Speaker 1: You see something's going to happen.
Speaker 2: What what's going to happen?
Speaker 3: I'll take what.
Speaker 2: Help.
Speaker 1: Welcome to the Headless Giant Podcast. I have my guest
Speaker 1: Nick with me from the Occult Rejects. Tell the people
Speaker 1: what you're working on.
Speaker 2: I'm working on much. Oh.
Speaker 4: I can finish a video, actually finished a video documentary
Speaker 4: that will be coming out I think on the thirtieth.
Speaker 4: It's already out on the premiere on YouTube. Yeah, that's
Speaker 4: on today. But today talking about some glyphs. I guess
Speaker 4: a piece of mal it's going good.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I got I got my glyphs, and I got
Speaker 1: a piece of mail. If you guys have any sort
Speaker 1: of strange sort of experiences or is paranormal or cult
Speaker 1: anything that sort of made you go huh, that's bizarre,
Speaker 1: send it to me. If you look at the bottom here,
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Speaker 1: Send me your stories and I will read them. So
Speaker 1: what's the what's the glyph you got on your mind
Speaker 1: this week?
Speaker 3: Oh?
Speaker 4: All right, well it kind of cheesed out. I figured
Speaker 4: this would be an easy one to go at. The
Speaker 4: only reason I chose it is because I don't think
Speaker 4: most people know that I was the Crawley didn't make
Speaker 4: this symbol, So I don't know if you can pull it.
Speaker 2: I think I did share it with you already, if
Speaker 2: you could pull it up. Fuck yeah, the universal hexagram.
Speaker 2: There we go.
Speaker 4: So the univerersal hexagram is a hexagram or a six
Speaker 4: pointed star that can be traced or drawn unicursally in
Speaker 4: one continuous line rather than two overlaid triangles. The hexagram
Speaker 4: can also be depicted inside of a circle with points
Speaker 4: touching it, and as often depicted in an interlaced form as.
Speaker 3: You can see here.
Speaker 4: I make sure I picked those to where it looks
Speaker 4: like it's kind of uh passing over and under the
Speaker 4: former nine it is also it's a specific instance or
Speaker 4: a far more general shape discussed in in I don't
Speaker 4: even know how to say this Blaze Pascal sixteen thirty
Speaker 4: nine Hexagramum mysticum.
Speaker 3: But uh.
Speaker 4: Giodoro Bruno actually kind of came out with this and
Speaker 4: his work titled Essays upon the Mathematics of Mordente that
Speaker 4: came out and around in Prague in fifteen eighty eight,
Speaker 4: and he was an Italian philosopher and cosmological theorist and
Speaker 4: hermetic occultist who used the unicversal hexagram symbol to represent
Speaker 4: Figura or Morris, figure of love, part of the hermetic trinity,
Speaker 4: and then his mathesis, then eventually in Alista Croles Delima.
Speaker 4: The hexagram is usually depicted with a five pedaled flower
Speaker 4: in the center, which I think I can.
Speaker 2: I think I got that one too. I'll change that
Speaker 2: one for everybody here we go.
Speaker 4: That is the one that also Crowle uses, and only
Speaker 4: with the five pedal flower in the center, which symbolizes
Speaker 4: the pentagram. The hexagram represents the heavenly, microcosmic or planetary forces,
Speaker 4: and is a symbol equivalent to the roscicrucion rose cross
Speaker 4: or ancient Egyptian ankh. The five pedals of the flower
Speaker 4: represent the microcosmic forces of five elements of the magical
Speaker 4: form formula Yeheshua, and is a symbol equivalent to the
Speaker 4: pentagram or pentacle. The two symbols together represent the interweaving
Speaker 4: of the planetary and elemental forces. So yeah, that is
Speaker 4: kind of like where it came from.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 4: Crawley kind of just took it like usual and rebranded it.
Speaker 4: And then one fun fact they did want to throw
Speaker 4: in that I found interesting with this that the Hubble
Speaker 4: telescope the way it uses its mirrors makes the unicorsal
Speaker 4: hexagram figure.
Speaker 3: I throw that little one in there as well.
Speaker 1: That's amazing. Yeah, right, I think for a lot of
Speaker 1: this stuff, people really need to understand how central geometry
Speaker 1: is to practicing magic and having sort of that geometric
Speaker 1: understanding of the world. Can you kind of explain why
Speaker 1: these geometric figures would be so important in doing uh
Speaker 1: ceremonial or ritual magic.
Speaker 2: Well, I do think they.
Speaker 4: I mean I think at some point I just think
Speaker 4: the kabala, well, I don't know if the kabala gets
Speaker 4: into it, but maybe the tree is used for it.
