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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, ripped bad news.

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<v Speaker 2>Didn't need advice when you don't have.

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<v Speaker 1>To come running just as fast as the can Shooter's

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<v Speaker 1>gonna help her come h Man.

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<v Speaker 3>Dix's the Troubleshooter Show. Now, Tom Martine.

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<v Speaker 4>Almost Hi, Tom Martino here. Three oh three seven one

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<v Speaker 4>three talk three oh three seven one three eight two

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<v Speaker 4>five five. Welcome to the Only Show if it's kind

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<v Speaker 4>anywhere in the universe. Let's try to get the show

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<v Speaker 4>on the road. I got just a little problem with

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<v Speaker 4>my earpiece, but I'll get right to it. So what's

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<v Speaker 4>going on and how can we help you? That's what

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<v Speaker 4>I ask each and every day. So happening here for example, Well, basically, I, uh, hey, hey, hey, hey, technically,

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<v Speaker 4>thank you Mark, I'm going to reboot.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you you guys, I got to reboot all right.

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<v Speaker 5>Three oh three seven one three a two five five. Hey, everybody,

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<v Speaker 5>just forget any of that ever happened.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's keep it at that. It's very simple.

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<v Speaker 5>It's the only show if it's kind'er here to solve problems,

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<v Speaker 5>answer questions, take complaints.

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<v Speaker 2>Say it with me. We want to make your life

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<v Speaker 2>just a little bit better.

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<v Speaker 5>Three zero three seven one three eight two five five

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<v Speaker 5>that's a telephone number three oh three, Martino, you've been

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<v Speaker 5>ripped off taking advantage of check this out over three

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<v Speaker 5>hundred million dollars in cash, merchandise exchanges refunds directly due

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<v Speaker 5>to this show in studio with me today.

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<v Speaker 2>You ready for.

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<v Speaker 5>This guy's Compass Insurance Brian Burns. Brian, it's great seeing

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<v Speaker 5>you man. I haven't I guess, I guess we've seen

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<v Speaker 5>each other in the past four weeks. So actually, is

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<v Speaker 5>that about right somewhere around there? Yeah, that's about right.

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<v Speaker 2>And who's this?

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<v Speaker 4>Uh?

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<v Speaker 2>Who is this person next to you, sir?

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<v Speaker 6>This next to me is my son, Riley Burns.

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<v Speaker 2>I love it. And he's been with the company Compass

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<v Speaker 2>for a couple of years.

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<v Speaker 6>A couple of years. He's been working on the renewal team,

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<v Speaker 6>so he deals with all the people that are coming

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<v Speaker 6>up renewal has to reach out to them and look

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<v Speaker 6>at other options. So, uh, he's been doing that and

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<v Speaker 6>now is kind of stepping out and becoming a producer.

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<v Speaker 5>So that's part of when we think of an insurance

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<v Speaker 5>agency like yourself.

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<v Speaker 2>Unlike companies at whole.

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<v Speaker 5>People hostage like State Farm all State, they only sell

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<v Speaker 5>their own product. You guys actually sell you know, thirty

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<v Speaker 5>different lines depending on if it's commercial or homeowners or whatever,

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<v Speaker 5>and you go out. So when you say the renewal division,

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<v Speaker 5>what Riley's been doing is every year you guys reach

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<v Speaker 5>out to me and say, hey, Mark, what you have

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<v Speaker 5>right now for car insurance is still probably the best,

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<v Speaker 5>but homeowners, we found you a little better deal, and

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<v Speaker 5>we might switch around.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, and I and right would probably speak to this

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<v Speaker 6>even better than me. But usually you try to keep

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<v Speaker 6>the auto and home together in most cases, if that

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<v Speaker 6>makes sense, yeah, just because they give you such a

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<v Speaker 6>discount for having together. But that's not always the case.

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<v Speaker 6>There are definitely times, especially in this market, where companies

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<v Speaker 6>don't really want the home insurance, so you just have

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<v Speaker 6>to kind of piece mail it and figure out what

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<v Speaker 6>the best overall option is.

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<v Speaker 5>How many times I'm thinking, I've done business with you

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<v Speaker 5>guys for at least fifteen years, yep, so, and I'm

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<v Speaker 5>thinking of how many times we switch some of the

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<v Speaker 5>big things, and people think about this out there. One

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<v Speaker 5>of the biggest ones is when our teenagers turned sixteen,

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<v Speaker 5>you immediately switched us from I don't remember who we

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<v Speaker 5>were with, but we ended up going with I think progressive.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, yep, I think you're right. I think we went

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<v Speaker 6>to progressive. And I'm trying to remember who it was

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<v Speaker 6>we were with before that too, But you're right. I

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<v Speaker 6>would say there's a few different areas where it's like

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<v Speaker 6>the optimal time to shop if you're out there, and

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<v Speaker 6>it is, having young drivers come on is probably number one,

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<v Speaker 6>just because the cost. We'll have companies where we put

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<v Speaker 6>the same information in and it could be a range

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<v Speaker 6>of one hundred percent higher in one company than another. Wow,

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<v Speaker 6>it can be double double the rate. And so when

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<v Speaker 6>people you know, are with the carrier and they add

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<v Speaker 6>their young drivers on, that's the time they should, I

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<v Speaker 6>mean chop around. If you're with us State farmer farmers

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<v Speaker 6>are one of those that they're not gonna be able

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<v Speaker 6>shop you. So that's the perfect time to you know,

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<v Speaker 6>give us a call drivers.

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<v Speaker 2>How about this sounds now? Speaking speaking of uh, speaking.

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<v Speaker 4>Of insurance, let's go to the mic. First on the

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<v Speaker 4>car wreck, we have John Fuller standing by for him

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<v Speaker 4>and then sorry for the technical.

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<v Speaker 2>We don't have any of those people uptown.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh I'm sorry, I thought, Oh that's that's uh yeah, okay,

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<v Speaker 4>it said we did.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I'm sorry, working on it to get it back up.

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<v Speaker 2>Who was online one? Kelly? What's the name. Well, let's

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<v Speaker 2>just go to line one.

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<v Speaker 7>No hold on, Hold on, hold on. I need to

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<v Speaker 7>get another attorney on. We have this scheduled. I apologize.

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<v Speaker 7>I had to kind of reboot the computer.

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<v Speaker 2>That's fine, I'll get it. We'll get him on hold.

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<v Speaker 4>He was just just give us, anybody, just just give

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<v Speaker 4>us whoever's there.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, that's it, it's us, buddy. Okay. Well, anyway, so, Brian,

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<v Speaker 2>this is a good one.

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<v Speaker 4>Somebody wants to know about business interruption insurance. Yes, and

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<v Speaker 4>they want to know when does that kick in? Somebody

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<v Speaker 4>was having a problem collecting it. They didn't say what

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<v Speaker 4>it was from, so I don't know if it's from whatever.

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<v Speaker 4>But when does business interruption? We should explain that Compass

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<v Speaker 4>Insurance Group does residential home, you know, auto and that

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<v Speaker 4>kind of stuff, but you also do business insurance. And

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<v Speaker 4>there are different kinds of lines for business like liability

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<v Speaker 4>if you have a business you hurt somebody, or do

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<v Speaker 4>you have errors and emissions as well? Yep, yep, okay,

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<v Speaker 4>So what's business interruption insurance?

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<v Speaker 6>So, and with your first question was like how long

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<v Speaker 6>does it take to it, you know, kicks in. So

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<v Speaker 6>what that is if your business there's a fire in

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<v Speaker 6>your in your restaurants and you no longer can have

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<v Speaker 6>customers coming in, that would be your business interruption insurance

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<v Speaker 6>that would step in and cover you with that point,

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<v Speaker 6>And as far as the deductibles if you want to

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<v Speaker 6>use that word, would be a period of time, So

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<v Speaker 6>you purchase what period of time you want. It could

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<v Speaker 6>be a month, thirty days, it could be sixty days.

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<v Speaker 2>So yeah, but what's the events?

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<v Speaker 4>What are the events that are allowed to kick it in?

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<v Speaker 4>In other words, you know, it can't be a bad rainstorm,

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, what is it?

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<v Speaker 2>Right?

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah? No, I mean, like I said, fire would be

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<v Speaker 6>one water damage. If you think about casualty losses when

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<v Speaker 6>when those things occur, those are the ones that would

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<v Speaker 6>come to mind most frequently. And again it depends on

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<v Speaker 6>the kind of business. What would be a more common loss.

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<v Speaker 6>But for a restaurant, fire is a very common loss

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<v Speaker 6>because there's kitchen fires and then they're knocked out of it.

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<v Speaker 6>But and then they actually have to you know, kick

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<v Speaker 6>in their business interruption insurance to be able to cover

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<v Speaker 6>them during that time.

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<v Speaker 4>So even after the loss occurs, not the loss, the interruption.

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<v Speaker 2>There's a certain waiting period.

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<v Speaker 6>Yes, yeah, it's whatever you chose to purchase whenever you

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<v Speaker 6>get the policy. Obviously, the longer period of time, the

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<v Speaker 6>less expensive the insurance. So it's the equivalent of a deductible,

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<v Speaker 6>just like people have a higher deductible for their homes.

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<v Speaker 6>It's a matter of tolerance as far as what they choose.

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<v Speaker 4>Now, I remember during COVID a lot of people were

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<v Speaker 4>upset that their business interruption insurance excluded pandemics.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, yep.

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<v Speaker 2>One and terrorist attacks.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, and terrorist attacks, and you'll see that. You know,

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<v Speaker 6>there are companies where you can buy you know, writers

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<v Speaker 6>for that type of coverage, but it's pretty expensive to

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<v Speaker 6>go that route.

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<v Speaker 5>But when these guys like in where was it, New Orleans?

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<v Speaker 5>That guy rolled over and killed all those people on

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<v Speaker 5>Bourbon Street with this vehicle. They said that was a

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<v Speaker 5>terrorist attack. Does that mean the insurance wouldn't pay out, like,

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<v Speaker 5>for example, life insurance policy if you were killed by.

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<v Speaker 6>That management point yeah. No, Life insurance doesn't point mark.

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<v Speaker 2>They can call anything anything.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah. Life insurance doesn't have those same kind of exclusions.

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<v Speaker 6>It's a much more broad coverage, but things like business

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<v Speaker 6>interruption in that sense. Let's say they shut down Bourbon

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<v Speaker 6>Street and you didn't have any customers coming in again,

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<v Speaker 6>it was for a short period of time, but that

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<v Speaker 6>terrorist attack would. If your policy doesn't cover the peril

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<v Speaker 6>of terrorism, then they could they could exclude that.

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<v Speaker 2>Got it? Okay? All right? Three oh three seven one

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<v Speaker 2>three talk three oh three, seven to three, eight two,

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<v Speaker 2>five to five. Dustin your turn? What's going on with you? Dustin?

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<v Speaker 8>So I've been going through a terrible custody and disillusion

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<v Speaker 8>of marriage battle for two years a little actually longer

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<v Speaker 8>than that.

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<v Speaker 9>When it all first started.

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<v Speaker 8>Uh, I just found out a whole plethora of lies

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<v Speaker 4>Now, Dustin, when did this? Here's what I have to

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<v Speaker 4>ask you, though, sir. When did it all start? When

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<v Speaker 4>did you file for divorce?

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<v Speaker 9>Twenty two?

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<v Speaker 2>Okay?

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<v Speaker 4>And what what was it ever adjudicated? Did you get

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<v Speaker 4>a final decree?

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<v Speaker 10>Yes?

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<v Speaker 8>So I was getting my son five days a week

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<v Speaker 8>with my ex wife to have him on the weekends.

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<v Speaker 8>That was supposed to be in September first of twenty

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<v Speaker 11>My ex wife never followed the court order and instead

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<v Speaker 11>the day after the hearings, he filed a bunch of

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<v Speaker 11>false allegations in different counties on me, allegations of sexual assault.

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<v Speaker 10>I mean, you name it.

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<v Speaker 8>Whatever do you want to make us?

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<v Speaker 2>Was this okay?

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<v Speaker 4>So wait wait wait, So after the final decree and

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<v Speaker 4>after the child care plan for certain visitation, your wife

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<v Speaker 4>then tried to take that away.

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<v Speaker 8>Yeah, she just kept him. He never turned him over.

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<v Speaker 8>She was actually supposed to pay five hundred I get it.

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<v Speaker 2>How long?

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<v Speaker 4>Okay, So the divorce was final on a certain date,

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<v Speaker 4>and she never ever ever complied with visitation. Correct, even

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<v Speaker 4>though you're telling me that the final decree and the

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<v Speaker 4>parenting plan called for certain visitation.

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<v Speaker 10>Correct.

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<v Speaker 8>And I'll think it one step further. We finally got

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<v Speaker 8>before a judge about six about five months ago, and

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<v Speaker 8>addressed the court with her non compliance with the court order,

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<v Speaker 8>and the judge asked her to bring my son to

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<v Speaker 8>the court, whereas the next day I was given him

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<v Speaker 8>in full custody. She was only allowed two hours of

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<v Speaker 8>supervision time per week. After the third visit, she tried

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<v Speaker 8>to false report that I had broken a protection order.

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<v Speaker 8>She's got other false allegations against him.

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<v Speaker 2>So wait a minute.

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<v Speaker 4>So way you should have led with that, Dustin. You

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<v Speaker 4>were given full custody. She was the one given, she

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<v Speaker 4>was the one given visitation, and now she's trying to do.

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<v Speaker 4>What is she trying to take away your custody? Or

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<v Speaker 4>does she want to go back to joint or what

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<v Speaker 8>She's trying to destroy my life. Ultimately, that's all she's

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<v Speaker 4>I don't okay, but I need to know this. What

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<v Speaker 4>is her end goal? Hold on, I get it, I

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<v Speaker 4>get it, Dustin. That's everyone's goal in the divorce to

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<v Speaker 4>That's everyone's goal. It shouldn't be, but unfortunately it is.

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<v Speaker 4>So what I want to know is this, now that

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<v Speaker 4>is the child?

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<v Speaker 2>Do you still have full custody?

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<v Speaker 10>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 8>He's been with me since November thirteenth. I have him

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<v Speaker 8>Yep.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay.

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<v Speaker 4>Now what kind of proof or evidence is she presenting

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<v Speaker 4>for her accusations?

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<v Speaker 8>Nothing? Literally nothing, it's all hearsay evidence. It's all verbal

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<v Speaker 8>she's provided, like, okay, and what are the.

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<v Speaker 4>How did she actually did she actually file these in court.

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<v Speaker 10>Yes, I've been.

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<v Speaker 8>There's been fifteen cases brought against me in court on allegations.

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<v Speaker 8>That's been eleven days in jail for faith, fake out gas.

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<v Speaker 8>To only have fifteen cases dismissed, it's great, it's crazy.

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<v Speaker 4>Yes, give me an example of an accusation that landed

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<v Speaker 8>County, Yes, sir. At Denver County, she claimed that I

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<v Speaker 8>had sexually molested my son, who was three years old

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<v Speaker 8>that never happened during the time we were married as well,

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<v Speaker 8>and my son was conceived. I was actually on probation,

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<v Speaker 8>and man, there's a lot of details of the story, but.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, like a let me ask you this.

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<v Speaker 4>Were you on Were you on probation for sexual of

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<v Speaker 4>any kind?

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<v Speaker 2>Sexual charges of any kind?

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<v Speaker 10>Yes?

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<v Speaker 8>An online Internet of sense that she was fully aware of.

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<v Speaker 2>Hold on the online? Was it with the youngsters?

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<v Speaker 10>It was?

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<v Speaker 2>Hold on, We'll.

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<v Speaker 8>Come twenty twelve and I'm coming.

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<v Speaker 4>back to the phones. We were trying to get an

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<v Speaker 4>attorney to answer this Dustin. But I will say this, Okay,

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<v Speaker 4>I did.

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<v Speaker 2>I need to ask some basic questions.

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<v Speaker 4>Basically, what you're saying is she keeps making accusations. The

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<v Speaker 4>courts are used to this, Okay, they're used to this.

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<v Speaker 4>Now you say all fifteen charges. She brought up fifteen

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<v Speaker 4>charges and all were dismissed.

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<v Speaker 2>Is that right?

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<v Speaker 12>Yes, sir?

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, So don't the courts go ahead? What did you say?

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<v Speaker 8>There was a CPS report found that my son was

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<v Speaker 8>being coached.

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<v Speaker 10>To say things, and.

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<v Speaker 2>I get it.

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<v Speaker 4>So now now isn't it solved? Then you had hold on,

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<v Speaker 4>isn't it solved? You had all fifteen discharged or dismissed, And.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, isn't it done currently?

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<v Speaker 8>So currently, sir, I am facing one more false allegation

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<v Speaker 8>of harassments, which is all calls that I had left

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<v Speaker 8>as a record to just stay involved and connected to

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<v Speaker 8>my son. And he also goes through the Talking Parents app.

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<v Speaker 8>But her and her husband run a nonprofit legal service

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<v Speaker 8>and they're they're they're just they're just on this like

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<v Speaker 8>judicial attack. They're weaponizing the justices that it's been sett

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<v Speaker 8>in court.

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<v Speaker 4>So here's what I want to know, justin so right now,

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<v Speaker 4>all the stuff you told us is behind you and

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<v Speaker 4>the only thing going on now, And I don't mean

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<v Speaker 4>it's I don't mean to sound like it's a walk

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<v Speaker 4>in the park, but the only thing going on now

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<v Speaker 4>is basically now they're going after you for harassment.

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<v Speaker 8>And they're also suing me in the federal court for

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<v Speaker 8>ten million dollars and also two other.

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<v Speaker 4>Wait wait, why are they suing you for ten million dollars?

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<v Speaker 8>They claim libel and slander because in court, under testimony

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<v Speaker 8>or under oath, I said that I was I knew

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<v Speaker 8>of her husband to have a violent history, which the

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<v Speaker 8>judge agreed with me. That is literally it. That is

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<v Speaker 8>literally it.

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<v Speaker 2>Well then that would be thrown out, man, I would imagine.

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<v Speaker 8>But I mean, I've been going to court for two

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<v Speaker 8>years plus on this and I don't know where the

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<v Speaker 8>justice is going to come and where the accountability.

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<v Speaker 4>So what are you calling about? What are you calling

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<v Speaker 4>about today? Dustin? It's pretty obvious we're not going to

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<v Speaker 4>solve your problem. What are you calling about?

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<v Speaker 8>Ultimately, I'm just looking for help. I mean, I'm looking

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<v Speaker 8>for a solution, a wait, to prevent this harassment on

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<v Speaker 8>me and my son.

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<v Speaker 13>That's it.

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<v Speaker 2>There's no way. There's no way. There's no way. All right.

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<v Speaker 4>They're saying you're the one harassing. You're gonna have to

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<v Speaker 4>let it play through the courts. Man, I wish I

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<v Speaker 4>had better better answer for you, But truly, I don't

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<v Speaker 4>anyone anybody can use the court systems now. If it's

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<v Speaker 4>turns out she's abuse and abusive service and all or abusive.

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<v Speaker 2>Uh, I don't know what they.

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<v Speaker 4>Call it, but whatever it is, that'll be up to

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<v Speaker 4>the judge. Dustin, this is terrible. Can you afford an attorney?

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<v Speaker 8>Not really?

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<v Speaker 13>But I have been.

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<v Speaker 4>Now this ten million dollar lawsuit? Does it have any legs?

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<v Speaker 2>I mean seriously, not legitimately.

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<v Speaker 4>No, I'm not asking if you agree I it does.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm asking you if she has any kind Did you

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<v Speaker 4>make certain statements?

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<v Speaker 2>Did it cause them damage? I have watched the straight

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<v Speaker 2>Have you hired Have you hired an attorney yet?

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<v Speaker 13>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 8>I've had one throughout the majority of this process and

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<v Speaker 8>some of the stuff he's done for me pro.

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<v Speaker 9>Bono, but it's been hard to keep up with payments.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, well, it sounds like he's doing pretty good.

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<v Speaker 5>If the fifteen different things he came after you so far,

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<v Speaker 5>there's only one hanging out there and the rest went away.

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<v Speaker 14>Yeah, yeah, he is.

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<v Speaker 8>I'm just I don't know, man. I reached out because

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<v Speaker 8>it's desperation time, you know, like he's suing my son's principles.

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<v Speaker 8>She's doing obviously said you can use the justice of anybody.

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<v Speaker 2>They're nuts. They sound like they're nuts.

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<v Speaker 13>They are.

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<v Speaker 2>What is he what is he suing? What is he

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<v Speaker 2>suing the Sun's principle for? What is he saying? A

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<v Speaker 2>careful what you say over the air too, brother? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 2>What is he suing for the principle?

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<v Speaker 8>For their upholding the court order of custody?

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, because they were not letting him go.

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<v Speaker 8>Yeah, he's not supposed to. You know, she only gets

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<v Speaker 8>two hours supervised contact.

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<v Speaker 4>So all right, listen, I feel for you, man, Dustin,

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<v Speaker 4>I feel for you. I don't know what else to say.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, so you just gotta battle this out. Divorces

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<v Speaker 4>are destructive. They're destructive. Most people, like I said, do

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<v Speaker 2>Issue with trash pickup. And speaking of trash, we got

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<v Speaker 2>that did not sound right. Thanks Tom, But I want

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<v Speaker 2>Deputy DS, I'm in garbage. I'll be the first to

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<v Speaker 2>admit recycling. You're in garbage? Yeah, is it?

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<v Speaker 12>Well?

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<v Speaker 4>Wait, just like remember in the graduates, Remember in the graduates,

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>Anyway, So now mid Dmitri at a wedding reception with

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<v Speaker 2>I'll tell you anyway, Marianne, what's going on?

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<v Speaker 4>Dmitri is familiar with the recycling and trash business.

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<v Speaker 2>So what's going on, Marianne.

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<v Speaker 15>changing trash vendors and the new vendor was going to

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<v Speaker 15>be waste Connections. Well, they it came on the property

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<v Speaker 15>around February sixth. They delivered some containers, some garbage bins,

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<v Speaker 15>not all of them, and we have not seen them since.

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<v Speaker 15>So we've had no garbage pickup since.

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<v Speaker 4>Wait, so and so the other one was discontinuing and

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<v Speaker 4>the new one was taking over.

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<v Speaker 2>Correct And is this a subdivision on.

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<v Speaker 15>The property since they delivered some garbage bins, we have

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<v Speaker 15>four parking lots.

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<v Speaker 4>Is this an apartment complex, a condo complex, a housing housing.

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<v Speaker 15>Some condo complex, and.

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<v Speaker 2>So they have dumpsters that you all use.

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<v Speaker 15>They Well, the new garbage company, Waste Connections, brought some

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<v Speaker 15>new garbage bins on the property, right, but they have

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<v Speaker 15>not emptied any of the garbage since the beginning of February.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, what is the HOA or the management company say.

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<v Speaker 15>They have been. They have been in touch with Waste

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<v Speaker 15>Connections too, and when not getting any response, I called

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<v Speaker 15>JES today Waste Connections and all customer service was telling me, Oh,

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<v Speaker 15>they've been on the property. They've been on the property.

