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<v Speaker 1>Rip Dum news.

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<v Speaker 2>Didn't need advice.

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<v Speaker 1>Who you don't have to come running just as fast

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<v Speaker 1>as we can.

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<v Speaker 3>Shooter's gonna help me come Man Dix is the Troubleshooter Show.

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<v Speaker 2>No Tom Martino.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm Tom Martino, first and foremost happy to be alive.

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<v Speaker 2>And thank you for being here.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, I have the privilege of coming on the

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<v Speaker 4>air every day as I've been doing for more than

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<v Speaker 4>fifty years in Denver, forty five years on radio and

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<v Speaker 4>TV and now primarily radio on my Troubleshooter Show, the

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<v Speaker 4>longest running radio show still on the air with the

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<v Speaker 4>same host.

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<v Speaker 2>It is the record breaker.

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<v Speaker 4>So if you have a problem, question or complaint, you

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<v Speaker 4>can call us or just want to get something off

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<v Speaker 4>your chest. The other day we were talking about data mining.

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<v Speaker 4>In data mining, finding out as much as you can

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<v Speaker 4>about a topic and pursuing it. A data mining where

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<v Speaker 4>did you get my name? How did you get my name?

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<v Speaker 4>What prompted you to call me? Businesses live and die

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<v Speaker 4>by data mining. You want to know how did this

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<v Speaker 4>customer come to me? And how can I keep more

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<v Speaker 4>customers coming to me? And what did I do right

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<v Speaker 4>or what did I do wrong? And then it occurred

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<v Speaker 4>to me. Of all the data mining in the world,

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<v Speaker 4>I talk to more consumers than any business.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not saying I have more customers than.

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<v Speaker 4>Any business, but if you think about the consistency of

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<v Speaker 4>you guys calling in for the last fifty years Monday

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<v Speaker 4>through Friday in some way, shape or form. I've had

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<v Speaker 4>a show where I've taken calls and I've cataloged them,

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<v Speaker 4>so i have.

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<v Speaker 5>A great.

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<v Speaker 2>Mind to to go find things.

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<v Speaker 4>And also, each and every day we hear from people,

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<v Speaker 4>and I think you've seen how trends change. What used

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<v Speaker 4>to turn on consumers years ago may not rattle their

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<v Speaker 4>chain anymore. And businesses are all trying to do one thing,

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<v Speaker 4>rise above the static. They're trying to stand out. That's

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<v Speaker 4>why they do keyword searches in Google, or that's why

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<v Speaker 4>they do crazy you know clickbait.

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<v Speaker 2>Have you seen the clickbait where.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, put paper look at put pennies in a

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<v Speaker 4>paper bag and hang over your doorway. Here's why I

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<v Speaker 4>never did find out why, by the way, because you

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<v Speaker 4>click on that and it's not about the pennies in

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<v Speaker 4>the bag. It's about sixteen other hacks, and you've got

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<v Speaker 4>to go through each page. Now, the whole idea this

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<v Speaker 4>clickbait is to keep you engaged, so you see as

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<v Speaker 4>many ads as possible. It's never to sell just one product.

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<v Speaker 4>Have you ever noticed this other trend? And I'm wondering

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<v Speaker 4>if you had where you see a product on Instagram

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<v Speaker 4>or on YouTube or anywhere you see a product and

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<v Speaker 4>you're interested in it. I mean, you click to learn more,

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<v Speaker 4>but they're just so that they trying to convince you

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<v Speaker 4>so much to buy it, they never get around to

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<v Speaker 4>selling it to you. You can't even fast forward. It

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<v Speaker 4>makes you watch the whole damn thing. And sometimes I think,

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<v Speaker 4>my god, I'm not wasting my time here doing this.

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<v Speaker 4>I just want to buy it or I just want

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<v Speaker 4>to try it. Anyway, my question to you today is

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<v Speaker 4>how do you make buying decisions?

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<v Speaker 2>Really? How do you?

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<v Speaker 4>I believe we're all the same at our core and

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<v Speaker 4>that we are not crazy, and I think here on

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<v Speaker 4>the Troubleshooter Show, we tend to get the people who

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<v Speaker 4>don't follow the norm.

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<v Speaker 2>The norm is to research.

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<v Speaker 4>The norm is to be proactive in finding businesses or

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<v Speaker 4>products and then to close on that business or product

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<v Speaker 4>and to get information you need to enjoy that product.

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<v Speaker 2>Or that service.

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<v Speaker 4>And I think a lot of us, we think the

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<v Speaker 4>world goes crazy because we hear a few people who've

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<v Speaker 4>done things wrong. Let's go to the phones, though, and

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<v Speaker 4>my main goal today, I'd like to know how you

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<v Speaker 4>formulate your buying decisions.

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<v Speaker 2>Honest to god, I want to data mind you.

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<v Speaker 4>I have the greatest field to mine every single day,

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<v Speaker 4>and we can help small business find out what they're

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<v Speaker 4>doing right or what they're doing wrong. For example, I'd

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<v Speaker 4>love to know. And you can comment on YouTube. My

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<v Speaker 4>morons love commenting. Or you can text me at five

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<v Speaker 4>seven seven three nine. That's the short code and that's

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<v Speaker 4>the short code. You just put that in and send

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<v Speaker 4>and hit send. The text will come to me. Put

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<v Speaker 4>Tom in there somewhere. That's the iHeart number five seven

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<v Speaker 4>seven three nine, and then you can do my personal

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<v Speaker 4>texting number, which is seven four mes evan eighty seven

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<v Speaker 4>four seven nine nine nine fifty two eighty. I like

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<v Speaker 4>to know what formulates your buying decisions, honest to goodness.

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<v Speaker 4>You know what's great about this topic. There's no right

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<v Speaker 4>or wrong answer. Whatever you do is the right answer

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<v Speaker 4>because that's what you do. And I think we can

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<v Speaker 4>educate people now Charles had an issue with an HVAC

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<v Speaker 4>and I think the main issue, if I remember rightly,

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<v Speaker 4>was at the price he paid. Well, actually he no,

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<v Speaker 4>This was the one where he called Home Depot and

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<v Speaker 4>he thought he was calling a crisis intervention program to

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<v Speaker 4>get him a furnace at a special deal. Bo are

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<v Speaker 4>you there? Can you fill me in on this one?

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<v Speaker 4>And I know we have I know we have Charles

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<v Speaker 4>on the line. Charles, you said you called a number

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<v Speaker 4>and you thought you were getting some kind of special

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<v Speaker 4>helpline right.

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<v Speaker 6>Right, It was the interventioned crisis helpline and they did

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<v Speaker 6>not help me what bit? But I would like to.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I think it was a scam.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't know what this crisis intervention hotline is. It

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<v Speaker 4>sounds like a tricky way to make sales.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, that's what it is. You got you hit the

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<v Speaker 6>del right of the head because they wanted to be

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<v Speaker 6>just said all this and all that did, and.

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<v Speaker 4>His Home Depot the only company they referred you to. Yes, okay,

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<v Speaker 4>I think it's some kind of sneaky marketing arm of

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<v Speaker 4>Home Depot.

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<v Speaker 2>What happened then?

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<v Speaker 6>Okay, to cut out all the chase, I would like

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<v Speaker 6>to give kudos to your what are your experts? By

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<v Speaker 6>the day of Bo, Bob did up and beyond, went

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<v Speaker 6>up and beyond the call of duty. He came out

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<v Speaker 6>and he looked at the furnace that he did hear it,

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<v Speaker 6>turned on the pilot light, and he did some other

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<v Speaker 6>things to the to the uh furdust at the furdust

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<v Speaker 6>works excellent.

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<v Speaker 2>Now, okay, do we have bow?

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<v Speaker 4>Hold on one second, do we have bow anywhere to

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<v Speaker 4>be seen?

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<v Speaker 2>Kachina? Is he in the studio or is he on

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<v Speaker 2>the line or anywhere?

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<v Speaker 7>Because not yet he's done in studio. I will try

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<v Speaker 7>to get him on the line.

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<v Speaker 4>All right, Why do I want you to hold on

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<v Speaker 4>a second? And I don't want you to leave, Charles,

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<v Speaker 4>because I want to know what the issue was. And

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<v Speaker 4>and Charles, did this problem happen all of a sudden

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<v Speaker 4>where you woke up and did not have heat?

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<v Speaker 2>Did it happen all of a sudden?

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<v Speaker 6>Well, this has been an ongoing issue that the bad

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<v Speaker 6>that the pilot light did.

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<v Speaker 8>Not they would not throw out no heat.

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<v Speaker 6>It would it be cold always.

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<v Speaker 8>In this house.

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<v Speaker 4>Okay, okay, you hold on and we'll figure out what

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<v Speaker 4>Bo did. What he found and he's a godsend here

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<v Speaker 4>when it comes to HVAC and mechanical problems around the house.

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<v Speaker 2>So hang in there, Charles. I'm marketing this pending because.

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<v Speaker 4>And this brings up another thing what I called deceitful marketing.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't like deception in marketing where you think you're calling,

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<v Speaker 4>like like I had someone call the other day. They

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<v Speaker 4>called my home the other day and I happen to

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<v Speaker 4>answer it and it said, hello, this is so and

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<v Speaker 4>so we're scheduling inspections of the roofs in the area

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<v Speaker 4>to make sure blah blah blah. And I said, excuse me,

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<v Speaker 4>who are you with He tried to make it sound like, well,

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<v Speaker 4>we're doing this and we have to make a time,

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<v Speaker 4>not I'm a roofing company trying to get your business.

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<v Speaker 4>And I said, excuse me, who are you with? Inspection service?

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<v Speaker 4>Is that a county? And I knew it was, And

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<v Speaker 4>I said, is that with the county? He goes, oh, yes,

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<v Speaker 4>we are in this. What he said, Yes, we are

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<v Speaker 4>in a Rapo county doing these inspections to make sure

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<v Speaker 4>blah blah blah are up to code and this. And

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<v Speaker 4>I said, well, but he didn't answer me, are you

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<v Speaker 4>with the county. No, Sarah, I said, who are you with?

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<v Speaker 4>Who is actually paying your bill? I finally figured out

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<v Speaker 4>it was a roofing company. But I don't like deception,

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<v Speaker 4>and a lot of these places they deceive you into

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<v Speaker 4>thinking there's someone special or there with the government, or

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<v Speaker 4>that this is routine just let us do it for you,

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<v Speaker 4>and it's deception or like this what Charles called on.

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<v Speaker 4>Charles called on a crisis intervention program for no Heat,

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<v Speaker 4>but they were actually just working for home Depot's marketing.

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<v Speaker 2>Are and I find it deceiving.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't know how you people feel about it, but

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<v Speaker 4>I find it very deceiving. Anyway, we will talk to

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<v Speaker 4>him coming up, and I'm going to also take some

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<v Speaker 4>other calls, So hang on please, I'm going to take

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<v Speaker 4>a quick break and mo. My goal today is to

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<v Speaker 4>race through calls and to get you solved.

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<v Speaker 2>Three O three seven one three eight.

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<v Speaker 4>Two five five fixed at twenty four to seven for

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<v Speaker 4>your some pump service forty nine bucks. Get it before

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<v Speaker 4>the spring rains. Well, they'll come, they'll pull the pump,

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<v Speaker 4>adjust to clean it and tune it and it's only

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<v Speaker 4>forty nine bucks. Fix my home dot Com book now

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<v Speaker 4>go with a sure thing Denver's Best Roofer Excel Roofing

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<v Speaker 4>at dozens of insurance companies find out now three oh

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<v Speaker 4>three seven to seven to one help. You'll think you're

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<v Speaker 4>his only customer when you choose Frank durand the real

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<v Speaker 4>estate Man dot com to list your home with Remax

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<v Speaker 4>Alliance three oh three nine two zero sixteen twenty two.

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<v Speaker 4>Hi Tom Martino here, fix it twenty four to seven.

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<v Speaker 4>In addition to that, somepump for forty nine bucks. You

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<v Speaker 4>can have your furnace your AC tuned up for thirty

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<v Speaker 4>nine bucks before the heat. Fix my Home dot com

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<v Speaker 4>book now, so they have the this is the home

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<v Speaker 2>Fix it twenty four to seven. Fix my Home dot

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<v Speaker 2>com book now. Okay, I want to talk.

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<v Speaker 4>I want to bring up a call first before I

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<v Speaker 4>go anywhere else that that I want to consult. Brian

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<v Speaker 4>Burns on Brian Burns who was a Compass insurance group

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<v Speaker 4>Our Insurance Experts Fit two.

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<v Speaker 2>She had some handgag shipped in.

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<v Speaker 4>So she used a shipping company one hundred and fifty

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<v Speaker 4>bags in ten boxes. Three of the ten boxes didn't

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<v Speaker 4>make it to the destination.

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<v Speaker 2>Now fit two. Who did you use to ship these?

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<v Speaker 9>It's called.

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<v Speaker 10>It's an individual, but it goes by.

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<v Speaker 10>I think that's French cargo Jeppe.

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<v Speaker 2>So it was okay, And where did you find When

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<v Speaker 4>Why didn't you just go to ups or fed? Actually,

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<v Speaker 4>why did you go to this shipping company? I never

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<v Speaker 10>This shipping company was reserved to me by the embassy, uh,

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<v Speaker 10>the embassy of a Senegal a long time ago. Yes,

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<v Speaker 10>terms of it, he does the shipping company throughout West Africa,

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<v Speaker 10>not just one country.

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<v Speaker 4>Okay, I got you. That's why we haven't heard from

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<v Speaker 4>him here. Okay, what went wrong?

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<v Speaker 10>Well, we've been working together on and off for nine

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<v Speaker 10>years and he took ten boxes that we shipped from

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<v Speaker 10>Dakar to the United States. But the ten boxes made

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<v Speaker 10>it to Atlanta, and he told us that he's ready

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<v Speaker 10>to ship it ship them to me. But out of

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<v Speaker 10>the ten boxes, only seven made it. And out of

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<v Speaker 10>those seven boxes, three of them were just straps. But

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<v Speaker 10>in the boxes are very unique.

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<v Speaker 2>Wait, three three of them. Three of them were what two?

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<v Speaker 2>Three of them were.

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<v Speaker 10>What strapped handbags? We make handbags and the strapped the handbags. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 10>so three of the boxes were only strapped of the handbags.

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<v Speaker 2>And those are the ones and those are the boxes missing.

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<v Speaker 10>No, the boxes that I received was seven out of ten.

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<v Speaker 10>So out of these seven boxes that I received, three

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<v Speaker 10>of them were strapped, which means that my product, the

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<v Speaker 10>actual product. I've only received the three or four boxes

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<v Speaker 10>of actual products.

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<v Speaker 4>Okay, so how many does that make out of the

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<v Speaker 4>one hundred and fifty bags?

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<v Speaker 10>So we did hundred n sifty bags were the initial

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<v Speaker 10>initial estimate. So we finally opened up after making the

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<v Speaker 10>with back two hundred and ninety individual items missed altogether.

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<v Speaker 4>Okay, so what is your question? Did you have this

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<v Speaker 4>shipment insured?

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<v Speaker 10>So the shipping company, I don't know if they have

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<v Speaker 10>insurance or not.

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<v Speaker 11>But what we do.

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<v Speaker 10>They give us an estimate how much it costs to ship,

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<v Speaker 10>and we pay them the money as when we receive

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<v Speaker 10>the product, I mean once the product is in the US.

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<v Speaker 2>But what about insurance?

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<v Speaker 9>Fat too?

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<v Speaker 4>What about insurance? Was insurance discussed? Did you have insurance?

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<v Speaker 4>Is there insurance available? I mean, tell me about the

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<v Speaker 4>insurance part.

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<v Speaker 10>I have a business insurance, but for the shipping part,

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<v Speaker 10>I don't have a part. Particular shipping insurance to me,

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<v Speaker 10>that's covered by the shipping company, but I don't.

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<v Speaker 4>That's not necessarily no, no, no, for too, it's not necessarily covered by

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<v Speaker 4>the shipping company. But it's usually something that's discussed. What

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<v Speaker 4>was the value of this shipment in general? What was

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<v Speaker 4>the overall value of this shipment?

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<v Speaker 10>So the overall value of the shipping we did not calculate,

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<v Speaker 10>but we calculated the overall value of the items that

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<v Speaker 10>were lost.

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<v Speaker 4>Okay, okay, give me the value of the items that

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<v Speaker 4>were lost.

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<v Speaker 10>That's a two hundred thousand.

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<v Speaker 4>Wait a minute, you're saying that you lost two hundred

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<v Speaker 4>thousand dollars in the shipping right now, who do you

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<v Speaker 4>expect to pay for that?

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<v Speaker 9>The chipper?

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<v Speaker 2>And okay, good, good answer.

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<v Speaker 4>But why Now I'm going to ask why do you

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<v Speaker 10>Because I believe that it's stolen, and he tells me

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<v Speaker 10>that it's lost, but I don't believe that. He said

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<v Speaker 10>that these three boxes which are big boxes. Those are

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<v Speaker 10>three and no.

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<v Speaker 2>No fet two.

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<v Speaker 4>You're you're not answering my question. I'm not asking you

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<v Speaker 4>what he said. I am asking you. Why do you

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<v Speaker 4>believe the shipper owes you two hundred thousand dollars for

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<v Speaker 4>the lost items.

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<v Speaker 10>Because the items were lost in his care?

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<v Speaker 4>Okay, another good answer. Now I'm going to ask Brian

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<v Speaker 4>Burns his opinion. I don't really know, Brian. If I

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<v Speaker 4>blindly go to a shipper that I've been using for

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<v Speaker 4>a while and I have this stuff shipped and two

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<v Speaker 4>hundred thousand dollars, for God's sake shows up missing, who's

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<v Speaker 4>responsible for it? My first before you even answer Brian

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<v Speaker 4>the two, I gotta ask you a question. If that

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<v Speaker 4>part of the shipment was two hundred, what's the value

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<v Speaker 4>of the whole shipment?

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<v Speaker 2>About a half a million? What was the value of

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<v Speaker 2>this shipment.

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<v Speaker 10>That we have to calculate because these are.

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<v Speaker 2>Very much well, just give me give me a rough idea,

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<v Speaker 2>Give me a rough idea. It was more than two hundred.

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<v Speaker 2>How much was it? If you value the whole shipment,

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<v Speaker 2>how much is it? Approximately?

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<v Speaker 10>Well, I would say about two and eighty thousand.

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<v Speaker 4>Okay, Okay, Now, Brian, when somebody is shipping something worth

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<v Speaker 4>two hundred and eighty thousand, I would never ship anything

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<v Speaker 4>of that value without making sure I had insurance for

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<v Speaker 4>two Did you ever ask them if they had insurance?

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<v Speaker 11>No?

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<v Speaker 2>Okay. Now I want to know somethingated. Did you have

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<v Speaker 2>a shipping contract?

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<v Speaker 10>It didn't contract?

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<v Speaker 4>Okay, So she has a verbal contract to ship two

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<v Speaker 4>hundred thousand dollars is missing, Brian, you can't automatically assume,

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, just talk about it. Do shippers have automatic insurance?

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<v Speaker 12>No?

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<v Speaker 13>Well, I mean, as you you guys, even from a

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<v Speaker 13>smaller standpoint, if you're shipping something a lot of times

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<v Speaker 13>they'll have some insurance automatically on it. But it's it's

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<v Speaker 13>a very small amount. If you're going to be shipping

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<v Speaker 13>that kind of dollar amount, you need to actually specify

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<v Speaker 13>the amount of insurance. Now, on a commercial policy property policy,

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<v Speaker 13>she might have even been able to call her agent

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<v Speaker 13>and get what's called an inla marine policy that would

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<v Speaker 13>cover if she was responsible for it during the shipping.

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<v Speaker 13>She might have been able to get insurance since it

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<v Speaker 13>was coming overseas. I say, maybe, but you could at

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<v Speaker 13>least have that conversation. But I mean, I don't know

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<v Speaker 13>who you're going to be able to go after to

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<v Speaker 13>get this kind of money.

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<v Speaker 4>Now, now here's one thing I will say, Fetu, I

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<v Speaker 4>want you to make a distinction here. When we're talking

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<v Speaker 4>about insurance, that's one thing. But when we're talking about liability,

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<v Speaker 4>that's an or example, Fetu, that company.

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<v Speaker 2>Could be liable to you because.

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<v Speaker 4>They lost your shipment, meaning that if they were negligent

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<v Speaker 4>or at fault, you can go after them. However, that

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<v Speaker 4>doesn't mean that they have insurance for it. So insurance

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<v Speaker 4>and liability are two separate things. People often Brian lump

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<v Speaker 4>them together, and it really doesn't matter. Liability is if

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<v Speaker 4>they are responsible. Insurance is covering if they are responsible,

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<v Speaker 4>if they have the insurance.

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<v Speaker 2>So fit two.

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<v Speaker 13>You're barking up the two.

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<v Speaker 2>The very first thing I want to ask you, I'm

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<v Speaker 2>going to assume.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm going to assume there was no insurance on this.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm just going to assume that. But that doesn't get

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<v Speaker 4>the company out of out of trouble. What did the

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<v Speaker 4>company do wrong? Can you nail them for this because

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<v Speaker 4>they still may have to pay you whether they have

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<v Speaker 4>insurance or not.

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<v Speaker 10>Yes, I can, well quickly, I have to say, it's

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<v Speaker 10>your fraud, it's your plan fraud, and I have a

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<v Speaker 10>toms of documentation. But why I'm saying this? The company

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<v Speaker 10>have knowledged that they have the ten boxes that arrived

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<v Speaker 10>in Atlanta. They had those ten boxes and the and

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<v Speaker 10>three of the boxes are missing, So that makes them

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<v Speaker 10>responsible number one.

