Speaker 1: You're listen Saints KFI AM six forty.
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Speaker 2: KFI handle here. Thursday morning, April the tenth big news
Speaker 2: that we're covering the tariff wars. The President invoked those tariffs.
Speaker 2: The Dow and other markets collapsed. It went down ten
Speaker 2: percent over four days, and the markets were roiling, and
Speaker 2: the President, who said, oh no, I'm not backing down,
Speaker 2: back down. He said, okay, there'll be a ninety day
Speaker 2: pause on the tariffs that I have invoked all over the.
Speaker 1: World, and China not so much. China. There is no pause.
Speaker 2: As matter of fact, China increase or the President increased
Speaker 2: the terrorifts on China to one hundred and twenty five
Speaker 2: percent of all goods coming in or the vast majority
Speaker 2: of goods coming in. And so there's a full full
Speaker 2: scale trade war going out with China right now. They
Speaker 2: just raised their terriffs against the States products to eighty
Speaker 2: four percent, which is kind of interesting.
Speaker 1: You'd think it go tit for tat all.
Speaker 2: Right, So the market came back yesterday when he announced
Speaker 2: the pause, it went up three thousand points, and now
Speaker 2: today it is down one thousand points. As of right now,
Speaker 2: the market does not like volatility, and tell me that
Speaker 2: is in volatility.
Speaker 1: Also tomorrow is ask handle anything.
Speaker 2: And this is what we do every week at eight thirty,
Speaker 2: and that is I answer questions because people ask about
Speaker 2: all of us. What's handled like, what's cobalt like, what's
Speaker 2: Tim like, what's Neil like? And so I just thought
Speaker 2: we answer where I'd answer personal questions just for fun.
Speaker 1: Hugely embarrassing for me. So here's what you do during
Speaker 1: the course of the show.
Speaker 2: You go to the iHeart app and click onto Kfi
Speaker 2: microphone in the upper right hand corner and click on
Speaker 2: that and record a question.
Speaker 1: And you got fifteen seconds.
Speaker 2: A question, not an opinion, because if you think I
Speaker 2: care about your opinion, I do not.
Speaker 1: So if you have a question, go right ahead and
Speaker 1: do it. Now.
Speaker 2: Here is a real interesting but not surprising survey. Newsweek
Speaker 2: has created a map showing the world's most hated countries
Speaker 2: and where do you think the United States came in.
Speaker 2: First of all, let me tell you about the map.
Speaker 2: It's based on the World Population Review and research that
Speaker 2: was done for this year, and I'll quote now by
Speaker 2: combining reports and public opinion surveys, from all over the globe.
Speaker 2: So this is, you know, okay, pretty comprehensive and legitimate.
Speaker 2: And who do you think the three most hated countries in.
Speaker 1: The world are?
Speaker 2: Well, China, the United States coming in second, and Russia.
Speaker 2: And why Well, for China, it's authoritarian regime, sweatshops, contribution
Speaker 2: to pollution, refusal to grant independence to Hong Kong, Taiwan, Macau,
Speaker 2: and its treatment of the Weiger people. Russia, we're severely
Speaker 2: restructing both personal rights and freedoms and democracy as a whole,
Speaker 2: and the war in Ukraine now against the United States.
Speaker 1: Why does the world hate us?
Speaker 2: And we're number two because of our tendency to overstep
Speaker 2: when trying to influence international events in a way that
Speaker 2: benefits the US.
Speaker 1: Absolutely, that's what we do.
Speaker 2: And on top of this, the culture wars are looked
Speaker 2: at all over the world as something really negative, and
Speaker 2: we're hated deep and increasingly increasingly hostile political division between
Speaker 2: liberals and conservatives. That's a quote, our love of firearms
Speaker 2: and fast food. The world hates us because of fast food. Well,
Speaker 2: maybe because there's a McDonald's or a KFC or Burger
Speaker 2: King in almost every country out there. And a perceived
Speaker 2: sense of entitlement among Americans. One of the things about
Speaker 2: Americans that people do not like is we are exceptionalists.
Speaker 1: We are better than anybody in the world.
Speaker 2: We are the most the greatest country in the world,
Speaker 2: which in many ways we are.
Speaker 3: But that's pretty broad strokes.
Speaker 2: How are we with healthcare one of the worst countries
Speaker 2: in the world, certainly in the industrialized world. How about
Speaker 2: literacy maybe number thirty. How about infant mortality maybe number forty.
