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<v Speaker 1>It O Fantasy Podcast Network presents in a world of

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<v Speaker 1>Now, what's up?

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<v Speaker 2>Friends? Were Welcome into the end This League Fantasy Football

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<v Speaker 2>Podcast today on the episode this is Ranks Analysis. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>Chris Welsh, that is Scott Bogman, and this is one

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<v Speaker 2>of the bigger episodes we do. In any sport we

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<v Speaker 2>do do it. There was a day we used to

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<v Speaker 2>do basketball too, but baseball and football we do these

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<v Speaker 2>across the board. It is something we have been doing

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<v Speaker 2>for I think at minimum ten years plus, so I

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<v Speaker 2>don't ever want to be the person that's like newbodyos

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<v Speaker 2>did it just us? But I think this might be

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<v Speaker 2>one of the few things that we're we tried to

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<v Speaker 2>hold like live mock drafting and player debates a little

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<v Speaker 2>bit close to the chest we did do twelve years ago.

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<v Speaker 2>But that's a pretty open one ranks analysis that we've

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<v Speaker 2>been doing for a long time, just despite the point,

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<v Speaker 2>because it doesn't really actually matter, But the point is

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<v Speaker 2>it's one of the most important episodes that we do.

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<v Speaker 2>Bogman for years and years has put together these really

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<v Speaker 2>intensive sheets where it's taking.

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<v Speaker 1>I did it four chats, ept I did it before

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<v Speaker 1>Claude I.

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<v Speaker 2>Didn't even think about that. That probably could make it

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<v Speaker 2>a little bit easier. But it is taking the top

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<v Speaker 2>websites that you use, and over the years we've changed

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<v Speaker 2>on some of the ones that we're using the top

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<v Speaker 2>player that you were playing, and it is comparing them

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<v Speaker 2>and then we're also comparing them against ECR. So what

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<v Speaker 2>we're gonna do on this episode is we are going

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<v Speaker 2>to be looking at Sleeper, Yahoo, and ESPN probably the

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<v Speaker 2>easy top three platforms, really kicking out NFL dot Com

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<v Speaker 2>as well because ESPN purchased them so I don't even

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<v Speaker 2>know what's going on there, but they're.

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<v Speaker 1>Just all moving because when I went to go make

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<v Speaker 1>a league for ESPN to get their real you can't

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<v Speaker 1>do a mock, by the way, on ESPN for half PPR.

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<v Speaker 1>You have to make it yourself and then go look

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<v Speaker 1>at their rankings, which are the exact same as PPR. So,

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<v Speaker 1>like we've talked.

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<v Speaker 2>About long long standing issue with ESPN of like they

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<v Speaker 2>don't conform to the formats and stuff like that, I

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<v Speaker 2>would say in the cheapest of cheap plugs, that is

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<v Speaker 2>one of those things where something like the company I

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<v Speaker 2>work at with Fantasy Pros drafting with the Draft Wizard

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<v Speaker 2>that synks to the actual settings would be way more

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<v Speaker 2>beneficial over any site. You could argue like Sleeper does

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<v Speaker 2>a really good job or Yahoo, but like ESPN, if

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<v Speaker 2>just nothing ever formatically changes, something like the Draft Assistant

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<v Speaker 2>might really help you because it is actually more designed

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<v Speaker 2>for that. Again, it's not a Fantasy Pros podcast, but

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<v Speaker 2>just giving you a plug. But speaking of Fantasy Pros,

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<v Speaker 2>we will be taking ECR and we will be looking

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<v Speaker 2>at the expert Consensus ranks. It's hundreds of experts, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>quote you can use air quotes if you're one of

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<v Speaker 2>those people, oh expert, huh. But all the experts, the

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<v Speaker 2>people that work in the industry and do this, that

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<v Speaker 2>rank on Fantasy pros creates a consensus overall rank. We're

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<v Speaker 2>going to compare the ECR to overall on these sites.

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<v Speaker 2>Then we are going to individually look at each site

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<v Speaker 2>and what the main purpose of all of this is

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<v Speaker 2>to tell you any overall type of trends, but it's

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<v Speaker 2>going to be the highs and lows on players. You

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<v Speaker 2>might be a guy that plays on Sleeper and Yahoo. Well,

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<v Speaker 2>guess what, you might not see the same player trends

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<v Speaker 2>that are going on guys are going to go higher

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<v Speaker 2>or lower in different places. So we're going to just

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<v Speaker 2>kind of unveil some of those when you pull up

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<v Speaker 2>the draft rooms. Bogwin puts a lot of work into this.

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<v Speaker 2>This sheet available at in this League dot com. Give

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<v Speaker 2>little bogs a little bit of love. Not little bogs,

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<v Speaker 2>but give bogs a little love. That's what I need

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<v Speaker 2>to say. Give bogs a little love on that not

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<v Speaker 2>that's very it's actually very demeaning. Be like the little

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<v Speaker 2>bogs there at Man. No.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, he's a big boy bogs is a big boy

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<v Speaker 1>right next to tiny Welsh or next to big guy.

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<v Speaker 2>Uh if you but when big dog, I'm gonna get

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of that with my me next to Jim

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<v Speaker 2>Tomey picture. But if you want to show Bogman's some

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<v Speaker 2>love in the work, or you want to show us

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<v Speaker 2>as a hole it in this league, go to in

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<v Speaker 2>this League dot com. You can get access to the

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<v Speaker 2>Bogman's got tons of ranks out there. They're not little,

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<v Speaker 2>they're big. It's real, it's redraft, it's super flex.

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<v Speaker 1>It's I this weekend as well, so those will be

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<v Speaker 1>updated for Monday.

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<v Speaker 2>I would have mine up as well in the next

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<v Speaker 2>day or two probably. I mean it's like there's two

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<v Speaker 2>days until August or probably August first. On there you

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<v Speaker 2>can get our ranks available. There, you can join up

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<v Speaker 2>and be part of our group me rooms where you

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<v Speaker 2>can have access to bogmin and I. You can have

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<v Speaker 2>access to the community. People are starting up leagues, they're

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<v Speaker 2>filling out leagues, starting new ones, talking ball, talking strategy,

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<v Speaker 2>whatever that is, plus any of the extra things we do,

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<v Speaker 2>like having you on mocks. Any of these special sheets

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<v Speaker 2>are available and you're directly supporting what we do so

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<v Speaker 2>in this League dot Com very much appreciate it. But

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<v Speaker 2>if you want to see this sheet, you can see

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<v Speaker 2>it in this League dot Com. And it is literally

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<v Speaker 2>the sheet that we are going to be using the

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<v Speaker 2>show sheet here because it's very color coded and it's

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<v Speaker 2>pretty and it's nice, and that is the plan. Bogmin

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<v Speaker 2>So I talked a lot there setting that up. But

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<v Speaker 2>you put a lot of overall work into this stuff,

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<v Speaker 2>and I think it's one of the few things because

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<v Speaker 2>we have like little tent pole of things that we do.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, like you write in the Black Book PSPs

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<v Speaker 2>Black Book, and that's kind of like one of probably

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<v Speaker 2>your first baselines if you really start digging into players

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<v Speaker 2>and stuff. I'll do the same thing. Then you do

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<v Speaker 2>mocks and you're doing your research along the way, and

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<v Speaker 2>then like after you've kind of got all that in

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<v Speaker 2>your brain. This is another tent pole event of learning

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<v Speaker 2>about the websites and having a really true understanding because

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<v Speaker 2>there are some instances. Always want to get your guys,

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<v Speaker 2>if you want to understand these sites. Sometimes they're more

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<v Speaker 2>wide receiver heavy or blah blah blah. Some are going

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<v Speaker 2>to have like the sleeper is probably going to be

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<v Speaker 2>one of those that's going to have like the trendier

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<v Speaker 2>guys that are going to move way up. I think

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<v Speaker 2>they're a lot more adaptive than the other places. But

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<v Speaker 2>you put a lot of work into this, and this

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<v Speaker 2>probably is like the final crown on the the ending

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<v Speaker 2>of like you being really comfortable and knowing not just

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<v Speaker 2>your players but also the sites.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I mean just knowing. You know, this is worth

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<v Speaker 1>it as an exercise for me just to know, like, Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>on Yahoo, there's two players that are absolutely buried, right,

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<v Speaker 1>or someone is way too expensive, Like a player that

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<v Speaker 1>I like is absolutely way down here in the rankings.

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<v Speaker 1>For instance, if you play on ESPN, right and you

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<v Speaker 1>want a tight end, Tucker Craft, for whatever reason, his

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<v Speaker 1>ECR is sixty five on Sleeper, he's sixty nine on Yahoo.

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<v Speaker 1>He's seventy two on ESPN. For I don't know why

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<v Speaker 1>he is one hundred and eleven. So he is absolutely buried.

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<v Speaker 1>And you know, look, if you're very very pragmatic about

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<v Speaker 1>your league you're going in, you're setting your pre draft

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<v Speaker 1>rankings and all that stuff. I know, most people don't

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<v Speaker 1>have time for that. Most people don't bother with it.

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<v Speaker 1>So this is just so you are in the room,

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<v Speaker 1>you know what to expect from each side, which player

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<v Speaker 1>are going to be expensive, which positions are more expensive

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<v Speaker 1>than the other, and you know, you don't have to

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<v Speaker 1>know every name, but it's good to have a couple

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<v Speaker 2>And an important thing too, for context before we jump

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<v Speaker 2>into it, is this is what it looks like in

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<v Speaker 2>the draft room. Correct. That's always is.

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<v Speaker 1>Me opening up a real live draft room for all

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<v Speaker 1>of these and I copy them down. That's the biggest

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<v Speaker 1>pain in the ass.

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<v Speaker 2>It is a huge pain in the ass for you.

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<v Speaker 1>It's not the pre rank that you see on the

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<v Speaker 1>website typically goes by fantasy points, not by where the

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<v Speaker 1>guys are ranked. Yahoo, i think, does go by where

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<v Speaker 1>they are actually ranked, and not by their projected fantasy points.

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<v Speaker 1>But I have to open up and keep a room

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<v Speaker 1>open for ESPN. I have to keep a room open

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<v Speaker 1>for Sleeper. Sleeper is actually really easy because you can

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<v Speaker 1>do your own and then just roll down the whole list.

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<v Speaker 1>So Sleeper is not a pain at all. But ESPN,

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<v Speaker 1>as always, is annoying, and Yahoo can be annoying as well.

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<v Speaker 1>But we got them all here. We got them all

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<v Speaker 1>locked and loaded. I'm sure there's something I messed up

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<v Speaker 1>on the sheet because I'm not AI and I did

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<v Speaker 1>do it myself, But most of this is going to

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<v Speaker 1>be correct, and you guys can check it out. It's

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<v Speaker 1>available in this league dot com. You can check it

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<v Speaker 1>as a post over there.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and I think it's important because there definitely were

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<v Speaker 2>like way way years past where we would rely even

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<v Speaker 2>on like some articles. You know, it would be like

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<v Speaker 2>this is the ESPN rank sheet and we kind of

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<v Speaker 2>post though or whatever it was, and we would use that.

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<v Speaker 2>But many that was many, many years ago. By the way,

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<v Speaker 2>you got to remember we've been we've been around longer

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<v Speaker 2>than we think. Sometimes, like when.

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't realize that they didn't match up in the

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<v Speaker 1>draft room, Yeah, from before a long period different.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, we're reminded how old we were getting in this

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<v Speaker 2>when like I had a guy on Prospect one, great

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<v Speaker 2>guy by the way, his name is Lucas on Prospect one,

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<v Speaker 2>and like we're chatting and he was like, oh, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>he's like I love this show Prospectly he's like I

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<v Speaker 2>you know, he's like, I mean he didn't essentially say

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<v Speaker 2>I grew up listening to it. He's like, I've been

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<v Speaker 2>listening to it back in the old days, and I'm

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<v Speaker 2>assuming like he was a good teena. We've been doing

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<v Speaker 2>this for twelve or thirteen years, which is a disgusting

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<v Speaker 2>amount of time. It's almost about the age of my sons.

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<v Speaker 1>Like I used to listen to it in homeroom before

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<v Speaker 1>class and you're like.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, oh, that would be disgusting. But the reference to

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<v Speaker 2>that is like in my brain, I might be like, oh, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>we did that a couple of years ago. That actually

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<v Speaker 2>or someone. I mean, maybe you will. I don't know

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<v Speaker 2>when you see and you can use it as a

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<v Speaker 2>and you look at this stuff, they don't even exist

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<v Speaker 2>on these sheets. Malik Neighbors specifically is not really a

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<v Speaker 2>Does that make you even knowing what the injury is

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<v Speaker 2>and cuts? Is that something where you want to bring

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<v Speaker 2>Because like in three original well, but but in like

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<v Speaker 2>Neighbors July thirtieth or July thirty first ain't gonna be

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<v Speaker 2>return value, which originally was like a top ten overall

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<v Speaker 2>white out. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>I think Seth and I were actually talking about this

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<v Speaker 1>But because he just moving straight back to seven, right,

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<v Speaker 1>He's like, I'm just gonna move him back to seven.

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<v Speaker 1>I saw him cutting. He's fine, and I understand that. Yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I understand that I'm I can't get there though, right,

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<v Speaker 1>So I had him at twenty two because the couple

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<v Speaker 1>you might miss four to five weeks of the regular season.

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<v Speaker 1>That was the the story out there. Now, I probably

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<v Speaker 1>shouldn't have overreacted to that.

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<v Speaker 2>Did you get No, I didn't.

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<v Speaker 1>No, I didn't. All I did was what I did,

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<v Speaker 1>and this is it's going to continue the same thing

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<v Speaker 1>that I did just now. I have a tier from

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<v Speaker 1>thirteen to twenty two. I moved him to the bottom

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<v Speaker 1>of the tier.

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<v Speaker 2>That was what he did with stribbling in the previous episode.

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<v Speaker 2>By the way, we did the pure Saul Stribbling conversation

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<v Speaker 2>and you were like, I might right, tribbling does not matter, Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>So I'm just yeah, yeah, you are. You're not wrong

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<v Speaker 2>in what you're.

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<v Speaker 1>But so I moved him to the top of this

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<v Speaker 1>tier from twenty two to thirteen. So that's a big move.

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<v Speaker 1>That's nine spots from where I had Wait, it's a

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<v Speaker 1>tier or this tier that I have among wide receivers. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>is from thirteen to twenty two.

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<v Speaker 2>I had him in two.

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<v Speaker 1>No, I moved him from twenty two to thirteen, just oh, gotcha, gotcha.

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<v Speaker 1>Four following I had him at thirteen, and I moved

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<v Speaker 1>him down to the bottom of the tier because they said,

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<v Speaker 1>all right, this probably I didn't want to bury him.

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<v Speaker 1>He's still a wide receiver two. No matter which way

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<v Speaker 1>you cut it, it's just a low end to a

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<v Speaker 1>high end wide receiver two. Now, this Pollyannonius that we're

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<v Speaker 1>seeing from him is also not complete and total and

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<v Speaker 1>for sure. I so I'm not going to move him

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<v Speaker 1>back up into the top ten unless he gets into

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<v Speaker 1>a preseason game and we see it right or like

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<v Speaker 1>they're holding me out of the preseason. But he looks

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<v Speaker 1>awesome every day in camp or something. Right, we have

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<v Speaker 1>a long time to go before a lot of drafts.

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<v Speaker 1>Not everybody does. I understand that. But if I'm drafting today,

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<v Speaker 1>I will take him as a wide receiver two, not

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<v Speaker 1>a wide receiver one. That's all. But if you want

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<v Speaker 1>to take him, yeah, yeah, if he continues to every week,

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<v Speaker 1>it's more every week, it's more like, if he looks

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<v Speaker 1>good for another week, I'll probably move him up to eleven.

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<v Speaker 2>What's your peak? Then, what's the peak?

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<v Speaker 1>Seven? Even the peak? Yeah, seven is the absolute peak

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<v Speaker 1>for me because I would put him to me behind

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<v Speaker 1>Jamar Puka, JSN A manra CD Jefferson, and I think

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<v Speaker 1>that's exactly where he belongs.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, wait, I think that's fair. I want to say no,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm going to have to look because i think in

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<v Speaker 2>all of that, I don't think I'm that far off

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<v Speaker 2>from you. I didn't have him as low as you did.

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<v Speaker 2>But let me see where I moved him. I moved him.

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<v Speaker 2>Pull up my ranks on Fantasy Pros, which will be

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<v Speaker 2>up I've got see. I think I'm even I have

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<v Speaker 2>to make this move. I've currently got him at fifteen

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<v Speaker 2>and I'm a little bit lower than you. I'm trying

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<v Speaker 2>to find the p I feel like I could get

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<v Speaker 2>him to nine or ten. Seven is pretty aggressive. Who's

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<v Speaker 2>the guy that gets bumped? Is it London or A. J. Brown?

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<v Speaker 1>London? I have? I have Brown at ten, so i've uh.

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<v Speaker 2>Also ceedee Lamb is inside your top six London and Brown? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>Chrish for neighbors, got it?

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, Yeah, I have I got London, Nico Pickens, Brown, McMillan,

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<v Speaker 1>o'lave in the next year and that that is the

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<v Speaker 1>back end of wide receiver one seven to twelve and

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<v Speaker 1>then thirteen. I have Neighbors now, which pushed Rashi Rice

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<v Speaker 1>down to fourteen, and then I have Higgins and a

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<v Speaker 1>big so uh all the way down to twenty two.

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<v Speaker 1>So but you know, a wide receiver too. Any way

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<v Speaker 1>you cut it. If you want to have him high, great,

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<v Speaker 1>If you want to have him down at you know,

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<v Speaker 1>in the twenties, also okay to me. But because of

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<v Speaker 1>this positive news, I did move him up. But I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not breaking the mold and putting him like he's If

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<v Speaker 1>he was one hundred percent of healthy, I would have

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<v Speaker 1>him at seven. They're just not willing to do that yet.

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<v Speaker 2>And what makes it interesting in relation to the topic

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<v Speaker 2>here is it's like this. You have to look at places.

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<v Speaker 2>So in ESPN specifically, they don't really move a ton.

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<v Speaker 2>You always have the option in draft rooms to like

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<v Speaker 2>click by ADP, and unfortunately in bigger places like the

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<v Speaker 2>ADP might be slower to move. But like Malik Neighbors

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<v Speaker 2>might be a specific situation where he ranks in a

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<v Speaker 2>very you know, succinct place right now, but like it's

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<v Speaker 2>going to start to stretch and it's going to start

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<v Speaker 2>to change and stuff. But a place like ESPN might

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<v Speaker 2>not really move him a place like Sleeper is the

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<v Speaker 2>most likely to be the most aggressive. Another one of

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<v Speaker 2>those things. Let me actually take a look at this.

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<v Speaker 2>I swear to god, I am not trying to be

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<v Speaker 2>the biggest f and homer for my company at all.

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<v Speaker 2>But we have real time ADP.

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<v Speaker 1>I use the tool.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's kind of the main thing is we actually

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<v Speaker 2>have real time ADP. Okay, so this is interesting. So

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<v Speaker 2>Malik Neighbors, I don't do you know where he was

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<v Speaker 2>I don't you probably don't know where he was ranked before.

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<v Speaker 2>But the real time ADP has him at wide receiver

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<v Speaker 2>nineteen right now. But that is.

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<v Speaker 1>I think that sounds right based on like you know,

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<v Speaker 1>probably more drafts every day, but the last two weeks

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<v Speaker 1>he's probably being taken in the twenties.

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<v Speaker 2>So yeah, and I think we just got this up.

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<v Speaker 2>And by the way, it's pulling from Yahoo and Sleeper

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<v Speaker 2>because it doesn't have the twenty four hour data. That's

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<v Speaker 2>the most interesting one. And that's kind of what I'm

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<v Speaker 2>trying to get at, is like, if you want to

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<v Speaker 2>track it, maybe you can use just type in like

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<v Speaker 2>Fantasy Pro's real time ADP. And he's currently as Wide

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<v Speaker 2>Receiver nineteen. You can see the trends over seven days,

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<v Speaker 2>and then you can see the trends over twenty four hours,

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<v Speaker 2>and I think those are gonna be kind of dramatic.

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<v Speaker 2>Those are gonna end up becoming dramatic changes that you

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<v Speaker 2>can kind of follow. So like we've already pushed, we've

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<v Speaker 2>already moved him up to. You know, you've got him

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<v Speaker 2>at thirteen. I've got him at fifteen. I kind of

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<v Speaker 2>want to get him to I think I can make

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<v Speaker 2>an easy leap over guys like Garrett Wilson and Chris

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<v Speaker 2>all Love even though he got that big ass contract.

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<v Speaker 2>I think you can make those adjustments. But he's not

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<v Speaker 2>going to show up in a lot of those places.

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<v Speaker 2>So this is gonna be one of those where you're

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<v Speaker 2>really wanted, like true understanding of who he is positionally

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<v Speaker 2>in these other sites. By the way, he is ECR

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<v Speaker 2>nineteen overall, but he has already been moved up as

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<v Speaker 2>because you mentioned not just seven. This is actually really interesting.

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<v Speaker 2>Here's the last thing our system under consensus rank is

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<v Speaker 2>showing best is Wide Receiver seven. But I don't think

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<v Speaker 2>it's caught up. There are actually four people that are

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<v Speaker 2>ranking him higher than seven on ECR right now, And

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<v Speaker 2>what's his overall ECR right now nineteen because the lowest

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<v Speaker 2>is thirty eight. That's probably due to maybe a few

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<v Speaker 2>people not completely updating. You actually haven't updated as I'm

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<v Speaker 2>looking on here.

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<v Speaker 1>Now, I need to updated. I haven't updated in there.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so I think like over the next couple of days,

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<v Speaker 2>you're going to see so like ECR in real time

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<v Speaker 2>ADP and all those are not quite matching. Actually real

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<v Speaker 2>time ADP versus his rank actually does. But again, there

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<v Speaker 2>are four people that are higher than seven. The highest

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<v Speaker 2>is at five, and I do see our boy Seth

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<v Speaker 2>Wilcock who's at seven. Also Brad Evans Bright Evans, who's

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<v Speaker 2>he's got him at seven two, So there are I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>I actually wish I could pull this number. This is crazy.

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<v Speaker 2>There are so many above nineteen right now. I don't

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<v Speaker 2>think I could unless I used AI could count this,

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<v Speaker 2>I would eyeball it to say thirty thirty five people

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<v Speaker 2>that have him higher. But there's just a big amount

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<v Speaker 2>of people, So check those things out. Interesting to this

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<v Speaker 2>conversation that we can't really relate it because he doesn't qualify.

