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<v Speaker 1>Today, I want to tell you about a journey that

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<v Speaker 1>I've been on for most of my life. Ever since

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<v Speaker 1>I was a kid, I've heard tales of Bigfoot and

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<v Speaker 1>wild men while spending time with my friends and family.

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<v Speaker 1>As I grew older and read more about the paranormal,

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<v Speaker 1>my interest in encryptids and other things strange only deepened.

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<v Speaker 2>Now, what are your reporting? I got a screen going

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<v Speaker 2>on here. Something just kid with my dog. Something killed

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<v Speaker 2>your dog?

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<v Speaker 3>My dog?

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<v Speaker 2>We're flying through there over the tree. I don't know

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<v Speaker 2>how it did it? Okay, Damn, I'm really confused. All

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<v Speaker 2>I saw was my dog coming over the fence, and

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<v Speaker 2>they would dead once you hit the ground. I didn't

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<v Speaker 2>see any cars. All I saw was my dog coming

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<v Speaker 2>over the fence. Sat, what are you reporting? We got

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<v Speaker 2>some wonder or something crawling around out here? Did you

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<v Speaker 2>see what it was? It was enough out here looking.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm new to window now and I don't see anything.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't want to go outside. He is white. Hello,

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<v Speaker 2>hit the boddy out here? What quent on out there's

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<v Speaker 2>thought of a bit of about sixty nine? I don't

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<v Speaker 2>know easy out there? Yeah, I'm buking right ahady oh.

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<v Speaker 3>A, greetings spread Alaska. Thanks for joining me today. What

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<v Speaker 3>I wanted to share with you today comes from listening

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<v Speaker 3>him Tim. Now, Tim's in a pecurious spot. He is

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<v Speaker 3>a law enforcement professional. When he started his career, see

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<v Speaker 3>at par in Alaska, we got three different types of

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<v Speaker 3>state troopers. You got your patrol troopers, which are the

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<v Speaker 3>blue shirts. You got your gray shirts, which is JSO,

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<v Speaker 3>which is Judicial services. And then you have fishing game.

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<v Speaker 3>We don't have game wardens. They're actually state troopers. They'll

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<v Speaker 3>rest your ass, take your shit anyway. You basically forfeit

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<v Speaker 3>everything if you're out coaching up here in Alaska. The truck,

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<v Speaker 3>you use, the boat, everything. So Tim, when he first

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<v Speaker 3>started his service many years ago, he started in the

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<v Speaker 3>fishing game field. He asked me to omit exactly where

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<v Speaker 3>this occurred. He hasn't been in the fishing game portion

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<v Speaker 3>of the establishment in a very long time. He's coming

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<v Speaker 3>up on retirement, but he wanted to share this under

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<v Speaker 3>a few guidelines, So we're going to omit where exactly

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<v Speaker 3>it was and his exact name. I just appreciate him

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<v Speaker 3>coming forward and being willing to share. He was in

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<v Speaker 3>his field training portion, just got out of his field

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<v Speaker 3>training portion. The fishing game troopers get to play with

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<v Speaker 3>the boats, the snow machines, the four wheelers, side by

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<v Speaker 3>sides and all that, whereas patrol guys are just in

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<v Speaker 3>the squad cars, responding to nine one one calls and

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<v Speaker 3>all that kind of stuff, so he was stoked. He

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<v Speaker 3>grew up in Alaska, but all the stories he heard

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<v Speaker 3>when he was young about hairy man, little people and

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<v Speaker 3>all this, he dismissed it. It was just like a

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<v Speaker 3>fanciful It was part of oral history culture. Blah blah blah.

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<v Speaker 3>Tim is at the baskin. He's literally the first time

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<v Speaker 3>out on his own, feeling himself out. He's got a

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<v Speaker 3>certain route, he's patrolling. Its hunting season. He's basically out

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<v Speaker 3>there to check make sure everyone's on the up and up,

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<v Speaker 3>you got your hunting license whatever. One of their issues,

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<v Speaker 3>he was saying, they run into is radio contact. So

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<v Speaker 3>what they have to do is they had strategic locations

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<v Speaker 3>where they can get up high enough to relay let's say,

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<v Speaker 3>run someone for a warrants or make sure something running

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<v Speaker 3>a gun, ven number to make sure serial number, make

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<v Speaker 3>sure it's not stolen, and that kind of thing. They

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<v Speaker 3>had a relay set up. So on this particular patrol

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<v Speaker 3>he was doing, he's way back up in there to

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<v Speaker 3>where he can't even he has to go many miles

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<v Speaker 3>just to start a relay via radio. He was by

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<v Speaker 3>himself sitting there. One morning, the fog rows a little

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<v Speaker 3>bit it was hunting season for moose, cariboo and whatnot.

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<v Speaker 3>He hears a gunshot off in the distance on this

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<v Speaker 3>particular trail he was on, so he stopped with what

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<v Speaker 3>he was doing and goes, okay, perfect, I'm going to

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<v Speaker 3>go and check make sure these guys are on the up.

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<v Speaker 3>And that gunshot sounded about a mile away or so.

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<v Speaker 3>Let me go down trail see if I could find

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<v Speaker 3>these guys and do my job. Basically, so Tim said,

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<v Speaker 3>as he was going this particular trail he was on

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<v Speaker 3>across a little bit of some muskegg and then it

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<v Speaker 3>cuts up and it elevates, he said, about three hundred

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<v Speaker 3>feet up onto this trail that kind of cuts around

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<v Speaker 3>this mountain and it drops back down. And he assumed

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<v Speaker 3>it was on that other sidewhere it dropped back down

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<v Speaker 3>because he had been on this trail a couple times before.

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<v Speaker 3>So he gets up there and he's up on this

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<v Speaker 3>plateau wrapping around this mountain, and just as he's about

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<v Speaker 3>to come dropping down back into the little valley there,

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<v Speaker 3>all of a sudden, these two guys on four we

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<v Speaker 3>just come flying up it, right, So immediately he's off

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<v Speaker 3>to the side trail. These guys see him, and they

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<v Speaker 3>look relieved. Right, these two hunters, they immediately stopped. Hey,

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<v Speaker 3>down there, we just shot a moose. They're panic circum

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<v Speaker 3>So he's like, calm down, what happened? Are you injured?

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<v Speaker 3>He thought they were rushing for medical help because he

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<v Speaker 3>said their eyes were bulging out of their heads, freaking out.

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<v Speaker 3>So he calms them down. He's talking to him. He

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<v Speaker 3>finally gets them to calm down enough where he's understanding

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<v Speaker 3>what they're saying, because they're both talking a million miles

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<v Speaker 3>an hour and he's not hearing any of it. He's

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<v Speaker 3>just hearing a monster and something else, and he's thinking,

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<v Speaker 3>we shot a monster moose and something. So calms him

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<v Speaker 3>down and gets one of them to talk. The guy

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<v Speaker 3>commences to telling him that, hey, we saw ourselves illegal moose.

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<v Speaker 3>We shot it just a little while ago, just minutes ago.

