WEBVTT 1 00:00:01.800 --> 00:00:05.160 The following presentation is Del Marvis Studios. 2 00:00:04.759 --> 00:00:19.600 Production a SI spined thrust Sky, but I see no 3 00:00:19.960 --> 00:00:24.160 curves go by the sun and boom came right. 4 00:00:24.160 --> 00:00:30.320 And high love the last just moltiply. This is the 5 00:00:30.320 --> 00:00:36.439 flatter file True Frostain for Science Sleeves says SA grabs 6 00:00:36.520 --> 00:00:41.320 cream six thousand Yes, got true, the lies the Steatus 7 00:00:41.439 --> 00:00:46.960 dances the tone Time. This is the flatter Files True 8 00:00:47.119 --> 00:00:52.759 from Stave with Science sleeps says Secrets Crepe six thousand 9 00:00:52.960 --> 00:00:57.399 years got true, the lies, the Status dances the tone 10 00:00:57.520 --> 00:00:58.200 of Sun. 11 00:00:58.079 --> 00:01:06.120 Time and welcome back, ladies and gentlemen. Today's guest is 12 00:01:06.519 --> 00:01:09.680 from the great state of Illinois. Her name is Ursula, 13 00:01:09.879 --> 00:01:12.840 and we just had a great pre show conversation. I'm 14 00:01:12.840 --> 00:01:14.920 excited to bring her on the show and introduce her 15 00:01:15.400 --> 00:01:18.159 to the audience. Ladies and gentlemen. Ursula, how are you 16 00:01:18.239 --> 00:01:18.760 doing tonight? 17 00:01:19.519 --> 00:01:21.840 I'm great. Thank you, George, thanks again for having me on. 18 00:01:21.959 --> 00:01:23.359 I can't tell you how excited I am. 19 00:01:23.760 --> 00:01:25.719 It's a pleasure to have you, and I'm excited for 20 00:01:25.799 --> 00:01:28.239 you to share your journey and what you're doing in 21 00:01:28.359 --> 00:01:30.879 the podcast world as well. But before we get into 22 00:01:30.959 --> 00:01:33.920 all of that, please take a few moments and introduce 23 00:01:33.959 --> 00:01:34.920 yourself to the audience. 24 00:01:35.799 --> 00:01:38.439 Of course, I am a mother of three. I have 25 00:01:38.560 --> 00:01:40.959 a son and two daughters. My husband and I have 26 00:01:41.040 --> 00:01:43.719 been do you hear that beep? I'm so sorry. I 27 00:01:43.799 --> 00:01:45.760 have like a beep in the back. But if you 28 00:01:45.799 --> 00:01:47.920 hear it, I will try to disable. It's like a 29 00:01:48.359 --> 00:01:48.920 fire alarm. 30 00:01:49.000 --> 00:01:49.560 That's good shit. 31 00:01:49.640 --> 00:01:54.000 But my husband and I have been together for sixteen years. 32 00:01:55.159 --> 00:01:57.680 But I think the thing that I want most to 33 00:01:57.760 --> 00:02:00.079 share about myself is that I'm a passionate disciple of 34 00:02:00.159 --> 00:02:04.400 Jesus Christ. And I wasn't always that way. Actually, when 35 00:02:04.480 --> 00:02:09.680 I was about twenty seven years old, I was in 36 00:02:09.800 --> 00:02:13.560 a serious relationship with a Muslim and we were together 37 00:02:13.599 --> 00:02:16.439 for several years, and he wanted me to We were 38 00:02:16.479 --> 00:02:19.319 talking about taking the next steps in our relationship and 39 00:02:19.479 --> 00:02:22.080 he wanted me to convert to Islam before I did that. 40 00:02:22.840 --> 00:02:25.120 And at the time, I was raised Catholic, but I 41 00:02:25.240 --> 00:02:28.000 was never really you know, built on the rock. I 42 00:02:28.120 --> 00:02:32.120 wasn't on the rock yet, and so I really took 43 00:02:32.159 --> 00:02:36.919 it seriously. I started reading the Koran. I read the Ahadiths, 44 00:02:36.960 --> 00:02:39.639 which is like the supplementary books to the Koran, and 45 00:02:40.120 --> 00:02:43.159 you know, George. I was even practicing like the Shahadah, 46 00:02:43.280 --> 00:02:46.680 which is the declaration that you make to become Muslim, 47 00:02:46.719 --> 00:02:48.520 and in the town, and I remember thinking like, I 48 00:02:48.639 --> 00:02:51.400 have to tell my family, like I remember reading the 49 00:02:51.479 --> 00:02:54.840 Koran and never feeling that type of fear because the 50 00:02:55.520 --> 00:02:58.840 hell described in Koran is even worse for people who 51 00:02:58.919 --> 00:03:02.800 were presented in Islam and decided to deny it. And 52 00:03:03.039 --> 00:03:05.360 so I just remember