WEBVTT 1 00:00:08.199 --> 00:00:10.919 What is the deal, Jessica Bill, we are back with 2 00:00:10.960 --> 00:00:12.119 more Fire Escape cast. 3 00:00:12.199 --> 00:00:13.759 It's episode one hundred and twenty four. 4 00:00:13.960 --> 00:00:17.000 It is thirty six degrees fahrenheit in Juneo, Alaska. I'm 5 00:00:17.039 --> 00:00:20.480 your host, Michael Maharty here as always with Mary kesh 6 00:00:20.719 --> 00:00:22.559 Hello and Dan Reiker. 7 00:00:22.879 --> 00:00:24.679 I don't think it's getting better the intro. 8 00:00:25.199 --> 00:00:27.480 I think it's I think it sounded pretty smooth. If 9 00:00:27.480 --> 00:00:29.199 I don't say so myself, if I do. 10 00:00:29.440 --> 00:00:34.000 A straight line, it is rest. Has it declined? 11 00:00:34.200 --> 00:00:36.679 I can try again? All right? 12 00:00:39.560 --> 00:00:40.439 What rhymes? 13 00:00:41.399 --> 00:00:42.320 That's exactly what. 14 00:00:43.039 --> 00:00:45.439 I came up with, Jessica Bill, Like ten am, today's 15 00:00:45.439 --> 00:00:48.960 Oh use that? Uh No, I don't feel like doing 16 00:00:49.000 --> 00:00:51.799 it again. We're in the show. What's going on with YouTube? 17 00:00:52.439 --> 00:00:55.159 Oh? Hanging out? 18 00:00:57.159 --> 00:01:00.759 I don't have anything, second way anything. 19 00:01:00.880 --> 00:01:03.520 I was just about to say it's twenty twenty six now, 20 00:01:03.520 --> 00:01:06.120 but we literally recorded on New Year's Day this year. 21 00:01:06.760 --> 00:01:10.760 Yeah, that was still when it was like the break 22 00:01:11.040 --> 00:01:13.760 for lack of a better term, quote unquote, where we 23 00:01:13.760 --> 00:01:16.519 weren't technically back into the grind. And now I am 24 00:01:16.920 --> 00:01:19.480 back into the grind, and it hits different when you 25 00:01:19.560 --> 00:01:21.400 got to go to work in the morning. 26 00:01:21.959 --> 00:01:24.280 Yeah, we're back at it, and none of us have 27 00:01:24.319 --> 00:01:28.519 to like go into a place right supposedtill once a week. 28 00:01:29.560 --> 00:01:30.840 Oh yeah, you go in once a week. 29 00:01:31.239 --> 00:01:34.560 I love the remote life, but I will also say 30 00:01:34.599 --> 00:01:37.920 it comes with this like additional labor, that I have 31 00:01:38.280 --> 00:01:42.560 very little work life separation, and I am constantly plagued 32 00:01:42.560 --> 00:01:45.400 with like thinking about work even at like ten pm 33 00:01:45.519 --> 00:01:49.000 on a Tuesday, because my office is where I be gaming. 34 00:01:49.680 --> 00:01:51.280 I don't so if you were playing a game not 35 00:01:51.480 --> 00:01:53.680 for work or anything you are doing in the same. 36 00:01:53.599 --> 00:01:58.040 Room generally, But I actually to fix that. 37 00:01:58.079 --> 00:02:00.719 In twenty twenty six, I made a second office. 38 00:02:01.319 --> 00:02:04.599 Oh wait, is the room you're in now considered an office? 39 00:02:05.000 --> 00:02:05.319 Yes? 40 00:02:05.359 --> 00:02:08.680 Absolutely, I mean, I mean this is a closet, but yes, 41 00:02:08.719 --> 00:02:09.840 I have converted. 42 00:02:09.400 --> 00:02:10.240 It into my office. 43 00:02:10.360 --> 00:02:12.879 If you're not, if you're not a video patriot, it's 44 00:02:13.039 --> 00:02:14.120 a big it's a room. 45 00:02:14.879 --> 00:02:17.759 Yeah, But like he looks like. 46 00:02:16.840 --> 00:02:19.840 It doesn't look like a closet. I've been in that room. 47 00:02:19.840 --> 00:02:26.199 It's pretty big. I have great closets. 48 00:02:26.360 --> 00:02:29.319 You can't walk into your closets in my closet. 49 00:02:29.360 --> 00:02:30.960 You want to watch me do it. 50 00:02:32.400 --> 00:02:36.759 It's fucking He's got to fucking dodge this shitty looking xenomorphos. 51 00:02:36.800 --> 00:02:40.719 Wearing socks, shoving his body. He can't fit. 52 00:02:40.879 --> 00:02:43.599 He can't fit, it's gonna pinch his dick in the. 53 00:02:43.560 --> 00:02:47.599 Crack, shoves his body into the closet. 54 00:02:47.639 --> 00:02:50.159 Quick say something, Uh say somebody. He looks like he's stuck. 55 00:02:51.120 --> 00:02:53.479 The mirror is just flexing as if he is stuck. 56 00:02:54.800 --> 00:02:57.599 I think he's he's back, he's fine. He looks like 57 00:02:57.639 --> 00:03:00.840 he hurt himself. Hopefully he couldn't hear I say, okay, 58 00:03:00.840 --> 00:03:01.240 he's back. 59 00:03:02.759 --> 00:03:03.080 Yeah. 60 00:03:03.120 --> 00:03:05.360 So like then they were saying that I think the 61 00:03:05.360 --> 00:03:08.479 bill supposedly did make it past Congress, past Senate is 62 00:03:08.520 --> 00:03:10.479 the one. Sorry, man, we got off on it. Yeah, 63 00:03:10.719 --> 00:03:11.000 what's up? 64 00:03:11.120 --> 00:03:13.159 I can see I legitimately got stuck in there. I 65 00:03:13.159 --> 00:03:16.039 tried to immediately leave, and then I couldn't. 66 00:03:15.800 --> 00:03:17.360 They don't mirror. 67 00:03:17.520 --> 00:03:19.159 It's like, you know, like car trunks, you know, in 68 00:03:19.240 --> 00:03:20.800 case the mob throws you in there. They put like 69 00:03:20.840 --> 00:03:23.159 emergency things then for closets. 70 00:03:23.280 --> 00:03:25.800 Turn there was flexing, and I was like, he might 71 00:03:25.840 --> 00:03:28.400 be stuck. But I think it's a bit that's funny, you. 72 00:03:28.439 --> 00:03:31.319 Know why, because you're not supposed to walk in there. 73 00:03:31.439 --> 00:03:33.400 Dan, it's not a walk in Oh, I'm sure you 74 00:03:33.439 --> 00:03:35.400 got handles a holy in all your closets. 75 00:03:35.439 --> 00:03:36.759 It's a cytyle in closet. 76 00:03:36.960 --> 00:03:38.520 It's a little too big, honestly. 77 00:03:38.840 --> 00:03:41.719 Oh yeah, I'm want to start broadcasting from in there. 78 00:03:42.159 --> 00:03:46.400 Yeah, broadcasting that anyway, I associate this with work, even 79 00:03:46.439 --> 00:03:49.080 though it's for gaming and for fun. So I made 80 00:03:49.080 --> 00:03:53.639 a secondary desk set up so that I can associate 81 00:03:53.719 --> 00:03:54.360 this with fun. 82 00:03:54.599 --> 00:03:55.599 That was my hope. 83 00:03:56.199 --> 00:03:58.400 And then the other offices are on the boat on 84 00:03:58.439 --> 00:04:01.080 top of the mountain, the water all the those are 85 00:04:01.080 --> 00:04:01.840 the other offices. 86 00:04:01.960 --> 00:04:03.439 Right, it's in the menagerie. 87 00:04:03.680 --> 00:04:07.439 I see, I see. Okay, the office behind a waterfall 88 00:04:07.439 --> 00:04:09.639 would be fucking sweetly, would be awesome. 89 00:04:09.960 --> 00:04:12.439 It's in the hallway above the stairs. 90 00:04:15.680 --> 00:04:18.160 Yeah, but no, it's a it's a sizable closet. I 91 00:04:18.199 --> 00:04:19.040 will say that. 92 00:04:19.519 --> 00:04:22.600 I love it. It's it's a cool. But this is 93 00:04:22.839 --> 00:04:26.199 you know, this house was nineteen fourteen. This is an old. 94 00:04:26.000 --> 00:04:29.639 House, as they did all sorts of weird stuff back then, 95 00:04:30.120 --> 00:04:35.079 And this was the attic because back then you had 96 00:04:35.120 --> 00:04:37.959 eight children and they all were in one bedroom, and 97 00:04:38.000 --> 00:04:40.600 the mom and dad were in one bedroom, and you 98 00:04:40.639 --> 00:04:42.720 sat around you looked at the fire every night, and 99 00:04:42.720 --> 00:04:44.720 that's how they lived back then, all the. 100 00:04:44.759 --> 00:04:46.000 Kids were in the same bedroom. 101 00:04:46.519 --> 00:04:49.399 Yeah, there's this is a two bedroom house, one hundred percent. 102 00:04:50.040 --> 00:04:54.079 And then sometime in nineteen dickity two, they converted the 103 00:04:54.120 --> 00:04:58.279 attic into the upstairs so all this is the attic 104 00:04:58.399 --> 00:04:58.879 of the house. 105 00:04:58.920 --> 00:04:59.680 I have no attic. 106 00:04:59.800 --> 00:05:03.600 This is static, and they convert it into the upstairs bedroom. 107 00:05:04.519 --> 00:05:07.839 And this is too small to. 108 00:05:07.839 --> 00:05:12.600 Be another bedroom, so it's a it's a closet. 109 00:05:12.639 --> 00:05:17.480 Super hot, fucking lutely, there is no there is no insulation. 110 00:05:17.839 --> 00:05:21.399 It is so hot in the summer it's it's outrageous, 111 00:05:21.560 --> 00:05:23.959 and in the winter it gets pretty freaking cold. It's 112 00:05:24.000 --> 00:05:28.560 not a great space temperature wise, but aesthetically it looks really. 113 00:05:28.519 --> 00:05:32.040 Quite flue house. I creep myself out last night. 114 00:05:32.680 --> 00:05:34.959 I was on Reddit and I forget why I was 115 00:05:34.959 --> 00:05:38.560 looking through like through like a fucking some game. 116 00:05:38.800 --> 00:05:39.480 Oh it was Warframe. 117 00:05:39.480 --> 00:05:41.480 I was on Warframe Reddit, but for some reason, when 118 00:05:41.480 --> 00:05:46.480 I was scrolling past a post on like are supernatural 119 00:05:46.639 --> 00:05:49.399 encounters something like that? Every once in a while I 120 00:05:49.439 --> 00:05:52.600 just peek in because generally speaking, it's clearly I think 121 00:05:52.639 --> 00:05:55.160 it's clearly staged things that people make out to be 122 00:05:55.160 --> 00:05:57.160 supernatural encounters in their home. So to me, it's like 123 00:05:57.160 --> 00:06:00.519 a short story horror engine. I saw one that was creepy, 124 00:06:00.959 --> 00:06:04.560 and a lot of people were saying bringing up stories 125 00:06:04.680 --> 00:06:08.000 about how people, even in like the suburbs or in 126 00:06:08.120 --> 00:06:11.040 certain kinds of houses, discovered that there was someone living 127 00:06:11.079 --> 00:06:14.160 in their attic for like a year or two. I 128 00:06:14.199 --> 00:06:16.920 saw a story about how someone what are they called, like. 129 00:06:16.879 --> 00:06:18.879 Lounge lizards or something. I swear there's. 130 00:06:18.879 --> 00:06:22.040 Lounge a lot lizard is a sex worker in a 131 00:06:22.519 --> 00:06:25.759 tractor trailer parking lots. I think that's what you're thinking of. 132 00:06:25.800 --> 00:06:28.439 Which tracks I mixed them up all the time. 133 00:06:28.879 --> 00:06:31.680 Yeah, But like these people were saying, oh, they would 134 00:06:31.680 --> 00:06:33.800 hear noises at night, and then they would be pretty 135 00:06:33.879 --> 00:06:36.399 positive someone was in their house or something like that, 136 00:06:36.480 --> 00:06:38.560 and then they'd be like, well, you should make sure 137 00:06:38.600 --> 00:06:40.959 all your doors are locked. They have the police come 138 00:06:41.519 --> 00:06:44.240 and one of the policemen asked, if you're there. 139 00:06:44.680 --> 00:06:46.040 They had attic access. 140 00:06:46.680 --> 00:06:50.000 Policemen went up and found like gatoray bottles full of 141 00:06:50.120 --> 00:06:53.759 urine and blankets and like a Coleman lantern. And then 142 00:06:53.759 --> 00:06:55.160 when he went to the outside of the house, he 143 00:06:55.240 --> 00:06:59.439 saw a ventilation hole that was just had the vent 144 00:06:59.519 --> 00:07:01.360 removed and it was near a tree, so they're pretty 145 00:07:01.360 --> 00:07:03.480 sure someone crept up the tree and was like taking 146 00:07:03.959 --> 00:07:07.199 shelter in their attic crawl space for like sear or 147 00:07:07.240 --> 00:07:07.839 something like that. 148 00:07:08.040 --> 00:07:10.319 So like leaving during the day to eat and things 149 00:07:10.319 --> 00:07:13.120 like that and then crawling up there at night to sleep, I. 150 00:07:13.000 --> 00:07:15.160 Guess so or vice versa going out at night to 151 00:07:15.199 --> 00:07:17.199 get fine food somehow and bringing it back during the 152 00:07:17.240 --> 00:07:17.959 day and lying low. 153 00:07:18.360 --> 00:07:19.120 Because there's other ones. 154 00:07:19.199 --> 00:07:21.639 There's creepy photos and like even if many of these 155 00:07:21.680 --> 00:07:24.079 I'm sure are staged, there's ones where people, you know, 156 00:07:24.079 --> 00:07:25.560 in the suburbs, a lot of people have like an 157 00:07:25.600 --> 00:07:28.040 attic above their garage, specifically a crawl space. 158 00:07:28.560 --> 00:07:29.720 There's photos of. 159 00:07:31.439 --> 00:07:34.120 Like one of them had a fridge in the garage 160 00:07:34.399 --> 00:07:38.000 with a couple of boxes on top and then the 161 00:07:38.040 --> 00:07:41.720 attic entry hole. And they said they had never used 162 00:07:41.720 --> 00:07:43.680 the attic since they moved into the house, but there 163 00:07:43.680 --> 00:07:49.480 were like fingerstreaks in the dust on top of the boxes. Yeah, yeah, 164 00:07:49.519 --> 00:07:52.120 which is very creepy. That's infinitely creepier than a ghost. 165 00:07:52.519 --> 00:07:54.600 There was a human being living in my space that 166 00:07:54.639 --> 00:07:55.199 I didn't. 167 00:07:54.959 --> 00:07:57.279 Know about, So yeah, one can actually happen. 168 00:07:57.360 --> 00:07:58.800 So this morning, at like four in the morning. I 169 00:07:59.720 --> 00:08:02.680 duck tape the knife to the end of my broom 170 00:08:02.720 --> 00:08:05.319 and just start poking dark spots in the corner. 171 00:08:07.279 --> 00:08:08.600 In the ceiling, like your. 172 00:08:08.519 --> 00:08:15.839 Cats are like this, these knives the Kingdom weapon. 173 00:08:18.000 --> 00:08:18.519 Someone's like. 174 00:08:21.079 --> 00:08:25.800 This actually stopped. Ye was a very polar person. Oh 175 00:08:25.920 --> 00:08:28.360 this is Oh, I don't like this. Not a fan, 176 00:08:29.279 --> 00:08:30.879 but I don't want But that's what I think about 177 00:08:30.879 --> 00:08:33.279 when I think about addicts now because of that our 178 00:08:33.360 --> 00:08:34.320 supernatural post. 179 00:08:34.600 --> 00:08:36.440 I live in my attic and I don't even pee 180 00:08:36.480 --> 00:08:37.879 in any Gatorade bottles. 181 00:08:38.000 --> 00:08:39.120 You are the attic person. 182 00:08:39.639 --> 00:08:41.240 I am the attic person. 183 00:08:42.600 --> 00:08:43.840 It's a whole family below you. 184 00:08:45.200 --> 00:08:49.480 So wondering why someone's streaming Silk Song at full volume at. 185 00:08:49.320 --> 00:08:51.320 Three in the morning, screaming. 186 00:08:52.799 --> 00:08:55.279 She talks about how much she loves Lion King and 187 00:08:55.399 --> 00:08:57.399 c rtvsstairs. 188 00:08:57.480 --> 00:08:59.720 There's just six CRTs up there and a bunch of 189 00:09:00.120 --> 00:09:02.080 rings in a bunch. 190 00:09:01.799 --> 00:09:07.279 Of bee I pay mortgage as much as I want. 191 00:09:08.440 --> 00:09:10.519 That'd be a sick ruse if you've been paying their 192 00:09:10.559 --> 00:09:12.600 mortgage from their attic and then don't have to do shit. 193 00:09:14.279 --> 00:09:15.759 I don't have to say my attic if they paid 194 00:09:15.759 --> 00:09:16.200 the mortgage. 195 00:09:16.240 --> 00:09:17.320 Oldest grift in the book. 196 00:09:17.919 --> 00:09:21.120 I think if they helped out, I would be open 197 00:09:21.200 --> 00:09:25.720 to it. I would be open to a drifter. 198 00:09:26.320 --> 00:09:28.600 You're just describing a sublease if they're paying part of 199 00:09:28.639 --> 00:09:29.519 the mortgage. 200 00:09:30.039 --> 00:09:32.519 Now I want to do like an illegal For years, 201 00:09:33.159 --> 00:09:35.039 I think we've were onto something here. 202 00:09:35.000 --> 00:09:37.399 Dan, I want to speaking of weirder and more illegal though, 203 00:09:37.759 --> 00:09:38.200 speaking of. 204 00:09:38.200 --> 00:09:42.320 A grift, I watched The Sting from like nineteen seventy 205 00:09:42.320 --> 00:09:45.360 five for the first time recently. It's on Netflix now 206 00:09:45.360 --> 00:09:46.559 and I saw it. I've been I've been mean to 207 00:09:46.559 --> 00:09:48.279 watch that for a while because I watched Butch Cassidy 208 00:09:48.320 --> 00:09:51.720 and The Sundance Kid. Same director, same duo, Paul Newman 209 00:09:51.799 --> 00:09:52.720 and Robert Redford. 210 00:09:52.960 --> 00:09:53.600 It's really good. 211 00:09:54.759 --> 00:09:57.720 It's a It's Chicago like have you guys heard it 212 00:09:57.759 --> 00:10:01.360 reference before? I've heard the I I don't know if 213 00:10:01.399 --> 00:10:06.120 I've ever read this Robert Redford movie. It's referenced often, 214 00:10:07.919 --> 00:10:11.759 so generally speaking, they're trying to pull a big con 215 00:10:11.840 --> 00:10:14.799 on Robert Shaw. So this was what, oh Jaws was 216 00:10:14.879 --> 00:10:18.960 nineteen seventy seventy six. Oh, this was like this was 217 00:10:19.000 --> 00:10:20.840 like right around the same time. I think this was 218 00:10:20.879 --> 00:10:24.360 nineteen seventy five. So Robert Shaw is this New York 219 00:10:24.799 --> 00:10:27.559 gangster essentially who goes out to Chicago and he plays 220 00:10:27.879 --> 00:10:32.279 high stakes poker on the train to Chicago. Robert Redford 221 00:10:32.360 --> 00:10:34.600 is like this younger, up and coming kid trying to 222 00:10:35.440 --> 00:10:37.480 He's like a con man, but he's doing small jobs 223 00:10:38.000 --> 00:10:41.960 and then he ends up pissing off like Robert Shaw's 224 00:10:42.279 --> 00:10:46.000 gang gets into trouble and then for one reason or another, 225 00:10:46.039 --> 00:10:48.240 ends up wanting revenge against Robert Shaw. So he goes 226 00:10:48.279 --> 00:10:50.840 to Paul Newman, who is this famous con man in Chicago, 227 00:10:51.399 --> 00:10:54.440 and they pull this huge It's basically a heist movie, 228 00:10:54.440 --> 00:10:57.799 but it's all about technically not doing anything illegal. They 229 00:10:57.840 --> 00:10:59.440 say that at the beginning, although I'm pretty sure they 230 00:10:59.480 --> 00:11:02.039 do several league things. But they set up this elaborate 231 00:11:02.120 --> 00:11:06.120 wire room. It's it's very Ocean's eleven, but from nineteen 232 00:11:06.159 --> 00:11:07.080 seventy six. 233 00:11:07.159 --> 00:11:10.360 I think I like the like a good seventies heist movie, 234 00:11:10.399 --> 00:11:14.039 like a Thief with Michael Mann. James con Like that 235 00:11:14.159 --> 00:11:16.159 was awesome. This one's I should checked it out. I'm 236 00:11:16.159 --> 00:11:17.559 looking at his letter box now. I don't think I've 237 00:11:17.600 --> 00:11:19.000 ever seen a Robert Redford movie. 238 00:11:19.720 --> 00:11:21.600 This thing is a solid two hours. I will say 239 00:11:21.720 --> 00:11:24.039 it was nineteen seventy six. It was set and I 240 00:11:24.080 --> 00:11:25.200 think the thirties. 241 00:11:26.080 --> 00:11:29.960 He's one of the Avengers, was he really? How fucking 242 00:11:29.960 --> 00:11:31.559 old he's an Avengers end game? 243 00:11:31.679 --> 00:11:31.919 No? 244 00:11:31.919 --> 00:11:34.080 No, it's insane. Yeah, he's an Angy. But he died. 245 00:11:34.120 --> 00:11:35.720 Didn't he die two years ago or something that in 246 00:11:35.799 --> 00:11:39.159 September of last year? September once ago. Yeah, this thing's awesome. 247 00:11:39.440 --> 00:11:40.000 Give it a watch. 248 00:11:40.080 --> 00:11:43.360 Huh. Okay, I did think about watching a Bonca ny 249 00:11:43.440 --> 00:11:46.039 for movie night last week. We're going to watch the 250 00:11:46.120 --> 00:11:48.039 knives Out thing off of what we talked about last week. 251 00:11:48.039 --> 00:11:50.000 We'll wake up Dead now thing. As though we saw 252 00:11:50.039 --> 00:11:51.399 it was like two and a half, it was like 253 00:11:51.399 --> 00:11:53.840 two forty or something. Yeah, sometimes you're not in the 254 00:11:53.840 --> 00:11:55.039 mood for a movie that long, you know. 255 00:11:55.159 --> 00:11:58.919 I agree, there's just no reason for it anymore. 256 00:11:59.480 --> 00:11:59.919 Yeah, we did. 257 00:12:01.519 --> 00:12:03.440 We did part of the bad Lands was like an 258 00:12:03.440 --> 00:12:04.919 hour forty and so we did that instead. 259 00:12:05.240 --> 00:12:05.840 How was that? 260 00:12:06.639 --> 00:12:09.200 I liked the Love Bank did not love it. It 261 00:12:09.320 --> 00:12:11.759 was very stupid and I just think I had to 262 00:12:11.759 --> 00:12:13.039 turn off the part of my brain or it was 263 00:12:13.039 --> 00:12:15.039 like a part of their movie because like nothing like 264 00:12:15.080 --> 00:12:16.759 the part of their always looks cool as fuck, but 265 00:12:16.879 --> 00:12:19.639 like that first one. It's Arnold, it's Carl Weather's, it's 266 00:12:19.720 --> 00:12:22.559 Jesse Ventura. You are not going to match that movie. 267 00:12:22.720 --> 00:12:25.360 So I think it's just unfair to even remotely expect 268 00:12:25.559 --> 00:12:27.480 it to be like the first one at all. So 269 00:12:27.559 --> 00:12:28.919 I just kind of went in like that, and it's 270 00:12:29.039 --> 00:12:32.480 extremely video gaming. It's just like boss fights where you 271 00:12:32.480 --> 00:12:34.720 have to like throw gadgets into weak points, Like you know, 272 00:12:34.720 --> 00:12:36.960 there's literally like big monsters that like open their mouths 273 00:12:37.120 --> 00:12:39.240 and he has to like throw a gadget in before 274 00:12:39.240 --> 00:12:40.879 he closes the mouth because that'll blow him up from 275 00:12:40.879 --> 00:12:44.039 the inside. There's just like an NPC that follows him 276 00:12:44.039 --> 00:12:46.360 around like a robot, and that's who Elle Fanning is. 277 00:12:47.559 --> 00:12:50.600 It's it's just boss fights and Alien plan It's very 278 00:12:50.759 --> 00:12:54.200 Halo campaign that that type of feel to it. So 279 00:12:54.440 --> 00:12:56.440 I thought it was fun. It was stupid, but it was. 280 00:12:56.440 --> 00:12:57.960 Like an action romp. 281 00:12:58.000 --> 00:13:00.679 But it doesn't have any substance and I don't think 282 00:13:00.679 --> 00:13:03.399 you're supposed to learn anything from it, and I certainly 283 00:13:03.480 --> 00:13:06.080 did not. I was kind of laughing at the premise 284 00:13:06.120 --> 00:13:09.120 of it, like it's supposed to be a really serious premise, 285 00:13:10.279 --> 00:13:13.240 am I allowed to say? Like the plots right, like 286 00:13:13.360 --> 00:13:17.480 the premise is that in this movie, the main predator 287 00:13:17.559 --> 00:13:20.720 because that's a race of people whatever they are, and 288 00:13:21.120 --> 00:13:25.759 they are killers and they're all about being the biggest killer. 289 00:13:25.840 --> 00:13:28.919 That's their whole thing. But the main character that we're 290 00:13:28.960 --> 00:13:31.600 following is the runt of his family. 291 00:13:31.960 --> 00:13:33.440 Yeah, and it's block or something. 292 00:13:33.639 --> 00:13:36.519 Yeah, sure, and his older brother is like trying to 293 00:13:36.519 --> 00:13:39.759 get him up to speed, but he's so little that 294 00:13:39.840 --> 00:13:41.879 his dad is like, I'm going to kill him because 295 00:13:41.919 --> 00:13:45.080 he's the weak link, and the brother is like, I 296 00:13:45.159 --> 00:13:47.879 will protect you. And that's kind of the crux of 297 00:13:47.919 --> 00:13:51.279 the whole movie is that, like he's like, I'm going 298 00:13:51.320 --> 00:13:57.559 to prove my dad that I'm not the runts. Yes, 299 00:13:57.600 --> 00:14:02.200 they're all predators, yea, they're all predators with internal. 300 00:14:01.799 --> 00:14:03.159 Family drama and. 301 00:14:05.000 --> 00:14:07.639 They have all these like you know, concerns and issues 302 00:14:07.639 --> 00:14:08.200 with each other. 303 00:14:08.279 --> 00:14:10.399 And this whole time, this the runt. 304 00:14:10.519 --> 00:14:12.000 So now he's like, I'm going to go prove to 305 00:14:12.039 --> 00:14:14.799 my dad that I'm actually a really good predator. He's 306 00:14:14.840 --> 00:14:18.440 like in this new area to take down this really 307 00:14:18.440 --> 00:14:20.320 big boss to prove that he's a good predator. 308 00:14:20.559 --> 00:14:23.840 He keeps making mistakes where I'm like, you know, he 309 00:14:23.960 --> 00:14:26.840 is kind of the weak, runt guy that should die. 310 00:14:27.200 --> 00:14:32.679 He tells his enemies his weaknesses, he gives unnecessary information 311 00:14:33.360 --> 00:14:36.039 to like he is like, I'm really upset with my dad, 312 00:14:36.080 --> 00:14:40.080 and it's like, no predator should be telling random people 313 00:14:40.159 --> 00:14:42.320 about their dad issues. And I was like, this guy 314 00:14:42.519 --> 00:14:45.840 is actually weak, he's actually not very good at being 315 00:14:45.840 --> 00:14:48.200 a predator. And maybe he's like a good character. And 316 00:14:48.200 --> 00:14:50.600 they tried to humanize him and they did that very good. 317 00:14:50.759 --> 00:14:53.840 But as far as the predator goes, that ain't any predator. 318 00:14:53.960 --> 00:14:57.080 I know a predator. I know rips out spines, and 319 00:14:57.120 --> 00:14:58.919 they do do this in this movie. But it's just 320 00:14:59.000 --> 00:15:01.720 not the way I wanted it. So I did not 321 00:15:01.799 --> 00:15:04.960 care for it, but I understand it. I was entertained 322 00:15:04.960 --> 00:15:07.080 by it, but I when the credits rolled, I was like, 323 00:15:07.360 --> 00:15:10.679 it kind of irked me as a as a predator movie. 324 00:15:11.120 --> 00:15:13.120 That guy was not a predator. That guy was a 325 00:15:13.120 --> 00:15:14.639 little whimpy boy who was trying. 326 00:15:14.440 --> 00:15:15.120 To prove himself. 327 00:15:15.320 --> 00:15:18.120 I didn't expect it to be like just predators. It's 328 00:15:18.159 --> 00:15:20.559 like all predators and then like el Fanning, basically she's 329 00:15:20.559 --> 00:15:23.240 a robot and then it's like so it starts out 330 00:15:23.399 --> 00:15:26.279 and it's the whole beginning sequence is pretty long, and 331 00:15:26.279 --> 00:15:28.279 it's just like him and is like the predator, the 332 00:15:28.279 --> 00:15:30.039 good runt predator and his brother. 333 00:15:30.039 --> 00:15:33.120 Like having like a trial by combat thing predator. 334 00:15:34.279 --> 00:15:36.840 They're trying to predator each other and they're like, I'm 335 00:15:36.879 --> 00:15:37.679 the bigger predator. 336 00:15:38.039 --> 00:15:38.240 Yeah. 337 00:15:38.279 --> 00:15:40.240 Yeah, And they're like flying around caves like doing sword 338 00:15:40.240 --> 00:15:41.840 fights and shit like that, and it's just the way 339 00:15:41.919 --> 00:15:45.840 it's just NonStop, just like groupaba like talking and then 340 00:15:45.879 --> 00:15:48.720 like like there are a whole back and forth where's 341 00:15:48.840 --> 00:15:53.120 like the two predators are looking at each other and 342 00:15:53.159 --> 00:15:54.960 it's like at a certain point I turned the box. 343 00:15:55.080 --> 00:15:56.720 I was like, does it feel like there should be 344 00:15:56.799 --> 00:15:59.360 subtitles at this point? It's just like, yeah, this is weird. 345 00:16:00.080 --> 00:16:03.759 It's we're watching on a plex server and it's like 346 00:16:04.080 --> 00:16:06.039 I didn't have it selected, and I turn it on 347 00:16:06.159 --> 00:16:07.559 and I go back and it's like, oh, they're just 348 00:16:07.600 --> 00:16:08.440 explaining the plot. 349 00:16:08.519 --> 00:16:10.879 Okay, watching. 350 00:16:14.240 --> 00:16:18.159 This movie doesn't make any sense. Why are they constantly 351 00:16:18.240 --> 00:16:21.039 talking to each other. We can't understand what they're saying. 352 00:16:22.200 --> 00:16:23.879 And you're watching a French film? 353 00:16:24.320 --> 00:16:26.000 Yeah you know what you thinking about it? 354 00:16:26.279 --> 00:16:29.240 I have I never know if I've seen any movies 355 00:16:29.279 --> 00:16:30.879 with subtitles, and now I can say. 356 00:16:30.720 --> 00:16:33.600 I have Yeah, I'm proud of you. Yeah that progress. 357 00:16:35.039 --> 00:16:37.159 Yeah, yeah, I got the other ones. 358 00:16:37.480 --> 00:16:39.519 I think you probably you probably saw eight and a 359 00:16:39.559 --> 00:16:45.159 half a thousand blows, one hundred blows if you probably 360 00:16:45.159 --> 00:16:47.080 saw a lot of trufau movies back in the day. 361 00:16:47.159 --> 00:16:50.759 What about that movie that everybody uh talked about? 