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Speaker 1: Born is one four. I'm going welcome into our number
two of a Monday edition of Off the Bench. Taylor
Sharper with you, the man with the smile, as the
intro music would say, Okay, look, we were very LSU
heavy and hour number one, I mean we covered baseball, softball,
We talked about our weekend in my awful golf game,
I broke down five possible breakout players for LSU in
spring practice. Right now, I want to shift focus to
the New Orleans Saints because they got a lot going on.
They just hired a new head coach, they hired some
new coordinators, and the NFL Draft is right around the corner.
For that, I want to bring in Grant Sature, a
reporter for Crescent City Sports, to Grant, what's going on
this morning?
Speaker 3: Man?
Speaker 4: You know it's been I've been doing pretty good. I'm
recovering from Martin Garo weekend of course here in New Orleans,
but also more so, my allergies came back, so I
was really battling more of that than they hang over
for Marti Garral. But I'm doing great this morning.
Speaker 3: How many how many praise did we hit this weekend?
Speaker 4: I was in Demian and that was the Boxers. I
actually thought afterway through Demien for some reason, that's how
That's how tired it was from the allergies. Man, it
was killing me.
Speaker 3: Did I hear you? I had?
Speaker 1: I had a wedding all Saturday. It was Uh, it
was quite the time. Grant. Let's dive in right now
to the New Orleans Saints. Look, obviously they have hired
Kellen Moore and since then he has hired his offensive
and defensive coordinators. You got Doug nld Smeyer on the
offensive side of things, you got Brandon Staley on the defense.
Just kind of surface level, like, what are your thoughts
on this coordinator?
Speaker 3: Hires well.
Speaker 4: For starters, you know, I think for Doug nutsmy somebody
that has worked with Kellen Moore at every stop since
twenty eighteen. He's there with Kella Moore with the Cowboys,
with Kelling Moore with the Chargers, and of course he
was with calling more with the Eagles, So it made
sense why he was the guy to go with the Dolphins.
Cordinertor he's not really calling the places, more there to
kind of help with game planning and all, just you know,
be a coach. Conf kelling Moore for Brandon Daily. Brandon
Daley was the head coach of the Chargers in twenty
twenty three, where Kellen Moore was dopics coordinator, so of
course they have some sort of relationship. And on top
of that, he runs with three four and is a
big Grantio guy as someone that Kellen Moore worked with
when he was with the Eagles. But you know, the
only question, the only question I have about Brandon Daily
is what we see the Brandon's stay defense from twenty
twenty when the Rams had the number one defense, or
what we see the Brandon's daily defense when he was
the headcarch of the Chargers where they were no better
than twenty throughout his three years with the Charge. Now,
that may have to do with him taking on more
responsibilities because he was the head coach, but we will
see because right now in New Orleans heads apparently heads
are gonna roll right now because I think everyone wants
Vicky Williams.
Speaker 1: Cause speaking of Mickey Loomis being in the headlines, like,
you know, he came out last week and was saying, look,
the Saints is playing right now, at least for the moment,
it is to stick with Derek Carr this season at quarterback.
Speaker 3: Is that the right move or the wrong move?
Speaker 4: You know, that's a great question, Taylor. It's the right
move and the wrong move at the same time, as
you know what I'm saying, Like, I mean, the Saints
dug themselves a hole, but giving a lucrative, four year,
one hundred and fifty million dollar deal with the Note Trey, cause,
like guys like Derek Carr usually don't get that. Derek Carr,
I mean, he's been a decent quarterback who has his
entire time with the NFL. He's a three or four
time Pro Bowler, but he's not somebody that's gonna take
you to the next level. And that's I feel like
the disconnect between a lot of people that cover or
are fans of the Saints and then with the front office.
The front office thinks they're one player way from winning
a like football game. However, they're more like twenty one
players from winning a lot of football games. And I
feel like that's the disconnect that the Saints have with
everybody else that they seem to be one place where
everything's like rainbows and rainbow unicorns, while in the world
it seems like we're in Chernobyl in this sense, speaking of, you.
Speaker 1: Know, the Saints quarterback situation. Look, obviously they mentioned Derek Carr.
A lot of people are like, hey, can you grab
a free agent? Can you grab somebody in the draft.
Spencer Rattler is a guy that a lot of Saints
fans have a lot of different opinions on. Some people
are like, oh, I loved what I saw from Spencer Ratler.
Some people are like, well, you know, I think Spencer
Rattler left a lot to be desired.
Speaker 3: What are your thoughts on him? And like maybe his
future with this franchise.
