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Speaker 4: him in your ears, in your brains, in your hearts. Penguinology,
Speaker 4: it's a real thing, and this ologist identified on the
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Speaker 4: He's legit. Penguinology is thus legit. So he is a
Speaker 4: research fellow at Oxford University's Zoological Department. He spent well
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Speaker 4: on penguins and heads up penguin watch dot org, where
Speaker 4: you yourself can go and see wonderful penguins in remote
Speaker 4: regions on planet Earth. You can join eleven thousand volunteers
Speaker 4: who help scientists, including him count penguins just by looking
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Speaker 5: A dot on the penguins. It's so good and quick.
Speaker 4: Audio note if you hear any clickety clacking, that is
Speaker 4: just the keyboard in my shared home office with Jarrett.
Speaker 4: So just consider it like an ASMR treat. Okay, great, Okay.
Speaker 4: So we talked about what it's like working on the
Speaker 4: ends of the Earth and how cold it is, and
Speaker 4: what exactly is a penguin and how do they stay
Speaker 4: warm and mating habits and weird knees and neck facts
Speaker 4: and diets and swimming and waddling and pooh and you
Speaker 4: so sping on a tux and slung down the ice
Speaker 4: to join us for one of the most anticipated episodes
Speaker 4: of Ologies maybe ever, with penguinologist doctor Tom hartog.
Speaker 6: Algy algylogies word business.
Speaker 4: Right, you're Tom Hart. You're a penguinologist. Yes, this is
Speaker 4: so thrilling. I'm not sure if you understand how thrilling
Speaker 4: this is. You are perhaps like the best person to
Speaker 4: ask about penguins, but also you're the best person to
Speaker 4: have an ologies because you are a self titled penguinologist. Absolutely, yeah,
Speaker 4: how many times have you been to Antarctica for your work?
Speaker 7: I have any clue?
Speaker 5: Yeah, okay, so that many?
Speaker 7: Yeah, I genuinely don't know, but it's I think it's
Speaker 7: It's something like thirteen seasons worth over about fifteen years,
Speaker 7: so I've missed a couple of seasons since I started.
Speaker 4: A few of the places he commutes to for work
Speaker 4: are the Sandwich Islands and South Georgia, which are little,
Speaker 4: little dispects, no bigger than one hundred miles long way
Speaker 4: off the coast of Argentina, just above the continent of Antarctica.
Speaker 4: Now Antarctica the continent? Who even owns it? I asked
Speaker 4: Google for us. Well, it was air quotes discovered only
Speaker 4: about one hundred years ago. Doesn't really belong to anyone.
Speaker 4: It's likened to a condominium politically, with different countries having
Speaker 4: jurisdiction and putting research stations there. And there was a
Speaker 4: nineteen fifty nine Anarctic Treaty it essentially said, hey, nobody
Speaker 4: ELNs us. Okay, now parts of Antarctica, how cold can
Speaker 4: they get? Negative eighty nine degrees celsius. That's negative one
Speaker 4: hundred and twenty eight fahrenheit And it's a polar desert.
Speaker 4: It's blustery, it's cold, it's white, it's icy, it's pristine,
Speaker 4: it's gorgeous. Now, in terms of critters, you got your orcas,
Speaker 4: you got some seals, some albatross, you got some shrimpy
Speaker 4: little krill munchies in the water, and of course penguins.
Speaker 4: And now when you're talking talking about these colonies, how
Speaker 4: many penguins are we talking and what species? Tell me
Speaker 4: about these penguins as someone who's never seen a penguin
Speaker 4: outside of a.
Speaker 7: Zoom, it entirely depends on the species and where you are.
Speaker 7: So in Antarctica, on the kind of mainland continent of Antarctica,
Speaker 7: the colonies are actually often quite a lot smaller. So
Speaker 7: gent two penguins are dailies. They're often in colonies of
Speaker 7: about three five thousand, with a few exceptions. So when
Speaker 7: you get into the Ross Sea, they can be a
Speaker 7: lot bigger. They might be several hundred thousand. Emperor penguins
Speaker 7: on sea ice there are very varied, but yeah, it
Speaker 7: could be anything from a couple of thousand to again
Speaker 7: one hundred thousand, So a.
Speaker 4: Colony could be as populous as the city of Boulder, Colorado,
Speaker 4: or even Vacaville or West Covina Hi West Covina.
