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Speaker 2: Now, what are your reporting? I got a screen going
Speaker 2: on here. Something just kid with my dog. Something killed
Speaker 2: your dog?
Speaker 3: My dog?
Speaker 2: We're flying through there over the tree. I don't know
Speaker 2: how it did it? Okay, Damn, I'm really confused. All
Speaker 2: I saw was my dog coming over the fence, and
Speaker 2: they would dead once you hit the ground. I didn't
Speaker 2: see any cars. All I saw was my dog coming
Speaker 2: over the fence. Sat, what are you reporting? We got
Speaker 2: some wonder or something crawling around out here? Did you
Speaker 2: see what it was? It was enough out here looking.
Speaker 2: I'm new to window now and I don't see anything.
Speaker 2: I don't want to go outside. He is white. Hello,
Speaker 2: hit the boddy out here? What quent on out there's
Speaker 2: thought of a bit of about sixty nine? I don't
Speaker 2: know easy out there? Yeah, I'm buking right ahady oh.
Speaker 3: A, greetings spread Alaska. Thanks for joining me today. What
Speaker 3: I wanted to share with you today comes from listening
Speaker 3: him Tim. Now, Tim's in a pecurious spot. He is
Speaker 3: a law enforcement professional. When he started his career, see
Speaker 3: at par in Alaska, we got three different types of
Speaker 3: state troopers. You got your patrol troopers, which are the
Speaker 3: blue shirts. You got your gray shirts, which is JSO,
Speaker 3: which is Judicial services. And then you have fishing game.
Speaker 3: We don't have game wardens. They're actually state troopers. They'll
Speaker 3: rest your ass, take your shit anyway. You basically forfeit
Speaker 3: everything if you're out coaching up here in Alaska. The truck,
Speaker 3: you use, the boat, everything. So Tim, when he first
Speaker 3: started his service many years ago, he started in the
Speaker 3: fishing game field. He asked me to omit exactly where
Speaker 3: this occurred. He hasn't been in the fishing game portion
Speaker 3: of the establishment in a very long time. He's coming
Speaker 3: up on retirement, but he wanted to share this under
Speaker 3: a few guidelines, So we're going to omit where exactly
Speaker 3: it was and his exact name. I just appreciate him
Speaker 3: coming forward and being willing to share. He was in
Speaker 3: his field training portion, just got out of his field
Speaker 3: training portion. The fishing game troopers get to play with
Speaker 3: the boats, the snow machines, the four wheelers, side by
Speaker 3: sides and all that, whereas patrol guys are just in
Speaker 3: the squad cars, responding to nine one one calls and
Speaker 3: all that kind of stuff, so he was stoked. He
Speaker 3: grew up in Alaska, but all the stories he heard
Speaker 3: when he was young about hairy man, little people and
Speaker 3: all this, he dismissed it. It was just like a
Speaker 3: fanciful It was part of oral history culture. Blah blah blah.
Speaker 3: Tim is at the baskin. He's literally the first time
Speaker 3: out on his own, feeling himself out. He's got a
Speaker 3: certain route, he's patrolling. Its hunting season. He's basically out
Speaker 3: there to check make sure everyone's on the up and up,
Speaker 3: you got your hunting license whatever. One of their issues,
Speaker 3: he was saying, they run into is radio contact. So
Speaker 3: what they have to do is they had strategic locations
Speaker 3: where they can get up high enough to relay let's say,
Speaker 3: run someone for a warrants or make sure something running
Speaker 3: a gun, ven number to make sure serial number, make
Speaker 3: sure it's not stolen, and that kind of thing. They
Speaker 3: had a relay set up. So on this particular patrol
Speaker 3: he was doing, he's way back up in there to
Speaker 3: where he can't even he has to go many miles
Speaker 3: just to start a relay via radio. He was by
Speaker 3: himself sitting there. One morning, the fog rows a little
Speaker 3: bit it was hunting season for moose, cariboo and whatnot.
Speaker 3: He hears a gunshot off in the distance on this
Speaker 3: particular trail he was on, so he stopped with what
Speaker 3: he was doing and goes, okay, perfect, I'm going to
Speaker 3: go and check make sure these guys are on the up.
Speaker 3: And that gunshot sounded about a mile away or so.
Speaker 3: Let me go down trail see if I could find
Speaker 3: these guys and do my job. Basically, so Tim said,
Speaker 3: as he was going this particular trail he was on
Speaker 3: across a little bit of some muskegg and then it
Speaker 3: cuts up and it elevates, he said, about three hundred
Speaker 3: feet up onto this trail that kind of cuts around
Speaker 3: this mountain and it drops back down. And he assumed
Speaker 3: it was on that other sidewhere it dropped back down
Speaker 3: because he had been on this trail a couple times before.
Speaker 3: So he gets up there and he's up on this
Speaker 3: plateau wrapping around this mountain, and just as he's about
Speaker 3: to come dropping down back into the little valley there,
Speaker 3: all of a sudden, these two guys on four we
Speaker 3: just come flying up it, right, So immediately he's off
Speaker 3: to the side trail. These guys see him, and they
Speaker 3: look relieved. Right, these two hunters, they immediately stopped. Hey,
Speaker 3: down there, we just shot a moose. They're panic circum
Speaker 3: So he's like, calm down, what happened? Are you injured?
