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<v Speaker 1>Podcast about how someone just tried to call me on

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<v Speaker 1>my mobile an actual offense right when we're trying to

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<v Speaker 1>record this. Don't call me. I'm a millennial, Like what

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<v Speaker 1>could this possibly be about? You know? No, I don't

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<v Speaker 1>appreciate that. No, thank you.

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<v Speaker 2>How are you? I am? Well? There we go. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>doing pretty good, you know, just just just living it

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<v Speaker 2>up here.

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<v Speaker 1>Living the dream, living in the fucking dream. That's sorry.

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<v Speaker 1>Every day every day I'm just kicking back and thinking

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<v Speaker 1>about how good life is.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, I yeah, you know, we're just just trying to

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<v Speaker 2>do trying to stay sane here. As you know, I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know what this is that we have here in America.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't really know what's going on, but you know

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<v Speaker 2>it uh uh us because like you sorry, what I just.

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<v Speaker 1>Feel like I am really very I'm really kind of

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<v Speaker 1>Hansole in Zoolander. It's like, do I know what I'm doing?

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<v Speaker 2>No?

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<v Speaker 1>Do you know why I'm here? No? But I'm hearing

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<v Speaker 1>not gonna give it my best shot. That's just kind

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<v Speaker 1>of like what I have to keep repeating constantly at

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<v Speaker 1>the moment. But yeah, you know, you know, for for

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<v Speaker 1>life anyway, Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Like is you know, is the government. U you know,

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<v Speaker 2>are we gonna collapse tomorrow or are we gonna have you know,

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<v Speaker 2>are we gonna have fucking truth and reconciliation?

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<v Speaker 1>I gotta I gotta tell you. One of the big

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<v Speaker 1>casualties of this entire affair has been my belief in

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<v Speaker 1>the deep state. You know, I really would have thought that,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, that Dick Cheney could have got it done.

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<v Speaker 2>But I don't even know. I don't know what the

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<v Speaker 2>deep state would do to uh two deal with this

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<v Speaker 2>problem because we have like the Epstein thing, which is

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<v Speaker 2>what a lot of this appears to be circling around

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<v Speaker 2>here in America because as all of our leaders on

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<v Speaker 2>both sides and I do want to be cleared as

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<v Speaker 2>on both sides.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, are.

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<v Speaker 2>Perverted pedophilic freaks or people who cover up for them

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<v Speaker 2>and are otherwise implicated by association of some kind. And

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<v Speaker 2>so there's really not a thing you can do. Like

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<v Speaker 2>this is kind of out in the open now, and

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<v Speaker 2>people are like, wait a minute, because like people who

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<v Speaker 2>were like, you know, people who didn't believe Trump in

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<v Speaker 2>the first place, are like, Okay, this is a thing

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<v Speaker 2>you can latch on, you know, this is the thing

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<v Speaker 2>you can latch onto because like now he's like talking

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<v Speaker 2>about it and freaking out about it in public and

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<v Speaker 2>being like why are people still talking about this? Like

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<v Speaker 2>you can do that, like you can now latch onto

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<v Speaker 2>it because he's stressaand he's done the strissand effect into

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<v Speaker 2>the stratosphere with this and uh. But but even people

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<v Speaker 2>who supported him, like people who were like, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>who are going to hold this stuff, are now like

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<v Speaker 2>I don't like they like they they a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>them do seem to be rattled by this, Like not

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<v Speaker 2>I don't think they're going to like bring the government

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<v Speaker 2>down tomorrow or anything, but like, I mean, yeah, this

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<v Speaker 2>is the first like this. I think this is like

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<v Speaker 2>the first like crisis of legitimate like internal legitimacy they've

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<v Speaker 2>had because like they believed all this Trump stuff, and

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, yeah, a lot of them are still gonna

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<v Speaker 2>be like, oh, yeah, he's he's the guy whatever. He's

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<v Speaker 2>uh rounding up Mexicans and that makes me happy because

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<v Speaker 2>I'm a sedition. Yeah, but I mean some of them aren't,

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<v Speaker 2>because like that is a red life to people, like

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<v Speaker 2>and there's a difference between like everybody being like, oh yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>Trump's on the flight logs, you could. I mean, like,

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<v Speaker 2>even though they did it, you you could be you

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<v Speaker 2>could convince yourself that like that was a that was

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<v Speaker 2>a fake. Yeah, but this like but if he's really

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<v Speaker 2>going after it, then he's not going to be doing this.

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<v Speaker 2>He's not going to be telling the ag to to

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<v Speaker 2>you know, to shut it down, to to tell everybody

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<v Speaker 2>stop talking about it. Like two months after he invited

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<v Speaker 2>all of these uh conservative influencers to the White House

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<v Speaker 2>and like made this big deal about releasing the Epstein

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<v Speaker 2>files to him, and all it was was just a

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<v Speaker 2>printed out list of the flight logs with even more

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<v Speaker 2>names redacted than what we have. And it's like, and

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<v Speaker 2>you do that, and you release this video of his

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<v Speaker 2>supposed suicide that like even people who don't know anything

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<v Speaker 2>about editing video or aren't close video watchers can tell

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<v Speaker 2>something's going on because two different rooms are used, there's

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<v Speaker 2>like a very hard cut in between them. And of

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<v Speaker 2>course it was confirmed like within minutes of that being

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<v Speaker 2>released that it was heavily edited in I think it

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<v Speaker 2>was Adobe Premiere something like that of one of the

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<v Speaker 2>Adobe products. Anyway, it's so cheap. It's just so cheap,

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<v Speaker 2>like it is, and like when you do this. The

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<v Speaker 2>people who were on your side but really did have

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<v Speaker 2>this as a mental red line are going to be

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<v Speaker 2>like wait, what, like because this isn't the action of

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<v Speaker 2>someone or a group of people who want to get

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<v Speaker 2>to the bottom of this. This is the action of

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<v Speaker 2>like a guy who's been who's tired of talking about this.

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<v Speaker 2>He's been cornered he did something wrong, and like that's that,

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<v Speaker 2>And a lot of people are I mean, I don't

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<v Speaker 2>you know, it seems like a decent number of people

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<v Speaker 2>like what the fuck is this? Like you know what

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<v Speaker 2>is going on with this stuff? Because it's it's you

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<v Speaker 2>might be inclined to believe it's just the internet, but

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<v Speaker 2>it's not. It's made it completely off the internet. My wife,

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<v Speaker 2>who is normy to the core, they they love you.

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<v Speaker 2>You couldn't both do it if we were both that

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<v Speaker 2>terminally online.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you gotta have one person offline. It's absolutely imperative.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Or if you're both online, you gotta Like that's

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<v Speaker 2>a real fine line to walk. I'm not saying you can't,

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<v Speaker 2>but it's it's a fine anyway. She was like, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>try this Epstein thing, Like Trump's getting it from all sides.

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<v Speaker 2>Like I saw something on Facebook. And I'm like if

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<v Speaker 2>they're if like, oh, if your racist aunt on Facebook

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<v Speaker 2>is like Trump's a pedophile, Like I don't, I don't

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<v Speaker 2>know that, like that's not the norm, and like, I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know, because this thing is not going away,

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<v Speaker 2>like they they very clearly want this to go away,

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<v Speaker 2>to be a thing that they don't have to talk

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<v Speaker 2>about anymore. And yeah, it's not like they. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>Trump is basically assured that it's not that it's something

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<v Speaker 2>that people won't stop talking about. He like was doing

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<v Speaker 2>truth social post at three am over the weekend.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like, yeah, I think it's a really interesting thing

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<v Speaker 1>because it shows the limits of what he can do.

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<v Speaker 1>And I mean, I don't know what his game plan was,

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<v Speaker 1>to be honest, because like, well, I guess he thought

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<v Speaker 1>that he was going to have like some way of

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<v Speaker 1>redacting it like himself. And you know, so I don't

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<v Speaker 1>really quite understand, like but maybe like he's just so

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<v Speaker 1>stupid that he just hadn't really thought it through, which

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<v Speaker 1>is entirely within the realm of possibility, I admit, I admit, you.

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<v Speaker 2>Know, so I it seems to me that like the

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<v Speaker 2>way that he was approaching it at first was someone

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<v Speaker 2>who like had like you know, like you still have

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<v Speaker 2>to do the dog and pony show for people, like

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<v Speaker 2>we all know that he was clearly never going to

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<v Speaker 2>release this and do like a do like a full

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<v Speaker 2>like brief of it or anything like that, because he's

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<v Speaker 2>in it, Like he would never like it would implicate him.

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<v Speaker 2>Too many people would immediately just be like, yeah, I

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<v Speaker 2>saw Trump. There, here's a picture we took, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>all this sort of stuff, you know or whatever. And

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<v Speaker 2>but this recent push where they're just like, I'm not

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<v Speaker 2>like the way that they that they turned and they

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<v Speaker 2>were like, we're not talking about anymore. We're dropping the investigation,

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<v Speaker 2>we're not doing anything. Pam Bond, he's not talking. Our

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<v Speaker 2>attorney general is not dealing with it. We don't care.

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<v Speaker 2>Fuck it. I don't want to hear any more about

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<v Speaker 2>this stuff. Is the thing you would do if you

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<v Speaker 2>won like an eighty five percent share in the last election,

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<v Speaker 2>and like we're writing such a political and cultural mandate

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<v Speaker 2>that no one could oppose you, and even the people

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<v Speaker 2>on your side who would be who would abhor this

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<v Speaker 2>can't speak up because there there's too much. But they

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<v Speaker 2>don't have that, like they want to low turnout election

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<v Speaker 2>by like one and a half percent. Whatever. Their idea

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<v Speaker 2>of woke going away clearly has not happened because people

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<v Speaker 2>are not, you know, doing that. He's he's turned the

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<v Speaker 2>American electorate from like generally in favor of like immigration,

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<v Speaker 2>immigration enforcement overall, to to like it's it's now a

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<v Speaker 2>sixty forty issue in favor of immigrants now, Like they've

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<v Speaker 2>done that in.

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<v Speaker 1>That's one good thing, hey.

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<v Speaker 2>Like And I mean, obviously the American electorate is incredibly

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<v Speaker 2>fickle and things go like that, but this is more

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<v Speaker 2>in line with like more people, more younger people, i e.

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<v Speaker 2>People under about like fifty or so right now who

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<v Speaker 2>are coming into it and and you know, they're like, no,

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<v Speaker 2>like this is insane, Like we don't like why do

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<v Speaker 2>we have this? What are we doing? Like why are

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<v Speaker 2>you why are you rounding up people? Like you know,

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<v Speaker 2>like you're you're doing these videos in like posting like

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<v Speaker 2>placards of deported individuals on the White House lawn like

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<v Speaker 2>like you like you already like you already run the

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<v Speaker 2>fucking like uh, like a fascist regime that's been in

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<v Speaker 2>power for twenty years and has an ironclad grip on

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<v Speaker 2>everything like you that those these things don't mix. They don't.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't. I don't know if it's stupidity or his

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<v Speaker 2>like issue, his mental deterioration that's happening with age, which

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<v Speaker 2>he is clearly going through.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh god, God, And I don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know what. I don't know why they decided

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<v Speaker 2>to attack it this way. But it is like if

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<v Speaker 2>you're like me and you do not like people are like, oh,

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<v Speaker 2>this is so embarrassing for America. What America is evil

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<v Speaker 2>to its core as a concept as an institution. This

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<v Speaker 2>place is thoroughly denuded of anything good as an institutional thing.

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<v Speaker 2>How could you be embarrassed of this place? Like? This

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<v Speaker 2>is who we are, This is who we have always been,

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<v Speaker 2>Like a bunch of land grabbing pediasts and and and

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<v Speaker 2>perverts in power over like an electorate that like grudgingly

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<v Speaker 2>tolerates them sometimes and then is kind of, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>fidgety at other times and is like you do not.

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<v Speaker 2>This country is three hundred and fifty million people in it.

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<v Speaker 2>I know people get tired of hearing me talk about it,

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<v Speaker 2>but it's really fucking big, really fucking vast in terms

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<v Speaker 2>of land and people, and really fucking integrated. It really is,

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<v Speaker 2>and people don't believe that. But where I'm from the

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<v Speaker 2>state of Georgia, I think it's still true that they're

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<v Speaker 2>uh like, uh, it's like thirty three percent African American Texas.

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<v Speaker 2>I think Texas and Mississippi are also like that as well,

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<v Speaker 2>and like these are southern states, and yes, that is

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<v Speaker 2>a holdover from slavery, but like it's still impact to

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<v Speaker 2>a point. I know people in my family are very racist,

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<v Speaker 2>and especially on my dad's side, and I don't and

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<v Speaker 2>it is embarrassing. It's awful. I hate that that that

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<v Speaker 2>I have family members like that or had family members

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<v Speaker 2>like that. But none of that stuff ever worked on me.

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<v Speaker 2>Like I like, people will be like, yeah, black people

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<v Speaker 2>you when you grow up around that, and that's what

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<v Speaker 2>these freaks want to do with their homeschooling and well, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, absolutely, because it's like it requires ignorance of other

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah awful. Oh this is terrible. Yeah, oh I would

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<v Speaker 2>never you know, Oh the cities are all are all evil,

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<v Speaker 2>Like every big city I go to is fine. I

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<v Speaker 2>I really like Atlanta. I understand why some people might not.

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<v Speaker 2>But you know, when I.

