WEBVTT 1 00:00:02.200 --> 00:00:10.599 You see, something's going to happen. What's going to happen? 2 00:00:15.480 --> 00:00:17.160 What I. 3 00:00:24.559 --> 00:00:28.640 Welcome back to the Occult Rejects. Today we're joined by 4 00:00:28.719 --> 00:00:32.039 Jen Sanki, author of Manifesting by the Moon, a Guide 5 00:00:32.079 --> 00:00:34.560 to Lunar Magic. There are a lot of books and 6 00:00:34.560 --> 00:00:37.200 conversations out there that treat the moon like a symbol, 7 00:00:37.399 --> 00:00:41.359 an aesthetic, or a vague spiritual backdrop, but Gen's work 8 00:00:41.399 --> 00:00:44.560 approaches it differently, and Manifesting by the Moon the Moon 9 00:00:44.600 --> 00:00:47.920 becomes a rhythm, a structure, and a working magical system, 10 00:00:48.000 --> 00:00:52.359 a way of aligning intention, emotion, ritual, self awareness and 11 00:00:52.520 --> 00:00:55.640 action with the changing phases of the lunar cycle. The 12 00:00:55.640 --> 00:00:57.759 book is framed around using the moon as a guide 13 00:00:57.759 --> 00:01:02.000 for self discovery, transformation, and manifestation, and it builds that 14 00:01:02.079 --> 00:01:09.840 path through foundations like spirit, mind, body, deity, tarot, herbs, oils, incense, crystals, 15 00:01:09.879 --> 00:01:14.640 and phase specific practice. Jen is a professional witch, teacher, 16 00:01:15.040 --> 00:01:18.200 tower reader, and speaker who's broader work centers on helping 17 00:01:18.200 --> 00:01:21.959 people recognize their own magical potential, deepen their personal growth, 18 00:01:22.200 --> 00:01:26.200 and manifest their desires through spiritual practice. So today we're 19 00:01:26.239 --> 00:01:28.840 diving into lunar magic, not just as an idea, but 20 00:01:28.879 --> 00:01:32.120 as a discipline, what it is, how it works. 21 00:01:31.959 --> 00:01:33.719 Why the moon has remained such a. 22 00:01:33.640 --> 00:01:37.680 Powerful spiritual force across traditions, and how people can actually 23 00:01:37.719 --> 00:01:41.480 build a meaningful practice around it. Now, before I introduce 24 00:01:41.560 --> 00:01:43.959 the rest of the panel and the guest, I would 25 00:01:43.959 --> 00:01:46.760 like to make an announcement. We want to remind people 26 00:01:46.760 --> 00:01:49.239 about the website. If you're into reading, we have tons 27 00:01:49.239 --> 00:01:52.200 of information by multiple contributors, and we got t shirts 28 00:01:52.280 --> 00:01:55.040 up on the site if you're interested. Fun fact, the 29 00:01:55.159 --> 00:01:58.120 art is all based on the eyeball. All right, that's 30 00:01:58.239 --> 00:02:01.040 enough outemy, enough announcements. Let me introduced the rest of 31 00:02:01.079 --> 00:02:04.079 the panel, and we got Teresa re joining us today again. 32 00:02:04.599 --> 00:02:06.239 We had her on on a week or two ago. 33 00:02:06.239 --> 00:02:07.599 I had a blast with her. I thought she was 34 00:02:07.640 --> 00:02:10.120 awesome as hell. She introduced me to Jen, so I 35 00:02:10.120 --> 00:02:12.840 figured why not bring her on again. So Teresa, please 36 00:02:12.879 --> 00:02:14.319 let everybody know what's up with you and where they 37 00:02:14.319 --> 00:02:15.599 can find all your amazing work. 38 00:02:17.080 --> 00:02:19.680 Thank you so much. Glad to be here again. I 39 00:02:19.719 --> 00:02:22.080 had I had a blast last time, and just for 40 00:02:22.120 --> 00:02:25.719 folks who are listening in, Nick had me at ICP. 41 00:02:25.879 --> 00:02:30.639 But that's a whole nother story. So I'm a music fanatic. 42 00:02:30.680 --> 00:02:32.879 That's one of my things. But I'm also known as 43 00:02:32.879 --> 00:02:35.120 the Tarot Lady. I've got a ton of books out there. 