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Speaker 2: fourteen fifty. I'm Steve Rivera and today is Dave Silver,
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Speaker 2: to zero, four, one, six, seventy four, forty would love
Speaker 2: to hear from you. Who's gonna win this weekend's game.
Speaker 2: I think now that people are kind of seeing the teams,
Speaker 2: they kind of be realistic of what's gonna happen. Eight
Speaker 2: and a half points. I think it would take crazily.
Speaker 2: It would make you take that only because only because
Speaker 2: the underdog always plays well. That's the only reason why.
Speaker 2: And it's at home, That's the only reason. I don't
Speaker 2: know if they're a better team. All I know is
Speaker 2: four months ago you didn't think issue was a better team.
Speaker 3: No, they were picked last in the Big twelve. How
Speaker 3: does this happen? Yeah, how does this happen?
Speaker 2: And there was one of the fourth, fifth, whatever, and
Speaker 2: now they're going to finish fourteen, fifteenth, sixteen whatever is Yeah,
Speaker 2: when you will never if you say it would give
Speaker 2: you one hundred and one that you're gonna do this,
Speaker 2: you say, there's that's impossible, that's not gonna happen.
Speaker 4: Yeah, they got to bring out their their big guns,
Speaker 4: you know, bring out their stamina, and bring out their heart.
Speaker 3: You know that that's it, the heart.
Speaker 2: I mean, what does this mean if this is that
Speaker 2: important to you, I mean to everybody.
Speaker 5: A lot of guys, this is the very last time
Speaker 5: they'll ever play football organized football. So right, you know,
Speaker 5: it's just kind of how the finality of it is.
Speaker 5: We you know this is the last game, and you
Speaker 5: know they always draw out those cliches about this.
Speaker 3: Is our bowl game.
Speaker 5: You know we're not going to play in December, but
Speaker 5: this is going to be it for us.
Speaker 2: Right, what's your what's your fondust memory? You've been around
Speaker 2: some city three? You did TV then back then right games.
Speaker 3: Or I mean what you mean in this rival just
Speaker 3: the whole thing.
Speaker 5: You did TV shows, did posting of the coaches shows. Yeah,
Speaker 5: up through the Chuck Cecil season. So we did that game.
Speaker 5: I did that game, so that has to be the biggest.
Speaker 5: That was the highlight. Yeah, that was that was good.
Speaker 3: You know. The night the year before was also big.
Speaker 5: Was an eighty five up there and ASU had to
Speaker 5: beat Arizona to go to the rose Ball for the
Speaker 5: first time and they didn't. And that was Max and
Speaker 5: Dejas kicking a couple huge long field goals to win
Speaker 5: that game. I think it was like sixteen to thirteen
Speaker 5: was a final score. But then the following year was
Speaker 5: the Chuck Cecil game and then they were again they
Speaker 5: were in the middle. From eighty two through ninety Arizona
Speaker 5: won every game and then there was a tie mixt
Speaker 5: in there as well.
Speaker 3: Soame yah. I mean I was kind of part of
Speaker 3: all that.
Speaker 5: It didn't didn't didn't. It wasn't around for the eighty
Speaker 5: two game. But like as we're going to talk to
Speaker 5: Jay Dobbins, I remember that eighty three game.
Speaker 3: That was like the first Wow, this is pretty cool.
Speaker 3: I was watching it on TV at the station. Well,
Speaker 3: we covered.
Speaker 2: It because Frank Cush and Hill talk more about Frank
Speaker 2: Kush kind of owned Arizona for a long time.
Speaker 3: Long time. Yeah, yeah, I was going up here as
Speaker 3: a kid watching.
Speaker 4: I always loved you know, Arizona was the team, the
Speaker 4: home team, and and uh it's always a fun day
Speaker 4: to get out there and get into the sports arena.
Speaker 3: Are you part of the not Hill gang.
Speaker 4: I didn't tall good too much all that type of stuff,
Speaker 4: but you know I visited the frarities and some fraternities
Speaker 4: every once in a while, and yeah, it was always
Speaker 4: a good.
Speaker 3: Time, you know, how to live it up. It was
Speaker 3: always a good time to be at the campus.
Speaker 5: It was always something special too when you're the visiting.
Speaker 5: Even media, like we would go to Sun Devil Stadium
Speaker 5: and is walking through the parking lot was somewhat dangerous.
Speaker 5: You just never knew who what was happening there. You
Speaker 5: know what they realized we were from Tucson.
Speaker 3: We heard about it.
Speaker 2: Well, you know it was dangerous walking up that hill
Speaker 2: to get to the to the to the.
Speaker 4: B Yeah, espectually they you know, they've hosted some NFL
Speaker 4: sure time at the SCU Stadium and those were some
Speaker 4: fun times.
Speaker 5: Yeah, to day Super Bowl the Dallas Pittsburgh. I was
Speaker 5: there for that night.
Speaker 2: Thirty six, right, that's the last time Arizona the Cowboys
Speaker 2: were any goods. Sorry about that exactly, Sorry about that,
Speaker 2: but it's true when you're growing.
Speaker 4: Up in that childhood and you're on a sports team,
Speaker 4: a baseball team, a football team, or other sports team.
Speaker 4: I was on a golf team, right, it was always
Speaker 4: a great thing to be there for the teammates and
Speaker 4: be there for your city and ye hiding bring back
Speaker 4: a win, you know.
Speaker 3: Right right, we'll see if they can do that.
Speaker 2: So I've been asking the guys the last two three days, guys,
Speaker 2: and okay, so you're finishing. If you're four and seven
Speaker 2: going into this game and you've had a kind of
Speaker 2: a miserable year. A miserable may not be the right word,
Speaker 2: but it's let's use that, and you beat the issue,
Speaker 2: does it become okay at least? Or is it still
Speaker 2: miserable and we just happened to beat a Issue? Well,
Speaker 2: I mean they could say that we beat them. They
Speaker 2: can say they beat them three years in a row,
Speaker 2: if that, if that matters, you know, I mean, they
Speaker 2: so they've you know, they've had there's no run here.
Speaker 3: There's that.
Speaker 5: I mean really since like twenty seventeen, that was kind
Speaker 5: of a rough little stretch where Issue won like five
Speaker 5: years in a row, four years in a row.
Speaker 2: You remember that day five, It was with something something.
Speaker 2: First Summon's first year, they had seventy seven games. They
Speaker 2: were no, no, no, that was the last one. But
Speaker 2: the first one I think someone had them pretty easily,
Speaker 2: and then the issue came back and won.
Speaker 3: Yeah, they lost.