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<v Speaker 1>You're going to be unsurprised to learn that. And it's

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<v Speaker 1>which why do we have those? But anyway, moving on.

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<v Speaker 2>The military base on the island of England in case

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<v Speaker 1>Like I don't know why that all that's happening, but okay,

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<v Speaker 1>and like these kids were like, oh, yeah, well what

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<v Speaker 1>do I do it? I was like, look, so here's

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<v Speaker 1>the but you know, they were asking me kind of

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<v Speaker 1>You're gonna be an East Anglia. It's really pretty over there.

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<v Speaker 1>like just just like try to do uh, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>do as the Romans, et cetera. And the guy was like,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I've got a question for you to like

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<v Speaker 1>is there anywhere that isn't safe to go? And I

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<v Speaker 1>like essentially like attempting to like ask me about no

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<v Speaker 1>go zones, and I was like, none of that's real, Like.

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<v Speaker 2>And also like where like where It's like.

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's a thing. It's like a Facebook meme

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<v Speaker 1>that your racist uncle will have that there are parts

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<v Speaker 1>white people and that they're doing Sharia law there and

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<v Speaker 1>that like you can't go there. And I was like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>none of that is Uh, you'll be surprised to learn that,

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<v Speaker 1>like this is the safest place you were going to

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<v Speaker 1>ever go, Like nothing ever happens here.

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<v Speaker 2>I I uh, I can't, like I can't even begin

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<v Speaker 2>to conceptualize in my head, like how you would do that,

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<v Speaker 2>Like how you would how you would set up a

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<v Speaker 2>a racially enforced no go zone against white people in

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<v Speaker 2>an extremely white country.

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<v Speaker 1>In like the heart of Empire, like I can.

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<v Speaker 2>In the in the Anglosphere, in the in in England, Australia, America, Canada.

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<v Speaker 2>M hm. Impossible, It's really in literally impossible for you

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<v Speaker 2>to set that up like where we do not allow

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<v Speaker 2>any white people, are you come on?

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<v Speaker 1>Like exactly. And so it's like you just have to

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<v Speaker 1>understand that these people when they're when they do stuff

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<v Speaker 1>like homeschooling and things, they're they're attempting to establish no

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<v Speaker 1>go zones. Like that's what they want to do, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>they want to make it like a butt for other people, right,

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<v Speaker 1>Like it's uh, it's a no go zone, but for

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<v Speaker 1>people of color, right or you know, people with different ideas.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's yeah, it's it's it's an imagined thing. Like

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<v Speaker 2>I saw somebody talking about like how like every city

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<v Speaker 2>in America was like like a like a burned out

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<v Speaker 2>hellscape and it's like what I don't I don't, like

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know where you could actually live, like what

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<v Speaker 2>like I don't maybe like part of Nebraska or the

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<v Speaker 2>Dakota's or something. But like in most states, if the

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<v Speaker 2>capital city is a burned out hellscape, like you would

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<v Speaker 2>see that, you would have like incredible, you would have

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<v Speaker 2>population fleeing to the countryside. They would they would they

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<v Speaker 2>would just be like, you know, moving in droves in

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<v Speaker 2>like like if their old homesteaders or something. But like

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<v Speaker 2>they're not because you know, and it's just like I

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<v Speaker 2>understand that it's like a complete like detachment from society

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<v Speaker 2>or whatever, but it's like.

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<v Speaker 1>What a like I you have to make it like

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<v Speaker 1>they have to tell like stories to scare themselves in

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<v Speaker 1>order to kind of like explain their worldview. And it's

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<v Speaker 1>it's baffling. It is genuinely baffling.

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<v Speaker 2>And they're they're not even like they're not even convicted

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<v Speaker 2>about this stuff, like not like not in like a

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<v Speaker 2>not in like an ideological sense, because they're just like bouncing.

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<v Speaker 2>It's like bouncing around to whatever, like whatever will piss

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<v Speaker 2>off liberals, whatever will like will make people on Twitter

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<v Speaker 2>or blue Sky or truth Social or wherever people that

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<v Speaker 2>I don't like mad, whatever we'll do that is good.

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<v Speaker 2>And so they just like ping around to like all

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<v Speaker 2>these different things. And like there was a there's this woman.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't remember her name, and if I did, I

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<v Speaker 2>probably wouldn't say it anyway, because she's her boy her husband. No,

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<v Speaker 2>she's cool. Her boyfriend. Her husband was killed by by

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<v Speaker 2>in like a violent in like some kind.

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<v Speaker 1>Of via social cu sorry.

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<v Speaker 2>No you no, you're good. He was killed in uh

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<v Speaker 2>by like a by a minority and like this woman, like,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, after it happened, you know, she was like,

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<v Speaker 2>this is terrible. I'm you know, so sorry, but you know,

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<v Speaker 2>we don't need to. Uh, this doesn't mean that every

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<v Speaker 2>Mexican or every black person or whatever it was, is evil.

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<v Speaker 2>And right wingers fucking hate this woman because she does

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<v Speaker 2>not like just continually wallow in this victimization complex and

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<v Speaker 2>blame every single minority for like the one off instance

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<v Speaker 2>that caused to her a personal tragedy, Like they are

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<v Speaker 2>so mad when you like, one of the things that

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<v Speaker 2>you can do to just freak these people out the

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<v Speaker 2>most is have a tragic story, like especially one that

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<v Speaker 2>was called that was caused either incidentally or on purpose

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<v Speaker 2>by a minority, because they won't because that is like

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<v Speaker 2>their joker super villain origin story for all of them. Uh.

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<v Speaker 2>When I was seventeen, a homeless guy stole my bike,

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<v Speaker 2>and uh that means all black people are evil. And

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<v Speaker 2>it's like, yeah, man, that guy stole your bike because

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<v Speaker 2>he doesn't have a home. He needs to go, you know.

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<v Speaker 1>And it's like, yeah, that's you didn't lose your family,

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<v Speaker 1>you lost a bike.

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<v Speaker 2>That's it. That's the thing.

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<v Speaker 1>But it's interesting because like you know, every single person

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<v Speaker 1>of color is always a representative of like their entire grouping,

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<v Speaker 1>whereas all white people are individuals, you know, always and forever.

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<v Speaker 1>And that's just how this shit works, you know.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's I don't even know. I like, I don't

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<v Speaker 2>even know what to do with it. I don't like

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<v Speaker 2>because on the one hand, it's like, I mean, things

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<v Speaker 2>are bad, like there is a lot of bad shit

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<v Speaker 2>going on. But on the other hand, like I don't

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<v Speaker 2>this ship. I don't know, I don't know, like what

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<v Speaker 2>you can survive. I don't know what's going on. I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know how long the economy's gonna last. Like they're

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<v Speaker 2>talking about like tariffs again, it's just like like okay, cool, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>we're like we're definitely gonna do you know, like we're

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<v Speaker 2>definitely doing tariffs. That's a real thing. It's not like, uh,

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<v Speaker 2>something that we're gonna pull back from immediately or you

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<v Speaker 2>know anything. Like it's like you're trying. You're trying stuff

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<v Speaker 2>that you would try if you were like in the

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<v Speaker 2>middle of like a one hundred year political dynasty where

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<v Speaker 2>you would like suppressed every opposition for us and and

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<v Speaker 2>and everything, and and the populace was like well in

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<v Speaker 2>favor or like ground into dust, and that's not what

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<v Speaker 2>they have at all. Like, uh, I mean you do

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<v Speaker 2>have a lot. You do have most of the politicians

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<v Speaker 2>in power agreeing with this stuff, and that's bad. But

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<v Speaker 2>like that is not that's institutional rot. That is not indicative,

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<v Speaker 2>like you don't have that, Like I don't like it's

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<v Speaker 2>like it's like trying to enforce fascism when the people

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<v Speaker 2>haven't been through World War One, like and it didn't

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<v Speaker 2>happen on their doorstep. People are not not enough. People

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<v Speaker 2>are traumatized where they're by their bike being stolen by

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<v Speaker 2>some homeless man that that they are going to be

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<v Speaker 2>like yeah, uh sure, let's fucking throw people, throw random

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<v Speaker 2>people into vans, the woman that takes care that, the

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<v Speaker 2>woman that babysits my kids, uh before where I get

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<v Speaker 2>home from work, you know, a random guy anyone. Like

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<v Speaker 2>people don't like that. Americans think that they are good people,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, and seeing that is like wait what this is?

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<v Speaker 2>You know wait huh, Like we don't have Gestapo here,

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<v Speaker 2>We're not the you know, we're not the Nazis. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>one thing I've said it before, but like the one

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<v Speaker 2>place where they really really really failed with communists with

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<v Speaker 2>anti communist propaganda. Was they could never make Stalin the

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<v Speaker 2>bad guy. Like Hitler was, like, you do have double

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<v Speaker 2>genocide theory. You do have horrible definitely Austiniers who believe that.

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<v Speaker 1>But and you have to like promulgate that really strongly,

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<v Speaker 1>Like you see the believers in that like really go

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<v Speaker 1>in swinging very hard for it because they have to,

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<v Speaker 2>So yeah, and like that's not something that people will abide.

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<v Speaker 2>They don't like it, they don't want it, and there

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<v Speaker 2>we are. It's just I don't know, it's so weird.

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<v Speaker 2>Living here right now is so fucking weird. And like

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<v Speaker 2>don't know anybody. It's so weird. Like I live in Florida,

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<v Speaker 2>and like, I mean a majority of people down here

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<v Speaker 2>are awful, but like I mean not awful, but like

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<v Speaker 2>a majority of the voters down here awful. But like

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<v Speaker 2>where I live, it's like normal, Like you know, I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>blue county, but like like it's just a normal like

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<v Speaker 2>you know, it's like you have this and I'm not

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<v Speaker 2>saying everything's falling right now, but this but like I

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<v Speaker 2>just wonder, like do people like they're in the fall

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<v Speaker 2>of the Roman Empire were like, man, this something's going on,

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<v Speaker 2>something's wrong, but like things are kind of normal too,

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<v Speaker 2>like you know, like there had to be I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>obviously not everyone, because there were uh, you know, goths

417
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<v Speaker 2>and ostro goths and Visigoths and vandals and everyone else

418
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<v Speaker 2>running rough shot around the town and the hunts and

419
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<v Speaker 2>all that, but like that wasn't everywhere, you know, like

420
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<v Speaker 2>they were like you know, like they weren't. You know.

421
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<v Speaker 2>It's like I don't know. I don't fucking know. I

422
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<v Speaker 2>don't know. I don't want to sound conceited like oh,

423
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<v Speaker 2>we're at the center of history or anything, We're so important,

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<v Speaker 2>but like, I don't what else would you call this

425
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<v Speaker 2>other than decline and the decline? What would what would

426
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<v Speaker 2>you call this other than the decline and fall of

427
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<v Speaker 2>the American Empire? Seriously?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, I mean I think that you have to

429
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<v Speaker 1>and I don't really think that there's a whole lot

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<v Speaker 1>else you can do with it fundamentally at this juncture,

431
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<v Speaker 1>Like at least I mean in Shalah.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, we've been going for thirty minutes on this. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>do you want to just go for a few more

434
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<v Speaker 2>minutes on like current events? Yeah, yeah, we could just do. Uh, Folks,

435
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<v Speaker 2>Next week tune in when we will have a very

436
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<v Speaker 2>frank and historical discussion of the very true and very

437
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<v Speaker 2>real uh practice of pre modern b D S M

438
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<v Speaker 2>activities and sexual erotic activities, which we will talk about.

439
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<v Speaker 2>Uh and yeah with even with very very old visual aids.

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<v Speaker 1>You will, that's right. Look, you're gonna learn a lot

441
00:28:28.680 --> 00:28:29.640
<v Speaker 1>about Aristotle.

442
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<v Speaker 2>You're gonna You're gonna learn a lot about Aristota. You're

443
00:28:32.400 --> 00:28:36.039
<v Speaker 2>gonna learn a lot about how they've been whipping. You know,

444
00:28:36.119 --> 00:28:39.200
<v Speaker 2>people have liked to get whipped and and and popped

445
00:28:40.960 --> 00:28:45.880
<v Speaker 2>for a long time alone. Yeah, they've they've really into it.

446
00:28:45.920 --> 00:28:48.400
<v Speaker 1>Turns out, yeah, it turns out pony play isn't new.

447
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<v Speaker 3>Anyway.

448
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<v Speaker 2>This week. Uh yeah, this is We're not So Different

449
00:28:54.960 --> 00:28:58.359
<v Speaker 2>podcast about how we've always been idiots and right now,

450
00:28:58.440 --> 00:29:03.359
<v Speaker 2>the the contemporary it is idiocy is too much for

451
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<v Speaker 2>us to delve back in to, uh, to happenings in

452
00:29:09.240 --> 00:29:11.519
<v Speaker 2>the Middle Ages, because like, I don't like, I don't know,

453
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<v Speaker 2>I don't I don't know where to begin. I don't

454
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<v Speaker 2>know what to do, like yeah, like.

455
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<v Speaker 1>Well, okay, so do you know about the bullshit that's

456
00:29:21.119 --> 00:29:25.359
<v Speaker 1>going on over here too, like which, well, yeah, I

457
00:29:25.400 --> 00:29:28.119
<v Speaker 1>know which one. But have I ran said to you

458
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<v Speaker 1>about the crackdowns that we're having on anti Palestine action?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh god, I saw that. I saw some poor old

460
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<v Speaker 2>old man or that woman, like eighty something years old

461
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<v Speaker 2>with a sign that says, UH is like support.

