in the eighteen eighties, Oh definitely.

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<v Speaker 8>I mean that was right after reconstruction kind of collapsed.

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<v Speaker 8>And that's another subject for another time.

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<v Speaker 3>Thanks Mark, We talk soon, Okay. I love the call.

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<v Speaker 8>I look forward to it. Have a wonderful night.

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<v Speaker 3>Back at you.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, got to take a break. I got Mary. Actually

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<v Speaker 2>we've got Mark and Cambridge coming up. I got Karen

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<v Speaker 2>Mike and Lynn, and I got some room for you

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<v Speaker 2>if you want to give us a call.

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<v Speaker 3>Six thirty is the only line open. Coming right back

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<v Speaker 3>on Nightside.

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<v Speaker 1>Now back to Dan Ray live from the Window World

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<v Speaker 1>night Side Studios on WBZ News Radio.

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<v Speaker 2>Next up is Mark, a different Mark. This one's in Cambridge,

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<v Speaker 2>Mark and Cambridge. Next on Nightside. Your thoughts, my friend,

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<v Speaker 7>Thank you Dan for taking my call. This is Market

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<v Speaker 7>Central Square, Cambridge. Yeah, I agree with. I agree with

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<v Speaker 7>the city councils in blockton YEP and just like Cambridge.

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<v Speaker 7>Like I said, I live in Central Square and they

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<v Speaker 7>just recently removed the benches from the bus depots because

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<v Speaker 7>everybody's hanging out there. That's that that is not hitting

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<v Speaker 7>on MBTA. They're hanging out there. They're doing open market

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<v Speaker 7>drug use.

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<v Speaker 6>I mean it, mass.

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<v Speaker 2>Let me ask you, Mark, and all you know tell me.

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<v Speaker 2>I know you'll tell me the truth. Are you you

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<v Speaker 2>know you selling here a young guy? Uh So I'm

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<v Speaker 2>asking you. Do you ever feel intimidated as you're walking,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, through Central Square at any different time during

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<v Speaker 2>the day or do these folks just kind of state

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<v Speaker 2>to themselves or do they Are they ever intimidating?

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<v Speaker 7>Well not to me. I'm a big guy. I'm six

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<v Speaker 7>feet two inches three hundred and forty pounds.

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<v Speaker 2>You could play for the Patriots, man, you could play

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<v Speaker 2>for the Patriots.

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<v Speaker 3>They they were looking for some offensive line. But we

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<v Speaker 3>could have got you a job.

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<v Speaker 7>You know, why why? I just need to get knees.

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<v Speaker 10>I get too knee placements.

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<v Speaker 7>Ie to work out every day. But anyway, just recently,

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<v Speaker 7>just Saturday, I I one in my building. I'm frankly star.

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<v Speaker 7>I went in my building and I'm like, what are

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<v Speaker 7>you doing through? I mean, oh, I'm looking for somebody. No, no, no, no,

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<v Speaker 7>you trying to take packages. So I in the the

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<v Speaker 7>you know, the the sogeant in the Cambridge Police department

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<v Speaker 7>which covers Central Square, and he came and escorted them out.

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<v Speaker 7>I mean, you don't wear gloves in the summertime, right,

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<v Speaker 7>I mean, but you know they they defecate there by

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<v Speaker 7>the management office, they urinate, you know. I mean, it

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<v Speaker 7>is a problem. I mean, everybody has untold story. I

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<v Speaker 7>understand that, I get it, but I mean on this,

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<v Speaker 7>I mean, I mean, I think it's a good idea

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<v Speaker 7>for Boughton and you know what, they shouldn't acted in Cambridge.

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<v Speaker 7>I mean I just went down math and cast. Yeah there,

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<v Speaker 7>I'm a tow truck try without math and cast, and

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<v Speaker 7>they got the jersey value from math and cast back

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<v Speaker 7>to hand the street, which but with that, they're making

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<v Speaker 7>people walk onto men in the cast, which I don't

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<v Speaker 7>think you should be allowed because I mean, person, it's

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<v Speaker 7>it's it's it's.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, we thought that that had been solved. Remember,

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<v Speaker 2>they've been a big show of it. They sent the

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<v Speaker 2>police down there one night. They took all of the

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<v Speaker 2>test out and my understanding, I haven't been back there,

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<v Speaker 2>but my understanding is that's pretty much back.