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<v Speaker 2>He wasn't a deal or not a deal on any

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<v Speaker 2>of these sites. He's indifferent. But let's take a break.

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<v Speaker 2>When we come back, you can maybe just lay out

420
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<v Speaker 2>a couple of trends if any trends. Like I said before,

421
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<v Speaker 2>one might be sleeper, might be one of those ones

422
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<v Speaker 2>that kind of like actively updates a little bit quicker

423
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<v Speaker 2>than everything else. We also did a Yahoo draft the

424
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<v Speaker 2>other day, and I thought things were kind of weird.

425
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<v Speaker 2>You know, it was the first It was one of

426
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<v Speaker 2>the first times I noticed we didn't have Yahoo adjust

427
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<v Speaker 2>to sup. We did a super Flex draft and they

428
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<v Speaker 2>did not adjust their X rank stuff to super which

429
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<v Speaker 2>I thought was really odd as well. It just kind

430
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<v Speaker 2>of like played out as normal. So we'll talk about

431
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<v Speaker 2>trends if there are any from BOGS, and then we're

432
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<v Speaker 2>gonna jump into the four categories. We will do it

433
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<v Speaker 2>right here and in this league after this. It's in

434
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<v Speaker 2>this league what plants crave.

435
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<v Speaker 1>It's got electrolytes.

436
00:20:17.000 --> 00:20:18.400
<v Speaker 2>What are electrolytes?

437
00:20:18.559 --> 00:20:21.599
<v Speaker 1>Do you even know? It's what they used to make.

438
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<v Speaker 2>In this league. I'm the smartest guy in the world,

439
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<v Speaker 2>Like you test.

440
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<v Speaker 1>She took him prison.

441
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<v Speaker 2>Carls Junior all right, Ranks Analysis, Sleeper, Yahoo, ESPN, those

442
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<v Speaker 2>are the three. We do have one we're gonna jump

443
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<v Speaker 2>into before, which is it's hyper focused on ECR. But

444
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<v Speaker 2>what it's going to be is where a player is

445
00:20:42.279 --> 00:20:46.119
<v Speaker 2>either higher or lower across the board on a site

446
00:20:46.279 --> 00:20:48.559
<v Speaker 2>versus ECR, because ECR is not the be all, end all,

447
00:20:48.640 --> 00:20:52.720
<v Speaker 2>it's not an ADP. It is just the average rank

448
00:20:52.839 --> 00:20:56.000
<v Speaker 2>of everybody put together. But we're going to highlight and

449
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<v Speaker 2>tell you these players on these sites or what these

450
00:20:58.880 --> 00:21:01.079
<v Speaker 2>players are where they are, and what it does is

451
00:21:01.119 --> 00:21:03.359
<v Speaker 2>it highlights saying these are just deals versus what the

452
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<v Speaker 2>consensus is for better or for worse, and these are

453
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<v Speaker 2>guys that are gonna cost way more. But before we

454
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<v Speaker 2>do so, trends ESPN, Yahoo's Sleeper, Were there any trends

455
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<v Speaker 2>like I mentioned one might be more active into the

456
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<v Speaker 2>current streets. Does one have insanity? You already kind of

457
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<v Speaker 2>alluded to ESPN as being kind of a dumpster fire

458
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<v Speaker 2>in that they just don't adjust things and they do

459
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<v Speaker 2>not adjust the board versus what type of format you're

460
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<v Speaker 2>playing in.

461
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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, we can start with ESPN because they are pretty crazy.

462
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<v Speaker 1>They have the most So if you're looking at this sheet,

463
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<v Speaker 1>if you're in our Patreon, of course you can see

464
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<v Speaker 1>I have a bright green. This is for guys that

465
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<v Speaker 1>are more than a round different from ECR. Right, your

466
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<v Speaker 1>twelve picks are more different from ECR, either positively or negatively.

467
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<v Speaker 1>ESPN has the most by a lot. ESPN always does,

468
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<v Speaker 1>but I will say that it's not as much as

469
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<v Speaker 1>they've had in the past. Yahoo barely has any, which

470
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<v Speaker 1>was surprising to me, and Sleeper has it at certain positions.

471
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<v Speaker 1>But when you look at ESPN, you see who is

472
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<v Speaker 1>cheap here. Initially, there's a glut of wide receivers that

473
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<v Speaker 1>are cheap, like AJ Brown is more than a round

474
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<v Speaker 1>difference as ecr's fourteen, he's twenty eighth on ESPN. T

475
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<v Speaker 1>Higgins is down at forty six, whereas DCR is overall

476
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<v Speaker 1>at thirty. There's a couple of quarterbacks are very cheap,

477
00:22:31.119 --> 00:22:35.599
<v Speaker 1>and quarterbacks for the actual trend, but it takes a

478
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<v Speaker 1>weird turn after the top quarterbacks here, not all top ones,

479
00:22:40.119 --> 00:22:44.160
<v Speaker 1>but Lamar May Burrow and then Caleb and Herbert are cheap.

480
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<v Speaker 1>After that you have like the the RB threes Jalen, Warren,

481
00:22:49.519 --> 00:22:54.440
<v Speaker 1>Ramandre Stevenson, Rico, Donell, Dobbins, Harvey, Manogai Korum, all being

482
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<v Speaker 1>skipped in ESPN system, and they are cheap everywhere. I mean,

483
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<v Speaker 1>Warren ECR is sixty eight, his costs on ESPN is

484
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<v Speaker 1>ninety six, seventy three for Remondra ninety seven on ESPN,

485
00:23:09.279 --> 00:23:13.480
<v Speaker 1>eighty four ECR for Dowbtle ninety eight on ESPN. So

486
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<v Speaker 1>you see a glut of running backs in here, then

487
00:23:17.160 --> 00:23:19.000
<v Speaker 1>we get back to the back end of quarterbacks are

488
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<v Speaker 1>cheap as well. Not a lot.

489
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<v Speaker 2>There's a trend. It doesn't sound like there's a trend.

490
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<v Speaker 1>No, that not an official trend. It is certain players.

491
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<v Speaker 1>Maybe we can call quarterback maybe a trend, but it

492
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<v Speaker 1>seems like wide.

493
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<v Speaker 2>Receivers a second. But I don't see quarterbacks outside of

494
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<v Speaker 2>like maybe to your well, no, it's never mind. We're

495
00:23:38.400 --> 00:23:40.000
<v Speaker 2>gonna talk about it. Quite a few wide receivers are

496
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<v Speaker 2>lower than ECR. There's only one. It's just court like.

497
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<v Speaker 2>There's five quarterbacks inside the top eight that are cheap

498
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<v Speaker 2>on there. So it looks like quarterbacks being cheap on

499
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<v Speaker 2>ESPN is the only trend which is different from them,

500
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<v Speaker 2>because the same thing is the weirdness. ESPN always floats

501
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<v Speaker 2>around with weirdness on their ranks. But I think past

502
00:24:00.480 --> 00:24:02.359
<v Speaker 2>it might have also been tight ends, which doesn't really

503
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<v Speaker 2>necessarily seem to be the case.

504
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<v Speaker 1>It's it's quarterbacks and then expensive, I would say, if

505
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<v Speaker 1>we're looking at one trend, because it's kind of the same,

506
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<v Speaker 1>there's like a glut of running backs and a bunch

507
00:24:12.200 --> 00:24:15.960
<v Speaker 1>of wide receivers, but it's rookies are expensive here and the.

508
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<v Speaker 2>Biggest a different site are still ESPN.

509
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<v Speaker 1>No, I'm still on ESPN. I'm just looking at the

510
00:24:20.839 --> 00:24:25.680
<v Speaker 1>expensive players below the cheap players. Jeremiah Love right, his

511
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<v Speaker 1>ESCR is thirty three, and there was some bad news

512
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<v Speaker 1>that we talked about about Jeremiah Love and what Nathaniel

513
00:24:32.279 --> 00:24:35.440
<v Speaker 1>Hackett said the other day. He is a first round

514
00:24:35.519 --> 00:24:39.000
<v Speaker 1>player on ESPN in a half PPR and PPR.

515
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<v Speaker 2>This also is very outside of the obviousness of it.

516
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<v Speaker 2>It's also representative of like the I mean because I

517
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<v Speaker 2>want to talk about these guys as a whole, not

518
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<v Speaker 2>just specific to the website, but not only is he

519
00:24:52.119 --> 00:24:56.240
<v Speaker 2>crazy high here for ESPN that he's going they're just

520
00:24:56.240 --> 00:24:58.960
<v Speaker 2>not going to adjust like that. That's getting back to it,

521
00:24:58.960 --> 00:25:01.559
<v Speaker 2>like you're probably not going to see any crazy adjustment,

522
00:25:01.599 --> 00:25:03.279
<v Speaker 2>and it is wildly different than that.

523
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<v Speaker 1>And he's expensive everywhere like he's one of those guys

524
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<v Speaker 1>that will go through. But it you know, he's twenty

525
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<v Speaker 1>four and twenty six on the other two websites, and

526
00:25:10.559 --> 00:25:14.119
<v Speaker 1>he's twelve on ESPN. So but rookies overall are high.

527
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<v Speaker 1>Carneal tates on this list. Tyson Lemon are all on

528
00:25:18.240 --> 00:25:22.960
<v Speaker 1>this list. So a lot of expensive rookies on ESPN

529
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<v Speaker 1>and that is by far the most. Like you look

530
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<v Speaker 1>at Yahoo, Yahoo only has ten players that are more

531
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<v Speaker 1>than a round different. Two of them are quarterbacks. There's

532
00:25:32.400 --> 00:25:36.119
<v Speaker 1>three wide receiver, four wide receivers in there. They have

533
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<v Speaker 1>more expensive players, but not by a lot either. Pre

534
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<v Speaker 1>level headed from Yahoo. I think the weirdness of Yahoo

535
00:25:43.079 --> 00:25:46.359
<v Speaker 1>is they won't adjust for super flex like you mentioned,

536
00:25:46.640 --> 00:25:48.640
<v Speaker 1>and the draft room is different this year, so it

537
00:25:48.680 --> 00:25:51.920
<v Speaker 1>looks a little weirder, but not a big thing. Maybe

538
00:25:52.039 --> 00:25:54.799
<v Speaker 1>mid tier running or wide receivers excuse me, are a

539
00:25:54.839 --> 00:25:58.559
<v Speaker 1>little more expensive on Yahoo. Sleeper has some differences, but

540
00:25:58.640 --> 00:26:01.279
<v Speaker 1>really it's just that this is the trend of what

541
00:26:01.319 --> 00:26:06.680
<v Speaker 1>everybody wants. It's expensive or it's cheap. Quarterbacks May Burrow, Herbert,

542
00:26:06.720 --> 00:26:12.559
<v Speaker 1>Caleb Williams, Trevor Lawrence all around or more lower on

543
00:26:12.720 --> 00:26:15.880
<v Speaker 1>Sleeper than the even the ECR is and I feel

544
00:26:15.880 --> 00:26:19.680
<v Speaker 1>like ECR is already muting quarterback costs in a one

545
00:26:19.759 --> 00:26:23.920
<v Speaker 1>QB league, so very cheap on sleeper, and then tight

546
00:26:24.039 --> 00:26:25.759
<v Speaker 1>ends are a little more expensive. I think a lot

547
00:26:25.759 --> 00:26:28.880
<v Speaker 1>of people on sleeper probably play tight end premium. So

548
00:26:29.119 --> 00:26:32.559
<v Speaker 1>it's really the secondary tight ends that for whatever reason

549
00:26:32.599 --> 00:26:36.279
<v Speaker 1>are expensive. Rondez Gas and still like near one hundred

550
00:26:36.279 --> 00:26:37.759
<v Speaker 1>when his ECR is one p fifty.

551
00:26:38.279 --> 00:26:38.519
<v Speaker 2>A J.

552
00:26:38.640 --> 00:26:40.799
<v Speaker 1>Barner is one thirty five where his ECR is one

553
00:26:40.880 --> 00:26:45.759
<v Speaker 1>seventy six. So expensive tight ends, cheap quarterbacks on sleeper.

554
00:26:46.519 --> 00:26:51.480
<v Speaker 2>Okay, so let's jump in to the first portion of ECR.

555
00:26:51.599 --> 00:26:54.519
<v Speaker 2>So this is ECR focused. These are the players some

556
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<v Speaker 2>of that you mentioned, some of them that are a

557
00:26:57.359 --> 00:27:01.000
<v Speaker 2>deal comparative to ECR. So look at that whatever you want.

558
00:27:01.279 --> 00:27:06.079
<v Speaker 2>You could a say the experts are wrong, you know,

559
00:27:06.200 --> 00:27:09.720
<v Speaker 2>the like the experts are overvaluing these players because look,

560
00:27:09.759 --> 00:27:12.599
<v Speaker 2>they're cheaper on every site, or you could say the

561
00:27:12.680 --> 00:27:16.079
<v Speaker 2>sites have not properly built in versus where the consensus

562
00:27:16.119 --> 00:27:19.480
<v Speaker 2>ranks are. That can also be I lean a little

563
00:27:19.519 --> 00:27:21.759
<v Speaker 2>bit more towards that, because what you will have is

564
00:27:21.799 --> 00:27:24.839
<v Speaker 2>like there are some sites like Yahoo is going to

565
00:27:24.920 --> 00:27:27.559
<v Speaker 2>build off of some of their personal rankers. So like

566
00:27:27.599 --> 00:27:30.960
<v Speaker 2>if you see a player cheaper on Yahoo, that could

567
00:27:30.960 --> 00:27:33.319
<v Speaker 2>be a little bit representative of like maybe those specific

568
00:27:33.319 --> 00:27:36.039
<v Speaker 2>people that are contributed to the ranks. They're just the

569
00:27:36.119 --> 00:27:38.559
<v Speaker 2>lower ones on that. And if you hold I mean

570
00:27:38.559 --> 00:27:41.920
<v Speaker 2>you should, yeah, who's got bangers guys there, But you

571
00:27:42.039 --> 00:27:44.880
<v Speaker 2>might be like, I would rather have the ECR consensus

572
00:27:45.000 --> 00:27:47.400
<v Speaker 2>versus just what Yahoo is doing. So however you want

573
00:27:47.440 --> 00:27:48.440
<v Speaker 2>to look at it, I'm not going to tell you

574
00:27:48.480 --> 00:27:51.880
<v Speaker 2>how to do it. All we know is that in

575
00:27:51.920 --> 00:27:56.640
<v Speaker 2>this instance, these are players that are deals. They're cheaper

576
00:27:57.000 --> 00:28:01.160
<v Speaker 2>on all of the websites versus how ECR is ranking them.

577
00:28:01.519 --> 00:28:04.759
<v Speaker 2>And there are four players that come out that are

578
00:28:04.839 --> 00:28:08.559
<v Speaker 2>theoretical first rounders, three that aren't in question. A monro

579
00:28:08.680 --> 00:28:12.920
<v Speaker 2>Saint Brown, Cede Lamb, Justin Jefferson, and AJ Brown are

580
00:28:13.319 --> 00:28:17.319
<v Speaker 2>all deals. They are going lower or they show up

581
00:28:17.400 --> 00:28:21.079
<v Speaker 2>lower in Yahoo Sleeper in ESPN system than when ECR

582
00:28:21.200 --> 00:28:25.559
<v Speaker 2>has them. It is a little nitpicky when it comes

583
00:28:25.559 --> 00:28:27.880
<v Speaker 2>to a Monro, cd and Jefferson in that they're not

584
00:28:27.920 --> 00:28:30.359
<v Speaker 2>that much lower, but they just are lower. So like

585
00:28:30.400 --> 00:28:34.799
<v Speaker 2>you might if you have the the eleventh pick in sleeper,

586
00:28:35.359 --> 00:28:37.359
<v Speaker 2>you might have a chance at him where ECR says

587
00:28:37.359 --> 00:28:39.599
<v Speaker 2>he's ten or you know, the better one is a

588
00:28:39.599 --> 00:28:42.480
<v Speaker 2>Mona Saint Brown, where he is six on ECR, but

589
00:28:42.559 --> 00:28:44.599
<v Speaker 2>he is eight on the other sites. If you have

590
00:28:44.599 --> 00:28:46.160
<v Speaker 2>the eighth pick, you've got a shot at him where

591
00:28:46.240 --> 00:28:48.440
<v Speaker 2>ESR wouldn't tell you. But AJ Brown is the one

592
00:28:48.440 --> 00:28:50.839
<v Speaker 2>that dominantly shows up. That is, this is the real

593
00:28:50.839 --> 00:28:56.680
<v Speaker 2>big change. He is ECR fourteen rankers love him, but sleeper,

594
00:28:56.720 --> 00:29:00.200
<v Speaker 2>he's at twenty. Yahoo's at twenty four and then twenty eight.

595
00:29:00.200 --> 00:29:03.039
<v Speaker 2>That's that one you're mentioning on ESPN. AJ Brown is

596
00:29:03.640 --> 00:29:06.680
<v Speaker 2>more than a round higher on him. So very interesting

597
00:29:06.720 --> 00:29:10.079
<v Speaker 2>that it's like all wide receivers. And then guess what's

598
00:29:10.079 --> 00:29:12.000
<v Speaker 2>gonna happen when we get to the next By the way,

599
00:29:12.079 --> 00:29:14.759
<v Speaker 2>it's going to be a running back on others. Yeah, yes,

600
00:29:14.839 --> 00:29:17.359
<v Speaker 2>so let's just talk. Yeah, comparing to them, it's Christian

601
00:29:17.440 --> 00:29:22.519
<v Speaker 2>McCaffrey more expensive, Jonathan Taylor more expensive, Amaron Hampton more expensive.

602
00:29:22.559 --> 00:29:25.839
<v Speaker 2>So three running backs, two which are first rounders, are

603
00:29:26.000 --> 00:29:29.559
<v Speaker 2>more expensive on every site versus where ECR is. And

604
00:29:29.599 --> 00:29:31.599
<v Speaker 2>that does not shock me at all because guess what

605
00:29:32.240 --> 00:29:35.400
<v Speaker 2>wide receivers rule the land for all the rankers out there,

606
00:29:35.559 --> 00:29:37.920
<v Speaker 2>but the sites are not putting that in. So what

607
00:29:38.039 --> 00:29:39.599
<v Speaker 2>kind of breakdown do you want to throw in? As

608
00:29:39.640 --> 00:29:42.319
<v Speaker 2>far as running backs, those running backs being higher Taylor

609
00:29:42.359 --> 00:29:45.640
<v Speaker 2>and McCaffrey versus four wide receivers one of aj Brown,

610
00:29:45.680 --> 00:29:48.599
<v Speaker 2>who's dramatically lower than how the rankers are putting up.

611
00:29:48.839 --> 00:29:51.440
<v Speaker 1>I mean, at least in the cheap prices you have,

612
00:29:52.440 --> 00:29:55.799
<v Speaker 1>you'll get other players mixed in in the top fifty,

613
00:29:56.680 --> 00:30:00.519
<v Speaker 1>but inside the top fifty in terms of expensive players,

614
00:30:00.839 --> 00:30:04.519
<v Speaker 1>it's only RB's right specifically the first round as well,

615
00:30:04.559 --> 00:30:08.119
<v Speaker 1>but all the way down to fifty three, it's all

616
00:30:08.240 --> 00:30:11.079
<v Speaker 1>running backs that are expensive on these sites. So I

617
00:30:11.119 --> 00:30:14.039
<v Speaker 1>think the trend is telling you just overall that running

618
00:30:14.079 --> 00:30:16.359
<v Speaker 1>backs are going to be more expensive this year on

619
00:30:16.400 --> 00:30:19.079
<v Speaker 1>every site that you go to. So just keep that

620
00:30:19.119 --> 00:30:20.880
<v Speaker 1>in mind when you're drafting. If you have a zero

621
00:30:21.039 --> 00:30:23.759
<v Speaker 1>RB or a hero RB strategy, however you want to

622
00:30:23.799 --> 00:30:26.759
<v Speaker 1>do it, just understand that the rbs are going to

623
00:30:26.799 --> 00:30:29.319
<v Speaker 1>be more expensive in twenty twenty six, and they have

624
00:30:29.440 --> 00:30:33.319
<v Speaker 1>been typically the last few years. That's all. So it

625
00:30:33.400 --> 00:30:36.400
<v Speaker 1>is all rbs on the expensive You at least have

626
00:30:36.440 --> 00:30:41.880
<v Speaker 1>a couple other deals initially in the cheap prices. Beyond

627
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<v Speaker 1>the top, the first round is all wide receivers here,

628
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<v Speaker 1>but beyond that there is a little mix of tight

629
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<v Speaker 1>ends and qbs, but not many cheap running backs really

630
00:30:52.319 --> 00:30:53.039
<v Speaker 1>at any point.

631
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<v Speaker 2>So the when we move down here, brock Bauers comes

632
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<v Speaker 2>in as the fifth cheaper than every other site, ESPN

633
00:31:01.200 --> 00:31:03.640
<v Speaker 2>being the specific I'm not gonna get too hyper focus

634
00:31:03.759 --> 00:31:06.079
<v Speaker 2>on the actual websites because we're going to break down

635
00:31:06.079 --> 00:31:09.119
<v Speaker 2>each one, but that is what I'm telling you. ESPN

636
00:31:09.160 --> 00:31:10.880
<v Speaker 2>seems to be the cheapest on that, and there's a

637
00:31:10.880 --> 00:31:13.599
<v Speaker 2>little tiny as you mentioned before, as we've alread talked about,

638
00:31:13.599 --> 00:31:16.559
<v Speaker 2>a Tucker Craft is like wildly cheaper. So there's two

639
00:31:16.759 --> 00:31:19.799
<v Speaker 2>tight ends that are cheaper there. Brock Bowers comes in

640
00:31:20.400 --> 00:31:23.640
<v Speaker 2>a couple picks cheaper on every site versus what ECR has.

641
00:31:23.880 --> 00:31:27.000
<v Speaker 2>George Pickens is another one of those. ECR twenty one.

642
00:31:27.640 --> 00:31:30.640
<v Speaker 2>Yahoo's the closest to it, but ESPN and Sleeper are

643
00:31:30.799 --> 00:31:33.839
<v Speaker 2>quite a bit higher, are lower. Everyone look at that,

644
00:31:33.880 --> 00:31:35.559
<v Speaker 2>and then Zay Flowers, I'm gonna make a quick little

645
00:31:35.559 --> 00:31:39.920
<v Speaker 2>stop there, your boy, he is ranked higher than everybody

646
00:31:40.240 --> 00:31:42.599
<v Speaker 2>is actually putting him in the website that boats really

647
00:31:42.640 --> 00:31:45.599
<v Speaker 2>well for you, and I guess I'm just gonna say

648
00:31:45.599 --> 00:31:46.880
<v Speaker 2>it on this one and I'm gonna stop doing it.