462
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<v Speaker 1>I support Palestine Action.

463
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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I support in small letters Palestine big letters, positive

464
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<v Speaker 2>something something in small letters and then action on the

465
00:29:56.880 --> 00:29:59.759
<v Speaker 2>Palestine action or whatever. It's just like and they arrested

466
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<v Speaker 2>and yeah, they're not even doing that ship here. Dog.

467
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<v Speaker 1>I had to be super careful about the way I

468
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<v Speaker 1>phrase all these things so that I don't get arrested.

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<v Speaker 3>Which is which would you like? Which is good? And

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<v Speaker 3>I could do it? O? No, no, no, So I

471
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<v Speaker 3>just don't want you to get in trouble. That's all

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<v Speaker 3>you very I can.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm this is a good exercise for me. Okay. So

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<v Speaker 1>Palestine Action UH were a group that did non violent

475
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<v Speaker 1>actions against things that materially support the genocide in Palestine.

476
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<v Speaker 1>But what they were specifically doing was I mean absolutely

477
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<v Speaker 1>to be clear, they were doing like misdemeanor property damage.

478
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<v Speaker 2>They were doing things that are technically they were doing crimes.

479
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<v Speaker 2>They were against the letter of the law.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes they were. So. So for example, one of the

481
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<v Speaker 1>things that they did recently was they broke into a

482
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<v Speaker 1>place where some of like the planes that run like

483
00:31:07.319 --> 00:31:10.319
<v Speaker 1>surveillance missions or run things back and forth Israel were

484
00:31:10.359 --> 00:31:12.640
<v Speaker 1>and they splashed paint on them in such a way

485
00:31:12.640 --> 00:31:14.680
<v Speaker 1>that it like covered up their windows or whatever so

486
00:31:14.720 --> 00:31:18.200
<v Speaker 1>they couldn't take off, right, And then it.

487
00:31:18.119 --> 00:31:20.759
<v Speaker 2>Was like, oh, oh that's what they did. Oh yeah, yeah,

488
00:31:20.799 --> 00:31:22.839
<v Speaker 2>which is which I thought they threw pass that they

489
00:31:22.880 --> 00:31:24.839
<v Speaker 2>threw paint on it, and I was like, and I

490
00:31:24.880 --> 00:31:27.279
<v Speaker 2>didn't see the rest, and I was like, maybe the

491
00:31:27.319 --> 00:31:30.079
<v Speaker 2>paint is like reflective so people can see it and

492
00:31:30.119 --> 00:31:32.960
<v Speaker 2>take pictures of Oh yeah, that does make sense.

493
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<v Speaker 1>Okay, Yeah, so basically it covered up like some of

494
00:31:35.319 --> 00:31:38.200
<v Speaker 1>the instrumentation or what they need in order to take off.

495
00:31:38.240 --> 00:31:42.240
<v Speaker 1>And then they were accused of having completely destroyed these planes,

496
00:31:42.319 --> 00:31:45.920
<v Speaker 1>which is bullshit, but you know, like those things are

497
00:31:45.920 --> 00:31:47.680
<v Speaker 1>flying again next week. But you know, it was a

498
00:31:47.720 --> 00:31:52.640
<v Speaker 1>really it was a piece of resistance that was like

499
00:31:52.720 --> 00:31:56.200
<v Speaker 1>non violent and like whatever, it was a crime. I

500
00:31:56.240 --> 00:32:01.440
<v Speaker 1>want to make that clear. What ended up happening is

501
00:32:01.480 --> 00:32:06.720
<v Speaker 1>they have now been prescribed as a terrorist group because

502
00:32:06.839 --> 00:32:12.200
<v Speaker 1>we're all so terrified of the fact that they might

503
00:32:12.359 --> 00:32:17.880
<v Speaker 1>be able to put paint on planes. You know, it's like,

504
00:32:18.000 --> 00:32:20.480
<v Speaker 1>it's pretty much exactly the same thing as charging Luigi

505
00:32:20.480 --> 00:32:24.480
<v Speaker 1>with terrorism when you're like terrorism, aloop bro like who

506
00:32:24.559 --> 00:32:28.759
<v Speaker 1>is terrorist? But this has knock on effects, right, so

507
00:32:29.480 --> 00:32:32.519
<v Speaker 1>you know, they are basically now a group that is

508
00:32:32.559 --> 00:32:37.920
<v Speaker 1>considered legally the same as isis. I'm not joking, and

509
00:32:38.000 --> 00:32:45.799
<v Speaker 1>so if you voice any support for them in public,

510
00:32:46.559 --> 00:32:51.119
<v Speaker 1>you can be arrested for supporting a prescribed terrorist group.

511
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<v Speaker 1>So what happened with that arrest of that that ady something?

512
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<v Speaker 1>Your old person who I cannot stress enough was also

513
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<v Speaker 1>a priest, So that's good.

514
00:33:03.880 --> 00:33:07.079
<v Speaker 2>I did not I didn't see the caller. But yes,

515
00:33:07.119 --> 00:33:10.279
<v Speaker 2>come on, guys, you can't like arresting the eighty year

516
00:33:10.279 --> 00:33:15.079
<v Speaker 2>old priest. That's a real pr nightmare. Guys, maybe let

517
00:33:15.119 --> 00:33:18.279
<v Speaker 2>that maybe let that one go and flag the next one, huh,

518
00:33:18.319 --> 00:33:20.960
<v Speaker 2>I don't know, yes, me, yeah.

519
00:33:20.240 --> 00:33:23.039
<v Speaker 1>And so they were like, well, look, this is obviously,

520
00:33:23.240 --> 00:33:25.640
<v Speaker 1>on its face ridiculous, So we're going to protest this

521
00:33:25.680 --> 00:33:28.480
<v Speaker 1>outside Parliament and they like held these signs out the

522
00:33:28.519 --> 00:33:32.000
<v Speaker 1>SAI support Palestinian action and like they arrested fifty people

523
00:33:32.039 --> 00:33:35.000
<v Speaker 1>for doing that because it's illegal now and you can't

524
00:33:35.039 --> 00:33:38.960
<v Speaker 1>do that, right, So what Britain is doing right now,

525
00:33:38.960 --> 00:33:41.640
<v Speaker 1>that's like a huge crackdown. And now they're also doing

526
00:33:41.680 --> 00:33:46.359
<v Speaker 1>this other big crackdown, which is they're making it so

527
00:33:46.559 --> 00:33:49.720
<v Speaker 1>that on like all social media sites, you have to

528
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<v Speaker 1>register a government ID in order to use it. So

529
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<v Speaker 1>like they are so for example, like a going to

530
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<v Speaker 1>make a blue sky Dot app, bsky dot app has

531
00:34:03.960 --> 00:34:08.719
<v Speaker 1>to like collect your identification. And now part of it

532
00:34:08.719 --> 00:34:10.760
<v Speaker 1>they're saying, it's like, oh, to stop the children from

533
00:34:10.800 --> 00:34:13.960
<v Speaker 1>accessing porn, and like by that they mean like Justin's website, right,

534
00:34:14.119 --> 00:34:17.119
<v Speaker 1>like can't let the can't let the children get sex education,

535
00:34:17.800 --> 00:34:21.039
<v Speaker 1>you know, or like see my book right, which is

536
00:34:21.079 --> 00:34:22.480
<v Speaker 1>like obviously porn.

537
00:34:22.559 --> 00:34:24.480
<v Speaker 2>Or look at porn, yeah, or look.

538
00:34:24.320 --> 00:34:28.199
<v Speaker 1>At porn obviously. But the other thing that they say

539
00:34:28.239 --> 00:34:30.360
<v Speaker 1>is like, oh, well, there's all these these people who

540
00:34:30.440 --> 00:34:37.559
<v Speaker 1>nefariously harass they harass their MPs online and so basically

541
00:34:37.639 --> 00:34:41.159
<v Speaker 1>they want to make it like illegal to at government

542
00:34:41.199 --> 00:34:45.039
<v Speaker 1>officials and so like you're you're gonna be able to

543
00:34:45.119 --> 00:34:48.599
<v Speaker 1>like get done for harassment. And like so there's like

544
00:34:48.639 --> 00:34:52.760
<v Speaker 1>a comrade online that I follow on Blue Sky and

545
00:34:53.280 --> 00:34:56.639
<v Speaker 1>like they for example, got like the police showed up

546
00:34:56.639 --> 00:34:58.800
<v Speaker 1>at their door because like their MP came around during

547
00:34:58.840 --> 00:35:02.800
<v Speaker 1>the election and they're like, hey, you know, get out

548
00:35:02.800 --> 00:35:05.760
<v Speaker 1>of here, you Tory scum or red Tory scum, like

549
00:35:05.880 --> 00:35:08.920
<v Speaker 1>you know, uh, like free Palestine or whatever. This woman

550
00:35:08.960 --> 00:35:13.199
<v Speaker 1>then like called the cops on him, and the cops

551
00:35:13.199 --> 00:35:14.599
<v Speaker 1>came to his door and were like, well, are you

552
00:35:14.639 --> 00:35:18.679
<v Speaker 1>harassing your MP? And he's just like no comment, no comment,

553
00:35:18.920 --> 00:35:21.880
<v Speaker 1>no comment, repeatedly because like it's not it's not illegal

554
00:35:21.960 --> 00:35:24.519
<v Speaker 1>actually to tell your MP to fuck off, but they're

555
00:35:24.599 --> 00:35:27.880
<v Speaker 1>trying to change it. And then he had he was

556
00:35:27.960 --> 00:35:32.119
<v Speaker 1>posting the other day that he'd like written an email

557
00:35:32.280 --> 00:35:34.960
<v Speaker 1>to the same MP and was like and in the

558
00:35:35.159 --> 00:35:37.039
<v Speaker 1>and in the email was like I don't understand how

559
00:35:37.079 --> 00:35:39.960
<v Speaker 1>you sleep at night when you're like voting to send

560
00:35:40.239 --> 00:35:43.840
<v Speaker 1>money to kill Palestinian children. And she wrote back and

561
00:35:43.960 --> 00:35:47.199
<v Speaker 1>was like this is harassment, and it's like it's not,

562
00:35:47.360 --> 00:35:49.880
<v Speaker 1>that's not harassment. That's not harassment, like that it's a

563
00:35:49.960 --> 00:35:53.639
<v Speaker 1>rhetorical question, you know, like that that that is just

564
00:35:53.679 --> 00:35:56.079
<v Speaker 1>a tool of rhetoric that we're using. And so what

565
00:35:56.079 --> 00:35:59.480
<v Speaker 1>we're seeing is like this this bigger and bigger expansion

566
00:35:59.519 --> 00:36:02.079
<v Speaker 1>and now, yes, Palestine is a huge part of that.

567
00:36:02.239 --> 00:36:05.199
<v Speaker 1>Like basically, what they're attempting to do is make it

568
00:36:05.239 --> 00:36:09.599
<v Speaker 1>impossible for us to voice any form of support for

569
00:36:09.719 --> 00:36:12.840
<v Speaker 1>Palestine in public because it's just completely out of their

570
00:36:12.840 --> 00:36:16.480
<v Speaker 1>control at this juncture. And this government in particular really

571
00:36:16.559 --> 00:36:19.280
<v Speaker 1>hitched their wagon to this in order to get rid

572
00:36:19.360 --> 00:36:23.119
<v Speaker 1>of Corbin, right, so because they are the ones who

573
00:36:23.159 --> 00:36:25.800
<v Speaker 1>like stuck the knives in his backs so fucking hard,

574
00:36:26.079 --> 00:36:28.960
<v Speaker 1>they have to play real hardball like oh yeah, like

575
00:36:29.239 --> 00:36:33.760
<v Speaker 1>definitely any support you voice for Palestine at all whatsoever

576
00:36:33.880 --> 00:36:37.519
<v Speaker 1>does make you an anti semi like yeah, like that's

577
00:36:37.639 --> 00:36:40.960
<v Speaker 1>one hundred percent true, and they can't go back on that. Right.

578
00:36:42.559 --> 00:36:46.679
<v Speaker 1>So here we are, right here, we are with this

579
00:36:47.880 --> 00:36:51.960
<v Speaker 1>with this particular conundrum, and it's going to get expanded

580
00:36:52.000 --> 00:36:54.559
<v Speaker 1>and expanded. So you're not even like allowed to complain

581
00:36:54.639 --> 00:36:58.880
<v Speaker 1>about the circumstances that we're in. And that's pretty upsetting.

582
00:37:00.079 --> 00:37:03.239
<v Speaker 2>How they how do they expect to enforce this?

583
00:37:04.360 --> 00:37:08.440
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, because great, Like I mean I just have.

