Speaker 1: What is the deal, Jessica Bill, we are back with
Speaker 1: more Fire Escape cast.
Speaker 2: It's episode one hundred and twenty four.
Speaker 1: It is thirty six degrees fahrenheit in Juneo, Alaska. I'm
Speaker 1: your host, Michael Maharty here as always with Mary kesh
Speaker 1: Hello and Dan Reiker.
Speaker 3: I don't think it's getting better the intro.
Speaker 1: I think it's I think it sounded pretty smooth. If
Speaker 1: I don't say so myself, if I do.
Speaker 4: A straight line, it is rest. Has it declined?
Speaker 2: I can try again? All right?
Speaker 4: What rhymes?
Speaker 2: That's exactly what.
Speaker 1: I came up with, Jessica Bill, Like ten am, today's
Speaker 1: Oh use that? Uh No, I don't feel like doing
Speaker 1: it again. We're in the show. What's going on with YouTube?
Speaker 2: Oh? Hanging out?
Speaker 3: I don't have anything, second way anything.
Speaker 1: I was just about to say it's twenty twenty six now,
Speaker 1: but we literally recorded on New Year's Day this year.
Speaker 5: Yeah, that was still when it was like the break
Speaker 5: for lack of a better term, quote unquote, where we
Speaker 5: weren't technically back into the grind. And now I am
Speaker 5: back into the grind, and it hits different when you
Speaker 5: got to go to work in the morning.
Speaker 3: Yeah, we're back at it, and none of us have
Speaker 3: to like go into a place right supposedtill once a week.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, you go in once a week.
Speaker 5: I love the remote life, but I will also say
Speaker 5: it comes with this like additional labor, that I have
Speaker 5: very little work life separation, and I am constantly plagued
Speaker 5: with like thinking about work even at like ten pm
Speaker 5: on a Tuesday, because my office is where I be gaming.
Speaker 3: I don't so if you were playing a game not
Speaker 3: for work or anything you are doing in the same.
Speaker 5: Room generally, But I actually to fix that.
Speaker 4: In twenty twenty six, I made a second office.
Speaker 3: Oh wait, is the room you're in now considered an office?
Speaker 4: Yes?
Speaker 5: Absolutely, I mean, I mean this is a closet, but yes,
Speaker 5: I have converted.
Speaker 4: It into my office.
Speaker 1: If you're not, if you're not a video patriot, it's
Speaker 1: a big it's a room.
Speaker 2: Yeah, But like he looks like.
Speaker 3: It doesn't look like a closet. I've been in that room.
Speaker 3: It's pretty big. I have great closets.
Speaker 4: You can't walk into your closets in my closet.
Speaker 2: You want to watch me do it.
Speaker 1: It's fucking He's got to fucking dodge this shitty looking xenomorphos.
Speaker 4: Wearing socks, shoving his body. He can't fit.
Speaker 2: He can't fit, it's gonna pinch his dick in the.
Speaker 4: Crack, shoves his body into the closet.
Speaker 1: Quick say something, Uh say somebody. He looks like he's stuck.
Speaker 1: The mirror is just flexing as if he is stuck.
Speaker 1: I think he's he's back, he's fine. He looks like
Speaker 1: he hurt himself. Hopefully he couldn't hear I say, okay,
Speaker 1: he's back.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: So like then they were saying that I think the
Speaker 1: bill supposedly did make it past Congress, past Senate is
Speaker 1: the one. Sorry, man, we got off on it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: what's up?
Speaker 3: I can see I legitimately got stuck in there. I
Speaker 3: tried to immediately leave, and then I couldn't.
Speaker 2: They don't mirror.
Speaker 3: It's like, you know, like car trunks, you know, in
Speaker 3: case the mob throws you in there. They put like
Speaker 3: emergency things then for closets.
Speaker 1: Turn there was flexing, and I was like, he might
Speaker 1: be stuck. But I think it's a bit that's funny, you.
Speaker 4: Know why, because you're not supposed to walk in there.
Speaker 3: Dan, it's not a walk in Oh, I'm sure you
Speaker 3: got handles a holy in all your closets.
Speaker 2: It's a cytyle in closet.
Speaker 4: It's a little too big, honestly.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I'm want to start broadcasting from in there.
Speaker 5: Yeah, broadcasting that anyway, I associate this with work, even
Speaker 5: though it's for gaming and for fun. So I made
Speaker 5: a secondary desk set up so that I can associate
Speaker 5: this with fun.
Speaker 4: That was my hope.
Speaker 3: And then the other offices are on the boat on
Speaker 3: top of the mountain, the water all the those are
Speaker 3: the other offices.
Speaker 4: Right, it's in the menagerie.
Speaker 2: I see, I see. Okay, the office behind a waterfall
Speaker 2: would be fucking sweetly, would be awesome.
Speaker 4: It's in the hallway above the stairs.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but no, it's a it's a sizable closet. I
Speaker 2: will say that.
Speaker 4: I love it. It's it's a cool. But this is
Speaker 4: you know, this house was nineteen fourteen. This is an old.
Speaker 5: House, as they did all sorts of weird stuff back then,
Speaker 5: And this was the attic because back then you had
Speaker 5: eight children and they all were in one bedroom, and
Speaker 5: the mom and dad were in one bedroom, and you
Speaker 5: sat around you looked at the fire every night, and
Speaker 5: that's how they lived back then, all the.
Speaker 3: Kids were in the same bedroom.
Speaker 5: Yeah, there's this is a two bedroom house, one hundred percent.
Speaker 5: And then sometime in nineteen dickity two, they converted the
Speaker 5: attic into the upstairs so all this is the attic
Speaker 5: of the house.
Speaker 4: I have no attic.
Speaker 5: This is static, and they convert it into the upstairs bedroom.
Speaker 4: And this is too small to.
Speaker 5: Be another bedroom, so it's a it's a closet.
Speaker 4: Super hot, fucking lutely, there is no there is no insulation.
Speaker 5: It is so hot in the summer it's it's outrageous,
Speaker 5: and in the winter it gets pretty freaking cold. It's
Speaker 5: not a great space temperature wise, but aesthetically it looks really.
Speaker 2: Quite flue house. I creep myself out last night.
Speaker 1: I was on Reddit and I forget why I was
Speaker 1: looking through like through like a fucking some game.
Speaker 2: Oh it was Warframe.
Speaker 1: I was on Warframe Reddit, but for some reason, when
Speaker 1: I was scrolling past a post on like are supernatural
Speaker 1: encounters something like that? Every once in a while I
Speaker 1: just peek in because generally speaking, it's clearly I think
Speaker 1: it's clearly staged things that people make out to be
Speaker 1: supernatural encounters in their home. So to me, it's like
Speaker 1: a short story horror engine. I saw one that was creepy,
Speaker 1: and a lot of people were saying bringing up stories
Speaker 1: about how people, even in like the suburbs or in
Speaker 1: certain kinds of houses, discovered that there was someone living
Speaker 1: in their attic for like a year or two. I
Speaker 1: saw a story about how someone what are they called, like.
Speaker 4: Lounge lizards or something. I swear there's.
Speaker 2: Lounge a lot lizard is a sex worker in a
Speaker 2: tractor trailer parking lots. I think that's what you're thinking of.
Speaker 4: Which tracks I mixed them up all the time.
Speaker 1: Yeah, But like these people were saying, oh, they would
Speaker 1: hear noises at night, and then they would be pretty
Speaker 1: positive someone was in their house or something like that,
Speaker 1: and then they'd be like, well, you should make sure
Speaker 1: all your doors are locked. They have the police come
Speaker 1: and one of the policemen asked, if you're there.
Speaker 2: They had attic access.
Speaker 1: Policemen went up and found like gatoray bottles full of
Speaker 1: urine and blankets and like a Coleman lantern. And then
Speaker 1: when he went to the outside of the house, he
Speaker 1: saw a ventilation hole that was just had the vent
Speaker 1: removed and it was near a tree, so they're pretty
Speaker 1: sure someone crept up the tree and was like taking
Speaker 1: shelter in their attic crawl space for like sear or
Speaker 1: something like that.
Speaker 3: So like leaving during the day to eat and things
Speaker 3: like that and then crawling up there at night to sleep, I.
Speaker 1: Guess so or vice versa going out at night to
Speaker 1: get fine food somehow and bringing it back during the
Speaker 1: day and lying low.
Speaker 2: Because there's other ones.
Speaker 1: There's creepy photos and like even if many of these
Speaker 1: I'm sure are staged, there's ones where people, you know,
Speaker 1: in the suburbs, a lot of people have like an
Speaker 1: attic above their garage, specifically a crawl space.
Speaker 2: There's photos of.
Speaker 1: Like one of them had a fridge in the garage
Speaker 1: with a couple of boxes on top and then the
Speaker 1: attic entry hole. And they said they had never used
Speaker 1: the attic since they moved into the house, but there
Speaker 1: were like fingerstreaks in the dust on top of the boxes. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: which is very creepy. That's infinitely creepier than a ghost.
Speaker 1: There was a human being living in my space that
Speaker 1: I didn't.
Speaker 3: Know about, So yeah, one can actually happen.
Speaker 1: So this morning, at like four in the morning. I
Speaker 1: duck tape the knife to the end of my broom
Speaker 1: and just start poking dark spots in the corner.
Speaker 2: In the ceiling, like your.
Speaker 5: Cats are like this, these knives the Kingdom weapon.
Speaker 2: Someone's like.
Speaker 1: This actually stopped. Ye was a very polar person. Oh
Speaker 1: this is Oh, I don't like this. Not a fan,
Speaker 1: but I don't want But that's what I think about
Speaker 1: when I think about addicts now because of that our
Speaker 1: supernatural post.
Speaker 5: I live in my attic and I don't even pee
Speaker 5: in any Gatorade bottles.
Speaker 2: You are the attic person.
Speaker 4: I am the attic person.
Speaker 3: It's a whole family below you.
Speaker 1: So wondering why someone's streaming Silk Song at full volume at.
Speaker 4: Three in the morning, screaming.
Speaker 1: She talks about how much she loves Lion King and
Speaker 1: c rtvsstairs.
Speaker 3: There's just six CRTs up there and a bunch of
Speaker 3: rings in a bunch.
Speaker 5: Of bee I pay mortgage as much as I want.
Speaker 1: That'd be a sick ruse if you've been paying their
Speaker 1: mortgage from their attic and then don't have to do shit.
Speaker 3: I don't have to say my attic if they paid
Speaker 3: the mortgage.
Speaker 2: Oldest grift in the book.
Speaker 4: I think if they helped out, I would be open
Speaker 4: to it. I would be open to a drifter.
Speaker 1: You're just describing a sublease if they're paying part of
Speaker 1: the mortgage.
Speaker 5: Now I want to do like an illegal For years,
Speaker 5: I think we've were onto something here.
Speaker 3: Dan, I want to speaking of weirder and more illegal though,
Speaker 3: speaking of.
Speaker 1: A grift, I watched The Sting from like nineteen seventy
Speaker 1: five for the first time recently. It's on Netflix now
Speaker 1: and I saw it. I've been I've been mean to
Speaker 1: watch that for a while because I watched Butch Cassidy
Speaker 1: and The Sundance Kid. Same director, same duo, Paul Newman
Speaker 1: and Robert Redford.
Speaker 2: It's really good.
Speaker 1: It's a It's Chicago like have you guys heard it
Speaker 1: reference before? I've heard the I I don't know if
Speaker 1: I've ever read this Robert Redford movie. It's referenced often,
Speaker 1: so generally speaking, they're trying to pull a big con
Speaker 1: on Robert Shaw. So this was what, oh Jaws was
Speaker 1: nineteen seventy seventy six. Oh, this was like this was
Speaker 1: like right around the same time. I think this was
Speaker 1: nineteen seventy five. So Robert Shaw is this New York
Speaker 1: gangster essentially who goes out to Chicago and he plays
Speaker 1: high stakes poker on the train to Chicago. Robert Redford
Speaker 1: is like this younger, up and coming kid trying to
Speaker 1: He's like a con man, but he's doing small jobs
Speaker 1: and then he ends up pissing off like Robert Shaw's
Speaker 1: gang gets into trouble and then for one reason or another,
Speaker 1: ends up wanting revenge against Robert Shaw. So he goes
Speaker 1: to Paul Newman, who is this famous con man in Chicago,
Speaker 1: and they pull this huge It's basically a heist movie,
Speaker 1: but it's all about technically not doing anything illegal. They
Speaker 1: say that at the beginning, although I'm pretty sure they
Speaker 1: do several league things. But they set up this elaborate
Speaker 1: wire room. It's it's very Ocean's eleven, but from nineteen
Speaker 1: seventy six.
Speaker 3: I think I like the like a good seventies heist movie,
Speaker 3: like a Thief with Michael Mann. James con Like that
Speaker 3: was awesome. This one's I should checked it out. I'm
Speaker 3: looking at his letter box now. I don't think I've
Speaker 3: ever seen a Robert Redford movie.
Speaker 1: This thing is a solid two hours. I will say
Speaker 1: it was nineteen seventy six. It was set and I
Speaker 1: think the thirties.
Speaker 3: He's one of the Avengers, was he really? How fucking
Speaker 3: old he's an Avengers end game?
Speaker 2: No?
Speaker 1: No, it's insane. Yeah, he's an Angy. But he died.
Speaker 1: Didn't he die two years ago or something that in
Speaker 1: September of last year? September once ago. Yeah, this thing's awesome.
Speaker 2: Give it a watch.
Speaker 3: Huh. Okay, I did think about watching a Bonca ny
Speaker 3: for movie night last week. We're going to watch the
Speaker 3: knives Out thing off of what we talked about last week.
Speaker 3: We'll wake up Dead now thing. As though we saw
Speaker 3: it was like two and a half, it was like
Speaker 3: two forty or something. Yeah, sometimes you're not in the
Speaker 3: mood for a movie that long, you know.
Speaker 4: I agree, there's just no reason for it anymore.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we did.
Speaker 3: We did part of the bad Lands was like an
Speaker 3: hour forty and so we did that instead.
Speaker 2: How was that?
Speaker 3: I liked the Love Bank did not love it. It
Speaker 3: was very stupid and I just think I had to
Speaker 3: turn off the part of my brain or it was
Speaker 3: like a part of their movie because like nothing like
Speaker 3: the part of their always looks cool as fuck, but
Speaker 3: like that first one. It's Arnold, it's Carl Weather's, it's
Speaker 3: Jesse Ventura. You are not going to match that movie.
Speaker 3: So I think it's just unfair to even remotely expect
Speaker 3: it to be like the first one at all. So
Speaker 3: I just kind of went in like that, and it's
Speaker 3: extremely video gaming. It's just like boss fights where you
Speaker 3: have to like throw gadgets into weak points, Like you know,
Speaker 3: there's literally like big monsters that like open their mouths
Speaker 3: and he has to like throw a gadget in before
Speaker 3: he closes the mouth because that'll blow him up from
Speaker 3: the inside. There's just like an NPC that follows him
Speaker 3: around like a robot, and that's who Elle Fanning is.
Speaker 3: It's it's just boss fights and Alien plan It's very
Speaker 3: Halo campaign that that type of feel to it. So
Speaker 3: I thought it was fun. It was stupid, but it was.
Speaker 4: Like an action romp.
Speaker 5: But it doesn't have any substance and I don't think
Speaker 5: you're supposed to learn anything from it, and I certainly
Speaker 5: did not. I was kind of laughing at the premise
Speaker 5: of it, like it's supposed to be a really serious premise,
Speaker 5: am I allowed to say? Like the plots right, like
Speaker 5: the premise is that in this movie, the main predator
Speaker 5: because that's a race of people whatever they are, and
Speaker 5: they are killers and they're all about being the biggest killer.
Speaker 4: That's their whole thing. But the main character that we're
Speaker 4: following is the runt of his family.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and it's block or something.
Speaker 5: Yeah, sure, and his older brother is like trying to
Speaker 5: get him up to speed, but he's so little that
Speaker 5: his dad is like, I'm going to kill him because
Speaker 5: he's the weak link, and the brother is like, I
Speaker 5: will protect you. And that's kind of the crux of
Speaker 5: the whole movie is that, like he's like, I'm going
Speaker 5: to prove my dad that I'm not the runts. Yes,
Speaker 5: they're all predators, yea, they're all predators with internal.
Speaker 4: Family drama and.
Speaker 5: They have all these like you know, concerns and issues
Speaker 5: with each other.
Speaker 4: And this whole time, this the runt.
Speaker 5: So now he's like, I'm going to go prove to
Speaker 5: my dad that I'm actually a really good predator. He's
Speaker 5: like in this new area to take down this really
Speaker 5: big boss to prove that he's a good predator.
Speaker 4: He keeps making mistakes where I'm like, you know, he
Speaker 4: is kind of the weak, runt guy that should die.
Speaker 5: He tells his enemies his weaknesses, he gives unnecessary information
Speaker 5: to like he is like, I'm really upset with my dad,
Speaker 5: and it's like, no predator should be telling random people
Speaker 5: about their dad issues. And I was like, this guy
Speaker 5: is actually weak, he's actually not very good at being
Speaker 5: a predator. And maybe he's like a good character. And
Speaker 5: they tried to humanize him and they did that very good.
Speaker 5: But as far as the predator goes, that ain't any predator.
Speaker 5: I know a predator. I know rips out spines, and
Speaker 5: they do do this in this movie. But it's just
Speaker 5: not the way I wanted it. So I did not
Speaker 5: care for it, but I understand it. I was entertained
Speaker 5: by it, but I when the credits rolled, I was like,
Speaker 5: it kind of irked me as a as a predator movie.
Speaker 5: That guy was not a predator. That guy was a
Speaker 5: little whimpy boy who was trying.
Speaker 4: To prove himself.
Speaker 3: I didn't expect it to be like just predators. It's
Speaker 3: like all predators and then like el Fanning, basically she's
Speaker 3: a robot and then it's like so it starts out
Speaker 3: and it's the whole beginning sequence is pretty long, and
Speaker 3: it's just like him and is like the predator, the
Speaker 3: good runt predator and his brother.
Speaker 2: Like having like a trial by combat thing predator.
Speaker 5: They're trying to predator each other and they're like, I'm
Speaker 5: the bigger predator.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah, And they're like flying around caves like doing sword
Speaker 3: fights and shit like that, and it's just the way
Speaker 3: it's just NonStop, just like groupaba like talking and then
Speaker 3: like like there are a whole back and forth where's
Speaker 3: like the two predators are looking at each other and
Speaker 3: it's like at a certain point I turned the box.
Speaker 3: I was like, does it feel like there should be
Speaker 3: subtitles at this point? It's just like, yeah, this is weird.
Speaker 3: It's we're watching on a plex server and it's like
Speaker 3: I didn't have it selected, and I turn it on
Speaker 3: and I go back and it's like, oh, they're just
Speaker 3: explaining the plot.
Speaker 2: Okay, watching.
Speaker 4: This movie doesn't make any sense. Why are they constantly
Speaker 4: talking to each other. We can't understand what they're saying.
Speaker 4: And you're watching a French film?
Speaker 2: Yeah you know what you thinking about it?
Speaker 3: I have I never know if I've seen any movies
Speaker 3: with subtitles, and now I can say.