649
00:31:46.880 --> 00:31:49.799
<v Speaker 2>But Sleepers like dramatically lower than any other side. So

650
00:31:49.880 --> 00:31:51.759
<v Speaker 2>Sleeper is a place of Bogman's going on to play

651
00:31:51.799 --> 00:31:55.400
<v Speaker 2>because he is what twenty nine and he's forty six

652
00:31:55.440 --> 00:31:57.680
<v Speaker 2>on Sleeper, so that is more than a round value there.

653
00:31:57.720 --> 00:32:01.079
<v Speaker 2>So interesting couple names brock Bowers, Pickings and Flowers that

654
00:32:01.160 --> 00:32:03.920
<v Speaker 2>are cheaper on every site versus how the rankers are

655
00:32:03.920 --> 00:32:04.519
<v Speaker 2>putting them out.

656
00:32:04.920 --> 00:32:08.559
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I don't think that Bowers is very actionable, but

657
00:32:08.640 --> 00:32:12.559
<v Speaker 1>it's just interesting that he is cheaper versus ECR on

658
00:32:12.640 --> 00:32:15.440
<v Speaker 1>all of them. But yes, a Flowers. I mean again,

659
00:32:15.559 --> 00:32:17.440
<v Speaker 1>if you're just if you're in a draft and you're

660
00:32:17.480 --> 00:32:20.680
<v Speaker 1>just pulling away a couple names from this episode, that's

661
00:32:20.720 --> 00:32:23.039
<v Speaker 1>all that really matters is knowing that these guys are cheap.

662
00:32:23.200 --> 00:32:28.000
<v Speaker 1>And Zay Flowers is an outstanding deal in Sleeper forty

663
00:32:28.079 --> 00:32:31.240
<v Speaker 1>six rank where he's twenty nine in ECR. He thirty

664
00:32:31.279 --> 00:32:33.559
<v Speaker 1>three on Yaho and he asked, pans you get four

665
00:32:33.599 --> 00:32:36.759
<v Speaker 1>picks of a discount but not much, but yeah, great,

666
00:32:36.880 --> 00:32:40.039
<v Speaker 1>great value on Zay and I'm annoyed that Ericson likes

667
00:32:40.079 --> 00:32:42.039
<v Speaker 1>him as much because I'm on a forty subver episode

668
00:32:42.039 --> 00:32:44.319
<v Speaker 1>with him tomorrow and he picks a before I get.

669
00:32:44.519 --> 00:32:46.319
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you can't have him? Yeah, I mean me and

670
00:32:46.400 --> 00:32:49.119
<v Speaker 2>Erickson have been fighting over Jalen Waddle incorrectly for a

671
00:32:49.119 --> 00:32:51.240
<v Speaker 2>couple of years. And he's going to be a like

672
00:32:51.240 --> 00:32:54.880
<v Speaker 2>a wattle Flowers build. Give me a watterle a Mecca build.

673
00:32:54.920 --> 00:32:57.400
<v Speaker 2>Oh love it all right, here's a clump. This is

674
00:32:57.440 --> 00:33:01.559
<v Speaker 2>between ECR forty two. I'm going to add the late

675
00:33:01.680 --> 00:33:03.799
<v Speaker 2>sixty one because there's a couple. There's three quarterbacks that

676
00:33:03.839 --> 00:33:05.880
<v Speaker 2>come in here. Kind of As mentioned before, ESPN is

677
00:33:05.880 --> 00:33:08.599
<v Speaker 2>the biggest value, but their values across the board. Drake May,

678
00:33:08.960 --> 00:33:11.079
<v Speaker 2>Drake May is actually one of the unique players. I

679
00:33:11.119 --> 00:33:12.960
<v Speaker 2>think he might be the only player I'm going to

680
00:33:13.000 --> 00:33:15.559
<v Speaker 2>scroll down. He's one of only two players. The other

681
00:33:15.559 --> 00:33:19.119
<v Speaker 2>player does not matter, it's cam Ward, I'll tell you.

682
00:33:19.160 --> 00:33:21.279
<v Speaker 2>But he is the only player that is more than

683
00:33:21.279 --> 00:33:24.079
<v Speaker 2>a round lower than where he's being ranked. So that

684
00:33:24.200 --> 00:33:27.640
<v Speaker 2>is one of those unique situations where you know rankers

685
00:33:27.640 --> 00:33:29.480
<v Speaker 2>are going in you people that have Drake May as

686
00:33:29.480 --> 00:33:33.319
<v Speaker 2>a number two quarterback. There's this distinction between like, oh,

687
00:33:33.359 --> 00:33:35.599
<v Speaker 2>I don't want to bury the quarterbacks and value and stuff.

688
00:33:35.640 --> 00:33:37.240
<v Speaker 2>But then when it comes to the websites and the

689
00:33:37.240 --> 00:33:39.160
<v Speaker 2>build and how they put it in more than a

690
00:33:39.279 --> 00:33:42.279
<v Speaker 2>round value versus where ECR is, I think that's really interesting.

691
00:33:42.359 --> 00:33:44.640
<v Speaker 2>Is like, that's a fun target. He's one of those.

692
00:33:44.680 --> 00:33:46.920
<v Speaker 2>I'll let you talk in a second. Joe Burrow also

693
00:33:47.440 --> 00:33:49.839
<v Speaker 2>not around across the board, but two of the website

694
00:33:49.880 --> 00:33:52.119
<v Speaker 2>Sleeper and ESPN have him more than a round. Those

695
00:33:52.200 --> 00:33:55.039
<v Speaker 2>guys are both in the forties. Mike Evans comes up

696
00:33:55.240 --> 00:33:58.599
<v Speaker 2>as a solid value. Again, that's one that I every

697
00:33:58.720 --> 00:34:01.079
<v Speaker 2>year I think he's on valued. I did a video

698
00:34:01.160 --> 00:34:03.200
<v Speaker 2>on this that he's one of the undervalued wide receivers.

699
00:34:03.240 --> 00:34:06.279
<v Speaker 2>He's forty fifty one on ECR, as low as seventy

700
00:34:06.359 --> 00:34:09.559
<v Speaker 2>nine on ESPN. Tucker Craft as you've already mentioned, and

701
00:34:09.559 --> 00:34:11.760
<v Speaker 2>then Kayleb Williams is the other one. Two of the

702
00:34:11.800 --> 00:34:15.639
<v Speaker 2>sites have him as more than a round higher, almost

703
00:34:15.719 --> 00:34:19.079
<v Speaker 2>two rounds. So Drake, May, Burrow, Evans, Craft and Williams

704
00:34:19.280 --> 00:34:23.480
<v Speaker 2>those are like middish round players that you are going

705
00:34:23.559 --> 00:34:26.119
<v Speaker 2>to find better if you care about what the consistence

706
00:34:26.199 --> 00:34:28.239
<v Speaker 2>ranks are on those. And Drake may just to me

707
00:34:28.360 --> 00:34:30.639
<v Speaker 2>is the most interesting one is that, like he just

708
00:34:30.639 --> 00:34:33.599
<v Speaker 2>shows up so much lower y'ahoo. Specifically, by the way,

709
00:34:34.000 --> 00:34:37.880
<v Speaker 2>Burrow was higher than Drake May. You know something, Drake

710
00:34:37.920 --> 00:34:39.760
<v Speaker 2>May is at the tippy top. I don't hate the

711
00:34:39.760 --> 00:34:41.960
<v Speaker 2>Burrow thing, but I jumped at the opportunity in the

712
00:34:42.000 --> 00:34:44.239
<v Speaker 2>super Flex mock because I'm I have May over Burrow.

713
00:34:44.320 --> 00:34:46.159
<v Speaker 2>So that was one of those unique ones as well.

714
00:34:46.719 --> 00:34:49.920
<v Speaker 2>Any specifics you want to hit on any of those guys.

715
00:34:49.599 --> 00:34:54.400
<v Speaker 1>I think I think the Drake May thing was potentially

716
00:34:54.440 --> 00:34:57.280
<v Speaker 1>getting you know, signing Romeo Dobbs and trading for aj

717
00:34:57.400 --> 00:35:00.039
<v Speaker 1>Brown later. I think he spiked a little bit in

718
00:35:00.079 --> 00:35:03.880
<v Speaker 1>ECR after the trade, So I think maybe that's what

719
00:35:03.920 --> 00:35:05.920
<v Speaker 1>it is with Drake May, because like you said, there

720
00:35:05.920 --> 00:35:09.880
<v Speaker 1>aren't a lot of guys that are around different everywhere.

721
00:35:09.920 --> 00:35:13.559
<v Speaker 1>It's only the two qbs, So I think maybe that's

722
00:35:13.599 --> 00:35:15.320
<v Speaker 1>it a little bit. But yeah, you want to have

723
00:35:15.360 --> 00:35:17.960
<v Speaker 1>Drake May as QB two, I have no qualms with that.

724
00:35:18.159 --> 00:35:20.320
<v Speaker 1>It's still lamar from me, but I get it. You know,

725
00:35:20.760 --> 00:35:23.360
<v Speaker 1>Drake May was awesome, let us team the Super Bowl

726
00:35:23.440 --> 00:35:27.000
<v Speaker 1>last year and added weapons. So yeah, lots of hype

727
00:35:27.039 --> 00:35:28.440
<v Speaker 1>on Drake May, deservedly so.

728
00:35:29.400 --> 00:35:31.840
<v Speaker 2>All right, the next group, I'm gonna kind of plow

729
00:35:31.920 --> 00:35:33.960
<v Speaker 2>through some of the I'll give Actually, I'll do like

730
00:35:34.239 --> 00:35:35.840
<v Speaker 2>two more buckets tiers.

731
00:35:35.880 --> 00:35:36.079
<v Speaker 1>Here.

732
00:35:36.400 --> 00:35:39.360
<v Speaker 2>You have Rmandra Stevenson, who is available. That's gonna be one.

733
00:35:39.400 --> 00:35:43.360
<v Speaker 2>You're gonna get values on ESPN being the best kind

734
00:35:43.360 --> 00:35:44.960
<v Speaker 2>of across where the others are actually kind of low.

735
00:35:45.079 --> 00:35:48.119
<v Speaker 2>Maybe this wasn't even I mean it is all there lower, Yeah,

736
00:35:48.239 --> 00:35:51.880
<v Speaker 2>but ESPN is the biggest one. Trevor Lawrence another quarterback sleeper,

737
00:35:51.920 --> 00:35:55.039
<v Speaker 2>this time being the best value. We also saw that

738
00:35:55.079 --> 00:35:56.679
<v Speaker 2>with Drake may so there might be a little bit

739
00:35:56.679 --> 00:36:00.559
<v Speaker 2>of a trend on some higher quarterbacks. For sleeper. Trevor

740
00:36:00.639 --> 00:36:03.320
<v Speaker 2>Lawrence is a value, Dak Prescott is a value, Chris

741
00:36:03.440 --> 00:36:06.519
<v Speaker 2>Godwin is cheaper on every site. Goah, I kind of

742
00:36:06.559 --> 00:36:09.280
<v Speaker 2>dig that one. And then there's another bucket of quarterbacks

743
00:36:09.400 --> 00:36:12.159
<v Speaker 2>Jared Goff, Baker Mayfield, and Tyler Shuck. So we're now

744
00:36:12.199 --> 00:36:15.480
<v Speaker 2>actually seeing maybe this is an incorrect thing with how

745
00:36:15.559 --> 00:36:19.800
<v Speaker 2>people approach their rankings on ECR. I really attempt with

746
00:36:20.480 --> 00:36:24.320
<v Speaker 2>overall east. Now I will point this out though as

747
00:36:24.360 --> 00:36:29.079
<v Speaker 2>a slight caveat. I don't know if everybody puts hyper

748
00:36:29.119 --> 00:36:33.559
<v Speaker 2>focused attention on the overall on ECR.

749
00:36:33.880 --> 00:36:36.239
<v Speaker 1>But this is what everybody sees in the room.

750
00:36:36.639 --> 00:36:40.840
<v Speaker 2>No, no, I'm saying ECR not sleeper y'ah. Oh yeah,

751
00:36:40.960 --> 00:36:42.679
<v Speaker 2>a lot of people. So I just want to give

752
00:36:42.679 --> 00:36:44.559
<v Speaker 2>a caveat before we go nuts with all of this.

753
00:36:44.760 --> 00:36:47.480
<v Speaker 2>Is that and a quarterback is specific. I think a

754
00:36:47.480 --> 00:36:49.320
<v Speaker 2>lot of people go in and how how the ranking

755
00:36:49.360 --> 00:36:51.639
<v Speaker 2>process works. As you go in and you there's an

756
00:36:51.639 --> 00:36:53.880
<v Speaker 2>overall which you start with. No one does and they

757
00:36:53.920 --> 00:36:56.159
<v Speaker 2>go to positional. But I don't know if people go

758
00:36:56.199 --> 00:36:58.320
<v Speaker 2>in after the fact, after they do their positional and

759
00:36:58.360 --> 00:37:01.519
<v Speaker 2>pay attention to overall. So that reason that's important. That

760
00:37:01.679 --> 00:37:05.840
<v Speaker 2>might be why quarterbacks are showing up as ECR deals

761
00:37:05.960 --> 00:37:08.480
<v Speaker 2>versus the websites, because I don't know if people are

762
00:37:08.480 --> 00:37:11.440
<v Speaker 2>paying that close attention and it's gonna default. All of

763
00:37:11.440 --> 00:37:14.000
<v Speaker 2>that is just a slight little caveat regardless to the point.

764
00:37:14.119 --> 00:37:16.159
<v Speaker 2>But if you go and you do look at ECR

765
00:37:16.239 --> 00:37:18.159
<v Speaker 2>on the overall, you're gonna see some big deals on

766
00:37:18.239 --> 00:37:20.760
<v Speaker 2>all of those quarterbacks. And then you know, again throwing

767
00:37:20.760 --> 00:37:24.559
<v Speaker 2>in Remandre and Chris Godwin into that bucket. So you said,

768
00:37:24.599 --> 00:37:26.119
<v Speaker 2>Chris Godwin, you really like that one.

769
00:37:26.280 --> 00:37:28.480
<v Speaker 1>I love the Chris Godwin one. He's not much of

770
00:37:28.519 --> 00:37:30.480
<v Speaker 1>a deal on sleeper in Yahoo, but if you're playing

771
00:37:30.519 --> 00:37:34.039
<v Speaker 1>in ESPN, he's one hundred and twenty six. He's forty

772
00:37:34.079 --> 00:37:37.760
<v Speaker 1>spots below where his ECR is at eighty six. He

773
00:37:37.840 --> 00:37:41.000
<v Speaker 1>might be the number one wide receiver for the Bucks. Personally,

774
00:37:41.039 --> 00:37:43.440
<v Speaker 1>I think it's like Buka, but it would not be

775
00:37:43.519 --> 00:37:46.800
<v Speaker 1>shocking to see Chris Godwin succeed again. He's got a

776
00:37:46.840 --> 00:37:51.159
<v Speaker 1>lot of rapport and history with Baker Mayfield, and Baker

777
00:37:51.199 --> 00:37:53.920
<v Speaker 1>Mayfield said he's gonna have a huge year today after

778
00:37:54.000 --> 00:37:57.199
<v Speaker 1>not getting the extension he wanted, he's pretty upset about it,

779
00:37:57.239 --> 00:37:59.639
<v Speaker 1>but he said, I don't care anymore. It's all football time.

780
00:37:59.760 --> 00:38:02.239
<v Speaker 1>So uh yeah, I think Chris Godwin is in for

781
00:38:02.239 --> 00:38:04.400
<v Speaker 1>a big years. But with him, of course is staying help.

782
00:38:04.719 --> 00:38:07.199
<v Speaker 2>So the last group, there's there's a bunch of others,

783
00:38:07.199 --> 00:38:10.000
<v Speaker 2>some not gonna matter more than others, but Tyrone, Tracy,

784
00:38:10.159 --> 00:38:13.920
<v Speaker 2>Isaiah Pacheco, Alvin Kamara, Dylan Samson. Those are running backs

785
00:38:13.960 --> 00:38:19.079
<v Speaker 2>that are much much lower versus what ECR has. There's

786
00:38:19.079 --> 00:38:22.559
<v Speaker 2>another group of quarterbacks again, Tick mccaveat Stroud, Darnold Ward

787
00:38:22.599 --> 00:38:25.760
<v Speaker 2>and young Dalton Schultz is a tight end that doesn't

788
00:38:25.800 --> 00:38:28.000
<v Speaker 2>even get ranked in some spots. And then you got

789
00:38:28.039 --> 00:38:30.880
<v Speaker 2>some wide receiver wide receiver running back combos Trey Harris,

790
00:38:30.920 --> 00:38:35.559
<v Speaker 2>Ryan florinoy Keayshaan Boody, Sean Tucker, Kamani Videll, Emanuel Wilson.

791
00:38:36.119 --> 00:38:39.679
<v Speaker 2>Those as standouts as bigger differences. So let's go down

792
00:38:39.719 --> 00:38:42.360
<v Speaker 2>to a g you have a comment on someone Nope,

793
00:38:42.639 --> 00:38:45.000
<v Speaker 2>So these are gonna be guys that are more expensive

794
00:38:45.559 --> 00:38:49.920
<v Speaker 2>versus these groupings here with ECR, Christian McCaffrey and Taylor

795
00:38:49.920 --> 00:38:52.679
<v Speaker 2>as we already mentioned, Amaron Hampton. There's a bunch of

796
00:38:52.719 --> 00:38:57.239
<v Speaker 2>running backs, a huge plumper running backs, Jeremiah Love, Brace Hall,

797
00:38:57.440 --> 00:39:01.800
<v Speaker 2>Breece Hall is a decent amount more expensive ESPN specifically

798
00:39:01.800 --> 00:39:04.639
<v Speaker 2>being one where it's a full round Javonte Williams, Travis

799
00:39:04.719 --> 00:39:07.760
<v Speaker 2>Et and Cam Scataboo and Quinchawn Jutkins. That is a

800
00:39:07.880 --> 00:39:13.039
<v Speaker 2>huge grouping when you look at ECR versus these sites.

801
00:39:13.400 --> 00:39:16.800
<v Speaker 2>The all again, I do not to bury this and

802
00:39:17.119 --> 00:39:19.199
<v Speaker 2>keep going, but I do want to stress this overall

803
00:39:19.239 --> 00:39:21.320
<v Speaker 2>thing that happens because this is how it's getting compared.

804
00:39:22.960 --> 00:39:26.159
<v Speaker 2>This may feel like less when you start to look

805
00:39:26.199 --> 00:39:28.400
<v Speaker 2>at the positional ranks, and you start to pay attention

806
00:39:28.480 --> 00:39:30.639
<v Speaker 2>to the positional stuff and you click in like I'm

807
00:39:30.679 --> 00:39:34.280
<v Speaker 2>not this isn't necessarily saying quinchn Jutkins is lower on

808
00:39:34.320 --> 00:39:37.039
<v Speaker 2>a certain website versus. But I think it's blatantly obvious

809
00:39:37.079 --> 00:39:40.079
<v Speaker 2>when Judkins is a full round lower. That's where this

810
00:39:40.199 --> 00:39:42.119
<v Speaker 2>is going to become a lot more prevalent when you're

811
00:39:42.119 --> 00:39:43.239
<v Speaker 2>comparing against ECR.

812
00:39:43.840 --> 00:39:47.000
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's interesting it's all running backs here, but that's

813
00:39:47.079 --> 00:39:49.840
<v Speaker 1>just and I think a little bit of that, uh,

814
00:39:50.280 --> 00:39:52.400
<v Speaker 1>this this caveat as well Welsh, however you want to

815
00:39:52.440 --> 00:39:55.320
<v Speaker 1>say it. I think a little bit of this is

816
00:39:55.360 --> 00:40:01.679
<v Speaker 1>that there's so many two running back, two wide receiver

817
00:40:01.840 --> 00:40:06.239
<v Speaker 1>leagues in ESPN and Yahoo, and I think a lot

818
00:40:06.320 --> 00:40:10.800
<v Speaker 1>of people ranking for ECR are ranking for three wideouts, right,

819
00:40:11.119 --> 00:40:14.679
<v Speaker 1>So it's going to be that, you know, you bump

820
00:40:14.760 --> 00:40:17.639
<v Speaker 1>the running backs down a little bit in your rankings

821
00:40:17.679 --> 00:40:19.880
<v Speaker 1>because you want to get to those three wide receivers,

822
00:40:20.320 --> 00:40:23.719
<v Speaker 1>and on the websites, your basic standard setup is two

823
00:40:23.760 --> 00:40:26.320
<v Speaker 1>wide receivers instead of three. So I think that's a

824
00:40:26.599 --> 00:40:29.760
<v Speaker 1>big piece of why the running backs are more expensive.

825
00:40:29.760 --> 00:40:32.639
<v Speaker 1>But it doesn't really matter what the reasoning for it is.

826
00:40:33.199 --> 00:40:36.000
<v Speaker 1>In the room. You need to know that our bees

827
00:40:36.039 --> 00:40:38.559
<v Speaker 1>are going to be more expensive on draft day because

828
00:40:38.639 --> 00:40:41.199
<v Speaker 1>this is the way it's set up, and these websites

829
00:40:41.239 --> 00:40:44.519
<v Speaker 1>don't adjust enough to the differences in your league, in

830
00:40:44.559 --> 00:40:48.360
<v Speaker 1>your roster positions to make it matter. So just know

831
00:40:48.440 --> 00:40:51.400
<v Speaker 1>that running backs will be more expensive if you're drafting

832
00:40:51.400 --> 00:40:52.960
<v Speaker 1>on one of these sites. For sure.

833
00:40:54.039 --> 00:40:59.000
<v Speaker 2>Two more running Backspacial Tutin and Cuba Hubbard specifically show

834
00:40:59.079 --> 00:41:02.159
<v Speaker 2>up as guys that are higher in the overall draft

835
00:41:02.239 --> 00:41:03.840
<v Speaker 2>rooms than what ECR is presenting.

836
00:41:04.280 --> 00:41:06.159
<v Speaker 1>SUBA shouldn't be on this list. That is when I

837
00:41:06.199 --> 00:41:06.679
<v Speaker 1>screwed up.