Speaker 2: But I do think they actually get into like like
Speaker 2: actual light and reflection and stuff like that. I do
Speaker 2: think occultist may actually get deep into stuff like that.
Speaker 4: So I don't I don't know, I do. I do
Speaker 4: know that also, the lens on your eyeball can also
Speaker 4: start to make kind of like this image as well,
Speaker 4: which is kind of I mean, I have the tattoo,
Speaker 4: but in the middle I have an eyeball instead.
Speaker 1: Well, that's actually kind of appropriate. And Kaid goes into
Speaker 1: the whole venus symbolism too.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1: Because Venus would the it makes a pentagram in the
Speaker 1: sky over a year or whatever the Venusian year is.
Speaker 1: It creates the flower of not not the flower of life,
Speaker 1: but it creates sort of a multi pedaled, five pedal
Speaker 1: flower in the sky as we're rotating around. And I
Speaker 1: think one of the reasons why it was so you know,
Speaker 1: connected to the idea of vision and beauty and all
Speaker 1: the rest of this stuff is because of the the
Speaker 1: nature of the golden mean. And you can find the
Speaker 1: golden mean in the pedagram, with each one of the
Speaker 1: lines creating the golden ratio to one another. And usually
Speaker 1: when we find something beautiful it fits inside of that
Speaker 1: golden ratio spiral. So having having the whole idea of
Speaker 1: beauty being woven around the kind of morphic field. I've
Speaker 1: been listening to a lot of podcasts from that guy.
Speaker 1: I was sharing it with the group. Oh man, I
Speaker 1: forgot his name. He sounds drake something Drake.
Speaker 3: What's his name? Yeah, checked Shell Drake.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, how did I think it's that? Ye, Rupert Sheldrake.
Speaker 1: Right, So the whole idea of Rupert Sheldrake that he
Speaker 1: loved so much that he shared was the morphic field, right,
Speaker 1: and the morphic field is a very very ancient concept.
Speaker 1: It was the idea that all of this stuff that's
Speaker 1: coming into form has a blueprint that's sort of unseen,
Speaker 1: and as it's revealed, we see it in the in
Speaker 1: the shapes and the forms that come come closer. So
Speaker 1: when you're talking about the flower pedals, how it's five pedaled,
Speaker 1: all of the principles of mathematics are built into that.
Speaker 1: And what you what they do is they're finding these
Speaker 1: golden ratios and stuff to represent the kind of morphic
Speaker 1: field acting on these plants or animals or whatever that
Speaker 1: produces this stuff. And that's why the golden ratio is
Speaker 1: so important. That's why all these geometric figures are so important,
Speaker 1: is because they're tied to the morphic field of life itself.
Speaker 1: And so for the as above so below hexagram, I
Speaker 1: think what that is meant to do is to create
Speaker 1: sort of a sympathetic effect to where you become the bridge,
Speaker 1: or you become the point that now reaches the heavens
Speaker 1: and you know blow, so you become sort of like
Speaker 1: that shining pillar. And so yeah, it would make sense
Speaker 1: why they would use this for a telescope. You know,
Speaker 1: if they are math magicians, they've got that whole thing
Speaker 1: sort of embedded in there. And I think you've also
Speaker 1: got the platonic solids, right, So the platonic solids are
Speaker 1: supposed to be the base level geometry that make up
Speaker 1: everything else. Well, it was discovered in like the fifteen
Speaker 1: hundreds that all the platonic solids can actually fit inside
Speaker 1: of each other without any room between them. And so
Speaker 1: from that mathematical basis, you're talking about the fundamental principles
Speaker 1: of all matter coming out of those solids, and it
Speaker 1: does actually fit. You know, after you put all the
Speaker 1: figures together, you get Metatron's cube, and they're talking about
Speaker 1: Metatron's cube is being connected to these angels and all
Speaker 1: the rest of this stuff. But it all starts as
Speaker 1: geometric principles that are basically expanded outward. And so having
Speaker 1: you know, the Unicersal hexagram, what made it so different
Speaker 1: from just a normal hexagram is that you can complete
Speaker 1: the motion in one hand.
Speaker 3: Swing.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I know another reason why Crowley I think I
Speaker 4: mentioned they liked using it. I think Israel Gardy may
Speaker 4: have said the same thing, is that when you do
Speaker 4: the hexagram, and you want the suns in the middle,
Speaker 4: and if you draw the hexagram the way you draw it,
Speaker 4: you're never going to cross over the middle, and this
Speaker 4: one you actually get to connect it. I mean, you
Speaker 4: mentioned something before about the flyve powered the fly oh
Speaker 4: five pedal flower, and it made me think about how
Speaker 4: you know, I mentioned before that the formula was jeheshua.
