Speaker 1: Oh bed of that Star.
Speaker 2: Hello, and welcome to the show.
Speaker 1: This is the Cult of Conspiracy and I am the
Speaker 1: Cage to Night and today we bring back somebody we
Speaker 1: haven't known. The ship had on the show and it
Speaker 1: seems like forever and it's time to we rectify this.
Speaker 2: Everybody.
Speaker 1: Welcome the Great, the Powerful, the Grimbowski. How the fuck
Speaker 1: are you, brother?
Speaker 3: Pretty good man?
Speaker 2: You live in the dream, absolutely living the dream.
Speaker 3: Bro.
Speaker 1: I feel like we haven't spoken in so long. Give
Speaker 1: me the rundown, give me the updates. Last time we spoke,
Speaker 1: you were were you traveling the country to haunted sites
Speaker 1: and doing some content in that regard?
Speaker 3: No, just just around my area, okay much uh, nothing
Speaker 3: nothing currently. It's just it's too cold. Indiana sucks, like
Speaker 3: you can't go outside, Like it's just it's frigid.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I feel that. I feel that. But as far
Speaker 2: as the content goes, what you've been up.
Speaker 3: To, ma'am. Honestly, there for a while so like I
Speaker 3: had a bunch of like personal things kind of happen,
Speaker 3: so I've had to like completely like slow down and
Speaker 3: stop altogether. So like here and there, I've been able
Speaker 3: to do some different things. But for the most part.
Speaker 3: What I was really doing was I was developing a
Speaker 3: audio book for the show, and basically it's conspiracy fan fit,
Speaker 3: a little bit of events that have taken place and
Speaker 3: this and that, but then also kind of, you know,
Speaker 3: just my own little fun twist on it, just kind
Speaker 3: of playing off as if more or less the theme
Speaker 3: is like, okay, so there'd be like a secret group
Speaker 3: more or less that's kind of infiltrating the government and
Speaker 3: trying to get into different different things, big pharma, military,
Speaker 3: tech industries, like all these different things. And then on
Speaker 3: top of that, I've been held with having you know,
Speaker 3: other podcasters you know, do little scripts and record those
Speaker 3: as well, so I can put them all in and
Speaker 3: then once it's all said and done, so like each
Speaker 3: episode is like its own chapter, and then when it's
Speaker 3: all said and done, there will be thirty three chapters.
Speaker 3: And then I'm going to try to turn it into
Speaker 3: an actual physical book. And it's called the Big Rambowski's
Speaker 3: Conspiracy Handbook.
Speaker 4: That's really cool. Yeah, that sounds really neat.
Speaker 1: Okay, so what's the I'm very uh out of the
Speaker 1: loop when it comes to audiobooks versus paper. I understand
Speaker 1: the obvious differences on that, but as far as trying
Speaker 1: to put together things in an audiobook style rather than
Speaker 1: going towards printing paper first, what's the some of the
Speaker 1: nuances there.
Speaker 3: I'm just kind of like you know, creating different different
Speaker 3: scripts for different episodes and then adding like little little
Speaker 3: things like like, uh, I'll have episodes where I'm doing
Speaker 3: like like reports, so like the Resistance is basically like
Speaker 3: the group that's trying to you know, get all of
Speaker 3: the the overall crap out of everything and trying to
Speaker 3: expose the you know, all these entities for what they
Speaker 3: really are, and you get like these little things of
Speaker 3: like little reports like daily weekly reports of this is
Speaker 3: what we did, This is what the Resistance did. You know?
Speaker 3: We have this uh you know operator at this location
Speaker 3: and he's given out this information and all this stuff.
Speaker 3: So like that was like kind of like one of
Speaker 3: the big things I was working on, and I was
Speaker 3: doing that out of my car.
Speaker 1: So it was like found footage reports almost like after
Speaker 1: action reports that you're reading as a portion of the audiobook.
Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly. It's like there's no video to it or anything,
Speaker 3: and you know, I edited out I edit everything to
Speaker 3: where like my voice has like its own like filter
Speaker 3: on it to where like it sounds as if like
Speaker 3: you are are listening to some sort of like old
Speaker 3: timey like radio or or something in that in that regards.
Speaker 3: So like it's been pretty cool, it's been pretty fun.
Speaker 3: I haven't been able to update it in a while.
Speaker 3: So you know, the last thing I currently did was
Speaker 3: with Spirit Animal and the episode with h Randy Bauer,
Speaker 3: and you know that's completely something completely different, But I
Speaker 3: mean that episode that we just did. I don't know
Speaker 3: if you know who Randy Bauer is.
Speaker 1: The name's familiar, but I don't think I've ever actually
Speaker 1: had the pleasure older gentlemen.
Speaker 3: So yeah, he is. He's a sixty six and he
Speaker 3: lives in Minnesota up towards like the northern point of Minnesota.
Speaker 3: But he has been having bigfoot interactions.
Speaker 2: Okay, okay, very cool and.
Speaker 3: Like after talking to so like I talked to this
Speaker 3: dude for like an hour like the like a couple
Speaker 3: of days like before we even record it, and like
Speaker 3: I was just completely mind blown, Like it completely made
Speaker 3: me think differently about how everything with bigfoots and like
Speaker 3: what we what we think about them? Like I don't
Speaker 3: I don't think like it's the missing link, you know,
Speaker 3: I don't think that it's these things that just are
Speaker 3: living here and stuff. Like I am one hundred percent
Speaker 3: on board with the fact that they're interdimensional. They do
Speaker 3: not live here. They come here, and you know, like
Speaker 3: Scott Pace.
Speaker 2: I was just about to bring up Scott Pace. So
Speaker 2: you talked with him too.
Speaker 3: No, I have not, but I've I've listened to I've
Speaker 3: listened to him on like all the all the shows
Speaker 3: on here, bro I will connect you.
Speaker 2: He's a home.
Speaker 4: Is that the one with the ones in her the
Speaker 4: living in his house?
Speaker 2: Yep?
Speaker 4: Okay, that's what I thought, Okay.
Speaker 5: And then we just had somebody else though that we
Speaker 5: just spoke to timfoil Tales.
Speaker 4: Maybe somebody we.
Speaker 5: Just talked to just was talking about how they don't
Speaker 5: believe that Bigfoot is here. It was him because you remember,
Speaker 5: we're talking about interdimensional that there was no proof of,
Speaker 5: like they haven't really found a body or anything, and
Speaker 5: so it'd make more sense that they're interdimensional than actually
Speaker 5: like physically present here.
Speaker 3: And like this dude is like having them inside of
Speaker 3: his house too. There's like so many connections between him
Speaker 3: and Scott and the things that are going on between them.
Speaker 3: Both of them are hunters. Okay, yeah, so they know
Speaker 3: the land, they know that. Oh hey, when I'm out here,
Speaker 3: this is how things go, this is what I know
Speaker 3: to look for. And then he starts finding different anomalies.
Speaker 3: And then so like, uh, the dude who was like
Speaker 3: in charge of Monster Quest the TV show. Yep, So
Speaker 3: he's been up there and there's been like a whole
Speaker 3: book that's been written about him, like they could they
Speaker 3: call it the Skinwalker Ranch of the North, and he
Speaker 3: had he added me to a private page of his
Speaker 3: I think it's called like Randy's Bigfoot Research or something
Speaker 3: like that, and like starts showing me like all the
Speaker 3: evidence that he's actually getting and it's wild. Dude's been
Speaker 3: gifting him jars of peanut butter. Okay, jars of peanut butter.
Speaker 1: Why is it every animal in the wild get down
Speaker 1: a peanut butter.
Speaker 2: That is the ship.
Speaker 3: But now but now, get this. He takes these jars
Speaker 3: of peanut butter and he goes out there and he
Speaker 3: has a different gifting spots. Okay, takes the lids off
Speaker 3: of him, peels the paper off, puts the lid back on,
Speaker 3: and then he sets them up on a tree. So
Speaker 3: he's like, you know the difference between an animal gets
Speaker 3: this and when the sasquatch get this, because when the
Speaker 3: animals get it, the jar is destroyed. It's there's bite marks,
Speaker 3: there's all the things, and the inside of the jar
Speaker 3: has still got a plenty of residue left over it.
Speaker 3: When they get it, the jars come back like you
Speaker 3: put it in a dishwasher. Oh shit, completely clean. And
Speaker 3: then on top of that, they're taking the lids and
Speaker 3: they made a triangle on the like a big triangle
Speaker 3: on the ground, and they're putting them in their color coordinated.
Speaker 5: Huh Okay, I really want to talk to this guy now, Yeah,
Speaker 5: that's crazy.
Speaker 3: He's a talker and he'll sit there and talk like
Speaker 3: he's had all these things. So, like I said, him
Speaker 3: and Scott a lot of similarities. So, like one of
Speaker 3: the things that Scott said is like he started going
Speaker 3: out there and he started singing, and he started getting
Speaker 3: a bunch of you know, things happening when he was singing.
Speaker 3: Same deal. Randy. He is he owns his own like
Speaker 3: music recording company there in Minnesota and stuff, and he's
Speaker 3: like always been a singer in a band and everything.
Speaker 3: So like he started going out and he started doing that.
Speaker 3: So a little thing is a lot of people always
Speaker 3: have like, you know, bad smells when like they're around
Speaker 3: and he's like, it's not real. The smells aren't really
Speaker 3: it's all in your head. They're putting these things into
Speaker 3: your head how I don't know, but he goes, this
Speaker 3: is how I know that they're doing it. He was
Speaker 3: out there with a group of people and when he
Speaker 3: was started singing, like the whole forest calmed down, everything
Speaker 3: got real silent. But when he stopped, all the other
Speaker 3: guys besides him started getting the real pungent smell. And
Speaker 3: when he would start singing again, it would go away.
Speaker 3: And he was able to keep doing this, keep doing this,
Speaker 3: keep doing this. Now here's another thing that's really really
Speaker 3: weird about it. We're now somehow bridging the gap between
Speaker 3: this and the paranormal. And what I mean is so
Speaker 3: like when I go and I do investigations and whatnot,
Speaker 3: like I'll take a digital voice recorder with me and
Speaker 3: I will have that on me and I will look
Speaker 3: listen back for EVPs. He's getting EVPs from them as well.
Speaker 1: So real quick for any of our cult members are
Speaker 1: listening that may not be too familiar.
Speaker 2: Explain what a EVP.
Speaker 3: Is electronic voice phenomenon.
Speaker 1: So we're talking about like a not a spirit box
Speaker 1: or what that's called, where it's basically like a radio
Speaker 1: you go in and do ghost hunting and you hear shit,
Speaker 1: that's not what we're talking about here.
Speaker 3: No, like you could get like so like most of
Speaker 3: your phones, like you can go when you can have
Speaker 3: the voice recorder app same thing, you can use that
Speaker 3: and you can you can get you know, EVPs just
Speaker 3: doing that for some reason, when you're recording something digitally,
Speaker 3: you start picking up sound that you don't audibly hear, right,
Speaker 3: And he was sitting there having a conversation in the
Speaker 3: woods and so like he lives on forty acres of
Speaker 3: land and behind him is eighty acres of state land,
Speaker 3: but it's landlocked between a bunch of different old farmers.
Speaker 3: He's like, I don't even talk to these farmers, Like
Speaker 3: they don't know nothing about what I do out here.
Speaker 3: There's no way for anyone from the public to be
Speaker 3: able to get to this land without going through one
Speaker 3: of their properties. I'm the only person that hunts back there.
Speaker 3: No one else does, and that brings me in another thing.
Speaker 3: He was sitting there saying, because like there's a whole
Speaker 3: bunch of people out there, and I mean, I guarantee
Speaker 3: you can think of a ton of them off the
Speaker 3: bat that when they go out doing these bigfoot searches
Speaker 3: and stuff, like they take their AR fifteen's with them
Speaker 3: and this and that and what do they not usually
Speaker 3: get interactions up when they're out there, right? But it's
Speaker 3: because they know better now.
Speaker 1: And I don't know Randy's story, but I remember Scott
Speaker 1: was telling us he was out in the woods hunting
Speaker 1: the first time he had an experience with this. And
Speaker 1: I mean, granted, a hunting rifle and an AR are different,
Speaker 1: I understand that. But he wasn't out there with I
Speaker 1: don't want to say murderous intent, but he wasn't out
Speaker 1: there like strapping up for combat. He was out there
Speaker 1: to harvest a deer. I'm assuming Randy had something very similar.
Speaker 3: He had lots of them, and like he's had encounters
Speaker 3: to where literally they are this close to his face.
Speaker 4: Can he see that or are they like not visible?
Speaker 3: He has seen them, He has seen them walk out
Speaker 3: of portals. M he has like I said, like he
Speaker 3: has found different types of structures. So like one of
Speaker 3: the big things that people always find are like the exes.
Speaker 3: Well he's also like Randy, they're talking to him via
Speaker 3: the mind called it mind speak, and again that just
Speaker 3: is like that makes a lot of sense when like
Speaker 3: different people are having the same kind of things happen
Speaker 3: to them. And so like they're telling him like, hey,
Speaker 3: these xes, these are not you know, uh, they're they're
Speaker 3: boundary markers, and that's why we put them there. But
Speaker 3: not like boundary markers for like you and I, not
Speaker 3: boundary markers for them either, boundary markers for the other
Speaker 3: cryptids that live in the woods that we know nothing about,
Speaker 3: even they know nothing about humans than us, us humans
Speaker 3: nothing about them.
Speaker 4: And then marking their territory pretty much.
Speaker 3: Not really marking their territory. They're marking it so these
Speaker 3: other things don't go further.
Speaker 1: So they're doing it to protect the other cryptids from
Speaker 1: being discovered by humans.
Speaker 3: Well that or to protect us from the other cryptids
Speaker 3: that are out there. Wow, And like he even will
Speaker 3: have he's got pictures of stuff where he'll wake up
Speaker 3: in the morning and he'll go outside and he'll have
Speaker 3: little things x'es all over in front of his front door.
Speaker 3: They've also been gifting him numerous deer skulls and other
Speaker 3: animal skulls. And I think like one of them looks
Speaker 3: like it's like it's really big. It's way bigger than
Speaker 3: a deer. It's almost like a moosehead, Like it's so
Speaker 3: big shit, And like he's got a whole like little
Speaker 3: tiny like I don't know, maybe like a little eight
Speaker 3: to ten foot trailer, you know, flatbed trailer that he
Speaker 3: has sitting back there, that he his whole thing is
Speaker 3: covered and they put him on his doorstep.
Speaker 4: Wow.
Speaker 1: So he acknowledges the Bigfoot to be a good or
Speaker 1: kind entity, right, because you'll hear that a lot of
Speaker 1: in the same squaanched community. Half of them believe that
Speaker 1: they are evil in their monsters or you might even
Speaker 1: hear them be called demonic or nephelimic. And then the
Speaker 1: other half believe that these are very good nature, you know,
Speaker 1: of the forest creatures. Some even believe they're in the
Speaker 1: angelic realms. There's two very split decisions as far as
Speaker 1: this goes. Randy is of the belief that they are
Speaker 1: positive creatures.
Speaker 3: For the most part. They don't they don't do anything.
Speaker 3: He's had some bad things happen to him, like I said,
Speaker 3: like he's had them inside of his house so much
Speaker 3: so that one time he came home, the house has
Speaker 3: completely locked up, Like he lives out in the middle
Speaker 3: of nowhere. And he when he got in there that night,
Speaker 3: he went to go to lay down for bed, and
Speaker 3: like he got in his bed and he was like
Speaker 3: he first of all noticed that his bed was soaking wet,
Speaker 3: like to the box spring soaked, and then it had
Speaker 3: an awful smell with it too, And then he realized,
Speaker 3: this is piss.
Speaker 2: The Bigfoot's pissed in his bed.
Speaker 3: Dog Yeah, and like he could he couldn't figure out
Speaker 3: why picks. Then he started thinking about it. One of
Speaker 3: the times he had been out there, he was by
Speaker 3: one of the structures that he came across, and he
Speaker 3: just so happened to go and he just took a
Speaker 3: leak pretty close to it, to this structure, not on it,
Speaker 3: but pretty close to it. And he said that the
Speaker 3: younger ones are the ones that seemed to be more mischievous,
Speaker 3: and that we'll sit there and do these things. So,
Speaker 3: like I said, he had all that he said, I
Speaker 3: couldn't sleep in my bed that night. So he went
Speaker 3: sleup on the couch, grabbed his clothes for the next day,
Speaker 3: brought them out in the living room, set them down
Speaker 3: to the next morning. He wakes up. His clothes are
Speaker 3: completely soaked, wet what so like. He ended up he
Speaker 3: had to go went back out there. When he did
Speaker 3: his gifting, was like, hey, I'm so sorry, Like, I
Speaker 3: you know, my bad. I didn't mean to, like, you know,
Speaker 3: let's kind of go past that. He hasn't had it
Speaker 3: happened since, you know. Another thing, he had came home
Speaker 3: one night and no one was home. It was all
Speaker 3: locked up, he was dark. Out he went and he
Speaker 3: had gotten to the kitchen and he had put his
Speaker 3: hand on the kitchen table to move his brand new
Speaker 3: laptop that he had gotten. Well, the laptop was all
Speaker 3: like wet and sticky, and he was like, what the hell?