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<v Speaker 3>It was right where the moose. It trotted a few

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<v Speaker 3>yards and then flopped right up against the brush. It

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<v Speaker 3>was actually pushing some brush over, some of the willows

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<v Speaker 3>and stuff over where it fell. And he said, as

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<v Speaker 3>we were going up on it to make sure it

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<v Speaker 3>was dead, we heard a grouse, so we thought it

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<v Speaker 3>was a bear, and they had been sitting there quiet

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<v Speaker 3>for so long, and they figured, okay, we'll fire up

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<v Speaker 3>the four wheeler, wrap up the four wheeler and drag

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<v Speaker 3>the moose a little further away from the brush, and

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<v Speaker 3>then got it and do our thing. So, he said,

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<v Speaker 3>he backed up his wheeler and they tied it off

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<v Speaker 3>to the hoofs of the moose, all four hoofs, and

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<v Speaker 3>were starting to pull it when all of a sudden,

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<v Speaker 3>the front end of his wheeler starts coming up. Because

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<v Speaker 3>he's just doing this thing, about to tow this moose,

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<v Speaker 3>his buddy wasn't even paying attention. His buddy was smoking

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<v Speaker 3>a cigarette, basically just waiting for him to get done

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<v Speaker 3>so they could get to work gutting and quartering the

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<v Speaker 3>thing up. The guy explained to Tim that as his

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<v Speaker 3>wheeler all of a sudden pulled up, he let off

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<v Speaker 3>the throttle, and all of a sudden, his wheeler was

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<v Speaker 3>getting pulled backwards, and he was like, what the hell,

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<v Speaker 3>So he jumps off with the wheeler, and as he

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<v Speaker 3>jumps off of it, he tumbles and lands on his butt,

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<v Speaker 3>facing back towards the brush. And he said, this thing

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<v Speaker 3>had two hands on the moose, one around the neck

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<v Speaker 3>and one kind of around the gut, and it was

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<v Speaker 3>stopping him from pulling, and this thing was looking at

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<v Speaker 3>him in his eyes. Now the trooper was like, he

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<v Speaker 3>was suspecting this guy was feeding him a line of

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<v Speaker 3>shit because he shot something. He shit, maybe it was illegal.

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<v Speaker 3>It wasn't quite fifty inches. He's hearing him, but something's

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<v Speaker 3>off about this guy's story, so he hears him out.

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<v Speaker 3>The guy says, as soon as I saw that, I

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<v Speaker 3>jumped up. I pulled the pin on my little toe,

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<v Speaker 3>hitch on my wheeler. My buddy jumped on his, and

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<v Speaker 3>we came up quarter mile back behind us, we ran

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<v Speaker 3>into you here. He goes, okay, So he takes the

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<v Speaker 3>information and at this point these guys are like, I'll

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<v Speaker 3>leave my freaking wallet with you. I'm out of here.

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<v Speaker 3>You know you can return it mail to me. I

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<v Speaker 3>don't give a flying rats ass, I'm out here. That

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<v Speaker 3>they were adamant about getting the hell out of there, so,

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<v Speaker 3>being skeptical, he thought they were trying to avoid potential

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<v Speaker 3>prosecution or lose their stuff. He thought they were up

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<v Speaker 3>to no good because a monster and this and that,

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<v Speaker 3>and okay, you don't want to be near me right now,

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<v Speaker 3>it's just for him. It was a lot of red flags.

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<v Speaker 3>He was a rookie, he was this. He was like, no,

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<v Speaker 3>you guys are going to stay right here. I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 3>arrest you both. That's when they started saying, then F

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<v Speaker 3>and arrest us, F and arrest us. But you're going

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<v Speaker 3>to arrest us over there where it's safe. It ain't

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<v Speaker 3>safe here, And they kept saying this, right, and so

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<v Speaker 3>he goes, okay, calm down, because you've got to understand,

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<v Speaker 3>he's by himself and these two are armed people that

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<v Speaker 3>are freaking out. So he decides to go a diplomatic crowd.

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<v Speaker 3>He goes, allow me, I'm gonna go down. I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 3>check it out real quick. It's not that far. You

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<v Speaker 3>guys stay here, keep an eye out for this monster,

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<v Speaker 3>and I'm going to go and check this out.

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<v Speaker 2>Right.

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<v Speaker 3>Tim said that the look of relief on these guys's

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<v Speaker 3>face when he said he would go alone, because at

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<v Speaker 3>first he was wanting them to follow him back and

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<v Speaker 3>they weren't going nowhere. They made it clear they wanted

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<v Speaker 3>to go, but they agreed to stay there. So he goes,

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<v Speaker 3>don't make me chase you guys down. I got your

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<v Speaker 3>name I'd hate for it to get prosecuted or something

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<v Speaker 3>like that. Just don't run off on me, guys kind

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<v Speaker 3>of thing. So Tim said, he got on his wheeler,

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<v Speaker 3>he went down the hill. He went right to where

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<v Speaker 3>they said they were, and he comes up on the

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<v Speaker 3>scene and he could see where the brush was still

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<v Speaker 3>pushed over from where the moose had fallen, and he

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<v Speaker 3>saw the bottom of the moose legs from the upper

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<v Speaker 3>hinge point on their legs snapped off and they're still

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<v Speaker 3>attached to the ropes that he was towing it with.

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<v Speaker 3>Same with the hitch. Everything was right there except the moose.

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<v Speaker 3>All four hoofs were there, still attached to the rope

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<v Speaker 3>but broken off. Tim said it was so surreal as

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<v Speaker 3>he's sitting on the wheeler, he killed the motor, and

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<v Speaker 3>he's standing up on the wheeler looking down at this scene.

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<v Speaker 3>And he said, as he's looking at it, trying to

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<v Speaker 3>assess what the hell am I actually looking at, because

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<v Speaker 3>he said, it looked like someone that came and just

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<v Speaker 3>hoof a little ways and it was gone. That's the

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<v Speaker 3>best he could come up with because there was no blood,

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<v Speaker 3>he gets off the wheeler and as he's standing there,

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<v Speaker 3>down some notes, time of day, location, this kind of stuff, right,

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<v Speaker 3>and he's taken out a lethal round and he's putting

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<v Speaker 3>a little rubber bomb to shoot this bear in the

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<v Speaker 3>It was just what the hell's going on here? Right,

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<v Speaker 3>So as he's assessing, he redoes the load in the shotgun.

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<v Speaker 3>As he's doing so, he keeps hearing this noise and

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<v Speaker 3>it's moving from directly in front of him, out of

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<v Speaker 3>view inside the willows, off to his left, the little ways,

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<v Speaker 3>and he said, all his training kicked in at that point,

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<v Speaker 3>because it was one thing to hear what he thought

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<v Speaker 3>hear this movement and the way it was moving. He

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<v Speaker 3>had heard plenty of bears moving through the brush, and

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<v Speaker 3>something told him it was not a bear. So he's

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<v Speaker 3>got his four wheeler now between him and the noise.

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<v Speaker 3>He wanted a barrier to at least if it was

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<v Speaker 3>a bear rushing out, it would hit the wheeler first

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<v Speaker 3>and give him some reaction time. So he's going through

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<v Speaker 3>that and he's so caught up in what the hell

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<v Speaker 3>is going on in front of him. He didn't even

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<v Speaker 3>hear the two guys on a four wheeler come down

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<v Speaker 3>behind him, because from what he said, they were standing

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<v Speaker 3>up there and said they couldn't allow him to be

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<v Speaker 3>down there by himself with what they saw. To this point,

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<v Speaker 3>they had never fully explained and he didn't fully hear

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<v Speaker 3>what they saw. They were just freaking out. From what

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<v Speaker 3>Tim said, they came down and all of a sudden

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<v Speaker 3>he realized they were there, and they were standing there

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<v Speaker 3>with their guns and they're all listening. Right. The guys

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<v Speaker 3>are like pointing, are you hearing this over here? Because

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<v Speaker 3>they're all being quiet, and they're using little hand gestures.