thinking, like, I have to convert 53 00:03:05.400 --> 00:03:09.599 everyone I know. And I went to bed one night 54 00:03:10.080 --> 00:03:14.240 and the Lord Jesus gave me a dream. In my dream, 55 00:03:14.280 --> 00:03:16.080 it was like a really dark room and in the 56 00:03:16.120 --> 00:03:19.199 middle of the room there was a hole, and intuitively 57 00:03:19.280 --> 00:03:21.800 I knew that I that it was hell and that 58 00:03:21.919 --> 00:03:25.639 I was going there. And the type of fear that 59 00:03:25.719 --> 00:03:28.439 I felt in this dream is something I have never 60 00:03:28.599 --> 00:03:34.080 before or since felt. It was the thickest, most, the 61 00:03:34.199 --> 00:03:37.479 deepest fear I've ever felt. And something was pushing me 62 00:03:37.560 --> 00:03:41.560 down this hole and eventually I fell through. And as 63 00:03:41.599 --> 00:03:43.759 I'm falling, I see my family around me and they're 64 00:03:43.800 --> 00:03:46.199 falling and they're dead and decomposing. And it didn't look 65 00:03:46.479 --> 00:03:49.360 it didn't look comical, it didn't look like walking dead type. 66 00:03:49.400 --> 00:03:51.800 It looked real, and it smelled and I had and 67 00:03:51.879 --> 00:03:54.240 there was a stench. And as soon as I hit 68 00:03:54.319 --> 00:03:58.280 the ground, I shot up in bed and I was 69 00:03:58.520 --> 00:04:02.240 drenched in sweat and tears, and my heart was beating 70 00:04:02.280 --> 00:04:04.800 out of my chest, and I heard God say to 71 00:04:04.919 --> 00:04:08.199 me in my spirit, this is what will happen if 72 00:04:08.240 --> 00:04:12.280 you continue down this path. So I ended up ending 73 00:04:12.400 --> 00:04:16.959 that engagement that morning, but probably entered the darkest chapter 74 00:04:17.079 --> 00:04:19.680 of my life at that time because I knew that 75 00:04:19.879 --> 00:04:22.680 God was not the God of Islam. I just didn't 76 00:04:22.759 --> 00:04:28.480 know who God was. And I started studying, and you know, 77 00:04:28.800 --> 00:04:31.319 I kind of committed to learning about every religion because 78 00:04:31.360 --> 00:04:35.120 I was just so determined to find the truth. And 79 00:04:36.040 --> 00:04:38.240 I heard somebody once say like, if you are on 80 00:04:38.439 --> 00:04:42.120 the search for truth, you will inevitably end up at Jesus. 81 00:04:42.279 --> 00:04:44.600 And that's where I ended up at. And it was 82 00:04:44.800 --> 00:04:49.160 actually the study of apologetics that really got me passionate 83 00:04:49.240 --> 00:04:50.439 about about Jesus. 84 00:04:51.079 --> 00:04:54.959 You know, it's interesting people say that miracles don't happen anymore, 85 00:04:55.040 --> 00:04:58.759 but you kind of just described, you know, God presenting 86 00:04:58.959 --> 00:05:01.839 something to you in your dream and understanding that it 87 00:05:02.040 --> 00:05:06.319 just wasn't a dream dream, it was a warning and 88 00:05:06.439 --> 00:05:08.800 that is something that I've been passionate about lately as well, 89 00:05:08.959 --> 00:05:12.720 is trying to explain how repentance work. That it's not 90 00:05:12.879 --> 00:05:17.160 reciting a sinner's prayer, it's understanding repentance and having a 91 00:05:17.519 --> 00:05:21.680 contrition and being remorseful and trying and trying the key 92 00:05:21.720 --> 00:05:25.040 word here, because we're all flawed and we're all going 93 00:05:25.120 --> 00:05:28.160 to fall again, but through the grace of God, we're saved. 94 00:05:28.360 --> 00:05:32.680 But you know, it's just it blows my mind that 95 00:05:32.759 --> 00:05:35.079 people think that these things don't happen. And as you're 96 00:05:35.079 --> 00:05:39.680 sitting here describing your dream, it's almost like something that 97 00:05:39.879 --> 00:05:42.040 you would read in the Bible, these stories. And that's 98 00:05:42.079 --> 00:05:44.959 why I try to tell people, is God is talking 99 00:05:45.079 --> 00:05:48.079 to you, right. It's just a matter of I think 100 00:05:48.240 --> 00:05:51.360 we have selective listening. I think they call it. If 101 00:05:51.399 --> 00:05:55.240 it's going to maybe make us turn away from things 102 00:05:55.319 --> 00:05:58.480 we enjoy in the worldly life we live, then maybe 103 00:05:58.560 --> 00:05:59.439 we don't want to listen. 