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<v Speaker 1>This is Ie on the Ball with Steve Ravera on

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<v Speaker 1>Fox Sports fourteen fifty. Subscribe now to the podcast on

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<v Speaker 2>Hey, welcome back to the Ball here on Fox Sports

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<v Speaker 2>fourteen fifty. I'm Steve Rivera and today is Dave Silver,

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<v Speaker 2>a special guest George Ferrante from the sixte upon Swan

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<v Speaker 2>and Sunrise. Hey, if you guys want to call, you

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<v Speaker 2>have some time to call you, guys, call in five

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<v Speaker 2>to zero, four, one, six, seventy four, forty would love

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<v Speaker 2>to hear from you. Who's gonna win this weekend's game.

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<v Speaker 2>I think now that people are kind of seeing the teams,

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<v Speaker 2>they kind of be realistic of what's gonna happen. Eight

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<v Speaker 2>and a half points. I think it would take crazily.

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<v Speaker 2>It would make you take that only because only because

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<v Speaker 2>the underdog always plays well. That's the only reason why.

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<v Speaker 2>And it's at home, That's the only reason. I don't

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<v Speaker 2>know if they're a better team. All I know is

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<v Speaker 2>four months ago you didn't think issue was a better team.

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<v Speaker 3>No, they were picked last in the Big twelve. How

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<v Speaker 3>does this happen? Yeah, how does this happen?

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<v Speaker 2>And there was one of the fourth, fifth, whatever, and

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<v Speaker 2>now they're going to finish fourteen, fifteenth, sixteen whatever is Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>when you will never if you say it would give

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<v Speaker 2>you one hundred and one that you're gonna do this,

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<v Speaker 2>you say, there's that's impossible, that's not gonna happen.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, they got to bring out their their big guns,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, bring out their stamina, and bring out their heart.

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<v Speaker 3>You know that that's it, the heart.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, what does this mean if this is that

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<v Speaker 2>important to you, I mean to everybody.

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<v Speaker 5>A lot of guys, this is the very last time

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<v Speaker 5>they'll ever play football organized football. So right, you know,

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<v Speaker 5>it's just kind of how the finality of it is.

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<v Speaker 5>We you know this is the last game, and you

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<v Speaker 5>know they always draw out those cliches about this.

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<v Speaker 3>Is our bowl game.

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<v Speaker 5>You know we're not going to play in December, but

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<v Speaker 5>this is going to be it for us.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, what's your what's your fondust memory? You've been around

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<v Speaker 2>some city three? You did TV then back then right games.

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<v Speaker 3>Or I mean what you mean in this rival just

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<v Speaker 3>the whole thing.

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<v Speaker 5>You did TV shows, did posting of the coaches shows. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 5>up through the Chuck Cecil season. So we did that game.

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<v Speaker 5>I did that game, so that has to be the biggest.

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<v Speaker 5>That was the highlight. Yeah, that was that was good.

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<v Speaker 3>You know. The night the year before was also big.

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<v Speaker 5>Was an eighty five up there and ASU had to

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<v Speaker 5>beat Arizona to go to the rose Ball for the

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<v Speaker 5>first time and they didn't. And that was Max and

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<v Speaker 5>Dejas kicking a couple huge long field goals to win

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<v Speaker 5>that game. I think it was like sixteen to thirteen

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<v Speaker 5>was a final score. But then the following year was

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<v Speaker 5>the Chuck Cecil game and then they were again they

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<v Speaker 5>were in the middle. From eighty two through ninety Arizona

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<v Speaker 5>won every game and then there was a tie mixt

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<v Speaker 5>in there as well.

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<v Speaker 3>Soame yah. I mean I was kind of part of

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<v Speaker 3>all that.

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<v Speaker 5>It didn't didn't didn't. It wasn't around for the eighty

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<v Speaker 5>two game. But like as we're going to talk to

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<v Speaker 5>Jay Dobbins, I remember that eighty three game.

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<v Speaker 3>That was like the first Wow, this is pretty cool.

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<v Speaker 3>I was watching it on TV at the station. Well,

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<v Speaker 3>we covered.

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<v Speaker 2>It because Frank Cush and Hill talk more about Frank

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<v Speaker 2>Kush kind of owned Arizona for a long time.

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<v Speaker 3>Long time. Yeah, yeah, I was going up here as

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<v Speaker 4>I always loved you know, Arizona was the team, the

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<v Speaker 4>home team, and and uh it's always a fun day

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<v Speaker 3>Are you part of the not Hill gang.

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<v Speaker 4>I didn't tall good too much all that type of stuff,

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<v Speaker 4>but you know I visited the frarities and some fraternities

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<v Speaker 3>Time, you know, how to live it up. It was

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<v Speaker 3>always a good time to be at the campus.

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<v Speaker 5>It was always something special too when you're the visiting.

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<v Speaker 5>Even media, like we would go to Sun Devil Stadium

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<v Speaker 5>and is walking through the parking lot was somewhat dangerous.

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<v Speaker 5>You just never knew who what was happening there. You

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<v Speaker 5>know what they realized we were from Tucson.

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<v Speaker 3>We heard about it.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, you know it was dangerous walking up that hill

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<v Speaker 4>B Yeah, espectually they you know, they've hosted some NFL

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<v Speaker 4>sure time at the SCU Stadium and those were some

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, to day Super Bowl the Dallas Pittsburgh. I was

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<v Speaker 5>there for that night.

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<v Speaker 2>Thirty six, right, that's the last time Arizona the Cowboys

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<v Speaker 2>were any goods. Sorry about that exactly, Sorry about that,

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<v Speaker 2>but it's true when you're growing.

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<v Speaker 4>Up in that childhood and you're on a sports team,

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<v Speaker 4>a baseball team, a football team, or other sports team.

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<v Speaker 4>I was on a golf team, right, it was always

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<v Speaker 4>a great thing to be there for the teammates and

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<v Speaker 4>be there for your city and ye hiding bring back

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<v Speaker 4>a win, you know.

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<v Speaker 3>Right right, we'll see if they can do that.

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<v Speaker 2>So I've been asking the guys the last two three days, guys,

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<v Speaker 2>and okay, so you're finishing. If you're four and seven

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<v Speaker 2>going into this game and you've had a kind of

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<v Speaker 2>a miserable year. A miserable may not be the right word,

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<v Speaker 2>but it's let's use that, and you beat the issue,

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<v Speaker 2>does it become okay at least? Or is it still

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<v Speaker 2>miserable and we just happened to beat a Issue? Well,

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<v Speaker 2>I mean they could say that we beat them. They

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<v Speaker 2>can say they beat them three years in a row,

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<v Speaker 2>if that, if that matters, you know, I mean, they

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<v Speaker 2>so they've you know, they've had there's no run here.

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<v Speaker 3>There's that.

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<v Speaker 5>I mean really since like twenty seventeen, that was kind

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<v Speaker 5>of a rough little stretch where Issue won like five

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<v Speaker 5>years in a row, four years in a row.

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<v Speaker 2>You remember that day five, It was with something something.

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<v Speaker 2>First Summon's first year, they had seventy seven games. They

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<v Speaker 2>were no, no, no, that was the last one. But

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<v Speaker 2>the first one I think someone had them pretty easily,

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<v Speaker 2>and then the issue came back and won.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, they lost.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, there's a little fine line between this enablement

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<v Speaker 4>and or just carrying on the regular social seasons, or

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<v Speaker 4>or really refining and regrouping and getting on or somebody

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<v Speaker 4>saying you, oh, you did a good job, boy, could

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<v Speaker 4>just keep coming back. Yeah, Well, some people just don't

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<v Speaker 4>want to hear that, especially if you're a you're really

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<v Speaker 4>going hold you don't want to hear just a good job.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 5>You know, again sometimes it's overstated by the coaches, but

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<v Speaker 5>when they do get to go to a bowl game,

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<v Speaker 5>you know they have that extra a couple of weeks of.

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<v Speaker 3>Practice that's gone.

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<v Speaker 5>You know, we want to see these guys again until

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<v Speaker 5>spring football now, so that's that's it, and who knows

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<v Speaker 5>who's he going to be here.

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<v Speaker 2>And that's when hope springs eternal again, and then you

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<v Speaker 2>have the hope that you're going to be better next year.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, because doesn't the portal open like pretty soon, like

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<v Speaker 5>mid December, the first first.

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<v Speaker 3>Version of it. And I'm sure you've paid attention.

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<v Speaker 2>They've lost a few good kids already because recruits right right,

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<v Speaker 2>the one just jumped to Florida.

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<v Speaker 3>State of Florida, I can't remember. Yeah, so you know,

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<v Speaker 3>and the kids notice, they notice, and by the same

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<v Speaker 5>It's going to get the coaches, you know, after Saturday

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<v Speaker 5>they can start recruiting again. I guess I'm not sure

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<v Speaker 5>about some of the windows and stuff, but that's you know,

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<v Speaker 5>they're not going to be restricted.

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<v Speaker 2>George, I think I asked you this off the air.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, he'll be a restaurant, a successful restaurant. You

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<v Speaker 2>haven't been bothered by people calling about, hey, you have

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<v Speaker 4>We donate through various charities throughout the area, and most

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<v Speaker 3>Larger charities, so they donate through their subsidiary, right, Okay,

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<v Speaker 3>I would believe. So yeah, and you get to and

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<v Speaker 3>you had tickets to know that, So that's kind of

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<v Speaker 4>We definitely love to give gifts this out for the

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<v Speaker 4>holidays and for families in need, like we're supporting one

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<v Speaker 4>of the Turkey Thons today through our friend Acroles.

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<v Speaker 3>And so we definitely like to do our part.

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<v Speaker 4>And yeah, but there is there's no free lunch, and

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<v Speaker 4>I don't know it's it's it can be challenging to

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<v Speaker 3>That everybody gets funded, you know, right, and we keep

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<v Speaker 3>our own funded sure.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, No, no, And that's that's the world we live in,

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<v Speaker 2>right and now, Nil, I'm not sure where you they live.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't don't even say Dave would kind of live

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<v Speaker 2>in the same area, but not. And these kids are

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<v Speaker 2>making twice, three, four or five times when we make nothing.