Speaker 4: That's actually adding that's taking yad hey vadhe and throwing
Speaker 4: I think like Jesus in there and making it actually
Speaker 4: four to five now, right, because it was four letters technically,
Speaker 4: so right.
Speaker 1: And the four lettered name is called the tetragrammaton, so
Speaker 1: the five lettered name would probably be pent something with
Speaker 1: the pent. But the whole idea there is that they're
Speaker 1: trying to create a more holistic system out of the
Speaker 1: four because, as you know, the the numerology of four
Speaker 1: is pretty cruel, you know, like the four of anything
Speaker 1: is going to be like pretty shitty because it's like
Speaker 1: there's no room to move, there's no you know, it's
Speaker 1: all just hey and write to you. This is the
Speaker 1: way things are. This is reality. This is your punch
Speaker 1: in the face, this is your four. And then the
Speaker 1: five is supposed to bring the spirit in and it's
Speaker 1: it's supposed to be more holistic and more everybody gets
Speaker 1: a little bit of something as opposed to everybody's stuck
Speaker 1: in the cage.
Speaker 3: I'll pull that down though, Oh yeah, I can do
Speaker 3: that nice.
Speaker 4: It's even like, I know there's like another ritual I
Speaker 4: forgot what I think the Rosy gross ritual or something
Speaker 4: that order the golden dorn Uses and it's like kind
Speaker 4: of like a way to like clench your temple.
Speaker 3: And I think you.
Speaker 2: Even use your heeshua instead of yodhey vade.
Speaker 3: Interesting.
Speaker 1: Interesting, yeah, because the yadey vade is very important for
Speaker 1: the pentagram ritual because for the vanishing, what you're doing
Speaker 1: is you're using the yadey Vadhey formula for the four directions.
Speaker 3: Yep.
Speaker 1: And that's what's keeping them away or pulling them in
Speaker 1: based off of how you draw these figures. And really,
Speaker 1: I don't I'm not really satisfied with all these definitions
Speaker 1: of you know, these figures are how he relates to
Speaker 1: geometry because he's not really thinking about it in like
Speaker 1: the Pythagorean way. It's all utilitarian. There's no philosophy behind it,
Speaker 1: which is kind of strange because you would think a
Speaker 1: guy like Crawley, who said that he's against, you know,
Speaker 1: turning occult beliefs into superstitions, you think you'd have more
Speaker 1: about geometry in his works.
Speaker 3: But I think he just wasn't that is.
Speaker 4: True because yeah, because like that, you don't even have
Speaker 4: to claim superstition. That's just like math.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, it's really easy to just start drawing these
Speaker 1: connections and showing people, hey, this is deep psychological work.
Speaker 1: So my cat keeps going for this. She's trying to
Speaker 1: tear it down for some reason. So my glyph for
Speaker 1: this this week is the is it all backwards?
Speaker 2: No, it's good. Oh no, it looks fine to me.
Speaker 3: Oh nice.
Speaker 1: Okay, So this is the eye of Horace. And what
Speaker 1: a lot of people maybe didn't realize is that the
Speaker 1: eye of horse was used to communicate different measures of grain. Right,
Speaker 1: So these different parts of the eye would be written
Speaker 1: to indicate what part of a whole measure of grain
Speaker 1: is going to be used. So if you're writing this down,
Speaker 1: you're going to use like the the left part of
Speaker 1: the or the right part of the eye over here
Speaker 1: to represent one sixteenth. So as you're you know, marking
Speaker 1: down how much grain you have. This would be one sixteenth,
Speaker 1: so all the rest of that would be cut out,
Speaker 1: and you're just using the right part of the eye,
Speaker 1: the center part of the eye. That's one fourth. It's
Speaker 1: one fourth a measure of grain. The little curly thing
Speaker 1: at the bottom is one thirty second one sixty fourth
Speaker 1: is ray. Here half a measure of grain is the
Speaker 1: left part of the eye. What eighth measure is the eyebrow.
Speaker 1: So if you deconstruct the symbol, you get one full
Speaker 1: measure of grain as it comes together. And I think
Speaker 1: that's it's weird, but I think it's somehow connected to
Speaker 1: magic in some way.
Speaker 3: You know, yeah, yeah, that is.
Speaker 2: I mean even with the grain too. I just feel
Speaker 2: like that's that's a symbol, isn't itself. That's weird. I
Speaker 2: had no idea that that went by like a measurement
Speaker 2: of grain.
Speaker 3: I don't know.
Speaker 2: I feel like there's.
Speaker 3: Something with that.
Speaker 4: I'm like, I'm like literally I was literally googling where
Speaker 4: did the word grain come from? I'm like, this is fun, Like,
Speaker 4: why why are we using grain for the other I
Speaker 4: don't know.