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<v Speaker 15>No one has been on the property. We've got trash

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<v Speaker 15>all over the place.

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<v Speaker 2>Now, how does it work?

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<v Speaker 4>Do you put out your own bins or are they

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<v Speaker 4>centralized bins?

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<v Speaker 15>No, they belong to the waste connection.

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<v Speaker 2>So it's a big dumpster. I know they belong to them.

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<v Speaker 4>But does each condo have its own bins or how

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<v Speaker 4>does it work? Or do you have a central bin

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<v Speaker 4>or several central big bins.

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<v Speaker 15>We have several central bins, got it on the property,

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<v Speaker 15>and everybody dumps their garbage in these bins and this

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<v Speaker 15>folks got it empty three times a week.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I mean, this isn't surgery.

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<v Speaker 5>You got to call up and figure out why they're

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<v Speaker 5>not picking it up, right, I mean, it is a

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<v Speaker 5>bill being paid.

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<v Speaker 15>Well if we just signed the contract, so we haven't

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<v Speaker 15>really had a bill yet.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, let's have Deputy d call over there right now. Yeah, Tom,

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<v Speaker 2>I'll be happy to.

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<v Speaker 16>I know a guy over there, so uh, I'll talk

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<v Speaker 16>to Mary Anne get hurt.

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<v Speaker 2>The trash biz. You know a guy in the trash

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<v Speaker 2>Mikey the Shoe.

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<v Speaker 16>So uh, let me get him a call and uh

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<v Speaker 16>find out what's going on. It sounds like Marianne's complex,

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<v Speaker 16>not the dumpsters, but they haven't started.

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<v Speaker 4>See if you're talking to trash business, it's not Mikey

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<v Speaker 4>the Shoe, it's Dino the disposer. Come on, that's the

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<v Speaker 4>laws a disposer anyway. Three h three seven one three

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<v Speaker 4>talk seven one three eight two five five. Now Shannon

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<v Speaker 4>as a special president. I want to see if this

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<v Speaker 4>is going to work, because it's never worked. It hasn't

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<v Speaker 4>worked since my new setup. I'm gonna try it.

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<v Speaker 2>Hold on, see if you can hear something here like

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<v Speaker 2>Do mine? I just heard it?

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<v Speaker 4>Listen, did you hear Did you hear my dinger? Just

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<v Speaker 2>Yes? Guys? Did you? Okay? I could barely hear it,

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<v Speaker 2>barely see it, but yes. I don't know why it's

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<v Speaker 2>so low, but okay, well, thank you.

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<v Speaker 4>At least I have an idea that my dinger is working,

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<v Speaker 4>because there was some doubt about that. Three oh three

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<v Speaker 2>You don't pay a cent until you're content.

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<v Speaker 4>nine two zero sixteen twenty two. Hi Tom Martino here

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<v Speaker 4>three O three seven one three talk seven one three

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<v Speaker 4>A two five five. Hey, how can we help you?

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<v Speaker 4>We want to do that each and every day. That's

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<v Speaker 4>what we do here, and so we're gonna go to

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<v Speaker 4>the phones. Brian Burns is with us from Compass Insurance Group.

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<v Speaker 4>And when they are here, by the way, we do

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<v Speaker 4>these uh live insurance checkoffs, meaning you called, they're not live,

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<v Speaker 4>they're live updates.

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<v Speaker 2>They do them every day. But if you want to call.

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<v Speaker 4>Three or three nine nine six nine thousand right now

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<v Speaker 4>and ask for an insurance check up, what they do

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<v Speaker 4>is go over your coverages, what you have and let

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<v Speaker 4>you know if you're covered adequately or maybe you're paying

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<v Speaker 4>for too much coverage or not enough, and how much

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<v Speaker 4>you're paying, is it too much or is it a

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<v Speaker 4>great deal. It's a total, one honest assessment of what

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<v Speaker 4>you have. Three h three nine niney sixty nine thousand.

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<v Speaker 4>Then what we're gonna do is We're gonna check back

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<v Speaker 4>with Brian from time to time on those Mary Anne

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<v Speaker 4>with this trash pickup, I have a very easy I'm sorry.

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<v Speaker 4>We're gonna give it to Deputy D to call over there.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't want to go back to her right now.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm gonna wait for d.

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<v Speaker 2>Jake. What's going on with you, Jake?

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<v Speaker 9>I'm calling in here suggesting by my father. Apparently you're

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<v Speaker 9>pretty good with the next steps and ideas on stuff

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<v Speaker 9>on your No.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, what's going on with what's going on with your dad?

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<v Speaker 13>Jake?

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<v Speaker 2>What's going on?

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<v Speaker 9>He was that suggested?

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<v Speaker 2>It?

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<v Speaker 9>Problems actually with my mom? Yeah, Mom got sold a

545
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<v Speaker 9>car by the Mercedes Benz of Denver Folks, and I think, man,

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<v Speaker 9>it's hard to know what to do next.

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<v Speaker 4>All right, let's let's talk about this. Is this about

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<v Speaker 4>purchase or service.

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<v Speaker 10>Purchase?

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<v Speaker 9>And so she was sold a car in November. This

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<v Speaker 9>was a twenty twelve Sedan and.

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<v Speaker 2>She's okay, was it was it a Was it a Mercedes?

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<v Speaker 9>Nope, it was just a used vehicle. It was a

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<v Speaker 9>It was a Nissan.

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<v Speaker 2>Versa, Okay.

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<v Speaker 4>So she bought a Nissan Versa, a twenty twelve in November,

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<v Speaker 4>you said yep and okay.

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<v Speaker 9>And what happened on the highway. She didn't get it

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<v Speaker 9>evaluated by any third party. I think that these were

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<v Speaker 9>both mistakes. She drove it off the lot and a

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<v Speaker 9>couple of days later she was in the highway, rattled

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<v Speaker 9>so bad it scared her half to death. She took

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<v Speaker 9>it in to get it looked at. Andy. It was

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<v Speaker 9>like three to four thousand dollars worth of safety repairs

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<v Speaker 9>on top of this five thousand dollars she spent on.

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<v Speaker 4>It, So she only spent five grand on it. How

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<v Speaker 4>many miles were on it?

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<v Speaker 9>Take one hundred and fifty or so. I think I'm

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<v Speaker 9>pretty sure it was pretty similar for both vehicles to

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<v Speaker 9>the level.

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<v Speaker 2>Why didn't she Why don't you think?

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<v Speaker 4>Why don't you think she got it checked out? With

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<v Speaker 4>one hundred and fifty thousand miles on it?

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<v Speaker 9>She trusted them and they said that their mechanics had

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<v Speaker 9>checked it out and they said it was okay and

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<v Speaker 9>was safe to drive.

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<v Speaker 4>And did they put that on the invoice, that it

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<v Speaker 4>was okay and safe.

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<v Speaker 9>I'll have to check with her on that, but from

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<v Speaker 9>from my understanding of her walking away from that, they

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<v Speaker 9>had assured her updown left right in the center. But

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<v Speaker 9>I say it was no good.

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<v Speaker 4>They assured her of nothing. Jake, Here's what the contract

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<v Speaker 4>said as is. Okay, I'm just going to tell you

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<v Speaker 4>because I do this, I do this thousands of times

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<v Speaker 4>a year. First, I give you the good the bad news.

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<v Speaker 4>Then we try to find some good news in this

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<v Speaker 4>to help you. But the bad news is it's the

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<v Speaker 4>used car. And unless now listen carefully to what I say,

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<v Speaker 4>to which most consumers say yes they did. Unless they

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<v Speaker 4>lied to you, cheated you, or frauded you, there's nothing

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<v Speaker 4>you can do about it. But with an as is purchase,

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<v Speaker 4>they can't lie or cheat, or cover up or be fraudulent. Okay,

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<v Speaker 4>Now that doesn't mean listen carefully. They don't have to

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<v Speaker 4>tell you everything wrong with the car. Go with a

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<v Speaker 4>sure thing Denver's Best roofer Excel roofing dot com. You

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<v Speaker 4>don't pay a cent until you're content. Time for an

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<v Speaker 4>insurance checkup free, no obligation. In comparison, call Compass insurance

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<v Speaker 4>paying too much your coverage at dozens of insurance companies

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<v Speaker 4>find out now three all three seven to seven to

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<v Speaker 4>one help You'll think you're his only customer when you

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<v Speaker 4>choose Frank durand the real estate man dot Com to

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<v Speaker 4>list your home with Remax Alliance three nine two zero

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<v Speaker 4>sixteen twenty two.

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<v Speaker 10>Yeah, ripped up.

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<v Speaker 7>News needed.

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<v Speaker 1>That's who you don't have.

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<v Speaker 14>Come running just as fast as we can.

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<v Speaker 9>Show.

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<v Speaker 2>Shooter's gonna help coming Man Dix. He is the Troubleshooter Show.

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<v Speaker 2>Now Tom Martine. Hey, I'm Tom Martino. You're Troubleshooter. Welcome

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<v Speaker 2>to the show.

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<v Speaker 4>Three all three seven one three talk three all three

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<v Speaker 4>seven one three eight two five five. Here to help you.

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<v Speaker 4>We try to help you each and every day. The

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<v Speaker 4>things that tick you off, the things that make you tick.

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<v Speaker 4>This hour brought to you by Dan McKenzie. Dan McKenzie

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<v Speaker 4>is an estate planning attorney and I know him, We've

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<v Speaker 4>used him, I referred him. He's a very he's a

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<v Speaker 4>good expert that we have on the show. For trusts

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<v Speaker 4>for businesses. He can clue you in on all these

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<v Speaker 4>Eight three three co plans eight three three c plans.

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<v Speaker 4>He is live and local. It sounds like a national number,

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<v Speaker 4>but he's live and local here in Denver A three

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<v Speaker 4>three co plans. Now that's Dan mackenzie. Welcome to the show, everyone,

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<v Speaker 4>and let's talk about your life.

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<v Speaker 2>Now.

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<v Speaker 4>We left off with the guy, and I don't blame

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<v Speaker 4>him for being upset. Listen, everyone is upset when they

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<v Speaker 4>buy a car and that falls apart. And this is

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<v Speaker 4>what happened with Jake. I want, I want, I just

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<v Speaker 4>want to say this in a.

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<v Speaker 12>Set.

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<v Speaker 4>He's setting this up to where they are either liars

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<v Speaker 4>or cheaters or dodgers or something, because here's what he said.

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<v Speaker 4>They are shorter of this if if them started had

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<v Speaker 4>serious safety issues and then he spoke to the other,

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<v Speaker 4>but before where he could speak to him, they dodged him. Okay,

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<v Speaker 4>now listen, all of that might be true. So far,

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<v Speaker 4>they've done nothing wrong so far. This dealer sold her

646
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<v Speaker 4>a used car as is with one hundred and fifty

647
00:35:11.519 --> 00:35:15.159
<v Speaker 4>thousand miles on it, and she bought it and had trouble. Now,

648
00:35:15.280 --> 00:35:18.000
<v Speaker 4>what they can't do is liar cheat. I don't think

649
00:35:18.079 --> 00:35:20.119
<v Speaker 4>they did. I want to cut right to the chase.

650
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<v Speaker 4>One of the only strategies, Jake, that I see that

651
00:35:23.400 --> 00:35:24.639
<v Speaker 4>you have that will work.

652
00:35:25.280 --> 00:35:27.920
<v Speaker 2>Is even under the law. Mark helped me out on

653
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<v Speaker 2>this because I know, just to catch.

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<v Speaker 5>Everybody up, though, how long did your mom have it

655
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<v Speaker 5>before finding out this five thousand dollars vehicle needed seven

656
00:35:35.760 --> 00:35:36.599
<v Speaker 5>grand worth of work?

657
00:35:36.920 --> 00:35:37.719
<v Speaker 2>Was it like a day?

658
00:35:37.800 --> 00:35:38.159
<v Speaker 10>A month?

659
00:35:38.239 --> 00:35:38.960
<v Speaker 2>How long was it.

660
00:35:40.519 --> 00:35:43.480
<v Speaker 9>He was three to four thousand dollars for repairs? And

661
00:35:44.079 --> 00:35:45.840
<v Speaker 9>she only she only drove it like a day or

662
00:35:45.880 --> 00:35:48.280
<v Speaker 9>two off the off the lot for she realized it rattled,

663
00:35:48.360 --> 00:35:50.679
<v Speaker 9>and she took it in like that week afterwards.

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<v Speaker 2>I think I think it's you understand.

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00:35:54.360 --> 00:35:58.119
<v Speaker 4>You understand she could have testro that before she did

666
00:35:58.199 --> 00:35:59.880
<v Speaker 4>all of this and then taken it to him.

667
00:36:00.880 --> 00:36:03.199
<v Speaker 2>So we got to start out on the right foot.

668
00:36:03.320 --> 00:36:05.400
<v Speaker 2>And that is this, Jake.

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<v Speaker 4>You don't have any special rights here that I know of,

670
00:36:08.239 --> 00:36:12.320
<v Speaker 4>except Mark. This issue that we used to debate all

671
00:36:12.400 --> 00:36:16.239
<v Speaker 4>the time in Colorado. Even when you buy a car

672
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<v Speaker 4>as is.

673
00:36:18.719 --> 00:36:23.599
<v Speaker 2>There must be certain working safety issues.

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<v Speaker 4>Okay, so our safety equipment I'd like to know. When

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00:36:30.119 --> 00:36:34.519
<v Speaker 4>he said safety. What are you calling safety issues.

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<v Speaker 9>I've got a couple of pictures of something. I can

677
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<v Speaker 9>pull those up.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't need Yeah, I just need to tell because

679
00:36:43.639 --> 00:36:48.039
<v Speaker 2>here's what safety is considered. Here's what safety is considered

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<v Speaker 2>by law.

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<v Speaker 4>The vehicle must have functioning breakes, turn signals, break lights, tires,

682
00:36:56.920 --> 00:37:02.360
<v Speaker 4>a windshield, a wind shield. It must have tires, but

683
00:37:03.159 --> 00:37:06.079
<v Speaker 4>they can be very bad tires. It must have a horn,

684
00:37:06.440 --> 00:37:08.639
<v Speaker 4>it must have seat belts, and it must have a mirror.

685
00:37:09.280 --> 00:37:13.920
<v Speaker 4>Unless your safety concerns fall into those categories, you're not

686
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<v Speaker 4>going to get a system.

687
00:37:15.239 --> 00:37:15.400
<v Speaker 14>Now.

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00:37:15.719 --> 00:37:22.000
<v Speaker 4>There is another thing. It has to pass emissions. So

689
00:37:22.519 --> 00:37:26.519
<v Speaker 4>tell me the safety issues. Tell me the safety issues.

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<v Speaker 9>The struts were so messed up that you know, it

691
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<v Speaker 9>really impairs.

692
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<v Speaker 4>That's not a safety that's not a safety issue.

693
00:37:36.719 --> 00:37:40.679
<v Speaker 2>Okay, what else? What else? I'm trying to.

694
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<v Speaker 4>Give you ammunition. I'm not trying to trick you. I

695
00:37:42.920 --> 00:37:45.320
<v Speaker 4>want you to know that, Jack, I'm not Jake. I'm

696
00:37:45.400 --> 00:37:48.000
<v Speaker 4>not trying to trick you. I'm trying to give you ammunition.

697
00:37:48.199 --> 00:37:52.199
<v Speaker 4>Where's your ammunition. Let's let's talk about it, yep.

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<v Speaker 9>I think the ones that come to mind are shock observers.

699
00:37:55.880 --> 00:37:59.840
<v Speaker 9>The struts the mass airflow sensor is completely broken, and

700
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<v Speaker 9>the two induction system is messed up.

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<v Speaker 4>Plus not one of those things, Not one of those

702
00:38:05.760 --> 00:38:08.960
<v Speaker 4>things is considered a vital safety issue.

703
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<v Speaker 2>Not one of them. Now you can go try to

704
00:38:11.360 --> 00:38:18.159
<v Speaker 2>change the law, but you're not going to that's not considered.

705
00:38:18.440 --> 00:38:20.920
<v Speaker 2>That's not considered. I would love to do a test

706
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<v Speaker 2>case on one of these and actually sue them.

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<v Speaker 5>And I love the idea that this one's only five

708
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<v Speaker 5>thousand bucks for this vehicle because it's under small claims.

709
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<v Speaker 5>I think he, I really think you should have your

710
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<v Speaker 5>mother sue him in small claims court.

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<v Speaker 4>It's only going to cost under what under what under breach?

712
00:38:37.360 --> 00:38:39.400
<v Speaker 4>Wait wait, wait, under breach of contractor what?

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<v Speaker 5>I would actually draw out that those shocks in the

714
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<v Speaker 5>struts in the housings are a true safety component with

715
00:38:47.159 --> 00:38:50.320
<v Speaker 5>the steering. I would make those arguments. I don't know

716
00:38:50.360 --> 00:38:52.360
<v Speaker 5>where it's going to go, so don't get me wrong,

717
00:38:52.719 --> 00:38:55.920
<v Speaker 5>but I would love to actually test the theory because

718
00:38:56.119 --> 00:38:59.079
<v Speaker 5>those laws have been around forever. But I can't think

719
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<v Speaker 5>of anybody that's actually held a dealer's.

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<v Speaker 2>Feet to the fire.

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<v Speaker 4>He Jake Mark has a point, and that is because

722
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<v Speaker 4>of the price of that car. You are in a

723
00:39:11.320 --> 00:39:15.920
<v Speaker 4>unique position to sue them for breach of safety. Now

724
00:39:16.119 --> 00:39:19.519
<v Speaker 4>it's an implied contract by law that it has to

725
00:39:19.599 --> 00:39:20.119
<v Speaker 4>be safe.

726
00:39:20.440 --> 00:39:22.880
<v Speaker 2>Now, in my opinion, you're going to lose.

727
00:39:23.599 --> 00:39:26.519
<v Speaker 4>However, I think what will happen is this if you

728
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<v Speaker 4>try to make the argument that the struts in the

729
00:39:29.239 --> 00:39:33.360
<v Speaker 4>shocks are part of safety, and whatever you do, he

730
00:39:33.440 --> 00:39:35.840
<v Speaker 4>doesn't even have to be legal ease. You just try

731
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<v Speaker 4>to make the and your mom has to do this.

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<v Speaker 4>Of course you can help her, but you can't be

733
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<v Speaker 4>our counsel when you do this. What's probably going to

734
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<v Speaker 4>happen is they're going to want to settle with you.

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<v Speaker 2>That's what Mark is getting at. I believe what you get.

736
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<v Speaker 2>Is that what you're getting.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, but I think he might Okay, I'm going off

738
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<v Speaker 5>of what he's saying. But if his mom brought this

739
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<v Speaker 5>over to say Kevin Caulkin, and Kevin goes, yeah, these

740
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<v Speaker 5>these strut towers, you know, these things could break. This

741
00:40:03.039 --> 00:40:06.679
<v Speaker 5>thing's a danger. That is gonna be great. Plus I'm

742
00:40:06.719 --> 00:40:10.800
<v Speaker 5>sure Kevin would show up as a witness and be

743
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<v Speaker 5>an actual witness, So I.

744
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<v Speaker 2>Think that would be great.

745
00:40:13.599 --> 00:40:16.320
<v Speaker 5>But if they get over there and Honestly, we're talking

746
00:40:16.360 --> 00:40:20.559
<v Speaker 5>about shocks that really just are old and it's gonna

747
00:40:20.599 --> 00:40:23.119
<v Speaker 5>wear tires and stuff, but it's not dangerous. That's a

748
00:40:23.159 --> 00:40:26.079
<v Speaker 5>little bit different. I think we need someone outside of

749
00:40:26.159 --> 00:40:28.760
<v Speaker 5>him and his mother to say this thing's dangerous.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, at least it's something to try, Jake, So I

751
00:40:33.920 --> 00:40:36.199
<v Speaker 4>want you to do that. Call share It in Auto Tech.

752
00:40:36.840 --> 00:40:38.840
<v Speaker 4>He'll do a courtisy check of this and give you

753
00:40:38.920 --> 00:40:41.559
<v Speaker 4>an opinion. He'll give you an opinion on whether it's

754
00:40:41.679 --> 00:40:42.320
<v Speaker 4>unsafe or not.

755
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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, you bring it over to Kevin, have them look

756
00:40:44.840 --> 00:40:47.800
<v Speaker 5>at it, then have them call me and him and

757
00:40:47.880 --> 00:40:50.599
<v Speaker 5>I will talk and then let's let's all get together

758
00:40:50.719 --> 00:40:52.639
<v Speaker 5>in pow Wow and figure.

759
00:40:52.400 --> 00:40:54.320
<v Speaker 2>Out how to go forward. But it's only going to

760
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<v Speaker 2>cost her fifty bucks.

761
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<v Speaker 5>And I think it's a great test because I'll tell

762
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<v Speaker 5>you what if Mercedes bens of day, if there is

763
00:41:01.079 --> 00:41:03.239
<v Speaker 5>a safety issue and they don't want to make it right,

764
00:41:03.480 --> 00:41:06.480
<v Speaker 5>I'll sit here every damn day and make sure people

765
00:41:06.639 --> 00:41:09.880
<v Speaker 5>know that they lost in court when they actually were

766
00:41:09.960 --> 00:41:12.280
<v Speaker 5>trying to fight a bad car they sold.

767
00:41:13.639 --> 00:41:17.360
<v Speaker 2>So, uh, Jake, you know what to do right.

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<v Speaker 4>Number One, get a courtesy inspection from shared An Auto Tech.

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<v Speaker 4>Three oh three, four five five, seventy two, forty two.

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<v Speaker 4>And then I want you to have him talk to

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<v Speaker 4>Mark and tell him we're trying to make a case

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<v Speaker 4>that the car is unsafety drive. Okay, then stay in

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<v Speaker 4>touch with us, yeah, okay. Three oh three seven one

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<v Speaker 4>three talk seven one three eight two five five Kelly,

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<v Speaker 4>make sure I get home the info. By the way,

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<v Speaker 4>renew Home Innovations the most beautiful shower conversions I have

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<v Speaker 4>ever seen. Really now, porcelain, Mark, I think you have

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<v Speaker 4>porcelain in your shower, right, isn't that what I was

779
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<v Speaker 4>oohing aweing about the other day when you showed me

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<v Speaker 4>that shower that.

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<v Speaker 2>Arsteve, I do believe. I don't think, man, I honest

782
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<v Speaker 2>to God, one of them you Mark.

783
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<v Speaker 4>I think Sue said it was porcelain. But here's the deal.

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<v Speaker 4>at renew home innovations dot Com. They use sheet porcelain

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<v Speaker 4>and no maintenance. They do it in two or three days.

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<v Speaker 4>Seventy two months to pay beautiful stuff and great prices.

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<v Speaker 4>home with Remax Alliance three all three nine two zero

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<v Speaker 4>sixteen twenty two. Hi Tom Martino, you're a troubleshooter. I

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<v Speaker 4>got to figure out how to rotate my video source

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<v Speaker 4>YouTube morons. Hey three all three seven on three talks

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<v Speaker 2>Wait a minute, why is that on? I didn't do that?

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<v Speaker 4>Is that you?