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<v Speaker 2>It's unfair or fair whatever. But who would have thought that?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, we know my dad played in the Tucson Open

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<v Speaker 3>That's a professional tournament, right, I.

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<v Speaker 5>Know those are the persons in those You is not

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<v Speaker 5>what we're used to saying. I think Arnie and Jack

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<v Speaker 5>Nicholas and Tiger Woods for TV get back.

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<v Speaker 4>Onto like if the season is a good season or

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<v Speaker 4>a slum season here and there.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, I was talking with a friend of mine.

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<v Speaker 4>He has this kid and pop born football, and they

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<v Speaker 4>took they won their championships, and then they went to

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<v Speaker 4>the state thing and they lost the state you know,

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<v Speaker 4>but they moved on to some other big championship.

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<v Speaker 3>It was the next They had to practice and get there.

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<v Speaker 4>Just because they lost one game, you know, it doesn't

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<v Speaker 4>mean that they can get down and lose focus. You know,

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<v Speaker 4>the kids got a big blond career to stand behind,

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<v Speaker 4>and he's just going to practice. He said, well, he

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<v Speaker 4>got you this far to get you here, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>and you did great to get here, so let's just

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<v Speaker 6>You know.

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<v Speaker 3>That would be my advice for anything, right, for anything.

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<v Speaker 2>Now these now these guys have to understand that's what

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<v Speaker 2>it's about, playing hard. And to me, that's been one

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<v Speaker 2>of the issues all year. And maybe I haven't seen

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<v Speaker 2>it correctly or whatever, but you just have and played

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<v Speaker 5>And you know, again, you've had a quarterback coming back

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<v Speaker 5>after a great season, a great receiver, a defensive back.

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<v Speaker 5>Isn't he projected to be to Carrio Davis a number.

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<v Speaker 3>In the first round? Do we see this?

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<v Speaker 5>he's I don't know, he's had both good and bad.

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<v Speaker 5>Right this season, it seems like he's had a couple

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<v Speaker 1>Right?

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<v Speaker 3>So, I don't know, they seem to have a few players,

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<v Speaker 3>and again the injuries mounted, and.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and maybe it's one of those years where the

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<v Speaker 2>gods just say you can't have everything, especially two years

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, stepping into new stadiums, new opponents, new just environments

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<v Speaker 5>of playing football that just maybe they just weren't used

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<v Speaker 5>to them. Now they're you know, they at least had

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<v Speaker 5>that one chance this year, and we'll see how things

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<v Speaker 5>go next year.

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<v Speaker 2>I joked about this earlier because I was on the

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<v Speaker 2>how do they feel about going into the Big twelve?

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<v Speaker 2>But it says, I think they're petitioning to get back

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<v Speaker 2>in the Western Athletic Conference.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, they hand can they go backwards? Because because these side?

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<v Speaker 3>Can they join the pack two and maybe make it three?

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<v Speaker 7>Right?

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<v Speaker 3>And we joke, of course, but you know, it's been

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<v Speaker 3>a tough year. It just has now. Look at basketball,

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, we haven't got a basketball it's gonna be people

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<v Speaker 2>in this town for basketball haven't have not been used

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<v Speaker 2>to losing, like like they might have to be get.

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<v Speaker 3>Used to losing. They lose to Duke and then Kansas

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<v Speaker 3>smokes him last night, or you know, beats beats Duke. No,

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<v Speaker 3>it's gonna be crazy because Duke is pretty darn good.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, obviously Kansas is too.

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<v Speaker 2>And then you talked about Gonzaga losing a couple of

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<v Speaker 2>hours ago or an hour ago. Uh, it's gonna be

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<v Speaker 2>a crazy year, crazy year.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I got on the about halftime in Virginia. West

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<v Speaker 4>Virginia was down about ten points, right, I just turned

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but another Big twelve team, Yukon. Yukon's lost too straight, right,

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<v Speaker 2>so we'll see what happens. It's gonna be a fun year.

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<v Speaker 3>And as in Iowa State is also playing really well.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah already.

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<v Speaker 5>You know, we talked about the Big twelve, but already

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<v Speaker 5>they're showing their their true colors here in the first

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<v Speaker 3>Right, No, it's gonna be fun. It's only November.

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<v Speaker 2>That's why I say people who follow Arizona are used

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<v Speaker 2>to winning, especially in November. We need to kind of temper,

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<v Speaker 2>that temper that because it's gonna be a long year.

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<v Speaker 2>They're gonna win games they shouldn't win. They're gonna lose

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<v Speaker 2>games they shouldn't lose. But it all matters when March

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<v Speaker 2>in March. In March, that's when your business goes up.

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<v Speaker 2>People go watch the games that your place.

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<v Speaker 3>And March is our business month. A yeah, because of hoops, snowbirds,

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<v Speaker 3>snowbirds and hoops. Yeah, it's it's a fun. It's just

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<v Speaker 3>a good time to be in the desert. Tell everybody

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<v Speaker 3>where you guys are located exactly.

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<v Speaker 4>Rats wanted Sunrise right across the street from the new

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<v Speaker 2>So you're on the north northeast side, northeast side, and

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<v Speaker 4>We've been there for thirteen years. It's a continuation of

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<v Speaker 4>our previous location, which was a Plaza Palamino La Cafe

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<v Speaker 4>in nineteen eighty eight. We've got our cooks for over

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<v Speaker 4>thirty five years with us now still.

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<v Speaker 2>I remember taking George Ravelin, who back then we were

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<v Speaker 2>the chili ariennos, he loved those things.

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<v Speaker 3>This message brought you by by George. What do you

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<v Speaker 3>know job? Yeah, George, thanks for joining us. We're gonna

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<v Speaker 3>take our break. Thank you so much for having me.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, we'll be going by. I went today and

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<v Speaker 2>I had to have the well, the shrimp cocktail.

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<v Speaker 3>Remember oh yeah, we got that when I was there.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah yeah, so I said, I got to go back.

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<v Speaker 3>I feel like some troops. Good bye. Great to see

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<v Speaker 3>you as well.

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<v Speaker 6>Dan.

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<v Speaker 3>Thank you, Dave. That's told I would to do. It's

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<v Speaker 3>We gotta go. Thanks Thanks again, George. Thank you.

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<v Speaker 2>Hey, welcome back to my I on the Ball here

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<v Speaker 2>on Fox Sports fourteen fifty. I'm Steve Rivera. You're Jay Dobbins.

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<v Speaker 2>Jay Dobbins.

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<v Speaker 3>How are you. I'm hoping that this comes out.

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<v Speaker 7>Good to see you guys, good, Thanks for having me on.

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<v Speaker 3>Sure sure.

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<v Speaker 2>We've been talking Remene about the good old days and

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<v Speaker 2>the ASU U u of a A series obviously, and

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<v Speaker 2>miss Smith and missus Smith.

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<v Speaker 3>She hated, She said her her husband hated hated losing

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<v Speaker 7>Well, you know the on the board in our locker room,

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<v Speaker 7>Coach Smith had his goals and the first goal was

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<v Speaker 7>beat asu That's that was it. That's and that's exactly

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<v Speaker 7>what these kids are facing. Tomorrow night or tomorrow afternoon.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, what do you remember? What are your memories of

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<v Speaker 5>that game? I remember seeing The first time I saw

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<v Speaker 5>the game was in eighty three. Were you the u

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<v Speaker 5>of A by then or were you still at arkas

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<v Speaker 7>I played in the eighty two I played in the

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<v Speaker 7>eighty two game where we stole the rose ball from him.

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<v Speaker 7>I played in the eighty three game where Max kicked

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<v Speaker 7>the last second field goal to win seventeen fifteen. And

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<v Speaker 7>I played in the eighty four game where we won

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<v Speaker 7>here in Tucson sixteen to ten.

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<v Speaker 2>Could you talk real quick about just the importance of

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<v Speaker 2>because you guys started a streak and that how cool

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<v Speaker 2>was that?

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<v Speaker 3>Because Dave said it was cool? Right you gives your

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<v Speaker 3>It was beginning that streak, right exactly.

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah, absolutely, you know, And what we faced was was

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<v Speaker 7>those probation teams, and so you know, no one's coming

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<v Speaker 7>to save you. Life is ten percent what happens to you,

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<v Speaker 7>in ninety percent what you choose to.

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<v Speaker 3>Do about it.

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<v Speaker 7>Most people don't care.

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<v Speaker 3>About your problems.

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<v Speaker 7>There are some that are even happy you have them,

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<v Speaker 7>you know, get up, fight back or be a victim.

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<v Speaker 7>Don't be soft, don't quit, play hard.

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<v Speaker 3>That that was our mentality.

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<v Speaker 2>And you guys were the perfect group for that because

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<v Speaker 2>you guys were that. You guys were painting the asses.

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<v Speaker 2>Tough dudes. Just you know, this is not gonna happen.

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<v Speaker 2>So when you were getting beat as a group in

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<v Speaker 2>that streak, what were you thinking, we can pull this off.

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<v Speaker 3>We just have to do what.

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<v Speaker 7>You know what, I'll tell you what and know one

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<v Speaker 7>that I was coming on, I made this short list

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<v Speaker 7>of NFL players that were on those teams. This is

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<v Speaker 7>who we had on our roster, and I'll probably leave

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<v Speaker 7>out a few. Brad Anderson, Jeff Keywell, Chris brew Or,

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<v Speaker 3>Those are just some.

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<v Speaker 7>Names that popped in my head. Those winners win, yeah,

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<v Speaker 7>and those guys were gonna win football games.

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<v Speaker 5>And it's amazing too because they've had great careers after

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<v Speaker 5>football too, that. You know, I'm sure a lot of

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<v Speaker 5>that kind of started, you know, with Larry and with

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<v Speaker 5>coach Roganan. We talked about before, you know, some of

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<v Speaker 5>the leadership that they were around as kids and you

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<v Speaker 5>were around. What was it like, you know, to be

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<v Speaker 5>coached by that that generation of coaches who were you know,

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<v Speaker 5>kind of old school I would assume, coming out of

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<v Speaker 5>the Beauchembeckler School and things like that. What was that like.

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<v Speaker 7>Really old school? Dave?