Speaker 1: Well, I think it's interesting too, because it's like the
Speaker 1: grain is something that you are desiring, and the eyes
Speaker 1: what you're using to desire the grain with, and then
Speaker 1: these different parts of that that I of horus are
Speaker 1: used to divide up that measure of grain, and it
Speaker 1: goes into such like small portions, you know, like the
Speaker 1: smallest portion is one sixty fourth of measure of grain.
Speaker 1: Like how much grain would that actually be? Like what's
Speaker 1: the total measure that they're using? Is it like a sheaf?
Speaker 1: Or like, yeah, what was the full measure of grain?
Speaker 1: You know, that's what I want to find out, But
Speaker 1: I didn't find that part out. What I did find
Speaker 1: out is that these are the different parts, and so
Speaker 1: when you deconstruct the figure, you're showing people how much
Speaker 1: you're using. Now, a lot of people say that language
Speaker 1: was created for the Ledger book, right, So the only
Speaker 1: way that you know Sumerians would trade with each other
Speaker 1: is if they had a brick that had everything as
Speaker 1: an inventory on there, going from one person to the next.
Speaker 1: So this is how they would do contracts. Their entire
Speaker 1: society was written on bricks, and most of those bricks
Speaker 1: we haven't even translated and gone through yet, And there's
Speaker 1: some really funny stuff on it because I mean, look,
Speaker 1: how long can your society survive if the way that
Speaker 1: you send letters is also the same way you break windows.
Speaker 1: I know we're one to talk. I mean, look, if
Speaker 1: we can send bricks through the internet to people, we
Speaker 1: fucking would.
Speaker 2: Oh you're right, alets.
Speaker 1: In a lot of ways the way ahead of their
Speaker 1: time while also being you know, very very far back there.
Speaker 1: So tonight in the mail bag?
Speaker 2: Oh, I do have one? I can I can pull up?
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, it's more of a I don't know if
Speaker 4: there's really a mail bag, but with somebody Nicholas, somebody
Speaker 4: who hit me up on Instagram and had listened to
Speaker 4: the sleep paralysis and then kind of gave me a
Speaker 4: couple of you know, a couple of paragraphs here of like,
Speaker 4: you know, their experiences and stuff. So I figured I
Speaker 4: could kind of use that. Sure, yeah, you want men
Speaker 4: to go firste alright? Uh hey, just watching your newest episode.
Speaker 4: I used to get sleep paralysis once in a once
Speaker 4: a week when I was on heavy drugs, moved houses
Speaker 4: and changed lifestyle, and it dropped and I stopped. My
Speaker 4: interpretation of it is a psychic attack when you're in
Speaker 4: a dark space and defenses are down. Maybe there is
Speaker 4: an abduction element to some, but definitely not most. I
Speaker 4: also witnessed someone have night terrors. It was actually funny
Speaker 4: as fuck was in He was in a swag in
Speaker 4: the ground and started spinning in circles screaming.
Speaker 3: I don't know what the swag means.
Speaker 2: He had been on He had been on meth and
Speaker 2: probably hadn't slept for days. Well, there you go.
Speaker 3: That explains it.
Speaker 4: I dream a lot and try to pay attention. I'm
Speaker 4: pretty sure I have stopped and attack by lucid dreaming
Speaker 4: and waking myself up. I've also realized that I was
Speaker 4: dreaming and fully woke myself up another time. First time
Speaker 4: I did it did it. There wasn't an attack, but
Speaker 4: I remember getting attacked and doing it. I also felt
Speaker 4: like someone trying to attack but I couldn't, but I
Speaker 4: attacked back and win. Hard to tell what it is.
Speaker 4: Sometimes it could be something in my own saychi that
Speaker 4: I've got to overcome. Sometimes could be from other sources.
Speaker 3: That's it interesting. I mean I do find it interesting.
Speaker 2: Drugs. I mean he does mention drugs possibly being the
Speaker 2: reason why, and then somebody else had an experienced.
Speaker 3: And drugs was there.
Speaker 1: Well, it could go unto that figure the as above
Speaker 1: so below you're making yourself a con to it when
Speaker 1: you go certain places, when you open your mind up
Speaker 1: to certain things, and when you take drugs you're becoming
Speaker 1: a con to it as well. And I think we
Speaker 1: are bioelectrical beings and it only makes sense that if
Speaker 1: something's trying to complete that current, it will Yeah. I
Speaker 1: think I was listening to Joe mcmonagall. Have you ever
Speaker 1: heard that guy?
Speaker 2: I've heard of the name. Actually because of the last name.