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<v Speaker 3>Tim said it was seeing those guys there and them

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<v Speaker 3>all point the way they were his tension, his shoulders

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<v Speaker 3>felt a little lighter because initially, when he was getting

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<v Speaker 3>behind the four wheeler, he said, in my heart of hearts,

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<v Speaker 3>I felt like I was done. I was all alone.

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<v Speaker 3>That's a powerful thing for a grown man to admit

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<v Speaker 3>to say I was out of my league, especially a

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<v Speaker 3>professional in that field. You don't want to be in

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<v Speaker 3>a position to look any less than the man, so

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<v Speaker 3>to speak. It's a guy thing. So they're all looking

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<v Speaker 3>in that direction. And he said they heard thrashing get

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<v Speaker 3>louder and louder, but it wasn't moving far. It was

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<v Speaker 3>almost like it was just right in one area. The

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<v Speaker 3>thrashing was getting louder and louder. He said, it sounded

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<v Speaker 3>like a woman being murdered, like the most high pitched

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<v Speaker 3>wailing scream he had ever heard in his life. And

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<v Speaker 3>then just so fast a movement. He said, it was

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<v Speaker 3>moving faster than they could track it with their hearing.

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<v Speaker 3>He said it was moving very fast. Once it had

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<v Speaker 3>got in the distance, he popped that worthless rubber bullet

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<v Speaker 3>round out and put in. Lethal was ready to go

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<v Speaker 3>with it. He hadn't seen anything. The two guys were like,

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<v Speaker 3>we told you, and he goes, what, I haven't seen anything,

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<v Speaker 3>and he goes, you don't want to see it. So

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<v Speaker 3>they hear the movement going on, and it's a little

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<v Speaker 3>distance way, so it's not like right up on top

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<v Speaker 3>of them, and so Tim is asking the guys, tell

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<v Speaker 3>me what you saw, tell me what you think this is,

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<v Speaker 3>and the guy commissions telling him it had a black face,

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<v Speaker 3>It had a face like a caveman, had really wide jaw.

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<v Speaker 3>He said, it was monstrously big. It had to bend

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<v Speaker 3>five foot across at the shoulders. He couldn't tell how

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<v Speaker 3>tall it was because when he saw it it was

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<v Speaker 3>squatted down. He could see its knees squatted off to

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<v Speaker 3>the sides. But this thing was just squatted down, holding

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<v Speaker 3>the neck in the belly of the moose. Tim is

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<v Speaker 3>absorbing it and he's kind of okay, these guys are

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<v Speaker 3>Obviously there's something to what they're telling me. I don't

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<v Speaker 3>know exactly what yet, but there's something to it.

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<v Speaker 1>And stay tuned for more Sasquatch out to see will

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<v Speaker 1>be right back after these messages.

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<v Speaker 3>The guy gets done telling him this, they hear movement

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<v Speaker 3>coming back. Tim said that everything in him, all his bravado,

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<v Speaker 3>all his machismo, whatever you want to call it, vacated him.

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<v Speaker 3>He said, it vacated him very quickly. He said he

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<v Speaker 3>felt like a five year old little boy holding daddy's shotgun.

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<v Speaker 3>He was holding the shotgun. This thing, it sounded like

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<v Speaker 3>it was coming directly at him, but at a methodical pace.

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<v Speaker 3>He said. It sounded very deliberate in its approach. It

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<v Speaker 3>was like a kushunk, one step after another in a

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<v Speaker 3>cadence of every second there was another footstep, and he

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<v Speaker 3>said it felt very deliberate. Immediately, he's telling the guys

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<v Speaker 3>be ready, don't accidentally shoot me. Let's get shouldered or

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<v Speaker 3>shoulder here. I don't know what the hell this thing

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<v Speaker 3>is doing. As they're discussing this, all of a sudden,

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<v Speaker 3>it went from ku katun towards them top. It's kaotic sound,

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<v Speaker 3>he said. As they were sitting there trying to figure

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<v Speaker 3>out what direction is coming, because they were hearing noises

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<v Speaker 3>in multiple directions right, it felt like they were surrounded

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<v Speaker 3>by sound. With all the breaking and thrashing going on

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<v Speaker 3>at this point they could see the brush moving, essentially

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<v Speaker 3>walking backwards. Not even realizing it, but they're all walking

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<v Speaker 3>backwards away from this noise. At a certain point, Tim

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<v Speaker 3>said he stopped and got down on one knee because

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<v Speaker 3>he wasn't sure how he was going to deal with

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<v Speaker 3>whatever this is. Once it clears the brush, right, he said,

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<v Speaker 3>it was almost like it comes closer to the edge

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<v Speaker 3>of brushing and back off. Come a little closer than

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<v Speaker 3>back off, you know what I mean. That's the feeling

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<v Speaker 3>he got from the sounds and the way the brush

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<v Speaker 3>was moving. He got that impression, right. So as they're

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<v Speaker 3>standing there doing that, he's down on the knee. These

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<v Speaker 3>other two guys are standing and they're like, we need

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<v Speaker 3>to go, we need to go, and he goes quiet.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm trying to hear. I'm trying to hear. Tim wants

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<v Speaker 3>to see whatever the hell this thing is, right because

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<v Speaker 3>he works out here, so he wants to what the

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<v Speaker 3>hell is this. As he's down on his knee and

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<v Speaker 3>these two guys are quietly chatting and saying, we shouldn't

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<v Speaker 3>be here, we shouldn't be here, all of a sudden,

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<v Speaker 3>he sees something brown clear the top of the brush,

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<v Speaker 3>it's still in the brush, but just above the brush,

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<v Speaker 3>he saw this thing flinging move and they were all

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<v Speaker 3>like backed off real quick because they didn't know what

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<v Speaker 3>the hell it was. It thrashed into the brush, and

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<v Speaker 3>then the guy on the end, not the one immediately

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<v Speaker 3>next to him, but the one further away, said that

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<v Speaker 3>was our moose. So this thing it flung the moose.

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<v Speaker 3>But as they're trying to assess what the hell, all

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<v Speaker 3>of a sudden to hear from where that moose landed.

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<v Speaker 3>They heard thrashing and moving away from them, very loud.

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<v Speaker 3>At this point, he had already just out of Habit

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<v Speaker 3>tried radioing a couple times. He wasn't getting nothing on

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<v Speaker 3>the radio, not a thing. It quiets down a little bit,

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<v Speaker 3>they hear a little bit of a huffy, puffy kind

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<v Speaker 3>of noise, and so they decide, let's get on the

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<v Speaker 3>wheelers and get back up at least up to that plateau,

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<v Speaker 3>because I got distance to go before I can even

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<v Speaker 3>start relaying information, he said. Once they decided they were

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<v Speaker 3>going to jump on the wheel and go, one of

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<v Speaker 3>the guys wheelers, something was wrong with the tyrod. So

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<v Speaker 3>when they came to a stop, he basically lost one

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<v Speaker 3>of the front tires that was kicked out and it

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<v Speaker 3>wasn't going anywhere in the moment. I'm gonna get on

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<v Speaker 3>with you. Talking to his friend, Tim has those guys

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<v Speaker 3>keep an eye on it, watch his back while he's

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<v Speaker 3>fired up his wheeler, and then he was going to

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<v Speaker 3>keep an eye while they got wheelered up and fired

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<v Speaker 3>up and whatnot. So as they're talking and Tim backed

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<v Speaker 3>up his four wheeler and they're still listening because he

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<v Speaker 3>said this noise, this breathing sound that's grunting, was very loud.