Speaker 3: He thought they were rushing for medical help because he
Speaker 3: said their eyes were bulging out of their heads, freaking out.
Speaker 3: So he calms them down. He's talking to him. He
Speaker 3: finally gets them to calm down enough where he's understanding
Speaker 3: what they're saying, because they're both talking a million miles
Speaker 3: an hour and he's not hearing any of it. He's
Speaker 3: just hearing a monster and something else, and he's thinking,
Speaker 3: we shot a monster moose and something. So calms him
Speaker 3: down and gets one of them to talk. The guy
Speaker 3: commences to telling him that, hey, we saw ourselves illegal moose.
Speaker 3: We shot it just a little while ago, just minutes ago.
Speaker 3: It was right where the moose. It trotted a few
Speaker 3: yards and then flopped right up against the brush. It
Speaker 3: was actually pushing some brush over, some of the willows
Speaker 3: and stuff over where it fell. And he said, as
Speaker 3: we were going up on it to make sure it
Speaker 3: was dead, we heard a grouse, so we thought it
Speaker 3: was a bear, and they had been sitting there quiet
Speaker 3: for so long, and they figured, okay, we'll fire up
Speaker 3: the four wheeler, wrap up the four wheeler and drag
Speaker 3: the moose a little further away from the brush, and
Speaker 3: then got it and do our thing. So, he said,
Speaker 3: he backed up his wheeler and they tied it off
Speaker 3: to the hoofs of the moose, all four hoofs, and
Speaker 3: were starting to pull it when all of a sudden,
Speaker 3: the front end of his wheeler starts coming up. Because
Speaker 3: he's just doing this thing, about to tow this moose,
Speaker 3: his buddy wasn't even paying attention. His buddy was smoking
Speaker 3: a cigarette, basically just waiting for him to get done
Speaker 3: so they could get to work gutting and quartering the
Speaker 3: thing up. The guy explained to Tim that as his
Speaker 3: wheeler all of a sudden pulled up, he let off
Speaker 3: the throttle, and all of a sudden, his wheeler was
Speaker 3: getting pulled backwards, and he was like, what the hell,
Speaker 3: So he jumps off with the wheeler, and as he
Speaker 3: jumps off of it, he tumbles and lands on his butt,
Speaker 3: facing back towards the brush. And he said, this thing
Speaker 3: had two hands on the moose, one around the neck
Speaker 3: and one kind of around the gut, and it was
Speaker 3: stopping him from pulling, and this thing was looking at
Speaker 3: him in his eyes. Now the trooper was like, he
Speaker 3: was suspecting this guy was feeding him a line of
Speaker 3: shit because he shot something. He shit, maybe it was illegal.
Speaker 3: It wasn't quite fifty inches. He's hearing him, but something's
Speaker 3: off about this guy's story, so he hears him out.
Speaker 3: The guy says, as soon as I saw that, I
Speaker 3: jumped up. I pulled the pin on my little toe,
Speaker 3: hitch on my wheeler. My buddy jumped on his, and
Speaker 3: we came up quarter mile back behind us, we ran
Speaker 3: into you here. He goes, okay, So he takes the
Speaker 3: information and at this point these guys are like, I'll
Speaker 3: leave my freaking wallet with you. I'm out of here.
Speaker 3: You know you can return it mail to me. I
Speaker 3: don't give a flying rats ass, I'm out here. That
Speaker 3: they were adamant about getting the hell out of there, so,
Speaker 3: being skeptical, he thought they were trying to avoid potential
Speaker 3: prosecution or lose their stuff. He thought they were up
Speaker 3: to no good because a monster and this and that,
Speaker 3: and okay, you don't want to be near me right now,
Speaker 3: it's just for him. It was a lot of red flags.
Speaker 3: He was a rookie, he was this. He was like, no,
Speaker 3: you guys are going to stay right here. I'm gonna
Speaker 3: arrest you both. That's when they started saying, then F
Speaker 3: and arrest us, F and arrest us. But you're going
Speaker 3: to arrest us over there where it's safe. It ain't
Speaker 3: safe here, And they kept saying this, right, and so
Speaker 3: he goes, okay, calm down, because you've got to understand,
Speaker 3: he's by himself and these two are armed people that
Speaker 3: are freaking out. So he decides to go a diplomatic crowd.
Speaker 3: He goes, allow me, I'm gonna go down. I'm gonna
Speaker 3: check it out real quick. It's not that far. You
Speaker 3: guys stay here, keep an eye out for this monster,
Speaker 3: and I'm going to go and check this out.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 3: Tim said that the look of relief on these guys's
Speaker 3: face when he said he would go alone, because at
Speaker 3: first he was wanting them to follow him back and
Speaker 3: they weren't going nowhere. They made it clear they wanted
Speaker 3: to go, but they agreed to stay there. So he goes,
Speaker 3: don't make me chase you guys down. I got your
Speaker 3: name I'd hate for it to get prosecuted or something
Speaker 3: like that. Just don't run off on me, guys kind
Speaker 3: of thing. So Tim said, he got on his wheeler,
Speaker 3: he went down the hill. He went right to where
Speaker 3: they said they were, and he comes up on the
Speaker 3: scene and he could see where the brush was still
Speaker 3: pushed over from where the moose had fallen, and he
Speaker 3: saw the bottom of the moose legs from the upper
Speaker 3: hinge point on their legs snapped off and they're still
Speaker 3: attached to the ropes that he was towing it with.
