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<v Speaker 1>Talk station. Brian Thomas happy to see an update on

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<v Speaker 1>the fifty five carse Morning Show rundown and please as

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<v Speaker 1>I can be to Welcome to the fifty five Carsite

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<v Speaker 1>Morning Show. He is the captain of an elite commando

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<v Speaker 1>unit in the Israeli Defense Forces. His name El Kana

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<v Speaker 1>aka Kuna Cohen, and he's joined the program to talk

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<v Speaker 1>about his new book and give us an update on

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<v Speaker 1>the situation in Israel right now. The book October seventh,

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<v Speaker 1>The War against SMAs through the Eyes of an Israeli

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<v Speaker 1>Commando Officer. Welcome to the fifty five KRSS Morning Show,

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<v Speaker 1>Captain Cohen. It's a pleasure to have you on today, sir.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you for having It's a great privilege to participate

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<v Speaker 2>your program.

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<v Speaker 1>Well before we get into October seventh and the aftermath,

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<v Speaker 1>I want to quickly ask you, and I know Benjamin n.

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<v Speaker 1>Yahoo has not gone on records saying Israel is responsible

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<v Speaker 1>for the cell phone blowing the his balla cell phones

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<v Speaker 1>blowing up, and yesterday the walkie talkie's blowing up. I

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<v Speaker 1>just am in awe of how that was able to

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<v Speaker 1>be pulled off. What is your reaction to the ability

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<v Speaker 1>to get those devices into the hands of the members

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<v Speaker 1>of the terrorist organization and set them off by remote control.

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<v Speaker 1>That has really had to have blown his ball of minds,

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<v Speaker 1>not literally, or maybe it is literally in some cases,

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<v Speaker 1>but they have to be reeling from the effectiveness of

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<v Speaker 1>that attack.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I think it's amazing. As you just mentioned, Israel

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<v Speaker 2>or the government or the idea did into the responsibility.

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<v Speaker 2>But I think that we can learn from the action

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<v Speaker 2>that we work very accurate in order to make sure

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<v Speaker 2>that there is no any collateral damage. And the only

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<v Speaker 2>people who got HERI in this action was the terrorists themselves.

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<v Speaker 2>That they were holding pagers and Milwaukee tokis they only

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<v Speaker 2>used for terrorisms.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, and that you got them in the hands of

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<v Speaker 1>the terrorists alone is pretty amazing. Now, I saw that

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<v Speaker 1>the Israeli cabinet has given Prime Minister net and Yahoo

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<v Speaker 1>and Defense Minister go out the authorization take military action

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<v Speaker 1>against Osbawa. Is this the the limiting nature of the attack?

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<v Speaker 1>In other words, you've taken away of his balla's ability

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<v Speaker 1>to communicate, or you haven't. Their ability to communicate has

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<v Speaker 1>been severely disrupted. Is that does not that represent a

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<v Speaker 1>great time to move in because they're going to be

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<v Speaker 1>in a state of disarray for a while because the

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<v Speaker 1>only way they apparently could be able to communicate is

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<v Speaker 1>by mail.

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<v Speaker 2>So I'm not connected to all the information at the end.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm an captain an officer in the Ideas. But as

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<v Speaker 2>you just mentioned, I truly think that we did harm

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<v Speaker 2>their communication and it's probably a good time for us

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<v Speaker 2>to react sometimes, you know, we don't have all the information.

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<v Speaker 2>Probably the Prime Minister and the Idea have everything, and

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<v Speaker 2>I'm assuming that we are playing serious things ahead. I

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<v Speaker 2>also can tell you that the Ideas mentioned that he's

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<v Speaker 2>moving the center of the fight into up north instead

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<v Speaker 2>of the Gaza Strip.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, Well, pivoting back over to the Gaza Strip, which

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<v Speaker 1>is the subject of your book, October seventh War against

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<v Speaker 1>some Aster. The is of an Israeli commando officer prior

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<v Speaker 1>to that terrible day October seventh, What is it like

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<v Speaker 1>to be an Israeli citizen on the Israeli side of

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<v Speaker 1>the fence and Gaza being right there, obviously literally next

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<v Speaker 1>door with it's an area that is run by a

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<v Speaker 1>terrorist organization that has held bent on eradicating the Israeli people.