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<v Speaker 2>Are you screwing with me? Shannon?

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<v Speaker 4>It's not making us pretty soon Okay, pretty soon, I'm

812
00:43:46.119 --> 00:43:49.360
<v Speaker 4>gonna be like lodging formal complaints. Now here to for

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<v Speaker 4>it's been Oh I've been talking about it, but I'm

814
00:43:53.119 --> 00:43:56.920
<v Speaker 4>gonna be talking formal complaints. And it's gonna be uh

815
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<v Speaker 4>making fun or whatever you're doing in danger during.

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<v Speaker 2>Some a person.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm gonna call myself a person at risk because I'm

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<v Speaker 4>over sixty five. I'm a person at I'm a person

819
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<v Speaker 4>at risk. Uh, Don you wanted to say something, go ahead, don.

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<v Speaker 10>Sorry? Yeah, Hi, Tommy.

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<v Speaker 13>I wanted to give a quick shout out to.

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<v Speaker 10>Euro Plumbing.

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<v Speaker 9>They came in yesterday to one man for me.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, yeah, Mark, euro Plumbing still around, right, don't we

825
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<v Speaker 4>have him on a referral lest he'll probably be back.

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<v Speaker 5>We'll be doing probably spots for him in another couple

827
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<v Speaker 5>of months. Hey, don, how would he charge you?

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<v Speaker 10>They turned you twenty one hundred. But I got a

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<v Speaker 10>I'm got a real old building, so they had to

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<v Speaker 10>do some.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh nice commercially. Wait wait, that's a that that's that's

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<v Speaker 2>not a lot of money at all. Man. Yeah, for

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<v Speaker 2>a commercial, that's a great deal.

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<v Speaker 10>No, it's it's not a commercial, it's a residential.

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<v Speaker 12>But he had to do some extra stuff.

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<v Speaker 5>Okay, they did, so I have two fifty gallons in

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<v Speaker 5>my house time. So when they came out to mind

838
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<v Speaker 5>last year, here's what I did. I did one of

839
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<v Speaker 5>the fifty gallons. I replaced both. I did it a

840
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<v Speaker 5>very high recovery system, so that one costs more than

841
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<v Speaker 5>the average. Then the secondary that I only fire up

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<v Speaker 5>if like we've got a bunch of people over and

843
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<v Speaker 5>staying with us, like for Thanksgiving. I mean, that's about

844
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<v Speaker 5>the only time I fired it up. But because the

845
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<v Speaker 5>house had to, I went ahead and did too. But

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<v Speaker 5>I got both of them, the high recovery and the

847
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<v Speaker 5>other one, all installed for less than four grand. Oh

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<v Speaker 5>my god, that's unbelievable.

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<v Speaker 2>It is unbelievable. WHOA all right now?

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<v Speaker 4>Uh, well, thank you, don We really do appreciate that

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<v Speaker 4>you're a plumbing Colorado dot net. They're a great sponsor. Hey, Mark,

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<v Speaker 4>you have a comment on annuities.

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<v Speaker 2>Go ahead, Mark, Yeah, I just.

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<v Speaker 13>Said a couple of comments. Tom the guy was saying

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<v Speaker 13>that the well person could not lose any of his

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<v Speaker 13>money that he put into this product was guaranteed for life.

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<v Speaker 13>His income was guaranteed for life. He should also add

858
00:46:11.000 --> 00:46:14.280
<v Speaker 13>or perhaps you should also add the guarantee is only

859
00:46:14.360 --> 00:46:18.400
<v Speaker 13>as good as the insurance company or whatever company is

860
00:46:18.519 --> 00:46:23.320
<v Speaker 13>selling the product. For example, several insurance companies have gone

861
00:46:23.400 --> 00:46:27.519
<v Speaker 13>out of business as a mark for fires and mark.

862
00:46:28.199 --> 00:46:30.000
<v Speaker 2>But to be fair, you're right, you're right.

863
00:46:30.480 --> 00:46:35.119
<v Speaker 4>But to be fair, I looked up I think it

864
00:46:35.239 --> 00:46:36.960
<v Speaker 4>was a couple of weeks ago when this came up.

865
00:46:37.000 --> 00:46:38.840
<v Speaker 2>This came up before, and.

866
00:46:39.320 --> 00:46:47.599
<v Speaker 4>The number of failures on actual annuities we're next to

867
00:46:47.800 --> 00:46:51.400
<v Speaker 4>nothing like two or three in the last one hundred years.

868
00:46:54.199 --> 00:46:58.400
<v Speaker 13>Oh boy, oh boy. I've seen quite different research.

869
00:46:58.880 --> 00:47:01.679
<v Speaker 2>But in any event, Okay, I'm going to actually show

870
00:47:01.679 --> 00:47:02.239
<v Speaker 2>you the research.

871
00:47:02.320 --> 00:47:05.280
<v Speaker 4>I'm going to show you. I'm going to show you.

872
00:47:06.320 --> 00:47:08.719
<v Speaker 4>I'm going to look it up. I have it, and

873
00:47:09.360 --> 00:47:13.519
<v Speaker 4>I think listen, I'm not telling you you're you're wrong.

874
00:47:14.119 --> 00:47:18.000
<v Speaker 4>You're right when you say the guarantee is based on

875
00:47:19.280 --> 00:47:19.880
<v Speaker 4>the company.

876
00:47:20.039 --> 00:47:20.800
<v Speaker 2>Oh my gosh, the.

877
00:47:20.840 --> 00:47:26.599
<v Speaker 5>American dollars based on our army. So everything's based on something.

878
00:47:26.840 --> 00:47:29.440
<v Speaker 5>To me, that's just a redimi mark. You can say

879
00:47:29.480 --> 00:47:33.480
<v Speaker 5>that about any damn thing in the world. Mark, if

880
00:47:33.519 --> 00:47:36.360
<v Speaker 5>I can finish. I was saying corporate bonds that are

881
00:47:36.440 --> 00:47:41.519
<v Speaker 5>called guaranteed corporate bonds and municipal bonds are also contingent

882
00:47:41.920 --> 00:47:47.679
<v Speaker 5>on the underlighting underwriting underwriter. There are no you know,

883
00:47:47.920 --> 00:47:51.719
<v Speaker 5>insurance or fdi C or anything like that. So he's

884
00:47:52.000 --> 00:47:55.920
<v Speaker 5>right in that respect. And and maybe people.

885
00:47:55.760 --> 00:48:00.559
<v Speaker 4>Don't like when you say one guaranteed because technic it's not.

886
00:48:01.239 --> 00:48:05.320
<v Speaker 4>I mean it's there is a possibility an insurance company

887
00:48:05.440 --> 00:48:09.880
<v Speaker 4>can falter. And now remember all of these that he

888
00:48:10.079 --> 00:48:12.320
<v Speaker 4>is dealing with, I know are one hundred years or older.

889
00:48:12.800 --> 00:48:18.320
<v Speaker 4>And I'm not arguing with you that technically you're incorrect.

890
00:48:18.360 --> 00:48:20.840
<v Speaker 4>You're not, but I don't think you have the number

891
00:48:20.880 --> 00:48:24.360
<v Speaker 4>of failures properly. How many do you feel how many

892
00:48:24.440 --> 00:48:26.960
<v Speaker 4>people or how many do you feel that actually had

893
00:48:27.000 --> 00:48:29.199
<v Speaker 4>annuities that lost all of their money?

894
00:48:31.559 --> 00:48:34.119
<v Speaker 13>Let's see, Tom, I'm not in my office right now,

895
00:48:34.239 --> 00:48:36.880
<v Speaker 13>so I can't give you the results of that research.

896
00:48:37.000 --> 00:48:39.079
<v Speaker 13>But let me just tell you that if I was

897
00:48:39.159 --> 00:48:42.199
<v Speaker 13>an older hope and I put all my money into

898
00:48:42.280 --> 00:48:47.400
<v Speaker 13>this product being guaranteed that it would be never lose

899
00:48:47.800 --> 00:48:51.719
<v Speaker 13>a penny and be income for me for life, it

900
00:48:51.880 --> 00:48:57.039
<v Speaker 13>only takes one failure to hurt my retirement.

901
00:48:57.519 --> 00:49:02.239
<v Speaker 2>So I'm just called to first of all, Tom, you

902
00:49:02.360 --> 00:49:04.280
<v Speaker 2>know more about this than I know First of all,

903
00:49:04.320 --> 00:49:06.719
<v Speaker 2>I know listen, Mark, let me just say something here.

904
00:49:06.719 --> 00:49:09.480
<v Speaker 2>I think I recognize Mark. I know Mark very well. Mark.

905
00:49:10.039 --> 00:49:10.679
<v Speaker 2>Mark gave me.

906
00:49:11.760 --> 00:49:14.519
<v Speaker 4>Mark is a very wealthy man, and he has given

907
00:49:14.639 --> 00:49:20.480
<v Speaker 4>me advice over the years that I cannot deny, absolutely

908
00:49:20.800 --> 00:49:24.679
<v Speaker 4>positively cannot deny. In fact, when I talked to him

909
00:49:24.679 --> 00:49:29.800
<v Speaker 4>about my fund many years ago, he said, Tom, what

910
00:49:30.000 --> 00:49:31.639
<v Speaker 4>you need is a company around it.

911
00:49:32.159 --> 00:49:32.280
<v Speaker 13>Now.

912
00:49:32.559 --> 00:49:34.960
<v Speaker 4>Funds are okay, but you really need a company when

913
00:49:35.039 --> 00:49:38.800
<v Speaker 4>and that's when I started formalizing Waveight Wealth Management.

914
00:49:39.199 --> 00:49:41.440
<v Speaker 2>It was him. It was him, And he knows this

915
00:49:41.559 --> 00:49:42.920
<v Speaker 2>because I wrote to him and thanked him.

916
00:49:43.480 --> 00:49:47.400
<v Speaker 4>And he says, you need an officer of a compliance officer,

917
00:49:47.480 --> 00:49:49.719
<v Speaker 4>you need a president, you need a real organization.

918
00:49:50.320 --> 00:49:53.400
<v Speaker 2>What you have is good, but what people want is

919
00:49:54.239 --> 00:49:55.400
<v Speaker 2>a company they can deal with.

920
00:49:55.880 --> 00:49:59.079
<v Speaker 4>And they want to know who's you know, the custodians

921
00:49:59.119 --> 00:50:01.400
<v Speaker 4>of the money, and they want to know the strategies

922
00:50:01.480 --> 00:50:04.159
<v Speaker 4>and a real company. So I can call and say, hey,

923
00:50:04.239 --> 00:50:06.800
<v Speaker 4>can I speak to your CEO? Or can I speak

924
00:50:06.800 --> 00:50:11.639
<v Speaker 4>to your investment officer? And but Mark, knowing, I just

925
00:50:11.719 --> 00:50:15.599
<v Speaker 4>recognize your voice. Mark, I don't really think though a

926
00:50:15.639 --> 00:50:15.920
<v Speaker 4>lot of.

927
00:50:15.960 --> 00:50:19.239
<v Speaker 2>Them have failed on the fixed indextinuity side.

928
00:50:19.320 --> 00:50:23.360
<v Speaker 5>I'm pretty sure the state at least Colorado also backs

929
00:50:23.400 --> 00:50:27.719
<v Speaker 5>those accounts for you know, somewhere around five hundred thousand,

930
00:50:28.440 --> 00:50:29.679
<v Speaker 5>similar to FDIC.

931
00:50:29.920 --> 00:50:31.119
<v Speaker 6>But it's not nice.

932
00:50:31.360 --> 00:50:35.920
<v Speaker 2>No, no, no, they're there's a state guaranteur of insurance companies.

933
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<v Speaker 13>Go out, May I speak them on? Please?

934
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<v Speaker 2>Yes, go ahead, sir?

935
00:50:42.599 --> 00:50:42.880
<v Speaker 4>Okay.

936
00:50:43.079 --> 00:50:46.559
<v Speaker 13>Number one, all I wanted to do was to have

937
00:50:46.880 --> 00:50:51.039
<v Speaker 13>you or the person selling the products say that it

938
00:50:51.199 --> 00:50:56.039
<v Speaker 13>is not and could never be one hundred percent guaranteed.

939
00:50:56.800 --> 00:50:59.679
<v Speaker 13>And you've done that and you've confirmed that, and that's.

940
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<v Speaker 2>All I want.

941
00:51:00.039 --> 00:51:04.400
<v Speaker 13>On a number two, the state does not guarantee the annuities.

942
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<v Speaker 4>Okay, now, mark one thing, one thing real quick, thank you.

943
00:51:11.119 --> 00:51:14.639
<v Speaker 4>Hold on, they're not federally insured. There is something called

944
00:51:14.800 --> 00:51:22.360
<v Speaker 4>listen carefully. The state guarantee association. Each state ensures these

945
00:51:22.519 --> 00:51:30.599
<v Speaker 4>funds to cover policy holders. However, coverage limits range from

946
00:51:30.719 --> 00:51:37.000
<v Speaker 4>two hundred and fifty thousand to five hundred max historical failures.

947
00:51:37.599 --> 00:51:44.400
<v Speaker 4>While some insurance companies offering annuities have failed, most policy

948
00:51:44.480 --> 00:51:49.480
<v Speaker 4>holders were not left completely empty handed. The state guarantee

949
00:51:49.480 --> 00:51:55.360
<v Speaker 4>associations have typically ensured that annuity contract holders continue to

950
00:51:55.519 --> 00:52:00.480
<v Speaker 4>receive benefits up to the coverage limits. Now, not the

951
00:52:00.559 --> 00:52:03.039
<v Speaker 4>coverage they bought, but the coverage limits of the state.

952
00:52:03.719 --> 00:52:10.280
<v Speaker 4>In some cases, larger insurance companies actually acquired failing companies

953
00:52:10.519 --> 00:52:15.280
<v Speaker 4>policies and minimized any disruption whatsoever.

954
00:52:16.079 --> 00:52:17.280
<v Speaker 2>Well, how's that possible?

955
00:52:17.440 --> 00:52:17.679
<v Speaker 11>Mark?

956
00:52:18.000 --> 00:52:21.039
<v Speaker 5>Mark just told us all in his infinite wisdom that

957
00:52:21.280 --> 00:52:25.239
<v Speaker 5>they don't do that. So I'm confused, Tom, Mark Mark.

958
00:52:25.559 --> 00:52:26.760
<v Speaker 2>What he said was, what.

959
00:52:28.400 --> 00:52:31.679
<v Speaker 13>Is the infinite wisdom comment? That's a little distress.

960
00:52:31.840 --> 00:52:33.760
<v Speaker 2>I don't understand Mark, Mark.

961
00:52:34.280 --> 00:52:34.519
<v Speaker 17>Mark.

962
00:52:34.599 --> 00:52:37.559
<v Speaker 2>I will tell you. He just came out. I will

963
00:52:37.599 --> 00:52:39.480
<v Speaker 2>tell you this. Listen, just and hang on a bit.

964
00:52:39.840 --> 00:52:45.000
<v Speaker 4>Just okay, Mark, you have no idea who you're talking to.

965
00:52:45.079 --> 00:52:48.360
<v Speaker 4>You just came out and said the States Mark not

966
00:52:48.679 --> 00:52:51.639
<v Speaker 4>guarant anything. That's exactly what he said.

967
00:52:51.719 --> 00:52:51.960
<v Speaker 8>Mark.

968
00:52:52.280 --> 00:52:55.679
<v Speaker 4>He doesn't have infinite wisdom, but he can buy and

969
00:52:55.840 --> 00:52:57.000
<v Speaker 4>sell you six thousand.

970
00:52:57.440 --> 00:53:00.320
<v Speaker 2>He can have money. Wrong on that, Tom, He was

971
00:53:00.400 --> 00:53:04.679
<v Speaker 2>wrong on Mark, and he said it. Mark, If you

972
00:53:04.840 --> 00:53:07.039
<v Speaker 2>shut up for a second, I can explain to you

973
00:53:07.159 --> 00:53:09.079
<v Speaker 2>where he was not really wrong.

974
00:53:09.320 --> 00:53:13.840
<v Speaker 4>Okay, he said, it's not Are you telling me that

975
00:53:14.079 --> 00:53:16.280
<v Speaker 4>that they're one hundred percent guaranteed, because they're not.

976
00:53:16.760 --> 00:53:19.800
<v Speaker 5>I said somewhere between one hundred thousand and maybe five

977
00:53:19.880 --> 00:53:24.920
<v Speaker 5>hundred thousand is the exact numbers I gave. Okay, depending

978
00:53:25.079 --> 00:53:29.039
<v Speaker 5>on the state, and depending on the number of participants,

979
00:53:29.559 --> 00:53:32.320
<v Speaker 5>they can get one hundred to five hundred depending on

980
00:53:32.400 --> 00:53:36.000
<v Speaker 5>the state. Now here's the other thing, though, there are

981
00:53:36.320 --> 00:53:41.000
<v Speaker 5>better examples where other companies come in and buy policies

982
00:53:41.800 --> 00:53:45.119
<v Speaker 5>of the failing companies and make them good and they're

983
00:53:45.320 --> 00:53:50.519
<v Speaker 5>But the state guarantee associations are a piss poor excuse

984
00:53:50.639 --> 00:53:54.840
<v Speaker 5>for guarantees because they're they're you know, just like FDICE is.

985
00:53:55.119 --> 00:53:56.400
<v Speaker 2>Unless you have very.

986
00:53:56.320 --> 00:53:58.960
<v Speaker 4>Small annuities, then you would be fine. You would be

987
00:53:59.000 --> 00:54:03.239
<v Speaker 4>absolutely fine. Now, Executive Life Insurance Company in nineteen ninety

988
00:54:03.280 --> 00:54:06.960
<v Speaker 4>one failed and it was one of the biggest failures

989
00:54:07.119 --> 00:54:11.199
<v Speaker 4>of annuity holders, and through the state guarantee associations and

990
00:54:11.360 --> 00:54:18.960
<v Speaker 4>restructuring efforts, some some not all, received funds, others were

991
00:54:19.039 --> 00:54:24.079
<v Speaker 4>left high and dry. Nineteen ninety one, Confederation Life nineteen

992
00:54:24.199 --> 00:54:29.880
<v Speaker 4>ninety four US policy holders received protection from state guarantee

993
00:54:29.960 --> 00:54:35.679
<v Speaker 4>funds enough to cover everyone. Pen Treaty Network America twenty

994
00:54:35.920 --> 00:54:40.280
<v Speaker 4>seventeen focused on long term care insurance along with some annuities,

995
00:54:40.679 --> 00:54:43.199
<v Speaker 4>and it said it's an example of how the state

996
00:54:43.320 --> 00:54:45.599
<v Speaker 4>regulator stepped in to protect these.

997
00:54:45.559 --> 00:54:49.159
<v Speaker 2>Policy holders for the long term care part of it.

998
00:54:49.960 --> 00:54:54.199
<v Speaker 4>The bottom line is, according to this research, no major

999
00:54:54.480 --> 00:55:00.719
<v Speaker 4>instances exist where fixed indexed annuity holders lost everything. Okay,

1000
00:55:01.239 --> 00:55:05.199
<v Speaker 4>State guarantee associations provide a bit of a safety net

1001
00:55:05.679 --> 00:55:11.039
<v Speaker 4>for smaller annuities due diligence. Before purchasing any annuity, check

1002
00:55:11.119 --> 00:55:15.400
<v Speaker 4>the financial strength of the insurance company through am Best

1003
00:55:15.760 --> 00:55:19.159
<v Speaker 4>Moodies or Standard and Poors. So that's basically it. But

1004
00:55:19.280 --> 00:55:22.440
<v Speaker 4>I think what he was trying to stress is it's

1005
00:55:22.519 --> 00:55:25.159
<v Speaker 4>not one hundred percent guaranteed. And I hear that used

1006
00:55:25.199 --> 00:55:29.480
<v Speaker 4>all the time. It's just not Now. Granted, the instances

1007
00:55:29.599 --> 00:55:32.119
<v Speaker 4>of loss are pretty small.

1008
00:55:32.280 --> 00:55:33.159
<v Speaker 2>They're pretty small.

1009
00:55:33.840 --> 00:55:36.280
<v Speaker 4>Three oh three seven one three talks seven one three

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1011
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<v Speaker 4>best roofer Excel roofing dot com. You don't pay a

1012
00:55:46.920 --> 00:55:53.360
<v Speaker 4>cent until you're content. Time for an insurance checkup free,

1013
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<v Speaker 4>no obligation. In comparison, call compass insurance paying too much

1014
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<v Speaker 4>your coverage at dozens of insurance companies find out now

1015
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<v Speaker 4>three oh three seven seven to one help. You'll think

1016
00:56:02.920 --> 00:56:05.440
<v Speaker 4>you're his only customer when you choose Frank durand the

1017
00:56:05.519 --> 00:56:08.119
<v Speaker 4>real estate man dot com to list your home with

1018
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<v Speaker 4>Remax Alliance three oh three nine two zero sixteen twenty two.

1019
00:56:16.440 --> 00:56:20.719
<v Speaker 2>Hi Tom Martino here three oh three seven one three talk.

1020
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<v Speaker 2>Oh my goodness, three oh three seven on three eight

1021
00:56:24.519 --> 00:56:27.239
<v Speaker 2>two five five. Sometimes I think I should quit the

1022
00:56:27.320 --> 00:56:30.840
<v Speaker 2>technology business. Here trying to never mind us. You don't anyway.

1023
00:56:31.079 --> 00:56:33.920
<v Speaker 2>So by the way, Brian Burns is with us with

1024
00:56:34.000 --> 00:56:36.639
<v Speaker 2>his son Riley. And by the way, Riley must look

1025
00:56:36.840 --> 00:56:38.159
<v Speaker 2>like mom. That's all I have to say.

1026
00:56:38.559 --> 00:56:41.239
<v Speaker 4>Compass Insurance Group three oh three nine ninety six nine thousand,

1027
00:56:41.320 --> 00:56:42.480
<v Speaker 4>get your insurance check up.

1028
00:56:43.000 --> 00:56:48.199
<v Speaker 2>And what we're gonna do is compare some of the prices.

1029
00:56:48.440 --> 00:56:50.519
<v Speaker 4>People call in and say, here's my dext page, Here's

1030
00:56:50.559 --> 00:56:52.559
<v Speaker 4>what I'm paying, this is what I'm insured for.

1031
00:56:53.079 --> 00:56:53.559
<v Speaker 9>You know what?

1032
00:56:53.800 --> 00:56:55.440
<v Speaker 2>What's the market looking like? Anyway?

1033
00:56:55.519 --> 00:56:55.760
<v Speaker 14>Paul?

1034
00:56:56.360 --> 00:56:58.159
<v Speaker 2>Uh, your turn? What's going on? Paul?

1035
00:57:01.000 --> 00:57:01.519
<v Speaker 10>Yeah? Tom?

1036
00:57:03.480 --> 00:57:06.840
<v Speaker 2>What's happening the way?

1037
00:57:07.400 --> 00:57:07.599
<v Speaker 8>Yeah?

1038
00:57:07.800 --> 00:57:12.400
<v Speaker 10>Tom, Paul.