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<v Speaker 7>All they did was just spread it out. They were

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<v Speaker 7>massive casts. The other sweet they're off of massat by

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<v Speaker 7>U Haul. They're over there. The women are doing prostitution.

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<v Speaker 7>I see this. I'm always in the area anyway. I'm

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<v Speaker 7>a tow truck operator, so I'm always doing triple A cars.

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<v Speaker 7>I've seen them there. They're there and Cambridges. I mean,

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<v Speaker 7>at least they have the warming center in Central Square.

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<v Speaker 7>But for most people that want to go in, it's

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<v Speaker 7>that don't want to go in. And when I come

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<v Speaker 7>home at three o'clock in the morning, they're still out

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<v Speaker 7>there by Citizen Bank in Central Square, mass AFT.

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<v Speaker 10>I mean a few of them.

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<v Speaker 7>There's fuel them at the Bank of America.

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<v Speaker 3>Shame on, Shame on Cambridge. The cambridge doesn't move them

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<v Speaker 3>and say, come on, guys, let's go. It's three o'clock

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<v Speaker 3>in the morning. Time to go home.

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<v Speaker 7>Nope, they don't do it. Nope, absolutely not.

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<v Speaker 3>So you're you're a tow truck You're a tow truck driver.

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<v Speaker 2>With your size, no one's gonna no one's gonna fight

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<v Speaker 2>with you when you hook that car.

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<v Speaker 7>I assume no, I mean now, and then you get

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<v Speaker 7>somebody else to argue. But like I said, I do

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<v Speaker 7>tip away. So I'm not really into the trust pass.

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<v Speaker 3>You're not a repo guy. God, you got it right.

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<v Speaker 7>Hey, darn listen. I appreciate you taking my car, but

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<v Speaker 7>like I said, it is a it's a it's a

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<v Speaker 7>it's a it's a country epidemic. It's just everywhere.

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<v Speaker 6>I mean.

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<v Speaker 2>But let me tell you, I I I really appreciate

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<v Speaker 2>your perspective, and I appreciate you calling my program, and

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<v Speaker 2>please continue to do so.

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<v Speaker 6>Okay, I won't thank you very much, Thank you much.

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<v Speaker 7>Have a good night.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, buddy, all right, let me get Karen in Wisconsin. Karen,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm going to get you in here before the news.

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<v Speaker 3>How are you tonight.

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<v Speaker 11>I'm fine, very sad.

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<v Speaker 2>I assume that that has that relates to the election.

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<v Speaker 11>No, what we're talking about.

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<v Speaker 3>It's just okay, good.

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<v Speaker 11>Got you. Well, yeah, I'm sad about that. You know,

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<v Speaker 11>I can't do two things once. I'm just on your topic.

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<v Speaker 11>I've said this before, and I was part of it

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<v Speaker 11>in the it was the eighties, but there was help,

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<v Speaker 11>and the funding was taken away. Now at this point

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<v Speaker 11>we've got I don't know where the funding comes from,

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<v Speaker 11>but you've got to make choices between you know, you've

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<v Speaker 11>got to fund and help people and build places to

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<v Speaker 11>help them, or you've got this problem to deal with.

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<v Speaker 11>And this is what you've got. And so I know

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<v Speaker 11>a woman that in Met State, she drank so bad

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<v Speaker 11>that her whole jaw was so shut, and they finally

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<v Speaker 11>committed her for a year. And the crime was because

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<v Speaker 11>she couldn't quit drinking and she was cost you know,

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<v Speaker 11>she was a liability to herself and everyone else. So

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<v Speaker 11>there was help then, and now there isn't, and you've

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<v Speaker 11>got to make choices, get rid of you know what,

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<v Speaker 11>make the bike pass skinnier then and put some funding

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<v Speaker 11>into helping because otherwise this is all you've got and

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<v Speaker 11>we're just going to argue over what to do with them.