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<v Speaker 5>Number two?

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<v Speaker 2>But what makes them but wait wait, wait what okay?

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<v Speaker 2>On shipping?

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<v Speaker 4>On shipping, you would assume that when they take control

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<v Speaker 4>of your packages, they're responsible for them, but they may

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<v Speaker 4>not be negligent. What if a truck was robbed? What

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<v Speaker 4>if something happened? Does anyone know what happened to these

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<v Speaker 4>ten boxes?

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<v Speaker 10>So that's the investigation part. We can investigate too, because

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<v Speaker 10>he said the back of the U haul, the U

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<v Speaker 10>hor that they do, it's not any truck, it's a

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<v Speaker 10>U haul. So for a you hold the back of

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<v Speaker 10>a U har truck to to fly open and have

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<v Speaker 10>three big boxes fall out of that, it didn't have

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<v Speaker 10>a traffic jamp. No, But he has anything, has seen

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<v Speaker 10>anything that's possible.

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<v Speaker 4>So are you saying that three are you saying the

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<v Speaker 4>ten boxes that are missing, ten of them, that some

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<v Speaker 4>of them fell out of the truck.

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<v Speaker 10>That's what you say, but I'm saying that that's that's

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<v Speaker 10>a lie.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I would say they would be liable if they

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<v Speaker 2>if they packed the truck and three of them fell

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<v Speaker 2>out of the truck. Look at your best bet is

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<v Speaker 2>not to try to get insurance because you don't have

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<v Speaker 2>any contract. You can't just walk up to an insurance

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<v Speaker 2>company and say I want you to cover this.

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<v Speaker 4>What you need to do is sue the shipping company.

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<v Speaker 4>Does the shipping company have any money? Is the guy rich?

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<v Speaker 4>Does he have anything? Does he own a building? Is

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<v Speaker 4>he worth going after? Can he cover two hundred thousand losses?

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<v Speaker 8>He has?

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<v Speaker 10>He has a lot of business is going on, But

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<v Speaker 10>I don't know how much money he has. But I

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<v Speaker 10>can tell you Tom that the reason I'm saying is

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<v Speaker 10>the feelings we when we pack our products, we don't

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<v Speaker 10>pack we had no lines, multiple decent lines. We don't

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<v Speaker 10>pack all of the one line in one box. So

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<v Speaker 10>we as if divide our line into multiple boxes, because

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<v Speaker 10>we assume that if something happens to one of the

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<v Speaker 10>books and that one's box happened to be one total,

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<v Speaker 10>one complete line, will lose all that line to avoid it.

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<v Speaker 4>No, I get it, I get it. You divide the shipment.

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<v Speaker 4>You divide the shipment up. But we need to reduce

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<v Speaker 4>this to the simplest common denominator set two. I think

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<v Speaker 4>you're looking about this.

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<v Speaker 2>The whole way.

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<v Speaker 4>You're running after insurance companies, and you shouldn't be. You

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<v Speaker 4>have no contract with any insurance company, and.

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<v Speaker 2>You can't create one out of thin air.

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<v Speaker 4>And you can't go after an insurance company because you

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<v Speaker 4>think the company should have had it. So hold on

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<v Speaker 1>All right.

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<v Speaker 4>So fit two first contacted us because part of her

434
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<v Speaker 4>shipment from Senegal Africa was is missing. It's worth about

435
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<v Speaker 4>two hundred thousand, So she's assuming there's insurance. Now, Brian burns,

436
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<v Speaker 4>I want to talk about insurance. What if there is

437
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<v Speaker 4>insurance he doesn't know? How does she find out if

438
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<v Speaker 4>there is insurance? How does anyone find out.

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<v Speaker 13>Exactly what you're talking about? Doing you see them because

440
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<v Speaker 13>at that point they'll get their insurance involved that it

441
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<v Speaker 13>is there. But if she just tries to call them

442
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<v Speaker 13>or you know, he doesn't have to answer her question

443
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<v Speaker 13>of whether there's insurance. But if she wants to make

444
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<v Speaker 13>sure the insurance gets involved, if there is any you

445
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<v Speaker 13>would you would do exactly what you were talking about,

446
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<v Speaker 13>figure out liability and then sue.

447
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<v Speaker 4>It's it's unfortunate. Brian is with Compass Insurance Group. And Brian,

448
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<v Speaker 4>even if he does have insurance, it may not cover this, right,

449
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<v Speaker 4>I mean there are different go ahead.

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<v Speaker 13>Well, they might they might say that he's not negligent,

451
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<v Speaker 13>and in my opinion, it would shock me if there's

452
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<v Speaker 13>not some sort of contract. Whether she said this is

453
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<v Speaker 13>just verbal, but if this is a legitimate company, there's

454
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<v Speaker 13>probably a contract that limits his liability on the items

455
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<v Speaker 13>that are shipped. It's really going to be on a

456
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<v Speaker 13>person shipping the items. If they have that kind of value,

457
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<v Speaker 13>they need to ensure that. They need to specify insurance

458
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<v Speaker 13>for it.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you, Brian.

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<v Speaker 4>By the way, that's home of the insurance checkup, where

461
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<v Speaker 4>they'll review your insurance to make sure you're not out

462
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<v Speaker 4>of whack with insurance paying too much or maybe under

463
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<v Speaker 4>insured or whatever. Three oh three nine nine six nine thousand.

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<v Speaker 4>Now here's what I would do. Okay, you're not going

465
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<v Speaker 4>to like it for two because you got very you

466
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<v Speaker 4>got a really bad situation.

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<v Speaker 2>You don't have a contract.

468
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<v Speaker 4>You have a shipper in Senegal, Africa, so now you

469
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<v Speaker 4>have to prove the shipper was negligent. If the shipper

470
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<v Speaker 4>was negligent, you need to sue them for the value.

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<v Speaker 4>You're going after insurance. Don't go after insurance. It's not

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<v Speaker 4>an insurance item. It's a negligence claim. You're claiming the.

473
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<v Speaker 2>Shipper was legit. You're going to do that in Senegal.

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<v Speaker 14>Thank you, Tom.

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<v Speaker 10>I just wanted to take Okay, I'm not going after

476
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<v Speaker 10>the insurance, but I'm going to after the company because

477
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<v Speaker 10>I believe that they've stole it.

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<v Speaker 2>That's what you do.

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<v Speaker 4>You go after the company in Senegal for negligence. And

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<v Speaker 4>I don't know what their laws are, but good luck,

481
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<v Speaker 4>it's gonna be hard. It's going to be a very,

482
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<v Speaker 4>very very difficult one. And by the way, this is

483
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<v Speaker 4>not just for exotic handbags or anything, but people. You

484
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<v Speaker 4>need to think in terms of shipping. We all have

485
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<v Speaker 4>things shipped, whether it be Amazon or eBay or whatever.

486
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<v Speaker 4>Have you ever looked into shipping, because you know, there's

487
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<v Speaker 4>an age old problem. Who owns the property when you

488
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<v Speaker 4>buy something on Amazon or on eBay or another service

489
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<v Speaker 4>and it shipped you and it doesn't get to you.

490
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<v Speaker 4>Is it yours when they hand it over to the

491
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<v Speaker 4>shipper and now it's your responsibility or is it still

492
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<v Speaker 4>their responsibility until you put your hands on it. I

493
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<v Speaker 4>have an answer for that, but I want you to

494
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<v Speaker 4>tell me whose property is it? Okay, you see it online,

495
00:28:02.319 --> 00:28:07.599
<v Speaker 4>you buy it, they pack it up and hand it

496
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<v Speaker 4>over to the shipper, and it never makes it to you.

497
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<v Speaker 2>Was that contract fulfilled?

498
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<v Speaker 4>And now you're screwed because you have to find out

499
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<v Speaker 4>where your package went? Or is it not yours until

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<v Speaker 4>you pick it up at your door? What do you

501
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<v Speaker 4>think The answer is going to surprise you? You know

502
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<v Speaker 4>why because the answer is it's your product. Once you

503
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<v Speaker 4>buy it. When they hand it over to the shipper,

504
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<v Speaker 4>it's yours. So you have to make sure unless the

505
00:28:42.960 --> 00:28:48.279
<v Speaker 4>contract specifies otherwise. But when you go online and buy

506
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<v Speaker 4>it and it says congratulations or shipping in progress, they're

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<v Speaker 4>shipping your package. All right, Deputy Bow is on now

508
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<v Speaker 4>and we're going to follow this problem up.

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<v Speaker 2>Deputy Bow.

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<v Speaker 4>What I really do know is that this guy thought

511
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<v Speaker 4>he was dealing with some kind of crisis hotline. It

512
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<v Speaker 4>was just some kind of fancy marketing ploy by home depot.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't mind that, but it's kind of weird. Charles

514
00:29:16.279 --> 00:29:18.920
<v Speaker 4>did not get the service he wanted, and you said

515
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<v Speaker 4>you would take a look at it.

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<v Speaker 2>What did you find? He needed a furnace, but you

517
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<v Speaker 2>went over and made his furnace work. Tell me about it, right.

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<v Speaker 15>He did call this energy outreach. I didn't investigate that.

519
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<v Speaker 15>Apparently by making a call, the home Depot sent out

520
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<v Speaker 15>an HVAC company and they told him that the parts

521
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<v Speaker 15>of their parts were not available for the furnace and

522
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<v Speaker 15>quoted him. I believe it was sixty nine dollars and Charles,

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<v Speaker 15>being a disabled person on low income, has not had

524
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<v Speaker 15>heat for two months.

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<v Speaker 9>I went over there last Saturday.

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<v Speaker 15>He took my order with me to help me, went

527
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<v Speaker 15>over there, checked it all out. The contractor removed the

528
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<v Speaker 15>heating access door, so I couldn't I couldn't properly light it.

529
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<v Speaker 15>So I actually borrowed a borrowed some parts from another

530
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<v Speaker 15>furnace in my rental. Was able to put it together,

531
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<v Speaker 15>clean the pilot, and we got and I did a

532
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<v Speaker 15>carbon monoxide test and a gas leak test, and basically

533
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<v Speaker 15>we got charles furnace up and running. And I told Charles,

534
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<v Speaker 15>the parts are certainly available to the unit. So I

535
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<v Speaker 15>believe we, you know we The troubleshooter shows eight named

536
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<v Speaker 15>sixty nine dollars from a new furnace.

537
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<v Speaker 2>My god, bo what did it turn out to be.

538
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<v Speaker 15>A dirty pilot? And I cleaned it from a couple

539
00:30:47.880 --> 00:30:51.160
<v Speaker 15>and I replaced the burner access store, which I believe

540
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<v Speaker 15>whoever was out there purposely removed it to disable the unit.

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<v Speaker 2>And you stick, what would that have cost on the

542
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<v Speaker 2>open market?

543
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<v Speaker 15>Fifteen hundred bucks?

544
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<v Speaker 9>Maybe that with all.

545
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<v Speaker 4>The work, Okay, so around fifteen hundred And they quoted

546
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<v Speaker 4>him sixty nine hundred, yes, And they said that even

547
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<v Speaker 4>at that the parts are not readily available.

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<v Speaker 15>Well, they weren't interested in repaying it because they told Charles.

549
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<v Speaker 15>Charles will tell you they told him that they cannot

550
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<v Speaker 15>repair the furnace because they said that puts for the

551
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<v Speaker 15>Internet is no longer available.

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<v Speaker 2>So the sixty nine hundred was for a replacement for

553
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<v Speaker 2>a brand new.

554
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<v Speaker 15>Furnace, and Charles just couldn't afford it. He's on a

555
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<v Speaker 15>fixed income, you know.

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<v Speaker 4>Deputy Bow, Yes, you know you did a great job. Again, man,

557
00:31:50.039 --> 00:31:52.640
<v Speaker 4>I'm down here knocking out of the park with these things.

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<v Speaker 15>And I'm also going to stand Charles the lift of

559
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<v Speaker 15>the available parts and Kathy has trouble and if future

560
00:32:00.880 --> 00:32:04.279
<v Speaker 15>he will know that parts are available. It's a refurnas

561
00:32:04.359 --> 00:32:07.480
<v Speaker 15>some parts are still available. It was just a pretty

562
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<v Speaker 15>easy repair.

563
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<v Speaker 2>Thank you, Thank you.

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<v Speaker 4>Very much, Charles, thank you. I got to take a break.

565
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<v Speaker 4>We have more coming up. Go with a sure thing

566
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<v Speaker 4>Denver's Best roofer Excel roofing dot com. You don't pay

567
00:32:22.400 --> 00:32:29.039
<v Speaker 4>a cent until you're content. Time for an insurance checkup free,

568
00:32:29.119 --> 00:32:32.880
<v Speaker 4>no obligation. In comparison, call Compass insurance paying too much

569
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<v Speaker 4>your coverage at dozens of insurance companies find out now

570
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<v Speaker 4>three O three seven seven to one. Help you'll think

571
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<v Speaker 4>you're his only customer when you choose Frank durand the

572
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<v Speaker 4>real estate man dot com to list your home with

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<v Speaker 4>Remax Alliance three oh three nine two zero sixteen twenty two.

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<v Speaker 4>Hi Tom Martine, Let's start with Tricia and Car Toys.

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<v Speaker 4>Hello Tricia, what's going on?

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<v Speaker 8>Hi?

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<v Speaker 12>Tom?

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<v Speaker 4>So.

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<v Speaker 12>I had gone to Car Toys to get a new

580
00:33:02.720 --> 00:33:07.319
<v Speaker 12>car radio and I was driving two friends house going

581
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<v Speaker 12>about sixty five on Highley thirty six when my hood

582
00:33:10.000 --> 00:33:16.559
<v Speaker 12>flew open and I tried contacting Car Toys and they

583
00:33:16.680 --> 00:33:19.079
<v Speaker 12>said that they looked at the footage. They keep telling

584
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<v Speaker 12>me they never opened up the hood, but I personally

585
00:33:22.799 --> 00:33:25.359
<v Speaker 12>don't believe them. When I asked them if they could

586
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<v Speaker 12>send me the security footage, they said the only way

587
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<v Speaker 12>that they can send the footage to anyone is if

588
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<v Speaker 12>they open a police investigation.

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<v Speaker 4>Well that's not true. I mean that might be their policy,

590
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<v Speaker 4>you know what I mean? They might have an internal

591
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<v Speaker 4>policy that says we don't give you footage unless there's

592
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<v Speaker 4>a claim. But Tricia, I want to ask a little

593
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<v Speaker 4>I want to ask a few questions. You picked up

594
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<v Speaker 4>your car for cars from Car Toys and how long

595
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<v Speaker 4>did you drive it?

596
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<v Speaker 2>Before the hood opened.

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<v Speaker 12>I think about fifteen minutes or so. I'm not one

598
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<v Speaker 12>hundred per cent sure.

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<v Speaker 2>So it was right when you picked it up.

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<v Speaker 12>Pretty much. Yeah, I got them too. I twenty five

601
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<v Speaker 12>to thirty six.

602
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<v Speaker 2>And how fast were you going.

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<v Speaker 12>On thirty six? I was going about sixty five about that.

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<v Speaker 4>Don't you have an emergency latch that keeps it latched

605
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<v Speaker 4>even if it opens?

606
00:34:24.800 --> 00:34:28.159
<v Speaker 12>I'm supposed to, but my dad actually looked the latch

607
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<v Speaker 12>and plug.

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<v Speaker 16>The bolts were missing for some reason.

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<v Speaker 4>But it was there before you took it in. Yep,

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<v Speaker 4>all right, I want you to hold on, Trisia. This

611
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<v Speaker 4>sounds like too much of a coincidence. I can't see

612
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<v Speaker 4>how they could just turn their back on you completely.

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<v Speaker 2>To hold on, we'll talk about it.

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<v Speaker 4>Go with a sure thing Denver's Best roofer Excel Roofing

615
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<v Speaker 4>dot com. You don't pay a cent until you're content.

616
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<v Speaker 4>Time for an insurance check up free, no obligation. In comparison,

617
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<v Speaker 4>call Compass Insurance. Pay too much your coverage at dozens

618
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<v Speaker 4>of insurance companies. Find out now three oh three seven

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<v Speaker 4>seven to one help. You'll think you're his only customer

620
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<v Speaker 4>when you choose Frank durand the real estate man dot

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<v Speaker 4>com to list your home with Remax Alliance three oh

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<v Speaker 4>three nine two zero sixteen twenty two.

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<v Speaker 1>Rit tough.

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<v Speaker 2>News needs who you don't have?

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<v Speaker 1>Run anxious as fast as you can.

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<v Speaker 2>Shooter's gonna help.

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<v Speaker 8>Come man, This is.

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<v Speaker 3>The Troubleshooter Show. Now, Tom Martino, Hey, Hey, hey.

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<v Speaker 4>Tom Martino here, and we've been solving problems, answering questions,

630
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<v Speaker 4>taking complaints, making your life a little easier, as we've

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<v Speaker 4>done for forty five years. Listen, there's something I got

632
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<v Speaker 4>to bring up because it comes up all the time.

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<v Speaker 2>Shipping.

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<v Speaker 4>Don't assume when you ship something it's automatically covered. It's

635
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<v Speaker 4>automatically covered by the shipper, or by you or by

636
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<v Speaker 4>someone else. And when do you own something Do you

637
00:36:14.639 --> 00:36:16.840
<v Speaker 4>own it when you make the transaction or do you

638
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<v Speaker 4>own it when you get delivered? For example, if you

639
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<v Speaker 4>make a transaction online and they ship it and it

640
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<v Speaker 4>doesn't get to you, whose.

641
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<v Speaker 2>Problem is it?

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<v Speaker 4>It's your problem unless you make a contract that's fulfilled

643
00:36:30.400 --> 00:36:34.679
<v Speaker 4>upon receipt of it at your door, it's really your problem. Now,

644
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<v Speaker 4>Amazon kind of takes the risk out of it because

645
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<v Speaker 4>Amazon makes it so if they ship something and you

646
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<v Speaker 4>don't get it, they'll send it out again. Amazon is

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<v Speaker 4>really in a class all by itself. But if you're

648
00:36:49.920 --> 00:36:53.760
<v Speaker 4>ever dealing online, for example, we've had this happen from

649
00:36:54.039 --> 00:36:58.000
<v Speaker 4>peer to peer transactions. Somebody buys something in North Carolina

650
00:36:58.519 --> 00:37:00.960
<v Speaker 4>and John Smith goes and puts something in a box

651
00:37:01.599 --> 00:37:02.920
<v Speaker 4>and takes it to FedEx.

652
00:37:03.760 --> 00:37:06.800
<v Speaker 2>FedEx never delivers it. It's lost.

653
00:37:07.840 --> 00:37:12.480
<v Speaker 4>That's your problem, that's not John Smith's problem. Unless John

654
00:37:12.519 --> 00:37:15.800
<v Speaker 4>Smith never took it to FedEx. That's a whole different ballgame.

655
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<v Speaker 4>That's why you want to receipt. But shipping we always

656
00:37:19.480 --> 00:37:23.199
<v Speaker 4>take for granted, and we shouldn't. We should look into

657
00:37:23.280 --> 00:37:26.559
<v Speaker 4>everything we buy if it's important, and who's ensuring it

658
00:37:26.760 --> 00:37:29.639
<v Speaker 4>and who's responsible for it until you get it in

659
00:37:29.719 --> 00:37:37.360
<v Speaker 4>your hands. All right now, Tricia said she had a

660
00:37:37.400 --> 00:37:42.119
<v Speaker 4>car radio put in at Car Toys and was on

661
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<v Speaker 4>the highway within fifteen minutes or so and her hood

662
00:37:46.719 --> 00:37:51.119
<v Speaker 4>flew open. Now that's too much of a coincidence, Tricia,

663
00:37:51.159 --> 00:37:53.079
<v Speaker 4>What do they say?

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<v Speaker 14>They kept telling me by it wasn't their fault that

665
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<v Speaker 14>they never opened up the hood at all, even though

666
00:38:01.000 --> 00:38:03.320
<v Speaker 14>I know they would have to disconnect the battery to

667
00:38:03.480 --> 00:38:06.199
<v Speaker 14>do any electrical work in any car.

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<v Speaker 2>What kind of car do you have?

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<v Speaker 12>It's a two thousand and two Canday XT three fifty.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, now what harm did it do?

671
00:38:19.679 --> 00:38:22.719
<v Speaker 12>Currently? My hoot is bend in half and it will

672
00:38:22.719 --> 00:38:25.039
<v Speaker 12>not latch again. I also have a giant dent in

673
00:38:25.159 --> 00:38:26.400
<v Speaker 12>the top of my car.

674
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<v Speaker 2>How much is this all going to cost to fix?

675
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<v Speaker 12>I'm not sure. I haven't gone to a body shop yet.

676
00:38:35.519 --> 00:38:38.000
<v Speaker 12>Just because we've been trying to work with their insurance

677
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<v Speaker 12>on trying to cover it.

678
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<v Speaker 2>What does their insurance say?

679
00:38:44.440 --> 00:38:46.960
<v Speaker 12>Their insurance has not contacted me at all. They keep

680
00:38:47.000 --> 00:38:50.719
<v Speaker 12>telling me they're putting in a claim, but nobody's contacted

681
00:38:50.760 --> 00:38:51.440
<v Speaker 12>me about anything.