Speaker 3: And then he turned the light on and there is
Speaker 3: a popsicle that had been opened. The popsicle was melted
Speaker 3: and everything all over the laptop and the stick was
Speaker 3: on the whole opposite side of the table.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I thought that was gonna go a whole different
Speaker 1: direction scene. I thought like, hold, are you telling me
Speaker 1: that the sand squatch done gooned it out and like
Speaker 1: left the stickiness all over. I thought we were going, okay,
Speaker 1: a popsicle got you? Okay, Okay, So that's wild.
Speaker 4: I mean did they destroy it? Because he was talking about.
Speaker 3: Them like he couldn't he couldn't figure out other than
Speaker 3: just like he just believes that the young ones are
Speaker 3: just kind of mischievous and they will sit there and
Speaker 3: they'll they'll do they'll do pranks. So like he'll have
Speaker 3: like you know, banging on like the side of his
Speaker 3: house this and that they'll they'll mimic, you know, the
Speaker 3: sounds of humans, like he had one time he was
Speaker 3: sitting at home by himself, and like he heard like
Speaker 3: a bunch of banging and he was like, it's nine
Speaker 3: o'clock at night, who's banging on my door? And like
Speaker 3: he couldn't he was like, okay, So he starts walking
Speaker 3: and all of a sudden, like he hears like a
Speaker 3: woman's voice say three times brandy, real real loud, and
Speaker 3: he was like, oh, there is someone here. And he
Speaker 3: gets to the door and there's no one there, but
Speaker 3: yet he's having like where you can get huge handprints
Speaker 3: and stuff all over the side of his house. He's
Speaker 3: had you know, people that come to record at his
Speaker 3: place and they also have experiences. He's had twenty eight
Speaker 3: different people come there who have all had experiences of
Speaker 3: seeing stuff, hearing things. He has a little camper out
Speaker 3: there for like band members to like stay in at night,
Speaker 3: and they're having like the whole entire camper like shaking
Speaker 3: back and forth, pounding on stuff to where like a
Speaker 3: couple of windows end up getting cracked because like the
Speaker 3: bangs were like so hard on it. It's absolutely wild
Speaker 3: some of the things that he's had out there. And
Speaker 3: like I said, so like he was he had to
Speaker 3: stop taking his rifle out there, and then that's when
Speaker 3: he started getting more interactions, is when he stopped doing that.
Speaker 3: He's like, I still take my pistol with me because
Speaker 3: there are bears, there are cougars, there are wildlife out
Speaker 3: there that I need to be able to protect myself from,
Speaker 3: but like they have to be up close and personal
Speaker 3: for me to be able to, you know, successfully take
Speaker 3: them down. A rifle on the other hand, that's a
Speaker 3: different story, Like you're gonna hit something along range with that, right,
Speaker 3: So he stopped doing that, and then he started, you know,
Speaker 3: going out and talking. Like I said, he was gifting them,
Speaker 3: you know, peanut butter apples, things like that, which another thing.
Speaker 3: So these gifting spots, he's not always just doing food.
Speaker 3: He's also leaving other things, little trinkets, dice, wooden blocks,
Speaker 3: little uh, the little circular glass marbles that you use,
Speaker 3: not marbles, the same things that you would use in
Speaker 3: the game. What's it called mancala or whatever.
Speaker 2: I know, I know what you're talking about.
Speaker 1: I don't know what they're called because growing up, we
Speaker 1: call them Indian tears, and I'm pretty sure that's not
Speaker 1: okay to say, so I know the thing you're talking
Speaker 1: about though.
Speaker 3: Right, But like he would do that, and he'll go
Speaker 3: and he'll rearrange them into different patterns, and then he'll
Speaker 3: be like, what can we what can you do with this?
Speaker 3: And then he'll take a picture of it so he
Speaker 3: knows how he left it, and then when he comes back,
Speaker 3: it's completely different and it'll be a completely different design.
Speaker 3: Now the whole whether or not they're good or evil part.
Speaker 3: Now here's another thing that's interesting. Anytime he takes the
Speaker 3: stuff and he puts it into the design of a cross.
Speaker 3: They don't fuck with it. They destroy it. They really
Speaker 3: they will not do anything. But like they'll end up
Speaker 3: taking like the dice and they'll flip them all over
Speaker 3: to where it's six sixty six. Oh, I don't know
Speaker 3: if that's mischievous or or what the deal is. But
Speaker 3: like he goes, I've never I've never felt threatened by
Speaker 3: by them, like they're gonna hurt me or anything like that.
Speaker 3: And so you know, it's it's hard to it's hard
Speaker 3: to say.
Speaker 1: Really that's very very different than Scott pays the stories
Speaker 1: because he believes these are something akin to angels, right,
Speaker 1: and so when you hear this, we're like the sound
Speaker 1: of the cross and they tear it down.
Speaker 2: That's that's wild. And then the dice with the six
Speaker 2: is not like you said that.
Speaker 1: It could be the younger ones they're being mischievous and
Speaker 1: just kind of playing a prank or something.
Speaker 2: But see, this is there's so many different opinions.
Speaker 3: Yo has.
Speaker 2: He's had the experience with dog men do.
Speaker 3: On camera. The camera caught some very strange things that
Speaker 3: he can't explain. So he used to have a bunch
Speaker 3: like trail cams out there and a lot of the
Speaker 3: times the trail cams end up getting pulled down face
Speaker 3: down or turned to where their they're backwards, where like
Speaker 3: you can't see anything, and then the batteries are drained
Speaker 3: and the SD card is wiped clean. Not even a
Speaker 3: picture of him setting the camera up. M okay. So
Speaker 3: one of the times he took a camera out there
Speaker 3: and he said, I want you guys to make this
Speaker 3: camera no longer work at all. He came back a
Speaker 3: day or two later, check the camera. The camera's face down, batteries, Uh,
Speaker 3: completely dead, SD card is wipe clean, and guess with
Speaker 3: that camera no longer or does really no longer works.
Speaker 4: That's weird.
Speaker 3: It's very very weird. It's very very strange. Like I said,
Speaker 3: like he's got so many things just like going on
Speaker 3: happening out there, and I'm just like, bro, you're only
Speaker 3: twelve hours away.
Speaker 4: I'm I'm gonna say.
Speaker 5: I was like, if you're not that far, you should
Speaker 5: go out. She I mean, we've been inviting cross the country.
Speaker 1: Don't even Scott has invited us to go camping on
Speaker 1: his family land to meet the Sasquatch for years.
Speaker 2: That invitation has been open. And I want to take
Speaker 2: them up on it.
Speaker 1: But at the same time, my brother was slaying some
Speaker 1: deer Cassachi National Force this past hunting season. So if
Speaker 1: I go out that way, I wanted to be during
Speaker 1: hunting season because like apparently the deer are just plentiful
Speaker 1: out that way, But I don't know. One of these
Speaker 1: days I want to. But then I also hearing these stories.
Speaker 1: I want to get Scott and Randy on the pot of.
Speaker 5: The That's what I've been sitting here thinking about it.
Speaker 5: If they like talk, yeah, I talk at the same
Speaker 5: time and talk about their different differences and similarities, would
Speaker 5: be a very interesting thing to listen to.
Speaker 2: The first hand account Bigfoot debate.
Speaker 4: I'm writing it down right now.
Speaker 1: Because Scott believes that these are, like I said, of
Speaker 1: the angelic realm. He even quotes portions of the Bible
Speaker 1: to signify this. And you know what a chaffon is
Speaker 1: or so far, it's a it's like two ram horns
Speaker 1: that are made into one horn with one mouthpiece. And
Speaker 1: in the Hebrew culture, these were blown to crush the
Speaker 1: walls of Jericho from the Old Testament, so and it's
Speaker 1: traditional Hebrew and Jewish things. But he says that he
Speaker 1: got together with a couple of other bigfoot. I don't
Speaker 1: want to call him bigfoot truthers, but like for lack
Speaker 1: of let's call them that.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Sasquatch enthusiasts, and all of them have, by their
Speaker 1: own emission, first handcounts of these creatures. They went out
Speaker 1: to the desert and they blew on one of these things,
Speaker 1: and allegedly ten different clans of Sasquatch showed up because
Speaker 1: they heard the battle cry. They were coming to help
Speaker 1: out the humans in need. And I'm like, wait, what
Speaker 1: So to hear the stories of them tearing things up
Speaker 1: and then to hear this, it's like, I wonder if
Speaker 1: there's different plans.
Speaker 4: I wonder Fay.
Speaker 1: I mean it could be something of the fay who
Speaker 1: says the fairies are gorgeous. They might be giant, hairy,
Speaker 1: smelly creechers.
Speaker 2: We don't know.
Speaker 5: Well what does he say they look like? Well, I
Speaker 5: guess this is a question. We can just ask him.
Speaker 5: I have him on But I'm like, now I'm curious.
Speaker 5: I'm like, are they what.
Speaker 3: We believe the same thing that everybody else reports anywhere
Speaker 3: from eight to ten feet tall, you know, big brown,
Speaker 3: very bulky, very you know, very strong looking. They got
Speaker 3: like the cone kind of shaped head, a little bit
Speaker 3: different than you know, my sighting here that I had
Speaker 3: when I was sixteen. But nonetheless, and like something else
Speaker 3: that he pointed out was a lot of you know,
Speaker 3: these shows and stuff, they are just shows and they're
Speaker 3: just strictly entertainment and there's not any really truth behind them.
Speaker 3: So like you know, like there was that show was
Speaker 3: like finding Bigfoot or whatever, and they're like going out
Speaker 3: there and they're hooping and hollering and they're taking big
Speaker 3: sticks and they're smacking them on trees, and.
Speaker 2: That one dude cracked me out.
Speaker 1: This dude's like three hundred pounds just sitting there talking
Speaker 1: to the camera this and this, and you just hear
Speaker 1: a bird in the background that's a squatch, and it's like.
Speaker 2: Bro, come on now.
Speaker 1: At that point I thought he was committing to the bit,
Speaker 1: but as the episode went on, it's like, no, no,
Speaker 1: he believes what he is saying right now.
Speaker 5: I mean, but crows are crazy, Like Ravens. Excuse me not, Chris,
Speaker 5: Ravens are insane. If you've ever listened to them, like
Speaker 5: go to TikTok and listen to the ravens. They have
Speaker 5: such a wide range of different sounds.
Speaker 4: And mimics they can make.
Speaker 5: I think I think it's like anywhere between like one
Speaker 5: hundred and two fifty or something different sounds because they
Speaker 5: can talk just like their owners to the point where
Speaker 5: they can't.
Speaker 4: You can't tell who's who.
Speaker 2: They're like parrots.
Speaker 4: Oh they're better than parrots. You about ravens.
Speaker 5: You cannot tell their voice. You cannot tell the voice
Speaker 5: from Like if I had one that I raised right
Speaker 5: now and I spoke and I was like, hey, it
Speaker 5: would say hey, just how I say it, exactly to
Speaker 5: the pitch and everything.
Speaker 2: I had no idea.
Speaker 5: There's a lot of stories about hearing voices in the
Speaker 5: in the forests and stuff or anywhere, and it's actually
Speaker 5: them and they're crazy.
Speaker 4: Like the one goes Tickle Dockle. That one is that they.
Speaker 1: Fucked me up in the woods and I hear something
Speaker 1: that I'm already kind of feeling weird about, and this
Speaker 1: fucker's gonna growl, tickle tickle let me.
Speaker 5: But he goes He's like I'm unloading into the trees.
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, I no, And he just wants scratches. He's
Speaker 5: like all about love no, but there's a couple of them.
Speaker 5: They're really cool, and I watched a whole bunch about
Speaker 5: them to learn about about the different ones. It's but
Speaker 5: that's a common misconception. I didn't realize they had such
Speaker 5: a range and being able to mimic so many people
Speaker 5: in phrazes. They can memory and memorize whole freezes, and
Speaker 5: they know how to like talk to you and stuff.
Speaker 5: It's really weird.
Speaker 1: But to that point though, Yeah, so you got the
Speaker 1: Sasquatch hunters that go into the woods and they're making
Speaker 1: it's for content, right, whether it's for cable access or
Speaker 1: whether it's for YouTube, it is that and you could
Speaker 1: tell that this is a bit right.
Speaker 2: You could tell they're doing this just it. It's the
Speaker 2: same as like the ghost hunters.
Speaker 1: I'm not saying that people are not out there actually
Speaker 1: putting in the work to talk to the other side.
Speaker 1: I'm saying that the dudes that are on Discovery Channel
Speaker 1: with their boxes and it's like everything is in infrared,
Speaker 1: and they like they have a bunch of shots of
Speaker 1: them like getting scared for no reason, Like this is
Speaker 1: your one hundredth house you've walked into, You're still scared
Speaker 1: because you heard a thing.
Speaker 5: It's like, I feel like you'd be so just desensitized
Speaker 5: by that point.
Speaker 4: Exactly, Okay, cool, exactly, so good to.
Speaker 5: See again, like, hey, hey, Martha's U demons.
Speaker 2: It's me your boy.
Speaker 3: Like the knocking, so like that's one of the big things,
Speaker 3: is you know, oh, they're they're knocking on this, they're
Speaker 3: knocking on that. And he says, no, they're not. They
Speaker 3: never have been. What the knocking is is them popping
Speaker 3: in and out of our reality.
Speaker 2: So when a portal opens, it sounds like a door
Speaker 2: getting knocked on.
Speaker 4: They pop pop it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's just like the big like like somebody took
Speaker 3: a stick against you know, a tree and whatnot. And
Speaker 3: so one night him and his wife's son, who's like
Speaker 3: he's like age, he's in his thirties, they were out
Speaker 3: in a deer stand and it was the mill of
Speaker 3: nite and they were basically shoulder to shoulder and they
Speaker 3: were just sitting there and I don't know if you've
Speaker 3: ever seen the Northern lights or not, what the Northern
Speaker 3: lights look look like in person.
Speaker 4: In person, it's on the goal.
Speaker 3: Lucky. We got lucky enough. Just like a month or
Speaker 3: two back, those big storms like we had had. It
Speaker 3: actually happened, and I've never seen that before until then.
Speaker 3: So he said, this was about like the size of
Speaker 3: like a you know, a doorway, like you know, however
Speaker 3: high a door door is, right, and but like the
Speaker 3: the width of like three combined, and it just was
Speaker 3: like this color and it just kind of appeared out
Speaker 3: of nowhere. And he watched one walk out of it
Speaker 3: into the woods and when it closed, it made the
Speaker 3: pop and he and that, you know, he confirmed with
Speaker 3: with them, you know, speaking to him, and he said, like,
Speaker 3: you know, when they speak to me, it it's it's
Speaker 3: it's something that you can't just you can't really describe
Speaker 3: because like it just takes over your whole entire body,
Speaker 3: your whole beating, like just from your head to your toe,
Speaker 3: like you just feel every cell in your body just
Speaker 3: is like you know, almost like vibrating, you know. And
Speaker 3: so like he was saying, like, that's that's when they
Speaker 3: do it. And like he was sitting there, you know,
Speaker 3: talking to you know, his his you know son or whatever,
Speaker 3: Tanner and was like, are are you are you seeing
Speaker 3: this too? And he was like, uh, yeah, I am,
Speaker 3: And like he doesn't go back to the eighty anymore.
Speaker 3: He only will stay in their property. He won't go
Speaker 3: back into there, like he's too freaked out by the thing.
Speaker 3: And again he's a hunter too, Like they go out
Speaker 3: and they hunt for deer in the winter because like
Speaker 3: that's that's their source of meat, is going hunting. You know,
Speaker 3: all these big white tail out there. So it's like
Speaker 3: you can't be a hunter and then also be scared
Speaker 3: of seeing something that you're seeing. I mean, it's, well,
Speaker 3: that's one thing if you're seeing a bear, knowing damn well,
Speaker 3: that bear could maul you to death. But like seeing
Speaker 3: something that makes a bear kind of look like a pussy,
Speaker 3: that's that's a whole different that's a whole different ballgame,
Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: God Dog, So so he had these experiences.
Speaker 2: His son has witnessed them as well.
Speaker 1: I was gonna ask if he was married earlier when
Speaker 1: he said his bed was pissed on, I was like, yeah,
Speaker 1: I bet his wife was so mad. Like I could
Speaker 1: just imagine unless it's like at the at the hunting
Speaker 1: camp versus at the house or what.
Speaker 2: I don't know. I don't know the situation, but.
Speaker 3: It was it was their home she wasn't. She wasn't there.
Speaker 3: She was working up at a resort on uh just
Speaker 3: over the border into Canada. There's like a big lake
Speaker 3: and there's like some like three islands that are all
Speaker 3: kind of like right by each other. I can't remember
Speaker 3: what they're what they're called. I ended up having to
Speaker 3: look of it. I think it's called like uhl of
Speaker 3: like of the Woods or something like that. So she
Speaker 3: wasn't there, she was she was working at that at
Speaker 3: that time. And like, yeah, he's got like a dog,
Speaker 3: but like he's like, there ain't no way that my
Speaker 3: golden retriever is going to peace so much to head
Speaker 3: to toe on my mattress.
Speaker 2: Yeah, no doubt, no doubt. Yeah, you have it pulled
Speaker 2: up on your phone though.
Speaker 5: Yeah, so this is Ragnar. This is one of the
Speaker 5: one of them, the raven named Ragnar. Yeah, so this
Speaker 5: is one of them. He's the tickle tickle one. So
Speaker 5: hang on, let's see.