Speaker 4: You know, there's a little fine line between this enablement
Speaker 4: and or just carrying on the regular social seasons, or
Speaker 4: or really refining and regrouping and getting on or somebody
Speaker 4: saying you, oh, you did a good job, boy, could
Speaker 4: just keep coming back. Yeah, Well, some people just don't
Speaker 4: want to hear that, especially if you're a you're really
Speaker 4: going hold you don't want to hear just a good job.
Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 5: You know, again sometimes it's overstated by the coaches, but
Speaker 5: when they do get to go to a bowl game,
Speaker 5: you know they have that extra a couple of weeks of.
Speaker 3: Practice that's gone.
Speaker 5: You know, we want to see these guys again until
Speaker 5: spring football now, so that's that's it, and who knows
Speaker 5: who's he going to be here.
Speaker 2: And that's when hope springs eternal again, and then you
Speaker 2: have the hope that you're going to be better next year.
Speaker 5: Yeah, because doesn't the portal open like pretty soon, like
Speaker 5: mid December, the first first.
Speaker 3: Version of it. And I'm sure you've paid attention.
Speaker 2: They've lost a few good kids already because recruits right right,
Speaker 2: the one just jumped to Florida.
Speaker 3: State of Florida, I can't remember. Yeah, so you know,
Speaker 3: and the kids notice, they notice, and by the same
Speaker 3: token too.
Speaker 5: It's going to get the coaches, you know, after Saturday
Speaker 5: they can start recruiting again. I guess I'm not sure
Speaker 5: about some of the windows and stuff, but that's you know,
Speaker 5: they're not going to be restricted.
Speaker 2: George, I think I asked you this off the air.
Speaker 2: You know, he'll be a restaurant, a successful restaurant. You
Speaker 2: haven't been bothered by people calling about, hey, you have
Speaker 2: any money for n I l.
Speaker 4: We donate through various charities throughout the area, and most
Speaker 4: of them are are pretty.
Speaker 3: Larger charities, so they donate through their subsidiary, right, Okay,
Speaker 3: I would believe. So yeah, and you get to and
Speaker 3: you had tickets to know that, So that's kind of
Speaker 3: people doing.
Speaker 4: We definitely love to give gifts this out for the
Speaker 4: holidays and for families in need, like we're supporting one
Speaker 4: of the Turkey Thons today through our friend Acroles.
Speaker 3: And so we definitely like to do our part.
Speaker 4: And yeah, but there is there's no free lunch, and
Speaker 4: I don't know it's it's it can be challenging to
Speaker 4: make sure.
Speaker 3: That everybody gets funded, you know, right, and we keep
Speaker 3: our own funded sure.
Speaker 2: Right, No, no, And that's that's the world we live in,
Speaker 2: right and now, Nil, I'm not sure where you they live.
Speaker 2: I don't don't even say Dave would kind of live
Speaker 2: in the same area, but not. And these kids are
Speaker 2: making twice, three, four or five times when we make nothing.
Speaker 2: It's unfair or fair whatever. But who would have thought that?
Speaker 4: Yeah, we know my dad played in the Tucson Open
Speaker 4: quite a few times twenty some straight years and his
Speaker 4: biggest paycheck was like, you know, six hundred and fifty
Speaker 4: bucks or something like that.
Speaker 3: That's a professional tournament, right, I.
Speaker 5: Know those are the persons in those You is not
Speaker 5: what we're used to saying. I think Arnie and Jack
Speaker 5: Nicholas and Tiger Woods for TV get back.
Speaker 4: Onto like if the season is a good season or
Speaker 4: a slum season here and there.
Speaker 3: You know, I was talking with a friend of mine.
Speaker 4: He has this kid and pop born football, and they
Speaker 4: took they won their championships, and then they went to
Speaker 4: the state thing and they lost the state you know,
Speaker 4: but they moved on to some other big championship.
Speaker 3: It was the next They had to practice and get there.
Speaker 4: Just because they lost one game, you know, it doesn't
Speaker 4: mean that they can get down and lose focus. You know,
Speaker 4: the kids got a big blond career to stand behind,
Speaker 4: and he's just going to practice. He said, well, he
Speaker 4: got you this far to get you here, you know,
Speaker 4: and you did great to get here, so let's just
Speaker 4: keep pushing.
Speaker 6: You know.
Speaker 3: That would be my advice for anything, right, for anything.
Speaker 2: Now these now these guys have to understand that's what
Speaker 2: it's about, playing hard. And to me, that's been one
Speaker 2: of the issues all year. And maybe I haven't seen
Speaker 2: it correctly or whatever, but you just have and played
Speaker 2: hard enough for it.
Speaker 5: And you know, again, you've had a quarterback coming back
Speaker 5: after a great season, a great receiver, a defensive back.
Speaker 5: Isn't he projected to be to Carrio Davis a number.
Speaker 3: In the first round? Do we see this?
Speaker 5: I don't see it, but well, I mean he's big,
Speaker 5: he's I don't know, he's had both good and bad.
Speaker 5: Right this season, it seems like he's had a couple
Speaker 5: of big moments and a couple of words like wait,
Speaker 5: how do you not cover that guy?
Speaker 1: Right?
Speaker 3: So, I don't know, they seem to have a few players,
Speaker 3: and again the injuries mounted, and.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and maybe it's one of those years where the
Speaker 2: gods just say you can't have everything, especially two years
Speaker 2: in a row.
Speaker 5: Yeah, stepping into new stadiums, new opponents, new just environments
Speaker 5: of playing football that just maybe they just weren't used
Speaker 5: to them. Now they're you know, they at least had
Speaker 5: that one chance this year, and we'll see how things
Speaker 5: go next year.
Speaker 2: I joked about this earlier because I was on the
Speaker 2: Phoenix radio show on Fox up there and he says,
Speaker 2: how do they feel about going into the Big twelve?
Speaker 2: But it says, I think they're petitioning to get back
Speaker 2: in the Western Athletic Conference.
Speaker 3: Yeah, they hand can they go backwards? Because because these side?
Speaker 3: Can they join the pack two and maybe make it three?
Speaker 7: Right?
Speaker 3: And we joke, of course, but you know, it's been
Speaker 3: a tough year. It just has now. Look at basketball,
Speaker 3: I know he don't even got basketball yet.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we haven't got a basketball it's gonna be people
Speaker 2: in this town for basketball haven't have not been used
Speaker 2: to losing, like like they might have to be get.
Speaker 3: Used to losing. They lose to Duke and then Kansas
Speaker 3: smokes him last night, or you know, beats beats Duke. No,
Speaker 3: it's gonna be crazy because Duke is pretty darn good.
Speaker 3: You know, obviously Kansas is too.