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<v Speaker 4>Tricia, I would handle this by getting an estimate, and

683
00:38:58.320 --> 00:39:01.880
<v Speaker 4>if it's under seventy five hundred, I would take the

684
00:39:01.960 --> 00:39:05.440
<v Speaker 4>car toys to small claims court. As soon as you

685
00:39:05.559 --> 00:39:08.599
<v Speaker 4>file that, they have to put submit it to their

686
00:39:08.639 --> 00:39:10.800
<v Speaker 4>insurance and they won't ignore you.

687
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<v Speaker 2>I don't see now.

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<v Speaker 4>Now they claim they have videotape and they've never opened

689
00:39:17.559 --> 00:39:25.280
<v Speaker 4>the hood of your car, right, And they said the

690
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<v Speaker 4>only way you get the videotape is if there's a case.

691
00:39:28.280 --> 00:39:30.880
<v Speaker 4>So if you file a case in small claims court,

692
00:39:31.800 --> 00:39:37.599
<v Speaker 4>you can subpoena that tape, but that tape has to

693
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<v Speaker 4>be I don't know, Like they have a static cam

694
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<v Speaker 4>on that car that shows the hood was closed the

695
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<v Speaker 4>whole time.

696
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<v Speaker 2>I mean that seems that seems weird to me.

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<v Speaker 12>Yeah, they're saying that they have security cameras in their

698
00:39:53.719 --> 00:39:54.639
<v Speaker 12>garages and they.

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<v Speaker 16>Were looking at that right right.

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<v Speaker 4>I understand what they're saying, but it seems me there's

701
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<v Speaker 4>too much of a coincidence. I mean, you've driven around

702
00:40:04.800 --> 00:40:06.960
<v Speaker 4>in that car for a while and never had a problem.

703
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<v Speaker 4>But what I still don't understand is why the safety

704
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<v Speaker 4>latch did not catch it. Did you not have a

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<v Speaker 4>safety latch on your car?

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<v Speaker 12>I don't know for sure. I'm like ninety nine percent

707
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<v Speaker 12>sure it does, though, because I'm pretty sure every single

708
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<v Speaker 12>car has a security latch.

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<v Speaker 2>Well they're supposed to.

710
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<v Speaker 4>So if it comes loose, you still have to reach

711
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<v Speaker 4>your hand in there to open the hood.

712
00:40:34.760 --> 00:40:38.840
<v Speaker 8>Yeah, that's what I have to do, well, I know.

713
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<v Speaker 2>But so there still is a safety latch there.

714
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<v Speaker 12>Yeah, there is a safety latch. Now that you explain

715
00:40:46.519 --> 00:40:47.960
<v Speaker 12>that to me, I do have to reach under the

716
00:40:48.000 --> 00:40:51.000
<v Speaker 12>car and hit a latch to open it all.

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<v Speaker 4>The way okay, okay, you pull a cord or something,

718
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<v Speaker 4>or you pull an activator in the cockpit, or press

719
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<v Speaker 4>a button that pops the hood. Then you go out

720
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<v Speaker 4>and put your fingers in there and open it.

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<v Speaker 2>Is that how you do it?

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<v Speaker 17>Exactly?

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00:41:08.480 --> 00:41:09.639
<v Speaker 12>That's exactly how I do it.

724
00:41:10.800 --> 00:41:11.239
<v Speaker 2>Okay?

725
00:41:11.719 --> 00:41:15.360
<v Speaker 4>Right now? How closed does your hood get? Are you

726
00:41:15.400 --> 00:41:16.599
<v Speaker 4>able to drive your car?

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<v Speaker 12>The only way I'm able to drive my car right

728
00:41:20.960 --> 00:41:24.320
<v Speaker 12>now is because a cop actually came to the highway

729
00:41:24.400 --> 00:41:26.840
<v Speaker 12>and tied it down with a rope, and I can't

730
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<v Speaker 12>go over forty or fifty miles an hour.

731
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<v Speaker 4>All right, I want you to I don't know how

732
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<v Speaker 4>we figure. Who do we ask about installing a radio?

733
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<v Speaker 4>Let's ask Kevin Colkin? Okay, did they do electrical work?

734
00:41:43.000 --> 00:41:45.440
<v Speaker 4>I want to ask one of our experts. Can you

735
00:41:45.519 --> 00:41:48.079
<v Speaker 4>install a radio? What did you have done? Did you

736
00:41:48.119 --> 00:41:49.960
<v Speaker 4>have a new antenna put on it too? Or just

737
00:41:49.960 --> 00:41:50.440
<v Speaker 4>a radio?

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00:41:52.159 --> 00:41:55.000
<v Speaker 12>It was just a radio. I'm only using it for Bluetooth.

739
00:41:57.199 --> 00:42:00.639
<v Speaker 4>And are you claiming that they had to do something

740
00:42:01.079 --> 00:42:03.159
<v Speaker 4>you said to get to the battery? What what are

741
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<v Speaker 4>you What did you say in the beginning.

742
00:42:06.679 --> 00:42:09.519
<v Speaker 12>They have to open up the hood and disconnect the battery.

743
00:42:09.880 --> 00:42:12.440
<v Speaker 12>So that if they why any wires are not.

744
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<v Speaker 16>Going to recopuite themselves?

745
00:42:15.159 --> 00:42:18.320
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, well they Okay, I don't know if they have to.

746
00:42:18.480 --> 00:42:21.920
<v Speaker 4>Let's ask Kevin. Okay, hold on, Trish and we'll come

747
00:42:21.960 --> 00:42:27.480
<v Speaker 4>back to you. So, Kachina, I want you to call

748
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<v Speaker 4>Kevin Caulkin just if he has a comment on this,

749
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<v Speaker 4>since they do electrical work. They do electrical work at

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<v Speaker 4>Shared and Auto Tech. Steve, what is your issue with

751
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<v Speaker 4>Wells Fargo?

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<v Speaker 9>Steve, Hello, Tom, well boy. I bought a truck I

753
00:42:45.320 --> 00:42:49.880
<v Speaker 9>had fifteen years ago, and it was financed through Wells Fargo.

754
00:42:50.119 --> 00:42:54.719
<v Speaker 9>That's who they used at the time, local dealership. Over

755
00:42:54.719 --> 00:42:57.320
<v Speaker 9>a period of about another five or six years, I

756
00:42:57.400 --> 00:43:00.960
<v Speaker 9>kept getting these residual checks where they charged me for

757
00:43:01.079 --> 00:43:05.559
<v Speaker 9>insurance which wasn't necessarily they charged me wrong interest rate, whatever.

758
00:43:05.599 --> 00:43:07.639
<v Speaker 9>But it comes down to I got a letter in

759
00:43:07.639 --> 00:43:12.920
<v Speaker 9>the mail the other day David May seventh. David sent

760
00:43:13.000 --> 00:43:17.079
<v Speaker 9>out a cash heres check in April or April of

761
00:43:17.840 --> 00:43:21.199
<v Speaker 9>twenty twenty one. I never received it.

762
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<v Speaker 2>Now here's what I want to ask him. I'm a

763
00:43:24.039 --> 00:43:27.199
<v Speaker 2>little confused here. I'm a little confused, So help me out.

764
00:43:27.519 --> 00:43:29.840
<v Speaker 2>Did you buy your truck new fifteen years ago.

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<v Speaker 9>No, it was a youth truck at the local local

766
00:43:34.199 --> 00:43:34.880
<v Speaker 9>Dodge dealer.

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<v Speaker 4>Okay, And when you bought it fifteen years ago? How

768
00:43:38.840 --> 00:43:39.679
<v Speaker 4>long was your loan?

769
00:43:41.360 --> 00:43:45.280
<v Speaker 9>I believe it was a four year loan. Again, I

770
00:43:45.800 --> 00:43:49.000
<v Speaker 9>hardly remem mean I remember, I can't about it.

771
00:43:50.159 --> 00:43:53.360
<v Speaker 4>So you bought a truck fifteen years ago and took

772
00:43:53.400 --> 00:43:56.000
<v Speaker 4>out a four year loan and took out a four

773
00:43:56.079 --> 00:43:58.400
<v Speaker 4>year loan with Wells Fargo.

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00:43:59.400 --> 00:44:05.519
<v Speaker 2>Yes, and then what happened? Okay, I got it and

775
00:44:05.559 --> 00:44:06.760
<v Speaker 2>then you paid it off?

776
00:44:07.199 --> 00:44:08.039
<v Speaker 9>You I paid it off.

777
00:44:08.079 --> 00:44:10.159
<v Speaker 2>You paid it off, and then what you should be

778
00:44:10.199 --> 00:44:11.039
<v Speaker 2>done with? And then what?

779
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<v Speaker 9>Well, that's right? But then I kept getting these letters

780
00:44:14.679 --> 00:44:17.199
<v Speaker 9>of checks in the mail, the one.

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<v Speaker 4>Okay, but how long after hold on, Steve, after you

782
00:44:21.320 --> 00:44:24.679
<v Speaker 4>paid off your truck, you paid off your truck, roughly

783
00:44:24.760 --> 00:44:28.960
<v Speaker 4>ten years ago. After you paid off your truck, when

784
00:44:29.000 --> 00:44:31.920
<v Speaker 4>did you start receiving those checks?

785
00:44:32.440 --> 00:44:36.280
<v Speaker 9>I would say within three to four months? And again,

786
00:44:36.360 --> 00:44:41.000
<v Speaker 9>the last one was issued on April. I'm sorry, August thirtieth,

787
00:44:41.159 --> 00:44:43.199
<v Speaker 9>twenty twenty one. I was supposed to the last, the

788
00:44:43.239 --> 00:44:45.320
<v Speaker 9>one I'm worried about.

789
00:44:46.599 --> 00:44:48.960
<v Speaker 2>And what were they called refund checks?

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00:44:49.679 --> 00:44:53.679
<v Speaker 9>Well, there's little letters that we had miscapculated the interest?

791
00:44:53.920 --> 00:44:56.480
<v Speaker 9>Was I one of them? As I remember, they overcharged

792
00:44:56.519 --> 00:44:59.000
<v Speaker 9>me interest or something because when I paid it off,

793
00:44:59.039 --> 00:45:01.400
<v Speaker 9>I paid it full before loans.

794
00:45:01.840 --> 00:45:04.159
<v Speaker 2>Well, there was a class action lawsuit?

795
00:45:04.559 --> 00:45:06.920
<v Speaker 4>Did they mention this was in payment of a class

796
00:45:06.960 --> 00:45:08.920
<v Speaker 4>action lawsuit that you may have been part of?

797
00:45:09.840 --> 00:45:10.039
<v Speaker 2>Oh?

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00:45:10.159 --> 00:45:14.239
<v Speaker 9>I don't remember. I do remember kell was for insurance

799
00:45:14.320 --> 00:45:16.639
<v Speaker 9>because I had insurance on the vehicle. But they went

800
00:45:16.679 --> 00:45:18.800
<v Speaker 9>ahead and charged me insurance anyway.

801
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<v Speaker 4>All right, Okay, Now what I want to know is

802
00:45:22.400 --> 00:45:25.079
<v Speaker 4>this is Jay, How much were those checks each one?

803
00:45:25.559 --> 00:45:25.679
<v Speaker 1>Like?

804
00:45:25.719 --> 00:45:29.360
<v Speaker 2>Were they for one thousand bucks? Two hundred?

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<v Speaker 9>I think the highest one was the two or three

806
00:45:32.280 --> 00:45:35.039
<v Speaker 9>hundred dollars for the insurance. All the others were like

807
00:45:35.159 --> 00:45:39.000
<v Speaker 9>fifty thirty five, twenty five. They're just very small.

808
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<v Speaker 2>Okay, got it? Okay? And now why are you concerned

809
00:45:44.079 --> 00:45:44.679
<v Speaker 2>if the check?

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00:45:45.440 --> 00:45:48.039
<v Speaker 4>First of all, you bought the truck, you paid it off.

811
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<v Speaker 4>Why are you concerned that the check stopped?

812
00:45:51.719 --> 00:45:52.039
<v Speaker 17>Okay?

813
00:45:52.039 --> 00:45:55.679
<v Speaker 9>No, No, not concerned the check stopped. I received a letter

814
00:45:56.320 --> 00:46:00.760
<v Speaker 9>on May seventh stating that on August thirty five, thirtieth,

815
00:46:00.800 --> 00:46:05.079
<v Speaker 9>twenty twenty one, I was issued a cash your's check

816
00:46:05.760 --> 00:46:08.639
<v Speaker 9>for some baby that's what was on what it was for?

817
00:46:09.440 --> 00:46:11.719
<v Speaker 9>And it was never been cashed? Well, I never got

818
00:46:11.719 --> 00:46:12.280
<v Speaker 9>the check.

819
00:46:12.199 --> 00:46:17.639
<v Speaker 4>Okay, so Steve, Wells Fargo called you and said you

820
00:46:17.760 --> 00:46:18.960
<v Speaker 4>never cashed the check.

821
00:46:19.639 --> 00:46:21.760
<v Speaker 9>Well, last year I got a letter from the Unclaimed

822
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<v Speaker 9>Property Department.

823
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<v Speaker 2>And are you positive it is from Wells Fargo the letter?

824
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<v Speaker 9>Oh absolutely. I spent an hour and a half at

825
00:46:32.119 --> 00:46:35.360
<v Speaker 9>Wells Fargo yesterday trying to get this straightened out, and

826
00:46:35.440 --> 00:46:36.679
<v Speaker 9>they they and how.

827
00:46:36.599 --> 00:46:37.519
<v Speaker 2>Much is the check for?

828
00:46:38.639 --> 00:46:39.320
<v Speaker 9>It was? Fact?

829
00:46:39.519 --> 00:46:40.119
<v Speaker 2>How much is it?

830
00:46:40.239 --> 00:46:42.960
<v Speaker 9>Four dollars and sixty two thirty one dollars and sixty

831
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<v Speaker 9>two cents.

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00:46:45.079 --> 00:46:47.760
<v Speaker 2>That's what we're chasing right now. Thirty one bucks.

833
00:46:48.119 --> 00:46:54.480
<v Speaker 4>Yes, So this whole thing you're going through is to

834
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<v Speaker 4>get a check for thirty one dollars cashed.

835
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<v Speaker 9>Well know, yeah, I mean I just I went to

836
00:47:01.840 --> 00:47:04.679
<v Speaker 9>the bank and I explained something on this letter.

837
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<v Speaker 4>What was it for? Why did Phil's Fargo? Why did

838
00:47:12.119 --> 00:47:14.079
<v Speaker 4>they issue this thirty one dollar check?

839
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<v Speaker 9>I have no idea again that is this issued four

840
00:47:17.760 --> 00:47:18.280
<v Speaker 9>years ago.

841
00:47:19.719 --> 00:47:22.000
<v Speaker 4>I don't mean I'm not making fun of you or anything, Seve,

842
00:47:22.400 --> 00:47:25.679
<v Speaker 4>but how important is it that you get this thirty

843
00:47:25.719 --> 00:47:26.639
<v Speaker 4>one dollars?

844
00:47:26.920 --> 00:47:30.679
<v Speaker 9>Oh, it's not that important. It's just that I followed

845
00:47:30.679 --> 00:47:34.639
<v Speaker 9>their rules. Okay, honestly, hey, I just go down, like

846
00:47:34.719 --> 00:47:37.039
<v Speaker 9>the letter said, do what I need to do and

847
00:47:37.119 --> 00:47:38.960
<v Speaker 9>get it. And that's when it turned into this hour

848
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<v Speaker 9>and a half fiasco.

849
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<v Speaker 2>And all you want to know is where did the

850
00:47:45.000 --> 00:47:45.519
<v Speaker 2>check go?

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00:47:46.559 --> 00:47:50.039
<v Speaker 9>No, if I can read you something on this letter,

852
00:47:50.320 --> 00:47:55.360
<v Speaker 9>it might help it. Go ahead, read it. Okay, there's

853
00:47:55.400 --> 00:47:57.159
<v Speaker 9>a thing that says what you need to do? What

854
00:47:57.239 --> 00:47:59.320
<v Speaker 9>do I need to do? The one that says is,

855
00:47:59.440 --> 00:48:03.199
<v Speaker 9>you know on have the cashiers checking your possession, bring

856
00:48:03.199 --> 00:48:06.440
<v Speaker 9>this letter to your nearest Wells Fargo branch to place

857
00:48:06.480 --> 00:48:09.039
<v Speaker 9>the stop payment on the item and claim the funds.

858
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<v Speaker 9>So that's all I did. I just drove down to

859
00:48:11.920 --> 00:48:13.719
<v Speaker 9>the bank and figured out give them this letter and no,

860
00:48:13.880 --> 00:48:16.320
<v Speaker 9>give me the funds and I'll be done. Well, now

861
00:48:16.320 --> 00:48:18.480
<v Speaker 9>they're saying that they can't do what this letter. They

862
00:48:18.519 --> 00:48:21.039
<v Speaker 9>cannot issue the funds even though the letter says they can,

863
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<v Speaker 9>they won't do it.

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<v Speaker 2>At Charles, And what reason do they What reason do

865
00:48:27.719 --> 00:48:30.480
<v Speaker 2>they give that they can just give you the money?

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00:48:30.519 --> 00:48:33.039
<v Speaker 9>Said that they just they're not allowed to. Well, one

867
00:48:33.079 --> 00:48:34.760
<v Speaker 9>of the things they said, they're not allowed to issue

868
00:48:34.760 --> 00:48:37.360
<v Speaker 9>a cashiers check to anybody who does not have an

869
00:48:37.360 --> 00:48:43.679
<v Speaker 9>account with them.

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<v Speaker 2>And they what is the thirty for?

871
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<v Speaker 9>I have no idea. It's just I say the check again.

872
00:48:47.760 --> 00:48:50.800
<v Speaker 9>I got these regidual checks that were usually for maybe

873
00:48:50.800 --> 00:48:53.719
<v Speaker 9>the class option. I don't know. I have no idea

874
00:48:53.719 --> 00:48:56.039
<v Speaker 9>what this one was for because I never received it.

875
00:48:56.119 --> 00:48:58.320
<v Speaker 2>So let me let me ask you this again.

876
00:48:58.519 --> 00:49:00.679
<v Speaker 4>I mean, I don't mind helping you a little here,

877
00:49:00.719 --> 00:49:02.400
<v Speaker 4>but it's thirty one dollars?

878
00:49:02.719 --> 00:49:07.159
<v Speaker 2>How how if you just forgot about it? How would it.

879
00:49:07.159 --> 00:49:09.760
<v Speaker 4>Change your life if you just said, you know what,

880
00:49:09.920 --> 00:49:11.280
<v Speaker 4>this is not worth the hassle?

881
00:49:11.960 --> 00:49:15.000
<v Speaker 2>Okay, you're just it's just kind of curious.

882
00:49:15.599 --> 00:49:15.760
<v Speaker 1>Bo.

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00:49:15.920 --> 00:49:18.199
<v Speaker 2>Did I hear you chiming in or somebody? No? This

884
00:49:18.280 --> 00:49:22.079
<v Speaker 2>is dollar Charles. Have you tried a dollar? Go ahead?

885
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<v Speaker 9>Oh?

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00:49:22.480 --> 00:49:25.039
<v Speaker 3>I'm sorry, Steve, Have you tried checking with a great

887
00:49:25.039 --> 00:49:26.480
<v Speaker 3>Colorado payback.

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00:49:27.880 --> 00:49:29.920
<v Speaker 9>Chack? That was going to be my next thing, but

889
00:49:30.000 --> 00:49:33.639
<v Speaker 9>apparently I have till June twenty. First you get to

890
00:49:33.719 --> 00:49:37.519
<v Speaker 9>settled through Wells Fargo. Then they said it'll be translated

891
00:49:37.559 --> 00:49:41.920
<v Speaker 9>to state known as achievement. If I'm pronouncing that right's.

892
00:49:41.599 --> 00:49:47.599
<v Speaker 2>Corrects cheap cheap funds. In fact, yes, I think that

893
00:49:47.679 --> 00:49:49.000
<v Speaker 2>would be easier to deal with.

894
00:49:49.400 --> 00:49:52.559
<v Speaker 4>It's easier to deal with the escheat Funds than it

895
00:49:52.639 --> 00:49:55.800
<v Speaker 4>is the bank. Once it goes to the state Treasurer

896
00:49:56.679 --> 00:50:00.400
<v Speaker 4>as an unclaimed fund, you can do it all online.

897
00:50:00.840 --> 00:50:04.079
<v Speaker 2>They're very easy to deal with. I would let it

898
00:50:04.159 --> 00:50:04.519
<v Speaker 2>go to.

899
00:50:04.519 --> 00:50:07.679
<v Speaker 4>The Eschiet Funds because here's what they're doing right now.

900
00:50:08.000 --> 00:50:10.679
<v Speaker 4>They don't know where the check is and they're going

901
00:50:10.760 --> 00:50:11.920
<v Speaker 4>to stop payment on it.

902
00:50:13.440 --> 00:50:14.039
<v Speaker 2>But they're going to.

903
00:50:14.159 --> 00:50:15.880
<v Speaker 4>But I don't know why they don't just do it

904
00:50:15.920 --> 00:50:18.719
<v Speaker 4>for you. I really don't seeve I who knows what

905
00:50:18.800 --> 00:50:21.000
<v Speaker 4>the hell I tell them?