104 00:06:00.519 --> 00:06:03.920 I also had a follow up miracle that occurred about 105 00:06:04.079 --> 00:06:11.160 a few weeks after we I ended our relationship. I 106 00:06:12.360 --> 00:06:15.920 I remember I was he had called me and he 107 00:06:16.000 --> 00:06:18.839 wanted me to see a Catholic. He there was a 108 00:06:18.920 --> 00:06:21.160 speaker coming to his school, and it was a Catholic 109 00:06:21.240 --> 00:06:23.920 priest that had converted to Islam, and so he said, 110 00:06:23.959 --> 00:06:26.639 you know, I want you to come see this this speaker. 111 00:06:26.720 --> 00:06:29.199 He might clear some things up for you. And so 112 00:06:30.000 --> 00:06:32.680 I didn't want to go. Every every fiber of my 113 00:06:32.800 --> 00:06:35.279 being was screaming no. But I couldn't think of a 114 00:06:35.360 --> 00:06:37.959 lie on the spot. I just I said yes. And 115 00:06:38.639 --> 00:06:41.720 leading up to that, to seeing the speaker, I was, 116 00:06:41.959 --> 00:06:45.120 I was a wreck, like just truly, just you know, 117 00:06:45.839 --> 00:06:47.600 like I said, the darkest time in my life. And 118 00:06:48.600 --> 00:06:50.279 so he picked me up and on the way there, 119 00:06:51.720 --> 00:06:54.040 I had I was. I had started wearing a ring 120 00:06:54.240 --> 00:06:56.560 in place of the ring he had given me. It 121 00:06:56.680 --> 00:06:58.199 was a ring, It was a ring with a cross 122 00:06:58.279 --> 00:07:00.639 on it. It was from my grandma. But I remember 123 00:07:01.120 --> 00:07:04.439 need like putting it on because you know, like you're married, 124 00:07:04.560 --> 00:07:06.079 and if you take your ring off, you're always like, 125 00:07:06.680 --> 00:07:07.360 you know, where's my ring? 126 00:07:07.399 --> 00:07:07.959 Where's the ring? 127 00:07:08.720 --> 00:07:12.399 So I did. Every time I didn't feel my ring on, 128 00:07:13.160 --> 00:07:15.720 I was reminded of the painful breakup. So I put 129 00:07:15.759 --> 00:07:18.360 that ring on in its place, and I remember I 130 00:07:18.560 --> 00:07:22.439 was twirling it in my fingers and holding onto it, 131 00:07:22.560 --> 00:07:25.519 and I was so deeply praying, you know, and and 132 00:07:25.680 --> 00:07:27.839 the Holy Spirit and the Bible tells us that in 133 00:07:27.920 --> 00:07:30.720 your deepest groans, like he hears you, he's with you. 134 00:07:31.399 --> 00:07:32.000 And I was. 135 00:07:32.360 --> 00:07:34.519 I didn't know I was praying then, you know, to 136 00:07:34.720 --> 00:07:36.560 what God? But I was praying, and I said, God, 137 00:07:36.800 --> 00:07:39.399 you know, if this is wrong, like if it's wrong 138 00:07:39.480 --> 00:07:41.000 for me to be here, if it's wrong for me 139 00:07:41.079 --> 00:07:44.120 to consider Islam, I need you to make this ring 140 00:07:44.279 --> 00:07:47.879 feel cold. And like I needed God to break through 141 00:07:47.959 --> 00:07:51.279 the spiritual into the physical. I needed some proof and 142 00:07:51.480 --> 00:07:55.360 I was just so lost. And I remember, not even 143 00:07:55.439 --> 00:08:00.199 a second after I said amen, my ex, who's car 144 00:08:00.519 --> 00:08:05.600 was his baby, drove into this giant pothole and it 145 00:08:05.720 --> 00:08:09.319 was January and it was freezing outside, and so we 146 00:08:09.560 --> 00:08:11.720 ended up he needed to change his tire and I 147 00:08:12.439 --> 00:08:15.399 was outside with you know, no gloves and just app 148 00:08:15.519 --> 00:08:19.680 My hands absolutely froze, and you know, I think about it, 149 00:08:20.000 --> 00:08:21.879 but I'm like, you know, you know, how it's something 150 00:08:22.000 --> 00:08:24.639 there's something in the middle of the road. Cars usually 151 00:08:24.800 --> 00:08:27.160 swerve around it or whatever. There was none of that. 152 00:08:27.319 --> 00:08:30.120 There were plenty of cars out that night, but nobody swerved. 