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<v Speaker 3>And you know, I'll tell you what.

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<v Speaker 7>The thing I remember about those coaches is enthusiasm is contagious.

427
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<v Speaker 2>You know.

428
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<v Speaker 7>They were always saying, if you want something you never had,

429
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<v Speaker 7>you're gonna have to go do things you've never done.

430
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<v Speaker 7>If you want people to remember your name, you have

431
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<v Speaker 7>to do something they can't forget.

432
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<v Speaker 3>And this is the game to do it in. Yeah,

433
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<v Speaker 3>you're right, You're right.

434
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<v Speaker 2>I want to go back to when you were a

435
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<v Speaker 2>kid growing up in the seventies here, what did you

436
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<v Speaker 2>think of the rivalry or the game?

437
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<v Speaker 3>You know what, I loved it.

438
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<v Speaker 7>I was a big Scott Piper fan when I was

439
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<v Speaker 7>a kid. You know, he was the kind of the

440
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<v Speaker 7>second fiddle to t Bell as a receiver and I

441
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<v Speaker 7>always loved Scottie Piper. He played, always played great in

442
00:19:38.880 --> 00:19:42.240
<v Speaker 7>those games. I remember JJ, I remember John Jefferson making

443
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<v Speaker 7>that one handed layout catch in the N zone for ASU.

444
00:19:47.279 --> 00:19:49.079
<v Speaker 7>So yeah, I remember those guys. I write this, I

445
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<v Speaker 7>would take this.

446
00:19:49.920 --> 00:19:51.000
<v Speaker 3>This was when you were a kid.

447
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<v Speaker 7>Little kids could actually get on the sun Trend and

448
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<v Speaker 7>ride down to campus and get in the not hole

449
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<v Speaker 7>and not have to worry about being in trouble or

450
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<v Speaker 7>get and someone attacking you. And that was old school.

451
00:20:05.079 --> 00:20:06.000
<v Speaker 7>That was back in the day.

452
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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, a lot of close games, a lot of weird games,

453
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<v Speaker 5>you know, games unpredictable. That seems to kind of be

454
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<v Speaker 5>the story, you know, even today, of this entire series

455
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<v Speaker 5>through the years. I'm just looking at some of the games,

456
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<v Speaker 5>like even what you mentioned know seventeen, fifteen, sixteen, ten,

457
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<v Speaker 5>sixteen thirteen. I mean that's low scoring, tight defensive battles,

458
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<v Speaker 5>and those are those are.

459
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<v Speaker 7>The funnest games to play in, where like what you

460
00:20:32.920 --> 00:20:36.240
<v Speaker 7>do matters every play, and you know, like going back

461
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<v Speaker 7>reminiscing to some of those old school rivalry games. Coach

462
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<v Speaker 7>Smith was on Coach Young's staff playing against those Frank.

463
00:20:45.079 --> 00:20:46.480
<v Speaker 3>Kush teams, and that's.

464
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<v Speaker 7>Where he learned and built that hatred for the rival.

465
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<v Speaker 3>So let me ask you.

466
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<v Speaker 2>Everyone talks and now I posed this today earlier, they're

467
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<v Speaker 2>four and seven. It's a mediocre, a miserable type of

468
00:20:58.319 --> 00:21:01.359
<v Speaker 2>season because of what the expectations. Where you win this game,

469
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<v Speaker 2>does it make it less miserable?

470
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<v Speaker 3>One?

471
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<v Speaker 2>And then Dave says, well, it's bragging rights. How many

472
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<v Speaker 2>times did you get to use those bragging rights if

473
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<v Speaker 2>you just win the game?

474
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<v Speaker 6>Yeah?

475
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<v Speaker 7>Right on, I'm using them right now. I played in

476
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<v Speaker 7>three rivalry games and won.

477
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<v Speaker 3>All three of them.

478
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<v Speaker 5>Okay, and again there were no bowl games, as you

479
00:21:20.000 --> 00:21:21.839
<v Speaker 5>mentioned the probation, so I mean they went to a

480
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<v Speaker 5>bowl game the next year at eighty five. But you're right,

481
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<v Speaker 5>I mean that was it. You guys are finished, and

482
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<v Speaker 5>that was kind of how the season ended. So it

483
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<v Speaker 5>had to be kind of a cool way to wrap

484
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<v Speaker 5>it up.

485
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<v Speaker 2>Well, if you went to Phoenix and did people recognize

486
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<v Speaker 2>you or did you tuck a lot.

487
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<v Speaker 3>Of crap up there?

488
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<v Speaker 7>You know what, like when you win and if you've

489
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<v Speaker 7>got your school colors on, you don't have to talk crap.

490
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<v Speaker 3>They know that's true.

491
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<v Speaker 7>They know you don't have to say a word. You

492
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<v Speaker 7>can just look at them and give them a wink.

493
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<v Speaker 3>That's true. And who's going to mess with you anyway?

494
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<v Speaker 1>Right?

495
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<v Speaker 7>Well, you know, you just you learn so much and

496
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<v Speaker 7>you learn, like we said earlier in this conversation, like

497
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<v Speaker 7>like life's not fair. Yeah, and if you're looking at

498
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<v Speaker 7>for it to be fair, you know what fair is

499
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<v Speaker 7>where you go to eat cotton candy and ride carnival rives.

500
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<v Speaker 7>No one feels sorry for you. There's no time for that.

501
00:22:15.000 --> 00:22:17.599
<v Speaker 7>These kids got to suck it up and play the

502
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<v Speaker 7>hardest game they played all year. There's nothing to save

503
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<v Speaker 7>it for.

504
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<v Speaker 2>Right, So when you look at the season and you

505
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<v Speaker 2>I'm sure you've been to a game or two, what

506
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<v Speaker 2>do you see?

507
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<v Speaker 3>What do you see?

508
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<v Speaker 2>Because you know, I'm going to show with Byron Evans

509
00:22:30.599 --> 00:22:32.200
<v Speaker 2>and David Adams and I've seen What do you go

510
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<v Speaker 2>watch when you go to a game?

511
00:22:34.359 --> 00:22:36.839
<v Speaker 3>Do you see certain things or look for certain things?

512
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<v Speaker 11>Well?

513
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<v Speaker 6>You know what I like?

514
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<v Speaker 7>I love watching the receiver play. And you know it's

515
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<v Speaker 7>it's been really a privilege for us as fans here

516
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<v Speaker 7>in town to watch t MAC over the last few years.

517
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<v Speaker 7>No one has ever done it on this campus as

518
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<v Speaker 7>well as that kid has played his position.

519
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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but you know, before the year started, and I

520
00:23:03.640 --> 00:23:05.279
<v Speaker 2>think we may have had you on the show before.

521
00:23:05.720 --> 00:23:07.279
<v Speaker 2>I said, at the end of the day, this is

522
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<v Speaker 2>in August, And I said, and I've been here thirty

523
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<v Speaker 2>seven years.

524
00:23:10.079 --> 00:23:12.559
<v Speaker 3>I didn't cover football all the time. I covered basketball.

525
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<v Speaker 2>I said, but the end of the day, end of

526
00:23:14.119 --> 00:23:16.440
<v Speaker 2>the year, the team Mac will be the best player

527
00:23:16.519 --> 00:23:19.680
<v Speaker 2>to ever have played here. At you of a I

528
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<v Speaker 2>kind of can't maybe maybe have to walk that back only.

529
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<v Speaker 3>Because of the circumstances, but I totally agree with you. Well,

530
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<v Speaker 3>you know what, the.

531
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<v Speaker 7>Kid's going to be playing on Sundays pretty soon, and

532
00:23:31.559 --> 00:23:36.200
<v Speaker 7>we're going to be as Arizona fans and as people

533
00:23:36.319 --> 00:23:38.519
<v Speaker 7>that you know, residents of Tucson, we're gonna be able

534
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<v Speaker 7>to remember when that kid played for us.

535
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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, he's pretty special obviously, even even when he doesn't

536
00:23:45.720 --> 00:23:47.680
<v Speaker 5>make the catcher when he's out of bounds, he's making

537
00:23:48.039 --> 00:23:50.960
<v Speaker 5>spectacular plays. What about that position, you know, I mean,

538
00:23:52.039 --> 00:23:56.519
<v Speaker 5>those guys are so athletic and so creative, and it's

539
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<v Speaker 5>almost I always talk about, well you just throw it

540
00:23:58.480 --> 00:23:59.759
<v Speaker 5>up there and see if they can go get it.

541
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<v Speaker 3>Has that changed over the years when from.

542
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<v Speaker 7>When you when you played, you know, I'll tell you

543
00:24:04.839 --> 00:24:09.880
<v Speaker 7>what changed. I'll tell you what changed is those receiver gloves. Oh, Like,

544
00:24:10.119 --> 00:24:12.880
<v Speaker 7>no one wore gloves when I was playing. Everybody played

545
00:24:12.920 --> 00:24:17.000
<v Speaker 7>bare handed. And those receiver gloves, man, those are game changers.

546
00:24:18.319 --> 00:24:21.240
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, well, who's the blitnik cuff? Who was the sticky

547
00:24:21.640 --> 00:24:24.319
<v Speaker 3>the glue? Yeah, just sticky? And you you were not

548
00:24:24.440 --> 00:24:26.119
<v Speaker 3>that guy. You were the possession guy, weren't you.

549
00:24:27.920 --> 00:24:28.119
<v Speaker 7>Yeah?

550
00:24:28.160 --> 00:24:28.839
<v Speaker 1>That was you know what.

551
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<v Speaker 7>I had a role to play. I knew what my

552
00:24:32.160 --> 00:24:36.000
<v Speaker 7>job for my team was. That they weren't going to

553
00:24:36.039 --> 00:24:37.759
<v Speaker 7>throw the ball over the top to me. I wasn't

554
00:24:37.799 --> 00:24:40.000
<v Speaker 7>going to catch the ball over my shoulders and run

555
00:24:40.079 --> 00:24:41.680
<v Speaker 7>into the end zone and kiss the cheerleaders.

556
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<v Speaker 1>Man.