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<v Speaker 9>I hate to use the old ciche. It's the principle

907
00:50:23.480 --> 00:50:26.039
<v Speaker 9>of a thing that you know I did. I followed

908
00:50:26.079 --> 00:50:29.239
<v Speaker 9>their their rules, their laws, their policy, whatever you want

909
00:50:29.239 --> 00:50:31.599
<v Speaker 9>to call it, to the letter, and they're refusing to

910
00:50:31.760 --> 00:50:35.039
<v Speaker 9>honor it. So that's a big thing.

911
00:50:35.159 --> 00:50:35.519
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I know.

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00:50:37.239 --> 00:50:40.519
<v Speaker 4>I would like if you could, could you give us

913
00:50:40.519 --> 00:50:44.840
<v Speaker 4>a copy of that letter that says, if you don't

914
00:50:44.880 --> 00:50:48.119
<v Speaker 4>have it, take this letter to a nearby bank.

915
00:50:48.280 --> 00:50:49.239
<v Speaker 2>Do you have that letter?

916
00:50:50.039 --> 00:50:52.880
<v Speaker 9>Yeah? I took them. I took it on my cell phone,

917
00:50:52.920 --> 00:50:58.519
<v Speaker 9>so but they're eligible. I'm tay readable. So uh where

918
00:50:58.519 --> 00:51:00.000
<v Speaker 9>do I where do I want me to sound?

919
00:51:00.840 --> 00:51:03.639
<v Speaker 4>I'm gonna put you on hold and tell you and

920
00:51:03.760 --> 00:51:07.079
<v Speaker 4>Deputy Dollar Dollar, I'd like you to call the bank

921
00:51:07.159 --> 00:51:09.880
<v Speaker 4>and simply ask them why won't they honor it?

922
00:51:10.800 --> 00:51:14.599
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, okay, it's their check. It makes no sense at all.

923
00:51:14.639 --> 00:51:17.519
<v Speaker 4>There's I mean, it's ridiculous and this guy is running

924
00:51:17.519 --> 00:51:20.320
<v Speaker 4>around for thirty one bucks. Hold on, bro, I gotta

925
00:51:20.360 --> 00:51:23.079
<v Speaker 4>take a break, all right? Three oh three seven to

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<v Speaker 4>one three talk seven one three eight two five five.

927
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<v Speaker 4>You heard me talk about fix at twenty four to seven.

928
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<v Speaker 4>And there's a reason they're into preventive care. That's what

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<v Speaker 4>they do for thirty nine bucks.

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<v Speaker 2>Get your ac deep cleaned of debris and dirt, the

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<v Speaker 2>number one killer of aces, and they'll make sure there's

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<v Speaker 2>a no breakdown guarantee through the entire cooling season. Now

933
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<v Speaker 2>they dismantle this ac and clean each and every crack

934
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<v Speaker 2>and crevice. That's fix At twenty four to seven. Now

935
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<v Speaker 2>you can also have a sumpump done for forty nine bucks.

936
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<v Speaker 2>So it's fixmihome dot com book.

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<v Speaker 5>You don't pay a cent until you're content.

940
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<v Speaker 2>Time for an insurance check.

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<v Speaker 4>think you're his only customer when you choose Frank durand

945
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<v Speaker 4>the real estate Man dot com to list your home

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<v Speaker 4>with Remax Alliance three oh three nine two zero sixteen

947
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<v Speaker 4>twenty two. Hi Tom Rchino, you're troubleshooter three O three

948
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<v Speaker 4>seven one three talk seven one three eight two five five.

949
00:52:49.280 --> 00:52:52.599
<v Speaker 2>So what are we gonna do? Kevin Callkin is with.

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<v Speaker 4>Us, our auto expert at Shardanauto tech dot com. Kevin,

951
00:52:58.119 --> 00:53:04.519
<v Speaker 4>she had a radio Trisha installed at car Toys. It's

952
00:53:04.559 --> 00:53:08.800
<v Speaker 4>a new radio. I assume it was replacing one, right.

953
00:53:08.639 --> 00:53:11.519
<v Speaker 9>Tricia, That's correct, ye.

954
00:53:13.519 --> 00:53:19.519
<v Speaker 4>And she's driving home after installation and her hood pops

955
00:53:19.559 --> 00:53:24.480
<v Speaker 4>open on the highway within fifteen minutes. That sounds like

956
00:53:24.519 --> 00:53:28.280
<v Speaker 4>too much of a coincidence, but they tell her, Tricia,

957
00:53:28.559 --> 00:53:32.559
<v Speaker 4>we never opened your hood or touched your hood to

958
00:53:32.679 --> 00:53:35.960
<v Speaker 4>install the radio. And I'd like to know from you

959
00:53:36.079 --> 00:53:38.079
<v Speaker 4>is that would that be normal?

960
00:53:39.800 --> 00:53:39.960
<v Speaker 11>Now?

961
00:53:40.000 --> 00:53:42.199
<v Speaker 18>Because typically you're going to access the battery or some

962
00:53:42.320 --> 00:53:45.679
<v Speaker 18>sort of a power source and fuses or something depending

963
00:53:45.679 --> 00:53:46.159
<v Speaker 18>on the car.

964
00:53:46.239 --> 00:53:49.480
<v Speaker 9>But yeah, no, I disagree. I think they definitely have

965
00:53:49.559 --> 00:53:50.079
<v Speaker 9>the hood open.

966
00:53:50.280 --> 00:53:58.920
<v Speaker 4>Yes, uh huh, so, Tricia, he's on your side. Okay,

967
00:53:59.400 --> 00:54:01.599
<v Speaker 4>that's going to be good. That's gonna be good for

968
00:54:01.679 --> 00:54:04.599
<v Speaker 4>small claims court. If you go to small claims court,

969
00:54:06.239 --> 00:54:09.679
<v Speaker 4>you're gonna have to make the case that they had

970
00:54:09.719 --> 00:54:12.440
<v Speaker 4>the hood open. They never closed it. You never had

971
00:54:12.440 --> 00:54:16.800
<v Speaker 4>a problem with your hood before. But I mean, that's

972
00:54:16.840 --> 00:54:20.039
<v Speaker 4>all you can do. And they're gonna deny it. And

973
00:54:20.199 --> 00:54:23.639
<v Speaker 4>they say they have videotape, Kevin, They say they have

974
00:54:23.760 --> 00:54:25.480
<v Speaker 4>tape of it closed the whole time.

975
00:54:26.119 --> 00:54:31.519
<v Speaker 18>Okay, Well, I'd like to know they had to apply

976
00:54:31.639 --> 00:54:32.599
<v Speaker 18>power from somewhere.

977
00:54:34.000 --> 00:54:37.079
<v Speaker 4>Can't they tap into the existing Okay, if there's a

978
00:54:37.119 --> 00:54:40.480
<v Speaker 4>fuse panel in the cabin, can't they access the fuse

979
00:54:40.519 --> 00:54:42.159
<v Speaker 4>panel without going to the battery.

980
00:54:43.119 --> 00:54:45.400
<v Speaker 18>Yeah, most of the fuse panels are under the hood anymore.

981
00:54:45.440 --> 00:54:55.119
<v Speaker 2>Though, what year is this car, Trish?

982
00:54:55.239 --> 00:54:57.360
<v Speaker 9>It may not be. Yeah, it's an older one.

983
00:54:58.960 --> 00:55:01.519
<v Speaker 4>So it might be in the in the what you know, what,

984
00:55:01.920 --> 00:55:05.719
<v Speaker 4>can you drive your car, Trish?

985
00:55:05.760 --> 00:55:08.760
<v Speaker 12>I can, but I cannot take highways or any like

986
00:55:09.440 --> 00:55:11.400
<v Speaker 12>roads that go over fifty miles an hour.

987
00:55:12.800 --> 00:55:13.960
<v Speaker 2>What part of town are you in?

988
00:55:16.440 --> 00:55:19.400
<v Speaker 12>I mean edge Water by Flown's Lake, but I actually work.

989
00:55:19.239 --> 00:55:22.239
<v Speaker 16>In Littleton, Okay.

990
00:55:23.280 --> 00:55:25.920
<v Speaker 4>I wonder if you could drive by one day to

991
00:55:26.000 --> 00:55:30.440
<v Speaker 4>share it in auto tech and simply have them eyeball

992
00:55:30.480 --> 00:55:33.559
<v Speaker 4>it and they can tell in a heartbeat whether or

993
00:55:33.639 --> 00:55:37.119
<v Speaker 4>not they had to up in the hood. Sure they

994
00:55:37.480 --> 00:55:39.440
<v Speaker 4>they can tell by looking at it. It will only

995
00:55:39.480 --> 00:55:45.280
<v Speaker 4>take a few minutes. So I'll have Katschina hook you

996
00:55:45.400 --> 00:55:49.079
<v Speaker 4>up with Shardan Auto Tech for a quick, free inspection.

997
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<v Speaker 4>And that's Shardan Auto Tech dot com three oh three,

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<v Speaker 4>four five, five seventy two forty two. I think that's

999
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<v Speaker 4>the best thing we can do at this point, Kevin.

1000
00:56:01.079 --> 00:56:04.119
<v Speaker 4>Do people disconnect batteries when they work on electrical or

1001
00:56:04.159 --> 00:56:04.800
<v Speaker 4>not anymore?

1002
00:56:05.320 --> 00:56:06.199
<v Speaker 9>A lot? You should?

1003
00:56:06.360 --> 00:56:08.079
<v Speaker 18>I mean you should when you're doing that, because you

1004
00:56:08.119 --> 00:56:10.360
<v Speaker 18>can have volta spikes of all kinds when you have

1005
00:56:10.440 --> 00:56:13.599
<v Speaker 18>wires accessed and everything else. So that's the first thing

1006
00:56:13.639 --> 00:56:15.960
<v Speaker 18>we do, is to disconnect the battery.

1007
00:56:16.679 --> 00:56:20.519
<v Speaker 2>Really, and do you just connect the negative or the positive? Oh?

1008
00:56:20.599 --> 00:56:20.960
<v Speaker 18>Either one?

1009
00:56:21.039 --> 00:56:21.719
<v Speaker 9>Whatever is? It is?

1010
00:56:21.760 --> 00:56:25.039
<v Speaker 18>Typically the negative, you know, just so we don't, okay.

1011
00:56:24.880 --> 00:56:25.519
<v Speaker 9>Leave the circuit.

1012
00:56:25.800 --> 00:56:34.880
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, okay, So Chris, he's on He's on Colfax west

1013
00:56:34.880 --> 00:56:39.119
<v Speaker 4>of Wadsworth and you'll find it easily if you go

1014
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<v Speaker 4>to share it in autotech dot com.

1015
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<v Speaker 2>Thank you, Kevin. I think more and more people.

1016
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<v Speaker 4>I mean, first of all, it's very easy. You're working

1017
00:56:47.039 --> 00:56:49.440
<v Speaker 4>under the hood. You close it, it doesn't really latch,

1018
00:56:49.880 --> 00:56:52.559
<v Speaker 4>and then those safety latches are supposed to hold it.

1019
00:56:52.800 --> 00:56:56.119
<v Speaker 4>But if you get highway winds underneath that, there's the

1020
00:56:56.199 --> 00:56:58.280
<v Speaker 4>possibility you're going to blow it open, right keV.

1021
00:56:59.000 --> 00:57:02.679
<v Speaker 18>Sure, absolutely, and things happen. I mean, people make mistakes.

1022
00:57:02.719 --> 00:57:05.880
<v Speaker 18>It's not uncommon and not unheard of us. So yeah, absolutely.

1023
00:57:07.199 --> 00:57:09.480
<v Speaker 4>But they were quick to say they had a videotape.

1024
00:57:09.480 --> 00:57:14.280
<v Speaker 4>I'd love to see it I had. Yeah, So thanks keV.

1025
00:57:14.559 --> 00:57:17.079
<v Speaker 4>Let's do that first church before we do anything else.

1026
00:57:17.400 --> 00:57:19.760
<v Speaker 4>Let's let Kevin take a look at it, see what

1027
00:57:19.840 --> 00:57:23.039
<v Speaker 4>he says, and then we'll contact car toys for you

1028
00:57:23.360 --> 00:57:25.880
<v Speaker 4>before you go to small claims court. I think you're

1029
00:57:25.880 --> 00:57:28.519
<v Speaker 4>gonna win, though, as I said, there's no such thing

1030
00:57:28.519 --> 00:57:32.360
<v Speaker 4>as coincidences. Three oh three seven to one three talk

1031
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<v Speaker 4>seven one three eight two five five.

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<v Speaker 2>We have open lines.

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<v Speaker 5>You don't pay a cent until you're content.

1046
00:58:28.920 --> 00:58:32.119
<v Speaker 4>Time for an insurance check up free no obligation comparison

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<v Speaker 4>call Compass Insurance paying too much your coverage at dozens

1048
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<v Speaker 4>of insurance companies find out now three all three seven

1049
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<v Speaker 4>to seven to one help. You'll think you're his only

1050
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<v Speaker 4>customer when you choose Frank durand the real estate Man

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<v Speaker 4>dot com to list your home with Remax Alliance three

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<v Speaker 4>all three nine two zero sixteen twenty two.

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<v Speaker 2>Hi Tom Martino here three oh three seven one three

1054
00:58:55.199 --> 00:58:58.639
<v Speaker 2>talks seven one three two five five Hey Steve is

1055
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<v Speaker 2>with a Steve Moss.

1056
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<v Speaker 4>He's the one I wrote our theme song. He also

1057
00:59:02.119 --> 00:59:04.000
<v Speaker 4>writes a lot of jingles around town. He's in the

1058
00:59:04.039 --> 00:59:04.800
<v Speaker 4>media business.

1059
00:59:05.239 --> 00:59:10.519
<v Speaker 2>He also has a brewery. You know, he's a micro brewer.

1060
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<v Speaker 4>I think they call it where you know, small batches,

1061
00:59:14.199 --> 00:59:17.400
<v Speaker 4>and his beer is getting very popular. You know, Steve,

1062
00:59:18.320 --> 00:59:20.920
<v Speaker 4>at what point do you no longer become a micro brewer?

1063
00:59:20.960 --> 00:59:22.920
<v Speaker 2>How many what do you have to produce to be

1064
00:59:22.960 --> 00:59:23.840
<v Speaker 2>a regular brewer.

1065
00:59:25.840 --> 00:59:30.360
<v Speaker 17>That's I think just a common term. Micro brewery actually

1066
00:59:30.400 --> 00:59:33.920
<v Speaker 17>refers to when you just distribute. A brew pub would

1067
00:59:33.920 --> 00:59:36.280
<v Speaker 17>be more of where somebody comes there and drives your

1068
00:59:36.280 --> 00:59:38.880
<v Speaker 17>beer and they have a you know, a casting room.

1069
00:59:39.159 --> 00:59:43.000
<v Speaker 17>We have a chasting license, so ours is in a

1070
00:59:43.000 --> 00:59:45.679
<v Speaker 17>beer garden. You're not allowed to go in the building,

1071
00:59:45.679 --> 00:59:49.119
<v Speaker 17>but you can see the brewery. It's not compliant yet,

1072
00:59:49.480 --> 00:59:52.719
<v Speaker 17>but it's it's really really nice. Actually it's turning out

1073
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<v Speaker 17>super good. This will be our fourth weekend coming up

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<v Speaker 17>and we're doing beer bags and barbecue.

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<v Speaker 2>And you go go to Rockyear, what beer bags?

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<v Speaker 17>It's beer bags and barbecue, corn hole tournament.

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<v Speaker 9>So it's okay, I'm giving away.

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<v Speaker 17>You're not gonna believe what I'm giving away because I

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<v Speaker 17>want to get people to come here that we've been

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<v Speaker 17>having a return customers. It's a cornwall tournament and it's

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01:00:21.079 --> 01:00:23.039
<v Speaker 17>going to be just fun. It's not like you know,

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<v Speaker 17>serious where people are coming here. But you can win

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01:00:25.719 --> 01:00:28.559
<v Speaker 17>five hundred dollars. If we sell out, we'll have enough

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<v Speaker 17>prize money for the first first place to be five

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<v Speaker 17>hundred dollars and third place would be one hundred dollars,

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<v Speaker 17>second place to be two hundred dollars. But I'm going

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<v Speaker 17>to offer something for your audience only if they register

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<v Speaker 17>for this on rocknroll Dot Beer and go to the

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01:00:49.599 --> 01:00:52.599
<v Speaker 17>you know, register for the seventy five dollars, but you

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01:00:52.719 --> 01:00:55.599
<v Speaker 17>get the seventy five dollars, You get admission to the tournament,

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<v Speaker 17>You get Famous Stays catered barbecue, a complete meal, not

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01:01:00.440 --> 01:01:05.440
<v Speaker 17>just a sandwich, and you get a VIP NASCAR ticket

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01:01:05.480 --> 01:01:07.079
<v Speaker 17>to Colorado National Steaedway.

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01:01:07.679 --> 01:01:08.920
<v Speaker 9>Plus you get a free beer.

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<v Speaker 17>And with your audience, if the next five people that register,

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<v Speaker 17>I will also give them a Rock and Roll bery hat,

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<v Speaker 17>really nice embroidered.

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<v Speaker 9>Hat with our logo on the hat.

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<v Speaker 4>Now, and that's what is a beer for those of us.

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01:01:29.480 --> 01:01:32.719
<v Speaker 4>For those of us that are not hip. What is

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<v Speaker 4>a beer garden?

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<v Speaker 17>It's basically, it's really really nice. We have seating for everyone,

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01:01:40.119 --> 01:01:42.920
<v Speaker 17>really nice umbrellas. When it gets stark, we have a

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01:01:43.039 --> 01:01:45.480
<v Speaker 17>you know, lighting for it and everything. But it's it's

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01:01:45.599 --> 01:01:49.119
<v Speaker 17>really a nice area. We have corner hole games obviously,

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01:01:49.599 --> 01:01:53.519
<v Speaker 17>we have other games that you know, you can play,

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01:01:54.000 --> 01:02:00.119
<v Speaker 17>and it's just a really nice enclosed privacy fence a

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01:02:00.199 --> 01:02:03.400
<v Speaker 17>brewery situation. We have Harley's on display.

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<v Speaker 9>Man.

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<v Speaker 17>It's just it's really cool. You have to kind of

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<v Speaker 17>come here to see how cool it is. With sixteen beers,

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01:02:10.039 --> 01:02:13.079
<v Speaker 17>craft beers to choose from. I mean that's unheard of

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<v Speaker 17>for a small brewery. We're only a seven barrel brewery.

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<v Speaker 17>We have sixteen beers, anything from blacks to stout, you know,

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01:02:20.519 --> 01:02:26.360
<v Speaker 17>chocolate stout to you know, laggers, pilsners, flavored beers like

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01:02:26.480 --> 01:02:33.320
<v Speaker 17>mango beer, lemon, wheat, blood orange, we have some with

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01:02:33.480 --> 01:02:37.840
<v Speaker 17>plumb in it. We have you know, it's nothing but

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01:02:37.920 --> 01:02:38.960
<v Speaker 17>good reviews.

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<v Speaker 2>When people come here, they and how do people find

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<v Speaker 2>out more?

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<v Speaker 17>Rock and roll dot Beer dot com rock and Roll

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01:02:50.400 --> 01:02:53.320
<v Speaker 17>dot Beer. Go to the appointment page and you can

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01:02:53.920 --> 01:02:56.000
<v Speaker 17>make an appointment of beer Garden. You don't have to

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01:02:56.039 --> 01:02:58.800
<v Speaker 17>make an apployment, but it's wise to do that.

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<v Speaker 9>We have a limited space.

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01:03:00.360 --> 01:03:04.760
<v Speaker 17>But join the tournament. Just go to the appointment page

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01:03:04.840 --> 01:03:08.320
<v Speaker 17>or actually the homepage. It'll point you right to joining

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01:03:08.719 --> 01:03:12.239
<v Speaker 17>and seventy five dollars gets you about seventy five dollars

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<v Speaker 17>worth of stuff, plus you have a fun day of

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01:03:17.480 --> 01:03:19.199
<v Speaker 17>born Hall and he can win some money.

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<v Speaker 2>Hey didn't Mark and Sussan drop in on your garden?

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01:03:26.119 --> 01:03:30.400
<v Speaker 17>Yeah? Mark, What did you say, Tom?

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01:03:30.480 --> 01:03:32.760
<v Speaker 4>Yeah didn't they? I thought I thought he did a

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<v Speaker 4>YouTube video from there.

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<v Speaker 9>Yes he did.

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<v Speaker 17>They went there and they tried, you know, some different

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01:03:38.480 --> 01:03:40.559
<v Speaker 17>various They love them, and they.

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01:03:40.559 --> 01:03:41.639
<v Speaker 11>Go to a lot of brewery's.

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<v Speaker 17>But I'm going to tell you I have people coming

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01:03:43.719 --> 01:03:48.519
<v Speaker 17>here from brewing associations from very far away in Colorado

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01:03:48.960 --> 01:03:53.880
<v Speaker 17>across the you know, in Grand Junction, Colorado Springs, Pueblo,

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01:03:54.679 --> 01:03:57.519
<v Speaker 17>way up north, and you know, they get into this

1143
01:03:57.599 --> 01:03:59.920
<v Speaker 17>and they always want to try a different bury. It's

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01:04:00.199 --> 01:04:03.760
<v Speaker 17>nothing but good reviews. I've been doing it since nineteen Steve,

1145
01:04:04.360 --> 01:04:06.000
<v Speaker 17>I mean, so, Steve, do they.

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01:04:05.920 --> 01:04:09.119
<v Speaker 4>Have national contests where you can enter your beers?

