WEBVTT 1 00:00:21.079 --> 00:00:24.920 Okay, I've gotten through the jet lag. It's been over 2 00:00:24.960 --> 00:00:27.839 a week now since we've come back from since I've 3 00:00:27.920 --> 00:00:32.679 come back from Turkey, and I am getting back on board. 4 00:00:34.200 --> 00:00:38.600 And I gotta say, Turkey is a fabulous country to visit. 5 00:00:39.359 --> 00:00:42.920 And this was the first time we did the Grand 6 00:00:43.039 --> 00:00:46.759 Turkey Tour with a great group of people. There were 7 00:00:46.840 --> 00:00:52.600 some highs and lows. We had a a new tour 8 00:00:52.679 --> 00:00:58.679 guide who didn't understand our reluctance to do a great 9 00:00:58.719 --> 00:01:03.119 deal of walking and one hundred degree heat and so, 10 00:01:03.479 --> 00:01:06.920 but everybody was great. Met some new people, met some 11 00:01:07.000 --> 00:01:11.000 old friends. And those of you listening, you guys rocked. 12 00:01:11.040 --> 00:01:15.439 You really did. You were fantastic, and I believe to 13 00:01:15.519 --> 00:01:20.439 a person, everyone enjoyed the tour. I want to mention 14 00:01:20.560 --> 00:01:26.560 also that Turkey surprisingly is very very produced oriented. They 15 00:01:26.840 --> 00:01:32.519 grow fruits and vegetables and seeds and nuts, and they 16 00:01:32.599 --> 00:01:35.480 even grow wine grapes, and this was a very big 17 00:01:35.519 --> 00:01:38.079 shock to me. They We did a wine tasting at 18 00:01:38.120 --> 00:01:44.280 one of the monasteries we visited, and surprisingly the wine 19 00:01:44.319 --> 00:01:47.599 was who was superb. I even brought a bottle of 20 00:01:47.640 --> 00:01:50.799 white to bring back with me when it's hot, when 21 00:01:50.840 --> 00:01:54.680 it's over one hundred degrees. A cool wine was good, 22 00:01:54.680 --> 00:01:56.480 so they had a chardonnay, and they had a couple 23 00:01:56.719 --> 00:02:03.480 souvignon blancs that I tried and they were excellent. So 24 00:02:04.079 --> 00:02:11.280 they are They're producing some varietals, some grapes that are outstanding, 25 00:02:11.759 --> 00:02:14.759 and this was a surprise to me. The other thing 26 00:02:15.520 --> 00:02:20.680 is it's a very highly educated country and their exports 27 00:02:20.719 --> 00:02:24.680 are over a trillion dollars, and this is I mean, 28 00:02:24.759 --> 00:02:28.520 it leads to great satisfaction. People had smiles on their face. 29 00:02:29.080 --> 00:02:32.759 This was the first time I had been to Turkey, 30 00:02:32.919 --> 00:02:37.159 and we were in Istanbul for a day, a couple 31 00:02:37.240 --> 00:02:42.639 of days. Wonderful city, bustling like anything you see in 32 00:02:42.680 --> 00:02:46.319 the Western cultures. Could be a page out of the 33 00:02:46.439 --> 00:02:51.719 United States or in England, France, Germany, wherever. It is 34 00:02:51.759 --> 00:02:57.800 a very industrialized, sophisticated country. And I was pleasantly surprised 35 00:02:58.560 --> 00:03:01.879 and we enjoyed our Now I am going to be 36 00:03:01.919 --> 00:03:05.319 posting a number of photographs. I've already posted a series 37 00:03:05.360 --> 00:03:08.919 of galleries on the Facebook page. The first one was 38 00:03:08.960 --> 00:03:13.879 of Carahan Teppe, not necessarily the locations because we were 39 00:03:13.919 --> 00:03:17.319 restricted in taking photos of the recent digs. And we 40 00:03:18.560 --> 00:03:23.800 got there and they were actually excavating part of it. 41 00:03:23.960 --> 00:03:26.840 We got a chance to get up close and personal. 42 00:03:26.919 --> 00:03:33.039 But the local museums have an outstanding collection of artifacts 43 00:03:33.520 --> 00:03:36.560 and I've posted one of these on the Facebook page. 44 00:03:36.599 --> 00:03:39.759 If you go to Facebook, go to Earth Ancients. I 45 00:03:39.840 --> 00:03:44.879 have the international and the group page. Both have galleries. 