Speaker 7: The largest colonies on Earth are in the South Sandwich Islands,
Speaker 7: and those are well, they were we haven't finished counting
Speaker 7: them recently, but they were one point three million pairs.
Speaker 7: The movement around the colony is phenomenal. I mean it
Speaker 7: really it is a bit like a city in their
Speaker 7: respect that you've got loads of nests that are kind
Speaker 7: of really regularly spaced, So the behaviors you see are
Speaker 7: largely the kind of stoic ones, the ability to stay
Speaker 7: in one place and stay warm for a long time,
Speaker 7: and then these massive highways of movement and partner exchanges,
Speaker 7: so you see a lot of what you see minute
Speaker 7: to minute is penguins huddled over on a nest and
Speaker 7: then occasionally one relieving it and the next one going
Speaker 7: to see.
Speaker 4: And now basic questions about penguins, what exactly makes a
Speaker 4: bird of penguin?
Speaker 7: Well, common ancestry. I mean they're monophyletic, which means they
Speaker 7: evolved once and then everything else is diversified within them.
Speaker 4: Oh so it's thought that penguins diverged from the ancestors
Speaker 4: of albatrosses and petrels, seventy one million years ago. What
Speaker 4: is a petrol you're asking, it's a good question. No,
Speaker 4: it's a tube nosed, short winged seabird. And if you
Speaker 4: squint at a picture of a petrol, you can kind
Speaker 4: of see the resemblance to a penguin. It's kind of
Speaker 4: like looking at two brothers with wildly different haircuts and
Speaker 4: one of them can fly. But penguins, penguins, you are
Speaker 4: great swimmers. This is not a contest.
Speaker 7: What makes them a penguin In terms of if you're
Speaker 7: going to describe emits quite a large seabird. Seabirds tend
Speaker 7: to be larger on average than other birds. They don't
Speaker 7: have hollow bones, so they by giving up the ability
Speaker 7: to fly, they've become a lot better adapted at diving
Speaker 7: and swimming. That's also allowed their feathers to change, So
Speaker 7: those are more about hydrodynamics and insulation obviously. Yeah, there's
Speaker 7: a lot of cold adaptations, both anatomically and behaviorally as well.
Speaker 7: But one of the big things that people forget is
Speaker 7: just starvation tolerant. I mean, you think of the Emperor penguins,
Speaker 7: the male that are incubating an egg and then a
Speaker 7: chick for about three four months. That's a lot of it.
Speaker 7: So any other species they molt all at the same time.
Speaker 7: So flying birds they melt several feathers at a time
Speaker 7: so that they can still fly.
Speaker 4: So in case you miss this, we covered it in plumology.
Speaker 4: But flying birds will lose a flight feather from one
Speaker 4: side and then the other. That way they can keep balance,
Speaker 4: and some species, like parrots and pelicans, it can take
Speaker 4: them up to two years to replace all those ding
Speaker 4: dang feathers. But our penguins, penguins are your friends who
Speaker 4: cannonball into a pool instead of dipping a toe in.
Speaker 4: They are right or die all at once.
Speaker 5: Let's do this.
Speaker 7: Penguins all have this catastrophic molt where they then go
Speaker 7: to sea for a week or so, feed up as
Speaker 7: much as they can, and then they stand in one
Speaker 7: place looking grumpy, losing all of their feathers before the winter.
Speaker 4: Oh and what are some behaviors in penguins that are
Speaker 4: so different? Like, what are some of the behaviors that
Speaker 4: are so endearing about penguins or.
Speaker 5: People?
Speaker 7: I mean, do we have to call it endearing? I
Speaker 7: think we don't? They deserve our respect? Okay me? I
Speaker 7: mean one a lot of people think of is huddling
Speaker 7: in empress but that really is almost only in emperors
Speaker 7: for the breeding king penguins that look very similar but
Speaker 7: are in the sub Antarctic in places like South Georgia,
Speaker 7: they also huddle over winter, but only the chicks, so
Speaker 7: the chicks get left behind, and you see these massive
Speaker 7: aggregations of chicks huddling to keep warm. So mostly it's
Speaker 7: a thing that's found in chicks rather than rather than
Speaker 7: the adults, and it's a mixture of trying to avoid
Speaker 7: big predators pecking at you as well as to stay warm.
Speaker 4: Come on, a bunch of fuzzy ground birds in tuxedos
Speaker 4: having an icy cuddle party. Let me have this also
Speaker 4: a quick who's who of penguins?