44 00:02:35.719 --> 00:02:38.439 I write about terror, I write about astrology, all kinds 45 00:02:38.439 --> 00:02:41.039 of other things, and really the best place to find 46 00:02:41.080 --> 00:02:43.479 me is always my website, the Tarot Lady dot com, 47 00:02:43.800 --> 00:02:46.039 and you'll see me on social media. My handle is 48 00:02:46.080 --> 00:02:49.400 always the Tarot Lady, although on one or two places 49 00:02:49.400 --> 00:02:51.439 someone else grabbed the Tarot Lady and they're not really 50 00:02:51.520 --> 00:02:54.319 using it. So this is the real deal. 51 00:02:54.599 --> 00:02:54.919 You'll know. 52 00:02:55.120 --> 00:02:56.599 Just my website will tell you where I'm at. 53 00:02:57.280 --> 00:02:59.840 A awesome Thank you so much, Juse, I really appreciate you. 54 00:02:59.840 --> 00:03:02.560 Me in it again and then man himself the storyteller 55 00:03:02.680 --> 00:03:04.240 Robbie Marks, What is going on, sir? 56 00:03:04.280 --> 00:03:06.039 How are you hello? 57 00:03:06.400 --> 00:03:08.879 How's everybody doing thing? It's good to come in and 58 00:03:08.919 --> 00:03:10.599 hang out for a little bit and see what's going on. 59 00:03:11.599 --> 00:03:14.919 I am Robbie Marx. I'm an artist illustrator. 60 00:03:15.560 --> 00:03:16.240 I do a lot of. 61 00:03:16.199 --> 00:03:21.400 Research into symbolism and ancient history, and if anybody wants 62 00:03:21.400 --> 00:03:25.400 to check out my veryous stuff my website for my artworks, 63 00:03:25.520 --> 00:03:30.479 or my metamind cast podcast or any of the various 64 00:03:30.520 --> 00:03:33.159 things I do you can check out my link tree 65 00:03:33.439 --> 00:03:35.159 which is link tree r. 66 00:03:35.240 --> 00:03:36.199 M A r X. 67 00:03:36.639 --> 00:03:38.719 And I wanted to mention a lot of people have 68 00:03:38.759 --> 00:03:41.639 been asking about the Pink Floyd t's that I did, 69 00:03:42.000 --> 00:03:44.759 and I did just get a limited number of those in. 70 00:03:45.199 --> 00:03:48.719 If anybody wants to him, just hit me up. So yeah, 71 00:03:48.759 --> 00:03:50.759 and it's great to be here. Thanks for having me on. 72 00:03:50.840 --> 00:03:51.000 Nick. 73 00:03:51.080 --> 00:03:53.280 Oh yeah, that artwork you did be for Pink Floyd 74 00:03:53.479 --> 00:03:55.919 was authorized by Pink Floyd and David Gilmore, correct too. 75 00:03:55.879 --> 00:03:58.319 Right, Oh yeah, yeah, that's gangs to do it. 76 00:04:00.280 --> 00:04:01.280 Yeah, all license. 77 00:04:01.879 --> 00:04:03.919 I'm so jealous. Good for you, man, Good for you. 78 00:04:04.919 --> 00:04:07.680 And finally, Jen, thank you so much for making it 79 00:04:07.719 --> 00:04:10.199 on the show. Anything that I might have left out 80 00:04:10.280 --> 00:04:12.199 or anything you'd like to promote, Please let everybody know 81 00:04:12.199 --> 00:04:13.840 where they can find all of your stuff. 82 00:04:14.759 --> 00:04:19.160 Yeah so really, website is stardust wander Taro dot com 83 00:04:19.279 --> 00:04:22.079 or just google gen Sanky everything comes up. I also 84 00:04:22.199 --> 00:04:25.040 create Taro decks. I have a couple of decks out now. 85 00:04:25.199 --> 00:04:28.240 I have Stardust Wanderer Taro, which is very sci fi. 86 00:04:29.319 --> 00:04:32.800 There's space, pirates, gods and goddesses, all of those things 87 00:04:32.800 --> 00:04:35.399 in it. So that's a really fun deck and then 88 00:04:35.519 --> 00:04:38.920 I have another deck that's Enchanted Forest Feelines, and then 89 00:04:39.040 --> 00:04:42.360 the next one I'm working on is Goblin Whispers Taro, 90 00:04:42.519 --> 00:04:48.000 which I am obsessed with. David Bowie, Oh yeah, this 91 00:04:48.079 --> 00:04:50.519 is all my eighties movies. This is about we sleep, 92 00:04:50.560 --> 00:04:51.519 all eighties movies. 93 00:04:51.319 --> 00:04:53.600 So Labyrinth, Dark Crystal, all of that. 94 00:04:53.839 --> 00:04:58.120 So all the goblins are inspired by by that. 95 00:04:58.160 --> 00:05:00.959 So I'm really excited for that deck. So that's just 96 00:05:01.399 --> 00:05:02.319 a little bit. I'd liked it. 97 00:05:02.839 --> 00:05:04.560 You did a Pirates one that is really cool. 98 00:05:05.639 --> 00:05:07.680 Yeah, yeah, Space Pirates. 