46 00:03:46.080 --> 00:03:49.479 And then we had a chance to go to darren Kuru, 47 00:03:49.520 --> 00:03:52.439 the Underground City, and that was that was an eye 48 00:03:52.439 --> 00:03:56.080 opener and there's some really unique features to this place, 49 00:03:56.599 --> 00:03:58.879 and I want to mention this. This is something that 50 00:03:59.319 --> 00:04:04.000 is really hard to explain. I have issues with claustrophobia, 51 00:04:04.120 --> 00:04:07.560 and I've just bit my lip and gone through different 52 00:04:07.560 --> 00:04:12.439 tunnels systems in pyramids and in Mexico we were under 53 00:04:12.479 --> 00:04:18.959 the tunnel of the Serpent Pyramid. But at Darren Curru 54 00:04:19.560 --> 00:04:23.959 you drop down different levels through small passages that are 55 00:04:24.000 --> 00:04:28.800 cut out of solid bedrock. And as you see these photographs, 56 00:04:28.879 --> 00:04:33.199 you can see you can envision getting a little nervous 57 00:04:33.240 --> 00:04:36.439 as you're in a group and you're dropping down to 58 00:04:38.040 --> 00:04:46.879 you know, deeper levels into the dwelling. And so some 59 00:04:46.959 --> 00:04:50.199 of the photographs that I have of Darren Curru show this, 60 00:04:51.160 --> 00:04:54.920 but they also show these vents and this is what 61 00:04:55.120 --> 00:05:00.079 is fascinating about this location. They engineered a way to 62 00:05:00.120 --> 00:05:03.639 get fresh air down to some of the lowest levels. 63 00:05:03.639 --> 00:05:05.560 And I got to tell you, if somebody who has 64 00:05:05.600 --> 00:05:10.480 issues around craft spaces with lots of people, that fresh 65 00:05:10.519 --> 00:05:15.480 air makes a huge psychological difference. And whoever built Darren 66 00:05:15.560 --> 00:05:22.240 Curru understood this dynamic. And these vents bring in fresh 67 00:05:22.360 --> 00:05:25.240 air that's cool in some manner. I mean, we were 68 00:05:25.279 --> 00:05:27.360 there and it must have been in the high nineties, 69 00:05:27.839 --> 00:05:31.720 perhaps closer to one hundred degrees and we started our 70 00:05:31.759 --> 00:05:35.720 descent with our guide into darrenk Curu and I was 71 00:05:35.759 --> 00:05:38.319 looking at this as we were squeezing our way down 72 00:05:38.439 --> 00:05:40.839 into the first level, and I was thinking, I don't 73 00:05:40.879 --> 00:05:44.000 know how far I can go because I don't like 74 00:05:44.480 --> 00:05:47.040 to be squeezed and have the roof collapse on me. 75 00:05:47.639 --> 00:05:55.040 But it's not made for temporary use. Apparently people lived 76 00:05:55.959 --> 00:06:01.319 decades in these chambers and they're very sophisticated in many 77 00:06:01.399 --> 00:06:05.120 levels and other level and others and for some maybe 78 00:06:05.199 --> 00:06:10.800 not so much. But it was an experience and I appreciated. 79 00:06:11.439 --> 00:06:13.839 You got to see the photographs of how they carve this. 80 00:06:13.959 --> 00:06:17.079 And this is something that's very strange about Turkey is 81 00:06:17.120 --> 00:06:20.800 that Darren k Cureu's floor is cut out of bedrock, 82 00:06:20.839 --> 00:06:24.199 but it's smooth, like they've poured cement. We see the 83 00:06:24.240 --> 00:06:28.839 same thing at go Beckley Teppe, at Carahan Teppe, and 84 00:06:28.879 --> 00:06:33.279 a lot of these outdoor Neolithic sites. They've dug down 85 00:06:33.759 --> 00:06:38.120 into the bedrock and they've smoothed and chipped away at 86 00:06:38.120 --> 00:06:40.199 the floor, so it's almost like you're walking on a 87 00:06:40.240 --> 00:06:45.439 cement pathway. They must have just spent man hours going 88 00:06:45.480 --> 00:06:49.680 through and doing this. So fantastic. We're gonna be doing 89 00:06:49.720 --> 00:06:52.879 this again. I'm hoping in the next year or two 90 00:06:53.480 --> 00:06:56.439 this is gonna be a regular tour for us. I'd 91 00:06:56.480 --> 00:06:59.160 like to go at another time other than August because 92 00:06:59.160 --> 00:07:02.800 it's very, very high. But I'll tell you the museums 93 00:07:02.839 --> 00:07:08.879 alone are world class. The sites are world class, and 94 00:07:09.240 --> 00:07:14.720 the food, the atmosphere and the people are very engaging, 95 00:07:14.879 --> 00:07:19.240 very friendly, and it's a place not to miss. If 96 00:07:19.279 --> 00:07:22.680 you can go and see these sites, you should try 97 00:07:22.680 --> 00:07:25.759 to come, either with Earth Ancients or with other groups. 