557
00:24:41.880 --> 00:24:43.680
<v Speaker 7>I was going to like run an out cut on

558
00:24:43.799 --> 00:24:45.519
<v Speaker 7>third down and get the crap knocked out of me.

559
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<v Speaker 3>And I loved it. You know what, Jay, that's the issue.

560
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<v Speaker 3>I mean, Callan played it really well. Last year.

561
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<v Speaker 2>He was the second guy, third guy or whatever. This

562
00:24:54.480 --> 00:24:56.200
<v Speaker 2>year they didn't have a second or third guy.

563
00:24:56.640 --> 00:24:59.240
<v Speaker 3>You think, well, you know, you look at.

564
00:24:59.160 --> 00:25:03.720
<v Speaker 7>The criticisms that the offense has received and Noah's received.

565
00:25:04.359 --> 00:25:08.519
<v Speaker 7>He had t Mac, which is a first rounder playing

566
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<v Speaker 7>with them.

567
00:25:08.960 --> 00:25:09.359
<v Speaker 3>Last year.

568
00:25:09.759 --> 00:25:13.680
<v Speaker 7>He had Jacob Cowing, who's an NFL receiver, and he

569
00:25:13.839 --> 00:25:16.440
<v Speaker 7>had Tanner McLaughlin, who's I think I'm the I'm the

570
00:25:16.480 --> 00:25:21.079
<v Speaker 7>Bengals roster. He had three NFL caliber receivers to throw to.

571
00:25:21.799 --> 00:25:23.279
<v Speaker 7>That's that makes a difference.

572
00:25:23.519 --> 00:25:25.839
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, he had a running back to was Michael Wiley.

573
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<v Speaker 5>I mean a lot of a lot of weapons, Joel Colemans. Yeah,

574
00:25:29.079 --> 00:25:30.839
<v Speaker 5>so yeah, things definitely changed a.

575
00:25:30.839 --> 00:25:33.039
<v Speaker 7>Lot of weapons. But you know what, you know what

576
00:25:33.200 --> 00:25:35.480
<v Speaker 7>that sports and people are going to come and they're

577
00:25:35.480 --> 00:25:37.839
<v Speaker 7>going to go. And when you put your work in,

578
00:25:38.240 --> 00:25:42.160
<v Speaker 7>when the opportunity comes, winners close on that opportunity and

579
00:25:42.240 --> 00:25:45.119
<v Speaker 7>take advantage of it because if you don't, the next.

580
00:25:45.000 --> 00:25:47.440
<v Speaker 3>Guy is going to Yeah, no question.

581
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<v Speaker 2>In fact, in being on the show, had a lot

582
00:25:49.640 --> 00:25:52.279
<v Speaker 2>of the X guys come on and they've used the

583
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<v Speaker 2>word disappointment. I mean they don't even hesitate because of

584
00:25:55.559 --> 00:25:58.000
<v Speaker 2>the year that they've seen with their team.

585
00:25:58.440 --> 00:25:59.400
<v Speaker 3>How do you feel about it?

586
00:26:00.880 --> 00:26:03.279
<v Speaker 7>Well, you know how you fix that disappointment. You win

587
00:26:03.680 --> 00:26:06.559
<v Speaker 7>your last game, you beat your rival, You start that

588
00:26:06.799 --> 00:26:10.480
<v Speaker 7>enthusiasm going into your off season, going into your next year.

589
00:26:11.200 --> 00:26:15.839
<v Speaker 7>That's beating as U fix is a whole lot of problems.

590
00:26:16.200 --> 00:26:18.960
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Yeah, we talked about coaching, at least I do

591
00:26:19.119 --> 00:26:21.960
<v Speaker 2>on the show. Jay, I know you coached, you know,

592
00:26:22.440 --> 00:26:23.960
<v Speaker 2>as an assistant and as a head coach.

593
00:26:24.440 --> 00:26:25.319
<v Speaker 3>How were you?

594
00:26:26.079 --> 00:26:29.599
<v Speaker 2>And I say that, and then I say this about Brennan,

595
00:26:30.039 --> 00:26:34.079
<v Speaker 2>very nonchalant, if that's the right word, very straightforward, doesn't

596
00:26:34.160 --> 00:26:35.960
<v Speaker 2>really get angry or yell, you.

597
00:26:35.960 --> 00:26:37.160
<v Speaker 3>Know, collapse and all that stuff.

598
00:26:37.160 --> 00:26:38.839
<v Speaker 2>And I'm not saying that's the bad not a bad way,

599
00:26:39.160 --> 00:26:41.720
<v Speaker 2>but but to me, you kind of wish that he

600
00:26:41.839 --> 00:26:44.200
<v Speaker 2>was more fiery and that the kids would play harder

601
00:26:44.240 --> 00:26:46.319
<v Speaker 2>for him. That's just my view and maybe a few

602
00:26:46.359 --> 00:26:49.799
<v Speaker 2>other people. How would you be? And and does that matter?

603
00:26:50.079 --> 00:26:52.440
<v Speaker 2>I mean to me, coaching matters, but the style of

604
00:26:52.559 --> 00:26:53.559
<v Speaker 2>coach does that matter?

605
00:26:55.160 --> 00:26:58.279
<v Speaker 7>I think it matters. And I think teams and businesses

606
00:26:58.640 --> 00:27:01.960
<v Speaker 7>and families follow the personality of their leader. Yes, Like

607
00:27:02.200 --> 00:27:05.880
<v Speaker 7>when I was coaching, like I was super emotional and

608
00:27:06.039 --> 00:27:09.240
<v Speaker 7>I played emotional. I played reckless.

609
00:27:09.480 --> 00:27:11.359
<v Speaker 3>I coached reckless.

610
00:27:11.480 --> 00:27:14.519
<v Speaker 7>Too much at sometimes in hindsight, too much at sometimes.

611
00:27:14.759 --> 00:27:17.160
<v Speaker 7>But what I wanted to do for my kids when

612
00:27:17.200 --> 00:27:18.279
<v Speaker 7>I was coaching is.

613
00:27:18.359 --> 00:27:19.680
<v Speaker 3>I wanted to show them.

614
00:27:19.920 --> 00:27:25.319
<v Speaker 7>I wanted to be a first person demonstration that enthusiasm effort,

615
00:27:25.559 --> 00:27:30.119
<v Speaker 7>energy and attitude that'll take you through. Those are non negotiable.

616
00:27:31.400 --> 00:27:34.039
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, yeah, yeah, And then you know Brent kind of

617
00:27:34.079 --> 00:27:36.160
<v Speaker 5>has that facade. He's kind of calm and you know,

618
00:27:36.200 --> 00:27:39.599
<v Speaker 5>pretty looks like he's a quiet guy. And maybe it works,

619
00:27:39.680 --> 00:27:42.079
<v Speaker 5>maybe it doesn't work. It's it's obviously too early to

620
00:27:42.160 --> 00:27:43.960
<v Speaker 5>tell here at Arizona how it's going to play out.

621
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<v Speaker 5>But you know, you look at the dick tomis and

622
00:27:45.839 --> 00:27:49.279
<v Speaker 5>you look at you know, Larry was pretty was Larry Loud.

623
00:27:49.319 --> 00:27:50.119
<v Speaker 5>I don't think he was.

624
00:27:50.400 --> 00:27:52.960
<v Speaker 3>He was emotional after the games.

625
00:27:52.720 --> 00:27:57.279
<v Speaker 7>I know, but was he Larry was? Was was very

626
00:27:57.359 --> 00:28:01.720
<v Speaker 7>emotional and and Larry wasn't demnstrat is on the sidelines,

627
00:28:02.000 --> 00:28:06.880
<v Speaker 7>but in private, he like he was merciless in private

628
00:28:07.160 --> 00:28:09.759
<v Speaker 7>and if you had it coming, like you were going

629
00:28:09.839 --> 00:28:12.880
<v Speaker 7>to get it, but like he would jump you and

630
00:28:13.079 --> 00:28:16.519
<v Speaker 7>and and and he would make you pay. But he

631
00:28:16.720 --> 00:28:19.240
<v Speaker 7>was also the first guy to praise you when you

632
00:28:19.400 --> 00:28:22.079
<v Speaker 7>did something right. It wasn't a one way street.

633
00:28:23.200 --> 00:28:25.920
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, well you're talking them about your style, sou and

634
00:28:26.039 --> 00:28:29.599
<v Speaker 2>you're obviously savvy, savvy didn't doing that job. You would

635
00:28:29.720 --> 00:28:31.920
<v Speaker 2>know who would respond and who wouldn't respond, So you

636
00:28:32.000 --> 00:28:34.160
<v Speaker 2>can know who to do it for, who not to

637
00:28:34.240 --> 00:28:34.519
<v Speaker 2>do it with?

638
00:28:34.720 --> 00:28:38.680
<v Speaker 7>Right, there's you know what, there's certain kids and and

639
00:28:39.039 --> 00:28:42.039
<v Speaker 7>and when you get to know your team, yeah, you

640
00:28:42.119 --> 00:28:45.039
<v Speaker 7>know there's certain kids that you can push, there's some

641
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<v Speaker 7>that you there's there's some that you need to challenge,

642
00:28:47.960 --> 00:28:49.759
<v Speaker 7>there's some that you need to put your armor on

643
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<v Speaker 7>their shoulder. But you got to figure out every player.

644
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<v Speaker 7>What buttons do you push to get the most out

645
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<v Speaker 7>of this kid?

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<v Speaker 5>So what's your prediction for this week? Shoes had a

647
00:29:01.240 --> 00:29:03.039
<v Speaker 5>wonderful season. They're going to be in a bowl game

648
00:29:03.119 --> 00:29:04.559
<v Speaker 5>no matter matter what. What do you think is going

649
00:29:04.599 --> 00:29:05.920
<v Speaker 5>to happen? How do you think it's going to play out?

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<v Speaker 5>This where the underdogs sometimes you know, can pull off

651
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<v Speaker 5>a pretty good upset.

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<v Speaker 7>Well, David, in the in the rivalry games I played in,

653
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<v Speaker 7>I think.

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<v Speaker 3>We were the underdogs every game.