Speaker 3: Same with the hitch. Everything was right there except the moose.
Speaker 3: All four hoofs were there, still attached to the rope
Speaker 3: but broken off. Tim said it was so surreal as
Speaker 3: he's sitting on the wheeler, he killed the motor, and
Speaker 3: he's standing up on the wheeler looking down at this scene.
Speaker 3: And he said, as he's looking at it, trying to
Speaker 3: assess what the hell am I actually looking at, because
Speaker 3: he said, it looked like someone that came and just
Speaker 3: took a big knifing, put everything off just above the
Speaker 3: hoof a little ways and it was gone. That's the
Speaker 3: best he could come up with because there was no blood,
Speaker 3: no guts was just what he was looking at. So
Speaker 3: he gets off the wheeler and as he's standing there,
Speaker 3: he's pulling out his pad and he's starting to write
Speaker 3: down some notes, time of day, location, this kind of stuff, right,
Speaker 3: just for his records. And as he's doing so, he
Speaker 3: hears this low, grumbling kind of noise and he is
Speaker 3: that almost sounded like a bear. So he takes a
Speaker 3: couple of steps back by his wheeler and unlatches his
Speaker 3: little rifle hold of where he had a shotgun. He
Speaker 3: grabs his shotgun and he starts saying, hey, bear, bear,
Speaker 3: and he's taken out a lethal round and he's putting
Speaker 3: in one of those bear buster rounds that look like
Speaker 3: a little rubber bomb to shoot this bear in the
Speaker 3: butt and scare it off because at this point he
Speaker 3: hasn't had a chance to actually look for the missing moose.
Speaker 3: It was just what the hell's going on here? Right,
Speaker 3: So as he's assessing, he redoes the load in the shotgun.
Speaker 3: As he's doing so, he keeps hearing this noise and
Speaker 3: it's moving from directly in front of him, out of
Speaker 3: view inside the willows, off to his left, the little ways,
Speaker 3: and he said, all his training kicked in at that point,
Speaker 3: because it was one thing to hear what he thought
Speaker 3: was a bear ground, then it was another thing to
Speaker 3: hear this movement and the way it was moving. He
Speaker 3: had heard plenty of bears moving through the brush, and
Speaker 3: something told him it was not a bear. So he's
Speaker 3: got his four wheeler now between him and the noise.
Speaker 3: He wanted a barrier to at least if it was
Speaker 3: a bear rushing out, it would hit the wheeler first
Speaker 3: and give him some reaction time. So he's going through
Speaker 3: that and he's so caught up in what the hell
Speaker 3: is going on in front of him. He didn't even
Speaker 3: hear the two guys on a four wheeler come down
Speaker 3: behind him, because from what he said, they were standing
Speaker 3: up there and said they couldn't allow him to be
Speaker 3: down there by himself with what they saw. To this point,
Speaker 3: they had never fully explained and he didn't fully hear
Speaker 3: what they saw. They were just freaking out. From what
Speaker 3: Tim said, they came down and all of a sudden
Speaker 3: he realized they were there, and they were standing there
Speaker 3: with their guns and they're all listening. Right. The guys
Speaker 3: are like pointing, are you hearing this over here? Because
Speaker 3: they're all being quiet, and they're using little hand gestures.
Speaker 3: Tim said it was seeing those guys there and them
Speaker 3: all point the way they were his tension, his shoulders
Speaker 3: felt a little lighter because initially, when he was getting
Speaker 3: behind the four wheeler, he said, in my heart of hearts,
Speaker 3: I felt like I was done. I was all alone.
Speaker 3: That's a powerful thing for a grown man to admit
Speaker 3: to say I was out of my league, especially a
Speaker 3: professional in that field. You don't want to be in
Speaker 3: a position to look any less than the man, so
Speaker 3: to speak. It's a guy thing. So they're all looking
Speaker 3: in that direction. And he said they heard thrashing get
Speaker 3: louder and louder, but it wasn't moving far. It was
Speaker 3: almost like it was just right in one area. The
Speaker 3: thrashing was getting louder and louder. He said, it sounded
Speaker 3: like a woman being murdered, like the most high pitched
Speaker 3: wailing scream he had ever heard in his life. And
Speaker 3: then just so fast a movement. He said, it was
Speaker 3: moving faster than they could track it with their hearing.