Speaker 2: So when we say we're the greatest country in the world,
Speaker 2: let's be specific about it. And you know, the rest
Speaker 2: of the world doesn't do that. You go to the
Speaker 2: Scandinavian countries, which in many ways are the best country
Speaker 2: in the world.
Speaker 1: Free education.
Speaker 2: Phenomenon, minal education that people gat and it's paid for
Speaker 2: by the taxpayer.
Speaker 1: For example, I was just in Italy in Sicily.
Speaker 3: Very poor, potholes on every road.
Speaker 1: Dirty.
Speaker 2: I mean, there's a lot wrong with Sicily. But let
Speaker 2: me tell you what happened. Lindsay got very ill, and
Speaker 2: she's asthmatic and she has some lung issues and she
Speaker 2: had to go to the hospital.
Speaker 1: We had to take her to.
Speaker 2: The emergency room and the emergency room is an old building,
Speaker 2: you know, it's kind of a scrubby area of town.
Speaker 1: And so she goes in and we figure, okay, you know,
Speaker 1: you know, how good can this be? Phenomenal?
Speaker 2: Doctors waited not even five minutes to go see a doctor,
Speaker 2: got a media treatment. By the way, world class equipment
Speaker 2: is as good as anything here and other major capitals.
Speaker 2: And on top of that, she needed an E and T.
Speaker 2: She needed a doctor to look at her lungs and
Speaker 2: her sinuses. So we go upstairs, walk right in and
Speaker 2: an E and T doc puts a scope down her
Speaker 2: nose and looks and says, okay, here's what you need
Speaker 2: and offer and then writes prescriptions. So on the way out,
Speaker 2: I asked the nurse, Okay, how much do I pay?
Speaker 1: Where do I pay for this? And she said, you
Speaker 1: don't pay. What do you mean pay?
Speaker 2: Our medicine is paid for by the taxpayer. There's no
Speaker 2: place to pay. We have no mechanism for you to pay.
Speaker 2: And this was phenomenal medicine. But we're the best in
Speaker 2: the world, aren't we. That's why a lot of people
Speaker 2: around the world do not like us and hate us,
Speaker 2: because we tell people we're better than you. Well, you
Speaker 2: know what do you think people like to be told that?
Speaker 2: So we are exceptionalists.
Speaker 1: I am not.
Speaker 2: I mean I look at American and by the way,
Speaker 2: I'd rather not live. I love having grown up and
Speaker 2: live in America. And I tend on staying here even
Speaker 2: if I'm going to retire and go to Italy, which
Speaker 2: I've said, when I do retire, I'm still going to
Speaker 2: stay here for months and months at a time because
Speaker 2: I'm not leaving. I'm not losing my citizenship. I am
Speaker 2: proud to be an American. But I tell you, if
Speaker 2: I need medical care, good medical care, I'm walking into
Speaker 2: an emergency room. I'm waiting five minutes. I'm getting world
Speaker 2: class medicine, and I'm not paying for it.
Speaker 1: Okay, I want to talk.
Speaker 2: To you a little bit about television, and let's go
Speaker 2: back a little bit in history, and I'm telling I'm
Speaker 2: talking away or we're talking about Amazon, and Amazon on
Speaker 2: is where everybody buys, or a lot of people buy,
Speaker 2: and they do it on the internet. And then Amazon
Speaker 2: comes out with you know what, We're going to produce
Speaker 2: content and we're going to have a cable station, or
Speaker 2: we're going to have a streaming station. And it's kind
Speaker 2: of neat because you've got Netflix and you've got Paramount,
Speaker 2: and you've got a bunch of companies going on streaming.
Speaker 2: And this is the golden age of television.
Speaker 1: I'll tell you that.
Speaker 2: It used to be that when live TV was around
Speaker 2: in the fifties, when it started, that was considered the
Speaker 2: golden age of TV because you had these phenomenal actors,
Speaker 2: major actors who broke into acting and into movies by
Speaker 2: coming onto these live TV shows that were there were
Speaker 2: little mini plays, well written, well acted, well crafted, and
Speaker 2: that was considered the golden age. Then we went into
Speaker 2: garbage in the sixties and seventies when the Beverly Hillbillies
Speaker 2: were on top the heap, or my mother the car,
Speaker 2: you know, can you imagine my mother the.
Speaker 3: Car who pitches that, Hey, I got an idea for you.
Speaker 1: These are the suits at the network.
Speaker 3: I got an idea.
Speaker 2: You've got a guy whose mother has died and comes
Speaker 2: back reincarnated as a model T, as a Ford model T,
Speaker 2: and they talk and that's the show. Or mister ed
Speaker 2: Oh Wilbur a talking horse. Okay, that's where TV went.