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<v Speaker 7>Right, And you know what, I'll tell you who I'm picking,

656
00:29:19.279 --> 00:29:22.359
<v Speaker 7>and it's who I've picked the previous ten games. This

657
00:29:22.519 --> 00:29:23.480
<v Speaker 7>year is Arizona.

658
00:29:23.599 --> 00:29:26.720
<v Speaker 3>I always pick Arizona. What would you tell?

659
00:29:26.720 --> 00:29:29.240
<v Speaker 2>You know, it's funny because we talk and I think

660
00:29:29.480 --> 00:29:31.480
<v Speaker 2>you're you're great at what you do, and then how

661
00:29:31.559 --> 00:29:33.519
<v Speaker 2>you say things. What would you tell this team, and

662
00:29:33.599 --> 00:29:35.000
<v Speaker 2>I think a lot of things you've already said on

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<v Speaker 2>the show to begin the show. No one's promised you anything,

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<v Speaker 2>go out and get it.

665
00:29:40.599 --> 00:29:40.759
<v Speaker 1>Well.

666
00:29:40.799 --> 00:29:44.200
<v Speaker 7>I would tell them from first hand experience that you're

667
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<v Speaker 7>going to put that helmet and those shoulder pads on

668
00:29:46.480 --> 00:29:48.799
<v Speaker 7>and it'll be the last time you do it for

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<v Speaker 7>most of those kids, at least most of those seniors

670
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<v Speaker 7>in an organized manner. You know, my last game against ASU,

671
00:29:57.279 --> 00:29:59.559
<v Speaker 7>I broke two ribs in the first quarter and I

672
00:29:59.599 --> 00:30:03.200
<v Speaker 7>remember coming to the sidelines and like, it was very uncomfortable,

673
00:30:03.519 --> 00:30:07.240
<v Speaker 7>and Dave, you'll remember our old trainer, Sue Hillmet's and

674
00:30:07.279 --> 00:30:09.880
<v Speaker 7>I remember Sue came up to me. Sue came up

675
00:30:09.960 --> 00:30:10.599
<v Speaker 7>and said.

676
00:30:10.839 --> 00:30:13.680
<v Speaker 3>Like, do you want to finish?

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00:30:14.079 --> 00:30:17.400
<v Speaker 7>Do you want your last time in this uniform to

678
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<v Speaker 7>be watching this game from the sidelines. And it didn't

679
00:30:20.880 --> 00:30:22.839
<v Speaker 7>take much and I was like, you know what, let's

680
00:30:22.880 --> 00:30:26.119
<v Speaker 7>go and I came back in and caught three or

681
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<v Speaker 7>four more passes that night.

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<v Speaker 3>You are crazy, You are crazy uncomfortable.

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<v Speaker 7>Of course, you know what if if these kids, like

684
00:30:37.799 --> 00:30:40.000
<v Speaker 7>we said, most of them are not going to go

685
00:30:40.079 --> 00:30:43.640
<v Speaker 7>to the next level. So make the most of what

686
00:30:43.799 --> 00:30:47.839
<v Speaker 7>you have and your opportunity and be reckless. They have

687
00:30:48.160 --> 00:30:49.079
<v Speaker 7>nothing to lose.

688
00:30:49.599 --> 00:30:50.680
<v Speaker 6>Why not be reckless?

689
00:30:51.000 --> 00:30:52.279
<v Speaker 7>Why not take chances?

690
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<v Speaker 3>Why not be crazy? No, you're right, And I see

691
00:30:55.720 --> 00:30:57.079
<v Speaker 3>some trick play that.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I think is that one of the reasons why

693
00:30:59.079 --> 00:31:01.160
<v Speaker 2>you beat them the way you beat them for three

694
00:31:01.200 --> 00:31:03.319
<v Speaker 2>straight years and they just continue and continued on.

695
00:31:03.480 --> 00:31:05.880
<v Speaker 3>You just played like there's nothing to lose.

696
00:31:07.920 --> 00:31:10.240
<v Speaker 7>And you know what, and there really wasn't because those

697
00:31:10.279 --> 00:31:15.920
<v Speaker 7>three seasons, like we had, we had Bowl eligible records,

698
00:31:16.160 --> 00:31:18.640
<v Speaker 7>but we weren't going anywhere that was gonna be it,

699
00:31:19.039 --> 00:31:20.839
<v Speaker 7>So why not let it rip?

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00:31:22.039 --> 00:31:24.599
<v Speaker 3>Yeah? I know you're right, You're right. Are you gonna

701
00:31:24.599 --> 00:31:27.960
<v Speaker 3>be there? Oh yeah? Oh yeah.

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<v Speaker 7>This is the this is the one you don't miss.

703
00:31:30.240 --> 00:31:32.119
<v Speaker 7>This is the one you don't miss now.

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<v Speaker 2>Unfortunately, I think it's going to be a big crowd

705
00:31:34.160 --> 00:31:36.400
<v Speaker 2>from ASU. You know, they're buying a lot of tickets

706
00:31:36.440 --> 00:31:38.880
<v Speaker 2>to come down to celebrate. Perfect time to win it.

707
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<v Speaker 7>Well, you know, Steve, I heard your show earlier in

708
00:31:42.279 --> 00:31:44.799
<v Speaker 7>the week and you were having a conversation about you know,

709
00:31:44.880 --> 00:31:47.720
<v Speaker 7>we Arizona had a rough week, you know with basketball

710
00:31:47.839 --> 00:31:52.759
<v Speaker 7>and and and with football and and uh like, what's

711
00:31:52.839 --> 00:31:56.119
<v Speaker 7>more disappointing and and who's given up on the season.

712
00:31:56.400 --> 00:32:00.160
<v Speaker 7>There's nothing to give up on. This game is so

713
00:32:00.680 --> 00:32:05.680
<v Speaker 7>important like that, there should be no sad faces. There

714
00:32:05.720 --> 00:32:08.960
<v Speaker 7>should be no uh like those kids should hit that

715
00:32:09.160 --> 00:32:14.440
<v Speaker 7>grass tomorrow afternoon with every bit of energy and effort

716
00:32:14.519 --> 00:32:17.759
<v Speaker 7>and enthusiasm that they have. There's nothing to feel sad about.

717
00:32:18.160 --> 00:32:21.519
<v Speaker 3>Go win the game. Yeah, yeah, it's gonna be fun.

718
00:32:21.759 --> 00:32:22.160
<v Speaker 3>Always is.

719
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<v Speaker 2>It's always unpredictable, and that's why I'd liked Arizona. I mean,

720
00:32:26.559 --> 00:32:28.559
<v Speaker 2>at least to cover to pay close. It's kind of

721
00:32:28.599 --> 00:32:31.000
<v Speaker 2>its own little season. This one game where teams, you know,

722
00:32:31.279 --> 00:32:32.839
<v Speaker 2>like you said, you never know what are they?

723
00:32:32.920 --> 00:32:34.839
<v Speaker 3>They're nine and two? Can you can?

724
00:32:34.960 --> 00:32:36.960
<v Speaker 2>We got we got little like a minute, give me

725
00:32:37.039 --> 00:32:40.279
<v Speaker 2>a give me a coach Smith and you get to

726
00:32:40.359 --> 00:32:42.279
<v Speaker 2>get ready to go out through the tunnel.

727
00:32:42.319 --> 00:32:44.000
<v Speaker 3>What does he tell you in one of these games?

728
00:32:45.200 --> 00:32:46.759
<v Speaker 7>You know, I'll tell you what there's There was a

729
00:32:46.839 --> 00:32:50.359
<v Speaker 7>game and I can't remember who we were playing, but

730
00:32:50.480 --> 00:32:52.799
<v Speaker 7>we were in the halftime locker room under the stadium

731
00:32:53.039 --> 00:32:55.559
<v Speaker 7>and there was a little, tiny, skinny door that only

732
00:32:55.680 --> 00:32:58.319
<v Speaker 7>one person could get out at a time to get

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00:32:58.400 --> 00:32:59.119
<v Speaker 7>back to the field.

734
00:33:00.920 --> 00:33:03.359
<v Speaker 3>Oh, no, our way, And.

735
00:33:03.400 --> 00:33:05.640
<v Speaker 7>He said, if you want to play in the second half.

736
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<v Speaker 7>If you expect to get in this game, you got

737
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<v Speaker 7>to get through me.

738
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<v Speaker 6>And he was knocking the dog snot.

739
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<v Speaker 7>Out of people right and left, and like you literally

740
00:33:15.920 --> 00:33:18.759
<v Speaker 7>had to fight through Coach Smith to get back to

741
00:33:18.880 --> 00:33:21.000
<v Speaker 7>the grass to have a chance to play. That was

742
00:33:21.079 --> 00:33:21.640
<v Speaker 7>Larry Smith.

743
00:33:21.720 --> 00:33:21.920
<v Speaker 6>Wow.

744
00:33:22.079 --> 00:33:24.839
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, well, well we need that again. Go go get

745
00:33:24.880 --> 00:33:26.960
<v Speaker 2>Brendan and go do the speech for them because they

746
00:33:27.039 --> 00:33:27.319
<v Speaker 2>need that.

747
00:33:28.880 --> 00:33:29.599
<v Speaker 3>Little pep talk.

748
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<v Speaker 7>Well, right on, you guys, bear down.

749
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<v Speaker 3>Thanks, Perhaps you have fun tomorrow or Saturday. We'll see

750
00:33:34.079 --> 00:33:39.119
<v Speaker 3>you soon. Thanks. Jay has always bear down. We got

751
00:33:39.240 --> 00:33:41.240
<v Speaker 3>to call it. I don't wonder if it's Jay. Hello,

752
00:33:41.319 --> 00:33:43.200
<v Speaker 3>you're on the air Hide of the Ball? Is this Jay?

753
00:33:44.640 --> 00:33:46.319
<v Speaker 1>J You know this?

754
00:33:46.440 --> 00:33:50.440
<v Speaker 3>Do you know the drill? Hold on? We got we

755
00:33:50.640 --> 00:33:53.000
<v Speaker 3>were on Jay Domas. We have a more important Jay

756
00:33:53.079 --> 00:33:53.519
<v Speaker 3>on the other.

757
00:33:55.079 --> 00:33:57.480
<v Speaker 6>Right, Well, put me on hold and come back and wait.