Speaker 3: He said it was moving very fast. Once it had
Speaker 3: got in the distance, he popped that worthless rubber bullet
Speaker 3: round out and put in. Lethal was ready to go
Speaker 3: with it. He hadn't seen anything. The two guys were like,
Speaker 3: we told you, and he goes, what, I haven't seen anything,
Speaker 3: and he goes, you don't want to see it. So
Speaker 3: they hear the movement going on, and it's a little
Speaker 3: distance way, so it's not like right up on top
Speaker 3: of them, and so Tim is asking the guys, tell
Speaker 3: me what you saw, tell me what you think this is,
Speaker 3: and the guy commissions telling him it had a black face,
Speaker 3: It had a face like a caveman, had really wide jaw.
Speaker 3: He said, it was monstrously big. It had to bend
Speaker 3: five foot across at the shoulders. He couldn't tell how
Speaker 3: tall it was because when he saw it it was
Speaker 3: squatted down. He could see its knees squatted off to
Speaker 3: the sides. But this thing was just squatted down, holding
Speaker 3: the neck in the belly of the moose. Tim is
Speaker 3: absorbing it and he's kind of okay, these guys are
Speaker 3: Obviously there's something to what they're telling me. I don't
Speaker 3: know exactly what yet, but there's something to it.
Speaker 1: And stay tuned for more Sasquatch out to see will
Speaker 1: be right back after these messages.
Speaker 3: The guy gets done telling him this, they hear movement
Speaker 3: coming back. Tim said that everything in him, all his bravado,
Speaker 3: all his machismo, whatever you want to call it, vacated him.
Speaker 3: He said, it vacated him very quickly. He said he
Speaker 3: felt like a five year old little boy holding daddy's shotgun.
Speaker 3: He was holding the shotgun. This thing, it sounded like
Speaker 3: it was coming directly at him, but at a methodical pace.
Speaker 3: He said. It sounded very deliberate in its approach. It
Speaker 3: was like a kushunk, one step after another in a
Speaker 3: cadence of every second there was another footstep, and he
Speaker 3: said it felt very deliberate. Immediately, he's telling the guys
Speaker 3: be ready, don't accidentally shoot me. Let's get shouldered or
Speaker 3: shoulder here. I don't know what the hell this thing
Speaker 3: is doing. As they're discussing this, all of a sudden,
Speaker 3: it went from ku katun towards them top. It's kaotic sound,
Speaker 3: he said. As they were sitting there trying to figure
Speaker 3: out what direction is coming, because they were hearing noises
Speaker 3: in multiple directions right, it felt like they were surrounded
Speaker 3: by sound. With all the breaking and thrashing going on
Speaker 3: at this point they could see the brush moving, essentially
Speaker 3: walking backwards. Not even realizing it, but they're all walking
Speaker 3: backwards away from this noise. At a certain point, Tim
Speaker 3: said he stopped and got down on one knee because
Speaker 3: he wasn't sure how he was going to deal with
Speaker 3: whatever this is. Once it clears the brush, right, he said,
Speaker 3: it was almost like it comes closer to the edge
Speaker 3: of brushing and back off. Come a little closer than
Speaker 3: back off, you know what I mean. That's the feeling
Speaker 3: he got from the sounds and the way the brush
Speaker 3: was moving. He got that impression, right. So as they're
Speaker 3: standing there doing that, he's down on the knee. These
Speaker 3: other two guys are standing and they're like, we need
Speaker 3: to go, we need to go, and he goes quiet.
Speaker 3: I'm trying to hear. I'm trying to hear. Tim wants
Speaker 3: to see whatever the hell this thing is, right because
Speaker 3: he works out here, so he wants to what the
Speaker 3: hell is this. As he's down on his knee and
Speaker 3: these two guys are quietly chatting and saying, we shouldn't
Speaker 3: be here, we shouldn't be here, all of a sudden,
Speaker 3: he sees something brown clear the top of the brush,
Speaker 3: it's still in the brush, but just above the brush,
Speaker 3: he saw this thing flinging move and they were all
Speaker 3: like backed off real quick because they didn't know what
Speaker 3: the hell it was. It thrashed into the brush, and
Speaker 3: then the guy on the end, not the one immediately
Speaker 3: next to him, but the one further away, said that
Speaker 3: was our moose. So this thing it flung the moose.
Speaker 3: But as they're trying to assess what the hell, all
Speaker 3: of a sudden to hear from where that moose landed.
Speaker 3: They heard thrashing and moving away from them, very loud.
Speaker 3: At this point, he had already just out of Habit
Speaker 3: tried radioing a couple times. He wasn't getting nothing on
Speaker 3: the radio, not a thing. It quiets down a little bit,
Speaker 3: they hear a little bit of a huffy, puffy kind
Speaker 3: of noise, and so they decide, let's get on the
Speaker 3: wheelers and get back up at least up to that plateau,
Speaker 3: because I got distance to go before I can even
Speaker 3: start relaying information, he said. Once they decided they were
Speaker 3: going to jump on the wheel and go, one of
Speaker 3: the guys wheelers, something was wrong with the tyrod. So
Speaker 3: when they came to a stop, he basically lost one
Speaker 3: of the front tires that was kicked out and it
Speaker 3: wasn't going anywhere in the moment. I'm gonna get on
Speaker 3: with you. Talking to his friend, Tim has those guys
Speaker 3: keep an eye on it, watch his back while he's
Speaker 3: fired up his wheeler, and then he was going to
Speaker 3: keep an eye while they got wheelered up and fired
Speaker 3: up and whatnot. So as they're talking and Tim backed
Speaker 3: up his four wheeler and they're still listening because he
Speaker 3: said this noise, this breathing sound that's grunting, was very loud.