838
00:41:06.800 --> 00:41:09.960
<v Speaker 2>So oh yeah, you're right. That actually is a value

839
00:41:10.079 --> 00:41:12.360
<v Speaker 2>on ESPN, so he doesn't belong on that. But the

840
00:41:12.440 --> 00:41:15.360
<v Speaker 2>other two sites, he's more expensive. Wide receivers that show

841
00:41:15.440 --> 00:41:18.800
<v Speaker 2>up Dj Moore. Dj Moore is in the fifties where

842
00:41:18.800 --> 00:41:23.079
<v Speaker 2>ECR he's in the sixties. Roman duneesay same situation, more

843
00:41:23.079 --> 00:41:25.719
<v Speaker 2>expensive on the AAHO and ESPN sleepers a little bit closer.

844
00:41:26.000 --> 00:41:29.599
<v Speaker 2>A couple of rookies, actually three rookies, Carnell Tait, Jordan Tyson,

845
00:41:29.639 --> 00:41:34.199
<v Speaker 2>and MacKaye Lemon. MacKaye Lemon being one of the across

846
00:41:34.239 --> 00:41:38.800
<v Speaker 2>the board more than like two around or two higher

847
00:41:39.079 --> 00:41:41.480
<v Speaker 2>on all the sites versus what ECR has him ranked.

848
00:41:42.159 --> 00:41:45.440
<v Speaker 2>And then you know, shout out Ricky Piersol, Ricky Piersol's disasters.

849
00:41:45.440 --> 00:41:49.679
<v Speaker 2>So we don't focus there, but more donsay Tate, Tyson

850
00:41:49.760 --> 00:41:53.519
<v Speaker 2>and Lemon way more expensive on sites versus ECR. I

851
00:41:53.519 --> 00:41:55.840
<v Speaker 2>think there's definitely a conversation around more, but I'm kind

852
00:41:55.840 --> 00:41:59.440
<v Speaker 2>of obsessed about all the rookies aggressively more than how

853
00:41:59.440 --> 00:42:00.000
<v Speaker 2>people are ranked.

854
00:42:00.679 --> 00:42:04.559
<v Speaker 1>I think this is an uncomfortableness around the wide receivers

855
00:42:04.599 --> 00:42:07.079
<v Speaker 1>that are also in that range with the rookies, and

856
00:42:07.119 --> 00:42:09.840
<v Speaker 1>I think when you look at it, you know, because

857
00:42:09.880 --> 00:42:14.440
<v Speaker 1>looking Tait is thirty in uh ECR among wide outs,

858
00:42:14.639 --> 00:42:18.679
<v Speaker 1>that wide outs that are around him specifically, and DJ Moore,

859
00:42:19.280 --> 00:42:21.559
<v Speaker 1>Dj Moore, A Duneesa, and Tate are all in a

860
00:42:21.639 --> 00:42:24.480
<v Speaker 1>row in ECR. They're separated by a tier. Tier five

861
00:42:24.559 --> 00:42:28.039
<v Speaker 1>starts at Taate number thirty. But the guys below these dudes,

862
00:42:28.079 --> 00:42:30.639
<v Speaker 1>I think make a lot of people queasy, which is

863
00:42:30.679 --> 00:42:33.679
<v Speaker 1>why the rookies are getting pushed up in these rankings.

864
00:42:33.679 --> 00:42:36.599
<v Speaker 1>So it's Marvin Harrison, it's Alec Pierce who came in

865
00:42:36.719 --> 00:42:39.239
<v Speaker 1>banged up, it's DK Metcalf who had a bad year

866
00:42:39.320 --> 00:42:42.360
<v Speaker 1>last year. It's BTJ Parker Washington, which one of those

867
00:42:42.360 --> 00:42:44.800
<v Speaker 1>guys is going to be ston dealing with Wattle now.

868
00:42:45.039 --> 00:42:48.480
<v Speaker 1>Chris Godwin is old and has had injuries. Michael Wilson,

869
00:42:48.960 --> 00:42:52.599
<v Speaker 1>I think that is the reason why the rookies are

870
00:42:52.800 --> 00:42:56.239
<v Speaker 1>bumped up. We always do this with rookies every single year,

871
00:42:56.519 --> 00:42:59.440
<v Speaker 1>but I think it's this This group of top end

872
00:42:59.519 --> 00:43:02.440
<v Speaker 1>rookies is because of this glut of wide receivers that

873
00:43:03.039 --> 00:43:06.480
<v Speaker 1>I feel like, no matter if you pull five people

874
00:43:06.519 --> 00:43:09.559
<v Speaker 1>that rank, somebody has a problem with each of these

875
00:43:09.599 --> 00:43:12.679
<v Speaker 1>players that we mentioned before. I think that is why

876
00:43:12.880 --> 00:43:14.679
<v Speaker 1>these rookies are getting boosted up, and they're going to

877
00:43:14.679 --> 00:43:15.599
<v Speaker 1>be expensive this year.

878
00:43:16.639 --> 00:43:18.440
<v Speaker 2>And then the last little group, you've got a couple

879
00:43:18.480 --> 00:43:21.760
<v Speaker 2>tight ends, Mark Andrews and Isaiah Likely they're actually more expensive.

880
00:43:22.320 --> 00:43:23.920
<v Speaker 2>Likely he is always an interesting one. Yeah, you gotta

881
00:43:23.960 --> 00:43:27.119
<v Speaker 2>hate that one. And then you've got Romeo Dobbs, Matthew Golden,

882
00:43:27.239 --> 00:43:30.920
<v Speaker 2>Casey concept shown and Ray Davis. Whose are all those

883
00:43:30.920 --> 00:43:33.480
<v Speaker 2>players that are more expensive on sites than versus ECR.

884
00:43:34.039 --> 00:43:38.239
<v Speaker 1>What is Matthew Golden doing at seventy eight in ESPN?

885
00:43:38.440 --> 00:43:41.079
<v Speaker 1>I don't get it at all, he's one thirty five

886
00:43:41.119 --> 00:43:44.840
<v Speaker 1>in ECR one thirty four on Sleeper one eighteen on Yahoo.

887
00:43:44.840 --> 00:43:48.199
<v Speaker 1>I think is a fairly expensive. Well what are we

888
00:43:48.400 --> 00:43:50.039
<v Speaker 1>doing with him? It's seventy It.

889
00:43:50.000 --> 00:43:54.360
<v Speaker 2>Ain't gotta be built around like you know, the projection

890
00:43:54.559 --> 00:43:58.119
<v Speaker 2>system loving him as you take Romeo, Dobbs and Wis out.

891
00:43:58.480 --> 00:44:00.000
<v Speaker 2>I think a lot of people are get hyper focused

892
00:44:00.079 --> 00:44:01.360
<v Speaker 2>on that, like opportunity.

893
00:44:01.719 --> 00:44:04.519
<v Speaker 1>Maybe they're baking in because Watson's miss Games every year,

894
00:44:04.599 --> 00:44:06.800
<v Speaker 1>maybe they're baking that into. Same thing with Reid Read.

895
00:44:06.880 --> 00:44:10.400
<v Speaker 1>I feel like it's miss Games most seasoned, so maybe

896
00:44:10.400 --> 00:44:12.679
<v Speaker 1>that I mean, we can we can write it. I

897
00:44:12.679 --> 00:44:15.000
<v Speaker 1>don't know if it's true, though. It's just very strange.

898
00:44:15.000 --> 00:44:17.079
<v Speaker 1>It's like Tucker Craft being all the way down at

899
00:44:17.079 --> 00:44:19.719
<v Speaker 1>one twenty. What is he doing down there? They should

900
00:44:19.760 --> 00:44:23.320
<v Speaker 1>flip those guys. I think Tucker Craft should go where

901
00:44:23.320 --> 00:44:25.159
<v Speaker 1>Golden is. Golden should go where Tucker Craft is, and

902
00:44:25.199 --> 00:44:27.320
<v Speaker 1>then we're all ship shape. But it's just not the

903
00:44:27.360 --> 00:44:28.760
<v Speaker 1>way it is in reality.

904
00:44:28.960 --> 00:44:31.039
<v Speaker 2>So all right, so let's take a break, and then

905
00:44:31.159 --> 00:44:32.679
<v Speaker 2>when we come back, we're now going to get hyper

906
00:44:32.679 --> 00:44:35.159
<v Speaker 2>focused on the websites. We're going to be looking at

907
00:44:35.199 --> 00:44:38.239
<v Speaker 2>places where these guys are some of the guys we've

908
00:44:38.239 --> 00:44:40.000
<v Speaker 2>already talked about, so there might some of them might

909
00:44:40.000 --> 00:44:43.239
<v Speaker 2>be quicker, specifically, as I'm looking at sleeper, because sleeper

910
00:44:43.400 --> 00:44:46.039
<v Speaker 2>is I think we missed a boat here, Bogs when

911
00:44:46.079 --> 00:44:49.039
<v Speaker 2>I say, hey, is there a trend, it's sleeper with quarterbacks.

912
00:44:49.039 --> 00:44:51.639
<v Speaker 2>Clearly is that? So let's take a break and then

913
00:44:51.920 --> 00:44:59.039
<v Speaker 2>let's hit the sleeper Yahoo and then ESPN welcome in

914
00:44:59.119 --> 00:45:08.760
<v Speaker 2>this league, Carlo. All right, let's jump over to sleeper.

915
00:45:09.440 --> 00:45:11.480
<v Speaker 2>Some of these might be a little bit quicker, which

916
00:45:11.519 --> 00:45:13.239
<v Speaker 2>isn't the worst thing in the world, because we had

917
00:45:13.639 --> 00:45:16.239
<v Speaker 2>more of an extensive conversation when we did the overall

918
00:45:16.320 --> 00:45:19.199
<v Speaker 2>versus ECR. Some of these trends are going to continue.

919
00:45:19.920 --> 00:45:23.159
<v Speaker 2>But the goofy thing we can say now that I'm

920
00:45:23.159 --> 00:45:27.679
<v Speaker 2>looking at this is sleeper definitely definitely has a positive trend.

921
00:45:27.800 --> 00:45:30.880
<v Speaker 2>If you are paying attention to ECR on quarterbacks. Here

922
00:45:30.920 --> 00:45:34.639
<v Speaker 2>are the following quarterbacks that this qualifies as the more

923
00:45:34.679 --> 00:45:37.880
<v Speaker 2>than a full round over a full round higher than

924
00:45:37.880 --> 00:45:42.039
<v Speaker 2>what ECR is ranking them. Drake May, Joe Burrow, Justin

925
00:45:42.119 --> 00:45:45.719
<v Speaker 2>Herbert Caleb Williams, Trevor Lawrence, Dak Prescott, Brock Purty, Bownix

926
00:45:45.800 --> 00:45:48.760
<v Speaker 2>and Kyler Murray. That is versus if you are looking

927
00:45:48.800 --> 00:45:52.320
<v Speaker 2>at the overall. Now, I think what can happen though,

928
00:45:52.599 --> 00:45:54.400
<v Speaker 2>as most people do, because then we're going to get

929
00:45:54.400 --> 00:45:55.920
<v Speaker 2>into this whole discussion which we don't need to do

930
00:45:55.920 --> 00:45:59.440
<v Speaker 2>about overall ranks and how overall ranks are weird. But

931
00:45:59.519 --> 00:46:01.599
<v Speaker 2>when you start to get into positional stuff, this isn't

932
00:46:01.719 --> 00:46:06.400
<v Speaker 2>saying that, you know, Drake May is a huge deal

933
00:46:06.440 --> 00:46:10.559
<v Speaker 2>on sleeper from a quarterback perspective. It's just saying when

934
00:46:10.599 --> 00:46:12.559
<v Speaker 2>you start to look positionally.

935
00:46:12.400 --> 00:46:13.679
<v Speaker 1>Quarterbacks are cheaper.

936
00:46:14.119 --> 00:46:17.760
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. The unique thing is is on the board if

937
00:46:17.760 --> 00:46:19.800
<v Speaker 2>you are looking at if you look and care about

938
00:46:19.800 --> 00:46:21.679
<v Speaker 2>what ecer overall is, and then you look at a

939
00:46:21.719 --> 00:46:23.880
<v Speaker 2>draft room, you're gonna be like, holy crap, Drake May

940
00:46:23.960 --> 00:46:27.039
<v Speaker 2>is way lower than what the overall is telling us.

941
00:46:27.199 --> 00:46:29.519
<v Speaker 2>But there's a big quarterback trend in there. I don't

942
00:46:29.519 --> 00:46:31.639
<v Speaker 2>know if there's anything to talk about because it is

943
00:46:31.639 --> 00:46:33.880
<v Speaker 2>actually almost at the point Bogs where it's almost every quarterback.

944
00:46:33.920 --> 00:46:37.840
<v Speaker 2>I mean, yeah, I had quarterbacks in the top eighteen here.

945
00:46:38.199 --> 00:46:40.599
<v Speaker 1>The overarching thing is that you're going to get the

946
00:46:40.639 --> 00:46:46.199
<v Speaker 1>best deals on qbs on sleeper right like that. That

947
00:46:46.360 --> 00:46:48.519
<v Speaker 1>is where your qbs are. You want to run your

948
00:46:48.519 --> 00:46:49.960
<v Speaker 1>super Flex league on sleeper.

949
00:46:50.039 --> 00:46:52.360
<v Speaker 2>But isn't that funny though, because don't you feel like

950
00:46:52.679 --> 00:46:55.440
<v Speaker 2>I feel like, if you know super flex, you're playing

951
00:46:55.480 --> 00:46:56.159
<v Speaker 2>on sleeper.

952
00:46:56.480 --> 00:47:01.480
<v Speaker 1>Okay, but fair point. But I also know that so

953
00:47:01.679 --> 00:47:05.239
<v Speaker 1>many people are on sleeper because it runs year round, right,

954
00:47:05.599 --> 00:47:09.519
<v Speaker 1>So you know it's I think the trend and I

955
00:47:09.559 --> 00:47:14.400
<v Speaker 1>think people pay more attention to podcast and all the

956
00:47:14.400 --> 00:47:16.760
<v Speaker 1>information that they have, So if you're not in a

957
00:47:16.800 --> 00:47:19.880
<v Speaker 1>super Flex league, you bury those qbs. I was on

958
00:47:19.920 --> 00:47:22.480
<v Speaker 1>a show with ericson today where he was talking about

959
00:47:23.000 --> 00:47:25.960
<v Speaker 1>him and Pat splitting a team at the Expo and

960
00:47:26.000 --> 00:47:27.920
<v Speaker 1>it was a super Flex league. Yeah, it was like

961
00:47:28.159 --> 00:47:31.159
<v Speaker 1>every one of the experts was playing chicken. I think

962
00:47:31.199 --> 00:47:33.519
<v Speaker 1>they didn't have a quarterback go in the first round.

963
00:47:33.719 --> 00:47:36.199
<v Speaker 1>It was insane. They're all playing chicken with each other

964
00:47:36.239 --> 00:47:37.239
<v Speaker 1>in Superflex, right.

965
00:47:37.360 --> 00:47:39.800
<v Speaker 2>Definitely, we kind of had that in one of the

966
00:47:39.840 --> 00:47:41.639
<v Speaker 2>mocks we did with it. You see a couple of

967
00:47:41.679 --> 00:47:43.840
<v Speaker 2>people that played that chicken game of like, nope, I'm

968
00:47:43.840 --> 00:47:46.000
<v Speaker 2>going to take the positional players we've Definitely, I remember

969
00:47:46.039 --> 00:47:47.800
<v Speaker 2>a flex year. I don't know if it was me

970
00:47:48.119 --> 00:47:50.000
<v Speaker 2>or you and I or no dude, you know what

971
00:47:50.079 --> 00:47:50.400
<v Speaker 2>it was.

972
00:47:50.639 --> 00:47:52.679
<v Speaker 1>It was my team I think that you were thinking of.

973
00:47:52.800 --> 00:47:54.719
<v Speaker 1>It was the one where I took Joe Burrow. Everybody

974
00:47:54.719 --> 00:47:57.519
<v Speaker 1>made fun of me for not taking McCaffrey, McCaffrey gets hurt,

975
00:47:57.719 --> 00:48:00.800
<v Speaker 1>Joe Burrow goes crazy, and I took Jane Daniels in

976
00:48:00.840 --> 00:48:01.519
<v Speaker 1>his rookie year.

977
00:48:01.920 --> 00:48:04.440
<v Speaker 2>So it's not that one, but it's another instance where

978
00:48:04.480 --> 00:48:06.320
<v Speaker 2>it worked for you. I remember you and I talked

979
00:48:06.360 --> 00:48:08.960
<v Speaker 2>about that where people got on you, but it also

980
00:48:09.079 --> 00:48:11.440
<v Speaker 2>happened to you and I when the first year of

981
00:48:11.480 --> 00:48:14.199
<v Speaker 2>Flex League we shared a Flex League team or no,

982
00:48:14.440 --> 00:48:16.519
<v Speaker 2>I'm still screwing it up. I think this was the

983
00:48:17.079 --> 00:48:20.119
<v Speaker 2>pentathlon that we did the very first year. People played

984
00:48:20.159 --> 00:48:23.599
<v Speaker 2>chicken on quarterbacks and we balled out. We went for

985
00:48:23.800 --> 00:48:26.199
<v Speaker 2>round one and two on quarterbacks and people were letting

986
00:48:26.199 --> 00:48:29.400
<v Speaker 2>them slide, and we dominated through the year. We absolutely domin.

987
00:48:29.480 --> 00:48:31.599
<v Speaker 2>We've actually dominated like two straight years in that super

988
00:48:31.599 --> 00:48:34.360
<v Speaker 2>Flex League because we go heavy early quarterbacks. But yeah,

989
00:48:34.360 --> 00:48:36.920
<v Speaker 2>I do remember you having that happen as well. So

990
00:48:37.039 --> 00:48:39.480
<v Speaker 2>fair point. You know, a lot more leagues are gonna

991
00:48:39.480 --> 00:48:41.599
<v Speaker 2>play there, and there's a lot more chicken that happens

992
00:48:41.639 --> 00:48:43.800
<v Speaker 2>where people are like I don't want to. You know,

993
00:48:43.800 --> 00:48:45.920
<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna get these positional players and I can get value,

994
00:48:46.000 --> 00:48:47.440
<v Speaker 2>kind of like what happened in the mock where Colin

995
00:48:47.599 --> 00:48:49.559
<v Speaker 2>was like, I'm gonna wait till the very end, and

996
00:48:49.599 --> 00:48:52.119
<v Speaker 2>he yeah, actually had a decent quarterback Perry. That does

997
00:48:52.199 --> 00:48:54.199
<v Speaker 2>happen a lot when you get a lot more like

998
00:48:54.280 --> 00:48:57.599
<v Speaker 2>high stakes and like industry wide. So maybe that's the case.

999
00:48:58.000 --> 00:49:02.039
<v Speaker 1>I don't know that it's smart people only play on sleeper,

1000
00:49:02.400 --> 00:49:05.639
<v Speaker 1>but I would say there's more Rubes on Yahoo and

1001
00:49:05.840 --> 00:49:08.000
<v Speaker 1>ESPN as well, So I think the people that are

1002
00:49:08.039 --> 00:49:10.880
<v Speaker 1>in the know play in sleeper, and people in the

1003
00:49:10.920 --> 00:49:14.480
<v Speaker 1>know wait on quarterback in a one QB league, and

1004
00:49:14.760 --> 00:49:17.400
<v Speaker 1>they even try to do it in super Flex this season,

1005
00:49:17.559 --> 00:49:20.599
<v Speaker 1>So I think that is probably the trend. But I

1006
00:49:20.599 --> 00:49:23.639
<v Speaker 1>think in most cases, right when you get beyond like

1007
00:49:23.679 --> 00:49:25.920
<v Speaker 1>the guys that are around different and all that, if

1008
00:49:25.920 --> 00:49:29.280
<v Speaker 1>you just look at the overarching these guys are deals.

1009
00:49:29.320 --> 00:49:31.760
<v Speaker 1>These guys are a little more expensive, it's by a

1010
00:49:31.800 --> 00:49:37.320
<v Speaker 1>spot or two. It is overwhelmingly cheaper to get a

1011
00:49:37.360 --> 00:49:41.960
<v Speaker 1>wide receiver on sleeper. Right looking through just the regular

1012
00:49:42.000 --> 00:49:44.159
<v Speaker 1>deals that are just a little bit off, it's almost

1013
00:49:44.199 --> 00:49:48.039
<v Speaker 1>exclusively wide receivers for the first three rounds. Brock Bowers

1014
00:49:48.079 --> 00:49:51.559
<v Speaker 1>is in there, Lamar Jackson is in there, Colston Loveland

1015
00:49:51.559 --> 00:49:54.000
<v Speaker 1>shows up. We don't get a running back until DeAndre

1016
00:49:54.119 --> 00:49:57.519
<v Speaker 1>Swift at sixty. That is cheaper. And if you go

1017
00:49:57.760 --> 00:49:59.920
<v Speaker 1>and you just scroll down to these more expensive guys,

1018
00:50:00.199 --> 00:50:03.280
<v Speaker 1>it's the reverse. Trey McBride is more expensive on sleeper

1019
00:50:03.320 --> 00:50:08.079
<v Speaker 1>for whatever reason. But the rest from seven to thirty nine,

1020
00:50:08.280 --> 00:50:11.679
<v Speaker 1>which is about fifteen players twelve players somewhere in that

1021
00:50:11.760 --> 00:50:17.199
<v Speaker 1>range on this sheet, all rbs so urb's are just

1022
00:50:17.239 --> 00:50:19.840
<v Speaker 1>a little more expensive. Wide receiver is a little cheaper

1023
00:50:20.159 --> 00:50:22.079
<v Speaker 1>on sleeper. That is a trend that is going to

1024
00:50:22.119 --> 00:50:25.320
<v Speaker 1>go through all the websites, but is very very apparent

1025
00:50:25.559 --> 00:50:28.719
<v Speaker 1>when you look at how Sleeper ranks their players.

1026
00:50:29.119 --> 00:50:32.840
<v Speaker 2>The only really player of note for sleeper that's a

1027
00:50:32.840 --> 00:50:34.960
<v Speaker 2>big deal with Say Flowers, as we've talked about before,

1028
00:50:35.000 --> 00:50:37.599
<v Speaker 2>that's the big one outside of quarterbacks. They out of

1029
00:50:37.639 --> 00:50:40.360
<v Speaker 2>the positional players, it's Zay Flowers is the only top

1030
00:50:40.400 --> 00:50:43.400
<v Speaker 2>one hundred player that you will get an exceptional deal

1031
00:50:43.440 --> 00:50:47.400
<v Speaker 2>with Sleeper versus everybody else. The other deals of non quarterbacks.

