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<v Speaker 1>You see something's going to happen.

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<v Speaker 2>What what's going to happen?

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<v Speaker 3>I'll take what.

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<v Speaker 2>Help.

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to the Headless Giant Podcast. I have my guest

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<v Speaker 1>Nick with me from the Occult Rejects. Tell the people

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<v Speaker 1>what you're working on.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm working on much. Oh.

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<v Speaker 4>I can finish a video, actually finished a video documentary

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<v Speaker 4>that will be coming out I think on the thirtieth.

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<v Speaker 4>It's already out on the premiere on YouTube. Yeah, that's

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<v Speaker 4>on today. But today talking about some glyphs. I guess

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<v Speaker 4>a piece of mal it's going good.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I got I got my glyphs, and I got

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<v Speaker 1>a piece of mail. If you guys have any sort

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<v Speaker 1>of strange sort of experiences or is paranormal or cult

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<v Speaker 1>anything that sort of made you go huh, that's bizarre,

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<v Speaker 1>send it to me. If you look at the bottom here,

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<v Speaker 1>it is the Headless Giant Podcast at gmail dot com.

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<v Speaker 1>Send me your stories and I will read them. So

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<v Speaker 1>what's the what's the glyph you got on your mind

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<v Speaker 1>this week?

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<v Speaker 3>Oh?

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<v Speaker 4>All right, well it kind of cheesed out. I figured

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<v Speaker 4>this would be an easy one to go at. The

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<v Speaker 4>only reason I chose it is because I don't think

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<v Speaker 4>most people know that I was the Crawley didn't make

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<v Speaker 4>this symbol, So I don't know if you can pull it.

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<v Speaker 2>I think I did share it with you already, if

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<v Speaker 2>you could pull it up. Fuck yeah, the universal hexagram.

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<v Speaker 2>There we go.

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<v Speaker 4>So the univerersal hexagram is a hexagram or a six

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<v Speaker 4>pointed star that can be traced or drawn unicursally in

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<v Speaker 4>one continuous line rather than two overlaid triangles. The hexagram

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<v Speaker 4>can also be depicted inside of a circle with points

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<v Speaker 4>touching it, and as often depicted in an interlaced form as.

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<v Speaker 3>You can see here.

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<v Speaker 4>I make sure I picked those to where it looks

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<v Speaker 4>like it's kind of uh passing over and under the

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<v Speaker 4>former nine it is also it's a specific instance or

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<v Speaker 4>a far more general shape discussed in in I don't

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<v Speaker 4>even know how to say this Blaze Pascal sixteen thirty

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<v Speaker 4>nine Hexagramum mysticum.

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<v Speaker 3>But uh.

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<v Speaker 4>Giodoro Bruno actually kind of came out with this and

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<v Speaker 4>his work titled Essays upon the Mathematics of Mordente that

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<v Speaker 4>came out and around in Prague in fifteen eighty eight,

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<v Speaker 4>and he was an Italian philosopher and cosmological theorist and

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<v Speaker 4>hermetic occultist who used the unicversal hexagram symbol to represent

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<v Speaker 4>Figura or Morris, figure of love, part of the hermetic trinity,

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<v Speaker 4>and then his mathesis, then eventually in Alista Croles Delima.

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<v Speaker 4>The hexagram is usually depicted with a five pedaled flower

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<v Speaker 4>in the center, which I think I can.

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<v Speaker 2>I think I got that one too. I'll change that

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<v Speaker 2>one for everybody here we go.

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<v Speaker 4>That is the one that also Crowle uses, and only

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<v Speaker 4>with the five pedal flower in the center, which symbolizes

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<v Speaker 4>the pentagram. The hexagram represents the heavenly, microcosmic or planetary forces,

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<v Speaker 4>and is a symbol equivalent to the roscicrucion rose cross

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<v Speaker 4>or ancient Egyptian ankh. The five pedals of the flower

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<v Speaker 4>represent the microcosmic forces of five elements of the magical

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<v Speaker 4>form formula Yeheshua, and is a symbol equivalent to the

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<v Speaker 4>pentagram or pentacle. The two symbols together represent the interweaving

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<v Speaker 4>of the planetary and elemental forces. So yeah, that is

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<v Speaker 4>kind of like where it came from.

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<v Speaker 3>You know.

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<v Speaker 4>Crawley kind of just took it like usual and rebranded it.

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<v Speaker 4>And then one fun fact they did want to throw

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<v Speaker 4>in that I found interesting with this that the Hubble

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<v Speaker 4>telescope the way it uses its mirrors makes the unicorsal

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<v Speaker 4>hexagram figure.

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<v Speaker 3>I throw that little one in there as well.

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<v Speaker 1>That's amazing. Yeah, right, I think for a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>this stuff, people really need to understand how central geometry

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<v Speaker 1>is to practicing magic and having sort of that geometric

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<v Speaker 1>understanding of the world. Can you kind of explain why

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<v Speaker 1>these geometric figures would be so important in doing uh

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<v Speaker 1>ceremonial or ritual magic.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I do think they.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean I think at some point I just think

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<v Speaker 4>the kabala, well, I don't know if the kabala gets

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<v Speaker 4>into it, but maybe the tree is used for it.

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<v Speaker 2>But I do think they actually get into like like

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<v Speaker 2>actual light and reflection and stuff like that. I do

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<v Speaker 2>think occultist may actually get deep into stuff like that.

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<v Speaker 4>So I don't I don't know, I do. I do

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<v Speaker 4>know that also, the lens on your eyeball can also

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<v Speaker 4>start to make kind of like this image as well,

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<v Speaker 4>which is kind of I mean, I have the tattoo,

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<v Speaker 4>but in the middle I have an eyeball instead.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, that's actually kind of appropriate. And Kaid goes into

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<v Speaker 1>the whole venus symbolism too.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Because Venus would the it makes a pentagram in the

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<v Speaker 1>sky over a year or whatever the Venusian year is.

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<v Speaker 1>It creates the flower of not not the flower of life,

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<v Speaker 1>but it creates sort of a multi pedaled, five pedal

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<v Speaker 1>flower in the sky as we're rotating around. And I

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<v Speaker 1>think one of the reasons why it was so you know,

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<v Speaker 1>connected to the idea of vision and beauty and all

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<v Speaker 1>the rest of this stuff is because of the the

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<v Speaker 1>nature of the golden mean. And you can find the

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<v Speaker 1>golden mean in the pedagram, with each one of the

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<v Speaker 1>lines creating the golden ratio to one another. And usually

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<v Speaker 1>when we find something beautiful it fits inside of that

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<v Speaker 1>golden ratio spiral. So having having the whole idea of

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<v Speaker 1>beauty being woven around the kind of morphic field. I've

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<v Speaker 1>been listening to a lot of podcasts from that guy.