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01:04:10.400 --> 01:04:12.719
<v Speaker 17>They do. I just don't get in the pat anymore,

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01:04:12.760 --> 01:04:14.440
<v Speaker 17>you know, The only thing I care about is what

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01:04:14.480 --> 01:04:18.159
<v Speaker 17>my customers like. That's what I like, you know, I mean,

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01:04:18.199 --> 01:04:20.880
<v Speaker 17>I used to do that stuff. I do have many

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01:04:20.920 --> 01:04:24.679
<v Speaker 17>awards dating back to the eighties and nineties. I'm written

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01:04:24.760 --> 01:04:29.400
<v Speaker 17>up in Michael Jackson's book Touring the United States. He's

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01:04:29.480 --> 01:04:34.320
<v Speaker 17>a beer expert from England, and you.

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<v Speaker 9>Know, so I have a pretty good history here, all right.

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01:04:39.599 --> 01:04:44.719
<v Speaker 4>Steve Moss rockn Roll dot Beer. He's also a pretty

1156
01:04:44.719 --> 01:04:49.719
<v Speaker 4>fun composer. People have heard his jingles and they're all

1157
01:04:49.760 --> 01:04:53.800
<v Speaker 4>over the radio and TV stations. So Steve, we really

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01:04:53.840 --> 01:04:56.679
<v Speaker 4>appreciate it. And I'm going to drop in one day,

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01:04:57.000 --> 01:05:00.679
<v Speaker 4>and I want to make that literally drop in when

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01:05:00.679 --> 01:05:03.239
<v Speaker 4>I can. I'm gonna get back on my feet, have

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01:05:04.039 --> 01:05:06.679
<v Speaker 4>helicopter good.

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<v Speaker 2>On my feet.

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<v Speaker 4>I got to earn my medical back after this hillacious surgery,

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<v Speaker 4>and I will absolutely drop in. So thank you very much, Steve,

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01:05:18.960 --> 01:05:22.519
<v Speaker 4>appreciate it. Three oh three seven one three talk three

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<v Speaker 4>o three seven one three eight two five five. I

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<v Speaker 4>think of some flavors you'd like to see. He's got

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<v Speaker 4>all kinds of weird flavors. I wonder if he's ever

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<v Speaker 4>done watermelon beer. Hey, Steve, have you ever done a

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<v Speaker 4>watermelon base. Oh did he hang out?

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<v Speaker 2>Did he leave? If he did, I'm wondering what durn

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<v Speaker 2>she does a lot of really interesting flavors. I'm wondering

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<v Speaker 2>if anyone's like I'm Tom Martinez. We have more coming

1174
01:05:47.519 --> 01:05:48.760
<v Speaker 2>up on the Troubleshooter Show.

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<v Speaker 4>seven to one help. You'll think you're his only customer

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<v Speaker 4>com to list your home with Remax Alliance three oh

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<v Speaker 4>three nine two zero sixteen twenty two.

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<v Speaker 9>Yeah, Ritt.

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<v Speaker 1>News. So you don't have come run anxious as fast

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<v Speaker 1>as you can.

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<v Speaker 2>Shooter's gonna help.

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<v Speaker 1>Come man, This is.

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<v Speaker 3>The Troubleshooter Show.

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<v Speaker 4>Now, Tom Martino, Hi, Tom Martino here, this is the

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01:06:50.360 --> 01:06:54.639
<v Speaker 4>Troubleshooter Show. Thank you for being here, solving problems, answering questions,

1193
01:06:54.719 --> 01:06:57.679
<v Speaker 4>taking complaints, and making your life a little easier. That's

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01:06:57.679 --> 01:07:01.039
<v Speaker 4>what we do here and we'll we'll continue to do

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01:07:01.119 --> 01:07:02.880
<v Speaker 4>so all you have to do is give us a

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<v Speaker 4>call three oh three seven one three talk three oh

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01:07:05.840 --> 01:07:09.840
<v Speaker 4>three seven one three eight two five five. I have

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<v Speaker 4>some interesting text messages people are talking about and they

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<v Speaker 4>want to know about buying American. They say that they

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<v Speaker 4>see nothing cheaper about buying American and nothing to incentivize them,

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01:07:22.880 --> 01:07:26.800
<v Speaker 4>and they go buy the individual product, not by where

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<v Speaker 4>it's purchased. They don't use their dollars to vote politically.

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<v Speaker 4>When it comes to that, some people go so far

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<v Speaker 4>as to seek out American goods, but very few of

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01:07:38.039 --> 01:07:44.239
<v Speaker 4>them do. Very few people actually seek out American goods.

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<v Speaker 4>So what do you do? Do you buy American on purpose?

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01:07:50.599 --> 01:07:53.559
<v Speaker 4>Do you go out? If you had two products side

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<v Speaker 4>by side, would you pick the one made in America?

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<v Speaker 4>Is that a motivation to you? Because in recent surveys,

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01:08:02.559 --> 01:08:05.719
<v Speaker 4>there's been a study on what people do and.

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<v Speaker 2>How they buy and why they buy.

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<v Speaker 4>And much of it has to do with the reason

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<v Speaker 4>behind it. For example, buying American is hardly ever done.

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<v Speaker 4>According to the survey, people do not buy American for

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<v Speaker 4>environmental benefits. They don't now that doesn't mean there are

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01:08:28.319 --> 01:08:32.159
<v Speaker 4>no benefits. That doesn't mean that. It just means when

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<v Speaker 4>people go to buy American, what is their biggest motivation.

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<v Speaker 4>It's supporting American jobs. That's the number one reason people

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01:08:42.199 --> 01:08:47.079
<v Speaker 4>buy American. The second reason people buy American is to

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<v Speaker 4>strengthen the US economy. And when we say buy American,

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01:08:52.640 --> 01:08:56.680
<v Speaker 4>we're talking about things assembled final assembly in America or

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01:08:57.520 --> 01:09:02.159
<v Speaker 4>made in whole in America. The other reason is higher

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01:09:02.199 --> 01:09:07.359
<v Speaker 4>product quality. So the top three reasons people buy supporting

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01:09:07.399 --> 01:09:14.520
<v Speaker 4>American jobs, strengthening the US economy, or higher product quality.

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01:09:14.600 --> 01:09:18.920
<v Speaker 4>The last reason people buy American is for the environmental impact,

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01:09:19.359 --> 01:09:22.520
<v Speaker 4>and national security is pretty low as well.

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<v Speaker 2>No one believes that you have national security improvement simply

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<v Speaker 2>for buying American. Again, it's up to you what you

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01:09:30.920 --> 01:09:31.960
<v Speaker 2>buy and how you buy.

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<v Speaker 4>But I'm all for people buying the best product, and

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<v Speaker 4>I don't necessarily I don't necessarily track with those who

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<v Speaker 4>blindly buy American.

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<v Speaker 2>But again that's up to you. I have some texts

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01:09:50.119 --> 01:09:50.840
<v Speaker 2>that say.

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<v Speaker 4>That they find foreign made goods all the time of

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<v Speaker 4>better quality.

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<v Speaker 2>I would say that that's not true.

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<v Speaker 4>I have seen many many products come and go, and

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01:10:06.720 --> 01:10:11.920
<v Speaker 4>man Chinese products suck. If it's made in China, there's

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<v Speaker 4>a really good chance it sucks. And I'm telling you

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<v Speaker 4>I tried to give Chinese made products a chance one

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<v Speaker 4>time years ago.

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<v Speaker 2>God did this put a bad taste in my mouth.

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<v Speaker 2>I bought.

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<v Speaker 4>I was at the stock show, the National Western Stock Show,

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<v Speaker 4>looking at tractors, small to medium tractors, not large. They

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<v Speaker 4>were pretty large, but not like the you know, the big,

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<v Speaker 4>the big farms and ranches. We had a small horse

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01:10:39.359 --> 01:10:45.560
<v Speaker 4>operation and I'm looking at you know, John Deere. They're wonderful, Ford, Koboda,

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<v Speaker 4>different kinds of tractors, and Massey Ferguson was just starting

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<v Speaker 4>to a resurgence again. And then I saw this Chinese tractor.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't even remember the damn name, but it looked

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01:11:00.560 --> 01:11:05.079
<v Speaker 4>nice and it was way less expensive, so I bought it.

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<v Speaker 4>It was the worst purchase I think I have ever made,

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01:11:08.119 --> 01:11:11.439
<v Speaker 4>the worst purchase. You couldn't get parts for it, it

1256
01:11:12.279 --> 01:11:17.279
<v Speaker 4>broke down, it wasn't heavy duty enough. But man, did

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<v Speaker 4>it give a good impression for pricing. And again, if

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01:11:22.039 --> 01:11:25.159
<v Speaker 4>you go by pricing alone, you might get stung. But

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<v Speaker 4>I personally avoid Chinese products, and I really do.

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<v Speaker 2>I will not buy a product from China. Now I

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<v Speaker 2>shouldn't say that.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean there might be some plastic goods or certain

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<v Speaker 4>things I buy that might have been made in China.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm talking about anything technical or anything mechanical.

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<v Speaker 2>I do not buy Chinese.

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<v Speaker 4>There is just, in my opinion, there are inherent weaknesses.

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<v Speaker 4>Somebody says, here, I buy made in USA as often

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01:11:55.079 --> 01:12:00.479
<v Speaker 4>as possible, but our quality has taken a dive after

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<v Speaker 4>forty five years of drying of driving American forward. I'm

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<v Speaker 4>in a process of purchasing a Toyota because of the

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01:12:10.079 --> 01:12:14.600
<v Speaker 4>exceptional quality. Now Japanese cars, I will have to agree

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<v Speaker 4>they have superior quality a lot of those Japanese Toyota

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<v Speaker 4>cars that are made in America.

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<v Speaker 2>Depending on the vehicle.

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<v Speaker 4>Somebody else says, Tom, what about technology, I think Americans

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01:12:30.079 --> 01:12:31.359
<v Speaker 4>have the best technology.

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<v Speaker 2>That's my own opinion.

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<v Speaker 4>Now I've purchased foreign made goods, probably through American technology companies,

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01:12:38.520 --> 01:12:43.239
<v Speaker 4>but when it comes to technology, I think American products

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<v Speaker 4>are the best, or American companies.

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<v Speaker 2>I should say.

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<v Speaker 4>One thing that this texture says they're frustrated with is

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<v Speaker 4>they wish they could have American customer support. A lot

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<v Speaker 4>of customer support is offshore now I'll tell you I

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<v Speaker 4>get very very very frustrated, very frustrated with customer support,

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<v Speaker 4>and I'm going to admit this. I have an automatic,

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<v Speaker 4>uh what is it? An automatic prejudice when I hear

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<v Speaker 4>someone who's speaking and broken English or an accent for

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<v Speaker 4>customer service, and I have a complicated issue because you know,

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<v Speaker 4>I never call customer support for minor issues, so it's

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<v Speaker 4>always something weird, always, and to try to explain it

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<v Speaker 4>to someone that doesn't speak English gives me I'm not

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<v Speaker 4>saying this is true, I'm saying it gives me a

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<v Speaker 4>feeling they're not understanding it. So I try to break

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<v Speaker 4>it down very very basically and very easy, and then

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<v Speaker 4>that gives them the impression. I don't know what I'm

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<v Speaker 4>talking about, but I've had conversations that are really almost

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<v Speaker 4>comical with people on the other end of the phone

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<v Speaker 4>who don't you just can.

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<v Speaker 2>Swear to God they don't understand you.

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<v Speaker 4>And I don't think I've ever had a problem solved

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<v Speaker 4>by a foreigner in a call center. So I don't

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<v Speaker 4>mind people, obviously, I want everyone to work, but there

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<v Speaker 4>is just this language barrier that the worst place you

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<v Speaker 4>can have them is in a call center for technical information.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean it's hard enough explaining a problem to someone

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<v Speaker 4>who understands you, let alone trying to explain it to

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<v Speaker 4>someone who has trouble with the language. To begin with this,

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<v Speaker 4>I always wondered about.

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<v Speaker 7>Yes, I have two companies I can tell you about that.

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<v Speaker 7>I recently bought some stuff. One is Alligience. We bought

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<v Speaker 7>an American flag, which is made in America, not made.

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<v Speaker 2>Other one is weather Tech.

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<v Speaker 7>Well, yeah, which out uh fit the you know, your car,

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<v Speaker 7>the stuff that you I don't know right.

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<v Speaker 2>It's it's your floor mats and cargo mats and the

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<v Speaker 2>stuff in your trunk.

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<v Speaker 7>They do all of that, great company, both of which

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<v Speaker 7>are made in the US A completely and I was

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<v Speaker 7>fine with it. The pricing was great, yeah, and the

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<v Speaker 7>customer service was great. And I know what you're talking

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<v Speaker 7>about about outsourcing. But these companies, there are some that

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<v Speaker 7>still are.

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<v Speaker 2>Around that will take care of you. No, there are

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<v Speaker 2>there are, and I know that for example, when it

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<v Speaker 2>comes to appliances that that's a mixed bag.

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<v Speaker 4>There are some appliances made here. There are some headphones,

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<v Speaker 4>electronic stuff. I'm looking up some stuff here. But we

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<v Speaker 4>have over the years relegated a lot of our.

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<v Speaker 2>Manufacturing to overseas, and that's what Trump's been trying to reverse,

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<v Speaker 2>or to He's been trying to light a fire here

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<v Speaker 2>in America with tariffs.

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<v Speaker 4>Some people don't think that's the right way to go

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<v Speaker 4>about it. Others think it's fair. But most everything, this

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<v Speaker 4>is what's disheartening. I just looked on a survey here.

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<v Speaker 4>Most everything we buy is made elsewhere. So even though

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<v Speaker 4>we say we want to buy American, and Kelly, you've

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<v Speaker 4>talked about some exceptions, most of the stuff available is

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<v Speaker 4>not from America. If you go to Amazon, if you

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<v Speaker 4>go to online to shop, most everything you're presented is

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<v Speaker 4>not made in America. It's just not so will companies

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<v Speaker 4>start up and trying to compete a lot of people

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<v Speaker 4>say they can compete because of the low labor, and

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<v Speaker 4>you know, you can compete with people who are willing

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<v Speaker 4>to work for a few dollars a day, and there's

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<v Speaker 4>nothing we can do about that. You can't force foreign

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<v Speaker 4>countries to pay their workers a fair wage. Three O

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<v Speaker 4>home with Remax Alliance three oh three nine two zero

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<v Speaker 4>sixteen twenty two. Hello Tom Martino here, let's talk trail

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<v Speaker 4>three seven one three talk seven one three eight two

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<v Speaker 4>five five.

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<v Speaker 2>Chris, you have a custody issue. What's going on with you? Chris,

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<v Speaker 2>welcome to the show.

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<v Speaker 17>Well good.

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<v Speaker 11>My custody issue is that my son has been taken

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<v Speaker 11>out of my custody for I had a mental hold

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<v Speaker 11>or check because I had a mental crisis and I

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<v Speaker 11>wanted to get back into therapy. Anyhow, they had considered

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<v Speaker 11>me or made me a kind of a threat, and

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<v Speaker 11>it took my They accosted me, detained me very poorly,

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<v Speaker 11>and threw me into a place.

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<v Speaker 4>Chris, let's go back to the beginning before this happened.

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<v Speaker 4>Were you divorced from the mom?

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<v Speaker 11>We were separated and she has not been involved with

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<v Speaker 11>his with his life for eight years. And I had

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<v Speaker 11>put in a discrepancy.

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<v Speaker 4>Prior prior to this problem. I need to know this, Chris,

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<v Speaker 4>prior to this problem where you had this mental health crisis?

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<v Speaker 4>Were you having shared custody with no issues?

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<v Speaker 11>Well, we have an APR agreement and she had not

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<v Speaker 11>followed through and had abandonment or I abandoned him basically,

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<v Speaker 11>so I had bull guardianship since then.

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<v Speaker 4>Okay, So how long before this mental health issue? How

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<v Speaker 4>long did you have soul custody?

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<v Speaker 11>Oh? Pretty much since twenty sixteen, seventeen? Well, yeah, seventeen.

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<v Speaker 2>How old was he? How old was he then?

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<v Speaker 9>Here?

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<v Speaker 11>Was about three?

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<v Speaker 2>And the mom abandoned him?

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<v Speaker 11>Yes, told us both to leave the house in which

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<v Speaker 11>I was paying for rent, and we had some issues,

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<v Speaker 11>and so Daniel was in my hands and she had

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<v Speaker 11>told us to leave and never come back.

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<v Speaker 2>So we do okay? And I had Yeah, And when

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<v Speaker 2>did you lose that custody?

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<v Speaker 11>DHS felt as if to get involved and put temporary

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<v Speaker 11>custody on him for.

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<v Speaker 2>And who did they give it?

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<v Speaker 4>When they took custody away from you. Who did they

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<v Speaker 4>give it to?

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<v Speaker 11>They gave it to the babysitters that I had him

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<v Speaker 11>arranged to be at for a while, just.

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<v Speaker 2>A babysitter randomly.

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<v Speaker 11>No, no, No, it was his friend's house, like trusted

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<v Speaker 11>friends that he was staying at that weekend. And he

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<v Speaker 11>didn't really But wait a.

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<v Speaker 4>Minute, Chris, Chris, when they took away your custody due

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<v Speaker 4>to the mental health crisis, When they did that, I.

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<v Speaker 2>Need to know.

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<v Speaker 4>So they granted it to somebody that you knew that

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<v Speaker 4>was taking care of the boy with you?

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<v Speaker 11>Yes, like to his friend's house like down the road, right.

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<v Speaker 2>Is it a family member or some stranger?

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<v Speaker 11>No, pretty much some stranger revolt knowing about a year.

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<v Speaker 4>So some guy that you met a year ago, the

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<v Speaker 4>courts granted custody of your child.

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<v Speaker 11>Yes, immediately they did for reasons thinking I was a threat,

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<v Speaker 11>which I was not.

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<v Speaker 4>Well this I'm very concerned about this. This sounds asked backwards.

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<v Speaker 4>They gave custody to a friend of yours. And what

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<v Speaker 4>do they know about this friend or what does is

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<v Speaker 4>this friend related.

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<v Speaker 2>To you in any way?

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<v Speaker 11>No? Negative?

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<v Speaker 2>And who is it that granted custody to this person.

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<v Speaker 11>The point of vis the police apartment. Who it was

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<v Speaker 11>the DHS that's got involved?

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<v Speaker 4>Does this guy? How did you meet this guy? This

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<v Speaker 4>guy that has custody now or guardianship?

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<v Speaker 11>I don't think it's not anymore because they had split up.

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<v Speaker 11>It was Hannah and Chad, which were kind of friends

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<v Speaker 11>that we met a year ago. They moved here and

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<v Speaker 11>they were a couple that were taking care of She

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<v Speaker 11>was taking care of her son. She's a single mom,

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<v Speaker 11>and but was engaged. I don't know if they were engaged,

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<v Speaker 11>but they had a good relationship it seems. And their

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<v Speaker 11>son goes to the school that Daniel goes to.

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<v Speaker 2>So I get it.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, here's what I need to know. Now, here's what

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01:22:44.760 --> 01:22:47.319
<v Speaker 4>I need to know. Now, where is the boy now?

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<v Speaker 4>And who has custody?

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<v Speaker 11>He's in custody with his friends, another friend from school

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<v Speaker 11>and their parents, which is a.

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<v Speaker 4>Did those parents? Did those parents file for custody?

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<v Speaker 11>No? No, it's under a temporary custody or something.

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<v Speaker 2>It's like emergency custody. Right.

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<v Speaker 11>Yeah, it's just been very frustrating. I'm trying to figure

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<v Speaker 11>it all out.

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<v Speaker 4>Tell me what what happened? I understand with any mental

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<v Speaker 4>health clare crisis, though they always give the parents a

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<v Speaker 4>path back.

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<v Speaker 2>What did they say you had to do?

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<v Speaker 11>Well, I'm going into I'm into therapy and stuff like that,

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<v Speaker 11>and uh, what can you describe?

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<v Speaker 2>Can you describe the mental health crisis? What happened?

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<v Speaker 11>Well? For instance, you know I had uh, I had

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<v Speaker 11>taken a chocolate bar anyways, and I had I had,

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<v Speaker 11>I went into a deep depression, had little psychosis and

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<v Speaker 11>I was kind of hallucinating bad thoughts and was I

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<v Speaker 11>now know how have an member for like a mental

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<v Speaker 11>crisis or I help crisis line?

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, Chris, did you have gnosis? Chris? Do you have

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<v Speaker 2>a diagnosis?

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<v Speaker 11>Yes, I have diagnosis with a little PTSD depression and ADHD.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, are you on medications now?

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<v Speaker 11>They actually tried to put me on some of these

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<v Speaker 11>weird psychotropics. They're pheno barbituates. I don't take those anymore.

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<v Speaker 11>They put me on adam exapine. I don't take those anymore.

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<v Speaker 11>It doesn't work. And then they want to put me

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<v Speaker 11>on alonzapine. And I take kalanity and for sleep sometimes

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<v Speaker 11>because I'm okays omniac.

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<v Speaker 4>Okay, And what did they say you have to do

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<v Speaker 4>to get custody back.

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<v Speaker 11>I'm just follow their loops, and uh, you know, I've

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<v Speaker 11>been kind of being treated like a criminal through this

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<v Speaker 11>whole process, and I'm not trusted with mine.

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<v Speaker 2>Did you.

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<v Speaker 11>Well taken care of it?

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<v Speaker 4>Did you have to do anything? Did you do anything

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<v Speaker 4>with your son when you were going through this episode?

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<v Speaker 11>No? Negative? No?