1032
00:50:47.440 --> 00:50:50.400
<v Speaker 2>Alvin Kamara, it's kind of an interesting one where he

1033
00:50:50.599 --> 00:50:53.079
<v Speaker 2>is like a lot of rankers have made that adjustment.

1034
00:50:53.159 --> 00:50:56.079
<v Speaker 2>It really hasn't happened on sleeper. It's like twenty, it's

1035
00:50:56.119 --> 00:50:59.199
<v Speaker 2>about two rounds. Isaiah Pacheco, It's a totally odd one

1036
00:50:59.639 --> 00:51:03.079
<v Speaker 2>that he's like super late comparative to like where ECR

1037
00:51:03.119 --> 00:51:05.320
<v Speaker 2>is putting him. And then Ryan Flornoy is actually not

1038
00:51:05.360 --> 00:51:09.159
<v Speaker 2>even know it's not what not not in the top two. Yeah, yeah,

1039
00:51:09.199 --> 00:51:11.400
<v Speaker 2>and that's a popular trend one. I guess you kind

1040
00:51:11.400 --> 00:51:13.639
<v Speaker 2>of mentioned it. But I'm gonna go through more the

1041
00:51:13.639 --> 00:51:16.599
<v Speaker 2>physical names here, the guys that are more expensive on

1042
00:51:16.679 --> 00:51:19.519
<v Speaker 2>sleeper versus kind of the overall the running backs Bucky

1043
00:51:19.519 --> 00:51:22.039
<v Speaker 2>Irving and Traveon Henderson sleeper. That is going to be

1044
00:51:22.039 --> 00:51:24.800
<v Speaker 2>more of an expensive cost. That's interesting too because they're

1045
00:51:24.800 --> 00:51:29.119
<v Speaker 2>both very polarizing. You know, I think maybe Bucky's moving

1046
00:51:29.119 --> 00:51:33.400
<v Speaker 2>away from the polarizing conversation because of the health. Travon Henderson,

1047
00:51:34.000 --> 00:51:37.320
<v Speaker 2>I mean, you're either just Travion's gonna ball out this year.

1048
00:51:37.320 --> 00:51:38.840
<v Speaker 2>I don't care which, well, I don't care what facts

1049
00:51:38.880 --> 00:51:41.679
<v Speaker 2>you tell me, or you're that is great about Trevion,

1050
00:51:41.760 --> 00:51:43.840
<v Speaker 2>But Remandre is still like the top guy.

1051
00:51:43.679 --> 00:51:46.800
<v Speaker 1>There, sound like leading the witness a little bit there.

1052
00:51:46.800 --> 00:51:49.039
<v Speaker 1>Where would you say you are in? That is? Are

1053
00:51:49.039 --> 00:51:50.760
<v Speaker 1>you on the Travion? Are you on the Remandre?

1054
00:51:51.599 --> 00:51:54.239
<v Speaker 2>I'm on the Remandre A little bit in that. That'll

1055
00:51:54.320 --> 00:51:57.840
<v Speaker 2>pick the deal. Here's what I don't argue. Travion Henderson

1056
00:51:58.079 --> 00:52:02.360
<v Speaker 2>is the most talented back. But what happened last year

1057
00:52:02.400 --> 00:52:04.639
<v Speaker 2>that's gonna not happen this year. Where they're gonna move

1058
00:52:04.639 --> 00:52:08.280
<v Speaker 2>away from Ronobbos? The what fumble? Okay, it didn't happen

1059
00:52:08.400 --> 00:52:09.880
<v Speaker 2>last year where it took them away? Why is that

1060
00:52:09.920 --> 00:52:11.559
<v Speaker 2>gonna be changed this year? Is just gonna all magic

1061
00:52:11.679 --> 00:52:14.159
<v Speaker 2>block fumble a bunch more times? No, it's no, but

1062
00:52:15.280 --> 00:52:17.440
<v Speaker 2>ms we had last year? Why Travion was gonna ball out?

1063
00:52:17.639 --> 00:52:18.119
<v Speaker 1>Okay?

1064
00:52:18.519 --> 00:52:19.800
<v Speaker 2>Argument's fumbles and pass blocking?

1065
00:52:19.920 --> 00:52:22.320
<v Speaker 1>Do you remember the second year of Jonathan Taylor? You

1066
00:52:22.320 --> 00:52:24.639
<v Speaker 1>remember the second year of Chase Brown? Remember the second

1067
00:52:24.719 --> 00:52:28.400
<v Speaker 1>year Devon ah Chan Uh? These got in. I think

1068
00:52:28.440 --> 00:52:33.639
<v Speaker 1>the difference in Henderson and uh Stevenson to me is

1069
00:52:33.800 --> 00:52:37.440
<v Speaker 1>almost the same as gives in Montgomery. I would say

1070
00:52:37.440 --> 00:52:41.280
<v Speaker 1>gives in Montgomery both better than their counterparts on the Patriots.

1071
00:52:41.559 --> 00:52:44.079
<v Speaker 1>But I think the gap is huge, and I think

1072
00:52:44.119 --> 00:52:47.480
<v Speaker 1>when you add a j. Brown, you add Romeo Dobbs. Uh.

1073
00:52:47.519 --> 00:52:51.000
<v Speaker 1>They faced the tenth and fourteenth most eight man boxes

1074
00:52:51.039 --> 00:52:54.440
<v Speaker 1>among running backs last year. That's gonna change. That benefits

1075
00:52:54.440 --> 00:52:57.880
<v Speaker 1>Henderson way more than it benefits Stevenson. So I think

1076
00:52:58.719 --> 00:53:01.639
<v Speaker 1>I'm on I'm on the Henderson here. I know there's

1077
00:53:01.719 --> 00:53:04.000
<v Speaker 1>a lot of reasons to like Stevenson as well, but

1078
00:53:04.440 --> 00:53:06.679
<v Speaker 1>why But that's why these guys are in this group

1079
00:53:07.159 --> 00:53:09.360
<v Speaker 1>right here? Is what you said, they're polarizing.

1080
00:53:09.480 --> 00:53:13.440
<v Speaker 2>I think you're getting one thing. I don't like Henderson

1081
00:53:13.480 --> 00:53:13.800
<v Speaker 2>a ton.

1082
00:53:14.280 --> 00:53:15.639
<v Speaker 1>I just for Henderson.

1083
00:53:15.679 --> 00:53:19.159
<v Speaker 2>I'm sorry, I'm sorry. I don't like Remandre a whole bunch.

1084
00:53:19.599 --> 00:53:24.840
<v Speaker 2>I interested in Trevon Henderson at his cost. He's fine.

1085
00:53:25.239 --> 00:53:28.079
<v Speaker 2>I just I don't have the path where I mean

1086
00:53:28.119 --> 00:53:30.679
<v Speaker 2>they They just added two new great wide receivers. I

1087
00:53:30.679 --> 00:53:33.320
<v Speaker 2>think are continued passing the ball. Obviously the schedule is

1088
00:53:33.320 --> 00:53:35.159
<v Speaker 2>a little bit harder than it was last year, But like,

1089
00:53:35.519 --> 00:53:39.000
<v Speaker 2>why do I believe that he is going to get

1090
00:53:39.440 --> 00:53:42.480
<v Speaker 2>X more amount of touches over Ramandra Stevenson when they

1091
00:53:42.519 --> 00:53:45.559
<v Speaker 2>cannot quit Remandre. They continuously talking about him. So Travon's

1092
00:53:45.559 --> 00:53:48.079
<v Speaker 2>super talented. I would love for it to happen. It's

1093
00:53:48.159 --> 00:53:50.840
<v Speaker 2>just like the same cost as last year. So I

1094
00:53:51.199 --> 00:53:53.719
<v Speaker 2>might be wrong and everybody that drafts him as a

1095
00:53:53.880 --> 00:53:56.000
<v Speaker 2>running back to oh, okay, that'd be cool. That's for

1096
00:53:56.000 --> 00:53:59.719
<v Speaker 2>the running back episode, I guess. But like, I'm not,

1097
00:54:00.119 --> 00:54:02.559
<v Speaker 2>I'm not into buying that that big change is going

1098
00:54:02.599 --> 00:54:04.639
<v Speaker 2>to happen because I don't see the path of why

1099
00:54:04.679 --> 00:54:06.840
<v Speaker 2>Reminder will disappear. If I can see the path of

1100
00:54:06.880 --> 00:54:08.920
<v Speaker 2>why a guy is going to disappear, by the way,

1101
00:54:09.239 --> 00:54:12.159
<v Speaker 2>I will be completely honest. You could take my same

1102
00:54:12.280 --> 00:54:14.480
<v Speaker 2>argument I'm making and use it. You could try to

1103
00:54:14.559 --> 00:54:16.960
<v Speaker 2>use it against me in this whole Tuba Jonathan Taylor thing,

1104
00:54:17.039 --> 00:54:19.039
<v Speaker 2>like why are they going to because you're a big

1105
00:54:19.119 --> 00:54:22.119
<v Speaker 2>Tuba guy, why are they going to quit Cuba? But

1106
00:54:22.280 --> 00:54:26.000
<v Speaker 2>here's the difference. Jonathan Taylor costs so much less than

1107
00:54:26.000 --> 00:54:29.480
<v Speaker 2>Trevon Henderson. World Jonathan Brooks, Jonathan Brooks. I'm sorry I

1108
00:54:29.519 --> 00:54:31.679
<v Speaker 2>keep saying Jonathan Taylor. Who's Jonathan Taylor.

1109
00:54:32.239 --> 00:54:33.440
<v Speaker 1>He's running back for the Colts.

1110
00:54:33.559 --> 00:54:38.119
<v Speaker 2>Okay, yeah, oh yeah, yeah, duh. But Jonathan Brooks comes

1111
00:54:38.119 --> 00:54:40.599
<v Speaker 2>at the cost of like an RB thirty five or forty, yeah,

1112
00:54:40.840 --> 00:54:42.800
<v Speaker 2>like that, where Trevon Henderson costs me like a fourth

1113
00:54:42.880 --> 00:54:43.639
<v Speaker 2>or fifth round Picke.

1114
00:54:43.760 --> 00:54:46.280
<v Speaker 1>No, I agree with that for sure. And look, I'm

1115
00:54:46.320 --> 00:54:48.840
<v Speaker 1>more positive on Brooks than I was a couple of

1116
00:54:48.840 --> 00:54:51.719
<v Speaker 1>weeks ago. We talked to dpak all. The news has

1117
00:54:51.760 --> 00:54:55.000
<v Speaker 1>been much much better on Brooks in the last even week,

1118
00:54:55.400 --> 00:54:58.599
<v Speaker 1>so I'm more positive on Brooks too. My point to

1119
00:54:58.599 --> 00:55:01.119
<v Speaker 1>the Tuba thing is that I think Cuba played hurt

1120
00:55:01.119 --> 00:55:04.320
<v Speaker 1>all you last year. It's completely different argument, way worse

1121
00:55:04.360 --> 00:55:07.760
<v Speaker 1>offense as well, and not enough changes in the Panthers offense.

1122
00:55:07.920 --> 00:55:10.079
<v Speaker 1>In the Patriots offense, you get Brown and dobbson there,

1123
00:55:10.119 --> 00:55:12.639
<v Speaker 1>make that opens up the offense so much. You just

1124
00:55:12.679 --> 00:55:15.239
<v Speaker 1>didn't have much there last year. So it's it's a

1125
00:55:15.239 --> 00:55:18.119
<v Speaker 1>weird argument. It's something that we paused on here during

1126
00:55:18.119 --> 00:55:22.320
<v Speaker 1>this But yeah, everybody send your Ramondre Stevenson trade offers

1127
00:55:22.320 --> 00:55:22.679
<v Speaker 1>to the well.

1128
00:55:22.760 --> 00:55:24.280
<v Speaker 2>She clearly went, I won't accept them.

1129
00:55:24.320 --> 00:55:25.599
<v Speaker 1>It won't be annoying at all.

1130
00:55:25.679 --> 00:55:27.719
<v Speaker 2>Then you're gonna get something over off on me.

1131
00:55:27.960 --> 00:55:28.320
<v Speaker 1>I don't.

1132
00:55:28.400 --> 00:55:31.519
<v Speaker 2>I'm not smashing the button for Andre Stevenson. I'm just

1133
00:55:31.599 --> 00:55:34.079
<v Speaker 2>definitely not smashing the button on Trevon Henderson. I would

1134
00:55:34.119 --> 00:55:37.519
<v Speaker 2>rather Sleeper has Bucky Irving two spots away from Trevion Henderson. No, thanks,

1135
00:55:37.519 --> 00:55:38.079
<v Speaker 2>I'll take buck.

1136
00:55:38.679 --> 00:55:42.159
<v Speaker 1>I I just want Welsh to complain about the stupid

1137
00:55:42.320 --> 00:55:45.000
<v Speaker 1>amount of Ramondre Stevenson trades that are in his box

1138
00:55:45.639 --> 00:55:47.239
<v Speaker 1>on the next show. That's all I want from me.

1139
00:55:47.400 --> 00:55:49.280
<v Speaker 2>I know. If I see him, great, we'll take a

1140
00:55:49.280 --> 00:55:50.760
<v Speaker 2>look at him. If you're if you're trying to get

1141
00:55:50.800 --> 00:55:53.199
<v Speaker 2>anything worthwhile, you can laugh. You know what I'll do.

1142
00:55:53.519 --> 00:55:55.480
<v Speaker 2>Just wait for me to respond. Just hold your breath

1143
00:55:55.519 --> 00:55:57.280
<v Speaker 2>away for me to respond. That's what I'd like you

1144
00:55:57.320 --> 00:55:57.480
<v Speaker 2>to do.

1145
00:55:57.599 --> 00:56:00.559
<v Speaker 1>Oh God, Stevenson somewhere so I can do it.

1146
00:56:00.760 --> 00:56:02.280
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, No, And I watch you to hold your breath

1147
00:56:02.280 --> 00:56:04.519
<v Speaker 2>for my response and then tell me if you know,

1148
00:56:04.679 --> 00:56:07.880
<v Speaker 2>tell me how that works. The other guys that are

1149
00:56:07.880 --> 00:56:10.559
<v Speaker 2>more expensive here, Jordan Tyson, Mackay Lemons. So I think

1150
00:56:10.559 --> 00:56:14.639
<v Speaker 2>we've kind of mentioned this. There's you know, some of everywhere, Yeah,

1151
00:56:14.679 --> 00:56:17.719
<v Speaker 2>specifically here Sleeper. It's really high. Kalaman on guys is

1152
00:56:17.880 --> 00:56:20.320
<v Speaker 2>a weird one that's there. There's a group of titands.

1153
00:56:20.320 --> 00:56:24.079
<v Speaker 2>I think, as you'd mentioned, Gatson, Henry Barner, Sadiq a

1154
00:56:24.079 --> 00:56:26.400
<v Speaker 2>little bit lower. It looks like Sleeper has made the

1155
00:56:26.440 --> 00:56:29.039
<v Speaker 2>adjustment versus a lot of people. With Stefan Diggs, he

1156
00:56:29.159 --> 00:56:32.880
<v Speaker 2>is going to be a higher cost here. We did

1157
00:56:32.920 --> 00:56:34.920
<v Speaker 2>the mock draft the other day and you were screaming like,

1158
00:56:34.960 --> 00:56:37.000
<v Speaker 2>oh crap, I forgot about Stefan Diggs. That kind of

1159
00:56:37.159 --> 00:56:40.559
<v Speaker 2>continuously happening. Yahoo has him low but not low enough,

1160
00:56:40.639 --> 00:56:43.360
<v Speaker 2>or has him too low. Sleeper has made the adjustment

1161
00:56:43.599 --> 00:56:47.360
<v Speaker 2>a couple others, Terence Ferguson, Emmett Johnson, Tyreek Hill for

1162
00:56:47.360 --> 00:56:49.760
<v Speaker 2>some reason. And would you look at this Deebo Samuel,

1163
00:56:49.760 --> 00:56:52.280
<v Speaker 2>Deebo Samuel. Actually, as we were recording this, like ten

1164
00:56:52.320 --> 00:56:55.199
<v Speaker 2>minutes ago, live here, Deebo Samuel signed a one year,

1165
00:56:55.320 --> 00:56:57.800
<v Speaker 2>seven million dollar deal to rejoin the forty nine ers.

1166
00:56:57.800 --> 00:57:00.079
<v Speaker 2>First off, vomit my mouth that they give him a

1167
00:57:00.159 --> 00:57:03.760
<v Speaker 2>million dollars and why I'd rather had stuff on digs.

1168
00:57:03.760 --> 00:57:06.119
<v Speaker 2>But fine, I'll have to retort that video from a

1169
00:57:06.119 --> 00:57:07.920
<v Speaker 2>couple of years ago where I took the autographed de

1170
00:57:08.000 --> 00:57:10.440
<v Speaker 2>Bo Samuel helmet and threw it. I'll have to go,

1171
00:57:10.960 --> 00:57:12.840
<v Speaker 2>you know what to see. It's right up right up

1172
00:57:12.880 --> 00:57:15.159
<v Speaker 2>in the right hand corner. I'll bring it back here.

1173
00:57:15.360 --> 00:57:19.360
<v Speaker 1>Right next to the cobwebs up there. Yeah, that's real

1174
00:57:19.400 --> 00:57:22.440
<v Speaker 1>bad news for Ricky Piersoll that they immediately go out.

1175
00:57:22.480 --> 00:57:24.960
<v Speaker 1>I know, maybe this debot thing was in the works

1176
00:57:24.960 --> 00:57:28.880
<v Speaker 1>for a little bit, but I feel like two days

1177
00:57:28.920 --> 00:57:31.599
<v Speaker 1>after Ricky gets hurt, they go out and they make

1178
00:57:31.639 --> 00:57:34.480
<v Speaker 1>it official and signed debo. Really not good news.

1179
00:57:34.760 --> 00:57:37.159
<v Speaker 2>Absolutely, I almost quote tweeted this while we were doing

1180
00:57:37.199 --> 00:57:39.639
<v Speaker 2>the show, like, you know, who cares about debo? This

1181
00:57:39.679 --> 00:57:41.519
<v Speaker 2>tells you all you need to know about the direction

1182
00:57:41.559 --> 00:57:44.159
<v Speaker 2>that's heading for Rickey Petersol for sure. Yea, that is

1183
00:57:44.199 --> 00:57:47.559
<v Speaker 2>sleeper in a hole. Let's go over to Yahoo. So

1184
00:57:47.880 --> 00:57:50.159
<v Speaker 2>Yahoo's got a lot less to tell in the deals. Again,

1185
00:57:50.280 --> 00:57:53.480
<v Speaker 2>take everything we've talked about before, kind of comparing this

1186
00:57:53.519 --> 00:57:55.599
<v Speaker 2>is one of those instances where you were going to

1187
00:57:55.679 --> 00:57:57.800
<v Speaker 2>get another deal we already mentioned. Drake me is a

1188
00:57:57.800 --> 00:57:59.599
<v Speaker 2>deal kind of everywhere Drake May is in here, there's

1189
00:57:59.599 --> 00:58:03.880
<v Speaker 2>another quarterbacking cam Ward. There's there's a little middle glut

1190
00:58:03.960 --> 00:58:08.280
<v Speaker 2>though they're probably like wide receiver threes, the wide receiver fours,

1191
00:58:08.320 --> 00:58:12.079
<v Speaker 2>probably more like fours, maybe even five's Courtland Sutton, Michael Pittman,

1192
00:58:12.119 --> 00:58:16.039
<v Speaker 2>and Wandel Robinson are random deals here that you highlight.

1193
00:58:16.159 --> 00:58:18.280
<v Speaker 2>You were only highlighting the really big big deals of

1194
00:58:18.320 --> 00:58:19.000
<v Speaker 2>what's the difference?

1195
00:58:19.039 --> 00:58:22.079
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, round difference, that's it, And I did it brainlessly.

1196
00:58:22.199 --> 00:58:24.039
<v Speaker 1>I was just looking at the numbers, not the players

1197
00:58:24.039 --> 00:58:27.880
<v Speaker 1>at all. So, uh, that's weird. It's weird to see

1198
00:58:27.960 --> 00:58:31.280
<v Speaker 1>like the specific players. Yahoo is very level headed this year,

1199
00:58:32.280 --> 00:58:36.280
<v Speaker 1>at least versus ECR. Right, not many deals to be had,

1200
00:58:36.480 --> 00:58:38.519
<v Speaker 1>not many guys that you're getting hit over the head.

1201
00:58:38.599 --> 00:58:41.360
<v Speaker 1>With some of the more popular ones you will like

1202
00:58:42.360 --> 00:58:47.360
<v Speaker 1>Parker Washington, Bryan Thomas, Jalen Wattle, and Lemons on every list.

1203
00:58:48.159 --> 00:58:51.400
<v Speaker 1>And actually DIGS is higher than ECR. So I don't

1204
00:58:51.400 --> 00:58:54.800
<v Speaker 1>know why I keep missing DIGS. But yeah, this is

1205
00:58:55.639 --> 00:58:57.840
<v Speaker 1>y'all who is very level headed. And I would say

1206
00:58:57.880 --> 00:59:02.280
<v Speaker 1>even the slight ranks are fairly normal as well, So

1207
00:59:02.800 --> 00:59:06.880
<v Speaker 1>this might be the best year of ranking for Yahoo,

1208
00:59:07.000 --> 00:59:08.679
<v Speaker 1>which I might have said last year as well.

1209
00:59:08.920 --> 00:59:11.679
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean, I don't like out of person don't

1210
00:59:11.679 --> 00:59:13.480
<v Speaker 2>like the burrow over may, but that's more just like

1211
00:59:13.559 --> 00:59:16.719
<v Speaker 2>me personally. I also didn't like the adjustment. It didn't

1212
00:59:16.840 --> 00:59:19.599
<v Speaker 2>live adjust to dramatically what we were doing. It was

1213
00:59:19.639 --> 00:59:21.880
<v Speaker 2>just like quarterbacks were still buried on the overall room.

1214
00:59:22.079 --> 00:59:24.199
<v Speaker 2>So you really didn't want to ask. Yeah, I think

1215
00:59:24.239 --> 00:59:25.880
<v Speaker 2>that was more of the important thing. But yeah, I

1216
00:59:25.880 --> 00:59:28.480
<v Speaker 2>guess like what you're saying there's really no like big deals.