99 00:05:07.240 --> 00:05:10.160 Space I remember is the old show and showing my 100 00:05:10.199 --> 00:05:12.759 age Ice Pirates. Remember that movie from back in the day. 101 00:05:13.959 --> 00:05:15.879 Probably not. It was like pirates are out of space, 102 00:05:15.959 --> 00:05:20.279 like fighting over ice. It was really weird. You remember that, right, 103 00:05:20.879 --> 00:05:24.160 That shit was weird as hell. Yeah, that was one 104 00:05:24.199 --> 00:05:26.399 of those kid movies that that like stuck in your head. 105 00:05:26.439 --> 00:05:27.519 You're like, what did I just watch? 106 00:05:28.120 --> 00:05:28.480 Yeah? 107 00:05:28.560 --> 00:05:31.519 Right, right right? You probably watched it again anyway. 108 00:05:31.360 --> 00:05:36.160 Yeah, yeah, yeah, totally dude, that's funny, you remember that. 109 00:05:36.759 --> 00:05:39.240 Sorry about that random, random. 110 00:05:38.839 --> 00:05:42.879 Thing, but uh so, Jen Uh, I guess kind of 111 00:05:42.879 --> 00:05:45.040 the same question. I always ask the people that are 112 00:05:45.079 --> 00:05:48.439 into the occult and this stuff. Uh, and you know, 113 00:05:48.519 --> 00:05:50.240 for people, I guess, meeting you for the first time 114 00:05:50.240 --> 00:05:51.759 on my show, if they have not heard about you, 115 00:05:52.199 --> 00:05:53.160 I guess, like, who are you? 116 00:05:53.240 --> 00:05:53.360 When? 117 00:05:53.560 --> 00:05:56.519 What first drew you into tarot, witchcraft and all this stuff? 118 00:05:56.560 --> 00:05:57.680 How did you get into this? 119 00:05:59.160 --> 00:06:00.839 You know, I've just but I. 120 00:06:00.920 --> 00:06:03.360 Was, you know, the weird kid in the woods looking 121 00:06:03.399 --> 00:06:06.720 for fee, making the spells and with the sticks and 122 00:06:06.759 --> 00:06:09.720 the rocks and you know, trying to find all of 123 00:06:09.759 --> 00:06:12.639 the creatures in the woods to talk to, you know, 124 00:06:12.720 --> 00:06:15.800 And then it kind of rolled into you know, media. 125 00:06:16.120 --> 00:06:19.000 So if there was a song, a movie, you know 126 00:06:19.120 --> 00:06:21.639 Stevie Nix I, you know, saw and you know she 127 00:06:21.839 --> 00:06:25.040 was just wonderful and fantastic and witchy, and I'm like, 128 00:06:25.160 --> 00:06:29.160 I want to be like her, and then it moved 129 00:06:29.199 --> 00:06:32.839 it just any of the movies, any reading, any you know, 130 00:06:33.480 --> 00:06:35.040 And I always took around. I like to say that 131 00:06:35.120 --> 00:06:37.439 my segue was that she was your own adventure books 132 00:06:37.800 --> 00:06:40.680 because like you knew, you know, and it's like then 133 00:06:40.720 --> 00:06:43.000 you cheated and you looked ahead of time, so you were, 134 00:06:43.360 --> 00:06:45.319 you know, a fortune teller that you could tell the 135 00:06:45.360 --> 00:06:46.120 future because you. 136 00:06:46.079 --> 00:06:49.959 Can look up page two and then if you die, 137 00:06:50.000 --> 00:06:51.600 you go to the other page. You know, I know 138 00:06:51.680 --> 00:06:55.079 everyone did it, but it really was that I was 139 00:06:55.360 --> 00:06:57.800 alone a lot as a kid. I was you know, 140 00:06:57.879 --> 00:06:58.720 my parents were. 141 00:06:58.600 --> 00:07:01.600 Not you know, parents really just wasn't fun for them, 142 00:07:01.759 --> 00:07:04.759 so they just didn't do it. So I was really 143 00:07:04.800 --> 00:07:07.639 alone a lot, and so it was just you know, 144 00:07:07.800 --> 00:07:10.800 anything that was weird and buerky, and I just. 145 00:07:10.800 --> 00:07:12.720 Gravitated, gravitated towards. 