Speaker 2: I have Yeah, I'm proud of you. Yeah that progress.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I got the other ones.
Speaker 1: I think you probably you probably saw eight and a
Speaker 1: half a thousand blows, one hundred blows if you probably
Speaker 1: saw a lot of trufau movies back in the day.
Speaker 5: What about that movie that everybody uh talked about?
Speaker 3: I'm looking at most famous movies with subtitles.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Look, I didn't go to film school. Yes, what movie
Speaker 3: are you mary?
Speaker 4: Oh, Parasite, Parasite.
Speaker 2: I said it's great.
Speaker 3: I did see Parasite, Okay, I've seen seven Samurai, I
Speaker 3: saw Rachaman. Okay, So I guess I've seen some well
Speaker 3: I might a dubbed those. But Godzilla, yeah, I fell
Speaker 3: asleep in that, and I don't really count that for
Speaker 3: seeing it.
Speaker 4: I liked Godzilla.
Speaker 3: I heard it was good.
Speaker 1: Speaking of Wake Up Dad Man, I think that very
Speaker 1: well might have been my favorite movie at twenty twenty five.
Speaker 2: Really, yeah, number one for really, thanks Mike.
Speaker 1: I'm I'm trying to transition. I actually did think it
Speaker 1: was my favorite movie.
Speaker 4: I appreciate that.
Speaker 5: I think it would be fun to think of our
Speaker 5: favorite twenty twenty five movies because my coworkers did this
Speaker 5: and I heard a movie that I had never heard of,
Speaker 5: Like I was like, oh, why is this on everybody's list?
Speaker 4: I should watch it?
Speaker 5: And so I watched it, and now it's my favorite
Speaker 5: movie of twenty twenty five.
Speaker 2: What is it? What it is called?
Speaker 4: Train Dream?
Speaker 1: Yeah, the book's one of my favorite top five books
Speaker 1: of all time.
Speaker 4: It is gutting.
Speaker 5: I was walking my dog the other day and thought
Speaker 5: about it and started crying.
Speaker 2: Joel Edgerton, William H. Macy.
Speaker 1: But the so it's it's based on a novella, like literally,
Speaker 1: I think it's like one hundred and two pages about
Speaker 1: a guy who's like working on the railroad during the
Speaker 1: expansionist era of America and he's in the woods. He
Speaker 1: starts doing some lumber work, but generally speaking, some shit
Speaker 1: happens to him, and the book is just about how
Speaker 1: he's reacting to it.
Speaker 2: But yeah, it's gorgeous.
Speaker 5: It's like beautifully shot and it doesn't take itself too seriously.
Speaker 5: It's just beautiful, beautiful cinematic shots of a dude living
Speaker 5: his life.
Speaker 4: Nothing crazy happens. This is not like a wild film.
Speaker 5: I would think that most people possibly you Dan would
Speaker 5: say this movie is boring.
Speaker 4: And I cannot tell you how much this film moved me.
Speaker 4: I was, I was just blown away by it. It
Speaker 4: consumes me.
Speaker 5: I thought about it all night and all the next day,
Speaker 5: and I like can't stop thinking about it.
Speaker 3: I mean, if it's good, I'm fine with slow paced
Speaker 3: and like, you know, because I saw that so many
Speaker 3: people were complaining about Pluribus being such a slow burn,
Speaker 3: and it's like, I fucking loved that season of pluribis.
Speaker 3: So it's like, I can take a slow burn if
Speaker 3: I'm end of the story.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 5: I just thought it was phenomenal, Like what a cool
Speaker 5: snapshot of like an average dude's life back then, Like
Speaker 5: he's not dreams.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Train, it's a Netflix.
Speaker 1: Netflix like produced it, which is crazy crazy Netflix produces
Speaker 1: a lot. But yeah, that's definitely not the type of
Speaker 1: movie I would expect Netflix to produce.
Speaker 2: Sure, but no.
Speaker 1: The book, Dennis Johnson wrote, the book is incredible. Like
Speaker 1: you you if you both have like a weekend and
Speaker 1: want to read something. It's one hundred and two pages.
Speaker 1: You can get through it quickly. It's literally like an
Speaker 1: actual small book too.
Speaker 2: Uh.
Speaker 1: It won the Poetry that year, but which was kind
Speaker 1: of contentious because it was not like sweeping work of
Speaker 1: literature that was winning it in years previous.
Speaker 2: But it's really really good. Nice Yeah, Trained Dreams.
Speaker 3: So that's your number one, Mary.
Speaker 4: That's my number one.
Speaker 5: And I didn't expect it, and it just shocked me
Speaker 5: that it was just randomly on a couple of my
Speaker 5: peers lists, and I was like, I guess I should
Speaker 5: see it, and I was like, holy shit. It's kind
Speaker 5: of like one of those things where like if enough
Speaker 5: people say to you you have to see this film,
Speaker 5: you're gonna watch it because everybody's talking about it. But
Speaker 5: it was just in like five of my peers top tens.
Speaker 5: So that is on my Yes, it is my I
Speaker 5: think it is my favorite movie. I would absolutely put
Speaker 5: it in my top five, and so I was just
Speaker 5: curious what you guys think. It doesn't have to be listical,
Speaker 5: but what you think would definitely make your top five.
Speaker 3: I put mine here and I'm not going to count
Speaker 3: Naked Gun because I've already talked about that a ton
Speaker 3: and I did watch it six times this year, Naked Gun,
Speaker 3: So like, I feel like my recommendation for Naked Gun
Speaker 3: is firmly established at this point. Yes, we know the
Speaker 3: five that I thought of here, and none of these
Speaker 3: are like it's super deep cut. I think everyone loved
Speaker 3: these centers. Weapons. I thought Bogonia was fucking awesome one
Speaker 3: battle after another, and warfare warfare was and what I
Speaker 3: talked about before about that Iraq mission. Yeah, yeah, those right,
Speaker 3: I loved all five of those.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm I don't I haven't ranked them, but I
Speaker 1: would say I'm Wake Up dead Man, Sinners, one battle
Speaker 1: after another.
Speaker 2: Weapons. I don't know what my fifth would be. I'm
Speaker 2: not sure.
Speaker 1: I need to look up look at the list, but yeah,
Speaker 1: Sinners was fucking awesome. Yeah I loved weapons like saw
Speaker 1: weapons twice.
Speaker 2: But yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 1: For those who are on the fence about watching Wake
Speaker 1: Up dead Man, I had watched it and I told
Speaker 1: you guys about it, and then I went back to
Speaker 1: watch Knives Out and glass Onion and I made the
Speaker 1: joke about I made the joke. But like that many
Speaker 1: people have made about Ryan Johnson, it just about like
Speaker 1: his his movies sometimes like he's obviously like pretty left
Speaker 1: leaning in his movies, often with his characters often are
Speaker 1: the good characters.
Speaker 2: Quote unquote.
Speaker 1: I think I like Wake Up dead Man because whereas
Speaker 1: glass Onion especially felt like it was just very on
Speaker 1: the nose every step of the way, with like billionaires
Speaker 1: are stupid and bad, It's like, yes, we get it,
Speaker 1: like I get it. It felt like the whole movie
Speaker 1: for me. And I'm being reductive obviously, but Wake Up
Speaker 1: dead Man hit me very hard. I will definitely say
Speaker 1: I don't expect it to hit everybody the same way,
Speaker 1: because on one level, it's a very good who done it.
Speaker 1: I think in a small town at a small town
Speaker 1: church and its community in central New York, but having
Speaker 1: grown up Catholic and now being an atheist, like being
Speaker 1: laps Catholic for much of my life, I this movie
Speaker 1: hit me in a way I did not expect where
Speaker 1: Ben wi Blanc, Daniel Craig's chacter goes into it as
Speaker 1: an atheist who was born in the South to hardcore
Speaker 1: religious parents, and he's gay, so he's got reasons to
Speaker 1: be very anti religious. Josh O'Connor as Fathered Judd. Holy shit,
Speaker 1: do you guys know Josh O'Connors. He was in Challengers,
Speaker 1: the tennis movie he was in. I think he's in
Speaker 1: the Crown at some point him as Father Judd was
Speaker 1: one of my favorite characters this year outside of Michael B.
Speaker 1: Jordan as the two brothers. Holy shit, it's really I
Speaker 1: think a lot of people, like a lot of like
Speaker 1: right wing circles are looking to be like, oh, it's
Speaker 1: super anti religious. Like if you watch the movie, they
Speaker 1: actually have like really good back and forth and question
Speaker 1: what faith is and what belief is in the modern era.
Speaker 1: There's a character who's basically trying to fire up a
Speaker 1: YouTube channel about this priest to his very fire In Brimstone,
Speaker 1: it's still very on the nose about today's general sphere,
Speaker 1: but it's not as obvious because it's all condensed in
Speaker 1: this small town Lens. Thomas Hayden Church is in it.
Speaker 1: What's her name? Glenn Close is fucking unreal and she
Speaker 1: plays his character Martha Jeremy Renner. It's stacked the word
Speaker 1: Josh bur Josh Brolin's amazing, He's hilarious. It's about these
Speaker 1: two priests who go head to head over like control
Speaker 1: this church. Then Ben wi Blanc comes in when there's
Speaker 1: a murder, and the entire movie is just kind of
Speaker 1: going back and forth about what faith and religion means
Speaker 1: to this small town, what it meant to each priest individually,
Speaker 1: how it affected Ben wa Blanc. But it's also really
Speaker 1: fucking funny and lighthearted at points. I will say there's
Speaker 1: one major miscast that the Internet has pointed out that
Speaker 1: I tend to agree with, and really, I don't want.
Speaker 5: Exactly who you're gonna say, I know it is. It's
Speaker 5: me Lacunis. Yeah, that's the fucking cop because she's a
Speaker 5: shit actress.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I will say.
Speaker 5: Literally, when this movie was happening, I was like, what
Speaker 5: a weird way to deliver.
Speaker 4: That line, and I just thought it go. Yeah.
Speaker 2: I didn't think I saw Sorry. I thought we talked.
Speaker 5: About it last episode, and I was like, listening to
Speaker 5: you talk about it most of the time. I think
Speaker 5: you're passionate, like comes through when you want to talk
Speaker 5: about this.
Speaker 4: I think it's a good movie. I don't feel as
Speaker 4: strongly as you do about.
Speaker 2: It, for sure. I don't expect it to everybody, but
Speaker 2: I neilaus Is.
Speaker 4: Like she's not good. No, if she's ever been good.
Speaker 2: I liked her in some things, like I liked.
Speaker 4: Her as a result of this.
Speaker 1: I don't think the role itself was doing her any favorites.
Speaker 2: Very weird cast, Yeah, I don't.
Speaker 1: I think it was a that cast was weird for her,
Speaker 1: but I think everything else worked. A lot of people
Speaker 1: were thrown off that these huge stars were just these
Speaker 1: like people of interest in the case. And like, I
Speaker 1: think it works because in any other movie, if you
Speaker 1: had one star as a suspect, you'd know you'd be
Speaker 1: kind of leaning toward them for the as the culprit.
Speaker 1: But I think it worked here that many of them
Speaker 1: were just on the same playing field.
Speaker 2: So to speak. But yeah, I like that movie quite
Speaker 2: a bit. But Centers is awesome.
Speaker 3: I want to come around on Mela Kunis American Psycho too,
Speaker 3: where she plays the American psycho.
Speaker 4: I don't know if that's gonna win me over.
Speaker 3: It's incredible, Like, it's absolutely terrible, but it's worth watching.
Speaker 4: I don't understand what you mean.
Speaker 3: I mean, it's I'm just so happy I watched it
Speaker 3: because it's one of the worst fucking things I've ever
Speaker 3: and like a lot of people don't even know they
Speaker 3: made an American American psycho to all American girls starring.
Speaker 2: Interesting, she's just a murder various reasons. Does she kill people.
Speaker 3: Yes, she's an American psycho. Ooh, William Shatner's also what
Speaker 3: the fuck?
Speaker 2: It's a really fucking weird movie. Yes, but yeah, one
Speaker 2: battle after another also phenomenal.
Speaker 4: That one's really good for me.
Speaker 5: One that I think i'd put on my list is
Speaker 5: twenty eight Years Later, which is like a very odd film,
Speaker 5: but I liked it, and I like that it did
Speaker 5: some pretty weird risks, and yeah, walked away being like
Speaker 5: I liked it even though it was weird.
Speaker 3: I'm moderately curious about seeing the sequel that's coming out soon.
Speaker 3: I might wait for streaming for that one. But I
Speaker 3: didn't join. That was the first the twenty eight whatever
Speaker 3: so that I saw, and yeah, I liked it.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and you got to put at least one horror
Speaker 4: on there for me.
Speaker 2: Did did you? Not? Was Weapons not on yours?
Speaker 4: Weapons is on mine as well?
Speaker 3: Yes, only not a horror person at all, But like Weapons,
Speaker 3: I was just enamored by one.
Speaker 2: Of the best endings to any movie this year. I
Speaker 2: think Weapons.
Speaker 3: Its fantastic. Oh God, I was cracking out.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it was like every emotion possible in one sequence.
Speaker 1: It was crazy, it was cathartic, it was terrifying. It
Speaker 1: was hilarious and.
Speaker 4: A scene that really makes you want a hot dog.
Speaker 5: I mean, there are these two guys getting ready to
Speaker 5: watch TV and they have hot dog trays ready to
Speaker 5: go with and I was like, I gotta get a
Speaker 5: hot dog. I've never had a hot dog be sold
Speaker 5: to me like that.
Speaker 2: Fella Daddy says, I got to get my dog on.
Speaker 4: I loved it. He's like dancing as he's walking.
Speaker 6: To the.
Speaker 2: Noises with the hot dog.
Speaker 4: That's me.
Speaker 5: That is like, that is the life I have asked
Speaker 5: for for myself.
Speaker 2: They did not come out this year.
Speaker 1: I will say I showed Amanda in Bruges and Banshees
Speaker 1: of in a sheer in for the first time.
Speaker 2: Did you see both? I would say in Bruges many
Speaker 2: the jokes it's the same.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's so Martin McDonough who he also directed Three
Speaker 1: Billboards Outside of Evan, Missouri, which is way more contentious.
Speaker 3: I remember liking that.
Speaker 2: I liked it too.
Speaker 1: I'm sure there will be people jumping into the comments
Speaker 1: to tell me I'm wrong for liking that movie on
Speaker 1: any level.
Speaker 3: But I thought Franks McDormand was awesome in that she.
Speaker 2: Was awesome Yeah.
Speaker 1: A lot of people criticized uh Martin McDonough for trying
Speaker 1: to tackle that subject matter. But in Bruges and ban
Speaker 1: She's have been a Sharon. Both are Brendan Glees and
Speaker 1: Colin Farrell just having this like buddy movie with many
Speaker 1: layers beneath the surface. In Bruges, many of the jokes
Speaker 1: have not aged well whatsoever. It's still I think a
Speaker 1: really good movie. She's a Sharon is still a fucking masterpiece.
Speaker 1: I do not ever use that word. I will will
Speaker 1: probably say it for like two pta movies. I would
Speaker 1: say that.
Speaker 3: For Uh there will be blood.
Speaker 1: I like there will be blood quite a bit. I
Speaker 1: would say that's one of them, along with like Boogie Nights.
Speaker 1: Probably I like a lot of his movies, but those
Speaker 1: two are just genuine masterpieces.
Speaker 3: Where do you land on Magnolia?
Speaker 2: I like Magnolia. I know I hate it. Yeah, no, yeah,
Speaker 2: I get it.
Speaker 1: Any that's like my I'm a I'm definitely a weirdo
Speaker 1: for really liking that movie.
Speaker 4: I liked Magnolia. I think I can't. I don't know
Speaker 4: if it would pass the test of time. It's been like.
Speaker 3: Ten years, yeah, bank and I just know it's been
Speaker 3: way longer than that, like twenty five years.
Speaker 4: Come on, it's been like ten years.
Speaker 3: It's been twenty five years.
Speaker 2: I'm still not used to being on college life is
Speaker 2: so weird.
Speaker 3: I mean, there will be Blood was like eighteen years ago.
Speaker 4: Twenties it's hard.
Speaker 2: Yeah, there will be blood was on nine.
Speaker 4: What are we gonna do with our lives? Guys?
Speaker 2: I love Fantom Thread in The Master as well.
Speaker 3: The Masters was a waiter, so I need to see
Speaker 3: I haven't seen either of those. There's the Pta ones.
Speaker 3: I haven't seen it.
Speaker 2: I didn't. I didn't want to see.
Speaker 3: Fanom Thread because it's about like fashion or ever, and
Speaker 3: that sounds super boring.
Speaker 2: But I've heard it's so good.
Speaker 1: It's about fashion in the way that one battle after
Speaker 1: another is about a rebel group.
Speaker 2: Now that sounds cooler.
Speaker 1: It's about fashion in the way that I'm trying to
Speaker 1: think of movies you've watched recently that Naked Guns. That
Speaker 1: Naked Gun is about the actual case.
Speaker 2: Okay, it's just it's just an air. But I still
Speaker 2: don't think you're gonna like Phantom time for what.
Speaker 3: I love Daniel day Lewis. I think The Master is
Speaker 3: first on my list. Of pta stuff. Oh, first time
Speaker 3: to see I haven't changed, Josha.
Speaker 1: That is, honestly, I think one of my top five
Speaker 1: movies of all time.
Speaker 2: I love The Master Past.
Speaker 1: It's UH that came out when I was that game former.
Speaker 1: I remember you all a bunch of like Ben Hansen.
Speaker 1: I think Tim Terry came into the office the day
Speaker 1: after seeing it and we're talking about it, and it
Speaker 1: was very I think people are split on it, but
Speaker 1: I think these days people are looking back on it
Speaker 1: with UH with in better Lightjaqen Phoenix. Obviously, people talk
Speaker 1: about Phillip Seymour Hoffman's performance and it's you know, he
Speaker 1: rightfully gets his flowers, but oh my god, I think
Speaker 1: people forget how unreal Joaquin Phoenix was in it as well.
Speaker 1: Amy Adams is really good, but Joaquin just fucking like
Speaker 1: becomes a different person. To be cliched about it.
Speaker 3: I think those might be the only way he did.
Speaker 3: Was it inherent vice?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 3: I didn't see that either, So maybe there's a few
Speaker 3: of his that I have seen. Liquors Pizza I didn't see,
Speaker 3: so a lot of the more recent ones I haven't seen.
Speaker 1: And hair Advice was after The Master but before phantom thread.
Speaker 1: I believe okay or no, no, no, I'm yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: I believe that's the case. And hair advice is tough.
Speaker 3: I will say I think I got when I was
Speaker 3: reading all those books when I lived in New York
Speaker 3: and you were constantly recommending books to me, which is fun.
Speaker 3: I like that a lot. I think I just started
Speaker 3: in hair advice not knowing anything about it, and I
Speaker 3: was like, this is a lot.
Speaker 2: I don't know about this.
Speaker 1: I did not bar in it any Thomas Pinsion book.
Speaker 1: That's probably the correct response. I like his stuff, but
Speaker 1: I will be the first to admit I don't. And
Speaker 1: he knows what he's doing half the time, and people
Speaker 1: glaze him for it. His books are his books are odd?