1039
00:57:12.440 --> 00:57:15.000
<v Speaker 4>If you're listening to the radio, you're gonna take about

1040
00:57:15.039 --> 00:57:16.519
<v Speaker 4>ten seconds to hear yourself.

1041
00:57:16.719 --> 00:57:20.199
<v Speaker 2>I'd rather you just talk to me ahead, Yeah, yeah,

1042
00:57:20.199 --> 00:57:20.480
<v Speaker 2>all right.

1043
00:57:21.239 --> 00:57:24.559
<v Speaker 12>A friend of mine, a brother, sixty year old brother

1044
00:57:25.320 --> 00:57:26.360
<v Speaker 12>died unexpectedly.

1045
00:57:27.639 --> 00:57:28.440
<v Speaker 2>He lived alone.

1046
00:57:28.480 --> 00:57:31.719
<v Speaker 12>I don't think he's ever married. She's trying to put

1047
00:57:31.760 --> 00:57:36.159
<v Speaker 12>the state together, and of course part of that is

1048
00:57:36.920 --> 00:57:39.960
<v Speaker 12>looking at the laptop and his soll phone, but it

1049
00:57:40.039 --> 00:57:43.519
<v Speaker 12>sho doesn't have passwords. I suggest that you go to

1050
00:57:43.599 --> 00:57:46.599
<v Speaker 12>the Apple store, show them the death of It, explain

1051
00:57:46.679 --> 00:57:50.920
<v Speaker 12>the situation. But there tole Vision Dum, it couldn't help her.

1052
00:57:51.519 --> 00:57:55.239
<v Speaker 4>So I'm looking for others, right, I don't know, Actually

1053
00:57:55.400 --> 00:57:58.519
<v Speaker 4>I actually don't know. I'm wondering if our geek knows

1054
00:57:58.639 --> 00:58:01.599
<v Speaker 4>ey Ted who listens now? And then I I don't

1055
00:58:01.679 --> 00:58:04.840
<v Speaker 4>know what you do because even even the FBI could.

1056
00:58:04.679 --> 00:58:07.760
<v Speaker 5>Not or was it Homeland Security mark, they couldn't get well.

1057
00:58:07.800 --> 00:58:10.920
<v Speaker 5>I think you can get a court order now. And

1058
00:58:11.039 --> 00:58:13.119
<v Speaker 5>I don't know if that's something Bradley O'Brien or not.

1059
00:58:13.239 --> 00:58:17.440
<v Speaker 5>Bradley O'Brien, Oh jeez, who's our I can't even think

1060
00:58:17.480 --> 00:58:20.960
<v Speaker 5>of his name now are a state attorney? But anyhow,

1061
00:58:20.960 --> 00:58:27.320
<v Speaker 5>I bet it's something got it. I cannot be. I

1062
00:58:27.440 --> 00:58:30.159
<v Speaker 5>bet Dan's dealt with it. But I'm pretty sure you

1063
00:58:30.360 --> 00:58:33.360
<v Speaker 5>can get a court order now if the person's passed away,

1064
00:58:33.400 --> 00:58:35.760
<v Speaker 5>and you can prove the property and then I guess

1065
00:58:35.880 --> 00:58:36.960
<v Speaker 5>Apple might open it.

1066
00:58:37.039 --> 00:58:40.000
<v Speaker 2>I'm not sure. Is it Let me ask you this, Paul.

1067
00:58:40.239 --> 00:58:41.920
<v Speaker 2>Is it an Apple? Is it a cell phone?

1068
00:58:43.800 --> 00:58:43.960
<v Speaker 14>Yeah?

1069
00:58:43.960 --> 00:58:44.760
<v Speaker 12>It's an iPhone?

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<v Speaker 9>And as far as I'm okay, I just know that

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<v Speaker 9>both Apple products.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, man, Okay, I think you can.

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<v Speaker 5>Let's ask that there might be a legacy contact too.

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<v Speaker 5>I think with an eye account, Well, you got an iPhone,

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<v Speaker 5>can't you set up a legacy person like your wife

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<v Speaker 5>or kids to where they'll get access or.

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<v Speaker 2>Easier than that, just have a drop dead list.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, but I think actually, when you get an iPhone,

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<v Speaker 5>I thought there is like a legacy account.

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<v Speaker 2>Actually I didn't know that, Mark, I mean, I have

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<v Speaker 2>to look.

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<v Speaker 5>But now, no, I'm saying, you guys don't know. Maybe

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<v Speaker 5>he did do one. I don't know the answer.

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<v Speaker 2>You guys want me to call Dan McKenzie and ask him. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>let's do that. Kick on all right?

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<v Speaker 16>Maybe come on, okay, I'll say, I'll ask Kelly to

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<v Speaker 16>give him a call.

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<v Speaker 2>Has he this sounds a little strange, but has he

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<v Speaker 2>been buried?

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<v Speaker 6>No?

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<v Speaker 5>I wonder face recognition and I'm not kidding. Yeah, fingerprint,

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<v Speaker 5>fingerprint or fingerprint? I mean, I don't know how that

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<v Speaker 5>works after someone passes.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I know in the spy movies when they kill

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<v Speaker 2>someone they take their finger and open their phone and

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<v Speaker 2>they just carry the finger around I know, or the eyeball.

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<v Speaker 2>That's even better. Now here's the deal. I think that

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<v Speaker 2>we might get Dan McKenzie to weigh in on this.

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<v Speaker 2>Then if I Ted is listening, uh, give us a call.

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<v Speaker 4>Three O three seven to one three talk seven one

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<v Speaker 4>three two five five Paul Dmitri, No, no, why don't

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<v Speaker 4>just well, let's do this kitchena If Dan McKenzie's around

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<v Speaker 4>right now, we'll keep Paul on.

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<v Speaker 2>If not, we'll call him back.

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<v Speaker 10>I got it.

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<v Speaker 4>Three O three seven one three two five five. Christy,

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<v Speaker 4>you want to know about breaking a lease? Go ahead, Christy.

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<v Speaker 18>Yes, my son is closing on a first house at

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<v Speaker 18>the beginning of March and his he wants to move

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<v Speaker 18>out at the end of March, but his.

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<v Speaker 17>Lease goes through July.

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<v Speaker 18>The least break see is two months rent, so at

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<v Speaker 18>a minimum, he's liable for that, But the company is

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<v Speaker 18>saying if they don't re rent the place, he's also

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<v Speaker 18>liable for April, May, June, and July.

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<v Speaker 4>So my question is, well, listen, let me just tell

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<v Speaker 4>you in a nutshell, he's obligated for whatever he can

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<v Speaker 4>tractually signed up to do, and then they have to

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<v Speaker 4>make a good faith effort to what's called mitigate losses.

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<v Speaker 4>Then the difference is what he would hold on And

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<v Speaker 4>I'll discuss more of it right after this hold on,

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<v Speaker 4>go with a sure thing Denver's Best roofer Excel Roofing

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<v Speaker 4>dot com.

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<v Speaker 2>You don't pay a cent until you're content.

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<v Speaker 4>Time for an insurance check up free no obligation comparison

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01:01:56.719 --> 01:02:00.840
<v Speaker 4>call Compass Insurance paying too much your coverage of insurance

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<v Speaker 4>companies find out now three all three seven seven to one.

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<v Speaker 2>Help.

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<v Speaker 4>You'll think you're his only customer when you choose Frank

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<v Speaker 4>durand the real estate Man dot com to list your

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<v Speaker 4>home with Remax Alliance three all three nine two zero

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<v Speaker 4>sixteen twenty two. Hi Tom Martino, your troubleshooter three O

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<v Speaker 4>three seven one three talk three oh three seven one

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<v Speaker 4>three eight two five five.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's go to the phones and we have this.

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<v Speaker 4>Uh, let's see Christy whose son needs to break a lease?

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<v Speaker 2>Now?

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<v Speaker 4>Oh, good, Dan McKenzie, Well, oh we have Dan McKenzie

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<v Speaker 4>for the other thing. Let me go to Dan Real quick, Dan,

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<v Speaker 4>Thank you, Dan McKenzie. Uh So, if you ever had

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01:02:46.519 --> 01:02:50.800
<v Speaker 4>someone come to you that was the representative of an

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<v Speaker 4>estate and they couldn't get into their their either father, mother, brother,

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<v Speaker 4>whoever they're the estate representative for, they couldn't get into

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<v Speaker 4>their iPhone or their iPad.

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<v Speaker 2>Do you have a way of getting the courts to

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01:03:07.280 --> 01:03:09.519
<v Speaker 2>allow that to happen or how do you handle that?

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<v Speaker 19>I mean, it certainly can try into the poenat There

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<v Speaker 19>is now a law that a uniform on I forget

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<v Speaker 19>whether it's probably California would have to adopt it regarding

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<v Speaker 19>whether people can use passwords to access virtual assets, which

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<v Speaker 19>an Apple account is. It really is a pretty, uh

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<v Speaker 19>an increasingly problematic issue because people have a lot of

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<v Speaker 19>stuff that is valuable information on the phone. Obviously, so

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<v Speaker 19>there are every company that's kind of got its own

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<v Speaker 19>policies and procedures. I don't know if yours. Has your

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<v Speaker 19>caller tried anything yet as far as dealing with Apple directly.

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<v Speaker 5>He went to the Apple store with a death certificate

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<v Speaker 5>and the phone and that's it.

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<v Speaker 2>They never petitioned the court or anything like that.

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<v Speaker 19>Dam it probably would be. It would probably involve sending

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<v Speaker 19>I guess we don't. Also don't know do we know

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<v Speaker 19>whether this person actually opened to probate?

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<v Speaker 4>Okay, so Paul, did did the person involve here? Did

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<v Speaker 4>your friend's brother's sister your I've choose you. Yeah, your

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<v Speaker 4>friend's sister did. Did she open probate? Yes, okay she did,

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<v Speaker 4>and she was appointed personal representative and she has a

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<v Speaker 4>death certificate?

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<v Speaker 2>Did she bring all that to the store.

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<v Speaker 10>To growth this certificate? Because you're born for Els, I.

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<v Speaker 19>Am skeptical that the store is going to really be

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<v Speaker 19>the place. I mean, it's probably involves, you know, sending

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<v Speaker 19>the paperwork actually to Apple in Coopertino, California, because a

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<v Speaker 19>lawyer is going to have to look at it and

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<v Speaker 19>verify that it's all correct and up to date. I

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<v Speaker 19>don't think these people at the store are going to

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<v Speaker 19>have that training.

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<v Speaker 5>But the bottom line thing you're going to happen. The

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<v Speaker 5>bottom line Dan, is there is a way to do this. Now,

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<v Speaker 5>for the most part, there is, yes.

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<v Speaker 19>I mean every kind of like every company has its

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<v Speaker 19>own policies and procedures, and they can be a little

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<v Speaker 19>bit difficult at times. That there is, Like I said,

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<v Speaker 19>there is now a law. It's called a uniform law

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<v Speaker 19>where it's like this has been put out. It's kind

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<v Speaker 19>of a law that every state can adopt, and various

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<v Speaker 19>states have adopted it. Just then, Yeah, here's a method

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<v Speaker 19>for getting access to an account like this, and it

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<v Speaker 19>usually would provide it would require providing the letters from

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<v Speaker 19>the court and the death certificate. But you know, we

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<v Speaker 19>got to look up Apple's procedures and do that, and

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<v Speaker 19>so I said, it probably would be requiring sending something

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<v Speaker 19>in the mail to Kupertino.

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<v Speaker 13>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>By the way, Paul, what is the estate worth and all?

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<v Speaker 17>Do you know?

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<v Speaker 10>I know there is a payoff house, probably six hundred thousand.

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<v Speaker 2>It might be worth hiring an attorney to get into that.

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<v Speaker 4>It might be worth getting if he had investments and stuff,

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<v Speaker 4>it might be worth having an attorney help get that

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<v Speaker 4>password unlocked through the proper channels.

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<v Speaker 2>Three O three seven one three talks seven to three

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<v Speaker 2>five five.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, Christy, Now your son wants to leave early to

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<v Speaker 4>go into the house he's closing on. I understand that completely,

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<v Speaker 4>and people do that all the time, but they are

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<v Speaker 4>responsible for the lease. What the landlord must do is

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<v Speaker 4>make a good faith effort to release it out and

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<v Speaker 4>not just sit on it so your son keeps paying.

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<v Speaker 2>So which part is in conflict? Right now?

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<v Speaker 18>I have two questions. One would be how do we

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<v Speaker 18>know if the landlord's doing that? And the other question

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<v Speaker 18>is if they want to charge them a two month

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<v Speaker 18>lease break feet and he ends up being responsible for April, May, June,

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<v Speaker 18>and July, can we just pay them four months or

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<v Speaker 18>do we actually owe them six months?

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<v Speaker 2>Okay? You never owe more.

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<v Speaker 4>You never owe more than the lease, Okay, never, So

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<v Speaker 4>I don't even know what they're talking about.

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<v Speaker 2>If you pay each month, that's what you owe.

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<v Speaker 4>You wouldn't have to pay because you're not really breaking

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<v Speaker 4>the lease, you're just keeping it vacant. So that kind

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<v Speaker 4>of answers itself. If you were going to do it

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<v Speaker 4>that way, you would pay four months rent and then.

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<v Speaker 2>Be done with it. I got more coming up.

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<v Speaker 4>Go with a sure thing Denver's Best Roofer Excel roofing

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<v Speaker 4>dot com. You don't pay a cent until you're content.

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<v Speaker 4>Time for an insurance checkup free no obligation comparison call

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01:07:43.159 --> 01:07:46.440
<v Speaker 4>Compass Insurance paying too much your coverage at dozens of

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<v Speaker 4>insurance companies find out now three O three seven to

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<v Speaker 4>seven to one.

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<v Speaker 2>Help You'll think you're his only customer.

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<v Speaker 4>When you choose Frank durand the real estate man dot

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<v Speaker 4>Com to list your home with Remax Alliance three oh

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<v Speaker 4>three nine two zero sixteen twenty two.

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<v Speaker 1>Rips, you don't have come, Run in just as fast

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<v Speaker 1>as you can.

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<v Speaker 14>Show Shooter's gonna help coming.

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<v Speaker 3>Man, this is the Troubleshooter Show. No, Tom Martino, Welcome,

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<v Speaker 3>Welcome to.

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<v Speaker 5>The only show of its kind. We are here to

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<v Speaker 5>solve problems, answer questions, take complains. You guys, get the idea.

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<v Speaker 5>We're here to educate you make your life's just a

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<v Speaker 5>little bit better. Three zero three Martino, that's a phone number.

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<v Speaker 5>By the way, over three hundred million dollars cash merchant

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<v Speaker 5>ice exchanges refunds.

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<v Speaker 2>Directly due to this show.

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<v Speaker 5>Speaking of issues, Joe's got a problem with a bathroom remodel.

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<v Speaker 2>Hey Joe, what's going on? Man?

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<v Speaker 10>Hey not Tom.

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<v Speaker 14>So we did a master bathroom model and part of

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<v Speaker 14>the remodel was to install a very large shower completely enclosed,

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<v Speaker 14>so that we would have a steamy shower.

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<v Speaker 10>Nice, but not a steam shower.

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<v Speaker 14>Okay. So it's got on all services. It's got either

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<v Speaker 14>glass or tile, including the ceiling. Okay, went into this.

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<v Speaker 14>The work that they did, the contractor did, I think

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<v Speaker 14>is very good. I have no complaints about it. They

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<v Speaker 14>hired a glass company, a subcontractor.

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<v Speaker 12>Who was.

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<v Speaker 14>Who was what?

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<v Speaker 2>Who was the glass company?

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<v Speaker 14>I think their name is Elite Glass.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, keep going.

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<v Speaker 5>There's not many people. There's not many people in the

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<v Speaker 5>state that do shower glass like that. In fact, the

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<v Speaker 5>most of get it out of state and bring it in.

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<v Speaker 5>One of the big ones I take is Columbine Class.

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<v Speaker 2>But keep going.

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<v Speaker 4>Keep yeah.

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<v Speaker 14>I mean it was six weeks to rebuild the bathroom

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<v Speaker 14>and then another six weeks for the glass.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, they come out. They got to measure it, you

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<v Speaker 5>got to have everything else build I understand.

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<v Speaker 14>Yeah, yeah, yeah. So we got the glass installed yesterday.

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<v Speaker 20>During the installation of the glass, at the end of it,

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<v Speaker 20>the installer says to me, now, you know, you can't

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<v Speaker 20>take too steaming of a shower because you don't have

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<v Speaker 20>an escape for the steam.

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<v Speaker 14>And I said what, and he said yeah. In a

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<v Speaker 14>steam shower, they normally have an escape valve or relief

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<v Speaker 14>valve or something to allow the steam to escape. Now

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<v Speaker 14>I don't have a steam shower. I just have an

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<v Speaker 14>enclosed shower.

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<v Speaker 2>I have no idea at all. I have no idea

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<v Speaker 2>what that person's talking about.

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<v Speaker 4>That's not true at all. The steam goes down the drain, exactly,

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<v Speaker 4>steam goes down the drain.

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<v Speaker 2>Our steam shower's got an auto flush on it.

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<v Speaker 5>You don't even have a steam shower, as you said,

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<v Speaker 5>you got a steamy shower that water falls to the

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01:11:14.039 --> 01:11:15.479
<v Speaker 5>ground and goes right out the drain.

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<v Speaker 2>Plus you do have some breathing room.

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<v Speaker 5>If you look at that glass where you open the

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<v Speaker 5>door up, I would assume you've got a little bit

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<v Speaker 5>of daylight, right.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, yes, I do, of course. Yeah, So your your

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<v Speaker 2>shower will drain like a normal shower. What did they

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<v Speaker 2>mean by an escape? What are they talking about event No,

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<v Speaker 2>well they are.

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<v Speaker 14>Talking about if you when you have an actual steam shower,

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<v Speaker 14>you have an inlet for the steam and an exit

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<v Speaker 14>for the steam.

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<v Speaker 4>I guess that's what you No, you don't know, you

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01:11:46.479 --> 01:11:49.920
<v Speaker 4>don't I've had six I've had six steam showers active

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<v Speaker 4>and there's not one of them that had a vent ever.

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<v Speaker 2>And I just I literally just got one put in

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01:11:55.039 --> 01:11:56.079
<v Speaker 2>less than two months ago.

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<v Speaker 14>Okay, Well that's I'm I mean, I didn't know, I mean,

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<v Speaker 14>I'm like, what, that's why I had this? That's I mean, look,

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<v Speaker 14>I paid fifty grand for the damn shower and you can't.

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<v Speaker 2>How the hell do you pay fifty grand for azer?

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<v Speaker 2>It's easy, Tom Mark fifty five zero. No, that was

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01:12:20.039 --> 01:12:21.640
<v Speaker 2>probably with his other bathroom.

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<v Speaker 14>So hello, hello, that's for a little bathroom model, fours cabinets,

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<v Speaker 14>knew everything.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 14>Also, okay, look I have I have ten foot ceilings

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01:12:34.800 --> 01:12:37.479
<v Speaker 14>and I got the biggest shower that they could build.

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01:12:37.560 --> 01:12:40.960
<v Speaker 14>So there's a lot of pile in there plus the

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<v Speaker 14>ceiling places.

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<v Speaker 5>Hey, Joe, why didn't you add a curiosity? You built

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01:12:44.439 --> 01:12:47.159
<v Speaker 5>it up like that? Why not spend another, i don't know,

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01:12:47.319 --> 01:12:49.439
<v Speaker 5>fifteen grand and put in a mister steam.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm just curious.

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<v Speaker 14>Because if I want to go there, I'm going to

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<v Speaker 14>do that in another bathroom. It just wasn't necessary.

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<v Speaker 2>Cool, you wouldn't use it there, I did.

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<v Speaker 10>What's that I said?

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<v Speaker 2>You probably just wouldn't use it there? I get it.

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<v Speaker 14>Yeah, exactly. So look it's a beautiful shower. They did

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01:13:11.479 --> 01:13:14.199
<v Speaker 14>beautiful work. I just was freaked out when the guy says, oh,

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01:13:14.359 --> 01:13:16.000
<v Speaker 14>don't don't put too much steam.

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<v Speaker 10>In here your walls.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, Joe, I'm gonna.

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<v Speaker 14>I'm going to go with you guys. I don't know

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01:13:26.680 --> 01:13:27.399
<v Speaker 14>how it could.

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01:13:27.279 --> 01:13:29.600
<v Speaker 2>Do that, So I'm fine, he's going with Tom and

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01:13:29.680 --> 01:13:35.960
<v Speaker 2>not Tom. Yeah, that's right, Tom and not Tom. Thank you, Joe,

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01:13:37.039 --> 01:13:37.399
<v Speaker 2>all right?

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<v Speaker 4>And you know what they would call in your case

1341
01:13:40.039 --> 01:13:44.359
<v Speaker 4>would be not Joe anyway, not trail three shoe Joe, Yeah,

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01:13:45.560 --> 01:13:48.560
<v Speaker 4>trail three seven on three eight two five five, okay

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01:13:49.720 --> 01:13:52.720
<v Speaker 4>in any case. Brian Burns, Compass Insurance Group. Somebody wants

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01:13:52.720 --> 01:13:56.079
<v Speaker 4>to know about an insurance checkup, and they want to know,

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01:13:57.560 --> 01:14:00.439
<v Speaker 4>is there any percentage at which you decide to switch

1346
01:14:00.479 --> 01:14:01.039
<v Speaker 4>over or not?

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01:14:02.800 --> 01:14:05.920
<v Speaker 6>Well, right now, it seems like almost every rate is

1348
01:14:06.000 --> 01:14:09.520
<v Speaker 6>going up enough to be past, you know, a minimum,

1349
01:14:09.920 --> 01:14:11.760
<v Speaker 6>Like we used to do a minimum if it was

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01:14:11.920 --> 01:14:14.720
<v Speaker 6>if it wasn't going up more than ten percent, then

1351
01:14:14.800 --> 01:14:18.119
<v Speaker 6>we wouldn't automatically shop. We would just we'd call and

1352
01:14:18.239 --> 01:14:20.520
<v Speaker 6>still have a conversation and if they want us to shop,

1353
01:14:20.720 --> 01:14:23.880
<v Speaker 6>we would do it, but it just wouldn't be automatic.

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01:14:24.039 --> 01:14:27.399
<v Speaker 6>But that's so it's so hard to find that now

1355
01:14:27.520 --> 01:14:29.880
<v Speaker 6>that we shop almost every single person that's coming up

1356
01:14:29.880 --> 01:14:32.439
<v Speaker 6>for renewal. That doesn't mean we recommend that everybody move.

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01:14:33.720 --> 01:14:37.600
<v Speaker 6>We look to see and if what they've got is better,

1358
01:14:37.760 --> 01:14:40.439
<v Speaker 6>we'll tell them that. Or a lot of times now

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01:14:41.039 --> 01:14:44.600
<v Speaker 6>when someone's renewals coming up, we start shopping. But the

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01:14:44.760 --> 01:14:46.840
<v Speaker 6>new carriers, you know, if you're trying to write a

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01:14:46.880 --> 01:14:50.880
<v Speaker 6>new policy, they're requiring higher deductibles. Some carriers will go

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01:14:50.960 --> 01:14:54.359
<v Speaker 6>as high as like a two percent minimum win in hail.