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<v Speaker 11>You know the problem, that's the problem.

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<v Speaker 2>The problem is when you make those choices, you say

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<v Speaker 2>to yourself, Okay.

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<v Speaker 3>Do we keep pouring money down a hole in the ground.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, I don't you know the problem with folks

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<v Speaker 2>who have addictions, and I have plenty of friends who

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<v Speaker 2>have had addictions and plenty of friends who have those addictions.

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<v Speaker 2>You've got to want to do it, and there should

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<v Speaker 2>be programs available. But I don't think you can force

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<v Speaker 2>people to do it. I think people have to come

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<v Speaker 2>to that realization themselves. That's been the experience I've had.

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<v Speaker 11>Well, they do, and they do, but there there comes

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<v Speaker 11>a point where you can you can lock them up

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<v Speaker 11>and put them in you know, and lock them up

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<v Speaker 11>and you know, put them in a program by locking

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<v Speaker 11>them up, and maybe if that goes under vagrancy or

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<v Speaker 11>you can I got.

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<v Speaker 3>No, I get it.

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<v Speaker 2>You get the Civil Liberties Union coming in and say

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<v Speaker 2>that that law is arbitrary, vague, arbitrary, and capricious, and

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<v Speaker 2>they throw some lingo in there and the judge says, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>that law is unconstitutional.

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<v Speaker 11>And then well, I just know what I went through,

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<v Speaker 11>and there were detoxes and there was help and tell

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<v Speaker 11>the funding.

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<v Speaker 2>And I'm happy for you, Karen, I really am. And

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<v Speaker 2>I'm happy that you had the courage to call and

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<v Speaker 2>basically testify that that you that you have somehow come

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<v Speaker 2>out the under end of this business.

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<v Speaker 11>And I just feel bad for you, know, I know

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<v Speaker 11>there are people that don't want help and you can't

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<v Speaker 11>and then at some point you force them with the

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<v Speaker 11>law and you've got to just decide where to put

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<v Speaker 11>the money or you got this problem. And there you go.

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<v Speaker 11>I don't want to keep competing. Okay, thank you, good night,

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<v Speaker 11>Thanks thank okay, you too.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay. One line at six one seven, two four ten thirty.

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<v Speaker 3>One line at six one seven, nine three thirty.

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<v Speaker 2>Uh the only line open now with six one, seven,

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<v Speaker 2>nine ten thirty. The lines have been full all night.

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<v Speaker 2>Just keep trying. We'll be back on Nightside right after

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<v Speaker 2>the news break at the bottom of the hour.

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<v Speaker 1>It's night Side with Dan Ray on Way Boston's news radio.

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<v Speaker 2>We're going up to Gloucester to see Many Many. When'

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<v Speaker 2>they going to get this strikeover with?

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<v Speaker 3>Manny? What's going on up there?

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<v Speaker 10>I know it.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, it's uh they're going since Carolyn Kirk was in anyway.

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<v Speaker 4>But about the lady Margaret. I loved Margaret talking about

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<v Speaker 4>not only did she knit something, but it was like

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<v Speaker 4>crocheade Margaret. She was a wonderful woman listening to her.

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<v Speaker 3>But yeah, which which station will you listen to your?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 3>Many Many.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't think I had a Margaret on tonight. Are

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<v Speaker 2>you talking about my show or another show?

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<v Speaker 10>No?

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<v Speaker 4>The woman that just spoke before the commercial break?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, Karen Karen O, Karen, I'm sorry, that's okay, Karen

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<v Speaker 2>from Wisconsin.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, well you said Margaret, I'm saying, g who's me

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<v Speaker 3>talking about? Go ahead?

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<v Speaker 4>Man, I'm sorry, but yeah, I'm from the seventies and stuff.

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<v Speaker 4>And I did that spin drive thing that she's trying

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<v Speaker 4>to cover for that. Like I said, she didn't knit.

444
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<v Speaker 4>I mean she actually crocheted a net around them people.