Speaker 4: Well, I don't know if these short term or the
long term. Manager. What I do know is that he
has a lot of talent, right he was the number
one player coming out of high school. I know he
had a pretty inconsistent career in college with Oklahoma and
South Carolina, but the talent's undeniable, right, I mean. Tom
Pullasar went on The Rich Eigens Show and talked about
how a lot of NXF coaches thought Spencer Ratler was
extremely talented. Now there's a different between having talent in
being a guy that will be winning games. Right, Tom
Brady was not the most talented guy in the world.
But Tom Brady was a competitor and he won a
large run the Marine as a quarterback for the Patriots.
I mean, people always saw Peyton Manning as the most
talented quarterback. But when it came down to winning games
and going to the playoffs and winning a championship, who
would you choose Tom Brady though? I mean so the
thing about Spencer Rattler is that he may not be
as good or even better than Derek Carr. But compared
to Derek Carr, one of the main Christmas about their cars,
He's not really that big of a competitors. He's not
a guy that's gonna challenge the teams or even make
his teammates better. We had not seen that throughout his
career in the NFL go even going back to the Raiders.
Speaker 1: Grant, so many people, you know, just outside of Derek Carr,
they're talking about they want to complete rebuild for the
New Orleans Saints. I for want them all for it,
but you know, you see the cap situation the Saints
are in, and uh, one guy that's going to have
a big cap hit is Cam Jordan. Look, he's not
getting any younger. What are your thoughts on the Saints
potentially trading away Cam Jordan?
Speaker 4: You know, look, it's not even just Cam Dorton. I think, wait,
if you're the Saints, like you have to be in
rebuilt mote like you should have been in Rebuilt most
two years ago. And the fact that we're talking about
Kate trading Cam Jordan and might I know, as much
as people in New Orleans love Cam Dorton, I think
one of the worst moves that the Saints made it
with extincting Cam Jordan despite his play going off on
the down right, and now you have to do Now
you're in this horrible cast spaces wish where you're fifty
four million dollars over the cap and then you know,
and this was a lot talked about the Saints releasing
he's in Hill, but now they're apparently they're respining case mode.
So like when looking at the things, it's almost like
they're not trying to go into a recess. They're almost
trying to win now, which makes zero sense when you
have a new regime in place with Kellam Moore, but
you have the fourth oldest roster, and really at this
point you should do whatever you can to get under
the cap, whether it's restructured and contracts, whether it's trading players.
So if you treat Camp Jordan, it's not the end
of the world. But who's gonna take Cam Jordan right now,
who's thirty five years old, will be thirty six during
the season, and you know his play's going down. Was
he used will he be used for? That's kind of
where the stats are at right now. All the players
they wanted straight away are older. Yeah, I got you,
go ahead.
Speaker 1: I'm glad you mentioned that about Cam because, like I
have that same thought about Taysom Hills. So many people
were mad saying, why are the Saints bringing back Taysom Hill? Grant,
you got a thirty five year old gadget player who
fits your offense, not necessarily everybody else's who is had
multiple injuries in college. Now he's coming off of multiple
injuries in the NFL. I just don't know how much
you can get for a Taysom or a Cam Jordan
on the open.
Speaker 4: Market, right exactly. I mean Taysom Hill's coming up of
Major nich too, right, so like and he's thirty five
years old. Like I know, right now he's probably thinking
about his post playing career. That's where Tastom Hill's in
his career. I mean he's an older player, not like
you may look at it here is like whoa, how
is you thirty five? Well he went to BYU. Of
course they take a tear Mormon missions and then they
come back and play college a lot of times, so
he's it was generally an older he was even the
older player in college. So right now after the stace,
there's no reason why to bring back to Hill if
you want to bring back a Taithan Mills player. In reality,
the Stations draft Tyler Warren. I know you guys probably
asked about the draft, but Tyler Warren with a phenomenal
tied end in college. But not only that, they used
them at a lot of walk at situations because he
was actually the high school quarter.
Speaker 1: You brought me right into the next question, Grant shifting
from guys that are on the current roster to guys
who could be the NFL draft coming up in April.
As far as round one, whether it's a specific player
or just a position group as a whole, what do
you think the Saint should do round one?
Speaker 4: Well, I know Keller Moore as his introductory fresh conference
talk a lot about the trenches, right, So a lot
of people are thinking maybe they might drafted de Wiman,
which is reasonable because they do need another edge rusher
because of course Cam Jordan is getting older. He might
be retiring after this year, so that's the possibility. And
now people were talking about the office line, but really,
really the need for office line is the interior office lineman.
But there's really not that much top dotch interior office lineman.
They're more offensive tackles right now, I think the States
are comfortable's our office tackles at the moment, right despite
Trevor Penny's struggle. If I'm the State, I would drop
to pet sketch, whether that whether that be a receiver
or Tina. Of course a receiver you have Tittoror and McMillan.