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<v Speaker 1>I was sharing it with the group. Oh man, I

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<v Speaker 1>forgot his name. He sounds drake something Drake.

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<v Speaker 3>What's his name? Yeah, checked Shell Drake.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, how did I think it's that? Ye, Rupert Sheldrake.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, So the whole idea of Rupert Sheldrake that he

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<v Speaker 1>loved so much that he shared was the morphic field, right,

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<v Speaker 1>and the morphic field is a very very ancient concept.

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<v Speaker 1>It was the idea that all of this stuff that's

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<v Speaker 1>coming into form has a blueprint that's sort of unseen,

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<v Speaker 1>and as it's revealed, we see it in the in

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<v Speaker 1>the shapes and the forms that come come closer. So

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<v Speaker 1>when you're talking about the flower pedals, how it's five pedaled,

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<v Speaker 1>all of the principles of mathematics are built into that.

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<v Speaker 1>And what you what they do is they're finding these

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<v Speaker 1>golden ratios and stuff to represent the kind of morphic

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<v Speaker 1>field acting on these plants or animals or whatever that

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<v Speaker 1>produces this stuff. And that's why the golden ratio is

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<v Speaker 1>so important. That's why all these geometric figures are so important,

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<v Speaker 1>is because they're tied to the morphic field of life itself.

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<v Speaker 1>And so for the as above so below hexagram, I

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<v Speaker 1>think what that is meant to do is to create

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<v Speaker 1>sort of a sympathetic effect to where you become the bridge,

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<v Speaker 1>or you become the point that now reaches the heavens

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<v Speaker 1>and you know blow, so you become sort of like

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<v Speaker 1>that shining pillar. And so yeah, it would make sense

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<v Speaker 1>why they would use this for a telescope. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>if they are math magicians, they've got that whole thing

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<v Speaker 1>sort of embedded in there. And I think you've also

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<v Speaker 1>got the platonic solids, right, So the platonic solids are

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<v Speaker 1>supposed to be the base level geometry that make up

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<v Speaker 1>everything else. Well, it was discovered in like the fifteen

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<v Speaker 1>hundreds that all the platonic solids can actually fit inside

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<v Speaker 1>of each other without any room between them. And so

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<v Speaker 1>from that mathematical basis, you're talking about the fundamental principles

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<v Speaker 1>of all matter coming out of those solids, and it

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<v Speaker 1>does actually fit. You know, after you put all the

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<v Speaker 1>figures together, you get Metatron's cube, and they're talking about

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<v Speaker 1>Metatron's cube is being connected to these angels and all

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<v Speaker 1>the rest of this stuff. But it all starts as

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<v Speaker 1>geometric principles that are basically expanded outward. And so having

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<v Speaker 1>you know, the Unicersal hexagram, what made it so different

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<v Speaker 1>from just a normal hexagram is that you can complete

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<v Speaker 1>the motion in one hand.

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<v Speaker 3>Swing.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I know another reason why Crowley I think I

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<v Speaker 4>mentioned they liked using it. I think Israel Gardy may

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<v Speaker 4>have said the same thing, is that when you do

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<v Speaker 4>the hexagram, and you want the suns in the middle,

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<v Speaker 4>and if you draw the hexagram the way you draw it,

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<v Speaker 4>you're never going to cross over the middle, and this

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<v Speaker 4>one you actually get to connect it. I mean, you

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<v Speaker 4>mentioned something before about the flyve powered the fly oh

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<v Speaker 4>five pedal flower, and it made me think about how

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<v Speaker 4>you know, I mentioned before that the formula was jeheshua.

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<v Speaker 4>That's actually adding that's taking yad hey vadhe and throwing

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<v Speaker 4>I think like Jesus in there and making it actually

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<v Speaker 4>four to five now, right, because it was four letters technically,

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<v Speaker 4>so right.

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<v Speaker 1>And the four lettered name is called the tetragrammaton, so

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<v Speaker 1>the five lettered name would probably be pent something with

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<v Speaker 1>the pent. But the whole idea there is that they're

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<v Speaker 1>trying to create a more holistic system out of the

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<v Speaker 1>four because, as you know, the the numerology of four

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<v Speaker 1>is pretty cruel, you know, like the four of anything

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<v Speaker 1>is going to be like pretty shitty because it's like

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<v Speaker 1>there's no room to move, there's no you know, it's

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<v Speaker 1>all just hey and write to you. This is the

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<v Speaker 1>way things are. This is reality. This is your punch

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<v Speaker 1>in the face, this is your four. And then the

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<v Speaker 1>five is supposed to bring the spirit in and it's

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<v Speaker 1>it's supposed to be more holistic and more everybody gets

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit of something as opposed to everybody's stuck

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<v Speaker 1>in the cage.

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<v Speaker 3>I'll pull that down though, Oh yeah, I can do

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<v Speaker 3>that nice.

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<v Speaker 4>It's even like, I know there's like another ritual I

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<v Speaker 4>forgot what I think the Rosy gross ritual or something

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<v Speaker 4>that order the golden dorn Uses and it's like kind

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<v Speaker 4>of like a way to like clench your temple.

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<v Speaker 3>And I think you.

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<v Speaker 2>Even use your heeshua instead of yodhey vade.

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<v Speaker 3>Interesting.

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<v Speaker 1>Interesting, yeah, because the yadey vade is very important for

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<v Speaker 1>the pentagram ritual because for the vanishing, what you're doing

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<v Speaker 1>is you're using the yadey Vadhey formula for the four directions.

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<v Speaker 3>Yep.

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<v Speaker 1>And that's what's keeping them away or pulling them in

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<v Speaker 1>based off of how you draw these figures. And really,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't I'm not really satisfied with all these definitions

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<v Speaker 1>of you know, these figures are how he relates to

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<v Speaker 1>geometry because he's not really thinking about it in like

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<v Speaker 1>the Pythagorean way. It's all utilitarian. There's no philosophy behind it,

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<v Speaker 1>which is kind of strange because you would think a

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<v Speaker 1>guy like Crawley, who said that he's against, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>turning occult beliefs into superstitions, you think you'd have more

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<v Speaker 1>about geometry in his works.

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<v Speaker 3>But I think he just wasn't that is.