Speaker 3: Bro yo.
Speaker 1: If I'm in the woods and I hear that ship,
Speaker 1: I'm losing it him.
Speaker 2: Fuck that.
Speaker 3: The problem solved.
Speaker 1: And smart too, I've seen I've heard about that. They
Speaker 1: are like really really smart. Telligent on that.
Speaker 5: Regard that one and then the other one she's this
Speaker 5: other lady.
Speaker 4: This one didn't Ravens.
Speaker 5: So this one is wings and wild Lands is the
Speaker 5: other one. So she these two are very famous, and
Speaker 5: she actually so this is the one that mimics her
Speaker 5: voice perfectly.
Speaker 4: And she has tons and tons and tons of sayings
Speaker 4: that she does. She's really picky though.
Speaker 5: She doesn't like to be film saying them, so sometimes
Speaker 5: she's harder to get but she likes to talk to hers.
Speaker 4: Let me see if I can spine. Her name is
Speaker 4: Sybil Fable. Over the last seven years that she's been
Speaker 4: with let's see why the.
Speaker 6: Video clips I'm going to show you are only a few,
Speaker 6: and other things that she doesn't do anymore.
Speaker 2: So she used to more different sounds.
Speaker 4: She likes to collect, so she.
Speaker 2: Has favorite words and favorite sounds.
Speaker 3: She likes to make and find those changes.
Speaker 4: Let me see if I can get it to.
Speaker 2: She sometimes fixates. She sometimes fixates on a certain.
Speaker 4: Words yes, and then you.
Speaker 2: Here, okay.
Speaker 4: They like to say all sorts of stuff that's her Wow.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I stand by my statement.
Speaker 4: She's saying hi.
Speaker 5: She loves to say hi Hi, and she sounds just
Speaker 5: like her owner Ravens.
Speaker 2: Don't are.
Speaker 1: They're not indigenous to Louisiana, thank god. I'm sure some
Speaker 1: pet has gotten out there and everything. But ye know,
Speaker 1: if I'm in the woods hunting in the Bayou where
Speaker 1: I already know that, like panthers exist and ship oh.
Speaker 4: My god, you are the panthers.
Speaker 1: Whatever, it's a thing, big long tail cat. Yes, not
Speaker 1: actually an African panther, that's still yeah. Yeah, and it's
Speaker 1: so many people. Oh that's not a real thing.
Speaker 2: Bro.
Speaker 1: I got so many trail camera footages. I've seen one
Speaker 1: with my eyeballs twice. We have them here. Regardless what
Speaker 1: Wildlife and Fisheries is willing to acknowledge, but whatever I
Speaker 1: already know to keep my you know, my hackles raised
Speaker 1: when I'm in the woods, especially woods that I'm not
Speaker 1: too familiar with.
Speaker 2: If I hear some fucking tuckle tuckhole from a fucking tree.
Speaker 3: Bro.
Speaker 5: They like to mess with people too. They're extremely I mean,
Speaker 5: we know crows are very intelligent too. I mean, hew,
Speaker 5: that one guy trained those crows that were wild to
Speaker 5: start bringing him stuff like they did like an exchange. Oh,
Speaker 5: boys made like almost ten k so far from these birds.
Speaker 2: You can train these birds.
Speaker 5: Oh, they feel money they bring money back and stuff.
Speaker 5: But yeah, so they are actually common in jigenous and
Speaker 5: wide ranges of areas in northern Europe, British Isles, Greenland Island,
Speaker 5: and most of North America extending to Nicaragua.
Speaker 2: No, yeah, god damn it. Yeah, Okay, that's what I
Speaker 2: don't have to worry about now.
Speaker 5: Super cool guys, they're really cool though, So that that
Speaker 5: actually plays a lot into a lot of people's lore. Though,
Speaker 5: when you're out in the forest and you hear things,
Speaker 5: just because they used to mimic people, and they would
Speaker 5: wait and they would like watch you, and they would
Speaker 5: say sayings at you. If they heard it enough times,
Speaker 5: they would start just say it. So like that's why
Speaker 5: she likes to say hi a lot, because she hears
Speaker 5: her owner say hi to her. She'll be like, hey now,
Speaker 5: I'm hungry, Hey now, and she'll say your name. She's like,
Speaker 5: I'm feeble, feeble, feeble. Help Because Ragnar, he just really
Speaker 5: likes to say tickle tickle a lot because he likes
Speaker 5: love so and he likes to growl at people.
Speaker 1: Well, now we have to worry about that. Were in
Speaker 1: the woods. That's a fun thing. You didn't know that, No, No,
Speaker 1: I don't know, Ravens are so cool. Okay, So wait,
Speaker 1: way backtracking to the sasquad here, So is this going
Speaker 1: to be one chapter of the audiobook that eventually makes
Speaker 1: it to print.
Speaker 3: No, this actually is completely separate from that. This is
Speaker 3: a regular, regular episode because since I haven't been doing
Speaker 3: all the other stuff, because I was recording all those
Speaker 3: episodes in my car, I ended up because I was
Speaker 3: working for RV Place and we had a got I
Speaker 3: got so lucky on this. We had a RV that
Speaker 3: showed up to our lot that was a repoke and
Speaker 3: they had everything leapt in this all of their belongings,
Speaker 3: all the stuff. We even found, like the husband was
Speaker 3: like ex military, like he had a some sort of
Speaker 3: like honor that was like in like a green like thing,
Speaker 3: and like I reached out to his wife and stuff
Speaker 3: so we could try to get it back to him,
Speaker 3: and like we never you know, got anything. But we
Speaker 3: also like had found like some other sketchy stuff that
Speaker 3: I kind of seemed like there was some abuse going on,
Speaker 3: so we kind of, yeah, we kind of left it.
Speaker 1: To have that veteran living in an RV down by
Speaker 1: the wherever with his old lady.
Speaker 3: Yeah, like him and his wife. They were they were
Speaker 3: traveling the country and they were like making content and stuff.
Speaker 3: So one of the things I just so happened to
Speaker 3: find was a road wireless go to two microphone one
Speaker 3: receiver and I was like, okay, that's my kept, you know. Yeah,
Speaker 3: so like I was able to take that. I ended
Speaker 3: up getting a cord from that connected to the receiver
Speaker 3: into my iPhone to where I could just record straight
Speaker 3: to that, and that's how I was able to do everything.
Speaker 3: And I just did everything on my lunch break and
Speaker 3: just put everything together. So like that's when I was
Speaker 3: doing that. But like I said, I've been having so
Speaker 3: much stuff going on that I haven't had the chance
Speaker 3: to continue doing all that. But not only was I
Speaker 3: doing that, but I was just kind of doing regular
Speaker 3: solo episodes of just different different topics. One of them was, uh,
Speaker 3: I think the episode is called Patent Wars, and it
Speaker 3: just went over like some of like the crazy different
Speaker 3: patents that are out there that don't seem to be
Speaker 3: real that you're a patent way and like it's yeah,
Speaker 3: there's some like wild wild stuff and you're just kind
Speaker 3: of like this technology exists, you know, like you know,
Speaker 3: like guys brought up before, you know, the heart attack gun,
Speaker 3: Like you know, that's that's on there and that's an
Speaker 3: absolutely real thing, and you're just like, okay, Like if
Speaker 3: we have these patents for this technology, Like there's even
Speaker 3: patents for time machines, whether or not they actually are functioning,
Speaker 3: someone was able to make a patent for it. So
Speaker 3: what does that tell you?
Speaker 1: So and I'm not saying this to discredit what you're saying.
Speaker 1: There's absolutely that kernel of truth somewhere in there. However,
Speaker 1: it doesn't take much to get something patented as long
Speaker 1: as you're willing to pay the fee and get somebody
Speaker 1: to sign off on. It's like you, I've seen some
Speaker 1: patents that are ridiculous, to say the least, where it's
Speaker 1: literally somebody's like fever dream, they wrote down on paper,
Speaker 1: found a patent office and got it approved and like
Speaker 1: that was it. They don't have to have like a
Speaker 1: working functional model to go off of. It's more of
Speaker 1: the concept and then but to that point, there are
Speaker 1: so many patterns of things that have working models, and
Speaker 1: some of these things can be mass produced. I mean,
Speaker 1: to cure for cancer, for instance, there's multiple patent numbers
Speaker 1: that are so allociated with cures, not treatment options, but
Speaker 1: cures for cancer. And when you do the digging into them,
Speaker 1: you look at the chemistry, you look at the pharmaceuticals
Speaker 1: behind it, and it's like, no, no, this this is
Speaker 1: based in reality. Right now, there's one I just learned
Speaker 1: about this about autism. There is a it's a type
Speaker 1: of salt. I'm trying to remember what it is. But
Speaker 1: basically they were doing this as an experiment and they
Speaker 1: give it in other countries.
Speaker 2: It is illegal in this country.
Speaker 1: In America, if you're caught with this solution, it's like
Speaker 1: thirty years federal prison, no questions asked. And in multiple
Speaker 1: places in Africa, Asia and Europe they were doing.
Speaker 2: Some testing with this.
Speaker 1: They gave these kids, like over the course of ten
Speaker 1: days a single treatment, and they found that ninety nine
Speaker 1: percent of the children tested showed drastic advances in fine
Speaker 1: motor skills, social communication. They basically swapped them over to
Speaker 1: being normal kids, which showed that autism is not a
Speaker 1: it's not something that you're born with or at least
Speaker 1: not in all cases. It was showing that it is
Speaker 1: more like trauma to your actual DNA that is making
Speaker 1: them be this way, and then we could have the
Speaker 1: conversation as to what did that. Was it the vaccines,
Speaker 1: was it the food they were given, was it the
Speaker 1: medications that There's so many things you can break down
Speaker 1: on that, but it showed that we now know that
Speaker 1: autism is not what we once thought it was. And
Speaker 1: as soon as that research came out, America was like,
Speaker 1: what's the name of that?
Speaker 2: All right, cool band, like hardcore band.
Speaker 4: I've actually never heard of this. I'm curious to read
Speaker 4: into this now.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna have to get with you.
Speaker 5: Patten's in a side tangent though, Thomas Edison, Oh, piece
Speaker 5: of shit, piece of shit canake. I just want to
Speaker 5: like wrap that up really quick, because there I was
Speaker 5: doing this gigantic project and building a whole you know,
Speaker 5: electrical grid situation for my child because I can't do
Speaker 5: anything small, and I'm like looking into.
Speaker 4: This and I was like, oh, yeah, I mean, I'm
Speaker 4: he invented.
Speaker 2: The light bulb and this and that, or so you've
Speaker 2: been told.
Speaker 5: And then we did the research into him actually what
Speaker 5: he truly invented versus what he stole and took the
Speaker 5: patents for, right, and he actually really did not invent
Speaker 5: pretty much anything. He invented, God, what is it called.
Speaker 5: It's where you talk into it and it digitally records
Speaker 5: your sound like actually on a paper, like in a
Speaker 5: small section, but it's it's not what we used today
Speaker 5: as like a recording machine. He did a couple other things,
Speaker 5: but realistically he pretty much took from his took from
Speaker 5: people around him. He took from his the inventors in
Speaker 5: his like underneath them in his little umbrella. He had
Speaker 5: a couple of them underneath them, and he took their
Speaker 5: inventions and patent him for himself. He patented like two
Speaker 5: thousand inventions, but the majority of them he never even created.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: And also most of them he never even had his
Speaker 1: hands on. He just he was really really good at
Speaker 1: filing paperwork before they could.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Meanwhile, he had Nikolai Tesla, who was making true groundbreaking innovations,
Speaker 1: and found out that there were other people around the
Speaker 1: world copying his stuff to work on it on their own.
Speaker 1: There were some Dutch scientists that were taking his designs
Speaker 1: and trying to enhance him and make them better. Somebody
Speaker 1: came to him was like, yo, you need to do somebody,
Speaker 1: this is plagiarizing He's like, no, no, no, let them work.
Speaker 2: They're doing good things over there.
Speaker 4: Yeah, what they do is the.
Speaker 5: AC and DC conversation between Tesla and Edison is what
Speaker 5: they were arguing about, and ultimately we went with Tesla's anyways,
Speaker 5: and so it was. It's weird though that when it
Speaker 5: comes to patents, I have like a weird pet project.
Speaker 5: When I read patents, I like to go in and read.
Speaker 5: Especially in California of all places, they have an obscene
Speaker 5: amount of patents that don't make sense or that people
Speaker 5: really should know about. But they're just kind of under
Speaker 5: the rug when it comes to what actually is being
Speaker 5: patented and what's being used for people.
Speaker 1: So we use d C in certain regards, at least
Speaker 1: an industry we did, but it was for specific.
Speaker 4: I thought that reverse I think AC, I think is.
Speaker 2: What AC's what's coming out of the walls, and that
Speaker 2: is that's Tesla's. Yeah, DC works as well.
Speaker 4: That was essence.
Speaker 1: When you get to the higher voltages, man, DC that
Speaker 1: that bitch plays for keeps a C will at least,
Speaker 1: you know, have a little leeway with it. You can
Speaker 1: manipulate a little bit better. DC is like no, I
Speaker 1: got your ass or I'm letting go. There's a there's
Speaker 1: no playing with that ship. That's why we only use
Speaker 1: it for low voltage.
Speaker 4: I definitely got that backwards. I would say that.
Speaker 3: Twelve bolt systems twelve both systems and RBS is pretty
Speaker 3: much almost always d C over ever everything, if I
Speaker 3: got a multimeter and I got to like figure out
Speaker 3: whether or not something broken or not, it's always on DC.
Speaker 3: It's rarely on a cr C. Is like if we're
Speaker 3: if we're working on something that has to do with
Speaker 3: like the shoreline, so yeah, like your your one ten
Speaker 3: outlets and things like that, which again those are not
Speaker 3: rated for what they're supposed to be anyways. So like
Speaker 3: that's why like a lot of people, especially this time
Speaker 3: of year, they're putting all these like space heaters and
Speaker 3: plugging them into their their outlets and then like their
Speaker 3: whole entire RB is catching on fire. Well, yeah, it's
Speaker 3: because it's not rated for that, right, it's not going
Speaker 3: to That's why your ship's catching on fire.
Speaker 1: A lot of people don't know that though, a lot
Speaker 1: of people don't know like anything that produces heat, and
Speaker 1: by that I mean a hair dryer, a toaster, electric oven,
Speaker 1: a space heater. If this is an electrical device that
Speaker 1: is made to put off heat, that bitch is using
Speaker 1: so much voltage that if you don't know what you're.
Speaker 2: Doing, you're gonna fry your shit.
Speaker 5: But a lot of people, well, I mean it's not
Speaker 5: common when I say common knowledge, it's not something that's
Speaker 5: commonly taught to most people that are so like, hey,
Speaker 5: don't do this, don't do this. This is why those
Speaker 5: scenes aren't really taught to people. So unless you actually
Speaker 5: know about it, then how are you gonna know unless
Speaker 5: they maybe see a TikTok about it and then they're like, oh,
Speaker 5: maybe they shouldn't have done that.
Speaker 2: I'll put it like this.
Speaker 1: If you're about to plug in anything like in your bathroom,
Speaker 1: there's a reason why the GFCI is the plug by
Speaker 1: your sink, right. And then on top of that, hair
Speaker 1: dryers usually have an internal GFCI on the plug. If
Speaker 1: you're plugging in a device into your home that has
Speaker 1: one of those, this is one of those things that
Speaker 1: you might want to just do a little bit more digging.
Speaker 1: I'm not saying that to belittle anybody, because nobody's born
Speaker 1: knowing shit. We just this is one of those public service.
Speaker 1: Now to everybody, don't burn your house down because you
Speaker 1: didn't realize how to push the little button, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean? But so all right, you are doing
Speaker 1: things in so many regards I didn't realize. So you
Speaker 1: took a break for a while. Yeah, life things happen.
Speaker 1: Life be life, And now you're back in it?
Speaker 2: Are you?
Speaker 1: How much content are you putting out? How much of
Speaker 1: this audiobook you're working on?
Speaker 5: Like?
Speaker 3: How how is I Also I'm still on pause on that. Okay,
Speaker 3: I'm in between jobs right now, so like I'm just
Speaker 3: kind of like doing other other things. So like in
Speaker 3: my spare time, I've just been live streaming a lot
Speaker 3: on Twitch.
Speaker 2: How is that going?
Speaker 1: Dude?
Speaker 4: We can claim that to us because we keep hearing
Speaker 4: it from people.
Speaker 5: I've seen it all over TikTok, and I don't know
Speaker 5: a single thing about it nothing.
Speaker 3: So I mean a lot of people are using it
Speaker 3: for like gaming purposes, that's like pretty much the big thing.
Speaker 3: But like you can like stream pretty much anything. Like
Speaker 3: so like a lot of people use like zoom to
Speaker 3: like record and like stream and this and stuff. Well
Speaker 3: you can do a stream yard and like I just
Speaker 3: start using stream yard and I can connet Extreme Yard
Speaker 3: to my tuition and be able to live stream lay
Speaker 3: out whatever I'm doing on there as well. Like it
Speaker 3: doesn't have to be strictly you know, video games. But
Speaker 3: I've just been just playing my Xbox and I've been
Speaker 3: playing a rather kind of old game, Tom Clancy's The Division.
Speaker 3: Hell yeah, And I mean and that in its own
Speaker 3: like just the storyline behind that game is pretty is
Speaker 3: pretty wild.