I'm pretty sure Lucid Burdon might be somebody that the
Saints will be interested in as well, because you know,
he's a very good receiver at Missourian Suppost team. Or
will probably be a top ten pick, but both those
guys might go earlier than number nine. Right tedder Rob mcmiller.
I've seen some knock Josh, we might go in the
top five recently. So tedor Ro mcmill six ten pounds,
you will not only provide a third option to pass
the game, which you desperately need giving the injuries you
had last year, he's also a bigger receiver. Like he's said,
he's six to four, twoach and ten pounds. Nobody on
the scenes has that type of size, so you you
probably need a guy like him, but if you, but
I think really the Saints will draft like the Tyler Ward.
Tyler Ward not only is a great pass catcher, but
who also provide support on the edges. Right, you can
help out Crevin Pennie and telhu'sa uagam with blocking on
the edge. But like I said, he's also has been
used as a wildcat quarterback, So you know, if you're
trying to bring in somebody like that in like short
yard situations, Tyler Warren will be perfect for that. I
know there's still some questions about his blocking ability, but
Tyler Ward is a top fifteen pick for reasons right.
He's an extremely gifted athlete and a great pass catcher
and really was one of the reasons why Penn State
made it as far as it did in the playoffs.
Speaker 1: Great sasure joining us right now reporter for cresents any
sports grant. Let's get away from the round one and
I agree with everything you said as far as quarterback. Obviously,
the Saints are not going to grab somebody in the
first couple of rounds. But are there any late round
qbs you like?
Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, for stars, I think Jackson dar is
somebody that the States to look at. I think he's
probably to be more of a Day two pick. However,
you know, I've been hearing a lost of a lot
of people pretty Jackson Star so he can talk the
move the day. I don't know yet. I mean, we
won't know more until we're pretty much until after the
Pro Days when he's Obviously you have the combine this
past week, and then of course you had Pro Day's
coming up, so a lot more could be coming out.
We thought Brian Thomas be a borderline first round pick
to being a BONAFI first round pick due to Combine
and Pro Day. Uh, but you know, I think the
Jackson Dar, somebody the Saints will probably look at. I
think the Saints will also look at a guy like
Cal mcford, a guy who is a competitor. Right, Remember
he got uh he got you know, sent away from
Ohio State for Will Howard, which is another guy I
think the Saints will look at as well. But kle
McCord went to Syracuse the step bulking down and you
know and just like oh whatever, he bawled out of Syracuse,
right he was the reason why they went eight and
full get a phenomenal year at Syracuse, throwing for over
four thousand yards. I know he has a little bit
of an interception problem, but his competitor competitive nature is there,
and it's think that somebody at the Saints des need
right now when you know, right now it just seems
like the Saints are you know, on a down with
Borrow and it have been to the past three years.
But all speaking of Will Howard, that's the wady I
think the Saints kid probably look We'll probably look at
in the late rounds as well. He had a I mean,
he was a three four year start at Kansas State,
goes to Ohio State, has a great year and really
showed his ability in the playoffs when the Buck guys
named in him the most, winning the National Championship in
the process.
Speaker 1: Great, before I let you go, not only are you
with presidents of the sport, you cover a lot for
l O Shoe as well. I see you out there
at all the fall practices. I'll probably do the same
this coming year. Look spring practice coming up for LSU.
But Bo Davis leaving as a defensive line coach and
going to the New Orleans Saints.
Speaker 3: What does that mean for the Saints? What does that
mean for the Tigers?
Speaker 4: Well, that is definitely LSU's biggest loss going in this
frame and is definitely the saints biggest gain going into
the offseason. Of course, Bo Davis is arguably the best
teams to line coach in football period, regardless to the level.
He's a guy that knowledge coach at the college level
was a long time saving assistance for a very long time.
But he's also guy who's coach in the NFL. For him,
I think about five or six years, most recently with
the Detroit Lions from twenty eighteen to twenty twenty before
accepting the same job with Texas, and I saw a
lot of Twitter debates about Bo Davis with LSU fans
the States fans. That's something I still haven't figured out
yet because I'm a not only am I a long
time Saints fan of course being from the Worlds, but
also went to LSU, So I never really got the
fuss between LSU and the same Aints. But what I
do know is that Boa Davis, it just seems like
Bo Davis is ready got to college, right with all
the changes and everything like that, and when the Saints
shop opened up, I mean it was kind of like, oh,
I'm gonna take it. You know, he's a grown man.
He made a grown man decision, and you know, he
still loved els who went to l He played to LSU.
Obviously he coached the LSU. But I think he just
probably want to get back to the NFL where you
don't have to, you know, deal with you know, recruiting
and n al how much you paid this guy and
of course the transfer portal, and you might not have
the same guys he's in every year. Because of those
two factors, I just think he's just had enough of them.