Speaker 3: Yeah, I did not do it.
Speaker 2: I like crying of Flat forty nine.
Speaker 5: You have more substance in twenty twenty six. I don't
Speaker 5: want the things that I watch to be so vague
Speaker 5: that everyone.
Speaker 4: Leaves and goes, what was that about? That's brilliant. I
Speaker 4: want to be like, tell me what to think. I
Speaker 4: want to know how to feel.
Speaker 5: I don't want it to be like sotose that I'm
Speaker 5: like supposed to solve this riddle all the time.
Speaker 2: Is this are you venting about a specific movie?
Speaker 4: I'm venting very vaguely.
Speaker 2: About symbolism and metaphor.
Speaker 4: Symbolism, symbolism, symbolism.
Speaker 5: The TV show Severance, which is like too vague answered
Speaker 5: any questions, and I am over it.
Speaker 4: What's going on? I've what's up with the goats?
Speaker 2: I don't interesting.
Speaker 5: I don't want to play this game anymore. You know
Speaker 5: what's coming out in twenty twenty six that will answer
Speaker 5: all the questions.
Speaker 2: Season three of seven's Terrifier for Oh, I love the
Speaker 2: story that you told me Dan, where someone had it on.
Speaker 2: I want to say something. I know who it was.
Speaker 2: You know it was at their party. It is such
Speaker 2: an over the top horror movie to have playing in
Speaker 2: the middle of a social scene. When he's just sawing
Speaker 2: someone through there, I think.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think I hadn't. I think he might not
Speaker 3: have seen it or somebody. I've talked to him about
Speaker 3: it and he was like, yeah, I don't know it
Speaker 3: was gonna be that much.
Speaker 1: That's a that's like an I think you should leave
Speaker 1: sketch like he puts on a movie, and then he
Speaker 1: has to try to act like he had seen it
Speaker 1: before he's like, oh, it's funny.
Speaker 3: Last I think it was when Ben Hansen's like then
Speaker 3: eighteen month old son was there to dressed as Batman
Speaker 3: and just Terrifier.
Speaker 2: Something I think I want to say.
Speaker 3: We were posing for a photo, like a friend photo,
Speaker 3: and I kept looking like, what.
Speaker 2: The is that? That's fucking that's amazing. Yeah, Terrifier is
Speaker 2: fucked up. I think I have learned this year that
Speaker 2: like horror.
Speaker 3: I used to say that I was not a horror
Speaker 3: guy at all, and I think I'm gonna review that
Speaker 3: thought because it's like, I don't think I'm a big
Speaker 3: slasher movie guy. I love like the Shining, I loved Weapons.
Speaker 3: This year I read that I finished that short story
Speaker 3: a book or a collection that Stephen King put out
Speaker 3: at Night Shift, and I fucking love that. So I
Speaker 3: think just really clever horror. I think I really like.
Speaker 3: I think it's just.
Speaker 4: So much really clever horror. You just have to find it.
Speaker 4: I like the trash to quite but personally I like it.
Speaker 2: But the dan is you're gonna hate this. They have
Speaker 2: a phrase for the kind of movies you're just describing,
Speaker 2: elevated horror.
Speaker 3: It sounds like that sounds like when you called Chipotle
Speaker 3: fast casual.
Speaker 6: Yeah, you like the fast casual horror movies, horror, thinking
Speaker 6: out about Halloween and Friday thirteen still, and Dan's like,
Speaker 6: I only watch things that make me think while I'm afraid.
Speaker 3: Now allween kicks ass Is is John Carpenter, and that's
Speaker 3: a that's a fantastic director. It's but also don't know
Speaker 3: what then I'm talking about, because I've never seen a
Speaker 3: Fright of the thirteenth, I've never seen a Jason Jason Next.
Speaker 3: But it's like, I think a lot of these huge things.
Speaker 2: What that's just a funny one Jason movie to have
Speaker 2: seen the Space.
Speaker 3: And that sounded funny. So wait, maybe all the horror
Speaker 3: I've actually seen, I like, you're.
Speaker 2: Just not a horror fan though, even though you like
Speaker 2: every movie you've seen.
Speaker 5: Maybe you should try more. There's a lot of good ones,
Speaker 5: even the ones that are like, okay, are I think good?
Speaker 4: It's like you have to get past it all.
Speaker 3: I sorted by genre on letterbox right now, and horror.
Speaker 3: I've got all these ones that I rated like four
Speaker 3: and a half five, Aliens, Weapons Centers, Barbarian, the Sustans,
Speaker 3: the Thing. Yeah, holyh Near Dark Horizon. I probably like
Speaker 3: get Out, Get Outs fantastic. I love No Menu.
Speaker 2: What's that did you see? Nope?
Speaker 3: I didn't love No No No. I give it three
Speaker 3: service and looking Man.
Speaker 4: Make him think enough?
Speaker 3: Uh Blair Jennifer's Body.
Speaker 2: Wait. I like a lot of horror movies.
Speaker 5: This Body is a really good example of like, uh,
Speaker 5: not that it's bad, it's it's it's a good movie,
Speaker 5: but it's kind of like simple and stupid, but it's
Speaker 5: it's so fun.
Speaker 4: It's camp.
Speaker 3: Yes, I put that kind of the same categories like Slither.
Speaker 3: Did you ever see that James Gun horror movie?
Speaker 2: But you guys reed that to me last year and
Speaker 2: I watched it. Yeah, it's bither is great.
Speaker 4: It's so it's got everything you need.
Speaker 5: It's got zombies, it's got aliens, it's got weird creepy stuff.
Speaker 4: It's got love story, it's got oh, it's got like
Speaker 4: gross visual horror. It's got everything you need.
Speaker 2: I think pregnant lad.
Speaker 1: I think that's why I like Barbarian and Weapons specifically
Speaker 1: because I feel is it Zach Crowder that the director
Speaker 1: of my freaking up his name? I feel like he
Speaker 1: can do that elevated horror quote unquote, but he's also
Speaker 1: not a shame to be making horror movies, like he's
Speaker 1: still having fun with the genre, like he's doing genre
Speaker 1: fiction with horror, but he is also layering it quite
Speaker 1: a bit in a way that I think the fact
Speaker 1: that he can speak to both audiences is really really impressive.
Speaker 3: I think it's I think that there's a lot of
Speaker 3: horror movies look stupid, like like what's.
Speaker 2: Like like.
Speaker 3: The Black Black Phone or whatever.
Speaker 4: I'm actually not sure.
Speaker 1: Look at the image she sent in our in our chat,
Speaker 1: she's talking about Terrifier for and I saw this.
Speaker 2: I was like, there's no.
Speaker 5: Way this okay, I'm sending I sent them a image
Speaker 5: of Terrifier for and it's Terrifier in Space, which reminded
Speaker 5: me of what you said with Jason X in Space,
Speaker 5: I think, but I'm not sure because Terrifier subverts her
Speaker 5: expectations a lot. That's like a huge part of his character,
Speaker 5: so they might be fucking with me.
Speaker 4: I'm not sure.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think some of them look really schlocky and dumb,
Speaker 3: like I think of that, like was that Ethan Hawk,
Speaker 3: like the Black Phone or something like that. These things
Speaker 3: a lot of them just look stupid. Maybe I'm just
Speaker 3: judging by the trailer, but.
Speaker 4: Did you watch Meghan?
Speaker 2: I like Megan fe is like stupid.
Speaker 4: Meghan is stupid.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and you're like kind of like it.
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's I think there's a lot of those. Maybe
Speaker 5: I should give you some more like that are not
Speaker 5: traditional that I still think are worth seeing, even if
Speaker 5: they're like kind of bad.
Speaker 3: But I like anyway, you told me about Barbarian and
Speaker 3: I adore.
Speaker 5: I know, but it's hard to it's hard to hit
Speaker 5: that bar Like, have you seen a lot of the
Speaker 5: classics from our childhood? So like sounds like you've seen Scream,
Speaker 5: but like, I know what you did. I know what
Speaker 5: you did last summer, the original.
Speaker 3: I would see parts of it on TV, never seen
Speaker 3: the whole thing.
Speaker 4: No, it's pretty good.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I guess I like with.
Speaker 3: Action movies, I think, but part of what I like
Speaker 3: is I like watching people die in hilarious ways. And
Speaker 3: that sounds like what a lot of horror movies are.
Speaker 3: It's just like hilarious desks.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think a lot of Yeah, I would say
Speaker 1: a big one that came out in the last few
Speaker 1: years messes with that trope. Right at the very end,
Speaker 1: which is what made it, in part a great movie.
Speaker 1: I I spoil which one, but that could have been
Speaker 1: any of them the last five ten years.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, no, I love old school schlocky slasher stuff.
Speaker 2: But I'm also I've said it before. Nope.
Speaker 1: I finished it, and that night I was like, I
Speaker 1: couldn't stand that movie. And then like the next morning
Speaker 1: I woke up and was still thinking deeply about it,
Speaker 1: Like that movie really affected me.
Speaker 2: In a way that has not. It is it is
Speaker 2: a very interesting movie.
Speaker 5: We should talk about those types of movies where like
Speaker 5: maybe at first you're like I didn't like it, and
Speaker 5: then the next day you're like, I liked it. That
Speaker 5: happened to me recently. I can think of one which
Speaker 5: was called I Saw the TV Glow.
Speaker 3: Oh I heard about that, yeah.
Speaker 5: Because it's a horror or horror scary, right, And then
Speaker 5: I was like, it's not scary enough, it's not doing
Speaker 5: what I want.
Speaker 4: I don't like it.
Speaker 5: And then I thought of it for about twenty four
Speaker 5: hours and then I was like, I love it.
Speaker 3: But I don't know if I've ever gone from disliking
Speaker 3: to like it wasn't what I wanted.
Speaker 2: I've definitely gone.
Speaker 3: From appreciating more because I remember when like Bonk and
Speaker 3: I left Annihilation, I think I was like, oh, it's
Speaker 3: like a four out of five movie, and then I
Speaker 3: saw it again, I was like, that is a five
Speaker 3: out of five. Holy shit, and I loved it so
Speaker 3: much more. So, like I've gone from like a four
Speaker 3: to a five. I don't know if I've ever gone
Speaker 3: from like a two to a four or five.
Speaker 5: Oh, that's happened to me so many times. I didn't
Speaker 5: like Sean of the Dead the.
Speaker 4: First time I watched it, and that's a fun one.
Speaker 4: I didn't like.
Speaker 5: It because I wanted to see a traditional zombie movie
Speaker 5: and they kept making it funny and I was like,
Speaker 5: you guys aren't taking me seriously enough. People are dying.
Speaker 5: And then it took me like an evening to get
Speaker 5: over myself and realize it was. It was brilliant, but
Speaker 5: I didn't process it at first because I thought it
Speaker 5: was supposed to be scary.
Speaker 3: I actually now that I think. But I definitely have
Speaker 3: gone from like a I think this is the worst
Speaker 3: movie I've ever seen.
Speaker 2: Too.
Speaker 3: I love this movie, and that's a net and I
Speaker 3: can't remember i've told so many people about this movie.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah, I can.
Speaker 3: Have you seen it, either of you? Okay, Mary, of
Speaker 3: you and the move stop typing? Stop typing?
Speaker 1: Do you recommend it because of you? Okay, don't don't.
Speaker 1: Don't look at anything more. Don't look at anymore? Okay, Okay, Adam.
Speaker 2: Driver Okay, I'm gonna okay, and Marion co.
Speaker 3: Tealyard Okay, our friends laugh.
Speaker 2: You didn't expect me to pronounce it so barfing.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Mary, I would love to give you a homework assignment,
Speaker 3: you know, as you did with me with Barbarians. The
Speaker 3: faces like, oh great, it's on Amazon.
Speaker 2: You got the Amazon. Okay, what am I talking about?
Speaker 2: You've got the Amazon Amazon? Okay?
Speaker 3: My dad, Mary sight unseen and I mean you've looked
Speaker 3: at like the poster, right, you.
Speaker 4: Know, no cheating, Just just go watch it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I can do that.
Speaker 3: And you do you not know anything about this? Oh Mary,
Speaker 3: I'm so excited to hear your thoughts on this. I've
Speaker 3: made so many people watch this movie. I've seen it
Speaker 3: like six times in the last few years.
Speaker 2: Kayla loves it.
Speaker 3: My dad, I don't know if I've ever seen him
Speaker 3: more mad than when he was watching it.
Speaker 2: I can't imagine Paul ever even sitting through this whole thing.
Speaker 5: Paul and I are pretty similar, so I am I
Speaker 5: expecting to hate it.
Speaker 3: We had to pay him two hundred dollars to watch it.
Speaker 3: But I'm not kidding, Oh Mary, okay, okay, and anyone
Speaker 3: at home, I know I've talked about this on various
Speaker 3: podcasts and things like that, and watched it on the
Speaker 3: internet before check out a net on Amazon Prime Video
Speaker 3: and don't look up anything, and let's talk about it
Speaker 3: next time, okay, okay.
Speaker 2: Yeah, And that was quite a ride. But yeah, it
Speaker 2: was a good year for movies.
Speaker 1: I'd say, yes, yeah, I've flirted with the idea of
Speaker 1: like I watched the documentary about Movie Pass and it
Speaker 1: really brought me back to that time where it's like, man,
Speaker 1: we lived in New York City, we walked to this theater.
Speaker 3: We would just like see all these movies we would
Speaker 3: never consider paying for a ticket to go see. And
Speaker 3: I was like looking up, like oh, they came back
Speaker 3: kind of, but it's like confusing how it works. And
Speaker 3: then like AMC's got the A list thing and it's like, well,
Speaker 3: we see two movies in the theaters a month then
Speaker 3: it's worth it. But it's like we're not guaranteed to
Speaker 3: do that, so I don't know. It's just I do
Speaker 3: pine for the days of Movie Past. That was a
Speaker 3: good time.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I was in San Francisco all that was happening.
Speaker 2: I used to it quite a bit. Also, speaking of
Speaker 2: Robert Redford, he owned Sundance Theater, the Chant, and then
Speaker 2: there's several locations.
Speaker 1: There was one right in Japan, Towan, near my apartment.
Speaker 1: Every single Sunday I went. That is where I saw
Speaker 1: Annihilation for the first time in twenty fifteen. I believe
Speaker 1: nice that summer or something like that.
Speaker 3: No, no, no, no, I was living in New York. I
Speaker 3: know that it was at least seventeen.
Speaker 1: Oh interesting, Okay, yeah, I think i'd remember. It's like
Speaker 1: my second favorite movie of all time.
Speaker 3: I'd say it's seventeen or eighteen. Yeah, but I think
Speaker 3: that might have been during the movie.
Speaker 2: Eighteen sounds right, Yeah, something like that. Yeah, we sat
Speaker 2: with Movie Past. Also fifteen, I just moved out. There
Speaker 2: wouldn't make sense.
Speaker 3: Twenty eighteen. Yep, okay, yep, yep. I still got to.
Speaker 2: Read those books. Oh yeah, you were asking me about that. Recently.
Speaker 3: I intend to read the book. I'm working on the
Speaker 3: Lauren Mike Shark right now, but then I'll move on
Speaker 3: to that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, the Southern Reach trilogy. They're all digestible, fairly short,
Speaker 1: very very different than the movie, but still similar. Idea
Speaker 1: that a group of people go into this weird anomaly
Speaker 1: and weird shit happens.
Speaker 2: Nice. All right, you want to talk about video games? Sure? Yeah,
Speaker 2: all right, and we're back Dan.
Speaker 1: Why do you have Star Wars Jedi Survivor on your
Speaker 1: list you're playing?
Speaker 2: Did you read you.
Speaker 3: Not say you were playing it, or did you not
Speaker 3: bring it up last time.
Speaker 2: I brought it up.
Speaker 1: I brought it up many times, saying I love that game.
Speaker 1: I think people should give it more of a chance
Speaker 1: and see later in the game what happens throughout.
Speaker 2: But I didn't feel like.
Speaker 3: In my head, the reason I started playing it was
Speaker 3: because I thought, in like the same week that both
Speaker 3: Jeff Grubb and you had been talking about playing it.
Speaker 2: You mentioned that he was playing it, and I said,
Speaker 2: I love that game. I wish more people would give
Speaker 2: more chance because the PC launch had a lot of
Speaker 2: issues the beginning, and you guys have brought up valid
Speaker 2: issues with the beginning of the game, which I get,
Speaker 2: but like later on that game becomes awesome.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm a few hours in now, and like the beginning,
Speaker 3: it's like, sure, it does the thing I don't like
Speaker 3: where it's like, Okay, we're just going to do this
Speaker 3: thing where it's like you kind of have control of
Speaker 3: this guy while he's walking handcuff through the thing and
Speaker 3: we're throwing a bunch of story at you, and I
Speaker 3: was just very bored. But like you get past that
Speaker 3: and very quickly it's like, Mike, I believe it might
Speaker 3: have been you telling me that, Like the locomotion in
Speaker 3: that game, the the platforming, the wall running, the double
Speaker 3: jumping and all that stuff is pretty wild. It is
Speaker 3: not a like grounded in reality, you know, some sort
Speaker 3: of like Last of Us tomb Raider type third person
Speaker 3: action game.
Speaker 2: It is. It is.
Speaker 3: It's fun controlling this character and like jumping in the air,
Speaker 3: like flying through the air after a zip line and
Speaker 3: like hitting lb like the like you know, blaster shots
Speaker 3: and everything with your lightsaber in midair and then going
Speaker 3: down there and like for I am a sucker for
Speaker 3: either throwing or force pushing characters off of ledges. And games,
Speaker 3: and my god, I can't tell you how many times
Speaker 3: they just have a stormtrooper near a ledge and I
Speaker 3: get to go up and just like fuck you just
Speaker 3: send them off into a city below.
Speaker 2: It is.
Speaker 3: It's just super fun. It's just a very fun game
Speaker 3: to play. There is I you know, just being a
Speaker 3: few hours in, I don't have a great sense of
Speaker 3: like how good the upgrade tree is going to be.
Speaker 3: Like there's kind of a lot. It's like every time
Speaker 3: I go there, it's like you can be a billion
Speaker 3: different lightsaber things for all your different stances, and you
Speaker 3: can do you know, like your survival stuff. You can
Speaker 3: do the force upgrades and stuff like that. So it's
Speaker 3: kind of a lot on that front. But I am
Speaker 3: liking it as kind of like a light Fron type game,
Speaker 3: you know what I mean. It's just like it's got
Speaker 3: the hallmarks of that. It's got the meditation spots instead
Speaker 3: of the bonfire, and the responding enemies and the leveling
Speaker 3: up and all that stuff. But it's definitely not like
Speaker 3: a game I'm playing to super challenge myself. I'm just
Speaker 3: playing on the default difficulty. It's just a fun Star
Speaker 3: Wars that's like the production value is insane on that
Speaker 3: I'm playing on a forty ninety and it's just like,
Speaker 3: God damn it. Everything looks and sounds.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I love It can get overwhelming with the different
Speaker 1: lightsaber stances and the different upgrades to each one. But
Speaker 1: I also appreciate that they continue throughout the entirety of
Speaker 1: the game to put I think I'm exaggerating if I
Speaker 1: say they put as much emphasis on the platforming and
Speaker 1: exploration as the fighting, But they put a lot of
Speaker 1: emphasis on the platforming, the exploration, the puzzle solving. There's
Speaker 1: some areas that feel Zelda esque in their environmental puzzle
Speaker 1: solving and whatnot.