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<v Speaker 4>But it was a freedom of choice. In nineteen seventy two,

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<v Speaker 4>I found out what a four year was for them

447
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<v Speaker 4>of information when I went to Bridgewater State College. My

448
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<v Speaker 4>friends were there. To be an engineer, I had to

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<v Speaker 4>have the greef, so I had to start there. And

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<v Speaker 4>I learned how to turn the front of a bicycle

451
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<v Speaker 4>around and take the tire off and hoist the tag

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<v Speaker 4>of beer up to the third floor.

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<v Speaker 2>These are things you learned in college many there. They're

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<v Speaker 2>essential for life. These are life lessons.

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<v Speaker 4>I did the boy of request after I did a

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<v Speaker 4>spriend spin dry in Beverly. I think it was called

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<v Speaker 4>I forget the name of it, but I have no.

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<v Speaker 3>Idea what to spend many.

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<v Speaker 4>I may have lived in the seventies when what she

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<v Speaker 4>was talking about. What they're all talking about. All your

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<v Speaker 4>calls are talking about getting help, whether it's treated as

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<v Speaker 4>an addiction or a disease.

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<v Speaker 2>But I've never heard of I mean, you know, I

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<v Speaker 2>know what a spin dry is a in terms of

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<v Speaker 2>drug what's a spin drive?

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<v Speaker 3>What's that mean?

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<v Speaker 4>You go into a detox and you come out, they

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<v Speaker 4>give your Because I did, they give you a librium.

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<v Speaker 4>It was so funny. I said, what are the rails

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<v Speaker 4>on the wall for? And the guy says, you'll find out,

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<v Speaker 4>and after you do your medications, you need those rails

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<v Speaker 4>on the walls.

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<v Speaker 2>So the room is spinning. I get it. Okay, now, okay.

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<v Speaker 4>They had those back in the seventies and they relied

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<v Speaker 4>on not the world. They didn't have the World Health

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<v Speaker 4>Organization back then. I fed the New England Journal of

477
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<v Speaker 4>Medicine the junior version and you can check me on this,

478
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<v Speaker 4>but it still says that it's treated as if it

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<v Speaker 4>was a disease. It's not a disease, but in the

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<v Speaker 4>eighties they created it as a disease to sound like it.

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<v Speaker 4>And that's why I because I did the A eight

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<v Speaker 4>the twelve step group meetings. There, whether you're at the

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<v Speaker 4>photo photography there shooting the picture down your pants, or

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<v Speaker 4>whether you're drinking or doing drugs, it's all free of

485
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<v Speaker 4>my choice. Hey, I'm up there were Charlie toolpal. It's

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<v Speaker 4>all afraid of my choice.

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<v Speaker 3>Charlie manny, I'm just losing a little bit. Who's Charlie?

488
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<v Speaker 4>Oh your dog?

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<v Speaker 3>Oh oh yeah, Charlie the dog. Yeah. Well, Charlie.

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<v Speaker 4>What I'm saying is, what I'm saying is uh, I.

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<v Speaker 2>Thought you were telling me you were up in heaven?

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<v Speaker 2>Would would I thought you were calling from heaven?

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<v Speaker 3>Many here for a.

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<v Speaker 4>Second, I'm a science engine there of the most Roman Catholic,

495
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<v Speaker 4>and I'm also laid up with broken neck, back and

496
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<v Speaker 4>cancer and all kinds of stuff like this is already

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<v Speaker 4>before if I go back to the original part, what

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<v Speaker 4>I'm saying is about like your primary care doctor. A

499
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<v Speaker 4>lot of these people do this on their free will.

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<v Speaker 4>Because I've seen people. I was at the nuclear missile site,

501
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<v Speaker 4>the Nike village place in Topsfield for six months because

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<v Speaker 4>when I come home from the Navy, I got in

503
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<v Speaker 4>trouble with a girl. There are.

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<v Speaker 3>Too much Were you on drugs when you were at

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<v Speaker 3>the nuclear I got.

506
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<v Speaker 4>To drink and when I came home, but I looked

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<v Speaker 4>out of that one to the Nike village up in

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<v Speaker 4>top Field. I've met some people that actually do this

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<v Speaker 4>for a living. They actually go homeless and they're like

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<v Speaker 4>doing it. And I've had friends like you say, you're

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<v Speaker 4>on drugs and stuff. I don't throw rocks at them.