He's an older coach. People have to remember, he's fifty
four fifty five years old, which is pretty old for
a coach, especially at the college level.
Speaker 1: Grant Sash, a reporter for Crescent City Sports. Grant, thanks
for hopping on with us today.
Speaker 4: Man, no problem, Thank you for having me on DAYLS.
Speaker 3: Absolutely all right.
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Speaker 1: All right, look, tease did a little bit going in
to break. I want to mention a quick Saints segment
here because Mickey Loomis early last week said the Saints
plan is to roll with Derek Carr, despite Loomas saying
that the media did something very smart. They did not
take Mickey Loomis at his word. That's just like blanket
advice across the board. If you do that, you're right
more times than not. So despite Loomas saying they're rolling
with Derek Carr, Justin Fields is continually continuously being linked
to the New Orleans Saints. Multiple articles came out this
weekend saying that the Saints could be one of the
top fits for Justin Fields, and the reason they mention
it is because of the hiring of Kellen Moore. I
am here to tell you that I think this is
an awful idea. If it's a quarterback you want to
win with if you want to tank, which I don't
think the Saints do. We were just talking with Grant.
They're still restructuring salaries. They still seem like they're in
win now mode even though they don't have the roster
to do it. But that's just perpetually kind of what
the New Orleans Saints do. Sure, Kellen Moore had success
with Jalen Hurts and Saquon Barkley, which is why this
whole conversation started to begin with, Right, Jalen Hurts is
a very good runner. Justin Fields is a very good runner.
So he wins the Super Bowl with Saquon Barkley and
Jalen Hurts. Can't he do it with Justin Fields and
Alvin Kamara. No, And here's why Justin Fields is not
Jalen Hurts. In my opinion, Jalen Hurts is a borderline
top five quarterback in this league, which as a Cowboys fan,
that is super tough for me to say, but I mean,
reality is what it is.
Speaker 3: What makes Jalen Hurts so good.
Speaker 1: Look, he's obviously improved drastically as a passer since he's
been in the NFL. He was kind of a liability
at times in that area in college, he's gotten so
much better at it. But what makes Jalen Hurts so good, Look,
it's not his improved ability as a passer, it's look,
he has a great ability to run. Jalen Hurts does
not turn the football over. And everyone is going to
point to this past season when Justin Field started six games. Look,
he started six games, they went three and three with him.
He had five passing touchdowns, only one interception. And when
you look at that off the top of your head,
you're gonna go, oh, hey, well, Justin Field stopped his
turnover issues. Bring him in with Kellen Moore, who did
good things with Jalen Hurts, who also limits his turnovers.
That seems like a match made in heaven. A turnovers,
A turnover doesn't have to be an interception. In the
four years that Justin Fields has been in the NFL,
he has forty four fumbles forty four including six last year.
So you could say, okay, well, he threw one interception
in six games, hit six fumbles in six games. Now
did he lose all forty four of those fumbles? No,
nobody's gonna lose all forty four of their fumbles, But
to me, it doesn't really matter. A fumble kills the
play you drop the ball, that play is dead right
there where you drop that ball because you got to
jump back on it. So I don't really care whether
he lost the fumble or not. It's either at worst,
it's a turnover. At best, you get it back and
you kill that play. Most of the time, as a quarterback,
you're now behind the chains because you lost the yardage
on that fumble. Some of these articles are also pointing
out the Saints are not a great second chance spot
or not a great landing spot for second chance qbs due.
Speaker 3: To the roster.
Speaker 1: Yeah no, kid, But let's take Kellen Moore to consideration.
Kellen Moore has been the offensive coordinator the Dallas Cowboys,
the Los Angeles Chargers, and the Philadelphia Eagles. Dak Prescott,
Justin Herbert Jalen Hurts, three very different qbs. That's kind
of the guy that can do a little bit of both.
Hurts is known as the runner Herbert pretty much your
typical true additional drop back pocket passer. Kellen moorees had
success with all three of those guys as his starting quarterbacks,
and he's done it with three different style qbs. That
tells me the Kellen Moore's offense is very QB friendly.
The Kellen Moore knows how to adjust and call plays
the work to the strengths of his quarterback. Because what
do you hear all the time, Well, this coordinator is
trying to get his quarterback to fit his system. No, no, no, no,
You get your system to fit your quarterback. That is
what Kellen Moore is excellent at. When you can say, okay, well,
the Saints have never been good at second chance QB's.
They weren't under Dennis Allen. But Sean Payton did this
multiple times. When Breeze was getting hurt late in his career,
he put Teddy Bridgewater in there. Teddy Bridgewater went four
and one as a starter and it helped the Saints
make the playoffs that year. Then, even post Breeze, a
little bit before Peyton left, people may not remember this,
Taysom Hill is six and two as a starting quarterback
in New Orleans. Everyone thought it was going to be
Jameis Winston. When Drew Brees went down, Peyton said he
was rolling with Taysom Hill. Taysom, He'll go six and two.