Speaker 2: And there's all.
Speaker 1: Those meditation grounds or Jedi temples or something that feel
Speaker 1: almost like shrines in and of themselves.
Speaker 3: That's interesting. I haven't seen that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, how far are you?
Speaker 3: I'm just like I did the whole opening thing on
Speaker 3: Coruscant and now I'm in like a kind of outdoor daytime. Okay, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 3: mountainous yeah yeah.
Speaker 2: Okay, yeah.
Speaker 1: I will say the structure of the game is not
Speaker 1: its strong point. Because can I for you a word
Speaker 1: of advice that I think would enhance your enjoyment of it?
Speaker 3: Please?
Speaker 2: I got. I got to that big planet.
Speaker 1: There's one planet that's way bigger than the rest, and
Speaker 1: I didn't want to leave it until I did everything.
Speaker 1: I would strongly encourage you to leave it as soon
Speaker 1: as you can and come back at your own pace.
Speaker 1: You unlock way more impactful upgrades and evolutions by leaving
Speaker 1: and then coming back and mopping up. But you can
Speaker 1: spend a good like twenty hours on I don't know
Speaker 1: the exact hour count, but I think I spent a
Speaker 1: good fifteen to twenty hours on that planet alone. I
Speaker 1: wish I had left sooner, because you start to see
Speaker 1: the game the speed of meaningful upgrades and character changes
Speaker 1: much more rapidly if you leave.
Speaker 3: Okay, awesome, Yeah yeah, then I do intend on continuing
Speaker 3: with this. I am really enjoying it. And actually I
Speaker 3: was just reminded I mentioned like from games, I think
Speaker 3: I want to play SEC euro Ooh.
Speaker 2: Have you tried it at all before?
Speaker 3: I think I played like ten hours of it or so.
Speaker 3: I just got my ass kicked and I really fell
Speaker 3: off because it's like and other from games, because like
Speaker 3: I've never taken the time to get really good at
Speaker 3: like perrying and stuff like that.
Speaker 4: So I would have to parry. And that's the thing.
Speaker 2: You can't.
Speaker 3: You can't just you know, cheese it by like leveling
Speaker 3: up and grinding and grinding like okay, well now my
Speaker 3: HP is insane, so I'm not gonna die or like,
Speaker 3: so you have to get good. And so I actually
Speaker 3: I played through Mike Tyson's punch Out a couple times
Speaker 3: this weekend, and in playing that and remembering how satisfying
Speaker 3: it was to kind of learn like just the enemy
Speaker 3: patterns and just the very specific timing, it's like, well
Speaker 3: that's kind of what Sekero is supposed to be. So
Speaker 3: and I am really good at it and punch Out,
Speaker 3: So like I think there is I think I get.
Speaker 4: Good at punch Out.
Speaker 2: I'm very good at punch Out.
Speaker 4: I think I can handle Secera.
Speaker 3: That's the thing I I it's a crazy it's it's
Speaker 3: always intimidated me. Like that game and and and even
Speaker 3: playing from games in general has intimidated me because I've
Speaker 3: only beat two and those were both by like super
Speaker 3: over leveling myself. So like there is a world where
Speaker 3: it's like I kind of want to just like on
Speaker 3: my twitch just maybe like every week like have like
Speaker 3: a Secura day where it's I'm gonna play a couple hours
Speaker 3: of Securo and try to beat this game.
Speaker 1: So what's the other one besides elden Ring. You've been Bloodborne?
Speaker 2: Oh? Interesting?
Speaker 1: Okay, I could absolutely see you. Yeah, it's intimidating as hell.
Speaker 1: There's a certain point in that game where I was
Speaker 1: intimidated by it, and then all of a sudden, I
Speaker 1: started feeling like I was actually on its level, and
Speaker 1: it became one of my top three from games.
Speaker 2: I don't want to put words his mouth.
Speaker 1: It might be Jake Decker's favorite from game and this
Speaker 1: isn't a bit I think I think he told me. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's it's fucking unreal because there's a boss not four
Speaker 1: hours into that game that is probably one of my
Speaker 1: favorite boss fights of all time in any.
Speaker 3: Genre, which one I probably got there?
Speaker 2: The dude with the lightning?
Speaker 3: Is he on a horse?
Speaker 2: No?
Speaker 3: Okay, on the rooftop of the lightning. I've watched Kayla
Speaker 3: do that, and yeah, crazy, I.
Speaker 2: Could have worn that was early on. Maybe maybe I'm
Speaker 2: understanding past.
Speaker 3: I mean I probably took my sweet time getting to yeah,
Speaker 3: maybe play ten hours, but didn't get that bar.
Speaker 1: You know, I think that would be a very challenging
Speaker 1: game to play a few hours and then drop for
Speaker 1: a week at a time. Yeah, okay, I do think
Speaker 1: there's a rhythm to that game that once you get
Speaker 1: into it, you start to kind of just lock in.
Speaker 1: It's similar to Mike Tyson. Like if you fought one
Speaker 1: fighter at a time, Mike Tyson came back the next week,
Speaker 1: it would be very difficult.
Speaker 2: Okay.
Speaker 1: I mean, obviously play at your own pace, but I
Speaker 1: would say I could see you, yeah, because of your
Speaker 1: love of Tyson, like the pattern recognition of those different
Speaker 1: bosses and mini bosses and even everyday enemies. Once you
Speaker 1: start getting to a point where you're confidently pairing, these
Speaker 1: guys will run at you with spears and you'll just
Speaker 1: kind of laugh and then like step on the tip
Speaker 1: of the spear shove it into the ground so they
Speaker 1: can't do anything and they're just stabbing them in the face.
Speaker 2: It's awesome.
Speaker 3: It's really fun.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's the coolest I've felt in a game. Yeah,
Speaker 1: because I did beat the Armored Corps six too. But
Speaker 1: I don't know people consider that same conversation, you know.
Speaker 2: Maybe, Yeah, it's not as it's not a Soul's Born game.
Speaker 2: But even though Fun made it, Yeah, I think I.
Speaker 3: I think I do want to I do want to
Speaker 3: play that game. It seems like it's very very highly
Speaker 3: regarded and everything I've seen of it seems very cool.
Speaker 1: It was my second favorite game of that year. It
Speaker 1: would have been my favorite if it wasn't for Outer Wilds.
Speaker 3: Twenty nineteen.
Speaker 2: GameSpot gave it Game of the Year.
Speaker 3: Though.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's d I'm glad you're like a Jedi survivor.
Speaker 1: Though I've I've been wanting more people to play that
Speaker 1: just it had such a shitty PC launch and it
Speaker 1: was just in shape.
Speaker 5: They had performance issues, right, And I think that's such
Speaker 5: a bummer because that's the type of thing that is
Speaker 5: really difficult to come back from, like even in the game,
Speaker 5: like if you if it's crashing and people are losing
Speaker 5: their progress, they're going to give it a shitty review.
Speaker 4: That sucks.
Speaker 3: Yeah, And I think I heard that, and it's like
Speaker 3: it was at a time where there were a lot
Speaker 3: of other games out and I was like, Okay, well, whatever,
Speaker 3: this is busted. I'm gonna move on to this and
Speaker 3: I'm probably just gonna forget about this one. Back here
Speaker 3: and now it's like, Okay, there's not a ton of
Speaker 3: releases right now, and towers that an evil, So maybe
Speaker 3: this is my game. Maybe now is the time to
Speaker 3: play it. And it runs super well on PC.
Speaker 1: Now, not to shop on a game that we always
Speaker 1: shot on. But I went back to Jedi Survivor because
Speaker 1: I was so frustrated with Ragnarocks design choices like I
Speaker 1: want like sweeping three D adventure and Dragon Rock is
Speaker 1: just weighing me down every five minutes. I'm going to
Speaker 1: go back to that game at some point, but I
Speaker 1: really was just frustrated. Yeah, sure, I'll try it just
Speaker 1: before the next game comes out. Maybe I won't. Maybe
Speaker 1: you guys are right, maybe why who am I trying
Speaker 1: to please?
Speaker 3: It's not good.
Speaker 4: I'm giving you so much ship.
Speaker 3: I think we started that it's not poop category because
Speaker 3: of that game.
Speaker 2: I know that was for Horizon. I thought the game. Yeah.
Speaker 3: Also also, yeah, such.
Speaker 4: A bummer, like that poor game I can't catch a break.
Speaker 2: Was good, but yeah, no, SEC is great, Jedi Survivor's awesome.
Speaker 3: Yeah, the guys at Dork I don't like the dude.
Speaker 3: I don't either, He's just a dweeb.
Speaker 2: But whatsoever. There's some there are some stuff.
Speaker 1: They introduced the gameplay loop later on that I actually
Speaker 1: found strangely charming, like extremely extremely light farming and like
Speaker 1: base building kind of stuff.
Speaker 3: I've been getting some like seeds and stuff like that. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 3: that's all about Okay, you don't have to interact with
Speaker 3: it if you get bored of it.
Speaker 2: I'm excited to I like that stuff. Yeah. They give
Speaker 2: you like a.
Speaker 1: Home base, which is nice because again, like Horizon did that.
Speaker 1: One of the games we're doing that. We were talking
Speaker 1: about that recently. Forget what game it was in regards
Speaker 1: to though, because like I didn't play enough of Horizon
Speaker 1: Forbidden West the first time to get to the point
Speaker 1: where you're starting to rebuild your bass with different characters.
Speaker 1: But I like when games do that. Uh, Mary, what
Speaker 1: have you been playing.
Speaker 5: I've been playing a scary game called Routine.
Speaker 4: This game is a sci fi horror in space. It
Speaker 4: kind of reminds me of BioShock and the.
Speaker 5: Sense that I think it was meant to be like
Speaker 5: a utopia that came crumbling down. But I would say
Speaker 5: it's better connected to Alien the game because you are
Speaker 5: being hunted by robots. I think I'm still early on,
Speaker 5: but generally what I'm learning is is that these robots
Speaker 5: were like probably meant to help them, you know, and
Speaker 5: they went rogue and started killing people, and they are.
Speaker 4: Absolutely terrifying. It's very scary. They've done an excellent job.
Speaker 5: But also typical in these games, you don't have a weapon,
Speaker 5: so I can't defend myself.
Speaker 4: There is a gun in the game, but it is
Speaker 4: not really for protecting yourself.
Speaker 5: It is a gun that, oh god, my knowledge in
Speaker 5: this space is so limited, I'm going to embarrass myself.
Speaker 4: It like scrambles.
Speaker 5: The screens of things that aren't working properly.
Speaker 4: So like let's say a door.
Speaker 5: Isn't working and you see some tubes coming out of
Speaker 5: the door and they go to a mechanical box. You
Speaker 5: can use the device to reset the mechanical box, and
Speaker 5: thus the door should start working again, if that makes sense.
Speaker 5: The gun has three charges, so you can't just really
Speaker 5: nilly shoot your gun anytime you want. You need to
Speaker 5: be thoughtful about it. You can recharge the gun, but
Speaker 5: only at recharge stations or if you find a battery,
Speaker 5: so it's like something you have to consider, you know, like.
Speaker 3: A one shot like take a robot down, like.
Speaker 5: Pauses the robot for I think a rude amount of time.
Speaker 5: I'm gonna say one and a half seconds. Okay, So
Speaker 5: like you can use one of your precious shots to
Speaker 5: get around a robot. I have not successfully done it,
Speaker 5: but I think you can even like take down a
Speaker 5: robot if you shoot them enough. But it's like, who
Speaker 5: has that many shots in their gun? Like it's you
Speaker 5: got to be busy predominantly. This is like a puzzle game.
Speaker 5: This is a puzzle game where you are solving usually
Speaker 5: some kind of like written Sometimes they feel like tactical puzzles.
Speaker 5: Maybe you'll read in someone's diary that they're dating someone
Speaker 5: and they left them a present and they're the janitor,
Speaker 5: and it's like, okay, well I'll go to the janitorial offices.
Speaker 5: When you go to the janitor offices, you'll see a
Speaker 5: secret and that secret will open up a secret hole
Speaker 5: and you'll need to get in there so you can
Speaker 5: open up some more mechanic pieces.
Speaker 4: I was very I think it's very.
Speaker 5: Fantastical and otherworldly to go into this ship that I
Speaker 5: think is like I think you're like on the moon
Speaker 5: or something. So it's definitely a space environment, and they're
Speaker 5: trying to recreate things that you would have in your house, sorry,
Speaker 5: your home life in Middletown, America.
Speaker 4: There's a mall and.
Speaker 5: So like in one of the areas, I'm walking around
Speaker 5: a mall and it has all these different shops, but
Speaker 5: if you look out the window, you'll see Earth. So
Speaker 5: it's just kind of like fascinating in that space. But
Speaker 5: something has gone wrong. Everything's like broken. The shops are
Speaker 5: all busted. You can't find any people anymore, probably because
Speaker 5: they're all dead.
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 5: I haven't gotten that far, but like I haven't seen
Speaker 5: one human that's alive. And these robots, if they catch you,
Speaker 5: are terrifying. They pick you up and they shake the
Speaker 5: shit out of you and they throw you and if
Speaker 5: they find you enough, they kill you.
Speaker 2: I like the look of them.
Speaker 3: I just googled and do they all have that like
Speaker 3: weird kind of cracked mask face, Like they look creepy.
Speaker 4: Yeah, they are creepy.
Speaker 5: And they've done a great job with the hiding mechanics
Speaker 5: of this game. So if you're into scary games like
Speaker 5: I am, like, you got to have a way to
Speaker 5: avoid them, but still look at them in this game, Crawling, leaning,
Speaker 5: and peeping are a huge mechanic of the game. So
Speaker 5: if you hear them coming, you can hear them. They're
Speaker 5: like cong kung clung. You can hear their little metal
Speaker 5: legs dnking around. You'll hide under something and hope they
Speaker 5: don't see you, and sometimes they'll just still be there,
Speaker 5: but you don't know, so you kind of have to
Speaker 5: like lean. The game has given you all these different
Speaker 5: ways to just peek around a corner or just look
Speaker 5: over something. One of my favorite ones is there's like
Speaker 5: a toolbox or something that I'm hiding under. I can't
Speaker 5: look above or around. All I can do is look below,
Speaker 5: and I just can see their little feet staring, like,
Speaker 5: you know, pointed towards me, and I know if I
Speaker 5: move or make it noise, they're gonna kill me.
Speaker 4: Oh my god. It's pretty scary.
Speaker 3: It sounds kind of like amnesia the way you're describing it.
Speaker 5: I think it has amnesia elements to it. It absolutely
Speaker 5: has gotten progressively scarier. The gun also evolves, which I
Speaker 5: have really appreciated. So again I'm not super far in,
Speaker 5: but the gun has already gotten one evolution that's been
Speaker 5: really helpful. The first evolution of the gun is that
Speaker 5: you shoot it and it can read jiggers mechanics. I
Speaker 5: wish I could be better with my terminology, but you
Speaker 5: shoot it at mechanics and it's like you fixed it.
Speaker 5: You know, this screen wasn't working before, but.
Speaker 4: Now it is. Whatever. The new gun adaptation that.
Speaker 5: I got helps me see. It's like a blue light,
Speaker 5: and so it helps me see different liquids like blood.
Speaker 5: And so I don't want to give away the puzzle,
Speaker 5: but like you, all of a sudden, you'll be able
Speaker 5: to point it at the ground and be like, oh
Speaker 5: my god, somebody was like dragged through here. You could
Speaker 5: follow the blood trail and see what they did to
Speaker 5: get out of the situation, and you'll learn through that
Speaker 5: process how to get out of the mall. In this
Speaker 5: situation right now, I'm in these like home the home barracks.
Speaker 5: So I'm at their home quarters and I'm going through
Speaker 5: the same motions here. I like, I got to find
Speaker 5: out how to get out. I'm locked in and there's
Speaker 5: a mysterious amount of letters and puzzles that I'm following
Speaker 5: to try and figure out a code so that I
Speaker 5: can get the.
Speaker 4: Hell out of here. I think it's very well made.
Speaker 5: My biggest issues with it is like, I'm not sure
Speaker 5: why they put such a strong limit on this gun.
Speaker 5: I feel like they could have put five or six
Speaker 5: charges on it, three charges ahead on your limiting, And
Speaker 5: it prevents me from like testing out theories because I'm like, oh, no,
Speaker 5: I have to put more charges.
Speaker 4: God damn gun.
Speaker 5: I will say, like, sometimes I feel like I could
Speaker 5: use more hints.
Speaker 4: I've gotten, I have figured it out, but.
Speaker 5: There are times where I feel like I need a
Speaker 5: guide or I just need like a little bit more support. Yeah,
Speaker 5: I wish I had like a like a younger kid
Speaker 5: who was like, what what if you just turned the
Speaker 5: wheel so that the water came.
Speaker 3: To better idea? What if your character just talked all
Speaker 3: the time about what you're gonna do next? That'd be great.
Speaker 4: I would rather I mean, actually, that's a really good question.
Speaker 5: This kind of reminds me of the yellow paint thing
Speaker 5: that you know, gamers argue.
Speaker 4: About a lot. But it's like, I would have liked
Speaker 4: more support.
Speaker 5: I suspect if they had given me more support, gamers
Speaker 5: would have been like.
Speaker 4: It's too easy. It is. It is a difficult game.
Speaker 4: It is difficult for two reasons.
Speaker 5: One, the robots are relentless and they absolutely fuck you up,
Speaker 5: and they are terrifying, and they there's no way to
Speaker 5: attack them or do anything about it, so you're just
Speaker 5: constantly running.
Speaker 4: So that is freaky like amnesia.
Speaker 5: Two, the puzzles are just often obtuse and tactical. You know,
Speaker 5: you read a note that leads you to a path
Speaker 5: that leads you to the idea that maybe you should
Speaker 5: be doing it this way, and if you test around enough,
Speaker 5: you'll figure it out. You'll need a code to get
Speaker 5: you know, a bobble that'll get you, a key that'll
Speaker 5: get you lah blah blah. Like it's it's tough, but
Speaker 5: I love it. I think it's extremely well constructed. I
Speaker 5: believe this is a raw Fury. It's cool for like
Speaker 5: a game of this magnitude to succeed in the manner
Speaker 5: that it is trying to succeed.
Speaker 4: I think Raw Fury made blueprints, if the hell if that.
Speaker 5: I think they published it so like they've made stuff
Speaker 5: that I've liked before. I think this is like a
Speaker 5: nice similar caliber of like quality, high high quality execution
Speaker 5: of a horror game that scares the p out of me.
Speaker 5: I The only reason I think I will not finish
Speaker 5: this is because I think it's a little it's kind
Speaker 5: of so scary, like amnesia.
Speaker 4: I need a break. I don't want to feel this
Speaker 4: way all the time.
Speaker 2: But very good, nice yead it looks it like, just
Speaker 2: looks good.
Speaker 5: People who like Alien would like this game. It's got
Speaker 5: all the same vibes.
Speaker 1: I went back overbreak to replay, retry a few games.
Speaker 2: I played more.