Speaker 1: They call him remote Viewer one, right, So he was
Speaker 1: brought into the whole operation Stargate and he was talking
Speaker 1: about Yeah, so this guy was like a real deal
Speaker 1: remote viewer. He's done it tons of times on TV
Speaker 1: in front of all the skeptics and everything else. He's
Speaker 1: really proven himself. And he was talking about Mars and
Speaker 1: he was talking about his remote viewing of Mars, which was,
Speaker 1: you know, it's still.
Speaker 4: Sort of I remember this, I remember this. He likes
Speaker 4: covered this moment when we actually did the Gateway projects.
Speaker 1: Yes, so his his perception of it was that there
Speaker 1: were these twelve foot tall humanoids that were in these
Speaker 1: sort of stasis pods as Mars was dying. And what's
Speaker 1: interesting is that Mars doesn't have a magnetosphere. So the
Speaker 1: assumption is he was looking at the last couple of
Speaker 1: moments that they were able to keep a stable atmosphere
Speaker 1: before they wanted to go into the stasis form. And
Speaker 1: you know, he correctly identified several large rocks on the
Speaker 1: on the surface of Mars that he claims were once
Speaker 1: like man made structures that were huge, and so the
Speaker 1: photographs he got from JPL confirmed his basic geographic understanding
Speaker 1: that he put out there. So, you know, the Viking
Speaker 1: missions were going on at the time, most people didn't
Speaker 1: see any of the photos, but he went and he
Speaker 1: got the photos after he did the remote viewing, and
Speaker 1: he's like, look, this is it. This is the spot.
Speaker 1: And it was a lot of the same features that
Speaker 1: he had in his remote viewing. So if that's true,
Speaker 1: he thinks that we came from Mars. And so this
Speaker 1: is kind of an interesting thing when it comes to
Speaker 1: like leaving yourself open. You know, maybe there is a
Speaker 1: chance that these ancient kind of spirits still reside kind
Speaker 1: of somewhere on this planet. Because he said in his
Speaker 1: remote viewing that some of the people who were on Mars,
Speaker 1: they came to Earth. Now they're twelve foot tall. What
Speaker 1: does that remind you of? Yeah?
Speaker 3: The giants?
Speaker 4: Yeah whatever, right, those giant skeletons they do find.
Speaker 1: Right, So there could be a cross over there too.
Speaker 1: And all I'm saying is that if they had a
Speaker 1: society advanced enough to get here and maintain like this
Speaker 1: sort of spiritual awareness that he claims, they were spiritually
Speaker 1: aware enough to know that Joe mcmonagall was there remote
Speaker 1: viewing them, which is fucking crazy. So if that's the case,
Speaker 1: maybe leaving yourself open and having these night terrors and
Speaker 1: all the rest of this stuff could be related to
Speaker 1: sort of the entities that have kind of I mean, look,
Speaker 1: if there are more psychic beings than we are in
Speaker 1: the universe, why wouldn't they be attacking us. Why wouldn't
Speaker 1: they try to take possession of our bodies? You know,
Speaker 1: that could be a real thing that we have to
Speaker 1: contend with. Is all of these spirits that have died
Speaker 1: millions of years ago that were on a much higher
Speaker 1: psychic level than we are. Just an odd thought, but hey,
Speaker 1: if it works. So I got one from Ishmael says, hi,
Speaker 1: uncle headless, This is my story about going to Brazil
Speaker 1: and staying at trickster celebrity John of God's healing center.
Speaker 1: Holy fuck, I didn't even open this. This is Great
Speaker 1: of God, John of God, Oprah's fucking healer, way before
Speaker 1: he was arrested in twenty nineteen and temporarily put in
Speaker 1: jail after being accused by many women of molestation. I
Speaker 1: write some of this before the arrest, when the place
Speaker 1: was in full operation, so some details are outdated. About
Speaker 1: twenty years ago I went to the spiritual healing center
Speaker 1: known as Casa de Dome in Oscio in an attempt
Speaker 1: to heal a health problem I had. This place is
Speaker 1: run by John of God, the criminal medium healer who
Speaker 1: has been accused by hundreds of women of molestation and
Speaker 1: operating a mafia that intimidates people into silence. I stayed
Speaker 1: there for six months. Six months. John claims that he
Speaker 1: channels dead Brazilian doctors in order to heal people. You
Speaker 1: know what this reminds me of right off the bat,
Speaker 1: Why have you ever heard of the Brazilian spiritualist doctor
Speaker 1: who was They called him Doctor Rusty Knife because he
Speaker 1: would operate on people with rusty equipment and he was
Speaker 1: like he was channeling. Before he did that, he was
Speaker 1: a cabby. And so one day he gets visited by
Speaker 1: the spirit that is this old doctor that you know,
Speaker 1: abuse his body with the ability to operate on people.