Speaker 2: And then you have the streaming services coming back and
Speaker 2: we're doing phenomenal shows. I'm just watching Handmaide's Tale. Okay,
Speaker 2: So here we are talking about TV. Could you ever
Speaker 2: imagine the NFL being on Amazon. That's exactly what's happening.
Speaker 2: Broadcast TV is moving towards screaming, and the broadcasters are
Speaker 2: going nuts. Radio is in trouble because of streaming, because
Speaker 2: of podcasting, because of other ways people are list So
Speaker 2: the television stations, they're saying, well, the only way we're
Speaker 2: going to survive is if we're allowed to consolidate. Federal
Speaker 2: law does not allow TV networks to consolidate. Right now,
Speaker 2: a TV network can only own two television stations in
Speaker 2: a local market.
Speaker 1: And so you have.
Speaker 2: All the big players in a lot of trouble, and
Speaker 2: what they're asking for, let us buy, let us consolidate.
Speaker 2: That's the way we're going to survive, not so much
Speaker 2: make money. So the National Association of Broadcasters just met a.
Speaker 1: Few days ago in Las Vegas.
Speaker 2: It's an annual convention of the broadcasters, and that was
Speaker 2: the talk of the town, asking the FAA to please
Speaker 2: or the FCC, I'm sorry to please allow consolidation, allow
Speaker 2: us to own more stations in a given market, and
Speaker 2: it's going to be more efficient. We're going to have
Speaker 2: a better way of attracting advertisers. We're going to be
Speaker 2: able to make more money with less. And that's what's
Speaker 2: going on because you have I remember when it was
Speaker 2: voice tracking. It used to be that every radio station
Speaker 2: around the country had their own talent. Well, if you're
Speaker 2: a big fan of Ryan Seacrest, who's still in radio,
Speaker 2: by the way, the guy's phenomenal. I mean, he has
Speaker 2: not forgotten radio, even though he's making a zillion dollars
Speaker 2: on TV. You can hear Ryan seacrests in the morning
Speaker 2: on I don't know, two hundred stations maybe.
Speaker 1: And it's not even a question of syndication either.
Speaker 2: It's a question of voice tracking, where he is the
Speaker 2: host of local shows because they use his voice so
Speaker 2: they don't have to pay local talent. And morning well,
Speaker 2: morning shows do okay, but KA finds an outlier that
Speaker 2: we have programming all day long, local programming.
Speaker 3: It's just way too expensive to do.
Speaker 2: And so without the government saying all right, let's change
Speaker 2: things around, will allow you to consolidate, we're in trouble anyway.
Speaker 1: Now.
Speaker 2: The question of to slow down the problem that we're having.
Speaker 2: For us, it's a problem, and we're talking about the
Speaker 2: traditional media. For the consumer, for the listener, there are
Speaker 2: more ways of listening.
Speaker 3: And that's we're in the typewriter industry.
Speaker 2: When the age of computers come out, and if we
Speaker 2: don't figure out a way to make it more approachable
Speaker 2: and just do a better product, you know, five years
Speaker 2: from now.
Speaker 1: Where are we going to be? I have no idea. Now.
Speaker 2: The only good news here for the broadcasters is there
Speaker 2: an administration out there that really cares about business. And
Speaker 2: that's the hope. So the plea to the FCC, the
Speaker 2: head of the SEC, a Trump appointee.
Speaker 1: A guy by the Dame but I I think is
Speaker 1: Brendan Carr, is please help us out.
Speaker 2: Let us do what we do best, broadcast, and let
Speaker 2: us survive by consolidation, because.
Speaker 1: That's the only way to do it. And that's the rule.
Speaker 1: That's that's the way of the future.
Speaker 2: That's why the mom and poppers very difficult for mom
Speaker 2: and pop anything, hardware stores, restaurants to survive because.
Speaker 1: There aren't efficiencies there.
Speaker 2: All right, real quickly, I want to spend a few
Speaker 2: minutes talking about the next big workplace fight and that
Speaker 2: has to do with who pays for ozembic. And this
Speaker 2: is a drug that's part of GLP one, the drug
Speaker 2: that well, it really helps weight loss, and it's considered
Speaker 2: pretty successful in the world of weight loss, but it's
Speaker 2: not cheap. And the argument is that the company should
Speaker 2: pay for this. Why because if you are fat, then
Speaker 2: you're more prone to diabetes, you're more prone to knee issues,
Speaker 2: you're more prone to a heart attack, and therefore preventive
Speaker 2: care is cheaper for a company.