Speaker 1: I played Shadow Gambit again, that overhead stealth game from right.
Speaker 2: I still love that game, did you?
Speaker 1: It was just that time of year when I was like,
Speaker 1: I just I had ate most of what I wanted
Speaker 1: to from last year minus two. I still need to
Speaker 1: play Kingdom Cum Deliverance too, and I want to play
Speaker 1: Metrod Prime four Still. I just didn't have the energy
Speaker 1: to start a new game, so I was just kind
Speaker 1: of looking through Steam like, oh, Shadow game, I love
Speaker 1: that game. Got stucked into that for a few hours overbreak,
Speaker 1: and then the game I played the most over break
Speaker 1: was They Are Billions.
Speaker 3: Went back to the Rats Zombies thee there's a rat
Speaker 3: one where it's like a tower not tower defense. It's
Speaker 3: like an RTS and a bunch of rats. No you're
Speaker 3: we talked about this. It was a PC game we
Speaker 3: first started the podcast. It was like you build a
Speaker 3: base and then a bunch of fucking rats come in
Speaker 3: and waves and you gotta like protect your base. Oh no,
Speaker 3: it's like an it's like a command of concer view.
Speaker 3: I could have sworn it was there billions.
Speaker 2: They are billions. There's swarms of them. But they're zombies,
Speaker 2: not rats.
Speaker 3: Are you sure they're not rats?
Speaker 2: Positive?
Speaker 3: I'm looking at it now. It's definitely their billions.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, okay, yeah, I replayed this game. But they're
Speaker 1: not rats.
Speaker 3: Though, or you were talking about a game, so I
Speaker 3: just assumed it was rats. Oh yeah, very fair.
Speaker 5: I mean, I mean it's it's such an easy like
Speaker 5: art exchange too, Like you could really replace zombies with
Speaker 5: rats at any point.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah, things scrawling around.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: I got sucked into that game for like twelve hours overbreak.
Speaker 1: I still love it. If we've talked about in the
Speaker 1: podcast before I wrote about it, or I talked about
Speaker 1: it at a game spot came out a while ago.
Speaker 2: I want to say it was twenty seventeen, same year's
Speaker 2: Breath of the Wild nineteen.
Speaker 1: That's seventeen was breath the will right. I think this
Speaker 1: came out in early access in twenty seventeen. Launched twenty nineteen.
Speaker 1: The campaign I don't fucking touch it sucked. The Survivor
Speaker 1: Survivor mode, which is just the OG mode, but yeah,
Speaker 1: it's if you are if you turtle in real time
Speaker 1: strategy games, this is the game for you. They literally
Speaker 1: were like, we know people like to play that way,
Speaker 1: play tall more or focused on defense and slow expansion
Speaker 1: and covering all of your possible avenues of approach, and
Speaker 1: they're like, we're going to make a game about this.
Speaker 1: And I was trying very hard to beat the most
Speaker 1: difficult map. There are three different difficulty options you can tweak.
Speaker 1: You only unlock the next map if you have a
Speaker 1: score factor of one hundred percent or higher. So you
Speaker 1: can say, Okay, I want the zombie population on the
Speaker 1: map to be medium, but I want to only have
Speaker 1: one hundred and twenty days to survive. And then you
Speaker 1: can tweak those two and raising or lowering them will
Speaker 1: change the score factor as long as you have a
Speaker 1: score factor one hundred percent or above with some combination
Speaker 1: of map population, the number of days you need to survive,
Speaker 1: and there's one more. I'm forgetting it. You unlock the
Speaker 1: next map. I unlock the most difficult map. I was
Speaker 1: trying it. I fucking The zombies are more irritable because
Speaker 1: it's in a desert, so they're more likely to swarm
Speaker 1: your base for no reason outside of the big waves,
Speaker 1: So it makes covering all those potential nooks and crannies
Speaker 1: they can sneak into your base from all the more stressful.
Speaker 1: I'm sure there's some uh, there's some secret sauce that
Speaker 1: I'll find that will help. But I will say I
Speaker 1: like the game more on the mid difficulty maps because
Speaker 1: on the higher difficulty maps, I feel way more inclined
Speaker 1: to restart immediately if I don't get a favorable map.
Speaker 1: It is a rogue light the map design, and I
Speaker 1: don't like doing that. Like in Civilization. I never did that,
Speaker 1: even though if I even if I started on a
Speaker 1: shitty island, I'm like, let's just see what happens. The
Speaker 1: emergent scenarios that'll come out of that. They are billions.
Speaker 1: The hardest map, I'm like, all right, this sucks. I
Speaker 1: don't have enough food near me, no forests, no ponds
Speaker 1: to gather food like I need to restart immediately, just
Speaker 1: so much less smaller margin of error. But I still
Speaker 1: love that game. It's one of the of the last decade.
Speaker 1: Definitely way up there for me. They stopped, they stopped
Speaker 1: supporting it a while ago. They're working on like a
Speaker 1: full fledged role playing game now, Numantium. They're a Spanish studio.
Speaker 1: I don't you know, I don't know. Good luck to them,
Speaker 1: but I wish they would have done more with this
Speaker 1: because I love it. Dann, what else you been playing?
Speaker 3: I mean, I put a few games down on this list,
Speaker 3: but the reality of it is, I am still in
Speaker 3: the sectory hole, the likes of which I have not
Speaker 3: seen in years. It is I just got to nine million,
Speaker 3: So I'm at like nine million right now. Grub is
Speaker 3: it ten million? Jacob Geller is at like twelve million?
Speaker 2: Is that a high score?
Speaker 3: What do you mean?
Speaker 2: What do you Is that your high score? Or you're okay, okay, gosh.
Speaker 3: Yes, yeah, yeah, so I am. It is such a
Speaker 3: on a surface simple game that like I just keep playing,
Speaker 3: like I'm I've played sixty seventy hours of this now,
Speaker 3: and it's like I am still just like, oh, I
Speaker 3: just had the Eureka moment that like, I've been doing
Speaker 3: this wrong the entire time. I need to make it
Speaker 3: all about this or the strike combos or wait, here's
Speaker 3: a great way to extend the straight combos.
Speaker 5: Or it's just have you done the thing I told
Speaker 5: you too? Or you fucked up your car, you mix
Speaker 5: up your cards.
Speaker 3: I didn't mix up the card. I tried the chaos thing.
Speaker 3: That is interesting. The only thing I didn't. I think
Speaker 3: the reason I turned it off is because I like
Speaker 3: the stack shuffle thing, but you don't get scores for
Speaker 3: just normal enemy kills if you do that, I think.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's a huge differentiator.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's so.
Speaker 3: It's like, if I'm going for score, it's like, well, okay,
Speaker 3: I love the idea of like blaster being the first
Speaker 3: upgrade or something, but like if it means I'm not
Speaker 3: kidding a score for everything else, I just can't do that.
Speaker 2: It is really.
Speaker 5: Interesting, though, let me find hold on my friend list.
Speaker 5: I was playing Sectory the other day at the bar.
Speaker 5: I beat it, by the way, Oh nice, nice, I
Speaker 5: finally like one on the experience. Yeah, but like my
Speaker 5: score wasn't even that high. I feel like if you're
Speaker 5: going for score, like who gives a shit if you
Speaker 5: win the games?
Speaker 3: Were you buying shields?
Speaker 5: I didn't buy shields, but I did the chaos mode,
Speaker 5: so my score wasn't as hot.
Speaker 3: That's a problem.
Speaker 2: That's a problem.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I fucking hear you.
Speaker 1: Where's unsolicited advice? Really rubs merry the right way?
Speaker 2: I've already heard that's where you're sucking up.
Speaker 3: That's right, it's stupid, classic classic fuck ups.
Speaker 2: Where are your manamar on idiots?
Speaker 5: Grub fucking messaged me to tell it to give you
Speaker 5: advice as well.
Speaker 2: Hey Mary, by okay, I saw where you're going wrong.
Speaker 2: I just want to say, you're a fucking idiot. But
Speaker 2: also here's differently.
Speaker 4: Grub never fucking dms me. I'm playing this game, I
Speaker 4: get a d M and I check it and it
Speaker 4: just says you'll never get ten million?
Speaker 2: What a fuck?
Speaker 5: All it says, fuck you, Grub, and I went back
Speaker 5: to the grind. I'm still stuck at three and a
Speaker 5: half million, but hard just dming me.
Speaker 2: That is so rude, all right, Mary?
Speaker 3: I I talked to Kime was on content or not
Speaker 3: this week, but I asked him, I was like, if
Speaker 3: I beat your score, would this be like a problem?
Speaker 3: For you, like, would you fixate on this? And he's like, oh, absolutely,
Speaker 3: would consume my life, And so we need one of
Speaker 3: us needs to top Jeff Grubb.
Speaker 4: He's a ghoul. He'll never let it go. You have
Speaker 4: to kill him.
Speaker 5: I don't know if I'm powerful enough, and he's He
Speaker 5: has sparked an anger within me so deep that I
Speaker 5: would like to destroy him. But I will admit privately
Speaker 5: in this podcast that I am afraid of him because
Speaker 5: every time shut up, every time there is a friend
Speaker 5: mode where you can compare your scores, Grub is like.
Speaker 4: One in the world.
Speaker 3: No, Geller's better than him, and I will beat him.
Speaker 3: I will be Grub.
Speaker 4: He's just human. All humans can be killed.
Speaker 3: I beat him in an astrobot. I can beat him
Speaker 3: at this Like all, okay, So here's my question.
Speaker 1: You two played this game more than me. I love
Speaker 1: this game. It was high up my list last year.
Speaker 1: What and this might be a loaded question, so please
Speaker 1: tell me if it is. What is Geller doing? Does
Speaker 1: he understand mechanics better or is he just better at
Speaker 1: the game?
Speaker 3: So there is a whole other ways to play that
Speaker 3: I probably played fifty hours before I realized and then Finally,
Speaker 3: I was like, because like, not a lot of people
Speaker 3: are playing this game, so there's not a lot of
Speaker 3: good guides or anything. There's like two Reddit threads I've
Speaker 3: looked at twenty times, and they don't help that much.
Speaker 5: It's not even that impressive that Grub has the score
Speaker 5: that he has. I feel like if the world actually
Speaker 5: investigated it, it would have been beaten by now.
Speaker 3: And we will and we will. And I was in
Speaker 3: the research, I know you do you tell me this
Speaker 3: privately always.
Speaker 2: That's why I wanted to beat his.
Speaker 5: In the privacy in this personal podcast.
Speaker 4: I wanted to know that you have to destroy him.
Speaker 3: Oh, I know, yes, And I was researching. I looked
Speaker 3: up there was a because I'm playing on challenging mode now,
Speaker 3: like medium difficulty, and that's the one that like all
Speaker 3: the top scorers are on challenging mode. So I looked
Speaker 3: up like a high score and it was like a
Speaker 3: twenty eight million dollars or eight million point run.
Speaker 2: Man.
Speaker 3: I watched and like immediately this guy was doing shit.
Speaker 3: I was like, what is I played so much in
Speaker 3: this game? What is he even doing? Why is he
Speaker 3: striking into nothing?
Speaker 6: You know?
Speaker 2: Why is he doing this?
Speaker 3: And then I started realizing, like, oh fuck, he's just
Speaker 3: trying to get that strike combo up because I'm challenging.
Speaker 3: You can get it up to a ten times multiplier
Speaker 3: and you don't have to hit anything, you don't have
Speaker 3: to dash into a token. Just the act of striking
Speaker 3: will up your strike combo and keep it going.
Speaker 4: So to just constantly be striking.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, but here's the thing, because you don't have
Speaker 3: enough time to recharge naturally an entire strike and do
Speaker 3: it again.
Speaker 2: So here's how you do it.
Speaker 3: You strike into nothing, Okay, that gives you one strike multiplier,
Speaker 3: and then you get a token. You get one of
Speaker 3: the selector tokens, and let's say it's speed or whatever.
Speaker 3: You know, you apply it and whenever you apply an upgrade,
Speaker 3: it instantly recharges your shield. Sure, so that's a way
Speaker 3: you can kind of keep that chain going. And so
Speaker 3: now I think it is all about just trying to
Speaker 3: get that strike combo up and keeping it up. And
Speaker 3: that's how you do it. It's interesting trying to get better
Speaker 3: that and how he's playing or I haven't seen any
Speaker 3: gallers no doing. I think I've challenge us doing interesting.
Speaker 3: He beat uh, he beat a run unchallenging, and like,
Speaker 3: I have not done that. I've gotten to like the
Speaker 3: very last part. But if I would have beaten that run,
Speaker 3: I probably would.
Speaker 5: Yeah, because it's obvious if you pay play it on
Speaker 5: a more difficult difficulty, you accrue more points.
Speaker 3: Way more stuff to shoot, and that multiplier goes up
Speaker 3: to ten, whereas on the first difficulty he goes up
Speaker 3: to five.
Speaker 2: Mmmm.
Speaker 3: So I'm like, I want to say, I'm like sixty
Speaker 3: something in the world. Grub is like thirty something in
Speaker 3: the world, and Geller is in the top like twelve
Speaker 3: or something.
Speaker 5: I'm like one than six hundred and twenty ninth, which
Speaker 5: I make good for Mary.
Speaker 3: Let's keep working at it.
Speaker 4: Grub.
Speaker 2: It's it's just so fucking good.
Speaker 3: But anyway, I didn't put it on my list this
Speaker 3: week because like, that's I mean, that is the main thing.
Speaker 3: Like I will sit down and be like, all right,
Speaker 3: I'm going to set a rule for myself. I'm gonna
Speaker 3: do three runs, and I'll do three runs. Well those
Speaker 3: those don't count. It's like, okay, next time I get
Speaker 3: a run where I at least go past the boss
Speaker 3: and don't die, And it's like and I'll die and
Speaker 3: it's like and then literally six hours later, I'm just
Speaker 3: like my eye out and.
Speaker 4: I'm the same.
Speaker 5: What I will say is like, there are all sorts
Speaker 5: of games that I like to sit down and play.
Speaker 5: We're talking about them right like, he's like, Oh, it's
Speaker 5: my Friday night, it's my day after work. I'm going
Speaker 5: to just sit and play this game. What I like
Speaker 5: about Sectory is I could be at a bar with
Speaker 5: my steam Deck, which is actually when I beat it,
Speaker 5: and I was like, I have time for a couple
Speaker 5: of runs. I'm just drinking a beer and I'm like,
Speaker 5: sitting here with my steam Deck. You can play this
Speaker 5: very casually but also very aggressively. This game lends itself
Speaker 5: to the casual backseat of a car.
Speaker 4: What I have, What I have like ten minutes mine
Speaker 4: as well.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm a Sectory snob. I got lunch with Ben
Speaker 3: Hansen this weekend and we're talking about this and he's like, oh, yeah,
Speaker 3: I love this, Yeah, I'll play it when it's like
Speaker 3: I've heard several people bring up like it's my treadmill game,
Speaker 3: where it's my workout game, where it's my he said
Speaker 3: something along those lines. I'm like, Oh, then you're not
Speaker 3: like really playing, you.
Speaker 2: Know, like I gotta give it.
Speaker 5: Wait yeah wait, I got to get his username and
Speaker 5: then dm M and say you'll never get my score.
Speaker 3: Oh I cannot imagine. I don't am I not even
Speaker 3: Steam friends with Hanson. I might not be. I haven't
Speaker 3: seen him on the way.
Speaker 4: It's just so funny.
Speaker 5: I find that funny too, Like I've been friends with
Speaker 5: people for years and we've like at game Spot, we've
Speaker 5: like worked together, and I'll be like, oh my god,
Speaker 5: we're not friends on Steam, like not always because I
Speaker 5: used I used a work account sometimes for games, so it's.
Speaker 3: Oh, I'm not Yeah, I don't play multiplayer games really,
Speaker 3: So like my best friends, I'm probably not you know,
Speaker 3: Steam friends with. And also Hanson is Hanson knows more
Speaker 3: about games than anyone I or the making of games
Speaker 3: anyone I've ever met. He's not good at them, so
Speaker 3: don't worry about his score. Like, Hanson is a non
Speaker 3: factor in terms of a score challenge. Focus on grub.
Speaker 4: I always am focused.
Speaker 3: On Hampson's not a serious person when it comes to this.
Speaker 5: Hanson's not a serious No, he's not speaking of what
Speaker 5: are you?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 1: I where's I saw you posted the who wants to
Speaker 1: be a grubby and Air? I never got my cutoff
Speaker 1: grubbers or whatever you want to call him.
Speaker 3: Oh, I didn't either, God fucking grub Jesus Christ, Yeah, married.
Speaker 2: Do you know what happened?
Speaker 4: Grubby and Air?
Speaker 1: And Dan was on who wants to be a grubbing Air?
Speaker 1: And on the final question for a million grubbers? He
Speaker 1: called me for the lifeline and I gave him the
Speaker 1: correct answer. And I haven't seen a red scent from.
Speaker 3: I mean I haven't either, So I'll cut you in
Speaker 3: one scrub based Nati, We don't know the value called
Speaker 3: him Mike was what he was like bommed in the
Speaker 3: video that you didn't call him for that question? It
Speaker 3: seems like a mic question Mike Maharty, Oh, yeah, gotcha.
Speaker 5: If I was going for a million dollars, even if
Speaker 5: I without knowing the question, I think Mike would be
Speaker 5: on my list.
Speaker 2: Maharty, Yes, why naughty would Yeah? If I didn't know
Speaker 2: what color.
Speaker 3: Mickey were in nineteen seventy two, I'll call Manati.
Speaker 5: But extensive uh information about Disney. I am looking for
Speaker 5: someone who has a general knowledge about most things like.
Speaker 1: History, A serious person yeah. Yeah, that's I don't know
Speaker 1: how to take that. Would rather be the weirdo who
Speaker 1: knows too much about one thing.
Speaker 2: Then well a little bit.
Speaker 5: You're the adult in the room, deal with it. But yeah,
Speaker 5: and you never talked to us about the games you
Speaker 5: actually were playing.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, yeah, which, by the way, real quick, what
Speaker 3: we're talking about Marty and Manati. I did say to
Speaker 3: someone in the last week. I said, at this point,
Speaker 3: and tell me, Mike if you think this is true.
Speaker 3: I said, at this point, Maharti is more wine than
Speaker 3: Manati is Disney Ooh, I think No, it's not a
Speaker 3: dig at all. I'm just saying in terms of just
Speaker 3: like absolute, like deep knowledge fixation.
Speaker 2: That's where my focus is for sure. Yeah. Yeah, I
Speaker 2: don't know.
Speaker 5: NAUGHTI has a fridge in his house that is perfectly
Speaker 5: temperature to shove all of the Disney characters into.
Speaker 2: I have to.
Speaker 1: No, definitely pretty laser focused on it. But I don't
Speaker 1: know how much he's into Doney. I know he's really
Speaker 1: into it, but oh, really interesting. I wonder if there's
Speaker 1: a way to test that.
Speaker 3: Who's like to test your wine knowledge versus his Disney knowledge?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 3: I think that would be interesting or like imagine that. Yeah,
Speaker 3: you wine, Minati Disney and like me wrestling, you know,
Speaker 3: like put that all against each other.
Speaker 4: I will say competition.
Speaker 2: I will say just because of how long it's been around.
