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Speaker 6: They could control for partisan effect. There was racially polarized
voting even within the Democratic Party. That's where Section two matters,
where you have a reason to think that a racial
group is being.
Speaker 7: Treated here too, you have proof of that here.
Speaker 6: No, you know, what you have here is that Republicans
and Democrats are different.
Speaker 7: There's no you have some that even white Republicans or
white Democrats won't vote for black candidates.
Speaker 6: Right, But if these were white Democrats, there's no reason
to think they would have.
Speaker 3: A second district.
Speaker 8: None.
Speaker 6: And so what is happening here is their argument is
because these Democrats happen to be black, they get a
second district. If they were all white, we all agree
they wouldn't get a second district. That is literally the
definition of race subordinating traditional principles.
Speaker 3: Ladies and gentlemen. That is It's an excerpt from the
hearing today at the Supreme Court of the United States
on Louisiana Challenge Louisiana's challenge to the Voting Rights Act,
and it appears that Democrats gonna be unhappy the US
Supreme Court. Conservatives appear willing to blunt key Voting Rights
Act provision that is a Reuter's headline from the AP well,
that's a different story, excuse me. From the Washington Post.
Supreme Court seems open to limiting key section of Voting
Rights Act, and there are more. So that's one of
the things that we will discuss today, this challenge to
the voting's Voting Rights Act, and it is based on race.
Race seems to dominate so many of the stories in
our lives. The New York Times did who are the
Louis voters behind the major a major Supreme Court challenge?
They want who are these people that this they're not mentioned,
They're just they're not mentioned by name in the New
York Times wants to make sure that some of their
names are known. Also from the Times, Supreme Court appears
poised on Wednesday to up in the key provision of
the landmark civil rights law by prohibiting lawmakers from using
race as a factor in drawing voting maps, which could
could you're looking at me puzzled, Carlos. I'm still being unclear,
and and I'm glad you are, because a lot of
people don't follow this stuff in detail, because it's just
not you know, this is what what political junkies follow.
So is it clear to you what's going on here?
All right? I'm so happy that you do look puzzled
and you listen, and when things puzzle you, I can tell.
So let me try to explain all this in ways
that could make sense. Back in the old days in America,
when the Democrats ruled the South, the Democrat Party, the
party of slavery, ruled with an iron fist in the South.
They were a bunch of racist sobs. They used to
do all kinds of things to keep black people from voting.
They used to put these what they called a poll tax. So,
in other words, poor black families would then go to
the poles to try to vote black men and women,
and they were told, no, you have to pay a
tax in order to vote. They used to put all
kinds of roadblocks in way. These Democrats, the Democrat Party,
the Southern Democrat Party, and there were many of them.
They used to own the South, like all these Southern
states like Mississippi, Louisiana where this case is from, Alabama.
Alabama's where Democrat George Wallace once stood in the schoolhouse
doah to try to keep young black cheering from going
to school. And he said at the time, segregation, naw segregation,
VAVA and black Democrats. They were in Florida. They ruled Florida,
they ruled North Carolina, South Carolina, Mississippi, Louisiana, Jojia. Less
domatics down there in Jojia. So back in the day
when Democrats, and by the way, this was while they
were still marching around talking about what lovely people they were,
Kennedy and all that, and the Kennedys, and it was
a republic It was a Republican by the name of
Dwight D. Eisenhower, who used to be the big figure
in World War two help us win that war. He
became president after Harry Truman. He became president Ian old
tricky Dick Nixon was his vice president. And Democrats wouldn't
let black children go to school with white kids. So
Republican Dwight D. Eisenhower pulled a Trump move before Trump,
he sent the National Guard over the objections of Arkansas
Democrat governor. He sent the National Guard in there to
protect black children trying to go to school. But while
all this was late nineteen fifties, while all this was
going on, the Democrats still didn't want black people to
vote them, so then President John Kennedy from Massachusett. He
was one of them upstart Democrats from the North. And
them Southern Democrats don't like the Northern Democrats. They're Yankees.