Speaker 1: That's like insurance companies.
Speaker 2: Will give you free teeth cleaning if you have a
Speaker 2: mental insurance because it's preventive and you're going to have
Speaker 2: fewer cavities and you're not going to go in later
Speaker 2: on with pretty expensive procedures.
Speaker 1: It's that kind of philosophy. And so the argument is is.
Speaker 2: Fat people who lose a lot of weight are better
Speaker 2: for a company in the long term.
Speaker 1: Okay, that makes sense.
Speaker 2: Now you've got company that are going, oh, no, no,
Speaker 2: because here's the problem with drugs like ozimpic that you're
Speaker 2: asking us to pay for it, even though you're absolutely right,
Speaker 2: is that you're going to be healthier if you lose
Speaker 2: one hundred pounds if you're that heavy.
Speaker 3: But that's long term.
Speaker 1: Are you going to be around ten years from now,
Speaker 1: fifteen years from now.
Speaker 2: No. And now even the insurance companies, even though the
Speaker 2: argument is you pay for my weight loss, saying you
Speaker 2: are going to be better off for it, now you
Speaker 2: have insurance companies and states, for example, that do pay
Speaker 2: for it. Let's say bariatric surgery. When I underwent bariatric surgery,
Speaker 2: we're talking what twenty years ago, maybe eighteen years ago,
Speaker 2: insurance companies didn't pay for it, even though I went
Speaker 2: to and no one paid for it. I you know,
Speaker 2: you had to write a check. Well, today it's different,
Speaker 2: and today insurance companies in many cases are paying for it.
Speaker 2: In some cases no. And employers, when you're talking about
Speaker 2: big employers, of course, people have companies have thousands of people.
Speaker 2: In certain cases they paid for it, and not so
Speaker 2: much because it's long term, because they want to hang
Speaker 2: on to people that are really good. If you are
Speaker 2: fat and good, they may want to pay for your
Speaker 2: weight loss program with these drugs.
Speaker 3: If you are fat and not so good, there's the door.
Speaker 1: If you can squeeze through it.
Speaker 3: Thank you leave us alone. And that's the fight that's
Speaker 3: going on right now.
Speaker 1: And it used to be.
Speaker 2: Look at the major tech companies what they did, what
Speaker 2: they used to do, and man, you had free food
Speaker 2: in the cafeteria you and you had ping pong tables,
Speaker 2: and you had to meditation.
Speaker 1: Rooms and I mean, all just keep good people.
Speaker 2: Well yeah, I mean, how many of that work for
Speaker 2: Amazon or work for Google. Now go into the cafeteria
Speaker 2: and you get all the free food you want?
Speaker 1: Not so much anymore?
Speaker 3: All right, So that fight continues on, and both sides
Speaker 3: are right.
Speaker 1: It does help people are healthier.
Speaker 2: They don't stay home as much, they don't have as
Speaker 2: many heart attacks.
Speaker 3: But the other side is, yeah, we'll talk about that eight.
Speaker 1: Years from now.
Speaker 2: We're five years from now when you have already worked
Speaker 2: someplace else and we've written the check for these drugs,
Speaker 2: which is several hundred dollars or maybe one thousand dollars
Speaker 2: or more a month.
Speaker 1: That gets pretty pricey, all right.
Speaker 2: Mo Kelly who is host of Later with Mo Kelly
Speaker 2: every night Monday through Friday, seven to seven pm.
Speaker 1: Morning. Mo, how's it going.
Speaker 4: I'm it's going well. Let me just say congratulations to
Speaker 4: you and welcome back.
Speaker 3: Oh, thank you very much, greatly appreciate it.
Speaker 2: Now this, you wouldn't expect a lawsuit involving Blade Runner,
Speaker 2: Tesla and Warner Brothers.
Speaker 1: Put those in a blender and what.
Speaker 4: Do you get, mo, Well, Blade Runner twenty forty nine,
Speaker 4: that specific movie. The production company for Blade Runner twenty
Speaker 4: forty nine was Alcon Entertainment, and they're suing Warner Brothers
Speaker 4: for one reason, in Tesla for another. One of the
Speaker 4: issues is Alcon's charge of copyright infringement because images from
Speaker 4: the movie were used to train AI tools for Tesla.
