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<v Speaker 1>You're listen Saints KFI AM six forty.

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<v Speaker 2>The Bill handles show on demand on the iHeartRadio f

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<v Speaker 2>KFI handle here. Thursday morning, April the tenth big news

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<v Speaker 2>that we're covering the tariff wars. The President invoked those tariffs.

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<v Speaker 2>The Dow and other markets collapsed. It went down ten

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<v Speaker 2>percent over four days, and the markets were roiling, and

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<v Speaker 2>the President, who said, oh no, I'm not backing down,

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<v Speaker 2>back down. He said, okay, there'll be a ninety day

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<v Speaker 2>pause on the tariffs that I have invoked all over the.

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<v Speaker 1>World, and China not so much. China. There is no pause.

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<v Speaker 2>As matter of fact, China increase or the President increased

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<v Speaker 2>the terrorifts on China to one hundred and twenty five

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<v Speaker 2>percent of all goods coming in or the vast majority

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<v Speaker 2>of goods coming in. And so there's a full full

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<v Speaker 2>scale trade war going out with China right now. They

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<v Speaker 2>just raised their terriffs against the States products to eighty

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<v Speaker 2>four percent, which is kind of interesting.

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<v Speaker 1>You'd think it go tit for tat all.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, So the market came back yesterday when he announced

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<v Speaker 2>the pause, it went up three thousand points, and now

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<v Speaker 2>today it is down one thousand points. As of right now,

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<v Speaker 2>the market does not like volatility, and tell me that

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<v Speaker 2>is in volatility.

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<v Speaker 1>Also tomorrow is ask handle anything.

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<v Speaker 2>And this is what we do every week at eight thirty,

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<v Speaker 2>and that is I answer questions because people ask about

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<v Speaker 2>all of us. What's handled like, what's cobalt like, what's

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<v Speaker 2>Tim like, what's Neil like? And so I just thought

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<v Speaker 2>we answer where I'd answer personal questions just for fun.

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<v Speaker 1>Hugely embarrassing for me. So here's what you do during

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<v Speaker 1>the course of the show.

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<v Speaker 2>You go to the iHeart app and click onto Kfi

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<v Speaker 2>microphone in the upper right hand corner and click on

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<v Speaker 2>that and record a question.

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<v Speaker 1>And you got fifteen seconds.

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<v Speaker 2>A question, not an opinion, because if you think I

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<v Speaker 2>care about your opinion, I do not.

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<v Speaker 1>So if you have a question, go right ahead and

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<v Speaker 1>do it. Now.

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<v Speaker 2>Here is a real interesting but not surprising survey. Newsweek

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<v Speaker 2>has created a map showing the world's most hated countries

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<v Speaker 2>and where do you think the United States came in.

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<v Speaker 2>First of all, let me tell you about the map.

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<v Speaker 2>It's based on the World Population Review and research that

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<v Speaker 2>was done for this year, and I'll quote now by

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<v Speaker 2>combining reports and public opinion surveys, from all over the globe.

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<v Speaker 2>So this is, you know, okay, pretty comprehensive and legitimate.

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<v Speaker 2>And who do you think the three most hated countries in.

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<v Speaker 1>The world are?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, China, the United States coming in second, and Russia.

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<v Speaker 2>And why Well, for China, it's authoritarian regime, sweatshops, contribution

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<v Speaker 2>to pollution, refusal to grant independence to Hong Kong, Taiwan, Macau,

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<v Speaker 2>and its treatment of the Weiger people. Russia, we're severely

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<v Speaker 2>restructing both personal rights and freedoms and democracy as a whole,

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<v Speaker 2>and the war in Ukraine now against the United States.

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<v Speaker 1>Why does the world hate us?

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<v Speaker 2>And we're number two because of our tendency to overstep

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<v Speaker 2>when trying to influence international events in a way that

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<v Speaker 2>benefits the US.

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<v Speaker 1>Absolutely, that's what we do.

