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<v Speaker 1>The following program is produced by the Tech Talk Radio Network.

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<v Speaker 2>All Right, people, take out your notebooks and pencils and

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<v Speaker 2>trive rolls. You're listening to tech Talk Radio with true geeks.

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<v Speaker 2>And by the way, I'm beast Eider and I'm a

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<v Speaker 2>kiek too.

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to another episode of tech Talk Radio. I'm Andy Taylor,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sean to Weird, and I'm Matt Jones. And everybody

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<v Speaker 1>is a little I don't know. We just say a

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<v Speaker 1>little sleepy little.

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<v Speaker 3>You're the only one that didn't lose an hour of

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<v Speaker 3>sleep on Sunday, So you can just take that as

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<v Speaker 3>you will.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, yeah, I was gonna go with like weary and

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<v Speaker 4>mildly rage full at Andy.

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<v Speaker 1>No, just but you know what, okay for us in Arizona,

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<v Speaker 1>where we don't do any adjustment, there's somewhere else they don't.

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<v Speaker 1>Is it Indianapolis that they don't change the time or

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<v Speaker 1>something like that.

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<v Speaker 3>It's not Indiana. Indiana's still Indiana. Just their time they do.

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<v Speaker 1>There's it's Hawaii.

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<v Speaker 4>Of course it's Hawaii, because white you need to change

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<v Speaker 4>the time in Paradise.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, the crazy thing is is because working in media,

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<v Speaker 1>you know you're booking interviews. You're looking at people are

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<v Speaker 1>contacting you go, Okay, what time do you want to

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<v Speaker 1>have them? And then you have to like do the math,

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<v Speaker 1>Oh where are they? And then you get this math

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<v Speaker 1>to do, Like like I was trying to find out

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<v Speaker 1>the time for you, Sean, because you're three hours ahead now,

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<v Speaker 1>but I was trying to think, are you in that

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<v Speaker 1>there's one area where it's only two hours ahead, and

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<v Speaker 1>I was trying to figure out where it is.

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<v Speaker 3>So we are the furthest West County in Indiana that

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<v Speaker 3>is in Central Time. So I drive if I drove

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<v Speaker 3>twenty minutes, maybe thirty minutes to the west, i'd be

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<v Speaker 3>in Central Time.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, that's weird.

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<v Speaker 3>That's how close we are. If I drive north two miles,

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<v Speaker 3>I'm in Michigan. So I'm kind of in a weird

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<v Speaker 3>little trifecta. But yeah, Indiana, Indiana is a weird Like

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<v Speaker 3>most of it's Central Time, but some of it's Eastern Time,

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<v Speaker 3>and it's kind of a weird mix. But right, I

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<v Speaker 3>have coworkers that live in Central Time, right, we have

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<v Speaker 3>staff that live in Central Time and they drive, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>but you know, forty minutes to get to work. But

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<v Speaker 3>then they're also losing. It's so weird. I don't know

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<v Speaker 3>how they do that.

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<v Speaker 1>Is it better the other time of the year for you?

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<v Speaker 1>For you guys, I mean when the time adjusts because

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<v Speaker 1>you gain an hour, right, I.

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<v Speaker 3>Mean fall back, fallback, spring forward?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, is it better when you fall back?

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<v Speaker 3>Over the years, I worked overnights during most of that time,

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<v Speaker 3>so it's like you just worked an extra hour.

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<v Speaker 1>I kind of trying to remember because I worked in

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<v Speaker 1>radio in California where we'd have to do adjustments and

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<v Speaker 1>you always think. I felt like I was getting ripped

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<v Speaker 1>off an hour something.

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<v Speaker 3>The thing that really frustrates me right now is getting

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<v Speaker 3>my kids back into a routine.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, you don't think.

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<v Speaker 3>You don't think an hour makes a difference, but until

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<v Speaker 3>your kids are up at five am instead of six

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<v Speaker 3>am or vice versas. So wow, just place havoc with

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<v Speaker 3>their sleep schedules.

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<v Speaker 4>And I've got three dogs and two cats, and time

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<v Speaker 4>is a human construct. So yeah, there we spring ahead

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<v Speaker 4>and they're like, hey, Hi, have I mentioned how hungry

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<v Speaker 4>I am? And I'm like, well, you're standing on my

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<v Speaker 4>chest and the sun's not up. So I had some

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<v Speaker 4>inkling that there was something going on our cat for

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<v Speaker 4>the first time ever. Last night one of our cats

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<v Speaker 4>lose at two am, decided to stage a protest and

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<v Speaker 4>took her metal food bowl and just started chucking it

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<v Speaker 1>Nice of that cat and my.

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<v Speaker 4>Wife, God bless her. She got up, you know, got up,

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<v Speaker 4>put the ball back in, looked at the cat, was like,

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<v Speaker 4>I guess one protest wasn't enough because now she's throwing

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<v Speaker 4>it across the room. Instead of just like drop it,

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<v Speaker 4>pick it up, drop it, she's flinging it across the room.

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<v Speaker 1>The cat reactions, so now it knows yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>And I'm just like, no, the cat's training us successfully,

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<v Speaker 4>I'd like to point out, very successfully. Like this morning,

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<v Speaker 4>I got up and she's chewing on the collar that

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<v Speaker 4>we take off at night, and I'm like, no, don't

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<v Speaker 4>chew on that. And as soon as I get up,

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<v Speaker 4>she gets just like ah, gotch and dives into the

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<v Speaker 4>bathroom for food. And I'm like, I am losing this fight.

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<v Speaker 4>I am not winning against a two brain celled cat

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<v Speaker 4>and both brain cells are fighting for third place.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh boy, well, hopefully you'll be able to catch up

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<v Speaker 1>on the sleep. But I'll tell you we got some

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<v Speaker 1>great comments a couple of weeks ago when Sean you

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<v Speaker 1>were talking about the EPSOM fast photo six' adw. We've

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<v Speaker 1>given that a lot of time and I was gonna

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<v Speaker 1>post the video and I haven't done that yet. Of

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<v Speaker 1>the scans that you were doing, you actually you're still

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<v Speaker 1>working on that project, right.

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<v Speaker 3>So the backlog this is great, right, the backlog of

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<v Speaker 3>photos that I had from the project I started in

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<v Speaker 3>twenty nineteen, which was all of my grandparents' films, thirty

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<v Speaker 3>five mili slides, lose four by six whatever that's done.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh great, that's cool, right.

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<v Speaker 3>Because in the time that I got that scanner and

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<v Speaker 3>I just you know, just in just putting a couple out,

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<v Speaker 3>maybe an hour or two a day into it, I

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<v Speaker 3>blew through probably twenty eight hundred photos.

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<v Speaker 1>Nice, that's good, and got them in.

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<v Speaker 3>And organized and upgraded and uploaded to the cloud and

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<v Speaker 3>onto my sand storage.

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<v Speaker 2>Right.

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<v Speaker 3>So it's like that thing saved me so much time.

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<v Speaker 1>Well. I one of the nice comments we got was

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<v Speaker 1>from Mitch Goldstone, who we've had on the show a

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<v Speaker 1>couple of times, from scan my photos. They have a

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<v Speaker 1>business that does that and he appreciated the fact that, yes,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, we're mentioning you could do this yourself. You

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<v Speaker 1>have the opportunity, and of course we did mention that

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<v Speaker 1>you could also go to a service like like Mitch offers,

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<v Speaker 1>but he appreciated the fact that you're talking about the

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<v Speaker 1>importance of preserving members. We've seen what happened in Hawaii,

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<v Speaker 1>We've seen what happened in Los Angeles and Pasadena with floods.

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<v Speaker 1>Now that people are concerned with some of these images

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<v Speaker 1>could be lost forever where there's no maybe no negatives

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<v Speaker 1>in a disaster, and you don't want that to happen.

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<v Speaker 1>So we appreciated the aspect of you saving these images

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<v Speaker 1>for your family. You actually have gone another step where

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<v Speaker 1>and somebody listening may think, well, I've got a scanner,

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<v Speaker 1>I've already scanned all my photos. You've got those eight

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<v Speaker 1>millimeters or super eight millimeter reels of film. Have you

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<v Speaker 1>taken the steps to get those done? And again, Mitchell's

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<v Speaker 1>company could do that, but you actually let me know

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<v Speaker 1>that there is a way you could do this yourselves

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<v Speaker 1>as well.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, we've talked about this on the show before because

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<v Speaker 3>this was part of that project I started back at

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<v Speaker 3>twent nineteen. Well, my mom, my aunt, my uncle pitched

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<v Speaker 3>in a couple hundred bucks to get me a step

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<v Speaker 3>by step film scanner right eight milimeter super eight millimeter

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<v Speaker 3>film scanners called a Wolverine data film to digital movie

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<v Speaker 3>maker pro. Okay, you can buy them on you can

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<v Speaker 3>buy an Amazon, B and H Photo, etc. They make

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<v Speaker 3>a couple cheaper versions. I would avoid getting the cheaper

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<v Speaker 3>ones if you if you're looking to do this, I

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<v Speaker 3>would get I would spend the four hundred dollars to

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<v Speaker 3>get it. The next I will recommend that this is

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<v Speaker 3>the lowest tier you're going to get at a consumer level,

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<v Speaker 3>because the next step starts adding commos to the price.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh wow, so.

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<v Speaker 3>Right, so you start getting into a little bit more

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<v Speaker 3>of the bottom end of the professional level. So this

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<v Speaker 3>is kind of the happy medium, and it's relatively easy

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<v Speaker 3>to set up, but there's a lot of prep work involved. Right,

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<v Speaker 3>So I scanned I got I don't even know. I

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<v Speaker 3>scanned so many films from my grant, from my grandfather,

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<v Speaker 3>my mom's side of my maternal grandparents.

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<v Speaker 1>What years are you talking about?

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<v Speaker 3>Oh, so late forties, so forty nine to wow, eighties? Right,

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<v Speaker 3>So I mean there was. There was stuff ranging from

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<v Speaker 3>when my when my grandfather serving the navy in the

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<v Speaker 3>late forties into the fifties. You know, film of my

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<v Speaker 3>mom's first birthday. You know, so in the the early fifties.

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<v Speaker 1>Now, these would all be silent. They wouldn't be because

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<v Speaker 1>you didn't have Yeah, yeah, you know, there's.