153 00:08:30.399 --> 00:08:33.559 It was like it came out of nowhere. And I 154 00:08:33.679 --> 00:08:36.720 think at that time, I just needed that I had 155 00:08:36.759 --> 00:08:39.120 that reassurance. I needed to know, like, Okay, now I 156 00:08:39.200 --> 00:08:41.720 know for a fact that is not the God of Islam, 157 00:08:41.799 --> 00:08:44.480 but I was just so desperate to find who he was. 158 00:08:46.360 --> 00:08:48.919 That's so interesting because there's many stories in the Bible. 159 00:08:48.960 --> 00:08:51.679 I think Gideon, one of the judges, had the same type. 160 00:08:51.720 --> 00:08:54.639 He left his wool out overnight. Oh right, yeah, and 161 00:08:54.679 --> 00:08:57.720 then he went back, are you sure? And sure enough? Yes, stay. 162 00:08:58.759 --> 00:09:03.200 It's interesting how that everybody needs that validation and if 163 00:09:03.240 --> 00:09:08.120 we listen, he provides it. And obviously that really altered 164 00:09:08.159 --> 00:09:09.080 the course of your life. 165 00:09:09.960 --> 00:09:13.399 Absolutely, and I'm so glad. I'm so I am so 166 00:09:13.639 --> 00:09:16.200 thankful that Jesus took the scales off of my eyes. 167 00:09:17.200 --> 00:09:20.759 So you're coming from a background. You grow up, were 168 00:09:20.799 --> 00:09:23.919 you Methodists? You said you were Catholic, right, Catholic and 169 00:09:24.000 --> 00:09:27.200 then Muslim and now you know, looking back at your 170 00:09:27.240 --> 00:09:31.840 emails and everything, you're, for lack of a better words, 171 00:09:31.879 --> 00:09:34.720 of a follower of Christ through Protestant. 172 00:09:34.799 --> 00:09:38.840 I guess, yeah, more like I guess I don't even 173 00:09:38.879 --> 00:09:44.279 really identify. It's just more, you know, like I Jesus said, 174 00:09:44.320 --> 00:09:47.320 I am the way I am the life and then 175 00:09:47.519 --> 00:09:49.639 in John we find out the Word became flesh and 176 00:09:49.679 --> 00:09:51.759 dwell among us. So the Word is the truth. So 177 00:09:51.879 --> 00:09:54.720 the Bible is the source of truth for our lives. 178 00:09:54.840 --> 00:09:57.279 Yeah, and that's something I've been struggling because to me 179 00:09:57.440 --> 00:09:59.759 that and again, the word Christian does mean follower of 180 00:10:01.039 --> 00:10:03.559 But when you say that, now, when you look around 181 00:10:03.720 --> 00:10:08.279 at the state of many churches today, it's like that's 182 00:10:08.320 --> 00:10:10.600 when we were coming up for a term for our church. 183 00:10:10.840 --> 00:10:13.559 You know, we call it New Disciple fellowship. And that's 184 00:10:13.639 --> 00:10:16.120 what we do, is we you know, preach the Gospel 185 00:10:16.200 --> 00:10:19.840 and we make disciples. It's you know, you can go 186 00:10:19.919 --> 00:10:22.039 out there by yourself and try to save the World war. 187 00:10:22.159 --> 00:10:24.320 You can make fishers of men, who make fishers of men, 188 00:10:24.399 --> 00:10:26.559 who make fishers of men, and that's really how you win. 189 00:10:27.480 --> 00:10:27.799 Amen. 190 00:10:28.279 --> 00:10:31.200 Yeah, So tell us your journey to where you are today. 191 00:10:31.240 --> 00:10:32.919 How did you go from that to where you are today? 192 00:10:34.240 --> 00:10:39.080 Yeah. So I became obsessed with everything you know, Jesus 193 00:10:39.200 --> 00:10:42.840 related just over the course of my life and you know, 194 00:10:43.120 --> 00:10:45.320 as abers, since I was twenty seven, and then it 195 00:10:45.440 --> 00:10:49.279 kind of led me down this path of you know, 196 00:10:49.360 --> 00:10:51.559 once I started to realize the Bible is a source 197 00:10:51.639 --> 00:10:54.480 of truth. That's where everything kind of changed for me. 198 00:10:54.559 --> 00:10:57.679 And I was listening to a podcast one day and 199 00:10:57.840 --> 00:11:01.120 it was somebody had a near death experience and and 200 00:11:01.200 --> 00:11:02.759 I do believe that those are you know, you have 201 00:11:02.799 --> 00:11:05.240 to use discernment, but even Paul in the New Testament 202 00:11:05.279 --> 00:11:08.159 had a near death experience. And so I was listening, 203 00:11:08.279 --> 00:11:11.159 and everything