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<v Speaker 6>And so if they are grandfathered into the current carrier,

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01:14:58.399 --> 01:15:01.359
<v Speaker 6>let's say they're with a carrier now that's letting them

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01:15:01.399 --> 01:15:04.159
<v Speaker 6>have it with a twenty five hundred dollars wind tail deductible,

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01:15:04.600 --> 01:15:06.800
<v Speaker 6>and the new carrier is going to be the equivalent

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01:15:06.880 --> 01:15:09.920
<v Speaker 6>of a ten thousand deductible. Even if they're saving money,

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01:15:10.000 --> 01:15:12.199
<v Speaker 6>we try to explain that and then let them make

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01:15:12.279 --> 01:15:14.640
<v Speaker 6>that call. Hey, you know, I mean, yes, you're saving

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01:15:15.119 --> 01:15:17.319
<v Speaker 6>you know, eight nine hundred bucks a year, but you're

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<v Speaker 6>also taking on an additional seventy five hundred dollars of

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01:15:20.560 --> 01:15:23.439
<v Speaker 6>risks exactly exactly, So we just try to have the

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<v Speaker 6>conversation with them.

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<v Speaker 2>Brian, We we talk about this a lot.

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<v Speaker 4>But somebody texted me, when does it is it cheaper

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<v Speaker 4>to add your kid? And here's what their reasoning is.

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01:15:38.319 --> 01:15:40.640
<v Speaker 4>If I add my kid to my insurance, I have

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01:15:40.760 --> 01:15:45.199
<v Speaker 4>a high deductible excuse me, a high umbrella, high limits,

1379
01:15:45.279 --> 01:15:49.199
<v Speaker 4>blah blah blah. What if my kid just gets a car,

1380
01:15:49.479 --> 01:15:52.159
<v Speaker 4>a used car, and ensures it under his own name

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01:15:52.239 --> 01:15:55.520
<v Speaker 4>for himself, Is that cheaper than keeping him under the

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01:15:55.600 --> 01:15:56.399
<v Speaker 4>household No?

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<v Speaker 6>I mean I never see it being cheaper to do that,

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01:16:00.119 --> 01:16:02.880
<v Speaker 6>because you're putting it only in the kid's name, So

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<v Speaker 6>then you have a policy just for the kid, and

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01:16:06.199 --> 01:16:09.279
<v Speaker 6>so automatically the rate's going to be substantially higher than

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01:16:09.319 --> 01:16:12.960
<v Speaker 6>if I was using you know, an adult's information, their

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01:16:13.039 --> 01:16:17.359
<v Speaker 6>insurance score, their prior history, you know. So it's going

1389
01:16:17.439 --> 01:16:20.159
<v Speaker 6>to be more expensive to do that. Secondly, you would

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01:16:20.199 --> 01:16:23.000
<v Speaker 6>have to exclude him on all the other cars, So

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<v Speaker 6>then all of a sudden he wouldn't be able to

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01:16:25.479 --> 01:16:27.319
<v Speaker 6>drive any other car in the household. He or she

1393
01:16:27.359 --> 01:16:30.079
<v Speaker 6>wouldn't be able to drive any other cars in the household.

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01:16:30.600 --> 01:16:33.640
<v Speaker 6>And on the flip side, you would be excluding the

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01:16:33.800 --> 01:16:36.520
<v Speaker 6>parents and any other drivers on his policy. It just

1396
01:16:36.680 --> 01:16:38.399
<v Speaker 6>it doesn't make sense to do it that way.

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<v Speaker 4>Okay, So in other words, if you have a household

1398
01:16:45.520 --> 01:16:50.439
<v Speaker 4>policy and you have other cars, the safest, best, and

1399
01:16:50.560 --> 01:16:54.680
<v Speaker 4>it's not going to be expensive, is to just raid

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01:16:54.800 --> 01:16:57.479
<v Speaker 4>him in the home policy or her in the home policy.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, and I don't know if it's not expensive. I

1402
01:16:59.720 --> 01:17:02.760
<v Speaker 6>get it's expensive to add young drivers, but it's it's

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01:17:02.920 --> 01:17:05.800
<v Speaker 6>the best way to do it from both the coverage

1404
01:17:05.840 --> 01:17:09.520
<v Speaker 6>standpoint and the cost standpoint. Now, at some point the

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01:17:09.640 --> 01:17:11.600
<v Speaker 6>kid moves out of the house, it's twenty he or

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01:17:11.640 --> 01:17:13.600
<v Speaker 6>she is twenty one, they own their car. I totally

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01:17:13.680 --> 01:17:16.600
<v Speaker 6>understand splitting them off and then, uh, you know, that's

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01:17:16.640 --> 01:17:18.800
<v Speaker 6>when you want to do that. But while they're members

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01:17:18.840 --> 01:17:21.880
<v Speaker 6>of the household, Uh, you want to go ahead and

1410
01:17:21.960 --> 01:17:24.640
<v Speaker 6>just keep them on your policy. I you know, sometimes

1411
01:17:24.720 --> 01:17:27.800
<v Speaker 6>it happens where a young driver has multiple tickets or

1412
01:17:27.880 --> 01:17:31.039
<v Speaker 6>accidents and you don't have any choice other than to

1413
01:17:31.199 --> 01:17:33.119
<v Speaker 6>exclude them from your policy and have to get a

1414
01:17:33.199 --> 01:17:36.079
<v Speaker 6>separate policy for them. But that's just so expensive to do.

1415
01:17:36.239 --> 01:17:37.039
<v Speaker 6>It's not ideal.

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01:17:38.640 --> 01:17:41.680
<v Speaker 4>Okay, we had more coming up three oh three, seven

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<v Speaker 2>You don't pay a cent until you're content.

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<v Speaker 4>call Compass Insurance paying too much your coverage at dozens

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<v Speaker 4>oh three nine two zero sixteen twenty two. I Tom Martino,

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<v Speaker 4>your troubleshooter three three seven one three talks seven one

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01:19:01.399 --> 01:19:06.279
<v Speaker 4>three eight two five five. We're talking about steam showers

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01:19:06.359 --> 01:19:09.159
<v Speaker 4>and porcelain showers and big showers. Wait till I show

1439
01:19:09.199 --> 01:19:12.880
<v Speaker 4>you this one. Somebody just sent me renew Home Innovations

1440
01:19:12.960 --> 01:19:13.920
<v Speaker 4>something they just did.

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01:19:14.800 --> 01:19:15.640
<v Speaker 2>Oh my god.

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<v Speaker 4>Anyway, he tells me that you can go up to

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01:19:18.760 --> 01:19:21.039
<v Speaker 4>one hundred grand in a shower if you make it

1444
01:19:21.119 --> 01:19:22.319
<v Speaker 4>big enough and bad enough.

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01:19:24.640 --> 01:19:25.479
<v Speaker 2>I mean, think about that.

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<v Speaker 9>Now.

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01:19:25.880 --> 01:19:27.960
<v Speaker 4>I'm not saying that's run of the mill, but it

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01:19:28.119 --> 01:19:31.520
<v Speaker 4>can be that. Brian got another text for you. By

1449
01:19:31.520 --> 01:19:33.560
<v Speaker 4>the way, we're taking calls on any and all topics,

1450
01:19:33.640 --> 01:19:36.039
<v Speaker 4>but if you have any insurance checkups you want to do,

1451
01:19:37.359 --> 01:19:40.319
<v Speaker 4>you can call a Compass insurance directly three oh three

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<v Speaker 4>nine nine six nine thousand, nine nine six nine thousand,

1453
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<v Speaker 4>and we'll get you a comparison.

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<v Speaker 12>Uh.

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<v Speaker 2>Somebody wants to know, if a kid doesn't live with me,

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01:19:50.199 --> 01:19:52.479
<v Speaker 2>can they still be on my household policy?

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01:19:54.159 --> 01:19:54.359
<v Speaker 12>Yeah?

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01:19:55.079 --> 01:19:59.079
<v Speaker 6>So usually it depends on the age. Uh, but if

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01:19:59.079 --> 01:20:01.239
<v Speaker 6>a kid doesn't live with you, especially if they're in college,

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01:20:01.279 --> 01:20:04.840
<v Speaker 6>then it's no problem at all. Policies will usually let

1461
01:20:04.920 --> 01:20:07.159
<v Speaker 6>you keep them on your policy until the age of

1462
01:20:07.239 --> 01:20:10.159
<v Speaker 6>twenty five, where they start running in problems. If they

1463
01:20:10.279 --> 01:20:12.800
<v Speaker 6>truly have moved to another state, they have their own

1464
01:20:12.880 --> 01:20:15.239
<v Speaker 6>license there and that kind of stuff, they really need

1465
01:20:15.319 --> 01:20:17.760
<v Speaker 6>to get insurance in that state, register the car that

1466
01:20:17.840 --> 01:20:21.840
<v Speaker 6>they have there. But so I guess the best answer

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01:20:21.920 --> 01:20:24.399
<v Speaker 6>is it depends on the exact situation, But yes, you

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01:20:24.560 --> 01:20:28.640
<v Speaker 6>can in certain circumstances still ensure your kids on your

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01:20:28.680 --> 01:20:30.319
<v Speaker 6>policy even if they're not in the household.

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<v Speaker 4>Okay, and does still does that work out? I mean

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<v Speaker 4>it's the same, right, They don't rate them differently, do

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01:20:37.800 --> 01:20:38.359
<v Speaker 4>they know?

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<v Speaker 6>And so you know, when we were just talking a

1474
01:20:40.640 --> 01:20:43.800
<v Speaker 6>minute ago, the good thing to do is to find

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01:20:43.920 --> 01:20:48.760
<v Speaker 6>a company that will allow you to assign operators to

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01:20:48.920 --> 01:20:51.720
<v Speaker 6>specific vehicles. And not all companies do that. A lot

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01:20:51.760 --> 01:20:55.159
<v Speaker 6>of them just say that they're all listed. You know,

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01:20:55.239 --> 01:20:58.159
<v Speaker 6>there's not really any kind of assignment to a specific vehicle.

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01:20:58.239 --> 01:21:01.279
<v Speaker 6>They're just all on the policy. Whereas there's other carriers

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01:21:01.439 --> 01:21:05.279
<v Speaker 6>that will allow you to assign a driver to a

1481
01:21:05.359 --> 01:21:07.840
<v Speaker 6>specific vehicle. It does not mean they can't drive the

1482
01:21:07.880 --> 01:21:10.960
<v Speaker 6>other vehicles. They're not excluded from the other vehicles. But

1483
01:21:11.119 --> 01:21:14.199
<v Speaker 6>the rate is derived from the fact that this is

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01:21:14.239 --> 01:21:17.520
<v Speaker 6>the car they're assigned to. That and usually with young drivers,

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01:21:17.560 --> 01:21:20.439
<v Speaker 6>that's a you know, those companies seem to be more

1486
01:21:20.479 --> 01:21:22.840
<v Speaker 6>competitively priced because they do it that way.

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01:21:24.680 --> 01:21:26.319
<v Speaker 2>Oh, I get it, I get it.

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<v Speaker 4>Okay, three oh three seven one three talks seven one

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<v Speaker 4>three eight two five five.

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<v Speaker 2>So if you are looking for comparisons, do we have

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<v Speaker 2>any we can compare right now?

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<v Speaker 6>Brian, I was just looking here I do have one

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01:21:41.920 --> 01:21:44.079
<v Speaker 6>that just showed up here from one of the guys

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01:21:44.479 --> 01:21:47.640
<v Speaker 6>that is working on quotes right now. It looks like

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<v Speaker 6>a customer called up there with All State and it

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<v Speaker 6>looks like we were able to move them or quote

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01:21:56.960 --> 01:22:01.359
<v Speaker 6>them to a company called Travelers, and yeah, the UH

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<v Speaker 6>saved them fourteen hundred dollars a year and increase the

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01:22:05.760 --> 01:22:08.279
<v Speaker 6>liability they were. Oh man, they only had twenty five

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01:22:08.279 --> 01:22:11.399
<v Speaker 6>to fifty liability. So if if they were to get

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01:22:11.439 --> 01:22:13.359
<v Speaker 6>into an accident and it hurts someone the most, their

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01:22:13.439 --> 01:22:15.760
<v Speaker 6>policy was going to pay us twenty five thousand dollars.

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01:22:16.680 --> 01:22:18.960
<v Speaker 6>And it looks like we moved them up to two

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<v Speaker 6>hundred and fifty thousand dollars, so you know, ten times

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01:22:22.159 --> 01:22:24.560
<v Speaker 6>the amount of coverage and saved them fourteen hundred dollars

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<v Speaker 6>a year.

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<v Speaker 2>Holy crap, that's pretty good, don't you think.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, no, that's great. And it looks like they also

1509
01:22:32.439 --> 01:22:34.800
<v Speaker 6>we quoted an umbrella, a one million dollar umbrella. So

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01:22:34.880 --> 01:22:37.680
<v Speaker 6>these people own a home. It's just amazing to me

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01:22:38.319 --> 01:22:42.039
<v Speaker 6>when people call and they have these low liability limits

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01:22:42.039 --> 01:22:44.840
<v Speaker 6>and they have no idea that you know, what it

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01:22:45.000 --> 01:22:46.840
<v Speaker 6>is they have there that if they if they get

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01:22:46.840 --> 01:22:49.159
<v Speaker 6>into an accident. They're you know, they could stand to

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01:22:49.279 --> 01:22:52.520
<v Speaker 6>lose everything because someone it takes nothing to get over

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01:22:52.600 --> 01:22:55.880
<v Speaker 6>twenty five thousand dollars and then they'll come after them individually.

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<v Speaker 6>So it's just it's incredible whenever I see that, because

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01:22:59.000 --> 01:23:01.319
<v Speaker 6>people have been with the company maybe for you know,

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01:23:01.479 --> 01:23:04.399
<v Speaker 6>for a long long time, never have you know, don't

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01:23:04.439 --> 01:23:07.720
<v Speaker 6>have any kind of reviews with their policy. And so

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01:23:07.800 --> 01:23:10.399
<v Speaker 6>they were carrying the same liability limit they carried when

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01:23:10.439 --> 01:23:12.880
<v Speaker 6>they were in college and their net worth was not

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01:23:13.039 --> 01:23:15.720
<v Speaker 6>even close exactly, and now they have a much higher

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01:23:15.800 --> 01:23:19.439
<v Speaker 6>net worth, but they haven't ever increased their liability limit

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01:23:19.560 --> 01:23:20.640
<v Speaker 6>to kind of go along with it.

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<v Speaker 4>All right, thank you now, Jeff, by the way, for

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01:23:26.479 --> 01:23:30.159
<v Speaker 4>the insurance check up or for compass at any time.

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<v Speaker 2>Three h three nine nine six nine thousand, nine nine

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01:23:33.880 --> 01:23:36.760
<v Speaker 2>six nine thousand, Jeff, what's going on with you?

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<v Speaker 14>Man?

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<v Speaker 2>He all, sir, Yes, sir, yes, what's going on?

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<v Speaker 10>I just have a complaint with icon I Care.

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<v Speaker 4>Okay, And by the way, full disclosure, they did a

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01:23:53.239 --> 01:23:56.199
<v Speaker 4>procedure for me, two procedures years ago, and they were

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01:23:56.239 --> 01:23:58.840
<v Speaker 4>a sponsor here they're no longer a sponsor. I mean,

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01:23:58.880 --> 01:24:00.960
<v Speaker 4>I have no reason why they're not. I mean, what

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01:24:01.039 --> 01:24:04.520
<v Speaker 4>I mean is that they did clear lens exchanges for me.

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01:24:05.520 --> 01:24:06.479
<v Speaker 4>What's going on with them?

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01:24:06.720 --> 01:24:09.520
<v Speaker 10>That's exactly why I went to them, just because of

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01:24:09.600 --> 01:24:12.199
<v Speaker 10>your experience that you had. You know, yeah, I heard

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01:24:12.239 --> 01:24:14.520
<v Speaker 10>your story about that. I had the same procedure done

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01:24:15.359 --> 01:24:17.000
<v Speaker 10>the new change.

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01:24:17.880 --> 01:24:21.159
<v Speaker 2>You wanted to go without glasses, right right.

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01:24:21.239 --> 01:24:25.479
<v Speaker 10>Right right. So I went in on the twenty first

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01:24:25.560 --> 01:24:30.359
<v Speaker 10>and had the surgery done twenty first of what I'm sorry,

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01:24:30.720 --> 01:24:34.479
<v Speaker 10>November twenty first of twenty four. I went in and

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01:24:34.560 --> 01:24:37.880
<v Speaker 10>had the procedure done on both eyes, had them both

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01:24:37.960 --> 01:24:42.239
<v Speaker 10>done at the same time, and I paid out of

1549
01:24:42.279 --> 01:24:45.760
<v Speaker 10>pocket because my insurance wouldn't cover it. So I went in,

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01:24:46.199 --> 01:24:49.000
<v Speaker 10>went back, Everything went great, went through all the follow ups.

1551
01:24:50.199 --> 01:24:52.159
<v Speaker 10>I had one little issue. I had a high pressure

1552
01:24:52.199 --> 01:24:54.960
<v Speaker 10>in my right eye, so they put me on some

1553
01:24:55.159 --> 01:25:00.720
<v Speaker 10>drops and we're monitoring the pressure. I went back for

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01:25:00.880 --> 01:25:05.560
<v Speaker 10>my final you know, for the lock in treatment on Disney.

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01:25:05.600 --> 01:25:05.920
<v Speaker 3>What is that?

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01:25:06.359 --> 01:25:07.680
<v Speaker 2>What kind of treatment? Wait?

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01:25:07.760 --> 01:25:09.560
<v Speaker 14>What kind of treatment they where they.

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01:25:09.560 --> 01:25:11.680
<v Speaker 10>Locked the vision in? You know, how they monitor your

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01:25:11.760 --> 01:25:14.520
<v Speaker 10>vision for the first couple of weeks after you get

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01:25:14.560 --> 01:25:15.319
<v Speaker 10>the lenses put in.

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01:25:15.960 --> 01:25:17.840
<v Speaker 2>And what does that mean? Lock it in? No? I

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01:25:17.960 --> 01:25:19.960
<v Speaker 2>never had that done. What does that mean lock it in?

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01:25:20.800 --> 01:25:23.359
<v Speaker 10>Well, it means once you're happy with where your your

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01:25:24.000 --> 01:25:28.319
<v Speaker 10>vision is, they do it. They can laser procedure to

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01:25:28.479 --> 01:25:30.119
<v Speaker 10>lock it in where it is.

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01:25:30.640 --> 01:25:31.920
<v Speaker 2>Oh, I didn't know. I didn't know that.

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01:25:32.239 --> 01:25:35.199
<v Speaker 4>All I did was I did one eye and it

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01:25:35.319 --> 01:25:38.239
<v Speaker 4>healed and then I waited where I can see close

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01:25:38.359 --> 01:25:41.880
<v Speaker 4>and far. It took three months and then it was perfect.

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01:25:42.399 --> 01:25:44.560
<v Speaker 4>Then I went and had the other eye done and

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01:25:44.800 --> 01:25:47.079
<v Speaker 4>it only took a month to come in. But I

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01:25:47.279 --> 01:25:49.319
<v Speaker 4>never went back. I never had any lazy But anyway,

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01:25:49.359 --> 01:25:50.439
<v Speaker 4>go ahead. What happened then?

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01:25:51.159 --> 01:25:54.920
<v Speaker 10>Okay? So I had that all done, and after I

1575
01:25:55.039 --> 01:26:00.520
<v Speaker 10>went back for my final lock in treatment, they wanted

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01:26:00.520 --> 01:26:04.119
<v Speaker 10>to follow up and check my pressure in my right

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01:26:04.199 --> 01:26:09.840
<v Speaker 10>eye and between I had an appointment scheduled on January

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01:26:09.920 --> 01:26:13.520
<v Speaker 10>seventh to twenty twenty five, and the Sunday before that,

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01:26:13.680 --> 01:26:16.960
<v Speaker 10>I kind of developed some floaters and blurry vision in

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01:26:17.039 --> 01:26:17.680
<v Speaker 10>my right eye.

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01:26:19.000 --> 01:26:21.119
<v Speaker 2>So how old are you?

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01:26:22.279 --> 01:26:23.600
<v Speaker 10>I am sixty three.

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01:26:25.000 --> 01:26:26.920
<v Speaker 2>That's pretty calmon the floaters, Yeah, go.

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01:26:26.920 --> 01:26:33.279
<v Speaker 10>Ahead, okay, So I had an appointment. If this started

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01:26:33.319 --> 01:26:35.239
<v Speaker 10>on a Sunday, and I had an appointment on Tuesday,

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01:26:35.279 --> 01:26:36.680
<v Speaker 10>so I just thought i'd just bring it up to

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01:26:36.800 --> 01:26:39.960
<v Speaker 10>him on Tuesday when I go in for the appointment.

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01:26:40.720 --> 01:26:43.279
<v Speaker 10>So I went in and I seen an entotometrist and

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01:26:45.079 --> 01:26:47.319
<v Speaker 10>he looked at it and says, yeah, sometimes you have

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01:26:47.399 --> 01:26:49.720
<v Speaker 10>a gel sack in the back of your eye, that

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01:26:49.880 --> 01:26:52.479
<v Speaker 10>kind of that's right. As we get older, that's right.

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01:26:52.760 --> 01:26:55.680
<v Speaker 4>And in fact, it happens a lot. It happened to

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01:26:55.760 --> 01:26:59.159
<v Speaker 4>me on both eyes, not after the clear legs exchange,

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01:26:59.199 --> 01:27:02.039
<v Speaker 4>but about ten years later, I had what.

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01:27:02.239 --> 01:27:03.800
<v Speaker 2>Was called vitriach to me.

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01:27:03.920 --> 01:27:08.039
<v Speaker 4>They take it out, that gel, and that fluid breaks up,

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01:27:08.439 --> 01:27:11.760
<v Speaker 4>it starts floating, and god does it get scary because

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01:27:11.800 --> 01:27:14.079
<v Speaker 4>when it floats across your field of vision, you're saying,

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01:27:14.119 --> 01:27:15.960
<v Speaker 4>wait a minute, I just went blind in that eye.

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<v Speaker 4>And then it floats away, and then it can be

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01:27:19.560 --> 01:27:22.239
<v Speaker 4>little chunks, big chunks, it can be all kinds of stuff.

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01:27:22.520 --> 01:27:25.520
<v Speaker 4>And then they take all that fluid out and that's

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01:27:25.560 --> 01:27:30.359
<v Speaker 4>a different place that does that. And then I had

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01:27:30.479 --> 01:27:33.800
<v Speaker 4>doctor June Depth do it, and he took out first

1605
01:27:33.840 --> 01:27:35.479
<v Speaker 4>it was the left eye, then it was the right eye,

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01:27:35.560 --> 01:27:38.920
<v Speaker 4>or or vice versa whatever, and I have perfect you know,

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01:27:39.079 --> 01:27:41.880
<v Speaker 4>and that even made my eyes even better because it

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01:27:41.960 --> 01:27:42.520
<v Speaker 4>gets rid of.