362 00:16:52.399 --> 00:16:54.679 I'm looking at most famous movies with subtitles. 363 00:16:55.080 --> 00:16:55.559 Yeah. 364 00:16:55.799 --> 00:16:59.799 Look, I didn't go to film school. Yes, what movie 365 00:16:59.799 --> 00:17:00.759 are you mary? 366 00:17:01.279 --> 00:17:03.159 Oh, Parasite, Parasite. 367 00:17:03.279 --> 00:17:04.440 I said it's great. 368 00:17:04.519 --> 00:17:07.279 I did see Parasite, Okay, I've seen seven Samurai, I 369 00:17:07.359 --> 00:17:10.240 saw Rachaman. Okay, So I guess I've seen some well 370 00:17:10.240 --> 00:17:14.319 I might a dubbed those. But Godzilla, yeah, I fell 371 00:17:14.319 --> 00:17:16.279 asleep in that, and I don't really count that for 372 00:17:16.359 --> 00:17:16.720 seeing it. 373 00:17:17.880 --> 00:17:19.160 I liked Godzilla. 374 00:17:19.680 --> 00:17:20.480 I heard it was good. 375 00:17:20.720 --> 00:17:23.839 Speaking of Wake Up Dad Man, I think that very 376 00:17:23.839 --> 00:17:27.000 well might have been my favorite movie at twenty twenty five. 377 00:17:27.720 --> 00:17:31.240 Really, yeah, number one for really, thanks Mike. 378 00:17:31.480 --> 00:17:34.480 I'm I'm trying to transition. I actually did think it 379 00:17:34.519 --> 00:17:35.920 was my favorite movie. 380 00:17:35.319 --> 00:17:36.920 I appreciate that. 381 00:17:37.200 --> 00:17:39.559 I think it would be fun to think of our 382 00:17:40.279 --> 00:17:45.279 favorite twenty twenty five movies because my coworkers did this 383 00:17:45.720 --> 00:17:49.000 and I heard a movie that I had never heard of, 384 00:17:49.200 --> 00:17:51.640 Like I was like, oh, why is this on everybody's list? 385 00:17:51.640 --> 00:17:52.440 I should watch it? 386 00:17:53.480 --> 00:17:55.920 And so I watched it, and now it's my favorite 387 00:17:55.960 --> 00:17:57.240 movie of twenty twenty five. 388 00:17:57.400 --> 00:17:58.240 What is it? What it is called? 389 00:17:59.079 --> 00:17:59.839 Train Dream? 390 00:18:00.640 --> 00:18:05.160 Yeah, the book's one of my favorite top five books 391 00:18:05.160 --> 00:18:05.640 of all time. 392 00:18:06.279 --> 00:18:07.119 It is gutting. 393 00:18:07.759 --> 00:18:10.759 I was walking my dog the other day and thought 394 00:18:10.799 --> 00:18:12.039 about it and started crying. 395 00:18:12.359 --> 00:18:14.599 Joel Edgerton, William H. Macy. 396 00:18:14.920 --> 00:18:18.799 But the so it's it's based on a novella, like literally, 397 00:18:18.839 --> 00:18:21.640 I think it's like one hundred and two pages about 398 00:18:21.839 --> 00:18:25.440 a guy who's like working on the railroad during the 399 00:18:25.440 --> 00:18:28.039 expansionist era of America and he's in the woods. He 400 00:18:28.039 --> 00:18:31.519 starts doing some lumber work, but generally speaking, some shit 401 00:18:31.640 --> 00:18:35.640 happens to him, and the book is just about how 402 00:18:35.680 --> 00:18:36.400 he's reacting to it. 403 00:18:36.440 --> 00:18:37.359 But yeah, it's gorgeous. 404 00:18:37.599 --> 00:18:41.720 It's like beautifully shot and it doesn't take itself too seriously. 405 00:18:41.720 --> 00:18:45.640 It's just beautiful, beautiful cinematic shots of a dude living 406 00:18:45.640 --> 00:18:46.160 his life. 407 00:18:46.240 --> 00:18:50.079 Nothing crazy happens. This is not like a wild film. 408 00:18:50.119 --> 00:18:53.160 I would think that most people possibly you Dan would 409 00:18:53.160 --> 00:18:54.240 say this movie is boring. 410 00:18:54.599 --> 00:18:58.599 And I cannot tell you how much this film moved me. 411 00:18:58.920 --> 00:19:01.519 I was, I was just blown away by it. It 412 00:19:01.640 --> 00:19:02.319 consumes me. 413 00:19:02.400 --> 00:19:05.200 I thought about it all night and all the next day, 414 00:19:05.559 --> 00:19:07.279 and I like can't stop thinking about it. 415 00:19:07.480 --> 00:19:09.559 I mean, if it's good, I'm fine with slow paced 416 00:19:09.559 --> 00:19:11.039 and like, you know, because I saw that so many 417 00:19:11.039 --> 00:19:13.920 people were complaining about Pluribus being such a slow burn, 418 00:19:14.000 --> 00:19:16.119 and it's like, I fucking loved that season of pluribis. 419 00:19:16.240 --> 00:19:17.640 So it's like, I can take a slow burn if 420 00:19:17.680 --> 00:19:18.759 I'm end of the story. 421 00:19:18.839 --> 00:19:19.000 You know. 422 00:19:19.400 --> 00:19:22.480 I just thought it was phenomenal, Like what a cool 423 00:19:22.799 --> 00:19:26.480 snapshot of like an average dude's life back then, Like 424 00:19:26.480 --> 00:19:28.559 he's not dreams. 425 00:19:28.759 --> 00:19:30.759 Yeah, Train, it's a Netflix. 426 00:19:31.079 --> 00:19:34.839 Netflix like produced it, which is crazy crazy Netflix produces 427 00:19:34.839 --> 00:19:36.440 a lot. But yeah, that's definitely not the type of 428 00:19:36.480 --> 00:19:38.119 movie I would expect Netflix to produce. 429 00:19:38.359 --> 00:19:39.400 Sure, but no. 430 00:19:39.519 --> 00:19:42.599 The book, Dennis Johnson wrote, the book is incredible. Like 431 00:19:42.680 --> 00:19:45.240 you you if you both have like a weekend and 432 00:19:45.240 --> 00:19:47.119 want to read something. It's one hundred and two pages. 433 00:19:47.119 --> 00:19:49.599 You can get through it quickly. It's literally like an 434 00:19:49.599 --> 00:19:50.759 actual small book too. 435 00:19:51.519 --> 00:19:51.640 Uh. 436 00:19:51.759 --> 00:19:53.720 It won the Poetry that year, but which was kind 437 00:19:53.720 --> 00:19:57.240 of contentious because it was not like sweeping work of 438 00:19:57.319 --> 00:19:59.440 literature that was winning it in years previous. 439 00:19:59.519 --> 00:20:03.799 But it's really really good. Nice Yeah, Trained Dreams. 440 00:20:03.960 --> 00:20:05.440 So that's your number one, Mary. 441 00:20:05.359 --> 00:20:06.440 That's my number one. 442 00:20:06.559 --> 00:20:09.839 And I didn't expect it, and it just shocked me 443 00:20:10.200 --> 00:20:12.319 that it was just randomly on a couple of my 444 00:20:12.400 --> 00:20:14.519 peers lists, and I was like, I guess I should 445 00:20:14.519 --> 00:20:16.599 see it, and I was like, holy shit. It's kind 446 00:20:16.640 --> 00:20:18.240 of like one of those things where like if enough 447 00:20:18.279 --> 00:20:21.519 people say to you you have to see this film, 448 00:20:21.599 --> 00:20:24.480 you're gonna watch it because everybody's talking about it. But 449 00:20:24.640 --> 00:20:28.599 it was just in like five of my peers top tens. 450 00:20:28.839 --> 00:20:32.720 So that is on my Yes, it is my I 451 00:20:32.759 --> 00:20:35.640 think it is my favorite movie. I would absolutely put 452 00:20:35.680 --> 00:20:37.359 it in my top five, and so I was just 453 00:20:37.400 --> 00:20:40.839 curious what you guys think. It doesn't have to be listical, 454 00:20:41.359 --> 00:20:43.680 but what you think would definitely make your top five. 455 00:20:44.319 --> 00:20:46.279 I put mine here and I'm not going to count 456 00:20:46.359 --> 00:20:47.960 Naked Gun because I've already talked about that a ton 457 00:20:48.000 --> 00:20:50.359 and I did watch it six times this year, Naked Gun, 458 00:20:50.400 --> 00:20:53.519 So like, I feel like my recommendation for Naked Gun 459 00:20:53.599 --> 00:20:56.160 is firmly established at this point. Yes, we know the 460 00:20:56.200 --> 00:20:57.880 five that I thought of here, and none of these 461 00:20:57.920 --> 00:21:00.000 are like it's super deep cut. I think everyone loved 462 00:21:00.079 --> 00:21:05.720 these centers. Weapons. I thought Bogonia was fucking awesome one 463 00:21:05.759 --> 00:21:08.480 battle after another, and warfare warfare was and what I 464 00:21:08.559 --> 00:21:13.599 talked about before about that Iraq mission. Yeah, yeah, those right, 465 00:21:13.680 --> 00:21:14.720 I loved all five of those. 466 00:21:15.400 --> 00:21:18.519 Yeah, I'm I don't I haven't ranked them, but I 467 00:21:18.559 --> 00:21:22.279 would say I'm Wake Up dead Man, Sinners, one battle 468 00:21:22.319 --> 00:21:22.799 after another. 469 00:21:22.920 --> 00:21:28.200 Weapons. I don't know what my fifth would be. I'm 470 00:21:28.200 --> 00:21:28.480 not sure. 471 00:21:28.519 --> 00:21:30.799 I need to look up look at the list, but yeah, 472 00:21:31.119 --> 00:21:36.680 Sinners was fucking awesome. Yeah I loved weapons like saw 473 00:21:36.799 --> 00:21:37.640 weapons twice. 474 00:21:38.119 --> 00:21:40.359 But yeah, I don't know. 475 00:21:40.440 --> 00:21:42.440 For those who are on the fence about watching Wake 476 00:21:42.519 --> 00:21:44.640 Up dead Man, I had watched it and I told 477 00:21:44.640 --> 00:21:47.079 you guys about it, and then I went back to 478 00:21:47.119 --> 00:21:50.599 watch Knives Out and glass Onion and I made the 479 00:21:50.720 --> 00:21:53.079 joke about I made the joke. But like that many 480 00:21:53.119 --> 00:21:54.960 people have made about Ryan Johnson, it just about like 481 00:21:55.000 --> 00:22:00.000 his his movies sometimes like he's obviously like pretty left 482 00:22:00.319 --> 00:22:03.599 leaning in his movies, often with his characters often are 483 00:22:03.839 --> 00:22:04.559 the good characters. 484 00:22:04.640 --> 00:22:05.200 Quote unquote. 485 00:22:05.599 --> 00:22:09.160 I think I like Wake Up dead Man because whereas 486 00:22:09.200 --> 00:22:14.400 glass Onion especially felt like it was just very on 487 00:22:14.519 --> 00:22:16.799 the nose every step of the way, with like billionaires 488 00:22:16.799 --> 00:22:19.119 are stupid and bad, It's like, yes, we get it, 489 00:22:19.200 --> 00:22:21.359 like I get it. It felt like the whole movie 490 00:22:21.440 --> 00:22:24.160 for me. And I'm being reductive obviously, but Wake Up 491 00:22:24.200 --> 00:22:27.799 dead Man hit me very hard. I will definitely say 492 00:22:27.960 --> 00:22:30.000 I don't expect it to hit everybody the same way, 493 00:22:30.039 --> 00:22:31.880 because on one level, it's a very good who done it. 494 00:22:31.960 --> 00:22:34.680 I think in a small town at a small town 495 00:22:34.880 --> 00:22:37.839 church and its community in central New York, but having 496 00:22:37.880 --> 00:22:42.920 grown up Catholic and now being an atheist, like being 497 00:22:43.000 --> 00:22:46.359 laps Catholic for much of my life, I this movie 498 00:22:46.440 --> 00:22:48.000 hit me in a way I did not expect where 499 00:22:48.119 --> 00:22:50.839 Ben wi Blanc, Daniel Craig's chacter goes into it as 500 00:22:50.839 --> 00:22:54.240 an atheist who was born in the South to hardcore 501 00:22:54.279 --> 00:22:56.759 religious parents, and he's gay, so he's got reasons to 502 00:22:56.799 --> 00:23:01.279 be very anti religious. Josh O'Connor as Fathered Judd. Holy shit, 503 00:23:01.400 --> 00:23:03.960 do you guys know Josh O'Connors. He was in Challengers, 504 00:23:05.400 --> 00:23:07.799 the tennis movie he was in. I think he's in 505 00:23:07.839 --> 00:23:10.680 the Crown at some point him as Father Judd was 506 00:23:10.720 --> 00:23:13.559 one of my favorite characters this year outside of Michael B. 507 00:23:13.640 --> 00:23:17.720 Jordan as the two brothers. Holy shit, it's really I 508 00:23:17.759 --> 00:23:21.359 think a lot of people, like a lot of like 509 00:23:21.680 --> 00:23:23.319 right wing circles are looking to be like, oh, it's 510 00:23:23.319 --> 00:23:25.880 super anti religious. Like if you watch the movie, they 511 00:23:25.920 --> 00:23:28.480 actually have like really good back and forth and question 512 00:23:28.640 --> 00:23:31.200 what faith is and what belief is in the modern era. 513 00:23:31.440 --> 00:23:34.759 There's a character who's basically trying to fire up a 514 00:23:34.799 --> 00:23:38.079 YouTube channel about this priest to his very fire In Brimstone, 515 00:23:38.839 --> 00:23:43.400 it's still very on the nose about today's general sphere, 516 00:23:43.519 --> 00:23:47.359 but it's not as obvious because it's all condensed in 517 00:23:47.400 --> 00:23:50.599 this small town Lens. Thomas Hayden Church is in it. 518 00:23:50.839 --> 00:23:54.759 What's her name? Glenn Close is fucking unreal and she 519 00:23:54.799 --> 00:23:59.279 plays his character Martha Jeremy Renner. It's stacked the word 520 00:23:59.480 --> 00:24:03.440 Josh bur Josh Brolin's amazing, He's hilarious. It's about these 521 00:24:03.480 --> 00:24:06.240 two priests who go head to head over like control 522 00:24:06.319 --> 00:24:08.119 this church. Then Ben wi Blanc comes in when there's 523 00:24:08.119 --> 00:24:11.480 a murder, and the entire movie is just kind of 524 00:24:11.519 --> 00:24:15.119 going back and forth about what faith and religion means 525 00:24:15.119 --> 00:24:17.559 to this small town, what it meant to each priest individually, 526 00:24:17.640 --> 00:24:20.240 how it affected Ben wa Blanc. But it's also really 527 00:24:20.279 --> 00:24:23.240 fucking funny and lighthearted at points. I will say there's 528 00:24:23.279 --> 00:24:25.880 one major miscast that the Internet has pointed out that 529 00:24:25.920 --> 00:24:28.279 I tend to agree with, and really, I don't want. 530 00:24:28.200 --> 00:24:30.519 Exactly who you're gonna say, I know it is. It's 531 00:24:30.519 --> 00:24:32.880 me Lacunis. Yeah, that's the fucking cop because she's a 532 00:24:32.920 --> 00:24:33.680 shit actress. 533 00:24:34.759 --> 00:24:36.160 Yeah, I will say. 534 00:24:36.640 --> 00:24:39.200 Literally, when this movie was happening, I was like, what 535 00:24:39.359 --> 00:24:41.000 a weird way to deliver. 536 00:24:40.799 --> 00:24:43.839 That line, and I just thought it go. Yeah. 537 00:24:43.359 --> 00:24:45.960 I didn't think I saw Sorry. I thought we talked. 538 00:24:45.759 --> 00:24:48.319 About it last episode, and I was like, listening to 539 00:24:48.359 --> 00:24:50.640 you talk about it most of the time. I think 540 00:24:50.759 --> 00:24:52.920 you're passionate, like comes through when you want to talk 541 00:24:52.920 --> 00:24:53.359 about this. 542 00:24:54.240 --> 00:24:55.839 I think it's a good movie. I don't feel as 543 00:24:55.880 --> 00:24:57.039 strongly as you do about. 544 00:24:56.799 --> 00:24:58.839 It, for sure. I don't expect it to everybody, but 545 00:24:58.880 --> 00:24:59.960 I neilaus Is. 546 00:24:59.880 --> 00:25:03.599 Like she's not good. No, if she's ever been good. 547 00:25:04.160 --> 00:25:06.200 I liked her in some things, like I liked. 548 00:25:06.039 --> 00:25:08.119 Her as a result of this. 549 00:25:08.880 --> 00:25:12.759 I don't think the role itself was doing her any favorites. 550 00:25:13.599 --> 00:25:15.839 Very weird cast, Yeah, I don't. 551 00:25:15.960 --> 00:25:18.640 I think it was a that cast was weird for her, 552 00:25:18.680 --> 00:25:20.599 but I think everything else worked. A lot of people 553 00:25:21.079 --> 00:25:23.519 were thrown off that these huge stars were just these 554 00:25:23.559 --> 00:25:25.079 like people of interest in the case. And like, I 555 00:25:25.079 --> 00:25:28.759 think it works because in any other movie, if you 556 00:25:28.799 --> 00:25:30.759 had one star as a suspect, you'd know you'd be 557 00:25:30.839 --> 00:25:33.640 kind of leaning toward them for the as the culprit. 558 00:25:33.680 --> 00:25:35.279 But I think it worked here that many of them 559 00:25:35.319 --> 00:25:37.720 were just on the same playing field. 560 00:25:37.480 --> 00:25:39.079 So to speak. But yeah, I like that movie quite 561 00:25:39.079 --> 00:25:40.200 a bit. But Centers is awesome. 562 00:25:41.160 --> 00:25:43.960 I want to come around on Mela Kunis American Psycho too, 563 00:25:44.000 --> 00:25:45.599 where she plays the American psycho. 564 00:25:46.400 --> 00:25:48.160 I don't know if that's gonna win me over. 565 00:25:48.200 --> 00:25:53.920 It's incredible, Like, it's absolutely terrible, but it's worth watching. 566 00:25:54.079 --> 00:25:55.640 I don't understand what you mean. 567 00:25:56.240 --> 00:25:58.039 I mean, it's I'm just so happy I watched it 568 00:25:58.039 --> 00:26:00.000 because it's one of the worst fucking things I've ever 569 00:26:00.359 --> 00:26:01.599 and like a lot of people don't even know they 570 00:26:01.680 --> 00:26:04.880 made an American American psycho to all American girls starring. 571 00:26:06.640 --> 00:26:11.400 Interesting, she's just a murder various reasons. Does she kill people. 572 00:26:11.920 --> 00:26:16.160 Yes, she's an American psycho. Ooh, William Shatner's also what 573 00:26:16.200 --> 00:26:16.680 the fuck? 574 00:26:17.000 --> 00:26:21.640 It's a really fucking weird movie. Yes, but yeah, one 575 00:26:21.640 --> 00:26:23.240 battle after another also phenomenal. 576 00:26:23.680 --> 00:26:25.079 That one's really good for me. 577 00:26:26.039 --> 00:26:28.119 One that I think i'd put on my list is 578 00:26:28.160 --> 00:26:31.960 twenty eight Years Later, which is like a very odd film, 579 00:26:32.000 --> 00:26:34.240 but I liked it, and I like that it did 580 00:26:34.359 --> 00:26:37.880 some pretty weird risks, and yeah, walked away being like 581 00:26:38.039 --> 00:26:39.720 I liked it even though it was weird. 582 00:26:40.039 --> 00:26:43.000 I'm moderately curious about seeing the sequel that's coming out soon. 583 00:26:43.119 --> 00:26:44.880 I might wait for streaming for that one. But I 584 00:26:44.880 --> 00:26:47.279 didn't join. That was the first the twenty eight whatever 585 00:26:47.400 --> 00:26:49.319 so that I saw, and yeah, I liked it. 586 00:26:49.759 --> 00:26:51.559 Yeah, and you got to put at least one horror 587 00:26:51.599 --> 00:26:52.319 on there for me. 588 00:26:53.079 --> 00:26:55.000 Did did you? Not? Was Weapons not on yours? 589 00:26:55.359 --> 00:26:57.279 Weapons is on mine as well? 590 00:26:57.400 --> 00:27:01.559 Yes, only not a horror person at all, But like Weapons, 591 00:27:01.640 --> 00:27:04.480 I was just enamored by one. 592 00:27:04.319 --> 00:27:06.400 Of the best endings to any movie this year. I 593 00:27:06.440 --> 00:27:07.079 think Weapons. 594 00:27:07.079 --> 00:27:09.200 Its fantastic. Oh God, I was cracking out. 595 00:27:09.279 --> 00:27:12.160 Yeah, it was like every emotion possible in one sequence. 596 00:27:12.960 --> 00:27:15.480 It was crazy, it was cathartic, it was terrifying. It 597 00:27:15.559 --> 00:27:17.480 was hilarious and. 598 00:27:17.440 --> 00:27:19.880 A scene that really makes you want a hot dog. 599 00:27:20.079 --> 00:27:22.599 I mean, there are these two guys getting ready to 600 00:27:22.680 --> 00:27:26.440 watch TV and they have hot dog trays ready to 601 00:27:26.480 --> 00:27:30.799 go with and I was like, I gotta get a 602 00:27:30.799 --> 00:27:34.400 hot dog. I've never had a hot dog be sold 603 00:27:34.440 --> 00:27:35.119 to me like that. 604 00:27:35.160 --> 00:27:38.160 Fella Daddy says, I got to get my dog on. 605 00:27:38.880 --> 00:27:42.400 I loved it. He's like dancing as he's walking. 606 00:27:42.079 --> 00:27:42.319 To the. 607 00:27:44.599 --> 00:27:45.519 Noises with the hot dog. 608 00:27:46.559 --> 00:27:46.960 That's me. 609 00:27:47.440 --> 00:27:50.279 That is like, that is the life I have asked 610 00:27:50.319 --> 00:27:51.400 for for myself. 611 00:27:52.279 --> 00:27:53.400 They did not come out this year. 612 00:27:53.920 --> 00:27:56.880 I will say I showed Amanda in Bruges and Banshees 613 00:27:56.880 --> 00:27:58.119 of in a sheer in for the first time. 614 00:27:58.160 --> 00:28:02.240 Did you see both? I would say in Bruges many 615 00:28:02.319 --> 00:28:04.319 the jokes it's the same. 616 00:28:04.680 --> 00:28:08.400 Yeah, it's so Martin McDonough who he also directed Three 617 00:28:08.400 --> 00:28:11.519 Billboards Outside of Evan, Missouri, which is way more contentious. 618 00:28:12.079 --> 00:28:13.079 I remember liking that. 619 00:28:13.319 --> 00:28:14.119 I liked it too. 620 00:28:14.200 --> 00:28:16.079 I'm sure there will be people jumping into the comments 621 00:28:16.079 --> 00:28:17.759 to tell me I'm wrong for liking that movie on 622 00:28:17.799 --> 00:28:18.319 any level. 623 00:28:18.319 --> 00:28:20.519 But I thought Franks McDormand was awesome in that she. 624 00:28:20.519 --> 00:28:21.880 Was awesome Yeah. 625 00:28:22.000 --> 00:28:25.640 A lot of people criticized uh Martin McDonough for trying 626 00:28:25.640 --> 00:28:29.599 to tackle that subject matter. But in Bruges and ban 627 00:28:29.640 --> 00:28:31.759 She's have been a Sharon. Both are Brendan Glees and 628 00:28:31.799 --> 00:28:35.799 Colin Farrell just having this like buddy movie with many 629 00:28:35.880 --> 00:28:38.799 layers beneath the surface. In Bruges, many of the jokes 630 00:28:38.799 --> 00:28:42.559 have not aged well whatsoever. It's still I think a 631 00:28:42.559 --> 00:28:46.000 really good movie. She's a Sharon is still a fucking masterpiece. 632 00:28:46.039 --> 00:28:49.200 I do not ever use that word. I will will 633 00:28:49.200 --> 00:28:51.599 probably say it for like two pta movies. I would 634 00:28:51.599 --> 00:28:52.039 say that. 635 00:28:52.000 --> 00:28:56.480 For Uh there will be blood. 636 00:28:58.599 --> 00:29:00.079 I like there will be blood quite a bit. I 637 00:29:00.079 --> 00:29:02.880 would say that's one of them, along with like Boogie Nights. 638 00:29:02.920 --> 00:29:04.680 Probably I like a lot of his movies, but those 639 00:29:04.720 --> 00:29:06.319 two are just genuine masterpieces. 640 00:29:06.319 --> 00:29:07.519 Where do you land on Magnolia? 641 00:29:08.200 --> 00:29:12.400 I like Magnolia. I know I hate it. Yeah, no, yeah, 642 00:29:12.519 --> 00:29:13.279 I get it. 643 00:29:13.680 --> 00:29:17.480 Any that's like my I'm a I'm definitely a weirdo 644 00:29:17.559 --> 00:29:18.799 for really liking that movie. 645 00:29:19.440 --> 00:29:22.359 I liked Magnolia. I think I can't. I don't know 646 00:29:22.400 --> 00:29:24.759 if it would pass the test of time. It's been like. 647 00:29:24.759 --> 00:29:26.920 Ten years, yeah, bank and I just know it's been 648 00:29:27.200 --> 00:29:30.519 way longer than that, like twenty five years. 649 00:29:30.559 --> 00:29:32.359 Come on, it's been like ten years. 650 00:29:32.519 --> 00:29:37.400 It's been twenty five years. 651 00:29:37.519 --> 00:29:39.920 I'm still not used to being on college life is 652 00:29:39.960 --> 00:29:40.440 so weird. 653 00:29:41.039 --> 00:29:43.720 I mean, there will be Blood was like eighteen years ago. 654 00:29:43.960 --> 00:29:45.079 Twenties it's hard. 655 00:29:45.400 --> 00:29:46.880 Yeah, there will be blood was on nine. 656 00:29:47.279 --> 00:29:49.200 What are we gonna do with our lives? Guys? 657 00:29:49.920 --> 00:29:51.640 I love Fantom Thread in The Master as well. 658 00:29:51.680 --> 00:29:54.559 The Masters was a waiter, so I need to see 659 00:29:54.680 --> 00:29:56.400 I haven't seen either of those. There's the Pta ones. 660 00:29:56.400 --> 00:29:57.240 I haven't seen it. 661 00:29:57.480 --> 00:29:58.559 I didn't. I didn't want to see. 662 00:29:58.440 --> 00:30:00.279 Fanom Thread because it's about like fashion or ever, and 663 00:30:00.279 --> 00:30:01.119 that sounds super boring. 664 00:30:01.160 --> 00:30:02.000 But I've heard it's so good. 665 00:30:02.480 --> 00:30:05.759 It's about fashion in the way that one battle after 666 00:30:05.799 --> 00:30:08.000 another is about a rebel group. 667 00:30:08.079 --> 00:30:08.920 Now that sounds cooler. 668 00:30:11.400 --> 00:30:14.920 It's about fashion in the way that I'm trying to 669 00:30:14.920 --> 00:30:20.039 think of movies you've watched recently that Naked Guns. That 670 00:30:20.119 --> 00:30:22.400 Naked Gun is about the actual case. 671 00:30:23.440 --> 00:30:25.920 Okay, it's just it's just an air. But I still 672 00:30:25.920 --> 00:30:27.559 don't think you're gonna like Phantom time for what. 673 00:30:27.759 --> 00:30:30.039 I love Daniel day Lewis. I think The Master is 674 00:30:30.079 --> 00:30:33.759 first on my list. Of pta stuff. Oh, first time 675 00:30:33.839 --> 00:30:36.119 to see I haven't changed, Josha. 676 00:30:36.279 --> 00:30:39.680 That is, honestly, I think one of my top five 677 00:30:39.759 --> 00:30:40.559 movies of all time. 678 00:30:40.680 --> 00:30:42.799 I love The Master Past. 679 00:30:43.519 --> 00:30:45.920 It's UH that came out when I was that game former. 680 00:30:45.960 --> 00:30:48.160 I remember you all a bunch of like Ben Hansen. 681 00:30:48.160 --> 00:30:49.759 I think Tim Terry came into the office the day 682 00:30:49.799 --> 00:30:51.559 after seeing it and we're talking about it, and it 683 00:30:51.599 --> 00:30:53.599 was very I think people are split on it, but 684 00:30:53.640 --> 00:30:55.599 I think these days people are looking back on it 685 00:30:55.680 --> 00:31:01.599 with UH with in better Lightjaqen Phoenix. Obviously, people talk 686 00:31:01.599 --> 00:31:04.319 about Phillip Seymour Hoffman's performance and it's you know, he 687 00:31:04.400 --> 00:31:06.640 rightfully gets his flowers, but oh my god, I think 688 00:31:06.640 --> 00:31:09.839 people forget how unreal Joaquin Phoenix was in it as well. 689 00:31:10.319 --> 00:31:13.359 Amy Adams is really good, but Joaquin just fucking like 690 00:31:13.440 --> 00:31:16.640 becomes a different person. To be cliched about it. 691 00:31:17.079 --> 00:31:18.920 I think those might be the only way he did. 692 00:31:19.160 --> 00:31:20.039 Was it inherent vice? 693 00:31:20.720 --> 00:31:21.160 Yeah? 694 00:31:21.200 --> 00:31:22.839 I didn't see that either, So maybe there's a few 695 00:31:22.839 --> 00:31:24.759 of his that I have seen. Liquors Pizza I didn't see, 696 00:31:24.759 --> 00:31:26.839 so a lot of the more recent ones I haven't seen. 697 00:31:27.440 --> 00:31:31.960 And hair Advice was after The Master but before phantom thread. 698 00:31:32.039 --> 00:31:36.599 I believe okay or no, no, no, I'm yeah, yeah, yeah, 699 00:31:36.640 --> 00:31:39.240 I believe that's the case. And hair advice is tough. 700 00:31:39.319 --> 00:31:41.279 I will say I think I got when I was 701 00:31:41.519 --> 00:31:43.119 reading all those books when I lived in New York 702 00:31:43.119 --> 00:31:45.680 and you were constantly recommending books to me, which is fun. 703 00:31:45.720 --> 00:31:47.440 I like that a lot. I think I just started 704 00:31:47.559 --> 00:31:49.480 in hair advice not knowing anything about it, and I 705 00:31:49.480 --> 00:31:51.240 was like, this is a lot. 706 00:31:51.519 --> 00:31:52.200 I don't know about this. 707 00:31:52.359 --> 00:31:55.000 I did not bar in it any Thomas Pinsion book. 708 00:31:55.039 --> 00:31:58.319 That's probably the correct response. I like his stuff, but 709 00:31:58.519 --> 00:32:00.039 I will be the first to admit I don't. And 710 00:32:00.200 --> 00:32:02.240 he knows what he's doing half the time, and people 711 00:32:02.960 --> 00:32:06.759 glaze him for it. His books are his books are odd? 712 00:32:07.200 --> 00:32:08.160 Yeah, I did not do it. 713 00:32:08.920 --> 00:32:10.559 I like crying of Flat forty nine. 714 00:32:12.119 --> 00:32:14.640 You have more substance in twenty twenty six. I don't 715 00:32:14.759 --> 00:32:17.440 want the things that I watch to be so vague 716 00:32:17.480 --> 00:32:18.319 that everyone. 717 00:32:18.039 --> 00:32:20.400 Leaves and goes, what was that about? That's brilliant. I 718 00:32:20.440 --> 00:32:23.000 want to be like, tell me what to think. I 719 00:32:23.079 --> 00:32:24.400 want to know how to feel. 720 00:32:24.920 --> 00:32:27.640 I don't want it to be like sotose that I'm 721 00:32:27.680 --> 00:32:30.720 like supposed to solve this riddle all the time. 722 00:32:31.240 --> 00:32:33.720 Is this are you venting about a specific movie? 723 00:32:34.200 --> 00:32:37.279 I'm venting very vaguely. 724 00:32:37.319 --> 00:32:40.400 About symbolism and metaphor. 725 00:32:40.279 --> 00:32:43.000 Symbolism, symbolism, symbolism. 726 00:32:43.400 --> 00:32:47.720 The TV show Severance, which is like too vague answered 727 00:32:47.799 --> 00:32:50.240 any questions, and I am over it. 728 00:32:51.799 --> 00:32:54.440 What's going on? I've what's up with the goats? 729 00:32:54.599 --> 00:32:55.440 I don't interesting. 