Speaker 2: And then you talked about Gonzaga losing a couple of
Speaker 2: hours ago or an hour ago. Uh, it's gonna be
Speaker 2: a crazy year, crazy year.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I got on the about halftime in Virginia. West
Speaker 4: Virginia was down about ten points, right, I just turned
Speaker 4: it on.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but another Big twelve team, Yukon. Yukon's lost too straight, right,
Speaker 2: so we'll see what happens. It's gonna be a fun year.
Speaker 3: And as in Iowa State is also playing really well.
Speaker 3: Yeah already.
Speaker 5: You know, we talked about the Big twelve, but already
Speaker 5: they're showing their their true colors here in the first
Speaker 5: few weeks.
Speaker 3: Right, No, it's gonna be fun. It's only November.
Speaker 2: That's why I say people who follow Arizona are used
Speaker 2: to winning, especially in November. We need to kind of temper,
Speaker 2: that temper that because it's gonna be a long year.
Speaker 2: They're gonna win games they shouldn't win. They're gonna lose
Speaker 2: games they shouldn't lose. But it all matters when March
Speaker 2: in March. In March, that's when your business goes up.
Speaker 2: People go watch the games that your place.
Speaker 3: And March is our business month. A yeah, because of hoops, snowbirds,
Speaker 3: snowbirds and hoops. Yeah, it's it's a fun. It's just
Speaker 3: a good time to be in the desert. Tell everybody
Speaker 3: where you guys are located exactly.
Speaker 4: Rats wanted Sunrise right across the street from the new
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Speaker 2: So you're on the north northeast side, northeast side, and
Speaker 2: we're on the south west side.
Speaker 4: We've been there for thirteen years. It's a continuation of
Speaker 4: our previous location, which was a Plaza Palamino La Cafe
Speaker 4: in nineteen eighty eight. We've got our cooks for over
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Speaker 2: I remember taking George Ravelin, who back then we were
Speaker 2: great friends. He's still around and he loved that place,
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Speaker 3: This message brought you by by George. What do you
Speaker 3: know job? Yeah, George, thanks for joining us. We're gonna
Speaker 3: take our break. Thank you so much for having me.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, we'll be going by. I went today and
Speaker 2: I had to have the well, the shrimp cocktail.
Speaker 3: Remember oh yeah, we got that when I was there.
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, so I said, I got to go back.
Speaker 3: I feel like some troops. Good bye. Great to see
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Speaker 3: Thank you, Dave. That's told I would to do. It's
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Speaker 3: We gotta go. Thanks Thanks again, George. Thank you.
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Speaker 2: Hey, welcome back to my I on the Ball here
Speaker 2: on Fox Sports fourteen fifty. I'm Steve Rivera. You're Jay Dobbins.
Speaker 2: Jay Dobbins.
Speaker 3: How are you. I'm hoping that this comes out.
Speaker 7: Good to see you guys, good, Thanks for having me on.
Speaker 3: Sure sure.
Speaker 2: We've been talking Remene about the good old days and
Speaker 2: the ASU U u of a A series obviously, and
Speaker 2: I when talking to Ryl a few years ago, uh,
Speaker 2: miss Smith and missus Smith.
Speaker 3: She hated, She said her her husband hated hated losing
Speaker 3: to issue.
Speaker 7: Well, you know the on the board in our locker room,
Speaker 7: Coach Smith had his goals and the first goal was
Speaker 7: beat asu That's that was it. That's and that's exactly
Speaker 7: what these kids are facing. Tomorrow night or tomorrow afternoon.
Speaker 5: Yeah, what do you remember? What are your memories of
Speaker 5: that game? I remember seeing The first time I saw
Speaker 5: the game was in eighty three. Were you the u
Speaker 5: of A by then or were you still at arkas
Speaker 5: I was.
Speaker 7: I played in the eighty two I played in the
Speaker 7: eighty two game where we stole the rose ball from him.
Speaker 7: I played in the eighty three game where Max kicked
Speaker 7: the last second field goal to win seventeen fifteen. And
Speaker 7: I played in the eighty four game where we won
Speaker 7: here in Tucson sixteen to ten.
Speaker 2: Could you talk real quick about just the importance of
Speaker 2: because you guys started a streak and that how cool
Speaker 2: was that?
Speaker 3: Because Dave said it was cool? Right you gives your
Speaker 3: fist years. Oh yeah, that you were right in there.
Speaker 3: It was beginning that streak, right exactly.
Speaker 7: Yeah, absolutely, you know, And what we faced was was
Speaker 7: different but similar than these guys like we were on
Speaker 7: those probation teams, and so you know, no one's coming
Speaker 7: to save you. Life is ten percent what happens to you,
Speaker 7: in ninety percent what you choose to.
Speaker 3: Do about it.
Speaker 7: Most people don't care.
Speaker 3: About your problems.
Speaker 7: There are some that are even happy you have them,
Speaker 7: you know, get up, fight back or be a victim.
Speaker 7: Don't be soft, don't quit, play hard.
Speaker 3: That that was our mentality.
Speaker 2: And you guys were the perfect group for that because
Speaker 2: you guys were that. You guys were painting the asses.
Speaker 2: Tough dudes. Just you know, this is not gonna happen.
Speaker 2: So when you were getting beat as a group in
Speaker 2: that streak, what were you thinking, we can pull this off.
Speaker 3: We just have to do what.
Speaker 7: You know what, I'll tell you what and know one
Speaker 7: that I was coming on, I made this short list
Speaker 7: of NFL players that were on those teams. This is
Speaker 7: who we had on our roster, and I'll probably leave
Speaker 7: out a few. Brad Anderson, Jeff Keywell, Chris brew Or,
Speaker 7: Van Johnson, Tomunnacliffe, Fel Freeman, Mike Freeman, David Adams, Randy Robbins,
Speaker 7: Ricky Hunley, Laman Hunley, Bubba Gross, Chuck cecil Byron Evan,
Speaker 7: Steve Bodway, John Kaiser, Dave Would.
Speaker 3: Those are just some.
Speaker 7: Names that popped in my head. Those winners win, yeah,
Speaker 7: and those guys were gonna win football games.
Speaker 5: And it's amazing too because they've had great careers after
Speaker 5: football too, that. You know, I'm sure a lot of
Speaker 5: that kind of started, you know, with Larry and with
Speaker 5: coach Roganan. We talked about before, you know, some of
Speaker 5: the leadership that they were around as kids and you
Speaker 5: were around. What was it like, you know, to be
Speaker 5: coached by that that generation of coaches who were you know,
Speaker 5: kind of old school I would assume, coming out of
Speaker 5: the Beauchembeckler School and things like that. What was that like.