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<v Speaker 3>No there's no audio recordings that went along with these. No,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, they didn't do the total like, yeah, it's

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<v Speaker 3>all silent. So but it it What I like about

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<v Speaker 3>it is and you came across a lot of in

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<v Speaker 3>my research on trying to find a scanner. You came

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<v Speaker 3>around a clock. You came across a lot that would

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<v Speaker 3>just pull the slides through and just kind of videotape

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<v Speaker 3>them as they went through.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, This actually steps.

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<v Speaker 3>Has a stepper motor in it that steps through every

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<v Speaker 3>single frame has it catches this brocket advances it one

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<v Speaker 3>frame takes it takes an image, advances it takes an

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<v Speaker 3>image all the way through until you stop it. So

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<v Speaker 3>what that allows us to do is then it compiles

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<v Speaker 3>it at twenty four frames per second, which is film

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<v Speaker 3>speed to play back for the human eye, and it

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<v Speaker 3>generates an MP four file for you right off, right

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<v Speaker 3>off the machine. So I can then take that and

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<v Speaker 3>put it right into a you know, a final cut

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<v Speaker 3>Pro Premiere, Da Vinci, Resolve, etcetera, etcetera.

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<v Speaker 1>So you could put graphics in there than with some

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<v Speaker 1>of these programs.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, at that point, you're it's up to how

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<v Speaker 3>creative you want to get. But it's a very time

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<v Speaker 3>consuming process, right, And that's something I always try to

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<v Speaker 3>remind people about this process. This is a very time

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<v Speaker 3>consuming process. Not a lot of people are going to

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<v Speaker 3>sit through and do this, and that's what I'm taking

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<v Speaker 3>out of this is I'm spending time with my family's history,

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<v Speaker 3>seeing these come to life with the videos, the pictures,

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<v Speaker 3>touching them, holding onto them, remembering, oh, yeah, that was

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<v Speaker 3>me when I was six. I'm a goober, right, It's

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<v Speaker 3>like I'm missing fourteenth and all this whole thing. So

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<v Speaker 3>it's just a cool process. So this past week I

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<v Speaker 3>got in touch with my uncle who gave me my

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<v Speaker 3>paternal grandparents' films.

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<v Speaker 1>Wow.

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<v Speaker 3>So I'm now in the process of scanning even more

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<v Speaker 3>film and I just scanned in this this this morning

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<v Speaker 3>a four inch reel of film. So you know, imagine

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<v Speaker 3>a four inch reel that it ended up being about

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<v Speaker 3>fourteen minutes of foot edge.

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<v Speaker 1>Wow, I remember you remember you would take the I

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<v Speaker 1>had a Super eight camera and I would take the

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<v Speaker 3>Well yeah, so this reel is definitely multiple smaller reels

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<v Speaker 3>They had a he has the original spicer that they

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<v Speaker 3>alcohol and a film cleaner. Right, so I'm spinning it through,

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<v Speaker 3>I would go, why is this the crummy that I

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<v Speaker 3>take the film out? It's got crumbs and it's got

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<v Speaker 3>so I've been I cleaned the scanner every time before.

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<v Speaker 3>It's just it's a pain, but it's totally worth it.

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<v Speaker 3>It's just time consuming.

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<v Speaker 1>Now with this Wolverine data film to digital movie maker

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<v Speaker 1>play the movie. Well, watch it on the wall or

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, this is just pulling the film through shooting light

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<v Speaker 1>Some of the quality look looks pretty good. I know,

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<v Speaker 4>It was really clear. Like I was looking at it,

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<v Speaker 4>like what Coming of Age film? Am I about to

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<v Speaker 4>start watching? Like I feel like I should be hearing

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<v Speaker 4>you know, Corey Matthews coming over the voiceover, like it

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<v Speaker 4>was the summer of nineteen eighty four.

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<v Speaker 1>Yep, I know when when Sean was telling us this

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<v Speaker 1>was taking in nineteen eighty one, I felt very old

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<v Speaker 1>because that's when I was graduating from high school, or

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<v Speaker 1>nineteen eighty even I was, I wasn't even born. Oh man,

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<v Speaker 1>you guys, this is great though. It's a great way

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<v Speaker 1>to preserve that technology. Now they don't rent the projector.

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<v Speaker 1>You don't have to buy this from like what B

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<v Speaker 3>is my go to for pretty much anything we buy professionally.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, especially one of the story of one of the

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<v Speaker 1>big stories from today. Yeah, definitely.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, So it's just you know, and B and H Photo.

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<v Speaker 3>They're great, but yeah, it's it's it's kind of a

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<v Speaker 3>set and forget right, all right, there's some tweak that

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<v Speaker 3>I've made, and I've actually had to go in and

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<v Speaker 3>repair the unit myself. So I had some issues with it.

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<v Speaker 3>And if somebody wants my how to step by step

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<v Speaker 3>guide on how I do it, it's not how you

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<v Speaker 3>do it in the guide, it's it's it's the the

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<v Speaker 3>real to real part of it. Right. It's got an

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<v Speaker 3>arm with the you can put the reel on and

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<v Speaker 3>then it's supposed to spin onto the other reel. Right,

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<v Speaker 3>so it's supposed to pull the keep tension. That's a

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<v Speaker 3>that's a load of crap. That system doesn't work. It's

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<v Speaker 3>it's it's it's two motors. Well, so it's it's a

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<v Speaker 3>free spinning on on on the feed side, and it's

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<v Speaker 3>a it's pulling on the on the on the receive side.

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<v Speaker 3>That motor is not strong enough. So as soon as

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<v Speaker 3>you get more than two feet of film and it

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<v Speaker 3>starts getting tight, it starts to skip, it starts to

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<v Speaker 3>it starts to spin, and it starts to the motor starts,

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<v Speaker 3>it starts lagging. So what I do is I said,

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<v Speaker 3>it's literally sitting right at the edge of the table.

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<v Speaker 3>So I've got the feed real and I have it

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<v Speaker 3>coming through and I loop it through the guides and

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<v Speaker 3>I just let it dump off the edge of the table.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, there you go.

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<v Speaker 3>So it the weight, the weight of the gravity holding

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<v Speaker 3>in the carriage.

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<v Speaker 1>If you have a cat, don't let your cat be

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<v Speaker 1>linger you're around, because you will kill the.

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<v Speaker 3>Cat would be all over that. But it looks it.

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<v Speaker 3>I'll send a picture. It's a big nest of film,

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<v Speaker 3>Like I mean, this is I don't know how much,

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<v Speaker 3>fourteen minutes of film.

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<v Speaker 1>It's it's yeah, it's a lot of film feet.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it's it's a long it's a long fifty film.

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<v Speaker 1>I think fifty feet, if I remember correctly, was on

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<v Speaker 1>the small reels, and that's where you got three and

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<v Speaker 1>a half minutes. So that kind of tells you a

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, it's it's a lot of film, and like

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<v Speaker 3>he said, I've been cleaning them. So I've been a lot,

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<v Speaker 3>a lot of spooling, a lot of spooling.

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<v Speaker 1>You know what I have on now? I might it

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<v Speaker 1>might be sixteen millimeter, and I don't know if they

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<v Speaker 1>make if Wolverine makes a sixteen millimeter film, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>to digital. But I have the original trailer for Star

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<v Speaker 1>Wars before it ever hit theaters, before anybody knew. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I on sixteen millimeter and it has a different soundtrack.

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<v Speaker 1>The visual effects aren't put in yet where they're firing

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<v Speaker 1>the blasters and the lasers. I mean, it was pretty good.

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<v Speaker 1>I bought it a science fiction convention back in probably

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<v Speaker 1>nineteen seventy seven, seventy eight. I got a script for

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<v Speaker 1>Star Wars, you know, where it had It had bigs

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<v Speaker 1>and the different characters that maybe weren't didn't make it

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<v Speaker 1>fully into the big film. But either way, that sixty

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<v Speaker 1>milimeter trailer I still have, and the narration of the

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<v Speaker 1>music was ter It wasn't even the music that you know,

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<v Speaker 1>John Williams music. It was some classical score. But I

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<v Speaker 1>would love to find a way to get that also transferred,

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<v Speaker 1>so that you know, I would say, okay, I have it.

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<v Speaker 1>It's probably out there on YouTube anyways, but still it

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<v Speaker 1>would be cool to see.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, one of my favorite project was the four K remasters, right,

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<v Speaker 3>if you any of you have gone through the process

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<v Speaker 3>of trying to find those and download them, they're incredible.

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<v Speaker 3>By the way, it's a hot topic, so I'm not

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<v Speaker 3>going to discuss how to find those or where to

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<v Speaker 3>get them. Is this Star Wars. It's the original trilogy.

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<v Speaker 3>It's called Project Night whatever year they will mean nineteen

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<v Speaker 3>eighty three four K or whatever. And there somebody got

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<v Speaker 3>a hold of a thirty original thirty five you know whatever,

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<v Speaker 3>the thirty five millimeters original print and remastered it in

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<v Speaker 3>four K, and it's incredible to see the difference, right

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<v Speaker 3>because it's all pre special editions, it's all the original

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<v Speaker 3>film release.

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<v Speaker 1>Right.

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<v Speaker 3>So if you're a huge Star Wars nut, you can

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<v Speaker 3>just google it. You'll find it. Go down the rabbit

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<v Speaker 3>hole if you want Project four.

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<v Speaker 4>K, Project four K seventy seven.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, cool. I'm gonna look for that one. Yeah. I

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<v Speaker 1>used to love collecting movie trains. I had that one

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<v Speaker 1>at the car. Do you remember the one with James

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<v Speaker 1>Brolin in the car was like a crazy looking car

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<v Speaker 1>at the trailer for that.

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<v Speaker 3>A few decades behind us, you got you gotta you

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<v Speaker 3>gotta bring it a few decades forward.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh boy, Yeah, Young Frankenstein. You ever hear that one?

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<v Speaker 1>I get that one.

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<v Speaker 3>That's a great.

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<v Speaker 4>Lindsey hey.

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<v Speaker 1>Actually you know with the passing, with the passing, uh

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<v Speaker 1>not that long ago. Have gene hackmen too. You have

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<v Speaker 1>to think about that scene in Young Frankenstein with him

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<v Speaker 1>and Peter Boyle as Frankenstein and he plays a blad

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<v Speaker 1>man right to light his cigar, poor coffee and just

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<v Speaker 1>completely terrorizing poor Frankenstein.