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<v Speaker 1>What is the stress level like? How do the people

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<v Speaker 1>feel prior to October seventh, day to day living with

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<v Speaker 1>that threat right there, considering the rockets being launched and everything,

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<v Speaker 1>I just can't imagine.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I think it's good that you manage how that

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<v Speaker 2>you mentioned the fact that we are a citizen. Also

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<v Speaker 2>me right now while I'm talking to you, I'm a

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<v Speaker 2>reserve captain. I'm not an octaviuty. And on October seven,

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<v Speaker 2>I figured that I had to go into the army

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<v Speaker 2>to the ideas to defend my country. But that day,

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<v Speaker 2>on the morning, I was with my father in law,

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<v Speaker 2>with my parents in law. We were celebrating holiday. And

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<v Speaker 2>then it's a shocking knowledge. It will be shocking knowledge

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<v Speaker 2>for you. My wife woke me up. It was five

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<v Speaker 2>point thirty in the morning. She had a nightmare and

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<v Speaker 2>she told me she were terrified and told me that

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<v Speaker 2>in her nightmare, one hundreds of teubles were chasing us

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<v Speaker 2>and I couldn't use my gun in order to defend

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<v Speaker 2>herselfs I hugged her back and I told her she

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<v Speaker 2>don't worry, everything will be fine. And then one hour

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<v Speaker 2>later I was awaken up by the iron daum system

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<v Speaker 2>that were activated from the missile that we're shooting from

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<v Speaker 2>God that told to Israel. You asked me, how is

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<v Speaker 2>it to live here in Israel? So I think Israeli,

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<v Speaker 2>everyone who know Israeli, they know that we have great

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<v Speaker 2>spirits and we I've been through some dark times. And unfortunately,

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<v Speaker 2>while we're talking, we still have one hundred and one

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<v Speaker 2>hostages in captivity. One hundred and one. It's it's an

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<v Speaker 2>insane number. They're incuptivity already for three hundred and forty

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<v Speaker 2>eight days. It's it's unbelievable. But I think we are

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<v Speaker 2>with a great spirit. We have our time here right now,

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<v Speaker 2>but we know that we will we will manage that

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<v Speaker 2>and we will be able to defeat uh, this evil

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<v Speaker 2>and this terror group. By the way, it's not just

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<v Speaker 2>from us, it's I went through Gaza and soon I'm

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<v Speaker 2>going to share some of my experience there. But I

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<v Speaker 2>just want to tell you the majority of the people

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<v Speaker 2>who live at Gaza, at least the places that I've

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<v Speaker 2>been to the northern part of the Gaza Strip, support

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<v Speaker 2>the elimination of Israel, the elimination of the West in total.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, that certainly is the is the big sure in

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<v Speaker 1>the image that I get, and I suppose that the

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<v Speaker 1>October seventh terror operation, the murder of innocent women, children,

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<v Speaker 1>young people, people who are not uniformed military combatants. That

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<v Speaker 1>reminded me a lot of nine to eleven. And we

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<v Speaker 1>use nine to eleven as a justification for launching wars

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<v Speaker 1>in the Middle East. And I hear a bunch of

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<v Speaker 1>people who are anti Israel, at least lean that way,

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<v Speaker 1>complain about collateral damage. Were you going into Gaza to

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<v Speaker 1>defend yourself against the horrors of the war that was

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<v Speaker 1>launched on your country. I don't understand that, sir. So

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<v Speaker 1>to those people who complain only about innocent women and

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<v Speaker 1>children in collateral damage, would you explain to them the

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<v Speaker 1>efforts that Israel goes through before they enter into it

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<v Speaker 1>and start launching bombs and going into combat in areas

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<v Speaker 1>like Gaza.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, let me answer your question. First of all, let's

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<v Speaker 2>put it in numbers. On October seven, two hundred and

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<v Speaker 2>fifty three people were kidnapped. In one thousand, two hundred

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<v Speaker 2>people were slaughtered. If we compare that to the US,

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<v Speaker 2>it's in the seven thousand, five hundred people were slaughtered. Sorry,

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<v Speaker 2>we're kidnapped, and thirty six people were slaughtered that day.

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<v Speaker 2>It's it's number that everyone just cannot think about it.

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<v Speaker 2>It's outrageous. So first of all, when people say, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>like a proportional response, what will be your proportional response

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<v Speaker 2>for this amount of people who getting kidnapped and slaughtered?

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<v Speaker 2>But I'm putting that aside. One second, I want to

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<v Speaker 2>share one of my experiences during that time in Gaza.

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<v Speaker 2>One of we got an intel of a school that

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<v Speaker 2>were full with infrastructures for terror and we knew that

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<v Speaker 2>we have to conquer that place. But we also knew

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<v Speaker 2>that that school was school with civilians. So as we

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<v Speaker 2>always do, I'm telling you, as we always do, we

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<v Speaker 2>stuck calling them all out, but no one left the area.

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<v Speaker 2>So we use the drone in orders to skin the

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<v Speaker 2>to scan the school from above from the air, and

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<v Speaker 2>then on we saw that there is Hamas guard inside

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<v Speaker 2>that school. They didn't let those citizens to leave the school.