Speaker 1: And so he's got this line out the door of
Speaker 1: people who need operations and he's in there operating them
Speaker 1: on them with some rusty ass equipment. Right. Well, I
Speaker 1: don't think this is John of God, but this sounds
Speaker 1: really similar. I gotta look this case up, because holy fuck.
Speaker 1: And this guy was well known everywhere. They tried to
Speaker 1: shut him down, but people kept showing up and he
Speaker 1: didn't have a license. He was just, uh, do you
Speaker 1: guys know who I'm talking about? If you know who
Speaker 1: I'm talking about in the in the chat, go ahead
Speaker 1: and let me know. He has been a cute okay.
Speaker 1: John claims he channels dead Brazilian doctors in order to
Speaker 1: heal people for free. He claims that healing comes from
Speaker 1: God or Deus as it is in Portuguese. People come
Speaker 1: from all over the world to see healing desperate people.
Speaker 1: They wait in line for hours to be assessed by
Speaker 1: John of God, incorporated by one of many of the spirits,
Speaker 1: while others sit in the current room and meditate for
Speaker 1: hours away, listening to the same music by a famous
Speaker 1: Brazilian spinger singer. Spiritual surgeries are conducted that can either
Speaker 1: be physically physical or invisible being adventures. I volunteered for
Speaker 1: the physical surgery and got the hemostat forceps jabbed.
Speaker 3: Up my nose.
Speaker 1: There are videos of this on YouTube. Holy shit, I
Speaker 1: see this as giving permission to the dark side to
Speaker 1: have this done. I blacked out and had to lie
Speaker 1: down and recover in a side room. The next day,
Speaker 1: I had excruciating pain in the liver area and could
Speaker 1: barely walk home. I proceeded to massive amounts of black,
Speaker 1: thick liquid and felt like I was going to die.
Speaker 1: I was in bed for about a day after that,
Speaker 1: convinced they must have cleansed me. Much later on, after
Speaker 1: returning home, I realized this was a spiritual attack and
Speaker 1: was a real phenomenon. In the old days, it was
Speaker 1: known as alo triphaigi ali triphagi, attributed to demonic attacks.
Speaker 1: This was a subject in the X Files episode called Sanguinarium.
Speaker 1: Years later, I'm dealing with health problems and I know
Speaker 1: that giving permission when I volunteered for this ritual is
Speaker 1: what allowed it to happen. The physical surgeries involved John
Speaker 1: of God's scraping eyes, cutting skin, and using hemostat forceps
Speaker 1: to shove up people's noses, all mostly pain free. Doctors
Speaker 1: have been baffled at how this is done. Also, entities
Speaker 1: are said to be working for the doctors, which are
Speaker 1: assigned to every person who has surgery or treatment. These
Speaker 1: spirits are really demons called exus Umbla dambla da. Brazilian
Speaker 1: black magic children and clairvoyance have been had seen them
Speaker 1: as blue tall lights with yellow in the middle. This
Speaker 1: place is tranquil and relaxing, and the visitors are all
Speaker 1: told to wear only white when they're here. We gotta
Speaker 1: get this guy on the show.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, why not?
Speaker 1: This treatment isn't free. People are wanting healing to have
Speaker 1: to pay for special water and passionflower herbs, which is
Speaker 1: part of the protocol. NBC and Oprah did specials on it.
Speaker 3: Oprah was friends with this dude. Yeah, she pushed this scrap.
Speaker 1: Yeah, she pushed all this stuff. She was putting it
Speaker 1: on the front of the guarantee.
Speaker 2: You she got to cut for his membership going up.
Speaker 1: I'm telling you, dude, but here's the thing. It doesn't
Speaker 1: mean it wasn't working like for some people it probably was,
Speaker 1: but they're you know, these are all based on of
Speaker 1: sacrifices and shit. This is very, very old magic. Many
Speaker 1: tour groups used to go there. Well, it says Christian
Speaker 1: or healer. Well, the truth is he is neither. Many
Speaker 1: tour groups used to go there multiple times year, and
Speaker 1: the place became spiritual Disneyland until John finally got busted.
Speaker 1: This place has been a huge spiritual deception for decades
Speaker 1: and it's taken advantage of countless people. I knew two
Speaker 1: people who died soon after having gone there. Granted they
Speaker 1: were very sick, but the circumstances were suspicious. Many women
Speaker 1: have been molested by John of God and no one
Speaker 1: will listen to them. A mafia controls the place and
Speaker 1: is used to protect the place from exposure. Casa de
Speaker 1: Dame Inasio is named after the Bosque founder of the
Speaker 1: Jesuit Order, Ignacious Loyola, who, as I understand, was used
Speaker 1: by the all power Phoenician oligarchy to infiltrate the Catholic
Speaker 1: Church with the Order. Ignacious is also one of the
Speaker 1: spirits John of God channels Solomon is another one. My
Speaker 1: research found that black magicians would claim that they channeled Solomon.