584
00:37:08.519 --> 00:37:11.000
<v Speaker 2>A lot, I just have a lot of questions about

585
00:37:11.079 --> 00:37:15.360
<v Speaker 2>enforcement of things like this because you know, the rest

586
00:37:15.400 --> 00:37:17.760
<v Speaker 2>of the world, in case you had noticed, we're not

587
00:37:17.800 --> 00:37:22.920
<v Speaker 2>really behind the great Chinese firewall that they have and

588
00:37:22.960 --> 00:37:26.719
<v Speaker 2>they are slowly coming out from behind, but that we

589
00:37:26.760 --> 00:37:30.039
<v Speaker 2>don't really have that, and so it makes it very

590
00:37:30.039 --> 00:37:38.320
<v Speaker 2>difficult to do something like this in in one uh state,

591
00:37:38.559 --> 00:37:42.920
<v Speaker 2>in one country when you have a platform that goes

592
00:37:42.920 --> 00:37:45.159
<v Speaker 2>to the entire world, you know, because now Twitter and

593
00:37:45.239 --> 00:37:47.239
<v Speaker 2>blue Sky and everyone else, like they have to do

594
00:37:47.280 --> 00:37:50.320
<v Speaker 2>this and it's just for England. But there are a

595
00:37:50.400 --> 00:37:53.360
<v Speaker 2>lot of things on top of that, because like what

596
00:37:53.480 --> 00:37:57.760
<v Speaker 2>about VPN. So anyone using a pig and anyone in

597
00:37:57.800 --> 00:38:02.000
<v Speaker 2>England using a normal or I mean a normal like

598
00:38:03.320 --> 00:38:06.039
<v Speaker 2>VPN service that you can get completely legal or everything

599
00:38:06.079 --> 00:38:10.679
<v Speaker 2>like that can like bypass this like that. So there's that,

600
00:38:14.760 --> 00:38:19.880
<v Speaker 2>you know, Like how how like I can still a

601
00:38:19.960 --> 00:38:23.480
<v Speaker 2>person from America can still harass you. A person from

602
00:38:23.800 --> 00:38:26.559
<v Speaker 2>from anywhere in the world that has access to these

603
00:38:26.599 --> 00:38:29.880
<v Speaker 2>things that is not England or the United Kingdom can

604
00:38:30.159 --> 00:38:35.880
<v Speaker 2>still harass you. Like is like the entire thing is interconnected?

605
00:38:35.960 --> 00:38:38.320
<v Speaker 2>Like how like that is the thing? These people are

606
00:38:38.360 --> 00:38:41.360
<v Speaker 2>all working from this old playbook where it's like okay,

607
00:38:42.400 --> 00:38:45.199
<v Speaker 2>like from the time when you controlled all the news

608
00:38:45.239 --> 00:38:48.239
<v Speaker 2>media and all the everything else, and it's like you

609
00:38:48.400 --> 00:38:52.440
<v Speaker 2>do not control that anymore. The thing about the Internet,

610
00:38:52.639 --> 00:38:57.159
<v Speaker 2>the thing that that that like really weighs like the

611
00:38:57.159 --> 00:39:01.840
<v Speaker 2>the use and the you the use case for the

612
00:39:01.880 --> 00:39:07.039
<v Speaker 2>goodness of the Internet. There's a lot, a whole lot

613
00:39:07.119 --> 00:39:10.960
<v Speaker 2>of bad shit on it. But we know what is

614
00:39:11.000 --> 00:39:16.719
<v Speaker 2>happening in Gaza right now. Someone in Gaza, a reporter,

615
00:39:18.480 --> 00:39:22.920
<v Speaker 2>a person on the scene, anyone can can pull up

616
00:39:22.960 --> 00:39:25.679
<v Speaker 2>their phone, fire it up, and they can post a

617
00:39:25.760 --> 00:39:28.119
<v Speaker 2>video of what is happening on the streets in Gaza

618
00:39:28.320 --> 00:39:34.000
<v Speaker 2>or Iran or Beijing or wherever right now, and people

619
00:39:34.039 --> 00:39:36.800
<v Speaker 2>can see that. And so all of all of the

620
00:39:36.840 --> 00:39:41.119
<v Speaker 2>propaganda about how like Israel is this beautiful place where

621
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<v Speaker 2>like everyone is nice and it's not a set it's

622
00:39:43.800 --> 00:39:45.760
<v Speaker 2>not a settler colony, and it's not all this sort

623
00:39:45.800 --> 00:39:48.679
<v Speaker 2>of stuff, it immediately goes away because people can see

624
00:39:48.719 --> 00:39:53.199
<v Speaker 2>that and they are horrified by it. And when you

625
00:39:53.320 --> 00:39:55.719
<v Speaker 2>keep trying to do stuff like this like this sounds

626
00:39:55.760 --> 00:39:58.719
<v Speaker 2>like to me, this sounds like the old like almost

627
00:39:58.719 --> 00:40:01.519
<v Speaker 2>like military censorship, uh that they would have had like

628
00:40:01.639 --> 00:40:04.360
<v Speaker 2>during like World War two and stuff like that that

629
00:40:04.559 --> 00:40:07.199
<v Speaker 2>like a lot of yeah, yeah, a lot of countries

630
00:40:07.199 --> 00:40:07.679
<v Speaker 2>were in on.

631
00:40:08.320 --> 00:40:10.000
<v Speaker 1>I think that that's kind of like a part of

632
00:40:10.000 --> 00:40:13.239
<v Speaker 1>what they're they're kind of hoping that they can too.

633
00:40:13.280 --> 00:40:14.840
<v Speaker 1>And I mean that that's one of the problems that

634
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<v Speaker 1>we have here generally, is that people still kind of

635
00:40:17.920 --> 00:40:19.840
<v Speaker 1>think World War Two might still be happening.

636
00:40:21.079 --> 00:40:24.840
<v Speaker 2>So I saw I saw something. I saw something yesterday,

637
00:40:24.880 --> 00:40:27.880
<v Speaker 2>I think where labor was Like we're talking about how

638
00:40:27.920 --> 00:40:30.519
<v Speaker 2>they had to like get all these men ready, how

639
00:40:30.559 --> 00:40:33.000
<v Speaker 2>they had to get all these fighters ready, and it's like,

640
00:40:33.519 --> 00:40:36.760
<v Speaker 2>you guys want the blitz so bad. You want like

641
00:40:36.920 --> 00:40:40.400
<v Speaker 2>you want your Blint, you want your blitz so bad,

642
00:40:40.480 --> 00:40:43.440
<v Speaker 2>and you're just not getting it. And I do I

643
00:40:43.480 --> 00:40:49.239
<v Speaker 2>don't understand, Like I mean, I guess I can't because

644
00:40:49.239 --> 00:40:51.960
<v Speaker 2>I didn't live through it, and the people my family,

645
00:40:52.079 --> 00:40:52.360
<v Speaker 2>to be.

646
00:40:52.320 --> 00:40:55.199
<v Speaker 1>Clear that no one here fucking lived through it. Everyone

647
00:40:55.280 --> 00:40:56.000
<v Speaker 1>who lived through it.

648
00:40:56.039 --> 00:40:59.280
<v Speaker 2>Well, I mean I know, but there's there's there's direct

649
00:40:59.280 --> 00:41:01.480
<v Speaker 2>cultural memory of that and like that, you know, like

650
00:41:02.280 --> 00:41:05.719
<v Speaker 2>different like if your grandmother was like, yeah, I coward

651
00:41:05.920 --> 00:41:14.320
<v Speaker 2>in the basement of our London apartment building for three,

652
00:41:14.440 --> 00:41:16.559
<v Speaker 2>you know, two or three years, Like yeah, I can

653
00:41:16.679 --> 00:41:19.320
<v Speaker 2>understand how that would give you like a weird siege mentality,

654
00:41:19.360 --> 00:41:23.320
<v Speaker 2>but like I don't under like why now, Like what

655
00:41:23.440 --> 00:41:27.199
<v Speaker 2>are you do not live under the blitz? Nothing is

656
00:41:27.239 --> 00:41:29.880
<v Speaker 2>happening to you. No one is attacking you, No one

657
00:41:30.000 --> 00:41:33.639
<v Speaker 2>wants to attack you. They really don't like like that

658
00:41:33.840 --> 00:41:36.119
<v Speaker 2>you're you're a You're a monetary exchange for the rest

659
00:41:36.159 --> 00:41:38.440
<v Speaker 2>of the world. No, if it's to our lovely listeners

660
00:41:38.559 --> 00:41:41.800
<v Speaker 2>in United Kingdom, it is a lovely place and it's

661
00:41:41.840 --> 00:41:44.920
<v Speaker 2>not you. And and I'm not saying I'm not dogging you, uh,

662
00:41:44.920 --> 00:41:48.639
<v Speaker 2>but like you're you're a You're a bank for the

663
00:41:48.639 --> 00:41:50.960
<v Speaker 2>rest of us. That's what you are. You're Hong Kong

664
00:41:51.079 --> 00:41:54.760
<v Speaker 2>basically without the fun you're you're you're no fun Hong Kong.

665
00:41:55.000 --> 00:41:57.800
<v Speaker 1>But we have to believe that people do want to

666
00:41:57.880 --> 00:42:02.039
<v Speaker 1>attack us, because we have to believe that we're important,

667
00:42:02.960 --> 00:42:06.519
<v Speaker 1>you know, Like that's that's the trouble is that, like

668
00:42:07.920 --> 00:42:12.159
<v Speaker 1>if you admit that no one is trying to attach

669
00:42:12.880 --> 00:42:16.119
<v Speaker 1>attack us, then you may as well like admit that

670
00:42:16.199 --> 00:42:18.199
<v Speaker 1>we aren't important, that we no longer have kind of

671
00:42:18.239 --> 00:42:21.639
<v Speaker 1>a global hogevity. It's like that we're desperate for haters,

672
00:42:22.920 --> 00:42:25.440
<v Speaker 1>that we don't have, you know, like where it's.

673
00:42:25.280 --> 00:42:28.280
<v Speaker 2>Like going door to door to try and shock people, Like.

674
00:42:28.320 --> 00:42:31.920
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that is exactly that is exactly it where it's

675
00:42:31.960 --> 00:42:34.800
<v Speaker 1>like one hundred percent. What people are attempting to do

676
00:42:35.119 --> 00:42:39.719
<v Speaker 1>is like drum up some haters out of absolutely nothing.

677
00:42:39.960 --> 00:42:43.119
<v Speaker 2>And it's like, dude, no one's flying fleets at you,

678
00:42:43.400 --> 00:42:47.400
<v Speaker 2>No one's flying fleets at us. We are still at

679
00:42:47.400 --> 00:42:51.239
<v Speaker 2>this point the world destriding colossus. We still have the

680
00:42:51.280 --> 00:42:55.960
<v Speaker 2>imperial tendrils out, We're still doing that shit. But no

681
00:42:56.000 --> 00:42:59.239
<v Speaker 2>one's attacking us either. You know why, because no one

682
00:42:59.320 --> 00:43:03.199
<v Speaker 2>because that's not how the god, because it's not nineteen

683
00:43:03.239 --> 00:43:06.639
<v Speaker 2>forty two anymore. God, it's so insane that like these

684
00:43:06.679 --> 00:43:10.719
<v Speaker 2>people are going to like destroy the they had like

685
00:43:10.760 --> 00:43:15.079
<v Speaker 2>a generation, they had two generations of a lead to

686
00:43:15.280 --> 00:43:18.119
<v Speaker 2>win with, Like after after the Soviet Union started to

687
00:43:18.159 --> 00:43:22.079
<v Speaker 2>go into decline, China shut itself off, like you have

688
00:43:22.719 --> 00:43:27.679
<v Speaker 2>generations to win, you like, you have that and you

689
00:43:27.760 --> 00:43:31.119
<v Speaker 2>cannot do it. You you can't. You are too married

690
00:43:31.159 --> 00:43:35.639
<v Speaker 2>to this like insane reactionary ideology to just not give

691
00:43:35.679 --> 00:43:38.079
<v Speaker 2>a not give a few inches to in order to

692
00:43:38.199 --> 00:43:44.000
<v Speaker 2>ensure yourself, like decades more of the neoliberal slash neo

693
00:43:44.079 --> 00:43:47.039
<v Speaker 2>conservative consensus that we had. But you can't do that

694
00:43:47.119 --> 00:43:50.480
<v Speaker 2>because like giving like an inch to the left at

695
00:43:50.480 --> 00:43:54.920
<v Speaker 2>all is too much anywhere any anywhere in the Western world.

696
00:43:55.039 --> 00:43:55.519
<v Speaker 2>And they.

697
00:43:57.480 --> 00:44:00.760
<v Speaker 1>I think that that that's that's really the problem with

698
00:44:01.840 --> 00:44:08.280
<v Speaker 1>I think with especially neoliberal capitalism in general, because the

699
00:44:08.360 --> 00:44:13.880
<v Speaker 1>trouble is that the entire thing rests on sort of

700
00:44:13.880 --> 00:44:21.000
<v Speaker 1>this this concept of crushing or well basically being parasitic

701
00:44:21.159 --> 00:44:25.400
<v Speaker 1>to the the kind of like post war state that

702
00:44:25.480 --> 00:44:28.320
<v Speaker 1>allowed people to kind of have in okay life, right

703
00:44:28.400 --> 00:44:31.159
<v Speaker 1>like it it siphons off that, which is you know,

704
00:44:31.199 --> 00:44:33.000
<v Speaker 1>it's ironic, you know, because it's like there's the Margaret

705
00:44:33.079 --> 00:44:35.639
<v Speaker 1>Thatcher c that you know. The trouble with socialism is

706
00:44:35.679 --> 00:44:38.480
<v Speaker 1>you eventually run out of other people's money. It's like, okay, well,

707
00:44:38.480 --> 00:44:41.559
<v Speaker 1>the trouble with neoliberalism is you eventually run out of

708
00:44:41.599 --> 00:44:45.559
<v Speaker 1>the government's money that you can privatize.