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<v Speaker 4>True because yeah, because like that, you don't even have

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<v Speaker 4>to claim superstition. That's just like math.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, it's really easy to just start drawing these

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<v Speaker 1>connections and showing people, hey, this is deep psychological work.

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<v Speaker 1>So my cat keeps going for this. She's trying to

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<v Speaker 1>tear it down for some reason. So my glyph for

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<v Speaker 1>this this week is the is it all backwards?

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<v Speaker 2>No, it's good. Oh no, it looks fine to me.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh nice.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, So this is the eye of Horace. And what

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of people maybe didn't realize is that the

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<v Speaker 1>eye of horse was used to communicate different measures of grain. Right,

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<v Speaker 1>So these different parts of the eye would be written

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<v Speaker 1>to indicate what part of a whole measure of grain

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<v Speaker 1>is going to be used. So if you're writing this down,

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<v Speaker 1>you're going to use like the the left part of

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<v Speaker 1>the or the right part of the eye over here

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<v Speaker 1>to represent one sixteenth. So as you're you know, marking

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<v Speaker 1>down how much grain you have. This would be one sixteenth,

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<v Speaker 1>so all the rest of that would be cut out,

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<v Speaker 1>and you're just using the right part of the eye,

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<v Speaker 1>the center part of the eye. That's one fourth. It's

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<v Speaker 1>one fourth a measure of grain. The little curly thing

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<v Speaker 1>at the bottom is one thirty second one sixty fourth

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<v Speaker 1>left part of the eye. What eighth measure is the eyebrow.

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<v Speaker 1>So if you deconstruct the symbol, you get one full

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<v Speaker 1>measure of grain as it comes together. And I think

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<v Speaker 1>that's it's weird, but I think it's somehow connected to

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<v Speaker 3>You know, yeah, yeah, that is.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean even with the grain too. I just feel

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<v Speaker 2>like that's that's a symbol, isn't itself. That's weird. I

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>I feel like there's.

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<v Speaker 3>Something with that.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm like, I'm like literally I was literally googling where

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<v Speaker 4>did the word grain come from? I'm like, this is fun, Like,

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<v Speaker 4>why why are we using grain for the other I

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I think it's interesting too, because it's like the

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<v Speaker 1>grain is something that you are desiring, and the eyes

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<v Speaker 1>what you're using to desire the grain with, and then

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<v Speaker 1>these different parts of that that I of horus are

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<v Speaker 1>used to divide up that measure of grain, and it

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<v Speaker 1>goes into such like small portions, you know, like the

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<v Speaker 1>smallest portion is one sixty fourth of measure of grain.

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<v Speaker 1>Like how much grain would that actually be? Like what's

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<v Speaker 1>the total measure that they're using? Is it like a sheaf?

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<v Speaker 1>Or like, yeah, what was the full measure of grain?

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<v Speaker 1>You know, that's what I want to find out, But

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't find that part out. What I did find

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<v Speaker 1>out is that these are the different parts, and so

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<v Speaker 1>when you deconstruct the figure, you're showing people how much

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<v Speaker 1>you're using. Now, a lot of people say that language

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<v Speaker 1>was created for the Ledger book, right, So the only

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<v Speaker 1>way that you know Sumerians would trade with each other

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<v Speaker 1>is if they had a brick that had everything as

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<v Speaker 1>an inventory on there, going from one person to the next.

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<v Speaker 1>So this is how they would do contracts. Their entire

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<v Speaker 1>society was written on bricks, and most of those bricks

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<v Speaker 1>we haven't even translated and gone through yet, And there's

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<v Speaker 1>some really funny stuff on it because I mean, look,

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<v Speaker 1>how long can your society survive if the way that

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<v Speaker 1>you send letters is also the same way you break windows.

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<v Speaker 1>I know we're one to talk. I mean, look, if

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<v Speaker 1>we can send bricks through the internet to people, we

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<v Speaker 1>fucking would.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh you're right, alets.

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<v Speaker 1>In a lot of ways the way ahead of their

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<v Speaker 1>time while also being you know, very very far back there.

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<v Speaker 1>So tonight in the mail bag?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, I do have one? I can I can pull up?

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<v Speaker 4>Oh yeah, it's more of a I don't know if

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<v Speaker 4>there's really a mail bag, but with somebody Nicholas, somebody

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<v Speaker 4>who hit me up on Instagram and had listened to

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<v Speaker 4>the sleep paralysis and then kind of gave me a

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<v Speaker 4>couple of you know, a couple of paragraphs here of like,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, their experiences and stuff. So I figured I

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<v Speaker 4>could kind of use that. Sure, yeah, you want men

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<v Speaker 4>to go firste alright? Uh hey, just watching your newest episode.

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<v Speaker 4>I used to get sleep paralysis once in a once

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<v Speaker 4>a week when I was on heavy drugs, moved houses

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<v Speaker 4>and changed lifestyle, and it dropped and I stopped. My

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<v Speaker 4>interpretation of it is a psychic attack when you're in

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<v Speaker 4>a dark space and defenses are down. Maybe there is

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<v Speaker 4>an abduction element to some, but definitely not most. I

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<v Speaker 4>also witnessed someone have night terrors. It was actually funny

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<v Speaker 4>as fuck was in He was in a swag in

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<v Speaker 4>the ground and started spinning in circles screaming.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know what the swag means.

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<v Speaker 2>He had been on He had been on meth and

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<v Speaker 2>probably hadn't slept for days. Well, there you go.

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<v Speaker 3>That explains it.

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<v Speaker 4>I dream a lot and try to pay attention. I'm

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<v Speaker 4>pretty sure I have stopped and attack by lucid dreaming

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<v Speaker 4>and waking myself up. I've also realized that I was

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<v Speaker 4>dreaming and fully woke myself up another time. First time

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<v Speaker 4>I did it did it. There wasn't an attack, but

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<v Speaker 4>I remember getting attacked and doing it. I also felt

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<v Speaker 4>like someone trying to attack but I couldn't, but I

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<v Speaker 4>attacked back and win. Hard to tell what it is.

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<v Speaker 4>Sometimes it could be something in my own saychi that

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<v Speaker 4>I've got to overcome. Sometimes could be from other sources.

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<v Speaker 3>That's it interesting. I mean I do find it interesting.

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<v Speaker 2>Drugs. I mean he does mention drugs possibly being the

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<v Speaker 2>reason why, and then somebody else had an experienced.