146 00:07:13.160 --> 00:07:15.199 And I also had a lot of friends that I 147 00:07:15.279 --> 00:07:17.639 talked to, and as I grew up, I realized that 148 00:07:18.000 --> 00:07:19.040 not everyone can see the. 149 00:07:18.959 --> 00:07:22.240 Friends that I was talking to. So that was that 150 00:07:22.319 --> 00:07:24.680 was a very big defining moment. I'd say I was 151 00:07:24.720 --> 00:07:25.560 probably like it's like. 152 00:07:25.519 --> 00:07:28.839 Between eight and ten when you're you know, I'd be like, oh, 153 00:07:29.240 --> 00:07:30.839 you know this, you know, they say, oh, it's your 154 00:07:30.839 --> 00:07:33.800 imaginary friend and everything, and they would just discredit me. 155 00:07:33.839 --> 00:07:36.759 But I'd be like, no, there's Susan over there and 156 00:07:37.160 --> 00:07:38.360 she doesn't have an arm. 157 00:07:39.279 --> 00:07:41.399 Something happened to her in a in a you know, 158 00:07:41.480 --> 00:07:42.519 a mill or something. 159 00:07:42.639 --> 00:07:45.040 But she's really nice to me and she tells me 160 00:07:45.120 --> 00:07:47.399 things and people would be like, who, where, what have 161 00:07:47.480 --> 00:07:48.759 you been talking about. 162 00:07:49.600 --> 00:07:51.399 I had this other woman. 163 00:07:51.600 --> 00:07:54.000 I called her the white woman because she was very 164 00:07:54.040 --> 00:07:57.920 pale and she would always tell me when things were 165 00:07:57.959 --> 00:07:59.160 getting really rowdy in my. 166 00:07:59.160 --> 00:08:00.560 House and to hide my closet. 167 00:08:01.600 --> 00:08:04.920 So I she would wake me up and she would 168 00:08:04.959 --> 00:08:07.079 tell me to go like point to my closet, and 169 00:08:07.079 --> 00:08:08.759 I would always run and hide in my closet. 170 00:08:09.240 --> 00:08:12.560 Nine times out of ten, somebody was busting through the door, 171 00:08:12.639 --> 00:08:15.439 drawn ki or both or whatever, and they can find 172 00:08:15.519 --> 00:08:16.720 me because she would tell me. 173 00:08:16.839 --> 00:08:20.160 So that was always, you know, and I thought everybody 174 00:08:20.199 --> 00:08:23.879 had that. I thought everybody had, you know, things around. 175 00:08:23.600 --> 00:08:26.560 Them like that. That real. But as I. 176 00:08:26.600 --> 00:08:28.600 Grew up, I got my first Tara dec when I 177 00:08:28.600 --> 00:08:32.960 was twelve, pre internet, so I had to learn it 178 00:08:33.000 --> 00:08:35.480 all by myself, the hard way, with the little White book, 179 00:08:35.679 --> 00:08:37.159 and you know, it just. 180 00:08:37.159 --> 00:08:38.679 Kind of went on through there. 181 00:08:38.720 --> 00:08:42.279 I was homeless at fourteen, so relying on my magic, 182 00:08:42.360 --> 00:08:44.200 my intuition, all of those things. 183 00:08:44.399 --> 00:08:47.120 It was kind of you had to do it. I 184 00:08:47.159 --> 00:08:47.720 had to do it. 185 00:08:47.720 --> 00:08:50.120 It's either I was going this way or that way, 186 00:08:50.240 --> 00:08:54.039 and thankfully I chose magic over you know, nonsense. 187 00:08:54.120 --> 00:08:56.559 I mean there's always a level of nonsense, but you know, 188 00:08:58.240 --> 00:08:59.759 there's always nonsense. 189 00:09:00.200 --> 00:09:03.360 So so yeah, so, I mean at that point on 190 00:09:03.960 --> 00:09:07.080 I had met my husband and yeah, well now he's 191 00:09:07.120 --> 00:09:07.480 my husband. 192 00:09:07.519 --> 00:09:09.720 He's a many boy friend at the time, and he 193 00:09:10.519 --> 00:09:13.960 we had a baby hit seventeen, and we just kind 194 00:09:13.960 --> 00:09:17.480 of went for it. We started business and throughout all that, 195 00:09:18.039 --> 00:09:21.440 the moon, Tarot and all of the witchy stuff just 196 00:09:21.480 --> 00:09:23.519 stuck with me and that because that was my base. 197 00:09:23.600 --> 00:09:26.080 That was always my base. So brought. 198 00:09:27.440 --> 00:09:32.000 Wow, that's a story right there, very quick version. Yeah, No, 199 00:09:32.120 --> 00:09:34.200 that was great. This is very interesting. 200 00:09:35.200 --> 00:09:35.360 Uh. 201 00:09:35.399 --> 00:09:37.200 You know, as you mentioned like the Witchway books, right 202 00:09:37.279 --> 00:09:39.320 or something like that. Just recently, I feel like you 203 00:09:39.440 --> 00:09:42.000 mentioned something like that where we get to choose your 204 00:09:42.000 --> 00:09:43.799 own adventure. 