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<v Speaker 2>More than that, one of the kids, I think was

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<v Speaker 2>five years old try to run away and the Hamas

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<v Speaker 2>guard shoot him in his head and kill them in

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<v Speaker 2>front of his mom. Oh my god, that time I realized,

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<v Speaker 2>we realized that we have to kill those guards. So

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<v Speaker 2>after a couple of moments, later, one of the Hamas

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<v Speaker 2>guard went on the rooftop. He went holding was holding

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<v Speaker 2>a baby. Just in front of us. He was holding

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<v Speaker 2>a baby. He knew exactly where we were. We wore

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<v Speaker 2>a couple of one hundred meters away. He knew where

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<v Speaker 2>we were, where we are staying. And behind them was

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<v Speaker 2>a guy with a camera. They just waited for us

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<v Speaker 2>to take that shot. And we didn't took the shot

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<v Speaker 2>because unlike those savages, I have no other wall to

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<v Speaker 2>describe that. We don't use innocent people, and we don't

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<v Speaker 2>we don't slaughter baby as they just did on October seventh,

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<v Speaker 2>and keep doing, by the way, because a few weeks

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<v Speaker 2>ago we just got a great reminder murdering executing these

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<v Speaker 2>six lovely hostages that were about to get rescued. So

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<v Speaker 2>it was holding that baby what And we didn't took

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<v Speaker 2>that shot, even though it's meant for us that we're

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<v Speaker 2>putting our life on the line, because as I just

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<v Speaker 2>told you, they knew exactly where we were. They could

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<v Speaker 2>have aimed any RPG missile at forty seven that they

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<v Speaker 2>had towards us. Yet we put our life on the

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<v Speaker 2>danger and we didn't took that shot. Later on the

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<v Speaker 2>same Hamas gard went on the roofstop again. It was

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<v Speaker 2>surrounded by a group of women, one of them banned

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<v Speaker 2>a little bit. It was enough for our sniper to

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<v Speaker 2>take that shot and to eliminate that threat. And I'm

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<v Speaker 2>sharing this experience because I want people to understand what's

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<v Speaker 2>actually going on through this war. We're doing endless efforts

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<v Speaker 2>in order to avoid any casualties. And then you just

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<v Speaker 2>mentioned there's people who protest against.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and I find that hard to believe. But I

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<v Speaker 1>understand the disdain so many people have for Israel. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>I know that it exists. I don't understand where that

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<v Speaker 1>hatred and disdain comes from, but there it is. And

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<v Speaker 1>you mentioned the Gaza citizenry generally speaking, they're all anti Israel.

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<v Speaker 1>They want to eradicate Israel generally speaking, which of course

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<v Speaker 1>is the goal of Hamas, who runs Gaza. What is

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<v Speaker 1>your belief what would you consider success, Captain Cohen. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>if you went in and you were able to eliminate

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<v Speaker 1>every single member of Hamas and or Habala, the citizenry,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe people who are not members haven't yet taken up arms,

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<v Speaker 1>still have that same philosophy, so you'll still be living

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<v Speaker 1>next to people who want to eliminate you. Don't you

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<v Speaker 1>see that as a possible They could just like phoenix

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<v Speaker 1>from the ashes, arise again in a different form or

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<v Speaker 1>reform under the name Hamas or Hezbala. How can you

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<v Speaker 1>win the war?

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<v Speaker 2>I think first of all, we need to understand that

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<v Speaker 2>we need our brother and sister back here alive as

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<v Speaker 2>soon as possible, and this is what we're fighting for.

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<v Speaker 2>We're fighting for our sake, but also for the Palestinian's sake.

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<v Speaker 2>As I just mentioned, Hamasta doesn't care about his own people.

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<v Speaker 2>He uses human hills. You're right, you just mentioned that

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<v Speaker 2>they can rise from the ashes and through a different organizations.

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<v Speaker 2>So after were making sure that everyone who support our

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<v Speaker 2>desks is not able to do anything like that again.

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<v Speaker 2>In the future, our main goal will be to re

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<v Speaker 2>educating them and to show them what life's supposed to dealiz.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, if you look at Israel, if you I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know if you've ever been to Israel, but Israel

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<v Speaker 2>it's a lovely place. We have huge Haita company over here,

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<v Speaker 2>the nicest resort, amazing innovation, and just seventy years ago

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<v Speaker 2>we went through a holocaust with six million Jews were killed,

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<v Speaker 2>so we had every reason to be miserable to tell

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<v Speaker 2>the world story and we can't do anything. And yet

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<v Speaker 2>we managed to build an amazing state. And yet you

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<v Speaker 2>can hear the Palestinians as they pronounce themselves. Even if

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<v Speaker 2>there is something like that, they always looked for the

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<v Speaker 2>past they have. I'm telling you, I've been through Gaza.