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<v Speaker 3>He said it was almost loud to the point where

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<v Speaker 3>you kiell it in your chest, which really bothered him.

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<v Speaker 3>He said his hair was standing up on end. There

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<v Speaker 3>was small talk of it was a bigfoot, this, it

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<v Speaker 3>was a bigfoot that, blah blah blah, and he hadn't

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<v Speaker 3>seen anything. So he's just listening to them going, we

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<v Speaker 3>don't know. So he backs up. They're talking, they get

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<v Speaker 3>on their wheeler and he says, go ahead and go.

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<v Speaker 3>You get up the trail a little ways there by

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<v Speaker 3>that clearing and keep an eye so I can finish

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<v Speaker 3>backing up, turn around and go. So they all agreed.

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<v Speaker 3>They do their thing. Tim was the last one going

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<v Speaker 3>up the hill. He passed those guys. They pulled off

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<v Speaker 3>the side trail, He passed them, They got back up

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<v Speaker 3>to basically where they almost ran into each other. They

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<v Speaker 3>met him back up there, and then he stops, turns

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<v Speaker 3>around and comes back to the edge of the trail

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<v Speaker 3>that drops down into the area they just left. He said,

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<v Speaker 3>it was just off to the right a little bit,

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<v Speaker 3>and there was some brush that kind of obscured, but

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<v Speaker 3>they could still see some of the rope and the

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<v Speaker 3>bottom of the hoofs. He said, the hardest part about

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<v Speaker 3>everything that was going on in that moment is he

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<v Speaker 3>didn't say nothing to the two guys that were with them,

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<v Speaker 3>the hunters that were there, because they were talking amongst

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<v Speaker 3>themselves at this point about they couldn't believe what the

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<v Speaker 3>hell was going on here, talking about all the years

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<v Speaker 3>we've been here and nothing's ever happened. Tim is looking

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<v Speaker 3>down at the scene right. He said, he didn't say

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<v Speaker 3>anything to the guys, but he said he watched this

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<v Speaker 3>thing walk from his right to his li left, basically

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<v Speaker 3>right at that brush line where they just were. Because

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<v Speaker 3>he was just standing there next to those willows and shit,

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<v Speaker 3>he said the willows were at least twelve foot tall

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<v Speaker 3>over him. He said, this thing, the way it was walking,

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<v Speaker 3>was almost as tall. He said it had to have

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<v Speaker 3>been every bit of eleven foot tall. He didn't see

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<v Speaker 3>a face. He saw a very dark looking hair. He

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<v Speaker 3>said it wasn't for it looked like hair. He could

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<v Speaker 3>see the movements of the muscle groups from that distance.

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<v Speaker 3>It was very muscular, very robust. It was monstrously big.

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<v Speaker 3>And he said it walked right to left and then

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<v Speaker 3>cut right into the brush, and a moment later they

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<v Speaker 3>heard a very loud scream and everything went dead quiet,

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<v Speaker 3>and then they didn't hear anything. And he said he

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<v Speaker 3>was continually trying to radio. He was holding up the

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<v Speaker 3>base of his motorola trying to radio and not getting

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<v Speaker 3>any signal. So he basically followed those two out radio.

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<v Speaker 3>Someone responded he got some back up the following day

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<v Speaker 3>because where his particular partner was on a totally different place.

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<v Speaker 3>And it's Alaska, sometimes you won't get trooper service for

416
00:21:11.440 --> 00:21:15.519
<v Speaker 3>a day or two. Anyway, he said, when he came

417
00:21:15.599 --> 00:21:18.720
<v Speaker 3>back with backup, he had told them that it was

418
00:21:18.759 --> 00:21:21.799
<v Speaker 3>apparently a bear ran us off. It was aggressive in

419
00:21:21.839 --> 00:21:23.559
<v Speaker 3>the brush, We didn't want to risk him in life.

420
00:21:23.599 --> 00:21:26.920
<v Speaker 3>We backed away. That's what he initially told his partner

421
00:21:26.920 --> 00:21:30.640
<v Speaker 3>and whatnot. Before they went and dropped down that hill,

422
00:21:31.759 --> 00:21:35.160
<v Speaker 3>he had unslung his shotgun from the holder on the

423
00:21:35.160 --> 00:21:39.440
<v Speaker 3>wheeler and he basically had it in his lap going

424
00:21:39.480 --> 00:21:41.240
<v Speaker 3>down the hill. When they got to the bottom of

425
00:21:41.240 --> 00:21:44.119
<v Speaker 3>the hill, he was called out on while you got

426
00:21:44.160 --> 00:21:46.680
<v Speaker 3>the shotgun out right now, that bear must have startled

427
00:21:46.720 --> 00:21:49.000
<v Speaker 3>you because his partner had been doing this shit for

428
00:21:49.079 --> 00:21:51.920
<v Speaker 3>years and stuff, and so busted his chops a little bit.

429
00:21:52.000 --> 00:21:54.240
<v Speaker 3>And Tim was like, it was a very big bear.

430
00:21:54.400 --> 00:21:56.640
<v Speaker 3>It was the biggest bear I've ever seen. The mussofs

431
00:21:56.680 --> 00:22:00.279
<v Speaker 3>were right there, the ropes, the hitch, everything was just

432
00:22:00.319 --> 00:22:03.400
<v Speaker 3>as he had last seen it. Right, it's all right there.

433
00:22:03.400 --> 00:22:05.920
<v Speaker 3>And his partner goes, man, that is really odd. I've

434
00:22:05.960 --> 00:22:09.680
<v Speaker 3>never seen a bear bite off. It would have drugged

435
00:22:09.680 --> 00:22:12.480
<v Speaker 3>this stuff off. So let's take a look around. He

436
00:22:12.519 --> 00:22:17.279
<v Speaker 3>didn't tell his partner what he saw. He didn't want mockery,

437
00:22:17.359 --> 00:22:19.440
<v Speaker 3>so he was just treating it as a bear incident.

438
00:22:19.599 --> 00:22:22.079
<v Speaker 3>Now his partner wants to go in the direction he

439
00:22:22.119 --> 00:22:25.119
<v Speaker 3>said he last seen the bear. Not too far within

440
00:22:25.160 --> 00:22:28.640
<v Speaker 3>a quarter mile. It reaches a pretty wide creek with

441
00:22:29.480 --> 00:22:34.279
<v Speaker 3>soft enough shores, gravel and sand to where there should

442
00:22:34.319 --> 00:22:36.480
<v Speaker 3>be some tracks of this bear if it did retreat

443
00:22:36.480 --> 00:22:38.240
<v Speaker 3>that way, and let's see if we could find a moose.