709
00:44:44.400 --> 00:44:51.440
<v Speaker 2>Right like that pretty yet privatization Now, once you privatize.

710
00:44:51.079 --> 00:44:54.480
<v Speaker 1>That, have private water here, you know how that's going.

711
00:44:55.400 --> 00:44:58.360
<v Speaker 2>You start to privatize the health insurance. You can't privatize

712
00:44:58.360 --> 00:45:00.320
<v Speaker 2>anything beyond that, like pretty much.

713
00:45:00.440 --> 00:45:03.400
<v Speaker 1>It's yeah, it's like we have we have private water

714
00:45:03.679 --> 00:45:07.440
<v Speaker 1>and like it's so bad that basically what happens is

715
00:45:07.440 --> 00:45:10.519
<v Speaker 1>because the water companies, you know, they're in it for profit,

716
00:45:10.920 --> 00:45:13.639
<v Speaker 1>they just dump raw sewage into like all of our

717
00:45:13.679 --> 00:45:17.000
<v Speaker 1>water courses. So there is not a single watercourse in

718
00:45:17.039 --> 00:45:20.760
<v Speaker 1>England or Wales that is safe to swim in because

719
00:45:20.920 --> 00:45:26.519
<v Speaker 1>it's just like so full of of sewage and crazy.

720
00:45:27.559 --> 00:45:33.960
<v Speaker 2>I can go there's there's a lake, you have government water.

721
00:45:34.280 --> 00:45:36.079
<v Speaker 2>Fucking crazy.

722
00:45:36.199 --> 00:45:38.920
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's like it's and hilariously, like one of the

723
00:45:39.000 --> 00:45:42.440
<v Speaker 1>largest controlling shares of uh Thames Water where I live

724
00:45:43.159 --> 00:45:47.199
<v Speaker 1>is like the Ottawa Teachers Union, so we're like subsidizing

725
00:45:47.320 --> 00:45:53.119
<v Speaker 1>the retirements of Canadian teachers and like basically they keep

726
00:45:53.119 --> 00:45:55.719
<v Speaker 1>being like, oh no, we might go bankrupt and then

727
00:45:55.840 --> 00:45:58.320
<v Speaker 1>like we have to bail them out for reasons that

728
00:45:59.079 --> 00:46:02.159
<v Speaker 1>like are beyond me, and like they won't they won't

729
00:46:02.159 --> 00:46:04.320
<v Speaker 1>just like publicize this again, like they won't bring it

730
00:46:04.360 --> 00:46:08.360
<v Speaker 1>back into public control because they're like, oh, well, they

731
00:46:08.360 --> 00:46:10.199
<v Speaker 1>don't deserve to be bought out, and it's like, yeah,

732
00:46:10.239 --> 00:46:13.639
<v Speaker 1>don't fucking buy them out. Like they've completely bankrupted this.

733
00:46:14.000 --> 00:46:16.159
<v Speaker 1>Like what they do is they just pay their shareholders

734
00:46:16.199 --> 00:46:18.559
<v Speaker 1>every single time they've got money they haven't done any

735
00:46:18.679 --> 00:46:21.440
<v Speaker 1>upkeep on any of our water lines. They are charging

736
00:46:21.480 --> 00:46:25.639
<v Speaker 1>me five hundred and fifty quid for a year of

737
00:46:25.679 --> 00:46:31.000
<v Speaker 1>water in a one bedroom flat. That that's what I'm

738
00:46:31.000 --> 00:46:34.760
<v Speaker 1>being charged for that. And it's like, what what the

739
00:46:34.760 --> 00:46:36.159
<v Speaker 1>fuck do you mean? And there's like and it's like

740
00:46:36.400 --> 00:46:38.559
<v Speaker 1>you can't and they like put the they put the

741
00:46:38.639 --> 00:46:40.440
<v Speaker 1>rates up and they're like, oh yeah, well, frownie face,

742
00:46:40.519 --> 00:46:44.480
<v Speaker 1>like you can't do that, right, And there's no way

743
00:46:44.519 --> 00:46:47.039
<v Speaker 1>to argue this because they are a monopoly on what

744
00:46:47.079 --> 00:46:50.320
<v Speaker 1>were government lines. The government lines are not being in

745
00:46:50.559 --> 00:46:54.519
<v Speaker 1>any way maintained because they're like, well then that we

746
00:46:54.559 --> 00:46:56.920
<v Speaker 1>couldn't we couldn't give as much money to the shareholders,

747
00:46:58.119 --> 00:47:01.440
<v Speaker 1>and like this is what happens. This is how neoliberalism works,

748
00:47:01.440 --> 00:47:04.760
<v Speaker 1>and neoliberalism no can just do this because there is

749
00:47:04.840 --> 00:47:08.960
<v Speaker 1>no communist specter to threaten everyone with, right, like there

750
00:47:09.079 --> 00:47:11.760
<v Speaker 1>is like and and there's also also we don't have

751
00:47:11.800 --> 00:47:16.639
<v Speaker 1>any like truly really communist country that we can like

752
00:47:16.760 --> 00:47:18.880
<v Speaker 1>look to and say, well, what are were they getting

753
00:47:18.880 --> 00:47:21.800
<v Speaker 1>over there? Right, So it's just completely unfettered and doing

754
00:47:21.800 --> 00:47:23.440
<v Speaker 1>its own thing. But I mean, I would also argue

755
00:47:23.480 --> 00:47:26.280
<v Speaker 1>that this is what capitalism will always inevitably seek to

756
00:47:26.320 --> 00:47:28.920
<v Speaker 1>do it's always going to it's always going to inevitably

757
00:47:28.960 --> 00:47:33.519
<v Speaker 1>attempt to get rid of whatever buffers there may be

758
00:47:33.639 --> 00:47:40.800
<v Speaker 1>that stop this hideous accumulation. And yeah, it's it's just

759
00:47:40.840 --> 00:47:41.320
<v Speaker 1>really sad.

760
00:47:42.800 --> 00:47:45.960
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean, and I'll be honest even that as

761
00:47:46.039 --> 00:47:48.719
<v Speaker 2>being a rooted now because as China opens up, we

762
00:47:48.800 --> 00:47:51.639
<v Speaker 2>see more and more and more and more, and you

763
00:47:51.679 --> 00:47:54.280
<v Speaker 2>could just see like videos of people you can see

764
00:47:54.320 --> 00:47:57.719
<v Speaker 2>Beijing and Shanghai and all these these wonderful like uh

765
00:47:58.239 --> 00:48:00.760
<v Speaker 2>you know other places that you know, beautiful stuff that

766
00:48:00.800 --> 00:48:03.920
<v Speaker 2>they have and all of this, like you know, the

767
00:48:03.440 --> 00:48:06.039
<v Speaker 2>the lifestyle and the culture that they have over there.

768
00:48:06.039 --> 00:48:08.719
<v Speaker 2>You can see it for yourself without the media, without

769
00:48:08.760 --> 00:48:11.880
<v Speaker 2>the American government as an intern or any government as

770
00:48:11.920 --> 00:48:16.239
<v Speaker 2>an intermediary. And when you see that and you're like,

771
00:48:16.679 --> 00:48:19.199
<v Speaker 2>people go over there and they're like, there aren't homeless people,

772
00:48:19.760 --> 00:48:22.360
<v Speaker 2>Like yeah, they're like.

773
00:48:23.719 --> 00:48:28.920
<v Speaker 1>We used to not have homeless people here. We do now. Yeah.

774
00:48:28.960 --> 00:48:31.079
<v Speaker 1>So yeah, it's like, I mean, because we've been doing that,

775
00:48:31.199 --> 00:48:33.360
<v Speaker 1>We've been doing austerity for so long, and like, I mean,

776
00:48:33.400 --> 00:48:35.400
<v Speaker 1>I guess that's the other thing, just circling way back

777
00:48:35.480 --> 00:48:39.840
<v Speaker 1>that is really difficult with here is that when you

778
00:48:39.880 --> 00:48:42.039
<v Speaker 1>were like, well, how are they going to enforce this thing?

779
00:48:42.119 --> 00:48:44.440
<v Speaker 1>Like who's going to enforce it? Like the one good

780
00:48:44.440 --> 00:48:46.480
<v Speaker 1>thing we did with austerity here? As well as that

781
00:48:46.519 --> 00:48:50.760
<v Speaker 1>there are no fucking cops either. It's like we like

782
00:48:50.800 --> 00:48:55.480
<v Speaker 1>we also like defunded the police, so it's like like

783
00:48:55.719 --> 00:48:58.199
<v Speaker 1>there are no fucking cops, which actually makes it more

784
00:48:58.400 --> 00:49:00.679
<v Speaker 1>like fucked up that they went and arrested, like, you know,

785
00:49:00.760 --> 00:49:03.760
<v Speaker 1>a year old priest, because it's like, dude.

786
00:49:03.679 --> 00:49:06.840
<v Speaker 2>Like, I mean, you have seven cops on rotation in

787
00:49:06.880 --> 00:49:09.280
<v Speaker 2>the country, what are you you? You got three of

788
00:49:09.320 --> 00:49:10.400
<v Speaker 2>them to arrest this guy?

789
00:49:10.719 --> 00:49:13.719
<v Speaker 1>There's like no police And so basically our social order

790
00:49:13.760 --> 00:49:17.119
<v Speaker 1>is being like completely kept together just by people agreeing

791
00:49:17.199 --> 00:49:22.039
<v Speaker 1>to do that, which I think is actually quite interesting

792
00:49:22.039 --> 00:49:24.519
<v Speaker 1>and instructive because people are just like, yeah, I'm not

793
00:49:24.559 --> 00:49:26.960
<v Speaker 1>doing all that, Like I'm not I'm not gonna like

794
00:49:27.079 --> 00:49:28.679
<v Speaker 1>rob my neighbors. Why would I do that? You know,

795
00:49:28.760 --> 00:49:30.599
<v Speaker 1>like even in a time that is really difficult and

796
00:49:30.599 --> 00:49:33.440
<v Speaker 1>when when people are really struggling, right, So I mean

797
00:49:33.559 --> 00:49:36.239
<v Speaker 1>that actually I think speaks very well of us as

798
00:49:36.280 --> 00:49:39.840
<v Speaker 1>a society. And and also it tells you how useless

799
00:49:39.840 --> 00:49:43.320
<v Speaker 1>cops are, right I mean now, to be fair, like,

800
00:49:43.639 --> 00:49:45.119
<v Speaker 1>are there some downsides to it?

801
00:49:45.199 --> 00:49:45.440
<v Speaker 2>Yeah?

802
00:49:45.480 --> 00:49:48.559
<v Speaker 1>You know, like you know, I live in London and

803
00:49:48.679 --> 00:49:51.119
<v Speaker 1>I have a bicycle. Is my major form of transportation?

804
00:49:51.639 --> 00:49:55.199
<v Speaker 1>Do it be getting stolen? Yeah? Like looks this.

805
00:49:55.079 --> 00:49:59.880
<v Speaker 2>Should turn you into a frothing reactionary. Some poor persons

806
00:50:00.039 --> 00:50:03.440
<v Speaker 2>healing your bike because they're tired of walking everywhere. That

807
00:50:03.480 --> 00:50:09.000
<v Speaker 2>should turn you into like pole pot too, like like

808
00:50:10.039 --> 00:50:12.000
<v Speaker 2>you should you should be you should be killing you

809
00:50:12.039 --> 00:50:14.960
<v Speaker 2>should you know, be wanting to kill every every non

810
00:50:15.199 --> 00:50:16.360
<v Speaker 2>white person you see.

811
00:50:16.480 --> 00:50:19.840
<v Speaker 1>You you know, I have a little cry when it happens.

812
00:50:19.960 --> 00:50:21.880
<v Speaker 2>You know, of course you do, because it sucks. You

813
00:50:21.920 --> 00:50:22.119
<v Speaker 2>have to.

814
00:50:22.159 --> 00:50:26.039
<v Speaker 3>I'm sorry, I'm not I'm like, no idea, but I

815
00:50:26.360 --> 00:50:28.440
<v Speaker 3>get over it, right, and also.

816
00:50:28.320 --> 00:50:31.079
<v Speaker 1>Because of course you do because stuff assurance.

817
00:50:31.480 --> 00:50:35.199
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, like I just even if you don't, stuff happens,

818
00:50:35.280 --> 00:50:38.760
<v Speaker 2>you know, you're out, You're out a couple hundred three

819
00:50:38.840 --> 00:50:42.039
<v Speaker 2>or four hundred bucks sometimes, like yeah, exactly, it really sucks,

820
00:50:42.199 --> 00:50:43.960
<v Speaker 2>like but it happens, you know, Like I.

821
00:50:43.880 --> 00:50:46.280
<v Speaker 1>Mean, we don't, we don't love it. It's not necessarily

822
00:50:46.519 --> 00:50:51.639
<v Speaker 1>what I would, uh what I would one hundred percent

823
00:50:51.840 --> 00:50:54.239
<v Speaker 1>want to happen. But like you know, it's just it's

824
00:50:54.360 --> 00:50:55.679
<v Speaker 1>just part of it's all part.