Speaker 1: I mean anything Tom Clancy has got a wild storyline
Speaker 1: to it.
Speaker 3: And then absolutely and this is like you know, bringing
Speaker 3: in like viruses and like the whole country just completely
Speaker 3: being wiped out due to a virus that was created
Speaker 3: in a laboratory and then let loose on the public
Speaker 3: on Black Friday.
Speaker 1: So then I'm replaying Double O seven GoldenEye with my
Speaker 1: son right now, and it's all about stopping this hacker
Speaker 1: from getting to the Golden Eye satellite and ruining the world.
Speaker 2: And it's like to us in the nineties, that was
Speaker 2: like whoa, they could hack a satellite. These days it's
Speaker 2: like yeah, brother, like for sure, but like.
Speaker 1: To your point, the Tom Clancy one virus could shut
Speaker 1: down the electrical grids, It's like, yeah, for that day
Speaker 1: and age.
Speaker 2: That was wild shit, absolutely.
Speaker 3: Right, right. So, like all I've been doing is just
Speaker 3: like I I you know, Xbox one. I don't even
Speaker 3: have fancy Xbox, but this game is seven years old.
Speaker 3: I'm like playing the second one. The third one is
Speaker 3: supposed to be coming out. I'm not sure when, but
Speaker 3: like you know, I just go from there. I click
Speaker 3: the you know, start live stream, and it starts recording everything.
Speaker 3: Plus it immediately notifies my phone because I have the
Speaker 3: Twitch app on my phone, and then I can manage
Speaker 3: everything what I'm doing right then and there and be
Speaker 3: able to see like the whole the whole chat screen
Speaker 3: and when somebody pops in and this and that, and
Speaker 3: then once I'm done, I can go back in. I
Speaker 3: will take my phone, I will go and I'll play
Speaker 3: the video of the gameplay, and then I'll start just
Speaker 3: like screen recording it to where I'm I can just
Speaker 3: start taking little clips out of it this and that,
Speaker 3: and then I'm taking that into YouTube or not YouTube,
Speaker 3: but uh TikTok and making little little videos and stuff
Speaker 3: and putting on TikTok. And since I'm doing that, so
Speaker 3: many other people that I've been on this game had
Speaker 3: just been like flooding my algorithm like crazy, and like
Speaker 3: it's like it's sitting there. It's picking up, but like
Speaker 3: not like a lot, but like it's picking up. Like
Speaker 3: I'm regularly, like almost daily, getting somebody new who also
Speaker 3: plays the game, or I'm finding other content creators who
Speaker 3: also play the game, and like it's just it's just
Speaker 3: it's it's so much fun. Like I mean, there's just
Speaker 3: so much aspects to the game, Like it's it gets overwhelming,
Speaker 3: but like that's pretty much you know what I've what
Speaker 3: I've been doing, and like I can even like use
Speaker 3: like my sound console and like my microphone. I can
Speaker 3: hook that all up with my computer or not a computer,
Speaker 3: but my controller and stuff on the Xbox, and I
Speaker 3: can do the whole ninety yards. I just I just
Speaker 3: need to get a what's called a capture card and
Speaker 3: then I can put that and then I can use
Speaker 3: the computer and be able to then hook that to
Speaker 3: the Xbox as well. And then that's when like you
Speaker 3: see the guys who have like like the crazy like
Speaker 3: borders going across the top of the screens and they
Speaker 3: got like green screens in the background like all that stuff.
Speaker 3: So like it's just it's super It's super fun. And
Speaker 3: like currently right now it's like a winter event, so
Speaker 3: like everything is all Christmas theme, Like they threw a
Speaker 3: bunch of Christmas stuff in there, and like they added
Speaker 3: like this whole event where you can fight these this
Speaker 3: faction that are the Crampist and they're they got masks
Speaker 3: like Crampist, you know, they got like the crazy like
Speaker 3: horns coming out of like their head and like they
Speaker 3: just like crazy demonic with like a big one tongue
Speaker 3: and stuff. And like you can do that to be
Speaker 3: able to to get like different, you know, stuff in
Speaker 3: the game that you wouldn't normally be able to get
Speaker 3: just playing open world, and so like that's pretty cool.
Speaker 3: So like last night, I hopped out and I was
Speaker 3: playing for a little bit and I was about to
Speaker 3: go do one of the bounties for one of the
Speaker 3: you know, the Crampest bounties, and I had just walked
Speaker 3: out of the safe house. I'm probably not even like
Speaker 3: thirty yards out the room, and all of a sudden,
Speaker 3: like I get this notification at the time hop same
Speaker 3: the Crampus have appeared, and I'm like where, I don't where.
Speaker 3: I'm like I'm getting shot at and I'm like, oh,
Speaker 3: they got guns, they got fame throwers.
Speaker 5: They're like capture you or something, right, Okay, all of.
Speaker 3: A sudden, like I you know, so I take cover
Speaker 3: in front of this car because like I'm getting shot
Speaker 3: from above, and I'm like, what the heck? And then
Speaker 3: all of a sudden, I see flames out of no where.
Speaker 3: The game completely glitched and like the characters were already
Speaker 3: in there, but they weren't actually showing up like on
Speaker 3: screen until like two seconds later at that point. And
Speaker 3: by that point, like I got like three dudes with flamethrower.
Speaker 3: It's just sitting there just blazing me up. And then
Speaker 3: this other dude with a sledgehammer just comes in and
Speaker 3: and I'm done.
Speaker 4: Just like like the they're like the predator crampuses going on.
Speaker 3: Oh my god, it yeah, it's it's it's wild. So
Speaker 3: like that's pretty much like the big thing that I've
Speaker 3: been doing. And then since like I've had more time
Speaker 3: to be here, I'm like, Okay, well, you know, I'll
Speaker 3: hop on this podcast. I'll hop on that podcast record
Speaker 3: with Sam, you know, and it's you know, it's slowly
Speaker 3: but hopefully here, you know, after a while, I'll be
Speaker 3: able to get on, you know, back doing it more regularly.
Speaker 3: But that's you know, that's where I'm at currently.
Speaker 4: So use a lot of time.
Speaker 2: It does.
Speaker 5: It takes a lot of time, a lot of effort
Speaker 5: to do this. I think a lot of people don't
Speaker 5: quite understand it. I didn't even I mean, I've been
Speaker 5: around and watching from behind the scenes, so I understood.
Speaker 4: A good bit of you know, a good bit about it.
Speaker 5: But then when I actually am having to do it,
Speaker 5: I'm like, dear God, the amount of time. I feel
Speaker 5: like I'm constantly watching, watching stuff, looking at stuff, reading stuff,
Speaker 5: trying to you know, keep up with everything that's going on.
Speaker 1: Everybody looked at me like I was addicted to my phone.
Speaker 1: It's like, no, no, I'm reading a whole thing that's
Speaker 1: going to be used for my work in a few hours.
Speaker 1: Or I'm watching a doc or something like I'm.
Speaker 5: In the car now, like we don't even need to
Speaker 5: listen to music anymore. My kids are like, why do
Speaker 5: we have to listen to this again? And I'm like,
Speaker 5: we're then my kids are getting into it. They're like, wait,
Speaker 5: what the government is lying to us? Watching all sorts
Speaker 5: of random stuff, And my kids are like, wait, is
Speaker 5: that what's really going on?
Speaker 4: And what is this? What is that? And I was like,
Speaker 4: I don't know, let's look it up.
Speaker 1: Never too early to teach your children not to trust
Speaker 1: the government. Good cult members out there just.
Speaker 4: Say questions always.
Speaker 1: But yeah, so I mean it'd be like that, right,
Speaker 1: And then you realize I wish I could just doom
Speaker 1: scroll YouTube.
Speaker 2: I remember those days where I could just I'm not
Speaker 2: gonna lie.
Speaker 5: You left town because he went out of town for
Speaker 5: some for some family stuff, and normally we'd be working
Speaker 5: on content and stuff. And when he was gone, I
Speaker 5: was like, oh my god, I I power read two
Speaker 5: books in two days. Yes, like I read full, like
Speaker 5: five hundred page books in two days. I was like,
Speaker 5: oh god, because I have not been able to read
Speaker 5: anything like that.
Speaker 4: I've wanted to read.
Speaker 5: And while I still working on Patreon stuff, but the
Speaker 5: Patreon wasn't working, I was like, Okay, I'm gonna make
Speaker 5: sure that I can get through these books. And I
Speaker 5: mean I read read, like read hard, So I mean
Speaker 5: it'd be like that, but I feel like I don't.
Speaker 5: I haven't found that happy balance yet of like doing
Speaker 5: this not letting it consume me versus still enjoying some
Speaker 5: of my pastime hobbies.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that work life balance is a little different when
Speaker 1: you're working for yourself and from home, because then it's
Speaker 1: like a whole other level to that work life.
Speaker 5: Phone deans and people hit the Patreon and then I'm like, oh, well,
Speaker 5: I gotta go check out what's going on.
Speaker 2: You gotta turn them notifications all.
Speaker 5: Yeah, but I turn off everything else because I was
Speaker 5: like the Patreon, I'm I mean, because like they're already
Speaker 5: you know, the members and stuff. I'm like, okay, well,
Speaker 5: I want to make sure I'm writing back people and stuff.
Speaker 1: So that's why I was like, you know what, I'm
Speaker 1: just gonna check it like once a day and I'll
Speaker 1: message people back and it'll be good. But I will say,
Speaker 1: since you came on board, like so many things are
Speaker 1: getting done and like comments are getting like message back
Speaker 1: to not just the dms, and I'm like, yeah, I
Speaker 1: probably should have been doing it like this the whole time.
Speaker 2: Must be real here.
Speaker 4: Yeah, Like I try to reach out to everybody.
Speaker 5: I try to let people know who they're talking to, too,
Speaker 5: because sometimes like you can't tell between the two of us,
Speaker 5: and so I try to at least let them know
Speaker 5: like that it's me.
Speaker 4: A lot of times it's me just let you know, So.
Speaker 3: You've been mentioned like you know, trying to get like
Speaker 3: different different guests like you know, to to have on
Speaker 3: and this and that. So like something that I've been
Speaker 3: doing kind of behind the scenes for the past like
Speaker 3: three almost three years now since I've you know, started
Speaker 3: doing this show was just it's networking, and networking is
Speaker 3: really really big and a lot of people don't realize that.
Speaker 3: But like like I said, like I have a a
Speaker 3: whole entire group chat that is just nothing but podcasters,
Speaker 3: all different podcasters across the country, and you know a
Speaker 3: lot of them are are guys that you know, you
Speaker 3: know troubles Garcia. Uh you know white rabbit.
Speaker 2: Catalysts.
Speaker 1: Yep, I'd ask there's so many differ to ones there
Speaker 1: list as white rabbits something follow the white rabbit down
Speaker 1: the white rabbit hole.
Speaker 2: Just make if you're talking about old catalyst Jones.
Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, So like I got like a whole bunch
Speaker 3: of these guys on here because I'm just like, you know,
Speaker 3: I might not be able to have like the time
Speaker 3: currently to have you know, these guys on or be
Speaker 3: able to hop on their show, but I have them
Speaker 3: in the pocket, so that way, when I do have
Speaker 3: the time to be able to get on more, I'm
Speaker 3: not sitting there trying to worry about who, like I'm
Speaker 3: going to get a hold of who's going to be
Speaker 3: able to do this, who's going to be able to
Speaker 3: do that? And so much so that me and a
Speaker 3: couple other guys we have been thinking of this idea
Speaker 3: that we're trying to work on to where we are
Speaker 3: going to try to create our own podcast, you know,
Speaker 3: podcast conglomerate. Yeah, dude, kind of like how kind of
Speaker 3: like how you guys have like, you know, different different
Speaker 3: shows within your show. So like we're sitting here making
Speaker 3: you know, all everything of how we're going to put
Speaker 3: it together to where we're going to have multiple shows
Speaker 3: all on one platform, and it won't be like under
Speaker 3: one specific shows you know, Purview. It's gonna you know,
Speaker 3: it's just gonna be like everybody's will be its own thing.
Speaker 3: And then on top of that, we'll have it to
Speaker 3: where like maybe like once or twice a month, all
Speaker 3: those different shows get together for a big live, you know,
Speaker 3: big roundtable where everybody's sitting there talking and like we
Speaker 3: I had this idea for like some time, like even
Speaker 3: before you guys had started doing it, and so I
Speaker 3: was just like, but the thing is, like, you know,
Speaker 3: especially what canhen you start getting into monetization and trying
Speaker 3: to figure all that stuff out, Like it's not it's
Speaker 3: not easy, especially if like one show is doing like
Speaker 3: a lot better than the others, and so it's like,
Speaker 3: you know, you you want to be fair, but at
Speaker 3: the same time, it's like, well, we can't equally give
Speaker 3: everybody the same amount if like that person isn't really
Speaker 3: getting the views compared to this one here, that's really
Speaker 3: just you know, holding the boat afloat. So I've been
Speaker 3: lucky enough to that one of the guys that you
Speaker 3: know I have in the group, he was like, hey,
Speaker 3: I think I know how to make this possible. So
Speaker 3: like me, him and two other dudes, we kind of
Speaker 3: started getting together and now we are forming this to
Speaker 3: where that's what we're going to be able to do.
Speaker 3: So hopefully here in the future we'll be able to
Speaker 3: do that, and then everybody will also be able to
Speaker 3: get their own monetization according to what their actual downloads
Speaker 3: are within that platform compared to you know, just giving
Speaker 3: so and so this much, that so and so that much,
Speaker 3: and you know it's you're going to get what you're
Speaker 3: you know, you're putting in more or less. So like, yeah,
Speaker 3: I'm looking forward to that as well.
Speaker 5: I like the round Table idea a lot, a lot
Speaker 5: about that. We kind of went on that. We went
Speaker 5: on that Christmas thing and there was a whole bunch
Speaker 5: of us in there, and that was really cool. I
Speaker 5: like being able to be with a big group of
Speaker 5: people and listen.
Speaker 2: To those crypt women that were hosting that right now, yes, yeah.
Speaker 4: The women's yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 5: So I liked being able to be in there and
Speaker 5: see everybody's different opinions on the same kind of things,
Speaker 5: because I mean, everybody has a different take or view
Speaker 5: on every type of conspiracy and every type of cryptid
Speaker 5: and every type of everything that's happening. I mean, my
Speaker 5: views are completely different from your views, which are different
Speaker 5: from yours. And I think it's really cool to be
Speaker 5: able to get together as a group and kind of
Speaker 5: discuss them and hash out ideas and theories and bounce
Speaker 5: them off each other and well what about this, what
Speaker 5: about this?
Speaker 4: I actually really enjoy those types of podcasts.
Speaker 1: And we tried to form our let's just call it
Speaker 1: the cult, the cult collective, right of. I think right
Speaker 1: now we have like seven and we're bringing on an eighth.
Speaker 1: Are we going to have seven or Tenfoil Tails is.
Speaker 4: Going to be joining us. So yeah, he's awesome. I
Speaker 4: love that guy.
Speaker 3: I live very close to the brand, and we're also
Speaker 3: in the same music scene together. Yes, I'm initially from Wabash, Indiana.
Speaker 3: He's from Peru, Indiana. It's the next town over.
Speaker 4: Okay, he's so great. I enjoyed him a lot.
Speaker 3: I love listening to Brandon. I love his show, and
Speaker 3: like he's done a lot. I'm waiting for his documentary
Speaker 3: that he's been working on miss Sinewa Triangle to come out,
Speaker 3: so like that even brings it into my Bigfoot experience.
Speaker 3: A lot of the areas in which he has done
Speaker 3: filming is in the same area. Fuck yeah, it's all
Speaker 3: part of the missus Sinewa Reservoir. And so where I
Speaker 3: had my sighting was in the area of the eighteen
Speaker 3: twelve battlegrounds, and he used to be reenactments out there
Speaker 3: and this and that. Well they have stopped doing that
Speaker 3: because of land dispute. I don't think that it's really
Speaker 3: a dispute on land. I think that the DNR Conservation
Speaker 3: all that. I think that they're very aware of the
Speaker 3: Sasquatch stuff that's going on out there, and this is
Speaker 3: their way to keep people out of the area. That
Speaker 3: just makes the most sense to me, especially after talking
Speaker 3: to Randy. So with that being said, me and Brandon
Speaker 3: also have another strange, cryptid experience that we have had
Speaker 3: that I had no idea that he had until I
Speaker 3: brought it up. And I had this in broad daylight.
Speaker 3: I was on my way to work. I was working
Speaker 3: at a different RB place that's just like twenty minutes
Speaker 3: away from where I currently live. And I was going
Speaker 3: and I can see down the road because like I'm
Speaker 3: between like country roads basically, and I can see and
Speaker 3: it's like kind of hilly too, and I can see
Speaker 3: on the other side of the hill. It looked like
Speaker 3: somebody running from the right hand side to the road
Speaker 3: and then running back, and I was just kind of like, well,
Speaker 3: what the heck. It kind of looked like maybe like
Speaker 3: a kid was like just like running waiting like on
Speaker 3: like a school us or something, maybe had like a
Speaker 3: backpack on something like that. So he's I see this,
Speaker 3: and I can also see that there is a jeep
Speaker 3: driving towards me as well. And when I'm sitting there
Speaker 3: watching that, I watched it run away, and then I
Speaker 3: watched it run back, and then it came and went
Speaker 3: away again. And then after that jeep passfire that would
Speaker 3: have been, I watch it run a second time, and
Speaker 3: then it turned and starts running behind the jeep towards it,
Speaker 3: So it's now coming at me, and I'm like, and
Speaker 3: I'm watching this, and I'm just like, what the heck
Speaker 3: is going on here? Right? Because the movements was really
Speaker 3: really sporadic, kind of like the wacky wavy inflatable arm
Speaker 3: feeling tube man had, like one of those things, is
Speaker 3: just kind of like all over the place, or like
Speaker 3: in a Silent Hill the movie, the first one, when
Speaker 3: Sybil and Rose run across that thing that's got no arms,
Speaker 3: no face, and it's like spewing like the acid out
Speaker 3: of it. It kind of similar to to like this.