444
00:22:38.799 --> 00:22:42.640
<v Speaker 3>Tim was like, Okay, let me tell you what I

445
00:22:42.720 --> 00:22:45.279
<v Speaker 3>really saw, because you're asking me to do something that

446
00:22:45.359 --> 00:22:47.440
<v Speaker 3>everything inside me is telling me. Don't go that way,

447
00:22:47.519 --> 00:22:51.160
<v Speaker 3>don't do it, tells him everything, repeats it all but

448
00:22:51.319 --> 00:22:54.039
<v Speaker 3>in the context of sasquatch.

449
00:22:54.119 --> 00:22:54.279
<v Speaker 4>Right.

450
00:22:55.160 --> 00:22:58.680
<v Speaker 3>Immediately, the guy tells him he want your career to last.

451
00:22:59.279 --> 00:23:02.920
<v Speaker 3>This is a bear incident. Tim immediately asked, why do

452
00:23:03.039 --> 00:23:05.200
<v Speaker 3>I have to be quiet about what I actually saw?

453
00:23:06.319 --> 00:23:09.039
<v Speaker 3>This guy told him There's been times in the past

454
00:23:09.079 --> 00:23:12.480
<v Speaker 3>where I have tried to report what you are reporting.

455
00:23:12.759 --> 00:23:16.160
<v Speaker 3>It went nowhere and it went to a point of

456
00:23:16.400 --> 00:23:20.359
<v Speaker 3>damn near disciplinary actions of some kind. He goes, if

457
00:23:20.400 --> 00:23:22.759
<v Speaker 3>you want to pursue it, just be prepared for a

458
00:23:22.799 --> 00:23:26.519
<v Speaker 3>psyche val and some other stuff. He goes, Okay. His

459
00:23:26.759 --> 00:23:29.839
<v Speaker 3>partner says, it's a bare incident, right, and he goes, yes,

460
00:23:29.880 --> 00:23:32.359
<v Speaker 3>it's a bare incident. And they walked back over there,

461
00:23:32.400 --> 00:23:34.880
<v Speaker 3>and he said that when they got back to that creek,

462
00:23:35.519 --> 00:23:38.559
<v Speaker 3>it was so quiet, and he said, way off in

463
00:23:38.599 --> 00:23:41.839
<v Speaker 3>the distance. He couldn't even begin to guess. There was

464
00:23:41.880 --> 00:23:44.960
<v Speaker 3>the loudest whistle he had ever heard. It was very

465
00:23:44.960 --> 00:23:48.680
<v Speaker 3>hard to distinguish whether it was five hundred eight hundred

466
00:23:48.759 --> 00:23:52.039
<v Speaker 3>yards away, but it was a good distance away, and

467
00:23:52.119 --> 00:23:56.359
<v Speaker 3>it literally was like it wasn't that far. It's one

468
00:23:56.359 --> 00:23:59.480
<v Speaker 3>of those weird things when you hear these screams, whistles,

469
00:23:59.519 --> 00:24:02.880
<v Speaker 3>whatever they maybe, if they're at a distance, it's so

470
00:24:03.160 --> 00:24:07.799
<v Speaker 3>powerful it's hard to even put into context. But anyway,

471
00:24:08.079 --> 00:24:10.920
<v Speaker 3>if they found nothing of the moose, they took the

472
00:24:10.920 --> 00:24:13.319
<v Speaker 3>little toast strap and the hitch what was left of

473
00:24:13.440 --> 00:24:15.720
<v Speaker 3>the moose, chalked it up, did whatever they had to

474
00:24:15.759 --> 00:24:18.279
<v Speaker 3>do as far as their paper work and whatnot. And

475
00:24:18.319 --> 00:24:22.319
<v Speaker 3>he said, over the course of his career being out there,

476
00:24:23.000 --> 00:24:26.079
<v Speaker 3>there was a few more instances of that type of

477
00:24:26.079 --> 00:24:30.200
<v Speaker 3>stuff that he had to deal with. Hopefully, if things

478
00:24:30.279 --> 00:24:35.079
<v Speaker 3>go well, after he's secured his pension and some other stuff,

479
00:24:35.119 --> 00:24:37.279
<v Speaker 3>he will be coming on and sharing in his own words,

480
00:24:37.319 --> 00:24:40.119
<v Speaker 3>that would be awesome. I want to thank Tim for

481
00:24:40.160 --> 00:24:43.799
<v Speaker 3>sharing that. I know you're in a compromise position when

482
00:24:43.799 --> 00:24:46.039
<v Speaker 3>it comes to this kind of stuff. I just want

483
00:24:46.079 --> 00:24:48.160
<v Speaker 3>to thank you for sharing that portion of the things

484
00:24:48.240 --> 00:24:51.559
<v Speaker 3>you've dealt with out here. I'm hoping we can click

485
00:24:51.640 --> 00:24:54.240
<v Speaker 3>soon share some more of those experiences that you had

486
00:24:54.240 --> 00:24:57.839
<v Speaker 3>shared with me. All that aside, what I wanted to

487
00:24:57.880 --> 00:25:01.279
<v Speaker 3>share with you today comes from We'll say her name's Aggie.

488
00:25:01.920 --> 00:25:06.000
<v Speaker 3>She's from a remote village, very superstitious about the hairy man.

489
00:25:06.359 --> 00:25:10.480
<v Speaker 3>I understand. I don't want to dismiss that stems from somewhere.

490
00:25:10.920 --> 00:25:12.839
<v Speaker 3>Is what it is, and I respect it. So I

491
00:25:12.880 --> 00:25:16.039
<v Speaker 3>won't say what village. I won't say her real name,

492
00:25:16.039 --> 00:25:19.200
<v Speaker 3>but Aggie will work. This was back nineteen eighty one.

493
00:25:20.160 --> 00:25:23.880
<v Speaker 3>Aggie was twelve years old. She was watching some younger

494
00:25:23.920 --> 00:25:27.960
<v Speaker 3>relatives and other extended family members that were still too

495
00:25:28.000 --> 00:25:32.279
<v Speaker 3>young for fish camp at her particular village. She had

496
00:25:32.440 --> 00:25:35.400
<v Speaker 3>a three wheeler route at the time that she would

497
00:25:35.440 --> 00:25:37.920
<v Speaker 3>take the kids on a big loop to basically wipe

498
00:25:37.960 --> 00:25:40.400
<v Speaker 3>them out and get them to go to bed after

499
00:25:40.440 --> 00:25:43.200
<v Speaker 3>they ate. Just wear the kids out, you know what

500
00:25:43.279 --> 00:25:46.720
<v Speaker 3>I mean. And so she had four other kids with her.

501
00:25:46.960 --> 00:25:50.359
<v Speaker 3>Remember she's twelve at the time. They started off on

502
00:25:50.400 --> 00:25:54.000
<v Speaker 3>this walk. This particular trail goes up a rise and

503
00:25:54.039 --> 00:25:57.440
<v Speaker 3>then it bowls out into rolling hills and it's all

504
00:25:57.599 --> 00:26:00.440
<v Speaker 3>open tundra. There's some black spruce, but it's way off

505
00:26:00.480 --> 00:26:03.440
<v Speaker 3>in the distance. I asked her about how far and

506
00:26:03.599 --> 00:26:05.880
<v Speaker 3>she just was like, aways off in the distance, So

507
00:26:06.759 --> 00:26:09.000
<v Speaker 3>no big deal. Quite a ways from what she said.