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<v Speaker 2>Where are you gonna go?

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<v Speaker 4>I was gonna make espresso?

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<v Speaker 2>I remember.

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<v Speaker 3>Frankenstein is such a great movie.

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<v Speaker 4>It's it is such a classic. It really anything Melo

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<v Speaker 4>Brooks has done is just timeless. Slee Bulletproof and I

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<v Speaker 4>saw there was a there's an interview where they were like,

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<v Speaker 4>what movie did you make that you could never remake today?

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<v Speaker 4>And they barely got the question up before it was

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<v Speaker 4>like Blazing Saddles. Yep, absolutely, Like there's no way I

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<v Speaker 4>could remake that today a chance.

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<v Speaker 1>I was really jazzed many many met years ago when

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<v Speaker 1>we were doing the show. And I don't know if

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<v Speaker 1>this happens in Palm Springs or it was in Tucson

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<v Speaker 1>when we first got her, But Burton Gilliam, who was

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<v Speaker 1>in Blazing Saddles, did the voice work of a character

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<v Speaker 1>in a game called Redneck Rampage and got him on

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<v Speaker 1>the show to talk about being a voice in a

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<v Speaker 1>very popular video game. When we got a chance to

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<v Speaker 1>touch on Blazing Saddles and all that, he was just

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<v Speaker 1>just one of those crazy characters. But yeah, that was

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of fun.

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<v Speaker 3>You got any dimes?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah? More beans, mister Taggert, sa you have had enough,

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<v Speaker 1>all right. Speaking of filmmaking, I had a filmmaker over

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<v Speaker 1>the other day to the house, one of the producers

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<v Speaker 1>of a documentary called Ugly Little Monkeys, and it's a

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<v Speaker 1>true story and it's it's a sadly it's a true story.

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<v Speaker 1>But we were talking about filmmaking and editing over the years,

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<v Speaker 1>and he told me about using this program called Da

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<v Speaker 1>Vinci Resolve. And while him and I both came from

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<v Speaker 1>that same He used Final Cut for a long time,

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<v Speaker 1>got to a certain point in Final Cut and he said,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not using this anymore. And I said, I kind

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<v Speaker 1>of went through the same thing. Then I used Vegas

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<v Speaker 1>for a little while from Sony. Then I used you know,

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<v Speaker 1>Adobe Premiere Pro.

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<v Speaker 3>I like doing that.

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<v Speaker 1>He said he liked using Premiere Pro, but he found

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<v Speaker 1>that with the new version of Premiere Pro, he's just

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<v Speaker 1>not happy with it. And said, DaVinci Resolved is a

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<v Speaker 1>completely fantastic program. And I told him I've never really

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<v Speaker 1>used it. I think I have a cop. I think

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<v Speaker 1>I have a copy when I got my A ten Mini,

428
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<v Speaker 1>But I'm not sure. What do you think about this, Sean?

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<v Speaker 1>Have you had any thoughts about DaVinci Resolve.

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<v Speaker 3>If if you are a editor, you're already using.

431
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<v Speaker 1>It, Okay, you're using three three.

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<v Speaker 3>There's three softwares you're using that you should know how

433
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<v Speaker 3>to use as a professional video editor. Final Cup Pro,

434
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<v Speaker 3>Adobe Premiere and da Vinci Resolve. That those are the

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<v Speaker 3>top three, right, There's some other ones in there that

436
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<v Speaker 3>you know, they work just as good, but there they

437
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<v Speaker 3>cost money. It's it's the whole thing. One of the

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<v Speaker 3>things don't you go ahead?

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<v Speaker 1>Well, one other things about Premiere Pro. It can be

440
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<v Speaker 1>pretty pricey.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, it's a sass. Now, yeah, software is a service,

442
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<v Speaker 3>like that's the way Adobe went right. So you're you're

443
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<v Speaker 3>stuck with the constant updates. You know, if you have

444
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<v Speaker 3>auto updates on now you're screwed because your project is

445
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<v Speaker 3>twenty twenty four and now you're project twenty twenty five.

446
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<v Speaker 3>The whole thing. We're dealing with that at work because

447
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<v Speaker 3>we're an Adobe house at DA Vinci. Resolve has been

448
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<v Speaker 3>a huge disruptor in the non linear editing world.

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<v Speaker 2>Right.

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<v Speaker 3>You had, if you go back a decade even maybe

451
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<v Speaker 3>a little bit more, you had Final Cut seven, Final

452
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<v Speaker 3>cust Studio, you had Avid Move, you had Avid, you

453
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<v Speaker 3>had Adobe, and you had light Works, a couple other

454
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<v Speaker 3>Sony Vegas, ediis a couple other other other ones in there.

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<v Speaker 3>And then when Final Cut ten came out, a lot

456
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<v Speaker 3>of people abandoned ship because there was such a such

457
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<v Speaker 3>a Draassic shift, a lot of people fled and they

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<v Speaker 3>went to the PC market. So Adobe pushed out a

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<v Speaker 3>MAC version of Premiere because Adobe used to only be

460
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<v Speaker 3>PC version. I think back even up until like twenty

461
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<v Speaker 3>two thousand and eight, two thousand and nine, I'd have

462
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<v Speaker 3>to go back in the history of that. But then

463
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<v Speaker 3>you had Black Magic Design said, well, we've got our

464
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<v Speaker 3>coloring suite called Da Vinci Resolve. Well let's now let's

465
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<v Speaker 3>make it into a it's kind of a nonlinear editor.

466
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<v Speaker 3>And then they kind of tweaked it and made it

467
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<v Speaker 3>into a nonlinear editor and it competes. Yeah, it's it's

468
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<v Speaker 3>right up there. It's free. That's the biggest one.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, if you want the full the full suite apparently

470
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<v Speaker 1>that right, but it's still it's still less expensive than

471
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<v Speaker 1>the others.

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<v Speaker 3>So the free version, it's it has an extensive list

473
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<v Speaker 3>of features, right, but it includes their advanced coloring correction.

474
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<v Speaker 3>That's probably the biggest part of it.

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<v Speaker 2>Right.

476
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<v Speaker 3>A lot of people would take their films out of

477
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<v Speaker 3>premiere or out of final cut export the xmls, bring

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<v Speaker 3>them into Resolve just to color correct them and color

479
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<v Speaker 3>grade them and then put them back in for finishing.

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<v Speaker 3>There is a studio version of Resolve. It adds a

481
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<v Speaker 3>handful of features, advanced noise reduction, higher resolutions and stuff.

482
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<v Speaker 3>I don't know what the resolution limit is, but it's

483
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<v Speaker 3>probably like two ksion. But yeah, it's it's by far

484
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<v Speaker 3>probably the best color grading built in caligrading you can

485
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<v Speaker 3>you can do with uh professional software.

486
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<v Speaker 2>Now.

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<v Speaker 1>To get a copy of this, uh it would be

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<v Speaker 1>a matter of going to black Magic Design and they're

489
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<v Speaker 1>the people who put this one out, and then you

490
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<v Speaker 1>would be able to download the software and and see,

491
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<v Speaker 1>you know, maybe learn how to edit.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean that's yeah, and I mean a lot of

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<v Speaker 3>people caught onto this because black Magic as a whole.

494
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<v Speaker 3>You can you can kind of live in a black

495
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<v Speaker 3>Magic ecosystem, right if you're shooting on their their black

496
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<v Speaker 3>Magic ursas, their studio cameras, et cetera, et cetera, they can.

497
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<v Speaker 3>They now have their own raw format, black Magic Raw,

498
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<v Speaker 3>which is native into results into uh DA Vincial Resolved.

499
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<v Speaker 3>So just working in their raw format and their software

500
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<v Speaker 3>just makes things a lot a lot easier. But I've

501
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<v Speaker 3>used it. I'm not by any means of professional on it,

502
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<v Speaker 3>but I know what it can and can't do. But no,

503
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<v Speaker 3>for if you're a few want a free, great software

504
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<v Speaker 3>to edit movies on, this is this is it. Now.

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<v Speaker 3>It's not gonna run on your rinky dank laptop with

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<v Speaker 3>eight gigs RAM and a you know, an I three, yeah,

507
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<v Speaker 3>two duo or something. Right, it's gonna you need something

508
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<v Speaker 3>a little substantial with a dedicated GPU, probably sixteen gigs

509
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<v Speaker 3>of more RAM, a current ish gen processor maybe five

510
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<v Speaker 3>or six years old, you'd be fine.

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<v Speaker 1>But and SSD or M two. Oh yeah, yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>If you're not, If you're running spinny drives, good luck.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm not evenna talk to you. You're still running seventy

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<v Speaker 3>two hundred rpm drives at this point, you're go back

515
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<v Speaker 3>to the final cut studio like five and six.

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<v Speaker 1>I've tried editing with those before. All right, listen, we

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<v Speaker 1>got to take quick break. We come back. We have

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<v Speaker 1>listener questions other stuff that's been announced as well that

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<v Speaker 1>we'll tell you about with more. You could also drop

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<v Speaker 1>us a question anytime. Tech guys at tech talk radio

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<v Speaker 1>dot com. I'm Andy Taylor, I'm sure to weird.

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<v Speaker 4>And I'm Matt Jones.

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<v Speaker 1>We'll be right back and now back to tech talk Radio.

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<v Speaker 4>I know, like kind of at the end of that

525
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<v Speaker 4>we were touching a little bit on hard drives for

526
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<v Speaker 4>some things. And there's a great listener question kind of

527
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<v Speaker 4>in that vein from Albert from Tucson a few weeks ago.

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<v Speaker 4>I was listening to the program and you were talking

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<v Speaker 4>about how the different operating systems have changed. One of

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<v Speaker 4>the things I very much changed, Albert, You are correct.

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<v Speaker 4>One of the things I remember doing often on the

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<v Speaker 4>old computer was running something called defragment. I don't see

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<v Speaker 4>that anymore and wondered if it's still something people do.

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<v Speaker 4>Thank Christ, no we don't, So let me give you a.

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<v Speaker 1>Can you explain what defragment was for people who know

536
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<v Speaker 1>they've heard the term.