Speaker 1: I think there's more to know about wine, like I'm
Speaker 1: never going to ever know everything about it. Disney I
Speaker 1: think is maybe doable.
Speaker 3: Wrestling Mike has done it. Yeah, I definitely don't know much.
Speaker 3: Like I know a very specific chunk of wrestling, but
Speaker 3: like I don't know anyth much jappening he's wrestling. There's
Speaker 3: so much I don't know.
Speaker 1: So yeah, that's the thing too. It's like wrestling, Wine
Speaker 1: is global, Disney. Disney is Florida, true tendrils that went out.
Speaker 1: But it's not like people are making Disney movies in
Speaker 1: every country.
Speaker 2: I mean, Walt Disney.
Speaker 3: Just Disney products feel very Florida in nature, don't they.
Speaker 2: Yeah? Yeah, it reeks of alligators and mosquitoes and yeah,
Speaker 2: old people, alcoholic slushies, the games.
Speaker 3: I have been playing New Orleans. I can't wait. I
Speaker 3: can't wait. American we say that that we're going there. Okay,
Speaker 3: Mary and I are going to New Orleans soon, and
Speaker 3: I've been planning the trip, and it will be my
Speaker 3: sixth time, it'll be Mary's first. And oh my god,
Speaker 3: Mary's been, right, Mike, you had.
Speaker 4: Not ten years ten years since I've gone.
Speaker 3: Okay, I've gone six times in the last ten years.
Speaker 4: So yeah, yeah, it's been ages since I've been. But
Speaker 4: I love it well, I can't wait.
Speaker 3: So anyway, very excited about that. We'll have stories from
Speaker 3: there for sure. The games I have been playing the
Speaker 3: one thing it's been dabbling. It's been dabbling because again
Speaker 3: Sectory is taking up everything with big hops is a
Speaker 3: game about a.
Speaker 2: Frog and he jumps around Mary already. Yep, yep.
Speaker 3: It's a cute little frog that hops on.
Speaker 2: Marry.
Speaker 3: This seems prime for a Mary stream. H you're your
Speaker 3: frog that hops around. He's got a tongue that he
Speaker 3: uses to grapple, lot of things. He can wall run and.
Speaker 5: You can a bar is a lily pad, get out.
Speaker 3: It's an adorable game.
Speaker 2: It is Mobby says, I got to get my frog on.
Speaker 4: Oh, you can swim underwater.
Speaker 2: It's a very cute game, for sure.
Speaker 3: It is very much going in that Mario sixty four vane,
Speaker 3: you know, platforming, going around collecting these bits and stuff
Speaker 3: to unlock future levels and stuff like that.
Speaker 2: It is so cute.
Speaker 3: It is quite good for one of those. You know,
Speaker 3: it's a smaller team, so obviously it's like not fair
Speaker 3: to put it Tomorrio standards. That said, I do play
Speaker 3: a shiplottle Mario games, and I am just so used
Speaker 3: to a certain amount of like predictability with the motion
Speaker 3: and stuff. And there definitely is things in big hops
Speaker 3: where it's like, oh, the momentum or the angle you
Speaker 3: come in at something is weird. And so it's like
Speaker 3: I was trying to wall run on this thing, but
Speaker 3: it thought I was trying to all jump, so it's
Speaker 3: like I didn't run and I just slide off and
Speaker 3: follow my death or whatever. So like, there have been
Speaker 3: enough kind of janky elements to it where it's like
Speaker 3: I'm kind of getting frustrated by it, but it is
Speaker 3: undeniably a really good one of these, And Mary, I
Speaker 3: do think this would be a fantastic stream game for you.
Speaker 5: I love games like this. I love the platforming elements
Speaker 5: and it looks like there's some light puzzling where you're
Speaker 5: like getting your tongue to solve a lock.
Speaker 4: Like that's fun. Yeah, this looks very cute.
Speaker 3: I think I think you would like it a lot,
Speaker 3: and I will play more of it. It's yeah, and
Speaker 3: like you have a backpack and every time you get
Speaker 3: like basically their equivalent of a star, it'll be like,
Speaker 3: choose one of these two upgrades. So there's perks and stuff.
Speaker 3: So it's like, oh, when you slide on your belly,
Speaker 3: you'll go further, or your backpack is bigger and can
Speaker 3: hold more trinkets, and you know, like it's it does
Speaker 3: a great job with that stuff. I'll play more, even
Speaker 3: if I'm a little frustrated with some of the movement.
Speaker 3: The other one very brief. Romeo is a dead Man.
Speaker 3: It's the upcoming suit of fifty one game. I got
Speaker 3: a preview build of that. It is extremely suda you've
Speaker 3: ever played his stuff. It's very no More Heroes Killer seven,
Speaker 3: but like even more so than usual. It is just
Speaker 3: like you'll go into areas and the entire art style
Speaker 3: changes in this very stylish ways, so it's like you're
Speaker 3: going from this third person hack and slash to your
Speaker 3: ship where everything is like kind of pixel art and
Speaker 3: things like that, and like really weird, like you know,
Speaker 3: all your ways of leveling up and everything are all
Speaker 3: individual minigames on the ship that are totally different experiences,
Speaker 3: and it's there's just it's throwing so much at you
Speaker 3: in a way that is kind of fun. Esthetically, it
Speaker 3: is extremely stylish, I'll say, the moment to moment combat stuff.
Speaker 3: It feels very Xbox three sixty, So it's very you know,
Speaker 3: access your life attack, why is your strong attack? And
Speaker 3: then you got this you know, super attack, and you
Speaker 3: know it's it's just the first couple of missions I
Speaker 3: had access to. So we'll see there were some systems
Speaker 3: that I would like to see, Like you're growing these
Speaker 3: these bastards they call them, on your ship and so
Speaker 3: it's like basically you're like growing these zombie enemies in
Speaker 3: a field on your ship and you can like deploy them.
Speaker 3: It's like this one's like kind of like a turret basically,
Speaker 3: and so there's some interesting wrinkles to the combat and everything.
Speaker 3: So I'll i'll, you know, touch based on it once
Speaker 3: it comes out. But uh, extremely souda, but also feels
Speaker 3: a little bit dated in the actual like moment to moment,
Speaker 3: so I'll keep my eyes.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that sounds like a lot of his games.
Speaker 3: Yep, yep, yep, yep. They will not surprise anyone if
Speaker 3: you played pseudo games.
Speaker 2: Wait, sudo is also is that Shadows of the Damned
Speaker 2: m I think that's my favorite? Was that Macammie and Suda?
Speaker 3: It sounds yeah, yeah that I like that one.
Speaker 2: I like Shadow a lot of phallic stuff, but like
Speaker 2: it felt like RESI before even within two in the
Speaker 2: same school.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it wasn't your gun named Boner?
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, everything everything is a thing.
Speaker 3: Yeah, your name is hot Spur. Yeah, what's done?
Speaker 2: Crawl? All right?
Speaker 4: Dune Krawl is the best co op game so far
Speaker 4: in twenty twenty six. Guys, it's so cool. I know
Speaker 4: we're gonna get more of these like these.
Speaker 2: Uh yeah, it's January eleven games.
Speaker 5: Yeah, friend slop is everywhere.
Speaker 4: This isn't really friend slop. I think this is like
Speaker 4: genuine couch co op type gameplay. Super fun. You are.
Speaker 5: I don't even know what you are, but you ride
Speaker 5: a crab and one person is driving the crab and
Speaker 5: the other person is shooting the cannons to help like
Speaker 5: take down different towers and then.
Speaker 4: You can upgrade your crab.
Speaker 5: Guys, you like might find something in the world, like
Speaker 5: I found this steel plate in an area, and I
Speaker 5: attached it to my crab and it protects his little arm,
Speaker 5: and so while he's walking around, he's got steel plates.
Speaker 4: You got to heal your crab. You gotta make sure
Speaker 4: your crab is healthy. And then you get off of
Speaker 4: the crab at these.
Speaker 5: Different islands and do the excursions.
Speaker 4: You bring back.
Speaker 5: Treasures, and then you sell the treasures for upgrades for
Speaker 5: your giant crab and for yourselves. And there's even secrets
Speaker 5: on these islands, so you might be like, that's weird,
Speaker 5: Like what's up with this like.
Speaker 4: Weird looking wall? And you bomb it.
Speaker 5: You go through the wall and there's a whole fucking
Speaker 5: area in there with an extra secret treasure in there
Speaker 5: if you're paying attention. At first, I thought it was
Speaker 5: too easy. At first, I was like, this game is
Speaker 5: for babies, and I respect that, but it's too easy.
Speaker 5: But on like the it took a couple hours for
Speaker 5: it to get moving. There is a point where I
Speaker 5: was like, Okay, these guys are cooking and now I.
Speaker 4: Need to have my shit together.
Speaker 5: So it did get harder as the game progressed, but
Speaker 5: I appreciated the easiness of it because I think if
Speaker 5: you were going to like play this with a partner,
Speaker 5: like a you know, a sibling, and you're like, I
Speaker 5: don't want it to.
Speaker 4: Be too hard. It starts very reasonably and then it
Speaker 4: builds over time.
Speaker 5: So I've loving it. It has a couple issues, I think,
Speaker 5: Like I think aesthetically, it's like a little bland. You're
Speaker 5: in a desert every time, there's always a desert area.
Speaker 5: It's just brown town, you know, and I just you
Speaker 5: don't see a lot of change in the environment.
Speaker 4: I think that's kind of exhausting. I feel like I.
Speaker 5: Had like one other issue with it, but they're minor,
Speaker 5: like generally speaking, Like, I'm enjoying playing this game. I
Speaker 5: like riding my crab around town and upgrading her.
Speaker 4: Oh, you could also find masks.
Speaker 5: This was pretty cool. There's like lots of stuff you're
Speaker 5: kind of learning as I'm playing it. But at one
Speaker 5: of the excursions, I got a mask and nobody would
Speaker 5: accept it, no one would buy it, and so I
Speaker 5: put it on my.
Speaker 4: Crab crab mask.
Speaker 5: I like, I'm like upgrading my crab with like different Oh,
Speaker 5: I got a upgrade from one of my crab's claws.
Speaker 5: And when it's when it steps there, it creates a
Speaker 5: trap on the ground, and so I'm like constantly upgrading
Speaker 5: my crab. It goes up to four player co op
Speaker 5: playing it with I'm playing it.
Speaker 4: What do you mean?
Speaker 1: Who?
Speaker 2: How many? Know? How many people are you playing it with?
Speaker 4: Just one?
Speaker 5: So it's just two of us right now. I'd love
Speaker 5: to play it with four. I think it'll be fun.
Speaker 4: I wonder if that would make it too awkward.
Speaker 1: Ye, the way you're describing it first, it reminded me
Speaker 1: of did you ever play Lovers in a Dangerous Space time? Yeah,
Speaker 1: but that was way more challenging right off the bat
Speaker 1: than this is. And that wasn't explorating it. That was
Speaker 1: more like Housemark Arcadie kind of vibes.
Speaker 5: Yeah, what's that other game with four people where you're
Speaker 5: like doing challenging platforming.
Speaker 4: Things and everyone and it's just like Castle Crushers.
Speaker 2: This kind of has a castle that's that's a beat
Speaker 2: them off. Yeah, it has.
Speaker 5: Some like schmuppy type things. There's a lot of different
Speaker 5: weapons in the space. You're constantly finding new weapons, I
Speaker 5: mean the upgrades. Oh, and there's environmental kills and stuff too.
Speaker 5: It's just pretty fun. So I think you find like
Speaker 5: little red barrels and shoot them and they like pop
Speaker 5: off and everyone will explode. And oh and there's beatle
Speaker 5: as well, and so you're constantly like you find a
Speaker 5: beetle in the environment, you can ride it.
Speaker 4: It's so fun.
Speaker 5: I found a beetle that had two side cars were
Speaker 5: like sidecaring it up.
Speaker 4: If you find like random.
Speaker 5: People you can take their stuff. I think it's really
Speaker 5: cute and well done. It's not perfect. One of the
Speaker 5: other issues we came across was I think the camera
Speaker 5: follows like the main person this is couch co op,
Speaker 5: and if I died, it goes the camera goes back
Speaker 5: to me, so the person who was progressing like loses
Speaker 5: their progress.
Speaker 4: There was like a couple janky things as well.
Speaker 5: When I was like trying to get off my crab
Speaker 5: and it like didn't know if I was trying to
Speaker 5: get on the ladder or not. I like floated in
Speaker 5: the air and kind of like janked away.
Speaker 4: So it's not perfect.
Speaker 5: I think this is a small indie team. In fact,
Speaker 5: I know it is because I've played their games before.
Speaker 5: This is Alien Trap they made Kryptarc I played that
Speaker 5: and Capsize. I don't know if you guys played that.
Speaker 5: This group has been around for a really long time,
Speaker 5: but they make their They've got to be a small team.
Speaker 5: This has got to be like a twenty little group
Speaker 5: of devs making this, and I think they've done an
Speaker 5: excellent job.
Speaker 2: Nice cool.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I hope more people like play this like in groups,
Speaker 5: especially as like co op is becoming more appealing.
Speaker 4: I just think this has got It's got the.
Speaker 2: Sauce, guys, sounds of mili.
Speaker 4: I think we should play it. I would love to
Speaker 4: play it with you, guys. I've loved I loved.
Speaker 5: It when I was like figuring out and every time
Speaker 5: I like learned something all the again. The weapons are
Speaker 5: so I just found a boomerang, which is such a
Speaker 5: funny weapon because it's like that comes back at you.
Speaker 5: And the different exploding weapons, and my favorite is just
Speaker 5: simply like a bo like a bow that does acid damage.
Speaker 5: Is like my favorite weapon in the game. But it's
Speaker 5: it's simple, good hearted co op fun and I do
Speaker 5: recommend this if people are like actively looking for new
Speaker 5: co op experiences like this, is it, dude, like build
Speaker 5: your mech crab, go out prosper super fun?
Speaker 3: Cool?
Speaker 1: All right, do you wanna do some emails sure, okay.
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Speaker 1: new ones since the last episode. Thank you so much, Mary.
Speaker 1: Do you want to read this first one from Stephanie?
Speaker 4: Hello?
Speaker 2: Wait, nope?
Speaker 4: Congratulations?
Speaker 5: Yeah, your real selves have inherited farms in Stardow Valley?
Speaker 4: Would you drop everything and move there?
Speaker 2: I think we'd all say yeah, a sosolutely?
Speaker 3: Can I like stream and stuff from the farm?
Speaker 2: Sure? Why not? Yeah? Yeah? Yeah, yeah, that's not a
Speaker 2: fun job the premise.
Speaker 5: If yes, how would you spend most of your time
Speaker 5: in Stardo? Who would have had the most successful farm
Speaker 5: after three years? Who would sell out to Jojo mart first?
Speaker 5: Cheers Stephanie from Vancouver Island, Canada. Yeah, I agree, I
Speaker 5: think we'd all do it.
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 4: Who was actually my corporo life? And just starting a farm.
Speaker 2: Is so cool?
Speaker 3: It does sound great, sounds nice.
Speaker 1: I don't take offense to this, Dan, I think the
Speaker 1: best farm would probably be between Mary and.
Speaker 3: Me, But my whole family is farmers.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but it doesn't mean you know how to do anything.
Speaker 4: It's not in your blood.
Speaker 3: I might awaken something in my jeans, you know, might
Speaker 3: like it's like the devil gene and techan like something
Speaker 3: like something activates and I'm a fucking.
Speaker 2: Sleeper sell inside. Yeah. My grandparents were all farmers as well.
Speaker 3: I mean it's like my extended family is all farmers
Speaker 3: and my direct family is all grocers.
Speaker 5: You know, so I feel like there's generation is all eaters.
Speaker 4: I don't know what about circle yeah.
Speaker 1: Dan, like it sets foot in the in the on
Speaker 1: the farms, like I could do this with a channel
Speaker 1: like Grandpa, and the crops are just dead on daytime.
Speaker 3: Here was a grocer, I'd right, I'd run the store
Speaker 3: in town where they sold the stuff Joe.
Speaker 2: I would have.
Speaker 3: People you're the Jojo tending to the farm part of it,
Speaker 3: and then I would work the store and then stream
Speaker 3: at night.
Speaker 1: The general store or the high pay the grocery store. Okay, gotcha.
Speaker 2: Well, because that thing is like Jojo.
Speaker 3: Mart, that's basically we'll put the family business out of business.
Speaker 3: Is like ninety three Records market clothes because Walmart Target,
Speaker 3: you know, they all started doing grocery stuff and everything,
Speaker 3: and all the big box stores put us out of business.
Speaker 3: So like I feel like it would be in my
Speaker 3: DNA to like, well, no, I got to run the
Speaker 3: mom and pop shop.
Speaker 5: You know, this isn't answering the question properly, but I
Speaker 5: did used to have dreams about being in Stardew Valley
Speaker 5: and like existing in that town, like probably so many
Speaker 5: people who've played that game. But it wasn't being a farmer.
Speaker 5: It was owning the local bar because the part the
Speaker 5: pub is always poppin'. It's very busy, especially on Friday
Speaker 5: and Saturday night. They have like a good crew, there's
Speaker 5: arcade games. It just feels so awesome. If I was
Speaker 5: a Stardoo Valley person who stayed in that town.
Speaker 4: I would own the bar, dude, and I would like
Speaker 4: give people their beers and just enjoy that life.
Speaker 3: Mary, I could one hundred percent see you, just like
Speaker 3: retiring young and just like running a bar in Portland.
Speaker 4: I think sometimes it's my dream.
Speaker 5: I don't know a lot about it, so would probably
Speaker 5: destroy it and it wouldn't go well to death in there.
Speaker 5: But the concept to me of opening a simple bar
Speaker 5: and what I mean by that, is is like if
Speaker 5: you go in there and you order some fucking fancy
Speaker 5: schmancy fandangled drink, I'm gonna be like, do you want
Speaker 5: a beer or not?
Speaker 4: Do you want a.
Speaker 5: Shot of whiskey or get out? I would order I
Speaker 5: would like have a bar.
Speaker 3: Would you be the bartender who's taking the shots with
Speaker 3: the people where it's like, oh, they order three shots
Speaker 3: of whiskey. I do like that, Like that that's fun
Speaker 3: at bars when like a bartender will take a shot
Speaker 3: with you or something. I like that.
Speaker 4: I think I would enjoy that life. I do think
Speaker 4: it would probably lose its luster.
Speaker 5: I was a bartender, so like it's not like I
Speaker 5: don't know that world, but like I think owning the
Speaker 5: bar is a different vibe, right, and like caring about
Speaker 5: it and like enjoying your locals, your regulars that come
Speaker 5: all the time. You know their name and you're like,
Speaker 5: just like I go to the same goddamn bar almost
Speaker 5: every weekend.
Speaker 3: I have.
Speaker 5: The bartender is the owner. We know each other. Every
Speaker 5: time I see him. He has my order ready to go,
Speaker 5: two cores lights and he puts in and ordered chili
Speaker 5: cheese fres like I've.
Speaker 4: Got it on lock and it's like that guy's cool.