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<v Speaker 2>Okay? And do you get visitation with your son?

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<v Speaker 9>Yes?

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<v Speaker 2>Okay? What do you need from us?

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<v Speaker 11>I'm just curious as to what to go on because

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<v Speaker 11>I feel like I was mistreated in some of it

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<v Speaker 11>and being treated for you know, different diagnosis that they

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<v Speaker 11>haven't diagnosed me with and gave me a plethora of medications.

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<v Speaker 11>But also I'm stable, and they want to give me

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<v Speaker 11>a civil charge or whatnot for a negligence or dependency.

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<v Speaker 9>Thing.

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<v Speaker 2>And I think it's it's it's called dependency. Hold on,

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<v Speaker 2>it's called dependency and neglect. Are they charging you with that?

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<v Speaker 11>Yeah? They want to put a civil charge on that.

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<v Speaker 11>It's civil, I guess. And I don't see the purpose

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<v Speaker 11>of it because he was well taken care of and

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01:25:56.319 --> 01:25:58.800
<v Speaker 11>still has a good home and a loving father to

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<v Speaker 11>be with. And I just kind of felt like I

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<v Speaker 11>was duped into the situation for I don't know some reason.

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<v Speaker 4>It's important that we know. It's important that we know

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01:26:14.279 --> 01:26:18.319
<v Speaker 4>what they're trying to do. Are they trying to press charges?

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01:26:20.439 --> 01:26:22.520
<v Speaker 11>I think so? And so the trial is coming up

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01:26:22.560 --> 01:26:24.319
<v Speaker 11>here pretty soon. And this has been going on since.

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01:26:24.840 --> 01:26:27.560
<v Speaker 2>Hold on, hold on, if there, if they have a

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01:26:27.600 --> 01:26:32.079
<v Speaker 2>trial coming up, they're not thinking about pressing charges. They

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01:26:32.119 --> 01:26:33.479
<v Speaker 2>already pressed charges.

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01:26:34.399 --> 01:26:38.159
<v Speaker 11>Yes, I've been treated guilty until like, I guess what did.

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01:26:38.119 --> 01:26:40.800
<v Speaker 2>They charge you? What is your formal charge?

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01:26:42.880 --> 01:26:44.760
<v Speaker 11>A neglect? Independency?

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01:26:46.319 --> 01:26:50.359
<v Speaker 2>Okay, all right, and you need to get an attorney or.

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01:26:50.359 --> 01:26:51.800
<v Speaker 11>Has made sure he's well taken care of.

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01:26:52.159 --> 01:26:55.800
<v Speaker 2>You need to get an attorney, Chris. You can't go

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01:26:55.880 --> 01:26:58.159
<v Speaker 2>there alone.

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01:26:57.399 --> 01:27:01.079
<v Speaker 11>Because the because the attorneys that are appointed to me

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01:27:01.880 --> 01:27:04.159
<v Speaker 11>are not really representing me the way I wanted to be.

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01:27:05.800 --> 01:27:07.520
<v Speaker 2>So you have an attorney appointed.

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01:27:09.279 --> 01:27:12.439
<v Speaker 11>Yeah. And when I was in the when I was

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01:27:12.439 --> 01:27:16.279
<v Speaker 11>in the hold, they gave me all sorts of medications

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01:27:16.279 --> 01:27:19.479
<v Speaker 11>that made me feel growdy, woozy, and I took my

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01:27:19.560 --> 01:27:22.039
<v Speaker 11>phone so I couldn't have communications to get a hold

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01:27:22.039 --> 01:27:23.920
<v Speaker 11>of the parties.

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<v Speaker 2>Chris, and Chris, listen, listen.

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01:27:28.399 --> 01:27:32.760
<v Speaker 4>If you're charged with dependency and neglect, that could take

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01:27:32.760 --> 01:27:34.239
<v Speaker 4>away your custody forever.

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01:27:35.279 --> 01:27:35.640
<v Speaker 11>I know.

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01:27:37.159 --> 01:27:40.039
<v Speaker 2>You need to work with these attorneys appointed.

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01:27:39.560 --> 01:27:42.880
<v Speaker 11>To you, right, And that's what I've been doing.

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01:27:44.199 --> 01:27:47.840
<v Speaker 4>You have to because if you try now to hire

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01:27:47.880 --> 01:27:50.880
<v Speaker 4>your own attorney, you can't afford one. And the attorney

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01:27:50.920 --> 01:27:54.840
<v Speaker 4>that's appointed to you, did he or she give you

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01:27:54.920 --> 01:27:56.800
<v Speaker 4>any information on what you need to do?

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01:27:58.159 --> 01:28:01.119
<v Speaker 11>Yeah, I'm going I'm following through it there and doing

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01:28:01.119 --> 01:28:02.199
<v Speaker 11>all the classes I need to.

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01:28:02.399 --> 01:28:07.800
<v Speaker 4>And yes, what do they think the outcome will be?

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01:28:08.760 --> 01:28:11.119
<v Speaker 4>What do they what do they think the outcome is

1537
01:28:11.159 --> 01:28:14.279
<v Speaker 4>going to? What do they think the outcome is going

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01:28:14.319 --> 01:28:14.520
<v Speaker 4>to be?

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01:28:15.439 --> 01:28:17.119
<v Speaker 11>I have no idea. I don't think like them. I

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01:28:17.159 --> 01:28:17.880
<v Speaker 11>don't know how to.

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01:28:19.479 --> 01:28:20.720
<v Speaker 2>I don't Okay, So when you.

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01:28:20.560 --> 01:28:21.159
<v Speaker 17>Call the.

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01:28:22.720 --> 01:28:26.359
<v Speaker 11>One of the attreees, when you called us, yeah, because

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01:28:26.399 --> 01:28:28.039
<v Speaker 11>I told it. I was told it was a good idea.

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01:28:29.840 --> 01:28:33.560
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, well we we from But from what I'm hearing.

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01:28:34.319 --> 01:28:38.119
<v Speaker 2>From what I'm hearing, they've done everything properly. They put

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01:28:38.159 --> 01:28:42.159
<v Speaker 2>your son in emergency custody. They took them away from

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01:28:42.159 --> 01:28:45.399
<v Speaker 2>you because of this crisis you had. You admit you

1549
01:28:45.399 --> 01:28:49.000
<v Speaker 2>had a crisis. You're being charged with dependency and neglect.

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01:28:49.439 --> 01:28:53.119
<v Speaker 2>But if you have a diagnosis, that helps to diminish

1551
01:28:53.239 --> 01:28:57.359
<v Speaker 2>that dependency and neglect. Does your attorney say the charges

1552
01:28:57.399 --> 01:28:59.640
<v Speaker 2>will be dropped if you cooperate with them?

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01:29:00.319 --> 01:29:01.279
<v Speaker 11>Yes, I believe so.

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01:29:02.720 --> 01:29:05.239
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, well that's the road you should pursue.

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01:29:06.399 --> 01:29:08.880
<v Speaker 11>Yeah, and then you know, I put in an abandonment

1556
01:29:08.920 --> 01:29:11.880
<v Speaker 11>a long time ago, and jeffco for I mean my

1557
01:29:12.000 --> 01:29:14.159
<v Speaker 11>son and his mom hasn't been a part of his

1558
01:29:14.199 --> 01:29:15.960
<v Speaker 11>life for eight years. God knows why.

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01:29:16.079 --> 01:29:19.760
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, but that's not going to help you now. Proving

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01:29:19.760 --> 01:29:23.680
<v Speaker 4>abandonment against his mom has nothing to do with your case.

1561
01:29:24.399 --> 01:29:28.279
<v Speaker 4>Right now, you have to concentrate. You have to concentrate

1562
01:29:28.960 --> 01:29:32.840
<v Speaker 4>on fighting this dependency and neglect and you need to

1563
01:29:32.960 --> 01:29:35.159
<v Speaker 4>lean on a diagnosis instead.

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01:29:35.800 --> 01:29:38.560
<v Speaker 2>You need to say, I was sick.

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01:29:38.600 --> 01:29:41.560
<v Speaker 4>I'm being treated I want a path back to being

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01:29:41.600 --> 01:29:45.239
<v Speaker 4>a dad. That is, if you go in with that attitude,

1567
01:29:45.680 --> 01:29:48.000
<v Speaker 4>that's what's going to work. If you go in with

1568
01:29:48.079 --> 01:29:51.079
<v Speaker 4>an attitude that they didn't treat me properly, they gave

1569
01:29:51.119 --> 01:29:53.720
<v Speaker 4>me the wrong meds, they did this, they did that,

1570
01:29:54.439 --> 01:29:55.800
<v Speaker 4>you're not going to make it.

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01:29:55.800 --> 01:29:56.800
<v Speaker 2>It's not going to be right.

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01:29:57.520 --> 01:30:02.199
<v Speaker 4>You literally need to work with that attorney and tell

1573
01:30:02.239 --> 01:30:06.800
<v Speaker 4>that attorney that you don't want a dependency neglect conviction

1574
01:30:07.439 --> 01:30:11.600
<v Speaker 4>you want to cooperate with them, and then they will

1575
01:30:11.600 --> 01:30:13.119
<v Speaker 4>offer you some kind of a plea.

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01:30:14.800 --> 01:30:16.319
<v Speaker 2>Yep, it's a plea deal.

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01:30:18.119 --> 01:30:21.680
<v Speaker 4>I got to take this break, but Chris, really, I mean,

1578
01:30:21.720 --> 01:30:23.840
<v Speaker 4>you have the tools in your hand right now. You

1579
01:30:24.239 --> 01:30:27.720
<v Speaker 4>got to ask them. You got to ask your attorney

1580
01:30:28.039 --> 01:30:31.479
<v Speaker 4>to get you a plea deal. I'm Tom Martine Moore

1581
01:30:31.520 --> 01:30:39.359
<v Speaker 4>coming up. Go with a sure thing Denver's best roofer

1582
01:30:39.479 --> 01:30:40.960
<v Speaker 4>Excel roofing dot com.

1583
01:30:41.000 --> 01:30:43.039
<v Speaker 5>You don't pay a cent until you're content.

1584
01:30:46.399 --> 01:30:49.600
<v Speaker 4>Time for an insurance check up free no obligation comparison

1585
01:30:49.720 --> 01:30:53.279
<v Speaker 4>call Compass Insurance paying too much your coverage at dozens

1586
01:30:53.279 --> 01:30:56.039
<v Speaker 4>of insurance companies find out now three O three seven

1587
01:30:56.039 --> 01:30:58.399
<v Speaker 4>to seven to one help. You'll think you're his only

1588
01:30:58.479 --> 01:31:00.960
<v Speaker 4>customer when you choose Frank to the real estate man

1589
01:31:01.000 --> 01:31:04.439
<v Speaker 4>dot com to list your home with Remax Alliance three

1590
01:31:04.479 --> 01:31:30.079
<v Speaker 4>oh three nine two zero sixteen twenty two. Hi Tom Martino,

1591
01:31:30.159 --> 01:31:34.079
<v Speaker 4>here's three oh three seven one three talks seven one

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01:31:34.079 --> 01:31:38.439
<v Speaker 4>three eight two five five. All right, we got a

1593
01:31:38.439 --> 01:31:41.479
<v Speaker 4>lot more to talk about. I got some texts coming up.

1594
01:31:41.520 --> 01:31:44.319
<v Speaker 4>I want to find Tom. The reason I don't buy

1595
01:31:44.319 --> 01:31:48.600
<v Speaker 4>American is because things are not easily identified as to

1596
01:31:48.680 --> 01:31:49.479
<v Speaker 4>where they're made.

1597
01:31:50.199 --> 01:31:50.680
<v Speaker 2>How do you know?

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01:31:50.920 --> 01:31:52.840
<v Speaker 4>I mean, you really got to do some research to

1599
01:31:52.920 --> 01:31:57.680
<v Speaker 4>find things made in America. So that was one comment

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01:31:57.760 --> 01:32:01.039
<v Speaker 4>that I find. You know, that's pretty accurate. You don't

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01:32:01.079 --> 01:32:05.359
<v Speaker 4>automatically know if something is made in America. I mean,

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01:32:05.760 --> 01:32:08.279
<v Speaker 4>there are some signs that they made in America a lot,

1603
01:32:08.319 --> 01:32:12.279
<v Speaker 4>but not all products. Do you know where things are made?

1604
01:32:12.319 --> 01:32:13.600
<v Speaker 4>When you look at them?

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01:32:13.800 --> 01:32:16.239
<v Speaker 2>Do you know? And how do you know?

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01:32:17.359 --> 01:32:17.520
<v Speaker 1>Three?

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01:32:17.760 --> 01:32:19.680
<v Speaker 2>Three seven to one three talks seven one three eight

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01:32:19.680 --> 01:32:20.399
<v Speaker 2>two five five.

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<v Speaker 4>Here's the text, Tom, I'm starting a business, and you

1610
01:32:23.920 --> 01:32:28.920
<v Speaker 4>once mentioned there were five common mistakes people make. I

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01:32:28.960 --> 01:32:32.319
<v Speaker 4>thought I wrote them down, but let me explain this

1612
01:32:32.359 --> 01:32:34.760
<v Speaker 4>to you because when you're starting a business, let me

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01:32:34.800 --> 01:32:38.760
<v Speaker 4>tell you the number one. The number one is before

1614
01:32:38.800 --> 01:32:43.680
<v Speaker 4>you even start. Do a feasibility study before you even start.

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01:32:43.760 --> 01:32:46.039
<v Speaker 4>So I don't want to call this starting a business.

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01:32:47.319 --> 01:32:51.760
<v Speaker 4>I want to call this thinking about starting a business.

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01:32:52.920 --> 01:32:57.079
<v Speaker 2>Do a feasibility study in your head. First. You have

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01:32:57.159 --> 01:33:01.119
<v Speaker 2>to make sure that the end result, which is profit,

1619
01:33:03.159 --> 01:33:06.600
<v Speaker 2>is worth doing the business.

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01:33:08.359 --> 01:33:12.680
<v Speaker 4>If you want to make yourself a job, that's okay too.

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01:33:13.279 --> 01:33:18.000
<v Speaker 4>So when you start a business and you're a tradesman

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01:33:18.039 --> 01:33:19.720
<v Speaker 4>of some kind, just call it.

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01:33:19.920 --> 01:33:23.439
<v Speaker 2>You know, whatever you do and you have a widget.

1624
01:33:24.760 --> 01:33:27.680
<v Speaker 4>If you can make these widgets and pay for these

1625
01:33:27.680 --> 01:33:32.640
<v Speaker 4>widgets and then pay yourself a good salary, but there's

1626
01:33:32.640 --> 01:33:37.000
<v Speaker 4>no profit at the end, you have to ask yourself,

1627
01:33:37.920 --> 01:33:40.079
<v Speaker 4>can I find a job making the same amount of

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01:33:40.119 --> 01:33:44.479
<v Speaker 4>money with these widgets or do I have to do

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01:33:44.600 --> 01:33:48.399
<v Speaker 4>my own if you can find another job. It never

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01:33:48.520 --> 01:33:55.199
<v Speaker 4>pays to do the widgets and to have a business.

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01:33:55.720 --> 01:33:57.640
<v Speaker 4>Not if you can find a job doing it, it

1632
01:33:57.720 --> 01:34:01.680
<v Speaker 4>never pays. Now, if you're intent is to start out

1633
01:34:02.159 --> 01:34:05.760
<v Speaker 4>making a living making the widgets and eventually turn that

1634
01:34:05.880 --> 01:34:09.560
<v Speaker 4>into profit, and then you have not only your wage

1635
01:34:09.600 --> 01:34:14.359
<v Speaker 4>but your profit, then it might be worth doing again.

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01:34:14.720 --> 01:34:20.039
<v Speaker 4>People a lot of times mistake wages for profits. Profits

1637
01:34:20.079 --> 01:34:23.880
<v Speaker 4>are above and beyond all operating costs. Part of your

1638
01:34:23.880 --> 01:34:27.520
<v Speaker 4>operating costs would be your salary. And when people start

1639
01:34:27.520 --> 01:34:32.640
<v Speaker 4>a business, they don't always take into consideration their own time.

1640
01:34:34.279 --> 01:34:38.039
<v Speaker 4>They take into consideration everything else, but not that they're

1641
01:34:38.079 --> 01:34:40.279
<v Speaker 4>going to be there forty or sixty hours a week.

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01:34:41.159 --> 01:34:44.880
<v Speaker 4>If you can't pay for your time and have profit

1643
01:34:44.960 --> 01:34:49.119
<v Speaker 4>on top of that, it may not be a good endeavor. Now,

1644
01:34:49.439 --> 01:34:51.880
<v Speaker 4>So what does that mean? Pay for your time and

1645
01:34:51.960 --> 01:34:54.560
<v Speaker 4>have profit on top of it, simply what it means.

1646
01:34:54.920 --> 01:34:57.560
<v Speaker 4>But you also have to pay for the product that

1647
01:34:57.640 --> 01:35:02.199
<v Speaker 4>you're selling or the service that you're doing. So please

1648
01:35:02.479 --> 01:35:07.279
<v Speaker 4>take into consideration time. The owner's time is worth money

1649
01:35:07.680 --> 01:35:11.640
<v Speaker 4>as a wage, not profit. Then profits on top of that.

1650
01:35:12.079 --> 01:35:14.680
<v Speaker 4>So if you're spending thirty hours in the business or

1651
01:35:14.720 --> 01:35:17.359
<v Speaker 4>forty hours in the business, and you're making a certain

1652
01:35:17.359 --> 01:35:20.640
<v Speaker 4>amount of money, that's not profit.

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01:35:20.880 --> 01:35:21.800
<v Speaker 2>That's your wage.

1654
01:35:23.039 --> 01:35:25.880
<v Speaker 4>Now if you make more than a normal wage, that

1655
01:35:25.920 --> 01:35:29.880
<v Speaker 4>could go into profit, and you can take your profits

1656
01:35:29.880 --> 01:35:31.199
<v Speaker 4>as salary if you want to.

1657
01:35:32.199 --> 01:35:34.800
<v Speaker 2>But the point is this, you want both a.

1658
01:35:34.920 --> 01:35:38.680
<v Speaker 4>Job and profit, or maybe you don't want a job,

1659
01:35:38.760 --> 01:35:41.199
<v Speaker 4>maybe you just want the profit and you want other

1660
01:35:41.319 --> 01:35:44.239
<v Speaker 4>tradesmen to do the job. That's good too. You can

1661
01:35:44.359 --> 01:35:47.399
<v Speaker 4>just be an owner. You don't have to necessarily work

1662
01:35:47.640 --> 01:35:52.680
<v Speaker 4>the business. But when you calculate expenses, you have to

1663
01:35:52.760 --> 01:35:56.479
<v Speaker 4>calculate a number of categories. And the biggest thing that

1664
01:35:56.560 --> 01:36:02.319
<v Speaker 4>people neglect is competition. They don't realize that other people

1665
01:36:02.359 --> 01:36:04.560
<v Speaker 4>will be doing the same thing, so they have to

1666
01:36:04.600 --> 01:36:09.039
<v Speaker 4>allot a certain amount of money to marketing and to

1667
01:36:09.159 --> 01:36:12.840
<v Speaker 4>distinguishing themselves. And if you don't have that as part

1668
01:36:12.920 --> 01:36:15.760
<v Speaker 4>of your line items. Then you're not getting an accurate

1669
01:36:15.800 --> 01:36:19.720
<v Speaker 4>picture because that will eat into profits. And you cannot

1670
01:36:19.880 --> 01:36:25.920
<v Speaker 4>operate a business without marketing. It's simply impossible. So time

1671
01:36:26.399 --> 01:36:30.119
<v Speaker 4>and marketing are the two big things. And then profit.

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01:36:30.239 --> 01:36:33.479
<v Speaker 4>What will the profit be after you subtract your time?

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01:36:33.960 --> 01:36:35.880
<v Speaker 4>I'm Tom Martinez. We have more coming up on The

1674
01:36:35.880 --> 01:36:38.960
<v Speaker 4>Troubleshooter Show. Three oh three seven one three eight two

1675
01:36:39.000 --> 01:36:47.239
<v Speaker 4>five five. Go with a sure thing Denver's best roofer

1676
01:36:47.359 --> 01:36:50.239
<v Speaker 4>Excel Roofing dot com. You don't pay a cent until

1677
01:36:50.279 --> 01:36:56.720
<v Speaker 4>you're content. Time for an insurance check up free, no obligation.

1678
01:36:56.800 --> 01:37:00.600
<v Speaker 4>In comparison, call Compass Insurance paying too much your coverage

1679
01:37:00.640 --> 01:37:03.279
<v Speaker 4>at dozens of insurance companies find out now three all

1680
01:37:03.319 --> 01:37:05.680
<v Speaker 4>three seven to seven to one help. You'll think you're

1681
01:37:05.720 --> 01:37:08.239
<v Speaker 4>his only customer when you choose Frank durand the real

1682
01:37:08.359 --> 01:37:11.319
<v Speaker 4>estate Man dot com to list your home with Remax

1683
01:37:11.359 --> 01:37:14.439
<v Speaker 4>Alliance three all three nine two zero sixteen twenty two.

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<v Speaker 9>Yeah, ripped.

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01:37:22.319 --> 01:37:25.319
<v Speaker 2>New need advice so you don't have.

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01:37:27.560 --> 01:37:29.960
<v Speaker 1>Come running Just as fast as we can.

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01:37:30.840 --> 01:37:32.520
<v Speaker 2>Shooter's gonna help.