in my spirit was telling me, this guy 204 00:11:11.399 --> 00:11:14.440 is telling the truth everything. And but later on in 205 00:11:14.519 --> 00:11:20.559 the conversation he said something about flat earth, and instantly, 206 00:11:20.720 --> 00:11:23.759 like I was, I was like almost mad at the 207 00:11:23.879 --> 00:11:26.960 spirit in that moment, like I thought, you told me 208 00:11:27.519 --> 00:11:30.879 this is genuine, you know, I was like upset, and 209 00:11:31.039 --> 00:11:35.000 I remember just instantly kind of discrediting this this man. 210 00:11:35.919 --> 00:11:39.320 But then he said something about rainbows. And that was 211 00:11:39.399 --> 00:11:41.200 like the question mark that he put in my head 212 00:11:41.240 --> 00:11:43.960 because I'm like, okay, listen, I know the Earth is round, 213 00:11:44.080 --> 00:11:47.679 but I know how light refraction works, and so why 214 00:11:47.879 --> 00:11:52.159 doesn't why is the rainbow round? And or you know, arched? 215 00:11:52.639 --> 00:11:55.519 And as soon as I started to look into it, 216 00:11:56.159 --> 00:11:58.759 I mean, gosh, it was like Jesus truly took the 217 00:11:58.840 --> 00:12:01.799 scales off of my eyes instantly, you know when they say, 218 00:12:01.879 --> 00:12:03.639 you know, when Jesus says, you know, you have to 219 00:12:03.720 --> 00:12:07.360 accept the Kingdom of God like a child. That is 220 00:12:07.559 --> 00:12:11.440 what I think he has. You know that if you 221 00:12:11.600 --> 00:12:14.480 can do that is a blessing because then you're. 222 00:12:14.360 --> 00:12:18.000 Open minded, yes, because you haven't been Your mind hasn't 223 00:12:18.000 --> 00:12:21.399 been propagandized yet, with the exception of you know, the 224 00:12:21.440 --> 00:12:22.440 guy in the red suit. 225 00:12:23.440 --> 00:12:26.120 Right right, but it can't. But you know what if 226 00:12:26.159 --> 00:12:28.440 you if you can realize, like if you can accept 227 00:12:28.480 --> 00:12:30.559 the Kingdom of God as a child, and you can 228 00:12:30.679 --> 00:12:32.879 realize that you know, his ways are higher than I was, 229 00:12:32.960 --> 00:12:35.159 his thoughts are higher than earth, and it makes it 230 00:12:35.320 --> 00:12:40.120 more believable. But also I feel like when I started, 231 00:12:40.360 --> 00:12:42.519 you know, when I started to go down the rabbit 232 00:12:42.559 --> 00:12:44.639 hole of I like to call it true Earth, you know, 233 00:12:44.759 --> 00:12:46.639 I feel like flat Earth has like the connotation of 234 00:12:46.679 --> 00:12:49.000 anti vacs, where it's like it's not anti vax, it's 235 00:12:49.000 --> 00:12:53.240 like pro health. So true Earth. Once you go down 236 00:12:53.320 --> 00:12:57.519 the rabbit hole, you realize your eyes line up with 237 00:12:57.759 --> 00:13:00.440 what the Bible tells you, not what science tells you, 238 00:13:02.960 --> 00:13:05.120 you know, And that's where I was really like, Okay, 239 00:13:05.320 --> 00:13:08.320 I get it, like the star like, for example, the stars. 240 00:13:08.480 --> 00:13:12.320 So NASA says that we are spinning on an axis 241 00:13:12.399 --> 00:13:16.279 at one thousand miles an hour, but also ironically orbiting 242 00:13:16.279 --> 00:13:19.000 the Sun at six sixty six thousand, six hundred miles 243 00:13:19.000 --> 00:13:21.960 an hour. So I you know, and Satan flashes things 244 00:13:22.000 --> 00:13:25.679 in our face the six sixty six yep. But then 245 00:13:25.759 --> 00:13:28.120 why why do we have the same twelve zodiac science 246 00:13:28.120 --> 00:13:31.200 that we've had for all of time? And why if 247 00:13:31.240 --> 00:13:34.720 you look at the lens of the night sky, it's 248 00:13:34.879 --> 00:13:41.000 obvious that it's circling us. It's not the motion of 249 00:13:41.399 --> 00:13:43.840 an Earth that is spinning on its axis and also 250 00:13:44.000 --> 00:13:46.519 orbiting the Sun at sixty six thousand, six hundred miles 251 00:13:46.519 --> 00:13:48.279 an hour. You know, I started realizing, I'm like, this 252 00:13:48.399 --> 00:13:51.000 is when you when you put your eyes to the test, 253 00:13:51.320 --> 00:13:53.919 you can't possibly believe what science is telling you. 254 00:13:55.120 --> 00:13:58.519 Yeah, thousand percent. And that is such a good analogy 255 00:13:58.639 --> 00:14:00.600 going back to you know, have in the eyes of 256 00:14:00.639 --> 00:14:03.240 a child, and really we see the world for what 257 00:14:03.360 --> 00:14:06.120 it is, but then we're told how it's you know, 258 00:14:06.279 --> 00:14:08.039 this is no, no, no, it's not how you see it. 259 00:14:08.759 --> 00:14:11.440 This is how it really works. Oh okay, And that 260 00:14:11.600 --> 00:14:14.759 really sets the table for what we you know, for 261 00:14:14.799 --> 00:14:17.360 the next twelve years of our life through the education system. 262 00:14:17.399 --> 00:14:19.879 And again, this is not an attack on the teachers. 263 00:14:19.960 --> 00:14:22.679 It's an attack on the system that's been hijacked many, many, 264 00:14:22.759 --> 00:14:25.720 many many years ago. And these are the things that 265 00:14:25.799 --> 00:14:28.200 we're up against. Right. We talk about often one or 266 00:14:28.240 --> 00:14:30.000 two hours in church per week, and then they go 267 00:14:30.600 --> 00:14:33.759 to a public school system for thirty thirty five hours 268 00:14:33.799 --> 00:14:36.679 a week, and they dismiss the miracles of you know, 269 00:14:36.879 --> 00:14:41.480 Noah and Moses and Zachias and all these other stories 270 00:14:41.519 --> 00:14:45.000 that we read throughout the Bible, and the origin story 271 00:14:45.039 --> 00:14:47.120 of the world, the how the world was created, the 272 00:14:47.240 --> 00:14:49.480 firmament and all these things. Then they go to school 273 00:14:49.960 --> 00:14:51.840 and they're told, no, we're on a ball that's spinning. 274 00:14:52.080 --> 00:14:54.600 And even if you just listen how fast we're going, 275 00:14:55.279 --> 00:14:56.960 you know, just stick your heat out of a car 276 00:14:57.080 --> 00:15:01.080 when you're doing fifty five, and then that how fast 277 00:15:01.120 --> 00:15:04.159 we're spinning and moving, and that we wouldn't feel the wind. 278 00:15:04.240 --> 00:15:05.759 By the way, if you really want to learn how 279 00:15:05.840 --> 00:15:10.480 wind works, the Book of Enoch actually explains the four winds. 280 00:15:11.519 --> 00:15:13.600 Really, I actually my we were, my husband and I 281 00:15:13.600 --> 00:15:15.559 were just talking about it. I have the Book of 282 00:15:15.759 --> 00:15:18.679 Enoch and I've started reading it, but never really I've 283 00:15:18.720 --> 00:15:21.080 been so invested in reading my Bible the last few 284 00:15:21.159 --> 00:15:23.159 years that it's hard to like pick something else up. 285 00:15:23.240 --> 00:15:25.600 But yeah, it's on the list next. 286 00:15:25.919 --> 00:15:30.240 Yeah, it explains the four winds and you know, everything 287 00:15:30.480 --> 00:15:33.000 that we see, everything that we feel, even the things 288 00:15:33.080 --> 00:15:35.360 we can't see that we do feel, like the wind, 289 00:15:35.840 --> 00:15:36.799 that's all from God. 290 00:15:38.600 --> 00:15:41.080 I do, I do know. I mean every you know, 291 00:15:41.159 --> 00:15:42.960 every good thing comes from God. Right, So it's like 292 00:15:43.039 --> 00:15:45.080 every time I'm outside and I do feel that wind 293 00:15:45.159 --> 00:15:47.000 on my face, It's like, how could you not feel 294 00:15:47.000 --> 00:15:49.720 such a connection to your creator when you realize that 295 00:15:49.840 --> 00:15:52.759 where it all comes from, you know, everything, you know. 296 00:15:53.159 --> 00:15:56.120 That's why they have to have a scientific explanation for everything, 297 00:15:56.240 --> 00:15:59.320 because that takes away, that takes away from God. That's 298 00:15:59.360 --> 00:16:02.919 their mission is to trivialize and to minimize God. 299 00:16:04.000 --> 00:16:06.120 Yeah, and you know what, like look, you know, if 300 00:16:06.200 --> 00:16:08.879 he was Ephesians, that tells us, you know, our struggle 301 00:16:09.000 --> 00:16:11.320 is not against flesh, it's against the powers of the 302 00:16:11.440 --> 00:16:13.679 