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Speaker 1: Welcome to another Chicks on the Right podcast episode, where

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we have our friend and sponsor of the show, Zach Abraham,

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with us from Bulwart Capital Management, and we're going to

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do things a little different today. We're not actually going

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to talk about the money world or the economy or

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anything like that. We want to talk because we've all

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got kids, and we've all got kids that have participated

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in sports. We want to talk about club sports. There's

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an interesting article from last year from The Federalist talking

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about how seventy percent of teenagers in youth are dropping

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out of organized sports by age thirteen just because of

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the burnout and the injuries. What's been your experience with

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club sports.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so I've kind of I've got some interesting experience

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with this because you know, I played, I played in college,

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so I grew up really you know, I was doing

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sports year round.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. Football, Yeah, yeah.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, play football. And now I coach it. And so

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my two sons, ten and twelve both play youth football,

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and I recoil it. The way that club sports are

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working right now, just because what you see as you

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see a business coming into it. And I remember the

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first year my wife and I were just married and

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I was asked to help a friend who was coaching

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a football team, a high school football team, and I

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coached for a year to help him out. And I

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remember a parent came up to ask me and said,

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you know, what can my son do to get a

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Division one scholarship? And I looked at him and I said,

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he doesn't have to do anything. And they're like, oh,

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you mean you think he's already there. And I go, no, no, no, No

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matter what your son does, he's not going to get one.

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And they kind of look at me, and I go,

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you need to understand something. You guys. Division one athletes

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are born, maybe they're not made, and people are going

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to convince you to spend mountains of money to give

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your And here's the deal. I can look at your

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son at the age of seventeen and tell you whether

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he has a snowballs chance in hell or not. And

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it's just and like me, I didn't. I was an

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excellent football player. Why didn't I Because I was five

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to nine, two hundred pounds and ran a four eight

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to forty and ain't gonna cut it right like it

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didn't matter. And I worked my tail off so a

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I would say and this whole year round stuff, it's nonsense.

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I went to high school with a guy, and a

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great guy. He was a couple of years younger than me.

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His name's John Lester. Anybody that knows baseball probably knows him.

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He made about two hundred and fifty million dollars playing

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Major League Baseball. He won three World Series, was in

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the All Star Game multiple times. I went to school

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with him, and John played every sport. He didn't play

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these sports year round. And the guy went on to,

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you know, make two hundred and fifty million dollars in

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professional sports. And he played basketball, he played football, he

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played baseball. It rounds out. Then the other side of

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it though, like you know, and we've talked about this

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part of it about youth sports and why I think

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they're so important, sage. They're so important because the kids

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are getting candied everywhere they go, right. And the crazy

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thing it is is, as a coach that coaches these kids,

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their parents come up to me all the time and

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tell me this is the favorite sport they've ever played,

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this is the And yet we work them, I mean

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we work them and we have a great little team.

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We made the championship game this year, and what you see,

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these kids have a hunger for it. They have a

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thirst somebody that is kind to them and good to

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them and encourages them, but also drives them. They're desperate

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to be driven.

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Speaker 3: But I think that the ones that don't have a

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hunger and a thirst are usually gone by the age

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of thirteen. Twelve or thirteen is like the breaking don't

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you think that's a breaking point?

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Speaker 2: I do, But I think there's so many of them

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that leave because they've been so candied up to that point.

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Not because not because they don't have the ability or

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even the tenacity to do it. It's that they just

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you know, some of these kids come out like me.

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I put I was put on a football field and

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fifth grade and I just started flying around hitting people.

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I was a really aggressive kid, right. Some of these kids,

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it takes a while, you know what I mean, It

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takes them a while to wind their sea legs. And

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I think what happens is we think we're doing them

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a favor by soft playing them, right, and really we're not.

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We're not doing them a favor. And it's just it's

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amazing to me how we think kids are so much

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more stupid and so much less perceptive than they are.

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We were probably the harder on our team. They got

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to do a lot of special stuff too. I mean

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we'd have McDonald's nights on Thursday nights after practice, and

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we did all kinds of special stuff. But we drove

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them harder than any other team probably in the league.