Speaker 4: That's the first part. Tesla had an event on the
Speaker 4: WB Warner Brothers lot and use visuals from the movie
Speaker 4: against the will of Alcon Entertainment. But get this, Alcon
Speaker 4: had argued prior to this lawsuit that company executives had
Speaker 4: made it clear that under no circumstances could there be
Speaker 4: quote any affiliation between the film and Tesla, specifically because
Speaker 4: of musks massively amplified, highly politicized, capricious, and arbitrary behavior
Speaker 4: which sometimes veers in the hate speech.
Speaker 5: And I quote, Okay.
Speaker 2: So set up the scenario as to what happened again,
Speaker 2: I'm a little confused.
Speaker 3: So you had Tesla on.
Speaker 1: The Warner Brothers Lot. Do I have that writer or this.
Speaker 5: Within the film. No, that's correct.
Speaker 4: Tesla had an event on Warner Brother's life lot and
Speaker 4: prior to that outcome said, hey, do not use anything
Speaker 4: from our film. We don't want any perceived association between
Speaker 4: Alcon Entertainment Blade Runner twenty forty nine and each game specifically.
Speaker 3: All right, did they have any kind of a deal?
Speaker 2: Was there a written deal or an agreement or an
Speaker 2: okay on that.
Speaker 5: Not from Alcon?
Speaker 4: Now, Warner Brothers was the distribution company for Blade Runner
Speaker 4: twenty forty nine, so there was a professional relationship. But
Speaker 4: Alcon said, beyond distributing our film, it doesn't mean that
Speaker 4: you can use it wherever you want.
Speaker 5: This is where the copyright infringement comes in.
Speaker 1: Got it?
Speaker 3: And oh this is fascinating too.
Speaker 2: Was Tesla using the film at all or are there
Speaker 2: any mentioned or do you see Tesla anywhere in the
Speaker 2: background of the film.
Speaker 5: No, No, not at all.
Speaker 4: Now the specific issue that Alcon has what Tesla is
Speaker 4: you have also used these images that we did not
Speaker 4: approve to be used in this event. You've used it
Speaker 4: for your other professional endeavors, training your own AI.
Speaker 1: How does that work? I'm a little confused.
Speaker 2: How does an event where you have Tesla on the
Speaker 2: lot translate into use of AI That one I kind
Speaker 2: of don't get.
Speaker 4: That's the argument that they're going to have to make
Speaker 4: and be able to prove that the images which were
Speaker 4: used were somehow used to the betterment of Tesla's products.
Speaker 5: That is at the heart of the whole case.
Speaker 4: Now, this is an actual a narrow in term pretation
Speaker 4: because there were other issues that Alcon had alleged and
Speaker 4: the judge said, no, you can set that aside and
Speaker 4: resolve that in mediation. This is the only part of
Speaker 4: the actual lawsuit which is moving forward.
Speaker 1: Okay.
Speaker 3: And I didn't pay attention to this lawsuit.
Speaker 1: And I want to, you know, put it on the
Speaker 1: record that.
Speaker 2: MO actually knows more about the law in this instance
Speaker 2: than I do.
Speaker 1: And Mo, we won't be doing that again.
Speaker 2: I just want to let you know this will be
Speaker 2: the last time you ever come up with a legal
Speaker 2: interpretation that makes sense that I don't know about.
Speaker 1: Okay, I apologize as well.
Speaker 2: You should, all right, MO, tonight seven to ten pm,
Speaker 2: as every night later with MO Kelly, have a good one.
Speaker 5: MO talks through my friend.
Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, Moe's very bright guy. All right, now,
Speaker 2: what is going on? Well, first of all, Gary and
Speaker 2: Shannon twelve twenty talking about Trader Joe's tote bag. That's
Speaker 2: a whole thing onto itself. I don't get what's going on.
Speaker 2: But I didn't get cabbage patch dolls. I didn't get
Speaker 2: ll I didn't get the pet rock. But this is today,
Speaker 2: and they'll talk about how crazy life is out there.
Speaker 2: Also tomorrow it's ask Handle anything. That one's fun where
Speaker 2: people ask me questions. We record it and then I
Speaker 2: answer the questions. And tomorrow is going to be a
Speaker 2: lot of fun because I just got back from Italy
Speaker 2: and there's going to be just a lot of entertainment
Speaker 2: on those questions. And I'm very honest to my utter humiliation.
Speaker 2: And tomorrow morning we start all over again. Amy comes
Speaker 2: in at five am with Will it's wake up call,
Speaker 2: and then Neil and I join at six o'clock until
Speaker 2: just about now, and of course Cono and Ann are
Speaker 2: forever here. Doesn't change. This is handle on the law.
Speaker 2: Oh no, it's handle. Why would I say that? That's
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