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<v Speaker 4>So back on the old spinny drives, you basically was

538
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<v Speaker 4>that you had a little spindle on it going back

539
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<v Speaker 4>and forth on these platters reading the bits of data

540
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<v Speaker 4>that we're in there. And over time, as you would

541
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<v Speaker 4>write stuff, delete stuff, move stuff, those little bits of

542
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<v Speaker 4>data star being on different locations in the platter, they

543
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<v Speaker 4>get spread out and it would increase your your load times,

544
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<v Speaker 4>your transfer times, because it'd have to go find each

545
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<v Speaker 4>one of those individual little spots the data was fragmented.

546
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<v Speaker 4>Defragmenting was the unholy long process. And back when the

547
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<v Speaker 4>first time I defragmented, you would put a disc in

548
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<v Speaker 4>and boot to it so it would defragment and it

549
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<v Speaker 4>would find every one of the and Sean just put

550
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<v Speaker 4>it up on his on his screen and I'm having flashbacks,

551
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<v Speaker 4>not good ones, And it would find all those little

552
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<v Speaker 4>sectors and basically kind of like clump everything back to

553
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<v Speaker 4>where it was supposed to be, and it would make

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<v Speaker 4>your computer run better, it would make it healthier. But

555
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<v Speaker 4>it could take you. It could take you hours, it

556
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<v Speaker 4>could take you days, depending on how much data you had.

557
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<v Speaker 4>And there was nothing worse than being a kid being like,

558
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<v Speaker 4>I'm going to go home and play a computer game.

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<v Speaker 4>It's defragmenting. Well, definitely not doing that today.

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<v Speaker 1>And that was one of the things. You couldn't walk

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<v Speaker 1>away from it. You just have to stare at it

562
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<v Speaker 1>and just look at it and watch.

563
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<v Speaker 4>It and fuel your soul slowly crush.

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<v Speaker 3>So I had somebody explain it in the most simplest

565
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<v Speaker 3>terms to me one time. What exactly defragging does, right? Okay,

566
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<v Speaker 3>imagine you took collected all of your mail from the

567
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<v Speaker 3>last year, that's it in the original envelopes, and then

568
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<v Speaker 3>you decided to open all those envelopes and throw everything

569
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<v Speaker 3>across the room. Yeah, okay, now all your mails spread out.

570
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<v Speaker 3>Now go through the process of putting all that mail

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<v Speaker 3>back where it belongs.

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<v Speaker 1>Right now, what I asked that that made the most

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<v Speaker 1>sense to me.

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<v Speaker 4>As painful as that sounds, defragging was equally as painful.

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<v Speaker 3>Correct, here's one.

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<v Speaker 1>Now what I taught. I taught a night class of

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<v Speaker 1>computer technology to uh, you know, people would come to

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<v Speaker 1>the adult school and I would teach them all about tech.

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<v Speaker 1>And that's when defragmenting was the thing. But I kind

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<v Speaker 1>of compared it to having a drawer full of socks.

581
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<v Speaker 1>But the h socks is each sock is different. You

582
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<v Speaker 1>have a pair and then you split them up, but

583
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<v Speaker 1>every thing is different. You don't have two white socks,

584
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<v Speaker 1>your two red socks, three blue socks. They're all different.

585
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<v Speaker 1>You have to try and put them together. And that's

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<v Speaker 1>basically what it was doing. The problem is that in

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<v Speaker 1>Albert's question, you know, defragment what happened to it is?

588
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<v Speaker 1>Is it something that's not done anymore?

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<v Speaker 4>It is not done anymore. So defragmenting went away with

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<v Speaker 4>spinny drives. There was a there's a very short the well,

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<v Speaker 4>not as short as I would have liked, but there

592
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<v Speaker 4>was a small overlap period where people would defragment a

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<v Speaker 4>solid state drive an SSD and defragging an SSD will

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<v Speaker 4>drastically decrease the lifespan of it. What is done with

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<v Speaker 4>these new solid state drives, the m DOT two n

596
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<v Speaker 4>v ME drives is called trimming and your computer, Thank

597
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<v Speaker 4>god Automa does it now.

598
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<v Speaker 3>It is built.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm pretty sure it was since I want to say

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<v Speaker 4>it was either Windows seven or Windows eight point one.

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<v Speaker 4>They basically built it in that it is just an

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<v Speaker 4>automated task that the computer runs by itself. You don't

603
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<v Speaker 4>have to go in and kick it off and do it.

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<v Speaker 4>And it trims and basically says like, hey, these are here,

605
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<v Speaker 4>these are here, these are here. And because the difference

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<v Speaker 4>being in a spinny drive, it had to make that

607
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<v Speaker 4>change of moving that little piece of magnetic resonance and

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<v Speaker 4>right to another physical location on the spinny drive. There

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<v Speaker 4>are no real true physical locations in a solid state drive.

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<v Speaker 4>It's just permanently stored electric memory.

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<v Speaker 1>Now, when you have a problem too on a big file,

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<v Speaker 1>somebody had told me if you have big files, because

613
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<v Speaker 1>let's face it, we're working with bigger files. Now you

614
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<v Speaker 1>got more storage. Bigger files, video files, audio files, photo

615
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<v Speaker 1>files that are raw. If it moves something, you could

616
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<v Speaker 1>actually break the file.

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<v Speaker 4>It can yeah, it could break and corrupt the file.

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<v Speaker 4>So there there actually were some risks to defragmenting, but

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<v Speaker 4>it was one of those darned if you do, darned

620
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<v Speaker 4>if you don't. You had to do it, and I

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<v Speaker 4>remember vividly I had finally this was such It was

622
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<v Speaker 4>like one of the first first person shooter games I

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<v Speaker 4>ever played. It was NERF Arena Blast and it was

624
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<v Speaker 4>basically like a reskinned unreal tournament for kids, like no

625
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<v Speaker 4>blood NERF guns. But I remember like I gotten so

626
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<v Speaker 4>far and I'd finally beat this one stage that like

627
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<v Speaker 4>I had been struggling with, and we defragged the computer

628
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<v Speaker 4>and my save file was corrupted.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh man, Yeah, have you ran a lot of zips

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<v Speaker 1>or our archived folders that also would happen to them too,

631
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<v Speaker 1>They could be and those could be corrupted easier than others,

632
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<v Speaker 1>and some people it's still never been able to get

633
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<v Speaker 1>into these files that they may have stored a lot

634
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<v Speaker 1>of stuff in and then deleted the originals and then

635
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<v Speaker 1>that's that's gone.

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<v Speaker 4>I deleted the originals, all right, Then I defragmented my

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<v Speaker 4>hard drive. You can stop there. I know how this

638
00:32:13.960 --> 00:32:14.720
<v Speaker 4>tragedy ends.

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<v Speaker 1>Just now, when it comes to disc utilities though at

640
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<v Speaker 1>the time that was probably a very useful disc utility.

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<v Speaker 1>I know Sean recently took a look at the new

642
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<v Speaker 1>Windows eleven utility program. Uh, did you get a chance

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<v Speaker 1>to run that and look more into it.

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00:32:33.799 --> 00:32:36.359
<v Speaker 3>No, I've had no need, so yeah, I looked at it,

645
00:32:36.599 --> 00:32:38.440
<v Speaker 3>said well, if I needed, I'll use it.

646
00:32:38.640 --> 00:32:42.319
<v Speaker 1>But I never was like dis tools or something like that.

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<v Speaker 4>So so I actually have the native one built into

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<v Speaker 4>Windows eleven open right now. If you go in and

649
00:32:49.759 --> 00:32:55.000
<v Speaker 4>tight like disc or defrag, it will pull up defragment

650
00:32:55.200 --> 00:32:58.720
<v Speaker 4>and optimize drives. Because there are some poor souls out

651
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<v Speaker 4>there still running spin so we still have to have

652
00:33:03.160 --> 00:33:06.680
<v Speaker 4>the and I don't mean that economically, I feel for

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00:33:06.799 --> 00:33:11.000
<v Speaker 4>your souls. Yeah, but it still has a built in

654
00:33:11.079 --> 00:33:14.240
<v Speaker 4>defrag utility. But if you have solid states, it is

655
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<v Speaker 4>the optimized drives. And you'll look at the current status

656
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<v Speaker 4>and like I'm looking at my Sea drive and it says, okay,

657
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<v Speaker 4>one day since last retrim, I have rebooted. I've not

658
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<v Speaker 4>rebooted my computer since like a little bit over a

659
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<v Speaker 4>day ago.

660
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<v Speaker 3>So it did it.

661
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<v Speaker 4>On the reboot, it trimmed the drives. Now I can

662
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<v Speaker 4>always go in there and be like, hey, I could

663
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<v Speaker 4>click right now and be like optimize, But the scheduled

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<v Speaker 4>optimization drives are being analyzed on a scheduled cadence and

665
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<v Speaker 4>optimized as needed frequency weekly and you kind of want

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<v Speaker 4>to leave that as is, in my opinion, you don't

667
00:33:51.440 --> 00:33:53.920
<v Speaker 4>want to get over zealous with that, Like a week

668
00:33:54.039 --> 00:33:56.519
<v Speaker 4>is fine, And if you're moving a ton of files

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<v Speaker 4>and everything around, just just go in there and take

670
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<v Speaker 4>a lot. Look. You can click the analyze button be

671
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<v Speaker 4>like do I have a problem? Do I need to

672
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<v Speaker 4>retrim it right now? But don't run a d frag

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<v Speaker 4>on an SSD. You will chop a large chunk of

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<v Speaker 4>a life span off.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, all right, that's a that's good advice. So

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<v Speaker 1>basically telling Albert, don't worry about.

677
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<v Speaker 4>It, don't if you don't have a spinny drive, don't

678
00:34:25.119 --> 00:34:28.159
<v Speaker 4>worry about it. Those days are gone. They can't hurt

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00:34:28.239 --> 00:34:31.199
<v Speaker 4>you anymore. We're okay, they.

680
00:34:31.119 --> 00:34:34.599
<v Speaker 1>Won't hurt you anymore, because all right, here's one from Roger.

681
00:34:34.679 --> 00:34:36.079
<v Speaker 1>I thought this is a pretty good one, and this

682
00:34:36.119 --> 00:34:38.599
<v Speaker 1>could be a good one for Sean to help with

683
00:34:38.840 --> 00:34:41.880
<v Speaker 1>as well. Is there a huge learning curve to switching

684
00:34:41.920 --> 00:34:45.559
<v Speaker 1>to the Apple platform Windows eleven seems like it won't

685
00:34:45.599 --> 00:34:47.960
<v Speaker 1>work on my computer. That's a lot of people finding

686
00:34:48.000 --> 00:34:50.320
<v Speaker 1>that one out and thought maybe now would be the

687
00:34:50.440 --> 00:34:54.679
<v Speaker 1>time to switch. What are some considerations from Roger and Slita?