508
00:26:09.400 --> 00:26:12.519
<v Speaker 3>And so they get up on this trail, up on

509
00:26:12.559 --> 00:26:16.440
<v Speaker 3>this rise which is basically an extended shelf and basically

510
00:26:16.440 --> 00:26:19.599
<v Speaker 3>a plateau, and it's bold in the back drop with

511
00:26:19.720 --> 00:26:22.440
<v Speaker 3>these hills. She's got the kids up there, plane tag

512
00:26:22.559 --> 00:26:25.359
<v Speaker 3>and they're all running around in a tundra and tumbling

513
00:26:25.400 --> 00:26:28.119
<v Speaker 3>and just having a good old time, just happy, care

514
00:26:28.160 --> 00:26:30.960
<v Speaker 3>free kids. Ugh, get the chills.

515
00:26:31.000 --> 00:26:31.160
<v Speaker 1>Man.

516
00:26:31.920 --> 00:26:34.279
<v Speaker 3>It bothers me when kids are involved, but it is

517
00:26:34.319 --> 00:26:37.519
<v Speaker 3>what it is. Right. So, as the kids are playing

518
00:26:37.640 --> 00:26:41.920
<v Speaker 3>or whatever, the very smallest one that was four years old,

519
00:26:42.720 --> 00:26:46.319
<v Speaker 3>starts pointing over way back by the trees and saying,

520
00:26:47.279 --> 00:26:50.440
<v Speaker 3>there's a bear. There's a bear. So immediately she hears bear,

521
00:26:50.599 --> 00:26:53.240
<v Speaker 3>Aggie's on it. She's looking for this bear. Because you

522
00:26:53.400 --> 00:26:55.960
<v Speaker 3>want to know parts of that. There's kids involved. Let's

523
00:26:56.000 --> 00:26:58.319
<v Speaker 3>get you guys together. If there's a bear and she's looking,

524
00:26:58.359 --> 00:27:01.519
<v Speaker 3>she doesn't see what the kids saw. And she asked

525
00:27:01.559 --> 00:27:04.720
<v Speaker 3>the little boy, where's this bearer you saw? The little

526
00:27:04.759 --> 00:27:06.759
<v Speaker 3>boy said, it was over there. I don't know where

527
00:27:06.759 --> 00:27:10.359
<v Speaker 3>it went. Okay, obviously the bear the wind was blowing

528
00:27:10.400 --> 00:27:14.240
<v Speaker 3>that direction, so she knows the bear winded them, or

529
00:27:14.359 --> 00:27:17.400
<v Speaker 3>suspects it did, and doesn't know if it's circling or

530
00:27:17.440 --> 00:27:19.960
<v Speaker 3>if it ran away. Because it smelt humans, she did

531
00:27:20.000 --> 00:27:23.960
<v Speaker 3>not know, so she wasn't risking anything. Very attuned to

532
00:27:24.039 --> 00:27:27.759
<v Speaker 3>her environment, as most native villagers are, they pay attention

533
00:27:27.799 --> 00:27:30.079
<v Speaker 3>to their senses. So what Aggie does is has them

534
00:27:30.119 --> 00:27:31.839
<v Speaker 3>all get in the line and walk in front of

535
00:27:31.880 --> 00:27:34.240
<v Speaker 3>her so she can keep an eye out behind them.

536
00:27:34.279 --> 00:27:36.559
<v Speaker 3>She didn't want any little ones in the rears, right,

537
00:27:37.240 --> 00:27:39.799
<v Speaker 3>so she has them going. She said, there are quite

538
00:27:39.799 --> 00:27:42.680
<v Speaker 3>a little ways back there, She's guessing me about a

539
00:27:42.680 --> 00:27:47.079
<v Speaker 3>half mile before they get into more familiar area where

540
00:27:47.079 --> 00:27:49.519
<v Speaker 3>there's starts to be some structures and stuff like that.

541
00:27:49.519 --> 00:27:51.680
<v Speaker 3>There are some old netthouses they had to pass by,

542
00:27:51.720 --> 00:27:54.720
<v Speaker 3>and some other stuff, and so, she said. As the

543
00:27:54.839 --> 00:27:58.920
<v Speaker 3>kids were moving along, she started hearing a very sharp

544
00:27:59.000 --> 00:28:02.119
<v Speaker 3>whistle from behind behind her. But every time she turned

545
00:28:02.119 --> 00:28:04.000
<v Speaker 3>around to look for this whistle, she would not be

546
00:28:04.119 --> 00:28:06.400
<v Speaker 3>able to see what was making the whistling sound. So

547
00:28:06.440 --> 00:28:09.640
<v Speaker 3>she thought maybe it's echoing. Because of that kind of

548
00:28:09.680 --> 00:28:13.240
<v Speaker 3>semicircle bowl of hills, and so she has a kid

549
00:28:13.319 --> 00:28:16.880
<v Speaker 3>stop and they're all just standing there talking amongst each other,

550
00:28:16.960 --> 00:28:19.799
<v Speaker 3>just being kids. And so she's head on a swovel

551
00:28:19.799 --> 00:28:23.960
<v Speaker 3>looking around trying to pinpoint this whistle. She didn't see anything,

552
00:28:24.000 --> 00:28:26.519
<v Speaker 3>so she tells the kids to keep going. When they're

553
00:28:26.519 --> 00:28:30.200
<v Speaker 3>coming back down this rise, they run into black spruce

554
00:28:30.359 --> 00:28:33.440
<v Speaker 3>and some willows and stuff further down the trail, and

555
00:28:33.480 --> 00:28:36.240
<v Speaker 3>they got to go right through. It's a little bit

556
00:28:36.240 --> 00:28:38.640
<v Speaker 3>of a pinch point because you got the brush filling

557
00:28:38.680 --> 00:28:41.319
<v Speaker 3>in onto the trail. So they got all this open

558
00:28:41.359 --> 00:28:43.960
<v Speaker 3>expanse and it bottled next down to this little bit

559
00:28:43.960 --> 00:28:47.920
<v Speaker 3>of a trail that's approximately one hundred yards long, and

560
00:28:48.000 --> 00:28:50.799
<v Speaker 3>it varies in its depth of density of brush, but

561
00:28:51.400 --> 00:28:54.799
<v Speaker 3>it's all willows and black spruce. Maybe a couple pine

562
00:28:54.839 --> 00:28:57.279
<v Speaker 3>in there or something like that, but just real basic

563
00:28:57.359 --> 00:28:59.880
<v Speaker 3>Alaska tree line. She said, as they got close to

564
00:29:00.559 --> 00:29:03.119
<v Speaker 3>where they're going to have to go through there, which

565
00:29:03.160 --> 00:29:05.400
<v Speaker 3>and it wasn't like they had to push through sideways

566
00:29:05.480 --> 00:29:08.359
<v Speaker 3>or nothing. It was wide enough they could walk unrestricted

567
00:29:08.400 --> 00:29:12.440
<v Speaker 3>through there. It was just brush, real tight, she said.