I would take that all day. And then even with
Jamis Winston, he was efficient. He only had thrown two
interceptions when he was starting. Now his is a little
bit different because I personally believe Sean Payton was scared
to let Jameis Winston throw the football, and rightfully so,
because that was right after Jamis Winston was coming off
his thirty interception season. He was twenty eighth in the
NFL in terms of pass attempts per game. So Peyton
really wasn't letting him throw the football. But he still
played through the strength of his team. He leaned on
the running game. He had an elite defense that year
with Dennis Allen as the defensive coordinator, and he put
Jamis in there and said, hey, don't turn the ball over,
don't make mistakes.
Speaker 3: We'll win this game.
Speaker 1: Good coaches find a way to make different quarterbacks work
in their offense. He saw it with Peyton, Breeze Bridgewater,
Taysom Hill. Jameis Winston has done it. Now It's been
at three different stops, but with three different quarterbacks. Dak
Prescott justin Herbert Jalen hurts, why can't he do that again?
And I get it. The Saints' roster is not great.
I understand that, but they still have an opportunity to
turn things around at least a little bit in the
NFL Draft. Now, do I have confidence they're going to
do that? Not if Mickey Loomis is solely in charge,
depending on how much influence Kellen.
Speaker 3: Moore has on draft day? Sure, why not?
Speaker 1: Because I trust Kellen Moore's ability to put together a
good offense and put together a system that helps his
quarterback because he's done it everywhere and he's spent so
all this talk about h well, if you're a second
chance quarterback, I mean, look, Justin Fields is listed, Sam
Darnold's listed, Daniel Jones is listed. The Saints have not
done it in recent years, but that was with Dennis Allen,
who was an awful head coach, who is in over
his head, who had no idea what he was doing. Sure,
Kellen Moore is a first time head coach, but if
he runs his team the way he runs his offense,
he's going to be just fine because he's done it
inultiple spots with multiple different styles of quarterbacks. Cowboys didn't
have a ton around. I mean, their roster was better
than the Saints, but they didn't have a ton around Dak,
at least not outside Ceedee Lamb. You look at the
Chargers who did Justin Herbert at he had Keenan Allen
had an aging Austin Eckeler. His offensive line wasn't great.
Kellen Moore still made it work. Sure, the Eagles rosters stacked,
I get it. Jalen Hurt, Saquon Barkley, DeVante Smith, A J. Brown,
Dallas Goddard. I understand that. But the two previous spots,
I wouldn't call them stacked rosters. The Cowboys had a
good roster and I actually the Chargers had a below
average roster the Kellen Moore made look good. I wasn't
a fan of Kellen Moore when he first came to Dallas,
but that was his first coordinating job. When you go
look at what the shape of the Dallas Cowboys are
in now compared to where Kellen Moore left, maybe I
was wrong. Maybe it was Dak, Maybe it was the Cowboys,
Maybe it wasn't. Kellen Moore quite as much because he
did a heck of a job with the Chargers, which
is why he was only there for a short period
of time. And he just won the Super Bowl with
one of the most efficient offenses we've seen in recent years.
So I don't think this was a Saints issue. I
think this was a Dennis Allen issue. Peyton had no
problem doing it. I have no reason to believe yet
that Kellen Moore can't do it. I need to see it,
but he's done it so far in his career. Also,
before we go to break, it has been reported that
the Saints are expected to lose defensive end Chase Young
in free agency.
Speaker 3: I'm okay with this.
Speaker 1: Look. We were just talking to Grant about Cam Jordan
getting older. His production may not be quite what his
contract is worth. At this point, Chase Jong is a
big name. I think Chase Young is going to command
a lot of money on the open market. Someone's going
to overpay for him. Make sure it's not you. Look,
I think Chase Young had a solid season with New
Orleans thirty one total tackles, five and a half sacks,
eight tackles for a loss, twenty one QB hits. He
was good. You played in all seventeen games. That was
a concern that are the injuries going to catch up
with him? He was healthy for the most part, but
he wasn't outstanding. He was okay. I think you can
get a guy in the draft. I think this is
a very deep draft. I get it. Everyone's going to
talk about Abdul Carter and Mike Green in the first round.
Speaker 3: I get all that.
Speaker 1: Jack Sawyer is projected late second, early third round right
now out of Ohio State. Braydon Swinson from Loshoes going
to be a Day two, day three pick. There are
a ton of guys out there in this draft that
can help you that you can get on rookie deals,
because let's not forget you're still in cap Hill. I
am okay with letting Chase Young walk. I know a
lot of people have a lot of different opinions about that. Again,
Chase Young was good. Somebody's gonna overpay for him. If
you're the Saints, you literally cannot afford to overpay for him.