Speaker 7: Really old school? Dave?
Speaker 3: And you know, I'll tell you what.
Speaker 7: The thing I remember about those coaches is enthusiasm is contagious.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 7: They were always saying, if you want something you never had,
Speaker 7: you're gonna have to go do things you've never done.
Speaker 7: If you want people to remember your name, you have
Speaker 7: to do something they can't forget.
Speaker 3: And this is the game to do it in. Yeah,
Speaker 3: you're right, You're right.
Speaker 2: I want to go back to when you were a
Speaker 2: kid growing up in the seventies here, what did you
Speaker 2: think of the rivalry or the game?
Speaker 3: You know what, I loved it.
Speaker 7: I was a big Scott Piper fan when I was
Speaker 7: a kid. You know, he was the kind of the
Speaker 7: second fiddle to t Bell as a receiver and I
Speaker 7: always loved Scottie Piper. He played, always played great in
Speaker 7: those games. I remember JJ, I remember John Jefferson making
Speaker 7: that one handed layout catch in the N zone for ASU.
Speaker 7: So yeah, I remember those guys. I write this, I
Speaker 7: would take this.
Speaker 3: This was when you were a kid.
Speaker 7: Little kids could actually get on the sun Trend and
Speaker 7: ride down to campus and get in the not hole
Speaker 7: and not have to worry about being in trouble or
Speaker 7: get and someone attacking you. And that was old school.
Speaker 7: That was back in the day.
Speaker 5: Yeah, a lot of close games, a lot of weird games,
Speaker 5: you know, games unpredictable. That seems to kind of be
Speaker 5: the story, you know, even today, of this entire series
Speaker 5: through the years. I'm just looking at some of the games,
Speaker 5: like even what you mentioned know seventeen, fifteen, sixteen, ten,
Speaker 5: sixteen thirteen. I mean that's low scoring, tight defensive battles,
Speaker 5: and those are those are.
Speaker 7: The funnest games to play in, where like what you
Speaker 7: do matters every play, and you know, like going back
Speaker 7: reminiscing to some of those old school rivalry games. Coach
Speaker 7: Smith was on Coach Young's staff playing against those Frank.
Speaker 3: Kush teams, and that's.
Speaker 7: Where he learned and built that hatred for the rival.
Speaker 3: So let me ask you.
Speaker 2: Everyone talks and now I posed this today earlier, they're
Speaker 2: four and seven. It's a mediocre, a miserable type of
Speaker 2: season because of what the expectations. Where you win this game,
Speaker 2: does it make it less miserable?
Speaker 3: One?
Speaker 2: And then Dave says, well, it's bragging rights. How many
Speaker 2: times did you get to use those bragging rights if
Speaker 2: you just win the game?
Speaker 6: Yeah?
Speaker 7: Right on, I'm using them right now. I played in
Speaker 7: three rivalry games and won.
Speaker 3: All three of them.
Speaker 5: Okay, and again there were no bowl games, as you
Speaker 5: mentioned the probation, so I mean they went to a
Speaker 5: bowl game the next year at eighty five. But you're right,
Speaker 5: I mean that was it. You guys are finished, and
Speaker 5: that was kind of how the season ended. So it
Speaker 5: had to be kind of a cool way to wrap
Speaker 5: it up.
Speaker 2: Well, if you went to Phoenix and did people recognize
Speaker 2: you or did you tuck a lot.
Speaker 3: Of crap up there?
Speaker 7: You know what, like when you win and if you've
Speaker 7: got your school colors on, you don't have to talk crap.
Speaker 3: They know that's true.
Speaker 7: They know you don't have to say a word. You
Speaker 7: can just look at them and give them a wink.
Speaker 3: That's true. And who's going to mess with you anyway?
Speaker 1: Right?
Speaker 7: Well, you know, you just you learn so much and
Speaker 7: you learn, like we said earlier in this conversation, like
Speaker 7: like life's not fair. Yeah, and if you're looking at
Speaker 7: for it to be fair, you know what fair is
Speaker 7: where you go to eat cotton candy and ride carnival rives.
Speaker 7: No one feels sorry for you. There's no time for that.
Speaker 7: These kids got to suck it up and play the
Speaker 7: hardest game they played all year. There's nothing to save
Speaker 7: it for.
Speaker 2: Right, So when you look at the season and you
Speaker 2: I'm sure you've been to a game or two, what
Speaker 2: do you see?
Speaker 3: What do you see?
Speaker 2: Because you know, I'm going to show with Byron Evans
Speaker 2: and David Adams and I've seen What do you go
Speaker 2: watch when you go to a game?
Speaker 3: Do you see certain things or look for certain things?
Speaker 11: Well?
Speaker 6: You know what I like?
Speaker 7: I love watching the receiver play. And you know it's
Speaker 7: it's been really a privilege for us as fans here
Speaker 7: in town to watch t MAC over the last few years.
Speaker 7: No one has ever done it on this campus as
Speaker 7: well as that kid has played his position.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but you know, before the year started, and I
Speaker 2: think we may have had you on the show before.
Speaker 2: I said, at the end of the day, this is
Speaker 2: in August, And I said, and I've been here thirty
Speaker 2: seven years.
Speaker 3: I didn't cover football all the time. I covered basketball.
Speaker 2: I said, but the end of the day, end of
Speaker 2: the year, the team Mac will be the best player
Speaker 2: to ever have played here. At you of a I
Speaker 2: kind of can't maybe maybe have to walk that back only.
Speaker 3: Because of the circumstances, but I totally agree with you. Well,
Speaker 3: you know what, the.
Speaker 7: Kid's going to be playing on Sundays pretty soon, and
Speaker 7: we're going to be as Arizona fans and as people
Speaker 7: that you know, residents of Tucson, we're gonna be able
Speaker 7: to remember when that kid played for us.
Speaker 5: Yeah, he's pretty special obviously, even even when he doesn't
Speaker 5: make the catcher when he's out of bounds, he's making
Speaker 5: spectacular plays. What about that position, you know, I mean,
Speaker 5: those guys are so athletic and so creative, and it's
Speaker 5: almost I always talk about, well you just throw it
Speaker 5: up there and see if they can go get it.
Speaker 3: Has that changed over the years when from.
Speaker 7: When you when you played, you know, I'll tell you
Speaker 7: what changed. I'll tell you what changed is those receiver gloves. Oh, Like,
Speaker 7: no one wore gloves when I was playing. Everybody played
Speaker 7: bare handed. And those receiver gloves, man, those are game changers.