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<v Speaker 3>This is this is a loaded question, right, because I've

689
00:34:58.920 --> 00:35:02.800
<v Speaker 3>been such a duel user for so long, I don't

690
00:35:02.920 --> 00:35:05.519
<v Speaker 3>know what it would be like to jump in. Yeah, first,

691
00:35:06.960 --> 00:35:09.719
<v Speaker 3>I mean I don't. I would love to tell them

692
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<v Speaker 3>there's no learning curve, but I've been using mac oes

693
00:35:13.239 --> 00:35:17.199
<v Speaker 3>since I don't know, for a long time. So it's

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<v Speaker 3>it is a different UI. It is a different system, right.

695
00:35:20.400 --> 00:35:23.639
<v Speaker 3>It is fundamentally different in terms of how you access

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<v Speaker 3>your files, where things live, how you open programs, how

697
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<v Speaker 3>you download programs, how you install programs, how you function

698
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<v Speaker 3>with the Internet is different, unless you like from the

699
00:35:34.760 --> 00:35:36.639
<v Speaker 3>get go right. So you can download Chrome and it

700
00:35:36.679 --> 00:35:38.559
<v Speaker 3>can you can have your experience being the safe. But

701
00:35:38.679 --> 00:35:41.079
<v Speaker 3>if you're not familiar, if you don't know what Safari is,

702
00:35:42.840 --> 00:35:44.639
<v Speaker 3>you might be up the creek a little bit, right,

703
00:35:45.239 --> 00:35:47.559
<v Speaker 3>if you've never heard of Safari before, it might be

704
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<v Speaker 3>a little intimidating. It's not you know, the South African

705
00:35:51.519 --> 00:35:54.159
<v Speaker 3>trip to see the animals, right, It's the web browser

706
00:35:54.239 --> 00:35:59.199
<v Speaker 3>that mac comes with, so it's there. If you are

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<v Speaker 3>an iPhone user or an iPad user, you will have

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<v Speaker 3>an easier go at getting accustomed or tuned to macOS.

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<v Speaker 1>But if you've never used those before.

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<v Speaker 3>But if you've never used it before, it's you're going

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00:36:16.199 --> 00:36:17.719
<v Speaker 3>to have a learning curve and you are going to

712
00:36:17.760 --> 00:36:21.039
<v Speaker 3>get frustrated. And one thing that I've learned about the

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<v Speaker 3>world that it is right now, people do not have

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<v Speaker 3>patience for technology.

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<v Speaker 5>No.

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<v Speaker 3>So you know when when Caitlin's parents went to go

717
00:36:31.199 --> 00:36:34.719
<v Speaker 3>get their new laptop, right they straight up told me

718
00:36:35.320 --> 00:36:38.360
<v Speaker 3>no mac Os or not doing it, because I would

719
00:36:38.360 --> 00:36:40.199
<v Speaker 3>have tried to push them onto like like an M

720
00:36:40.280 --> 00:36:43.400
<v Speaker 3>two Macair, something a little bit more streamlined, because then

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<v Speaker 3>for the price of what you're paying for a decent laptop,

722
00:36:46.159 --> 00:36:48.880
<v Speaker 3>you could potentially get two macwak errors and then they

723
00:36:48.920 --> 00:36:51.199
<v Speaker 3>could have each of their own. But they weren't interested

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<v Speaker 3>in doing macOS at all because they're Android users. They've

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<v Speaker 3>never used mac os. He my my father in law,

726
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<v Speaker 3>said straight up, I don't I don't want to learn

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<v Speaker 3>a new operating system.

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<v Speaker 1>Well with so somebody's thinking about this and they're saying, well,

729
00:37:05.199 --> 00:37:09.039
<v Speaker 1>my Windows eleven computer is or Windows ten is not

730
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<v Speaker 1>going to be able to update the Windows eleven or

731
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<v Speaker 1>maybe they're still on seven or or something else. Maybe

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<v Speaker 1>they shouldn't invest in a full on mac book or

733
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<v Speaker 1>you know, the big Mac system. Maybe get a Mac,

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<v Speaker 1>the basic Mac and just to learn it if they

735
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<v Speaker 1>want to experience that, or is there any way for

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<v Speaker 1>them to really so kind of go through that.

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<v Speaker 4>So there there there actually is.

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<v Speaker 2>And this is.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm sorry to jumping on this one, but I I

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<v Speaker 4>actually used to be a Mac genius working at an

741
00:37:41.559 --> 00:37:44.199
<v Speaker 4>Apple store in Virginia, right, And one of the things

742
00:37:44.239 --> 00:37:47.159
<v Speaker 4>that has kind of fallen by the wayside, at least

743
00:37:47.199 --> 00:37:49.039
<v Speaker 4>the last time I was in there of telling people

744
00:37:49.639 --> 00:37:51.920
<v Speaker 4>when they would go into that store, into an Apple

745
00:37:52.000 --> 00:37:54.519
<v Speaker 4>store to buy a Mac. One of the questions we

746
00:37:54.639 --> 00:37:56.199
<v Speaker 4>used to ask was, Hey, is this going to be

747
00:37:56.239 --> 00:37:59.639
<v Speaker 4>your first Apple device or is this your first Mac computer?

748
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<v Speaker 4>And if they were like, yes, it is. Apple stores

749
00:38:03.960 --> 00:38:08.960
<v Speaker 4>offer free classes. You just have to go to the store.

750
00:38:09.639 --> 00:38:12.360
<v Speaker 4>Like each store has their own little website. You know,

751
00:38:12.440 --> 00:38:14.519
<v Speaker 4>you'll go to Apple dot com, you know, go through

752
00:38:14.639 --> 00:38:17.920
<v Speaker 4>find your store. Like for me, probably the closest would

753
00:38:17.960 --> 00:38:21.599
<v Speaker 4>be like down at Cherry Creek Mall or something, but I,

754
00:38:21.760 --> 00:38:23.079
<v Speaker 4>you know, I want to look and see if this

755
00:38:23.239 --> 00:38:24.599
<v Speaker 4>was still something they offered, and it is.

756
00:38:25.000 --> 00:38:25.039
<v Speaker 2>So.

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00:38:25.159 --> 00:38:30.000
<v Speaker 4>They actually have a Getting Started Mac class that runs

758
00:38:30.039 --> 00:38:33.079
<v Speaker 4>for an hour and its description is learn the essentials

759
00:38:33.159 --> 00:38:34.880
<v Speaker 4>to get the most out of your Mac. We'll start

760
00:38:34.920 --> 00:38:37.400
<v Speaker 4>with settings and show you how to navigate everyday futures

761
00:38:37.440 --> 00:38:40.039
<v Speaker 4>with ease. Then you'll explore how to customize your Mac

762
00:38:40.119 --> 00:38:42.000
<v Speaker 4>so you can work and create the way you want.

763
00:38:42.320 --> 00:38:44.960
<v Speaker 4>We'll even share our favorite shortcuts for staying organized and

764
00:38:45.079 --> 00:38:49.199
<v Speaker 4>fun ways to search with Siri, and then for accessibility

765
00:38:49.599 --> 00:38:53.719
<v Speaker 4>for sessions with amplified sound hearing loop technology is available

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00:38:53.800 --> 00:38:58.239
<v Speaker 4>on request. Each store offers these. I think they've kind

767
00:38:58.280 --> 00:39:01.000
<v Speaker 4>of reorganized the job titles, but it used to be,

768
00:39:01.519 --> 00:39:04.159
<v Speaker 4>you know, Mac genius, you were the person behind the

769
00:39:04.199 --> 00:39:10.320
<v Speaker 4>genius bar repairing and doing technical support. Creatives were equivalent

770
00:39:10.440 --> 00:39:13.760
<v Speaker 4>in technical capability, but theirs was all the software side.

771
00:39:13.800 --> 00:39:18.039
<v Speaker 4>They had specialized people in Final Cut, in Garage Band,

772
00:39:18.159 --> 00:39:20.360
<v Speaker 4>in all those programs, and you could register for a

773
00:39:20.400 --> 00:39:24.199
<v Speaker 4>class and they could walk you through you know, beginner, intermediate, Advance,

774
00:39:24.679 --> 00:39:27.000
<v Speaker 4>and then you also had the specialists, which were you know,

775
00:39:27.159 --> 00:39:31.199
<v Speaker 4>your general salesfolk. But you can come in you registers

776
00:39:31.239 --> 00:39:34.159
<v Speaker 4>for the class. You bring your device, You'll sit down

777
00:39:34.320 --> 00:39:37.079
<v Speaker 4>and they will have a big old screen there walking

778
00:39:37.119 --> 00:39:39.079
<v Speaker 4>you through everything so you can do it on yours.

779
00:39:39.400 --> 00:39:42.440
<v Speaker 4>You can ask questions, go through it. It is the

780
00:39:42.599 --> 00:39:48.159
<v Speaker 4>most underrated but beneficial feature that Apple stores offer because

781
00:39:48.199 --> 00:39:50.760
<v Speaker 4>these classes aren't just for Mac. They have getting started

782
00:39:50.840 --> 00:39:56.440
<v Speaker 4>with Apple Watch, iPad, iPhone. They really want you, like,

783
00:39:56.599 --> 00:39:59.800
<v Speaker 4>if you're going to spend that amount of money, they

784
00:40:00.000 --> 00:40:02.039
<v Speaker 4>I don't want you to hate it. So if you're

785
00:40:02.320 --> 00:40:06.480
<v Speaker 4>looking to cut over to the new OS, usually if

786
00:40:06.559 --> 00:40:08.719
<v Speaker 4>you take if you take that class, it helps a lot.

787
00:40:09.440 --> 00:40:12.440
<v Speaker 4>We've also had huge strides and like YouTube and shows

788
00:40:12.519 --> 00:40:14.960
<v Speaker 4>that and you know on demand things that can help

789
00:40:15.000 --> 00:40:17.800
<v Speaker 4>you there. But in general, what I saw at my

790
00:40:17.880 --> 00:40:20.840
<v Speaker 4>time at the store for people cutting over was it

791
00:40:21.000 --> 00:40:25.280
<v Speaker 4>took about two weeks to get comfortable with the basics

792
00:40:25.400 --> 00:40:28.760
<v Speaker 4>on your own, to kind of get that second nature

793
00:40:28.880 --> 00:40:32.880
<v Speaker 4>feel down. And Sean's entirely right. It is an entirely

794
00:40:33.199 --> 00:40:37.639
<v Speaker 4>different operating system. At its core, the way it handles

795
00:40:38.159 --> 00:40:43.039
<v Speaker 4>programs is vastly different than the way Windows handles programs.