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<v Speaker 2>And on top of this, the culture wars are looked

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<v Speaker 2>at all over the world as something really negative, and

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<v Speaker 2>we're hated deep and increasingly increasingly hostile political division between

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<v Speaker 2>liberals and conservatives. That's a quote, our love of firearms

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<v Speaker 2>and fast food. The world hates us because of fast food. Well,

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<v Speaker 2>maybe because there's a McDonald's or a KFC or Burger

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<v Speaker 2>King in almost every country out there. And a perceived

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<v Speaker 2>sense of entitlement among Americans. One of the things about

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<v Speaker 2>Americans that people do not like is we are exceptionalists.

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<v Speaker 1>We are better than anybody in the world.

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<v Speaker 2>We are the most the greatest country in the world,

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<v Speaker 2>which in many ways we are.

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<v Speaker 3>But that's pretty broad strokes.

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<v Speaker 2>How are we with healthcare one of the worst countries

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<v Speaker 2>in the world, certainly in the industrialized world. How about

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<v Speaker 2>literacy maybe number thirty. How about infant mortality maybe number forty.

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<v Speaker 2>So when we say we're the greatest country in the world,

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<v Speaker 2>let's be specific about it. And you know, the rest

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<v Speaker 2>of the world doesn't do that. You go to the

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<v Speaker 2>Scandinavian countries, which in many ways are the best country

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<v Speaker 2>in the world.

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<v Speaker 1>Free education.

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<v Speaker 2>Phenomenon, minal education that people gat and it's paid for

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<v Speaker 2>by the taxpayer.

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<v Speaker 1>For example, I was just in Italy in Sicily.

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<v Speaker 3>Very poor, potholes on every road.

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<v Speaker 1>Dirty.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, there's a lot wrong with Sicily. But let

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<v Speaker 2>me tell you what happened. Lindsay got very ill, and

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<v Speaker 2>she's asthmatic and she has some lung issues and she

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<v Speaker 2>had to go to the hospital.

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<v Speaker 1>We had to take her to.

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<v Speaker 2>The emergency room and the emergency room is an old building,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, it's kind of a scrubby area of town.

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<v Speaker 1>And so she goes in and we figure, okay, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, how good can this be? Phenomenal?

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<v Speaker 2>Doctors waited not even five minutes to go see a doctor,

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<v Speaker 2>got a media treatment. By the way, world class equipment

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<v Speaker 2>is as good as anything here and other major capitals.

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<v Speaker 2>And on top of that, she needed an E and T.

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<v Speaker 2>She needed a doctor to look at her lungs and

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<v Speaker 2>her sinuses. So we go upstairs, walk right in and

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<v Speaker 2>an E and T doc puts a scope down her

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<v Speaker 2>nose and looks and says, okay, here's what you need

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<v Speaker 2>and offer and then writes prescriptions. So on the way out,

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<v Speaker 2>I asked the nurse, Okay, how much do I pay?

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<v Speaker 1>Where do I pay for this? And she said, you

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<v Speaker 1>don't pay. What do you mean pay?

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<v Speaker 2>Our medicine is paid for by the taxpayer. There's no

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<v Speaker 2>place to pay. We have no mechanism for you to pay.

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<v Speaker 2>And this was phenomenal medicine. But we're the best in

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<v Speaker 2>the world, aren't we. That's why a lot of people

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<v Speaker 2>around the world do not like us and hate us,

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<v Speaker 2>because we tell people we're better than you. Well, you

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<v Speaker 2>know what do you think people like to be told that?

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<v Speaker 2>So we are exceptionalists.

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<v Speaker 1>I am not.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean I look at American and by the way,

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<v Speaker 2>I'd rather not live. I love having grown up and

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<v Speaker 2>live in America. And I tend on staying here even

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<v Speaker 2>if I'm going to retire and go to Italy, which

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<v Speaker 2>I've said, when I do retire, I'm still going to

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<v Speaker 2>stay here for months and months at a time because

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not leaving. I'm not losing my citizenship. I am

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<v Speaker 2>proud to be an American. But I tell you, if

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<v Speaker 2>I need medical care, good medical care, I'm walking into

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<v Speaker 2>an emergency room. I'm waiting five minutes. I'm getting world

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<v Speaker 2>class medicine, and I'm not paying for it.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, I want to talk.