1688
01:37:32.800 --> 01:37:37.399
<v Speaker 3>Come dix is the Troubleshooter Show.

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01:37:37.520 --> 01:37:43.279
<v Speaker 2>No Tom Martino, Hello Tom Martino. Here, how are you doing.

1690
01:37:43.439 --> 01:37:44.399
<v Speaker 2>What can we do to make.

1691
01:37:44.239 --> 01:37:46.439
<v Speaker 4>Your life easier? Let's just go to the phones and

1692
01:37:46.439 --> 01:37:48.520
<v Speaker 4>talk about it. I've been doing this fifty years, folks.

1693
01:37:49.039 --> 01:37:51.520
<v Speaker 4>I probably heard almost every problem. But if you ever

1694
01:37:51.560 --> 01:37:54.319
<v Speaker 4>give me a problem I haven't heard, I promise you

1695
01:37:54.680 --> 01:37:59.039
<v Speaker 4>one hundred dollars. I'm serious. I I want to find

1696
01:37:59.079 --> 01:38:00.920
<v Speaker 4>out all kinds of problems.

1697
01:38:01.079 --> 01:38:03.800
<v Speaker 2>So if you ever had one i've never heard, call

1698
01:38:05.279 --> 01:38:06.039
<v Speaker 2>I want to hear it.

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01:38:07.039 --> 01:38:11.159
<v Speaker 4>And now let's go to the phones. And we have

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01:38:11.680 --> 01:38:15.039
<v Speaker 4>Jim who wants to talk about a debit card. Debit

1701
01:38:15.079 --> 01:38:17.479
<v Speaker 4>cards are debit cards are pretty cool.

1702
01:38:17.640 --> 01:38:20.239
<v Speaker 2>Actually, what's going on? Jim?

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01:38:21.279 --> 01:38:24.920
<v Speaker 19>Hello Tom? On Friday, I went up to the off

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01:38:25.000 --> 01:38:28.359
<v Speaker 19>the black car to the casinos. I used my debit

1705
01:38:28.399 --> 01:38:31.920
<v Speaker 19>card in an ATM machine at a Saratoga Yeah.

1706
01:38:32.279 --> 01:38:35.000
<v Speaker 9>Uh, got out, lost.

1707
01:38:34.720 --> 01:38:36.119
<v Speaker 17>It and let's the casino.

1708
01:38:36.239 --> 01:38:40.680
<v Speaker 19>I got a thing on my phone not five minutes

1709
01:38:40.760 --> 01:38:45.279
<v Speaker 19>later that someone had used my debit card as my

1710
01:38:46.560 --> 01:38:50.079
<v Speaker 19>account number, my pin number and to the penn any

1711
01:38:50.159 --> 01:38:52.680
<v Speaker 19>amount of money I had in my bank account trying

1712
01:38:52.720 --> 01:38:56.920
<v Speaker 19>to take it out. Luckily my bank sawders brought stopped it.

1713
01:38:57.560 --> 01:39:01.199
<v Speaker 19>I went back up funding Oh, good black hawk cop,

1714
01:39:02.479 --> 01:39:05.960
<v Speaker 19>and he said it's been happening occasionally up there. Is

1715
01:39:06.000 --> 01:39:08.119
<v Speaker 19>the only way it can be happening is somebody had

1716
01:39:08.159 --> 01:39:10.159
<v Speaker 19>to have walked over and put one of those scanning

1717
01:39:10.159 --> 01:39:14.079
<v Speaker 19>devices on the ATM machine.

1718
01:39:14.760 --> 01:39:19.079
<v Speaker 2>Before they could have spied. I don't want h oh no, no,

1719
01:39:19.119 --> 01:39:20.720
<v Speaker 2>because they swiped it, didn't they.

1720
01:39:22.039 --> 01:39:23.239
<v Speaker 19>I don't know how they got it.

1721
01:39:23.399 --> 01:39:23.720
<v Speaker 17>I don't know.

1722
01:39:24.119 --> 01:39:26.720
<v Speaker 19>I say, I used my card, I took it back

1723
01:39:26.760 --> 01:39:28.800
<v Speaker 19>out and nobody was around me. Nobody could have seen

1724
01:39:28.840 --> 01:39:29.119
<v Speaker 19>what I.

1725
01:39:29.119 --> 01:39:30.960
<v Speaker 9>Was putting in. But they got it.

1726
01:39:31.399 --> 01:39:33.800
<v Speaker 19>I mean they took it out, tried to take it

1727
01:39:33.800 --> 01:39:36.760
<v Speaker 19>out to the penny Watchally my bank Shawt is fraud

1728
01:39:36.800 --> 01:39:38.000
<v Speaker 19>and frozen instantly.

1729
01:39:38.760 --> 01:39:42.079
<v Speaker 4>Man, your bank is great. What what bank do you have, Jim?

1730
01:39:42.359 --> 01:39:43.159
<v Speaker 4>What bank you have?

1731
01:39:43.760 --> 01:39:47.319
<v Speaker 19>Take bank? But it was bank?

1732
01:39:48.319 --> 01:39:50.239
<v Speaker 2>So now what is your question now, sir?

1733
01:39:51.119 --> 01:39:52.840
<v Speaker 19>No, I'm just trying to put a warning to people

1734
01:39:52.920 --> 01:39:55.720
<v Speaker 19>they're using machine up there, look for those devices because

1735
01:39:55.760 --> 01:39:58.760
<v Speaker 19>wherever it was doing it obviously used it.

1736
01:39:59.239 --> 01:40:05.319
<v Speaker 4>And it's Jim, it's all machines. It's all machines. It's

1737
01:40:05.359 --> 01:40:07.840
<v Speaker 4>not just that one, just all machines.

1738
01:40:09.039 --> 01:40:12.720
<v Speaker 18>Did you did you call the casino back and notify them?

1739
01:40:12.960 --> 01:40:16.520
<v Speaker 19>I called the casino. They called me back about twenty

1740
01:40:16.560 --> 01:40:18.800
<v Speaker 19>four hours later and says we'll go up and look,

1741
01:40:18.840 --> 01:40:21.039
<v Speaker 19>and they come back says, oh, we don't say any device.

1742
01:40:21.640 --> 01:40:22.479
<v Speaker 9>Of course, not trying.

1743
01:40:24.640 --> 01:40:30.039
<v Speaker 4>Hey, Jim, Jim, listen, but you have to you have

1744
01:40:30.119 --> 01:40:31.159
<v Speaker 4>to protect yourself.

1745
01:40:31.680 --> 01:40:35.359
<v Speaker 2>They have right now your You.

1746
01:40:35.359 --> 01:40:37.520
<v Speaker 4>Got to do what I tell you, no matter what

1747
01:40:37.560 --> 01:40:40.600
<v Speaker 4>your bank says. And I hope you trust me. Once

1748
01:40:40.640 --> 01:40:46.520
<v Speaker 4>they have your routing number and your account number, they're

1749
01:40:46.560 --> 01:40:48.840
<v Speaker 4>going to play havoc on you. And it could be

1750
01:40:48.880 --> 01:40:52.199
<v Speaker 4>in a month from now, but you there. But they

1751
01:40:52.199 --> 01:40:55.720
<v Speaker 4>don't need your card to make an ach transfer out

1752
01:40:55.720 --> 01:40:59.960
<v Speaker 4>of your account, so they can do what's called a pull,

1753
01:41:01.000 --> 01:41:04.600
<v Speaker 4>and they don't. People don't understand this about the banking world.

1754
01:41:04.920 --> 01:41:06.279
<v Speaker 2>It's a deep, dark secret.

1755
01:41:06.880 --> 01:41:11.920
<v Speaker 4>But there are no there are no protections for digital transactions.

1756
01:41:12.479 --> 01:41:15.600
<v Speaker 4>When somebody goes in and does a pull, they don't

1757
01:41:15.640 --> 01:41:17.359
<v Speaker 4>need a gun or a knife to rob your bank.

1758
01:41:17.439 --> 01:41:20.439
<v Speaker 4>They just need the routing number and the account number.

1759
01:41:20.840 --> 01:41:24.520
<v Speaker 4>Right now, I have my online bank, I can go

1760
01:41:24.600 --> 01:41:28.560
<v Speaker 4>on there initiate a pull to your account. I put

1761
01:41:28.600 --> 01:41:31.600
<v Speaker 4>in your routing number, your account number. It doesn't ask

1762
01:41:31.600 --> 01:41:35.720
<v Speaker 4>for your approval, it asks for nothing. I hit and

1763
01:41:35.760 --> 01:41:38.680
<v Speaker 4>it will pull out the money that's going to happen

1764
01:41:38.760 --> 01:41:42.119
<v Speaker 4>to you. They're not done with you. In fact, they've

1765
01:41:42.199 --> 01:41:48.039
<v Speaker 4>probably already sold your information. You have to stop it

1766
01:41:48.079 --> 01:41:51.960
<v Speaker 4>from happening in the future. Here's what your bank is

1767
01:41:52.000 --> 01:41:55.159
<v Speaker 4>going to tell you. Okay, okay, go ahead. What did

1768
01:41:55.159 --> 01:41:55.840
<v Speaker 4>your bank tell you?

1769
01:41:55.880 --> 01:41:56.399
<v Speaker 2>I'm interested.

1770
01:41:56.399 --> 01:41:58.359
<v Speaker 19>I went to the bank. I went to the bank.

1771
01:41:58.520 --> 01:42:03.199
<v Speaker 19>They got rid of a car, put a new card in,

1772
01:42:04.399 --> 01:42:07.439
<v Speaker 19>so they locked everything up on that account.

1773
01:42:07.520 --> 01:42:11.600
<v Speaker 2>You know, Jim, it's not locked up. Jim.

1774
01:42:11.800 --> 01:42:14.520
<v Speaker 4>Let me tell you another dirty secret. I don't know

1775
01:42:14.560 --> 01:42:17.960
<v Speaker 4>why banks are not just straight about it. Your bank's

1776
01:42:18.000 --> 01:42:20.640
<v Speaker 4>routing numbers say the same. They gave you a new

1777
01:42:20.640 --> 01:42:24.640
<v Speaker 4>account number. When someone puts through a draft on your

1778
01:42:24.680 --> 01:42:29.479
<v Speaker 4>old account number, it will automatically transfer to the new

1779
01:42:29.520 --> 01:42:33.359
<v Speaker 4>account number. And the reason it does that is because

1780
01:42:34.119 --> 01:42:39.479
<v Speaker 4>you unless you have a major fraud investigation going on,

1781
01:42:39.840 --> 01:42:44.079
<v Speaker 4>it's gonna automatically transfer. They don't tell you this, but

1782
01:42:44.279 --> 01:42:46.760
<v Speaker 4>what you really have to do, and I hate telling

1783
01:42:46.840 --> 01:42:50.159
<v Speaker 4>you this, but I swear to God it is the

1784
01:42:50.199 --> 01:42:55.720
<v Speaker 4>only protection is to close the account and to reopen

1785
01:42:55.760 --> 01:43:00.199
<v Speaker 4>the account at another bank. I know this sounds crazy,

1786
01:43:00.439 --> 01:43:04.000
<v Speaker 4>but I promise you with what they do is they

1787
01:43:04.039 --> 01:43:08.840
<v Speaker 4>create what's called a recurring transaction, and they put it

1788
01:43:08.880 --> 01:43:12.439
<v Speaker 4>through on your old account. When somebody puts through a

1789
01:43:12.479 --> 01:43:18.560
<v Speaker 4>recurring transaction on a closed account, the bank assumes that

1790
01:43:18.600 --> 01:43:23.199
<v Speaker 4>you meant to pay that and it's recurring and it

1791
01:43:23.239 --> 01:43:26.399
<v Speaker 4>got caught in the middle, so they will transfer it

1792
01:43:26.439 --> 01:43:29.560
<v Speaker 4>over to the new account and honor it. Now, you

1793
01:43:29.680 --> 01:43:32.159
<v Speaker 4>can argue and get your money back, but it's going

1794
01:43:32.239 --> 01:43:34.279
<v Speaker 4>to happen all the time.

1795
01:43:34.479 --> 01:43:35.960
<v Speaker 2>They're going to hit that account.

1796
01:43:36.520 --> 01:43:40.000
<v Speaker 4>They have autobots that hit that account a few times

1797
01:43:40.039 --> 01:43:43.399
<v Speaker 4>a month, and you might two years down the road

1798
01:43:43.520 --> 01:43:46.520
<v Speaker 4>get hit, so they never let it go.

1799
01:43:47.039 --> 01:43:48.359
<v Speaker 2>The only way to do it.

1800
01:43:48.479 --> 01:43:51.399
<v Speaker 4>The only way to protect yourself is to have a

1801
01:43:51.439 --> 01:43:56.880
<v Speaker 4>brand new account and at a brand new bank. If

1802
01:43:56.920 --> 01:43:59.840
<v Speaker 4>the routing number is the same, you're screwed. There's also

1803
01:44:00.119 --> 01:44:02.640
<v Speaker 4>something called a cross collateralization agreement.

1804
01:44:03.319 --> 01:44:04.359
<v Speaker 2>It says when.

1805
01:44:04.199 --> 01:44:07.359
<v Speaker 4>You have an account at that bank and one account

1806
01:44:07.399 --> 01:44:10.800
<v Speaker 4>is overdrawn, they can go into your next account. So

1807
01:44:10.960 --> 01:44:14.600
<v Speaker 4>even though they know you've been defrauded, they they don't

1808
01:44:14.760 --> 01:44:18.600
<v Speaker 4>keep track of your account on someone's desk. So when

1809
01:44:18.640 --> 01:44:22.960
<v Speaker 4>someone puts through an account that bounces, they go to

1810
01:44:23.039 --> 01:44:26.319
<v Speaker 4>any other account you have at that bank to settle

1811
01:44:26.359 --> 01:44:29.199
<v Speaker 4>it and it's the worst news in the world.

1812
01:44:29.039 --> 01:44:30.960
<v Speaker 2>Because I swear to God I had to do this.

1813
01:44:31.880 --> 01:44:34.600
<v Speaker 4>Let me tell you what happened Capital one.

1814
01:44:34.880 --> 01:44:37.520
<v Speaker 2>I had a credit card that was hacked.

1815
01:44:38.760 --> 01:44:43.079
<v Speaker 4>I changed the credit card, they killed the card.

1816
01:44:43.119 --> 01:44:45.840
<v Speaker 2>They sent me a new one. But let me tell

1817
01:44:45.880 --> 01:44:46.319
<v Speaker 2>you something.

1818
01:44:46.720 --> 01:44:50.720
<v Speaker 4>When a charge came through on the old account, they

1819
01:44:50.840 --> 01:44:54.159
<v Speaker 4>honored it with a new card. And I asked them

1820
01:44:54.199 --> 01:44:57.479
<v Speaker 4>why they did it, and they said, oh, you have

1821
01:44:57.560 --> 01:45:01.079
<v Speaker 4>a number of recurring accounts and this one is also

1822
01:45:01.119 --> 01:45:04.359
<v Speaker 4>a recurring account. And I said, wait a minute, I've

1823
01:45:04.399 --> 01:45:08.039
<v Speaker 4>never heard of ABC so and so or whatever it was.

1824
01:45:08.079 --> 01:45:10.680
<v Speaker 4>I'm making that up. And they said, but we don't

1825
01:45:10.680 --> 01:45:13.239
<v Speaker 4>know that. And I said, then why don't you decline it?

1826
01:45:13.920 --> 01:45:17.880
<v Speaker 4>And they say, they don't decline it. They approve them

1827
01:45:18.279 --> 01:45:20.760
<v Speaker 4>until the account holder complains.

1828
01:45:21.279 --> 01:45:25.000
<v Speaker 2>So this game, let me tell you how far I

1829
01:45:25.000 --> 01:45:25.399
<v Speaker 2>had to go.

1830
01:45:25.800 --> 01:45:28.520
<v Speaker 4>So I said, I want to close the entire account

1831
01:45:28.760 --> 01:45:31.479
<v Speaker 4>so no one can put anything through on the card.

1832
01:45:31.760 --> 01:45:33.000
<v Speaker 2>And let me tell you what I had to do.

1833
01:45:33.520 --> 01:45:38.319
<v Speaker 4>I had to reapply and qualify credit wise and have

1834
01:45:38.439 --> 01:45:41.680
<v Speaker 4>a brand new stinking account to stop all of the

1835
01:45:41.800 --> 01:45:42.960
<v Speaker 4>fraudulent charges.

1836
01:45:43.640 --> 01:45:44.000
<v Speaker 2>Again.

1837
01:45:44.359 --> 01:45:47.720
<v Speaker 4>They may not happen for a year, but your information

1838
01:45:47.920 --> 01:45:50.680
<v Speaker 4>is out there and will never go away. So Jim,

1839
01:45:50.720 --> 01:45:54.439
<v Speaker 4>I am begging you to shut down the account.

1840
01:45:54.680 --> 01:45:54.920
<v Speaker 2>Now.

1841
01:45:55.000 --> 01:45:59.960
<v Speaker 4>If you can open a brand new account at an

1842
01:46:00.000 --> 01:46:03.119
<v Speaker 4>another bank, it'll help you. If you love the bank

1843
01:46:03.159 --> 01:46:08.199
<v Speaker 4>you're with, Try a brand new account without a cross

1844
01:46:08.239 --> 01:46:12.319
<v Speaker 4>collateralization agreement. In other words, if you open a new account,

1845
01:46:12.600 --> 01:46:16.600
<v Speaker 4>a brand new account, no pre existing numbers whatsoever, and

1846
01:46:16.720 --> 01:46:20.479
<v Speaker 4>even put a different middle initial or something, make it different,

1847
01:46:20.840 --> 01:46:24.840
<v Speaker 4>and then tell them that this account is not to

1848
01:46:24.880 --> 01:46:31.000
<v Speaker 4>be used in a cross collateralization arrangement, and make sure

1849
01:46:31.199 --> 01:46:34.199
<v Speaker 4>you do not sign one. This sounds like I know

1850
01:46:34.279 --> 01:46:36.560
<v Speaker 4>it sounds you didn't want to hear all this, But

1851
01:46:36.680 --> 01:46:39.159
<v Speaker 4>I swear to God I'm telling you the truth and

1852
01:46:39.199 --> 01:46:42.399
<v Speaker 4>it will sting you if you do not take the precautions.

1853
01:46:42.800 --> 01:46:46.079
<v Speaker 19>Okay, some I'm gonna agree with you because I have

1854
01:46:46.800 --> 01:46:49.159
<v Speaker 19>another account. I do DoorDash, and I have an account

1855
01:46:49.199 --> 01:46:54.159
<v Speaker 19>through them. Someone hit that account about two weeks.

1856
01:46:53.880 --> 01:46:56.640
<v Speaker 16>Ago and they saw Yeah.

1857
01:46:56.680 --> 01:46:59.439
<v Speaker 19>However, when I called door Dash to find out how

1858
01:46:59.479 --> 01:47:02.760
<v Speaker 19>to get into card, it came up. Did you try

1859
01:47:02.880 --> 01:47:05.720
<v Speaker 19>to draw money out on this state and on this state?

1860
01:47:06.560 --> 01:47:08.800
<v Speaker 19>You know we closed that account a week ago.

1861
01:47:09.000 --> 01:47:10.000
<v Speaker 9>Right, well?

1862
01:47:10.079 --> 01:47:12.880
<v Speaker 19>Right, trying to use it, So I agree with you.

1863
01:47:13.800 --> 01:47:16.960
<v Speaker 19>It's close the count. I've said, Chase for twenty years

1864
01:47:17.000 --> 01:47:17.439
<v Speaker 19>over there.

1865
01:47:19.439 --> 01:47:22.079
<v Speaker 2>Now, Chase might accommodate you. They might.

1866
01:47:22.439 --> 01:47:25.479
<v Speaker 4>Chase might let you use an alternate name with a

1867
01:47:25.520 --> 01:47:28.880
<v Speaker 4>different middle initial. They may if you tell them. But

1868
01:47:29.000 --> 01:47:30.960
<v Speaker 4>here's what they're going to tell you, which is false.

1869
01:47:31.199 --> 01:47:32.880
<v Speaker 4>They're going to say, oh, Jim, you don't have to

1870
01:47:32.880 --> 01:47:36.319
<v Speaker 4>worry about that. Once that account is closed and you

1871
01:47:36.359 --> 01:47:39.439
<v Speaker 4>open a new one, they can never get the money

1872
01:47:39.439 --> 01:47:42.640
<v Speaker 4>out of the new account. And you say, well, what

1873
01:47:42.760 --> 01:47:47.159
<v Speaker 4>happens to all my recurring transactions? They won't tell you

1874
01:47:47.199 --> 01:47:50.159
<v Speaker 4>the truth because it's too much work on their part

1875
01:47:50.359 --> 01:47:52.239
<v Speaker 4>and they don't want to run the risk of losing

1876
01:47:52.239 --> 01:47:56.880
<v Speaker 4>you as a customer. But that's the dirty secrets of

1877
01:47:56.960 --> 01:48:00.920
<v Speaker 4>banking that new credit cards don't protect you, and new

1878
01:48:00.960 --> 01:48:04.680
<v Speaker 4>accounts don't protect you. You have to close and move

1879
01:48:04.760 --> 01:48:06.159
<v Speaker 4>to another institution.

1880
01:48:06.680 --> 01:48:07.119
<v Speaker 2>I did.