They didn't like the old Kennedy. But Kennedy went down
in the South in Texas and that's when he was killed,
mudded assassinated after that. Nation was nineteen sixty three, was
that year, so Kennedy was assassinated, the nation was grieving.
Lyndon Baines Johnson, his vice president, was from Texas. But
he Lyndon Baines Johnson said, I'm gonna I'm gonna take
up the Kennedy mantle. We're gonna pass some civil rights legislation.
Dak gummet. We're gonna do it despite these Southern Democrats
who hate black people, and that's what they live for,
to hate black peoples. So good old boy Lyndon Johnson
turned on his fellow Southerner, and they thought he was
turning on They were mad at olbj They were mad
you following me so far? Okay, So they were mad
at Lyndon Johnson. Lyndon Johnson said, what deg gummit, We're
gonna pass some civil rights legislation, and we gonna help
black people finally be free from those damn racist Democrats,
which I'm a I'm that's my party, but we're gonna
we're gonna stop this nonsense. They hated LBJ two for that.
So what happened. They came up with two big pieces
of civil rights legislation. One of them is called the
Voting Rights Act of nineteen sixty four. And in the
Voting Rights Act, they said, y'all Democrats have to stop
this stuff. Y'all can't. Y'all can't keep denying black people
the right to vote. And it was a whole bit
you can go readers that complicated bigger, but here's what
it did. It said, from now on, the federal government
got to look at the way y'all do your election
laws in you southern Democrat states that treat black people
so wickedly. And they also established that black people down
there could actually, you know, have districts where with majority
black districts, and they could use race to determine those
districts so that white people Democrats couldn't stop keeping black
people from being elected to office. And that was in
nineteen sixty four. Now this is where it gets complicated.
Some of the stuff in there, like this whole idea
that the federal government could look at the elections. They
didn't put a date when this would in. They just said, okay,
this is what the law is. Now in sixty four,
we're gonna change the way that these Southern Democrats who
hate black people and Democrats been the party of slavery
ever since almost to begin in America. We're gonna stop this.
So they stopped it. Now here's the problem, here's wild
this is important. Now it's been since nineteen sixty four.
That's a lot of years. It's a lot of decades.
Things done changed them. Southern Democrats ain't in power no more.
They do their racism now in the big cities. They
don't do it all down. They don't control this whole South.
Normal Republicans nine in charge. Republicans were still held by
these rules while you got to come to the federal government,
you got to do it. And meanwhile, all these using
race has enabled a lot of seakhs to be just
based on race, and so you got to the whole
almost a lot of those congressional black Caucasian seeks. That's
the CBC well, they call themselves the Congressional Black cau
because we call them the Congressional Black Caucasian, the same
difference anyway, So their seats were a lot of them
determined by these racial parameters that were set up. Now
people in Louisiana and other states are not fed up.
They're like, okay, look, come on, now, these states ain't
the same. We don't chase these Democrats scoundrels out of office.
They're not down here no more suppressing and oppressing black people.
And it's not fair that we have to just carve
out seats, congressional seats around the idea of race. The
government is supposed to be color blind. Everybody's supposed to
have equal justice under the law and equal rights under
the law. We don't need this anymore. We don't chase
them racist democrats out of the South. And in a nutshell,
that's what they're arguing about today the Supreme Court. It's
time to get rid of all this racial stuff, this
holdover from when Democrats was in charge and Democrats was
abusing and being wicked to people. It's time to let
it go. And that's what the argument is at the
Supreme Court. We don't need those regulations anymore, them rules
nineteen sixty four Voting Rights Act. We didn't fix the problem.
The evil Democrats and wicked Democrats been chased out of
office for goodness sake. And so that's what they're arguing
about today's Supreme Court. Does that make sense now? Sure?
Speaker 9: But yeah, yeah, but what.