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<v Speaker 2>To you a little bit about television, and let's go

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<v Speaker 2>back a little bit in history, and I'm telling I'm

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<v Speaker 2>talking away or we're talking about Amazon, and Amazon on

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<v Speaker 2>is where everybody buys, or a lot of people buy,

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<v Speaker 2>and they do it on the internet. And then Amazon

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<v Speaker 2>comes out with you know what, We're going to produce

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<v Speaker 2>content and we're going to have a cable station, or

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<v Speaker 2>we're going to have a streaming station. And it's kind

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<v Speaker 2>of neat because you've got Netflix and you've got Paramount,

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<v Speaker 2>and you've got a bunch of companies going on streaming.

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<v Speaker 2>And this is the golden age of television.

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<v Speaker 1>I'll tell you that.

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<v Speaker 2>It used to be that when live TV was around

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<v Speaker 2>in the fifties, when it started, that was considered the

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<v Speaker 2>golden age of TV because you had these phenomenal actors,

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<v Speaker 2>major actors who broke into acting and into movies by

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<v Speaker 2>coming onto these live TV shows that were there were

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<v Speaker 2>little mini plays, well written, well acted, well crafted, and

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<v Speaker 2>that was considered the golden age. Then we went into

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<v Speaker 2>garbage in the sixties and seventies when the Beverly Hillbillies

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<v Speaker 2>were on top the heap, or my mother the car,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, can you imagine my mother the.

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<v Speaker 3>Car who pitches that, Hey, I got an idea for you.

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<v Speaker 1>These are the suits at the network.

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<v Speaker 3>I got an idea.

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<v Speaker 2>You've got a guy whose mother has died and comes

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<v Speaker 2>back reincarnated as a model T, as a Ford model T,

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<v Speaker 2>and they talk and that's the show. Or mister ed

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<v Speaker 2>Oh Wilbur a talking horse. Okay, that's where TV went.

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<v Speaker 2>And then you have the streaming services coming back and

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<v Speaker 2>we're doing phenomenal shows. I'm just watching Handmaide's Tale. Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>So here we are talking about TV. Could you ever

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<v Speaker 2>imagine the NFL being on Amazon. That's exactly what's happening.

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<v Speaker 2>Broadcast TV is moving towards screaming, and the broadcasters are

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<v Speaker 2>going nuts. Radio is in trouble because of streaming, because

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<v Speaker 2>of podcasting, because of other ways people are list So

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<v Speaker 2>the television stations, they're saying, well, the only way we're

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<v Speaker 2>going to survive is if we're allowed to consolidate. Federal

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<v Speaker 2>law does not allow TV networks to consolidate. Right now,

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<v Speaker 2>a TV network can only own two television stations in

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<v Speaker 2>a local market.

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<v Speaker 1>And so you have.

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<v Speaker 2>All the big players in a lot of trouble, and

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<v Speaker 2>what they're asking for, let us buy, let us consolidate.

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<v Speaker 2>That's the way we're going to survive, not so much

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<v Speaker 2>make money. So the National Association of Broadcasters just met a.

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<v Speaker 1>Few days ago in Las Vegas.

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<v Speaker 2>It's an annual convention of the broadcasters, and that was

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<v Speaker 2>the talk of the town, asking the FAA to please

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<v Speaker 2>or the FCC, I'm sorry to please allow consolidation, allow

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<v Speaker 2>us to own more stations in a given market, and

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<v Speaker 2>it's going to be more efficient. We're going to have

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<v Speaker 2>a better way of attracting advertisers. We're going to be

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<v Speaker 2>able to make more money with less. And that's what's

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<v Speaker 2>going on because you have I remember when it was

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<v Speaker 2>voice tracking. It used to be that every radio station

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<v Speaker 2>around the country had their own talent. Well, if you're

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<v Speaker 2>a big fan of Ryan Seacrest, who's still in radio,

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<v Speaker 2>by the way, the guy's phenomenal. I mean, he has

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<v Speaker 2>not forgotten radio, even though he's making a zillion dollars

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<v Speaker 2>on TV. You can hear Ryan seacrests in the morning

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<v Speaker 2>on I don't know, two hundred stations maybe.