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And they loved it, right, And I just think that

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that's everybody's trying to make them feel good rather than

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get them to be good. And kids know a difference.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, And I will say because we have two older kids.

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We have a thirty five year old and a thirty

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year old that both did club sports. One did for

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some and one did for lacrosse. And then our youngest

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does swim, which by the way, isn't all year round sport.

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Swim is all year round because if you don't swim

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for two weeks, you'll lose a lot of your ability

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to do stuff in the world. But the two older kids,

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neither of them did anything. They didn't do their sport

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in college. But they I will ask them today, you know,

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was it worth it, and they will say, absolutely, it

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was worth it. Because they both they get up at

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five in the morning, sometimes earlier they have a work ethic.

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They both are very successful in their careers, and they

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attribute so much of that, so much of it to

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club sports, to getting up in the morning, to the

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work ethic to work in. I mean, they worked all

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the time at their sport, and then that's where they

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cultivated a lot of friendships. They learn how to talk

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to adults, They learn how to deal with coaches, which

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basically is like learning to deal with the boss. I mean,

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there are skills in club sports that you gain that

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are very what's the word, like it transfers over into life. Yeah,

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do you guys.

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Speaker 1: Worry at all that like now anymore to play any

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sport in high school? It's like if you haven't had

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club sports before that you're kind of screwed as a kid.

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It's because now it's starting to seem like such a

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business that and such a money maker that now you're

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you're you can sometimes have kids left behind who might

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be interested in playing something in high school, and then

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if they didn't participate in those, maybe for financial reasons,

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even yeah, then they're then they don't have the same

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shot as other kids who've been you know, you mean,

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you mean a shot at college. Mock no at high school,

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at high school sports, even though because I know Gwen,

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like my daughter, she swims with quite a few kids

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that like on her high school team that do not

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do club and they do just fine.

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Speaker 3: They do just fine.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I think so if if it can sern,

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I think it could certainly cost some kids that otherwise

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would be able to play high school sports and would

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be to participate. But at the same time, like like

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the end result, especially as it relates to like college,

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you know, getting college scholarships and things of that nature.

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But to go you know, to piggyback off what Daisy

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was saying, it's the it's the it's the it's the

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day to day skill. Like I tell people all the time,

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you know, there's no way I would be where I'm

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at today if it wasn't for the football programs that

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I was a part of and the things that I

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was taught and the grint that you learn, and the

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early morning workouts and all that, you know, And like

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you were saying, I still get up at five thirty

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every single morning and workout because it was a habit

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that was built through years of football and and embracing

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that hardship, embracing the tough is it's it's you know,

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I want to teach my kids that because that's where

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all the good stuff is.

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Speaker 3: That's it.

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Speaker 2: We all avoid it. But all of that getting better

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is take me to the deep end of the pool. Man,

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Let's make it. Let's make it hard, and then let's

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learn that that's good. Right, That failure constructive fai. Yeah,

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that's how we get better, right, and taking and taking

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the stigma out of it. But then the other thing

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I'll say too, is that no matter what you do

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for your kid, you can't make up for a love

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or a passion for the sport. Meaning you know, the

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way I was with football, I didn't do any club activities.

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There were kids that did, but I was not. I

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was determined to not let that have me fall behind.

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And you know, you look at these kids like, hey,

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can that sometimes be easier? Sure? But you might not

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have a basketball court in your backyard, but you got pavement,

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you got a driveway, you can work on things right

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like that, you can always get better. That's the other

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thing that kind of ticks me off too. On the

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flip side of this argument, is we have to have

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our kids on club teams or they won't make it. Nonse.

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I think if the kids got the goods and he's

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driven and wants to do it without club, he'll be

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just fine.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. And I think and the driven thing is a

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huge thing too. I mean, like I look at the

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girls that surround my daughter. Always pray that my daughter

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is surrounded by good girls. Believe me. That's like a

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huge part of like parenting. Like in the back end,

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I'm like, please God, just let her be surrounded by

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good people, because you are your friends.