Speaker 3: Nothing? Nothing? Come on now? If I didn't get if
there's some lack of understanding here, I need to know.
Speaker 6: No.
Speaker 4: But I mean you said that in the beginning, in
order for representation, for specific areas to be more to
represents right, And why, I mean, why stop it?
Speaker 3: Because like why not like expand it? Why stop it
because it's against them? Because we're not We're supposed this,
brit This is a great question. Why stop it? Because
America is not the same anymore. We are not inherently
a nation ruled by wicked Democrats' racial preferences anymore. Ain't
nobody's trying to stop black people from voting no more.
Ain't no segregation no more. Them democrats being run out office.
So all these remedies. The government is supposed to treat
everybody the same. They're not supposed to look at you
and say because you black, we're gonna treat you different.
Because you white, We're gonna treat you different. And so
now we're evolving into a nation that lives up to
our promise that we will treat every single human being
with the respect and dignity that they get from just
being an American system. We're not gonna keep looking and say, oh,
what color you we got to treat you different? What thing?
That's not the way it's supposed to be in America. America,
We're all supposed to have equal justice under the law,
no preferences. Does that make sense? It does? It does.
Speaker 4: But I feel like in the it's gonna come up
again that oh yeah, this person does to represent all
of us, and then you know, like back to the
vicious cycle coming up.
Speaker 3: What person ever has represented all of us? That's the
whole point. Sometimes you win, sometimes you lose. That's life.
I started to go all southern when you say that's
live boy. But I ain't gonna call you no boy
because we ain't getting to that. I ain't no young Republican,
which is a whole nother story, cold another kettle of fish. Anyway,
we have to take a break. I hope it makes
better sense what the argument is, because it does.
Speaker 4: I don't think I don't get why it's such a
huge deal.
Speaker 3: Like I'll tell you why it's a big deal when
we get back. It's a big big big big big
big big big big big big big deal, big big big,
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Speaker 3: You know, Carlos Folks just says something profound to me.
But we decided we're going to wait till after the
break because it's a little bit more involved on what
he thinks the priorities are for this nation. And I
think it's really important that we address that. I just
want to kind of close the loop on it. Princess
Diana answered your question, Carlos, why stop it? She said,
because it's become totally corrupted like everything else Democrats controlled.
And then this is the point. It has become a
way for Democrats to run the inner city and their
racially gerry mander districts as their plantations. And here's what
she means by that. Because this Voting Right Act set
up district by race, it forbid states from changing those
lines if they if that racial component was going to
be diluted. That's what you hear of Democrats say, Oh,
you're trying to dilute black votes, black voting strengths. When
you change the district, you set it up by race,
and that means it's set up forever. That's not the
way elections work. Districts change all the time every based
on population the population, but those because it would set
up by race, nobody could because if did you dare
redraw the voting map and it changes the composition of
those Oh no, no, now you're destroying black You're violating
the Voting Rights Act. It is not an our voting
in America. Nothing should be based laws may that affect
everybody on race of one one particular race. That's not America.
That's not the way this country. That's not even what
the Civil rights movement was for. The dream of the
Civil rights movement was that black people would be able
to be treated equally equally in America, not that any
one racial group would have an advantage equal treatment of
under the law, and it has been corrupted. And that's
what's being challenged at the Supreme Court today. The impact
on democrats is going to be stunning. More than that,
when we get.
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All right, we have to do some things. First of all,
Justice Thomas spoke up today. Now let me just explain
one more thing and I'll get to Carlos. Why is
it so important? I'm gonna get to it in a minute,
But let's hear Clarence Thomas making a point today in
today's session. By the way, Katan's Brown Jackson or she's
being raked over the colds like she always does for
her questions and the court today cut for Justice Clarence
Thomas talking to a little Louisiana solicitor in this case,
what role did Robinson play in the development of SBA
previous previous decisions, Justice Thomas, Robinson is the only reason
sbight exists.