You're already trying to cut down contracts. Don't overpay for
somebody else just because you're blinded by some late season success.
Move on from Chase Young, rebuild that position in the draft.
It's a good draft for defensive ends. It's a deep
draft for defensive ends.
Speaker 3: Go get one.
Speaker 1: It doesn't even have to be in the first round.
There's going to be quality guys, as I just mentioned, second, third,
fourth round, you'll be fine.
Speaker 3: Move on from that. I'm good with it one.
Speaker 4: All right.
Speaker 1: Look, we're gonna take a quick time out when we
get back. A couple of big time NFL storylines. One
involves Jaden Daniels in the Washington Commanders and the other
a New York team but not the Jets of the Giants. However,
Aaron Rodgers still involved. We'll get to that on the
other side here on off the Bench, Off the Bench.
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Speaker 1: A lot of Saints talk. The last two segments, we
had Grant Sager hop on with us. We talked a
little Saints offseason, Saints drafting. The last segment, Justin Field's
continuously linked to the New Orleans Saints. I explained why
that I believe is a very bad idea. Right now,
I want to mention two more quick NFL topics. Deebo
Samuel has finally found a home. He was one of
the bigger names to hit the trading ball was announced
about two three weeks ago that the forty nine ers
were allowing him to seek a trade. He has found
a new home and it's a big one for anybody
who's an LSU fan. Deebo Samuel has been traded to
the Washington Commanders, and all Washington had to give up
was a fifth round pick. I know everybody feels a
certain way about Deebo Samuel. I think this is huge,
and I think it's big for Jayden Daniels. Not only
does it give Jayden another weapon, it also adds versatility
to an offense that was already really versatile a year ago.
Speaker 3: Look at what Daniels has.
Speaker 1: Terry mclaurin's stud Terry mclaaran is a top fifteen to
twenty wide receiver in this league, no question about it.
He has an aging Austin Eckler. Running back Brian Robinson
Junior has been in and out of the lineup, no problem.
Deebo Samuel can slide in there and play running back.
He did it multiple times out in San fran when
McCaffrey and Jordan May and all of them went down,
and he actually played pretty well. He's played running back
multiple times in his career. I get it he's been underwhelming.
I understand that he's still a relatively young player and
he can definitely make an impact on an offense that
outside of Terry mclauren, what do you have. I mean,
zach Ertz was big for this team in the playoffs.
Zach Ertz is not getting any younger. He's been a
good tight end for a number of years. I don't
know how much he has left in the tank. And
as good as Terry mclauren is, the number two and
three receivers on this team for most of the year
was Dammy Brown and Olamide's a kyas If you don't
know who those guys are, that's perfectly fine. That's pretty
much my point. Luke McCaffrey was sprinkled in there as well.
Solid players, not bad. Zakias came up with multiple big
catches in the playoffs. Dammy Brown, he is great on
the deep ball, but those are not guys that you
can rely on game in and game out to make
the game win.
Speaker 3: And he plays for you.
Speaker 1: Mclauren.
Speaker 6: Sure.
Speaker 1: Outside of Terry mclauren, I think Jayden kind of covered
up a lot of problems on that offense. You get
a guy like Deebo Samuel who can play out wide,
who could play in the slot, who could play in
the backfield.
Speaker 3: If you need a running back.
Speaker 1: I really really like this move for Jayden Daniels, again
for no other reason than it gives you versatility. And yes,
Jaden was great as a rookie. He was by far
the best rookie quarterback in the NFL this year.
Speaker 3: You saw it.
Speaker 1: He won Offensive Rookie of the Year, he won all
those things. He's still a young player. He needs all
the help he can get. Dan Quinn, their head coach,
is going to get that defense even better and better
and better. He's got Kingsbury back as an offensive coordinator.
Him and Jaydon Daniels are only going to get more
familiar with each other. What do you do You add
pieces to help you win because you're in win now mode.
You learned that last year that there is no easing
into it with Jayden Daniels. You were in win now
mode right now. I think this was a really good pickup.
And again you only had to give up a fifth
round pick to get Deebo Sam Great awesome love the move.
Another move that has not happened yet, but there are
a lot of rumors that it might. Aaron Rodgers going
back to New York, but not to the New York Jets.
The New York Giants. We brought this up a couple
of weeks ago that Aaron Rodgers has reached out to
the New York Giants saying, hey, somebody please take me. Well,
since nobody wants to go to the New York Giants,
they have now reached out to Aaron Rodgers.
Speaker 3: Not a good idea in my opinion.