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Speaker 2: Right, I got a fourteen year old daughter. I'm especially

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with girls, right.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you want you want them to be And so

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she and being in you know, club swim, she is

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surrounded by girls who are ambitious and they're driven, and

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they have a good work ethic, and they're good. They

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don't drink, they don't smoke, they don't do drugs. They're

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not crazy boy crazy, you know what I mean. These

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are good girls. And so I so I'm thankful for that.

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So it really there is there are a lot of

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really great benefits about.

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Speaker 1: Well, especially if you're a kid. That's like, if you

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have any kind of social anxiety whatsoever, and you are

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put into a team setting right instantaneously, you have new

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built in friends who are you share a common goal.

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It's so helpful. I think for kids that are shy

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or not particularly outgoing, that helps them feel like they

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have a community.

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Speaker 3: My gosh, it's fantastic.

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Speaker 2: It's also it's also a big crutch and a big

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identity and a big identity anchor if you will. During

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that you know, one of the things that drives me

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nuts about the teenage sex change, like they're like, oh,

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these kids are confused about their sexuality. You're like, what

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fifteen year old kid isn't freaking are you kidding me?

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You don't know what ends up. You feel like the

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biggest weirdo. And that's if you're per that's if you're

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the star athlete in the class getting straight a's, you

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feel that way, right. So the other thing about it is,

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and it's so funny because we very much in our household,

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we're academics first, right, at the same time we are

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entertaining the idea of sending our boys to a different

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high school than we're sending our daughter because of that

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whole football game, the football program thing, meaning I don't

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want to sacrifice academics, but I know that football was

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one of the reasons that I was such a good

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kid in high school. It was one of the reasons

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I didn't get in trouble and didn't get DUIs and

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you didn't do all this stuff because I had a purpose.

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I had something else that I was responsible to that

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was bigger than me, that was very important to me.

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were a really good kid in high school. I was,

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but I wouldn't have been nearly as good a kid

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I could see that too with a lot of

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kids that that participate in clubs work. So when I

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see people dissing it, I'm kind of like, you know,

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I really like a lot of things. I think it

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and people go, oh my gosh, that takes away from

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family time.

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Speaker 1: That is our family time.

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Speaker 2: That family time.

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Speaker 3: I've spent a lot of time being able to talk

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to my daughter for hours in the car. I love

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that time, like that is my time. And so and

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a weekend. Like, would I be engaging as much with her?

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Speaker 2: Probably not? Probably not. Yeah, we grove. I think we

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drove about I think we drove about two hundred and

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fifty miles this weekend doing doing basketball.

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Speaker 3: Bonding time right there? Yeah, right, yeah, yeah, exactly like.

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Speaker 2: The cost on the pair. Look as far as the

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time goes, like, there's many times where you know, and

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I coach your youth sport, there's times where I'm like,

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good god, this is crazy, right, But the alternative, Yeah,

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I just sure it's a.

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Speaker 3: Short period of time and then it's it's over in

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a flash, and you'll look back and you're be like, god,

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I really wish I was in the car with them.

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Speaker 2: Days are long, days are long, and the years are short.

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It's the best, true, it's the best saying I've ever heard,

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because isn't that the truth? Man?

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Speaker 3: Yeah?

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Speaker 1: So true. This is such a nice diversion. I mean,

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I know, we like to ask you about the things

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that you are an expert at, and we will get

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back to that when we talk to you next week.

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But this was a nice diversion, it really was.

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Speaker 2: I enjoy a break too. We've had a little bit

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and it's hard to keep up with all the

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constant changes that Trump is throwing at us, which are

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with it in the meantime. How do people keep up

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with you? Yeah?

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Speaker 2: Pretty easy? So do you just Google Know Your Risk

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Radio podcast or go to Boardcapitalmanagement dot com. We'll have

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Radio podcast and got a bunch of great interviews coming up,

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keep our listeners up to date. So yeah, we'd love

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Speaker 3: Awesome thany ba.

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Speaker 2: All right, ladies, thank you so much, have a great day.

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