Speaker 3: Yeah, well, who's the blitnik cuff? Who was the sticky
Speaker 3: the glue? Yeah, just sticky? And you you were not
Speaker 3: that guy. You were the possession guy, weren't you.
Speaker 7: Yeah?
Speaker 1: That was you know what.
Speaker 7: I had a role to play. I knew what my
Speaker 7: job for my team was. That they weren't going to
Speaker 7: throw the ball over the top to me. I wasn't
Speaker 7: going to catch the ball over my shoulders and run
Speaker 7: into the end zone and kiss the cheerleaders.
Speaker 1: Man.
Speaker 7: I was going to like run an out cut on
Speaker 7: third down and get the crap knocked out of me.
Speaker 3: And I loved it. You know what, Jay, that's the issue.
Speaker 3: I mean, Callan played it really well. Last year.
Speaker 2: He was the second guy, third guy or whatever. This
Speaker 2: year they didn't have a second or third guy.
Speaker 3: You think, well, you know, you look at.
Speaker 7: The criticisms that the offense has received and Noah's received.
Speaker 7: He had t Mac, which is a first rounder playing
Speaker 7: with them.
Speaker 3: Last year.
Speaker 7: He had Jacob Cowing, who's an NFL receiver, and he
Speaker 7: had Tanner McLaughlin, who's I think I'm the I'm the
Speaker 7: Bengals roster. He had three NFL caliber receivers to throw to.
Speaker 7: That's that makes a difference.
Speaker 5: Yeah, he had a running back to was Michael Wiley.
Speaker 5: I mean a lot of a lot of weapons, Joel Colemans. Yeah,
Speaker 5: so yeah, things definitely changed a.
Speaker 7: Lot of weapons. But you know what, you know what
Speaker 7: that sports and people are going to come and they're
Speaker 7: going to go. And when you put your work in,
Speaker 7: when the opportunity comes, winners close on that opportunity and
Speaker 7: take advantage of it because if you don't, the next.
Speaker 3: Guy is going to Yeah, no question.
Speaker 2: In fact, in being on the show, had a lot
Speaker 2: of the X guys come on and they've used the
Speaker 2: word disappointment. I mean they don't even hesitate because of
Speaker 2: the year that they've seen with their team.
Speaker 3: How do you feel about it?
Speaker 7: Well, you know how you fix that disappointment. You win
Speaker 7: your last game, you beat your rival, You start that
Speaker 7: enthusiasm going into your off season, going into your next year.
Speaker 7: That's beating as U fix is a whole lot of problems.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Yeah, we talked about coaching, at least I do
Speaker 2: on the show. Jay, I know you coached, you know,
Speaker 2: as an assistant and as a head coach.
Speaker 3: How were you?
Speaker 2: And I say that, and then I say this about Brennan,
Speaker 2: very nonchalant, if that's the right word, very straightforward, doesn't
Speaker 2: really get angry or yell, you.
Speaker 3: Know, collapse and all that stuff.
Speaker 2: And I'm not saying that's the bad not a bad way,
Speaker 2: but but to me, you kind of wish that he
Speaker 2: was more fiery and that the kids would play harder
Speaker 2: for him. That's just my view and maybe a few
Speaker 2: other people. How would you be? And and does that matter?
Speaker 2: I mean to me, coaching matters, but the style of
Speaker 2: coach does that matter?
Speaker 7: I think it matters. And I think teams and businesses
Speaker 7: and families follow the personality of their leader. Yes, Like
Speaker 7: when I was coaching, like I was super emotional and
Speaker 7: I played emotional. I played reckless.
Speaker 3: I coached reckless.
Speaker 7: Too much at sometimes in hindsight, too much at sometimes.
Speaker 7: But what I wanted to do for my kids when
Speaker 7: I was coaching is.
Speaker 3: I wanted to show them.
Speaker 7: I wanted to be a first person demonstration that enthusiasm effort,
Speaker 7: energy and attitude that'll take you through. Those are non negotiable.
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, yeah, And then you know Brent kind of
Speaker 5: has that facade. He's kind of calm and you know,
Speaker 5: pretty looks like he's a quiet guy. And maybe it works,
Speaker 5: maybe it doesn't work. It's it's obviously too early to
Speaker 5: tell here at Arizona how it's going to play out.
Speaker 5: But you know, you look at the dick tomis and
Speaker 5: you look at you know, Larry was pretty was Larry Loud.
Speaker 5: I don't think he was.
Speaker 3: He was emotional after the games.
Speaker 7: I know, but was he Larry was? Was was very
Speaker 7: emotional and and Larry wasn't demnstrat is on the sidelines,
Speaker 7: but in private, he like he was merciless in private
Speaker 7: and if you had it coming, like you were going
Speaker 7: to get it, but like he would jump you and
Speaker 7: and and and he would make you pay. But he
Speaker 7: was also the first guy to praise you when you
Speaker 7: did something right. It wasn't a one way street.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well you're talking them about your style, sou and
Speaker 2: you're obviously savvy, savvy didn't doing that job. You would
Speaker 2: know who would respond and who wouldn't respond, So you
Speaker 2: can know who to do it for, who not to
Speaker 2: do it with?
Speaker 7: Right, there's you know what, there's certain kids and and
Speaker 7: and when you get to know your team, yeah, you
Speaker 7: know there's certain kids that you can push, there's some
Speaker 7: that you there's there's some that you need to challenge,
Speaker 7: there's some that you need to put your armor on
Speaker 7: their shoulder. But you got to figure out every player.
Speaker 7: What buttons do you push to get the most out
Speaker 7: of this kid?
Speaker 5: So what's your prediction for this week? Shoes had a
Speaker 5: wonderful season. They're going to be in a bowl game
Speaker 5: no matter matter what. What do you think is going
Speaker 5: to happen? How do you think it's going to play out?
Speaker 5: This where the underdogs sometimes you know, can pull off
Speaker 5: a pretty good upset.
Speaker 7: Well, David, in the in the rivalry games I played in,
Speaker 7: I think.
Speaker 3: We were the underdogs every game.
Speaker 7: Right, And you know what, I'll tell you who I'm picking,
Speaker 7: and it's who I've picked the previous ten games. This
Speaker 7: year is Arizona.
Speaker 3: I always pick Arizona. What would you tell?
Speaker 2: You know, it's funny because we talk and I think
Speaker 2: you're you're great at what you do, and then how
Speaker 2: you say things. What would you tell this team, and
Speaker 2: I think a lot of things you've already said on
Speaker 2: the show to begin the show. No one's promised you anything,
Speaker 2: go out and get it.
Speaker 1: Well.