568
00:29:12.480 --> 00:29:16.200
<v Speaker 3>They got about maybe one hundred feet she's guessing from

569
00:29:16.240 --> 00:29:18.240
<v Speaker 3>that trail where they have to go through there, and

570
00:29:18.279 --> 00:29:21.440
<v Speaker 3>she heard the whistle again. When she heard the whistle,

571
00:29:21.480 --> 00:29:23.920
<v Speaker 3>this time it's in a very close off to her

572
00:29:24.039 --> 00:29:28.000
<v Speaker 3>left somewhere she could not pinpoint it. The kids all shriek,

573
00:29:28.599 --> 00:29:33.480
<v Speaker 3>almost simultaneously, all little kids shriek, and they're all pointing,

574
00:29:33.519 --> 00:29:38.160
<v Speaker 3>and they all turn and start running away a opposite direction,

575
00:29:38.720 --> 00:29:41.640
<v Speaker 3>and so immediately she stopped, don't run. She gets them

576
00:29:41.680 --> 00:29:43.640
<v Speaker 3>to stop running, and they're all turning and pointing back.

577
00:29:43.720 --> 00:29:47.240
<v Speaker 3>And initially she didn't see what they saw. She turns

578
00:29:47.319 --> 00:29:50.240
<v Speaker 3>and it was like her third look over, she noticed

579
00:29:50.359 --> 00:29:53.680
<v Speaker 3>this thing stick its head up, looking up above the brush,

580
00:29:54.359 --> 00:29:57.119
<v Speaker 3>and at that point it was very near the trail

581
00:29:57.240 --> 00:29:58.119
<v Speaker 3>they had to use.

582
00:30:00.119 --> 00:30:01.960
<v Speaker 1>Stay tuned for more sasquatch out to see.

583
00:30:01.960 --> 00:30:09.440
<v Speaker 3>We'll be right back. After these messages creeped her out,

584
00:30:09.599 --> 00:30:12.480
<v Speaker 3>freaked her out immediately, and so she started yelling, hey,

585
00:30:12.559 --> 00:30:15.079
<v Speaker 3>get out of here, bear, hey, bear, just waving her hands,

586
00:30:15.119 --> 00:30:18.240
<v Speaker 3>making herself bigger. She opened up her coat or windbreaking,

587
00:30:18.480 --> 00:30:22.400
<v Speaker 3>was making herself bigger. And as she's doing that, this

588
00:30:22.440 --> 00:30:25.839
<v Speaker 3>thing stands up. So from what she was saying, the

589
00:30:25.880 --> 00:30:29.240
<v Speaker 3>brush is about five feet high where this thing was

590
00:30:29.279 --> 00:30:31.480
<v Speaker 3>where she initially just saw the top of its head

591
00:30:31.480 --> 00:30:34.160
<v Speaker 3>and had no idea really what it was because all

592
00:30:34.200 --> 00:30:37.039
<v Speaker 3>she saw was just the top. And then she said,

593
00:30:37.079 --> 00:30:39.759
<v Speaker 3>when it stood up, it was like it seemed like

594
00:30:39.759 --> 00:30:41.880
<v Speaker 3>it was never going to stop. It just kept going

595
00:30:41.960 --> 00:30:43.839
<v Speaker 3>up and up, and then finally when it did stop,

596
00:30:44.759 --> 00:30:47.640
<v Speaker 3>it's doing this number with his head and she's still

597
00:30:47.680 --> 00:30:51.240
<v Speaker 3>holding her coat open. She's holding her coat open, she's yelling,

598
00:30:51.920 --> 00:30:54.119
<v Speaker 3>and this thing is just tweaking his head back and forth,

599
00:30:54.200 --> 00:30:56.640
<v Speaker 3>looking right at her. I asked her what it looked like,

600
00:30:56.839 --> 00:30:59.839
<v Speaker 3>and she couldn't see because the way the lighting was,

601
00:31:00.119 --> 00:31:02.720
<v Speaker 3>its face was silhouetted because it was lit from behind

602
00:31:02.759 --> 00:31:07.680
<v Speaker 3>with the daylight. She couldn't make out anything really, she said.

603
00:31:07.920 --> 00:31:10.119
<v Speaker 3>At the point where she had the kids stop running

604
00:31:11.160 --> 00:31:13.640
<v Speaker 3>to where this thing was maybe one hundred feet, which

605
00:31:14.000 --> 00:31:17.440
<v Speaker 3>is not very far at all, especially with something that big.

606
00:31:18.119 --> 00:31:20.839
<v Speaker 3>I asked her if she would guesstimate how much taller

607
00:31:20.839 --> 00:31:22.799
<v Speaker 3>than the five foot it was. She said, it was

608
00:31:22.799 --> 00:31:25.480
<v Speaker 3>at least double the height of what the brush was,

609
00:31:26.119 --> 00:31:28.480
<v Speaker 3>and she's guessing it is about five foot talk, so

610
00:31:28.519 --> 00:31:31.039
<v Speaker 3>this thing was at least ten foot. As she's standing

611
00:31:31.119 --> 00:31:35.359
<v Speaker 3>her yelling, all the other kids started mimicking her. They

612
00:31:35.359 --> 00:31:38.559
<v Speaker 3>were holding their coats, We started screaming. Little four year

613
00:31:38.599 --> 00:31:41.000
<v Speaker 3>old boy was talking about throwing a stick at it

614
00:31:41.039 --> 00:31:44.079
<v Speaker 3>to scare it away. She calms them down and stuff.

615
00:31:44.079 --> 00:31:46.799
<v Speaker 3>And as she's telling the kids to just stay calm,

616
00:31:46.880 --> 00:31:50.559
<v Speaker 3>stay still, don't run, this thing goes back into cover,

617
00:31:51.240 --> 00:31:53.319
<v Speaker 3>just lowers back down in the brush and she hears

618
00:31:53.359 --> 00:31:57.200
<v Speaker 3>it start moving away. So she's okay, calm down, kids,

619
00:31:57.680 --> 00:32:01.039
<v Speaker 3>And she said she heard it going through the brush.

620
00:32:01.160 --> 00:32:03.400
<v Speaker 3>Because she's heard moos go through the brush plenty, she

621
00:32:03.440 --> 00:32:05.920
<v Speaker 3>knows what she was hearing. This thing was moving away.

622
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<v Speaker 3>As she's focused on the sound of it moving away,

623
00:32:10.200 --> 00:32:13.480
<v Speaker 3>she heard rustling onto the right hand side of this

624
00:32:13.519 --> 00:32:16.720
<v Speaker 3>trail that cuts through these trees. This trail cuts through

625
00:32:16.799 --> 00:32:19.720
<v Speaker 3>off to the right. This one stood up over on

626
00:32:19.759 --> 00:32:22.640
<v Speaker 3>the left, but off to the right, she heard rustling smaller.