Speaker 1: You're putting together a bad, mismanaged franchise with a quarterback
that's over the hill, that has an ego problem. Now
is someone that doesn't really like any teams in the
city of New York. I'm going to enjoy this from
afar and watch the train wreck that I believe this
is going to be. Look, Rogers's numbers last year were
actually better than a lot of people realize. I'm not
saying that Rogers is not a starting caliber quarterback in
this league anymore, even though he has diminished a lot.
Look last year, Rogers sixty three percent completion and ninety
seven yards, so a hair under four thousand, twenty eight touchdowns,
eleven interceptions. That's actually pretty solid numbers when you look
at it on the surface. Take his own field performance
out up. Whether you think he's still good, whether you
think he's washed. Kind of irrelevant to this particular point.
He has been a negative on every team he has
been on the last five years because he's a distraction
and he's not a positive distraction. Let's think about the
journey of Aaron Rodgers for just a second and what
happens when things don't go well in New York. Aaron
Rodgers wins a Super Bowl with Mike McCarthy. Okay, everything's
going great. Green Bay's on top of the world. You
have a young quarterback and a head coach that could
be together for quite some time. Aaron Rodgers because of
his poor play in the playoffs, because of him turning
the ball over and inopportune times. Well, I can't win
with Mike McCarthy. Well that's okay, Aaron. We'll make a change.
Speaker 3: Who do you want?
Speaker 1: I want Matt Lafleuur. Matt Lafleur is my guy? All right, cool,
we'll get you, Matt Lafleur. You do good in the
regular season, you go to the playoffs, you'll once again
fall flat on your face. Oh well, it's clearly Matt Lafleur. Right,
it can't be Aaron Rodgers. It cannot be the great
Aaron Rodgers. Aaron Rodgers wants out. Even though Matt Lafleur
was his guy. He can't win with him either. It's
clearly Matt Lafluur's fault. I want to go, and I
want to pick my destination. I picked the New York Jets,
knowing that Robert Sala was their head coach, knowing the
weapons I have on this team. This is the team
that I want to go to. Cool We'll trade you
to the New York Jets. Well, guess what happens. We'll
take what year one as a loss.
Speaker 3: I get it.
Speaker 1: He tore his achilles like four plays in. I'll give
him a pass on that. This season, you can't win anything.
So they move on from Robert Sala. Because once again,
no way is this Aaron Rodgers' fault, right, And you
actually have a worse winning percentage without Robert Sala than
you did with it. Let's put this into perspective for
a little bit. Zach Wilson and Sam Donald both considered
bust until this past year. Both considered incredibly bad misses
by the New York Giants, I mean by the New
York Jets in Round one of the NFL Draft. Wilson
and Sam Darnold had better winning percentages with the New
York Jets than Aaron Rodgers did. But that's okay. He
gets to go on McAfee every week. Aaron Rodgers is
going to be in the spotlight no matter what. How
do you think this is going to end with the
New York Giants? You got my leak neighbors, he's great,
He's a stunt Tyron Tracy surprised a lot of people
as a rookie last year. He did some nice things
at running back. Is it sustainable? You don't have the
great offensive line in the world. You're about to be
forty one years old. Your head coach has been rumored
to be fired every offseason for like the last three years.
Yet Joe Shane is your GM, which he was the
laughing stock of the league this entire season because of
hard knocks and what he said about overpaying for Saquon Barkley.
How do you think this is going to go? You
have a poorly ran, poorly managed franchise with the New
York Giants. Now you want to bring in a forty
one year old quarterback with not a ton of weapons
around him outside of elite neighbors, a decent offensive line,
nothing great, an above average running game. They don't really
know what their defense is going to do. It's been
hit and miss. Do you really think Aaron Rodgers is
going to turn this around?
Speaker 4: And?
Speaker 1: Like, what sense does it make for the New York Giants.
They're probably going to draft a young quarterback in this draft,
as they should, but if you're bringing in Rogers, you're
gonna want that quarterback to sit. Rogers is going to
know that. Rogers, you know, reportedly kind of felt some
type of way about that when the Packers did it
with Jordan Love. I imagine we're gonna see a similar reaction here. Also,
when you're bringing in Aaron Rodgers and you're going to
pay him what Aaron Rodgers is going to demand, that
essentially means you're in win now mode. The New York
Giants aren't closed to competing for a Super Bowl with
Aaron Rodgers. Without Aaron Rodgers, it doesn't really matter. I
don't see how any of this is beneficial to the
New York Giants. I get it. For Aaron Rodgers, market
ain't exactly oversaturated for teams knocking on Aaron Rodgers's door.
Rodgers is basically going to play for the Giants the Titans,
or he's gonna sit at home on his couch like
me on Sundays. So I get why Aaron Rodgers would
want to go there. This makes no sense for me.
If you're the New York Giants, we'll see what happens.