98 00:07:26.040 --> 00:07:28.040 I'll say this, if you come with Earth Ancients, you're 99 00:07:28.040 --> 00:07:31.680 gonna get the best price ever, because we negotiate, we 100 00:07:32.800 --> 00:07:35.959 work at our numbers so that you can get there 101 00:07:36.439 --> 00:07:39.319 and then enjoy it without spending a mortgage of a home, 102 00:07:39.720 --> 00:07:42.920 because it can. Some of these tours are crazy. So 103 00:07:42.959 --> 00:07:49.439 the first annual Grand Turkey Tour was a success. And 104 00:07:49.720 --> 00:07:51.480 if you want to see the photographs, you need to 105 00:07:51.519 --> 00:07:56.160 go to Facebook, go to Earth Ancients, look at Darren Kuru, 106 00:07:56.600 --> 00:07:59.759 look at go Beckley Teppe, look at the figures of 107 00:08:00.079 --> 00:08:03.879 karahand Teppy. And as a note, in the next I 108 00:08:03.879 --> 00:08:07.800 think thirty days, we're gonna have author Andrew Collins who's 109 00:08:07.920 --> 00:08:11.040 just finished a book on karahand Teppy, and some of 110 00:08:11.040 --> 00:08:15.160 the spectacular artifacts are in that book, but he has 111 00:08:15.480 --> 00:08:20.160 developed some theories and some ideas on just what was 112 00:08:20.199 --> 00:08:24.519 happening in karahant Teppy because although karahnd Teppy and Go 113 00:08:24.600 --> 00:08:30.480 Beckley Teppy are similar, Karahan Teppe has some unusual features 114 00:08:31.319 --> 00:08:34.480 that are beginning to come up as they're analyzing not 115 00:08:34.519 --> 00:08:38.600 only the figures, sculptures and artifacts that have been found there, 116 00:08:39.080 --> 00:08:42.879 but just how it was cut into the bedrock and 117 00:08:43.000 --> 00:08:50.159 how these T shaped columns were used for perhaps astronomic 118 00:08:50.279 --> 00:08:55.240 observation or whatever. It's just a fascinating view. And you 119 00:08:55.320 --> 00:09:01.879 got to remember, Go Beckley Teppe is the what they 120 00:09:01.879 --> 00:09:05.360 think the inception data is Karahan. Teppy's a little bit younger, 121 00:09:05.399 --> 00:09:09.200 but perhaps by a thousand years. They're all very very 122 00:09:09.320 --> 00:09:13.840 very old and fascinating. So check that out. And by 123 00:09:13.919 --> 00:09:15.919 the way, if you're interested in any of the Earth 124 00:09:15.919 --> 00:09:21.039 Ancients tours, go to Earth Ancients dot com, Forward Slash Tours, 125 00:09:21.720 --> 00:09:28.279 t o u r s great fun. My guest today 126 00:09:28.720 --> 00:09:34.879 is a megalithic researcher and I've been following his work 127 00:09:34.919 --> 00:09:39.120 for a while. The theme of the show is Megalithic marvels, 128 00:09:39.240 --> 00:09:43.639 and my guest is Derek Olsen. He has I've actually 129 00:09:43.720 --> 00:09:47.080 been on his podcast. He's got a podcast called stargate 130 00:09:47.600 --> 00:09:54.559 Voyager Podcast and the program today is revolves around his 131 00:09:56.799 --> 00:10:06.279 visits to Peru, to be to Egypt and also Neolithic 132 00:10:07.679 --> 00:10:15.159 England and his discoveries and his profiling of some of 133 00:10:15.200 --> 00:10:19.440 the places that he's been are fabulous. And if you 134 00:10:19.480 --> 00:10:24.080 haven't heard of stargate Voyager, you can see his work 135 00:10:24.720 --> 00:10:30.600 on YouTube go to stargate Voyager and also Facebook, and 136 00:10:30.639 --> 00:10:36.440 also he's got a collection of works on Instagram. But 137 00:10:36.559 --> 00:10:40.639 what he's discovered, what he has chronicle, i should say, 138 00:10:41.039 --> 00:10:47.600 is the great Stonemasonry that goes into these huge megalithic walls, 139 00:10:48.360 --> 00:10:53.720 temples and standing edifices for markers and things like that, 140 00:10:54.720 --> 00:10:59.440 and more importantly, the refined nature of the carving in 141 00:10:59.480 --> 00:11:02.679 these works. In other words, it isn't anything that we 142 00:11:02.720 --> 00:11:05.240 can we can put our hands on. We can we 143 00:11:05.279 --> 00:11:12.519 can decide accurately how and by what means these stones 144 00:11:12.559 --> 00:11:19.840 were cut. And so his first edition, his first work 145 00:11:20.320 --> 00:11:25.519 in discovering Megalists, was in Megalithic Marvels, and strangely, and 146 00:11:25.559 --> 00:11:30.200 we'll talk about this today, the censors on these social 147 00:11:30.240 --> 00:11:35.320 media pages decided for some reason that his work in 148 00:11:35.879 --> 00:11:42.240 posting these anomalies these megalists was unacceptable, and so they 149 00:11:42.279 --> 00:11:45.919 began shutting him down. And we're gonna learn about this today. 