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01:27:42.520 --> 01:27:45.079
<v Speaker 2>All that old murky fluid anyway, is that what you

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01:27:45.159 --> 01:27:45.600
<v Speaker 2>had done?

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<v Speaker 10>Well, no, no, she's that's what they told me it was.

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01:27:49.640 --> 01:27:52.119
<v Speaker 10>And she just, you know, it'll probably just go away

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01:27:52.680 --> 01:27:53.319
<v Speaker 10>to come back.

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01:27:53.199 --> 01:27:56.000
<v Speaker 2>And all, No, it doesn't, No, it doesn't.

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<v Speaker 10>No, So that's that's why. So I got worse during

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01:28:01.079 --> 01:28:03.079
<v Speaker 10>that week. So I called in and I went in.

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01:28:03.920 --> 01:28:05.840
<v Speaker 10>Let's see, that was on a Tuesday that I went

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01:28:05.920 --> 01:28:08.479
<v Speaker 10>in and they said that that sack may be breaking apart.

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01:28:09.199 --> 01:28:12.720
<v Speaker 10>And I went in and I seen another optometrist and

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01:28:13.000 --> 01:28:16.199
<v Speaker 10>he looked at my eye and he says it was

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01:28:16.279 --> 01:28:20.000
<v Speaker 10>an I had a you know, it was inflamed. And

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01:28:20.760 --> 01:28:23.680
<v Speaker 10>he told me that I needed to see a retinal specialist.

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01:28:24.600 --> 01:28:28.800
<v Speaker 2>That's exactly right, that's right. But this I don't know why.

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01:28:29.239 --> 01:28:30.920
<v Speaker 2>It has nothing to do with icon.

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01:28:35.319 --> 01:28:36.199
<v Speaker 10>Oh yeah, yeah it does.

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01:28:37.920 --> 01:28:40.239
<v Speaker 2>Well, okay, okay, actually it doesn't.

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01:28:41.000 --> 01:28:41.720
<v Speaker 10>I need to finish.

1628
01:28:41.760 --> 01:28:43.279
<v Speaker 2>They finished finish.

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01:28:43.800 --> 01:28:48.199
<v Speaker 10>So he told me, he said that I had detachment,

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01:28:48.560 --> 01:28:51.359
<v Speaker 10>you know, hemorrhaging and a detachment because what I was

1631
01:28:51.439 --> 01:28:54.800
<v Speaker 10>seeing was blood. It wasn't the floaters were blood being

1632
01:28:55.159 --> 01:28:56.159
<v Speaker 10>out inside my eye.

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01:28:56.439 --> 01:28:59.399
<v Speaker 4>So wait a minute, they did not discover they did

1634
01:28:59.479 --> 01:29:01.760
<v Speaker 4>not cover a detached retina.

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01:29:02.960 --> 01:29:07.520
<v Speaker 10>No, no, he said that they couldn't see because of

1636
01:29:07.600 --> 01:29:10.600
<v Speaker 10>the because it was so swollen and there was so

1637
01:29:10.720 --> 01:29:12.520
<v Speaker 10>much blood in there that they couldn't see.

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01:29:13.199 --> 01:29:15.319
<v Speaker 2>So he said, I need But why didn't they refer you?

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01:29:15.560 --> 01:29:19.079
<v Speaker 2>Why did they not refer you to a specialist?

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01:29:19.840 --> 01:29:21.960
<v Speaker 10>Well, that's where I'm getting to. He said that I

1641
01:29:22.079 --> 01:29:24.279
<v Speaker 10>need to see it. He says, I can't refer you

1642
01:29:24.439 --> 01:29:27.279
<v Speaker 10>to a retina specialist, but here's what you tell him,

1643
01:29:27.279 --> 01:29:30.760
<v Speaker 10>and he gave me this little paragraph. So I've got

1644
01:29:30.840 --> 01:29:35.159
<v Speaker 10>Kaiser insurance. So I called Kay and I told him that, yeah,

1645
01:29:35.479 --> 01:29:37.640
<v Speaker 10>I need to see a retinal specialist. And he says, well,

1646
01:29:37.680 --> 01:29:42.319
<v Speaker 10>you need a referral for a retinal specialist, and well,

1647
01:29:42.399 --> 01:29:45.520
<v Speaker 10>I said, well, here's what the atomis told me. He says,

1648
01:29:45.520 --> 01:29:47.039
<v Speaker 10>I don't care what he told you. I still need

1649
01:29:47.119 --> 01:29:52.239
<v Speaker 10>a referral from him. So so I called back Icon

1650
01:29:52.399 --> 01:29:54.560
<v Speaker 10>and told him, you know, talk. This was on a

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01:29:54.640 --> 01:29:55.439
<v Speaker 10>Friday night.

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01:29:56.119 --> 01:29:58.920
<v Speaker 4>Jeff, Jeff, hold on, hold on, Jeff, I need to

1653
01:29:59.119 --> 01:30:02.199
<v Speaker 4>interject here. When I said, by the way, just let

1654
01:30:02.279 --> 01:30:04.560
<v Speaker 4>me clarify this. When I said it has nothing to

1655
01:30:04.600 --> 01:30:07.319
<v Speaker 4>do with Icon, Here's what I meant. If you're having

1656
01:30:07.880 --> 01:30:12.720
<v Speaker 4>if you had this detachment, because they did something.

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01:30:12.520 --> 01:30:16.119
<v Speaker 2>Wrong when they did their lens. That would be one thing.

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01:30:16.399 --> 01:30:20.199
<v Speaker 2>Normally the lens is not connected to the detachment.

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01:30:20.279 --> 01:30:24.520
<v Speaker 4>But if it did happen, are you saying now they

1660
01:30:24.600 --> 01:30:29.359
<v Speaker 4>are I think responsible for not referring you and not

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01:30:29.680 --> 01:30:31.079
<v Speaker 4>recognizing the problem.

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01:30:31.520 --> 01:30:34.840
<v Speaker 2>But I don't know if they caused the problem or not.

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01:30:35.199 --> 01:30:38.760
<v Speaker 2>Let's let's discuss both of Let's discuss both of those things.

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<v Speaker 4>So Jeff went to Icon to have a clear lens exchange.

1678
01:31:33.840 --> 01:31:37.039
<v Speaker 4>I had that done years ago. He said he developed

1679
01:31:37.079 --> 01:31:40.439
<v Speaker 4>some floaters and blurry vision in his right eye. He

1680
01:31:40.520 --> 01:31:41.560
<v Speaker 4>went in for a checkup.

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01:31:43.600 --> 01:31:46.079
<v Speaker 2>They told him to see a retinal specialist.

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01:31:48.199 --> 01:31:53.079
<v Speaker 4>And he could not get a referral. So I don't

1683
01:31:53.199 --> 01:31:57.359
<v Speaker 4>understand why they wouldn't give you a referral. But also

1684
01:31:58.119 --> 01:32:03.319
<v Speaker 4>I also don't understand why Kaiser requires a referral. I

1685
01:32:03.520 --> 01:32:07.319
<v Speaker 4>went to a retinal specialist directly. This had nothing to

1686
01:32:07.359 --> 01:32:10.359
<v Speaker 4>do with Icon it was. It was years later, but

1687
01:32:10.520 --> 01:32:16.079
<v Speaker 4>I went for this gel. It was bothering me, and

1688
01:32:16.239 --> 01:32:19.960
<v Speaker 4>I simply called whatever I think it was, Colorado or

1689
01:32:19.960 --> 01:32:24.760
<v Speaker 4>wherever doctor June Depth is and got an appointment and

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01:32:25.000 --> 01:32:29.479
<v Speaker 4>he saw me and scheduled surgery. So, Jeff, I don't

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01:32:29.479 --> 01:32:34.880
<v Speaker 4>know how Kaiser works, but certainly they would have had

1692
01:32:34.920 --> 01:32:38.279
<v Speaker 4>a regular eye doctor that would have made you a

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01:32:38.399 --> 01:32:42.359
<v Speaker 4>referral to their in house retinal specialists at Kaiser.

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01:32:43.239 --> 01:32:45.600
<v Speaker 10>Well, the doctor on Friday was telling me that I

1695
01:32:45.720 --> 01:32:49.520
<v Speaker 10>needed to see one before Tuesday, no later than tuesday.

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<v Speaker 2>He told me, yeah, because if you have a retinal detachment,

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01:32:52.279 --> 01:32:53.199
<v Speaker 2>you can go blind.

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01:32:53.600 --> 01:32:57.960
<v Speaker 10>Oh I know, I know. So anyway, they never did.

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01:32:58.279 --> 01:33:01.079
<v Speaker 10>They wouldn't do a referral. I called back Monday, yep, and.

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01:33:01.840 --> 01:33:05.520
<v Speaker 4>At Jeff, I'm asking a very simple question, Jeff, I'm

1701
01:33:05.520 --> 01:33:08.680
<v Speaker 4>trying to I'm asking a very simple question. Why didn't

1702
01:33:08.720 --> 01:33:12.720
<v Speaker 4>you say to Kaiser you're having problems and just get

1703
01:33:12.760 --> 01:33:14.159
<v Speaker 4>in to see an eye doctor.

1704
01:33:14.359 --> 01:33:14.720
<v Speaker 2>Period?

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01:33:15.720 --> 01:33:17.800
<v Speaker 10>Well that's what I finally did on Monday.

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01:33:18.159 --> 01:33:20.760
<v Speaker 2>Okay, okay, I think.

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01:33:20.640 --> 01:33:24.720
<v Speaker 10>That Kaiser optometrists on Monday. They were very good at Kaiser,

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01:33:25.199 --> 01:33:28.319
<v Speaker 10>but I mean, just to neglect from Icon, they even

1709
01:33:28.840 --> 01:33:29.720
<v Speaker 10>kaw tell.

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01:33:29.600 --> 01:33:32.359
<v Speaker 4>Me, hold on, hold on, you used the good word, Jeff,

1711
01:33:32.439 --> 01:33:32.880
<v Speaker 4>you use.

1712
01:33:32.840 --> 01:33:36.479
<v Speaker 2>The word neglect. Tell me how they neglected you. I

1713
01:33:36.600 --> 01:33:37.439
<v Speaker 2>need to know that part.

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01:33:38.239 --> 01:33:41.319
<v Speaker 10>Well, because they because I had to go through. And

1715
01:33:41.920 --> 01:33:44.399
<v Speaker 10>the reason that he gave me this little paragraph to

1716
01:33:44.479 --> 01:33:46.920
<v Speaker 10>tell them at at Kaiser is so I wouldn't have

1717
01:33:47.039 --> 01:33:50.720
<v Speaker 10>to go through seeing an autometrist, having the autometrists look

1718
01:33:50.760 --> 01:33:52.600
<v Speaker 10>at me. He's just trying to save me some time.

1719
01:33:53.079 --> 01:33:56.119
<v Speaker 10>He says, I can't do a referral, which I find out.

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01:33:56.199 --> 01:33:59.960
<v Speaker 2>But why why can't they do a referral? I don't understand.

1721
01:34:00.840 --> 01:34:02.920
<v Speaker 10>Why don you'd have to ask Icon that?

1722
01:34:03.199 --> 01:34:06.119
<v Speaker 5>Well wait, wait, wait, wait, If you're with Kaiser, generally

1723
01:34:06.239 --> 01:34:07.920
<v Speaker 5>that's going to be all in house, Mate.

1724
01:34:08.119 --> 01:34:09.640
<v Speaker 2>I don't know if like they can.

1725
01:34:09.680 --> 01:34:13.760
<v Speaker 5>Refer you to a doctor outside of the network, knowing

1726
01:34:13.800 --> 01:34:14.560
<v Speaker 5>you have Kaiser.

1727
01:34:14.640 --> 01:34:18.039
<v Speaker 2>You know what I'm saying, Mark, that wasn't the case.

1728
01:34:18.119 --> 01:34:19.399
<v Speaker 2>Here's what the case was.

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01:34:19.720 --> 01:34:23.760
<v Speaker 4>Jeff was at Jeff was at Icon and he wanted

1730
01:34:23.840 --> 01:34:29.640
<v Speaker 4>a referral to an optimobelage or retina specialist.

1731
01:34:29.720 --> 01:34:32.119
<v Speaker 2>And it could have been I mean if he got

1732
01:34:32.159 --> 01:34:32.720
<v Speaker 2>a referral to.

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01:34:32.720 --> 01:34:36.560
<v Speaker 4>A retinal specialist within Kaiser. Can an outside doctor make

1734
01:34:36.600 --> 01:34:39.960
<v Speaker 4>a recommendation to an inside Kaiser specialist if you're part

1735
01:34:40.039 --> 01:34:41.199
<v Speaker 4>of Kaiser, Mark.

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01:34:41.920 --> 01:34:46.000
<v Speaker 5>I wouldn't go to anywhere other than what Kaiser tells

1737
01:34:46.039 --> 01:34:47.800
<v Speaker 5>me to go to because I don't think there would

1738
01:34:47.800 --> 01:34:48.640
<v Speaker 5>be any coverage.

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01:34:49.640 --> 01:34:52.319
<v Speaker 2>No, But what I meant is this, Mark, that was

1740
01:34:52.359 --> 01:34:53.000
<v Speaker 2>the whole point.

1741
01:34:53.399 --> 01:34:56.319
<v Speaker 4>He had the clear lens exchange done at Icon because

1742
01:34:56.439 --> 01:34:57.600
<v Speaker 4>Kaiser doesn't.

1743
01:34:57.359 --> 01:34:59.880
<v Speaker 2>Offer it, correct he paid for it out of pocket.

1744
01:35:00.000 --> 01:35:03.399
<v Speaker 4>I understand what we're asking is this, if you ever

1745
01:35:03.560 --> 01:35:06.119
<v Speaker 4>did that where you were with an outside doctor, can

1746
01:35:06.159 --> 01:35:08.600
<v Speaker 4>they refer you and say, Mark, you have to go

1747
01:35:08.760 --> 01:35:12.199
<v Speaker 4>see this specialist. And since you're with Kaiser, would Kaiser

1748
01:35:12.359 --> 01:35:15.600
<v Speaker 4>take a recommendation from an outside doctor, do you know?

1749
01:35:15.880 --> 01:35:18.760
<v Speaker 5>No, I don't know, and I don't I don't think so,

1750
01:35:18.960 --> 01:35:20.880
<v Speaker 5>because they're going to want you a network.

1751
01:35:22.039 --> 01:35:22.840
<v Speaker 2>That's what I thought.

1752
01:35:23.479 --> 01:35:27.279
<v Speaker 4>So I think, Jeff, I think that you would have

1753
01:35:27.319 --> 01:35:29.880
<v Speaker 4>had to go to a Kaiser regular eye doctor.

1754
01:35:30.079 --> 01:35:33.560
<v Speaker 2>Anyway, I'm thinking. But I know the point you're making.

1755
01:35:34.119 --> 01:35:38.239
<v Speaker 9>Yeah, okay, but anyway you're.

1756
01:35:37.840 --> 01:35:43.199
<v Speaker 10>Saying, I went and seen a Kaiser optometrist on Monday

1757
01:35:43.239 --> 01:35:46.079
<v Speaker 10>morning and they were able to get me in with

1758
01:35:46.199 --> 01:35:50.119
<v Speaker 10>the Kaiser retinal specialist that afternoon. So I went in

1759
01:35:50.239 --> 01:35:52.439
<v Speaker 10>and seen the retinal specialist.

1760
01:35:53.840 --> 01:35:55.720
<v Speaker 5>Hey would they say, by the way, did they were

1761
01:35:55.760 --> 01:35:58.000
<v Speaker 5>they able to reattach it or what's the game plan?

1762
01:35:58.479 --> 01:35:58.640
<v Speaker 17>Well?

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01:35:58.720 --> 01:36:01.119
<v Speaker 10>No, no, I've never it was a retinal issue. It

1764
01:36:01.319 --> 01:36:04.439
<v Speaker 10>was inflammation. It was an infection in my eye.

1765
01:36:05.000 --> 01:36:07.119
<v Speaker 4>Oh wow from oh hold on, hold on, hold on

1766
01:36:07.279 --> 01:36:11.279
<v Speaker 4>now now wait a minute. So this infection, this could

1767
01:36:11.439 --> 01:36:13.079
<v Speaker 4>be part of that surgery.

1768
01:36:13.199 --> 01:36:14.119
<v Speaker 2>Is that what they said?

1769
01:36:15.399 --> 01:36:17.800
<v Speaker 10>Yeah, they don't more or less say that, but he

1770
01:36:17.880 --> 01:36:19.800
<v Speaker 10>says that's more unlikely what happened.

1771
01:36:20.399 --> 01:36:21.199
<v Speaker 2>Did they think?

1772
01:36:21.880 --> 01:36:24.520
<v Speaker 4>Are they the ones that told you at icon to

1773
01:36:24.640 --> 01:36:28.720
<v Speaker 4>see a retinal specialist because you could be having a detachment.

1774
01:36:29.720 --> 01:36:32.760
<v Speaker 10>Yes, that's what I was told at icon, Oh.

1775
01:36:32.560 --> 01:36:36.399
<v Speaker 2>Okay, but as it turns out, you have no retinal detachment.

1776
01:36:36.479 --> 01:36:36.960
<v Speaker 2>Is that right?

1777
01:36:37.800 --> 01:36:38.199
<v Speaker 10>Correct?

1778
01:36:39.640 --> 01:36:40.640
<v Speaker 2>That is good news.

1779
01:36:41.000 --> 01:36:45.079
<v Speaker 4>But does the do the Kaiser people say, hey, Jeff,

1780
01:36:45.800 --> 01:36:51.119
<v Speaker 4>you have an infection as a result of what they did, not.

1781
01:36:51.199 --> 01:36:52.840
<v Speaker 10>As a result. He said, that's the only way it

1782
01:36:52.880 --> 01:36:53.600
<v Speaker 10>could have happened.

1783
01:36:54.319 --> 01:36:56.680
<v Speaker 4>Well, sure, what else happened? Nothing else. It's not a

1784
01:36:56.760 --> 01:36:59.399
<v Speaker 4>coincidence that. It's not a coincidence that all of a

1785
01:36:59.439 --> 01:37:03.279
<v Speaker 4>sudden you got an infection. I mean, the only thing

1786
01:37:03.359 --> 01:37:04.960
<v Speaker 4>you had done was what they did.

1787
01:37:06.199 --> 01:37:08.880
<v Speaker 10>So he tells me you got an infection, and he says,

1788
01:37:09.359 --> 01:37:11.239
<v Speaker 10>we got to do surgery. And I says, well, what

1789
01:37:11.319 --> 01:37:13.319
<v Speaker 10>do you want to do this surgery? And he says,

1790
01:37:13.359 --> 01:37:16.800
<v Speaker 10>we have to do it tomorrow afternoon. Yeah, so I

1791
01:37:16.840 --> 01:37:20.520
<v Speaker 10>went So I went in and had surgery tuesday afternoon

1792
01:37:21.119 --> 01:37:23.119
<v Speaker 10>to go in and suck my eye out.

1793
01:37:23.960 --> 01:37:26.479
<v Speaker 4>You know, Wait a minute, wait a minute, wait, whoa, whoa,

1794
01:37:26.800 --> 01:37:31.399
<v Speaker 4>Now now you're confusing me. They they did a vichery

1795
01:37:31.439 --> 01:37:34.079
<v Speaker 4>out of me. They they took out the vitreous fluid

1796
01:37:34.600 --> 01:37:38.439
<v Speaker 4>within your eye. But you just told me, oh, nevermind,

1797
01:37:38.720 --> 01:37:42.359
<v Speaker 4>but that's not an infection. Usually usually that's just I

1798
01:37:42.560 --> 01:37:44.760
<v Speaker 4>don't get why they did that treatment, but I'm not

1799
01:37:44.880 --> 01:37:47.439
<v Speaker 4>a doctor, obviously, What did they say they were doing

1800
01:37:47.479 --> 01:37:49.319
<v Speaker 4>the vitriactomy.

1801
01:37:48.680 --> 01:37:53.359
<v Speaker 10>For could get the infection out? Had they had to

1802
01:37:53.399 --> 01:37:53.960
<v Speaker 10>clean my mouse?

1803
01:37:54.119 --> 01:37:56.720
<v Speaker 4>So the fluid? Was it the fluid that wasn't see?

1804
01:37:56.760 --> 01:37:58.800
<v Speaker 4>I don't know anything. I'm asking Was it.

1805
01:37:58.880 --> 01:37:59.760
<v Speaker 2>The fluid that was it?

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01:38:00.800 --> 01:38:00.960
<v Speaker 13>Yeah?

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01:38:01.039 --> 01:38:03.399
<v Speaker 10>They had to go in and cut my eye open

1808
01:38:03.439 --> 01:38:05.840
<v Speaker 10>again and go back in there. He took like this

1809
01:38:06.000 --> 01:38:07.840
<v Speaker 10>little you know, I was away through the whole thing,

1810
01:38:08.920 --> 01:38:10.359
<v Speaker 10>and so.

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01:38:10.520 --> 01:38:13.479
<v Speaker 2>They had to clean out. Basically, basically they had to

1812
01:38:13.560 --> 01:38:14.279
<v Speaker 2>clean out.

1813
01:38:14.479 --> 01:38:18.680
<v Speaker 4>The vitreous gel and fluid on the inside of your

1814
01:38:18.840 --> 01:38:22.359
<v Speaker 4>eyeball to get rid of the infection.

1815
01:38:23.399 --> 01:38:23.800
<v Speaker 10>Correct.

1816
01:38:24.760 --> 01:38:27.359
<v Speaker 2>Wow, but here's what I need to know. If it

1817
01:38:27.479 --> 01:38:31.079
<v Speaker 2>was on the inside of the eyeball, did they say

1818
01:38:31.199 --> 01:38:33.199
<v Speaker 2>what exactly was infected?

1819
01:38:35.920 --> 01:38:35.960
<v Speaker 8>No?

1820
01:38:38.439 --> 01:38:40.359
<v Speaker 2>May I ask who your surgeon was?

1821
01:38:41.960 --> 01:38:43.000
<v Speaker 10>Where at Kaiser?

1822
01:38:44.239 --> 01:38:44.479
<v Speaker 2>Yeah?

1823
01:38:44.600 --> 01:38:44.640
<v Speaker 4>No?

1824
01:38:47.039 --> 01:38:47.239
<v Speaker 2>Yeah?

1825
01:38:48.560 --> 01:38:50.199
<v Speaker 10>Uh doctor Lee?

1826
01:38:52.960 --> 01:38:56.279
<v Speaker 4>Okay, I want to talk to you more. Hang on,

1827
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<v Speaker 3>Come SX is the Troubleshooter show. No Tom Mark, Hey, I'm.

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<v Speaker 2>Tom Martino, your troubleshooter three zero three seven to one

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<v Speaker 4>Bottom line, let's get right to this and get through it.