Speaker 3: And so I'm watching this thing running towards me, and
Speaker 3: then it it kind of cuts into this yard there
Speaker 3: on the right, and as it cuts into that yard,
Speaker 3: I watch it phase into nothing, absolutely nothing like it
Speaker 3: just completely just it was gone, and I was just like,
Speaker 3: what right, what was that?
Speaker 4: Like, im facinating my high that I didn't know.
Speaker 3: But I'm like, I'm like, I haven't smoked that much, Like,
Speaker 3: come on, now, you know there. You can't tell me
Speaker 3: I didn't see that. And I'm just like, how did
Speaker 3: this other vehicle and not see this either? Running behind
Speaker 3: them down the road. And so like I immediately I text
Speaker 3: my girlfriend. I tell her I don't know what the
Speaker 3: hell I just saw. Also, I then went and I
Speaker 3: got a hold of Brandon and I was like, Brandon,
Speaker 3: I don't know what I just saw. Man, this is
Speaker 3: blowing my mind. And then I told him and he
Speaker 3: was like, I've got to tell you, dude, I had
Speaker 3: was the exact same experience. And that's his story about
Speaker 3: him driving down that road in the middle of the night. Yeah,
Speaker 3: and there was something standing in the middle of the
Speaker 3: road and he's like it looked like it had no
Speaker 3: arms and it just had this real kind of sporadic
Speaker 3: movement about it. He had to swerve, and then when
Speaker 3: he went back there was like a dog man thing
Speaker 3: there and so like to this day, I have I
Speaker 3: have no idea what that was. And I had no
Speaker 3: idea about his experience until he had told me about it.
Speaker 3: And you know, I've gone I know the exact word.
Speaker 3: I drove on that road the other day where he
Speaker 3: had his experience, and I just was telling my girlfriend
Speaker 3: about it. I was like, you know, telling her like
Speaker 3: this is this is where he had this happen, this
Speaker 3: and that, and it just it makes no it makes
Speaker 3: no sense. There's weird things that go on here and
Speaker 3: I don't know, so like there's a a local historian
Speaker 3: that does a lot of stuff like the fulklore and
Speaker 3: things like that, and he also believed that there is
Speaker 3: some type of paranormal triangle and Wabash sits a dead
Speaker 3: center in this. And on top of that, like he
Speaker 3: has had some very strange things happen himself. And I
Speaker 3: can't remember where all the three points were exactly.
Speaker 2: I think like it we just had him on a
Speaker 2: show and he told us.
Speaker 1: But I'd be lying if I repeated them because most
Speaker 1: of those cities are Native American as fucked sounding, so
Speaker 1: I'm probably mispronouncing him any damn ways, I don't know.
Speaker 4: He actually is the reason the inspiration behind me doing
Speaker 4: the Alaskan Triangle.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we just stopped an episode on that.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I just did.
Speaker 2: So.
Speaker 5: He was my inspiration behind that because he had mentioned
Speaker 5: it and I was like, I'd never heard of this,
Speaker 5: and then once I started to look into it, man,
Speaker 5: oh man, the Alaskan Triangle is wild, but.
Speaker 1: The Indiana Triangles are absolutely a thing for sure.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so so well I was gonna say, so, we're
Speaker 1: bringing him on at yeah this week, start of the
Speaker 1: start of the new year. So next week he'll be
Speaker 1: dropping his first uppisode on Monday. But we we started
Speaker 1: doing this to kind of mimic you know, Chris from
Speaker 1: Forbidden Knowledge News.
Speaker 3: Yep, Chris Matthew.
Speaker 2: Yeah, excellent guy, and he kind of had something.
Speaker 3: That's the first show I went on, no doubt.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And I love Chris to death, and he has
Speaker 1: kind of a collective that he has kind of made
Speaker 1: unto himself and then some other podcasters that I am
Speaker 1: a huge fan of. They even started their own app
Speaker 1: and their own streaming service. They own the service to
Speaker 1: it and all these things. And like you've ever heard
Speaker 1: of Kentucky Ballistics or the ak Guy on YouTube or
Speaker 1: Donut Operator or Angry Comes right, So not Donut from
Speaker 1: the conspiracy world.
Speaker 3: Not I know you're talking about.
Speaker 1: So they all have gotten together with a demolition ranch
Speaker 1: Matt Chrricter, and he just retired from YouTube, but they
Speaker 1: decided to start their own app called Pepperbox, and pretty
Speaker 1: much any of their homeboys that they think would be
Speaker 1: a good fit for it, they like offer them a
Speaker 1: percentage of the company, and they do all this. But
Speaker 1: keep in mind, each of these independent YouTube channels and
Speaker 1: streamers and all of these things are independently worth multimillions.
Speaker 1: So like when we're talking about this, it's we're talking
Speaker 1: different levels here, We're talking different calibers.
Speaker 2: Cult A conspiracy is not there.
Speaker 1: I'm nowhere near yet yet we're speaking it into existence.
Speaker 3: Well, I mean, have you seen where you guys sit
Speaker 3: currently on the top one hundred conspiracy shows.
Speaker 2: I have not, because it depends on the list.
Speaker 1: Whenever me and Jonathan started this shit, so we're listening
Speaker 1: under philosophy and you would go on Apple Podcasts and
Speaker 1: type in philosophy, and we were at one point like
Speaker 1: top twelve philosophy podcasts. But I'm not sure if that
Speaker 1: was because of how much content we were putting out
Speaker 1: or because of how popular we were.
Speaker 2: I have no idea.
Speaker 1: Then there was this thing called chartable and that has
Speaker 1: since gone offline, where it would show where you fell,
Speaker 1: and we were in the top I don't know, like
Speaker 1: I think because it didn't show per category. It showed
Speaker 1: like for all of America, and we were like jumping
Speaker 1: out of our seats. We were in the top thousand
Speaker 1: in America. And then like at one point I think
Speaker 1: we broke the top five hundred. We're like, get the
Speaker 1: fuck out of here.
Speaker 2: I have no idea where we fall on any list
Speaker 2: as of currently.
Speaker 3: Uh, the one that majority of the people like the
Speaker 3: the Occult Rejects and Conspiracy Chaos and a few other
Speaker 3: guys that they all look at. You guys were sitting
Speaker 3: I want to say nineteen out of one hundred. Really,
Speaker 3: Josh Monday is sitting at six.
Speaker 2: Why we just did.
Speaker 1: An interview with him earlier this morning and then I
Speaker 1: love Josh Monday.
Speaker 3: Hell yeah, Conspiracy Chaos is like at like I think
Speaker 3: they were at seventy maybe, I want to say, and
Speaker 3: like that's from them just starting.
Speaker 2: What is this list?
Speaker 5: Yeah, it is a magical list because this would give
Speaker 5: us like people to collab with this magical list. I've
Speaker 5: just started messaging all these people like, hey, let's let's
Speaker 5: all talk.
Speaker 1: But like, so, when I watched what Forbidden Knowledge News
Speaker 1: was doing and I saw what the Pepperbox Crew was doing,
Speaker 1: I realized that, like, there's no competition here, or at
Speaker 1: least I don't think so. There are so many podcasters
Speaker 1: out there that feel like if they collab with too
Speaker 1: many people, then they'll start.
Speaker 2: Poaching their listeners and they'll lose listeners.
Speaker 5: It's like the whole point is to gain each other's
Speaker 5: listeners and to grow independently and together. Though the more
Speaker 5: people the collective that are waking up and asking questions.
Speaker 4: The better overall. So it's all so, I mean.
Speaker 5: I don't really understand that, but I think it's a
Speaker 5: smart idea though, to add people to kind of like
Speaker 5: group together, you know, that way everyone works together because
Speaker 5: one loan person is hard to you know, rise up.
Speaker 5: And then if you guys can be in a group,
Speaker 5: it's everybody can gain people independently and together.
Speaker 4: So at least my mindset.
Speaker 1: Offline me and you could talk more about the business
Speaker 1: side of things. Brother, if y'all are trying to really
Speaker 1: do this, I'm not saying that like, oh, we we
Speaker 1: figured it out, bro, We are still trying to figure
Speaker 1: it out on a day by day basis, But I
Speaker 1: would love to share whatever intel I've got with you
Speaker 1: and your boys to try to grow this fuck yah.
Speaker 1: But but yeah, it's so far, so good, and we're
Speaker 1: still trying to get on more like we're trying to
Speaker 1: get it. At one point, we had it to where
Speaker 1: there was two episodes dropping every single day of the week,
Speaker 1: and Jonathan had metamistics and that was released on like
Speaker 1: three separate episodes throughout the week. Now that he is
Speaker 1: doing just Meta full time, he's only dropping one episode
Speaker 1: a week from on the Cult, which is fine. You know,
Speaker 1: he's trying to make his that independent channel grow and
Speaker 1: like note, who can blame them. So we're still trying
Speaker 1: to fill the slots to where we get too, if
Speaker 1: not three different types of content dropping every single day
Speaker 1: of the week.
Speaker 2: Cause I mean that's the whole goal.
Speaker 1: Most of the listeners to us, especially with the long
Speaker 1: form that we do, are like warehouse workers, truck drivers,
Speaker 1: maybe even we have a few cops, and like they're
Speaker 1: sitting in one spot for twelve hours at a time.
Speaker 1: They would love to have something playing for three of
Speaker 1: those hours and they enjoy that, you know, So the
Speaker 1: more content we can put out, the more of a
Speaker 1: we can cast. And I think that's just kind of
Speaker 1: the goal overall. And hell, if we can boost some
Speaker 1: other people's algorithms in the mix of that and and
Speaker 1: help elevate some people's ship, they can help elevate our shit.
Speaker 2: Then like that's the goal, you know.
Speaker 3: Right, Rising tides raise all ships, as you.
Speaker 2: Say, absolutely absolutely.
Speaker 3: And that's you know, that's kind of the that's kind
Speaker 3: of the thing that we try to try to go
Speaker 3: off of. It's like if we sit there and we
Speaker 3: support each other, then everybody is going to benefit from this. Like,
Speaker 3: the the exposure is going to go multiple ways. It's
Speaker 3: gonna you know, it's going to branch to you, it's
Speaker 3: going to branch to me, it's going to branch to him,
Speaker 3: it's going to branch to her, it's going to go
Speaker 3: to every single person, and everybody starts getting all of that,
Speaker 3: you know, that support from places that they might not
Speaker 3: have you know, been getting listeners and all that different fans.
Speaker 3: You know. I mean, there's so many shows out there
Speaker 3: that it's just like it can be extremely overwhelming, you know,
Speaker 3: and then like all of a sudden, like you find something,
Speaker 3: you're like, oh my god, they've been on this show
Speaker 3: has been around for this long. How have I never
Speaker 3: found them before? And now it's your new favorite show yep.
Speaker 1: And then we got some people that would go back
Speaker 1: and listen from like episode one to now and it's.
Speaker 2: Like, fuck, all, why what is wrong with like nine hundred.
Speaker 4: And fifty six or seventy eight or something like that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we're about to break a thousand episodes and you'll
Speaker 1: have people that find us for the first time and
Speaker 1: it's like, Yo, First of all, hats off to you
Speaker 1: for your for your level of dedication, but also, oh
Speaker 1: my god, the first three hundred were dog shit, Like, you.
Speaker 2: Don't have to go back.
Speaker 5: They were interesting, they were they were unique in eclectic.
Speaker 1: I was drunk most of the time. Jonathan was stoned
Speaker 1: off his ass most of the time. We were you know,
Speaker 1: you guys were a fucking mess. But we never intended
Speaker 1: for this to become like a thing. It's fun, you know.
Speaker 1: And finally we got to where we're making two hundred
Speaker 1: dollars every three months doing this and we're like, we're professionalists,
Speaker 1: fuck dude, Like we were beside ourselves.
Speaker 7: We received a like, ah check for doing this. Then
Speaker 7: we're like, wait a minute, I knew you guys. Then
Speaker 7: when you got your first check, you were all like, bro,
Speaker 7: what is this happening?
Speaker 4: I was like, damn.
Speaker 5: Like I was like, maybe there's a way to make
Speaker 5: money at this.
Speaker 3: Trust me.
Speaker 1: No one was more shocked about that than we were.
Speaker 5: We were listening to one episode and I was like, ooh,
Speaker 5: that's something that is something that is unique individuals right there, like,
Speaker 5: and I'm friends with both of them. So it was
Speaker 5: It's been really interesting to watch the progression and the
Speaker 5: growth of the cult and then to find myself now
Speaker 5: a part of it. Is definitely an interesting thing because.
Speaker 2: You bring a lot to the show, Raven.
Speaker 5: It is it is challenging to fill shoes of Jonathan,
Speaker 5: because you guys have had five years of dynamics to
Speaker 5: meld this, you know, wand and everything and how you
Speaker 5: guys talk with each other and how you flow with
Speaker 5: each other and all of this stuff. And it's interesting
Speaker 5: because like, I've been really nervous and you can tell
Speaker 5: definitely in the first month, I was like, you know, struggling,
Speaker 5: struggle busting. I'm getting better at it, but it's it's challenge,
Speaker 5: Like I don't think people really understand how like crazy
Speaker 5: hard it is to come on and then not get
Speaker 5: your words all jumbled, and then you're stressed out and
Speaker 5: you're sweating and you're like.
Speaker 4: God, damn it, you over here just blapping away.
Speaker 1: And I'm like, and then the amount of research that
Speaker 1: goes into it, and then you dissect it because you're
Speaker 1: putting it out there on the Internet for forever, and
Speaker 1: if you get a date wrong, or you misspell something
Speaker 1: or you MISPRESI I mean it does.
Speaker 5: Like what the Edison and Tesla thing, Like I made
Speaker 5: sure I corrected myself because I knew that if I didn't,
Speaker 5: somebody would be like, you know, you're wrong, and it's like, okay,
Speaker 5: I understand, like I misspoken, I'm sorry. But the problem
Speaker 5: is is that people listen to other people I e. TikTok, Instagram, podcasts, whatever,
Speaker 5: and they take everything literal that you're saying, so without
Speaker 5: doing any further research, they're depending on you to tell
Speaker 5: them the truth and to tell them what what is
Speaker 5: actually factual not And so I try really hard to
Speaker 5: get my stuff factualed. If I am speaking on a
Speaker 5: topic because if no is going to do the extra research,
Speaker 5: I want to at least present it as best as
Speaker 5: possible to people. And when I do screw up, I
Speaker 5: honestly I like dwell on it for like days, and
Speaker 5: I'm like, I want to go back, and I'm like, God,
Speaker 5: I want to go back and say something, and I'm.
Speaker 4: Like, I'm sorry, I didn't mean to get it wrong.
Speaker 2: Like it's a different type of stress.
Speaker 5: It is a different type of stress because I don't
Speaker 5: want to give people misinformation and I try really hard
Speaker 5: to at least present the facts without the bias first,
Speaker 5: and then I'll say whatever it is I'm feeling about
Speaker 5: said topic. But it is interesting, it is hot.
Speaker 4: It is hot, but so you'll have see I'm sweating already, y'all.
Speaker 2: You have people that.
Speaker 1: Will like they're stressed at their job because their boss
Speaker 1: is an asshole, or because they have some big report
Speaker 1: that's due and they got deadlines and this and this,
Speaker 1: and like, yop, I get it. I was in that
Speaker 1: world for a bit and now it's like my stress
Speaker 1: levels are.
Speaker 2: They're not better or worse. It's just different. You know,
Speaker 2: I'm working for yourself.
Speaker 1: Like there's a level of stress that's associated with it,
Speaker 1: and it's there's benefits to working in this regard and
Speaker 1: it is work, Like sure, shooting podcasts is fun, Like
Speaker 1: I'm not going to deny that this is the best
Speaker 1: job I ever had in my life, but there's also
Speaker 1: so much tertiary and background stress associated with every single episode,
Speaker 1: and on the business side of shit and filing tax
Speaker 1: is the right way and making sure that people get
Speaker 1: theirs at the right time and dates and deadlines, and
Speaker 1: it's like you take on just different stress, but they're
Speaker 1: still stressed throughout now.
Speaker 5: I think the big thing is is that I've always
Speaker 5: researched and read things, and I've done obviously, I was
Speaker 5: in school for a hot minute, and I've done lots
Speaker 5: of research papers and all of that kind of stuff,
Speaker 5: and I really enjoy it, but I like I only
Speaker 5: presented it to a small group at a time, sure,
Speaker 5: Or like I, you know, I'd have zoom calls and
Speaker 5: we would like discuss these things. Or I turn in
Speaker 5: these massive papers and like a teacher would read them.