150 00:11:46.159 --> 00:11:50.879 There's no reason why this was done. And I have 151 00:11:51.000 --> 00:11:55.120 to say I have been somewhat lucky in our social 152 00:11:55.200 --> 00:11:59.240 media posts that even though we post the galleries of 153 00:11:59.240 --> 00:12:07.200 of megalists and unusual anomalies regarding Stonemasonry, we haven't been 154 00:12:07.480 --> 00:12:11.720 we haven't been threatened, we haven't been taken down like 155 00:12:11.759 --> 00:12:14.559 a lot of other people. And I don't know why 156 00:12:14.600 --> 00:12:19.320 they targeted Megalithic Marvels to the point where he had 157 00:12:19.360 --> 00:12:21.279 to change it, but we're gonna learn about this today. 158 00:12:21.360 --> 00:12:25.279 So today's program is Megalithic Marvels and my guest is 159 00:12:25.879 --> 00:12:32.879 Derek Olson. We're featuring an incredible opportunity to visit one 160 00:12:32.919 --> 00:12:36.279 of the real enigmas of the ancient world, and that 161 00:12:36.480 --> 00:12:40.519 is Easter Island in the Pacific Ocean. This is a 162 00:12:40.600 --> 00:12:43.120 new tour that we're doing. It looks like this will 163 00:12:43.120 --> 00:12:46.519 probably be the only chance we get to go because 164 00:12:46.559 --> 00:12:49.759 it's very challenging to get over there. But we're lucky 165 00:12:49.919 --> 00:12:54.039 because doctor Edwin Barnhardt, our host and our tour leader, 166 00:12:54.440 --> 00:12:58.120 has been surveying this island for over a number of 167 00:12:58.200 --> 00:13:02.279 years and has some really amazing insights on just how 168 00:13:03.240 --> 00:13:08.639 detailed and how complicated and how mysterious this island is 169 00:13:09.279 --> 00:13:12.559 going to be. March fifteenth through twenty third, I wanted 170 00:13:12.600 --> 00:13:15.440 to ask just a brief question or two because I 171 00:13:15.519 --> 00:13:18.080 obviously have never been there and I'm really excited to 172 00:13:18.120 --> 00:13:20.600 be a part of this. It was a highlight talk 173 00:13:20.600 --> 00:13:23.360 about the moi. There's a number of them, aren't there. 174 00:13:24.799 --> 00:13:29.759 There are so many moai there, it's outrageous. You see 175 00:13:29.879 --> 00:13:32.639 from coffee table books that there's lines of them. But 176 00:13:32.720 --> 00:13:36.519 in point of fact, there's over one thousand moi and 177 00:13:36.559 --> 00:13:40.320 they're spread all over the island. They're where ancient villages 178 00:13:40.440 --> 00:13:42.960 used to be. So we're gonna go visit a bunch 179 00:13:42.960 --> 00:13:46.399 of those. There's also the quarry. There's one quarry where 180 00:13:46.440 --> 00:13:48.559 almost all of them were made, and a lot of 181 00:13:48.600 --> 00:13:51.799 them are still half made lying in the quarry. That 182 00:13:51.879 --> 00:13:56.120 thing is just a sight to see how grew up briefly. 183 00:13:56.000 --> 00:13:58.799 And I didn't realize they have an observatory there. Is 184 00:13:58.799 --> 00:14:02.799 it a planetary or is it more of a setup 185 00:14:02.799 --> 00:14:04.360 for evening sites. 186 00:14:05.559 --> 00:14:09.000 It's a planetarium. It's a passion project by a man 187 00:14:09.120 --> 00:14:13.519 named EDMUNDO. Edwards who's been studying the archaeo astronomy of 188 00:14:13.679 --> 00:14:18.120 the island for his entire life, I think almost fifty 189 00:14:18.200 --> 00:14:20.840 years now. He knows more than anyone and he put 190 00:14:20.879 --> 00:14:25.399 together this planetarium to share this lifetime of knowledge with 191 00:14:25.519 --> 00:14:27.080 the visitors that come to the place. 192 00:14:27.480 --> 00:14:31.240 Fantastic. So March fifteenth to the twenty third, that is 193 00:14:31.320 --> 00:14:35.200 a week, and it sounds like we've really packed a 194 00:14:35.200 --> 00:14:38.200 lot in during those seven days, right, I. 195 00:14:38.200 --> 00:14:41.240 Tell you, For an island that's only twelve miles across, 196 00:14:41.320 --> 00:14:43.240 there is an endless amount of things to see. 197 00:14:43.240 --> 00:14:46.440 There looking forward to it. Fantastic all right. For more 198 00:14:46.440 --> 00:14:50.240 information to go to Earth Ancients dot com forward slash tours, 199 00:14:50.639 --> 00:14:53.200 look for the photo of Ed standing next to one 200 00:14:53.240 --> 00:14:56.759 of the big Mai sculptures and register as soon as 201 00:14:56.759 --> 00:14:59.919 you can again go to earth Anchiens dot com, forward 202 00:15:00.120 --> 00:15:35.320 slash tours. Thanks Ed, Thank you, Cliff. There's a lot 203 00:15:35.360 --> 00:15:40.080 of influencers out there who are talking about the ancient past. 204 00:15:40.120 --> 00:15:42.000 We've had a lot of people, a lot of authors 205 00:15:42.039 --> 00:15:45.720 on the program, but somebody I've been following for a while. 