Speaker 3: I want to be that guy that is like the
Speaker 3: coolest feeling when it's just like like when I lived
Speaker 3: in Northeast Minneapolis, I used to I lived right across
Speaker 3: in the Vegas Lounge, and I would just walk in
Speaker 3: there and Frank the bartender, would just walk up and
Speaker 3: just give me an ordies without me saying a word,
Speaker 3: and it's like, ah, hell yeah. Like it's it's fun
Speaker 3: to just have like your haunt, your place.
Speaker 5: It's good to have someone where everybody knows your name.
Speaker 2: You know. It feels a fire escape bar logo that
Speaker 2: would be the logical progression.
Speaker 3: Giant neon sign of a logo. That's sweet logo like
Speaker 3: the I love it and.
Speaker 4: It's just a little escape from our our lives.
Speaker 5: Anyway, I've completely avoided the question, but that's what I
Speaker 5: would like to do in Stardy Valley. I think if
Speaker 5: I was in Stardo, I would spend most of my time.
Speaker 4: At the bar.
Speaker 2: So you did answer the question.
Speaker 5: I think that I would actually like to see our
Speaker 5: farms before answering this question. It depends on if this
Speaker 5: question is like are you actually a farmer or who
Speaker 5: can game a five Stardy Valley the best because while
Speaker 5: I had a very good and successful farm, by the end,
Speaker 5: it wasn't super organized because that's not my jam.
Speaker 4: My jam isn't have.
Speaker 5: Like the perfect bins that are in succession in mid
Speaker 5: max every square ounce of my farm. That's not how
Speaker 5: I play. So I'd like to see your guys's farms
Speaker 5: before I make my answer.
Speaker 3: I had a lot of beer going on in my farm,
Speaker 3: like in the winters is when you could do the beer.
Speaker 3: And like I just my whole operation.
Speaker 4: Was just a really good in my bar.
Speaker 2: Let's just buy a town.
Speaker 3: Let's just do the like Dave Chappelle thing and buy
Speaker 3: a town and we'll just run everything.
Speaker 2: We'll have a farm.
Speaker 4: What would you do?
Speaker 1: I would actually do all the adult stuff that requires that,
Speaker 1: Like running a bar requires that you two don't think about.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you do the stuff.
Speaker 1: No, like everything like distribution cogs. Do you guys know
Speaker 1: what cogs stands for? No, that's your fucking deal. You
Speaker 1: need to hit thirty percent and you're good and you're
Speaker 1: making the right You deal with that.
Speaker 2: Exactly, you guys, Mary's taking shots. Let's know, you guys
Speaker 2: want me to run a bar, you too, Just want
Speaker 2: to drink. I'm playing with the dog.
Speaker 3: Mary's taken shots with the customers, like yeah, all yeah.
Speaker 2: Every day, she's the only She just keeps saying she's
Speaker 2: the owner, but she's actually not awesome.
Speaker 4: Yeah, we cannot get her to leave.
Speaker 1: That's the romance. I don't fucking know her. She's just
Speaker 1: here every day.
Speaker 2: She keeps saying I'll.
Speaker 1: Have the usual, but we don't know what that means
Speaker 1: because we have never served her the same thing twice.
Speaker 4: Uh yeah, talking all the dogs.
Speaker 5: He says he's a brewer, but I'm pretty sure he
Speaker 5: just makes enough beer for himself to trip.
Speaker 3: I just pay people to make the beer. Yeah, fair drinking.
Speaker 1: Uh Dan, you want to read this? Thank you, Stephanie. Dan,
Speaker 1: you want to read this one from Alex.
Speaker 3: Sure Mike was having a big old winge. Boy, you
Speaker 3: can just there's some words you can just tell someone
Speaker 3: in a different country, the big old winge about the
Speaker 3: hoops he had to jump through to watch Search party,
Speaker 3: and it reminded me of my most boomer take that
Speaker 3: broadcast TV, whilst not perfect, was the best content delivery platform.
Speaker 3: What is your boomer take? You won't move from? That
Speaker 3: is Alex in Australia. I mean mine that I just
Speaker 3: keep going deeper and deeper into is just hating social
Speaker 3: media and the Internet. And you know, it's like I
Speaker 3: keep moving further into it, you know, like I took
Speaker 3: that little like break from Blue Sky and it's still
Speaker 3: it's been like a month now, and I kept thinking
Speaker 3: I was gonna go back, and it's not missing it
Speaker 3: feeling better about it. So like I just I know
Speaker 3: it's a common topic and people not like you sort.
Speaker 4: Over social media too.
Speaker 3: For the record, TikTok like crazy, right.
Speaker 4: I think that they are consuming TikTok. But I think.
Speaker 5: The the trend that I am seeing is that there's
Speaker 5: no trust with social media with any generation right now
Speaker 5: because of AI or it should not be yeah yeah,
Speaker 5: And so it just doesn't feel honest.
Speaker 3: It's like, yeah, it's it's concerns about the content. It's
Speaker 3: also but like my thing is more just like mental health.
Speaker 3: I just think it's just like every here's the thing
Speaker 3: that I've I've gone back to, going back to like
Speaker 3: two thousand and nine when I started the game Informer,
Speaker 3: and it's always the people. And in this industry, there's
Speaker 3: so many people that are so tied to social media
Speaker 3: and their followings and they're back in the day their
Speaker 3: clout scorers and stuff like that. That like it's always
Speaker 3: the people that are the most online I have always
Speaker 3: found are the most miserable. The ones that are most
Speaker 3: tied in through Twitter at the time or TikTok now
Speaker 3: or whatever, the ones who are most invested in that
Speaker 3: are always the most miserable.
Speaker 2: People you've ever met.
Speaker 3: So it's like, there's it just seems like a very
Speaker 3: clear thing to me where it's like, engage in that
Speaker 3: stuff and make it your whole deal, and you're just
Speaker 3: gonna be a mess. And I just pull back all
Speaker 3: the time from it and want to pull back further
Speaker 3: and further and further, and it's only been good to
Speaker 3: pull back. So that's I know that makes me sound ancient,
Speaker 3: but like that's wair.
Speaker 2: We talked about that before and I won't belabor it.
Speaker 1: We we did dig into like how young people coming
Speaker 1: up in certain spaces and like as journalists sometimes need
Speaker 1: that's it's helpful to get their name out there and
Speaker 1: get work if you're a freelancer. It was pretty cool, yeah,
Speaker 1: but like one percent I went cold turkey. I think
Speaker 1: all three of us here are fortunate and we worked
Speaker 1: hard to get to where we were and we were
Speaker 1: able to just kind of well, at least again, i'd
Speaker 1: like pulled the bandit off and just except for Instagram,
Speaker 1: I don't use anything Instagram. I don't talk about games before.
Speaker 1: You guys know what I post on Instagram.
Speaker 2: It's just wine and food and uh like my cat
Speaker 2: yeah and cats.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah. I I one thousand percent agree with that.
Speaker 1: My my other this isn't really a boomer take. I
Speaker 1: don't think this is like I think people would agree.
Speaker 1: I think the movie theater is still the best way
Speaker 1: to watch a movie.
Speaker 2: Provider you.
Speaker 1: I will say, though, my boomer take is that I
Speaker 1: think one out of every five movies I go to
Speaker 1: actually has a good audience.
Speaker 3: Oh it's rare to have it, or just fucking yeah.
Speaker 2: People are just no. I mean, like I've maybe it's
Speaker 2: just because there's so many fucking people here. I've been to.
Speaker 1: Let's say I've seen twenty movies in the last five
Speaker 1: years in theaters. Well, that's obviously COVID happened. But like
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, just for the percent and wise,
Speaker 1: I'd say five of those there wasn't like extremely rude
Speaker 1: people somewhere in the theater.
Speaker 3: That might be depending on locate, because like we've seen
Speaker 3: more than that in the last five years, and like
Speaker 3: don't at least in Minnesota. I don't think we've ever
Speaker 3: had a bad experience in me.
Speaker 5: Every once in a while, we had a really bad
Speaker 5: one where we saw Mean Girls the musical.
Speaker 4: I don't know why we saw the theaters. I don't
Speaker 4: know why I did, but the people in front of
Speaker 4: us were making out the whole movie.
Speaker 2: On fine with that, I would like, I like that.
Speaker 5: Like full on in each other's throat. I understand that,
Speaker 5: Like I understand.
Speaker 4: That you can kiss. Like I'm not like the kiss Police.
Speaker 5: I'm just saying, like the whole time, it was like
Speaker 5: you could hear them making out, start fucking going say something.
Speaker 2: It was awkward.
Speaker 5: Like at some point I just had to just tap
Speaker 5: them on the shoulder and I said, this movie is
Speaker 5: almost over.
Speaker 4: You guys can go to town. Yeah, but it was ten
Speaker 4: more minutes.
Speaker 2: I've gone to a.
Speaker 1: Bunch of different theaters and I feel like, I just
Speaker 1: I think there's people who did not come up going
Speaker 1: to movie theaters once they like got old enough. Because
Speaker 1: they were either in quarantine or just like streaming services
Speaker 1: were allowing them to watch whatever they wanted at home.
Speaker 1: I think there's just not an etiquette there that we
Speaker 1: grew up with in movie theaters. And maybe I'm being
Speaker 1: a bit harsh with those percentages, Like maybe it was
Speaker 1: not as many, but like when I get a bad crowd,
Speaker 1: I'm like, oh God, I love the movie theater, but
Speaker 1: I do wish I was just watching this at home
Speaker 1: right now.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean there are certain movies that are fine
Speaker 3: if it's just some like kind of chilocky. Like if
Speaker 3: I'm seeing like a fast and furious movie in the theaters,
Speaker 3: I don't really give a shit of some But if
Speaker 3: I'm seeing like Bogonia or something, I'm not gonna want
Speaker 3: someone trying to like get their shit over and get
Speaker 3: some jokes in during the thing. It's like I hate
Speaker 3: that shit or exactly a completely unrelated conversation, so just.
Speaker 2: Just chatting loudly and their phones bright in front of us, Like.
Speaker 3: I mean that that was when I was in New
Speaker 3: York during that movie past era, Like that's when I
Speaker 3: remember seeing that frequently. And yeah, I don't know if
Speaker 3: it's just a New York thing.
Speaker 2: I try.
Speaker 1: I try to go to the theaters where I know
Speaker 1: people are gonna be cool, like The Angelica. Generally speaking,
Speaker 1: I'd say people who are going to The Angelica are
Speaker 1: really into movies and thus are cool in theaters then
Speaker 1: they're like the bigger AMCs and whatnot, where it's just
Speaker 1: like no holds barred.
Speaker 2: You don't know what you're gonna get.
Speaker 3: If you're seeing like a Paul Thomas Anderson movie, I
Speaker 3: doubt like would.
Speaker 2: Like, yeahoo's in there.
Speaker 1: Then I saw Alien that was the Romulus two years ago,
Speaker 1: and that was the worst I had to literally I had.
Speaker 2: It was a bunch of n YU students.
Speaker 1: I think I had to turn around be like shut
Speaker 1: the fuck up because they were shot. They were treading
Speaker 1: it at this volume in the intro and it's quiet
Speaker 1: and like building suspense and like shut the fuck up.
Speaker 1: And they were babies, so they didn't say anything back
Speaker 1: to me. And then like that that. At that point,
Speaker 1: it's like you're having a full on conversation. Go to
Speaker 1: the bar around the corner. Why did you pay to
Speaker 1: come in here?
Speaker 2: Mike?
Speaker 3: Were we that during Rainbow Last Blood in New York?
Speaker 2: No, like we were we were just a front row.
Speaker 1: We were in the front row, like go like getting
Speaker 1: really excited when things were happening.
Speaker 2: We were punching each other when we were excited.
Speaker 3: That was rocky. That was a creed. We've had several
Speaker 3: very drunk theaters.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but that was when the music was flaring and
Speaker 1: Christian like we're just getting.
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, no, no.
Speaker 1: These people are having full on conversation like loudly in
Speaker 1: the middle of the theater with their and oh oh
Speaker 1: flashing like the flashes on their phone, taking a photo
Speaker 1: the screen to post on social media. That's when I
Speaker 1: was like, I was, yeah, the theater, Oh yeah, I was.
Speaker 1: And that was the the what was the name of
Speaker 1: the theater. That was a theater that like again they
Speaker 1: show like Stalker every few months, like like Tarkowski movies
Speaker 1: like that. That is a theater that cares about movies.
Speaker 1: And I was surprised to have that happen there. But anyway,
Speaker 1: that's my uh. I don't know if that's a boomer take,
Speaker 1: it's just a boomer rant. No, I.
Speaker 2: Fully agree, very what's yours.
Speaker 4: I'll never go back to low rise jeans.
Speaker 5: You can't make me high rise jeans for life.
Speaker 3: So is low rise because I don't know anything. My
Speaker 3: passion is low rise. Okay, so there's like the belly.
Speaker 2: Button and then you go down.
Speaker 3: Like two inches. Wait, so if if if the line
Speaker 3: of the jeans or the pants or whatever is at
Speaker 3: the belly button, that's midrise.
Speaker 2: Hollister, think Hollister jeans. That means Fitz jeans.
Speaker 3: I just went jeans.
Speaker 1: If you're looking at an ad for like a clothing
Speaker 1: store in two thousand and six, I guarantee.
Speaker 2: The women are all wearing low rise jeans.
Speaker 3: Just look up low like Christina Aguilera in the early
Speaker 3: two thousands were like her jeans are like above her.
Speaker 4: Like barely cuban that to come out that low.
Speaker 2: Rise high went under the clip to show the clip.
Speaker 2: Oh god, love.
Speaker 3: Set settle down Like so high rise is more of
Speaker 3: a Is that like a mom Jean thing?
Speaker 2: No?
Speaker 1: Oh high rise Yeah, No, high rise are back, like
Speaker 1: gen Z loves them.
Speaker 2: The nineties fashions are back now.
Speaker 3: Mary loves the soundboard.
Speaker 2: I love that.
Speaker 1: If you were just listening, you the thing I said
Speaker 1: for real was as weird as the thing that was
Speaker 1: on the soundboard.
Speaker 2: Kind of Oh my god. M yeah, you know, low
Speaker 2: rise jeans when you see him. So what is the
Speaker 2: current trend? Is it higher? But I think what I'm just.
Speaker 5: Saying is is like my boomer tank take is like
Speaker 5: I don't care what's in fashion.
Speaker 4: I'll never wear that. Uh it might be a millennial take,
Speaker 4: so I'll try and think of an older take than that.
Speaker 5: But like my boomer take is like I ain't going back,
Speaker 5: like I'll never I won't do it.
Speaker 4: I don't want to do Are they coming back ever again? Oh?
Speaker 4: The kids are changing it up all over the place.
Speaker 2: I Oh, yeah, I didn't talk about plants.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm still talking about pants down. I'll let you
Speaker 4: know when we're when we've moved on.
Speaker 3: We're still in pants town.
Speaker 2: Okay, Yeah, we're in crotch City. Yeah, I know.
Speaker 1: I I also, I really really make no effort to
Speaker 1: chase trends with how I dress.
Speaker 5: I think in general, Yeah, I struggle with that. I
Speaker 5: will try, but I can't try with low rise.
Speaker 2: Uh.
Speaker 5: Sometimes I say, uh, when I mean to search something,
Speaker 5: I say google it, And I think that's kind of
Speaker 5: a boom boom.
Speaker 3: Do kids not boom google?
Speaker 4: No?
Speaker 5: I mean I think they google things, but I don't
Speaker 5: think they say I'm going to go google it like work.
Speaker 2: Huh. I guess I never like even paid attention. They
Speaker 2: oh they say to I TBT.
Speaker 5: Probably they probably say like go look it up or something,
Speaker 5: But I say google it because I've been trained to
Speaker 5: google things since I was fourteen, and now I don't
Speaker 5: know any better.
Speaker 3: I am starting to come around on like what Alex
Speaker 3: from TROYA says. Here, we're the whole thing of like
Speaker 3: broadcast TV like it. There was the heyday of like
Speaker 3: oh we got Netflix, we got Hulu.
Speaker 2: This is great.
Speaker 3: It's got all this stuff, like you know, all this stuff.
Speaker 3: I want to see it on these couple of things
Speaker 3: like nowadays it is like, look, I'm never gonna fucking
Speaker 3: get Paramount. Plus I'm never gonna get Disney whatever. I'm
Speaker 3: not going like. And so it does suck when there's
Speaker 3: just things that you don't know how to watch.
Speaker 1: I am an NBA fan. It's the one sport I
Speaker 1: still truly care about. I try to watch as many
Speaker 1: Warriors games as possible. I know I was winging about
Speaker 1: Search Party. I being an NBA viewer on any given night,
Speaker 1: and these are eighty five game seasons you need to
Speaker 1: one night it's on Peacock. The other night, it is
Speaker 1: on ESPN the other night, it's on HBO. Another night
Speaker 1: it's on You need Fubo or Sling or.
Speaker 2: Which are all Like.
Speaker 1: All they're doing is giving you the same packages broadcast
Speaker 1: like satellite TV. They're just eighty dollars a month for
Speaker 1: this for everything you could ever want to watch. However,
Speaker 1: then NBC Sports Bay Area has the exclusive rights to
Speaker 1: some of these Warriors games. And this is my fault
Speaker 1: for being a fan of a West Coast team when
Speaker 1: I live in New York. But I can't watch those
Speaker 1: because it's blacked out. So I've resorted to other means,
Speaker 1: and I don't feel bad about it, but oh my
Speaker 1: fucking god, Adam Silver, the commissioner, is just a He's
Speaker 1: making my viewing experience so miserable, and I will never
Speaker 1: forgive him.
Speaker 2: I mean, I will say.
Speaker 3: The thing that is universally positive is the idea of
Speaker 3: being able to just on demand, you know, like easily,
Speaker 3: Like you don't have to You're not programming a fucking
Speaker 3: VCR to record your show or whatever. You can just
Speaker 3: load it up and you can play it. But the
Speaker 3: beauty of a like cable subscription back in the day
Speaker 3: was like, Okay, you're gonna pay a lot, you're gonna
Speaker 3: pay one hundred plus dollars a month probably, but you'll
Speaker 3: have everything. Everything you need is there. You got the
Speaker 3: HBO plan, you got all the shows you want to
Speaker 3: see are there. And now it's just it's so piecemeal
Speaker 3: that and it's so spread out that like in those
Speaker 3: early you know, two thousand and eight, two thousand nine
Speaker 3: days or whatever, when it was just kind of Netflix
Speaker 3: and Hulu, that was great. But now it's just like
Speaker 3: everything's on everything, and it also gets traded around between things,
Speaker 3: so it's like, wait, I used to be able to
Speaker 3: watch this on this and now who has the rights
Speaker 3: to this now? And you google it and you see
Speaker 3: a fucking article but it's outdated now, and you know
Speaker 3: your Apple TV is supposed to tell you what the
Speaker 3: thing is. But it's it's so much more complicated now,
Speaker 3: and I don't know if you're really saving that much money.
Speaker 3: I do like being able to just on demand watch everything,
Speaker 3: but I think it is worse.
Speaker 5: There's some misowning things, like I hate that when I
Speaker 5: want to watch a movie, I'm renting it for forty
Speaker 5: eight hours. Like I liked buying things and having them.