Speaker 7: We fought tooth and nail in the Robinson litigation itself,
in telling the courts that we did not think the
Constitution permitted us to draw a second majority black district.
As you know, under protests, we drew SB eight because
the threat was that the federal courts were going to
do it if we didn't. And that's I mean, I
think that's the best way to conceive of why sbight exists.
We would never pass sbight in the first instance without Robinson,
Justice Thomas.
Speaker 3: Where were the findings in Robinson?
Speaker 7: The finding by the middle district in Robinson was that
plaintiffs in this case were likely to show a violation
of Section two and likely violation. And I'm using very
broad terminology because I do not know what the underlying
violation is. I can't articulate that for you, Justice Thomas,
because I don't think anybody can. But I think the
finding in the district court's mind in that case was
that the likelihood of a Section two violation meant that
a majority black district was required a second one. And
I think like that was the bottom line. And when
our legislature saw that, we understood the marching order. And
that's why you see SPA as it exists today.
Speaker 3: Just briefly, what were the findings that led to that conclusion?
Speaker 7: Well, your honor, running through the preconditions and the totality
of the circumstances. I mean, I think the totality of
the circumstances did most of the work for the Middle
District in Robinson Senate Factor one the Official History of
past discrimination, Justice Thomas. We can never outrun the bad
era of poll taxes, of grandfather clauses, of literacy tests.
I think we're always going to lose across the board
on that kind of analysis. And that's what the Middle
District in Robinson focused on, is how bad was Louisiana
in the nineteen thirties, forties, fifties, sixties. And you know,
add all that together and at the end you have
a vote dilution finding that I don't think is clearly
articulable in the way that SFFA requires a finding of
discrimination to be specified.
Speaker 3: Now, all of that legal too many people, gobbly goog
means this, and we just hit it. All that stuff
that happened in the past, all those literary literacy tests,
the poll taxes, all this other stuff Democrats put in
it's still what's governing the law today, and it's time
to stop it because the Democrat, racist Democrats, wicked Democrats,
have been run out of the Seaule for the most part,
and it's no need for these laws that basically set
up racial districts. And the Court looks at him and says, oh,
we need another racial district That was just what happened
in Louisiana, and it's time to stop this stuff. Now.
Why is it so important? This is going to be
a long cut. It's important because it comes two things
happening at the same time. Two things. One is this
fight over redistricting, which this matters with this Voting Rights
Act business as you know, Texas redistricting, then California redistricted.
Then you had all these blue states, and oh, we're
gonna jump on the bandwagon, We're gonna do redistricting. Two,
let's go to Harry intense in cut six and explaining
what happens with redistricting, and at the end to it,
he talks specifically about what could happen as a result
of this Supreme Court ruling, and that, my friends, will
tell you how important this is.
Speaker 10: Seventeen twenty eighteen right, because that's sort of the baseline
that was, of course the first Trump term. That was
where Democrats are sort of keeping pace. You go back
to April. Look at the generic congressional ballot. You see
you see plus three Democrats in twenty twenty five. In April,
you see plus three Democrats back in April of twenty seventeen.
Now jump over to this side of the screen. What happens, Well,
the Democrats are no longer keeping pace with the pace
that they were setting back in twenty seventeen, twenty eighteen.
You look back in twenty seventeen, you saw that the
Democrats had leaped up to an eight point advantage. I
remember covering this. I remember a lot of folks, including myself, saying,
you know what, Republicans look pretty decent right now in
terms of the fact that they had the House, they
had the sender, they had the presidency. But things were
likely going to flip. And I was looking for the
same science this year. The bottom line is it hasn't happened.
Speaker 3: Capable.
Speaker 10: When it hasn't happened, Democrats have stayed basically study they
have fallen off the pace. Democrats were way out ahead
back in twenty seventeen on the generic congressional ballot, and
now we're basically looking at Democrats ahead. But again they
are so far in back of the pace that they
set back there. And so I think what a lot
of folks are seeing. Folks like myself are saying, wait
a minute, given what we might be seeing and redistricting,
is this plus three going to be in a cape baltwoo?