205 00:09:43.960 --> 00:09:44.240 Yeah. 206 00:09:44.279 --> 00:09:47.559 I saw that recently on some social media appor that 207 00:09:47.600 --> 00:09:49.600 were going on, saying that people that were big into 208 00:09:49.639 --> 00:09:52.480 those tended to get into like kind of occultism and 209 00:09:52.519 --> 00:09:55.639 spirituality as they got all the whole, which is very interesting. 210 00:09:56.480 --> 00:09:58.519 Yeah, them right. 211 00:09:58.360 --> 00:10:01.480 Over here, DC, I mean, the way they we're breaking 212 00:10:01.480 --> 00:10:03.279 it down kind of made sense. It's like, you know, 213 00:10:03.360 --> 00:10:05.360 the magician is always looking to see which way can 214 00:10:05.360 --> 00:10:06.960 get him to where he wants to go, and like 215 00:10:06.960 --> 00:10:10.120 that's what those books are basically about, you know, like 216 00:10:10.120 --> 00:10:12.039 trying to figure out how to get to you know, 217 00:10:12.080 --> 00:10:13.279 whatever you're looking for. 218 00:10:14.440 --> 00:10:16.000 Right, and you get into the future. 219 00:10:16.120 --> 00:10:19.279 You know, you go to too or you're going to 220 00:10:19.320 --> 00:10:21.919 page thirty seven and like, which one am I going 221 00:10:21.960 --> 00:10:24.240 to do? And the one that you die? Of course 222 00:10:24.240 --> 00:10:26.240 you don't go that way. And then it's like I 223 00:10:26.320 --> 00:10:28.799 feel a magical like I just I could have been 224 00:10:28.840 --> 00:10:32.720 dead here I am writing through that she is looking 225 00:10:32.759 --> 00:10:32.960 for it. 226 00:10:35.120 --> 00:10:37.440 Well, I will say that, Oh. 227 00:10:37.360 --> 00:10:40.159 Go ahead, no, go ahead, go ahead. I'm just gonna 228 00:10:40.159 --> 00:10:43.039 say those books were after my time. By the time 229 00:10:43.080 --> 00:10:45.559 those books were coming out, I was into all kinds 230 00:10:45.559 --> 00:10:47.919 of other things, so I was too old for that. 231 00:10:47.960 --> 00:10:50.240 So I missed the whole choose your own adventure thing. 232 00:10:50.639 --> 00:10:52.480 So I'm a little jealous now hearing this. 233 00:10:53.600 --> 00:10:56.039 Well, I was going to say that when you when 234 00:10:56.120 --> 00:10:58.720 you take those books after you've gone through numerous times 235 00:10:58.720 --> 00:11:01.440 and you start to become familiar with them, it almost 236 00:11:01.480 --> 00:11:05.399 puts you in the position of like analogous to the 237 00:11:05.559 --> 00:11:08.759 Watcher class, kind of like where you're kind of able 238 00:11:08.799 --> 00:11:12.799 to see the whole picture of the presence of and 239 00:11:13.000 --> 00:11:14.320 and well. And that's what I was going to say 240 00:11:14.360 --> 00:11:17.519 in regard to the lunar turnings. As you moved through 241 00:11:17.559 --> 00:11:21.240 your life, did you start to see that the moon 242 00:11:22.240 --> 00:11:27.320 was causing and affecting certain things cyclically in your life. 243 00:11:27.480 --> 00:11:32.159 That led to this idea of this lunar kind of expression. 244 00:11:33.080 --> 00:11:36.679 Yeah, and it was really how it affected me first. 245 00:11:36.879 --> 00:11:39.440 And I started noticing and I was born. 246 00:11:39.240 --> 00:11:44.320 On a full moon. Full moon ares, so yeah, that's fire, 247 00:11:45.519 --> 00:11:46.480 and so I knew that. 248 00:11:46.519 --> 00:11:48.120 I knew that I was born in a full moon, 249 00:11:48.200 --> 00:11:51.279 and so I anytime I saw the full moon, before 250 00:11:51.320 --> 00:11:53.200 even knowing any anything else. 251 00:11:53.440 --> 00:11:55.440 I noticed that it drew me in. 252 00:11:55.759 --> 00:11:58.759 And as I was going through different stages of my life, 253 00:11:58.799 --> 00:12:01.000 I always just paid a tension. I didn't know the 254 00:12:01.120 --> 00:12:03.240 names of the thesis, I didn't know what they did, 255 00:12:03.559 --> 00:12:04.559 but I always looked. 