730 00:32:55.480 --> 00:32:57.200 I don't want to play this game anymore. You know 731 00:32:57.200 --> 00:32:59.720 what's coming out in twenty twenty six that will answer 732 00:32:59.720 --> 00:33:00.559 all the questions. 733 00:33:00.799 --> 00:33:06.079 Season three of seven's Terrifier for Oh, I love the 734 00:33:06.119 --> 00:33:10.079 story that you told me Dan, where someone had it on. 735 00:33:10.680 --> 00:33:12.119 I want to say something. I know who it was. 736 00:33:12.160 --> 00:33:15.640 You know it was at their party. It is such 737 00:33:15.680 --> 00:33:17.960 an over the top horror movie to have playing in 738 00:33:18.000 --> 00:33:20.359 the middle of a social scene. When he's just sawing 739 00:33:20.440 --> 00:33:22.839 someone through there, I think. 740 00:33:22.720 --> 00:33:24.759 Yeah, I think I hadn't. I think he might not 741 00:33:24.839 --> 00:33:26.559 have seen it or somebody. I've talked to him about 742 00:33:26.559 --> 00:33:27.480 it and he was like, yeah, I don't know it 743 00:33:27.519 --> 00:33:28.440 was gonna be that much. 744 00:33:28.559 --> 00:33:31.400 That's a that's like an I think you should leave 745 00:33:31.440 --> 00:33:33.000 sketch like he puts on a movie, and then he 746 00:33:33.039 --> 00:33:34.640 has to try to act like he had seen it 747 00:33:34.640 --> 00:33:36.960 before he's like, oh, it's funny. 748 00:33:36.400 --> 00:33:38.960 Last I think it was when Ben Hansen's like then 749 00:33:39.359 --> 00:33:42.000 eighteen month old son was there to dressed as Batman 750 00:33:42.039 --> 00:33:43.119 and just Terrifier. 751 00:33:45.839 --> 00:33:47.440 Something I think I want to say. 752 00:33:47.440 --> 00:33:49.599 We were posing for a photo, like a friend photo, 753 00:33:49.640 --> 00:33:50.799 and I kept looking like, what. 754 00:33:50.720 --> 00:33:56.200 The is that? That's fucking that's amazing. Yeah, Terrifier is 755 00:33:56.200 --> 00:33:59.200 fucked up. I think I have learned this year that 756 00:33:59.359 --> 00:34:00.400 like horror. 757 00:34:00.400 --> 00:34:02.000 I used to say that I was not a horror 758 00:34:02.039 --> 00:34:06.440 guy at all, and I think I'm gonna review that 759 00:34:06.480 --> 00:34:08.679 thought because it's like, I don't think I'm a big 760 00:34:08.719 --> 00:34:13.360 slasher movie guy. I love like the Shining, I loved Weapons. 761 00:34:13.480 --> 00:34:16.920 This year I read that I finished that short story 762 00:34:17.000 --> 00:34:19.639 a book or a collection that Stephen King put out 763 00:34:19.760 --> 00:34:22.159 at Night Shift, and I fucking love that. So I 764 00:34:22.159 --> 00:34:25.320 think just really clever horror. I think I really like. 765 00:34:25.599 --> 00:34:26.239 I think it's just. 766 00:34:26.320 --> 00:34:29.239 So much really clever horror. You just have to find it. 767 00:34:29.360 --> 00:34:33.639 I like the trash to quite but personally I like it. 768 00:34:33.840 --> 00:34:36.280 But the dan is you're gonna hate this. They have 769 00:34:36.320 --> 00:34:38.320 a phrase for the kind of movies you're just describing, 770 00:34:38.480 --> 00:34:40.679 elevated horror. 771 00:34:40.960 --> 00:34:43.320 It sounds like that sounds like when you called Chipotle 772 00:34:43.480 --> 00:34:44.400 fast casual. 773 00:34:44.760 --> 00:34:53.239 Yeah, you like the fast casual horror movies, horror, thinking 774 00:34:53.320 --> 00:34:56.079 out about Halloween and Friday thirteen still, and Dan's like, 775 00:34:56.199 --> 00:34:59.599 I only watch things that make me think while I'm afraid. 776 00:34:59.320 --> 00:35:02.400 Now allween kicks ass Is is John Carpenter, and that's 777 00:35:02.440 --> 00:35:05.039 a that's a fantastic director. It's but also don't know 778 00:35:05.039 --> 00:35:06.400 what then I'm talking about, because I've never seen a 779 00:35:06.400 --> 00:35:08.960 Fright of the thirteenth, I've never seen a Jason Jason Next. 780 00:35:08.960 --> 00:35:11.960 But it's like, I think a lot of these huge things. 781 00:35:12.559 --> 00:35:15.480 What that's just a funny one Jason movie to have 782 00:35:15.559 --> 00:35:17.239 seen the Space. 783 00:35:17.000 --> 00:35:19.599 And that sounded funny. So wait, maybe all the horror 784 00:35:19.639 --> 00:35:22.320 I've actually seen, I like, you're. 785 00:35:22.199 --> 00:35:23.840 Just not a horror fan though, even though you like 786 00:35:23.920 --> 00:35:25.000 every movie you've seen. 787 00:35:25.079 --> 00:35:28.960 Maybe you should try more. There's a lot of good ones, 788 00:35:29.039 --> 00:35:31.960 even the ones that are like, okay, are I think good? 789 00:35:32.039 --> 00:35:34.480 It's like you have to get past it all. 790 00:35:34.760 --> 00:35:37.800 I sorted by genre on letterbox right now, and horror. 791 00:35:37.880 --> 00:35:39.840 I've got all these ones that I rated like four 792 00:35:39.880 --> 00:35:45.960 and a half five, Aliens, Weapons Centers, Barbarian, the Sustans, 793 00:35:46.440 --> 00:35:51.599 the Thing. Yeah, holyh Near Dark Horizon. I probably like 794 00:35:51.639 --> 00:35:55.119 get Out, Get Outs fantastic. I love No Menu. 795 00:35:55.239 --> 00:35:56.519 What's that did you see? Nope? 796 00:35:56.679 --> 00:35:59.159 I didn't love No No No. I give it three 797 00:35:59.199 --> 00:35:59.840 service and looking Man. 798 00:36:01.559 --> 00:36:02.800 Make him think enough? 799 00:36:04.039 --> 00:36:05.679 Uh Blair Jennifer's Body. 800 00:36:05.800 --> 00:36:06.920 Wait. I like a lot of horror movies. 801 00:36:07.960 --> 00:36:11.280 This Body is a really good example of like, uh, 802 00:36:11.559 --> 00:36:13.639 not that it's bad, it's it's it's a good movie, 803 00:36:13.639 --> 00:36:16.920 but it's kind of like simple and stupid, but it's 804 00:36:17.280 --> 00:36:18.280 it's so fun. 805 00:36:18.480 --> 00:36:19.239 It's camp. 806 00:36:19.719 --> 00:36:23.400 Yes, I put that kind of the same categories like Slither. 807 00:36:23.599 --> 00:36:27.440 Did you ever see that James Gun horror movie? 808 00:36:25.559 --> 00:36:29.559 But you guys reed that to me last year and 809 00:36:29.599 --> 00:36:31.599 I watched it. Yeah, it's bither is great. 810 00:36:32.000 --> 00:36:33.840 It's so it's got everything you need. 811 00:36:33.880 --> 00:36:38.360 It's got zombies, it's got aliens, it's got weird creepy stuff. 812 00:36:38.400 --> 00:36:41.719 It's got love story, it's got oh, it's got like 813 00:36:41.880 --> 00:36:45.480 gross visual horror. It's got everything you need. 814 00:36:46.280 --> 00:36:47.880 I think pregnant lad. 815 00:36:49.000 --> 00:36:52.800 I think that's why I like Barbarian and Weapons specifically 816 00:36:53.639 --> 00:36:56.840 because I feel is it Zach Crowder that the director 817 00:36:56.880 --> 00:37:00.320 of my freaking up his name? I feel like he 818 00:37:01.559 --> 00:37:04.079 can do that elevated horror quote unquote, but he's also 819 00:37:04.159 --> 00:37:06.880 not a shame to be making horror movies, like he's 820 00:37:06.880 --> 00:37:09.800 still having fun with the genre, like he's doing genre 821 00:37:09.880 --> 00:37:14.000 fiction with horror, but he is also layering it quite 822 00:37:14.039 --> 00:37:16.119 a bit in a way that I think the fact 823 00:37:16.119 --> 00:37:18.800 that he can speak to both audiences is really really impressive. 824 00:37:19.159 --> 00:37:20.400 I think it's I think that there's a lot of 825 00:37:20.440 --> 00:37:23.440 horror movies look stupid, like like what's. 826 00:37:23.440 --> 00:37:23.960 Like like. 827 00:37:25.599 --> 00:37:27.400 The Black Black Phone or whatever. 828 00:37:27.480 --> 00:37:29.119 I'm actually not sure. 829 00:37:29.480 --> 00:37:31.840 Look at the image she sent in our in our chat, 830 00:37:32.119 --> 00:37:34.079 she's talking about Terrifier for and I saw this. 831 00:37:34.159 --> 00:37:34.760 I was like, there's no. 832 00:37:34.679 --> 00:37:38.480 Way this okay, I'm sending I sent them a image 833 00:37:38.519 --> 00:37:42.880 of Terrifier for and it's Terrifier in Space, which reminded 834 00:37:42.880 --> 00:37:44.920 me of what you said with Jason X in Space, 835 00:37:45.159 --> 00:37:49.960 I think, but I'm not sure because Terrifier subverts her 836 00:37:50.000 --> 00:37:52.599 expectations a lot. That's like a huge part of his character, 837 00:37:52.920 --> 00:37:54.559 so they might be fucking with me. 838 00:37:54.760 --> 00:37:55.480 I'm not sure. 839 00:37:56.599 --> 00:37:59.039 Yeah, I think some of them look really schlocky and dumb, 840 00:37:59.079 --> 00:38:00.719 like I think of that, like was that Ethan Hawk, 841 00:38:00.800 --> 00:38:02.639 like the Black Phone or something like that. These things 842 00:38:02.800 --> 00:38:04.679 a lot of them just look stupid. Maybe I'm just 843 00:38:04.800 --> 00:38:06.039 judging by the trailer, but. 844 00:38:06.000 --> 00:38:06.920 Did you watch Meghan? 845 00:38:07.480 --> 00:38:09.719 I like Megan fe is like stupid. 846 00:38:09.800 --> 00:38:10.880 Meghan is stupid. 847 00:38:11.039 --> 00:38:13.159 Yeah, and you're like kind of like it. 848 00:38:13.280 --> 00:38:17.679 Yeah, it's I think there's a lot of those. Maybe 849 00:38:17.760 --> 00:38:22.239 I should give you some more like that are not 850 00:38:22.480 --> 00:38:25.760 traditional that I still think are worth seeing, even if 851 00:38:25.760 --> 00:38:27.320 they're like kind of bad. 852 00:38:27.480 --> 00:38:30.199 But I like anyway, you told me about Barbarian and 853 00:38:30.239 --> 00:38:31.039 I adore. 854 00:38:31.280 --> 00:38:32.800 I know, but it's hard to it's hard to hit 855 00:38:32.800 --> 00:38:35.320 that bar Like, have you seen a lot of the 856 00:38:35.320 --> 00:38:38.400 classics from our childhood? So like sounds like you've seen Scream, 857 00:38:38.480 --> 00:38:40.440 but like, I know what you did. I know what 858 00:38:40.480 --> 00:38:41.800 you did last summer, the original. 859 00:38:42.119 --> 00:38:44.079 I would see parts of it on TV, never seen 860 00:38:44.079 --> 00:38:44.599 the whole thing. 861 00:38:44.719 --> 00:38:45.679 No, it's pretty good. 862 00:38:46.079 --> 00:38:48.519 Yeah, I guess I like with. 863 00:38:48.559 --> 00:38:50.159 Action movies, I think, but part of what I like 864 00:38:50.239 --> 00:38:53.199 is I like watching people die in hilarious ways. And 865 00:38:53.840 --> 00:38:55.840 that sounds like what a lot of horror movies are. 866 00:38:57.239 --> 00:38:58.639 It's just like hilarious desks. 867 00:38:59.280 --> 00:39:02.719 Yeah, I think a lot of Yeah, I would say 868 00:39:02.920 --> 00:39:04.840 a big one that came out in the last few 869 00:39:04.920 --> 00:39:07.360 years messes with that trope. Right at the very end, 870 00:39:07.400 --> 00:39:10.199 which is what made it, in part a great movie. 871 00:39:10.519 --> 00:39:12.119 I I spoil which one, but that could have been 872 00:39:12.159 --> 00:39:14.039 any of them the last five ten years. 873 00:39:14.400 --> 00:39:20.400 Yeah, yeah, no, I love old school schlocky slasher stuff. 874 00:39:20.480 --> 00:39:23.199 But I'm also I've said it before. Nope. 875 00:39:23.280 --> 00:39:25.039 I finished it, and that night I was like, I 876 00:39:25.039 --> 00:39:27.159 couldn't stand that movie. And then like the next morning 877 00:39:27.159 --> 00:39:30.559 I woke up and was still thinking deeply about it, 878 00:39:30.679 --> 00:39:32.760 Like that movie really affected me. 879 00:39:33.400 --> 00:39:36.079 In a way that has not. It is it is 880 00:39:36.119 --> 00:39:37.559 a very interesting movie. 881 00:39:37.679 --> 00:39:39.920 We should talk about those types of movies where like 882 00:39:40.000 --> 00:39:42.039 maybe at first you're like I didn't like it, and 883 00:39:42.039 --> 00:39:44.719 then the next day you're like, I liked it. That 884 00:39:44.760 --> 00:39:47.280 happened to me recently. I can think of one which 885 00:39:47.360 --> 00:39:49.239 was called I Saw the TV Glow. 886 00:39:49.679 --> 00:39:51.239 Oh I heard about that, yeah. 887 00:39:51.000 --> 00:39:54.920 Because it's a horror or horror scary, right, And then 888 00:39:54.960 --> 00:39:57.440 I was like, it's not scary enough, it's not doing 889 00:39:57.440 --> 00:39:57.960 what I want. 890 00:39:58.239 --> 00:39:59.000 I don't like it. 891 00:39:59.199 --> 00:40:01.199 And then I thought of it for about twenty four 892 00:40:01.199 --> 00:40:02.519 hours and then I was like, I love it. 893 00:40:04.119 --> 00:40:06.039 But I don't know if I've ever gone from disliking 894 00:40:06.119 --> 00:40:07.679 to like it wasn't what I wanted. 895 00:40:08.159 --> 00:40:09.039 I've definitely gone. 896 00:40:08.880 --> 00:40:11.079 From appreciating more because I remember when like Bonk and 897 00:40:11.079 --> 00:40:13.000 I left Annihilation, I think I was like, oh, it's 898 00:40:13.000 --> 00:40:14.639 like a four out of five movie, and then I 899 00:40:14.679 --> 00:40:16.079 saw it again, I was like, that is a five 900 00:40:16.079 --> 00:40:17.840 out of five. Holy shit, and I loved it so 901 00:40:17.960 --> 00:40:19.840 much more. So, like I've gone from like a four 902 00:40:19.920 --> 00:40:21.400 to a five. I don't know if I've ever gone 903 00:40:21.400 --> 00:40:22.719 from like a two to a four or five. 904 00:40:22.760 --> 00:40:26.639 Oh, that's happened to me so many times. I didn't 905 00:40:26.800 --> 00:40:28.199 like Sean of the Dead the. 906 00:40:28.199 --> 00:40:31.280 First time I watched it, and that's a fun one. 907 00:40:31.920 --> 00:40:32.760 I didn't like. 908 00:40:32.719 --> 00:40:36.760 It because I wanted to see a traditional zombie movie 909 00:40:37.199 --> 00:40:39.360 and they kept making it funny and I was like, 910 00:40:39.440 --> 00:40:42.840 you guys aren't taking me seriously enough. People are dying. 911 00:40:43.480 --> 00:40:46.280 And then it took me like an evening to get 912 00:40:46.320 --> 00:40:49.079 over myself and realize it was. It was brilliant, but 913 00:40:49.159 --> 00:40:52.199 I didn't process it at first because I thought it 914 00:40:52.280 --> 00:40:53.320 was supposed to be scary. 915 00:40:54.199 --> 00:40:56.199 I actually now that I think. But I definitely have 916 00:40:56.239 --> 00:40:58.199 gone from like a I think this is the worst 917 00:40:58.199 --> 00:40:58.920 movie I've ever seen. 918 00:40:58.960 --> 00:40:59.159 Too. 919 00:40:59.199 --> 00:41:01.639 I love this movie, and that's a net and I 920 00:41:01.679 --> 00:41:03.440 can't remember i've told so many people about this movie. 921 00:41:03.559 --> 00:41:04.679 Oh yeah, yeah, I can. 922 00:41:04.800 --> 00:41:07.280 Have you seen it, either of you? Okay, Mary, of 923 00:41:07.320 --> 00:41:10.280 you and the move stop typing? Stop typing? 924 00:41:11.280 --> 00:41:14.719 Do you recommend it because of you? Okay, don't don't. 925 00:41:14.760 --> 00:41:18.519 Don't look at anything more. Don't look at anymore? Okay, Okay, Adam. 926 00:41:18.320 --> 00:41:22.360 Driver Okay, I'm gonna okay, and Marion co. 927 00:41:22.519 --> 00:41:27.480 Tealyard Okay, our friends laugh. 928 00:41:27.719 --> 00:41:29.639 You didn't expect me to pronounce it so barfing. 929 00:41:30.079 --> 00:41:33.800 Yeah, Mary, I would love to give you a homework assignment, 930 00:41:34.480 --> 00:41:37.119 you know, as you did with me with Barbarians. The 931 00:41:37.199 --> 00:41:40.199 faces like, oh great, it's on Amazon. 932 00:41:40.239 --> 00:41:42.559 You got the Amazon. Okay, what am I talking about? 933 00:41:43.400 --> 00:41:46.400 You've got the Amazon Amazon? Okay? 934 00:41:47.400 --> 00:41:52.480 My dad, Mary sight unseen and I mean you've looked 935 00:41:52.480 --> 00:41:53.519 at like the poster, right, you. 936 00:41:53.440 --> 00:41:56.760 Know, no cheating, Just just go watch it. 937 00:41:56.960 --> 00:41:57.960 Yeah, yeah, I can do that. 938 00:41:58.079 --> 00:42:02.159 And you do you not know anything about this? Oh Mary, 939 00:42:02.280 --> 00:42:06.480 I'm so excited to hear your thoughts on this. I've 940 00:42:06.599 --> 00:42:08.639 made so many people watch this movie. I've seen it 941 00:42:08.679 --> 00:42:10.199 like six times in the last few years. 942 00:42:11.400 --> 00:42:12.239 Kayla loves it. 943 00:42:12.400 --> 00:42:14.239 My dad, I don't know if I've ever seen him 944 00:42:14.280 --> 00:42:17.039 more mad than when he was watching it. 945 00:42:17.360 --> 00:42:19.920 I can't imagine Paul ever even sitting through this whole thing. 946 00:42:19.960 --> 00:42:22.239 Paul and I are pretty similar, so I am I 947 00:42:22.280 --> 00:42:23.320 expecting to hate it. 948 00:42:23.440 --> 00:42:25.199 We had to pay him two hundred dollars to watch it. 949 00:42:25.239 --> 00:42:31.559 But I'm not kidding, Oh Mary, okay, okay, and anyone 950 00:42:31.679 --> 00:42:33.559 at home, I know I've talked about this on various 951 00:42:33.559 --> 00:42:35.320 podcasts and things like that, and watched it on the 952 00:42:35.360 --> 00:42:39.400 internet before check out a net on Amazon Prime Video 953 00:42:39.840 --> 00:42:41.880 and don't look up anything, and let's talk about it 954 00:42:41.880 --> 00:42:45.039 next time, okay, okay. 955 00:42:45.800 --> 00:42:52.039 Yeah, And that was quite a ride. But yeah, it 956 00:42:52.079 --> 00:42:53.079 was a good year for movies. 957 00:42:53.119 --> 00:42:57.800 I'd say, yes, yeah, I've flirted with the idea of 958 00:42:57.800 --> 00:43:00.360 like I watched the documentary about Movie Pass and it 959 00:43:00.400 --> 00:43:02.199 really brought me back to that time where it's like, man, 960 00:43:02.239 --> 00:43:04.079 we lived in New York City, we walked to this theater. 961 00:43:04.199 --> 00:43:05.920 We would just like see all these movies we would 962 00:43:05.960 --> 00:43:09.199 never consider paying for a ticket to go see. And 963 00:43:09.440 --> 00:43:11.719 I was like looking up, like oh, they came back 964 00:43:11.840 --> 00:43:14.119 kind of, but it's like confusing how it works. And 965 00:43:14.119 --> 00:43:16.679 then like AMC's got the A list thing and it's like, well, 966 00:43:16.679 --> 00:43:19.320 we see two movies in the theaters a month then 967 00:43:19.679 --> 00:43:22.280 it's worth it. But it's like we're not guaranteed to 968 00:43:22.320 --> 00:43:24.400 do that, so I don't know. It's just I do 969 00:43:24.480 --> 00:43:26.360 pine for the days of Movie Past. That was a 970 00:43:26.360 --> 00:43:26.800 good time. 971 00:43:27.280 --> 00:43:29.239 Yeah, I was in San Francisco all that was happening. 972 00:43:29.320 --> 00:43:31.400 I used to it quite a bit. Also, speaking of 973 00:43:31.440 --> 00:43:36.000 Robert Redford, he owned Sundance Theater, the Chant, and then 974 00:43:36.119 --> 00:43:37.039 there's several locations. 975 00:43:37.079 --> 00:43:38.760 There was one right in Japan, Towan, near my apartment. 976 00:43:38.800 --> 00:43:41.159 Every single Sunday I went. That is where I saw 977 00:43:41.280 --> 00:43:43.800 Annihilation for the first time in twenty fifteen. I believe 978 00:43:44.519 --> 00:43:45.960 nice that summer or something like that. 979 00:43:46.079 --> 00:43:47.800 No, no, no, no, I was living in New York. I 980 00:43:48.239 --> 00:43:50.119 know that it was at least seventeen. 981 00:43:50.599 --> 00:43:53.639 Oh interesting, Okay, yeah, I think i'd remember. It's like 982 00:43:53.840 --> 00:43:56.400 my second favorite movie of all time. 983 00:43:56.440 --> 00:43:58.639 I'd say it's seventeen or eighteen. Yeah, but I think 984 00:43:58.639 --> 00:44:00.119 that might have been during the movie. 985 00:44:00.000 --> 00:44:03.519 Eighteen sounds right, Yeah, something like that. Yeah, we sat 986 00:44:03.559 --> 00:44:05.760 with Movie Past. Also fifteen, I just moved out. There 987 00:44:05.800 --> 00:44:06.519 wouldn't make sense. 988 00:44:06.760 --> 00:44:10.840 Twenty eighteen. Yep, okay, yep, yep. I still got to. 989 00:44:10.800 --> 00:44:14.280 Read those books. Oh yeah, you were asking me about that. Recently. 990 00:44:14.719 --> 00:44:17.000 I intend to read the book. I'm working on the 991 00:44:17.119 --> 00:44:19.159 Lauren Mike Shark right now, but then I'll move on 992 00:44:19.199 --> 00:44:19.440 to that. 993 00:44:20.039 --> 00:44:24.480 Yeah, the Southern Reach trilogy. They're all digestible, fairly short, 994 00:44:24.880 --> 00:44:29.239 very very different than the movie, but still similar. Idea 995 00:44:29.280 --> 00:44:32.880 that a group of people go into this weird anomaly 996 00:44:33.480 --> 00:44:34.880 and weird shit happens. 997 00:44:35.280 --> 00:44:39.519 Nice. All right, you want to talk about video games? Sure? Yeah, 998 00:44:39.559 --> 00:44:41.400 all right, and we're back Dan. 999 00:44:41.639 --> 00:44:44.119 Why do you have Star Wars Jedi Survivor on your 1000 00:44:44.119 --> 00:44:44.920 list you're playing? 1001 00:44:45.280 --> 00:44:46.440 Did you read you. 1002 00:44:46.440 --> 00:44:48.960 Not say you were playing it, or did you not 1003 00:44:49.079 --> 00:44:50.159 bring it up last time. 1004 00:44:50.039 --> 00:44:50.599 I brought it up. 1005 00:44:50.599 --> 00:44:52.480 I brought it up many times, saying I love that game. 1006 00:44:52.519 --> 00:44:53.840 I think people should give it more of a chance 1007 00:44:53.880 --> 00:44:56.239 and see later in the game what happens throughout. 1008 00:44:56.320 --> 00:44:57.880 But I didn't feel like. 1009 00:44:58.119 --> 00:45:00.360 In my head, the reason I started playing it was 1010 00:45:00.400 --> 00:45:02.960 because I thought, in like the same week that both 1011 00:45:03.079 --> 00:45:06.360 Jeff Grubb and you had been talking about playing it. 1012 00:45:06.519 --> 00:45:08.239 You mentioned that he was playing it, and I said, 1013 00:45:08.360 --> 00:45:10.119 I love that game. I wish more people would give 1014 00:45:10.159 --> 00:45:12.559 more chance because the PC launch had a lot of 1015 00:45:12.599 --> 00:45:15.039 issues the beginning, and you guys have brought up valid 1016 00:45:16.079 --> 00:45:17.960 issues with the beginning of the game, which I get, 1017 00:45:18.000 --> 00:45:19.679 but like later on that game becomes awesome. 1018 00:45:19.800 --> 00:45:22.199 Yeah, I'm a few hours in now, and like the beginning, 1019 00:45:22.239 --> 00:45:24.239 it's like, sure, it does the thing I don't like 1020 00:45:24.239 --> 00:45:25.760 where it's like, Okay, we're just going to do this 1021 00:45:25.760 --> 00:45:27.360 thing where it's like you kind of have control of 1022 00:45:27.360 --> 00:45:29.199 this guy while he's walking handcuff through the thing and 1023 00:45:29.199 --> 00:45:30.880 we're throwing a bunch of story at you, and I 1024 00:45:30.920 --> 00:45:33.559 was just very bored. But like you get past that 1025 00:45:33.719 --> 00:45:36.760 and very quickly it's like, Mike, I believe it might 1026 00:45:36.800 --> 00:45:40.119 have been you telling me that, Like the locomotion in 1027 00:45:40.159 --> 00:45:43.639 that game, the the platforming, the wall running, the double 1028 00:45:43.719 --> 00:45:46.119 jumping and all that stuff is pretty wild. It is 1029 00:45:46.199 --> 00:45:49.639 not a like grounded in reality, you know, some sort 1030 00:45:49.639 --> 00:45:51.639 of like Last of Us tomb Raider type third person 1031 00:45:51.679 --> 00:45:52.199 action game. 1032 00:45:52.519 --> 00:45:53.639 It is. It is. 1033 00:45:54.400 --> 00:45:57.119 It's fun controlling this character and like jumping in the air, 1034 00:45:57.159 --> 00:45:58.800 like flying through the air after a zip line and 1035 00:45:58.800 --> 00:46:01.159 like hitting lb like the like you know, blaster shots 1036 00:46:01.159 --> 00:46:03.360 and everything with your lightsaber in midair and then going 1037 00:46:03.400 --> 00:46:06.159 down there and like for I am a sucker for 1038 00:46:06.320 --> 00:46:09.679 either throwing or force pushing characters off of ledges. And games, 1039 00:46:09.960 --> 00:46:11.519 and my god, I can't tell you how many times 1040 00:46:11.599 --> 00:46:13.639 they just have a stormtrooper near a ledge and I 1041 00:46:13.639 --> 00:46:15.320 get to go up and just like fuck you just 1042 00:46:15.360 --> 00:46:16.920 send them off into a city below. 1043 00:46:17.039 --> 00:46:17.320 It is. 1044 00:46:17.760 --> 00:46:19.960 It's just super fun. It's just a very fun game 1045 00:46:20.039 --> 00:46:23.199 to play. There is I you know, just being a 1046 00:46:23.239 --> 00:46:25.360 few hours in, I don't have a great sense of 1047 00:46:25.360 --> 00:46:27.199 like how good the upgrade tree is going to be. 1048 00:46:27.480 --> 00:46:28.880 Like there's kind of a lot. It's like every time 1049 00:46:28.880 --> 00:46:30.639 I go there, it's like you can be a billion 1050 00:46:30.639 --> 00:46:33.400 different lightsaber things for all your different stances, and you 1051 00:46:33.440 --> 00:46:36.320 can do you know, like your survival stuff. You can 1052 00:46:36.360 --> 00:46:38.400 do the force upgrades and stuff like that. So it's 1053 00:46:38.440 --> 00:46:40.760 kind of a lot on that front. But I am 1054 00:46:40.800 --> 00:46:44.880 liking it as kind of like a light Fron type game, 1055 00:46:45.199 --> 00:46:47.280 you know what I mean. It's just like it's got 1056 00:46:47.320 --> 00:46:49.880 the hallmarks of that. It's got the meditation spots instead 1057 00:46:49.880 --> 00:46:52.119 of the bonfire, and the responding enemies and the leveling 1058 00:46:52.159 --> 00:46:54.480 up and all that stuff. But it's definitely not like 1059 00:46:54.519 --> 00:46:56.559 a game I'm playing to super challenge myself. I'm just 1060 00:46:56.599 --> 00:46:59.599 playing on the default difficulty. It's just a fun Star 1061 00:46:59.639 --> 00:47:03.079 Wars that's like the production value is insane on that 1062 00:47:03.119 --> 00:47:05.159 I'm playing on a forty ninety and it's just like, 1063 00:47:05.559 --> 00:47:07.280 God damn it. Everything looks and sounds. 1064 00:47:07.400 --> 00:47:10.840 Yeah, I love It can get overwhelming with the different 1065 00:47:10.920 --> 00:47:14.280 lightsaber stances and the different upgrades to each one. But 1066 00:47:14.440 --> 00:47:17.599 I also appreciate that they continue throughout the entirety of 1067 00:47:17.599 --> 00:47:20.480 the game to put I think I'm exaggerating if I 1068 00:47:20.480 --> 00:47:23.760 say they put as much emphasis on the platforming and 1069 00:47:23.920 --> 00:47:26.639 exploration as the fighting, But they put a lot of 1070 00:47:26.679 --> 00:47:30.559 emphasis on the platforming, the exploration, the puzzle solving. There's 1071 00:47:30.599 --> 00:47:35.079 some areas that feel Zelda esque in their environmental puzzle 1072 00:47:35.079 --> 00:47:35.840 solving and whatnot. 1073 00:47:35.960 --> 00:47:37.280 And there's all. 1074 00:47:37.119 --> 00:47:42.320 Those meditation grounds or Jedi temples or something that feel 1075 00:47:42.320 --> 00:47:44.440 almost like shrines in and of themselves. 1076 00:47:44.480 --> 00:47:45.519 That's interesting. I haven't seen that. 1077 00:47:45.679 --> 00:47:47.280 Yeah, how far are you? 1078 00:47:47.639 --> 00:47:49.480 I'm just like I did the whole opening thing on 1079 00:47:49.519 --> 00:47:53.880 Coruscant and now I'm in like a kind of outdoor daytime. Okay, yeah, yeah, 1080 00:47:53.920 --> 00:47:55.239 mountainous yeah yeah. 1081 00:47:55.079 --> 00:47:55.599 Okay, yeah. 1082 00:47:55.760 --> 00:47:57.400 I will say the structure of the game is not 1083 00:47:57.480 --> 00:48:00.960 its strong point. Because can I for you a word 1084 00:48:00.960 --> 00:48:03.679 of advice that I think would enhance your enjoyment of it? 1085 00:48:03.800 --> 00:48:04.119 Please? 1086 00:48:04.840 --> 00:48:06.840 I got. I got to that big planet. 1087 00:48:06.920 --> 00:48:09.519 There's one planet that's way bigger than the rest, and 1088 00:48:09.679 --> 00:48:11.320 I didn't want to leave it until I did everything. 