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<v Speaker 1>And it's not even a question of syndication either.

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<v Speaker 2>It's a question of voice tracking, where he is the

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<v Speaker 2>host of local shows because they use his voice so

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<v Speaker 2>they don't have to pay local talent. And morning well,

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<v Speaker 2>morning shows do okay, but KA finds an outlier that

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<v Speaker 2>we have programming all day long, local programming.

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<v Speaker 3>It's just way too expensive to do.

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<v Speaker 2>And so without the government saying all right, let's change

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<v Speaker 2>things around, will allow you to consolidate, we're in trouble anyway.

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<v Speaker 1>Now.

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<v Speaker 2>The question of to slow down the problem that we're having.

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<v Speaker 2>For us, it's a problem, and we're talking about the

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<v Speaker 2>traditional media. For the consumer, for the listener, there are

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<v Speaker 2>more ways of listening.

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<v Speaker 3>And that's we're in the typewriter industry.

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<v Speaker 2>When the age of computers come out, and if we

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<v Speaker 2>don't figure out a way to make it more approachable

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<v Speaker 2>and just do a better product, you know, five years

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<v Speaker 2>from now.

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<v Speaker 1>Where are we going to be? I have no idea. Now.

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<v Speaker 1>That's like insurance companies.

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<v Speaker 2>Will give you free teeth cleaning if you have a

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<v Speaker 1>It's that kind of philosophy. And so the argument is is.

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<v Speaker 2>Fat people who lose a lot of weight are better

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<v Speaker 2>Now you've got company that are going, oh, no, no,

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<v Speaker 3>But that's long term.

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<v Speaker 1>Are you going to be around ten years from now,

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<v Speaker 2>No. And now even the insurance companies, even though the

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<v Speaker 2>have insurance companies and states, for example, that do pay

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<v Speaker 2>and today insurance companies in many cases are paying for it.

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<v Speaker 2>In some cases no. And employers, when you're talking about

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<v Speaker 3>If you are fat and not so good, there's the door.

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<v Speaker 1>If you can squeeze through it.

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<v Speaker 3>Thank you leave us alone. And that's the fight that's

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<v Speaker 1>And it used to be.

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<v Speaker 2>Look at the major tech companies what they did, what

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<v Speaker 1>Rooms and I mean, all just keep good people.

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<v Speaker 1>Not so much anymore?

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<v Speaker 3>All right, So that fight continues on, and both sides

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<v Speaker 1>It does help people are healthier.

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<v Speaker 3>But the other side is, yeah, we'll talk about that eight.

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<v Speaker 2>We're five years from now when you have already worked

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<v Speaker 1>That gets pretty pricey, all right.

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<v Speaker 2>Mo Kelly who is host of Later with Mo Kelly

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<v Speaker 2>every night Monday through Friday, seven to seven pm.

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<v Speaker 1>Morning. Mo, how's it going.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm it's going well. Let me just say congratulations to

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<v Speaker 3>Oh, thank you very much, greatly appreciate it.

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<v Speaker 2>Now this, you wouldn't expect a lawsuit involving Blade Runner,

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<v Speaker 2>Tesla and Warner Brothers.

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<v Speaker 1>Put those in a blender and what.

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<v Speaker 4>Do you get, mo, Well, Blade Runner twenty forty nine,

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<v Speaker 4>that specific movie. The production company for Blade Runner twenty

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<v Speaker 4>forty nine was Alcon Entertainment, and they're suing Warner Brothers

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<v Speaker 4>for one reason, in Tesla for another. One of the

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<v Speaker 4>issues is Alcon's charge of copyright infringement because images from

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<v Speaker 4>the movie were used to train AI tools for Tesla.

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<v Speaker 4>That's the first part. Tesla had an event on the

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<v Speaker 4>WB Warner Brothers lot and use visuals from the movie

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<v Speaker 4>against the will of Alcon Entertainment. But get this, Alcon

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<v Speaker 4>had argued prior to this lawsuit that company executives had

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<v Speaker 4>made it clear that under no circumstances could there be

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<v Speaker 4>quote any affiliation between the film and Tesla, specifically because

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<v Speaker 4>of musks massively amplified, highly politicized, capricious, and arbitrary behavior

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<v Speaker 5>And I quote, Okay.