256 00:12:04.720 --> 00:12:07.000 I always was like, what's going on? And I would 257 00:12:07.000 --> 00:12:09.919 see that maybe it was like a first quarter moon or. 258 00:12:10.399 --> 00:12:12.480 You know, or maybe it was a dark moon, and 259 00:12:12.519 --> 00:12:15.360 I'm you know, I would just kind of naturally put 260 00:12:15.399 --> 00:12:18.879 it together like what was happening during those times? And 261 00:12:18.919 --> 00:12:22.120 then as I did terror readings for the public, I 262 00:12:22.159 --> 00:12:25.240 started incorporating that in like when I do readings. 263 00:12:25.039 --> 00:12:27.000 I'm very much I'm not like this is this, this 264 00:12:27.080 --> 00:12:27.279 is that. 265 00:12:27.399 --> 00:12:29.440 It's more of like, you know, we're going to figure 266 00:12:29.480 --> 00:12:32.200 out a plan, and you get homework most of the time. 267 00:12:32.639 --> 00:12:34.840 So I started just trying it out with some of 268 00:12:34.840 --> 00:12:38.840 my clients, Like, you know, there's the last quarter moon 269 00:12:38.919 --> 00:12:41.799 coming up, and you've been working towards this, what really 270 00:12:41.799 --> 00:12:45.519 big action can you take? And helping others to kind 271 00:12:45.559 --> 00:12:48.679 of incorporate those phases into their life and seeing it 272 00:12:48.720 --> 00:12:51.600 how it changed their life, you know. And so my 273 00:12:51.639 --> 00:12:53.080 clients were kind of my guinea. 274 00:12:52.840 --> 00:12:56.159 Pigs because I was kind of honing this and check 275 00:12:56.279 --> 00:12:59.039 and seeing how I wanted it to flow, so to speak. 276 00:13:01.240 --> 00:13:07.080 That was great, Thank you. What was it that? I guess? 277 00:13:07.440 --> 00:13:09.200 There's a lot of books on the moon, for sure. 278 00:13:09.240 --> 00:13:11.960 I think what made you want to write this book? Like, 279 00:13:12.039 --> 00:13:13.919 what did you think this was going to offer that 280 00:13:13.960 --> 00:13:15.320 other ones don't? 281 00:13:16.679 --> 00:13:19.639 So really, you know, I always talk about using the 282 00:13:19.679 --> 00:13:23.440 word manifesting and even using that on my cover because 283 00:13:23.519 --> 00:13:25.879 the word does have a lot of eck attached to it. 284 00:13:25.960 --> 00:13:27.919 I was going to ask about that word later on. 285 00:13:28.039 --> 00:13:30.039 So if you want to get into manifesting, that word 286 00:13:30.039 --> 00:13:31.879 now you'll answer some of my questions already. 287 00:13:31.919 --> 00:13:34.159 So yeah, yeah, yeah, let's do it. 288 00:13:35.279 --> 00:13:35.480 You know. 289 00:13:35.720 --> 00:13:38.519 And a lot of people they think of manifesting and 290 00:13:38.679 --> 00:13:43.000 automatically we're thrown into this universe of pastels and lights 291 00:13:43.039 --> 00:13:45.759 and love and you know, and I wore my shirt, 292 00:13:45.879 --> 00:13:49.240 my my live laugh of body shirt because it always 293 00:13:49.320 --> 00:13:52.480 gets somebody who's into that like stuff very you know, and. 294 00:13:52.440 --> 00:13:54.679 There's nothing wrong with it, there's nothing wrong with any 295 00:13:54.679 --> 00:13:57.639 of that. But when when a group of people are 296 00:13:57.639 --> 00:14:01.360 taking a word and they make it so it's they 297 00:14:01.440 --> 00:14:04.840 make themselves profitable, and they make it that, you know, 298 00:14:05.360 --> 00:14:08.240 hit word and you know, manifest in three days and 299 00:14:08.240 --> 00:14:11.159 you'll get everything you want. And really, if you're just 300 00:14:11.320 --> 00:14:14.679 making a wish, you know, doing no action, just making 301 00:14:14.720 --> 00:14:16.519 a wish, nothing's going to happen. 302 00:14:16.720 --> 00:14:20.120 And there are certain groups that are just like, yeah, 303 00:14:20.360 --> 00:14:23.480 if you want to manifest it, just be it. Just 304 00:14:23.519 --> 00:14:26.639 throw it out into the universe and the universe will provide. No, 305 00:14:27.240 --> 00:14:29.919 the universe doesn't give a fuck about any of that. 306 00:14:30.440 --> 00:14:33.080 They're like, they're going on their merry way, just like 307 00:14:33.159 --> 00:14:35.159 the Boon's going on. It's merry way, and at least 308 00:14:35.159 --> 00:14:36.559 you're actually doing something. 