825
00:50:55.559 --> 00:50:58.599
<v Speaker 2>Of the fun, it's all part of the I mean, yeah,

826
00:50:58.960 --> 00:51:03.039
<v Speaker 2>it's like you could have just let Corbin hang around

827
00:51:03.199 --> 00:51:05.559
<v Speaker 2>for a little bit and you would not have these

828
00:51:05.639 --> 00:51:08.599
<v Speaker 2>problems like you you would you would not have all

829
00:51:08.679 --> 00:51:11.000
<v Speaker 2>these if you just let Corbin had like have like

830
00:51:11.039 --> 00:51:14.159
<v Speaker 2>a normal, like little term and then and then you

831
00:51:14.199 --> 00:51:17.679
<v Speaker 2>know kind of pepper everything on the edges with like, wow,

832
00:51:17.760 --> 00:51:20.039
<v Speaker 2>he's not getting much done. You don't talk about all

833
00:51:20.039 --> 00:51:23.119
<v Speaker 2>the obstruction you're doing, but you know whatever, and you

834
00:51:23.239 --> 00:51:25.199
<v Speaker 2>just let that go. But they couldn't, like you, you

835
00:51:25.599 --> 00:51:29.000
<v Speaker 2>couldn't even let this old like guy who wants to

836
00:51:29.039 --> 00:51:32.000
<v Speaker 2>apologize for himself all the time. You couldn't even let

837
00:51:32.079 --> 00:51:36.599
<v Speaker 2>him do that. And now this is the mess that

838
00:51:36.679 --> 00:51:38.519
<v Speaker 2>you have. And it's like I think, I don't know

839
00:51:38.559 --> 00:51:40.159
<v Speaker 2>if I've talked about it on here, but it's something

840
00:51:40.199 --> 00:51:46.840
<v Speaker 2>I've been thinking about a lot. But like communism and socialism,

841
00:51:47.480 --> 00:51:49.960
<v Speaker 2>probably if you, if you, if you just step back

842
00:51:50.000 --> 00:51:53.960
<v Speaker 2>and think about it, they probably shouldn't be around anymore.

843
00:51:55.079 --> 00:52:04.880
<v Speaker 2>Like the Soviet Union fell, Capitalism was triumphant in the nineties,

844
00:52:05.840 --> 00:52:08.599
<v Speaker 2>It like that should have been the end of it,

845
00:52:08.639 --> 00:52:12.679
<v Speaker 2>because people like you don't have real mercantilists around anymore.

846
00:52:13.079 --> 00:52:15.800
<v Speaker 2>You don't have people like and the people who are

847
00:52:15.880 --> 00:52:19.239
<v Speaker 2>like monarchists and want to go back to like medieval life.

848
00:52:19.360 --> 00:52:21.599
<v Speaker 2>Just mean that, like they don't want to see black

849
00:52:21.639 --> 00:52:24.199
<v Speaker 2>people and they don't want to they don't want to

850
00:52:24.199 --> 00:52:26.199
<v Speaker 2>live in the humdrum of the city or what you know.

851
00:52:26.280 --> 00:52:32.440
<v Speaker 2>It's like in in in the nineties, that should have

852
00:52:32.519 --> 00:52:35.960
<v Speaker 2>gone away, and like but like China had like insulated

853
00:52:36.000 --> 00:52:38.519
<v Speaker 2>themselves to such a point, you know, and like they

854
00:52:38.599 --> 00:52:41.440
<v Speaker 2>had even when they had to open up and start

855
00:52:41.480 --> 00:52:45.519
<v Speaker 2>doing their their bits of neoliberalizing, you like you might

856
00:52:45.639 --> 00:52:48.639
<v Speaker 2>you probably would think, like, okay, with the entire weight

857
00:52:48.719 --> 00:52:51.960
<v Speaker 2>of the world bearing down on them, this should have

858
00:52:52.119 --> 00:52:54.079
<v Speaker 2>this should have cracked. It should have cracked China and

859
00:52:54.159 --> 00:52:59.039
<v Speaker 2>Vietnam and Laos in North Korea and Cuba, and they

860
00:52:59.039 --> 00:53:01.920
<v Speaker 2>should have all gone the way Yugoslavia or whatever rip

861
00:53:01.960 --> 00:53:06.119
<v Speaker 2>to a real one. But they didn't, and socialism is

862
00:53:06.199 --> 00:53:10.719
<v Speaker 2>still here. Like you have people in the West who

863
00:53:10.800 --> 00:53:13.440
<v Speaker 2>live in the lap of God who see like these

864
00:53:13.480 --> 00:53:17.039
<v Speaker 2>problems for what they are and they're like, no, there's

865
00:53:17.079 --> 00:53:23.079
<v Speaker 2>a better way. Even though in America, anti communism has

866
00:53:23.159 --> 00:53:29.400
<v Speaker 2>been the raison debt of our government for eighty years.

867
00:53:29.519 --> 00:53:31.760
<v Speaker 2>This year, it'll be eighty years since the end of

868
00:53:31.800 --> 00:53:35.639
<v Speaker 2>World War two. Eighty fucking years. No one in this

869
00:53:35.800 --> 00:53:40.519
<v Speaker 2>country should still like should have these ideas. You should

870
00:53:40.559 --> 00:53:43.079
<v Speaker 2>spit when you hear the name of Marx, but you

871
00:53:43.239 --> 00:53:45.679
<v Speaker 2>don't because this shit is so bad and you can

872
00:53:45.760 --> 00:53:49.559
<v Speaker 2>see it happening everywhere else. And like, yeah, like the

873
00:53:49.599 --> 00:53:54.280
<v Speaker 2>communist countries did have to neoliberalize to an extent, but

874
00:53:54.519 --> 00:53:59.840
<v Speaker 2>like when you look at China and you look at Vietnam,

875
00:54:00.239 --> 00:54:04.840
<v Speaker 2>like like the like, they seem so much more competent

876
00:54:04.920 --> 00:54:09.800
<v Speaker 2>and put together than the ramshackle bullshit we've got going on.

877
00:54:09.880 --> 00:54:13.360
<v Speaker 2>And it's just like it does give me hope because

878
00:54:13.400 --> 00:54:16.519
<v Speaker 2>like people like people in the West, people in like

879
00:54:16.679 --> 00:54:19.119
<v Speaker 2>other people in parts of the world that are not

880
00:54:20.159 --> 00:54:24.800
<v Speaker 2>very adjacent to socialist or communist countries should not still

881
00:54:25.000 --> 00:54:29.559
<v Speaker 2>be adhering to this old doctrine that was supposedly completely

882
00:54:29.599 --> 00:54:33.239
<v Speaker 2>destroyed in nineteen ninety one, you know, end of History

883
00:54:33.320 --> 00:54:36.679
<v Speaker 2>and all that shit. You know, uh Fukuyama and you

884
00:54:36.679 --> 00:54:44.360
<v Speaker 2>know his uh incredibly wrong prediction. But like socialism is

885
00:54:44.400 --> 00:54:46.679
<v Speaker 2>supposed to be dead and it's it's not. And like.

886
00:54:48.480 --> 00:54:49.159
<v Speaker 1>There's a specta.

887
00:54:51.079 --> 00:54:54.320
<v Speaker 2>It's the happenstances of this world to put us in

888
00:54:54.360 --> 00:54:58.800
<v Speaker 2>this position. And it's like I do I just find

889
00:54:58.840 --> 00:55:01.360
<v Speaker 2>it so interesting because like now we are at this

890
00:55:01.480 --> 00:55:05.599
<v Speaker 2>point with like it looks like both of the parties

891
00:55:05.639 --> 00:55:08.159
<v Speaker 2>in America in the next decade are going to break,

892
00:55:08.159 --> 00:55:12.639
<v Speaker 2>if not much much sooner than that. And like one

893
00:55:12.679 --> 00:55:17.440
<v Speaker 2>of the proximate causes to this will be somebody in

894
00:55:17.519 --> 00:55:24.960
<v Speaker 2>the government killing the world's most notorious pedophile. Like when

895
00:55:25.000 --> 00:55:28.199
<v Speaker 2>this collapses, if it collapses in the next ten or

896
00:55:28.199 --> 00:55:34.280
<v Speaker 2>fifteen years, that will be a massive, massive, fucking massive

897
00:55:34.320 --> 00:55:36.559
<v Speaker 2>part of it. And it's all because these idiots and

898
00:55:36.639 --> 00:55:43.159
<v Speaker 2>like Trump and Elon weakening the deep state because like, uh,

899
00:55:43.599 --> 00:55:46.320
<v Speaker 2>government spending and then they realized they didn't care about

900
00:55:46.360 --> 00:55:49.039
<v Speaker 2>government spending anymore, but they'd already hollowed out the soft

901
00:55:49.079 --> 00:55:55.039
<v Speaker 2>power Apparatuss And you're just like, what if you were trying,

902
00:55:55.199 --> 00:55:58.039
<v Speaker 2>if I was writing a script, and how like some

903
00:55:58.400 --> 00:56:01.760
<v Speaker 2>more bumbling moron could go in and uh kind of

904
00:56:01.920 --> 00:56:05.559
<v Speaker 2>mister magoo their way into like destroying the American empire.

905
00:56:06.000 --> 00:56:09.320
<v Speaker 2>These are things that I would do, like backing Israel

906
00:56:09.400 --> 00:56:11.760
<v Speaker 2>to the hip both sides, backing Israel to the hilt,

907
00:56:11.800 --> 00:56:17.079
<v Speaker 2>both sides backing immigration like concentration camps and just brutalism

908
00:56:17.480 --> 00:56:22.880
<v Speaker 2>to the hilt. Both sides like being afraid to attack

909
00:56:22.960 --> 00:56:25.679
<v Speaker 2>the other over this Epstein stuff because they're both implicated.

910
00:56:26.039 --> 00:56:29.559
<v Speaker 2>This kind of stuff completely hollows out remaining trusts that

911
00:56:29.599 --> 00:56:34.519
<v Speaker 2>people have in these governments. It's like I harp on it,

912
00:56:34.559 --> 00:56:37.280
<v Speaker 2>I talk about it a lot, but like, what.

913
00:56:37.400 --> 00:56:37.960
<v Speaker 1>Are you wrong?

914
00:56:38.440 --> 00:56:39.480
<v Speaker 2>I don't think I am.

915
00:56:39.639 --> 00:56:40.360
<v Speaker 1>I don't think you are.

916
00:56:40.440 --> 00:56:42.360
<v Speaker 2>I don't know what's gonna happen. You can all throw

917
00:56:42.360 --> 00:56:44.039
<v Speaker 2>this in my face in the camps if you want.

918
00:56:44.039 --> 00:56:49.000
<v Speaker 2>When it happens, I don't know, but like I don't

919
00:56:49.039 --> 00:56:52.400
<v Speaker 2>think you would. But some people but like like people

920
00:56:52.559 --> 00:56:57.400
<v Speaker 2>just like and like you see these things like oh,

921
00:56:57.440 --> 00:57:00.400
<v Speaker 2>it's it's so over, you know this like thing, and

922
00:57:00.440 --> 00:57:04.039
<v Speaker 2>it's like these people do not have the control that

923
00:57:04.079 --> 00:57:08.639
<v Speaker 2>they won't. This is the second time as farce through fascism.

924
00:57:08.920 --> 00:57:11.360
<v Speaker 2>Like the first time is tragedy, this time is farest

925
00:57:11.360 --> 00:57:16.639
<v Speaker 2>It's tragedy plus stupidity. That's where we're at. It's tragedy

926
00:57:16.679 --> 00:57:21.199
<v Speaker 2>plus like ultra stupidity that is myopically centered on itself,

927
00:57:21.920 --> 00:57:25.039
<v Speaker 2>Like do you realize that it like, how insane it

928
00:57:25.079 --> 00:57:28.400
<v Speaker 2>is for all of these governments to start going so

929
00:57:28.719 --> 00:57:32.079
<v Speaker 2>like internal and navel gazing and starting to do hard

930
00:57:32.119 --> 00:57:36.400
<v Speaker 2>borders and everything. We already established international community or international

931
00:57:36.400 --> 00:57:38.320
<v Speaker 2>capitalism as the way of things at the end of

932
00:57:38.360 --> 00:57:41.119
<v Speaker 2>World War two, the Breton Woods Agreement. Even though we

933
00:57:41.199 --> 00:57:42.840
<v Speaker 2>broke it when we took it off, the gold standard

934
00:57:42.960 --> 00:57:45.360
<v Speaker 2>is still in effect because the dollar is still the

935
00:57:45.400 --> 00:57:51.199
<v Speaker 2>world reserve currency. You cannot have an American power, an

936
00:57:51.199 --> 00:57:55.280
<v Speaker 2>American empire without the dollar, and you cannot have the

937
00:57:55.320 --> 00:57:59.199
<v Speaker 2>dollar as the world reserve currency without having an international

938
00:57:59.320 --> 00:58:03.800
<v Speaker 2>capitalist regime that every that basically everybody is part of

939
00:58:03.880 --> 00:58:13.639
<v Speaker 2>either by hook or by crook. And now you're like, oh,

940
00:58:13.679 --> 00:58:17.079
<v Speaker 2>we don't need to do internationalism. Globalism is evil. It's like, bitch,

941
00:58:17.119 --> 00:58:20.599
<v Speaker 2>the only reason any of this exists is because of globalism.