1089 00:48:11.360 --> 00:48:13.559 I would strongly encourage you to leave it as soon 1090 00:48:13.559 --> 00:48:15.400 as you can and come back at your own pace. 1091 00:48:15.960 --> 00:48:20.639 You unlock way more impactful upgrades and evolutions by leaving 1092 00:48:21.079 --> 00:48:23.599 and then coming back and mopping up. But you can 1093 00:48:23.639 --> 00:48:26.480 spend a good like twenty hours on I don't know 1094 00:48:26.639 --> 00:48:28.320 the exact hour count, but I think I spent a 1095 00:48:28.320 --> 00:48:30.800 good fifteen to twenty hours on that planet alone. I 1096 00:48:30.840 --> 00:48:33.480 wish I had left sooner, because you start to see 1097 00:48:33.519 --> 00:48:39.119 the game the speed of meaningful upgrades and character changes 1098 00:48:39.639 --> 00:48:41.119 much more rapidly if you leave. 1099 00:48:41.599 --> 00:48:44.760 Okay, awesome, Yeah yeah, then I do intend on continuing 1100 00:48:44.800 --> 00:48:47.239 with this. I am really enjoying it. And actually I 1101 00:48:47.320 --> 00:48:49.760 was just reminded I mentioned like from games, I think 1102 00:48:49.800 --> 00:48:55.039 I want to play SEC euro Ooh. 1103 00:48:53.679 --> 00:48:54.840 Have you tried it at all before? 1104 00:48:55.119 --> 00:48:57.000 I think I played like ten hours of it or so. 1105 00:48:57.199 --> 00:48:59.440 I just got my ass kicked and I really fell 1106 00:48:59.440 --> 00:49:01.480 off because it's like and other from games, because like 1107 00:49:01.480 --> 00:49:03.400 I've never taken the time to get really good at 1108 00:49:03.400 --> 00:49:04.559 like perrying and stuff like that. 1109 00:49:04.639 --> 00:49:07.199 So I would have to parry. And that's the thing. 1110 00:49:07.360 --> 00:49:07.760 You can't. 1111 00:49:07.960 --> 00:49:09.880 You can't just you know, cheese it by like leveling 1112 00:49:10.000 --> 00:49:11.840 up and grinding and grinding like okay, well now my 1113 00:49:12.000 --> 00:49:14.199 HP is insane, so I'm not gonna die or like, 1114 00:49:14.280 --> 00:49:16.039 so you have to get good. And so I actually 1115 00:49:16.079 --> 00:49:18.119 I played through Mike Tyson's punch Out a couple times 1116 00:49:18.159 --> 00:49:21.440 this weekend, and in playing that and remembering how satisfying 1117 00:49:21.440 --> 00:49:24.000 it was to kind of learn like just the enemy 1118 00:49:24.000 --> 00:49:26.559 patterns and just the very specific timing, it's like, well 1119 00:49:26.559 --> 00:49:29.159 that's kind of what Sekero is supposed to be. So 1120 00:49:29.559 --> 00:49:31.719 and I am really good at it and punch Out, 1121 00:49:31.760 --> 00:49:34.400 So like I think there is I think I get. 1122 00:49:34.239 --> 00:49:35.280 Good at punch Out. 1123 00:49:35.400 --> 00:49:36.760 I'm very good at punch Out. 1124 00:49:36.960 --> 00:49:39.239 I think I can handle Secera. 1125 00:49:39.639 --> 00:49:41.880 That's the thing I I it's a crazy it's it's 1126 00:49:41.880 --> 00:49:44.519 always intimidated me. Like that game and and and even 1127 00:49:44.639 --> 00:49:47.639 playing from games in general has intimidated me because I've 1128 00:49:47.639 --> 00:49:49.599 only beat two and those were both by like super 1129 00:49:49.639 --> 00:49:51.920 over leveling myself. So like there is a world where 1130 00:49:51.920 --> 00:49:53.159 it's like I kind of want to just like on 1131 00:49:53.199 --> 00:49:56.119 my twitch just maybe like every week like have like 1132 00:49:56.159 --> 00:49:58.000 a Secura day where it's I'm gonna play a couple hours 1133 00:49:57.960 --> 00:49:59.920 of Securo and try to beat this game. 1134 00:50:00.159 --> 00:50:03.840 So what's the other one besides elden Ring. You've been Bloodborne? 1135 00:50:04.559 --> 00:50:05.239 Oh? Interesting? 1136 00:50:05.280 --> 00:50:11.079 Okay, I could absolutely see you. Yeah, it's intimidating as hell. 1137 00:50:11.920 --> 00:50:14.880 There's a certain point in that game where I was 1138 00:50:15.360 --> 00:50:17.159 intimidated by it, and then all of a sudden, I 1139 00:50:17.199 --> 00:50:18.960 started feeling like I was actually on its level, and 1140 00:50:19.039 --> 00:50:21.000 it became one of my top three from games. 1141 00:50:21.199 --> 00:50:22.400 I don't want to put words his mouth. 1142 00:50:22.480 --> 00:50:25.000 It might be Jake Decker's favorite from game and this 1143 00:50:25.039 --> 00:50:27.519 isn't a bit I think I think he told me. Yeah, 1144 00:50:27.559 --> 00:50:31.199 it's it's fucking unreal because there's a boss not four 1145 00:50:31.239 --> 00:50:33.639 hours into that game that is probably one of my 1146 00:50:33.679 --> 00:50:35.960 favorite boss fights of all time in any. 1147 00:50:35.800 --> 00:50:37.440 Genre, which one I probably got there? 1148 00:50:38.280 --> 00:50:39.280 The dude with the lightning? 1149 00:50:40.039 --> 00:50:40.719 Is he on a horse? 1150 00:50:41.519 --> 00:50:41.719 No? 1151 00:50:42.280 --> 00:50:45.719 Okay, on the rooftop of the lightning. I've watched Kayla 1152 00:50:45.800 --> 00:50:47.559 do that, and yeah, crazy, I. 1153 00:50:47.480 --> 00:50:49.360 Could have worn that was early on. Maybe maybe I'm 1154 00:50:49.559 --> 00:50:50.280 understanding past. 1155 00:50:50.920 --> 00:50:52.960 I mean I probably took my sweet time getting to yeah, 1156 00:50:53.079 --> 00:50:54.760 maybe play ten hours, but didn't get that bar. 1157 00:50:54.880 --> 00:50:58.960 You know, I think that would be a very challenging 1158 00:50:59.000 --> 00:51:01.159 game to play a few hours and then drop for 1159 00:51:01.199 --> 00:51:03.880 a week at a time. Yeah, okay, I do think 1160 00:51:03.880 --> 00:51:05.679 there's a rhythm to that game that once you get 1161 00:51:05.719 --> 00:51:07.440 into it, you start to kind of just lock in. 1162 00:51:07.719 --> 00:51:09.679 It's similar to Mike Tyson. Like if you fought one 1163 00:51:09.679 --> 00:51:11.639 fighter at a time, Mike Tyson came back the next week, 1164 00:51:11.679 --> 00:51:12.719 it would be very difficult. 1165 00:51:13.000 --> 00:51:13.320 Okay. 1166 00:51:13.639 --> 00:51:15.320 I mean, obviously play at your own pace, but I 1167 00:51:15.360 --> 00:51:17.960 would say I could see you, yeah, because of your 1168 00:51:18.039 --> 00:51:21.599 love of Tyson, like the pattern recognition of those different 1169 00:51:21.599 --> 00:51:24.199 bosses and mini bosses and even everyday enemies. Once you 1170 00:51:24.280 --> 00:51:27.360 start getting to a point where you're confidently pairing, these 1171 00:51:27.360 --> 00:51:29.239 guys will run at you with spears and you'll just 1172 00:51:29.320 --> 00:51:31.519 kind of laugh and then like step on the tip 1173 00:51:31.559 --> 00:51:33.519 of the spear shove it into the ground so they 1174 00:51:33.519 --> 00:51:35.280 can't do anything and they're just stabbing them in the face. 1175 00:51:35.320 --> 00:51:35.840 It's awesome. 1176 00:51:36.199 --> 00:51:37.280 It's really fun. 1177 00:51:37.400 --> 00:51:42.079 Yeah, it's the coolest I've felt in a game. Yeah, 1178 00:51:43.960 --> 00:51:45.920 because I did beat the Armored Corps six too. But 1179 00:51:45.960 --> 00:51:48.880 I don't know people consider that same conversation, you know. 1180 00:51:49.840 --> 00:51:52.039 Maybe, Yeah, it's not as it's not a Soul's Born game. 1181 00:51:52.079 --> 00:51:56.599 But even though Fun made it, Yeah, I think I. 1182 00:51:56.159 --> 00:51:57.679 I think I do want to I do want to 1183 00:51:57.679 --> 00:51:59.960 play that game. It seems like it's very very highly 1184 00:52:00.079 --> 00:52:02.280 regarded and everything I've seen of it seems very cool. 1185 00:52:02.559 --> 00:52:05.000 It was my second favorite game of that year. It 1186 00:52:05.000 --> 00:52:07.440 would have been my favorite if it wasn't for Outer Wilds. 1187 00:52:07.639 --> 00:52:08.559 Twenty nineteen. 1188 00:52:09.320 --> 00:52:10.840 GameSpot gave it Game of the Year. 1189 00:52:10.880 --> 00:52:11.079 Though. 1190 00:52:12.519 --> 00:52:14.599 Yeah, it's d I'm glad you're like a Jedi survivor. 1191 00:52:14.599 --> 00:52:16.760 Though I've I've been wanting more people to play that 1192 00:52:16.920 --> 00:52:19.599 just it had such a shitty PC launch and it 1193 00:52:19.679 --> 00:52:20.679 was just in shape. 1194 00:52:20.840 --> 00:52:23.440 They had performance issues, right, And I think that's such 1195 00:52:23.440 --> 00:52:26.440 a bummer because that's the type of thing that is 1196 00:52:26.480 --> 00:52:29.960 really difficult to come back from, like even in the game, 1197 00:52:30.079 --> 00:52:32.320 like if you if it's crashing and people are losing 1198 00:52:32.360 --> 00:52:34.360 their progress, they're going to give it a shitty review. 1199 00:52:34.440 --> 00:52:35.039 That sucks. 1200 00:52:35.280 --> 00:52:36.679 Yeah, And I think I heard that, and it's like 1201 00:52:36.719 --> 00:52:37.760 it was at a time where there were a lot 1202 00:52:37.760 --> 00:52:40.280 of other games out and I was like, Okay, well, whatever, 1203 00:52:40.440 --> 00:52:41.719 this is busted. I'm gonna move on to this and 1204 00:52:41.719 --> 00:52:43.559 I'm probably just gonna forget about this one. Back here 1205 00:52:44.239 --> 00:52:45.760 and now it's like, Okay, there's not a ton of 1206 00:52:45.800 --> 00:52:48.360 releases right now, and towers that an evil, So maybe 1207 00:52:48.360 --> 00:52:49.840 this is my game. Maybe now is the time to 1208 00:52:49.840 --> 00:52:52.239 play it. And it runs super well on PC. 1209 00:52:52.440 --> 00:52:54.119 Now, not to shop on a game that we always 1210 00:52:54.119 --> 00:52:57.440 shot on. But I went back to Jedi Survivor because 1211 00:52:57.480 --> 00:53:02.159 I was so frustrated with Ragnarocks design choices like I 1212 00:53:02.239 --> 00:53:06.719 want like sweeping three D adventure and Dragon Rock is 1213 00:53:06.760 --> 00:53:09.719 just weighing me down every five minutes. I'm going to 1214 00:53:09.760 --> 00:53:11.320 go back to that game at some point, but I 1215 00:53:11.360 --> 00:53:15.079 really was just frustrated. Yeah, sure, I'll try it just 1216 00:53:15.119 --> 00:53:17.480 before the next game comes out. Maybe I won't. Maybe 1217 00:53:17.480 --> 00:53:19.039 you guys are right, maybe why who am I trying 1218 00:53:19.079 --> 00:53:19.400 to please? 1219 00:53:19.440 --> 00:53:20.679 It's not good. 1220 00:53:20.760 --> 00:53:21.840 I'm giving you so much ship. 1221 00:53:23.000 --> 00:53:25.360 I think we started that it's not poop category because 1222 00:53:25.360 --> 00:53:25.840 of that game. 1223 00:53:26.159 --> 00:53:31.000 I know that was for Horizon. I thought the game. Yeah. 1224 00:53:31.039 --> 00:53:34.679 Also also, yeah, such. 1225 00:53:34.519 --> 00:53:42.239 A bummer, like that poor game I can't catch a break. 1226 00:53:45.239 --> 00:53:52.000 Was good, but yeah, no, SEC is great, Jedi Survivor's awesome. 1227 00:53:52.400 --> 00:53:55.679 Yeah, the guys at Dork I don't like the dude. 1228 00:53:55.840 --> 00:53:57.280 I don't either, He's just a dweeb. 1229 00:53:57.440 --> 00:54:00.519 But whatsoever. There's some there are some stuff. 1230 00:54:00.519 --> 00:54:02.480 They introduced the gameplay loop later on that I actually 1231 00:54:02.519 --> 00:54:10.000 found strangely charming, like extremely extremely light farming and like 1232 00:54:10.079 --> 00:54:11.480 base building kind of stuff. 1233 00:54:11.960 --> 00:54:14.719 I've been getting some like seeds and stuff like that. Yeah, yeah, yeah, 1234 00:54:14.719 --> 00:54:16.639 that's all about Okay, you don't have to interact with 1235 00:54:16.639 --> 00:54:17.400 it if you get bored of it. 1236 00:54:17.679 --> 00:54:19.960 I'm excited to I like that stuff. Yeah. They give 1237 00:54:19.960 --> 00:54:20.280 you like a. 1238 00:54:20.239 --> 00:54:22.760 Home base, which is nice because again, like Horizon did that. 1239 00:54:23.920 --> 00:54:25.880 One of the games we're doing that. We were talking 1240 00:54:25.880 --> 00:54:29.000 about that recently. Forget what game it was in regards 1241 00:54:29.000 --> 00:54:30.760 to though, because like I didn't play enough of Horizon 1242 00:54:30.760 --> 00:54:32.599 Forbidden West the first time to get to the point 1243 00:54:32.599 --> 00:54:34.840 where you're starting to rebuild your bass with different characters. 1244 00:54:34.840 --> 00:54:38.360 But I like when games do that. Uh, Mary, what 1245 00:54:38.440 --> 00:54:39.119 have you been playing. 1246 00:54:40.880 --> 00:54:45.960 I've been playing a scary game called Routine. 1247 00:54:47.760 --> 00:54:53.239 This game is a sci fi horror in space. It 1248 00:54:53.360 --> 00:54:55.599 kind of reminds me of BioShock and the. 1249 00:54:55.599 --> 00:54:57.039 Sense that I think it was meant to be like 1250 00:54:57.079 --> 00:55:02.000 a utopia that came crumbling down. But I would say 1251 00:55:02.079 --> 00:55:07.039 it's better connected to Alien the game because you are 1252 00:55:07.079 --> 00:55:15.320 being hunted by robots. I think I'm still early on, 1253 00:55:15.480 --> 00:55:18.239 but generally what I'm learning is is that these robots 1254 00:55:18.280 --> 00:55:22.039 were like probably meant to help them, you know, and 1255 00:55:22.159 --> 00:55:25.480 they went rogue and started killing people, and they are. 1256 00:55:26.800 --> 00:55:32.559 Absolutely terrifying. It's very scary. They've done an excellent job. 1257 00:55:32.599 --> 00:55:36.440 But also typical in these games, you don't have a weapon, 1258 00:55:36.639 --> 00:55:38.480 so I can't defend myself. 1259 00:55:38.719 --> 00:55:40.639 There is a gun in the game, but it is 1260 00:55:40.800 --> 00:55:43.960 not really for protecting yourself. 1261 00:55:44.079 --> 00:55:50.119 It is a gun that, oh god, my knowledge in 1262 00:55:50.159 --> 00:55:52.440 this space is so limited, I'm going to embarrass myself. 1263 00:55:52.480 --> 00:55:54.760 It like scrambles. 1264 00:55:55.760 --> 00:55:59.920 The screens of things that aren't working properly. 1265 00:56:00.119 --> 00:56:01.280 So like let's say a door. 1266 00:56:01.159 --> 00:56:03.480 Isn't working and you see some tubes coming out of 1267 00:56:03.480 --> 00:56:07.599 the door and they go to a mechanical box. You 1268 00:56:07.599 --> 00:56:10.800 can use the device to reset the mechanical box, and 1269 00:56:10.840 --> 00:56:13.679 thus the door should start working again, if that makes sense. 1270 00:56:14.960 --> 00:56:19.360 The gun has three charges, so you can't just really 1271 00:56:19.440 --> 00:56:21.599 nilly shoot your gun anytime you want. You need to 1272 00:56:21.639 --> 00:56:24.480 be thoughtful about it. You can recharge the gun, but 1273 00:56:24.599 --> 00:56:27.119 only at recharge stations or if you find a battery, 1274 00:56:27.199 --> 00:56:30.000 so it's like something you have to consider, you know, like. 1275 00:56:29.559 --> 00:56:31.880 A one shot like take a robot down, like. 1276 00:56:32.960 --> 00:56:36.000 Pauses the robot for I think a rude amount of time. 1277 00:56:36.119 --> 00:56:39.960 I'm gonna say one and a half seconds. Okay, So 1278 00:56:40.039 --> 00:56:42.360 like you can use one of your precious shots to 1279 00:56:42.440 --> 00:56:46.119 get around a robot. I have not successfully done it, 1280 00:56:46.119 --> 00:56:47.719 but I think you can even like take down a 1281 00:56:47.800 --> 00:56:49.800 robot if you shoot them enough. But it's like, who 1282 00:56:49.840 --> 00:56:52.480 has that many shots in their gun? Like it's you 1283 00:56:52.559 --> 00:56:55.840 got to be busy predominantly. This is like a puzzle game. 1284 00:56:55.920 --> 00:57:01.199 This is a puzzle game where you are solving usually 1285 00:57:01.360 --> 00:57:08.239 some kind of like written Sometimes they feel like tactical puzzles. 1286 00:57:09.079 --> 00:57:14.199 Maybe you'll read in someone's diary that they're dating someone 1287 00:57:14.400 --> 00:57:17.559 and they left them a present and they're the janitor, 1288 00:57:17.599 --> 00:57:19.639 and it's like, okay, well I'll go to the janitorial offices. 1289 00:57:19.679 --> 00:57:22.559 When you go to the janitor offices, you'll see a 1290 00:57:22.599 --> 00:57:24.960 secret and that secret will open up a secret hole 1291 00:57:25.079 --> 00:57:26.840 and you'll need to get in there so you can 1292 00:57:26.880 --> 00:57:28.440 open up some more mechanic pieces. 1293 00:57:28.519 --> 00:57:32.320 I was very I think it's very. 1294 00:57:32.199 --> 00:57:36.639 Fantastical and otherworldly to go into this ship that I 1295 00:57:36.639 --> 00:57:37.960 think is like I think you're like on the moon 1296 00:57:38.039 --> 00:57:42.159 or something. So it's definitely a space environment, and they're 1297 00:57:42.159 --> 00:57:45.760 trying to recreate things that you would have in your house, sorry, 1298 00:57:45.840 --> 00:57:49.079 your home life in Middletown, America. 1299 00:57:49.239 --> 00:57:50.840 There's a mall and. 1300 00:57:50.800 --> 00:57:52.800 So like in one of the areas, I'm walking around 1301 00:57:52.800 --> 00:57:54.960 a mall and it has all these different shops, but 1302 00:57:55.000 --> 00:57:56.880 if you look out the window, you'll see Earth. So 1303 00:57:56.960 --> 00:57:59.559 it's just kind of like fascinating in that space. But 1304 00:57:59.679 --> 00:58:02.599 something has gone wrong. Everything's like broken. The shops are 1305 00:58:02.599 --> 00:58:05.360 all busted. You can't find any people anymore, probably because 1306 00:58:05.360 --> 00:58:05.920 they're all dead. 1307 00:58:05.960 --> 00:58:06.280 I don't know. 1308 00:58:06.360 --> 00:58:08.599 I haven't gotten that far, but like I haven't seen 1309 00:58:08.679 --> 00:58:13.440 one human that's alive. And these robots, if they catch you, 1310 00:58:13.480 --> 00:58:15.519 are terrifying. They pick you up and they shake the 1311 00:58:15.519 --> 00:58:17.159 shit out of you and they throw you and if 1312 00:58:17.159 --> 00:58:18.599 they find you enough, they kill you. 1313 00:58:19.119 --> 00:58:19.880 I like the look of them. 1314 00:58:19.920 --> 00:58:21.840 I just googled and do they all have that like 1315 00:58:21.880 --> 00:58:24.719 weird kind of cracked mask face, Like they look creepy. 1316 00:58:24.800 --> 00:58:26.079 Yeah, they are creepy. 1317 00:58:26.280 --> 00:58:30.480 And they've done a great job with the hiding mechanics 1318 00:58:30.480 --> 00:58:32.920 of this game. So if you're into scary games like 1319 00:58:33.000 --> 00:58:34.679 I am, like, you got to have a way to 1320 00:58:34.840 --> 00:58:39.599 avoid them, but still look at them in this game, Crawling, leaning, 1321 00:58:39.960 --> 00:58:43.880 and peeping are a huge mechanic of the game. So 1322 00:58:44.000 --> 00:58:46.320 if you hear them coming, you can hear them. They're 1323 00:58:46.360 --> 00:58:49.800 like cong kung clung. You can hear their little metal 1324 00:58:49.960 --> 00:58:54.760 legs dnking around. You'll hide under something and hope they 1325 00:58:54.760 --> 00:58:59.000 don't see you, and sometimes they'll just still be there, 1326 00:58:59.039 --> 00:59:00.960 but you don't know, so you kind of have to 1327 00:59:01.079 --> 00:59:04.000 like lean. The game has given you all these different 1328 00:59:05.199 --> 00:59:08.960 ways to just peek around a corner or just look 1329 00:59:09.079 --> 00:59:12.719 over something. One of my favorite ones is there's like 1330 00:59:12.760 --> 00:59:16.000 a toolbox or something that I'm hiding under. I can't 1331 00:59:16.079 --> 00:59:19.119 look above or around. All I can do is look below, 1332 00:59:19.800 --> 00:59:22.840 and I just can see their little feet staring, like, 1333 00:59:22.920 --> 00:59:24.880 you know, pointed towards me, and I know if I 1334 00:59:24.960 --> 00:59:26.519 move or make it noise, they're gonna kill me. 1335 00:59:26.559 --> 00:59:28.280 Oh my god. It's pretty scary. 1336 00:59:28.559 --> 00:59:31.000 It sounds kind of like amnesia the way you're describing it. 1337 00:59:31.599 --> 00:59:34.480 I think it has amnesia elements to it. It absolutely 1338 00:59:34.480 --> 00:59:37.639 has gotten progressively scarier. The gun also evolves, which I 1339 00:59:37.639 --> 00:59:40.079 have really appreciated. So again I'm not super far in, 1340 00:59:40.480 --> 00:59:43.280 but the gun has already gotten one evolution that's been 1341 00:59:43.320 --> 00:59:46.159 really helpful. The first evolution of the gun is that 1342 00:59:46.199 --> 00:59:51.000 you shoot it and it can read jiggers mechanics. I 1343 00:59:51.039 --> 00:59:53.320 wish I could be better with my terminology, but you 1344 00:59:53.320 --> 00:59:55.320 shoot it at mechanics and it's like you fixed it. 1345 00:59:55.400 --> 00:59:57.920 You know, this screen wasn't working before, but. 1346 00:59:57.920 --> 01:00:02.679 Now it is. Whatever. The new gun adaptation that. 1347 01:00:02.679 --> 01:00:08.039 I got helps me see. It's like a blue light, 1348 01:00:08.239 --> 01:00:11.199 and so it helps me see different liquids like blood. 1349 01:00:11.639 --> 01:00:14.519 And so I don't want to give away the puzzle, 1350 01:00:14.559 --> 01:00:17.440 but like you, all of a sudden, you'll be able 1351 01:00:17.519 --> 01:00:19.039 to point it at the ground and be like, oh 1352 01:00:19.039 --> 01:00:21.880 my god, somebody was like dragged through here. You could 1353 01:00:21.920 --> 01:00:24.239 follow the blood trail and see what they did to 1354 01:00:24.239 --> 01:00:27.360 get out of the situation, and you'll learn through that 1355 01:00:27.480 --> 01:00:30.119 process how to get out of the mall. In this 1356 01:00:30.239 --> 01:00:33.960 situation right now, I'm in these like home the home barracks. 1357 01:00:34.239 --> 01:00:38.039 So I'm at their home quarters and I'm going through 1358 01:00:38.039 --> 01:00:41.039 the same motions here. I like, I got to find 1359 01:00:41.039 --> 01:00:44.599 out how to get out. I'm locked in and there's 1360 01:00:44.800 --> 01:00:48.719 a mysterious amount of letters and puzzles that I'm following 1361 01:00:49.480 --> 01:00:52.119 to try and figure out a code so that I 1362 01:00:52.119 --> 01:00:53.280 can get the. 1363 01:00:52.960 --> 01:00:56.440 Hell out of here. I think it's very well made. 1364 01:00:56.599 --> 01:00:58.800 My biggest issues with it is like, I'm not sure 1365 01:00:58.880 --> 01:01:01.320 why they put such a strong limit on this gun. 1366 01:01:01.920 --> 01:01:03.480 I feel like they could have put five or six 1367 01:01:03.559 --> 01:01:06.199 charges on it, three charges ahead on your limiting, And 1368 01:01:06.239 --> 01:01:10.440 it prevents me from like testing out theories because I'm like, oh, no, 1369 01:01:10.559 --> 01:01:11.480 I have to put more charges. 1370 01:01:11.679 --> 01:01:12.400 God damn gun. 1371 01:01:14.480 --> 01:01:18.800 I will say, like, sometimes I feel like I could 1372 01:01:18.880 --> 01:01:19.599 use more hints. 1373 01:01:19.760 --> 01:01:24.199 I've gotten, I have figured it out, but. 1374 01:01:25.000 --> 01:01:26.719 There are times where I feel like I need a 1375 01:01:26.760 --> 01:01:32.719 guide or I just need like a little bit more support. Yeah, 1376 01:01:32.840 --> 01:01:35.880 I wish I had like a like a younger kid 1377 01:01:35.920 --> 01:01:39.880 who was like, what what if you just turned the 1378 01:01:39.880 --> 01:01:41.639 wheel so that the water came. 1379 01:01:41.480 --> 01:01:44.320 To better idea? What if your character just talked all 1380 01:01:44.360 --> 01:01:48.360 the time about what you're gonna do next? That'd be great. 1381 01:01:49.360 --> 01:01:51.840 I would rather I mean, actually, that's a really good question. 1382 01:01:51.920 --> 01:01:53.599 This kind of reminds me of the yellow paint thing 1383 01:01:53.639 --> 01:01:55.880 that you know, gamers argue. 1384 01:01:55.639 --> 01:01:58.280 About a lot. But it's like, I would have liked 1385 01:01:58.400 --> 01:01:59.000 more support. 1386 01:01:59.199 --> 01:02:01.880 I suspect if they had given me more support, gamers 1387 01:02:01.880 --> 01:02:02.440 would have been like. 1388 01:02:02.440 --> 01:02:05.119 It's too easy. It is. It is a difficult game. 1389 01:02:05.199 --> 01:02:06.559 It is difficult for two reasons. 1390 01:02:06.599 --> 01:02:11.400 One, the robots are relentless and they absolutely fuck you up, 1391 01:02:11.440 --> 01:02:14.159 and they are terrifying, and they there's no way to 1392 01:02:14.199 --> 01:02:16.119 attack them or do anything about it, so you're just 1393 01:02:16.199 --> 01:02:17.000 constantly running. 1394 01:02:17.039 --> 01:02:18.559 So that is freaky like amnesia. 1395 01:02:18.880 --> 01:02:24.920 Two, the puzzles are just often obtuse and tactical. You know, 1396 01:02:25.119 --> 01:02:27.280 you read a note that leads you to a path 1397 01:02:27.400 --> 01:02:31.519 that leads you to the idea that maybe you should 1398 01:02:31.519 --> 01:02:33.440 be doing it this way, and if you test around enough, 1399 01:02:33.440 --> 01:02:36.440 you'll figure it out. You'll need a code to get 1400 01:02:36.840 --> 01:02:39.800 you know, a bobble that'll get you, a key that'll 1401 01:02:39.800 --> 01:02:41.920 get you lah blah blah. Like it's it's tough, but 1402 01:02:43.000 --> 01:02:47.079 I love it. I think it's extremely well constructed. I 1403 01:02:47.159 --> 01:02:51.000 believe this is a raw Fury. It's cool for like 1404 01:02:52.000 --> 01:02:56.400 a game of this magnitude to succeed in the manner 1405 01:02:56.400 --> 01:02:57.679 that it is trying to succeed. 1406 01:02:57.920 --> 01:03:00.760 I think Raw Fury made blueprints, if the hell if that. 1407 01:03:01.159 --> 01:03:04.400 I think they published it so like they've made stuff 1408 01:03:04.400 --> 01:03:06.519 that I've liked before. I think this is like a 1409 01:03:06.639 --> 01:03:11.400 nice similar caliber of like quality, high high quality execution 1410 01:03:11.599 --> 01:03:14.800 of a horror game that scares the p out of me. 1411 01:03:15.400 --> 01:03:17.360 I The only reason I think I will not finish 1412 01:03:17.360 --> 01:03:19.119 this is because I think it's a little it's kind 1413 01:03:19.119 --> 01:03:20.559 of so scary, like amnesia. 1414 01:03:20.800 --> 01:03:23.880 I need a break. I don't want to feel this 1415 01:03:23.960 --> 01:03:24.800 way all the time. 1416 01:03:25.960 --> 01:03:31.440 But very good, nice yead it looks it like, just 1417 01:03:31.519 --> 01:03:32.519 looks good. 1418 01:03:32.920 --> 01:03:36.440 People who like Alien would like this game. It's got 1419 01:03:36.480 --> 01:03:37.519 all the same vibes. 1420 01:03:40.039 --> 01:03:44.679 I went back overbreak to replay, retry a few games. 1421 01:03:44.800 --> 01:03:45.400 I played more. 1422 01:03:45.800 --> 01:03:51.000 I played Shadow Gambit again, that overhead stealth game from right. 1423 01:03:52.599 --> 01:03:55.599 I still love that game, did you? 1424 01:03:56.760 --> 01:03:58.159 It was just that time of year when I was like, 1425 01:03:58.199 --> 01:04:01.079 I just I had ate most of what I wanted 1426 01:04:01.119 --> 01:04:03.400 to from last year minus two. I still need to 1427 01:04:03.440 --> 01:04:07.199 play Kingdom Cum Deliverance too, and I want to play 1428 01:04:07.280 --> 01:04:10.280 Metrod Prime four Still. I just didn't have the energy 1429 01:04:10.360 --> 01:04:12.800 to start a new game, so I was just kind 1430 01:04:12.800 --> 01:04:14.639 of looking through Steam like, oh, Shadow game, I love 1431 01:04:14.679 --> 01:04:17.400 that game. Got stucked into that for a few hours overbreak, 1432 01:04:17.599 --> 01:04:20.239 and then the game I played the most over break 1433 01:04:20.360 --> 01:04:21.360 was They Are Billions. 1434 01:04:22.360 --> 01:04:28.599 Went back to the Rats Zombies thee there's a rat 1435 01:04:28.639 --> 01:04:30.800 one where it's like a tower not tower defense. It's 1436 01:04:30.800 --> 01:04:35.480 like an RTS and a bunch of rats. No you're 1437 01:04:36.480 --> 01:04:38.519 we talked about this. It was a PC game we 1438 01:04:38.559 --> 01:04:40.480 first started the podcast. It was like you build a 1439 01:04:40.519 --> 01:04:42.360 base and then a bunch of fucking rats come in 1440 01:04:42.559 --> 01:04:47.920 and waves and you gotta like protect your base. Oh no, 1441 01:04:47.960 --> 01:04:51.400 it's like an it's like a command of concer view. 1442 01:04:51.639 --> 01:04:53.679 I could have sworn it was there billions. 