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<v Speaker 4>They don't. They come knocking at my door eleven o'clock

513
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<v Speaker 4>that night. I give them a fight all a bill

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<v Speaker 4>or a pack of cigarettes. I've seen them go through

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<v Speaker 4>it all.

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<v Speaker 3>You've had an interesting life. Many you should write a

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<v Speaker 3>book here.

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<v Speaker 12>I think if you explain me back, all that money

519
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<v Speaker 12>should go back into the old fashioned detok centers that

520
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<v Speaker 12>they used to have, and then to.

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<v Speaker 4>Go around the corner and come back to our mayor

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<v Speaker 4>and our chief of police about how we have these

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<v Speaker 4>people on town trying to go to school and have

524
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<v Speaker 4>lunches and stuff, and the teachers on strike. I mean,

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<v Speaker 4>that's where everything starts his education.

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<v Speaker 3>I hate to do this to you, but many got

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<v Speaker 3>pack lines.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm going to let you go for now, but you

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<v Speaker 2>keep calling the show, okay, because you're you're one.

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<v Speaker 3>Of my more interesting callers. That's for sure. You've had

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<v Speaker 3>you have had a life experience like none other.

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<v Speaker 2>I now know. I now know what this what a

533
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<v Speaker 2>spin dry is. I learned something tonight, Thanks Manny.

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<v Speaker 4>And if you want to know something else, look up

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<v Speaker 4>many roaches special needs dances. So I've been around the

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<v Speaker 4>special needs people with autism.

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<v Speaker 10>And all that.

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<v Speaker 3>All right, man, you got you got the water front cover.

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<v Speaker 2>Man, you gotta run, I gotta run. Thank you much,

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<v Speaker 2>my friend. Have a great night. Good night, okay, Mike

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<v Speaker 2>and Lynn. Mike, you were the second Mike and Lynn tonight.

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<v Speaker 6>Go ahead, Mike and Lynn, see you brother. How you

543
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<v Speaker 6>doing doing great?

544
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<v Speaker 3>What's on your mind? Mike?

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<v Speaker 6>I don't stand this man talking about what he was

546
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<v Speaker 6>talking about.

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<v Speaker 8>A lot of.

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<v Speaker 6>It don't make no sense.

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<v Speaker 2>Uh, Which which person you're talking about? The gentleman just

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<v Speaker 2>before you?

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, man, Yeah, he.

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<v Speaker 2>Was talking about a lot of different stuff. But what

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<v Speaker 2>do you want to talk about?

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<v Speaker 6>What I want to talk about? Talk about the effect,

555
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<v Speaker 6>the tea case.

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<v Speaker 10>They're good people, the good woman.

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<v Speaker 6>Who's who?

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<v Speaker 3>Uh?

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<v Speaker 2>I'm just Mike, I think we got a bad connection.

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<v Speaker 2>Who are the good women you talking about?

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<v Speaker 6>I'm talking about K T K. And I'm talking about

562
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<v Speaker 6>the woman. They look up for you kids and Mikes

563
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<v Speaker 6>and they do the right job.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, I will take that into consideration. I appreciate you

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<v Speaker 2>taking the time to call. Thanks Mike. All right, let

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<v Speaker 2>me take a quick break here. All of a sudden,

567
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<v Speaker 2>I got a couple of lines open six one, seven, two, five, four,

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<v Speaker 2>ten thirty one at six one, seven nine. I didn't

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<v Speaker 2>quite get exactly what Mike was saying, but he was

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<v Speaker 2>six inct. We'll be back on Nightside after this.

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<v Speaker 1>Now back to Dan Ray live from the Window World

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<v Speaker 1>nights Side Studios on WBZ News Radio.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, you wanna get the train back on track. Here,

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<v Speaker 2>ladies and John, let's go to Christine and Denim. Christine,

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<v Speaker 2>you were next on nights side.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm glad to hear from you. Christine, go right ahead.

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<v Speaker 13>You had some couple of worners there before.

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<v Speaker 7>Huh, Well, there.