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<v Speaker 3>And drugs was there.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, it could go unto that figure the as above

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<v Speaker 1>so below you're making yourself a con to it when

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<v Speaker 1>you go certain places, when you open your mind up

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<v Speaker 1>to certain things, and when you take drugs you're becoming

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<v Speaker 1>a con to it as well. And I think we

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<v Speaker 1>are bioelectrical beings and it only makes sense that if

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<v Speaker 1>something's trying to complete that current, it will Yeah. I

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<v Speaker 1>think I was listening to Joe mcmonagall. Have you ever

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<v Speaker 1>heard that guy?

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<v Speaker 2>I've heard of the name. Actually because of the last name.

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<v Speaker 1>They call him remote Viewer one, right, So he was

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<v Speaker 1>brought into the whole operation Stargate and he was talking

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<v Speaker 1>about Yeah, so this guy was like a real deal

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<v Speaker 1>remote viewer. He's done it tons of times on TV

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<v Speaker 1>in front of all the skeptics and everything else. He's

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<v Speaker 1>really proven himself. And he was talking about Mars and

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<v Speaker 1>he was talking about his remote viewing of Mars, which was,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, it's still.

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<v Speaker 4>Sort of I remember this, I remember this. He likes

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<v Speaker 4>covered this moment when we actually did the Gateway projects.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, so his his perception of it was that there

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<v Speaker 1>were these twelve foot tall humanoids that were in these

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<v Speaker 1>sort of stasis pods as Mars was dying. And what's

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<v Speaker 1>interesting is that Mars doesn't have a magnetosphere. So the

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<v Speaker 1>assumption is he was looking at the last couple of

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<v Speaker 1>moments that they were able to keep a stable atmosphere

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<v Speaker 1>before they wanted to go into the stasis form. And

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<v Speaker 1>you know, he correctly identified several large rocks on the

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<v Speaker 1>on the surface of Mars that he claims were once

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<v Speaker 1>like man made structures that were huge, and so the

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<v Speaker 1>photographs he got from JPL confirmed his basic geographic understanding

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<v Speaker 1>that he put out there. So, you know, the Viking

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<v Speaker 1>missions were going on at the time, most people didn't

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<v Speaker 1>see any of the photos, but he went and he

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<v Speaker 1>got the photos after he did the remote viewing, and

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<v Speaker 1>he's like, look, this is it. This is the spot.

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<v Speaker 1>And it was a lot of the same features that

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<v Speaker 1>he had in his remote viewing. So if that's true,

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<v Speaker 1>he thinks that we came from Mars. And so this

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<v Speaker 1>is kind of an interesting thing when it comes to

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<v Speaker 1>like leaving yourself open. You know, maybe there is a

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<v Speaker 1>chance that these ancient kind of spirits still reside kind

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<v Speaker 1>of somewhere on this planet. Because he said in his

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<v Speaker 1>remote viewing that some of the people who were on Mars,

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<v Speaker 1>they came to Earth. Now they're twelve foot tall. What

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<v Speaker 1>does that remind you of? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 3>The giants?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah whatever, right, those giant skeletons they do find.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, So there could be a cross over there too.

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<v Speaker 1>And all I'm saying is that if they had a

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<v Speaker 1>society advanced enough to get here and maintain like this

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<v Speaker 1>sort of spiritual awareness that he claims, they were spiritually

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<v Speaker 1>aware enough to know that Joe mcmonagall was there remote

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<v Speaker 1>viewing them, which is fucking crazy. So if that's the case,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe leaving yourself open and having these night terrors and

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<v Speaker 1>all the rest of this stuff could be related to

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<v Speaker 1>sort of the entities that have kind of I mean, look,

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<v Speaker 1>if there are more psychic beings than we are in

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<v Speaker 1>the universe, why wouldn't they be attacking us. Why wouldn't

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<v Speaker 1>they try to take possession of our bodies? You know,

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<v Speaker 1>that could be a real thing that we have to

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<v Speaker 1>contend with. Is all of these spirits that have died

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<v Speaker 1>millions of years ago that were on a much higher

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<v Speaker 1>psychic level than we are. Just an odd thought, but hey,

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<v Speaker 1>if it works. So I got one from Ishmael says, hi,

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<v Speaker 1>uncle headless, This is my story about going to Brazil

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<v Speaker 1>and staying at trickster celebrity John of God's healing center.

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<v Speaker 1>Holy fuck, I didn't even open this. This is Great

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<v Speaker 1>of God, John of God, Oprah's fucking healer, way before

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<v Speaker 1>he was arrested in twenty nineteen and temporarily put in

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<v Speaker 1>jail after being accused by many women of molestation. I

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<v Speaker 1>was in full operation, so some details are outdated. About

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<v Speaker 1>twenty years ago I went to the spiritual healing center

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<v Speaker 1>known as Casa de Dome in Oscio in an attempt

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<v Speaker 1>to heal a health problem I had. This place is

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<v Speaker 1>run by John of God, the criminal medium healer who

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<v Speaker 1>has been accused by hundreds of women of molestation and

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<v Speaker 1>operating a mafia that intimidates people into silence. I stayed

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<v Speaker 1>there for six months. Six months. John claims that he

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<v Speaker 1>channels dead Brazilian doctors in order to heal people. You

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<v Speaker 1>know what this reminds me of right off the bat,

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<v Speaker 1>Why have you ever heard of the Brazilian spiritualist doctor

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<v Speaker 1>who was They called him Doctor Rusty Knife because he

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<v Speaker 1>would operate on people with rusty equipment and he was

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<v Speaker 1>like he was channeling. Before he did that, he was

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<v Speaker 1>a cabby. And so one day he gets visited by

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<v Speaker 1>the spirit that is this old doctor that you know,

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<v Speaker 1>abuse his body with the ability to operate on people.

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<v Speaker 1>And so he's got this line out the door of

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<v Speaker 1>people who need operations and he's in there operating them

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<v Speaker 1>on them with some rusty ass equipment. Right. Well, I

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<v Speaker 1>don't think this is John of God, but this sounds

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<v Speaker 1>really similar. I gotta look this case up, because holy fuck.

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<v Speaker 1>And this guy was well known everywhere. They tried to

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<v Speaker 1>shut him down, but people kept showing up and he

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<v Speaker 1>didn't have a license. He was just, uh, do you

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<v Speaker 1>guys know who I'm talking about? If you know who

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<v Speaker 1>I'm talking about in the in the chat, go ahead

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<v Speaker 1>and let me know. He has been a cute okay.