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00:40:43.519 --> 00:40:47.960
<v Speaker 4>To go a little technical, Mac is built off of Unix,

797
00:40:48.360 --> 00:40:53.920
<v Speaker 4>and Unix treats everything like a file. Apps are a file,

798
00:40:54.159 --> 00:40:57.239
<v Speaker 4>a printer is a file, a hard drive is referenced

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<v Speaker 4>as a file. Everything is technically a file.

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<v Speaker 1>Wow, all right.

801
00:41:02.039 --> 00:41:05.400
<v Speaker 4>Windows decide to be like, we're gonna make this a device,

802
00:41:05.519 --> 00:41:07.199
<v Speaker 4>We're gonna make this a folder. We're gonna make that,

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00:41:07.280 --> 00:41:09.079
<v Speaker 4>We're gonna make this easier. And at the end of

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00:41:09.119 --> 00:41:11.239
<v Speaker 4>the day we're like, you didn't make anything easier.

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00:41:11.320 --> 00:41:14.159
<v Speaker 1>You just made everything worse. Well, our nearest Apple story

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00:41:14.239 --> 00:41:16.880
<v Speaker 1>is long cantata for those here. Also, I want to

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00:41:16.920 --> 00:41:20.920
<v Speaker 1>recommend there are Apple groups you may find. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>you have an Apple user group in your community. I

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00:41:24.440 --> 00:41:28.400
<v Speaker 1>know that Green Valley Recreation we're in Green Valley. They

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<v Speaker 1>may have an Apple Users group. They're very helpful. And

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<v Speaker 1>if you go in there and you see, I'm new,

812
00:41:33.639 --> 00:41:35.280
<v Speaker 1>I just want to check it out. They'll let you

813
00:41:35.360 --> 00:41:37.079
<v Speaker 1>come to a meeting you just want to, you know,

814
00:41:37.159 --> 00:41:39.119
<v Speaker 1>look them up online and be able to get the

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00:41:39.199 --> 00:41:41.400
<v Speaker 1>information on that. So that's also true.

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<v Speaker 4>The most understated resource for this that I especially in

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00:41:46.039 --> 00:41:48.719
<v Speaker 4>today's day and age, you need your support as well.

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00:41:49.320 --> 00:41:51.199
<v Speaker 4>Your local library.

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<v Speaker 1>There you go perfect.

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00:41:52.559 --> 00:41:55.199
<v Speaker 4>If you go to your local library and you ask,

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<v Speaker 4>there might be somebody who's free who will sit and

822
00:41:58.199 --> 00:42:00.480
<v Speaker 4>help you with it, or they might have a class

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00:42:00.639 --> 00:42:02.880
<v Speaker 4>that you can go and participate for free with your

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00:42:03.000 --> 00:42:07.280
<v Speaker 4>free library card. Libraries are vastly underrated for the services

825
00:42:07.320 --> 00:42:09.960
<v Speaker 4>that they offer, and I know two of the ones

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<v Speaker 4>near me do offer beginner to intermediate tech classes. Not

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<v Speaker 4>just like Grandma needs to learn her computer, but like, hey,

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<v Speaker 4>we'll teach you some of the basics of it. So

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<v Speaker 4>you can see if that's something you like for any

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<v Speaker 4>age group. So also check out your local library and

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<v Speaker 4>see if they offer something.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, we're going to take another break. We come

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<v Speaker 1>back the Gaming Hall of Fame. The Museum of Gaming

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<v Speaker 1>has put together its list of the inductees for the

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<v Speaker 1>Best Games Ever. They'll be three I guess they'll be inducted.

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<v Speaker 1>We'll go over to the list and find out which

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<v Speaker 1>ones you think should be in the Hall of Fame.

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<v Speaker 1>Coming up with tech Talk Radio. I'm Ady Taylor, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>Sean to Wear It, and I'm Matt Jones.

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<v Speaker 4>Feel free to find us on Facebook at facebook dot

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<v Speaker 4>com slash tech Talkers will be right back.

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<v Speaker 3>Now back to tech talk Radio.

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<v Speaker 5>My parents just got a computer. Let me tell you

844
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<v Speaker 5>want to lead a stress free life, you don't allow

845
00:43:02.400 --> 00:43:04.920
<v Speaker 5>your parents to have anything made after nineteen seventy two.

846
00:43:06.480 --> 00:43:09.159
<v Speaker 5>Every time I'm home, it's another computer problem. Yeah, it

847
00:43:09.280 --> 00:43:12.360
<v Speaker 5>just locked up when I was playing Tetris. It's not Tetris,

848
00:43:12.440 --> 00:43:12.679
<v Speaker 5>that's a.

849
00:43:12.679 --> 00:43:19.880
<v Speaker 3>The fragmentor the year is nineteen ninety eight. You've got

850
00:43:20.000 --> 00:43:24.039
<v Speaker 3>four friends, a cardboard box cut in two, so you

851
00:43:24.280 --> 00:43:27.599
<v Speaker 3>quad the TV right and you're playing Slappers only.

852
00:43:27.960 --> 00:43:32.239
<v Speaker 4>GoldenEye No is odd job? Are are we not allowing

853
00:43:32.280 --> 00:43:34.320
<v Speaker 4>odd job? Because that's an odd job?

854
00:43:34.440 --> 00:43:35.599
<v Speaker 3>Because his head's too small?

855
00:43:37.760 --> 00:43:40.360
<v Speaker 4>It was the cheat and you started with four friends,

856
00:43:40.480 --> 00:43:42.239
<v Speaker 4>you might not have ended being friends.

857
00:43:43.920 --> 00:43:44.119
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

858
00:43:44.119 --> 00:43:45.920
<v Speaker 3>I brought that up because in the break we were

859
00:43:45.960 --> 00:43:50.719
<v Speaker 3>talking about the museum and the National Museum of Plays inductees,

860
00:43:51.199 --> 00:43:55.760
<v Speaker 3>the nominees for Hall of Fame Video Games.

861
00:43:56.079 --> 00:43:58.119
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, they do this every year. They put up like

862
00:43:58.440 --> 00:43:59.960
<v Speaker 1>and they come up with three out of a lit

863
00:44:00.559 --> 00:44:02.320
<v Speaker 1>of a bunch of games to see which one should

864
00:44:02.320 --> 00:44:04.280
<v Speaker 1>be in the Hall of Fame. And I don't know

865
00:44:04.320 --> 00:44:05.880
<v Speaker 1>if this list is kind of a little wacky.

866
00:44:07.960 --> 00:44:10.679
<v Speaker 3>It's kind of all over the place, right gold What

867
00:44:10.800 --> 00:44:14.159
<v Speaker 3>I was talking about was the Nintendo sixty four GoldenEye

868
00:44:14.400 --> 00:44:19.199
<v Speaker 3>Double seven, by far, one of the best multiplayer games

869
00:44:19.239 --> 00:44:21.199
<v Speaker 3>you could ever play in the history of multiplayer game?

870
00:44:21.280 --> 00:44:23.440
<v Speaker 1>Did that ever come out ported to anything else?

871
00:44:23.760 --> 00:44:24.760
<v Speaker 3>Oh, it's on the switch.

872
00:44:25.159 --> 00:44:27.239
<v Speaker 4>Oh it's on the Xbox.

873
00:44:27.960 --> 00:44:30.119
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it came a ported to the Xbox. It's on

874
00:44:30.199 --> 00:44:35.039
<v Speaker 3>the switch. If you have Nintendo Online, go to their website,

875
00:44:35.119 --> 00:44:38.719
<v Speaker 3>buy the wireless sixty four controllers, get four friends, get

876
00:44:38.760 --> 00:44:42.760
<v Speaker 3>three friends plus yourself, and play the ever living crap

877
00:44:42.800 --> 00:44:43.320
<v Speaker 3>out of that game.

878
00:44:44.000 --> 00:44:46.079
<v Speaker 1>Is it Pierres President?

879
00:44:46.199 --> 00:44:46.320
<v Speaker 5>Right?

880
00:44:46.639 --> 00:44:47.960
<v Speaker 1>Is that the James Bond?

881
00:44:48.079 --> 00:44:48.239
<v Speaker 2>Yeah?

882
00:44:48.440 --> 00:44:50.960
<v Speaker 4>That was his first one. And do you know the

883
00:44:51.079 --> 00:44:54.280
<v Speaker 4>craziest thing about goldene which was for the long time

884
00:44:54.360 --> 00:44:56.239
<v Speaker 4>the gold standard of shooters.

885
00:44:57.559 --> 00:44:58.079
<v Speaker 2>The the.

886
00:44:59.719 --> 00:45:03.559
<v Speaker 4>Game developers who made GoldenEye had never made a video

887
00:45:03.639 --> 00:45:07.159
<v Speaker 4>game beforehand. And the reason and the reason why they like,

888
00:45:07.320 --> 00:45:10.960
<v Speaker 4>there's so many like video games from movies that are

889
00:45:11.079 --> 00:45:14.039
<v Speaker 4>just hot, steaming garbage, and this was such a gem

890
00:45:14.679 --> 00:45:16.960
<v Speaker 4>because they looked at the movie and they were like, Okay,

891
00:45:17.599 --> 00:45:19.800
<v Speaker 4>we cannot screw this up, so we are gonna go

892
00:45:19.960 --> 00:45:23.679
<v Speaker 4>scene by scene and make that level by level. So

893
00:45:23.800 --> 00:45:27.559
<v Speaker 4>they basically just like pourted the movie into a game,

894
00:45:27.880 --> 00:45:31.920
<v Speaker 4>and it was for a for a first outing home run,

895
00:45:32.320 --> 00:45:36.480
<v Speaker 4>brand slam cleared the basis and there was.