Speaker 5: Now who you know, Now we have TikTok, we have Instagram,
Speaker 5: we have all these people listening on all of these
Speaker 5: different platforms and it's like, oh God, if I'm wrong
Speaker 5: at one thing, I'm like, all my years of research
Speaker 5: and like blood, sweat and tears are down the because
Speaker 5: now you sound like an idiot. And I'm like great,
Speaker 5: and you know then and then to read like the
Speaker 5: hate comments at first was really kind of bothering me
Speaker 5: because I was like, I'm like, god, I'm I was like,
Speaker 5: I get it. I'm not Jonathan, but like I truly
Speaker 5: am trying, and I get that I'm kind of like
Speaker 5: nervous and kind of act weird, but I was like,
Speaker 5: I really am, like I genuinely care that people get
Speaker 5: good information or not, Like I don't want to just
Speaker 5: give bullshit stuff like I'll tell you my opinion and
Speaker 5: my opinion can be totally different from yours. But when
Speaker 5: it comes to like actual knowledge, like the whole thing
Speaker 5: with Alaska, right, like I actually sat and watched all
Speaker 5: these documentaries, I like, read a whole bunch of papers.
Speaker 5: I try to dissect it because I'm trying to make
Speaker 5: sure that I give at least the most factual like
Speaker 5: something say three, something say five. And then it's hard
Speaker 5: because you don't want to say the wrong thing. So
Speaker 5: it's like, well, here's this and this.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, but then it shit.
Speaker 1: Even me being the residentt Christian on the show, I'll
Speaker 1: say something from the Bible and have people Jacob don't
Speaker 1: speak on the Bible unless you know what you're talking about. Like,
Speaker 1: for instance, I brought that Daniel was in the lines.
Speaker 1: Then I said that he was in there for a
Speaker 1: few days. He was in there for one night, Like
Speaker 1: my fucking bad dog, you're missing Oh my god, these
Speaker 1: people drug me and it's like, okay, cool, So one night,
Speaker 1: the haters are gonna hate, the taters are gonna potate,
Speaker 1: and I never claim to be a biblical scholar.
Speaker 2: My bad.
Speaker 4: What do you what do you think?
Speaker 5: Like do you struggle with trying to get everything correct
Speaker 5: so that way people don't feel some type of way.
Speaker 3: I try not to worry about it. I'm more kind
Speaker 3: of just worry about how the episode ends up sounding overall. Yeah,
Speaker 3: compared to like, you know, I'm not going to put
Speaker 3: anything out there that I don't know is what it's
Speaker 3: supposed to be, So like you know, I'm not going
Speaker 3: to just kind of just go off wing and just
Speaker 3: kind of say whatever. But so like I'm I'm not
Speaker 3: a good person. That like, after I put an episode out,
Speaker 3: I then turned back around and I immediately listen to
Speaker 3: it how it sounds, because like it's gonna sit there
Speaker 3: and bother me if like it doesn't sound right, if
Speaker 3: it doesn't sound good, if the the you know, the
Speaker 3: the intro song, because like a lot of the things
Speaker 3: that I was doing was so like, you know, I
Speaker 3: love AI. I love using AI for certain aspects as
Speaker 3: a tool. So like one of the things I like
Speaker 3: to do is at the end of each episode, if
Speaker 3: it has a specific theme, you know, topic or whatever,
Speaker 3: then I'm going to have a custom made AI track
Speaker 3: to go at the end of it. So like it's
Speaker 3: going to be a song, Like if it's about Bigfoot,
Speaker 3: then guess what You're gonna get to hear a custom
Speaker 3: AI Bigfoot song at the end of the episode.
Speaker 1: You know, it's actually pretty cool and one of one
Speaker 1: of the cot I watched the same thing.
Speaker 3: It's a hilarious are super funny in this and that.
Speaker 3: So it's like, you know, making sure that those sound
Speaker 3: good because a lot of times, like AI doesn't get
Speaker 3: it right, and then like the lyrical content is just
Speaker 3: kind of trash and you're like, I don't like this
Speaker 3: and and this and that. So like when I was
Speaker 3: doing the Conspiracy Handbook, you know, chapter, it's like I
Speaker 3: didn't do that, I just had it to where like
Speaker 3: the intro and the outro were just instrumentals and it's
Speaker 3: very dramatic, you know, pianos, that sort of sort of
Speaker 3: thing compared to the other episodes, you know, so like
Speaker 3: I I'm always trying to listen to those, like did
Speaker 3: that sound good? Does my intro music sound okay? Like
Speaker 3: is it just kind of you know, and so like
Speaker 3: I'm more in my head about those kind of things
Speaker 3: compared to you know, whether or not like I, you know,
Speaker 3: got something wrong and then same kind of deal. Like
Speaker 3: you know, I I have everything, and I put everything
Speaker 3: scripted out, you know, on those episodes, so like I'm
Speaker 3: reading off of them, and I'm not the best reader
Speaker 3: in the world, so like I'm gonna you know, fumble
Speaker 3: over you know, my words and whatnot sometimes. But you know,
Speaker 3: it's better that if you can have that, you know,
Speaker 3: that script, you have something that you can read off of,
Speaker 3: compared to just kind of you know, yeah exactly, because
Speaker 3: then like you start running into those those issues of
Speaker 3: what you're doing, like the ums uh, you.
Speaker 4: Know, and thinks I say the likes.
Speaker 5: I know people have commented, but I mean, I'm from
Speaker 5: the West Coast, to be fair, and a lot of
Speaker 5: people who.
Speaker 2: Say, like, you're a woman.
Speaker 5: No I'm talking a white woman according to according to
Speaker 5: me mirror.
Speaker 2: But what likes are something that even I say a bunch.
Speaker 5: You know, you don't say it like I do. I try,
Speaker 5: I don't even I try. I'm trying really hard to
Speaker 5: get better at it.
Speaker 4: I will.
Speaker 5: I feel like I'm a slightly bit better, but I'm
Speaker 5: sure somebody will tell me that.
Speaker 2: It comes with it.
Speaker 1: I used to say like a whole lot in the beginning,
Speaker 1: but then you realize that, like that's a filler word
Speaker 1: and it's not that you need to interject and like
Speaker 1: make it.
Speaker 2: See I just did it again. You don't need to
Speaker 2: do this.
Speaker 4: They're gonna do it a whole bunch.
Speaker 1: But that's fine because that's natural human speech patterns for
Speaker 1: our generation in America. I used to say dude, like
Speaker 1: every fifth word at one point in time. That brad
Speaker 1: so like it's but in time, you develop your own
Speaker 1: flow individually, and then the conversation you learn how to
Speaker 1: sound more intelligent, how to instead of use like you
Speaker 1: would use some other word to kind of segue into
Speaker 1: the next point you're trying to make.
Speaker 2: That's not something that you develop instantaneously. That shit takes time.
Speaker 4: I will say, I'm definitely yeah.
Speaker 5: I heard there's actually an app for conversation and I'm
Speaker 5: speaking Yeah, So I've seen it.
Speaker 4: It's been advertised on my Instagram.
Speaker 2: A ton is it AI?
Speaker 5: I don't know, okay if it is AI or not,
Speaker 5: but pretty much what it does is it teaches you
Speaker 5: how to pattern recognize the way that you speak, and
Speaker 5: how to change it and give you better words to
Speaker 5: say in those filler situations, and how to elevate your
Speaker 5: conversation and elevate your speech patterns. I've honestly thought about
Speaker 5: doing it, just because I know that I say like
Speaker 5: a lot. I try really hard during the episodes not
Speaker 5: to say it, and then I hear myself saying it,
Speaker 5: and then it stresses me out because then I start.
Speaker 4: Saying it more and I'm like, oh God.
Speaker 5: It's one of those things of I'm super hypercritical when
Speaker 5: it comes to doing certain things, and so it's been
Speaker 5: an interesting challenge for me to to take this on
Speaker 5: and go full boar with it.
Speaker 4: So for those people that have been super sweet to me,
Speaker 4: thank you. I love the bunches.
Speaker 5: For the haters, well, hey, haters gonna hate, gonna po tape.
Speaker 1: So you are trying to put more more gas on
Speaker 1: the fire of the podcasting world, for yourself, for this group,
Speaker 1: I'm loving this. I can't wait to see what happens next.
Speaker 1: You said you've been on the show with sam. Is
Speaker 1: there more than one episode you've done with old Samuel?
Speaker 3: I think uh not currently. Okay, I think we are
Speaker 3: going to do a couple more because he had initially
Speaker 3: came to me and was like, do you want to
Speaker 3: do a big fed episode? And I was like, dude, absolutely,
Speaker 3: bro like we're gonna let's do it, and so like
Speaker 3: trying to schedule time to be able to do that
Speaker 3: and everything. But during that time of trying to get
Speaker 3: it all scheduled, I was on Facebook and like I'm
Speaker 3: and like a bunch of different like bigfoot pages and
Speaker 3: different things, and so like I'll see something and I'll
Speaker 3: comment on there and I'll be like, hey, I had
Speaker 3: an experience when I was sixteen. Anyone else who's had
Speaker 3: an experience that would like to come on a podcast
Speaker 3: to be able to talk to me about it, you know,
Speaker 3: message me and we'll get this figured out. And so
Speaker 3: I had this mom and son. They messaged me that
Speaker 3: eventually I'm gonna have to do an episode with them.
Speaker 3: They're over in Idaho, and then like two days later
Speaker 3: after that, Randy sees it and then he messages me,
Speaker 3: and then so I was like his is His was big?
Speaker 3: So I was like, dude, let's do it at this first,
Speaker 3: but then I told him. I was like, hey man,
Speaker 3: we're gonna do multiples of these, because like there's gonna
Speaker 3: be multiple people that are gonna have different Bigfoot experiences.
Speaker 4: You should do a whole series.
Speaker 5: Yeah, do you like the Bigfoot Series or the Bigfoot
Speaker 5: Chronicles or something right exactly.
Speaker 3: I was like, dude, we can just do multiple, multiple
Speaker 3: parts about this with people and their interactions in different
Speaker 3: places of the country, if not the world, depending on
Speaker 3: who reaches out to us. And like, that's also like
Speaker 3: one of those topics that's that's really really big right.
Speaker 4: Now, Yeah, like you know, really big, like.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but uh UFOs that sort of thing that those
Speaker 3: are really really really big episodes. You would think that
Speaker 3: the paranormal would also be really big, but it's not
Speaker 3: nearly as big.
Speaker 1: Since that was hot in the nineties and the early
Speaker 1: two thousands, there flows to it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, it's bigger on YouTube because like you have
Speaker 3: to have like that that video aspect of it of
Speaker 3: what's going on. And I mean I get it. I've been,
Speaker 3: you know, on so many investigations at different places, and
Speaker 3: I've had different experiences happen, and it's like I can
Speaker 3: sit there and tell you about like some of my
Speaker 3: experiences all day long, but like having actual video proof
Speaker 3: of like what's going on is a completely different, you know, ballgame.
Speaker 3: It's just a it's a huge game changer. And like
Speaker 3: when you know, I can sit there and tell you like,
Speaker 3: you know, I had one investigation where we were in
Speaker 3: this house and this family was having this you know, awful,
Speaker 3: awful stuff, Like they were having this horrible smell in
Speaker 3: their child's bedroom. I just smelled like death. The child
Speaker 3: didn't want to sleep in his room and he was
Speaker 3: like three, Like he was absolutely terrified, and like they
Speaker 3: had a super clean, nice house, Like there was nothing
Speaker 3: about this house that was that should have been scary whatsoever,
Speaker 3: but this kid did not want to So like we
Speaker 3: were there during the daytime, and like we were having
Speaker 3: you know, strange K two anomalies where like this thing
Speaker 3: is like, you know, spiking in places where it shouldn't
Speaker 3: be spiking, and like we're able to actually follow it,
Speaker 3: and like it was taking us out of the bedroom
Speaker 3: and into a whole other room and then disappearing on us.
Speaker 3: So like we're getting done, and like the whole group's
Speaker 3: down stairs in the kitchen. I'm leaning in a doorway.
Speaker 3: Behind me is a stairwell to my right, and at
Speaker 3: the top of the stairwell is his bedroom door. There
Speaker 3: was no windows open, nobody opened any door or anything
Speaker 3: like that, but that kid's bedroom slammed shut, and I
Speaker 3: mean slam shut like you ever been like where somebody
Speaker 3: is just absolutely pissed off and they slam a door.
Speaker 3: It sounds like it's about to break. It was one
Speaker 3: of those, and like it was to a point where
Speaker 3: everybody immediately jumped and I kind of like ducked because
Speaker 3: nobody knew what the heck that was. And everybody looks
Speaker 3: at me because the sound came from behind me, and
Speaker 3: they're like, Sean, what was that? And so like I
Speaker 3: lean back and I look and I'm like, the little
Speaker 3: boys bedroom is closed, and everybody's like, oh okay, and so,
Speaker 3: like you know, telling me that is one thing. Actually
Speaker 3: being there and experiencing those things is completely different. Like
Speaker 3: my my house. My apartment here has weird things happening
Speaker 3: all the time. We have doors that open, we have
Speaker 3: like the little knobby things for the child locks on
Speaker 3: the door. I was sitting there the other night I
Speaker 3: heard one of them on the bedroom door spinning. There
Speaker 3: was no there was no reason.
Speaker 5: Do you think that they like attached to you and
Speaker 5: like like if you've done enough of them, then they
Speaker 5: like they followed you home. They followed you home like
Speaker 5: an entity came with you.
Speaker 3: That that is a thing that can happen. But the
Speaker 3: thing about this apartment is that there was a fire
Speaker 3: here at one point in time that killed several people,
Speaker 3: several animals. And I believe that anything that is here
Speaker 3: is residual, and that's why that it's still here is
Speaker 3: because of that.
Speaker 5: Do you think that because you do this, that you've
Speaker 5: kind of opened up a doorway or like have like
Speaker 5: a you know, a thin string to them, and that
Speaker 5: this allows them to kind of more interact with you,
Speaker 5: or you're more susceptible to this type of interference or interactions.
Speaker 1: I guess, oh, we definitely heard of people that say that, right, like, uh, exorcists.
Speaker 1: It's like whenever you're around this so much like expect
Speaker 1: something to follow you if you're not careful kind of
Speaker 1: thing for sure.
Speaker 3: Right, So, Like you know, when you go to places
Speaker 3: and stuff, I mean, obviously you want to have like
Speaker 3: a mental guard, you know, a mental wall put up
Speaker 3: that's like you're not going to latch a hole to me,
Speaker 3: You're not going to have any type of influence over me.
Speaker 3: And when you leave, like you know, it's very good
Speaker 3: practice to be like out loud saying, okay, we're leaving,
Speaker 3: you're not coming home with us, you are not following us.
Speaker 3: And then also like when you you know, you get back,
Speaker 3: it's another good practice to just you know, take a shower,
Speaker 3: use that water to cleanse yourself of anything that could
Speaker 3: intentially you know, try to attach themselves to you. So
Speaker 3: like there is that in your mind state, you know
Speaker 3: when you go into these things definitely place a factor.
Speaker 3: I've seen where people have you know, had some really
Speaker 3: weird things happen to them. I've had a experience where
Speaker 3: me and a couple of people in our group. We
Speaker 3: believe that we were speaking with a relative of the
Speaker 3: group who had died in a very horrific manner. A
Speaker 3: tree had fallen on him at a work site, and
Speaker 3: he didn't die immediately. He was pinned underneath the tree.
Speaker 3: But because the workers were they were partying, they were drinking,
Speaker 3: they were doing drugs and stuff, they didn't help him.
Speaker 3: They could have got him help to where like he
Speaker 3: didn't die, but they freaked out and they all left.
Speaker 3: Me and another guy were sitting in this group and
Speaker 3: like we're having like responses on the K two meter,
Speaker 3: and it got to the point where I start crying.
Speaker 3: My buddy starts crying. He has what is tremendous pressure
Speaker 3: on his chest. I have the feeling of tremendous pressure
Speaker 3: on my back. And it was the whole entire time,
Speaker 3: you know, during that And you know, like I said,
Speaker 3: I've seen where other people there's like some old graveyards
Speaker 3: and stuff that we've gone to, and I've seen where
Speaker 3: it's like, you know, things have affected people there to
Speaker 3: where like they're not themselves anymore, and like they're just like,
Speaker 3: you know, just like no one's home and like you
Speaker 3: can just kind of like see it in their eyes,
Speaker 3: like they're just like going no pilot and their responses
Speaker 3: are very you know, kind of mono tone and just
Speaker 3: vague and very very short answering you. But then once
Speaker 3: you drive away and like you get miles down the road,
Speaker 3: then all of a sudden, you see where this. All
Speaker 3: of a sudden, they're just kind of like, you know,
Speaker 3: looking around, just kind of like confused as like you know,
Speaker 3: what just happened. And so like those things definitely that
Speaker 3: definitely do you know, do happen to people? Like it's
Speaker 3: definitely a possibility. So like I try to make sure
Speaker 3: that you know, when I'm going to different places, like
Speaker 3: you know, I'm somebody that's pretty level headed and I'm
Speaker 3: not going to just like allow something to attach on
Speaker 3: to me and come home.
Speaker 2: What's a K two? I heard you mention that a
Speaker 2: few times.