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<v Speaker 1>John claims he channels dead Brazilian doctors in order to

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<v Speaker 1>heal people for free. He claims that healing comes from

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<v Speaker 1>God or Deus as it is in Portuguese. People come

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<v Speaker 1>from all over the world to see healing desperate people.

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<v Speaker 1>They wait in line for hours to be assessed by

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<v Speaker 1>John of God, incorporated by one of many of the spirits,

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<v Speaker 1>while others sit in the current room and meditate for

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<v Speaker 1>hours away, listening to the same music by a famous

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<v Speaker 1>Brazilian spinger singer. Spiritual surgeries are conducted that can either

425
00:24:17.200 --> 00:24:21.839
<v Speaker 1>be physically physical or invisible being adventures. I volunteered for

426
00:24:21.880 --> 00:24:26.559
<v Speaker 1>the physical surgery and got the hemostat forceps jabbed.

427
00:24:26.240 --> 00:24:27.000
<v Speaker 3>Up my nose.

428
00:24:27.400 --> 00:24:30.799
<v Speaker 1>There are videos of this on YouTube. Holy shit, I

429
00:24:30.880 --> 00:24:34.359
<v Speaker 1>see this as giving permission to the dark side to

430
00:24:34.440 --> 00:24:37.160
<v Speaker 1>have this done. I blacked out and had to lie

431
00:24:37.200 --> 00:24:40.200
<v Speaker 1>down and recover in a side room. The next day,

432
00:24:40.240 --> 00:24:43.400
<v Speaker 1>I had excruciating pain in the liver area and could

433
00:24:43.440 --> 00:24:47.359
<v Speaker 1>barely walk home. I proceeded to massive amounts of black,

434
00:24:47.400 --> 00:24:49.799
<v Speaker 1>thick liquid and felt like I was going to die.

435
00:24:50.440 --> 00:24:52.640
<v Speaker 1>I was in bed for about a day after that,

436
00:24:53.680 --> 00:24:57.160
<v Speaker 1>convinced they must have cleansed me. Much later on, after

437
00:24:57.200 --> 00:25:00.480
<v Speaker 1>returning home, I realized this was a spiritual attack and

438
00:25:01.880 --> 00:25:05.720
<v Speaker 1>was a real phenomenon. In the old days, it was

439
00:25:05.799 --> 00:25:12.680
<v Speaker 1>known as alo triphaigi ali triphagi, attributed to demonic attacks.

440
00:25:13.119 --> 00:25:18.759
<v Speaker 1>This was a subject in the X Files episode called Sanguinarium.

441
00:25:19.359 --> 00:25:22.400
<v Speaker 1>Years later, I'm dealing with health problems and I know

442
00:25:22.480 --> 00:25:25.279
<v Speaker 1>that giving permission when I volunteered for this ritual is

443
00:25:25.319 --> 00:25:29.240
<v Speaker 1>what allowed it to happen. The physical surgeries involved John

444
00:25:29.319 --> 00:25:33.200
<v Speaker 1>of God's scraping eyes, cutting skin, and using hemostat forceps

445
00:25:33.240 --> 00:25:37.400
<v Speaker 1>to shove up people's noses, all mostly pain free. Doctors

446
00:25:37.400 --> 00:25:41.400
<v Speaker 1>have been baffled at how this is done. Also, entities

447
00:25:41.440 --> 00:25:44.400
<v Speaker 1>are said to be working for the doctors, which are

448
00:25:44.440 --> 00:25:47.720
<v Speaker 1>assigned to every person who has surgery or treatment. These

449
00:25:47.759 --> 00:25:54.839
<v Speaker 1>spirits are really demons called exus Umbla dambla da. Brazilian

450
00:25:54.880 --> 00:25:59.160
<v Speaker 1>black magic children and clairvoyance have been had seen them

451
00:25:59.200 --> 00:26:02.799
<v Speaker 1>as blue tall lights with yellow in the middle. This

452
00:26:02.920 --> 00:26:05.920
<v Speaker 1>place is tranquil and relaxing, and the visitors are all

453
00:26:05.960 --> 00:26:08.720
<v Speaker 1>told to wear only white when they're here. We gotta

454
00:26:08.759 --> 00:26:09.720
<v Speaker 1>get this guy on the show.

455
00:26:09.799 --> 00:26:10.680
<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, why not?

456
00:26:12.119 --> 00:26:15.640
<v Speaker 1>This treatment isn't free. People are wanting healing to have

457
00:26:15.720 --> 00:26:18.920
<v Speaker 1>to pay for special water and passionflower herbs, which is

458
00:26:18.960 --> 00:26:22.759
<v Speaker 1>part of the protocol. NBC and Oprah did specials on it.

459
00:26:24.240 --> 00:26:27.759
<v Speaker 3>Oprah was friends with this dude. Yeah, she pushed this scrap.

460
00:26:28.559 --> 00:26:30.599
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, she pushed all this stuff. She was putting it

461
00:26:30.640 --> 00:26:31.640
<v Speaker 1>on the front of the guarantee.

462
00:26:31.640 --> 00:26:33.920
<v Speaker 2>You she got to cut for his membership going up.

463
00:26:34.880 --> 00:26:37.960
<v Speaker 1>I'm telling you, dude, but here's the thing. It doesn't

464
00:26:38.000 --> 00:26:42.079
<v Speaker 1>mean it wasn't working like for some people it probably was,

465
00:26:42.160 --> 00:26:44.519
<v Speaker 1>but they're you know, these are all based on of

466
00:26:44.559 --> 00:26:50.400
<v Speaker 1>sacrifices and shit. This is very, very old magic. Many

467
00:26:51.200 --> 00:26:55.599
<v Speaker 1>tour groups used to go there. Well, it says Christian

468
00:26:55.680 --> 00:26:58.160
<v Speaker 1>or healer. Well, the truth is he is neither. Many

469
00:26:58.200 --> 00:27:00.599
<v Speaker 1>tour groups used to go there multiple times year, and

470
00:27:00.640 --> 00:27:05.000
<v Speaker 1>the place became spiritual Disneyland until John finally got busted.