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<v Speaker 3>Are different perspectives. We always enjoyed different perspectives. Let's put

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<v Speaker 3>it like that. Christine.

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<v Speaker 13>Yeah, I was just you know, thinking like, what about

582
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<v Speaker 13>the hospitals that have closed. Can't they rehire the staff

583
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<v Speaker 13>and have the homeless going to the hospitals that are

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<v Speaker 13>now closed or the churches something.

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<v Speaker 2>The problem is that there's a lot of people who

586
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<v Speaker 2>are homeless who enjoy living outdoors. There there are people

587
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<v Speaker 2>there are they will do every year they'll do these.

588
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<v Speaker 3>These surveys in Boston. They do this what they call

589
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<v Speaker 3>the census. They try to find that people are homeless.

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<v Speaker 3>And a lot of these.

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<v Speaker 2>People say that they believe that, you know, that when

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<v Speaker 2>they're in a in a shelter, that they don't know

593
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<v Speaker 2>who's next to them, and they're they fear a lot

594
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<v Speaker 2>of people just want to be left alone. And those

595
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<v Speaker 2>are the people who stay outside. And we've talked, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>to some of the street workers who will tell you

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<v Speaker 2>that that there are people who just would prefer to

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<v Speaker 2>be left alone, and they that they fear, they feared

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<v Speaker 2>the other homeless people.

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<v Speaker 3>So it's tough. I mean, it's it's tough. And then

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<v Speaker 3>you have the behavior that was described to us earlier

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<v Speaker 3>tonight out of Brockton. How can a community tolerate that?

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<v Speaker 3>I don't think.

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<v Speaker 13>That's I don't know. And I've press from the nursing home,

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<v Speaker 13>people in the nursing home, the workers that stay there.

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<v Speaker 13>In the next couple of years, they've heard they're going

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<v Speaker 13>to stop putting the homeless and the nursing homes among

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<v Speaker 13>all the other elderly people, which I think is scary.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I hope they they They did something like that

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<v Speaker 2>during HOVID in COVID, remember, they took patients who were

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<v Speaker 2>COVID positive and intermissed them in nursing homes, particularly in

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<v Speaker 2>New York in Pennsylvania.

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<v Speaker 3>And it cost a lot of it costs a lot

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<v Speaker 3>of lives.

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<v Speaker 13>Yeah, Christine, Yeah, yeah, I hope to god they won't

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<v Speaker 13>do this. Damp I'm with you.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm totally with you.

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<v Speaker 13>They've got to do something, though, I don't know. All

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<v Speaker 13>these hospitals now that are now closed. I don't know.

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<v Speaker 13>Could they do something I don't know.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, it's cost a lot of money to reopen the hospital.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, obviously, the Seward Hospital story was a horrific

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<v Speaker 2>hospital story.

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<v Speaker 3>They're trying to get those hospitals back up online.

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<v Speaker 2>Look Norwood Hospital, which is far from you, it closed

626
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<v Speaker 2>because of the floods of a couple of years ago,

627
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<v Speaker 2>three years ago, never reopened.

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah, no, a lot of you know, Look, we got.

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<v Speaker 3>To get our act together.

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<v Speaker 2>We're we're in deep in debt, and we and we

631
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<v Speaker 2>have more problems than we have money to solve those problems.

632
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<v Speaker 3>So somehow we got to figure out our priorities.

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<v Speaker 13>The whole thing is closed.

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<v Speaker 2>The borders, well that's a factor, and I think you're

635
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<v Speaker 2>going to see the borders closed, at least from what

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<v Speaker 2>it looks like with President Trump's cabinet appoint Ye. They

637
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<v Speaker 2>were talking about that down in down in Brockton, that

638
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<v Speaker 2>a lot of the shelters are full because migrants have

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<v Speaker 2>come in. They're they're there, and the the the traditional

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<v Speaker 2>American homeless are the ones who are left out in

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<v Speaker 2>the cold. Thank you, Christine, talk soon, Okay, appreciate it you.

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<v Speaker 3>Too. Let me go to Robin Boston, Rob you next

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<v Speaker 3>time nights.