There's been a lot of rumors there. As a Cowboys fan,
I hope it happens because I need somebody else to
be in turmoil like my franchise. I don't think it
should happen, though. I think this would be a really
bad move by the New York Giants. All right, look,
we're gonna take a time out, we come back. We're
gonna close out hour number two and then an hour
number three. Zach naggif s I is gonna hop on
where to preview spring football, We're gonna do weekend winners
at nine point fifteen instead of nine am.
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Speaker 1: Go Tommy's dot Com. Final segment, hour number two of
a Monday edition of Off the Bench, Taylor Sharpe with
you filling in for Jacob Heeser and t Baba Bear.
Jake sent us a picture He's got the cup of
coffee in the ocean looking nice, ta Bob. All he
did was make ugly comments in the YouTube chat. So
shout out to both of those guys. Hope they are
enjoying their vacation. Guys mention this to you during break
and I intentionally did not tell you the movies. So, Cassie,
I don't know how you are in terms of movies.
I know a Lauandra like, at least for the classics,
you've pretty much seen the malt correct. Yeah, okay, I
watch a ton of movies, Cassie. How are you with
movie knowledge?
Speaker 5: I watch a lot of movies.
Speaker 3: I'm like a big streamer to watch lots of stuff.
Speaker 1: Perfect. Last night was the Oscars. Okay, first off, they
had ten nominations for Best Movie. I kind of feel
like you could narrow that down to three. What you
guys to tell me if you've seen any of these?
Because I watch a ton of movies, and I sat
there last night and was like, I'm apparently not nearly
as cultured as I thought I was, because I have
seen one of The tenth A Nora.
Speaker 3: Anybody seen it?
Speaker 4: No?
Speaker 1: Anybody know who even remotely is in it or what
it's about.
Speaker 2: I heard something, okay, well, you know she's in there.
I know she's in it, but I don't know who
else is in.
Speaker 1: How about the Brutalist, No, never heard of that one,
A complete unknown.
Speaker 3: You've probably seen that one in Launda the Bob Villin
when or did you see?
Speaker 1: No, I's a complete great movie. Conclave. No, nope, I
didn't think so. Dune Part two, that's the one I've seen.
I still haven't seen it.
Speaker 2: I know what it is, but I have no I
haven't seen part two yet.
Speaker 1: Amelia Perez No and I heard it sucked.
Speaker 3: Well.
Speaker 1: It won every single thing. It did not win Best Picture,
but it literally won Best Supporting Actress, Best Director, be
like literally best like it's one like six Thames.
Speaker 2: That is insane because I've seen a clip that goes
around Twitter of this movie and it's Selena Gomez and
she's speaking Spanish and the other one she's speaking.
Speaker 1: It terribly well, others disagree, Elandre. How about Wicked, that's
a popular one, Okay, yeah, no, I never saw Wicked. Actually,
well for Best picture goes a nourra and Guys, I
gotta be honest with you, Like again, I kind of
feel like I have seen a lot of really good movies.
Like me and t bub said here and talked about
U nos Feratu. No didn't win a single thing last night.
Was only nominated for one thing, and it was like
makeup design.
Speaker 3: Something like that.
Speaker 2: I feel like horror movies or like movies that are
not movies don't.
Speaker 1: But see that's why I kind of had hope for No.
S Faratu. That's a film that is a two and
a half hour long movie. I would even call it
a horror movie, but like the Substance, that's a apparently
a horror movie.
Speaker 3: It was on this list.
Speaker 1: I've never seen it. I know Demi Moore's in it.
That's about all line. Note. Yeah, I guess the point
is like we are so out of touch. Yeah, apparently
with what is what is hot, what is popular.
Speaker 3: Or anything like that.
Speaker 1: I watch a ton of movies I haven't seen any.
Speaker 2: And I feel like I lost this like two three
years ago.
Speaker 1: It's arty now, it's what movie's the artsy is and.
Speaker 2: All this I used to watch like every single movie
that came out every like a twenty four film that
came out every just like big blockbuster that came out.
Speaker 1: I still did, Yeah, I thought I still did. Yeah,
I don't know. All right, Look, that's gonna wrap up
our number two coming on an hour number three. We're
gonna have weekend winners at nine to fifteen. Because zat
naggy Uh he covers LSU for Sports Illustrated. He's gonna
hop one at nine o'clock. We're also gonna talk some
LSU men's and women's basketball, and of course we're gonna
wrap things up with ass the Bench. If you missed
the first two hours, Hour one was very LSU heavy.
I mean we hit LSU baseball, LSU softball, LSU football,
and then it's past hour. Jayden Daniels got another weapon
in Deebo Samuel Aaron Rodgers might be going to the
New York Giants. We talked all things New Orleans Saints.
Hour three, we're gonna have a little bit of fun.
That's all coming up. Since stay tuned, you're on a
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