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<v Speaker 2>They had the nicest bitches o reserve, but unfortunately they

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<v Speaker 2>take every money that they had in order to invest

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<v Speaker 2>and build terror tunnel, terror infrastructure, and we need to

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<v Speaker 2>make sure to show them that we can do different.

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<v Speaker 2>I want to have a boring life. I don't want

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<v Speaker 2>to spend the last year I spent over two hundred

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<v Speaker 2>and fourty days on reserve. I shut down my business

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<v Speaker 2>that day. And as I told you and expecting father,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't want to participate war. But unfortunately I understand

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<v Speaker 2>that we have to fight it. As long that they

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<v Speaker 2>are fighting and they want to destroy my country, to

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<v Speaker 2>kill my people, I'll do everything that it takes to

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<v Speaker 1>I understand that, like a grown up sir, I certainly

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<v Speaker 1>understand that. But the biggest problem, the elephant in the room,

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<v Speaker 1>if I may be so bold, the Iranians are the

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<v Speaker 1>ones that are funding this. If the Iranians would not

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<v Speaker 1>provide the weaponry, the money, the war machinery to these

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<v Speaker 1>terrorist organizations, I think you would be in a much

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<v Speaker 1>better place because the terrorist organizations, as much as they

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<v Speaker 1>might want to eradicate you, are unable to do so

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<v Speaker 1>without military hardware and rockets. What do we do with Iran?

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<v Speaker 2>You're definitely right, You're definitely right. I think the entire

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<v Speaker 2>of the world should understand that and to do embargos

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<v Speaker 2>and you know, just world pressure against terrorism against Iran,

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<v Speaker 2>against Ri Bala, against the SEA organization in them and Lebanon, Syria.

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<v Speaker 2>They all part of the same network. And just amazing

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<v Speaker 2>because as as we just saw two days ago, one

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<v Speaker 2>heard from those UH UH walkie TALKI explosions. Just show

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<v Speaker 2>learn only only you know, only the people who connected

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<v Speaker 2>to his Bala had those those radio and yeah, this

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<v Speaker 2>that they that they have between Iran to to Chris Bala.

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<v Speaker 2>And I can tell you that I saw multiple weapons

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<v Speaker 2>inside the Gaza strip that were made by Iran. So yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I think the entire world should understand and and and

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<v Speaker 1>Well, if it was up to me, I would do

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<v Speaker 1>everything in my power to get the Iranians eradicated myself.

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<v Speaker 1>They are obviously a source of discontent, weaponry, and war,

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<v Speaker 1>and they hate us as much as the the Hamas

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<v Speaker 1>hates Israel. So, sir, you're obviously very brave. I wish

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<v Speaker 1>you all the best, and you're the fact that your

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<v Speaker 1>wife is pregnant, you're you're you're waiting to become a

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<v Speaker 1>father in the middle of this crisis is proof that

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<v Speaker 1>the world continues to evolve and move on and live,

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<v Speaker 1>thrive and survive. So I wish you and your wife

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<v Speaker 1>the best of health and uh and you have a

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<v Speaker 1>word or two you want to say about your fellow

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<v Speaker 1>soldiers before we part company today.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, So, first of all, I want to say about

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<v Speaker 2>my fellow soldier and about my comrades. I think that

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<v Speaker 2>I have an amazing team, and I have an amazing people,

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<v Speaker 2>and I wish the war knew them, you know, privately,

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<v Speaker 2>because personally, I'm sorry because we all people who want

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<v Speaker 2>to leave, who want to be with our family, but

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<v Speaker 2>we know that sometimes we need to put everything aside

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<v Speaker 2>and fight talk for our country. But I also want

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<v Speaker 2>to say thank you for all the people in the

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<v Speaker 2>US who are supporting us. It's mean a lot and

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<v Speaker 2>I'm very grateful for that. Please keep do that, keep support,

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<v Speaker 2>order to show the world what actually is going on

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<v Speaker 2>is anyone here who wants me to come to congregation

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<v Speaker 1>Captain Elkanna Kuno Cohen. It has been a real pleasure

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<v Speaker 1>having you on the morning show. Thank you for documenting

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<v Speaker 1>this in the book October seventh, The War against Somemas

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<v Speaker 1>through the Eyes of an Israeli Commando Officer, Sir. That

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<v Speaker 1>in engaging in a communication with you. I wish you

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<v Speaker 1>all the best and safety, and I wish you the

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<v Speaker 1>best of success, sir, in your effort to wipe out

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<v Speaker 1>these terrorists. Thank you very much, been my pleasure, my

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