758
00:33:57.599 --> 00:33:59.400
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you're asking too much. We're gonna keep you on

759
00:33:59.519 --> 00:34:01.200
<v Speaker 2>because I don't want to lose you. We're gonna go

760
00:34:01.240 --> 00:34:01.759
<v Speaker 2>to commercial.

761
00:34:03.400 --> 00:34:06.680
<v Speaker 6>Okay, are you ready?

762
00:34:06.759 --> 00:34:06.920
<v Speaker 3>Man?

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00:34:08.079 --> 00:34:09.400
<v Speaker 2>Hey, welcome back to I Have the Ball here on

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<v Speaker 2>Fox Sports fourteen fifty. I'm Steve Rivera. In today with

765
00:34:12.320 --> 00:34:15.039
<v Speaker 2>me is Dave silver. Now on the phone, we have

766
00:34:15.480 --> 00:34:17.280
<v Speaker 2>Jay Gonzales. Jay, how are you?

767
00:34:18.400 --> 00:34:18.760
<v Speaker 3>I'm good?

768
00:34:18.800 --> 00:34:19.079
<v Speaker 1>How are you?

769
00:34:19.199 --> 00:34:19.440
<v Speaker 7>Guys?

770
00:34:19.719 --> 00:34:22.639
<v Speaker 3>We're surviving. I'm doing the board, so we're surviving.

771
00:34:22.960 --> 00:34:23.199
<v Speaker 6>We're on.

772
00:34:23.400 --> 00:34:25.280
<v Speaker 3>Are we on the air? You hear me?

773
00:34:25.360 --> 00:34:25.480
<v Speaker 1>Now?

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00:34:27.079 --> 00:34:28.679
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, Steve, I got I got handed to you.

775
00:34:28.840 --> 00:34:31.719
<v Speaker 7>Man. You picked up the skills in a very short

776
00:34:31.760 --> 00:34:32.320
<v Speaker 7>period of time.

777
00:34:32.440 --> 00:34:34.679
<v Speaker 2>Well, it's eighty percent of the skills. I'm missing a few.

778
00:34:34.800 --> 00:34:37.639
<v Speaker 2>I'm a four two not a five two guy. Hey,

779
00:34:37.960 --> 00:34:41.719
<v Speaker 2>before before we go with our picks, uh, you know,

780
00:34:41.840 --> 00:34:43.760
<v Speaker 2>for for the rest of the weekend. What do you

781
00:34:43.800 --> 00:34:45.639
<v Speaker 2>think about the game on Saturday.

782
00:34:47.360 --> 00:34:49.119
<v Speaker 6>I don't feel very good about it, Steeve. You know,

783
00:34:51.239 --> 00:34:54.119
<v Speaker 6>I know, if you know that's the rivalry, anything can happen.

784
00:34:54.239 --> 00:34:57.400
<v Speaker 6>You know, worst Arizona teams have beat better as U

785
00:34:57.519 --> 00:35:01.440
<v Speaker 6>teams than vice versa. But when you look at when

786
00:35:01.480 --> 00:35:04.599
<v Speaker 6>you really look at the scores of Arizona's games this year,

787
00:35:05.000 --> 00:35:07.920
<v Speaker 6>you know the big losses, you know, and you have

788
00:35:08.000 --> 00:35:10.800
<v Speaker 6>a team that is hot at ASU. It's confident as

789
00:35:10.840 --> 00:35:14.079
<v Speaker 6>ASU and as good as ASU. I don't see how

790
00:35:14.079 --> 00:35:16.960
<v Speaker 6>Arizona has I mean, they've got a chance to beat

791
00:35:17.039 --> 00:35:19.280
<v Speaker 6>them just because it's a rivalry game. But I don't

792
00:35:19.280 --> 00:35:21.880
<v Speaker 6>feel very good about it. I you know, I don't

793
00:35:21.880 --> 00:35:22.679
<v Speaker 6>see how they beat them.

794
00:35:22.920 --> 00:35:23.079
<v Speaker 1>Now.

795
00:35:23.880 --> 00:35:26.400
<v Speaker 6>You know what I'll be happy is, you know, as

796
00:35:26.400 --> 00:35:28.519
<v Speaker 6>anybody else if they do. But I don't see how

797
00:35:28.559 --> 00:35:30.639
<v Speaker 6>they do it. I just this team just is not

798
00:35:32.079 --> 00:35:34.159
<v Speaker 6>You haven't seen anything that tells you that they can

799
00:35:34.199 --> 00:35:35.000
<v Speaker 6>win this game.

800
00:35:35.280 --> 00:35:37.920
<v Speaker 2>Right, right, We'll see what happens. It should be a

801
00:35:38.000 --> 00:35:40.119
<v Speaker 2>pat crowd and not because of Arizona fans.

802
00:35:40.159 --> 00:35:42.400
<v Speaker 6>I think it's going to be, right, Yeah, I've been

803
00:35:42.480 --> 00:35:46.400
<v Speaker 6>forewarned about that, you know, you know, you know that

804
00:35:46.480 --> 00:35:49.880
<v Speaker 6>I don't like the ASU fans. They've been you know,

805
00:35:50.199 --> 00:35:54.119
<v Speaker 6>and Arizona fans aren't any better. They've been jerks. And

806
00:35:54.239 --> 00:35:55.679
<v Speaker 6>I you know, I haven't been in to Sun Devil

807
00:35:55.719 --> 00:35:58.960
<v Speaker 6>Stadium for a game in twenty years because a thirty

808
00:35:59.039 --> 00:36:01.000
<v Speaker 6>year old guy wanted to fight my seventy year old

809
00:36:01.079 --> 00:36:03.800
<v Speaker 6>dad over a you know, six inches on a seat

810
00:36:03.960 --> 00:36:06.239
<v Speaker 6>and uh, you know, right in front of my son.

811
00:36:06.440 --> 00:36:08.440
<v Speaker 6>And that's the last experience I've had with those guys.

812
00:36:08.480 --> 00:36:09.400
<v Speaker 3>And I don't like them.

813
00:36:09.719 --> 00:36:12.039
<v Speaker 6>I know they're going to be sitting with us, but.

814
00:36:12.599 --> 00:36:13.320
<v Speaker 1>It is what it is.

815
00:36:13.719 --> 00:36:16.559
<v Speaker 5>I remember going to the games as a media member too,

816
00:36:16.840 --> 00:36:19.000
<v Speaker 5>just in the parking lot just getting out of my

817
00:36:19.159 --> 00:36:22.320
<v Speaker 5>car and they recognized either our logo or our city

818
00:36:22.480 --> 00:36:25.280
<v Speaker 5>or something. And you know, there was smack talk just

819
00:36:25.360 --> 00:36:28.039
<v Speaker 5>to get into the into the stadium. It was sometimes

820
00:36:28.280 --> 00:36:28.800
<v Speaker 5>kind of rough.

821
00:36:29.800 --> 00:36:31.679
<v Speaker 6>No, that's a true that's a true story. Dare I mean,

822
00:36:31.800 --> 00:36:34.719
<v Speaker 6>I'm sure you know that. Yeah, I mean that that happens.

823
00:36:34.760 --> 00:36:38.119
<v Speaker 6>And and look, and like I said, neither neither fan

824
00:36:38.239 --> 00:36:40.400
<v Speaker 6>base is any better than the others. You know, our

825
00:36:40.480 --> 00:36:42.960
<v Speaker 6>fans do stuff to their fans and all that, but

826
00:36:43.079 --> 00:36:45.079
<v Speaker 6>it's just you know, I don't do that to other

827
00:36:45.199 --> 00:36:48.360
<v Speaker 6>fans and to have you know, that kind of stuff.

828
00:36:48.800 --> 00:36:50.760
<v Speaker 6>That That was the second time my dad nearly got

829
00:36:50.800 --> 00:36:51.639
<v Speaker 6>in a fight with a guy.

830
00:36:52.159 --> 00:36:54.599
<v Speaker 7>And look, my dad will start fights, but he didn't

831
00:36:54.599 --> 00:36:56.440
<v Speaker 7>start it.

832
00:36:56.519 --> 00:36:58.559
<v Speaker 3>Seems like the clubsy nominator is your dad.

833
00:36:59.519 --> 00:37:03.079
<v Speaker 6>Well I know, but there was one in ninety five,

834
00:37:03.239 --> 00:37:08.079
<v Speaker 6>that ninety five game, remember where or Chie Jenkins was

835
00:37:08.119 --> 00:37:10.880
<v Speaker 6>a freshman, And uh, there.

836
00:37:10.840 --> 00:37:12.840
<v Speaker 7>Was that game again over the same thing.

837
00:37:12.920 --> 00:37:15.159
<v Speaker 6>You know, the seats are tight there and the guy

838
00:37:15.239 --> 00:37:17.280
<v Speaker 6>thought my dad was crowding him and he put his

839
00:37:17.360 --> 00:37:20.280
<v Speaker 6>fists in my dad's face. I'm like, dude, he'll kill you.

840
00:37:20.559 --> 00:37:21.119
<v Speaker 6>Just stop.

841
00:37:21.719 --> 00:37:23.960
<v Speaker 7>Yeah, my dad would kill him.

842
00:37:24.000 --> 00:37:25.920
<v Speaker 6>I mean, my dad's fits were like a bowling ball.

843
00:37:26.199 --> 00:37:28.599
<v Speaker 7>Yeah, anyway, but that's old stuff.

844
00:37:28.639 --> 00:37:31.119
<v Speaker 6>But I you know, I it's I think it's going

845
00:37:31.199 --> 00:37:34.639
<v Speaker 6>to be a game that I think Arizona fans are

846
00:37:34.639 --> 00:37:36.440
<v Speaker 6>going to be quiet pretty much the whole game. Yeah,

847
00:37:36.440 --> 00:37:36.840
<v Speaker 6>I really do.

848
00:37:37.039 --> 00:37:39.360
<v Speaker 3>Okay, So now we got something weird has to happen.

849
00:37:39.480 --> 00:37:42.199
<v Speaker 2>We got eight minutes to go through some picks. Go

850
00:37:42.280 --> 00:37:43.960
<v Speaker 2>ahead and recap because I know you want to.