942
00:58:21.039 --> 00:58:25.519
<v Speaker 2>That's it. That's that's the thing. Like that like all

943
00:58:25.559 --> 00:58:29.199
<v Speaker 2>those fucking State Department US State Department fascists, like the

944
00:58:29.320 --> 00:58:33.800
<v Speaker 2>dullest Is who like like we're making deals with every

945
00:58:33.920 --> 00:58:37.599
<v Speaker 2>fascist in Europe, like behind Hitler's back, Like Hitler's a

946
00:58:37.599 --> 00:58:40.320
<v Speaker 2>little too problematic for us, but you know, we're fine

947
00:58:40.320 --> 00:58:44.559
<v Speaker 2>with you. Ustasia, guys, taking you out of Europe on ratlines.

948
00:58:44.840 --> 00:58:46.920
<v Speaker 2>The Pope is big fans of them, by the way,

949
00:58:48.079 --> 00:58:55.480
<v Speaker 2>and uh, like they they knew that, they knew that

950
00:58:55.519 --> 00:58:58.480
<v Speaker 2>this was a global thing and that national capitalism would

951
00:58:58.519 --> 00:59:03.599
<v Speaker 2>destroy everyone because we just myopically at ourselves and and

952
00:59:04.960 --> 00:59:12.199
<v Speaker 2>launch our world killing weapons against other people. And they're

953
00:59:12.239 --> 00:59:16.480
<v Speaker 2>just they're just running away from it. There they are

954
00:59:16.559 --> 00:59:19.760
<v Speaker 2>killing the Golden Goose. Well they are.

955
00:59:20.119 --> 00:59:22.719
<v Speaker 1>I just genuinely believe that this is a result of

956
00:59:22.760 --> 00:59:25.079
<v Speaker 1>the fact that people are really fucking stupid and they

957
00:59:25.079 --> 00:59:28.559
<v Speaker 1>don't realize it. Like every one of these these bitches

958
00:59:28.599 --> 00:59:31.039
<v Speaker 1>who thinks that they're like really clever and believes in

959
00:59:31.079 --> 00:59:33.639
<v Speaker 1>IQ and everything is the stupidest person you've ever met

960
00:59:33.639 --> 00:59:38.039
<v Speaker 1>in your life. And they have absolutely no concept of

961
00:59:38.039 --> 00:59:40.920
<v Speaker 1>what it takes to run even like their own bullshit.

962
00:59:41.639 --> 00:59:43.679
<v Speaker 2>Even if you get us, even if you get the

963
00:59:43.719 --> 00:59:46.800
<v Speaker 2>two of us, you're not beating China. It doesn't matter.

964
00:59:47.039 --> 00:59:49.960
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I don't like you actually needed any and I

965
00:59:50.000 --> 00:59:51.280
<v Speaker 1>would prefer to.

966
00:59:51.239 --> 00:59:56.639
<v Speaker 2>See it, but like, yeah, fuck off, fuck off. You

967
00:59:56.679 --> 00:59:59.440
<v Speaker 2>guys are just strangling the golden goose while you tell

968
00:59:59.480 --> 01:00:01.880
<v Speaker 2>everyone that the goose is still strong and healthy and

969
01:00:01.920 --> 01:00:03.239
<v Speaker 2>shitting gold and it's.

970
01:00:03.079 --> 01:00:05.880
<v Speaker 1>Like it's like, you know, the trouble is I mean,

971
01:00:05.920 --> 01:00:08.360
<v Speaker 1>I really do think that, uh, China is going to

972
01:00:08.400 --> 01:00:10.239
<v Speaker 1>be the trouble with it because people can kind of

973
01:00:10.239 --> 01:00:12.760
<v Speaker 1>see that there there's a new game in town, and

974
01:00:12.840 --> 01:00:16.119
<v Speaker 1>like that's just you can try. You can try signophobia

975
01:00:16.199 --> 01:00:19.800
<v Speaker 1>all you want, and you know, signophobia is a is

976
01:00:19.840 --> 01:00:24.119
<v Speaker 1>a pretty powerful force unfortunately, but like it's just a

977
01:00:25.960 --> 01:00:30.239
<v Speaker 1>lot more. Yeah, it's then you think.

978
01:00:30.079 --> 01:00:32.760
<v Speaker 2>You know, yeah, I see China. I think of like

979
01:00:32.880 --> 01:00:36.920
<v Speaker 2>the Great Wall and like and and Mao and and

980
01:00:36.960 --> 01:00:41.440
<v Speaker 2>fucking Yooming and like stuff like that. It's like like

981
01:00:42.800 --> 01:00:47.519
<v Speaker 2>we the world has moved past this, they really have.

982
01:00:47.800 --> 01:00:52.480
<v Speaker 2>People like our leaders have not clearly because they are

983
01:00:52.519 --> 01:00:55.239
<v Speaker 2>invested in an old, dying system that they're going to

984
01:00:55.360 --> 01:00:58.119
<v Speaker 2>cling onto at all costs with their fingernails dug into it.

985
01:00:58.159 --> 01:01:05.119
<v Speaker 2>But like, is are people going to continue doing that

986
01:01:05.159 --> 01:01:08.159
<v Speaker 2>in the future, like all of these people like in

987
01:01:08.360 --> 01:01:14.679
<v Speaker 2>thirty in thirty years, if the if the population continues

988
01:01:14.760 --> 01:01:20.079
<v Speaker 2>as it is and the views keep changing as they

989
01:01:20.119 --> 01:01:25.360
<v Speaker 2>are in twenty or thirty years supporting Israel, which still

990
01:01:25.360 --> 01:01:27.320
<v Speaker 2>won't be a thing by then there's a fucking way,

991
01:01:27.360 --> 01:01:30.079
<v Speaker 2>but like it will be like it would be like

992
01:01:30.159 --> 01:01:33.320
<v Speaker 2>a two percent thing like we are talking about like

993
01:01:33.480 --> 01:01:42.360
<v Speaker 2>something that is so they control everything until they don't

994
01:01:42.960 --> 01:01:47.400
<v Speaker 2>until it cracks, until it breaks. And I don't know.

995
01:01:47.559 --> 01:01:49.199
<v Speaker 2>I've said it before, I say it again. I don't

996
01:01:49.199 --> 01:01:53.159
<v Speaker 2>know when that happened. Eighty years, eighty hours, I don't

997
01:01:53.199 --> 01:01:55.719
<v Speaker 2>fucking know. Maybe after I'm dead, maybe it'll be over

998
01:01:55.800 --> 01:02:01.239
<v Speaker 2>my bones. But whatever, Like something's got to change, and

999
01:02:01.320 --> 01:02:03.480
<v Speaker 2>people understand that I don't know what's going to happen.

1000
01:02:04.559 --> 01:02:07.559
<v Speaker 2>I mean, but like, yeah, I don't know. I don't

1001
01:02:07.760 --> 01:02:09.760
<v Speaker 2>I don't know what's going to happen. I understand why

1002
01:02:09.760 --> 01:02:12.639
<v Speaker 2>people are depressed, but to me, like I just see

1003
01:02:12.639 --> 01:02:17.920
<v Speaker 2>this stuff and I'm just like America collapsing because the

1004
01:02:18.000 --> 01:02:21.320
<v Speaker 2>two parties in power wouldn't fight each other and wouldn't

1005
01:02:21.360 --> 01:02:24.239
<v Speaker 2>have it out over, like, wouldn't just expel all the

1006
01:02:24.280 --> 01:02:28.039
<v Speaker 2>pediasts and try to maintain power. Like if you're the

1007
01:02:28.159 --> 01:02:31.920
<v Speaker 2>if you're the Democrats, fucking tell Bill Clinton and Hillary

1008
01:02:32.000 --> 01:02:33.119
<v Speaker 2>to pack it up.

1009
01:02:34.440 --> 01:02:36.199
<v Speaker 1>Bye bye.

1010
01:02:36.400 --> 01:02:39.920
<v Speaker 2>Like if like you like the Democrats, this is so easy,

1011
01:02:39.960 --> 01:02:40.639
<v Speaker 2>but they won't.

1012
01:02:41.039 --> 01:02:44.119
<v Speaker 1>It's the dude, this is the way that America should

1013
01:02:44.159 --> 01:02:44.519
<v Speaker 1>go out.

1014
01:02:49.000 --> 01:02:53.760
<v Speaker 2>A guy, a fake financier who is basically just a

1015
01:02:54.760 --> 01:02:59.119
<v Speaker 2>basically just a guy who who connected wealthy mostly men

1016
01:02:59.360 --> 01:03:04.840
<v Speaker 2>with with young women. And he did that for all

1017
01:03:04.880 --> 01:03:08.760
<v Speaker 2>of the people in power all across the world. And

1018
01:03:08.800 --> 01:03:14.960
<v Speaker 2>now like and now all this instead of just like

1019
01:03:15.039 --> 01:03:18.000
<v Speaker 2>sacrificing a few a couple of people, just just give

1020
01:03:18.079 --> 01:03:21.599
<v Speaker 2>the people, like, you know, just push Bill Clinton Trump

1021
01:03:21.639 --> 01:03:23.840
<v Speaker 2>out there and then just kind of be like, okay, whatever,

1022
01:03:23.960 --> 01:03:27.679
<v Speaker 2>like we'll figure you know, like it's but you won't

1023
01:03:27.800 --> 01:03:30.639
<v Speaker 2>you will not do that like to preserve anything, because

1024
01:03:30.639 --> 01:03:33.280
<v Speaker 2>that would just break too much stuff and then, you know,

1025
01:03:34.280 --> 01:03:42.360
<v Speaker 2>then you wouldn't be whatever this fucking mishmash ideology you

1026
01:03:42.440 --> 01:03:51.280
<v Speaker 2>have now of like right wing and like barely centrist beliefs, Like, you.

1027
01:03:51.280 --> 01:03:53.000
<v Speaker 1>Know, what a time to be alive.

1028
01:03:53.440 --> 01:03:57.840
<v Speaker 2>It is, what a fucking time, What a weird, stupid, funny,

1029
01:04:00.880 --> 01:04:04.880
<v Speaker 2>so funny time to be like it there is so

1030
01:04:05.039 --> 01:04:09.840
<v Speaker 2>much horror, but like at the same time, like America,

1031
01:04:10.360 --> 01:04:14.679
<v Speaker 2>when I was a kid, America was an eternal thing.

1032
01:04:15.079 --> 01:04:17.639
<v Speaker 2>It was never going to end. In my mind, I

1033
01:04:17.639 --> 01:04:21.159
<v Speaker 2>could not conceive of America ending because how how would

1034
01:04:21.159 --> 01:04:24.920
<v Speaker 2>it happen? We outspent the Soviets, We spent them into

1035
01:04:24.920 --> 01:04:28.599
<v Speaker 2>the grave. China I fucking know anything about China, Like

1036
01:04:29.239 --> 01:04:31.920
<v Speaker 2>who's going to come over here? Or you can't attack

1037
01:04:31.960 --> 01:04:33.920
<v Speaker 2>us from the seas, So is it Canada in Mexico?

1038
01:04:34.159 --> 01:04:38.119
<v Speaker 2>Come on, that's stupid. But now now we're being just pulled.

1039
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<v Speaker 2>We're pulled apart. We're pulled apart by contradictions that are

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01:04:41.719 --> 01:04:45.960
<v Speaker 2>so sharp we have no idea how to how to

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01:04:46.000 --> 01:04:49.719
<v Speaker 2>handle them. And the people in power are so corrupt

1042
01:04:49.800 --> 01:04:56.719
<v Speaker 2>and so just bereft of anything, any redeeming quality whatsoever.

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<v Speaker 2>It's just like, yeah, why would people want to say this?

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01:05:00.440 --> 01:05:05.599
<v Speaker 2>What is there to save? Like this structure sucks. You

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01:05:05.639 --> 01:05:08.639
<v Speaker 2>want to save the people, You want to save the land.

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01:05:09.760 --> 01:05:10.159
<v Speaker 1>Mm hmm.

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01:05:10.920 --> 01:05:15.079
<v Speaker 2>You want to save like society, a global society as

1048
01:05:15.119 --> 01:05:20.559
<v Speaker 2>a whole. But this ship, these borders, this genocide, this

1049
01:05:20.760 --> 01:05:25.239
<v Speaker 2>genocidal pediass state that we are all enthralled to or

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01:05:25.440 --> 01:05:27.920
<v Speaker 2>controlled by in some way.

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01:05:28.159 --> 01:05:29.800
<v Speaker 1>No, Yeah, I'm good.

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01:05:30.400 --> 01:05:32.880
<v Speaker 2>Fuck it. Fuck all of them, all of them, all

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01:05:32.880 --> 01:05:35.079
<v Speaker 2>the borders, all of them, fuck them, fuck them all,

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01:05:35.119 --> 01:05:38.840
<v Speaker 2>fuck all the countries, get whatever. Such a fuck. I

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01:05:38.880 --> 01:05:40.639
<v Speaker 2>always sound like such a fucking hippie when I talk

1056
01:05:40.639 --> 01:05:43.079
<v Speaker 2>about this. It's like, oh, just like we can do it,

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01:05:43.119 --> 01:05:47.159
<v Speaker 2>but we can these borders don't mean anything. The Canadian

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01:05:47.239 --> 01:05:50.079
<v Speaker 2>border with America is just like a bunch of land

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01:05:50.119 --> 01:05:53.119
<v Speaker 2>that they mow like with a with a big zone

1060
01:05:53.159 --> 01:05:54.679
<v Speaker 2>in the middle of it. Like it doesn't that that

1061
01:05:55.000 --> 01:05:57.119
<v Speaker 2>it's not real. It's not it's not a it's not

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01:05:57.159 --> 01:06:00.800
<v Speaker 2>a functional border. Even the Rio Grande is a real border.