Speaker 1: Or if you buy it, you own like a digital
Speaker 1: version of it that if in some worst case scenario
Speaker 1: something goes wrong, you could just lose it and not
Speaker 1: it's not in your house.
Speaker 3: Is this a boomer thing that? Like I still buy
Speaker 3: a ton of four K Blu rays, Like do you
Speaker 3: guys do?
Speaker 2: Yes?
Speaker 1: Okay, I do every once in a while for ones
Speaker 1: I really like. I just collector's aspect.
Speaker 3: Yeah, not even just collector's aspect, Like if I'm going
Speaker 3: to watch something like the quality is better off going
Speaker 3: off of streaming, and it's like going up and down
Speaker 3: depending on the bandwidth or whatever, Like, Okay, I've got
Speaker 3: a disc I'm putting in my PS five. It's going
Speaker 3: to be the best possible quality. It's gonna have the
Speaker 3: at most, it's gonna have all that stuff. Like any
Speaker 3: movie I really like, I try to buy on four K.
Speaker 1: I would do that more often if I have more space,
Speaker 1: But yes, I do that when I really I see
Speaker 1: a movie on streaming them, I really fucking like that.
Speaker 1: I know we're going to rewatch it. I want to
Speaker 1: get the Blu ray as like a collector's item or
Speaker 1: something like that.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: I probably have more that are not come to mind
Speaker 1: right now, but I think we've sufficiently covered the question.
Speaker 4: I mean, that's so many boomer things.
Speaker 2: I probably have a lot.
Speaker 3: I have a lot of boomer stuff.
Speaker 1: Yeah, thank you Alex again. Uh okay, so this one
Speaker 1: I didn't read the whole thing. Basically, there's a character
Speaker 1: on Survivor Australia named Mark Wales that Caitlin, who wrote
Speaker 1: in claims I.
Speaker 2: Look a lot alike.
Speaker 3: Look him up.
Speaker 2: It's it's Mark Wales, Australia Survivor.
Speaker 3: Mark Wales, like the country I believe, so Survivor. I
Speaker 3: don't see if it looks like you. Let's see. Oh,
Speaker 3: this guy's way more Jack than you, Mark Wales. Yeah,
Speaker 3: this guy is Oh my god, this is like a
Speaker 3: Pokemon evolution of Mike Marty.
Speaker 2: Yeah. I think they showed a photo of his face. Yeah,
Speaker 2: oh this is crazy.
Speaker 3: Yeah, this is a way more Jack to Mike Maarty.
Speaker 4: Oh man did he win?
Speaker 3: Uh?
Speaker 2: Oh in the face? I could I see it sort
Speaker 2: of see.
Speaker 4: It even there.
Speaker 5: This guy's chin is like as big as his body,
Speaker 5: Like it.
Speaker 3: Is so the like this is like a bj Blaskawitz
Speaker 3: like Olfenstein guy.
Speaker 2: This guy is sort of saying he does look like
Speaker 2: a video game character.
Speaker 5: He looks like they ran out of polygons to make
Speaker 5: him and so they just made his head a square.
Speaker 1: But anyway, they use that as a preface to ask
Speaker 1: this question. They explain the rules of Australia Survivor. I
Speaker 1: think it's the same as the normal one, but here's
Speaker 1: the question. There are three main elements that production claims
Speaker 1: are essential to win Survivor a lot of times the
Speaker 1: popularity contest. However, the three main elements are outplay and outlast.
Speaker 1: Kind of self explanatory, but basically, outwit means you strategically
Speaker 1: beat everyone. Outplay lends favor to advantages or challenge wins,
Speaker 1: and outlast means you simply last longer than your adversaries.
Speaker 1: Australia Survivor is set in various locations into Australia for
Speaker 1: around fifty days. You'll be surviving largely on the elements
Speaker 1: for this amount of time. This would be in phishing, foraging,
Speaker 1: competition and challenges, and being socially adept. My question for
Speaker 1: you all is which of these three themes do you
Speaker 1: think each of you would be best at. Who do
Speaker 1: you think would win if all three of you were
Speaker 1: on a season at the same time, Caitlin, So the
Speaker 1: three being outwit, outlast, outplay out strategy and like like
Speaker 1: Sutter few.
Speaker 4: When you're the most strategic of us.
Speaker 3: But Mike, yeah, but video would be better the physical stuff.
Speaker 3: I think, like I couldn't necessarily do the physical stuff.
Speaker 3: I think the social element I could do very well.
Speaker 4: Have you seen the physical stuff? Sometimes it's like, who's
Speaker 4: gonna stand on this pole the longest?
Speaker 5: Hmmm, maybe that's outlast, but it's like that was one
Speaker 5: of the challenges I saw, and it was just like,
Speaker 5: here's a pole, it's not very wide, you have to
Speaker 5: stand on it, and if you fall into the water,
Speaker 5: you're out.
Speaker 4: And then they made them stand there for like fucking
Speaker 4: six hours.
Speaker 3: I've done a lot of fifty turned Mario Parties.
Speaker 1: This does sound like Mario Party because they're talking about
Speaker 1: out playing someone in challenges while you outlast them, and
Speaker 1: also there is the social element of Mario Party.
Speaker 2: Did Mario Party? Did Survivor just copy Mario Party? Or
Speaker 2: vice versa? Should I watch Survivor? You probably love it?
Speaker 2: On season like sixty, I think.
Speaker 4: No, No.
Speaker 2: I think Mary would be the one to.
Speaker 1: Charm her way through, which would be out witting Dan,
Speaker 1: I think more than Mary.
Speaker 2: The fact you say that show we're assuming.
Speaker 4: There's other people, right, Like, it's not just.
Speaker 2: Us, there's like twelve people or whatever.
Speaker 5: I think I could rally people to make Dan the
Speaker 5: victim quite easily.
Speaker 3: The way the way Bank always puts it is that
Speaker 3: like my speechcraft skill is just like at a million
Speaker 3: out of ten, you know, So it's like I think
Speaker 3: that is where I would do very well.
Speaker 2: And I disagree vehemently on this.
Speaker 3: I never disagree with and loves you in so many circumstances,
Speaker 3: like maybe here I would be really good to the
Speaker 3: outwit the social element, but yeah, any of the physical stuff,
Speaker 3: I think I would be the least of us three.
Speaker 5: You imagine a fucking Survivor challenge where it's a spelling
Speaker 5: bee and Dan's just like fuck yeah yeah, But most
Speaker 5: of the time it's like hang from this bar and
Speaker 5: you're like.
Speaker 2: Uh oh, I'm not doing it? Is that how play?
Speaker 1: Would be the challenges I think I could outlast, which
Speaker 1: I guess both of those would be kind of a
Speaker 1: physical element, but m.
Speaker 2: For each of us, Yeah, I would think.
Speaker 3: I would be out last I think Mary would be
Speaker 3: out play and I'd be out wit.
Speaker 2: I think Mary be outwit. I think you'd be out play.
Speaker 4: I think you'd be out like you'd get out d.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Now, Dan, you're very lucky.
Speaker 1: I think you could pick up your very You play
Speaker 1: so many games that you're good at picking up rules
Speaker 1: really quickly and figuring out how to maneuver through them
Speaker 1: and exploit them. I think you would understand the challenges
Speaker 1: really quickly and see where the seams are, like they
Speaker 1: all be a mini sexuality.
Speaker 5: The challenges are puzzles, like you'd be able to like
Speaker 5: figure out like how you just get all the really
Speaker 5: should have told you, guys, I say, puzzles, puzzles.
Speaker 4: Now you have to of the puzzle around. I could
Speaker 4: always say, I think.
Speaker 1: You would see the meta of the challenge really quickly
Speaker 1: because you play so many games and are really well
Speaker 1: versed in just OK.
Speaker 4: I agree, we also got to give you something.
Speaker 1: I think, thank you, I've had the boring.
Speaker 4: There you go, Dan, We're proud of you.
Speaker 2: But I've never had a problem lasting really long.
Speaker 4: I actually my problem too.
Speaker 5: I don't think I could outlast if like bugs came
Speaker 5: after me, I'd be I think I would.
Speaker 4: Like want to leave. I don't like bugs. I don't
Speaker 4: like get eaten alive.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't think any of us would win. To
Speaker 1: be clear, I would. I would say my wine fridge
Speaker 1: is on day two.
Speaker 2: No, I'm Joe.
Speaker 1: That's just me being a caricature. I don't think you
Speaker 1: could win Survivor, Dan. I don't think you truly understand
Speaker 1: what they do on the show.
Speaker 3: I don't know what the show is, so I've not
Speaker 3: really seen it.
Speaker 2: But I do generally think I could win anything.
Speaker 4: Sure, win.
Speaker 1: You get voted off basically, and you with you win challenges,
Speaker 1: you get immunity. Your only hope would be winning the
Speaker 1: challenges and getting immunity, because I do feel like.
Speaker 3: I wouldn't be like a heel to people on the
Speaker 3: island like I would. I would understand that was an
Speaker 3: element and it's not be a ship unlikable.
Speaker 5: I think someone they would recognize because you have to
Speaker 5: be a helper, you like, help other people set up
Speaker 5: the camp or are you going to set up your
Speaker 5: own camp.
Speaker 3: I don't not do any of that ship exactly to
Speaker 3: help me.
Speaker 2: I don't yeah over here.
Speaker 5: And then and then they'd all be sitting around the
Speaker 5: fire starving because they don't give you any fucking food
Speaker 5: unless you win the challenge. So if you lose the challenge,
Speaker 5: everyone's hungry and miserable, and you'd be there being like
Speaker 5: I did my part.
Speaker 3: I'd sneak in and steal the food to the other camp. Yeah,
Speaker 3: it's huge, and then I'd bring it back and I'd
Speaker 3: be the hero in my camp and no one's voted me.
Speaker 3: I would.
Speaker 2: Then there are.
Speaker 5: Evil people that have done well. They have like succeeded.
Speaker 5: I don't watch too much Survivor, but I have seen
Speaker 5: the first season. I remember it vividly that like the
Speaker 5: lady who made it, everybody will.
Speaker 4: A couple ladies hated.
Speaker 5: Her at the end because she, you know, sacrificed them
Speaker 5: and so they were like basically like if you were
Speaker 5: thirsty and I had water and we were in a desert,
Speaker 5: I wouldn't give you a drink. Like they're so mad
Speaker 5: at her for what she did because she like crossed them.
Speaker 4: You have to cross people in the game. You have
Speaker 4: to like trick them and.
Speaker 5: Be like we have an ally, and I'd be like,
Speaker 5: I'd go to you and I'd be like you and
Speaker 5: I we are in like cahoots and we won't vote
Speaker 5: each other off, right, And you'd be like yes, and
Speaker 5: I'd shake your hand.
Speaker 4: I'd look you in the eye and then I to
Speaker 4: Mike and I'd be like, we gotta get Dan.
Speaker 3: Out, man, I'm talking about this. I feel like I
Speaker 3: got to start a campaign to get me on Survivor
Speaker 3: for real.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that would be good. Forever challenge Dan
Speaker 2: belly flops into a shark pool and just.
Speaker 4: Get he doesn't deserve to win.
Speaker 5: I do think there is a I'm not going to
Speaker 5: get about your silver tongue, but I will say that
Speaker 5: there is a damn factor in which you have like
Speaker 5: slip slopped your way into success so many times that
Speaker 5: sometimes I'm like, maybe he will just fan dangle himself
Speaker 5: to like win a couple of challenges at the right
Speaker 5: time and get pretty far.
Speaker 3: I'm going to look into this. I want to be
Speaker 3: on Survivor.
Speaker 2: You have to send in audition tapes and whatnot. I
Speaker 2: could do that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I know it's I had to make a video
Speaker 1: for Taco Bell. That's what I'm saying you Taylor made
Speaker 1: for it. I would just use the zip line. That
Speaker 1: would be my entire motive. I don't think I'll go
Speaker 1: far in this Survivor again. I think I would maybe
Speaker 1: make it past a couple of days, but then by
Speaker 1: that day there I would I don't want to be
Speaker 1: around humans to begin with that much in close quarters,
Speaker 1: let alone on an island where we don't have that
Speaker 1: much food.
Speaker 2: And I'm grumpy.
Speaker 3: God, I I am now just thinking about this, and
Speaker 3: I super want this.
Speaker 2: Dance. I want.
Speaker 3: I want to be on Survitor.
Speaker 1: You should watch some Survivor first, you should watch some Yeah,
Speaker 1: it feels strategy.
Speaker 4: Is that I've never seen an episode of Survivor.
Speaker 2: Let's go Sudden Rock and you have to fight a lion.
Speaker 1: That happened nothing, who ever died on all the time
Speaker 1: they do the first I don't think they have with food.
Speaker 4: They starve you.
Speaker 5: They starve you and you're so hungry. You have as
Speaker 5: a whole table of fried chicken, and you only get
Speaker 5: it if you like win the challenge, and then you
Speaker 5: get to pick one Like let's say you don't win,
Speaker 5: and so there's like ten people who are starving and
Speaker 5: one person who won, and then they'll say you get
Speaker 5: to pick one friend. And the way they do it
Speaker 5: is they like pit people against each other. She'll be like,
Speaker 5: I told you to pick me. I told you I
Speaker 5: was hungry.
Speaker 3: I know I would be friends some like grips on
Speaker 3: the crew and then they would like, I want some
Speaker 3: of that chicken in the in the middle of the night.
Speaker 1: Give me yeah on the ground, just one.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: This is why I think I can get out of prison.
Speaker 3: This is how I would be out of prison. It's
Speaker 3: just befriending people and stuff like that. And help me
Speaker 3: out here, you know.
Speaker 4: First to be shanked on Survivor.
Speaker 2: And then thrown over the ray into the end of
Speaker 2: the yard.
Speaker 3: I want this.
Speaker 4: I want this.
Speaker 2: Uh.
Speaker 1: Well, thank you, Caitlin. I think we settled. I think
Speaker 1: we all arrived at the logical conclusions there. Uh that
Speaker 1: is our episode. That's fire Escape Cast at gmail dot com.
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Speaker 3: Giant Bomb and giant bomb dot com. Check out the site,
Speaker 3: Chuck Chuck Tawski. Rebuild the site. It is fantastic now.
Speaker 3: It's doing a lot of fun stuff there. Also, like
Speaker 3: I said earlier, I think I am gonna maybe try
Speaker 3: to start streaming more on my personal twitch doing sick.
Speaker 3: I keep wanting to say Sectory.
Speaker 1: See I can't want to say Secura every time we're
Speaker 1: talking about it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I do want to play Securo. So maybe
Speaker 3: by the time this episode comes out. Maybe I've already started,
Speaker 3: so keep an eye on those VODs and stuff like that.
Speaker 3: But I think I want to play securo.
Speaker 2: Let me let me know when you do. I might
Speaker 2: tune in to just check in every once in a while.
Speaker 3: It'll be Dan Reiker to own twitch.
Speaker 2: Mary, what do you have going on?
Speaker 4: Same thing as always.
Speaker 5: I stream most of the time when I can on
Speaker 5: Mondays on Twitch.
Speaker 4: I bowl on Tuesdays. I podcast on Wednesdays. I'm a
Speaker 4: busy girl.
Speaker 2: Nice, where can we watch you bowl? I'm just kidding,
Speaker 2: don't know.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I wish, I maybe I should. I would like
Speaker 5: actually to stream one of our balls. I will admit
Speaker 5: to everyone though I'm not very good, but my average
Speaker 5: has slowly climbed from one hundred to one hundred and
Speaker 5: twenty five.
Speaker 1: Oh you weren't kidding, you suck, I'm joking. I don't
Speaker 1: know bowling scores.
Speaker 5: Actually, if you bowl in a league, you should be
Speaker 5: at one sixty for sure.
Speaker 4: I think it's weird to bowl lower than one fifty.
Speaker 5: We are probably the worst league team in the league,
Speaker 5: but we don't care.
Speaker 2: Because double penetration to That's what I've wanted. The name.
Speaker 2: Oh wait, no, it's the pensy low hands.
Speaker 4: Right, Yeah, we're not.
Speaker 2: Double penetration is really good.
Speaker 5: Double penetration was the name I wanted it to be,
Speaker 5: but that was denied.
Speaker 4: So we are the pensy low hands.
Speaker 2: That's good.
Speaker 4: That's good, thank you. And I think it would have
Speaker 4: been called full penetration.
Speaker 2: Oh, full penetration is good. I don't know which ones
Speaker 2: more A.
Speaker 4: Little bit far down the goon hole, but yeah, it's pretty.
Speaker 2: Bad turkey penetration.
Speaker 1: I have only bowled a few times. I don't know
Speaker 1: how the scoring works. I know I got like a
Speaker 1: two hundred and ninety, but that's all I know. But
Speaker 1: that's about no. I actually am weirdly. I'm decent at
Speaker 1: bowling for not bowling much.
Speaker 3: I can score by hand. That's the one college class
Speaker 3: I went to.
Speaker 2: Score by hand? How else ye throw the fucking ball,
Speaker 2: you weirdo? In between you right, a little pencil a
Speaker 2: X or asparea. Yeah, how does it work? Isn't it?
Speaker 6: Well?
Speaker 2: We didn't know? This is boring thing to get into now.
Speaker 1: It's like you add if you get a strike, you
Speaker 1: add ten to the previous one. If you get another strike,
Speaker 1: you had ten to get a strike. Let's say you
Speaker 1: get a strike on the first frame. Very first roll,
Speaker 1: you get a strike, you were getting ten guaranteed, and
Speaker 1: then you were adding the next two frames, so that
Speaker 1: can be a two to in a seven. But then
Speaker 1: you also get that two and a seven from the
Speaker 1: second frame. But let's say you get that's where like
Speaker 1: turkeys and stuff like that. Yeah, it matter because like
Speaker 1: strike strike strike, Well that first strike is worth thirty,
Speaker 1: the second one is worth at least twenty, and then
Speaker 1: whatever the next frame is, you know, so it's like
Speaker 1: it kind of like doubles up on each other in
Speaker 1: a way. So yeah, again, I don't I didn't know
Speaker 1: how to score. I know I got four turkeys in
Speaker 1: one game, but pretty cool.
Speaker 2: What is it fifteen frames? It's ten frames, ten frames.
Speaker 2: I don't think four turkeys as possible.
Speaker 1: No, not in one game unless you get all strikes
Speaker 1: and then you just count like that's just overlapping turkeys.
Speaker 2: That's just a three turkey. Yeah, what is a group?
Speaker 2: What is a group of turkeys called?
Speaker 1: There's always a weird name for gaggles, a gaggle, So
Speaker 1: I would get like a gaggle is all strikes as
Speaker 1: a gaggle I've done a gaggle before. I went three
Speaker 1: hundred and people were freaking out and congratulating me.
Speaker 2: I just didn't understand it. I was like, that was easy.
Speaker 1: We'll be back in a couple of weeks with episode
Speaker 1: one hundred and twenty five, quarter of away to our
Speaker 1: two hundredth episode. That's a long ways out. I don't
Speaker 1: want to do the math. That's like three years from now.
Speaker 3: We'll be back with.
Speaker 2: That one, Dana, Mary, thanks for joining. Everybody.
Speaker 1: It was listening and watching. Thanks for joining as always,
Speaker 1: We'll see in a couple of weeks.
Speaker 2: Bye bye s