851
00:37:45.000 --> 00:37:47.960
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, well I had a perfect week last week. You

852
00:37:48.119 --> 00:37:52.599
<v Speaker 6>forgot to do a lot half, but you're still a

853
00:37:52.719 --> 00:37:53.639
<v Speaker 6>point a half ahead of me.

854
00:37:53.719 --> 00:37:55.199
<v Speaker 3>It's a point in half. I thought two and a half.

855
00:37:55.239 --> 00:37:56.119
<v Speaker 3>I thought two and a half.

856
00:37:56.320 --> 00:37:57.800
<v Speaker 6>No, I think it's one and a half.

857
00:37:59.000 --> 00:38:01.519
<v Speaker 3>Okay, either way, Well it's it's short.

858
00:38:02.480 --> 00:38:02.599
<v Speaker 1>You know.

859
00:38:02.639 --> 00:38:03.840
<v Speaker 3>I'm back on you. I got you.

860
00:38:04.400 --> 00:38:07.800
<v Speaker 7>So, but it is my second perfect week.

861
00:38:07.880 --> 00:38:09.239
<v Speaker 6>You've only had one, So there's that.

862
00:38:10.440 --> 00:38:11.199
<v Speaker 10>But it was.

863
00:38:12.719 --> 00:38:14.119
<v Speaker 7>But you know, hey, what can I say?

864
00:38:14.199 --> 00:38:15.440
<v Speaker 6>It was a It was a it was a good

865
00:38:15.480 --> 00:38:16.960
<v Speaker 6>week for me. I don't have very many of those.

866
00:38:17.320 --> 00:38:19.760
<v Speaker 3>Okay, So go ahead and pick you. You get the

867
00:38:19.840 --> 00:38:20.360
<v Speaker 3>leader from now?

868
00:38:20.400 --> 00:38:22.679
<v Speaker 6>All right, Well i'll start. You know, this is a

869
00:38:22.760 --> 00:38:24.480
<v Speaker 6>game that I tend to stay away from all the

870
00:38:24.519 --> 00:38:26.360
<v Speaker 6>time because I never get it right. But I'm gonna

871
00:38:26.360 --> 00:38:29.119
<v Speaker 6>take it this this year because there's so many things

872
00:38:29.199 --> 00:38:33.000
<v Speaker 6>going against Michigan and for Ohio State right now, and

873
00:38:33.119 --> 00:38:35.719
<v Speaker 6>it's a huge spread for a rivalry game like that.

874
00:38:35.840 --> 00:38:37.760
<v Speaker 6>But I just in Ohio State is that good? And

875
00:38:37.840 --> 00:38:40.880
<v Speaker 6>I'm gonna give the twenty and a half to Michigan

876
00:38:41.039 --> 00:38:44.440
<v Speaker 6>at Ohio State three touchdowns Saturday morning.

877
00:38:44.760 --> 00:38:44.960
<v Speaker 3>Wow.

878
00:38:45.119 --> 00:38:46.920
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's a wild thing. But I think you're gonna

879
00:38:47.000 --> 00:38:47.840
<v Speaker 2>that's a good pick.

880
00:38:47.920 --> 00:38:51.119
<v Speaker 3>Where is that game? Is that a Columbus that Ohio State? No,

881
00:38:51.320 --> 00:38:52.960
<v Speaker 3>I think that's a good one. That's a good one.

882
00:38:52.960 --> 00:38:55.719
<v Speaker 6>Ohio State's been waiting to beat these guys for years.

883
00:38:56.400 --> 00:38:58.000
<v Speaker 6>If they get a chance to port on, they're going

884
00:38:58.039 --> 00:39:00.840
<v Speaker 6>to We saw what they did last week the Indiana.

885
00:39:01.400 --> 00:39:02.679
<v Speaker 6>You know, they could have taken a knee at the

886
00:39:02.719 --> 00:39:05.239
<v Speaker 6>one yard line and they punched it in instead of

887
00:39:05.400 --> 00:39:08.159
<v Speaker 6>just taking the knee. They're you know, they're they're they're

888
00:39:08.280 --> 00:39:10.199
<v Speaker 6>not gonna take any chances. I think they're gonna lay it.

889
00:39:10.440 --> 00:39:12.800
<v Speaker 6>They're gonna lay one on Michigan if in any way

890
00:39:12.920 --> 00:39:13.519
<v Speaker 6>possibly can.

891
00:39:13.719 --> 00:39:15.679
<v Speaker 3>Okay, So we got to breach through these things quickly.

892
00:39:15.960 --> 00:39:16.800
<v Speaker 3>So you got that one.

893
00:39:16.840 --> 00:39:20.920
<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna go with my NFC NFL stuff first, Dallas

894
00:39:21.159 --> 00:39:24.639
<v Speaker 2>over the Giants. You know, Dallas at home. Giants are

895
00:39:24.719 --> 00:39:27.559
<v Speaker 2>just horrible. Dallas is just not as horrible. So I'm

896
00:39:27.599 --> 00:39:32.000
<v Speaker 2>taking Dallas, Okay, all right, my.

897
00:39:32.079 --> 00:39:35.280
<v Speaker 6>Next college game. I know that Army got obliterated last week,

898
00:39:35.320 --> 00:39:37.239
<v Speaker 6>and I knew they would against Notre Dame. But I

899
00:39:37.320 --> 00:39:39.639
<v Speaker 6>think they're gonna be a little pissed off. And they

900
00:39:39.719 --> 00:39:42.119
<v Speaker 6>got UTSA this week. They're only giving seven, So I'm

901
00:39:42.119 --> 00:39:45.760
<v Speaker 6>gonna take Army. They're still really really good, particularly for

902
00:39:46.079 --> 00:39:49.159
<v Speaker 6>you know, a mid level team like UTSA, and I

903
00:39:49.159 --> 00:39:50.880
<v Speaker 6>think they're gonna blast them. I think they're gonna be

904
00:39:51.239 --> 00:39:53.280
<v Speaker 6>a little pissed off about what happened to them last week.

905
00:39:53.280 --> 00:39:56.199
<v Speaker 2>An ud Dame, Okay, I don't know who you're getting

906
00:39:56.199 --> 00:39:57.840
<v Speaker 2>your picks, but you're doing well this year, which is

907
00:39:57.880 --> 00:39:58.400
<v Speaker 2>a shocker.

908
00:40:00.480 --> 00:40:01.559
<v Speaker 3>And I mean that sincerely.

909
00:40:01.960 --> 00:40:03.679
<v Speaker 6>Okay, So I don't want to talk to me like that.

910
00:40:05.239 --> 00:40:07.920
<v Speaker 3>He's he's in he's right in my sight, so he's

911
00:40:07.920 --> 00:40:08.360
<v Speaker 3>looking at me.

912
00:40:08.800 --> 00:40:10.599
<v Speaker 2>So okay, I'm gonna go with this team that's already

913
00:40:10.639 --> 00:40:12.199
<v Speaker 2>messed with me too many times, but I'm gonna do

914
00:40:12.199 --> 00:40:14.559
<v Speaker 2>it again because I don't know why the Chiefs, the

915
00:40:14.639 --> 00:40:17.320
<v Speaker 2>Kansas City Chiefs. I thought they'd easily win last week

916
00:40:17.400 --> 00:40:19.800
<v Speaker 2>and cover, but they barely. They're barely won. So I'm

917
00:40:19.800 --> 00:40:22.480
<v Speaker 2>gonna go with the Chiefs again, this time wondering when

918
00:40:22.480 --> 00:40:23.599
<v Speaker 2>they're going to show up to play.

919
00:40:23.760 --> 00:40:26.000
<v Speaker 3>Well, who are they playing? I forgot.

920
00:40:29.360 --> 00:40:30.559
<v Speaker 6>The Chiefs are playing.

921
00:40:32.199 --> 00:40:32.480
<v Speaker 7>For me.

922
00:40:32.800 --> 00:40:35.519
<v Speaker 3>They've got the Raiders. Yeah, and the Raiders just always fun.

923
00:40:36.800 --> 00:40:42.000
<v Speaker 7>Okay, okay, right, okay, we we both got to pick Texas.

924
00:40:42.039 --> 00:40:44.559
<v Speaker 6>Texas A and M that's are special, so we'll pick that. Left,

925
00:40:44.599 --> 00:40:47.800
<v Speaker 6>I'll move to the NFL. I'm all all all over

926
00:40:47.920 --> 00:40:50.880
<v Speaker 6>the Lions on the Bears minus nine and a half

927
00:40:51.280 --> 00:40:54.280
<v Speaker 6>on Thursday morning. I can't wait to get back to

928
00:40:54.360 --> 00:40:58.239
<v Speaker 6>the house after my son's Turkey Bowl game to get

929
00:40:58.320 --> 00:40:58.920
<v Speaker 6>into that game.

930
00:40:58.960 --> 00:41:00.920
<v Speaker 3>But the Lions are just so good.

931
00:41:01.800 --> 00:41:03.519
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, okay, that's a good one. We only had like

932
00:41:03.559 --> 00:41:05.679
<v Speaker 2>three and a half minutes, four minutes. I'm gonna sleep

933
00:41:05.719 --> 00:41:09.440
<v Speaker 2>with the NFL. Go with Tampa, Uh, Tampa the Bay

934
00:41:09.800 --> 00:41:11.280
<v Speaker 2>I can't remember who they played, but I going with

935
00:41:11.320 --> 00:41:13.199
<v Speaker 2>Tampa and that's gonna be my lock.

936
00:41:14.400 --> 00:41:17.719
<v Speaker 6>Okay, all right, Oh, the Lions are my lock and

937
00:41:18.239 --> 00:41:19.039
<v Speaker 6>playing Carolina.

938
00:41:19.280 --> 00:41:20.159
<v Speaker 3>Okay, thank you.

939
00:41:20.559 --> 00:41:22.599
<v Speaker 6>My other NFL game, I'm gonna wait till Monday night.

940
00:41:23.000 --> 00:41:25.119
<v Speaker 6>The Broncos did did good for me last week. I'm

941
00:41:25.119 --> 00:41:26.480
<v Speaker 6>going to take them again. Give him five and a

942
00:41:26.519 --> 00:41:28.280
<v Speaker 6>half to the Browns in Denver.