1443 01:04:53.960 --> 01:04:56.480 They are billions. There's swarms of them. But they're zombies, 1444 01:04:56.480 --> 01:04:56.960 not rats. 1445 01:04:58.559 --> 01:05:00.199 Are you sure they're not rats? 1446 01:05:00.239 --> 01:05:00.719 Positive? 1447 01:05:01.559 --> 01:05:03.239 I'm looking at it now. It's definitely their billions. 1448 01:05:03.519 --> 01:05:07.280 Yeah, yeah, okay, yeah, I replayed this game. But they're 1449 01:05:07.280 --> 01:05:08.039 not rats. 1450 01:05:07.760 --> 01:05:09.360 Though, or you were talking about a game, so I 1451 01:05:09.440 --> 01:05:11.480 just assumed it was rats. Oh yeah, very fair. 1452 01:05:11.639 --> 01:05:14.519 I mean, I mean it's it's such an easy like 1453 01:05:14.760 --> 01:05:18.679 art exchange too, Like you could really replace zombies with 1454 01:05:18.800 --> 01:05:19.599 rats at any point. 1455 01:05:19.639 --> 01:05:19.880 Yeah. 1456 01:05:19.960 --> 01:05:21.239 Yeah, things scrawling around. 1457 01:05:21.320 --> 01:05:21.760 Yeah. 1458 01:05:21.800 --> 01:05:24.719 I got sucked into that game for like twelve hours overbreak. 1459 01:05:26.280 --> 01:05:28.159 I still love it. If we've talked about in the 1460 01:05:28.199 --> 01:05:30.559 podcast before I wrote about it, or I talked about 1461 01:05:30.559 --> 01:05:32.440 it at a game spot came out a while ago. 1462 01:05:32.440 --> 01:05:34.239 I want to say it was twenty seventeen, same year's 1463 01:05:34.239 --> 01:05:37.159 Breath of the Wild nineteen. 1464 01:05:37.559 --> 01:05:40.519 That's seventeen was breath the will right. I think this 1465 01:05:40.559 --> 01:05:43.679 came out in early access in twenty seventeen. Launched twenty nineteen. 1466 01:05:44.039 --> 01:05:48.159 The campaign I don't fucking touch it sucked. The Survivor 1467 01:05:48.760 --> 01:05:51.920 Survivor mode, which is just the OG mode, but yeah, 1468 01:05:51.920 --> 01:05:54.599 it's if you are if you turtle in real time 1469 01:05:54.599 --> 01:05:56.559 strategy games, this is the game for you. They literally 1470 01:05:56.800 --> 01:05:58.599 were like, we know people like to play that way, 1471 01:05:58.679 --> 01:06:02.000 play tall more or focused on defense and slow expansion 1472 01:06:02.039 --> 01:06:04.480 and covering all of your possible avenues of approach, and 1473 01:06:04.480 --> 01:06:05.960 they're like, we're going to make a game about this. 1474 01:06:06.480 --> 01:06:10.199 And I was trying very hard to beat the most 1475 01:06:10.199 --> 01:06:15.000 difficult map. There are three different difficulty options you can tweak. 1476 01:06:15.440 --> 01:06:17.800 You only unlock the next map if you have a 1477 01:06:17.960 --> 01:06:21.800 score factor of one hundred percent or higher. So you 1478 01:06:21.840 --> 01:06:24.039 can say, Okay, I want the zombie population on the 1479 01:06:24.119 --> 01:06:29.960 map to be medium, but I want to only have 1480 01:06:30.079 --> 01:06:33.960 one hundred and twenty days to survive. And then you 1481 01:06:34.000 --> 01:06:36.760 can tweak those two and raising or lowering them will 1482 01:06:36.840 --> 01:06:38.840 change the score factor as long as you have a 1483 01:06:38.840 --> 01:06:41.480 score factor one hundred percent or above with some combination 1484 01:06:41.679 --> 01:06:47.159 of map population, the number of days you need to survive, 1485 01:06:47.280 --> 01:06:49.760 and there's one more. I'm forgetting it. You unlock the 1486 01:06:49.800 --> 01:06:51.599 next map. I unlock the most difficult map. I was 1487 01:06:51.639 --> 01:06:55.519 trying it. I fucking The zombies are more irritable because 1488 01:06:55.519 --> 01:06:57.559 it's in a desert, so they're more likely to swarm 1489 01:06:57.599 --> 01:07:01.440 your base for no reason outside of the big waves, 1490 01:07:01.920 --> 01:07:05.239 So it makes covering all those potential nooks and crannies 1491 01:07:05.239 --> 01:07:08.079 they can sneak into your base from all the more stressful. 1492 01:07:08.360 --> 01:07:13.199 I'm sure there's some uh, there's some secret sauce that 1493 01:07:13.239 --> 01:07:17.400 I'll find that will help. But I will say I 1494 01:07:17.519 --> 01:07:20.239 like the game more on the mid difficulty maps because 1495 01:07:20.239 --> 01:07:24.760 on the higher difficulty maps, I feel way more inclined 1496 01:07:24.800 --> 01:07:27.599 to restart immediately if I don't get a favorable map. 1497 01:07:28.079 --> 01:07:30.800 It is a rogue light the map design, and I 1498 01:07:30.800 --> 01:07:33.159 don't like doing that. Like in Civilization. I never did that, 1499 01:07:33.199 --> 01:07:35.000 even though if I even if I started on a 1500 01:07:35.039 --> 01:07:36.800 shitty island, I'm like, let's just see what happens. The 1501 01:07:36.840 --> 01:07:39.840 emergent scenarios that'll come out of that. They are billions. 1502 01:07:39.880 --> 01:07:41.679 The hardest map, I'm like, all right, this sucks. I 1503 01:07:41.679 --> 01:07:44.280 don't have enough food near me, no forests, no ponds 1504 01:07:44.360 --> 01:07:47.920 to gather food like I need to restart immediately, just 1505 01:07:47.960 --> 01:07:52.880 so much less smaller margin of error. But I still 1506 01:07:52.920 --> 01:07:55.920 love that game. It's one of the of the last decade. 1507 01:07:55.920 --> 01:07:59.079 Definitely way up there for me. They stopped, they stopped 1508 01:07:59.079 --> 01:08:01.360 supporting it a while ago. They're working on like a 1509 01:08:01.400 --> 01:08:05.039 full fledged role playing game now, Numantium. They're a Spanish studio. 1510 01:08:05.920 --> 01:08:09.159 I don't you know, I don't know. Good luck to them, 1511 01:08:09.840 --> 01:08:11.920 but I wish they would have done more with this 1512 01:08:12.360 --> 01:08:15.599 because I love it. Dann, what else you been playing? 1513 01:08:16.520 --> 01:08:19.479 I mean, I put a few games down on this list, 1514 01:08:19.479 --> 01:08:21.960 but the reality of it is, I am still in 1515 01:08:22.000 --> 01:08:24.279 the sectory hole, the likes of which I have not 1516 01:08:24.359 --> 01:08:27.680 seen in years. It is I just got to nine million, 1517 01:08:27.960 --> 01:08:30.319 So I'm at like nine million right now. Grub is 1518 01:08:30.359 --> 01:08:33.039 it ten million? Jacob Geller is at like twelve million? 1519 01:08:33.119 --> 01:08:33.920 Is that a high score? 1520 01:08:35.359 --> 01:08:35.840 What do you mean? 1521 01:08:36.359 --> 01:08:40.239 What do you Is that your high score? Or you're okay, okay, gosh. 1522 01:08:40.119 --> 01:08:44.359 Yes, yeah, yeah, so I am. It is such a 1523 01:08:44.760 --> 01:08:48.039 on a surface simple game that like I just keep playing, 1524 01:08:48.079 --> 01:08:50.359 like I'm I've played sixty seventy hours of this now, 1525 01:08:50.439 --> 01:08:53.119 and it's like I am still just like, oh, I 1526 01:08:53.239 --> 01:08:54.960 just had the Eureka moment that like, I've been doing 1527 01:08:54.960 --> 01:08:56.640 this wrong the entire time. I need to make it 1528 01:08:56.680 --> 01:08:59.479 all about this or the strike combos or wait, here's 1529 01:08:59.479 --> 01:09:01.079 a great way to extend the straight combos. 1530 01:09:01.159 --> 01:09:03.119 Or it's just have you done the thing I told 1531 01:09:03.159 --> 01:09:04.680 you too? Or you fucked up your car, you mix 1532 01:09:04.760 --> 01:09:05.640 up your cards. 1533 01:09:06.079 --> 01:09:07.920 I didn't mix up the card. I tried the chaos thing. 1534 01:09:08.520 --> 01:09:10.840 That is interesting. The only thing I didn't. I think 1535 01:09:10.880 --> 01:09:12.800 the reason I turned it off is because I like 1536 01:09:12.880 --> 01:09:16.800 the stack shuffle thing, but you don't get scores for 1537 01:09:16.920 --> 01:09:20.439 just normal enemy kills if you do that, I think. 1538 01:09:20.920 --> 01:09:22.760 Yeah, it's a huge differentiator. 1539 01:09:22.920 --> 01:09:23.520 Yeah, that's so. 1540 01:09:23.600 --> 01:09:25.520 It's like, if I'm going for score, it's like, well, okay, 1541 01:09:25.560 --> 01:09:27.800 I love the idea of like blaster being the first 1542 01:09:27.920 --> 01:09:29.720 upgrade or something, but like if it means I'm not 1543 01:09:29.800 --> 01:09:32.479 kidding a score for everything else, I just can't do that. 1544 01:09:32.720 --> 01:09:33.479 It is really. 1545 01:09:33.239 --> 01:09:37.680 Interesting, though, let me find hold on my friend list. 1546 01:09:38.039 --> 01:09:40.399 I was playing Sectory the other day at the bar. 1547 01:09:40.560 --> 01:09:43.239 I beat it, by the way, Oh nice, nice, I 1548 01:09:43.279 --> 01:09:47.239 finally like one on the experience. Yeah, but like my 1549 01:09:47.520 --> 01:09:50.439 score wasn't even that high. I feel like if you're 1550 01:09:50.479 --> 01:09:52.199 going for score, like who gives a shit if you 1551 01:09:52.239 --> 01:09:52.920 win the games? 1552 01:09:53.119 --> 01:09:54.399 Were you buying shields? 1553 01:09:55.479 --> 01:10:00.000 I didn't buy shields, but I did the chaos mode, 1554 01:10:00.439 --> 01:10:02.039 so my score wasn't as hot. 1555 01:10:02.079 --> 01:10:02.640 That's a problem. 1556 01:10:02.800 --> 01:10:03.560 That's a problem. 1557 01:10:03.640 --> 01:10:05.159 Yeah, I fucking hear you. 1558 01:10:07.039 --> 01:10:12.159 Where's unsolicited advice? Really rubs merry the right way? 1559 01:10:12.479 --> 01:10:14.960 I've already heard that's where you're sucking up. 1560 01:10:15.000 --> 01:10:17.640 That's right, it's stupid, classic classic fuck ups. 1561 01:10:17.640 --> 01:10:20.279 Where are your manamar on idiots? 1562 01:10:21.800 --> 01:10:25.479 Grub fucking messaged me to tell it to give you 1563 01:10:25.520 --> 01:10:26.199 advice as well. 1564 01:10:26.640 --> 01:10:28.439 Hey Mary, by okay, I saw where you're going wrong. 1565 01:10:28.479 --> 01:10:29.840 I just want to say, you're a fucking idiot. But 1566 01:10:29.880 --> 01:10:31.079 also here's differently. 1567 01:10:31.479 --> 01:10:34.800 Grub never fucking dms me. I'm playing this game, I 1568 01:10:34.840 --> 01:10:36.399 get a d M and I check it and it 1569 01:10:36.520 --> 01:10:38.920 just says you'll never get ten million? 1570 01:10:40.279 --> 01:10:41.079 What a fuck? 1571 01:10:41.560 --> 01:10:45.640 All it says, fuck you, Grub, and I went back 1572 01:10:45.680 --> 01:10:47.880 to the grind. I'm still stuck at three and a 1573 01:10:47.880 --> 01:10:51.359 half million, but hard just dming me. 1574 01:10:51.439 --> 01:10:53.760 That is so rude, all right, Mary? 1575 01:10:53.960 --> 01:10:56.119 I I talked to Kime was on content or not 1576 01:10:56.279 --> 01:10:57.760 this week, but I asked him, I was like, if 1577 01:10:57.800 --> 01:10:59.880 I beat your score, would this be like a problem? 1578 01:10:59.880 --> 01:11:02.359 For you, like, would you fixate on this? And he's like, oh, absolutely, 1579 01:11:02.359 --> 01:11:05.079 would consume my life, And so we need one of 1580 01:11:05.119 --> 01:11:06.960 us needs to top Jeff Grubb. 1581 01:11:07.159 --> 01:11:10.399 He's a ghoul. He'll never let it go. You have 1582 01:11:10.520 --> 01:11:11.159 to kill him. 1583 01:11:11.279 --> 01:11:14.600 I don't know if I'm powerful enough, and he's He 1584 01:11:14.760 --> 01:11:19.319 has sparked an anger within me so deep that I 1585 01:11:19.319 --> 01:11:23.000 would like to destroy him. But I will admit privately 1586 01:11:23.439 --> 01:11:26.640 in this podcast that I am afraid of him because 1587 01:11:26.680 --> 01:11:30.840 every time shut up, every time there is a friend 1588 01:11:31.159 --> 01:11:34.159 mode where you can compare your scores, Grub is like. 1589 01:11:34.560 --> 01:11:37.119 One in the world. 1590 01:11:37.279 --> 01:11:40.159 No, Geller's better than him, and I will beat him. 1591 01:11:40.239 --> 01:11:41.159 I will be Grub. 1592 01:11:41.680 --> 01:11:44.560 He's just human. All humans can be killed. 1593 01:11:44.800 --> 01:11:46.399 I beat him in an astrobot. I can beat him 1594 01:11:46.399 --> 01:11:49.119 at this Like all, okay, So here's my question. 1595 01:11:49.199 --> 01:11:50.720 You two played this game more than me. I love 1596 01:11:50.760 --> 01:11:52.520 this game. It was high up my list last year. 1597 01:11:52.920 --> 01:11:55.439 What and this might be a loaded question, so please 1598 01:11:55.479 --> 01:11:57.680 tell me if it is. What is Geller doing? Does 1599 01:11:57.720 --> 01:12:00.680 he understand mechanics better or is he just better at 1600 01:12:00.720 --> 01:12:01.079 the game? 1601 01:12:01.319 --> 01:12:03.760 So there is a whole other ways to play that 1602 01:12:03.840 --> 01:12:06.479 I probably played fifty hours before I realized and then Finally, 1603 01:12:06.520 --> 01:12:08.079 I was like, because like, not a lot of people 1604 01:12:08.119 --> 01:12:10.199 are playing this game, so there's not a lot of 1605 01:12:10.319 --> 01:12:12.840 good guides or anything. There's like two Reddit threads I've 1606 01:12:12.840 --> 01:12:15.399 looked at twenty times, and they don't help that much. 1607 01:12:16.159 --> 01:12:18.880 It's not even that impressive that Grub has the score 1608 01:12:18.920 --> 01:12:21.159 that he has. I feel like if the world actually 1609 01:12:21.279 --> 01:12:24.000 investigated it, it would have been beaten by now. 1610 01:12:24.520 --> 01:12:27.119 And we will and we will. And I was in 1611 01:12:27.239 --> 01:12:29.640 the research, I know you do you tell me this 1612 01:12:29.680 --> 01:12:30.319 privately always. 1613 01:12:30.399 --> 01:12:31.560 That's why I wanted to beat his. 1614 01:12:31.680 --> 01:12:34.439 In the privacy in this personal podcast. 1615 01:12:34.600 --> 01:12:37.600 I wanted to know that you have to destroy him. 1616 01:12:37.680 --> 01:12:40.800 Oh, I know, yes, And I was researching. I looked 1617 01:12:40.840 --> 01:12:42.840 up there was a because I'm playing on challenging mode now, 1618 01:12:43.159 --> 01:12:45.279 like medium difficulty, and that's the one that like all 1619 01:12:45.319 --> 01:12:47.680 the top scorers are on challenging mode. So I looked 1620 01:12:47.760 --> 01:12:48.920 up like a high score and it was like a 1621 01:12:48.920 --> 01:12:51.399 twenty eight million dollars or eight million point run. 1622 01:12:51.880 --> 01:12:52.119 Man. 1623 01:12:52.920 --> 01:12:55.560 I watched and like immediately this guy was doing shit. 1624 01:12:55.600 --> 01:12:57.439 I was like, what is I played so much in 1625 01:12:57.439 --> 01:12:59.000 this game? What is he even doing? Why is he 1626 01:12:59.479 --> 01:13:01.000 striking into nothing? 1627 01:13:01.119 --> 01:13:01.319 You know? 1628 01:13:01.359 --> 01:13:02.199 Why is he doing this? 1629 01:13:02.239 --> 01:13:05.399 And then I started realizing, like, oh fuck, he's just 1630 01:13:05.479 --> 01:13:07.680 trying to get that strike combo up because I'm challenging. 1631 01:13:07.680 --> 01:13:09.560 You can get it up to a ten times multiplier 1632 01:13:10.039 --> 01:13:11.840 and you don't have to hit anything, you don't have 1633 01:13:11.880 --> 01:13:14.920 to dash into a token. Just the act of striking 1634 01:13:15.199 --> 01:13:17.359 will up your strike combo and keep it going. 1635 01:13:17.680 --> 01:13:19.399 So to just constantly be striking. 1636 01:13:19.479 --> 01:13:22.039 Oh yeah, but here's the thing, because you don't have 1637 01:13:22.199 --> 01:13:25.279 enough time to recharge naturally an entire strike and do 1638 01:13:25.319 --> 01:13:25.680 it again. 1639 01:13:25.960 --> 01:13:27.119 So here's how you do it. 1640 01:13:27.199 --> 01:13:30.720 You strike into nothing, Okay, that gives you one strike multiplier, 1641 01:13:31.199 --> 01:13:33.439 and then you get a token. You get one of 1642 01:13:33.479 --> 01:13:36.239 the selector tokens, and let's say it's speed or whatever. 1643 01:13:36.279 --> 01:13:39.239 You know, you apply it and whenever you apply an upgrade, 1644 01:13:39.600 --> 01:13:42.960 it instantly recharges your shield. Sure, so that's a way 1645 01:13:43.000 --> 01:13:45.439 you can kind of keep that chain going. And so 1646 01:13:45.600 --> 01:13:47.720 now I think it is all about just trying to 1647 01:13:47.760 --> 01:13:51.159 get that strike combo up and keeping it up. And 1648 01:13:51.439 --> 01:13:54.720 that's how you do it. It's interesting trying to get better 1649 01:13:54.800 --> 01:13:58.199 that and how he's playing or I haven't seen any 1650 01:13:58.239 --> 01:14:05.199 gallers no doing. I think I've challenge us doing interesting. 1651 01:14:05.760 --> 01:14:08.760 He beat uh, he beat a run unchallenging, and like, 1652 01:14:08.800 --> 01:14:10.239 I have not done that. I've gotten to like the 1653 01:14:10.319 --> 01:14:13.600 very last part. But if I would have beaten that run, 1654 01:14:13.680 --> 01:14:14.279 I probably would. 1655 01:14:14.760 --> 01:14:16.680 Yeah, because it's obvious if you pay play it on 1656 01:14:16.720 --> 01:14:21.399 a more difficult difficulty, you accrue more points. 1657 01:14:20.760 --> 01:14:23.399 Way more stuff to shoot, and that multiplier goes up 1658 01:14:23.439 --> 01:14:25.359 to ten, whereas on the first difficulty he goes up 1659 01:14:25.399 --> 01:14:25.720 to five. 1660 01:14:26.279 --> 01:14:26.640 Mmmm. 1661 01:14:28.680 --> 01:14:31.199 So I'm like, I want to say, I'm like sixty 1662 01:14:31.239 --> 01:14:33.720 something in the world. Grub is like thirty something in 1663 01:14:33.760 --> 01:14:35.560 the world, and Geller is in the top like twelve 1664 01:14:35.600 --> 01:14:35.960 or something. 1665 01:14:36.159 --> 01:14:39.439 I'm like one than six hundred and twenty ninth, which 1666 01:14:39.439 --> 01:14:41.119 I make good for Mary. 1667 01:14:41.279 --> 01:14:42.319 Let's keep working at it. 1668 01:14:43.960 --> 01:14:44.319 Grub. 1669 01:14:44.640 --> 01:14:45.760 It's it's just so fucking good. 1670 01:14:45.760 --> 01:14:47.079 But anyway, I didn't put it on my list this 1671 01:14:47.119 --> 01:14:48.880 week because like, that's I mean, that is the main thing. 1672 01:14:48.920 --> 01:14:50.479 Like I will sit down and be like, all right, 1673 01:14:50.479 --> 01:14:52.119 I'm going to set a rule for myself. I'm gonna 1674 01:14:52.119 --> 01:14:54.880 do three runs, and I'll do three runs. Well those 1675 01:14:54.920 --> 01:14:56.840 those don't count. It's like, okay, next time I get 1676 01:14:56.840 --> 01:14:58.520 a run where I at least go past the boss 1677 01:14:58.560 --> 01:15:00.720 and don't die, And it's like and I'll die and 1678 01:15:00.760 --> 01:15:02.920 it's like and then literally six hours later, I'm just 1679 01:15:02.960 --> 01:15:05.199 like my eye out and. 1680 01:15:04.880 --> 01:15:05.479 I'm the same. 1681 01:15:05.720 --> 01:15:07.840 What I will say is like, there are all sorts 1682 01:15:07.840 --> 01:15:09.760 of games that I like to sit down and play. 1683 01:15:10.560 --> 01:15:12.279 We're talking about them right like, he's like, Oh, it's 1684 01:15:12.319 --> 01:15:14.920 my Friday night, it's my day after work. I'm going 1685 01:15:15.000 --> 01:15:17.680 to just sit and play this game. What I like 1686 01:15:17.720 --> 01:15:20.680 about Sectory is I could be at a bar with 1687 01:15:20.720 --> 01:15:23.199 my steam Deck, which is actually when I beat it, 1688 01:15:23.640 --> 01:15:25.399 and I was like, I have time for a couple 1689 01:15:25.399 --> 01:15:27.159 of runs. I'm just drinking a beer and I'm like, 1690 01:15:27.199 --> 01:15:29.720 sitting here with my steam Deck. You can play this 1691 01:15:29.920 --> 01:15:34.399 very casually but also very aggressively. This game lends itself 1692 01:15:34.479 --> 01:15:36.720 to the casual backseat of a car. 1693 01:15:37.359 --> 01:15:39.520 What I have, What I have like ten minutes mine 1694 01:15:39.560 --> 01:15:40.039 as well. 1695 01:15:40.640 --> 01:15:43.359 Yeah, I'm a Sectory snob. I got lunch with Ben 1696 01:15:43.399 --> 01:15:46.800 Hansen this weekend and we're talking about this and he's like, oh, yeah, 1697 01:15:46.840 --> 01:15:48.279 I love this, Yeah, I'll play it when it's like 1698 01:15:48.279 --> 01:15:50.359 I've heard several people bring up like it's my treadmill game, 1699 01:15:50.359 --> 01:15:52.680 where it's my workout game, where it's my he said 1700 01:15:52.680 --> 01:15:54.479 something along those lines. I'm like, Oh, then you're not 1701 01:15:54.520 --> 01:15:56.399 like really playing, you. 1702 01:15:58.039 --> 01:15:59.399 Know, like I gotta give it. 1703 01:15:59.399 --> 01:16:01.840 Wait yeah wait, I got to get his username and 1704 01:16:01.840 --> 01:16:04.920 then dm M and say you'll never get my score. 1705 01:16:05.560 --> 01:16:07.520 Oh I cannot imagine. I don't am I not even 1706 01:16:07.600 --> 01:16:09.239 Steam friends with Hanson. I might not be. I haven't 1707 01:16:09.239 --> 01:16:10.079 seen him on the way. 1708 01:16:10.119 --> 01:16:10.920 It's just so funny. 1709 01:16:11.119 --> 01:16:13.239 I find that funny too, Like I've been friends with 1710 01:16:13.239 --> 01:16:15.720 people for years and we've like at game Spot, we've 1711 01:16:15.760 --> 01:16:17.199 like worked together, and I'll be like, oh my god, 1712 01:16:17.239 --> 01:16:20.000 we're not friends on Steam, like not always because I 1713 01:16:20.079 --> 01:16:23.680 used I used a work account sometimes for games, so it's. 1714 01:16:23.520 --> 01:16:26.479 Oh, I'm not Yeah, I don't play multiplayer games really, 1715 01:16:26.520 --> 01:16:28.720 So like my best friends, I'm probably not you know, 1716 01:16:28.800 --> 01:16:32.640 Steam friends with. And also Hanson is Hanson knows more 1717 01:16:32.640 --> 01:16:35.239 about games than anyone I or the making of games 1718 01:16:35.239 --> 01:16:37.079 anyone I've ever met. He's not good at them, so 1719 01:16:37.079 --> 01:16:39.000 don't worry about his score. Like, Hanson is a non 1720 01:16:39.039 --> 01:16:41.039 factor in terms of a score challenge. Focus on grub. 1721 01:16:41.600 --> 01:16:43.640 I always am focused. 1722 01:16:43.199 --> 01:16:45.600 On Hampson's not a serious person when it comes to this. 1723 01:16:45.920 --> 01:16:50.479 Hanson's not a serious No, he's not speaking of what 1724 01:16:50.520 --> 01:16:50.760 are you? 1725 01:16:50.880 --> 01:16:51.119 Yeah? 1726 01:16:51.640 --> 01:16:55.159 I where's I saw you posted the who wants to 1727 01:16:55.159 --> 01:16:57.039 be a grubby and Air? I never got my cutoff 1728 01:16:57.079 --> 01:16:58.640 grubbers or whatever you want to call him. 1729 01:16:59.039 --> 01:17:03.680 Oh, I didn't either, God fucking grub Jesus Christ, Yeah, married. 1730 01:17:03.720 --> 01:17:04.479 Do you know what happened? 1731 01:17:05.079 --> 01:17:05.680 Grubby and Air? 1732 01:17:05.760 --> 01:17:07.600 And Dan was on who wants to be a grubbing Air? 1733 01:17:07.640 --> 01:17:10.199 And on the final question for a million grubbers? He 1734 01:17:10.319 --> 01:17:13.279 called me for the lifeline and I gave him the 1735 01:17:13.319 --> 01:17:16.279 correct answer. And I haven't seen a red scent from. 1736 01:17:16.079 --> 01:17:17.720 I mean I haven't either, So I'll cut you in 1737 01:17:17.760 --> 01:17:20.680 one scrub based Nati, We don't know the value called 1738 01:17:20.720 --> 01:17:23.640 him Mike was what he was like bommed in the 1739 01:17:23.680 --> 01:17:27.439 video that you didn't call him for that question? It 1740 01:17:28.199 --> 01:17:32.039 seems like a mic question Mike Maharty, Oh, yeah, gotcha. 1741 01:17:32.119 --> 01:17:35.039 If I was going for a million dollars, even if 1742 01:17:35.039 --> 01:17:37.600 I without knowing the question, I think Mike would be 1743 01:17:37.600 --> 01:17:38.199 on my list. 1744 01:17:38.640 --> 01:17:42.800 Maharty, Yes, why naughty would Yeah? If I didn't know 1745 01:17:42.840 --> 01:17:43.520 what color. 1746 01:17:43.520 --> 01:17:47.079 Mickey were in nineteen seventy two, I'll call Manati. 1747 01:17:46.720 --> 01:17:52.439 But extensive uh information about Disney. I am looking for 1748 01:17:52.479 --> 01:17:55.800 someone who has a general knowledge about most things like. 1749 01:17:55.960 --> 01:18:00.520 History, A serious person yeah. Yeah, that's I don't know 1750 01:18:00.520 --> 01:18:03.600 how to take that. Would rather be the weirdo who 1751 01:18:03.600 --> 01:18:05.079 knows too much about one thing. 1752 01:18:06.159 --> 01:18:07.439 Then well a little bit. 1753 01:18:08.000 --> 01:18:12.560 You're the adult in the room, deal with it. But yeah, 1754 01:18:12.720 --> 01:18:14.600 and you never talked to us about the games you 1755 01:18:14.680 --> 01:18:15.399 actually were playing. 1756 01:18:15.439 --> 01:18:17.319 Oh yeah, yeah, which, by the way, real quick, what 1757 01:18:17.319 --> 01:18:19.560 we're talking about Marty and Manati. I did say to 1758 01:18:19.680 --> 01:18:22.520 someone in the last week. I said, at this point, 1759 01:18:22.560 --> 01:18:24.079 and tell me, Mike if you think this is true. 1760 01:18:24.279 --> 01:18:27.520 I said, at this point, Maharti is more wine than 1761 01:18:27.640 --> 01:18:32.880 Manati is Disney Ooh, I think No, it's not a 1762 01:18:32.920 --> 01:18:34.640 dig at all. I'm just saying in terms of just 1763 01:18:34.720 --> 01:18:37.520 like absolute, like deep knowledge fixation. 1764 01:18:38.880 --> 01:18:41.439 That's where my focus is for sure. Yeah. Yeah, I 1765 01:18:41.720 --> 01:18:42.000 don't know. 1766 01:18:42.199 --> 01:18:46.520 NAUGHTI has a fridge in his house that is perfectly 1767 01:18:46.600 --> 01:18:49.960 temperature to shove all of the Disney characters into. 1768 01:18:50.960 --> 01:18:52.279 I have to. 1769 01:18:56.600 --> 01:18:59.079 No, definitely pretty laser focused on it. But I don't 1770 01:18:59.119 --> 01:19:00.760 know how much he's into Doney. I know he's really 1771 01:19:00.800 --> 01:19:04.199 into it, but oh, really interesting. I wonder if there's 1772 01:19:04.199 --> 01:19:05.039 a way to test that. 1773 01:19:05.079 --> 01:19:08.640 Who's like to test your wine knowledge versus his Disney knowledge? 1774 01:19:08.720 --> 01:19:08.920 Yeah? 1775 01:19:08.920 --> 01:19:11.840 I think that would be interesting or like imagine that. Yeah, 1776 01:19:11.880 --> 01:19:14.399 you wine, Minati Disney and like me wrestling, you know, 1777 01:19:14.680 --> 01:19:16.039 like put that all against each other. 1778 01:19:17.800 --> 01:19:19.920 I will say competition. 1779 01:19:20.239 --> 01:19:22.520 I will say just because of how long it's been around. 1780 01:19:22.520 --> 01:19:25.079 I think there's more to know about wine, like I'm 1781 01:19:25.119 --> 01:19:28.680 never going to ever know everything about it. Disney I 1782 01:19:28.720 --> 01:19:30.319 think is maybe doable. 1783 01:19:31.359 --> 01:19:34.520 Wrestling Mike has done it. Yeah, I definitely don't know much. 1784 01:19:34.600 --> 01:19:37.000 Like I know a very specific chunk of wrestling, but 1785 01:19:37.000 --> 01:19:40.000 like I don't know anyth much jappening he's wrestling. There's 1786 01:19:40.039 --> 01:19:41.039 so much I don't know. 1787 01:19:41.239 --> 01:19:43.800 So yeah, that's the thing too. It's like wrestling, Wine 1788 01:19:43.920 --> 01:19:54.880 is global, Disney. Disney is Florida, true tendrils that went out. 1789 01:19:54.920 --> 01:19:57.000 But it's not like people are making Disney movies in 1790 01:19:57.039 --> 01:19:57.840 every country. 1791 01:19:57.960 --> 01:19:59.239 I mean, Walt Disney. 1792 01:19:59.359 --> 01:20:02.800 Just Disney products feel very Florida in nature, don't they. 1793 01:20:02.880 --> 01:20:08.199 Yeah? Yeah, it reeks of alligators and mosquitoes and yeah, 1794 01:20:08.239 --> 01:20:12.760 old people, alcoholic slushies, the games. 1795 01:20:12.800 --> 01:20:18.840 I have been playing New Orleans. I can't wait. I 1796 01:20:18.880 --> 01:20:22.079 can't wait. American we say that that we're going there. Okay, 1797 01:20:22.159 --> 01:20:24.199 Mary and I are going to New Orleans soon, and 1798 01:20:24.479 --> 01:20:26.439 I've been planning the trip, and it will be my 1799 01:20:26.479 --> 01:20:29.680 sixth time, it'll be Mary's first. And oh my god, 1800 01:20:31.720 --> 01:20:33.640 Mary's been, right, Mike, you had. 1801 01:20:33.479 --> 01:20:37.119 Not ten years ten years since I've gone. 1802 01:20:37.359 --> 01:20:39.439 Okay, I've gone six times in the last ten years. 