1845
01:40:12.680 --> 01:40:14.720
<v Speaker 4>It's a good topic. It's a topic that comes up

1846
01:40:14.720 --> 01:40:21.840
<v Speaker 4>a lot. You have to have substantial damages for it

1847
01:40:22.039 --> 01:40:26.960
<v Speaker 4>to matter. For malpractice, it really is. Malpractice is not

1848
01:40:28.600 --> 01:40:32.880
<v Speaker 4>for anybody that has minor damages. Really, I mean it,

1849
01:40:32.920 --> 01:40:35.600
<v Speaker 4>it's gone to a point where you can suffer a

1850
01:40:35.640 --> 01:40:39.640
<v Speaker 4>lot and not get malpractice. Now that doesn't mean it's

1851
01:40:39.720 --> 01:40:42.920
<v Speaker 4>not important. You might want to report things sometimes, but

1852
01:40:43.439 --> 01:40:44.239
<v Speaker 4>I will tell you this.

1853
01:40:44.479 --> 01:40:45.319
<v Speaker 2>I looked it up.

1854
01:40:46.840 --> 01:40:51.840
<v Speaker 4>And on a disclaimer for almost every surgery, including Clear

1855
01:40:51.960 --> 01:40:57.319
<v Speaker 4>Lens Exchange, there is an exception or a disclaimer for

1856
01:40:57.479 --> 01:41:01.319
<v Speaker 4>infections as a risk. And I will tell you this, Jeff.

1857
01:41:01.920 --> 01:41:04.960
<v Speaker 4>They give very specific instructions. I remember when I had

1858
01:41:05.000 --> 01:41:07.960
<v Speaker 4>my Clear Lens Exchange on how to care for your

1859
01:41:08.039 --> 01:41:13.479
<v Speaker 4>eyes after surgery and the washes and stuff and the

1860
01:41:13.640 --> 01:41:15.359
<v Speaker 4>drops and the antibiotic drops.

1861
01:41:16.000 --> 01:41:18.319
<v Speaker 2>And it is very very.

1862
01:41:18.840 --> 01:41:22.359
<v Speaker 4>Likely to get an infection if you don't take impeccable.

1863
01:41:21.880 --> 01:41:24.079
<v Speaker 2>Care of your eyes. I'm not blaming you.

1864
01:41:24.800 --> 01:41:28.279
<v Speaker 4>I am just saying it's going to be probably next

1865
01:41:28.319 --> 01:41:32.600
<v Speaker 4>two impossible to blame them for the infection. Was it

1866
01:41:32.840 --> 01:41:37.039
<v Speaker 4>as a result of surgery? Absolutely? Probably, I mean I'll

1867
01:41:37.119 --> 01:41:40.199
<v Speaker 4>just say yes. I mean, there's no coincidence, but it

1868
01:41:40.279 --> 01:41:44.000
<v Speaker 4>could be the way your aftercare, because the aftercare is

1869
01:41:44.119 --> 01:41:44.720
<v Speaker 4>entrusted to you.

1870
01:41:45.800 --> 01:41:48.000
<v Speaker 2>But I want to know this. Here's a couple of

1871
01:41:48.039 --> 01:41:51.359
<v Speaker 2>things I want to know, Jeff. What do you want?

1872
01:41:51.680 --> 01:41:53.880
<v Speaker 2>Basically you called what do you want?

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01:41:54.399 --> 01:41:56.840
<v Speaker 10>I'm more or less one of to buyer. Beware of

1874
01:41:57.239 --> 01:41:57.960
<v Speaker 10>icon lays it.

1875
01:42:00.239 --> 01:42:01.359
<v Speaker 2>Do you think that's fair?

1876
01:42:02.560 --> 01:42:02.760
<v Speaker 10>Yes?

1877
01:42:02.840 --> 01:42:03.039
<v Speaker 2>I do.

1878
01:42:04.560 --> 01:42:04.600
<v Speaker 9>No.

1879
01:42:04.720 --> 01:42:07.560
<v Speaker 2>No, hold on, hold on because you because you.

1880
01:42:07.680 --> 01:42:12.000
<v Speaker 4>Got an infection in your eye following surgery that could

1881
01:42:12.079 --> 01:42:14.079
<v Speaker 4>have been due to a lack of care.

1882
01:42:15.600 --> 01:42:19.159
<v Speaker 2>Why do you feel I'm no buyer. Beware should be

1883
01:42:19.239 --> 01:42:21.000
<v Speaker 2>for everyone, by the way, so I don't mind that.

1884
01:42:21.720 --> 01:42:23.720
<v Speaker 2>Tell me what you think they did wrong.

1885
01:42:25.960 --> 01:42:28.960
<v Speaker 10>By not responding to me when I had a problem.

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01:42:29.920 --> 01:42:31.800
<v Speaker 4>Well, okay, that would be bad. What do you mean

1887
01:42:31.880 --> 01:42:34.680
<v Speaker 4>by not responding? What do you mean by not responding?

1888
01:42:34.800 --> 01:42:36.680
<v Speaker 10>I asked for the doctor to call me back when

1889
01:42:36.720 --> 01:42:38.399
<v Speaker 10>I had an issue with my eye. I never did

1890
01:42:38.439 --> 01:42:40.039
<v Speaker 10>get a call back from icon Ikere.

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01:42:41.560 --> 01:42:44.159
<v Speaker 2>Now that, that to me is unacceptable.

1892
01:42:44.239 --> 01:42:47.279
<v Speaker 4>If you have surgery done at a place, those people

1893
01:42:47.359 --> 01:42:49.000
<v Speaker 4>should be very attentive.

1894
01:42:49.079 --> 01:42:52.560
<v Speaker 10>Dollars have your eyes done, you at least, you know,

1895
01:42:52.880 --> 01:42:54.159
<v Speaker 10>get a callback from them.

1896
01:42:55.199 --> 01:42:57.920
<v Speaker 2>It's such they didn't contact you like that. But I

1897
01:42:58.039 --> 01:42:58.880
<v Speaker 2>doubt you have a case.

1898
01:42:59.000 --> 01:43:02.239
<v Speaker 10>Man, I didn't call for that.

1899
01:43:02.760 --> 01:43:04.920
<v Speaker 2>Well, you do have a case for letting people know.

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01:43:05.520 --> 01:43:08.119
<v Speaker 4>I hope you posted appropriate reviews online.

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01:43:09.359 --> 01:43:12.399
<v Speaker 10>Well, what happened is I did get a callback from

1902
01:43:12.439 --> 01:43:15.920
<v Speaker 10>a doctor Severson at age fifteen on a Wednesday evening

1903
01:43:16.600 --> 01:43:19.079
<v Speaker 10>and told him what had happened to me. And you

1904
01:43:19.159 --> 01:43:21.359
<v Speaker 10>know what he said. He says, you could go blind

1905
01:43:21.880 --> 01:43:25.800
<v Speaker 10>you'll probably never see twenty twenty vision again. That was

1906
01:43:25.880 --> 01:43:27.760
<v Speaker 10>his comment when I first talked to him on a

1907
01:43:27.800 --> 01:43:28.560
<v Speaker 10>Wednesday evening.

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01:43:28.760 --> 01:43:31.960
<v Speaker 5>You know, if that's true, you would have major damages.

1909
01:43:32.079 --> 01:43:34.720
<v Speaker 5>I mean, really if you if you could never see

1910
01:43:34.840 --> 01:43:38.439
<v Speaker 5>properly again, you could have a case, Jeff.

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<v Speaker 10>But that was a comment.

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<v Speaker 8>Mark.

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<v Speaker 4>Guys, will you wait a second, Please let me bring

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<v Speaker 4>the main point up. Mark, and infection is an automatic

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<v Speaker 4>side effect.

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<v Speaker 2>It, So tell me. Unless they caused the infection, Mark,

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<v Speaker 2>why would they be responsible for his aftercare. I would

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<v Speaker 2>have no idea. I would have no idea. Now I

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<v Speaker 2>do agree.

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<v Speaker 4>I do agree that he went in there and it

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<v Speaker 4>was pretty obviously infected, and.

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<v Speaker 2>They didn't I mean, did they tell you, Jeff, make

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<v Speaker 2>sure you.

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<v Speaker 4>Take your antibiotic drops it looks infected or anything.

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<v Speaker 10>I no, No, I went to the follow up. There

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<v Speaker 10>was no question about that. The only question that they

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<v Speaker 10>had when I went back for my follow up was

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<v Speaker 10>my pressure in my right eye.

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<v Speaker 5>I'd ask for little I bet, I bet liddle Off

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<v Speaker 5>still there. He's a good guy. You know what I

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01:44:30.960 --> 01:44:33.880
<v Speaker 5>remember about him. He's got l packs man. He is

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<v Speaker 5>a great guy.

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<v Speaker 4>Hey, Jeff, I want to ask you something just really

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<v Speaker 4>quick answers. When you went back for your follow up,

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<v Speaker 4>you weren't having an issue at the time, right, No, Now,

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<v Speaker 4>how was the pressure in your eye?

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<v Speaker 10>The pressure the pressure is good?

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<v Speaker 2>Now, No, how was it when you went for your

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<v Speaker 2>follow up?

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<v Speaker 10>It was it was like twenty three or something for

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01:45:00.520 --> 01:45:01.520
<v Speaker 10>I don't know what that means.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know what that means.

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<v Speaker 10>The pressure was high, okay?

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<v Speaker 4>What did they recommend when they did your pressure and

1945
01:45:08.399 --> 01:45:10.680
<v Speaker 4>it was high to do drops?

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<v Speaker 2>Okay? Then then when was your very next problem?

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<v Speaker 10>The very next problem was the day I was supposed

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<v Speaker 10>to go back and get it checked to make sure

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01:45:23.720 --> 01:45:27.279
<v Speaker 10>the pressure going down after the drop I developed, And.

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<v Speaker 12>What was that?

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<v Speaker 2>Okay? And then what did they say about the blurry

1952
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<v Speaker 2>and all of that.

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<v Speaker 10>Well, they said that you probably got some jel okay.

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<v Speaker 4>Then then why then, when when do you think the

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01:45:41.560 --> 01:45:42.600
<v Speaker 4>infection started?

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<v Speaker 10>Well, the only way the infection could start was was

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01:45:48.359 --> 01:45:50.079
<v Speaker 10>the only way I could have got the infection was

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01:45:50.119 --> 01:45:53.039
<v Speaker 10>from the surgery, is what the retino specialist is telling me.

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<v Speaker 2>Jeff, Jeff, you're not listening to me.

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<v Speaker 10>Man.

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01:45:57.439 --> 01:46:03.039
<v Speaker 4>Every single every single surgery, every single surgery can cause

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01:46:03.039 --> 01:46:06.960
<v Speaker 4>an infection. But it's not the fault of the surgery.

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<v Speaker 4>It's the aftercare, the actual I'm just telling you truly infection.

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<v Speaker 4>When you say it was caused by the surgery, of

1965
01:46:17.239 --> 01:46:21.800
<v Speaker 4>course it was. But that doesn't mean that everyone who

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01:46:22.000 --> 01:46:27.279
<v Speaker 4>has a surgery gets an infection. So why did you

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01:46:27.479 --> 01:46:32.760
<v Speaker 4>get an infection? The answer most of the time is

1968
01:46:33.359 --> 01:46:39.279
<v Speaker 4>post surgery. That's why whenever you have surgery, they watch

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01:46:39.359 --> 01:46:41.399
<v Speaker 4>you like a dog and tell you make sure you

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01:46:41.520 --> 01:46:43.079
<v Speaker 4>keep it clean, make sure you don't do this, make

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01:46:43.119 --> 01:46:45.239
<v Speaker 4>sure you don't do that, make sure you do your.

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01:46:45.199 --> 01:46:47.079
<v Speaker 2>Drops, or make sure you do your sab or make

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01:46:47.119 --> 01:46:49.560
<v Speaker 2>sure you take your pills. Whatever. I don't know what

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01:46:49.680 --> 01:46:54.600
<v Speaker 2>your situation was. Do you understand? Cause is not malpractice.

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01:46:55.319 --> 01:47:04.520
<v Speaker 2>What's malpractice is unusual results and after care neglect, literally neglect.

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<v Speaker 4>So so I don't think, as Mark said, you have

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01:47:07.760 --> 01:47:10.079
<v Speaker 4>a case. I don't think you have anything. What you

1978
01:47:10.319 --> 01:47:14.359
<v Speaker 4>are and you should be. You're pissed off because these

1979
01:47:14.479 --> 01:47:17.640
<v Speaker 4>people were not attentive to you, and I agree with

1980
01:47:17.800 --> 01:47:21.279
<v Speaker 4>you wholeheartedly. They if everything you're telling me is true,

1981
01:47:21.760 --> 01:47:25.159
<v Speaker 4>they were not attentive and they should have been more attentive.

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<v Speaker 2>Because even if infection was as a result of a

1983
01:47:29.319 --> 01:47:32.439
<v Speaker 2>lack of your own aftercare. They should have been all

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<v Speaker 2>over it.

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<v Speaker 10>Okay, I'm just saying beware then, because the doctors are

1986
01:47:37.119 --> 01:47:39.880
<v Speaker 10>all contracted. This place is owned by a company back

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01:47:39.920 --> 01:47:42.720
<v Speaker 10>in Ohio, and they contracted doctors for this.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>It's so funny how you're trying to make contracted doctors

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01:47:45.880 --> 01:47:49.279
<v Speaker 4>sound bad, because ninety eight percent of all clinics have

1991
01:47:49.399 --> 01:47:50.399
<v Speaker 4>contracted doctors.

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<v Speaker 10>But go ahead, because the clinic personnel is part of

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01:47:54.520 --> 01:47:57.680
<v Speaker 10>the is part of the eye doctor company, and the

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01:47:57.760 --> 01:48:00.800
<v Speaker 10>doctors are contracted. That's what the doctor told me. He says,

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01:48:00.840 --> 01:48:01.520
<v Speaker 10>we don't get there.

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<v Speaker 2>What difference does that make? I don't know what did

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01:48:06.159 --> 01:48:09.960
<v Speaker 2>the business structure? No, no, Jeff, listen. What you're doing

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01:48:10.119 --> 01:48:11.239
<v Speaker 2>is what I call listen.

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<v Speaker 4>It's very common, accumulating injustices or accumulating just detractors.

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<v Speaker 2>But they don't mean anything. And I'll bet you he

2001
01:48:22.960 --> 01:48:26.720
<v Speaker 2>had dirty shoes. I mean who they drive chevies. I

2002
01:48:26.800 --> 01:48:28.920
<v Speaker 2>don't know. You could find a lot of things, but

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01:48:29.079 --> 01:48:31.800
<v Speaker 2>the fact that their contractors have nothing to do with it.

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<v Speaker 2>If you're going to give a review about Icon, it's

2005
01:48:35.159 --> 01:48:38.199
<v Speaker 2>very simple. Watch out for Icon. I care.

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01:48:38.359 --> 01:48:41.239
<v Speaker 4>I had surgery there, and I don't think the surgeons

2007
01:48:41.319 --> 01:48:46.079
<v Speaker 4>could have cared less when I contacted them about possible complications.

2008
01:48:46.560 --> 01:48:50.520
<v Speaker 4>I was feeling I discomfort, I developed an infection, and

2009
01:48:50.640 --> 01:48:52.960
<v Speaker 4>they should have caught it sooner and sent me to

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01:48:53.079 --> 01:48:53.760
<v Speaker 4>a specialist.

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<v Speaker 2>What do I care?

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01:48:55.760 --> 01:49:01.520
<v Speaker 4>That the doctors are contracted humers, sometimes getting their own

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01:49:01.600 --> 01:49:04.800
<v Speaker 4>frickin' way when they want to make some kind of

2014
01:49:04.840 --> 01:49:08.359
<v Speaker 4>a complaint and they start sounding like nuts because they

2015
01:49:08.640 --> 01:49:13.680
<v Speaker 4>don't confine themselves to the issues. Okay, so you start out,

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01:49:14.319 --> 01:49:17.680
<v Speaker 4>I'm extracting from you some pretty strong issues. I think

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01:49:17.760 --> 01:49:19.920
<v Speaker 4>there was a lack of follow up, and I think

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01:49:20.399 --> 01:49:24.000
<v Speaker 4>that probably so many of them go so smoothly they're

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01:49:24.039 --> 01:49:25.600
<v Speaker 4>probably resting on their laurels.

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<v Speaker 2>I believe that. I believe that, you know, Jeff. Do

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01:49:31.600 --> 01:49:32.479
<v Speaker 2>you know why I know that.

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01:49:36.680 --> 01:49:42.359
<v Speaker 4>Because I know someone else that had complications worse than yours,

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01:49:46.920 --> 01:49:50.279
<v Speaker 4>and I don't feel they were as attentive as they

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01:49:50.319 --> 01:49:50.960
<v Speaker 4>should have been.

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01:49:54.359 --> 01:49:59.680
<v Speaker 2>So and by the way, in my opinion, that person

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01:50:00.119 --> 01:50:07.760
<v Speaker 2>had a clear cut malpractice case that they did not pursue.

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<v Speaker 4>Okay, so that's why I believe you probably have an issue.

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<v Speaker 4>But I don't think you can do I don't think

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01:50:17.840 --> 01:50:21.399
<v Speaker 4>you have any money coming or anything like that. However,

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01:50:21.880 --> 01:50:26.960
<v Speaker 4>I was shocked at the price you told me. Did

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01:50:27.079 --> 01:50:30.119
<v Speaker 4>each I cost you six grand or seven thousand dollars

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01:50:30.199 --> 01:50:31.439
<v Speaker 4>four dollars?

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<v Speaker 10>Yeah?

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01:50:33.159 --> 01:50:35.680
<v Speaker 2>I know. I mean and by the.

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<v Speaker 4>Way, people say, hey, you didn't pay for your tom

2036
01:50:38.039 --> 01:50:42.119
<v Speaker 4>Well I did pay, and I might have gotten a discount,

2037
01:50:42.479 --> 01:50:46.000
<v Speaker 4>but even full retail, I don't remember being that much money.

2038
01:50:46.399 --> 01:50:48.359
<v Speaker 4>So right now, if someone comes in off the street,

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01:50:48.760 --> 01:50:51.239
<v Speaker 4>are you telling me for a clear lens exchange? It's

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01:50:51.359 --> 01:50:52.880
<v Speaker 4>seven thousand.

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01:50:52.520 --> 01:50:55.199
<v Speaker 10>Dollars, seven thousand dollars a nine.

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<v Speaker 2>Geez wow?

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01:51:00.479 --> 01:51:03.600
<v Speaker 10>Yeah, and what do they call it?

2044
01:51:03.720 --> 01:51:05.840
<v Speaker 2>Do they still call it a clear lens exchange?

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01:51:06.359 --> 01:51:07.479
<v Speaker 10>Clear lens exchange?

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01:51:08.840 --> 01:51:08.880
<v Speaker 9>No?

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01:51:09.000 --> 01:51:11.600
<v Speaker 10>I remember you were very happy with what you had done.

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<v Speaker 10>So that's why I want to see. Yeah, absolutely, absolutely

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01:51:15.279 --> 01:51:16.600
<v Speaker 10>to the point that they were at.

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<v Speaker 2>So but but let me ask you the this part.

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01:51:20.000 --> 01:51:20.479
<v Speaker 2>Can you see?

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01:51:20.560 --> 01:51:24.479
<v Speaker 10>Well, yeah, but my right eye is still I still

2053
01:51:24.520 --> 01:51:27.439
<v Speaker 10>have floaters and still have a blurry vision.

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01:51:27.520 --> 01:51:28.920
<v Speaker 2>What are they going to do about that one?

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01:51:28.960 --> 01:51:29.079
<v Speaker 14>Bro?

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01:51:29.239 --> 01:51:30.239
<v Speaker 2>What are they going to do about it?

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01:51:30.319 --> 01:51:32.880
<v Speaker 10>I'm still They're still being monitored by Kaiser.

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01:51:33.079 --> 01:51:36.399
<v Speaker 4>So well you wait, wait, if you had a bitch

2059
01:51:36.439 --> 01:51:38.640
<v Speaker 4>react to me? Done and they sucked out all the fluid,

2060
01:51:38.680 --> 01:51:39.840
<v Speaker 4>you shouldn't have any floaters.

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01:51:40.920 --> 01:51:42.279
<v Speaker 10>Yeah, but they can't get it all out.

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01:51:43.720 --> 01:51:47.760
<v Speaker 4>Of course they can. But of course they can. Well,

2063
01:51:49.520 --> 01:51:51.600
<v Speaker 4>why can't they get it all out? They take the

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01:51:51.720 --> 01:51:52.279
<v Speaker 4>fluid out.

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01:51:52.439 --> 01:51:54.800
<v Speaker 12>When it's out, it's out, They take the fluid out.

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01:51:54.840 --> 01:51:57.520
<v Speaker 10>But I mean all the little floaters that.

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01:51:57.520 --> 01:52:00.520
<v Speaker 2>Are in there are in the fluid.

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01:52:02.319 --> 01:52:06.640
<v Speaker 10>Yeah, you know they can't. Okay, well they can't. What

2069
01:52:07.000 --> 01:52:09.399
<v Speaker 10>I really trust this guy so well?

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01:52:09.640 --> 01:52:10.199
<v Speaker 12>I do too.

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01:52:10.439 --> 01:52:12.920
<v Speaker 4>I mean, they obviously know more than me, and maybe

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01:52:12.960 --> 01:52:19.439
<v Speaker 4>I had just a lucky circumstance where but man, did

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01:52:19.520 --> 01:52:21.840
<v Speaker 4>they tell you that, they actually tell you we'll never

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01:52:21.920 --> 01:52:23.000
<v Speaker 4>get all the floaters out.

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01:52:25.119 --> 01:52:27.119
<v Speaker 10>I don't know that. They don't know that.

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01:52:27.560 --> 01:52:30.479
<v Speaker 2>Why don't you ask them? Tell them you're still having

2077
01:52:30.560 --> 01:52:33.720
<v Speaker 2>freaking floaters in an eye? They didn't bit directed me on.

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01:52:34.600 --> 01:52:37.000
<v Speaker 10>They're still monitoring it. They don't know what they have

2079
01:52:37.119 --> 01:52:42.239
<v Speaker 10>to do yet as far as uh to cure it,

2080
01:52:42.479 --> 01:52:45.720
<v Speaker 10>or it may even be in the lens might be

2081
01:52:45.840 --> 01:52:47.680
<v Speaker 10>the issue. There's all kinds of different things.

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01:52:48.399 --> 01:52:50.640
<v Speaker 4>Well, if you have a floater in the lens that

2083
01:52:50.720 --> 01:52:56.079
<v Speaker 4>doesn't move, does your floater move?

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01:52:56.319 --> 01:52:59.159
<v Speaker 10>But he's saying there may be some I don't know.

2085
01:52:59.239 --> 01:53:02.119
<v Speaker 2>He's the so of course.

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01:53:02.960 --> 01:53:06.560
<v Speaker 4>Okay, did you ask him? Did you ask him if

2087
01:53:06.600 --> 01:53:09.199
<v Speaker 4>that I will ever clear up and give you good vision?

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01:53:10.560 --> 01:53:15.079
<v Speaker 10>It could? Yeah, he said it very well. Okay, Yeah, I.

2089
01:53:15.159 --> 01:53:16.359
<v Speaker 2>Might post my eye out.