206 00:15:45.720 --> 00:15:49.440 We've actually talked about Derek Olsen. It used to be 207 00:15:49.720 --> 00:15:56.679 Megalithic Marvels. He's had to update his brand to Stargate Voyager, 208 00:15:56.919 --> 00:15:58.440 and we're going to talk about that in a minute. 209 00:15:58.480 --> 00:16:01.759 But I wanted to have Derek on the program because 210 00:16:01.919 --> 00:16:07.039 he is truly somebody who not only follows megalithic cultures 211 00:16:07.720 --> 00:16:11.440 and actually travels to these locations every year. And we're 212 00:16:11.480 --> 00:16:17.679 talking about South America, Europe and other ancient locations, and 213 00:16:17.840 --> 00:16:22.679 he tracks them and does really really cool videos and 214 00:16:22.919 --> 00:16:27.799 photo galleries throughout the internet. And what I want to 215 00:16:27.840 --> 00:16:31.360 have him on the program for today is the fact 216 00:16:31.440 --> 00:16:36.279 that why is he so interested in these megalithic sites 217 00:16:36.360 --> 00:16:40.200 number one and number two. The question for him is 218 00:16:40.320 --> 00:16:45.000 who are the people who left these remains? Now, we 219 00:16:45.000 --> 00:16:49.000 were at go Beckley Teppe just recently in Carahan Teppee 220 00:16:49.000 --> 00:16:53.279 and in the museums the portrayal of the people were 221 00:16:53.360 --> 00:16:56.840 like cavemen, and this was blowing me away. In Istanbul, 222 00:16:57.399 --> 00:16:59.559 we went to see the go Beckley Teppee museum and 223 00:16:59.600 --> 00:17:04.839 they had these guys in bear clothes and they look 224 00:17:04.920 --> 00:17:09.279 like cavemen, the typical caveman. And I'm thinking, are these 225 00:17:09.359 --> 00:17:12.759 the true people or is this just an interpretation? And 226 00:17:12.839 --> 00:17:15.880 I'm thinking more it's more likely that they these are 227 00:17:15.920 --> 00:17:18.920 an interpretation of these ancient people. So we're gonna find 228 00:17:18.960 --> 00:17:24.000 out a little bit about Derek's impression on our program today. So, Hey, Derek, 229 00:17:24.079 --> 00:17:27.000 welcome to Earth Ancient's great to see you, man. 230 00:17:27.720 --> 00:17:30.440 Hey Cliff, it's great to be here. Thanks so much 231 00:17:30.480 --> 00:17:33.680 for the invite. A longtime fan of you and the 232 00:17:33.720 --> 00:17:38.079 podcast and so yeah, just an honor to be here 233 00:17:38.200 --> 00:17:41.079 and excited about what we're going to get into. Whenever 234 00:17:41.119 --> 00:17:45.279 it comes to ancient history and architecture legends, man, I 235 00:17:45.319 --> 00:17:47.920 get excited. And so let's do this. 236 00:17:48.319 --> 00:17:52.640 All right, Let's talk about you, what is the inspiration 237 00:17:52.839 --> 00:17:57.880 behind I mean, you put your life into this, not 238 00:17:57.960 --> 00:18:02.799 only Facebook, Instagram and YouTube channels, but you do these 239 00:18:02.839 --> 00:18:07.279 wonderful tours. So talk about your interest personally. What does 240 00:18:07.319 --> 00:18:08.119 it start for you? 241 00:18:09.200 --> 00:18:11.680 Yeah, you know, I was one of these aids. I 242 00:18:11.680 --> 00:18:18.400 always grew up fascinated by history, ancient architecture, reading about 243 00:18:18.480 --> 00:18:24.440 the ancient Egyptians, watching Indiana Jones, stuff like that. I 244 00:18:24.480 --> 00:18:28.119 think for me, I really took it to another level 245 00:18:28.400 --> 00:18:33.079 years ago, probably around twenty twelve or so. I was 246 00:18:33.119 --> 00:18:37.000 doing an Internet image search of ancient architecture one day. 247 00:18:37.039 --> 00:18:40.000 It must have been my day off, and I was 248 00:18:40.039 --> 00:18:44.039 probably using Google, and all these images pop up, and 249 00:18:44.160 --> 00:18:48.480 one caught my attention and I kind of leaned towards 