1803 01:20:39.479 --> 01:20:42.960 So yeah, yeah, it's been ages since I've been. But 1804 01:20:43.000 --> 01:20:44.600 I love it well, I can't wait. 1805 01:20:44.640 --> 01:20:46.560 So anyway, very excited about that. We'll have stories from 1806 01:20:46.560 --> 01:20:49.399 there for sure. The games I have been playing the 1807 01:20:49.479 --> 01:20:52.159 one thing it's been dabbling. It's been dabbling because again 1808 01:20:52.239 --> 01:20:57.119 Sectory is taking up everything with big hops is a 1809 01:20:57.279 --> 01:20:58.199 game about a. 1810 01:20:58.079 --> 01:21:03.279 Frog and he jumps around Mary already. Yep, yep. 1811 01:21:03.359 --> 01:21:04.880 It's a cute little frog that hops on. 1812 01:21:04.960 --> 01:21:05.239 Marry. 1813 01:21:05.239 --> 01:21:09.119 This seems prime for a Mary stream. H you're your 1814 01:21:09.359 --> 01:21:11.319 frog that hops around. He's got a tongue that he 1815 01:21:11.439 --> 01:21:13.880 uses to grapple, lot of things. He can wall run and. 1816 01:21:13.920 --> 01:21:16.880 You can a bar is a lily pad, get out. 1817 01:21:17.600 --> 01:21:18.560 It's an adorable game. 1818 01:21:18.600 --> 01:21:20.760 It is Mobby says, I got to get my frog on. 1819 01:21:21.760 --> 01:21:23.800 Oh, you can swim underwater. 1820 01:21:25.079 --> 01:21:26.880 It's a very cute game, for sure. 1821 01:21:28.960 --> 01:21:31.199 It is very much going in that Mario sixty four vane, 1822 01:21:31.359 --> 01:21:33.800 you know, platforming, going around collecting these bits and stuff 1823 01:21:33.840 --> 01:21:35.479 to unlock future levels and stuff like that. 1824 01:21:35.880 --> 01:21:36.840 It is so cute. 1825 01:21:37.000 --> 01:21:40.000 It is quite good for one of those. You know, 1826 01:21:40.039 --> 01:21:41.880 it's a smaller team, so obviously it's like not fair 1827 01:21:41.880 --> 01:21:44.760 to put it Tomorrio standards. That said, I do play 1828 01:21:45.000 --> 01:21:47.840 a shiplottle Mario games, and I am just so used 1829 01:21:47.880 --> 01:21:51.319 to a certain amount of like predictability with the motion 1830 01:21:51.520 --> 01:21:53.880 and stuff. And there definitely is things in big hops 1831 01:21:53.880 --> 01:21:56.680 where it's like, oh, the momentum or the angle you 1832 01:21:56.720 --> 01:21:58.600 come in at something is weird. And so it's like 1833 01:21:58.600 --> 01:22:00.319 I was trying to wall run on this thing, but 1834 01:22:00.359 --> 01:22:02.000 it thought I was trying to all jump, so it's 1835 01:22:02.039 --> 01:22:04.279 like I didn't run and I just slide off and 1836 01:22:04.279 --> 01:22:06.000 follow my death or whatever. So like, there have been 1837 01:22:06.159 --> 01:22:09.479 enough kind of janky elements to it where it's like 1838 01:22:09.520 --> 01:22:11.640 I'm kind of getting frustrated by it, but it is 1839 01:22:11.720 --> 01:22:15.359 undeniably a really good one of these, And Mary, I 1840 01:22:15.640 --> 01:22:17.680 do think this would be a fantastic stream game for you. 1841 01:22:18.199 --> 01:22:21.319 I love games like this. I love the platforming elements 1842 01:22:21.359 --> 01:22:23.479 and it looks like there's some light puzzling where you're 1843 01:22:23.520 --> 01:22:26.319 like getting your tongue to solve a lock. 1844 01:22:26.680 --> 01:22:31.199 Like that's fun. Yeah, this looks very cute. 1845 01:22:31.680 --> 01:22:32.920 I think I think you would like it a lot, 1846 01:22:32.960 --> 01:22:35.239 and I will play more of it. It's yeah, and 1847 01:22:35.319 --> 01:22:37.600 like you have a backpack and every time you get 1848 01:22:37.640 --> 01:22:39.960 like basically their equivalent of a star, it'll be like, 1849 01:22:40.000 --> 01:22:42.039 choose one of these two upgrades. So there's perks and stuff. 1850 01:22:42.039 --> 01:22:43.479 So it's like, oh, when you slide on your belly, 1851 01:22:43.520 --> 01:22:45.760 you'll go further, or your backpack is bigger and can 1852 01:22:45.800 --> 01:22:48.840 hold more trinkets, and you know, like it's it does 1853 01:22:48.880 --> 01:22:50.800 a great job with that stuff. I'll play more, even 1854 01:22:50.800 --> 01:22:52.520 if I'm a little frustrated with some of the movement. 1855 01:22:53.760 --> 01:22:56.159 The other one very brief. Romeo is a dead Man. 1856 01:22:56.199 --> 01:22:58.600 It's the upcoming suit of fifty one game. I got 1857 01:22:58.640 --> 01:23:03.039 a preview build of that. It is extremely suda you've 1858 01:23:03.039 --> 01:23:05.880 ever played his stuff. It's very no More Heroes Killer seven, 1859 01:23:05.960 --> 01:23:08.960 but like even more so than usual. It is just 1860 01:23:09.119 --> 01:23:11.800 like you'll go into areas and the entire art style 1861 01:23:11.960 --> 01:23:14.560 changes in this very stylish ways, so it's like you're 1862 01:23:14.600 --> 01:23:18.159 going from this third person hack and slash to your 1863 01:23:18.199 --> 01:23:20.399 ship where everything is like kind of pixel art and 1864 01:23:20.680 --> 01:23:23.039 things like that, and like really weird, like you know, 1865 01:23:23.079 --> 01:23:25.159 all your ways of leveling up and everything are all 1866 01:23:25.159 --> 01:23:28.399 individual minigames on the ship that are totally different experiences, 1867 01:23:28.439 --> 01:23:31.960 and it's there's just it's throwing so much at you 1868 01:23:32.399 --> 01:23:35.199 in a way that is kind of fun. Esthetically, it 1869 01:23:35.520 --> 01:23:39.079 is extremely stylish, I'll say, the moment to moment combat stuff. 1870 01:23:39.079 --> 01:23:42.800 It feels very Xbox three sixty, So it's very you know, 1871 01:23:43.239 --> 01:23:45.640 access your life attack, why is your strong attack? And 1872 01:23:45.640 --> 01:23:47.720 then you got this you know, super attack, and you 1873 01:23:47.760 --> 01:23:50.279 know it's it's just the first couple of missions I 1874 01:23:50.279 --> 01:23:53.760 had access to. So we'll see there were some systems 1875 01:23:53.800 --> 01:23:55.600 that I would like to see, Like you're growing these 1876 01:23:55.960 --> 01:23:58.640 these bastards they call them, on your ship and so 1877 01:23:58.680 --> 01:24:01.319 it's like basically you're like growing these zombie enemies in 1878 01:24:01.399 --> 01:24:04.399 a field on your ship and you can like deploy them. 1879 01:24:04.399 --> 01:24:06.399 It's like this one's like kind of like a turret basically, 1880 01:24:06.479 --> 01:24:10.079 and so there's some interesting wrinkles to the combat and everything. 1881 01:24:10.199 --> 01:24:12.840 So I'll i'll, you know, touch based on it once 1882 01:24:12.880 --> 01:24:16.359 it comes out. But uh, extremely souda, but also feels 1883 01:24:16.359 --> 01:24:18.760 a little bit dated in the actual like moment to moment, 1884 01:24:18.880 --> 01:24:20.199 so I'll keep my eyes. 1885 01:24:20.399 --> 01:24:22.319 Yeah, that sounds like a lot of his games. 1886 01:24:22.199 --> 01:24:24.560 Yep, yep, yep, yep. They will not surprise anyone if 1887 01:24:24.600 --> 01:24:25.800 you played pseudo games. 1888 01:24:26.119 --> 01:24:28.399 Wait, sudo is also is that Shadows of the Damned 1889 01:24:29.159 --> 01:24:32.039 m I think that's my favorite? Was that Macammie and Suda? 1890 01:24:32.560 --> 01:24:36.000 It sounds yeah, yeah that I like that one. 1891 01:24:36.000 --> 01:24:39.479 I like Shadow a lot of phallic stuff, but like 1892 01:24:39.520 --> 01:24:43.720 it felt like RESI before even within two in the 1893 01:24:43.720 --> 01:24:44.319 same school. 1894 01:24:44.399 --> 01:24:47.399 Yeah, it wasn't your gun named Boner? 1895 01:24:48.119 --> 01:24:50.319 Oh yeah, everything everything is a thing. 1896 01:24:50.600 --> 01:24:54.359 Yeah, your name is hot Spur. Yeah, what's done? 1897 01:24:54.399 --> 01:24:55.920 Crawl? All right? 1898 01:24:56.039 --> 01:25:01.079 Dune Krawl is the best co op game so far 1899 01:25:01.159 --> 01:25:08.039 in twenty twenty six. Guys, it's so cool. I know 1900 01:25:08.119 --> 01:25:09.760 we're gonna get more of these like these. 1901 01:25:09.920 --> 01:25:12.680 Uh yeah, it's January eleven games. 1902 01:25:12.840 --> 01:25:15.720 Yeah, friend slop is everywhere. 1903 01:25:15.760 --> 01:25:17.960 This isn't really friend slop. I think this is like 1904 01:25:18.279 --> 01:25:23.800 genuine couch co op type gameplay. Super fun. You are. 1905 01:25:26.960 --> 01:25:28.640 I don't even know what you are, but you ride 1906 01:25:28.680 --> 01:25:33.039 a crab and one person is driving the crab and 1907 01:25:33.079 --> 01:25:36.119 the other person is shooting the cannons to help like 1908 01:25:36.199 --> 01:25:38.079 take down different towers and then. 1909 01:25:37.960 --> 01:25:39.159 You can upgrade your crab. 1910 01:25:39.199 --> 01:25:41.600 Guys, you like might find something in the world, like 1911 01:25:41.640 --> 01:25:44.039 I found this steel plate in an area, and I 1912 01:25:44.079 --> 01:25:46.560 attached it to my crab and it protects his little arm, 1913 01:25:47.159 --> 01:25:49.399 and so while he's walking around, he's got steel plates. 1914 01:25:49.640 --> 01:25:51.319 You got to heal your crab. You gotta make sure 1915 01:25:51.359 --> 01:25:53.520 your crab is healthy. And then you get off of 1916 01:25:53.560 --> 01:25:54.479 the crab at these. 1917 01:25:54.319 --> 01:25:58.119 Different islands and do the excursions. 1918 01:25:58.600 --> 01:25:59.960 You bring back. 1919 01:26:02.039 --> 01:26:05.960 Treasures, and then you sell the treasures for upgrades for 1920 01:26:06.000 --> 01:26:09.279 your giant crab and for yourselves. And there's even secrets 1921 01:26:09.279 --> 01:26:11.560 on these islands, so you might be like, that's weird, 1922 01:26:11.640 --> 01:26:13.479 Like what's up with this like. 1923 01:26:13.800 --> 01:26:15.479 Weird looking wall? And you bomb it. 1924 01:26:15.600 --> 01:26:17.600 You go through the wall and there's a whole fucking 1925 01:26:17.680 --> 01:26:20.279 area in there with an extra secret treasure in there 1926 01:26:20.279 --> 01:26:23.279 if you're paying attention. At first, I thought it was 1927 01:26:23.279 --> 01:26:25.439 too easy. At first, I was like, this game is 1928 01:26:25.800 --> 01:26:28.920 for babies, and I respect that, but it's too easy. 1929 01:26:29.399 --> 01:26:32.720 But on like the it took a couple hours for 1930 01:26:32.760 --> 01:26:34.800 it to get moving. There is a point where I 1931 01:26:34.880 --> 01:26:37.159 was like, Okay, these guys are cooking and now I. 1932 01:26:37.359 --> 01:26:38.560 Need to have my shit together. 1933 01:26:38.640 --> 01:26:41.439 So it did get harder as the game progressed, but 1934 01:26:41.560 --> 01:26:44.079 I appreciated the easiness of it because I think if 1935 01:26:44.079 --> 01:26:47.399 you were going to like play this with a partner, 1936 01:26:47.720 --> 01:26:50.199 like a you know, a sibling, and you're like, I 1937 01:26:50.239 --> 01:26:50.720 don't want it to. 1938 01:26:50.720 --> 01:26:54.479 Be too hard. It starts very reasonably and then it 1939 01:26:54.520 --> 01:26:55.399 builds over time. 1940 01:26:55.600 --> 01:27:00.279 So I've loving it. It has a couple issues, I think, 1941 01:27:00.319 --> 01:27:05.239 Like I think aesthetically, it's like a little bland. You're 1942 01:27:05.279 --> 01:27:08.039 in a desert every time, there's always a desert area. 1943 01:27:08.319 --> 01:27:10.880 It's just brown town, you know, and I just you 1944 01:27:10.880 --> 01:27:13.720 don't see a lot of change in the environment. 1945 01:27:13.880 --> 01:27:17.960 I think that's kind of exhausting. I feel like I. 1946 01:27:17.880 --> 01:27:19.920 Had like one other issue with it, but they're minor, 1947 01:27:20.159 --> 01:27:23.800 like generally speaking, Like, I'm enjoying playing this game. I 1948 01:27:23.960 --> 01:27:29.239 like riding my crab around town and upgrading her. 1949 01:27:29.359 --> 01:27:30.800 Oh, you could also find masks. 1950 01:27:30.840 --> 01:27:33.039 This was pretty cool. There's like lots of stuff you're 1951 01:27:33.079 --> 01:27:35.239 kind of learning as I'm playing it. But at one 1952 01:27:35.239 --> 01:27:38.520 of the excursions, I got a mask and nobody would 1953 01:27:38.520 --> 01:27:40.560 accept it, no one would buy it, and so I 1954 01:27:40.600 --> 01:27:41.119 put it on my. 1955 01:27:41.119 --> 01:27:42.720 Crab crab mask. 1956 01:27:43.239 --> 01:27:45.840 I like, I'm like upgrading my crab with like different Oh, 1957 01:27:45.880 --> 01:27:48.439 I got a upgrade from one of my crab's claws. 1958 01:27:48.560 --> 01:27:52.439 And when it's when it steps there, it creates a 1959 01:27:52.479 --> 01:27:55.720 trap on the ground, and so I'm like constantly upgrading 1960 01:27:55.760 --> 01:27:59.880 my crab. It goes up to four player co op 1961 01:28:01.319 --> 01:28:03.079 playing it with I'm playing it. 1962 01:28:03.159 --> 01:28:03.640 What do you mean? 1963 01:28:03.680 --> 01:28:03.880 Who? 1964 01:28:04.119 --> 01:28:05.800 How many? Know? How many people are you playing it with? 1965 01:28:05.840 --> 01:28:06.199 Just one? 1966 01:28:06.319 --> 01:28:08.199 So it's just two of us right now. I'd love 1967 01:28:08.239 --> 01:28:09.920 to play it with four. I think it'll be fun. 1968 01:28:09.960 --> 01:28:13.079 I wonder if that would make it too awkward. 1969 01:28:14.199 --> 01:28:17.000 Ye, the way you're describing it first, it reminded me 1970 01:28:17.079 --> 01:28:19.840 of did you ever play Lovers in a Dangerous Space time? Yeah, 1971 01:28:21.560 --> 01:28:25.279 but that was way more challenging right off the bat 1972 01:28:25.319 --> 01:28:27.640 than this is. And that wasn't explorating it. That was 1973 01:28:27.680 --> 01:28:29.920 more like Housemark Arcadie kind of vibes. 1974 01:28:30.640 --> 01:28:33.359 Yeah, what's that other game with four people where you're 1975 01:28:33.399 --> 01:28:36.119 like doing challenging platforming. 1976 01:28:35.560 --> 01:28:38.039 Things and everyone and it's just like Castle Crushers. 1977 01:28:38.199 --> 01:28:40.600 This kind of has a castle that's that's a beat 1978 01:28:40.640 --> 01:28:42.560 them off. Yeah, it has. 1979 01:28:42.399 --> 01:28:45.840 Some like schmuppy type things. There's a lot of different 1980 01:28:45.880 --> 01:28:48.840 weapons in the space. You're constantly finding new weapons, I 1981 01:28:48.880 --> 01:28:52.319 mean the upgrades. Oh, and there's environmental kills and stuff too. 1982 01:28:52.359 --> 01:28:54.079 It's just pretty fun. So I think you find like 1983 01:28:54.439 --> 01:28:56.479 little red barrels and shoot them and they like pop 1984 01:28:56.520 --> 01:28:59.920 off and everyone will explode. And oh and there's beatle 1985 01:29:00.279 --> 01:29:03.000 as well, and so you're constantly like you find a 1986 01:29:03.000 --> 01:29:05.079 beetle in the environment, you can ride it. 1987 01:29:05.079 --> 01:29:06.079 It's so fun. 1988 01:29:06.279 --> 01:29:09.720 I found a beetle that had two side cars were 1989 01:29:09.760 --> 01:29:11.119 like sidecaring it up. 1990 01:29:11.319 --> 01:29:13.079 If you find like random. 1991 01:29:12.720 --> 01:29:16.159 People you can take their stuff. I think it's really 1992 01:29:16.239 --> 01:29:18.920 cute and well done. It's not perfect. One of the 1993 01:29:18.960 --> 01:29:23.199 other issues we came across was I think the camera 1994 01:29:23.319 --> 01:29:26.640 follows like the main person this is couch co op, 1995 01:29:26.960 --> 01:29:30.079 and if I died, it goes the camera goes back 1996 01:29:30.119 --> 01:29:32.800 to me, so the person who was progressing like loses 1997 01:29:32.840 --> 01:29:33.479 their progress. 1998 01:29:33.680 --> 01:29:35.880 There was like a couple janky things as well. 1999 01:29:35.920 --> 01:29:37.560 When I was like trying to get off my crab 2000 01:29:37.560 --> 01:29:38.760 and it like didn't know if I was trying to 2001 01:29:38.760 --> 01:29:40.680 get on the ladder or not. I like floated in 2002 01:29:40.720 --> 01:29:42.119 the air and kind of like janked away. 2003 01:29:42.359 --> 01:29:43.800 So it's not perfect. 2004 01:29:43.840 --> 01:29:45.760 I think this is a small indie team. In fact, 2005 01:29:45.800 --> 01:29:48.399 I know it is because I've played their games before. 2006 01:29:49.640 --> 01:29:53.119 This is Alien Trap they made Kryptarc I played that 2007 01:29:54.039 --> 01:29:56.119 and Capsize. I don't know if you guys played that. 2008 01:29:56.199 --> 01:29:58.600 This group has been around for a really long time, 2009 01:29:59.079 --> 01:30:03.239 but they make their They've got to be a small team. 2010 01:30:03.399 --> 01:30:07.279 This has got to be like a twenty little group 2011 01:30:07.319 --> 01:30:09.159 of devs making this, and I think they've done an 2012 01:30:09.199 --> 01:30:09.880 excellent job. 2013 01:30:10.920 --> 01:30:11.680 Nice cool. 2014 01:30:11.800 --> 01:30:14.119 Yeah, I hope more people like play this like in groups, 2015 01:30:14.199 --> 01:30:17.640 especially as like co op is becoming more appealing. 2016 01:30:17.760 --> 01:30:19.479 I just think this has got It's got the. 2017 01:30:19.439 --> 01:30:21.359 Sauce, guys, sounds of mili. 2018 01:30:22.159 --> 01:30:23.479 I think we should play it. I would love to 2019 01:30:23.479 --> 01:30:25.840 play it with you, guys. I've loved I loved. 2020 01:30:25.600 --> 01:30:27.319 It when I was like figuring out and every time 2021 01:30:27.359 --> 01:30:30.359 I like learned something all the again. The weapons are 2022 01:30:30.359 --> 01:30:32.199 so I just found a boomerang, which is such a 2023 01:30:32.199 --> 01:30:34.600 funny weapon because it's like that comes back at you. 2024 01:30:34.760 --> 01:30:40.479 And the different exploding weapons, and my favorite is just 2025 01:30:40.720 --> 01:30:43.760 simply like a bo like a bow that does acid damage. 2026 01:30:43.840 --> 01:30:47.119 Is like my favorite weapon in the game. But it's 2027 01:30:47.279 --> 01:30:52.039 it's simple, good hearted co op fun and I do 2028 01:30:52.079 --> 01:30:55.000 recommend this if people are like actively looking for new 2029 01:30:55.119 --> 01:30:58.279 co op experiences like this, is it, dude, like build 2030 01:30:58.319 --> 01:31:01.640 your mech crab, go out prosper super fun? 2031 01:31:02.479 --> 01:31:02.760 Cool? 2032 01:31:03.920 --> 01:31:08.920 All right, do you wanna do some emails sure, okay. 2033 01:31:08.960 --> 01:31:11.319 As usual, you can write into Fireescape Casts at gmail 2034 01:31:11.399 --> 01:31:14.920 dot com with questions for the show, comments, concerns. Maybe 2035 01:31:14.920 --> 01:31:17.960 we'll read your questions on the show. Fill up the 2036 01:31:17.960 --> 01:31:19.920 inbox for twenty twenty six. We got a bunch of 2037 01:31:19.960 --> 01:31:23.039 new ones since the last episode. Thank you so much, Mary. 2038 01:31:23.199 --> 01:31:25.600 Do you want to read this first one from Stephanie? 2039 01:31:27.319 --> 01:31:27.640 Hello? 2040 01:31:28.560 --> 01:31:29.520 Wait, nope? 2041 01:31:30.319 --> 01:31:31.439 Congratulations? 2042 01:31:31.560 --> 01:31:36.319 Yeah, your real selves have inherited farms in Stardow Valley? 2043 01:31:36.520 --> 01:31:38.600 Would you drop everything and move there? 2044 01:31:38.720 --> 01:31:41.920 I think we'd all say yeah, a sosolutely? 2045 01:31:42.359 --> 01:31:45.399 Can I like stream and stuff from the farm? 2046 01:31:45.439 --> 01:31:51.079 Sure? Why not? Yeah? Yeah? Yeah, yeah, that's not a 2047 01:31:51.199 --> 01:31:52.800 fun job the premise. 2048 01:31:55.319 --> 01:31:58.439 If yes, how would you spend most of your time 2049 01:31:58.479 --> 01:32:01.680 in Stardo? Who would have had the most successful farm 2050 01:32:01.720 --> 01:32:05.199 after three years? Who would sell out to Jojo mart first? 2051 01:32:05.359 --> 01:32:09.640 Cheers Stephanie from Vancouver Island, Canada. Yeah, I agree, I 2052 01:32:09.640 --> 01:32:10.600 think we'd all do it. 2053 01:32:11.279 --> 01:32:12.479 Yeah? 2054 01:32:12.800 --> 01:32:15.840 Who was actually my corporo life? And just starting a farm. 2055 01:32:15.680 --> 01:32:16.319 Is so cool? 2056 01:32:16.520 --> 01:32:18.479 It does sound great, sounds nice. 2057 01:32:20.319 --> 01:32:24.479 I don't take offense to this, Dan, I think the 2058 01:32:24.520 --> 01:32:26.600 best farm would probably be between Mary and. 2059 01:32:26.520 --> 01:32:29.039 Me, But my whole family is farmers. 2060 01:32:29.279 --> 01:32:31.279 Yeah, but it doesn't mean you know how to do anything. 2061 01:32:31.359 --> 01:32:32.319 It's not in your blood. 2062 01:32:32.560 --> 01:32:35.239 I might awaken something in my jeans, you know, might 2063 01:32:35.319 --> 01:32:37.439 like it's like the devil gene and techan like something 2064 01:32:37.479 --> 01:32:40.439 like something activates and I'm a fucking. 2065 01:32:40.239 --> 01:32:44.720 Sleeper sell inside. Yeah. My grandparents were all farmers as well. 2066 01:32:45.399 --> 01:32:47.720 I mean it's like my extended family is all farmers 2067 01:32:47.720 --> 01:32:49.760 and my direct family is all grocers. 2068 01:32:50.000 --> 01:32:55.119 You know, so I feel like there's generation is all eaters. 2069 01:32:55.720 --> 01:32:59.800 I don't know what about circle yeah. 2070 01:32:59.239 --> 01:33:02.000 Dan, like it sets foot in the in the on 2071 01:33:02.079 --> 01:33:04.119 the farms, like I could do this with a channel 2072 01:33:04.119 --> 01:33:06.880 like Grandpa, and the crops are just dead on daytime. 2073 01:33:06.960 --> 01:33:09.840 Here was a grocer, I'd right, I'd run the store 2074 01:33:09.840 --> 01:33:12.039 in town where they sold the stuff Joe. 2075 01:33:12.760 --> 01:33:13.239 I would have. 2076 01:33:13.239 --> 01:33:16.800 People you're the Jojo tending to the farm part of it, 2077 01:33:17.479 --> 01:33:20.319 and then I would work the store and then stream 2078 01:33:20.319 --> 01:33:20.840 at night. 2079 01:33:21.600 --> 01:33:26.680 The general store or the high pay the grocery store. Okay, gotcha. 2080 01:33:26.720 --> 01:33:28.119 Well, because that thing is like Jojo. 2081 01:33:27.920 --> 01:33:30.359 Mart, that's basically we'll put the family business out of business. 2082 01:33:30.640 --> 01:33:34.000 Is like ninety three Records market clothes because Walmart Target, 2083 01:33:34.079 --> 01:33:35.960 you know, they all started doing grocery stuff and everything, 2084 01:33:36.000 --> 01:33:37.680 and all the big box stores put us out of business. 2085 01:33:37.680 --> 01:33:39.680 So like I feel like it would be in my 2086 01:33:39.840 --> 01:33:41.479 DNA to like, well, no, I got to run the 2087 01:33:41.520 --> 01:33:42.319 mom and pop shop. 2088 01:33:42.399 --> 01:33:46.159 You know, this isn't answering the question properly, but I 2089 01:33:46.319 --> 01:33:49.199 did used to have dreams about being in Stardew Valley 2090 01:33:49.359 --> 01:33:51.680 and like existing in that town, like probably so many 2091 01:33:51.680 --> 01:33:54.760 people who've played that game. But it wasn't being a farmer. 2092 01:33:55.000 --> 01:33:58.960 It was owning the local bar because the part the 2093 01:33:59.000 --> 01:34:03.000 pub is always poppin'. It's very busy, especially on Friday 2094 01:34:03.000 --> 01:34:06.399 and Saturday night. They have like a good crew, there's 2095 01:34:06.560 --> 01:34:10.319 arcade games. It just feels so awesome. If I was 2096 01:34:10.359 --> 01:34:14.960 a Stardoo Valley person who stayed in that town. 2097 01:34:15.000 --> 01:34:17.199 I would own the bar, dude, and I would like 2098 01:34:17.880 --> 01:34:20.960 give people their beers and just enjoy that life. 2099 01:34:21.199 --> 01:34:23.840 Mary, I could one hundred percent see you, just like 2100 01:34:24.039 --> 01:34:27.199 retiring young and just like running a bar in Portland. 2101 01:34:27.760 --> 01:34:29.720 I think sometimes it's my dream. 2102 01:34:30.000 --> 01:34:32.600 I don't know a lot about it, so would probably 2103 01:34:32.600 --> 01:34:36.840 destroy it and it wouldn't go well to death in there. 2104 01:34:37.239 --> 01:34:40.760 But the concept to me of opening a simple bar 2105 01:34:40.800 --> 01:34:42.239 and what I mean by that, is is like if 2106 01:34:42.319 --> 01:34:44.840 you go in there and you order some fucking fancy 2107 01:34:44.960 --> 01:34:47.880 schmancy fandangled drink, I'm gonna be like, do you want 2108 01:34:47.920 --> 01:34:48.680 a beer or not? 2109 01:34:49.439 --> 01:34:50.119 Do you want a. 2110 01:34:50.039 --> 01:34:52.760 Shot of whiskey or get out? I would order I 2111 01:34:52.800 --> 01:34:54.960 would like have a bar. 2112 01:34:55.520 --> 01:34:57.479 Would you be the bartender who's taking the shots with 2113 01:34:57.640 --> 01:34:59.439 the people where it's like, oh, they order three shots 2114 01:34:59.439 --> 01:35:02.359 of whiskey. I do like that, Like that that's fun 2115 01:35:02.359 --> 01:35:04.039 at bars when like a bartender will take a shot 2116 01:35:04.039 --> 01:35:05.319 with you or something. I like that. 2117 01:35:05.720 --> 01:35:08.159 I think I would enjoy that life. I do think 2118 01:35:08.199 --> 01:35:09.479 it would probably lose its luster. 2119 01:35:10.079 --> 01:35:12.359 I was a bartender, so like it's not like I 2120 01:35:12.680 --> 01:35:15.720 don't know that world, but like I think owning the 2121 01:35:15.760 --> 01:35:18.640 bar is a different vibe, right, and like caring about 2122 01:35:18.720 --> 01:35:24.359 it and like enjoying your locals, your regulars that come 2123 01:35:24.439 --> 01:35:26.479 all the time. You know their name and you're like, 2124 01:35:26.680 --> 01:35:29.239 just like I go to the same goddamn bar almost 2125 01:35:29.279 --> 01:35:30.000 every weekend. 2126 01:35:30.079 --> 01:35:30.279 I have. 2127 01:35:30.880 --> 01:35:34.279 The bartender is the owner. We know each other. Every 2128 01:35:34.319 --> 01:35:37.520 time I see him. He has my order ready to go, 2129 01:35:38.079 --> 01:35:40.800 two cores lights and he puts in and ordered chili 2130 01:35:40.880 --> 01:35:42.279 cheese fres like I've. 2131 01:35:42.119 --> 01:35:44.800 Got it on lock and it's like that guy's cool. 2132 01:35:45.039 --> 01:35:47.039 I want to be that guy that is like the 2133 01:35:47.079 --> 01:35:50.000 coolest feeling when it's just like like when I lived 2134 01:35:50.039 --> 01:35:52.199 in Northeast Minneapolis, I used to I lived right across 2135 01:35:52.199 --> 01:35:54.119 in the Vegas Lounge, and I would just walk in 2136 01:35:54.199 --> 01:35:56.600 there and Frank the bartender, would just walk up and 2137 01:35:56.640 --> 01:35:58.359 just give me an ordies without me saying a word, 2138 01:35:58.359 --> 01:36:00.960 and it's like, ah, hell yeah. Like it's it's fun 2139 01:36:00.960 --> 01:36:02.800 to just have like your haunt, your place. 2140 01:36:02.880 --> 01:36:07.640 It's good to have someone where everybody knows your name. 2141 01:36:07.760 --> 01:36:13.800 You know. It feels a fire escape bar logo that 2142 01:36:15.680 --> 01:36:17.720 would be the logical progression. 2143 01:36:17.359 --> 01:36:19.840 Giant neon sign of a logo. That's sweet logo like 2144 01:36:19.840 --> 01:36:21.079 the I love it and. 2145 01:36:21.119 --> 01:36:23.640 It's just a little escape from our our lives. 2146 01:36:23.640 --> 01:36:27.760 Anyway, I've completely avoided the question, but that's what I 2147 01:36:27.760 --> 01:36:29.880 would like to do in Stardy Valley. I think if 2148 01:36:29.920 --> 01:36:35.000 I was in Stardo, I would spend most of my time. 2149 01:36:35.079 --> 01:36:35.720 At the bar. 2150 01:36:38.359 --> 01:36:39.520 So you did answer the question. 