Speaker 7: I would tell them from first hand experience that you're
Speaker 7: going to put that helmet and those shoulder pads on
Speaker 7: and it'll be the last time you do it for
Speaker 7: most of those kids, at least most of those seniors
Speaker 7: in an organized manner. You know, my last game against ASU,
Speaker 7: I broke two ribs in the first quarter and I
Speaker 7: remember coming to the sidelines and like, it was very uncomfortable,
Speaker 7: and Dave, you'll remember our old trainer, Sue Hillmet's and
Speaker 7: I remember Sue came up to me. Sue came up
Speaker 7: and said.
Speaker 3: Like, do you want to finish?
Speaker 7: Do you want your last time in this uniform to
Speaker 7: be watching this game from the sidelines. And it didn't
Speaker 7: take much and I was like, you know what, let's
Speaker 7: go and I came back in and caught three or
Speaker 7: four more passes that night.
Speaker 3: You are crazy, You are crazy uncomfortable.
Speaker 7: Of course, you know what if if these kids, like
Speaker 7: we said, most of them are not going to go
Speaker 7: to the next level. So make the most of what
Speaker 7: you have and your opportunity and be reckless. They have
Speaker 7: nothing to lose.
Speaker 6: Why not be reckless?
Speaker 7: Why not take chances?
Speaker 3: Why not be crazy? No, you're right, And I see
Speaker 3: some trick play that.
Speaker 2: Well, I think is that one of the reasons why
Speaker 2: you beat them the way you beat them for three
Speaker 2: straight years and they just continue and continued on.
Speaker 3: You just played like there's nothing to lose.
Speaker 7: And you know what, and there really wasn't because those
Speaker 7: three seasons, like we had, we had Bowl eligible records,
Speaker 7: but we weren't going anywhere that was gonna be it,
Speaker 7: So why not let it rip?
Speaker 3: Yeah? I know you're right, You're right. Are you gonna
Speaker 3: be there? Oh yeah? Oh yeah.
Speaker 7: This is the this is the one you don't miss.
Speaker 7: This is the one you don't miss now.
Speaker 2: Unfortunately, I think it's going to be a big crowd
Speaker 2: from ASU. You know, they're buying a lot of tickets
Speaker 2: to come down to celebrate. Perfect time to win it.
Speaker 7: Well, you know, Steve, I heard your show earlier in
Speaker 7: the week and you were having a conversation about you know,
Speaker 7: we Arizona had a rough week, you know with basketball
Speaker 7: and and and with football and and uh like, what's
Speaker 7: more disappointing and and who's given up on the season.
Speaker 7: There's nothing to give up on. This game is so
Speaker 7: important like that, there should be no sad faces. There
Speaker 7: should be no uh like those kids should hit that
Speaker 7: grass tomorrow afternoon with every bit of energy and effort
Speaker 7: and enthusiasm that they have. There's nothing to feel sad about.
Speaker 3: Go win the game. Yeah, yeah, it's gonna be fun.
Speaker 3: Always is.
Speaker 2: It's always unpredictable, and that's why I'd liked Arizona. I mean,
Speaker 2: at least to cover to pay close. It's kind of
Speaker 2: its own little season. This one game where teams, you know,
Speaker 2: like you said, you never know what are they?
Speaker 3: They're nine and two? Can you can?
Speaker 2: We got we got little like a minute, give me
Speaker 2: a give me a coach Smith and you get to
Speaker 2: get ready to go out through the tunnel.
Speaker 3: What does he tell you in one of these games?
Speaker 7: You know, I'll tell you what there's There was a
Speaker 7: game and I can't remember who we were playing, but
Speaker 7: we were in the halftime locker room under the stadium
Speaker 7: and there was a little, tiny, skinny door that only
Speaker 7: one person could get out at a time to get
Speaker 7: back to the field.
Speaker 3: Oh, no, our way, And.
Speaker 7: He said, if you want to play in the second half.
Speaker 7: If you expect to get in this game, you got
Speaker 7: to get through me.
Speaker 6: And he was knocking the dog snot.
Speaker 7: Out of people right and left, and like you literally
Speaker 7: had to fight through Coach Smith to get back to
Speaker 7: the grass to have a chance to play. That was
Speaker 7: Larry Smith.
Speaker 6: Wow.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, well we need that again. Go go get
Speaker 2: Brendan and go do the speech for them because they
Speaker 2: need that.
Speaker 3: Little pep talk.
Speaker 7: Well, right on, you guys, bear down.
Speaker 3: Thanks, Perhaps you have fun tomorrow or Saturday. We'll see
Speaker 3: you soon. Thanks. Jay has always bear down. We got
Speaker 3: to call it. I don't wonder if it's Jay. Hello,
Speaker 3: you're on the air Hide of the Ball? Is this Jay?
Speaker 1: J You know this?
Speaker 3: Do you know the drill? Hold on? We got we
Speaker 3: were on Jay Domas. We have a more important Jay
Speaker 3: on the other.
Speaker 6: Right, Well, put me on hold and come back and wait.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you're asking too much. We're gonna keep you on
Speaker 2: because I don't want to lose you. We're gonna go
Speaker 2: to commercial.
Speaker 6: Okay, are you ready?
Speaker 3: Man?
Speaker 2: Hey, welcome back to I Have the Ball here on
Speaker 2: Fox Sports fourteen fifty. I'm Steve Rivera. In today with
Speaker 2: me is Dave silver. Now on the phone, we have
Speaker 2: Jay Gonzales. Jay, how are you?
Speaker 3: I'm good?
Speaker 1: How are you?
Speaker 7: Guys?
Speaker 3: We're surviving. I'm doing the board, so we're surviving.
Speaker 6: We're on.
Speaker 3: Are we on the air? You hear me?
Speaker 1: Now?
Speaker 6: Yeah, Steve, I got I got handed to you.
Speaker 7: Man. You picked up the skills in a very short
Speaker 7: period of time.
Speaker 2: Well, it's eighty percent of the skills. I'm missing a few.
Speaker 2: I'm a four two not a five two guy. Hey,
Speaker 2: before before we go with our picks, uh, you know,
Speaker 2: for for the rest of the weekend. What do you
Speaker 2: think about the game on Saturday.
Speaker 6: I don't feel very good about it, Steeve. You know,
Speaker 6: I know, if you know that's the rivalry, anything can happen.
Speaker 6: You know, worst Arizona teams have beat better as U
Speaker 6: teams than vice versa. But when you look at when
Speaker 6: you really look at the scores of Arizona's games this year,
Speaker 6: you know the big losses, you know, and you have
Speaker 6: a team that is hot at ASU. It's confident as
Speaker 6: ASU and as good as ASU. I don't see how
Speaker 6: Arizona has I mean, they've got a chance to beat
Speaker 6: them just because it's a rivalry game. But I don't
Speaker 6: feel very good about it. I you know, I don't
Speaker 6: see how they beat them.