309 00:14:36.600 --> 00:14:39.639 It's just going to pass by and nothing's going to happen. 310 00:14:39.840 --> 00:14:44.600 So there are so many people that see that word 311 00:14:44.679 --> 00:14:47.600 and are like, oh, yeah, probably not going to do that. 312 00:14:47.720 --> 00:14:50.720 So I guess it's my very tiny, little small way 313 00:14:50.799 --> 00:14:54.559 of trying to change the meaning of that, not especially 314 00:14:54.559 --> 00:14:56.440 the meaning of the word, just the connotation of it, 315 00:14:56.519 --> 00:14:59.559 and that you know, with the look at it, it 316 00:14:59.679 --> 00:15:00.639 means that you've got. 317 00:15:00.559 --> 00:15:02.840 To put in some work, you have to do the things. 318 00:15:03.200 --> 00:15:06.360 And yes, you can manifest you can bring stuff into 319 00:15:06.399 --> 00:15:08.799 your life, but it's it's not going to just fall 320 00:15:08.840 --> 00:15:10.919 into your life. And then being able to kind of 321 00:15:10.960 --> 00:15:15.679 provide different tools so that you can't say, well, I manifested. 322 00:15:15.200 --> 00:15:18.279 And nothing happened. Well, if you didn't read my book 323 00:15:18.360 --> 00:15:20.000 and see all the stuff in it and the thing 324 00:15:20.159 --> 00:15:22.519 in all the things available to you is to make 325 00:15:22.559 --> 00:15:24.360 that actually happen, then I don't want to hear it, 326 00:15:25.039 --> 00:15:25.279 you know. 327 00:15:25.399 --> 00:15:28.559 And it's not lovelight, it's not rainbows, it's not light 328 00:15:28.679 --> 00:15:31.399 language at you, it's not beeby boom boot, it's. 329 00:15:31.399 --> 00:15:33.159 None of that's going to work. So that's not what 330 00:15:33.279 --> 00:15:34.080 manifesting is. 331 00:15:35.799 --> 00:15:37.679 And manifesting I'm going to butt in a little bit 332 00:15:37.720 --> 00:15:40.679 here too, because I've definitely got something to say about manifestation. 333 00:15:41.600 --> 00:15:45.240 Let's see these people doing these manifestation things and you know, 334 00:15:45.360 --> 00:15:48.200 writing their books and YadA YadA YadA about it, But 335 00:15:48.320 --> 00:15:50.519 what a lot of these people leave out these people 336 00:15:50.559 --> 00:15:53.679 who are manifesting all these things that they're claiming they're manifesting. 337 00:15:53.759 --> 00:15:55.360 Is a lot of them have a lot of privilege, 338 00:15:55.799 --> 00:15:58.440 you know that they are coming from. Maybe their spouse 339 00:15:58.480 --> 00:16:01.440 has money, maybe they're aarons have money. They don't know 340 00:16:01.440 --> 00:16:02.720 what it's like to be out on the street and 341 00:16:02.799 --> 00:16:05.639 down and out and down to your absolute last cook 342 00:16:05.759 --> 00:16:08.799 in the house. They do not know. And so it's 343 00:16:08.919 --> 00:16:10.759 and by the way, I had times in my life 344 00:16:10.799 --> 00:16:14.360 where I was extremely poor. Climbing out of poverty isn't 345 00:16:14.440 --> 00:16:18.120 just me sitting around going home and visualizing the McMansion. 346 00:16:18.679 --> 00:16:24.440 It took me years to get out of poverty. Hard work, discipline, magic, ritual, 347 00:16:24.840 --> 00:16:26.759 all of that. I had to throw everything at it 348 00:16:26.799 --> 00:16:28.759 to get out of poverty. And so a lot of 349 00:16:28.799 --> 00:16:32.840 these people that talk the manifestation, they have a tremendous 350 00:16:32.879 --> 00:16:35.639 amount of privilege. They have resources that a lot of 351 00:16:35.679 --> 00:16:39.200 other people don't have. And to tell somebody who's really poor, 352 00:16:39.799 --> 00:16:45.399 just hey, go ahead and like positive thinking and it's 353 00:16:45.440 --> 00:16:48.039 going to make you get all these things, that's bogus 354 00:16:48.320 --> 00:16:51.200 because it doesn't work like that. If we don't think 355 00:16:51.200 --> 00:16:54.919 about the systemic things that create real hardship for people 356 00:16:55.000 --> 00:16:58.080 and make it hard forward them to crawl out of 357 00:16:58.159 --> 00:17:02.159 their you know whatever. We're not doing them a service. 