896
00:45:37.559 --> 00:45:40.119
<v Speaker 3>It was rumored that they weren't even going to include

897
00:45:40.119 --> 00:45:43.679
<v Speaker 3>the multiplayer on the original. Oh yes, they added that

898
00:45:43.840 --> 00:45:46.800
<v Speaker 3>in last minute as like a well, let's just do

899
00:45:46.880 --> 00:45:49.320
<v Speaker 3>it and see what happens. And it's it's by far

900
00:45:49.440 --> 00:45:51.719
<v Speaker 3>one of the most incredible multiplayer games ever play.

901
00:45:52.039 --> 00:45:53.920
<v Speaker 1>So you believe this one should be a member of

902
00:45:54.039 --> 00:45:55.559
<v Speaker 1>the video name Now.

903
00:45:55.840 --> 00:45:57.880
<v Speaker 3>Now I'm gonna quickly just go through the list. Right,

904
00:45:58.039 --> 00:46:02.159
<v Speaker 3>Age Vampires, Solid Game, Angry Birds. Anybody who's played Anger

905
00:46:02.159 --> 00:46:05.199
<v Speaker 3>Birds is had fun with that. Call Duty for Modern Warfare,

906
00:46:05.360 --> 00:46:10.239
<v Speaker 3>Solid game, Atari Defender never played it, but it sounds good. Frogger.

907
00:46:10.400 --> 00:46:13.400
<v Speaker 3>Everybody knows the the leap frogging game, Get Hit by Traffic,

908
00:46:14.159 --> 00:46:18.079
<v Speaker 3>Old nye, the Golden tea handheld now.

909
00:46:18.079 --> 00:46:20.519
<v Speaker 1>That played it? That was a golf game, right is

910
00:46:20.559 --> 00:46:21.159
<v Speaker 1>a golf game?

911
00:46:21.239 --> 00:46:24.320
<v Speaker 3>I mean, who hasn't played at least people my age

912
00:46:24.519 --> 00:46:26.280
<v Speaker 3>or Andy's age right in the bar?

913
00:46:27.000 --> 00:46:28.719
<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, yep, right.

914
00:46:28.800 --> 00:46:30.840
<v Speaker 3>Spending six bucks on four holes of game.

915
00:46:30.880 --> 00:46:33.519
<v Speaker 1>I remember the Arcade one. There was a big round

916
00:46:33.599 --> 00:46:36.880
<v Speaker 1>ball and you'd have to hit it really fast to

917
00:46:37.239 --> 00:46:40.440
<v Speaker 1>you know, take your golf shot. And yeah, never.

918
00:46:40.920 --> 00:46:44.119
<v Speaker 3>Harvest Moon, which this one, based on the picture, looks

919
00:46:44.159 --> 00:46:47.159
<v Speaker 3>like the Superintendo version instead of the sixty four version.

920
00:46:48.159 --> 00:46:50.960
<v Speaker 3>The sixty four version is one of the games I

921
00:46:51.119 --> 00:46:53.360
<v Speaker 3>can clearly remember being the first game I ever fell

922
00:46:53.360 --> 00:46:59.360
<v Speaker 3>asleep playing mattel Football Handheld, which I believe Matt said

923
00:46:59.360 --> 00:47:00.440
<v Speaker 3>in the Breaking add one.

924
00:47:00.400 --> 00:47:03.920
<v Speaker 4>Of these I did, Oh my god, that that handheld

925
00:47:04.119 --> 00:47:06.199
<v Speaker 4>was vastly older than I was.

926
00:47:06.639 --> 00:47:08.880
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, but that was nineteen seventy seven that came out.

927
00:47:09.159 --> 00:47:10.440
<v Speaker 1>I remember that, yep.

928
00:47:11.280 --> 00:47:13.679
<v Speaker 3>Yeah. Then you get into the NBA two K series,

929
00:47:13.719 --> 00:47:15.639
<v Speaker 3>which I'm not a basketball fan, but I've been told

930
00:47:15.719 --> 00:47:19.679
<v Speaker 3>that the NBA two K series is just awesome. Another

931
00:47:19.760 --> 00:47:23.639
<v Speaker 3>one of my favorite multiplayer games Quake, oh yeah, which

932
00:47:23.760 --> 00:47:25.880
<v Speaker 3>is just I feel like that's kind of this was

933
00:47:25.920 --> 00:47:30.239
<v Speaker 3>a standard for multiplayer for computer players back in the day.

934
00:47:30.559 --> 00:47:32.760
<v Speaker 1>Was that ID software that put that one out?

935
00:47:32.880 --> 00:47:33.079
<v Speaker 3>Yeah?

936
00:47:33.239 --> 00:47:38.519
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, Quake put out ID and Quake and Unreal Tournament

937
00:47:38.639 --> 00:47:42.880
<v Speaker 4>were some of the first games that actually basically gave

938
00:47:43.000 --> 00:47:46.480
<v Speaker 4>birth to what we now consider the Electronic Sports League.

939
00:47:46.519 --> 00:47:49.159
<v Speaker 4>Oh yeah, they were some of the first, like actual

940
00:47:49.599 --> 00:47:54.800
<v Speaker 4>had competitions, get money, had tournaments, professional players like that

941
00:47:55.039 --> 00:47:56.559
<v Speaker 4>one really changed the game.

942
00:47:56.639 --> 00:47:58.559
<v Speaker 3>And then the last one on the list. I grew

943
00:47:58.639 --> 00:48:01.440
<v Speaker 3>up when these came out. I had one. I probably

944
00:48:01.480 --> 00:48:04.159
<v Speaker 3>still have it somewhere in my house. Tamagotchi's it was

945
00:48:04.239 --> 00:48:05.800
<v Speaker 3>the little pet you had to keep alive. You had

946
00:48:05.840 --> 00:48:07.679
<v Speaker 3>and feed it and stuff, and if you had it

947
00:48:07.719 --> 00:48:09.199
<v Speaker 3>at school and they got caught with it, they would

948
00:48:09.199 --> 00:48:10.599
<v Speaker 3>take it away from you and they would give it

949
00:48:10.639 --> 00:48:11.960
<v Speaker 3>back to you the next day and your pet would

950
00:48:11.960 --> 00:48:15.639
<v Speaker 3>be dead. You'd feel sad. Yeah, So I don't know

951
00:48:15.760 --> 00:48:16.159
<v Speaker 3>that from.

952
00:48:16.239 --> 00:48:20.840
<v Speaker 4>Because the Big Three it was Tamagotchi's Nano Pets and

953
00:48:21.079 --> 00:48:24.199
<v Speaker 4>Digimon Digitmon. Yeah, though those were the big thory and

954
00:48:24.280 --> 00:48:26.880
<v Speaker 4>Digimon was different from them all because you could click

955
00:48:26.920 --> 00:48:30.199
<v Speaker 4>them together and make them fight. Oh and a couple

956
00:48:30.239 --> 00:48:32.800
<v Speaker 4>of years back they actually re released those and Lee

957
00:48:32.880 --> 00:48:34.559
<v Speaker 4>and I were at Game Stop and saw them and

958
00:48:34.760 --> 00:48:37.440
<v Speaker 4>just like looked at each other and had one of

959
00:48:37.519 --> 00:48:41.280
<v Speaker 4>those immediate silent conversations of like, are are we doing

960
00:48:41.360 --> 00:48:44.079
<v Speaker 4>this all? We're doing this and we still have our

961
00:48:44.239 --> 00:48:45.599
<v Speaker 4>new Digimon.

962
00:48:45.800 --> 00:48:51.039
<v Speaker 1>Well, only three can be inducted, definitely, GoldenEye, Double seven.

963
00:48:51.119 --> 00:48:53.400
<v Speaker 1>What else I think Quake should be part of that?

964
00:48:53.559 --> 00:48:54.920
<v Speaker 3>I don't know. You got to look at it not

965
00:48:55.079 --> 00:48:57.440
<v Speaker 3>just from like, okay, I enjoyed these games, but from

966
00:48:57.679 --> 00:49:02.639
<v Speaker 3>like a culture phenomenon. Right, Tomagachi's took over everything. Everybody

967
00:49:02.760 --> 00:49:05.320
<v Speaker 3>had one that it's like they feel like Tomagachi.

968
00:49:04.800 --> 00:49:05.159
<v Speaker 2>Will go in.

969
00:49:05.360 --> 00:49:07.800
<v Speaker 3>And then Angry Birds just because it was like one

970
00:49:07.840 --> 00:49:10.320
<v Speaker 3>of the first mobile games that really took off.

971
00:49:10.599 --> 00:49:11.760
<v Speaker 1>Everybody played those.

972
00:49:11.679 --> 00:49:14.400
<v Speaker 3>Well, it spawned a whole franchise. Everybody played it a movie.

973
00:49:14.599 --> 00:49:20.159
<v Speaker 3>So I think it'll be Angry Birds, Tamagotchi, and probably GoldenEye.

974
00:49:20.719 --> 00:49:23.239
<v Speaker 4>I'm gonna have to form the dissenting opinion, all right.

975
00:49:23.639 --> 00:49:29.400
<v Speaker 4>Age of Empires changed what a real time strategy game

976
00:49:29.880 --> 00:49:30.239
<v Speaker 4>could be.

977
00:49:30.639 --> 00:49:30.880
<v Speaker 1>True.

978
00:49:32.599 --> 00:49:35.320
<v Speaker 4>They came out in ninety seven and it's the main

979
00:49:35.440 --> 00:49:38.679
<v Speaker 4>competitor at that time. Tage of Empires was the Command

980
00:49:38.760 --> 00:49:41.960
<v Speaker 4>and Conquer series and COMM I went back recently and

981
00:49:42.079 --> 00:49:46.119
<v Speaker 4>replayed C and C remastered. It's all situational, like, Okay,

982
00:49:46.159 --> 00:49:48.199
<v Speaker 4>you've got build a couple of guys, you know, go

983
00:49:48.360 --> 00:49:50.920
<v Speaker 4>do this, hopefully they survive. Go take on the force

984
00:49:50.960 --> 00:49:52.800
<v Speaker 4>as a NOD because it was the it was the

985
00:49:52.840 --> 00:49:56.039
<v Speaker 4>Brotherhood of NOD and the GDI, the Global Defense Initiative.