Speaker 2: That's what I was going to ask.
Speaker 9: One change from that cycle is also this mid decade.
Speaker 8: Redistricting effort that we've been covering so much.
Speaker 11: Add that in and what do you guess?
Speaker 10: Okay, so we add that and we take a look
at the national picture, but then we're of course taking
a look at the state legislators. Right, they are potentially
changing things. And there are two things that are going
on here. First off, mid decade redistricting gains. If both
sides max out at this point, there are more Republican
gains possible than Democratic AIGs. Yes, the Democrats might try
to counter a Texas in a California, but you go
along in the different states and basically Democrats run out
of room where Republicans are able to gain and gain
and gain. If both sides max out, we're probably looking
at a GOP gain of plus seven House seats. That
doesn't even take into account the potential visiting of the
VRA that is right now going to be the fun
of the Supreme Court. If you add that in, you
would be looking yes, exactly right, the Voting Rights ac
if you add that, and then you could be looking
about adding ten, twelve, fifteen, seventeen on top of this
seven seats. So I think a lot of folks like
myself were looking at this, we're seeing, Hey, wait a minute,
those national polls are Democrats are not gaining the way
that we expected.
Speaker 3: Folks. This voting rights thing, the way Democrats have been
using the Voters Rights Acts to stack up districts that
can be touched is challenged. And you just heard Harry
Ins and CNN just basically say, wait a minute. If
the court rules on this, and we've already got this
redistricting stuff, Republicans will already set to gain seven seats,
seven seats potentially if redistricting, if all this stuff works
the way people think it might, then if this Voting
Rights Act clause is struck down and states can write
districts the way they should without regard to race, the
Republicans might be able through redistricting to pick up an
additional up to seventeen seats. That would mean, on top
of the majority that you have now, Republicans would hold
about a twenty six twenty seven seat advantage in Congress.
In the House. You put that with the presidency, and
Democrats would be wiped out. That's what it means, and
that's why they're fighting this stuff tooth and nails. Now, Carlos,
before the other break, you said to me that you
think the priorities should be what right now? Not all
this stuff? What is the more important to you?
Speaker 9: I thought the priorities should be having the city safe,
because if people were afraid to you know, walk on
the street and everything, that shouldn't be a fear that
you should have on a day to day basis.
Speaker 3: So the safety of this city should come before they safe.
Speaker 4: You other cities and the people, instead of like looking
into making the you know, the seat is bigger or
your your interests would align, you know, Okay, later.
Speaker 3: On, let me say to you that's exactly how this
what this fight is all about, though, Carlos. The cities
are unsafe because the same political parties. You look at
You're in New York, Carls, you are in New York.
The Democrats have run New York effectively for almost two centuries.
You look at look at Chicago since mayor daily, since
all the Democrats have run Chicago. You look at these
other blue cities where they are protected by you can't redistrict,
You can't do anything because you have these minority populations.
Look at Memphis, Look at Dallas, Look at Houston, Look
at La Look at Philadelphia, Look at Trenton, New Jersey.
Look at Canon, New Jersey, Look at Patterson, New Jersey.
Look at you go through, Look at Canvas City, Look
everywhere Democrats populate. They have used this voting Right Act
to make sure nobody can touch them. And what is
happening now is all that is being now. The Democrats
are still gonna win. New York's a blue sitting, no
matter what, It's still gonna be blue. But Democrats have
come to believe that they own majority black owned districts.
Nobody can do anything. And that's what this whole voting
rights game is. And what have they done with that power?
They have made every single one of those cities where
they run unsafe for people to live every You're right,
the safety should come first, but it doesn't. It doesn't.
And this is what is happening, and this is why
this is so dangerous. Now, you give me a great opening. Twelve.