250 00:18:48.480 --> 00:18:52.880 the screen and it was a photo of the megalithic 251 00:18:52.960 --> 00:18:56.680 walls of soak se Walman in Peru, and I'm thinking, 252 00:18:56.799 --> 00:19:01.680 what in the heck is that? And then I click 253 00:19:01.720 --> 00:19:05.240 on it start reading, and I guess back then even 254 00:19:05.319 --> 00:19:09.279 my critical thinking skills were somewhat activated, because I'm thinking 255 00:19:09.359 --> 00:19:13.119 this is far superior to any most of the other ancient, 256 00:19:13.319 --> 00:19:16.640 you know, architecture that you see when you're when you're 257 00:19:16.720 --> 00:19:21.319 viewing this stuff, and so I began to just read 258 00:19:21.400 --> 00:19:26.440 on what is this incredible engineering? And of course, you know, 259 00:19:26.480 --> 00:19:29.279 I was hit with a mainstream narrative that this was INCA. 260 00:19:30.599 --> 00:19:33.799 And then I stumbled upon some other articles and videos 261 00:19:33.839 --> 00:19:38.240 that this may may predate the INCA. And I'm thinking 262 00:19:38.319 --> 00:19:40.559 pre date the INCA. How have I never seen these 263 00:19:40.559 --> 00:19:46.160 photos in history class or read about them and you know, textbooks, 264 00:19:48.359 --> 00:19:49.920 And so that really just took me to a new 265 00:19:50.000 --> 00:19:53.599 level of research where I began to kind of connect 266 00:19:53.599 --> 00:19:56.519 the dots then to it appears there is even a 267 00:19:56.599 --> 00:20:03.519 hidden history involved here, and why why is it so 268 00:20:03.599 --> 00:20:06.319 hard for people to admit that this might predate to INCA. 269 00:20:06.519 --> 00:20:09.960 And so a couple of years after that, I found 270 00:20:10.000 --> 00:20:14.319 myself on a plane to Peru looking at these walls, 271 00:20:14.400 --> 00:20:19.079 myself touching them, collecting all this photographic and video evidence, 272 00:20:19.240 --> 00:20:22.359 and I had so much. I felt like I had 273 00:20:22.359 --> 00:20:25.799 so much new knowledge and so much footage that I 274 00:20:25.880 --> 00:20:28.799 just kind of began to launch these social media platforms, 275 00:20:29.400 --> 00:20:32.960 started a blog, and it was just crazy how it 276 00:20:33.079 --> 00:20:35.440 seemed to take off, that there was such a hunger 277 00:20:36.200 --> 00:20:39.559 for this kind of content and knowledge, and so I 278 00:20:39.559 --> 00:20:41.920 guess that's what kind of got me going, yeah, it 279 00:20:41.960 --> 00:20:46.279 was originally Megalithic Marvels dot com was my blog. Yeah, 280 00:20:46.319 --> 00:20:49.559 and I had, you know, Instagram and Facebook channels called 281 00:20:49.680 --> 00:20:53.799 Megalithic Marvels and yeh. Since that, I've I kind of 282 00:20:53.839 --> 00:20:56.119 rebranded to the name Stargate Voyager. 283 00:20:56.960 --> 00:21:01.440 Let me stop you real quickly, Dereck talk about Megalithic Marvels, 284 00:21:01.480 --> 00:21:06.359 because something happened and I don't know if it's the 285 00:21:06.480 --> 00:21:10.640 editors decided that you're just too fringy and they stopped 286 00:21:11.079 --> 00:21:15.039 allowing you to post. I can't remember his Facebook or YouTube. 287 00:21:15.039 --> 00:21:17.680 This is a few years ago, and I remember I 288 00:21:17.720 --> 00:21:21.839 remember asking, dude, what's going on? Because you're You're branded 289 00:21:21.880 --> 00:21:25.680 as Megalithic Marvels and had a huge audience. I think 290 00:21:25.680 --> 00:21:30.400 you had a quarter million people on Instagram and YouTube. 291 00:21:30.680 --> 00:21:33.400 But what what do you think happened? Did you get? 292 00:21:34.319 --> 00:21:36.359 You got to slap in the hand, which is weird 293 00:21:36.400 --> 00:21:37.039 talk about it? 294 00:21:37.480 --> 00:21:42.200 Well, yeah, you know, my premiere platform, the last you know, 295 00:21:42.240 --> 00:21:45.440 the hint the first five plus years was Instagram, and 296 00:21:45.480 --> 00:21:49.599 that thing grew quickly. It seemed like the three hundred 297 00:21:49.599 --> 00:21:53.960 thousand plus and I was able to monetize and I 298 00:21:54.039 --> 00:21:57.079 was able to I was literally growing by thousands of 299 00:21:57.119 --> 00:22:01.200 you know, followers a month, posting videos of Megalithic marvels 300 00:22:01.240 --> 