1217
00:59:28.480 --> 00:59:30.760
<v Speaker 2>They are even kind of even level. There are a

1218
00:59:30.760 --> 00:59:33.639
<v Speaker 2>couple players though in the U will pay up fours,

1219
00:59:34.079 --> 00:59:35.760
<v Speaker 2>which I want to talk about in a second. The

1220
00:59:35.840 --> 00:59:38.559
<v Speaker 2>last on the quote deals a couple of tight ends Ferguson,

1221
00:59:38.599 --> 00:59:41.159
<v Speaker 2>Schultz Howkinson, Trey Harris. I know that's a guy that

1222
00:59:41.840 --> 00:59:44.840
<v Speaker 2>Erickson really likes. He's kind of buried down there. But

1223
00:59:44.880 --> 00:59:48.480
<v Speaker 2>specifically I'm into I'm not really into pit to Sutton.

1224
00:59:48.960 --> 00:59:51.360
<v Speaker 2>I'm indifferent about Pittman. Maybe you feel more excited about

1225
00:59:51.360 --> 00:59:53.639
<v Speaker 2>it as a Steelers fan. Wanda Robinson is someone I

1226
00:59:53.719 --> 00:59:56.199
<v Speaker 2>am drafting in a ton of spots, So I really

1227
00:59:56.280 --> 00:59:58.480
<v Speaker 2>like that deal. So Yahoo works for me and that

1228
00:59:58.559 --> 01:00:01.320
<v Speaker 2>I can get May and him as a de but

1229
01:00:01.360 --> 01:00:02.159
<v Speaker 2>there's really nothing else.

1230
01:00:02.199 --> 01:00:03.920
<v Speaker 1>Again, we got to get Jake on so we can

1231
01:00:03.920 --> 01:00:05.440
<v Speaker 1>talk about one Delle Robinson again.

1232
01:00:06.480 --> 01:00:09.599
<v Speaker 2>Well it was Jake argument. It was Jake and FITZI

1233
01:00:09.719 --> 01:00:13.079
<v Speaker 2>that both just absolutely tried to bury you last year.

1234
01:00:13.119 --> 01:00:15.400
<v Speaker 2>I remember FITZI was like, he was like, he's one

1235
01:00:15.440 --> 01:00:17.280
<v Speaker 2>of the most worthless picks on the planet. And I

1236
01:00:17.320 --> 01:00:19.039
<v Speaker 2>brought it up in the Ranks show week like five

1237
01:00:19.119 --> 01:00:21.159
<v Speaker 2>or six, and he gave you some flowers because.

1238
01:00:20.880 --> 01:00:23.000
<v Speaker 1>That was and you were.

1239
01:00:22.880 --> 01:00:25.000
<v Speaker 2>Definitely in the right there, I do.

1240
01:00:25.239 --> 01:00:29.639
<v Speaker 1>I will, I will buckle down and and and you know,

1241
01:00:29.760 --> 01:00:32.880
<v Speaker 1>dig a trench. Uh to protect a take that I

1242
01:00:32.920 --> 01:00:34.599
<v Speaker 1>think is real. That's what I had.

1243
01:00:35.440 --> 01:00:35.719
<v Speaker 2>I had.

1244
01:00:36.159 --> 01:00:38.880
<v Speaker 1>It's yeah, it's dug in trade me on way over

1245
01:00:38.920 --> 01:00:43.199
<v Speaker 1>Stevenson for sure. But uh, last year that was cam Skataboo.

1246
01:00:43.400 --> 01:00:44.280
<v Speaker 1>It was Wan Dale.

1247
01:00:44.880 --> 01:00:45.320
<v Speaker 2>Uh.

1248
01:00:45.599 --> 01:00:47.360
<v Speaker 1>There were a couple other guys that I'm not remembering

1249
01:00:47.440 --> 01:00:50.760
<v Speaker 1>right now, but that one I remember specifically. Jake was

1250
01:00:50.960 --> 01:00:51.559
<v Speaker 1>very rude.

1251
01:00:51.679 --> 01:00:52.960
<v Speaker 2>He was very rude about it.

1252
01:00:53.079 --> 01:00:55.519
<v Speaker 1>I'm also rude sometimes, but but Jake was.

1253
01:00:55.599 --> 01:00:58.440
<v Speaker 2>You've been rude multiple times this episode, so and you're

1254
01:00:58.440 --> 01:01:01.800
<v Speaker 2>also right when you're rude. But I definitely liked it

1255
01:01:01.880 --> 01:01:04.039
<v Speaker 2>because we're a lot of us. It really helps when

1256
01:01:04.039 --> 01:01:05.719
<v Speaker 2>you have like a grouping of people of that are

1257
01:01:05.760 --> 01:01:09.280
<v Speaker 2>actual friends and stuff, because like I wanted to call

1258
01:01:09.320 --> 01:01:12.159
<v Speaker 2>them out. I called Pat out on the show, and

1259
01:01:12.199 --> 01:01:14.039
<v Speaker 2>we can do that type of stuff because it's not

1260
01:01:14.159 --> 01:01:16.920
<v Speaker 2>just like being like, yeah, I'm not really with that take.

1261
01:01:17.039 --> 01:01:19.559
<v Speaker 2>It's like some of you guys will get like that's

1262
01:01:19.599 --> 01:01:21.800
<v Speaker 2>the worst ever. Like we did a show show on

1263
01:01:21.840 --> 01:01:26.920
<v Speaker 2>the tailgate. Erickson and Debro absolutely buried me and left

1264
01:01:26.920 --> 01:01:29.480
<v Speaker 2>me hanging on a take, which, by the way, I

1265
01:01:29.599 --> 01:01:31.360
<v Speaker 2>was on this when it was fun. It was not

1266
01:01:31.480 --> 01:01:33.840
<v Speaker 2>cool last year. Remember my Colts take where I'm like,

1267
01:01:33.880 --> 01:01:35.400
<v Speaker 2>the Colts are going to be the surprise team and

1268
01:01:35.440 --> 01:01:37.239
<v Speaker 2>you were giving me my flowers everywhere, and then they

1269
01:01:37.280 --> 01:01:40.119
<v Speaker 2>went off and we're the biggest pilot s on the planet.

1270
01:01:40.159 --> 01:01:42.440
<v Speaker 2>Where they lost seven straight. Maybe it looked like a dip,

1271
01:01:43.119 --> 01:01:45.280
<v Speaker 2>but I'm back on the Colts again this year in

1272
01:01:45.320 --> 01:01:48.000
<v Speaker 2>that division, and they just trashed me for it. They

1273
01:01:48.039 --> 01:01:48.679
<v Speaker 2>just left me hanging.

1274
01:01:48.760 --> 01:01:50.880
<v Speaker 1>I was like, all right, guys, did you guys did

1275
01:01:50.920 --> 01:01:51.559
<v Speaker 1>this last year?

1276
01:01:52.159 --> 01:01:55.880
<v Speaker 2>Debro said they will not beat They won't have one

1277
01:01:55.960 --> 01:01:58.719
<v Speaker 2>game where the Colts can beat the Texans or the Jaguars,

1278
01:01:58.719 --> 01:02:00.719
<v Speaker 2>and I'm like, get ready, because the Colts win one

1279
01:02:00.760 --> 01:02:02.519
<v Speaker 2>of those games, I'm gonna be in If the Colts

1280
01:02:02.559 --> 01:02:05.000
<v Speaker 2>win that division, I'm in my bet. By the way,

1281
01:02:05.039 --> 01:02:06.480
<v Speaker 2>the only thing I even put out there was the

1282
01:02:06.519 --> 01:02:08.639
<v Speaker 2>Colts would win like nine games or something like that

1283
01:02:08.719 --> 01:02:09.239
<v Speaker 2>this year.

1284
01:02:09.199 --> 01:02:10.119
<v Speaker 1>Not even the division.

1285
01:02:10.159 --> 01:02:12.760
<v Speaker 2>And then yeah, I don't even remember if it was.

1286
01:02:13.039 --> 01:02:14.840
<v Speaker 2>I think it was just my games of eight point

1287
01:02:14.880 --> 01:02:17.679
<v Speaker 2>five over and they just they just sked all over it.

1288
01:02:17.800 --> 01:02:20.800
<v Speaker 2>I'm ready to pounce, but I was also ready to

1289
01:02:20.840 --> 01:02:23.440
<v Speaker 2>defend you and pounce for you because you were so

1290
01:02:23.480 --> 01:02:25.519
<v Speaker 2>adamant about Wandale and you were so.

1291
01:02:25.440 --> 01:02:28.679
<v Speaker 1>Right about this in PPR and never so rude. The

1292
01:02:28.800 --> 01:02:32.239
<v Speaker 1>yards doesn't The yards don't matter as much, right, it's

1293
01:02:32.320 --> 01:02:35.679
<v Speaker 1>if he's getting Uh that was Jake was like, there's

1294
01:02:35.679 --> 01:02:37.800
<v Speaker 1>nowhere to grow off of what Wandal did. I'm like,

1295
01:02:37.840 --> 01:02:39.760
<v Speaker 1>why do I want him to grow? Just be the

1296
01:02:39.760 --> 01:02:41.840
<v Speaker 1>same guy you were last year. That's a wide receiver

1297
01:02:41.920 --> 01:02:43.920
<v Speaker 1>three and that's exactly what he did, and he got

1298
01:02:44.159 --> 01:02:45.119
<v Speaker 1>a better contract and.

1299
01:02:45.159 --> 01:02:48.199
<v Speaker 2>It was free ninety nine and guess what. Guess what,

1300
01:02:48.800 --> 01:02:51.400
<v Speaker 2>he's almost free ninety nine again. I'm trying to draft him.

1301
01:02:51.400 --> 01:02:52.960
<v Speaker 2>And why would I not draft him as my my

1302
01:02:53.000 --> 01:02:54.679
<v Speaker 2>fifth wide receiver in every single draft?

1303
01:02:54.679 --> 01:02:57.800
<v Speaker 1>Why? Amen? I got him inside my top one hundred.

1304
01:02:58.440 --> 01:03:00.599
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I'm with you on that one. I'm back. But

1305
01:03:00.639 --> 01:03:02.400
<v Speaker 2>it's like more popular to like him. But that's why

1306
01:03:02.480 --> 01:03:04.599
<v Speaker 2>Yahoo's gonna be a good place for us on the

1307
01:03:05.039 --> 01:03:09.199
<v Speaker 2>the not deals. I will admit again, there's like I'm

1308
01:03:09.199 --> 01:03:11.199
<v Speaker 2>actually gonna jump to the bottom here because I think

1309
01:03:11.199 --> 01:03:12.679
<v Speaker 2>there's a lot of things that don't matter to you.

1310
01:03:12.679 --> 01:03:12.960
<v Speaker 1>Guys.

1311
01:03:13.000 --> 01:03:16.760
<v Speaker 2>But just as a point, guys like Ferguson, k Tron Allen.

1312
01:03:16.800 --> 01:03:19.400
<v Speaker 2>If you're looking for a deer, Greg Doltcic, that's one

1313
01:03:19.480 --> 01:03:22.639
<v Speaker 2>for Ericson, Jaden Blue Desmond. I just don't think these

1314
01:03:22.679 --> 01:03:26.400
<v Speaker 2>really necessarily matter Jalen Naylor, Terris Ferguson. There's a there's

1315
01:03:26.440 --> 01:03:28.599
<v Speaker 2>a group of five though that I think are well.

1316
01:03:28.639 --> 01:03:30.400
<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna say four because Stefan Diggs is in this

1317
01:03:30.440 --> 01:03:34.199
<v Speaker 2>group as well. The ECR enough people have not made

1318
01:03:34.239 --> 01:03:37.119
<v Speaker 2>the rank adjustment because he hasn't signed. Hot tip to

1319
01:03:37.119 --> 01:03:40.000
<v Speaker 2>the sites for trying to push him higher, but Digs

1320
01:03:40.000 --> 01:03:42.480
<v Speaker 2>still fell to me in that draft. You sorry, go ahead,

1321
01:03:42.480 --> 01:03:44.519
<v Speaker 2>and then I'll mention I'm gonna I'm gonna hyper focus

1322
01:03:44.559 --> 01:03:45.480
<v Speaker 2>on the top four here in a South.

1323
01:03:45.719 --> 01:03:50.119
<v Speaker 1>ESPN doesn't change. I think Sleeper reacts to ADP. But

1324
01:03:50.239 --> 01:03:55.039
<v Speaker 1>I believe, if I'm not mistaken, Yahoo goes through rotal

1325
01:03:55.039 --> 01:03:59.960
<v Speaker 1>wire projections, right, So when Diggs was updated, as you know,

1326
01:04:01.119 --> 01:04:05.679
<v Speaker 1>a guy with stats in the rotal wire projections, I

1327
01:04:05.719 --> 01:04:08.280
<v Speaker 1>think that's what did it in Yahoo. And that's why

1328
01:04:08.280 --> 01:04:11.440
<v Speaker 1>you're seeing Diggs as a not a value at all

1329
01:04:11.760 --> 01:04:16.760
<v Speaker 1>versus ECR. Because ECR hasn't changed, but the projection has

1330
01:04:16.800 --> 01:04:19.400
<v Speaker 1>been updated for Diggs after his legal stuff and looks

1331
01:04:19.440 --> 01:04:21.719
<v Speaker 1>like he's gonna sign somewhere eventually and play this year.

1332
01:04:22.400 --> 01:04:24.719
<v Speaker 2>The four guys I think that are relevant to your

1333
01:04:24.840 --> 01:04:27.840
<v Speaker 2>drafting here are almost all top one hundred ECR guys.

1334
01:04:27.880 --> 01:04:30.840
<v Speaker 2>They're all top one hundred in Yahoo, and they are

1335
01:04:31.159 --> 01:04:35.679
<v Speaker 2>about around or more higher than what you're seeing versus ECR.

1336
01:04:36.239 --> 01:04:38.400
<v Speaker 2>The number one player, and this is really relative, is

1337
01:04:38.480 --> 01:04:41.079
<v Speaker 2>Jalen Waddle because I do want my shares of Jalen

1338
01:04:41.119 --> 01:04:44.360
<v Speaker 2>Waddle ECR. He's forty four, and I think that's important

1339
01:04:44.360 --> 01:04:48.239
<v Speaker 2>here because for whatever jankiness you want to get on,

1340
01:04:48.400 --> 01:04:52.039
<v Speaker 2>like what the the overall ECR looks like when you

1341
01:04:52.039 --> 01:04:55.719
<v Speaker 2>get in the top fifty is pretty granular. Jalen people love,

1342
01:04:55.840 --> 01:04:58.559
<v Speaker 2>just people love Jalen Waddle. This year, I'm into Jailen Waddle.

1343
01:04:58.599 --> 01:05:01.480
<v Speaker 2>Don't even start with Ericson's like that. He's still forty

1344
01:05:01.480 --> 01:05:05.000
<v Speaker 2>fourth in ECR, he's thirty one on Yahoo. You are

1345
01:05:05.000 --> 01:05:07.760
<v Speaker 2>getting no deals on him, and obviously you know he

1346
01:05:07.840 --> 01:05:10.599
<v Speaker 2>was still able to you know, it wasn't amazing last

1347
01:05:10.679 --> 01:05:13.639
<v Speaker 2>year in that crappy Dolph Dolphins offense. Nine hundred and

1348
01:05:13.679 --> 01:05:16.360
<v Speaker 2>ten yard six touchdowns or whatever. But everybody is going

1349
01:05:16.360 --> 01:05:18.199
<v Speaker 2>through the moon of him being the number one guy

1350
01:05:18.239 --> 01:05:20.920
<v Speaker 2>in Denver, how they're going to pass, how much he's loved,

1351
01:05:21.039 --> 01:05:22.840
<v Speaker 2>going to move through the offense. Like I'm I'm a

1352
01:05:22.880 --> 01:05:25.760
<v Speaker 2>buy in. He ain't getting any deals. You're talking about

1353
01:05:25.760 --> 01:05:28.519
<v Speaker 2>a twelve man. He's a third round pick. You might

1354
01:05:28.559 --> 01:05:30.559
<v Speaker 2>have to go wide receiver running back, and maybe you're

1355
01:05:30.599 --> 01:05:33.400
<v Speaker 2>lucky and he's your wide receiver two. In a perfect world,

1356
01:05:33.480 --> 01:05:35.440
<v Speaker 2>I'd like to get him in the fourth round. So

1357
01:05:35.519 --> 01:05:38.920
<v Speaker 2>maybe I have, you know, wide receiver two running back

1358
01:05:38.960 --> 01:05:40.920
<v Speaker 2>and then I get Wattle or Wattle comes in as

1359
01:05:40.920 --> 01:05:43.679
<v Speaker 2>my third wide out. He's just very expensive on that platform,

1360
01:05:43.719 --> 01:05:45.920
<v Speaker 2>and I think that's the most significant one that really

1361
01:05:45.960 --> 01:05:48.400
<v Speaker 2>stands out, is like Wattle being expensive on Yahoo.

1362
01:05:48.960 --> 01:05:51.239
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I'm not there with Waddle. I have him at

1363
01:05:51.280 --> 01:05:55.280
<v Speaker 1>forty five, his ECRs forty four, so thirty one. Heike's

1364
01:05:55.400 --> 01:05:56.519
<v Speaker 1>way too expensive for me.

1365
01:05:57.039 --> 01:05:58.639
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and I want I want to draft him, but

1366
01:05:58.679 --> 01:06:01.639
<v Speaker 2>like that's gonna maybe price me especially. I'm not looking.

1367
01:06:01.679 --> 01:06:04.400
<v Speaker 2>Do you have the just blanket ranks here that I

1368
01:06:04.400 --> 01:06:06.039
<v Speaker 2>can look at? What are we doing? We're doing Yahoo

1369
01:06:06.119 --> 01:06:06.440
<v Speaker 2>right now?

1370
01:06:06.719 --> 01:06:07.239
<v Speaker 1>Yeah?

1371
01:06:07.280 --> 01:06:11.639
<v Speaker 2>What is a Mecca. Yeah, I mean a Mecca's forty

1372
01:06:11.840 --> 01:06:18.159
<v Speaker 2>on that list, so he is almost around behind Wattle.

1373
01:06:18.239 --> 01:06:21.800
<v Speaker 2>He is positionally, he's like four spots lower, but from

1374
01:06:21.840 --> 01:06:25.760
<v Speaker 2>an overall perspective, like like if I have a choice between, hey,

1375
01:06:25.760 --> 01:06:27.679
<v Speaker 2>should I spend my third round on Wattle or should

1376
01:06:27.719 --> 01:06:29.360
<v Speaker 2>I take you know, the running back that I want,

1377
01:06:29.400 --> 01:06:31.639
<v Speaker 2>like a kyrin r Javante and then come back in

1378
01:06:31.679 --> 01:06:33.320
<v Speaker 2>the forth and get a Mecca. I'm gonna do that

1379
01:06:33.400 --> 01:06:36.000
<v Speaker 2>every single time, even though I like what I agree, okay,

1380
01:06:36.400 --> 01:06:38.280
<v Speaker 2>and that's more of our person I have Wattle, I.

1381
01:06:38.280 --> 01:06:40.840
<v Speaker 1>Had of Aguka two and in a different tier, but

1382
01:06:40.880 --> 01:06:41.360
<v Speaker 1>I'm with you.

1383
01:06:41.440 --> 01:06:43.840
<v Speaker 2>And then both Jaguars wide receiver. You guys did an

1384
01:06:43.840 --> 01:06:46.400
<v Speaker 2>episode is funny. I was watching it. It was a

1385
01:06:46.400 --> 01:06:49.320
<v Speaker 2>Fantasy Pros video where you guys just did this blanket conversation.

1386
01:06:49.400 --> 01:06:51.480
<v Speaker 2>It was all the Jaguars pass catchers and you guys

1387
01:06:51.480 --> 01:06:53.960
<v Speaker 2>were kind of battling through and talking. They're both more

1388
01:06:53.960 --> 01:06:56.880
<v Speaker 2>expensive on Yahoo. Brian Thomas is seventy eight on ECR,

1389
01:06:57.199 --> 01:07:01.880
<v Speaker 2>like sixty five overall on Yah. Who Parker Washington is

1390
01:07:02.079 --> 01:07:05.159
<v Speaker 2>eighty five on ECR, but he's six seven six seven

1391
01:07:05.280 --> 01:07:08.960
<v Speaker 2>sixty seven on there So the thing that I really

1392
01:07:09.039 --> 01:07:11.320
<v Speaker 2>like about Parker Washington this year, outside of like I

1393
01:07:11.320 --> 01:07:13.559
<v Speaker 2>think it's I think, I know you're not big on him.

1394
01:07:13.760 --> 01:07:16.239
<v Speaker 2>I think there's an easy platform for him to surpass

1395
01:07:16.320 --> 01:07:19.760
<v Speaker 2>Brian Thomas's production. But it's pretty sexy when Parker Washington

1396
01:07:19.800 --> 01:07:22.159
<v Speaker 2>goes like two rounds lower, two or three rounds lower

1397
01:07:22.159 --> 01:07:24.519
<v Speaker 2>than Brian Thomas or even around.

1398
01:07:24.360 --> 01:07:25.239
<v Speaker 1>They're next to each other.

1399
01:07:25.280 --> 01:07:27.360
<v Speaker 2>Now they're next to each other. They're both expensive, and

1400
01:07:27.400 --> 01:07:30.360
<v Speaker 2>they're both there that that does feel like it might

1401
01:07:30.440 --> 01:07:32.039
<v Speaker 2>start to price me out a little bit. But I

1402
01:07:32.039 --> 01:07:34.800
<v Speaker 2>know you're just like I think you know Thomas over anybody, But.

1403
01:07:34.719 --> 01:07:37.840
<v Speaker 1>I'm nobody in Jacksonville. You know what? The nice thing

1404
01:07:37.840 --> 01:07:40.960
<v Speaker 1>about the Jaguars wide receivers are They're like a card

1405
01:07:41.000 --> 01:07:43.480
<v Speaker 1>game in a casino that I don't know. I ain't

1406
01:07:43.519 --> 01:07:46.039
<v Speaker 1>playing it. I'm not gonna do it. I'm gonna walk

1407
01:07:46.119 --> 01:07:49.039
<v Speaker 1>right past that table. I may watch other people play

1408
01:07:49.079 --> 01:07:50.960
<v Speaker 1>at that table and go, what's going on here? This

1409
01:07:51.079 --> 01:07:54.440
<v Speaker 1>is interesting, but I'm not getting involved. That is basically

1410
01:07:54.440 --> 01:07:56.920
<v Speaker 1>how I see the Jaguars wide receiver room. I don't

1411
01:07:56.920 --> 01:07:58.639
<v Speaker 1>know who's gonna be the best there. I don't know

1412
01:07:58.639 --> 01:08:00.719
<v Speaker 1>how much thirteen personnel are going to run, but they

1413
01:08:00.800 --> 01:08:04.599
<v Speaker 1>drafted two tight ends and extended runt and strange. I

1414
01:08:04.639 --> 01:08:07.199
<v Speaker 1>hate the running back group as well. Trevor Lawrence is

1415
01:08:07.239 --> 01:08:09.440
<v Speaker 1>my answer to anything with Jackuars. That's who I want

1416
01:08:09.440 --> 01:08:12.000
<v Speaker 1>from Jacksonville. And that's about it. Lots of IDPs I

1417
01:08:12.039 --> 01:08:16.800
<v Speaker 1>like from Jacksonville, but no no players but Lawrence.