943
00:41:28.599 --> 00:41:31.440
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, that's a good one too. It's a good one too. Okay.

944
00:41:31.800 --> 00:41:33.679
<v Speaker 3>So now I'm gonna do do this one too.

945
00:41:33.760 --> 00:41:36.159
<v Speaker 2>With with the Prime having lost, I think they're going

946
00:41:36.239 --> 00:41:38.519
<v Speaker 2>to re return and when and with this one, I

947
00:41:38.599 --> 00:41:40.519
<v Speaker 2>wanted to go with this with with the Lock, but

948
00:41:40.599 --> 00:41:41.079
<v Speaker 2>I didn't.

949
00:41:41.159 --> 00:41:41.880
<v Speaker 3>I went with Tampa.

950
00:41:42.119 --> 00:41:46.760
<v Speaker 6>So Colorado, okay, all right, Just staying away from that

951
00:41:46.840 --> 00:41:49.000
<v Speaker 6>because I you know, if these guys feel like they

952
00:41:49.079 --> 00:41:51.880
<v Speaker 6>got nothing to play for, you know, if they you know,

953
00:41:52.280 --> 00:41:54.079
<v Speaker 6>because everybody's saying that they're out of the out of

954
00:41:54.119 --> 00:41:56.800
<v Speaker 6>the playoffs. I just wonder about attitudes on that team.

955
00:41:56.840 --> 00:41:59.360
<v Speaker 6>So yeah, I'm staying away from that day. My last

956
00:41:59.440 --> 00:42:02.840
<v Speaker 6>kick taking Texas, Texas A and M and I gotta

957
00:42:02.880 --> 00:42:04.880
<v Speaker 6>take the Longhorns because I've been on their bandwide in

958
00:42:04.920 --> 00:42:08.159
<v Speaker 6>all year. I'll be upset with myself if I don't

959
00:42:08.199 --> 00:42:10.920
<v Speaker 6>take them and then they cover. So I'm gonna take Texas,

960
00:42:11.480 --> 00:42:13.800
<v Speaker 6>take giving the five and a half to Texas.

961
00:42:13.519 --> 00:42:13.880
<v Speaker 1>A and M.

962
00:42:14.159 --> 00:42:15.960
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I went with the same way. I wanted to

963
00:42:16.000 --> 00:42:17.880
<v Speaker 2>go with A and M because it's at home, but

964
00:42:18.559 --> 00:42:20.639
<v Speaker 2>Texas can't afford to lose this game, so I'm gonna

965
00:42:20.639 --> 00:42:24.000
<v Speaker 2>go with Texas as well. All right, Okay, okay, we

966
00:42:24.119 --> 00:42:26.639
<v Speaker 2>have some time. No, we'll get those picks. You'll post

967
00:42:26.679 --> 00:42:27.719
<v Speaker 2>them this time right in.

968
00:42:27.760 --> 00:42:29.760
<v Speaker 6>The rest, so I will post them this time around chair.

969
00:42:29.920 --> 00:42:31.559
<v Speaker 2>Okay, so we've got about two and a half minutes.

970
00:42:31.840 --> 00:42:34.840
<v Speaker 2>Let's go do basketball real quick. What do you think

971
00:42:34.920 --> 00:42:36.559
<v Speaker 2>is going on with that basketball team.

972
00:42:37.800 --> 00:42:39.920
<v Speaker 6>I think they're figuring themselves out. I think it's a

973
00:42:40.000 --> 00:42:43.639
<v Speaker 6>situation where again, you know, Tommy has done such a

974
00:42:43.719 --> 00:42:46.719
<v Speaker 6>good job of melding his team when it has a

975
00:42:46.760 --> 00:42:48.840
<v Speaker 6>lot of turnover. Each team he's had has had a

976
00:42:48.880 --> 00:42:51.039
<v Speaker 6>bunch of turnover. He's done such a good job of

977
00:42:51.159 --> 00:42:55.199
<v Speaker 6>putting that together, and it's not fitting as easily right now,

978
00:42:55.400 --> 00:42:58.199
<v Speaker 6>you know, And so I think previously, you know, he

979
00:42:58.280 --> 00:43:01.519
<v Speaker 6>hasn't played very much. A lot, you know, he's got

980
00:43:01.719 --> 00:43:03.159
<v Speaker 6>there's a lot of things that he's got to catch

981
00:43:03.280 --> 00:43:06.480
<v Speaker 6>up on. I think, Caleb but still just finding himself

982
00:43:06.519 --> 00:43:08.639
<v Speaker 6>trying to maybe trying to take on too much and

983
00:43:08.679 --> 00:43:10.639
<v Speaker 6>maybe they need to simplify things for him as well.

984
00:43:11.079 --> 00:43:14.159
<v Speaker 6>I just think it's you shouldn't be any more any

985
00:43:14.239 --> 00:43:19.199
<v Speaker 6>more worked up about them than Duke is about itself. Right,

986
00:43:19.519 --> 00:43:21.360
<v Speaker 6>they've lost, you know, they've lost a couple of games,

987
00:43:21.400 --> 00:43:22.920
<v Speaker 6>so it just relaxed.

988
00:43:22.960 --> 00:43:23.639
<v Speaker 3>It's November.

989
00:43:24.000 --> 00:43:26.320
<v Speaker 6>They've lost too. It's not like they lost to old

990
00:43:26.360 --> 00:43:27.199
<v Speaker 6>dominion or anything.

991
00:43:27.480 --> 00:43:29.159
<v Speaker 7>I mean, they're fine, just kid, they just got to

992
00:43:29.159 --> 00:43:30.519
<v Speaker 7>take some time to get let's see.

993
00:43:30.679 --> 00:43:32.280
<v Speaker 6>You know, look, if they don't go lose three in

994
00:43:32.320 --> 00:43:34.320
<v Speaker 6>the Bahamas, they do better than Sean Miller did.

995
00:43:34.400 --> 00:43:34.760
<v Speaker 3>That's right.

996
00:43:35.079 --> 00:43:37.760
<v Speaker 5>DeAndre Aten season right, and that's what we always measure

997
00:43:37.800 --> 00:43:40.159
<v Speaker 5>stuff against, you know, uh, least they didn't do what

998
00:43:40.239 --> 00:43:40.920
<v Speaker 5>Sean Miller did.

999
00:43:41.119 --> 00:43:43.880
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, No, I Caleb's the Caleb situation is a little

1000
00:43:43.880 --> 00:43:46.199
<v Speaker 2>bizarre because he needs to play better. We all know that.

1001
00:43:46.480 --> 00:43:46.840
<v Speaker 3>Crevious.

1002
00:43:46.880 --> 00:43:49.280
<v Speaker 2>I agree with you because I think I do think

1003
00:43:49.320 --> 00:43:51.480
<v Speaker 2>that Tom is going to mix up the lineup tonight

1004
00:43:51.920 --> 00:43:54.039
<v Speaker 2>to kind of reflect what he may be kind of

1005
00:43:54.079 --> 00:43:56.719
<v Speaker 2>threatened last week. Uh, it was kind of an eye

1006
00:43:56.760 --> 00:43:59.239
<v Speaker 2>opener for him and for everybody else that things probably

1007
00:43:59.280 --> 00:43:59.880
<v Speaker 2>need to change.

1008
00:44:00.960 --> 00:44:03.199
<v Speaker 6>He's got good players, Steve. I mean, he's got good

1009
00:44:03.199 --> 00:44:05.599
<v Speaker 6>players that that trio on the outside with with with

1010
00:44:05.760 --> 00:44:08.800
<v Speaker 6>Caleb and and Uh and uh and kJ Lewis and

1011
00:44:09.079 --> 00:44:09.639
<v Speaker 6>and uh.

1012
00:44:11.320 --> 00:44:11.559
<v Speaker 1>And JA.

1013
00:44:12.280 --> 00:44:14.840
<v Speaker 6>That's a really good back hoard, you know.

1014
00:44:15.440 --> 00:44:17.679
<v Speaker 7>I think, I you know, I'm starting to think maybe tray.

1015
00:44:17.559 --> 00:44:19.280
<v Speaker 6>Townson isn't what we thought he was going to be,

1016
00:44:19.320 --> 00:44:21.639
<v Speaker 6>and they maybe need to move some guys around. I'd

1017
00:44:21.760 --> 00:44:23.559
<v Speaker 6>like to see more of Carter Bryant. So let let's

1018
00:44:23.559 --> 00:44:24.039
<v Speaker 6>see what happened.

1019
00:44:24.079 --> 00:44:26.000
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, I was gonna say that too. He looked he

1020
00:44:26.039 --> 00:44:27.559
<v Speaker 5>hit a couple of big shots the other night.

1021
00:44:27.679 --> 00:44:29.559
<v Speaker 3>Right, him and Waka.

1022
00:44:29.639 --> 00:44:31.599
<v Speaker 2>I think you know Oaka am I moving to the

1023
00:44:31.639 --> 00:44:35.079
<v Speaker 2>spot where Creevis was and let Henry play a little

1024
00:44:35.119 --> 00:44:35.559
<v Speaker 2>bit more too.

1025
00:44:36.639 --> 00:44:39.519
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, yeah, And they certainly seemed more physical when a

1026
00:44:39.599 --> 00:44:43.000
<v Speaker 6>Waka was in there, but they were more physical against two. Right,

1027
00:44:43.119 --> 00:44:44.800
<v Speaker 6>So let's see what happens.

1028
00:44:45.000 --> 00:44:47.000
<v Speaker 7>Okay, I think I think, I think they're fine.

1029
00:44:47.400 --> 00:44:51.559
<v Speaker 2>Okay, we gotta go. Thanks, Jay, have a great Thanksgiving you,

1030
00:44:52.000 --> 00:44:54.800
<v Speaker 2>thank you, thank you. We got to go, everybody, Thanks,

1031
00:44:54.880 --> 00:44:57.880
<v Speaker 2>thanks for listening. Was here next week and uh good

1032
00:44:57.960 --> 00:44:58.920
<v Speaker 2>luck for the weekend.