Speaker 1: I'll bet you this guy was a freemason. I have
Speaker 1: sinn learned that John of God was a practitioner in
Speaker 1: Umbada and operated his own temples in Brazil before transforming
Speaker 1: himself into a so called healer medium and camouflaging his
Speaker 1: black magic practices in the guise of spiritualism, New Age
Speaker 1: concepts and imagery. He has Sephardic, Jewish and Gypsy ordered origins.
Speaker 1: There is even a Gypsy line in Umbada, and since
Speaker 1: Gypsies had played a large role in Brazilian history due
Speaker 1: to being thrown out of Portugal in the sixteen hundreds
Speaker 1: and sent there as as happened with other colonial powers
Speaker 1: and their respective colonies. He was also involved in a
Speaker 1: secret military black operations involved in persecuting political enemies, and
Speaker 1: made a fortune operating multiple illegal minds while having his
Speaker 1: own mafia involved in other criminal activities. He is still
Speaker 1: alive at his home out of jail and suspected of
Speaker 1: running his healing center from behind the scenes. If anyone
Speaker 1: is interested, they can watch a fallen angel John of
Speaker 1: God exposed with Michael beaylot on the New Thinking No
Speaker 1: Thinking Aloud, New Thinking Aloud on YouTube channel, and then
Speaker 1: I got the link and it goes Cheers Ishmail, Ishmael.
Speaker 1: If you are watching this, we got to have you
Speaker 1: on the show. Dude. I want to hear this. I
Speaker 1: want to hear this first person, dude. And seriously, there
Speaker 1: is a guy I know of who could probably hook
Speaker 1: you up, because having demons is no fucking joke. I
Speaker 1: mean seriously, if that's what he's doing, which it sounds
Speaker 1: like that's what he's doing, you got to get that
Speaker 1: shit taken care of. You have to use spiritual hygiene,
Speaker 1: and I think sound healing is a valid way of
Speaker 1: recovering from that kind of stuff and getting rid of
Speaker 1: it using the pitchforks. That's not what they're called tuning forks.
Speaker 1: You know that's funny because pitch and tuning.
Speaker 2: Right, Oh shit, it is a pitchforks, right.
Speaker 1: But yeah, dude, check out a guy named Chase. I'll
Speaker 1: look him up for you. But he runs a show
Speaker 1: on YouTube and he's been posting recently. I know he
Speaker 1: just had a kid, but he hooked me up when
Speaker 1: I was having problems with a fucking ghost that lived
Speaker 1: in my apartment. Really messed me up. But the sound
Speaker 1: healing really did fix that stuff. And it was using
Speaker 1: tuning forks, and I also do reiki, so I'm not
Speaker 1: like foreign to the concepts of energy healing and all
Speaker 1: the rest of that stuff. So it was a really
Speaker 1: good experience. I'll find his name and send it to
Speaker 1: you in a response email, because you gotta get that
Speaker 1: shit taken care of. You could die just as easily
Speaker 1: from a spiritual affliction as you can't a physical one.
Speaker 2: You know, make your life miserable too, Right, It's.
Speaker 1: This stuff works, which is scary, right, all that voodoo stuff,
Speaker 1: it fucking works.
Speaker 4: Something's weird. Yeah, something happened. I do believe that for sure. Yeah,
Speaker 4: definitely come on the show Ismail if.
Speaker 3: You're listening, please absolutely, So what was your take?
Speaker 4: Fucking insane? Uh, it's weird. I was like, you know that,
Speaker 4: I was even thinking. I was like, it's just so,
Speaker 4: you know, it's weird. How Like I've even kind of
Speaker 4: touched on topics on this on the show recently, like
Speaker 4: that Vampire Lady and even like tomorrow, I think we
Speaker 4: have al file Zo somewhere Costanzo dropping again.
Speaker 2: Uh afraid whatever his name was. Uh, and like he was.
Speaker 4: Even getting into stuff with like I mean, you know,
Speaker 4: kind of like sacrificing and calling and like oh this
Speaker 4: and that, or like the people that were you know,
Speaker 4: worshiping basically.
Speaker 2: Some weird stuff. I don't know, man, it's some creepy shit.
Speaker 1: Well, if you think about it, we're all kind of
Speaker 1: under a spear when you look at the role money
Speaker 1: plays in our society and all the symbols that they
Speaker 1: plaster all over it. I mean, you can't make that
Speaker 1: ship up. That's a spell.
Speaker 4: I mean, I'll have to say, uh, I don't think
Speaker 4: the email was probably bullshit. There was things in there
Speaker 4: that I didn't know from what I have already watched
Speaker 4: of The John of God.
Speaker 3: You know I didn't.