00:22:07.680 and posting videos. Well, suddenly I noticed that my stats 301 00:22:07.680 --> 00:22:10.640 were kind of flatlining, and then they were going down. 302 00:22:10.680 --> 00:22:13.000 You know, you can see your analytics. And then I 303 00:22:13.000 --> 00:22:15.680 was getting messages from people saying, hey, I can't find 304 00:22:15.680 --> 00:22:19.200 your content anymore, but I follow you. This is weird, 305 00:22:20.119 --> 00:22:23.839 and so I started to kind of look into it, 306 00:22:24.079 --> 00:22:26.440 and it sounded like I was what they call shadow band, 307 00:22:27.039 --> 00:22:30.200 where it appears that you're functioning, but really it's like 308 00:22:30.799 --> 00:22:33.240 they've hit a button and nobody can really find or 309 00:22:33.279 --> 00:22:37.720 see your stuff. And so, but then it got weirder 310 00:22:40.599 --> 00:22:43.359 to where I was getting messages from people saying, hey, 311 00:22:43.400 --> 00:22:46.359 have you seen what comes up if you type in 312 00:22:46.480 --> 00:22:52.200 megalithic Marvels? And so this was about two years now ago. 313 00:22:52.279 --> 00:22:55.880 If you typed in Megalithic Marvels and Instagram, an alert 314 00:22:55.960 --> 00:22:59.599 would come up that was even linking my account to 315 00:22:59.720 --> 00:23:01.000 like human trafficking. 316 00:23:02.000 --> 00:23:04.240 Now, what do you think that's about? 317 00:23:04.839 --> 00:23:08.920 And so from all, yeah, from all I could figure 318 00:23:08.960 --> 00:23:13.160 out is that Instagram and Facebook, you know, it's owned 319 00:23:13.160 --> 00:23:18.319 by Facebook or Meta. They had flagged the hashtag megalithic 320 00:23:19.319 --> 00:23:23.400 it appears, and that was the hashtag I used, you know, 321 00:23:23.440 --> 00:23:25.960 when featuring all my stuff, and that word was in 322 00:23:25.960 --> 00:23:28.799 my name as well, megalithic, And so it's almost like 323 00:23:28.920 --> 00:23:31.359 they determined that that word, just like they have other 324 00:23:31.440 --> 00:23:34.839 blacklisted words you can't say on Instagram or use as hashtags. 325 00:23:35.640 --> 00:23:39.079 It's like they blacklisted that word, and I'm assuming it's 326 00:23:39.119 --> 00:23:42.400 because it was directing people maybe to too much of 327 00:23:42.440 --> 00:23:46.000 the truth regarding our ancient past, right, and so being 328 00:23:46.039 --> 00:23:49.960 that they they banned that hashtag, it also seemed to 329 00:23:50.039 --> 00:23:54.680 simultaneously ban my account for a season to where it 330 00:23:54.720 --> 00:23:58.119 got so just messy and dark that I thought, you 331 00:23:58.160 --> 00:24:00.960 know what, it seemed like the only way to unlock 332 00:24:01.000 --> 00:24:03.920 this was to change the name. And so I, as 333 00:24:04.039 --> 00:24:06.400 much as I loved that name, Megalithic Marvels, I thought, 334 00:24:06.440 --> 00:24:09.160 you know, am i am? I totally married to this 335 00:24:09.319 --> 00:24:11.880 name for the sake of just because I love it, 336 00:24:11.880 --> 00:24:14.680 And I thought, you know what, getting the truth out 337 00:24:14.880 --> 00:24:17.240 and expanding is more important. So I changed the name 338 00:24:17.880 --> 00:24:21.240 and it seems to have worked. My account has now 339 00:24:21.799 --> 00:24:24.799 grown a little bit, it still has not been the same, 340 00:24:25.200 --> 00:24:27.519 you know, since all that happened two years ago. So 341 00:24:27.640 --> 00:24:30.000 a lot of my focus is now on YouTube, which 342 00:24:30.519 --> 00:24:34.519 I'm seeing the most traction ever on YouTube. Yeah, and 343 00:24:34.640 --> 00:24:37.480 so Instagram I still do some stuff, but it still 344 00:24:37.599 --> 00:24:39.680 seems pretty censored and controlled. 345 00:24:39.759 --> 00:24:41.599 I mean, you have big numbers on YouTube, you have. 346 00:24:41.680 --> 00:24:43.160 I think I looked at it last time. It was 347 00:24:43.200 --> 00:24:47.839 three hundred thousand subscribers and so on. But did you 348 00:24:47.960 --> 00:24:54.200 ever get a email that said that you were being 349 00:24:54.400 --> 00:24:58.920 censored because this was off limits material or was it? 350 00:24:58.920 --> 00:25:01.000 It sounds like it's very so what they were doing 351 00:25:01.119 --> 00:25:07.720 is like banning you and blocking people's availability to get 352 00:25:07.759 --> 00:25:08.440 your material. 