rule of the dark world. Like there is an agenda here. 303 00:16:13.840 --> 00:16:15.919 And that's I think why it's more important now than 304 00:16:15.960 --> 00:16:18.519 ever to believe in true Earth, because I think a 305 00:16:18.639 --> 00:16:21.279 lot of scholars are probably on the same page right now. 306 00:16:21.360 --> 00:16:25.080 That we're probably getting close to Jesus's return. Ye, And 307 00:16:25.399 --> 00:16:27.879 if you believe that which it's you should because it's 308 00:16:28.120 --> 00:16:30.000 it's the truth, it's in the it's in the word. 309 00:16:31.159 --> 00:16:33.399 Then you know that thing's going to try to do 310 00:16:33.519 --> 00:16:36.559 everything in his power to make you think that that 311 00:16:36.960 --> 00:16:39.919 that's not true, and that God is not the real God. 312 00:16:40.039 --> 00:16:42.919 And so you know what, I know a lot, you know, 313 00:16:43.200 --> 00:16:45.960 especially like in was it in it you will know 314 00:16:46.039 --> 00:16:49.759 better than me. But meeting Zachariah when he sees an 315 00:16:49.919 --> 00:16:52.399 in the end times, he sees like a flying scroll, 316 00:16:52.919 --> 00:16:55.440 which if you like measure the dimensions, it almost looks 317 00:16:55.480 --> 00:16:58.080 like it could be a ufo and and it very much, 318 00:16:58.399 --> 00:17:00.840 you know, that's how he would have described it, because 319 00:17:00.879 --> 00:17:03.600 he would have had no other basis of comparison. And 320 00:17:03.759 --> 00:17:06.079 so you think, you know, if Satan's going to you know, 321 00:17:06.160 --> 00:17:09.559 if you know that the earth is the true nature 322 00:17:09.640 --> 00:17:12.240 of our earth, then you know there will be no 323 00:17:12.519 --> 00:17:16.440 alien life. So then you have to give an explanation. 324 00:17:16.559 --> 00:17:18.880 Well then what is it? Well, it's a demon, you know, 325 00:17:19.039 --> 00:17:21.640 and it's gonna deceive you. What you know, is it 326 00:17:21.759 --> 00:17:25.960 the terror that is going to be so so great 327 00:17:26.039 --> 00:17:28.200 that men will instantly die of a heart attack, the 328 00:17:28.240 --> 00:17:30.400 Bible says, or instantly fall to their death because the 329 00:17:30.519 --> 00:17:32.839 terror will be so great. You know what else could 330 00:17:32.839 --> 00:17:36.200 it be, you know than something like extraterrestrial. But again 331 00:17:36.279 --> 00:17:38.480 it's if you know then true nature. You're not going 332 00:17:38.559 --> 00:17:40.160 to be deceived by that. 333 00:17:41.319 --> 00:17:43.279 You had heard the podcast, that was the first time 334 00:17:43.319 --> 00:17:48.880 you came upon of we'll call True Earth. Right, Was 335 00:17:48.920 --> 00:17:50.759 there a particular video or did you go straight to 336 00:17:50.839 --> 00:17:54.759 the Bible? How did your your whole thinking go when 337 00:17:54.799 --> 00:17:57.960 you found the subject and you first initially latched onto 338 00:17:58.599 --> 00:17:59.720 that you were a full believer of. 339 00:18:01.079 --> 00:18:03.599 It was honestly maybe a day later because I started 340 00:18:03.640 --> 00:18:06.039 researching the rainbow and I was like, okay, something here 341 00:18:06.279 --> 00:18:08.160 is I just need to explain this away, Like you know, 342 00:18:08.440 --> 00:18:10.960 apologetics worked for me because that's just how my mind works. 343 00:18:10.960 --> 00:18:12.440 It makes sense, like I have to see the facts. 344 00:18:12.640 --> 00:18:14.039 So I was like, I need to figure out why 345 00:18:14.160 --> 00:18:16.799 the rainbow was arched. But then I went down that 346 00:18:16.920 --> 00:18:20.480 rabbit hole and I came across the presentation of biblical cosmology, 347 00:18:20.559 --> 00:18:23.680 and it just broke it down and it's like two parts, 348 00:18:23.720 --> 00:18:26.000 Like it's not just the fact that you know the Bible, 349 00:18:26.000 --> 00:18:30.519 what the Bible says, because there's tons of versus you 350 00:18:30.599 --> 00:18:34.359 know that the Bible talks about. But it's also just 351 00:18:34.440 --> 00:18:37.920 the fact