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<v Speaker 14>I go right ahead, Rob, Hey, Dan, I uh, you know,

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<v Speaker 14>I think about these things, and uh, it comes to mind.

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<v Speaker 14>We have a situation that it takes a village. Now

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<v Speaker 14>I believe that we should make this village and and

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<v Speaker 14>and and make it a community where people like this

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<v Speaker 14>lady that come out of the supermarket in Mall Than

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<v Speaker 14>the other day and ask me for some money for

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<v Speaker 14>some foo for her and her dog. And I wanted

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<v Speaker 14>to give it to her, but uh, I knew that

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<v Speaker 14>she had like one tooth and what the money was

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<v Speaker 14>not going to go into food. I offered her some food,

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<v Speaker 14>some tuna, fish and pineapple, and then she told me

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<v Speaker 14>she couldn't eat and her dog was sick. And I

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<v Speaker 14>wanted to give it her five bucks. But this girl

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<v Speaker 14>was about seventy pounds. And this is everywhere we always was.

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<v Speaker 3>How was that girl?

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<v Speaker 14>He was going to have maybe thirty poof unbelievable and

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<v Speaker 14>she got to weighed about seventy five pounds Dan, and.

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<v Speaker 3>She still a life expectancy.

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<v Speaker 2>She's probably got a life expectancy of about five years

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<v Speaker 2>when you think about.

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<v Speaker 14>It, well, and and finding somebody like that two hundred

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<v Speaker 14>dollars or two hundred and fifty dollars, it's not going

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<v Speaker 14>to get paid. It's not going to do any good

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<v Speaker 14>except put more stress on them. We need to take

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<v Speaker 14>this billion dollars a month that was spending on newcomers,

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<v Speaker 14>and we need to build this village, and we need

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<v Speaker 14>to take care of our own people that are walking

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<v Speaker 14>around the streets like at Melania Calf Picture someplace like.

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<v Speaker 14>You just get some bull nooses, clear out the trees,

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<v Speaker 14>You build this facility, You teach them carpentry or sewing

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<v Speaker 14>or a trade. You know, you have like a closed

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<v Speaker 14>community just for our homeless and and drug effected. We're

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<v Speaker 14>burying three hundred people across the country a day from

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<v Speaker 14>from from fentanyl alone. We don't take care of our own,

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<v Speaker 14>but we come up with a billion dollars a month

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<v Speaker 14>in Massachusetts. It's not what I want my tax money

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<v Speaker 14>to go to. I want my tax money to go

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<v Speaker 14>to the homeless and and and the and the ill

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<v Speaker 14>people from from mental illness or whatever you want to

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<v Speaker 14>call it, substance abuse. It's it's it's it's all could

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<v Speaker 14>be fixed. There's money for everything, except what we should

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<v Speaker 14>be spending it on.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I think I think your points. I wish it

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<v Speaker 2>called early because we could have a much longer discussion

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<v Speaker 2>about that. But I agree on what you're saying is

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<v Speaker 2>we have to figure out what our priorities are. We

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<v Speaker 2>don't have enough money for everything, and we don't have

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<v Speaker 2>enough money for a billion dollars a year for people

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<v Speaker 2>who have come here illegally. And it's not a billion. No, wait,

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<v Speaker 2>it's not a billion a month. No, it's not. It's

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<v Speaker 2>a billion a year in Massachusetts. So I just you know,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna be honest with you, simple, as simple as that.

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<v Speaker 3>Hey, Rob, I appreciate you call very much, Thank you, sir.

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<v Speaker 14>All right, Jan Sorry I got the number wrong, but

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<v Speaker 14>you know, no, No, the.

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<v Speaker 2>Point you're the point you're making, the substitutive point you're making,

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<v Speaker 2>is true, and that is we have to decide where

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<v Speaker 2>will our priorities take us.

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<v Speaker 3>It's as simple as that.

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<v Speaker 14>I'm and I should decide where I want my tax

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<v Speaker 14>money to go.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, the way you do the way you do that, Bob,

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<v Speaker 2>The way you do that is to vote and get

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<v Speaker 2>people in office whose priorities are similar to yours. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>that's what just happened to this election. Okay, so I voted,

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<v Speaker 2>let's see what happens. Okay, thank you man, I appreciate it.