1418
01:08:16.520 --> 01:08:18.760
<v Speaker 2>On I'm definitely with you on Lawrence. And and you know,

1419
01:08:18.880 --> 01:08:21.920
<v Speaker 2>I mean Erickson is the freaking conductor of the Trevor

1420
01:08:22.000 --> 01:08:24.760
<v Speaker 2>Lawrence train. Like he's making cases he could be number

1421
01:08:24.760 --> 01:08:27.800
<v Speaker 2>one overall at quarterback like I have him higher I

1422
01:08:27.840 --> 01:08:31.079
<v Speaker 2>have Lawrence. I think it's seven at quarterback. So I'm

1423
01:08:31.119 --> 01:08:34.199
<v Speaker 2>with you on that. I do want my Parker Washington's

1424
01:08:34.239 --> 01:08:36.520
<v Speaker 2>where I can. I just don't want it at that cost.

1425
01:08:36.600 --> 01:08:41.640
<v Speaker 2>Like sixty seven is sixth round. I think if you're

1426
01:08:41.680 --> 01:08:45.239
<v Speaker 2>in a twelve man, that's like a six round overall,

1427
01:08:45.319 --> 01:08:48.319
<v Speaker 2>Like that's a wide receiver two, maybe a three. I

1428
01:08:48.399 --> 01:08:50.520
<v Speaker 2>really like the advantage of Parker Washington as my wide

1429
01:08:50.520 --> 01:08:52.600
<v Speaker 2>receiver four. That's where I want to be invested in

1430
01:08:52.680 --> 01:08:55.920
<v Speaker 2>him because I want the I want there's my receiver.

1431
01:08:56.039 --> 01:08:58.760
<v Speaker 1>One upside in that offense for Parker Washington.

1432
01:08:58.920 --> 01:09:01.640
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but like I want Parker Washington's growth to be

1433
01:09:02.079 --> 01:09:04.479
<v Speaker 2>the floor. I draft him as a four, so like,

1434
01:09:04.680 --> 01:09:07.079
<v Speaker 2>it doesn't take a whole lot of equity when he

1435
01:09:07.119 --> 01:09:08.840
<v Speaker 2>could get me my three, then there's a return on

1436
01:09:08.920 --> 01:09:11.279
<v Speaker 2>value when you draft him as a three. He's really

1437
01:09:11.279 --> 01:09:14.119
<v Speaker 2>got to overperform, and that's getting and sometimes when you're

1438
01:09:14.159 --> 01:09:16.880
<v Speaker 2>in the world of like get your guys and hey,

1439
01:09:16.880 --> 01:09:19.199
<v Speaker 2>by the way, Parker Washington, I project him to be

1440
01:09:19.279 --> 01:09:21.119
<v Speaker 2>a wide receiver two, then what the hell you care?

1441
01:09:21.640 --> 01:09:24.760
<v Speaker 2>But like, I think I'll be a room in my construction.

1442
01:09:24.640 --> 01:09:27.800
<v Speaker 1>That it would be great for Jacksonville a really crappy defense.

1443
01:09:27.880 --> 01:09:30.439
<v Speaker 1>If you could give them the Bengals defense, that would

1444
01:09:30.479 --> 01:09:32.760
<v Speaker 1>be awesome. Then they would have to play catch up.

1445
01:09:32.880 --> 01:09:35.079
<v Speaker 1>Everybody could add some value. Ain't gonna be like that

1446
01:09:35.079 --> 01:09:37.720
<v Speaker 1>though their defense is pretty good. The other one, I'd

1447
01:09:37.760 --> 01:09:39.479
<v Speaker 1>also don't like the Colts for the division.

1448
01:09:39.600 --> 01:09:43.000
<v Speaker 2>But the last one, okay, you guys, I mean again,

1449
01:09:43.000 --> 01:09:45.359
<v Speaker 2>it was eight point five wins. That was my bet.

1450
01:09:45.399 --> 01:09:48.640
<v Speaker 2>It was eight point five over wins was my favorite bet. There.

1451
01:09:48.840 --> 01:09:50.760
<v Speaker 1>You usually do this to me. How am I getting

1452
01:09:50.800 --> 01:09:53.079
<v Speaker 1>you so flustered today? This is crazy?

1453
01:09:53.600 --> 01:09:55.920
<v Speaker 2>You know what? Whatever Jake says, I'm gonna go defend him.

1454
01:09:56.760 --> 01:09:58.880
<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna go listen to whatever he's doing right now.

1455
01:09:58.960 --> 01:10:01.800
<v Speaker 2>The only other one is mckaylain and on Yahoo everywhere

1456
01:10:01.800 --> 01:10:04.720
<v Speaker 2>across the board, all the sites.

1457
01:10:04.880 --> 01:10:06.079
<v Speaker 1>Okay, Doke, let's go to.

1458
01:10:06.199 --> 01:10:09.479
<v Speaker 2>ESPN because there's a lot here there. You kind of

1459
01:10:09.520 --> 01:10:11.199
<v Speaker 2>already did a lot of covering, so I'm going to

1460
01:10:11.279 --> 01:10:12.720
<v Speaker 2>kind of jump through because you mentioned a lot of

1461
01:10:12.720 --> 01:10:14.560
<v Speaker 2>the names, but this is going to be a rehash.

1462
01:10:14.680 --> 01:10:16.880
<v Speaker 2>These are the players on ESPN that are dramatically more

1463
01:10:17.119 --> 01:10:20.159
<v Speaker 2>expensive than ECR, and a lot of these also check

1464
01:10:20.199 --> 01:10:22.840
<v Speaker 2>the box of being dramatically more expensive than the other sites.

1465
01:10:23.159 --> 01:10:25.279
<v Speaker 2>Starting with AJ Brown and T Higgins, those are your

1466
01:10:25.279 --> 01:10:28.439
<v Speaker 2>top two. AJ Brown's significant because he does go in

1467
01:10:28.479 --> 01:10:30.920
<v Speaker 2>the first round in some spots, but he is twenty

1468
01:10:30.960 --> 01:10:34.159
<v Speaker 2>eight on ESPN on the overall that is wildly different.

1469
01:10:34.680 --> 01:10:38.880
<v Speaker 2>And then T Higgins is thirty on ECR, forty six

1470
01:10:38.920 --> 01:10:42.479
<v Speaker 2>on ESPN. I don't click T higgins name a lot,

1471
01:10:43.039 --> 01:10:45.800
<v Speaker 2>but he low key just continuously does produce. The AJ

1472
01:10:45.880 --> 01:10:47.960
<v Speaker 2>Brown one is one I'd love to have some investment on.

1473
01:10:48.039 --> 01:10:50.439
<v Speaker 2>I feel like ESPN is going to give me the

1474
01:10:50.439 --> 01:10:52.399
<v Speaker 2>best opportunity if I can get him somewhere in the

1475
01:10:52.399 --> 01:10:54.039
<v Speaker 2>mid second round. You're just not going to do that

1476
01:10:54.119 --> 01:10:55.199
<v Speaker 2>in most other spots.

1477
01:10:55.479 --> 01:10:57.239
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I mean that's a third round pick where they

1478
01:10:57.239 --> 01:10:59.640
<v Speaker 1>have him at twenty eight. That's that you're in the

1479
01:10:59.680 --> 01:11:03.560
<v Speaker 1>third getting AJ Brown with a much better quarterback this

1480
01:11:03.640 --> 01:11:08.960
<v Speaker 1>year for him. So I really, I really think that

1481
01:11:09.079 --> 01:11:13.079
<v Speaker 1>this goes to ESPN not moving their guys once they

1482
01:11:13.119 --> 01:11:16.399
<v Speaker 1>set them in. They typically don't move them. They have

1483
01:11:17.079 --> 01:11:19.960
<v Speaker 1>done it more I think recently than they have in

1484
01:11:19.960 --> 01:11:22.520
<v Speaker 1>the past. So maybe he does get moved up eventually,

1485
01:11:22.520 --> 01:11:24.520
<v Speaker 1>but he ain't gonna make it to fourteen. So AJ

1486
01:11:24.640 --> 01:11:28.079
<v Speaker 1>Brown's gonna be a deal every time one is ESPN.

1487
01:11:28.680 --> 01:11:30.880
<v Speaker 2>There's a grouping of quarterbacks again that I'm gonna kind

1488
01:11:30.880 --> 01:11:33.640
<v Speaker 2>of just move away from. But Lamar Jackson, Drake May,

1489
01:11:33.720 --> 01:11:37.119
<v Speaker 2>Joe Burrow, also Kayler Williams, and Justin Herbert. Those guys

1490
01:11:37.119 --> 01:11:39.680
<v Speaker 2>from an ECRs perspective are all inside the top seventy.

1491
01:11:40.239 --> 01:11:42.760
<v Speaker 2>They range from fifty six down to ninety four, So

1492
01:11:42.760 --> 01:11:45.680
<v Speaker 2>you're gonna get deals there. Two wide receivers we've we've

1493
01:11:45.880 --> 01:11:48.279
<v Speaker 2>clicked one of these names before, but you got Christian

1494
01:11:48.279 --> 01:11:52.520
<v Speaker 2>Watson and Mike Evans ECR. Mike Evans is actually the

1495
01:11:52.640 --> 01:11:55.359
<v Speaker 2>higher one at fifty one. I probably don't help that

1496
01:11:55.720 --> 01:11:58.840
<v Speaker 2>Christian Watson is fifty seven on ECR. But these guys

1497
01:11:58.880 --> 01:12:01.760
<v Speaker 2>come in the late events of ESPN, so probably the

1498
01:12:01.800 --> 01:12:05.039
<v Speaker 2>best deals you're going to find on these these two players.

1499
01:12:05.560 --> 01:12:08.399
<v Speaker 2>I'm cool with Christian Watson. Actually almost wanted to draft

1500
01:12:08.479 --> 01:12:13.199
<v Speaker 2>him in the the super flex mak we did. But

1501
01:12:13.399 --> 01:12:18.479
<v Speaker 2>I'm pretty like outwardly out there about Mike Evans being it. Now,

1502
01:12:18.720 --> 01:12:20.720
<v Speaker 2>maybe you can make an argument. Okay, they just brought

1503
01:12:20.720 --> 01:12:23.239
<v Speaker 2>in Deebo Samuel. I know it does feel very eye rolly,

1504
01:12:23.600 --> 01:12:26.840
<v Speaker 2>but Debo thrived with San Francisco, and they're gonna use

1505
01:12:26.840 --> 01:12:29.039
<v Speaker 2>Debo in different roles and stuff like that. The thing

1506
01:12:29.079 --> 01:12:32.840
<v Speaker 2>I don't like about this is I loved that Puresol

1507
01:12:33.000 --> 01:12:35.720
<v Speaker 2>was he was the ability to stretch the field and

1508
01:12:35.800 --> 01:12:38.359
<v Speaker 2>he kind of like he separates the defenses. Debo's not

1509
01:12:38.359 --> 01:12:40.439
<v Speaker 2>going to separate anything like Mike.

1510
01:12:40.520 --> 01:12:42.239
<v Speaker 1>Like shortened go guys.

1511
01:12:42.319 --> 01:12:44.239
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I wanted the field to be stretched out for

1512
01:12:44.359 --> 01:12:46.239
<v Speaker 2>Mike Evans, but like Mike Evans is going to make

1513
01:12:46.279 --> 01:12:48.119
<v Speaker 2>the majority of his work in the red zone and

1514
01:12:48.159 --> 01:12:49.760
<v Speaker 2>I'm not sure Debo's going to take away from that.

1515
01:12:49.760 --> 01:12:51.640
<v Speaker 2>And Debo's not going to be like a two wide receiver.

1516
01:12:51.720 --> 01:12:53.840
<v Speaker 2>I actually, honestly, I look at this, I think Debo

1517
01:12:53.960 --> 01:12:56.399
<v Speaker 2>might still be just a gadgety type of player. They

1518
01:12:56.479 --> 01:12:58.960
<v Speaker 2>might two wide receiver set with a with a guy

1519
01:12:59.000 --> 01:13:01.880
<v Speaker 2>like Stribbling. But I just don't think Deebo has any

1520
01:13:02.399 --> 01:13:04.479
<v Speaker 2>bearing over Mike Evans, so I want to draft him here.

1521
01:13:04.880 --> 01:13:07.000
<v Speaker 2>So I am clicking Mike Evans's name a lot, maybe

1522
01:13:07.000 --> 01:13:09.239
<v Speaker 2>not Christian Watson, but you're gonna get tremendous deals on

1523
01:13:09.399 --> 01:13:10.199
<v Speaker 2>ESPN for those two.

1524
01:13:10.880 --> 01:13:14.279
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. I like that too. ESPN has a very weird

1525
01:13:15.119 --> 01:13:19.640
<v Speaker 1>sense every time. Uh, they're better than they have been

1526
01:13:19.640 --> 01:13:22.800
<v Speaker 1>in the past. I'll give them that for sure. But

1527
01:13:23.000 --> 01:13:25.720
<v Speaker 1>there's still way more guys on this list that have

1528
01:13:25.800 --> 01:13:29.119
<v Speaker 1>a round difference and comparatively to the other sites as well.

1529
01:13:29.600 --> 01:13:32.640
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and so then there's a handful of running backs

1530
01:13:32.640 --> 01:13:36.319
<v Speaker 2>and this is probably like your maybe yeah you RB

1531
01:13:36.399 --> 01:13:39.159
<v Speaker 2>three's maybe flexi type of guys. But you've got Jalen Warren,

1532
01:13:39.279 --> 01:13:43.439
<v Speaker 2>Remandra Stevenson, Rico Dowell, JK. Dobbins, R. J. Harvey, Kalmanoga,

1533
01:13:43.560 --> 01:13:48.479
<v Speaker 2>and Blake Korum. The overalls are minimum around higher of

1534
01:13:48.520 --> 01:13:54.199
<v Speaker 2>what ECR has them from where they're placed out Warren, Stevenson, Dowdell.

1535
01:13:54.800 --> 01:13:56.600
<v Speaker 2>I guess all. I didn't realize all these guys are

1536
01:13:56.640 --> 01:14:01.000
<v Speaker 2>top one hundred ECR, but Dobbins, Harvey, Manongay Quorum are

1537
01:14:01.119 --> 01:14:04.000
<v Speaker 2>outside the top one hundred overall on their board. So

1538
01:14:04.039 --> 01:14:06.640
<v Speaker 2>those guys are gonna kind of hang a little bit lower,

1539
01:14:06.840 --> 01:14:08.000
<v Speaker 2>hang a little bit lower. You gonna be able to

1540
01:14:08.039 --> 01:14:09.520
<v Speaker 2>maybe get a little sneaky sneak if.

1541
01:14:09.439 --> 01:14:11.239
<v Speaker 1>I mean, what else he's gonna love this? Look at

1542
01:14:11.279 --> 01:14:12.279
<v Speaker 1>how cheap Stevenson is.

1543
01:14:12.319 --> 01:14:14.600
<v Speaker 2>Steven's very cheap. I might have a share there. I

1544
01:14:14.640 --> 01:14:17.039
<v Speaker 2>don't mind Doubtel in Pittsburgh and on how you feel

1545
01:14:17.079 --> 01:14:20.560
<v Speaker 2>about that. I'm a JK. Dobbins drafter and I like Korum.

1546
01:14:20.560 --> 01:14:22.520
<v Speaker 2>I'm not specifically, I don't really clear.

1547
01:14:22.760 --> 01:14:24.720
<v Speaker 1>You actually kind of would like to draft on ESPN

1548
01:14:24.800 --> 01:14:27.199
<v Speaker 1>no sarcasm. Yeah, I think you would like to draft

1549
01:14:27.199 --> 01:14:28.119
<v Speaker 1>on esp I don't want to.

1550
01:14:28.079 --> 01:14:29.800
<v Speaker 2>Play on there. I'm not gonna go open the app.

1551
01:14:29.840 --> 01:14:32.279
<v Speaker 2>That'll be my problem draft. Yeah, yeah, the boards would

1552
01:14:32.279 --> 01:14:35.000
<v Speaker 2>work well for me. So anybody anything on those running

1553
01:14:35.000 --> 01:14:36.960
<v Speaker 2>backs there that stand out to you. I mean, the

1554
01:14:37.000 --> 01:14:39.119
<v Speaker 2>guys like Dabel and Warren are like almost next to

1555
01:14:39.159 --> 01:14:41.640
<v Speaker 2>each other, as are Dobbins at Harvey. Sometimes that's a

1556
01:14:41.640 --> 01:14:42.199
<v Speaker 2>little lazy.

1557
01:14:42.279 --> 01:14:45.159
<v Speaker 1>We'll get into it in a more overarching sense of

1558
01:14:45.359 --> 01:14:48.079
<v Speaker 1>ESPN in a little bit, but I feel like there's

1559
01:14:48.119 --> 01:14:52.000
<v Speaker 1>a lot of it's just no rhyme or reason, right, Okay.

1560
01:14:51.760 --> 01:14:53.800
<v Speaker 2>So that's I guess it's gonna be built around the

1561
01:14:53.840 --> 01:14:58.239
<v Speaker 2>negatives and I all right, So other deals Tucker Craft, dramatic, dramatic,

1562
01:14:58.279 --> 01:15:01.840
<v Speaker 2>as we mentioned, Chris Godwin, Quinn Johnston, huge deals on

1563
01:15:02.079 --> 01:15:06.880
<v Speaker 2>ESPN versus other sites, and just ECR, Jared Goff, Baker, Mayfield, Tyrone,

1564
01:15:06.920 --> 01:15:11.600
<v Speaker 2>Tracy Tyler, Algier, Briton, Strange, Ward and Stroud. What's interesting about.

1565
01:15:11.359 --> 01:15:14.600
<v Speaker 1>That Strange and Ward, by the way, fifty spots off

1566
01:15:14.600 --> 01:15:15.279
<v Speaker 1>their ECR.

1567
01:15:15.560 --> 01:15:18.560
<v Speaker 2>That's huge. Probably works out well for superflex if you

1568
01:15:18.600 --> 01:15:21.520
<v Speaker 2>play on ESPN. There are these are players that are

1569
01:15:21.520 --> 01:15:24.720
<v Speaker 2>not inside the top two hundred of ESPN that are

1570
01:15:24.840 --> 01:15:27.840
<v Speaker 2>on ECR. So I'm going to just rattle through these names.

1571
01:15:27.880 --> 01:15:30.239
<v Speaker 2>There's some significant ones in here, at least for your

1572
01:15:30.479 --> 01:15:34.680
<v Speaker 2>bench construction. Dylan Samson not top two hundred, Sam Darnold,

1573
01:15:34.880 --> 01:15:40.680
<v Speaker 2>same Arondi, Gadsten, Chicka Conkquo, Jonah Coleman, Bryce Dalton Schultz,

1574
01:15:40.920 --> 01:15:43.800
<v Speaker 2>Trey Harris, and Ryan Florina. All of those players are

1575
01:15:43.800 --> 01:15:46.279
<v Speaker 2>outside the top two hundred. So if you are cheat

1576
01:15:46.319 --> 01:15:48.479
<v Speaker 2>cheating it, or as I mentioned before, if you've got

1577
01:15:48.479 --> 01:15:51.199
<v Speaker 2>something like draft assistant in draft assistant is going to

1578
01:15:51.239 --> 01:15:53.800
<v Speaker 2>be screaming at you compared to the board if people

1579
01:15:53.800 --> 01:15:56.479
<v Speaker 2>are not scrolling, because ECR is going to have a

1580
01:15:56.520 --> 01:15:59.319
<v Speaker 2>guy like Chicka con Quo at one fifty three or

1581
01:15:59.439 --> 01:16:02.159
<v Speaker 2>Dylan Sam's at one two, and if you're pushing down

1582
01:16:02.199 --> 01:16:03.960
<v Speaker 2>the board, it's going to be screaming what a deal

1583
01:16:04.039 --> 01:16:06.359
<v Speaker 2>this is versus how these boards are drafting out now.

1584
01:16:06.359 --> 01:16:08.720
<v Speaker 2>It doesn't mean they're going to be the greatest deals

1585
01:16:08.720 --> 01:16:11.159
<v Speaker 2>on the planet, but they're buried and people are gonna

1586
01:16:11.159 --> 01:16:12.800
<v Speaker 2>forget about guys like a conco I know, you like

1587
01:16:12.880 --> 01:16:15.840
<v Speaker 2>Jonah Coleman and stuff like that. I like that Laiden

1588
01:16:15.880 --> 01:16:16.479
<v Speaker 2>drafts as well.

1589
01:16:16.520 --> 01:16:19.680
<v Speaker 1>I mean, just like we said before, just know the names, right,

1590
01:16:19.840 --> 01:16:21.479
<v Speaker 1>if you look at the sheet, you know the names.

1591
01:16:21.520 --> 01:16:23.960
<v Speaker 1>Go through for yourself. You know, you can go in

1592
01:16:24.000 --> 01:16:25.880
<v Speaker 1>a mock draft. If you're playing in a PPR league

1593
01:16:25.920 --> 01:16:28.680
<v Speaker 1>or a standard league, go into a mock draft. Click

1594
01:16:28.720 --> 01:16:33.199
<v Speaker 1>on that. Uh it says adjust pre rankings click on

1595
01:16:33.319 --> 01:16:36.000
<v Speaker 1>that and you can see where everybody's ranked, so you

1596
01:16:36.039 --> 01:16:38.039
<v Speaker 1>can see if there's a name that jumps out to you.

1597
01:16:38.319 --> 01:16:40.479
<v Speaker 1>If you're drafting on ESPN, it's a good strategy even

1598
01:16:40.479 --> 01:16:43.399
<v Speaker 1>if you're not looking, uh you know at certain sheets

1599
01:16:43.399 --> 01:16:46.399
<v Speaker 1>that Reddit has, we have, or whoever has, so uh,

1600
01:16:46.760 --> 01:16:49.159
<v Speaker 1>just know where some of these deals can be found.