353 00:25:09.599 --> 00:25:14.200 Yeah. No, there was never any official explanation. And that's 354 00:25:14.200 --> 00:25:17.359 what's so frustrating. You know, you devote years to building 355 00:25:17.400 --> 00:25:21.400 a community on a platform which which is actually making 356 00:25:21.519 --> 00:25:24.880 them money, right because if you make money, they're making money, 357 00:25:25.440 --> 00:25:28.720 and so you build this incredible community and then they 358 00:25:28.759 --> 00:25:33.039 just start destroying it with censorship. And it happened to 359 00:25:33.039 --> 00:25:36.599 me on Facebook too. My Facebook actually grew even bigger 360 00:25:36.640 --> 00:25:41.079 than Instagram, but I was demonetized in like most of 361 00:25:41.119 --> 00:25:45.440 the categories there. And of course they never give you, 362 00:25:45.440 --> 00:25:49.759 you know, anything concrete. It just says you broke community 363 00:25:49.759 --> 00:25:53.119 guidelines and it's like, how did I break community guidelines? 364 00:25:53.119 --> 00:25:55.680 And it says, well, you shared content that wasn't original. 365 00:25:55.759 --> 00:26:00.440 It's like, oh, my content's original. Yeah, you could never 366 00:26:00.519 --> 00:26:03.680 get any specific answers. I guess I've learned you just 367 00:26:03.759 --> 00:26:05.799 kind of kind of shake it off and keep going, 368 00:26:05.920 --> 00:26:08.440 you know, because this kind of crap is going to happen. 369 00:26:09.079 --> 00:26:11.519 And so again, luckily YouTube has been good to me. 370 00:26:11.720 --> 00:26:14.440 And that's that's grown out over four hundred thousand actually, 371 00:26:14.920 --> 00:26:17.759 and so we're having fun moving trying to push the 372 00:26:17.759 --> 00:26:22.519 needle forward and and just awaken minds to how amazing 373 00:26:22.640 --> 00:26:26.240 history is and how there is hidden history involved too. 374 00:26:26.599 --> 00:26:29.920 I should also mention that you spun out your own podcast, 375 00:26:29.960 --> 00:26:37.039 Stargate Voyager Podcast, and that's very cool, and uh you 376 00:26:37.039 --> 00:26:39.000 have do you have? I think you have a stargate 377 00:26:39.319 --> 00:26:45.240 Voyager website too, which lists your tours pretty much yep, yep, stargate. 378 00:26:44.920 --> 00:26:47.160 Voager dot com. And then you can go to stargate 379 00:26:47.240 --> 00:26:50.640 Voyager dot com slash tours to see some of the 380 00:26:50.680 --> 00:26:54.480 tours we offer. Yeah, we just got back from Peru 381 00:26:54.559 --> 00:26:56.880 and Bolivia. It was incredible. We can get into some 382 00:26:56.920 --> 00:27:00.759 of that. And then in July I was with Hugh 383 00:27:00.839 --> 00:27:04.680 Newman on our Mysteries of England tour. That was wild. 384 00:27:04.839 --> 00:27:08.319 So some cool fundings from that we can talk about. 385 00:27:08.359 --> 00:27:10.880 And of course I did Egypt in May like you 386 00:27:10.920 --> 00:27:14.640 do Egypt, and I always come back from Egypt with 387 00:27:14.799 --> 00:27:20.920 I think, more questions than answers. But history is pretty amazing. 388 00:27:21.079 --> 00:27:23.640 Let's talk a little bit about Stonemasonry. This is something 389 00:27:23.680 --> 00:27:28.039 that you bring up and highlight in your photo posts 390 00:27:28.039 --> 00:27:31.839 as well as your video work. It looks to me 391 00:27:32.480 --> 00:27:35.640 and I really want your impression on this, that at 392 00:27:35.680 --> 00:27:39.440 some point in the distant past there was a technology 393 00:27:39.440 --> 00:27:44.480 that was perhaps universally adapted and we don't know how 394 00:27:44.480 --> 00:27:47.440 it works because we likely don't have the physics and 395 00:27:47.480 --> 00:27:53.200 the science. But this is cutting stone with a hot 396 00:27:53.279 --> 00:27:56.599 tool that looks like a scoop mark. And we see 397 00:27:56.599 --> 00:28:00.799 this technology in Cusco, we see it in the Sacred 398 00:28:00.880 --> 00:28:04.720 Valley of Peru, but we also see it in Egypt, 399 00:28:05.400 --> 00:28:10.559 in Greece, we see it in places like Stonehenge. Talk 400 00:28:10.599 --> 00:28:14.880 about your impressions of that and what you think it is, 401 00:28:14.920 --> 00:28:16.440