Speaker 3: So I actually brought this up on Meta the last
Speaker 3: time that I was on. So basically, it's like a
Speaker 3: box thing. It's about like this big, and you'll see
Speaker 3: it on the TV shows. It will have like a
Speaker 3: row of lights and there will be a base level
Speaker 3: that's green and then it will go to like I
Speaker 3: think like another green and then yellow, orange, and then red,
Speaker 3: and those are reading the what was it the Milla
Speaker 3: gas or whatever, the electromagnetic field of things.
Speaker 1: So like different, is this someone that Lord Byron builds? No,
Speaker 1: that's is that a spirit box? No radionics, gotcha? So
Speaker 1: this is different. Like you can get on Amazon right
Speaker 1: now just type in K two meter and you can
Speaker 1: see exactly what I'm talking about, throwing like fifteen bucks,
Speaker 1: like they're pretty cheap, and so those will those will
Speaker 1: will spike. So on Meta, I had them pull up
Speaker 1: a video from my TikTok where I is at the
Speaker 1: local cemetery that's just right across the road from me,
Speaker 1: and we're there in the daytime, and there should not
Speaker 1: be any reason why that is going off in the
Speaker 1: middle of a graveyard when you're not all around any
Speaker 1: type of electricity, nothing at all to make that pink,
Speaker 1: because that's where you're gonna start getting the pings from.
Speaker 1: So like, you can take this around your house and
Speaker 1: if you're having like a big spike in you know,
Speaker 1: any type electricity somewhere, you should be able to take
Speaker 1: that device and be able to locate where that source
Speaker 1: is coming from. Because the closer you get, the more
Speaker 1: the lights show up.
Speaker 3: Gotcha, Okay. And on top of that, they're going to
Speaker 3: remain solid, Okay, Like it's not gonna sit there and
Speaker 3: you know, flicker around this and that as where here,
Speaker 3: Like I said, I'm not anywhere power lines or anything
Speaker 3: like that, because like, yeah, if you're like you go
Speaker 3: underneath like your power lines outside, like you will start
Speaker 3: getting that to go off. So I'm sitting there, you know, talking,
Speaker 3: trying to get interactions with this. And when I tell them,
Speaker 3: I'm like, hey, you know we're I'm about to leave,
Speaker 3: and you know, this is your last chance to interact
Speaker 3: with me. Like you know, I've been trying to get
Speaker 3: you to you know, get close enough to this to
Speaker 3: make this turn red. And like, as I Mike said,
Speaker 3: they're saying, like, okay, this is your last shot. Like
Speaker 3: I'm leaving, you can't come come with us. Then all
Speaker 3: of a sudden, that thing pings up to red. Wow,
Speaker 3: there's no reason why that should be happening, you know.
Speaker 3: And like one of their questions was like, well, can
Speaker 3: that read like off of like the electrical impulses like
Speaker 3: in the human body and this and that, And I'm
Speaker 3: like no, you can put that up to your brain.
Speaker 3: You're not going to get nothing, like it's not going
Speaker 3: to happen.
Speaker 2: Well, a cell phone make it ping.
Speaker 3: Yeah, a cell phone can, but the cell phone is
Speaker 3: only going to make that ping if you are currently
Speaker 3: getting data sent to your phone. Okay, okay, So like
Speaker 3: a like an incoming text message, you'll you'll start to
Speaker 3: see it and like you'll sit there and kind of
Speaker 3: like kind of like back in the day, like if
Speaker 3: you have like a speaker on and like your phone
Speaker 3: was close enough to it, you would hear that. Okay, yeah,
Speaker 3: as it was kind of so same sort of thing
Speaker 3: that that's that that data that's you know, floating through
Speaker 3: the ether. You know, that's getting getting pinged. So you,
Speaker 3: like I said, you can you can figure those things
Speaker 3: out for the for the most part. But like, yeah,
Speaker 3: you know, just being out in the middle of you know,
Speaker 3: in the nowhere that you shouldn't just have a constant
Speaker 3: and that's the thing, Like you will have a constant
Speaker 3: you know, lighting up of lights compared to the jumpy,
Speaker 3: flittering you know of the lights, and that's when you
Speaker 3: know that there's something else that's manipulating that and not
Speaker 3: any type of source sets around you.
Speaker 4: Hm, that's interesting.
Speaker 5: Because I know there's electricity in the atmosphere for sure,
Speaker 5: so but for it to go up and down definitely
Speaker 5: would mean that something's impacting it more than just what's
Speaker 5: already around you.
Speaker 1: So yeah, huh, so real quick to kind of circle
Speaker 1: back the situation with the little boy's room and the
Speaker 1: door shutting, what did y'all end up doing? Like, I
Speaker 1: don't know if any of you felt qualified enough to
Speaker 1: try to get the spirit out of the home or
Speaker 1: you got your answers you're like, yeah, good luck with that,
Speaker 1: and you'll just dipped out, like what happened with that?
Speaker 3: So we had people in the group that you know,
Speaker 3: work with uh you know, the the afterlife and spirits
Speaker 3: and this and that, and helping them move on and
Speaker 3: go go further. And what we were able to determine
Speaker 3: was that in this house was the spirit of an
Speaker 3: old man who believed that this was his either I
Speaker 3: can't remember if it was his home or if it
Speaker 3: was like his son's home, but he was no longer
Speaker 3: you know, with us anymore, and that you know, that
Speaker 3: family no longer lived there either, so like it was
Speaker 3: a completely different family and he wasn't happy that they
Speaker 3: were in that home, and he believed that they shouldn't
Speaker 3: be there. So he was angry and he was causing
Speaker 3: this stuff to happen. And so we had a couple
Speaker 3: of members come in, you know, sage the place and
Speaker 3: do different, you know, different techniques to help this spirit
Speaker 3: be able to to move on and go to you know,
Speaker 3: whatever the next step is after that, because you know,
Speaker 3: there's a lot of speculation and whatnot of what actually
Speaker 3: happens and why some spirit stays here compared to moving on.
Speaker 3: And I mean there's different things that you could you know,
Speaker 3: tie into this. Whether this is you know prison planet theory,
Speaker 3: whether this is you know, the whole samsara and trying
Speaker 3: to break the cycle of reincarnation and just being stuck
Speaker 3: here and that sort of thing. Those are those are
Speaker 3: all good, you know, good possibilities of what it could
Speaker 3: what it could be because there has been so many
Speaker 3: people through throughout the world who you know, have been
Speaker 3: in the paranormal and they are getting interactions from people
Speaker 3: that they believed are their loved ones. I think Meta
Speaker 3: had that lady on that was getting messages through.
Speaker 2: The roku yeah, yea.
Speaker 3: And things like that, and then you have to you know,
Speaker 3: you also on the other side of that, where there's
Speaker 3: people that are like, well, how do you know that
Speaker 3: that's what it is and it's not something demonic that's
Speaker 3: trying to you know, make you think that, you know,
Speaker 3: that's what's going on.
Speaker 1: My experience of my demon it presented itself to me
Speaker 1: is my grandmother first, So like, that's absolutely a thing.
Speaker 3: Right, exactly exactly. So I think that there there's just
Speaker 3: things that we don't fully know, we don't fully understand.
Speaker 3: We probably will never know those things until we cross.
Speaker 3: But you know, I do believe that for some reason,
Speaker 3: we do have you know, spirits that are staying here
Speaker 3: that aren't moving forward. They're not going back to source,
Speaker 3: they're not you know, doing going to wherever that they're
Speaker 3: supposed to be, and they're staying in this realm for
Speaker 3: X y Z traumatic uh, you know, in traumatic events,
Speaker 3: you know somebody that has you know, committed suicide, somebody
Speaker 3: that's been murdered in some sort of horrible way, they
Speaker 3: died in some tragic accident. Those seem to be the
Speaker 3: ones that are almost nine times out of ten, stuck
Speaker 3: here and they're not able to move forward, they're not
Speaker 3: able to. I don't know if it's like if it's
Speaker 3: some type of closure for or what, but like those
Speaker 3: are the ones that, like I said, like there was
Speaker 3: a fire here. You know, people died here, so of
Speaker 3: course it makes sense that there are doors here that
Speaker 3: open all the time. And it's always the same ones too.
Speaker 3: I've had stuff that would mimic the sounds of my
Speaker 3: three year old son's you know voice, like when he's
Speaker 3: not here, and yeah, absolutely is creepy, especially when you're
Speaker 3: sitting in the living room and then all of a
Speaker 3: sudden you hear him from the back of the back
Speaker 3: of the apartment when you know he's been gone back
Speaker 3: at his mother since yesterday, you know, and like it's yeah,
Speaker 3: there's there's definitely weird. There's different weird things that just
Speaker 3: like it's it's unexplainable that like at the same time,
Speaker 3: like when you've been doing this for so long, like
Speaker 3: you said, like you get this desensitized from things, like
Speaker 3: you don't get as as spook like before, like I
Speaker 3: remember the first time, like I ever ever got an
Speaker 3: EVP on a digital voice recorder, and like I mean
Speaker 3: I just had every hair on my arm just was
Speaker 3: like standing up and I just you know, I just
Speaker 3: felt like my air was just like choked out of me.
Speaker 3: I'm just like I I do. I just caught this.
Speaker 3: You got to be kidding me. This is this is
Speaker 3: absolutely insane. There's you know, you don't think that the
Speaker 3: things are real until you actually have. It happened just
Speaker 3: like when I was Also, when I was sixteen, I
Speaker 3: had a full body app Russian standing in at the
Speaker 3: foot of my bed and I thought it was my father,
Speaker 3: and so, like long story short, it wasn't him. The
Speaker 3: spirit had disappeared in my in my room and after
Speaker 3: trying to touch me, and like I swung my arm.
Speaker 3: I should have hit an arm, but I hit nothing.
Speaker 3: So that's when I hopped out really quickly, and I
Speaker 3: was like looking around and there was nothing there. And
Speaker 3: then I sat there and I talked to my dad.
Speaker 3: He had a roommate before I was born who had
Speaker 3: died in a motorcycle accident, and he had a suicide
Speaker 3: clutch on his bike. He was coming around a curve
Speaker 3: and he went to down shift and so he didn't
Speaker 3: have both hands up on the bars and he had
Speaker 3: a pothole which sent him otb and when he hit
Speaker 3: the ground, he snapped his neck killed him instant. So
Speaker 3: two things about that. One where he was steering in
Speaker 3: my room was over top of a stereo that my
Speaker 3: father had got from a friend that was over in Vietnam.
Speaker 3: It was one of those old school tube amp stereos
Speaker 3: that and it came with two gigantic speakers. One of
Speaker 3: the speakers had like a twenty two inch subworlfront the
Speaker 3: other one had like a nineteen inch subwarlf were on it.
Speaker 3: They both had like tweeters, small little like three by
Speaker 3: nine s and you know, things like that, some ports
Speaker 3: and whatnot. But I was a smart kid, and I
Speaker 3: was able to uh get an adapter and be able
Speaker 3: to hook it up to my Walkman CD player. Yeah,
Speaker 3: so I could listen to Limp Biscuit and Lincoln Park
Speaker 3: and stuff like that on it, you know, And like
Speaker 3: I thought that was the greatest. So he really liked
Speaker 3: that thing. And he had always told my dad, like,
Speaker 3: you don't underwant this, like I'll take this from you,
Speaker 3: Like he was keeping better care of it than my
Speaker 3: dad was constantly cleaning the needle off of the record player.
Speaker 3: That sort of deal. Then he also told my dad
Speaker 3: this other thing. If you ever have a son, I'm
Speaker 3: always going to be there for him. So it makes
Speaker 3: sense as to why he was in my room. So
Speaker 3: that was the only time I ever, you know, had
Speaker 3: you know, any type of counter where I saw him
Speaker 3: like that never happened again. But like I've been other
Speaker 3: places where I've seen things that just that don't make sense.
Speaker 3: I've heard things that don't make sense, you know. I've
Speaker 3: had e vps that I've listened to after going to
Speaker 3: places that are literally calling out people in my group.
Speaker 3: Like we're sitting there, yes by name, we were setting
Speaker 3: up at this place. It was a horse ranch and
Speaker 3: there was Miami Indian barrel grounds on the property. There
Speaker 3: was also folklore that a fourteen year old Native American
Speaker 3: girl was raped and killed there on that property as well.
Speaker 3: So like they were constantly having stuff, but a lot
Speaker 3: of the things that they were also having, Yes, that
Speaker 3: was part of it. But the other part was the
Speaker 3: lady's husband. He was a very negative person, so negative
Speaker 3: energy was attaching to him and he was bringing that
Speaker 3: back home, which was amplifying things. When we first got there,
Speaker 3: we hopped out of the vehicle. This lady was like oh,
Speaker 3: you guys came at the right time. We're here for
Speaker 3: the war drums, and we're just like, what is she
Speaker 3: talking about? So like we all sat there and we
Speaker 3: were quiet, and you could hear it's like a football
Speaker 3: field in a half away there's this woodline and you
Speaker 3: can hear what sounds like and like there was no
Speaker 3: explanation of that. Also in the area's tons of mounds,
Speaker 3: tons of mounds, just like over in Ohio where there's
Speaker 3: like the Serpent Mounds and things like that. Indiana's got
Speaker 3: a bunch of mounds too, just they're not nearly as
Speaker 3: you know, big and popular as everybody else.
Speaker 1: Did y'all go into that tree line and investigate to
Speaker 1: make sure that wasn't like some kids that were off like.
Speaker 3: No, because like it's in the middle of the country,
Speaker 3: like there was there was nothing, there was nothing else around.
Speaker 1: Damn.
Speaker 4: I would be like at least playing me some good music.
Speaker 5: Like all right, I'm too nosy.
Speaker 4: I'll look.
Speaker 3: I know. We're setting up, Like our protocol is like
Speaker 3: while we're setting up, it's like get the digital voice recorders,
Speaker 3: quarters going, like we might not be asking questions and stuff,
Speaker 3: but like it's going to be playing, so like, if
Speaker 3: there's anything trying to speak with us, we're going to
Speaker 3: catch that out the gate before we even started to think,
Speaker 3: so we're listening back to that. And I wasn't even
Speaker 3: within five minutes of me turning this on. I had
Speaker 3: started picking up voices within thirty seconds, and I was
Speaker 3: just like, I mean, they were very very audible, very clear,
Speaker 3: and we don't hear them. We're sitting there talking to ourselves.
Speaker 3: And then I start getting clear as day, I want Laura,
Speaker 3: And then.
Speaker 2: I was the lady yep, oh lord.
Speaker 3: So she was one of our She was one of
Speaker 3: our investigators that helped push people, you know, to where
Speaker 3: they needed to go and then you know, from this
Speaker 3: realm to the to the other. And I caught that
Speaker 3: same phrase two more times after that.
Speaker 2: Although Laura was the old lady who like she owned
Speaker 2: the la Laura was one of your homies that you
Speaker 2: brought along.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, so like and I yeah, I want
Speaker 3: Laura three times and they were all back to back
Speaker 3: with only like maybe a second or two in between
Speaker 3: the phrases, and we didn't hear that.
Speaker 1: So when something like that is said, I I know
Speaker 1: how I would personally take that it would be more
Speaker 1: of the negative. Did y'all take that as like an
Speaker 1: inquisitive like, oh, they want to they want to speak
Speaker 1: to her or do they mean like they want her
Speaker 1: like to what level did y'all receive that information?
Speaker 3: I mean, I was. I mean, first of all, like
Speaker 3: you you hear that, and you're just kind of like, okay,
Speaker 3: like we definitely caught this, but like you know, like
Speaker 3: there is you didn't really get like the impression that
Speaker 3: it was coming off in any type of negative manner.
Speaker 3: I mean, it's it's kind of whispery sounding, but like
Speaker 3: at the same time, like it's not sounding like they're
Speaker 3: wanting to do harm.
Speaker 2: Gotcha.
Speaker 3: So, and it was, you know, a male voice, and
Speaker 3: it was the same it was the same voice each
Speaker 3: each time. And that whole entire investigation was just wild.
Speaker 3: Like we were above the horse stables and where like
Speaker 3: the hay bales and everything would be placed, and we're
Speaker 3: walking around through there and we walk into one of
Speaker 3: the rooms and there was a lady in like a
Speaker 3: white like dress nightgown thing and she took off and
Speaker 3: ran through the room and then ran through the doorway.
Speaker 3: And the two other guys that I was in there
Speaker 3: with They're like, oh my god, and they took off
Speaker 3: running after and so I'm just like, right before that,
Speaker 3: we all heard hey, and that's what made everybody turn
Speaker 3: to look. And then that's what they that's what they see.
Speaker 3: I didn't get to see her, so I just heard
Speaker 3: the hey. And the other thing about that was we
Speaker 3: all heard that, but the digital voice recorder didn't even
Speaker 3: catch it. Which is so like that that doorway that
Speaker 3: this thing ran through, it goes to a set of
Speaker 3: stairs that goes into the covered the stable area where
Speaker 3: like if it's like raining or bad weather, like you
Speaker 3: can still she can still train the horses inside of
Speaker 3: that little arena and there's no other way out. It
Speaker 3: goes straight down to there, and I mean it's big,
Speaker 3: so like if you were in there, you would be
Speaker 3: you would be caught very veryly. Plus we had people
Speaker 3: down below us in that corridor where the horse stables were,
Speaker 3: so if they would have backtracked into there, they would
Speaker 3: have been caught as well. So we get into there
Speaker 3: and like we got the flashlights on them. We're looking
Speaker 3: and I mean, there's no one there. There's no one
Speaker 3: there in sight.