1601
01:16:49.239 --> 01:16:51.880
<v Speaker 1>Jonah Coleman is beyond the top two hundred. That is

1602
01:16:51.960 --> 01:16:53.000
<v Speaker 1>absolutely outstanding.

1603
01:16:53.079 --> 01:16:54.920
<v Speaker 2>Love that now what you were talking about probably more

1604
01:16:54.960 --> 01:16:58.119
<v Speaker 2>of the trend here is ESPN you are going to

1605
01:16:58.159 --> 01:17:00.760
<v Speaker 2>be paying up for. Definitely there's a young guy thing

1606
01:17:00.800 --> 01:17:03.279
<v Speaker 2>in here, but there is the higher end running back

1607
01:17:03.359 --> 01:17:06.079
<v Speaker 2>and then the mid tier wide receiver. There's a big group,

1608
01:17:06.239 --> 01:17:09.640
<v Speaker 2>so the running backs will stop there. Jeremiah Love, as

1609
01:17:09.680 --> 01:17:12.680
<v Speaker 2>mentioned before, the biggest problem of all the things we

1610
01:17:12.720 --> 01:17:15.119
<v Speaker 2>could point out across the board, if you want to

1611
01:17:15.119 --> 01:17:17.039
<v Speaker 2>look at what what are you getting out of this

1612
01:17:17.119 --> 01:17:20.960
<v Speaker 2>episode is ESPN's Jeremiah Love thing is crazy. It's really

1613
01:17:21.039 --> 01:17:22.159
<v Speaker 2>high up there, and it is.

1614
01:17:22.079 --> 01:17:25.039
<v Speaker 1>After Kraft thing one works for you, one works well for.

1615
01:17:25.000 --> 01:17:27.359
<v Speaker 2>You, good point, and it is going to come to

1616
01:17:27.479 --> 01:17:30.439
<v Speaker 2>head here as Jeremiah Love is just naturally going to

1617
01:17:30.479 --> 01:17:33.000
<v Speaker 2>fall a little bit with all the negative stuff, but

1618
01:17:33.159 --> 01:17:36.439
<v Speaker 2>the twelve what which what I think is unique about

1619
01:17:36.439 --> 01:17:39.239
<v Speaker 2>that Jeremiah Love is going to continuously not be a

1620
01:17:39.239 --> 01:17:41.119
<v Speaker 2>deal if he's going to stay up on the top

1621
01:17:41.199 --> 01:17:43.520
<v Speaker 2>end of your board the whole time, and someone's gonna

1622
01:17:43.520 --> 01:17:45.319
<v Speaker 2>finally click it way earlier than other sides. But you

1623
01:17:45.319 --> 01:17:48.680
<v Speaker 2>have Jeremiah Love ECR is thirty three, ESPN IS twelve,

1624
01:17:48.960 --> 01:17:52.760
<v Speaker 2>Josh Jacobs thirty five, ECR ESPN is twenty one, Breese

1625
01:17:52.760 --> 01:17:57.800
<v Speaker 2>Hall thirty seven, ECR ESPN twenty three, quinch On Jutkins

1626
01:17:57.840 --> 01:17:59.960
<v Speaker 2>a full round fifty three to forty and Bucky Irving

1627
01:18:00.079 --> 01:18:02.239
<v Speaker 2>fifty four to forty one. So a couple names we

1628
01:18:02.279 --> 01:18:03.800
<v Speaker 2>hadn't talked about. A couple of names we have talked

1629
01:18:03.800 --> 01:18:06.640
<v Speaker 2>about five running backs significant running backs because these are

1630
01:18:06.680 --> 01:18:10.239
<v Speaker 2>all safely RB twos. So it is like half of

1631
01:18:10.279 --> 01:18:13.600
<v Speaker 2>the RB twos are more expensive on ESPN than really

1632
01:18:13.600 --> 01:18:14.279
<v Speaker 2>any other place.

1633
01:18:14.720 --> 01:18:18.520
<v Speaker 1>Really strange too, that it's a chunk of rbs and

1634
01:18:18.560 --> 01:18:21.039
<v Speaker 1>a chunk of wide receivers and then a chunk of qbs.

1635
01:18:21.319 --> 01:18:23.640
<v Speaker 1>That is what I was more talking about in no

1636
01:18:23.760 --> 01:18:26.039
<v Speaker 1>rhyme or reason, and it goes beyond this. We'll get

1637
01:18:26.039 --> 01:18:29.680
<v Speaker 1>to it in the minute, But yeah, these running backs, Like,

1638
01:18:29.760 --> 01:18:32.920
<v Speaker 1>for what reason are these guys? What is the similarity

1639
01:18:32.960 --> 01:18:36.279
<v Speaker 1>between these guys that makes them around more expensive?

1640
01:18:36.640 --> 01:18:38.520
<v Speaker 2>You know, it's really interesting. I was about to say, Oh,

1641
01:18:38.560 --> 01:18:41.720
<v Speaker 2>maybe it's like a touchdown no reception.

1642
01:18:41.399 --> 01:18:42.840
<v Speaker 1>Versus four of them catch passes.

1643
01:18:42.960 --> 01:18:44.520
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but that it didn't make sense. I think it's

1644
01:18:44.600 --> 01:18:46.760
<v Speaker 2>it Breece Hall Judkins are sitting next to each other,

1645
01:18:46.800 --> 01:18:48.960
<v Speaker 2>and Judkins doesn't catch passes, and all Breeze Hall does

1646
01:18:49.079 --> 01:18:52.319
<v Speaker 2>is catch passes. So yeah, I'm not sure what the outside.

1647
01:18:51.760 --> 01:18:54.520
<v Speaker 1>Of just I'd say love Jacob's, Hall and Bucky all

1648
01:18:54.560 --> 01:18:56.239
<v Speaker 1>catch passes, I know, but.

1649
01:18:56.279 --> 01:18:59.079
<v Speaker 2>I'm saying, like, I can't say, it's what are they

1650
01:18:59.119 --> 01:19:02.119
<v Speaker 2>all catch passes? Don't because Judkins at Hall are literally

1651
01:19:02.199 --> 01:19:04.359
<v Speaker 2>the representation of the opposite of each other, which is

1652
01:19:04.399 --> 01:19:07.920
<v Speaker 2>so stupid. It just got to be built around their projections,

1653
01:19:08.000 --> 01:19:09.640
<v Speaker 2>you know, And I don't know what that is. Maybe

1654
01:19:09.640 --> 01:19:12.479
<v Speaker 2>it can be Judkins doesn't catch passes, Brice Hall's in

1655
01:19:12.520 --> 01:19:15.359
<v Speaker 2>a three back system, Bucky Irving was hurt, Josh Jacobs

1656
01:19:15.640 --> 01:19:19.399
<v Speaker 2>had the potential suspension and whatever. But they're all high.

1657
01:19:19.560 --> 01:19:21.600
<v Speaker 2>That would be the opposite, but put them back, so

1658
01:19:21.640 --> 01:19:23.800
<v Speaker 2>you don't know the hell it is either. So that's weird.

1659
01:19:23.920 --> 01:19:27.199
<v Speaker 2>The wide receivers you mentioned, Yeah, there's a couple of rookies,

1660
01:19:27.199 --> 01:19:29.399
<v Speaker 2>and then there's like what you got, Carnel Tate, who

1661
01:19:29.439 --> 01:19:32.880
<v Speaker 2>is twenty picks higher than ECR on ESPN, Courtland Sutton,

1662
01:19:33.039 --> 01:19:36.960
<v Speaker 2>Michael Pittman, then Jordan Tyson, Matthew Golden, and Jacoby Myers.

1663
01:19:37.039 --> 01:19:39.279
<v Speaker 2>I'll also just throw in mckaye leman of course again,

1664
01:19:39.359 --> 01:19:43.680
<v Speaker 2>and then Travis Hunter shows up seventy picks higher inside

1665
01:19:43.680 --> 01:19:45.920
<v Speaker 2>the top one hundred on ESPN. So that is a

1666
01:19:46.000 --> 01:19:49.720
<v Speaker 2>really weird grouping of wide receivers that for better for worse.

1667
01:19:49.840 --> 01:19:52.159
<v Speaker 2>If a few of them are your targets, ESPN's going

1668
01:19:52.239 --> 01:19:53.640
<v Speaker 2>to kind of screw you a little bit with how

1669
01:19:53.720 --> 01:19:55.199
<v Speaker 2>higher they go, and you're just gonna have to put

1670
01:19:55.239 --> 01:19:57.640
<v Speaker 2>them on notice. You know, Cortland Sutton might not mean

1671
01:19:57.680 --> 01:20:00.000
<v Speaker 2>anything to you, but if you're like excited to get

1672
01:20:00.039 --> 01:20:03.359
<v Speaker 2>at Jordan Tyson, okay, well he's almost twenty spots higher

1673
01:20:03.399 --> 01:20:05.159
<v Speaker 2>from an overall than what ECR is.

1674
01:20:05.800 --> 01:20:10.319
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and I don't think there's many more interesting expensive

1675
01:20:10.319 --> 01:20:12.760
<v Speaker 1>players for ESPN, So I just kind of want to

1676
01:20:12.800 --> 01:20:15.880
<v Speaker 1>make my point real quick. Well, scroll down to uh

1677
01:20:16.119 --> 01:20:19.880
<v Speaker 1>just the regular deals. And look, there's a lot of

1678
01:20:20.000 --> 01:20:23.199
<v Speaker 1>running backs and wide receivers. Yeah, in here, it's.

1679
01:20:23.039 --> 01:20:29.279
<v Speaker 2>A means is they're just they're less than around exactly,

1680
01:20:29.319 --> 01:20:30.359
<v Speaker 2>but not a full round.

1681
01:20:30.560 --> 01:20:35.199
<v Speaker 1>So but but it's a rainbow flop almost of each

1682
01:20:35.239 --> 01:20:37.600
<v Speaker 1>type of player. And then you go down and you

1683
01:20:37.640 --> 01:20:40.640
<v Speaker 1>look at which ones are more expensive. It's more running

1684
01:20:40.680 --> 01:20:43.479
<v Speaker 1>backs are more expensive like every side, but there's tons

1685
01:20:43.560 --> 01:20:46.239
<v Speaker 1>of wide receivers in here as well. So it's just

1686
01:20:46.600 --> 01:20:49.199
<v Speaker 1>different in the ESPN where you can see the clear

1687
01:20:49.279 --> 01:20:53.720
<v Speaker 1>delineation in Sleeper and Yahoo where running backs are just

1688
01:20:53.840 --> 01:20:58.520
<v Speaker 1>more expensive comparative to ECR and comparative to ESPN on

1689
01:20:58.600 --> 01:21:03.199
<v Speaker 1>those sites, you know, And in ESPN it's like it's

1690
01:21:03.279 --> 01:21:05.960
<v Speaker 1>kind of just no real rhyme or reason. It's some

1691
01:21:06.039 --> 01:21:10.119
<v Speaker 1>wide receivers are cheaper, some running backs are cheaper in

1692
01:21:10.399 --> 01:21:15.279
<v Speaker 1>half and half. So ESPN is more way, still way

1693
01:21:15.319 --> 01:21:18.279
<v Speaker 1>more of the Wild West within their rankings than the

1694
01:21:18.319 --> 01:21:22.000
<v Speaker 1>other sites are. And that's noted by Jeremiah Love being

1695
01:21:22.039 --> 01:21:24.520
<v Speaker 1>the biggest ripoff and Tucker Craft being the biggest deal

1696
01:21:24.720 --> 01:21:26.760
<v Speaker 1>of all of the ones that we'll talk about today.

1697
01:21:27.000 --> 01:21:28.960
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and I think that's a good way to end

1698
01:21:28.960 --> 01:21:32.600
<v Speaker 2>it here. Lots of different stuff from the granular sleeper, Yahoo,

1699
01:21:32.840 --> 01:21:35.520
<v Speaker 2>ESPN to the overall of looking at all the sites

1700
01:21:36.000 --> 01:21:38.359
<v Speaker 2>versus ECR for you know, again, for better for worse.

1701
01:21:38.399 --> 01:21:41.640
<v Speaker 2>However you view consensus ranks, it may not mean anything

1702
01:21:41.640 --> 01:21:43.560
<v Speaker 2>to you, but you know again, what school about this

1703
01:21:43.600 --> 01:21:47.279
<v Speaker 2>sheet is that overall value sheet will tell you the

1704
01:21:47.319 --> 01:21:49.840
<v Speaker 2>story where you might not necessarily care about ECR, but

1705
01:21:49.840 --> 01:21:52.239
<v Speaker 2>you will start to see like, oh hey, look Zay

1706
01:21:52.319 --> 01:21:56.760
<v Speaker 2>Flowers on Sleeper is the biggest deal Romandre Stevenson ESPN

1707
01:21:57.199 --> 01:22:00.760
<v Speaker 2>biggest deal? Or brace Hall. Guess that's what the most

1708
01:22:00.800 --> 01:22:04.319
<v Speaker 2>expensive site ESPN over any not just ECR, but versus

1709
01:22:04.359 --> 01:22:06.720
<v Speaker 2>any other sites. You can see them versus all the

1710
01:22:06.760 --> 01:22:09.119
<v Speaker 2>sites versus ECR, and you know, you can kind of

1711
01:22:09.119 --> 01:22:12.279
<v Speaker 2>rehash it in the conversation. So that's ranks analysis that

1712
01:22:12.319 --> 01:22:14.800
<v Speaker 2>gives you kind of an overarching view of what you're

1713
01:22:14.800 --> 01:22:17.159
<v Speaker 2>going to be in store for for those sites. I

1714
01:22:17.159 --> 01:22:19.560
<v Speaker 2>will also say, you know, you might not be someone

1715
01:22:19.560 --> 01:22:22.520
<v Speaker 2>that has ever necessarily cared about ECR and you don't

1716
01:22:22.560 --> 01:22:25.279
<v Speaker 2>pay attention to those things, so that's okay too. You

1717
01:22:25.319 --> 01:22:27.359
<v Speaker 2>can kind of bear through these sheets and it gives

1718
01:22:27.359 --> 01:22:29.560
<v Speaker 2>you an understanding of what your site is in we

1719
01:22:29.640 --> 01:22:32.520
<v Speaker 2>are people that a we work for Fantasy Pros. So

1720
01:22:32.560 --> 01:22:34.000
<v Speaker 2>ECR has been a part of our life. But guess

1721
01:22:34.039 --> 01:22:36.520
<v Speaker 2>what it was We did ECR and paid attention to

1722
01:22:36.560 --> 01:22:39.439
<v Speaker 2>ECR well before we ever did a lick of anything

1723
01:22:39.439 --> 01:22:42.640
<v Speaker 2>with Fantasy Pros. And we've also also played on a

1724
01:22:42.720 --> 01:22:45.000
<v Speaker 2>multitude of sites. We play on like fan tracks, which

1725
01:22:45.000 --> 01:22:48.159
<v Speaker 2>we didn't talk about in this episode. MFL. We used

1726
01:22:48.159 --> 01:22:50.319
<v Speaker 2>to play on Yahoo. I would tell you used to

1727
01:22:50.359 --> 01:22:52.479
<v Speaker 2>be always the dominant one. I think Sleeper's kind of

1728
01:22:52.479 --> 01:22:53.960
<v Speaker 2>taking that over and a lot of what we do,

1729
01:22:54.000 --> 01:22:57.520
<v Speaker 2>but we play the I think we do the well, No,

1730
01:22:57.640 --> 01:23:00.920
<v Speaker 2>the Pentathlon we do oaths on Yahoo. It is on Yahoo. Yah,

1731
01:23:00.920 --> 01:23:03.760
<v Speaker 2>So Pentathlon's on Yahoo. But like you know, flex League

1732
01:23:03.840 --> 01:23:06.039
<v Speaker 2>is on sleep or so like I end up and

1733
01:23:06.079 --> 01:23:08.720
<v Speaker 2>I think the Fantasy Pros ones we do on ESPN,

1734
01:23:08.800 --> 01:23:10.439
<v Speaker 2>I think or no, we did on Sleeper last year.

1735
01:23:10.439 --> 01:23:12.319
<v Speaker 2>But I end up having a league on like every

1736
01:23:12.359 --> 01:23:15.840
<v Speaker 2>single site. So I like to know the information about

1737
01:23:15.880 --> 01:23:19.079
<v Speaker 2>the sites, and I care about the expert consensus ranks

1738
01:23:19.119 --> 01:23:22.319
<v Speaker 2>from an understanding standpoint, that's a you could do a

1739
01:23:22.319 --> 01:23:25.920
<v Speaker 2>whole show on you know there. We've worked with people

1740
01:23:26.000 --> 01:23:28.560
<v Speaker 2>or done shows with people that wouldn't dare do a

1741
01:23:28.600 --> 01:23:31.399
<v Speaker 2>mock draft or care what anybody else says in the industry.

1742
01:23:31.520 --> 01:23:33.800
<v Speaker 2>I don't pay attention to what anybody else does, and

1743
01:23:33.840 --> 01:23:36.079
<v Speaker 2>that's you can do that. That's fine. I like to

1744
01:23:36.119 --> 01:23:38.720
<v Speaker 2>have an understanding of everything. I think it informs me

1745
01:23:38.880 --> 01:23:41.960
<v Speaker 2>better than just being a tunnel vision to only what

1746
01:23:42.039 --> 01:23:44.199
<v Speaker 2>I do. But that's me, that's it's Bogs. It's me

1747
01:23:44.239 --> 01:23:46.119
<v Speaker 2>and Bogs. That's how we kind of roll and for

1748
01:23:46.199 --> 01:23:47.720
<v Speaker 2>better for worse, that's what it is. So hopefully you

1749
01:23:47.720 --> 01:23:49.960
<v Speaker 2>guys enjoyed this episode. Go to end this League dot

1750
01:23:50.000 --> 01:23:52.880
<v Speaker 2>com if you want to check out the entire sheet.

1751
01:23:52.960 --> 01:23:55.039
<v Speaker 2>You can also check out the ranks. Bogmin's doing his

1752
01:23:55.039 --> 01:23:57.680
<v Speaker 2>fresh coat. I will have my redraft half PPR ranks

1753
01:23:57.760 --> 01:23:59.760
<v Speaker 2>up so you can check all that out. And you're

1754
01:24:00.039 --> 01:24:02.640
<v Speaker 2>warding us, and boy, we love you. You're just the best.

1755
01:24:02.680 --> 01:24:04.079
<v Speaker 2>You're the greatest, and you can be a part of

1756
01:24:04.079 --> 01:24:07.239
<v Speaker 2>mock drafts that we're doing and everything else. We're like,

1757
01:24:07.720 --> 01:24:09.600
<v Speaker 2>it's crazy how much we've been doing with football. But

1758
01:24:09.680 --> 01:24:11.840
<v Speaker 2>we're literally about to step into the gauntlet and that

1759
01:24:12.039 --> 01:24:15.439
<v Speaker 2>is what August is and for us, that is ranks.

1760
01:24:15.640 --> 01:24:18.520
<v Speaker 2>We don't do hell week anymore, but we're dedicating each

1761
01:24:18.600 --> 01:24:22.000
<v Speaker 2>week to hyper focused ranks. So this coming week we

1762
01:24:22.039 --> 01:24:25.039
<v Speaker 2>are going to be doing our running back ranks, which

1763
01:24:25.079 --> 01:24:28.119
<v Speaker 2>is two episodes. We've got the top end running back,

1764
01:24:28.199 --> 01:24:30.319
<v Speaker 2>so your top two round rbs, and then it's going

1765
01:24:30.399 --> 01:24:32.079
<v Speaker 2>to be your deeper rbs that is going to be

1766
01:24:32.119 --> 01:24:35.920
<v Speaker 2>interjected in with our ranks and the projections that are

1767
01:24:35.960 --> 01:24:38.079
<v Speaker 2>out there, and we're going to have discussions. The following

1768
01:24:38.079 --> 01:24:41.640
<v Speaker 2>week that's wide receivers and you know, high end wide receivers,

1769
01:24:41.680 --> 01:24:43.560
<v Speaker 2>and then the middle and wide receivers. And then the

1770
01:24:43.600 --> 01:24:46.000
<v Speaker 2>final week, which hopefully is going to be before your drafts,

1771
01:24:46.000 --> 01:24:47.880
<v Speaker 2>we'll be quarterbacking tight end. That's what we'll be able

1772
01:24:47.920 --> 01:24:49.399
<v Speaker 2>to finish out. So a little bit of a different

1773
01:24:49.439 --> 01:24:52.359
<v Speaker 2>take on how we do those. Maybe we'll even interject

1774
01:24:52.399 --> 01:24:54.039
<v Speaker 2>a mock draft in there to get a little bit

1775
01:24:54.079 --> 01:24:56.560
<v Speaker 2>extra for you, because now they realize it, we don't

1776
01:24:56.600 --> 01:24:58.399
<v Speaker 2>want to quite go three weeks without a mock draft,

1777
01:24:58.399 --> 01:25:00.479
<v Speaker 2>So maybe we'll even get a little little little extra

1778
01:25:00.560 --> 01:25:02.399
<v Speaker 2>for you because we love y'all. But make sure you're

1779
01:25:02.399 --> 01:25:04.640
<v Speaker 2>subscribe to the podcast check out all the stuff and

1780
01:25:04.680 --> 01:25:06.640
<v Speaker 2>things you can find us on Fantasy Pros as well.

1781
01:25:06.760 --> 01:25:09.079
<v Speaker 2>Is it the Welsh bogmin Sports on Twitter, bogin great

1782
01:25:09.159 --> 01:25:10.560
<v Speaker 2>job on the sheet. I know you got to be

1783
01:25:11.279 --> 01:25:13.319
<v Speaker 2>so damn high happy that the thing is done though.

1784
01:25:13.479 --> 01:25:15.760
<v Speaker 1>Yeah yeah this one, you know what. I feel like

1785
01:25:15.800 --> 01:25:18.319
<v Speaker 1>it has gotten easier over the last couple of years,

1786
01:25:18.319 --> 01:25:24.079
<v Speaker 1>but it's still I mean, it's it's too for the lot's.

1787
01:25:22.359 --> 01:25:23.720
<v Speaker 2>A lot of work. Well, you did a great job.

1788
01:25:23.760 --> 01:25:26.079
<v Speaker 2>Hopefully you guys go check it out. Thank you friends,

1789
01:25:26.199 --> 01:25:27.600
<v Speaker 2>Love you. We'll talk to you next time right here

1790
01:25:27.600 --> 01:25:30.000
<v Speaker 2>and end this league at peace out on