Speaker 5: Are you ready for this?
Speaker 4: There are seventeen to twenty different species, and my understanding
Speaker 4: is that there are more than twenty penguinologists who disagree
Speaker 4: about subspecies.
Speaker 5: But either way.
Speaker 4: On the shores of Antarctica we have emperor penguins. These
Speaker 4: are the big guys three to four feet tall. They
Speaker 4: have this sheen of golden yellow on their face and chest.
Speaker 4: And then there are smaller daily penguins which have very
Speaker 4: simple curved lines that black and white. The daily penguins
Speaker 4: look like mid century modern of penguin design, very simple,
Speaker 4: so elegant. King penguins look like smaller Emperor penguins, and
Speaker 4: they're in the northern reaches of Antarctica and the Falkland Islands.
Speaker 4: And chin strap penguins they look like they're sporting a
Speaker 4: little black bike helmet. They live on the islands in
Speaker 4: the Scotia Sea. Gentoos are on the Antarctic Peninsula and
Speaker 4: the nearby islands, and they're the ones with the orange
Speaker 4: feet and the matching orange bill. Gentoos are like those
Speaker 4: ladies with nice shoes and handbags that go together. Crested
Speaker 4: penguins those are the ones with the bananas yellowish spiky
Speaker 4: things near their eyes. They have a very speak to
Speaker 4: the manager haircut. And they include rock hoppers and Macaroni penguins,
Speaker 4: named not for the pasta but for the flamboyant men's
Speaker 4: fashion style of macaronism of the seventeen hundreds, so fabulous.
Speaker 4: Now there are banded penguins which have kind of a
Speaker 4: racing stripe around their bellies. Those are in South America
Speaker 4: and South Africa. They include the jackass there are yellow
Speaker 4: eyed penguins in New Zealand and the sub Antarctic Islands.
Speaker 4: And finally, finally, little penguins. Those are on the Southern
Speaker 4: Australia Coast and New Zealand, and they have a bluish
Speaker 4: tint to their feathers and they're teeny just over a
Speaker 4: foot tall, maybe three apples high, and blue motion to
Speaker 4: call them smurf penguins whirled all right. Also, thirty seven
Speaker 4: million years ago there was a colossus penguin which stood,
Speaker 4: oh my god, six feet eight inches tall, the same
Speaker 4: height as Lebron James. So if you take nothing else
Speaker 4: from ologies as a podcast, just know that at one
Speaker 4: point on planet Earth.
Speaker 5: There were groups that look like entire.
Speaker 4: NBA basketball leagues consisting only of ginormous penguins.
Speaker 7: The movement around the colony is phenomenal. I mean it
Speaker 7: really is. It is a bit like a city in
Speaker 7: their respect that you've got loads of nests that are
Speaker 7: kind of really regularly spaced, and so there's just penguins
Speaker 7: looking quite stoic, staying in one place, and then these
Speaker 7: massive highways of movement and partner exchanges, so they can't
Speaker 7: leave the egg. So you see a lot of what
Speaker 7: you see minute to minute is penguins huddled over on
Speaker 7: a nest and then occasionally one relieving it and the
Speaker 7: next one going to see. So the behaviors you see
Speaker 7: are largely the ability to stay in one place and
Speaker 7: stay warm for a long time. And then it's really
Speaker 7: really visibly about the dedication to an egg and then
Speaker 7: a chick and how.
Speaker 5: Do they find their nests? Again, do you guys know.
Speaker 7: If it's known? I don't know it, but it's like
Speaker 7: in a crowd, do you go to where you last
Speaker 7: saw them? Then you might call?
Speaker 5: Do they have certain calls for each other?
Speaker 7: Absolutely? So they have, particularly between chicks and adults, and
Speaker 7: then between the adults. Between the partners, it's probably more tone.
Speaker 7: So I'm sure they can recognize them by voice, but
Speaker 7: a lot of it, we think is tone. So it's
Speaker 7: like you come home say to a partner, how are
Speaker 7: you dear? Or someone says how was your day? And
Speaker 7: you say, oh fine, and they say, right, what's wrong?
Speaker 4: Can I ask you questions? From listeners? But before your questions?