that that science is so deceiving, you know. 352 00:18:38.000 --> 00:18:39.960 And I always laugh when people are like, the Bible's 353 00:18:39.960 --> 00:18:42.160 not a science book. No, it's not, because science books 354 00:18:42.200 --> 00:18:45.160 are not real. And this is the truth. You know, 355 00:18:45.319 --> 00:18:47.640 it's not science, but it will tell you exactly how 356 00:18:47.720 --> 00:18:50.839 the Earth was formed, when the Earth was formed, you know, 357 00:18:50.920 --> 00:18:52.119 and everything else you need to know. 358 00:18:52.880 --> 00:18:55.279 Yeah, and I learned that lesson and it hit me. 359 00:18:55.799 --> 00:18:57.880 You know, when I first started going down the rabbit holes, 360 00:18:57.920 --> 00:19:00.599 I was going to websites, I was going to YouTube, 361 00:19:00.759 --> 00:19:03.359 I was going, you know, to buy books in the library, 362 00:19:03.480 --> 00:19:06.000 and then I was looking everywhere about the Bible, and 363 00:19:06.119 --> 00:19:09.480 I realized that, you know, the more you research, all 364 00:19:09.559 --> 00:19:13.599 of these rabbit holes connected, Yeah, you realize the greater plan. 365 00:19:13.720 --> 00:19:15.440 And then you go back to the Bible and it's 366 00:19:15.480 --> 00:19:17.000 all there right in front of you, laid out. 367 00:19:18.240 --> 00:19:22.359 Yeah, I agree, you know. It was sorry, I'm fine to. 368 00:19:28.519 --> 00:19:31.759 Sorry, I lost my trans thought just with the rabbit 369 00:19:31.799 --> 00:19:34.559 holes all leading back in you know, the Bible explains 370 00:19:34.599 --> 00:19:34.880 them all. 371 00:19:35.759 --> 00:19:38.960 Oh yeah, Actually I have a Bible study podcast, and 372 00:19:40.480 --> 00:19:43.880 I was it's a week by week of the New 373 00:19:44.240 --> 00:19:47.039 We go chapter by chapter through the New Testament, and 374 00:19:47.680 --> 00:19:52.359 both my co hosts and I, you know, our relationship 375 00:19:52.480 --> 00:19:55.039 with Jesus, like basically our love for the Bible, but 376 00:19:55.160 --> 00:19:58.759 also our relationship with Jesus formed when we took a 377 00:19:59.039 --> 00:20:01.440 backwards approach and read the New Testament first. So we're 378 00:20:01.440 --> 00:20:05.359 passionate about specifically the New Testament sharing it. But I 379 00:20:05.680 --> 00:20:09.240 was in the Book of Matthew and I came across 380 00:20:09.359 --> 00:20:12.200 the Parable of the Tenants and I was like that. 381 00:20:13.039 --> 00:20:14.000 It hit me. 382 00:20:14.200 --> 00:20:17.119 I was like, this is this is describing true Earth. 383 00:20:17.160 --> 00:20:21.119 It's describing flat earth. Because the Parable of the Tenants says, 384 00:20:21.319 --> 00:20:24.720 you know, Jesus talks about this man who builds, a 385 00:20:24.839 --> 00:20:28.079 landowner who planted a vineyard and he put a wall 386 00:20:28.400 --> 00:20:31.519 around it, and he dug a wine press in it 387 00:20:31.680 --> 00:20:35.799 and built a watch tower. And the parable goes on 388 00:20:35.920 --> 00:20:39.240 to say that he sent, you know, when the harvest 389 00:20:39.359 --> 00:20:41.759 was ready, he sent servants, but they beat the servants, 390 00:20:41.799 --> 00:20:43.720 they stoned the servants, and then he sent his son. 391 00:20:43.960 --> 00:20:46.519 So it's obviously a parable about God and Jesus. But 392 00:20:46.680 --> 00:20:49.960 as I'm reading it, I'm like, why would Jesus tell 393 00:20:50.079 --> 00:20:54.160 us the geography of the vineyard. You know, it's not 394 00:20:54.440 --> 00:20:57.759 intrismic to like, he wouldn't have needed to tell us 395 00:20:57.799 --> 00:21:01.440 the geography of the vineyard and order to tell the parable. 396 00:21:01.880 --> 00:21:04.599 So there's a reason why he said the geography. And 397 00:21:04.720 --> 00:21:06.680 as I start looking into it, you know, he said 398 00:21:06.720 --> 00:21:09.319 he dug a pit for the wine press, and that 399 00:21:09.519 --> 00:21:11.519 word pit just stood out to me, and I'm like, oh, 400 00:21:11.559 --> 00:21:14.119 it's the you know, pit of hell is what I 401 00:21:14.160 --> 00:21:15.960