471
00:27:05.440 --> 00:27:08.519
<v Speaker 1>This place has been a huge spiritual deception for decades

472
00:27:08.559 --> 00:27:11.480
<v Speaker 1>and it's taken advantage of countless people. I knew two

473
00:27:11.559 --> 00:27:14.599
<v Speaker 1>people who died soon after having gone there. Granted they

474
00:27:14.599 --> 00:27:18.400
<v Speaker 1>were very sick, but the circumstances were suspicious. Many women

475
00:27:18.480 --> 00:27:20.839
<v Speaker 1>have been molested by John of God and no one

476
00:27:20.920 --> 00:27:23.599
<v Speaker 1>will listen to them. A mafia controls the place and

477
00:27:23.720 --> 00:27:27.000
<v Speaker 1>is used to protect the place from exposure. Casa de

478
00:27:27.119 --> 00:27:32.480
<v Speaker 1>Dame Inasio is named after the Bosque founder of the

479
00:27:32.599 --> 00:27:38.759
<v Speaker 1>Jesuit Order, Ignacious Loyola, who, as I understand, was used

480
00:27:38.759 --> 00:27:42.200
<v Speaker 1>by the all power Phoenician oligarchy to infiltrate the Catholic

481
00:27:42.279 --> 00:27:45.440
<v Speaker 1>Church with the Order. Ignacious is also one of the

482
00:27:45.480 --> 00:27:51.279
<v Speaker 1>spirits John of God channels Solomon is another one. My

483
00:27:51.400 --> 00:27:55.279
<v Speaker 1>research found that black magicians would claim that they channeled Solomon.

484
00:27:55.319 --> 00:27:59.640
<v Speaker 1>I'll bet you this guy was a freemason. I have

485
00:27:59.720 --> 00:28:03.359
<v Speaker 1>sinn learned that John of God was a practitioner in

486
00:28:03.559 --> 00:28:07.480
<v Speaker 1>Umbada and operated his own temples in Brazil before transforming

487
00:28:07.559 --> 00:28:11.279
<v Speaker 1>himself into a so called healer medium and camouflaging his

488
00:28:11.359 --> 00:28:15.400
<v Speaker 1>black magic practices in the guise of spiritualism, New Age

489
00:28:15.440 --> 00:28:20.400
<v Speaker 1>concepts and imagery. He has Sephardic, Jewish and Gypsy ordered origins.

490
00:28:20.839 --> 00:28:24.240
<v Speaker 1>There is even a Gypsy line in Umbada, and since

491
00:28:24.279 --> 00:28:27.160
<v Speaker 1>Gypsies had played a large role in Brazilian history due

492
00:28:27.200 --> 00:28:30.279
<v Speaker 1>to being thrown out of Portugal in the sixteen hundreds

493
00:28:30.319 --> 00:28:33.920
<v Speaker 1>and sent there as as happened with other colonial powers

494
00:28:33.960 --> 00:28:37.920
<v Speaker 1>and their respective colonies. He was also involved in a

495
00:28:38.000 --> 00:28:42.960
<v Speaker 1>secret military black operations involved in persecuting political enemies, and

496
00:28:43.039 --> 00:28:46.920
<v Speaker 1>made a fortune operating multiple illegal minds while having his

497
00:28:47.000 --> 00:28:50.640
<v Speaker 1>own mafia involved in other criminal activities. He is still

498
00:28:50.640 --> 00:28:54.000
<v Speaker 1>alive at his home out of jail and suspected of

499
00:28:54.079 --> 00:28:57.680
<v Speaker 1>running his healing center from behind the scenes. If anyone

500
00:28:57.799 --> 00:29:00.359
<v Speaker 1>is interested, they can watch a fallen angel John of

501
00:29:00.440 --> 00:29:05.359
<v Speaker 1>God exposed with Michael beaylot on the New Thinking No

502
00:29:05.559 --> 00:29:09.039
<v Speaker 1>Thinking Aloud, New Thinking Aloud on YouTube channel, and then

503
00:29:09.519 --> 00:29:14.519
<v Speaker 1>I got the link and it goes Cheers Ishmail, Ishmael.

504
00:29:14.519 --> 00:29:16.920
<v Speaker 1>If you are watching this, we got to have you

505
00:29:17.000 --> 00:29:18.880
<v Speaker 1>on the show. Dude. I want to hear this. I

506
00:29:18.880 --> 00:29:23.680
<v Speaker 1>want to hear this first person, dude. And seriously, there

507
00:29:23.759 --> 00:29:27.240
<v Speaker 1>is a guy I know of who could probably hook

508
00:29:27.319 --> 00:29:32.559
<v Speaker 1>you up, because having demons is no fucking joke. I

509
00:29:32.559 --> 00:29:34.839
<v Speaker 1>mean seriously, if that's what he's doing, which it sounds

510
00:29:34.880 --> 00:29:37.160
<v Speaker 1>like that's what he's doing, you got to get that

511
00:29:37.200 --> 00:29:40.279
<v Speaker 1>shit taken care of. You have to use spiritual hygiene,

512
00:29:40.759 --> 00:29:43.680
<v Speaker 1>and I think sound healing is a valid way of

513
00:29:45.079 --> 00:29:47.480
<v Speaker 1>recovering from that kind of stuff and getting rid of

514
00:29:47.519 --> 00:29:54.119
<v Speaker 1>it using the pitchforks. That's not what they're called tuning forks.

515
00:29:55.759 --> 00:29:58.079
<v Speaker 1>You know that's funny because pitch and tuning.

516
00:29:58.799 --> 00:30:04.960
<v Speaker 2>Right, Oh shit, it is a pitchforks, right.

517
00:30:06.160 --> 00:30:11.720
<v Speaker 1>But yeah, dude, check out a guy named Chase. I'll

518
00:30:11.720 --> 00:30:13.720
<v Speaker 1>look him up for you. But he runs a show

519
00:30:13.759 --> 00:30:18.839
<v Speaker 1>on YouTube and he's been posting recently. I know he

520
00:30:18.960 --> 00:30:20.920
<v Speaker 1>just had a kid, but he hooked me up when

521
00:30:20.920 --> 00:30:23.640
<v Speaker 1>I was having problems with a fucking ghost that lived

522
00:30:23.680 --> 00:30:27.039
<v Speaker 1>in my apartment. Really messed me up. But the sound

523
00:30:27.079 --> 00:30:30.920
<v Speaker 1>healing really did fix that stuff. And it was using

524
00:30:31.079 --> 00:30:36.359
<v Speaker 1>tuning forks, and I also do reiki, so I'm not

525
00:30:36.519 --> 00:30:40.440
<v Speaker 1>like foreign to the concepts of energy healing and all

526
00:30:40.480 --> 00:30:43.039
<v Speaker 1>the rest of that stuff. So it was a really

527
00:30:43.039 --> 00:30:46.279
<v Speaker 1>good experience. I'll find his name and send it to

528
00:30:46.359 --> 00:30:51.680
<v Speaker 1>you in a response email, because you gotta get that

529
00:30:51.720 --> 00:30:53.680
<v Speaker 1>shit taken care of. You could die just as easily

530
00:30:53.720 --> 00:30:55.920
<v Speaker 1>from a spiritual affliction as you can't a physical one.