Speaker 4: Each week we donate two cause of the ologists choosing,
Speaker 4: and this week we did too. He had and I
Speaker 4: was like, let's do it man. So one is Terrestrial
Speaker 4: Restoration Action Society SECHELLES, which plants mangroves and helps with
Speaker 4: deforestation along coastal regions, which also helps to offset carbon
Speaker 4: footprints associated with global travel so jet centers. That's a
Speaker 4: good one, an excellent choice. Another donation is going to
Speaker 4: Penguin Watch, which helps fund doctor Hert's work alongside his
Speaker 4: collaborators around the world who research the threats to penguins
Speaker 4: and how to mitigate these threats using long term monitoring
Speaker 4: in the field and using genetic analysis of penguin feathers
Speaker 4: to get a complete picture of how populations are changing.
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Speaker 4: show notes. But now your questions. Elena Clemenkin Charles first
Speaker 4: time question asker wants to know what does a penguin
Speaker 4: feel like? What is their texture? But also if you
Speaker 4: squeeze them just a little bit, would they be squishy
Speaker 4: or really solid?
Speaker 7: They would be really solid and they would hurt you back. Okay,
Speaker 7: they're feathery, they'd feel like a strong, muscled like duck,
Speaker 7: or they wouldn't feel soft and squashly like a dog
Speaker 7: or a cap.
Speaker 4: And also their bones are not hollow, So are they
Speaker 4: denser than your typical bird?
Speaker 7: They're definitely. Yeah, They're definitely heavier than any equivalent size.
Speaker 7: And also they use their flippers as weapons, both on
Speaker 7: each other and on passing researchers, So yeah, they will.
Speaker 7: They will flip a whacky if you get too close.
Speaker 5: Have you ever been slaped by a penguin?
Speaker 7: Oh? Yeah?
Speaker 5: Does it hurt?
Speaker 7: Yeah? Okay?
Speaker 5: Are they are there flippers also feathered?
Speaker 6: Right?
Speaker 7: Yes, they're very small feathers. So those yeah, those are
Speaker 7: wings they are flying underwater. But the feathers on a
Speaker 7: flipper are very small. It's almost like a shark skin
Speaker 7: where they're trying to shed small vortices, so they don't
Speaker 7: get a lot of drack.
Speaker 4: Oh okay, okay. I looked up photos of penguin feathers
Speaker 4: and yes, on the flippers they're very little and they
Speaker 4: overlap kind of like roof tiles. And then on the
Speaker 4: body there is some serious fluff under the shiny surface,
Speaker 4: so that's good to keep out the chill. Maybe serves
Speaker 4: as padding for body to boggeting. Perhaps, Sabina KIARTI wants
Speaker 4: to know do penguins really slide on the ice as
Speaker 4: you see in Super Mario.
Speaker 7: I don't know what happens in Super Mario. I'm really sorry,
Speaker 7: but they do slide on the ice.
Speaker 5: They do? Are they having fun?
Speaker 7: Well, it's usually if they just need to get away fast,
Speaker 7: or if it's really downhill. I mean, they seem to
Speaker 7: prefer to walk unless it's really hard going because the
Speaker 7: snow is actually quite coarse and it rubs all the
Speaker 7: oil off their feathers. So when you know That means
Speaker 7: they've got a pream later and reoil them.
Speaker 4: Okay, I was like, where are they getting this oil?
Speaker 4: They probably barf it up from a krill pouch in
Speaker 4: their beautiful weird necks. So I looked it up for us,
Speaker 4: and thankfully, it's just from a grease bigot near their butt. No, biggie,
Speaker 4: it's at the base of their tail. It looks like
Speaker 4: a little fleshy knobber jobber. It's called a europigeal gland,
Speaker 4: but you know what, if you're close pals, please call
Speaker 4: it a prene gland. Michelle Lee wants to know. Can
Speaker 4: penguins drink seawater? Is that how they stay hydrated?
Speaker 7: Absolutely? Yeah, they eat snow and drink seawater, and they
Speaker 7: have a gland and just beneath their eyeball at the
Speaker 7: back of the bill, a lot like our kidneys, but
Speaker 7: actually functional for drinking seawater, so they can shed saline
Speaker 7: quite well without it dehydrating them. But they would given
Speaker 7: a choice, they'd rather drink fresh or snow because you're
Speaker 7: not having to expend energy.
Speaker 5: Of getting rid of the start.
Speaker 4: A lot of people had questions about flight and wings
Speaker 4: and flippers. They were Stephanie Bird, He's in a valerie, MICHAELA. Goings,
Speaker 4: Vanessa Fray, Courtney, Ryan Corey Navis and Ashland, who wrote
Speaker 4: do penguins have flippers?