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<v Speaker 2>So set up the scenario as to what happened again,

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<v Speaker 3>So you had Tesla on.

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<v Speaker 1>The Warner Brothers Lot. Do I have that writer or this.

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<v Speaker 5>Within the film. No, that's correct.

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<v Speaker 4>Tesla had an event on Warner Brother's life lot and

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<v Speaker 4>prior to that outcome said, hey, do not use anything

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<v Speaker 4>Alcon Entertainment Blade Runner twenty forty nine and each game specifically.

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<v Speaker 3>All right, did they have any kind of a deal?

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<v Speaker 5>Not from Alcon?

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<v Speaker 4>Now, Warner Brothers was the distribution company for Blade Runner

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<v Speaker 4>twenty forty nine, so there was a professional relationship. But

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<v Speaker 4>Alcon said, beyond distributing our film, it doesn't mean that

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<v Speaker 5>This is where the copyright infringement comes in.

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<v Speaker 1>Got it?

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<v Speaker 3>And oh this is fascinating too.

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<v Speaker 2>Was Tesla using the film at all or are there

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<v Speaker 2>any mentioned or do you see Tesla anywhere in the

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<v Speaker 5>No, No, not at all.

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<v Speaker 4>Now the specific issue that Alcon has what Tesla is

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<v Speaker 4>you have also used these images that we did not

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<v Speaker 4>approve to be used in this event. You've used it

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<v Speaker 1>How does that work? I'm a little confused.

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<v Speaker 2>How does an event where you have Tesla on the

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<v Speaker 4>That's the argument that they're going to have to make

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<v Speaker 4>and be able to prove that the images which were

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<v Speaker 5>That is at the heart of the whole case.

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<v Speaker 4>Now, this is an actual a narrow in term pretation

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<v Speaker 4>because there were other issues that Alcon had alleged and

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<v Speaker 4>the judge said, no, you can set that aside and

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<v Speaker 4>resolve that in mediation. This is the only part of

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<v Speaker 4>the actual lawsuit which is moving forward.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay.

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<v Speaker 3>And I didn't pay attention to this lawsuit.

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<v Speaker 1>And I want to, you know, put it on the

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<v Speaker 2>MO actually knows more about the law in this instance

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<v Speaker 2>than I do.

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<v Speaker 1>And Mo, we won't be doing that again.

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<v Speaker 2>I just want to let you know this will be

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<v Speaker 2>the last time you ever come up with a legal

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<v Speaker 2>interpretation that makes sense that I don't know about.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, I apologize as well.

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<v Speaker 2>You should, all right, MO, tonight seven to ten pm,

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<v Speaker 2>as every night later with MO Kelly, have a good one.

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<v Speaker 5>MO talks through my friend.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, all right, Moe's very bright guy. All right, now,

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<v Speaker 2>what is going on? Well, first of all, Gary and

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<v Speaker 2>Shannon twelve twenty talking about Trader Joe's tote bag. That's

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<v Speaker 2>But I didn't get cabbage patch dolls. I didn't get

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<v Speaker 2>ll I didn't get the pet rock. But this is today,

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<v Speaker 2>and they'll talk about how crazy life is out there.

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<v Speaker 2>Also tomorrow it's ask Handle anything. That one's fun where

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<v Speaker 2>and there's going to be just a lot of entertainment

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<v Speaker 2>And tomorrow morning we start all over again. Amy comes

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<v Speaker 2>in at five am with Will it's wake up call,

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<v Speaker 2>and then Neil and I join at six o'clock until

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<v Speaker 2>just about now, and of course Cono and Ann are

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<v Speaker 2>forever here. Doesn't change. This is handle on the law.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh no, it's handle. Why would I say that? That's

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<v Speaker 2>on Saturday. See I'm already there. Oh god, this is

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<v Speaker 2>k five am sixty. You've been listening to The Bill

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