Speaker 4: What that's creepy. M I don't know. I don't think
Speaker 4: I would.
Speaker 5: I'm personally I won't go poking and prodding when it
Speaker 5: comes to spirits. I have a healthy dose of leave
Speaker 5: the fuck alone.
Speaker 4: Kind of But you're not that white, No, honestly can't.
Speaker 5: It comes down to my grandma really, because she told like,
Speaker 5: there's a lot of interesting things my grandma told me.
Speaker 5: But I was raised in nursing homes. My one grandma
Speaker 5: owned a whole bunch like three two or three I think,
Speaker 5: and my other grandma worked in nursing homes for like
Speaker 5: thirty years plus, and so i was raised with the elderly,
Speaker 5: and so I've heard all sorts of stories of experiences
Speaker 5: and things and even just being there, they see things
Speaker 5: that we don't. I'll say it like that, and I've
Speaker 5: watched it. As a kid, I had really long hair.
Speaker 5: I had hair like down past my butt, and so
Speaker 5: a lot of the elderly women would like to braid
Speaker 5: my hair and stuff because it reminded them of their children.
Speaker 5: And a lot of them lost their kids or they
Speaker 5: were alone and things like that, and so we would
Speaker 5: be you know, they would tell me stories of their lives,
Speaker 5: what they've experienced, what their families went through. I don't
Speaker 5: remember like everything because I was very young, but I
Speaker 5: do remember quite a bit of things that they talked
Speaker 5: to me about.
Speaker 4: But I would come in.
Speaker 5: And they would be talking to people, but like that,
Speaker 5: they would be breathing my hair and then talking to
Speaker 5: their daughter or the person that they lost. They're talking to,
Speaker 5: but they would be looking off, like I'm seeing their lap.
Speaker 5: They're looking off somewhere else talking to this person. And
Speaker 5: I would ask them, I'm like, are they here with us?
Speaker 5: And nine times out of ten, yep, they're right here
Speaker 5: now obviously, see now people old people, they you know,
Speaker 5: you don't you kind of like take it with a
Speaker 5: grain of salt. But when you've been around that many
Speaker 5: of them and seen weird things, like I've seen people
Speaker 5: go into rooms and then I've gone in and they
Speaker 5: weren't there, and I'm like, okaye. And so I'd ask
Speaker 5: my grandma about him. She's like, just some things you
Speaker 5: just don't you don't want to mess with. And like
Speaker 5: she used to tell tell us that, like we we
Speaker 5: had witches in our family at one point, and so
Speaker 5: she's like, you know, if you mess with this stuff
Speaker 5: like it will find you, like it will come to you.
Speaker 5: And I've always taken that in you account for when
Speaker 5: I like, I've had experience and I don't.
Speaker 4: Know what people call these people.
Speaker 5: It's the dark shadows that resemble people that move around
Speaker 5: your house.
Speaker 4: I don't know, like there's name for them, the shadow people.
Speaker 5: I've heard different things, like different names, so I never
Speaker 5: knew what like people really called them. I see them
Speaker 5: quite often, I have my whole life, and I'm like,
Speaker 5: m mmm, I'm not fucking with you, like I'm not
Speaker 5: gonna even acknowledge your existing right now because I just
Speaker 5: don't want to even open that door. And so I
Speaker 5: actually have friends that do paranormal work and they've invited
Speaker 5: me to go to different places and I'm like, no,
Speaker 5: I like it for other people and I will watch it,
Speaker 5: but I will not participate in it, just for the
Speaker 5: soul's sake of maybe I just got terrified, like as
Speaker 5: a kid from the from the stories and stuff that
Speaker 5: I'm just like, I don't I don't know if I
Speaker 5: want to accidentally open a door I can no longer
Speaker 5: shut into something I'm not sure that I want to
Speaker 5: participate in. So I like it for other people. I
Speaker 5: just am definitely kind of leery when it comes to myself.
Speaker 5: But I've seen, seen and heard. I would guess what
Speaker 5: really just torques me off is when like the bed
Speaker 5: dips like next to you and you feel something next
Speaker 5: to you and you're just like, I'm just like mm mmmmmmmm,
Speaker 5: Like I'm not going to acknowledge that this is happening
Speaker 5: right now, because if I do, then I feel because
Speaker 5: I know it sounds silly and it probably is completely silly.
Speaker 5: But my grandma would be like, if you acknowledge it,
Speaker 5: then you bring it forth into existence. If you ignore
Speaker 5: it and you don't give it credence that it's there,
Speaker 5: then it won't actually be able to stay there with you.
Speaker 5: And so I don't know if this is true, but
Speaker 5: I've just followed that my whole life, and when I
Speaker 5: feel those things happen, like my heart's like it's like
Speaker 5: a whole body just like, oh God, Like I don't
Speaker 5: want you to be here, and I'm not going to
Speaker 5: acknowledge you.
Speaker 4: Maybe you're good, maybe you're evil, I don't know, but
Speaker 4: I'm not fucking with you.
Speaker 1: So you know, if you say Jesus, they like have
Speaker 1: to leave, right even even as ghost hunters acknowledge that
Speaker 1: that's actually really weird.
Speaker 4: I don't know.
Speaker 5: I know that my grandma has My grandma has visited
Speaker 5: me before, and like I can feel her presence. I
Speaker 5: first smell her smell before anything else. I'll smell her
Speaker 5: before I even ignot, like before I even am like
Speaker 5: she's here, I will smell her and it will cut.
Speaker 5: It's like it just hits me. And she had a
Speaker 5: very distinct smell. She wore taboo every day of her life,
Speaker 5: and and uh, it's it's like pretty much bloed into
Speaker 5: a lot of her stuff. But I don't have any
Speaker 5: of those things that are out in the open. And
Speaker 5: so when I do smell her and I get that
Speaker 5: feeling that she's there with me, like a strong, like
Speaker 5: visual feeling, it's I will actually engage with her. But
Speaker 5: other than that or my dad, I won't for the
Speaker 5: most part, engage with anything that I feel going on.
Speaker 4: If if I see it, I'm just kinda like, yep, that's.
Speaker 5: There, keep on walking, which is probably not the best thing,
Speaker 5: but like it's whatever.
Speaker 3: So I mean, it definitely is a thing. I mean,
Speaker 3: if you speak to a lot of different like podcasters
Speaker 3: that do like a lot of like kind of paranormal
Speaker 3: things like that, and they will I'll tell you like
Speaker 3: behind the scenes, like when they have been recording and stuff,
Speaker 3: like they'll either have something that happens during their recordings
Speaker 3: or afterwards. I don't know how many times, Like I've
Speaker 3: been recording a podcast and then once I get done,
Speaker 3: my girlfriend's like, hey, uh so while you were in there,
Speaker 3: this door opened up, and when I walked out of
Speaker 3: the bedroom, I almost walked straight into it because like
Speaker 3: she heard the door open, so she thought that she
Speaker 3: heard me coming out of here, and that wasn't the case.
Speaker 3: Like I was still in here, and so like the
Speaker 3: hallway is completely black, and you know, then all of
Speaker 3: a sudden she realized, oh, hey, there's a door wide
Speaker 3: open here from this closet when it shouldn't be open,
Speaker 3: and like it's it's just something that that happens. So
Speaker 3: I think like there is some credence to like the
Speaker 3: you know, acknowledging the things you are going to get
Speaker 3: amplified activity, and so like same with the other night
Speaker 3: where the thing on the door knob was was spinning
Speaker 3: around and like it freaked my cat out and like
Speaker 3: he ran into like the other room and he was like,
Speaker 3: I don't want nothing to do with this, and so
Speaker 3: like you know, she had brought up, hey, well what
Speaker 3: if we like investigate here and I was like, okay,
Speaker 3: well here's the thing. If we investigate here and I
Speaker 3: started doing this, we are going to get the interactions amplified.
Speaker 3: Like it's that is just a that is a SUREFI
Speaker 3: are given it will happen that way, Like I can't
Speaker 3: promise that at it won't. And you know, we're we're
Speaker 3: you know, we're pagans. So like we're doing a lot
Speaker 3: of like different like spiritual things to make sure that
Speaker 3: you know, we keep the space clear and cleansed, you know, negativity,
Speaker 3: negative energy and stuff like that. So like you know,
Speaker 3: we're not trying to bring you know, more more stuff
Speaker 3: into than than what they're already is. So and again
Speaker 3: like you know, no matter what we do do to
Speaker 3: try to do that, there's still that little bit of
Speaker 3: things that still happen here regardless when we just aren't
Speaker 3: trying to directly speak with them. Like we'll sit there
Speaker 3: and talk to each other about like the different weird
Speaker 3: things that are going on, but we're not all like hey,
Speaker 3: who's here. You know, you want to come and talk
Speaker 3: to us, like like no, because we're going to get
Speaker 3: more stuff, and like it's your home, and you know,
Speaker 3: it's just it's a different thing, especially like when you're
Speaker 3: sleeping and then all of a sudden, like you get
Speaker 3: woken up because of X, Y or Z. You know,
Speaker 3: it just starts making people like, you know, kind of
Speaker 3: this little I guess, you know, freaked out, but you know,
Speaker 3: just uncomfortable because something's going on that you can't quite see,
Speaker 3: and not everybody is just mentally prepared to handle that
Speaker 3: that sort of stuff. So like that's why you see
Speaker 3: all these stories of people who have had super bad
Speaker 3: things happen if they're at their homes and they end
Speaker 3: up moving because they can't. They don't they can't deal
Speaker 3: with it anymore. They don't want to put up with it,
Speaker 3: like it's just too much for them to handle.
Speaker 2: Mm hmmm damn.
Speaker 1: So all right, you're you got this going on in
Speaker 1: your personal life and also in a way in your
Speaker 1: professional life. What's next for you, dude? You're you're getting
Speaker 1: heavier into the podcasting world. The audiobook, like you said,
Speaker 1: has kind of been shelved for now, but it's you're
Speaker 1: gonna work on that as time allows and all these things.
Speaker 2: So, I mean, what's next for the big grim Bowski bro.
Speaker 3: I mean if I, if I can, I would love
Speaker 3: to be able to get back to being able to
Speaker 3: you know, work on my own, be able to work
Speaker 3: from from the home. Like I said, like I'm I'm
Speaker 3: currently in the in between jobs and like I'm you know,
Speaker 3: I got like some offers and stuff that I got
Speaker 3: to you know, consider and whatnot. But like if I
Speaker 3: could be here, you know and do stuff on my own,
Speaker 3: then I would I would go the route to where
Speaker 3: like I want to have a camper. I want to
Speaker 3: be able to you know, live out of a camper.
Speaker 3: I don't want to be able to be stuck here Indiana.
Speaker 3: If I could be able to travel and go to
Speaker 3: different countries, I would absolutely go to you know, different
Speaker 3: places and make content there. It's just having to initially
Speaker 3: get that that you know, all those those fundings and
Speaker 3: stuff to be able to live that kind of lifestyle. Yeah,
Speaker 3: and that's that's you know, that's the ultimate goal at
Speaker 3: the at the end of the day, you know. So
Speaker 3: I'm always trying to like think of, like, you know,
Speaker 3: what's the next idea What's what am I going to do? Now?
Speaker 3: What am I going to do next? You know, how
Speaker 3: am I going to make this become a reality? So
Speaker 3: like that's just you know, that's where I am, and hopefully,
Speaker 3: you know, one day I'll be able to get there.
Speaker 5: Yeah, totally, I think I think you will be. Twenty
Speaker 5: twenty six is new fresh, and we'll see what happens
Speaker 5: this year with everybody.
Speaker 2: The world keeps getting crazier, that's for damn sure.
Speaker 1: And so while there's people like us and like you
Speaker 1: that are here to talk about the crazy shit, I
Speaker 1: feel like there's just always going to be a market
Speaker 1: for it, honestly.
Speaker 5: So every day is a new day, bombing of Venezuela,
Speaker 5: taking the president over, shutting off all the aircraft stuff,
Speaker 5: We're gonna shoot, I know, just.
Speaker 4: You know what, so much shit here.
Speaker 5: I am trying to help, trying to be you know,
Speaker 5: giving the Spirit Animal Christmas gift by it's a little
Speaker 5: bit late, but by doing the Deglocke. Okay, I've spent
Speaker 5: like the last two days research in this bad boy
Speaker 5: because it's his pet project favorite you know, conspiracy, and
Speaker 5: I was like, you know what, I'm gonna do this
Speaker 5: for Samuel and now fucking.
Speaker 4: Venezuela just wants to happen.
Speaker 5: And I was like, wait, I have all my research.
Speaker 5: I have like fifty pages of notes because I'm a
Speaker 5: weird person. I like to print everything out because I'm
Speaker 5: old and I just you know, I'm old school with
Speaker 5: it and write little notes on everything. But I was
Speaker 5: so excited, and now Venezuela wants to be nicks about this.
Speaker 5: Not really, we were the ones that bombed them, but still.
Speaker 2: Monderuro brought it on himself.
Speaker 1: He's talking way too much shit to have that much
Speaker 1: oil in that little of a military. Okay, it was
Speaker 1: gonna happen eventually, but beside the point's aide the point.
Speaker 1: The whole weekend or weekend the last three days, I've
Speaker 1: been in San Antonio, so many of my family members
Speaker 1: that I don't get to see very often, we're asking
Speaker 1: me how the podcast is going, how's business this and
Speaker 1: this and so like, so what primarily do you talk about?
Speaker 1: And I'm like, everything, like literally everything. We can't even
Speaker 1: get through all of the nineteen sixties of what the
Speaker 1: CIA did because if you turn on the news right now,
Speaker 1: there's some new shit unfolding. Not to mention the cryptid
Speaker 1: shit that's unfolding in the UFO disclosures, and the we're
Speaker 1: never gonna run out of shit to talk about.
Speaker 4: They still want to do the damn glitter industry.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we're going to one day, fucking wild ass the
Speaker 2: glitter industry, the.
Speaker 5: Same industry when I didn't went down that rob a hole. Hell,
Speaker 5: but the meat industry. Most people don't understand the meat industry.
Speaker 2: And pop They don't know what meat glue is.
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, well what about the whole big pharma and
Speaker 5: how they pretty much could have controlled the meat industries
Speaker 5: since the late nineteen fifties because they said, you know what,
Speaker 5: fuck you, FDA. If we don't want you to exist,
Speaker 5: you won't exist unless you actually go along with us.
Speaker 1: And then on top of that, we got Bigfoot, and
Speaker 1: we got dog Man, and we have all these we
Speaker 1: got ghosties, we got all kinds of shit.
Speaker 5: Well, Dogmen is becoming huge right now. I don't know
Speaker 5: if you've seen how much has been coming out about
Speaker 5: Dogmen all over the world. Like I've seen so much
Speaker 5: and I haven't even searched it up. It's just coming
Speaker 5: up everywhere I look. Apparently they just feel in some
Speaker 5: type of way. I think there's more than one, to
Speaker 5: be honest with you, there's a whole bunch of packs
Speaker 5: of them, and they just decided this year is a
Speaker 5: year we're just coming out.
Speaker 2: So I feel this.
Speaker 1: So Sean, thank you, the biggest and grimmest of the
Speaker 1: Bowski's shameless plug brother. Wherever people can find you, where
Speaker 1: can they find you?
Speaker 3: You can find me at the Big Rambowski podcasts. I
Speaker 3: am on all the major podcasting platforms, so Spotify, Apple, iHeartRadio, Spreaker,
Speaker 3: all the good places. And then you know, you can
Speaker 3: find me on Twitch at the Big Grimbowski as well.
Speaker 3: You can find me on TikTok as well, which you
Speaker 3: guys need to start utilizing. TikTok lives on.
Speaker 5: So I was gonna I was going to message you
Speaker 5: offline because it seems like you know a lot more
Speaker 5: about social media and how to do stuff than neither
Speaker 5: one of us do. I'm trying if you haven't seen
Speaker 5: some of our attempting attempts going on, So if you
Speaker 5: could actually help me out and like, that would be
Speaker 5: great because then I'll teach this one over here too
Speaker 5: and so we can we can utilize it more.
Speaker 4: Awesome thank you absolutely anytime.
Speaker 3: So yeah, TikTok. You know, there's the other social media
Speaker 3: platforms as well, So anybody that's got your own experience
Speaker 3: with Bigfoot, you know, things like that, feel free to
Speaker 3: message me if you want to get on. We can
Speaker 3: do that too. I'm pretty pretty open currently, so uh,
Speaker 3: that's where you can find me.
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Speaker 5: In our book and our book club book club because
Speaker 5: I'm a nerd, so let's hit it. Our book club
Speaker 5: is called the Hidden Chapter and we are starting this month.
Speaker 5: We currently are getting together the books and we will
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Speaker 5: I'm going to be hand picking it without watching. So
Speaker 5: whatever we decide a cult, conspiracy, woo woo.
Speaker 4: The Bible apparently is getting thrown in as well.
Speaker 5: Maybe we're going to read Genesis and Revelations and we'll
Speaker 5: do those two.
Speaker 2: You're just going for the front in the back.
Speaker 4: Yeah, we're going for the front and back.
Speaker 5: We're just gonna we're gonna hit it fucking hard, you know,
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Speaker 5: it might be one of those things, So come join us.
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