Speaker 5: Are they technically wings?
Speaker 7: Oh?
Speaker 5: Boy, I'm so excited for this.
Speaker 4: Troy Clarkston as well as others want to know. Have
Speaker 4: penguins always been flightless birds? Or were they at one
Speaker 4: point able to fly and then they just got better
Speaker 4: and better at swimming?
Speaker 7: Yeah? Flight listeners has evolved in seabirds several times, in
Speaker 7: cormorants in the ooks, and also in penguins. So I
Speaker 7: think the nearest modern relative is something like a pelican,
Speaker 7: and the ancestral penguin was quite big and gradually, yeah,
Speaker 7: you got better at probably diving and then gave up flight.
Speaker 7: And so for a penguin to evolve, you probably have
Speaker 7: to have no predators on land, and you probably have
Speaker 7: to be quite close to your food source so that
Speaker 7: you you get better at diving, and you you know,
Speaker 7: it matters less and less that you have to either
Speaker 7: be able to fly to escape predators or that you
Speaker 7: have to be good at flying to get there, and
Speaker 7: then you probably just get better and better at diving.
Speaker 4: A lot of people, Sarah Michelle, Josh Duncan, Megan Johnson,
Speaker 4: Elena Clements and Charles Madeline, Uncle, Tailey Kawakami, Dane p
Speaker 4: All want to know what's happening with pebbles. What makes
Speaker 4: one pebble better than another? How do penguins decide on
Speaker 4: the best pebbles to give their meats?
Speaker 7: Lots is the simple answer. I mean, they tend to
Speaker 7: be of a say size, Partly I think that's what's available,
Speaker 7: but they're definitely choosing. I mean, it can't be like
Speaker 7: a stack of grain. It can't just fall down insulation. Basically,
Speaker 7: it's to keep the eggs and the chicks out of
Speaker 7: meltwater when it starts getting a bit sloppy. So they're
Speaker 7: like a raised stone doughnut, and the higher the better.
Speaker 7: I think it's not just giving them their mate, because
Speaker 7: they both do it. They both maintain the nest, but
Speaker 7: the male is usually building well. The male is building it,
Speaker 7: and then the female is usually helping. There's a lot
Speaker 7: of maintenance in between foraging trips.
Speaker 4: Ah, So they're functional. They're not just like I thought
Speaker 4: you man like this.
Speaker 7: It's a bit of both. It's good real estate. It's
Speaker 7: showing that you can provide, so that's more in the choice,
Speaker 7: and then it's maintaining something. Then it's maintaining a nest.
Speaker 4: Some people had questions about next knees. Tia Mcinness wants
Speaker 4: to know why does a penguin's neck account for so
Speaker 4: much of its body? And Madison Nobraga and Hadley literally
Speaker 4: just wrote, penguin knees, what's happening?
Speaker 7: Well, penguins do have knees, they're just tucked inside their body,
Speaker 7: so they look like a swan sat up right basically.
Speaker 4: Okay, So if you can picture a penguin like, no neck,
Speaker 4: tiny stubby legs, right, ha, that's what you think.
Speaker 5: That's what we all think.
Speaker 4: They're tucked up and almost like up near their rib cage.
Speaker 4: And then their seemingly bodybuilder lack of a neck is
Speaker 4: actually long.
Speaker 5: Boy.
Speaker 4: Their neck goes all the way down to where their
Speaker 4: flippers start.
Speaker 5: Pretty much.
Speaker 4: Do they look like a fluffy potato? Yes, but what's
Speaker 4: under there is none of our business.
Speaker 7: The next I'm not sure when the next are so
Speaker 7: long because it really is tucked inside the body. Most
Speaker 7: of the time it's used in courtship, but in the water,
Speaker 7: I mean it's tucked right in and they look a
Speaker 7: lot more like a torpedo, but they still have a
Speaker 7: lot of dexterity in their feet, in their legs, both
Speaker 7: walking and also in the water as rudders.
Speaker 4: Oh as rudders, so that's kind of how they maneuver
Speaker 4: so fast.
Speaker 7: Yeah, it's deep.
Speaker 5: Can they dive?