627
00:32:22.880 --> 00:32:25.880
<v Speaker 3>She could tell it was smaller as they were looking

628
00:32:25.920 --> 00:32:28.599
<v Speaker 3>at the direction of the sound. She says she saw

629
00:32:28.640 --> 00:32:32.000
<v Speaker 3>two little ones rush through the brush right across the

630
00:32:32.000 --> 00:32:34.480
<v Speaker 3>trail real fast. She says she couldn't tell if they

631
00:32:34.480 --> 00:32:36.839
<v Speaker 3>were on two feet or four feet because they were

632
00:32:36.880 --> 00:32:40.480
<v Speaker 3>just moving. And immediately the kids shrieked and she's calming

633
00:32:40.480 --> 00:32:42.160
<v Speaker 3>them down. She was just like it was just a

634
00:32:42.200 --> 00:32:45.160
<v Speaker 3>mama bear with cubs, because she didn't want to freak

635
00:32:45.200 --> 00:32:47.960
<v Speaker 3>the kids out. The second oldest one was nine years old,

636
00:32:48.279 --> 00:32:51.200
<v Speaker 3>a savvy little girl said that ain't no damn bear,

637
00:32:52.359 --> 00:32:54.160
<v Speaker 3>and so she was like, just be quiet, and all

638
00:32:54.160 --> 00:32:56.720
<v Speaker 3>the other kids, of course being kids, they start questioning,

639
00:32:57.519 --> 00:32:59.720
<v Speaker 3>it's not a bear. What was that? That was a

640
00:32:59.720 --> 00:33:02.599
<v Speaker 3>man and that was a big man. And the nine

641
00:33:02.680 --> 00:33:04.200
<v Speaker 3>year old was like, that was a hairy man. That

642
00:33:04.240 --> 00:33:06.319
<v Speaker 3>was a hairy man, And all the kids immediately start

643
00:33:06.319 --> 00:33:08.920
<v Speaker 3>getting closer together and they're holding on to her, and

644
00:33:09.720 --> 00:33:13.559
<v Speaker 3>Aggie's calmed down. Just listen, and they listened. The big

645
00:33:13.599 --> 00:33:16.720
<v Speaker 3>movement and the two smaller movements eventually caught up sound

646
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<v Speaker 3>wise to each other, and they listened for a second.

647
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<v Speaker 3>Then she goes, we need to go, and that's when

648
00:33:21.640 --> 00:33:26.319
<v Speaker 3>they all cut through the trail. So fast forward to

649
00:33:26.400 --> 00:33:30.680
<v Speaker 3>later on that evening. One of their elder relatives would

650
00:33:30.799 --> 00:33:33.640
<v Speaker 3>usually check on them a few times a day, so

651
00:33:33.680 --> 00:33:35.920
<v Speaker 3>it happened she comes over to check on them, and

652
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<v Speaker 3>all the kids lit up at once about there was

653
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<v Speaker 3>a hairy man. With the older relative being concerned, she

654
00:33:41.279 --> 00:33:44.000
<v Speaker 3>just had all the kids come with her back over

655
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<v Speaker 3>to her house. She stayed back from fish camp to

656
00:33:46.799 --> 00:33:50.440
<v Speaker 3>watch the kids and have an adult around. I want

657
00:33:50.480 --> 00:33:54.799
<v Speaker 3>to thank Aggie because there was nothing overly dramatic that happened.

658
00:33:55.119 --> 00:33:57.440
<v Speaker 3>It was just a visual sighting and then the movement

659
00:33:57.480 --> 00:34:00.319
<v Speaker 3>and stuff. But she said the way she felt when

660
00:34:00.359 --> 00:34:03.920
<v Speaker 3>this thing was eyeball on her, she didn't feel like

661
00:34:04.000 --> 00:34:07.680
<v Speaker 3>she was in immediate danger. She just felt like this

662
00:34:07.720 --> 00:34:11.079
<v Speaker 3>thing was watching her to see if they were dangerous.

663
00:34:11.119 --> 00:34:13.960
<v Speaker 3>The kids were dangerous. And then once all the kids

664
00:34:14.000 --> 00:34:16.880
<v Speaker 3>started opening their coach and making themselves bigger, and it

665
00:34:17.000 --> 00:34:20.599
<v Speaker 3>got back down and took off, she said. She distinctly

666
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<v Speaker 3>remembers hearing a weird kind of She wasn't sure if

667
00:34:23.639 --> 00:34:25.559
<v Speaker 3>it was a grunt, but she said it sounded like

668
00:34:25.599 --> 00:34:29.559
<v Speaker 3>a burt. And then shortly after that Burt is when

669
00:34:29.679 --> 00:34:32.840
<v Speaker 3>the other movement started. So she suspects that it was

670
00:34:32.880 --> 00:34:35.760
<v Speaker 3>a call from Mama to the little ones and they

671
00:34:36.239 --> 00:34:39.559
<v Speaker 3>broke on again. This was in nineteen eighty one, and

672
00:34:39.639 --> 00:34:43.960
<v Speaker 3>she remembers it vividly to this day. Thank goodness. There

673
00:34:44.039 --> 00:34:47.760
<v Speaker 3>was nothing detrimental, no screaming or anything like that. But

674
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<v Speaker 3>she's going to be in charge of some little kids

675
00:34:50.960 --> 00:34:53.480
<v Speaker 3>and be young yourself and have something like that happen

676
00:34:53.639 --> 00:34:58.920
<v Speaker 3>is just it's definitely jarring to the system. She's had

677
00:34:59.199 --> 00:35:04.599
<v Speaker 3>encounters sim same village, same area that this particular trail,

678
00:35:05.320 --> 00:35:07.840
<v Speaker 3>she come to find out years later, has been known

679
00:35:07.920 --> 00:35:10.840
<v Speaker 3>over the years as many people have seen the harry

680
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<v Speaker 3>Man over there. And from what she was told, there's

681
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<v Speaker 3>a bluff back over there where these things reside if

682
00:35:19.320 --> 00:35:22.599
<v Speaker 3>they stay away from a certain zone, which is a

683
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<v Speaker 3>marsh over those hills, that bowl of hills. She said,

684
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<v Speaker 3>there's a marsh on the opposite side of Muskeg and

685
00:35:29.239 --> 00:35:31.840
<v Speaker 3>as long as you don't go past that, they won't

686
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<v Speaker 3>throw rocks at you, they won't try to steal you.

687
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<v Speaker 3>That's what she shared with me as to what she

688
00:35:36.880 --> 00:35:40.599
<v Speaker 3>was told. One of her uncles ended up missing. No

689
00:35:40.639 --> 00:35:43.679
<v Speaker 3>one knows how, no one knows why. No one's saying

690
00:35:43.719 --> 00:35:46.960
<v Speaker 3>it was a hairy man. It just so happened that

691
00:35:47.000 --> 00:35:50.360
<v Speaker 3>when her uncle went missing, and this was back when

692
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<v Speaker 3>she was about three years old, so she doesn't remember it,

693
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<v Speaker 3>but she had been told over the years that he

694
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<v Speaker 3>went past that marsh and was never seen again. Search

695
00:36:01.119 --> 00:36:03.639
<v Speaker 3>parties couldn't find them, no trace of them. And all that,

696
00:36:04.199 --> 00:36:07.880
<v Speaker 3>but there's certain hush talks within the family that he

697
00:36:07.920 --> 00:36:12.280
<v Speaker 3>got too close to the Harryman and went missing for it.

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<v Speaker 3>So I was not there, but knowing what I've seen

699
00:36:17.079 --> 00:36:20.519
<v Speaker 3>with my own eyes, I can't dismiss that either. Thank

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<v Speaker 3>you guys for joining me. We will catch you on

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<v Speaker 3>the next one.

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<v Speaker 4>They say, you don't gotta go home, but.

703
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<v Speaker 3>You can't stay.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't want to be. We're all out there, chant

705
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<v Speaker 4>this chard that chime. Everything came right, Bay rocking back

706
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<v Speaker 4>for Joy, for me, Joy staying right.

707
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<v Speaker 5>You come in right away, still stay steps games, and

708
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<v Speaker 5>still start pass state gainst us stass