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<v Speaker 4>Ye bye, I'm gonna. I want you to call us

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01:53:21.600 --> 01:53:26.119
<v Speaker 4>back in a month. I'm serious, Jeff. Okay, will you

2092
01:53:26.239 --> 01:53:27.720
<v Speaker 4>call us back and let us know how it goes.

2093
01:53:27.840 --> 01:53:30.359
<v Speaker 4>I'm really interested. Three h three seven one three eight

2094
01:53:30.439 --> 01:53:32.680
<v Speaker 4>or five? I listened, Mark, You know what, people have

2095
01:53:32.800 --> 01:53:36.039
<v Speaker 4>issues like this. It's pretty serious. Go poke your freaking eyes.

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01:53:36.039 --> 01:53:41.039
<v Speaker 2>It's he has been on for an hour. Oh stop,

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01:53:41.199 --> 01:53:43.720
<v Speaker 2>I mean on and off one hour. Mark.

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01:53:44.520 --> 01:53:47.319
<v Speaker 4>First of all, Mark, we we can address criticism of

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01:53:47.359 --> 01:53:49.119
<v Speaker 4>the show, maybe in a better forum.

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<v Speaker 2>But but I agree with you. It was I agree

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01:53:51.920 --> 01:53:52.079
<v Speaker 2>with you.

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01:53:53.279 --> 01:53:53.600
<v Speaker 11>I did.

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01:53:53.880 --> 01:53:56.720
<v Speaker 2>It was overdone a little. But I'll tell you why

2104
01:53:56.880 --> 01:54:01.479
<v Speaker 2>it's a little. I know that there are many issues. Okay.

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01:54:01.920 --> 01:54:04.720
<v Speaker 2>One of the issues is the actual eye care.

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01:54:04.880 --> 01:54:08.119
<v Speaker 4>The other issue is malpractice in general, and then and

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01:54:08.199 --> 01:54:09.960
<v Speaker 4>then personal responsibility and all that.

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<v Speaker 2>I get what you're saying, No, I really do. But

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<v Speaker 2>I think that when consumer.

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<v Speaker 4>Issues are complicated and have a lot of different issues

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<v Speaker 4>that they affect, it goes beyond the actual that one case.

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<v Speaker 4>We have more coming up, and then we're gonna spend

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<v Speaker 4>sure thing Denver's best roofer Excel Roofing dot com.

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<v Speaker 2>You don't pay a cent until you're content.

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<v Speaker 4>seven to one.

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<v Speaker 2>Help.

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<v Speaker 4>You'll think you're his only customer when you choose Frank

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<v Speaker 4>durand the real estate Man dot com to list your

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<v Speaker 2>Hey Tom Martino here, Welcome to the show.

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<v Speaker 4>Three O three seven one three talk seven one three

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<v Speaker 4>eight two five five. All right, now for the remainder

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<v Speaker 4>of the show, we'll talk about drywall. Just kidding, but

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<v Speaker 4>Cindy does have a question on drywall, and Cindy, what's.

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<v Speaker 2>Going on with you?

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<v Speaker 13>Thank you.

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<v Speaker 17>I've got a master bathroom that has been linking into

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<v Speaker 17>ceiling into the family room below for years, and it

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<v Speaker 17>would go be off and on, so I'd be concerned

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<v Speaker 17>about it, and then it would dry up. So now

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<v Speaker 17>we removed the toilet and we found out whoever put

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<v Speaker 17>that toilet it in didn't put a wax bring in

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<v Speaker 17>or no, oh my goodness, no, I'm sorry, had a

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<v Speaker 17>wax ring that could be devastating.

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<v Speaker 2>No flange, no flange, what does that mean?

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<v Speaker 17>That's fair.

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<v Speaker 4>That means that flange that goes into the floor wasn't

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<v Speaker 4>there that that receives it. So listen, Cindy, it leaked

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<v Speaker 4>into your lower family room.

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<v Speaker 17>Well, I just have a line, a straight line. So

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<v Speaker 17>we cut like six by six square out to look

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<v Speaker 17>up there.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but what did it? I need to know the damages.

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<v Speaker 4>You had damages in the bathroom or underneath on the

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<v Speaker 4>first floor.

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<v Speaker 17>The bathroom, it was wet behind the toilet a lot.

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<v Speaker 17>So I was renting the house out and I didn't

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<v Speaker 17>know what was going on, but it was where was

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<v Speaker 17>the main damage?

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<v Speaker 2>Where was the main damage?

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<v Speaker 17>Really, it's just the ceiling in the family room below

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<v Speaker 17>that was damaged.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, so keep going.

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<v Speaker 17>It's not even an insurance thing. I'm just going to

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<v Speaker 17>put a flangeine there. I had somebody look at it

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<v Speaker 17>and he cut the ceiling out. We're looking up there

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<v Speaker 17>for mold and I don't know if I should go

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<v Speaker 17>to Low's and get up home people get a mold

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<v Speaker 17>cast or spray with vinegar and then just cut.

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<v Speaker 4>Do you know Genesis Genesis Total Exteriors. The reason I

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<v Speaker 4>ask I talk about Genesis they can do a mold

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<v Speaker 4>test for you and they have the expertise without ripping

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<v Speaker 4>you off or exaggerating on getting rid of it or

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<v Speaker 4>replacing that ceiling if you need the whole ceiling replaced,

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<v Speaker 4>because they do baths as well, and they do kitchens

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<v Speaker 4>and they do exteriors on the house. Now, that's what

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<v Speaker 4>I'm saying, if you really want it done well, I

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<v Speaker 4>don't mean getting the work necessarily done, but at least

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<v Speaker 4>getting honesty about the mold, because so many people rip

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<v Speaker 4>off people when it comes to mold. So if you're interested,

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<v Speaker 4>I just want to tell you Genesis Total Exteriors will

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<v Speaker 4>will help you with the mold part and then rebuilding

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<v Speaker 4>if you need at three zho three six seven nine

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<v Speaker 4>eight five zero nine Genesis now listen.

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<v Speaker 2>In addition to that, though, I want to know what

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<v Speaker 2>are you mainly calling about?

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<v Speaker 12>Now?

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<v Speaker 17>What am I calling about? Now? I don't know if

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<v Speaker 17>I need to rip more than six by six inches

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<v Speaker 17>out of that ceiling and look farther into the ceiling.

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<v Speaker 4>Than just Okay, that's what Genesis, Mark Schamansky and his

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<v Speaker 4>team see, Cindy.

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<v Speaker 2>I would be so hesitant to have you call a

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<v Speaker 2>so called restoration.

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<v Speaker 4>Company or someone who says water damages or just a contractor,

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<v Speaker 4>because so many times when they see water and they

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<v Speaker 4>hear a homeowner who has concerns about mold, they see

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<v Speaker 4>dollar signs because they can scare the hell out of

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<v Speaker 4>you and say, oh, Cindy, you're gonna have to tear

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<v Speaker 4>all this out.

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<v Speaker 2>You're gonna have to take the floor out, You're gonna

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<v Speaker 2>have to do this.

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<v Speaker 13>See.

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<v Speaker 2>That's where Mark will not do that to you.

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<v Speaker 4>That's why I'm confident about Genesis in this particular case.

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<v Speaker 17>Okay, sounds good, because I think a drafted to tear

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<v Speaker 17>that the tile floor out in the master bathroom and

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<v Speaker 17>look at all of the braces on there.

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<v Speaker 4>Say he has ways of looking in there and doing tests,

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<v Speaker 4>and I doubt you'll have to do that now if

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<v Speaker 4>you do, though, and he tells you that he's a

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<v Speaker 4>pretty honest not pretty he's an honest man. I mean,

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<v Speaker 4>I've known the man for thirty years and one thing,

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<v Speaker 4>I'm just so afraid because you're in an exact position

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<v Speaker 4>to get ripped off. These are the kinds of homeowners

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<v Speaker 4>people love when they don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>It's the great unknown.

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<v Speaker 4>Because Cindy, if somebody came in there and they had

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<v Speaker 4>a good pitch, they could say, well, Cindy, we're gonna

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<v Speaker 4>have to pull up this whole floor and we're gonna

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<v Speaker 4>have to do the whole ceiling downstairs, you'd probably think, well, okay, right,

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<v Speaker 4>So first I wouldn't bother what's that?

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<v Speaker 17>That was my first thought, I'm gonna have to rip

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<v Speaker 17>everything apart and see what's going on.

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<v Speaker 2>You're right, and you may not have to.

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<v Speaker 4>And in fact, Genesis also has ways of making strategic

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<v Speaker 4>openings for drying it out. You see the truth about

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<v Speaker 4>mo First and foremost mold is not good, but not

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<v Speaker 4>all of it is toxic. Now it's not all great,

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<v Speaker 4>but it's not all really seriously toxic.

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<v Speaker 2>But you still don't want it.

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<v Speaker 4>But the truth about mold is this, once you dry

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<v Speaker 4>up the food source, you are fine to go.

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<v Speaker 2>And the food source would be water or some organic material.

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<v Speaker 4>Once you clean that up, then all you have to

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<v Speaker 4>do is encapsulate or remove whatever is there.

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<v Speaker 2>It doesn't recire.

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<v Speaker 4>A lot of people treat it like asbestos, and it

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<v Speaker 4>doesn't have to be unless you had extreme toxic mold,

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<v Speaker 4>and for that you got to remove it. But it's

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<v Speaker 4>you know, ever since Ed McMahon, I don't know if

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<v Speaker 4>you realize this. Ed McMahon was the first major mold

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<v Speaker 4>case in the United States. He was the sidekick for

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<v Speaker 4>Johnny Carson. Who did you know before Jimmy Fallon did.

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<v Speaker 2>The Tonight show?

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<v Speaker 4>Okay, that guy sued his insurance company and was one

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<v Speaker 4>millions and millions of dollars because of a mold case.

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<v Speaker 2>If you really go back and look at his case,

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<v Speaker 2>it wasn't even that strong.

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<v Speaker 4>But ever since then, people used that court precedent to

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<v Speaker 4>get insurance companies to pay for mold.

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<v Speaker 2>Mold, mold, mold.

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<v Speaker 4>Hey, Brian, aren't insurance companies scared to death about mold?

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<v Speaker 6>They are? And I was just it was resonating with

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<v Speaker 6>me as you were talking there, because we deal with

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<v Speaker 6>this so frequently. Where these remediation companies, you gotta be

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<v Speaker 6>so careful because they come in there and if they do,

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<v Speaker 6>they use scare tactics and they won't even they want to,

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<v Speaker 6>and they won't give you a price. That's the weird thing.

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<v Speaker 6>They'll say, you know what, we don't have time to

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<v Speaker 6>get bids. We need to get going on this right now.

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<v Speaker 6>You just sign here. Let's get going. You know, we'll

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<v Speaker 6>build the insurance company and before you know it. I mean,

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<v Speaker 6>you just have these claims that are out of control,

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<v Speaker 6>or if you end up not making the claim, you

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<v Speaker 6>have a bill that is out of control.

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<v Speaker 13>But they do.

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<v Speaker 6>They try to rip everything out and they want to

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<v Speaker 6>cut the drywall up. And I understand if it's a

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<v Speaker 6>big water claim they have to do certain things, but

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<v Speaker 6>it seems like they do that on relatively minoring By

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<v Speaker 6>the way, By the way.

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<v Speaker 4>I gotta take a break. But she mentioned and I

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<v Speaker 4>want to address it. She didn't want to put in

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<v Speaker 4>a homeowners claimer, wasn't going to and I'm not sure.

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<v Speaker 2>If it's apropos or not. We'll talk about that and

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<v Speaker 2>more coming up.

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<v Speaker 2>Hi Tom Martine, your troubleshooter three oh three seven one

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<v Speaker 2>three talk three h three seven one three.

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<v Speaker 4>Eight two five five. So we basically I think covered

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<v Speaker 4>everything there. Brian on insurance, why.

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<v Speaker 2>Would she not put in an insurance glam Would that

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<v Speaker 2>be considered a casualty loss? If she discovered this and

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<v Speaker 2>somebody had not years ago put in a flange? Cindy,

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<v Speaker 2>how long ago was that toilet installed?

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<v Speaker 17>Ten years?

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<v Speaker 2>So? Did you have it installed? No?

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<v Speaker 17>It was a handyman from nextdoor dot com.

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<v Speaker 2>No, what I mean is were you Did you own

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<v Speaker 2>the house at the time?

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<v Speaker 13>Oh?

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<v Speaker 17>Yes, yes?

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, So, Brian, if.

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<v Speaker 4>You discovered that somebody did something wrong, and I don't

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<v Speaker 4>know if the timeline's important or not, would it ever

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<v Speaker 4>be covered by homeowners?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 6>It could be, But see if it happened over that

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<v Speaker 6>long period of time, it would have to fall underneath

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<v Speaker 6>the coverage of seepage, which is, you know, something that

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<v Speaker 6>not all policies cover, so you would have to have

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<v Speaker 6>an extra writer if the company provided it. But even

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<v Speaker 6>with that said, Tom, depending on the total amount of damage,

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<v Speaker 6>I'm very hesitant to give people a recommendation to make

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<v Speaker 6>a water claim. In general, it would have to be

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<v Speaker 6>a pretty big claim for me to give the advice

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<v Speaker 6>to make the claim in the first place, because.

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<v Speaker 2>Water claims considered considered dirty and do they give you cooties?

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<v Speaker 6>As a they do give you cooties. They are they

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<v Speaker 6>are one of the worst losses that you can have

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<v Speaker 6>for insurance, and specifically for the reason of mold.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean that is I know, but why do they

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<v Speaker 2>Why do they look at people askance when they've had

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<v Speaker 2>some water claims. Do they think that they're looking for

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<v Speaker 2>trouble or no?

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<v Speaker 6>No, I really do think it's more along the lines

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<v Speaker 6>of what is the remaining damage that's there? Did it truly?

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<v Speaker 6>And that's some of the conversations you have with on writers.

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<v Speaker 6>The last was it professionally remediated? You know what exactly happened?

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<v Speaker 6>They want to know that it was something that was

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<v Speaker 6>completely cleaned up. They don't want something that's going to

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<v Speaker 6>come rise up later as far as with mold, whether

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<v Speaker 6>it be liability with mold, you know that someone's breathing

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<v Speaker 6>in or you know just the damage that's caused from it.

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<v Speaker 6>So water is just one of those claims that you

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<v Speaker 6>don't want to make unless it's a pretty substantial claim.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, So she's pretty accurate in what she's doing at

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<v Speaker 2>this point. Yeah. Did you have a question, Cindy for him,

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<v Speaker 2>he's in the homeowner's insurance business.

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<v Speaker 17>Yeah, well, no, thank you. I did put a homeowner's

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<v Speaker 17>claim in several months ago for a roof because somebody

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<v Speaker 17>said I can get a whole new roof. It was

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<v Speaker 17>so bad and I got denied. They said no it's

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<v Speaker 17>not or well you don't need next couple.

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<v Speaker 2>Wait a minute, Cindy, Now that that you should have

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<v Speaker 2>called a really reputable roof for first, and because once

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<v Speaker 2>you called the insurance company, whether they replaced it or not,

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<v Speaker 2>it counts against you. Did you know that.

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<v Speaker 17>I know that, and I should have called the guy goes.

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<v Speaker 17>You don't even need to call your agent, you can

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<v Speaker 17>just call the company.

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<v Speaker 2>Did you have certain any neighbors getting new roofs?

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<v Speaker 17>No, it was from you know, the hail from a

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<v Speaker 17>year ago.

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<v Speaker 2>No, I understand that. But but you did put in

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<v Speaker 2>a claim, right, you opened an actual claim? Right?

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<v Speaker 17>I did, And so they fixed a little bit of

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<v Speaker 17>my patioto how much?

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<v Speaker 2>How much?

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<v Speaker 17>They gave me three thousand dollars and it costs about

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<v Speaker 17>three thousand, so it was an even But now I've

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<v Speaker 17>got a claim in so yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>But here's what I want you to do. Now that

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<v Speaker 4>you got the black guy have a claim, I want

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<v Speaker 4>you to do something. I want you to re examine

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<v Speaker 4>that claim because you have three years to reopen it.

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<v Speaker 4>What I mean by that is you want somebody you

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<v Speaker 4>can trust to at least give it the once over.

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<v Speaker 4>I would call Excel Roofing and I would just say,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, do I need a roof that here's what

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<v Speaker 4>happened a few years ago, and they only gave me

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<v Speaker 4>three grand I would like to know the condition of

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<v Speaker 4>my roof. I really would, Now, Cindy, why would you

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<v Speaker 4>do that? Because if it turns out that you do

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<v Speaker 4>need a roof, I'm not talking about from old age,

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<v Speaker 4>but you need a roof as a result of that hailstorm.

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<v Speaker 4>Now that you put in a claim, you've actually extended

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<v Speaker 4>the deadline. You know, you only have a year from

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<v Speaker 4>the date of loss. But since you did a claim

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<v Speaker 4>and you got three grand, now you got three years

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<v Speaker 4>to reopen it. If they didn't treat you right, if

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<v Speaker 4>Excel roofing things, you know you probably do need a

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<v Speaker 4>roof and it probably was hurt in that hailstorm more

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<v Speaker 4>than your insurance company said, then I would get an

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<v Speaker 4>insurance adjuster involved. Namely, I would say Paragon Services, Matt Sanford,

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<v Speaker 4>and I would have him open a claim and you

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<v Speaker 4>might be able to get a new roof.

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<v Speaker 2>Now, I'm not saying they weren't honest with you. It

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<v Speaker 2>could be that you only had a few damages, but

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<v Speaker 2>it's very unlikely, very unlikely that three thousand dollars would

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<v Speaker 2>have fixed anything. It almost sounds like they just wanted

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<v Speaker 2>to appease you and get you off their back. Cindy,

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<v Speaker 2>don't take that lightly.

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<v Speaker 14>Now.

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<v Speaker 2>I know you're worried about this toilet.

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<v Speaker 4>Worry about that, do that on your own dime, but

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<v Speaker 4>please do me a favor, and you call Genesis when

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<v Speaker 4>it comes to that. And you can also call Genesis

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02:08:44.680 --> 02:08:48.239
<v Speaker 4>about your roof, but you can also call Excel roofing,

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<v Speaker 4>but call a good roofer to give you an opinion

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<v Speaker 4>about your roof and that specific damage.

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<v Speaker 2>They said you had to make sure it's not more extensive.

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<v Speaker 2>Please do that and then let us know, let us

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<v Speaker 2>know what happens. Yes, because I think I have a

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<v Speaker 2>I have a sneaky feeling that you probably have a

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<v Speaker 2>roof coming. How old is that roof, by the way,

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<v Speaker 2>I have no idea.

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<v Speaker 17>Seriously, maybe fifteen eighteen. I don't even know.

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<v Speaker 4>From that one year old storm, from that storm that

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02:09:21.239 --> 02:09:24.960
<v Speaker 4>happened a year before that. Were other neighbors getting their

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<v Speaker 4>roofs replaced from that storm? Yes, I okay, Cindy, Then

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<v Speaker 4>please do not wait. I want you to call and

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02:09:37.159 --> 02:09:40.640
<v Speaker 4>get this started. Call Genesis. While he's there, he can

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<v Speaker 4>take a look at your roof. I mean, you can

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<v Speaker 4>have it all done with one person looking at it

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<v Speaker 4>if you want. Three O three seven one three talks

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<v Speaker 4>seven to one three eight two five five.

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<v Speaker 2>We got more coming right up.

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<v Speaker 4>Go with a sure thing Denver's Best roofer Excelroofing dot com.

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<v Speaker 4>You don't pay a cent until you're content. Time for

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<v Speaker 4>an insurance checkup, free no obligation comparison call Compass insurance

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<v Speaker 4>paying too much your coverage at dozens of insurance companies.

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<v Speaker 2>Find out now three oh three seven to seven to

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<v Speaker 4>You'll think you're his only customer when you choose Frank

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<v Speaker 4>durand the real estate Man dot com to list your

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<v Speaker 4>home with Remax Alliance three oh three nine two zero

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<v Speaker 4>sixteen twenty two. Hey, I'm Tom Martino, your troubleshooter three

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<v Speaker 4>oh three seven one three talk seven one three eight

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<v Speaker 4>two five five.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, I want to show you this real quick. I

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<v Speaker 2>think it's pretty cool. This is a one hundred thousand

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<v Speaker 2>dollars shower. It's like a whole room back there. I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know if you can see it, but I put

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<v Speaker 2>it up on our feed. If you go to referless

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<v Speaker 2>dot com or Troubleshooter Network, not referraless dot com, Troubleshooter

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<v Speaker 2>Network or referless on YouTube, we have a channel.

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<v Speaker 4>Don't look for me, look for Troubleshooter Network. Now, if

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<v Speaker 4>you look at these closely, that is like a whole

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<v Speaker 4>room back there. I think it's a double shower that

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<v Speaker 4>rounded glass, and then I believe it's porcelain walls or

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<v Speaker 4>whatever it is. It's beautiful, but it's pretty darn cool.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, so what you see is that front part right,

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<v Speaker 4>but it actually goes back and around in a bench.

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<v Speaker 4>It's like a community shower almost. I mean, you know, damn.

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<v Speaker 4>So what's in your mind today where we probably can't

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<v Speaker 4>take a new call? I guess we could, but we're

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<v Speaker 4>not going to. I want to ask Compass Insurance.

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<v Speaker 2>Group if they could come back and recap some of

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<v Speaker 2>the if you did you have any really good insurance

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<v Speaker 2>checkups where you could save people substantial money?

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<v Speaker 6>Well, I actually so, Riley, my son's been here and

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<v Speaker 6>he was actually working on one. So as I know

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<v Speaker 6>that he has an example of one that he got

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<v Speaker 6>that he.

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<v Speaker 2>Go ahead, let's do it, y.

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<v Speaker 6>Can you hear me?

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, sir?

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<v Speaker 6>I had a someone call in your current all state

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<v Speaker 6>customer been there for twenty years, very similar to the

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<v Speaker 6>last situation where they had statementum limits twenty five thousand

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<v Speaker 6>to person, and I noticed while shopping it they had

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<v Speaker 6>no mortgage on the home. So immediately I knew they

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<v Speaker 6>had assets and yet had no protection. So I shopped

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<v Speaker 6>him with one of our companies, came back, saved one thousand,

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<v Speaker 6>seven hundred dollars, and I brought their liability from twenty

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<v Speaker 6>five thousand to person up to one point five million

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<v Speaker 6>and saved him seventeen hundred.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh my god, they had they had only twenty five.

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<v Speaker 6>Thousand, twenty five thousand to person and it paid off

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<v Speaker 6>house worth over seven hundred k.

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<v Speaker 2>They were in serious danger. Plus he saved him money.

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<v Speaker 2>Holy crap.

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<v Speaker 4>That's a great one. And that is uh Riley with compass.

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<v Speaker 4>He's uh his son and he gets my dinger at

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<v Speaker 4>the end of the show.

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<v Speaker 2>That's good. I never got any. They were out of time,

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<v Speaker 2>Thank god. Don't forget referral. Don't forget referral list dot

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<v Speaker 1>H