Speaker 3: He said it was almost loud to the point where
Speaker 3: you kiell it in your chest, which really bothered him.
Speaker 3: He said his hair was standing up on end. There
Speaker 3: was small talk of it was a bigfoot, this, it
Speaker 3: was a bigfoot that, blah blah blah, and he hadn't
Speaker 3: seen anything. So he's just listening to them going, we
Speaker 3: don't know. So he backs up. They're talking, they get
Speaker 3: on their wheeler and he says, go ahead and go.
Speaker 3: You get up the trail a little ways there by
Speaker 3: that clearing and keep an eye so I can finish
Speaker 3: backing up, turn around and go. So they all agreed.
Speaker 3: They do their thing. Tim was the last one going
Speaker 3: up the hill. He passed those guys. They pulled off
Speaker 3: the side trail, He passed them, They got back up
Speaker 3: to basically where they almost ran into each other. They
Speaker 3: met him back up there, and then he stops, turns
Speaker 3: around and comes back to the edge of the trail
Speaker 3: that drops down into the area they just left. He said,
Speaker 3: it was just off to the right a little bit,
Speaker 3: and there was some brush that kind of obscured, but
Speaker 3: they could still see some of the rope and the
Speaker 3: bottom of the hoofs. He said, the hardest part about
Speaker 3: everything that was going on in that moment is he
Speaker 3: didn't say nothing to the two guys that were with them,
Speaker 3: the hunters that were there, because they were talking amongst
Speaker 3: themselves at this point about they couldn't believe what the
Speaker 3: hell was going on here, talking about all the years
Speaker 3: we've been here and nothing's ever happened. Tim is looking
Speaker 3: down at the scene right. He said, he didn't say
Speaker 3: anything to the guys, but he said he watched this
Speaker 3: thing walk from his right to his li left, basically
Speaker 3: right at that brush line where they just were. Because
Speaker 3: he was just standing there next to those willows and shit,
Speaker 3: he said the willows were at least twelve foot tall
Speaker 3: over him. He said, this thing, the way it was walking,
Speaker 3: was almost as tall. He said it had to have
Speaker 3: been every bit of eleven foot tall. He didn't see
Speaker 3: a face. He saw a very dark looking hair. He
Speaker 3: said it wasn't for it looked like hair. He could
Speaker 3: see the movements of the muscle groups from that distance.
Speaker 3: It was very muscular, very robust. It was monstrously big.
Speaker 3: And he said it walked right to left and then
Speaker 3: cut right into the brush, and a moment later they
Speaker 3: heard a very loud scream and everything went dead quiet,
Speaker 3: and then they didn't hear anything. And he said he
Speaker 3: was continually trying to radio. He was holding up the
Speaker 3: base of his motorola trying to radio and not getting
Speaker 3: any signal. So he basically followed those two out radio.
Speaker 3: Someone responded he got some back up the following day
Speaker 3: because where his particular partner was on a totally different place.
Speaker 3: And it's Alaska, sometimes you won't get trooper service for
Speaker 3: a day or two. Anyway, he said, when he came
Speaker 3: back with backup, he had told them that it was
Speaker 3: apparently a bear ran us off. It was aggressive in
Speaker 3: the brush, We didn't want to risk him in life.
Speaker 3: We backed away. That's what he initially told his partner
Speaker 3: and whatnot. Before they went and dropped down that hill,
Speaker 3: he had unslung his shotgun from the holder on the
Speaker 3: wheeler and he basically had it in his lap going
Speaker 3: down the hill. When they got to the bottom of
Speaker 3: the hill, he was called out on while you got
Speaker 3: the shotgun out right now, that bear must have startled
Speaker 3: you because his partner had been doing this shit for
Speaker 3: years and stuff, and so busted his chops a little bit.
Speaker 3: And Tim was like, it was a very big bear.
Speaker 3: It was the biggest bear I've ever seen. The mussofs
Speaker 3: were right there, the ropes, the hitch, everything was just
Speaker 3: as he had last seen it. Right, it's all right there.
Speaker 3: And his partner goes, man, that is really odd. I've
Speaker 3: never seen a bear bite off. It would have drugged
Speaker 3: this stuff off. So let's take a look around. He
Speaker 3: didn't tell his partner what he saw. He didn't want mockery,
Speaker 3: so he was just treating it as a bear incident.
Speaker 3: Now his partner wants to go in the direction he
Speaker 3: said he last seen the bear. Not too far within
Speaker 3: a quarter mile. It reaches a pretty wide creek with
Speaker 3: soft enough shores, gravel and sand to where there should
Speaker 3: be some tracks of this bear if it did retreat
Speaker 3: that way, and let's see if we could find a moose.
Speaker 3: Tim was like, Okay, let me tell you what I
Speaker 3: really saw, because you're asking me to do something that
Speaker 3: everything inside me is telling me. Don't go that way,
Speaker 3: don't do it, tells him everything, repeats it all but
Speaker 3: in the context of sasquatch.