531
00:30:56.000 --> 00:31:00.519
<v Speaker 2>You know, make your life miserable too, Right, It's.

532
00:31:01.200 --> 00:31:05.759
<v Speaker 1>This stuff works, which is scary, right, all that voodoo stuff,

533
00:31:05.839 --> 00:31:07.640
<v Speaker 1>it fucking works.

534
00:31:08.480 --> 00:31:12.240
<v Speaker 4>Something's weird. Yeah, something happened. I do believe that for sure. Yeah,

535
00:31:12.440 --> 00:31:13.839
<v Speaker 4>definitely come on the show Ismail if.

536
00:31:13.799 --> 00:31:17.119
<v Speaker 3>You're listening, please absolutely, So what was your take?

537
00:31:18.640 --> 00:31:22.440
<v Speaker 4>Fucking insane? Uh, it's weird. I was like, you know that,

538
00:31:23.119 --> 00:31:24.839
<v Speaker 4>I was even thinking. I was like, it's just so,

539
00:31:26.079 --> 00:31:27.720
<v Speaker 4>you know, it's weird. How Like I've even kind of

540
00:31:27.720 --> 00:31:29.880
<v Speaker 4>touched on topics on this on the show recently, like

541
00:31:29.880 --> 00:31:32.559
<v Speaker 4>that Vampire Lady and even like tomorrow, I think we

542
00:31:32.599 --> 00:31:37.880
<v Speaker 4>have al file Zo somewhere Costanzo dropping again.

543
00:31:38.480 --> 00:31:43.279
<v Speaker 2>Uh afraid whatever his name was. Uh, and like he was.

544
00:31:43.240 --> 00:31:45.079
<v Speaker 4>Even getting into stuff with like I mean, you know,

545
00:31:45.279 --> 00:31:47.559
<v Speaker 4>kind of like sacrificing and calling and like oh this

546
00:31:47.680 --> 00:31:49.440
<v Speaker 4>and that, or like the people that were you know,

547
00:31:49.480 --> 00:31:51.279
<v Speaker 4>worshiping basically.

548
00:31:52.319 --> 00:31:55.920
<v Speaker 2>Some weird stuff. I don't know, man, it's some creepy shit.

549
00:31:57.680 --> 00:31:59.400
<v Speaker 1>Well, if you think about it, we're all kind of

550
00:31:59.480 --> 00:32:03.039
<v Speaker 1>under a spear when you look at the role money

551
00:32:03.039 --> 00:32:05.200
<v Speaker 1>plays in our society and all the symbols that they

552
00:32:05.240 --> 00:32:08.720
<v Speaker 1>plaster all over it. I mean, you can't make that

553
00:32:08.759 --> 00:32:10.000
<v Speaker 1>ship up. That's a spell.

554
00:32:11.680 --> 00:32:14.079
<v Speaker 4>I mean, I'll have to say, uh, I don't think

555
00:32:14.079 --> 00:32:17.240
<v Speaker 4>the email was probably bullshit. There was things in there

556
00:32:17.279 --> 00:32:19.799
<v Speaker 4>that I didn't know from what I have already watched

557
00:32:19.799 --> 00:32:20.640
<v Speaker 4>of The John of God.

558
00:32:21.440 --> 00:32:21.960
<v Speaker 3>You know I didn't.

559
00:32:22.319 --> 00:32:23.519
<v Speaker 2>I never would have thought. I mean, I guess it

560
00:32:23.640 --> 00:32:24.319
<v Speaker 2>kind of makes sense.

561
00:32:24.319 --> 00:32:26.240
<v Speaker 4>And I'm sure there's always some sort of form of

562
00:32:26.319 --> 00:32:29.079
<v Speaker 4>mafia in a sense, but you know, I never really

563
00:32:29.119 --> 00:32:31.359
<v Speaker 4>like thought of it that way. And the whole I

564
00:32:31.359 --> 00:32:34.119
<v Speaker 4>mean that whole, like I don't know what you would

565
00:32:34.119 --> 00:32:39.720
<v Speaker 4>call it, demon magic, whatever you they fucking with. I

566
00:32:39.839 --> 00:32:42.359
<v Speaker 4>never would have, you know, thought that. I just figured

567
00:32:42.400 --> 00:32:44.359
<v Speaker 4>the guy was just a straight up scam artist. That

568
00:32:44.440 --> 00:32:47.640
<v Speaker 4>was just touching kids. That's what I thought. My theory

569
00:32:47.680 --> 00:32:48.720
<v Speaker 4>on the man, I did not think.

570
00:32:48.599 --> 00:32:49.119
<v Speaker 3>That stuff was.

571
00:32:51.119 --> 00:32:52.839
<v Speaker 4>You know, I didn't think he actually knew anything, and

572
00:32:53.279 --> 00:32:54.960
<v Speaker 4>he knew how to scam people and tell people what

573
00:32:55.119 --> 00:32:56.079
<v Speaker 4>you know, they wanted to hear.

574
00:32:57.799 --> 00:32:59.920
<v Speaker 1>You'd be surprised, dude. Have you ever seen the show

575
00:33:00.599 --> 00:33:02.200
<v Speaker 1>In Search of with Leonard Nimoy?

576
00:33:02.440 --> 00:33:04.920
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, that's old as ship Man.

577
00:33:06.000 --> 00:33:09.160
<v Speaker 1>He did one video where he went to a voodoo

578
00:33:09.240 --> 00:33:15.839
<v Speaker 1>ceremony in Haiti and it was the Blues. I don't

579
00:33:15.839 --> 00:33:19.880
<v Speaker 1>think it was him, he said, he set a camera crew, right,

580
00:33:20.960 --> 00:33:24.839
<v Speaker 1>and so they're watching, is this perfectly blue sky has

581
00:33:24.880 --> 00:33:30.720
<v Speaker 1>a torrential downpour after a voodoo ceremony and you know

582
00:33:30.759 --> 00:33:32.440
<v Speaker 1>they got it on video. There wasn't a cloud in

583
00:33:32.480 --> 00:33:34.920
<v Speaker 1>the sky, and yet they're having this torrential downpour of

584
00:33:35.039 --> 00:33:39.279
<v Speaker 1>water as the voodoo ceremony is over. So it's like

585
00:33:40.240 --> 00:33:44.640
<v Speaker 1>something physical has changed in the environment. Something bizarre is happening.