986
00:49:56.039 --> 00:49:59.079
<v Speaker 4>I remember that Age of Empires one maybe not might

987
00:49:59.159 --> 00:50:04.079
<v Speaker 4>not make it. Empires two has been the gold standard,

988
00:50:04.239 --> 00:50:07.480
<v Speaker 4>the platinum level of what a real time strategy game

989
00:50:08.079 --> 00:50:10.599
<v Speaker 4>could be the next one. I think Call of Duty

990
00:50:10.719 --> 00:50:14.360
<v Speaker 4>for Modern Warfare. I remember queuing up outside of my

991
00:50:14.480 --> 00:50:17.280
<v Speaker 4>game stop back when we did midnight releases and you

992
00:50:17.320 --> 00:50:19.920
<v Speaker 4>can just have it automatically downloaded to your Xbox to

993
00:50:20.000 --> 00:50:22.960
<v Speaker 4>get that and that game it came out when I

994
00:50:23.079 --> 00:50:27.199
<v Speaker 4>was in college, and it took over every single dorm

995
00:50:27.599 --> 00:50:29.920
<v Speaker 4>that I could conceivably go into.

996
00:50:29.960 --> 00:50:31.519
<v Speaker 1>It certainly did not disappoint.

997
00:50:31.719 --> 00:50:36.400
<v Speaker 4>It changed first person shooters. The Call of Duty control

998
00:50:36.519 --> 00:50:40.079
<v Speaker 4>mapping is now what every single shooter game that comes

999
00:50:40.159 --> 00:50:46.000
<v Speaker 4>out uses. True that control mapping is now the golden default.

1000
00:50:46.519 --> 00:50:48.880
<v Speaker 4>And Modern Warfare four because that was the first one

1001
00:50:48.880 --> 00:50:50.960
<v Speaker 4>where they brought it to the modern age. Previously to that,

1002
00:50:51.039 --> 00:50:53.119
<v Speaker 4>it was all World War Two and that was the

1003
00:50:53.159 --> 00:50:55.159
<v Speaker 4>first time where it's like you don't need health packs,

1004
00:50:55.159 --> 00:50:56.679
<v Speaker 4>you just need to get to cover for a minute

1005
00:50:57.119 --> 00:51:01.159
<v Speaker 4>and spawn. Now one of the greatest shooter framesranchises in

1006
00:51:01.280 --> 00:51:06.519
<v Speaker 4>the history of games, yep. And then you know, honestly,

1007
00:51:08.159 --> 00:51:11.800
<v Speaker 4>I'm gonna say, I'm gonna revise it. I'm gonna say

1008
00:51:11.960 --> 00:51:17.679
<v Speaker 4>Modern Warfare, Golden Eye and probably Froger.

1009
00:51:18.280 --> 00:51:22.320
<v Speaker 1>Froger, Oh, Froger, do you remember the Seinfeld episode where George.

1010
00:51:23.000 --> 00:51:25.599
<v Speaker 1>George had to replicate the Frogger game.

1011
00:51:25.960 --> 00:51:26.960
<v Speaker 3>Babe, do you remember that?

1012
00:51:27.559 --> 00:51:27.719
<v Speaker 2>Yes?

1013
00:51:29.000 --> 00:51:32.400
<v Speaker 4>And he's like uh uh, and then they did the

1014
00:51:32.519 --> 00:51:37.239
<v Speaker 4>aerial view of it. Yes, But I mean, Froger was

1015
00:51:37.480 --> 00:51:40.360
<v Speaker 4>it was a cultural revolution and there were so many

1016
00:51:40.440 --> 00:51:43.039
<v Speaker 4>different versions of it. I remember playing it on the

1017
00:51:43.119 --> 00:51:46.599
<v Speaker 4>Atari and like that one like you got hit by

1018
00:51:46.679 --> 00:51:49.159
<v Speaker 4>the car and it wasn't just a frog splat. It

1019
00:51:49.280 --> 00:51:51.639
<v Speaker 4>was a frog splat. A little ambulance pulled up and

1020
00:51:51.760 --> 00:51:53.639
<v Speaker 4>loaded the Frogger into it and drove away.

1021
00:51:53.880 --> 00:51:54.280
<v Speaker 3>That's right.

1022
00:51:54.400 --> 00:51:55.679
<v Speaker 4>It was like, I don't know what you're gonna do

1023
00:51:55.800 --> 00:51:58.119
<v Speaker 4>for this frog. He's gone from three D to two D.

1024
00:51:58.400 --> 00:52:02.360
<v Speaker 1>But all right, listen, we gotta take another quick break.

1025
00:52:02.719 --> 00:52:04.760
<v Speaker 1>But those are the ones. You could see the list

1026
00:52:04.880 --> 00:52:08.239
<v Speaker 1>yourself by going to Museum of play dot org.

1027
00:52:08.679 --> 00:52:09.239
<v Speaker 3>Scroll down.

1028
00:52:09.320 --> 00:52:11.519
<v Speaker 1>You'll see the inductees and you'll see the past ones

1029
00:52:11.559 --> 00:52:13.800
<v Speaker 1>as well. I am hoping that Doom is in there,

1030
00:52:14.199 --> 00:52:16.639
<v Speaker 1>because if you got Quake in their Doom has to

1031
00:52:16.719 --> 00:52:18.880
<v Speaker 1>be in there. That was great.

1032
00:52:18.960 --> 00:52:21.840
<v Speaker 3>You might be earlier. I'm going back to the list.

1033
00:52:21.840 --> 00:52:22.639
<v Speaker 3>I think Doom's in there.

1034
00:52:22.800 --> 00:52:24.800
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's gotta be all right. We'll be back with

1035
00:52:24.880 --> 00:52:28.280
<v Speaker 1>more of tech Talk Radio. I'm Andy Taylor, I'm Seanda Weird.

1036
00:52:28.519 --> 00:52:30.960
<v Speaker 4>And I'm Matt Jones. Feel free to shoot us a

1037
00:52:31.000 --> 00:52:33.559
<v Speaker 4>message on x at tech Talk Radio.

1038
00:52:34.079 --> 00:52:37.199
<v Speaker 1>We'll be right back and now back to tech talk Radio.

1039
00:52:37.320 --> 00:52:40.000
<v Speaker 2>Hey, this is Dietrich Bader Batman and you're listening to

1040
00:52:40.079 --> 00:52:40.920
<v Speaker 2>TIK Talk Radio.

1041
00:52:42.760 --> 00:52:46.159
<v Speaker 4>We were just talking about inductees for the Video Game

1042
00:52:46.199 --> 00:52:48.880
<v Speaker 4>Hall of Fame. I have to ask you, guys, and

1043
00:52:49.000 --> 00:52:51.239
<v Speaker 4>I will give mine first, if you want, what is

1044
00:52:51.320 --> 00:52:53.679
<v Speaker 4>either your favorite game of all time or the game

1045
00:52:53.719 --> 00:52:56.800
<v Speaker 4>that had the biggest impact on your life. And while

1046
00:52:56.920 --> 00:52:58.480
<v Speaker 4>while I give you a minutes to think about that,

1047
00:52:59.000 --> 00:53:02.079
<v Speaker 4>mine is, it's actually a tie, and one of them

1048
00:53:02.159 --> 00:53:04.920
<v Speaker 4>is very divisive inside of a community. Okay, the first

1049
00:53:04.960 --> 00:53:08.239
<v Speaker 4>one is an old PS one game called The Legend

1050
00:53:08.360 --> 00:53:12.239
<v Speaker 4>of Dragoon, and it was the game that actually taught

1051
00:53:12.360 --> 00:53:15.960
<v Speaker 4>me that a game can truly tell a story with

1052
00:53:16.159 --> 00:53:19.840
<v Speaker 4>so much depth and emotion. And I see Sean pumping

1053
00:53:19.920 --> 00:53:21.639
<v Speaker 4>his fist in the air, so I'm not alone in this.

1054
00:53:22.400 --> 00:53:25.559
<v Speaker 4>That game sucked me into RPGs for the rest of

1055
00:53:25.599 --> 00:53:28.440
<v Speaker 4>my life, and the game I played not too long

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<v Speaker 4>after that still my favorite final Fantasy game of all time.

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<v Speaker 4>Final Fantasy eight.

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<v Speaker 3>Matt mentioned one of it's not my favorite RBG, but

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<v Speaker 3>it is. It was my brother's favorite, and he's collected.

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<v Speaker 3>He actually has the three colored disc set.

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<v Speaker 4>I still have mine.

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<v Speaker 3>It's not easy to come across now, but my brother

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<v Speaker 3>played that more than Idea. But that game is incredible.

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<v Speaker 3>It's so so good. Shortly thereafter, in that same timeframe,

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<v Speaker 3>there was a JRBG that came out called sube Codin

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<v Speaker 3>oh is That is by far my favorite JRPG of

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<v Speaker 3>all time. Suie Codin two is also very good. They

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<v Speaker 3>just I just downloaded it last night. They remastered it

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<v Speaker 3>and released it this past week.

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<v Speaker 4>Oho.

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<v Speaker 3>My brother literally sent me a Discord message last night saying, hey,

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<v Speaker 3>just sent me a link with this remap. I immediately

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<v Speaker 3>went and downloaded it on the switch right now. It

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<v Speaker 3>plays so good on a handheld like I know. I

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<v Speaker 3>have it on a PS one. I've played through it

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<v Speaker 3>multiple times. I can go back to my original say

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<v Speaker 3>files or are still on the memory card. But Suie

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<v Speaker 3>Codin and Suie Coodin two are definitely my top two.

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<v Speaker 3>Like JRPG all right.

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<v Speaker 1>For me, I used to go to the arcades, so

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<v Speaker 1>I remember playing games like Frogger Defender, some of those

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<v Speaker 1>games Missile Command, which was less so the stand up arcades.

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<v Speaker 1>But my first game on a computer was on an

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<v Speaker 1>Apple two E called Emon Adventure.

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<v Speaker 4>God I've played that.

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<v Speaker 1>It was a text adventure that was my first game.

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<v Speaker 1>It had no graphics in it. You were basically typing

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<v Speaker 1>move left, you know, go go west, go, You run

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<v Speaker 1>into this and what do you do? It was based

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<v Speaker 1>on your responsive based on how you were. So to me,

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<v Speaker 1>that would be an influential game that I certainly remember,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's not as exciting as yours, but it was

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of fun. Emon Adventure all right. That wraps

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<v Speaker 1>up this week's show. We'd love to hear what yours

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<v Speaker 1>are and the reason drop us a line tech guys

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<v Speaker 1>at tech talk radio dot com.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm Andy Taylor, I'm Sean Weird, and I'm Matt Jones.

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<v Speaker 4>Thanks for tuning in. We'll see you all next week.