This is a black guy who lives in one of
those cities you're talking about that Democrats have been running
because institutionally they own it because of this Voting Rights
Act and other legislation. Listen to what he has to say.
Speaker 11: It's been real quiet in Memphis.
Speaker 12: As a matter of fact, I haven't seen so many
black people appreciating President Trump out of a place like
that ever, to be honest. And these people are going
out in the streets and they're letting their kids play
in the front yards and they're enjoying this, this type
of piece that they haven't had in a very long time.
You see, they've had a very very big issue with crime.
And since national guards come. You have parents that are
saying that they haven't been able to let their kids
play in front of the house like this for years,
Like they almost don't even know what that's like, you know,
And so they're taking to social media because they were
grateful that their children a safe and they feel safe
and that they can go and they can walk up
and down the street.
Speaker 11: You imagine not being able.
Speaker 12: To go for a walk outside on the street because
you're worried about gang violence or you're worried that you
might get robbed. You imagine that these people haven't experienced
that in the years, and now they're able to go
out there and enjoy their neighborhoods. This hasn't happened for
so long, and it's a good thing. Obviously, there's going
to be one side the opposition who is very upset
because these individuals are not slaying each other.
Speaker 11: And I hate to say that, but it's factually true.
Speaker 12: They are complaining right now because these individuals are experiencing peace.
Speaker 3: That is profound. And that's why this is so important, Carlos.
It's time to change this. The people that are suffering
the most are the people that these people that Democrats
claim to represent, and they've been suffering. Nobody's picked up
call to now. I just want to say a word
or two before we get out of here today, because
we gotta take a break about this story I started
with yesterday, this young Republican stuff. I got a lot
more to say about this. I will say I am
very disappointed in jd Vance. I am extremely disappointed in J.
D Vance and his remarks. Oh, James, I'm not I know,
I'm not supposed to say that. We just all no,
I'm disappointed. His response to all of this was to
go out and say, oh, well, you know what Jay
Johnson said. What Ja Johnson Downald Virginia said was worse.
What j Johnson said in Virginia is terrible, and he
needs to never run for office. And you're right, for
goodness sakes, jd Vance. Your wife is a woman of color.
She happens to be Indian. And some of these vile
remarks made by these people were against people like your wife,
against people like me, against people that have supported this
party through hell and high water. And you can't find
it in yourself to denounce these cretans in the Republican
Party that need to be driven out of this party forever.
Just very disappointed. These people are horrific, These young Republicans
we talked about yesterday, they need to be run out
of this party in disgrace. And it means to be
made clear, this is never acceptable. The days of calling
people black people, monkeys, and all the rest of us
let alone. I cannot believe that any Republican would ever
open up his mouth of conservative and praise Adolf Hitler
and talk about gas chambers in the ways that these people.
What the hell have these people been thinking? And they
need to be denounced from every quarter of decent American society.
I don't care what political party people belong to. I
don't care what the damn outcome is on an election.
This vile, ugly, freaking behavior in this country needs to stop.
I don't care whether it's Republicans saying it, Democrats sang it,
whoever sang it. This kind of evil hatred in the
political parties needs to stop and find you have the
guts to take on everybody else on take on these people.
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Speaker 3: We didn't even get to the shutdown stuff. Judge temporarily
Trump from firing workers during this shut down. Another one
of these district judges. Democrats threatened to see Trump in
court over firings. Democrats are objecting to US paying Donald
Trump arranging for the troops to be paid out in California.
What they do They declared a state of emergency over
immigrant over deportations, and that has all kind of legal implications.
We'll get to that tomorrow. I hope Robert Ward was
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nineteen forty six. Okay, so much, we didn't get too
so much. I want to get to God willing, We're
here tomorrow to get to some more of it. And
I am not this whole young Republican story. I ain't
done with this. These people need to be driven out
of the party and it may clear tures in that
people like them are never welcomed ever, But in the
meantime we got to go. May God bless protect each
and every single one of you, your families, your loved ones.
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