Speaker 1: Now.
Speaker 6: You know what I'll be happy is, you know, as
Speaker 6: anybody else if they do. But I don't see how
Speaker 6: they do it. I just this team just is not
Speaker 6: You haven't seen anything that tells you that they can
Speaker 6: win this game.
Speaker 2: Right, right, We'll see what happens. It should be a
Speaker 2: pat crowd and not because of Arizona fans.
Speaker 6: I think it's going to be, right, Yeah, I've been
Speaker 6: forewarned about that, you know, you know, you know that
Speaker 6: I don't like the ASU fans. They've been you know,
Speaker 6: and Arizona fans aren't any better. They've been jerks. And
Speaker 6: I you know, I haven't been in to Sun Devil
Speaker 6: Stadium for a game in twenty years because a thirty
Speaker 6: year old guy wanted to fight my seventy year old
Speaker 6: dad over a you know, six inches on a seat
Speaker 6: and uh, you know, right in front of my son.
Speaker 6: And that's the last experience I've had with those guys.
Speaker 3: And I don't like them.
Speaker 6: I know they're going to be sitting with us, but.
Speaker 1: It is what it is.
Speaker 5: I remember going to the games as a media member too,
Speaker 5: just in the parking lot just getting out of my
Speaker 5: car and they recognized either our logo or our city
Speaker 5: or something. And you know, there was smack talk just
Speaker 5: to get into the into the stadium. It was sometimes
Speaker 5: kind of rough.
Speaker 6: No, that's a true that's a true story. Dare I mean,
Speaker 6: I'm sure you know that. Yeah, I mean that that happens.
Speaker 6: And and look, and like I said, neither neither fan
Speaker 6: base is any better than the others. You know, our
Speaker 6: fans do stuff to their fans and all that, but
Speaker 6: it's just you know, I don't do that to other
Speaker 6: fans and to have you know, that kind of stuff.
Speaker 6: That That was the second time my dad nearly got
Speaker 6: in a fight with a guy.
Speaker 7: And look, my dad will start fights, but he didn't
Speaker 7: start it.
Speaker 3: Seems like the clubsy nominator is your dad.
Speaker 6: Well I know, but there was one in ninety five,
Speaker 6: that ninety five game, remember where or Chie Jenkins was
Speaker 6: a freshman, And uh, there.
Speaker 7: Was that game again over the same thing.
Speaker 6: You know, the seats are tight there and the guy
Speaker 6: thought my dad was crowding him and he put his
Speaker 6: fists in my dad's face. I'm like, dude, he'll kill you.
Speaker 6: Just stop.
Speaker 7: Yeah, my dad would kill him.
Speaker 6: I mean, my dad's fits were like a bowling ball.
Speaker 7: Yeah, anyway, but that's old stuff.
Speaker 6: But I you know, I it's I think it's going
Speaker 6: to be a game that I think Arizona fans are
Speaker 6: going to be quiet pretty much the whole game. Yeah,
Speaker 6: I really do.
Speaker 3: Okay, So now we got something weird has to happen.
Speaker 2: We got eight minutes to go through some picks. Go
Speaker 2: ahead and recap because I know you want to.
Speaker 6: Yeah, well I had a perfect week last week. You
Speaker 6: forgot to do a lot half, but you're still a
Speaker 6: point a half ahead of me.
Speaker 3: It's a point in half. I thought two and a half.
Speaker 3: I thought two and a half.
Speaker 6: No, I think it's one and a half.
Speaker 3: Okay, either way, Well it's it's short.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 3: I'm back on you. I got you.
Speaker 7: So, but it is my second perfect week.
Speaker 6: You've only had one, So there's that.
Speaker 10: But it was.
Speaker 7: But you know, hey, what can I say?
Speaker 6: It was a It was a it was a good
Speaker 6: week for me. I don't have very many of those.
Speaker 3: Okay, So go ahead and pick you. You get the
Speaker 3: leader from now?
Speaker 6: All right, Well i'll start. You know, this is a
Speaker 6: game that I tend to stay away from all the
Speaker 6: time because I never get it right. But I'm gonna
Speaker 6: take it this this year because there's so many things
Speaker 6: going against Michigan and for Ohio State right now, and
Speaker 6: it's a huge spread for a rivalry game like that.
Speaker 6: But I just in Ohio State is that good? And
Speaker 6: I'm gonna give the twenty and a half to Michigan
Speaker 6: at Ohio State three touchdowns Saturday morning.
Speaker 3: Wow.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a wild thing. But I think you're gonna
Speaker 2: that's a good pick.
Speaker 3: Where is that game? Is that a Columbus that Ohio State? No,
Speaker 3: I think that's a good one. That's a good one.
Speaker 6: Ohio State's been waiting to beat these guys for years.
Speaker 6: If they get a chance to port on, they're going
Speaker 6: to We saw what they did last week the Indiana.
Speaker 6: You know, they could have taken a knee at the
Speaker 6: one yard line and they punched it in instead of
Speaker 6: just taking the knee. They're you know, they're they're they're
Speaker 6: not gonna take any chances. I think they're gonna lay it.
Speaker 6: They're gonna lay one on Michigan if in any way
Speaker 6: possibly can.
Speaker 3: Okay, So we got to breach through these things quickly.
Speaker 3: So you got that one.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna go with my NFC NFL stuff first, Dallas
Speaker 2: over the Giants. You know, Dallas at home. Giants are
Speaker 2: just horrible. Dallas is just not as horrible. So I'm
Speaker 2: taking Dallas, Okay, all right, my.
Speaker 6: Next college game. I know that Army got obliterated last week,
Speaker 6: and I knew they would against Notre Dame. But I
Speaker 6: think they're gonna be a little pissed off. And they
Speaker 6: got UTSA this week. They're only giving seven, So I'm
Speaker 6: gonna take Army. They're still really really good, particularly for
Speaker 6: you know, a mid level team like UTSA, and I
Speaker 6: think they're gonna blast them. I think they're gonna be
Speaker 6: a little pissed off about what happened to them last week.
Speaker 2: An ud Dame, Okay, I don't know who you're getting
Speaker 2: your picks, but you're doing well this year, which is
Speaker 2: a shocker.
Speaker 3: And I mean that sincerely.
Speaker 6: Okay, So I don't want to talk to me like that.
Speaker 3: He's he's in he's right in my sight, so he's
Speaker 3: looking at me.