2151 01:36:41.399 --> 01:36:44.560 I think that I would actually like to see our 2152 01:36:44.560 --> 01:36:47.199 farms before answering this question. It depends on if this 2153 01:36:47.319 --> 01:36:49.680 question is like are you actually a farmer or who 2154 01:36:49.680 --> 01:36:52.880 can game a five Stardy Valley the best because while 2155 01:36:52.920 --> 01:36:55.119 I had a very good and successful farm, by the end, 2156 01:36:55.199 --> 01:36:57.199 it wasn't super organized because that's not my jam. 2157 01:36:57.239 --> 01:36:58.039 My jam isn't have. 2158 01:36:58.039 --> 01:37:01.960 Like the perfect bins that are in succession in mid 2159 01:37:02.039 --> 01:37:04.159 max every square ounce of my farm. That's not how 2160 01:37:04.199 --> 01:37:06.359 I play. So I'd like to see your guys's farms 2161 01:37:06.359 --> 01:37:07.479 before I make my answer. 2162 01:37:07.760 --> 01:37:09.880 I had a lot of beer going on in my farm, 2163 01:37:09.960 --> 01:37:11.800 like in the winters is when you could do the beer. 2164 01:37:11.840 --> 01:37:14.239 And like I just my whole operation. 2165 01:37:14.119 --> 01:37:15.960 Was just a really good in my bar. 2166 01:37:17.239 --> 01:37:18.520 Let's just buy a town. 2167 01:37:18.880 --> 01:37:21.039 Let's just do the like Dave Chappelle thing and buy 2168 01:37:21.039 --> 01:37:23.199 a town and we'll just run everything. 2169 01:37:23.239 --> 01:37:23.960 We'll have a farm. 2170 01:37:24.239 --> 01:37:24.880 What would you do? 2171 01:37:25.800 --> 01:37:29.319 I would actually do all the adult stuff that requires that, 2172 01:37:29.520 --> 01:37:31.880 Like running a bar requires that you two don't think about. 2173 01:37:32.000 --> 01:37:33.399 Yeah, you do the stuff. 2174 01:37:33.680 --> 01:37:37.600 No, like everything like distribution cogs. Do you guys know 2175 01:37:37.640 --> 01:37:40.760 what cogs stands for? No, that's your fucking deal. You 2176 01:37:40.800 --> 01:37:42.840 need to hit thirty percent and you're good and you're 2177 01:37:42.840 --> 01:37:44.479 making the right You deal with that. 2178 01:37:44.399 --> 01:37:47.840 Exactly, you guys, Mary's taking shots. Let's know, you guys 2179 01:37:47.840 --> 01:37:49.439 want me to run a bar, you too, Just want 2180 01:37:49.439 --> 01:37:51.000 to drink. I'm playing with the dog. 2181 01:37:51.159 --> 01:37:54.920 Mary's taken shots with the customers, like yeah, all yeah. 2182 01:37:56.159 --> 01:37:59.880 Every day, she's the only She just keeps saying she's 2183 01:37:59.880 --> 01:38:02.840 the owner, but she's actually not awesome. 2184 01:38:02.920 --> 01:38:05.039 Yeah, we cannot get her to leave. 2185 01:38:05.319 --> 01:38:07.680 That's the romance. I don't fucking know her. She's just 2186 01:38:07.720 --> 01:38:08.560 here every day. 2187 01:38:08.800 --> 01:38:09.760 She keeps saying I'll. 2188 01:38:09.600 --> 01:38:12.239 Have the usual, but we don't know what that means 2189 01:38:12.279 --> 01:38:15.000 because we have never served her the same thing twice. 2190 01:38:16.760 --> 01:38:21.000 Uh yeah, talking all the dogs. 2191 01:38:19.079 --> 01:38:23.520 He says he's a brewer, but I'm pretty sure he 2192 01:38:23.720 --> 01:38:26.279 just makes enough beer for himself to trip. 2193 01:38:26.479 --> 01:38:31.439 I just pay people to make the beer. Yeah, fair drinking. 2194 01:38:32.600 --> 01:38:35.319 Uh Dan, you want to read this? Thank you, Stephanie. Dan, 2195 01:38:35.319 --> 01:38:37.720 you want to read this one from Alex. 2196 01:38:37.560 --> 01:38:42.680 Sure Mike was having a big old winge. Boy, you 2197 01:38:42.720 --> 01:38:44.520 can just there's some words you can just tell someone 2198 01:38:44.920 --> 01:38:47.920 in a different country, the big old winge about the 2199 01:38:47.960 --> 01:38:50.079 hoops he had to jump through to watch Search party, 2200 01:38:50.399 --> 01:38:52.880 and it reminded me of my most boomer take that 2201 01:38:52.960 --> 01:38:58.039 broadcast TV, whilst not perfect, was the best content delivery platform. 2202 01:38:58.520 --> 01:39:00.520 What is your boomer take? You won't move from? That 2203 01:39:00.640 --> 01:39:05.079 is Alex in Australia. I mean mine that I just 2204 01:39:05.159 --> 01:39:08.640 keep going deeper and deeper into is just hating social 2205 01:39:08.680 --> 01:39:11.880 media and the Internet. And you know, it's like I 2206 01:39:12.119 --> 01:39:14.640 keep moving further into it, you know, like I took 2207 01:39:14.680 --> 01:39:16.960 that little like break from Blue Sky and it's still 2208 01:39:16.960 --> 01:39:18.319 it's been like a month now, and I kept thinking 2209 01:39:18.359 --> 01:39:20.119 I was gonna go back, and it's not missing it 2210 01:39:20.279 --> 01:39:23.720 feeling better about it. So like I just I know 2211 01:39:23.800 --> 01:39:26.760 it's a common topic and people not like you sort. 2212 01:39:26.640 --> 01:39:27.680 Over social media too. 2213 01:39:27.680 --> 01:39:30.279 For the record, TikTok like crazy, right. 2214 01:39:30.239 --> 01:39:33.520 I think that they are consuming TikTok. But I think. 2215 01:39:33.359 --> 01:39:37.399 The the trend that I am seeing is that there's 2216 01:39:37.520 --> 01:39:41.039 no trust with social media with any generation right now 2217 01:39:41.039 --> 01:39:43.479 because of AI or it should not be yeah yeah, 2218 01:39:43.520 --> 01:39:45.760 And so it just doesn't feel honest. 2219 01:39:46.039 --> 01:39:49.279 It's like, yeah, it's it's concerns about the content. It's 2220 01:39:49.279 --> 01:39:51.760 also but like my thing is more just like mental health. 2221 01:39:51.800 --> 01:39:54.399 I just think it's just like every here's the thing 2222 01:39:54.439 --> 01:39:56.039 that I've I've gone back to, going back to like 2223 01:39:56.079 --> 01:39:57.960 two thousand and nine when I started the game Informer, 2224 01:39:58.039 --> 01:40:00.239 and it's always the people. And in this industry, there's 2225 01:40:00.279 --> 01:40:02.560 so many people that are so tied to social media 2226 01:40:02.680 --> 01:40:04.720 and their followings and they're back in the day their 2227 01:40:04.720 --> 01:40:07.439 clout scorers and stuff like that. That like it's always 2228 01:40:07.439 --> 01:40:10.560 the people that are the most online I have always 2229 01:40:10.560 --> 01:40:13.199 found are the most miserable. The ones that are most 2230 01:40:13.399 --> 01:40:16.760 tied in through Twitter at the time or TikTok now 2231 01:40:16.960 --> 01:40:19.039 or whatever, the ones who are most invested in that 2232 01:40:19.479 --> 01:40:22.239 are always the most miserable. 2233 01:40:21.720 --> 01:40:23.079 People you've ever met. 2234 01:40:23.439 --> 01:40:25.479 So it's like, there's it just seems like a very 2235 01:40:25.479 --> 01:40:28.399 clear thing to me where it's like, engage in that 2236 01:40:28.439 --> 01:40:30.399 stuff and make it your whole deal, and you're just 2237 01:40:30.680 --> 01:40:35.199 gonna be a mess. And I just pull back all 2238 01:40:35.199 --> 01:40:36.920 the time from it and want to pull back further 2239 01:40:36.960 --> 01:40:39.840 and further and further, and it's only been good to 2240 01:40:39.880 --> 01:40:42.800 pull back. So that's I know that makes me sound ancient, 2241 01:40:42.840 --> 01:40:44.439 but like that's wair. 2242 01:40:44.520 --> 01:40:46.479 We talked about that before and I won't belabor it. 2243 01:40:46.720 --> 01:40:49.439 We we did dig into like how young people coming 2244 01:40:49.520 --> 01:40:52.159 up in certain spaces and like as journalists sometimes need 2245 01:40:52.279 --> 01:40:54.079 that's it's helpful to get their name out there and 2246 01:40:54.119 --> 01:40:56.800 get work if you're a freelancer. It was pretty cool, yeah, 2247 01:40:56.920 --> 01:40:59.640 but like one percent I went cold turkey. I think 2248 01:40:59.680 --> 01:41:01.720 all three of us here are fortunate and we worked 2249 01:41:01.720 --> 01:41:03.359 hard to get to where we were and we were 2250 01:41:03.399 --> 01:41:06.520 able to just kind of well, at least again, i'd 2251 01:41:06.600 --> 01:41:08.920 like pulled the bandit off and just except for Instagram, 2252 01:41:08.960 --> 01:41:11.600 I don't use anything Instagram. I don't talk about games before. 2253 01:41:11.800 --> 01:41:13.479 You guys know what I post on Instagram. 2254 01:41:13.600 --> 01:41:16.760 It's just wine and food and uh like my cat 2255 01:41:17.039 --> 01:41:17.920 yeah and cats. 2256 01:41:18.000 --> 01:41:22.760 Yeah, yeah, yeah. I I one thousand percent agree with that. 2257 01:41:23.680 --> 01:41:28.079 My my other this isn't really a boomer take. I 2258 01:41:28.239 --> 01:41:31.239 don't think this is like I think people would agree. 2259 01:41:31.279 --> 01:41:32.840 I think the movie theater is still the best way 2260 01:41:32.840 --> 01:41:33.520 to watch a movie. 2261 01:41:33.520 --> 01:41:34.159 Provider you. 2262 01:41:34.359 --> 01:41:36.159 I will say, though, my boomer take is that I 2263 01:41:36.199 --> 01:41:38.399 think one out of every five movies I go to 2264 01:41:38.520 --> 01:41:39.840 actually has a good audience. 2265 01:41:41.520 --> 01:41:45.119 Oh it's rare to have it, or just fucking yeah. 2266 01:41:44.640 --> 01:41:47.119 People are just no. I mean, like I've maybe it's 2267 01:41:47.199 --> 01:41:50.920 just because there's so many fucking people here. I've been to. 2268 01:41:51.199 --> 01:41:54.880 Let's say I've seen twenty movies in the last five 2269 01:41:55.000 --> 01:41:58.439 years in theaters. Well, that's obviously COVID happened. But like 2270 01:41:58.520 --> 01:42:01.239 you know what I'm saying, just for the percent and wise, 2271 01:42:02.079 --> 01:42:07.279 I'd say five of those there wasn't like extremely rude 2272 01:42:07.319 --> 01:42:08.560 people somewhere in the theater. 2273 01:42:09.000 --> 01:42:12.279 That might be depending on locate, because like we've seen 2274 01:42:12.279 --> 01:42:13.960 more than that in the last five years, and like 2275 01:42:14.199 --> 01:42:16.279 don't at least in Minnesota. I don't think we've ever 2276 01:42:16.319 --> 01:42:18.079 had a bad experience in me. 2277 01:42:18.159 --> 01:42:20.560 Every once in a while, we had a really bad 2278 01:42:20.640 --> 01:42:23.520 one where we saw Mean Girls the musical. 2279 01:42:23.680 --> 01:42:26.119 I don't know why we saw the theaters. I don't 2280 01:42:26.159 --> 01:42:28.600 know why I did, but the people in front of 2281 01:42:28.680 --> 01:42:31.840 us were making out the whole movie. 2282 01:42:31.760 --> 01:42:34.079 On fine with that, I would like, I like that. 2283 01:42:34.279 --> 01:42:38.039 Like full on in each other's throat. I understand that, 2284 01:42:38.119 --> 01:42:40.560 Like I understand. 2285 01:42:41.720 --> 01:42:45.159 That you can kiss. Like I'm not like the kiss Police. 2286 01:42:45.199 --> 01:42:48.359 I'm just saying, like the whole time, it was like 2287 01:42:48.399 --> 01:42:55.680 you could hear them making out, start fucking going say something. 2288 01:42:55.800 --> 01:42:56.960 It was awkward. 2289 01:42:57.520 --> 01:42:59.279 Like at some point I just had to just tap 2290 01:42:59.319 --> 01:43:00.960 them on the shoulder and I said, this movie is 2291 01:43:01.000 --> 01:43:01.640 almost over. 2292 01:43:01.960 --> 01:43:05.560 You guys can go to town. Yeah, but it was ten 2293 01:43:05.560 --> 01:43:06.039 more minutes. 2294 01:43:06.199 --> 01:43:06.720 I've gone to a. 2295 01:43:06.680 --> 01:43:08.640 Bunch of different theaters and I feel like, I just 2296 01:43:08.760 --> 01:43:11.520 I think there's people who did not come up going 2297 01:43:11.560 --> 01:43:15.560 to movie theaters once they like got old enough. Because 2298 01:43:15.600 --> 01:43:19.920 they were either in quarantine or just like streaming services 2299 01:43:19.960 --> 01:43:21.760 were allowing them to watch whatever they wanted at home. 2300 01:43:22.199 --> 01:43:24.600 I think there's just not an etiquette there that we 2301 01:43:24.680 --> 01:43:26.800 grew up with in movie theaters. And maybe I'm being 2302 01:43:26.800 --> 01:43:28.520 a bit harsh with those percentages, Like maybe it was 2303 01:43:28.560 --> 01:43:30.239 not as many, but like when I get a bad crowd, 2304 01:43:30.239 --> 01:43:31.960 I'm like, oh God, I love the movie theater, but 2305 01:43:32.000 --> 01:43:33.560 I do wish I was just watching this at home 2306 01:43:33.680 --> 01:43:34.000 right now. 2307 01:43:34.159 --> 01:43:35.800 Yeah, I mean there are certain movies that are fine 2308 01:43:35.800 --> 01:43:37.680 if it's just some like kind of chilocky. Like if 2309 01:43:37.680 --> 01:43:39.840 I'm seeing like a fast and furious movie in the theaters, 2310 01:43:39.880 --> 01:43:42.439 I don't really give a shit of some But if 2311 01:43:42.439 --> 01:43:44.840 I'm seeing like Bogonia or something, I'm not gonna want 2312 01:43:44.840 --> 01:43:47.079 someone trying to like get their shit over and get 2313 01:43:47.079 --> 01:43:49.199 some jokes in during the thing. It's like I hate 2314 01:43:49.199 --> 01:43:52.640 that shit or exactly a completely unrelated conversation, so just. 2315 01:43:52.439 --> 01:43:55.840 Just chatting loudly and their phones bright in front of us, Like. 2316 01:43:55.800 --> 01:43:57.520 I mean that that was when I was in New 2317 01:43:57.600 --> 01:44:00.319 York during that movie past era, Like that's when I 2318 01:44:00.399 --> 01:44:03.560 remember seeing that frequently. And yeah, I don't know if 2319 01:44:03.560 --> 01:44:04.520 it's just a New York thing. 2320 01:44:06.199 --> 01:44:06.840 I try. 2321 01:44:07.199 --> 01:44:09.720 I try to go to the theaters where I know 2322 01:44:09.720 --> 01:44:13.520 people are gonna be cool, like The Angelica. Generally speaking, 2323 01:44:13.560 --> 01:44:15.199 I'd say people who are going to The Angelica are 2324 01:44:15.239 --> 01:44:18.640 really into movies and thus are cool in theaters then 2325 01:44:18.680 --> 01:44:21.560 they're like the bigger AMCs and whatnot, where it's just 2326 01:44:21.600 --> 01:44:22.800 like no holds barred. 2327 01:44:22.840 --> 01:44:24.079 You don't know what you're gonna get. 2328 01:44:24.800 --> 01:44:26.840 If you're seeing like a Paul Thomas Anderson movie, I 2329 01:44:26.840 --> 01:44:28.439 doubt like would. 2330 01:44:30.159 --> 01:44:31.039 Like, yeahoo's in there. 2331 01:44:31.960 --> 01:44:36.800 Then I saw Alien that was the Romulus two years ago, 2332 01:44:36.840 --> 01:44:38.880 and that was the worst I had to literally I had. 2333 01:44:38.880 --> 01:44:40.159 It was a bunch of n YU students. 2334 01:44:40.199 --> 01:44:41.520 I think I had to turn around be like shut 2335 01:44:41.520 --> 01:44:44.920 the fuck up because they were shot. They were treading 2336 01:44:44.960 --> 01:44:48.239 it at this volume in the intro and it's quiet 2337 01:44:48.279 --> 01:44:50.520 and like building suspense and like shut the fuck up. 2338 01:44:50.560 --> 01:44:52.800 And they were babies, so they didn't say anything back 2339 01:44:52.840 --> 01:44:57.159 to me. And then like that that. At that point, 2340 01:44:57.159 --> 01:44:59.199 it's like you're having a full on conversation. Go to 2341 01:44:59.279 --> 01:45:01.520 the bar around the corner. Why did you pay to 2342 01:45:01.560 --> 01:45:02.039 come in here? 2343 01:45:02.239 --> 01:45:02.439 Mike? 2344 01:45:02.479 --> 01:45:04.920 Were we that during Rainbow Last Blood in New York? 2345 01:45:05.520 --> 01:45:07.880 No, like we were we were just a front row. 2346 01:45:08.119 --> 01:45:10.880 We were in the front row, like go like getting 2347 01:45:10.920 --> 01:45:12.880 really excited when things were happening. 2348 01:45:13.079 --> 01:45:15.319 We were punching each other when we were excited. 2349 01:45:15.720 --> 01:45:19.039 That was rocky. That was a creed. We've had several 2350 01:45:19.119 --> 01:45:19.880 very drunk theaters. 2351 01:45:19.920 --> 01:45:21.840 Yeah, but that was when the music was flaring and 2352 01:45:21.920 --> 01:45:23.920 Christian like we're just getting. 2353 01:45:25.159 --> 01:45:25.600 Yeah, no, no, no. 2354 01:45:25.720 --> 01:45:28.359 These people are having full on conversation like loudly in 2355 01:45:28.359 --> 01:45:30.399 the middle of the theater with their and oh oh 2356 01:45:30.960 --> 01:45:33.840 flashing like the flashes on their phone, taking a photo 2357 01:45:33.880 --> 01:45:36.760 the screen to post on social media. That's when I 2358 01:45:36.800 --> 01:45:40.359 was like, I was, yeah, the theater, Oh yeah, I was. 2359 01:45:40.479 --> 01:45:41.760 And that was the the what was the name of 2360 01:45:41.760 --> 01:45:44.439 the theater. That was a theater that like again they 2361 01:45:44.479 --> 01:45:48.359 show like Stalker every few months, like like Tarkowski movies 2362 01:45:48.439 --> 01:45:51.079 like that. That is a theater that cares about movies. 2363 01:45:51.600 --> 01:45:54.119 And I was surprised to have that happen there. But anyway, 2364 01:45:54.159 --> 01:45:56.039 that's my uh. I don't know if that's a boomer take, 2365 01:45:56.079 --> 01:45:57.520 it's just a boomer rant. No, I. 2366 01:45:59.000 --> 01:46:00.760 Fully agree, very what's yours. 2367 01:46:02.079 --> 01:46:04.000 I'll never go back to low rise jeans. 2368 01:46:04.039 --> 01:46:07.479 You can't make me high rise jeans for life. 2369 01:46:07.720 --> 01:46:10.039 So is low rise because I don't know anything. My 2370 01:46:10.119 --> 01:46:13.039 passion is low rise. Okay, so there's like the belly. 2371 01:46:12.760 --> 01:46:14.720 Button and then you go down. 2372 01:46:14.560 --> 01:46:18.119 Like two inches. Wait, so if if if the line 2373 01:46:18.119 --> 01:46:20.399 of the jeans or the pants or whatever is at 2374 01:46:20.399 --> 01:46:21.960 the belly button, that's midrise. 2375 01:46:22.239 --> 01:46:27.239 Hollister, think Hollister jeans. That means Fitz jeans. 2376 01:46:28.000 --> 01:46:29.239 I just went jeans. 2377 01:46:29.439 --> 01:46:32.399 If you're looking at an ad for like a clothing 2378 01:46:32.439 --> 01:46:36.640 store in two thousand and six, I guarantee. 2379 01:46:36.159 --> 01:46:38.039 The women are all wearing low rise jeans. 2380 01:46:38.079 --> 01:46:41.520 Just look up low like Christina Aguilera in the early 2381 01:46:41.560 --> 01:46:44.760 two thousands were like her jeans are like above her. 2382 01:46:44.680 --> 01:46:51.760 Like barely cuban that to come out that low. 2383 01:46:51.640 --> 01:46:55.000 Rise high went under the clip to show the clip. 2384 01:46:56.079 --> 01:46:56.960 Oh god, love. 2385 01:46:59.119 --> 01:47:04.119 Set settle down Like so high rise is more of 2386 01:47:04.119 --> 01:47:05.920 a Is that like a mom Jean thing? 2387 01:47:06.880 --> 01:47:07.199 No? 2388 01:47:07.239 --> 01:47:09.880 Oh high rise Yeah, No, high rise are back, like 2389 01:47:10.000 --> 01:47:10.920 gen Z loves them. 2390 01:47:11.159 --> 01:47:13.600 The nineties fashions are back now. 2391 01:47:13.640 --> 01:47:14.720 Mary loves the soundboard. 2392 01:47:16.279 --> 01:47:16.840 I love that. 2393 01:47:16.920 --> 01:47:19.880 If you were just listening, you the thing I said 2394 01:47:19.960 --> 01:47:22.920 for real was as weird as the thing that was 2395 01:47:22.960 --> 01:47:23.840 on the soundboard. 2396 01:47:24.600 --> 01:47:29.319 Kind of Oh my god. M yeah, you know, low 2397 01:47:29.359 --> 01:47:31.039 rise jeans when you see him. So what is the 2398 01:47:31.079 --> 01:47:33.800 current trend? Is it higher? But I think what I'm just. 2399 01:47:33.680 --> 01:47:35.960 Saying is is like my boomer tank take is like 2400 01:47:36.000 --> 01:47:37.439 I don't care what's in fashion. 2401 01:47:37.479 --> 01:47:44.039 I'll never wear that. Uh it might be a millennial take, 2402 01:47:44.159 --> 01:47:46.720 so I'll try and think of an older take than that. 2403 01:47:46.800 --> 01:47:49.520 But like my boomer take is like I ain't going back, 2404 01:47:49.720 --> 01:47:51.800 like I'll never I won't do it. 2405 01:47:51.880 --> 01:47:56.039 I don't want to do Are they coming back ever again? Oh? 2406 01:47:56.119 --> 01:47:58.039 The kids are changing it up all over the place. 2407 01:47:58.439 --> 01:48:00.840 I Oh, yeah, I didn't talk about plants. 2408 01:48:01.239 --> 01:48:03.840 Yeah, I'm still talking about pants down. I'll let you 2409 01:48:03.840 --> 01:48:05.079 know when we're when we've moved on. 2410 01:48:05.119 --> 01:48:06.079 We're still in pants town. 2411 01:48:06.239 --> 01:48:10.520 Okay, Yeah, we're in crotch City. Yeah, I know. 2412 01:48:10.640 --> 01:48:15.399 I I also, I really really make no effort to 2413 01:48:15.479 --> 01:48:17.079 chase trends with how I dress. 2414 01:48:17.560 --> 01:48:19.920 I think in general, Yeah, I struggle with that. I 2415 01:48:19.960 --> 01:48:23.159 will try, but I can't try with low rise. 2416 01:48:23.319 --> 01:48:23.760 Uh. 2417 01:48:23.800 --> 01:48:27.439 Sometimes I say, uh, when I mean to search something, 2418 01:48:27.560 --> 01:48:29.880 I say google it, And I think that's kind of 2419 01:48:29.920 --> 01:48:31.079 a boom boom. 2420 01:48:31.560 --> 01:48:33.319 Do kids not boom google? 2421 01:48:34.039 --> 01:48:34.159 No? 2422 01:48:34.199 --> 01:48:35.680 I mean I think they google things, but I don't 2423 01:48:35.720 --> 01:48:40.119 think they say I'm going to go google it like work. 2424 01:48:41.399 --> 01:48:43.760 Huh. I guess I never like even paid attention. They 2425 01:48:43.840 --> 01:48:44.960 oh they say to I TBT. 2426 01:48:45.199 --> 01:48:48.640 Probably they probably say like go look it up or something, 2427 01:48:48.800 --> 01:48:51.439 But I say google it because I've been trained to 2428 01:48:51.560 --> 01:48:54.319 google things since I was fourteen, and now I don't 2429 01:48:54.359 --> 01:48:55.000 know any better. 2430 01:48:56.880 --> 01:48:59.600 I am starting to come around on like what Alex 2431 01:48:59.640 --> 01:49:01.960 from TROYA says. Here, we're the whole thing of like 2432 01:49:02.000 --> 01:49:06.560 broadcast TV like it. There was the heyday of like 2433 01:49:06.640 --> 01:49:08.359 oh we got Netflix, we got Hulu. 2434 01:49:08.479 --> 01:49:09.000 This is great. 2435 01:49:09.039 --> 01:49:10.920 It's got all this stuff, like you know, all this stuff. 2436 01:49:10.920 --> 01:49:13.680 I want to see it on these couple of things 2437 01:49:13.680 --> 01:49:16.399 like nowadays it is like, look, I'm never gonna fucking 2438 01:49:16.399 --> 01:49:19.840 get Paramount. Plus I'm never gonna get Disney whatever. I'm 2439 01:49:19.880 --> 01:49:22.760 not going like. And so it does suck when there's 2440 01:49:22.800 --> 01:49:24.840 just things that you don't know how to watch. 2441 01:49:26.359 --> 01:49:29.039 I am an NBA fan. It's the one sport I 2442 01:49:29.079 --> 01:49:31.720 still truly care about. I try to watch as many 2443 01:49:31.720 --> 01:49:34.279 Warriors games as possible. I know I was winging about 2444 01:49:34.760 --> 01:49:40.319 Search Party. I being an NBA viewer on any given night, 2445 01:49:40.319 --> 01:49:43.039 and these are eighty five game seasons you need to 2446 01:49:43.840 --> 01:49:46.600 one night it's on Peacock. The other night, it is 2447 01:49:46.640 --> 01:49:51.000 on ESPN the other night, it's on HBO. Another night 2448 01:49:51.319 --> 01:49:54.720 it's on You need Fubo or Sling or. 2449 01:49:55.439 --> 01:49:56.079 Which are all Like. 2450 01:49:57.920 --> 01:50:01.079 All they're doing is giving you the same packages broadcast 2451 01:50:01.119 --> 01:50:03.439 like satellite TV. They're just eighty dollars a month for 2452 01:50:03.560 --> 01:50:06.439 this for everything you could ever want to watch. However, 2453 01:50:06.960 --> 01:50:10.279 then NBC Sports Bay Area has the exclusive rights to 2454 01:50:10.279 --> 01:50:12.359 some of these Warriors games. And this is my fault 2455 01:50:12.359 --> 01:50:13.840 for being a fan of a West Coast team when 2456 01:50:13.840 --> 01:50:15.800 I live in New York. But I can't watch those 2457 01:50:15.840 --> 01:50:18.880 because it's blacked out. So I've resorted to other means, 2458 01:50:18.880 --> 01:50:20.520 and I don't feel bad about it, but oh my 2459 01:50:20.680 --> 01:50:26.279 fucking god, Adam Silver, the commissioner, is just a He's 2460 01:50:26.359 --> 01:50:29.359 making my viewing experience so miserable, and I will never 2461 01:50:29.399 --> 01:50:29.960 forgive him. 2462 01:50:30.279 --> 01:50:30.880 I mean, I will say. 2463 01:50:30.920 --> 01:50:34.119 The thing that is universally positive is the idea of 2464 01:50:34.159 --> 01:50:36.920 being able to just on demand, you know, like easily, 2465 01:50:36.960 --> 01:50:38.680 Like you don't have to You're not programming a fucking 2466 01:50:38.760 --> 01:50:41.119 VCR to record your show or whatever. You can just 2467 01:50:41.159 --> 01:50:43.159 load it up and you can play it. But the 2468 01:50:43.199 --> 01:50:46.119 beauty of a like cable subscription back in the day 2469 01:50:46.319 --> 01:50:48.520 was like, Okay, you're gonna pay a lot, you're gonna 2470 01:50:48.520 --> 01:50:51.279 pay one hundred plus dollars a month probably, but you'll 2471 01:50:51.319 --> 01:50:53.720 have everything. Everything you need is there. You got the 2472 01:50:53.880 --> 01:50:56.000 HBO plan, you got all the shows you want to 2473 01:50:56.000 --> 01:50:59.239 see are there. And now it's just it's so piecemeal 2474 01:50:59.640 --> 01:51:02.119 that and it's so spread out that like in those 2475 01:51:02.159 --> 01:51:04.399 early you know, two thousand and eight, two thousand nine 2476 01:51:04.479 --> 01:51:06.439 days or whatever, when it was just kind of Netflix 2477 01:51:06.479 --> 01:51:09.119 and Hulu, that was great. But now it's just like 2478 01:51:09.239 --> 01:51:13.520 everything's on everything, and it also gets traded around between things, 2479 01:51:13.520 --> 01:51:14.640 so it's like, wait, I used to be able to 2480 01:51:14.680 --> 01:51:17.000 watch this on this and now who has the rights 2481 01:51:17.000 --> 01:51:18.840 to this now? And you google it and you see 2482 01:51:18.840 --> 01:51:21.800 a fucking article but it's outdated now, and you know 2483 01:51:21.840 --> 01:51:23.720 your Apple TV is supposed to tell you what the 2484 01:51:23.760 --> 01:51:26.039 thing is. But it's it's so much more complicated now, 2485 01:51:26.199 --> 01:51:28.720 and I don't know if you're really saving that much money. 2486 01:51:28.760 --> 01:51:32.000 I do like being able to just on demand watch everything, 2487 01:51:32.560 --> 01:51:34.479 but I think it is worse. 2488 01:51:34.960 --> 01:51:38.079 There's some misowning things, like I hate that when I 2489 01:51:38.119 --> 01:51:40.359 want to watch a movie, I'm renting it for forty 2490 01:51:40.399 --> 01:51:45.000 eight hours. Like I liked buying things and having them. 2491 01:51:45.319 --> 01:51:47.199 Or if you buy it, you own like a digital 2492 01:51:47.279 --> 01:51:50.319 version of it that if in some worst case scenario 2493 01:51:50.960 --> 01:51:53.239 something goes wrong, you could just lose it and not 2494 01:51:53.359 --> 01:51:54.800 it's not in your house. 2495 01:51:55.119 --> 01:51:57.359 Is this a boomer thing that? Like I still buy 2496 01:51:57.640 --> 01:51:59.600 a ton of four K Blu rays, Like do you 2497 01:51:59.640 --> 01:51:59.960 guys do? 2498 01:52:00.279 --> 01:52:00.439 Yes? 2499 01:52:00.840 --> 01:52:02.359 Okay, I do every once in a while for ones 2500 01:52:02.399 --> 01:52:04.039 I really like. I just collector's aspect. 2501 01:52:04.079 --> 01:52:06.920 Yeah, not even just collector's aspect, Like if I'm going 2502 01:52:06.960 --> 01:52:10.159 to watch something like the quality is better off going 2503 01:52:10.159 --> 01:52:11.920 off of streaming, and it's like going up and down 2504 01:52:11.920 --> 01:52:14.000 depending on the bandwidth or whatever, Like, Okay, I've got 2505 01:52:14.039 --> 01:52:16.119 a disc I'm putting in my PS five. It's going 2506 01:52:16.199 --> 01:52:18.199 to be the best possible quality. It's gonna have the 2507 01:52:18.199 --> 01:52:20.479 at most, it's gonna have all that stuff. Like any 2508 01:52:20.479 --> 01:52:22.479 movie I really like, I try to buy on four K. 2509 01:52:24.119 --> 01:52:25.920 I would do that more often if I have more space, 2510 01:52:27.079 --> 01:52:29.239 But yes, I do that when I really I see 2511 01:52:29.279 --> 01:52:31.119 a movie on streaming them, I really fucking like that. 2512 01:52:31.159 --> 01:52:32.600 I know we're going to rewatch it. I want to 2513 01:52:32.640 --> 01:52:34.800 get the Blu ray as like a collector's item or 2514 01:52:34.840 --> 01:52:35.479 something like that. 2515 01:52:37.760 --> 01:52:38.000 Yeah. 2516 01:52:38.079 --> 01:52:39.720 I probably have more that are not come to mind 2517 01:52:39.760 --> 01:52:42.800 right now, but I think we've sufficiently covered the question. 