Speaker 2: I never would have thought. I mean, I guess it
Speaker 2: kind of makes sense.
Speaker 4: And I'm sure there's always some sort of form of
Speaker 4: mafia in a sense, but you know, I never really
Speaker 4: like thought of it that way. And the whole I
Speaker 4: mean that whole, like I don't know what you would
Speaker 4: call it, demon magic, whatever you they fucking with. I
Speaker 4: never would have, you know, thought that. I just figured
Speaker 4: the guy was just a straight up scam artist. That
Speaker 4: was just touching kids. That's what I thought. My theory
Speaker 4: on the man, I did not think.
Speaker 3: That stuff was.
Speaker 4: You know, I didn't think he actually knew anything, and
Speaker 4: he knew how to scam people and tell people what
Speaker 4: you know, they wanted to hear.
Speaker 1: You'd be surprised, dude. Have you ever seen the show
Speaker 1: In Search of with Leonard Nimoy?
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, that's old as ship Man.
Speaker 1: He did one video where he went to a voodoo
Speaker 1: ceremony in Haiti and it was the Blues. I don't
Speaker 1: think it was him, he said, he set a camera crew, right,
Speaker 1: and so they're watching, is this perfectly blue sky has
Speaker 1: a torrential downpour after a voodoo ceremony and you know
Speaker 1: they got it on video. There wasn't a cloud in
Speaker 1: the sky, and yet they're having this torrential downpour of
Speaker 1: water as the voodoo ceremony is over. So it's like
Speaker 1: something physical has changed in the environment. Something bizarre is happening.
Speaker 1: And so I think, you know, there's a lot of
Speaker 1: power in that stuff. It's just it's never public, you know,
Speaker 1: never the public stuff.
Speaker 4: Well, I even do think believe it in that it's
Speaker 4: it through like Noah, I wouldn't say basics science, but
Speaker 4: I think like if people start to look at sometimes
Speaker 4: or the cloud bust, I mean, if you're really to
Speaker 4: get into that, I mean, if I think most people
Speaker 4: be really surprised how simple that could kind of actually be.
Speaker 4: Sometimes I do wonder if like these old tribes like
Speaker 4: somehow like understand through.
Speaker 2: Like either sound or whatever they're doing with the music.
Speaker 4: And like I do wonder if like they actually understand
Speaker 4: to a certain extent that all these things may actually
Speaker 4: make it ring, you know what I'm saying in that area,
Speaker 4: Like there may actually be like whather modification going on
Speaker 4: through the stuff that they're doing, but don't even realize
Speaker 4: it to a certain extent.
Speaker 1: Right Well, I mean think about Oregon and think about
Speaker 1: the Cloudbusters that shit, you know, I mean you could
Speaker 1: watch it. And so let's face it, you're there's so
Speaker 1: many people out there, like what are the most common
Speaker 1: esoteric or you know, kind of mystical powers that people
Speaker 1: talk about. Is the ability to burst clouds with their
Speaker 1: minds or cause the clouds to move with their minds.
Speaker 1: It's one very common thing. And so I think there
Speaker 1: is this kind of a connection with the sky. I
Speaker 1: mean where did all the gods come from? You know?
Speaker 1: I think having that that connection there and being aware
Speaker 1: of it is something that it starts to really pick
Speaker 1: up when you get into the really heavier states of
Speaker 1: psych uh psychological uh distress, and even hypnosis has been
Speaker 1: known to cause that people so ritual it up. I mean,
Speaker 1: that's that stuff eventually works, you know.
Speaker 4: But yeah, that was that was an awesome That was
Speaker 4: an awesome email. Did you even know it was all
Speaker 4: that before you looked at it?
Speaker 1: Didn't even look at it. So once I opened it,
Speaker 1: I'm like, gold.
Speaker 4: Hey, you're probably like, oh wow, this is alone. Actually
Speaker 4: that's why take them and it great. This makes up
Speaker 4: on that was like two or three right there.
Speaker 1: Clouds are water, you know, and when you're talking about
Speaker 1: easy zones, I mean the easy zones form the cloud.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 1: That's why we have clouds is because of this easy water.
Speaker 1: So all of that is electrically charged. So the entire cloud,
Speaker 1: this is why you have lightning coming from clouds. All
Speaker 1: of this stuff is very highly electrically charged. So having
Speaker 1: that being connected to you know, thoughts and energy like that,
Speaker 1: that doesn't surprise me at all. You know, they're like
Speaker 1: brains you know, if you think about it, a cloud
Speaker 1: is kind of like a brain. It's got all the
Speaker 1: synas firing.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I like that. Actually they got of lightning in
Speaker 2: the clouds.
Speaker 1: Right, but uh yeah, So this is a great episode.
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