586
00:33:45.440 --> 00:33:48.079
<v Speaker 1>And so I think, you know, there's a lot of

587
00:33:48.119 --> 00:33:52.119
<v Speaker 1>power in that stuff. It's just it's never public, you know,

588
00:33:52.640 --> 00:33:53.799
<v Speaker 1>never the public stuff.

589
00:33:54.880 --> 00:33:56.640
<v Speaker 4>Well, I even do think believe it in that it's

590
00:33:56.640 --> 00:34:00.480
<v Speaker 4>it through like Noah, I wouldn't say basics science, but

591
00:34:00.559 --> 00:34:04.119
<v Speaker 4>I think like if people start to look at sometimes

592
00:34:04.200 --> 00:34:06.440
<v Speaker 4>or the cloud bust, I mean, if you're really to

593
00:34:06.480 --> 00:34:08.480
<v Speaker 4>get into that, I mean, if I think most people

594
00:34:08.639 --> 00:34:11.519
<v Speaker 4>be really surprised how simple that could kind of actually be.

595
00:34:12.760 --> 00:34:15.000
<v Speaker 4>Sometimes I do wonder if like these old tribes like

596
00:34:15.119 --> 00:34:16.840
<v Speaker 4>somehow like understand through.

597
00:34:16.679 --> 00:34:19.719
<v Speaker 2>Like either sound or whatever they're doing with the music.

598
00:34:20.519 --> 00:34:23.239
<v Speaker 4>And like I do wonder if like they actually understand

599
00:34:23.280 --> 00:34:26.000
<v Speaker 4>to a certain extent that all these things may actually

600
00:34:26.039 --> 00:34:30.039
<v Speaker 4>make it ring, you know what I'm saying in that area,

601
00:34:31.559 --> 00:34:34.039
<v Speaker 4>Like there may actually be like whather modification going on

602
00:34:34.079 --> 00:34:35.960
<v Speaker 4>through the stuff that they're doing, but don't even realize

603
00:34:35.960 --> 00:34:37.159
<v Speaker 4>it to a certain extent.

604
00:34:37.239 --> 00:34:40.679
<v Speaker 1>Right Well, I mean think about Oregon and think about

605
00:34:40.719 --> 00:34:44.719
<v Speaker 1>the Cloudbusters that shit, you know, I mean you could

606
00:34:44.760 --> 00:34:49.519
<v Speaker 1>watch it. And so let's face it, you're there's so

607
00:34:49.599 --> 00:34:51.719
<v Speaker 1>many people out there, like what are the most common

608
00:34:52.159 --> 00:34:56.480
<v Speaker 1>esoteric or you know, kind of mystical powers that people

609
00:34:56.519 --> 00:35:01.199
<v Speaker 1>talk about. Is the ability to burst clouds with their

610
00:35:01.280 --> 00:35:04.119
<v Speaker 1>minds or cause the clouds to move with their minds.

611
00:35:04.400 --> 00:35:08.760
<v Speaker 1>It's one very common thing. And so I think there

612
00:35:08.800 --> 00:35:11.800
<v Speaker 1>is this kind of a connection with the sky. I

613
00:35:11.840 --> 00:35:13.800
<v Speaker 1>mean where did all the gods come from? You know?

614
00:35:17.280 --> 00:35:19.840
<v Speaker 1>I think having that that connection there and being aware

615
00:35:19.880 --> 00:35:24.480
<v Speaker 1>of it is something that it starts to really pick

616
00:35:24.559 --> 00:35:26.719
<v Speaker 1>up when you get into the really heavier states of

617
00:35:26.760 --> 00:35:34.440
<v Speaker 1>psych uh psychological uh distress, and even hypnosis has been

618
00:35:34.760 --> 00:35:41.440
<v Speaker 1>known to cause that people so ritual it up. I mean,

619
00:35:41.480 --> 00:35:43.639
<v Speaker 1>that's that stuff eventually works, you know.

620
00:35:46.719 --> 00:35:48.599
<v Speaker 4>But yeah, that was that was an awesome That was

621
00:35:48.639 --> 00:35:50.840
<v Speaker 4>an awesome email. Did you even know it was all

622
00:35:50.880 --> 00:35:52.000
<v Speaker 4>that before you looked at it?

623
00:35:52.599 --> 00:35:54.760
<v Speaker 1>Didn't even look at it. So once I opened it,

624
00:35:54.800 --> 00:35:56.320
<v Speaker 1>I'm like, gold.

625
00:35:56.920 --> 00:35:59.199
<v Speaker 4>Hey, you're probably like, oh wow, this is alone. Actually

626
00:35:59.320 --> 00:36:03.039
<v Speaker 4>that's why take them and it great. This makes up

627
00:36:03.079 --> 00:36:04.360
<v Speaker 4>on that was like two or three right there.

628
00:36:06.000 --> 00:36:08.360
<v Speaker 1>Clouds are water, you know, and when you're talking about

629
00:36:08.360 --> 00:36:12.400
<v Speaker 1>easy zones, I mean the easy zones form the cloud.

630
00:36:13.119 --> 00:36:13.320
<v Speaker 3>You know.

631
00:36:13.400 --> 00:36:15.960
<v Speaker 1>That's why we have clouds is because of this easy water.

632
00:36:16.079 --> 00:36:19.639
<v Speaker 1>So all of that is electrically charged. So the entire cloud,

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<v Speaker 1>this is why you have lightning coming from clouds. All

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<v Speaker 1>of this stuff is very highly electrically charged. So having

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<v Speaker 1>that being connected to you know, thoughts and energy like that,

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<v Speaker 1>that doesn't surprise me at all. You know, they're like

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<v Speaker 1>brains you know, if you think about it, a cloud

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<v Speaker 1>is kind of like a brain. It's got all the

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<v Speaker 1>synas firing.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I like that. Actually they got of lightning in

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<v Speaker 2>the clouds.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, but uh yeah, So this is a great episode.

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<v Speaker 1>We've got a lot of people. If you guys could

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<v Speaker 1>some email else. You know, we're gonna try and get

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<v Speaker 1>some of these guests on so you can listen to

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<v Speaker 1>them yourselves and that'll be great. So stay with us,

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<v Speaker 1>share the show, like it up, and we'll see you

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<v Speaker 1>again next time.

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<v Speaker 3>Lada Lada,