2518 01:52:42.960 --> 01:52:44.640 I mean, that's so many boomer things. 2519 01:52:44.800 --> 01:52:45.880 I probably have a lot. 2520 01:52:46.119 --> 01:52:47.359 I have a lot of boomer stuff. 2521 01:52:47.439 --> 01:52:50.560 Yeah, thank you Alex again. Uh okay, so this one 2522 01:52:50.640 --> 01:52:53.239 I didn't read the whole thing. Basically, there's a character 2523 01:52:53.399 --> 01:52:58.319 on Survivor Australia named Mark Wales that Caitlin, who wrote 2524 01:52:58.319 --> 01:52:59.079 in claims I. 2525 01:52:59.079 --> 01:53:01.319 Look a lot alike. 2526 01:53:01.640 --> 01:53:02.119 Look him up. 2527 01:53:02.359 --> 01:53:05.880 It's it's Mark Wales, Australia Survivor. 2528 01:53:05.680 --> 01:53:11.119 Mark Wales, like the country I believe, so Survivor. I 2529 01:53:11.119 --> 01:53:15.159 don't see if it looks like you. Let's see. Oh, 2530 01:53:15.199 --> 01:53:18.279 this guy's way more Jack than you, Mark Wales. Yeah, 2531 01:53:18.319 --> 01:53:20.079 this guy is Oh my god, this is like a 2532 01:53:20.119 --> 01:53:21.720 Pokemon evolution of Mike Marty. 2533 01:53:22.000 --> 01:53:25.000 Yeah. I think they showed a photo of his face. Yeah, 2534 01:53:25.039 --> 01:53:25.840 oh this is crazy. 2535 01:53:25.920 --> 01:53:31.560 Yeah, this is a way more Jack to Mike Maarty. 2536 01:53:31.840 --> 01:53:35.640 Oh man did he win? 2537 01:53:38.960 --> 01:53:39.239 Uh? 2538 01:53:39.279 --> 01:53:42.319 Oh in the face? I could I see it sort 2539 01:53:42.319 --> 01:53:42.840 of see. 2540 01:53:42.640 --> 01:53:44.039 It even there. 2541 01:53:44.359 --> 01:53:48.840 This guy's chin is like as big as his body, 2542 01:53:49.079 --> 01:53:49.399 Like it. 2543 01:53:49.439 --> 01:53:53.000 Is so the like this is like a bj Blaskawitz 2544 01:53:53.039 --> 01:53:54.079 like Olfenstein guy. 2545 01:53:54.119 --> 01:53:56.119 This guy is sort of saying he does look like 2546 01:53:56.119 --> 01:53:57.119 a video game character. 2547 01:53:58.840 --> 01:54:01.520 He looks like they ran out of polygons to make 2548 01:54:01.560 --> 01:54:03.239 him and so they just made his head a square. 2549 01:54:03.720 --> 01:54:05.880 But anyway, they use that as a preface to ask 2550 01:54:05.920 --> 01:54:08.800 this question. They explain the rules of Australia Survivor. I 2551 01:54:08.840 --> 01:54:11.920 think it's the same as the normal one, but here's 2552 01:54:11.920 --> 01:54:14.560 the question. There are three main elements that production claims 2553 01:54:14.560 --> 01:54:18.159 are essential to win Survivor a lot of times the 2554 01:54:18.159 --> 01:54:22.880 popularity contest. However, the three main elements are outplay and outlast. 2555 01:54:23.640 --> 01:54:26.960 Kind of self explanatory, but basically, outwit means you strategically 2556 01:54:27.000 --> 01:54:31.159 beat everyone. Outplay lends favor to advantages or challenge wins, 2557 01:54:31.760 --> 01:54:35.319 and outlast means you simply last longer than your adversaries. 2558 01:54:35.840 --> 01:54:39.520 Australia Survivor is set in various locations into Australia for 2559 01:54:39.560 --> 01:54:42.479 around fifty days. You'll be surviving largely on the elements 2560 01:54:42.479 --> 01:54:44.840 for this amount of time. This would be in phishing, foraging, 2561 01:54:44.960 --> 01:54:48.800 competition and challenges, and being socially adept. My question for 2562 01:54:48.840 --> 01:54:51.960 you all is which of these three themes do you 2563 01:54:52.039 --> 01:54:54.920 think each of you would be best at. Who do 2564 01:54:54.960 --> 01:54:57.199 you think would win if all three of you were 2565 01:54:57.199 --> 01:55:00.640 on a season at the same time, Caitlin, So the 2566 01:55:00.720 --> 01:55:07.720 three being outwit, outlast, outplay out strategy and like like 2567 01:55:07.760 --> 01:55:08.439 Sutter few. 2568 01:55:08.439 --> 01:55:10.520 When you're the most strategic of us. 2569 01:55:11.479 --> 01:55:15.279 But Mike, yeah, but video would be better the physical stuff. 2570 01:55:15.439 --> 01:55:18.800 I think, like I couldn't necessarily do the physical stuff. 2571 01:55:18.840 --> 01:55:21.319 I think the social element I could do very well. 2572 01:55:21.359 --> 01:55:25.119 Have you seen the physical stuff? Sometimes it's like, who's 2573 01:55:25.159 --> 01:55:28.600 gonna stand on this pole the longest? 2574 01:55:29.039 --> 01:55:32.279 Hmmm, maybe that's outlast, but it's like that was one 2575 01:55:32.279 --> 01:55:34.359 of the challenges I saw, and it was just like, 2576 01:55:35.840 --> 01:55:38.479 here's a pole, it's not very wide, you have to 2577 01:55:38.520 --> 01:55:40.479 stand on it, and if you fall into the water, 2578 01:55:40.680 --> 01:55:41.159 you're out. 2579 01:55:41.239 --> 01:55:43.199 And then they made them stand there for like fucking 2580 01:55:43.319 --> 01:55:44.279 six hours. 2581 01:55:44.520 --> 01:55:46.800 I've done a lot of fifty turned Mario Parties. 2582 01:55:47.399 --> 01:55:49.479 This does sound like Mario Party because they're talking about 2583 01:55:49.760 --> 01:55:52.520 out playing someone in challenges while you outlast them, and 2584 01:55:52.640 --> 01:55:54.680 also there is the social element of Mario Party. 2585 01:55:54.720 --> 01:55:57.600 Did Mario Party? Did Survivor just copy Mario Party? Or 2586 01:55:57.640 --> 01:56:00.319 vice versa? Should I watch Survivor? You probably love it? 2587 01:56:00.439 --> 01:56:05.359 On season like sixty, I think. 2588 01:56:07.199 --> 01:56:10.119 No, No. 2589 01:56:10.239 --> 01:56:11.720 I think Mary would be the one to. 2590 01:56:14.399 --> 01:56:19.000 Charm her way through, which would be out witting Dan, 2591 01:56:19.079 --> 01:56:20.840 I think more than Mary. 2592 01:56:22.399 --> 01:56:25.159 The fact you say that show we're assuming. 2593 01:56:25.079 --> 01:56:27.880 There's other people, right, Like, it's not just. 2594 01:56:27.880 --> 01:56:29.680 Us, there's like twelve people or whatever. 2595 01:56:30.359 --> 01:56:33.119 I think I could rally people to make Dan the 2596 01:56:33.199 --> 01:56:34.960 victim quite easily. 2597 01:56:35.920 --> 01:56:38.239 The way the way Bank always puts it is that 2598 01:56:38.319 --> 01:56:41.199 like my speechcraft skill is just like at a million 2599 01:56:41.319 --> 01:56:43.319 out of ten, you know, So it's like I think 2600 01:56:43.359 --> 01:56:45.119 that is where I would do very well. 2601 01:56:46.359 --> 01:56:48.319 And I disagree vehemently on this. 2602 01:56:49.600 --> 01:56:56.119 I never disagree with and loves you in so many circumstances, 2603 01:56:56.159 --> 01:56:59.399 like maybe here I would be really good to the 2604 01:56:59.439 --> 01:57:02.880 outwit the social element, but yeah, any of the physical stuff, 2605 01:57:02.920 --> 01:57:04.399 I think I would be the least of us three. 2606 01:57:05.960 --> 01:57:09.560 You imagine a fucking Survivor challenge where it's a spelling 2607 01:57:09.640 --> 01:57:13.319 bee and Dan's just like fuck yeah yeah, But most 2608 01:57:13.319 --> 01:57:15.039 of the time it's like hang from this bar and 2609 01:57:15.079 --> 01:57:15.479 you're like. 2610 01:57:15.479 --> 01:57:18.840 Uh oh, I'm not doing it? Is that how play? 2611 01:57:18.880 --> 01:57:23.079 Would be the challenges I think I could outlast, which 2612 01:57:23.159 --> 01:57:24.439 I guess both of those would be kind of a 2613 01:57:24.439 --> 01:57:28.039 physical element, but m. 2614 01:57:31.159 --> 01:57:34.199 For each of us, Yeah, I would think. 2615 01:57:34.439 --> 01:57:37.279 I would be out last I think Mary would be 2616 01:57:37.279 --> 01:57:38.279 out play and I'd be out wit. 2617 01:57:38.520 --> 01:57:40.439 I think Mary be outwit. I think you'd be out play. 2618 01:57:40.840 --> 01:57:42.920 I think you'd be out like you'd get out d. 2619 01:57:44.960 --> 01:57:46.920 Yeah. Now, Dan, you're very lucky. 2620 01:57:46.920 --> 01:57:48.720 I think you could pick up your very You play 2621 01:57:48.760 --> 01:57:50.800 so many games that you're good at picking up rules 2622 01:57:50.800 --> 01:57:53.359 really quickly and figuring out how to maneuver through them 2623 01:57:53.359 --> 01:57:55.920 and exploit them. I think you would understand the challenges 2624 01:57:55.960 --> 01:57:58.319 really quickly and see where the seams are, like they 2625 01:57:58.720 --> 01:57:59.840 all be a mini sexuality. 2626 01:58:00.119 --> 01:58:02.319 The challenges are puzzles, like you'd be able to like 2627 01:58:02.399 --> 01:58:04.880 figure out like how you just get all the really 2628 01:58:04.920 --> 01:58:06.640 should have told you, guys, I say, puzzles, puzzles. 2629 01:58:06.680 --> 01:58:10.720 Now you have to of the puzzle around. I could 2630 01:58:10.840 --> 01:58:11.880 always say, I think. 2631 01:58:11.760 --> 01:58:13.880 You would see the meta of the challenge really quickly 2632 01:58:13.920 --> 01:58:15.560 because you play so many games and are really well 2633 01:58:15.680 --> 01:58:16.640 versed in just OK. 2634 01:58:17.119 --> 01:58:18.920 I agree, we also got to give you something. 2635 01:58:19.399 --> 01:58:24.199 I think, thank you, I've had the boring. 2636 01:58:26.079 --> 01:58:30.239 There you go, Dan, We're proud of you. 2637 01:58:30.279 --> 01:58:34.000 But I've never had a problem lasting really long. 2638 01:58:34.319 --> 01:58:36.880 I actually my problem too. 2639 01:58:36.920 --> 01:58:39.279 I don't think I could outlast if like bugs came 2640 01:58:39.319 --> 01:58:41.159 after me, I'd be I think I would. 2641 01:58:41.000 --> 01:58:42.960 Like want to leave. I don't like bugs. I don't 2642 01:58:43.000 --> 01:58:43.840 like get eaten alive. 2643 01:58:44.399 --> 01:58:46.279 Yeah, I don't think any of us would win. To 2644 01:58:46.319 --> 01:58:49.760 be clear, I would. I would say my wine fridge 2645 01:58:49.760 --> 01:58:50.439 is on day two. 2646 01:58:50.760 --> 01:58:51.239 No, I'm Joe. 2647 01:58:51.239 --> 01:58:53.720 That's just me being a caricature. I don't think you 2648 01:58:53.760 --> 01:58:55.840 could win Survivor, Dan. I don't think you truly understand 2649 01:58:55.840 --> 01:58:56.760 what they do on the show. 2650 01:58:56.800 --> 01:58:58.359 I don't know what the show is, so I've not 2651 01:58:58.399 --> 01:58:59.000 really seen it. 2652 01:58:59.039 --> 01:59:06.479 But I do generally think I could win anything. 2653 01:59:06.720 --> 01:59:08.640 Sure, win. 2654 01:59:10.239 --> 01:59:13.600 You get voted off basically, and you with you win challenges, 2655 01:59:13.640 --> 01:59:16.479 you get immunity. Your only hope would be winning the 2656 01:59:16.520 --> 01:59:18.560 challenges and getting immunity, because I do feel like. 2657 01:59:20.159 --> 01:59:22.000 I wouldn't be like a heel to people on the 2658 01:59:22.000 --> 01:59:24.039 island like I would. I would understand that was an 2659 01:59:24.039 --> 01:59:27.319 element and it's not be a ship unlikable. 2660 01:59:27.680 --> 01:59:30.720 I think someone they would recognize because you have to 2661 01:59:30.720 --> 01:59:33.000 be a helper, you like, help other people set up 2662 01:59:33.039 --> 01:59:34.720 the camp or are you going to set up your 2663 01:59:34.760 --> 01:59:35.279 own camp. 2664 01:59:36.239 --> 01:59:40.279 I don't not do any of that ship exactly to 2665 01:59:40.279 --> 01:59:40.600 help me. 2666 01:59:45.279 --> 01:59:49.000 I don't yeah over here. 2667 01:59:48.840 --> 01:59:51.520 And then and then they'd all be sitting around the 2668 01:59:51.560 --> 01:59:54.520 fire starving because they don't give you any fucking food 2669 01:59:54.640 --> 01:59:56.600 unless you win the challenge. So if you lose the challenge, 2670 01:59:56.640 --> 02:00:00.760 everyone's hungry and miserable, and you'd be there being like 2671 02:00:01.279 --> 02:00:03.279 I did my part. 2672 02:00:03.560 --> 02:00:07.800 I'd sneak in and steal the food to the other camp. Yeah, 2673 02:00:07.800 --> 02:00:09.279 it's huge, and then I'd bring it back and I'd 2674 02:00:09.319 --> 02:00:10.800 be the hero in my camp and no one's voted me. 2675 02:00:10.800 --> 02:00:11.079 I would. 2676 02:00:11.079 --> 02:00:13.439 Then there are. 2677 02:00:13.840 --> 02:00:18.359 Evil people that have done well. They have like succeeded. 2678 02:00:19.479 --> 02:00:22.359 I don't watch too much Survivor, but I have seen 2679 02:00:22.439 --> 02:00:25.960 the first season. I remember it vividly that like the 2680 02:00:26.079 --> 02:00:28.760 lady who made it, everybody will. 2681 02:00:28.960 --> 02:00:30.439 A couple ladies hated. 2682 02:00:30.119 --> 02:00:33.600 Her at the end because she, you know, sacrificed them 2683 02:00:33.600 --> 02:00:35.520 and so they were like basically like if you were 2684 02:00:35.680 --> 02:00:38.880 thirsty and I had water and we were in a desert, 2685 02:00:39.039 --> 02:00:41.840 I wouldn't give you a drink. Like they're so mad 2686 02:00:41.880 --> 02:00:45.319 at her for what she did because she like crossed them. 2687 02:00:45.359 --> 02:00:47.119 You have to cross people in the game. You have 2688 02:00:47.159 --> 02:00:48.199 to like trick them and. 2689 02:00:48.159 --> 02:00:50.119 Be like we have an ally, and I'd be like, 2690 02:00:50.560 --> 02:00:51.960 I'd go to you and I'd be like you and 2691 02:00:52.000 --> 02:00:56.720 I we are in like cahoots and we won't vote 2692 02:00:56.720 --> 02:00:58.359 each other off, right, And you'd be like yes, and 2693 02:00:58.399 --> 02:00:58.920 I'd shake your hand. 2694 02:00:58.960 --> 02:01:00.159 I'd look you in the eye and then I to 2695 02:01:00.199 --> 02:01:01.439 Mike and I'd be like, we gotta get Dan. 2696 02:01:01.399 --> 02:01:04.680 Out, man, I'm talking about this. I feel like I 2697 02:01:04.720 --> 02:01:07.000 got to start a campaign to get me on Survivor 2698 02:01:07.079 --> 02:01:07.479 for real. 2699 02:01:08.199 --> 02:01:12.600 Yeah, I think that would be good. Forever challenge Dan 2700 02:01:12.640 --> 02:01:14.479 belly flops into a shark pool and just. 2701 02:01:14.439 --> 02:01:16.119 Get he doesn't deserve to win. 2702 02:01:16.359 --> 02:01:18.640 I do think there is a I'm not going to 2703 02:01:18.640 --> 02:01:21.079 get about your silver tongue, but I will say that 2704 02:01:21.119 --> 02:01:23.520 there is a damn factor in which you have like 2705 02:01:24.119 --> 02:01:27.079 slip slopped your way into success so many times that 2706 02:01:27.159 --> 02:01:31.720 sometimes I'm like, maybe he will just fan dangle himself 2707 02:01:31.760 --> 02:01:33.960 to like win a couple of challenges at the right 2708 02:01:34.000 --> 02:01:35.039 time and get pretty far. 2709 02:01:35.399 --> 02:01:37.079 I'm going to look into this. I want to be 2710 02:01:37.119 --> 02:01:37.800 on Survivor. 2711 02:01:38.399 --> 02:01:40.800 You have to send in audition tapes and whatnot. I 2712 02:01:40.800 --> 02:01:41.319 could do that. 2713 02:01:41.399 --> 02:01:42.840 Yeah, I know it's I had to make a video 2714 02:01:42.880 --> 02:01:44.720 for Taco Bell. That's what I'm saying you Taylor made 2715 02:01:44.720 --> 02:01:47.479 for it. I would just use the zip line. That 2716 02:01:47.520 --> 02:01:51.199 would be my entire motive. I don't think I'll go 2717 02:01:51.319 --> 02:01:54.239 far in this Survivor again. I think I would maybe 2718 02:01:54.279 --> 02:01:56.039 make it past a couple of days, but then by 2719 02:01:56.199 --> 02:01:57.720 that day there I would I don't want to be 2720 02:01:57.760 --> 02:02:02.119 around humans to begin with that much in close quarters, 2721 02:02:02.199 --> 02:02:04.199 let alone on an island where we don't have that 2722 02:02:04.279 --> 02:02:04.680 much food. 2723 02:02:04.680 --> 02:02:05.560 And I'm grumpy. 2724 02:02:05.800 --> 02:02:08.039 God, I I am now just thinking about this, and 2725 02:02:08.079 --> 02:02:09.239 I super want this. 2726 02:02:11.840 --> 02:02:12.600 Dance. I want. 2727 02:02:12.960 --> 02:02:14.479 I want to be on Survitor. 2728 02:02:15.600 --> 02:02:19.079 You should watch some Survivor first, you should watch some Yeah, 2729 02:02:19.159 --> 02:02:21.720 it feels strategy. 2730 02:02:21.359 --> 02:02:24.039 Is that I've never seen an episode of Survivor. 2731 02:02:24.359 --> 02:02:28.720 Let's go Sudden Rock and you have to fight a lion. 2732 02:02:30.119 --> 02:02:33.800 That happened nothing, who ever died on all the time 2733 02:02:34.039 --> 02:02:37.720 they do the first I don't think they have with food. 2734 02:02:37.800 --> 02:02:38.640 They starve you. 2735 02:02:38.800 --> 02:02:44.039 They starve you and you're so hungry. You have as 2736 02:02:44.439 --> 02:02:48.119 a whole table of fried chicken, and you only get 2737 02:02:48.159 --> 02:02:51.680 it if you like win the challenge, and then you 2738 02:02:51.720 --> 02:02:54.079 get to pick one Like let's say you don't win, 2739 02:02:54.239 --> 02:02:56.000 and so there's like ten people who are starving and 2740 02:02:56.079 --> 02:02:58.319 one person who won, and then they'll say you get 2741 02:02:58.319 --> 02:03:00.920 to pick one friend. And the way they do it 2742 02:03:01.000 --> 02:03:03.079 is they like pit people against each other. She'll be like, 2743 02:03:03.119 --> 02:03:04.840 I told you to pick me. I told you I 2744 02:03:04.880 --> 02:03:05.479 was hungry. 2745 02:03:06.119 --> 02:03:08.479 I know I would be friends some like grips on 2746 02:03:08.560 --> 02:03:10.920 the crew and then they would like, I want some 2747 02:03:10.960 --> 02:03:12.640 of that chicken in the in the middle of the night. 2748 02:03:12.800 --> 02:03:15.680 Give me yeah on the ground, just one. 2749 02:03:16.920 --> 02:03:17.119 Yeah. 2750 02:03:17.680 --> 02:03:19.319 This is why I think I can get out of prison. 2751 02:03:20.079 --> 02:03:21.479 This is how I would be out of prison. It's 2752 02:03:21.520 --> 02:03:23.920 just befriending people and stuff like that. And help me 2753 02:03:23.920 --> 02:03:24.520 out here, you know. 2754 02:03:24.800 --> 02:03:29.279 First to be shanked on Survivor. 2755 02:03:29.000 --> 02:03:31.199 And then thrown over the ray into the end of 2756 02:03:31.239 --> 02:03:31.680 the yard. 2757 02:03:32.439 --> 02:03:33.119 I want this. 2758 02:03:34.079 --> 02:03:34.920 I want this. 2759 02:03:36.680 --> 02:03:36.800 Uh. 2760 02:03:37.319 --> 02:03:40.279 Well, thank you, Caitlin. I think we settled. I think 2761 02:03:40.319 --> 02:03:43.640 we all arrived at the logical conclusions there. Uh that 2762 02:03:43.840 --> 02:03:47.520 is our episode. That's fire Escape Cast at gmail dot com. 2763 02:03:47.560 --> 02:03:51.319 Get more questions in load up that inbox for twenty 2764 02:03:51.359 --> 02:03:55.399 twenty six. Thank you, Caitlin, Thank you. Alex has written 2765 02:03:55.439 --> 02:03:56.880 in many times, Thank you, Stephanie. 2766 02:03:57.520 --> 02:03:57.640 Uh. 2767 02:03:58.039 --> 02:03:59.560 We will be back in a couple of weeks. But 2768 02:03:59.760 --> 02:04:03.119 in the meantime, a couple housekeeping things. If you're not 2769 02:04:03.239 --> 02:04:07.239 a patron of any type, you can go just become 2770 02:04:07.239 --> 02:04:09.920 a follower so you know when the bonus episodes are 2771 02:04:09.920 --> 02:04:13.159 going up on our YouTube. You should also go subscribe 2772 02:04:13.199 --> 02:04:15.720 to that for similar reasons if you haven't already. If 2773 02:04:15.720 --> 02:04:17.880 you want to get ad free episodes, or you want 2774 02:04:17.880 --> 02:04:21.560 to get the video versions, become a patron of either tier. 2775 02:04:21.600 --> 02:04:24.159 If you're a video patron, you can watch Mike and 2776 02:04:24.199 --> 02:04:26.960 Vinnie Save the World, which is my co op Total 2777 02:04:27.000 --> 02:04:32.199 War Warhammer three playthrough with Vinnie Caravella from Nextlander. We're 2778 02:04:32.239 --> 02:04:36.600 also doing in the off weeks from that campaign, which 2779 02:04:36.640 --> 02:04:39.720 is every other week, we're doing one over on Nextlander. 2780 02:04:39.840 --> 02:04:42.239 Go be a patron for them to watch that. That's 2781 02:04:42.680 --> 02:04:45.920 Vinnie and I doing an evil campaign. Dan, what do 2782 02:04:45.960 --> 02:04:47.039 you have going on in the meantime? 2783 02:04:47.640 --> 02:04:51.079 Giant Bomb and giant bomb dot com. Check out the site, 2784 02:04:51.359 --> 02:04:54.800 Chuck Chuck Tawski. Rebuild the site. It is fantastic now. 2785 02:04:55.479 --> 02:04:58.119 It's doing a lot of fun stuff there. Also, like 2786 02:04:58.159 --> 02:05:00.920 I said earlier, I think I am gonna maybe try 2787 02:05:00.920 --> 02:05:04.000 to start streaming more on my personal twitch doing sick. 2788 02:05:04.239 --> 02:05:05.520 I keep wanting to say Sectory. 2789 02:05:06.239 --> 02:05:09.600 See I can't want to say Secura every time we're 2790 02:05:09.680 --> 02:05:10.319 talking about it. 2791 02:05:10.760 --> 02:05:13.399 Yeah, yeah, I do want to play Securo. So maybe 2792 02:05:13.439 --> 02:05:15.680 by the time this episode comes out. Maybe I've already started, 2793 02:05:15.720 --> 02:05:17.600 so keep an eye on those VODs and stuff like that. 2794 02:05:17.680 --> 02:05:19.640 But I think I want to play securo. 2795 02:05:20.039 --> 02:05:21.680 Let me let me know when you do. I might 2796 02:05:21.960 --> 02:05:24.359 tune in to just check in every once in a while. 2797 02:05:24.680 --> 02:05:26.199 It'll be Dan Reiker to own twitch. 2798 02:05:26.640 --> 02:05:27.680 Mary, what do you have going on? 2799 02:05:27.960 --> 02:05:29.039 Same thing as always. 2800 02:05:29.119 --> 02:05:31.279 I stream most of the time when I can on 2801 02:05:31.399 --> 02:05:32.800 Mondays on Twitch. 2802 02:05:34.560 --> 02:05:39.560 I bowl on Tuesdays. I podcast on Wednesdays. I'm a 2803 02:05:39.600 --> 02:05:40.279 busy girl. 2804 02:05:41.079 --> 02:05:44.000 Nice, where can we watch you bowl? I'm just kidding, 2805 02:05:44.000 --> 02:05:44.319 don't know. 2806 02:05:44.600 --> 02:05:48.319 Yeah, I wish, I maybe I should. I would like 2807 02:05:48.359 --> 02:05:50.199 actually to stream one of our balls. I will admit 2808 02:05:50.239 --> 02:05:52.640 to everyone though I'm not very good, but my average 2809 02:05:52.640 --> 02:05:55.800 has slowly climbed from one hundred to one hundred and 2810 02:05:55.880 --> 02:05:56.479 twenty five. 2811 02:05:56.840 --> 02:05:59.159 Oh you weren't kidding, you suck, I'm joking. I don't 2812 02:05:59.199 --> 02:06:00.000 know bowling scores. 2813 02:06:00.159 --> 02:06:03.720 Actually, if you bowl in a league, you should be 2814 02:06:03.760 --> 02:06:05.319 at one sixty for sure. 2815 02:06:05.560 --> 02:06:08.760 I think it's weird to bowl lower than one fifty. 2816 02:06:10.039 --> 02:06:13.199 We are probably the worst league team in the league, 2817 02:06:13.359 --> 02:06:14.439 but we don't care. 2818 02:06:14.359 --> 02:06:18.199 Because double penetration to That's what I've wanted. The name. 2819 02:06:18.359 --> 02:06:20.239 Oh wait, no, it's the pensy low hands. 2820 02:06:20.079 --> 02:06:21.399 Right, Yeah, we're not. 2821 02:06:23.079 --> 02:06:24.600 Double penetration is really good. 2822 02:06:24.840 --> 02:06:27.279 Double penetration was the name I wanted it to be, 2823 02:06:27.359 --> 02:06:28.359 but that was denied. 2824 02:06:28.479 --> 02:06:30.399 So we are the pensy low hands. 2825 02:06:31.000 --> 02:06:31.479 That's good. 2826 02:06:32.079 --> 02:06:33.479 That's good, thank you. And I think it would have 2827 02:06:33.520 --> 02:06:34.840 been called full penetration. 2828 02:06:35.920 --> 02:06:38.920 Oh, full penetration is good. I don't know which ones 2829 02:06:39.000 --> 02:06:39.479 more A. 2830 02:06:39.399 --> 02:06:45.000 Little bit far down the goon hole, but yeah, it's pretty. 2831 02:06:44.680 --> 02:06:49.760 Bad turkey penetration. 2832 02:06:51.000 --> 02:06:54.880 I have only bowled a few times. I don't know 2833 02:06:54.880 --> 02:06:56.920 how the scoring works. I know I got like a 2834 02:06:56.960 --> 02:07:00.920 two hundred and ninety, but that's all I know. But 2835 02:07:01.000 --> 02:07:04.399 that's about no. I actually am weirdly. I'm decent at 2836 02:07:04.399 --> 02:07:05.760 bowling for not bowling much. 2837 02:07:05.840 --> 02:07:07.720 I can score by hand. That's the one college class 2838 02:07:07.760 --> 02:07:09.199 I went to. 2839 02:07:08.600 --> 02:07:11.079 Score by hand? How else ye throw the fucking ball, 2840 02:07:11.119 --> 02:07:14.680 you weirdo? In between you right, a little pencil a 2841 02:07:14.960 --> 02:07:18.079 X or asparea. Yeah, how does it work? Isn't it? 2842 02:07:18.079 --> 02:07:18.199 Well? 2843 02:07:18.199 --> 02:07:19.920 We didn't know? This is boring thing to get into now. 2844 02:07:19.960 --> 02:07:21.640 It's like you add if you get a strike, you 2845 02:07:21.680 --> 02:07:23.560 add ten to the previous one. If you get another strike, 2846 02:07:23.600 --> 02:07:25.560 you had ten to get a strike. Let's say you 2847 02:07:25.560 --> 02:07:29.279 get a strike on the first frame. Very first roll, 2848 02:07:29.319 --> 02:07:32.640 you get a strike, you were getting ten guaranteed, and 2849 02:07:32.680 --> 02:07:35.600 then you were adding the next two frames, so that 2850 02:07:35.640 --> 02:07:37.520 can be a two to in a seven. But then 2851 02:07:37.560 --> 02:07:39.920 you also get that two and a seven from the 2852 02:07:39.920 --> 02:07:43.119 second frame. But let's say you get that's where like 2853 02:07:43.119 --> 02:07:45.319 turkeys and stuff like that. Yeah, it matter because like 2854 02:07:45.399 --> 02:07:48.520 strike strike strike, Well that first strike is worth thirty, 2855 02:07:48.720 --> 02:07:50.840 the second one is worth at least twenty, and then 2856 02:07:50.880 --> 02:07:52.720 whatever the next frame is, you know, so it's like 2857 02:07:52.840 --> 02:07:54.880 it kind of like doubles up on each other in 2858 02:07:54.880 --> 02:07:56.960 a way. So yeah, again, I don't I didn't know 2859 02:07:56.960 --> 02:07:58.640 how to score. I know I got four turkeys in 2860 02:07:58.680 --> 02:08:01.159 one game, but pretty cool. 2861 02:08:01.560 --> 02:08:04.920 What is it fifteen frames? It's ten frames, ten frames. 2862 02:08:04.960 --> 02:08:06.800 I don't think four turkeys as possible. 2863 02:08:06.840 --> 02:08:10.199 No, not in one game unless you get all strikes 2864 02:08:10.279 --> 02:08:13.560 and then you just count like that's just overlapping turkeys. 2865 02:08:13.920 --> 02:08:17.479 That's just a three turkey. Yeah, what is a group? 2866 02:08:17.520 --> 02:08:19.239 What is a group of turkeys called? 2867 02:08:19.399 --> 02:08:23.039 There's always a weird name for gaggles, a gaggle, So 2868 02:08:23.119 --> 02:08:26.119 I would get like a gaggle is all strikes as 2869 02:08:26.159 --> 02:08:27.920 a gaggle I've done a gaggle before. I went three 2870 02:08:28.000 --> 02:08:30.399 hundred and people were freaking out and congratulating me. 2871 02:08:30.439 --> 02:08:32.840 I just didn't understand it. I was like, that was easy. 2872 02:08:33.840 --> 02:08:35.520 We'll be back in a couple of weeks with episode 2873 02:08:35.520 --> 02:08:38.439 one hundred and twenty five, quarter of away to our 2874 02:08:38.439 --> 02:08:41.159 two hundredth episode. That's a long ways out. I don't 2875 02:08:41.159 --> 02:08:42.880 want to do the math. That's like three years from now. 2876 02:08:44.560 --> 02:08:45.239 We'll be back with. 2877 02:08:45.359 --> 02:08:48.039 That one, Dana, Mary, thanks for joining. Everybody. 2878 02:08:48.119 --> 02:08:50.239 It was listening and watching. Thanks for joining as always, 2879 02:08:50.239 --> 02:08:51.239 We'll see in a couple of weeks. 2880 02:08:52.199 --> 02:09:00.560 Bye bye s