1881
01:48:07.439 --> 01:48:12.359
<v Speaker 4>I had to close every every conceivable relationship I had

1882
01:48:12.399 --> 01:48:16.119
<v Speaker 4>with Chase. I had to and you might have to

1883
01:48:16.119 --> 01:48:19.239
<v Speaker 4>do the same thing. And it's not Chase's problem. It's

1884
01:48:19.279 --> 01:48:25.000
<v Speaker 4>just fraud. And I have a suggestion for people to

1885
01:48:26.279 --> 01:48:33.680
<v Speaker 4>end this. We really need hard keys, something that we

1886
01:48:34.319 --> 01:48:39.720
<v Speaker 4>have to present or wave or scan, and that hard

1887
01:48:39.840 --> 01:48:43.039
<v Speaker 4>key has to be encrypted in such a way that

1888
01:48:43.159 --> 01:48:44.640
<v Speaker 4>it can't be duplicated.

1889
01:48:45.720 --> 01:48:46.880
<v Speaker 2>There's got to be a.

1890
01:48:46.760 --> 01:48:51.119
<v Speaker 4>Way because right now, with all the electronic transfers, we

1891
01:48:51.279 --> 01:48:58.560
<v Speaker 4>have tremendous fraud going on, tremendous fraud. It's one online

1892
01:48:58.680 --> 01:49:02.039
<v Speaker 4>and digital crime is the number one crime right now.

1893
01:49:02.319 --> 01:49:07.199
<v Speaker 4>Number one takes more money than anything. Jim, I appreciate

1894
01:49:07.239 --> 01:49:11.199
<v Speaker 4>you calling. You brought up a really, really really important problem.

1895
01:49:11.239 --> 01:49:13.600
<v Speaker 2>You really did, all right, thank you?

1896
01:49:13.880 --> 01:49:16.760
<v Speaker 4>And Rich, go ahead, Rich, you have a comment on

1897
01:49:16.840 --> 01:49:18.279
<v Speaker 4>bank cards and fraud.

1898
01:49:18.319 --> 01:49:20.439
<v Speaker 2>Go ahead. Rich.

1899
01:49:20.640 --> 01:49:23.920
<v Speaker 20>So I've talked to you before about my wife getting

1900
01:49:23.960 --> 01:49:29.520
<v Speaker 20>scammed last year for ten grand and they did some

1901
01:49:29.800 --> 01:49:35.359
<v Speaker 20>uh transactions, some zell transactions from our first bank. So

1902
01:49:35.399 --> 01:49:38.119
<v Speaker 20>we took your advice and we shut down left that

1903
01:49:38.439 --> 01:49:42.960
<v Speaker 20>left key bank completely went to another bank, and they're

1904
01:49:43.039 --> 01:49:44.399
<v Speaker 20>hitting her on that bank.

1905
01:49:45.479 --> 01:49:49.720
<v Speaker 2>So, oh my god, wait a minute, how the hell

1906
01:49:49.760 --> 01:49:51.560
<v Speaker 2>did they follow her? Rich?

1907
01:49:52.359 --> 01:49:54.840
<v Speaker 20>Your theory of going to a different banks not working

1908
01:49:54.920 --> 01:49:55.720
<v Speaker 20>for us.

1909
01:49:57.399 --> 01:50:01.399
<v Speaker 4>But I want to analyze this, Rich, you actually wait,

1910
01:50:01.479 --> 01:50:02.439
<v Speaker 4>let me take this break.

1911
01:50:02.479 --> 01:50:03.520
<v Speaker 2>This is amazing to me.

1912
01:50:03.840 --> 01:50:07.399
<v Speaker 4>You actually shut it down now that this tells me

1913
01:50:07.439 --> 01:50:09.640
<v Speaker 4>they got something in her phone or something. Hold on,

1914
01:50:09.960 --> 01:50:18.159
<v Speaker 4>we'll talk about this and more coming up. Go with

1915
01:50:18.239 --> 01:50:21.800
<v Speaker 4>a sure thing Denver's Best roofer Excel Roofing dot com.

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<v Speaker 4>Everything spelled out there. Okay, Rich said, this is really queer.

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<v Speaker 4>Rich said, Hey, my wife's card was hacked. We changed banks.

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<v Speaker 2>And they followed her.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't understand that, Rich, So what kind of a

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<v Speaker 4>scam or how do we know it's not a new scam?

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<v Speaker 16>All right, good, let's go from the very beginning of

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<v Speaker 16>the first bank. So they got her hook line and sinker.

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<v Speaker 16>We figured this all out.

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<v Speaker 17>What they did is they.

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<v Speaker 16>Called and introduced themselves as the fraud department from Key Bank.

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<v Speaker 16>Then they asked you, can you confirm your social Security number?

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<v Speaker 16>Can you confirm your address? They got so much information

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<v Speaker 16>from her because they said it was They were very

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<v Speaker 16>convincing and they said that we see some fraud on

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<v Speaker 16>your account. So yeah, somehow they've followed us, and they.

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<v Speaker 4>Have well either they followed there is not so much

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<v Speaker 4>they're following you as they are. Well, yeah, they are

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<v Speaker 4>following you, but it's not the bank that they were targeting.

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<v Speaker 2>It's her. So I think, no matter where she goes,

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<v Speaker 2>she has this monkey on her back.

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<v Speaker 4>What we have to do is figure out how to

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<v Speaker 4>get rid of it. So here's what I want to know.

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<v Speaker 16>Got it?

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<v Speaker 2>What do they What do they do? Okay, what did

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<v Speaker 2>you do?

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<v Speaker 16>So the last two the last two were Apple pay

1956
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<v Speaker 16>where they got five hundred dollars each time twice the

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01:52:53.039 --> 01:52:55.319
<v Speaker 16>bank gave it back. But it takes time. So what

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<v Speaker 16>we're doing. Now, I know.

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<v Speaker 9>What is called a clear card. So we we told

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<v Speaker 9>them this after what you.

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<v Speaker 16>Said, no no cross.

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<v Speaker 4>Uh collateralization, no cross collateralization realization.

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<v Speaker 16>And our our our ATM card is called a clear card.

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<v Speaker 16>So we only keep what money in there is what

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01:53:20.159 --> 01:53:23.479
<v Speaker 16>we spend, so we don't let our paychecks go to

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<v Speaker 16>there or anything and into this into this card.

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<v Speaker 9>So if we want to go to the.

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<v Speaker 16>Grocery store and we want to, uh, all we got

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<v Speaker 16>to do is on our phone is transfer out and

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<v Speaker 16>I do it on my phone, not her phone. It

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01:53:37.560 --> 01:53:40.079
<v Speaker 16>is transfer two hundred dollars for groceries. So this clear

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01:53:40.119 --> 01:53:43.600
<v Speaker 16>card and if you can use the clear card. This

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<v Speaker 16>that's gone through three eight three at MS now since

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<v Speaker 16>we've had it in January. I'm on the same one.

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<v Speaker 16>So it's not me that they're following.

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<v Speaker 2>No, I know, I know, you know.

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<v Speaker 4>I just think you have Oh my god, it is

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<v Speaker 4>it's getting to be crazy.

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<v Speaker 9>Character.

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<v Speaker 4>There's got to be a way to do it. But

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<v Speaker 4>people give too much information.

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<v Speaker 2>I say, don't do anything on the phone, but I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know. Rich, thank you for the enlightenment.

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<v Speaker 4>He's saying, go ahead, forell them back. Yeah, now I

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<v Speaker 4>think that you're doing the right thing for you. Everybody

1986
01:54:27.439 --> 01:54:29.159
<v Speaker 4>is going to have a different solution. But here's the

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<v Speaker 4>main here's the main deal. Do not keep in the

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<v Speaker 4>same bank if you suspect you've been hacked. Now, as

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<v Speaker 4>with them, they just were hacked. Their life is hacked.

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<v Speaker 4>We got to watch out for devices on our phones

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<v Speaker 4>as well, and there are many good programs for that. Now,

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<v Speaker 4>Renita or Renetta, Rinita, you have a question on real estate. Oh,

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<v Speaker 4>I used to do a lot of real estate, Renetta,

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<v Speaker 4>what is your concern or question?

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<v Speaker 17>Only of the.

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<v Speaker 8>Question having to do with a fire at my home

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<v Speaker 8>And they came in and did an asbestos testing within

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<v Speaker 8>the home itself, and the results came back. And my

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<v Speaker 8>home was built in nineteen forty six. And anyhow, the

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<v Speaker 8>testing came back and said that the entrance way was

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<v Speaker 8>like at seventeen and the other high point was in

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<v Speaker 8>the kitchen in the lighting fixtures, and that was a

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<v Speaker 8>little bit high, but not like a seven. But the

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<v Speaker 8>rest of the house came out to be like twos

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<v Speaker 8>and trees and stuff like that. Well, anyhow, I have

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<v Speaker 8>a detached garage. The garage was packed by the fire.

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<v Speaker 8>But they're saying that there is asbestos degree in the

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<v Speaker 8>garage and they want to do to get rid of

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<v Speaker 8>everything in the garage now and I haven't locked up,

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<v Speaker 8>and I have had it locked up doing this whole thing,

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<v Speaker 8>but I do unlock it to do in myself. And

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<v Speaker 8>they're saying that I can't brought the asbestos in by

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<v Speaker 8>my tracking.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, hold on, now, Renetta, if you brought the asbestos

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<v Speaker 2>in from the tracking, that's not a source and that's

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<v Speaker 2>easily cleaned up.

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<v Speaker 4>If it's not being sourced there, you don't have to

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<v Speaker 4>worry about it. You just have to get it cleaned up.

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<v Speaker 8>And how do I do that?

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<v Speaker 2>Okay?

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<v Speaker 4>First and foremost, I want to make sure you're being

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<v Speaker 4>handled properly by these companies. So what is this company

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<v Speaker 4>proposing you do in the garage? What are they proposing

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<v Speaker 4>you do?

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<v Speaker 8>You're rid of all my stuff because it's.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, but they don't.

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<v Speaker 4>They're not doing any great remodeling in that garage, are they?

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<v Speaker 8>Nope? And he never tested.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay.

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<v Speaker 4>What I'm concerned about is this, where is the asbestos

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<v Speaker 4>coming from that's showing up in the garage. Is it

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<v Speaker 4>coming from a source or is it coming from being

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<v Speaker 4>tracked in that's what we have to determine first. Once

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<v Speaker 4>you determine that, then what you do is attack it.

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<v Speaker 2>So it really depends on what a good company finds.

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<v Speaker 4>It could be that you're going to need to you know,

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<v Speaker 4>tent it and do it properly from the ground up,

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<v Speaker 4>but your insurance should pay for that.

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<v Speaker 2>So I what we need, you know, I wish Mark

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<v Speaker 2>and Suzanne we're here.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't know if we have and I think Susan

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<v Speaker 4>is listening. Mark might be listening. We need to find

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<v Speaker 4>on our referral list. I think we have some asbestos people.

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<v Speaker 4>I would get some one that we know and trust first,

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<v Speaker 4>just to find out if in fact you have a

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<v Speaker 4>source or it's just environmental from being tracked in. Did

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<v Speaker 4>this existing company give you an idea?

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<v Speaker 2>What did they say?

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<v Speaker 4>They thought it was just debris from being tracked in.

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<v Speaker 8>No, they're saying that it was within the house.

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<v Speaker 2>I understand that.

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<v Speaker 4>But did they say that the one in your garage,

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<v Speaker 4>the asbestos in your garage, where do they say that's coming.

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<v Speaker 8>From being trapped in that There isn't any asbestos in

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<v Speaker 8>the garage itself.

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<v Speaker 4>Okay, okay, that's good, that's good news. Did they determine

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<v Speaker 4>that that there's no asbestos in the garage?

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<v Speaker 8>Should I have it read? I mean, should I hire

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<v Speaker 8>somebody to piss the garage?

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<v Speaker 2>Well? Yes, but are you here's trying to get at

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<v Speaker 2>your main concern is you don't want to throw away

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<v Speaker 2>all your stuff in the garage.

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<v Speaker 8>No, I want to keep all of it.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, your insurance should pay Your insurance should pay for

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<v Speaker 4>cleaning it.

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<v Speaker 2>So what's the issue.

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<v Speaker 8>The issue is that there is no ASBESTUS in the

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<v Speaker 8>garage itself, and they did not test the garage, and.

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<v Speaker 4>No, I understand, but what's the issue about getting your

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<v Speaker 4>stuff cleaned?

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<v Speaker 8>It isn't that it's getting cleaned. It's just that they're

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<v Speaker 8>saying that there's ASBESTUS on the outside of my home

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<v Speaker 8>and stuff, and the hot fire was on the south side,

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<v Speaker 8>and they don't have that plastic down or what do

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01:59:59.119 --> 02:00:02.760
<v Speaker 8>I want to call it in pain or whatever? But

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<v Speaker 8>the rest place, okay, I don't know what.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, it's okay, it's okay, Rannetta. Listen. I think

2078
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<v Speaker 2>what you're I think what you're asking. You're asking if.

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<v Speaker 4>We had a SBESIS tracked into the garage and if

2080
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<v Speaker 4>my stuff was contaminated.

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<v Speaker 2>Can it be cleaned. That's what you're asking, right.

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<v Speaker 4>What is that noise I'm hearing in the background are

2083
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<v Speaker 4>people talking?

2084
02:00:35.800 --> 02:00:36.680
<v Speaker 2>Do you have the radio on?

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<v Speaker 4>If you have the radio on, You're going to be

2086
02:00:38.600 --> 02:00:42.399
<v Speaker 4>very very confused, So I suggest you turn the radio

2087
02:00:42.479 --> 02:00:45.920
<v Speaker 4>down and not listen to us. So I'm asking you,

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<v Speaker 4>this is the main reason for the call. You want

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<v Speaker 4>to know if you had you know if you have

2090
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<v Speaker 4>to get rid of your stuff or can it be cleaned?

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<v Speaker 2>Is that the main purpose of your call?

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<v Speaker 8>No, the main purpose of my call is having to

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<v Speaker 8>do with ess.

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<v Speaker 21>I mean they're saying that the around my house on

2095
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<v Speaker 21>the south side where the fire was at, that is

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<v Speaker 21>where this would be. But they don't have it contained

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<v Speaker 21>or anything there. It's flying ill bound in everything else.

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<v Speaker 2>No, I get it.

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<v Speaker 4>So what is the purpose? I'm trying to figure out

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<v Speaker 4>what you want from us? Like, we want to help you.

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<v Speaker 4>What did you call about? What is your main question?

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<v Speaker 8>Can my stuff in the house be cleaned?

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<v Speaker 4>Okay, That's what I'm trying to figure out. So let's

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<v Speaker 4>get Rock on and we might have to have you

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<v Speaker 4>on tomorrow.

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<v Speaker 2>We have Rock.

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<v Speaker 4>Who is with American Restoration twenty four to seven. He's

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<v Speaker 4>a good guy and he knows a lot about this.

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<v Speaker 4>I want to ask him, not necessarily that you hire him,

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<v Speaker 4>but I want to ask him about the procedure when

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<v Speaker 4>it comes to asbestos. So hang on there, I gotta

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<v Speaker 4>take Do I have to take this break?

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<v Speaker 2>Am I behind here?

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<v Speaker 1>Bro?

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<v Speaker 4>Okay, I'm going to take this break. Three oh three

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<v Speaker 4>seven one three eight two five five. Hang on, Renetta,

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<v Speaker 4>go with a sure thing Denver's best roofer Excel Roofing

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<v Speaker 4>dot com.

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<v Speaker 5>You don't pay a cent until you're content.

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<v Speaker 4>Wait time for an insurance check up free, no obligation

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<v Speaker 4>in comparison, call Compass Insurance paying too much your coverage

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<v Speaker 4>at dozens of insurance companies find out now three oh

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<v Speaker 4>three seven to seven to one help. You'll think you're

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<v Speaker 4>his only customer when you choose Frank durand the real

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<v Speaker 4>estate Man dot com to list your home with Remax

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<v Speaker 4>Alliance three oh three nine two zero sixteen twenty two.

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<v Speaker 4>Hi Tom Martino here three oh three seven on three

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<v Speaker 4>talks seven on three eight two five five. Let's get

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<v Speaker 4>rock on from American Restoration twenty four to seven and

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<v Speaker 4>rest two four to seven dot com. Hey Rock, Yes,

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<v Speaker 4>how you doing Rock? So on on this kind.

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<v Speaker 2>Of asbestos stuff.

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<v Speaker 4>She has. She had a fire in her house. They

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<v Speaker 4>discovered asbestos in some areas, just two main areas, and

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<v Speaker 4>then they said out in the garage there was some

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<v Speaker 4>asbestos that showed up in the air, and they believe

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<v Speaker 4>that is from her tracking it into the garage from

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<v Speaker 4>the house. Now, Renetta, I want to ask you something.

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<v Speaker 4>After the fire, did you move anything from the house

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<v Speaker 4>into the garage?

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<v Speaker 3>No?

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<v Speaker 2>Okay. They just think from you moving in and out

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<v Speaker 2>of the garage that you can tab minated it. Yeah, okay.

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<v Speaker 2>Now my next question for you.

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<v Speaker 4>Are they saying you need to throw away all of

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<v Speaker 4>your personal property in the house and garage?

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<v Speaker 12>Ye?

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<v Speaker 4>Yes, okay, And you want to know and here's the

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<v Speaker 4>sixty four thousand dollars question rock.

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<v Speaker 2>Can personal belongings be cleaned.

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<v Speaker 22>Out of scent? Clothing can be laundered. Now, couches and

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<v Speaker 22>things of that nature. I would render those, you know,

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<v Speaker 22>because those are deep, deep set type of things.

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<v Speaker 2>You throw them out, those out, I would throw them out.

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<v Speaker 22>Anything stofts, anything steel can be cleaned to to industry standards.

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<v Speaker 22>Clothes can be laundered, and I would just do it

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<v Speaker 22>on that basis.

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<v Speaker 17>You know what, what.

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<v Speaker 2>About plastic stuff? What about plastic stuff?

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<v Speaker 22>Yes, if it's if it's if it's you know, TV,

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<v Speaker 22>a TV, even though you just spent one thousand dollars

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<v Speaker 22>on a brand new TV. It's yours under your discretion

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<v Speaker 22>to clean it and keep it. But it would never

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<v Speaker 22>be one hundred percent cleaned or or should we should say, uh,

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<v Speaker 22>contaminant free. Now, because of the nature of fire, those

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<v Speaker 22>the whole place is pretty much considered contaminated garage. If

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<v Speaker 22>the ac of the ventilation systemas on the fire renders

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<v Speaker 22>quite a bit contaminated. That's just the nature of fire.

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<v Speaker 22>There's nothing anybody and those fibers are very very small.

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<v Speaker 22>They can be around very easy.

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<v Speaker 4>So here's the thing, Renetta, your question was, can your

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<v Speaker 4>personal belongings be cleaned? Rock is saying yes, under certain circumstances,

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<v Speaker 4>they can be cleaned.

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<v Speaker 21>Why it in front of the fire.

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<v Speaker 2>Is there someone else talking to you, Renetta?

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<v Speaker 4>I get the feeling you're talking to someone else, are you, Renetta?

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<v Speaker 8>Yes?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, see yes, put that person. Put that person on

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<v Speaker 4>the phone. Just put them on the phone, so we

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<v Speaker 4>don't have the relay tag. Just put them on the phone.

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<v Speaker 8>Part of the question is if the garage was closed

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<v Speaker 8>and secured, not attached to the house in which the

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<v Speaker 8>fire was happened, right, why would the garage even be

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<v Speaker 8>part the situation? Being said? There was no testing, there

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<v Speaker 8>was no checking, the doors were not open. It wasn't

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<v Speaker 8>like it was everything was closed.

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<v Speaker 4>They want to know why the garage is even included

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<v Speaker 4>in this whole mess.

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<v Speaker 2>Rock.

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<v Speaker 22>If the testing proves that they're if there's contamination, you

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<v Speaker 22>know you I can't argue with testing at That's why

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<v Speaker 22>you do laboratory testing. It's their property, it's it's the

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<v Speaker 22>it's it's they can choose to inhabit or have this

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<v Speaker 22>clean to industry standards. It's under their discretion.

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<v Speaker 2>But so here's what I'm asking Rock.

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<v Speaker 4>There is no law or requirement if if if if

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<v Speaker 4>they say, if this company is saying you got to

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<v Speaker 4>throw your stuff out and you can't use the garage,

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, we got to clean the garage. Can they

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<v Speaker 4>simply refuse that service or is there any law that

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<v Speaker 4>says they have to have it done.

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<v Speaker 22>No, there's no law. No, it's their stuff. It is

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<v Speaker 22>their stuff out there.

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<v Speaker 11>Now.

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<v Speaker 22>If they are property managers or they have renters, that's

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<v Speaker 22>a different situation. But if it's their house and they

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<v Speaker 22>want to live in it's it's up to their their discretion.

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<v Speaker 2>Now, So Renetta, Renetta and your friend, they're saying, you

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<v Speaker 2>don't have to go by each and every recommendation of

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<v Speaker 2>the company.

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<v Speaker 4>You can pick and choose what you want to do, okay.

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<v Speaker 4>And that's and with that, I got to take a break.

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<v Speaker 4>So Renetta, I mean, you're welcome to come back on

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<v Speaker 4>with Rock tomorrow and we'll get more into it directly.

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<v Speaker 4>And if you want him to come over and look

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<v Speaker 4>at it, he can do that too, But I have

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<v Speaker 4>to take this break. Rock was with American Restoration twenty

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<v Speaker 4>four to seven amrest two four seven dot com.

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<v Speaker 2>More coming right up.