Speaker 4: Right.
Speaker 3: Immediately, the guy tells him he want your career to last.
Speaker 3: This is a bear incident. Tim immediately asked, why do
Speaker 3: I have to be quiet about what I actually saw?
Speaker 3: This guy told him There's been times in the past
Speaker 3: where I have tried to report what you are reporting.
Speaker 3: It went nowhere and it went to a point of
Speaker 3: damn near disciplinary actions of some kind. He goes, if
Speaker 3: you want to pursue it, just be prepared for a
Speaker 3: psyche val and some other stuff. He goes, Okay. His
Speaker 3: partner says, it's a bare incident, right, and he goes, yes,
Speaker 3: it's a bare incident. And they walked back over there,
Speaker 3: and he said that when they got back to that creek,
Speaker 3: it was so quiet, and he said, way off in
Speaker 3: the distance. He couldn't even begin to guess. There was
Speaker 3: the loudest whistle he had ever heard. It was very
Speaker 3: hard to distinguish whether it was five hundred eight hundred
Speaker 3: yards away, but it was a good distance away, and
Speaker 3: it literally was like it wasn't that far. It's one
Speaker 3: of those weird things when you hear these screams, whistles,
Speaker 3: whatever they maybe, if they're at a distance, it's so
Speaker 3: powerful it's hard to even put into context. But anyway,
Speaker 3: if they found nothing of the moose, they took the
Speaker 3: little toast strap and the hitch what was left of
Speaker 3: the moose, chalked it up, did whatever they had to
Speaker 3: do as far as their paper work and whatnot. And
Speaker 3: he said, over the course of his career being out there,
Speaker 3: there was a few more instances of that type of
Speaker 3: stuff that he had to deal with. Hopefully, if things
Speaker 3: go well, after he's secured his pension and some other stuff,
Speaker 3: he will be coming on and sharing in his own words,
Speaker 3: that would be awesome. I want to thank Tim for
Speaker 3: sharing that. I know you're in a compromise position when
Speaker 3: it comes to this kind of stuff. I just want
Speaker 3: to thank you for sharing that portion of the things
Speaker 3: you've dealt with out here. I'm hoping we can click
Speaker 3: soon share some more of those experiences that you had
Speaker 3: shared with me. All that aside, what I wanted to
Speaker 3: share with you today comes from We'll say her name's Aggie.
Speaker 3: She's from a remote village, very superstitious about the hairy man.
Speaker 3: I understand. I don't want to dismiss that stems from somewhere.
Speaker 3: Is what it is, and I respect it. So I
Speaker 3: won't say what village. I won't say her real name,
Speaker 3: but Aggie will work. This was back nineteen eighty one.
Speaker 3: Aggie was twelve years old. She was watching some younger
Speaker 3: relatives and other extended family members that were still too
Speaker 3: young for fish camp at her particular village. She had
Speaker 3: a three wheeler route at the time that she would
Speaker 3: take the kids on a big loop to basically wipe
Speaker 3: them out and get them to go to bed after
Speaker 3: they ate. Just wear the kids out, you know what
Speaker 3: I mean. And so she had four other kids with her.
Speaker 3: Remember she's twelve at the time. They started off on
Speaker 3: this walk. This particular trail goes up a rise and
Speaker 3: then it bowls out into rolling hills and it's all
Speaker 3: open tundra. There's some black spruce, but it's way off
Speaker 3: in the distance. I asked her about how far and
Speaker 3: she just was like, aways off in the distance, So
Speaker 3: no big deal. Quite a ways from what she said.
Speaker 3: And so they get up on this trail, up on
Speaker 3: this rise which is basically an extended shelf and basically
Speaker 3: a plateau, and it's bold in the back drop with
Speaker 3: these hills. She's got the kids up there, plane tag
Speaker 3: and they're all running around in a tundra and tumbling
Speaker 3: and just having a good old time, just happy, care
Speaker 3: free kids. Ugh, get the chills.
Speaker 1: Man.
Speaker 3: It bothers me when kids are involved, but it is
Speaker 3: what it is. Right. So, as the kids are playing
Speaker 3: or whatever, the very smallest one that was four years old,
Speaker 3: starts pointing over way back by the trees and saying,
Speaker 3: there's a bear. There's a bear. So immediately she hears bear,
Speaker 3: Aggie's on it. She's looking for this bear. Because you
Speaker 3: want to know parts of that. There's kids involved. Let's
Speaker 3: get you guys together. If there's a bear and she's looking,
Speaker 3: she doesn't see what the kids saw. And she asked
Speaker 3: the little boy, where's this bearer you saw? The little
Speaker 3: boy said, it was over there. I don't know where
Speaker 3: it went. Okay, obviously the bear the wind was blowing
Speaker 3: that direction, so she knows the bear winded them, or
Speaker 3: suspects it did, and doesn't know if it's circling or
Speaker 3: if it ran away. Because it smelt humans, she did
Speaker 3: not know, so she wasn't risking anything. Very attuned to
Speaker 3: her environment, as most native villagers are, they pay attention
Speaker 3: to their senses. So what Aggie does is has them
Speaker 3: all get in the line and walk in front of
Speaker 3: her so she can keep an eye out behind them.