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01:06:00.880 --> 01:06:03.679
<v Speaker 2>The river between US and Mexico, like it is, but

1064
01:06:04.159 --> 01:06:07.599
<v Speaker 2>it also stops part of the way, like it doesn't

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01:06:07.920 --> 01:06:08.519
<v Speaker 2>it doesn't end.

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01:06:08.679 --> 01:06:10.679
<v Speaker 1>But that's not important.

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01:06:13.159 --> 01:06:18.760
<v Speaker 2>I anyway, Like I don't know what's gonna happen. Maybe

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01:06:18.800 --> 01:06:24.760
<v Speaker 2>I'll eat my words tomorrow. I don't fucking know. But like, well,

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01:06:24.840 --> 01:06:30.559
<v Speaker 2>you know, it's insane, what an insane time. I'm glad.

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01:06:30.679 --> 01:06:33.159
<v Speaker 2>I'm glad if I have to spend it that I

1071
01:06:33.199 --> 01:06:35.000
<v Speaker 2>could spend it with you all.

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01:06:35.679 --> 01:06:38.440
<v Speaker 1>You know, with like I'll tell you what. The homies

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01:06:38.440 --> 01:06:41.159
<v Speaker 1>are thriving. Okay, no, we're not. We're very distressed, but

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01:06:41.519 --> 01:06:44.000
<v Speaker 1>uh but we're here and we love each other. And

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01:06:44.039 --> 01:06:45.360
<v Speaker 1>that's what we've got going.

1076
01:06:45.519 --> 01:06:48.800
<v Speaker 2>Under so much under so much stress, so much anxiety

1077
01:06:48.840 --> 01:06:53.880
<v Speaker 2>about the world and kids and life and money and everything.

1078
01:06:54.119 --> 01:06:57.800
<v Speaker 2>And but at the same time just fucking laughing, because

1079
01:06:57.920 --> 01:07:02.519
<v Speaker 2>like what else am I supposed to do with this shit,

1080
01:07:03.599 --> 01:07:08.679
<v Speaker 2>like what what?

1081
01:07:08.440 --> 01:07:08.480
<v Speaker 1>What?

1082
01:07:08.800 --> 01:07:11.079
<v Speaker 2>Where's our TikTok band? The thing that was going to

1083
01:07:11.119 --> 01:07:13.000
<v Speaker 2>be the end of the world, the fucking TikTok ban.

1084
01:07:13.400 --> 01:07:16.039
<v Speaker 2>And that is a law in this country that Trump

1085
01:07:16.400 --> 01:07:20.280
<v Speaker 2>just keeps telling me ag not to enforce, like so,

1086
01:07:20.920 --> 01:07:24.360
<v Speaker 2>a law to keep a Chinese company open in this

1087
01:07:24.519 --> 01:07:30.320
<v Speaker 2>country after the Democrats stupidly voted, like pushed to ban

1088
01:07:30.480 --> 01:07:33.440
<v Speaker 2>it because that was going to stop people from learning

1089
01:07:33.480 --> 01:07:39.400
<v Speaker 2>about Israel's crimes apparently, and it's something you would think

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01:07:39.639 --> 01:07:45.400
<v Speaker 2>they would that Republicans would enforce because it's China, it's

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01:07:45.440 --> 01:07:48.719
<v Speaker 2>a Chinese company and they're doing propaganda to some degree

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01:07:48.800 --> 01:07:49.280
<v Speaker 2>or whatever.

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01:07:49.400 --> 01:07:50.480
<v Speaker 1>But absolutely are.

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01:07:50.719 --> 01:07:54.559
<v Speaker 2>But you oh yeah, yeah, but you can't. But but

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01:07:54.599 --> 01:07:58.840
<v Speaker 2>they can't do that because like young people love it

1096
01:07:58.960 --> 01:08:01.840
<v Speaker 2>too much. It's too much of a platform for people,

1097
01:08:05.840 --> 01:08:09.760
<v Speaker 2>and they just keep not enforcing their own law to

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01:08:09.800 --> 01:08:14.159
<v Speaker 2>help the country that is going to take over the

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01:08:14.360 --> 01:08:18.920
<v Speaker 2>global hedge of hege Miny from US in ten fifteen years,

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01:08:18.960 --> 01:08:21.920
<v Speaker 2>five years, two years, twenty I don't fucking know, but.

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01:08:21.960 --> 01:08:24.840
<v Speaker 1>Like, well they couldn't because remember then all the kids

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01:08:24.880 --> 01:08:26.720
<v Speaker 1>went and got on the Chinese one, and then the

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01:08:26.800 --> 01:08:28.760
<v Speaker 1>Chinese people came me like, hey, is it true that

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01:08:28.800 --> 01:08:31.159
<v Speaker 1>America is this fuck up? And then everyone was sad.

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01:08:31.319 --> 01:08:33.720
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and then and then they were and everybody went

1106
01:08:33.760 --> 01:08:35.840
<v Speaker 2>and got on that stuff, and everybody's like, wait, what,

1107
01:08:36.920 --> 01:08:39.600
<v Speaker 2>Like these people are just normal people like us. They

1108
01:08:39.640 --> 01:08:42.840
<v Speaker 2>have the same fears and hopes and dreams and like,

1109
01:08:43.359 --> 01:08:47.079
<v Speaker 2>and they're and and they're like, is it government propaganda

1110
01:08:47.119 --> 01:08:49.159
<v Speaker 2>that you guys have to pay for health's insurance? No

1111
01:08:49.239 --> 01:08:56.359
<v Speaker 2>it's not No, No, it's not provided to us. Yes,

1112
01:08:56.399 --> 01:08:59.800
<v Speaker 2>they're only people. Yes, yes, this is the wealthiest country

1113
01:08:59.800 --> 01:09:05.319
<v Speaker 2>and history. Yes, we are suffering under mountains of personal debt.

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01:09:05.520 --> 01:09:06.479
<v Speaker 1>Like, I.

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01:09:08.520 --> 01:09:12.760
<v Speaker 2>Fantastic, What an insane I'm not kidding. What an insane

1116
01:09:12.800 --> 01:09:19.840
<v Speaker 2>time to be alive? What an insane? What an insane era?

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01:09:20.600 --> 01:09:22.199
<v Speaker 2>I don't even know. I don't know what. I don't

1118
01:09:22.239 --> 01:09:24.760
<v Speaker 2>know what the folks gonna happen. I have no idea, folks.

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01:09:26.720 --> 01:09:28.800
<v Speaker 1>We have it's emotional, folks.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't even know what to do with this. If

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01:09:31.800 --> 01:09:34.760
<v Speaker 2>you didn't want to hear about English and American politics today,

1122
01:09:34.800 --> 01:09:37.760
<v Speaker 2>well I'm real sorry. Come to the wrong the wrong,

1123
01:09:38.560 --> 01:09:41.600
<v Speaker 2>the wrong place, because we'll be back next week.

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01:09:41.680 --> 01:09:47.000
<v Speaker 1>We'll talk about yourself we we we are also people

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01:09:47.119 --> 01:09:52.920
<v Speaker 1>who have to live in the same wretched world as you.

1126
01:09:53.119 --> 01:09:55.920
<v Speaker 1>And yeah, sometimes we just gotta we gotta get it

1127
01:09:55.960 --> 01:09:58.479
<v Speaker 1>off our chest. So that's what's up. That's what's up.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh man. I was listening to a podcast and I

1129
01:10:04.520 --> 01:10:06.600
<v Speaker 2>won't say which one because I do like the podcast,

1130
01:10:06.640 --> 01:10:08.800
<v Speaker 2>but one of the hosts was like talking about something

1131
01:10:08.840 --> 01:10:11.479
<v Speaker 2>and they were like, you know, well, maybe this is

1132
01:10:11.520 --> 01:10:13.960
<v Speaker 2>how and they said, maybe this is how it's happening

1133
01:10:14.159 --> 01:10:17.000
<v Speaker 2>in a country that's not descending into fascism, you know,

1134
01:10:17.199 --> 01:10:23.199
<v Speaker 2>like England, and I died. I was like, like a couple, Like,

1135
01:10:23.640 --> 01:10:26.000
<v Speaker 2>I'll be honest with you. They got they probably have

1136
01:10:26.079 --> 01:10:27.159
<v Speaker 2>it worse than we do.

1137
01:10:28.840 --> 01:10:31.319
<v Speaker 1>Look at least we kind of a little bit have healthcare.

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01:10:32.159 --> 01:10:34.800
<v Speaker 2>You got me there. I can't I can't do anything

1139
01:10:35.199 --> 01:10:39.479
<v Speaker 2>about that. Unfortunately, now you will have to provide three

1140
01:10:39.600 --> 01:10:45.560
<v Speaker 2>forms of ID to post look at my slutty little dress,

1141
01:10:45.840 --> 01:10:49.760
<v Speaker 2>or I think the government should not kill children? You know,

1142
01:10:50.119 --> 01:10:50.760
<v Speaker 2>how dare you.

1143
01:10:53.000 --> 01:10:56.239
<v Speaker 1>The two genders? Time to be alive?

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01:10:56.720 --> 01:10:59.560
<v Speaker 2>Oh fuck, yeah, what a time to be alive. We're

1145
01:10:59.600 --> 01:11:03.239
<v Speaker 2>not so different, et cetera, et cetera. Folks, you know

1146
01:11:04.600 --> 01:11:07.000
<v Speaker 2>that's gonna do it? For us today. Uh, just a

1147
01:11:07.039 --> 01:11:10.159
<v Speaker 2>free flowing discussion of current events. I hope it didn't

1148
01:11:10.199 --> 01:11:12.720
<v Speaker 2>stress you out too much. If it did, uh, you know,

1149
01:11:13.800 --> 01:11:21.520
<v Speaker 2>happy thoughts. Sorry, Yeah, well we'll get there. We will

1150
01:11:21.560 --> 01:11:25.520
<v Speaker 2>get there. We will win. There are more of us

1151
01:11:25.600 --> 01:11:29.960
<v Speaker 2>than them. We will win. And uh, yeah, we'll get there.

1152
01:11:29.960 --> 01:11:35.640
<v Speaker 2>But yeah, I you know. Uh. Patreon dot com slash

1153
01:11:35.720 --> 01:11:40.319
<v Speaker 2>w nstpod five bucks a month you can subscribe to

1154
01:11:40.319 --> 01:11:43.560
<v Speaker 2>to check out more stuff that we do. You go

1155
01:11:43.640 --> 01:11:46.039
<v Speaker 2>to Welcome to the Crusades dot com to check out

1156
01:11:46.439 --> 01:11:49.960
<v Speaker 2>we did with the American Prestige on the first Crusade.

1157
01:11:50.279 --> 01:11:54.800
<v Speaker 2>It's ten bucks. Patrons. Check the the Patreon post this

1158
01:11:54.880 --> 01:11:58.560
<v Speaker 2>week for the code to get twenty percent off if

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01:11:58.560 --> 01:12:02.720
<v Speaker 2>you haven't already. And yeah, what do you got, eleanor

1160
01:12:02.760 --> 01:12:04.279
<v Speaker 2>what do you got going on? What's what's?

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01:12:04.720 --> 01:12:07.359
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that's the major things that are going on at

1162
01:12:07.359 --> 01:12:09.680
<v Speaker 1>the moment. I'm trying to think of other things that

1163
01:12:09.720 --> 01:12:13.159
<v Speaker 1>are up. I recently recorded with our friends at the

1164
01:12:13.199 --> 01:12:18.560
<v Speaker 1>Napoleonic War podcast a Napoleonic Wars. Uh, so that is

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01:12:18.600 --> 01:12:20.319
<v Speaker 1>going to be up I think later this week. So

1166
01:12:20.359 --> 01:12:25.479
<v Speaker 1>if you want to hear me talking about sexuality in

1167
01:12:25.600 --> 01:12:28.439
<v Speaker 1>the modern period aka kind of like the Napoleonic and

1168
01:12:28.520 --> 01:12:32.600
<v Speaker 1>Victorian eras. That's the place to do it. Yeah, I've

1169
01:12:32.600 --> 01:12:34.760
<v Speaker 1>got like a bunch of fucking recording this week, so

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01:12:34.760 --> 01:12:37.760
<v Speaker 1>I'll let you all know when that comes out. But yeah,

1171
01:12:38.000 --> 01:12:40.560
<v Speaker 1>your girls run off her feet, but I will let

1172
01:12:40.640 --> 01:12:43.159
<v Speaker 1>you know when it's all happening.

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01:12:44.720 --> 01:12:49.319
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, you can find me. Uh lukey is amazing

1174
01:12:49.359 --> 01:12:51.039
<v Speaker 2>on the stuff if you can farmental show. People's just

1175
01:12:51.279 --> 01:12:53.239
<v Speaker 2>the overhaul of like if you want to hear me

1176
01:12:53.279 --> 01:12:59.079
<v Speaker 2>talk about Star Wars a few years ago. But yeah, folks,

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01:12:59.600 --> 01:13:01.359
<v Speaker 2>that's gonna to do it for us today. I hope

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01:13:01.359 --> 01:13:05.399
<v Speaker 2>you enjoyed the Catharsis and uh, we'll see you next time.

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<v Speaker 1>Keep it the faith of comrades. Bye mm hmm Okay,