Speaker 7: The record is an Emperor penguin that's about just over
Speaker 7: five hundred meters. The smallest ones little penguins in Australia
Speaker 7: might be twenty to thirty meters. Most of them in
Speaker 7: Antarctica are diving where the prey is, so that's kind
Speaker 7: of often anywhere between forty and sixty meters. Emperor's half
Speaker 7: a k that's pretty bonkous.
Speaker 4: Kylie Wilkinson wants to know are they black with white
Speaker 4: feathers or white with black feathers.
Speaker 7: I'm not sure. I think developmentally they are white with
Speaker 7: black feathers, but it's amazing how many species are both
Speaker 7: black and white. So that's one of the coolest things
Speaker 7: about penguins is that, I mean, in general, everyone thinks
Speaker 7: of them as upright and they're not. That is where
Speaker 7: they come ashore to breed and if they can reading water.
Speaker 7: They would when they're in water, that's their natural element,
Speaker 7: and like cormorants, like so many seabirds, and also a
Speaker 7: lot of killer whales and things like that. This counter
Speaker 7: shading is camouflage. So if you look at them in
Speaker 7: the water from above, they're dark against a dark background,
Speaker 7: and if you look at them from underneath, they're light
Speaker 7: against the light background.
Speaker 5: Oh oh my god, I.
Speaker 7: Just see black and white animals everywhere, because that seems
Speaker 7: to be just a natural way to camouflage yourself in
Speaker 7: the ocean.
Speaker 4: I never even thought about that orcs and penguins were
Speaker 4: in the same fabulous outfit. The most common question I
Speaker 4: got by far, and it is why are they so cute?
Speaker 7: Genuinely no comment?
Speaker 5: Do you find them cute? I know you work with them,
Speaker 5: but do you know I don't find the.
Speaker 7: Respect to find them absolutely Okay, No, they're not cute.
Speaker 7: They're wonderful.
Speaker 5: Okay, I love that distinction.
Speaker 4: The last questions I always ask, what's your favorite thing
Speaker 4: about penguins or your work the year to year?
Speaker 7: Is the ability to make a difference. Then the kind
Speaker 7: of minutes to a minute the highs are I mean,
Speaker 7: we get in some cases we've been to places that
Speaker 7: no one's ever been, and a lot of them are
Speaker 7: just people where very few people have been or seen
Speaker 7: what we do. There's quite a few nutty moments where
Speaker 7: you pinch yourself and genuinely cannot believe you get to
Speaker 7: do this.
Speaker 4: Thank you so much for doing this. You're the world's
Speaker 4: most famous penguinologist, so ask smart penguins questions because they
Speaker 4: deserve our respect. They're not cute, even though they are
Speaker 4: very adorable. So to watch more penguins and follow doctor
Speaker 4: Tom Hart's work, you can check out Twitter dot com
Speaker 4: slash Penguin Underscore Watch. They're also Penguin Underscore Watch on Instagram.
Speaker 4: Penguin Watch dot org will take you to the best
Speaker 4: video game ever. You can help scientists count business geese.
Speaker 4: They're using community science to get their accounts right. And
Speaker 4: it was like animal crossing, but real animals. So there
Speaker 4: you go. You just get to look at pictures of
Speaker 4: penguins and clickity clickity click and help them count. It's
Speaker 4: the best. A link to that will be in the
Speaker 4: show notes. Also linked is more episodes. Also linked is
Speaker 4: aliwar dot com slash Asmologies, which has dozens more kids
Speaker 4: safe and shorter episodes you can blaze through and thank
Speaker 4: you Mercedes Maitland of Maitland Audio and Shared Sleeper of
Speaker 4: Mindgem Media for editing those as well as Zeke Rodriguez
Speaker 4: Thomas and says, we like to keep things small around here.
Speaker 4: The rest of the credits are in the show notes,
Speaker 4: and if you stick around until the end of the episode,
Speaker 4: I give you a piece of advice. And this week,
Speaker 4: something that saves me a lot is I always put
Speaker 4: things in the same pockets in my backpack. Earbuds they
Speaker 4: go in the front pocket, pencils, middle pocket. I carry
Speaker 4: around a bamboo spoon and fork in case I ever
Speaker 4: need it also middle pocket. That way, when you're digging
Speaker 4: around in your backpack, you say, I know exactly where
Speaker 4: that thing is because I always put it in the
Speaker 4: same pocket.
Speaker 5: That thing has saved me.
Speaker 4: So much digging, all right.
Speaker 5: I hope that helps provide much age.
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