Speaker 3: She didn't want any little ones in the rears, right,
Speaker 3: so she has them going. She said, there are quite
Speaker 3: a little ways back there, She's guessing me about a
Speaker 3: half mile before they get into more familiar area where
Speaker 3: there's starts to be some structures and stuff like that.
Speaker 3: There are some old netthouses they had to pass by,
Speaker 3: and some other stuff, and so, she said. As the
Speaker 3: kids were moving along, she started hearing a very sharp
Speaker 3: whistle from behind behind her. But every time she turned
Speaker 3: around to look for this whistle, she would not be
Speaker 3: able to see what was making the whistling sound. So
Speaker 3: she thought maybe it's echoing. Because of that kind of
Speaker 3: semicircle bowl of hills, and so she has a kid
Speaker 3: stop and they're all just standing there talking amongst each other,
Speaker 3: just being kids. And so she's head on a swovel
Speaker 3: looking around trying to pinpoint this whistle. She didn't see anything,
Speaker 3: so she tells the kids to keep going. When they're
Speaker 3: coming back down this rise, they run into black spruce
Speaker 3: and some willows and stuff further down the trail, and
Speaker 3: they got to go right through. It's a little bit
Speaker 3: of a pinch point because you got the brush filling
Speaker 3: in onto the trail. So they got all this open
Speaker 3: expanse and it bottled next down to this little bit
Speaker 3: of a trail that's approximately one hundred yards long, and
Speaker 3: it varies in its depth of density of brush, but
Speaker 3: it's all willows and black spruce. Maybe a couple pine
Speaker 3: in there or something like that, but just real basic
Speaker 3: Alaska tree line. She said, as they got close to
Speaker 3: where they're going to have to go through there, which
Speaker 3: and it wasn't like they had to push through sideways
Speaker 3: or nothing. It was wide enough they could walk unrestricted
Speaker 3: through there. It was just brush, real tight, she said.
Speaker 3: They got about maybe one hundred feet she's guessing from
Speaker 3: that trail where they have to go through there, and
Speaker 3: she heard the whistle again. When she heard the whistle,
Speaker 3: this time it's in a very close off to her
Speaker 3: left somewhere she could not pinpoint it. The kids all shriek,
Speaker 3: almost simultaneously, all little kids shriek, and they're all pointing,
Speaker 3: and they all turn and start running away a opposite direction,
Speaker 3: and so immediately she stopped, don't run. She gets them
Speaker 3: to stop running, and they're all turning and pointing back.
Speaker 3: And initially she didn't see what they saw. She turns
Speaker 3: and it was like her third look over, she noticed
Speaker 3: this thing stick its head up, looking up above the brush,
Speaker 3: and at that point it was very near the trail
Speaker 3: they had to use.
Speaker 1: Stay tuned for more sasquatch out to see.
Speaker 3: We'll be right back. After these messages creeped her out,
Speaker 3: freaked her out immediately, and so she started yelling, hey,
Speaker 3: get out of here, bear, hey, bear, just waving her hands,
Speaker 3: making herself bigger. She opened up her coat or windbreaking,
Speaker 3: was making herself bigger. And as she's doing that, this
Speaker 3: thing stands up. So from what she was saying, the
Speaker 3: brush is about five feet high where this thing was
Speaker 3: where she initially just saw the top of its head
Speaker 3: and had no idea really what it was because all
Speaker 3: she saw was just the top. And then she said,
Speaker 3: when it stood up, it was like it seemed like
Speaker 3: it was never going to stop. It just kept going
Speaker 3: up and up, and then finally when it did stop,
Speaker 3: it's doing this number with his head and she's still
Speaker 3: holding her coat open. She's holding her coat open, she's yelling,
Speaker 3: and this thing is just tweaking his head back and forth,
Speaker 3: looking right at her. I asked her what it looked like,
Speaker 3: and she couldn't see because the way the lighting was,
Speaker 3: its face was silhouetted because it was lit from behind
Speaker 3: with the daylight. She couldn't make out anything really, she said.
Speaker 3: At the point where she had the kids stop running
Speaker 3: to where this thing was maybe one hundred feet, which
Speaker 3: is not very far at all, especially with something that big.
Speaker 3: I asked her if she would guesstimate how much taller
Speaker 3: than the five foot it was. She said, it was
Speaker 3: at least double the height of what the brush was,
Speaker 3: and she's guessing it is about five foot talk, so
Speaker 3: this thing was at least ten foot. As she's standing
Speaker 3: her yelling, all the other kids started mimicking her. They
Speaker 3: were holding their coats, We started screaming. Little four year
Speaker 3: old boy was talking about throwing a stick at it
Speaker 3: to scare it away. She calms them down and stuff.
Speaker 3: And as she's telling the kids to just stay calm,
Speaker 3: stay still, don't run, this thing goes back into cover,
Speaker 3: just lowers back down in the brush and she hears
Speaker 3: it start moving away. So she's okay, calm down, kids,
Speaker 3: And she said she heard it going through the brush.