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<v Speaker 2>I got one more call. I gotta get to job. Hey,

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<v Speaker 2>talk to you soon. Great night.

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<v Speaker 8>All right.

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<v Speaker 2>Let me wrap it up here with Justin from Quincy. Justin,

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<v Speaker 2>You're lucky you just called in. You didn't didn't even

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<v Speaker 2>have to wait. Justin, go right ahead, you're next on

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<v Speaker 2>nice side.

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<v Speaker 10>Thank you, Thank you for taking my call.

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<v Speaker 7>Honestly, I don't know.

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<v Speaker 10>I don't know how I feel about it. I think,

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<v Speaker 10>like you said earlier, a lot of these homeless people,

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<v Speaker 10>if you think about it, they were all given opportunity,

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<v Speaker 10>had one chance or another. A lot of them weren't

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<v Speaker 10>given housing, they weren't given all the medical stuff, everything

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<v Speaker 10>that they needed. But if you think about it, a

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<v Speaker 10>lot of them squandered it. That's why the homeless in

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<v Speaker 10>the first place. If you're thinking about uestions. Yeah, well,

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<v Speaker 10>I understand that there's some people that, yeah, there's there's

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<v Speaker 10>unfortune and bad luck. But I live in the city

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<v Speaker 10>and I dealt with a lot of those people, and

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<v Speaker 10>it seems to me, like, like you said, you could

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<v Speaker 10>give them the house and you can give them all

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<v Speaker 10>the help that you want, but a lot of them

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<v Speaker 10>are there by choice.

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<v Speaker 2>There are people, there are people who would prefer to

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<v Speaker 2>live that lifestyle, and in a free country that's permitted.

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<v Speaker 2>There's other countries around the world where they would be

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<v Speaker 2>thrown in jail and treated pretty badly. That's not the

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<v Speaker 2>United States of America.

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<v Speaker 3>And at the same time, I don't think their lifestyle

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<v Speaker 3>their lifestyle.

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<v Speaker 2>No, but I'm saying when they're outrageous, lifestyle starts to

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<v Speaker 2>impact your family and your lifestyle and my family and

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<v Speaker 2>my lifestyle. I think society needs to say, wait a second,

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<v Speaker 2>this is a step too far.

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<v Speaker 10>You know, I agree.

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<v Speaker 3>All right, Hey, justin thanks very much.

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<v Speaker 2>You ended on a very rational note tonight, and I

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<v Speaker 2>mean you ended my show on a rational note, and

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<v Speaker 2>I thank you for that.

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<v Speaker 10>Thank you, sir, Thank you. I appreciate for having my call.

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<v Speaker 3>I appreciate you call on. Thanks again. All right, Well,

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<v Speaker 3>it was a wild night.

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<v Speaker 2>We were going to talk about the president's cabinets selections.

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<v Speaker 2>We'll get to that tomorrow.

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<v Speaker 3>Night.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, this was three great hours, in my opinion of radio,

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<v Speaker 2>A wide variety of phone calls and that's what Nightside

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<v Speaker 2>is all about. I want to thank everyone. I think

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<v Speaker 2>it was the best show well the week. Rob Brooks,

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<v Speaker 2>thank you very much, Mariita, thank you very much. All

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<v Speaker 2>End as always, all dogs, all cats, all pets go

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<v Speaker 2>to heaven. That's what my pal Charlie Ray is, who

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<v Speaker 2>passed fourteen years ago in February. That's what all your

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<v Speaker 2>pets are who had passed. They loved you and you

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<v Speaker 2>love them. I do believe you'll see them again. I'll

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<v Speaker 2>see again on Facebook and about two minutes just go

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<v Speaker 2>to Facebook night Side with Dan Raeg and we'll say

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<v Speaker 2>hello and I'll see Themorrow night at eight o'clock.

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<v Speaker 3>Have a great Thursday, everybody, Dan Ray for Nightside. Thanks

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<v Speaker 3>Rob