Speaker 2: So okay, I'm gonna go with this team that's already
Speaker 2: messed with me too many times, but I'm gonna do
Speaker 2: it again because I don't know why the Chiefs, the
Speaker 2: Kansas City Chiefs. I thought they'd easily win last week
Speaker 2: and cover, but they barely. They're barely won. So I'm
Speaker 2: gonna go with the Chiefs again, this time wondering when
Speaker 2: they're going to show up to play.
Speaker 3: Well, who are they playing? I forgot.
Speaker 6: The Chiefs are playing.
Speaker 7: For me.
Speaker 3: They've got the Raiders. Yeah, and the Raiders just always fun.
Speaker 7: Okay, okay, right, okay, we we both got to pick Texas.
Speaker 6: Texas A and M that's are special, so we'll pick that. Left,
Speaker 6: I'll move to the NFL. I'm all all all over
Speaker 6: the Lions on the Bears minus nine and a half
Speaker 6: on Thursday morning. I can't wait to get back to
Speaker 6: the house after my son's Turkey Bowl game to get
Speaker 6: into that game.
Speaker 3: But the Lions are just so good.
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, that's a good one. We only had like
Speaker 2: three and a half minutes, four minutes. I'm gonna sleep
Speaker 2: with the NFL. Go with Tampa, Uh, Tampa the Bay
Speaker 2: I can't remember who they played, but I going with
Speaker 2: Tampa and that's gonna be my lock.
Speaker 6: Okay, all right, Oh, the Lions are my lock and
Speaker 6: playing Carolina.
Speaker 3: Okay, thank you.
Speaker 6: My other NFL game, I'm gonna wait till Monday night.
Speaker 6: The Broncos did did good for me last week. I'm
Speaker 6: going to take them again. Give him five and a
Speaker 6: half to the Browns in Denver.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's a good one too. It's a good one too. Okay.
Speaker 3: So now I'm gonna do do this one too.
Speaker 2: With with the Prime having lost, I think they're going
Speaker 2: to re return and when and with this one, I
Speaker 2: wanted to go with this with with the Lock, but
Speaker 2: I didn't.
Speaker 3: I went with Tampa.
Speaker 6: So Colorado, okay, all right, Just staying away from that
Speaker 6: because I you know, if these guys feel like they
Speaker 6: got nothing to play for, you know, if they you know,
Speaker 6: because everybody's saying that they're out of the out of
Speaker 6: the playoffs. I just wonder about attitudes on that team.
Speaker 6: So yeah, I'm staying away from that day. My last
Speaker 6: kick taking Texas, Texas A and M and I gotta
Speaker 6: take the Longhorns because I've been on their bandwide in
Speaker 6: all year. I'll be upset with myself if I don't
Speaker 6: take them and then they cover. So I'm gonna take Texas,
Speaker 6: take giving the five and a half to Texas.
Speaker 1: A and M.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I went with the same way. I wanted to
Speaker 2: go with A and M because it's at home, but
Speaker 2: Texas can't afford to lose this game, so I'm gonna
Speaker 2: go with Texas as well. All right, Okay, okay, we
Speaker 2: have some time. No, we'll get those picks. You'll post
Speaker 2: them this time right in.
Speaker 6: The rest, so I will post them this time around chair.
Speaker 2: Okay, so we've got about two and a half minutes.
Speaker 2: Let's go do basketball real quick. What do you think
Speaker 2: is going on with that basketball team.
Speaker 6: I think they're figuring themselves out. I think it's a
Speaker 6: situation where again, you know, Tommy has done such a
Speaker 6: good job of melding his team when it has a
Speaker 6: lot of turnover. Each team he's had has had a
Speaker 6: bunch of turnover. He's done such a good job of
Speaker 6: putting that together, and it's not fitting as easily right now,
Speaker 6: you know, And so I think previously, you know, he
Speaker 6: hasn't played very much. A lot, you know, he's got
Speaker 6: there's a lot of things that he's got to catch
Speaker 6: up on. I think, Caleb but still just finding himself
Speaker 6: trying to maybe trying to take on too much and
Speaker 6: maybe they need to simplify things for him as well.
Speaker 6: I just think it's you shouldn't be any more any
Speaker 6: more worked up about them than Duke is about itself. Right,
Speaker 6: they've lost, you know, they've lost a couple of games,
Speaker 6: so it just relaxed.
Speaker 3: It's November.
Speaker 6: They've lost too. It's not like they lost to old
Speaker 6: dominion or anything.
Speaker 7: I mean, they're fine, just kid, they just got to
Speaker 7: take some time to get let's see.
Speaker 6: You know, look, if they don't go lose three in
Speaker 6: the Bahamas, they do better than Sean Miller did.
Speaker 3: That's right.
Speaker 5: DeAndre Aten season right, and that's what we always measure
Speaker 5: stuff against, you know, uh, least they didn't do what
Speaker 5: Sean Miller did.
Speaker 2: Yeah, No, I Caleb's the Caleb situation is a little
Speaker 2: bizarre because he needs to play better. We all know that.
Speaker 3: Crevious.
Speaker 2: I agree with you because I think I do think
Speaker 2: that Tom is going to mix up the lineup tonight
Speaker 2: to kind of reflect what he may be kind of
Speaker 2: threatened last week. Uh, it was kind of an eye
Speaker 2: opener for him and for everybody else that things probably
Speaker 2: need to change.
Speaker 6: He's got good players, Steve. I mean, he's got good
Speaker 6: players that that trio on the outside with with with
Speaker 6: Caleb and and Uh and uh and kJ Lewis and
Speaker 6: and uh.
Speaker 1: And JA.
Speaker 6: That's a really good back hoard, you know.
Speaker 7: I think, I you know, I'm starting to think maybe tray.
Speaker 6: Townson isn't what we thought he was going to be,
Speaker 6: and they maybe need to move some guys around. I'd
Speaker 6: like to see more of Carter Bryant. So let let's
Speaker 6: see what happened.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I was gonna say that too. He looked he
Speaker 5: hit a couple of big shots the other night.
Speaker 3: Right, him and Waka.
Speaker 2: I think you know Oaka am I moving to the
Speaker 2: spot where Creevis was and let Henry play a little
Speaker 2: bit more too.
Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, And they certainly seemed more physical when a
Speaker 6: Waka was in there, but they were more physical against two. Right,
Speaker 6: So let's see what happens.
Speaker 7: Okay, I think I think, I think they're fine.
Speaker 2: Okay, we gotta go. Thanks, Jay, have a great Thanksgiving you,
Speaker 2: thank you, thank you. We got to go, everybody, Thanks,
Speaker 2: thanks for listening. Was here next week and uh good
Speaker 2: luck for the weekend.