Speaker 3: Because she's heard moos go through the brush plenty, she
Speaker 3: knows what she was hearing. This thing was moving away.
Speaker 3: As she's focused on the sound of it moving away,
Speaker 3: she heard rustling onto the right hand side of this
Speaker 3: trail that cuts through these trees. This trail cuts through
Speaker 3: off to the right. This one stood up over on
Speaker 3: the left, but off to the right, she heard rustling smaller.
Speaker 3: She could tell it was smaller as they were looking
Speaker 3: at the direction of the sound. She says she saw
Speaker 3: two little ones rush through the brush right across the
Speaker 3: trail real fast. She says she couldn't tell if they
Speaker 3: were on two feet or four feet because they were
Speaker 3: just moving. And immediately the kids shrieked and she's calming
Speaker 3: them down. She was just like it was just a
Speaker 3: mama bear with cubs, because she didn't want to freak
Speaker 3: the kids out. The second oldest one was nine years old,
Speaker 3: a savvy little girl said that ain't no damn bear,
Speaker 3: and so she was like, just be quiet, and all
Speaker 3: the other kids, of course being kids, they start questioning,
Speaker 3: it's not a bear. What was that? That was a
Speaker 3: man and that was a big man. And the nine
Speaker 3: year old was like, that was a hairy man. That
Speaker 3: was a hairy man, And all the kids immediately start
Speaker 3: getting closer together and they're holding on to her, and
Speaker 3: Aggie's calmed down. Just listen, and they listened. The big
Speaker 3: movement and the two smaller movements eventually caught up sound
Speaker 3: wise to each other, and they listened for a second.
Speaker 3: Then she goes, we need to go, and that's when
Speaker 3: they all cut through the trail. So fast forward to
Speaker 3: later on that evening. One of their elder relatives would
Speaker 3: usually check on them a few times a day, so
Speaker 3: it happened she comes over to check on them, and
Speaker 3: all the kids lit up at once about there was
Speaker 3: a hairy man. With the older relative being concerned, she
Speaker 3: just had all the kids come with her back over
Speaker 3: to her house. She stayed back from fish camp to
Speaker 3: watch the kids and have an adult around. I want
Speaker 3: to thank Aggie because there was nothing overly dramatic that happened.
Speaker 3: It was just a visual sighting and then the movement
Speaker 3: and stuff. But she said the way she felt when
Speaker 3: this thing was eyeball on her, she didn't feel like
Speaker 3: she was in immediate danger. She just felt like this
Speaker 3: thing was watching her to see if they were dangerous.
Speaker 3: The kids were dangerous. And then once all the kids
Speaker 3: started opening their coach and making themselves bigger, and it
Speaker 3: got back down and took off, she said. She distinctly
Speaker 3: remembers hearing a weird kind of She wasn't sure if
Speaker 3: it was a grunt, but she said it sounded like
Speaker 3: a burt. And then shortly after that Burt is when
Speaker 3: the other movement started. So she suspects that it was
Speaker 3: a call from Mama to the little ones and they
Speaker 3: broke on again. This was in nineteen eighty one, and
Speaker 3: she remembers it vividly to this day. Thank goodness. There
Speaker 3: was nothing detrimental, no screaming or anything like that. But
Speaker 3: she's going to be in charge of some little kids
Speaker 3: and be young yourself and have something like that happen
Speaker 3: is just it's definitely jarring to the system. She's had
Speaker 3: encounters sim same village, same area that this particular trail,
Speaker 3: she come to find out years later, has been known
Speaker 3: over the years as many people have seen the harry
Speaker 3: Man over there. And from what she was told, there's
Speaker 3: a bluff back over there where these things reside if
Speaker 3: they stay away from a certain zone, which is a
Speaker 3: marsh over those hills, that bowl of hills. She said,
Speaker 3: there's a marsh on the opposite side of Muskeg and
Speaker 3: as long as you don't go past that, they won't
Speaker 3: throw rocks at you, they won't try to steal you.
Speaker 3: That's what she shared with me as to what she
Speaker 3: was told. One of her uncles ended up missing. No
Speaker 3: one knows how, no one knows why. No one's saying
Speaker 3: it was a hairy man. It just so happened that
Speaker 3: when her uncle went missing, and this was back when
Speaker 3: she was about three years old, so she doesn't remember it,
Speaker 3: but she had been told over the years that he
Speaker 3: went past that marsh and was never seen again. Search
Speaker 3: parties couldn't find them, no trace of them. And all that,
Speaker 3: but there's certain hush talks within the family that he
Speaker 3: got too close to the Harryman and went missing for it.
Speaker 3: So I was not there, but knowing what I've seen
Speaker 3: with my own eyes, I can't dismiss that either. Thank
Speaker 3: you guys for joining me. We will catch you on
Speaker 3: the next one.
Speaker 4: They say, you don't gotta go home, but.
Speaker 3: You can't stay.
Speaker 4: I don't want to be. We're all out there, chant
Speaker 4: this chard that chime. Everything came right, Bay rocking back
Speaker 4: for Joy, for me, Joy staying right.
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