358 00:17:02.200 --> 00:17:04.920 We are selling them a pipe dream. And I like 359 00:17:05.000 --> 00:17:07.880 to think not only do some of these people, well, 360 00:17:07.920 --> 00:17:11.279 first of all, pipe dream sell, fear cells, pipe cream sell. 361 00:17:11.759 --> 00:17:14.079 If someone tells you he's coming oh yeah, the cars 362 00:17:14.079 --> 00:17:17.599 say he's coming back, that sells. But if you are 363 00:17:17.640 --> 00:17:20.200 someone like taking a book like this and saying, okay, 364 00:17:20.200 --> 00:17:22.519 well you want to manifest something, Well, here's the magic, 365 00:17:22.559 --> 00:17:25.000 here's the cycle shit to follow, and here's the practical 366 00:17:25.039 --> 00:17:26.920 things you have to do in your day to day life. Well, 367 00:17:26.960 --> 00:17:30.720 people do think you're a big fricking bummer, and you're not. 368 00:17:31.039 --> 00:17:33.720 It is you have to have practicality with your magic 369 00:17:34.000 --> 00:17:36.920 and with this manifestation thing. The other thing that gets 370 00:17:36.960 --> 00:17:39.400 me really really mad when we talk about the privileged 371 00:17:39.440 --> 00:17:45.680 stuff too, is they also have sometimes this advice that's 372 00:17:45.680 --> 00:17:49.319 so unrealistic about you can manifest anything you want. Okay, well, 373 00:17:49.400 --> 00:17:51.640 I want to manifest right now that I'm going to 374 00:17:51.680 --> 00:17:55.000 have a relationship with MAT's Michelson, because I think he's fine. 375 00:17:55.640 --> 00:17:57.079 First of all, in order for me to have a 376 00:17:57.119 --> 00:18:01.519 relationship with Mad Michelson, who is a gorgeous man, probably married. 377 00:18:01.559 --> 00:18:03.720 I have no idea. I would have to divorce my husband. 378 00:18:04.759 --> 00:18:07.279 He's gorgeous, he's rich, he's successful. I would probably have 379 00:18:07.279 --> 00:18:09.720 to get fit, and I hate to exercise, so that 380 00:18:09.720 --> 00:18:12.240 ain't going to happen, and I'm going to continue eat 381 00:18:12.240 --> 00:18:14.680 my candy. I would have to then move to Hollywood 382 00:18:14.720 --> 00:18:16.880 or where the hell this man lives. I would have 383 00:18:16.920 --> 00:18:18.559 to do a whole lot of things because Matt Nicholson 384 00:18:18.599 --> 00:18:20.319 is not going to show up at my door no 385 00:18:20.359 --> 00:18:23.799 matter how much I do the manifestation work. So when 386 00:18:23.839 --> 00:18:27.720 we also are giving people this idea and you can 387 00:18:27.799 --> 00:18:30.319 get whatever you want, that's focus because I can also 388 00:18:30.359 --> 00:18:32.599 guarantee there are a lot of other people who want 389 00:18:32.599 --> 00:18:35.440 to get with Mats Michelson. So now are you telling 390 00:18:35.519 --> 00:18:37.200 us that we're all going to get a piece of him? 391 00:18:37.440 --> 00:18:41.720 How does that work? It doesn't make sense. So when 392 00:18:41.759 --> 00:18:44.799 I think about again, some of these people who are 393 00:18:44.839 --> 00:18:47.119 proposing this stuff, they've got a lot of privilege. They've 394 00:18:47.119 --> 00:18:48.680 never been there, they don't know what it's like to 395 00:18:48.680 --> 00:18:51.359 be down and out where they're really able bodied, They've 396 00:18:51.400 --> 00:18:55.279 got everything going for them, or they have access to 397 00:18:55.319 --> 00:18:58.920 something that or they're not being practical. I get really 398 00:18:58.960 --> 00:19:01.920 really bat out of shape of it. So manifestation, do 399 00:19:02.000 --> 00:19:04.680 I believe in it? Yes, But do I believe that 400 00:19:04.720 --> 00:19:08.039 what some of these people are teaching is right? No, 401 00:19:08.200 --> 00:19:10.640